Open Forum: March 5, 2011

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  1. Gabrielle

    Hello Michael S.

    *waving*

  2. Gabrielle

    Curses! Foiled again.

  3. THR

    Well, the main thing is that Sutcliffe’s reign of terror is over.

  4. daddy dave

    Thank God! But…
    “The king is dead, long live the king!”

  5. C.L.

    Poll:

    LABOR will win just 16 of 93 lower house seats in the NSW election after recording a primary vote of 23 per cent in the latest Daily Telegraph-Galaxy poll.

    I’m shocked. That many people are still intending to vote for the ALP?

  6. C.L.

    Oh no.

    MP Tony Windsor assassinated on Wikipedia.

    AUSTRALIA’S bruising political landscape has taken a violent turn after the Wikipedia site of independent MP Tony Windsor was edited to report he had been assassinated.

    Federal police will be called in to investigate the latest threat against the rural MP. Earlier this week, Mr Windsor revealed he had received death threats in the wake of his support for Labor’s climate change policies.

    When contacted, Mr Windsor was unaware his unauthorised Wikipedia site had been changed to include the assassination reference.

    Last week he said he feared that if the rhetoric was not toned down on carbon tax, Australia could experience a US-style political assassination attempt.

    A snapshot of Mr Windsor’s Wikipedia site said the Member for New England “became the first political to be assassinated (sic) in Australian history”.

    This is really getting serious. Next thing we know somebody on Facebook will post a picture of him with a moustache and funny glasses.

    Worse than Dallas.

  7. Gabrielle

    Well that’s what can happen when you run to the media and spill your beans. It’s probably just some kids – I’ve seen some really horrible horrible things written about Abbott on his old Facebook page and death threats were just the norm.

    What makes me suspicious about this whole Windsor threat scenario is Windsor’s own conflicting statements about never receiving death threats before and then saying that he never had as many as this week. It just doesn’t add up.

  8. C.L.

    Thankfully, details of Windsor’s proven cowardly lies about John Anderson are still in tact on Wiki:

    Windsor was re-elected and, in November 2004, speaking under parliamentary privilege, said that National Party leader John Anderson and Senator Sandy Macdonald had made the offer through an intermediary, Tamworth businessman Greg McGuire. Windsor also claimed that the AFP had referred the matter to the Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions for determination. Anderson, Macdonald, and McGuire denied the claims. The AFP investigated Windsor’s claims and advised that the matter would not be prosecuted.

  9. Gabrielle

    Three more jump ship.

    THREE senior Gillard government ministers have lost their chiefs-of-staff in the space of a week, with one of them joining the online activist group GetUp!

    And the ALP’s GetUp! promises to campaign for a carbon tax.

  10. JC

    What makes me suspicious about this whole Windsor threat scenario is Windsor’s own conflicting statements about never receiving death threats before and then saying that he never had as many as this week. It just doesn’t add up.

    Frankly I’m suspicious about everything he says and claims. He seems like a terrible human being. The fact that he made what appear to be false accusations against John Anderson makes me think there’s something underhanded going on.

  11. C.L.

    Brandis was very effective on Lateline – easily besting Mark Dreyfus. Not that this is saying much. Dreyfus is about as formidable as Play School’s Little Ted.

  12. Gabrielle

    The Ides of March, almost. The moon will be at the closest point to Gaia since 1993. There’s the possibility of inclement weather..

    “(The Earth will experience) just a lower than usual low tide and a higher than usual high tide around the time of the event, but nothing to get excited about.”

    But try telling that to anyone who suffered through the New England hurricane in 1938, or the Hunter Valley floods of 1955. Both happened during lunar perigrees.

    Cyclone Tracy in 1974 and Hurricance Katrina in 2005 also coincided with SuperMoons, or at least, very close to.

    They’re wrong of course. The moon has no effect whatsoever on our climate. It’s all due to CO2.

  13. C.L.

    ‘Climate change’ rocket crashes.

    “Indications are that the satellite and rocket … is in the southern Pacific Ocean somewhere.”

    Spoken with that famous warmenist sense of precision.

  14. Gabrielle

    The climate on Talk-Back Radio.

    Analysis by Media Monitors this week showed a highly unfavourable reaction to the carbon tax on commercial radio, and a favourable reaction to the policy on ABC radio in Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra.

    No. Surprises. At. All.

  15. Mr. Papaya

    CL – I couldn’t get that article to open on my iPad, do the warmies at any point denounce this polluting of the South Pacific Ocean with space junk?

    Gabrielle – I’m temped to suggest that the game is over for Gillard in trying to sell the tax to the public. It’s too late and has slipped too far for her government to endear the public towards their proposal, so I think the question is now whether she will stop pushing for it or simply continue to assert that the public does support her and do it anyway, flying in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

  16. daddy dave

    Woman arrested for taking pictures near an airport, then held in custody for several days. When the cops found a gun in the boot – legally registered to her and not loaded – they figured out she probably votes Republican.

    During the remainder of the six hours that Nancy Genovese was forcibly detained on the side of the road, she was taunted, verbally harangued, threatened, belittled, abused, humiliated and harassed by members of the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office. For example, Deputy Carlock repeatedly referred to Nancy as “a right winger” and “tea bagger”, and threatened that they were going to arrest her for terrorism to make an example of her to other “tea baggers” and “right wingers”.

    It gets worse. She got put in a straightjacket and had sedatives injected into her neck.
    She’s suing.

  17. daddy dave

    Obama’s sensitive. caring approach to law enforcement gets the good guys killed.

    Border Patrol Agent Terry and the BORTAC team were under standing orders to always use (“non-lethal”) bean-bag rounds first before using live ammunition. When the smugglers heard the first rounds, they returned fire with real bullets, and Agent Terry was killed in that exchange. Real bullets outperform bean bags every time.

  18. Nick Ferrett

    If the amendment to the Tony Windsor Wikipedia article hadn’t been so illiterate, I might have thought Rod Liddle was responsible for it.

  19. C.L.

    Dave, I read that article yesterday and couldn’t believe it. She’s suing for $70 million. She allegedly had time to ring her two sons as the cops sniffed around her car. When they came, they too were arrested. If accurately described, this is an example where violence against police would have been fully justified.

  20. Infidel Tiger

    She’s suing.

    I hope she breaks them. Those cops should all be in jail.

  21. .

    You’re all hysterical, from the DR:

    Of course, not so long ago, a different Prime Minister Gillard stated that ‘there will be no carbon tax under the government I lead’. The former Treasurer, also coincidentally called Wayne Swan, got quite offended at the suggestion a carbon tax was being considered: ‘What we rejected is this hysterical allegation that somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax.’ But now a new Julia Gillard and Wayne Swan are in government. And they are hysterical to say the least.

  22. .

    daddy dave:

    it’s an outrage. She could have been a blue dog democrat – or non political bar “support our troops”.

    it’s such an outrage it should be world famous. I hope the cops lose their jobs, go to gaol and get sued so hard it makes all other payouts look trivial.

  23. .

    Those evil, corrupt cops are not worthy to be in uniform. From the master:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_Principles

    The police are the public and the public are the police.

  24. You lot are so, so gullible, if you don’t take the story of a plaintiff in civil litigation from America with a bucket of salt.

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Remember the famous Mcdonald’s hot coffee case? Looks like McDonald’s fault when presented with these facts:

    http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/79371

  26. .

    You lot are so, so gullible, if you don’t take the story of a plaintiff in civil litigation from America with a bucket of salt.

    Bullshit. We’ll see who’s gullible sunshine.

    IT: That’s why they lost. They offered her about $500 IIRC.

    A lot of BS surrounds frivolous lawsuits. For example the dude who sued a nightclub owner for falling through the roof.

    Well no, not really. The owner caught him the second time and beat the shit out of him.

    I blame chain emails for this misrepresentation. A world where you cannot sue is much more irresponsible. All that needs to be reformed is the concept of proximity.

  27. Tillman

    Bird on the Currency Lad:

    To my mind he can be an objective thinker so I’m always upset when he goes on holidays from objective thinking. When he does so it is analogous to a cardinal on holidays prior to the advent of hand-held cameras. He goes from one extreme to another. The most objective and intelligent man in any room, and then its the opposite like some 1950?s cardinal in a Mexican whorehouse.

    High praise indeed.

  28. JC

    Oh goodie, a sell rating on the NYTimes.

    In a scathing research report released Friday, Lazard Capital Markets analyst William Bird called The New York Times (ticker: NYT) “an investment in a declining annuity,” as it initiated coverage with a Sell rating and $7 price target.

    The report, full of evidence about the Times’ failure to fully capitalize on its Internet traffic, sent shares tumbling 6% to a recent $10.16.

    http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052970204434504576180581507933082.html?mod=BOL_hpp_highlight_top

  29. JC

    the anal(yst) is no relation obviously.

  30. daddy dave

    You lot are so, so gullible, if you don’t take the story of a plaintiff in civil litigation from America with a bucket of salt

    The article says that these facts are uncontested by both parties.

  31. C.L.

    Indeed. I’m flattered.

    Look, I always enjoy it when Bird puts on his literary hat. The rhythms can be twee and the analogies somewhat amateurish (here he absent-mindedly leaves a hand-held camera dangling purposelessly) but he’s always entertaining.

  32. JC

    Westinghouse builds reactors in China of course. They’re going to build 10 reactors every year from 2020.

    They’re also going from customer to competitor with the latest Westinghouse technology.

    The reactors sounds cheap to build at $1 Billion per site meant to produce enough for 1 million homes.

    http://online.barrons.com/video/is-the-future-of-nuclear-energy-in-china-hands/C4E00AD6-D7BF-421C-AB82-0D590BE8075F.html#mod=BOL_hpp_video_barrons-markets

  33. Infidel Tiger

    I think the lack of hand-held cameras was to indicate you were safe to do your whoring because no one could secretly film you. Or something like that!

  34. C.L.

    It’s true that the story needs to be taken somewhat carefully at this stage – it’s likely the major source was the plaintiff’s statement to her lawyers.

    It’s also true that the city’s attorney didn’t bother to file a response to the lawsuit, thus allowing Genovese’s lawyers to file a motion of default judgement. (Essentially, this means the city was not contesting the matter). The attorney explains this ‘oversight’ by saying his mother and nephew died in the same week and he was too overwhelmed to do his duty.

    The whole thing is a mess. Clearly, though, the woman did nothing illegal because she was released without any charges being made.

  35. .

    So we could solve Australian emissions (transport and non trasnport) for the same/less price as the NBN?

    If the NBN has no positive NPV, building 40 nuke stations would require a very high discount rate so that paying 0.8% of GDP in perpetuity would make us better off.

    Deregulating nuclear power would see the private sector do this. Deregulating TV broadcasts and moving towards HDTV quicker would allow us to use the TV spectrum for super fast broadband.

    We can get mitigation, cheap power and top notch communications for zero taxpayer cost.

  36. .

    The attorney explains this ‘oversight’ by saying his mother and nephew died in the same week and he was too overwhelmed to do his duty.

    I feel sorry for him over that but it is BS. He has assistants etc.

  37. JC

    I’m laying off Birdie for few weeks after the face slapping he gave Happy Hamilton. He can abuse me and threaten as much as he likes for a week totally free.

    This is just magnificent.

    Clive has been laying abuse on climate rationalists for many many years now, and as soon as people start getting sick of his filthy behavior he’s the victim. Clive cannot be found to refer to a climate rationalist without laying out a term of abuse. And yet this despicable crybaby thinks he’s exempt from return fire.

    and

    When I sent that email to Clive, which he acknowledged by return email wasn’t threatening (ie by saying that if he got a threatening email he would alert the police) he had just gotten through a monumental Stalinist rewrite of history. He had done this with the assistance of comrades within the ABC. And they were comrades too. Because they had given him a totally unprecedented four articles in a row to ply this fiction of an anti-science conspiracy on the skeptical side of matters. A skeptical conspiracy persecuting people.

    In other words he was laying down a Stalinist retouching of history. Just as surely as comrade Trotsky was airbrushed out of various photos, here was Clive airbrushing the actual history of continual persecution of anyone who stood up to the global warming fraud juggernaut.

    Back in 2003 when I first went onto the internet I was really polite to everyone. But when I went to ask questions about global warming (and I WAS then pretty green) I’d get on these sites and be persistently abused, for merely asking questions in a pretty persistent way. By not taking evasiveness for an answer. You could get banned and persistently belittled for simply trying to get at the truth. So by about 2005 I had thought, “no these days are over” if I thought the belittling was going to start I’d get a kick to the throat in right at the beginning.

    I was fully aware of the relentless ostracism and penalties to the careers of scientists who stuck to their scientific values, and therefore called this leftist science fraud into question. And this is definitely a leftist fraud. This is no mere collegial disagreement.

    The tendency of any supporters of skeptical scientists getting nasty is very recent. I thought it was just me. But its pretty clear now that peoples tempers are boiling over at this constant Soviet-style propagandizing to us, on the basis of a brazen science fraud. People are not happy at Clives crowd hijacking the various school programs and lying to children in national socialist fashion.

    After Tony Jones and George Monbiot set Ian Plimer up, on live television (on the basis of an outrageous lie perpetrated by the USGS) …. after that I naturally emailed Monbiot and swore at him relentlessly and the only response I detected was the mysterious temporary disappearance of the source study for the USGS lie.

    You see Clive is alleging co-ordinated action but its really his crowd and it always has been. As far as I knew (at the time) I was the only one taking this sort of action, and always under my own name.

    But you see Clives historical rewrite is as if Clive and his bully-boys have spat on the Dalit women,every day of the week for ten years, and the very first time a few of them react to this spitting campaign, he and his ABC bully-boys orchestrate an historical rewrite of the entire history of the case.

    Crikey is a respectable left-of-centre outfit and more-or-less well regarded even by hard rightists like myself. But Clive is poison to Australian society, with his scheming, his dishonesty and his Stalinist instincts. If Crikey wants to stay respectable it ought not tolerate, much less patronise, a poisonous cultural virus like Clive Hamilton.

    and

    So come on Hairshirt Hamilton. I wrote this a long time ago. Its not okay to tell lies about an Australian (newspaper) war on science, to organise petitions for a new tax, to pursue globalist (ie treasonous) goals further eroding the sovereignty of the Australian electorate. To undermine the responsiveness of already unresponsive Australian politicians. To libel every honest scientist in Australia. To practice demagoguery in order to incite the eschatological-utopian instincts of hard leftists everywhere. To campaign maliciously for restricting Australian freedoms and lifestyles. To try and subject people like me to surveillance. To play down the reality of the Quixotic draft Copenhagen treaty.

    You think its okay to do all this year in year out and not respond to a request for evidence?

    You have to be joking Mate. Its not okay. Its far from okay.

    You see I think you are a coward who wants to be on the other end of the entire muscle of state apparatus. Guns money cops intelligence and armed forces. I think you are a big coward that want all this on your side since utopians are nothing if not Quixotic. Utopian socialists are big fat dreamers but sometimes their malicious dreams come true. And here I don’t want to alienate small government egalitarians. I’m an egalitarian myself.

    But supposing I were to show up at your place of work and ask for some evidence in person? What would you do? Would you burst into tears? Would you squirt a few? Would you cry in front of everyone?

    You know what you need. You need an honest CO2 record that goes back as far as possible. You need an honest heat content or temperature record that goes back as far as possible. You are allegedly a trained economist. If you have both of those you ought to be able to show causation if your movement isn’t fraudulent.

    Show up with the evidence or retract. Hurry up about it. Or hide that gleaming head from public debate until the end of time.

    and

    Now Clive. Take off that phoney costume you are wearing. Stop pretending to be for a free country. Because you are not for a free country. You’ve never been for a free country.

    By your admission Clive, you don’t understand climate science. Which means you are opportunistically using this issue to plug your eschatological-utopian daydreams. I recognize your writing style. I see the gestapo-like hatred behind the polished and uber-polite veneer.

    and

    Now what have you contributed to the debate on climate science Clive Hamilton? Nothing at all. Because you were never interested in the science Clive. You were only interested in leveraging the issue, to take away the sovereignty of your fellow Australians. Now there is a technical term for that Clive. A term for which we have lost the meaning in this culture. We have lost the meaning of the word “”treason.”

    I told you that you were a sissy. And here you come slumming-it, to talk to me, under cover of anonymity. But there was something wrong with that phoney costume you were wearing Clive. While Achilles Mother forgot that his heel was covered by her hand, you forgot to cover that head of yours.

    I could see that head shining a mile off on a foggy day.

  38. Infidel Tiger

    I told you that you were a sissy. And here you come slumming-it, to talk to me, under cover of anonymity. But there was something wrong with that phoney costume you were wearing Clive. While Achilles Mother forgot that his heel was covered by her hand, you forgot to cover that head of yours.

    I could see that head shining a mile off on a foggy day.

    That’s as good as it gets. Bravo!

  39. JC

    I’m glad Birdie and Clive have found each as this is going to be a match made in heaven over time…..

    This is going to leave a mark.

  40. .

    Birdie and Clive do a duet:

  41. ken n

    Hamilton goes global. I have mentioned before the wise blog from the US Coyote Blog – Dispatches from a small business.
    He comments on Hamilton’s outrage….
    A thoughtful conclusion

    To some extent, Hamilton’s article is an exercise in self-esteem building among alarmists, making them feel better about themselves by supposed superiority to the incivility he enumerates. Fine as far as it goes, all groups engage in the same kind of behavior. But there is a lot of thoughtful work that goes on in the skeptic community that in a non-broken scientific process would be considered productive challenges and/or replications of various studies. To the extent he is trying to hide this work from view and shut up skeptics in general, tarring those of use who are science-based with actions of the fringe, he is doing a severe disservice to the science he is supposedly defending.

    Coyote’s business is managing public use of state and national parks – camping and such. He has difficulty quite often getting contracts because he shows up how badly governments are doing the job (my words, not him)
    I recommend regular reading.

  42. C.L.

    LOL. I see that Phil is attacking Gab over the 2004 Moscow airport bombing.

    Flashback:

    An umistakable and glorious challenge, a globally hailed and celebrated declaration of the triumph of the human spirit, even from within the dark belly of the beast.

    Few things are more inspiring than this, ever.

    Malik Nidal Hasan. May you live in our memory and be honoured by billions and future generations forever.

    – Phil, sexually excited by mass murder.

    It would be reassuring if Bird manfully explained his alliance with this malodorous boil. Until he does, there is the suspicion that Thetis dipped Bird in the Styx while grasping his testicles – a vulnerability more troubling than chrome-domed Clive’s, the latter being a mere trilby away from correction. I don’t believe this myself but it’s a suspicion that could take root.

  43. .

    Good news:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/04/3154932.htm?site=sydney

    Not even a scare campaign can save them now.

    Another opinion poll is pointing to a disastrous result for the New South Wales Government at this month’s state election.
    The Galaxy Poll of 800 voters suggests Labor could win just 16 of the state’s 93 Lower House seats.
    The poll has the government trailing the Coalition by 64 per cent to 36 on a two party preferred basis.

    It is possible but unlikely to get a double majority.

  44. Jc

    Yea, strange mental illness getting excited by mass killings. Phil is a very sick man.

  45. .

    phil psychoanalyses the cat:

    Look, my best guess is CL is a 55-65 year old paraplegic who broke his spine diving or motorcycling in his teens to early 20s. He’s never worked in the paid workforce. He was educated in the rural sticks of Qld to secondary level. He’s never been to university. He probably received his secondary education and some post secondary in a Catholic boarding school for potential seminarians. He may have done a couple of years there before the accident.

    He’s definitely a virgin. And like JC, lonely as hell, which is why both he and now “Gab” post on that blog from first thing in the morning till last thing at night 24/7.

    If you mean having not engaged in cross dressing and taking it through a glory hole is your definition of a “virgin”, phil.

  46. C.L.

    LOL. It seems our attack on the Moscow airport bomber set Phil off. He’s quite literally sexually thrilled by Islamic mass murderers.

    Bird’s friend.

  47. C.L.

    Somebody was discussing The Adjustment Bureau here the other day.

    Ace has posted a review:

    One star. I think it’s probably one and a half stars, but I’m deducting a half-star for the completely deceptive marketing campaign, which sells this as the sort of movie I wanted to see when in fact it’s a completely different one. A really gaytarded one.

    This the quickest way I can review this piece of shit. I’m going to give you two movie pitches. You decide which you think you’d probably like to see.

    Read on:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/312899.php

  48. daddy dave

    Ace has posted a review

    How disappointing. I was looking forward to seeing it.

  49. Peter Patton

    Well Phil is very lucky the Avian Oracle is the mod, if s/he posted that at LP, she’d be arrested for “ableism”.

  50. Peter Patton

    And sentenced to attend ten “Fat Acceptance” meetings.

  51. Gabrielle

    lol One knows when one has ‘arrived’ in BlogSociety when one has been disparaged by Phil The Trannie.

    And then Phil rides off on his merry way to stock up on more olive oil and raw milk for the usual Saturday evening bath. The social event of her week.

  52. jtfsoon

    Bird says in response to Phil’s speculations about CL:

    Well I take note of your opinion but I must reserve judgement. To my mind he can be an objective thinker so I’m always upset when he goes on holidays from objective thinking. When he does so it is analogous to a cardinal on holidays prior to the advent of hand-held cameras. He goes from one extreme to another. The most objective and intelligent man in any room, and then its the opposite like some 1950?s cardinal in a Mexican whorehouse. I still listen carefully to his opinion and its easy to see when he’s not the objective scholar. So its not like he’s going to sway me in the wrong direction. I’m not powerfully happy with him lately but I’ll let it slide.

  53. Jc

    Can I suggest one word change, gab?

    lol One knows when one has ‘arrived’ in BlogSociety when one has been disparaged by Phil The Trannie.

    And then Phil rides off on his merry way to stock up on more olive oil and raw milk for the usual Saturday evening bath. The social event of his week.

  54. Gabrielle

    It was purposeful, JC, as it should be for Trans.

  55. Jc

    Oh sorry Gab. No offense intended of course.

  56. Gabrielle

    lol. As if I would take offense.

    The comment from Bird on CL seems mostly a respectful and affectionate chiding.

  57. Jc

    Fdb

    Can someone program apple tv on a crest on system? Is that doable?

  58. Jc

    Yea I know I’m just joshing around, Gab.

    If it comes to the crunch birdie will turn on cl if his trannie keeps pressing and nagging him.

  59. .

    Obama:

    Get the F/A 18Fs up in the air over Tripoli. The time is now if you want to step up and be considered not only great but a benefactor of human rights.

    Catch the bastard and hang him.

  60. .

    Well

    USS Kearsarge has only AV-8B Harrier IIs.

    Get em up.

  61. Get the F/A 18Fs up in the air over Tripoli. The time is now if you want to step up and be considered not only great but a benefactor of human rights.

    Catch the bastard and hang him.

    Will have to declare war on Libya because first you have to take out the air defence capability. The latter would probably involve libyan casualties. And then people would blame Obama for that. Either way he can’t win.

  62. C.L.

    The comment from Bird on CL seems mostly a respectful and affectionate chiding.

    He’s angry because I made a little joke about ASIO monitoring his place (a la Clive) and catching Phil arrive with a large number of 3lt milk bottles.

    Lighten up, Bird. We were all on your side re Hamilton.

  63. .

    He could throw his weight behind the legitimacy of the rebels and go for strikes against capital and command and control decapitation.

    The risk of blame is better than another Karbala.

  64. C.L.

    I haven’t seen anything to alter my February 18 take on the ME sit:

    It’s my impression that the current Winds Zephyrs of Change in the Middle East are driven mostly by moderate pious (which is to say, very substantially religious) disgust with the sheer grubbiness of state officials in bed with not only the Great Satan (Egypt) but also drug syndicates and other scandalising forces of corruption. Arabs probably tolerate a good deal of tyranny in the name of maintaining a degree of – to them – cultural cleanliness. But they won’t tolerate a secularised nomenkla-towelhead-tura torturing and killing anti-drugs/graft whisteblowers (as occurred, foundationally, in the recent Egyptian uprising).

    This isn’t to say the Zephyrs of Change are Islamist – for I think that a lot of it is driven by activists who see themselves as – and largely are – rational players in a fractious milieu. But they want the middle-way between Khomeini-ism and Western liberalism cleansed. I therefore see all of this as a conservative movement – not one to be excited about if you’re dreaming about Sandy Singapores. Nor one to be worried about (so far) if you’re wary of Islamism.

    With one qualification: I now think the balance has shifted to Islamism vis-a-vis sandestroika.

  65. Gabrielle

    Tweets from the “new” Egypt:

    @monaeltahawy #Copts currently in state of terror in village of Sooul, Helwan #Egypt in aftermath of attack from local Muslims

    @SazzleUk Truth is truth! The Muslims doing this are actually common citizens in the village! NOT terrorists!

    MUSLIMS DESECRATE THE SACRED RELICS OF SAINTS IN CHURCH IN VILLAGE OF ITFEEH Helwan #EGYPT #Coptic

    #Copts in villageof Itfeeh, Helwan currently under attack from Muslim militants: church burned, homes attacked, ppl assaulted #Coptic #Egypt

    # Priest says that THOUSANDS of Muslims attacked #Copts in Sooul, Helwan burning Church of St. George; army is currently trying to intervene about 7 hours ago via web

    # Local Muslims attack #Copts in village of Sooul, Helwan burning their churches, homes, and property #Coptic #Egypt 3/2/11 about 7 hours ago via web

    I believe there are 1 million or so in Egyot who are terrified of Islamism

  66. daddy dave

    Time to open our doors to the copts.
    Like, now.

  67. .

    Yep now. Open the borders. For liberty.

  68. daddy dave

    of course, we won’t. We’ll just collectively wring our hands as another disaster unfolds on our TV screens.

  69. C.L.

    It’s a pogrom, pure and simple, as a few of us were saying several weeks ago. It would be nice if those who ran the Great Satan/Mubarak apologia as a figleaf for Islam popped in to say they were wrong. This isn’t statist divide and conquer gone wrong. It’s popular and willing exterminationism of the Daniel Goldhagen variety. An overarching, muscular geo-strategic response is needed from the United States or this will be the harbinger – of the Armenian kind – for a regional attempt to avenge the Six Day War.

    Tragically, we have Barack Obama in the Oval Office.

  70. Michael Sutcliffe

    Hello Michael S.

    *waving*

    Well, the main thing is that Sutcliffe’s reign of terror is over.

    He who fights and runs away…………!!

  71. C.L.

    Oops-a-daisy.

    At a House committee hearing on ObamaCare, Kathleen Sebelius has admitted the Obama administration is guilty of a massive, orchestrated fraud:

    During a hearing on Capitol Hill Thursday, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) admitted to double-counting in the Obamacare budget.

    Details at that link. Video of John Shimkus (R-IL) forcing the admission here.

  72. .

    During a hearing on Capitol Hill Thursday, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) admitted to double-counting in the Obamacare budget.

    Impeach.

  73. Michael Sutcliffe

    The bloat of the US government has been founded on a good helping of fraud and mistruths for so long now.

  74. C.L.

    Phil the Nidal Hasan homosexual fantasist re-visits old tales he once shared with us here: the aunty who was raped by a pope and the uncle molested by a cardinal etc…

    The cardinal analogy is also apt given the virtual universal cover-up of child sexual abuse by Catholic bishops and parish priests throughout the world and in Australia, something CL always implicitly and hotly defended.

    He even repeatedly mocked this in relation to cases I mentioned from my own experience as a Catholic with relatives in the priesthood and convent and knowledge of vast numbers of people who like myself were educated in Catholic schools, the sexual abuse history of which has now become common knowledge.

    There is a high incidence of regular sexual activity among Catholic male clergy. I guess some of them go to brothels, and men like CL – if he was able to walk and had functional sexual apparatus, two big ifs – would prefer such outlets.

  75. .

    *Catholic male clergy*

    Unlike the transvestite clergy…

  76. C.L.

    The Koch brothers and styrofoam cups – the latest lefty conspiracy theory:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/03/028514.php

  77. sdfc

    Celibacy of the Catholic Priesthood may increase temptation in relation to adult parishioners but I can’t see it turning normal men into paedophiles.

  78. sdfc

    I just had a comment put into moderation because I used a barred word. Let me try again.

    Celibacy of the Catholic Priesthood may increase temptation in relation to adult parishioners but I can’t see it turning normal men into kiddy fiddlers.

  79. .

    Hairdressers and HR parasites want to be paid the same as miners, option traders and special forces personnel.

    http://www.security4women.org.au/

    Do more dangerous or risky work, or do hard science at uni. You can’t bludge your way to equality, gals.

    Silly and confused. Women deserve equal pay for equal work (which they already do) regardless of performance or job type, based on aggregations of the data?

    The comments are gold.

  80. Boris

    Today is the anniversary of Stalin’s death.

  81. Gabrielle

    J’ai Deux Amour sung by Madeleine Peyroux.
    (And some lovely photos of Paris).

    Soothing Jazz after a night of “House Music”.(Never again).

  82. Peter Patton

    Apocalypse Now in Arabic.

    Bring. It. On.

    You Go Towelheads!

    Saudi Arabia was yesterday drafting up to 10,000 security personnel into its north-eastern Shia Muslim provinces, clogging the highways into Dammam and other cities with busloads of troops in fear of next week’s “day of rage” by what is now called the “Hunayn Revolution”.

    Saudi Arabia’s worst nightmare – the arrival of the new Arab awakening of rebellion and insurrection in the kingdom – is now casting its long shadow over the House of Saud. Provoked by the Shia majority uprising in the neighbouring Sunni-dominated island of Bahrain, where protesters are calling for the overthrow of the ruling al-Khalifa family, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is widely reported to have told the Bahraini authorities that if they do not crush their Shia revolt, his own forces will

    .

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudis-mobilise-thousands-of-troops-to-quell-growing-revolt-2232928.html

  83. daddy dave

    I changed my mind on whether Gillard lied when she said “there will be no carbon tax.”
    If you make a promise, then you change your mind, then it wasn’t a promise. That’s the lie. The lie is in the guarantee.

  84. daddy dave

    Barry Cassidy’s jumped the shark, interviewing Andrew Robb. He was much more hostile than his usual interviews. Plus he enthusiastically defended Gillard’s broken promise “she changed her mind”, then castigating Robb because Turnbull who supports an ETS.

  85. daddy dave

    I commented earlier about the death of Brian Terry, border patrol agent who was armed only with bean bag bullets against fully armed smugglers.
    It seems that the weapons that the smugglers shot him with were allowed across the border by the ATF so they could track the weaponse to the “bigger-time criminals.”

    So not only was he packing “non-lethal” ammunition, which is Obama’s policy, he was shot using lethal weapons supplied to Mexican gangs – also Obama’s policy.

  86. JC

    He’s like all the other lefties on the ABC. A thin veneer of even-handedness until labor looks like sinking.

    Scumbags like Cassidy and Jones would rather see the country up in smoke than turn on Labor.

    Changing one’s mind is not dishonesty after giving a categorical undertaking… LOl. These people are impossible to reason with, which is why you always go for the jugular.

  87. daddy dave

    I don’t mind tough interviews, JC. But it was a stark contrast to the nice, friendly softball questions he threw to Greens Senator Hanson-Young recently. No haranguing (some of that today such as he returned to the issue of Turnbull more than once); no gotchas (there were a couple today though); no repeating unasked questions; in fact the questions for Hanson-Young were almost Dorothy-Dixers.

    It’s disappointing. I’ve always felt Cassidy to be even handed but he’s morphing into Kerry O Brien.

  88. JC

    Extremist, ignorant nutcases like Hanson- Young get easy treatment from leftwingers like Cassidy? They always have.

    Has Cassidy ever draw an salary that isn’t funded by the taxpayer in his life?

  89. JC

    I’ve always felt Cassidy to be even handed but he’s morphing into Kerry O Brien.

    Why have you had the impression? The butter doesn’t melt in his mouth routine doesn’t disguise the fact that he’s a partisan player. Every single program that reprobate has run has two leftards and one rightwinger, so the match up is 3 to 1 including him.

  90. Myrddin Seren

    Would like to imagine the reaction of Barry C and others represents their frustration that the grand plans are in reverse.

    Possibly just pressure on the prime movers like ABC talking heads from within their social groups to get the timetable back on track, rather than that the game is over.

    eg This rather depressing piece from a UK blogger – seeing what we see here in Australia far further down the track, highlights the huge challenge to unpick radicalism from the fabric of governance.

    eg

    “These are the people who really govern the country. They are the ones who decide what statistics to gather and how and when to publish them. They decide what problems can be identified and what solutions can be discussed. They advise on policy and implement policy. Because of their numbers and education and beliefs, and the formal and informal bonds that hold them to each other, and because of their ability and willingness to give and withhold benefits, they set the tone of society.”

  91. JC

    Bird seems to really have it in for Happy’s gleamer.

    Have you seen Clives head lately? Have you seen it Frank? Its nothing that the camera will necessarily always capture. Have you seen it?

    When you see him now, since I had that talk to him. Since I had that talk to him. Since I threw down the gauntlet. Since I presented that request …… well there’s always been something different about him.

    He gets in front of the mirror ……

    And he can wipe it with alcohol.
    He can rub moisturizer into it.
    He can use wood polish, metal polish …
    He can even get his special friends to spit on it ….

    But that head is never going to be right for a very very long long time.

  92. Peter Patton

    I imagine Cassidy probably thought he was on the Play School shift when he interviewed Hanson-Young.

  93. C.L.

    Islamic front group, the ‘United Nations’, sniffs the wind in the Middle East, appoints Iran to Commission on the Status of Women.

    Obama approving of the front group, it was up to Prime Minister Cameron to lead the world this week:

    U.K. Pulls Plug on United Nations Spending.

    In a sweeping and hard-nosed reorganization of priorities for its $10.6 billion multilateral foreign aid program, the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government of Prime Minister David Cameron has pulled the financial plug entirely on four U.N. agencies at the end of next year, put three others judged merely “adequate” on notice that they could face the same fate unless they improve their performance “as a matter of absolute urgency;” and issued pointed criticisms of almost all the rest.

  94. C.L.

    The Age of Bush…

    Krauthammer: From Baghdad To Benghazi: Everyone Is a Convert to George W. Bush’s Freedom Agenda.

    Voices around the world, from Europe to America to Libya, are calling for U.S. intervention to help bring down Moammar Gaddafi. Yet for bringing down Saddam Hussein, the United States has been denounced variously for aggression, deception, arrogance and imperialism.

    A strange moral inversion, considering that Hussein’s evil was an order of magnitude beyond Gaddafi’s. Gaddafi is a capricious killer; Hussein was systematic. Gaddafi was too unstable and crazy to begin to match the Baathist apparatus: a comprehensive national system of terror, torture and mass murder, gassing entire villages to create what author Kanan Makiya called a “Republic of Fear.”

    Moreover, that systemized brutality made Hussein immovable in a way that Gaddafi is not. Barely armed Libyans have already seized half the country on their own. Yet in Iraq, there was no chance of putting an end to the regime without the terrible swift sword (it took all of three weeks) of the United States.

    No matter the hypocritical double standard. Now that revolutions are sweeping the Middle East and everyone is a convert to George W. Bush’s freedom agenda, it’s not just Iraq that has slid into the memory hole. Also forgotten is the once proudly proclaimed “realism” of Years One and Two of President Obama’s foreign policy – the “smart power” antidote to Bush’s alleged misty-eyed idealism.

    It began on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s first Asia trip, when she publicly played down human rights concerns in China. The administration also cut aid for democracy promotion in Egypt by 50 percent. And cut civil society funds – money for precisely the organizations we now need to help Egyptian democracy – by 70 percent.

    This new realism reached its apogee with Obama’s reticence and tardiness in saying anything in support of the 2009 Green Revolution in Iran. On the contrary, Obama made clear that nuclear negotiations with the discredited and murderous regime (talks that a child could see would go nowhere) took precedence over the democratic revolutionaries in the street – to the point where demonstrators in Tehran chanted, “Obama, Obama, you are either with us or with them.”

    Now that revolution has spread from Tunisia to Oman, however, the administration is rushing to keep up with the new dispensation, repeating the fundamental tenet of the Bush Doctrine that Arabs are no exception to the universal thirst for dignity and freedom.

  95. daddy dave

    Gillard to address Congress

    Too horrifying to imagine. Yet I won’t be able to look away.

  96. Shining light on an illusion. 🙂

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20204-the-brain-engineer-shining-a-light-on-consciousness.html


    You majored in physics. What drew you to neuroscience?

    We’ve got all these rules from physics about how the universe works, but how do we perceive? How do we think? How do we feel? We haven’t exactly got a lot of insight into that from knowing about quarks and leptons. We know about the building blocks of the universe, but knowing a lot about physics doesn’t help us understand the brain as a complex physical system – and that’s one of the outstanding problems of the 21st century.

  97. C.L.

    The sales background of a Greens candidate – now selling ‘global warming’ – revealed:

    Jamie Parker, the man expected to become the Greens’ first lower-house MP in NSW, was in charge of marketing at a natural therapies company that was repeatedly shamed by authorities for ‘’misleading advertising’’ and ‘’exploiting consumers’’.

    Mr Parker, who polls suggest will unseat Education Minister Verity Firth in Balmain, marketed products including FatBlaster, FatMagnet, Horny Goat Weed and Cholestaguard under the brand name Naturopathica.

    I don’t see any career divergence here at all.

  98. JC

    I don’t see any career divergence here at all.

    In the corporate world, especially banking it’s called a seamless transition.

  99. JC

    Mr Parker, who polls suggest will unseat Education Minister Verity Firth in Balmain, marketed products including FatBlaster, FatMagnet, Horny Goat Weed and Cholestaguard under the brand name Naturopathica.

    fair dinkum, but if this nutball gets the votes for parliament you’d have to argue that a large slab of the Australian population is mentally unfit to cast a vote.

    How anyone could admit they vote greens is something I really don;t understand.

  100. jtfsoon

    Profile of Kristina’s possible replacement. He may be the first actual working class leader of the ALP in a while

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/state-election-2011/floats-like-a-butterfly-8230-20110305-1biq1.html

  101. C.L.

    DRUDGE headline troika:

    – UK ‘to send team of spies’ to help oust Gadhafi…

    – British Army readies for mission at 24 hours’ notice…

    – Obama goes golfing…

  102. JC

    I just turned on TV and started to watch an Australian series called “Satisfaction”.

    First scene..

    Two lesbians having sex. One of them coming up for air and really nice protruding nipples on both.. the sort you could hang a coat on.

    Ring at the door. One gal reluctantly gets out of bed and there’s nice a beaver shot and cute bum… lots of lezzo kissing.

    (the lezos are good lookers).

    Next scene…. Friends at the door… hetro couple … the pregnant girlfriend.

    Next scene, after some ads and credits is the hetro male friend hamming it up in the bathroom because he’s also going to act as the sperm dono to the blond muff diver.

    Stopped watching, as I couldn’t take any more.
    Fair Dinkum, can’t even try an improve Australian Drama scripts.

  103. Quentin George

    Sounds like satisfaction to me, JC.

  104. Gabrielle

    The carbon tax already has an effect well before July 2012. These poor people can’t afford clothes or cars..

    More than 150 naked cyclists coursed their way through inner-city Melbourne in support of bike activism on Sunday.

    Organiser Heidi Hill says the ride protests in favour of bike activism, as well as naturism, environmentalism and pacifism.

    Hope Phil didn’t attend. eeeewwwww

  105. C.L.

    Texas legislation will make TSA airport procedures illegal and those who conduct them subject to felony arrest.

  106. Gabrielle

    Brisbane post-flood update:

    EXPERTS hired by insurance companies have blamed Wivenhoe Dam for contributing to the devastating floods in Brisbane and Ipswich.

    A report written for the Insurance Australia Group, which owns NRMA and CGU, details how releases from Wivenhoe, combined with intense rainfall, flooded hundreds of homes and businesses.
    The expert opinion, written by engineering giant WorleyParsons, potentially exposes the State Government to legal action for negligence.

    However, the report fails to ascertain how much of the January 13 flood could be attributed to Wivenhoe because Government-owned dam operator SEQWater has refused to detail its water releases in the days prior. The secrecy surrounding the releases has left in limbo victims such as David Stark, who is attempting to write submissions to the flood inquiry.

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/experts-say-dam-contributed-to-flood/story-fn7ik2te-1226016795765

  107. .

    Texas legislation will make TSA airport procedures illegal and those who conduct them subject to felony arrest.

    Excellent news.

  108. .

    Gab: there were also some bizarre and unexplained releases in the Snowy Hydro system into Western flowing rivers in the system as they were under flood threat. The mind boggles why it wasn’t sent over to the much talked about impoverished Snowy watershed.

    Maybe NSW and QLD will get the pants sued off them.

  109. Peter Patton

    jason, I think Nathan Rees was the real deal. Born and raised in Doonside (?), Northmead High, left school in Year 10, an apprenticeship, and work on the local [Paramatta/Penrith ?] council (garbo?). I think he did an Arts degree later in life, before joining a trade union. Certainly a different game in NSW, compared to the effette haute bourgeois world of Victorian politics, which is basically Melbourne Grammar/Scotch two-up.

  110. Peter Patton

    I can’t believe I am saying this, but I am still far from comfortable with the idea of voting Libs in the election. I still reckon the NSW Party is riddled with the Uglies and rabid Rock Choppers.

  111. Peter Patton

    jason, I like Robbo. He’s straight down the line, and assertive.

  112. Peter Patton

    I imagine John Robertson and Frannie would know each other, and hate each other’s guts, in the way that ALP people hate Trots and vice-versa.

  113. Peter Patton

    JC

    Next scene, after some ads and credits is the hetro male friend hamming it up in the bathroom because he’s also going to act as the sperm dono to the blond muff diver.

    Stopped watching, as I couldn’t take any more.
    Fair Dinkum, can’t even try an improve Australian Drama scripts

    You mean scripts that don’t cut your grass, by introducing hetero dudes, after they’ve already got you hooked by a promised three-way with some lipstick lezzies? 🙂

  114. .

    I still reckon the NSW Party is riddled with …rabid Rock Choppers.

    Name one. Don’t you dare vote Greens or Liberal. At least make it worthless.

  115. Peter Patton

    Oh, there’s no way I will vote Greens. Especially in NSW, where it is basically incubating international socialists, Communists, and anti-Semitic wealth-destroyers, among whom the rancid and innumerate AEU festers.

  116. JC

    Slightly disgusted?

    “U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced Friday that $2.4 billion in high-speed rail funding intended for Florida will be sent to other states after the state Supreme Court upheld Gov. Rick Scott’s decision to reject the money,” the Associated Press reports from Tallahassee:

    The Republican governor’s decision effectively kills the Tampa-Orlando route.

    Until Scott’s election in November, it had been on track to become a leading example of how the Obama administration’s stimulus plan is creating jobs and reviving the nation’s passenger rail system.

    Several states, including New York and Rhode Island, have asked LaHood for Florida’s rail funds, but the only project that would achieve the high speeds associated with bullet trains in Asia and Europe would be California’s.

    Why was the federal government trying to force this boondoggle on the Sunshine State? If Florida doesn’t want the money, why not return it to the Treasury rather than throw it at boondoggles in other states? Who is John Galt?

    The sense of whose money it is, is lost on these people.

  117. JC

    This is hilarious. Every time now when Honest Tony Windsor get asked curly questions he hangs up on the interviewer.

    I guess it a good way of not lying.

    This guy is a real piece of work.

    Windsor went back on air later to continue the interview but still refused to explain his unfounded smear against 2NZ. He also said, “low income earners could possibly profit” from a carbon tax. And he claimed the 2NZ phone poll showing 97 percent of callers were against the tax was part of a “campaign that’s being pushed to frighten people” by websites with an “American-style political agenda… We shouldn’t encourage it.”

  118. jtfsoon

    Looks like Graeme has inherited a bee in his bonnet about CL whitewashing the Catholic church from philomena

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/my-enormous-contributions-to-the-field-of-climate-science/#comments

    Look I turn my palms up but what can I do? Here you have the Church with probably the greatest intellectual tradition of anything anywhere and he’s part of that. And here we have a church who has, perhaps with commie magnification ….. had a problem with sexual exploitation and kiddy sexual exploitation …. absolutely run amok in the last 40? years ……. and he’s part of the looking the other way.

    But maybe its tough to be Aquinian the whole time. I took the flak over 9/11 and speculating about certain things on Mars and the hybrid skull. Maybe its a little hard to follow that tardy rabbit down every damn hole. I’d bury the hatchet if he would be nice to you.

  119. jtfsoon

    and philo really has it in for dover

    Graeme, as I wrote here a long time ago, of all the men who comment on Catallaxy, the two whose minds and ways of thinking interest or engage me the least are CL and dover_beach. I really don’t care what they think or say. They teach nothing good or that people need to know. They are angry haters, that is all.

    As far as I’m concerned, politics aside, they have no saving graces. They bored me stupid when they didn’t t make me feel ill by their callous smugness.

  120. JC

    So let me get this right, Birdie is trying to do a trade here. He’ll be nice to CL if he (CL) lays off his Trannie.

    My humble advice.

    Cl, don’t do the deal as it’s simply not worth it.

  121. jtfsoon

    JC
    he’s also implying that the Soviets sent pedophiles into the Catholic church to discredit it!

  122. Gabrielle

    CL you going to be nice to the Trannie? You are dead to me. 🙂

  123. Hey, which of you went off and bad mouthed me to JF Beck?

    Anyway, I have to spend less time here, and Fran seems to have lots and lots of time to keep on the good fight in my absence. I have many, many things to do over the next couple of months, and I post less at my own [highly valued 🙂 ] blog when I get into arguments here.

  124. JC

    he’s also implying that the Soviets sent pedophiles into the Catholic church to discredit it!

    Oh goodie, another birdie conspiracy theory.

    Bird you moron, did the Sovs have a warehouse full of child molesters at the ready to be used in an emergency?

  125. JC

    Hey, which of you went off and bad mouthed me to JF Beck?

    I did. What of it? You think i should have “good mouthed” you to him?

    Anyway, I have to spend less time here

    The evidence doesn’t seem to equal your claim. You’re always hanging around like a digital fart.

    I have many, many things to do over the next couple of months,

    Yea, I’m sure you do, such as meeting up with the ATO?

  126. JC

    Steve… I notice other people are filing into Becks blog and setting him straight. I was the first commneter there, not the subsequent ones.

    If people wish to address Beck’s misapprehension about Steve, please feel free to comment here.

  127. JC

    Mumble Blog over at the OZ now equates he carbon tax proposal as the equivalent of a PM deciding to go to war.

    Did voters respond rapturously? No, the prime minister is supposed to be an authority figure, not a best friend. Voters even, sometimes, want to be told what’s good for them.

    It is not clear if gay marriage and a carbon tax are popular or not. It probably depends on the wording of the survey question, the context of a prime minister saying one thing before an election and another afterwards and a perception of the Greens calling the shots.

    But it is politically beneficial for an incumbent to do difficult things from time to time. Voters see it, eventually, as leadership.

    And Australia would look very different today if no ‘insider’ reforms had ever come to pass.

    These leftoids are going bonkers.

  128. jtfsoon

    steve is thoughtful but he isn’t really a conservative

  129. THR

    So, that’s a ‘no’ on shock and awe ‘humanitarian intervention’ in Libya:

    Sometimes no really means no.

    That’s what the British military learned today when, after a solid week of Libyan rebel leaders insisting that they didn’t want any foreign intervention in the ongoing efforts to oust long-time dictator Moammar Gadhafi, they decided a great idea would be to dispatch a unit of their special forces, the SAS, to Benghazi to “offer help.”

    The troops arrived in plain clothes and accompanied a “junior diplomat” who had ostensibly been dispatched to “establish relations” with the opposition’s leadership council. The rebels have been in control of virtually the entire eastern half of the nation plus a number of cities in the west for over a week.

    But the rebels’ troops spotted the plain clothes troops and hauled them away, worrying that public support would be damaged if they were seen as a Western-backed coup against Gadhafi, one of the chief reasons they have repeatedly spurned US and British offers of military help.

    http://leninology.blogspot.com/2011/03/humanitarian-intervention-gone-awry.html

  130. .

    There is nothing beneficial about this carbon tax. It will do bugger all for environmental outcomes and impose a new tax on top of taxes we can already barely afford. I’m saying this and I truly want emissions reduced.

    It’s not leadership. As Fran said, Parliament now runs the executive (they shouldn’t). Like the Puritans in more ways than one.

  131. .

    We ought to bomb the Libyan air force, mercenaries, and loyalist armour, ammo dumps and artillery out of existence.

    Then decapitate the leadership if it doesn’t give in to sense.

    Then we ought to hang the rotten bastard.

    We cannot have another Karbara on our hands. It would be cheap, and big and short.

  132. Gabrielle

    Bird warns us all:

    Mark Hill desperately in love and waltzing around the room with the carbon tax.

    Tribal requirements can make the carbon tax sometimes seem like the ‘love that dare not speak is name” But don’t doubt it. Mark Hills romance with the carbon tax fills his feeble heart.

  133. .

    If that’s what Bird think’s he’s illiterate.

    He thinks I am for the carbon tax because I think global warming is real.

    Let me spell it out for you Bird:

    I believe in AGW. The best way to resolve it is to deregulate industry. Taxes/ETS are not supported by a CBA. I do not support a carbon tax.

  134. jtfsoon

    my favourite Bird prose for this week is the little rant he did on Clive’s bald head. This is just beautiful

    Well you see they used to talk about “bad hair days” didn’t they? Yes they did. You may not remember but it was bad hair day this and bad hair day that, and I’m having a bad hair day and so is he she and the gay guys cat as well.

    Have you seen Clives head lately? Have you seen it Frank? Its nothing that the camera will necessarily always capture. Have you seen it?

    When you see him now, since I had that talk to him. Since I had that talk to him. Since I threw down the gauntlet. Since I presented that request …… well there’s always been something different about him.

    He gets in front of the mirror ……

    And he can wipe it with alcohol.
    He can rub moisturizer into it.
    He can use wood polish, metal polish …
    He can even get his special friends to spit on it ….

    But that head is never going to be right for a very very long long time.

  135. JC

    Have you seen Clives head lately?

    But that head is never going to be right for a very very long long time.

    lol

    He keeps referring to Happy’s gleamer. It’s hilarious.

  136. .

    How are they going to link up all of that glorious wind power?

  137. JC

    How are they going to link up all of that glorious wind power?

    Dunno. But electricity transmission lines “don’t make any sense really”, according to the Greens.

    They’re certifiably insane.

    ALP supporters … do the right thing and save yourselves. Contact your ALP reps and tell them to immediately disassociate with these lunatics.

  138. C.L.

    NSW Greens don’t believe investing in electricity transmission lines.

    They are Australia’s Amish. They and the Labor Party (BIRM) – are the first political organisation to oppose electricity since it was first harnessed by man.

  139. JC

    P

    hillip Coorey again demands deference to the Dear Leaders:

    Phil’s right. It’s not right to treat the mentally handicapped like Wayne Swan, Lurch, Christine Milne, PM Bob Brown and obscure backbencher, Gillard with rudeness.

    They should be treated with kindness and respect.

  140. C.L.

    The face of the Democrat Party:

    Just A Reminder.

  141. JC

    I thought of leaving this comment on Shiny’s blog, but it would only get him angrier at me.

    Posted on: March 6, 2011 7:16 PM, by Tim Lambert

    Shorter Clive James on Queensland floods:

    I get my climate science from poems.

    Shorter Tim Lambert on climate science.

    “I get my climate science from a NZ truffle farmer”

  142. JC

    damn it.

    I posted it there. He’ll be pissed for a day or so but will eventually get over it.

    It’s not as though I’m lying. When he’s not obsessing over Monckton, Shiny is always referring to some NZ truffle farmer in his bloc quote style writing.

  143. jtfsoon

    how short is a shorter Tim Lambert?

  144. JC

    That ought to be the last word he uses for obvious reasons.

  145. Gabrielle

    Wayne Swan incites a toppling of Australia’s dictator:

    Wayne Swan in the Labor Blog last Thursday:

    I SAY to all our members, but especially the younger amongst us that there is power at your fingertips . . . we have the ability to harness social media to bend Australia’s future in a more progressive direction and we must not waste it . . . young people are toppling dictators and establishing democracy by means that simply didn’t exist just a dozen years ago.

  146. JC

    Gab

    I think Wayne is excited because he’s recently found out about computers and shit.

  147. Gabrielle

    I think Wayne is excited because Duck Bum is in the US with Tim the grinning hairdresser.

  148. JC

    yes that Too. Wayne gets very excited when Bob allows him to say something publicly.

    I wonder what advice Stedders will be giving Mrs. O on her styling habits during spouse conversations.

  149. Gabrielle

    Swan: that wasn’t a promise and this isn’t a tax and China is taking dramatic action to reduce emissions.

  150. C.L.

    Far left dinosaur Mongo MacCallum blames Catholics for everything:

    He also lies about the undeniable intention of the territories bill, as masterminded by the Prime Minister, Bob Brown.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/44724.html

  151. Tal

    MacCallum is still alive? Opps is that a death threat?

  152. C.L.

    Yes it is, Tal. You’re worse than Oswald.

  153. C.L.

    Left-winger threatens to assassinate Governor Scott Walker and everyone around him with a bomb.

    Coverage of his arrest has been, effectively, banned by the US media.

  154. Tal

    Now that’s a death threat

  155. JC

    Catholics… Catholics… says Mungo.

    Has he still got that beard? I used to always think there was all sorts of crap growing in there- even undiscovered species. It was a veritable rain forest of old growth.

  156. .

    His brain reminds me of a coral reef. A bleached one at that.

  157. JC

    It’s that winsome smile of his below the undergrowth that manages to disarm all his detractors.

  158. Tal

    That bird is handsome though

  159. JC

    yea… nice parrot but he’s disappointed though (the parrot). He reckons all Mungo can say is Catholics, Catholics over and over again.

  160. Tal

    Well Easter is nearing Joe,Mungo must be shitting himself

  161. JC

    Shiny is going to hit the roof over this.

    Comment 1

    JC does it trouble you that New Zealand truffle farmer can trump climate denialists by citing real climate science?

    If you work as hard as Tim and Gareth you too could learn about climate science.

    Posted by: jakerman | March 6, 2011 9:14 PM

    Comment 2.

    Wasn’t JC banned from here after his psychotic episode?

    Posted by: zoot | March 6, 2011 9:18 PM

    My reply

    If you work as hard as Tim and Gareth you too could learn about climate science.

    lol…

    Yea, “lecturing” and “watching” truffles grow is forced labor.

    What episode Zoot? The reason I was banned was because I warned Shiny the Iraqi running the Lancet campaign was a Saddamista operative and his involvement would end in tears.

    I was right and Lambert has been eating old crow ever since.

    You need to lay off the reefer, you old rocker you.

    (Zoot’s an aging drummer from Perth. It must be something in the water there).

  162. jtfsoon

    anyone remember and miss Homer’s smug, dismissive tones?

    http://clubtroppo.com.au/2011/03/04/missing-link-friday-the-trouble-with-talkback-radio/#comment-426495

    Victor Trumper said:

    Apparently some people at Catallaxy still do not understand what is proposed despite devoting at least two posts to the topic.

  163. .

    W.G. Grace has gone into bat.

  164. JC

    Wow.. Shines just saw it and literally hit the roof. I can see the steam (it’s okay just water vapor) from here.

    On a personal level it’s kind of satisfying we have this sort of relationship based on respect and admiration (mine).

  165. JC

    So it’s Victor Paxton now.

  166. jtfsoon

    Wow.. Shines just saw it and literally hit the roof.

    The roof of what? A Lego-assembled house?

  167. dover_beach

    Mungo’s history of marriage during the Christian era was complete tosh.

  168. JC

    Jase..

    He just forbid me to even read his site now, so he really blew his stack after coming in from a harrowing lecture.. He’s so damned thin skinned I sometimes worry about him.

    He knows I have a ton of respect for the great work he’s doing in his field of climate science, which is basically obsessing over Monckton and block quoting from the NZ truffle farmer.

    That takes effort.

    I just wish he wouldn’t be so damned thin skinned at times.

  169. jtfsoon

    jeez, does Rudd have any real friends besides his family?

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/old-mates-fear-rudds-revival-20110305-1bj1o.html

    he former leader continues to believe he was right and everyone else was wrong, according to those once close to him.

    “Kevin doesn’t change, doesn’t learn,” a former confidante says. “He would have to admit he was wrong, and Rudd Inc can’t admit they are wrong.”
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    “Soul-searching would imply some sense of inadequacy,” a Queensland Labor figure says.

    “Kevin wouldn’t see it that way. He believes that if he remained as prime minister, he would have beaten [Tony] Abbott.”

    In Mr Rudd’s old political circles, the word “delusional” keeps cropping up. “He’s delusional enough to think that he can come back by achieving celebrity status to the point where the public is clamouring for him to return,” a former Labor MP says. “He refuses to concede defeat.”

    Others note the repeated media appearances: the multimillion-dollar purchases of a Canberra mansion and a Sunshine Coast beachhouse; the lugging of suitcases through Brisbane floodwaters in full view of the television cameras.

  170. .

    Homer’s fliping out:

    http://clubtroppo.com.au/2011/03/04/missing-link-friday-the-trouble-with-talkback-radio/#comment-426495

    W.G. Grace said:
    Apparently some people at Catallaxy still do not understand what is proposed despite devoting at least two posts to the topic.

    Please explain. Is this like your claim that the President of Senate gets a casting vote?

    Posted on 07-Mar-11 at 11:10 am | Permalink
    Victor Trumper said:
    Not my claim and it appears you still do not understand what the proposed legislation means.

    Posted on 07-Mar-11 at 11:20 am | Permalink

  171. Far left dinosaur Mongo MacCallum blames Catholics for everything

    Seems only fair. After all the Catholic dinosaurs blame the Far Left for everything.

  172. “He’s delusional enough to think that he can come back by achieving celebrity status to the point where the public is clamouring for him to return,” a former Labor MP says. “He refuses to concede defeat.”

    But remember what Keating said of Howard(Lazarus). Look what happened. You have been warned. Be afraid, be very afraid.

  173. jtfsoon

    John
    Rudd is not Howard. For all his faults Howard came across as sincere and a real human being. People aren’t going to fall for the dweeb Rudd twice.

  174. C.L.

    I don’t think the possibility of Rudd’s return is ridiculous at all. In fact, I suspect that Labor insiders know it’s now a real chance – which is why they’re suddenly making fun of the idea. Bizarre it might be, but there’s a real fondness for Rudd and if Gillard falls, he’d probably poll more strongly than either Greg Camembert or Holy Billy.

  175. C.L.

    I had to look up how to spell ‘Camembert’ and alighted on the Wiki article on cheese.

    Mmm. Cheese.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese

  176. Gabrielle

    Cheeses, CL. I gouda done without that. Hungry now.

  177. .

    Nyuk nyuk:

    http://clubtroppo.com.au/2011/03/04/missing-link-friday-the-trouble-with-talkback-radio/#comment-426654

    Victor Trumper said:
    Not my claim and it appears you still do not understand what the proposed legislation means.

    Posted on 07-Mar-11 at 11:20 am | Permalink
    W.G. Grace said:
    Trumper appears to be stumped.

    Posted on 07-Mar-11 at 11:52 am | Permalink

  178. C.L.

    “…I gouda done without that.”

    The spirit of Homer is strong today.

  179. jtfsoon

    why won’t Homer leave dead peoples’ names alone?

    Has the family of Victor Trumper been informed of this desecration of the Trumper name?

  180. jtfsoon

    oh dear
    Fyodor is asking Homer for sources. This is not going to end well. Homer will misquote everything again. Either that or ask Fyodor to check out some 1991 publication from the US Library of Congress

    http://clubtroppo.com.au/2011/03/07/how-not-to-sell-a-carbon-tax/#comment-426655

  181. JC

    No doubt Homer will come out with a 1967 Treasury publication.

  182. JC

    Wow. Even the ALP house pollsters are showing the carbon tax has gone down really well with the punters.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/well_that_lie_went_well_didnt_it/

    53 to 47.

    Is Rudd around anywhere?

  183. JC

    This tax thing is hilarious.

    Rudd got rolled because he said he was going to introduce a tax and didn’t.

    She looks like getting rolled because she said she wasn’t going to introduce a tax and did.

    This is becoming a fucking comedy routine.

  184. jtfsoon

    foRRest
    as mumnles has shiown the RRT in fact led to a boost in profits for oil companies and that spilt over into increased demand stimulus. by contract, monetary policty wqas impotent!! Gillers is heading for a landslide according to Emu and possum,

  185. C.L.

    Rudd got rolled because he said he was going to introduce a tax and didn’t.

    She looks like getting rolled because she said she wasn’t going to introduce a tax and did.

    LOL.

  186. JC

    No It’s mumbles and possum I think. Emu runs the climate change blog at Crikey. 🙂

    I was wondering if it’s at all possible to introduce Tooze and 1938 Germany/jews at the Trop without pissing off ken.

    However that would take some mighty effort I don’t think I’m at all qualified to carry out.

  187. C.L.

    Oh bullshit.

    There’s an Emu on the scene now?

  188. JC

    Really, there’s an emu on the scene? I’m really behind here.

  189. jtfsoon

    I was wondering if it’s at all possible to introduce Tooze and 1938 Germany/jews at the Trop without pissing off ken.

    Done JC. Let’s see if Homer responds to the bait

    tfsoon said:

    Homer
    I do not have a horse in this race but I dare say if your knowledge of the Australian political system is anything like your knowledge of Germany during the second world war I wouldn’t take your word for anything.

  190. C.L.

    I thought you were saying there’s a dude called Emu writing at Crikey…

    I was all set to re-name Homer’s favourite econometrics and actuarial firm.

    Mumble, Possum, Tumbler $ Emu.

  191. badm0f0

    The emu looks as though you made it up.

  192. JC

    Damn you’re quick, Bado.

  193. JC

    Good work, jase. Masterful effort.

    It’s always worthwhile just sticking a line in when you’re near water with him as he always goes for the bait.

  194. .

    He’s the ubiquitous European Carp of blogging.

  195. Tal

    Red rag to a bull Jase,that’ll keep him going for days

  196. C.L.

    Tony Abbott gets rapturous welcome in Adelaide:

    ABC reports this but adds, seething:

    The forum showed what a hot-button issue asylum seekers are – at least among the demographic that turned up to the Highway Hotel – mostly retirees who appeared to be strong Coalition supporters.

    When Gillard addresses a university get-together, does the ABC ever report…

    The forum showed what a hot-button issue asylum seekers are – at least among the demographic that turned up to the Monash refectory – mostly arts students who appeared to be strong Labor supporters.

    ?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/07/3157152.htm

  197. C.L.

    JC, more on those Essential Research results:

    Bolt has the question they pushed – er, asked – re the Rodent’s new tax:

    Do you support or oppose the Government’s recent announcement to introduce a carbon pricing scheme from 1 July 2012, which will require industries to pay a tax based on the amount of carbon pollution they emit?

    The result:

    But even Essential’s please-say-yes question got a big thumbs-down instead – 35 per cent yes to 48 per cent no.

    And this is a pro-Labor/Greens polster. FM.

  198. JC

    CL

    I bet the real feeling is 70 30 against the tax in punter land. I think there’s been a break out for the libs in the past week or so and this won’t go back to Greens/Lab Alliance.

  199. C.L.

    Tim Blair: Carbon Capers.

    Bob Brown is Kramer!

    HAHAHAHAHA.

  200. Gabrielle

    Tweets:

    EssentialPolling: Just 35% support for #CarbonTax http://j.mp/gKMcx4 Canberra press gallery have beclowned themselves yet again. #auspol

    # Grab your #popcorn & strap yourselves in; the #ALP spin begins. They’re apparently going to smear Tony Abbott, for a change. #sarc #auspol about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

    Union-funded ALP #GetUp astroturfers to hold “rally for a price on pollution”. Whaddawe want? MORE TAXES! Whendawewannem? NOW! #auspol

  201. .

    Why shouldn’t we send a task force to Lybia?

    Two subs. A frigate, destroyer, a ground attack squadron. Special forces to protect Australians and take out air defence.

    He’s bombing hospitals now.

    We should get involved in the melee. Precision strikes against material and capital but also C&C infrastructure. Then decapitation if he doesn’t acquiesce. He probably won’t because he ought to be hanged when caught.

  202. Not us Dot. Let the bloody Europeans handle this one. It is on their doorstep. Italy, they could do with a diversion from the stupidity of their current PM. Oh wait a minute, didn’t they get lost in the desert last time they tried that on? I recall ONE Brit soldier said how he captured “hundreds of ém”. Hmmm, perhaps they should stick to pizzas.

  203. .

    I see your point but being opportunistic is how you get to win friends and influence people.

  204. dover_beach

    I think the Italian armed forces are far better equipped, fed and watered nowadays, JohnH.

  205. Infidel Tiger

    Before the Italians can deploy they’ll have to ask their mum’s permission.

  206. Quentin George

    Their crapiness as a fighting force was overrated during WWII – they were hampered by poor leadership and administrative incompetence. (Mussolini demobilised half the Italian armed forces to help with the harvest).

  207. they were hampered by poor leadership and administrative incompetence. (Mussolini demobilised half the Italian armed forces to help with the harvest).

    ie. they were crappy.

  208. C.L.

    In what demonstrable way are the ‘rebels’ better than Gaddafi? We don’t know anything about them. Zip.

  209. In what demonstrable way are the ‘rebels’ better than Gaddafi? We don’t know anything about them. Zip.

    Exactly. Who are we to approach? There is no formal authority in the rebels. Once landed we are committed to staying until some type of government is established. If we leave too early we risk resurgence of chaos. Libya is more a group of tribes than a nation. Ring a bell anyone? Afghanistan … . We could no sooner help them then find they are against us. If when Goolum Gaddafi falls chaos will reign. That is the more probable outcome.

  210. .

    There is no formal authority in the rebels. Once landed we are committed to staying until some type of government is established.

    No.

  211. daddy dave

    News flash: Krugman makes sense!

    the notion that putting more kids through college can restore the middle-class society we used to have is wishful thinking. It’s no longer true that having a college degree guarantees that you’ll get a good job, and it’s becoming less true with each passing decade.

    So if we want a society of broadly shared prosperity, education isn’t the answer — we’ll have to go about building that society directly.

    He also talks about “hollowing out” – the loss of mid-range jobs along with lower and higher jobs – but this is surely an illusion of the evolving labor market.

  212. C.L.

    The moral of this story, folks, is to spring for a decent conveyance on your wedding day rather than borrowing your mate’s bitchin’ classic.

  213. JC

    Dad

    His solutions are dreadful. Appalling in fact.

    what this clown doesn’t seem to realize is that this destruction of jobs due to technology has been happening since the dawn of time and this present time is really no different to the past. Perhaps a tiny bit faster but not by much.

    New jobs are being created all the time. Were there the current large number of personal trainers 30 years ago? Life coaches and all that crap? How about personal shopping assistants? These are very recent job categories.

    I’ll tell you what job is redundant and that’s Krugman’s for being a bozo.

  214. JC

    Labor hard heads must be really fucking pissed that Brown is saying this crap.

    I reckon a serious labor split is a lot closer than we think.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the heavies give Duck Bum an ultimatum that she either closes down this so-called alliance or they walk.

  215. pete m

    quick question – anyone have solar panels for power installed and have an opinion on their worth?

    thinking of putting up a 1.8kw system to pay about half our bill – return is 4 years on investment – things should last 20 -25 years tops.

  216. JC

    Pete. Don’t even think about it. They’re going to end up removing the tariff subsidies. In fact if you could short tariff subsidies you should mortgage the house and do so. This shit won’t last.

  217. pete m

    Tariff subsidies are there to 2025. That is part of your contract with electricity supplier (NOT re-seller). It lasts until they lock in 8MgW of potential supply. We wouldn’t sign up unless that is contracted to by the generator. The minimum price is 44cpkw.

    They will likely quickly reduce to fed govt contrib to the capital cost, currently $6K and falling 20% on 1 july, which the states say is driving up power prices

    lots of politics in this one – i can’t see greens with balance of power in senate agreeing to reducing a greens program very quickly

    also i think ppl will clamour for more incentives once carbon tax follies get closer to the crunch

    no matter what it must reduce power bill given it produces power – the rest is just accelerating the return

    pete

  218. Gabrielle

    ahahahahahahahaha

    Gillard offers Labor’s “rescue plan” to the US.

    JULIA Gillard will tell America to copy Labor’s stimulus spending to escape its economic woes.

    The Labor Government’s spending program included the bungled “pink batts” roof insulation scheme, the massive Building Education Revolution fund and sending households one-off payments of $900.

    Ms Gillard will tell US business leaders to remain positive despite the country’s economic woes, which include a multi-trillion dollar debt and a government being drip-fed money by a hostile Congress.

    Her message is that while America is exceptional, it must face its problems squarely.

    I’m alternating between laughter and deep deep embarrassment.

  219. Infidel Tiger

    Fuck me, that Soviet tractor factory voiced, woodpecker has a hide. If the US wants to copy Australia’s successful GFC avoidance, they better discover a couple of billion tonnes of iron ore, coal, gold and gas.

  220. JC

    Tariff subsidies are there to 2025. That is part of your contract with electricity supplier (NOT re-seller). It lasts until they lock in 8MgW of potential supply. We wouldn’t sign up unless that is contracted to by the generator. The minimum price is 44cpkw.

    Really. It’s locked in? FMD.

  221. Gabrielle

    I can’t wait to hear the BS she’s going to spin about the carbon tax..

    “oh yeah, the Ostrilian werking fomolies are behind moi 100% on the carbin ta..price. Without a lie, yep yep industry too”.

  222. Gabrielle

    Ed Driscoll. Quote of the day from Pro-union protester to Tea Partier:

    Why do you have a right to your money?”

  223. Pedro the Ignorant

    If the military expertise of the Libyan “rebels” can be judged from the pack of clowns I just observed on a CNN report on the box, then they will be slaughtered like sheep if the real military ever decides to have a go at them.

    Dickheads blazing away into the air with AKs and handguns, some fool who couldn’t work out how to open the breech of a recoilless rifle, and another bozo standing in front of the muzzle of a heavy machine gun while his oppo hauled on the charging handle, and a whole bunch of them running round in circles and shouting as a (presumably) Government recce aircraft circled overhead.

    Darwinism in action.

  224. JC

    Pedro

    All I keep seeing is dudes with AK 47’s shooting in the air.

    I always wondered whatever happened to those bullets shot in the air?

    The answer?

    They do come down and they can kill if they hit the top of the scone.

  225. Pedro the Ignorant

    Obviously the law of gravity is different in far off sandy places, JC.

    Bullets just disappear after being fired in the air, or if they do come down and kill someone, then blame the Joooos.

  226. http://www.news.com.au/national/hockey-backs-quota-for-women-on-boards/story-e6frfkw0-1226017392215

    Is there any part of running a business that Joe Hockey doesn’t want to interfere with? Why is he even in the Liberal party?

  227. Peter Patton

    Gab

    At least Big Kim’s looking fit and tan on that piccie with Gillers. Maybe he’s doing a good job over there? At least Shirley Maclaine must be feeling safer.

  228. Peter Patton

    I am not indulging in any sexist ‘lookism’ here, but is the Prime Minister’s physique on a very unusual/unique trajectory? Is she changing in only one place? Her bottom growing – Dorian Gray like – outward, perhaps with each new lie? I do worry about the implications for her lower back.

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