As part of Labor’s stitch up with the Greens, the genius idea of the consensus-building (as long as they agree with government policy – see Penny) Citizens’ Assembly has been dumped.
It’s a very sad day for my Medicare Gold, Gold, Gold competition, the results of which are not yet finalised – just like the identity of the government.
But of course there was a late entrant – the Epping to Parramatta railway link (all Julia’s idea we hear), which seems to have got John Alexander over the line in the seat of Bennelong. A very strong contender, in my opinion.
Of course, I meant dumped but maybe there is someting Freudian in my mis-type.
Judith Sloan
1 Sep 10 at 11:37 am
LoL. The headline is fantastic.
Sinclair Davidson
1 Sep 10 at 11:42 am
The Jabberfest of the Average Slobs scrapped? Oh no! That breaks my heart.
Adrien
1 Sep 10 at 11:54 am
Judy it doesn’t matter how many times you say it.Treasury found Medicare gold saved money albeit in lower berms than the ALP said and that was quite controversial.
This and you do not know what re-regulation of the labour market is.
very Ctallaxian
Butterfield, Bloomfeld % Bishop
1 Sep 10 at 12:07 pm
That said, I’m partial to a Senate by sortition, as like a jury, if conscientious objection is the order of the day.
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1 Sep 10 at 12:13 pm
First broken promise.
Moving Forward!
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 12:14 pm
Agreed Homer, Medicare gold saved money in lower berms. In fact I would go all out and say that it was the berms that would’ve allowed major savings in medical and even dental care.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 12:14 pm
What the hell is a berm, Homer?
After the 2004 election, it was of course revealed that Latham and Gillard were adding crapola to their Medicare “policy” in the minutes leading up the press conference. It was a complete shambles.
But that’s Julia.
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 12:16 pm
I imagine lower Berms are much cheaper than the high Berms, but I would have thought less effective.
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 12:18 pm
Berm’s save money, Cl. If there were no berms Latham would not have introduced medicare gold and saved so much money in his proposal.
Later Howard adopted the berms strategy which he obviously stole from Latho and he too was able to save lots of money by using berms.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 12:19 pm
A berm is what a Scotsman sits on.
Adrien
1 Sep 10 at 12:21 pm
Catallaxian crackpots at ‘work’
Treasury worked out the costing which were very controversial and they showed they SAVED money but no let say black is white.
no wonder you people are mad
Butterfield, Bloomfeld % Bishop
1 Sep 10 at 12:22 pm
Homer, we agree with you. Berms save money.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 12:26 pm
I, for one, welcome our new berms.
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 12:27 pm
The difference between a citizen’s assembly and a parliamentary committee?
Nothing would have come out of the citizen’s assembly, but merely nothing good ever comes out of a committee.
It also seems that to be on their committee: you have to be “committed to a carbon price.”
Shameless!
Fleeced
1 Sep 10 at 12:31 pm
Glad to hear it Currency Lad. Here’s one that needs directions to your house. He’s kin.
Here’s another. Look, just post directions on the web, leave the door open and go to the discount liqour store. I think you’ll be making quite a few trips.
Adrien
1 Sep 10 at 12:34 pm
Anyone know what Adrien is talking about?
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 12:49 pm
I think he’s adding t0 Homer’s berm medical strategy from what I can tell.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 12:51 pm
“Treasury found Medicare gold saved money albeit in lower berms than the ALP said and that was quite controversial.”
“Saved money in lower terms (berms!)”?
Jesus Christ Homer, you’re more crooked than a dodgy mortgage broker. Less educated as well.
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1 Sep 10 at 1:03 pm
Wikipedia knows all:
“As portrayed by Sellers, Clouseau’s French accent became steadily more exaggerated in successive films (for example, pronouncing “room” as “reum”; “Pope” as “Peup”; “bomb” as “beumb”;”
Well done, Homeur.
Pedro the Ignorant
1 Sep 10 at 1:09 pm
The notion that free and unrationed health and hospital care for those 75 and over would save the government money never passed the laugh test nor the Department of Finance test either, see http://parlsec.treasurer.gov.au/DisplayDocs.aspx?doc=pressreleases/2004/091.htm&pageID=003&min=phc&Year=2004&DocType=0.
The only reason that this policy got a bit of run – according to Laura Tingle an act of political genius by Latham and Gillard, mmmm – was the rent-seeking behaviour of the private hospital groups who thought they would be paid at average cost plus and therefore went along with it.
And if it was such a great policy iniative, can I ask why Labor did not recommit to it in 2007 and 2010?
Not so sure about those saving in berms.
Judith Sloan
1 Sep 10 at 1:27 pm
New Orleans saved lots of money on its berms by failing to build higher ones. Look where that got them.
boy on a bike
1 Sep 10 at 1:41 pm
yeah Jude,
I didn’t realise Laure was part of the treasury team that costed the policy.
you are simply another ignorant person who doesn’t have a clue and moreover hasn’t bothered to find out.
A very easy question to answer. This ALP doesn’t want to prosecute an argument which pits data against community beliefs which are based on a false premise.
Insualtion is another good example of this.
Mind you a person who says prosecuting a person for sacking a women because she is pregnancy is an example of re-regulation of the labour market certainly passes the blonde test
Butterfield, Bloomfeld % Bishop
1 Sep 10 at 1:51 pm
Ok lets see what Homer has to say.
Now correst me if I am wrong, I don’t read these things all the time, but to me the treasury costing, indicate Medicare gold would cost around $2billion more than the existing arrangements.
http://www.treasury.gov.au/documents/912/HTML/docshell.asp?URL=medicare_gold.asp
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 1:54 pm
WTF?
Homer what is this mindless drivel supposed to mean?
Mind you a person who says prosecuting a person for sacking a women because she is pregnancy is an example of re-regulation of the labour market certainly passes the blonde test
JC
1 Sep 10 at 1:58 pm
Mind you a person who says prosecuting a person for sacking a women because she is pregnancy is an example of re-regulation of the labour market certainly passes the blonde test
I’m sure you’re such a hit with the ladies, Homer
jtfsoon
1 Sep 10 at 2:03 pm
“Treasury worked out the costing which were very controversial and they showed they SAVED money but no let say black is white.”
Come on Homer show us how the treasury estimate I linked to says it saves money.
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 2:06 pm
Why the hell is Homer allowed to post here? They shoot horses and yet this despicable gin soaked fool draws breath. What a messed up world.
Infidel Tiger
1 Sep 10 at 2:11 pm
Site manager
Is there a possibility of only allowing the least incoherent homer comments through as that way you would ensure that no more than .5% of that idiot’s infestation makes it through.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 2:16 pm
CL
Adrien posted at 12.34 pm, many hours after “Beer O’Clock” in Victoria.
Peter Patton
1 Sep 10 at 2:26 pm
Hey folks, do you really want to wasate so many electrons on the troll?
A couple of interesting things about the deal:
1. Brown signed it for the Greens – Bandt stood in the second row – but it does not seem to bind them in the Senate, just Bandt.
I reckon there will be friction between those two.
2. It’s still not clear what the ALP would do about climate change.
It does seem to me that Rudd’s decision to drop the subject made great sense – whatever you believe about AGW – in the absence of action from the rest of the world.
The dumb thing was getting expectations up in the first place.
But i don’t think Gillard can be frank about it now as that would annoy the Greens and she does need Brandt. So she must waffle.
ken n
1 Sep 10 at 2:28 pm
Mind you a person who says prosecuting a person for sacking a women because she is pregnancy is an example of re-regulation of the labour market certainly passes the blonde test.
Wow. Words fail.
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 2:33 pm
So do we now re calculate a 2PP on a Lib/coalition V ALP/greens basis. I’m sure someone will propose it soon enough.
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 2:35 pm
And I guess they can also claim a half million lead in first preferences.
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 2:39 pm
Statman.
it was swet Judy blue veyes that said prosecuting an employer for sacking a women who is pregnant was re-regualtion.
The fact is isn’t an example of this at all and the ALP did not introuce this at all merely shows we have another example of re-regualtion of the
Butterfield, Bloomfeld % Bishop
1 Sep 10 at 2:40 pm
Mr Oakeshott and Mr Windsor met with climate change experts Ross Garnaut and Sir Nicholas Stern on Tuesday but Mr Katter did not.
Good on Katter fore refusing to meet these “two lightweights”.
Why is Stern here? Don’t tell me he’s drinking at the labor consultancy trough too. Say it ain’t so.
It would be amusing if the she was on the other foot and say we had someone from the Bush Administration advising the conservative side then watch the reaction on the left.
Rob and Tony ought to ask these two nutballs whatever happened to their discount rates.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 2:42 pm
Homer, are you in favour the new Green Labor Party?
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 2:42 pm
Jeez
It would be amusing if the shoe was on the other foot …….
JC
1 Sep 10 at 2:43 pm
Homer would you like to comment on the treasury medicare gold costings which seem to show it was much more expensive.
http://www.treasury.gov.au/documents/912/HTML/docshell.asp?URL=medicare_gold.asp
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 2:43 pm
He’s been tranquilized as we speak fellas. The doc realized that the latest medication makes Homer more, manic, delusional and far more “infestational”.
He’ll be back after his short 72 hour sleep, so please be patient.
JC
1 Sep 10 at 2:45 pm
Buttplug, Broomstick & Beesdick seems to have been on one almighty bender. Flagons of sweet sherry must be in short supply at the Eastwood bottle-o.
Infidel Tiger
1 Sep 10 at 2:46 pm
so the only difference between ALP and Lib policy on IR is ‘prosecuting an employer for sacking a women who is pregnant”??
jtfsoon
1 Sep 10 at 2:50 pm
btw homer your written english is simply atrocious.
jtfsoon
1 Sep 10 at 2:52 pm
Sweet sherry is too sophisticated out there in the Berms. The Page 21ster probably drinks Dr Jurd’s Jungle Juice or Baileys.
Rococo Liberal
1 Sep 10 at 2:54 pm
‘btw homer your written english is simply atrocious.’
Have you only just noticed this, Jason?
Rococo Liberal
1 Sep 10 at 2:56 pm
I still love you, Homer.
C.L.
1 Sep 10 at 2:58 pm
Homer has remained silent on his Toozing of treasury,
Treasury worked out the costing which were very controversial and they showed they SAVED money but no let say black is white.
Despite the Treasury (and indeed the ALP) saying the reverse
http://www.treasury.gov.au/documents/912/HTML/docshell.asp?URL=medicare_gold.asp
Steve Edney
1 Sep 10 at 5:02 pm
Garnaut and Stern are economists, are they not ?
And Stern’s analysis was the subject on no small amount of criticism.
What makes these two ‘climate change experts’ ?
Who sat them down with Windsor and Oakeshott, and what was supposed to be the point – science, economics, policy, future employment opportunities on international NGOs, investment banks …?
Myrddin Seren
1 Sep 10 at 9:19 pm
Homer’s last comment is an absolute classic. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a funnier contribution. How trolleyed is that bloke? You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Dandy Warhol
1 Sep 10 at 10:25 pm
Homer,
Answer the question you gutless Spiv.
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2 Sep 10 at 8:22 am