The attack on Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott is front page news here on Drudge via The Daily Mail. Merely for the present as an outside observer, I must tell you my disgust is unbounded. We tend not to jail such people, but that is in the way of more fool us than anything.
My airplane book coming over was Saul Alinksky’s Rules for Radicals which I probably read when it was first released and no doubt at the time, thought he made a lot of sense. Well, I still think he makes a lot of sense. But now that I have joined the middle class and am no longer amongst the OWS crowd, I find his genius in the ability to stage various stunts, some of which work to “expose” “the estabilishment” and some of which do not, but all of which are driven towards a nihilistic destruction of our way of life.
So in Canberra yesterday. There are no positives to come out of this for anyone that I can see. But who is to say what value will ultimately be derived for those who attempt to assault our Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition, people whose good will for Aborignal people is exemplary and undoubted.
The left’s thesis, expounded month after month in recent times, is that “hate speech” and the “hate media” directly cause acts of political violence.
I would therefore encourage those who have been ceaseless in their hatred for Tony Abbott to apologise.
Ditto, the ABC and Fairfax.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 1:44 am
The left’s thugs will never receive the same treatment. They are always fighting for a cause that’s just and good of course, so it makes sense to attack the PM and the opposition leader.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 1:48 am
I don’t think that anybody actually tried to assault either politician. All that I saw in footage was policemen trying to assault protesters. And there is really no good reason to think that either Gillard or Abbott has some kind of ‘goodwill’ toward Aborigines. Both use Aborigines as little more than political air hockey.
THR
27 Jan 12 at 2:10 am
THR. That is complete bullshit. How about I come round to your house with a couple of my friends and we bang on your windows and chant for an hour or so? I’m sure you’ll agree that the real problem is that the police may take us away. ‘There is really no good reason…’ – there is really no good reason for you to come to this conclusion. Take your moral equivalency elsewhere – you’re full of it.
skeptic
27 Jan 12 at 2:14 am
Bullshit, skeptic. Both Gillard and Abbott are all too happy to use Aborigines as props for PR stunts. Both have done it repeatedly. As for the protesters – if you believe in liberty, you should also believe in the right of people to protest, even if you disagree with this or that specific protest.
THR
27 Jan 12 at 2:17 am
And banking on windows. THR?
JC
27 Jan 12 at 2:30 am
If you believe in liberty, you should also believe in the right of people to protest, even if you disagree with this or that specific protest.
Even in America, where free speech/free assembly are embedded in the Constitution, there are limits. For instance, the Supremes upheld the Westboro nutters’ Constitutional right to protest at military funerals, but they have to stay a certain distance away. They’re not allowed to get in peoples’ faces, because at that point their right to free speech & peaceable assembly would be trampling on the mourners’ rights.
If the Teaparty had done similar to Pelosi, or the KKK to Obama, or the anti carbontax protesters to Bob Brown or S H-Y, I have trouble believing you lot would be so quick to shrug it off.
spot
27 Jan 12 at 2:31 am
-from THR.
FMD. Unbelievable. How can you deny what is in front of your face?
All I saw was a look of absolute terror on the face of the PM and a bodyguard doing his best to get her away from a violent mob.
Pedro the Ignorant
27 Jan 12 at 2:48 am
Because it serves the purpose.
I really find it preposterous how some people are convinced they know and can predict the actions of an angry violent mob.
Clairvoyants, they are. Hey, how about predicting lotto numbers? C’mon, share.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 2:52 am
And so it begins.
Remember when those ‘climate scientists’ were “rushed to a secure location” over some emails?
They weren’t, of course. The ABC made it up.
But Australian lefties all jumped on the bandwagon.
Now Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott are literally rushed to a secure location to protect them from a racist hate mob and lefties are saying (of course) that it didn’t happen.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:05 am
Bolt: So who to blame this time for the “climate of hate”?
Tony Abbott, of course.
Sigh.
spot
27 Jan 12 at 3:12 am
Hey, Bob Brown, Tony Windsor, Rob Oakeshott and the Sydney Morning Herald told me…
Well, they told me that if we became blasé about hate speech and ugly mob behaviour, we could find ourselves like America – with its race violence and attacks on political leaders, including female ones like Gabby Giffords.
And they were right!
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:15 am
Well that’s it then. Feel free to get a mob of 200 together, surround THR’s house and bang on the windows for half an hour. See how he feels about “legitimate protest” then.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 3:22 am
Just for the record the Canberra Catallaxy Collective is having it’s BBQ of hate tomorrow. It wasn’t us!
I was in the pool at a friends place drinking beer when the kids told us there was a riot and Gillard had to be rescued. We couldn’t believe it.
A disgrace. Why do the so called empathetic have to ruin all the days the majority hold dear?
Nearly everyone I know in Canberra want the tent embassy eyesore removed. Most of those people are Lefties.
John Comnenus
27 Jan 12 at 3:56 am
The problem is not Aborigines; it is our government of privileged minorities. Every day it sits, it reinforces that all are not equal in this country.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 4:11 am
Ah, the rules of dissent according our media and academy:
Protest is only legitimate if it promotes Leftist views.
Only the right ‘intimidate’. The Left “express concern”.
In moral and legal terms no Leftists are responsible for their actions or capable of controlling them: any disagreement is always illegitimate provocation.
Removal of a Leftist’s undeserved privileges is “disrespect”. Removal of a conservative’s earned assets is “social justice”.
Jasbo
27 Jan 12 at 7:20 am
“Both use Aborigines as little more than political air hockey.”
In fact you, THR, are using ‘aborigines’ as footballs – objectified debating categories – right here by this patronising dehumanising reference, your heavy-handed attempt to speak for them, as if they can’t speak for themselves.
Stop patronising and racially categorising!
bruce
27 Jan 12 at 7:38 am
That looked to me like a failed police strategy. Surely there was a back entrance they could have been whisked away from that wouldn’t have caused those ugly scenes. Running the gauntlet just made the whole thing much worse. Australian police are often boof-headed and heavy-handed in such situations.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 8:01 am
This is what happens when you start treating someone differently. A certain part of this community now understand that they can say whatever they want, do whatever they want (legal or illegally) and we will not procedd with charges in upkeeping the law. They have become above the law. And in response teh government will probably blame Abbott and increase funding even more.
The hardworking Aborigines have realised for a long time, as long as the governments continue to treat the Aborigines as “special” children nothing will cjange
George K
27 Jan 12 at 8:27 am
Everyone should apologise to the Emergency Care workers who were being awarded medals
hzhousewife
27 Jan 12 at 8:48 am
No, it is the culture of indulgence that exists for the privileged minorities. They believe they are beyond the law in all ways.
There is an esculating culture of violence on the left as it reflected by the LP, Pure Poison set and regularly shown at the Cat by that big mouth sociopath THR.
I have heard regularly privately and in public by police who are expert in this field that the indulgence of the minorities has lead to the culture of esculating violence. As they commit these crimes they then rationalise the actions, thus believing they can excede it on the next occassion.
It is only a matter of time that a total whack job spouting the rubbish THR carries on about commits an act of political violence.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 8:50 am
Et tu M0nty?
Lefties always blame the police…
Token
27 Jan 12 at 8:51 am
The main failure was that they didn’t arrest anyone. If the PM’s in danger then the security personnel have to act and they’re trained to do so. If Gillard or Abbott were embarrassed by the way they were evacuated then stiff shit, that’s part of the job of being a statesman. That the AFP percieved a serious threat and then didn’t act afterwards to arrest anyone validates what George K says above – Aborigines are treated like children and act like children.
Greego
27 Jan 12 at 8:52 am
… commits an act of political violence, leading to a serious wounding or death of another politician like John Newman.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 8:53 am
Hey John, can someone please email the address? I’ve got a bottle of single malt just waiting to be shared but no place to go…
Oh, and THR, you are beyond belief. Those events yesterday were a fucking disgrace. No ifs, no buts…how in the hell is this the cops fault?
Skuter
27 Jan 12 at 9:12 am
Skuter
Can you try and keep Rabz off the booze. I recall last time he was drunk for 48 hours.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 9:14 am
THR:
The key words here are “I don’t think”. The footage shows an increasing level of violence from a rabble of ‘activists’ who were deliberately disrupting a politically bipartisan award ceremony for emergency workers. Personal protection details are very, very well trained and their judgement is to be trusted more than a communist and apologist for violence is.
But that’s all you ever see and all you ever say. You have form – the Melbourne occupy dole-bludgers for example. And ‘trying to assault’? Oh please. The only footage I saw of a policeman striking a protester was the one who was trying to disarm an armed protester – you could hear him saying ‘drop the spear’.
In the case of Gillard, you are correct and that’s no criticism of her. She’s from an inner city left-wing trade union background. She’s never done anything in her life in terms of volunteer community work out of sight of the media.
But Abbott? Boy, as you ignoring the facts. The bloke has, for years, quietly done volunteer work in remote aboriginal communities! Y’reckon he has no goodwill towards aborigines when he’s been doing that (out of sight of the cameras) for years? Doing volunteer work like that means what, then, according to your lights?
That’s an appallingly racist statement. it’s also factually incorrect. Gillard probably does – her involvement with remote aboriginal communities is the usual politician’s FiFo photo opportunity. Abbot, however, does a lot of volunteer work in such communities. He’s the one with a proven record of putting his time and effort in, here.
You have placed your lefty memes are on display, here. They are:
- the left-wing activist protesters ‘din do nuffins’
- the cops are to blame for everything
- both politicians don’t care about Aborigines (when at elast one patently does)
- The usual left-wing narcissism of “Look at me! Look at me!! I care about aborigines”
- The usual howling leftist racism against Aboriginies – your post has the oleaginous stench of the left’s soft racism of low expectations.
Mk50 of Brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 9:16 am
That’s pathetic mOnty. Don’t start double guessing what the police could have done unless you know the design of the restaurant, the access roads around it, where the protesters were, where they were coming from, and whether they were showing any inclination at all to obey police. (I think we can be pretty sure on the last point, though.)
THR’s take on this is also utterly indefensible. The Channel Nine footage shows best the concerns that led to this, especially Abbott’s observation that it probably wouldn’t take much for a glass window/wall to be smashed.
I would say (even at risk of now breaking my own reprimand of mOnty), that the “gauntlet was run” because the police were very concerned about the PM and Abbott being surrounded by an angry mob, an essentially uncontrollable situation, if they tried to walk in a normal way to the waiting vehicles.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 9:18 am
JC, I’m a libertarian. Rabz has choices!
Skuter
27 Jan 12 at 9:19 am
Skuter I will get Rabz to send us a text msg and put out an email. What sort of single malt?
John Comnenus
27 Jan 12 at 9:35 am
Brownie point, Stevie. I will not insult you for twenty-four hours.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
27 Jan 12 at 9:43 am
The singleton – from Glen Ord…never tried it before…
Skuter
27 Jan 12 at 9:44 am
Why should they use a back entrance?
Just heard Lyle Munro interviewed re: the tent embassy. Munro is a racist with inchoate discontent and complete antipathy to the hand which feeds him; and therein lies the problem; aboriginals should be equal; right now they are not with every advantage given to them; that positive discrimination should be removed immediately, including land rights.
At the end of Munro’s list of demands was the sole attempt at justification; he was here first.
So what? I’ve had several skin cancers cut out but I don’t think the first was better or deserving of any special treatment.
Being here first; what a ridiculous argument. But of course inherent in that is the assumption that aboriginal culture is superior to the invading white culture. We have seen this view enforced through countless insidious left treatises on the relative merits of aboriginal and white culture, most recently with Gammage’s fanciful proposal that the aborigines deliberately created a continental estate conducive to their minimal lifestyle which, we are repeatedly told, is more in tune with nature.
Well, that is bullshit. We had a stone-age hunting and gathering culture which changed the landscape to the extent of its limited technology and was then insulated by an exceptionally long geologically and climatically stable environment.
Eventually the dream had to end; people like Munro, who are nothing more than nihilists and anarchists, are using the perpetuated myth of aboriginal culture to give a legitimacy to their ratbaggery; the problem is that the left have given into this and it has been allowed to fester to what it is now.
cohenite
27 Jan 12 at 9:50 am
“Surely there was a back entrance they could have been whisked away from that wouldn’t have caused those ugly scenes.”
The restaurant was surrounded. This means the the angry mob was all the way around the building. It was confined on all sides. Hope this explains the concept of “surrounded” to you.
The only ones causing the “ugly scenes” were the angry mob.
Not the police, not Gillard, not Abbott, all of whom were reacting to the ugly angry mob.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 9:52 am
Let’s not blame Aborigines for this. From what I could see of the footage, plus that lovely specimen of a man triumphantly holding up Julia Gillard’s shoe as a trophy afterwards, the rabble doing the intimidation were pretty much white, though if you said so publicly you’d probably be taken to court.
So who is really ‘using Aborigines as little more than political air hockey’ ?
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 9:52 am
This was not a “protest”. A protest is non-violent. If you close the doors on a restaurant, trapping someone inside, you are being violent, even if you don’t touch their bodies. It is clear from the look on the prime minister’s face, and from the reactions of the security forces and the prime minister inside and outside the restaurant that this was violent.
And the really biggest thing that makes this not a protest, not an exercise of free speech, that makes this repugnant and appalling and which means every Australian ought to oppose it: it amounted to treason.
Criminal Code Act 1995 Schedule: The Criminal Code
Subdivision B—Treason
80.1 Treason.
(1) A person commits an offence if the person:
…
(c) causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister, or imprisons or restrains the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or …
Penalty: Imprisonment for life.
Alexander
27 Jan 12 at 9:54 am
I was thinking the same thing, Alexander. Some skulls should have been broken, at least.
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 9:59 am
In fact, if someone is in danger of physically attacking our PM or GG, the police should have been justified in opening fire.
The fact that we let them get away with this is a national disgrace.
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 10:02 am
No, papachango, that is not right; Eatock v Bolt [2011] FCA 1103 (28 September 2011) has now shown us that colour of skin is not the imprimateur of aboriginality; the operative criteria is the capacity to have hurt feelings when the largess dished out to those claiming aboriginality regardless of colour are criticised.
cohenite
27 Jan 12 at 10:10 am
I thought it was riot and affray Alexander although close to treason.
Although this might be a quick, legal and fair way to end the tent embassy.
.
27 Jan 12 at 10:12 am
It was one thing if they were standing outside holding their placards and some of them were a bit rowdy and swearing or shouting.
What they actually did would have put a reasonable person in fear of their bodily integrity. That is an assault. also arguably restraint.
I don’t understand why we aren’t sending in the troops with tear gas and cuffing those bastards. This is a national embarrassment. it shows us as having a soft touch on national security
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 10:21 am
Skuter,
sounds good. Am looking forward to it.
John Comnenus
27 Jan 12 at 10:24 am
Not only Abbott but another person who should be charged for “inciting racial riots“:
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:28 am
For an additional twist: Did Barbara Shaw get the initial heads up from Gillard’s spin shop?
lotocoti
27 Jan 12 at 10:30 am
It’s not Tahrir or Tianenmen Square, ffs. Get a grip, Jason.
The cops overegged the pudding, not surprising given their recent record. The only physical stuff that happened to the PM’s party was that shaved ape in a suit manhandling the PM herself.
The real idiot here is whoever thought it would be a good idea to hold a function with both Gillard and Abbott on Australia Day within cooee of the tent embassy.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 10:31 am
Well JFT we already know we are a soft touch on national security. We have virtually open borders too.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
27 Jan 12 at 10:31 am
This is what we call the “lie down and let them rape you” mentality.
.
27 Jan 12 at 10:32 am
Monty, I’m not suggesting anyone should have opened fire that day. Only that the situation was perilously close to becoming that kind of development, was in that kind of category, and shouldn’t be dismissed lightly as just a protesting getting out of hand,
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 10:32 am
And the home ground advantage doesn’t always work! And now a larger group of people own the fucking country. That’s what they need to understand.
Ooh Honey Honey
27 Jan 12 at 10:35 am
Thankfully, we don’t have a culture that breeds political assassins in this country. Authorising police to shoot protestors should be the absolute last resort, only when they see an actual gun being drawn. Say what you like about the tent embassy yobbos, but I don’t think they’re packing heat.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 10:36 am
They could charge that Eatock woman for stealing the PM’s shoe for starters, but they won’t of course.
Andreas
27 Jan 12 at 10:37 am
I can’t believe no one was arrested.
What a bunch of softcock cops .
Monster, go away and stop annoying people from fue start of the
morning.
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 10:38 am
Thank you. It was a mob, nothing more nothing less. And look at how the left here defends it.
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 10:38 am
Ah yes, another person who can predict how an angry mob will behave. Perhaps the AFP could use your clairvoyant services.
Because it’s their fault the Abo activists turned into an angry mob targeting the PM and the Opp Leader.
Okay to summmarise.
The rioters are blamless;
This was Abbott’s fault;
The situation escalated becuase the police executed their duty by protecting the PM and MP, hence they’re at fault also;
The person who chose the venue for awarding heros is at fault.
The real idiot here is the one who cannot (or perhaps it’s dare not)lay responsibility at the feet of those who acted as an angry mob of misfits intent on making a statement.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:41 am
They defend them because Coulter is right. Leftism is basically rule of the mob.
Look how monster sides with them
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 10:42 am
This from a man who, according to his own statements in the slutwalking thread last May, has helped cops run self-defence courses in which women are encouraged to “minimise risk”.
Dot, the person who organised that event did not do their duty in minimising risk. That was a risky venue. That doesn’t excuse what the protestors did, but it also doesn’t excuse the organiser for being an idiot.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 10:44 am
The bastard!
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:48 am
To make it clear, I am not excusing what the protestors did. It was wrong. I’ve been to the tent embassy, I’ve seen how it works. Weed, grog, it’s all there and it fuels anger and aggro. It’s a political open sore that’s been festering for far too long. Another example of the unfinished business that is aboriginal policy.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 10:48 am
monty if you can’t tell the difference between personal safety and organising a public event, you’re a dropkick.
.
27 Jan 12 at 10:49 am
M0nty, wake up and get serious or piss off! You are being more stupid than normal. These events were a disgrace and should be condemned by any reasonable person. There’s NO excuse for that crap. None whatsoever…
Skuter
27 Jan 12 at 10:49 am
LOL, Monty Python instead of m0nty.
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 10:51 am
You make a good case for it to “move on”, Monty.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 10:51 am
And yet, and yet, you are the master of threat assessment and have decided the police overreacted. I urge you to call this number pronto.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:51 am
You must be fucking kidding me, you do even know where the “tent embassy” (which is not actually a “tent”) is don’t you? Have you ever even been to Canberra? It’s right across the road from Old Parliament House m0nty – a five to ten minute walk from everything of importance in Canberra.
A new low there m0nty as you suggest that the Prime Minister should avoid the Capital City of the country in order to not come under attack by a baying mob.
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 10:53 am
Equally, others are double guessing that there were no other options. There are almost always other options.
Apart from anything else, if there were no other options, that is a complete failure in planning by the cops given the location. Some harsh words will be spoken today in meetings by men in blue shirts and funny hats.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 10:53 am
The “other” option is to arrest all of this mob for affray.
.
27 Jan 12 at 10:55 am
Perhaps monty is right. The angry mob surrounded the restaurant so really the cops should have got shovels and dug a tunnel for their escape.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:56 am
twostix – hence why I referred to the idea as the “lie down and let them rape you” option.
monty thinks as a matter of personal safety, the PM should have done the ceremony in the Alexander Maconochie Centre.
.
27 Jan 12 at 10:58 am
The cops may not have been counting on the effect of a game of “chinese whispers” that led to it.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 11:01 am
As I said upthread, yes I have.
The Lobby restaurant is barely 100 metres away from the embassy, on the next block over, within direct eyesight. Surely they could have chosen somewhere that’s not within a 20-second stagger? On Australia Day, a.k.a. Invasion Day, when the tent embassy folk would be even more aggro than usual? It doesn’t excuse the protestors, as I said, but it was a major planning failure as well.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 11:02 am
monty
The PM of Australia should be able to have her lunch *in* the fricking Tent embassy without fear of molestation if she so chooses. She is the head of the government.
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 11:05 am
Good Lord, the ABC is defending Abbott!
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 11:07 am
LOL, the credo of Occupy Wall Street comes to the Cat to defend liberty. The PM’s shoe is on the other foot now!
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 11:09 am
M0nty,
Why do these ‘protesters’ have the right to deny Abbott and Gillard freedom of association? The Lobby is a couple hundred meters from the druggies and drug dealing that occurrs at the ‘embassy’. Why does the embassy get to break the laws of the land and deny democratic international human right to freedom of association? It’s one relaxed law for self described aboriginals and another law for everyone else. It’s set aside public property for aboriginals not open to everyone else. That is apartheid Monty. Anyone supporting apartheid is racist scum.
John Comnenus
27 Jan 12 at 11:11 am
monty,
Let me remind you
“A person commits an offence, called treason, if the person:
(c) causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister, or imprisons or restrains the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister;”
Catch up to 88mph because this is some serious shit.
.
27 Jan 12 at 11:12 am
Correct Jason! Where we’re the cops?
Woolfe
27 Jan 12 at 11:12 am
Abbott and Gillard were associating with unfettered freedom inside the Lobby, John.
Anyone can go and stand with the crusties at the tent embassy. It’s a free country.
Don’t be so silly.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 11:14 am
Dot, grow up.
m0nty
27 Jan 12 at 11:14 am
can’t believe that Eatcock woman is still parading around with Gillard’s shoe with impunity
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 11:17 am
LOL Mark Murtrie called and asked if monty could be their spokesperson:
Both of them need glasses.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 11:17 am
Right. I’m not allowed to make a pop culture referece.
You think the PM should have less rights than the welfare dependent bludgers of an imaginary embassy.
Everything you’ve said here is fucking nonsense. Even steve finds your ideas repulsive.
.
27 Jan 12 at 11:18 am
Um?
or imprisons or restrains the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister
You muppet.
.
27 Jan 12 at 11:19 am
You’re such an oaf monster. Just an oaf.
How much lower can you defending the tent scum?
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 11:21 am
Clearly the woman who incited the riot should be charged for what is an undoubted crime.Also,the encampment should be cleared if other people cannot hold a function near it.
Incidentally,have you noticed that we are not talking about Albo today?
Tom Valentine
27 Jan 12 at 11:21 am
Oh shit. What that Pat Eatock holdinbg the shoe? I’d better retract my previous reference to a ‘fine specimen of a man’, as well as any suggestion I might have directly or indirectly made that she is anything less than fully, 100% Aboriginal.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 11:23 am
This eatcock woman is such a piece of work.
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 11:24 am
oh shit, Eatock, not Eatcock
I can’t blame my iPad
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 11:25 am
So M0nty should they have not gone to the Hyatt or the Ginger room at Old Parliament house either?
Tell us m0nty what’s the minimum radius around the “Tent Embassy” that promininet politicians of this country are allowed to go to without being mobbed.
Also give us an idea of (if you were a public servant) how you would tell fellow public servants that it’s a bad idea to have an event at The Lobby Hotel on Australia Day because it’s “within staggering distance” of the aboriginal tent embassy.
What would you say? I’d love to know!
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 11:25 am
No it’s eatcock , not eatock
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 11:26 am
Thank Gaia they didn’t choose the Pork Barrel Cafe for the awards presentation.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 11:29 am
Hop pat Eatock doesn’t read catalllaxy. With all these freudian mispellings of her name, questioning of her gender and aboriginality, I can see a lawsuit and a judgment by Mordy B coming on.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 11:29 am
Mont,
Gillard and Abbott were not able to associate freely. In case you missed the footage Mont they were run out of the place by a violent unruly mob. My point is that they should be able to meet at the Lobby and do whatever they want, in this case recognize the contribution of emergency services people. And I dont care how offended aboriginals are, Gillard and Abbott should be allowewd to go anywhere they want on public land. Given that Old Parliament House is closer to the tent embassy than the lobby, does that mean Abbott and Gillard can’t go there either? It is approximately the same distance from the embassy to the Lobby as it is from the embassy to the national archive office. Does that mean Abbott and Gillard can’t go there? Or what about the High Court? a similar distance. Why is the embassy and it’s inhabitants allowed to do things I would be put in jail for (drug dealing – attacking the PM)?
The answer is because you support different laws for different people based on the colour of their skin. You support different rights of access to public property based on race. You would have been right at home in Soweto 30 years ago.
John Comnenus
27 Jan 12 at 11:39 am
Her? Thought it was a bloke. Really it’s a woman?I’ll be dammed.
And I also thought it was spelt eatcock. I have to front mordy for a misspelling, surely not.
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 11:40 am
I didn’t see one genuinely black person in the footage yesterday.
Amongst the genuine Aborigines that Gillard and Abbott sometimes visit (usually Abbott – Australia’s most Aborigine-friendly political leader), there is always a lot of respect and even deference.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 11:40 am
And to repeat: who was in charge of Gillard’s security yesterday?
Fredo Corleone?
This is an ugly world and stuff can go down very quickly – even in sleepy Australia.
She seemed to have only two personal protection officers. Abbott had none (and no car).
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 11:43 am
Being called out of a restaurant by a screaming mob of two hundred people who have surrounded the place and are bashing on the windows is all good.
Just your everyday peaceful leftist protest.
Nothing like those nasty brutish violent carbon tax protesters and their mean signs.
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 11:44 am
Gillard giving speech at another awards ceremony for heroes. Hope Eatock doesn’t “return” Gillard’s shoe in the time honoured tradition.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 11:45 am
That Lobby place must serve uncovered meat. The Tent Embassy denizens couldn’t help themselves.
skeptic
27 Jan 12 at 11:46 am
mOnty, what you’re effectively doing is the same as those who like to argue along the lines “well, of course rape is always wrong, but really, women who don’t dress sensibly on certain public roads at night just aren’t being sensible.” Except in your case, it’s more like “women with body guards and the local police on call still just have to be sensible about where they go, in case someone 100 m way has an issue with them.”
I have a problem with those arguments re rape as being too close to excuse making, and refused to join in the ridicule of the “slutwalks” for this reason. Same thing goes for you and your armchair theorising that the police must have been able to get her a better way, and that whoever it was who chose the Lobby as a venue for a matter unrelated to aboriginal issues were somehow wrong.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 11:51 am
Concealed carry laws would have taken some heat out of yesterday’s idiocy.
Infidel Tiger
27 Jan 12 at 11:54 am
Yes I thought so too. But thats enough to land us in the dock these days JC. As for the misspelling, Bolt got done for some ‘factual errors’ that were about as trivial as a spelling mistake, as well as the ‘general tone’ of his comments.
On that latter score, JC, if they called you up, you’d be fucked.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 11:56 am
Oh dear.
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 11:57 am
In an interview on Triple M this morning Michael Anderson accused Tony Abbott of pushing Julia Gillard down the stairs as they were being evacuated by the police. The man’s a complete fuckwit.
Greego
27 Jan 12 at 12:03 pm
Michael Anderson. He was the idiot yesterday bleating loudly to one and all that Abbott’s comment was nothing short of “inciting racial riot”.
Moron.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 12:05 pm
our Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition, people whose good will for Aborignal people is exemplary and undoubted.
I’m afraid I have the most sincere doubts about the PM and OL’s goodwill. And I have no idea on what basis you can call such alleged goodwill exemplary. It’d be a sad world if the technocratic quick-fix and under the carpet brushwork of Australian politicians toward indigenous issues was the best of its kind.
But hey, it is a sad world. So maybe you’re right.
Adrien
27 Jan 12 at 12:06 pm
“The man’s a complete fuckwit.”
Which reminds me, Jack Waterfors in the Canberra Times, front page, Abbott was grinning at Gillard when she tripped and that police used Gillard as a battering ram.
Another whackjob.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 12:08 pm
Tony Abbott serving as a community worker and schools truent officer in remote Aboriginal townships, Adrien – with no cameras allowed. On his holidays.
No good will, you say. Nothing exemplary, you say.
When was the last time you did something like that?
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 12:10 pm
Papa
Judge mordy seems to really hate spelling mistakes.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 12:13 pm
Adrien – you can certainly criticise both Liberal and Labor’s actual policies on Aboriginal matters, but I don’t think it’s controversial to say that both TA and JG have goodwill towards them.
I certainly don’t see any evidence that either of them are in any way anti-Aboriginal.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 12:13 pm
just be careful JC is all i’m sayin’ – they’ll eaither come after you or use it as an excuse to shut down blogs with anonymous commenting.
Sucha re the times we live in.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 12:15 pm
Bob Carr blogs support for Abbott, says tents should have been packed up years ago, calls Eatock a “clown.”
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 12:16 pm
The account at En Passent presses all the standard buttons.
Jacques Chester
27 Jan 12 at 12:18 pm
Eatock not just a clown but a thief:
http://www.vexnews.com/2012/01/stop-thief-aboriginal-activist-plans-to-steal-pms-shoe-and-sell-it-after-tent-embassy-rampage/
Ivan Denisovich
27 Jan 12 at 12:19 pm
Hey Jacques, blog master and guru.
Can you ban thread YouTube embeds?
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 12:19 pm
Is m0nstrosity off his meds or something…?
sean
27 Jan 12 at 12:19 pm
Actual Judge Maudy created a new legal race – the White Aborigine – which very much focuses on skin colour.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 12:23 pm
Any hot chicks at this BBQ?
I hate Canberra but I’m stuck here at the moment.
New Gold Dream
27 Jan 12 at 12:24 pm
been a while since I read Passant. The man is completely loopy, but I didn’t realise he was Aboriginal too.
One of the bizarre thiongs about Passant is he’s a real old-school Marxist-Leninist. his language is from the 70s, and he has no truck with the enviornmental movement, which in his vew just diverts the cause of leftists from their true aim, which should be a revolutionary overthrow of capitalism.
It seems bizaree, therefore, that he would take up the Aboriginal cause, since, like the green movement, is a fashionably new cause of the left.
Old-school commies like him traditionally didn’t give a stuff about minority groups – see the Soviets and their treatment of ethnic minorities in the USSR.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 12:26 pm
Australia is such an egalitarian society that even the Prime Minister gets rolled for her shoes. What a country!
Fleeced
27 Jan 12 at 12:26 pm
Passant is nuts and unpredictable. Once he came out in defence of whaling by the Japs. That put him in my good books for a while.
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 12:29 pm
CL – No good will, you say. Nothing exemplary, you say.
Yes I admit, it is exemplary. Excellent PR, no cameras means he’s, like, so sincere. And also we don’t get to see how uncomfortable he really is in that situation.
When was the last time you did something like that?
I’m not being written of as bearing exemplary goodwill am I? Are you seriously suggesting that in order to cast aspersions on Steve’s rather hyperbolous praise of two pretty ordinary politicians I have to display the virtues I suspect them of not having? Your hypocrisy is breathtaking sometimes.
Papa I certainly don’t see any evidence that either of them are in any way anti-Aboriginal.
Well I didn’t say they were bigots, I just didn’t especially appreciate the sycophancy of the sentence I quoted. It’s bullshit. I don’t think either Gillard or Abbott have done anything exemplary at all let alone in the tangle of thorns that is indigenous policy. I call bullshit.
And I had no evidence that either of them was anti-Aboriginal. Nor did I suspect such.
Until Currency Lad told me Tony Abbott worked up there as a truant officer with no cameras.
Adrien
27 Jan 12 at 12:32 pm
my quick summation of all retards of a similar bent is the following two words going into a sentence and replacing a rational arguement when it comes to the fundamentals of their positions which they lack the intellectual tools to defend:
Good – Progressive
Bad – Reactionary
sean
27 Jan 12 at 12:32 pm
What, Gillard lost a shoe ?
Call a farrier, stat!
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 12:33 pm
I look forward to odium being unleashed by the left on the person responsible for misrepresenting Mr Abbots words thus inflaming the situation.
Jusat like they did against Allan Jones and the Convoy crew after they
went on a rampageheld a peacful protest at parliment house.Or Albo the gap toothed rat coming out for a quick verbal insult before slurking back into his warren.
thefrollickingmole
27 Jan 12 at 12:35 pm
Is this right… that tent thingi or its variant has been there for 40 years ?
JC
27 Jan 12 at 12:35 pm
What Abbott should have said…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
skeptic
27 Jan 12 at 12:39 pm
whoops – that was supposed to be just a link not an embed – my bad
skeptic
27 Jan 12 at 12:39 pm
fine performance by Fyodor against conrad who appears to have gone all pomo and PC
http://clubtroppo.com.au/2012/01/26/an-overheard-bus-conversation-recounted-without-comment/#comment-462922
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 12:40 pm
I believe so JC. It would be racist to move them on apparently. I’m not sure if they fed them some line about Parliament house being on sacred land..
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 12:41 pm
John Key and Helen Clarke also experienced rough handling at Waitangi Day celebrations in NZ. And they’ve got a treaty. Same kid gloves treatment, same result.
http://newshopper.sulekha.com/nz-leader-jostled-by-indigenous-protester_news_1032000.htm
Viva
27 Jan 12 at 12:41 pm
Adrien
There is no MP in the current parliament, or any in my life time, whose words and deeds have been as pro-Aborigine than Tony Abbott.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 12:42 pm
The real story here is that the police leader paraded in front of cameras to nonchalantly announce no arrests etc and our PM who made nothing of it.
To add insulkt to injury, Tony Abbott was blamed yet again.
It’s actually a disgrace that leftist thugs are given a pass to behave like animals.
And insofar as failure of Aboriginal health and success these animals – their leaders- are to blame
Our PM failed ‘cos she’s a leftist too, the police ‘cos he was trained in the Christine Blubber Nixon school of Police as Community Organisers
JamesK
27 Jan 12 at 12:43 pm
Once again, yesterday’s incitement to treason came from middle-class white people who have been using and abusing the Aborigines – when they aren’t just plain getting rich by exploiting them – since the 1960s.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 12:44 pm
As I said yesterday, the cops should have used water canons and then arrested the leaders for treason, before razing the insulting eyesore of humpies.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 12:48 pm
Rent-a-riot incited by the ALP…?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/reports-the-prime-ministers-office-encouraged-protesters-to-target-tony-abbott-over-tent-embassy/story-fn59niix-1226255195987
sean
27 Jan 12 at 12:49 pm
Adrien, you partisan hack – there was no coverage of Abbott’s work in Aboriginal communities.
And if we’re so racist, it wouldn’t be excellent PR anyway, would it?
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 12:52 pm
Wo.
Hold everything…
Reports the Prime Minister’s office encouraged protesters to target Tony Abbott over tent embassy.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 12:56 pm
SNAP.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 12:57 pm
Adrien – you are holding Abbot to a ridiculous double standard.
If that Australian story is true, Gillard must be sacked.
.
27 Jan 12 at 1:01 pm
Could explain her generosity in offering Tone a lift.
She realised she was in deep shit.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 1:04 pm
The Australian’s story — and the lack of an immediate response — strongly suggests to me the involvement of a skilled media orchestra conductor.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 1:13 pm
Paul Sheehan profiles one of the poor victims oppressed by the fascist police who caused the violence (who are so soft they will not press charges).
Token
27 Jan 12 at 1:15 pm
Yeah Abbott was doing that stuff years ago, when he was a lowly minister in the Howard government. There was no publicity at the time.
wreckage
27 Jan 12 at 1:16 pm
As Albo says, “D’oh”
Fairfax has decided they would spin the disaster to be triumph for the PM – Did the real Julia come out in the Australia Day fracas?
Get the hankies out, this sounds so sweet…
Unfortunately it seems like it is just another blunder the ABC & Fairfax will be working hard to sweep under the carpet…
D’oh. Ok, move on, nothing to see here.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 1:18 pm
We should have fucking known the Liar’s Party was in on it.
I told you guys yesterday that if you look at the vid, you’ll see the lying slapper searching for the camera on two occasions
1. when the security boffin suggested it was time to leave and
2. when she suggested they should offer Abbott a ride.
There’s always a fucking angle with these union clerks. It’s what they spend their day doing.. day in day out.
Call a fucking election. They’re done.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 1:23 pm
Another racist right wing bastard has come out with statements which will send any reasonably minded tent embassy protester to be beating at the doors and windows of a restaurant…
Writing it on a blog. The bastard. Using THR’s rules of justics, that should entitle the protesters to summarily execute the man.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 1:26 pm
So Gillard’s office revved the punks up. And then blames Abbott for the punk protest.
At least she offers a choice; you can be outraged by her continual lying and/or her hamfisted, totally insulting attempts to deny and justify the lying.
cohenite
27 Jan 12 at 1:28 pm
I really hope that story in the OZ isn’t true, because if it is it really does mean that we have plumbed new depths in Australian politics.
tbh
27 Jan 12 at 1:31 pm
Is this the Barbara Shaw that directed and roused the angry mob towards the targets?
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 1:32 pm
I was there and I would make the following remarks.
A lot has been written in the press about the Prime Minister’s security scare yesterday, all of it overlooks the racial animus that Aboriginal leaders had whipped up at speeches delivered in front of the Tent Embassy in the lead up to the riot. Addressing the rally outside the Tent Embassy, speakers were uncompromising and irresponsible in the rhetoric they deployed against Australia’s democratically elected government and even white Australians. The worst instincts of the crowd were appealed to by all manner of racially inflammatory language directed against white Australia, language which stressed the importance of Aboriginal blood and denigrated Australians of European ancestry. The fevered rants stopped just short of calling for violence, with one speaker noting that, “he didn’t want a revolution, because too many people would get killed”. It is impossible to argue that the hate, and there is no other word, being preached at the Aboriginal Tent Embassy played no role in inciting the mob to rush the restaurant where the Prime Minister was dining. In fairness to the press, the media appeared not to be present at these speeches.
Suggestions that Tony Abbott’s remarks earlier in the day were responsible for the riotous behaviour did not appear to be evident in the behaviour of the crowd attempting to storm the restaurant, who were actually calling for the Prime Minister to come out and address them. In any event, Abbott’s remarks pale in comparison to the racial animosity generated by speakers addressing the Tent Embassy. Responsibility for inciting the riot rests in large measure with these individuals. Claims that Abbott caused the disturbance appear to be convenient ex-post rationalisations that completely ignore the tenor of the speakers addressing the Aboriginal rally that day.
Throughout the riot, the conduct of police was outstanding. During the incident they were forced to endure a constant torrent of verbal abuse including slurs of “Nazis”, “racists”, “white boy”, and claims that “you are not the law here”. A consistent theme of speakers earlier in the day was that neither Australian law or the Australian nation had any legitimacy. The courage and professionalism of the police in the face of threats of violence and a hurricane of vilification was impressive and a credit to their ranks. The decision to go ahead with the lunch at the Lobby restaurant in light of the febrile nature of the protests taking place next door was an unbelievably poor one.
New Gold Dream
27 Jan 12 at 1:32 pm
Get of a load of this guy: either taking the piss or a champion loser
Mick Johnson of Canberra west Posted at 1:02 PM Today
Sounds like this story about Labor was leaked by Abbott actually… Hes the woman hater isnt he?
Comment 25 of 45
.
27 Jan 12 at 1:35 pm
Can’t we just give the tent embassy sovereignty and then invade on a humanitarian basis?
.
27 Jan 12 at 1:37 pm
Really? Perhaps like most real men, he happens to despise emily’s list unfeminine feminazi douchebags, mick.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 1:43 pm
Tear that carp down. I can’t believe we’ve tolerated that crap at the front of our parliament for 40 years.
Arrest them after one warning to vacate and throw them in the Simpson desert.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 1:45 pm
“Arrest them after one warning to vacate and throw them in the Simpson desert.”
JC: That’s a death sentence. Only an Aborigine could survive the Simpson desert at this time of year.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 1:49 pm
Carp? lol Yeah there was something fishy about yesterday’s events.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 1:50 pm
I admire the carefully chosen words of a person who truly knows the hurt caused by people judging and disadvataging them by their physical appearance…
I trust that person was just quoting Tony Abbott, so it is all ok.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 1:52 pm
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2012/01/27/285621_ntnews.html
So where they after Abbott or Gillard?
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 1:54 pm
*were
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 1:55 pm
Oh, dear. Did the Prime Minister’s office incite a riot?
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 1:56 pm
From the Gingerella article:
So they’re now taking the mickey out of Sorry Day, the apology to “Stolen” Generation. And quite rightly too.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 1:56 pm
Not even a full-blood Aborigine (is that term still allowed?) would survive these days. Sadly a couple of centuries of living in between cultures have meant thay’ve lost most of the really impressive practical skills that were passed down orally by the elders.
A lot of the current indigenous cultural stuff is either
1. made-up to look and sound cool,
2. fluffy useless new Age crap,
3 pinched from other indigeous cultures (e.g. native americal ‘dream catchers’); or
4. all of the above.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 1:57 pm
If they really do think they’ve been invaded, then they should be paying tribute like all conquered peoples. Either that, or it’s nulla nulla for the men, and selling the women and children into slavery.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:02 pm
I suspect the story isn’t true.
Sounds 2(UE) convenient to me.
If it’s bullshit, Hadley should be sacked.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 2:02 pm
Rad Hadley during the interview with Mick Gooda stressed that the incidents yesterday should not taint the entire Aboriginal population because there were many white non-Aboriginal people there, not just Aborigines. Now how the hell can he tell who is/isn’t an Aborigine? I’m afraid it’s off to Judge Mordy for Hadley.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 2:04 pm
No doubt that is how Paul Coe and Pat Eastock intend to get home after their Invasion Day corroboree?
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:05 pm
It is refreshing to see I do share a viewpoint with the rioters. You know, we really could come together in the spirit of reconciliation over that point.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 2:06 pm
Its Eatock, not Eatsock, or gawd forbid Eatcock. Geddit right, or it’s off to Judge Mordy for you…
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 2:07 pm
It seems Barbara Shaw has admitted to inciting racial hatred. Off to Judge Maudy with her.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:10 pm
Andrew Bolt & Steve Price had to warn Warren Mundine about the risks of making claims that members of the Mordy-Litijus tribe are not aboriginals.
Token
27 Jan 12 at 2:10 pm
papa
How dare you verbal me! I quite clearly said Eastock.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:12 pm
The protestors were yelling for Gillard, how is that consistent with Abbott having caused the riots?
I didn’t hear Abbott’s name mentioned once during the riot.
New Gold Dream
27 Jan 12 at 2:13 pm
Papa
Why should we simply take your work for it. I will swear on a stack of Judge Mordy bibles that I’ve seen it spelt Eatcock in a prestigious daily.
I think you have it wrong.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 2:13 pm
PP off to Jusge Mordy for you anyway for getting facts wrong, misspelling her name.
You’re not Aboriginal (i.e accepted by a tribe as one)are you? If so it’s off to Judge Mordy for me too for misquoting you.
Otherwsie I’m perfectly free to verbal you, like the Age does with Abbott.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 2:16 pm
JC – Bolt tried that excuse already, and it didn’t wash with the Mordy-meister.
One of his ‘factual errors’ came from an article he Googled, apparently.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 2:18 pm
Ummm well I am. I the senior honcho for the Olympic Dam tribe and I’d be happy to explain that to the Mordster.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 2:19 pm
Oh shit. Sorry if I inadvertently caused you any offence JC
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 2:21 pm
New gold dream. No hot chicks, just some beer steak and whiskey. If you are interested in coming email me on this address and I will touch base with Rabz as it is at his house in the Belconnen area.
Jcom123@mail.com
John Comnenus
27 Jan 12 at 2:23 pm
papa
I actually could be if I wanted to be. My ancestral link was probably knocking about the place – except in NSW – at the same time as La Behrendt-Lavarch’s ancestral link.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:24 pm
“I know a lot of people down there and people who are pretending to represent the embassy; They certainly don’t represent the embassy…
There was a bit of a rent-a-crowd mob…”
-Michael Anderson
So the Aboriginal industry / leftist perpetual uni student alliance begins to rapidly unravel.
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 2:26 pm
Papa
Let me remind you that we aboriginals have Mordy’s direct cell phone number. He says that he wants us to call him the moment we witness or experience any white arse giving us white skinned aboriginals a hard time. Get one single fact wrong and you’ll be in the dock faster than saying boo.
There’s no more warning. Any further offense caused and you’ll have the Mordster on your back like like a swarm of African bees.
The mordster was a truly rotten footy player. How he got a guersey I will never know.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 2:26 pm
And on that basis I hereby acknowledge my brother JC from the Olympic Dam mob as an Indigenous Peoples whose cultural competencies you would do well to learn from.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:26 pm
Three out of four’s not bad.
I should point out I’m a free-market conservative. Not necessarily a libertarian.
New Gold Dream
27 Jan 12 at 2:27 pm
The circus continues! lol What a riot! (Too soon?)
“PRIME Minister Julia Gillard says claims a member of her office contacted the tent embassy in Canberra to tell protesters the location of Opposition Leader Tony Abbott minutes before a scuffle broke out are news to her.
“This is complete news to me,” she said in Flowerdale, Victoria, today.
“I haven’t had time to look at the matter, or anything like that.
“I would just like to make the comment that a lot of things do get said on radio.”"
She didn’t say “no” though. Hmm.
Meanwhile…
“Mr Hadley also said he had the name of the staff member and would be happy to pass it on to the Prime Minister in private.”
Further meanwhile, back at tent city:
“Later in Canberra Ms Shaw was asked if she had been contacted by a member of Ms Gillard’s staff.
“Whoever told me was a member of the public,” she said.
“There were a lot of people here yesterday.
“I just heard Tony Abbott’s name.”"
The mere mention of Abbott’s name is enough to cause a riot! Damn but he’s powerful.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/tent-protest-pm-says-hadley-claim-is-news-to-her/story-e6frfku0-1226255302030#ixzz1kcqQU5mF
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 2:27 pm
Jeez it gets worse for me. Given all my ancestors are from England or Scotland, i’m going to have a hard time caliming aboriginality so I can argue with you lot without getting sued.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 2:28 pm
Why thank you Peter. All I need is to get the Alliance to recognize my/our claim over our ancestral land. Piece of cake I reckon.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 2:28 pm
Greens strangely silent.
Probably because all those whiteys banging on the restaurant windows yelling at the PM were Greens staffers.
Boy on a bike
27 Jan 12 at 2:31 pm
Gillard and concern for Tony Abbott’s security – a flashback.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 2:31 pm
papa, you’re in luck, I’ve got a couple of poms AND Scots knocking about in the family tree.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:38 pm
NGD, no hot chicks coming, AFAIK…
Skuter
27 Jan 12 at 2:39 pm
The Greens are currently busy drumming up donations so they can go to Senegal for Dakar2012 conference.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 2:40 pm
I despise these cretins[1] but have to admit, this made me lol.
[1] The violent protestors, not aborigines (just so our resident leftards can’t twist things)
Fleeced
27 Jan 12 at 2:41 pm
Yeah, right. Just add it to the list of reasons why Gillard should be sacked.
ar
27 Jan 12 at 2:46 pm
Fleeced
Said gleeful white chick was Pat Eastscocks
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 2:48 pm
Just had a look at photos of the demo. Only way to tell the police from the “aborigines” in some cases is because the police are in uniform.
From the look of the stupid hats, dreadlocks and moronic T-shirts, the usual anarchist and socialist suspects were in attendance in some numbers.
Boy on a bike
27 Jan 12 at 2:49 pm
A lot of aborigines adopted English surnames back in the day… Eatcock’s ancestors obviously had a very specific skill-set.
Fleeced
27 Jan 12 at 2:52 pm
http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2012/01/invasion-day-studies.html
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 2:53 pm
wow, a sensible blogpost from steve
http://www.opiniondominion.blogspot.com/2012/01/tents-and-aborigines.html
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 2:58 pm
Three-quarters of Steve’s post is about Andrew Bolt.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:00 pm
Yes, Steve’s gone from “it’s Abbott’s fault” to “it was always Bolt’s fault”.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:01 pm
There is no MP in the current parliament, or any in my life time, whose words and deeds have been as pro-Aborigine than Tony Abbott.
Wow? Really? Oh that’s so sad. Please enlighten me with Mr Abbott’s unsung and epic fight for the blackfellas…. why is he so great?
As I said yesterday, the cops should have used water canons and then arrested the leaders for treason, before razing the insulting eyesore of humpies.
Treason? Again with the treason. Protesting against governments isn’t treason. If a protest gets out of hand and turns nasty it still isn’t treason. And saying that it is, well, let’s just say7 if the Nazis took over and I was looking for loyal soldiers for the underground resistance I wouldn’t be asking you. No offense.
Adrien, you partisan hack – there was no coverage of Abbott’s work in Aboriginal communities.
Yeah. And there was no electricity running thru your brain cells when you read my comment.
And if we’re so racist, it wouldn’t be excellent PR anyway, would it?
Who’s racist? I didn’t say anyone was racist.
Adrien – you are holding Abbot to a ridiculous double standard.
How? Steve writes that Gillard and Abbott have been exemplary in their support of Aboriginal people. To date I have no evidence that says either of them is exemplary in anything. And I’m not sure what standard I’m holding Abbott to that I am not holding Gillard to as well.
If that Australian story is true, Gillard must be sacked.
What story? Oh it doesn’t matter. Any story will do the point is Gillard must be sacked. Right?
Adrien
27 Jan 12 at 3:01 pm
Adrien, fisking is so 2003.
You were talking bullshit.
Alright?
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:03 pm
lol – I’ve noticed the ‘aboriginal activist’ crowd pinches a fair bit of their look from the Jamaicans. They’ve got their blackfellas mixed up.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 3:07 pm
Read the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth).
You may not…imprison or restrain the sovereign, viceroy or chief minister.
It’s arguable but it’s dangerously close.
Dude, you’re smart enough, figure it out.
.
27 Jan 12 at 3:10 pm
LOL. Veni, vidi, vici.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:11 pm
Aboriginalism as a leftist political weapon has nearly exhausted itself and now the few slow witted leftist co-opters still remaining are salting the earth as they leave. Intent on going out with a do or die bang before they follow the rest of their mates into the greener pastures of Climate Change and Asylum Seeker Justice(TM).
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 3:14 pm
Great. It shouldn’t be a stretch for you to put up some condos on the Gold Coast and make a gazillion.
Go!
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:16 pm
Here’s a good article looking at the media beat-up of this. The facts are that nobody was injured by the ‘rioters’, and not a single charge has been laid.
Of course, many people here are quite happy for brain-dead hooligans to wave flags on Australia Day, but they get a little tetchy when Aboriginals (or activists) do it. If only the crowd had been drunk and kicking the heads of olive-skinned lads on Cronulla Beach, the hysterics here would have had a cause to support.
THR
27 Jan 12 at 3:18 pm
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/police-begin-investigation-into-tent-embassy-protest/story-fn3dxity-1226255382730
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:19 pm
That’s a nice standard to know. Anything short of actual physical violence is nothing to worry about. Everyone – feel free to get a mob together, surround THR’s home, and bang on the windows for half an hour or so! See how he likes it.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 3:20 pm
That clown Eltham is still running the ‘Tony Abbott incited this’ line and you expect us to read him. Seriously?
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 3:20 pm
LOL
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 3:22 pm
Questions must be asked!
Ahahahahaha.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:23 pm
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:23 pm
What will they be charged with? Speaking in a loud voice?
THR
27 Jan 12 at 3:25 pm
Ben Eltham, man of the people and crowd whisperer
jtfsoon
27 Jan 12 at 3:26 pm
There’s quite a selection of charges that could apply. As for the specifics of what will happen, please consult Madame Monty.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:27 pm
They should be charged with riot and affray.
200 people caused the PM to move on as a security concern.
A more vindictive Government perhaps could rightfully charge them with treason.
.
27 Jan 12 at 3:32 pm
Ray Hadley on that call.
Anyone seen Kevin today?
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:33 pm
It sounds like borderline treason, doesn’t it dot?
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 3:36 pm
Michael Anderson latest:
And now, a word from the Greens:
It’s Abbott’s fault, natch.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:40 pm
Re Hadley, where’s the political advantage, though?
Abbott being mobbed would be worth 3 points in the polls for him. It would be gold.
Doesn’t make any sense.
The again… As the Albanese/Douglas debacle proved, there was definitely a policy afoot to attack Abbott personally and hype his ‘divisive’ politics.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:42 pm
Why bother with an investigation/ laying charges – the judge will just rule that it’s a ‘culturally appropriate’ expression of ‘resistance to oppression’.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 3:43 pm
Political advantage, sure, in some misguided small hope, however I believe this was personal. But I don’t believe for a minute the Labor staffers can think things through. It was purely a spiteful manipulation of the Abo activists born out of sheer malevolence towards Abbott…and then the wheels fell off..
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 3:48 pm
Greens Deputy Leader Christine Milne said the comments were regrettable.
“Mr Abbott’s ill-considered remarks demonstrate the need to officially recognise all elements of Australia Day so that we can work towards a truly national day,” she said.
Isn’t Australia a great place. A mere housewife makes to the senate and adorns it with her intellect. What a meritocracy.
Jc
27 Jan 12 at 3:49 pm
The thing about the lobby restaurant is that it a glass box. Anyone inside would feel they are in a small fishbowl. So I would imagine it was pretty scary.
On Wednesday I was in Cardwell at a graduation ceeremony for three aboringinal crews that played a pivotal role in Yasi clean up in Cardwell, port hinchinbrook and the resorts on hinchinbrook and dunk islands. These crews had done an outstanding job, and many of the workers had got permanent work out of it and the profile of the local Girringun community had been raised in a most positive way. The ceremony was a quite happy occasion and very community spiriited (both Whiteys and blacks equally participated and worked together)
Then this happened on Thursday. It was like entering a time warp and we were back in the sixties.
Entropy
27 Jan 12 at 3:51 pm
Yeah, I buy that.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 3:51 pm
Wiki quotes the Criminal Code Act
Section 80.1 of the Criminal Code, contained in the schedule of the Australian Criminal Code Act 1995, defines treason as follows:
“A person commits an offence, called treason, if the person:
(a) causes the death of the Sovereign, the heir apparent of the Sovereign, the consort of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(b) causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister resulting in the death of the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister; or
(c) causes harm to the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister, or imprisons or restrains the Sovereign, the Governor-General or the Prime Minister
(h) forms an intention to do any act referred to in a preceding paragraph and manifests that intention by an overt act.
These fools probably didn’t realise the potential illegality of their actions. Note that c. may refer to the protesters and h. may refer to the shit stirrer.
.
27 Jan 12 at 3:52 pm
You’re insuling housewives all across the country, JC. I know plenty who have more intellect and would make better senators than Tubsy Milne
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 3:52 pm
The left side of CL’s brain seems to have convinced the right side of CL’s brain that the call was really made.
Who would even tell Hadley this?
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 4:03 pm
Hey, Papachango, what if we cut a deal with JC in his role as big kanuna of the Olympic Dam tribe?
If he accepts us as aborigines, then we are aborigines!
And I reckon I am an aborigine, I was born here after all.
JC, I’d never insult you by offering to cross your palm with silver… so how many slabs are we talking here?
Mk50 of Brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 4:14 pm
I’m in, and I’ll beat Mk50s offer.
papachango
27 Jan 12 at 4:28 pm
Adrien
s.80.1 Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth)
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 4:32 pm
Fine… It’s open slather in honor of the Australia day weekend. Any of you dudes wanna become aboriginal, just holler and I’ll get my Aboriginal Ancestry Institute to send out certificates.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 5:01 pm
Headline blurb at PerthNow front page:
Seriously, NewsLtd?
spot
27 Jan 12 at 5:01 pm
No need to fight over guys, there’s plenty of ecologically sustainable paper in which to print the certificates.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 5:02 pm
oop on not in
JC
27 Jan 12 at 5:02 pm
Is the AAI related to the Global Warming and Fair Pay Institute?
.
27 Jan 12 at 5:05 pm
You’ve never been to The Lobby, have you? If you had, you’d know that there is no way of sneaking out without being noticed.
Abu Chowdah
27 Jan 12 at 5:17 pm
Yes, Dot it’s the institute aligned to renowned Global Warming and Fair Pay Institute. Same CBD building.
Dude at this rate, I could end up becoming a Nobel Laurette in Al Gore’s world Peace category.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 5:20 pm
Would love to see the internal analysis from the ALP smarties on ‘how to play’ this incident.
Even these guys must be able to discern the abject disrespect the vast majority has for thugs like these fools.
But then again, the CMFEU and other knuckle draggers have this intimidation as a stock standard. This could lead to calls of ‘double standards’ based on race.
I hope the ALP will apply the same standards when the next bunch of throwbacks mans a ‘picket line’ with violent meatheads.
Don
27 Jan 12 at 5:46 pm
Will you take a cask of my finest goon in exchange for a certificate? My ancestors interacted with the indigenous inhabitants regularly – although it was mainly rooting and shooting.
Boy on a bike
27 Jan 12 at 5:47 pm
Steve, you moron, I’ve said above that I doubt the story. I asked for a rationale of why the call would have been made and Gab provided one that is entirely credible vis-a-vis this government and this prime minister.
We all know that if Gillard wasn’t there yesterday, you would be crowing with delight today, by the way.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 5:53 pm
MWD is back! But this doesn’t seem correct. Surely every day is Blame Abbott Day:
http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/issue-122/
Ivan Denisovich
27 Jan 12 at 5:55 pm
JC – I suggest you send the first certificate to Abbott. He’s surely spent more time in remote communities than most of these activists put together.
Boy on a bike
27 Jan 12 at 5:58 pm
The state-run media has a lovely pic of Australia Day celebrations.
News has a better one.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 5:59 pm
I’m in for sure. And there is actually even a little dusky blood in the family (some of the ancestors were horny little buggers). let ‘em out of the Baltic and the first thing they did was boink the locals.
Tell you what – I’m actually quite serious about this as I think it’d be a hoot to have an ‘official certificate of aboriginality’ on the wall – Kae is a trusted person and knows a lot of the Blairites around Brisbane. We have the occasional get-together.
How’s about I send her an email and maybe set up a point of contact thru her? I reckon we can sort something out, and Kae can be trusted to maintain our individual anonymity. She’s been doing that for the Blairite community for years.
What do ya think?
Mk50 of Brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 6:02 pm
“Liberty Sanger”?? Is that really a person’s name? Or a sammich created for Australia Day?
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 6:03 pm
Oh well, all this at least means fewer trees will have to die, as there will be no referendum.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 6:04 pm
Over at BoltA – Aboriginal tent embassy spokesman Craig McMurtrie has an excuse: “There were some people there as you can see who were clearly not Aboriginal people. ”
How can he tell?
Did he just breach the Racial Discrimination Act by causing hurt and offence?
oil shrill
27 Jan 12 at 6:05 pm
Tent embassy statement:
‘Just look at ‘em. They weren’t black.’
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 6:08 pm
Don’t be silly: any such behaviour leads to an increase in sympathy for the victim, and I would have disliked Abbott gaining from it.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 6:12 pm
APPEAL BOLTA, APPEAL!
.
27 Jan 12 at 6:13 pm
Suggested removal plan:
http://www.rightpulse.com/archives/24434
Ivan Denisovich
27 Jan 12 at 6:18 pm
He can fucken talk. A beige koori if ever there was one.
Abu Chowdah
27 Jan 12 at 6:51 pm
The Herald Sun reports that a Julia Gillard staffer has quit over allegations that someone from her office helped to incite yesterday’s violent protest by ringing a spokesman from the Aboriginal tent embassy.
Oh, my.
spot
27 Jan 12 at 6:57 pm
He should be charged with inciting racial riot.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 6:59 pm
…hatred.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 7:00 pm
Gillard’s junior adviser sacked over inciting 1/8th Indigenous Peoples’s to acts of treason.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/reports-the-prime-ministers-office-encouraged-protesters-to-target-tony-abbott-over-tent-embassy/story-fn59niix-1226255650827
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 7:08 pm
I have mates that at are, erm.., members of motorcycle enthusiasts clubs [ yeh, that'll do] and are itching to go down and ” sort it out”, if the word is given.
Not their call, so they sit and seethe .
Their faults aside, they’re a patriotic bunch.
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 7:13 pm
Gab was right.
Gillard’s people set out to incite a race riot and physically harm the Opposition Leader.
Gillard really is finished.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 7:13 pm
This government really epitomizes midas in reverse. FFS, an adviser alerts the thugs where Abbott is to give him a hard time?
Who the fuck are these people. Where do they come from?
JC
27 Jan 12 at 7:23 pm
So what time will be SoB’s retraction on what he said about Hadley?
That guy has some great sources (he broke the Insulation debacle and detention centre riots from his sources).
Token
27 Jan 12 at 7:24 pm
Folks, when is the next poll taken?
Any estimates on the results ?
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 7:26 pm
Yesterday when I suggested this had Labor fingerprints on it somewhere, I copped a verbal hiding from the spouse and some friends. More to come on this matter, I think.
mareeS
27 Jan 12 at 7:30 pm
So has a Gillard staffer has resigned for inciting an act of treason?
Remember that there is footage of these people banging the windows and calling for the Prime Minister. This is quite possibly an act of treason, and must be investigated pursuant to the above law.
It will be nice if the LP filth and The Age issue a statement on this disgusting affair sometime, particularly after they ludicrously claimed that Abbott incited a riot against himself!
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 7:33 pm
interesting to see the little lass who burnt the flag on the news just now…….. surrounded by giggly children about primary school age. Can’t arrest such
adorable little youngsters now can we ….
hz
27 Jan 12 at 7:34 pm
It’s now very obvious why Gillard was so quick to include Tony Abbott in her rescue. She knew this was going to happen before they even arrived at the restaurant. Time to call Judge Maudy.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 7:35 pm
The now infamous shoe – that has a life of its own and probably a blog site by now – was taken off eBay and has now been returned to Gillard.
All’s well that ends well eh?
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 7:35 pm
Speers is nonchalantly changing his tune.
Let that be a lesson to ya David.
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 7:35 pm
Pyne is all over it, revelling even.
Haahaaahaa
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 7:38 pm
Unbelievable! The Prime Minister has conspired with Barbara Shaw and Michael Anderson to commit treason! Time for popcorn.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 7:38 pm
Bunyip’s take
Token
27 Jan 12 at 7:44 pm
The now infamous shoe – that has a life of its own and probably a blog site by now – was taken off eBay and has now been returned to Gillard.
At least someone associated with that crew has some sense.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 7:44 pm
They were trying to sell stolen property…that’s a criminal offence.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 7:48 pm
“PM’s staffer sacked over riot”. That should be the neutral headline in tomorrow’s SMH. Instead, we will get a troubleshooting Phillip Coorey/Peter Harcher press release on behalf of the Gillard Government, along the lines of today’s coverage Unless someone takes the drugs off Peter Fray at tonight’s SMH editorial conference. There are indeed signs that the love media is about to dump Gillard.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 7:49 pm
Does anyone know if Pat Eatcock can be charged with intent to steal or passing on stolen goods? Ripping off Gillard’s shoe like that and putting it on eBay is probably a criminal offence.
I want all of these scumbags to be hit with the full weight of the law. Charges of treason, stealing and conspiracy to commit a crime should all be on the agenda.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 7:50 pm
I’m betting Albo was the one who told the staffer to call the Tent Embassy.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 7:51 pm
Seeing how they’ve given it back probably not Fisky, but had they not it would be definitely theft.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 7:52 pm
A junior flack going rogue can be dealt with by Malcolm Tucker but if the PM knew of it before she went there then that is a bit serious
Pickles
27 Jan 12 at 7:52 pm
Tom
Bingo. Check out this airhead.
http://larvatusprodeo.net/2012/01/25/invasion-dayaustralia-day-unitydisunity/#comment-356690
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 7:52 pm
Meh, both me and CL were wrong about the story seeming too convenient for Hadley. I trust people will spend a similar amount of time berating CL for this as me.
Ha.
Anyway, according to the story, it was not directly to the tent embassy. Who it was too, and what that person says about it, will be interesting.
How embarrassing to the PM therefore yet to be determined. Do people really think the PM herself could see political advantage in encouraging aboriginal protest at the function she was at? Seems a very dubious proposition to me.
I presume media staff make calls all the time, and would not expect the PM to know about all of them.
Abbott’s reaction will be interesting too.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 7:53 pm
The Prime Minister has conspired with Barbara Shaw and Michael Anderson to commit treason!
No, no, we don’t know that at all. There is only very circumstantial evidence that she might have known. What we do know is that one of her staffers should be investigated for incitement to treason.
On the other hand, if this really were a set-up for the cameras, directed from the top, then it has blown up spectacularly.
Either way, we have a sharp reminder after the holiday season that this government is a filthy outfit that should be taken out with the garbage.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 7:54 pm
But it did go up briefly, didn’t it? So is there a charge there or not?
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 7:55 pm
You’re going to end up with terrific calf muscles, Steve.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 7:56 pm
Not likely to be found guilty. Any court hearing would be a waste of money.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 7:57 pm
Thanks, LP
http://www.closethetentembassy.com/
.
27 Jan 12 at 7:57 pm
You don’t know that at all.
.
27 Jan 12 at 7:58 pm
I do Dot. Getting a conviction is not as easy as you seem to think it is.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 7:59 pm
You’ll have to draw a diagram, Gab: I don’t follow.
I will never doubt you again, but only if you stop being wrong 98% of the time.
steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 8:00 pm
If it was Albo, there’s only one place it could’ve occured.
lotocoti
27 Jan 12 at 8:00 pm
sdfc
Just make sure you get an airhead like Maudy.
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 8:01 pm
With all your backpedalling, Steve, it improves the calf muscles.
…ah, stuff it, that’s just way too easy.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 8:02 pm
I don’t think it is easy you presumptuous fuck. There is mountains of evidence against the mob.
.
27 Jan 12 at 8:05 pm
No, just you, you addlepated albatross.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 8:09 pm
CRIMES ACT 1900 – SECT 188
Receiving stolen property where stealing a serious indictable offence
188 Receiving stolen property where stealing a serious indictable offence
(1) Whosoever receives, or disposes of, or attempts to dispose of, any property, the stealing whereof amounts to a serious indictable offence, knowing the same to have been stolen, shall be guilty of a serious indictable offence, and may be indicted, either as an accessory after the fact, or for a substantive offence, and in the latter case whether the principal offender has been previously tried or not, or is amenable to justice or not, and in either case is liable:
(a) if the property is a motor vehicle or a motor vehicle part, or a vessel or a vessel part, to imprisonment for 12 years, or
(b) in the case of any other property, to imprisonment for 10 years.
Jim Rose
27 Jan 12 at 8:11 pm
Gillard government off to a flying start for 2012. Hang out Wilkie to dry, Albo’s Academy Award performance and now some hopeless staffer failing to distinguish between university and federal politics. All in less than a week.
Secretly I suspect Gillard wishes Fair Work Australia would get off its arse, Thomson get charged and go to a general election wipeout. She could then retire to much deserved obscurity.
H B Bear
27 Jan 12 at 8:12 pm
Who has a clue about conspiracy law?
Peter Patton
27 Jan 12 at 8:13 pm
Threaten OZ PM = ahh she’ll be right.
Shoot photo of Obama = Secret Service investigation into “ intent”.
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 8:22 pm
If they gave the shoe back Jim they are unlikely to gain a conviction.
The evidence “the mob” can use Dot is that they gave the shoe back.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 8:25 pm
Peter
I have a clue about criminal law through seeing it first hand. The evidence required to obtain a conviction is extremely onerous.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 8:28 pm
The law is that it doesn’t matter if you give it back. The matter is whether or not it is trivial.
.
27 Jan 12 at 8:28 pm
Whatever epitaphs are eventually attached to Gillard’s political career, the one that can’t be disputed is: amateur.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 8:29 pm
You would think a front page photo would qualify as being caught in the act, wouldn’t you?
She’s guilty. It’s trivial though.
.
27 Jan 12 at 8:30 pm
They gave the shoe back Dot. This is not a defence of their actions but a matter of evidence.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 8:31 pm
Yes, but they also put it on eBay – which is evidence of intent to sell stolen goods.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 8:33 pm
Damn ugly shoe if you ask me
Tal
27 Jan 12 at 8:34 pm
I have no doubt she is guilty Dot. However someone in that camp seems to have some common sense and realised a charge of theft could have been on the cards should the sale have gone through. The buyer would also be a thief.
sdfc
27 Jan 12 at 8:34 pm
I agree, Tal. Nothing worth fighting over for sure.
Nice to see you back here.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 8:37 pm
So, to recap, here’s an updated list of the Left’s achievements this week:
-Plagiarism
-Incitement to Violence
-Treason
-Conspiracy
-Theft
-Receiving Stolen Goods
They haven’t committed terrorism yet, but there’s still a whole weekend ahead of us.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 8:38 pm
Giving it back is a defence to stealing or receiving but not to deadshit, loser, dolebludger, leftard behaviour
Tiny Dancer
27 Jan 12 at 8:39 pm
And I almost forgot the ritual denunciations of white people on Australia day and the burning of the Australian flag:
-Breaching the Mordy Diskwimminashun Act
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 8:39 pm
Hmmm
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 8:40 pm
What if you can establish intent to sell?
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 8:40 pm
sdfc – ‘Whosoever receives, or disposes of, or attempts to dispose of,’
What part of this are you having difficulties with, and why?
Winston Smith
27 Jan 12 at 8:40 pm
It was up on eBay for a few hours with a starting price, wasn’t it?
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 8:42 pm
I never thought I’d see that day that I would see an Australian federal government descend into this kind of rabble. I’m utterly speechless.
tbh
27 Jan 12 at 8:43 pm
putting it up for sale would provide proof of intent to “permanently deprive the owner of the possession of the item” it which would go to proving stealing or receiving
Tiny Dancer
27 Jan 12 at 8:44 pm
The owner would have to complain of the loss first.
Steve from Brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 8:48 pm
It seems that there might be a bit of a pattern or stategy emerging from all this.
Last week Abbott makes a flippant remark on FM radio about the skillz of Italian boat captains, which appeared wholely unremarkable until he was verballed the next day by an ALP member/enabler of their helpers in the CPG.
This week Abbott is again verballed, inciting a riot outside the lobby restaurant. Again by the ALP.
Entropy
27 Jan 12 at 8:53 pm
Did getup bid?
jumpnmcar
27 Jan 12 at 8:56 pm
SkyNEWS reports that the disclosure about Abbott’s whereabouts was “accidental”.
Unlikely
Tiny Dancer
27 Jan 12 at 9:01 pm
Hey Tal.
You were missed.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 9:02 pm
Albo phoned re ridiculous charges.
Said restauranteur had told him, “of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine.”
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 9:04 pm
Footage emerges of restaurateur.
H/T: Albo.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 9:09 pm
Lad,I have given up my search for an anti war rally
Tal
27 Jan 12 at 9:11 pm
I hope footage of Gillard to camera inquiring and insisting about the welfare of Mr Abbott doesn’t disappear. She knew what was happening alright, cool as a cucumber and evil as hell.
mareeS
27 Jan 12 at 9:16 pm
Maree, I think that footage is being very carefully edited right now for an election campaign should Julia need it. She will be presented as caring, upright and calmly decisive in the face of personal peril. Her Anna Bligh moment. Sick-making actually, given what we know. But most people won’t know or remember that.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
27 Jan 12 at 9:31 pm
Looks corrective. Trying to fix the waddle, perhaps?
ar
27 Jan 12 at 9:37 pm
Lizzie, I think lots of people like me have saved it. Poor me in the yacht club yesterday, I said the cynical thing, ie “this is a setup, she’s her usual fake self, poor bohoo Joolia getting saved from the bad people. Labor’s inept fingerprints are all over it,” and my husband has only begun speaking to me today since the media lad fell on his sword for McTernan, whose irish fabian dabs are all over the place. I come from a family of irish fabians, and they really ar this stupid.
mareeS
27 Jan 12 at 9:45 pm
Pyne calls for complete AFP investigation:
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 9:48 pm
Good-o Maree, if they use it to promote her we’ll have to put plenty of alternative visions about then.
They will put up a big personal attack on Abbott for sure. We have to start thinking of the election campaign now, what they will try to use and lie about, and be prepared to repel all the dirty tricks.
Another term of this mob would see me out of the country and off to Canada.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
27 Jan 12 at 9:49 pm
A bit about Heathcliff the Hunk:
HE’S Australia’s answer to Kevin Costner. Pictures of him with his arms around Julia Gillard, protecting her from angry protesters, have made news around the world, and this morning breakfast shows played him the ultimate compliment and played Whitney Houston’s I Will Always Love You over the footage.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 9:53 pm
In any event I think the spooks did a great job saving Julia from the mob. And the mob from abbot.
Pickles
27 Jan 12 at 9:54 pm
I would have liked to see Abbott come out and front the mob. Security decisions are made by others and he probably had no choice but shit it would have been good. The arseholes would have crapped themselves
Tiny Dancer
27 Jan 12 at 10:03 pm
I found it rather strange. Usually Gillard et al cannot wait to lay the boot in when Abbott does/says anything and yet…nothing was said yesterday about his “inciting racial riot” by the Labor stooges. Gillard was asked repeatedly this morning about Abbott “wanting the Tent embassy torn down” and she just deflected the questions with the same answer each time. Something along the lines of “I’m fine, thank you very much”. She just wouldn’t be drawn into criticising Abbott. Makes you wonder about her complicity in all this…
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:04 pm
7, home of Labor lickspittle Mark Riley, ignores Gillard staffer resignation in its News bulletin but did manage to rerun footage of Gillard suggesting protection for Abbott:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national/watch/28032800/
Ivan Denisovich
27 Jan 12 at 10:11 pm
“I hope footage of Gillard to camera inquiring and insisting about the welfare of Mr Abbott doesn’t disappear. She knew what was happening alright, cool as a cucumber and evil as hell.”
mareeS; that is a very good point which puts a new complexion on the fact that gillard’s staffer, hodges, has resigned because he put a call in notifying the lunatics at the tent ghetto that Abbott had not said what he said.
If she thought that if Abbott was hurt, that blowback would eventually come home to her and that prompted her to be ‘concerned’ about him then she is lower than a snake’s guts.
cohenite
27 Jan 12 at 10:11 pm
“No need to fight over guys, there’s plenty of ecologically sustainable paper in which to print the certificates.”
OK, an oversupply will push down prices for entry to the Olympic Dam Tribe.
I offer a sixpack of whatever Australian brew you want.
Winston Smith
27 Jan 12 at 10:22 pm
Interesting speculation, but we actually have no evidence of Gillardian prior knowledge.
Fisky
27 Jan 12 at 10:23 pm
One thing to do Lizzie is a Downfall Parody style of clip, but with the original footage of the riot.
Alinsky: ridicule is your strongest weapon.
Winston Smith
27 Jan 12 at 10:25 pm
Gab: maybe, just maybe, Gillard didn’t criticise Abbott because most people can readily see that there wasn’t really anything to criticise.
(May I remind you of what Mundine and Carr said today?)
Steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 10:29 pm
Perhaps, Steve. I find it hard to accept given her past performances. Still, I have no evidence she had prior knowledge.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:33 pm
So Tony Hodges got sacked for using his independent initiative? Yeah, that sounds right.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 10:36 pm
I blame that devious Mr. Rudd, he’s the most obvious person to benefit from both Gillard and Abbott being simultaneously made to look like fools. And the advisor was formerly one of his. We’re through the looking-glass on this one people.
… I don’t even know if I’m joking – given the levels Labour have already stooped to in recent times just about anything is possible.
On the plus side I don’t know how this government can possibly get any worse.
Andreas
27 Jan 12 at 10:37 pm
What a terrific stage-managed photo. It literally reeks of symbolism.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 10:41 pm
I think the only explanation for so many women commenting on this thread is because it involves women’s shoes. Can’t help yourselves, can you?
Steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 10:45 pm
The day before yesterday my brother an I were laughing about the Wilkie / Slipper / “Shagger” Thompson three years to investigate fiasco and said exactly the same thing.
And now…here we are.
twostix
27 Jan 12 at 10:46 pm
Steve imagines he’s sevens cans into a redneck ALP BBQ in Townsville.
Tom
27 Jan 12 at 10:52 pm
True Andreas. Very true. Rudd is a cunning animal and wouldn’t surprise me if the staffer will receive some sort of reward for these actions. This first sitting week of Parliament is shaping up to be one of the best ever…who knows WTF will happen? New PM by weeks end? Change of government? Who knows? Can’t fucking wait…
Skuter
27 Jan 12 at 10:54 pm
The thing with the footage, if you look at it closely, is boohoo Joolia doing her terrified thing, clutched in the arms of her bodyguard, and Abbott just a few steps behind, walking upright and bulletproof. He had a wry look and a smile, as if he knew this was a job somebody had already sorted. He’s no dill, and he’s getting savvier by the day, which is why he put the challenge to the media to “check what I said.” Love ya Tony, keep it going.
mareeS
27 Jan 12 at 10:55 pm
Maree,
I reckon Abbott looks like he’s actually trying stand upright and slow things down.
He’s getting shoved from behind and leaning back into it.. he’s got a clear head about him and isn’t being fooled by the air of panic.
duncan
27 Jan 12 at 10:58 pm
Stevie, I know I said I wouldn’t insult you for 24 hours, but time is about half up, and this isn’t really an insult because I’m guessing it’s true: you wear socks and sandals, the sort with a little t-bar and a girly buckle on them, don’t you? And your knees knobble out from your baggy shorts and girls laugh, don’t they? Real men wear nice footwear or rugged boots that make us sigh with delight as they fix things for us. Trust us, we know about shoes.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
27 Jan 12 at 10:59 pm
Steve, stop being such a malicious mongoose.
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 11:04 pm
Ooh, I’m in love!
Entropy
27 Jan 12 at 11:10 pm
Lizzie, I think Steve is the pin-up boy for Birkenstock. Think grey hair, straggly beard, skinny Canadian Harper-hating ex-hippy in socks and sandals, sitting in the tent embassy, waiting for the revolution. Imagine letting 40 years of your life slide by without a result.
Apologies to all the nice Canadians I know, the worst ones moved to Oregon and Canberra.
mareeS
27 Jan 12 at 11:13 pm
Well at this rate if – by whatever foul black magic that keeps them animate – they manage to drag on till 2013 there’ll just be a smouldering ruin where parliament once stood. This week alone we’ve had Albanese making international news for taking lines from The American President, now we’ve had Gillard reenacting a scene from The Bodyguard all over the front pages of the international press. What the hell is next. Independence Day? American Pie? The Birds?
Andreas
27 Jan 12 at 11:21 pm
Caddyshack, Andreas. Caddyshack.
Mk50 of Brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 11:30 pm
Have they done a Clampetts movie yet?
Gab
27 Jan 12 at 11:31 pm
FMD with a Blue Whale’s todger, there actually is such a thing as a certificate of Aboriginality!
Mk50 of Brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 11:38 pm
Dumb and Dumber. Absolutely.
JC
27 Jan 12 at 11:44 pm
This seems to be the place with the action right now, so shamelessly copying this from another place.. About NG
“Good to have you on board JC.
Note that the SOU address was a carefully crafted first salvo in the POTUS campaign. It was clearly targeted at Romney, with its ‘tax the rich’ trope. So that’s where Dem political intelligence (oxymoron, like Slapper’s office?) is now.
They won’t know how to handle NG because he is from a parallel universe as far as they are concerned. These awful Tea Party people, who must be racist etc because they don’t believe in Michael Moore..
The stuff that Steve would gobble up with his weetbix..
“
Lazlo
27 Jan 12 at 11:48 pm
Dear women of Catallaxy: there is one, and only one as far as I know, photo of me on the internet, which does not show my face clearly but gives you a general impression of the rest of me. It is enough to prove you are not correct.
Steve from brisbane
27 Jan 12 at 11:48 pm
I reckon Tone wanted to box his way out.
sean
27 Jan 12 at 11:54 pm
Hey, the Canberra
PressStenography Gallery sure earned their keep on this, didn’t they?A whole swarm of them and they didn’t have a clue about a political set-up taking place in – oh yeah – CANBERRA.
C.L.
27 Jan 12 at 11:54 pm
Who needs to be correct about your outside, Steve? We have already got your inner person pegged.
mareeS
27 Jan 12 at 11:57 pm
They’ll probably want to hush it up then…
ar
27 Jan 12 at 11:59 pm
It was the swagger and the swoon…
ar
28 Jan 12 at 12:00 am
Abbott’s fault. Fault sayin’…
Gab
28 Jan 12 at 12:03 am
Just saying…for heaven’s sake.
That typo was Abbott’s fault too!
Gab
28 Jan 12 at 12:04 am
Albo and the slapper go skiing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS1TBuPvvj4
JC
28 Jan 12 at 12:05 am
Politicaly, anatomicaly..?
Lazlo
28 Jan 12 at 12:07 am
Albo’s next inspiring address to the nation.
“Greetings my friends, we are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friends, future events such as these will affect you in the future.”
Andreas
28 Jan 12 at 12:39 am
Mk50,
of course you need a bloody certificate.. so’se you can claim the fringe benefits.
Just like a disabled parking sticker .. to ‘avoid’ scamming[*]
[*] – just for the lefties: no, I’m NOT suggesting Aboriginals are disabled
duncan
28 Jan 12 at 7:55 am
Found it, you leftist son of a bitch.
http://bit.ly/wFdVNL
Les Majesty
28 Jan 12 at 9:41 am
To kill two birds with one stone, clubs should be banned from having poker machines and only Aboriginal tribes should be allowed to have them (as in the US).
Then, like in the US, you will soon find rigidly enforced codes of Aboriginality (as in the US, where Indian tribes routinely kick out members for being insufficiently native American, thus depriving them of the right to share in casino proceeds).
No more honkies running around lecturing the rest of us about how racist we are.
Les Majesty
28 Jan 12 at 9:44 am
Gee, Les, I thought it would be wittier than that….
Steve from Brisbane
28 Jan 12 at 9:46 am
Sorry, Steve, I put the wrong link up.
Here’s Steve’s Facebook photo. He has a surprisingly blank Facebook page – the only thing he has “liked” is “Not filing your tax return – ever”.
http://prejuiciofinal.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/stalin_xumax.jpg
Les Majesty
28 Jan 12 at 9:50 am
Here’s Steve on holidays.
http://i21.tinypic.com/23muh42.jpg
Les Majesty
28 Jan 12 at 9:51 am
Another snap of Steve on holiday spending money he owes the ATO.
http://bit.ly/pTE76f
Les Majesty
28 Jan 12 at 9:53 am
OMG,
The Slapper lost a slipper. Hopefully she will lose the other Slipper so the people can cut her off at the legs.
There is no way a staffer does something like this off his own bat. This was an inside job. This is a real racial incitement, so the chances of anyone investigating it or anyone being charged over it is very slim. Imagine the uproar if the person was a staffer from Abbott’s office. Abbott needs to ‘Newt’ the media.
John Comnenus
28 Jan 12 at 9:54 am
Yes, Les, I am in need of an Internet holiday to attend to matters, but the powerful Wrongness of Catallaxy keeps drawing me back.
Can you please ridicule CL a lot about how his preferred candidate will have him holidaying on the Moon in only 8 years time?
Steve from Brisbane
28 Jan 12 at 9:55 am
Steve
Les’s pictorial essay is essentially accurate. If you lived in 30s Germany , we all know who you would be supporting and we also know who you would be informing on.
Jc
28 Jan 12 at 10:06 am
Lol Les. On the beach. Hilarious.
John Comnenus
28 Jan 12 at 10:11 am
Sprung! Tony Hodges’ accomplice in inciting race riot and treason was union flunkie, Lefty Kim Sattler. How deep will this conspiracy prove to be?
http://www.theage.com.au/national/labor-figure-kim-sattler-named-as-gobetween-in-protest-20120128-1qmre.html
Peter Patton
28 Jan 12 at 1:56 pm
Ms [Barbara] Shaw said she didn’t identify Ms Sattler on sight at the embassy rally but later confirmed her identity speaking to others who were there.
“She said I should
let people know Tony Abbott is over therestick my head in the oven, so I did,” Ms Shaw said.Peter Patton
28 Jan 12 at 1:59 pm
Yeah Steve – we’re hanging around waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Viva
28 Jan 12 at 3:16 pm
CL – Adrien, fisking is so 2003.
CL please. I’ve told you before I’m not gay. I’m flattered but , y’know, stop with codewords already.
Adrien
28 Jan 12 at 4:30 pm
Dot – Dude, you’re smart enough, figure it out.
No I’m dumb explain it to me.
It’s arguable but it’s dangerously close.
It’s dangerously close to the clause that precedes the one you quote. They did not kidnap the prime minister they assaulted her. And yes it’s arguable, legally. And yes they could charge the mob for stealing her shoe.
It would also be very stupid.
Adrien
28 Jan 12 at 4:38 pm
Yes I’m coming round to the view that the lying slapper knew exactly what was going on. Her actions on camera in the restaurant were just too cute.
It’s all gone cactus, but maybe the truth will out, eventually. Just like it will for Bligh and the flood debacle.
Lazlo
28 Jan 12 at 11:01 pm
yep
Les Majesty
29 Jan 12 at 11:07 am