Open Forum: March 31, 2012 at Catallaxy Files

Open Forum: March 31, 2012

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Sometimes I’m right, but I can be wrong…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 12:02 am
Racists.

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 12:06 am
Yo!

Speakin’ scientifically

Tim’s da mana!

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:07 am
How predictable is the goose? Of course, it is those three evil tax dodging miners that are ruining the pursuit of surplus! Oh and the foreign owned ones too. And dirty big business too. When I was a kid, clowns used to wear curly red wigs and big red wigs. Now they wear suits in Canberra…

Skuter

31 Mar 12 at 12:09 am
“This is a horrible piece of legislation — as misbegotten and useless to its friends as it is menacing to its enemies. The question is: why? Why did the blues write such a bad law? Why, given a once in a lifetime chance to pass a program that Dems have longed to achieve ever since the New Deal, did they craft a sloppy mess that nobody understands and few admire, and then leave their law so unnecessarily vulnerable to constitutional challenge?”

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 12:10 am
Heh.

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 12:13 am
People are the same, whatever we do…

Especially when we wanna dance to the music!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 12:13 am
Gab
Travelling could be partly the reason I write how I do as it does change my accent especially if I have just travelled from overseas. Actually thinking about it for a bit it probably does change how I write and often I have to edit what I have written to fill in all the words that should be there rather than broken english. It might also change the order I write a sentence. Eg Kun JC mi tang mark. which translates as Person JC has money a lot. U is pronounced oo and I is pronounced ee and A is pronounced u as in hut.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:21 am
Pang pai! lol

No worries, Kelly. Why do you keep saying “broken english”? Is english your second language?

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:24 am
why? Why did the blues write such a bad law? Why, given a once in a lifetime chance to pass a program that Dems have longed to achieve ever since the New Deal, did they craft a sloppy mess that nobody understands and few admire, and then leave their law so unnecessarily vulnerable to constitutional challenge?”

Because they’re as dumb as dogsh*t?

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 12:25 am
No but if you talk to someone who doesn’t speak english then is easier to use only the important words.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:28 am
Ah, very true. I was like that when I returned from China, Kelly. And also when I used to work with a bunch of Italians who spoke broken English, and I broken Italian.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:32 am
Swan wrongly accuses…

Wayne Swan on ABC 702 yesterday responding to our front-page story, “Swan taps miners for surplus”:

I WAS pretty stunned when I saw The Australian’s story this morning because they didn’t bother to call my office about that story . . . They’ve conflated two stories, didn’t talk to my office . . . the fact is, that story wasn’t checked with my office.

Oh, that call. Swan’s flack Matthew Coghlan in an email to The Australian yesterday:

THE Treasurer made comments on 702 this morning to the effect that our office was not contacted about your story on the front page today. He made those comments on the basis of incorrect information provided to him. He acknowledges that those comments were incorrect and apologises for them unreservedly . . . Apologies again.

Oops. Cut & Paste.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:34 am
bunch of Italians who spoke broken English, and I broken Italian.

There is a problem with this though because it is like saying googoo gaagaa to a baby it doesn’t help them much.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:34 am
Slow Joe Biden Blames High Unemployment on ‘This God-Awful Recession We’ve Inherited’

According to the non-partisan National Bureau of Economic Research, the last recession began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009—just five months into President Barack Obama’s term in office.

In the 33 months since the recession ended, according to the NBER, the U.S. economy has been in a period of expansion. One of the current members of the NBER committee that determines when recessions begin and end is Christina Romer, who formerly served as chairperson of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers.

(Less than two weeks before Obama took office in 2009, Romer published a report saying Obama’s stimulus plan, if enacted, would keep unemployment under 8 percent.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:37 am
I disagree, Kel. I tried on numerous occasions to speak with them in fluent English. It didn’t work. (I learnt quite a bit about swearing in Italian as result). So with hands flailing like Gillard in a hailstorm,plus a few English words, a few Italian words, we understood.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:39 am
Paul Krugman NYT: Broccoli and Bad Faith

Let’s start with the already famous exchange in which Justice Antonin Scalia compared the purchase of health insurance to the purchase of broccoli, with the implication that if the government can compel you to do the former, it can also compel you to do the latter. That comparison horrified health care experts all across America because health insurance is nothing like broccoli.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:40 am
In the 33 months since the recession ended, according to the NBER, the U.S. economy has been in a period of expansion.

It probably has with inflation and population growth but the majority of people are poorer in real terms.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:41 am
Gab
It is a long term thing, you and the Italians will not progress with your language skills but practicalities say this is too much effort.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:43 am
“They walked through a crowd of Americans on their way to pass that travesty of a 1,000 page monstrosity, braying their laughter. Nancy showed off the big gavel she was going to use to pound ObamaCare onto the heads of all Americans, Constitution be damned.

“Not laughing now, are they?”

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 12:44 am
Kelly, chill. It was a few years ago and a work situation.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:46 am
I’m chilled.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:47 am
Six shot, one dead in Bobby Rush’s district tonight

Guess what the shooters were wearing?

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 12:48 am
Guess what the shooters were wearing?

Without checking – Obama sanctioned hoodies?

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:50 am
Iq49 sez:

You are using terms you have not defined in any meaningful way. This is not the ‘black and white’ situation your terminology imposes on your thinking, which is why you are making no real sense. It is all shades of grey.

LOL.

Outside the Media Studies department at Macquarie Uni and the senior ranks of the Commonwealth Public Service, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who uses as much obfuscatory terminology as 49 does.

Les Majesty

31 Mar 12 at 12:50 am
Erik Erikson hits it outa da park:

Sinners In the Hands of Anthony Kennedy
The left cries foul as the right uses the federal courts to do as the left has done for years.

But liberal legal scholars so stunned at Justice Kennedy’s point favor a constitution where the public must hire them and their brethren to bow before men and women in black robes offering up prayers and petitions that our black robed masters divine from the text of the constitution some new right or government power no man on the street can see.

We have complicated our tax code, our regulations, and our legal system. In each we must now pay self-appointed experts trained in the art of gobbledegook to parse words, divine intent, and lobby for exceptions that prove rules.

Our nation is no longer a nation of laws, but a nation of elites who interpret those laws for us. It has all led to a very logical place.

In placing our constitution in the hands of a black robed elite who can divine from thin air powers, rights, and duties neither contemplated nor easily extrapolated from the constitution, our republic has become a kingdom. Our king is Anthony Kennedy. Every argument advanced is advanced with him in mind. On every major issue he is the decisive vote.

Put bluntly, the constitutional integrity of our republic has been ceded to one man in the third branch of our federal government. It makes him more powerful than the democratically elected Congress and President. It is not a sign that our system is too partisan. It is a sign that our system is broken in a fundamental way.

But the dirty little secret is that while legal experts and scholars may agree the system is broken, they only think so when Anthony Kennedy disagrees with them.

RTWT

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:51 am
Guess what the shooters were wearing?

Keffiyehs?

P.S. Done quickly, haven’t read the ‘piece’…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 12:52 am
Guess what the shooters were wearing?

Slipper regardless of what you might think of him would have kicked the congressman out.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 12:53 am
Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) a former Black Panther

Blacks killing blacks?

Who gives a rodent’s backsayeedah?

We need waaaaacists, allahdammit!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 12:57 am
I think American conservatives and libertarians ought to save the victory lap for an actual Supreme Court victory on Obamacare or they’ll be the ones beclowned.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 12:58 am
That Justice Kennedy is an annoying cocksucker. All dumb people are. What a waste of oxygen all those folks who have to suck him off to get his fricking ‘swing’ vote. Who appointed the sanctimonious airhead? Whenever I hear a judge bang on about ‘liberty’, I reach for my AK-47.

Peter Patton

31 Mar 12 at 12:59 am
Bill Leak on the ALP’s coalition allies.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 1:02 am
Obama’s anti-semite hero and role model in the news:

Jeremiah Wright Leads ‘Global March to Jerusalem’ – Protesters Throw Firebombs & Rocks at Police (Video).

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 1:08 am
Bill Leak (PBUH) on the ~~ALP’s coalition allies~~ lunatics ruining our lives and what they have planned for us.

F*cking hippy scum.

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 1:09 am
Rabz, who is that ugly chick in need of a shave?

DrBeauGan

31 Mar 12 at 1:11 am
I think American conservatives and libertarians ought to save the victory lap for an actual Supreme Court victory on Obamacare or they’ll be the ones beclowned.

Yes, wise advice. I’m concerned that their Justices are getting caught up in the details of what can or cannot be repealed and how difficult it would be to lop of some parts of the Act but not others. Their brief is to determine if ‘Obamacare’ is unconstitutional or not. that is all.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 1:17 am
Bill Leak on the ALP’s coalition allies.

Strike a light. His Sarah Hanson-Young is one of the creepiest things I’ve seen.

Infidel Tiger

31 Mar 12 at 1:20 am
Bill Hayden: the ALP is basically finished.

Hayden fears Labor’s time has passed.

BILL Hayden was the last man standing when Labor crashed in Queensland at the 1975 federal election. Now the former ALP leader and governor-general has declared that Australia’s oldest political party may have “had its time”.

———————————-

By the way, Bill: that’s a nice office you’ve got there in Brisbane and you seem very casually dressed for the ‘work’ you’re doing in the office.

Um, what exactly do yoy do there and why are we paying for it?

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 3:58 am
♬ ♪ ♫ ♬ ♪ MOOOOO-CHELLE, MA BELLE… ♬ ♪ ♫ ♬ ♪

Now she’s giving off a “cling to your ankle and not let you walk out the door” vibe that is so creepy one can almost smell Axelrod’s mustache sweat behind it.

Just…stop.

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 5:07 am
BBC World Have Your Say programme on BBC World channel is reporting that “black” Trayvon Martin was killed by “white” George Zimmerman.

Oh come on

31 Mar 12 at 5:24 am
I’m trying to find a link for this but the website updates once in a blue moon. Their last report was from February.

Oh come on

31 Mar 12 at 5:28 am
The Left’s beloved hysteria contunues unabated

L.A. Times: California lawmakers don hoodies in honor of slain teen

“God help us if, in the United States, wearing a hoodie warrants capital punishment,” Wright said. “Wearing a hoodie is not a crime.”

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 7:56 am
Kelly Liddle:

No Mk50 you make a claim you explain what you claim is. I have not made any claim. If you can’t tell us what your definition is when you make a wild claim like 19000 terrorist attacks how are we ever to trust you again?

FFS Kelly, do not be thick, use your the ‘media definition of terrorist acts’, then act surprised when you do not like the numbers. And claims? No. Just stating facts.

Yes, there have been in excess of 19,000 ‘terrorist’acts’ (MSM definition) since 11 Sept 2001. I showed you a site which runs a similar but inferior data report trawl program to ours. Even that site has well over 18,000 such incidents.

Pick a small set (say 100 of their most recent ones) and start googling. That way you can validate the correctness or otherwise of their data by finding the media reports they trawl.

The trawl programs look for specific words in specific combinations. Looking at those word trees, I would term our raw data ‘acts of islamist violence’ qualified by ‘with lethal intent or outcome’. Once again, that’s why we don’t use the terms ‘terrorist’ or ‘jihadist’ very much, and only with specified meaning (their original ones). We actually use their definitions.

After all, in the world-view of an islamist, what is occurring is a war of religion. So we use their terms and such.

In the west, few people know how to think in terms of a ‘war of religion’.

We outgrew them in 1648 with the Treaty of Westphalia,

To use your apparent definition (which is also the media definition such as it is) I would rate all 19,000+ acts as ‘terrorism’ by the populist MSM ‘definition’ such as it is.

We break it down a lot further than that into a bunch of sub-categories using different definitions. That’s all.

For further example, we estimate FGM numbers. Each time a female is genitally mutilated, that’s an act of violence (under the definition of violence). Each act has a ‘religious justification’ (for a certain value of religion). Each act is designed within a context of a violent outcome (repression of females) again with a ‘religious justification’ (for a certain value of religion).

The results are interesting, and quite damning of Middle eastern and African islam. it mans you can see how wildly different the four ‘islamic worlds’ are, and track an ‘internal reconquest effort’ currently underway.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 7:59 am
That other national Dem leader….If we don’t get the result we want on Trayvon Martin case……..

The Dems threats are never subtle

Pelosi: If Justice System Probe of Trayvon Martin Death ‘Doesn’t Seem to be Working’ ‘Other Options’ Should Be Considered

“I think that’s an issue in the justice system, and if that doesn’t seem to be working then consider some other options, but I’m pleased that the investigation is going forward.”

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:01 am
Krauthammer, Wa-Po: The ‘flexibility’ doctrine

You don’t often hear an American president secretly (he thinks) assuring foreign leaders that concessions are coming their way, but they must wait because he’s seeking reelection and he dares not tell his own people.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:03 am
Les the racist kiddie:

obfuscatory terminology

Poor diddums.

unable to comprehend complex issues, eh?

You racist turd, we already knew you were a simpleton. Left-wing racists always are. But thanks for admitting it in public.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 8:07 am
WSJ: Where’s an Open Mic When We Really Need It?

Obama was admitting his distrust of his fellow Americans to a leader of a nasty government that seeks to thwart our purposes.

When President Obama blurted out to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he couldn’t do serious business during an election year, the New York Times characterized it as a “moment of political candor.” It seems to me, actually, to be a moment of political contempt—for the issues at hand as well as for the demos itself. ….

But really the message, the important one, concerns us, here in America. It is that the American people can’t be trusted if the president is honest with them about what he proposes. More bluntly, that the American people are not trusted by their own president. Otherwise the president would tell us the truth about his intentions. And here he is, admitting his distrust of his own people to a leader of a nasty foreign government that seeks to thwart our purposes in the Middle East and elsewhere. President Obama is in cahoots with the Russian regime against America’s very body politic.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:09 am
WSJ, John Yoo: What Conservative Legal Revolution?

A 5-4 ruling against ObamaCare is the least Republicans should expect given the number of justices they’ve been able to appoint.

Overturning ObamaCare by a mere 5-4 margin would show the tenuousness of the 40-year conservative campaign to alter the Supreme Court. In the four decades since Richard Nixon first made the Supreme Court a campaign issue, Republicans have controlled the White House for seven presidential terms and Democrats for only four. Yet conservatives and liberals can claim four seats each on the court, with Anthony Kennedy happily floating about in the middle.

Republican presidents nominated justices such as Harry Blackmun, John Paul Stevens and David Souter, who became dependable liberal votes. Democrats have yet to make a similar mistake.

As a result, the conservative revolution in constitutional law has fizzled. The court has reaffirmed the right to abortion, intervened in wartime military decisions, upheld distortions of the separation of powers such as the independent counsel statute, and barely nibbled at the outer reaches of the New Deal expansion of federal power over the states.

While the high court has not conjured forth as many new constitutional rights as it once did, it may soon impose gay marriage on the country when it gets the case of Perry v. Brown. Only in the area of criminal procedure, where the solid liberal bloc sometimes suffers defections, has the court seriously rebalanced constitutional law.

The winner of this November’s presidential election may enjoy the chance to appoint three new Justices. By the end of the next president’s term in 2016, Ruth Bader Ginsburg will be 83, Antonin Scalia and Justice Kennedy will turn 80, and Stephen Breyer will be 78.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:14 am
The Left destroy everything they gain control of:

Study: Trust in science among educated conservatives plunges

Conservatives, particularly those with college educations, have become dramatically more skeptical of science over the past four decades, according to a study published in the April issue of the American Sociological Review. Fewer than 35 percent of conservatives say they have a “great deal” of trust in the scientific community now, compared to nearly half in 1974…….

In fact, in 1974, people who identified as conservatives were among the most confident in science as an institution, with liberals trailing slightly behind, and moderates bringing up the rear. Liberals have remained fairly steady in their opinion of the scientific community over the interim, while conservative trust in science has plummeted.

Interestingly, the most educated conservatives have led that charge. Conservatives with college degrees began distrusting science earlier and more forcefully than other conservatives, upending assumptions that less educated people on the whole are more distrustful of science.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:20 am
Court orders Egypt to ban porn websites to protect its ‘society and values’

An Egyptian court has ordered the government to ban pornographic websites in order to protect society and its values.
The decision and a similar initiative in parliament has fed into fears by liberal and secular Egyptians that their country is moving down the path to fundamentalist Islam, following a sweeping victory by Islamists in parliamentary elections.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:37 am
Mk50
So we have worked out just about anything can be a terrorist attack as the MSM will just repeat what an army or government says and they love to throw the word terrorism around. I suppose you will now tell me that islamic terrorist attack does not have to have anything to do with islam and only has to be perpetrated by a muslim then we can come up with your really large number.

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 8:37 am
Egypt’s liberals walk out, leaving Islamists to write a constitution

A process that was supposed to be one of the crowning achievements of Egypt’s uprising — the writing of a new constitution — began today amid controversy over the heavily Islamist makeup of the assembly chosen to craft the document.

A quarter of the 100-member constituent assembly did not attend the first session today, including about 20 mostly liberals and leftist figures who resigned from the body in protest (the reason for the other absences wasn’t immediately clear). They complained that the Muslim Brotherhood’s party, along with the ultraconservative Islamist Nour Party, rushed the assembly’s election process to push through their own candidates, resulting in an Islamist-dominated assembly they say does not adequately represent minority groups and political ideologies.

The constitution will help determine how democratic the new Egypt will be, in part by outlining the balance between the powers of the presidency and Parliament

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:40 am
An Egyptian court has ordered the government to ban pornographic websites in order to protect society and its values.

James
No different to when we had K Rudd as PM so what?

kelly liddle

31 Mar 12 at 8:41 am
Chicagoland: Men in Hoodies Open Fire in Convenience Store; One Dead, Five Wounded

If you’re keeping count, that’s 13 people shot and two dead. Barack Obama was unavailable for comment.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:43 am
No different to when we had K Rudd as PM so what?

Just more evidece that yjer Arab spring for our leftists is gonna be along bitter winter 9n reality.

That’s always the result of leftists gettinng their way.

Apparently 1979 and jimmy Carter’s stupidity needs to be repeated a generation later.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:45 am
Corner, NRO: Sherlock Holmes Meets Occam’s Razor

“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth,” said Sherlock Holmes. The recent three-day intellectual demolition of Obamacare at the Supreme Court exposed to even the most obtuse lefty the flimsy constitutional underpinnings of the so-called “health care” law. The Patient Deflection and Unaffordable Care Act is now well on its way to zombie status, still staggering around in the form of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, knocking things off shelves and making growling sounds in the direction of religious folk, just waiting for the head shot from the Roberts Court to put it out of its misery.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:49 am
PM David Cameron in The Telegraph:
Brick by brick, we’re tearing down the big state

But there is more to do if we are to realise our vision of truly open public services. So today, as we publish our update to the White Paper, we are taking three new, radical steps. First, we are announcing an independent review,,,,,,,

Second, we are publishing draft legislation that would enshrine in law the right to choice…….

Third, we are going to consult on making it easier to set up neighbourhood councils…..

Steady on David, ‘ol chap.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:55 am
I think American conservatives and libertarians ought to save the victory lap for an actual Supreme Court victory on Obamacare or they’ll be the ones beclowned.

Indeed. I was thinking this myself. Given the voting record of the justices in past cases, i.e. Stenberg v. Carhart, and so on, nothing at all would surprise me.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 9:24 am
Hey JamesK: even Bolt is giving the SVO (Sweater Vested One) a hard time, wondering what could have been the “n”word he nearly said with respect to Obama.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 9:27 am
Hey fuvckwit, Bolt never stopped giving the SVO (Sweater Vested One) a hard time.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 9:33 am
Indeed. I was thinking this myself. Given the voting record of the justices in past cases, i.e. Stenberg v. Carhart, and so on, nothing at all would surprise me.

I agree d-b.

Still you have to laugh with that NRO Corner post, I linked.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 9:35 am
Tedious use of “fuvckwit” again by JamesK: maybe it’s mild Tourette’s you need to treat yourself for.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 9:36 am
Actually, JamesK did something useful for once – the link to Paul Krugman’s column on health care was to a pretty good bit of commentary.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 9:39 am
Paul Krugman’s column on health care was to a pretty good bit of commentary.

So far as the non-discerning reader is concerned.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 9:44 am
Rush Limabugh: An E-Mail from My Friend Who’s Not Thrilled About Mitt Romney

“I got a fascinating e-mail from a friend of mine last night. I want to share this with you. My friend’s heart and mind are the biggest and most generous you’ll ever find, and he’s totally, totally immersed in saving the country. He is dumbfounded and saddened that it appears Romney will be the Republican nominee. I’m not gonna tell you who he is. You wouldn’t know. He’s not a famous person. I want to read you his note to me:”

Well, looks like Romney, so I wish us much luck. Look at what happened. The Tea Party rises up, the Tea Party delivers the House of Representatives to the GOP, the Tea Party nearly takes out the Democrat Senate in 2010, and our nominee is gonna be a former RINO governor of Massachusetts who invented Romneycare. Rush, this could be ugly. And if Romney wins, the best we can say is he’s not Obama. Which is important, but it’s not enough to stem the tide of big government disaster. So the establishment’s gonna win again. If Romney loses, which is possible, then everybody who has been trying to warn people about Romney are gonna be blamed for not getting behind him sooner. Like the left, the establishment Republicans can never admit responsibility for their own handiwork. We’re all gonna be good soldiers, and we’ll fight for our nominee even though they don’t ever fight for ours. The Tea Party made this chance possible.

The Tea Party did everything, and we get a RINO?

George Romney was a disaster. He was successfully blocked by conservatives. Mitt’s no different. Mitt Romney is like Nixon. I can’t name three serious conservative things he’s ever done. I look at these endorsements. Bill Weld, Massachusetts, the Bush family, McCain, every Washington insider and former Republican politician. And they didn’t do one thing to deliver the House to the Republicans. They didn’t do one thing to help nearly take out the Senate, the Democrat Senate in 2010, they didn’t do one thing. They sit there and they take all the spoils, but they didn’t do one thing to help. Scary.

The reason that we’ve had several wonderful days at the Supreme Court, although who actually knows what they’ll do, is because conservatives are fighting the good fight. Conservatives are filing the briefs. Conservatives are making the arguments. Not establishment Republicans. Establishment Republicans don’t even think the guy can be beat. It’s frustrating, Rush, whatever progress is made on our side, it’s always due to the conservatives, not Republican operatives, not the consultants, not the insiders, not the establishment.

Rush: “My friend obviously was hoping for a far more conservative nominee than an establishment guy. He doesn’t have anything against Romney personally. It’s not that. This is strictly there were so many hopes, the Tea Party, an uprising, conservative grassroots, and there is the old establishment GOP benefiting from it while not doing one thing to assist or to make it happen.”

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 9:46 am
The “non-discerning reader”?

That might have to be the most politely sarcastic put down ever to appear at this blog. It should be emulated by the articulation challenged participants of this noble endeavour.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 10:19 am
Hey JamesK: even Bolt is giving the SVO (Sweater Vested One) a hard time, wondering what could have been the “n”word he nearly said with respect to Obama.

Bolt’s a real jerk for posting that. He should be ashamed of himself.

Infidel Tiger

31 Mar 12 at 10:23 am
Bolt’s a real jerk for posting that. He should be ashamed of himself.

Yep. He’s pandering to Leftards. See how he hat-tipped one “Mr Jordan” on it? That’s a leftard (formerly “Black Knight:, formerly “Paul of Hervey Bay”, formerly “Bill Door”) with “Most Favored Commenter” status who gets up a dozen or more comments a day, when anyone else is lucky to get through once in a blue moon.

None of any of my comments this year on Bolt’s several posts on either Obama, McCain or Zimmerman/Martin have been deemed “worthy of printing” (I’ve more or less been blacklisted for over a year now, though I still go through spurts where I try to get something – anything – through) yet the deranged morons seem to be put up automatically.

Bolt’s just phoning it in these days, both the posts (note the many egregious typos and uncorrected misspellings, at least two or three a day) and the comments policy. It’s a shame, because he used to run a pretty good blog.

Oh well. There ya go.

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 10:42 am
I skim Bolt’s posts most days, but never bother with the comments. They were like wading through a sewer even before he was desperate to be liked by leftists.

Infidel Tiger

31 Mar 12 at 10:47 am
From the Courier Mail

Prime Minister Julia Gillard vows to reach out to Queensland voters after Labor’s loss in election

lol there are 460 replies to this story.Hilarious reading a few, the overall sentiment is unequivocally negative: “JuLiar” is not welcome and Queenslanders* still have their baseball bats at the ready for the next election. The overriding theme is the carbon dioxide tax, not that federal Labor believes that is an issue.

*except for SFB of course

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 10:53 am
before he was desperate to be liked by leftists.

Hilarious.

But besides that, am I getting this right?: are even the climate change hating blogizens of Catallaxy starting to get bored with every second Bolt post being about that topic? (It certainly seems to me he has increased the frequency of the topic lately.)

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 10:54 am
By the way, last time I saw a couple of weeks ago, Bolt still sing-songs his way through the opening voice over on his show.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:00 am
His recently-acquired (last 12-18 months or so) habit of stealth-editing his own posts – making pretty significant changes or even deleting them altogether with no acknowledgement of that shits me off as well.

RWDBs have always gotten a kick out of pinging Leftoids who pull shit like that, and yet here’s Bolt now stealth-editing along with the best of them.

Pffft.

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 11:00 am
Anyway.

Here’s something pleasant, for a change of pace.

Somewhere Over the Rainbow/Simple Gifts (Piano/Cello Cover) – The Piano Guys

Bookmark it for when y’all have a quiet few minutes. You’ll like, I promise.

Cheers & have a great day, all.

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 11:06 am
“desperate to be liked by leftists…”

That’s a good summation. I notice that the majority of comments published now seem to be those of leftists.

kae

31 Mar 12 at 11:07 am
SforBrains

Bolt doesn’t run his blog any more, it’s been outsourced.

Do try to keep up.

kae

31 Mar 12 at 11:09 am
Spottie
Bolt’s not looking after his blog any more, I’m sure of that. Sometimes I wonder if he’s even writing his own posts!
So many errors (typos and the like), and the writing style is sometimes not Bolt-like, and the comments are not moderated by him at all, I doubt he sees the comments at all!

kae

31 Mar 12 at 11:13 am
Bolt doesn’t run his blog any more, it’s been outsourced.

That’s what happens when you cost your boss too much in legal fees, I guess.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:14 am
Bolt’s been replaced by a Bolt-bot…that’s the theory hey kae?

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:15 am
I’m with you, kae. At least we have the Cat, but!

sdog

31 Mar 12 at 11:16 am
Bear in mind that Bolt has lost the ability to do his own moderation, so, strange as it may seem, Mr Jordon’s thread pollution is down to someone else to explain. Like Pubello at Miranda Devine’s, these types are just so pissed off that conservative writers exist at all that they are there every day trying to be spoilers, and to a degree succeeding.

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 11:17 am
NGER list of companies declaring their CO2 emissions. Read ‘em and weep as the slow realiseation (for some) of just how much companies will have to pay to the government. Naturally, because commercial enterprises are not charities, the costs will be passed onto consumers.

No government departments are listed despite them being big paloodahs of carbin {sic}. Better get the carbin cops on their case eh.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 11:18 am
I don’t understand how IT can find Bolt’s old comments threads a sewer, but he seemingly think this place smells of roses. Very odd.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:19 am
I’d say he’s writing the posts, but the haste shows up in the typos, as with me all the time!

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 11:20 am
Bolt’s not looking after his blog any more, I’m sure of that. Sometimes I wonder if he’s even writing his own posts!

A journalist with a ghost writer! I hope not, that’s pathetic. Perhaps the typos are occurring because he is now using an iPAD.

John H.

31 Mar 12 at 11:20 am
Bear in mind that Bolt has lost the ability to do his own moderation, so, strange as it may seem, Mr Jordon’s thread pollution is down to someone else to explain.

How does Bolt explain posting that clip? Is he not even moderating his own stupidity these days?

Infidel Tiger

31 Mar 12 at 11:20 am
I don’t understand how IT can find Bolt’s old comments threads a sewer, but he seemingly think this place smells of roses. Very odd.

The leftie sneer again. He’s got it down pat.

Stepford, then why don’t you just fuck right off out of here then, you sneering drag queen.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:22 am
Sensitive this morning, are we, JC? Given that we have had some people here complaining lately that they used to comment at Bolts but have abandoned it for here, my question to IT is perfectly legit.

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:26 am
I don’t understand how IT can find Bolt’s old comments threads a sewer, but he seemingly think this place smells of roses. Very odd

Believe me, I have to spray the Glenn 20 after I read your shit.

Infidel Tiger

31 Mar 12 at 11:27 am
There are two problems with most of the News Ltd blogs. Firstly, the delay while someone gets around to vetting the comments. That can take half a day at times. No conversation possible.
Then the uneven moderation, which has improved a little, but certainly went through a stage where the spoilers had a field day every day.

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 11:32 am
Stepford

Do you honestly think the leftwing sneer has ever worked here? Ever?

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:34 am
Stepford

Do you honestly think

LOL.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 11:41 am
…wondering what could have been the “n”word he nearly said with respect to Obama.

Maybe it was this n-word.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 11:42 am
Gab

LOL

*rimshot*

kerpow!

kae

31 Mar 12 at 11:42 am
“even Bolt is giving the SVO (Sweater Vested One) a hard time, wondering what could have been the “n”word he nearly said with respect to Obama.”

It’s highly unlikely he was going to say ‘nigger’. “Government nigger” isn’t a typical or even plausible combination, unless there’s a meaning in American that I’m not privy to. Then again, there was his “I didn’t say black, I said bleugh” moment. I also gave him the benefit of the doubt there, but now I’m wondering.

What is bemusing is his use of “anti-war” as somehow negative. Scary.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 11:43 am
Peggy Noonan: Obama “creepy.”

No kidding.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 11:46 am
It’s highly unlikely he was going to say ‘nigger’.

Agree. Even “government negro” doesn’t make sense. Reading a few headlines, no one is (as yet) making the accusation either, instead framing a question on the almost remark.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 11:49 am
“What is happening is that the president is coming across more and more as a trimmer, as an operator who’s not operating in good faith. This is hardening positions and leading to increased political bitterness.”
Slow learners, those yanks.

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 11:49 am
What is bemusing is his use of “anti-war” as somehow negative. Scary.

It was negative because Obama shot to fame opposing the congressionally approved and now won Iraq War – plus Gitmo, rendition, black ops, targeted assassination, killing civilians, drones and illegal wars. All of which he has enthusiastically maintained and expanded.

But that’s not “scary” to Jarrah – because Obama’s a Democrat so illegal wars and Gitmo are suddenly way cool.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 11:53 am
Democrat Party icon and accomplice to murder, Al Sharpton, calls for “escalation” against whites.

Caption: ‘So I got on the blower and arranged for a Jew to be killed in Crown Heights. LOL.’

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 11:59 am
“But that’s not “scary” to Jarrah”

Yes, it is. When did I say it wasn’t? It’s also scary how fast someone who’s “anti-war” gets flipped, how readily they use their powers for evil, how someone trained in constitutional law ends up approving orders to bypass it.

Happy now that we’ve had our condemnathon?

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 12:12 pm
Also notice how the topic is Santorum, yet CL’s response is “but… but… Obama!”

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 12:20 pm
But that’s not “scary” to Jarrah – because Obama’s a Democrat so illegal wars and Gitmo are suddenly way cool.

Correct.

But don’t forget Obummer’s many homages to Democratic Party tradition: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and crapping on your allies as you accomodate your enemies.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:22 pm
Obamacare the gift that keeps on taking for generations.

The hidden shortfall between new spending and new taxes was revealed just after Supreme Court justices grilled the law’s supporters about its compliance with the Constitution’s limits on government activity. If the court doesn’t strike down the law, it will force taxpayers find another $17 trillion to pay for the increased spending.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/30/another-17-trillion-surprise-found-in-obamacare/#ixzz1qeZvCuat

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:26 pm
Talkin’ of Obama’s predilection for enemies and disdain for friends, here’s the latest:

Benny Avni, New York Post: Undermining an ally, aiding the enemy

A campaign of press leaks, led by some Obama administration insiders, is harming Israel’s and America’s ability to act militarily to end Iran’s nuclear quest.
Washington officials and sympathetic media plainly intend the campaign to erode public support for a military attack on Iran’s nuclear installations. But reports on Israeli military methods, capabilities and alliances are actively aiding the Iranian regime.
You may have seen some of the headlines: “Congress Sez Iran Could Recover From Israeli Attack Within Six Months”; “Hundreds of Americans Will Die in the Aftermath of Iran Attack”; “Israel’s Secret Staging Ground for Attacking Iran.”

Israelis now believe that this public, noisy campaign has replaced an earlier (and much quieter) attempt by top Obama officials to talk directly to Prime Minister Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu and his inner security circle, and persuade them to scrap any plan for an air attack on Iran’s nuclear installations at least until after Nov. 6.
Dennis Ross, until recently Obama’s top Iran adviser, told me yesterday he didn’t believe the administration is conducting an “orchestrated” leaking campaign. But he acknowledged that “some individuals, who don’t want Israel to do this,” may be using leaks for their purposes.

Yesterday Amir Oren, a columnist for the left-leaning Haaretz, predicted that, as a result of an earlier New York Times report on a US military simulated war game, the Netanyahu government will postpone its “capricious” plan for a massive aerial attack on Iran’s nuclear installations until at least next year.

The purely speculative column went viral on foreign-policy wonks’ Twitter accounts, cited as “proof” that “bluffing” Israel won’t attack before November’s US elections.

But why would Israel be swayed? The Times spun the results of the “classified” exercise like a pretzel. As Commentary’s Omri Ceren noted, the newspaper made it sound like the gamers concluded that at least 200 Americans would die if Israel attacks Iran — and then America would be forced to join the war. In fact, the exercise looked at what would happen if an Israeli attack led to an Iranian assault on US warships that caused 200 casualties. In real life, that’s a huge “if.”

To be sure, newspapers’ advocacy campaigns on behalf of this or that policy have their place — and leaks are many reporters’ bread and butter. That’s what we do.

But when administration officials so liberally leak military secrets, they risk seriously damaging their own goals.

John Bolton has also accused the Obummer administration of the same malfeasance

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:32 pm
Whatever Santorum was going to say, it seems (as with the “black/bleugh” incident) that he sometimes makes unclear, ambiguous utterances. Just the sort of thing you want with a man who needs to make important speeches watched by his nations enemies at times of international crisis!

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 12:34 pm
(Assuming he attained the Presidency, I meant, if that was not clear enough.)

steve from brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 12:35 pm
But when administration officials so liberally leak military secrets, they risk seriously damaging their own goals.

Depends on the goal, however” Obama has more “flexibility” after the election.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:37 pm
Santorum interviewed by john King on CNN (with out teleprompter and the ums and aahs of Obummer):

“As you know, we’ve seen in the last week, the centerpiece issue in this election is ObamaCare, and the enormous burden it is on our economy, what it’s doing to drive up unemployment, what it’s doing to explode the federal budget, as well as to explode the deficit. And of course, the impingement upon liberty, both economic liberty and our religious liberties.

I mean, this is — this is a colossal issue, and it’s the issue that Governor Romney is the least qualified to make because he was the author of the blueprint of ObamaCare. So I respect Congressman Ryan, but I think on the most central issue of the day, he has it all wrong.

And this is a — this is a major problem when the huge Achilles heel of this president, where three-quarters of the American public disagree with this mandate, and that yet Governor Romney started the ball rolling in Massachusetts and then advocated for this mandate at the federal level. Frankly, I think he’ll be destroyed by President Obama on this issue come the fall.

And it should be the biggest issue that helps us win this election. It’ll be turned into a negative under Mitt Romney. So I — you know, obviously couldn’t more strongly disagree. I respect Paul and the work he’s done for the conservative cause. But I think on this — on this issue and on this vital issue, he’s got it wrong.”

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 12:40 pm
I also used to be an avid reader of Bolts blog, but almost overnight got banned, while some of the most outrageous crap was printed. The day that only 1 out of 12 posts got printed was when I stopped.
You’re right, IT it’s an open sewer.
The same as Miranda Devine, Piers, etc.
The Left hate the fact we have our own sites where we get together and exchange ideas. They have to destroy them, it’s an obsession.
So every time we reply to someone like SoB, Max, etc, our struggles stir up the water and give the Left more oxygen. Instead of replying, we need to send them to Coventry.
The Cat is next on the list.

Winston Smith

31 Mar 12 at 12:43 pm
Also notice how the topic is Santorum, yet CL’s response is “but… but… Obama!”

It’s called the tu quoque fallacy, Jarrah.

It is the debating tactic of the attack-dog of any position. SOmetimes it is a legitimate debating tool, especially if it is used to deflect back to the important issue, away from a minor issue.

That is how CL, the past-master of the tu quoque, has used it here.

Rococo Liberal

31 Mar 12 at 12:46 pm
Just passed a VW Caravelle on the way up Bellevue Road. Beside the fact that such a vehicle is a rare sighting in Bellevue Hill, it struck me that it was big enough to carry all of the ALP’s Qld MPs. It would seem that they are now to be back down to 7 as they have now fallen behind in Bullimba. After the SOuth Brisban By Election it could be six.

The question is what type of vehicle could the MPs travel together in then? I suggest an HR Holden with the front bench seat, would do the trick.

Rococo Liberal

31 Mar 12 at 12:49 pm
One of these would suit, RL. It’s the right size and it runs on “green” energy.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 12:54 pm
Ideally, RL, a Vespa scooter would do the job, with four of them hanging on for dear life.

Winston Smith

31 Mar 12 at 12:58 pm
PJ Media: Al Gore’s Current TV FIRES Keith Olbermann – REPLACED by former NY Governor aka Client #9

To the Viewers of Current:

We created Current to give voice to those Americans who refuse to rely on corporate-controlled media and are seeking an authentic progressive outlet. We are more committed to those goals today than ever before.

Current was also founded on the values of respect, openness, collegiality, and loyalty to our viewers. Unfortunately these values are no longer reflected in our relationship with Keith Olbermann and we have ended it.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 1:01 pm
His viewer must be heartbroken.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 1:05 pm
Also notice how the topic is Santorum, yet CL’s response is “but… but… Obama!”

Dishonest and dumb. The story is about Santorum and Obama – or didn’t you notice? – and, for our purposes, your claim that “anti-war” was not a cogent or meaningful criticism of the latter in the context of who he is as president. It is extremely cogent and meaningful to a) remember that Obama’s rise to fame occurred solely because he opposed the Iraq War (and because he was a “light-skinned negro” who didn’t look or sound too black), Gitmo etc; and b) his defenders are now OK with illegal wars, Gitmo, rendition etc.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 1:06 pm
When you stare into the TV ratings abyss, the abyss doesn’t stare back at you — because she’s already changed the channel

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 1:07 pm
Whatever Santorum was going to say, it seems (as with the “black/bleugh” incident) that he sometimes makes unclear, ambiguous utterances.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlKIfzoC8D0

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 1:08 pm
The Washington Times: Brutal week for Obama, the worst of his presidency

The past seven brutal days will go down as one of the worst weeks in history for a sitting president. It certainly has been, without any doubt, the worst week yet for President Obama.

Somehow, Mr. Obama managed to embarrass himself abroad, humiliate himself here at home, see his credentials for being elected so severely undermined that it raises startling questions about whether he should have been elected in the first place — let alone be re-elected later this year.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 1:11 pm
Missed including the last two sentences of that op-ed:

“Not that you will see any trace of embarrassment in the face of Mr. Obama. He has mastered the high political art of shamelessness, wearing it smugly and cockily. Kind of like a hoodie.”

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 1:13 pm
“…raises startling questions about whether he should have been elected in the first place…”

I’m amazed that it’s taken so long. Anyone who’s startled hasn’t been paying attention.

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 1:16 pm
Yes yes, tweet and facebook share like crazy about turning the lights of for an hour.
Because

“Our plea is simple – please switch off electricity for an hour and save energy,” said Vinod.

Meanwhile conputer server thingys go into meltdown.
And temperature also goes down, obviously.

Jumpnmcar

31 Mar 12 at 1:17 pm
Its all about indoctrinating the kiddies before they develop common sense.

On Halloween, in the not to distant future, the kids’ll be expecting a bowl full of carbon credits or they’ll vandalise my meter box.

*sigh*

Jumpnmcar

31 Mar 12 at 1:26 pm
It’s sad how older, white conservative men resent their children and grandchildren believing in science.

Steve from Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 1:36 pm
Just your humble Apple store in Shanghai.
—–

Steveland.

—–

Ahhh, the yoof of today. No manors at all.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 1:40 pm
That’s not a dog.

This is a dog.
———-

Menu du jour, Beijing. Go on, try one. Looks yummy.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 1:45 pm
A lawyer representing an American soldier accused of killing of 17 Afghan civilians said Friday that his client’s defense is being compromised by the military’s withholding of evidence gathered during its investigation of the crimes.

… because the witnesses complain of the involvement of more than one US soldier.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 1:45 pm
1

Jc

31 Mar 12 at 1:48 pm
One day soon, Max the yelper will actually learn how to use the quote button correctly.

But I make no promises.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 1:48 pm
because the witnesses complain of the involvement of more than one US soldier.

Another day, another imperial overlord cover up.

Kelly of Kenmore

31 Mar 12 at 1:49 pm
“your claim that “anti-war” was not a cogent or meaningful criticism of the latter in the context of who he is as president.”

Dishonest and dumb. Let me break it down for you in small words: he is trying to say bad things about someone; he thinks “anti-war” is a bad thing. Scary.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 1:50 pm
Okay, so did he phone for a cab or just hail a cab in the street?

Why cats reign supreme over dogs. Heh.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 1:58 pm
YAKIM: As 8-year-old Noorbinak watched her parents desperately trying to fend off the intruder, he turned his gun on her and shot her in the leg.

NOORBINAK (Translation): One entered the room and the others were standing in the yard, holding lights.

YAKIM: I’m struck by her reference to more than one soldier being involved – a claim repeated by the brother of one of the victims…. Staff Sergeant Bales left the scene of the killings in Alkozai village and walked in the darkness back to the base… At 2:30am, he left Camp Belambai a second time. He headed to the village of Najiban to the south, about 1.5km from the base. He was spotted by another Afghan guard as he walked into the night. The soldier entered the house of this farmer, Mohammed Wazir – 11 family members were asleep inside.

MOHAMMAD WAZIR (Translation): They attacked during the night. They knocked on the door. When they knocked on the door my elderly mother, who opened the door, and was shot and killed right there and then they entered the inside – they went in to my room and killed my family in that room. And then they brought all the bodies and put them into one room and then they took all the linen and the blankets from the cupboard and covered them and set them on fire.

Dateline, SBS, the only one doing the journalism.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 2:01 pm
No no. Anti-war was a bad thing because candidate Obama’s ensemble criticism of the Iraq War involved false claims of ‘illegality’ and grossly, hilariously hypocritical notions about the putatively deleterious consequences of the war’s impact on America’s ‘image abroad.’ Obama was also wrong about the Surge, falsely claimed Americans in Afghanistan were “just air-raiding villages and killing civilians” and, of course, went on to wage illegal wars not approved by Congress.

…he thinks “anti-war” is a bad thing.

No, he simply described candidate Obama accurately.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 2:02 pm
You scare easily jazzabelle?

Jc

31 Mar 12 at 2:02 pm
Well done ~~Kelly~~, Max!

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 2:03 pm
The Left hate the fact we have our own sites where we get together and exchange ideas. They have to destroy them, it’s an obsession.

Conquest’s 2nd law of politics: “Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left wing.”

Bolt is now a captive of the left and much be treated as such. He is our enemy and must be scorned.

Infidel Tiger

31 Mar 12 at 2:08 pm
Well done Kelly, Max!

The old way your eye fell directly on what I’m writing now.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 2:11 pm
Good to see the Catholic Bishops here in Victoria circulate a pastoral letter on federal attempts to subvert the meaning of marriage.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 2:11 pm
Its time for the Catholic Church to stay out of politics.

I mean they eventually stayed out of science, so there’s hope.

Marriage has a civil component and for some a religious one.

The solution is simple: advise your flock on the religious content.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 2:14 pm
The Left hate the fact we have our own sites where we get together and exchange ideas. They have to destroy them, it’s an obsession.

It disturbs them greatly. It’s why you read about how objectionable rightwing sites lke this one are unacceptable.

Sanchez’s every comment at the Trop mentions this site for me thing or another.

He lurks here and his heart rate goes up. He can’t comment because he’s moderated seeing the ownership possibly thinks he’s a loon and don’t like him.

Jc

31 Mar 12 at 2:16 pm
4

Jc

31 Mar 12 at 2:17 pm
Imperial leaders hate this kind of bloodletting especially in this social media age. Instant communication makes massacres PR nightmares. When you feed the populace self-righteous bullshit, the skull beneath the skin must be well wrapped lest people succumb to natural urges.

Bales saw the skull and reacted accordingly. His honest hatred for those he was sent to kill fucks with smiley face narratives.

Kelly of Kenmore

31 Mar 12 at 2:27 pm
I don’t think of myself as belonging to a club and most blogs really function as cheer squads for our heroic blog leader or leaders.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 2:38 pm
The trouble is that if we admit we hate them then we acknowledge that we’re not wanted there and that our intervention is an invasion.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 2:42 pm
Its time for the Catholic Church to stay out of politics.

Really? The Church and Catholics should stay out of the public square. I suppose you would have told Martin Luther King Jr. to stay out of the public square too.

Marriage has a civil component and for some a religious one.

Quite, what does this distinction have to do with the proposed attempt to subvert the meaning of marriage? Nothing at all. It isn’t only subverting the religious meaning of marriage, it is subverting the meaning of marriage per se.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 2:47 pm
The state allows the Church to discriminate within its own institutions because it wants to stay out of Church affairs, rather than impose its own secular, universal values, so some reciprocation might be useful.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 2:57 pm
The state doesn’t “allow” us to do anything.

We do what we think is right and if a government tries to stop us, we’ll destroy them.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 3:04 pm
“Its time for the Catholic Church to stay out of politics.”

Don’t be ridiculous. No-one should stay out of politics. Everyone imposed upon by the social contract needs to make their voice heard, or the system doesn’t work.

Besides, some of the strongest fighters against dictators and fascism have been Catholic, and some of the strongest defenders of the poor and oppressed.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 3:05 pm
Its time for the Catholic Church to stay out of politics.

I see Minnie Scum is doing more of what Minnie Skunk does, spreading more sh1t.

Modern western science wouldn’t exist in a recognisable form, if at all, without the Catholic Church.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 3:07 pm
The state allows the Church to discriminate within its own institutions because it wants to stay out of Church affairs, rather than impose its own secular, universal values, so some reciprocation might be useful.

Bollox.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 3:08 pm
Ah, so that’s their problem. Explains a lot.

STUDY of voters’ sexual activity finds far-right-wingers have the most sex and far-left-wingers are most sexually frustrated.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 3:16 pm
The Church is a balance to the State, just like the corporate business world world is a balance to the State, and secular Civil Society is a balance to the State, the corporate business world, and the Church.

It’s an essential separation of powers and they should all pass judgment on each other all the time.

John Mc

31 Mar 12 at 3:17 pm
“Discriminate”? Apparently you find it discriminatory to distinguish two categorical different types of relationship. That marriage per se is a union between a man and a woman is common to both civil and religious marriages in all ages and in all societies. The claim that this is only the case so far as religious marriages are concerned is simply sectarianism dressed in a cheap suit.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 3:21 pm
Re the News Ltd blogs, yes they’re hopeless comments-wise. They may as well go InstaPundit and exclude comments altogether. But that is what these people do for a living. They’re company men and their employer wants the journalistic/blogging content to be associated with their company. If commenters want to write whatever they like online, there’s nothing stopping them from starting a blog.

Speaking more generally, there’s no point being too much of a loyalist with some of these multi-media types. Look at Alan Jones – a rural socialist idiot railing against mining and cheap food. Ray Hadley: a know-all blabbermouth whose background in the communist sheltered workshop of taxi-driving has fitted him for nothing, commentary-wise, vis-a-vis economics, small government or liberty.

So look, cheer when they say or do something you like but don’t sob when they run off in some other direction.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 3:22 pm
Kelly:

So we have worked out just about anything can be a terrorist attack as the MSM will just repeat what an army or government says and they love to throw the word terrorism around.

Correct. Which is why we strictly define that word, don’t use its MSM meaning etc. It’s why I DID use that word when talking to you about islamist violence. That will not be a familar term for you, whereas ‘terrorist’ is.

In other words, I was simplifying, and using terms familiar to you.

I suppose you will now tell me that islamic terrorist attack does not have to have anything to do with islam and only has to be perpetrated by a muslim then we can come up with your really large number.

This statement actually has no meaning in my context. The ‘large number’ is a raw figure, ‘events of islamist violence’. Your odd statement above actually questions intent. That’s hard to judge sometimes, easy other times.

Example. Let’s say Mohammad drives up to the school and shoots a dad and four moppets to death. If the Dad was the bloke who’s been porking Mohammad’s wife (who Mohammad burned alive this morning) and the kids porkerdad’s as well, and the school’s a Madrassa, then intent is probably honour/personal/criminal.

But if Mohammad murdered a rabbi and four Jewish kiddies outside a Jewish school in Toulouse while screamin Allah Akbar and video taping it to put on the bloody internet… oh, wait.

D’ya reckon the intent was ‘jihadist/islamist/terrorist’ or ‘personal/criminal’, KL?

What’s your call?

By definition, ‘islamist terrorist acts’ must be smaller than that raw figure of 19,000+ even though each is an islamist attack, and there are finer and finer sets down the definition chains. So one set is ‘jemaah Islamiyah terror acts in Indonesia’, then even that sub-divides.

If you are studying the workings of the ‘religious war’ islamists are waging on everyone else, this sort of detail is necessary.

Do you understand now?

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 3:22 pm
If he did resign because of the experiments’ poor showing, that’s terrible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17560379#TWEET118756

The head of an experiment that appeared to show subatomic particles travelling faster than the speed of light has resigned from his post.

Reports said some members of his group, called Opera, had wanted him to resign.

Earlier in March, a repeat experiment found that the particles, known as neutrinos, did not exceed light speed.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 3:29 pm
Hey Mk, what do you think about this?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/navy-lasers-four-years/

The dream of sailors, nerds and sailor-nerds everywhere is on the verge of coming true, senior Navy technologists swear. Within four years, they claim they’ll have a working prototype of a laser cannon, ready to place aboard a ship. And they’re just months away from inviting defense contractors to bid on a contract to build it for them.

“Subsonic cruise missiles, aircraft, fast-moving boats, unmanned aerial vehicles” — Mike Deitchman, who oversees future weapons development for the Office of Naval Research, promises Danger Room that the Navy laser cannons just over the horizon will target them all.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 3:36 pm
Gab. that’s hilarious.

But looking at the left’s females… well a fuglier collection of harridans, thin-lipped wowsers, bloodless soulless kommisars and hatchet-faced bitches you’d never want to meet.

And I have not even started on the left’s femenazis and lesbians yet. The combine the looks of a bucket of smashed crabs with the personality of rotting cunjevoi.

The smell is similar to the latter, too.

Or addressed their personality and voices. Gillard and Wong sound like Maxie the NSDAP Squealboy screeching as he’s mercilessly sodomised by the djinn Asmoday the Thorn-cocked. Seriously, you can cut tin with Juliar’s bogan nasal screeches… I mean normal conversation.

The right’s women tend to be hot.

The left’s ‘men’ tend to cowards, cutpurses, metro’s, traitors, homo’s, poseurs and peddokiddiefiddlers, the right’s to the type you’ll find in combat situations.

Thank God the left do not breed.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 3:37 pm
I hope the US Navy calls it the Archimedes System.

C.L.

31 Mar 12 at 3:38 pm
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/laser-04r.html

Jarrah, almost there.

There’s video of this test around somewhere too.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 3:39 pm
If he did resign because of the experiments’ poor showing, that’s terrible.

More likely he resigned because some members of the group didn’t want the results published without further work, let alone making public releases challenging one of the most verified findings in science.

It highlights an increasing problem in science generally. For example, just this week a meta-analysis of cancer studies found most were hopelessly flawed.

John H.

31 Mar 12 at 3:39 pm
That’s terrible wot you done wrote, MK. Terrible but imaginative and amusing.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 3:43 pm
Honesty not publishing politically correct results is what science depends on.

It’s without doubt the reason why modern climate science is a joke.

This is how science is supposed to work.

They checked and double checked their reults before publishing and they had no explanation.

It is a disgrace if he resigned because he felt humiliated.

The anomaly was resolved.

That’s how the process works.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 3:47 pm
Wow. That’s some mighty bitterness you’ve got there, Mk. Got rejected at a peace march once or something?

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 3:50 pm
I agree with 85.7% of that, JamesK.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 3:52 pm
Jarrah, who is Dr Geoff Davies and why did he ‘rip you a new one’ (as they say in the classics)?

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 3:59 pm
Bolt is now a captive of the left and much be treated as such. He is our enemy and must be scorned.

I think it’s quite wrong to start saying things like that about Bolt. He was damaged by the left, and the means to that damage was judicial activism and political correctness overstepping the line of rational regulation. Even Adele Horin has recognised this in her latest article.
That decision should have been appealed all the way to the High Court, if necessary. I believe News Ltd let him down on that one. I’d say if he finds another employer it’ll be down to that.
In the end I agree with CL, if the comments sections of most News Ltd blogs are overloaded with dross they should ditch them. So far, only Tim Blair has maintained a firm grip on this aspect, and if Miranda, Piers, and Bolt can’t do likewise, let it go.
The vitriol that has been sprayed at Janet Albrechtsen in The Australian (haven’t checked recently, gave up reading any comments under her articles) is a disgrace and should not be allowed.

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 4:01 pm
I think the comment you are referring to was approving of the way I ripped him a new one, Gab, not the other way around.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 4:10 pm
Santorum is just weird. He called Obama an “anti-war government nigg..” and in another speech said he didn’t “want to make bla.. people’s lives better by giving them someone else’s money”

These are some disturbing slips of the tongue that will harm him in any general election. Luckily, he won’t be the candidate.

Fisky

31 Mar 12 at 4:16 pm
Gab. that’s hilarious.

Did you read that article? Seems more like the far right are root rats who are never satisfied.
…
But these extra partners don’t seem to satisfy the far-right, as 31 per cent of them declare themselves unhappy with their sex life, compared to 26 per cent in the population as a whole and 21 per cent among Socialists.
—

The study is from France with 1411 in the sample, not big enough for me. And there is the cultural issue to consider. But no worry, just run off with another rant how the entire left is ugly and stupid.

Why do you even trust studies like this? It is like people claiming that conservatives are more anti-science than liberals. Tis bollocks, except for the fact that vast majority of USA scientists identify as left wing. If you’re going to accept studies like the above then accept studies claiming conservatives are dumber on average than liberals, which is consistent with them being poorly represented in science.

Stop referencing all these crap studies. In all of the above there is a methodological flaw: no-one considers how people of differing political persuasions respond to surveys and studies. Additionally, look who commissioned the study. Seriously, you’re placing absolute faith in study commissioned by a porn mag. Don’t you understand how to analyse a study?

John H.

31 Mar 12 at 4:22 pm
Don’t disturb Gab, John. She’s reading my blog.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 4:27 pm
John. I didn’t take it seriously at all. I thought it hilarious at best – not just the spurious “research” but that it was even reported as “news”. I posted it here because we’ve had other postings of such but denigrating right wingers. So this was to “balance” things, and as a bit of lark.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 4:32 pm
Jarrah your blog attracts some important people (exhibit Dr Geoff’s replies to your condemnation of his work). Of course it’s a good read.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 4:35 pm
Gab:

That’s terrible wot you done wrote, MK. Terrible but imaginative and amusing.

Thanks! It was intended to give people a bit of a chuckle.

Jarrah:

Wow. That’s some mighty bitterness you’ve got there, Mk. Got rejected at a peace march once or something?

Nope. No bitterness. Just the experience of working with those worthless swine in Canberra. That’s just what they are. Contemptible yes, but mostly I pitied them.

Those descriptions are accurate and from observed behaviour, you see.

I love peace marches. Truly.

Waaay back in my university days we used to smash them up. They used the uni’s anarchists to smash up our social events, and turn about is fair play. My, didn’t the lefties squeal and complain about our little flying squad. But beforehand, they’d been so delighted when students at indoor semi-private conservative social events got hospitalised by their pet anarchists with broken bones and on two occasions stab wounds.

After the latter, a couple of dozen of us decided that enough was enough and that turn about was fair play (but we used no knives ever).

Turned out the cowards could dish it out by the bucketful, but they could not take it in return by the thimbleful.

Using their own tactics against them was unfair, you see.

When they meet solid counter-attack, the left turn out to be spineless cowards. The anarchists did too. That was a fun, fun payback night, as they had nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Vengeance is best served as a complete surprise and in overwhelming force. it worked. They never did it again.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 4:39 pm
JohnH, that’s why I describes the article as hilarious. It’s not serious, it has to be poking a bit of fun, nothing more.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 4:42 pm
The dream of sailors, nerds and sailor-nerds everywhere is on the verge of coming true, senior Navy technologists swear. Within four years, they claim they’ll have a working prototype of a laser cannon, ready to place aboard a ship.

But if both sides get the technology it still becomes a case of who shoots first.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 4:52 pm
And the Thomsometer keeeeeeps oooon a ticken.

Jumpnmcar

31 Mar 12 at 4:57 pm
JohnH, that’s why I describes the article as hilarious. It’s not serious, it has to be poking a bit of fun, nothing more.

Fair enough MK50. Ironically less than 6 minutes ago on another blog regarding the right and left I stated that the studies are crap. Most of them are. Relying on self reports is not enough for me though it seems many have implicit faith in self reports. I don’t, I think any self-reports must be set against the actual behavior of individuals. By their fruits ye shall know them …

John H.

31 Mar 12 at 4:59 pm
Don’t know if anyone else has highlighted this Corden: Dutch Disease in Australia: Policy Responses for a Three Speed Economy

Mother Hubbard's Dog

31 Mar 12 at 5:00 pm
Stalin and the Macho Cult of mass Murder.

Gotta get Verbrannte Erde if it comes out in English. My German’s not really up to it these days.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 5:01 pm
Oops. Apologies, John. I thought you were addressing me over the article. I see now your comment was directed to MK. Didn’t mean to butt in.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 5:09 pm
Fme. This is really getting interesting.

The Dollar BTU equivalent of a gallon oil vs a gallon of liquid gas in the US is now 23 cents for oil vs 4.76 cents for a gallon of gas. That’s West Texas Intermediate (oil). For Brent basis it would be 27.5 cents vs 4.76 cents… (5.75 times) 17% the cost of oil.

Arbitrage this and you will become a billionaire overnight virtually.

On a serious note the US refiners are switching to gas in order to fire up the refiners which further reduces their cost.

Cummins Engines (truck engine maker) has come out with a gas fired turbo charged truck engine and in fact has an entire suite of gas fired engines.

This arbitrage is amazing. It will literally transform the US and a decent part of the world putting the mid east on the side forever. Fuck’em.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:16 pm
When I say 1 gallon of gas , I mean 1 gallon of LPG.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:17 pm
The only problem with energy self-sufficiency in the us is that it will lay waste to farm land and the Canadian wildnerness, which will in turn contribute to AGW.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 5:19 pm
JC, that’s soul music.

The Saudi oil ticks reduced to regional suppliers? Everything changes. We can just wall those barbarians off and let them cook in their own stewpot.

Time to pop the champagne!

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 5:20 pm
Oh look, Maxie the NSDAP Squealboy’s back.

Sod off swampy. The adults are talking.

JC, I think you mean 1 gallon of LNG (methane) not LPG (butane/propane)??

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 5:23 pm
Notice: nary a word about the CPSU:

Baberowski goes back to Stalin’s native Georgia, where friendship and honor did not have the same connotations as they did in the tsarist empire. Stalin admired the leaders of robber bands, fighters who obeyed their commanders unconditionally, archaic fighting societies where banishment or death were the punishment for betrayal.

According to the author, Stalin’s understanding of domination was somewhat akin to the Mafia’s, and he forced those in his inner circle to carry out his every order unquestioningly.

Stalin, Baberowski writes, met all the criteria of the typical psychopath: he was manipulative, with no conscience, incapable of remorse or empathy. It was this psychopathic personality structure that not only unleashed such massively destructive forces but also bound other psychopaths and sadists to him – violent men who publically acted out “the macho cult of killing” wearing army boots, uniforms, military insignia, and pistol holsters. These men viewed empathy or even tolerance with detestation.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 5:25 pm
Yes LNG..

It’s the same crap to me.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:27 pm
The only problem with energy self-sufficiency in the us is that it will lay waste to farm land and the Canadian wildnerness, which will in turn contribute to AGW.

Stop being an idiot. The square miles required is very low. And Canada is a fucking waste anyway Bob, you moron. It’s a fucking iceberg!

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:29 pm
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JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:31 pm
Breitbart: Hoodie-Wearing Gunmen Kill 1, Wound 5 in Bobby Rush’s Chicago District

Former Black Panther Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) made quite a fuss when he donned a “hoodie” during a speech in the U.S. House of Representatives until he was escorted out. At the time, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “applauded his courage” for doing so.

Meanwhile, back home in Rush’s district, two men wearing hooded sweatshirts, or “hoodies,” were the shooters in an incident that left one dead and five injured.

In fact, during a span of six-hours Thursday night, 13 people were shot, leaving two dead in Chicago. It would seem it takes more courage to simply walk down the street in Rush’s district than it does to wear a hooded sweatshirt in the House of Representatives by way of a stunt in a bizarre tribute to a young man shot and killed in Florida during a shooting incident still under investigation.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 5:33 pm
And Bob, this stuff is deep under ground, it’s not above ground like tar sands which is open cut although the land can be later reclaimed). Get your fucking sources right before you go around spouting bullshit.

Tar sands is messy for the immediate area, however the other stuff like fracking is just sticking a pipe underground.

Bob, your uselessness is really starting to piss me off now.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:35 pm
You’re a coon in the us but a nigger in the uk – i thought it was the other way around:

Scotland Yard is facing a racism scandal after a black man used his mobile phone to record police officers subjecting him to a tirade of abuse in which he was told: “The problem with you is you will always be a nigger”.

The recording, obtained by the Guardian, was made by the 21-year-old after he was stopped in his car, arrested and placed in a police van the day after last summer’s riots.

The man, from Beckton, east London, said he was made to feel “like an animal” by police. He has also accused one officer of kneeling on his chest and strangling him.

In the recording, a police officer can be heard admitting he strangled the man because he was “a cunt”. Moments later, another officer – identified by investigators as PC Alex MacFarlane – subjects the man to a succession of racist insults and adds: “You’ll always have black skin. Don’t hide behind your colour.”

The Independent Police Complaints Commission referred the case to the Crown Prosecution Service on the basis that three officers, including MacFarlane, may have committed criminal offences.

The CPS initially decided no charges should be brought against any of the police officers. However on Thursday, the service said it would review the file after lawyers for the man threatened to challenge the decision in a high court judicial review. MacFarlane has been suspended.

The inquiry began after the victim handed his mobile phone to a custody desk in Forest Gate police station and told officers he had been abused.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 5:36 pm
Squeler, go and enter onanist’s heaven with your Die Sturmer collection.

JC, FMD that’s a huge difference in cost/BTU between crude and gas.

I actually suspect it’s between compressed methane (pipeline gas), not cryogenic liquid. The cryo and regas cycles adds serious costs, which is why people mostly use pipelines on continents.

There’s real cost savings with coal seam gas too – it’s all methane as it’s hydraulically bonded in the porous coal structure. No CO2 like in conventional gas (but no profitable propanes, butanes, parrafin liquids and waxes, or condensate either). Shale has some CO2 but I dunno how much. Formation dependent IIRC.

Irrespective, that’s all damn near irrelevant as that BTU comparison shows.

How the hell does arbitrage work??

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 5:36 pm
At the time, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “applauded his courage” for doing so.

She’s really fucking deranged. She actually makes Tubbie Milne look good.

I sure hope Botox Pelosi sticks around as she’s the best weapon the GOP has against the Demolitionists.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:38 pm
JC – when our little Jew-baiting homo little Ernst Rohm fanboi appears, just say ‘sod off swampy’.

It is, in any case, incapable of participation in adult conversation.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 5:39 pm
db

I’ve been some learning on empiricism, and have to write a paper on Locke’s Human Understanding. Which is the most interesting/easiest innateness; ideas; primary/secondary qualities; identity/persons; knowledge?

Peter Patton

31 Mar 12 at 5:47 pm
How the hell does arbitrage work??

It’s just a highfalutin for swapping from one to the other, MK.

Some large industry sectors have their own energy sources like refiners and fertilizer companies.

Commercial road Transport could make the switch to gas and pocket the difference.

For example an East Coast transport firm could switch to gas and cut their costs by almost six times… more in fact as they are on a Brent Standard.

I was talking to an investor relations guy at a nuke fuel form last night in fact as their electricity contracts come up in May and wanted to know what it was looking like. He told me that that they’re switching over to gas/electricity suppliers for the next period and hope to save around 20% on the $800 million annual power bills. That’s 160 million positive hit to the bottom line!

Get rid of the fucking Kenyan and I am so bulled up the US economy that you would have to pin my ears back. This gas/energy stuff is absolutely transformative to the US economy in such a huge way that I almost find unbelievable.

I want to mortgage everything including my wife and kids to get more money and invest in US stocks.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:49 pm
Here’s another industry to look at. The Fertilzer industry is set for a huge cost reduction due to the price of energy falling in the US.

I never knew this shit, but fertilizer is a big energy user.

China has huge demand for fertilizer going forward as their soils aren’t rich in nutrients, so demand is going to be there.

Any US based fertilizer firm like POTASH will absolutely cream it.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 5:53 pm
“Those descriptions are accurate”

Sure they are. Not a word out of place, not a skerrick of hyperbole. In fact, I’m pretty sure the left doesn’t let anyone who isn’t a coward, cutpurse, metro, traitor, homo, poseur or peddokiddiefiddler join their club. And obviously only those who can combine one or more of those categories can be considered for leadership positions. Anyone who ticks all the boxes automatically gets to be ~~King~~ Non-Gendered Monarch of the Left.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 6:02 pm
Get rid of the fucking Kenyan and I am so bulled up the US economy that you would have to pin my ears back

That’s the key.

If the market has confidence the GOP candidate will win and the Senate will change hands, it will skyrocket (which ironically will help Obummer).

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 6:03 pm
What are Obama’s achievements since 2009?

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 6:06 pm
PP, they’re all much of a muchness with Locke; that is, slipshod but quite easy to understand why. The general opinion among Locke scholars is that his thought taken in its parts is slipshod (very few people are Lockeans regarding any of those ideas/ things), but taken together the shoddiness slips from view and can be forgiven given his overall project. I’d go for identity/ persons and I’d look to begin with at Ed Feser’s book simply called Locke.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 6:07 pm
What are Obama’s achievements ~~since 2009~~?

TFTFY

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 6:08 pm
Gab

What are Obama’s achievements since 2009?

He’s a community organiser… I suppose he’s been organising communities.

kae

31 Mar 12 at 6:13 pm
“What are Obama’s achievements since 2009?”

Depends what you mean by ‘achievements’. Amazingly, there’s a website called http://obamaachievements.org that has a list. I guess they’re feeling the heat, and felt defensive.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 6:13 pm
Good Lord, are there no lefties hanging around? Or do they think Obama has achieved nothing positive for the US since 2009?

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 6:13 pm
Depends what you mean by ‘achievements’.

I won’t make it complex for you, Jarrah:

achieve·ment
noun \ə-ˈchēv-mənt\
Definition of ACHIEVEMENT
1
: the act of achieving : accomplishment
2
a : a result gained by effort b : a great or heroic deed
»
See achievement defined for kids »

Hope that clears it up for you.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 6:17 pm
He won the US Presidential election in 2008

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 6:18 pm
Ha bloody ha, Gab. Don’t give up your day job.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 6:18 pm
Thanks for the link, Jarrah. I’ll read it tomorrow.

I was hoping someone/anyone could just roll off his achievements quickly. Never mind.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 6:21 pm
db

OK, thanks for that, and I’ll take your advice. So, if I start posting to you arguments with that language, you’ll know where it’s coming from.

Peter Patton

31 Mar 12 at 6:23 pm
Don’t get your hopes up. It includes things like “Got his daughters a puppy!”, and “March jobs data showed biggest growth in three years” – I’m pretty sure that last one wasn’t his doing. But then again, I don’t think the high unemployment was his doing either, so you’ll probably want to discount my opinion.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 6:26 pm
Get rid of the fucking Kenyan and I am so bulled up the US economy that you would have to pin my ears back. This gas/energy stuff is absolutely transformative to the US economy in such a huge way that I almost find unbelievable.

Calling an American a Kenyan because he’s black makes you what …?

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 6:31 pm
Jarrah no need to get defensive. I simply wanted a list and you provided. Thank you.

========================

People, don’t forget to celebrate Earth Hour.

Advert for the cause here.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 6:31 pm
Just checked comments at Bolt’s on the David Murray thread and it looks better than it used to!

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 6:35 pm
Yeah JC fertiliser is a huge energy user.

Aluminium smelting (alumina to metal) is the most energy intensive industrial process on Earth AFAIK. Aluminium is not called crystallised electricity for nowt.

Another is oil production from tar sands!

You are right. This has implications right across the US economy in cutting their cost structures.

If they can get rid of Preshizzle (Paco ™) Odumbugger and get government out of the way of business, their economy is going to go thru the roof.

Buy your cheap US goods now, folks!

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 6:42 pm
Apparently the creepy scum that is min Slime is now boldly finger-wagging

Doesn’t this by ur own pathetic admission mean u now need to get out and about more, minnie?

U morally depraved fvckwit.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 7:06 pm
Why are you shouting all the time, Max, you rude bastard?

It’s getting old.

Pedro the Ignorant

31 Mar 12 at 7:20 pm
Guys.

Just respond with “Sod off swampy”

Nothing else, and it will wither away from lack of attention.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 7:28 pm
Pedro,I think Max is a crazy deaf uncle.Joe can translate his nonsense if needed

Tal

31 Mar 12 at 7:44 pm
Mark remember the first sod of swampy incident? Gone are the days….

Tal

31 Mar 12 at 7:46 pm
Calling an American a Kenyan because he’s black makes you what …?

A realist.

Sod.off.swampy.

Carpe Jugulum

31 Mar 12 at 7:50 pm
And there is the cultural issue to consider.

That French men habitually lie about their sex lives? Indeed.

Abu Chowdah

31 Mar 12 at 8:02 pm
“Calling an American a Kenyan because he’s black makes you what …?”

Stupid.

Jarrah

31 Mar 12 at 8:02 pm
Gab, a legitimate study of dissatisfaction with sex lives WOULD show that more left wing couples are unhappy. That’s because lesbian and gay couples have been shown to have less sex than straight couples over the length of their relationships. Especially lezzers who become almost sexless in time. Lots of hugging, though.

Abu Chowdah

31 Mar 12 at 8:06 pm
Don’t forget JK, he won the Nobel prize because they thought he might do something. But they don’t know what.

Winston Smith

31 Mar 12 at 8:14 pm
The Nobel Peace Prize.

How could I have forgotten?

And the taxpayer funded Sydney Peace Prize is going beggin’ for Bazzer

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:26 pm
Human Progress Hour is on, Earthians!

Fire up those wondrous carbon emitting devices!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 8:32 pm
About to board a jet plane. Suck on that, earth hour catastropharians!

Abu Chowdah

31 Mar 12 at 8:36 pm
You know that it would be untrue…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 8:37 pm
Timely, Chowds – enjoy!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 8:38 pm
Freedom for all incestuously bonded carbon!

When do we want it?

Now!

Carbon atoms who enjoy warmth should be free to enjoy polyamorous bonding with oxygen!

Maximum domestic carbon release now!

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 8:42 pm
All my lights are on for Human Achievement Hour

Irving J

31 Mar 12 at 8:44 pm
Human Progress Hour is on, Earthians!

Fire up those wondrous carbon emitting devices!

Time to party like it is 1999BC

Token

31 Mar 12 at 8:52 pm
Some people work very hard…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 8:52 pm
I support the marriage of Carbon and Oxygen, though the relationship be uneven.

blogstrop

31 Mar 12 at 9:02 pm
Who cares what it does since you broke my heart, you dozy hippie bimbo…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 9:08 pm
A relationship where too much bigamy is never enuff.

JamesK

31 Mar 12 at 9:08 pm
The wheel, eet burns, Squire!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 9:19 pm
Freo and Geelong – an absolute corker.

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 9:31 pm
I can turn off the aircons now?
It’s bloody cold!

Winston Smith

31 Mar 12 at 9:32 pm
Open the windows Winston

Tal

31 Mar 12 at 9:34 pm
It is Rabz. But no where near as good as last night. Carn the Hawks!

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 9:42 pm
Yes DB, very annoyed I forgot to watch last night’s mach – wasn’t happy about Sydney FC losing.

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 9:45 pm
And right at the death. I would have been ‘forgetful’ too.

dover_beach

31 Mar 12 at 9:47 pm
T’was a crazy last ten minutes…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 9:50 pm
All hail Tim Blair’s Hour of Power!

What’s on at Casa Mk50?

6cyl diesel running outside. Flood lights. 7 aircons. all domestic appliances. Oven (filled with rib roast beef) on, entre of Gulf prawns (198kg of CO2 per kilo, sez Blair!) 44 light globes. 2 TV, 1 desktop, 5 laptops between 3 of us

Dammit my 38 year old V-8 is in the shop.

take that, Gaia!

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 9:51 pm
Marky – visible from orbit, I hope?!?!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 9:53 pm
Rabz, I hope it’s visible from Mars.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 9:57 pm
Pity the V8 is in the shop. I mix some of my dwindling stock of tetraethyl lead with 91 octane unleaded to make good old fashioned super for that engine.

Just for the Greentards.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 10:00 pm
Hopefully from Pluto, Squire!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 10:00 pm
There is this funny glow on the underside of the clouds to the south, Mk50.
Is that you?

Winston Smith

31 Mar 12 at 10:06 pm
I reckon, Winston. I hope the energy radiating from your place is turning the desert to glass and firing the spinifex within line of sight?

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 10:14 pm
That funny glow on the clouds is my driveway with the task lights on.

Carpe Jugulum

31 Mar 12 at 10:14 pm
This freo v cats match is awesome!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 10:20 pm
Freo by 4.

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 10:27 pm
See the Bombers fly up.

Sinclair Davidson

31 Mar 12 at 10:28 pm
It’s not yet 7:30 in Perth, and I’ve had lights on for an hour and will until Spooks finishes. Do I get extra credit?

DrBeauGan

31 Mar 12 at 10:31 pm
Calling an American a Kenyan because he’s black makes you what

Bobster, I know you think it’s ‘wacist’. But it’s really just a play on the fact that there are people who think he was born in Kenya, which I consider amusing.

Let me ask you though, what’s wrong with being a Kenyan or considered being a Kenyan.

What do you have against Kenyan’s Bob?

JC

31 Mar 12 at 10:35 pm
Yes, quote something and enjoy the implication and then distance yourself from it and enjoy your innocence.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 10:43 pm
Well, Bob’s internet vermin as well as a leftist. Leftists are almost by definition racists as they see the world through race-coloured lenses. The Squealer persona is also a bigot, a Jew-hater, an Ernst Rohm fanboi and a totalitarian splooge-sponge.

So my bet is that his problem with Kenyans is that they are mostly black-skinned folk.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 10:45 pm
Earth hour should be celebrated in December or January. Then see how committed people are when they either freeze to death in Washington or swelter in Canberra.
Anyways now it’s over I have to go and replace all my incandecent globes I screwed in especially for the event……Memories of better times.

Splatacrobat

31 Mar 12 at 10:48 pm
The Kenyan’s father was a Kenyan, Bob. What do you have against people from Kenya?

Repeating , the reference is made because of the birth certificate thing and the conspiracy theories that go with it.

You on the other hand seem the believe there is something wrong with being a Kenyan. Why Bob, why?

JC

31 Mar 12 at 10:50 pm
Big business loves big government money:

President Obama and the Senate Democrats have again fallen short in their quest to eliminate billions of dollars in unnecessary tax breaks for an oil industry that is rolling in enormous profits. A big reason for that failure is that some of those profits are being continuously recycled to win the support of pliable legislators, underwrite misleading advertising campaigns and advance an energy policy defined solely by more oil and gas production.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 10:52 pm
it’s ‘wacist’

Actually, JC, it’s “waaaaacist” with five ‘a’s, thus bestowing the appropriate gravity.

min squeal won’t be impressed, but who gives a rodents’ backsayeedah…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 10:53 pm
Sod off, swampy. We are determining just what level of filth you are.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 10:53 pm
Ernst Rohm fanboi

You stole my Ernst Roehm joke that I directed at you, MK50, even your insults are as unoriginal as your hate-soaked Islamophobia.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 10:54 pm
I see you use the term ‘swampy’ to avoid the c-word which will send your comment into moderation.

Unfortunately, the word lacks some of the force of the original.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 10:57 pm
lol… Yea Rabz, it’s waaaaacist. I forgot the 5 “a’s”.

Bob won’t tell me what’s wrong with Kenyan’s though.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 10:58 pm
WTF – min squeak has figured out the blockquote function!

Self awareness followed by self termination* should follow shortly…

*hammster, RIP.

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 10:58 pm
“Sod off, swampy” is an expression which was coined some time ago, it’s got nothing to do with any “c” word.

Try again, Bobbo.

kae

31 Mar 12 at 11:00 pm
Bob won’t tell me what’s wrong with Kenyan’s though.

That’s ’cause he wishes he was one, Squire…

All that power and privilege…

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:01 pm
Yes, well, my sources on ‘swampy’ are reliable, but of course its a word with a variety of meaning that allows for ‘plausible deniability’.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 11:04 pm
“They were just Cockney barrow boy spivs. Total thugs”

Sod off, swampy!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:06 pm
Maxie, stop being petulant and stupid and go home.

How should I put it politely, because I am such a lady?

I know: sod off, swampy. That sounds about right.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

31 Mar 12 at 11:07 pm
its a word with a variety of meaning that allows for ‘plausible deniability’

No, it isn’t, you pompous twat.

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:07 pm
Fanny by swampy gaslight farts into life.

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 11:08 pm
The twit with the twat gasses off, as well,

Max Scream

31 Mar 12 at 11:09 pm
Hey Lizzie!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:09 pm
17

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:11 pm
as unoriginal as your hate-soaked Islamophobia

Typical.

Aren’t ‘progressives’ supposed to be ‘down’ on religion?

Being the opiate of the masses and all that?

Especially the ones that are sexist, racist and woofterphobic?

min, go back to buggery, please.

You’re like a helium filled balloon with a rape alarm attached.

Annoying, incessant and supposedly out of reach.

Sod off, hippie!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:22 pm
Sod off, swampy.

Now, to the normal denizens of the Cat.

So, opening bid on what type of filth is internet vermin de jour, Squealer AKA teh Ernst Rohm fanboi AKA Bob AKA maxie etc etc.

I bid: krill excrement.

Reason: Intellectual parity of Swampy with krill (one, singular, slightly brain damaged).

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:33 pm
18 actually

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 11:37 pm
Yea Rabz! Am on the troll-chase again tonite. Only have a few minutes and didn’t mean to comment, but Lizzie the Cat finds that with the little mice running around so freely such resistance is futile. It’s just in my genes.

Wreckage and I have been trying to help Kenmore. I think she will need a Certificate of Readmission following her comments on Steve K’s Accident Report, or maybe she’s just plain Certifiable. I’ve suggested a particular sort of drug therapy which I am sure will help.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

31 Mar 12 at 11:39 pm
18 actually

hahahahahahah.

Lets do this, Gab. I count then you audit the number. This is working out quite well as we’re specializing our duties. I count, you audit.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:42 pm
Especially the ones that are sexist, racist and woofterphobic?

What? You mean raaaaacist.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:43 pm
oops “waaaaacist”

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:44 pm
Good point, JC. You have some good ideas

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 11:44 pm
FWIW, in the ‘sod off swampy’ context, ‘swampy’ means “Nasty mushy diarrhea that mostly floats, and stinks to high hell”

As in:

“What’s wrong Bill? You look crook.”

“Bad prawns, got a guts ache and my freckle’s screaming from a brutal swampy five minutes ago.”

See, Squealer? it’s a letter perfect description of you!

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:45 pm
oops “waaaaacist”

Bleep!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:45 pm
Wreckage and I have been trying to help Kenmore.

Way too charitable, the pair of you!

Rabz

31 Mar 12 at 11:47 pm
By George, I think he’s got it! I do think Rabz has got it!

waaaaaycist also works. waaaaahmbulance also has 5 a’s

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:48 pm
(scuttles over to Accident Report to check the splatter pattern)

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:49 pm
CLIMATE CHANGE: OLBERMANN OUT AT CURRENT TV…
LAWSUIT THREAT… Out $50 Million?

Lol… Gore gave Olbermann the boot. He’s even less popular than stepford.

You know, if you’re a real hard partisan leftie and big fat Algore boots you, you really have to be a first rate arsehole.

JC

31 Mar 12 at 11:49 pm
That’s about the third or fourth network that’s booted the loon. He used to do sports and was booted off there because people hated him.

Jc　

31 Mar 12 at 11:54 pm
Earth hour should be celebrated in December or January. Then see how committed people are when they either freeze to death in Washington or swelter in Canberra.

hahaha Splat that’s a very interesting idea. Of course it won’t fly. The Luddites aren’t that committed to the cause.

Gab

31 Mar 12 at 11:57 pm
Oh. My. Lord.

Get over to Accident Report and see what Wreckage, Lizzie and Gab did to KKenmore.

Awe-inspiring.

Mk50 of Brisbane

31 Mar 12 at 11:58 pm
That’s about the third or fourth network

Fourth actually.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
Is it the fourth? Lol.

He’s finished now. No one will touch him with a barge pole.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
Repeating , the reference is made because of the birth certificate thing and the conspiracy theories that go with it.

And let’s not forget that all started with top Clinton strategist Mark Penn who wrote campaign memos questioning Obama’s American identity.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
You know Gab, I’m no sink for conspiracy theories of any sort. However I have to say this one has me beat. Not in the sense that I don’t think he was born outside of the US as to me it wouldn’t matter much anyway as he had an American mother. However whereas I’m 99.999999999999% certain say Romney, Santorum, Clinton, Bush were born in the US, I’m about 85% certain with the Kenyan.

In other words although I still think he was born in the US, I’m just not certain as the fucker has some serious gaps in his life.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
ooops not that I think he was born…

JC

1 Apr 12 at 12:14 am
The twit with the twat gasses off, as well,

Oh dear me, Maximus not. As I say firmly to The Ape when the alcohol hits the last firing brain cell: “Time for bed, and you can tell me about it in the morning”.

Sadly, Maxie, you will still be incoherently shambolic and far more unpleasant than the gentle if flambuoyant Ape ever becomes when you sober up as well. Try anger management. Or ask for a cleansing enema. It may help with the swampy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

1 Apr 12 at 12:16 am
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, as you know, JC.

Something is amiss for a president to be deliberately poorly scrutinised by the media during the campaign. And how many years did it take before Obama finally made his long form certificate available? Put aside whether the LFC is a fraud or not, why the reluctance to provide the information on such a basic form of identification?

Too many questions surround this president’s life and he gets away with it with the help of Hollywood, the liberal MSM, activists and academia.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:16 am
Begs the question: what’s he got to hide?

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:18 am
That hits the spot, Graeme.

I’m so sick of this fucking dog and pony show, where Wayne Swan pretends to be fiscally responsible. Fuck I hate that. Its like the fucking Stalinist show-trials.

Wayne Swan will NEVER EVER EVER run a surplus budget. The reason is that his words no good. Its a character thing. He, and his coterie, and the assholes in the public service, are no good. For this reason we will not have a surplus while this asshole has any influence under matters.

Now EVERYONE knows this at some level. But the Stalinist dog and pony show goes on. They find a bunch of know-nothing “economists” to say that its a bad time to cut back on the bludging. They find a bunch of assholes who never progressed beyond Keynesian-propaganda 101. And then they have them crying out for Wayne Swan not to be TOO-tough, TOO-rugged.

I’m fucking sick of this. I’m going to get about with my steelcaps on over this. Looking for the sly shin-bruise. This particular fucking marionette-parade is getting fucking old.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:23 am
What’s ‘left’ of ‘k of k’…

Well done, Troll Termination Squad (TTS).

Brutal.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 12:24 am
the Stalinist dog and pony show goes on

Good ol’ gra gra*.

*AKA massah boidy…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 12:27 am
I’m going to get about with my steelcaps on over this. Looking for the sly shin-bruise.

No one will see those 14 holes a comin’…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 12:32 am
Hi Graeme. Miss you sometimes, you are a good sort of crazy. Glad Gab keeps us in touch here.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

1 Apr 12 at 12:32 am
Oooh. Why am I feeling so generous? Now is that just an invitation I issued to some gorgeous new gal to come up on the screen, aka Graeme? I’m off to bed before word gets out.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

1 Apr 12 at 12:34 am
I’m off to bed before word gets out.

Beat off (PTP) his apeness, miss – it’s actually an hour earlier!

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
There’s a story in the weekend’s AFR (the only Fairfax I ever buy because it has a good architecture section) covering boofhead Lindsay Fox and his take on the Tasmanian economy. He reckons that if the Gunns pulp mill doesn’t get built and Rio and BHP walk away (as they might well do) unemployment will hit 20% down there.

Yet 65% of the people in that place are on some sort of government assistance.
Does anyone in the media ever tackle Mad Dog Bob And Tubbie Milne about this disaster in the making.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 12:37 am
The Environmental Protection Agency has dropped its claim that an energy company contaminated drinking water in Texas, the third time in recent months that the agency has backtracked on high-profile local allegations linking natural-gas drilling and water pollution.

On Friday, the agency told a federal judge it withdrew an administrative order that alleged Range Resources Corp. had polluted water wells in a rural Texas county west of Fort Worth. Under an agreement filed in U.S. court in Dallas, the EPA will also drop the lawsuit it filed in January 2011 against Range, and Range will end its appeal of the …
BY DANIEL GILBERT AND RUSSELL GOLD

The Environmental Protection Agency has dropped its claim that an energy company contaminated drinking water in Texas, the third time in recent months that the agency has backtracked on high-profile local allegations linking natural-gas drilling and water pollution.

Their like the Obama-sanctioned mafia.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:45 am
The Environmental Protection Agency has dropped its claim that an energy company contaminated drinking water in Texas, the third time in recent months that the agency has backtracked on high-profile local allegations linking natural-gas drilling and water pollution.

On Friday, the agency told a federal judge it withdrew an administrative order that alleged Range Resources Corp. had polluted water wells in a rural Texas county west of Fort Worth. Under an agreement filed in U.S. court in Dallas, the EPA will also drop the lawsuit it filed in January 2011 against Range, and Range will end its appeal of the …
BY DANIEL GILBERT AND RUSSELL GOLD

The Environmental Protection Agency has dropped its claim that an energy company contaminated drinking water in Texas, the third time in recent months that the agency has backtracked on high-profile local allegations linking natural-gas drilling and water pollution.

They’re like the Obama-sanctioned mafia.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:46 am
Ms Gillard claimed Queensland would enjoy a “disproportionate benefit” compared to the rest of Australia from her broadband, education, infrastructure and climate policies because of its decentralised nature and ability to invest in renewable energy.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/prime-minister-julia-gillard-vows-to-reach-out-to-queensland-voters-after-labors-loss-in-election/story-e6freooo-1226314902946

If Queensland gets a “disproportionate benefit” then Gillard should reveal which state(s) will be the losers in that equation.

Ivan Denisovich

1 Apr 12 at 12:47 am
On Tuesday, NBC’s Today Show hosted by Ron Allen ran a segment of a phone conversation Zimmerman had with police shortly before killing Martin, as reported by Fox’s Hannity Show. NBC’s version of the phone call allegedly had Zimmerman say the following about Martin: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

But in reality the two sentences were separated by a question the 911 dispatcher asked. The original phone call transcript ran like this:

Zimmerman: “We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”

911 Dispatcher: “Okay. And this guy, is he white black or Hispanic?”

Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

It’s like someone at the top, an important American figure, say like the president, gave them permission to heat up racial tensions or something…

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 12:57 am
If Queensland gets a “disproportionate benefit” then Gillard should reveal which state~~(s)~~ will be the losers in that equation.

NSW.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 12:58 am
Zimmerman called him a Kenyan on another tape before he sang:

Well, I was feelin’ sad and feelin’ blue
I didn’t know what in the world I wus gonna do
Them Communists they wus comin’ around
They wus in the air
They wus on the ground
They wouldn’t gimme no peace . . .

So I run down most hurriedly
And joined up with the John Birch Society
I got me a secret membership card
And started off a-walkin’ down the road
Yee-hoo, I’m a real John Bircher now!
Look out you Commies!

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:01 am
Zimmerman: “He looks black.”

Dead criminal: “Black”

Zimmerman: “White-Hispanic”

odumbo: “White-Black”

FFS, end this obscene, absurdity, please!

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:03 am
Now Eisenhower, he’s a Russian spy
Lincoln, Jefferson and that Kenyan guy
To my knowledge there’s just one man
That’s really a true American: George Lincoln Rockwell
I know for a fact he hates Commies cus he picketed the movie Exodus

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:03 am
Santorum called the Kenyan ‘an anti-war, government nigger’.

Obvious Presidential material for the Catallaxy crowd.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:07 am
He didn’t call him anything of the sort. And Bob, your buddies on the Left call Abbott the mad monk in bigoted reference to his religious beliefs.

Why isn’t that bigotry as bad as referring to the color of a person’s skin in a bigoted way?
Hang with a leftwing crowd, refer to Abbott as the mad monk and no one would bat an eye.

Explain please. Go!

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:12 am
Obvious Presidential material for the Catallaxy crowd.

Who here backs the blantorum, min squeak?

Evidence, please.

Oh, that’s right, you don’t ‘do’ evidence.

It’s all about the gutless, flying swipe…

P.S. What exactly is a “Government Niggah”?

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:15 am
The head of the college Republicans at University of Texas who tweeted: “My president is black, he snorts a lot of crack. Holla.”

Or the blogger for the conservative John Locke Foundation who posted a picture of Obama in drag with a bucket of fried chicken on the group’s website.

Or the Orange County Republican official who circulated an email that featured Obama as the child of chimpanzees.

Or the Republican city mayor in California who circulated an email with a picture of the White House lawn turned in to a watermelon patch.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:16 am
How about the charges Bush was really Bushitler?

I really cannot understand why you dislike Kenyans so much.

If he was referred to as that Hawaiian it wouldn’t matter, right? If he was referred to as the American seeing he had an American mother it also wouldn’t matter. Call him by his father’s heritage and you’re throwing around the waaaaacist angle.

Bob, you really don’t like Kenyans, do you? Why Bob, why?

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:17 am
Santorum even thinks only blacks – not Kenyans, obviously – are on welfare:

Here, Santorum has previous form. In Iowa, he stumbled when discussing conservative opposition to welfare programmes:

“I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money.”

In the face of later outrage at singling out black Americans, he insisted that he had not said “black”, but instead vocalised “bleugh”, as his mind became confused over his own train of thought. Believe that? Judge for yourself here.

Santorum and his campaign have continued to vociferously deny he said “black” in Iowa. Personally, I don’t believe him. The video seems clear enough to me.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:20 am
throwing around the waaaaacist angle.

You’re better at this than me, Squire!

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:20 am
Bobster:

The demolition senate head referred to the Kenyan as a light skinned black.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid apologized today for a remark he made in 2008, calling Barack Obama a “light-skinned” African-American who didn’t have a “Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”

VP Biden:

Obama Clean, Articulate, Bright African-American

Add those to the list, Bobster.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:22 am
Santorum and his campaign have continued to vociferously deny he said “black” in Iowa. Personally, I don’t believe him. The video seems clear enough to me.

Fair enough. Who gives a shit what you believe Bobster.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
JC why do you expect to have a decent discussion with max Yelp? He’s clearly a cut and paster, no argument at all.

Still. I admire your optimism.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
“I don’t want to make lazy, stupid, illiterate, alcoholic, drug addicted bogans’ lives better by giving them somebody else’s money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money.”

A statement I wholeheartedly endorse.

No apologies, min. It’s there – in B&W.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:26 am
You made no racial reference, rabid, so try again.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:28 am
Add those to the list, Bobster.

Plus:

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/7851/well-eric-holder-cant-call-guy-cowardly

Ivan Denisovich

1 Apr 12 at 1:30 am
Yes, well, I’ll answer any question worth answering but JC’s obsessions are not worthy.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:31 am
The head of the college Republicans at University of Texas who tweeted: “My president is black, he snorts a lot of crack. Holla.”

And this is waaaaacist? Why? The drug of choice was or still is crack for American blacks. So what’s the problem was association, Bob?

Or the blogger for the conservative John Locke Foundation who posted a picture of Obama in drag with a bucket of fried chicken on the group’s website.

Lots of American blacks eat fried chicken. KFC is delicious eaten sparingly, so why is this waaaaacist.

Or the Orange County Republican official who circulated an email that featured Obama as the child of chimpanzees.

Stupid email. There are lots of emails floating around with ethnic based jokes. big deal

Or the Republican city mayor in California who circulated an email with a picture of the White House lawn turned in to a watermelon patch.

Wow! Ought to be imprisoned.

You leftards are absolutely hung up about wace. It’s all you fuckers talk about.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:31 am
Wace, wace wace.

He’s waaaaacist!

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:31 am
Yes, well, I’ll answer any question worth answering but JC’s obsessions are not worthy.

Old coward. Man up Bob.

Why do you dislike Kenyans Bob?

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:32 am
You made no racial reference

I actually did, you fucking moron.

P.S. “Gubbermemt Niggah”

Definition please, syphlitard.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:33 am
25.

Audit please.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:34 am
Concur. 25 mundane and predictable comments.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 1:38 am
Elmer Fudd is alive and well.

And Rabid, you still won’t put the racial reference in your phrase,

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:39 am
mundane and predictable

Oh, Gab, you wicked young woman, you…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:39 am
26

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:43 am
And Rabz, you still won’t put the ~~racial~~ waaaaacial reference in your phrase

It was in the original phrase, you obese, syphilitic, paralytic parody.

Here’s a hint: Begins with the letter B, has five characters and ends in the letter N.

No more hints will be given.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:44 am
Man City V Blunderland is boiling over!

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:46 am
…..you obese, syphilitic, paralytic parody.

That’s waaaaacist Rabz.

Non-whites have been syphilitic, paralytic too.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:48 am
The way Elmer Fudd speaks is based on the stereotype of the slow-witted black southerner from the rabbitt stew cartoon.

So anyone who uses this mode of speech, even in literary transcript, is exploiting anti-black, racist stereotypes.

The idea of the ‘Kenyan’ belongs in the same field of racist expression.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 1:51 am
Non-whites have been syphilitic, paralytic too.

Clever, Squire – ‘non whites’ are of course, never ‘parodies’, no matter how much they are…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:53 am
The idea of the ‘Kenyan’ belongs in the same field of racist expression.

Nope. You’re lying.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 1:55 am
So anyone who uses this imaginary mode of speech, even in literary transcript, is exploiting anti white-black, waaaaacist stereotypes.

Thank bleeping jehovah for my decoder ring…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 1:56 am
That reminds me of an old story.

We once had to fire a guy, who over a period of time got worse and worse at his job and reliability, that ended up as a legal entanglement.

One time my boss must have said to him, in a conversation, that he thought he was Mexican. The dude used it the letter of claim saying that he was in fact Cuban and was insulted being thought of as Mexican.

The lawyer shot back a letter asking his attorney if would be so kind as to explain what his client thought was wrong with Mexicans. There was no reply.

I’m thinking Bobster and the Cuban dude have something in common. The Cuban didn’t like Mexicans and the Bobster clearly has a problem with Kenyans.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 2:02 am
Oh good Lord, his Father was Kenyan. Kenyan is his ancestry but the likes of Bob the Yelper believe Kenyans are just not good enough to be associated with the white black president.

‘progressives’ are always always regressive. They prefer to keep the racist game alive.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 2:04 am
There was no reply.

Yep, there’s a lot of that ‘not’ going around, evidently.

For the last time, minnie, what is a ‘government ni….”?

Well?

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 2:09 am
Bob the Yelper

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 2:15 am
Obama. Obama biro, yawne yo!

The ‘Buffet Rule’ tax.

President Barack Obama is calling on Congress to increase taxes on millionaires, reviving a proposal he first pitched last September that aims to draw sharp election-year lines between the president and the Republican opposition.

The plan, scheduled for a vote in the Democratic-controlled Senate on April 16, stands little chance of passing in Congress. But it is a prominent symbol of the efforts the president and congressional Democrats are making to portray themselves as champions of economic fairness. Republicans dismiss the idea as a political stunt with little real effect on the budget.

“We don’t envy success in this country. We aspire to it,” [pathetic rhetoric] Obama said in his Saturday radio and Internet address. “But we also believe that anyone who does well for themselves should do their fair share in return, so that more people have the opportunity to get ahead — not just a few.”

Fair share bollocks. Does Buffet even pay tax? No.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 2:17 am
Man City – effing pretenders!

Losing (at the moment) 3 -1 to chunderland!

Chokers!

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 2:20 am
Lol

Keith Olbermann has been fired from Current TV, because he no longer reflects the company’s values, it was announced today.

He will be replaced by a man who cheated on his wife with a prostitute.

Thanks to Aaron Worthing, who says: “His viewer must be devastated.”

http://patterico.com/

JC

1 Apr 12 at 2:23 am
Hey! Aaron stole that line from me! Admittedly i’d said ‘heartbroken’…but still.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 2:26 am
The Force thumped the Reds tonight 45-19. I was at the game and it was beautiful to behold.

tbh

1 Apr 12 at 2:29 am
Tweets on Olbermann firing. Hilarious

How much of a douche do you need to be to get fired by the company that still employs Cenk Uygur? Seriously.

Just how unbearable is Keith Olbermann if Current TV decided to go with the guy that’s gonna blow his paychecks on hookers?

Elliot Spitzer

@KeithOlbermann FYI- no current postings on Monster.com for pasty 53 year old drama queen anchors in the $1m+ salary range.

Where do you go after being fired by Current TV? Baby monitors?

F

iring @KeithOlberman appears to be part of Current TV’s strategy for having people know it exists.

BREAKING statement from Current TV: “We discovered it was cheaper to have no one watch Spitzer instead of having no one watch Olbermann.”

JC

1 Apr 12 at 2:42 am
This is madness.

Madness?

——————————————–

Yeah, I know.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 4:18 am
Oops. First link was meant to be this.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 4:19 am
Is Conservatism Our Default Ideology?

New research provides evidence that, when under time pressure or otherwise cognitively impaired, people are more likely to express conservative views.

A research team led by University of Arkansas psychologist Scott Eidelman argues that conservatism — which the researchers identify as “an emphasis on personal responsibility, acceptance of hierarchy, and a preference for the status quo” — may be our default ideology. If we don’t have the time or energy to give a matter sufficient thought, we tend to accept the conservative argument.
“When effortful, deliberate responding is disrupted or disengaged, thought processes become quick and efficient,” the researchers write in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin. “These conditions promote conservative ideology.”
Eidelman and his colleagues’ paper will surely outrage many on the left (who will resist the notion of conservatism as somehow natural) and the right (who will take offense to the idea that their ideology is linked to low brainpower)

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:07 am
Stunning: Obamacare creates $17 trillion in unfunded liabilities

On the Senate floor today, Ranking Member Sessions announced that a new Budget Committee analysis has found that the long-term, unfunded liabilities associated with President Obama’s health care law will reach $17 trillion. The Committee’s analysis is based on the Obama Administration’s own numbers as well as those from the Congressional Budget Office. It is a modest, conservative estimate and yet is still more than double that of Social Security.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:23 am
When the Archbishop Met the President

Cardinal Dolan thought he heard Barack Obama pledge respect for the Catholic Church’s rights of conscience. Then came the contraception coverage mandate.

The president of the U.S. Conference of Bishops is careful to show due respect for the president of the United States. “I was deeply honored that he would call me and discuss these things with me,” says the newly elevated Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York. But when Archbishop Dolan tells me his account of their discussions of the ObamaCare birth-control mandate, Barack Obama sounds imperious and deceitful to me.

Mr. Obama knew that the mandate would pose difficulties for the Catholic Church, so he invited Archbishop Dolan to the Oval Office last November, shortly before the bishops’ General Assembly in Baltimore. At the end of their 45-minute discussion, the archbishop summed up what he understood as the president’s message:

“I said, ‘I’ve heard you say, first of all, that you have immense regard for the work of the Catholic Church in the United States in health care, education and charity. . . . I have heard you say that you are not going to let the administration do anything to impede that work and . . . that you take the protection of the rights of conscience with the utmost seriousness. . . . Does that accurately sum up our conversation?’ [Mr. Obama] said, ‘You bet it does.’”

The archbishop asked for permission to relay the message to the other bishops. “You don’t have my permission, you’ve got my request,” the president replied.

“So you can imagine the chagrin,” Archbishop Dolan continues, “when he called me at the end of January to say that the mandates remain in place and that there would be no substantive change, and that the only thing that he could offer me was that we would have until August. . . . I said, ‘Mr. President, I appreciate the call. Are you saying now that we have until August to introduce to you continual concerns that might trigger a substantive mitigation in these mandates?’ He said, ‘No, the mandates remain. We’re more or less giving you this time to find out how you’re going to be able to comply.’ I said, ‘Well, sir, we don’t need the [extra time]. I can tell you now we’re unable to comply.’”

The administration went ahead and announced the mandate. A public backlash ensued, and the archbishop got another call from the president on Feb. 10. “He said, ‘You will be happy to hear religious institutions do not have to pay for this, that the burden will be on insurers.’” Archbishop Dolan asked if the president was seeking his input and was told the modified policy was a fait accompli. The call came at 9:30 a.m. The president announced the purported accommodation at 12:15 p.m.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:30 am
Usual raving from Maximum Cream overnight I see.

Blogstrop

1 Apr 12 at 7:26 am
I note CL’s comments yesterday on the paucity of the radio personalities like Jones & Hadley. But they do have a redeeming feature: they bring the ABC out in a “collective” rash! They froth, they rant, they hyperventilate over these so-called Shock Jocks who incite their listeners to all manner of wrong thinking about everything. Long may they reign, at least until the ABC is terminated, sold or (most difficult option) completely reformed.

blogstrop

1 Apr 12 at 8:01 am
About the ABC.

I have come to the conclusion that the oly way they ABC can be resolved in a political economy is to demutualise it, by giving each employee equal shares in the company.

You might think it would be better to sell it for government revenue purposes, or even distribute the shares to taxpayers, but that would be opposed. I would be harder for the average ABC type to oppose giving it to the employees, as self interest would come to the fore. The foregone revenue would be more than worth it.

entropy

1 Apr 12 at 8:55 am
or to fine tune it more, shares to every current and former employee still living at the date of the announcement. And open up a uranium mine somewhere hot and remote to keep the hippies occupied.

entropy

1 Apr 12 at 9:19 am
Scroll up to the second comment on this thread.

It’s what Max’s 27 comments here so far have said, only more pithily.

So Maxi, if you ever need a stunt-double…

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 10:22 am
sDog, please don’t encourage the anti-semitic anti-catholic anti-Kenyan troll.

Token

1 Apr 12 at 10:47 am
That pompous, overbearing turd Marr is on Insiders again. I normally watch the show (and it is on softly in the background), but so far I have swept the floors, helped my wife clear up the kitchen, and spent 20 min on the net.

Marr makes the show completely unwatchable.

Roll on the destruction of this ‘government’ of whores, and the privatisation of the ABC.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 10:50 am
entropy

I’d give every citizen 1000 shares in ABC corp. They could do as they please with them.

.

1 Apr 12 at 10:55 am
Speaking of racist, I noticed one of our old friends, Fran Barlow, has been trying to defend that nutty sociologist with the “is not for bullshit I am good english speakink” defence over at the lav.

It’s almost ceratinly an eccentric use of language by a person for whom English is not a first language. As usual, the deniers have ripped a word out of context to make a strawman claim.

I would have thought Norgaard’s D.C. born father and IPCC lead author Richard B. Norgaard might have argued against that.

lotocoti

1 Apr 12 at 11:03 am
Mk50
I turned it off, haven’t watched for a while until last weekend after the Queensalnd rout of the ALP.
Marr is just too annoying, talking over others and being his usual puffed-up, stuffed shirt of arrogance self.

kae

1 Apr 12 at 11:05 am
Watching delicious man fron the IPA on Bolt.

Great way to start a Sunday.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 11:07 am
Piers Ackerman on the Heiner Affair http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/

Having won his historic victory, Newman knows he must work to restore trust in government, and he promised to do so at his first party-room meeting last Monday.

“I hope that the new state parliament will set standards that are better than we’ve seen in the past,” he said, noting however that some people may let down the team.

“I guess the point is we are servants of the people. That’s what we’re here to do, to deliver for the people of Queensland.”

He could do no better than begin by resolving the historic injustice that dogs Queensland politics – the Heiner affair.

and

This is a most serious and important matter.

It now enmeshes Queenslanders at every level of the legal and political system.

It cannot be dealt with by a royal commission. It can be dealt with only by a body that has the power to oversee those who hold the highest offices in the land. And it is clear that the only entity throughout the history of common law to hear such a matter is a commission of inquiry of the parliament.

To restore trust in government, Premier Newman must restore parliamentary responsibility.

For anyone unfamiliar with the Heiner affair Warwick Hughes had a recent post on his blog http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=1336&cpage=1#comment-32631
with links to other relevant material in the comments

Piers says

…. the Labor Party, in Queensland and federally, has put itself above the law.

It has done everything within its power to ensure that the law will not be applied to those who have been in authority. One law for the governed, another for the government.

How well put ‘One law for the governed, another for the government’

I urge all Queenslanders and others to write to Premier Newman insisting on an inquiry into this sad saga of Australian history – my preference would be a Royal Commission but no doubt Piers has reasons for his opinion that a Parliamentary Inquiry is the way to start

val majkus

1 Apr 12 at 11:08 am
Val, you and Piers share a forlorn hope. No one will touch this, not because it is not right but because the Coalition are soft.

John Comnenus

1 Apr 12 at 11:20 am
I note CL’s comments yesterday on the paucity of the radio personalities like Jones & Hadley. But they do have a redeeming feature: they bring the ABC out in a “collective” rash! They froth, they rant, they hyperventilate over these so-called Shock Jocks who incite their listeners to all manner of wrong thinking about everything. Long may they reign, at least until the ABC is terminated, sold or (most difficult option) completely reformed.

Jones should move to the ABC. His socialism would be very welcome there. Hadley’s just an idiotic cab driver with a microphone.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 11:41 am
I just love the fact that hard-line ALP nut Barry Cassidy keeps inviting David Marr back and giving hm limitless rope to hang Labor on boat people.

Because Cassidy actually agrees with Marr he’s blind to how damaging Marr is to Labor.

The glaring stupidity combined with condescension and a total lack of insight is one of the things that’s really endearing about crazed progressive loons

It’s the slightly more subtle variety such as Obummer that are so much more dangerous.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 11:42 am
The crimson coiffured commie cow is on meet the press, I see.

The bogan princess is still lying, of course. She now conflates karbin palloooshun with clyyymut chaaange. She’s just switched clyyymut chaaange for AGW.

The lying cow is so hollow I think she’s a four angstrom surface over pure vacuum.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 11:46 am
Four? That’s a but generous, MK. I refuse to give that screeching harridan airtime at my place.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 11:48 am
One of those Heiner Affair links:

They include Prime Minister Kevin Rudd – Mr Goss’s former chief-of-staff – the Governor-General Quentin Bryce, who took no action after requesting and receiving a report on the affair from then Premier Peter Beattie in 2003, and six serving Queensland judicial officers.

I’ve asked this several times: what “action” was the Governor of Queensland supposed to take? I don’t like Bryce but the continued references to her make me doubt the sincerity of those pursuing this matter. Governors may receive and read reports but they do not take “action” in our system.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 11:50 am
Jones should move to the ABC. His socialism would be very welcome there. Hadley’s just an idiotic cab driver with a microphone.

I agree

Conservative talk radio is huge in the US where the intellectual standard of most of it is inspiring.

The Hadley/Jones& co rubbish here – apart from occasionally wonderful but short guest interviews eh Greg Sheridan – is pedestrian.

That is surely a market underdeveloped here along with the absence of a real conservative broadsheet newspaper or a real conservative cable tv channel.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 11:50 am
Good Grief. 12% of US Millionaires Are Educators

They’re gonna love the Buffet Tax then.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 11:51 am
Obama’s climate of race hatred leads to tragedy:

“Seven black teens have been arrested on suspicion that they committed a hate crime when they attacked a 15-year-old Hispanic boy while he was walking home from school in Southern California, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Office. . . .

During the beating, the teens made racially derogatory statements that were captured on the video, Ford said.”

After the victim fell to the ground, the assailants kicked him multiple times in the head, knocked out several teeth and left shoe impressions on his skin, Ford said.

The victim was able to get to his feet and escape the onslaught, and will need to undergo dental surgery.

It’s OK, though. The victim doesn’t look like Obama.

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/139985/

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 11:59 am
Thank Heavens Meet the Press is over.

My wife was shouting at Juliar on the TV. gee she knows some swear words.

I took notes.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 12:03 pm
Al Sharpton: Civil disobedience will escalate if Zimmerman remains free

“I will speak about how the National Action Network will move to the next level if Zimmerman isn’t arrested,” Sharpton said, who founded the organization.

That’s what endearing about leftists.

The subtlety

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 12:04 pm
So a hispanic kid was killed because of the kenyan’s statements.

Great.

Post racial president.

Jc

1 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
Yawn… FT Friday: Europe warned crisis not over yet

European finance ministers were warned on Friday that the underlying causes of the continent’s debt and banking crisis had yet to be resolved, as Spain, struggling to rein in its fiscal deficit, published its most austere budget since democracy returned after the Franco era.

Two confidential analyses prepared by European Union officials and distributed to ministers meeting in Copenhagen said €1tn in cheap loans to banks provided since December by the European Central Bank had provided a reprieve, but sovereigns and financial institutions needed to use the relative calm to shore up finances and balance sheets.

“Contagion may … re-emerge at very short notice, as demonstrated only a few days ago, and re-launch the potentially perverse triangle between sovereign, bank funding risk and growth,” one of the analyses, prepared by the EU’s economic and finance committee and seen by the Financial Times, said

2 days earlier, Financial Post: Eurozone crisis almost over, Italy PM says

“Spain, I’m sure, is on a steady course of budgetary consolidation,” Monti told reporters in Tokyo, where he arrived from a nuclear security summit in South Korea.

“And contagion as a whole, I hope, will soon belong to the past now that more discipline has been adhered to by most member states, and now that the firewalls are being in the process of being fortified,” he said.

“You all know that the eurozone has gone through a crisis, a huge crisis. I believe this crisis is now almost over,” Monti said

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 12:13 pm
On Thursday’s Ed Schultz Radio Show, yet another idiot Democrat Congresswoman from Illinois, Jan Schakowsky heated up the rhetoric surrounding the Trayvon Martin case by calling it “A Modern-Day Lynching”

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 12:21 pm
The following post contains male (and lesbian) chauvinism that may offend the easily offended as it judges women just by their looks.

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/53537#more-53537

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 12:23 pm
AFL-CIO Executive Vice President Arlene Holt Baker told The Daily Caller that it is “conservative, right-wing policies that are to blame” for Trayvon Martin‘s death.

“The same folks who want to kill workers’ rights in the work place are the same folks who want to kill voters’ votes … and now they are literally supporting legislation that is literally killing our children”

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 12:26 pm
Compare her to Megyn Kelly, a blond with a law degree. Her show draws 1.2 million viewers a day.

She’s really super hot.

The fox gals shit all over the CNN hard lookers.

Jc

1 Apr 12 at 12:33 pm
James

Their leftie loons sound like our leftie loons.

Jc

1 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
From Iowahawk, very interesting video.

How to fund the 2012 $3.9 trillion budget.

Inflammatory Expert Cited

Who does ace motivator Tony Robbins turn to for motivation? Little ol’ inflammatory me, that’s who. Here’s a new video where he revises and updates my post “How to Feed Your Family on $10 Billion Per Day” which my pal Bill Whittle brought to video last year.

Begins in earnest about the 6:50 mark.

The entire video is good.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 1:02 pm
Bill Maher: “The new racism is denying racism.”

So there.

Racists.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 1:04 pm
Bill Maher: “The new racism is denying racism.”

So there.

Racists.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 1:05 pm
Hmmmmm….

A Crime to Use “Any Electronic or Digital Device” “And Use Any Obscene, Lewd or Profane Language” “With Intent to … Offend”?

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 1:11 pm
Wow. Second clip – Newman and Gillard really don’t like each other.

Awkward city.

Either that or it’s instant sexual tension.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 1:14 pm
A Crime to Use “Any Electronic or Digital Device” “And Use Any Obscene, Lewd or Profane Language” “With Intent to … Offend”?

Politicians hate the internet for the same reason cops hate phone cameras. They HATE the accountability, they hate their lack of control and – most of all – they hate the disempowerment and lack of respect for them, our lords and masters.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 1:18 pm
Politicians hate the internet for the same reason cops hate phone cameras. They HATE the accountability, they hate their lack of control and – most of all – they hate the disempowerment and lack of respect for them, our lords and masters.

I think you got it in one, CL.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 1:33 pm
WSJ Op-Ed: The Endless Spending Spree
America’s debt is $15.6 trillion and growing. Instead of raising taxes, here’s an idea: Let’s

From George Washington to Dwight D. Eisenhower, the national debt tended to grow in wartime and shrink in peacetime. Because the dollar was generally convertible into gold or silver at a fixed and statutory rate, the central bank, when there was a central bank, couldn’t just materialize money as the Federal Reserve does today. You had to dig the metal out of the Earth, or entice it into American vaults with money-friendly financial policies. The Treasury could borrow, all right, but not without limit. Wars aside, the government paid its way like a man with a debit card.

Washington, D.C., got its credit card on Sunday, Aug. 15, 1971. Pre-empting the horse opera “Bonanza,” President Richard Nixon told a national television audience that the gold standard, or what little of it remained, was kaput. No more would the dollar be defined in law as 1/35th of an ounce of gold. It would rather be anchored by the good intentions of the people who printed it.

There has never been a credit card quite like the nonmetallic dollar

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 1:37 pm
America’s debt is $15.6 trillion and growing. Instead of raising taxes, here’s an idea: Let’s try capitalism

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 1:38 pm
Incidentally 1 oz Gold = $1660 approx

1/35th of an ounce of gold = $47.50approx

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 1:44 pm
Happy Alpha Proxima Day!

Capping off Human Achievement Week, it’s finally Alpha Proxima Day, when we light up the sky (both day and night) so brightly that Earth outshines the nearby stars, Alpha and Proxima Centauri.

Space aliens observing our local star cluster will be all like “Wow! Did you see that? Either there was a supernova, or somebody really hates hippies!”

Speaking of hippies, I guess they’re doing something today, too – Dirt Hour or Darkness Hour or whatever – at 8:30pm.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 1:45 pm
Steyn speaketh: Swingin’ Kennedy

Three words: Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Finding herself with a bit of time on her hands, Justice Ginsburg swung by Cairo last month to help out the lads from the Muslim Brotherhood building the new Egypt: “I would not look to the United States Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,” she advised them. Instead, she recommended the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the European Convention on Human Rights. That’s why the fate of the republic will come down to a 5–4 vote. Because four-ninths of the constitutional court think the American constitutional order is as déclassé as a 2006 BlackBerry.

“There seems to be an inverse relationship between written instruments of freedom, such as a Charter, and freedom itself,” mused George Jonas. “It’s as if freedom were too fragile to be put into words: If you write down your rights and freedoms, you lose them.” That was generally the view of the Britannic part of the English-speaking world until the late 20th century: What’s unwritten is as important as, if not more so than, what is. The constitution of Australia, for example, makes no mention of the office of prime minister. The job exists only through custom and convention…..

The United States is the only Western nation in which our rulers invoke the Constitution for the purpose of overriding it — or, at any rate, torturing its language beyond repair. Thus, in this week’s debate on whether Obamacare is merely the latest harmless evolution of the interstate-commerce clause, the most learned and highly remunerated jurists in the land chewed over the matter of whether a person, simply by virtue of being born, was participating in a “market.” Had George III shown up at the Constitutional Convention to advance that argument with a straight face, the framers would have tossed aside the quill feathers and reached for their muskets.

A land of laws decays almost imperceptibly into a land of legalisms, which is why America has 50 percent of the world’s lawyers. Like most of his colleagues, lifetime legislator John Conyers (a congressman for 47 years) didn’t bother reading the 2,700-page health-care bill he voted for. As he said with disarming honesty, he wouldn’t understand it even if he did: “They get up and say, ‘Read the bill.’ What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

It would be churlish to direct readers to the video posted on the Internet of Representative Conyers finding time to peruse a copy of Playboy while on a commuter flight to Detroit.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 2:04 pm
WANT.

To use as a barbecue. For Earth Hour next year.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 2:11 pm
I’ve got one, sdog.
Well, it’s not exactly the same – it’s a 240mm truck rim of steel, sitting on a steel plate, which sits on a 14 inch wheel rim.
It’s very similar.
PS. It smoked like shit until the tyres burnt away, but it’s fine now. And the steel wire adds a very artistic touch to the work.

Winston Smith

1 Apr 12 at 2:19 pm
Now I have barbecue envy. Also, I need bacon.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 2:31 pm
I liked this bit, JamesK:

A 2,700-page law is not a “law” by any civilized understanding of the term.

Law rests on the principle of equality before it. When a bill is 2,700 pages, there’s no equality: Instead, there’s a hierarchy of privilege micro-regulated by an unelected, unaccountable, unconstrained, unknown, and unnumbered bureaucracy. It’s not just that the legislators who legislate it don’t know what’s in it, nor that the citizens on the receiving end can never hope to understand it, but that even the nation’s most eminent judges acknowledge that it is beyond individual human comprehension.

A 2,700-page law is, by definition, an affront to self-government.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 2:33 pm
Latest Rasmussen poll has Romney and the Kenyan neck and neck. Ominously it’s 46 apiece which is not good for the Kenyan.

The undecided will break against him.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

Jc

1 Apr 12 at 3:15 pm
Low IQ & Liberal Beliefs Linked To Poor Research?

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=5118

the study is torn apart. Lol

JC

1 Apr 12 at 3:34 pm
You all know how conventional wisdom suggested China was about to hard land and I suggested this stuff is impossible to predict.

Chinese PMI came out this weekend (purchasing managers report) used as a marker for economic contraction or expansion.

It shows:

China’s official purchasing managers’ index (PMI) unexpectedly jumped in March t o an 11-month highs of 53.1, the government said on Sunday, as surprisingly firm demand boosted new orders and new export orders for factories.

Analysts had forecast the PMI, which previews China’s vast factory sector before official industrial production data, to dip at 50.5.

The new orders sub-index climbed to 55.1 in March from February’s 51 points, the National Bureau of Statistics said, while the sub-index for new export orders was up at 51.9, compared with February’s 51.1.

The latest PMI reading suggests Chinese factories are not struggling as much as some reports indicated. HSBC’s Flash PMI released last week had shown factory activity slowing for the fifth straight month in March as new orders sunk to four-month lows.

Following conventional wisdom gets people into trouble.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 3:38 pm
The death of good man Lionel Bowen really emphasises how far down the toilet Labor has gone.

He was deputy prime minister and Attorney-General to Bob Hawke.

Those three positions now, respectively: Nicola Roxon, Wayne Swan, Julia Gillard.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 3:57 pm
Its amazing how much love for Labor there is after the fact and how little love there is at the time, especially given that Labor becomes ever more right wing.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 4:04 pm
Sod off swampy.

Sdog.

Mmmmmmm. Bacon

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 4:11 pm
So Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard are to the right of Bob Hawke and Paul Keating?

Apart from being his usual loathsome morally-moribund skunk act, minnie here is demonstrating he’s as thick as the proverbial two short planks

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:11 pm
Rathergate II:

‘He Looks Black’ – NBC Launching Investigation into Selective Editing of Zimmerman Police Tape.

Notice how the left ALWAYS has to lie for their causes?

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 4:12 pm
Bob:

Stop being a moron. With few exceptions, very few people here have said there was much wrong with the Hawke Administration particularly the first 2 governments formed by him and in fact it was a brilliant cabinet in some ways, although a lot of the hard work had been done for them.

They were a reforming government and as Cl has correctly alluded, they were despised by the regular lefties of the time because of their genuine reforms that raised living standards and made the country a better more flexible and open place.

If you even try and compare this lot of losers and liars to them, you will be laughed off this blog.

Bowen was a good guy and the comparison upthread with Nicola Von Roxon, Shane Wand and the lying slapper is very funny. They couldn’t clean Bowen’s toilet.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:13 pm
A 2,700-page law is, by definition, an affront to self-government.

With Steyn it’s difficult to leave out a sentence.

He’s brilliant.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:14 pm
Zimmerman: “White-Hispanic”

Probably, a “Zionist” too. Notice the name? Shalom.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 4:15 pm
Q: Is he black, hispanic or white?

A: He’s black

Leftist: Waaaaasist!

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:16 pm
Apart from being his usual loathsome morally-moribund skunk act, minnie here is demonstrating he’s as thick as the proverbial two short planks

It’s the Bobster, so what do you expect. Let me remind you.

BOB ELLIS: Are you aware of a device which is being trialled in Queensland where coal smoke goes into a bloody great pipe and then into a shallow lake, which is 30 hectares, in which grows a weed which eats 90 per cent of the filth and then it dies and it’s compressed into bricks, which then feeds the non-coal power? Are you aware of this one?

PENNY WONG: Look, not of that specific technology.

BOB ELLIS: Well, why not? It’s being trialled. It’s being trialled by the Queensland Labor government.

PENNY WONG: And we may well be funding…

BOB ELLIS: Who are you talking to?

PENNY WONG: Well, I talk to a lot of people, Bob, actually…

BOB ELLIS: Yes.

PENNY WONG: …and I’m quite happy to introduce you to some of them if you’d like.

BOB ELLIS: Bureaucrats. Procrastinators.

Hey bob, what happened to the “bricks”?

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:16 pm
You like Hawke and Keating because they did your work for you.

Hawke invented the Accord and wanted a strong industry policy.

Guillard’s labour and industry policy is much less interventionist.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 4:20 pm
Let’s be honest, in the Hawke government Swan and Gillard would be serving coffee.

No, wait.

Swan would even fuck that up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLttYdJB2FQ

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 4:20 pm
The term “White-Hispanic” wa usued in an original NYT report. It t history.

They got so much blow-back that they haven’t repeated it but CNN et al having beeen given the green light from the NYT started using the term.

The White-Black Kenyan says Treyvon looks like the son he never had but yearns for or somesuch

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:21 pm
The term “White-Hispanic” was usued in an original NYT report.

It is a term never before used in its 150 year odd history.

The NYT got so much blow-back that they haven’t repeated it but CNN et al having beeen given the green light from the NYT started using the term.

Then the ‘White-Black’ Kenyan says Treyvon looks like the son he never had but yearns for or somesuch

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:23 pm
The uber-cool David Marr tore Piers Zimmerframe a new one on Insiders today. We all fell about giggling.

Marr was all delicious condescension. Like all of us we’d lurve to see Barney Rubble as PM in the Silly Season. Would liven things up no end.

Nice to see the compere waving Abbott off on his annual bike ride to cheers of ‘on yer bike boyo’.

Kelly of Kenmore

1 Apr 12 at 4:28 pm
Santorum likes the term ‘government nigger’ and Zimmerman is keen on ‘coon’.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 4:28 pm
You like Hawke and Keating because they did your work for you.

For me? You’re too kind bobster. They worked for all Australians and did a pretty decent job in the first two administrations.

Hawke invented the Accord and wanted a strong industry policy.

That was his worst policy incidentally.

Guillard’s labour and industry policy is much less interventionist.

Lol Non-interventionist like giving it to the school of union sharks called the FWA and introducing 70′s style awards, yea?

Bobster, you’re such a goose.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:34 pm
I get the uncomfortable feeling that Kenmore is Bird’s sycophantic trannie all oiled up and ready to troll.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:34 pm
JC

The lawyer shot back a letter asking his attorney if would be so kind as to explain what his client thought was wrong with Mexicans. There was no reply.

You should have got some people from your firm to claim, that as Mexicans, they felt threatened in the work place by the presence of this racist Cuban dude.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 4:35 pm
Santorum likes the term ‘government nigger’

Bobster, it doesn’t even make sense.

Stop looking for a waaaaacist under every bed.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:36 pm
Patton:

It was the funniest thing. The stupid lawyer set a trap for himself and didn’t even realize it.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:37 pm
30

JC

1 Apr 12 at 4:39 pm
James

I don’t know about the NYT but the term ‘white-Hispanic’ has been around for a while now. You will even find it an option on forms, which have a race box for you to tick. I don’t this for certain, but I think it is also an option on US census forms. But don’t quote me on that.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 4:39 pm
Yes, white-Hispanic seems an official government category in the us, so if nyt is wrong it only reflects what’s wrong with america.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 4:45 pm
Yes Peter, I’m guilty of some hyperbole but not much

Wa-Po blog’s Erik Wemple is an editor-turned-blogger who blogs on media:

Why did New York Times call George Zimmerman ‘white Hispanic’?

Q.E.D.: Use of the term in the New York Times archives is rare. Phil Corbett, the paper’s standards editor, concedes that “white Hispanic” and ”white and Hispanic” are “not very commonly used.” That said, Corbett notes:

Our guidelines say we mention race or ethnicity if and only if it’s pertinent to the story. Given that this is being investigated as a possible civil-rights case and has stirred protests in part because of concerns about racial elements, it seems clear that race and ethnicity are pertinent, for both people involved.

Yet determining how to describe Zimmerman requires some thinking. “There are no absolute, clear-cut rules on this,” writes Corbett via e-mail. “People often treat white, black and Hispanic as three parallel categories, but it’s not always that simple. As you know, Hispanic people can be different races. As I understand it, Zimmerman’s father is a non-Hispanic white, and his mother is a Peruvian immigrant.”

“White Hispanic” and other such terms, relates Corbett, didn’t work too well. “Some readers seemed to find them distracting or confusing, or to wonder whether we were trying to make some larger point (we weren’t). Eventually we decided that simply calling him Hispanic was probably clear enough, especially since by now most readers are familiar with him and the case. So that’s what we’ve mostly been doing.”

And as for the bigger-picture conspiracies alleged by Goldberg and Goldberg? “To suggest that our coverage of this story or our description of Mr. Zimmerman is intended to serve an agenda or push a political view is simply ridiculous. It’s just false,” responds Corbett.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:48 pm
Yes, white-Hispanic seems an official government category in the us, so if nyt is wrong it only reflects what’s wrong with america.

Seriously minnie, ur scum.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:50 pm
Notice how the left ALWAYS has to lie for their causes?

Of course they do, when self-deception is at your core then lying to others is a natural extension of that.

Irving J

1 Apr 12 at 4:50 pm
Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism in NRO:

Playing the Race Card Again
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and all the usual suspects exploit the Trayvon Martin story.

‘White Hispanic.” That’s how the New York Times, Reuters, and other media outlets have opted to describe George Zimmerman, a man who would simply be Hispanic if he hadn’t shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The term, rarely if ever used before this tragedy, is necessary in telling the Martin story in a more comfortable way.

What’s the comfortable way? It’s the way the blame for Martin’s death belongs squarely at the feet of “the system.” And “the system” is a white thing, don’t you know?

For instance, in a remarkably uncritical interview with the Los Angeles Times, the Reverend Jesse Jackson explained that with the election of President Obama, “there was this feeling that we were kind of beyond racism.” He continued: “That’s not true. His victory has triggered tremendous backlash.” Indeed, “blacks are under attack.”

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 4:53 pm
Tough but fair James

Jc　

1 Apr 12 at 4:54 pm
James

Personally, I think that no matter what ceunsus forms might say, the use of ‘white-Hispanic’ by the NYT made my skin crawl. I do not think all this increasing fetishization of ‘identity’ is doing anybody any good, especially those folks brainwashed into labeling themselves in these ways as some form of liberation.

The irony is that the very same people who make the most hay out of this form of ‘identity discourse’ are the same people who bang on about ‘the discredited 19th century notion of biological race’. Well, hun ‘white hispanic’ isn’t exactly a reference to your enjoyment of ten-pin bowling. ‘White Hispanic’ is just doubling the authority of biological determinants of identity.

Dopey putzes.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 4:56 pm
You will even find it an option on forms, which have a race box for you to tick.

Pete, is there a category as below?

“White-Black”.

odumbo could tick that box, the stupid waaaaacist shitsack.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 5:05 pm
Once ordinary blacks in America realise:

1. that America is the least racist country in the world presently (along with Australia) and

2. that Democrats treat them as second class citizens

3. that the hoodie, pants below the bum-crease without belt and sports shoes without tied laces and ebonics is not a true or wholesome reflection of black-American culture….

then the Democrat Party will be out of power for at least a generation

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:07 pm
Coming up on April 3.

Wisconsin

Mitt Romney remains favored to win next Tuesday’s Wisconsin primary, which is arguably Rick Santorum’s last chance to prove he’s competitive. A new NBC-Marist poll shows Romney with 40 percent support, Rick Santorum with 33 percent, Ron Paul with 11 percent and Newt Gingrich with just 8 percent.

Maryland

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters in Maryland shows Romney with 45 percent support to Santorum’s 28 percent. Twelve percent favor former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, while Texas Congressman Ron Paul earns seven percent of the vote. Two percent like another candidate in the race, and six percent are undecided.

And then there’s D.C, which Romney will win.

All of these primaries are Winner Takes All, meaning that Romney will extend his lead by 98 delegates on Tuesday. The count will be:

Romney 664
Santorum 263
Gingrich 140
Paul 67

I hope Santorum sees the writing on the wall.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 5:09 pm
Gold.

Via Bolt – a pair of unextincted extratesticles attempt to utilise an earthian telephone.

Hilarity ensues…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 5:12 pm
Juan Williams, WSJ: The Trayvon Martin Tragedies

The recent killing of Trayvon Martin needs more investigation. But where’s the outrage over the daily scourge of black-on-black crime?

The race-baiters argue this case deserves special attention because it fits the mold of white-on-black violence that fills the history books. Some have drawn a comparison to the murder of Emmett Till, a black boy who was killed in 1955 by white racists for whistling at a white woman.

The Martin case is very different from the Emmett Till case, in which a white segregationist Mississippi society approved of the murder of a black child. Black America needs to get out of the rut of replaying racial injustices of the past.

All minority parents fear that children who embrace “gangsta” fashion, tattoos and a thug attitude will be prejudged as criminal.

Recall what Jesse Jackson once said: “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . . After all we have been through. Just to think we can’t walk down our own streets, how humiliating.”……….

The most recent comprehensive study on black-on-black crime from the Justice Department should have been a clarion call for the black community to take action. There is no reason to believe that the trends it reported have decreased since 2005, the year for which the data were reported.

Almost one half of the nation’s murder victims that year were black and a majority of them were between the ages of 17 and 29. Black people accounted for 13% of the total U.S. population in 2005. Yet they were the victims of 49% of all the nation’s murders. And 93% of black murder victims were killed by other black people, according to the same report.

Less than half of black students graduate from high school. The education system’s failure is often a jail sentence or even a death sentence. The Orlando Sentinel has reported that 17-year-old Martin was recently suspended from his high school. According to the U.S. Department of Education’s Civil Rights Office, in the 2006-07 school year, 22% of all black and Hispanic K-12 students were suspended at least once (as compared to 5% of whites).

This year 22% of blacks live below the poverty line and a shocking 72% of black babies are born to unwed mothers. The national unemployment rate for black people increased last month to over 13%, nearly five points above the average for all Americans.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:16 pm
Fisk

I’m feeling good that Romney will take the presidency in November.

The betting markets are taking n the silly money like they were here in the last election for labor until the last few days of te campaign.

Romney’s speeches are also getting better too and Ryan’s endorsement counts.

Jc

1 Apr 12 at 5:16 pm
They couldn’t just call him hispanic, because then it’s just one oppressed minority against another, best to link him to white overlords.

Irving J

1 Apr 12 at 5:18 pm
I hope Santorum sees the writing on the wall.

Apart from arguable delegate counts, what do you hope for Gingrish Fisky?

You know: the conservative who has delivered Romney the lead?

I think if Santorum believes he can win this he needs to stay in.

Romney is a woeful choice as the nominee.

Woeful.

He is a considerably worse candidiate in my eyes now than he was in January.

I’ll back Romney to the hilt when he gets greater that 50% of the delegates or Santorum withdraws.

Not before.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:22 pm
I think Hispanic can be a useful label, coz there really is such a thing as a culture whose language is Spanish, religion is Roman Catholic (even if decreasingly Roman), whose roots are in the former Spanish colonies of South/central America (aka Latin America). But those are cultural features, which refer to salsa; and to saltry, buxom wenches putting their best assets out there by adornments such as large Xian crosses as necklaces; and dudes with long black curly hair and brown eyes who kiss each other in front of 100,000 people every time they kick a ball into goal.

The way the NYT has used the word is not very illuminating, except to the extent it reveals that the real subject of their thinking is black people. Setting the story up as black vs. white has a proud long history, but that would involve snuffing out the pride a lot of people in Florida feel for their – very recent – roots, and the culture they had brought with them (especially, their language, Spanish).

So, why couldn’t the NYT have just described Zimmerman as Hispanic? Because if they did, their narrative frame would have kept the same drama of white vs. black, except made the conflict ‘hispanic vs. black’. This would have been putting out the fire with gasoline for 3 reasons: (i) it makes blacks even more beleaguered by suggesting that hispanics have joined whites in oppressing blacks, which would have (ii) taken away a lot of the power of hispanics to claim status as a ‘minority’ and victims of colonial/white/blah racism equal to that of blacks, and (iii) would have shone unwelcome light on the fact that right across the US, there is tons of black vs. ‘Latino’ conflict, distrust, hatred, and violence.

It is easier, and probably less dangerous, to try to fit it all into a familiar narrative of ‘white vs. black’. Unfortunately, their choice of ‘white Hispanic’ has backfired, with all the contradictions this hyphen identity hoped to cover up, have instead been peeled back for all to scavenge over.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 5:22 pm
By the way hispanics are included in the ‘whites’ category for criminal statistics for a long time because so few whites committed crimes and with the inclusion of hispanics in the ‘white’ crime statistics the differences between black and white were ameliorated somewhat.

This dishonesty in dealing with the problem of the destruction of the black family since Martin Luther King died is not only a tragedy but an American disgrace.

The last Democrat to be constructive was Daniel Patrick Moynihan

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:28 pm
In fact, after next Tuesday, Santorum will already need over 75% of the remaining delegates. At the end of April, there will be 869 delegates remaining to be allocated. So even if Santorum takes 100 out of April’s nearly 400 delegates (which he probably won’t), leaving him on 363, he will need to win 90% of the remaining delegates through May and June to take the nomination.

By May 15, I predict it will be mathematically impossible for Santorum to win. As that is almost certainly going to be the case, he must withdraw now.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 5:29 pm
A link to “Draw and STRIKE!” about the Liberal mind and how stuffed up it is.

Winston Smith

1 Apr 12 at 5:32 pm
By May 15, I predict it will be mathematically impossible for Santorum to win

I think santorum believes it’s mathematically impossible for him to him now Fisky.

He reckons there’s a good chance Romney is not going to ‘win’ either.

Santorum will win Texas that’ much seems certain.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:33 pm
Will Jerusalem remain the capital of Israel?

Obama in 2008.

But that was then, this is now.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 5:36 pm
Gab

It’s not up to Obama. It’s up to the Israelis, as it always has been.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 5:39 pm
I never said it was up to Obama, Peter.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 5:40 pm
Santorum will probably win Texas in single digits. But there is one problem. It is a proportional primary, meaning that Romney will walk away with lots of the delegates anyway. So that’s another 60-70 delegates to Romney from Texas. Most of the Southern states in May are proportional primaries, so even if Santorum wins, he still loses!

After that is California, a closed winner-takes-all primary of 172 delegates. If Romney isn’t already over the line by then, California will undoubtedly get him there.

Santorum is DOOMED.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 5:41 pm
By the way hispanics are included in the ‘whites’ category for criminal statistics for a long time because so few whites committed crimes and with the inclusion of hispanics in the ‘white’ crime statistics the differences between black and white were ameliorated somewhat.

They are counted as white because most are descended predominately from Europeans.

AJ

1 Apr 12 at 5:43 pm
Santorum will probably win Texas in single digits

Why?

Comfortable double digits on present polling

He should win the overwhelming majority of Texas delegates under their rules.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:45 pm
Debating you fisky is probably a waste of time.

If you have something original to say or new evidence, I’ll listen.

The past week was all about Obamacare and the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate championed and encouraged by Romney as a national solution.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:48 pm
Let’s go over this again. At the end of April, Romney will have over 800 delegates. There are 430 delegates up for grabs in May. Only one is winner-takes-all. Romney will get at least a third of the May delegates (conservatively), bringing him up to 950.

California votes on June 5, in a winner-takes-all primary of 172 delegates. That will push him over 1,120. There are another 167 delegates for the taking in June, and he only needs 25 of those to win the nomination.

That’s all pretty conservative. The likely scenario is that California will be more than enough to clinch it.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 5:50 pm
Let’s go over this again

Let’s not.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 5:54 pm
No, the last Texas poll was in mid-March showing Santorum 8 points ahead. However, a Rasmussen around the same time put Romney ahead by 2.

Santorum is DOOMED.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 5:55 pm
DOOM DOOM DOOM!

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 5:56 pm
Do you wear holy underwear when u blog Fisky?

Were ur and Snoremitten respective forefathers related on the planet of origin?

Or do you just hate catholics?

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:04 pm
To be fair, Santorum does have a chance. He needs to come out and call the President a “nigger usurper” (in fact he very nearly did this the other day). He could even seek out David Duke’s endorsement and promise him a VP slot.

I think that will really get the base fired up and they’ll turn out in droves.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 6:10 pm
Or he could play “Dixie” at his next campaign event and pronounce, “I don’t want to give more money to black people” again, like he did a couple of months ago. That will do the trick.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 6:14 pm
Romney’s official Mormon apartheid policy towards soulless blacks should go over a treat in the cities.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 6:17 pm
WP-ABC Poll: Poll: Romney Support Continues to Erode

GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney’s rating with the American public continues to erode, with just 34 percent viewing him favorably and 50 percent holding an unfavorable opinion, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll found. That’s the lowest level for any leading presidential candidate during the primary season since 1984.

The pattern is similar to when the former Massachusetts governor ran four years ago and polls showed his negative ratings rising as he became better known. The total of 50 percent of adults — and 52 percent of registered voters — who view Romney unfavorably is a higher percentage than President Barack Obama has ever received.

Obama, however, is viewed favorably by 53 percent and unfavorably by 43 percent., the Washington Post-ABC News poll shows. This marks the third consecutive month in which Obama’s favorability has totaled more than 50 percent, after falling to 47 percent in September, the low of Obama’s presidency.

Polling showed that unlike Romney, Obama’s numbers improved as the campaign season progressed in his run for the Democratic nomination in 2008.

Among independents in the new poll, Romney is viewed favorably by 35 percent and unfavorably by 52 percent. Among independents four years ago, Obama hit his low point in mid-April 2008, when 57 percent said they had favorable impressions and 37 percent had unfavorable ones.

Among independents this year, Obama is viewed favorably by 50 percent and unfavorably by 46 percent in the poll that surveyed 1,016 adults March 21 to 25.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:23 pm
Yes, but swinging voters don’t care about ancient history like that. They are already behind Romney. And blacks will vote Democratic regardless of who the nominee is.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 6:24 pm
Further breakdown of same polling:

THE CENTER — Obama also leads Romney in favorable ratings among independents and political moderates. The former, in particular, customarily is a decisive swing-voting group in presidential elections. Half of independents see Obama favorably, 15 points ahead of Romney.

Romney’s negative rating among independents, at 52 percent, is a new high for him in this group. Obama though, is not far behind, seen unfavorably by 46 percent of independents. And 12 percent of independents are undecided about Romney, vs. 4 percent on Obama.

Obama’s rating among moderates is more broadly positive, 61-34 percent favorable-unfavorable. Romney, by contrast, has a net negative score among moderates — more see him unfavorably, 48 percent, than favorably, 35 percent, with 18 percent undecided.

OTHER GROUPS — Among other groups, Romney’s rated favorably by 44 percent of Americans with incomes of $100,000 or more, 13 points better than his score among those with less-than middle incomes. Obama’s favorable ratings exceed 50 percent across income groups.

There’s also a bit of a gender gap for Romney, with favorable ratings of 38 percent among men vs. 30 percent among women. Obama’s positive ratings again break 50 percent in both groups.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:27 pm
What’s Santorum’s support amongst the general public, James? I’d estimate small to non-existent. Outside of the evangelical community, he has got a chance in hell. He can’t win anywhere where conservative evangelicals don’t form a large majority. He’s not going to win the GOP nomination, which is good for the GOP, because he has no chance of winning a general election short of Obama caught raping a goat live on tv. And even then it’d depend on if the goat was male.

Quentin George

1 Apr 12 at 6:28 pm
Independent voters will be horrified by Santorum calling the President an “anti-war nigg…”. It’s just as well Romney will be the nominee.

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 6:28 pm
I’m feeling good that Romney will take the presidency in November.

Several months is a long time, JC.

Romney has a record as a big game loser and almost everyone in the Republican Party hates him.

To get cheap laughs from California liberals, he described Santorum as a potential “press secretary” on Jay Leno last week. It showed he has no class, hates conservative Christians (just as he hates Ronald Reagan) and could well be boycotted by many GOP voters. Many won’t stand for another oddball non-Christian cult member in the White House.

OK, so all religions have otherworldly belief systems from the standpoint of purely secularist realities. But a man who believes that when he dies he’ll be given his own planet where he’ll reign wearing sacred underpants?

You don’t want a man like that with his finger on the button.

Or contol of the NASA budget.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 6:29 pm
Yes, but swinging voters don’t care about ancient history like that. They are already behind Romney

If by ‘swinging’ you mean moderates, independents and single women, Fisky – apparently not

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:29 pm
JC,

I think you will be disappointed by Romney in November. I want him to win, but I doubt he will. I hope I am wrong.

John Comnenus

1 Apr 12 at 6:38 pm
What’s Santorum’s support amongst the general public, James? I’d estimate small to non-existent.

Well he’s not expected to win so there’s no polling.

What I can say confidently is that what you’d “estimate” is patently incorrect.

Santorum bettered Romney in Obama matchups in swing states overall a month ago in Rasmussen polls.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:38 pm
Independent voters will be horrified by Santorum calling the President an “anti-war nigg…”. It’s just as well Romney will be the nominee.

It took you longer than usual to scrape the barrel Fisky.

Well done.

I still think leftism is a better natural fit for you, Fisky.

Besides Harry Reid is mormon too.

Mind you I don’t think Harry is any more anti-catholic bigoted than the Dem norm

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:42 pm
You don’t want a man like that with his finger on the button.

Or contol of the NASA budget.

NASA’s budget should be zero.

Infidel Tiger

1 Apr 12 at 6:43 pm
NASA’s budget should be zero.

But…but how are they going to fund Muslim outreach?

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:46 pm
Sorry James are you denying that Rick called Barry an ‘anti-war nigg’?

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 6:46 pm
CL, John..

This is a relative trade not an absolute one. I just this idiot out of the White House ASAP.

I think Romney can win. I really think he can.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 6:49 pm
Sorry James are you denying that Rick called Barry an ‘anti-war nigg’?

Were you apologising just then Fisky?

I’d suggest since you raised an offense that would see Santorum lynched at his next campaign event you should supply the direct reference, Fisky.

I realise honesty is difficult for you, Fisky.

It’s one the reasons I beg you to reconsider ur poltical leanings.

I really think on so many levels leftism is your natural game.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:51 pm
Sorry James are you denying that Rick called Barry an ‘anti-war nigg’?

Can I ask, why you think that. The word was garbled and I can’t see what gain Santorum would have by calling him the “n” word with the mike and camera rolling. There is no possible reason Santorum would utter that word.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 6:51 pm
actually… no rational reason, rather than possible.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 6:51 pm
There’s also a bit of a gender gap for Romney, with favorable ratings of 38 percent among men vs. 30 percent among women. Obama’s positive ratings again break 50 percent in both groups.

Gender gap is an amusing concept and it always seems to apply to The Right and not the left.

The Kenyan also has a gender too. More men vote GOP than women.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 6:54 pm
We all agree that Santorum is the worst possible choice for President and if he had a shred of self awareness would end his dooomed campaigned. However, he did not call the current Marxist in Chief a nigger.

Infidel Tiger

1 Apr 12 at 6:54 pm
We all agree that Santorum is the worst possible choice for President

Royal ‘We’ IT?

I’m sure that’s not appropriate.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 6:56 pm
I played the vid several times.

Santorum’s words sounded as Government ‘nink”….

I think he was trying to use some combo like refusnik or something like that.

He never uttered anything close to “n”

JC

1 Apr 12 at 7:01 pm
The Kenyan also has a gender too. More men vote GOP than women.

True but Santorum is wildly the most popular candidate among coservative women.

Also one of Romney’s advantages was supposed to be that he could cut the massive lead Obamama held with the single women votes.

The perceived rationale for the ‘contraception’ issue being manufqactured by Dems was to win them back.

But it’s not that they like Romney but that more and more of them dislike Obama and his lead in that category is closing.

Also Romney’s lead in that category over Santorum in that category is reducing particularly the youthful singles.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:03 pm
Bingo… I swear I only looked at this after I posted the resnik comment.

Even the leftwing Guardian seems to think that Santorum was trying to splice some words to together to create something like refusnik.

Did Rick Santorum really just come within a few micro-seconds of calling America’s first ever black president a “nigger”?

Of course not, comes the rational response. Apart from the fact that it would instantly be a campaign-killing gaffe, it would be in direct opposition to the Santorum image we have seen now for months. This is the man who is almost two goody-two-shoes to be real. He has a large and loving family. He may be ultra-conservative, but he also appears to be the sort of suburban dad who would be more likely to say “Aw, shucks” and “Jeepers creepers” rather than deploy the most offensive word in the English language. He wears sweater vests!

But about that video. What is going on there?

Santorum was speaking at a rally in Janesville, Wisconsin, still locked in the ferocious nomination battle with Mitt Romney and still desperate to become the true conservative standard-bearer of the Republican party.

“We know the candidate Barack Obama, what he was like – the anti-war government nig …” he seems to say, then suddenly stopping, and changing tack to add: “America was a source for division around the world, that what we were doing was wrong.”

It is hard to think of exactly what word Santorum was about to use. What word beginning with “nig-” comes naturally after government? It has been suggested he was trying to say “-nik”, as in peacenik or beatnik. That is possible. Or perhaps, it was some non-specific verbal tic: a random vowel-consonent flub.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 7:06 pm
Leftheads..

This is a rightie discussion, so don’t even think of getting involved, as no one needs your fucking opinion.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 7:08 pm
Actually here is the pdf linked official ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST POLL I quoted other sources earlier with heading and opening paragrph.

ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST POLL: Favorability #20
EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE AFTER 7 a.m. Tuesday, March 20, 2012

For Santorum, a High in the GOP;
For Gingrich: Trouble with Women

Rick Santorum reached a new high in favorable ratings from Republicans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, numerically outpointing Mitt Romney among party regulars. But both remain underwater more broadly, a sign of the toll of their contentious primary campaign.
And then there’s the thrice-married Newt Gingrich, resoundingly rejected, in particular, by women: A mere 19 percent of them see him favorably, vs. a remarkable 60 percent unfavorably. He’s also unpopular among men, by a less garish but still-wide 23-point margin.
Within the GOP, 63 percent express a favorable opinion of Santorum, vs. 58 percent for Romney – not a statistically significant difference, but a challenging one for Romney given his advantages in campaign spending and, until recently, name recognition. Gingrich trails with just 43 percent favorability in his own party, a point from his low two weeks ago.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:13 pm
“We all agree that Santorum is the worst possible choice for President”

Anyone who believes in limited government does, anyway.

One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right.

They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues.

That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.

Jarrah

1 Apr 12 at 7:14 pm
I think Santorum would be no worse as President than Romney, and likely better. Whether he is more electable is a different question, but even here I’m not sure he is clearly worse than Romney.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 7:15 pm
‘anti-war nigg’?

Watch teh video again, people.

We discussed* this topic last night.

*As much as you can discuss anything with min squeak…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 7:15 pm
Anyone who believes in limited government does, anyway.

I believe in limited government Jarrah and as usual I see ur typing crapology.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:19 pm
Anyone who believes in limited government does, anyway.

Not at all. There isn’t much in that quotation to frighten anyone that supports limited government.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 7:22 pm
Look I have no doubt that Santorum is a good husband, a fair father and a respectable break dancer, however, we must all agree that he would be a terrible President. Perhaps only Woodrow Wilson’s exhumed corpse would be worse.

Infidel Tiger

1 Apr 12 at 7:22 pm
“I believe in limited government Jarrah”

So how can you support Santorum?

“I see ur typing crapology”

The irony is twofold – you typed ‘ur’ and I typed Santorum’s own words.

Jarrah

1 Apr 12 at 7:22 pm
No no you have all got this wrong. I am not claiming that Santorum called Obama a ‘nigger’. I made it clear that the term was ‘nigg…’. I must admit I do not know what that word means. Could someone help me?

Fisky

1 Apr 12 at 7:24 pm
Can I say that Obaam’s live mic convesation with Medvedev alone will see him sink in the general election.

It’s not got airplay or serious ceriticism in the msm but it ain’t gonna go away.

It’s the declared reason why Marco Rubio said he decided to endorse Romney.

I think either Santorum or Romney will win.

I think Santorum would be a better President but more importantly a better candidate than Romney.

Lastly as soon as the GOP cnadidate is ‘crownmed’ before or after the Convention in Florida the Dem negative MSM coverage ramps up and the $1 billion negative tv ads start.

Better that be forced to wait for as long as possible imho.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:30 pm
“We know the candidate bollocks odumbo, what he was like – the anti-war government niggah.”

Yep, it just makes so much sense. No wonder he didn’t say it.

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 7:30 pm
So how can you support Santorum?

For the same reason I’d support Romney but less intensely

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:33 pm
That is not how traditional conservatives view the world.

Earth to InSanitorium. “Traditional” does not mean 1980, and even conservatives have moved on from Tammy Baker and the gang. It’s Bullshit, man! Dude, the Reagan era has been and gone; his work done. So, why don’t you put on your fluffy slippers, and go back to watching My Three Sons, and Leave It to Beaver? Leave the 21st century to the grown-ups. Please.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 7:35 pm
Yes, the ‘grown-ups’ seem to be on top of things at the moment don’t they.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 7:39 pm
Perhaps only Woodrow Wilson’s exhumed corpse would be worse.

What about a Jimmy Carter comeback?

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 7:39 pm
What precisely are you frightened of Peter?

Santorum has a long history in elected state and natiuonal office.

Tell us what has so ruffled ur fine sensibilities and why.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:40 pm
Let’s keep 80s music though.

.

1 Apr 12 at 7:40 pm
So how can you support Santorum?

1. He wants to lower the corporate tax rate to 17% and zero for manufacturing. While I think the distortion is not great, it certainly is in the right direction.

2. Repeal Odumbocare

3. pay down the deficit faster then the others.

4. eliminate certain government departments.

5. Eliminate AGW related regulations.

He’s not libertarian by the long shot, but to place a big government sticker on him is dishonest on a relative basis. Not surprising coming from you Jazzabelle.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 7:41 pm
Let’s keep 80s music though.

Let’s not

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 7:41 pm
dot

Indeed. Perhaps Newt Gingrich’s missuses could reform Bananarama!

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 7:42 pm
……we must all agree that he would be a terrible President.

I’m not sure about that. I think he’d be okay. On the social side he would only move around the edges perhaps defunding abortion, especially overseas.

I reckon his main focus would be the economy.

Now I would not vote for Santorum, however I think he would make an okay president especially when matched against the Kenyan.

Take a look at what he says and what his policies are instead of believing the left wing hype about him.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 7:46 pm
Let’s keep 80s music though.

Let’s not

No, let’s…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 7:50 pm
JamesK, two ‘let’s not’ in less than an hour. Are you full of general negativity tonight? It’s all Tony Abbott’s fault, of course.

80′s music is OK. 90′s techno is horrible though. Right now, I don’t mind Eliza Doolittle at times.

60′s music is hot. It goes around, it comes around.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

1 Apr 12 at 7:51 pm
More 80s music (with bonus woody allen!)

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 7:55 pm
db

Am finding Locke a nightmare. At least in Human Understanding (don’t know about his political stuff), his writing style is unreadable. Fortunately, I found a book that translates him into 21st century English prose, which seems otherwise very faithful to the original. A lot of his empiricism stuff is silly, but that’s only given what subsequent knowledge has revealed. However, to give him his due, I can sense that what he is on about is a much grander mega systematic account of life, universe, and everything, of similar ambition to Aristotle. The trouble is, I also gather, that to get that full appreciation would require I read a lot more of Human Understanding than I can stomach. Which is a bit of a problem for choosing the topic of “persons”, as it’s now clear that what he is driving at has deep and unavoidable connections with points he is making in every other part of the book. Unlike his oak tree, you can’t lop off a few branches of the book, and still get the idea. Aaaaaarrrrrggghhhhh!!!

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:00 pm
One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right.

They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues.

That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.

That statement chills me to the bone. I feel more comfort with most of what Obama says than the uncertainty of what that statement suggests might come.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 8:00 pm
We all agree that Santorum is the worst possible choice for President…

I wouldn’t say that. Romney is a socialist, a liberal flip-flopper and a big game loser. Plus everyone in the GOP hates him. He’s also a weirdo cult member whose ‘church’ is the white version of Jeremiah Wright.

Frankly, he gives me the creeps. He even looks like a character from the Addams Family.

He has also endorsed the Occupy movement.

C.L.

1 Apr 12 at 8:01 pm
two ‘let’s not’ in less than an hour

But but Lizzie..but Tone is relentles

T-Rex Lizzie.

I will say no more.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 8:02 pm
The n word is now nincompoop.

kae

1 Apr 12 at 8:04 pm
Santorum’s economic policies are great.

Santorum’s jobs plan rests on a restructuring of tax rates, cuts to government spending, repealing the Dodd-Frank and Sarbanes-Oxley regulatory reform laws, and allowing increased domestic energy production.

Repealing Dadd Frank and Sarbanes are abolutely necessary.

Santorum would halve the corporate tax rate, and reform the individual tax code. He would permanently extend current rates on dividends and capital gains, and end the estate tax. He would tax repatriation of companies’ foreign earnings at a rate of 5 percent.

Good tax policy.

Santorum has said that the size of the federal government should match 18 percent of gross domestic product. He would seek changes by way of a Balanced Budget Amendment.

Good beginning to taking the government down.

Santorum suggested at a September debate that he would prefer to see Medicare administered privately. Proposed partial privatization of Social Security and raised retirement age during congressional career.

Health care reform Santorum has pledged to repeal President Obama’s health care law, and would seek to do so using the budget reconciliation process.

Foreign policy Santorum had urged President Obama to act more decisively in Libya, and was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq.

Silly.

Immigration Santorum opposes in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, and favors making English the official language of the U.S., along with building a fence along the border between the U.S. and Mexico.

Energy/Environment Santorum favors an energy policy using oil, natural gas, coal, and nuclear energy. He opposes new regulations on natural gas, and would allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).

Good, “drill baby drill”.

Abortion Opposes abortion rights even in the case of rape.

Problematic, but there’s really not much he can do.

Same-sex marriage Santorum is a vocal opponent of same-sex marriage, and would seek a Constitutional amendment banning such marriages.

Climate change Santorum called the notion of climate change “junk science.”

I disagree with him on some of the social policy issues, however lets recall that the Lying slapper was also against same sex marriage until she was for it.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 8:04 pm
Sweat my yoof away…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 8:05 pm
Hey, I just found some footage from Newt’s wedding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sfjr7Hbq54

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:06 pm
His climate science policy is very funny.

Climate change Santorum called the notion of climate change “junk science.”

JC

1 Apr 12 at 8:06 pm
Gawd Rabz, I used to practically live at Ministry of Sound. Ah, them were the days.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:09 pm
Am finding Locke a nightmare

Why? Is it the ‘God’ thing Peter?

Universally all men have an intrinsic – God-given – right to life, liberty including freedom of speech and religion and property/land rights.

And why is that something ur not willing to extend to Rick?

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 8:11 pm
Economic policy wise, Santorum’s is far superior than Romney’s by a long shot.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 8:11 pm
For Lizzie…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 8:12 pm
Pete,

Very annoyed, I couldn’t find the definitive version of that track – I had 12 inch vinyl copy back in the day and it was bluddee awesome…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 8:14 pm
Reagan may be from another time but the way he spoke united the conservative and libertarian elements of the Republicans. He united these elements so well that he refined (if not redefined) what it meant to be a Republican.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 8:14 pm
There’s magic in my eyes…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 8:18 pm
James

It is the god thing, actually. But, it has nothing to do with my own take on god or religion, but I am slowing getting the impression that once you accept that Locke is absolutely a true believer, he becomes easier to read, so long as you can read and chew gum at the same time, and remind yourself that at the end of each sentence, there’s Locke’s – Protestant – god – sweating like a whore in church peddling like the clappers out yonder to make the universe go round. By insisting on this ultimate force, he makes everything else so unnecessarily complex. Still, we are talking about the 17th century here. He can only mould the clay he’s got.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:20 pm
Universally all men have an intrinsic – God-given – right to life, liberty including freedom of speech and religion and property/land rights.

Misanthropic horseshit.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:23 pm
What’s misanthropic about it?

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 8:30 pm
Under dreaming spires…

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 8:34 pm
Always time for a bit of Kate…

Live 1978 – Top of the Pops?

Rabz

1 Apr 12 at 8:38 pm
PP, you need to get Feser’s book on Locke, post haste. The problem for Locke is that he repudiates the thing that makes natural law and rights, among other things, intelligible, namely, formal and final causality, all the while retaining the framework as well as belief in God. Feser also situates Locke and interprets him in a larger background, namely, one that sees the early moderns as actively rejecting Aristotelianism and Scholasticism. But because Feser is himself an Aristotelian-Thomist (A-T), he actually is quite good at explaining what in fact Locke and they were rejecting rather than mere caricatures as well as explaining the problems they encountered having then rejected A-T.

Universally all men have an intrinsic – God-given – right to life, liberty including freedom of speech and religion and property/land rights.

It isn’t a simple as this for Locke. According to Locke, God owns us, we are merely the custodians/ stewards of His property. So these rights, according to Locke, are not strictly speaking, our own, but we can think of them in some derivative sense as if they were our own.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 8:47 pm
sweating like a whore in church

He PREFERS to be likened to a mother in childbirth, thankyouverymuch.

wreckage

1 Apr 12 at 8:48 pm
db

I’ll track him down. It’s just that the assignment requires excruciating attention to Locke’s text.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:49 pm
Rabz

Oh, that was a sacrilegious version. THIS is god’s version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW3gKKiTvjs&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=AL94UKMTqg-9DEOH-QOTIHl5Ke1EDoyi_v

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:50 pm
Santorum would appeal to the freckle-skinned, non-indigenous population of the non-Anglo Protestant ascendancy in Australia.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 8:52 pm
Feser is also a bloody good writer, so if you disagree with him it’s not a bitter waste of time to have read his work.

wreckage

1 Apr 12 at 8:53 pm
db

If I had more time, I’d find Locke a lot more interesting, as I would read him as an historical source to be placed in a larger historical world. I think I’m already ruined by an historian’s education. I just cannot take a philosopher’s text, and read it on its own terms. Oh well.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:53 pm
db, I am already Locke as somebody imprisoned in Scholasticism, but he doesn’t realise it.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:55 pm
yay!

Just got delivery of a book I have been after for ages. Mate found a copy in Armidale.

Most people would not get excited about getting a copy of the Official Yearbook of the Commonwealth of Australia 1901-1920.

Lucky I am not most people eh?

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 8:57 pm
Except maybe Locke knew Greek. The problem with centuries and centuries of European life was they were slaves to incredibly dodgy Latin renderings of Greek texts. Including a version of Aristotle copied into Latin from Arabic translations of Syriac, and so on. Aaaarrrrgghhhhh!!!

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 8:57 pm
Yeah, Mk50, but have you got the ‘Skippy’ Annual 1973?

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
db

Actually a genuine A-T’s reading of Locke would be extremely helpful, as at least they could lay naked what Locke is clearly trying to place fig leafs around.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 9:00 pm
John Mc

Ummm. No.

I do have an original 1957 Staff study on the Defeat of the U-boat (2 vols) though. Does that count?

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 9:06 pm
I’ll track him down. It’s just that the assignment requires excruciating attention to Locke’s text.

PP, yes, I see your problem. Still, he does continually refer to the primary material.

db, I am already Locke as somebody imprisoned in Scholasticism, but he doesn’t realise it.

Nominalism, maybe, but not Thomism, and the former is really already very little like Aristotelianism.

Feser is also a bloody good writer, so if you disagree with him it’s not a bitter waste of time to have read his work.

wreckage, this is very true. I only just came across his work near the end of last year and it really is very good and he clearly knows his stuff.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 9:07 pm
Mk50, it’s a second tier interest rather than a primary passion. Y’know, watching documentaries and stuff. I’m more aligned with land forces and aviation.

However, on matters naval, especially submarines, I read your perspective with interest.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 9:11 pm
It would appear that when Obama was doing Professor stuff, he was teaching Critical Race Theory.
Some courses have surfaced.
Find them here.

Winston Smith

1 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
I don’t care what u say d-b, I’m immortal even if my propert rights aren’t.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 9:24 pm
Boy on a Bike’s fairfax – earth hour ownership expose hits the US:

The [WWF's] partner was “Australasia’s largest multi-platform media group.” Fairfax Media owns major newspapers in both Australia and New Zealand – including The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, The Australian Financial Review, The Canberra Times, The Dominion Post, The Press, and The Sunday Star-Times.

Fairfax Media publishes “metropolitan, agricultural, regional and community newspapers,” owns consumer magazines and “a portfolio of leading websites,” and also runs radio stations (source; backup link).

As the company website explains:

For the six month period year ended 25 December 2011, Fairfax Media reported underlying revenues and profit after tax of $1.23 billion and $135.7 million respectively.

The Boy on a bike blog has dug up copies of Fairfax’s financial statements which confirm that it owns one-third of Earth Hour. Evidently this company doesn’t merely report the news, it’s also in the business of “environmental promotion.”

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2012/03/31/earth-hour-rage-rage-for-the-dying-of-the-light/

twostix

1 Apr 12 at 9:26 pm
Ive got a “Minder” Annual if that helps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExAjQUXuVCI

Arthur Daley: You make contact with your customer. Understand their needs. And then flog them something they could well do without.

Now I know where Gillard got her idea for a carbon tax

Splatacrobat

1 Apr 12 at 9:26 pm
Oh good Lord, his Father was Kenyan.

How about ‘White-Black-Kenyan-American’ for the Kenyan?

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 9:36 pm
Breitbart has an explanation of CRT.

Winston Smith

1 Apr 12 at 9:36 pm
Watching the stupid fag David Marr on Insiders. From the consistency of his presence every week you’d think he hosted the show.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 9:37 pm
I don’t care what u say d-b, I’m immortal even if my propert rights aren’t.

That may be true, JamesK, but please don’t use Locke in order to argue your case; Aquinas would serve you better.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 9:45 pm
Well my “case” was to yank Peter’s chain about Santorum.

I can’t see how Tommy’s gonna help.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 9:50 pm
This is the most bitter episode of Insiders I’ve seen. I think they’re all secretly imagining ripping each others throats out. It’s like they’ve been forced to be there.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
Oh, you watching it too, John Mc. It is incredible. I can’t believe they’re now talking about Greer, Abbott and Gillard’s awful wardrobe.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
Watching the stupid fag David Marr on Insiders means votes for Abbott.

He’s nausea-inducing and the Left are blind to just how harmful he is to their cause.

Mainly ‘cos although they know it’s bullshit, they’d like to believe it were true.

He did Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison no end of good today.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
It’s due to Labor’s recent overwhelming defeat in QLD, which the faithful know is coming in the next Federal election.

It’s quite acceptable when that hag Greer says the PM has a fat arse (in fact, it’s really witty), but completely unacceptable if the male leader of the opposition makes a passing comment agreeing with a member of the public on what the fem-hag says.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 9:56 pm
Yeah, Marr’s a complete scumbag. The show’s pretty piss-poor as it is. He makes it unwatchable – there have been extraordinary allegations made about Marr’s erm… proclivities. Watching his overinflated ego in action, they are believable.

Bolt used to chop him into catmeat with the greatest of ease. Henderson routinely does too, so they match the rancid squealboy with Ackerman, who’s third rate. Marr’s the best the left has to offer.

He can compete with a third-rate conservative.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
Akerman is a mediocre performer with a mildly likeable agenda. He only gets recognition as an exposition of the art of smearing softly by lefties.

.

1 Apr 12 at 10:03 pm
They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues.

Sounds like Estonia. Flat tax rate, little government interference in business, lowest government debt to GDP among European countries; it is a wonder of free market capitalism.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 10:12 pm
it’s a woman’s obligation in life to keep a firm, taut and well-shaped bottom. for the benefit of all. clothes fit better and a nice bottom gives us a certain confidence in life, intangible but true fact.

candy

1 Apr 12 at 10:13 pm
Did anyone just see that clip of Bob Carr on ABC News 24? That man is our Foreign Minister. He represents us to other nations.

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 10:17 pm
it’s a woman’s obligation in life to keep a firm, taut and well-shaped bottom.

Well said Candy. Very we said indeed.

Infidel Tiger

1 Apr 12 at 10:17 pm
My better half just pointed out that Aldi is selling wheelchairs. Is there anything that store doesn’t sell!!?

John Mc

1 Apr 12 at 10:18 pm
Yep, could agree more, Candy. I’m with you and IT on this one.

JC

1 Apr 12 at 10:21 pm
James

I am starting to click that Locke thinks he’s immortal too, and that he is wasting my time contorting everything he has to stay to accommodate his immortality, and that beign of all human thought – the fucking “soul”, FFS. Give me discoing kinky nuns on top of angel pins, please.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 10:22 pm
candy

John Howard had to spend a fortune on his makeover, the least Gillard could do is have a little lipo, and get a new stylist, for the love of god.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 10:25 pm
“have a little lipo, and get a new stylist, for the love of god.”

i must disagree. Firm bottoms come from calisthenics and aerobic exercise, and appropriate eating habits, and the rest falls into place.

candy

1 Apr 12 at 10:30 pm
This is a serious question: Is Bob Brown going mad?

Seriously, this latest stuff he’s coming out with sounds hysterical and unhinged, even for him.

This Earthians & Aliens bizzo… “That’s why they are not communicating with Earth. They have extincted themselves.”

Weird personal anecdotes… “Recently, when I got back to bed at Liffey after ruminating under the stars for hours on this question, Paul enquired, ‘did you see a comet?’ ‘Yes’, I replied, ‘and it is called ‘Global Democracy’.”
….
….I really fear there’s something seriously organically wrong with him.

And why isn’t anyone in the MSM calling him on any of this? If any conservative were talking crazy-talk like this…

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 10:33 pm
The Bony Bishop is an osteoporotic hip fracture waiting to happen.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 10:33 pm
She’s too busy for all that malarky.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 10:34 pm
He never said anything about the CIA, Spot. Unless and until he does, the MSM will just treat him as sane.

How anyone could swallow the rubbish and lies Brown spits out is unfathomable.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 10:36 pm
the fucking “soul”

But the soul as conceived by Descartes and Locke is really quite different to the soul as it was conceived by Aristotle, Augustine, and Aquinas. In fact, I’m really warming to the latter.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 10:39 pm
Squealer: sod off swampy.

SDog

He’s always been like that: I guess it’s what advanced syphilis does?? And he was a complete anti-human bigot and barking whackjob to start with.

A few people are noticing now just how crack-pated the ancient brown-hatter really is. He’s been the protected precious petal princess in a pink toutou his entire political career. When Chris Uhlman asked him the first hard question any journalist ever did ask the rancid old screwball (last year IIRC), the vicious old windjammer tried to have him sacked.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 10:44 pm
“Descartes ”

i drink therefore i’m pissed?

candy

1 Apr 12 at 10:45 pm
Naughty Mirabella, and close to the Mad Monk, beieves in sharing between husband and wife even when not married:

AN UGLY spat over the will of a dead former lover could engulf Federal Liberal frontbencher Sophie Mirabella as the man’s family considers Supreme Court action to challenge her management of his estate.

Colin Howard, QC, a highly regarded former dean of law at Melbourne University, was Ms Mirabella’s de facto partner in the late 1990s, despite a 40-year age gap – a fact she has successfully kept secret until now.

During their relationship, Mr Howard made Ms Mirabella (then Sophie Panopoulos) the executor of his will, and his children, Mervyn and Lesley, believe she is also a beneficiary, perhaps the sole beneficiary, of an estate worth more than $1 million.

However, the children have concerns about how Ms Mirabella cared for their father’s health and finances. They believe he made two substantial gifts of money to Ms Mirabella, the first in 2000 and 2001 to help fund her Liberal preselection and election to the seat of Indi, and the second in late 2006 to help her buy a $695,000 farmhouse in Wangaratta.

They say the second gift came after they had seen evidence that Mr Howard’s mental health and judgment were deteriorating. He was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease in 2008.

Ms Mirabella has not yet applied for a grant of probate on the will, but Mervyn and Lesley Howard are willing to take action in the Supreme Court to force her to disclose information.

”We’ve been told by Sophie Mirabella that she’s the executor of the will, and we believe the sole beneficiary,” Mervyn Howard told The Age.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 10:47 pm
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Gab

1 Apr 12 at 10:49 pm
db

I will say I have warmed to Mister Locke’s treatment of identity, not as a substance, but as a relation. I hadn’t thought of it like that before. But as soon as I saw, a red light flashed – “Linear Algebra”. I don’t know if that’s where he is coming from, was Linear Algebra even invented at that time? Or maybe he was one of the dudes inventing it? If he is riffing off Linear Algebra – with its ‘reflections;, ‘projections’, translations’, blah – then I read him as merely trying to leapfrog the issues – particularly personhood – by doing through time, what Linear Algebra does through space.

At least what I’ve read so far, he might have kept at bay the notion that we change into the person we were supposes to be (sorry if that’s a clumsy rendering of final causes and such), but he seems to be saying ‘the end justifies the means’ so it doesn’t really matter what/how a human got from before to now and then after, all we need ask is ‘is there consciousness in tact’? After all, that identity is a relation is actually an idea seems a bit slippery. Yes, it’s a really neat “move”, but perhaps a little unfair to the ‘identity as substance’ position.

I’ve just read modern-day some dude using ‘thought experiments’ in order to deal with Mister Locke. He posits transporting human DNA and consciousness into the future to wonder if the same ‘person’ arrives at the other end. I am thus left with no option, but to turn to the bourbon bottle.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 10:54 pm
John & James – I agree that Marr is insufferable, but it doesn’t have anything to do with his sexual orientation. He’s just intrinsically, congenitally, insufferable. He’d like as not be just as insufferable if he were straight. I’m not trying to play PC Cop, it’s just that I don’t think shouting “fag! fag! fag!” at an insufferable Leftoid who happens to be gay is terribly edifying.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 10:55 pm
“Naughty Mirabella, and close to the Mad Monk”

You come across as disrespectful of people there Max.
You often have valid and sympathetic points of view that I like to read and sometimes agree with, but the above sounds un-Christian.

I am presuming you are not personal friends of Mr Abbott and Ms Mirabella, of course, and even if you were, it would not be appropriate to expand on that relationship over the Net.

candy

1 Apr 12 at 10:55 pm
Well, at least, Guillard acquired whatever she has through her own exertions and has even retained her figure.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 10:55 pm
I think you’re half-joking about the syphilis, Mk50, but some sort of organic medical condition affecting his mental processes is exactly what I am concerned about. I’m half-afraid to ridicule him at this point because he’s just gone so cray-cray, I half-expect to find out that he’s suffering a brain tumor or early-onset dementia or something similar and then I’d feel bad about having gone him. It’s the same reason I’m reluctant to pile on to Charles Johnson these days.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
I’m not trying to play PC Cop, it’s just that I don’t think shouting “fag! fag! fag!” at an insufferable Leftoid who happens to be gay is terribly edifying.

I’m with sdog here. His being insufferable has nothing to do with his ‘orientation’.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 11:02 pm
I come across as disrepectful. Every racial epithet and swear word possible is used around here except for the c-word which is banned.

The Mirabella piece comes from a newspaper and her role as the lover in a relationship with a forty year older man is interesting, to say the least, given its secrecy and how it may reflect on her political beliefs.

Conservatives love to talk about family, after all, not secret liasons.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 11:05 pm
Gillard doesn’t have a mirror nor does she have any friends, or someone would tell her about those awful jackets.

Osteoporosis is suffered by people who aren’t skinny, too. Like hypertension, size doesn’t matter.

candy, there are plenty of women with big bums for whom no amount of exercise will ensmallen same.

kae

1 Apr 12 at 11:05 pm
The gay community is always awash with rumour, SDog. It’s just one of many, and like most is probably wrong. Like the AIDS ones.

Personally I just think he’s barking mad, congenitally vicious, has the morals of a concentration camp guard and has the intellect of a nematode.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 11:07 pm
I will say I have warmed to Mister Locke’s treatment of identity, not as a substance, but as a relation.

PP, I would warm to neither, and neither would the three I earlier referred to because both these positions are symptoms of the rejection of A-T.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
Gillard doesn’t have a mirror nor does she have any friends, or someone would tell her about those awful jackets.

Indeed, her colouring is awful. She would do well to take some tips from Her Majesty and Hillary Clinton, who looks just lovely in a tangerine pant suit.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 11:11 pm
Conservatives love to talk about family, after all, not secret liasons.

Secret? Surely you simply meant to say private. Yes, it is ‘very strange’ that anyone let alone a conservative would avoid publicizing a private relationship.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Nice bit of dirt digging Max. You must be so proud. It seems to be in the ALP DNA. Despite the experience of spectular failure in Qld, they keep doing it.

To be encouraged, I say.

Lazlo

1 Apr 12 at 11:15 pm
db

The other confounding bit is that Mister Locke is clearly also pointing his daggers at Msr Descarte’s cogito. Yep, time for the bourbon.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 11:16 pm
Lazlo, the best response to anything the Squealer excretes onto this blog is ‘sod off swampy’.

he’s learned to cut and paste. That’s pretty much his whole schtick

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
Colin Howard, QC, a highly regarded former dean of law at Melbourne University, was Ms Mirabella’s de facto partner in the late 1990s, despite a 40-year age gap – a fact she has successfully kept secret until now.

“Personal life”, dickhead.

You have no respect for this, and have nearly lost your home over this before.

Now what happened to the carbon bricks?

.

1 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
No, secret, as in she kept it secret from her own family, friends and colleagues that she was in a relationship with a man forty years older.

So you are wrong, I didn’t mean private by secret I meant secret. Marriage is a public commitment, she wanted a secret one, not a private one.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
Patton I recommend a Brandy Sour. Gold.

It also held up other bar patrons for around five minutes last night for a bit of shit stirring hilarity.

What do they teach kids in bartending school these days? What a standard drink is?

Like I care.

.

1 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
I”m sorry but I’m not in possession of hidden knowledge, this has all been reported so is a matter now of public knowledge.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 11:22 pm
Sod off swampy.

Mk50 of Brisbane

1 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Marriage is a public commitment

Oh really fuck off you inquisitorial piece of shit. Please cite the Act and section which requires this.

.

1 Apr 12 at 11:26 pm
The signature of a witness might lead you in the right direction, pinhead.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
Right fuckface, so a will is a “public document”?

Fuck me you’re a hopeless old loser.

.

1 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
You are such a pinhead with these questions suffused with ignorance.

Max Scream

1 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
Bob

Who are libeling now?

JC

1 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
You are such a pinhead with these questions suffused with ignorance.

Shove it Bob. You obviously think a will is also up for public dissemination. You are Torquemada with a clip on bright red nose.

Now what happened to the carbon bricks?

.

1 Apr 12 at 11:36 pm
Yea Bob

Whatever happened to the carbon bricks?

JC

1 Apr 12 at 11:37 pm
If I had a pet monkey who suffered from both Tourette’s syndrome and chronic diarrhea, I would call him “Max.”

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 11:37 pm
Give me discoing kinky nuns on top of angel pins, please.

Why “discoing” Peter?

Contrary to Candy’s thoughts pert bums are eminently tangible but you have to catch them

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 11:39 pm
If I had a pet monkey who suffered from both Tourette’s syndrome and chronic diarrhea,

I’d put him out of his misery.

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 11:41 pm
James, that was sooooo 2 hours ago when we were talking about 80s music.

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 11:42 pm
Or, James, are you one of those freaks who like their kinky nuns headbanging, rather than discoing? Here you go – the Kinky Headbanging Nuns Anthem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsDpznl8eIs

Peter Patton

1 Apr 12 at 11:44 pm
Drive-by sniping on Twitter:

“Your retarded, you looser retard.”

What does that even mean?

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
@sdog.

The fag part is just a fact.

I made no value judgement on that.

I know quite a few erudite and wonderful fags.

First class human beings.

Marr is a condescending and ignorant prick who happens to be a fag.

That’s all.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
That too, Gabs. Though Our Max is like to take that as a Death Threat™.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 11:48 pm
I just like kinky nuns to have pert bums and to be deliciously kinky.

I’m really bog-standard in my favourite perversions

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 11:51 pm
Could someone please edumacate JamesK as to the first rule of holes? Ta.

sdog

1 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
Could someone please edumacate JamesK as to the first rule of holes?

Dig up, stupid!

Infidel Tiger

1 Apr 12 at 11:55 pm
Bundoora Bob (aka Robert Manne) issued a challenge to Professor Bunyip.

Bunyip issues one right back.

Hilarity will ensue.

http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/robert-manne-writes.html

Gab

1 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
Don’t u like kinky nuns sdog?

You Protestants don’t know how to party.

JamesK

1 Apr 12 at 11:57 pm
So you are wrong, I didn’t mean private by secret I meant secret. Marriage is a public commitment, she wanted a secret one, not a private one.

Yes, in so far as her keeping this relationship secret from her family, you are right. I’m not sure it was entirely true so much as her friends and colleagues are concerned and I’m not sure it matters either. The relationship began and ended in the late-90s. I don’t think she ever pretended she was married to Brown nor that she ever wanted it.

dover_beach

1 Apr 12 at 11:59 pm
james, dude, pert bums are so, like, I don’t know – some other time! The Thinking Man’s Kinky Nun’s Anthem – the Bottom Mix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0&ob=av2e

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
Pert does not imply petite

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
Perhaps Australia should change our national anthem, in honour of our first Lady PM?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMnjF1O4eH0&ob=av2e

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
J-Lo for instance could to a fetish habit the world of good.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 12:07 am
James

A fetish for habits, eh? This habit kinky enough, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-x5HkOMJs&feature=related

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
So Candy, can we infer you have a firm and brag worthy arse?

Abu Chowdah

2 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
So Candy, can we infer you have a firm and brag worthy arse?

Careful, Abu. Like as not, “she’s” a Gay Girl in Damascus.

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 1:23 am
Nielsen poll has the ALP primary vote at 27% and 2PP at 57-43 the Coalition’s way.

I’d say the government are in trouble.

tbh

2 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
Linkage:

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/coalition-heading-for-landslide-win-poll/story-e6frfku0-1226315959113

tbh

2 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
Let’s face it. Australians just don’t like the Labor Party (the feeling is mutual, obviously).

Fisky

2 Apr 12 at 1:28 am
As I have always suspected, Spot!

Abu Chowdah

2 Apr 12 at 1:34 am
Fisky

I am much more sympathetic to Labor than most folks here, but I am completely stumped by how they remain in government. The ONLY explanation is that a sensible Australian polity reckoned it is unseemly to allow one gang in power for more than a decade. But for how long the Australian polity will wait for the memory of the previous regime to clear is a question Labor really should be trying to answer. Sometimes, a mere change is a shithouse holiday.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 1:37 am
it’s a woman’s obligation in life to keep a firm, taut and well-shaped bottom. for the benefit of all. clothes fit better and a nice bottom gives us a certain confidence in life, intangible but true fact.

Good comment.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 2:22 am
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/CurrencyLad/christina-hendricks.gif

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 2:24 am
Romney neo-leftist Ann Coulter has now decided she doesn’t like Marco Rubio either.

Same link: a genuinely interesting, solid idea from Van Jones, of all people:

Van Jones, a former environmental advisor in the Obama White House, threw a brand new name into the realm of vice presidential speculation: former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who served under George W. Bush.

“She ticks off a lot of boxes as far as women, persons of color, but she’s actually tested, she’s a national figure and she has foreign policy experience” Jones said. “You want to do something bold, put Condoleezza Rice on the ticket and watch the Obama campaign go crazy.”

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 3:21 am
“She ticks off a lot of boxes as far as women, persons of color, but she’s actually tested, she’s a national figure and she has foreign policy experience” Jones said.

Er, yes she does. Wasn’t Rice one of the people who carried out the 9/11 attacks, according to Van Jones?

Fisky

2 Apr 12 at 3:58 am
Now, Condy Rice. That there is a fine looking woman with an ass you could bounce dimes off. Mmmm-mmm.

Abu Chowdah

2 Apr 12 at 4:45 am
No future for liars in politics, says former Labor leader Mark Latham

Mr Latham said this meant the only option for federal Labor was to “bring in a non-liar as prime minister”.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 8:02 am
“Inconvenient Truths”…

Democrats supported ‘Stand Your Ground’ gun laws too: http://j.mp/HzPWCJ

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 8:12 am
Mr Latham said this meant the only option for federal Labor was to “bring in a non-liar as prime minister”.

Perhaps this is a job only the Avian Oracle can handle.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 8:23 am
I am seeking some help please.

Can anyone please refer me to where I can find an estimate of what the compliance cost of the CO2 tax and ETS will be when fully implemented to the standard that will eventually be required?. (I have not been able to find any such estimate, including on the Treasury, DRET or DCCEE web sites).

Expansion of my question and some thoughts follow:

What would be the compliance cost for the ETS once it is fully implemented and running at the level of accuracy required for trading the commodity (CO2-e) and at the level of financial security from fraud that will be expected? For example, what will be the annual cost for:

– Public servants in DCCEE, Treasury, ATO, Australian Federal Police, state police forces, state bureaucracies, Attorneys’ General Departments, Federal Department of Resources, Energy and Tourism, ABARE, BREE, the equivalent state departments of energy, resources, agriculture, forestry, environment, Prime Minister and Cabinet, State departments of Premier and Cabinet, the law courts, High Court, goals, any others I haven’t thought of?

– The businesses that have to report their emissions – what is the cost to implement and maintain the monitoring equipment and to report.? What is the cost to update and replace equipment, reporting systems and legacy data each time the rules change (as they do every few years)?

– Farmers and all the upstream and downstream industries (farming will be included eventually if the tax and ETS remain)

– Accountants, lawyers, accounting firms, law firms, courts?

– Firms that use the data, analyse it and report? What is the cost for them to have to maintain and continually update their systems and legacy data?

– I haven’t even started to ask questions about the compliance cost for purchasing overseas carbon credits

I understand the some of the costs involved in doing what the USA EPA requires (clearly we would have to move to that level of accountability and well beyond it eventually), are in the order of $21 billion per year. These two links provide some insight into the current requirements in the USA http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/business/ecmps/docs/ECMPSEMRI2009Q2.pdf
http://www.epa.gov/airmarkt/emissions/docs/plain_english_guide_par75_final_rule.pdf
We can only imagine what the costs would be for the businesses involved and all the organisations who take this data and analyses it. Notice that the rules have been changing (for emissions other than CO2) every few years for about the last three decades (roughly); think of the compliance cost that imposes.

The EPA recently stated in a court submission that the cost to the EPA alone to manage the existing regulations would be $21 billion per year. That is not a typo. They estimated they would have to increase their permanent staff numbers from 17,000 to 233,000 permanent employees. (It is clear from this why the unions want a carbon tax and ETS – it means lots more public servants and hence lots more union dues). The cost to business could be expected to be at least ten times this cost, and the other departments who have a role to play would at least double the EPA cost.

What does this mean for Australia? Well, initially Australia does not intend to monitor or measure its emissions. It will simply estimate them. The system set up by AEMO to estimate electricity system emissions is very crude. It is nowhere near the standard the USA or even the Europeans are doing. I am sure we will have to get up to best practice eventually. That means big increases in compliance cost as time goes on. And this is for electricity emissions only. What happens when the compliance requirements are extended to all businesses emitting CO2 emissions, as will be required eventually.

Can anyone help me please?

Peter Lang

2 Apr 12 at 8:28 am
CL: interesting idea. It’s probably a non-starter, because I don’t think Obama would be willing to be her VP.

Or did Van Jones think she would settle for anything less than the top job?

Oh come on

2 Apr 12 at 8:29 am
If this is not the best place to post a long comment and question, like the one above, could someone please suggest a better place to post it?

Peter Lang

2 Apr 12 at 8:29 am
James/db

I get the impression that Mister Locke is much more accessible if daily talk about ‘the soul’ was a feature of your life as a schoolboy, such as attending a Catholic school. But for this heathen, it just makes Mr. Locke’s arguments seem circular.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 8:42 am
OMG. This is what happens when you mainline that ‘soul’ stuff for too long.

[Bob] Brown listed four goals for the Earth parliament: Economy, Equality, Ecology and Eternity.

Though this is something truly kooky for a Xian to say:

“The pursuit of eternity is no longer the prerogative of the gods,” said the Greens leader, “it is the business of us all, here and now.” It is not a bad ploy for a politician: promise eternity and who can prove you failed to deliver it?

Gods, plural?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/earth-to-gillard-watch-bob-brown/story-fn8qlm5e-1226315848343

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 8:46 am
I get the impression that Mister Locke is much more accessible if daily talk about ‘the soul’ was a feature of your life as a schoolboy, such as attending a Catholic school. But for this heathen, it just makes Mr. Locke’s arguments seem circular.

Please don’t seem eager to advertise ur soullessness Peter.

You ain’t that bad.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 8:49 am
“Inconvenient Truths”…

Democrats supported ‘Stand Your Ground’ gun laws too:

…and it was a registered Democrat that used this law as cover.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 8:57 am
…yet it was all still Rush Limbaugh’s fault. Somehow.

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 9:08 am
Nielsen poll has the ALP primary vote at 27% and 2PP at 57-43 the Coalition’s way.

I’d say the government are in trouble.

What a wonderful way to start the day.

Peter Lang, I hope you stick around. You have some good information yourself.

.

2 Apr 12 at 9:14 am
Remember this guy who was deported because of his religion…

…and the fact he was part of a plot to plant a bomb at the sleepy hamlet of Lucas Heights?

Well, maybe it would’ve been a better idea to lock him up for life…

AUSTRALIA’S most notorious terrorist Willie Brigitte has been arrested by French police in a dawn raid on alleged Islamic extremists.

The former Sydney man was one of 17 suspects who intelligence officials allege had a stash of arms, took part in terror training and may have been planning a kidnapping.

Brigitte was detained by French police on Friday in Asnieres, north of Paris. Police also swooped on houses in Nantes, Marseille, Nice and Toulouse as part of raids following last month’s murders by an al-Qaeda-linked extremist.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:16 am
Will C.L. say I’m unhinged that we didn’t hang him (and should have)?

Clearly it would have been an act of protecting life, liberty and property.

.

2 Apr 12 at 9:19 am
I was too busy with family yesterday to notice this sage advice from Labor luvvie PvO:

THE Prime Minister shouldn’t do so much media. She is devaluing her brand and being distracted from her core responsibility – running the country.

…but as with most the boy blunder writes, it does not stand up to scrutiny. Gillard is dodging the media, which is the point PvO makes in his own article:

Tony Abbott has already appeared on Australian Agenda, Meet The Press and The Bolt Report in 2012, but this will be Gillard’s first Sunday morning interview of the year.

Can anyone guess why PvO is no longer featured in the Oz and has been relegated to Sunday pieces for the Tele?

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:21 am
666 comments! Fixed.

blogstrop

2 Apr 12 at 9:21 am
Why thank you, Father James. Do you do confession as well, as baptisms? While I might have a soul myself, I did not grow up ruminating on its antics, nor did any of my teachers, or other grown ups think it was worthy of daily attention, or even annual attention, or any attention at all. So, when as a grown up myself, I encounter dudes from the olden days who had the soul 24/7, it’s a bit of struggle to play ‘catch-up’. But I’m sure I’ll get the hang of it soon enough. So far, I just see it as a place-marker philosophers use, rather than answering with the more crude – but more honest – ‘fuck nose’.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:22 am
Will C.L. say I’m unhinged that we didn’t hang him (and should have)?

Clearly it would have been an act of protecting life, liberty and property.

I’m sure he will dot. He has clear views and I admire the fact he stands by those principals.

I am like you though, I believe there is a place for capital punishment.

The upside of sending Willie Brigette back to France was he did not get to educate and convert Australian inmates into the religion of hate he devoutly follows.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:25 am
This is the soul that I was tutored in from birth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v79uwZ9uUm8

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:25 am
Peter, ur parents didn’t believe in pre-natal soul?

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 9:30 am
But for this heathen, it just makes Mr. Locke’s arguments seem circular.

There is nothing circular about the soul, but there is something peculiar about the soul from Descartes onwards.

So far, I just see it as a place-marker philosophers use,

You mean, like, the mind? But why is this used as a place-marker and why is the range of phenomenon included under this place-marker swelling in size? Because ‘the Mechanical Philosophy’ simply cannot make them intelligible.

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 9:35 am
James

I was a rather precocious git, who had a tanty at his 5th birthday party, and screamed at my parents “stop telling me that. I’ve told you before there’s no such thing as god.” I can’t recall what prompted such a boorish outburst, but the subject was rarely broached ever again. I suppose I was a bit of a hypocrite there, as I kept it on the down low when I worked out the awful truth about Santa Claus. For my silence, Santa continued to visit for several years afterwards.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:35 am
db

I gotta ‘yes’ to the mind.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:37 am
From Tim Blair’s piece today:

As one of Labor’s few alert operatives told The Daily Telegraph’s Laurie Oakes last week about his party’s leadership: “The Labor base is rejecting us, but they seem genuinely to think there is not a problem. If you don’t accept there is a problem, how do you fix it?”

So the Labor members actually know that they will be put to the sword by the electorate, but they continue to follow their leaders.

They really must feel like the French Army did in 1917 and have equal trust in the leadership.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:37 am
‘Consciousness’ is fine, as, of course, is the brain. But arguments that rely on the ‘mind’ and ‘soul’ make me suspicious. Doesn’t mean I simply dismiss those arguments, just pay attention more closely if there’s evidence elsewhere the dude has stuff to say regardless; if there’s no otherwise halo effect, Next!

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:40 am
Because ‘the Mechanical Philosophy’ simply cannot make them intelligible.

You’ve probably got something there. We’er on to Berkeley and Hume next, maybe I’ll become less despondent. OTOH, one the most awesome things I’ve ever read/seen relied on not only the soul, but also all sorts of other ‘god’ stuff – Kepler’s Astronomia Nova. Now, he was one really, really smart dude.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:46 am
PP, what is ‘consciousness’ if not the mind? Moreover, how can we even account for rationality or intentionality mechanistically?

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 9:53 am
Berkerley and Hume will be interesting. You’ll, I think, find that Hume has been hyped somewhat; I never realised that his criticism of causation was so weakly argued. Anscombe described him as a “mere-brilliant-sophist” which accounts for some of his success.

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 10:01 am
PP, what is ‘consciousness’ if not the mind?

Eastern philosophy would disagree.

‘Consciousness’ needs a precise definition.

Prior to any thought there is knowing without identity or self-awareness.

One koan goes: what did your face look like before your parents were born?

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 10:14 am
Well, I’ve only just started this, but for the minute I can get through the readings understanding ‘consciousness’ the way they use it on, say, Law & Order – being awake! Also, being able to point to yourself and say “that’s me” and “I’m me”. I’m sure as I go on, I’ll find there’s a lot more to it – or at least other folks think there’s a lot more to it.

As for ‘mind’, I haven’t had to get down and dirty with that one yet. So what should I expect? Do they really say that ‘mind’ just equals ‘consciousness’? If so, why the two terms? Even though I’ve got some basic neuroscience under my belt, I’ve never found it necessary to focus on the ‘mind’. The ‘brain’, ‘neuroanatomy’ and ‘physiology’ have been perfectly fine. So it’s good to have John H’s scepticism on tap for that.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:16 am
French politics is striking and dark and has elements that make it feel like a sleazy tele-drama.

For those of you who have not kept up…

Sarkozy was going to be beaten by the Socialist Party’s 1st choice candidate…but DSK had to drop out after being caught up with a series of rape & prostitution scandals

Then, Sarkozy was going to be beaten by the Socialist Party’s 2nd choice candidate…until he tried to beat up the politics of division by embracing radical islamic migrants…a week before one of that community executed a rabbi and children at a school.

Following the remark by Interior Minister Claude Gueant that “not all civilisations in the world are of equal value” a reference to Islam’s teaching on human rights and the treatment of women, Sarkozy was seen as “anti-Arab”. Meanwhile, Hollande was backing a call to remove the “r” word from article two of the constitution, which ensures equality before the law, regardless of “origin or race”. In the view of his triumphant supporters, the mere presence of the word “race” in an official document had become an incitement to racism. In short, everything seemed set for the joys to come: five years of ultra-correct progressive government.

On a tour of the outer-city housing estates of Strasbourg, Hollande noted that unemployment in the banlieues was twice the national average and up to 40 per cent among the young. He also taunted Sarkozy for his failure to deliver the “Marshall Plan” for deprived urban areas that he had promised in 2007. Hollande even found time on March 18 to visit the Paris Book Fair and sign copies of his latest work, Changing Destiny.

Then at 8.30 the following morning, three Jewish children were murdered in a primary school in Toulouse.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 10:21 am
Whatever Token.

What’s important to remember is that there are far far too many Parisians in the world.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 10:26 am
Gillard wants to cut the Medicare Safety Net and attacks Abbott for not cutting it.

Cue outrage from Labo…oh…

Extraordinary hypocrisy.

twostix

2 Apr 12 at 10:27 am
James

Eastern philosophy would disagree.

I know enough people I respect who agree, and say there are amazing things that happen to them brain-wise when they get into meditation and related brain stuff.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:28 am
Also, being able to point to yourself and say “that’s me” and “I’m me”

And what does that recognition entail if not a mind.

I’ve never found it necessary to focus on the ‘mind’. The ‘brain’, ‘neuroanatomy’ and ‘physiology’ have been perfectly fine.

Can the ‘brain’, ‘neuroanatomy’ and ‘physiology’ give an account of why 2+2=4?

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 10:30 am
I thought the French election was supposed to be this last weekend.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:31 am
Or ‘qualia’ for that matter?

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 10:32 am
Stephen Fry says the English must ‘give back’ the Elgin marbles to the Greek. And The Guardian thinks this is news fit to print. What’s that old saying again about luvvies and revolvers? Puke.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/apr/01/stephen-fry-elgin-marbles-greece

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:36 am
No time to release the safety switch, I’m afraid, just stop him, NOW!

“The Hellenic republic today is in heart-rending turmoil, a humiliating sovereign debt crisis has brought Greece to the brink of absolute ruin. This proud, beautiful nation for which Byron laid down his life is in a condition much like the one for which he mourned when they [the Greeks] were under the Ottoman yoke in the early 19th century,” the actor wrote.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:38 am
Not just eastern meditation Peter.

Western contemplative prayer.

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:21

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 10:42 am
James

Oh I totally get all the prayer, singing, art, cult, and spectacle stuff. The world should be relieved that paganism survived in the Roman Catholic church.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:47 am
A similar thing with the Muhammadans spending half their lives with their asses pointing to Allah, while they munch on carpet. However, I don’t think that particular tic is a positive.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:49 am
You’ve really gotta let go this philistine thing Peter.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 10:51 am
More on the ‘white-hispanic’ thing.

Trayvon Martin killing raises loaded racial terms

Over the years, Americans have become familiar with terms such as “white” and “Hispanic” and even — on government forms — the more specific “non-Hispanic white.” Now, courtesy of the mainstream media, there is a new phrase to add to our national lexicon: “white Hispanic.”

I don’t like the sound of that. I’ve written about the thorny subjects of race and ethnicity for nearly a quarter century, and I rarely hear this term. We might have been able to see this coming given that there is no Hispanic race and Hispanics come in all colors.

Still, mark my words. Wherever this road leads, it’s not good — not for Hispanics nor the rest of the country.

The term — white Hispanic — emerged from the controversy over the fatal February 26 shooting of African-American teenager Trayvon Martin by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Sanford, Florida. Because Martin was black, and because it was initially assumed that Zimmerman was white, critics immediately charged that the shooting was racially motivated.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 10:56 am
Where can I ask this question so some one will see it who is able to give me a response:

“Can anyone please refer me to where I can find an estimate of what the compliance cost of the CO2 tax and ETS will be when fully implemented to the standard that will eventually be required?. (I have not been able to find any such estimate, including on the Treasury, DRET or DCCEE web sites).

Peter Lang

2 Apr 12 at 11:06 am
A must-read very short article by P.J. Salvatore on Breitbart:

OBAMA’S ALINSKY STRATEGY: WHO’S NEXT?

“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” The death of Trayvon Martin is is a tragedy–as was the death of a 6-year-old girl named Aliyah Shell (photo above), caught in the crossfire of gang violence over St. Patrick’s Day weekend in Chicago.
But Aliyah’s story received very little coverage, despite the event being more recent than the Martin tragedy, and despite the fact that it happened in President Barack Obama’s very own Chicago on a weekend when 49 people were shot and 10 others were killed.
No mention of Aliyah from the president. No public outpouring for a young mother who sat untangling her daughter’s hair as shots rang out. Nothing. And yet…
“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”
Why? Why would the president weigh in on this specific case at this specific time?
It’s not about wrong or right. It’s not about justice. It’s not about Trayvon Martin.
“The despair is there; now it’s up to us to go in and rub raw the sores of discontent, galvanize them for radical social change.”- Saul Alinsky
An interesting quote to consider, from the man who shaped the minds of those who shaped President Obama.
Now consider Obama’s former chief of staff Rahm Emanuel’s notorious statement: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”
The meaning is the same

RTWT (quite short)

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 11:09 am
It’s about time the whole multi culti idea was put down.
Obviously it’s failed.
There isn’t a western nation on the planet where radically different cultures are living in harmony.
Segregate, and survive.

I’m rascist?
Sue me.

Winston SMITH

2 Apr 12 at 11:16 am
James

That warning about the dangers of “white Hispanics” is almost identical to what I posted above. But this problem is already so very deeply ingrained in the schools and university. Luvvie academics NEED this shit to justify their being employed at all.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 11:26 am
We see it Peter Lang, but the eggheads are still getting over their piss up from last night.
Some answers are available here.
Others await the ingestion of Berocca, greasy burgers, and Panadiene.

Winston SMITH

2 Apr 12 at 11:27 am
Peter Lang, I think this is too detailed a request for Open Thread. Try Jo Nova’s blog, you might have better luck there as the focus is essentially on only climate issues. It may be no-one can give you an answer, as the question may not unpack well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

2 Apr 12 at 11:29 am
Judith Sloan may well have the best answer for you Peter Lang.

But she rarely visits the OT.

Wait til she posts and ask her on that post thread.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 11:36 am
Blackness trumped:

‘’I’m good mates with Barack Obama,’’ Ms Gillard was quoted as saying.

‘’I tell him, ‘you think it’s tough being African-American? Try being me. Try being an atheist, childless, single woman as prime minister’.’’

——————————————

In other fantastic poll news…

The carbon tax – which starts on July 1 – is more unpopular than ever, with 60 per cent opposed, one point higher than in October, and only 36 per cent in favour.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 11:37 am
Or Alan Moran

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 11:38 am
Peter Lang – I was thinking along the same lines as Lizzie and jamesK. Perhaps you could shoot an email to Sinclair Davidson (at RMIT) and he could assist or ask him to forward your email to Judith Sloan.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:40 am
Pretty much a case of hoping the crocodile eats you last:

Anti-Israel Rabbis Beaten by Arabs During Anti-Israel March in Jordan

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 11:41 am
Keith Olbermann – liberal icon and man of the people:

Alleged details surrounding Keith Olbermann’s Friday dismissal from Current TV are beginning to depict the man as quite a prima donna.

According to Mediaite, a source at Current TV said the former Countdown host went through eight different car services while working at the network, complaining that the drivers “smelled” and “talked to him.”

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 11:42 am
The carbon tax – which starts on July 1 – is more unpopular than ever,

Not true. The South Africans love it.

AUSTRALIA’s decision last week to introduce a new 30% tax on iron ore and coal profits presents a rare opportunity for SA to attract mining investment.

http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=168686

via Bolt.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:43 am
Climate Change Minister Greg Combet this morning jumped to Labor’s defence, telling ABC Radio from Berlin that the government “can’t run everything via opinion polls” and while most Australians were unhappy about the introduction of the carbon tax “we’ve just got to fight it out”.

You keep right on “fighting it out”, Greg, right on up to election day 2013.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 12:03 pm
‘’I’m good mates with Barack Obama,’’ Ms Gillard was quoted as saying.

‘’I tell him, ‘you think it’s tough being African-American? Try being me. Try being an atheist, childless, single woman as prime minister’.’’

She forgot communist (H/T Kevin Rudd).

Also “single woman”??? What happened to Tim?

twostix

2 Apr 12 at 12:14 pm
You can bet the Pinki Finki, Wrongathan Holmes and the Media Watch inquisitors have conveniently been looking into other matters and somehow missed this again (hasn’t North Korea Hour been running since 2007?)

Token

2 Apr 12 at 12:24 pm
Oh I totally get all the prayer, singing, art, cult, and spectacle stuff. The world should be relieved that paganism survived in the Roman Catholic church.

Eastern meditation represent one of the best means of improving internal behaviors, far superior to anything offered by other religions because meditation was at the centre of their tradition whereas with religions generally it is peripheral.

I encourage people to meditate simply, without any religious referents, precisely because I consider those referents to be a hindrance. What did Bodhidharma do when he came from the East? He burnt all the scriptures. Oh if only others would learn the wisdom of that.

There are a lot of benefits to meditation, from improved immune responses to reduced stress responses, a study two weeks ago even claimed greater grey matter density, and meditation certainly helps cut down the internal chatter. For a number of months I practiced zazen and insight meditation. Wonderful benefit. Remember though, as one Buddhist master said: meditation is like using a canoe to cross the river but once you’ve crossed the river you no longer need the canoe. Or as Suzuki stated: Meditation is something artificially put on, it does not belong to the natural activity of the mind.

John H.

2 Apr 12 at 1:11 pm
Eastern meditation represent one of the best means of improving internal behaviors, far superior to anything offered by other religions because meditation was at the centre of their tradition whereas with religions generally it is peripheral.

The other way of saying this – as John Paul II did about Buddhism Crossing The Threshold of Hope – is that eastern religions are essentially about navel-gazing and spiritualised egotism, whereas Christianity is about serving others. There are no Buddhist missionaries in the slums of the world. So yeah, individually, they can peace out but their societies are chaotic toilets.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 1:21 pm
Socialist Dick Smith: food prices “too low.”

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
’I tell him, ‘you think it’s tough being African-American? Try being me. Try being an atheist, childless, single woman as prime minister’.’’

Huh? Why is it tough being African American?

The Lying Slapper seems confused. It’s not tough being any of those things as PM. What’s tough is being an inveterate liar and thinking you can get away with it. The same also applies to the Kenyan.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
Socialist Dick Smith: food prices “too low.”

No one buy his crap food products so he wants to be protected. Lord he’s a first rate dick…. by name and nature.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 1:26 pm
Anyone see/hear the latest moves on emails, FB, twitter etc being under surveillance by the government to ‘catch terrorists’? I heard the tail end of the story but cannot find any reference to it in online.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 1:28 pm
Stop being stupid CL. I said Eastern meditation, not religion. Save you’re religious hatred for the relevant subject matter. Eastern meditation techniques are now finding very wide application across a range of cognitive and health issues. I have no concern for your inter-religious competition, that obsession that dominates the religious. To me all religion is fucking nonsense. Period.

John H.

2 Apr 12 at 1:29 pm
Climate Change Minister Greg Combet this morning jumped to Labor’s defence, telling ABC Radio from Berlin that the government “can’t run everything via opinion polls” and while most Australians were unhappy about the introduction of the carbon tax “we’ve just got to fight it out”.

Hear hear.

Go Greg.

Keep fighting, champ. That’s the spirit.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 1:30 pm
Socialist Dick Smith: food prices “too low.”

Electricity is too cheap, food’s too cheap, imported consumer goods are too cheap.

These people really, really hate the little people and modern age don’t they?

twostix

2 Apr 12 at 1:31 pm
Combet has been picked up before for using the fight analogy over another issue.

He’s seems to have serious anger issues.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 1:32 pm
I wasn’t being “stupid,” John. I was just pointing out that eastern navel-gazing is individually efficacious (possibly) but has proved socially useless and, indeed, damaging. Tibet, for example, was a disgusting slave state before the Chinese took over. Christianity is other oriented and enlightenment is conceived of as something deriving from the service of our fellow man. Ultimate enlightenment cannot sustainably accrue via a preoccupation with the self.

And yes, Christianity does have an ancient tradition of meditation and mysticism. It is not “peripheral.” The monasteries, anchorites and hermits of ancient Christian Europe and Africa influenced all of Christianity.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 1:37 pm
UPDATE

Gillard thinks she understands the problem. It’s those silly, backward voters:

‘’I’m good mates with Barack Obama,’’ Ms Gillard was quoted as saying.

‘’I tell him, ‘you think it’s tough being African-American? Try being me. Try being an atheist, childless, single woman as prime minister’.’’

Actually, Julia, I’d vote for a 150kg, shaved-headed Morrocan lesbian with a wooden leg if she kept her promises, dismantled the disastrous carbon tax, cut government waste, put people into work, fought green extremists, defended reason, defied our new tribalism and wound back limits to our freedom to speak.

It’s what you do that counts, not what you are

JC

2 Apr 12 at 1:37 pm
Now isn’t that a coincidence: hideous poverty and slums in the same place and same time as armies of Roman Catholics ‘serving others’. You do the math.

If the slum dwellers want to improve their standard of living, they might do well to tell the Roman Catholics to get on their bikes.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 1:39 pm
Amazing twin girls… One is white and one is black.

How?

Both of their grandmothers were white and this can happen – though the odds are long.

The million-to-one black and white twins Kian and Remee.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 1:40 pm
Amazing the amount of hate directed at the Catholic Church. Pity Islam doesn’t receive the same.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 1:41 pm
Now isn’t that a coincidence: hideous poverty and slums in the same place and same time as armies of Roman Catholics ‘serving others’. You do the math.

You mean that well-known hellhole called “Europe” – which was created by the Catholic Church?

If the slum dwellers want to improve their standard of living, they might do well to tell the Roman Catholics to get on their bikes.

Yes, why not encourage them to imitate those well-known bastions of protestant wealth and sophistication – the American bible belt and Northern Ireland? Then there is India – wasn’t it cleaned up a treat by the Church of England’s Raj? Um, no.

And I think the old – now jettisoned – thesis about the payoff from the “protestant work ethic” is looking a little dubious nowadays. Protestant and atheist Europe is the most bankrupted geopolitical entity in history.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 1:49 pm
Saw on one these on the road this weekend. It’s the most beautiful car ever made.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/143874/2012-mercedes-benz-sls-amg-roadster-australian-price-487500/

JC

2 Apr 12 at 1:53 pm
Well actually CL, let us consider two of the most striking divergences in the world history of the past 500 years.

1. The divergence of northern vs. southern Europe

2. The divergence between the Spanish world and the Anglosphere.

You do the math.

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 1:55 pm
The problem [with government workers] really is the unions,” says Adrian Moore, who is Reason Foundation’s vice president for policy. “These are organizations whose mission is to oppose the taxpayers and get a better deal for their members. That’s their mission.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqvHeBDCmY&feature=player_embedded

JC

2 Apr 12 at 1:56 pm
Now isn’t that a coincidence: hideous poverty and slums in the same place and same time as armies of Roman Catholics ‘serving others’. You do the math.

Yeah, must be the fault of the Catholics. Especially Tony Abbott.

Ivan Denisovich

2 Apr 12 at 1:56 pm
““Europe” – which was created by the Catholic Church”

What?

Jarrah

2 Apr 12 at 2:00 pm
Good call Mumble:

I don’t believe politicians telling lies in election campaigns is particularly damaging because voters are long used to it…

I don’t believe all this nagging that the Gillard government needs to “learn lessons” from the Queensland result.

More power to you, Mumster.

Julia – listen to this man. Please.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 2:02 pm
There are no Buddhist missionaries in the slums of the world.

Historically that was true. A new form of buddhism has developed in Taiwan as a result of the .

The past forty years, and particularly the last decade, have seen a remarkable growth in Buddhism in Taiwan…

The growth of Buddhism can be attributed, at least in part, to the development of socially engaged Buddhism. In the 1960s and 1970s, Buddhist groups began appearing on university campuses, championing causes which were relevant to young intellectuals such as personal morality, helping the unfortunate, and environmental protection. This message was not unique to Buddhist groups. The Taiwan Presbyterian and Catholic churches have long had strongly socially activist programmes, but both are Christian and foreign, while Buddhism, though originally from India, has a long history in Chinese society, and Mahayana Buddhism has been enriched greatly in China. In short, Buddhist ideology appealed to young university students on its own merit as well as giving them a way to assert their ethnic identity; it was also an antidote to the spiritual and ideological vacuum in Taiwan at the time.

The Taiwanese buddhists volunteers join with the Catholic volunteers and use the well established Catholic charity networks.

Volunteers working in Haiti celebrated Buddha’s birthday at a Catholic church, a symbol of the friendship between the two religions.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 2:02 pm
Also “single woman”??? What happened to Tim?

Oooops, she’s dropped her handbag. Or maybe she’s just left it behind somewhere. Probably been picked up by her Aide de Camp.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

2 Apr 12 at 2:04 pm
Now isn’t that a coincidence: hideous poverty and slums in the same place and same time as armies of Roman Catholics ‘serving others’. You do the math.

That is rather crass Peter.

Do you see no good coming from catholic volunteers like Mother Teresa spending a lifetime helping the poor and giving dignity to the dying in slums like Calcuta?

Token

2 Apr 12 at 2:05 pm
CL, that rant by Mumbles was funny.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 2:08 pm
What?

You’re unfamiliar with the paramount role of the Catholic Church in forming the culture, customs, universities, erudition, law, jurisprudence, economies, nations and philosophies of Europe, Jarrah?

Or that Europe may have been saved in toto by Pope Pius V’s Holy League in 1571? That’s right: no pope, no Manchester industrialists, no United States, no Vincent van Gogh etcetera ad infinitum. Or that another pope played the predominant role in destroying the USSR (according to no less an authority than Mikhail Gorbachev)?

Yes: the Catholic Church created Europe the bastion of civilisation and it saved the whole shooting match on muliple occasions.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 2:14 pm
““Europe” – which was created by the Catholic Church”

What?

Like it or not it is true. They ruled as overlord from 476 AD to 1524 AD.

.

2 Apr 12 at 2:23 pm
“You’re unfamiliar with the paramount role”

That’s a step down from your previous “created”, but I think it’s still overstating their role.

“Europe may have been saved”

And there’s another retreat from silliness, good for you.

“another pope played the predominant role in destroying the USSR”

So it wasn’t Reagan after all? I guess you’ve solved your Matthews 6:24 problem

“Yes: the Catholic Church created Europe and it saved the whole shooting match on muliple occasions.”

No, it didn’t. It was and is a huge part of European development, but this idea of yours that it was somehow separate from and independent of and owes nothing to all the other factors that went into the creation of Europe… well, it’s just plain silly.

If a Catholic does something, that doesn’t mean it was the Catholic Church’s doing.

Jarrah

2 Apr 12 at 2:24 pm
A Quantum Theory of Mitt Romney. It brings the lolz.

m0nty

2 Apr 12 at 2:28 pm
If a Catholic does something, that doesn’t mean it was the Catholic Church’s doing.

Those words will haunt you next time someone brings up pedo’s in the church as an attempt to bash the church.

twostix

2 Apr 12 at 2:33 pm
Hilarious:

Church leaders back calls for same-sex marriage bills.

TWENTY ["]faith leaders["] have signed a letter urging people to declare their support for same sex marriage to two federal parliamentary inquiries on the issue.

The move follows six Victorian Catholic bishops writing to their parishioners to tell them allowing gay couples to marry would be a ”grave mistake” and would undermine the institution of marriage.

Signatories of the pro-gay marriage letter, organised by the gay marriage campaigners Australian Marriage Equality, include the Sydney Uniting Church minister Bill Crews, the Baptist minister Mike Hercock, the Metropolitan Community Church pastor Karl Hand and the Outreach Ministries church fellowship senior pastor Shane Anderson.

What an embarrassing bunch of “faith leaders.”

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 2:40 pm
“Those words will haunt you next time someone brings up pedo’s in the church as an attempt to bash the church.”

Why will they haunt me? I’ve never said sexual abuse by religious leaders is the fault of their religion, nor would I. Unless the dictates of the religion/culture lead directly to abuse, like FGM or forced marriages to rapists.

Jarrah

2 Apr 12 at 2:41 pm
Pope Pius V’s Holy League

I suspect recent pro-environmental statements, especially encouraging action to reduce greenhouse gases, don’t win over CL because they aren’t grand enough sounding. Maybe it needs to be Pope Benedict’s “League of Environmental Justice” that attends the IPCC conferences.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 2:48 pm
Hey Steve.

Julia’s going well with that clean air, huh?

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 2:51 pm
“League of Environmental Justice”

Sounds like my Institute. JC’s Global Warming and Fair Pay Institute.

Stepford, wtf is ‘vironmental justice? What does that even mean you oaf?

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:00 pm
Good blog post by Santorum at RedState: A Legacy for my Children

My plans for entitlement reform would unshackle beneficiaries from the federal government, unleash the power of market competition, and empower Americans with choice and control. For example, I would reform Medicare with a premium-support program that offers beneficiaries choice and control over their healthcare options. This would transform Medicare from a program run by government to a program that empowers seniors.

I would also block-grant Medicaid so that states have the flexibility to effectively manage their programs and offer the best options for beneficiaries. These, and other reform ideas will transform our federal entitlements from programs that breed dependency to programs that empower beneficiaries and encourage independence.

Conservatives know that I am committed to limiting government, expanding freedom, and putting America back on a sustainable fiscal path through cutting federal spending and entitlement reform, repealing and replacing ObamaCare, instituting pro-growth tax and regulatory policies, and unleashing America’s energy and manufacturing potential for a brighter future for America.

America faces a deficit of over $1 trillion for the fourth year in a row. The only way to truly tackle these deficits and to preserve our freedom is to reform entitlements, the fast-growing component of government spending. For the health of our economy and for the sake of our children and grandchildren, that is the path I will take.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:00 pm
She is like a rock in a sea of unreasoning electoral and media criticism, isn’t she, CL? Quite a praiseworthy display of resolve and calm.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 3:01 pm
“unreasonable” more than “unreasoning” is probably the word I was looking for.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 3:03 pm
Gillard in hiding today. No wonder she can’t face anyone, what with those disastrous poll results.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 3:09 pm
I absolutely support Gillard’s “resolve,” Steve.

She should hold fast to the carbon dioxide tax, not apologise for lying, continue to bash The Rich, continue to bash Da Miners, refuse to re-implement Howard’s Pacific Solution and rely more and more on Wayne Swan.

Go Julia. You go girl.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 3:11 pm
She is like a rock in a sea of unreasoning electoral and media criticism, isn’t she, CL? Quite a praiseworthy display of resolve and calm.

Good one her Stepford, I do hope Gillard stays on course and the back bench does not roll her.

She should ring Keating and Bligh to reinforce her view that ignoring public sentiment and the will of the former base of the Labor Party is a successful strategy.

As Tim Blair reports:

As one of Labor’s few alert operatives told The Daily Telegraph’s Laurie Oakes last week about his party’s leadership: “The Labor base is rejecting us, but they seem genuinely to think there is not a problem. If you don’t accept there is a problem, how do you fix it?”

Token

2 Apr 12 at 3:14 pm
Gillard in hiding today. No wonder she can’t face anyone, what with those disastrous poll results.

Anyone recall a few months ago how Stepford was telling us the polls were turning (and how he was in a state of elated excitement in doing so)?

I’m thinking the Slapper will be able to get support down to about 20% primary before she’s finished. I think she’s gunning to 20%.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:21 pm
David Ignatius one of Wa-Po many resident leberal leftists:

The court can’t stop the health-care revolution

Doctors are becoming salaried, joining the trend pushed by the Cleveland and Mayo clinics and some other top providers. Today, about 60 percent of doctors nationwide are on salary, up about 10 percent from several years ago. Cosgrove predicts that this will rise to at least 70 percent over the next decade.

Salaried doctors won’t have the same economic incentives to provide expensive treatments that may not make sense for patients. They’ll be paid well (an internist at Cleveland Clinic starts at about $120,000), but they won’t receive the stratospheric salaries that once encouraged many a doc to dream of driving a Porsche.

And that’s just one of many big-gov dreamy solutionsns cited.

Ala Terminator:

Listen, and understand! Leftists are out there!

They can’t be bargained with.

They can’t be reasoned with.

They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear…. just hatred

And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are a drone like them

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:21 pm
faith leaders

Never heard of them.

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 3:25 pm
The interesting and amusing thing is that Gillard can’t apologise or change because her number 1 policy is hating Tony Abbott. She can’t possibly be seen to concede that Abbott has been right all along. A more adept operator would have defused Abbott’s critique by gradually adopting his policies on contentious subjects like tha carbon dioxide tax and asylum seekers. But Gillard and her colleagues – as they’ve shown over and over again – are ruled by hatred.

Never-ending, white hot hatred for Tony Abbott and also John Howard. Consider this: nearly 1000 people have drowned because the Federal ALP cannot admit that Howard was right.

That transcends hatred. It’s actually sick.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 3:25 pm
secretly the ALP would like to have kevni back, i can just feel it.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 3:26 pm
Hey Candy, great comment earlier on bottoms.

What caused you to weigh in on this important subject?

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 3:29 pm
Candy

You gotta stop this fawning. It’s unhealthy and he’s married.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:29 pm
That transcends hatred. It’s actually sick.

Or ‘evil’.

That’s another apposite term

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:29 pm
The great thing is Gillard maintains she doesn’t “run” government by poll. Takes no notice of any polls whatsoever.

We have that going for us at least. Keep ignoring the polls, Jooles.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 3:29 pm
Yeah Candy.

Ur beginning to creep me out.

Besides, he’s an emotionally insecure wantonly destructive twerp.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:30 pm
Interestingly, the late Carl Sagan mounted a case for extraterrestial civilisations similar to Mad Uncle Bob – and mathematically deduced how many are likely to have survived as advanced technological societies instead of “extincting” themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0PWOJkWgcM&feature=related

Viva

2 Apr 12 at 3:34 pm
Too late Viva – see Sinc’s new post.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:35 pm
The ALP and the lying slapped are a carbon copy of Bligh and the Qld ALP. Lying, twisting and rewriting history. The are more fucked than fucked. Just like Stevie.

Their heads are so far up their arses, and they have locked themselves into such a predicament that only a back room revolt might get them up to 30% but then they have to admit the obvious and explain the deceit. Fucked either way but more so with the lying slapper

Tiny Dancer

2 Apr 12 at 3:39 pm
“Hey Candy, great comment earlier on bottoms.
What caused you to weigh in on this important subject?”

Ms Greer’s comments started the issue, i was just stating the obvious.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 3:39 pm
She can’t possibly be seen to concede that Abbott has been right all along.

Mainly because he wasn’t. “Just get the ETS over and done with” used to be his line.

Asylum seekers – the government is not morally responsible for the drownings at sea of people it clearly does not want to come that way. You want you people to take more responsibility in everything, except on matters where you think you can blame a Labor government if they don’t.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 3:40 pm
Mad Dog Bob lifted this theory from something I read once.

The theory is that there are very few advanced civilizations around because nearly all are unable to get around the enormous compound growth rate of energy demand required.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:40 pm
Oh, hi, Tiny Malevolent Dancer.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 3:41 pm
Of course, The Greenslimers and the Liars Party are desperately trying to never put that theory to the test, as they are the first political parties with an anti-electricity policy. They hate it.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:42 pm
The single greatest problem with Mars has been it’s poor oil reserves JC.

It never really recovered from the disappointment

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:43 pm
…the government is not morally responsible for the drownings at sea of people it clearly does not want to come that way.

Your stupidity is endless. Get down to centrelink when you have done the ironing

Tiny Dancer

2 Apr 12 at 3:43 pm
Stepford,

It would be safe to say, Tiny doesn’t like you, yea?

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:43 pm
Mr Rudd has said he’d reduce the carbon price and revise border security policies as what he’d done before was a mistake. Back as leader the ALP would be completely revitalised and polls way up again,

blind freddie can see that.
Niki Sawa journalist lady said on Bolt show yesterday the ALP can’t just change the carbon tax, or just the leader, it has to be both.

spot on, she understands the problem, in my opinion.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 3:48 pm
and jamsieK don’t be such a camp follower of jc,

’tis better to think for 1self.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 3:49 pm
CL and his women’s hip and butt obsession probably spends his time “daggering” at his local RSL on disco nights.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 3:49 pm
the government is not morally responsible for the drownings at sea of people

What I thought was even more devious was the Malaysain Soultion where people would be sent form here to a fate of whippings, torture and traded on the sex slave market and all paid for by taxpayers for the price of a cool $90 million. That plan had a touch of genius about it.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 3:50 pm
Asylum seekers – the government is not morally responsible for the drownings at sea of people it clearly does not want to come that way.

Steve’s an idiot, but that statement is correct. Why should the government be responsible for the actions of foreign people in their own countries, who put themselves at risk by their own hand?

John Mc

2 Apr 12 at 3:51 pm
Saw on one these on the road this weekend. It’s the most beautiful car ever made.

I saw the gullwing and I thought it looked kind of ridiculous in real life. It is absolutely tiny. If you have the money get an Aston Martin vantage or vanquish, similar styling but looks like a real car.

AJ

2 Apr 12 at 3:54 pm
Candy;

I agreed with your butt hypothesis. Does that make me your ~~butt~~ camp follower?

Don’t be an idiot.

Lots of people have noticed this unnatural, unhealthy obsession you have with the disagreeable little turd.
We’re trying to help you overcome it.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:54 pm
CL and his women’s hip and butt obsession…

Yes, women’s curves are a unique fetish, Steve.

Very out there.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 3:55 pm
I saw the gullwing and I thought it looked kind of ridiculous in real life. It is absolutely tiny.

No it’s not. It struck me as quite long and stretched particularly the front.

If you have the money get an Aston Martin vantage or vanquish, similar styling but looks like a real car.

You’re peddling a fucking Ford?

Go away AJ. You have no taste.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:56 pm
Have we done Ross Gittins’ latest contribution on “macro-economic externalities” yet?

Denniss suggests a thought experiment: if all of Australia’s mineral resources were controlled by a monopolist, would it respond to the present exceptionally high world prices by building as many new mines as possible, as quickly as possible?

Would a monopolist bid against itself for scarce labour and infrastructure capacity? Or would it invest in training and infrastructure before it began expanding production?

The solution:

Denniss’ point is: why should we allow the miners to turn the decision about which mines get built first into a race rather than a ranking? And why should we bear the macro-economic costs generated by the miners’ race to be first out the door with our resources?

He proposes that new mining projects be required to bid at auction for a set number of development permits. This would ensure the most profitable projects proceeded first.

If you don’t like that, he says the same effect could be achieved by removing the mining industry’s subsidies on fuel and alleged research and development spending.

The paper from TAI is here. Quite brazenly it asks, “how fast should the mining construction boom be allowed to develop”?

New Gold Dream

2 Apr 12 at 3:57 pm
Mr Rudd has said he’d reduce the carbon price

He didn’t run on it as a policy alternative for the leadership last month.

Huge mistake in my view.

JamesK

2 Apr 12 at 3:57 pm
CL and his women’s hip and butt obsession…

Yeah, he’s part of a tiny kink-fetish group, apparently known as ‘heterosexual men’.

John Mc

2 Apr 12 at 3:58 pm
The git wants a miners panel? God he’s an idiot.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 3:58 pm
CL and his women’s hip and butt obsession…

No, no. I’m with Steve on this. Far better to have obsessions revolving around buttplugs, girls and horses, airplanes falling from the sky, and possums, just like Steve has.

CL, you and your admiration of the female form is just so sick and twisted.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 4:02 pm
…and you’d also be better off, like Steve, to focus on matters concerning the penis and semen.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 4:04 pm
Why should the government be responsible for the actions of foreign people in their own countries, who put themselves at risk by their own hand?

They’re responsible for a policy demonstrably, quantitatively shown to increase the number of people making that decision. So the choice is between a policy that stopped the boats (and hence saved lives) and a policy that doesn’t stop the boats (and costs lives). To spite John Howard, Labor chooses the latter. The only reason they’re comfortable with the death toll is that, to them, hatred of Howard and Abbott is worth the price.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 4:04 pm
Sure, but the reason for the policy is that we don’t want to deal with the problem or expend the public resources cleaning it up. With regards to their welfare it’s all care but no responsibility. Or at least it should be. There’s no reason for guilt on our part if they put themselves at risk.

John Mc

2 Apr 12 at 4:07 pm
CL: you’re wrong about there being no eastern religions pursuing missionary activities in slums. I personally did a bit of voluntary work in such a place – a Tibetan Buddhist monastery in Mongolia that wasn’t a missionary in the catholic sense of the word, but they did missionary-like work ie. feeding the poor of the area, taking in abused women, etc; as well as providing a monastery for Buddhist nuns. I know there are many similar places such as this around Asia. Certainly, Theravada (yellow hat) Buddhists don’t tend to do much “missionary” work because of the nature of their beliefs; however, Mahayana (red hat) do because of the additional compassion angle they hold as part of their concept of karma.

As for Tibet, I’m not saying that pre-Mao Tibet was a paradise, but much of the information regarding that period emanates from the Chinese, and I think you need to be very leery about what they claim about the issue. To say they have an agenda would be the understatement of the decade. Furthermore, I’m not sure that you could say Tibet has been massively better off post-invasion, when you consider the impact that it’s had on Tibetan society and culture. It takes more than a few highways and railways to make up for the depredation of the Cultural Revolution, to give but one example of gross Chinese misrule in Tibet, which to Tibetan religion really was the equivalent of thoroughly sacking the Vatican.

Oh come on

2 Apr 12 at 4:18 pm
Having given Libya to al Qaeda, Barack Hussein is not done yet.

He has now given Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood:

The Muslim Brotherhood nominated its chief strategist and financier Khairat el-Shater on Saturday as its candidate to become Egypt’s first president since Hosni Mubarak, breaking a pledge not to seek the top office and a monopoly on power…

Despite the recent anti-American activities in Egypt, the Obama Administration announced in March that it would waive democracy requirements and release $1.5 billion in US aid to the Muslim Brotherhood-dominated government in Egypt.

Worst president ever.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 4:25 pm
CL is more upset by this than the Israelis, by the sounds:

Israel’s vice prime minister is playing down the Muslim Brotherhood’s decision to seek the presidency in neighboring Egypt.

Vice Premier Moshe Yaalon says maintaining peace with Israel is in any Egyptian leader’s interest, and that Cairo’s relationship with Washington is linked to the peace deal.

He told Israel Radio on Sunday that “as long as … the Muslim Brotherhood president understands Egypt’s commitments and its interests, that will preserve the peace deal.”

Israel’s 1979 peace agreement with Egypt is a pillar of security for both countries, but Israelis have become increasingly concerned over its future under Egypt’s Islamist-dominated parliament.

As parliament’s largest party, the Brotherhood’s candidate is the front-runner in Egypt’s May presidential elections.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 4:32 pm
Stepf

Do you realize all your open comments have been devoted to CL today? How pathetic are you?

JC

2 Apr 12 at 4:33 pm
He asked me a question, JC. I was polite and answered, then made some comments relating to him.

It’s all very simple, really.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 4:35 pm
That’s actually a diplomatic warning, Steve.

“maintaining peace with Israel is in any Egyptian leader’s interest”

You stunningly dumb doofus.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 4:35 pm
Denniss argues there is a market failure due to “macro-economic externalities” that justify intervening to slow the expansion of mining activity.

The following sections make the case that there are significant negative macroeconomic externalities associated with the development of mines of the size discussed above, externalities such as inflationary infrastructure bottlenecks, inflationary shortages of skilled labour and rapid exchange rate appreciation, are all likely to be associated with the decisions if individual minerals developments of the scale of the China First mine.

I may need to re-acquaint myself formally with the discipline of economics, this is the first time I have come across the subject. Pecuniary externalities I understand but macro-economic ones are new to me at the moment.

New Gold Dream

2 Apr 12 at 4:37 pm
“maintaining peace with Israel is in any Egyptian leader’s interest”

I love the way the Israeli’s do business. If they drop a little hint like that you’d better listen. Either that or you might find an unexpected Mossad agent in your hotel room or clamping a bomb on your car door.

John Mc

2 Apr 12 at 4:42 pm
Speaking of Egypt, this is a great Egyptian blog for those that don’t already know it:

http://www.sandmonkey.org

John Mc

2 Apr 12 at 4:50 pm
Good news. While Germany is shutting theirs down..

“The renaissance in American nuclear energy has begun,”

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 5:00 pm
The Catholic Bishop Brotherhood in Oz and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt – what’s the world coming to?

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 5:18 pm
Let’s not play bible games

I can show Jesus disliked welfare and central planning:

Mark 14:3-9

3 And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head. 4 And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? 5 For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her.
6 And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. 7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. 8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying. 9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

.

2 Apr 12 at 5:29 pm
Sound familiar?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/9179475/Tory-MPs-round-on-David-Cameron-and-George-Osborne.html

Viva

2 Apr 12 at 5:32 pm
Hey AJ,

get back here and apologize for your stupid comment.

I saw the gullwing and I thought it looked kind of ridiculous in real life. It is absolutely tiny.

really, it’s tiny is it?

Length 183 inches width 76.

Aston Martin Vantage

H 173 inches W 79.7

It’s longer you idiot.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 5:32 pm
Birdie on his Fat Electrons, And ALTERNATIVE half-assed and half-baked Models. thread.

NO YOU CANNOT BE PUTTING OUT YOUR GAY MATERIAL ON MY SITE FELLA. KIDS READ THIS BLOG FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 6:03 pm
ALPBC moronism:

It is extremely difficult for a government with a hostile press, a deeply negative opposition, and an ignorant public to sell complex scientific and social policy issues.

WTF?

- Those awful, hostile presstitutes of the lurve media /sarc off
- Yabbott’s unrelenting negativity
- You stupid bogans don’t know what’s good for you

Unbelievable.

Rabz

2 Apr 12 at 6:09 pm
KIDS READ THIS BLOG FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

Won’t anyone think of the children!

Rabz

2 Apr 12 at 6:10 pm
Is anyone aware of how WWF arrived at the 1B figure having turned their lights off on Saturday night? Fourteen % of the planet population seemed a little optimistic to me.

Philip Crowley

2 Apr 12 at 6:15 pm
As entirely expected, Republican choice of election themes, such as the importance of women not having access to contraception in their health insurance, is reflected in polling:

President Obama has opened the first significant lead of the 2012 campaign in the nation’s dozen top battleground states, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, boosted by a huge shift of women to his side.

In the fifth Swing States survey taken since last fall, Obama leads Republican front-runner Mitt Romney 51%-42% among registered voters just a month after the president had trailed him by two percentage points.

The biggest change came among women under 50. In mid-February, just under half of those voters supported Obama. Now more than six in 10 do while Romney’s support among them has dropped by 14 points, to 30%. The president leads him 2-1 in this group.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 6:15 pm
Perhaps JamesK will drop in to suggest that if Santorum was the candidate, the figures might be different. (They would be, of course: even worse.)

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 6:18 pm
Thanks for linking to LGF, Steve. The proprietor of that site is a mentally unwell genocide loving maniac.

Infidel Tiger

2 Apr 12 at 6:19 pm
Who’d vote for the Mormon Brotherhood?

Certainly not women!

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 6:19 pm
ALPBC moronism:

It is extremely difficult for a government with a hostile press, a deeply negative opposition, and an ignorant public to sell complex scientific and social policy issues.

WTF?

You can tell from the articles they publish and teh comments the moderators choose to accept that the ABC really is a sheltered workshop for those unable to survive in the real world.

Dr Jo Coghlan lectures in politics at the School of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of New South Wales.

She is a regular writer on human rights issues and is the co-editor of Seeking Refuge: Asylum Seekers and Politics in a Globalising World (Halstead Press, Sydney, 2005).

Token

2 Apr 12 at 6:19 pm
Charles Johnson is simply the messenger, IT. Nice hand wave, though.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 6:20 pm
Charles Johnson is your North American doppelganger.

I’d hang myself in the ladies room with a necktie if someone said that about me.

Infidel Tiger

2 Apr 12 at 6:23 pm
Even this shameful government has the responsibity of passing laws which encourage people not to come to our shores in shit buckets over the ocean. All they did was pass a law aimed at that very thing which blind freddy knew wouldn’t work.

Stevie – nothing to see here just false blame of the ALP – typical of the leftward view of the world.

How about some cock talk Stevie?

Tiny Dancer

2 Apr 12 at 6:28 pm
CL:

Never-ending, white hot hatred for Tony Abbott and also John Howard. Consider this: nearly 1000 people have drowned because the Federal ALP cannot admit that Howard was right.

That transcends hatred. It’s actually sick.

Well said.

it also reveals their innate, built-in-at-the-DNA level racism, a racism they share with all leftists.

Recall what the amoral and disgusting ‘senator’ hansen-young said when yet another 50 little brown people drowned in the Christmas island shipwreck? ‘Tragedies happen’. And then the media fell silent in complicity with the Green-ALP killings.

What she said in practical terms was ‘Shit happens, and I don’t care, they are just untermenschen and I still feel morally superior!’

The ALP and the Greens have blood on their hands. 1000+ people have died so they can boast to each other about how great a pack of humanitarians they are.

Their parliamentarians and senators bear personal responsibility for 9 deaths each.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 6:32 pm
Labor policy errors are based on not admitting that Howard was wrong.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 6:35 pm
Yea, Rabz. Today I have verily been part of ‘an ignorant public’. I have so much to do I have ended up doing nothing but making a few phone calls getting other people to do things for me. Just pigged out on the last of the Chrismas cake too. Have barely moved from the sofa. They’d better sic the health police onto me.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

2 Apr 12 at 6:38 pm
Attention Earthians! Your leader speaks:

The Australian Greens today urged leaders across business and the community who support putting a price on carbon to tackle the climate crisis to have the courage of their convictions and publicly support the reform.

Stop laughing. They’re serious.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 6:43 pm
LGF’s Charles Johnson went troppo a couple of years ago.

He is not “just a messenger” he is a raving ratbag.

Nobody outside the loony left takes him seriously any more, FFS.

Pedro the Ignorant

2 Apr 12 at 6:45 pm
it also reveals their innate, built-in-at-the-DNA level racism, a racism they share with all leftists.

Your incessant accusations of racism are tiresome, 49.

Tiresome and annoying, in light of your use of the word “Paleosimian” as a slur against Palestinians and your insistence that you should be free to use the word “n*gger” as freely as you wish, since only “bedwetters” would object.

You are a self-righteous phoney, 49. A real jackass.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 6:49 pm
The Australian community loves solar power, loves the idea of an electric car fleet, of high speed rail, of a world class public transport system.

And just as Australians love all this, so your leader speaks truly and will lead you into the Promised Land. All pray together, now, to the Great Gaia and her host of Advanced Aliens.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

2 Apr 12 at 6:54 pm
I would add: I find it amusing that the highly emotional and over the top condemnation of Labor and The Left and All That it Stands For and Ever Has Stood For that is routine here from CL, MK50, and (frankly) most others here is also combined (in at least the case of CL and Mk50) with regular condemnations of Labor for “hating” so much.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 6:55 pm
Also, Iq49, in case you had forgotten we are still waiting for you to apologise for lying about your use of the word “Paleosimian”.

You said that you had never used it as a slur against Palestinians, but the simplest of google searches showed that that was a lie, and that you had regularly used it is as a racial slur.

So apologise for being a lying, racist turd.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 6:56 pm
Les the racist kiddie is awake, I see.

And still a homonym denier.

How amusing.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 7:02 pm
The Australian community loves solar power, loves the idea of an electric car fleet, of high speed rail, of a world class public transport system.

and they are especially thrilled at the prospect of Bob Brown as One World Leader. An Earthian, not so much lacklustre as soporific, he’s a triumph of the middling, a showcase of lunacy. All Hail Bingo Bob.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 7:05 pm
All Hail ~~Bingo~~ Bungboy Bob.

FTFY!

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 7:08 pm
Back from centrelink a little late Stevie?

Tiny Dancer

2 Apr 12 at 7:18 pm
Why yes, My dear little racistkiddie. As I have clearly demonstrated to you previously, it is perfectly possible to use obnoxious terms in public discourse.

As you are pulling your normal bedwetter routine, I’ll demonstrate it again.

One of my personal heroes is the great Frederick Douglass. Here’s a quote from his autobiography:

“Very soon after I went to live with Mr. and Mrs. Auld, she very kindly commenced to teach me the A, B, C. After I had learned this, she assisted me in learning to spell words of three or four letters. Just at this point of my progress, Mr. Auld found out what was going on, and at once forbade Mrs. Auld to instruct me further, telling her, among other things, that it was unlawful, as well as unsafe, to teach a slave to read. To use his own words, further, he said, “If you give a nigger an inch, he will take an ell. A nigger should know nothing but to obey his master–to do as he is told to do. Learning would ~spoil~ the best nigger in the world. Now,” said he, “if you teach that nigger (speaking of myself) how to read, there would be no keeping him. It would forever unfit him to be a slave. He would at once become unmanageable, and of no value to his master.”

I hold this work in the same very high regard I hold its author, demonstrating as it does the power of the human spirit, and the sheer innate dignity and strength of one of the greatest men of the nineteenth century. Someone who makes that scabrous, squalid little pervert karl marx look like the scungy mongrel he was.

And the odd thing is, you believe that Frederick Douglass is a racist! You have clearly stated this in your hilariously juvenile ‘thought’ that ‘everyone who uses a term I define as racist must be a racist.’

Oh look, racistkiddie, you used that term. You are also the only one pretending that a homonym has only one possible meaning. You view the world through a racial lens and you repeatedly make this plain in your comments here. That’s why and how I realised you were a racist to the bone. Your own actions betrayed you.

Nothing more clearly demonstrates your intellectual vapidity, immaturity and low quality.

And I greatly enjoy watching you dig your self deeper into that hole with every word you write.

Please carry on.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 7:33 pm
Love Stevie when he gets all seriously sincere and says “speaking frankly”.

Who is Frank, Stevie?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

2 Apr 12 at 7:35 pm
Sorry Stevie, being juvenile. You only said ‘frankly’, not ‘speaking frankly’. I still wonder about ‘frankly’ though. An odd word. Always brings Rhett Butler to mind.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

2 Apr 12 at 7:41 pm
The long wait is over.

Winter is here…

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 7:44 pm
Hey Lester:

Here’s a right wing site that agrees with you on the Martin Case.

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/03/29/count-me-out-on-trayvon-martin

It sounds broadly okish, however I disagree with some of it.

Ann Coulter raised a good point on ABC This Week in which she suggested that the “stand your ground’ laws are irrelevant because Zimmerman’s back was on the ground, unable to retreat and therefore makes it a case of self defense rather than SYG.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 7:52 pm
Still trying to justify a racial killing, JC?

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 7:54 pm
Nothing more clearly demonstrates your intellectual vapidity, immaturity and low quality.

Next up: Mk50 explains why it’s hilarious, pertinent and not juvenile at all that in every comment about Bob Brown his anus must get a mention. Also, that when discussing Marr, “fag” and rumours about his spectacular gay sex life and possible STDs (who knew Mk50 would have his ear close to the ground to Sydney gay community rumours?) got a repeated run yesterday. But that’s all just in good fun when its a gay man who annoys you, I presume.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 7:55 pm
Still trying to justify a racial killing, JC?

Get seriously fucked Bob, you disgusting fat sack of rancid turd.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 7:58 pm
Les the racistkiddie:

You said that you had never used it as a slur against Palestinians,

Correct. And in weeks of frantic googling, you found not one example, did you?

but the simplest of google searches showed that that was a lie,

Nope, it showed that after all your weeks of googling, you found that on one occasion, while stoushing with one of the worst anti-semites in Australia over his support for Hamas, it was used in a way you could cherrypick. Nice try, homonym denier, but no banana for you!

and that you had regularly used it is as a racial slur.

I love the way you can expand one cherry-pickable example to ‘regular use’.

It’s called projection, racistkiddie.

Oh, just to twist the knife, racistkiddie: Frederick Douglass was a US Republican. At the 1888 Republican National Convention, Douglass became the first black American to receive a vote for President of the United States in a major party’s roll call vote. At the time, the progressives (Democrats) where organising and running the KKK.

Racism – in progressives, tranzis and leftists it’s innate, a feature, never a bug.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 8:03 pm
The long wait is over.

Winter is here…

Indeed.

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 8:06 pm
Well, thank you JC. It’s good to see that American Spectator would run someone who said the same as me:

“If I had a son, he would look just like Trayvon Martin.” What’s wrong with that? When President Obama went to Israel he said, “If somebody shot rockets at my house where my two daughters were sleeping at night, I’d do everything in my power to stop them.” Was that introducing sex and religion into international relations? No, he was just empathizing. That’s what Presidents are supposed to do….

Look, just because President Obama says something doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Let’s not be naïve. George Zimmerman introduced race into the incident at the beginning when he decided to follow Martin because of the way he looked. If Martin had been a white preppie in a suit and tie, he never would have given him a second glance.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 8:07 pm
Semenologist from Brisbane:

who knew Mk50 would have his ear close to the ground to Sydney gay community rumours

I have made no secret of having homosexual relatives and friends in Sydney and elsewhere.

You want rough jokes and gallows humour? Police, critical care nurses and homosexuals have the roughest humour in town. Bobby Brown is despised by conservative homosexuals, and the jokes they tell about the bastard are epic.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 8:09 pm
The North Remembers, Gab.

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 8:10 pm
Semenologist from Brisbane:

George Zimmerman introduced race into the incident at the beginning when he decided to follow Martin because of the way he looked. If Martin had been a white preppie in a suit and tie, he never would have given him a second glance.

Racism – in progressives, tranzis and leftists it’s innate, a feature, never a bug.

I rest my case.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 8:11 pm
Hey, didn’t Combet call Abbott racist over the carbon tax last year? lol

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 8:14 pm
Stepford

I didn’t say I agreed with all of it. Zimmerman had a decent case to be wary of a black kid as against the suited white man seeing the crime stats are off the charts for that group. Anyone suggesting humans don’t mentally profile are basically leftwing innumerate fuckwits like you of course.

A blond mother with two kids is not as likely to blow up an airplane compared to a middle eastern male for instance. That’s a statistical fact, Henry.

As of the Kenyan suggesting the kid looked like him is strange coming from a president, especially a post-racial one.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 8:15 pm
The North remembers but I’ll have to watch the last two episodes from last season (ha!) to remember, Dover.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 8:16 pm
Racism in nazi germany was not a leftist disorder, my little apologist for racial killings.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 8:20 pm
Let’s not be naïve. George Zimmerman introduced race into the incident at the beginning when he decided to follow Martin because of the way he looked. If Martin had been a white preppie in a suit and tie, he never would have given him a second glance.

It seems that William Tucker is talking through his hat or ass, given the facts of the case.

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 8:20 pm
I have made no secret of having homosexual relatives and friends in Sydney and elsewhere.

I must have missed that in the middle of some your tedious comments which read more as Right wing attempts at performance art than anything else.

Bobby Brown is despised by conservative homosexuals, and the jokes they tell about the bastard are epic.

And also completely irrelevant to about 95% of issues Brown talks about as a politician.

Do us a favour – try to comment in a normal person’s voice for a while, with consideration for civil discourse in terms of what reads to any reasonable person as racist insults, or juvenile and irrelevant insult to gay men or women.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 8:23 pm
Zimmerman, state-appointed vigilante, should have stayed home minding his own business instead of being out there messing lives up with his addled-brained racism.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 8:24 pm
get back here and apologize for your stupid comment.

Then clearly it is an issue of dimensions and scale. It is too long for its low height making it look small and ridiculous.

AJ

2 Apr 12 at 8:25 pm
You’re a disgusting sack of shit, Bob.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 8:25 pm
Racism was introduced when Odumbo made that racially divisive remark. Zimmerman mentors kids, including blacks. And if Martin was wearing a hoodie and if Zimmerman was following him from behind,then how would Z know he was black in the first instance when he decided to follow him?

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 8:26 pm
AJ:

You said it was tiny and compared to the Aston Martin. No excuses. You were wrong. Apologize.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 8:27 pm
Fine. I was wrong on the dimensions of the car. I am deeply sorry. However having seen both, the Aston Martin looks awesome and the gullwing looks like the batgirl mobile.

AJ

2 Apr 12 at 8:30 pm
Racism was introduced when Odumbo made that racially divisive remark.

Utterly wrong. The investigation by the Justice Department was already underway when Obama commented.

The social media storm about it being an unarmed black youth who was shot just for looking suspicious (as the earlier version went) had already prompted this.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 8:30 pm
Horst Wessel and George Zimmerman – heroes of the right.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 8:31 pm
You’re wrong, Steve, as usual.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 8:32 pm
AJ
Why is it next to impossible in being able to extract an apology or retraction from a leftie? What is it that causes you to even deny dimensions? I frankly don’t get it the mental deficiency.

Please explain.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 8:33 pm
Zimmerman is a registered Democrat you pathetic moron, Max.

Go away swampy.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 8:34 pm
No wonder no one from the left touches the fucker any more. He’s off his fucking rocker.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 8:35 pm
The dispatcher introduced race when she asked for a racial description.
Zimmerman was following Martin because of his behaviour.

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 8:37 pm
Here’s an interesting poll at the NRO.

In a dispute between Olbermann and Gore, whom do you side with?
Olbermann

24 %

Gore

76 %

Pity there’s none of the above choice.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 8:42 pm
Who’d vote for the Mormon Brotherhood?

Barack Hussein?

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 8:48 pm
Obama Campaign Demands Romney’s Tax Returns From the ’80s.

Meanwhile Doug Ross points out that Obama has yet to release any of the following:

1.Tax returns from the 80s
2.Tax returns from the 90s
3.Occidental College records and transcripts
4.Columbia University records and transcripts
5.Columbia Thesis paper
6.Harvard University records and transcripts
7.Medical records
8.Illinois State Senate schedule
9.Illinois State Senate records
10.Law practice client list
11.Certified Copy of Original Birth certificate
12.Harvard Law Review articles published
13.University of Chicago scholarly articles
14.Record of Baptism

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 8:50 pm
IPA & Daily Terror embarrass themselves in attack on Tim Flannery:

A strange angle, you’d think, given that more people found Flannery reliable (31%) than unreliable (24%). A killer quote from Melbourne University young Liberal warrior-turned IPA researcher James Paterson was included, criticising Flannery for “regularly making predictions that have turned out to be false”.

Flannery was permitted a short closing response on the need to focus on facts not opinion.

Galaxy also took a different view.

“Opinion on the reliability of Tim Flannery as a source of information about climate change is divided,” Galaxy explained in its “Main Findings” section.

The reason? More people actually found him reliable (31%) than unreliable (24%). A crucial additional fact from the survey went unreported. The greatest number, 45%, were uncommitted.

Galaxy explains: “A sizeable minority (45%) are uncommitted. This will include those not sure how reliable he is as a source of information as well as those who don’t know who he is.”

So, 76% of respondents had either a positive or neutral opinion of Flannery.

Jones’ lede took the minority perspective:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/04/02/flannery-hits-back-at-ipa-polling-on-his-credibility/

lol

LaRouchite

2 Apr 12 at 8:53 pm
I would add*: I find it amusing that the highly emotional and over the top condemnation of Labor and The Left and All That it Stands For and Ever Has Stood For that is routine here from CL, MK50, and (frankly) most others here is also combined (in at least the case of CL and Mk50) with regular condemnations of Labor for “hating” so much.

* Steve channels Mark Bahnisch to sound sophisticated – which is tough for a person who jokes about injured teen horse-riders, genital warts and dildoes.

So what you’re saying Steve is that we hate “the left” – meaning the ideas and pathologies of an ideology – and that this is “ironic” given our criticism of the left’s hatred of people.

You really are a dumbo.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 8:59 pm
CL, it would be racist to demand from Obama the same standards he demands of Romney.

And don’t deny that you’re racist – that’s just proof that you’re racist.

You know I’m right. Just ask Max.

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 9:02 pm
Ah, Zimmerman, a registered Democrat is compared by Max to a late Nazi activist. Zimmerman is no wondering to himself: With ‘friends’ like these…

dover_beach

2 Apr 12 at 9:06 pm
an unstable person carrying a firearm can be any colour, height, weight, race, sexual orienation, rich, poor, vote Democrat or not, in the Marines or just anything

why did he have a gun if he had known issues of spouse abuse or whatever it is and was deflected from the police force don’t they control that sort of stuff over there or can anyone carry a leathal weapon in a position of some kind of authority such as Neighbour Watch

candy

2 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
“if he had known issues of spouse abuse.”
You really need to back that one up with a link, candy, because that’s the first I’ve heard of this.

By the time the left get through with this, Zimmerman will be the Devils child, and Trayvon will be a Saint.

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 9:22 pm
i dont’ know how to link Winston, but i read it on A. Bolt’s site.

no-one’s a devil’s child and no-one’s a saint.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 9:25 pm
In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

Link. I haven’t read what the fiancee alleged he actually did in terms of domestic violence.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 9:27 pm
an unstable person

What? So you’ve interviewed and assessed his state of mind and you conclude he is unstable. Is that your professional opinion?

why did he have a gun if he had known issues of spouse abuse or whatever it is

Did he? And to what do you refer when you say “or whatever it is”?

can anyone carry a leathal weapon in a position of some kind of authority such as Neighbour Watch

Registered gun owners can, as is the case for Zimmerman.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 9:30 pm
Maxie the NSDAP Squealboi:

Zimmerman, state-appointed vigilante,

Sod off you stupid swampie.

hey folks, this whackjob is claiming that Preshizzle (Paco ™) Odumbugger appointed a registered Hispanic Democrat to shoot black guys!

He’s swapped smack for LSD, has Squealer.

Sod off swampie.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 9:30 pm
The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

Wow. Serious stuff.

In December 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. The case was dismissed when the officer failed to show up in court.

An indication he’s a racist and “unstable”.

The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

lol oh yeah that must indicate spousal abuse.

Oh yeah and all this in 2005 – 2006.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 9:35 pm
47

JC

2 Apr 12 at 9:35 pm
Link. I haven’t read what the fiancee alleged he actually did in terms of domestic violence.

Strange, I thought I was linking to an apology from NBC for cutting and pasting Zimmerman’s tape to the police.

Rather, Dr Snip provides another link from an organisation that has doctored evidence to stir up racial hatred – the Snip & Slime network.

How apt for Liar-Steve.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:36 pm
First NBC was caught lying about that CCTV footage of George Zimmerman and then caught doctoring the police transcript of interview (for which an investigation is now underway).

Now CBS has beclowned itself.

The Florida funeral director who handled the burial of Trayvon Martin says there were no signs of a scuffle on the dead teen, contradicting the story of the man who claimed he killed Martin during a violent scuffle. Martin died of a gunshot, the only apparent injury says the funeral director.

No no. There is no “contradiction.”

Ace of Spades brings the clue bat.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 9:40 pm
This is Mother Jone’s talking about the Snip & Slime Network Steve links to:

When even Kevin Drum at Mother Jones has to call NBC out over their outrageous editing of George Zimmerman’s 911 call to portray him as racist, you know it’s bad. NBC may try to pass it off as one miscue, or mis-edit, somehow – but many will argue NBC portrayed Zimmerman precisely as they wanted to and they as well as other networks have been doing all along.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:40 pm
Hey candy, how many hours on the stairmaster today?

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 9:43 pm
Candy, how did I just know you wouldn’t be able to give a link?
You’ve blown a lot of credibility there, girl.

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 9:44 pm
These are Alinsky’s rules.

They work even better on the left as it confuses the hell out of them and they think it’s unfair.

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

2. Never go outside the experience of your people.

3. Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy.

4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.

6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.

7. A tactic that drags on too long is a drag.

8. Keep the pressure on.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counter side.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize and polarize it.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 9:46 pm
Why would the same liberal commentariat that lionised Teddy Kennedy have the gall to report breathlessly that George Zimmerman’s estranged wife filed a boilerplate ‘restraining order’ against him?

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 9:47 pm
In the end, an Orange County circuit judge ordered them to stay away from each other for more than a year.

lol

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 9:48 pm
Hi winston
I have problems linking, it’s an issue for moi.

i read this on Mr Bolt’s site by several different posters and not the “left” ones either, i don’t bother with those dingbats.

It was posted by just your usual conservatives looking for more facts.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 9:49 pm
Still waiting for Obama to say the parents of this girl she could’ve been his niece – you know from the Dunhams from Kansas:

“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” The death of Trayvon Martin is a tragedy–as was the death of a 6-year-old girl named Aliyah Shell (photo above), caught in the crossfire of gang violence over St. Patrick’s Day weekend in Chicago.

But Aliyah’s story received very little coverage, despite the event being more recent than the Martin tragedy, and despite the fact that it happened in President Barack Obama’s very own Chicago on a weekend when 49 people were shot and 10 others were killed.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
CL:

Why would the same liberal commentariat that lionised Teddy Kennedy have the gall to report breathlessly that George Zimmerman’s estranged wife filed a boilerplate ‘restraining order’ against him?

Because she did not drown, CL. If he’d given her a Chappaquiddick swimming lesson, they’d be lionising Jorge Z.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
“Hey candy, how many hours on the stairmaster today?”

Enough to keep my bottom like a nice firm peach, General Paton.

candy

2 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
Obama’s Alinsky strategy:

It is calculating and it is dangerous, part of a bigger picture–a multi-faceted war to divide America for the sole purpose of securing Obama’s re-election and subsequent radical social change.

Look at the contrived conflicts on the left wing’s political chessboard:

Move 1 Occupy Wall Street: the (self-appointed) 99% versus the 1%

Move 2 Contraceptive/abortifacient mandates: government versus religion

Move 3 Sandra Fluke: women versus conservatives (supposedly)

And now…

Move 4 Trayvon Martin: black versus “white” (so-called)

This is not complicated. President Obama is organizing. It’s that simple, and it’s straight out of the radical playbook:

“Once you organize people, they’ll keep advancing from issue to issue toward the ultimate objective: people power. We’ll not only give them a cause, we’ll make life goddamn exciting for them again — life instead of existence. We’ll turn them on…” – Saul Alinsky

This is not about Trayvon Martin. This is about divide and conquer. Hope and Change has been replaced with Us vs. Them. This about pitting Americans against Americans.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:53 pm
Also at Token’s link:

Look at the contrived conflicts on the left wing’s political chessboard:

Move 1 Occupy Wall Street: the (self-appointed) 99% versus the 1%

Move 2 Contraceptive/abortifacient mandates: government versus religion

Move 3 Sandra Fluke: women versus conservatives (supposedly)

And now…

Move 4 Trayvon Martin: black versus “white” (so-called)

This is not complicated. President Obama is organizing. It’s that simple, and it’s straight out of the radical playbook:

“Once you organize people, they’ll keep advancing from issue to issue toward the ultimate objective: people power. We’ll not only give them a cause, we’ll make life goddamn exciting for them again — life instead of existence. We’ll turn them on…” – Saul Alinsky

This is not about Trayvon Martin. This is about divide and conquer. Hope and Change has been replaced with Us vs. Them. This about pitting Americans against Americans.

Nah, the lefties aren’t that strategically savvy.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
lol Snap, Token

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
The Left have been used to making an issue, then running away to the next one before the Right get around to questioning the ‘narrative’.
The internet has changed that, and the global warming scam is coming apart because we’ve been able to do something that only they were able to do – network.
It is also occurring with the Zimmerman – Trayvon episode. The Left has been surprised gleefully tossing around the entrails of the shooting before they could dart off to the next cause du jour.
They’ve been trapped red handed and are trying to slide away, and it’s not working. Not for the Left, and especially not for the Left Media.

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
I can’t see any leftist defending the racist Zimmerman, but he’s lionised by the right – just like Horst Wessel.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 9:56 pm
but he’s lionised by the right

Really, you patheitc loser. And who is doing this “lionisg”. C’mon, name names.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
Who you going to believe, the people snipping the police tape or your lying eyes?

The neighbor is talking for the first time about what he saw on George Zimmerman’s face less than 24-hours after Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

“I saw George. He was banged up. His head had two big bandages, that weren’t flat, had a bump on them,” the neighbor, who did not want to be identified, said.

He described where the injuries were.

“I seen him have a big bandage on his nose and his nose swollen. On the side, where his eyes were at, it was swollen,” he said.

He points out exactly where on a picture.

“I seen the bandage right here, and this side of his nose and this side of his nose was swollen.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
In case you haven’t heard, today is World Autism Day! In a spasm of solidarity, luvvie kwigg’n has posted a tour de force of autistic social ‘scientific’ analysis explaining how all you ‘conservatives’ are also ‘Republicans,’ due to your shared genetic failures.

If you want to understand why ‘not even wrong’ is just so much worse than just soooo wrong, enjoy.

http://johnquiggin.com/2012/03/30/republican-conservatism-an-infantile-disorder/

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:00 pm
If Zimmerman was injured let him show everyone his medical records.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 10:01 pm
Careful, Candy.

The pashtuns might be after you.

Remember the only Pashtun poem anyone knows:

There’s a boy across the river with a bottom like a peach; but,alas, I cannot swim

And Abu Nawas… let’s just not go there.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 10:02 pm
candy

That’s the way!

Peter Patton

2 Apr 12 at 10:02 pm
Maxie the NSDAP Squealboi

Sod off swampy.

Now he’s trying on the old ‘The national Socialist German Worker’s party were capitalists schtick.”

Poor, poor little scumbag does not realise that we already know they were socialists.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 10:06 pm
Tom Hanks shows that not all Lefties don’t know how to have that offensive “S” word.

You have to admire the man for having the ticker to apologise.

Token

2 Apr 12 at 10:10 pm
Wodger understands at least people really don’t like him much.

Within my circle of acquaintences I have been accused of being inconsistent and disloyal for dumping the Libs and the feeling is pretty strong. My argument is that if you can’t change your mind then what’s the point of having recurring elections?

There has been some heated exchanges and much of it illogical which makes me think that fear is behind a lot of the beliefs.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
If Zimmerman did play Wannabe G-Man and pursue Trayvon, and that’s what precipitated the fight, then that was pretty stupid on his part. Probably not illegal (and nothing, by the way, to do with Florida’s Castle Doctrine or Stand Your Ground laws) but still stupid.

I hate that all the lies and fake “narratives” being propagated by the the media and the left in general pretty much box me into a corner where I find myself defending someone who sounds like a bit of a jerk and who I probably wouldn’t have much time for in real life.

Honestly, neither one of the actors in this drama (which would have gone unremarked-upon had it been black-on-black or hispanic-on-hispanic) are especially sympathetic or likeable creatures. But it horrifies me the way the race-baiters and their media enablers are so far getting away will telling so many blatant untruths in advancement of the narrative they decided to push.

They can’t be allowed to get away with this shit anymore – people are seriously going to end up dead over this if someone doesn’t step in and calm things down a little. As I pointed out on Twitter last month, “If only America had a Nobel Peace Laureate out there somewhere to calm situations like this down…”

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 10:21 pm
If Zimmerman was injured let him show everyone his medical records.

Fine, Bob, but where are the carbon bricks, you moron. Where are they?

JC

2 Apr 12 at 10:21 pm
Mmmmm

Carbon bricks…..

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 10:26 pm
Just the latest narrative to bite the dust:

“Zimmerman, who outweighed Martin by more than 100 pounds…”

O RLY?

And can I just add that the fact that numpties like Our Candy accept as #TrueFact in this case the blatherings of anonymous commenters to Andrew Bolt’s Melbourne-based weblog is seriously sad.

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 10:26 pm
And how ’bout them biometric voice analysis experts, hey?

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 10:34 pm
I’m curious about the blood drug tests. They seem to be taking a very long time.
Why would that be?

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 10:41 pm
Max, SoB, you’re being very quiet?
You come back here and explain the entrails wrapped around your ankles…

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 10:43 pm
You come back here and explain the entrails wrapped around your ankles…

What are you fantasising about? I was watching James May’s Man Lab, and very interesting it was tonight too.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 10:46 pm
The blindly cheerleading #TeamTrayvon! #JusticeForTrayvon! supporters would have to be among the stupidest people out there. Sharp as a bag of wet mice, that lot.

Seriously, they’ll swallow anything.

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 10:50 pm
So Zimmerman never received any medical attention on the night?

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
Well said, Spot (10:21 pm).

Exactly my thoughts.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
SOd off swampy.

And produce the carbon bricks

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 11:03 pm
Racial killing by someone injured in the course of mere self-defense and yet no medical records produced nor any evidence of a medical attendance???

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
“The Left has been surprised gleefully tossing around the entrails of the shooting before they could dart off to the next cause du jour.”

From my 9.55 post SoB, as you know damned well…

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
But it horrifies me the way the race-baiters and their media enablers are so far getting away will telling so many blatant untruths in advancement of the narrative they decided to push.

CL’s ethical response to this is: make up your own narrative from whatever scant evidence you can exaggerate: hence Trayvon was a drug dealer and burglar.

And also: let’s pretend Obama was the one who inflamed this, when he answered a journalist question and said he welcomed the investigations and encouraged Americans to take it seriously, and made a empathetic comment regarding the parents.

Anyway, earlier today I mentioned polling for young women in swing States going strongly to Obama.

With Right wingnuts making ugly and unreasonable attacks on both Obama and the character of the dead unarmed black guy, let’s see how polling goes with blacks for the Republicans…

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
Are you high, Steve?

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:06 pm
I’ll take your change of narrative as a victory, SoB.

Winston Smith

2 Apr 12 at 11:07 pm
Gab – what’s this ‘hugs and kisses’ over at bunyips place?

Sinclair Davidson

2 Apr 12 at 11:11 pm
let’s see how polling goes with blacks for the Republicans…

Breaking news: “In a shock swing, 96% of blacks now vote Democrat up from last elections peak of 95.5%.”

Infidel Tiger

2 Apr 12 at 11:11 pm
That’s on a need to know basis only, Doomlord.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Racial killing by someone injured in the course of mere self-defense and yet no medical records produced nor any evidence of a medical attendance???

Proof there are no records, bob, you dickhead?

It was reported Zimmerman went to hospital by the police.

you fat useless slobb, bob.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:16 pm
BTW, Bunyip’s post on Manne now has Windschuttle commenting. It’s a very interesting thread.

http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/robert-manne-writes.html#comment-form

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
Steve is the only Concerned Conservative Catholic I know who fantasizes about “daggering” with Bazza. As such, I consider his opinions in that light.

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
JC, Maxed out Bob is just writing crap to get attention. Or he is as stupid as his comments suggest. Or both.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:19 pm
The first officer to arrive was Timothy Smith. His contemporaneous report states that “Zimmerman stated that he had shot the subject, and he was still armed…. Located on the inside of Zimmerman’s waist band, I removed a black Kel Tek 9mm PF9 semiauto handgun and holster. While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground.

“Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head.”

Why would the first officer on the scene, before any of this was a “thing,” lie?

sdog

2 Apr 12 at 11:23 pm
I’m curious about the blood drug tests. They seem to be taking a very long time.
Why would that be?

Oh please, we all know that Breitbart was full of coke when he died. The man was a notorious coke fiend – a degenerate druggie like fatso Limbaugh.

The blood tests are a mere formality, but like you I wonder why they are taking so long.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Why would the first officer on the scene, before any of this was a “thing,” lie?

The racist officer was calling Zimmerman a “wetback”.

Infidel Tiger

2 Apr 12 at 11:25 pm
CL’s ethical response to this is: make up your own narrative from whatever scant evidence you can exaggerate: hence Trayvon was a drug dealer and burglar.

Not made up and not scant. We have official reports that Trayvon™ was suspended from school after being found with a marijuana bag, a bag filled with women’s jewellery (which he said he was holding for someone – LOL) and a screw-driver. He was searched after he was apprehended vandalising his high school with four letter words. ‘No_Limit_Nigga’ – as the gold-toothed gang member called himself – was also reportedly involved in the bashing of a bus driver (Miami Herald).

You always know when the official lefty narrative is falling apart. Their organs – like NBC, CBS and the New York Times – start lying; then their lies get exposed and the whole concocted panic falls apart. They always walk away – as they have from their formerly beloved Occupy rape and murder movement. Which, by the way, was fully endorsed by Barack Hussein.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 11:25 pm
Not made up and not scant. We have official reports that Trayvon™ was suspended from school after being found with a marijuana bag, a bag filled with women’s jewellery (which he said he was holding for someone – LOL) and a screw-driver. He was searched after he was apprehended vandalising his high school with four letter words. ‘No_Limit_Nigga’ – as the gold-toothed gang member called himself – was also reportedly involved in the bashing of a bus driver (Miami Herald).

You always know when the official lefty narrative is falling apart. Their organs – like NBC, CBS and the New York Times – start lying; then their lies get exposed and the whole concocted panic falls apart. They always walk away – as they have from their formerly beloved Occupy rape and murder movement. Which, by the way, was fully endorsed by Barack Hussein.

So many lies.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 11:26 pm
Oh please, we all know that Breitbart was full of coke when he died. The man was a notorious coke fiend – a degenerate druggie like fatso Limbaugh.

So what? Why is this such a problem to you.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:31 pm
Zimmerman was following Martin because of his behaviour.

Where Martin’s behaviour consisted of being a black youth walking home from the store at halftime in a ball game.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 11:32 pm
Why would the first officer on the scene, before any of this was a “thing,” lie?

Duu-uuh.

Because US police officers are notorious for siding with armed Hispanics late at night, that’s why.

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
So what? Why is this such a problem to you.

Don’t worry JC. I understand the rules.

When a white right winger does drugs, it’s an example of a free spirit expressing itself against the nanny state.

When a black man does drugs, it’s a sign he’s a gangbanger.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
Winston: I took your 9.55 comment as a simple, dumb comment not requiring a response.

You are completely ill informed if you think climate scientists, or scientists more generally, are undergoing any crisis of confidence that global warming is happening, is likely to be overall harmful, and belief is bolstering that it is in fact already contributing to extreme weather.

The latest example: an extraordinary number of March warm weather records set through much of the US.

La nina appears to have finally gone from the Pacific too, so expect temperatures to increase this year.

steve from brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
Les

A couple of things…

You seem to delve into what actually happened this evening when we still don’t know the full story. Martin could have actually been defending himself from what he thought may have been an attack. We simply don’t know.

The fact is that the race hucksters have decided to get in on the act, including the US president. He’s nothing but a race huckster and has been found out.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:37 pm
Sydney Uniting Church minister Bill Crews, the Baptist minister Mike Hercock, the Metropolitan Community Church pastor Karl Hand and the Outreach Ministries church fellowship senior pastor Shane Anderson.

What an embarrassing bunch of “faith leaders.”

Just a bunch of local pastors; AFAIK they don’t even need a degree.

wreckage

2 Apr 12 at 11:38 pm
Don’t worry JC. I understand the rules.

When a white right winger does drugs, it’s an example of a free spirit expressing itself against the nanny state.

When a black man does drugs, it’s a sign he’s a gangbanger.

I still don’t understand why you think a person doing recreational drugs is a huge issue and how you can somehow morph that into a comparison with a black gangbanger.

I can’t ever recall making any comments about different racial groups using drugs.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:40 pm
JC, fuck off.

I have been much less hasty than others to pass judgment. I have said I don’t know what happened.

But it is a fact that Zimmerman had a habit of calling in crap to the cops, that he was driving around with a gat for no good reason, he disregarded an express instruction from the cops and left his car to chase Martin, and he ended up shooting Martin dead.

Yet he hasn’t been charged.

Most I have said is that this seems to be a very strange state of affairs.

But hey prosecutions are hard.

I thought that Alabama scuba diver murdered his wife for sure. But he only got a low level manslaughter. So who knows.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 11:41 pm
I still don’t understand why you think a person doing recreational drugs is a huge issue and how you can somehow morph that into a comparison with a black gangbanger.

I don’t think it’s a big deal.

CL is the one who said Martin was a drug dealer and a gangster.

Rabz is the one who complained that the blacks “ruined it for him” in the US.

Les Majesty

2 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
When a black man does drugs, it’s a sign he’s a gangbanger.

Is this the sort of stuff you post over at your favourite white power site?

You know, that one you were busy linking to the other week while showering this place in foaming spittle while you embarrassed yourself claiming some bizarre “fake” conspiracy over the dead kids photo?

After that unhinged display you should leave this subject alone for ever more.

twostix

2 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
Les the racistkiddie:

When a black man does drugs, it’s a sign he’s a gangbanger.

Again, I rest my case. This guy is hyper-racist.

It’s always racism with you, isn’t it Les? Don’t be such a racist dirtbag. Not every drug using black man is a gansta.

Preshizzle (Paco ™) Odumbugger did plenty of coke, he’s black, and he’s not a gangbanger.

Bill Cosby used, he’s not a gangbanger. Every Highlander I have ever met in PNG does betelnut. Not a gangsta among them (raskols yes, a few, but no gangbangers).

FFS you racist swine, stop it with your endless racial vilification of black people.

Mk50 of Brisbane

2 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
No, I’m not fucking off Lester.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:49 pm
“I was watching James May’s Man Lab, and very interesting it was tonight too.”

A great show. May in his element.

Jarrah

2 Apr 12 at 11:49 pm
Combet says the carbon tax isn’t a tax, according to Lateline reporting.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:51 pm
OMG… More Lateline.
The lying slapper shown in Queensland walking up looking and smiling at a bunch of bananas. No fucking kidding.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:53 pm
So many lies.

So many clown noses.

Not made up and not scant. We have official reports that Trayvon™ was suspended from school after being found with a marijuana bag, a bag filled with women’s jewellery (which he said he was holding for someone – LOL) and a screw-driver. He was searched after he was apprehended vandalising his high school with four letter words. ‘No_Limit_Nigga’ – as the gold-toothed gang member called himself – was also reportedly involved in the bashing of a bus driver (Miami Herald).

You always know when the official lefty narrative is falling apart. Their organs – like NBC, CBS and the New York Times – start lying; then their lies get exposed and the whole concocted panic falls apart. They always walk away – as they have from their formerly beloved Occupy rape and murder movement. Which, by the way, was fully endorsed by Barack Hussein.

All true.

—————————————

It’s worth remembering that Pardongate criminal and Fast & Furious accessory to mass murder, Eric Holder, decided against bring voter intimidation charges against the Black Panthers – who were accused of wielding billy clubs at voting stations in 2008.

Not enough evidence, said the ‘Attorney-General.’

C.L.

2 Apr 12 at 11:53 pm
Gillard said back in July it was a tax. Combet’s off his tree.

Gab

2 Apr 12 at 11:53 pm
and the Mad Monk had the same problem

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 11:55 pm
“I was watching James May’s Man Lab, and very interesting it was tonight too.”

You must have been as baffled as a monkey trying to read Shakespeare.

Infidel Tiger

2 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
The Lying Slapper is getting back in touch with Queensland by looking at bananas.

I reckon I’ve seen it all now.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:57 pm
If there is no publicly available report verifying his injuries, then Zimmerman must be assumed to be injury free from the incident until such documents are produced.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 11:58 pm
Abbott should visit queensland and meet up all his liberal party mates on the government payroll.

Max Scream

2 Apr 12 at 11:59 pm
FFS bob, will you please go to fucking bed. Enough.

JC

2 Apr 12 at 11:59 pm
JC – stonefish’d be more her style.

Except they’re kinda pretty compared to Juliar, with more attractive personalities (and smaller backsides)

Mk50 of Brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
Sod off swampy.

You’ve been at the bongwater again.

Mk50 of Brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 12:01 am
We value our bananas very highly in Queensland, JC, and appreciate a woman having a close inspection of them.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 12:01 am
I’m on the drugs that killed River Breitbart.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
But it is a fact that Zimmerman had a habit of calling in crap to the cops, that he was driving around with a gat for no good reason, he disregarded an express instruction from the cops and left his car to chase Martin, and he ended up shooting Martin dead.

Hasn’t this account of events been contradicted by witness statements? For instance, a witness report suggests that in fact Zimmerman was not chasing Martin when confronted, but rather had lost contact with Martin. This was partly corroborated by Zimmerman’s phone conversation with police. The witness then reported seeing Zimmerman approached by Martin and king-hit, and then wrestled on the ground. Whether this is in fact what happened will have to be determined but by why is the disputed report that Les repeats continually reported as if it were a fact? Much of it appears to be nothing more than a concoction of the media.

dover_beach

3 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
I’m on the drugs that killed River Breitbart.

Whatever. Just get to fucking bed.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:04 am
JC:

The lying slapper shown in Queensland walking up looking and smiling at a bunch of bananas. No fucking kidding.

Could be worse.

Imagine the horror if she was smiling at cucumbers.

Mk50 of Brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 12:04 am
Amen to Mark L re “max”.

Sod off swampy. Old, old, old. boring. etc…….

Pedro the Ignorant

3 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
This was partly corroborated by Zimmerman’s phone conversation with police. The witness then reported seeing Zimmerman approached by Martin and king-hit, and then wrestled on the ground.

Dover, that could also be a case of Martin thinking someone up to no good was after him too.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
I’m on the drugs that killed River Breitbart

It’s a damn shame you aren’t on the drugs recommended by your psychiatrist.

Infidel Tiger

3 Apr 12 at 12:06 am
When a black man does drugs, it’s a sign he’s a gangbanger.

Is this the sort of stuff you post over at your favourite white power site?

You know, that one you were busy linking to the other week while showering this place in foaming spittle while you embarrassed yourself claiming some bizarre “fake” conspiracy over the dead kids photo?

After that unhinged display you should leave this subject alone for ever more

He won’t TwoStix.

These white supremacist/Stormfront types never can. He’ll be back with more racist garbage, yet more race-baiting dogwhistles.

At least he’s proven here what he really is.

Mk50 of Brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
CL is the one who said Martin was a drug dealer and a gangster.

Rabz is the one who complained that the blacks “ruined it for him” in the US.

Les is the one who said the mass rapes orchestrated by the Russian army were funny and that incinerating Japanese women and children was morally fantastic.

I’m sure he’ll respond with the clown nose on.

————————————————

Reports of suspensions paint more complicated picture of Trayvon Martin.

SANFORD — Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin was suspended from school in October in an incident in which he was found in possession of women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that a schools security staffer described as a “burglary tool,” The Miami Herald has learned.

Trayvon, who claimed that an unnamed friend had given him the jewelry, was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald…

According to the report, on Oct. 21 staffers monitoring a security camera at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School spotted Trayvon and two other students writing “W.T.F.,” an acronym for “What the f—,” on a hallway locker, according to schools police. The security employee, who knew Trayvon, confronted the teen and looked through his bag for the graffiti marker.

Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.

“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.

School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.

“Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.

That suspension was followed four months later by another one, in February, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it, the boy’s family’s attorney has confirmed. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a “marijuana pipe.”

He also had gold teeth (formerly denied by wrongologist and quote doctoring supremo, Mr Snip* – aka Les) and went by the homie handle, ‘No_Limit_Nigga.’

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
Oh Iq49 has woken up from his evening nap.

49, would it be too much to ask that you apologise for lying about not using the word “Paleosimian” as a slur against Palestinans?

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
So what drugs are you righties on to keep you up all night in this frenzied defense of the black-killer???

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
Lol. Iq49 and twoshits are tag-teaming, in flagrant violation of Retardo Liberal’s “no dumbarses” rule.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:11 am
Where Martin’s behaviour consisted of being a black youth walking home from the store at halftime in a ball game.

If you believe that one, that he just ran up to the local 7-11 during half-time for tea & skittles for his 13-year-old bro, what is your explanation for the fact that no-one in that household even noticed that he was missing until the next day when they were contacted by police?

If I were staying at my sister’s, and I were a stranger to the neighborhood and unfamiliar with the area, and we were all watching the game together and I left during halftime to go get my 12-year-old nephew some skittles & iced tea and hadn’t returned an hour later… and during that time there were sounds of a fight, someone shrieking for help, and gunshots, and an almighty police presence right down the road… and no-one even twigged, “Hey, where’s Spotty?”

Come on. Think about this alleged scenario…

So much about this doesn’t make sense, mate. And the media has already been pinged in their lies several times over.

I’ve already stated that I don’t find Zimmerman an especially sympathetic or appealing person, but that doesn’t mean that no-one is allowed to question #TeamTrayvon’s stories. Don’t abandon common sense just so you can score cheap shots off the Hispanic Democrat. You will probably end up regretting that.

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 12:12 am
Helpful jewellery minder Trayvon also seems to have bashed a bus driver and boasted about it online:

Meanwhile, the difference between the typical teenager Martin’s family and supporters say he was and the way he presented himself on social media is the subject of increasing debate.

As Dan Linehan, a blogger at Wagist.com, pointed out, correspondence with Martin on Twitter before he died alludes to an incident with a bus driver. “Yu ain’t tell me you swung on a bus driver,” Martin’s cousin wrote to him on Feb. 21.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 12:14 am
Another black killing in California:

A new case of police shooting an unarmed black teenager is underway in Pasadena, California, sparking anger while controversy over the similar killing of Trayvon Martin in Florida still persists.

While Martin was shot dead by a neighborhood watch captain who claimed he was attacked by the teenager, the California case seems to be even more egregious as police shot dead a teenager after receiving erroneous information from a 911 call.

On March 24, 26-year old Oscar Carillo called the police to report that he had just been robbed at gunpoint. The two perpetrators of the crime were said to have taken a laptop and a backpack from Carillo’s car.

Carillo told the dispatcher that both robbers were armed. Shortly afterwards, two police officers reached the two men. One of them opened fire at Kendrec McDade, a 19-year year-old Citrus College student, who started running away when he saw the police car. McDade was said to have moved his hand towards his waistband, which provoked the police officer to shoot; the other officer then also opened fire. The emergency siren was not turned on during the shooting.

McDade was then taken to the Huntington Memorial Hospital where he died from multiple gunshot wounds.

McDade’s supposed accomplice, a 17-year old teenager, was also detained.

It turned out that both teenagers were, in fact, unarmed. Under public pressure to investigate the matter, police called Carillo in for questioning. He admitted that he lied about the fact that McDade and his accomplice were armed in order to get the police to respond more promptly. He was then booked into the city jail on suspicion of involuntary manslaughter, and was being held on a bail of $25,000. Police say his account of the crime, in which he said both men were armed with guns, could have influenced the mindset of the officers sent to arrest the suspects.

McDade was a stand-out football player for the Azusa High School Aztecs and had a room full of trophies. McDade’s 17-year old accomplice had a criminal record of burglary, grand theft and failing to register as a gang member. Police say the accomplice broke into Carillo’s car, while McDade acted as a lookout.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 12:16 am
A quite detailed piecing together of what happened that night is to be found at this report. Appears quite balanced and cautious.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
Maybe news to some of the trolls here, but in Florida, as in many places in the US, it is perfectly legal to “drive around with a gat”, provided you are a licensed CCW permit holder. No reason required other than “I feel like it”.

Police cannot give you “express instructions” about anything you are legally entitled to do, and unlike the Statist countries you clowns seem to love so much, the US police are not your masters, they are the people’s servants.

Obviously some of the clowns/trolls commenting on this case have never set foot outside Fitzroy, Balmain, or in SoB’s case, the Pinkenbah sewerage farm.

Get a grip, FFS.

Pedro the Ignorant

3 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
are you two leftoids busy training for your personal statement 50m dash?

Irving J

3 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
Maybe news to some of the trolls here, but in Florida, as in many places in the US, it is perfectly legal to “drive around with a gat”, provided you are a licensed CCW permit holder. No reason required other than “I feel like it”.

yes, and CCW laws are fucking retarded. Zimmerman driving around with a gat was being a fuckwit.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:23 am
Another black killing in California:

Max the chicken sexer genius is surprised to see another blackman being killed. Unbeknownst to the foul fingerer, 94% OF BLACKS ARE MURDERED BY…WAIT FOR IT….OTHER BLACKS.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 12:25 am
I’m on the drugs that killed River Breitbart.

Then we all live in hope.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 12:28 am
I think they get that, Pedro, but they don’t like it.

For some reason it makes a lot of Australians uncomfortable that Americans in states like Florida are actually allowed to defend themselves and their property, rather than simply lying back and letting criminals have their merry way and then waiting for the police to come in after and pick up the pieces and murmur soothing words.

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 12:29 am
If Zimmerman stayed on his own property to defend it he wouldn’t have gotten the chance to kill anyone.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 12:31 am
yes, and CCW laws are fucking retarded. Zimmerman driving around with a gat was being a fuckwit.

The Florida Legislature approved the CCW laws (and the “stand your ground” clauses, even though they are not relevant in the Martin shooting case) by a majority of votes, and hundreds of thousands of Florida residents are CCW holders and most regularly carry a gun, as they are perfectly entitled to do.

Les thinks they are all “fuckwits”, the poor subservient peasant.

Pedro the Ignorant

3 Apr 12 at 12:31 am
A quite detailed piecing together of what happened that night is to be found at this report. Appears quite balanced and cautious.

So on balance it appears both were confused, however Martin was clearly wrong in attacking Zimmerman by attacking him when his back was turned. Zimmerman was not a potential threat to Martin when he turned his back.

It then becomes a question of self defense.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:34 am
For some reason it makes a lot of Australians uncomfortable that Americans in states like Florida are actually allowed to defend themselves and their property,

Actually, it makes a lot of Americans uncomfortable that halfwits like Zimmerman can drive around with 9mms shooting people for no reason and not get charged with a thing.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:34 am
Would you please stop using the word ‘quite’. It is such a limp wristed, conviction-less word. It makes you sound like a wimp, which I think you are, and that’s my biggest insult unless you want to to come back. Then we can fight like real men, you twerp..

Lazlo

3 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
If Zimmerman stayed on his own property to defend it he wouldn’t have gotten the chance to kill anyone.

And Bob, if you fucked off to bed or your own blog you wouldn’t be trolling and annoying the shit out of people here with worthless commentary.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
CCW laws are fucking retarded.

Do most young black males get shot in precincts with liberal CCW laws or in precincts with “tough” “gun-control” laws?

#NarrativeFAIL

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
however Martin was clearly wrong in attacking Zimmerman by attacking him when his back was turned. Zimmerman was not a potential threat to Martin when he turned his back.

Oh please, JC. Stop dazzling these lefty nutjobs with logic..

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
however Martin was clearly wrong in attacking Zimmerman by attacking him when his back was turned. Zimmerman was not a potential threat to Martin when he turned his back.

JC, you are speculating here. You have no way of knowing Martin attacked Zimmerman.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
Zimmerman driving around with a gat was being a fuckwit.

Armed men guarded Media Matters boss as he took $400,000 gun control donation.

Media Matters also works with the White House to build various orchestrated panics and distractions.

So it seems white lefty men can carry guns but not dark men like George Zimmerman.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 12:37 am
Self-proclaimed self-defense by state-appointed vigilante with gun.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 12:39 am
CL, Retardo has told you to stop being a fuckwit and using the tu quoque. It’s a logical fallacy and makes you look like a douche.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:41 am
You have no way of knowing Martin attacked Zimmerman.

1. Injuries sustained by Z as reported by the ambo
2. His back was wet and had evidence of grass stain.
3. Witness reported seeing M on top of Z.
4. The only injury sustained by M was a bullet hole. No other marks on his body as reported by the coroner.

Perhaps Z attacked himself while rolling around on the grass.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 12:41 am
Actually, it makes a lot of Americans uncomfortable…

It doesn’t actually.

If it makes you uncomfortable, restrict your walking aimlessly around on rainy nights in strange neighborhoods to safe Democrat-controlled gun-free zones like Chicago, Detroit and Washington DC.

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 12:41 am
This is getting dull. Can we change the subject?

If you want to get worked up, then how about The USA betraying the confidence of their Israeli ‘allies’ re a strike via Azerbaerzhan?

Lazlo

3 Apr 12 at 12:43 am
The graphs are in: Earth Hour a total failure.

Nobody cares.

The graphs that Fairfax will not run.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 12:43 am
Israeli betrayal of the us alliance would be more accurate.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 12:46 am
JC, you are speculating here. You have no way of knowing Martin attacked Zimmerman.

Stepford’s link suggests that’s what happened. I also saw the ABC’s This week vid where that factoid wasn’t challenged.

There was also witness evidence that Martin was on top on Zimmerman bashing into him.

Look, i really don’t care about the actual events because we’ll never know what happened, although I think they both fucked up.

My problem is with the huckstering.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:46 am
Any numbers that the WWF come up with on The Hour of Power are completely false.

Lazlo

3 Apr 12 at 12:46 am
None of that proves that it was M who attacked Z.

The fact that Z left his car with a handgun to pursue M suggests Z might have attacked M.

But unlike you and the rest, Gab, I don’t presume to know exactly what happened.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:48 am
Israeli betrayal of the us alliance would be more accurate.

How does that work?

Lazlo

3 Apr 12 at 12:49 am
The fact that Z left his car with a handgun to pursue M suggests Z might have attacked M.

Why would he bother to physically attack him when he had a gun and the cops were showing up? It doesn’t make any sense. All he had to do was point the gun at M, tell him to freeze and wait until the cops arrived.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:51 am
The graphs are in: Earth Hour a total failure.

And the carbon tax should be of much greater immediate concern to the average Aussie than whinging that they don’t like Florida gun laws that even the Democrats in the Florida State Senate voted in favor of unanimously.

Go figure.

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 12:51 am
None of that proves that it was M who attacked Z.

No, of course not. Like I said, Z rolled on the grass and attacked himself. And the witness(es) are lying as is the ambo, and the camera footage.

I don’t presume to know exactly what happened.

Yet you speak as if you do.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 12:52 am
Or are you just a brainless leftie automaton? Just asking..

Lazlo

3 Apr 12 at 12:53 am
Gab, killers occasionally fake injury to make it look like they were attacked. It has happened, you know.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 12:54 am
Oh, I see, the lefty revisionist history begins. Keep grasping at straws, Les. I prefer to wait and see what other evidence eventuates before condemning either.

So far though, the evidence supports Z’s account of the incident.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 12:57 am
Gab, killers occasionally fake injury to make it look like they were attacked. It has happened, you know.

But that’s not the likely path this took. The most likely event is that Z was being an overzealous idiot instead of a calm one and M thought the worst of Z’s intentions and attacked him.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 12:58 am
But unlike you and the rest, Gab, I don’t presume to know exactly what happened.

Of course you don’t. You are just trying to muddy the water and reinforce your preconceptions by calling Zimmerman a “fuckwit”, deriding the Florida CCW laws as “retarded” and believing that citizens going about their lawful business are required to obey some sort of telephone “instructions’.

You have no more idea of what happened in that shooting than Elmer Fudd, but you are convinced that it is a racist hate crime, a modern lynching, and will bleat until the cows come home that Zimmerman is guilty.

I hope you never serve on a jury, you blind bigoted fool.

Pedro the Ignorant

3 Apr 12 at 1:00 am
CL, Retardo has told you to stop being a fuckwit and using the tu quoque…

You wouldn’t know a tu quoque from a coq au vin, Les. It took you a year to back off your claim that the BAIPA was an “illegal statute.” You are to lawyerly discourse what Steve is to airline disaster analysis.

I notice you still haven’t apologised, by the way, for your hilarious denialism re the gold teeth of jewellery minder and reputed bus vigilante, No_Limit_Nigga.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:01 am
The skyline in Regina was a little dimmer during Earth Hour on Saturday.

The bright idea resulted in power use decreasing in about five per cent in the city, said Shawn Silver.

In Saskatoon, power consumption increased about five per cent while across the province, lights continued to glow as electrical consumption climbed 10 per cent, said Silver.

http://www.ckom.com/story/regina-turns-during-earth-hour/50516

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:01 am
The short of it is, Martin was a gangster and a burglar who had been suspended from school for lengthy periods. He was shot after he king hit Zimmerman. This is within the law of Florida, so it’s alright. That’s all you need to know about the affair.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:05 am
Oh, and I forgot to say, the President of the United States reflexively sided with the black thug, because he is also black, while having nothing to say about the much more numerous black-on-everyone-else violence that usually occurs.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:07 am
You have no more idea of what happened in that shooting than Elmer Fudd, but you are convinced that it is a racist hate crime, a modern lynching, and will bleat until the cows come home that Zimmerman is guilty.

Your reading comprehension ability is non-existent. I have never said any such thing.

Fuck off and stop being such an idiot.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:07 am
But unlike you and the rest, Gab, I don’t presume to know exactly what happened.

LOL. Les insisted for months that the Haditha 8 were “war criminals.”

By June 17, 2008, six defendants had had their cases dropped and a seventh found not guilty. The exception was former Staff Sgt Frank Wuterich. On October 3, 2007, the Article 32 hearing investigating officer recommended that Wuterich be tried for negligent homicide in the deaths of two women and five children, and that charges of murder be dropped. Further charges of assault and manslaughter were ultimately dropped, and Wuterich was convicted of a single count of negligent dereliction of duty on January 24, 2012.

Good call, Les.

Zero were guilty of war crimes or even homicide.

But that was back when Bushitler was in office and lefties like you hated the troops.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:08 am
According to data from Enmax, there was no noticeable change in electricity intake in Calgary between 8:30 and 9:30 p.m., when the World Wildlife Fund asked people around the world to turn off the lights for an hour.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/Calgary+shows+change+energy+usage+during+Earth+Hour/6393167/story.html#ixzz1qtMz9jff

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:08 am
I notice you still haven’t apologised, by the way, for your hilarious denialism re the gold teeth of jewellery minder and reputed bus vigilante, No_Limit_Nigga.

Oh yes, Les still hasn’t apologised for his Stormfront beclowning.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
Maybe she should be the candidate.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74718.html

JC

3 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
Seriously, Anne Romney shoulda been the candidate. She’s really good in the short vid to the link.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 1:11 am
The left does hypocrisy well.

Richardson was born William Blaine Richardson III. He attended prep school at Middlesex, known for educating the WASP elite in New England. His paternal grandfather was a WASP, and his paternal grandmother is Mexican. His maternal grandfather is from Northern Spain, and his maternal grandmother is Mexican. If anyone is a “white Hispanic,” it is William Blaine Richardson III.
While occasional media profiles of Richardson mention his background, he is always described as Hispanic or Latino. They never question whether he is really Hispanic or explain how “complicated” classifying Latinos is, much less describe him as a “white Hispanic.”

It is worth contrasting the media’s treatment of Richardson’s ethnicity with their treatment Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman, whose father is white and mother is Peruvian.

The media almost initially called Zimmerman white, and it fit into their narrative of white racism holding down Hispanics. However, after Zimmerman’s father sent a letter to the Orlando Sentinel (and major conservative news sites like Breitbart.com and Drudge Report linked to the letter), they stopped referring to Zimmerman as white. The New York Times and Reuters began referring to him as a “white Hispanic.”

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:16 am
…..…this frenzied defense of the black-killer???

No, you lying hound, you never mentioned anything like hate crime, did you.

Pedro the Ignorant

3 Apr 12 at 1:16 am
Gillard government forced to compensate Sky after wilfully corrupting tender process to favour the ABC:

Taxpayers foot $2m bill to Sky News for Australia Network TV tender bungle.

No, News Ltd, it wasn’t a “bungle.”

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:17 am
A “white hispanic” is simply a person with some Iberian heritage who allegedly does something wrong. If Zimmerman had won an Olympic medal, he’d be plain old hispanic all the way.

This is yet another reason why Leftism should be banned for a certain period of time. Any tendency that is systematically dishonest in this fashion needs some time out.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:20 am
No, you lying hound, you never mentioned anything like hate crime, did you.

you stupid twat. You are using someone else’s words against me.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:22 am
Richardson, the nation’s only “white” Hispanic governor.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/02/bill-richardson-and-george-zimmermanthe-nyt-and-white-hispanics/

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:22 am
Pedro and the Currency Lad are just flagrantly lying about what I said.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:23 am
Re hate crimes, I agree with what bill Keller said in today’s new York times.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
Kotok’s right. so, so right.

“The latest note from Cumberland Advisors’ David Kotok is pretty heavy. In it he demonstrates that current market conditions couldn’t be further from any sort of normalcy, new or old.

Rather, a complete “idea shift” has occurred:

“The old idea was that the official sector would intervene, rebalance the system, and then exit. The old idea was to get the private sector back in the game quickly. The old idea was to recover the official money and then let the market resume its functions of pricing and clearing and providing capital.

“The old idea is dead.”

The new idea involves an intrusive market role for the “official sector” — governments, intergovernmental organizations, supranational organizations. Think ECB, IMF — even GSEs, which Kotok notes are single-handedly supporting housing finance (although as we pointed out last week, it’s technically Treasury that’s fulfilling this role).

“The new idea is to crush the private sector and to keep the official sector in the game for a prolonged period,” he writes.

Under the “old idea” regime, such intervention would likely have resulted in inflation and weak currency. Kotok says these may yet come to pass — “but it will take a while.“ because ”officialdom” will remain in the market for an indefinite period of time….”

http://www.businessinsider.com/kotok-crush-private-sector-2012-4

JC

3 Apr 12 at 1:27 am
If Obama had six sons, they would look just like the gang of criminals who called a white man a “honkey” and kicked him in the head repeatedly.

“Upon exiting the restaurant he was jumped by a mob of individuals, and severely beaten about the head and torso,” said John Covington, the Seneca police chief. “The report was that racial slurs were being used toward the victim.”

The man told police that he didn’t know what happened, didn’t remember coming to the restaurant and didn’t know why he was attacked, according to the report.

We spoke with the man, who, almost a week later, has two black eyes and a swollen face. He told us he was leaving the restaurant when a group of black men near the door called him a “tree honkey.” He said he had never heard that, but it “tickled” him, so he turned to ask them what it meant. He said that is when one man hit him, and another hit him in the head with a stun gun; he fell, and others began kicking him in the head.

The Left have objectively incited this appalling act of racist violence.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:28 am
Republicans already bailing, says Gallup:

Voter Enthusiasm Waning, Especially Among Romney Supporters.

Forty-two percent of registered voters nationwide say they are “extremely” or “very enthusiastic” about voting for president in this year’s election. That is down significantly from 52% in January and 47% and 48% in December and October, respectively.

The decline is especially apparent among Romney voters, whose enthusiasm has fallen 13 percentage points from January, and now is on par with Obama voters’ enthusiasm. Prior to the latest poll, at least half of Romney voters were extremely or very enthusiastic about voting, and their enthusiasm exceeded that of Obama voters.

The decline in Romney voters’ enthusiasm mirrors the trend in enthusiasm among Republican registered voters more generally, which is down 12 points since January, 61% to 49%. Democratic registered voters’ enthusiasm has dropped a smaller seven points, 58% to 51%.

Looks they’ll be a no-show on election day.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:29 am
Pedro and the Currency Lad are just flagrantly lying about what I said.

Yet your statement would suggest otherwise, no?

Where Martin’s behaviour consisted of being a black youth walking home from the store at halftime in a ball game.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:30 am
If Obama had a son, he’d look just like Shawn Tyson.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:36 am
Latino Teen Suffers Head Wounds, Loses Teeth During Hate Crime Attack

The vicious encounter happened March 14 around 4pm near Cactus Middle School in Palmdale. The teen was approached by a group of up to 10 male black juveniles who challenged him to a fight, according to Deputy Robbie Royster of the L.A. County sheriff’s Palmdale station. L.A. Times obtained Royster’s written report of the attack.

The White House still hasn’t issued any statement about this appalling attack, presumably because they are fine with it.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 1:39 am
Pedro and the Currency Lad are just flagrantly lying about what I said.

Everyone’s a liar to Little Red Riding Hoodie.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:42 am
Actually, Les owes me at least two proven erroneous accusations he’s made against me. He’s made slurs against me that would easily land him in court if I knew his name. His transgressions are that serious; that libelous.

But I’m not holding my breath. He’s not a brave one, that much is clear. He makes mistakes, but then doesn’t own up to them.

What’s more amusing about this libel factory is that there’s no one who’s more likely to demand apologies for perceived transgressions than him. Poor little perpetually outraged guy. He is what he so despises.

Basically, Les – like Crap Stream – is a troll. And should be treated thusly.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 1:47 am
Obama also officially endorses Occupy – whose members have killed and raped dozens of people so far.

That’s before we even start to discuss Fast & Furious – the deliberate arming of narco-terrorists who have used their Obama guns to kill hundreds of people.

Obama is not merely the worst president ever. He is an appalling, amoral human being.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:48 am
96% of blacks victims were killed by blacks.
14% of white victims were killed by blacks.

Thems the facts. But no, one Hispanic shoots a black and the racists go into overdrive and make it a black/white issue.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:50 am
CL: too soon to call. That looks to me to be a symptom of primary fatigue. Republicans will get fired up again once the general election swings into action and Obama’s record starts facing even heavier scrutiny.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 1:50 am
Today in Islam:

Palestinian Youths Beat Jewish Groom With Cement Blocks During Visit to Mother’s Grave.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 1:53 am
Actually, Les owes me at least two proven erroneous accusations he’s made against me.

you suggested Steve was a kiddie fiddler. That was out of line. Sinc had to wipe your posts. You should be apologising.

He’s made slurs against me that would easily land him in court if I knew his name.

Let’s add “the law of defamation” to the list of things you know very little about.

here’s a hint dummy: an anonymous person cannot defame another anonymous person. Fuck you are stupid. Yet you call me a whinger – and here you are complaining about non-existent torts. Fuck off.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:54 am
Right wing racists have gone into overdrive around here about this issue, which is (im unhappy to say) an extremely trivial one and completely tabloid in nature.

It will be forgotten soon enough, but if it will probably mobilise black voters to vote for Obama so not a good issue for the right.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 1:54 am
BBC World was reporting that black Trayvon Martin was killed by white Zimmerman.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 1:55 am
you suggested Steve was a kiddie fiddler

No, you are lying. You even conceded otherwise. Shall I dig up your concession?

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 1:57 am
His transgressions are that serious; that libelous.

boo hoo hoo, you ignorant little cry baby.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:57 am
Jacobs said, “It is extraordinarily unscholarly, insensitive and hurtful for university professors to invite speakers who tell Jewish students in front of their classmates that Jews today act like Nazis. It is outrageous that somebody who denies Jews the right to self-determination and compares the Jewish state to Nazis is responsible for commemorating the Jewish genocide.”

“It is also very troubling,” he said, “that some Jewish faculty members are too intimidated to speak publicly about these issues, and that some Universities use ‘academic freedom’ to shield bigoted professors who defame the Jewish community.”

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/02/hijacking-the-holocaust-at-northeastern-university/

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 1:57 am
No I conceded nothing OCO. I graciously offered you a face saving backdown, which I now regret as you have shown yourself to be a two-faced lying cry-baby.

But please provide us with a detailed semantic analysis of the incident where you suggested Steve could not be trusted around children, you hysterical ninny.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 1:59 am
Bob Carr BA Hons, CWB declares the war on drugs a failure. Well, OK. But…

”An issue that worried me while I was in NSW politics was the police hitting railway stations with sniffer dogs. It was marijuana that was the focus.”

This was a victimless crime and he would have preferred police ”to do things like make public transport safe and clean up Cabramatta”, he said.

It “worried” him so much that he did nothing about it.

Also, the down-side of liberalisation:

Mr Cowdery, a long-time advocate of drug law reform, said the prohibition of drug use created social and health problems, as well as a ”proliferation of crime … and an increase in the corruption of law enforcement”.

He strongly favoured legalising, regulating, controlling and taxing all drugs.

So drug users would be mad to campaign for a change. Cheaper to maintain the status quo.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 2:00 am
No, Les, you were beclowned when you tried to claim that anyone who thought Martin had gold teeth was a Stormfront reader. The mundane truth, it turns out, is that Martin had gold teeth. You still haven’t apologised for that.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:01 am
Two apologies Les owes me:

1) accusing me of calling someone a KF erroneously (an error which he admits but refuses to apologise for)

2) for claiming that I am a Stormfront reader and a racist and that I responded to a doctored picture (all claims are untrue)

Seriously, Les. You really are a loose cannon, you know that? And that recent Stormfront stuff. Seriously. You felt it all hit a bit close to home, did it? That’s why you blew your stack?

Take a deep breath before posting next time, you hysterical hyperventilating bedwetter.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:02 am
I graciously offered you a face saving backdown, which I now regret as you have shown yourself to be a two-faced lying cry-baby.

bwahahahahaha pathetic lies, Les. You and I both know you’re lying, as well as others who also remember the exchange. So why the pretense? It’s not going to fly.

Just apologise and move on.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:06 am
For instance, a witness report suggests that in fact Zimmerman was not chasing Martin when confronted

This is not what witnesses claimed happened; this is what Zimmerman claimed happened. As far as I am aware there were no witnesses in the alley until after the scuffle broke out and people came to their windows to look. There is no way to know what happened, but Zimmerman told the story in the only possible way that would not be a confession to some form of homicide. The story really does seem unlikely though.

AJ

3 Apr 12 at 2:10 am
The only thing that matters is that Martin bashed the crap out of Zimmerman and was wasted in the process. That was a very silly thing to do. Don’t we usually hand out Darwin Awards to people who get killed doing silly things like trying to beat the crap out of someone who has a gun?

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:13 am
There’s no medical report that suggests Zimmer had the crap beaten out of him.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 2:15 am
Les claims above

I graciously offered you a face saving backdown

Here’s his “gracious” offer of a “face saving backdown” where he admits he was wrong:

Look, I guess I’ll take you at your word that you didn’t intend to make such allegations about Steve…So if you say I misjudged your intent, fair enough – I’m happy to accept that and move on.

You accepted you were wrong, but no apology. Now you’re lying about your previous admission of error. And, naturally, still no apology. Google’s a bitch, Les.

Pathetic.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:16 am
Here’s the URL of the thread in question if anyone feels the need to verify Les’s duplicity:

http://catallaxy files.com/2012/02/29/mid-week-forum-february-29-2012/

Delete the space between “catallaxy” and “files” to make the URL work…trying to defeat the spambot…

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:19 am
No, obviously there isn’t because he wasn’t taken to hospital. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t beaten. He almost certainly was.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:22 am
OCO, I was being gracious and polite. You had embarrassed yourself with your intemperate outburst – so much so that Sinclair had to wipe our comments and give ou a warning – and I was trying to let you save face.

I now realise that was a mistake, because you are continuing to be a lying douche.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 2:22 am
No doctor, no report then little evidence for his claims.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 2:24 am
Except of course for the witness, going by the name “John”, who DID see Martin bashing the crap out of Zimmerman.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:26 am
Keep grasping at straws, Les. It serves my purposes just fine.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:30 am
OCO, I was being gracious and polite

No, you condeded you were wrong.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:31 am
And yes, I am aware of the twitter picture – which does not prove that Martin had gold teeth or that he was an apprentice gang banger, as has been repeatedly asserted here on the basis of no evidence but in repetition of allegations first raised on Stormfront.

Yes, he does have gold teeth in those pictures, and no, the allegation of yours was that OCO could ONLY have got the meme from Stormfront. This is obviously wrong, when it was available on Martin’s twitter account.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:31 am
Les, mate… so far as I can tell, you’re the only one here who hangs out on Stormfront.

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 2:32 am
No you are lying. I conceded nothing.

Now apologise to Steve, you dirtbag.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 2:33 am
Another witness (to the effects of the beating), by the name of Officer Timothy Smith, had the following to say:

While I was in close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from his nose and the back of his head.

That’s directly from the police report. Now I could always ignore the actual evidence provided by the officers on the ground in Florida, and instead trust the word of a bunch of Australian Jew-haters and supporters of genocide, but that would be a bit silly and naive of me, wouldn’t it? No, I think I will trust Officers Smith and Ayala before I listen to anonymous losers on the interwebs.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:38 am
There is no medical report as he was never seen by a doctor or sent to a hospital and what evidence he has for self-defence should be tested in court.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 2:40 am
so much so that Sinclair had to wipe our comments and give ou a warning

Not true. The comments are still there.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 2:42 am
There is no medical report as he was never seen by a doctor or sent to a hospital and what evidence he has for self-defence should be tested in court.

No, we do have evidence, from a police officer, that he was bleeding and had likely been lying on his back when he was being hit. That was enough to let Zimmerman go free. As Zimmerman has no case to answer, setting him free was obviously the just and Christian thing to do.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:43 am
Ah, poor Les. It’s always difficult when your own words come back to make a liar out of you, isn’t it?

But keep denying it, Les; it suits my purposes swimmingly. I can easily keep linking back to what you wrote earlier to contradict you. Effortless debunking.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:44 am
In fact, given that the Black Panthers have been inciting violence against Zimmerman, and that there are lots of Leftist Congressmen who obviously want to have him killed, there is a compelling case for offering him political asylum in Australia.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:45 am
Jesus Christ… Look Bob, you gotta stop asking the same fucking question.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 2:46 am
hahahahhaha Les you’re such an apology slut

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:48 am
A police officer has no medical expertise and is there not a special prosecutor still at work so evidence will be made public?

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 2:48 am
OMG I cannot believe just how thick you are, Max. Two ambos attended to him on the scene. You know, medical professionals.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 2:50 am
A police officer has no medical expertise and is there not a special prosecutor still at work so evidence will be made public?

No, a police officer does not need medical expertise to prove that a man is bleeding. Try again.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:50 am
Bob

Yes Bob, the evidence in the case will be made public. Now go to fucking bed.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 2:50 am
Another Leftist lie is debunked. MSNBC admits Zimmerman head injury.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/03/31/MSNBC-Admits-Zimmerman-Head-Injury

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 2:53 am
A news retraction is not evidence.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 2:54 am
No, gab, OCO’s comments saying Steve couldn’t be trusted sexually around children were wiped.

Les Majesty

3 Apr 12 at 2:55 am
Well I must have super dooper eyes as I can still see them.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 2:55 am
I’ll make an apology to Steve:

Steve, I’m sorry that Les – a regular Catallaxy troll unremarkable but for the fact that the huge number of apologies he demands from others is only outstripped by the number of apologies incumbent upon him to issue due to his repeated unforced errors, which he spinelessly shirks – decided to champion your cause.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:56 am
Steve couldn’t be trusted sexually around children

Actually, he never stated that. That’s what you wrote.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 2:57 am
OCO’s comments saying Steve couldn’t be trusted sexually around children

Stop lying, Les.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 2:58 am
Amusing description of some people around here:

To a very large degree, it is the Commentariat who drive American TV and radio news coverage to the far reaches of the left and the right. Geraldo Rivera (Fox News), Rush Limbaugh (WABC), Bill O’Reilly (Fox News): these dudes are the middle-aged and male equivalent of Kim Kardashian, in that they became famous for being self-parodies and must continually up the ante of their own ridiculousness in order to maintain their fame.

Last month, a 16-year-old African American by the name of Trayvon Martin was shot in Florida by a man called George Zimmerman, who explained to police later that he acted in self-defence, even though the only artillery found on Martin was that notoriously lethal weapon, a packet of Skittles.

This case has caused a massive outcry in America and, for a while, it looked as if the rightwing Commentariat was going to struggle to find much to say against a dead child. In the past week, that has changed.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 3:00 am
Obama army – the Black Panthers – advertising a national day of action for deceased burglar, drug-dealer and bus vigilante, Trayvon Martin.

NO SCHOOL
NO WORK
NO SHOPPING

Note how Zimmerman is pictured and recollect the wacko left’s take on the Gabby Giffords shooting.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 3:01 am
Sod off Swampy

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 3:02 am
A news retraction is not evidence.

No, but the opinions of the police on the scene are very important. They found him bleeding and with wet grass on his back. Not surprisingly, it has been decided that Zimmerman has no case to answer.

On the other hand, the list of laughable Leftist lies and walk-backs is getting quite long. To start with, that he is “white” (later “white hispanic), that he said Martin looked suspicious on account of his being “black”, and that he was completely unprovoked.

All of these, and other, claims have now been debunked, and the Left thoroughly beclowned once again. There is no point paying attention to any Leftist on these matters, because you know they will be lying right up to the apology and retraction, and even after.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 3:02 am
Are the Black Panters still offering $10, 000 reward for Zimmerman’s capture dead or alive?

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 3:04 am
Let’s go over this again. A gold-toothed hoodie on 10-day suspension from school beat the crap out of a frumpy little hispanic dude and got shot. That’s sad, but the hispanic dude has rightly been let off.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 3:05 am
All right, I’m satisfied that with recent proceedings it’s been thoroughly proven that Les Majesty is an incorrigible liar. Mission accomplished.

Nighty night, all.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 3:05 am
And why aren’t these Black Panthers being arrested for vigilantism? They should be rounded up and thrown in prison at once.

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 3:06 am
Fisky: as of two days ago, BBC World was claiming that Zimmerman was white.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 3:07 am
Because they’re not White Panthers maybe?

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 3:07 am
There are only Pink Panthers left.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 3:18 am
Apologies if this has already been posted as I know this has been discussed at the Cat:

Unnoticed by the powerhouses of the British media, the economy of the United States is rebounding on the back of a manufacturing-led boom fuelled by cheap gas.

http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/4361/full

Ivan Denisovich

3 Apr 12 at 3:20 am
Buy US stocks with your ears pinned back if the GOP looks like winning the prez as the US economy could be in the beginnings of a bullmarket that could last decades.

JC

3 Apr 12 at 3:23 am
Ivan, the New York Times has attributed this development to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

So we have them to thank for it.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 3:27 am
There are only Pink Panthers left.

Racist homophobe Max is now attacking black homosexuals.

This is outrageous.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 3:30 am
So-called ‘expansionary austerity’ is looking on very shaky ground indeed in Europe.

Mark P

3 Apr 12 at 3:41 am
Oh no. Another Zimmerman lie exposed…

He’s routinely described as 220 or 240 pounds, as against poor Trayvon at just 140 pounds.

Here’s Charles Blow in the the New York Times, Mar 25:

To believe Zimmerman’s [self-defense] scenario, you have to believe that Trayvon, an unarmed boy, a boy so thin that people called him Slimm, a boy whose mother said that he had not had a fight since he was a preschooler, chose that night and that man to attack. You have to believe that Trayvon chose to attack a man who outweighed him by 100 pounds…

Now the same New York Times comes out with the truth:

However it started, witnesses described to the 911 dispatcher what resulted: the neighborhood watch coordinator, 5-foot-9 and 170 pounds, and the visitor, 6-foot-1 and 150, wrestling on the ground.

Tom Maguire at that link has numerous examples of the media describing “slim” “boy” Trayvon versus “220 pound” and “240 pound” monster Zimmerman.

But it was all a lie.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 3:48 am
So-called ‘expansionary austerity’ is looking on very shaky ground indeed in Europe.

Alesina wrong again.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 3:54 am
70

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 3:58 am
The truth hurts.

Max Scream

3 Apr 12 at 4:00 am
Was Martin a fight club referee? It does seem plausible based on his youtube channel: http://www.halfsigma.com

Fisky

3 Apr 12 at 4:32 am
This whole Zimmerman/Martin thing is really starting to fall apart quickly now, with all the major news organizations frantically trying to walk back their earlier claims.

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/

Hoo boy.

If there are riots in Florida this summer though, we still know who to blame. There’s no good way to put the toothpaste back into the tube once you’ve incited race riots as the MSM & the race-hucksters have.

sdog

3 Apr 12 at 5:24 am
Back to things economic:

Paul Krugman says Paul Ryan’s budget passed in the House of Reps last week is a fraud. He writes:

What’s going on here? The answer, presumably, is that this is what happens when extremists gain complete control of a party’s discourse: all the rules get thrown out the window. Indeed, the hard right’s grip on the G.O.P. is now so strong that the party is sticking with Mr. Ryan even though it’s paying a significant political price for his assault on Medicare.

Now, the House Republican budget isn’t about to become law as long as President Obama is sitting in the White House. But it has been endorsed by Mr. Romney. And even if Mr. Obama is reelected, the fraudulence of this budget has important implications for future political negotiations.

And Tim Colebatch thinks Labor’s budget cuts will make things worse, not better, and points to Canada as a conservative led country that is refusing to follow the same path.

We shall see, I guess.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 8:47 am
Max’s “sodomisation” troll comment above must rely on its definition as including “mental sodomy.”

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 8:50 am
Please explain why it is “fraudulent”. What you have reproduced is a press release with some weasel words.

.

3 Apr 12 at 8:50 am
Great truth telling by Gerard Henderson again today:

According to the Greens leader, “to accommodate 10 billion people at American, European or Australasian rates of consumption we will need two more planets to exploit within a few decades”.

Earlier this year, in the US, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich was ridiculed by the left when he proposed the creation of a permanent base on the moon by 2020. However, in Australia there was almost a mute reaction to Brown’s speech.

If the Prime Minister called for the establishment of a world government in which a nation of Australia’s population willingly subjected itself to the views of the citizens of communist China, she would be dismissed as having lost it. Likewise the Opposition Leader if he called for the settlement of, say, the moon or Mars.

But Brown tends to avoid criticism.

Token

3 Apr 12 at 9:20 am
Hey, that’s neat.

Real Science has a look back at a graph in a 1981 Hansen (& others) paper in Science and plot actual land/ocean temperature rises on it covering the last 30 years.

The conclusion:

To conclude, a projection from 1981 for rising temperatures in a major science journal, at a time that the temperature rise was not yet obvious in the observations, has been found to agree well with the observations since then, underestimating the observed trend by about 30%, and easily beating naive predictions of no-change or a linear continuation of trends. It is also a nice example of a statement based on theory that could be falsified and up to now has withstood the test. The “global warming hypothesis” has been developed according to the principles of sound science.

Skeptics won’t care, because they have already decided and are beyond caring about an honest appraisal of what climate science said about AGW and the evidence for it.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 9:54 am
Woops: Real Climate, not Real Science.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 9:55 am
I also thought this piece by a Republican meteorologist with the self explanatory title:

Acknowledging Climate Science Doesn’t Make You A Liberal

was very good.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 10:26 am
Steve,

Can you explain why Rep Ryan’s budget is “fraudulent”?

.

3 Apr 12 at 11:20 am
Yes, he does have gold teeth in those pictures, and no, the allegation of yours was that OCO could ONLY have got the meme from Stormfront. This is obviously wrong, when it was available on Martin’s twitter account.

Immediately after Les “Grand Dragon” Majesty posted his bizarre hysterical rant and linked to his jew hating white power site claiming it was the only source of the twitter photo on the entire internet I posted a link, for him, to the same photo on The Daily Caller.

Les saw this and immediately “moved on” from his utterly insane, slanderous ranting and started arguing in the absurd “maybe it was just halloween, etc”.

He’s in a corner now and of course can’t admit he was embarrasingly wrong and knows that he’s got some explaining to do about just what the hell he was doing hanging around Storm Front to see that picture there in the first place.

He’s just in history revising damage control now.

twostix

3 Apr 12 at 11:21 am
dot: are you too scared of catching liberal cooties if you click on the link and read Krugman’s column?

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 11:26 am
I don’t want to read a polemical, I just want some reasons. Krugman is also a terrible writer who offends the intelligence of his readers and sends to sleep at the same time.

Just tell me why Rep Ryan’s budget is “fraudulent”.

.

3 Apr 12 at 11:28 am
Queensland wins again:

Here’s the region by region breakdown showing the difference between Earth Hour and the same time the weekend before:

QLD – a 43 MW increase in demand (although AEMO put this down as ‘no discernable effect on demand’, I like to think the Queenslanders were sending a message!)

NSW – a 123 MW decrease in demand

VIC – a 27 MW decrease in demand

SA – no decrease in demand

TAS – a 2 MW decrease in demand

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 11:31 am
Dr Tim Stanley debunks and demolishes USA/Gallup poll whopper about Republicans suffering from their stance on Obama’s wacko contraception attack on Christianity.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 11:35 am
Where’s WA’s figure?

Personally, I think turning on your lights in reaction to Earth Hour is playing their game. Better to ignore.

Oh come on

3 Apr 12 at 11:36 am
Cardinal Timothy Nolan: ‘Yes, Obama is a wacko, totalitarian liar.’

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 11:39 am
I said Krugman called it fraudulent. You are free to disagree with his assessment, but that might involve reading him first.

steve from brisbane

3 Apr 12 at 11:39 am
The ABC is running a Carbon Quizlet.

Entitled “I can change your mind about climate”.

So far 54% of respondents are “dissmissive” about glowbull warming..

Take the quiz.

From Tim:

UPDATE. With 1630 votes counted, “dismissive” is now the clear leader over “alarmed”. Current scores: dismissive 45 per cent, alarmed 27 per cent, concerned 12 per cent, doubtful 10 per cent, cautious six per cent, disengaged one per cent. “Depressed” at the ABC: 100 per cent.

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 11:39 am
Auditor-General makes it official: Gillard government is completely incompetent.

THE Gillard government’s ability to oversee sensitive tender processes has been brought into question by its handling of the $223 million Australia Network tender, the Auditor-General has declared.

In a report released this morning, Auditor-General Ian McPhee confirmed the government had ignored the “unanimous professional judgement” of the tender evaluation board to award the contract to a consortium led by Sky News, ahead of the ABC.

C.L.

3 Apr 12 at 11:46 am
Update on Carbon Quizlet:

2246 votes

54% dismissive

21% Alarmed

Gab

3 Apr 12 at 11:51 am
Acknowledging Climate Science Doesn’t Make You A Liberal

As usual Liar-Steve, you are verballing people.

Everyone who is skeptical acknowledges that Climates Change, climate has always changed, it always will.

Everyone who is skeptical acknowledges scientists can work to understand the science behind the chaning climate.

The different between “US Liberals”/Warmistas and Skeptics is Warmanistas believe in the infallibility of climate models in a pseudo religious way.

Skeptics ensure they view all data with a prudent skepticism and trust imperical data based upon hundreds of millions of years over computer models.

Token

3 Apr 12 at 12:03 pm
Cardinal Timothy Nolan: ‘Yes, Obama is a wacko, totalitarian liar.’

The way that Obama has acted with the Cardinal is striking. It is very revealing of the character of Obama.

With more grace and respect Obama could’ve handled those events in a subtlely different way which would’ve shown concern for the view of the Catholic church.

Instead of doing that, Obama just shafted the church and proved to the Cardinal how incompetent and amoral he is. Indeed, Obama made sure he sounded like he is folliwng the agenda of the bureaucracy, rather than setting it.

The result is the Cardinal is just telling it like it is.

Token

3 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
Token

Do you see no good coming from catholic volunteers like Mother Teresa spending a lifetime helping the poor and giving dignity to the dying in slums like Calcuta?

On the subject of the “good” of Mother Teresa sometimes I think it is best to defer to my grandmother: don’t speak ill of the dead.

But I do want to point out two things in such works, which highlight the Roman part of Roman Catholic.

1. Mother Teresa’s attitude reveals the influence of how the Greek philosophical/religious movement Stoicism had evolved by the time of early Xianity, especially in its Roman guise. The idea that man, the universe, and god are one in a world soul; we are all equal, and that whatever role the universe/god has alloted while we are on earth is for the best, and to get all hot, sweaty, antsy, and passionate by trying to uproot this natural order will only lead to tears.

Shorter Stoics: Slave revolts are a really bad look, so is commercial aspiration. Just sit with what you’be got.

In the 1st century AD, Epictetus, a former Greek slave, became a great Stoic teacher puts in nicely. Despite having being treated poorly as a slave, including his master breaking his limbs:

I must die, but must I die groaning? I must be imprisoned, but must I whine as well? I must suffer exile, but can any prevent me from going with a good grace and at peace? This is in my power. “But I will chain you.” What say you fellow? Chain me? My leg you can chain, yes, but my will, no, not even Zeus can conquer that. “I will imprison you.” My bit of a body, you mean.

So, your point about dignity even in the slums of Calcutta has an ancient provenance. The influence of Stoicism on early Xianity – and even later, even current – is not straightforward, with some – such as Augustine – embracing some bits, rejecting others. But earlier, in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, we find a striking similarity with Mother Teresa’s mindset; indeed, the mindset of the early Xian martyrs. From Epictetus again

Never in any case say that I have lost such and such a thing, but rather that I have returned it. Is thy child dead? It is returned to the universe; it is returned to nature from which it was given you for a time.

With regard to CL’s citing a Pope as an authority of eastern religion (boo), Roman Catholicism (yay), it is clear that Stoicism’s origin were less Greek than eastern and oriental. So, ironically, Mother Teresa was basically shipping coal to Newcastle.

2. That Roman Catholic-based imperialism (particularly in the forms of Spanish/Portugese imperialism) was also an export of very weak wealth-generating capabilities is not so much a fault of Roman Catholic theology. Roman Catholicism was born and grew during the time when the Roman empire – especially in the west – had already begun its transformation/decline into feudalism. Feudalism had already gripped the Latin west by the time the Church had developed to any significance. It was in the context of a feudal economic system that the Roman Catholic church developed its ideas, its administrative structure, as feudal western Europe grew around it.

So when the Spanish/Portugese spread their empires, they spread their feudal economy and laws, and the feudal ideological/religious might of the Roman Catholic Church. So South/central America got feudalism, while the Anglosphere got capitalism.

Peter Patton

3 Apr 12 at 12:24 pm
Thanks PP, you’ve given a lot to ponder. I’ll come back to you later today

Token

3 Apr 12 at 11:57 am
Shorter Stoics: Slave revolts are a really bad look, so is commercial aspiration. Just sit with what you’be got.

Bollocks.

Stoicism means radical acceptance of what is.

It does not mean loss of desire or goal.

This is a feature of Eastern mysticism also as perfectly encapsulated in the Bhagavad Gita.

Prince Arjuna is taught by his charioteer and spititual Master Lord Krishna that we do as we must do, soldiers battle when called upon, desires and their attainment are good but whether we attain our goals is not in the final analysis truly up to us.

JamesK

4 Apr 12 at 8:30 am

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