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Rudd’s downfall

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It’s good to see one of these again. If you worry about worksafe issues then don’t click on the link.

Update: Via Bolt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PE_vr0t3FA&feature=player_embedded

Written by Sinclair Davidson

June 24th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

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That was great! I think I liked the Chinese submarine line best.

steve from brisbane

24 Jun 10 at 10:33 pm
They’ve obviously dealt with Plibersek before. Very accurate.

Infidel Tiger

24 Jun 10 at 10:37 pm
Brilliant.

Dandy Warhol

24 Jun 10 at 10:44 pm
Argh… I thought these were over!

I’m tired of these… though it did have some funny lines.

Fleeced

24 Jun 10 at 11:24 pm
Surely the events over the past 24 years prove one thing. Semi-educated, life-ignorant self-described “left-wing” university tutor type bloggers need to get off the net. They are completely clueless commentators on Australian politics, and anything to do with Australia. Full Stop.

I’m sorry, but this dolt’s latest has just tipped me over the edge. What a dork!

I think it’s extremely depressing, and very bad for our democracy, that mining company and media interests can effectively bring down an elected PM. This is up there with The Dismissal.

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/06/24/my-piece-at-the-drum-on-the-political-execution-of-kevin-rudd/#comment-893419

Peter Patton

24 Jun 10 at 11:34 pm
Why should he get off the net. The more stupid and dumb things he says the more entertainment.

JC

24 Jun 10 at 11:36 pm
You got me there!

But what a ….oh, I just can’t say it,….

Peter Patton

24 Jun 10 at 11:37 pm
That’s what I call invigorating idiocy. He’s an invigorating dope, that’s all

JC

24 Jun 10 at 11:39 pm
The gift just keeps on giving.

Gillard – bastard child of Sir John Kerr.

Peter Patton

24 Jun 10 at 11:39 pm
Maintain the rage!!!11

Fleeced

24 Jun 10 at 11:42 pm
Because Nothing Will Save Julia Gillard!

Peter Patton

24 Jun 10 at 11:43 pm
This news will cheer Gough up

tal

24 Jun 10 at 11:45 pm
tal

I think he’s too busy maintaining his age these days.

Peter Patton

24 Jun 10 at 11:48 pm
The only thing preventing me from enjoying this as much as I would like is the fear that Labor will now survive… I take consolation in the fact that the new administration can’t be any worse than Rudd (even if they were of the “inner circle” of the Rudd government)

Fleeced

24 Jun 10 at 11:49 pm
PP

tal

24 Jun 10 at 11:49 pm
Fleeced enjoy it darl, today didn’t cost us a cent

tal

24 Jun 10 at 11:50 pm
Fleeced

The thing I caught today was the improvement of Abbott in various ways. He seems to be talking better and much more focused.

His performance along with the other libs was 1st class in parliament and to be honest i thought Gillard’s own performance in parliament was pretty so so.

Abbott was really very direct and very focused.

This is not going to be a shoe for Labor. they may well win but it’s going down to the line.

They have some pretty fundamental problems. She will give in on the tax but then what happens to the budget projections for 2013? Will she cut spending and bring the budget into line? If she does that she pisses off her constituency and then the press will begin to rag on her too.

why are the marginal voters all herd like going back to labor when she was the architect of the BER fiasco? Let the honeymoon simmer down a little and she’s back in Rudd’s seat. the problem is that their policies don’t work. And the public want that deficit closed down in a hurry without raising taxes as they well remember the previous government was able to live in its means have a good economy and cut taxes.

And we’ve seen this leadership change in Queensland and NSW without any real improvement.

JC

24 Jun 10 at 11:57 pm
Because Nothing Will Save Julia Gillard!

I saw Julia Gillard on the 7:30 Report and I thought she was a very cool cat. She reminded me of the Queen in one of those greetings at Christmas. God save our gracious Queen, Long live our noble Queen, God save the Queen!

TerjeP (say tay-a)

25 Jun 10 at 12:02 am
Long to rei-ei-eign over us. G-o-od Save Julia Gillard!

Peter Patton

25 Jun 10 at 12:04 am
That’s the spirit.

TerjeP (say tay-a)

25 Jun 10 at 12:12 am
Yeah, problem with that is that Rudd was a very cool cat too. His media skills, mastery of political patois and robotic steadfastness under all circumstances were all remarked upon, praised and held up in negative comparison to Nelson, Turnbull and Abbott. How’d that work out? Gillard just drones on and on giving non-answers, smugly refusing like a Bogan princess to accept responsibility for anything, playing the blame Tony game like no other etc. Bullshittery is the one thing she has in common with Rudd – not excluding direct co-responsibility for the train wreck policies that have cost the nation so dearly.

C.L,

25 Jun 10 at 12:26 am
Yeah, problem with that is that Rudd was a very cool cat too. His media skills, mastery of political patois and robotic steadfastness under all circumstances were all remarked upon, praised and held up in negative comparison to Nelson, Turnbull and Abbott. How’d that work out? Gillard just drones on and on giving non-answers, smugly refusing like a Bogan princess to accept responsibility for anything, playing the blame Tony game like no other etc. Bullshittery is the one thing she has in common with Rudd – not excluding direct co-responsibility for the train wreck policies that have cost the nation so dearly.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 1:39 am
I think this will work out for the ALP because a lot of people believe everything will be good just as long as we get the right person in charge. Rudd used to be that person but he was obviously wrong with hindsight. Now Julia is the right person.

Ben

25 Jun 10 at 3:35 am
The real question is:

Is Mark B a huge fucking moron? Or is it just that he thinks his readers are?

Because he is making about as much sense as the birdman in the last 48 hours, his latest conspiracy theory being the cherry on top.

Yobbo

25 Jun 10 at 5:26 am
mark is always complaining about the 24 hour news cycle but rudd exploited it as cynically as anyone else. if rudd never went for style over substance he might have a point.

ben

25 Jun 10 at 5:45 am
“..smugly refusing like a Bogan princess…”

Would be witty it it were, um, witty. Like I said yesterday, your assessment of Gillard is stuck in some weird time warp, CL.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 7:33 am
What is alarming is that no matter what colour slacks Julia wears (fawn, navy, black) her bum always looks big. Will it be an issue at the next election?

Sid Vicious

25 Jun 10 at 8:11 am
“Yeah, problem with that is that Rudd was a very cool cat too.”

But some of his tactics were just too clearly impolite “mind games”, such as the working on his papers and refusing to look at Howard in Parliament. I don’t think you’ll get such stuff from Gillard.

In fact, I think CL’s crankiness and obsession with a voice and image JG shed a long time ago indicates she has gotten under his skin: he can see how well she has performed in parliament and on TV in the last couple of years, but doesn’t want to admit it.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 9:27 am
I think the bloke in my local hamburger joint nailed it for me “different cover, same f***’n book”. Party leaders do seem to be becoming highly expendable… which makes one wonder how long before they are totally irrelevant.

HeathG

25 Jun 10 at 9:35 am
http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/06/24/my-piece-at-the-drum-on-the-political-execution-of-kevin-rudd/

This was hard to read. Cringe-worthy. I felt embarassed for Mark and couldn’t get all the way through it. He really piled on the misty-eyed hero worship for Kevin, as he has been for years now.

Jacques Chester

25 Jun 10 at 9:44 am
My female cousin described Gillard as a “snake in a woman suit”.

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 9:58 am
Well, IT, my elderly Mum, who would never dream of voting Labor, said she still thought Gillard would make a better PM than Rudd.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 10:05 am
You’d make a better PM than Rudd, steve.

If we have to have a union appointed puppet, it may as well be Jools. I’d prefer Mar’n Fergs’n.

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 10:10 am
The ALP hackery – which, is LP’s raison d’etre – is usually nauseating. The past few days – weeks even – have been just so overboard. Really creepy stuff. For a bunch of self-described left-wing people, the politburo over there will drop to its knees no matter how far right and neoliberal the ALP goes. How Lenin would have fantasized of having such Useful Idiots.

The irony of their banging on and on an ON – worse than that frickin’ Titanic song – about the “commentariart/punditariat/media narrative.” What do they think they are? Chopped liver?

One minute they are – yet again – banging on and on about the hip and ‘with it’ “social media” they run, and its relevance compared to the staid irrelevant “MSM.” Next minute, they are analysing the country at the level of a cynical Year 9 student writing essays in Social Studies about how everything is “the media’s fault.”

How do they reconcile this claim to have led the changing of the broadcasting guard with the ‘country is run by Murdoch?’ Simple. They don’t. These people are glued 24/7 to The Oz. Without The Oz, there would be no blog.

And where does the head honcho “publish” his stunning NFI ‘analysis’ of the last couple days? Why in the MSM itself!!

Peter Patton

25 Jun 10 at 10:17 am
Steve, nobody really takes much notice of your opinions. You predicted an ETS double dissolution and the destruction of Tony Abbott over the warmening issue. You thought Malcolm Turnbull’s 14 percent approval rating was wonderful and your whole political theory, as expostulated earlier in the year, seemed to revolve around Speedos and Lord Monckton’s eyeballs. You also said that when summer got going, voters would remember Nick Minchin which would lead to a generational collapse of the Liberal Party’s voting base. And finally, yesterday you invented the Eliza Doolittle story to argue that Julia has a beautiful speaking voice and fantasised at your blog about Tony Abbott being caught in adultery.

One positive thing: yesterday Gillard admitted that an ETS was currently impossible, thus confirming that Tony Abbott was right and you and Kevin Rudd were wrong.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 10:20 am
CL, it has been a matter of much comment over the years that her voice has changed, for the better. Gillard denies it is as a result of “elocution lessons”, this exchange in 2007:

MONICA ATTARD: Well, can I ask you, have you had elocution lessons?

JULIA GILLARD: No. This rumour comes around about once every fortnight, I think we would take a telephone call about it in the office, and I always joke when we get the telephone calls, people have got me confused with Eliza Doolittle, like I’m wandering around the office going; “the rain in Spain falls mainly on the plains”. You know, like, no. …

MONICA ATTARD: I mean, personally I don’t see it. I can’t hear it but people do swear on a stack of bibles the way Julia Gillard speaks has changed.

JULIA GILLARD: Oh I’ve honestly got no idea. You know, I don’t know why people think my voice has changed. People do think my voice has changed. You know, maybe there’s something about being more media exposed and doing more interviews, which mean because you’re more relaxed or something, maybe the way you talk has changed in that sense. I don’t know.

Maybe it wasn’t “elocution lessons”, but definitely changed her delivery, one suspects on the advice of someone.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 11:18 am
Jacques;

It’s okay. At least he’s okay. The crisis centre has it all under control.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 11:36 am
and he’s still wearing that stupid hat, JC

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2936265.htm

jtfsoon

25 Jun 10 at 11:39 am
Yobbo asks

The real question is:

Is Mark B a huge fucking moron? Or is it just that he thinks his readers are?

Because he is making about as much sense as the birdman in the last 48 hours, his latest conspiracy theory being the cherry on top.

It’s a fair question. They all are.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 11:39 am
Yeah, I dunno, Steve.

The Punch has comparative clips:

What’s more annoying: Julia Gillard’s voice or a vuvuzela?

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 11:45 am
Jase, he’s a dude that shouldn’t wear hats. I don’t think he has the head for it. Some people do but he doesn’t.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 11:48 am
One of my kid’s is overseas at the moment. Wifey emailed and told her Rudd had been rolled.

This kid has no interest in politics whatsoever.

Her response was… ” what happened, were people sick of his white pudginess?’

jc

25 Jun 10 at 11:53 am
I thought Mark’s essay was quite good. Some of it I don’t agree with, obviously, but it makes a valid point about the wisdom of boning prime ministers whenever the all-powerful secretary of the Federated Troglodytes’ Union feels like it, on the strength of a bad Newspoll.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 11:55 am
Just put your blokey, strong, self-made woman issues aside for a while, CL, it’ll help your political commentary.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 11:59 am
CL<

Mark's point is that the mining/media/murdoch military industrial complex got rid of the idiot.

I don't think Mark really has much of a problem with ALP "stake holders" having their say.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 11:59 am
He may not have mentioned it in this peice but he has in his rants over at his blog.

He think there was a conspiracy between the ABC, Murdoch and the miners to get rid of Rudd.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 12:02 pm
I love powerful self-made women, Steve. I’m the Thatcher, Palin, Condi fan, remember?

Julia wasn’t “self-made.” She had the job given to her by sugar daddies. That’s part of the tragedy of yesterday. Australia’s first female prime minister didn’t earn it.

With respect to political commentary, if you put away your fear of alpha males for a moment, you might be able to get your mind above Tony Abbott’s bellybutton.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 12:09 pm
Come now C.L.

The same people who promoted her were the same who blundered with Rudd.

She’s an opportunist. What’s more, she’s got the balls to front up, unlike the faceless men.

.

25 Jun 10 at 12:11 pm
It is sad that our first female PM was selected not elected*. Maybe they can parachute Warren Mundine in at some stage and give us a black PM too.

*Yes I’m aware we don’t elect PMs.

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 12:17 pm
Exactly Cl.

When did anyone from the right ever makes references and go ga ga over the fact hat Maggie was a woman: the foremost political leader in the latter 1/2 of the 20th century?

I can’t recall anyone giving a shit either way.

The right doesn’t care much about vagina based politics.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 12:17 pm
Latho weighs in.

FORMER Labor leader Mark Latham is predicting Prime Minister Julia Gillard will eventually be “the next one for the knife” because key ALP figures hate her.

“(Deputy Prime Minister) Wayne Swan is no fan of hers,” Mr Latham told Sky News today, a day after Ms Gillard toppled Kevin Rudd.

“Gillard has, for reasons I never quite understood, enormous animosity from people like (Anthony) Albanese and (Lindsay) Tanner and (Jenny) Macklin.”

“I don’t know what they did down there in the Victorian left in the 80s and 90s but they hate each other..

Ms Gillard, Australia’s first female prime minister, could struggle to win votes from women in key suburban marginal seats, Mr Latham said.

“Gillard ain’t no soccer mum, so there might be a failure to connect there.”

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 12:30 pm
“Australia’s first female prime minister didn’t earn it.”

And she’s doing the symbolic “I won’t move into the Lodge” until (if) she is elected, which is good politics, even though I wonder if her security in her current flat is good enough.

He house in Altona is indeed modest, too, I saw from pictures last night. I wonder what she is putting her money into…

By the way, I agreed with that bearded bloke on Skynews last night (Paul Murray I think) who said he thought that Abbotts sour congratulations to Gillard was not a good look.

And finally: I expect that how she goes will be determined pretty much solely by what she does on climate policy, and the mining tax. It’s my assessment that her personal image has become positive enough that the childless woman thing won’t matter.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 12:51 pm
.By the way, I agreed with that bearded bloke on Skynews last night (Paul Murray I think) who said he thought that Abbotts sour congratulations to Gillard was not a good look.

Lord you’re fucking whiner, Steve. You really are an old gossipy aunt…. Aunty Steve.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 12:55 pm
Murray is a Triple M presenter, you nong.

.

25 Jun 10 at 12:55 pm
“And finally: I expect that how she goes will be determined pretty much solely by what she does on climate policy, and the mining tax.”

I think she should be pro war, pro nuke and pro growth.

This means catching and killing Osama, saving the planet from warming and getting rid of current or proposed rapacious taxed.

I won’t be voting for a pro terrorist, pro pollution and pro poverty candidate.

.

25 Jun 10 at 12:57 pm
LOL, taxes…

.

25 Jun 10 at 12:59 pm
Ever wondered what steve looked like:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OFh1WWXWCHM/SWVVoAXmmRI/AAAAAAAACzg/5FhVp1xzFg0/s400/prissy.jpg

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 12:59 pm
I really don’t get the difficulty with the carbon issue. If the ETS is so hard, why don’t they just take up the greens on a carbon tax and then return the money through Humphreys tax cuts proposal. I don’t see how that would be such a big issue and would shut a lot of people up about it.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 1:03 pm
Winners and losers JC. That’s why. do the greens really support a carbon tax, I think I heard some greens fretting about the lack of guaranteed reductions.

Pedro

25 Jun 10 at 1:16 pm
There would be far less losers in the Humphreys proposal, Pedro.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 1:18 pm
Murray also hosts a panel show on Skynews, Symbol Who Used to be a Name.

As for an ETS: yes, I would be happy for a carbon tax too, and I suspect there will be people urging Gillard to consider it. It shows something concrete being done, even if it is interim.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 1:24 pm
Now Steve’s quoting disc jockies. Sheesh.

Abbott’s congratulations, combined with acknowledgement of the grubby way Julia ‘achieved’ the office, was pitch perfect. The most amusing part of the speechifying yesterday was that Gillard admitted Tony Abbott was right about almost everything: the hopelessness of the Rudd government, the impossibility of an ETS, the disastrous mess in relation to asylum seekers, the mining tax debacle.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 1:41 pm
The resmblance between Steve and Prissy from Foghorn Leghorn is uncanny.

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 1:43 pm
And she’s doing the symbolic “I won’t move into the Lodge” until (if) she is elected, which is good politics…

The actual reason is that Rudd still has a son at school and she didn’t want to be seen chasing a family – you know, with actual children – out of its home. If Rudd and Therese were childless, Julia and Stedman would have rocked up to The Lodge in a jiffy.

But I agree it was an effective political spin.

See, we can agree on something, Steve.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 1:44 pm
I think I saw an article a few weeks back that mentioned that DCC is working up how a consumption based carbon tax would look and work.

It’s not as though they have anything else to do.

Entropy

25 Jun 10 at 1:46 pm
FORMER Labor leader Mark Latham is predicting Prime Minister Julia Gillard will eventually be “the next one for the knife” because key ALP figures hate her.
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Interesting. Gillard was the only person in the parliamentary ALP not to kick Latham when his book came out. Way to return the loyalty.
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If Swan and Albanese hate her that’s a good reason to like her.

Adrien

25 Jun 10 at 1:47 pm
Oh and excellent video.

Adrien

25 Jun 10 at 1:47 pm
Steve’s problem is that Abbott didn’t display the requisite fawning, as he expects from fellow betas.

As you correctly referenced earlier, Steve is very fearful of male alpha attributes. It scares him.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 1:48 pm
Interesting. Gillard was the only person in the parliamentary ALP not to kick Latham when his book came out. Way to return the loyalty.

No, instead she launched a book about him that he says was a total fabrication. He’s a loose unit, but which of these ALP whackos isn’t?

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 1:51 pm
He’s a loose unit, but which of these ALP whackos isn’t?

No kidding, I’m not sure there would be anyone passing a sanity test in the federal ALP.

I think they trawl for recruits from the mental wards.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 1:55 pm
Apparently Albanese’s spray at Gillard during Wednesday night’s union coup was enough to strip paint off the walls. So he hates her guts, that’s pretty obvious.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 1:57 pm
CL: if I don’t quote someone else first, I am routinely accused of being the sole idiot to imagine it.

Julia can hardly get the leadership that way and then claim everything in the government is going swimmingly, can she.

IT, your analysis of Gillard has 1950′s cobwebs all over it. It’s not going to wash. I used to think her personal circumstances would be a hindrance to wide public appeal too, but it’s her performance that has convinced me otherwise.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 1:58 pm
Apparently Albanese’s spray at Gillard during Wednesday night’s union coup was enough to strip paint off the walls.

What’s that about. I haven’t see it.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 1:58 pm
She has much better interview eyes than Abbott’s, too.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 2:00 pm
well of course, Steve. Male’s frighten you. Man-up a little miss Steve

jc

25 Jun 10 at 2:01 pm
oop males.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 2:01 pm
it’s her performance that has convinced me otherwise
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You’re referring to her performance in front of TV cameras, I guess. Her actual performance, in terms of managing large portfolios, has been pretty second rate.
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she didn’t want to be seen chasing a family – you know, with actual children – out of its home
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LOL
but pets are people too, CL.

daddy dave

25 Jun 10 at 2:02 pm
My analysis of Gillard is that she is a closet solcialist, a union puppet and that smuch like her despised predecessor she will sucker the electorate into believing she has conservative values. The fact she’s single and childless is neither here nor there come voting day. I actually quite like her.

She’s no Maggie though.

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 2:03 pm
she is a closet socialist… she will sucker the electorate into believing she has conservative values
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Interesting, since that’s become de rigeur for left-wing candidates in America (e.g., Obama). I liked her tribute to the troops, but did wonder if I was being conned.

daddy dave

25 Jun 10 at 2:06 pm
jc, Abbott often has trouble getting tone and audience right (think the health debate with Rudd.) Yesterday was just another example of that. It’s yours and CL’s your crush on him that means you can’t recognise that.

steve from brisbane

25 Jun 10 at 2:09 pm
JC, one of the stories I read yesterday mentioned that Rudd loyalist Albanese in particular gave Julia a colourful and abusive piece of his mind.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 2:11 pm
I think there’s far to much play going about her ability to perform in front of the camera.

At this point in the government’s electoral cycle no one really gives much of a shit about how they perform. In all honesty Rudd’s performance by and large was also okay despite his annoying habit of asking himself questions.

It’s the substance that matters.

how is she going to close the deficit if she gives in to the miners. is it through spending cuts or tax hikes? If she doesn’t give in how is she going to differentiate herself from Rudd?

How is she going to stop the boats?

How about her explanation regarding the BER fiasco?

How about the ETS? Either way she moves she’s pissed off 1/2 the electorate with the ETS.

It’s the policies that do them in.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 2:11 pm
Crush on him?

Steve, you’re the one always bringing him up.

I just want him in because I don’t want the lair’s party in office any longer.

jc

25 Jun 10 at 2:13 pm
Abbott often has trouble getting tone and audience right…

On the upside, he has rescued the Opposition, demolished the ETS shemozzle, destroyed a prime minister and had a second prime minister go before the country and say that he was right on almost everything.

Union muppet, Julia, on the other hand, has the laptops fiasco and the BER debacle to her credit.

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 2:14 pm
I wonder what the Teacher’s Union would say to assertions that Gillard is a creature of organzied labour.

Adrien

25 Jun 10 at 2:17 pm
The AEU has as much influence on the ALP as the IPA. Look to the unions that actually fabricated Rudd’s assassination and Gillard’s ascension if you’re looking for those unions with political influence in the ALP.

dover_beach

25 Jun 10 at 2:24 pm
I thought your enemies delivered the greatest praise. What would Corrigan say?

.

25 Jun 10 at 2:27 pm
An amusing irony, given the Labor sisterhood’s sectarian attacks on Abbott’s Catholicism, is that the heavies who created Julia Gillard PM are NSW Right Catholic mafiosi – plus Don Farrell, devout Catholic alumnus of the Santamaria-ist shoppies’ union.

Nicola Roxon will be appalled.

Oh wait…

C.L.

25 Jun 10 at 2:40 pm
Yeah. It’s a good old fashioned Sunday afternoon in Dublin – Mick War. ‘Cept Gillard is Welsh. Can she sing?

Adrien

25 Jun 10 at 2:52 pm
The update is brilliant too!

Infidel Tiger

25 Jun 10 at 6:04 pm

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