Comments on: Cost-benefit analysis and the NBN http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/ Australia's leading libertarian and centre-right blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:47:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: JX http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11976 JX Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:59:14 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11976 Tanner and the rest of them were unapologetic and actually defended that position as totally justified: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/industry-sectors/lindsay-tanners-75pc-off-broadband/story-e6frg9hx-1225777233789 Mr Tanner said the project could not be subject to a normal cost-benefit analysis because of the "long-term unknowables" of emerging technologies. "long-term unknowables" - WTF?? In the 'real world' of business talk like that let alone making it implemented policy would see you fired on the spot and made the butt of office humour at the water cooler and every xmas party for the life of the company... these people are living in a collective hallucination. Tanner and the rest of them were unapologetic and actually defended that position as totally justified:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/industry-sectors/lindsay-tanners-75pc-off-broadband/story-e6frg9hx-1225777233789

Mr Tanner said the project could not be subject to a normal cost-benefit analysis because of the “long-term unknowables” of emerging technologies.

“long-term unknowables” – WTF??

In the ‘real world’ of business talk like that let alone making it implemented policy would see you fired on the spot and made the butt of office humour at the water cooler and every xmas party for the life of the company… these people are living in a collective hallucination.

]]> By: Semi Regular Libertarian http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11907 Semi Regular Libertarian Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:42:33 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11907 http://www.nbnco.com.au/ http://www.nbnco.com.au/

]]> By: Keith http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11718 Keith Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:07:19 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11718 And exactly where is Henry's much touted tax review ? I guess that is so last year. On Lateline Jones repeatedly asked Wong for the modelling of the CPRS beyond 2013. Wong in effect refused. The buried bodies are starting to smell. And exactly where is Henry’s much touted tax review ?
I guess that is so last year.

On Lateline Jones repeatedly asked Wong for the modelling of the CPRS beyond 2013. Wong in effect refused.

The buried bodies are starting to smell.

]]> By: Keith http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11714 Keith Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:03:34 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11714 There doesn't even seem to be a business plan (where a cost/benefit might normally reside) for the NBN. Yesterday, Rudd blithely dismissed the $17m or $30m cost of the tender process that failed to find a winner. This money is going down the sewer. And how much is the government's debt now ? There doesn’t even seem to be a business plan (where a cost/benefit might normally reside) for the NBN.
Yesterday, Rudd blithely dismissed the $17m or $30m cost of the tender process that failed to find a winner. This money is going down the sewer.
And how much is the government’s debt now ?

]]> By: dover_beach http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11561 dover_beach Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:31:16 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11561 Well, I haven't had lunch yet. Well, I haven’t had lunch yet.

]]> By: Sinclair Davidson http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11556 Sinclair Davidson Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:25:51 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11556 Dover - that's a bit rough. Dover – that’s a bit rough.

]]> By: ken nielsen http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11551 ken nielsen Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:16:40 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11551 http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/conroy-and-his-duel-with-the-bureaucrats/story-e6frg6nf-1225826896757 This story, obviously planted by or for Conroy claims the cockup of the first tender process for the NBN (the one that cost us $13 million) was all the fault of the public service. Can anyone think of a reason why he sholud not resign? http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/conroy-and-his-duel-with-the-bureaucrats/story-e6frg6nf-1225826896757

This story, obviously planted by or for Conroy claims the cockup of the first tender process for the NBN (the one that cost us $13 million) was all the fault of the public service.

Can anyone think of a reason why he sholud not resign?

]]> By: dover_beach http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11535 dover_beach Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:55:32 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11535 No, no, rather than fire Henry it would be more appropriate to take him 'fishing' on Lake Burley Griffin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUuHsBqYoRk&feature=related No, no, rather than fire Henry it would be more appropriate to take him ‘fishing’ on Lake Burley Griffin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUuHsBqYoRk&feature=related

]]> By: Pedro X http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11532 Pedro X Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:52:13 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11532 Isn't it an Australian tradition to stuff up communication? Does anyone have information on how the Telstra and the government negotiations are going? Isn't it quite possibly that the NBN will be quietly retired and a cheaper scheme closer to the original plan for a 10Bn plan that the ALP started off with before they decided to go wild on 'nation bankrupting/building'? Isn’t it an Australian tradition to stuff up communication?

Does anyone have information on how the Telstra and the government negotiations are going?

Isn’t it quite possibly that the NBN will be quietly retired and a cheaper scheme closer to the original plan for a 10Bn plan that the ALP started off with before they decided to go wild on ‘nation bankrupting/building’?

]]> By: JC http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/05/cost-benefit-analysis-and-the-nbn/comment-page-1/#comment-11519 JC Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:39:07 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=7927#comment-11519 Still Ken Henry remains quiet on the cost benefit of the NBN? Yet when the Howard government tried a water plan Henry had a top secret meeting with 300 of his work colleagues to criticize the government for not running through Treasury and then was shocked, shocked it got out in to the media. If the libs win this coming election (unlikely of course) their first act after Rudd's concession speech would be to publicly fire Henry and request that he doesn't even go to the office the following work day. Still Ken Henry remains quiet on the cost benefit of the NBN?

Yet when the Howard government tried a water plan Henry had a top secret meeting with 300 of his work colleagues to criticize the government for not running through Treasury and then was shocked, shocked it got out in to the media.

If the libs win this coming election (unlikely of course) their first act after Rudd’s concession speech would be to publicly fire Henry and request that he doesn’t even go to the office the following work day.

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