The Great Satan Sinc

Sinclair sets a tone of aggro, intolerance for alternate viewpoints and ideological rigidity. He is the reason that the commenters behave so poorly.

m0nty in comments.

Here I thought the place was tame compared to the heady days of the early and mid-noughties.

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90 Responses to The Great Satan Sinc

  1. Infidel Tiger

    Before I met Sinclair I used a knife and fork and flushed after abluting.

  2. JJP

    I have often disagreed with Samuel J over the notions of implied and explicit rights in our constitution and with others over the scope and reach of government generally.

    Most importantly however, I have clashed repeatedly with Sinclair over his appalling taste in music.

    Not once have I been made to feel less than welcome at the Cat, despite my differing views.

  3. Gab

    I don’t care what they say about you, Sinclair. You’ll always be the ‘evil bald fascist gnome’ to me.
    Hugs and kisses.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    In the time I have been coming to Catallaxy I have always thought of Sinclair as the soul of reason and good sense. A few words from the Doomlord and all is calm. It’s a talent.

  5. Big dumb fu

    This is hands down the single best blog this country has to offer. The blogs are almost always on point, and the debate is lively, robust and enjoyable. It’s always refreshing to see the spectrum of views across the classical liberal perspective and the spectacular takedowns of big government, anti-freedom types.

  6. What doe M0nty want? A drum circle? A lot of truth-telling hugging and tears?

    Seriously, I come to the Cat to get away from that beta-male crap.

  7. Gab

    Monty

    This is your thread.

    Get on here and complain.

  8. ar

    I appreciate any man balder than me…

  9. Samson Agonistes

    I live in civilisation, wreckage.

    He should have written “I live in the wreckage of civilisation”.

  10. twostix

    The blogs are almost always on point, and the debate is lively, robust and enjoyable

    Yes but some people don’t want lively, robust debate.

    They want the status-quo to continue being them lecturing, them calling names, them sneering, them ranting and raving and for everyone else to just have to put up with it as has been the case for the last twenty years.

    Everything’s changed and the moralising, colonel blimp establishment left can’t stand it.

  11. twostix

    What doe M0nty want? A drum circle? A lot of truth-telling hugging and tears?

    Back in the heady days of the Gillard ascendency m0nty was pretty awesome. An unapologetic partisan hack and absolute shill he would give as good as he got.

    Now that labor and the broad left are on the nose he wants everyone to be forced to be nice to him.

  12. Hey while we wait for M0nty to show up to his party, why don’t we watch some South Park.

    ‘South Park’ Takes On Bullies

    Thanks Breitbart.com

  13. Jim Rose

    intolerance for alternate viewpoints! why have a blog if you do not want to hear different views. how many have been suspended from the blog and why?

  14. C.L.

    Here I thought the place was tame compared to the heady days of the early and mid-noughties.

    It is.

  15. Big dumb fu

    If you can’t honestly criticise a position, how can you improve on it? If you can’t defend a position without seeking to silence the critic, you have an indefensible position! Debate isn’t always nice, but it’s always necessary!

  16. Rabz

    m0nty’s reason for being so tetchy?

    Tonee Yabbott, come on down!

  17. wreckage

    Yeah m0nty hasn’t been the same since the Qld elections. I’m a bit worried at how much that got to him.

  18. C.L.

    I’ve always called it ‘lefty panhandling.’

    Whenever the left is being drummed out of the public square they plaintively beg: “Hey, can’t we agree that now – more than ever – we need ‘non-partisanship’ and ‘civility’?”

    No.

  19. Splatacrobat

    Even more so now the latest essential poll has the coalition on 50% of the primary vote. That would be enough to send any leftie into conniptions.

    I dare not mention the Newpoll results showing abbot as the prefered PM just in case I send poor monty into apoplectic shock.

  20. JC

    I dare not mention the Newpoll results showing abbot as the prefered PM just in case I send poor monty into apoplectic shock.

    I will, that way we can smack down two idiots with one stone.

    Monster, Stepford…

    Fellas, Abbott is the preferred PM. How about that?

    Don’t run over each other to comment. Lol

  21. boy on a bike

    It’s all Abbott’s fault. You know it makes sense.

  22. He is the reason that the commenters behave so poorly.

    I thought it was because you come here and leave trolling posts?

    ‘Lavatory Rodeo’ all wanted to come up with one 5 year plan, whereas here we want the freedom to have 23 million different ones. Let’s hear no more trolling and tell us all about yours.

    Which Dear Leader are you handing over your cash and what has he told you to do? Surely not to post trolls here?

  23. wreckage

    I thought all his guff about whatsername in Qld were trolling, but it seems he really, actually believed she was some sort of saint.

  24. Splatacrobat

    Monty is still waiting for Labor’s dead cat to bounce in the polls.

    Face it Monty, Gillard couldn’t get her cat to bounce even if she stuffed flubber up it’s arse.

  25. papachango

    Jeez and I sort of complimented m0nty on the other thread (well at least said he wasn’t as idiotic as the ‘wm’ troll), then he goes and does this.

    Maybe I need to take a leaf out of JC’s book and stop being nice to lefties ;-)

  26. Before I met Sinclair I used a knife and fork and flushed after abluting.

    No, you’re lying.

  27. Abu Chowdah

    Spot, no it’s like this:

    “No you are lying.”

    No commas if you want to nail the impression.

  28. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    No commas if you want to nail the impression.

    I’ve always wondered about that, Abu. Or is it:

    I have always wondered about that Abu.

    Six of one, half a dozen of the other. But not the same.

  29. Abu Chowdah

    And, I, have always, wondered, about you, dear Lizzie.

  30. And, I, have always, wondered, about you, dear Lizzie.

    Shatner commas FTW.

    http://j.mp/IeoDhU

  31. Spot, no it’s like this: “No you are lying.”

    NO YOU ARE BEING PEDANTIC.

  32. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Oddly placed commas that don’t seem to serve any actual purpose in punctuation, but make it look like you should take odd pauses, as William Shatner does when delivering lines.

    Thanks you, Spot.

    Abu, when I talk, like this, usually, I am doing, something, else, not enabling, conversation.

    I’m curious though. What have you often wondered about me? But tell me quick, I’m going to bed.

  33. Gillard couldn’t get her cat to bounce even if she stuffed flubber up it’s arse.

    yews gona have to ask the first bloke bout dat one

  34. Abu Chowdah

    Now you’ve done it, Lizzie.

    And you say wimmin can’t tell jokes…

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    :) Nighty Night, Abu.

  36. Gillard couldn’t get her cat to bounce even if she stuffed flubber up its arse.

    Comment of the week!

  37. Cory Olsen

    Where’s M0nty?

    And for the record Sinc is Tony Abbott

  38. Blogstrop

    This blog is remarkable for the number of erudite and witty commenters adding to the great posts by some of the country’s most astute professionals. (vaccuum off)
    Trolls like monty and SfB are superfluous flotsam in an environment where you can easily have alternative views put to you by people who know what they’re talking about. We don’t need trolls spouting boilerplate to have an argument with. They get to be rather repetitive in nature and as someone said, just add pixels to the threads.
    And if they don’t like the language they can just piss of back to LP … Oh, wait …

  39. Tal

    What we need is a Frock Fred

  40. m0nty lives in the sheltered workshop of labor’s shattered dreams

    A world free of inequality, where I can move into your sea side house and drive your continental GT, just because it’s your turn to move into my housing commission fibro and drive my rusting 70s falcon.

    A world free of risk, where I don’t even have to turn up to get paid and in fact never do.

    A world where life is beautiful all the time

  41. Trolls like monty and SfB are superfluous flotsam in an environment where you can easily have alternative views put to you by people who know what they’re talking about. We don’t need trolls spouting boilerplate to have an argument with.

    I find it somewhat amusing that many complain about how boring LP came when it started “suppressing dissent” in threads, yet there are a considerable number of thread participants here who absolutely hate the fact that people dare turn up at Catallaxy with alternative opinions. It is also a complete disconnect with reality to say that MOnt and I merely troll – our positions are frequently supported by calm argument and links. (Of course, some people now often point out that they refuse to click on anything I link to.)

  42. Sinclair Davidson

    Quick correction Steve – m0nty doesn’t just troll, you on the other hand …

  43. selen234

    He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up – Paul Keating.

    Thats Sinclair…..

  44. Mark P

    I wonder what the point of this thread is?
    Is it to bully those who express an alternate viewpoint out of the way once and for all?

    The real problem with this site is its sheer nastiness. Muscular dick swinging and
    personal attacks are routinely mistaken for ‘argument’.

    Here are some of the key issues that have been ‘debated’:
    – The supposed stagflation we are meant to be now experiencing.
    – The predictions of miraculous recovery in the UK in response to austerity.
    – The collapse of the US into another depression as a result of the ‘stimulus’.

    The real question is whether it has been worth the effort. I wish I could say the debate has been honest and enjoyable, but the truth is it hasn’t been at all.

  45. .

    You are such a loser and a mental failure Pee. Citing Elizabeth Warren in a healthcare debate and then having the temerity to talk down to people – who understand healthcare BETTER than you – does that explain some of the “nastiness”?

    It isn’t nastiness at all. It is a revulsion to stupidity. Even Jarrah or John H whack people when they deserve it – if you don’t like it – stop being such a dumbarse.

  46. JC

    Pee

    You make me laugh, you really do. You’ve been whining about mistreatment for about a year now and it basically falls on deaf ears.

    What you seem to be unable to get your head around is that people here have a marked intolerance to generalized stupidity and if the level of stupidity is ratcheted up like you normally do, the intolerance also rises.

    Here are some of the key issues that have been ‘debated’:

    Okay.

    – The supposed stagflation we are meant to be now experiencing.

    Who cares which sort of fucking the economy is going to enjoy. The non-mining sector of the economy is fucked. Add in the carbonic tax and it will be ape raped. However to geniuses like you (a public sector taxeating schlep) costs don’t matter, right?

    Here dickhead. Tell me the last time you ever saw a story like this one about an international firm in the manufacturing sector setting up shop here in the last 30 years.

    French tire maker Michelin plans to spend $750 million to build its first new North American plant in 15 years and expand an existing factory, amid rising global demand from the construction and mining sectors.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304587704577335602200937084.html

    I’m actually fucking depressed when I read that as I know I will never read such a story about a multinational manufacturer ever wanting to set up shop here unless it was a bizarro universe. However those sorts of deals are happening around the world, you self satisfied dickhead

    – The predictions of miraculous recovery in the UK in response to austerity.

    So we’re supposed to analysze all the shit you introduce as a one liner and come back to you. Fuck off. Why don’t you explain in detail form what you think has gone wrong/right in the UK. Clue. It’s ain’t Labor being in power.

    – The collapse of the US into another depression as a result of the ‘stimulus’.

    The US economy is basically in depression, you fucking idiot. U6 unemployment is 16%. However for a smug public sector taxeater like you that doesn’t matter much, right?

    The real question is whether it has been worth the effort. I wish I could say the debate has been honest and enjoyable, but the truth is it hasn’t been at all.

    Who gives a flying turkey if you’ve enjoyed the experience, you nimrod. We don’t run a massage parlor.

  47. JC

    Citing Elizabeth Warren in a healthcare debate and then having the temerity to talk down to people – who understand healthcare BETTER than you – does that explain some of the “nastiness”?

    He deserves to be sent to Singapore for a thorough whipping over that alone.
    In fact I’m amazed the monderators here are so tolerant as I would have life banned the fuck over that alone.

    But what got me was the sheer temerity of introducing that communist here as some reputable academic thinking he could get away with it. That’s what really got to me.

    The sheer audacity of hope was breathtaking in its ugliness.

  48. JC

    And one last thing Pee. The point you have to admire about the quality of debate here at the Cat is that if you’re called a douchebag as you normally are people here also do the right thing and carefully explain why you are a douchebag. Nothing could be fairer than that.

  49. Simon

    Catallaxy is immeasurably enrichened by Sinclair Davidson. The conversations have stepped up a notch as has the intellectual rigour reinforcing them.

  50. Rafe

    Not only did you gain Sinc, he also took me back on board after Jason threw me overboard in 2008. If you think that helps…

  51. blogstrop

    Viva – bagging the sponsor in those terms deserved to be highlighted. What the commenters do with it is their choice, as well as responding to the teenage girly thing.
    Rafe – it certainly does! Keep it up.

  52. mOnty, mOnty, mOnty!
    The Cat is one of the best sites going, so live with it.

  53. JC

    I think he’s still bawling the boofhead crybaby. He’ll be back though.

  54. Abu Chowdah

    Perhaps he’s packed his bags and is at checkpoint Charlie in purgatory with the Hitch. Hitch will be back amongst us and I will finally accept there is a god. It’s a good trade.

  55. wreckage

    I wonder what the point of this thread is?

    To troll you.

    Which it did.

    Problem?

  56. The first time I arrived on this site I thought it was a bunch of right wing nutters but I have come to understand them even agree with some things. If the ratio is 50 right wing nutters versus SfB and Monty seems like that is bullying to me and why are other lefties so infrequent if it is not from the terrible reception they recieve?

  57. Tal

    Kelly it’s The Cat not a garden party

  58. .

    monty is an economic crackpot and penis obsessed steve is well…a conservative catholic male obsessed with pensises. I am not vilifying anyone. I am stating facts, Liddle.

  59. monty is an economic crackpot

    Dot
    This might be how you see him but around 40% of Australians share his view and that includes corporate identities and economists. So it is a good idea to listen to what he has to say so you know what you are up against.

  60. sdfc

    It’s not the debate over someone’s views here that is the problem Kelly, it was the piss weak Monty is fat crap that drew my original remark that many of the commenters here are basically bullies (ie sad losers).

  61. blogstrop

    …many of the commenters here are basically bullies …
    Many of the commenters here say things in a less than PC way, but it is still a pristine environment compared to the scum that has been highlighted on lefty blogs, twitter, and cartoonists by-blows recently – i.e. even today by Mr. Bolt.

  62. blogstrop

    Link for my last comment.

  63. Gab

    Poor monty got his butt handed to him on the WUWT blog too.

  64. .

    It’s not the debate over someone’s views here that is the problem Kelly, it was the piss weak Monty is fat crap that drew my original remark that many of the commenters here are basically bullies (ie sad losers).

    No monty only ever got that when he went off topic. Consider it a form of externally driven, stoic self improvement.

  65. JC

    If the ratio is 50 right wing nutters versus SfB and Monty seems like that is bullying to me and why are other lefties so infrequent if it is not from the terrible reception they recieve?

    Kelly if you want “enlightened” discourse with “progressives” then this isn’t the place. It’s the Cat FFS. It’s bare knuckle brawling till the man is down and you still can hit him.

  66. Gab

    if you want “enlightened” discourse with “progressives” then this isn’t the place. It’s the Cat FFS. It’s bare knuckle brawling till the man is down and you still can hit him.

    Candidate for the Liberty Quotes list.

  67. .

    …and the loser hangs himself in the ladies with a necktie.

  68. sdfc

    So liberty is a bunch of gutless wonders laying the boots into one guy?

  69. Gab

    bunch of gutless wonders

    well, a few of them have six-packs…

  70. JC

    No one laid any boots into the dipstick, SDFC.

    Lets go through this again. Monster was making an asshat of himself and some dude linked a publicly available pic file of the idiot after he (Monster) called sinc obtuse for not agreeing with him that the Treasury (which is responsible for being out by 100% in the current years estimate) ought to be scoring the Libs budget plan.

    I then made fun of the twerp and he got all huffy. There was never a case of people laying into him, you idiot. I did.

    He was attempting to bully Sinc and the cray baby got back some of his medicine. So stop it with the bullshit.

    After I get him back he starts laying into me calling me a parasite because of my work specialty.

    Furthermore, I’ve been called a wog, dago and other stuff here by lefties and I’ve never seen you get all bitter and twisted about that. In fact I’d probably be the most abused person here history wise.

    Get off your soap box, SDFC.

  71. JC

    ….it was the piss weak Monty is fat crap….

    He seems to be, judging from the pics. He ought to lose some freaking weight, as it will do him good. Perhaps prolong his life and prevent shit like diabetes and other illnesses caused by larding up.

    I told him for his own good fella.

    I also was horrified at the dress style he displayed on a golf course. FFS if you’re not going to wear proper golf shoes and put on sneakers (which is perfectly fine with me) don’t fucking wear a pair of black socks and shorts. It’s horrifying.

  72. wreckage

    So liberty is a bunch of gutless wonders laying the boots into one guy?

    S’far as I can see the “bunch” is JC. m0nty then attracted Sinc’s attention by directly insulting Sinc.

  73. Craig

    I love that on the Cat civility takes a backseat to actually being correct.

    At least half of the threads I’ve seen on various sites end up breaking down to

    *conservative or libertairian states a position, provides cites to back up position*

    *resident leftie responds with you were mean!/that’s racist!/that’s elitist!/regressive!/why do you hate children?! And so I win!*

    I am so utterly tired of such dishonest tactics, that the fact that on the Cat no punches are pulled and everyone doesn’t bend over backwards to remain PC whilst still trying to slip in sensible points comes as a tremendous relief, and is frankly quite refreshing.

  74. .

    So liberty is a bunch of gutless wonders laying the boots into one guy?

    Stop being a mopey fuckwit. If I were as dumb as monty, I would have been held back at school indefinitely.

    We’re here to help.

    Perhaps as another economic crank you think you’ve found a kindred spirit.

  75. sdfc

    No Wreckage there were two or three others as well as JC. If it was just him running the Monty is fat line I wouldn’t have bothered mentioning it.

    It really was quite pathetic.

  76. Infidel Tiger

    mOnty is a husky gentleman (i don’t believe Roxon has made this a crime yet?), however he is a successful self made businessman and for this I salute him. We need more mOntys and conversely mOnty needs less of mOnty.

  77. JC

    Not many people made fun of the annoying idiot, SDFC. Turn it off.

    He was behaving like an asshat and deserved what he got back.

    And I still maintain he should lard down and not wear black freaking socks with sneakers on a golf course.

  78. sdfc

    Okay that’s it let’s move on.

  79. .

    Right. We move on when sdfc is ready.

    No. We pile shit on both of these economic illiterates for a while longer, and move on when WE are comfortable.

  80. sdfc

    You’ve really got to stop having tantrums Dot, I was agreeing with JC that the subject was pretty much finished.

  81. .

    JC never said it was finished. Economic illiterates such as yourself and minty will never be entitled to frame debate here.

  82. sdfc

    Anyone who believes (as you do) that you can have negative real interest rates and deflation should never call anyone an economic illiterate.

  83. JC

    SDFC, you clown, you were suggesting only last week i was the culprit for not believing that

    Is that your stock putdown, is it. You make a wild dishonest accusation and hope it sticks.

    You’re worse than Boofhead Monster in some ways.

  84. .

    Hahahahahaha!

    You “proved” (err no) that with TIPS data – using future expected rates (do you even know what this means you dumb shit?). I produced the data earlier but you refused to look at it. I also produced research papers that showed the Fisher hypothesis breaks down if there is QE or sharp contracting policy. If it doesn’t hold, then what I’m saying can happen.

    Obviously.

    Return on investment doesn’t matter! Cashflow! Cashflow!

    Ideas like yours would literally ruin an economy. Keep on making losses and going further and further into debt until the balance sheet has nothing left and we force ourselves into QE and destruction of the currency. What matters is the amount of money sloshing around!

    How the fuck do you get to be a chief economist of a bank you deadshit? Do you wear a red nose to work and are you written off as entertainment?

  85. we need ‘non-partisanship’ and ‘civility’?”

    CL
    The reason I say this is because when the coalition suggests stupid big government socialist policies I find I am one of very few to tell it how it is. The coalition does have crap policies also and would prefer that those who claim to be conservative on such issues to be non-partisan and call the coalition out for their bad policies but find many actually defend such policies only based on partisanship and ironically the lefties often comment on such stupid policies based on their partisan position despite it being against their ideology also.

  86. wreckage

    many actually defend such policies

    I don’t see many. Quotes?

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