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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22796</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 05:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Their idea of an implementation plan is to call a meet, sing kum-ba-ya and hope for the best.&lt;/i&gt;
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Well sounds more productive than most meetings. At least they get something done. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Their idea of an implementation plan is to call a meet, sing kum-ba-ya and hope for the best.</i><br />
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Well sounds more productive than most meetings. At least they get something done. <img src='http://catallaxyfiles.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: boy on a bike</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22792</link>
		<dc:creator>boy on a bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bumped into a bloke who worked for that dept for a while.

He said that it was stuffed to the gills with Wong&#039;s mates. The key criteria for employment is that they heartily approved with Wong&#039;s agenda. There are no &quot;hard heads&quot; there with experience in actually doing anything, apart from marching down the street with papier machet puppet heads and banging drums. No wonder everything they touch turns to poo. Their idea of an implementation plan is to call a meet, sing kum-ba-ya and hope for the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bumped into a bloke who worked for that dept for a while.</p>
<p>He said that it was stuffed to the gills with Wong&#8217;s mates. The key criteria for employment is that they heartily approved with Wong&#8217;s agenda. There are no &#8220;hard heads&#8221; there with experience in actually doing anything, apart from marching down the street with papier machet puppet heads and banging drums. No wonder everything they touch turns to poo. Their idea of an implementation plan is to call a meet, sing kum-ba-ya and hope for the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Mole</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22786</link>
		<dc:creator>Mole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name is just the shorter version of my usual blogname thefrollickingmole, I cant claim any inside knowlegde.
No idea, you have a large bucket of cash available to any department which can stick the word &quot;climate&quot; in one of their power point presentations. Where theres lots of money and poor accountability you are sure to attract sharks.


Id suggest decimation of the population od Canberra, to be carried out every 5 years, that might slow this sort of thing down</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name is just the shorter version of my usual blogname thefrollickingmole, I cant claim any inside knowlegde.<br />
No idea, you have a large bucket of cash available to any department which can stick the word &#8220;climate&#8221; in one of their power point presentations. Where theres lots of money and poor accountability you are sure to attract sharks.</p>
<p>Id suggest decimation of the population od Canberra, to be carried out every 5 years, that might slow this sort of thing down</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mole:

How does one effectively stop this monster from rising from the swamp?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mole:</p>
<p>How does one effectively stop this monster from rising from the swamp?</p>
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		<title>By: daddy dave</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22780</link>
		<dc:creator>daddy dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting info, mole. Interesting choice of name for yourself, too. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;90% of the inititives mentioned dont have costs attached. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
The mind boggles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting info, mole. Interesting choice of name for yourself, too. </p>
<blockquote><p>90% of the inititives mentioned dont have costs attached. </p></blockquote>
<p>The mind boggles.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrddin Seren</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22779</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrddin Seren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just depressing.

Hundreds and thousands of apparatchiks at federal and state level;

recycling billions of taxpayer dollars, clipping the ticket on the way through ( transaction costs );

to remake society and the economy without ever testing it at the ballot box;

all of whom can be expected to vote faithfully for the party whose policy this all is until hell freezes over.

And even if a new mini or full blown-ice age did set in - they would probably relentlessly chant the AGW &#039;climate chaos&#039; mantra and seek more programmatic specificities until the glaciers were sliding over Lake Burley Griffin.


It&#039;s the 51% solution of Julia - get enough registered voters directly on the big government payroll or the welfare rolls, and eventually your mandate becomes permanent, as most of them will never be foolish enough to sacrifice their direct interests by voting to lift the ever-growing tax burden they assume is carried by someone else.

Barring a deep existential crisis, I struggle to see how this trend can be reversed as long as populist, self-interest carries the day at election time ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just depressing.</p>
<p>Hundreds and thousands of apparatchiks at federal and state level;</p>
<p>recycling billions of taxpayer dollars, clipping the ticket on the way through ( transaction costs );</p>
<p>to remake society and the economy without ever testing it at the ballot box;</p>
<p>all of whom can be expected to vote faithfully for the party whose policy this all is until hell freezes over.</p>
<p>And even if a new mini or full blown-ice age did set in &#8211; they would probably relentlessly chant the AGW &#8216;climate chaos&#8217; mantra and seek more programmatic specificities until the glaciers were sliding over Lake Burley Griffin.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the 51% solution of Julia &#8211; get enough registered voters directly on the big government payroll or the welfare rolls, and eventually your mandate becomes permanent, as most of them will never be foolish enough to sacrifice their direct interests by voting to lift the ever-growing tax burden they assume is carried by someone else.</p>
<p>Barring a deep existential crisis, I struggle to see how this trend can be reversed as long as populist, self-interest carries the day at election time ?</p>
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		<title>By: Mole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so people are looking at the brand named &quot;department of climate change&quot;.

Anyone want to add the Billions being used by the over 100 initatives listed on their website?
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/government/initiatives.aspx

Some refer to allready existing mobs like The Bureau of Meteorology, but heres a sample of some of the others.

Australian Carbon Trust
Australian Climate Change Regulatory Authority
Australian Greenhouse Emissions Information System - AGEIS
Australian National Registry of Emissions Units
Australian Climate Change Science Program
Australian Centre for Renewable Energy

Thats just some of the &quot;a&quot; section, now for some detailed ones.

Climate Change Action Fund
The Government has established the $1.97 billion Climate Change Action Fund to provide targeted assistance to business, community sector organisations, workers, regions and communities, helping to smooth the transition to a low-pollution economy. Whole of government initiative. 

Solar Hot Water Rebate Program
Provides a rebate of $1,600 to help eligible home-owners, landlords or tenants replace their inefficient electric storage hot water systems with solar or heat pump hot water systems. Administered by the Department of the Environment, Water, Heritage and the Arts. 

Teaching and Learning Capital Fund (TLCF)
The TLCF (VET) will provide $500 million during the 2009-10 financial year which will be distributed through initiatives focused on modernizing and improving the quality of teaching and learning across the vocational education and training sector. There is an emphasis on funding projects that support the national training system to address industry’s emerging green skills requirements. Please note that funding rounds have closed. Administered by the Department of Employment, Education and Workplace Relations. 

Low Emission Assistance Plan for Renters
Provides assistance of up to $1,000 to install ceiling insulation in existing rental properties and other properties. Administered by the Department of the Environment, Water, Heritage and the Arts. 


Never mind the headline figures, 90% of the inititives mentioned dont have costs attached. The monumental power grab by the climate change wonks is affecting a lot more government business than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so people are looking at the brand named &#8220;department of climate change&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyone want to add the Billions being used by the over 100 initatives listed on their website?<br />
<a href="http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/government/initiatives.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/government/initiatives.aspx</a></p>
<p>Some refer to allready existing mobs like The Bureau of Meteorology, but heres a sample of some of the others.</p>
<p>Australian Carbon Trust<br />
Australian Climate Change Regulatory Authority<br />
Australian Greenhouse Emissions Information System &#8211; AGEIS<br />
Australian National Registry of Emissions Units<br />
Australian Climate Change Science Program<br />
Australian Centre for Renewable Energy</p>
<p>Thats just some of the &#8220;a&#8221; section, now for some detailed ones.</p>
<p>Climate Change Action Fund<br />
The Government has established the $1.97 billion Climate Change Action Fund to provide targeted assistance to business, community sector organisations, workers, regions and communities, helping to smooth the transition to a low-pollution economy. Whole of government initiative. </p>
<p>Solar Hot Water Rebate Program<br />
Provides a rebate of $1,600 to help eligible home-owners, landlords or tenants replace their inefficient electric storage hot water systems with solar or heat pump hot water systems. Administered by the Department of the Environment, Water, Heritage and the Arts. </p>
<p>Teaching and Learning Capital Fund (TLCF)<br />
The TLCF (VET) will provide $500 million during the 2009-10 financial year which will be distributed through initiatives focused on modernizing and improving the quality of teaching and learning across the vocational education and training sector. There is an emphasis on funding projects that support the national training system to address industry’s emerging green skills requirements. Please note that funding rounds have closed. Administered by the Department of Employment, Education and Workplace Relations. </p>
<p>Low Emission Assistance Plan for Renters<br />
Provides assistance of up to $1,000 to install ceiling insulation in existing rental properties and other properties. Administered by the Department of the Environment, Water, Heritage and the Arts. </p>
<p>Never mind the headline figures, 90% of the inititives mentioned dont have costs attached. The monumental power grab by the climate change wonks is affecting a lot more government business than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: C.L.</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22748</link>
		<dc:creator>C.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudd&#039;s comical Department of &quot;Climate Change&quot; is in the news elsewhere.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/climate-hq-flunks-green-star-test-20100312-q45z.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Climate HQ flunks green star test&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The federal government&#039;s Department of Climate Change may be at the cutting edge of environmental policy development [LOL] but it is well behind when it comes to its own effect on the environment.

The department has told a parliamentary committee that its Canberra headquarters achieved only a 2½-star rating on the five-star National Australian Built Environment Rating System and did not comply with the government&#039;s policy on energy efficiency in its own operations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s OK, though, because they&#039;re &quot;seeking approval to spend $20.5 million fitting out a new building.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudd&#8217;s comical Department of &#8220;Climate Change&#8221; is in the news elsewhere.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/climate-hq-flunks-green-star-test-20100312-q45z.html" rel="nofollow">Climate HQ flunks green star test</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The federal government&#8217;s Department of Climate Change may be at the cutting edge of environmental policy development [LOL] but it is well behind when it comes to its own effect on the environment.</p>
<p>The department has told a parliamentary committee that its Canberra headquarters achieved only a 2½-star rating on the five-star National Australian Built Environment Rating System and did not comply with the government&#8217;s policy on energy efficiency in its own operations.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s OK, though, because they&#8217;re &#8220;seeking approval to spend $20.5 million fitting out a new building.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22747</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Vince. Close that crap down and run it out of the science and Treasury department by increasing work load of those dudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Vince. Close that crap down and run it out of the science and Treasury department by increasing work load of those dudes.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/03/13/i-know-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-22746</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>700 staff? Direct and indirect costs would amount to over $100 million a year.

Fme, the taxpayer gets looted. It&#039;s  Just wrong.

We just get hosed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>700 staff? Direct and indirect costs would amount to over $100 million a year.</p>
<p>Fme, the taxpayer gets looted. It&#8217;s  Just wrong.</p>
<p>We just get hosed.</p>
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