Open Forum: January 28, 2012 at Catallaxy Files

Open Forum: January 28, 2012

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OK, JC lets not do the welcome to online country this evening…
How about we all give thanks to western culture for an awesome standard of living?

Skuter

28 Jan 12 at 12:05 am
Skuter, JC is le grand fromage of the Olympic Dam tribe. It’s compulsory he does the welcome to Cat country shpeel.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 12:07 am
#1! you ferkin’ beauty!

Skuter

28 Jan 12 at 12:07 am
Easy people. This should always be the first comment.

I acknowledge the Indigenous people, on whose lands we meet today.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:08 am
anyone watching this tennis game. It’s grueling. One of the best matches I’ve seen.

Murray vs Djokovic.

these two guys are so even and they’re at it for every point, although andy murray is slowing down a little.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:11 am
Hendo destroys Michael Pearce and Leslie Cannold.

Crybaby Cannold pulls a Mordy:

Cannold then abuses Henderson, accuses him of harassment and refers him to her lawyer.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 12:11 am
anyone watching this tennis game. It’s grueling.

Flipping between that and Helen Mirren/Prime Suspect.

She tried to seduce a colleague and I wished I was him.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 12:14 am
Cannold chucks a hissy fit: News at 11.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 12:18 am
Gerard Henderson is like the Australian George Will.

Alex Pundit

28 Jan 12 at 12:19 am
Excellent vid.

On January 26, 2012, President Obama visited a Las Vegas UPS plant.
Stimulus subsidy for said UPS plant to purchase natural-gas-powered trucks: 5.6 million dollars.

Stimulus subsidy for North Las Vegas green energy plant that laid off 200 workers yesterday: 5.9 million dollars.

Using taxpayer dollars to leave an event promoting clean-energy vehicles in a motorcade of twenty-two fossil-fueled vehicles: Priceless.

.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 12:22 am
Taxes are for the little people:

36 Obama aides owe $833,000 in back taxes.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 12:22 am
“Hendo destroys Michael Pearce and Leslie Cannold”

“Pearce has written back, but as yet without the evidence Henderson seeks, other than a vague and unverified claim on the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’ Infowar website.”

*snort*

spot

28 Jan 12 at 12:24 am
I blame the Chemtrailz. Also, the Tony Abbott.

spot

28 Jan 12 at 12:26 am
Bill Leaks. Loitering within tent.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 12:27 am
With Al Qaeda taking over following a rolled gold Obama foreign policy catastrophe, investors are majorly dumping Egyptian treasury bills – disaster looms.

Other facts in the Asia Times report:

Nearly half of Egyptians are functionally illiterate. Nine-tenths of adult women have suffered genital mutilation. Almost a third of Egyptians marry first or second cousins, the fail-safe indicator of a clan-based society. Half of Egyptians live on less than $2 a day, and must spend half of that on food.

Islam has certainly worked out well since the take-over from the Christians.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 12:29 am
Stop the presses!

Da One who is lowering the seas has just figured out the cause the crisis that propelled him to the Presidency.

State of the Union Address

“We learned that mortgages had been sold to people who couldn’t afford or understand them.”

JamesK

28 Jan 12 at 12:31 am
Whilst I’m no fan of Cannold, she was technically correct in her claims. At least one prominent US politician (i.e. Sarah Palin) has called for Assange to be ‘hunted down like a terrorist’ which is, for all intents and purposes, the same as calling for his assassination.

THR

28 Jan 12 at 12:35 am
JC, I acknowledge no such thing. Here’s a shout out though to Rabz, John Comnenus and Daddy Dave. Cheers for the hate BBQ! Suck good piss and be merry…!

Skuter

28 Jan 12 at 12:35 am
Almost a third of Egyptians marry first or second cousins,

Interesting..Our kid was in and out of the kids hospital for about 7 years, so I got to know the lay of the land. I couldn’t figure why there were so many Muslims with kids in hospital as the population skew didn’t seem right. A large percentage of the visitors were Muslim (could tell with the headdress).

I asked a doctor once and he told me that nearly all of them were there because of genetic problems.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:40 am
Djokovic is a real gent. Really nice kid.

the only reason he won is because he sprinted up my street several times a week or so ago.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:43 am
They have their scalp for Gillard to claim plausible deniability – but this doesn’t absolve the actions of the “protesters”

In reality, we know it’s all Abbott’s fault.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 12:46 am
Lordy. Was Mr Hodges working there for free? Not even clothing allowance? Dreadful.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 12:49 am
I’m not sure it works that way anymore Fleeced. The lying slapper can claim deniability although I have my doubts she didn’t know when you see her looking for the camera twice in her exchange with the security guy.

More importantly the voter is simply going to see this as another Labor fuckup. I think people are way past excusing them anymore. Those days are way past.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:52 am
Brilliant match. I love watching both of these players. If only Murray didn’t go the fade in/fade out/choke and give away so many easy points. And new coach Lendl spent the evening channeling the Sphinx. He’s going to be good for Murray who needs to develop some mental strength and emotional control.

First saw Djokovic up close at the Kooyong classic in 2006 when he was still doing the player imitations. He’s the real deal.

Were the sprints uphill JC? He did look like he might run out of legs several times in the match.

Megan

28 Jan 12 at 12:53 am
Yea Megan uphill about a dozen times and about the same number doing it sideways.

I despise that hill, it never ends and is a constant cause of argument with wifey, who wants to say walk to go out eating while I prefer driving.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:58 am
We have the same problem here, although there is little argument about it. I walk them for fitness, he prefers to torture himself by navigating them on a bicycle. It matters not in which direction you are headed, there is a bloody great hill to climb first.

Megan

28 Jan 12 at 1:08 am
JC, just pull the “achy knees” card… men are allowed to do that as soon as they’re over 40. Of course… then she’ll probably make you go to the doctor.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:08 am
If true he’s finished.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) — Mitt and Ann Romney failed to list an unknown amount of investment income from a variety of sources, including a Swiss bank account, on financial disclosure forms filed last year, the presidential hopeful’s campaign announced Thursday as it worked to correct the omissions.

Also missing is income from at least 20 different investment funds in the Romneys’ blind trusts that are either not listed on his disclosure or contradict information listed on the former Massachusetts governor’s 2010 tax return. At least one of the 20 is an investment fund held by Ann Romney carries an “offshore” label. It’s part of a fund operated by Bain Capital, the private equity firm Romney ran for 15 years.

A campaign spokeswoman offered no explanation for the omission. She said Thursday the adjustments would be “trivial” and would not alter the overall picture of the Romney’s finances. The former Massachusetts governor has estimated his wealth at as much as $250 million.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/romney-failed-disclose-income-swiss-133459547.html

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:11 am
when you see her looking for the camera twice in her exchange with the security guy.

You may have noticed, JC, that no one is rushing to agree that they can detect what you see. You have as good an imagination as those at LP who interpreted Abbott’s facial expressions as reflecting glee that he had managed to stir up trouble.

Steve from brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 1:12 am
Sarah Palin) has called for Assange to be ‘hunted down like a terrorist’…

No she didn’t. You’ve used quotes to frame a newspaper headline, not what she said.

The original Facebook post:

First and foremost, what steps were taken to stop Wikileaks director Julian Assange from distributing this highly sensitive classified material especially after he had already published material not once but twice in the previous months? Assange is not a “journalist,” any more than the “editor” of al Qaeda’s new English-language magazine Inspire is a “journalist.” He is an anti-American operative with blood on his hands. His past posting of classified documents revealed the identity of more than 100 Afghan sources to the Taliban. Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders?

What if any diplomatic pressure was brought to bear on NATO, EU, and other allies to disrupt Wikileaks’ technical infrastructure? Did we use all the cyber tools at our disposal to permanently dismantle Wikileaks? Were individuals working for Wikileaks on these document leaks investigated? Shouldn’t they at least have had their financial assets frozen just as we do to individuals who provide material support for terrorist organizations?

Most importantly, serious questions must also be asked of the U.S. intelligence system. How was it possible that a 22-year-old Private First Class could get unrestricted access to so much highly sensitive information? And how was it possible that he could copy and distribute these files without anyone noticing that security was compromised?

Palin was absolutely correct on all the details.

Assange the pro-Taliban alleged rapist and Nazi-sympathiser got hundreds of people killed. Capturing and charging him was indeed a matter of urgency.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:16 am
I couldn’t give a shit that no one agrees with me, Steve you Labor shill.

The pertinent fact is that this is deeply embarrassing for the lying slapper and another nail in the coffin of this abomination of a government.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:19 am
Who else did Hodges discuss this with?

Nobody?

Just did it on spec in his jim-jams that morning?

Bullshit.

Stay tuned.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:21 am
JC, just pull the “achy knees” card… men are allowed to do that as soon as they’re over 40. Of course… then she’ll probably make you go to the doctor.

Fleeced

she wouldn’t believe that stuff in a million years. Her standard position is that I’m lying unless proven otherwise… on camera filmed by a disinterested third party.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:22 am
Who else did Hodges discuss this with?

Nobody?

Just did it on spec in his jim-jams that morning?

Bullshit.

Stay tuned.

‘sactly.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:24 am
The Libs aren’t stupid like the ALP who shoot their mouths off and wear hypocrisy with a badge of honour, they can’t really go any further than saying:

It’s poor judgement on the PM’s behalf to hire such a person. The leader of the country was getting advice from someone with no respect for the office of PM or Leader of the Opposition and called in a lynch mob. Not only that, but like one of Roxon’s staffers the guy is obviously a few cards short of a deck and unable to seperate emotion from fact.

sean

28 Jan 12 at 1:30 am
You may have noticed, JC, that no one is rushing to agree that they can detect what you see.

Oh, it’s not that I think he’s wrong about her motive being impure, Steve… to be honest, my reading, from the conversation that they’d “pull (evac) together” was more of a “I don’t want to be seen leaving him behind… I don’t want to look like I’m bailing without him – if we both go, he doesn’t get a ‘win’”

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:33 am
Security protocols were breached.

Who did he call?

The AFP needs to find out.

A Labor figure friendly with the tent yobs?

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:34 am
she wouldn’t believe that stuff in a million years. Her standard position is that I’m lying unless proven otherwise

lol… So you’d need the Doctor’s note beforehand. Hmmm – for achy knees, I guess you have to lay the groundwork over a few years. Sadly, they run in my family (On my mother’s side, it seems. My dad’s side has diabetes *sigh*)

Yeah, I forgot she believed Bird that you were “lying about him on the Internet”

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:36 am
The science is settled:

Sixteen Concerned Scientists: No Need to Panic About Global Warming.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:39 am
Reports suggest he didn’t call the embassy directly, but called someone to call them. (The libs should refer to the second party as a “fixer” – media love language like that, and would run with it. “Labor staffer called a fixer to incite riot”

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:39 am
Great point. This is a security breach and the AFP must look into it.

The libs ought to say that once the gain government they will force such an inquiry and demand legal sanction.

This is more than enough with these Canberra tax eaters

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:40 am
The Libs aren’t stupid like the ALP who shoot their mouths off and wear hypocrisy with a badge of honour, they can’t really go any further than saying:

“It’s poor judgement on the PM’s behalf to hire such a person…”

The “bad guys” often win, because they’re not afraid to hit below the belt.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:41 am
DRUDGE brings the Obama numbers:

Food Stamps Up 45%; Federal Handouts Up 32%…

REAL GDP COLLAPSE: 1.7% FOR YEAR

And…

Obama: Bush Is Food Stamp President, Not Me…

Worst president in American history.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:42 am
The “bad guys” often win, because they’re not afraid to hit below the belt.

I know, the right are such softcocks.

When Bird talks about a shadow government he has a point. In Australia’s case it’s the APS. It’s fucking rat nest of leftism.

If the coalition doesn’t clean this mess up they don’t deserve to be on government.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:45 am
oops in..

JC

28 Jan 12 at 1:45 am
A heartbeat away…

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:52 am
Ah, Biden… so embarrassing. He’d make a better President than Obama though, since he’s more dumb than he is evil.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:56 am
If true he’s finished.

A blind trust has managed Romney’s investments for over a decade JC.

JamesK

28 Jan 12 at 1:57 am
“I know, the right are such softcocks.”

Indeed. Abbott supports the aboriginal PC-nonsense, for instance. In fact, I believe his “time to move on” comment was meant as support for “moving to the next step” (which he erroneously believes is recognition in the constitution). Funnily enough, it did the job in scuttling it anyway – thanks to the overreaction of leftist douche-bags. (I like to think it would have failed anyway, but now it has more chance of doing so)

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 1:59 am
Not all of it would be a blind trust, James. I would have thought that only applies when the person holds a government position and Romney hasn’t held one for years.

I’m not suggesting it was untoward, but they’ll go after him over this.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 2:10 am
This is toxic poison… Romney says nobody should get angry about ObamaCare:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01/it-is-worth-getting-angry-about/

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 2:15 am
As much as I think Obama should go, I just can’t get excited about any of the Republican candidates. It’s quite depressing.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 2:23 am
I kept telling myself that as bad as Obama was, it might be good in the long run, as it would force Repubs to take stock. The Tea Party gave me hope in that regard, but this lineup…

Thank goodness for Operation Counterweight!

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 2:26 am
~~Mike~~ ~~Steve~~ ~~Peter~~ ~~Bruce~~ Dan Riehl on Romney’s blind trust “ruse”.

spot

28 Jan 12 at 2:26 am
It was a bit that way…

[T]he debate in Jacksonville, sponsored by the Republican Party of Florida and the Hispanic Leadership Network, was one, big, fat dysfunctional Christmas dinner with the relatives: you know the kind: the one you swear every year you’re going to skip but you go because you feel obligated and by the end you just feel tired and bloated and wish everyone would shut the hell up.

spot

28 Jan 12 at 2:29 am
“…was one, big, fat dysfunctional Christmas dinner with the relatives: you know the kind: the one you swear every year you’re going to skip…”

Slight OT, but: Such Christmas dinners are such a common meme, that I suppose it must be true – but I’ve never experienced that. Perhaps I’m just one of those whacky/annoying relatives who assume everyone is enjoying the celebration, but I think it’s more than that – I think I was lucky to be raised in that sort of family. I’ve never had a Christmas gathering with less than a dozen people – and these days, it’s pushing thirty. Wouldn’t have it any other way!

I was astonished when I went to uni, how many people genuinely hated their parents.

It’s hip to be square… right?

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 2:41 am
Hmmm… after humming “Hip to be Square” for a while, it morphed into “Power of Love“…

Now I’m thinking about trains…

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 2:53 am
I was astonished when I went to uni, how many people genuinely hated their parents.

I don’t ‘genuinely hate’ any member of my family, or extended family for that matter.

That said, some of them are best appreciated from the other side of the world.

spot

28 Jan 12 at 2:56 am
Gillard is toast. Rudd to be reinstated. Oakeshott and Windsor to be put on the spot…Bring on the first sitting week. Purely my speculations of course. The stupidity of this is mind boggling. M0nty, you’re a touch quiet…defend this shit, arsehole! C’mon I fucking dare you!

Skuter

28 Jan 12 at 2:56 am
M0nty, you’re a touch quiet…

He’s in a closed meeting with GetUp!, focus-grouping how to best pin this latest goat rodeo on Tony Abbott.

spot

28 Jan 12 at 3:00 am
Ecofascism now appears to extend into just about every facet of government. Not only does it ban sensible light bulbs and cheap hot water systems, and maddeningly increase the cost of basic electricity charges with a 20% “renewable” target, but it extorts payments to Greenpeace from business.

A recent article by James Delingpole highlights this type of racketeering. Pressure groups representing nobody, and activists who white ant government bureaucracy, determine what is “best” for the rest of us. Business is cowed to accept whatever some non-accountable, unelected NGO determines what is and what is not “environmentally friendly”. In this case, it is extorted payments to the “Forest Stewardship Council (FSC)”, a Greenpeace front organisation.

In Delingpole’s article “Greenpeace’s forest policy is unsustainable” he exposes how Greenpeace is threatening retailers and manufacturers to exclusively use one particular forest certifier, the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC), over all other forest certification bodies. It doesn’t matter that there are a range of independent, third-party standards.

Delingpole continues. “Greenpeace tried a similar strategy in North America, pushing home improvement retailers, home builders, and other wood and paper product purchasers to buy only FSC-labelled product. But home improvement retailers and home builders eventually realized they could provide better value to their customers — while still ensuring sustainable forest practices — by giving preference to a range of forest certification standards. Having failed to secure an FSC monopoly in North America, Greenpeace is now attempting to do so in Asia.”

This is happening in Australia. Australia’s largest local government, Brisbane City Council, is nominally a Liberal administration. It is larger than some State governments. You would think it was immune to this stupidity. But no. I look on their web site and in their Procurement Plan,all construction and maintenance activity is to use “Forest Stewardship Council (FSC) timbers”!

How many other governments are doing this? How insidious are Greenpeace activists in government bureaucracies?. As there are state and local government elections coming up in Queensland, I would urge everyone concerned with this development to contact their local candidates to get their views on this.

I also note that Brisbane City Council requires 100% “green” energy. How much does this cost taxpayers? Another good question to you local candidates.

oil shrill

28 Jan 12 at 6:12 am
Two protests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrvMwLwo0gM&sns=em

Victoria3220

28 Jan 12 at 6:24 am
After what has happened in Australia over the last 48 hours, I will vote NO in any proposed Referendum to change the Constitution.

Mike of Marion

28 Jan 12 at 6:30 am
Is the Gillard ex-staffer Mr Hodges a “graduate” of the Centre of Advanced Journalism?

Mike of Marion

28 Jan 12 at 7:44 am
Laurie Oakes on his high horse playing partisan politics on behalf of Labor last week:

And the alternative prime minister of Australia thought it was an appropriate subject for humour.

He treated the tragedy as a joke in a bid to score domestic political points on asylum seeker policy. It is hard to think of anything grubbier.

I’ve got an idea about something grubbier Laurie. How about a staffer of a senior leader trying to stir up a race riot? As the Daily Telegraph reported next to Laurie’s article today:

A source at the event said they had witnessed Mr Hodges and another staffer from the PMO speaking to several members of the crowd outside, around 20 minutes before the protesters charged the windows, sparking a dramatic evacuation of both Ms Gillard and Mr Abbott from the building.

Laurie begs to differ, this is how he reported the action by the staffer in his column today:

Sure, a member of the Prime Minister’s media staff acted foolishly by indirectly passing on information about Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s movements, but that in no way justifies what followed.

Grubby is a silly joke, not actions to direct a race riot, that is just “foolish”

Token

28 Jan 12 at 8:20 am
Isn’t he just a fat slug, token? He looks like he comes out of his shell.

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 9:23 am
Rhiannon’s secret rendezvous with KGB

I always suspected it was more than just ideological.

DavidLeyonhjelm

28 Jan 12 at 9:25 am
The story is warming up, BoltA details how the more than one staffer from the Prime Ministers Office is in this:

Radio presenter Ray Hadley said on air that Alice Springs Aboriginal activist Barbara Shaw was contacted by a member of the Prime Minister’s staff before the protest converged on the Lobby.

Ms Shaw told Fairfax Media she learned of Mr Abbott’s presence when an unidentified non-indigenous female walked to the tent embassy from the Lobby to inform her Mr Abbott was standing outside the restaurant in an adjacent coffee shop.

‘’I asked her, ‘what’s wrong with Tony Abbott, what has he done now?’’’Ms Shaw said.

‘’And that’s when she said Tony Abbott was over at the coffee shop making statements to press about closing down … the Aboriginal tent embassy.’’

Notice it was:

A. one person walking from the restaurant into the tent embassy,
B. then another contact from a female to call Shaw

Let’s see how Gillard gets the media to “Town Mode” this scandal.

Token

28 Jan 12 at 9:26 am
The summary:

No, it wasn’t well-based. This was a riot based in part on a false rumor and tip-off peddled by the Prime Minister’s own office. It is shocking – truly shocking – to have Labor trying to stoke up racial tensions for political advantage. I suspect this example is actually just symbolic of a wider pathology.

What reasonable person could not agree with this summary:

Here’s what we need to know:

Who did Tony Hodges speak to in passing on Abbott’s alleged comments and his whereabouts? What precisely did he say? What did he intend? Did he knowingly pass on false information about what Abbott had said? Who, if anyone, in Gillard’s office told Hodges to do this? Who, if anyone, in Gillard’s office knew beforehand he was doing this? Has the office leaked such information in the past? Was anyone else fed the false information about Abbott?

Token

28 Jan 12 at 9:28 am
So the leaking is starting on that filthy disgusting Rhiannon about her own and her family’s activities with the KGB.

What a family.

Henderson was right.

Te lefts response? Silence.

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 9:47 am
Some time ago, we were shooting the breeze about Facebook being IPO’ed this year and how to buy its stock prior to the issue.

I told you guys there was only one way to get long of this stock and it was through GSVC a Goldie offshoot that holds a swag of this stock.
Facebook is a serious stock and it’s being rumoured that online gambling is making a move into social networking. This seems to be true and if it is Facebook will be the first company making 100 billion in revenues. You’ve heard it here at the Cat first. I’ll repeat Facebook will be the first company making $100 billion revenues.

Anyways GSVC was up almost 20% last night. I own a decent size but not nearly enough.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:GSVC

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 10:01 am
Gab

Thanks for tipping off Bolt the other day.

Boy on a bike

28 Jan 12 at 10:14 am
Hodges is now scanning the help wanteds looking for a job as a slug balancer.

Pickles

28 Jan 12 at 10:32 am
THR:

Whilst I’m no fan of Cannold, she was technically correct in her claims. At least one prominent US politician (i.e. Sarah Palin) has called for Assange to be ‘hunted down like a terrorist’ which is, for all intents and purposes, the same as calling for his assassination.

Erm, under Bush, the USA took terrorists into custody and stuck ‘em in Guantanamo. So that’s not ‘assassination’.

Under Obama, the US kills terrorists with hellfires fired from drones. THAT’s not assassination either.

And even ‘assassination’ is not murder.

Check the definitions.

As usual, you draw a long bow, and fail.

Mk50 of Brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 10:41 am
even ‘assassination’ is not murder.

Really? So James Earl Ray is not a murderer.

Les Majesty

28 Jan 12 at 10:45 am
Who knew.

Les Majesty

28 Jan 12 at 10:46 am
Facebook is a serious stock and it’s being rumoured that online gambling is making a move into social networking. This seems to be true and if it is Facebook will be the first company making 100 billion in revenues.

Slight problem, being that Zuckerberg probably doesn’t want to go to prison, seeing how online gambling is seriously illegal in the US and A.

Les Majesty

28 Jan 12 at 10:47 am
JC, plenty of companies have $100bn+ in annual revenues.

Les Majesty

28 Jan 12 at 10:49 am
Does the involvement of the PM’s personal office staff in Lobbygate reach the threshold for Windsor and Oakshott to remove support? Of course not but the Libs need to push them on in this. Lobbygate is a problem for Gillard because her behavior re Wilkie proved she is a liar who will say and do anything to stay in office.

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 10:51 am
Has the ALP had that ” brainstorming session ” yet ?

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 11:04 am
From reading, I think it’s starts 2pm Sunday, Jump.

Whatever happened to the 900 ‘ideas’ that frothed up from the last brainstorming session? (Kenvi’s 20/20 Summit of Ideas, which cost taxpayers hiw much?)

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 11:08 am
Jumpnmcar,

No, but they have had a cafe storming session.

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 11:12 am
Les

yes bit not in social networking.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:21 am
sigh, we’re about to have State elections here in Qld and Rudd is apparently so popular here he’ll be in campaign mode
Don’t know about Gillard, was watching the tennis last night when her face was picked out of the crowd by the television and she was booed
Did anyone see that as well or was I dreaming?

val majkus

28 Jan 12 at 11:21 am
It is shocking – truly shocking – to have Labor trying to stoke up racial tensions for political advantage.

Except in an historical sense.

They’ve been doing the same thing for more than a hundred years. The ALP is the most racist political party in the Anglophone world outside of the American south.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 11:21 am
fucking ipad

not..

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:21 am
The Greens will hire Hodges I would guess.

sean

28 Jan 12 at 11:22 am
Les

They’ll open it up I think. There’s talk about doing so and the US federal government taking a cut.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:23 am
The Greens will hire Hodges I would guess.

I reckon he’d be fighting off offers from them by now. It’s a bidding war between between Repugnant Rhiannon, Tubby Milne and mad dog bob’s offices.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:25 am
Yeah, in the end, government can’t say no to gambling revenue. But online “games” are already doing this. In-game purchases for some of these trashy games come mighty close to games of chance in some cases.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 11:26 am
Don’t know about Gillard, was watching the tennis last night when her face was picked out of the crowd by the television and she was booed
Did anyone see that as well or was I dreaming?

Yea, i saw the slapper too and noticed the boos. She probably thought they were cheering her.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:27 am
Rhiannon comes from such a nice family… KGB connections, rabid communist, and raised a drug dealer to boot.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 11:28 am
Yea, i saw the slapper too and noticed the boos.

Oh, please let her present the final award. Please, please, please!

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 11:30 am
So we already know that Hodges and some other Gillard staffer were involved in the Labor race riot.

Who was this second person?

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 11:32 am
Fleeced:

It will also be $100 bill market cappper too.

I reckon that if Facebook gets to a $100 billion valuation GSVC could end up being a 60 buck stock unless the fuckers there issue more equity and dilute.

The dude running it used to be the goldie’s hedge fund manager for web based stocks. He also has a big interest in the firm.

Goldie’s had to sell out after the writing was on the wall that banks could no longer own internal hedge funds because that geriatric Paul Volcker suggested it to Odumbo, who in turn thought it was a good populist move.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:33 am
I’m sure it will surface eventually, CL. Ray Hadley said he had the names of two. I sill reckon Albo was behind this to take the heat off his lacklustre Hollywood audition.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 11:36 am
Fleeced:

Can you explain to me how online gambling is actually making inroads into Facebook. Do you know what’s happening there.

I also thought it interesting that my prediction that Google’s revenues would lose out to the apps which we saw in their recent reporting.

Google is seriously exposed to apps and facebook and have no real comeback. teach those fuckers a lesson for losing sight of their business and developing windfarms… fucking windfarms!

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:38 am
Prediction: within 48 hours, the love media will run meme about Opposition ‘overegging the riot scandal,’ indication of Abbott’s ‘poor judgement’ etc.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 11:39 am
Gold: Palin bashes GOP establishment.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 11:43 am
Prediction: within 48 hours

Absolutely. There’s much todo already about the bodyguards and the police “overreacting” to the angry violent mob in the meeja and among the lefty chattering chipmunks. So it’s no leap this will transmogrify into Abbott getting all hyped up over nothing. Besides, it was his fault anyway.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 11:45 am
CL

I think the average punter will blame the labor government. It adds another mark against them.

These morons are even fucking up on their holidays. They’re even accumulating negatives when they’re on their hols.

1. The slapper lying to Wilkie

2. Albanese thinking he’s doing a Hollywood movie

3. Labor riff raff starting race riots.

This is in January 2012! Lol

What a fucking team. Even Whitlam at his worst was this bad.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:45 am
Haven’t seen any explicit gambling, JC – and where it occurs, it seems to be be in third party apps (not FB itself). Same with iphone apps, incidentally. I’m sure they’ll be figuring out a way to take a cut. There’s also stand alone websites that offer “free” online games – eg, it might be a multiplayer strategy game.

In the latter case, whilst the game is free, you can purchase online products to help you win your game. These products often have an element of chance in their effect… People who have spent a lot of time building their empire are effectively forced to gamble to defend it.

That path is probably a bit dodgy for facebook… I’m guessing they’d either work out a way to take a cut (like Apple does with their apps) without getting their hands dirty, or look at a more mainstream form of legalised gambling. I’m sure their lobbyists are campaigning for it as I type (no doubt with significant barriers to entry for competitors, under the guise of “protecting the consumer” from fraudulent sites)

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 11:51 am
Loved on of the comments on L Oakes criticism of the AFP for not seeing the problem.

‘Do they really have to plan for the PM’s office inciting a race riot when picking a venue?’

sean

28 Jan 12 at 11:52 am
Penny auction sites are another form of gambling…

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 11:52 am
And this one, Sean:

You’re a goose Oakes, if one of Abbott’s staff had done the same thing you’d be having kittens. I think the fairfax press is beckoning!

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 11:53 am
I’m guessing they’d either work out a way to take a cut (like Apple does with their apps) without getting their hands dirty, or look at a more mainstream form of legalised gambling. I’m sure their lobbyists are campaigning for it as I type (no doubt with significant barriers to entry for competitors, under the guise of “protecting the consumer” from fraudulent sites)

Lol. You’re not that far away, as that was partially what the Morgan Stanley anal(yst) was discussing in a piece a short while ago.

I was about taking cuts and stuff like that.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 11:56 am
JC – “I’ll repeat Facebook will be the first company making $100 billion revenues.”

Not sure what you mean by that??

IBM had revenue of $106.9B for 2011.

stevo

28 Jan 12 at 12:02 pm
Sorry Stevo.

I should have been explicit. I meant in the social networking space.

yes Exxon has revs of $450 billion I think.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:07 pm
Haven’t seen any explicit gambling, JC – and where it occurs, it seems to be be in third party apps (not FB itself). Same with iphone apps, incidentally. I’m sure they’ll be figuring out a way to take a cut.

They take a cut of the revenue generated by in app purchases. In the case of the Zynga deal I think FB gets a 30% cut (one of Zynga’s more popular games is Texas Hold’em).

It’s the same model Apple applies to a lot of 3rd party apps which generate revenue through in app transactions (& more recently extended to commercial works created through iBooks Author). It’s also becoming an increasingly used model in commercial software licensing.

badm0f0

28 Jan 12 at 12:10 pm
Bado

How does it actually work for Facebook?

So if they sell apps and such on the site which is say a game which carries recurring revenue they will continually get a cut of the action. Is that right?

Interesting how they track it. So they must take defacto ownership of what’s sold on the site for products of that sort.

Amazon could have competition too, you know.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:21 pm
Looked at the two protest clip again. It’s bad enough burning the flag, but did I see a poxy little toe-rag spitting on it?

Charles Bourbaki

28 Jan 12 at 12:21 pm
Charles.

We already know they hate the country and what it represents. Fuck’em let them all spit on the flag as it only makes them look worse scum than they already are.

This is fundamental. They should be allowed to desecrate the flag and do what they want within reason as it shows them exactly what they are.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:26 pm
Didn’t realise FB was already doing the percentage thing, bado (I rarely bother with apps on that thing… don’t see the point – it isn’t like iphone, where you’re locked in)

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 12:29 pm
How does it actually work for Facebook?

So if they sell apps and such on the site which is say a game which carries recurring revenue they will continually get a cut of the action. Is that right?

Facebook has actually structured it even better than that. Basically they require all purchases be made using Facebook credits (for which they set the face value, currently $0.10) and they remit the 70% share of revenue to the app owners. The app owners can decide how many credits will buy a given virtual product but FB control the currency so they actually control the price too.

badm0f0

28 Jan 12 at 12:31 pm
So it’s Facebook money.. Re those credits? Shit,Mir it is that’s a form of currency then.

How can you exchange credits for dollars etc? Is there am exchange rate?

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 12:34 pm
Facebook sets the exchange rate & users buy it from them – I think it’s currently $0.10 per credit.

badm0f0

28 Jan 12 at 12:37 pm
Is there am exchange rate?

An exchange rate set my them, by the sounds of it… lol

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 12:38 pm
The fuckers…They set the exchange rate!

That Zuckerberg is a greedy little geek, isn’t he? LOl

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:41 pm
Love the video at Blair’s where a voice out of sight instructs the ‘reporter’ to say that Abbott called for the tents to be removed.

“Will do,” she replies, obediently.

2:46 ->>>>>

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 12:44 pm
Hey, that reporter has nice boobs.

We’ll give her a pass.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 12:49 pm
of course.

I had to play the vid again at that point, as I was too focused on the cleavage and missed the other stuff going on.

She get’s an automatic pass.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 12:53 pm
Breaking:

Hodges riot go-between named:

Labor figure Kim Sattler named as go-between in protest.

Sources at the Aboriginal tent embassy say the mystery intermediary between Julia Gillard’s office and the protesting mob on Australia Day was Kim Sattler.

Ms Sattler is a well-connected Labor figure, who has worked with UnionsACT.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:00 pm
Aboriginal woman Barbara Shaw, who told the crowd of Tony Abbott’s location on Australia Day, confirmed to The Sunday Age that she believed the intermediary was Ms Sattler.

“Now I know who she is and what her position [is], it’s really disappointing,” she said.

“It breaks my heart to know who she is.”

Ms Shaw said she didn’t identify Ms Sattler on sight at the embassy rally but later confirmed her identity speaking to others who were there.

“She said I should let people know Tony Abbott is over there, so I did,” Ms Shaw said.

“I wasn’t the first person she told and the coffee shop is a public area, but there were already people from here going over there.

“I was told and I was told to tell everyone else.”

The ALP organised a race riot and intended for the Opposition Leader to be assaulted.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 1:03 pm
I don’t get it, CL. Why is barbs spilling the beans, as this only gets another Alliance identity into trouble.

What’s her motivation?

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 1:09 pm
Reading that…well lets call it an article, it’s clear the rioting mob reaction is being downplayed. As is the malicious intent and action of the now famous town crier, Mz Sattler. Hey, she merely passed on a message after all. What’s with all the hullabaloo?

Imagine the meeja frenzy if this was…well we know the answer.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 1:11 pm
I know it appears to make her… Barbs …appear as the innocent victim in this, but surely that can’t be her motive. Alliance identities are up to tier fucking neck init.

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 1:13 pm
I know it appears to make her… Barbs …appear as the innocent victim in this, but surely that can’t be her motive. Alliance identities are up to tier fucking neck init.

She thinks this will take the heat off the Tent mob and provides causation. It’s never their fault, always someone else made them do it. And really, how often have we seen the left turn on its own? hey’d eat their grandmothers to try and look innocent. Look, we’re not exactly on walkabout in the domain of intelligence and clear stratagem now are we.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 1:17 pm
Yea gab… With friends like these people who needs enemies.

Wow. The tenters just sold the alliance down the river.

Lol.

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 1:20 pm
Besides, there’s now no need to hand this all over to the AFP, as has been demanded by the Libs. Hey, guilty parties have come forth – nothing more to see, all done and dusted.

Labor Union Party war cry: All for one and one for all. And every man for himself.
No honour among thieves.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 1:24 pm
For what it is worth, pub discussion yesterday (prior to the phone calls being made public) had some sympathy for the ALP, seeing Gillard as a victim of mob violence and blaming the ratbag protesters for the day’s events.

The icing on the cake seems to be the same feral scum buring and spitting on the Australian flag at Parliament house.

Recurring theme; ” . . and these dickheads want us to vote to amend the Constitution?”

Pedro the Ignorant

28 Jan 12 at 1:26 pm
I predict the ALP is about to rediscover the allure of “moving on”.

Ooh Honey Honey

28 Jan 12 at 1:26 pm
So,
1 journalist asked specific question about closing tent embassy.

2. Abbott answers conservatively.

3 Abbotts answer gets filtered through Hodges ( ALP adviser ) to Sattler ( unionist ) to Shaw ( Green candidate ) to mob.

4 see above footage.

I wanna know who the original question asker is?, and who prompted he/she to ask the question?

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 1:33 pm
The ALP organised a race riot and intended for the Opposition Leader to be assaulted.

Not only that, but surely Sattler must have known Gillard was there as well? It would seem they incited a race riot by misrepresenting what Abbott had said and set them upon both Abbott and Gillard, their own leader. Are they so twisted with blind hatred of Abbott that they’d send a potentially violent mob down upon their own leader? Or is this part of some Machiavellian plot? The mind boggles.

Andreas

28 Jan 12 at 1:35 pm
I predict the ALP is about to rediscover the allure of “moving on”.

Haha, yeh , ” face the confidence with future “

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 1:37 pm
pub discussion yesterday (prior to the phone calls being made public) had some sympathy for the ALP, seeing Gillard as a victim of mob violence and blaming the ratbag protesters for the day’s events.

The SMH poll has 45% thinking Gillard was made to look ‘more real’ by the ‘security incident’. Although I’d guess revelations of her own staffer’s machinations might change things somewhat.

Andreas

28 Jan 12 at 1:40 pm
Excellent banking reform suggestion.

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=12671

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 1:43 pm
Nice lesson in ‘civility’ from teh Left.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 1:43 pm
We now know Gillard’s excuse, which is ‘I am so incompetent I can’t even run my own office.’ Having seen the way she runs the country we will believe this meme.

Abbott’s line should be that: ‘If you can’t run your office, you can’t run the country.’

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 2:17 pm
Are they so twisted with blind hatred of Abbott that they’d send a potentially violent mob down upon their own leader?

Yes, Andreas, they are. The aim is to get rid of Abbott, not because they think him silly or obnoxious – well that too but you could point the finger at many pollies on that score. It’s simply to make Abbott and the Coalition look as bad, inept, destabilise the party.

We not talking rocket science level of strategy here, just dirty scummy tricks. Wouldn’t even call this latest a tactic, which implies some level of intelligence.

Their actions stem from their emotions – the nasty, malevolent kind – not rational civil thought. As for being twisted enough to sick their lackeys onto Abbott, I don’t believe they actually thought it through. If they did, if they really really expected the bedraggled mob to rise and form an angry force with intent, to put Abbott and Gillard in harm’s way, then heaven help us because what more are they then capable of orchestrating?

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 2:21 pm
Look who is the most respected “filmmaker” in iran.

None other than lard ball himself.

Saves on doing your own propaganda.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/01/12/michael-moore-is-most-well-known-filmmaker-in-iran-director-claims/

Jc

28 Jan 12 at 2:48 pm
Labor Abo-wrangler Kim Sattler wrote this earlier today:

On her Facebook page this morning she berated Mr Abbott for his role in the fracas.

“Tony Abbott is like your typical bar-room brawler who starts a fight and then disappears like a coward when it is in full swing,” she wrote.

She organised a race riot so she could call Abbott a coward for being evacuated.

What a morally revolting pile of vomit.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 2:52 pm
Yasser masser:

Ms Shaw said she didn’t identify Ms Sattler on sight at the embassy rally but later confirmed her identity speaking to others who were there.

“She said I should let people know Tony Abbott is over there, so I did,” Ms Shaw said …

“I was told and I was told to tell everyone else.”

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 2:54 pm
What so depressing about this squalid affair is how it shows a ‘white overseer’ ethos on behalf of the ALP, and ‘self-imposed slavery’ among the albino-’aboriginal activist’ population.

That may sound harsh, but look at what just happened. The AAA acted exactly as chattel property should. The media-relations overseer used a union foreman (probably for plausible deniability) to tell the slaves what they should do.

And they did. It’s rent-a-mob behaviour, and for what?

A few more welfare dollars? The approval of their owners as nice little mendicants who do what they are told, when they are told?

This is what left-wing AAA are reduced to? Scrabbling about doing the bidding of low-grade racists who hold them in contempt, treat them like slaves and a rent-a-mob?

very sad, and deeply depressing.

Mk50 of Brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 3:05 pm
From Tim Blair, Michelle Grattan on the carbon tax protestors: “Australians expect their prime minister to be treated with a degree of respect … they are not likely to be attracted by the crudeness that was on display.”

But having the Prime Minister forced to flee from a restaurant while trussed like a turkey under the armpit of one of her bodyguards is fine and nothing-to-see-here: “Let’s keep the events of Australia Day in perspective.”

Andreas

28 Jan 12 at 3:10 pm
Good girl, Michelle. Treat for you later.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 3:12 pm
This is unbelievable. The fraud who started the tent embassy, and led the attacks on the PM and Abbott is in fact a stinking rich grazier.

He lives on and runs a sheep and cattle property on his ancestral lands on both sides of the New South Wales and Queensland border in the lower Ballone river system.

http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/media/interview/#ixzz1kiwCuvGF

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 3:27 pm
Michael Andreson that is.

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 3:28 pm
Just heard Gillard’s presser on Sky. I believed everything she said because she has such a long and public record of honesty, integrity and high ethical standards. Because of this I instantly agreed when she took umbrage at Mr Abbott insinuating that Gillard can competently run her own office. Sarc off.

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 3:28 pm
MK50

What so depressing about this squalid affair is how it shows a ‘white overseer’ ethos on behalf of the ALP, and ‘self-imposed slavery’ among the albino-’aboriginal activist’ population.

That’s why they’re so desperate to rebrand white carpetbaggers like La Behrendt-Lavarch as black.

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 3:31 pm
Ms [Barbara] Shaw said she didn’t identify Ms Sattler on sight at the embassy rally but later confirmed her identity speaking to others who were there.

“She said I should ~~let people know Tony Abbott is over there~~ stick my head in the oven, so I did,” Ms Shaw said.

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 3:38 pm
Blairs law strikes again, Kim is a mover and shaker in the anti-Israel lobby

The conference was launched with a public meeting on October 29 at the Victorian State Library, chaired by ABC satirist Bryan Dawe and addressed by Palestinian artist and activist Rafeef Ziadah, the Australian Society for Palestinian Iraqi Refugees Emergency’s Yousef Alreemawi, Israeli editor Ofer Neiman and Unions ACT’s Kim Sattler.

And a warmenista..
Leigh Hughes said 600 people gathered in Canberra’s Garema Place for a climate emergency rally and festival.

Speakers included Richard Denniss from the Australia Institute; Kim Sattler from Unions ACT; Shane Ratenbury from the ACT Greens; Clayton McDonald from the Socialist Alliance ; climate scientist Andrew Glikson and Emma Kefford from Climate Action Canberra.

Gee what are the odds?

thefrollickingmole

28 Jan 12 at 3:39 pm
Rabz, Skuter and Daddy Dave, thanks for the company last night, and the hangover.

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 3:42 pm
I’d be more surprised if she wasn’t a warmmonering Jew hating unionist and Labor dogsbody.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 3:42 pm
Gab
Yeah i know, but its like they are taking the piss out of themselves with their conformity.

thefrollickingmole

28 Jan 12 at 3:45 pm
Jesus Christ. This Lefty Kim Sattler is not happy unless she is trying provoke race hate against Aborigines or Jews!

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 3:46 pm
Every time a rock gets turned over, another of these cockroaches from the unions scuttles out.

The old “36 faceless men” now includes faceless women and is alive and well in the 21st Century.

Election now. Sack this lot ASP and consign them to the dustbin of history.

Pedro the Ignorant

28 Jan 12 at 3:55 pm
It’s the cockroach theory. There’s always another and another…

They are so freaking useless it’s beyond funny. However the are also equally malicious evil pricks.

The libs not only should win, but also pay them back double. Keep grounding them down.

This should be investigated even after they lose office.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 4:00 pm
Here’s Moir’s contribution. Unbelievable.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/cartoons

Viva

28 Jan 12 at 4:06 pm
It is time for Barbara Shaw and Michael Anderson to call a press conference and say ‘Sorry’ to the nation.

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 4:07 pm
Abbott is a target, along with Gillard, of a violent angry mob whipped up with the aid of a PM staffer, a Unionist and a wealthy landowner yet Moir has the temerity to depict Abbott assaulting an Aborigine.

Teh Left have lost the plot and are now entering shark jumping territory.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 4:12 pm
Wow, now even Michael Anderson has come out and said they were “set up”!

Tent embassy spokesman Michael Anderson says Ms Sattler told him the Prime Minister’s office wanted to speak to him.

“All I can say is that someone set us up, they set the Prime Minister up, they set Abbott up, and they knew feelings were running and emotions were running high here,” he said.

“I think they knew that reaction would occur.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-28/indigenous-activists-name-row-informant/3798228?WT.svl=news0

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 4:18 pm
Greetings all, just been enjoying some summer weather.

Yabbott should get litijus on moir’s flabby a*se…

Apologies also for my intemperate remarks the other evening.

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 4:20 pm
Wow, only 48 hours later, quick as lightning Anderson works it all out. Nothing gets past him.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 4:22 pm
Peter

Anderson is just doing what any rat would do when deserting a sinking ship. He basically knows voterland perceive them as equal to skunk odor now, so he’s playing the victim.. They were set up.

Two questions…

BOAB yesterday raised to important question about how many Greenslime staffers were there.

And CL’s, who was the reporter that asked Abbott the question.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 4:24 pm
Michael Anderson has now called for payback spearing of the conspirators. I don’t know what they do with the sheilahs. Even though we are told the Aborigines invented gender equality, I’m pretty sure it’s the nulla nulla for Left Kim Sattler

Mr Anderson said that person would face retribution under Aboriginal law.

‘‘And whoever it was that really promoted that confrontation, we need to take them through the cleaners.

‘‘And I’d like them to hand them back when they finish under White Man law, give him under our law so we can put him under our law as well.’’

http://www.smh.com.au/national/labor-figure-kim-sattler-named-as-gobetween-in-protest-20120128-1qmre.html#ixzz1kjBRKrM6

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 4:29 pm
As usual, their actions were caused by someone else. Not their fault at all. “They” made us do it.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 4:29 pm
Gillard finally confesses.

Ms Gillard said Mr Hodges spoke to Ms Sattler by phone.
“Mr Hodges accurately conveyed to her the statement made by Mr Abbott,” the prime minister said.

“At no point did Mr Hodges say to Ms Sattler that Mr Abbott had suggested that the tent embassy be torn down or removed in any way.”

She said Mr Hodges suggested to Ms Sattler that it may be appropriate for a couple of Aboriginal spokespeople to go to the restaurant to respond to Mr Abbott’s remarks.

“Mr Hodges in taking these actions acted alone and his actions were not authorised. Clearly they are viewed by me as unacceptable.”

I stupidly thought Labor had moved on from the race-baiting tactics of the Keating days. It seems they’re in it deeper than ever.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/pm-denies-adviser-said-embassy-would-go-20120128-1qmxa.html#ixzz1kjDSj8CC

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 4:36 pm
BOAB yesterday raised to important question about how many Greenslime staffers were there.

Barbra Shaw for starters.

And CL’s, who was the reporter that asked Abbott the question.

That’s what i wanna know too.

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 4:36 pm
They have:

-burnt down houses,
-put us billions in debt,
-stolen funds from their own members,
-passed laws to disadvantage their blue collar base while the rest of the world barely moves,
-attempted to send refugees to a country not a signatory to the convention,
-called for totalitarian controls on pokies,
-taxed alco-o-pops,
-taxed Qld’s after a flood and then also all those who donated via charity in order to fill budget holes,
-knifed a PM in his first term,
-given union thugs the power to destroy their own company.

and now

-caused a race riot and almost got their leader beaten by an angry mob.

The ALP/Greens are a clusterfuck of disaster.

sean

28 Jan 12 at 4:40 pm
Ms Gillard said Mr Hodges spoke to Ms Sattler by phone.
“Mr Hodges accurately conveyed to her the statement made by Mr Abbott,” the prime minister said.

“At no point did Mr Hodges say to Ms Sattler that Mr Abbott had suggested that the tent embassy be torn down or removed in any way.”

She said Mr Hodges suggested to Ms Sattler that it may be appropriate for a couple of Aboriginal spokespeople to go to the restaurant to respond to Mr Abbott’s remarks.

“Mr Hodges in taking these actions acted alone and his actions were not authorised. Clearly they are viewed by me as unacceptable.”

Nice quote, Peter.

I do not believe one word of it, either from Mz Gillard or Mr Hodges.

Compulsive Liars.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 4:40 pm
And CL’s, who was the reporter that asked Abbott the question.

…that and who was the unionist or other Labor acolyte who called the reporter and suggested the question be directed to Abbott?

Any Alliance pollie asked the same question on the day?

Remember the election when Labor sent a list of questions to ask Gillard? How to frame these questions and what to ask Abbott? And some “suggestions” on how to write up their “reportage”?

It’s not the first time HB this sort of tawdry attempt to “bring down Abbott” has occurred.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 4:50 pm
Sean:
You’re of course leaving out the ‘quiry into the hate meja.

The NBN without any benefits quantification.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 4:52 pm
THE question.

“Mr Abbott, today is also the 40th anniversary of Tent Embassy in Canberra. Do you think it’s still relevant or should it move? ”

His response was Prime Ministerial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR-XMV0bIU8

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 4:55 pm
Interesting that Hodges advised Gillards head media dude of his phone call on Thursday afternoon, just a few hours after it happened, but Gillard herself claims to have only being first briefed on Hodges self admitted involvement almost 24 hours later.

It is surprising that her media head would not have mentioned this at all during this period.

Yet with Abbotts comments on Sky News from today she was ready to distort them just a fews hours later.

DavidJ

28 Jan 12 at 4:55 pm
In the spirit of reconciliation we should deliver them to the tenties for traditional punishment. Or at least tell the tenties where they are?

Pickles

28 Jan 12 at 4:56 pm
Poop, sorry bout the freakin great TV screen .

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 4:57 pm
Jesus.
What a bloody goat rodeo…

Winston Smith

28 Jan 12 at 4:58 pm
Gotta love YouTube:

Satanic Racist Lesbian Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott hide from Angry Protesters on Invasion Day.

———————————-

Not sure who the reporter was, JC.

Seems to have been a pretty benign pool interview in which that female reporter asked the question. The way she framed it, though – should it stay or should it “move on” – was definitely headline baiting.

Abbott smacked it away masterfully.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:08 pm
Michael Andreson now tells the nation to “move on”. Seriously, you couldn’t make this up.

One of the founders of the Aboriginal tent embassy, Michael Anderson, said people should “get over” the protest and denied it had been violent.

“We’re over it, so get over it and move on,” he said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/flag-burning-inflames-race-protest/story-fn7x8me2-1226255748414

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 5:08 pm
Seriously, why do all Australian trade union sheilah leaders look like Sharon Burrow?

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/01/28/1226256/033509-kim-sattler.jpg

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 5:11 pm
It’s blown up on the Labor plantation so now Ando and the Yasser Masser brigade are telling everyone to drop it.

What despicable pond scum.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:12 pm
That would send them hog wild and cause more brain spasms.

Hit them when they’re down and keep going. Defense gets you nowhere.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 5:17 pm
WTF?

Herald Sun article on Gillard’s press conference:

The issue was sparked after Mr Abbott said it was time for Aboriginal activists to “move on” when asked if the protest movement was still relevant 40 years after it was set up.

Mr Abbott yesterday tried to distance himself from his remarks, saying he did not advocate tearing down the tent embassy.

But conservative think tank Menzies House, co-founded by Mr Abbott’s colleague Cory Bernardi, has set up a petition calling for the embassy’s closure.

This is so massively dishonest it could have been written by such storied liars as Joseph Goebbels or Julia Gillard.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:20 pm
Does Sattler use the same toothbrush as Albo?

DavidJ

28 Jan 12 at 5:21 pm
Freaking IPad deleted the top of the comment.

The libs should stoke the fire. Someone like Bernardi who doesn’t give a shit should publicly wonder if it would be a good idea to clear that eyesore from public grounds once they win government.

It would give Abbott a shot at acting all conciliatory too by not ruling it out entirely and perhaps suggesting they can take up some leased space in an underground car some where.

They have to put the eventual kibosh on the grievance industry before they eat everything.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 5:22 pm
“to clear that eyesore”

Or to put it more correctly, that “illegal slum” which is a law unto itself.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/illegal-slum-exempt-from-rules/story-fn59niix-1226255765714

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 5:26 pm
Well, I can’t wait for 7 Feb, there’ll be blood on the floor of parliament, and Slipper presiding.
Every time Albo speak, imaginative interjections abound.
Will Thomson be there?
What will Wilkie do?

But there are 10 more sleeps, what else could possibly happen in that time.

Any polls out soon?

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 5:27 pm
leased space in an underground car some where

.
Careful JC that’s inflamatory suggesting they get buried.

Biota

28 Jan 12 at 5:27 pm
This is a fucking joke. People here were making noise about the OWS movement littering public squares and we’ve had a similar thing going on for 40 years!

Clear it out. Get rid of it and if they cause trouble charge them.

It’s unsanitary and offensive.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 5:29 pm
Bolt’s story link seems to confirm that friendly journalists were involved:

Ms Gillard said journalists at the event had told Mr Hodges that Mr Abbott had made comments earlier in relation to the tent embassy and called for people to move on.

‘’Mr Hodges in having received this information from journalists waiting at The Lobby restaurant formed the view that these comments should be responded to,’’ Ms Gillard told reporters in Melbourne.

Here’s the classic Gillard lie:

‘’At no point did Mr Hodges say to Ms Sattler that Mr Abbott had suggested that the tent embassy be torn down or removed in any way.’’

No, he just lied about Abbott having uncomplicatedly called for the tent bums to move on – at the behest of dishonest journalists looking to get Abbott.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:30 pm
Davidj

Does Sattler use the same toothbrush as Albo?

GOLD!!

jumpnmcar

28 Jan 12 at 5:32 pm
So that softcock Howard went for 11 yeas without clearing it out? Fme.

It’s this sort of crap that destroys the conservatives. It’s basically softcockery at its worst.

How the fuck you allow a slum to take hold on public land in front of parliament for 40 fucking years?

don’t be spineless libs. Get rid of it and fine the fucks.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 5:32 pm
Oh yeah. I can just see the headlines if the Lobs got rid of it. Raaaaccccciiist! Abbott sets Aboriginal relations back 40,000 years. And then it’s off to Jugde Mordy for Abbott.

Tent Embassy, they’re the Untouchables, in the Indian sense.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 5:36 pm
This is so massively dishonest it could have been written by such storied liars as Joseph Goebbels or Julia Gillard

Sheesh, CL!

Now you are insulting Goebbels with comparisons like that, boy, are you lucky he’s dead.

Mk50 of Brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 5:39 pm
So that softcock Howard went for 11 yeas without clearing it out? Fme.

I seem to recall them wanting to give them a proper building or somesuch to get rid of the unsightly crap, with predictable results.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 5:40 pm
Seriously, why do all Australian trade union sheilah leaders look like Sharon Burrow?

Peter Patton
28 Jan 12 at 5:11 pm

It makes sense if you look at it this way: if you looked like that what other options are available to you?

Entropy

28 Jan 12 at 5:41 pm
This Anderson lad. Doth he spake for the judean people’s front or the people’s front of Judea?

Pickles

28 Jan 12 at 5:43 pm
Seriously, why do all Australian trade union sheilah leaders look like Sharon Burrow?

Evidence.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:44 pm
A couple of harsh comments at that YouTube link.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:46 pm
Is whitey this frightened of his or her own shadow? We leave a slum in font of the parliament for 40 years and the conservatives even offer them a building?

Are we this groveling. How disgusting we’ve become.

It doesn’t get better then this anywhere in the world and we lack so much confidence in our achievements.

How appalling.

JC

28 Jan 12 at 5:47 pm
We even paid for the tents and chairs.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 5:59 pm
JC

The thing is, the non-Aboriginal population of Australia stopped being just “whitey” a long time ago. For over a decade now, during the greatest immigration boom, the major groups are Chinese, Indian, and all sorts of other Asians, Africans, Arabs, and so on. It is a nonsense nowadays for these people to bang on about whitey.

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 6:08 pm
Abbott must take brutal revenge when he finally gets in. Fairfax must be killed and left outside for the vultures. The ABC should be shut down with its equipment and commercial rights quickly liquidated or dispersed so that nobody can put it back together. Anyone known to be a Labor sympathiser in the APS must be sacked immediately.

Fisky

28 Jan 12 at 6:10 pm
Fisky, the thing is Abbott’s stocks are higher than any other MP, among real Aborigines on the ground in northern QLD and the NT. He has been spending time in those communities for over a decade now. Imagine a Labor MP doing that, or a luvvie like Behrendt-Lavarch? Quelle horreur, sweetie.

Peter Patton

28 Jan 12 at 6:13 pm
Gillard back to her usual interminable vuvuzela-like drone:

JULIA Gillard says she is absolutely furious at Tony Abbott’s insinuation that she was behind the violent protests that broke out at the Lobby restaurant in Canberra.

“For it to be insinuated that I played some role to detract attention from the Australians who had performed miracles during natural disasters makes me furious. It’s absolutely typical of his negativity and tendency to go too far,” Ms Gillard said in a statement.

Yeah of all the people for Gillard to be furious at it’s Abbott. Maybe Gillard, he’s furious at you and the oafish machinations of your idiot staff that brought a hoard of protestors salivating for his blood over comments he didn’t even make.

Andreas

28 Jan 12 at 6:20 pm
I am beginning to think that JC’s thesis could be correct. We now have two members of Gillard’s staff seen speaking to the protestors 20 minutes before the race riot. And as the riot was heating up, we see Gillard feeling for the camera as she asks after Tony Abbott’s safety. I think she might well have known about this whole set up.

Fisky

28 Jan 12 at 6:22 pm
LOL Abbott insinuated did he? Where?

And if he did “insinuate” then he deserves a good smack! Say it out loud and directly Abbott, don’t mince your words.

Up until this point, I didn’t agree with JC about Gillard’s prior knowledge. I can see now why he’s correct.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 6:26 pm
Contradictions, contradictions:

“The accusation made earlier today that a member of the Prime Minister’s staff spoke to the Aboriginal tent embassy yesterday is false,” the PM’s spokesman said.

A source at the event said they had witnessed Mr Hodges and another staffer from the PMO speaking to several members of the crowd outside, around 20 minutes before the protesters charged the windows, sparking a dramatic evacuation of both Ms Gillard and Mr Abbott from the building.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/gillard-adviser-tony-hodges-forced-to-quit-over-tip-off-which-led-to-protest-violence/story-e6frfkvr-1226255907487#ixzz1kjfjb800

Fisky

28 Jan 12 at 6:27 pm
Jeez. I hope they keep talking. The more the better.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 6:30 pm
Abbott must take brutal revenge when he finally gets in. Fairfax must be killed and left outside for the vultures. The ABC should be shut down with its equipment and commercial rights quickly liquidated or dispersed so that nobody can put it back together. Anyone known to be a Labor sympathiser in the APS must be sacked immediately.

Fairfax are a private company. They can say what they like. It’s only the ABC, due to being funded by all taxpayers, that needs fixing. And I take it you wish to sack the entire APS?

The Hunted Mind

28 Jan 12 at 6:35 pm
I stupidly thought Labor had moved on from the race-baiting tactics of the Keating days. It seems they’re in it deeper than ever.

The moment that re-write of the constitution was put on the table it was clear Labor would revisit the divisiveness of the Mabo days.

What I remember clearly was it motivated so many to oppose Labor, with the hate of Keating in the general community continuing to this day.

Dullard believed the luvvie re-write of history and for some reason had to go there…

Token

28 Jan 12 at 6:44 pm
Gillard is lying.

That’s a given.

C.L.

28 Jan 12 at 6:44 pm
JC has said that the government can encourage people to divest from Fairfax and cause cash flow problems. They could also pull any advertisements that they might place in the paper.

Fisky

28 Jan 12 at 6:48 pm
Pseudologia fantastica, mythomania, or pathological lying are three of several terms applied by psychiatrists to the behavior of habitual or compulsive lying.[1][2] It was first described in the medical literature in 1891 by Anton Delbrueck.[2] Although it is a controversial topic,[2] pathological lying has been defined as “falsification entirely disproportionate to any discernible end in view, may be extensive and very complicated, and may manifest over a period of years or even a lifetime.”[1]

Excessive lying is a common symptom of several mental illnesses. For instance people who suffer from antisocial personality disorder use lying to benefit from others. Some individuals with borderline personality disorder lie for attention by claiming they’ve been treated poorly.[7] Pathological lying, on the other hand, can be described as an addiction to lying. It is when an individual consistently lies for no personal gain. The lies are commonly transparent and often seem rather pointless.[8]

I just can’t figure which type specifically applies to Gillard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 6:49 pm
Sorry about the caps…

Brendan Walsh of Hawthorn Posted at 8:24 AM Today

AT LAST LAURIE YOUR DOCTOR HAS GOT YOU ON THE RIGHT TABLETS,YOUR BEGINING TO WRITE LIKE A REAL JURNO JUST A LITTLE MORE TO THE RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD BE OK.ASK YOUR DOCTOR TO INCREASE YOUR DOSE A LITTLE. JUST A LITTLE!!!

Token

28 Jan 12 at 6:50 pm
I hope they keep talking.
I’m waiting for a “helpful” Norman Park doorstop by the Once and Future P.M.

lotocoti

28 Jan 12 at 6:57 pm
Hahahahahahahahahaha

Email from a wicked, wicked friend entitled “Bob Brown’s Dream Job“.

SFW, but I won’t put her commentary here, it isn’t!

Mk50 of Brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 7:02 pm
Story from Dec 11 which I hadn’t seen:

Inside were a group of nearly 10 journalists having a beer, who were soon prodding Rudd about Julia Gillard’s poorly received speech to ALP delegates.

Pointedly, she had paid tribute to Labor’s great prime ministers. She avoided mentioning Rudd by name. The move was regarded as stupid and graceless according to some senior ministers and attracted sympathy for Rudd.

Encouraged to air his views at the Cyren bar, the Foreign Minister needed little encouragement, openly accusing the Prime Minister of “airbrushing” him from history and making jokes about her “Toys R Us” speech.

Laughing that he was just back from visiting the heavily armed border to the dictatorship of North Korea, Rudd joked that over there leaders were literally airbrushed out of photographs.

Then, as conversation turned to the future and Gillard’s pledge in her speech that “Labor says yes to the future”, Rudd said something else.

“F–k the future”, he laughed, literally flipping the bird in front of the assembled journalists to punctuate his remark. As he thrust his finger in the air, the crowd could barely believe their eyes.

Rudd then posed for photographs with bar staff and disappeared into the night.

Hey, at least he shows us the Real Kevin.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 7:02 pm
Oh, scroll down to WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 26, 2009

Mk50 of Brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 7:03 pm
Can we have a link to that Gab?

Fisky

28 Jan 12 at 7:11 pm
Sure thing, Fisky.

Gab

28 Jan 12 at 7:16 pm
JC has said that the government can encourage people to divest from Fairfax and cause cash flow problems.

Yes, I’m sure the shareholders would be falling over themselves to dump their fairfax stock at a massive loss.

Quite frankly I hope Gina Rinehart takes the lying morons over (at a pittance for her) and sacks all the lefties.

That in itself might cause a rally in the stock price.

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 7:25 pm
what amazes me is the length of time Gillard took to find out what her office was doing
http://media.smh.com.au/news/national-news/pm-answers-what-happened-on-australia-day-2922370.html
this is where she makes her press statement
(and I note the statements Gillard makes are all hearsay) plus self serving
I don’t know what time today her press conference took place but a competent chief of staff should be able to find out in an hour what her staff were or were not doing
this smacks of a cover up

val majkus

28 Jan 12 at 7:28 pm
fairfax share price chart over the last five years.

Laughable.

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 7:33 pm
Wow, Rabz. If Catallaxians check down the backs of our collective couches we should be able to raise enough to buy it ourselves.

Mk50 of Brisbane

28 Jan 12 at 7:38 pm
Who would benefit from Gillard and Abbott being lynched?

I say the entire thing was setup by Krudd.

Boy on a bike

28 Jan 12 at 7:56 pm
When Gillard says that her staffer’s behaviour was “not acceptable” and “unauthorised” I could have sworn she was talking about Thommo.

Tiny Dancer

28 Jan 12 at 8:15 pm
That was my theory yesterday BOAB. A part of me wishes it was true – it would be taking revenge to the level of a fine art. Take a back seat Edmond Dantès.

Andreas

28 Jan 12 at 8:21 pm
Well, the screamers are finished playing their tennis now…

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 9:08 pm
I wonder how women tennis players in past eras managed without a scream every shot.

sdfc

28 Jan 12 at 9:14 pm
It normally doesn’t bother me too much, but having them both do it was somewhat irritating.

Fleeced

28 Jan 12 at 9:16 pm
Sharapova’s a looker though. I could never understand the obsession with Kornikova (spelling I know). Great body face like Boris Yeltsin.

sdfc

28 Jan 12 at 9:19 pm
That was probably a bit harsh.

sdfc

28 Jan 12 at 9:20 pm
One theory is that the tennis screamers are being paid to get one of the major sponsors (Kia) name out there… kIAAAAAA!! kIAAAAAA!! kIAAAAAA!! Another is that they both have severe untreated hernia pain. I’m sure there are others.

Siltstone

28 Jan 12 at 9:24 pm
One would struggle on with kourakova

Pickles

28 Jan 12 at 9:26 pm
Somebody thought they could get a mob chanting “Down with racist Abbott” or similar, allowing them to run headlines and so on with “Abbott “Racist” Say Aboriginals” and “Abbott Continues to Deny Racism” for a month.

It didn’t go according to plan. This is the shit that happens when you think you can continually play people for advantage. People may not always be that smart, but they are unpredictable as hell, which is why every control-centred government must lead ultimately to the Gulags.

wreckage

28 Jan 12 at 9:26 pm
Her Shoelessness is probably wishing she was the victim of some cunning eight-moves-ahead, 3 dimensional chess plotting by kevni.

On paper it reads like a good plan:
A fishing expedition question.
A conveniently situated reception.
With guaranteed coverage. (If it were a Tony only job there might have been one pool camera, whereas everyone is expected to show at P.M. gigs.)
Light the blue touch paper and counter those bad Abbott optics with a spot of prime ministerial leadership.
Such a pity it didn’t work like an episode of West Wing.

lotocoti

28 Jan 12 at 9:27 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, please enjoy this li’l ditty from that noted Republican Rock ‘n’ Roller, Jesse “il Diablo” Hughes…

Special Bonus Track…

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 9:35 pm
Great body face like Boris Yeltsin.

Yep – Peas in a pod…

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 9:49 pm
I’m sure there are others.

Maybe chronic constipation?

Carpe Jugulum

28 Jan 12 at 10:37 pm
Federer is quite sexy apart from his nose that spoils his looks.Terrific physique.

candy

28 Jan 12 at 10:41 pm
Hi Candy – you’re not out partying?

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 10:45 pm
No Rabz just some mates over and downed some Exquisite $7 plonk.

candy

28 Jan 12 at 10:48 pm
I could never understand the obsession with Kornikova (spelling I know). Great body

Youe question answers itself, and it’s not like she has a head like a smashed crab.

wreckage

28 Jan 12 at 10:50 pm
Why would the spin doctor ring up the tent people to respond to the innocuous comments made by Abbott? Simple answer is because it is bullshit. The only reason to respond is if Abbott said something inflammatory, or the spin doctor said Abbott did something inflammatory.

Hasn’t the Slapper’s new spin doctor, the pom, got form for this sort of thing when he worked for Blair?

Abbott should play on two things, either she is a liar – and she has plenty of form there, or she is so incompetent she can’t even run her own office. Let the slapper take her pick.

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 10:56 pm
Exquisite $7 plonk.

Sacre Bleu – I always spend at least $11!

Some interesting plonk was downed last night at the inaugural Canberra Cat Collective Barby.

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 10:58 pm
Hey John C,

How was the mobile oven this afternoon?

Got in two swims today, fantastic weather for a change.

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 11:02 pm
$11 Hey Big Spend-er!

candy

28 Jan 12 at 11:03 pm
Just posted thie following over at Bunyip’s place in response to a post about Kim Sattler’s role…anyone got any ideas about this?

I am also confused about the fact that Hodges tried to contact an ACT minister and was referred to the head of Unions ACT? Presumably, Hodges wanted the ACT government to get involved, but then how this Sattler woman gets involved is where I get lost…

Skuter

28 Jan 12 at 11:04 pm
Just posted this on the other thread and then noticed nobody was there Trying to make an impact again..

There is no way a staffer does something like this off his own bat.

Yes I’m coming round to the view that the lying slapper knew exactly what was going on. Her actions on camera in the restaurant were just too cute.

It’s all gone cactus, but maybe the truth will out, eventually. Just like it will for Bligh and the flood debacle.

Lazlo

28 Jan 12 at 11:05 pm
Some interesting plonk was downed last night at the inaugural Canberra Cat Collective Barby.

Indeed Rabz, the d’Arenberg Pinot Noir was exquisite…

Skuter

28 Jan 12 at 11:07 pm
Yes we enjoyed a nice D’Arenberg Adelaide Hills Pinot Noir and Singleton 12year old single malt. Beer menu included Hahn, Bluetongue and Boags. A good night was had by all.

Next event will be Poker, Whisky and Cuban cigars.

John Comnenus

28 Jan 12 at 11:07 pm
Clowns.

Poms all out for 72 to lose second test in a row against pakistan.

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 11:09 pm
Cat Collective Barby.

Was that Barby Shaw?

Lazlo

28 Jan 12 at 11:14 pm
Was that Barby Shaw?

No, Barby Cue…

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 11:16 pm
So you say you’ve lost your baby…

Rabz

28 Jan 12 at 11:23 pm
Hunted:

Fairfax are a private company. They can say what they like. It’s only the ABC, due to being funded by all taxpayers, that needs fixing. And I take it you wish to sack the entire APS?

In the normal course of events that’s true. However the Alliance is currently running a ‘quiry on the “hate media” and in my book that means all bets are off.

The fact the Left has raised the threat of cutting Newscorp into small parts means the Right must pay back in kind with forced a gutting of Fairfax and the ABC.

Even if they choose to do nothing means the right to act on this threat as the threat could be carried into the future.

Rabz seemed to be wondering how it could be done.

Fairfax had until about six months ago around $2 billion in liabilities. Forced divestiture by Fairfax of its assets would cause them to go bust very quickly as they would be selling in a firesale environment. It would be a piece of cake to engineer.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 12:03 am
Abbott should play on two things, either she is a liar – and she has plenty of form there, or she is so incompetent she can’t even run her own office. Let the slapper take her pick.

Can’t we believe both?

squawkbox

29 Jan 12 at 12:06 am
Big what-if I know, but

The protection detail and AFP are armed, and I am pretty sure authorised to use lethal force if required.

This “Let’s Make Tony Look Like a Poo” stunt could have gone wrong so bad in so many ways it is frightening.

The Love Media will seek to drop this down the memory hole asap, but we really need the Coalition Senators to demand appearances at Senate hearings. This is beyond a Chasers’ stunt.

Myrddin Seren

29 Jan 12 at 12:13 am
MS

I can’t prove it of course, but I think the whole fucking thing was a stunt and the lying slapper knew exactly what was going on.

Protecting “Mr. abbott” was also a stunt.

Again, look at the vid and watch her carefully looking to see if the camera is focused on what she’s saying on two occasions.

It was a fucking set up and the slapper was in on it from the beginning. No doubt in my mind.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 12:17 am
Rabz seemed to be wondering how it could be done.

No I wasn’t, JC, I was focusing on resurrecting the carcass, so to speak.

Your suggested course of action will screw over a lot of investors, who’ll then start bleating for compensation.

There is no way I will tolerate a cent of my extorted taxes being wasted on compensating idiots who invested in fairfax.

Let Gina swallow them up and we get a more balanced lamestream meeja, the stock price bounces back and a lot of newly unemployed lefties will scrambling for a limited number of sinecures at the ALPBC.

Then, by all means, take an axe to the ALPBC and let the market sort out envirofax.

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 12:23 am
JC

My admittedly remote point is:

the protection detail and the regular AFP were not in on The Stunt;

they are armed; and

in the worse case of a perceived threat within The Stunt the Vuvazula’s office organised, by a gross misfortune deadly force could have arisen.

For a government that spends all day long passing laws to remove any and all risks from the province of ‘Working Families, Carers and Pensionsers’, this is the sort of OH&S eff-up that sees employers in NSW staring at serious gaol/jail time.

Myrddin Seren

29 Jan 12 at 12:25 am
What compensation? The libs could demand Fairfax to relinquish control as a result of too much concentration in various markets.

They could say they aren’t able to own any radio licenses, which is the only thing that makes them money other than the Fin Review.

They don’t have to offer any comp.

The other way to do it is to threaten a “quiry of their own with leaks raising these issues. The banks themselves would cause the firesal, as the debt is mostly bank related and the banks would panic.

There are plenty of ways the skin a cat. However, since the Alliance’s ‘quiry and veiled threats the Right must extract payback and escalate. The left must be made to feel pain for what they’ve done.

As for the ABC. Set up a committee outside the ABC with the powers to act against bias with the ability to fire… then start the firing process.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 12:32 am
With this government in charge, it’s like every night is Cowboy Monkey Goat-Rodeo Night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGqfQuy14pA

spot

29 Jan 12 at 12:38 am
Yikes – sorry, I didn’t mean for that to embed like that :-/

spot

29 Jan 12 at 12:42 am
What compensation?

The compensation the mightily pissed off middle class suckers will take to a sympathetic mordy while they still can, bleating that Yabbot has implemented policies to deliberately bankrupt envirofax.

And FFS, there is a perfectly logical free market solution to destroying envirofax in its current incarnation.

I’ve detailed it above. Just allow the market work its magic. The stock price will be 40 cents within the year, the way things are going.

The inevitable ascension of the yabbott (which I think will happen sooner rather than later), will merely hasten the ‘great plummeting’.

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 12:43 am
Yikes – sorry, I didn’t mean for that to embed like that :-/

Of course not…

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 12:44 am
You mean a labor government could demand News should divest, but the libs can’t demand Fairfax can’t without giving the shareholders compensation?

How does that work?

Bad luck for the shareholders in the same way it was bad luck for News.

The right has softcocked for decades.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 12:48 am
JC,

Destroying the ALPBC is one thing – it bleeping deserves the wholesale destruction you and I would happily inflict on it.

However, I want envirofax to become a textbook study of what happens to publicly listed meeja companies when the lunatics within go free range.

There is still a possibility of redemption.

But, FFS, if it’s gotta die, then just let it die.

There is a cleanout due, but mainly in grubment funded institutions sucked dry in the long march.

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 12:53 am
Destroying the ALPBC is one thing – it bleeping deserves the wholesale destruction you and I would happily inflict on it.

Lol … Close it down quickly. In a day.

However, I want envirofax to become a textbook study of what happens to publicly listed meeja companies when the lunatics within go free range.

Fuck’em. The left wouldn’t understand the punishment. They need to be visibly punished.

There is still a possibility of redemption.

For Fairfax? No there isn’t. It can’t be redeemed.

But, FFS, if it’s gotta die, then just let it die.

Kill it. Don’t let die naturally. It has to be killed and lessons learnt.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 12:59 am
JULIA Gillard says she is absolutely furious at Tony Abbott’s insinuation that she was behind the violent protests that broke out at the Lobby restaurant in Canberra.

“For it to be insinuated that I played some role to detract attention from the Australians who had performed miracles during natural disasters makes me furious. It’s absolutely typical of his negativity and tendency to go too far,” Ms Gillard said in a statement.

So let me get this straight.

Facing the nation to explain away her office’s attempt to incite a race riot using words Abbott never used (and never even came close to using), Gillard tried to switch it back on Abbott by using words he didn’t use (and never even came close to using).

I’m literally astonished at the brazen mendacity and almost child-like lack of self-awareness of this increasingly strange woman.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 1:08 am
JC,

Here’s a possible scenario (big ups to the Bunyip, BTW):

The Yabbott is (shortly – i.e. within 6 months) elected PM in the nation’s most historic federal election landslide.

The envirofax stock price plummets to 40 cents overnight.

Next day, a mystery buyer moves in.

Eventually news gets out that it’s Gina. She owns a controlling interest. The stock price rallies.

adele horror, barkin’ betty, davo marred, etc, are given their marchin’ orders.

No law suits, no compensation, no bleating. No comfy sinecures at the ALPBC.

Envirofax is then resurrected as a more ‘balanced’ operation.

What’s not to like?

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 1:09 am
Grab the popcorn.

Here we go:

Kim Sattler says Gillard is lying.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 1:09 am
In Ye Olden Dayes, one had to use HTML coding to embed videos… now they apparently just plunk themselves in on a naked link. Apols again for the bandwidth wastage.

spot

29 Jan 12 at 1:13 am
Kim Sattler says Gillard is lying.

Tony Abbott needs to just sit back now and watch these feral idiots destroy each other.

spot

29 Jan 12 at 1:15 am
Kim Sattler says Gillard is lying.

We know, Kim, we know.

Oh this is just priceless.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 1:21 am
Spot, don’t you just copy and paste the top youtube code to some linky text?

It’s what I do when linking to youtube – in fact I don’t even know how to get the big fat screens up.

For which you should all be grateful…

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 1:21 am
There’s a lot to dislike.

Fairfax made $250 million last year and is servicing it’s debt, so it could last for years. It’s not a given that right wing investor would appear and buy it because of potential covenants in the debt agreements forcing renegotiation which would dissuade a buyer.

You buy failing bits of companies from an administrator, not on the open market as a going concern.

At 40 cents they could do an issue, dilute the existing shareholders and those fuckers would still be there.

Also Gina wouldn’t be buying it 40 cents. if she mounted a takeover the stock would go much higher as a result of a takeover premium.

There also isn’t any punishment imbedded in your solution. And there must be punishment.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 1:22 am
So pretty little Sattler is saying that other people in the lying slapper’s office knew about the conspiracy.

I’m shocked.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 1:23 am
There also isn’t any punishment imbedded in your solution. And there must be punishment.

JC, you don’t happen to be catholic by any chance, do you?

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 1:26 am
“Yikes – sorry, I didn’t mean for that to embed like that :-/”

Will you people stop apologising for this? I like it… it means I can view the link without leaving the page (or spawning a new tab as I usually do). It seems I’m in the minority?

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 1:27 am
No I’m not Catholic, Rabz. Haven’t been in a church since I was a young kid.

Fuck off with the religious stuff Rabz. You seem to back up to that late at night when you’re pushed the bottle far too much.

You seem unable to hold the booze without becoming a nasty little drunk.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 1:29 am
Fairfax made $250 million last year and is servicing it’s debt, so it could last for years.

OK, – if, you’re correct, some steps need to be taken to bring this brontosaurus down.

But in no way should there be any cost to the taxpayer in doing so.

That is a ‘not negotiable’ must of the ‘bringing down’.

Removal of all the leftist scum from the other ‘institutions’ they’re infesting will cost taxpayers a bomb.

And the biggest and most expensive barnacle to remove will be the legal ‘system’, mark my words…

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 1:33 am
Fleeced, multiple YouTubes make the page extremely slow to load – up to a minute on the old OT.

Extremely irritating.

——————————————

Gillard’s office has briefed reporters on how they’ll get Abbott. Note the violent, exterminationist rhetoric.

SMH: How I’ll slay Abbott.

The economy was the ”killing floor” for all arguments the government would make this year, a senior source told The Sun-Herald.

I say this in all seriousness: Abbott has caused Gillard and her staffers to become actually mentally deranged.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 1:34 am
What was it that Omaba said about taking a gun to fight?

A “fanatical supporter” of President Barack Obama is the prime suspect in an investigation into an Internet death threat against Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio…

His postings read, in part: “I plan to kill Arpaio first. He will be filled with a thousand bullet holes before the year is out. I promise you this. He won’t [expletive] with Obama. He will be buried 10 feet under and his whole family will be murdered along with him.”

Well, at least we know somebody listens to Obama.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 1:35 am
Fleeced, multiple YouTubes make the page extremely slow to load – up to a minute on the old OT.

Good point… I guess that can get a bit much on these long open threads.

I wish blogs had collapsible threaded comments, like usenet of old.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 1:37 am
And the biggest and most expensive barnacle to remove will be the legal ‘system’, mark my words…

Oh bleep – I meant the lefty barnacles that infest the legal system…

Yabbott: err mordy, it’s over, you no longer have a job.

Mordy: But, but, but Yabbott, according to teh constitution, section 12 C, clause iii of the sacred cows act says that if a catholic hatemonger wants to remove a tribal bench elder, he has to ensure that, blah, blah, blah…

All in billable hours, at the taxpayers’ pleasure.

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 1:39 am
I say this in all seriousness: Abbott has caused Gillard and her staffers to become actually mentally deranged.

What they’re going through is normal.

They’ve been through the denial stage. They’re now going through the anger stage realizing they are basically political dead meat.

A few months time they will go through the resignation stage and then finally grief at losing.

It’s all normal.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 1:43 am
JC, the remark was meant in jest.

Why are people so touchy about religion, FFS?

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 1:46 am
Because it doesn’t appear to be in jest. Surely after all the other entanglements you’ve got into late at night when you’re under the weather I should immediately think.. oh Rabz is just kidding, because he’s been a kidder about this is stuff since he’s been commenting here.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 1:52 am
Kim Sattler says Gillard is lying.

Is Lefty Kim also claiming that Babs Shaw and Mikey Anderson are lying about their claim that Lefty Kim told both them?

Peter Patton

29 Jan 12 at 1:55 am
OK, off to the land of nod.

JC – I enjoy the discussions, but religion does annoy me no end.

It’s a scourge. Along with excessive drinking, no doubt.

nunny roxoff should get onto it.

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 2:05 am
The Australian Open Champ, about to talk some serious rocket science.

Rabz

29 Jan 12 at 2:11 am
Prime Minister Julia Gillard denies knowing unions Kim Sattler.

But there they are sitting together.

Where?

Ms Gillard yesterday said she did not know Ms Sattler, who was previously not widely known outside her ACT stamping ground.

An image added to Ms Sattler’s Facebook page in 2007 shows her with Ms Gillard apparently at a function for Emily’s List – a Left-leaning group promoting progressive women’s political careers.

Ahoy, Secret Service:

Another image shows her with former Victorian premier Joan Kirner, while one picture, believed to have been taken overseas, appears to show Ms Sattler with a gun.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 2:11 am
Oh what a web we weave, when we first set out to decieve….or whatever it was that Shakespeare said.

Now why would Sattler feel the need to go into hiding? Who is threatening her?

The Sattler version of events seem far more plausible than the Gillard version of events. In which case I think we might be seeing the beginning of the end for Gillard. Was Sattler like pulling the lose thread that was holding the story together?

I look forward to seeing how the media will spin this in favour of Gillard and turn it on Abbott.

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 2:25 am
The Australian Open Champ, about to talk some serious rocket science.

Sharapova is much better (plus a skirt always beats shorts on a girl)… I wanted her to win, probably for that reason. Yes, I know, I’m a shallow man.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 2:25 am
Sattler’s gone into hiding? The chick [I use that term loosely] who taunted Abbott thusly?

“Tony Abbott is like your typical bar-room brawler who starts a fight and then disappears like a coward when it is in full swing.”

The ironing, it burns.

spot

29 Jan 12 at 2:32 am
ABC news not reporting Sattler’s claim that Hodges is lying … Yet. Must still be working out how to spin events.

And who here will be surprised that the Police will not start any investigation into an alleged crime involving the ALP or Unions until, and only if, there is a massive outcry?

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 2:47 am
ABC news not reporting Sattler’s claim that Hodges is lying

?? I thought Big Kim said Gillard was lying, now she Hodges too? I can’t keep up with all the lies. This is doing my head in.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 2:53 am
John, would that be the same Police who cheerily declared that there were no arrests – as though this was a good thing?

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 2:54 am
Gab,

Either way, your ABC ain’t reporting it!

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 2:54 am
“Tony Abbott is like your typical bar-room brawler who starts a fight and then disappears like a coward when it is in full swing.”

To quote Bart Simpson, The ironing is delicious.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 2:56 am
John I’m surprised your ABC is reporting any of this sordid mess at all!

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 2:57 am
Ha ha the lying slapper caught lying twice in a couple of hours. Lying about what Hodges said and lying about not knowing the union chick. And that is on top of lying about Hodges not meeting any of the protestors. She lies so instinctively and by default that you have to wonder if there is an illness involved.

Fisky

29 Jan 12 at 3:01 am
She lies so instinctively and by default that you have to wonder if there is an illness involved.

As I posted at 6.49pm, in part:

Excessive lying is a common symptom of several mental illnesses. For instance people who suffer from antisocial personality disorder use lying to benefit from others. Some individuals with borderline personality disorder lie for attention by claiming they’ve been treated poorly.[7] Pathological lying, on the other hand, can be described as an addiction to lying. It is when an individual consistently lies for no personal gain. The lies are commonly transparent and often seem rather pointless.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica

Not being flippant about this at all. I really do believe she has a problem.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 3:05 am
I always thought that Gillard suffered from two basic problems, her judgment was terrible and her timing even worse. I now strongly believe she set the whole thing up and has been caught out. I think Abbott smells blood in the water.

By the way has Hodges said anything? Surely all the love media heavy hitters have his number. Is he going to be quizzed about what he actually said and what others knew about his actions?

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 3:10 am
It wasn’t Shakespeare, John, it was Scott.

Abu Chowdah

29 Jan 12 at 3:13 am
John, good question.

I suspect the Canberra Stenography Gallery won’t be ringing or interrogating their mate, Hodgo.

Forget about it.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 3:15 am
Thanks Abu. The Sattler intervention means that there is an increased likelihood that the game will now get interesting. But my money will be on the ALP machine telling Hodges that he will be looked after if he keeps quiet and the ACTU machine will pull Sattler into line, although that will be more difficult. She might do a Jackson and check in.

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 3:22 am
What was this little performance about? She looks as thought she’s conducting an orchestra – an orchestra a lies. *chortle*

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 3:26 am
She was holding up an invisible sign that reads ‘I am not a liar, honest!’

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 3:30 am
Don’t suppose this was all set about to take the heat off Albo? And then things just went awry. Nah, that’s just too out there even for Labor.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 3:32 am
Bolt says he doesn’t believe Julia. If that meme catches it’s goodnight Julia. Her complaint about Abbott’s insinuation seemed a bit contrived for me, she protests too much.

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 3:35 am
she protests too much.
Bingo! That’s what was bothering me about that photo above. Confected outrage.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 3:38 am
Don’t suppose this was all set about to take the heat off Albo?

– from Gab.

I don’t think so. I think it was orchestrated by ALP goons to embarrass Abbott and put him on a spot with a baying howling mob of ferals and it all turned to shit when the mob didn’t follow the game plan. ALP cockroaches now scattering to the darkest corners in the ACT and beyond, ALP media spinners burning the midnight oil trying to find some reasonable bulldust they can spin to the party faithful.

It backfired spectacularly. How much longer can this pack of incompetent clowns hang on?

Pedro the Ignorant

29 Jan 12 at 3:41 am
ABC continues to report on NewsRadio that the story is Abbott’s location being passed on. No, the real story is the (seemingly) deliberate twisting of Abbott’s words, combined with his location being passed on.
Shameless. Utterly shameless. I can’t see how Gillard can survive this. If she had a track record of honesty and was mildly trustworthy, she might have been able to ride this out with an appropriate level of contrition and humility at being caught out. However, she has none of that.
I suppose we now know what ‘we are us’ means: we are a bunch of shameless arseholes!

Skuter

29 Jan 12 at 7:26 am
If one thing has come out of all this, it is the exposure of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy as a tool of the ALP – to be wheeled out to embarass the Coalition when needed, and to be ignored otherwise. Why these supposed proud defenders of their race allow themselves to be used as such, I will never know. Are they ignorant dupes or cunning traitors to their people?

Matt

29 Jan 12 at 8:09 am
In other news, it has been confirmed by Fairfax that people smugglers are using the illegal trade to import children from Vietnam to work as child labourers

Yes, the 2 parties funded and owned by the Trade Union movement have developed a policy to enable to imported & exploited.

Thanks, back to the story where the staff of the PM, through their negligence, starred a race riot…

Token

29 Jan 12 at 8:17 am
The other question to be asked is “How often do the Prime Minister’s office and other ALP ministers’ offices orchestrate these kinds of stunts?”. It is hard to believe that this was simply an unauthorised once-off that went wrong. It reeks of a standard operating procedure.

If I was a journalist, I would now give absolutely no credibility to any supposed “spontaneous” protest against Abbott – it is much, much more likely to be a set-up by ALP stooges.

Matt

29 Jan 12 at 8:19 am
Another example of hate speech from Tony Abbott.

In another example of language Australians find unacceptable when talking about our female PM, Tony Abbott made another grubby remark to a reporter…

How I will slay Abbott

…The economy is the “killing floor” for all arguments the government would make, a senior source told the Sun-Herald

Interesting to note from the article Gillard is unapologetic and the Federal Police Will take no action over the race riot started by staffers from the PM’s office and Trade Union officials

Token

29 Jan 12 at 8:31 am
I suspect the Canberra Stenography Gallery won’t be ringing or interrogating their mate, Hodgo.

Forget about it.

Hell no, according to the replay of events at SMH, it seems the group think collective that reports on Canberra Politics helped create this disaster…

Expect the paid up union members to circle their wagons and not provide any details (this is the press pack I’m talking about):

Four of her staff, including 28-year-old press secretary Tony Hodges, arrived well before her to make sure everything was running smoothly, according to an account of the day given by Gillard yesterday.

Hodges, an affable bloke, well liked by the Canberra press gallery, shot the breeze with journalists waiting for Gillard to arrive.

They discussed the comments of the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, earlier that day. Abbott had been asked about the future of the Aboriginal tent embassy, which was marking its 40th anniversary at the Old Parliament House. He had said it was time to “move on” from that debate, comments which were interpreted by some as a call for the tent embassy to be shut down. Hodges took it upon himself to find some indigenous people to respond to the comments, Gillard said.

What some might call his initiative triggered a chain of events that led to angry protesters descending on the restaurant, the evacuation of the Prime Minister and Abbott, and finally Hodges resigning from his job.

Token

29 Jan 12 at 8:39 am
Would it be too much to ask for all coalition members to shut up for the day and sit back and enjoy this lot trying to unplait this turd?

Pickles

29 Jan 12 at 8:54 am
I am quite willing to believe Hodges acted on his own initiative. These back room boys, particulary media advisers, like to think of themselves as players. I have often said to advisers to Ministers I have worked for that their draft MR is not representing accurately what the issue is about, or that that isn’t really what the person they are bagging out really said, to be told that it doesn’t matter, it’s all part of the game.

In this case, when the truth was always going to come out, I can’t for the life of me understand why Gillard wasn’t fully honest: the clown had been exposed, there was nothing to gain from saying he did not misrepresent what Abbott had said, in fact there is the real risk, with high likelihood, that someone will come forward and say that in fact he did, making it clear that even if Gillard did not have prior knowledge, she is now lying in trying to minimize damage.

Entropy

29 Jan 12 at 8:54 am
If I was a journalist, I would now give absolutely no credibility to any supposed “spontaneous” protest against Abbott – it is much, much more likely to be a set-up by ALP stooges.

From Gillard’s statement it appears the press pack passed on the comments from Abbott to Tony Hodges. So it is clear the incorrect version of the comments came from someone (or a group of them) in the press group.

That mob never say sorry or admit their mistakes, rather they all will circle their wagons like they did when that lying clip artist Mark Riley tried to stitch up Abbott last year.

Token

29 Jan 12 at 8:58 am
You are all wrong as usual.
the Australia Day disturbances were all a plot by Julia to save her from having to put the stupid constitutional ammendments to the masses and go down in a screaming heap.

rodney

29 Jan 12 at 9:22 am
I suspect you credit the GillRudd claque with too much ability, Rodney

Entropy

29 Jan 12 at 9:30 am
Our aboriginals never seem violent before, lazy and seeking handouts some of them, and some always angry but never mass violence I can’t remember it.Some malicious person/s have preyed on them on their most emotive day Invasion Day which has great significance for them.
I’m of the opinion the protestors would not have proceeded as they did in the absence of incitement by ALP/union figures. It would not have happened.

candy

29 Jan 12 at 9:33 am
“rather they all will circle their wagons”

There’s almost certainly some sort of Australian version of #JournoList. See as another example the “OMG Julia Speaks Without Notes! WITHOUT NOTES!!!!!!“ narrative they went all-out to spread.

It seems like somehow they’re deciding on a central “narrative” they’re all going to push, on a certain spin they want to put on whatever the news-du-jour is, and they all come out with it within hours of each other.

spot

29 Jan 12 at 9:38 am
Well worth reading if you are not a leftard and actually want to understand why certain muslims act as they do.

The clearest description of waqf I have seen, and this is why lebanese Maronites call the problem of islam ‘the forever war’.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 10:00 am
Brendan O’Neill, 2011:

It isn’t surprising that Murdoch-bashing often sounds eerily similar to conspiracy theorising – because, like conspiracy theories, it too is underpinned by its adherents’ own profound sense of dislocation and angst.

The Guardian, today:

Four current and former senior Sun journalists and one serving police officer have been arrested as part of Scotland Yard’s investigation into police corruption.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/28/news-international-four-men-arrested

Turns out that Brendan O’Neill wasn’t defending ‘free speech’ at all, just the ability of moguls and crooked cops to control speech.

Libertarians: 0, Reality: 1

THR

29 Jan 12 at 10:07 am
And who here will be surprised that the Police will not start any investigation into an alleged crime involving the ALP or Unions until, and only if, there is a massive outcry?

From the news last night the police said they could start an investigation if someone made a complaint, or asked them to – the Coalition could ask for an investigation. They showed Pyne saying it should rightly be the PM who asks for the investigation.

And what a creature she is, instead of apologising to Abbott for the rogue actions of one of her staff that could so easily have lead to him being physically assualted, she claims she’s ‘furious’ at him for ‘implying’ she was behind the whole thing (which he didn’t actually do on any reasonable reading of his words). She doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt in this whole affair.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 10:08 am
The clearest description of waqf I have seen, and this is why lebanese Maronites call the problem of islam ‘the forever war’.

This is an excerpt from the mentally – and morally – challenged Clouseau’s link:

Their loyalty to the “holy land” obligates Muslims to “holy war” and the restoration of sovereignty in the Philippines, Thailand, parts of China, Kashmir, Chechnya, Israel, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Spain, Portugal and elsewhere.

These are wild and utterly false generalisations about hundreds of millions of people, in other words. They’re also utterly implausible, except in the eyes of rabid and degenerate Muslim-haters (see Clouseau, above). Anybody who attempted to made wild generalisations about the ‘Jewish mind’ or the ‘permanent’ ‘obligations’ of Black-Americans would be rightly dismissed as an imbecile and a bigot. Clouseau, take your medicine.

THR

29 Jan 12 at 10:11 am
…wild and utterly false generalisations…

Just like the dishonest slapper.

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 10:40 am
Entropy

In this case, when the truth was always going to come out, I can’t for the life of me understand why Gillard wasn’t fully honest: the clown had been exposed, there was nothing to gain from saying he did not misrepresent what Abbott had said, in fact there is the real risk, with high likelihood, that someone will come forward and say that in fact he did, making it clear that even if Gillard did not have prior knowledge, she is now lying in trying to minimize damage.

The problem with a lie is that the liar tends to embellish and elaborate, which just makes the story more complex and harder to remember, as well as adding information which really isn’t necessary if the truth is being told. That’s how liars are usually caught out. They forget the little things, the embellishments, the complexities, when if they weren’t lying they’d not need to remember embellishments.

kae

29 Jan 12 at 11:13 am
So apparently “Sattler is a Murri woman from Queensland.” And yet “Ms [Barbara] Shaw was unable to identify the woman other than that she was of non-indigenous descent.”

Ahahahaha. Mordecai will now be after Ms Shaw posthaste.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 11:15 am
If one thing has come out of all this, it is the exposure of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy as a tool of the ALP – to be wheeled out to embarass the Coalition when needed, and to be ignored otherwise. Why these supposed proud defenders of their race allow themselves to be used as such, I will never know. Are they ignorant dupes or cunning traitors to their people?

Let’s call them what they are, for accuracy’s sake.

The Yasser Masser Tribe.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 11:30 am
The problem with a lie is that the liar tends to embellish and elaborate, which just makes the story more complex and harder to remember, as well as adding information which really isn’t necessary if the truth is being told.

Brings to mind Kevni’s long overblown explanation for his upset tummy some time ago. A Dagwood Dog, Kevni? Really?

spot

29 Jan 12 at 11:32 am
Andreas
Bolt’s fucking right. I smelt a rat as soon as I saw the vid and she appeared to be posing for the camera.

There’s no way betaboy Hodges would have acted alone in this without a senior douchebag in the PM’s office orchestrating or helping to orchestrate the entire thing. The Lying Slapper knew exactly what was going on and why….

Fme. The Alliance is now attempting to incite race riots. It really can’t get any worse than this.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 11:33 am
Turns out that Brendan O’Neill wasn’t defending ‘free speech’ at all, just the ability of moguls and crooked cops to control speech.

Libertarians: 0, Reality: 1

This from THR, who defends speech controller and briber Julian Assange.

Unlike Assange, News Ltd’s interest in Hugh Grant’s love life didn’t get several hundred people tortured and killed.

Reality: 1.
Lefties: 0.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 11:35 am
CL,

O’Neill appeared on Q&A to say that anybody who questioned Murdoch’s power was akin to the Nazis of the 1930s. He insinuated that his defence of Murdoch was to provide support for media to question the state. It turns out all along that multiple of Murdoch’s newspapers having been collaborating with the armed wing of the state, in order to break the law. But I suspect you knew that already.

THR

29 Jan 12 at 11:38 am
so ALP has now managed to set back race relations about 10 years , undoing the good of Mr Rudd’s sorry speech which was very moving and beautiful and meant so much to us,that’s the shame of it all.

candy

29 Jan 12 at 11:40 am
That’s right, Andreas.

Facing the nation to explain why her office organised a race riot – using words Abbott didn’t use – this dishonest woman again used words Abbott didn’t use.

It really is like an illness.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 11:41 am
He lives on and runs a sheep and cattle property on his ancestral lands on both sides of the New South Wales and Queensland border in the lower Ballone river system.

Nice for him. I wonder if he has any Native Title claims on his property – from cousins, cousins’ cousins, cousins’ cousins’ cousins and somone who once visited a cousins’ cousins’ cousin – or even someone who is a descendant of the said (now deceased) visitor and whose actual country is far removed?

If not, why one rule for him and his whitey capitalist property and another for the rest of us?

Helen Armstrong

29 Jan 12 at 11:43 am
Her complaint about Abbott’s insinuation seemed a bit contrived for me, she protests too much.

From Labor’s playbook, lessons diversion and smear.

1. Confected Outrage:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/now_labor_meows

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/just_as_tuckey_predicted

Ivan Denisovich

29 Jan 12 at 11:46 am
lessons in

Ivan Denisovich

29 Jan 12 at 11:47 am
http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2012/01/love-machine.html
The good professor bunyip does the rounds of fairfax papers to see how the press gallery types circle the wagons and show the public just how unlucky our PM is…it’s not her fault…

Skuter

29 Jan 12 at 11:50 am
Candy

Rudd’s speech was a wank.

1. The whites that came here first didn’t want to be here. Transportation in those days was the equivalent of a death sentence to those people. It was essentially an undeveloped shit hole for the most part with food potentially scarce depending on the next drought. They were convicts.

2. My parents arrived here in the 50′s. WTF have I got to feel sorry about?

That stuff just added more fuel to the grievance industry.

If there’s any apologizing to be done, let it be the British monarch or the British Parliament as those poor first fuckers never wanted to be here in the first place and it was those to institutions which did the colonizing.

———-

Calling some of you lefties to help explain some shit to me. You know how you’re all into this original owners bullshit because the aboriginals were here first? You know what I’m talking about right?

How do you fuckers reconcile this schtick and antipathy towards the Jews in Israel seeing the old testament name for nearly all of Israel was Judea and we all know who the original owners of Judea were.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 11:54 am
JC, I was suspicious too when I saw that footage, but then that might just be her natural reaction whenever a camera appears – it’s like Gordon Brown who’d turn his hideous confected Cheshire Cat-like grin on and off in synch with the cameras.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this coincides with her getting that ex-Blair guy in from the UK. He’s described as a former Tony Blair ‘strategist’. What’s the point of getting in a fancy new communications director if he’s not choreographing ever minute detail?

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 11:54 am
Wow.

Post a link to an Israeli (hence Jewish) site and our pet jew-baiting anti-semitic communist is frothing at the mouth and baying at the moon eleven minutes later.

The timeline is interesting.
1000 post
1011 the foullest of anti-semitic vitriol vomits forth.

Now bear in mind he’s criticising the linked article here – written by Mr Yoram Ettinger. So it’s Mr Ettinger THR is aiming his spittle-flecked invective at. Why, oh why, I wonder? Well, we all know how THR feels about Jooooooooos.

And here’s the proof, in his own words.

mentally – and morally – challenged … wild and utterly false … utterly implausible, … rabid and degenerate Muslim-haters …an imbecile and a bigot.

At least the bone-deep anti-semitic bigotry of THR is revealed by his words and tone, here.

Thanks, THR, for providing me a concrete example of how much you hate Jews.

You’ve been ignoring my posts recently – a very nice state of affairs (who wants to be associated even negatively with something as foully disgusting as you?), but it turns out you’re as stalky as ever.

I did not intend that link as anything but an illustration of how Wahabists and Salafists interpret waqf and why that causes a problem not comprehended in the West, it’s a lovely bonus for you to so openly reveal the depth of your howling Jew-hatred though, THR. You are unutterably loathesome.

You can go back to mourning the fact you were born too late to be an Einsatztruppen now.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 11:56 am
Let’s call them what they are, for accuracy’s sake.

The Yasser Masser Tribe.

Comedy gold!

Post of the day.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 11:58 am
Politico is the Get Newt gold medal winner:

President John Tyler’s grandson says Newt Gingrich is a ‘jerk’

President John Tyler’s grandson Harrison Tyler, 84, says he’s not impressed with the state of politics today and particularly thinks Newt Gingrich is a “big jerk” for his three marriages.

Incredibly, President Tyler, who was born in 1790 and became the 10th president in 1841, has two grandchildren still alive today. His grandson, Harrison Ruffin Tyler, currently maintains the Tyler presidential home, Sherwood Forest Plantation Foundation in Charles City, Va.

Meanwhile, Reuters attempts to take out Marco Rubio with hilarious (and predictable) results.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 12:01 pm
#TheirABC: Still smearing Abbott.

Bolt:

The ABC must stop broadcasting this anti-Abbott falsehood:

Aboriginal Tent Embassy activists had rushed to a restaurant in Canberra after one of the protesters told them Mr Abbott was inside. They were enraged by remarks Mr Abbott had made earlier that day.

No, the protesters were not “enraged by remarks Mr Abbott had made”.

They were instead enraged by a false claim about what he’d said. Even tent embassy spokesman Michael Anderson now admits that:

Someone set us up; they set the Prime Minister up. They set Abbott up. I think they knew that reaction would occur…

A more correct description of what occurred is: “They were enraged by a falsehood about Mr Abbott earlier that day.” The question is: was that falsehood peddled by Julia Gillard’s office, and why?

spot

29 Jan 12 at 12:02 pm
You’ve been ignoring my posts recently – a very nice state of affairs (who wants to be associated even negatively with something as foully disgusting as you?), but it turns out you’re as stalky as ever.

I generally ignore your posts since you are simnply too stupid and dishonest to be worth the time. As for stalking – have you forgotten that you trawled through blogposts that were several years old in a farcical attempt to ‘out’ me?

At least the bone-deep anti-semitic bigotry of THR is revealed by his words and tone, here.

No anti-semitism here, you wife beater, Clouseau. Let me know when you’ve found evidence of some. Given your ringing endorsement of the article you cited, and given your long and disturbing history of hatred toward Muslims and blacks, I think it reasonable to conclude that you agree with that bigoted article in its entirety.

Now, do you have an argument, or will you attempt to hide your lack of one behind Nazi smears, you pathetic, limp-wristed stamp collecter?

THR

29 Jan 12 at 12:12 pm
Henderson to rip the story to shreds in media watch dog next week I hope.

sean

29 Jan 12 at 12:12 pm
The question is: was that falsehood peddled by Julia Gillard’s office, and why?

Liar, liar, generously elasticised pants on fire.

Yes, the race-baiting was peddled by Gillard’s office – possibly by Mrs Hippie Burning herself.

Why?

WHY?

Because an obvious media strategy was in place to get Abbott in any way possible in the new year. That’s why Albanese was dispatched to give that Australia Day speech – so the Opposition Leader could be trashed by proxy. Who knew Albanese would himself outsource the job to Michael Douglas? Then again, nobody expected Hodgo to outsource his drive-by trashing to Kim il Satts.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 12:18 pm
It’s my understanding that Australia was colonised by humans in several waves. Of course there would have been significant gene mixing post-invasion (as is nearly always the case), with the more powerful invading force breeding disproportionately with the females of the existing tribes, and possibly killing off some, most, or all of the existing males.

The only major difference I can see between the European conquest of Australia and earlier conquests was the massive technological development gap between the conquerers and the conquered in the latter.

Oh come on

29 Jan 12 at 12:21 pm
They were instead enraged by a false claim about what he’d said.

And as Mr Bolt is a paragon of fact-checking and balanced view and never shows any bias toward the political orientation of Mr Abbott I think we can take this as gospel.

Abbott said: “I think it probably is time to move on from that.”

Now in normal human language that can just mean we should just move on from that, meaning ‘the past’. In politico-speak however it could be a signal of future intent. This, of course, assumes that Mr Abbott’s wits were wired to his mouth when he said it, because that’s not always the case. He has dropped a few howlers on occasion. Shit happens.

Perhaps the tent city was far from his thoughts and he simply mis-spoke. It’s pretty easy to turn his words into a confrontational statement if you’re looking for one.

Nice for him. I wonder if he has any Native Title claims on his property – from cousins, cousins’ cousins, cousins’ cousins’ cousins and somone who once visited a cousins’ cousins’ cousin

Proving continued occupation on land is essential in recognizing Native Title. This wresting of land essentially took the form of the government leasing it to third parties without the owners’ permission. Most interesting that concerns with property rights are inversely proportional to the level of melanin in the skin of s/he that has them.

Adrien

29 Jan 12 at 12:21 pm
Because an obvious media strategy was in place to get Abbott in any way possible in the new year.

I agree. Gillard stirred it up. And it backfired.

She still hasn’t addressed them. It’s gutless and it misses an opportunity. And opportunity for Abbott too. I doubt either of them are up to it.

Adrien

29 Jan 12 at 12:23 pm
anyway the shoe is no loss, saw the picture, very plain servicable but nothing pretty about them, i prefer a bigger heel and something strappy and feminine. Ms Gillard’s shoes very dull who would buy it on ebay.

candy

29 Jan 12 at 12:24 pm
You haven’t been following this very closely, have you, Adrien?

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 12:24 pm
If you had a state premier who turned around the state budget from chronic deficit to surplus in one year, what you think the voters would do?

Recall him of course.

I’m sure you know why the unions, public sector employees who contribute NOTHING to their pensions & ambulance chasing lawyers are keen on this, don’t you…

In Wisconsin, the evidence is mounting that Mr. Walker hasn’t brought economic Armageddon but financial stability. Last year’s $3 billion deficit is now a $300 million surplus—and it was accomplished without the new taxes that unions favored. “If a business is failing, you don’t raise the prices on your customers,” Mr. Walker scoffs.

In addition to union reform, Mr. Walker and his allies in the legislature passed a statewide school voucher program, eased business regulation, and enacted tort reform. When Illinois raised its income taxes by 67%, he launched a PR campaign urging Illinois businesses to “escape to Wisconsin.”

Token

29 Jan 12 at 12:24 pm
Facing the nation to explain why her office organised a race riot – using words Abbott didn’t use – this dishonest woman again used words Abbott didn’t use.

It really is like an illness.

They just can’t control themselves, their reaction to him is visceral, not rational. Abbott is the Great Satan, the left’s über-enemy, the avatar of everything they loathe – conservative, white, male, Catholic. His name to them is like the bell for Pavlov’s dogs, or a drop of blood in a pool of sharks, they’d push over their own mothers to stick something on him, they’d throw Gillard to a raging mob if they could just discredit him. So it would seem. They really are deranged.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 12:26 pm
The funny thing about this whole incident is that the tent-mob are now saying it “wasn’t their fault” because they hadn’t actually heard what Abbott had said.

Firstly, their actions are their responsibility. This excuse is pathetic.

Secondly, even if he had said to tear down the embassy, this doesn’t justify their actions. Everyone – Abbott included – is too soft on this issue. They’re basically implying that the actions of the mob would have been warranted otherwise.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 12:36 pm
The funny thing about this whole incident is that the tent-mob are now saying it “wasn’t their fault” because they hadn’t actually heard what Abbott had said.

They are always victims, who believe they should never have to be be held account for their actions (i.e. Labor Party voters)

Token

29 Jan 12 at 12:42 pm
That Scott Walker is a first class bastard, bringing jobs to his state and saving the jobs of good union workers…

After bleeding 150,000 jobs in the previous three years, Wisconsin added 10,000 jobs in 2011.

All this matters little to public-employee unions looking to regain their perks. Yet granting local governments the legal authority to hire and fire teachers and other workers based on merit—as well as requiring teachers to contribute 5.8% into their pensions (up from 0%) and all public employees to pay 12.6% of their health-care premiums (about half what most private workers pay)—has already saved local governments $475 million.

Rather than assaulting government workers, these reforms avoided mass layoffs and allowed school districts to maintain and in some cases even reduce class sizes. You’d think unions would celebrate this, but no such luck.

Token

29 Jan 12 at 12:46 pm
If you had a state premier who turned around the state budget from chronic deficit to surplus in one year, what you think the voters would do?

Recall him of course.

The tactics are the same everywhere, from Brussels to Brisbane. There is a large-scale attack on liberty being waged by the Neo-Fascist Left. When they lose, they seek to ‘win’ by suspending democracy.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 12:47 pm
Banal effort to bait-and-switch, THR.

I point out an article which defines how waqf is defined by paleosimian terrorists like Hiz’b'allah and Hamas, and by Wahabists and Salafists.

You launch into a spittle-flecked attack on the Jewish chap who wrote it. You said he was

mentally – and morally – challenged … wild and utterly false … utterly implausible, … rabid and degenerate Muslim-haters …an imbecile and a bigot.

Your words, racist, not mine.

yet those same paleosimian terrorists like Hiz’b'allah and Hamas, Wahabists and Salafists routinely prove Mr Yoram Ettinger correct, don’t they? They greeted the madrid bombings with joy, while the perpetraters saad they did it as revenge for losing Al Andalus!

There is no argument here. You have provided delicious proof of your rabid anti-semitism and by implication your approval of terrorist acts. End of story.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 12:54 pm
You launch into a spittle-flecked attack on the Jewish chap who wrote it.

No, the attack was against you, the degenerate bigot who habitually refers to Palestinian Arabs as ‘simians’.

yet those same paleosimian terrorists like Hiz’b’allah and Hamas, Wahabists and Salafists routinely prove Mr Yoram Ettinger correct, don’t they?

No, the hundreds of millions of Muslims who are behaving themselves prove you and your source wrong. Of course, you’re a far-right fruitcake, and much like the Nazis thought of Jews back in the 30s, you believe that even assimilation is evidence of Muslims’ perfidy.

I point out in passing that you seem to believe that blog commenters are not permitted to criticise Jewish bigots. This is a cler example of anti-semitism, since you seem to think Jews incapable of defending themselves, or of being incapable of bigotry. You are now a confirmed anti-semite.

THR

29 Jan 12 at 1:19 pm
THR, what is your hand doing on your crotch there?

Alex Pundit

29 Jan 12 at 1:46 pm
Topher’s calling for help to defend free speech
see Andrew Bolt’s blog today
blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/help_topher_to_defend_free_speech/
there are 2 videos at the link, one where he explains the project and one updating us on where he’s at with his fundraising
he needs another $10,000 by end of January, in his words ‘very very achievable’

and if you want to see an example of his work http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=853#comment-32101
Topher is brilliant and funny in my view

BTW correct link to the donation page is http://www.pozible.com/index.php/archive/index/4352/description/0/0

val majkus

29 Jan 12 at 2:00 pm
paleosimian terrorists like Hiz’b’allah and Hamas, Wahabists and Salafists

Lie: refers to Palestinian Arabs as ‘simians. Show one example where I have done so. Every single time I have used this term I have used it to insult terrorists as ‘primitive apes’. Hizb’allah is backed by Iranians, and most of its members outside Lebanon are iranian. Not even ethnically Arab! Most of the rest are Lebanese and Syrian. Hamas is backed by the Sauds and membership is more Egyptian than anything else. Wahabists are based in Saudi. Salafists are from all over. You really are ignorant, and you do SO object when people insult your beloved revolutionaries… I mean terrorists.

Another lie: …the attack was against you…. Oh no it was not and your own words prove it:

This is an excerpt from the … link:

Their loyalty … Portugal and elsewhere.

These are wild…

That you defend yourself by lying in this way shows that you have been nailed in an anti-semitic rant.

Then you go on to say that your own anti-semitic yowking somehow shows your interlocutor to be another anti-semite like you.

What a fascinating insight into the diseased ‘mind’ of a communist.

You really are no good at this ‘logic’ thing, are you, poor chap?

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 2:01 pm
I can’t for the life of me understand why Gillard wasn’t fully honest:

Cue wild laughter.

Viva

29 Jan 12 at 2:08 pm
sorry here’s the link to Andrew Bolt’s post http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/help_topher_to_defend_free_speech/
But note the link to the donation page is on my previous comment

val majkus

29 Jan 12 at 2:11 pm
You haven’t been following this very closely, have you, Adrien?

Of course not. It’s politics. But I’m wrong somehow?

Adrien

29 Jan 12 at 2:28 pm
I see the horrid ALP/Unionist/Museum Director has reversed her position to support the lying slapper

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 2:38 pm
News just breaking: Gillard claims staffer just tripped and fell into the lifeboat.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 2:38 pm
Didn’t take long for union to pull her into line…

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 2:50 pm
De Bovver Boys paid ‘er a quick visit, see?
Quick smack in de mouf, bit o’stompin from Sid, nice kick in de slats from Sluggo da toecutta an she’s all jake wid de Slapper, see?

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 3:05 pm
O’Neill appeared on Q&A to say that anybody who questioned Murdoch’s power was akin to the Nazis of the 1930s. He insinuated that his defence of Murdoch was to provide support for media to question the state. It turns out all along that multiple of Murdoch’s newspapers having been collaborating with the armed wing of the state, in order to break the law. But I suspect you knew that already.

No, he was pointing out that the press shouldn’t let their blind hatred of all things Murdochian lead them to become the enablers for severe limitation on press freedom. You are spinning THR. You’re smarter than this cheap shit. Some of us actually watched that episode of Q&A.

Abu Chowdah

29 Jan 12 at 3:08 pm
Didn’t take long for union to pull her into line…

A shovel came for her in the night no doubt.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 3:18 pm
Revise your statement, else no more union sinecures, no more quango board positions etc. etc. and every bit of dirt we have on you somehow gets out into the press. It’s the ~~Chicago~~ ALP way.

Matt

29 Jan 12 at 3:23 pm
Well down THR, you have managed to inserts Nazi’s into 2 separate unrelated conversations this week. Carry on…

O’Neill appeared on Q&A to say that anybody who questioned Murdoch’s power was akin to the Nazis of the 1930s. He insinuated…

Thanks for the reminder of O’Neill on Q&A. It is very easy to Google to find the transcript and O’Neill did not say what you verballed him about.

While I was there I did find this gem of a conversation about people that blames Alan Jones for the Cronulla riots and homophobic attacks (she is an air head).

TONY JONES: Can I interrupt there? Very briefly, have you seen that link drawn in Australia?

TANYA PLIBERSEK: No. No, I haven’t.

TONY JONES: Some people suggest, for example, the Cronulla riots…

STEPHEN MAYNE: Absolutely.

TONY JONES: …came, partly at least, as a result of talkback radio.

STEPHEN MAYNE: It was. It was incited by Alan Jones. Let’s say it.

TANYA PLIBERSEK: I believe it was incited and I’ll tell you something else….

BRENDAN O’NEILL: That’s incredible.

TANYA PLIBERSEK: I’ll tell you something else, Tony. I mean, you know, the Gabrielle Giffords, the crosshairs, if you think that that sort of thing doesn’t influence people, if you think that people out there saying homosexuals deserve to die and the Iraq war is God’s punishment on homosexuality, that that doesn’t increase…

BRENDAN O’NEILL: The implication…

TANYA PLIBERSEK: …homophobic violence it…

Token

29 Jan 12 at 3:26 pm
I think this is what THR was referring to…as Maxwell Smart would say – “Missed by that much”.

STEPHEN MAYNE: Well, I mean Rupert’s been abusing his power and this is not just about journalistic practices. This is about standing over politicians, having inappropriate access to politicians, negotiating regulatory approval for things. He’s knobbled the police. He’s knobbled the press regulator. It is a massive abuse of power. As Hugh Grant called it on 60 Minutes, it’s almost like a standover racket, where people are too scared to stand up to the bullying behaviour and if you’re not on their side they’ll do you over. They’ll do you over on the front page. They’ll steal your medical records. They’ll shaft you unless you give them commercial gains and unless you bow at their knee and say you are all powerful. You can decide who can be the Police Commissioner. You can decide what our policy is. You can back the Iraq war, therefore we better do what you say, Mr Murdoch.

BRENDAN O’NEILL: Are you serious? Are you serious?

STEPHEN MAYNE: He’s got a 58 year record…

BRENDAN O’NEILL: Replace the word “Murdoch”…

STEPHEN MAYNE: …of abusing – abusing his power.

BRENDAN O’NEILL: Replace – replace the word “Murdoch” with the word “Jew” and that’s exactly the kind of conspiracy theories that existed years ago. You know, people depict – people depict Murdoch as this all-powerful controlling force who dominates politics, dominates the police, dominates this, dominates that. It’s actually not accurate.

Token

29 Jan 12 at 3:31 pm
The ABC spins the Opposition’s questions over events as ‘squabbling’.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-29/union-official-defends-role-in-protest-fiasco/3798704

Abu Chowdah

29 Jan 12 at 3:31 pm
Exactly, token. These people are so rabid about this fantasy idea of Murdoch pulling the global strings that they will commit Seppuku on their own freedoms.

Abu Chowdah

29 Jan 12 at 3:33 pm
According to The Age version, it goes like this:

The adviser and the leak

■Media adviser Tony Hodges is at The Lobby restaurant on Australia Day before the PM’s arrival for an awards ceremony.

■Hodges is told by journalists about comments Abbott had made suggesting people should ”move on” from the Aboriginal tent embassy.

■Hodges decides there should be a response and contacts the office of ACT Indigenous Affairs Minister Chris Bourke, who is not available, and is referred to Unions ACT secretary Kim Sattler. He speaks to her by phone.

If this is correct (Hodges only learns about it via discussions with media at The Lodge), the only way Gillard could be involved would be if rang her first.

Given her likely schedule on the day, and the relative unimportance of what Abbott said, I think this improbable. The scenario also probably explains why media who were at the Lodge don’t think there is much to this (from the point of view of Gillard pre-knowledge.)

I could be proved wrong by later revelations, of course. But I think this is another case of premature excitement over the end of Gillard.

If anything, she faces a tougher test soon over misconduct findings by Thomson.

steve from brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 3:43 pm
If this is correct (Hodges only learns about it via discussions with media at The Lodge)

It breaks down there already – the idea that the media could be relied upon to accurately convey what Abbott had said, anytime, ever, is laughable.

Tim Blair nailed it yesterday:

But she [Salter] said at no time did Mr Hodges bend Tony Abbott’s words to say he wanted the tent embassy torn down.

Well, of course he didn’t. The very idea is laughable. Hodges just called his unionist pal to say that Abbott had spoken earlier about how our indigenous people can be very proud of the respect in which they are held by every Australian, and that it might be time to move on from the events that led to the establishment of the tent embassy 40 years ago.

Obviously.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 3:53 pm
Sorry, that quote was not from Salter, or Sattler for that matter, that was Gingerella herself.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 3:59 pm
This could just be a case of Chinese Whispers gone bad – between the media telling Hodges, Hodges telling Sattler, and Sattler telling the tent embassy folks I’m surprised they didn’t think Abbott had said the embassy should be nuked and the earth salted afterwards, purple monkey dishwasher.

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 4:03 pm
If Gillard murdered someone Steve would blame the victim for being there in the first place.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 4:03 pm
looks to me like the overall game plan is to get Mr Abbott however they can ethically or not just make it up if they have to and Ms Gillard’s close staff are all under instruction to do that, like a carte blanche sort of thing

candy

29 Jan 12 at 4:07 pm
Either Hodges or Sattler lied about Abbott’s words. Sadly they can’t get the story straight.

Stevie, if Hodges is as innocent as you choose to portray then why on earth would he resign and why would she accept his resignation? Perhaps so he can be shut up and looked after.

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 4:07 pm
“I see the horrid ALP/Unionist/Museum Director has reversed her position to support the lying slapper”

What?! Really?! That didn’t take long. Wonder her pressured her to recant.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 4:15 pm
…who

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 4:16 pm
Replace – replace the word “Murdoch” with the word “Jew” and that’s exactly the kind of conspiracy theories that existed years ago.

Except that Mr Murdoch is an individual who controls a media empire and the European Jews were disparate individuals who shared an ethno-religious heritage and the Nazis said that the Jews were responsible for Germany’s loss of WWI and were controlling the banks to make everyone poor and behind the Bolshevik revolution and controlled world history – a preposterous claim on the basis of no evidence whereas Mayne is only saying that News Ltd abuses its power and exerts undue influence which is a standard accusation of malfeasance with quite a bit of evidence and…

I mean, really, is the the best mind Murdoch can muster in his defense someone who graduated from the Trotsky School of Rhetoric? I’m reading another ex-alumnus of that esteemed Bullshit Factory Tariq Ali, aaaargghhh, it’s such a bore. These people never learned that just because you write something doesn’t make it true or even credible.

Adrien

29 Jan 12 at 4:17 pm
I’ve been out all day and haven’t heard any news. So just wondering if the love meeja is now denying there was ever a violent angry mob on Australia Day.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 4:18 pm
The lying slapper says that the lying sattler was “misrepresented”. Clearly the fault of the hate meeja and Abbott

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 4:43 pm
I could be proved wrong by later revelations, of course. But I think this is another case of premature excitement over the end of Gillard.

So steve, the PM is not responsible for her own office now. That’s for people in her department trying to start a race riot.

Yep, punterville will surely look at it like that.

Fuck, you’re dickhead.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:05 pm
I can’t see how Gillard can survive this.

How often have we thought this over the past year? How often has she wriggled free?

Premature excitement? Forget it.

Viva

29 Jan 12 at 5:22 pm
We’ll soon know if Gillard will wriggle her way out this time, from Bolt:

Samantha Maiden says Newspoll is doing is polling this weekend, of all weekends for Gillard.

Its last poll, taken in December, had Labor on 46 per cent of the 2PP to the Coalition’s 54.

Your guess what it will be now?

Andreas

29 Jan 12 at 5:30 pm
Agreed, Viva. Its a game of attrition, and this is a very nice own-goal. Not the way the MSM will spin it, of course.

Can you imagine what a genuine, professional press gallery journalist could do with this?

Pity their are not any in the Canberra press gallery, only a worthless collection of toadies, shills, suckholes and hacks.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 5:32 pm
All we need now is for El Rooto Thompson to be linked via credit card to a Fyswick brothel whilst his boss is being skull dragged across a carpark.

Via it as comedy folks. Dulls the pain.

Pickles

29 Jan 12 at 5:35 pm
All that counts is two party pref.

I reckon the slapper’s party has lost 2 point. Coalition at 56 while the slapper’s Alliance 44.

Those morons can’t even take a holiday without fucking everything up. Seriously this is the down time and we end up having the slapper walking away from a written agreement with Wilkie, “Rock” Albanese doing a poor imitation of US president in a Hollywood movie and the slapper’s office now trying to ignite race riots.

That’s just the fucking holidays. Can you imagine the abortion when these union clerks get back to work?

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:38 pm
I reckon the slapper’s party has lost 2 point. Coalition at 56 while the slapper’s Alliance 44.

I would consider this proof that 44% of the voting population is functionally retarded. How can anyone support these guys?

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 5:41 pm
All we need now is for El Rooto Thompson to be linked via credit card to a Fyswick brothel whilst his boss is being skull dragged across a carpark.

Via it as comedy folks. Dulls the pain.

We’re damn lucky the crap we sell at at 150 year highs in terms of trade. Can you imagine the state of the economy if these idiots were in charge when things weren’t as hot? The Aussie dollar would sink to a few cents in the dollar.

I don’t say this to exaggerate, but pound for pound I think the Greek government is better than this lot. They’re “smarter”.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:42 pm
Actually, I take back what I said about the entire 44% being retarded… At least 30 percentage points of that 44% would be comprised of cronies, rent seekers and bludgers.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 5:46 pm
I would consider this proof that 44% of the voting population is functionally retarded. How can anyone support these guys?

Dunno. But boy it’s funny to watch. Imagine all the pep meetings they have and all the crap they talk about.

Oh look, this just a temporary blip and things will get better as soon as we start selling our policies more effectively.

We need to get out there in the electorate and explain to working families how much we’ve done for them and how effective we’ve been in making sure they’re looked after.

This is just the low point. People will begin to see that we’re doing a great job and Tony Abbott is a negative ne’er-do-well Catholic.

We have to fight harder.

Tony Abbott is a nasty man

tell the public the race riot was Abbott’s fault.

That would be the swill those idiots are talking about at their pep meetings.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:50 pm
Oh … and

Let’s make 2012 labor’s year of consolidation.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:51 pm
Oh and

People will realize the fantastic productivity gains we’ll make as soon as the carbon tax kicks in and there will be green job galore being created.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:53 pm
The “Abbott is just so negative” is the one that always makes me chuckle. Voters are feeling pretty negative at the moment.

Imagine… ALP tries to incite a race-riot against Tony – and he has the audacity to get all negative about it. “An inquiry?”, screeches Gingerella, “How dare you question my involvement!” (he didn’t). “This is just proof of how negative Tony can be!”

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 5:56 pm
Don’t forget, “People don’t like Tony. If Turnbull was the leader…”

LOL.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 5:57 pm
lol yea… The slapper is forced to fire Betaboy Hodges from her office and it’s Abbott’s fault because he’s being so negative.

As Rock Albanese said, this government is dealing with serious issues and needs serious people.

AHahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

JC

29 Jan 12 at 5:59 pm
Lol

If only was more positive about the government’s policies. His negativity brings everyone down and he’s Catholic.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 6:01 pm
Oh I didn’t mean it was cheap entertainment. We are lucky that we have a strong cast flow. If the electorate needs a lesson like this every so often then so be it. Good use of the cash flow.

But my word it’s a lesson and a half. Oakshite reckoned it was beautiful in its ugliness or some such. That was before it started.

At what point does he call it quits? Or does he think this is OK?

Pickles

29 Jan 12 at 6:01 pm
Reporter: Are you mad?!
Gillard: I’m furious!

[Yeah, I know, our lefty media would never ask such an obvious question of a lefty]

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 6:02 pm
At what point does he call it quits? Or does he think this is OK?

You kidding. Where’s he going to earn $180,000 a year. He’ll be lucky getting a janitor’s job after 13.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 6:03 pm
Tell you what though. You’ve got to hand it to Ray Hadley. He was relentless in pursuing this.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 6:11 pm
What the Greens Party wants to achieve with their media ‘quiry.

Two Iranian bloggers are to be executed for ‘spreading corruption’ – as Tehran cracks down on freedom of expression in the run up to its parliamentary elections in March.

Four journalists have also been arrested, prompting the U.S. State Department to urge Iranian officials to ‘protect the rights of all its citizens and uphold the rule of law’…

On the arrests and imminent executions, U.S. State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland said: ‘We are deeply concerned by the alarming increase in the Iranian regime’s efforts to extinguish all forms of free expression and limit its citizens’ access to information.’

JC

29 Jan 12 at 6:17 pm
Him and headley Thomas have started the year well. Holmes JA is in a bit of a bind in Briz. How was evidence vital to the fundamental question not found? Not disclosed? Not sought relentlessly by counsel assisting?

Pickles

29 Jan 12 at 6:19 pm
Jeez

Wish those tent protestors looked like this. I’d be on their side in a NY minute.

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=37263

JC

29 Jan 12 at 6:22 pm
All we need now is for El Rooto Thompson to be linked via credit card to a Fyshwick brothel…

I want Thommo’s car to collide with Fr Slipper’s in the dead of night, complete with CCTV footage.

Next day, Gillard will hold a press conference saying both men were innocently attending a meeting (held at the “Pink Pussy” conference room) to decide how to counter Abbott’s relentless negativity.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 6:22 pm
I checked out the topless protesters at Davos, at Verum Serum. A much classier, attention grabbing, sensible and honourable demonstration than those losers at occupy where ever.

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 6:27 pm
Careful CL. thinking that sort of shit seems to be enough to make it happen lately.

It’s like an episode of Houseos.

Pickles

29 Jan 12 at 6:41 pm
So let’s review events,

First they release the referendum report, Abbott doesn’t bite,
Then Garrett comes out with teaching invasion day on Aust Day, Abbott doesn’t bite,
Then Albo plagiarizes US films to attack Abbott, backfires and Abbott doesn’t bite,
Then the tent embassy imbroglio, Abbott doesn’t bite.
They tried for a week to get Abbott to say something, anything, so they can portray him as a racist as a lead in to the first poll of the year and to set up the start of the parliamentary year. Yep Hodges acted alone, because he’s the only one trying to portray Abbott as a racist.

John Comnenus

29 Jan 12 at 6:42 pm
TS I had to watch that several times (just to understand their chants of course).

My, those girls were cold.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 6:44 pm
John, intriguing review. Bolt used to be an ALP staffer, and he notes that the media messages for the days and weeks ahead are very carefully planned and set by very senior politicians indeed.

I am leaning more and more towards JC’s assessment that Juliar was in this up to her eyeballs.

Mk50 of Brisbane

29 Jan 12 at 6:47 pm
talking about old and because I remember the old Yugoslavia
C’mon Djokovic
And for Ernest Hemingway
C’mon Nadal

Hope it’s an interesting match

val majkus

29 Jan 12 at 7:13 pm
MK50

Helps to realise that the ALP are basically leadership driven, aka the Fuehrer Prinzip, so Gillard, being the leader, is being saved by having a few scape goats (Hodges) put to the sword.

The limited experience I have with ALP types (and lefties in general) is they actually believe the crap peddled about Abbott.

Oh and here’s a pithy comment – ever wonder why lefties never learn from history? Because they keep rewriting it.

Louis Hissink

29 Jan 12 at 7:20 pm
sorry, to appreciate my comment you need a weird background which I doubt any of you have
and I believe TA was set up and said so yesterday
JG’s statement was first party hearsay plus self serving to boot
and that doesn’t count for witness reliability in my book

val majkus

29 Jan 12 at 7:21 pm
Is Sattler the person in the footage of the Australia Day dishonesty grinning and holding up a camera?

It looks like her and she sure seems pleased with everything that was going on.

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 7:21 pm
The only type of scandal this mob has not got into relates to drugs.

NSW Labor had that angle covered, and luckily for Baz more is coming out.

FORMER Labor minister Verity Firth’s husband Matthew Chesher was a habitual cocaine user who owed his dealer $250 when police caught him buying ecstasy.

Chesher, a political adviser, bought cocaine and ecstasy “on four or five previous occasions” from Pyrmont drug-dealer Gerald Hugh Gordon, court documents reveal.

Token

29 Jan 12 at 7:22 pm
…”Australia Day dishonesty”… not dishonestly grinning.

Tiny Dancer

29 Jan 12 at 7:23 pm
Louis it’s called groupthink
you assimilate the thinking current in your workplace

val majkus

29 Jan 12 at 7:28 pm
and other workplaces if you count all the love media including *sadly’ the ABC

I heard somewhere that the protestors were calling out ‘shame Julia shame’ as the leaders were bundled out

does anyone know what all that was about – the ALP machine has successfully bundled all the attention on what Abbott said

val majkus

29 Jan 12 at 7:39 pm
Jo Nova reports on a movement in Sicily campaigning against high taxes and corrupt politicians.

These are some of their demands:

The arrest of all corrupt politicians.
To reduce the number of parliamentarians
To remove the provincial bureaucracy, as most of these politicians
have been there for over forty years.
To drastically cut the salaries and privileges of parliamentarians
and senators
To restrict politicians two only two terms in office

Paul Williams

29 Jan 12 at 7:48 pm
I heard somewhere that the protestors were calling out ‘shame Julia shame’ as the leaders were bundled out

The feral mob didn’t stick to the game plan as orchestrated by the ALP’s Ministry of Truth.

Own goal.

Pedro the Ignorant

29 Jan 12 at 8:15 pm
Changing the subject slightly. I just caught a bit on 60 minutes that the creators of South Park have a very successful Broadway show running “The Book of Mormon”. It was described as a blasphemous and sacreligous take on Mormon missionaries.

Maybe they should take on a real challenge, instead of a ‘turn the other cheek’ target, and create one on the Koran.

Biota

29 Jan 12 at 8:22 pm
Actually those two lads have had plenty of cracks at Islam.

Their network, the Comedy Network were too afraid and pulled the most sacrilegeous islamic parody episode.

The curs.

The duo also did ‘Team America’ which ripped radical islamic terrorits as well as Kim Jong-il

JamesK

29 Jan 12 at 8:55 pm
Didn’t SP guys grow up in Utah? I’d say they’re entitled to make some cracks at Mormons.

But as JamesK says, they’ve had quite a few cracks at Islam – even if their network keeps blocking their attempts.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 9:28 pm
I love the SP guys… I wouldn’t wantto be one of their targets though – they are merciless.

Fleeced

29 Jan 12 at 9:29 pm
The duo also did ‘Team America’ which ripped radical islamic terrorits as well as Kim Jong-il

And F.A.G (Film Actors Guild). They were absolutely ruthless with Hollywood … Sean Penn and Matt Damon . Even the Neo-Con right copped it.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 9:38 pm
Well, I clearly don’t watch enough TV, or the wrong stuff! Interesting. I assumed that there would be a price on their heads if they had taken on Islam.

Biota

29 Jan 12 at 9:50 pm
But as JamesK says, they’ve had quite a few cracks at Islam – even if their network keeps blocking their attempts.

Which surely raises the question of how sincere they are about their Islam sketches. They know they’ll be canned.

Why don’t they threaten to resign?

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 9:53 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Comment over at the billabong from the Prof:

BunyipJan 28, 2012 05:53 PM

Hammygar: I’m amazed your could make out Abbott’s words with head jammed so far and firmly up your arse. It is one extraordinary, unlikely skill that defines the idiot savant. Remarkable hearing must be yours. Sadly, the ability to repeat with accuracy what was heard remains undeveloped.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 9:56 pm
test

Sinclair Davidson

29 Jan 12 at 10:34 pm
Very becoming Sinc.

Use it as ur photo on the next article commissioned by the pinata-stabbin’ Jonathan Greene.

I’m sure you beat Judith’s hate comment score score with a mug like that

JamesK

29 Jan 12 at 10:45 pm
I can’t make out Sinclair’s new look. Is it a pic of Darth Vadar?

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 10:48 pm
Aaeeeiii!

Darth Davidson.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 10:49 pm
Darth Sinky

Sinclair Davidson

29 Jan 12 at 10:52 pm
Darth Sinky?? Not to my liking. It sounds like a plumbing business.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 10:54 pm
I was just reading a Bloomberg story on the Gillard Race Riot and the headline of course mentioned that she was “angry.”

I literally laughed out loud.

This is a new one, patented to the ALP.

Whenever they screw up, they attempt to deflect their responsibility by saying THEY TOO are angry, dag-nab-it!

Another recent sighting:

“I can’t say enough how angry I am about this circumstance,” she said.

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 10:57 pm
ouch

Sinclair Davidson

29 Jan 12 at 10:57 pm
CL – apparently there is no one more angry than Gillard on this whole business. Another lie. How can she know how angry everyone else is?

Sinclair Davidson

29 Jan 12 at 10:58 pm
No sting meant, Sinclair.

Gab

29 Jan 12 at 10:59 pm
yeah, yeah – nobody loves me.

Sinclair Davidson

29 Jan 12 at 11:01 pm
Why doesn’t Mr Kidman get a hair-cut, a shave and a tailor?

He’s beginning to look like Nicole’s tranvestite friend, ‘Keith.’

C.L.

29 Jan 12 at 11:07 pm
Why doesn’t Mr Kidman get a hair-cut, a shave and a tailor?
He’s beginning to look like Nicole’s tranvestite friend, ‘Keith.’

Lol. tough but fair.

JC

29 Jan 12 at 11:08 pm
how about doomlord?

Sinclair Davidson

29 Jan 12 at 11:09 pm
Nicole Kidman looks gorgeous. I love that little clip in her hair, it’s really cute.

candy

29 Jan 12 at 11:13 pm
Well do you wonder, when you go around annoucing yourself as “Darth Sinky” with that heavy breathing voice??!

I prefer Doomlord. Please use that name for next Drum epic

Gabrielle

29 Jan 12 at 11:16 pm
Misread that as Darth Stinky – the plumber reference may have been even more appropriate. And the picture wasn’t coming up.

kae

29 Jan 12 at 11:21 pm
“Doomlord Davidson”. Yep. Has a nice ring to it. Threatening and yet refined.

Gabrielle

29 Jan 12 at 11:23 pm
The Doomlords

That’ll trump the “Neocons”.

Well done Sinclair – this will probably be a meme on the lefty blogs by Friday !!

Myrddin Seren

29 Jan 12 at 11:26 pm
Some very scary graphs.

The degree to which central banks around the world are printing money is unprecedented.

The first eight charts below show the balance sheets of the largest central banks in the world. They are the European Central Bank (ECB), the Federal Reserve (Fed), the Bank of Japan (BoJ), the Bank of England (BoE), the Bundesbank (Germany), the Banque de France, the People’s Bank of China (PBoC) and the Swiss National Bank (SNB). Noted on the charts are significant events or growth rates.

Shown is the size of each respective balance sheet in its local currency. Note that all are exploding higher as every chart goes from the lower left to the upper right. Most are still making new all-time highs. If the basic definition of quantitative easing (QE) is a significant increase in a central bank’s balance sheet via increasing banking reserves, then all eight of these central banks are engaged in QE.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/01/living-in-a-qe-world/

Jarrah

30 Jan 12 at 12:32 am
There was also an unprecedented drop in NGDP which if left unchecked would have ended up being worse than the 1930/32 Depression.

Don’t let that chart scare you. The CB’s belatedly did their job after collapsing NGDP.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 12:36 am
Who doesn’t think Mitt Romney needs a mustache? BOOM!

spot

30 Jan 12 at 12:48 am
Maybe Since “Doomlord” Davidson needs a mustache, too. An evil, twirly one.

spot

30 Jan 12 at 12:50 am
Sinc, not Since.

/damned iPad

spot

30 Jan 12 at 12:50 am
Andrew Sullivan goves his opinion on the Romney/Gingrich match up. I was half expecting he was about to suggest Gingrich is pregnant.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/bare-knuckle-battle-looms-in-florida/story-e6frg6ux-1226256632593

JC

30 Jan 12 at 1:28 am
Sink Lord.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 2:03 am
Nicole Kidman looks gorgeous. I love that little clip in her hair, it’s really cute.

Thanks, Betty Boop.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 2:05 am
I was half expecting he was about to suggest Gingrich is pregnant.

I heard he was thinking of running the line that Newt was Sarah’s baby daddy.

#TrigTruthersForTruth

spot

30 Jan 12 at 2:36 am
Canberra Stenographer & SMH luvvie tries to get the media message back on the track as prescribed to him by his bosses:

After ending last year on a fizzer, Gillard’s start to this year is no better.

Advertisement: Story continues below The Prime Minister had little option but to deal with Andrew Wilkie early on, rather than let his divisive poker machine demands fester within the party until Wilkie’s May deadline. Despite buying inner peace, the dumping of the deal was always going to have adverse side-effects regarding reputation – and it did.

The Australia Day debacle was not of Gillard’s making but is probably more damaging.

Yes, if you feel like it is Groundhog Day, say story every single day, of course that was Punxsutawney Phil Coorey writing that.

Unfortunately for Phil, his stablemate Paul Sheehan disagrees:

Even readers of the Herald and the National Times overwhelmingly expressed their disapproval of the Aboriginal ”embassy” in an online poll conducted on Thursday and Friday. Most of 25,853 votes agreed the tent embassy’s time had passed or never existed. Only 15 per cent expressed support.

The root cause was found within the Prime Minister’s staff. One of her press secretaries, Tony Hodges, used race to make political mischief even though indigenous affairs had been an area of tacit bipartisanship between Julia Gillard and the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 8:08 am
The Doomlords

That’ll trump the “Neocons”.

Well done Sinclair – this will probably be a meme on the lefty blogs by Friday !!

Did this idea arise from one of the more “creative and constructive” comments about your link to the IPA by one of the informed readers at the Drum?

Token

30 Jan 12 at 8:14 am
that little clip in her hair, it’s really cute.

candy
29 Jan 12 at 11:13 pm

One of the mysteries of life is why women think things stuck in their hair is attractive. Ponytails, yes; fascinators, clips, bobby pins, no.

entropy

30 Jan 12 at 8:44 am
Something for those of you who are silly enough to use Twitter.

http://twitter.com/RogueStaffer

boy on a bike

30 Jan 12 at 8:52 am
The latest three Florida Primary polls:

NBC News/Marist
Romney 42, Gingrich 27, Santorum 16, Paul 11
Romney +15

Miami Herald/Mason-Dixon
Romney 42, Gingrich 31, Santorum 14, Paul 6
Romney +11

Rasmussen Reports Romney 44, Gingrich 28, Santorum 12, Paul 10
Romney +16

JamesK

30 Jan 12 at 9:20 am
Ray Hadley has announced this morning that he has multiple confirmed sources which state Mr Hodges said:

1. Abbott wanted the tent embassy torn down
2. Where Abbott can be found.

Watch this space, the PM has mislead the public in her press conference.

Plus, Hodges told senior PM staffers McTiernan & Kelly confirming the above on Thur afternoon (as confirmed by Kelly in a conversation with Latike Burke of Radio National).

Token

30 Jan 12 at 9:56 am
She didn’t know about the actions of her staff for over a business day. Who is in control in the office?

Ray Hadley announces Sam Casey from PM office was with Hodges.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 10:00 am
Token

What the Greens “quiry doing its best to shut people like Hadley down.

They will you know. I have no doubt.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:01 am
What the Greens “quiry doing its best to shut people like Hadley down.

They will you know. I have no doubt.

Exactly. They hate talk radio as it has continued to be an effective way to work through the spin & lies of the Liars Party & Greenslimers.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 10:02 am
She didn’t know about the actions of her staff for over a business day. Who is in control in the office?

She may not be, however the media chief certainly is and it would be interesting to see many times the lying slapper and the media chief communicated that day.

She may not be in direct control however the slapper certainly is responsible.

Ray Hadley announces Sam Casey from PM office was with Hodges.

Who is this fucker.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:08 am
STEPHEN MAYNE: It was. It was incited by Alan Jones. Let’s say it.

TANYA PLIBERSEK: I believe it was incited and I’ll tell you something else….

BRENDAN O’NEILL: That’s incredible.

TANYA PLIBERSEK: I’ll tell you something else, Tony. I mean, you know, the Gabrielle Giffords, the crosshairs, if you think that that sort of thing doesn’t influence people, if you think that people out there saying homosexuals deserve to die and the Iraq war is God’s punishment on homosexuality, that that doesn’t increase…

BRENDAN O’NEILL: The implication…

TANYA PLIBERSEK: …homophobic violence it…

Pilbersek is not a rational human being. She is an internet bot, perpetuating some weird meme.

.

30 Jan 12 at 10:09 am
By the way, I guess leftwingers like marfan man, Stephen Mayne will no longer accuse just Alan Jones for starting a race riot.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:09 am
Dot..
Snap!

WTF. The coincidence is frightening.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:10 am
Hey the old lezzo, Tony Windsor and Oakeshit must be doing cart wheels over their decision to hitch themselves onto this train wreck of a government.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:13 am
From Bolt’s site

Independent MP Andrew Wilkie also has trouble accepting Julia Gillard’s word on her office’s involvement in inciting the Australia Day race riot:

INDEPENDENT MP Andrew Wilkie has raised the prospect of supporting a no-confidence motion in Labor over the Australia Day security scare.

Pay back is a real bitch.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:18 am
which old lezzo? Wilkie? Is he a lezzo trapped in a man’s body?

papachango

30 Jan 12 at 10:18 am
She may not be, however the media chief certainly is and it would be interesting to see many times the lying slapper and the media chief communicated that day.

The chief is a major spinner from the worst days of the Blair / Brown regime.

Ray Hadley announces Sam Casey from PM office was with Hodges.

He was the other Gillard staffer who was with Hodges talking to the media. I note his name as it proves the mistatement made by the lying slapper in the press conference on Saturday.

Gillard’s staff knew the name of the other person briefing the press / aboriginal activists on Saturday when she held that conference.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 10:19 am
I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

This will be interesting to.

Did anyone from Gillard’s office contact beforehand the ABC journalist who asked Tony Abbott the question about the tent embassy that Labor then seized on?

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:20 am
Wilkie wouldn’t go for it unless he had an iron-clad guarantee, signed theatrically in front of the cameras, from Abbott to ban poker machines, or introduce $10 maximum limits in any 24 hour period.

papachango

30 Jan 12 at 10:20 am
CL calls Windsor the old lezzo. Funny hey?

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:21 am
Hilarious for 15 year olds, JC.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 10:23 am
the PM has mislead the public in her press conference.

I’m shocked I tell you. Shocked!

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 10:26 am
It no longer matters if the ABC was in this or not. What matters now is if the Coalition is able to create the perception that the ABC were in the public’s mind and that it’s just a Alliance appendage (ABC).

If they do this and do it well it will give them an excellent excuse to “reform” the ABC…. “serving all Australians” when they get back into government which shouldn’t be too long now.

The coalition would be fucking mad to pass up this opportunity. Make the accusation the ABC reporter was in on it and that it was a conspiracy from the PM office with the ABC in on it and let them fucking deny it. The denial alone could be used as an admission.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:26 am
Fuck off Steve. Get back to the laundry and sort out the day’s washing and ironing.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:30 am
you just don’t make the cut, jc

http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/us-inflation-about-to-surge/#comment-38921

Taya is a rare fellow, in that he is basically a decent and intelligent fellow who wants to be a politician. So he compromises with idiocy on both sides of the political fence. He’s also a monetary crank, as it turns out. What I’m saying that even if you take out the excessive compromising, he’s not intellectually perfect. But he’s fundamentally a good guy. He’s the only free-banker I have any sort of sympathy with ((((( actually that is not quite true. On a social level I find Rabbi SOON to be a fellow of excellent company)))))), except for those libertarians that I would have to consider “the economics laity.” Free banking SOUNDS like the right idea to the libertarian economics-laity. But its a horrendous and mean-spirited lie.

As we have seen from that fucking Woppy right there above.

jtfsoon

30 Jan 12 at 10:31 am
Ms Gillard’s fall was a bit nasty on an unfit body like hers, easily could have sprained ankle, strained back, damaged knee, pulled a shoulder muscle.
but i don’t read of concern by her colleagues etc about whether she had medical treatment and if she’s okay etc perhaps i’ve overlooked some news articles but.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 10:32 am
Bird’s having a bad weekend Jase. The head pains are making him really aggressive. Very very nasty weekend.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:34 am
Candy:

You’re having us on, right? LOL

Ms Gillard’s fall was a bit nasty on an unfit body like hers

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:35 am
JF Beck notes how the Love Media is reporting that story were Abbott caused a race riot…

Delicious reporting from Juice Media and Crikey.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 10:36 am
JC Not joking I notice the fall was nasty for a middle aged unfit body – the muscles are pulled to extent not trained for, just saying wondering if her mates checked up on her.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 10:38 am
papachango I don’t know what a lezzo is either it’s some code word the dudes use on Catallaxy i think

candy

30 Jan 12 at 10:39 am
Ms Gillard’s fall was a bit nasty on an unfit body like hers

Will she claim compo for a sprained knee perhaps?

boy on a bike

30 Jan 12 at 10:45 am
Great news, BoltA notes John Fayne has taken the SoB approach saying the whole event is a beat up.

Go have a look at the article as you’ll love the photo with the protester with a spear pointed a police.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 10:57 am
”put your spear away, arsehole.”

Hilarious! Even better than “get off my plane”!

Peter Patton

30 Jan 12 at 11:30 am
…….and the leftwing arsehole with the spear wasn’t arrested?

Thank god I’m an aboriginal and above the law.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 11:33 am
oh well at least he looks like a real aboriginal not fat, with the spear held high, a classy genuine look.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 11:40 am
waiting for Newspoll this evening reminds me of this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNf70eV6sY

JC

30 Jan 12 at 11:41 am
oh well at least he looks like a real aboriginal not fat, with the spear held high, a classy genuine look.

Yea, that’s what I thought too Candy. At least it wasn’t a fat fuck brandishing a spear as it wouldn’t have been a good look for the “activists”.

Candy, it’s times like this when it obvious you’re trolling.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 11:43 am
has taken the SoB approach saying the whole event is a beat up.

Rubbish. The event on the day was disgraceful and stated as such on my blog. I have criticised mOnty and THR for saying it was all an over-reaction by the police.

There is beat-uppery going on now about Federal investigations into the PM’s office, but that’s a different matter.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 11:46 am
Rubbish. The event on the day was disgraceful and stated as such on my blog.

Shit. Did you? Wow. That’s authoritative. It’s like the Wall Street Journal coming out with an editorial opinion.

Call me impressed, Steve. It was very very brave of you to do that and your family should be proud.

I have criticised mOnty and THR for saying it was all an over-reaction by the police.

Get out the medal. I’m pinning one on you.

There is beat-uppery going on now about Federal investigations into the PM’s office, but that’s a different matter.

Can I ask, steve? have you finished the laundry and made the bed this morning?

JC

30 Jan 12 at 11:50 am
lighten up JC just joking and the teddies are happy

candy

30 Jan 12 at 11:54 am
IT invented the “old lezzo” moniker for Windsor.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 11:54 am
Oh it was IT? Okay.

He comes up with some good ones at times.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 11:56 am
British Met: ‘global warming’ over…

Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years.

The supposed ‘consensus’ on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years.

The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century.

Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.

Meanwhile, leading climate scientists yesterday told The Mail on Sunday that, after emitting unusually high levels of energy throughout the 20th Century, the sun is now heading towards a ‘grand minimum’ in its output, threatening cold summers, bitter winters and a shortening of the season available for growing food.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 11:57 am
When was the last time that arsehole actually killed a turtle or a kangaroo with that spear?

You’re not supposed to say this, but he doesn’t look entirely black either. So you can wander freely round the grounds near parliament house with a lethal weapon, and even brandish it threateningly as long as you are or claim to be a bit Aboriginal? Good to know.

papachango

30 Jan 12 at 12:04 pm
He’s back.

Capitalist Piggy

30 Jan 12 at 12:21 pm
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years.

And just which prestigious scientific journal has published a peer review paper reporting this. Oh, it’s not a scientific journal, it’s the least reliable, most rabidly denialist newspaper in the UK, the Mail. Not to matter, perhaps it was written by a senior and credible journalist. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. It was written by a hack with as much credibility as Comical Ali. And speaking of Iraq, Rose first rose to prominence peddling WMD propaganda and garbage fed to him by the thoroughly disgraced Ahmed Chalabi. If anything he has surpassed his shonky record there with his record of serial epic failures promoting denialist twaddle (but I repeat myself, given that all denialism is by definition twaddle). Deltoid has a whole file devoted to his fails, and there is another taste of it here.

And so the denial echo chamber continues its work – denailist links to denialist who quotes denialists. One of these days denialism might come up with something credible. Today is not that day. (Bet it’s not tomorrow either.)

1080

30 Jan 12 at 12:27 pm
“denialism”, “denial echo chamber”, “denialist links”, “denialist newspaper”.

Such bizarre language.

twostix

30 Jan 12 at 12:39 pm
Such bizarre language.

that’s Metro my carbon salve. It’s how he talks. No harm done.

metro, the fridge please.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 12:41 pm
Jason Morrison’s editorial this morning on 2UE sounds a lot like what we’ve been talking about on the Cat.

How the PM’s department tried to set up Abbott & how the press gallery followed the assigned script.

Jason notes Tony Hodges was on around $200k per year from the public purse, so he is not a junior staffer.

Morrison also notes the Canberra how the Canberra Press Gang were sending Hodges tributes on Friday night after he resigned.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 12:41 pm
Such bizarre language.

Thank you for reading it so we don’t have to, twostix.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 12:43 pm
1080 reminds me of Judge Roland Freisler.

Such a jumped up, whacked out lunatic fringe dweller for an all powerful state.

What a misanthropic berk.

.

30 Jan 12 at 12:46 pm
Token

It’s true, we the taxpayer were basically paying $200,000 for that fucking arsehole, Tony Hodges to start a race riot.

This illustrates perfectly why I’m a libertarian and wish to see government downgraded to the equivalent of a skeleton. Every bit of fucking flesh needs to be ripped away from these pricks.

I’m beginning to think Ron Paul is right.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 12:53 pm
The latest “attack ad” against Romney. (Scroll down to see “I ride Inside”.) Priceless.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 12:55 pm
Fr Bob “Please Like Me Lefties” Maguire finally pushed off:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-30/the-beginning-not-the-end/3799864

Not without a standard Please Like Me Lefties performance for the ABC, though.

Adios, Bob.

Thanks for rolling over and capitulating meekly on all the difficult debates of the day.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 12:58 pm
Metro just denounced the Daily Mail as a source – before posting a link to Dogs Against Romney.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 12:59 pm
On ABC midday, the Greek default is to be avoided by private bond holders forfieting 50% of their investment. Why would they do that?

Biota

30 Jan 12 at 12:59 pm
I’m beginning to think Ron Paul is right.

He is right.

On the size and threat of government, he’s 100 percent right.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 1:00 pm
On ABC midday, the Greek default is to be avoided by private bond holders forfieting 50% of their investment. Why would they do that?

Don’t call it a default. It’s a voluntary rescheduling that allows the ECB Greek holding to be held at the full 100% face value.

It’s the biggest bath of private investors since Odumbo fucked the GM bondholders in favor of the unions.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 1:03 pm
2GB have posted the Ray Hadley program from today.

Ray reveals more details on the resignation of the Prime Minister’s media advisor, Tony Hodges.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 1:07 pm
It’s a voluntary rescheduling that allows the ECB Greek holding to be held at the full 100% face value.

So the Germans and French have to cop this reverse Gresham’s law AND subsidise the rest of Europe through stimulus?

Watch German productivity plummet to pre 1980s Irish levels. What a bunch of simple tuber farmers. It’s like getting rid of nuke and replacing it with turf cut for fuel.

.

30 Jan 12 at 1:15 pm
It’s the biggest bath of private investors

Indeed that’s what it sounds like. It’s the ‘voluntary’ bit that has me curious. Out of the goodness of their hearts? Sure!

Biota

30 Jan 12 at 1:17 pm
Watch German productivity plummet to pre 1980s Irish levels. What a bunch of simple tuber farmers. It’s like getting rid of nuke and replacing it with turf cut for fuel.

How many weeks before we get Iranians without passports with heavy German accents arriving at Christmas Island?

Token

30 Jan 12 at 1:18 pm
There will be a rau over that one.

.

30 Jan 12 at 1:23 pm
Even Bill Kristol is getting pessimistic about Republican chances come November. And the experts here have been telling us that Obama was dead meat? How can this be? Have the normally razor sharp Cat pundits missed something? Possible I guess. “But there are differences between 2012 and 1980. One is that the Republicans have no Reagan. Another is that it may not be as clear that Obama has failed as was the case with Carter.” Nice bit of understatement there from Bill. The Republicans have no Reagan. Ya think?

1080

30 Jan 12 at 1:26 pm
Email that I’m toying with sending.

To: Tony Jones

Hi Tony:

Tony Hodges would be a another great panel suggestion for the show… along the lines of that shady and dishonest APS figure you had on that was feeding questions to the Greens. It would add a certain level of integrity to the panel and give the show an attitude not seen before on Australian TV.

In fact you should set up an panel of former ALP staffers fired for cause.

Regards

JC

30 Jan 12 at 1:30 pm
Looks like Topher made it. As of now the donations have kicked in at $26K.

http://www.pozible.com/index.php/archive/index/4352/description/0/0

Alex Pundit

30 Jan 12 at 1:30 pm
Wonder what ideas bubbled up from Gillard’s butcher’s paper n textas “brainstorming” session on Sunday.

Or was it cancelled due to lack of interest.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 1:32 pm
The Republicans have no Reagan. Ya think?

IMO the Republicans’ A Team came to a considered conclusion that the American electorate will not throw out their first black President after only one term. After all that would completely undo the “get out of racist jail” his election afforded them in the first place.

They are waiting for 2016. At least we have only one year to wait until the nightmare ends.

Viva

30 Jan 12 at 1:33 pm
From Bolt’s site.

Even the Greens, belatedly, sound a little miffed with Gillard’s office for exploiting racial divisions for political advantage:

Greens’ Deputy Leader Christine Milne today backed the opposition’s call for a police investigation.

“Mr Hodges’ actions were totally and absolutely inappropriate,” she said.

“He’s a staffer who was trying to ramp up a political response to Mr Abbott to try and benefit the government and that was absolutely a bad judgment, as the Prime Minister has said.”

Even the Greens? Is Bolt kidding? This is the political party making a mockery of the parliamentary process by having questions fed to it by a public servant.

And Tubby Milne is calling Hodges actions inappropriate? What a shameless lunatic.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 1:36 pm
The only possible reason Tubby Milne is miffed is because the fuckers got caught out. That’s all.

I wouldn’t bet any money against .. that there were Greens staffers in the mob which attacked the cafe.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 1:38 pm
In fact you should set up an panel of former ALP staffers fired for cause.

If you are talking about integrity, Tony Jones must make sure Stephen Mayne is included in that panel, Mayne would raise the tone and also be there to make a stand for whistle blowers.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 1:41 pm
It’s great being a woman these days:

Ms Gould has not faced charges for allegedly making a false statement to police.

She should be jailed.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 1:41 pm
That’s fucked up, C.L.

.

30 Jan 12 at 1:45 pm
Someone could have killed in the riot if it got more out of hand.

Perhaps the Greens and Andrew Wilkie are pondering that and are quite genuinely concerned.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 1:47 pm
Or perhaps candy, perhaps:

1. Wilkie is making sure pay back is a bitch.

2. The Greens are distancing themselves from the clusterfuck because the morons got caught in the act.

I certainly wouldn’t be reading integrity into it. That’s for sure.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 1:51 pm
Santorum’s little girl hospitalised, campaign suspended.

I will give this to Santorum: courage.

He said he knew it would be difficult to run for president with such a sick child but he felt the country was at a crossroads and he was duty-bound to try.

Compare and contrast to the cop-out brigade of Ryan, Christie, Rubio, Daniels, Bush et alia.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 1:53 pm
Perhaps the Greens and Andrew Wilkie are pondering that and are quite genuinely concerned.

Yes, because both are the models of virtue in our modern democracy.

Sounds like Wilkie has found some leverage and Greenslimes being Greenslimes do as well.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 2:00 pm
Julia Gillard’s government is a soap opera, say Rudd supporters .

The Young and the Feckless?

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 2:00 pm
When push comes to shove, Wilkie will buckle. He’s all talk and contrary action.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 2:01 pm
Compare and contrast to the cop-out brigade of Ryan, Christie, Rubio, Daniels, Bush et alia.

Don’t forget the cop out brigade of Republican and libertarian voters who have decided to stay away from the polls.

Viva

30 Jan 12 at 2:05 pm
Bird offers some advice to Gingerella

Our Prime Minister is probably a Cinderella of the heart. She may find the love of her life (who surely isn’t the hairdresser) if only she is willing to go back and try on that other shoe for size.

jtfsoon

30 Jan 12 at 2:10 pm
Rather incredible that the Rudd issue is so open amongst Rudd supporters, who Rudd is obviously not calling off.

I cannot see that any good can come of a return to Rudd. I am flabbergasted that someone otherwise pretty sharp like John Quiggin would be sympathetic to his return.

Also stupidly vindictive of Wilkie to be muttering about maybe supporting a vote of no confidence in Labor. Does he want a Coalition government which will do nothing at all re pokies?

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 2:10 pm
And inb4 anyone says im a hippy, im just a realist. You need to think abiit who wants ypu to get along and who doesnt people

Homer?

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 2:12 pm
Steve:

Have you done the breakfast dishes and vacuumed the house. Don’t let your wife come home from a hard day’s work and see those daily chores unfinished. There will be hell to pay.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 2:12 pm
well Mr Abbott has integrity and it’s best to look for it in the others too Mr Wilkie and the Greens, don’t know about the other independents they seem very attached to Ms Gillad peculiarly so.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 2:12 pm
Anyway, Rudd supporters are being hypocrites in the extreme. It was the dysfunctional way Rudd let his office be run – with wet behind the ears staffers preventing reasonable access to their boss being a large part of the reason he was dumped.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 2:13 pm
Steve.

Get the vac out and attend to those dishes.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 2:16 pm
Well, Steve has a point.

I can’t see how the team that gave us the fake Dawn Service, the Afghanistan hairdryer blow-up and the RAAF chicken dinner explosion has the brass neck to see the Gillard race riot as an opportunity for flattering contrasts.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 2:16 pm
Something to cheer you up, Stevie:

Julia Gillard puts Labor back into election-winning position, first poll finds

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 2:17 pm
CL, Gab

Please stop talking to Steve. He needs to get his chores done, otherwise he’s in serious trouble and his computer could be taken away for a week as punishment.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 2:19 pm
Also stupidly vindictive of Wilkie to be muttering about maybe supporting a vote of no confidence in Labor. Does he want a Coalition government which will do nothing at all re pokies?

Yes, I can see Wilkie backing the vote, he’s desperate to get back to his successful career of selling rugs.

As night fellows day when the time comes, as Gab says, Wilkie will cave to Gillard.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 2:20 pm
Very funny, Gab.

Today’s Galaxy poll didn’t show any drop as a result of the weekend stuff about who caused the Lobby incident. In fact, 4% better than in October in TPP, which is not bad. Another 4% in 3 months time and its back to equal.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 2:24 pm
I can’t talk to you until you finish those chores, Stevie, my tribal elder has spoken.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 2:27 pm
Hodges was one of Rudd’s staffers, no doubt he learnt a few tricks from his former boss. It would be a bad result if Gillard got the blame for what happened and Labor escaped – they are as much responsible for what happened, what with their constant rabid attempts to slime Abbott with whatever they can get their hands on – even the most tamest remark.

Though if Gillard survives this then she’s a freakin’ hydra – cauterize the stumps when you cut the heads of Tony, cauterize the stumps!

Andreas

30 Jan 12 at 2:28 pm
They can’t help themselves, it’s pathological:

It has been very damaging to our country, but the fact is Mr Abbott, as is usual, is seeking to divide the country over the issue, seeking to take political advantage of it by turning it into another smear campaign against the Prime Minister and that’s entirely typical of Tony Abbott,” he told ABC radio.

Guess who that is.

Andreas

30 Jan 12 at 2:36 pm
Interesting NYT story on the reticence of Jeb Bush to endorse Romney.

Former President George Bush has endorsed Mr. Romney. Former President George W. Bush has told friends he is following the race but has no plans to become involved. All three Bushes were at the Alfalfa Club dinner in Washington on Saturday night, when Mr. Obama joked that many people hoped Jeb Bush would run for president.

“I am not one of them,” Mr. Obama declared at the private dinner, one attendee said.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 3:01 pm
Today in Islam:

A jury has found an Afghan father, his wife and their son guilty of killing three teenage sisters and another wife in what the judge described as “cold-blooded, shameful murders” resulting from a “twisted concept of honour” in a case that shocked and riveted Canadians.

The Shafia family moved to Canada in 2007, after living in Australia, Pakistan and Dubai over the previous 15 years.

Canadian prosecutors said the defendants allegedly killed the three teenage sisters because they dishonoured the family by defying its disciplinarian rules on dress, dating, socialising and using the internet…

The prosecution presented wire taps and mobile phone records from the Shafia family in court to support their honour killing allegation.

The wiretaps, which capture Shafia spewing vitriol about his dead daughters, calling them treacherous and whores and invoking the devil to defecate on their graves, were a focal point of the trial.

“There can be no betrayal, no treachery, no violation more than this,” Shafia said on one recording. “Even if they hoist me up onto the gallows … nothing is more dear to me than my honour.”

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8410647

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 3:29 pm
Hey CL, notice that Newt has called for a character debate. Hot Air notes this is hardly Gingrich’s strong point:

As the Rasmussen polls showed the last couple of weeks, Gingrich scores very low on the character questions even among the Republican base. Even in a poll where Gingrich led nationally, he came in dead last in the current roster of four contenders for the Republican nomination on character — even below “Not Sure.” His evasive answers on his work for Freddie Mac, insisting to this day that he earned $1.6 million as a historian, don’t lend themselves to bolstering his standing on honesty and character, either, even apart from the massive issues in his personal life.

Sorry, you and swinging voter (as it were) JC are going to have to get used to Romney as the candidate.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 3:31 pm
Glad to see you’ve moved on from Herman Cain, Steve.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 3:33 pm
Interesting NYT story on the reticence of Jeb Bush to endorse Romney.

Perhaps Jeb Bush is a dog lover.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 3:34 pm
Kerry O’Brien banned for speeding

O’Brien was caught speeding more than 30km/h over the limit in Sydney’s south east.

A speed camera detected the offence at the intersection of O’Riordan Street and Coward Street in Mascot in August

twostix

30 Jan 12 at 3:35 pm
Today’s Galaxy poll didn’t show any drop as a result of the weekend stuff about who caused the Lobby incident. In fact, 4% better…

Blah, blah, blah – thanks for the expert analysis Steve.

You’ll be pleased to hear that Essential Media poll is out and all the scenarioes you postulated over last week were wrong.

54/46 again.

Interesting, when surveyed about best PM of all time, Rudd came close to knocking off Hawke by Labor voters. Morons.

Is there any wonder who Lib voters think is the best (Fraser just beat informal, so we know his family got a vote).

Token

30 Jan 12 at 3:41 pm
Can’t wait for the Presidential debates if Mitt is the candidate. “Well thanks for clearly up the question of your sacred underwear Mr Romney. Now, can you give a categorical assurance that the First Dog will not be tied to the roof of the presidential limousine during your term in office.”. This Republican race is pure comedy gold. You could not make up stuff like this.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 3:42 pm
PS: Greens voters thought Rudd was the best Australian PM ever.

Better than Whitlam and that other luvvie Living Treasure Keating.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 3:43 pm
Sorry to sadden you, Steve, but I don’t support Newt Gingrich any more than I support Mitt the Reagan-hating socialist.

Either would be better than Obama, though.

Anthony Albanese would be better than Obama.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 3:43 pm
This Republican race is pure comedy gold. You could not make up stuff like this.

It’s not as funny as attending a black racist fundamentalist church for 20 years.

.

30 Jan 12 at 3:44 pm
This Republican race is pure comedy gold. You could not make up stuff like this.

LOL.

2008:

Democrat contenders are Barack Obama (wackiest religious background in US presidential history).

Joe Biden – who said President Roosevelt addressed the US public on television in 1929.

Denis Kucinich – sued a restaurant for peanut trauma.

Hillary Clinton – claimed she survived a trip to Bosnia under heavy machine-gun fire.

John Edwards – cheating on his cancer-stricken wife, he fathered a baby and ordered his chief-of-staff to steal one of its diapers so its poo could be DNA-tested. He has now been indicted for theft.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 3:48 pm
OK, CL; maybe it’s just that you dislike Romney more than Gingrich, while officially supporting neither? You certainly spend a lot more time bucketing the former, and going on exercises like an ex wife attack for the latter.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 4:03 pm
You’ll be pleased to hear that Essential Media poll is out and all the scenarioes you postulated over last week were wrong.

And what scenarios were they, Token? Did I predict a turnaround for Labor in the space of a week?

You are becoming as inaccurate in recounting my positions as CL, I think.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 4:05 pm
Bunyip’s been beavering away again on various issues. Worth a look.

http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 4:06 pm
I was the first one to sound a sceptical note on Gungrich when Kates posted a pro-Newt post last year, Steve.

And if you follow carefully, you’ll note that I rarely analyse or laboriously critique Romney.

So you’re again being a dishonest troll.

But saying that is like saying ‘Gillard lies’ or ‘a bear shits in the wood.’

It’s an accepted given.

I still find it interesting that you have nothing to say about Obama’s hatred of Catholicism and the denunciations of his war on the Church from the entire US hierarchy and the pope himself.

You know, being that you’re a ‘conservative Catholic’ ‘n that.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 4:13 pm
Steve

Have you cleaned the loos?

Jc

30 Jan 12 at 4:21 pm
Well, CL has turned all nasty again.

And obviously overlooking I did comment on the Obama “hatred of Catholicism” and said I thought the American bishops and Pope were going a bit over the top on this, but I could see how Obama could have done better. There is a matter of how the Church is allowed to treat its non-Catholic workers, and to be honest, the American system of health insurance seems so complicated I don’t know if the Church has other options it is declining to take.

However, the fact remains, I strongly suspect most American (or probably, international) Catholics are not going to have a problem with any of it, as they do not believe their Church is right on contraception.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 4:27 pm
I’m not being nasty, Steve.

I was just pointing out that you’re dishonest and a troll.

This is not exactly a newsflash.

You’re humiliated by the Gillard Race Riot and sundry other epochal fiascos committed by your beloved Federal government so you’re pretending to care about US politics.

And thanks for confirming that you’re a ‘conservative Catholic’ who sides with Catholic-hating Obama against the US hierarchy, the pope and even the Washington Post.

We also know that most sinful Catholics don’t let Church injunctions stop them from masturbating or littering, Steve. But we don’t, on that account, expect Church institutions to pay for vibes and subscriptions to Playboy. You must stop presenting dumb arguments dressed to appear as theologically profound. Just because Peter Kennedy said it, doesn’t mean it’s true.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 4:37 pm
I’m not being nasty, Steve.

I was just pointing out that you’re dishonest and a troll.

This is not exactly a newsflash.

You’re humiliated by the Gillard Race Riot and sundry other epochal fiascos committed by your beloved Federal government so you’re pretending to care about US politics.

And thanks for confirming that you’re a ‘conservative Catholic’ who sides with Catholic-hating Obama against the US hierarchy, the pope and even the Washington Post.

We also know that most sinful Catholics don’t let Church injunctions stop them from mast–bating or littering, Steve. But we don’t, on that account, expect Church institutions to pay for vibes and subscriptions to Playboy. You must stop presenting dumb arguments dressed to appear as theologically profound. Just because Peter Kennedy said it, doesn’t mean it’s true.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 4:39 pm
Christine Milne is mad as a hatter…

I’ve paid the Greens too much credit. Once again, it’s power above principle as Chrstine Milne exhibits all the double standards and hypocrisy of her movement. On Sky News she has said accused the Coalition of “monstrous political opportunism” for daring to protest against Labor’s monstrous political opportunism in inciting a race riot to discredit Tony Abbott.

Oh, and Tony Abbott is accused of not understanding Aboriginal disadvantage and of using inflammatory language with his comments on the tent embassy.

Token

30 Jan 12 at 4:39 pm
At The Drum, Bruce Haigh chucks a spaz, says Abbott the Catholic and friend of “bedecked, bejewelled and compassionless” George Pell cannot be Prime Minister.

In a discussion of ‘asylum seekers’ (rich illegal immigrants), doesn’t mention Rudd/Gillard death toll.

Doesn’t care.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3800048.html

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 4:46 pm
You must stop presenting dumb arguments dressed to appear as theologically profound.

Funny, that is exactly what committed married Catholics who wanted to stop having children after, say, number 6 thought about the Church teaching that using the Pill to achieve this was going to make them part of the “death culture”.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 4:47 pm
Christine Milne is mad as a hatter…

hahahaha the intellectual lioness of the senate.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 4:50 pm
Steve… the loos please, or you’re in big trouble.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 4:52 pm
Steve, can you provide me a link to a “Church teaching” in which parents of six who use the pill become part of the “death culture”?

Go!

It’s interesting how much time you spend trashing the Church. I mean, given that you’re a ‘conservative Catholic’ fond of misquoting popes.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 4:53 pm
It’s good to be in with Labor. Why pesky troubles just vanish into thin air. Poof!

Independent MP Peter Slipper cleared over expenses

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 5:01 pm
A lot is being made of Drudge’s bias towards Romney and against Gingrich, and he makes it pretty bloody difficult to conclude otherwise. He’s currently leading with the following links:

GALLUPUSATODAY POLL OF SWING STATES:

Obama 47% Romney 48%
Obama 50% Paul 43%
Obama 51% Santorum 44%
Obama 54% Gingrich 40%

Then right underneath that provides a link to the following article, titled:

Gingrich stakes campaign on electability…

A rather unseemly Drudge juxtaposition, I’d say. It’s pretty hard to conclude his slip isn’t showing for Romney. And I say that as a (reluctant) Romney supporter (I think).

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 5:05 pm
Independent MP Peter Slipper cleared over expenses

-from Gab.

Gawdalmighty. Can this pack of thieving spivs masquerading as a government sink to any lower levels?

Election now.

Pedro the Ignorant

30 Jan 12 at 5:09 pm
wonder what Kevin Rudd says about Mr Abbott and the smears, if he says anything nasty like Mr Swan and Ms Milne are doing I’ll never like him again ever.
But i guess he’s clever enough to keep out of it.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 5:13 pm
Repugnant Rhiannon responds to Christian Kerr’s accusation about Repugnant association with the Soviets and she lies and distorts.

She claims that she was never a spy for the Soviet Union. Kerr never once claimed she was a spy and in fact went into detail why the Sovs left the slimeball out of the spy loop, seeing they had better things planned for her… such perhaps, writing and editing propaganda magazines for them.

Now this is a clincher.

In 2009 when the National Archives sent me my ASIO file I learnt that Peter Balfour, the ASIO director-general in 1970, had written to British authorities about my visit. But some details were blacked out.

They sent Rhiannon the file because the commie filth asked for it. And she asked for why exactly? It’s not as though any normal person would think to ask for their ASIO file. There wouldn’t be one. Not only is she an unrepentant communist retard she’s also as thick as granite.

http://lee-rhiannon.greensmps.org.au/content/news-story/kerrs-inept-spies-revive-asios-cold-war-delusions

No denial about her commie sympathies and those of her disgusting Stalinist parents.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 5:14 pm
It’s not as funny as attending a black racist fundamentalist church for 20 years.

That is soooo 2008. That silly meme didn’t matter then, it’s hardly likely to matter in 2012. As for the allegedly sub-standard ’08 Democrat contenders, well, one of them was good enough to win. And another ended up being a successful Secretary of State. The GOP ’08 team? Republicans can barely uttered McCain’s name without spluttering with rage and Palin has become a national punchline to an endless series of very funny jokes. Still, I can understand why conservatives here want to talk about 2008. Even though they got thrashed nad bashed by Obama, it looks like “the good old days” when you are caught in the middle of the 2012 Republican primary season.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 5:20 pm
It’s not as though any normal person would think to ask for their ASIO file.

Thousands have done exactly that. Anyone and everyone active in progressive politics knew ASIO had a file on them as a matter of course. Something of a badge of honour, like having a Special Branch file in the Joh days.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 5:22 pm
That silly meme didn’t matter then, it’s hardly likely to matter in 2012

Yes, it does. He’s a nutter.

.

30 Jan 12 at 5:27 pm
Thousands have done exactly that. Anyone and everyone active in progressive politics knew ASIO had a file on them as a matter of course. Something of a badge of honour, like having a Special Branch file in the Joh days.

Metro,
You means a few thousand commies did. I’m shocked.

You really are filth sticking up for an entire family that cheered for Stalin. You’re no different to a Nazi sympathizer with the only difference that the Nazis didn’t kill as many people. Skunks have better odor that you metro.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 5:28 pm
Strike three and yerout!

Earlier this week, Stimulus beneficiary Evergreen Energy bit the dust. Then, Ener1, a manufacturer of batteries for electric vehicles and recipient of Stimulus largesse, filed for bankruptcy. And today, the Las Vegas Sun reports that Amonix, Inc., a manufacturer of solar panels that received $5.9 million from the Porkulus, will cut two-thirds of its workforce, about 200 employees, only seven months after opening a factory in Nevada.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/29/another-obama-greendoggle-bites-the-dust/

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 5:30 pm
Yes, it does. He’s a nutter.

The American voters didn’t think so in ’08. Polls and betting markets suggests it’s not going to matter in ’12. Which rather leaves people obsessing about it from a great distance looking like, what was your term? Oh, yeah, a nutter.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 5:31 pm
These scum weren’t just ordinary commies, as you know Metro. The broke off from the regular commies when they found out about Stalins atrocities and refused to back.

Riahnnon’s pond scum went with the Stalinists knowing full well the killing fields were filling in in the old sov according the Kerr and Henderson.

These are the sorts of scum you’re excusing, you filthy degenerate metro.

Seriously, you’re no better than a Nazi.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 5:32 pm
From now on it will Metro, the filthy Stalinist carbon slave.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 5:34 pm
You are an idiot, 1080. It isn’t relevant insofar as it wasn’t and probably won’t be an election issue, even though perhaps it should have been. What it does do is illustrate that Obama is – or was for a substantial part of his life right up to just before he entered the Oval Office – pretty damn far off the reservation from a religious perspective. Kooky as hell. This was the point CL was making.

As for 2008, THANK CHRIST McCain didn’t win. Another RINO victory would’ve made matters much, much worse for the conservative movement. This presidency is a poisoned chalice, made worse by Obama’s historic incompetence.

Regarding the current GOP primary, it’s a bit messy and nasty now and the gloves are off; hrm, that sounds familiar, doesn’t it? Rather like the Democrat primary in 2008 – and their nominee went on to win the Presidency, as you correctly recalled. However, in a few months, Romney will probably be the nominee, and all this internecine unpleasantness will quickly fade as a significant majority of Americans coalesce to rid themselves of the historically incompetent President I mentioned above.

As for Palin, she’s a national punchline – but only for people like you. That is, the not especially bright. I imagine she could fairly easily live with that knowledge.

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 5:41 pm
Steve, can you provide me a link to a “Church teaching” in which parents of six who use the pill become part of the “death culture”?

Depends what you mean by “church teaching”. “Church rhetoric” might have been a safer way of putting it. In any event, a prominent bishop critical of Obama has been quoted in a lecture last week:

During his lecture, Archbishop Dolan criticized people who postponed conception with “chemicals and latex,” calling them part of the “culture of death.”

The current and last Pope used the term too, in a broader context, but also encompassing contraception.

As I said, this rhetoric may just strike a Catholic couple who had had their fair share of kids as a little bit silly.

steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 5:47 pm
Anyone and everyone active in progressive politics knew ASIO had a file on them as a matter of course.

Er, Flea wasn’t involved in “progressive politics”. She was a Communist. Hullo?

Peter Patton

30 Jan 12 at 5:47 pm
She was a Communist. Hullo?

To be absolutely precise the family were on the Stalin wing of the communist party and were thrown out or left to form the Stalinist splinter group.

That’s like the SS of the Nazi movement.

It ought to make every single Green voter rush for the bucket and vomit.. thrice.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 5:51 pm
This presidency is a poisoned chalice, made worse by Obama’s historic incompetence.

Historic if you measure history has having started in 2008 you mean. Since then he’s ended the Iraq war that Bush should never have started; looks like winning the Afghan war that Bush mismanaged, especially by focusing on Iraq instead; whacked Osama bin Laden who Bush said he “didn’t think about much anymore”; has begun turning around the US economy that tanked worse than since the Great Depression after Bush; has introduced a health care scheme the Dems have been hoping for since forever; ended the stupid DADT policy …. and so on.

And if its such a poison chalice, how come Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, Pery, Cain, Bachmann Trump, Huntsman and other such political luminaries have tried/are trying to hard to win it? Some poison chalice – most powerful person in the world. Yeah, right, the Republicans don’t want that job. The “poison chalice” (I didn’t want it any way) excuse is only ever trotted out by losers who know they don’t stand a chance.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 5:51 pm
You really are disgusting filth for supporting her Metro. Stalinist supporting filth.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 5:53 pm
Okay I admit I don’t bother reading what you write, 1o8o, only the first sentence or so, and that bit of nonsense you scribbled at 5.51pm really ought to start with “Once upon a time, “. Perhaps all your comments should start that way.

Just a suggestion…

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 5:57 pm
Who is metro supporting? And who is metro not supporting? And who is metro? And why does it matter? And how could Lee Rhianon have been a Stalinist since she was a two years old when old Joe died and Stalinism with him? Did she join the kindagarten wing of the party? Oh, her parents were Stalinists sixty-seventy years ago. Yeah, I can see why that would be relevant. But tell me, why is any of this relevant given that we are talking about someone who has been elected to the Senate by the good people of this here fair land a couple of years ago?

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:00 pm
As for your first paragraph, that’s an impressive amount of dissembling spin in one comment, 1080. I can see how you got the Walkley.

And the second; I said the 2008 Presidency was a poisoned chalice, particularly so for a RINO – not the office in general. If McCain had’ve won, the conservative movement in the States would have been on the mat for a decade. But Obama won, went into spending supernova (and you know what comes after the supernova, right?) to the horror of most Americans. And instead the conservative movement’s highly energised, whilst its opponents are suffering from the worst case of buyer’s remorse in history. And now the major quibble between the likely victors in 2012 is whether to cut the size of the federal government massively, or just hugely. This never would have happened if McCain had’ve won in 2008. I for one was glad he lost.

But yeah, you keep tuning into Journolist so you can tell it like it is.

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 6:04 pm
If McCain had’ve won, the conservative movement in the States would have been on the mat for a decade.

You think they are not on the mat? You checked out their presidential contenders lately. The party is cracking up around ‘em. The once mighty GOP has literally been driven mad by Obama Derangement Syndrome which led it straight into the arms of the Tea Party. The rest is the history now unfolding. Best entertainment in town.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:09 pm
We know who you are Sando, so stop the bullshit with me, you boofheaded Stalinist supporting scumbag. Don’t try that bullshit with me.

Her parents broke away from the CPA and formed their own party after the CPA refused to support Stalin and they were unfailing supporters of that brand of communism.

That’s who you’re trumpeting for, Metro. She still remains unrepentant and in fact said in a TV interview she is proud of her past. Her father was taking money and orders from the sovs in terms of the propaganda he’d peddle.

That’s the filth you fighting for, you Stalinist fat headed creep.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 6:10 pm
Is JC well? Does he always foam from the mouth like this? Does any of that mean anything? To anyone? Anywhere?

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:12 pm
But tell me, why is any of this relevant given that we are talking about someone who has been elected to the Senate by the good people of this here fair land a couple of years ago?

It’s relevant for a number of reasons. We only found about about her past and the style of communism she and her family supported after her election, as she kept her past hidden.

We now know and the ALP is still in alliance with that slime. That’s why.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 6:12 pm
Is JC well? Does he always foam from the mouth like this? Does any of that mean anything? To anyone? Anywhere?

Go and polish you fake Walkley, Sando, you Stalinist supporting scum bag.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 6:13 pm
We only found about about her past and the style of communism she and her family supported after her election

You really should read Hendo more often. Some secret. Go check out the archives leading up to the last Fed election.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:14 pm
You really should read Hendo more often. Some secret. Go check out the archives leading up to the last Fed election.

That’s when most people heard about it in terms of what that family actually advocated and why they broke away from the CPA.

Fuck me even the CPA was disgusted with that scum and wouldn’t have a bar of them.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 6:16 pm
This metro/sando person sure seems to own JC’s head. And I have to say, he is welcome to it!

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:16 pm
You think they are not on the mat? You checked out their presidential contenders lately. The party is cracking up around ‘em. The once mighty GOP has literally been driven mad by Obama Derangement Syndrome which led it straight into the arms of the Tea Party. The rest is the history now unfolding. Best entertainment in town.

Here’s another one we need to keep so we can dust it off for shits and giggles during Romney’s acceptance speech.

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 6:16 pm
That’s when most people heard about it in terms of what that family actually advocated

Slight correction – what her parents advocated. Allegedly. And that was in the public domain before the good people of this fair land voted Ms Rhiannon into the Senate. Just like I said.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:18 pm
This metro/sando person sure seems to own JC’s head. And I have to say, he is welcome to it!

Lol… you’ve been banned a number of times Sando and you keep showing up under another flag. I’m betting you’ll be gone by the end of the week. Banned again.

Meanwhile keep supporting Rhiannon and her brand of communism.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 6:18 pm
Obviously there is still plenty of red under JC’s bed.

rog

30 Jan 12 at 6:20 pm
Poor 1080 is so ignorant of the primary election process in the USA that he thinks a party can’t stand some verbal fisticuffs at the tail end of the race.

Furthermore, if he didn’t solely surround himself with people who, in response to their party’s political misfortunes, exclaim “how on earth did they win? No one I know voted for them!!”, he would realise this election is the GOP’s to lose.

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 6:20 pm
That’s right JC, ban them in the name of freedom!

rog

30 Jan 12 at 6:21 pm
Rog told a funny!!1!

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 6:22 pm
sando, commnists, Stalin, commnists metro, commnists, Rhiannon, commnists … the mind of the obsessed is a wonder to behold. What’s it liked to be someone’s mental slave JC? Looks unpleasant from the outside.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:22 pm
Obviously there is still plenty of red under JC’s bed

The red’s a in JC’s head. Along with metro and sando. It’s getting pretty crowded up there. Let’s face it, there wasn’t a lot of room to start with. It’s totally crowded out the thinking process. Poor dear.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 6:24 pm
Hi wodger.

Happy new year.

Tell me , is there any chance you could post those really intellectual comments here at cat instead of the Trop as some people here end up missing them? They’re really good for a laugh.

Wodge discussing Australia day

rog said:
Stupid and disruptive – its another long weekend to many.

I’m even starting to doubt you got past 8th grade, widget. Seriously.

Jc

30 Jan 12 at 6:26 pm
Metro

Your best bet to start talking about George Bush.

You know you want to.

Lol.

grow a set and stop the pretense you’re not my carbon slave, you whacko.

Jc

30 Jan 12 at 6:29 pm
It’s good to be in with Labor. Why pesky troubles just vanish into thin air. Poof!

Gab, Gab.

He was thoroughly investigated by Penny Wong’s department.

You’re not suggesting the result would have been different if he was a Liberal backbencher?

Surely not.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 6:32 pm
Too late. He’s already sung liberally from the Obama hymnbook about how all Obama’s boobery is actually Bush’s fault….

Oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 6:32 pm
You means a few thousand commies did. I’m shocked.

You really are filth sticking up for an entire family that cheered for Stalin. You’re no different to a Nazi sympathizer with the only difference that the Nazis didn’t kill as many people. Skunks have better odor that you metro.

Uh, JC, so you are saying than anyone who asks the security services if they have a file on them must be suspicious?

Not a very libertarian point of view, methinks.

Les Majesty

30 Jan 12 at 6:55 pm
Historic if you measure history has having started in 2008 you mean.

No, historic in the sense that Barack Hussein Obama is the worst president in American history.

He lost the Afghanistan War, was wrong about the now won Iraq War, wrecked the economy, created the biggest deficits probably in world history, presided over the most disastrous ‘stimulus’ on record, presides over the worst food stamp culture ever, was bashed with a baseball bat in the midterms (the worst result since the 1930s), endorsed the most violent, failed protest movement in recent decades, created a gun-running initiative with Mexican narco-terrorists that has led to the murder of hundreds of people, bungled the KSM ‘trial,’ bungled Egypt, bungled Yemen, bungled Israel (a country he hates), capitulated and admitted Bush was right on Gitmo, military tribunals, targeted assasination, rendition and drone usage, ordered the killing of Democrat-ignored Al Qaeda recluse, Osama bin Laden, after his whereabouts were established using intelligence gleaned from waterboarding and Gitmo.

Quite simply the worst president ever.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 6:57 pm
Also, your argument kind of jumps the shark when you call someone not just equal to, but actually worse than, Hitler.

Wayne seems a decent enough bloke and he seems reasonably chilled out, such that I can’t imagine him actually putting people in camps.

Even old Lee, I would guess, is more dopey than actively malicious.

Les Majesty

30 Jan 12 at 6:57 pm
Uh, JC, so you are saying than anyone who asks the security services if they have a file on them must be suspicious?

Not a very libertarian point of view, methinks.

Suspicious? In terms of what? I think you’re on another wave length.

My comment was suggesting that it was amusing she asked for her ASIO file. Have you ever thought to ask them about yours Les? I haven’t, as the idea would have never come into my head.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 7:02 pm
JC, ASIO has / had files on huge numbers of people, the vast, overwhelming majority of whom were peaceful, law abiding citizens.

I don’t see how asking the government if it has a file on you amounts to a black mark.

Supporting Stalin – that’s something to be eternally ashamed of.

Asking ASIO for a copy of its files – not so much.

Les Majesty

30 Jan 12 at 7:09 pm
JC, you do realise don’t you that ASIO is a collection of public servants who, as public servants are wont to do, often run around looking for reasons to justify their own existence?

I think ASIO is essential, but they get / got plenty of shit wrong, and just because ASIO has / had a file on you doesn’t mean you are a bad actor.

It’s weird to hear someone on a libertarian website arguing that asking the government to show what information they have collected on you amounts to suspicious activity.

Les Majesty

30 Jan 12 at 7:11 pm
This is a seriously tedious argument.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 7:12 pm
Also, your argument kind of jumps the shark when you call someone not just equal to, but actually worse than, Hitler.

Fair enough, then let’s equate an unrepentant Stalinist as equal to a nazi then… the SS wing. No problems with that.

Wayne seems a decent enough bloke and he seems reasonably chilled out, such that I can’t imagine him actually putting people in camps.

Dunno, Wayne seems awfully hot for Rhiannon and it’s second time in the last few days that he’s come out of the closet as her champion

Even old Lee, I would guess, is more dopey than actively malicious.

Really? You think. If 50% of Kerr and Henderson’s stuff is true then it wouldn’t be her dopiness I’d be worried about. Her actions weren’t those of a feather headed uni student advocating communism because it was fashionable. She was fucking hard core and still maintains she’s proud of her past.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 7:13 pm
Yup, just like the US Tea party, eh?

US ‘Occupy’ knob jockeys use IEDs against Police.

Mk50 of Brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 7:14 pm
I think ASIO is essential, but they get / got plenty of shit wrong, and just because ASIO has / had a file on you doesn’t mean you are a bad actor.

Perhaps not. True.

It’s weird to hear someone on a libertarian website arguing that asking the government to show what information they have collected on you amounts to suspicious activity.

Again you use the term suspicious to mis-characterize what I was suggesting.

Firstly let me say again that for 99% of the population it wouldn’t even enter their head to ask for “their” ASIO file ans there wouldn’t be one and wouldn’t think there was. Wouldn’t dream of it.

The comment (mine) related to the fact that I found it amusing she asked for hers, while throughout her missive in response to Kerr’s allegations, she was attempting to come across as little miss innocent. In other wards with her disgusting background it wouldn’t surprise me she had a file and didn’t surprise there was one. Henderson suggested both Repugnant and her parents were on the KGB payroll.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 7:19 pm
“has introduced a health care scheme the Dems have been hoping for since forever”

This comment from 1080 (Metro?) says it all. Obama introduced a policy that only a political party wanted. He’s correct. But I don’t see how that is a victory. Obamacare is not popular at all with the American electorate at large. Polls taken before Obamacare was enacted showed something like 54% of Americans saying that they were happy with their current coverage. A poll taken this week by Rasmussen shows that 52% are in favour of repeal.

Alex Pundit

30 Jan 12 at 7:32 pm
….has introduced a health care scheme the Dems have been hoping for since forever”

Yes, Alex, it’s metro’s (Wayne) argument is really dishonest. However I don’t even think the dope realizes it as he most likely just lifted it out of some leftwing rag and is sprinting with the baton.

The number of insured in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts was 96%. Romney objective was to get 100% covered and ended up with 98% coverage.

Odumbo was trying to insure 25% of the population and peddle the lie that it would be cheaper by falsely accounting for cost savings and other fraudulent crap.

So Romney’s plan was pretty meagre. It was wrong of course, as the dolt would never have got involved with Ted (I left her in a ditch) Kennedy seeing it was always bound to bite him on the arse.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 7:42 pm
I think that I will do a reverse JC

Hi wodger.

Happy new year.

Insincere and without meaning, typical JC

Tell me , is there any chance you could post those really intellectual comments here at cat instead of the Trop as some people here end up missing them? They’re really good for a laugh.

No

Wodge discussing Australia day

rog said:
Stupid and disruptive – its another long weekend to many.

What is your point, do you have an argument and more importantly do you have any evidence? (Sorry for the obvious rhetoric; from the evidence you are all argument and zero evidence)

I’m even starting to doubt you got past 8th grade, widget. Seriously.

What’s 8th grade, seriously? You mean year 8? Like 14 years old? You really are dislocated and any other word with dis as a prefix.

Seriously.

rog

30 Jan 12 at 8:02 pm
Brutal beatdown, rog. Absolutely brutal.

Infidel Tiger

30 Jan 12 at 8:07 pm
How about dismissive of mental midgets? If the shit fits, wear it.

oh come on

30 Jan 12 at 8:09 pm
the ~~good people~~ fuckwits of this fair land voted Ms Rhiannon into the Senate

Tiny Dancer

30 Jan 12 at 8:16 pm
Oh, the humanity!

That’s YOU flogged soundly across your left little toe with six square centimetres of limp lettuce leaf, JC!

Wodja’s being utterly brutal tonight…

Mk50 of Brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 8:29 pm
But wait, there’s more:

Another partial answer. I am informed that the Sydney ABC journalist was requested by a Canberra colleague to ask the Abbott the question about the tent embassy. So, did the Prime Minister’s office in turn ask the Canberra journalist (whom they know personally and deal with regularly) to have that question put to Abbott? (I have been requested by my informant not to reveal the identity of the Canberra journalist.)

And more information: I am informed by a source with a so-far perfect record for accuracy that Gillard overruled objections from security personnel about having the Australia Day function at that venue, so close to the tent embassy. If true, why?

Update

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 8:31 pm
Wodge:

You humiliated me. Frankly I don’t know how I can face another day. Lol

WTF was that all about, you unadulterated moron?

Look, it wasn’t just me the found that comment you left at Troppo immensely dim witted. I think even Fyodor had a crack at it.

Go away and stop embarrassing yourself.

PS. I was being sincere in wishing you all the best for the new year you idiot.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 8:34 pm
Knew it. It was a fucking set up all along. From the PM’s department including the slapper herself.

This really seem to have legs.

Another partial answer. I am informed that the Sydney ABC journalist was requested by a Canberra colleague to ask the Abbott the question about the tent embassy. So, did the Prime Minister’s office in turn ask the Canberra journalist (whom they know personally and deal with regularly) to have that question put to Abbott? (I have been requested by my informant not to reveal the identity of the Canberra journalist.)

So the ABC was in on it too. Fucking amazing if this turns out to be true.

And more information: I am informed by a source with a so-far perfect record for accuracy that Gillard overruled objections from security personnel about having the Australia Day function at that venue, so close to the tent embassy. If true, why?

Because it was a fucking set up from go to woe. The slapper was going for a twofer. Look Prime ministerial in getting Abbott out of there and fucking him over with the claim he was inciting violence.

This is good in a way, because it now gives the conservatives a chance finally to destroy the ABC and turn it into a smoldering wreck.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 8:43 pm
I keep saying that the APS needs to be gutted. Absolutely gutted.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 8:44 pm
I probably agree with Tillman about ASIO, generally.

Provided of course that we always acknowledge that Santamaria and the Movement were right about conmunist infiltration of the unions and the ALP – up to and including the office of Evatt, whom Des Ball regards as having almost certainly been a Soviet spy.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 8:45 pm
JC you are one smart cookie, first to say Ms Gillard in restaurant seemed aware of camera etc, and protestors were after Mr Abbott – well done!

candy

30 Jan 12 at 8:54 pm
lol Candy

always been my strength. I can smell a skunk from 10 miles away … even upwind.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 9:00 pm
Anyways Candy… this is Australia’s premier bullshit detector site. I’ve yet to see any bullshit get through the Cat’s bullshit detector. It’s perhaps the best in the world.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 9:02 pm
dislocated and any other word with dis as a prefix

Disdainful? Disenchanted?

…

Disneyland?

wreckage

30 Jan 12 at 9:05 pm
You know what, the more you think about it the more it looks like a leftist attempt at a takeover of the state.

They’re running a “quiry against opposition media with a view to gutting it.

They capture the public service apparatus so it works for the party.

The capture state based broadcasting and attempt to create propaganda against the political opposition.

It’s basically a Chavez like attempt to take over the state.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 9:27 pm
You know what, the more you think about it the more it looks like a leftist attempt at a takeover of the state

Yes but could they be a little less Benny Hill in manner as they go about it?

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 9:33 pm
No, not really, Gab. This is basically the tip of the tip of iceberg. They’ve basically captured the entire state apparatus.

There’s nothing they touch that hasn’t been put through the wringer and come out as part of the alliance on the other side.

There’s nothing they say that can be believed. Anything coming out of Treasury for instance is basically a lie to help the Alliance.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 9:38 pm
Think about this for a second.

If Bolt’s claim is true we have the Government broadcaster working seamlessly with the Slapper’s office in an attempt to smear the political opposition as a race baiting lunatic.

This is really fucking concerning because even though i thought the ABC was partial to the Alliance I would never thought they would dare work together like this. I thought there was still a Chinese wall.

At first site this is really fucking serious. The real giveaway was the ‘quiry which was supposed to be used as a way of demolishing the independent media.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 9:43 pm
Jesus. That Bruce Haigh has a face more equine than Bartholomew Bandy. What an air bandit the man is. To think he was once in the APS providing impartial advice. Ho ho.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 9:47 pm
Who’s Ho ho.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 9:48 pm
Ha ha.

He he.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 9:54 pm
JC none of what you say is really remarkable in relation to what the state’s media arm is capable of doing in order to protect and serve Labor. The signs have been there for quite some time now and their arrogance grows robustly on a daily basis. They think themselves the Untouchables, just like the Abo Activists and Gillard’s $200,000 “junior” staffer.

It’s only January. The “slaying of Abbott”, democracy and free speech has only just begun.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 9:54 pm
It’s cute how everyone ignores JC while he talks himself into florid paranoia.

Steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 9:58 pm
but they get / got plenty of shit wrong

Like what? Pray do tell, oh holder of the inner circle shit.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 9:59 pm
Everyone except Gab, that is, who tonight is playing the role of JC’s paranoia enabler. Do continue…

Steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 9:59 pm
Come on Tillman. Spill the beans on your scoop.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 10:02 pm
Steve:

Did you do the dishes? If not get back to work. Chop Chop Mrs. Househusband.

Do your female friends call you Mrs. Steve?

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:04 pm
Everyone except Gab, that is, who tonight is playing the role of JC’s paranoia enabler. Do continue…

Steve what have you ever been right about on this site?

I can’t think of one single thing, cause or idea that you’ve taken up that you have been within 100 miles of being correct about.

In fact you’re the canary, if you say something, the exact opposite is the reality.

At hand your rank denial and abuse towards those who suggested that the current situation was engineered by Labor, then your demured mealy-mouthed “so what” attitude upon finding out that yet again you were wrong.

You’re too old for this game old man, it’s just beyond you.

twostix

30 Jan 12 at 10:05 pm
Look, it wasn’t just me the found that comment you left at Troppo immensely dim witted. I think even Fyodor had a crack at it.

Only JC can ~~spend~~ waste huge amounts of time analysing throw away comments on trivial issues.

rog

30 Jan 12 at 10:08 pm
In fact you’re the canary, if you say something, the exact opposite is the reality.

That’s so disappointing, twostix, as I have found you one of the most erudite and reasonable of contributors here.

Steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 10:13 pm
Spies have revealed exactly what was sung at the close of the ALP gubbarmint’s knees up on Sunday.

it was not the traditional socialist refrain, not the Internationale, not Keep the Red Flag Flying, not even that old socialist favourite the Horst Wessel Leid!

Here’s the chorus:

And They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
They’re coming to take me away ho ho he he ha ha
To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time and I’ll be happy to see those nice men in their clean white coats
They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle thier thumbs and toes
They’re coming to take me away Ha Ha Ha

Mk50 of Brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 10:14 pm
Wodge

You seem embarrassed and very bitter I brought up your dim witted ridiculous pixel wasting comment and it seems I’ve really hurt your feelings.

Stiff shit, Wodge. I keep reminding you that you’re not bright enough to be posting comments anywhere and you continue to ignore my advice as though its ill intentioned. It’s not.

Let me remind you that you never finished High school and for a very good reason.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:14 pm
Very few people are up here in Brisbane approve of Ms Gillard or believe her or trust her. Ms Bligh won’t have her here,her position is dicey enough without being seen with Ms Gillard, hence photos with K. Rudd.

Well, that just us up here in Queensland, we know what’s what.

candy

30 Jan 12 at 10:16 pm
You really are a whiny little bitch Wodgie.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:16 pm
Attention Winston.

Man, here’s a good one I just got told about.

HMSO has republished the full 12 volume set of The Official History of the Ministry of Munitions (originally HMSO 1922 in a very small print run). There is not (AFAIK) a library in Australia with the actual books.

Only 300 pounds the hardback set (195 for softback if you want that option). I’m saving my dollars right now for this one! Unbelievable value, it has to be cost price.

Mk50 of Brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 10:20 pm
Steve – it’s that time again winner:

Catallaxy has the largest collection of obnoxious, immature, misogynistic, unreasonable, dishonest, disingenuous, lazy, dumb, gullible, un-insightful, self absorbed, uncharitable, childish, abusive, detached from reality, unpleasant, unscientific, selfish, tribal, repetitive, hypocritical, pedantic, tedious, psychologically unbalanced, and flat out wrong collection of commenters in all of the Australian blogosphere.

Tiny Dancer

30 Jan 12 at 10:20 pm
Tiny… His correct title is Mrs. Steve.

Just letting you know.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:22 pm
Hi malevolent Dancer. I cooked a goat tagine last night, in honour of you. Care for the recipe?

Steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 10:23 pm
Yes well I didn’t buy into JC’s theory that Gillard was involved in the Abbott’s race-baiting set-up, Steve.
I believe JC correct now after the circus maximus of betrayals, denials and retractions from the “we are us” mob over the last few days.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 10:23 pm
That’s so disappointing, twostix, as I have found you one of the most erudite and reasonable of contributors here.

Well thanks!

I’ve always found you to be the resident semi-senile grandfatherly type complete with “back in 1942 I went for a drive into town with an onion on my belt, for you see that was the fashion at the time…” type stories.

twostix

30 Jan 12 at 10:25 pm
WSJ website:

Princeton physics professor William Happer on why a large number of scientists don’t believe that carbon dioxide is causing global warming.

Video presentation: The Global Warming Hoax.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 10:32 pm
The ABC ‘reports’ on those 16 scientists who called bullshit on the ‘global warming’ panic…

Hold on to your hats for this one:

HAYDEN COOPER: As ever in this perennial dispute there’s the none too subtle barb directed at the qualifications of the opposition. This time by Tim Flannery.

TIM FLANNERY: They are not all scientists. There are some engineers, there are astronauts. It’s sort of a bit of mix actually as well as a lot of retired scientists in there so no, this sort of thing doesn’t really surprise me.

ELEANOR HALL: That is Australia’s chief climate commissioner, Tim Flannery ending that report by Hayden Cooper.

Yes, dinosaur turd authority Tim Flannery questions their climate credentials.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 10:36 pm
Princeton physics professor William Happer on why a large number of scientists don’t believe that carbon dioxide is causing global warming.

Ah yes, William Happer, one of the denialist usual suspects. Interesting the Happer, who signed the discredited Oregon Petition in 2000, used to say human activity did not cause warming now says that industrial activity will cause warming just not so much and not so quickly. Seems this denialists science is not settled.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 10:52 pm
A quick Google shows that Flannery was lying when he said astronaut Harrison Schmitt (one of the WSJ16) is not a scientist:

He received a B.S. degree in geology from the California Institute of Technology in 1957 and then spent a year for graduate studying geology at the University of Oslo in Norway. He received a Ph.D. in geology from Harvard University in 1964, based on his geological field studies in Norway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Schmitt#Early_life_and_education

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 10:53 pm
By contrast, Flannery started his academic ‘career’ with a BA in English (La Trobe).

LOL.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 10:55 pm
At this rate in another couple of years Happer will catch up with mainstream science and agree its a problem we need to act on. Better late than never Bill.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 10:55 pm
Ah, patterns in the drool from our tame Inbred Genetic Reject!

Seems this denialists science is not settled.

Or it might just be that, with new data, he has changed his mind somewhat.

A concept utterly alien to Inbred Genetic Rejects.

Mk50 of Brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 10:55 pm
Remember that list of some 600 “climate scientists” who put their signatures to further the warmening cause? Not many of the 600 had any quals in science, let alone climate science. And yet that list was touted by some as “proof” the science was settled.

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 10:56 pm
I cooked a goat tagine last night, in honour of you.

Does that mean that there are moments in your day when you aren’t fantasising about Tony’s in his speedos? I suppose that with all that vacuuming you have plenty to fantasise about.

Tiny Dancer

30 Jan 12 at 10:57 pm
I suppose that with all that vacuuming you have plenty to fantasise about.

hahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Mrs. Steve, do you wear a pretty little pink apron?

JC

30 Jan 12 at 10:59 pm
Come on Tillman. Spill the beans on your scoop.

Tillman asks me to say that he doesn’t quite know what you are referring to…?

Les Majesty

30 Jan 12 at 10:59 pm
Or it might just be that, with new data, he has changed his mind somewhat.

You mean the data from the field all around the world that shows the planet is warming. That data has caused the old doofus to change his mind? Probably. So Iq50, why don’t you send him your scientific paper, the one in which you “falsified AGW” and proved to you that carbon dioxide emissions are not a problem. Never know, you might win him back to the denialist cause. Worked for you. That’s you of course. It is possible that your research would not have the same effect on sane and rational minds.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 11:00 pm
By contrast, Flannery started his academic ‘career’ with a BA in English (La Trobe).

LOL.

The Yale of the South Pacific.

JC

30 Jan 12 at 11:00 pm
TIM FLANNERY: They are not all scientists. There are some engineers…

The head of the IPCC is a railway engineer.

Oops.

C.L.

30 Jan 12 at 11:02 pm
The more things change…I was browsing some ancient articles and came across this interesting read. “Candid Comment” by “Onlooker” in the Herald-Sun, Sunday 13 December 1953 edition. He/she comments on various events current at the time, including this:

“Oil Search.

Whose Oil?

Oddest comment on the oil discovery comes from a Melbourne clerygman in the “Age”:

“We Australians should remember that this oil is not ours. It is the property of the original owners of the land the aborigines.”

Oh, bunk! Does the fact that a few hundred thousand blacks once roamed this continent give their descendants title to the oil thousands of feet below its surface?

Rev. Doudney’s point is that a small percentage of oil profits be devoted to aboriginal up-lift, and there might be something in that. Though why oil particularly; what about uranium?

In America Red Indian remnants living on tribal reserves have been made wealthy by the discovery of oil. That couldn’t happen here; the reserves are not vested in the aborigines.

But what a sight-to have seen King Billy riding in a Cadillac, with his gin and picaninnies following in (say) a Holden!”

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 11:02 pm
C’mon Iq50. Show us your ground breaking research, the stuff that owns your, ah, mind. You know you want to. Gotta be someone here who wants to see it. Let’s see what you got Iq50.

1080

30 Jan 12 at 11:16 pm
Newspoll: SUPPORT for the Gillard government has failed to improve over the parliamentary break, with the Coalition maintaining its clear election-winning lead going into 2012.

Result: same-same, except for Gillard dropping 3 points as preferred PM. Ouch.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/federal-labor-stuck-in-a-rut-exclusive-newspoll-shows/story-fn59niix-1226257770100

Gab

30 Jan 12 at 11:24 pm
C’mon Iq50. Show us your ground breaking research, the stuff that owns your, ah, mind. You know you want to. Gotta be someone here who wants to see it. Let’s see what you got Iq50.

You think that “iq50″ thing is pretty clever don’t you?

Ok we’re all looking at you, very clever “iq50″ very clever good boy.

twostix

30 Jan 12 at 11:28 pm
Righto, Les. You admit you were gas bagging. Thanks for the clarification.

Abu Chowdah

30 Jan 12 at 11:45 pm
“iq50″ is approximately ten times wittier than anything you’ve ever come up with , twostix.

Re the Newspoll – wasn’t JC predicting a 2 point drop in TPP? I guess his BS detector, which continues to suffer from the defect of being unable to detect his own farts, wasn’t quite up to the task.

Steve from brisbane

30 Jan 12 at 11:56 pm
Stevie

go to bed. You have to get up early and make breakfast.

Tiny Dancer

31 Jan 12 at 12:23 am
Righto, Les. You admit you were gas bagging. Thanks for the clarification.

???

Les Majesty

31 Jan 12 at 12:24 am
Is IQ50 quaking to his marrowbones again?

Les Majesty

31 Jan 12 at 12:26 am
Well, Stevie old boy, your 2PP predictions haven’t exactly been on the money either, now, have they? I’d leave that one well alone if I were you.

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 12:26 am
but they get / got plenty of shit wrong

Like what? What do they/did they get wrong?

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Abu Chowdah

31 Jan 12 at 12:56 am
People here live in a fantasy world of their own making as to what I have said; this is clear.

Steve from Brisbane

31 Jan 12 at 12:57 am
More on Gillard’s mastery:

Julia Gillard and Labor flatlining with voters.

SUPPORT for the Gillard government is flatlining, with Labor in its weakest position on record for the start of a new parliamentary year as Julia Gillard gives ground to Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister.

How did this happen?

How did lying about poker machines, plagiarising Michael Douglas and organising an old-fashioned rootin-tootin ALP race riot end like this?

Puzzling.

C.L

31 Jan 12 at 12:57 am
More on Gillard’s mastery:

Julia Gillard and Labor flatlining with voters.

SUPPORT for the Gillard government is flatlining, with Labor in its weakest position on record for the start of a new parliamentary year as Julia Gillard gives ground to Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister.

How did this happen?

How did lying about poker machines, plagiarising Michael Douglas and organising an old-fashioned rootin-tootin ALP race riot end like this?

Puzzling.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 12:59 am
Anyway, this place is getting a tad tedious of late. Will be away from here for a while; things to do; people with better connections to reality to see.

Steve from Brisbane

31 Jan 12 at 1:01 am
Mrs Steve.

What have you made clear? All you said is that the Alliance will make back its losses and carry the day at the next election.

Here’s my response. Please ask the man of the house- your wife and breadwinner- if you’re allowed a flutter on this opinion as I would like to take the opposite side of this bet against you.

Odds please and how much?

JC

31 Jan 12 at 1:02 am
New Gillard Race Riot footage demolishes suggestions (hi, Jarrah) that it was not really threatening out there.

Yes it was.

—————————————-

No crisis watch:

Also at that link: Gillard counting numbers, fears imminent Rudd strike.

The Commonwealth is in the very best of hands.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 1:03 am
“iq50″ is approximately ten times wittier than anything you’ve ever come up with , twostix.

Buuuuurrrrn! You sure taught this young whippersnapper a lesson. “Ten times more”. That’s a lot.

Make sure you remember blurt out a customary SoB inappropriate penis joke before you shuffle off to bed old fella.

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 1:03 am
Will be away from here for a while;

Don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

See-ya, Steve

although I suspect you are just lying.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 1:07 am
People here live in a fantasy world of their own making as to what I have said; this is clear.

Mate, I don’t even read your posts if they’re longer than a sentence or two. Get over yourself.

Abu Chowdah

31 Jan 12 at 1:08 am
Anyway, this place is getting a tad tedious of late. Will be away from here for a while; things to do; people with better connections to reality to see.

Awww don’t be like that, your a good man, a good solid Liberal Voting Conservative Catholic who likes to ring up and say hi to some guy called “Alan” a lot.

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 1:16 am
Also at that link: Gillard counting numbers, fears imminent Rudd strike.

Said it many times before. Rudd must – simply must – contest the election that sees the ALP decimated. If he doesn’t he’ll be like Captain Wacky crapping on forever about how it might have been glorious if only he’d been given a guernsey.

Abu Chowdah

31 Jan 12 at 1:18 am
“Ten times more”. That’s a lot.

It’s not just a lot. It’s an order of magnitudes! There are myriads of ways it is bigger! It’s multiplies bigger!

wreckage

31 Jan 12 at 1:22 am
If Rudd doesn’t go now he never will. It has to be in the next few weeks at the latest or it’s over for him.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 1:23 am
If he doesn’t he’ll be like Captain Wacky crapping on forever about how it might have been glorious if only he’d been given a guernsey.

SEP mate, Somebody Else’s Problem. In this case the ALP, and that just makes me happy.

wreckage

31 Jan 12 at 1:24 am
Will be away from here for a while; things to do; people with better connections to reality to see.

Promise, Steve? I know you think you’re a gadfly ’round these parts, but in truth, you’re more of a pubic louse. Please make good on your promise to piss off.

And there better not be a mysterious new handle popping up on the Cat tomorrow obsessing about Tony Abbott’s budgie smugglers.

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 1:24 am
Call me surprised. Not!

Telstra warns price for using NBN may blow out

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/telstra-warns-price-for-using-nbn-may-blow-out/story-fn59niix-1226257786803

JC

31 Jan 12 at 1:26 am
Just discovered that over 10 of my relatives were murdered in Auschwitz. One was 76.

Woolfe

31 Jan 12 at 2:54 am
Strange you mention that because Australian Story this evening covered a story about this amazing woman that survived the nazis with the help of a then young German industrialist and she met him again when he was 97 and she was in her 80′s.

She also gave a speech at the Berlin Halocaust museum that was perhaps one of the best speeches I’ve heard.

Worth watching,

JC

31 Jan 12 at 2:58 am
Touching moment at the Holocaust museum here at which a remarkable reunion takes place.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 3:16 am
Catholic Bishops Slam Obama’s Assault on Religious Freedom.

Letter read at virtually every parish in the United States.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 3:29 am
By accident David Penbathy makes the case for smaller government in his article today:

When Bob Carr was premier of NSW, he would often say that the only thing you could be sure of while running the state was that there were 100,000-odd public servants and at any given time one of them was doing something completely stupid.

Isn’t it obvious, reduce the # of Public Servants to reduce the harm they can do…

Token

31 Jan 12 at 9:07 am
Given that, it is ultimately just another member of the Canberra Group Think Collective tries to distract people’s attention away from the fact a group of staffers in the PM’s office provoked a race riot to win partisan political points.

It brought to mind Graham Richardson’s droll observation that while Bob Hawke could stick his hand in a sewer and pull out 20 bucks, Gillard had enjoyed absolutely no luck as a politician.

Within the space of an afternoon, the Prime Minister had gone from being the subject of sympathy for having to endure a terrifying ordeal, to being on the defensive and facing breathless questions as to whether Hodges was acting for her or acting alone.

Isn’t it interesting, according to the Love Media, a woman in her 50′s with a track record in politics for 20+ years of making collosal failures of judgement (i.e. Town Mode, Medicare Gold, BER, etc, etc) the PM still remains young & naive it seems.

Token

31 Jan 12 at 9:10 am
Link

Token

31 Jan 12 at 9:11 am
For those who want to read more Graeme Bird

http://www.youtube.com/user/GMBCATASTROPHE/feed

jtfsoon

31 Jan 12 at 9:18 am
Thousands have done exactly that. Anyone and everyone active in progressive politics knew ASIO had a file on them as a matter of course. Something of a badge of honour, like having a Special Branch file in the Joh days

You don’t have an ASIO file metro.

You are not Petrov, Brigette or Haneef.

You’re also completely unimportant.

.

31 Jan 12 at 10:23 am
How did they ‘know’ ASIO had a file on them?

Idiots.

.

31 Jan 12 at 10:24 am
Political chatters on ABC radio this morning agreed that Hodges activities were nothing out of the ordinary in these days of 24/7 new coverage, Tony Abbott’s whereabouts were publically known, and ANY comment about the tent embassy on such a sensitive day as Australia Day was inflammatory. Oh and Julia Gillard would have been horrified at the outcome. I am sure she was.

Viva

31 Jan 12 at 10:24 am
Viva

We really have to thank the ABC. Anybody of any sense is now so well trained in the political trickery of our Government broadcaster so we all know that the opposite of the ABC’s editorial line is the truth. Only fools and lefties believe the ABC. And the vast majority of Australians are neither.

Rococo Liberal

31 Jan 12 at 10:59 am
Stevie, don’t go. Anyway, you know the Cat is addictive.

Tell you what. You can be Piglet for a while instead of Pooh Bear. Won’t that be nice?

Am suddenly reminded of that cartoon that did the rounds during the last combined bird flu/swine flu panic: Pooh and little Piglet in traditional illustration seen heading happily down the road together for jolly adventuring, with Piglet airily thinking “How lucky I am to have a friend like Pooh”, and Pooh, the bigger one, thinking “If the pig sneezes, he’s fuckin’ dead”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

31 Jan 12 at 11:01 am
Here ya go, Gab.

Winston SMITH

31 Jan 12 at 11:10 am
Call me surprised. Not!

Telstra warns price for using NBN may blow out

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/telstra-warns-price-for-using-nbn-may-blow-out/story-fn59niix-1226257786803

The NBN will never be completed and cost $150 bn plus.

It is redundant. When analog TV gets switched off – BAM, new media spectra.

.

31 Jan 12 at 11:15 am
Here ya go, Winston xxx

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 11:16 am
Political chatters on ABC radio this morning agreed that Hodges activities were nothing out of the ordinary in these days of 24/7 new coverage, Tony Abbott’s whereabouts were publically known, and ANY comment about the tent embassy on such a sensitive day as Australia Day was inflammatory. Oh and Julia Gillard would have been horrified at the outcome. I am sure she was.

Remember when the left used to bleat about ‘what will they think about us overseas’? I can assure you that the images and headlines of a ‘race riot’ sent around the world make us look like a bunch of antipodean rubble.

Nic

31 Jan 12 at 11:25 am
Bolt has some inadvertent hilarity from Crikey:

From Crikey to AFR yesterday

Mr Stutchbury,

The AFR’s use of “blacks” this morning in a front-page headline for a piece on indigenous employment has prompted a number of critical comments to Crikey, suggesting it is offensive to at least some indigenous people, and inaccurate as well.

Can you advise whether you personally wrote or requested the headline, or approved it, or whether it was the work of a subeditor?

Thanks for your time.

Bernard Keane

Will Keane be hauled before Mordy?

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 11:26 am
Thanks Winston.

Mea culpa. Too verbal. And too lazy to find it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

31 Jan 12 at 11:26 am
Only fools and lefties believe the ABC. And the vast majority of Australians are neither.

Strange then that the ABC is the most trust media outlet in the country by some distance, and one of the nation’s most trusted public institutions.

But I digress. I need some help from JC, quick, because it is widely know and accepted (at least among two readers on the Cat) that JC is the oracle on US politics. And JC and his mate CL have been telling us for years that Obama was bust, done and dusted, gone, useless, hopeless, the worst Prez ever, a divider and that the home of the brave just couldn’t wait to throw him out with the trash come the election. But now the polls, the pundits and the smart money on the betting market tells us that Obama is cruising toward a second term win. Even the pro-Republican Rassmussen poll has his approval rating over 50.

How can this be? Are there two Obamas? What happened to Obama the no-good, useless bum? How could the American people even be thinking about re-electing the “worst Prez” ever? Or could it be that, just this once, JC the self-proclaimed “best bullshit detector in the entire universe” has (dare I say it) got it wrong? Your urgent attention to this vexing matter would be much appreciated. Thanks.

1080

31 Jan 12 at 11:33 am
Morals campaigner and Methodist Ladies’ College Old Gel, Nicola Roxon, told Chris Uhlmann last night that it’s OK for the ALP to start race riots:

CHRIS UHLMANN: And all the things I’ve just described are the basis for criminal offences: incitement to riot or affray, causing public alarm and making false statements with the intent to cause public alarm, so why isn’t that worthy of a police investigation?

NICOLA ROXON: … It’s for the police to make an assessment what constitutes incitement. They wanna look at intent, they would look at words that are used. I think we need to be very careful here when we’re talking about informing people of particular situations or whether we’re talking about encouraging people to act in a way that is violent….

CHRIS UHLMANN: What are people to make of the political culture of the Prime Minister’s office if a staffer was prepared to use race to incite hatred on Australia Day?

NICOLA ROXON: Well, look, I don’t accept part of that question, because incitement is a very specific term. It’s not the same as providing information.

Gillard’s office was just providing “information.”

Just like Al Sharpton re Crown Heights:

If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house.

Or, as Gillard’s people put it: “If the Abos want to get it on, tell them to pin their headbands back and come over to the Lobby Restaurant.”

Information.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 11:36 am
CONFIDENCE IN INSTITUTIONS 1983 AVS 1998 ACS (%)

Police 80 71
Health system 68 56
Education system 65 51
The churches 56 39
Legal system 61 29
Local government 50 28
Public service 47 27
State government 52 22
Federal government 55 21
Banking system 87 21
The press (the media) 29 13

Source: 1983 Australian Values Study Survey and 1998 Australian

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 11:41 am
Obama Occupy latest:

Occupy Protester Strangles Parents – Stuffs Their Bodies in the Back of family car.

Friends and relatives said Susan Poff and Robert Kamin of Oakland were the perfect pair to adopt a foster child.

They had dedicated their careers to helping others escape poverty, she as a physician assistant in a city-run clinic in the Tenderloin and he as a clinical psychologist for inmates in the San Francisco County Jail system.

But now, less than a decade after they adopted, their 15-year-old son stands accused of strangling both Poff, 50, and Kamin, 55, then hiding their bodies in the back of the family’s PT Cruiser…

Co-workers said Poff and Kamin were having some arguments with their son, some of it having to do with him spending too much time in the Occupy Oakland encampment, but nothing that sounded beyond the scope of typical teenage rebelliousness.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 11:51 am
Some findings from the most recent ABC Appreciation Survey conducted by (the “hate media’s”) Newspoll:

Reflecting all previous waves of the survey, in 2011 nine-in-ten Australians believe the ABC provides a “valuable” service to the community, and around half regard it as being a very valuable service

Most Australians (79 percent) remain of the view that ABC TV provides quality programming, and about seven-in-ten feel it does a “good job” in terms of the number of shows it provides they personally like to watch.

Two-thirds of Australian adults believe the ABC provides good quality radio programming (9 percent feel it is poor). Around 60 percent believe ABC Radio does a “good job” in terms of the amount of programming it provides that they personally “like to listen to”

Case closed. Now, where is JC is help us to know what to think about US politics? How come Americans are apparently on the verge of re-electing the “worst Prez” ever?

1080

31 Jan 12 at 12:29 pm
A CNN presenter yesterday referred to honor crimes in Canada as merely a “controversial practice” when reporting on a case in which parents and son killed their three sisters and a first wife. Defenders from the left (who else) maintain that violence against women occurs in all sections of society and is only called honour killings when Muslims do it. Well, well, well. Whatever happened to the left’s concept of a “hate crime”. Seems like no such thing exists when Muslims are the perpetrators.

Viva

31 Jan 12 at 12:33 pm
How come Americans are apparently on the verge of re-electing the “worst Prez” ever?

Didn’t they also do this, according to leftists, back in 2004?

dover_beach

31 Jan 12 at 12:42 pm
Well, well, well. Whatever happened to the left’s concept of a “hate crime”. Seems like no such thing exists when Muslims are the perpetrators.

This is a great example of Blair’s Law in action.

Token

31 Jan 12 at 12:49 pm
I had to repost this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonded_DSL_Rings

Read this (pro tip: 400 mbps), then question why we are paying Telstra to rip out the copper wires.

FUCK. ME. SIDEWAYS.

.

31 Jan 12 at 12:49 pm
Abbott delivering excellent speech on Coalition vision for Australia at the Press Club. Hope transcript becomes available on line.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 12:55 pm
Some lefty reporter questioned Abbott about calling the current government lazy, ineffective etc, before he could the question Abbott quipped:

And you’re here to defend them?

Much laughter and applause ensued.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 1:08 pm
..before he could finish the question…

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 1:09 pm
Abbott delivering excellent speech on Coalition vision for Australia at the Press Club.

Has Gillard sent along some Aborigines?

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 1:14 pm
None seen yet, although it’s difficut to say who is and isn’t Aboriginal these days, CL.

Question time now and he’s getting asked difficukt questions which is a joy as I thought the Love Media over here had lost that ability.

However I do expect the headlines this afternoon to read:

Abbot’s Press Club speech says he wants to tear down Tent Embassy

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 1:17 pm
Why Republicans are more likely to pay royalties to Country singers than douches.

Token

31 Jan 12 at 1:17 pm
Why are the Global Warming Doomsday cultists always right when it comes to computer models and wrong in real life?

Here 36 Lives that would’ve been saved if the planet would stopped being naughty and listened to what the warmingistas want it to do…

Token

31 Jan 12 at 1:20 pm
Aboriginal leader makes a stand and fights against racist laws against indigineous people

(…and maybe he was making a buck on the side, but really, it is the principle that matters).

Token

31 Jan 12 at 1:28 pm
Gab,

Suspect the Chinese whispers that passes for media reportage on TA will read more like:

“We heard from someone, who knows someone at the Press Club, who is absolutely sure that Abbott said he will:

send indigeneous Australians offshore, and then turn their boats around when they try and come back, and throw widows and orphans out into the snow !

Outraged crowd of Canberra Get-up supporters surrounds Press Club shaking their zimmer frames and waving “It’s Time” placards !!

Myrrdin Seren

31 Jan 12 at 1:28 pm
Greens demand break all parliamentary conventions of being a caretaker and enact legislation now from Anna Bligh to ensure aboriginals on Cape York are kept in poverty in perpetuity.

Token

31 Jan 12 at 1:34 pm
lol, Myrrdin.

Please stop giving them ideas!

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 1:35 pm
…Outraged crowd of Canberra Get-up supporters surrounds Press Club shaking their zimmer frames and waving “It’s Time” placards !!

…while the ABC plays a clip every 15 minutes on News 24 a clip where the voice over announces the protests were in response to Abbott’s divisive comments.

Token

31 Jan 12 at 1:36 pm
ahahahahahahahhahaahhahahaha

Odumbo.. we created 22 million jobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no3DtOP2eQQ&fea

JC

31 Jan 12 at 1:53 pm
I swear to god words escape me:

But Senator Milne called on Coles to prove that the lower prices would not have a long-term effect on the price it paid farmers for fruit and vegetables.

She said she feared the prices Coles was paying growers to take the glut of fruit and vegetables off their hands would remain in place permanently, leaving farmers worse off financially.

Holy shit, the utter ignorance and stupidity of that comment burns my brain.

Also we must be the only country in the world where the left piss and moan about the big evil supermarket “duopoly” then piss and moan about their prices being too low.

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 2:09 pm
hahahhahahahahahahahahahhaha

Tubby Milne the intellectual lioness of the senate is at again. I’m not saying this to emphasize the point, but she is a seriously stupid person with a big mouth.

She leaves no rock unturned to go pubic with another stupid comment. Tasmania has a fucking lot to answer for sending that moron to the senate.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 2:16 pm
Bringing a retard and a pro-stalinist into Parliament.

The people who voted for the Greens should hang their heads in shame

jtfsoon

31 Jan 12 at 2:16 pm
She leaves no rock unturned to go pubic with another stupid comment.

Sick.

Infidel Tiger

31 Jan 12 at 2:19 pm
Lol

Listen to the retard. Big oil, big tobaccy and US Right wing think tanks bring their views here.

Durban was a critical time for climate says Tubby Milne.

As I said Tasmania has a lot to answer for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juygV2EuiuU&feature=related

JC

31 Jan 12 at 2:20 pm
Their idiocy is astounding:

OneSteel boss Geoff Plummer a year ago:

If we have a carbon tax at $20 a tonne, then that would be a drain of about $20m to $30m (a year) on OneSteel…

So Plummer will feel handsomely compensated today by the Gillard Government:

OneSteel will receive $64 million to help it prepare for the introduction of Federal Government’s carbon tax in July.

That should bring OneSteel on board.

Worst government in the history of governments globally.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 2:30 pm
“(Northern) Territory Indigenous Affairs Minister Malarndirri McCarthy wants Prime Minister Julia Gillard to apologise for the Aboriginal tent embassy clashes in Canberra.”

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/say_sorry_prime_minister/

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 2:32 pm
So Gillard donated $44 million in shut-up money to OneSteel.

Explain to me again why these people can’t be thrown in jail?

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 2:45 pm
Dick Smith declares his hatred for foreigners:

Entrepreneur and “Buy Australian” campaigner Dick Smith says he will “rubbish” the electronics business he founded and that still bears his name if it is sold into foreign ownership.

“There will be a real problem if Woolworths do sell it to a foreign-owned company,” Mr Smith said, in response to news that Woolworths plans to close underperforming stores and sell the consumer electronics business after years of underperformance.

“I’ll rubbish them the whole time. They wouldn’t want to pay much.”

Dick Smith vows to fight sale to foreigners.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 2:49 pm
Will Keane be hauled before Mordy?

I would believe that Justic Bromberg is a regularly subcriber of Crikey and keen reader of Pure Poison,

I trust Keane would be ok due to this important and very valid bit of legal precedence…

Bromberg J not only found that Bolt’s columns contained errors. He also found that there was an “omission of a series of relevant facts” (Para 393). In other words, Bolt went down not only for what he wrote (which was found to be unreasonable and erroneous) but also what he did not write (but, in the judge’s view, should have been written).

I trust Justic Mordy would find no problem with the letter based upon what should have been written by keen.

Simple.

Token

31 Jan 12 at 2:50 pm
Man turns down becoming cofounder of Facebook, later helps John Kerry’s campaign

LOL

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/the-man-who-said-no-to-cofounding-facebook-with-zuckerberg-costing-him-millions-20120131-1qqn9.html

jtfsoon

31 Jan 12 at 2:52 pm
They’re economic geniuses. Here’s an invoice for say $23,000 beucase you let off CO2, but let me give you S64,000 before you pay the invoice just to make sure you can pay the invoice and in the hope you’ll be real nice and stop with “carbin pallushun”. Sure. That makes a heap of sense in Utopia World.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 2:53 pm
Their idiocy is astounding

Is there any wonder there is a long line of rent seekers trying to get access to the government? One day soon the cash will run out.

By jingos, what CEO would want to front their shareholders if it became known they did not collect a magical pot of cash from the Federal Labor money tree?

Token

31 Jan 12 at 2:53 pm
“I’ll rubbish them the whole time. They wouldn’t want to pay much.”

What a spiteful sack of turd.

Dick is always at his best like when he pays Mad Dog Brown’s court judgements that would otherwise bankrupt the look causing him to the turfed out of the senate.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 2:55 pm
LOL. Due to the ongoing collapse of the ‘global warming’ hoax, warmies turn to Stalinism…

Global warming activists seek to purge ‘deniers’ among local weathermen.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 3:00 pm
Interesting, Mumbles acknowledges what is the meme here at the Cat while slamming Labor in general.

Gillard backers are today apparently warning of multiple resignations from Parliament if Rudd is brought back.

Yes, it’s amateur hour.

The Labor Party has a strand of people who believe the strangest things about how to get gain community support. Encouraging a public confrontation for the nightly news between Abbott and angry Aboriginal activists is a great example.

This was supposed to help the government?

What would “encouraging” be a euphemism for?

Token

31 Jan 12 at 3:02 pm
Muslim Brotherhood intent on doing good things in Egypt;

…the first five years…should be a period in which we teach people the true laws of the shari’a. when we find food for all the hungry, schools for all the pupils, hospitals for all the sick, homes for all those who want them, wives for all the bachelors

After that, not so good;

I think that in the first five years, there should be no chopping off of hands.

Paul Williams

31 Jan 12 at 3:12 pm
Egyptistan, Paul, Egyptistan:

I went to the veggies market last Friday, I usually go on Friday anyway, but this time for the first time the merchants stopped selling anything when they heard the call for prayer!!! Most of them left their young kids to watch over the goods and they went to pray. Most of the customers also disappeared and the few like me who were oblivious to the “New Misrstan” had to wander around aimlessly and wait for those idiots to return! It was unbelievable, suddenly we are living in Saudi or Afghanistan without the need for a passport or a visa.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 3:16 pm
So the government is going to find all the bachelors a wife, or ummm wives.

That’s some heavy duty government intervention there fellas. Good luck.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 3:17 pm
funny how Mr Rudd is popular with voters and yet his colleagues hate him, and Ms Gillard’s colleagues seem to love her and yet the rest of us dislike her, it’s tricky for the the party.

candy

31 Jan 12 at 3:18 pm
There will be no Julia Gillard in the government I lead.

– Kevni Rudd sometime in 2012.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 3:21 pm
Tough punishment for crims ain’t necessarily barbaric. What’s objectionable is tough punishments for things we would not regard as great crimes here. However chopping off hands seems counterproductive.

jtfsoon

31 Jan 12 at 3:23 pm
LOL. Due to the ongoing collapse of the ‘global warming’ hoax, warmies turn to Stalinism…

“These climate denier meteorologists are betraying the public’s trust and distorting America’s airwaves with ideological science denial,” the liberal publication reported, listing the names of a majority of the campaign’s identified “deniers.”

“climate denier meteorologists”
“ideological science denial”

Doubleplusungood.

The hysteric tones of believers lately marks the beginning of the end.

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 3:24 pm
Does anyone know.

Do you at least receive a local anesthetic before they chop off a hand or is it done in the raw?

It would damn well hurt in the raw, I reckon.

Come to think of it, it may not be a bad form of punishment for public officials that try and incite race riots.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 3:24 pm
The worst punishment would have been to be hanged, drawn and quartered, especially the ‘drawn’ part.

Some sharp object is rammed through where the sun don’t shine to scrape off your bowel. Your nether regions are cut off. Then the stuff is shown to you and burnt.

You’d basically pray to die by the hanging before the quartering begins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered

jtfsoon

31 Jan 12 at 3:32 pm
They would saw the hands off under a general anaesthetic i mean otherwise it be cruel wouldn’t it.

candy

31 Jan 12 at 3:33 pm
They would saw the hands off under a general anaesthetic i mean otherwise it be cruel wouldn’t it.

Slightly, I’d say candy. But I’m not sure they do. I think it’s a straight chop with a sword.

I knew a bloke once that worked for our firm in the private banking section in Saudi. I can’t recall the exact city, however the office was just off the main square but they could still get a looksee in the direction of the square.

He saw a few beheadings and hands being cut off after Friday prayer. Nasty business.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 3:40 pm
Come to think of it, it may not be a bad form of punishment for public officials that try and incite race riots.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9762/gillj.jpg

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 3:51 pm
CL? Is that link Roxon-safe?

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 3:55 pm
There you are JC. Hey mate, can you help me out, being as you are the local oracle on US politics. Just wondering how it is the bloke you and CL reckon is the most hated, useless, divisive, worst Prez ever (and that’s when you are feeling kind), looks like being re-elected, according to polls, pundits and the betting markets? What happened to you “best bullshit detector in the whole universe”? Has it been having an off day for the past couple of years?

I’m just trying to help you out here mate, I’ve got your back. Because I figure you should be rehearsing some of the arse-covering lines you’ll need come November. What is going on?

1080

31 Jan 12 at 3:56 pm
Just wondering how it is the bloke you reckon is the most hated, useless, divisive Prez ever was…

… re-elected in 2004.

Metro was backing Kerry and diaper-analyst John Edwards.

Ahahahahahaha.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 3:59 pm
This bloke “metro” owns CL’s brain as well as JC’s. He must have been using some powerful Jedi mind tricks. Who was/is this man who owns half this place even in his absence? Awesome dude. Don’t know what he has got but I want some.

1080

31 Jan 12 at 4:02 pm
Wayne,

We’re too far to make a call on the election. Best wait until August. Early polling and betting markets suggest, Rev Wright’s former understudy could well be elected. However his polling shows it is very shaky and not very deep.

The economy wrong/right direction is sky high against him. However like most incumbents he will be difficult to beat. I think he will. It’s just a hunch as the right/wrong track is very much saying he’s a moron.

We’ll see.

Now go polish the fake Wlakley and fuck off.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 4:03 pm
Metro was backing Kerry and diaper-analyst John Edwards.

Oh yea, that’s right. lol. Wayne normally goes apeshit when that’s brought up and usually gets banned.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 4:04 pm
1080′s 2004 presidential pick:

http://conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/john_kerry_nasa.jpg

His Veep pick:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20071313-503544.html

Good call.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 4:07 pm
See, he’s got JC’s head, this time disguised as ‘Wayne’. What amazing techniques of mind control was this bad-arse using?

We’re too far to make a call on the election.

Not sure about that. A lot of punters are putting money on it. But you’ve been making the call that he is a goner for months now. How come you suddenly got all cautious and measured. Oh, I see. Part of the arse-covering. Begin cultivating the more moderate, let’s wait and see JC before you bring out the “there is no way Obama can lose this” JC. Nice work. You could spin for the Alliance with skills like those.

1080

31 Jan 12 at 4:08 pm
This bloke “metro” owns CL’s brain as well as JC’s.

Wayne, Metro.

there are three comments you posted earlier today directed to me and CL which we both ignored. It’s the other way around, you failed journalist. You’re trying to get our attention like a little kid.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 4:08 pm
“If the Abos want to get it on, tell them to pin their headbands back and come over to the Lobby Restaurant.”

BYO spear.

Peter Patton

31 Jan 12 at 4:14 pm
I’ve actually been saying for months that the GOP deserve to lose given their cowardly repudiation of Tea Party reform. They’ve more or less nominated a socialist dickhead who has now been endorsed by George Soros.

There’s a better than average chance that, given the choice, a preponderant number of independents will stick with Barack The Magic Negro because at least he’s the worst ever president they know.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 4:32 pm
Global warmening melting glacier scam. The real story:

POLICE are investigating a criminal gang that allegedly stole blocks of ice from the Jorge Montt Glacier in southern Chile.

They must be prepping for one serious party.

Gab

31 Jan 12 at 4:36 pm
Wayne, Metro.

As Ronnie Regan said to Jimmy Carter, “there you go again”. Always talking to this person/persons who own your head. Have you ever thought of a cult de-programmer? They might help free up some space in your mind.

And an update of some of the recent AGW threads, something to agitate the denialists. The temp figures for 2011 are available. It was the ninth warmest year since 1880 (when serious recording began), according to NASA. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says This year tied 1997 as the 11th warmest year since records began in 1880. The annual global combined land and ocean surface temperature was 0.51°C (0.92°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F). This marks the 35th consecutive year, since 1976, that the yearly global temperature was above average. The warmest years on record were 2010 and 2005, which were 0.64°C (1.15°F) above average. All of that in a “cool” La Nina year.

I’m calling this “global cooling talk” another denialist myth busted.

1080

31 Jan 12 at 4:36 pm
Tremendous work, Homeland Security:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/travel/news/tourists-detained-over-twitter-joke/story-fn32891l-1226258129977

Keeping America safe by molesting nuns, kids and tweeters.

Infidel Tiger

31 Jan 12 at 4:39 pm
I’ve actually been saying for months that the GOP deserve to lose given their cowardly repudiation of Tea Party reform.

Ah you see, that’s where you are wrong (again? still? as always?) One of the reasons the better candidates stayed out of the race or didn’t stand a chance in it (Daniels, Huntsman, Christie) is because the Tea Party owns the GOP, with help from Fox and Limbugh. They are the party right now. The GOP is in a mess in part because Rove/Bush left it that way, and then because Palin and the nutters have done it down, down, down since then.

And just to add to the wierd political analysis you reckon the independents will vote for Obama because he’s the “worst Prez ever”. That makes perfect sense. Of course, the worst candidate always win, everyone knows that.

1080

31 Jan 12 at 4:45 pm
bingo. Wayne finally mentions “Bush”. I won.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 4:55 pm
Oh great, after 1080′s comprehensive keelhauling in the Broken Window Fallacy thread, he’s staggered back in here to again propagate his ignorance of US politics. Fan-flippin-tastic.

PS. Dick Smith is a complete Helen Hunt!

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 4:58 pm
I won.

Of course you did petal. Won what exactly? While you are working that out, please be quiet, the grown ups are talking about things you don’t understand, like US politics. Just play quietly with your imaginary friends, metro and wayne.

1080

31 Jan 12 at 5:06 pm
If I were the Woolworths CEO, I would make a once-off decision to make bottom-line considerations secondary, and sell DSE to the buyer who would piss Dick Smith off the most. Who would it be, I wonder?

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 5:09 pm
I’d be aiming to cause Dick Smith stroke-enducing levels of rage. It would be gratifying for him to end up a drooling moron, instead of just the moron he is now.

Drink your peas, Dick. They’re Australian. I think.

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 5:12 pm
Just play quietly with your imaginary friends, metro and wayne.

By the way, where’s “sando” today? Have you got the crowd in your head down to two? Or wouldn’t his mum let him come out to play with you and the other two today?

1080

31 Jan 12 at 5:19 pm
What I want to know is why the Indians get charged a higher minimum price than the Chinese.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/racist-price-list-for-golf-membership-sparks-backlash/

jtfsoon

31 Jan 12 at 5:22 pm
Wayne, stop pretending to know anything about US politics. You backed John Kerry for president in 2004. One poll from Rasmussen (known by your lefty brethren at the Daily Kos as the ‘Reichspollster’) and you appear to be celebrating victory for Obama, the worst president in American history.

Probably the funniest thing you’ve implied today is that Romney is da Tea Party.

LOL.

As Romney’s stock has risen, so too has Obama’s approval rating – just as I predicted.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 5:32 pm
Henderson on Abbott Derangement Syndrome: Gillard office madly driven by a “psychological phenomenon.”

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 5:35 pm
Thanks for the NASA reference too, Wayne.

Hey, is James Hansen still being pursued for fraud?

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 5:41 pm
Much praise, LOLs and attention for this new anti-Romney ad in the Twitterverse.

It’s a classic.

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 5:47 pm
JC, are you sure this squalid sister shagging window licking pointy headed addlepated bong huffing lackwit is Metro?

It seems far more stupid, I mean it actually thinks you get rich by going to war, and its illiterate yowls show that even if you write something exceptionally simple down it cannot possibly comprehend it. Seriously ‘Want bong’ and ‘Root brother tonight’ are major intellectual achievements to this thing. I suppose it does show that homo erectus was our far-distant ancestor (it being a throwback to the shallowest end of the homo erectus gene pool), but any of the Great Apes are cleaner, smarter, better at discussion, more useful and superior company.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Jan 12 at 6:07 pm
Hmmm… Mitt Romney helped locate missing teen daughter of Bain Capital partner

Fleeced

31 Jan 12 at 6:29 pm
I’m not sure it’s all that devastating to Romney, CL. One of the better ones, sure, but hardly a game-changer. Everything in it has been in the public domain for ages.

There’s a bit of desperate wishful thinking going on in the anti-Romney ranks, methinks.

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 6:32 pm
JC, are you sure this squalid sister shagging window licking pointy headed addlepated bong huffing lackwit is Metro?

I think it is metro, my carbon slave, MK. In fact I’m sure its Wayne the fake walkley award winner.

His stupidity does overwhelm but don’t forget that his stupidity was overwhelming back before he was thrown off, had a hissy fit and threatened a lawsuit till the cows come home.

He of course denies who he is now because of the discomfort of those threats and showing up here. So don’t expect him to admit he’s the diamond ear studded boofhead we all got to know and detest.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 6:49 pm
Does Rinehart read the Cat?

Rabz wrote:

Yes, I’m sure the shareholders would be falling over themselves to dump their fairfax stock at a massive loss.

Quite frankly I hope Gina Rinehart takes the lying morons over (at a pittance for her) and sacks all the lefties.

From The Australian:

GINA Rinehart, Australia’s richest person, is rumoured to be behind a $192 million raid on Fairfax Media shares this afternoon.

Andreas

31 Jan 12 at 7:01 pm
Ah you see, that’s where you are wrong (again? still? as always?) One of the reasons the better candidates stayed out of the race or didn’t stand a chance in it (Daniels, Huntsman, Christie) is because the Tea Party owns the GOP, with help from Fox and Limbugh. They are the party right now. The GOP is in a mess in part because Rove/Bush left it that way, and then because Palin and the nutters have done it down, down, down since then.

That is without a doubt the absolutely worst analysis of US politics I’ve ever read anywhere.

You should be ashamed of yourself, being so wrong should be some sort of crime.

Christie is a celebrity inside the Tea Party, Romney and Gingrich are the polar opposite of who TEA party people desire yet one of them is going to be nominated. How does what you wrote even make fucking sense when compared with reality??

You’re easily the most hopeless and useless troll ever.

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 7:02 pm
Does Rinehart read the Cat?

Yes, and Fairfax hacks are crapping themselves. Good. I hope She puts the good Professor Bunyip on the Board of Directors.

Nic

31 Jan 12 at 7:10 pm
Hear those screams & gnashing of teeth, those are the Fairfax and Crikey luvvies thinking of how those sexist and demeaning things they’ve been saying about Rhinehart.

How many hours before Hartcher, Coorey, Grattan, the Pirate & Butch Carlton start telling everyone how they’ve always loved her, unlike the others.

Popcorn please

Token

31 Jan 12 at 7:24 pm
How many hours before Hartcher, Coorey, Grattan, the Pirate & Butch Carlton start telling everyone how they’ve always loved her, unlike the others.

Popcorn please

hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahhahaha

“but, but, I love Gina. Always have”

Pay back is a real freaking bitch at times.

It would be hysterical if the Bunyip was put on the board. Thinking about that .. sounds better than heaven.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 7:28 pm
She’s paid $200 million too much for those shares. Luckily she’s worth $20bn so it won’t trouble the accountant.

Infidel Tiger

31 Jan 12 at 7:31 pm
That fucking stock is like a roach motel. It screws everyone.

However if you look at it from her perspective there is value there.

Say you value the SMH at zero or even less by say @200 million after you take in having to pay forced redundancies to Michelle Grattan, Hartcher, Misha, Butch Carlton and the army of environmental writers they employ.

If you’re cash flow rich able to hold the banks at bay because you (gina) have enough to cover the debt, it then gives you more flexibility in terms of how you dispose of the assets.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 7:38 pm
Oops… SMH and The Age at zero…

JC

31 Jan 12 at 7:38 pm
A story from the Courier Mail, loaded a 5.27 pm today:

LABOR stalwart Simon Crean says Kevin Rudd is not a “team player” and has blamed the government’s plunging popularity on Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s campaign of negativity, combined with a series of unpopular policy decisions.

This governmnet will never get it. Ever.

Tiny Dancer

31 Jan 12 at 7:39 pm
Look at it as a charitable exercise. Maybe she can claim it as a tax deduction?

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 7:39 pm
Campaign of negativity. No shit! I mean, wtf do these bozos expect the leader of the opposition to do in the face of such epic incompetence from the government? Praise them? Utter, utter, utter fuckwittery of the highest order.

Oh come on

31 Jan 12 at 7:43 pm
I thought Mr Abbott’s speech today was wonderful, with dignity and eloquence, and also some humour. His tie was a tiny bit askew but that’s kind of endearing.
just thought i’d mention that.

candy

31 Jan 12 at 7:44 pm
Look , Farifax has net assets of around $4.4 billion and bank debt of around 1.5 billion.

market cap is around $1.7 billion.

It’s worth taking a punt stripping the shit out of it, selling all the assets, keeping the two mastheads Age and SMH and trying to improve them by firing all the leftist deadwood and starting them up again. There’s about $1 billion of gain there.

You could make that sort of money by even keeping $200 million in reserve for redundancies as you fire the morons and start hiring good decent writers.

I’d love to do that job for Gina. It would be satisfying is so many ways.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 7:47 pm
Was thinking the same thing JC, on asset value alone, there is meat to be stripped if needed.

Nic

31 Jan 12 at 7:52 pm
Worst case scenario is that Gina may have to use the abandoned Fairfax printing presses for party invites and the Hancock Prospecting newsletter.

The newsletter would be a better read and have better editing.

Infidel Tiger

31 Jan 12 at 7:58 pm
To the ‘vironment and leftie writers at Fairfax…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8nV6sn6raE

Watch this… we’ll start hearing a song and dance from the greenlsimers and perhaps even their junior partners (The liars party) that we need a death and wealth tax.

One problem, Windsor would be against it like a demon as the old lezzo has a big land holding.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 8:10 pm
Watch this… we’ll start hearing a song and dance from the greenlsimers and perhaps even their junior partners (The liars party) that we need a death and wealth tax.

Death taxes have always been part of the Greens platform.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greens-risk-backlash-with-fresh-move-to-resurrect-death-tax/story-fn59niix-1225917708955

Besides, there’s too many rich people in the ALP and unions who won’t support such a thing.

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 8:18 pm
My bet is that The Good Professor would do most of his work from the fairway.
He’d employ one of the ex columnists as a runner.

Winston Smith

31 Jan 12 at 8:41 pm
Have a heart!

Donor heart being rushed to recipient gets dropped on the ground after a photographer gets in the way.

Paul Williams

31 Jan 12 at 8:50 pm
I have not been as assiduous a reader of the site as usual lately, so forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I still have not seen an adequate explanation for why the Dalai Bama risked Seal Team Six to rescue two common-or-garden NGO staff from the Somalis who had kidnapped them, offing all nine of their erstwhile hosts in the process. It seems totally incongruous to deploy and risk such assets as were evidently used in that operation, for such seemingly low-value hostages. I’m glad they’ve been released, it’s great news for them and their families, but can someone enlighten me as to why, given that Islamist nutbags hold about 150 Westerners hostage at last count, this pair – employees of a Danish NGO – were rescued in such a full-on manner? It could not, surely, have had any relation to the President wishing to be in a position to say to Leon Panetta, in full camera view/earshot, on the House floor after his State of the Union speech, “good job tonight! Good job tonight!” Could it? This is truly mystifying. The TV news breathlessly focused on the fact that this was the same team that took out OBL. So – why did they go on this mission?

James in Melbourne

31 Jan 12 at 9:16 pm
What ever happened to Daddy Dave?

twostix

31 Jan 12 at 9:29 pm
He was banned for being far too nice, Stix. I don’t think we tolerate that sort behavior here.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 9:34 pm
Actually he said at the end of 11 that a new job would make his visits here less often.

JC

31 Jan 12 at 9:36 pm
Dispatches from the moronic war on drugs:

Top cop says 12yo girl’s strip search justified.

A review by Tasmania Police has exonerated the actions of officers who twice strip-searched a 12-year-old girl during a drug raid…

He says it is legal for officers to conduct a strip search of a child of any age, if it is warranted.

Hey, what’s molesting a child when it comes to rounding up a couple of grams of speed?

C.L.

31 Jan 12 at 11:03 pm
No drugs were found on her.

Great work boys!

Infidel Tiger

31 Jan 12 at 11:11 pm
What ever happened to Daddy Dave?

He was sold to a private equity fund.

badm0f0

1 Feb 12 at 12:06 am
What ever happened to Daddy Dave?

I heard he was kidnapped by a band of gypsys who then sold him to a circus.

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 12:50 am
Friends and relatives said Susan Poff and Robert Kamin of Oakland were the perfect pair to adopt a foster child.

They had dedicated their careers to helping others escape poverty, she as a physician assistant in a city-run clinic in the Tenderloin and he as a clinical psychologist for inmates in the San Francisco County Jail system.

But now, less than a decade after they adopted, their 15-year-old son stands accused of strangling both Poff, 50, and Kamin, 55, then hiding their bodies in the back of the family’s PT Cruiser.

[...]

Co-workers said Poff and Kamin were having some arguments with their son, some of it having to do with him spending too much time in the Occupy Oakland encampment….

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/019154.html

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 12:54 am
Beats the real thing, IMO.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 1:02 am
Interactive map. Choose your states for your own 2012 election forecast.

So by my reckoning, if they can swing these states back FL, NC, VA, PA, OH, then it’s bye bye Obambi.

http://www.270towin.com/

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 1:17 am
Damn it, got it wrong already as PA won’t vote Republican.

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 1:21 am
Hit me in the head a hammer.

GREENS MPs and activists have complained that the party’s NSW branch is run by a small “cadre” of Leninist-style ideologues whose activities are making it appear to be populated by “lunatics”.

You shoulda thought about this before you slimy dickheads. HTF could you stick an unrepentant, traitorous Stalinist in the senate and think people eventually wouldn’t find out and not object.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/nsw-greens-riven-by-branch-warfare/story-fn59niix-1226258885354

JC

1 Feb 12 at 1:27 am
Great piece by Jeffrey Lord in The Spectator on the loser GOP establishment’s hatred of its own base:

Newt Battles Mush From the Wimps.

“Ford Declares Reagan Can’t Win” — Headline in The New York Times, March 1, 1980

Yet still more mush from the wimps.

To borrow a famous Reagan phrase: “Well, there they go again.”

Somewhere an exasperated Gipper is doubtless shaking his head.

The war between conservatives and the Republican Establishment — and make no mistake, this is a war — is on once more.

The people who brought the GOP losing candidates from Dewey to Dole are at it again.

A seven page essay, well worth reading in full.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 1:35 am
Wo…

The Age: PM’s staffer did not act alone: report.

A federal government source has contradicted Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s statement that a former staffer acted alone when he passed on information to a third party that led to a security scare at an Australia Day event, an indigenous newspaper says.

The National Indigenous Times (NIT) reported today that an unnamed source, described as holding a “senior position within government bureaucracy”, had told it a number of people within Ms Gillard’s office knew beforehand the “leak” was going to happen.

The explosive report, which has not been confirmed, comes after a protest last Thursday at The Lobby Restaurant in Canberra sparked a security scare involving Ms Gillard and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 1:39 am
“The federal government source said Mr Hodges did not act alone, that others in his office were aware of what was planned and the intention behind the call, and those who were aware may have included the Prime Minister herself,” the page three report, by Gerry Georgatos, says, according to an extract seen by AAP.

Well, that’s another fine mess you’ve gotten yourself into, Gillard. Oh that’s right, it’s not her fault it’s all Abbott’s fault. (Momentary lapse, won’t happen again peeps.)

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 1:43 am
The federal government source said Mr Hodges did not act alone, that others in his office were aware of what was planned and the intention behind the call, and those who were aware may have included the Prime Minister herself,” the page three report, by Gerry Georgatos, says, according to an extract seen by AAP.

I’m telling you guys, this came from her. She was in on it from the beginning and the stuff she went with in the cafe was scripted from the beginning.

What a lying dishonest slapper.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 1:49 am
Gee the Canberra ~~Press~~ Stenography Gallery are all over this, aren’t they?

Disgusting, corrupt clowns.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 1:57 am
Lol

When your money manager starts going out with a stripper.. well that’s a tell!

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000069186

JC

1 Feb 12 at 2:07 am
I’m telling you guys, this came from her. She was in on it from the beginning and the stuff she went with in the cafe was scripted from the beginning.

Well, she does have form:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/labors_stunt_exposed_abbott_visits_afghanistan/

But here’s the bottom line: what does this say about Gillard’s morals, that to make a political point she would risk exposing Abbott and the soldiers protecting him to greater danger?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/julia-gillard-loses-no-sleep-over-her-mockery-of-tony-abbott/story-e6frfifx-1225934616609

Ivan Denisovich

1 Feb 12 at 2:13 am
To JC’s credit he made the call first up when viewing the video of Gingerella talking to her protective detail (while ensuring the camera was on her) and asking about Abbott’s whereabouts and safety.

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 2:17 am
I’m going back to the video for a look-see.

Back in a sec…

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 2:21 am
What happens when you listen to Flannery

THE troubled desalination plant at Wonthaggi has hit a roadblock as thousands of valves designed to control water flow have failed.

Builders are desperately trying to meet a June 30 deadline before $1.8 million a day in penalty payments begin, but workers have warned the valves are a “substantial problem”.

Builder Thiess Degremont has admitted the fault, saying the valves are under warranty.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/faulty-valves-in-new-desal-delay/story-fn7x8me2-1226258864932

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 2:23 am
Mmm.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 2:24 am
SMH still reporting in video that Abbott wanted the tent embassy removed. Mongrels.

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 2:27 am
Here is Gillard talking to her security detail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCVf5mzudd8

It certainly looks like she glanced at the camera at 0:21 and 0:27. Remember that she lied about Abbott accusing her of an “inside job” (he just called for an investigation into her office). And she has also lied about Hodges working alone.

What a filthy, lying, homewrecking slapper she is. She’s perfect for the ALP, in other words.

Fisky

1 Feb 12 at 2:30 am
I have not been as assiduous a reader of the site as usual lately, so forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I still have not seen an adequate explanation for why the Dalai Bama risked Seal Team Six to rescue two common-or-garden NGO staff from the Somalis who had kidnapped them, offing all nine of their erstwhile hosts in the process. It seems totally incongruous to deploy and risk such assets as were evidently used in that operation, for such seemingly low-value hostages.

One was a US citizen. That should be sufficient motivation for US forces.

Likewise, if an Aussie was kidnapped and we had the triangulates, we should go in and crush those cunts.

Even if the Aussie was Jeremy Sear, Marieke Hardy, Bob Ellis, David Marr or Kevin Rudd. We should do everything we can to send a message that kidnapping is not tolerated and we are not soft – even if the victim was the lowest of the low, non-contributing, parasitical air bandit in Australian history. Even if it was 1080.

Abu Chowdah

1 Feb 12 at 2:34 am
Even if the Aussie was Jeremy Sear, Marieke Hardy, Bob Ellis, David Marr or Kevin Rudd.

Let’s not get carried away.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 2:43 am
Talking to a trader friend in NY earlier. He wants Gingrich to win because like me he think Newt gets the base and regular people fired up. He could beat Obumbo.

However, he believes Romney will take it out by the sheer weight of money. Romney’s super PAC’s spent freaking $25 million on advertising in Florida vs Newt’s $4 million! With that sort of money it’s hard to compete.

That prick Santorum won’t bow out and would otherwise help Newt get those voters rather than Romney.

He reckons a very rich Mormon former private equity guy is not going to win the big one.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 2:49 am
Even if the Aussie was Jeremy Sear, Marieke Hardy, Bob Ellis, David Marr or Kevin Rudd. We should do everything we can to send a message that kidnapping is not tolerated and we are not soft – even if the victim was the lowest of the low, non-contributing, parasitical air bandit in Australian history. Even if it was 1080.

Dude, stop making silly comments. We’re a generous people. However there a re limits and good sense.

It reminds me of a Danny De Vito movie. I think it was “Throw Mamma From The Train”.

A dude calls De Vito and says he’s holding his mother or someone supposedly close to him for a ransom. He tells De Vito he’ll kill the victim if he doesn’t get X amount of unmarked loot in a bag.

De Vito starts laughing into the phone and hangs up.

I’ll try and find the clip.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 2:56 am
Jeremy Sear, Marieke Hardy, Bob Ellis, David Marr

After 5 mins with any of that lot the kidnappers would pay our government to take them back.

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 3:00 am
It was Ruthless People.

Here’s one part of the scene when he’s told his wife was kidnapped.. watch the end when he’s flipping a bottle of champagne.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:02 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QJoV6_o5mU

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:02 am
Security officer (breathless):

Prime Minister, Jeremy Sear has been kidnapped by an organisation calling itself the Islamic Claws of The Prophet’s Favourite Cat. We’ve tracked their location and request an immediate green light to launch an SAS assault team via Black Hawke.

Prime Minister CL:

Wo, wo. Let’s not do anything hasty.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 3:18 am
lol

” We need to think about this and raise it at next month’s cabinet meeting. I’ll make sure it will be on schedule for as a topic discussion.

Sybil, you have lunch ready? I’m hungry. “

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:21 am
I like to think I’m open minded. So perhaps the three of you are right.

Abu Chowdah

1 Feb 12 at 4:41 am
The above scenario is too unbelievable. Why would the Islamic Claws of The Prophet’s Favourite Cat ever kidnap someone that is likely to be themselves a member?

dover_beach

1 Feb 12 at 5:05 am
“I still have not seen an adequate explanation for why the Dalai Bama risked Seal Team Six to rescue two common-or-garden NGO staff from the Somalis who had kidnapped them, offing all nine of their erstwhile hosts in the process”

The enthusiasm with which Nobel Peace Prize winner O’Bambi orders drone attacks and extra-judicial killings of Bad Guys is one of his (very few) good points, IMO.

spot

1 Feb 12 at 6:21 am
Dance, arts monkeys! Dance for government money! http://j.mp/wZxzYZ

“Leni Riefenstahl was not available for comment.”

spot

1 Feb 12 at 6:29 am
“One of the reasons the better candidates stayed out of the race or didn’t stand a chance in it (Daniels, Huntsman, Christie) is because the Tea Party owns the GOP, with help from Fox and Limbugh. They are the party right now.”

Dingo Bait’s done it. He’s gone full retard.

Someone stop him before he hurts himself.

spot

1 Feb 12 at 6:41 am
The sharks in Labor are circling, Gillard is in the killing zone. There is dirt that leads to Gillard and ambitious people will not miss their chance.

“The federal government source said Mr Hodges did not act alone, that others in his office were aware of what was planned and the intention behind the call, and those who were aware may have included the Prime Minister herself,” the page three report, by Gerry Georgatos, says, according to an extract seen by AAP.

It looks like “friends” of Gillard who would like to be PM are moving so they can take the crown, and to ensure Rudd does not get it.

Mumble’s view from yesterday was interesting and the statements were made as definite statements:

Simon Crean has been hitting the airwaves this morning defending the Prime Minister against Kevin Rudd. Just as Mark Latham defended Crean’s dying leadership against Kim Beazley in late 2003.
That worked out well for Latham. Crean possibly hopes for a similar outcome.

So who is leading the charge

Julia’s days are numbered but the replacement won’t necessarily. be Rudd. One person we haven’t heard from, or about, this morning is Defence Minister Stephen Smith.

How’s he spending the day?

Watch to see who becomes the anti-Rudd candidate.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 8:03 am
Cue the whining:

Greens communications spokesman Scott Ludlam says it is not healthy for people with major interests in Australia’s mining sector to also hold a large stake in the nation’s media.

But it is healthy for the insane rantings of lobotomised leftists in the very same lerve media to directly contribute to a stellar share price performance like this.

Morons.

Rabz

1 Feb 12 at 8:20 am
Token,

My mole in the laybore pardy gives juliar dullard no more than six weeks – and the money’s on kevni ruff.

This is presuming there isn’t a successful no-confidence motion in the interim (the mole conceded this was a possibility)

The mole also wasn’t able to adequately answer my question as to why laybore would go back to ruff, except to state that “shortnin’ isn’t ready”.

Quite frankly I demand laybore does bring back ruff, so we can enjoy the collective pleasure of watching the vile li’l creep bawl his eyes out once more, when laybore is annihilated at the next election, which can’t happen soon enough.

Rabz

1 Feb 12 at 8:28 am
But it is healthy for the insane rantings of lobotomised leftists in the very same lerve media to directly contribute to a stellar share price performance like this.

Morons.

I will dig up the audio later. Fran Kelly asked Joe Hockey if it is “appropriate” for the richest woman in Australia to own a media organisation like Fairfax.

The fruitbats are very afraid!

Token

1 Feb 12 at 8:32 am
Another case of a cowardly sleazy journalist attacking the family of a politician when they don’t have any dirt on the person themself.

For dentist’s son, positivity is like pulling teeth

By Michelle Grattan

Where has this troll ever written about the corruption investigations about Shagger Thompson?

Rinehard has a lot of work to clean up that dung filled trough at Fairfax.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 8:40 am
The fairfaxian perspective on these terrible developments…

Rabz

1 Feb 12 at 8:41 am
fran kelly asked Joe Hockey if it is “appropriate” for the richest woman in Australia to own a media organisation like fairfax.

There’s a neat symmetry to all this. The lefties used to hyperventilate about the richest man in Australia (K Packer) owning fairfax, now they’re doing the same about Gina.

Oh well, at least they’re not being zeeeeexist!!!! about it.

Rabz

1 Feb 12 at 9:03 am
Here is Gillard talking to her security detail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCVf5mzudd8

It certainly looks like she glanced at the camera at 0:21 and 0:27. Remember that she lied about Abbott accusing her of an “inside job” (he just called for an investigation into her office). And she has also lied about Hodges working alone.

What a filthy, lying, homewrecking slapper she is. She’s perfect for the ALP, in other words.

Notice at 0.50, where Gillard has just said to Abbott, “We’ll just pull together..”

Abbott: “Sure, ok..” and then gives a wry look and a raise of his eyebrows to his companion.

He knew instantly that it was a bit of theatre for the camera.

Paul Williams

1 Feb 12 at 9:07 am
Hear those screams & gnashing of teeth, those are the Fairfax and Crikey luvvies thinking of how those sexist and demeaning things they’ve been saying about Rhinehart.

Bunyip has been working hard to bring back the hits and memories from the greatest articles written by the Fairfax Love Media about Gina Rinehart.

Looks like Butch Carlton will be losing another high paid job at Fairfax…

Token

1 Feb 12 at 9:22 am
http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2012/01/31/from-the-land-that-brought-you-the-deep-fried-mars-bar/420332_10150515617776274_112218736273_9105929_461804118_n/

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 9:33 am
Even if the Aussie was Jeremy Sear, Marieke Hardy, Bob Ellis, David Marr or Kevin Rudd. We should do everything we can to send a message that kidnapping is not tolerated and we are not soft – even if the victim was the lowest of the low, non-contributing, parasitical air bandit in Australian history. Even if it was 1080.

Why send in the SAS? If we send in a posse of Victorian coppers, it’s a dead certainty that at least one of the hostages will be shot in the process.

boy on a bike

1 Feb 12 at 9:53 am
A world where Bob Brown is described as ‘pragmatic’. Fme

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/nsw-greens-riven-by-branch-warfare/story-fn59niix-1226258885354

Neighbour’s article contends the increased profile has coincided with an internal battle between the party’s NSW-based left-wing and its more pragmatic wing, led by the Tasmanian Senator Brown.

Much of the NSW tension surrounds the the NSW Greens’ support for the Boycott Divestment and Sanctions campaign against Israel, through Sydney’s Marrickville Council, and its support for attacks on the Brenner chain.

Neighbour details a “toxic” meeting of the NSW State Delegates Council in Darlington in Sydney in December, where delegates discussed sanctions against NSW MPs Cate Faehrmann, Jan Barham and Jeremy Buckingham for publicly rejecting the anti-Israeli action strategy.

Neighbour says the dominant clique is jokingly described as “the eastern bloc” because its members live in Sydney’s eastern suburbs “and they’re all communists”.

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 10:43 am
I seriously think Crean could beat Abbot because he is old school ALP. Howard just picked on him like a school bully and he just couldn’t mix it, and Howard was still very popular.

Abbot v Crean would be a good contest. The ALP might have too much baggage.

I think he might save them from a 70 seat Coalition majority though. Their primary vote is still a woeful 34%.

Neighbour says the dominant clique is jokingly described as “the eastern bloc” because its members live in Sydney’s eastern suburbs “and they’re all communists”.

Take away these arseholes Parliamentary super and they’ll become capitalists or social democrats.

.

1 Feb 12 at 11:00 am
Technically I used to live in the eastern suburbs.
Interesting mix of communists and Rococo Liberal types

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 11:02 am
Interesting:

Fran kelly asked Joe Hockey if it is “appropriate” for the richest woman in Australia to own a media organisation like fairfax.

Did Fran (tractor) Kelly ever complain when Dick Smith paid for Mad Dog Bob Brown’s court judgement?

Did Fran (Massey Ferguson) Kelly ever complain when the Greenslime received the largest donation in corporate history from a rich donor?

JC

1 Feb 12 at 11:02 am
It seems Gina’s move has turned the underpants of people in the Greenslimes (The parliamentary party & ABC) + Labor bBrown

Conroy flags tougher media laws after Rinehart move

This morning, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said Ms Rinehart was not breaking the law as it stands, but said he wanted new laws to include a public interest test on media diversity.

“Clearly she is seeking to exert her influence but is she breaking the law by exerting an influence? No,” Senator Conroy told ABC Local Radio.

“Do we need stronger laws in this area? Yes.

“We want to see a debate around a public interest test.”

No surprises that the Greens would not want a person involved with mining to run a media company.

Greens communications spokesman Scott Ludlam says it is not healthy for people with major interests in Australia’s mining sector to also hold a large stake in the nation’s media.

“It becomes, I think, incredibly dangerous,” he said.

“You get very narrow sectoral viewpoints over-represented in issues of enormous public interest like the climate change debate and whether we get a fair return on our resources.”

Irrational!

Token

1 Feb 12 at 11:10 am
Clearly she is seeking to exert her influence

So is Conroy!

.

1 Feb 12 at 11:13 am
They aren’t irrational, Token. They fully appreciate that Gina would gut the living shit out of those pikers and turn Fiarfax into a right wing operation over time.

So they’re panicked.

The trouble is that they either change or the market will do it for them by sending the thing broke… and Gina will then buy the assets that way.

Either way, life is about to change foe those layabout trolls.

The only person who is safe is Stutch over at the Fin Review.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 11:16 am
Fellas please.

Don’t look for any reason or rationality in all this.

That scum bag, Conroy and the gaggle of greenslime fully understand that if Gina buys this trainwreck, it will be over for them in terms of getting biased press from Fairfax.

So of course they’re doing what they can to stop it.

Let that prick (conroy) pass laws to stop it though.

It will crash the Fairfax stock price and scare the shit out of the bankers thereby imperiling the asset sale!

If Conroy restricts ownership, it makes those assets less attractive and the banks will eventually cotton on to that, so Conroy and the Greenslime may by inadvertently depressing Fairfax’s stock price even more by threatening restrictions. hahahahahahahahhaha

JC

1 Feb 12 at 11:24 am
Nasty, deluded fuckwits:

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/12/21/petition-says-thatchers-funeral-should-be-privatised/

If there was any justice they’d just ask to end Parliamentary pensions.

.

1 Feb 12 at 11:29 am
Fran Kelly is just a flat out moron. Hockey notes the Fairfax family were the richest family during the golden days when the rivers of gold were flowing.

Joe Hockey smacks down her pathetic green-left questions throughout the interview. Joe Hockey!

Token

1 Feb 12 at 11:31 am
Grattan:

Labor has competently seen Australia through extremely difficult times…

No, Michelle. The Howard/Costello surplus combined with Chinese cash saw Australia through difficult times.

Nothing to do with the government.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 11:34 am
Like I said C.L.,

China ran a 250 bn AUD stimulus concentrated in rail and building. Which of course ramped up demand for iron ore.

On top of that, we had a 57% cut in the cash rate (actually too much, leading to 4% inflation) which dropped the FX rate by around 33%.

Using the old surplus to fund the abolition of payroll tax and targeting NGDP would have seen us better off – Chinese demand was basically largersse to our miners.

.

1 Feb 12 at 11:37 am
She’s just pushing the Green argument Token. Tractor is a biased turd like the rest of the loons at the ABC.

Can you imagine the tension in luvviland at the moment?

The lying slapper is on her last legs, the polling suggest the Alliance is fucked and Fairfax is about to be bought by a right winger.

They must be beside themselves.

The morons don’t realize though that if they restrict ownership of Fairfax, it will panic the banks even more, as the assets are worth even less.

I’d love to see the expression on these moron’s faces when the pass a law restricting ownership and Fairfax takes an impairment charge of $1 Billion panicking the banks to liquidate assets even faster and cut costs.

The Age and the SMH will be down to 3 pages!

Get the popcorn.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 11:38 am
Don’t look for any reason or rationality in all this.

That scum bag, Conroy and the gaggle of greenslime fully understand that if Gina buys this trainwreck, it will be over for them in terms of getting biased press from Fairfax.

I totally agree JC. My point about the Greenslimer being irrational is about that sentence Ludlum blathered out in desperation to hide the realpolitik that drives their opposition.

“You get very narrow sectoral viewpoints over-represented in issues of enormous public interest like the climate change debate and whether we get a fair return on our resources.”

This is a statement Jessica Irvine & Liz Farelly would be proud of.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 11:39 am
“You get very narrow sectoral viewpoints over-represented in issues of enormous public interest like the climate change debate and whether we get a fair return on our resources.”

This is a statement Jessica Irvine & Liz Farelly would be proud of.

hahahhahahahaha It’s partially because of Jess and Betty that Fairfax is where it is!

I haven’t bought The Age for three years now and haven’t missed a thing.

Time for my bear song for all the luvvies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8nV6sn6raE

JC

1 Feb 12 at 11:44 am
Congratulations Indiana.

The first right to work state in the Upper Mid west.

With Indiana ‘right to work’ vote, a GOP thumb in the eye to unions

The Indiana House approved a ‘right to work’ bill late Tuesday, taking the state a giant step closer to ruling out mandatory dues for workers at union workplaces. Indiana would be the first ‘right to work’ state in the upper Midwest.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 12:02 pm
Fairfax shareholder: unlike us, Rinehart doesn’t understand newspaper business…

LOL:

ONE of Fairfax Media’s biggest shareholders says it would not support Gina Rinehart being offered a seat on the board of the media company, questioning whether she would have sufficient aptitude for it.
Orbis Australia fund manager Simon Marais, whose firm sold no shares into the bookbuild conducted by broker Morgan Stanley last night on behalf of Ms Rinehart, said he felt other Fairfax shareholders might also feel the same way.

“It is not something that is obvious to me that we would support. It is not clear to me it would be for the good of other shareholders,’” Mr Marais told The Australian today. “It is not clear she knows much about this business or whether she has sufficient aptitude for it.”

“I would be surprised if other people didn’t feel the same as us,” he added.

Orbis Australia would not support Fairfax board seat for Gina Rinehart.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 12:05 pm
But can you trust Orbis with your money?

https://online.orbisfunds.com.au/p?_s=fxm2rp5svHD_Z8yW&_k=UxhJzWfpYmu7sSVm

.

1 Feb 12 at 12:14 pm
lol..

If Orbis has been Fairfax shareholder for longer than 6 months, their own investors ought to question their stock picking edge and consider going elsewhere as this stock has been a dog for years.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 12:16 pm
Heartache for 1080:

Gallop: Obama above 50 percent in only 10 states…

Obama Approval Ratings Down in Most States.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 12:18 pm
good catch, Dot.

So orbis has been a freaking loser since inception and that idiot Simon Marais is questioning other people’s ability? WTF

What a delusional dickhead.

The Cat definitely is the roach motel for bullshit. No bullshit ever gets through this site. Ever!

JC

1 Feb 12 at 12:18 pm
And the winner is Romney…

All 50 delegates from Florida are now in the bag for Romney. Newt needs to win a few up coming polls to stay in this race.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 12:19 pm
I seriously don’t know how any serious “value” investor would end up picking FXJ.

It has a low PE but shit profitability.

Maybe a LBO target.

.

1 Feb 12 at 12:22 pm
I’m laughing my arse off at the luvvies hand wringing at the thought of Reinhart taking a 14% stake in Fairfax. Fancy that silly old lezzo Fran Kelly asking if it were appropriate for Australia’s richest woman to…. The Fairfax family were hardly paupers. Who does the silly bint think should take over? Or is it more the politics that Reinhart’s money represents?

Nic

1 Feb 12 at 12:35 pm
Where’s Gillard today – in hiding?

I thought they’d have a canned denial to the NIT claims which, if true, must lead to her resignation.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 12:47 pm
Libertarians are all talk?

There are no donations reported by Donors to Liberal Democratic Party

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 1:05 pm
Just poor.

.

1 Feb 12 at 1:09 pm
Bird uses Justin Timberlake to explain economics
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-top-ten-flaws-of-neoclassical-economics/#comment-38950

For those too stupid to understand the principle involved here there is a pretty good movie, with the star, of all people, Justin Timberlake. He’s not a bad actor at all. The movie is called “In Time”, and it depicts a world is which the money supply is a credit system, that parcels out days, minutes and seconds of available life.

So in this movie, the money supply is credit, that more directly represents available time (or life) itself. But in our world, our money supply is based on debt. Money is the medium of exchange and is necessary for our survival. As soon as the price and property system break down, we are mobilised, and famine breaks out. Now this movie further emphasises the slavery inherent in bad monetary systems, because in this movie everyone is genetically 25 years old. They get to 25, and then they are given credits, which are based around the concept of time. How long you have to live. If the credits run out they die right away. But they have to use their credits in order to buy everything. So they have to choose between what they buy, and how much time they have left to live. So what happens is that the people who are issuing this money supply are running a slave society.

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 1:11 pm
There are no donations reported by Donors to Liberal Democratic Party

Libertarians believe every one should pay their own way. No way they are going to give their hard earned money to the LDP. Think of the moral hazard.

1080

1 Feb 12 at 1:15 pm
I donated a day’s work to one campaign but that isn’t going to show up in the stats

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 1:17 pm
Just saw this one on a Maccas commodity report:

“Beijing has effectively barred mega iron ore ships owned by Brazilian miner Vale, stepping up protection of the domestic shipping industry and control over imports of the key steelmaking ingredient.

China’s Ministry of Transport on Tuesday, citing a downturn in the shipping industry, banned giant dry bulk vessels and oil tankers with immediate effect.

It did not specifically mention Vale in the new regulation, which affects all large vessels, including the fleet of 400,000 dwt vessels called Valemaxes.”

The things is – Vale built these vessels to allow them to compete with BHPB and Rio into China while still enjoying reasonable FOBT returns. There must have been huge due diligence on ports, certification etc before Vale made the investment.

For the Chinese to just slam the door on them is extraordinary.

And how does a country with ever rising appetites for liquid transport fuels ban bigger oil tankers ??

Seems to be some odd manoevres in the Middle Kingdom.

Myrrdin Seren

1 Feb 12 at 1:18 pm
Libertarians believe every one should pay their own way. No way they are going to give their hard earned money to the LDP. Think of the moral hazard.

Imbecile.

.

1 Feb 12 at 1:31 pm
JC’s Teddies are nice again don’t know what it’s to do with but something cute is always cheerful.

candy

1 Feb 12 at 1:47 pm
Bird uses Justin Timberlake to explain economics

It is no wonder that Bird refers to that movie, in the Hobbsean world the movie is set in, the money supply is actually controlled by an international cartel.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 1:54 pm
Sarkozy wants to introduce a Tobin Tax in France, to which David Cameron responds “go ahead, make my day.” Well, OK, no he didn’t say that, he actually said:

“And in the spirit of this healthy competition with France, if France goes for a financial transactions tax then the door will be open and we’ll be able to welcome many more French banks, businesses and others to the UK.

“We’ll expand our economy in that way as well as by rebalancing it, because I think this is the wrong move. [for France]“

Capitalist Piggy

1 Feb 12 at 2:04 pm
No one values their time properly in my experience. I remember pointing out to a hippie at work that – taking into account the value of her leisure time – she had effectively baked a $100 cake and that she could have bought a near equivalent for less than $10 dollars at the IGA downstairs. She was seriously unimpressed with the argument.

Apart from being difficult to measure I can’t see a good case for not including volunteer hours in annual returns. Labour is just as good as cash for some politcal purposes. Including volunteer hours would offer a far greater insight into campaign resources. It would also be consistent with leftist platitudes about recognising the value of unpaid work.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 2:05 pm
IMO the dirty tricks against Abbott on Australia Day were a desperate attempt to lift Gillard’s poll numbers as the first Newpoll of the year was being compiled the following weekend.

Viva

1 Feb 12 at 2:26 pm
Labradoodle wins Florida beauty contest.

GOP dogcatchers cart off Doberman to an uncertain future.

Viva

1 Feb 12 at 2:32 pm
Mitt Romney’s kick-arse victory speech.

http://news.investors.com/Article.aspx?id=599626&p=1&ibdbot=1

“In his State of the Union Address, the President actually said, “Let’s remember how we got here.” Don’t worry, Mr. President, we remember exactly how we got here! You won the election! ”

Go my son. Give him hell.

Alex Pundit

1 Feb 12 at 2:37 pm
Nearly half a billion for a bus company.

Well done, sir. Great achievement.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-01/bus-company-rewards-staff-with-cash-bonuses/3803902

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 2:38 pm
Libertarians are all talk?

I think the bigger question is why did the ALP take $50,000 from the big bad evil Goldman Sachs?

Fuck Labor are hypocrites:

Deutsche Bank $82,500.00
Hong Kong Kingson Investments $250,000.00
Mr William Chiu $100,000.00
Xiang Rong $75,000.00
Manildra Group $238,771.00
Inghams Enterprises Pty Limited $200,000.00
Westfield Group $200,000
National Australia Bank Limited $103,000.00

Next time I hear a Labor mouthpiece spouting off about big ebil foreign corporations and ebil billionaires and how it’s the Liberals who are supported by “the big end of town” I think it’ll be time for a beatdown.

twostix

1 Feb 12 at 2:40 pm
Libertarians are all talk?

I donated .. I can’t recall exactly if it was $2,000 to one of LPD’s campaigns and until I had an issue about one of their candidates I would have donated much more (instead of the liberal party). (it wasn’t Bird).

JC

1 Feb 12 at 2:44 pm
Thanks for that Myrrdin.
This would be the Communist part of the Chinese leadership that is taking a step toward protectionism. At a time when they need to have raw materiel delivered at the best price, they’re handicapping themselves with trade barriers.
But it’s not just that – If I had a very large mine, I’d be stepping back from expansion, diversifying my sales, and not depending on the CP to make investment decisions based on economic grounds.
I thought they were supposed to be the wily Orientals who could run rings around us round eyes?
It looks like China is about to discover the downside of sovereign risk.

Winston Smith

1 Feb 12 at 2:47 pm
Manildra Group $238,771.00

Big ethanol scum.

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1 Feb 12 at 2:47 pm
Stix

The Greens received $1.6 million from one donor, which was the largest donation in Australia’s political history from one person (in this case one single idiot).

Mad Dog Bob had Dick Smith pay a court judgement against him because the loon had court costs awarded against him in a court case with Gunns.

Fucking deplorable hypocrites.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 2:49 pm
Gillard is giving an incoherent speech on News24 at the moment. In one breath she praises the creative destruction of capitalism and the futility of opposing economic change, and in the next she says there is “no case, none” for ceasing government assistance to the car industry. And that’s just the latest in a series of contradictions. If this is the launch of Labor’s new emphasis on the economy, then they’ve tripped over their shoelaces at the starting line.

Jarrah

1 Feb 12 at 2:56 pm
American police state watch:

Boy, 10, Arrested In Burbank For Pointing Toy Gun At Woman.

BURBANK (CBS) — A 10-year-old boy was arrested Sunday after reportedly pointing a toy gun at a woman who believed it was a real weapon.

The boy knocked on the front door of the woman’s house and allegedly pointed the plastic gun at a 67-year-old woman who answered the door, according to the Burbank Leader. The boy picked the house because the woman’s grandson reportedly beat up his friend at school, Burbank police Lt. John Dilibert told the paper.

The boy yelled “you suck” at the woman while pointing the gun at her, then running away, Dilibert said…

The boy’s identity was not released because he is a minor. He was issued a citation and will have to appear in court within 30 days.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 2:58 pm
Nearly half a billion for a bus company.

Well done, sir. Great achievement.

The Grenda’s are smart people who ran a great business making good margins in a difficult and competitive industry while not wasting a penny on silly unnecessary overheads.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 3:00 pm
Neil Young: friend Steve Jobs hated CDs and listened to vinyl at home.

Neil Young Wants Digital Music to Die.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 3:01 pm
. If this is the launch of Labor’s new emphasis on the economy, then they’ve tripped over their shoelaces at the starting line.

naaaa The lying Slapper is just continuing on from the proud tradition of economic illiteracy and stupidity started by her predecessor, the little turd when he wrote that incoherent babble of an essay in The Monthly.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:02 pm
Great speech by Romney:

This campaign is about more than replacing a President. It is about saving the soul of America. President Obama and I have two very different visions of America.

…

President Obama’s view of capitalism is to send your money to his friends’ companies. My vision for free enterprise is to return entrepreneurship to the genius and creativity of the American people.

…

President Obama wants to “fundamentally transform” America. We want to restore America to the founding principles that made this country great.

Our plans protect freedom and opportunity, and our blueprint is the Constitution of the United States.

Together, we will build an America where “hope” is a new job with a paycheck, not a faded word on an old bumper sticker.

Awesome, Abbott should be taking notes.

RTWT

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 3:02 pm
Awesome, Abbott should be taking notes.

I’m sure the Marrickville Chihauhau’s staffers were. Coming to a Albo speech soon…

Token

1 Feb 12 at 3:04 pm
Awesome, Abbott should be taking notes.

And read it 6 times a day, just so 30% of it sinks in.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:04 pm
continuing on from the proud tradition of economic illiteracy and stupidity started by her predecessor, the little turd when he wrote that incoherent babble of an essay in The Monthly.

I’m not convinced her predecessor wrote that essay. I suspect it was written by another QLDer.

Peter Patton

1 Feb 12 at 3:12 pm
Romney needs to work on his delivery, he owes it to his speech writer.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 3:13 pm
We’ve heard grand words from Flipper Rommey before.

If it was New York, he’d be trashing Reagan.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 3:18 pm
Romney needs to work on his delivery, he owes it to his speech writer.

Romney needs to work on …. where to start?

Viva

1 Feb 12 at 3:18 pm
Speaking of political expenditures, Thommo is in good (and grateful) hands …

Health union gives ALP $600,000 despite $18m debt.

The Health Services Union shelled out more than $600,000 in political donations to the ALP during 2010/11 despite amassing debts of almost $19 million.

The lion’s share of the cash-strapped union’s donations went to the NSW branch of the Labor Party to the tune of $300, 000.

The federal branch received just over $160, 000 in donations from the former union of the MP Craig Thomson…

The details were revealed as the national secretary of the HSU, Kathy Jackson, called for an immediate inquiry into Fair Work Australia over its investigation into the alleged misconduct of union officials, including Mr Thomson.

She said the investigation – first flagged in 2009 – was taking far too long and raised the explosive possibility of government interference into the process.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 3:21 pm
“…and until I had an issue about one of their candidates I would have donated much more (instead of the liberal party). (it wasn’t Bird).”

Were they a truther?

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 3:22 pm
I’ve heard that one of the candidates was a truther,

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 3:25 pm
No, I really got pissed when they ran a certain woman related to a certain serial killer and saw her in a TV interview promoting gun ownership.

I have no problem with gun ownership, but that really got me upset.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:26 pm
I’ve heard that one of the candidates was a truther,

And of course there’s Sukrit’s association too. This is the guy who suggested there were 16 libertarians in the entire country and the US committed mass murder by dropping the big one on Japan.

He remains silent however on the million people killed in India during the partition.

I didn’t know about the troofer. That’s one more nail.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:29 pm
Yeah, that was dodgy, JC.

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 3:30 pm
I’m not feeling it all. He sounds like he doesn’t believe it, there’s no real sense of authenticity accompanying his words. Not as bad as Gillard but a real sense he is just going through the motions of someone else’s speech.

Credit to the speech writer though.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 3:31 pm
“And of course there’s Sukrit’s association too.”

I thought he despised the LDP as insufficiently libertarian?

Jarrah

1 Feb 12 at 3:32 pm
yeah, that truly was a stupid decision PR-wise

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 3:33 pm
Dream

Lay back an enjoy it. What else can we do. At least I got my kid to register GOP in NY and will be instructing her to vote Newt.

That’s the CAT’s insertion in the US electoral system

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:34 pm
I thought he despised the LDP as insufficiently libertarian?

Isn’t he in the LDP? I thought he was seeing he’s writing crap over at Thoughts.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:35 pm
I think Sukrit left the LDP long ago.

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 3:37 pm
Thoughts on Freedom isn’t affiliated with LDP – though there’s an obvious overlap.

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 3:37 pm
Oh okay. I thought the little jerk was still in the party.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:38 pm
I’m sentimental, I hate seeing first rate political rhetoric drown in a mediocre delivery. Those words in that combination only get one outing.

Unless Albo’s about.

Now I have to read the turgid cliches Dillard has puked out in Melbourne.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 3:44 pm
Sukrit isn’t in the LDP anymore IIRC.

Let the donations flow.

No, I really got pissed when they ran a certain woman related to a certain serial killer and saw her in a TV interview promoting gun ownership.

By marriage. Not a good look but she’s very genuine.

There are bloody truthers everywhere. Thankfully it’s not a core belief unlike da Greens.

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1 Feb 12 at 3:44 pm
I’m not feeling it all. He sounds like he doesn’t believe it, there’s no real sense of authenticity accompanying his words.

You’d have to have a tin ear not to sense that. The only authentic thing to come out of his mouth was some bitchy remarks about Newt being “sad” and “desperate”. It’s the kind of lofty condescension you can afford when you are sitting on squillions of superpac money devoted to trashing your opponent.

Viva

1 Feb 12 at 3:50 pm
Dot:

That was the biggest turnoff ever. I can’t believe they actually did that. Sure it was by marriage and the sins of the brother don’t accrue to the other, but still.

Lol They asked me to run about 6 years back for a senate spot. I can’t imagine how I would have physically held back from punching lights of the beta males in the Green party if by some stroke of luck I got the seat. I would probably have strangled one of them in the corridor.

(I had a good idea for a campaign promise too. I would have donated the 6 years entire salary, not expenses to charity).

JC

1 Feb 12 at 3:50 pm
It’s the kind of lofty condescension you can afford when you are sitting on squillions of superpac money devoted to trashing your opponent.

Rich people make for poor conservatives. Just look at Malcolm Turnbull, he had exactly the same problem in his Parliamentary performances. The only time I really believed he was angry and he came out fighting was when his back was against the wall over Grech. The rest of the time he might have well been playing Monopoly. I’m glad he was moved on.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 3:59 pm
JC’s Teddies are nice again don’t know what it’s to do with but something cute is always cheerful.

Enough with the Betty Boop drag queen act, mate.

Abu Chowdah

1 Feb 12 at 4:15 pm
Ben Pojibe makes a poor lady boy.

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1 Feb 12 at 4:16 pm
Grouchy old Abu! cheer up and look on the sunny side of life and look for the good in people (and Teddies).

candy

1 Feb 12 at 4:25 pm
We can see an opportunity to build a new Australian economy.

And we can see more: an opportunity to build the new economy together, to include every Australian in its growth.

It’s clear from her speech that Gillard thinks the National Broadband Network, carbon tax and subsidies to the car industry are the basis for her new Australian economy.

And this new economy will be more adaptive, flexible and able to seize new opportunities than ever before.

In spite of her new industrial relations regime apparently.

She also states that Australia will push for:

… long term fiscal discipline across the [European] Union …

I’ve been told she no longer has an economic adviser in her office after Kokoulus left. I’d believe that after reading the following:

The best way to ensure the continued vital inward flow of investment is through sound economic institutions and policies. And the one big, ongoing, discretionary decision that reinforces that best – the most powerful single signal a government can give to investors – is a strong and disciplined fiscal framework.

While global conditions make it harder, we are strongly placed to deliver a surplus for 2012-13.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 4:28 pm
Candy

You realize the bear vid isn’t a sweet vid about nice little bears.

A Trader blog use it every time the market goes up and they want to make fun of people losing money on the short side. In fact it’s a horrible nasty vid.

In fact I introduced it to that blog when shorts get their eyeballs ripped out.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:31 pm
The following should have been block quoted:

The best way to ensure the continued vital inward flow of investment is through sound economic institutions and policies. And the one big, ongoing, discretionary decision that reinforces that best – the most powerful single signal a government can give to investors – is a strong and disciplined fiscal framework.

While global conditions make it harder, we are strongly placed to deliver a surplus for 2012-13.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 4:32 pm
And this new economy will be more adaptive, flexible and able to seize new opportunities than ever before.

hahahahahahahahahahaha The dishonest lying slapper re-regulated the labor market to a period before Keating’s reforms.

Here’s what the slapper means by flexibility.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/big-rises-awarded-to-social-and-community-sector-workers-in-equal-pay-ruling/story-fn59noo3-1226259398301

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:33 pm
The Health Services Union shelled out more than $600,000 in political donations to the ALP during 2010/11 despite amassing debts of almost $19 million.

I just find this despicable, offensive and it should be criminal.

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 4:34 pm
The best way …

How about not announcing that overnight you will effectively nationalise 40 per cent of your mining industry?

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 4:35 pm
While global conditions make it harder, we are strongly placed to deliver a surplus for 2012-13.

Abbott and co are going to find the mother of all black holes when this clusterf*ck is all over.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 4:36 pm
ABOUT 150,000 social and community sector workers have won pay rises ranging from 19 to 41 per cent after a historic equal pay decision today.

Um, do they realise job vacancies are down and there has been a net job loss over the last 12 months?

Hello centrelink!

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1 Feb 12 at 4:36 pm
HAHAHAHA!

Ryan Melrose of Baulkham Hills Posted at 1:58 PM Today
Unusual for Fair work Australia to make a conclusion so quickly. If only they could do the same for Thompson enquiry.
Comment 22 of 45

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1 Feb 12 at 4:37 pm
JC I see okay then, it’s not cute.

Got any about bunnies?

candy

1 Feb 12 at 4:37 pm
candy
if you’re really a man what kinda sick fuck are you?

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 4:40 pm
A video tribute, in honour of Mitt’s win in Florida. All sing along now, to the tune of Flipper. Obama must be lying awake at night wondering how he can beat this guy (he has so many options). That’s when he’s not laughing and wondering what did he do to deserve enemies like this klutz.

1080

1 Feb 12 at 4:42 pm
Abbott and co are going to find the mother of all black holes when this clusterf*ck is all over.

They’re padding the books in all sorts of ways and Treasury of course is aiding and abetting this fraud.

Before the conservatives do anything they have to fire all the senior people in Treasury and get their own people in there fast. They also need to audit the budget perhaps by bringing in an outside group to review the government auditors (you can’t trust any of them).

They need to find the hole as soon as they win government so the public is aware of what these fraudsters were up to and then mercilessly pin it on them.

If there is any deviation from GAP (government) they need to charge the fuckers and let the court decide. There should be no mercy.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:44 pm
The Gillard economic agenda:

It is an ambitious goal, and to deliver it, the Government will pursue an ambitious program of investments and reforms in 2012.

We will roll out fibre for high speed broadband to over sixty sites across the country.

Twenty thousand more students will start university this year than last, up by a fifth since we came to office.

We will hand down a Budget surplus in May.

Carbon pricing will start on 1 July – driving change in energy use, funding innovation in clean energy and help for households.

The minerals resource rents tax will start on 1 July as well.

Funding tax cuts for small businesses and over time funding cuts for all businesses, higher super for all workers and new infrastructure in the regions.

New business tax arrangements to reward innovation will be the subject of extensive work by the Business Tax Working Group leading to a final report on the future of the business tax system in December.

And through 2012, a new approach to collaborating with industry will be taking shape: through the new portfolio of Industry and Innovation – allied to the structural transition funding in the Clean Energy Future package – and the work of my own Manufacturing taskforce.

These are big milestones on the reform road this year – policies which lift productivity and build the new economy.

FMD

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 4:44 pm
I’m still backing Romney unlike the fairweather friend JC but this is pretty funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4

jtfsoon

1 Feb 12 at 4:45 pm
“Abbott and co are going to find the mother of all black holes when this clusterf*ck is all over.”

And then the Labor crowd will point at Abbott’s first year deficit and insist it’s his black hole…. they have form on this sort of thing

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 4:46 pm
These are big milestones on the reform road this year – policies which lift productivity and build the new economy.

FMD

lol. So she’s redefining productivity to mean tax increases?

This can only come from a former Slater & Gordon ambulance chaser.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:47 pm
I’m still backing Romney unlike the fairweather friend

JC but this is pretty funny

What a low low blow . LOl

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:48 pm
They also need to audit the budget perhaps by bringing in an outside group to review the government auditors (you can’t trust any of them).

I agree, the AG and his senior staff need to be shot from a cannon for letting this mob cook the books the way they have.

Token

1 Feb 12 at 4:48 pm
“Before the conservatives do anything they have to fire all the senior people in Treasury and get their own people in there fast”

Abbott should be hinting at criminal proceeding for Treasury officials who are found to have assisted in such activities.

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 4:49 pm
And then the Labor crowd will point at Abbott’s first year deficit and insist it’s his black hole…. they have form on this sort of thing

They will try but it can be easily thwarted if they play their cards right. Big if for the Coalition as always.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:49 pm
1000th comment?

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 4:51 pm
Get Henry Ergas is as relieving treasury secretary over the period time of review and audit and offers a period while the coalition goes searching for a permanent guy.

Henry would be able to smell the skunks in the budget from 100 miles away.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 4:54 pm
Unusual for Fair work Australia to make a conclusion so quickly.

It still took them two years, FFS…

Rabz

1 Feb 12 at 4:57 pm
A video tribute for Newt, from Chris Matthews in honour of his decision to fight on to the convention. “All hell is gunna break loose” as Newt rains righteous justice down on Mitt. Make that jumbo popcorn. Can these primaries never stop, please.

1080

1 Feb 12 at 4:59 pm
I really got pissed when they ran a certain woman related to a certain serial killer and saw her in a TV interview promoting gun ownership.

I made the same point one, respectfully, on Thoughts on Freedom. Suggested it probably wasn’t the best PR idea to have her as their gun ownership spokeswoman, particularly when she didn’t come across as particularly articulate on that (admittedly hostile and dissected by the Chaser) interview.

I copped an absolute bollocking from David Leyonhjelm for daring to give them some respectuful advice – a real JC style ad-hominem, but with less wit. Gotta say it put me off the LDP a little, even if they are pretty much bang on with my political views.

papachango

1 Feb 12 at 5:00 pm
Chris Matthews.

Ahahahahaha.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 5:02 pm
thgis dude is a pretty decent reired market economist who worked for one of the big US mutual fund groups.

This chart nicely illustrates just how weak the current recovery has been—it’s actually unprecedented. According to my calculations, there is a 13% “gap” between the current size of the economy and where it would be if it were following its long-term trend growth rate (3.07% compound annual growth, which breaks down on average into 1% annual growth in the workforce and 2% annual increases in productivity). The current output gap is equivalent to lost income of $1.75 trillion, and that’s inextricably bound up with the fact that there ought to be at least 10 million more jobs today if the economy were on its long-term trend growth track.

The precise cause of this huge output gap will be the subject of discussion among economists for years, but most of the evidence I see points to the highly unusual expansion of government spending (mostly in the form of transfer payments) over this same period as the leading culprit. Since 2008, federal payments to individuals as a % of GDP have increased by at least one-third, to their highest level ever. Income redistribution on a massive scale like this can not only fail to create growth, it can stymie growth by creating perverse incentives (e.g., rewarding the lack of work and punishing success).

One thing about today’s fourth quarter GDP report that caught my eye was the relatively weak growth (3.2%) in nominal GDP, which was entirely due to sharply lower inflation. This can be traced to the same decline in inflation that shows up in the CPI and the PCE deflator over the same period, and which, in turn, was mostly a function of a decline in energy prices, which have since stabilized. As the chart above shows, real growth has been accelerating for the past three quarters, so it’s not unreasonable to think that nominal GDP will accelerate in the current quarter, as I suspect it will. Faster nominal GDP growth would also be consistent with a decline in money demand, a phenomenon which I think will be driven by the lessening of concerns over the Eurozone financial crisis. Of course, even if we do get an acceleration in nominal GDP this year, the output gap will likely remain large. Faster nominal GDP is good for corporate cash flows and debtors, but it is not necessarily a big job-creator. For more jobs we need less government and better and permanent after-tax incentives to work and invest (e.g., a simpler and flatter tax code) for individuals as well as corporations.

go read it all here.

http://scottgrannis.blogspot.com.au/

I reckon he gives one of the best market economics anlaysis out there and should be on everyone’s favs.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 5:02 pm
“Obama must be lying awake at night wondering how he can beat this guy (he has so many options).”

I don’t think Obama’s at all worried. We know he no longer wants the job so it’s probably a relief to him to know that his loss will feel quick and painless.

Alex Pundit

1 Feb 12 at 5:03 pm
Kathy Jackson has come out with a hard hitting doorstop challenging Labor ministers to stand with her to demand why it has taken three years to decide whether the Thompson matter be referred to the DPP.

Shorten says the government cant put pressure on Fair Work as it is an independent body. LOL he knows they don’t have to apply pressure – the Fair Work branch of the alliance know what they are expected to do.

Viva

1 Feb 12 at 5:05 pm
Opposition ‘too cheap’ to meet pokies victim.

THE federal opposition has declined to fork out a few hundred dollars so an Adelaide-based problem gambler can travel to Canberra to meet the coalition taskforce devising its gambling policy…

Julie Karpathakis, a divorced mother from Adelaide, was invited by the opposition to travel to Canberra to meet the taskforce and share her experiences as a reformed problem gambler who now runs a pokies counselling group…

Ms Karpathakis told AAP today she could not afford flights to Canberra and was still playing catch up on the money she owed.

“It’s pretty poor form, it’s not good enough. They refused to pay for my flights,” she said.

Tim Costello is paid a small fortune. Why can’t he pony up for a ticket?

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 5:06 pm
“It’s pretty poor form, it’s not good enough. They refused to pay for my flights,” she said.

Ever heard of Skype, luv?

Gab

1 Feb 12 at 5:07 pm
Farmers with the skills to trade carbon credits. Plumbers with the skills to transform the energy and water efficiency of our factories and our homes.

Panel beaters with the skills to work in the new supply chains for global manufacturing. Medical professionals with the skills to diagnose and prescribe on-line.

And flying monkeys that shoot rainbows out their eyes that cure the world of all its hatreds.

I’m sure the staff at the Oz are rolling around on the floor laughing at this speech. Or at least I hope they are.

Then Gillard announced that at some point she will unveil a HECS-style scheme for VET. Yawn.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 5:08 pm
Carbon farmers!

LOL.

The country’s in the very best of hands.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 5:14 pm
NGD,

Gillard reminded me of this:

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/Pictures/web/k/h/c/Ou_462.jpg

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1 Feb 12 at 5:15 pm
Great article on the USSR BTW

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/commentanalysis/charles-orton-jones-why-the-ussr-lost-the-cold-war/1338.article

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1 Feb 12 at 5:15 pm
We truly are a marvellous country.

Nick Wankathon calls on the ACCC to investigate cheap fruit and veg.

Fuck me sideways with a piano.

Infidel Tiger

1 Feb 12 at 5:18 pm
Note for 1080 and other associated drooling morons:

25 Lying

A Latvian wood pulp factory manager who’d run the plant for thirty years told me in the late-Nineties: “Under socialism we had three truths. There was the official truth, which was falsehoods. There was the factory truth, which we used to run the plant. And there was the real truth, which we didn’t ever dare speak of.”

Glavlit, the Soviet censorship body employed 70,000 staff. According to Robert Conquest, Glavlit was “concerned not merely to eliminate incorrect facts and promote correct falsehood, but also to ensure that the correct political spin was put on every item”.

The supreme truth of Marxism-Leninism trumped morality and reality. The purges were denied, executed officials declared “unpersons” and airbrushed from photos, production figures falsified.

The lies made the economy impossible to plan. Many in the West fell for the great deception. When Robert Conquest revealed the scale of the purges in 1968 in The Great Terror, he chastised left-wing intellectuals, such as Satre, George Bernard Shaw and Beatrice and Sidney Webb (who founded the London School of Economics) for their refusal to acknowledge the horrors of the 1930s. Decades later, when new files confirmed his grim findings, Conquest was asked by his publisher to write a revised version with a new title. He suggested I told you so you fucking fools.

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1 Feb 12 at 5:19 pm
If we want people to keep farming in Australia, we’ve got to make sure there’s a level playing field.

FFS what we have to do is cut red fucking tape.

Farmers can be efficient, if we let them. A floor price will just encourage waste like the old dairy industry.

Applying Say’s law to regions with artificially low productivity makes you realise it eventually just destroys many other business in the community – especially in banking and so on.

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1 Feb 12 at 5:22 pm
“It’s pretty poor form, it’s not good enough. They refused to pay for my flights,” she said.

lol… exactly the sort of people we should be taking advice from, eh?

No wonder she had a gambling problem… with such a sense of entitlement, she probably figured she was destined to win – and naturally blames the owners of the pokies for not giving her money.

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 5:22 pm
As Ayn Rand said about anti-trust laws – if companies are cheaper than the competition they’re guilty of predatory pricing, if they’re more expensive they’re guilty of misusing market power, if they’re the same price they’re guilty of collusin. They simply can’t win against a determined big government.

papachango

1 Feb 12 at 5:23 pm
‘collusion’ not ‘collusin’ … dagnabbit

papachango

1 Feb 12 at 5:24 pm
No wonder she had a gambling problem… with such a sense of entitlement, she probably figured she was destined to win

HAHA! What an appalling combo. A punt drunk loser with a sense of entitlement.

Infidel Tiger

1 Feb 12 at 5:27 pm
We know he no longer wants the job

What do you mean “we” paleface? His SOTU sounded like it was put together by someone hell bent on winning. He is gunna do politically to Mitt (or whomever) what he did literally to Sammy bin Leaded. Four more years, with nothing to lose after that. Bring it on.

1080

1 Feb 12 at 5:30 pm
Is it just me or does the open thread now load slower than an Australian wharfie in WW2?

Infidel Tiger

1 Feb 12 at 5:30 pm
That’s because it’s got 1000+ comments. Still, I prefer it to blogs that have multiple pages (e.g BoltA), which are bloody annoyiong to find your previous comments.

papachango

1 Feb 12 at 5:33 pm
He is gunna do politically to Mitt (or whomever) what he did literally to Sammy bin Leaded

Secretly worship him and then use him as a political pawn? What a weird strategy.

Infidel Tiger

1 Feb 12 at 5:33 pm
Always seems to slow down around 1000+ comments. There should be two open threads a week.

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 5:34 pm
Or better yet, a collapsible thread-like structure to comments… Maybe we need a Cat bulletin board instead.

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 5:35 pm
“His SOTU sounded like it was put together by someone hell bent on winning.”

Having Bill Clinton give a press conference while you run off to Chrissy Dinner is a bigger indication that you want out then in.

You’re obviously not American because nobody I’ve met whilst over there the past two years has your enthusiasm.

Alex Pundit

1 Feb 12 at 5:42 pm
You’re obviously not American because nobody I’ve met whilst over there the past two years has your enthusiasm.

I’m actually not that enthusiastic Alex, I just love to wind up the those here suffering Obama Derangement Syndrome, especially thems that have been predicting since forever that he was a hated, no good, worst Prez ever bum, sure to be kicked out. That said, he is clearly the adult in the room with either Nit or Mute. And there is a good chance he’d feel freer to move second term. Plus there are those all important Supreme Court vacancies to ~~fill~~ stack. He’s done more than enough to be re-elected, had a strongish first term, could end up being one of the greats.

1080

1 Feb 12 at 5:53 pm
Wayne:

The fridge please. Stop boring everyone shitless.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 5:56 pm
had a strongish first term, could end up being one of the greats.

Halve the dosage tripper.

Infidel Tiger

1 Feb 12 at 5:57 pm
I reckon he gives one of the best market economics anlaysis out there and should be on everyone’s favs.

Tell me, does he understand that full employment + rising income + rising disposable income + cheap credit + manageable inflation = rising living standards? That has become my baseline standard for economic competence in light of your recent contributions.

1080

1 Feb 12 at 5:58 pm
To repeat:

Wayne:

The fridge please. Stop boring everyone shitless.

JC

1 Feb 12 at 6:00 pm
*groan*

Palin hate continues with latest hit-piece, in form of HBO film, Game Change

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 6:12 pm
To repeat:

Wayne:

You repeat that name so often I bet you scream it out loud in the throes of passion: “Oh, wayne yes, yes, more. oh yeah, just like that, wayne, wayne, again, oh don’t stop baby, oh wayne.”

Just two questions: DOes it upset your wife, or are you two into kinky fantasies? And what happened to your other two imaginary friends?

1080

1 Feb 12 at 6:15 pm
“South Tampa Twins’ Fear Factor Episode Pulled over Donkey Semen Stunt”

There is no word on whether the episode, which required contestants to drink glasses filled with donkey semen and urine, will ever air, Deggans writes.

“We feel no animals were harmed during the stunt, and it is known that animal semen is consumed in parts of the world like Australia and New Zealand,” Brynne Odioso told Patch.

Suspect this is bad for Australia’s image. I know they do it in New Zealand, never heard of it here though.

New Gold Dream

1 Feb 12 at 6:28 pm
He’s done more than enough to be re-elected, had a strongish first term, could end up being one of the greats.

Barack Obama is going to be “one of the greats”?

The same president who presided over the greatest federal and state landslide against his party in nearly a century.

BWwhahaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

You also think the Tea Party and Rush Limbaugh run the Republican party and don’t like Chris Christie.

-1 / 10 for your current troll activity improve.

twostix

1 Feb 12 at 6:31 pm
Oone would think if you’ve gambled your house away and your children’s financial futures you’d have tremendous personal shame and keep a low profile.

candy

1 Feb 12 at 6:35 pm
it is known that animal semen is consumed in parts of the world like Australia

Could explain a lot. JC, you and “wayne” been on the donkey jizz again?

1080

1 Feb 12 at 6:38 pm
“had a strongish first term, could end up being one of the greats.”

Halve the dosage tripper.
And double the voltage…

Winston Smith

1 Feb 12 at 6:44 pm
Gallop’s 2011 summary: Obama hated in 40 states.

C.L.

1 Feb 12 at 6:46 pm
1080 – no. please none of that.

Sinclair Davidson

1 Feb 12 at 6:47 pm
I have opened up a midweek open forum as an experiment.

Sinclair Davidson

1 Feb 12 at 6:48 pm
I have opened up a midweek open forum as an experiment.

’bout time

Fleeced

1 Feb 12 at 10:59 pm

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