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What did Rudd know, when did he know it?

KEVIN Rudd says he was alerted to potential safety problems with the government’s home insulation program as early as August 2009 and will be subjected to Opposition questioning on the matter next week.

The Prime Minister was forced to give a detailed run down of his knowledge of problems with the scheme in parliament today, conceding he received notification about compliance issues on August 14 last year.

The Australian

Written by Sinclair Davidson

March 11th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

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So he knew since August and he did nothing. Meanwhile he led a delegation of 135 to the Copenhagen Climate Haj.

It’s clear he isn’t fit to be PM. He ought to just go quietly and be done with it.

JC

11 Mar 10 at 10:04 pm
err Sinkers and the Catallaxy crackpots shoudld read the reprots. It was Howard and Billy Sneddan who , is to blame foe not spending on infrastructure and not signing the Kylie Protocol. No smoking gun. Oops.

/Homer, tomorrow.

C.L.

11 Mar 10 at 11:23 pm
Oh Lord. Rudd’s “solution” to dangerous houses has now been declared dangerous.

Safety switch no fix, electricians warn.

C.L.

12 Mar 10 at 12:38 am
CL the PM has changed the batteries in his remotes, he knows electrickery

tal

12 Mar 10 at 12:47 am
Seriously, this dweeb can’t tie his shoe laces together.

I’m not kidding, it’s going to get to the stage where the voters panic every time he announces some new policy or threatens to role up his sleeves and work harder (we can’t afford to have him work harder).

JC

12 Mar 10 at 12:51 am
Imagine what will happen to the hospitals when he takes over, you’ll go in for a headache and end up on life support

tal

12 Mar 10 at 12:56 am
The insulation scheme has now eclipsed the cane toad for bad ideas. We’ll be undoing this mess for decades.

Infidel Tiger

12 Mar 10 at 12:59 am
Yes, he is starting to scare me. I am normally pro-nuclear energy, but if Rudd is the guy who brings it in I fear the entire country will have to be made a quarantine zone. We’ll have a “Chernobyl” incident every other month under this joker. He’s the reverse Midas Touch PM – everything turns to shit.

Michael Fisk

12 Mar 10 at 1:20 am
By the way, I wonder if any Keynesian economists are going to claim that the cost of cleaning up Rudd’s mess, e.g. unwiring the live foil insulation, will itself be a “stimulus” to the economy. It’s the logical extension of their basic argument that building useless shit stimulates the economy. Paying people to knock it down must also be stimulatory. And if not, why not?

Michael Fisk

12 Mar 10 at 1:27 am
Indeed Fisk, you will recall that the prescription was not just to dig holes, but to fill them back up!

It will be interesting to see where this story leads. Perhaps KRudd will say he’s already apologised and we should now move on.

pedro

12 Mar 10 at 7:43 am
“So he knew since August and he did nothing.”
The linked article itself notes that he was notified on August 14 and changes were approved in Cabinet on August 17.

“These included physical on-site inspections prior to quotes, increased scrutiny of trainer qualifications and processes for suspending and deregistering non-compliant installers.”

Not enough was done but not enough is not nothing.

badm0f0

12 Mar 10 at 8:49 am
errr Sinkers
odd tjat yoU snd Snoopy think cavity emperor shouldnt’ apple to insulatopm but endorse free markets!!!

whoopsd catallaxian crackpots not known for their consistency again.

golly gee what would madam smith have thunk!

///end Homer channel

jtfsoon

12 Mar 10 at 8:55 am
What are you suggesting ?

all installations are banned?

It is the responsibility of the companies involved to have the appropriate safety standards.

The standards that were called for were higher than those previously used.

Actually we now know this produced much less fires in the industry.

If you wish to ban industries because of loss of life then no-one would be mining coal.

Butterfield, Bloomfield & Bishop

12 Mar 10 at 9:48 am
“What are you suggesting ?
all installations are banned?”

Simply refraining from massively subsidising known dangerous activities would suffice.

Greego

12 Mar 10 at 10:50 am
so you are for banning all mining activities.

They are of course much more dangerous than the installation of homes.

nice to know that.

Butterfield, Bloomfield & Bishop

12 Mar 10 at 10:57 am
Banning subsidies, yes. Banning mining, no. Ignoring the shit economics of it, artificially sending demand through the roof for a known risky industry is clearly irresponsible and the idiots deserve all the political backlash they’ve copped.

Greego

12 Mar 10 at 11:11 am
Another house has burned down:

Insulation fault suspected in latest house fire.

Thanks, Kev.

C.L.

12 Mar 10 at 11:38 am
School building program now considered a disaster.

MORE than half of the state’s schools are unhappy with their new halls, libraries or classrooms built under the Federal Government’s $14 billion education revolution.
Concerns include inferior work, waste and worries schools were being ripped off.

A snap survey of 200 schools statewide shows 117 believe the construction projects are not providing value for money or have been delayed, seriously disrupting classes and students’ activities.

Hot water system program now considered a disaster.

THE Federal Government was in more hot water as a caravan park owner revealed he had received free hot water systems worth at least $270,000.
The Herald Sun has learned the taxpayer-financed hot water systems went not only to sporting clubs. Caravan parks, motels and dairies said they’d also been swamped with units they didn’t need.

This is easily the most incompetent government in the post-war period, no question.

C.L.

12 Mar 10 at 11:45 am
Hey Homer, as the resident neo-nazi Keynesian economist can you please answer what Fisk was asking.

That was, is the clean up of this insulation policy shambles also stimulatory too?

JC

12 Mar 10 at 11:46 am
errr Credit Crunch Forrest

if you could read i would ask you to read the General Theory and Ritchl but a hoarse cannot be lead to water. simulsatin is to be used when monet policy is impotent only.

gi bacjk to ESL forest

/// end homer channeling

jtfsoon

12 Mar 10 at 11:51 am
Shit, I thought that really was homer…… on a good day.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 11:54 am
err Statman forgets Leyland Brothers happpened beforee the credit crunch under HOward.

C.L.

12 Mar 10 at 11:54 am
er Greego banning subsidies will not stop fires in houses via insulation indeed if history is any guide there will be many more with a lot less demand but good to see you are on the ball

Butterfield, Bloomfield & Bishop

12 Mar 10 at 11:56 am
Jeez Louise:

Insulation, school, and water systems. There isn’t a freaking policy these numb-nuts haven’t screwed up.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 11:57 am
Fisk is right. Even if you support nukes, let’s wait till these dudes are out of office.

C.L.

12 Mar 10 at 11:59 am
writing like Homer is really fun

we should have a ‘write like Homer for a day’ just like the ‘talk like a pirate for a day’

jtfsoon

12 Mar 10 at 11:59 am
indeed if history is any guide there will be many more with a lot less demand but good to see you are on the ball

lol

You really a innumerate debbie. Go away.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 11:59 am
In our new flexible economy worker can easily be diverted from breaking windows, to digging holes, to removing insulation at the stroke of a pen.

Infidel Tiger

12 Mar 10 at 12:02 pm
no Credit Crunch Forrest. Possum has supplied the numbers, such a pity you are too stupid to understand them.
Perhaps Statman will go to an Eastern suburbs dinner party and someone will make a joke about them.Now that would be evidence!

Butterfield, Bloomfield & Bishop

12 Mar 10 at 12:03 pm
Fisk is right. Even if you support nukes, let’s wait till these dudes are out of office.

It’s true. I’m anti-ALP nuke. These dodo heads could end up making the entire continent uninhabitable given a chance.

We’d be the boat people in reverse as the entire population takes boats to Indonesia with a pit stop at Christmas Island.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 12:04 pm
Rudd would simply move insulation installers into new careers.

C.L.

12 Mar 10 at 12:07 pm
Homer

You nimrod. Possum is a bigger numbskull than you are. His/her fact finding infers that the more botched insulation jobs the less fires.

Here, dick for brains:

There were 67,500 homes being insulated before Lurchgate. Lurch says they insulated 1,100,000 homes under the Lurchgate insulation policy..

There were around 90 odd fires before Lurchgate and around the same during the Lurchgate fiasco.

That numbnut possum is suggesting that Lurchgate has caused less fires by atound times the previous amount.

90/67,000

90/1,100,000

There are only two people in the world that would believe that. That’s you and Possum.

You innumerate nimbus, homer.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 12:11 pm
Oops should….
That numbnut possum is suggesting Lurchgate has caused less fires by around 20 times the previous count.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 12:13 pm
Every house burned down reduces future fire risk. I believe this is one of Keynes central points.

Infidel Tiger

12 Mar 10 at 12:20 pm
hahahahahahahah

That’s right, Infidel. It’s the Lurchgate Keynesian multiplier at work. The more houses burn down the less fires in the future.

Soon enough Rudd, Swandive and Tanner will be using that excuse to justify the fuckup.

On a serious note there was a house that burned down near where my parents live as a result of this fiasco.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 12:24 pm
ah yes Credit crunch Forrest showing his wonderful statistical prowess but actually cannot show how the sums are wrong.

This is just another example of his wonderful claims you know the government doesn’t use accrual accounting, doesn’t have any assets.

Yawn.
This is why he lives in a dreamworld

Butterfield, Bloomfield & Bishop

12 Mar 10 at 12:39 pm
Prove it wrong, you offensive dunce. If you can’t then stfu.

Here’s your chance to shine.

JC

12 Mar 10 at 12:41 pm
“ah yes Credit crunch Forrest showing his wonderful statistical prowess but actually cannot show how the sums are wrong.”

The marginal effect was there was more fires than there would have been without the insulation.

Marginal effects are what matter to economists Homer. You may or may not be aware of this.

Semi Regular Libertarian

12 Mar 10 at 12:42 pm
The the hell is “Credit Crunch Forrest” suppost to mean?

Michael Fisk

12 Mar 10 at 2:36 pm
I honestly can’t believe that Homer is here defending a fuck up that Krudd and Combet freely admit is appalling.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Pedro

12 Mar 10 at 6:12 pm
I wonder if Kevvie knew that this scheme would go fubar and let it happen to roll Lurch. Lurch is Latrham’s creature. Kevvie probably wishes he had a designer bespectacled technocratic robot in that chair so he sets Lurch up.
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Lurch has been busy proving he’s a ‘professional’. He does this by kicking the Greens in the head in the last Vic State Election and fucking the environment for the ALP’s mates every chance he gets. Now he wants to establish credibility. So along comes Kevvie’s Keynsian Spend-A-Thon and Lurch gets the brilliant idea to tie in the Bribe The Blue Collar Voters programme with the Latte Dreaming.
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Trouble is Lurch never had a real job and has no idea. He sets up a bullshit scheme and it goes fubar and now he cops it sweet. being the Minister for Dog Poo Collection Services. When the election rolls around this will be ancient history, Kevvie will get up again and afterwards he’ll quietly sneak into the kitchen and gather some knives to stick in Lurch’s back.
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Wonder if Lurch’ll feel it much. Will he start ringing Bob Brown for clandestine dinners? A Cheryl Kernot in reverse?

Adrien

13 Mar 10 at 12:23 pm
I’m surprised Kev gives Homer time off to write on blogs

Samuel J

13 Mar 10 at 12:39 pm
I think that’s Homer’s job.
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Poor old Homer. Ye gotta admit he’s basically a good guy considering the shit he takes and just keeps coming back for.

Adrien

13 Mar 10 at 12:46 pm
No he’s not. He’s a passive aggressive offensive Bouchebag. He’s not a good guy. He never apologizes and continually lies ans dissembles.

And he’s as annoying and as irritating as all hell.

JC

13 Mar 10 at 1:05 pm
And he’s as annoying and as irritating as all hell.

.
But you love it. You get to use all those insults you learned in America.

Adrien

13 Mar 10 at 4:04 pm

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