Before A. Bolt removes his post:
he said:
“This is a man who should have been tried quietly, almost secretly, and executed miserably, humiliatingly. (I’m reminded here of the powerful finale of Angels With Dirty Faces, in which a priest persuades a murderer who’d resolved to die game to go instead to the electric chair screaming and crying, to “die yeller” to warn off the buys who admired him still.)”
it’s disappointing he would say that. the norway killer should be judged, put in jail/psych and forgotton. like martin bryant – just the same.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. Ronald Reagan
JC, thaat piece by Andrew C. McCarthy on Holder is very good. Thanks. Holder really is a trash. And a complete criminal, of course, as he proved in the Clinton years. He was chosen by Obama solely because he’s a black radical. No other reason.
kelly I suppose your point is the the Norwegian murderer is a man of the “right”. So what do you mean by the “right”? What does a psychopathic murderer have in common with classical liberalism, cultural conservatism, libertarian/anarchism and some other positions that people on the left like to sweep into a big bundle labelled “The Right”? What is the point of using “left” and “right” as general purpose labels?
Breivik is also an Islamophobe, which is a position widely adopted on the right.
Breivik constructs the struggle as a war of civilisation, us against the evil doers, the West versus Islam and this is a position widely adopted on the right.
Would the UN condone sending flowers to honour the memory of Hitler, or Stalin, or Mao? – well they did to honour Kim Jong Il. A tribute. As well, “the communist parties of Peru and Norway sent delegates, bearing gifts, to celebrate the 100th birthday of Kim Il Sung”, no doubt the Greens also sent some flowers.
Talking about people filled with hate based upon race.
Another opportunity for Obama to talk about the sons he never had…
From security video, neighborhood police officers identified six of the nine alleged assailants who beat Mathew Turner, 35, until he was unrecognizable.
The beating took place hours after Damien Blandina, 31, working underneath a car near Chapel Street and Ellsworth Avenue, was crushed when the jacks slipped from under the car.
The nucking futs murdering scumbag expressed admiration for al Qaeda, so he’s not that much of a rightwinger. He has nothing in common with what’s come to be known as the counter-jihad movement.
Islamophobia is a stupid, made up word used to cow people into silence. There is nothing irrational about not wanting to put up with a belief system that tells you how to go to the toilet (go in left foot first and out right foot first – Reliance e9.1(6) and how to make sure you’ve got it all out.)
Seriously, Samson, do you really think it’s a terrible thing to not want to live like that?
You don’t get a little bit of sharia. It’s like being a little bit pregnant. It’s there or it’s not, and if you allow a smidge in, then the rest isn’t far behind.
That doesn’t make me a Breivik or an extremist. It makes me a realist.
The part that old reefer brain, FDB missed was this part of Rafe’s explanation.
kelly I suppose your point is the the Norwegian murderer is a man of the “right”. So what do you mean by the “right”? What does a psychopathic murderer have in common with classical liberalism, cultural conservatism, libertarian/anarchism and some other positions that people on the left like to sweep into a big bundle labelled “The Right”?
Could those of you who are in favor of forcing (by State fiat if necessary) liberal democratic societies to “tolerate” Islam in the name of “multiculturalism” at least come straight out and admit that you hate women, jews and homosexuals?
It wouldn’t make your position any more tenable, but at least you’d be being honest for a change.
what is the difference between attempted bullying versus actual bullying?
This is an attempt to subjugate you to his use of language. It’s like being retaught English by a parking cop. Only manipulative weasels attempt this level of pissantery.
HE newly-elected Campbell Newman government has been rocked with the resignation of Police Minister David Gibson for allegedly driving without a licence.
Just ten days after being elevated to cabinet, the rising Liberal National Party star was forced to resign after it emerged he had been driving after his licence was suspended last November.
Mr Gibson, a former army officer and one-time general manager of the Gympie Times, north of Brisbane, tonight tendered his resignation when Mr Newman confronted him over the allegations.
The father-of-five has been lauded as a future LNP premier and was instrumental in last year forcing the party’s leadership change to Mr Newman after he publicly criticised predecessor John Paul Langbroek and retreated to the backbench.
It is the first ministerial axing in the Newman government, coming less than a month after the former lord mayor led the LNP to a crushing victory over Labor, winning 78 seats in the 89-seat parliament.
Could those of you who are in favor of forcing (by State fiat if necessary) liberal democratic societies to “tolerate” Islam in the name of “multiculturalism” at least come straight out and admit that you hate women, jews and homosexuals?
sdog, this raises an interesting issue.
I’m in favour of people hanging out together and having whatever beliefs they want to have, even if I personally don’t like their beliefs or agree. I guess that can simplistically be called “freedom of religion.”
Where I draw the line is amending existing laws, regulations and procedures to the inconvenience of others, to accommodate those beliefs and practices. For example, clearing out the local pool so that there can be segregated swimming, or allowing people to make sworn statements with their face concealed.
What does a psychopathic murderer have in common with classical liberalism, cultural conservatism, libertarian/anarchism and some other positions that people on the left like to sweep into a big bundle labelled “The Right”?
Rafe
Absolutely nothing just as Dick Smith has nothing to do with Pol Pot or Stalin as was suggested today. It is better to only argue on points not bring up the worst people in history and make silly comparisons. He does have a lot in common with the Islamic terrorists though and describes himself as a Christian. Some of the commentators here do label all muslims as terrorists which is just as bad as calling all christians terrorists. I do not agree with the death penalty and unlike the politicians of both sides who agreed with the death penalty for Indonesians I keep my principle.
So main point is don’t argue left or right and definately don’t introduce historical dictators of no relevance.
Now, Spot, where’s your relativism gone? You should know better than to speak clearly and without confusion. So long as it all feels like you’re thinking all the correct thoughts then you are.
It’s not nice to point out what multiculturalism is actually about (ie social engineering the petty individuals out in order to bring in or bring up the collective). You could be forcing people to clarify their thoughts.
It’s not nice to point out what multiculturalism is actually about…
You are right, we should be more inclusive like the UK is:
Lord Nazir Ahmed, the first Muslim life peer of the British House of Lords, has offered a bounty of £10 million (about $16 million) for the capture of President Barack Obama, as well as that of former President George W. Bush, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), citing the Pakistani press.
“Lord” Ahmed is an absolute disgrace and should have been attained of his title years ago. It’s only a ae they don’t lock up disgraced lords in the Tower of London anymore.
Some of the commentators here do label all muslims as terrorists which is just as bad as calling all christians terrorists.
Not all muslims are terrorists, BUT most terrorists are muslims.
That is not a “vibe”, that is cold hard fact.
Until you can present to us a list of the thousands upon thousands of modern-day terrorism events committed by faithful christians shouting “Jesus is Our Savior!” as they kill the innocent, I will feel free to call you a dishonest moral-equivalence apologist.
Some of the commentators here do label all muslims as terrorists which is just as bad as calling all christians terrorists.
Since 9/11 media has reported over 18,000 attacks by Muslims (mostly on other muslims, please note) which can be labelled ‘terrorist’.
Similar attacks by all other major religiously-affiliated persons combined seem to come to about 5% of this at best. So Sdog is correct.
Hey look, SA has revealed himself as a gap toothed window licking anti-American bigot. Hey SA, what’s your view on Israel giving the Palestinians a proper flogging for continually launching rockets at towns in Israel?
Question: How has decades of affirmative-action feminism changed the notoriously sexist world of Labor politics?
Answer: A female Labor Prime Minister defends rich union leaders who are accused of spending members’ funds on prostitutes and Germaine Greer cracks jokes about Julia Gillard’s arse.
Not all muslims are terrorists, BUT most terrorists are muslims.
That is true but if muslims do not feel they are ok in a country they will react. The reaction is to not report people who are highly suspicious. It is harmful whenever someone labels them all terrorists because of this fact. Observation has led me to think this especially in Thailand where the south is no different to Iraq but Bangkok is peaceful. There is a combination of 2 things that has caused this in my opinion. The further you move from bangkok the more the people don’t like the government and the lower the wealth and in the south it happens there were muslims there. Those of the North and North East were recruited by the former PM before he was deposed to beat up on protestors against him. Just pointing out the buddhists in outlying areas are prone to recruitment by bad forces also. So the bangkok muslims do feel they are being looked after therefore can’t be recruited to carry out terrorist acts. Even in the south it only takes a very small number to cause a lot of damage. There are other issues but this is a reasonable summary without going into detail.
SA is so like that troll we had around here until recently that took weeks to figure out how to get the block quotes right. We unfortunately seem to be attractive to a certain type of troll.
The newspaper said the peer called the US bounty on Saeed “an insult to all Muslims”.
“If the US can announce a reward of $10m for the captor of Hafiz Saeed, I can announce a bounty of £10m on President Obama and his predecessor George Bush,” it quoted him as saying.
While I was at the Guardian I found this amazing story about how the UK is reliving the politics of the progressive era
Tens of millions of pounds of UK aid money have been spent on a programme that has forcibly sterilised Indian women and men, the Observer has learned. Many have died as a result of botched operations, while others have been left bleeding and in agony. A number of pregnant women selected for sterilisation suffered miscarriages and lost their babies.
The UK agreed to give India £166m to fund the programme, despite allegations that the money would be used to sterilise the poor in an attempt to curb the country’s burgeoning population of 1.2 billion people…
Why does the UK fund such barbarity? Come on, why are progressives across the globe reviving the programs of social darwinism?
still don’t know what the “code” and “Close Tags” are for
“code” is an antiquated html tag these days, harking back to the time when the internet was still dominated by geeks. It is, quite simply, the font that you’re supposed to use when you’re posting raw computer code…
and it looks like this.
Yeah I know. It’s not much different to regular text.
“Close tags” is a nice thing to click if you accidentally left an open tag (such as an open blockquote or italics.)
Oh please, Samson. We’re talking people who will riot at the drop of a cartoon and kill bystanders.
We all know that you’re not supposed to insult islam because it can get you killed, and the fatwa is still hanging over Rushdie’s head – too bad a couple of his translators weren’t so fortunate (God rest their souls).
Labour suspended him without even informing of the fact.
And fair enough too.
Whatever you think of Bush and Blair, they were political leaders of Western nations. They’re not criminals. You don’t issue bounties on their heads without consequence.
Labour suspended him without even informing of the fact.
And? You’re suggesting this is against party rules, against the law, break human rights treaties. What the point of this comment bobster?
Muslims who may have said ‘scary stuff’ against nice people like Bush and Blair have to receive their thrashing.
Has be been thrashed or just thrown out of the party you over the top fool.
Bobster are you in some way worried about yourself here, concerned that one day you’ll really say something totally outlandish and stupid for the labor will have to throw you out to the party?
Wow, She was really really cute and made lots of sense. I didn’t even have to invoke the JC rule with her that says cute women that say silly things have a right to speak out as much as they like.
Beautiful, intelligent and rational.
Compared to Von Roxon and the idiot Geoffrey Robertson.
None of which is applicable to nasty bob whose brain has long been well pickled by the sauce
Bob doesn’t seem to like goodlooking confident and articulate conservative females.
Still required reading for those concerned by the communist heathen in the White House and the band of Star Wars bar scene lunatics he brought with him to Washington:
John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet.
In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:
• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.
titled peers are not supposed to be dabbling in high treason.
I don’t give a flying fuck for royal titles. “Titled Peers” are only allegedly better than me or mine because some unelected inbred Euroweenie who other allegedly-sane people believe has “magic blood” says they are. What bothers me more is that elected representatives of so-called liberal democracies who pull this shit are tolerated and defended by other so-called supporters of liberal democracy.
She was critical of some particular action of the Israeli government over an issue that actually showed how one can be critical and fair…not cloaked in some anti-Jew hatred the left practices these days.
Israel banning Guenther Grass for what he said is an obscenity.
That’s what the copt gal talked about and suggested the Israeli government should never have done it as it sends out the wrong message about liberalism and that he’s a fucking idiot anyways. It demonstrated a little hypocrisy on the part of the Israelis. Fair enough.
Bob, obscene is this the Liars Party in Coalition with the Greenslime. Obscene is your remorseless stupidity and Carr thinking you a genius. That’s obscene. What Israel did was wrong and a mistake.
JC
Curious as seems like you would want to be in a political party. Also I will be sending off an application probably tomorrow to the LNP if they will accept a ratbag like me.
I have to admit Roxon performed very very well tonight.
Sad but true.
The questions were all softball leftwing questions and the audience was mostly Greenslime so she would get a decent hearing from those turkeys, no surprise there. It was a softball program anyway.
HE newly-elected Campbell Newman government has been rocked with the resignation of Police Minister David Gibson for allegedly driving without a licence.
Wow. The biggest scandal to rock Queensland since the former Labor Opposition Leader was jailed for raping children.
Just ten days after being elevated to cabinet, the rising Liberal National Party star was forced to resign after it emerged he had been driving after his licence was suspended last November.
Assuming SA’s link is correct I can’t do much worse than that.
The Iranian regime has officially congratulated Gunter Grass. The 84 year-old, who won the Nobel prize for literature in 1999, wrote a poem – published three days ago on the Bavarian daily ‘Sueddeutsche Zeitung’ – called ‘What should be said’, urging Germany not to sell Israel submarines that may be used for a “pre-emptive attack” on the ayatollahs’ regime.
In a letter sent to the “illustrious author Gunter Grass”, Iran’s deputy Culture minister, Javadi Shamaqdari, wrote: “I have read your literary work, highly responsible both from a human and historical point of view, and I found it extremely timely….”
Question: Speaking of questions and answers, when is the only time that a Muslim isn’t welcome on the panel for the ABC’s Q & A program?
Answer: When professional atheist Richard Dawkins is booked to argue that God doesn’t exist, in which case he is put up against Catholic Cardinal George Pell.
Question: How many crimes have been solved on Midsomer Murders since still-uncompleted investigations began into the union scandal involving Labor MP Craig Thomson?
Answer: Assuming two solved crimes per episode, around 56.
Iran congratulates Gunter Grass over anti-Israel poem
Says it all. What a poor, silly old man is Grass. He has never come to terms with his admittedly minor and explicable role in the activities of wartime Nazi Germany. He was a kid, really, but still the enormity of the guilt and the wrongness of it all damaged him psychically for life. It’s eaten away at him and consequently he has obsessed about the nation of Israel for years.
Steady on Spot, he’s a Labour peer.
Blair’s ZaNuLabour supplied that ermine, not magic blood. ZaNuLabour also saw to it that he served only sixteen days in the chokey for vehicular manslaughter.
Question: I live in a Labor electorate. How will the NBN and the carbon tax make a difference to my life?
Answer: Sometime in 2013 you will wake to find that you magically now live in a Liberal electorate.
I was thoroughly underwhelmed by AC Grayling, and as for G Robertson, dear, oh dear. Could you imagine the cat fight if these two ever had to share a bathroom. Look, I hope the HMS AC Grayling steams past South Head before he leaves our shores. Last report: HMS Dawkins sunk. Survivors seen on shore. Evidence of cannibalism.
The German writer is the last person who should be speaking out against the Jews’ doomsday weapon
Logic and reason are useless when a highly intelligent man, a Nobel laureate no less, does not understand that his membership in an organization that planned and carried out the wholesale genocide of millions of Jews disqualifies him from criticizing the descendants of those Jews for developing a weapon of last resort that is the insurance policy against someone finishing the job his organization began. What could be more self-evident?
This is not about all Germans. They have every right to express their geopolitical views, and even Grass can be as critical of Israel as he wishes. Certainly there can be no law limiting his freedom of speech, but some things are so fundamental that they should not even need laws. It is a matter of basic human decency.
One German-Jewish commentator has already accused Grass of being the “prototype of the polite anti-Semite who claims he is a friend of the Jews.”
Question: What happens when a conservative government stops kissing up to left-wing causes?
Answer: In Queensland, luvvies are said to be reeling and dumbfounded after Campbell Newman’s government cut prizes for writers and told United Nations’ environmentalists to bugger off out of the Great Barrier Reef. Luvvies don’t vote conservative anyway, so the only real change is in the volume of leftist complaint.
Nuremberg was an open trial, James. There was no TV but news reels of it were dispatched throughout the world and pressmen attended by the hundred. It was in no conceivable way secret. Secret trials are an abomination to any democrat. Advocating a wilfully cruel and unusual execution (also secret) – or, indeed, any execution – is appalling.
Your cultural relativism is on a par with the Nazis, and I am not joking.
The only interpretation available is that Lazlo thinks that both SA and the Nazis (or I suppose neither, which kinda neuters the comment) were into cultural relativism.
I dunno about you, but I’m going to go with the only plausible interpretation available, rather than spouting deranged nonsense and not explaining what I mean and stuff.
I think Bolt is coming from the angle of why give the murdering anarchist any air time and why put the relatives through the pain of watching that lunatic appear almost pleased with himself.
When you’re on your 3rd reefer for the evening you tend to read deeply into shit and make gargantuan mountains out of molehills.
Laz’s comment was a throw away line to show that Bob’s is careering down nazi ave in a Volkswagen at 100 mph. He was just trying to warn the old goat that his antisemitism is beginning to look like what the Nazis believed.
why give the murdering anarchist any air time and why put the relatives through the pain of watching that lunatic appear almost pleased with himself
Because you need to be consistent in your application of the rule of law, not chuck your standards in the bin just because someone’s done something particularly bad.
Because you need to be consistent in your application of the rule of law, not chuck your standards in the bin just because someone’s done something particularly bad.
He used to be like the obedient house pet when he was last here. Scared of his own shadow.
He now over compensates in case he gets called a leftie weenie and stuff. He wants to be known as a mans man. Tough and ready to do battle. As though we can’t see though that thin veneer.
If you want this cowardly scumbag in Norway to inspire an army of imitators the best possible thing you could do would be to try him secretly and quickly – and then put him to death in a cruel and unusual way, sub rosa.
It’s clear that you don’t know what cultural relativism is Lazlo.
At its core, cultural relativism is the acknowledgement that a person who does something We think is horrible might be doing something noble in Their own worldview. As such it is just logically irrefutable fact.
However, it has come to mean “all cultures are the same and all morality is equally good or bad so, like, whatevs” to people who basically are stupid.
Yes. It was a better world when we had capital punishment. Discuss.
Since DNA there have been many let go because they were innocent after rotting in jail waiting for the death penalty in the US. To accept the death penalty you must accept that no policeman could ever be corrupt and no judge could ever be corrupt and in the case of jury trials that they would never get it wrong.
As such, under the first definition, it might be possible to argue the Nazis were cultural relativists? They were certainly moral relativists; rounding up non-Jews and murdering them was simply not done, no civilised person would act so! On the other hand, when it’s Jews, (and gypsys, gays, etc.,) suddenly herding civilians into death-camps was A-OK.
The loon that killed 200 people in the Oklahoma bombings was tried in the regular court, where the judge allowed no cameras, the verdict was handed down and the fuckers was executed soon after. It was clean, cool and crisp. There were no reprisals after that either.
This fucker has the cameras on him and he performs his bullshit about not recognizing the judicial system and crap like that.
If McVeigh tried that shit he would have have been bound and gagged, although given the opportunity to speak and if he tried to talk nonsense the judge would have had him gagged again.
This is a circus as they are allowing the prick to dictate some of the court drama.
To accept the death penalty you must accept that no policeman could ever be corrupt and no judge could ever be corrupt and in the case of jury trials that they would never get it wrong.
Ur talkin’ nonsense again Kelly.
Tell us one man who was wrongly executed in the USA since WWII
This is a good thing it makes him look like a fool and people will not want to follow him. The maximum 21 years sentence is a bit of a concern. What if he can’t be rehabilitated?
Tell us one man who was wrongly executed in the USA since WWII
I don’t know but I am sure they exist. James why do you want the state to have more power? If you accept the legal system in the US it is more expensive to kill someone so why would you bother just let them sit in jail and if they are found innocent at a later date they can be freed. The death penalty is final and can’t be reversed at all.
I’m pretty sure there were reporters at the McVeigh trial, JC. It wasn’t secret and it wasn’t rushed. Bolt opposes the televisation of the Breivik trial and then relates to his readers what he saw and learned while watching it. He assumes other people might race off and shoot people. This is Finkelsteinian. It’s exactly why the Fink said the little people couldn’t be trusted with their reading and viewing habits.
Kelly, being executed in the US is not an easy task. There are numerous appeals that have to be gone through and the SCOTUS takes a look at every single one. There is also the possibility of the governor of the state commuting the sentence, or its Federal the president.
So potentially 1 in a million adulta wrongly executed after due process (and you can’t show 1 in the last 60 years in the USA) versus many milllions killed yearly around da world in the the advanced 21 st century ‘civilization’.
Here’s a list of wrongful executions in the US.
Surely it’s uncontroversial that there will be wrongful convictions from time to time, and therefore wrongful executions, rare though they may be.
More evidence that Breivik is a counter-Jihandist:
Anders Breivik’s manifesto reveals a subculture of nationalistic and Islamophobic websites that link the European and American far right in a paranoid alliance against Islam and is also rooted in some democratically elected parties.
The Guardian has analysed the webpages he links to, and the pages that these in turn link to, in order to expose a spider web of hatred based around three “counter-jihad” sites, two run by American rightwingers, and one by an eccentric Norwegian. All of these draw some of their inspiration from the Egyptian Jewish exile Gisele Littman, who writes under the name of Bat Ye’or, and who believes that the European elites have conspired against their people to hand the continent over to Muslims.
Kelly, it really shouldn’t be about cost. I’m not in favour of the death penalty, but the often-wheeled-out ‘cost’ argument (namely, pointing out how expensive a proper death penalty system is) strikes me as flippant and unserious.
JC
How can you call it working if it costs more money than letting them stay in jail?
Because it’s an acceptable price to pay to ensure the convicted criminal is indeed guilty, the crime is truly heinous and the victims have a right to speak from the grave and claim his or her life.
In any event the costs are trumped up by the anti-execution crowd because they include the lawyers time in the effort. However the lawyers are government lawyers on the government side and their salary is fixed anyway, which they would receive if they were working on the case or not.
Eurabia is the term given by right wing extremists to the supposed conspiracy to ‘Islamicise Europe’ and who uses that term besides Breivik and Littman:
The term is often used by writers such as Oriana Fallaci,[7] Robert Spencer,[8] Daniel Pipes,[9] Melanie Phillips,[10] Mark Steyn[11] and several web sites.[12]
2083: A European Declaration of Independence, the manifesto of Anders Behring Breivik, the perpetrator of the 2011 Norway attacks, includes a lengthy discussion of and support for the “Eurabia” theory.[13] As a result, the theory received widespread mainstream media attention following the attacks.[14]
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Eurabia is the term given by right wing extremists to the supposed conspiracy to ‘Islamicise Europe’ and who uses that term besides Breivik and Littman
And Chimerica is the term by right wing extemists in the supposed conspiracy to but debt laden America outa hegemony.
The Guardian has analysed the webpages he links to, and the pages that these in turn link to, in order to expose a spider web of hatred based around three “counter-jihad” sites, two run by American rightwingers, and one by an eccentric Norwegian
Good research, Guardian.
The reporter visited three blogs.
…Bat Ye’or… who believes that the European elites have conspired against their people to hand the continent over to Muslims.
Well, they have. Tony Blair’s speech-writer admitted it:
It didn’t just happen: the deliberate policy of ministers from late 2000 until at least February last year was to open up the UK to mass migration… to make the UK truly multicultural…the policy was intended to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date… this shone through even in the published report: the “social outcomes” it talks about are solely those for immigrants.
Eurabia is the term given by right wing extremists to the supposed conspiracy to ‘Islamicise Europe’ and who uses that term besides Breivik and Littma
Samson, I have no problem conceding that when Breivik voted (if he voted) it would probably have been for right-of-centre parties. Certainly he read and followed, and sympathised with, several voices on the right.
However, it’s a logical fallacy to attribute cause here. John Lennon was assassinated by a guy who was obsessed with the book “Catcher in the Rye.” That doesn’t make it a dangerous book.
And Breivik is neither left nor right, but bad and mad? Hiding something?
Bob
Tell you what. Count up all the deaths caused by leftist lunatics around the world, add them up then do the same for those that could be claimed to be rightwing inspired.
Leave out leftwing Nazi Germany out of the pic as that would cause you endless hassle.
Start the count from the first commie wave of the French Revolution.
Don’t forget to count JFK, killed by a left wing assassin and not a gun crazy Texan nut as leftists want to lie about.
Hirsi Ali – the woman who turned the story of her life into a cock-and-bull story bearing no resemblance to truth and is still seen as somebody worth listening to?
Hirsi Ali – the woman who turned the story of her life into a cock-and-bull story bearing no resemblance to truth and is still seen as somebody worth listening to?
Old news, Bobster, you old clown. Leftists threw her under a bus ages ago.
Tell you what. Count up all the deaths caused by leftist lunatics around the world, add them up then do the same for those that could be claimed to be rightwing inspired.
Leave out leftwing Nazi Germany out of the pic as that would cause you endless hassle.
Start the count from the first commie wave of the French Revolution.
Don’t forget to count JFK, killed by a left wing assassin and not a gun crazy Texan nut as leftists want to lie about.
Hirsi Ali – the woman who turned the story of her life into a cock-and-bull story bearing no resemblance to truth and is still seen as somebody worth listening to?
She’s a babe bob.
Besides which she’s brave, intelligent and rational as well.
The pen is mightier than the sword or for a modern day version the video is mightier than the sword.
If anyone bothered to read my comments above I did explain in basic terms why labelling all muslims terrorists is extremely dangerous and if the tone of any high profile people in Europe did or do this they are endangering their countries.
Hirsi Ali – the woman who turned the story of her life into a cock-and-bull story bearing no resemblance to truth and is still seen as somebody worth listening to?
That’s a strong call, for someone who cannot back up the wimpish claim and without the evidence to back it up. You really are a pathetic wanker.
The culture of retribution does seem to exist in the US that is why they kill each other at the fastest rate in the developed world.
No. Impoverished and unemployed black people living in urban and rural squalor kill each other at such an astonishing rate that it turns the US’ otherwise unexceptional overall murder rate into a very high murder rate.
Jobs would help. A return to the family unit rather than a culture of abandonment and dependence (on the State) would help as well.
For Gab @12.04am on giving the nfms any oxygen. here’s one reason why he’s getting more than enough.
There is no way this is going to be an orderly, lawful trial. It’s going to be an utter dog’s breakfast (sorry, Spot), and it will be all downhill from here, I reckon.
“… the planet has become the new proletariat that must be saved from exploitation—if necessary, by reducing the number of human beings … The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, a group of people who have decided not to reproduce, has announced: “Each time another one of us decides to not add another one of us to the burgeoning billions already squatting on this ravaged planet, another ray of hope shines through the gloom. When every human chooses to stop breeding, Earth’s biosphere will be allowed to return to its former glory.” … Environmentalism has become a global ideology that covers all of existence—not merely modes of production but ways of life as well. We rediscover in it the whole range of Marxist rhetoric, now applied to the environment … Authors, journalists, politicians, and scientists compete in the portrayal of abomination and claim for themselves a hyper-lucidity: they alone see clearly while others vegetate in the darkness.’’
My own interim theory is that the current catastrophism epidemic in the West is an endgame of Christian guilt and self-loathing when the deprivation upon which they were built is relieved by the arrival of affluence.
Mitt fail? Obama in lead? Julia fail? Abbot in lead
but who cares – they all prostitute their principles after they arrive and their creditors demand a return for what they tipped into their begging bowls on the way up – and into their begging bowls for the next election – and the pork into their begging bowls for their own electorates.
To even imagine we have any political choice seems bizarre to me.
I may as well vote for my dog. At least he is an honest carnivore and doesnt deny it.
Monty
It really doesn’t matter if Romney or Obama win they are the same. A balanced budget in 30 years which is apparently Romneys plan won’t happen the dollar will collapse one day it is just a matter of time. Only true difference I can find is money for defense versus money for green energy.
Monty
It really doesn’t matter if Romney or Obama win they are the same. A balanced budget in 30 years which is apparently Romneys plan won’t happen the dollar will collapse one day it is just a matter of time. Only true difference I can find is money for defense versus money for green energy.
Whoever wins is going to have to eat a number of bowls of the proverbial starting right after the election. The manufacturing-led recovery, which is just starting to feed through with U6 below 15% for the first time since Obama was sworn in, will have to survive the short-term shock of the federal budget cuts.
The greenback collapsing would actually be great for the US economy in many ways. They could export their way out of trouble like a normal country. But of course they’re not normal.
Fascinating story though I wish the newspapers would stop printing headlines with ‘higher IQ than Einstein’. Einstein never took an IQ test. No one knows what it was
James
The link you gave doesn’t seem to work but even if it did I am not likely to change my mind.
The greenback collapsing would actually be great for the US economy in many ways.
That is true so long as it is slow but it does mean people get poorer. No more $5 shirts or $3 gasoline. It is interesting to see what the market thinks with US gov Bonds. The market only gives a 3.12% return on 30 years which implies almost no growth and a strong dollar. I think the market is wrong but James or JC can hold out hope that Romney will change everything. The difference I see between Japan and US is the US has a lot of foreign debt and Japan does not. Of course I realise I might be wrong about what happens but something will.
I was watching a fine film from 1975 the other night, reflecting the views of a century before. They’re savages, here.___ Leave ‘em all to go back to slaughtering babes and playing stick ‘n’ ball with one another’s heads, and pissing on their neighbours.
Costello’s jobs-for-the-boys pay for two days a fortnight:
Former federal treasurer Peter Costello is set to earn more than $140,000 in his new job reviewing Queensland’s finances for the Liberal National Party government.
brisbanetimes.com.au can reveal the government has agreed to pay Mr Costello $3300 per day, plus GST, as he heads up the commission of audit examining the state of the books.
The worse the economy performs the more the unproductive rich take:
Emmanuel Saez and Thomas Piketty have spent the last decade tracking the incomes of the poor, the middle class and the rich in countries across the world. More than anything else, their work shows that the top earners in the United States have taken a bigger and bigger share of overall income over the last three decades, with inequality nearly as acute as it was before the Great Depression.
What they found startled them. As in other industrially advanced countries, income inequality in the United States fell after World War II, a period that economic historians call the “Great Compression,” and remained stable through much of the 1970s.
But then inequality started increasing again, with the top 1 percent of earners drawing a bigger and bigger share of overall income. Their graph showing the trend became well-known: a deep U, with inequality as acute today as it was just before the depression.
That has led the two economists to renew their calls for higher rates on the rich. Along with Peter Diamond, an emeritus professor at M.I.T. and a Nobel laureate, Mr. Saez has estimated the “optimal” top tax rates for the wealthy — getting the most revenue from those most able to surrender it — to be between 45 and 70 percent.
SA
So you think US tax rates should become even less competitive? The only tax break is no tax on overseas investment earnings. Personal view they should tax overseas investments as Aus does but at a lower rate and tax foreign wage income less.
Underlying Obama’s entire thesis is the work of two economists, Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez. According to them, median American incomes rose just 3.2% from 1979 through 2007. (All figures are inflation adjusted.)
So what happened to the rest of the dough? The top 10%, 1% and 0.1% grabbed all the money. Or pretty much most of it. Time to crank up taxes on the rich and spend more on the middle class. It’s not overstating things to say that the findings of Piketty and Saez form the very heart of Obamanomics, giving a powerful economic rationale for Obama policies such as ending the upper-end Bush tax cuts to Obamacare to the Buffett Rule.
But it’s just not true, according to a new study in National Tax Journal from researchers at Cornell University. (Here’s an earlier, working-paper version.) The academics, led by economist Richard Burkhauser, don’t say the findings of Piketty and Saez are wrong — just incredibly, massively incomplete. According to the Cornell study, median household income – properly measured – rose 36.7%, not 3.2% like Piketty and Saez argue. That’s a big miss.
Jarrah says facilely. Alice agrees just as facilely.
“Because political leaders of Western nations can’t be criminals?”
Thats only because they dont get charged and usually get pardoned by the incoming CEOs (you know the speech “we have to move on and put this all behind us”).
Credit card crime, limo abuse crimes, wiretapping crimes, tax cheat crimes, civil liberty crimes, tax theft crimes, you name it. Which political leader of a western nation hasnt been a criminal is a good question to ask?
Answer – none. They dont get charged for their crimes.
Crime is only for little people.
brisbanetimes.com.au can reveal the government has agreed to pay Mr Costello $3300 per day, plus GST, as he heads up the commission of audit examining the state of the books.
Well, given Costello would’ve been earning more than that as a barrister BEFORE spending a decade as the nation’s Treasurer, you might say he’s performing this gig as a charity do.
brisbanetimes.com.au can reveal the government has agreed to pay Mr Costello $3300 per day, plus GST, as he heads up the commission of audit examining the state of the books.
That’s an amazing bargain for someone who’s run a national economy very successfully for 11 years. If you were to get a senior consultant/partner from McKinseys or Deloittes they’d charge double that and wouldn’t have a tenth of the experience.
God bless Silvio Berlusconi. That’s what I like to see – REAL Roman Catholics. There’s something to be said for Latin nuns. Whatever happened in the translation from Italy to Ireland? Ah, to be sure, to be sure, twas a crying shame.
Stripper nuns danced for Berlusconi: trial
Strippers in nun costumes danced in front of Silvio Berlusconi at his villa, a witness on Monday told a Milan court where the former Italian prime minister is on trial for allegedly having sex with an underage prostitute.
Model Imane Fadil said the first time she went to a party she was given 2000 euro ($2519) in cash by Berlusconi, who told her: “Don’t be offended.”
That night she said she saw two young women in nun costumes with “black tunics, white veils and crosses” stripping in front of the then prime minister.
SA – compare and contrast to to how much Labor pay their mates like:
Shannon’s Way,
Bruce Hawker,
Conroy’s bestie given the cushy job of head of NBN at $400k
The head of government relation for the NBN at a hiogh 6-figure salary (WTF? they ARE the government)
that ‘white witch’ woman who consults for local councils etc etc.
Costello is MUCH better value, and most likely the best candidate for the job as well.
The audit Costello is performing is not an audit, but a political process to justify some sort of putative ‘reform process’ that the LNP was too scared to put to the voters, but now they don’t have to worry about votes for the next ten years all they is need is some sort of pseudo-objective report to do what they want.
Well, given Costello would’ve been earning more than that as a barrister BEFORE spending a decade as the nation’s Treasurer, you might say he’s performing this gig as a charity do.
What do you expect from our Labor troll? This is Labor bog standard.
Moral outrage over Coaltion governments spending thousands to deflect attention from the fact Lie-Bore / Greenslime governments squander millions on subsidies and billions on green boondoggles.
is need is some sort of pseudo-objective report to do what they want.
I hope you are right. $13000 debt every man woman and child and projected to increase by about $3500 in the next 4 years. Slash and burn is needed urgently. Another ratings downgrade and we will really be in the shit.
Ok Samson, are you able to proivde an opinion on the shopping list of boondoggles that PAPACHANGO has listed or do you only able to comment on Abbott, Abbott, Abbott and Newman, Newman, Newman?
As for jobs for the boys, it’s worth remembering how the new ‘Opposition’ Leader got her job:
…was studying for admission as a solicitor when her father announced his intention to retire at the 2006 election. In the wake of her father’s retirement, Palaszczuk contested and won Labor preselection for her father’s seat of Inala in south-eastern Brisbane, the safest Labor seat in Queensland…
The audit Costello is performing is not an audit, but a political process to justify some sort of putative ‘reform process’ that the LNP was too scared to put to the voters,
I will agree that I also cannot stand all these fricking “independent” inquiries, auditors, and bullshit that Australian governments go on with. These people are elected to do the job themselves. Whenever I hear the word ‘independent’, I reach for my revolver.
And while control-printscreen lets you copy an image of what’s on your screen, which you can then paste into a paint program, if you want the whole page (even what’s not on your particular screen) without having to stitch together a number of individual printscreens, try uploadscreenshot.com
Too right. Keep watching. Ex-army engineer. Goal-oriented professional. There’s no contemporary equivalent in the sludge of Australian politics, where any shitkicker with an arts degree (or a union card) can get a job, especially on the Left.
By the by, my screencap of the deleted Random House thread was viewed/downloaded over 1500 times – how many times it was embedded & then viewed elsewhere, I wouldn’t know.
They think they’re wining, but we can beat them at this.
There you go, no need to read your local newspaper for the next few months.
Mr Newman said the decision to delay his government’s first budget until September 11 … The delay would also allow the government to consider the initial views of the financial commission of audit team headed by former Howard Government treasurer Peter Costello, he said.
The Beattie-Bligh government was one of the most lying, corrupt governments in Queensland history. They presided over the Bundaberg Hospital bloodbath, the Wivenhoe debacle, the nurse payment disaster, the Nuttal racket etc etc. It’s vital that the books, as they left them, not be believed at face value. As Australia’s best ever Treasurer, Costello brings unparalleled expertise to the task of establishing the true budgetary reality.
Troll does not refer to people who disagree with your own closed mind, although for some bizarre reason the word has semantically shifted in this direction.
Bligh won an election by deceiving the public as to her plans and announcing a neo-liberal reform package after the election.
Newman won an election by deceiving the public as to his plans and announcing a neo-liberal reform package after the election backed by the Costello report.
Plus ca change, but – yes – hiding behind Costello’s a bit of cowardly spin hardly in conformity with Newman’s can-do image.
<blockquote>But at the Sydney Writer’s Festival, no such change in the intellectual climate. Malcolm Turnbull announces a gig during which not a single conservative will be among the crowd on stage:
Join Malcolm for a panel discussion with George Megalogenis, Annabel Crabb, Virginia Trioli and Peter Hartcher, about journalism’s impact on modern politics.
I would probably agree that Abbott is playing politics with the Afghanistan withdrawal. Everybody knew we’d bail when the Americans did. The ‘stay the course’ rhetoric was always stupid; not to mention disgusting, given that our soldiers were required to go on dying until one side of Australian politics blinked.
The politics played with Iraq by Labor, of course, was far worse.
Afghanistan was the left’s Good War and they’ve now lost. Heckuva job, Obama.
An odd recent New York Times op-ed by sociologist Amy Schalet touts the rise of, as the headline puts it, “Caring, Romantic American Boys.” Schalet, who studied American high school sophomores (along with Dutch ones) for a forthcoming book, reports that “boys [are] behaving more ‘like girls’ in terms of when they lose their virginity,” by which she means they “are becoming more careful and more romantic about their first sexual experiences.”
Maybe her book will flesh out that claim, but in her op-ed the boys sound downright terrified: “American boys often said sex could end their life as they knew it. After a condom broke, one worried: ‘I could be screwed for the rest of my life.’ Another boy said he did not want to have sex yet for fear of becoming a father before his time.”
If “I could be screwed for the rest of my life” is what passes for a romantic sentiment at the New York Times, the editors’ Valentine’s Day cards must be a laugh riot.
The shadow government is forcing air travellers to get X-rays as a matter of course. The medical monopoly is arm-twisting women to get breast X-rays. They get paid for performing the X-ray from the government, the X-ray itself is carcinogenic, meaning they are creating much subsidised business for themselves by this “screening” caper.
… the exposure of X-rays that the shadow government has set up will almost definitely amount to mass-human eradication right there.
A standard jet airflight exposes passengers to roughly the same radiation as a chest x-ray if that helps.
CT scans and angiograms are considerably more.
Very briefly only multiple repetion serial CT scans – particularly of the pelvis in women of childbearing age and any abdominal xray in women pregnant less than 20 weeks are patients where great consideration need be given
Birdie responded at his blog to your comment. Frankly he thinks you’re talking crap. Here:
The doctor is full of shit. But you are lying anyway. And what is a doctor an authority on? Not health. Doctors are known for their poor health. Which part of the radiation are you (or the doctor) getting so completely fucking wrong like the moron (morons) you are.
Doctors are not authorities on health. They are authorities on finding which drugs to prescribe, and then going Ca-ching Ca-ching, and getting the government subsidy. If they were authorities on health they would all be stunningly healthy like me, rather than chronically sick like me two years ago.
Doctors are not authorities on health. They are authorities on finding which drugs to prescribe, and then going Ca-ching Ca-ching, and getting the government subsidy.
This is pretty uncontroversial. Your average suburban GP isn’t much more than a referral agent for specialists and a friendly ear.
Doctors are not authorities on health. They are authorities on finding which drugs to prescribe, and then going Ca-ching Ca-ching, and getting the government subsidy.
The plain packaging fight began today in the High Court. I love all the media melodrama about this – as if there’s any serious doubt about what our leashed poodle judges will do.
She was scathing of Iran and warned that the nuclear issue is real and dangerous. This warning was reiterated by Geoffrey Robertson, who documented the enormous and under-reported killing of atheists and religious minorities in Iran. Both challenged the atheists to do more on Islamic abuses when we are often the victims and when the heavy lifting is being done by those of Christian and Jewish faith
CL it may be off script for that gathering, but she has always said this. She also is a staunch supporter of the fact that the US is a force for freedom, which is very much off script for these microcephalic ninnies who have a genetic hatred of the US. People like that petri dish for haemorrhoids, Samson Agonistes.
Strong performance from Tim Andrews commenting on the plain packaging case.
For Christ’s sake, the first thing the ATA does is shill for the tobacco companies. The ATA, which is modelled on Americans for Tax Reform which Andrews himself has worked for, which has taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from Phillip Morris. What a joke. The ATA is DOA.
The plain packaging fight began today in the High Court. I love all the media melodrama about this – as if there’s any serious doubt about what our leashed poodle judges will do.
It will be interesting how they square the circle that they found weight in having international treaty obligations over the Malaysian plan for the boaties and the treaty obligations under the WTO in regards to protection of trade marks and copyright.
If they avoid this issue, the whole fucking lot of them need to be sacked and perhaps even answer charges over misconduct.
In the Malaysian case they found the Australian parliament didn’t have primary status to make laws without relating it our treaty obligations.
What’s wrong with representing and defending the rights of firms, which are allowed to operate legally, Monster. You need to explain that one.
Andrews has taken money from big tobacco at AfTR, so his protestations that the ATA haven’t taken big tobacco money are rather limp, particularly since it was formed about five minutes ago and big tobacco probably fund other organisations he has worked for, including the IPA. If there is nothing wrong with it then why did he take the time to deny it? Obviously he feels pressure on the issue before anyone brought it up.
He’s a classic Young Liberal type, isn’t he. Hands as smooth as a baby’s bum, no doubt.
He’s a classic Young Liberal type, isn’t he. Hands as smooth as a baby’s bum, no doubt.
You’re making it sound as though their hands are as smooth as ALP/former union reps.
So tell me, if his organization takes money from tobacco companies why would it change his opinion on the issue of trade marks? What evidence do you have that anyone taking money from tobacco firms has ever had an opinion other than the one they present?
That might be because they are in an enrichment development phase. A weapons programme wouldn’t come online until they reach a certain level of technological development. It’s a bait and switch – Iran can honestly say it doesn’t have a weapons programme. The deceit lies in their failure to add, “yet” to the declaration.
They are lying shitbags and only a Simon pure fool with a head as fat as Bob Ellis’ paunch would take anything the world’s largest sponsor of state terrorism says as being the whole truth.
Let’s say I was working in a similar role to that of Tim Andrews. What positions do you think I would change that I have expressed here over the years in order to get the money? Name one example.
You really are an imbecile and about as stupid as Bob.
Well best to take the CIA warnings with a bit of salt they are often wrong
The IAEA says someone told them that Iran might be working towards a nuclear weapon but there is no hard evidence only suspicion. Some of the last report was like kids stuff with an A4 page that some defector wrote offering to help make a bomb coming from Russia if my memory is correct and low and behold a simular “document” was found in Libya.
So every one on Q and A suffered from the delusion belief that Iran and the Iranian people needed to be punished because they have a nuclear weapons programme, and they only differed on whether violence should be used if necessary.
So where exactly were the left/balance on this panel???
No one’s saying it’s illegal, Token. It’s unethical not to disclose your funding sources if you claim to be independent of any side in a political argument in which you’re participating, but you are actually funded by one of the sides. Cash for comment was a scandal for that reason.
Is it a standard saying amongst Hamas that Israel will be eradicated to become Palestine, “min al nahr ila al bahr”? Yes. And what of the constitution of Hamas?
How in FUCK did the left end up in bed with a bunch of totalitarian death cultists? For shame, Bob, for shame.
Don’t worry about answering that JC. One of the obvious ways for M0nty’s site to make money is to let betting companies advertise, or even buy him out.
As M0nty is so pure, he would never accept one of those blighted dollars.
Let’s say I was working in a similar role to that of Tim Andrews. What positions do you think I would change that I have expressed here over the years in order to get the money? Name one example.
You’d have no credibility, though. “Here’s [name redacted], who… er… is a commodities trader, or something. Remember those two old guys in Trading Places? He’s like them pretty much, yeah. And he’s here to talk to us about… um… Nazis.”
Tim is a social sciences academic. They are not supposed to be doing straight PR on behalf of paid corporate clients. That is what you go to uni to do PR courses for. We listen to academics because they have some sort of credibility due to putting in the hard yards to research their contentions. They can back up their opinions because they have performed legitimate scientific inquiries (or are supposed to). Tim is in a grey area between the two.
Don’t worry about answering that JC. One of the obvious ways for M0nty’s site to make money is to let betting companies advertise, or even buy him out.
As M0nty is so pure, he would never accept one of those blighted dollars.
Come on M0nty, step up and back me up here.
Actually Token, I do have a policy of not accepting gambling ads on my site, and have done for years. Admittedly I did in 2008, but I changed my mind after that and have held fast to it. The demographics of my site skew way too young, it’s half school-agers. I don’t feel comfortable in advertising gambling to children. I could double my revenue overnight if I backed down, but I’m big enough now that I don’t have to.
We don’t even want them to stop their nuclear program as long as it’s supervised under the International Atomic Agency.
Who is we as there are many who do want to attack them and the nuclear program is supervised so there should not even be talk of bombing Iran according to you which I agree. If you are talking about the extra rules imposed on them they have even complied except for the not enriching uranium but what Iran says it objects to is not having the right to enrich uranium themselves. This is a rule that has been put on only one country in the world so if this was done to Australia for example I am sure we would tell the world to get f’ed.
Actually Token, I do have a policy of not accepting gambling ads on my site, and have done for years. Admittedly I did in 2008, but I changed my mind after that and have held fast to it.
Monster, don’t piss me off with your bullshit. Even I would do the same thing and you know how much of a shit I give about gambling in the sense of none at all…. no controls.
Your decision wasn’t based on altruism but self interest due concerns over accusations because of the young demographic your dog’s breakfast of a site attracts.
Do you really think people are stupid here Monster? FFS.
Fair enough M0nty, I won’t argue if you are standing by your principles on that.
Token, don’t fall for that bullshit, man. The site attracts teenage boys etc.
All it would take is one “concerned mother” of a young teenage punk going on ACA and calling for a ban on advertising on sites like Monsters and he would be getting bad publicity.
He’s just being self interested here. Monster’s a leftie and he disguises his self interest with platitudinous crapola.
I’d do eggsactly the same thing if I was running that stupid site.
m0nty’s policy isn’t very unusual. A lot of websites restrict the kinds of ads they run, refusing to advertise gambling or adult sites. Google, for example.
It’s a business decision. Sure, you could make more money in the short run but you might wreck the business model in the process. As with JC, I’d probably restrict those ads too.
I’ll wager I have 100 times more Palestinian friends than you, Bob, so yes I may engage in discussion of it with them. Participation? No, that would be too pretentious, and the act of a cultural carpet bagger such as yourself
So Sturmabteilung’s a a mysogenist, violence-against-women approving bigoted Jew-baiting anti-semitic racist conspiracy theorist.
Having openly admitted using dishonest tactics in debate, allegedly learned from “the left”, what actual message are you trying to communicate here?
At face value, your comment is unhinged garbage. But perhaps in view of your self-acknowledged desire to lie and manipulate, because “they do it too”, perhaps it makes some sense.
I’m normally a big hung over on 15 may after celebrating Yom Ha’atzmaut on the 14th. Australia. after all, proudly played a very positive role when the United nations created Israel.
Pity we did not do more to help when the local savages decided to launch a war of unprovoked aggression against the infant Israeli state, but hey, the savages only outnumbered that civilised people 15:1 so of course they got beaten like a drum.
My only regret is that the Israelis did not dynamite the mosque on the site of their ancient temple so they could rebuild one of the most important buildings of the ancient world.
I can just see Bob now, putting on a blue keffiyeh. Like those awful pics of James Cameron in war paint mugging with the Amazonian Indians. Dilettante.
QG, I think it is true so far as New Atheists are concerned. Think of the Four Horsemen, each to a man, is/ was anti-Christian, through-and-through. I bet all of the ‘comedians’ Dick Gross referred to were, to a man (and woman), anti-Christian.
That would be a reference to the Thommo-confident government trying to ban the commercial rights of legal firms, based on ‘morality.’ The same government, come to think of it, that corruptly nobbled a tender process for television rights.
JC if you be there, sorry i said you be nasty yesterday you probably didn’t notice but i did, and it was not at all appropriate thing to say, my apologies.
So, does that mean you refuse to not stop responding to me?
Or that you, as usual, have shithouse reading comprehension and are for some reason refusing not to stop not responding, which you have incidentally never done?
How strange, FDB! You and the denizens of LP never complained about these tactics when using them on left-wing sites.
I wonder why you think they are ‘dishonest’ now?
The shoe pinches when it’s on the other foot, doesn’t it, diddums?
You can dry your eyes, now, Princess.
and an unhinged dickhead, on the basis of which we can conclude Samson has no case to answer.
Sturmabteilung is a head case: after all, he’s a leftist who by the tenor of his own posts (‘apartheid wall’ etc etc) loathes Jews and seems to support the terrorists who want to kill them.
Or do you read his posts differently?
What a strange world you inhabit.
Queensland is a bit odd, I do have to say.
But I’m sure you’ve “won” in some sense… say, one which can be established by “consensus” – the last refuge of the damned.
What a peculiar perception you have, FDB. I am baiting and teasing a jew-hating, bigoted, mysogenist left-wing troll who posts here purely to troll.
JC if you be there, sorry i said you be nasty yesterday you probably didn’t notice but i did, and it was not at all appropriate thing to say, my apologies.
Never invest money in leftist shitholes like Argentina as they will steal it from you.
JC
Interesting choice of words. Does this include Australia whenever the ALP is in charge as they effectively planned a 40% nationalisation of all mineral extraction at one stage with no compensation? Lucky the plan failed.
What they found startled them. As in other industrially advanced countries, income inequality in the United States fell after World War II, a period that economic historians call the “Great Compression,” and remained stable through much of the 1970s.
But then inequality started increasing again, with the top 1 percent of earners drawing a bigger and bigger share of overall income. Their graph showing the trend became well-known: a deep U, with inequality as acute today as it was just before the depression.
As social welfare increased so did inequality, go figure.
Goes to show social welfare is a failure and should be drastically wound back.
brisbanetimes.com.au can reveal the government has agreed to pay Mr Costello $3300 per day, plus GST, as he heads up the commission of audit examining the state of the books.
That is a heck of a lot less than he would get on the speaking circuit.
So it could be argued that he is taking a pay cut to work for the people, very honourable that.
At the height of the AGW scam, a conference industry contact told me that Flannery got $45,000-$55,000 per gig, one hour speaking, one hour on a panel.
First class airfare, 5 star hotel and all other expenses paid.
He is currently getting $180,000 per annum for 120 days work per annum, but all (business class) travel time is included in that and he gets per diem, so it’s not like he actually has to produce something, like Costello has to.
brisbanetimes.com.au can reveal the government has agreed to pay Mr Costello $3300 per day, plus GST
Good old Fairfax, holding the government to account when nobody else will. Why, look at their take-no-prisoners reporting of the disastrous Gillard government.
That’s a lot of money. But consulting rates are higher than salaries, as there are more hidden costs. (a simple example is that you have to do all your own accounting whereas a 9 to 5′er has all that taken care of by the employer).
Shorter FDB: ‘Using standard leftie tactics to counter left-wing trolls is something I can’t understand and think is unfair’
Riiiiiiight.
No Mark, no.
Tarring me (and others) with the lovingly preserved toilet brush of your every encounter with lefties who made you feel bad, and trying thereby to avoid simple questions about what you are currently trying to say, is not so much unfair as simply lame.
At the height of the AGW scam, a conference industry contact told me that Flannery got $45,000-$55,000 per gig, one hour speaking, one hour on a panel.
Exactly a few grand a day is chump change, you’d be lucky to get a partner in a medium size professional firm for that in Brisbane, let along Mel or Syd.
Employing Costello at what really is ‘mates rates’ is a good political weapon at state level, brings Costello back into the attack on the ALP’s economic management ‘expertise’ at federal level (Dammit CraigS stop laughing… ah hell with it go ahead as I am laughing at that idea too) and takes away much of the ‘partisan sting’ at state level too.
We know the ALP in QLD were braindead squandermonkeys and that expenditures have to be slashed.
This is a very smart way to make a sober assessment and take it to the people. And nobody can say he does not have a mandate to fix QLD’s finances.
I am seeing ample evidence here that there is blind panic in the QLD public service. Many areas did not even have transition briefs for the new Ministers!
That’s a lot of money. But consulting rates are higher than salaries, as there are more hidden costs. (a simple example is that you have to do all your own accounting whereas a 9 to 5′er has all that taken care of by the employer).
The last electrician I had in took 20 minutes to put a light in and charged $100. Fairfax will be screaming about the greedy electricians making $12,000 a week next.
Apparently Fairfax and its readers are staffed exclusively by people still living with their parents who earn $50 a day at KFC.
Okay Mark, I freely admit that’s a low point in my punning career.
If “teazing” is all you’re doing though, wy would you expect SA to be perturbed? Surely you have actual arguments against his (and who knows, even my!) actual arguments.
Seriously, FDB, look at Sturmabteilung’s posts, or Maxie the Squealboy’s, or Les the racist kiddie’s (perhaps the only apparent Stormfront fan ever to post here), or Handy Spanker’s, or Bird or those of the other blatant left-wing partisan trolls who commonly befoul the site.
There are no actual arguments being placed because there’s no coherence whatsoever. it’s trolling.
I happen to enjoy countering them using (quite genuine I assure you) tactics learned on left to far left sites over many years. They hate these tactics, and that amuses me.
One lesson those sites also taught me is that the left-winger who will actually engage in genuine civil discourse where actual arguments are not dismissed out of hand and partisan parroting substituted is indeed a rara avis.
You and Katz are exactly 50% of the total number I have noticed since 2004. Rara avis indeed.
I am stating a bald truth when I say we have studied this extensively, for professional reasons I will not discuss here. Knowing that a ‘target’ mind (not Australian left-wingers – others) processes information in a similar manner makes this study valuable. One can learn how they can form lacunae in how they process and even perceive data. That is a very interesting weakness and can be exploited – very much to their detriment.
And now, to the books! This PhD won’t write itself (doing this part-time sucks…)
If John H is around, I’d love to ask his opinion on Co-q10 supplements for people on statins… My mother was on Lipitor, but after increasing “vagueness”, switched to some other anti-cholesterol drug (don’t remember which). I now hear that statins can reduce Co-q10, and it occurs to me, this may be a factor of apparent side-effects… then again, it could just be that she’s getting older?
My mother was on Lipitor, but after increasing “vagueness”, switched to some other anti-cholesterol drug (don’t remember which).
You left out a key piece of information. namely, did your mother’s vagueness go away?
If so, I’d really like to know what the “other anti-cholesterol drug” was.
No, I personally believe it got worse, though she doesn’t seem so sure.
She did go off them entirely for two months because she was concerned, but cholesterol shot up too much, so her doctor prescribed an alternative… it was only when I was looking into other stuff that I stumbled across this possible connection.
I believe I followed a series of links after someone posted a TED lecture by Dr Terry Wahls… I took a lot of what she said with a grain of salt, but the stuff about mitochondria piqued my interest, and I followed on from there. The CoQ10 stuff seems quite valid, and though the connection between statins and reduced CoQ10 has been established, nobody seems to have made the link between the all-too-common reported side-effect of “vagueness”. Even I dismissed it as old age – that people on these drugs were just getting old… but reading up, it’s like a light-switch went off, and so I wanted to hear if John knew anything.
Daddy, In my opinion, Lipitor is a dumb drug designed by lawyers to avoid litigation. It can be excrutiatingly painful and lowers cholesterol by introducing very big side-effects in the musculature. It is prescribed to lower cholesterol even in healthy people. I would like to hear what James and other GPs think about it.
“I am seeing ample evidence here that there is blind panic in the QLD public service. Many areas did not even have transition briefs for the new Ministers!
never seen anything like it.”
By “transition briefs” MK, I assume you mean incoming government briefs? I am sure they were prepared, but they would have been done under the previous super departments and thus dumbed down/cpmpressed to be relevant to all the multiple ministers that the super department was subject to. Anything not considered high level didn’t make the cut, and of course now that departments are functionally aligned what wasn’t considered high level for a super department is relevant to a specific portfolio. In other words the super departments sucked.
What appears to be happening now of course is that a large number of newborn ministers, with non existent or green staff, aren’t in a position to know what they don’t know, let alone the unknown unknowns. And it seems they are preferring external advice (poor Sir Humphrey). This may of course, be to their detriment if some lobbyist thinks they heard whatever it is they wanted to hear, and causes some sort of stink.
Amusingly, there is also sections of the QPS that have not heard, or accepted, that the government has changed, and seem to believe that what their new Ministers want can’t happen, because it isn’t consistent with the policy (or to be frank, the officer’s views). LOL.
“I think Minister X just doesn’t like his department!”
It is prescribed to lower cholesterol even in healthy people.
My Dad had fine Chol levels… then had a stroke, and is now in Lipitor. I now hear that this lowers CoQ10, and furthermore, that low CoQ10 levels can contribute to hardening of the arteries!
I’ve checked with my Doc. These statins are very good drugs. There’s a lot of negative stuff about them but they do work well for most people.. not all, but nearly all.
You just need a liver test every six months to ensure it’s functioning okay without adverse effects from the statins.
That’s what I do as I have a family history of high cholesterol and knew about since I was in my 30′s.
I take Krestor and it’s fine. Everyone should stop panicking.
Swan’s campaign to turning to class warfare to rally the working class against the rich in a 1950′s class struggle died like all his stupid ideas…
…but the consequences of his hate continues to rebound on him and this stupid givernment:
ANDREW Forrest has accused Wayne Swan of “almost an act of racism” in turning Australians against each other, in the latest exchange of hostile words between big miners and the federal treasurer.
The Fortescue Metals Group chairman also accused Mr Swan of trying to make it a crime to organise and collect capital.
Remember who Forest was willing to work with?
“He had just politically assassinated his closest colleague, Kevin Rudd. It would have stayed in the news for a long time.
I was in a rush to get out and didn’t read your crap properly. Yes, of course I’ll continue to respond.
Can I just advise you that you’re really overcompensating on the tough guy image bit. There’s an art if you’re not naturally that way inclined and of course you’re now. You don’t quite have it and frankly never will.
Candy.
Yes, you were very very rude yesterday and I didn’t quite know how to handle it except in silence and mental anguish. Sad really. Very sad. Lol
You can’t on the one hand admit openly that you’re just being a trolly douchebag and simultaneously claim something else.
If you want to admit, as you seem to want to admit, that I’m serious in my efforts here, then why do you never have any serious responses for me? Why just the same bullshit you give to everyone else you disagree with?
It’s hard to take you as seriously as you seem to want me to take you.
Maybe, JC – I wasn’t suggesting she stop taking them – just that she may need CoQ10 supplements in conjunction.
I always suspected there was *something* causing a mental side effect, but wasn’t sure if it was just a fact that people taking them were generally older (and getting more so), which would of course result in a correlation between medication and said symptoms… BUT, if it is related to CoQ10 loss, then a supp would actually be an easy fix.
i’m thinking a lot depends on the age of Fleeced’s mum and any other possible neurological disorders that come naturally with age.
Only the appropriate specialist can advise. i reckon get an appropriate referral for your mum Fleeced to sort matters out. it’s hard being in the dark, only the doctors can sort it. trust in the medicos.
Listen to the docs. Don’t accept crap on the web or try and make up your mind by yourself. Most of them do know what they are talking about even if only peddling the stuff their professional colleagues are saying. They are all pretty well trained. You start getting into trouble when you go all Birdian and become a Doc yourself.
I always suspected there was *something* causing a mental side effect, but wasn’t sure if it was just a fact that people taking them were generally older (and getting more so),
Okay, but lets say they do cause older people to become a tad hazier. What’s worse though, losing a little memory which can be compensated for in some ways or having a stroke that ends up killing you, which will cause material memory loss?
i’m thinking a lot depends on the age of Fleeced’s mum and any other possible neurological disorders that come naturally with age.
This is the problem I have… I’d always dismissed complaints about Lipitor on these exact grounds.
Like JC, I’ve always trusted the docs. I’ve always had “faith” (for want of a better word) in the scientific process. This has changed over recent years… I’m still “pro-science” and “anti-alternative medicine”, but I’ve learned that things aren’t quite as clear cut as I’d like. That some of the processes aren’t quite that scientific, and that the links aren’t always so clear (Eg, Both AGW and the “Food pyramid” are both committee-based BS rather than real science)
There was a really interesting story in New Yorker a while back about a new drug to treat some serious mental illness. Anyways the drug was trialed and went through all the hoops. There was nothing the pharma company did wrong.
And then after it was intro’ed some real serious shit happened with it.. can’t recall what exactly.
They went through the clinical trial material, re-trialed or some crap and came to the conclusion that the first trial itself was a bad cluster. A statistical fluke.
What’s worse though, losing a little memory which can be compensated for in some ways or having a stroke that ends up killing you, which will cause material memory loss?
Sure… but does it have to be a choice? That’s why I want more info on CoQ10.
Fleeced, Daddy, Lipitor probably does work as an anti-cholesterol drug. It’s just a matter of how much crap you want to put up with in your body. As I say, it’s a drug designed to avoid litigation. The whole medical industry, from GPs to drug researchers, are now involved in litigation avoidance. When in doubt, prescribe.
(Eg, Both AGW and the “Food pyramid” are both committee-based BS rather than real science)
Look I agree Fleeced. I think the AGW scaremongering and brazen hysteria has really sent science back a little. However I really think that the FDA, although slow and elephant-in-a-Chinashop like does make decent decisions.
Leaving aside for the moment that most lawyers are rightwing, and most of the parliamentary Liberal party is made up of lawyers… I’m a musician as it happens. A drummer no less – even among musos I’m famously dumb!
So why not demonstrate would should be easy – that you are smarter than me?
The Wall Street journal rats on them all the time for being slow like a tortoise and that it’s stupidly stubborn in not allowing people to try drugs that have not met certain stages of approval even if they are near terminal.
I think it’s a fairly professional department though, IT.
Most sons are, Candy… but when the hard-nosed skeptic runs into reality, they start thinking twice. And since I’m also a libertarian, I also start wondering why I trusted the word of government organisations in the first place. Can I really call myself a skeptic when following their advice so blindly?
Indeed… people say low carb is a fad? It was around long before the food pyramid… the pyramid is a fad, just government endorsed – and no real science behind it.
Zombie Scottish musician who talks like a pinko mutant lawyer. The hell have we bred, here, Houston??? Put it back in the goddamn bottle. PUT IT BACK OR I’LL SHOOT!!!
And since I’m also a libertarian, I also start wondering why I trusted the word of government organisations in the first place
There’s no real meat in this. In other words there’s no big funding potential if they juice up the results one way or another.
I think the private market and less cover one’s arse with personal responsibility would greatly help the process and speed it up, however the FDA isn’t bad overall.
This is not like modeling future weather changes. They do work on pretty decent concrete data and apply the science method.
The market and the legal system should be the judge of all drugs and foods, not some stinking shiny bum bureau boys.
Look if the process was privatized and I’m for it, it wouldn’t look much different in terms of the examination and trialing drugs. the process could be sped up of course
Indeed… people say low carb is a fad? It was around long before the food pyramid… the pyramid is a fad, just government endorsed – and no real science behind it.
You’re confusing the dept of health and the FDA. They aren’t the same thing, although the FDA is an agency and likely reports to the FDA.
Take the CSIRO for instance. Not all of it is bad. The shit they do in terms of agricultural science is pretty much okay while the climate stuff is just fucking appalling.
“Most sons are, Candy… but when the hard-nosed skeptic… ” etc
well don’t you pose some questions!
it’s about your mother and appropriate medical treatment for what she needs at this stage, it’s not about you or your philosphies (i can’t even spell that). it’s about what she requires.
At any rate, I just wanted to hear John H’s advice on whether the apparent reduction in CoQ10 in people on statins could account for reported side-effects, and whether supplements could help… I respect his knowledge on these matters.
Nonetheless, I believe the FDA is responsible for many deaths (more than AGW, that’s for sure!)
Drugs are seriously risky though. People think that they aren’t. But there is risk with them and in big populations we will see the risk ooze out at some stage.
However I really think that the FDA, although slow and elephant-in-a-Chinashop like does make decent decisions
The principal criticism of the FDA is that it crushes innovation.
Only big pharam can afford the painfullly slow and hoop filled pathway to clinical evaluation and aproval and thus the process itself kills competition.
Its just another example of Big Gov/Big Business love-in where big business backs the business-killing policies of big government.
Juast look at the reaction of BHP, Rio and Xstrata to the MRRT whilst the small and medium miners – real Australian miners opposed it.
ALl that is pretty true James and the big government, big pharma thing has become a bit of a problem.
However I still think the drugs do get through though although the process is slowed down somewhat. That’s what I was saying about the Wall Street Journal’s frequent attacks on the FDA.
As I see the small pharmas are still out there working on new stuff and their hope is that once they hit a certain point in the process big pharma ends up buying them.
So big pharma has become basically a conduit for new stuff coming on the market.
I’m not disagreeing with on the slowness of the FDA, but I don’t think it prevents the good stuff eventually getting through.
Mk50 is good you let him ramble on just let him think he is winning then he is happy. He is a very emotional fellow and seems to think this is some sort of battle field. It is actually better not to win arguements with him if you are like me and want to hear what he has to say. Because if you beat him too much he will stop talking and start raving on about so called leftie tactics and how he uses them too or just general abuse. Despite my thinking being a lot different to his on many issues I am curious to know why he thinks the way he does. If he reads this comment he might talk to me less though.
I really can’t believe that with all this news out of Europe I’ve actually lost fucking money shorting the Euro. I just can’t get my head it and why it’s still holding above 1.300 to the US dollar. The amount of future QE’ing they will have to do is enormous, possibly another trillion or more whereas the US may be about done or that’s how people perceive it.
This is my 3rd try since Friday now.
This shithole of a currency belongs at 1:1 with the US dollar if not even lower.
Mk50 is good you let him ramble on just let him think he is winning then he is happy. He is a very emotional fellow and seems to think this is some sort of battle field. It is actually better not to win arguements with him if you are like me and want to hear what he has to say. Because if you beat him too much he will stop talking and start raving on about so called leftie tactics and how he uses them too or just general abuse. Despite my thinking being a lot different to his on many issues I am curious to know why he thinks the way he does. If he reads this comment he might talk to me less though.
Dude, shut up!!!
Although I think he knows all this, and still can’t stop his bone-headed rinse and repeat.
Kelly. It would be great if you could learn to spell ‘argument’.
Kelly,
when there’s a red line under a word, just right click on it and let the program choose the word for you. If you get more than one option, just guess which word it is. We’ll understand.
This shithole of a currency belongs at 1:1 with the US dollar if not even lower.
Whatever is going on is not rational. Just like in sports betting markets, it’s dumb money versus smart money and the winner is the punter who consistently backs the overs.
At present, no drug can reach the market without FDA approval. That approval is explicitly limited to the specific indications that have been subjected to exhaustive clinical tests, which usually take around seven years to complete, typically at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. Yet once a drug reaches the market, the FDA has no statutory power to “limit or interfere with the authority of a health-care practitioner to prescribe” how physicians use that drug to treat their patients.
Thus drugs licensed by FDA for one purpose are deployed for a second “off label” use on which clinical trials have not been run or, if run, not completed. These uses are neither fragmentary nor episodic. In 2008, Mark Ratner and Trisha Gura reported in Nature that estimates for off-label use of cancer drugs run from 50% to 70% of total usage, and perhaps higher.
There is ample reason for this extensive off-label use. Cancer patients are often in desperate straits
Whatever is going on is not rational. Just like in sports betting markets, it’s dumb money versus smart money and the winner is the punter who consistently backs the overs.
There’s a veru intructive lesson on this in the traders bible, a book written by a trader in the 20′s called
“Reminiscence of a stock operator.”
It’s a wonderful book. It’s a thinly disguised bio on a famous trader of the time… Jesse Livermore.
Anyways the fucker (Jesse) went into the 30′s as negative as all hell and lost all his money. He lost it because corrections a bear market with the government and shit all working against stocks from falling causes huge spikes against the trend.
Jesse didn’t follow his own rules and ended up blowing his brains out in the toilet of the Pierre Hotel in NYC.
JC, I’d say you’re right rationally, but there is a lot of emotion, especially fear, driving the currency desks. Everyone gets the shit kicked out of them if Europe goes through the chute.
It would also be great if he wasn’t another know it all, Israel hating cab driver.
Cab driver ok but I haven’t made any comment about Israel today. Only comment I made was that the deputy PM of Israel says that Amedinejad did not say wipe Israel out. If anyone did bother to look at the whole interview he also goes on to say that Iran might be thinking about nuclear weapons. I don’t dispute this, in fact that is a balanced view given the information.
Have you upgraded Firefox? Perhaps it’s an old computer.
Computer is fairly new and unless the computer tells me to upgrade something I don’t. You will have to put up with my less than perfect spelling. Wait until they put grammar check, if I ever got that it would take half an hour to post a comment.
Anyways the fucker (Jesse) went into the 30′s as negative as all hell and lost all his money. He lost it because corrections a bear market with the government and shit all working against stocks from falling causes huge spikes against the trend.
Surely the lesson then, is that when the shit’s really hitting the fan, you can’t even make money shorting, because of all the unpredictability and also government interference.
I admit sometimes I say things just to stir some people up even if I don’t 100% believe it myself. I do mean it about the dollar though but timing is impossible.
Surely the lesson then, is that when the shit’s really hitting the fan, you can’t even make money shorting, because of all the unpredictability and also government interference.
The guys that made billions shorting the sub-prime crisis were extremely worried their “bets” would be worthless if everything collapsed. Luckily Uncle Sam came to the rescue.
Just for Samson. The nfms you want to hold up as some sort of right wing leader is self taught via wikipedia.
The corner (AP) Anders Breivik Behring said he has studied 15,000 hours, but can not think of any books he has read.
watch the video
See video Commentator Anders Giaever: – Prosecutors talk to Breivik with children’s voice
AP follows
Terrorist attacks on 22 July – The trial
Breivik estimates that about 70 percent of what he has read from the internet, while 30 percent are regular books.
Much of what he has studied online, articles on Wikipedia, he admits.
- I have read everything from the history books for Wikipedia. I have used Wikipedia most. The English articles are incredibly rich, black Breivik Engh when asked how he obtained all the knowledge from.
In Breivik’s manifest, there are several passages that are cut straight from articles on Wikipedia.
Surely the lesson then, is that when the shit’s really hitting the fan, you can’t even make money shorting, because of all the unpredictability and also government interference.
The real lesson is never ever get married to a idea without having set limit in the amount of capital you can afford to lose on an idea.
Secondly it’s market dynamics stupid.
But really it about managing capital…. always.
Look dad, in reality my wins to losses are probably 50/50. However my capital win to lose ratio is pretty decent at around 3.8 to 1. That’s because I’m a real pussy with losses and a total pig with gains.
The guys that made billions shorting the sub-prime crisis were extremely worried their “bets” would be worthless if everything collapsed. Luckily Uncle Sam came to the rescue.
Yea and timing as their contract were essentially options and they had an expiry date.
The book was great. I was laughing out loud about those two idiots bumbling around the market not knowing what was going on deciding to short the market because it was a good idea as someone told them… and walking away with $500 million. No one gave them any respect, even when they made money
However my capital win to lose ratio is pretty decent at around 3.8 to 1.
JC
That is really good. That is why I am an investor not a trader as it is said 80% lose money trading (at least day trading anyway). I tried day trading for about a week and lost a sizable amount of money for me so thought better not to try that again. How long do you hold a stock on average would you think and do you have stocks that you do not trade?
Was that the Doc, IT. He was a really really smart guy. Doctor Michael Burry? He had aspergers and communicated with his wife by email, which at times I think is not a bad idea to communicate with any woman, as that way there’s no lying, or going back about what was said. I may suggest that to wifey in the morning.
I think, if done properly, it could be a really good movie. Those two jokers that almost couldn’t get set in their trades because the I-banks didn’t take them seriously would be very funny in a well done movie.
We always used to get stupid calls from people wanting to do deals with us and it was just some joker from his basement.
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One time, this was after the 1st gulf war, this idiot called in and said he had say a truck load of Iraqi dinar in cash he wanted to sell us. I told him we had 30 pallets of the stuff we could sell him for 100 bucks if he wanted. Then there were all these idiots calling about some scheme they had cooked up like getting dollars into north korea and shit.
The gold deals were always the best. Some moron would call and say he had a few tons of gold to sell us at a huge discount to the market and were we interested. But we first had to credit his account with dollars.
The gold deals were always the best. Some moron would call and say he had a few tons of gold to sell us at a huge discount to the market and were we interested. But we first had to credit his account with dollars.
Are you serious? So the Nigerian scam was even tried on real bankers.
Are you serious? So the Nigerian scam was even tried on real bankers.
Oh yea, about once a week or so, some doofus would call saying he had a ton of glold t sell at a huge discount.
One fucker pretended he was trying to sell president Marcos gold stash.
They tried anything.
There was one famous case where some dude pretending he was a large firm photocopied, literally copy and pasted bank of America’s annual accounts under a false companky name and wanted a credit limit to deal.
The credit office of the bank knew the balance sheet immediately as BofA’s and called the FBI.
More things that you might have wanted to know about turnips but were too afraid to ask.
Brassica napus and B. napobrassica are called swedes (a shortening of Swedish turnip) in England, especially in the South, and in most dialects of the Commonwealth. Rutabaga, from the Swedish rotabagga, for “root bag” is mostly used in North America, in the United States and Canada. The rutabaga or swede differs from the turnip (Brassica rapa) in that it is typically larger and yellow-orange rather than white.[citation needed]
However, in some dialects of British English the two vegetables have overlapping or reversed names. In the north of England and Scotland, the larger, yellow rutabagas are called neeps or turnips from folk etymology, while the smaller white turnips are called swedes.[
The Left’s hero. One piece of filth cosies up to another.
JULIAN Assange‘s new talk show has premiered on the Kremlin’s English-language satellite broadcaster, its opening episode featuring an interview with Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
Refers to Nasrallah as “extraordinary” and the “interview” is basically a right old Israel-bashing performance.
Absolutely fucking unbelievable.
America is really becoming fascist.
Does anyone else find it reprehensible, aside from me, that Congress is suing Roger Clemens for a second time for perjury, regarding steroids? These fucking lunatics have nothing else to do than fuck around with professional athletes, yet how many bankersters are still on the loose enjoying life? If convicted, Clemens faces 30 FUCKING YEARS IN PRISON. Also, did you know there is a bill in Congress that will restrict travel for anyone who owes the IRS money? Say hello to the full fledged, in your face, version of authoritarianism in America.
The WikiLeaks founder has promised that his guests have told him things they “could not say on a mainstream TV network.”
Autistic psychopath gameboy hacker becomes attention-seeking financial whore. And the cocksucking Australian journalism industry gave him a hero’s award, another reason why this nation’s media is incapable of the truth and can never be trusted again.
I am stating a bald truth when I say we have studied this extensively, for professional reasons I will not discuss here. Knowing that a ‘target’ mind (not Australian left-wingers – others) processes information in a similar manner makes this study valuable. One can learn how they can form lacunae in how they process and even perceive data. That is a very interesting weakness and can be exploited – very much to their detriment.
The douchiest paragraph ever to appear on the Internet, courtesy of the Papa Troll, Iq49.
The scary thing is that he might actually be correct in his intimation that the bulk of ASIO and ASIS’ intelligence gathering consists of trolling LP.
I read another column somewhere about Romney sticking his dog on top of the car and driving at 80 MPH for 8 or so hours. He talked about how much the dog loved it.
I am not against statins per se but the refusal to recommend a COQ10, a very safe supplement with a statin is silly. Whether or not cholesterol levels in themselves constitute a risk is a difficult question. Triglycerides, CRP values, systemic inflammation, lipo A, levels may be just as important. I have read many cardiologists who have expressed doubts about the over prescribing of statins. Of course they don’t get a voice. What most people don’t know is that our brains produce their own supply of cholesterol and this is impacted by statin drugs.
Statin drugs are life savers but that doesn’t mean they will save everyone.
CONCLUSION: In patients intolerant to statin therapy due to myalgia or other
muscular adverse effects, strategies such as alternative statin dosing schedules,
coenzyme Q10 or vitamin D supplementation, and conversion to RYR or an
alternative statin may allow some patients to continue to receive the benefits of
lipid-lowering therapy.
Effects of atorvastatin on heart mitochondrial function and coenzyme Q content in
the experiment.
Kucharska J, Ulicna O, Gvozdjakova A, Vancova O, Waczulikova I, Bozek P, Bada V.
Pharmacobiochemical Laboratory of Third Department of lnternal Medicine, Faculty
of Medicine, Comenius University, Bratislava, Slovakia. [email protected]
We focused on determination of whether atorvastatin: 1) reduces CoQ content, 2)
impairs mitochondrial function and 3) induces dose-dependent changes. Although
the high dose of atorvastatin exerted a beneficial effect on the lipid
peroxidation in plasma, coenzyme Q content was reduced and heart mitochondrial
function was impaired. Physicians should be aware when prescribing statins mainly
in higher doses to the patients with co-existing proved or supposed CoQ10
deficiency resulting from age-related decline, and metabolic or mitochondrial
diseases (Ref. 3).
I assume you lot on here have been up in arms today about the revelation Peter Costello is being paid $3,300 a day of tax-payers money by his Qld govt mates?
The $3300-a-day rate to be charged by Peter Costello reviewing Queensland’s finances may sound like a lot to struggling families, but the investment is worth it, Premier Campbell Newman says.
This morning, brisbanetimes.com.au revealed the former federal treasurer was set to earn more than $140,000 in his new job examining the state’s finances for the new Liberal National Party government.
The government has agreed to pay Mr Costello $3300 per day, plus GST, as he heads up the commission of audit examining the state of the books.
Sdog, from the link it appears that the Swedish feminists started by taking a slice out of the pubic region of the cake, in solidarity no doubt with Sweden’s growing migrant community.
“According to sources Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth was invited to declare festivities open by performing a clitoridectomy on the cake, which she did by removing the cake woman’s labiums.”
Speaking of stupid people, these despicable thugs hate taxpayers but hate Abbott even more. An act of pure spite:
THE Gillard government has moved to ‘’Abbott-proof’’ its Clean Energy Finance Corporation by ‘’appropriating’’ the full $10 billion five-year budget in legislation to be passed this year.
The move means the corporation could continue lending to clean energy projects at the rate of $2 billion a year, making it difficult for a future Abbott government to repeal the legislation setting it up. It would also pave the way for another parliamentary showdown over climate change, alongside the carbon tax, as a future Coalition government would likely face a hostile Senate.
First-hand testimony on this thread suggests that statins attack the public purse, your wallet, your brain, and your liver. Don’t some of you feel an obligation to try and get your relatives off this poisonous side-show elixer?
Economics not her forte. New Greens leader Christine Milne on ABC1′s 7.30 on Monday:
WE are now the fourth most unequal developed economy in the world.
From the OECD report Growing Income Inequality in OECD Countries, Figure 5, page 11, May 2 last year:
COUNTRIES as unequal as Australia: Japan, New Zealand. Countries more unequal: Canada, Italy, Estonia, UK, Israel, US, Portugal, Poland, Turkey, Mexico, Chile.
Finance Minister Penny Wong in The Australian Financial Review last Thursday:
RED tape frustrates all business owners . . . Removing unnecessary regulation is not something that will be achieved by mouthing slogans or throwing around savings numbers without any detail . . . reducing regulatory burden is a key element of the government’s productivity agenda.
From Greg Combet’s website:
THE Minister for Industry and Innovation, Greg Combet, said the Government would: Extend Australian Industry Participation requirements to projects funded by Australian Government grants of more than $20 million. Increase scrutiny of the implementation of Australian Industry Participation Plans (AIP Plans), particularly for private sector projects valued at more than $2 billion that seek tariff concessions from the Enhanced Project By-law Scheme (EPBS); Require major projects to publish summaries of AIP Plans, including details on how they will seek and use information on Australian industry capabilities. . .
They most definitely want to shut everyone up: the latest Gillard edict on public servants commenting.
First they made it illegal for public servants to discuss the government programs they are implementing to the media. That legislation has been used to chase down people reporting on the detention centre riots and scandals on Chris Bowen’s watch.
Of course the people started releasing the information via pseudonyms, so our totalitarian government has now issued this edict.
“Richard Epstein, WSJ:
Cancer Patients Deserve Faster Access to Life-Saving Drugs
Companies should be able to promote all uses of their drugs that are reliably shown to be effective….”
Its not as if cancer is a disease of drug-deficiency. So nothing much is likely to be lost by these delays. The FDA delays aren’t there to establish safety. They are for the drug companies to keep profits up on the drugs they already have.
TREASURY has launched an investigation into why it has been overestimating company tax revenue, with forecasts of the government’s tax shortfall rising ahead of next month’s budget.
The soft company tax revenue suggests the shortfall will be worse than indicated by monthly Finance Department figures and means the 2011-12 budget deficit is increasingly likely to rise from a forecast $37.1 billion to about $40bn.
m0nty’s policy isn’t very unusual. A lot of websites restrict the kinds of ads they run, refusing to advertise gambling or adult sites. Google, for example.
It’s a business decision. Sure, you could make more money in the short run but you might wreck the business model in the process. As with JC, I’d probably restrict those ads too.
It is unusual in the industry I’m in, though, dd. Every other Web site of any size whatsoever has aligned themselves with one of the gambling outlets, in many cases doing special promotions tied to blog content or competitions. There are deals to not only give affiliate revenue for signing up new gambling customers, but actually sharing in the profits on those customers so that you get more money for signing up problem gamblers who lose big amounts. I think I’m the only one in my market sector to take this stance, apart from North Melbourne FC after their sponsorship by World Vision a month or two ago.
“Mr Shorten said the vehicle builders’ union would be aware if Toyota had breached its industrial agreement under the redundancy notification provisions.
“As a general rule of thumb you are always better off taking the volunteers, the ones who want to go, you’re better off letting go and the ones who want to stay, you are better off keeping on.”
But the minister said he did not know the full mix of skills and business Toyota required.
The number of days of sick leave taken by employees should not be grounds for selecting workers, he said.”
“What’s crazy is that Toyota has gone to huge lengths already to do its 350 layoffs properly. It’s got the unions’ approval of the process, briefed Ministers such as Bill Shorten and Wayne Swan beforehand, and paid big money in redundancy payments:
The Altona Agreement, made with the union in 2011, provides for redundancy packages of up to 84 weeks’ pay, plus unused leave entitlements, for workers who “propose themselves” to management for “voluntary redundancy”. For the average long-serving employee this amount could be between $150,000 and $250,000.”
Government propping up car company with no ROI for taxpayers. It’s been done before and the result is the same. They’ll never learn.
“THE Rudd government will give Toyota $35 million to produce hybrid Camry vehicles at its Altona plant in Melbourne, the prime minister Kevin Rudd announced.”
Bill Shorten again on Toyota’s treatment of the redundant workers:
“But the more sympathetically it can be delivered, obviously the easier it is for people when they’re losing their jobs.”
Toyota was a large and sophisticated company and should afford its workers some dignity, the minister said.
It should not be necessary to enshrine how companies should treat their employees when axing jobs in the Fair Work Act.
“”You shouldn’t always need the black letter of the parliamentary law to tell people how to treat other people well,” Mr Shorten said.
“The golden rule is treat people as you would like to be treated yourself, I would say to Toyota management.
“And if you think that test isn’t sufficient, I’d go to golden rule number two, treat your employees like you would like to treat your son and daughter.”"
Toyota workers treated badly? Blame the union and Work Cover.
“As for the presence of security guards, the Health and Safety legislation pretty much makes it impossible for the company not to take every precaution and mitigate every possible risk. Even AMWU state vehicle division secretary Paul Difelice told ABC radio “I don’t know how people are going to take it when they’re told they’re no longer required”.
An employee may be upset that they either did – or didn’t – get a redundancy package. There is a risk that someone could say something awful, perhaps abuse another employee, or even resort to violence. All liability for bullying or assault claims through Work Cover lies with the company.”
And now for what doesn’t get reported by the presstitutes:
“Reader Ooh Honey Honey:
I’ve been working at Toyota over the past two weeks and some of those dismissed walked past me yesterday. The remaining staff seemed very cheerful and diligent. I asked one operator what he thought and without hesitation he said “Well they’ve gone after the right people”, I asked “On what grounds” and he was a little more circumspect, saying “Oh, just stuff they did, the time they took off..””
Our journalists are incompetent. What budget pain? They never sack anyone, they never cut anything. Yet in the media you have all this talk about toughness. What is tough about reducing a burden? Its like saying that the emperor was being tough if he let the gladiators go as free citizens. There is a constant misuse of the language.
Government austerity means private abundance. Whereas the overspending in the states translates directly to 20%+ unemployment. Yet people talk about “austerity” and toughness when they mean cost-cutting in government.
They are not going to run a surplus. Wayne Swan refuses to run a surplus. Never did he have any intention of running a surplus. Instead of running a surplus, cutting any spending, firing anyone, or curtailing new spending ambitions, they somehow manage to get the journalists talking about toughness and austerity.
“”You shouldn’t always need the black letter of the parliamentary law to tell people how to treat other people well,” Mr Shorten said.
If that is the case, get rid of the stinking laws. The company has to follow the law, or it will get sued by unions. ‘I was just trying to be a decent person’ isn’t much defense against a union lawyer with 5 chips on his shoulder.
I detest the way the union movement clamours for regulations on everything, and then turns around and moans there is too much regulation.
It’s like Julia and her ‘Green Tape’ BS. If Green Tape is such an issue, dump the freaking carbon tax.
I don’t know how these people live with themselves. That much self-aware dishonesty and public lies would tear my conscience to threads. Yet chumps like Craig Thomson actually have the gall to smile to the media with a ‘We’re all getting away with it’ smirk.
“RED tape frustrates all business owners . . . Removing unnecessary regulation is not something that will be achieved by mouthing slogans or throwing around savings numbers without any detail . . . reducing regulatory burden is a key element of the government’s productivity agenda.”
How self-referential is this? Mouthing slogans about mouthing slogans. For her next trick she’ll reach down into her mouth and turn herself inside-out. Its like the Wayne Swan surplus. She is not going to reduce the volume of legislation, she knows it now, this is deliberate triangulation by a communist, and the journalist goes along with the charade.
When APS employees are making public comment in an unofficial capacity, it is not appropriate for them to make comment that is, or could be perceived to be:
…
• compromising public confidence in the agency or the APS.
LOL, no one should have any confidence in the Australian Public Service.
James K is likely clueless anyway. But he’s responding strictly to a claim that the Chinaman concocted, and not to anything I actually said. And then the primitive fucking wop, goes right ahead building on this stupidity like the fuckwit that he is. Remember its your money that this guy is looking after. Maybe you are right to let him look after it. He seems to have an inside track. But no inside brain. Or no brain inside.
“So you see these fucking grasshoppers eat the DDT in this story. And this fucking frog eats this motherload of DDT which is eternal. At least if you soak it in fat. And then the fucking trout comes along and he cannot stop eating frogs, complete c**t that he is. Frogs minding his own business and the trout just comes up and eats him like he has nothing better to do.”
Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Coverup.
Operation Fast and Furious is the deadliest and most sinister scandal in American history. A scandal so big, it’s worse than Iran-Contra and makes Watergate look like a high school prank gone wrong.
In the early days of the Obama Administration, President Obama claimed his goal was to stop the trafficking of guns from the United States into the hands of violent Mexican drug cartels. He claimed gun dealers in the United States were responsible for sending guns to Mexico. Both of his claims were lies.
In order to push his lies and policies built around them, with a goal of implementing harsher gun control laws and reinstating the assault weapons ban, President Obama packed his administration full of anti-Second Amendment zealots. After all, personnel is policy.
PUBLIC servants have been gagged from criticising Gillard government policies on blogs, Facebook and Twitter — even if they use an alias.
This is a magnificent precedent. Just think of the possibilities for a different government. Banning public servants from expressing Leftist opinions would just be the beginning.
This is a magnificent precedent. Just think of the possibilities for a different government. Banning public servants from expressing Leftist opinions would just be the beginning.
Lol
It’s the first thing I thought of, Fisk. Threaten to fire any of them along with removing their right to any retirement benefits.
I guess that generational taxeater Mike Jericho is fine because he never criticizes them.
Moral of the story: always watch Rasmussen, because it picks up these trends before every other poll. And the current trend shows people are sick and tired of the Kenyan.
So I should listen equally to you and my regular doc if I had cancer, hey bird?
By: Achmed, the first dead terrorist.
No you should not so much as discuss cancer with a doctor. Simply talking to a doctor about cancer is hazardous. “Hazardous”. Sometimes I use understatement for effect. You ought not have anything to do with your doctor if you get cancer. But you ought to start preparing now.
If you even went to see your doctor, suspecting you had cancer, you would be putting yourself under grave risk. Think of the very short time it took for the Quacks to knock out Joe Frazier? Something Ali was never able to do.
They killed my Mother for goodness sakes. If they can kill Frazier and my own Mum, you’d need your head read to have anything to do with them.
Silliness aside, some ‘treatment’ of cancer is simply quakery masquerading as medicine. A lot of it is psychological succour, really. It’s like, ‘you’re going to die – so we’re going to kill you to prevent that happening.’
On another of this vomitous government’s multiple fronts of war against free speech…
CIGARETTE packets could be used to display messages such as “pay your taxes on time” or “drive safely” if plain packaging laws are upheld, tobacco companies claimed yesterday.
Opening the landmark case in the High Court, lawyers for four tobacco giants claimed the federal government received a “benefit” from imposing health warnings on packets for free and it was unconstitutional to control the property of their products without fair compensation being paid.
Gavan Griffith QC, for Japanese Tobacco International – whose brands include Camel products – said the laws to be rolled out in December were akin to telling a billboard owner what to display on the space they owned.
He said, if upheld, the laws would allow the Commonwealth to dictate the message it wanted to display on property it did not own.
“They could have ‘pay your taxes on time’ or ‘drive safely’,” he said.
Justice Susan Crennan queried: “You and all your competitors will be in the same boat.”
Mr Griffith replied: “Yes, Your Honour, but the boat has sunk.”
He said property rights would be “exitinguished” by removing trademarks: “Some say Coca-Cola rots children’s teeth but it does not mean you remove their trademark.”
Very good point. If Methodist morals campaigner Roxon’s beloved plain packaging laws are allowed, any future government could make it compulsory for all new cars to feature livery warning against ‘climate change.’
I still think the Canberra-ensconsed poodles of the High Court will do everything possible to invent ‘law’ to please the government, though.
Abiraterone and DCA would probably KO it. I think they’ll brachytherapy and then excise with mild radiation and some mild chemo to follow up just in case.
It is actually amazing what prednisolone, aspirin and thalidomide can do with a regular prostate cancer drug.
More amazing is that cancer targeting with ligand molecules can make an old drug like placitaxel highly effective.
C.L.: Or if they reckon by all objective measures you have, say, a year left, they’ll make that entire time a living hell just to give you an extra 3 months, and call it “winning” – and psychologically burden you with the label “quitter” if you’re not happy to play along.
He’s a politician so he’s going to be a target for activists, and the reality is that when they have official engagements the police simply shunt activists away.
The worst thing about the plain packaging campaign is its complete lack of principle. Those for it simply hate tobacco companies and are therefore supporting a principle they would not otherwise support in any other like instance.
one of the gay commenters on the same same website gets it
Ali Hogg, grow up!!!!
Barging into a resturant unannounced, yelling at him and his dinner guests is down right rude and embarrassing. Yes, he is opposed to gay marriage and we need to sell the equality message as much as we can and to whoever we can, but we need to ask ourselves are these aggressive ambush tatics really going to help us????
What about the other diners in the restraunt, what about the staff or the resturant owners? they may be pro gay rights themselves but after being witness to this type of ridiculous behaviour it wouldnt surprise me if they they started to think otherwise. Who wants to go out for a nice meal with a bunch of feral animals yelling, screaming and banging against the windows? I certainly dont.
I have said in a previous thread a few weeks ago that we need to take a good hard look at ourselves when it comes to prostesting. If we act like a bunch of bullies, we get painted as a bunch of bullies and that does not make our fight for equality any easier.
Yea I saw some of the comments. They are pretty reasonable. In fact I tend to think a large number of gay men are actaully quite right wing…. just an impression.
wouldn’t it be illegal to protest in a private premises like a restaurant, and even if they’re just banging on the windows outside people in there having a meal if they had small children, the kids would be naturally frightened.
it dosn’t seem at all right.
Yes, I don’t know how you can define it as anything other than free speech, and this from Bolt who thinks himself a matyr to the cause of free speech.
Okay Bob, lets say me and a few other righties drive up to Whale Beach and started screaming at the top of our lungs..
” Bob is a fat, useless taxeater”, at the top of our lungs in addition to banging on the picket fence in front of your home and creating lots of noise*.
Is that free speech or creating a disturbance?
Would you call the cops or say to yourself.. well, these young people have a right to express their opinion in front of my home.
Lets take it one step further and create a more serious scenario.
What if a large number of Jews had enough of your antisemitic ravings and started serious protests in front of your home screaming out
“bob is a jewhating nazi prick”
How would you feel Bobster? Tell us.
* Dunno if you have a picket fence, just adding to the drama of the scene.
I’m not a politician and the fact is that politicians no longer hold public meetings, but media events in public protected by millions of dollars worth of tax-payer funded security.
I’m not a politician and the fact is that politicians no longer hold public meetings,
Yes they do. They are speaking at public events all the time. You may not like the venues where righties speak but they do hold meetings…. like the Tamworth Lions club and shit like that.
In any event the other people aren’t pols who were there eating their dinner.
but media events in public protected by millions of dollars worth of tax-payer funded security.
They need security, especially the Right these days, because race riots are even started by the PM and her office.
And face it, JC, if the vomit that comes out of your mouth is not a public disturbance but free speech then ‘everything is permitted’.
Actually bob, it’s permitted speech. It’s not free speech because it has nothing to do with the right to political dissent in a public forum or setting.
This is a private site and I’m permitted to speak at the owner’s pleasure.
lastly, you’re an imbecile as you don’t understand what free speech is about.
Is a Lions club meeting really a public meeting? In any event, political leaders never appear in public except for a stage-managed media performance with security forces sweeping away all free speech before it.
Mr Agonistes is struggling with this one, like his namesake.
it’s wrong to go around public places and pester ordinary people doing their job like in a restaurant and other people just eating a meal
Is a Lions club meeting really a public meeting? In any event, political leaders never appear in public except for a stage-managed media performance with security forces sweeping away all free speech before it.
Perhaps they don’t appear in public as much any more because the medium of mass communication has changed greatly with the numerous ways of getting the message across.
Is the Lions club public…. I’m sure even you could get a free ticket and listen to Barneby speak at a lions club do.
Caught unawares in public places is the only place you can protest.
The restaurant is privately owned “place” bob. I know the term doesn’t sink in with you except for all the shit you own, like the house in Whale Beach etc.
However Abbott behaved like a gentleman with the fat bull dyke. He let her do her song and dance and when she was finished he told her that she had made her point and that was that.
The owner of course had to push the bull out of the place.
Moreover, should taking photos of gay politicians entering bath houses be banned or is it press freedom?
No, because that isn’t creating an immediate disturbance. It’s not a nice thing to do to anyone though.
The presss lie in wait for politicians and media celebrities in public places all the time, so should this be banned?
Nope.
Look Bob, we should simply adopt the US system, where it’s almost impossible for a public person to sue and there are few limitations.
Having said that, US laws would also prevent that bull dyke from creating such a disturbance in a private establishment, you goofball.
Rotary gave me an 80 dollar educational award once upon a time, so I’ll think I’ll go there.
Always there with the hand out, aren’t you.
It’s almost entrepreneurial in the way you lefties go through grants like shit looking for ways to exploit the holes and get a sack of cash. It’s almost commendable in a way because you’re all always thinking of how to loot the treasury. Pity that creativity can’t be put to better use.
You can really get stuck into JC today all markets up.
Funny, but I’m far more placid when i lose money. Made a decent bunch last night too.
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Everyone knows how I’ve been looking for ways to make money out of the US gas and oil boom. Found it.
Energy production from gas turbines is now cheaper than coal in the US.
All you need to do is stick a turbine at the end of the shale gas pipe and you have really clean efficient energy that is cheaper than coal fired.
There’s a little company by the name of Capstone turbines in the US that is absolutely geared to this new tech.
It’s trading around a buck and if this shit takes off as I think it will this could be a 10 buck stock.
I think the market is not really understanding the leverage this stock has and it also doesn’t understand it’s recent strategy. It had a recent stock issue to retire debt and add to working capital however the market sold the stock down because of dilution when in fact it ought to be applauding less debt gearing and more working capital in a seriously growing business sector.
“My mentor killed Joe Frazier and he showed me all da tricks.”
The mass murder of people who come to the medical profession for assistance is nothing for a doctor to be flippant about. I guess people have become nihilistic. Worn down and incapable of outrage any more. Cancer is a very bad way to go. This is a crime against humanity that ought to be compared with the worst outrages of Stalin.
Here’s the latest press release from Capstone to get an idea what’s going on in the shale gas markets and why it’s absolutely fucking transformative.
CHATSWORTH, Calif., Apr 17, 2012 (GlobeNewswire via COMTEX) –Capstone Turbine Corporation (www.capstoneturbine.com) (Nasdaq:CPST), the world’s leading clean technology manufacturer of microturbine energy systems, today announced it continues to expand its presence in the Eagle Ford Shale Play with the sale of 30 more C65 microturbines.
Capstone distributor Horizon Power Systems (Pumps & Service) secured this follow-on order to support multiple users’ growing power needs. The latest order for 30 low-emission C65 microturbines brings the total sold in excess of 150 units in the last nine months.
The majority of the 150 microturbines will operate on natural gas to generate clean-and-green prime power for Lease Automatic Custody Transfer (LACT) units and transfer stations at remote well sites in the Eagle Ford Shale Play.
“These multiple follow-on orders indicate that Capstone microturbines are quickly becoming the chosen power system to meet growing needs of major oil & gas producers operating in the Eagle Ford Shale Play,” said Sam Henry, Horizon Power Systems President. “This order, along with the recent 10 MW order for C1000 Series products, proves we are making serious inroads in meeting the customer’s high-caliber power needs with Capstone innovative technology.”
“Just like the North American shale gas market, Capstone oil & gas sales are expanding rapidly and made up approximately 60% of Capstone’s total revenue through the first three quarters of Fiscal 2012,” said Darren Jamison, Capstone’s President and Chief Executive Officer. “From the remote oil fields of Russia to the Shale Plays of Texas, Capstone’s durable, low-emission, and highly-efficient microturbines are becoming a proven solution for around-the-clock production and optimized well performance worldwide, ” added Jamison.
Okay Bob, lets say me and a few other righties drive up to Whale Beach and started screaming at the top of our lungs..
” Bob is a fat, useless taxeater”, at the top of our lungs in addition to banging on the picket fence in front of your home and creating lots of noise*.
Is that free speech or creating a disturbance?
I’d be saying, “Who is that vagrant and who did he steal those designer jeans from?”
This is really interesting too as it’s suggesting large entities may go off grid and produce their own energy with a turbine and a regular old gas line.
-Capstone Turbine Corporation (www.capstoneturbine.com) (Nasdaq:CPST), the world’s leading clean technology manufacturer of microturbine energy systems, today announced it continues to expand its presence in the hospital market with the sale of a dual-mode C1000 Power Package to a Michigan hospital that will operate in a combined heat and power (CHP) application.
So entities such as hospital are buying a turbine and accessing the cheap gas to power up and heat the building!
Public servants gagged?? Sorry, but there have always been caveats on public servants making comments in a private capacity that could affect perceptions of their ability to do their jobs impartially, an key element of the APS Values and the APS Code of Conduct.
The usual criteria for deciding whether a comment is unacceptable are (a) the extent of the public servant’s work involvement with the issue on which he/she has commented and (b) the seniority of the public servant – a Dep Sec making political comment as a private citizen is of somewhat more concern, in terms of perceptions of bias, than and APS4. So long as they abide by these caveats, Commonwealth public servants they can say what they like.
So far as I am aware, this hasn’t changed. What the Commission is doing, however, is reminding employees that these caveats apply as much to comments on Facebook and other social as they do to, say, letters to the editor.
Okay Bob, lets say me and a few other righties drive up to Whale Beach and started screaming at the top of our lungs..
”Blob is a fat, useless taxeater”, at the top of our lungs in addition to banging on the picket fence in front of your home and creating lots of noise.
That’s the sort of action that warrants an immediate nobel peace prize.
JC
I will be devils advocate for you. The only thing it has on fuel cells which are much more efficient is capital costs. Fuel cells do have the dissadvantage though that they can’t turn on and off like a gas turbine. The units are of no use for baseload power supply as they are very innefficient around 30% versus 49% for a modern efficient standard plant. The hospital thing is because they are saving costs on the distribution of electricity not because the electricity is being produced more cheaply. Remote area they do seem to be good for micropower and possibly for peak load but it seems unlikely to me because much larger gas turbines would be cheaper. So it is a niche market and it depends on if that niche is big enough and competition in that niche market.
Jason: I amused by the way that English pamphlet writers in the 18th century complaining about the amount of homosexuality sound rather like Catallaxy commenters:
According to the author of Plain Reasons for the Growth of Sodomy (a separate section of five chapters originally published c. 1728, reprinted in Satan’s Harvest Home, 1749, by a different author), such effeminacy/homosexuality begins in early childhood with a sentimental or “soft” education. Young men are brought up as “Milksops”; they get up late in the morning, eat milk-porridge instead of a hearty English breakfast, go “to a Girls’-School, to learn Dancing and Reading”, then to a Master to learn Latin Grammar; ….”Besides, his whole Animal Fabrick is enervated for want of due Exercise”….
Modern education has become so decadent that a boy is “brought up in all respects like a Girl (Needle-works excepted) for his Mamma had charg’d him not to play with rude Boys, for fear of spoiling his Cloaths”.
… in the chapter titled “The Italian Opera’s [sic], and Corruption of the English Stage, and other Public Diversions”, …the author laments that whereas men “used to go from a good Comedy warm’d with the Fire of Love; and from a good Tragedy, fir’d with a Spirit of Glory; they [now] sit indolently and supine at an OPERA”.
The tech is better but the costs in manufacture are much higher. I have shares in ceramic fuel cells CFU. It is a gamble I know but they can get electrical efficiency up to about 60% or to 80% if you include water heating. The main cost is Zircon to make them I believe. Yes is relying on green handouts most probably. They are made in micro, only 2kw units and about the size of a washing machine.
Reading”, then to a Master to learn Latin Grammar;
Steve you have to cut this bit out how many academics around here? Maybe there are many gays around here otherwise why aren’t they doing real mens jobs instead of such an unmanly thing like putting their manicured hands on a keyboard. It is only 25 years ago that typing was considered womens work.
I wish Abbott would stop assisting the people smugglers and cashed-up queue jumpers:
ACV Triton intercepted a boat carrying 55 asylum seekers and two crew south-south-west of Browse Island earlier today.
Immigration Minister Chris Bowen … accused Opposition Leader Tony Abbott of standing in the way of offshore processing.
“The question remains for Mr Abbott: how many more boats have to arrive, how many more lives risked, before he stops the negativity, puts the national interest ahead of political interest, and allow the Government of the day to implement its policies?” Mr Bowen said.
250 million profit is doable for Capstone. Stick a 12 multiple om that and you end up with $3 billion in market cap. That’s basically 11 bucks a share. I’m happy with that. In fact this evening I will be buying more.
JC
What drugs have you been taking? Lets give them say $5000 per unit profit. So sales of 50 000 units when they sold a whole 150 last year. Even Steve could figure out that seems unlikely.
“The question remains for Mr Abbott: how many more boats have to arrive, how many more lives risked, before he stops the negativity, puts the national interest ahead of political interest, and allow the Government of the day to implement its policies?”
These people are absolutely sick. How many dead now since they dismantled the border protection system?
It really is all just a game to Labor.
What exactly are this “government who can’t govern without Tony Abbott’s OK” border policies now anyway?
I thought the malaysian thing was booted up the arse by the High Court and only covered 800 people. So what are they proposing now to cover 14,000?
Indians are obsessed with being white. The ads for skin whiteners are hilarious:
I went to a wedding in Malaysia a few years ago and some of the lasses went looking for some fake tan… might as well have asked for penis enlarging cream from the incredulous looks they received. Plenty of whitener, no bronzer.
Re breakfast:
Since returning from my Malaysian holiday, I miss being able to walk out to the street to buy nasi lemak (translation – fatty rice) for breakfast from the Malay woman streetside vendor.
There is nothing like getting a hit of chilli anchovies in the morning. It beats milk and cereal.
“Crestor® is in a class of drugs called statins, which work by stopping an enzyme called HMG-CoA reductase from making cholesterol. ”
A scandal. Mindlessly treating a symptom of a problem, without enquiring into the reason ones cholesterol is high.
“One of the side effects of Crestor® is Rhabdomyolysis and occurs when a large number of skeletal muscle cells die. The death of the skeletal muscle cells results in the release of a massive amount of muscle protein into the bloodstream. This flood of muscle protein in the blood leads to the deadliest of Crestor® side effects.
The muscle protein becomes trapped in the kidneys, affecting the filtering process of the kidneys leading to possible, if not probable, kidney failure. Other related side effects include cardiac arrest resulting from potassium released from the damaged muscle cells.
Crestor® side effects have been the subject of much recent controversy, perhaps more so than any other cholesterol lowering medication introduced to date. Despite numerous objections due to safety concerns, the drug was approved by the FDA in August of 2003, and launched a month later.
The consequences of taking Crestor® medications are significant, possibly life altering, potentially lethal and include: cardiomyopathy, myopathy, necrotizing myopathy, heart attack, type 2 diabetes, sudden cardiac death, kidney failure and death from a heart related condition. The risks are overwhelming and have led to an outcry and demand for a Crestor® recall, by the public interest group, Public Citizen.”
You are mad to be taking a drug like this. You might as well take some sort of elixer from a travelling roadshow in the old West.
The latest order for 30 low-emission C65 microturbines brings the total sold in excess of 150 units in the last nine months.
JC
My error that was sales for one particular model.
Can be pretty sure the profit for a small model will not be much. It is $15000 for a 50kva which is about 40kW. http://www.powercare.com.au/catalog/i21.html Diesel is likely to be more efficient though.
We have to get used to the idea that the medical industry is dominated by quackery and organized crime. You may as well be getting your pills from Fat Tony. Actually the same network that runs the legal drug cartel also runs the illegal drugs. The OSS was a British creation, and later morphed to the CIA. Its early movers and shakers were people from the British aristocracy who had made their family money in the opium trade.
The American political class has a strong strain of opium-dealing families in it as well. At least in its history. So the two businesses, legal and illegal drugs, are really part of the same cartel. The legal drugs kill many more people every year than the illegal types. Boards of directors are interlocked with banking and CIA interests.
Nelson Rockefeller is thought to have been killed by his Columbian partners as a result of misallocating some of their money. As we have seen with fast and furious, the spooks are always dealing with these alleged outlaws in the drug trade. Thats because the CIA is the worlds biggest drug dealer.
d_b, I suspect you are a pamphlet writer from the 18th century, if not earlier, communicating perhaps from the Other Side via a bit of spiritual technology, perhaps. Your devotion to philosophical approaches that have been discarded by thinkers for a century or two indicate a mind out of its appropriate era.
I wouldn’t think so. But its hardly the result of green monkeys roaming around Africa and having sex with the native women, who have sex with their husbands, who travel to Haiti to become male prostitutes, who are used by rich American homos.
As powerfully plausible as the above story seems to some people that is unlikely to be the case. In all likelihood AIDS probably came out of the medical maffias biggest money-spinner which is vaccinations. The CIA story sounds like cover for a more plausible screw-up. You start less plausible rumours in order to cover for more important mess-ups. Vaccination catastrophes appear to have a long history of cover-up associated with them.
The real catastrophe of AIDS is AIDS treatment. Thats the mass-murder and scandal there.
Don’t be taunting me with the name of the phantom of Catallaxy. A good health minister would have a lot of work to do. But he would find himself up against hidden political manipulation against him. The first thing to do would be an outright ban on Fluoride in the water. No more poisoning the water. Some European countries have had such a ban since the early 70′s. So there is a chance that it could be done without the American medical maffia stopping you.
The other thing is the absolute necessity of getting rid of all subsidies for the quacks, and adjusting pensions and the tax free threshold appropriately. We also need to promote various electrical methods of getting rid of pathogens. Oxidation clinics, particularly oxidation using monatomic (mono-atomic) anions of Oxygen.
So yeah there would be a lot of work to do. What is needed is a war on quackery.
JC needs to quit the Crestor, and instead get dessicated thyroid hormone, and filter the fluoride out of his water.
Cholesterol levels go high if there is not enough of a hormone. Since hormones are manufactured out of cholesterol, when the body figures that it has a hormone deficiency it raises cholesterol levels. More than likely the hormone in question is Thyroid hormone. So you get rid of the Crestor, get rid of the fluoride and start taking, and this is important, NON-SYNTHETIC thyroid hormone. Synthetic thyroid hormone is yet another money-making racket.
Under this treatment cholesterol levels will go down a little, and people who take desiccated thyroid hormone have half the rates of cancer, and almost never have heart problems.
“WHat’s your view on vaccinations for kiddies, Doc?”
We have to distinguish between vaccinations as a concept, and vaccinations as a racket. Vaccination may be okay as a concept. But take a look at what these lunatics put into these formulations! Plus they cover up the history of the outbreaks in disease that vaccinations have cause. The autism cover-up is just the latest manifestation of this long history of shame.
Just take a look at the actual specs of the vaccines that they want to shoot into your kids. Formaldehyde. Mercury. Aluminium. Various allegedly dead bacteria, that aren’t necessarily related to the disease being prevented.
Yeah it would be better if you gave the kids the bug-zapper. Note that anyone who has had cancer, and has been struck by lightning, and survived, has had his cancer cured. Also it has been noted that “I never saw an unvaccinated man who had cancer.” Which may not be the death-note to the entire concept of vaccination. But you cannot trust these idiots to make a safe vaccine. They are callous and unscientific.
I suggest you would be mad to let your kids be vaccinated. But you need to look for alternatives.
Are JC’s chemical imbalances to blame for his politically unreliable views or is that something intrinsic to him?”
I cannot talk about the depredations of the person you speak of. But Crestor makes you stupid, and then you take more Crestor on account of that stupidity. This is a winning money-making formula. The victim is locked in by this impenetrable circularity.
Look at the facts.
Fact 1: The brain has more cholesterol than any other organ.
Fact 2: “Crestor® is in a class of drugs called statins, which work by stopping an enzyme called HMG-CoA reductase from making cholesterol. ”
Fact3:
“One of the side effects of Crestor® is Rhabdomyolysis and occurs when a large number of skeletal muscle cells die. The death of the skeletal muscle cells results in the release of a massive amount of muscle protein into the bloodstream.
So you are going to have this dead muscle protein going through your brain, which isn’t going to be good for your brain or your immune system. And you’ve got this process killing the production of cholesterol in the brain. On this very thread we have personal testimony to the damage these drugs are doing to people who are known to the writers here.
Get rid of the statins. Bring in the Lugols solution and desiccated thyroid hormone.
Your devotion to philosophical approaches that have been discarded by thinkers for a century or two indicate a mind out of its appropriate era.
sfb, wrong again. Firstly, the contemporary interest in Oakeshott has never been so good. Secondly, and you probably had this in your sights to begin with, my recent interest in Aquinas and Aristotelian-Thomism is also experiencing something of a revival, and from unexpected quarters. Interesting times.
I just got an email invitation from Together Queensland* to attend a meeting to “have your say on your wages and conditions for the next three years”
Great! I thought. But I am not a member, but surely I can attend as there has been no other avenue allowed to engage in enterprise bargaining except by the union in the Bligh/Beattie administration. I wonder if I can have my say?
So I look at who can attend: “Who? All staff are welcome to attend.”
Great! Then I read the next sentence:
“Together membership forms will be available for any non-members to join up on the day so you can have your say too”
*why the hell can’t these things be called what the are, in this case the Queensland Public Sector Union? Together Queensland sounds like some sort of social club for hand holding types, no doubt with strong, caring head tilts.
Yeah true story about the lightning. All good leads to curing cancer are systematically demeaned, discarded, discredited, disparaged and dumped on. So here you have an idea that one method would be some sort of electrical treatments. Then there are oxidation treatments. Then there is trying to raise body pH. Then there is laetrile. Laetrile was targeted by the Rockefeller monopoly in 1963, in their war on quackery. They also started arresting herbalists. Shaking down old ladies, in para-military raids.
What happened is that in 1962 the Congress passed a law to say that these drugs had to be withdrawn from the public if they couldn’t be shown to be effective. So because the drugs were basically a fleecing racket, and could not be shown to be effective, a distraction needed to be created. Hence the 1963 war on quackery. Vitamins, herbs and particularly laetrile had to be targeted. Since laetrile had the potential to end the cancer money-making scam in its entirety.
Jason that is not such a silly idea. Raising the body’s temperature is a way to fight off cancer. I don’t know if it means being struck by lightning will cure advanced, invasive, highly differentiated and metastic cancer.
A new prostate cancer treatment using high frequency sound waves may be a viable alternative to surgery and radiotherapy with less chance of incontinence or impotence, researchers say.
A clinical trial funded by Britain’s Medical Research Council examined the efficacy of a new treatment known as high-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU), that can target areas just a few millimetres in size.
“The results … show that 12 months after treatment, none of the 41 men in the trial had incontinence of urine and just one in 10 suffered from poor erections – both common side effects of conventional treatment,” said a statement.
“The majority of men (95 per cent) were also cancer-free after a year.”
The findings were published in the journal Lancet Oncology.
Treatment involves radiotherapy or removing the prostate surgically – both methods that can damage surrounding healthy tissue, in some cases leading to incontinence or erectile dysfunction.
HIFU targets a small area affected by cancer – the sound waves causing the tissue to vibrate and heat up, killing the cancer cells.
The procedure is done under general anaesthetic and most patients are back home within 24 hours, said the statement.
my recent interest in Aquinas and Aristotelian-Thomism is also experiencing something of a revival, and from unexpected quarters. Interesting times.
You do like your flimflamery. There is no problem with the materialist account of the mind. Consciousness is the way in which we experience the physical processes of the brain.
See that was another treatment that looked promising but was crushed. Its not a new prostate cancer cure. Its an old cure. Every cell has a resonant frequency. But the cancer cell has a different resonant frequency than the healthy cell. So it is as the typing green square would have it. You can easily kill cancer cells with this method, which is why the method keeps getting buried every time it comes to the surface.
More from gay old England, this time a report of a remarkable official “pillorying” of 5 men who had run a gay house of ill repute in 1810:
The disgust felt by all ranks in Society at the detestable conduct of these wretches occasioned many thousands to become spectators of their punishment. At an early hour the Old Bailey was completely blockaded, and the increase of the mob about 12 o’clock, put a stop to the business of the sessions….
A number of fishwomen attended with stinking flounders and entrails of other fish which had been in preparation for several days.
Upwards of fifty women were permitted to stand in the ring [in front of the pillory], who assailed them incessantly with mud, dead cats, rotten eggs, potatoes, and buckets filled with blood, offal, and dung, which were brought by a number of butchers’ men from St James’s Market. These criminals were very roughly handled; but as there were four of them, they did not suffer so much as a less number might.
After an hour, the remaining two, Cook and Amos, alias Fox, were desired to mount and in one minute they appeared a complete heap of mud and their faces were much more battered than those of the former four.
Right well lightning isn’t anyones prescribed treatment. People seem to be having a hard time extrapolating from the lightning example. Cancer cells die if their environment is too high in pH. Actually mainstream quackery involves chemotherapy using substances that are usually alkaloids. But these dummies, instead of using alkaline substances of low toxicity (like baking soda, alkaline water, putting electrical energy into the blood and so forth) they poison the patient. When its the alkalinity of the substance that is likely doing the hard yards anyway. This is a massive scandal.
A number of fishwomen attended with stinking flounders and entrails of other fish which had been in preparation for several days.
Upwards of fifty women were permitted to stand in the ring [in front of the pillory], who assailed them incessantly with mud, dead cats, rotten eggs, potatoes, and buckets filled with blood, offal, and dung, which were brought by a number of butchers’ men from St James’s Market.
So this is what jealous women can do as what other reason do they have to care about some gay men.
Upwards of fifty women were permitted to stand in the ring [in front of the pillory], who assailed them incessantly with mud, dead cats, rotten eggs, potatoes, and buckets filled with blood, offal, and dung, which were brought by a number of butchers’ men from St James’s Market. These criminals were very roughly handled; but as there were four of them, they did not suffer so much as a less number might.
What a coincidence. This is my planned punishment for the ALP.
Women have fought long and hard to do dirty work, Kelly.
IT
Well they obviously had the right 200 years ago. I can’t think of any job much worse than curing dead animal remains to throw at someone and it involved very high risk of injury through disease I imagine, no rubber gloves back then.
You do like your flimflamery. There is no problem with the materialist account of the mind.
This is rich when materialist accounts of the mind are increasingly throwing concepts like intentionality into the proverbial ditch:
“Ultimately, science and scientism are going to make us give up as illusory the very thing conscious experience screams out at us loudest and longest: the notion that when we think, our thoughts are about anything at all, inside or outside of our minds.”
Consciousness is the way in which we experience the physical processes of the brain.
I see that, at the very least, Rosenberg is a little more clear-sighted about the consequences for consciousness given a “mechanistic account of the mind” that is identical to the “physical processes of the brain”.
Yes Infidel Tiger I think you are onto something there. I don’t know the specifics of ketone therapy. But the idea is to learn to get by with fats as your energy source and not sugars.
The reasoning goes like this…. Cancer cells like a low pH of about 6 or so. The amount of oxygen absorbed in water depends on two factors. Water temperature and water pH. Colder water can hold more oxygen, and water that is high pH can hold a lot of oxygen. Now the cancer cell is not anaerobic. It is “less-aerobic” putting it into the category of most of our bodies pathogens. The cancer cell needs to feed. But its very hard for the cancer cell to turn fat into energy. Because it requires a great deal of oxygen to turn fat into energy.
But supposing you are getting about with a lot of sugar in your diet? Well it requires very small amounts of oxygen to turn sugar into energy. So a sugar-based energy diet is going to have the cancer and other pathogens thriving. Simple chemistry of this sort seems to be ignored by the quacks.
I noticed that when I was concentrating on increasing body voltage, I could get a lot of energy from fat, and didn’t need that sugar-hit for energy as much as before. So the first step is trying to get your pH up, then try and get almost all your energy from fat, and almost none from sugar. This will make the cancer cells tired, and your own cells invigorated.
We need the facilities and methodologies that the organized crime families have monopolised in the medical industry. By monopolizing on these facilities the gangsters can continue the cancer myth. Since with the right facilities cancer is a very easy disease to beat. Already on this page we have maybe half a dozen promising leads on how to kill it. The idea is to apply all of the above.
I am male, and no chick. Perhaps you ought to look back into the clear logic of what I’ve written here, when you aren’t trying to grasp matters through a Crestor-induced haze. Wrinkle thee not thy pasty-white brow in a pathetic attempt to understand. Of course here I type in vain, since once you take Crestor you will become too stupid to ever stop. A direct attack on brain chemistry is what this Crestor is doing for you.
But supposing you were to stop taking the Crestor and rebuild your damaged brain. Get rid of the aluminium pots and pans, filter the fluoride and aluminium out of your water and so forth.
If you understand the un-assailable logic of what I say above then you might not be so dim-witted as to dismiss the right ideas that would improve your health and brain function.
A number of fishwomen attended with stinking flounders and entrails of other fish which had been in preparation for several days.
Upwards of fifty women were permitted to stand in the ring [in front of the pillory], who assailed them incessantly with mud, dead cats, rotten eggs, potatoes, and buckets filled with blood, offal, and dung, which were brought by a number of butchers’ men from St James’s Market.
Regarding another pillorying account, we get this interesting aspect explained:
For half an hour, according to a newspaper report, a steady “battery of artillery” was aimed at Hitchin by “the Drury Lane Ladies”, the rocks breaking windows when they missed the object of their hatred. One might expect other “sexual minorities” to sympathise with the mollies, but the current of anti-homosexual prejudice flowed deeply through all social groupings, and some of the most virulent molly-haters were the female prostitutes. They always turned out in force when a molly was pilloried, vocally and physically expressing their indignation at the mollies depriving these “more honest whores” of their rightful custom.
FAIRFAX Media’s metropolitan masthead newspapers were last month hit by a sharp fall in the value of advertising booked by media agencies, as the company gradually abandons its reliance on print as a source of revenue and a measure of its performance.
The company’s share of media agency bookings, which account for about 85 per cent of all advertising expenditure, fell 18 per cent year-on-year in March in the metro market across titles, including The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, compared with a market drop of 11 per cent.
News Limited, publisher of The Australian had a decline of 9 per cent, according to financial booking data compiled by Standard Media Index.
My boss’s wife has an advanced cancer women are subject to, and I gather they are off overseas soon to a clinic that tries things like temperature raising and whatever else.
I can only think of Steve McQueen and his alternative treatment efforts, but given their other options appear to be fast disappearing – I can sympathise with the desire of the two of them to seek every possible option for remission, no matter how improbable.
God forbid, but I guess you have to walk in their shoes before you understand why people go to such extraordinary lengths.
A number of fishwomen attended with stinking flounders and entrails of other fish which had been in preparation for several days.
Upwards of fifty women were permitted to stand in the ring [in front of the pillory], who assailed them incessantly with mud, dead cats, rotten eggs, potatoes, and buckets filled with blood, offal, and dung, which were brought by a number of butchers’ men from St James’s Market.
They’ve been in power five minutes and already the LNP Qld government is falling apart:
An LNP staffer has resigned after sending an email to a Queensland feminist about the superiority of men, telling her to “get a life” and calling her a “sourpuss” for writing an opinion piece about the need for more women in parliament.
Max Tomlinson, the then media adviser to Liberal National Party Senator Ian Macdonald, wrote to Dr Carole Ford after she penned a newspaper column criticising the lack of female representation in Queensland’s parliament.
In his email, Mr Tomlinson tells Dr Ford “like most women, you probably don’t possess the necessary drive, determination and decisiveness that men innately possess.
“I can only think of Steve McQueen and his alternative treatment efforts, but given their other options appear to be fast disappearing – I can sympathise with the desire of the two of them to seek every possible option for remission, no matter how improbable.”
Steve McQueen alternative treatment was successful. He was doing well with laetrile, then he made the mistake of listening to his doctor and went under the knife. He died of complications on the operating table. I heard that earlier he had one of these deals where they give you a coffee enema. But in the end he hit upon a good treatment, and the quacks killed under operation. Probably by accident.
Your friend has many good options available to her. But its hard to cut through the lies when you are already sick.
In other hot LaRouchite news, McDonalds Corp is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy after a 16yo assistant manager of a McDonalds franchise in Bacchus Marsh was fired for preparing a Big Mac without wearing gloves.
They’ve been in power five minutes and already the LNP Qld government is falling apart:
Thats ok cut them a bit of slack they had no power for 20 years. 20 of the LNP QLD members could be jailed and the seats lost to the ALP and there still wouldn’t be a problem.
God forbid, but I guess you have to walk in their shoes before you understand why people go to such extraordinary lengths.
Exactly. All very well to criticise but unless and until you are in the same boat you’ll never know what you’ll do to save your life or your loved one’s life. That doesn’t mean you have to accept any old alternative quackery but there have been some advances in this area for some cancers, especially if you do the research and exclude the voodoo-hoodoo stuff. Germany seems to be leading in this area.
“Max Tomlinson, the then media adviser to Liberal National Party Senator Ian Macdonald”
Yeah – for a media advisor the guy sounds like a tactless douche, but as he works for Senator Ian Macdonald – I am not sure it is time to petition a recall election on the Newman state government ?
She could be getting better right away, just on the information on this page. If she started popping near toxic levels of vitamin C, and started chewing apricot seeds that would be enough to stay the situation, until she had time to put a more full spectrum strategy into place.
“That doesn’t mean you have to accept any old alternative quackery….”
But its the mainstream that is known for quackery. Dangerous quackery at that. Alternative quackery tends to be merely ineffective. Mainstream quackery is actively harmful. Alternative quackery is cheap. Mainstream quackery is wrecking whole economies through sucking up all the resources.
The idea is not to worry about whether its mainstream or alternative. The idea is to follow science. Which takes you as far from the mainstream as you can get.
I reckon eventually the paying for content will be centralised as how it exists now you can’t chop and change. It would be like having cable and the only option is to watch Fox or only watch CNN, some people actually want a choice and not to pay much for it.
Delingpole is small but perfectly formed; he is droll, quirky, deadpan – and deadly serious. He …is excellent on the spot and on his feet; we covered a huge range of concerns, from Agenda 21 and the increasing loss of private property rights to government regulation, to the massively-subsidised ‘eco-crucifixes’ known as wind farms, which destroy natural wildlife to an extent that Evil Big Oil can only dream about.
How is the Green movement ‘watermelonish’? Because it uses tactics of social engineering that were pioneered by socialism over a hundred years ago and refined throughout a century of totalitarianism…
I reckon eventually the paying for content will be centralised as how it exists now you can’t chop and change. It would be like having cable and the only option is to watch Fox or only watch CNN, some people actually want a choice and not to pay much for it.
The difference is that this is the Internet where there are a thousand free alternatives, many of which are not execrable in quality. Cable is a closed business, the Internet is not.
The maths are simple: News will convert 10% of subscriptions from paper to digital, and they’ll continue to lose the vast majority of their advertising revenue compared to the glory days of print. There’s no lifeline dangling off that cliff.
Stop messing with my mind. The watermelons and pineapples in Thailand is finished for the moment and now have to have more bloody watermelons. Puts me off eating watermelons. The Thai references refer to the military who supported the red or yellow shirts but green on the outside. Maybe Mk50 can at least show a little smile if he shows up.
In his email, Mr Tomlinson tells Dr Ford “like most women, you probably don’t possess the necessary drive, determination and decisiveness that men innately possess.
I think Doucheballs is correct. Anyone fired for spelling that out should get a promotion and instead they fired him. That shows the new government is de-balled.
News will convert 10% of subscriptions from paper to digital,
You might find it becomes a part of cable, telephony, internet. A very big change of model but still theoretically viable and yes revenues still likely to drop.
I don’t know his name but one of the Drum people said that Austerity is being imposed. How on earth is saying you don’t have to pay all the debt back imposing something on a country?
It does seem unlikely that an individual’s consciousness can exist without his/her physical brain. Sadly no one has successfully created an artificial consciousness. http://selfawaresystems.com/
If upheld, the law could allow the government to impose all sorts of demands including potentially requiring Ford Motor Co. cars to be sold with signs proclaiming “I’d rather be driving a Holden,” Walker said, referring to the General Motors Co.’s Australian unit.
“It is wrong to hypothesize the extreme use of the power,” Stephen Gageler, the federal solicitor-general, told the court.
A more realistic example would be the requirement that all cars sold in Australia are required to be fitted with seatbelts, Gageler said.
Now the givernment can ignore trademark and take away the IP of any company it deems impure, they can begin work on those motor vehicles which spew all that carbon in the name of the quixotic quest for carbon purity.
I didn’t realise how deeply scarred and humiliated the Australian left was by Campbell Newman’s stunning and generational victory in Queensland – 6 seats: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! – until lefties started showing up here trying to tear down the new Premier.
“A more realistic example would be the requirement that all fossil fuelled cars sold in Australia are required to be the same brown colour, the same one model and no badge displayed. Each car will display a warning sign: Warning this driver destroys the planet.”
Campbell Newman’s stunning and generational victory in Queensland – 6 seats
then they have the hide to complain that someone isn’t giving them computers and internet access.
You are not a worthy party!!!! you are trash that has been put out on the street!!! you deserve to be swept into the sewer of history where you belong!
You are not a worthy party!!!! you are trash that has been put out on the street!!! you deserve to be swept into the sewer of history where you belong!
We have found someone with complete faith in a dictatorship.
“This is not a natural illness. It’s an intentional act to poison schoolgirls.”
“We are 100 percent sure that the water they drunk inside their classes was poisoned. This is either the work of those who are against girls’ education or irresponsible armed individuals.”
If you really want to locate the “war on women,” check out Afghanistan.
“President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama.”
The Democratic Senate has not adopted a budget in three years. This is not only flagrantly irresponsible, it is a violation of federal law. Outgoing Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, who is retiring at the end of the year, apparently felt pangs of conscience, because he decided it was finally time for his committee to mark up a budget. He announced that the committee would do so, starting tomorrow.
We have found someone with complete faith in a dictatorship
No we have found someone with complete understanding that there is nothing worth salvaging from the left. The entire notion of “progressive” ie regressive, which is a system of negative incentives, is utter stupidity. Maybe one day you too can awake to reality!
Education for women was outlawed by the Taliban government from 1996-2001 as un-Islamic.
Gab
I know you hate what is happening in the Middle East/Afghanistan but do you really think we are improving things. The reason for the above quote is noting that the Taliban reversed their decision before we arrived. I am not having a go at you just letting you know how I think.
The situation for women and girls has improved slightly since the allied forces have been in Afghanistan. But of course, once they leave things will just revert to how it was before.
Yes, OA, it’s been good for him but it just staves off things anyway that’s all, but it works for poochies,vet all good about it, just commenting on “natural” medicines.
“You got these $10,000-a-plate dinners and Golden Circles Clubs. I think when the average voter looks at that, they rightly feel they’re locked out of the process. They can’t attend a $10,000 breakfast and they know that those who can are going to get the kind of access they can’t imagine.”
According to WXIA-TV, the actor and producer best known for his “Madea” films is hosting a $35,800 fundraiser at his Georgia home for the president on March 16. That amount is the legal maximum under Federal Election Commission rules.
Supporters who shell out that much cash will be able to get their picture taken with Obama.
Holder’s “lost to the ages” quote bookends the president’s comment that Martin resembled the son he might have had. Whether those editorials will influence the jury pool in Florida no one knows, but I cannot remember a president and attorney general editorializing about a local criminal case before it has even gone to trial. If before the O.J. trial Bill Clinton had said that Nicole Simpson looked like the daughter he might have had, or had Janet Reno said Nicole was lost to the ages, well, fill in the blanks.
CL
Those quotes are 2 different things. One points out fact but in that fact there is democracy, the other points out the wishes of another commenter that QLD be a one party state.
So that is a qualification, is it, on the breadth of what you are saying in 84?
MR GAGELER: No, it is a step in getting to what I am saying in 84, your Honour. All I am seeking to do – - -
GUMMOW J: Not a strategic retreat?
FRENCH CJ: Or even a tactical one.
MR GAGELER: I am moving forward, your Honours. I am not moving backwards. Paragraph 83 is part of a pact I had with the Solicitor-General for Queensland.
FRENCH CJ: Yes, I am just reading the rather Delphic terminology of paragraph 13 of your outline.
HAYNE J: It is us you have got to make the pact with, Mr Solicitor, eventually.
MR GAGELER: I am still moving forward, your Honour. I am sorry, your Honour, you might have noticed that paragraph 13 is – - -
GUMMOW J: Part of the problem with this, Mr Solicitor, is that legislators regularly think they are moving forward the public interest by passing various statutes, doing various things, which some elements of society will not like and some will. Now, how you translate that into some constraint on 51(xxxi), may require some legerdemain.
MR GAGELER: I am taking it in stages. I was dealing with the context and then I was going to deal with how I do it. I will put it another way – how others have done it in the past and then how it should be done in the present case. But the explanation, your Honour, for the rather cryptical or Delphic construction of paragraphs 12 and 13 is at the bottom of page 3 of a three-page outline.
FRENCH CJ: That makes it all clear.
Reading the transcript of the 1st 2 days, the tobacco companies are stuffed.
The Court is saying the tobacco companys have not lost any property as they can still use their trademarks, albiet in a modified form.
The Govt having literally 95% of the packaging space is not different to requiring safety warnings on Ratsax.
Kelly, if the government can tell everyone what to do, what forces them to appear in the High Court?
It can’t be the government. They are the government.
It’s this sort of mindless, trivial discussion that ruins these threads. Your statement was silly and false. Stop trying to argue the toss. You were wrong.
This is so stupid. Retailers will soon carry plastic sleeves that will fit over plain packages. The sleeves will be the graven images of the old unadulterated packaging.
Wait until I unleash mini pipes on the market. Roxon will lose her shit as smoking becomes popular again.
Political considerations as retrospective laws can actually be made. In the US case martial law can be declared by one man at any time there is nothing a court can legally do. Everything can be overuled using martial law but the constitution is there basically to make it difficult, again in political terms.
who the hell are u? Im good. Still here..
Yeah Im a nut job. I dont know what party I belong too.I hate em all. Just cant make up my mind.
Banned from Quiggers slow moving blog of idol worhsippers and overly interventionist style..this one is so damn fast I cant keep up with the train of thought.
in my opinion plain packaging may prevent some kids from smoking or encourage some to give it up. it may be very small number but it’s worth trying, just for that reason.
In the US case martial law can be declared by one man at any time there is nothing a court can legally do.
No it can’t.
Yes there is.
Abraham Lincoln’s attempt to impose martial law, in concert with a suspension of habeus corpus throughout the United States, was struck down in Ex parte Milligan (1866).
CL
What happened 150 years ago I don’t know but I do know that exactly what you have described regarding the habeus corpus bit has happened in the US right now. So now we get to the second question which is what if nobody objects? The NDAA was signed into law in a bi partisan manner so who will challenge it?
in my opinion plain packaging may prevent some kids from smoking or encourage some to give it up. it may be very small number but it’s worth trying, just for that reason.
The government may outlaw sugary treats next and then you’ll be banned, candy.
Reading the transcript of the 1st 2 days, the tobacco companies are stuffed.
The Court is saying the tobacco companys have not lost any property as they can still use their trademarks, albiet in a modified form.
The Govt having literally 95% of the packaging space is not different to requiring safety warnings on Ratsax.
wow!
The Ratsak analogy is pretty emotive, isn’t it?
The tobacco companies were never going to get away with the argument about the Government stealing their property, because it’s fundamentally not true. The mood of the court does seem to be that they’re going to strike a blow that will be heard around the world, like the Vics did all those years ago against Scientology.
*groan* the ping-pong baby vid is bound to appear after that.
The most underrated, under-appreciated comedic and human-interest link posted on a thread in the history of the internet.
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in my opinion plain packaging may prevent some kids from smoking or encourage some to give it up. it may be very small number but it’s worth trying, just for that reason.
Let’s say Kelly and Candy live near a primary school.
The Newman government makes it compulsory for them to completely festoon their houses with anti-smoking messages etc. This will discourage child smokers. They will heartily welcome the initiative, naturally.
mOnty, when the goverment bans fantasy football on the grounds that it leads to chronic onanism and obesity, I will support your right to exist. Millions won’t, but I am a man of principle.
Tell me what rights the government has to use BAT’s trademarks, Dot. Surely if there was theft involved then the government would have gained an asset.
IT
Only annoying CL as JC isn’t here. Well the government can make that a requirement for the anti smoking messages but it would be political suicide but could be done slowly like they do with other regulations. I can’t remember the numbers but if our current legislation keeps expanding exponentially at the current rate it will take up the size of Brisbane in 2100 something like that.
Damn it – I reckon they can shove the brown paper packaging.
I like smoking and Im sick of people telling me what I can and cant do and Im perversely stubborn enough to ignore it all…and buy duty free cigs en mass.
I am sick of 40 per hour speed limits for hours on roads where kids NEVER cross the road to go to school when Im getting older and forget Im in a 40 zone and only drive 50 max anyway.
Im fed up with oppressive fines on young drivers for the most minor offences.
Im fed up with the government being in my face everywhere its unimportant and nitpicky and not around everywhere where it is important.
Brown paper packacking – oh dont we have anything more important to obsess about?
Large advertising on private property attracts taxes that is if it is allowed at all. So they could just introduce a tax of $100 per square centimetre of advertising on products used for smoking. Imagination people the challenge is only a deterrant as the government can just make another law to have the same effect.
Let’s say Kelly and Candy live near a primary school.
The Newman government makes it compulsory for them to completely festoon their houses with anti-smoking messages etc. This will discourage child smokers. They will heartily welcome the initiative, naturally.
How could they not? Are they OGRES?
Well, CL, they could ask me to put a up a picture of that handsome Mr Abbott is his blue polo with muscles bulging – yes! that would be nice.
Large advertising on private property attracts taxes that is if it is allowed at all. So they could just introduce a tax of $100 per square centimetre of advertising on products used for smoking. Imagination people the challenge is only a deterrant as the government can just make another law to have the same effect.
…and smokers will buy replica plastic sleeves of the old unadulterated packaging.
They can’t ban advertising on private property. There is a confirmed implied right to political free speech and a contestable right to free speech.
How could they pass such a law on taxing “advertising” (packaging, actually) given the rules surrounding excise laws and uniformity of Commonwealth taxes?
I agree, even without the claim of a benefit. The government has summarily acquired the right to determine what can appear on a packet of cigarettes (which is different, again, from requiring warnings). By analogy, m0nty should find nothing wrong with the government dictating that all fantasy football websites should have exactly the same design and appearance.
The economic value of not having to fund an equally successful anti smoking campaign.
That’s pretty lame, Dot. By the same argument, the government should pay big pharma compensation for not having to fund public health costs of emphysema patients.
So long as the tax is applied by the national government that is not a problem. but refering to section 92 you might want to think about how the carbon tax might contradict this.
Damn it – I reckon they can shove the brown paper packaging.
I like smoking and Im sick of people telling me what I can and cant do and Im perversely stubborn enough to ignore it all…and buy duty free cigs en mass.
I am sick of 40 per hour speed limits for hours on roads where kids NEVER cross the road to go to school when Im getting older and forget Im in a 40 zone and only drive 50 max anyway.
Im fed up with oppressive fines on young drivers for the most minor offences.
Im fed up with the government being in my face everywhere its unimportant and nitpicky and not around everywhere where it is important.
Brown paper packacking – oh dont we have anything more important to obsess about?
Alice – you’re not who or thought you were. Or I hardly knew ye. Well said. The Government runs the military and law and order system, perhaps some infrastructure and maybe public health and welfare.
That’s pretty lame, Dot. By the same argument, the government should pay big pharma compensation for not having to fund public health costs of emphysema patients.
No. How the hell is this analogous?
This is about trademarks.
Yes…and the BENEFIT of acquisition = the alternative economic value.
The government doesn’t have any responsibility to compensate private companies for regulating products for safety reasons, Dot. Particularly not with reference to money saved on hands-off education campaigns as opposed to direct regulation. That’s ridiculous, there is no such trade-off to be made where the companies involved deserve compensation. Rent seeking at its worst, shame on you Dot.
No Dot I am a socialist like everyone else here, you claim not to be.
No. You are wrong. There are very few socialists here. Why do you slur people like this?
So long as the tax is applied by the national government that is not a problem. but refering to section 92 you might want to think about how the carbon tax might contradict this.
wtf?
The States raise franchise fees (or have the right to and cannot be taxed by the Cth) and excise must be kept separate to “tax”. Do you really think you could legally just tax tobacco packaging? The rate applied to work would mess up other industries beyond comprehension.
I’m sceptical if taxing tobacco packaging only would be “uniform throughout the Commonwealth”.
If the government made fantasy football illegal tomorrow mOnty, what would your response be?
If participating in fantasy football according to the instructions gave you emphysema, cancer and many other fatal diseases, I would hardly be surprised.
The government doesn’t have any responsibility to compensate private companies for regulating products for safety reasons, Dot.
Yes okay.
Particularly not with reference to money saved on hands-off education campaigns as opposed to direct regulation. That’s ridiculous, there is no such trade-off to be made where the companies involved deserve compensation. Rent seeking at its worst, shame on you Dot.
There is no rent seeking. They can directly regulate all they like, except that they cannot compulsorily acquire property if the Commonwealth receives a benefit.
I am arguing the Commonwealth receives a benefit. Are you seriously trying to argue that branding has non value? No one is arguing for compensation. They are arguing the Government should cease and desist because no compensation has been offered.
It is not rent seeking, it is an application of the just compensation clause.
I got an LNP junk mail brochure for the Brisabne City Council Elections today. It says “Roads, Rates, Rubbish”
I haven’t seen an ALP flyer yet. The are probably saving their dosh for the federal election, and in any case our little ward is about 90% liberal.
So I went searching for the campaign slogan, and have had to give up.literally. All I could find was the ALP lord mayor candidate planning on bringing Bollywood to Brisbane.
Alice: people from Europe – the most over-regulated socialist dominion on the planet – can’t believe how over-regulated Australia is when they visit. Not even the politicians are in charge in Australia: the place is being run on remote control by a self-appointed totalitarian middle class thought police – in the public service, on school committees, in academia. Talk to young people: it’s one of the main reasons they cite for why they travel to Bali and Thailand. Going overseas means acquiring personal freedom and leaving behind a suffocating world of regulations. We’re so frickin “laid back” (read: controllable) that we keep not pushing back. I think that the return of a conservative national government will trigger a backlash against the cumulative creep of regulation. And a lot of the backlash will be against the Liberal Party, which is only slightly less a socialist party than the ALP.
If participating in fantasy football according to the instructions gave you emphysema, cancer and many other fatal diseases, I would hardly be surprised.
Recent studies have shown that fantasy football causes chronic onanism, obesity and myopia. The government is considering banning you from advertising your business, removing your sites name and will be making you present your site in plain text*. They will however continue to accept massive sin taxes on fantasy football players and site operators. How do you respond?
No. You are wrong. There are very few socialists here. Why do you slur people like this?
If this is the case then I am not so tell people to stop slurring me. We are all socialists if that means transfer of wealth to help the most needy.
Excise can be put on packaging why not, it is no different to the tobacco itself. It is all only technical anyway and can just write laws until it passes like the suggestion to change the immigration act so people can be sent to Malaysia.
Even Israel now admits that Iran did not threaten to wipe Israel off the map:
Meanwhile, the deputy prime minister, Dan Meridor, acknowledged in a television interview that Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, had never promised to “wipe Israel off the map”, contrary to repeated claims.
Excise can be put on packaging why not, it is no different to the tobacco itself. It is all only technical anyway and can just write laws until it passes like the suggestion to change the immigration act so people can be sent to Malaysia.
No. They can’t just keep on writing laws. There are several explicit and implied constitutional rights. Furthermore, the Commonwealth has only limited heads of power unless referral is made. If they are just adding more excise they could just up the excise rate.
One of the reasons the poodles sitting on the high court found against the Malaysian solution was that it contravened international treaties Australia is a signatory to.
There is trade mark protection under the WTO so how can the poodles possibly avoid that one?
If participating in fantasy football according to the instructions gave[may give] you emphysema, cancer and many other fatal diseases, I would hardly be surprised.
FTFY. This will be the same rationale for extending just this type of intervention into other areas of our life, and it will be deployed against products that are high in sugar, carbohydrates, fat, cholesterol, and the like.
Jack The Insider ridicules and totally destroys plain packaging wowser crackdown (supported by the usual leftist morals campaigners)… note the big fat stupid lie at the centre of it all.
At the core of the government’s reasoning is that plain packaging of cigarettes will prevent our clueless youth from picking up the habit.
The argument goes that the nation’s adolescents are so easily impressed by shiny things that they will only buy cigarettes if they come in decorative packaging (already emblazoned with macabre images and dire warnings of death and human misery) with an accompanying company logo but won’t if the packaging is an olive-green aesthetic hell and the logo is reduced to a five point comic sans font.
So there must be a raft of clinical data to support this ground breaking legislation, right? Well, no there isn’t. There have been studies both here and in the UK but they are inconclusive because they are mired deeply in the hypothetical. These studies usually take the form of offering young, non-smokers plain and branded cigarette packaging and asking them which they would prefer to buy if they were to entertain the idea of smoking.
That same test could be conducted with a Violet Crumble and the same results obtained.
This is all part of a greater push by the government to identify smoking as a sort of confected national crisis.
The government and others hail figures that indicate smoking costs the economy $31 billion every year. That doesn’t sound so much when you say it quickly but where on earth do these figures come from
The annual federal health budget alone sits around $40 billion, so crook or dying smokers can’t be chewing all that up. Non-smokers get crook and die, too.
It turns out that this $31 billion is guess work based on such spurious figures as loss of productivity and the cost of house fires, some of which might have been lit by unextinguished cigarettes.
As a former fire investigator, I can tell you that unextinguished cigarettes sit a long way out on the on the margins in terms of causes of fires.
The government doesn’t have any responsibility to compensate private companies for regulating products for safety reasons, Dot.
Yes okay.
Gee, you too readily capitulated, dot, and it was unwarranted. Plain packaging is not a safety regulation, it certainly doesn’t improve the ‘safety’ of the product when used.
Yea you were far more animated than I’ve seen you. I thought it may have been that you forgot to take you blood pressure medication, so it’s good to see it was only because the big boy was TV.
Hey Bob, wifey keeps suggesting we spend a week at that Whale beach hotel. You know if it’s any good? It’s called Jonah’s I think… as in whale I guess.
whats your view on EURCAD then? I’m contemplating going short
That’s my old friend, Dennis Gartman suggesting that Idea. I’ve known Dennis forever. Sounds ok. But I have the straight long US dollar against Euro on. Finally, it’s breaking down tonight. It’s given me a lot of heartache this week. There’s a pretty decent double top at around 1.3160ish on the charts and I have my stop on there. I also added to my position this afternoon when it started to break down.
I don’t like the Cad because it has a commodity play in the currency and I really don’t much care for commds at the moment.
There is trade mark protection under the WTO so how can the poodles possibly avoid that one?
Oh they’ll invent some bullshit, don’t worry about that.
The High Court should never have been based in Canberra. I’d base it in Darwin or Townsville or Bunbury. Some place where they have no sense of membership in the mandarin class. The inclination of this court is to protect the power of the state. Only one other demographic is higher than the state on its hierarchy of audiences. That being luvvies. Big Baccy is evil and they’ll see to it that the ‘correct’ judgement is delivered.
Even Israel now admits that Iran did not threaten to wipe Israel off the map:
Meanwhile, the deputy prime minister, Dan Meridor, acknowledged in a television interview that Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, had never promised to “wipe Israel off the map”, contrary to repeated claims.
Ah, the manic Samson is a Dr Snipper too. What the dishonest jerk left out, in addition to a link:
“They didn’t say ‘We’ll wipe it out’, but ‘It will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed’. They repeatedly said ‘Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist’,” Meridor told al-Jazeera.
Gee, you too readily capitulated, dot, and it was unwarranted. Plain packaging is not a safety regulation, it certainly doesn’t improve the ‘safety’ of the product when used.
I agreed this on its own was not a case for compensation. If I capitulated, minty should lay off donuts.
JC, if you go over to RCP right now and look to the right (not that it really matters because I agree with the first half of your post) a Marist Poll has Obama up 22 over Romney in NY. It won’t mean squat, because yes, Romney is going to win in the general, but I’m not that cocky about NY, yet.
Yes, but the propaganda line that Iran threatened to eliminate Israel is and was wrong, a lie, and one that has been defended noisily on this blog.
Israel thinks Palestine is illiegitimate, it has and does steal Palestinian land, it refuses to acknowledge its existence as a state and punishes them for being recognised by UNESCO.
The only real difference is that Israel has achieved its goal of wiping out the Palestinians. Deir Yassin was not an event; it was a programme.
Anybody who still claims Armedinejad said this is in dissagreement with Isreali deputy prime minister and same if you dissagree that there is no evidence of Iran currently building a nuclear weapon.
Should you be concerned about Israel it does not help your cause if you can’t agree with authorities.
THE TEA PARTY: America’s Greatest Feminist Movement? “It is women in particular who have embraced the movement, either in leadership roles or in behind-the-scenes work. The stay-at-home moms and working women who sacrifice family time in order to commit themselves to the movement are inspiring generations of young American females.”
I’m long up to the gills in stocks. I’m not a betting man however, believe it or not. I rarely take those raw bets on gambling markets, but i might take a bet on Romney here.
I don’t understand this though as there’s a ton of money to be made.
If I was a big time hedge fund manager, I would first go out and buy very large volatility stocks (high beta) that move much more than the actual index average.
I would then go out and smack the shit out of the Romeny offer and take it down to the Kenyan’s odds.
It would take perhaps $10 million to 20 million to smack those odds down in the betting markets as they are relatively small.
Once the stock markets caught a whiff of a major shift like that in the betting market, they would zoom stocks much higher.
There’s a pile of fucking serious money ready to be made by a big hedge fund fucking around with those oods and pre-setting in the stock and futures markets.
I reckon you will see a major shift in there soon and it will be sudden as one of those fuckers will do this.
It’s a pity I don’t have the size money to do it as I would.
Hit the odds right down total cost say 20 million.
Earn 7% on a $2 billion leveraged stock position.
Make 140 million -lose 20 million = net $120 million for a few days work. Minimum.
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman wants to nuke the Palestinians out of existence, and he can make good his threat as they have several hundred nukes.
Yes, but the propaganda line that Iran threatened to eliminate Israel is and was wrong, a lie, and one that has been defended noisily on this blog.
Listen, you clueless, dishonest imbecile, try doing some basic research before making a fool of yourself. It wasn’t a “propaganda line” and it wasn’t a “lie.”
Do you know where it came from?
Have a fucking guess:
On October 26, 2005, IRIB News, an English-language subsidiary of the state-controlled Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), filed a story on Ahmadinejad’s speech to the “World Without Zionism” conference in Asia, entitled: Ahmadinejad: Israel must be wiped off the map. The story was picked up by Western news agencies and quickly made headlines around the world. On October 30, The New York Times published a full transcript of the speech …
Yes and it would take perhaps $20 million to smack the odds down in all markets. It would take less then that, as that $2.8 million has taken ages to accumulate. I’m talking about smacking it down in say 48 hours.
The press would see that, or the big funds could spin the news to say that is good for the stock market and it would be off to the races.
I’m betting one of those huge fuckers is going to put on this play over the next few days.
No. I quoted what refuted the lie and the rest of the statements don’t materially alter the fact that Iran never stated that it wanted to destroy Israel.
I know Alex, it’s a big fucking call. However Romney is the typical Republican NY likes and I’m thinking that likely dem voters in the city are going to stay this one out while the burbs and upstate goes Romney.
The burbs and Upstate aren’t laydown dems, you know.
Fuckers haven’t thought of this one.
We never saw poltical advertising in the NY markets because it was always going Dem and both sides saved their money.
If the Kenyan starts spending money in NY and Romney twigs to this and he does too, the Kenyan is in trouble in NY.
Lieberman says he wants to nuke Palestinians out of existence, but more realistically he’s trying to deprive Palestinian Israelis of their citizenship and that is racist.
Poor little moppet. Judging by that picture I think they’re Asian. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a race-based attack. The two teens should be flogged.
The Israel thing is emotional for many people including some here. To exagerate things on both sides of the argument will not help. Both sides put out a very large amount of propagander.
Gab
I did and I would prefer to believe the Israeli Deputy PM and your video contradicted this. Once I see clear evidence of propagander or inaccuracies I ignore.
As we know courtesy of The Warmlist, climate change is implicated as the cause or contributing factor to everything from Afghan poppie crop failure to zoonotic diseases, but did you know it can also be implicated in outbreaks of witchcraft in the Middle Ages?
That’s the argument of two recent academic papers, which attempt to connect the nearly 1 million women put to death for witchcraft in the Middle Ages to the Little Ice Age that, ironically, the climateers have tried to deny or minimize for quite a while now. Now, of course, the argument is being reversed—if we don’t pay heed to the climateers warnings, witchcraft might return? (Seems to me too many of the climateers take seriously the proceedings of the UN General Assembly. Or have studied voodoo economics in Haiti.)
Gab
Now I remember the context and the death to whoever. Iran was called an axis of evil country a few years before (the vid does not have a date) and as such the reaction is not that much. What sort of a situation do you think will be created when an outside power threatens your country. The US is a prime example of this.
So you agree that Palestine is a relative and recent construct Bob, thanks.
Would you also agree that the Mad Mullahs of Iran would be happy to see a holocaust, since it would herald the return of the Mahdi?
How do you feel being part of a global leftist campaign to delegitimise Israel and the jews, in a way not seen in the last 70 years?
Perhaps you believe in this stigmatisation, and/or is it just a manifestation of your newly renewed quaffing at the trough to support your UN-facing master?
Its rare day when the Israeli Deputy PM comes to your assistance.
Except he didn’t. I Googled your (unprovided) link to the Guardian and found that you’d airbrushed two of just three paragraphs devoted to Meridor’s remarks (which were not even what the story was about).
Meanwhile, the deputy prime minister, Dan Meridor, acknowledged in a television interview that Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, had never promised to “wipe Israel off the map”, contrary to repeated claims.
“They didn’t say ‘We’ll wipe it out’, but ‘It will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed’. They repeatedly said ‘Israel is not legitimate, it should not exist’,” Meridor told al-Jazeera.
In 2005, Ahmadinejad quoted the leader of the 1979 Islamic revolution as saying Israel “must vanish from the page of time”, but his remarks were widely mistranslated.
The Guardan fails to disclose that the remarks were officially published by Iran.
People are comparing them to Rebecca Black but “Friday” was an earnest if painful attempt at homemade tween pop. This is more a case of kidding on the square — I think. It almost seems designed to go viral: Two rich girls in the Hilton/Kardashian mold (they’re in a limo, no?) singing an impossibly dumb song about how hot they are? Pure magic. I’m surprised Paris and Kim didn’t think of it first.
JC
It doesn’t matter if something basically says the same thing but is always used to inflame. What matters more is things that are clearly incorrect like real evidence that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. If words are not important then just use proper quotes.
If the US “threatened” Australia, I would not expect the PM to make statements about wiping New Zealand off the map in response.
2stix
The US is the example not Australia. Military size of next ten militaries or 50 times ours. Scared of small countries on other side of planet. Rhetoric of attacking countries all the time. Actual attacks often.
Flytilla activists scrawl swastika at Israel airport.
Despicable but typical of these progressive activists, Spot.
“This was the gift the ‘peace activists’ left Israel,” one Immigration Authority official told theYnet news portal.
A total of 79 foreign activists managed to reach Israel this week. Most were detained at the airport, handed a wry letter of “welcome” by Israel’s Foreign Ministry, and then deported to their home countries. Hundreds more activists were planning to invade Israel, but were thwarted when the airlines suddenly cancelled their tickets.
We appreciate your choosing to make Israel the object of your humanitarian concerns. We know there were many other worthy choices.
You could have chosen to protest they Syrian regime’s daily savagery against its own people, which has claimed thousands of lives.
You could have chosen to protest the Iranian regime’s brutal crackdown on dissent and support of terrorism throughout the world.
You could have chosen to protest Hamas rule in Gaza, where terror organizations commit a double war crime by firing rockets at civilians and hiding behind civilians.
But instead you chose to protest against Israel, the Middle East’s sole democracy, where women are equal, the press criticizes the government, human rights organizations can operate freely, religious freedom is protected for all and minorities do not live in fear.
Therefore we suggest to let you solve first the real problems of the region, and then come back and share with us your experience.
JC
You already know my position about what will happen in Israel. It is actually a very optimistic view. Think of South Africa, Britain and Ireland, US from slaves to president in around 150 years. Things do change even if they might seem unlikely at the time. There is good evidence that the Palestinians and Israeli’s will live in peace one day. Both sides are softening but it is a very slow process.
2stix
The US is the example not Australia. Military size of next ten militaries or 50 times ours. Scared of small countries on other side of planet. Rhetoric of attacking countries all the time. Actual attacks often.
Erm you were trying to get us to empathise with Iran. Which I did for you, and then like a goldfish you forgot that you asked “What sort of a situation do you think will be created when an outside power threatens your country. ”
And I replied we probably would start threatening New Zealand.
Anyway, you do realise that Iran isn’t a particularly benign country don’t you?
There will never be any peace in the Middle East as Israel is basically building a wall around what it wants to own and it will then expel Palestinian Israelis to the bantustans that will be Israeli-dominated prison camps where nothing flourshes, as is Gaza today.
This is what Israeli policy intends and there are countless documents to show it.
JC
They may or may not want to build a weapn, Australia may or may not want a nuclear weapon. All I said is there is no evidence only suspicion and that is fact unless you think can’t trust Deputy PM or IAEA.
2stix
The US is scared that is why they have such a large military because some countries say mean things. Iran has not attacked anyone for the last 200 years so externally they can be considered benign. If you want to talk about Hamas or Hezbollah well the US supports them also money is fungible so what is your point.
Fascinating. Yesterday we learned that the Nazis believed that morality is a malleable thing, and different cultures ought to be allowed to have their own ways of living without fear of judgement.
Today we learn that the State of Israel was not created by the UN in the aftermath of WWII, but has thrived without contest since the days of some dude whose very existence is doubtful, and furthermore was a popular location for extreme whitewater rafting in the early 1980s.
And now that the glorious Arab Spring has fulfilled it’s promise in Egypt surely the most enlightened new leftist approved Egyption leaders will welcome and aid the downtrodden Palestinians post-haste.
but we do have a video of an Israeli soldier clubbing a peaceful individual with his gun.
He hit him in the face once, hardly a “clubbing”. And Israel’s response:
an act which has been sharply criticised by the Israeli prime minister, president and chief of staff…
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu condemned the soldier’s actions, saying: “Such conduct is not characteristic of the soldiers and commanders of the Israeli military, and has no place in the army or the state of Israel.”
President Shimon Peres said he was shocked, and Benny Gantz, the Israeli chief of staff, described it as “a severe incident, which contravenes the IDF’s values”, saying it would be investigated thoroughly…
However, friends of the suspended IDF officer claimed that the demonstrator had fractured bones in the soldier’s hand before the incident. The soldiers had acted with restraint, tried to calmly disperse the activists blocking the road, and only retaliated when they were attacked, they added.
Dickhead, if you imply you want to impose any standards on Jews because of the time they have existed as a modern state in the middle East, I suggest you pack you fucking rutsack and go join your gal in the UK on a one way fucking ticket, you clown.
BTW Back in the late 90s I went as part of a trade mission to Israel. We landed at Ben Gurion at a time that Saddam was threatening to send Scuds full of Anthrax in our direction. The Head of Mission, a Cabinet Minister, was taken off the plane in Bangkok. We were told at a meeting with the Oz Ambassador the following morning in Tel Aviv that all essential embassy staff had been evacuated to Cyprus and that the only remaining full body suits were reserved for those embassy staff that remained (a bit of a Titanic moment). My dear wife had insisted that I take some masking tape for the windows.
The Isaelis were very welcoming and appreciative of our being there at that very tense time.
However, when we landed at Ben Gurion and went to the car park for our lifts into town, one of our crew left a full suitcase on the ground in the carpark by mistake. We merrily progressed to town, about 45 minutes, and then said crew member remembered the lost bag. He was taken back to Ben Gurion, where the case was still sitting there. It could have been an anthrax bomb, but no fabled Israeli security picked it up.
Israel is a seriously whacky, organised but disorganised place.
Hirsi Ali admits to lying and recommends it highly:
Ms Hirsi Ali, a prominent critic of Islam, said it was futile for countries to attempt to establish the bona fides of would-be refugees, not least because many asylum-seekers will say anything in order to qualify for asylum.
She said refugee claims should be rigorously assessed on the applicant’s ability to make a contribution to the host nation and to accept its values and culture.
“Everybody lies,” she told The Australian yesterday.
In other words, judge refugees as if they were bona fide immigrants.
You know, the way these Lefties defend Iran and Palestine you’d think they actually want Israel wiped off the face of the earth.
I assume I am included in this statement at the moment so I will respond. There is very little to defend Iran from as they haven’t done anything externally it is only words. So far as the way Israel/Palestine is, it is bad for all concerned and saying they will unite one day is good I thought. If you do not believe this then what do you think will happen eventually?
Hitler only adopted extermination after the Wannsee Conference in January 1942, but I’m pretty sure no one was any doubt that he wanted to force the Jews out of Germany.
Khamenei affirmed that Iran had assisted militant groups like the Lebanese Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas — a well-known policy, but one that Iranian leaders rarely state explicitly.
“We have intervened in anti-Israel matters, and it brought victory in the 33-day war by Hezbollah against Israel in 2006, and in the 22-day war” between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip, he said.
Israel’s large-scale military incursion against Hamas in 2008-2009 in Gaza ended in a cease-fire, with Israel claiming to have inflicted heavy damage on the militant organization. The war in Lebanon ended with a U.N.-brokered truce that sent thousands of Lebanese troops and international peacekeepers into southern Lebanon to prevent another outbreak.
“From now on, in any place, if any nation or any group confronts the Zionist regime, we will endorse and we will help. We have no fear expressing this,” said Khamenei.
He said Israel is a “cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut.”
Holy shit Bob Ellis’s blog reads like the lunatic rantings of a madman. He positively makes this Bird characters Blog look rational.
He also spends a disturbing amount of time (three massive posts bob?) apologising for Mel Gibsons anti Jew rants.
There’s also a love affair with Bob Brown that would go better left unsaid.
Finally:
“Because if the answer is, in any of these cases, yes, it must then mean that a Gazan man whose wife and infant daughter were killed by an IDF helicopter-gunship at midnight in mistake for someone else, has the right to hate Jews as a generality.”
The left so often tells us that Israeli’s and Jews are different. That when they rant and rave about how much they hate “Israeli’s” and “Zionists” they don’t mean Jews.
They lie.
(I cannot believe that this nutcase writes speeches for Labor politicians.)
Who do you think is arming Hamas and Hezbollah with rockets and stuff, you red neck?
Well the neighbours people in Egypt and possibly other neighbours. How is the money arranged I don’t know the answer to that question but I expect some aid money is diverted by the leaders.
Australia’s development assistance through the Middle East (Palestinian Territories) program for 2010–2011 totalled $50.3 million.
Maybe some of this does get diverted the very basic rockets would not cost all that much.
So far as the way Israel/Palestine is, it is bad for all concerned and saying they will unite one day is good I thought. If you do not believe this then what do you think will happen eventually?
Hezbollah has been accused of committing a number of attacks and kidnappings.[20][21][22] Between 1982 and 1986, in the midst of the Lebanese Civil War, 36 suicide attacks were made in Lebanon against American, French, Lebanese, and Israeli targets by 41 people of different religions and political ideologies, killing 659 people.[23][24] Hezbollah has been accused of some or all of these attacks, but responsibility is disputed, and Hezbollah has denied being involved in any of them.[25][26][27] These attacks included the April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing,[28] the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing,[20][22][28] and a spate of attacks on IDF troops and SLA militiamen in southern Lebanon.[24] The period also saw the hijacking of TWA Flight 847 in 1985,[20] and the Lebanon hostage crisis from 1982 to 1992.[22] More recently, Hezbollah has been accused of the January 15, 2008, bombing of a U.S. Embassy vehicle in Beirut.[citation needed]
Outside of Lebanon, Hezbollah has been accused of the 1992 Israeli Embassy attack in Buenos Aires,[20][22] and the 1994 AMIA bombing of a Jewish cultural centre, both in Argentina.[20] According to Nasrallah, however, Hezbollah refused any participation in operations outside Lebanese and Israeli lands before 2008.[29]
Good night Abu,JC,Gab,CL and SA. Thanks for the “robust” chat. Still would like to know what the long term outlook is and or your solutions according to all your opinions as that interests me more than the tit for tat stuff.
See? It can’t be done. I have made my challenge and now I call on Bob Carr to sack Bob Ellis and instate me as his script writer. Gerard Henderson’s position us also safe.
Romney’s campaign manager noted this picture — which Axelrod had tweeted as “How loving pet owners transport their dogs” — as, “in hindsight,” a “chilling photo.”
I wonder why people think Samson (formerly known as Max S cream) is Bob Ellis. I doubt it. And suggesting that this low-rent troll is a well-known individual is no doubt gratifying for him. He doesn’t deserve to be flattered. He’s a moron. Nothing more.
If it really is him, I’m surprised a man of his advanced years would behave in such a juvenile manner. And surely he would have better things to do? Nah, I can’t believe it.
So you dispute the Old Testament. OK, what is your evidence?
I don’t need any evidence to suggest that talking about the Old Testament’s highly contentious “facts” about the history of the region is a poor basis on which to found a discussion about modern Israel.
The Israel of David and Soloman was a state in any sense that we would now define it. Disagree?
Yeah, and so was Yugoslavia. Time marches on. But as with the Old Testament, if you want to believe in moustachioed prophets indulging in extreme sports and quaffing soft drinks, I doubt I can stop you. Nobody could accuse you of being light on the fizz.
There was a diaspora due to the Romans. Disagree?
Europhile. Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians (and Greeks) all got there and had turn before the Romans.
Jews have long established ethnic roots in Israel. Disagree?
Of course not. But so do many other religions and races. Only an idiot would say the Jewish claim is exclusive, because some beardo in a big old book allegedly gave it to them.
Once again, by lying and covering up, Gillard has bungled again…
If Goose hadn’t sledged Twiggy, and if Gillard didn’t lie, Hildebrand wouldn’t have got P**sed and told the story in such an interesting and compelling fashion.
The end result of the lies is we all get to understand that Gillard & Swan knifed Rudd to ensure the solution was not implemented to the mining tax debacle Swan created.
#ObamaDogRecipes — When You Lie Down With Dogs, You Get Photoshopped Eating Them
Mission accomplished. That Mitt hates dogs meme is neutralised.
It looks like 2010 was a great training run for the Republicans as Romney is using the same tactic as the Tea Party. Smears are neutralised with a guerilla campaign laced with humour and disdain.
It will be interesting to see what the next moved is from the campaign for the candidate for Fear & Envy (formerly Hope & Change).
I cannot believe most Americans even give a hoot about this lame diversion. Recent poll shows number one concern is for the economy. The dog tale didn’t even rate.
…coz dogs hate sticking their heads out of windows in cars with their tongues lolling out, and sheep dogs never stand on the back of utes barking at the wind…
Why are some on the right so intolerant of someone with a different opinion? Basically my opinion is a country should not be invaded without “proof”(not opinion) they intend to do harm to another or have broken an agreement they signed as a very minimum. It was almost made out that my opinion is the devils work.
but how would she know the dog loved it, she wasn’t sitting up there with him, and he vomited too, went down the windscreen their kids saw it and asked what the brown stuff was.
Dog owners don’t know when their dogs are happy/unhappy/distressed? Is that your contention?
The dog got sick due to eating bad turkey. The dog had been on many trips and he didn’t appear to cower or run away from the “cage” whenever is was produced before a trip. Have you even read the story I posted?
Dogs can eat just about anything, they gobble up cat excrement from the litter tray even, they be greedy devils, well Labradors are. but that’s another story.
He was travel sick or distressed and awful lonely up there.
Token
I don’t want anyone to talk about me. I would prefer people offer their opinions than only abuse. So I would like to know what all the abuse was about. That is to know about others not me.
About the dog so long as the temp was ok the dog was fine.
Yet apparently such a need exists that now all venues will be equipped with a Mo-zone. This accommodation of religion at secular events is certain to infuriate the atheist left.
Not long now and sharia law will replace our current laws. I may even open a store…Burqas ‘R’ Us…I’ll even supply rainbow coloured burqas for the lesbo set.
The AFL has made it compulsory for all of its venues to have Muslim prayer rooms.
What a wonderful idea. So what if a Christian or a Hindu feels the urgent need to pray? Will they be allowed to use the same space as the followers of the religion of peace?
A single room given over for a specific use, like a disabled toilet, has you guys up in arms.
1. MCG is private property. What they do with their rooms is their business.
2. MCG is in the business of attracting as many people as possible to their venue. If they decide to cater to people with certain religious requirement for prayer, and this can be accomodated, WTF has this got to do with you?
oh the AFL has said there must be one – so you are not really upset with private property owners exercising their rights, but the AFL stepping in to force the issue.
Bit like a government mandating disability access / toilets – no difference.
The AFL has the right to say where their games will be played and the conditions they expect will be made available for their patrons.
Pete – I think you’re overlooking the fact that probably not one single AFL stadium was built without a preponderance of governmnet money. The AFL is less private company, more corporate dole-bludger.
Obviously because some AFL clubs have official chaplains, the country is about to be taken over by cardinals imposing hardline Christian law on working families, preventing contraception and abortions, and mandating a haloed picture of Pell to be installed in every classroom.
Typical overreaction by the usual suspects. It’s a quiet room in a big building. You might as well complain about disabled toilets or baby changing rooms. Or the Long Room.
A PUBLIC servant injured on a work trip while having sex with an acquaintance at a motel room is entitled to compensation, a judge has ruled.
In the Federal Court today, Justice John Nicholas concluded that the injuries were suffered by the woman in the course of her employment.
The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had challenged the rejection of her workers’ compensation claim for facial and psychological injuries suffered when a glass light fitting came away from the wall above the bed as she was having sex in November 2007.
Look out for proposals to make gridiron helmets mandatory for public servants.
imposing hardline Christian law on working families, preventing contraception and abortions, and mandating a haloed picture of Pell to be installed in every classroom
The Catholic Church hasn’t had earthly power since 1798. What are you rambling about?
Islam is followed by a few crazies in theocracies. A few Muslim crazies in Anglophile nations want Sharia law.
Yes minty, the AFL will get MORE popular by appealing to anti social religious zealots more at home with the Exclusive Bretheren than other footy fans.
If you want to pray, go to a Church or a Mosque, don’t go to the football.
The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had challenged the rejection of her workers’ compensation claim for facial and psychological injuries suffered when a glass light fitting came away from the wall above the bed as she was having sex in November 2007.
Workers comp? She should have sued the hotel for negligence.
Personally I am upset my old employer didn’t have a room for my transcendental meditation. Well they did but the ceiling clearance was very low (8.5 ft). I felt like I was excluded.
Ah yes, the “secular” left now come along and defend religion at the AFL.
Get with the program, Gab. Islam is abhorrent to the athiest Left, but it is an essential ramraid truck that can be used to smash Western culture and turn it into an allegorical “flat smoking tank park”, just like the Middle East homelands (Thanks, Patrick Cook). Plus theocracies are good at transforming functioning economies into impoverished topdown proletaria like the Union of Soviet Socialist (bwahahaha!!!)Republics.
Typical overreaction by the usual suspects. It’s a quiet room in a big building. You might as well complain about disabled toilets or baby changing rooms. Or the Long Room.
I really could not care less what the stadium owners do with their space. My query was whether those using the room have an open mind if others had a genuine need. Most muslims I know wouldn’t, a few will.
What have the organisers of the Aus Open found when some fans arrive with fixed opinions about others and a belief they don’t ahve to respect other people?
Hell no. [Scientology is] not a religion, it’s a scam.
I’d like to say I agree with you for one m0nty, but I can’t. Scientology is an official religion, according to the Government, and your comment may well be in breach of the Racial Discrimination Act Section 18C.
I’m sure that comment is ‘reasonably likely’ to offend or humiliate Scientologists, based on their religion. And they’re not exactly shy about using lawyers, so I’d be very careful if I was you.
As I said though, if it were legal, I’d agree with you…
Hey Gab, I like the way your pro “any woman should have a handgun” ad features a suss looking guy in a hoodie. Hoodies being the universal sign of “people who you can probably safely shoot,” as we all know.
If Steve can afford to be toking on a bong at 2.30 in the afternoon, weed and hash obviously need to be legalised and taxed into oblivion like tobacco.
Typical overreaction by the usual suspects. It’s a quiet room in a big building. You might as well complain about disabled toilets or baby changing rooms.
Why should we complain about those things? They discriminate against nobody based on their religion.
Or are you saying Islam is like a disability? Or that government funded buildings are ok to discriminate based on religion?
If the Exclusive Brethren were given their very own special room you’d be having an absolute fit. You’re very, very weak m0nty.
dot and Tom, I’m no fan of Scientiology, but they’re extremely litigious. If you call their religion a scam ior offend them in any way they’ll haul you before Judge Mordy.
yet another reason to strike down this stupid law.
I really admire how a certain conservative Catholic expects respect for his religion while calling Muslim prayer rooms “toilets”, Gab.
Ahahahahaha.
I don’t “expect” any “respect” for my religion, Steve.
I expect the opposite, doofus, not least from pro-abortion ‘Catholics’ like you.
And I didn’t call Muslim “prayer rooms” toilets. NTTAWWT. Two commenters defending football sharia said Muslim prayer rooms were comparable to toilets.
So we have wrongness, lies, quote-doctoring and boilerplate left-wing extremism from you, and all in one brief post. Outstanding.
Interesting article from Obama’s cousin about how the president has failed to live up to the aspirations all Americans have.
Through the grace of marriage and the miracle of adoption, our family – the president’s and mine – boasts a rich ethnic diversity: European, American Indian, black, Chinese, Korean, Latino and Asian Indian. Only in America would a family look like ours.
Ultra-nationalist anti-democratic revolutionary who wanted to cause a “witch-hunt” by the left-wing Norwegian government against “moderate cultural conservatives and nationalists” in order to increase societal polarisation and encourage more monsters like him. Hmm. Where have we seen that before?
I don’t know if anyone has suggested it yet as I’m trying to catch up.
Kelly, go to Firefox toolbar and select Tools – Options – Advanced – General. Make sure your ‘check spelling as I type box’ is ticked. You may need to restart Firefox to enable the change.
Penang seems to be doing very well under the Opposition. I think it has the potential to be a second Singapore (like Singapore it’s an island and a Chinese majority state) if it secedes (fat chance though).
“Hot, tal, very hot. But I did gain something like 3 kg from eating 5 times a day…”
We’ve got to get this street vending happening here. Its so important that a large proportion of the population is in a position to go in for a low start-up business of their own. Its so important that ubiquitous small outdoor shoppery drives prices for many things down.
We need to regulate in such a way that the retailer who has the lease gets the revenue from the street entrepreneur who parks in front of his shop. But we don’t really want them to be able to say no.
Okay probably we want them to be able to say no to an individual street vendor, but not to the idea of the street vendor in front of the shop that he is leasing. But matters will run more smoothly if its the fellow with the lease, and not the fellow who owns the real estate …. things will go better if its the fellow with the lease who gets the position fee from the street vendor.
The reason I say that is that the newly ubiquitous appearance of thousands of street vendors will hit the lease holders bottom line first. So the transition will be easier if it is the lease-holder, not the real estate owner, who picks up the revenue.
Badass of the week is a really well written blog. I like the way the fellow once apologised for the over-representation of Gurkhas in his kickass-review.
“Ted Nugent: Obama administration communists, President a “criminal,” Pelosi a “sub-human scoundrel,” Debbie Wasserman Schultz a “varmint.””
More than fair. And his guitar playing was just exemplary. I always steer the young guitar aspirants towards Nugent, because his riffs and introductions are so creative, but also pretty easy for the kids to master (one would think …. I don’t play myself). I do so at the risk of corrupting the youth. Since his lyrics can come across somewhat sex-obsessed and chauvinistic. But with guitar composition and delivery like that, what else can you say but “bravo.”
“Zoning is virtually non existent in Penang so you can run a cafe from your house…”
Yeah that is what you want. But when you go in for massive transitions you are still likely to need sunsetted regulations. You want the medium-term rewards going to the people who are going to be stomped by the changes to the market first.
In Thailand you would go to fairly isolated tourist spots, and expecting to be ripped off. But the ease of starting a business, meant that the prices were even good in most of these situations. Not like here when our goons find themselves with a captured market.
I miss Penang a LOT, Jason. It and Singapore are my two favourite places in the world.
Best eatery when I was going there regularly was this Indian bloke and his family who rocked up at the back of Penang General Hospital around dusk. Spotlessly clean little truck, they’d fold down the sides and such – it was a mobile restoran with this brilliant food they’d been cooking all during the day.
Then there’s the Banana Leaf restoran at Butterworth (best Tamil food evah), the bamboo tube compressed rice and jet-black ‘pulled’ rendang at the Thieves market stall….
Oh, the other thing about Malaysia -
it’s really sad how many Malay girls wear head scarves nowadays in KL. At least they’re too sane to fall for the burqa nonsense. The only people who wear those are still Arabs. Nonetheless it’s a shame as they have some lookers.
IT is back in his Aussie whinger “I live in a dump of a country” mode.
It’s an okay place to work and raise a family I suppose. But if one has a hankering for excitement and adventure one would be best fucking off from these staid shores.
Wouldn’t you like to be able to buy a bowl of beef pho from Mrs Tran on your way to work? Or to purchase a refreshing bottle of Bintang from Wayan’s cooler whilst relaxing on the beach?
Australia is a good place to live but it could be even better with a lot of changes which would not in any way be detrimental to its general quality of life other than to prudes and neurotics like steve.
I’m extremely surprised that people holiday in Australia. Unless things change I’ll never spend another dollar on tourism here, except maybe lunch at a winery.
I’d advise any young foreigner looking for a good time to avoid Australia like a Turkish prison.
He would be if he could shoot roos and koalas from his tent flap in the morning, while his exotic female asian holiday companion was providing services inside the sleeping bag at the bargain rate of $5 a day; but because Australia is a bit restrictive for such opportunities, camping is too boring for him.
I used to love it. However camping has become as regulated as any other activity in this fascist hellhole. You wouldn’t believe some of the remote places rangers have woken me up to ask if I’ve paid my camping fees. No fires, no guns, no fishing, no fun.
Bob
India has no reason to nuke China. And it is not run by crazies. On the other hand, Pakistan could be overrun by crazies one day and it does have nukes too.
He would be if he could shoot roos and koalas from his tent flap in the morning, while his exotic female asian holiday companion was providing services inside the sleeping bag at the bargain rate of $5 a day
He would be if he could shoot roos and koalas from his tent flap in the morning, while his exotic female asian holiday companion was providing services inside the sleeping bag at the bargain rate of $5 a day; but because Australia is a bit restrictive for such opportunities, camping is too boring for him.
North Korea’s deputy UN ambassador Pak Tok Hun accused the security council of being “undemocratic” by targeting the reclusive communist nation while allowing many other countries to launch satellites.
It’s complete nonsense. Is this where you ply your speechwriting trade now?
1) I have no sexual proclivities for Englishmen. Based on what you have written, you may not be in the same position.
2) I never said that the Muslim headscarf was absurd or primitive though I think the burqa is. I said it was sad for males who like a perv. In that it achieves its intended effect of ‘female modesty’ without going over the top like the burqa.
So Iran has no nukes and we get excited, and India has real nukes with intercontinetntal capacity and we sell it ‘the good stuff’.
The overriding International concern with nukes is who is likely to use them in a first strike, bob, you fat old Jew-hating bastard.
So bob, it’s basically about power politics and not on whose side are “they” on. India is unlikely to be going around and using them out of the blue in a first strike against its neighbors.
No one, even in the middle East much gave a shit about Israel holding nukes as they knew that Israel was never going to use nukes because it simply hates towel heads. They all realized it was defensive posturing in case one of those murderous scum regimes attacked it. It didn’t cause Saudi nor Egypt to race and build a nuke bomb in the same way that it has threatened them with Iran’s intentions, you fat stupid turd.
Iran holding nukes is not a threat to Israel, you taxeating infestation of a blob. The concern is that it will start an arms race in all the Middle East seeing it holds most of the world’s drama queens and degenerate lunatics.
It would be curious say, but wouldn’t worry us much if New Zealand decided to nuke up, however I think a nuked up Indonesia may cause us to go nuke. See the difference Bob, you unparalleled rotund oaf.
I hope that helps you get your mind around the problem Bob. Thanks.
I’m a partisan of the idea that the less that is shown, the more this ‘less’ is eroticised.
Head scarves are attractive and make the unveiling even more dramatic.
There is a scene in a Kairosatami film where the Iranian heroine unveils.
Welcome back…
Token
16 Apr 12 at 8:40 pm
in case JC and James K do not see:
Before A. Bolt removes his post:
he said:
“This is a man who should have been tried quietly, almost secretly, and executed miserably, humiliatingly. (I’m reminded here of the powerful finale of Angels With Dirty Faces, in which a priest persuades a murderer who’d resolved to die game to go instead to the electric chair screaming and crying, to “die yeller” to warn off the buys who admired him still.)”
it’s disappointing he would say that. the norway killer should be judged, put in jail/psych and forgotton. like martin bryant – just the same.
candy
16 Apr 12 at 8:42 pm
CEO of Gallup Polling says U.S. unemployment is really 20%.
link
Alex Pundit
16 Apr 12 at 8:42 pm
My point is in the last few days people have been saying only people on the left are capable of killing. Paraphrasing of course.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
Thank you, your lordship. Your splendorous omnipotence knows no bounds and calms the tempest of flying commas.
Tom
16 Apr 12 at 8:46 pm
Some thoughts to open the thread with:
Token
16 Apr 12 at 8:46 pm
– Infidel Tiger, sometime last week.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 8:48 pm
Freedom ended in the US after 911, so its good Reagan’s not here.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 8:48 pm
Oh look! New forum! SHINY!
/wanders nonchalantly past newly-poured sidewalk, casually etches initials in corner
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 8:55 pm
Que?
Tom
16 Apr 12 at 8:55 pm
JC, thaat piece by Andrew C. McCarthy on Holder is very good. Thanks. Holder really is a trash. And a complete criminal, of course, as he proved in the Clinton years. He was chosen by Obama solely because he’s a black radical. No other reason.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 8:55 pm
Please don’t feed the troll. His dropping are disgusting and the stink doesn’t go away for days…
Token
16 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
kelly I suppose your point is the the Norwegian murderer is a man of the “right”. So what do you mean by the “right”? What does a psychopathic murderer have in common with classical liberalism, cultural conservatism, libertarian/anarchism and some other positions that people on the left like to sweep into a big bundle labelled “The Right”? What is the point of using “left” and “right” as general purpose labels?
Rafe
16 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
Hey where is MaryBob, Samson? What did you do with himher anyway?
Someone check Samson’s cellar.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 8:59 pm
We don’t want the nutbags to turn him into another Charles Manson. Obscurity would be great if it could be achieved.
Token
16 Apr 12 at 9:00 pm
Breivik is a self-proclaimed rightist.
Breivik is also an Islamophobe, which is a position widely adopted on the right.
Breivik constructs the struggle as a war of civilisation, us against the evil doers, the West versus Islam and this is a position widely adopted on the right.
Breivik is an extremist, but a right wing one.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 9:02 pm
Would the UN condone sending flowers to honour the memory of Hitler, or Stalin, or Mao? – well they did to honour Kim Jong Il. A tribute. As well, “the communist parties of Peru and Norway sent delegates, bearing gifts, to celebrate the 100th birthday of Kim Il Sung”, no doubt the Greens also sent some flowers.
http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/guess-whos-buying-flowers-for-pyongyang/
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 9:02 pm
Yes, where the chocolate bar, Isreal hating, BDS meet with the far right. We all despise both groups for the hate they pedal.
Token
16 Apr 12 at 9:04 pm
Talking about people filled with hate based upon race.
Another opportunity for Obama to talk about the sons he never had…
Token
16 Apr 12 at 9:07 pm
Regrettably, or interestingly, Martin Bryant has not as yet sunk into obscurity.
I would be willing to bet Breivik’s name will be deployed on each and every occasion where immigration is debated in Europe in future.
Myrddin Seren
16 Apr 12 at 9:10 pm
Stop lying bob.
You reprobate
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 9:13 pm
Classic, Rafe.
So we can look forward to your abandonment of those descriptors?
You old goose.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 9:18 pm
The nucking futs murdering scumbag expressed admiration for al Qaeda, so he’s not that much of a rightwinger. He has nothing in common with what’s come to be known as the counter-jihad movement.
Islamophobia is a stupid, made up word used to cow people into silence. There is nothing irrational about not wanting to put up with a belief system that tells you how to go to the toilet (go in left foot first and out right foot first – Reliance e9.1(6) and how to make sure you’ve got it all out.)
Seriously, Samson, do you really think it’s a terrible thing to not want to live like that?
You don’t get a little bit of sharia. It’s like being a little bit pregnant. It’s there or it’s not, and if you allow a smidge in, then the rest isn’t far behind.
That doesn’t make me a Breivik or an extremist. It makes me a realist.
nilk
16 Apr 12 at 9:18 pm
No bullying dickhead. Your rules remember.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 9:20 pm
The part that old reefer brain, FDB missed was this part of Rafe’s explanation.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 9:22 pm
Fuck The What!!?? How can any person who identifies as ‘left-wing’ NOT be an Islamophobe?
Peter Patton
16 Apr 12 at 9:23 pm
“No bullying dickhead. Your rules remember.”
I remember saying that lots of (attempted) bullying goes on here, in response to the laughable claim that it didn’t.
I remember freely admitting that I am often abusive.
So as always you totally miss the point, douchebag.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 9:27 pm
Cartoon: Occupy economics
Token
16 Apr 12 at 9:29 pm
Hows that Arab Spring working out for you?
Token
16 Apr 12 at 9:34 pm
Is there a way we can convince the people of New South Skintland (Tasmania) to learn from the Scottish start their own Nationalist movement?
Token
16 Apr 12 at 9:52 pm
Do tell, what is the difference between attempted bullying versus actual bullying?
DavidJ
16 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
Could those of you who are in favor of forcing (by State fiat if necessary) liberal democratic societies to “tolerate” Islam in the name of “multiculturalism” at least come straight out and admit that you hate women, jews and homosexuals?
It wouldn’t make your position any more tenable, but at least you’d be being honest for a change.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
Sounds like Fox has got an Egyptian TV outlet.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:01 pm
The difference is whether it worked. Next topic.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 10:03 pm
Attempted bullying is attemting to intimidate, belittle, ostracise, hurt, etc someone.
Actual bullying is those attempts being successful.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 10:05 pm
Snap!
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 10:06 pm
This is an attempt to subjugate you to his use of language. It’s like being retaught English by a parking cop. Only manipulative weasels attempt this level of pissantery.
Tom
16 Apr 12 at 10:07 pm
Campbell E. Newman’s ‘Me worry?:
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:09 pm
Tom – what an odd thing to say. It’s all pretty simple, in plain uncontroversial English.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 10:10 pm
sdog, this raises an interesting issue.
I’m in favour of people hanging out together and having whatever beliefs they want to have, even if I personally don’t like their beliefs or agree. I guess that can simplistically be called “freedom of religion.”
Where I draw the line is amending existing laws, regulations and procedures to the inconvenience of others, to accommodate those beliefs and practices. For example, clearing out the local pool so that there can be segregated swimming, or allowing people to make sworn statements with their face concealed.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 10:10 pm
So you think this is a bad thing?
Mk50 of Brisbane
16 Apr 12 at 10:11 pm
Rafe
Absolutely nothing just as Dick Smith has nothing to do with Pol Pot or Stalin as was suggested today. It is better to only argue on points not bring up the worst people in history and make silly comparisons. He does have a lot in common with the Islamic terrorists though and describes himself as a Christian. Some of the commentators here do label all muslims as terrorists which is just as bad as calling all christians terrorists. I do not agree with the death penalty and unlike the politicians of both sides who agreed with the death penalty for Indonesians I keep my principle.
So main point is don’t argue left or right and definately don’t introduce historical dictators of no relevance.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 10:12 pm
Now, Spot, where’s your relativism gone? You should know better than to speak clearly and without confusion. So long as it all feels like you’re thinking all the correct thoughts then you are.
It’s not nice to point out what multiculturalism is actually about (ie social engineering the petty individuals out in order to bring in or bring up the collective). You could be forcing people to clarify their thoughts.
nilk
16 Apr 12 at 10:13 pm
You are right, we should be more inclusive like the UK is:
Token
16 Apr 12 at 10:17 pm
“Lord” Ahmed is an absolute disgrace and should have been attained of his title years ago. It’s only a ae they don’t lock up disgraced lords in the Tower of London anymore.
Quentin George
16 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
Not all muslims are terrorists, BUT most terrorists are muslims.
That is not a “vibe”, that is cold hard fact.
Until you can present to us a list of the thousands upon thousands of modern-day terrorism events committed by faithful christians shouting “Jesus is Our Savior!” as they kill the innocent, I will feel free to call you a dishonest moral-equivalence apologist.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
American state terrorism has killed millions.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:23 pm
Lord Nazir Ahmed has been verballed, to use a favourite expression around here.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:25 pm
Could you elaborate? Links to a Guardian article or somesuch would be acceptable.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 10:26 pm
Those who hand their friends & allies over to the crocodile hoping to be eaten last, are still going to be eaten.
It’s what crocodiles do. It’s who they are.
See also ‘frog vs. scorpion’.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 10:29 pm
He’s been suspended, DD.
Of course that should have happened years ago, but it’s a start.
nilk
16 Apr 12 at 10:29 pm
Ahmed has form – Hitchens caught the sleazebag once pledging to have Muslims march to Westminster to intimidate MPs over the Danish cartoons.
Quentin George
16 Apr 12 at 10:30 pm
Since 9/11 media has reported over 18,000 attacks by Muslims (mostly on other muslims, please note) which can be labelled ‘terrorist’.
Similar attacks by all other major religiously-affiliated persons combined seem to come to about 5% of this at best. So Sdog is correct.
Hey look, SA has revealed himself as a gap toothed window licking anti-American bigot. Hey SA, what’s your view on Israel giving the Palestinians a proper flogging for continually launching rockets at towns in Israel?
Mk50 of Brisbane
16 Apr 12 at 10:30 pm
Blair’s on fire tonight.
Tom
16 Apr 12 at 10:32 pm
So how is a private individual supposed to set an Obama-style bounty of ten million in the first place?
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:33 pm
That is true but if muslims do not feel they are ok in a country they will react. The reaction is to not report people who are highly suspicious. It is harmful whenever someone labels them all terrorists because of this fact. Observation has led me to think this especially in Thailand where the south is no different to Iraq but Bangkok is peaceful. There is a combination of 2 things that has caused this in my opinion. The further you move from bangkok the more the people don’t like the government and the lower the wealth and in the south it happens there were muslims there. Those of the North and North East were recruited by the former PM before he was deposed to beat up on protestors against him. Just pointing out the buddhists in outlying areas are prone to recruitment by bad forces also. So the bangkok muslims do feel they are being looked after therefore can’t be recruited to carry out terrorist acts. Even in the south it only takes a very small number to cause a lot of damage. There are other issues but this is a reasonable summary without going into detail.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 10:34 pm
The breadth and profundity of the subject matter you’re bringing to Catallaxy is a thrill to all of us, FDB. Thanks for sharing.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 10:35 pm
Presumably you think it is acceptable for a British peer to advocate terrorism as long as his cheques bounce?
Quentin George
16 Apr 12 at 10:35 pm
Mk50,
SA is so like that troll we had around here until recently that took weeks to figure out how to get the block quotes right. We unfortunately seem to be attractive to a certain type of troll.
Token
16 Apr 12 at 10:39 pm
Its a smear campaign, pure and simple, because he is a Muslim who has called for Bush and Blair to be hauled before the ICC.
And Labour is running scared because of the Galloway victory.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:39 pm
All he’d have to do is send an sms out into the
ummaether and he’d have people lining up to donate, Samson.nilk
16 Apr 12 at 10:41 pm
So when Lord Nosy Ahmed put a bounty on Obama and Bush was it ‘dead or alive’? Did he stipulate that at all?
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 10:41 pm
Token
It took me months lol still don’t know what the “code” and “Close Tags” are for.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 10:42 pm
Breivik would be proud of British Labour.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:42 pm
The text according to The Guardian:
Token
16 Apr 12 at 10:43 pm
What does SA best match to. Socialist Advocate? Stupid A***hole? Sodomite Available? Sensationally Arrogant?
The possibilities are endless.
Mk50 of Brisbane
16 Apr 12 at 10:43 pm
You come out with the most asinine comments Bobster.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 10:44 pm
Token, that’s one in support of “Stupid A***hole”
Mk50 of Brisbane
16 Apr 12 at 10:45 pm
Y’reckon its the return of the internet vermin, JC?
Mk50 of Brisbane
16 Apr 12 at 10:46 pm
He falls over himself trying to be controversial. lol
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 10:46 pm
While I was at the Guardian I found this amazing story about how the UK is reliving the politics of the progressive era
Why does the UK fund such barbarity? Come on, why are progressives across the globe reviving the programs of social darwinism?
Token
16 Apr 12 at 10:47 pm
“code” is an antiquated html tag these days, harking back to the time when the internet was still dominated by geeks. It is, quite simply, the font that you’re supposed to use when you’re posting raw computer code…
and it looks like this.Yeah I know. It’s not much different to regular text.
“Close tags” is a nice thing to click if you accidentally left an open tag (such as an open blockquote or italics.)
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 10:47 pm
Labour suspended him without even informing of the fact.
Muslims who may have said ‘scary stuff’ against nice people like Bush and Blair have to receive their thrashing.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:48 pm
He really does, doesn’t he?
Upcoming Bob:
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 10:50 pm
The Egytian Coptic babe was too much for bob.
Beautiful, intelligent and rational.
None of which is applicable to nasty bob whose brain has long been well pickled by the sauce
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 10:51 pm
Muslims who may have said ‘scary stuff’ against nice people like Bush and Blair have to receive their thrashing.
Or perhaps you might ponder that titled peers are not supposed to be dabbling in high treason.
Quentin George
16 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
Oh please, Samson. We’re talking people who will riot at the drop of a cartoon and kill bystanders.
We all know that you’re not supposed to insult islam because it can get you killed, and the fatwa is still hanging over Rushdie’s head – too bad a couple of his translators weren’t so fortunate (God rest their souls).
nilk
16 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
And fair enough too.
Whatever you think of Bush and Blair, they were political leaders of Western nations. They’re not criminals. You don’t issue bounties on their heads without consequence.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 10:53 pm
And? You’re suggesting this is against party rules, against the law, break human rights treaties. What the point of this comment bobster?
Has be been thrashed or just thrown out of the party you over the top fool.
Bobster are you in some way worried about yourself here, concerned that one day you’ll really say something totally outlandish and stupid for the labor will have to throw you out to the party?
JC
16 Apr 12 at 10:53 pm
I missed the Egytian Coptic babe.
Where is she at?
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 10:56 pm
So population control by forced sterilisation because of the climate change fear-mongering scam, led by the UN’s IPCC, they acknowledged:
So they knew what they were doing was wrong. Morally and ethically. And went ahead anyway.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 10:57 pm
Wow, She was really really cute and made lots of sense. I didn’t even have to invoke the JC rule with her that says cute women that say silly things have a right to speak out as much as they like.
Compared to Von Roxon and the idiot Geoffrey Robertson.
Bob doesn’t seem to like goodlooking confident and articulate conservative females.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 10:58 pm
We only have a newspaper report and in all seriousness – who issues bounties on anyone unless:
- theyre crazy
- theyre being sarcastic
- theyre the POTUS
And he has denied using the word bounty, but as he’s not crazy and not the POTUS, he could only have been sarcastic.
In any event, he denies it.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 10:58 pm
JC
Are you a member of a political party and if you are which one?
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 10:59 pm
Israel banning Guenther Grass for what he said is an obscenity.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 11:00 pm
Still required reading for those concerned by the communist heathen in the White House and the band of Star Wars bar scene lunatics he brought with him to Washington:
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
I don’t give a flying fuck for royal titles. “Titled Peers” are only allegedly better than me or mine because some unelected inbred Euroweenie who other allegedly-sane people believe has “magic blood” says they are. What bothers me more is that elected representatives of so-called liberal democracies who pull this shit are tolerated and defended by other so-called supporters of liberal democracy.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
Q&A.
She was critical of some particular action of the Israeli government over an issue that actually showed how one can be critical and fair…not cloaked in some anti-Jew hatred the left practices these days.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
More hate meeja by the eeevil Doc from Mour:
The Sun: 48% of Brits want to get out of the UK
Shock Sun survey shows almost half are ready to emigrate overseas
We need to cut immigration and strict border control at Bondi
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:02 pm
Must be getting paid. You don’t come up with champagne comedy like that if you’re just an amateur trier.
Tom
16 Apr 12 at 11:03 pm
lol..
That’s like the question on a US visa they used to have asking if you or a parent were ever members of the German Nazi party.
LDP, but i let it expire.
Why, shuggerlugs?
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:03 pm
I have to admit Roxon performed very very well tonight.
Sad but true.
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:03 pm
That’s what the copt gal talked about and suggested the Israeli government should never have done it as it sends out the wrong message about liberalism and that he’s a fucking idiot anyways. It demonstrated a little hypocrisy on the part of the Israelis. Fair enough.
Bob, obscene is this the Liars Party in Coalition with the Greenslime. Obscene is your remorseless stupidity and Carr thinking you a genius. That’s obscene. What Israel did was wrong and a mistake.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:07 pm
JC
Curious as seems like you would want to be in a political party. Also I will be sending off an application probably tomorrow to the LNP if they will accept a ratbag like me.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 11:08 pm
We cool, we cool.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 11:08 pm
splatacrobat
16 Apr 12 at 11:08 pm
Stupid SA sez:
But Lord Ahmed sez:
hmmm…which one is lying?
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
The questions were all softball leftwing questions and the audience was mostly Greenslime so she would get a decent hearing from those turkeys, no surprise there. It was a softball program anyway.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
Well lets hope they don’t Kelly. it would 1/2 the IQ.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:10 pm
Wow. The biggest scandal to rock Queensland since the former Labor Opposition Leader was jailed for raping children.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:11 pm
Big mistake letting them in here. Huge mistake.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:12 pm
You got linked by Instapundit? Congrats Spot. That’s a moment of internet fame.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Assuming SA’s link is correct I can’t do much worse than that.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Iran congratulates Gunter Grass over anti-Israel poem
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Blair’s latest is a classic.
Snippet:
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
i mean quote
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
IT will be most disheartened when he sees that story about 48% of Poms say they want to come here.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:14 pm
What do you like about the ldp kelly?
Big dumb fu
16 Apr 12 at 11:14 pm
No comments allowed on the Anita Heiss ABC site this evening.
And we have some lefties here feeling qualified to talk about free speech. LOL.
Lazlo
16 Apr 12 at 11:15 pm
Big
I am joining LNP.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 11:16 pm
First Adam Baldwin… then James Taranto… then Insty … next step THE WORLD!
Bwahahahahaha.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 11:16 pm
So what’s with the 52%?
Lazlo
16 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
Hahahahahaha
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
The Honourable Spot is now famous.
Well done, Spot.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
sdog owes that Colombian slut bigtime.
Mentions by Glenn Reynolds and James Taranato from the same tweet
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
Says it all. What a poor, silly old man is Grass. He has never come to terms with his admittedly minor and explicable role in the activities of wartime Nazi Germany. He was a kid, really, but still the enormity of the guilt and the wrongness of it all damaged him psychically for life. It’s eaten away at him and consequently he has obsessed about the nation of Israel for years.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
Steady on Spot, he’s a Labour peer.
Blair’s ZaNuLabour supplied that ermine, not magic blood. ZaNuLabour also saw to it that he served only sixteen days in the chokey for vehicular manslaughter.
lotocoti
16 Apr 12 at 11:19 pm
There’s more on that grass idiot here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/apr/12/gunter-grass-israel-ban-stasi
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
Leftists.
Geddit?
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
splatacrobat
16 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
Lydia was great on Q&A, standing up to the pompous Robertson.. Not to mention Jones, the interrupting idiot
Lazlo
16 Apr 12 at 11:21 pm
Iran, at least in this instance, defends free speech.
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 11:21 pm
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:22 pm
You need your own blog, mate. Not just a twitter account. Go buy yourself a 10 buck domain name.
daddy dave
16 Apr 12 at 11:22 pm
Iran defends free speech? WTF?
Lazlo
16 Apr 12 at 11:23 pm
Spot majorly rules.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:23 pm
Grass’ poem is of course an anti-nuclear weapons poem and accuses both Iran and Israel, not that you would know that from the press:
Samson Agonistes
16 Apr 12 at 11:23 pm
OMG, you put that thought bubble writing, didn’t you SA.
Token
16 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
and he’s a fine Southern gentleman as well.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:25 pm
I was thoroughly underwhelmed by AC Grayling, and as for G Robertson, dear, oh dear. Could you imagine the cat fight if these two ever had to share a bathroom. Look, I hope the HMS AC Grayling steams past South Head before he leaves our shores. Last report: HMS Dawkins sunk. Survivors seen on shore. Evidence of cannibalism.
dover_beach
16 Apr 12 at 11:26 pm
Lefty Haaeretz: The moral blindness of Gunter Grass
The German writer is the last person who should be speaking out against the Jews’ doomsday weapon
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
lotocoti is correct – Ahmed became a peer after the British Labour Party castrated the House of Lords and filled it with hacks.
Quentin George
16 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
I know my limitations, mate. I failed English Comp. I peak at 140 characters.
sdog
16 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
You are an arrant liar.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
Complete and total shit Bob, and if you can’t tell the difference then you really are a retard and should be seeking treatment.
Israel is not threatening to wipe a neighbour state off the map. Iran is. Your cultural relativism is on a par with the Nazis, and I am not joking.
Lazlo
16 Apr 12 at 11:30 pm
James
All true. They still should have let him in.Perhaps a Jewish survivor would have slapped in one.
However reminding the fuck of his Waffen SS days does a bit of good.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:31 pm
Bob
Does Bob Carr know his speech writer would say this shit in public. I guess you know him so these sorts of disturbing conversations would go on, yea?
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
He’s no anti-semite JC.
Exactly as dd said.
It’s his leftism that’s got the better of him.
It’s all rather sad.
His type backed Chamberlain and Daladier in the late 30′s
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
Andrew Bolt channels his inner Finkelstein:
Thanks for watching it for the great unwashed, Andrew. They can’t be trusted, after all.
A secret trial, a miserable and humiliating execution? Would a crucifixion fit the bill?
This is the exact opposite of what the Allies wisely chose to do at Nuremberg.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:37 pm
The Nazis were cultural relativists?
O…kay…
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 11:38 pm
I’m not buying that he’s no anti-Semite, James. Nearly all the European left is anti-Semite these days like here on Australia.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:38 pm
Yea and they taped one fuckers mouth when he wouldn’t shut up.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:39 pm
I don’t think Nuremburg was da place for showmanship and grandstanding if u sat in da dock CL.
Capital punishment was definitely on da agenda.
I don’t think ur being fair to Bolt
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:44 pm
lol !
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
No dickhead. Bob basically ends up in Nazi Ave. most of the time he spouts shit about this.
You really have difficulty with comprehension at this time of night reefer boy.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:48 pm
James, must your comments read like a Wu Tang lyric sheet?
It’s so fucking lame dude.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 11:49 pm
What on earth are you babbling about now JC? You think the Nazis were into cultural relativism too?
They were absolutely DEFINED by their cultural absolutism you deranged numbskull.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
Nuremberg was an open trial, James. There was no TV but news reels of it were dispatched throughout the world and pressmen attended by the hundred. It was in no conceivable way secret. Secret trials are an abomination to any democrat. Advocating a wilfully cruel and unusual execution (also secret) – or, indeed, any execution – is appalling.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
Sez da paragon o’ cool?
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
Aaron Parsons: he could have been Obama’s son.
Oh wait…
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:53 pm
Agree 100% CL.
Bolt’s off his rocker here – though probably just having a poke at the hornet’s nest as usual rather than meaning what he says.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
Since LP’s demise, the rate of “ism” usage has increased rapidly at the Cat.
Gab
16 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
I know you’re heavily self medicated at this time of night, but the point was that Lazlo wouldn’t disagree with that, you idiot. You missed the point.
You shouldn’t be on here after 3 joints, as it’s not fair on the rest of the people here.
JC
16 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
A pirate rapper now?
Well, I guess that’s an improvement.
FDB
16 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
Bolt sez it should carried out ‘quietly’ or ‘almost secretly’
He’s not calling for a secret trial but less of da sensationalism is all I suspect.
It’s lefty wonderland obscene.
Leftist laws cause this farce.
Breivik is being completely rational in the circumstances.
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:57 pm
Bolt is probably just emotional about it and when calmer would put a different view.
kelly liddle
16 Apr 12 at 11:58 pm
Ismphobe.
You should be arrested.
C.L.
16 Apr 12 at 11:59 pm
Yeah.
Bolt shud be calm and rational like you Kelly.
JamesK
16 Apr 12 at 11:59 pm
JC, Lazlo said the following:
The only interpretation available is that Lazlo thinks that both SA and the Nazis (or I suppose neither, which kinda neuters the comment) were into cultural relativism.
I dunno about you, but I’m going to go with the only plausible interpretation available, rather than spouting deranged nonsense and not explaining what I mean and stuff.
But y’know, you please yourself…
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 12:01 am
I think Bolt is coming from the angle of why give the murdering anarchist any air time and why put the relatives through the pain of watching that lunatic appear almost pleased with himself.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:04 am
James I am not a national figure.
But saying leftist laws caused this what are you talking about? Caused what?
You also say less sensationalism then why the humiliation in the execution that is a contradiction.
Just leave it as an emotional outburst.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
FDB
When you’re on your 3rd reefer for the evening you tend to read deeply into shit and make gargantuan mountains out of molehills.
Laz’s comment was a throw away line to show that Bob’s is careering down nazi ave in a Volkswagen at 100 mph. He was just trying to warn the old goat that his antisemitism is beginning to look like what the Nazis believed.
Now go sleep it off.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:07 am
Because you need to be consistent in your application of the rule of law, not chuck your standards in the bin just because someone’s done something particularly bad.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 12:08 am
FDB
Honest question which drugs are you doing these days? Just curious is all.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:08 am
Cultural relativism as in “unter mensch”. Is that clear enough?
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
JC – another grand, sweeping, majestic fail. Lazlo made a quite specific comment which was laughably wrong. I had a laugh at him for it.
Get over it man.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
So they televise all trials?
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
And you know if Norway allows the judges leeway like say the US to allow cameras in court unlike here.
In the US the judge can also close a court if he so chooses.
STFU. You dunno what you’re talking about. see above.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
It’s clear that you don’t know what cultural relativism is Lazlo.
Whuich leads me to ask – why use the term?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 12:11 am
Snap.
He’s on his 3rd reefer and he gets all philosophical especially at this time of night.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:12 am
Hope his girlfriend gets home soon.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:12 am
So going back 107 years and reinstating the death penalty is the way to go is it.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:13 am
What was the laugh FDB – please share the joke?
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:14 am
The removal of capital punishment as an option
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:15 am
He used to be like the obedient house pet when he was last here. Scared of his own shadow.
He now over compensates in case he gets called a leftie weenie and stuff. He wants to be known as a mans man. Tough and ready to do battle. As though we can’t see though that thin veneer.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:16 am
So which party was in power in 1905 in Norway and what made them of the left James?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
Yes…… but ur time scales are farcically wrong
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
Yes. It was a better world when we had capital punishment. Discuss.
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
Are we talkin’ kelly or FDB?
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:18 am
FDB
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:21 am
You referred to the Nazis engaging in cultural relativism, when the entire point of their ideology was the exact opposite.
Not, admittedly, laugh out loud funny. Particularly not for you I guess.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 12:21 am
Justice must be done and be seen to be done.
If you want this cowardly scumbag in Norway to inspire an army of imitators the best possible thing you could do would be to try him secretly and quickly – and then put him to death in a cruel and unusual way, sub rosa.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
At its core, cultural relativism is the acknowledgement that a person who does something We think is horrible might be doing something noble in Their own worldview. As such it is just logically irrefutable fact.
However, it has come to mean “all cultures are the same and all morality is equally good or bad so, like, whatevs” to people who basically are stupid.
wreckage
17 Apr 12 at 12:24 am
Since DNA there have been many let go because they were innocent after rotting in jail waiting for the death penalty in the US. To accept the death penalty you must accept that no policeman could ever be corrupt and no judge could ever be corrupt and in the case of jury trials that they would never get it wrong.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:25 am
I’m OK with capital punishment. They should have shot Bryant’s brains out when they had him in their sites in 96. No question.
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:26 am
As such, under the first definition, it might be possible to argue the Nazis were cultural relativists? They were certainly moral relativists; rounding up non-Jews and murdering them was simply not done, no civilised person would act so! On the other hand, when it’s Jews, (and gypsys, gays, etc.,) suddenly herding civilians into death-camps was A-OK.
wreckage
17 Apr 12 at 12:28 am
CL
The loon that killed 200 people in the Oklahoma bombings was tried in the regular court, where the judge allowed no cameras, the verdict was handed down and the fuckers was executed soon after. It was clean, cool and crisp. There were no reprisals after that either.
This fucker has the cameras on him and he performs his bullshit about not recognizing the judicial system and crap like that.
If McVeigh tried that shit he would have have been bound and gagged, although given the opportunity to speak and if he tried to talk nonsense the judge would have had him gagged again.
This is a circus as they are allowing the prick to dictate some of the court drama.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:29 am
The old saw about a martyr is mostly bollocks; usually if you kill the leader the movement evaporates.
wreckage
17 Apr 12 at 12:31 am
Ur talkin’ nonsense again Kelly.
Tell us one man who was wrongly executed in the USA since WWII
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:33 am
Sure, what was to be achieved to keep Bryant alive? There should have been a humane killing.
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:33 am
This is a good thing it makes him look like a fool and people will not want to follow him. The maximum 21 years sentence is a bit of a concern. What if he can’t be rehabilitated?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:33 am
I don’t know but I am sure they exist. James why do you want the state to have more power? If you accept the legal system in the US it is more expensive to kill someone so why would you bother just let them sit in jail and if they are found innocent at a later date they can be freed. The death penalty is final and can’t be reversed at all.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
And why exactly should we fear the 1 in a million who was executed after after being falsely been found guilty.
Should we also not then imprison any criminal for a crime?
We might steal an innocent’s only irrecovable commodity: time.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:37 am
Why are you sure?
I mean if one was known he would be famous.
Da Left would be screamin’ his name morning, night and noon.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:39 am
James this seems a strange arguement coming from you who is so pro-life that killing a few innocent adults is ok.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:40 am
I’m pretty sure there were reporters at the McVeigh trial, JC. It wasn’t secret and it wasn’t rushed. Bolt opposes the televisation of the Breivik trial and then relates to his readers what he saw and learned while watching it. He assumes other people might race off and shoot people. This is Finkelsteinian. It’s exactly why the Fink said the little people couldn’t be trusted with their reading and viewing habits.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 12:40 am
Kelly, being executed in the US is not an easy task. There are numerous appeals that have to be gone through and the SCOTUS takes a look at every single one. There is also the possibility of the governor of the state commuting the sentence, or its Federal the president.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:42 am
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-and-innocence
Here is 130 wrongful convictions since 1973 but fortunately they got released eventually.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:44 am
JC
I know which is a good thing. The fact is it costs more to kill someone than let them live so why kill them. It is only for revenge.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:45 am
Kelly,
You freaking dig bat. The criminal court convicts and the higher courts judges take another look at the case as far as the SCOTUS.
So your stupid link is actually showing the system is working effectively as the higher courts are doing their work.
Appeals aren’t nothing you dildo.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:47 am
So, Briant would be one of them? What is your excuse for him kelly?
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:47 am
Oooh Kelly!!!: Moral equiavlency alert!!!!!!!!
So potentially 1 in a million adulta wrongly executed after due process (and you can’t show 1 in the last 60 years in the USA) versus many milllions killed yearly around da world in the the advanced 21 st century ‘civilization’.
Ur a clown Kelly.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:48 am
Retribution. And if they cost more they cost more. Should we lower the incarceration time of a murderer if it costs more? So argument makes no sense.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:48 am
JC
How can you call it working if it costs more money than letting them stay in jail?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:49 am
Here’s a list of wrongful executions in the US.
Surely it’s uncontroversial that there will be wrongful convictions from time to time, and therefore wrongful executions, rare though they may be.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
More evidence that Breivik is a counter-Jihandist:
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
Hanging, drawing and quartering is too good for them..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
JC
The culture of retribution does seem to exist in the US that is why they kill each other at the fastest rate in the developed world.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:51 am
Kelly, it really shouldn’t be about cost. I’m not in favour of the death penalty, but the often-wheeled-out ‘cost’ argument (namely, pointing out how expensive a proper death penalty system is) strikes me as flippant and unserious.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 12:52 am
I’m not sure that’s true but insofar that there is truth in that, it is that is only because of leftists.
Often they are executed a decade or more after original sentencing.
Otherwise it would be appropriately much much cheaper.
As it should.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:52 am
Well, we need to hang a few to show we are serious.. and I am being serious.
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 12:52 am
Because it’s an acceptable price to pay to ensure the convicted criminal is indeed guilty, the crime is truly heinous and the victims have a right to speak from the grave and claim his or her life.
In any event the costs are trumped up by the anti-execution crowd because they include the lawyers time in the effort. However the lawyers are government lawyers on the government side and their salary is fixed anyway, which they would receive if they were working on the case or not.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:53 am
Dontcha ever tire of MSM lefty talkin’ points Kelly?
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:54 am
DD
Cost is a secondary arguement.
Lazlo and James it is not a deterant. The US homicide rate proves that one so your only reason is for revenge?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:55 am
Tell us all about his fellow brotherhood in arms bob.
“Anders Breivik’s manifesto” no less!!
You leftist clown
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:56 am
Eurabia is the term given by right wing extremists to the supposed conspiracy to ‘Islamicise Europe’ and who uses that term besides Breivik and Littman:
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:57 am
Nonsense. The US has serious underclass problems that boosts the murder rate, which is not because of retribution.
The white murder rate is about the same as Europe’s.
It’s important to break these sorts of stats along racial lines in the US to get a better pic of what is going on.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 12:58 am
who sez?
It’s certainly seems to be a deterrent to grandstanding in a murder trial.
It’s a deterrent o murder too.
Of that I have no doubt.
But even deterrence is not needed for capital punishment to be a moral imperative in the trial of particularly heinous murderers
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:59 am
Thank you JC for putting the case for capital punishment. We have been put off by Dostoevsky, The Idiot, for too long.
We need a pro cap-push movement. I’m sure I can find it among new Australians..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:00 am
You are probably right as I have no idea but it is very sad if what you say is true.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:00 am
this is funny. Samson just posts crap and never engages in a discussion.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 1:00 am
The death penalty deterrent.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 1:01 am
An old European celebrated Italian Leftist who thinks Islam is incompatible with the secular west.
Bobster, as an atheist you would be missing your head in the first wave of a Taliban style government.
Stop being a fucking moron, you old clown.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:02 am
And Chimerica is the term by right wing extemists in the supposed conspiracy to but debt laden America outa hegemony.
Oh wait! That’s true too…..
U really are a pathetic excuse of manhood bob
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:03 am
Good research, Guardian.
The reporter visited three blogs.
Well, they have. Tony Blair’s speech-writer admitted it:
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:04 am
It’s not Kelly.
It’s uplifting.
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free”
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:06 am
DD
Interesting article.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:06 am
Samson, I have no problem conceding that when Breivik voted (if he voted) it would probably have been for right-of-centre parties. Certainly he read and followed, and sympathised with, several voices on the right.
However, it’s a logical fallacy to attribute cause here. John Lennon was assassinated by a guy who was obsessed with the book “Catcher in the Rye.” That doesn’t make it a dangerous book.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 1:07 am
James
People killing people is sad I don’t care what you say.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:08 am
Muslim-haters running a conspiracy theory about Europe capitulating to Islam – Eurabia – propogated by people who are promoted on this blog.
And Breivik is neither left nor right, but bad and mad? Hiding something?
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:08 am
This term was coined by Niall Ferguson, a very intelligent person who was at Oxford and now at Harvard, and spouse to Hirsii Ali
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
Contemplative prayer is good Kelly.
But you could just simply think.
I’m sorry if you lack the necessary wherewithal
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:10 am
And who wouldn’t wanna ‘spouse’ Hirsii Ali?
Presumably thyat’s why Niall left his wife and kids for her.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:11 am
There’s no logical fallacy involved.
Right wing extremist Muslim-hatred is loathsome in its own right, whereas ‘Catcher in the Rye’ is not.
Or is your argument, daddy dimwit, that there is some secret politics in the book that everyone has missed
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:12 am
Did he?
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:13 am
Bob
Tell you what. Count up all the deaths caused by leftist lunatics around the world, add them up then do the same for those that could be claimed to be rightwing inspired.
Leave out leftwing Nazi Germany out of the pic as that would cause you endless hassle.
Start the count from the first commie wave of the French Revolution.
Don’t forget to count JFK, killed by a left wing assassin and not a gun crazy Texan nut as leftists want to lie about.
Go.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:13 am
I think you’ll find it is.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:14 am
Hirsi Ali – the woman who turned the story of her life into a cock-and-bull story bearing no resemblance to truth and is still seen as somebody worth listening to?
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:14 am
What have you got against Catcher in the Rye?
He’s having a go at the lily’s now!
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:15 am
The ‘Catcher’ is one of the most over-rated novels in the English laguage, but that’s another story.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:16 am
Having a go at the flowers now..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:16 am
Old news, Bobster, you old clown. Leftists threw her under a bus ages ago.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:16 am
Correct,, Samson. It’s a political book, no question. That’s why it’s force fed to generations of american school kids.
Specifically it is misanthropic and anti-establishment.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 1:17 am
You really are a fruit cake:
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:17 am
She’s a babe bob.
Besides which she’s brave, intelligent and rational as well.
So completely unlike you then.
Plus she’s not an alcoholic
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:18 am
Novels don’t exist in order to edify::
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:19 am
The pen is mightier than the sword or for a modern day version the video is mightier than the sword.
If anyone bothered to read my comments above I did explain in basic terms why labelling all muslims terrorists is extremely dangerous and if the tone of any high profile people in Europe did or do this they are endangering their countries.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:19 am
That’s a strong call, for someone who cannot back up the wimpish claim and without the evidence to back it up. You really are a pathetic wanker.
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:20 am
The story of her stories about herself are easily consultable.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
C’mon bob and kelly – bring it on..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:25 am
Lazlo
Bring what on? I can’t speak for SA but I have nothing to bring on.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:26 am
Consultable – arf arf!
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:26 am
SA knows what I mean, and you are just dissembling, as usual – left wing twats..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:28 am
The several people killed by the Occupy terrorists were directly inspired by Barack Obama.
“God bless them,” said Nancy Pelosi.
Have at it.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:29 am
I’m tired of being labelled: ‘consultable’ or somesuch.
Still its better than a fuckwit alcoholic leftist calling a ‘the stories’ of a far superior human being in every way to him ‘consultable’
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 1:29 am
SA stands for savoir absolu, as well.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:31 am
God bless you CL and JamesK. Save us from the barbarians..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:32 am
Millions of people have been killed by people who consulted the Bible.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:33 am
I am now a barbarian because I say very few muslims are terrorists?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:33 am
lets have a quick look at the numbers. 300 000 muslims in Australia a total of 0 terrorist attacks. Gee thats a scarey number.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:35 am
No, because you are a thicko. Simple enough?
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:36 am
Kelly, you’re a barbarian anyaway.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:36 am
I’ll pay that one.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:37 am
You must be on drugs..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:37 am
Wow, the glove may really have fit and the jury may have been right not to convict.
Maybe.
Evidence Collected By A Private Investigator Suggests That OJ Simpson’s Son Was The Real Killer
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/oj-simpson-murders-2012-4#ixzz1sDajSzFW
http://www.businessinsider.com/oj-simpson-murders-2012-4
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:37 am
I think you people are staying up way too late. Your parents’ need to take you to bed, because you are speaking crap..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:39 am
Lazlo
Me and SA were waiting for you big onslaught.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:40 am
So, like The Somme. How does it feel?
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:42 am
JC, I read that theory re OJ last week.
It’s reasonably plausible, though it assumes an heroic degree of love and loyalty from Simpson.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:44 am
Good night Lazlo,SA and Boofhead(thats you JC)
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 1:45 am
That immediately discounts it. Lol
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:45 am
Bad analogy The Somme, complete disaster. Let’s be thankful for small mercies – Murray Rose dead after 4 months of diagnosis for leukemia.
God bless you all..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:46 am
This is your must-read essay of the day right here:
Pascal Bruckner in City Journal…
Apocalyptic Daze: Secular elites prophesy a doomsday without redemption.
This is an important piece.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:46 am
That was for all of youse barstards, kelly, SA, rabz, jc, and especially gab..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:53 am
OOps and Cl..
Lazlo
17 Apr 12 at 1:55 am
God bless you too, Laz, you bastard.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:56 am
FDB
You clown. Get back here and apologize for your reefer fueled deranged behavior.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 1:59 am
Yes, you’re right, hundreds of millions …
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 2:02 am
Goodnight, John-Boy. Goodnight, Mary-Ellen.
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 2:19 am
No. Impoverished and unemployed black people living in urban and rural squalor kill each other at such an astonishing rate that it turns the US’ otherwise unexceptional overall murder rate into a very high murder rate.
Jobs would help. A return to the family unit rather than a culture of abandonment and dependence (on the State) would help as well.
wreckage
17 Apr 12 at 3:01 am
Good morning, all.
For Gab @12.04am on giving the nfms any oxygen. here’s one reason why he’s getting more than enough.
There is no way this is going to be an orderly, lawful trial. It’s going to be an utter dog’s breakfast (sorry, Spot), and it will be all downhill from here, I reckon.
nilk
17 Apr 12 at 6:47 am
British peer defends leader of organisation that conducted the Mumbai attacks. It must be April fools…
Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote the droghte of march hath perced to the roote…
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 7:22 am
That’s an excellent article.
I’m just trying to think: who can I send this to?
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 8:16 am
American multiculturalism going well:
29 Somali Muslim Gang Members Indicted for Kidnapping, Raping and Selling Underage Girls.
It’s the largest human trafficking case in US history.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 8:40 am
Mitt fail?
CNN poll has Obama in an unassailable lead.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 8:42 am
Abbott, Abbott, Abbott.
The more this government advertises for him, the more people like him.
All I can say is Lie-bore / Green-slimers, keep up the free markeing for Tony, its working
Token
17 Apr 12 at 8:57 am
Great get, Daddy:
My own interim theory is that the current catastrophism epidemic in the West is an endgame of Christian guilt and self-loathing when the deprivation upon which they were built is relieved by the arrival of affluence.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 8:57 am
Is anyone at all surprised? Really?
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 9:08 am
Mitt fail? Obama in lead? Julia fail? Abbot in lead
but who cares – they all prostitute their principles after they arrive and their creditors demand a return for what they tipped into their begging bowls on the way up – and into their begging bowls for the next election – and the pork into their begging bowls for their own electorates.
To even imagine we have any political choice seems bizarre to me.
I may as well vote for my dog. At least he is an honest carnivore and doesnt deny it.
Alice
17 Apr 12 at 9:28 am
Australia evacuates troops from the Afghan quagmire, hurrah!
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 9:32 am
Monty
It really doesn’t matter if Romney or Obama win they are the same. A balanced budget in 30 years which is apparently Romneys plan won’t happen the dollar will collapse one day it is just a matter of time. Only true difference I can find is money for defense versus money for green energy.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 9:39 am
Kelly
Ur utterly stupid because u persist in ur silliness when reality has been pointed out to you on multiple occasions.
I’ll try one last time and I’m not enthusiastic for Snoremitten:
http://keithhennessey.com/2012/03/21/comparing-the-ryan-and-obama-long-term-deficits-and-debt/
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 9:46 am
Credit where credit is due, Bob.
Good defence of Mel Gibson. it’s a pity his new movie idea isn’t going to be made
http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2012/04/16/the-esterhas-fallout-jew-hating-as-a-private-pastime/
jtfsoon
17 Apr 12 at 9:48 am
“the Afghan quagmire”
Wasn’t always thus.
http://www.retronaut.co/2010/10/once-upon-a-time-in-afghanistan/
Jarrah
17 Apr 12 at 9:50 am
Whoever wins is going to have to eat a number of bowls of the proverbial starting right after the election. The manufacturing-led recovery, which is just starting to feed through with U6 below 15% for the first time since Obama was sworn in, will have to survive the short-term shock of the federal budget cuts.
The greenback collapsing would actually be great for the US economy in many ways. They could export their way out of trouble like a normal country. But of course they’re not normal.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 9:52 am
Australia prepares to farewell troops for the Iranian imbroglio, hiss.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 9:54 am
Fascinating story though I wish the newspapers would stop printing headlines with ‘higher IQ than Einstein’. Einstein never took an IQ test. No one knows what it was
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369595/Jacob-Barnett-12-higher-IQ-Einstein-develops-theory-relativity.html
jtfsoon
17 Apr 12 at 9:55 am
City Journal need an Android app pronto.
dover_beach
17 Apr 12 at 9:56 am
“Whatever you think of Bush and Blair, they were political leaders of Western nations. They’re not criminals.”
Because political leaders of Western nations can’t be criminals?
Jarrah
17 Apr 12 at 10:00 am
James
The link you gave doesn’t seem to work but even if it did I am not likely to change my mind.
That is true so long as it is slow but it does mean people get poorer. No more $5 shirts or $3 gasoline. It is interesting to see what the market thinks with US gov Bonds. The market only gives a 3.12% return on 30 years which implies almost no growth and a strong dollar. I think the market is wrong but James or JC can hold out hope that Romney will change everything. The difference I see between Japan and US is the US has a lot of foreign debt and Japan does not. Of course I realise I might be wrong about what happens but something will.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:11 am
I know it must be difficult for u Jarrah but do at least try not to be facile.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 10:15 am
Well I didn’t ever hold out much hope but as I said I thought I should at least make one last try.
The link is good the site is temporarily down.
And nothing you said in ur last comment has got much to do with the price of potatoes either
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 10:22 am
I was watching a fine film from 1975 the other night, reflecting the views of a century before.
They’re savages, here.___ Leave ‘em all to go back to slaughtering babes and playing stick ‘n’ ball with one another’s heads, and pissing on their neighbours.
lotocoti
17 Apr 12 at 10:22 am
Disgusting lefty Ted Ballieu decides he won’t scrap mandatory energy ratings for new homes in Victoria, after all.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 10:29 am
I love the UK Daily Mail – one of the world’s great newspapers:
Leighton Meester shows off her pert derriere in a Brazilian style bikini as she frolics in sea with new boyfriend in Rio.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 10:32 am
Costello’s jobs-for-the-boys pay for two days a fortnight:
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 10:39 am
“Joe Biden” – the Bad Lip-Reading edition
This is hilarious (though not entirely safe for work).
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 10:41 am
And the Rick Perry version – HAHAHAHAHA!
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 10:44 am
Everybody does. Except maybe communists.
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 10:48 am
The comedic impact of the Biden send-up is lessened by the fact that it’s not noticeably distinguishable from the actual Biden.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 10:49 am
The worse the economy performs the more the unproductive rich take:
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 11:17 am
SA
So you think US tax rates should become even less competitive? The only tax break is no tax on overseas investment earnings. Personal view they should tax overseas investments as Aus does but at a lower rate and tax foreign wage income less.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:31 am
no tax on overseas investment earnings unless repatriated then a 15% rate applies.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:34 am
One of the Greens’ pre-emiment Fifth Columnists inside the zombie media imagines himself as Christine Milne’s new campaign manager.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 11:37 am
Plonko Greeno pinko.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 11:39 am
James Pethokoukis, American Enterprise:
Obama’s inequality argument just utterly collapsed
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 11:57 am
Jarrah says facilely. Alice agrees just as facilely.
“Because political leaders of Western nations can’t be criminals?”
Thats only because they dont get charged and usually get pardoned by the incoming CEOs (you know the speech “we have to move on and put this all behind us”).
Credit card crime, limo abuse crimes, wiretapping crimes, tax cheat crimes, civil liberty crimes, tax theft crimes, you name it. Which political leader of a western nation hasnt been a criminal is a good question to ask?
Answer – none. They dont get charged for their crimes.
Crime is only for little people.
Alice
17 Apr 12 at 12:00 pm
Well, given Costello would’ve been earning more than that as a barrister BEFORE spending a decade as the nation’s Treasurer, you might say he’s performing this gig as a charity do.
Peter Patton
17 Apr 12 at 12:04 pm
not nearly as unproductive as the space between your ears. which cuckolded lefty type are you?
on par with obama or better?
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 12:05 pm
Roman Law inheritance. The law doesn’t apply to the Emperor, and the Emperor makes the law.
Peter Patton
17 Apr 12 at 12:05 pm
That’s an amazing bargain for someone who’s run a national economy very successfully for 11 years. If you were to get a senior consultant/partner from McKinseys or Deloittes they’d charge double that and wouldn’t have a tenth of the experience.
papachango
17 Apr 12 at 12:09 pm
The ICC somewhat abrogates Roman law, but yes it doesn’t apply to American and British Emperors.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:10 pm
So Liberal Jobs for Liberal Boys is an amazing bargain, funny that!
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:11 pm
God bless Silvio Berlusconi. That’s what I like to see – REAL Roman Catholics. There’s something to be said for Latin nuns. Whatever happened in the translation from Italy to Ireland? Ah, to be sure, to be sure, twas a crying shame.
Stripper nuns danced for Berlusconi: trial
http://www.theage.com.au/world/stripper-nuns-danced-for-berlusconi-trial-20120417-1x49f.html#ixzz1sGAEJNSW
Peter Patton
17 Apr 12 at 12:13 pm
SA – compare and contrast to to how much Labor pay their mates like:
Shannon’s Way,
Bruce Hawker,
Conroy’s bestie given the cushy job of head of NBN at $400k
The head of government relation for the NBN at a hiogh 6-figure salary (WTF? they ARE the government)
that ‘white witch’ woman who consults for local councils etc etc.
Costello is MUCH better value, and most likely the best candidate for the job as well.
papachango
17 Apr 12 at 12:20 pm
The audit Costello is performing is not an audit, but a political process to justify some sort of putative ‘reform process’ that the LNP was too scared to put to the voters, but now they don’t have to worry about votes for the next ten years all they is need is some sort of pseudo-objective report to do what they want.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:23 pm
What do you expect from our Labor troll? This is Labor bog standard.
Moral outrage over Coaltion governments spending thousands to deflect attention from the fact Lie-Bore / Greenslime governments squander millions on subsidies and billions on green boondoggles.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 12:24 pm
Yes, well, Liberals and Labourites all feather their own nest, but Newman promised to be different yet obviously he’s not.
I’m not the hypocrite, Newman is for suggesting he would break the rules.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:29 pm
I hope you are right. $13000 debt every man woman and child and projected to increase by about $3500 in the next 4 years. Slash and burn is needed urgently. Another ratings downgrade and we will really be in the shit.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:30 pm
It gives me great comfort that “Samson” hates Newman. Just says Newman is on the right track.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:31 pm
Queensland Labor – previously led by two jailed child rapists – is out, Samson, and they’re not coming back for a long time.
You need to suck that up.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 12:32 pm
Ok Samson, are you able to proivde an opinion on the shopping list of boondoggles that PAPACHANGO has listed or do you only able to comment on Abbott, Abbott, Abbott and Newman, Newman, Newman?
Token
17 Apr 12 at 12:33 pm
Costello’s income is only that of a backbencher. So if it achieves decent cuts then it is not too much.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 12:34 pm
As Bunyip notes, #TheirABC has finally let some comments through on the latest Heiss piece.
Screencap as of about 12:20pm AEST with 46 comments: http://ScrnSht.com/kbixln
I’m out for a while, so hope someone else will check on it occasionally and screencap it.
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 12:36 pm
As for jobs for the boys, it’s worth remembering how the new ‘Opposition’ Leader got her job:
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 12:37 pm
Samson
I will agree that I also cannot stand all these fricking “independent” inquiries, auditors, and bullshit that Australian governments go on with. These people are elected to do the job themselves. Whenever I hear the word ‘independent’, I reach for my revolver.
Peter Patton
17 Apr 12 at 12:37 pm
And while control-printscreen lets you copy an image of what’s on your screen, which you can then paste into a paint program, if you want the whole page (even what’s not on your particular screen) without having to stitch together a number of individual printscreens, try uploadscreenshot.com
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 12:39 pm
You can predict what pickle-head will do long in advance.
He needs to keep up the scare tactics and pseudo-objective reports so he can do what he likes without immediately burning off support.
Votes turned on Bligh for this same reason, so more spin is needed.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:39 pm
Spot, you kindly provided us with a tutorial on how to capture a screenshot thingamyjig. Can you remember which thread that was doen, please??
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:41 pm
As for jobs for the boys, it’s worth remembering how the new ‘Opposition’ Leader got her job
You devil.
dover_beach
17 Apr 12 at 12:42 pm
Too right. Keep watching. Ex-army engineer. Goal-oriented professional. There’s no contemporary equivalent in the sludge of Australian politics, where any shitkicker with an arts degree (or a union card) can get a job, especially on the Left.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 12:42 pm
there are a few people in Queensland who don’t approve of Mr Newman but they’re as rare as unicorns
candy
17 Apr 12 at 12:45 pm
By the by, my screencap of the deleted Random House thread was viewed/downloaded over 1500 times – how many times it was embedded & then viewed elsewhere, I wouldn’t know.
They think they’re wining, but we can beat them at this.
#BeBreitbart #WAR
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
Delay budget – receive Costello’s shocking report – announce horror budget.
There you go, no need to read your local newspaper for the next few months.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
Unicorns are as common as muck for those with eyes to see Candy.
Especially in Queensland.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
The Beattie-Bligh government was one of the most lying, corrupt governments in Queensland history. They presided over the Bundaberg Hospital bloodbath, the Wivenhoe debacle, the nurse payment disaster, the Nuttal racket etc etc. It’s vital that the books, as they left them, not be believed at face value. As Australia’s best ever Treasurer, Costello brings unparalleled expertise to the task of establishing the true budgetary reality.
Great move by Newman. No question.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 12:47 pm
Elephant hunting!!
WWF endorses elephant hunting!!!
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:47 pm
Are you talking about yourself here troll?
Token
17 Apr 12 at 12:47 pm
Troll does not refer to people who disagree with your own closed mind, although for some bizarre reason the word has semantically shifted in this direction.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:49 pm
Spot, you kindly provided us with a tutorial on how to capture a screenshot thingamyjig. Can you remember which thread that was doen, please??
Here ya go, Gab: http://j.mp/IsyGQF
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 12:49 pm
“Roman Law inheritance. The law doesn’t apply to the Emperor, and the Emperor makes the law.”
And there I was thinking the rule of law was of greater relevance to Western political leaders.
Jarrah
17 Apr 12 at 12:50 pm
Spot, your link doesn’t work for me, sorry. Please just tell me the name of the thread. Ta xx
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:51 pm
The same applies to “racist” etc all in the name of PC.
It’s a sad state of affairs, “Samson”.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:54 pm
i wonder if there is a Delilah somewhere.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 12:54 pm
Sorry – I had to shorten it to get around the ban on linking to this blog. It was on the 12 April an-open-letter-from-professor-bunyip/#comment-456160
sdog
17 Apr 12 at 12:54 pm
“Agonistes”. Is that the pain you suffer when you have your balls cut out.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 12:54 pm
Jarrah, I’ve told you in the past about that crap they smother you in at UNSW. When will you listen, dear boy!?
Peter Patton
17 Apr 12 at 12:54 pm
Thank you, Spot.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 12:55 pm
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
Bligh won an election by deceiving the public as to her plans and announcing a neo-liberal reform package after the election.
Newman won an election by deceiving the public as to his plans and announcing a neo-liberal reform package after the election backed by the Costello report.
Plus ca change, but – yes – hiding behind Costello’s a bit of cowardly spin hardly in conformity with Newman’s can-do image.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
<blockquote>But at the Sydney Writer’s Festival, no such change in the intellectual climate. Malcolm Turnbull announces a gig during which not a single conservative will be among the crowd on stage:
Join Malcolm for a panel discussion with George Megalogenis, Annabel Crabb, Virginia Trioli and Peter Hartcher, about journalism’s impact on modern politics.
Ah, well we know Malcolm supports the Finko, so no surprises then…
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 1:03 pm
It’s all their fault. The thirteen million unemployed can lay the blame at the feet of the wealthy. It’s just “common sense” says Obama.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 1:12 pm
<blockquotei wonder if there is a Delilah somewhere.
I would be careful when addressing our Samson troll Candy. Milton’s character whihc he has used for his avatar has real woman / anger issues.
Hey SA, does that mean you are part of the HSU executive? That lot have issues with women.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 1:13 pm
Abbott plays politics with Afghan withdrawal.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
At hilarious ‘global’ meeting of the Atheist Taliban, Ayaan Hirsi Ali goes off script, slams atheists as cowards.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
No surprises there. Who stood up for her when the Islamists threatened her life?
Token
17 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
Who stood against her when she wore a hijab and fought for the Islamic Brotherhood?
I think people need to choose their heroines more carefully.
You can’t believe anything she says, so if you’ve seen her clitoris then enlighten me.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 1:34 pm
“Samson”, why do you hate women?
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 1:35 pm
Because he can’t afford the surgery to become one.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 1:37 pm
Samson comes out as pro female genital mutilation.
What a surprise.
Oh wait, he’s a lefty.
No it’s not.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 1:39 pm
No wonder Samson took as a character with old skool attitudes and anger issues toward women. Figures.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 1:50 pm
I would probably agree that Abbott is playing politics with the Afghanistan withdrawal. Everybody knew we’d bail when the Americans did. The ‘stay the course’ rhetoric was always stupid; not to mention disgusting, given that our soldiers were required to go on dying until one side of Australian politics blinked.
The politics played with Iraq by Labor, of course, was far worse.
Afghanistan was the left’s Good War and they’ve now lost. Heckuva job, Obama.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 2:00 pm
Wow, in the ugly stakes that’s rivalling his claim (when he was known as Max Screa.m) that a newborn child is not a person.
Oh come on
17 Apr 12 at 2:01 pm
Isn’t It Romantic?
Feminism’s latest triumph: Boys are afraid of girls.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 2:12 pm
James, as a practicing doctor do you have any thoughts on Bird’s latest medical theory?
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/ezra-pound-one-man-can-make-a-difference/#comment-39499
jtfsoon
17 Apr 12 at 3:08 pm
So Birdie thinks that the E-ray thingi is a caper for the shadow government to make profits through cancer treatment? Is that what he’s suggesting.
I guess it’s plausible.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 3:12 pm
Concerns about voter fraud in the US. Naaaaa impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA1k2h8qtBc&feature=player_embedded#!
JC
17 Apr 12 at 3:16 pm
A standard jet airflight exposes passengers to roughly the same radiation as a chest x-ray if that helps.
CT scans and angiograms are considerably more.
Very briefly only multiple repetion serial CT scans – particularly of the pelvis in women of childbearing age and any abdominal xray in women pregnant less than 20 weeks are patients where great consideration need be given
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 3:17 pm
James
Birdie responded at his blog to your comment. Frankly he thinks you’re talking crap. Here:
JC
17 Apr 12 at 4:02 pm
Funny… I’ve suddenly come over all queasy
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 4:05 pm
This is pretty uncontroversial. Your average suburban GP isn’t much more than a referral agent for specialists and a friendly ear.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 4:20 pm
“This is pretty uncontroversial. Your average suburban GP isn’t much more than a referral agent for specialists and a friendly ear”
A good GP is invaluable. think of all the germs they get sprayed with all day and looking at people’s bits and some none too clean!
candy
17 Apr 12 at 4:36 pm
The real skill of the family GP apart from diagnosing and treating all the common ailments is to be able to smell a rat among all the dross.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 4:44 pm
Status: true.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 4:45 pm
Great stuff at Blair’s.
It’s not often you see footage of an idiot’s real life burn-out stack-o-rama.
Ah shit… Ah fuck… Ah, shit.
Yup.
Meanwhile, this bloke is the Bradman of beef.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 4:49 pm
“The real skill of the family GP apart from diagnosing and treating all the common ailments is to be able to smell a rat among all the dross.”
yeh, you’d be a bit miffed if the doctor puts your child’s funny bruising down to general falls and kid stuff, and turns out its leukaemia.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 4:49 pm
Don’t forget the pharma company reps. About 15 of us ate a magnificent Christmas dinner this year off the ham and extras delivered the reps.
Most are very easy on the eye too.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 4:53 pm
The plain packaging fight began today in the High Court. I love all the media melodrama about this – as if there’s any serious doubt about what our leashed poodle judges will do.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 5:02 pm
Strong performance from Tim Andrews commenting on the plain packaging case.
Rafe
17 Apr 12 at 5:05 pm
Papachango, add to your list paying that fucking oxygen bandit, Bob Ellus, to write speeches for Carr and wotsisname in South Australa.
Talk about tax payer’s money flushed down the toilet. Was there ever a fatter parasite?
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 5:18 pm
Thanx for that link Rafe.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 5:21 pm
CL it may be off script for that gathering, but she has always said this. She also is a staunch supporter of the fact that the US is a force for freedom, which is very much off script for these microcephalic ninnies who have a genetic hatred of the US. People like that petri dish for haemorrhoids, Samson Agonistes.
That’s why she is hated by the LP types.
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 5:28 pm
For Christ’s sake, the first thing the ATA does is shill for the tobacco companies. The ATA, which is modelled on Americans for Tax Reform which Andrews himself has worked for, which has taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from Phillip Morris. What a joke. The ATA is DOA.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 5:51 pm
Iran has not had a nuclear weapons program since 2003 according to the CIA and IAEA and every other reputable source.
But why worry about facts?
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 5:53 pm
What’s wrong with representing and defending the rights of firms, which are allowed to operate legally, Monster. You need to explain that one.
If it’s going to be one of those… da tobacco compnanies, thems eveel, don’t even fucking bother, as we know all the associated dramatics off by heart.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 5:55 pm
You’re lying. Not true.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 5:56 pm
Absolutely true, and easily checked.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:00 pm
It will be interesting how they square the circle that they found weight in having international treaty obligations over the Malaysian plan for the boaties and the treaty obligations under the WTO in regards to protection of trade marks and copyright.
If they avoid this issue, the whole fucking lot of them need to be sacked and perhaps even answer charges over misconduct.
In the Malaysian case they found the Australian parliament didn’t have primary status to make laws without relating it our treaty obligations.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:01 pm
Provide the evidence, Bob, or stfu.
You’re lying again
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:02 pm
Andrews has taken money from big tobacco at AfTR, so his protestations that the ATA haven’t taken big tobacco money are rather limp, particularly since it was formed about five minutes ago and big tobacco probably fund other organisations he has worked for, including the IPA. If there is nothing wrong with it then why did he take the time to deny it? Obviously he feels pressure on the issue before anyone brought it up.
He’s a classic Young Liberal type, isn’t he. Hands as smooth as a baby’s bum, no doubt.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 6:04 pm
To be fair, a lot of well-know atheists were supportive of Ali, including Hitchens, Harris and Dawkins.
Many didn’t of course – those who are less atheists and more just anti-Christian.
Quentin George
17 Apr 12 at 6:06 pm
You’re making it sound as though their hands are as smooth as ALP/former union reps.
So tell me, if his organization takes money from tobacco companies why would it change his opinion on the issue of trade marks? What evidence do you have that anyone taking money from tobacco firms has ever had an opinion other than the one they present?
Go!
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:08 pm
So when did become illegal to accept money from a registered company M0nty?
Token
17 Apr 12 at 6:08 pm
That might be because they are in an enrichment development phase. A weapons programme wouldn’t come online until they reach a certain level of technological development. It’s a bait and switch – Iran can honestly say it doesn’t have a weapons programme. The deceit lies in their failure to add, “yet” to the declaration.
They are lying shitbags and only a Simon pure fool with a head as fat as Bob Ellis’ paunch would take anything the world’s largest sponsor of state terrorism says as being the whole truth.
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:10 pm
Monster, you idiot. Let’s take closer to home.
Let’s say I was working in a similar role to that of Tim Andrews. What positions do you think I would change that I have expressed here over the years in order to get the money? Name one example.
You really are an imbecile and about as stupid as Bob.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:10 pm
Well best to take the CIA warnings with a bit of salt they are often wrong
The IAEA says someone told them that Iran might be working towards a nuclear weapon but there is no hard evidence only suspicion. Some of the last report was like kids stuff with an A4 page that some defector wrote offering to help make a bomb coming from Russia if my memory is correct and low and behold a simular “document” was found in Libya.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-sees-intelligence-surge-as-boost-to-confidence/2012/04/07/gIQAlCha2S_story.html
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
Robertson also repeated the bare-faced lie about wiping Israel off the map, but he’s a barrister so truth lies in embellishment.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
Many didn’t of course – those who are less atheists and more just anti-Christian.
The vast majority, you mean?
dover_beach
17 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
Bob, is there any anti-western position you aren’t fond of you gin soaked loon.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:13 pm
ummmmm?
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:14 pm
Hey Bob, Abu really doesn’t like you that much.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:15 pm
So every one on Q and A suffered from the delusion belief that Iran and the Iranian people needed to be punished because they have a nuclear weapons programme, and they only differed on whether violence should be used if necessary.
So where exactly were the left/balance on this panel???
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:15 pm
SA
But Robertson supports Assange so just let the others here attack him thanks. We don’t need both sides beating up on someone.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 6:15 pm
Do the words cash for comment ring a bell?
No one’s saying it’s illegal, Token. It’s unethical not to disclose your funding sources if you claim to be independent of any side in a political argument in which you’re participating, but you are actually funded by one of the sides. Cash for comment was a scandal for that reason.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 6:17 pm
No they advocate for principle.
Something you wouldn’t ‘get’ m0nty
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 6:17 pm
You fat dishonest turd, bob. No one wants to punish the Iranian people. In fact no one even wants to punish that murderous regime without cause.
We don’t even want them to stop their nuclear program as long as it’s supervised under the International Atomic Agency.
You really are a dishonest sack of fat pustules at times Bob.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:19 pm
Does Ahmadinejad support Hamas? Yes.
Is it a standard saying amongst Hamas that Israel will be eradicated to become Palestine, “min al nahr ila al bahr”? Yes. And what of the constitution of Hamas?
How in FUCK did the left end up in bed with a bunch of totalitarian death cultists? For shame, Bob, for shame.
من النهر إلى ال البحر
From the river to the sea…
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:19 pm
Don’t worry about answering that JC. One of the obvious ways for M0nty’s site to make money is to let betting companies advertise, or even buy him out.
As M0nty is so pure, he would never accept one of those blighted dollars.
Come on M0nty, step up and back me up here.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 6:20 pm
You forgot to mention ‘Greater Israel’ in your diatribe and the new ‘Berlin Wall’ they built to safeguard their theft of land and water.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:22 pm
They saw a like minded bunch and the “whatever it takes” attitude.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:22 pm
You’d have no credibility, though. “Here’s [name redacted], who… er… is a commodities trader, or something. Remember those two old guys in Trading Places? He’s like them pretty much, yeah. And he’s here to talk to us about… um… Nazis.”
Tim is a social sciences academic. They are not supposed to be doing straight PR on behalf of paid corporate clients. That is what you go to uni to do PR courses for. We listen to academics because they have some sort of credibility due to putting in the hard yards to research their contentions. They can back up their opinions because they have performed legitimate scientific inquiries (or are supposed to). Tim is in a grey area between the two.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 6:23 pm
If the Hitch were here now, he’d excommunicate you, Bob, for siding with Iran.
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:24 pm
No you’re lying Bob, you fat turd.
Israel built the wall to stop the palis from killing Jews.
The commies built the wall to stop people from defecting to the west and shot anyone on sight if they tried to climb over.
Big difference you mentally gangrenous loon.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:25 pm
Actually Token, I do have a policy of not accepting gambling ads on my site, and have done for years. Admittedly I did in 2008, but I changed my mind after that and have held fast to it. The demographics of my site skew way too young, it’s half school-agers. I don’t feel comfortable in advertising gambling to children. I could double my revenue overnight if I backed down, but I’m big enough now that I don’t have to.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 6:25 pm
A wall is a wall is a wall – a separation or ‘apartheid’ device.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:26 pm
Who is we as there are many who do want to attack them and the nuclear program is supervised so there should not even be talk of bombing Iran according to you which I agree. If you are talking about the extra rules imposed on them they have even complied except for the not enriching uranium but what Iran says it objects to is not having the right to enrich uranium themselves. This is a rule that has been put on only one country in the world so if this was done to Australia for example I am sure we would tell the world to get f’ed.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 6:27 pm
Fair enough M0nty, I won’t argue if you are standing by your principles on that.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 6:27 pm
Monster, don’t piss me off with your bullshit. Even I would do the same thing and you know how much of a shit I give about gambling in the sense of none at all…. no controls.
Your decision wasn’t based on altruism but self interest due concerns over accusations because of the young demographic your dog’s breakfast of a site attracts.
Do you really think people are stupid here Monster? FFS.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:31 pm
Yet another rabbit hole misdirection from fat arse.
Back to the topic you started: Ahmadinejad wants to wipe out Israel and Iran has a nascent weapons programme. Dickhead.
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:32 pm
People? No. You? Definitely.
Now talk amongst yourselves, I’m off for the evening.
m0nty
17 Apr 12 at 6:33 pm
Token, don’t fall for that bullshit, man. The site attracts teenage boys etc.
All it would take is one “concerned mother” of a young teenage punk going on ACA and calling for a ban on advertising on sites like Monsters and he would be getting bad publicity.
He’s just being self interested here. Monster’s a leftie and he disguises his self interest with platitudinous crapola.
I’d do eggsactly the same thing if I was running that stupid site.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:35 pm
What’s the purpose of the wall, you gin soaked twit.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:36 pm
SA:
Bingo!! I knew the filthy anti-American bigoted maggot was also a Jew-baiting anti-semitic racist!
SA has confirmed his real name, what his initials stand for.
Sturmabteilung, after the National Socialists especially mindless and corrupt Jew-hating thugs.
Thanks, Sturmabteilung, for showing us what you are!
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 6:38 pm
Mossad’s back in town.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:40 pm
where is the m0nty website?
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 6:40 pm
Hmm.
So Sturmabteilung is a mysogenist, violence-against-women approving bigoted Jew-baiting anti-semitic racist!
Hey guys?
I am starting to think that Sturmabteilung might be a leftist. He’s showing all the usual signs.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 6:42 pm
m0nty’s policy isn’t very unusual. A lot of websites restrict the kinds of ads they run, refusing to advertise gambling or adult sites. Google, for example.
It’s a business decision. Sure, you could make more money in the short run but you might wreck the business model in the process. As with JC, I’d probably restrict those ads too.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 6:43 pm
Sturmabteilung:
I can barely keep up. It’s like some utter loser admitting his sins on some stupid fifth rate US show for trailer park trash.
He’s a conspiracy theorist as well!
So Sturmabteilung’s a a mysogenist, violence-against-women approving bigoted Jew-baiting anti-semitic racist conspiracy theorist.
Hey, Sturmabteilung, was 9/11 an inside job? C’mon, you know you want to tell us all about it.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 6:45 pm
May 15 is Nakba Day, MK, can I look forward to your participation?
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:49 pm
The vast majority, you mean?
You and I both know that isn’t true. We simply hear more from leftist/dickhead atheists.
Quentin George
17 Apr 12 at 6:49 pm
Lesson. Play with dogs and you’ll invariably end up getting fleas.
Never invest money in leftist shitholes like Argentina as they will steal it from you.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ae91248c-87e0-11e1-b1ea-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=published_links/rss/markets_commodities/feed//product#axzz1sHnHJB3P
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:54 pm
I’ll wager I have 100 times more Palestinian friends than you, Bob, so yes I may engage in discussion of it with them. Participation? No, that would be too pretentious, and the act of a cultural carpet bagger such as yourself
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:55 pm
Commenters at Blair’s report that Abbott is being blamed…
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 6:56 pm
Having openly admitted using dishonest tactics in debate, allegedly learned from “the left”, what actual message are you trying to communicate here?
At face value, your comment is unhinged garbage. But perhaps in view of your self-acknowledged desire to lie and manipulate, because “they do it too”, perhaps it makes some sense.
Why not explain what you’re doing?
Oh wait, that’d spoil everything.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 6:56 pm
ABu is being more than fair with you Bob.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 6:58 pm
So the deputy prime minister of Israel doesn’t know what he is talking about either. SA at least you are in good company. Go to minute 5 for those who actually would believe an Israeli politician.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 6:58 pm
Sturmabteilung, you celebrate an accounting firm?
Hey, whatever floats your boat.
I’m normally a big hung over on 15 may after celebrating Yom Ha’atzmaut on the 14th. Australia. after all, proudly played a very positive role when the United nations created Israel.
Pity we did not do more to help when the local savages decided to launch a war of unprovoked aggression against the infant Israeli state, but hey, the savages only outnumbered that civilised people 15:1 so of course they got beaten like a drum.
My only regret is that the Israelis did not dynamite the mosque on the site of their ancient temple so they could rebuild one of the most important buildings of the ancient world.
That will come in time, though.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 6:59 pm
I can just see Bob now, putting on a blue keffiyeh. Like those awful pics of James Cameron in war paint mugging with the Amazonian Indians. Dilettante.
Abu Chowdah
17 Apr 12 at 6:59 pm
Twiggy “I don’t pay tax’ Forrest is throwing around the ‘racist’ word.
When did he become a ‘leftist luvvie’?
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 6:59 pm
Oh, FDB, I am teasing our dear little Sturmabteilung in the manner he teases us.
Can’t you tell?
Turn-about is fair play, no?
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 7:01 pm
Cornflake packet lefty propaganda is so boring. But I suppose “Samson” has to grease his gun somehow. Enjoy your jollies.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 7:02 pm
Yom Hazikaron should be a global holiday
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 7:02 pm
Pack your Uzi and stand down soldier Schweik, or MK50, youre a long way from the war so your dutch courage is boring.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 7:02 pm
Israel colluded with Jordan to start the first Arab-Israel war so you need to read a bit of history, so put down the Uzi and pick up your books.
Samson Agonistes
17 Apr 12 at 7:04 pm
Pull you head in FDB.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 7:05 pm
Ah, okay Mark. You now openly admit being dishonest, and an unhinged dickhead, on the basis of which we can conclude Samson has no case to answer.
What a strange world you inhabit.
But I’m sure you’ve “won” in some sense… say, one which can be established by “consensus” – the last refuge of the damned.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 7:06 pm
FDB;
So you think Bob is perfectly hinged? You audaciously stupid goose.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 7:07 pm
Oh my stars and garters. What’s hilarious is people taking “Samson” seriously enough to reply to his fatuous comments.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 7:08 pm
QG, I think it is true so far as New Atheists are concerned. Think of the Four Horsemen, each to a man, is/ was anti-Christian, through-and-through. I bet all of the ‘comedians’ Dick Gross referred to were, to a man (and woman), anti-Christian.
dover_beach
17 Apr 12 at 7:10 pm
“Pull you head in FDB.”
No yoPur pull youGRE head in, Jcfc!
Please don’t stop responding to me JC. You’ll come up looking so clever.
Honestly, like last time and the time before and the time before…
So clever.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 7:10 pm
stfu m0nty u lying fool.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 7:11 pm
So what was Obama doing sucking up to Argentina for? Dies he admire the way the Kurchners are playing at being Chavez?
Does he think the scumbags won’t nationalise US companies when they have squandered the oil money?
If he was a leader he’d front the thieves and stand by his allies.
Token
17 Apr 12 at 7:11 pm
MK50 are you Jewish and did you fight in a war which one?
candy
17 Apr 12 at 7:12 pm
How about cash for rooting?
That would be a reference to the Thommo-confident government trying to ban the commercial rights of legal firms, based on ‘morality.’ The same government, come to think of it, that corruptly nobbled a tender process for television rights.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 7:13 pm
no
JC
17 Apr 12 at 7:13 pm
JC if you be there, sorry i said you be nasty yesterday you probably didn’t notice but i did, and it was not at all appropriate thing to say, my apologies.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 7:19 pm
“NO”
So, does that mean you refuse to not stop responding to me?
Or that you, as usual, have shithouse reading comprehension and are for some reason refusing not to stop not responding, which you have incidentally never done?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 7:29 pm
FDB:
How strange, FDB! You and the denizens of LP never complained about these tactics when using them on left-wing sites.
I wonder why you think they are ‘dishonest’ now?
The shoe pinches when it’s on the other foot, doesn’t it, diddums?
You can dry your eyes, now, Princess.
Sturmabteilung is a head case: after all, he’s a leftist who by the tenor of his own posts (‘apartheid wall’ etc etc) loathes Jews and seems to support the terrorists who want to kill them.
Or do you read his posts differently?
Queensland is a bit odd, I do have to say.
What a peculiar perception you have, FDB. I am baiting and teasing a jew-hating, bigoted, mysogenist left-wing troll who posts here purely to troll.
It’s a hobby, you poor fool.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 7:29 pm
Honest question – I genuinely can’t make out your reply.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 7:29 pm
Nuance, FDB, nuance.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 7:30 pm
Don’t apologise, Candy.
Stick it to him.
C.L.
17 Apr 12 at 7:31 pm
One thing is for sure, $1,000 bucks Mel/Syd isn’t cattle class.
brc
17 Apr 12 at 7:33 pm
Ah, okay Mark.
So you’re lying and wilfully misinterpreting people, in the name of a hobby.
A strange admission, but whatevs.
Anyway, this…
“You and the denizens of LP never complained about these tactics when using them on left-wing sites.”
…requires evidence of my ever witnessing such things happen AND of my failure to complain.
Can you find any such things, or would a retraction be a better idea?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 7:34 pm
I genuinely think you need to quit the weed. What you need to refocus on is genuine progressive taxes that rapidly fall to zero.
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 7:36 pm
JC
Interesting choice of words. Does this include Australia whenever the ALP is in charge as they effectively planned a 40% nationalisation of all mineral extraction at one stage with no compensation? Lucky the plan failed.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 7:38 pm
As social welfare increased so did inequality, go figure.
Goes to show social welfare is a failure and should be drastically wound back.
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 7:39 pm
Shorter FDB: ‘Using standard leftie tactics to counter left-wing trolls is something I can’t understand and think is unfair’
Riiiiiiight.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 7:42 pm
Craig that is due to top marginal tax rates going up very high then coming down not to do with social welfare.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 7:43 pm
That is a heck of a lot less than he would get on the speaking circuit.
So it could be argued that he is taking a pay cut to work for the people, very honourable that.
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 7:44 pm
Did I say it did?
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 7:46 pm
CraigS
At the height of the AGW scam, a conference industry contact told me that Flannery got $45,000-$55,000 per gig, one hour speaking, one hour on a panel.
First class airfare, 5 star hotel and all other expenses paid.
He is currently getting $180,000 per annum for 120 days work per annum, but all (business class) travel time is included in that and he gets per diem, so it’s not like he actually has to produce something, like Costello has to.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 7:49 pm
Good old Fairfax, holding the government to account when nobody else will. Why, look at their take-no-prisoners reporting of the disastrous Gillard government.
That’s a lot of money. But consulting rates are higher than salaries, as there are more hidden costs. (a simple example is that you have to do all your own accounting whereas a 9 to 5′er has all that taken care of by the employer).
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 7:54 pm
Regarding the document attached to the Craig Thompson ‘no comment’ thread.
Thank you. It is a very, very interesting document.
Presenting access to it here is a move I do appreciate.
I concur that any comment beyond thanking you for it (given its currently unconfirmed provenance) would not be wise.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 7:59 pm
Bout the same as any insolvency auditor (apt), I’ve seen more expensive.
Jumpnmcar
17 Apr 12 at 7:59 pm
No Mark, no.
Tarring me (and others) with the lovingly preserved toilet brush of your every encounter with lefties who made you feel bad, and trying thereby to avoid simple questions about what you are currently trying to say, is not so much unfair as simply lame.
Intellectually bankrupt.
And lame.
Did I mention lame?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 8:03 pm
You are lame, FDB?
That’s not good!
I know a good podiatrist who can help you with that.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 8:06 pm
Exactly a few grand a day is chump change, you’d be lucky to get a partner in a medium size professional firm for that in Brisbane, let along Mel or Syd.
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 8:08 pm
Yeah, CraigS. A barrister costs that daily rate (and not a top flight one either)
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 8:10 pm
Marko, Careful. Nothing to gain by interacting with to Green shemales except VD or worse.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 8:11 pm
“unprovoked aggression”
What? Admittedly, their beef should have been with European colonialists, but you can’t say excising a portion of their territory is not provocation.
Jarrah
17 Apr 12 at 8:12 pm
I can only assume Mark, that your twice-repeated failure to engage is an admission of defeet.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 8:15 pm
Thinking about it, it’s a good move.
Employing Costello at what really is ‘mates rates’ is a good political weapon at state level, brings Costello back into the attack on the ALP’s economic management ‘expertise’ at federal level (Dammit CraigS stop laughing… ah hell with it go ahead as I am laughing at that idea too) and takes away much of the ‘partisan sting’ at state level too.
We know the ALP in QLD were braindead squandermonkeys and that expenditures have to be slashed.
This is a very smart way to make a sober assessment and take it to the people. And nobody can say he does not have a mandate to fix QLD’s finances.
I am seeing ample evidence here that there is blind panic in the QLD public service. Many areas did not even have transition briefs for the new Ministers!
never seen anything like it.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 8:16 pm
Good lord, FDB, that puns terrible.
Being teazed is the only game afoot here.
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 8:19 pm
Tom, are you positing yourself as more masculine than me?
I wonder on what basis…
Can you explain?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 8:21 pm
As they say in the classics, if you have to ask…
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 8:23 pm
The last electrician I had in took 20 minutes to put a light in and charged $100. Fairfax will be screaming about the greedy electricians making $12,000 a week next.
Apparently Fairfax and its readers are staffed exclusively by people still living with their parents who earn $50 a day at KFC.
twostix
17 Apr 12 at 8:24 pm
Okay Mark, I freely admit that’s a low point in my punning career.
If “teazing” is all you’re doing though, wy would you expect SA to be perturbed? Surely you have actual arguments against his (and who knows, even my!) actual arguments.
Or perhaps you don’t.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 8:25 pm
From today’s Fin:
[Toyota] issued staff at its Victorian car plan with report cards yesterday that assessed their performance, ability and attitude.
The scores were used to decide who lost their jobs.
And what a surprise…
Toyota faces mass legal action
Why? Can’t you decide who you want employ any more.
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 8:25 pm
“if you have to ask…”
You’ll never know, will you Gab?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 8:26 pm
Great isn’t it.
I don’t think he will get any trouble from it either, people have given him a lot of trust and always like a man (or woman) of action and conviction.
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 8:28 pm
Gab doesn’t like asking questions. She’s a follower.
Jarrah
17 Apr 12 at 8:31 pm
the poor man has to pay half of it in tax. what a joke. he should be getting $6600 a day
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 8:32 pm
.
Errrkk.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 8:32 pm
“Errrkk.”
Ah, okay, so it’s on the basis that I speak English precisely.
That doesn’t explain much, but it’s better than no explanation at all I guess.
I put it to you that you are a wuss, Tom. On the basis of your hamfisted efforts to prove otherwise.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 8:45 pm
Seriously, FDB, look at Sturmabteilung’s posts, or Maxie the Squealboy’s, or Les the racist kiddie’s (perhaps the only apparent Stormfront fan ever to post here), or Handy Spanker’s, or Bird or those of the other blatant left-wing partisan trolls who commonly befoul the site.
There are no actual arguments being placed because there’s no coherence whatsoever. it’s trolling.
I happen to enjoy countering them using (quite genuine I assure you) tactics learned on left to far left sites over many years. They hate these tactics, and that amuses me.
One lesson those sites also taught me is that the left-winger who will actually engage in genuine civil discourse where actual arguments are not dismissed out of hand and partisan parroting substituted is indeed a rara avis.
You and Katz are exactly 50% of the total number I have noticed since 2004. Rara avis indeed.
I am stating a bald truth when I say we have studied this extensively, for professional reasons I will not discuss here. Knowing that a ‘target’ mind (not Australian left-wingers – others) processes information in a similar manner makes this study valuable. One can learn how they can form lacunae in how they process and even perceive data. That is a very interesting weakness and can be exploited – very much to their detriment.
And now, to the books! This PhD won’t write itself (doing this part-time sucks…)
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 8:45 pm
If John H is around, I’d love to ask his opinion on Co-q10 supplements for people on statins… My mother was on Lipitor, but after increasing “vagueness”, switched to some other anti-cholesterol drug (don’t remember which). I now hear that statins can reduce Co-q10, and it occurs to me, this may be a factor of apparent side-effects… then again, it could just be that she’s getting older?
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 8:57 pm
Good riddance.
steve from brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
You left out a key piece of information. namely, did your mother’s vagueness go away?
If so, I’d really like to know what the “other anti-cholesterol drug” was.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 9:00 pm
Errrkk!
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 9:03 pm
No, I personally believe it got worse, though she doesn’t seem so sure.
She did go off them entirely for two months because she was concerned, but cholesterol shot up too much, so her doctor prescribed an alternative… it was only when I was looking into other stuff that I stumbled across this possible connection.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:04 pm
Steve
Who are you saying good riddance to Mk50?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 9:05 pm
“Errrkk!”
Okay, so you just don’t like talking with people who show that you have nothing whatsoever to say.
That’s fine, just slink away and nobody will notice a thing.
In fact, there will probably be a bunch of folks covering your retreat…
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 9:10 pm
meh, FDB a lawyer!! pardon me while I vomit
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 9:11 pm
I believe I followed a series of links after someone posted a TED lecture by Dr Terry Wahls… I took a lot of what she said with a grain of salt, but the stuff about mitochondria piqued my interest, and I followed on from there. The CoQ10 stuff seems quite valid, and though the connection between statins and reduced CoQ10 has been established, nobody seems to have made the link between the all-too-common reported side-effect of “vagueness”. Even I dismissed it as old age – that people on these drugs were just getting old… but reading up, it’s like a light-switch went off, and so I wanted to hear if John knew anything.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:12 pm
in my opinion Mr Costello would have to be one of the most respected ex or current politicans in Australia – you know, by everyone.
I see him on TV sometimes now and he’s down to earth and a gentleman. A truly great Australian.
we all impressed up here in Qld that Mr Newman has taken him on as a consultant.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 9:13 pm
Daddy, In my opinion, Lipitor is a dumb drug designed by lawyers to avoid litigation. It can be excrutiatingly painful and lowers cholesterol by introducing very big side-effects in the musculature. It is prescribed to lower cholesterol even in healthy people. I would like to hear what James and other GPs think about it.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 9:13 pm
Me:
Exhibit #1 – Irving J
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
MK50
never seen anything like it.”
By “transition briefs” MK, I assume you mean incoming government briefs? I am sure they were prepared, but they would have been done under the previous super departments and thus dumbed down/cpmpressed to be relevant to all the multiple ministers that the super department was subject to. Anything not considered high level didn’t make the cut, and of course now that departments are functionally aligned what wasn’t considered high level for a super department is relevant to a specific portfolio. In other words the super departments sucked.
What appears to be happening now of course is that a large number of newborn ministers, with non existent or green staff, aren’t in a position to know what they don’t know, let alone the unknown unknowns. And it seems they are preferring external advice (poor Sir Humphrey). This may of course, be to their detriment if some lobbyist thinks they heard whatever it is they wanted to hear, and causes some sort of stink.
Amusingly, there is also sections of the QPS that have not heard, or accepted, that the government has changed, and seem to believe that what their new Ministers want can’t happen, because it isn’t consistent with the policy (or to be frank, the officer’s views). LOL.
“I think Minister X just doesn’t like his department!”
entropy
17 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
My Dad had fine Chol levels… then had a stroke, and is now in Lipitor. I now hear that this lowers CoQ10, and furthermore, that low CoQ10 levels can contribute to hardening of the arteries!
I just don’t know what to believe…
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:17 pm
I’ve checked with my Doc. These statins are very good drugs. There’s a lot of negative stuff about them but they do work well for most people.. not all, but nearly all.
You just need a liver test every six months to ensure it’s functioning okay without adverse effects from the statins.
That’s what I do as I have a family history of high cholesterol and knew about since I was in my 30′s.
I take Krestor and it’s fine. Everyone should stop panicking.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:18 pm
Swan’s campaign to turning to class warfare to rally the working class against the rich in a 1950′s class struggle died like all his stupid ideas…
…but the consequences of his hate continues to rebound on him and this stupid givernment:
Remember who Forest was willing to work with?
Token
17 Apr 12 at 9:20 pm
FDB
I was in a rush to get out and didn’t read your crap properly. Yes, of course I’ll continue to respond.
Can I just advise you that you’re really overcompensating on the tough guy image bit. There’s an art if you’re not naturally that way inclined and of course you’re now. You don’t quite have it and frankly never will.
Candy.
Yes, you were very very rude yesterday and I didn’t quite know how to handle it except in silence and mental anguish. Sad really. Very sad. Lol
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:23 pm
Mark, your last is as weak as piss.
You can’t on the one hand admit openly that you’re just being a trolly douchebag and simultaneously claim something else.
If you want to admit, as you seem to want to admit, that I’m serious in my efforts here, then why do you never have any serious responses for me? Why just the same bullshit you give to everyone else you disagree with?
It’s hard to take you as seriously as you seem to want me to take you.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 9:25 pm
Maybe, JC – I wasn’t suggesting she stop taking them – just that she may need CoQ10 supplements in conjunction.
I always suspected there was *something* causing a mental side effect, but wasn’t sure if it was just a fact that people taking them were generally older (and getting more so), which would of course result in a correlation between medication and said symptoms… BUT, if it is related to CoQ10 loss, then a supp would actually be an easy fix.
Ping John H.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:25 pm
i’m thinking a lot depends on the age of Fleeced’s mum and any other possible neurological disorders that come naturally with age.
Only the appropriate specialist can advise. i reckon get an appropriate referral for your mum Fleeced to sort matters out. it’s hard being in the dark, only the doctors can sort it. trust in the medicos.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 9:25 pm
Listen to the docs. Don’t accept crap on the web or try and make up your mind by yourself. Most of them do know what they are talking about even if only peddling the stuff their professional colleagues are saying. They are all pretty well trained. You start getting into trouble when you go all Birdian and become a Doc yourself.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:25 pm
kelly at 9.05: Yes.
steve from brisbane
17 Apr 12 at 9:28 pm
Okay, but lets say they do cause older people to become a tad hazier. What’s worse though, losing a little memory which can be compensated for in some ways or having a stroke that ends up killing you, which will cause material memory loss?
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:29 pm
yep a lawyer, the classic chardonnay socialist
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 9:30 pm
This is the problem I have… I’d always dismissed complaints about Lipitor on these exact grounds.
Like JC, I’ve always trusted the docs. I’ve always had “faith” (for want of a better word) in the scientific process. This has changed over recent years… I’m still “pro-science” and “anti-alternative medicine”, but I’ve learned that things aren’t quite as clear cut as I’d like. That some of the processes aren’t quite that scientific, and that the links aren’t always so clear (Eg, Both AGW and the “Food pyramid” are both committee-based BS rather than real science)
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:34 pm
There was a really interesting story in New Yorker a while back about a new drug to treat some serious mental illness. Anyways the drug was trialed and went through all the hoops. There was nothing the pharma company did wrong.
And then after it was intro’ed some real serious shit happened with it.. can’t recall what exactly.
They went through the clinical trial material, re-trialed or some crap and came to the conclusion that the first trial itself was a bad cluster. A statistical fluke.
Pretty amazing. That’s what stats can do.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:34 pm
Sure… but does it have to be a choice? That’s why I want more info on CoQ10.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:36 pm
Fleeced, Daddy, Lipitor probably does work as an anti-cholesterol drug. It’s just a matter of how much crap you want to put up with in your body. As I say, it’s a drug designed to avoid litigation. The whole medical industry, from GPs to drug researchers, are now involved in litigation avoidance. When in doubt, prescribe.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 9:37 pm
Look I agree Fleeced. I think the AGW scaremongering and brazen hysteria has really sent science back a little. However I really think that the FDA, although slow and elephant-in-a-Chinashop like does make decent decisions.
I think that stuff is run on best practice.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:38 pm
Leaving aside for the moment that most lawyers are rightwing, and most of the parliamentary Liberal party is made up of lawyers… I’m a musician as it happens. A drummer no less – even among musos I’m famously dumb!
So why not demonstrate would should be easy – that you are smarter than me?
Go on… why not?
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 9:39 pm
Bullshit. The FDA is worse than the IPCC.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 9:39 pm
Oh yea. I forgot about that. Bongo boy.
Tell what we didn’t know.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:40 pm
“This is the problem I have… I’d always dismissed complaints about Lipitor on these exact grounds.”
you are a loving son, Fleeced.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 9:42 pm
The Wall Street journal rats on them all the time for being slow like a tortoise and that it’s stupidly stubborn in not allowing people to try drugs that have not met certain stages of approval even if they are near terminal.
I think it’s a fairly professional department though, IT.
What do you think of them and why?
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:43 pm
incoherent, do you want to try again?
Irving J
17 Apr 12 at 9:44 pm
Most sons are, Candy… but when the hard-nosed skeptic runs into reality, they start thinking twice. And since I’m also a libertarian, I also start wondering why I trusted the word of government organisations in the first place. Can I really call myself a skeptic when following their advice so blindly?
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:46 pm
The market and the legal system should be the judge of all drugs and foods, not some stinking shiny bum bureau boys.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 9:48 pm
Indeed… people say low carb is a fad? It was around long before the food pyramid… the pyramid is a fad, just government endorsed – and no real science behind it.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:49 pm
Zombie Scottish musician who talks like a pinko mutant lawyer. The hell have we bred, here, Houston??? Put it back in the goddamn bottle. PUT IT BACK OR I’LL SHOOT!!!
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 9:50 pm
There’s no real meat in this. In other words there’s no big funding potential if they juice up the results one way or another.
I think the private market and less cover one’s arse with personal responsibility would greatly help the process and speed it up, however the FDA isn’t bad overall.
This is not like modeling future weather changes. They do work on pretty decent concrete data and apply the science method.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
Look if the process was privatized and I’m for it, it wouldn’t look much different in terms of the examination and trialing drugs. the process could be sped up of course
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:53 pm
I see what you’re saying, JC… the FDA isn’t evil, just wrong… The AGW movement on the other hand is not just wrong, but pure evil.
Nonetheless, I believe the FDA is responsible for many deaths (more than AGW, that’s for sure!)
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
You’re confusing the dept of health and the FDA. They aren’t the same thing, although the FDA is an agency and likely reports to the FDA.
Take the CSIRO for instance. Not all of it is bad. The shit they do in terms of agricultural science is pretty much okay while the climate stuff is just fucking appalling.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
“Most sons are, Candy… but when the hard-nosed skeptic… ” etc
well don’t you pose some questions!
it’s about your mother and appropriate medical treatment for what she needs at this stage, it’s not about you or your philosphies (i can’t even spell that). it’s about what she requires.
all in my opinion. please chek with others!
candy
17 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
At any rate, I just wanted to hear John H’s advice on whether the apparent reduction in CoQ10 in people on statins could account for reported side-effects, and whether supplements could help… I respect his knowledge on these matters.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
As a musician how many Lawyers have you actually met?
Your comment suggests not many.
CraigS
17 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
Drugs are seriously risky though. People think that they aren’t. But there is risk with them and in big populations we will see the risk ooze out at some stage.
Life is risky.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
The principal criticism of the FDA is that it crushes innovation.
Only big pharam can afford the painfullly slow and hoop filled pathway to clinical evaluation and aproval and thus the process itself kills competition.
Its just another example of Big Gov/Big Business love-in where big business backs the business-killing policies of big government.
Juast look at the reaction of BHP, Rio and Xstrata to the MRRT whilst the small and medium miners – real Australian miners opposed it.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
Think of the Four Horsemen, each to a man, is/ was anti-Christian, through-and-through.
If you refer to Hitchens, Harris, Dennet and Dawkins each has publically said Islam is a far more dangerous religion than Xianity.
Quentin George
17 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
Statins have made a huge impact on stroke, cardiac and peripheral vascular disease morbidity and death.
Huge.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 10:01 pm
ALl that is pretty true James and the big government, big pharma thing has become a bit of a problem.
However I still think the drugs do get through though although the process is slowed down somewhat. That’s what I was saying about the Wall Street Journal’s frequent attacks on the FDA.
As I see the small pharmas are still out there working on new stuff and their hope is that once they hit a certain point in the process big pharma ends up buying them.
So big pharma has become basically a conduit for new stuff coming on the market.
I’m not disagreeing with on the slowness of the FDA, but I don’t think it prevents the good stuff eventually getting through.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:03 pm
Fleeced – John H. told me recently CoQ10 was the shizzle.
If you go to Instapundit and do a search there should be heaps of info on it.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 10:03 pm
If you refer to Hitchens, Harris, Dennet and Dawkins each has publically said Islam is a far more dangerous religion than Xianity.
Quite, but that doesn’t mean they’re not anti-Christian.
dover_beach
17 Apr 12 at 10:04 pm
Steve
Mk50 is good you let him ramble on just let him think he is winning then he is happy. He is a very emotional fellow and seems to think this is some sort of battle field. It is actually better not to win arguements with him if you are like me and want to hear what he has to say. Because if you beat him too much he will stop talking and start raving on about so called leftie tactics and how he uses them too or just general abuse. Despite my thinking being a lot different to his on many issues I am curious to know why he thinks the way he does. If he reads this comment he might talk to me less though.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:05 pm
I really can’t believe that with all this news out of Europe I’ve actually lost fucking money shorting the Euro. I just can’t get my head it and why it’s still holding above 1.300 to the US dollar. The amount of future QE’ing they will have to do is enormous, possibly another trillion or more whereas the US may be about done or that’s how people perceive it.
This is my 3rd try since Friday now.
This shithole of a currency belongs at 1:1 with the US dollar if not even lower.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:11 pm
Kelly. It would be great if you could learn to spell ‘argument’.
Oh come on
17 Apr 12 at 10:11 pm
Dude, shut up!!!
Although I think he knows all this, and still can’t stop his bone-headed rinse and repeat.
FDB
17 Apr 12 at 10:13 pm
thanks OCO wasn’t sure about that one, I will hopefully get it correct from now.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:14 pm
It would also be great if he wasn’t another know it all, Israel hating cab driver. That market is sewn up.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 10:15 pm
Kelly,
when there’s a red line under a word, just right click on it and let the program choose the word for you. If you get more than one option, just guess which word it is. We’ll understand.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:16 pm
Whatever is going on is not rational. Just like in sports betting markets, it’s dumb money versus smart money and the winner is the punter who consistently backs the overs.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 10:18 pm
Lol.. no really. I haven’t been paying attention to any of his “pestulence” today.
Kelly, how the fuck does a Brisbane cabbie get himself into hating Israel? What stupid fucking website have you been lurking around now.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:19 pm
Ah… I knew I read something recently – that was probably where… will check it out – thanks.
Fleeced
17 Apr 12 at 10:19 pm
red lines don’t happen in blog entries mr Jc smarty pants.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
Richard Epstein, WSJ:
Cancer Patients Deserve Faster Access to Life-Saving Drugs
Companies should be able to promote all uses of their drugs that are reliably shown to be effective.
JamesK
17 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
There’s a veru intructive lesson on this in the traders bible, a book written by a trader in the 20′s called
“Reminiscence of a stock operator.”
It’s a wonderful book. It’s a thinly disguised bio on a famous trader of the time… Jesse Livermore.
Anyways the fucker (Jesse) went into the 30′s as negative as all hell and lost all his money. He lost it because corrections a bear market with the government and shit all working against stocks from falling causes huge spikes against the trend.
Jesse didn’t follow his own rules and ended up blowing his brains out in the toilet of the Pierre Hotel in NYC.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:24 pm
Oh yes they do, pert bottom. Try Firefox.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:28 pm
JC, I’d say you’re right rationally, but there is a lot of emotion, especially fear, driving the currency desks. Everyone gets the shit kicked out of them if Europe goes through the chute.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 10:28 pm
Cab driver ok but I haven’t made any comment about Israel today. Only comment I made was that the deputy PM of Israel says that Amedinejad did not say wipe Israel out. If anyone did bother to look at the whole interview he also goes on to say that Iran might be thinking about nuclear weapons. I don’t dispute this, in fact that is a balanced view given the information.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:33 pm
JC
I am using firefox and I don’t get the red lines.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:34 pm
I don’t know what to tell you Kelly as nothing is ever normal with you.
Have you upgraded Firefox? Perhaps it’s an old computer.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:41 pm
hey Kelly, we’re in jc’s good books tonite and he’s cute and cuddly, let’s not bang on about red lines, ok?
(lol)
candy
17 Apr 12 at 10:42 pm
Computer is fairly new and unless the computer tells me to upgrade something I don’t. You will have to put up with my less than perfect spelling. Wait until they put grammar check, if I ever got that it would take half an hour to post a comment.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:44 pm
Candy
JC is ok but my first forays onto this website he was the number one attack dog. He softens though if you hang around long enough.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:50 pm
Kelly
With you it’s got worse I think. You’re pest, but of course you know that anyway.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
Surely the lesson then, is that when the shit’s really hitting the fan, you can’t even make money shorting, because of all the unpredictability and also government interference.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 10:54 pm
I admit sometimes I say things just to stir some people up even if I don’t 100% believe it myself. I do mean it about the dollar though but timing is impossible.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 10:55 pm
John Quiggin calls it a day.
http://johnquiggin.com/2012/04/17/the-new-era/
Richard Craig
17 Apr 12 at 10:55 pm
The guys that made billions shorting the sub-prime crisis were extremely worried their “bets” would be worthless if everything collapsed. Luckily Uncle Sam came to the rescue.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
“He softens though if you hang around long enough”
mayhaps.
candy
17 Apr 12 at 11:02 pm
Just for Samson. The nfms you want to hold up as some sort of right wing leader is self taught via wikipedia.
(translation via google.)
nilk
17 Apr 12 at 11:03 pm
The real lesson is never ever get married to a idea without having set limit in the amount of capital you can afford to lose on an idea.
Secondly it’s market dynamics stupid.
But really it about managing capital…. always.
Look dad, in reality my wins to losses are probably 50/50. However my capital win to lose ratio is pretty decent at around 3.8 to 1. That’s because I’m a real pussy with losses and a total pig with gains.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
Yea and timing as their contract were essentially options and they had an expiry date.
The book was great. I was laughing out loud about those two idiots bumbling around the market not knowing what was going on deciding to short the market because it was a good idea as someone told them… and walking away with $500 million. No one gave them any respect, even when they made money
JC
17 Apr 12 at 11:08 pm
JC
That is really good. That is why I am an investor not a trader as it is said 80% lose money trading (at least day trading anyway). I tried day trading for about a week and lost a sizable amount of money for me so thought better not to try that again. How long do you hold a stock on average would you think and do you have stocks that you do not trade?
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
I liked the autistic trader who told all his clients to take a holiday involving sex and travel because they annoyed him.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Was that the Doc, IT. He was a really really smart guy. Doctor Michael Burry? He had aspergers and communicated with his wife by email, which at times I think is not a bad idea to communicate with any woman, as that way there’s no lying, or going back about what was said. I may suggest that to wifey in the morning.
Could end up using the Birdian:-
“no you’re lying” schtick.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
The funniest TV show on the planet just started.
Tom
17 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
Yep, it’s brilliant isn’t it
JC
17 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
Yep. Michael Burry.
Infidel Tiger
17 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
Don’t get too cocky.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:25 pm
I think, if done properly, it could be a really good movie. Those two jokers that almost couldn’t get set in their trades because the I-banks didn’t take them seriously would be very funny in a well done movie.
We always used to get stupid calls from people wanting to do deals with us and it was just some joker from his basement.
‘
One time, this was after the 1st gulf war, this idiot called in and said he had say a truck load of Iraqi dinar in cash he wanted to sell us. I told him we had 30 pallets of the stuff we could sell him for 100 bucks if he wanted. Then there were all these idiots calling about some scheme they had cooked up like getting dollars into north korea and shit.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 11:27 pm
John Quiggin has drawn stumps, following LP, how much longer can Troppo last?
Rafe
17 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
The gold deals were always the best. Some moron would call and say he had a few tons of gold to sell us at a huge discount to the market and were we interested. But we first had to credit his account with dollars.
JC
17 Apr 12 at 11:30 pm
Sounds like a Nigerian:)
Rafe
17 Apr 12 at 11:31 pm
Are you serious? So the Nigerian scam was even tried on real bankers.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
Troppo seems to be going fine. I’d be surprised if they folded.
daddy dave
17 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
Not completely he says he will still be blogging somewhere and cross posting.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:34 pm
The rich botanical history of the swede, turip or rutabaga.
Troppo might survive but they struggle to get any life in their threads. They are out of ideas. I bet it is not growing like Catallaxy.
Rafe
17 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
Oh yea, about once a week or so, some doofus would call saying he had a ton of glold t sell at a huge discount.
One fucker pretended he was trying to sell president Marcos gold stash.
They tried anything.
There was one famous case where some dude pretending he was a large firm photocopied, literally copy and pasted bank of America’s annual accounts under a false companky name and wanted a credit limit to deal.
The credit office of the bank knew the balance sheet immediately as BofA’s and called the FBI.
This sort of stuff was happening all the time.
Jc
17 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
More things that you might have wanted to know about turnips but were too afraid to ask.
Rafe
17 Apr 12 at 11:47 pm
It is a long time since I have eaten a turnip.
kelly liddle
17 Apr 12 at 11:51 pm
The Left’s hero. One piece of filth cosies up to another.
JULIAN Assange‘s new talk show has premiered on the Kremlin’s English-language satellite broadcaster, its opening episode featuring an interview with Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
Refers to Nasrallah as “extraordinary” and the “interview” is basically a right old Israel-bashing performance.
Gab
17 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
Ed Morrissey takes down that CNN poll that showed Obama at 52% and Romney at 43%.
Again, another good job from the guy.
Alex Pundit
17 Apr 12 at 11:57 pm
Absolutely fucking unbelievable.
America is really becoming fascist.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:01 am
Isn’t that Double Jeopardy?
Alex Pundit
18 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
Autistic psychopath gameboy hacker becomes attention-seeking financial whore. And the cocksucking Australian journalism industry gave him a hero’s award, another reason why this nation’s media is incapable of the truth and can never be trusted again.
Tom
18 Apr 12 at 12:14 am
I guess it’s not if it’s that sewer called Congress.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:16 am
Yes JC and how many banksters are still on the loose?
Just about all of them. Financial fascism rules.
Alice
18 Apr 12 at 12:48 am
I didn’t agree on the bankster point Alice.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
The douchiest paragraph ever to appear on the Internet, courtesy of the Papa Troll, Iq49.
The scary thing is that he might actually be correct in his intimation that the bulk of ASIO and ASIS’ intelligence gathering consists of trolling LP.
Les Majesty
18 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
Whenever I read the word “banksters” in a blog comment, my mind’s ear fills in a soundtrack of flippy-floppy clown shoes.
Right up there with the sober admonition “WAKE UP SHEEPLE!” for making my eyebrows twitch.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 1:11 am
Hey Les
I read another column somewhere about Romney sticking his dog on top of the car and driving at 80 MPH for 8 or so hours. He talked about how much the dog loved it.
What do you think.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 1:22 am
It’s time – quite seriously…
Time to put these people in jail.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 1:23 am
In breaking news…
The Kenyan imbecile announces plan to control the oil market.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 1:26 am
Yea of course. Regulation of the futures markets will increase production and supply.. who needs the Keystone pipeline.
Fuck he’s an idiot.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 1:29 am
CNN poll was fixed.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 1:30 am
JC
Even Romney’s dog thinks he is a c___.
Nuff’ said.
Les Majesty
18 Apr 12 at 1:34 am
Fleeced:
See:
http://www.thincs.org/discuss.CoQ10.htm
at
The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics
http://www.thincs.org/discuss.htm
AND
IN the search box, insert statins at this site:
http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/
——-
I am not against statins per se but the refusal to recommend a COQ10, a very safe supplement with a statin is silly. Whether or not cholesterol levels in themselves constitute a risk is a difficult question. Triglycerides, CRP values, systemic inflammation, lipo A, levels may be just as important. I have read many cardiologists who have expressed doubts about the over prescribing of statins. Of course they don’t get a voice. What most people don’t know is that our brains produce their own supply of cholesterol and this is impacted by statin drugs.
Statin drugs are life savers but that doesn’t mean they will save everyone.
CONCLUSION: In patients intolerant to statin therapy due to myalgia or other
muscular adverse effects, strategies such as alternative statin dosing schedules,
coenzyme Q10 or vitamin D supplementation, and conversion to RYR or an
alternative statin may allow some patients to continue to receive the benefits of
lipid-lowering therapy.
PMID: 22302254 [PubMed - in process]
1. Bratisl Lek Listy. 2011;112(11):603-4.
Effects of atorvastatin on heart mitochondrial function and coenzyme Q content in
the experiment.
Kucharska J, Ulicna O, Gvozdjakova A, Vancova O, Waczulikova I, Bozek P, Bada V.
Pharmacobiochemical Laboratory of Third Department of lnternal Medicine, Faculty
of Medicine, Comenius University, Bratislava, Slovakia.
[email protected]
We focused on determination of whether atorvastatin: 1) reduces CoQ content, 2)
impairs mitochondrial function and 3) induces dose-dependent changes. Although
the high dose of atorvastatin exerted a beneficial effect on the lipid
peroxidation in plasma, coenzyme Q content was reduced and heart mitochondrial
function was impaired. Physicians should be aware when prescribing statins mainly
in higher doses to the patients with co-existing proved or supposed CoQ10
deficiency resulting from age-related decline, and metabolic or mitochondrial
diseases (Ref. 3).
PMID: 22180983 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
:
John H.
18 Apr 12 at 1:42 am
You know what Obama has done here?
Re-introduced Rudd’s FuelWatch.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 1:43 am
I assume you lot on here have been up in arms today about the revelation Peter Costello is being paid $3,300 a day of tax-payers money by his Qld govt mates?
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/costello-worth-3300-a-day-newman-20120416-1x3u6.html#ixzz1sFCucfyT
LaRouchite
18 Apr 12 at 2:15 am
Oh, gee. I won’t know what to think until one of the PP Boyz weighs in, LaDouche.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 2:21 am
How about thinking for yourself, what is it with right-wingers and groupthink?
LaRouchite
18 Apr 12 at 2:25 am
Brought to you by the letters W, T and F.
http://twitchy.com/2012/04/17/anti-racist-swedish-cultural-minister-slices-into-minstrel-cake/
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 3:12 am
What a coincidence. Everyone here thinks the same of you.
Abu Chowdah
18 Apr 12 at 3:22 am
Sdog, from the link it appears that the Swedish feminists started by taking a slice out of the pubic region of the cake, in solidarity no doubt with Sweden’s growing migrant community.
Abu Chowdah
18 Apr 12 at 3:28 am
From the article describing it, via Ace:
Lovely.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 3:53 am
Stupid stupid stupid people.
This is Obama’s main voter base.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 6:58 am
Speaking of stupid people, these despicable thugs hate taxpayers but hate Abbott even more. An act of pure spite:
When will the madness end? Arrrgh!
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/labor_tries_to_bind_the_liberals_to_years_of_waste/
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 7:33 am
First-hand testimony on this thread suggests that statins attack the public purse, your wallet, your brain, and your liver. Don’t some of you feel an obligation to try and get your relatives off this poisonous side-show elixer?
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 7:55 am
They most definitely want to shut everyone up: the latest Gillard edict on public servants commenting.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
18 Apr 12 at 7:59 am
Public servants prevented from criticising Gillardian policies…the media will be gagged next…and then us.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:06 am
MilneBSwatch:
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:09 am
Finance Minister Penny Wong in The Australian Financial Review last Thursday:
RED tape frustrates all business owners . . . Removing unnecessary regulation is not something that will be achieved by mouthing slogans or throwing around savings numbers without any detail . . . reducing regulatory burden is a key element of the government’s productivity agenda.
From Greg Combet’s website:
THE Minister for Industry and Innovation, Greg Combet, said the Government would: Extend Australian Industry Participation requirements to projects funded by Australian Government grants of more than $20 million. Increase scrutiny of the implementation of Australian Industry Participation Plans (AIP Plans), particularly for private sector projects valued at more than $2 billion that seek tariff concessions from the Enhanced Project By-law Scheme (EPBS); Require major projects to publish summaries of AIP Plans, including details on how they will seek and use information on Australian industry capabilities. . .
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:14 am
We’re blaming Tony Abbott’s relentless negativity for this I assume?
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 8:16 am
This is all about silencing whistleblowers…
First they made it illegal for public servants to discuss the government programs they are implementing to the media. That legislation has been used to chase down people reporting on the detention centre riots and scandals on Chris Bowen’s watch.
Of course the people started releasing the information via pseudonyms, so our totalitarian government has now issued this edict.
Token
18 Apr 12 at 8:18 am
“Richard Epstein, WSJ:
Cancer Patients Deserve Faster Access to Life-Saving Drugs
Companies should be able to promote all uses of their drugs that are reliably shown to be effective….”
Its not as if cancer is a disease of drug-deficiency. So nothing much is likely to be lost by these delays. The FDA delays aren’t there to establish safety. They are for the drug companies to keep profits up on the drugs they already have.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 8:32 am
Simply staggering – do these sh*theaded tosspots honestly think we’re as braindead as they are?
Or is it just a matter of “if we say it, then it must be true”?
FFS.
Rabz
18 Apr 12 at 8:33 am
That edict means several prominent contributors here must cease posting comments.
Rabz
18 Apr 12 at 8:35 am
The government hopes will not have to face up to facts like this in the future:
Token
18 Apr 12 at 8:43 am
It is unusual in the industry I’m in, though, dd. Every other Web site of any size whatsoever has aligned themselves with one of the gambling outlets, in many cases doing special promotions tied to blog content or competitions. There are deals to not only give affiliate revenue for signing up new gambling customers, but actually sharing in the profits on those customers so that you get more money for signing up problem gamblers who lose big amounts. I think I’m the only one in my market sector to take this stance, apart from North Melbourne FC after their sponsorship by World Vision a month or two ago.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 8:46 am
And the lies just keep on coming…
Bill Shorten, April 16 2012:
“Mr Shorten said the vehicle builders’ union would be aware if Toyota had breached its industrial agreement under the redundancy notification provisions.
“As a general rule of thumb you are always better off taking the volunteers, the ones who want to go, you’re better off letting go and the ones who want to stay, you are better off keeping on.”
But the minister said he did not know the full mix of skills and business Toyota required.
The number of days of sick leave taken by employees should not be grounds for selecting workers, he said.”
Perhaps he had a memory lapse:
“What’s crazy is that Toyota has gone to huge lengths already to do its 350 layoffs properly. It’s got the unions’ approval of the process, briefed Ministers such as Bill Shorten and Wayne Swan beforehand, and paid big money in redundancy payments:
The Altona Agreement, made with the union in 2011, provides for redundancy packages of up to 84 weeks’ pay, plus unused leave entitlements, for workers who “propose themselves” to management for “voluntary redundancy”. For the average long-serving employee this amount could be between $150,000 and $250,000.”
Government propping up car company with no ROI for taxpayers. It’s been done before and the result is the same. They’ll never learn.
“THE Rudd government will give Toyota $35 million to produce hybrid Camry vehicles at its Altona plant in Melbourne, the prime minister Kevin Rudd announced.”
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:47 am
Bill Shorten again on Toyota’s treatment of the redundant workers:
“But the more sympathetically it can be delivered, obviously the easier it is for people when they’re losing their jobs.”
Toyota was a large and sophisticated company and should afford its workers some dignity, the minister said.
It should not be necessary to enshrine how companies should treat their employees when axing jobs in the Fair Work Act.
“”You shouldn’t always need the black letter of the parliamentary law to tell people how to treat other people well,” Mr Shorten said.
“The golden rule is treat people as you would like to be treated yourself, I would say to Toyota management.
“And if you think that test isn’t sufficient, I’d go to golden rule number two, treat your employees like you would like to treat your son and daughter.”"
Toyota workers treated badly? Blame the union and Work Cover.
“As for the presence of security guards, the Health and Safety legislation pretty much makes it impossible for the company not to take every precaution and mitigate every possible risk. Even AMWU state vehicle division secretary Paul Difelice told ABC radio “I don’t know how people are going to take it when they’re told they’re no longer required”.
An employee may be upset that they either did – or didn’t – get a redundancy package. There is a risk that someone could say something awful, perhaps abuse another employee, or even resort to violence. All liability for bullying or assault claims through Work Cover lies with the company.”
And now for what doesn’t get reported by the presstitutes:
“Reader Ooh Honey Honey:
I’ve been working at Toyota over the past two weeks and some of those dismissed walked past me yesterday. The remaining staff seemed very cheerful and diligent. I asked one operator what he thought and without hesitation he said “Well they’ve gone after the right people”, I asked “On what grounds” and he was a little more circumspect, saying “Oh, just stuff they did, the time they took off..””
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:57 am
Good to see that over 150 Cat readers checked out the critique of Green policies. I hope some of you bought the book as well!
Interesting also that the defender of the Greens did not get back with any rejoinder to the criticism.
Rafe
18 Apr 12 at 9:16 am
“Flawed tax figures hide budget pain as Treasury misses revenue tumble.”
Our journalists are incompetent. What budget pain? They never sack anyone, they never cut anything. Yet in the media you have all this talk about toughness. What is tough about reducing a burden? Its like saying that the emperor was being tough if he let the gladiators go as free citizens. There is a constant misuse of the language.
Government austerity means private abundance. Whereas the overspending in the states translates directly to 20%+ unemployment. Yet people talk about “austerity” and toughness when they mean cost-cutting in government.
They are not going to run a surplus. Wayne Swan refuses to run a surplus. Never did he have any intention of running a surplus. Instead of running a surplus, cutting any spending, firing anyone, or curtailing new spending ambitions, they somehow manage to get the journalists talking about toughness and austerity.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 9:28 am
If that is the case, get rid of the stinking laws. The company has to follow the law, or it will get sued by unions. ‘I was just trying to be a decent person’ isn’t much defense against a union lawyer with 5 chips on his shoulder.
I detest the way the union movement clamours for regulations on everything, and then turns around and moans there is too much regulation.
It’s like Julia and her ‘Green Tape’ BS. If Green Tape is such an issue, dump the freaking carbon tax.
I don’t know how these people live with themselves. That much self-aware dishonesty and public lies would tear my conscience to threads. Yet chumps like Craig Thomson actually have the gall to smile to the media with a ‘We’re all getting away with it’ smirk.
brc
18 Apr 12 at 9:39 am
Well said (Bird?).
.
18 Apr 12 at 9:40 am
I thought Bird also but there just wasn’t any flourish.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 9:42 am
“RED tape frustrates all business owners . . . Removing unnecessary regulation is not something that will be achieved by mouthing slogans or throwing around savings numbers without any detail . . . reducing regulatory burden is a key element of the government’s productivity agenda.”
How self-referential is this? Mouthing slogans about mouthing slogans. For her next trick she’ll reach down into her mouth and turn herself inside-out. Its like the Wayne Swan surplus. She is not going to reduce the volume of legislation, she knows it now, this is deliberate triangulation by a communist, and the journalist goes along with the charade.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 9:53 am
Damned right, when they come for you they will be brandishing the APS Code of Conduct and enough sickening hypocrisy to last you a life time.
You kids better do some boning up on the circular and maybe even think about joining the CPSU.
New Gold Dream
18 Apr 12 at 10:00 am
LOL, no one should have any confidence in the Australian Public Service.
New Gold Dream
18 Apr 12 at 10:02 am
JC
Have you considered a long dated put on the Euro?
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:05 am
Fantastic news. Amazon is looking for a local warehouse.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:22 am
Some ignorant fool is blaming Sydney’s ethnic drive by shooting bonanza on legal hand guns:
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/why-do-we-need-any-more-semiautomatic-pistols-in-australia-20120417-1x5jh.html
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:26 am
Haha try deadshit bikies and the lack of a racketeering offences in NSW and Australia.
That’s right, this libertarian wants a new law.
I think under current NSW law Crimes Act s 93 S-U the maximum you can get for racketeering is 5+5 years (and maybe another two for intimidation).
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:41 am
A blog for people who want to comment uncensored on Bird’s posts (no, I didn’t set it up, it was Birdflapz)
http://birdclone.wordpress.com/
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 10:43 am
What about Big Bird Brain? I weep that site is no longer active. It was a monument to educating Graeme on the flaws of Sen. Mc Carthy.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:45 am
Birdflapz is a creepy stalker in my book.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:47 am
I love it when Bird lets loose
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 10:48 am
Oh dear.
And I had just joked earlier on Twitter, linking to the Daily Tele report of the recent shootings,
The Left in Australia is officially beyond parody.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 10:50 am
Hmm I have to log in…
Here. For posterity.
“So you see these fucking grasshoppers eat the DDT in this story. And this fucking frog eats this motherload of DDT which is eternal. At least if you soak it in fat. And then the fucking trout comes along and he cannot stop eating frogs, complete c**t that he is. Frogs minding his own business and the trout just comes up and eats him like he has nothing better to do.”
Hang the Trout!
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:50 am
Anything from Monty, Jarrah, Steve and the usual peanut gallery?
No?
So it’s cool, then.
If they do weigh in – watch for the Big But.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 10:54 am
An important new book.
Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and Its Shameless Coverup.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 10:57 am
This is a magnificent precedent. Just think of the possibilities for a different government. Banning public servants from expressing Leftist opinions would just be the beginning.
Fisky
18 Apr 12 at 11:02 am
Lol
It’s the first thing I thought of, Fisk. Threaten to fire any of them along with removing their right to any retirement benefits.
I guess that generational taxeater Mike Jericho is fine because he never criticizes them.
Excellent excellent idea.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:07 am
Oh, yes! Romney now 48-43 on Gallup.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx
Fisky
18 Apr 12 at 11:07 am
Moral of the story: always watch Rasmussen, because it picks up these trends before every other poll. And the current trend shows people are sick and tired of the Kenyan.
Fisky
18 Apr 12 at 11:09 am
JC, the possibilities, now that we have the valuable precedent, are making me salivate.
Fisky
18 Apr 12 at 11:11 am
The ban on public servants criticising the government is going to affect about 5 to 6 people in Australia tops.
Fisk is right though, it’s a magnificent precedent for the coming ban on leftism.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:12 am
It’s almost like they thought “Silencing Dissent” was an instruction manual.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 11:13 am
Birdie’s advice if a person gets cancer.
So I should listen equally to you and my regular doc if I had cancer, hey bird?
By: Achmed, the first dead terrorist.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:14 am
I hope so sweetheart. If not, Yabbott will have a shorter stay as PM than Rudd.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:15 am
Me too, Fisk , me too.
It’s a gift to the Right. The Liars Party are doing all the right things here, I must say.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:16 am
PUBLIC servants have been gagged from criticising Gillard government policies on blogs, Facebook and Twitter — even if they use an alias.
Yes, precisely the sort of diktat you’d expect from a government
NOTexperiencing a “crisis of governance”.dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 11:16 am
Silliness aside, some ‘treatment’ of cancer is simply quakery masquerading as medicine. A lot of it is psychological succour, really. It’s like, ‘you’re going to die – so we’re going to kill you to prevent that happening.’
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:23 am
Buffet’s stock is down because of this.
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/04/17/warren-buffet-diagnosed-with-stage-1-prostate-cancer/?mod=google_news_blog
He’s in his 80′s of course he’s likely to have prostrate cancer and they send the stock down. Fme.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:23 am
I see it’s still not raining in Sydney, the Central Coast and elsewhere. Yes, building any new dams would have been completely futile.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 11:23 am
CL
Chemo is getting much better. Radiation treatment is being targeted. They are working on individualized drugs that conform to a person’s DNA.
There is serious shit being worked on at the time moment.
Look at breast cancer. It was pretty much a death sentence and now it’s a treatable disease., not all cases of course.
They’re getting better at it.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:27 am
get ready for the next Birdian conspiracy – the Shadow government gave Buffett cancer
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 11:27 am
You sure he likes Buffet, Jase. I thought he was never a fan of Mr Integrity.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:28 am
On another of this vomitous government’s multiple fronts of war against free speech…
Very good point. If Methodist morals campaigner Roxon’s beloved plain packaging laws are allowed, any future government could make it compulsory for all new cars to feature livery warning against ‘climate change.’
I still think the Canberra-ensconsed poodles of the High Court will do everything possible to invent ‘law’ to please the government, though.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:30 am
If Buffett has said something against the banks, Birdy will be on it
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 11:32 am
Stage 1 cancer – he should be okay.
Abiraterone and DCA would probably KO it. I think they’ll brachytherapy and then excise with mild radiation and some mild chemo to follow up just in case.
It is actually amazing what prednisolone, aspirin and thalidomide can do with a regular prostate cancer drug.
More amazing is that cancer targeting with ligand molecules can make an old drug like placitaxel highly effective.
.
18 Apr 12 at 11:32 am
Hideous lesbian gargoyle attacks Abbott and Greg Sheridan:
So Abbott is just drinking coffee at a cafe…
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:32 am
C.L.: Or if they reckon by all objective measures you have, say, a year left, they’ll make that entire time a living hell just to give you an extra 3 months, and call it “winning” – and psychologically burden you with the label “quitter” if you’re not happy to play along.
Read Lionel Shriver’s “So Much for All That” if you get a chance.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 11:34 am
Oh dear, the protestor’s name is Ali Hogg.
you couldn’t make this up
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 11:35 am
Wonder who tipped off the six lezzos where Abbott was.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:36 am
Abbott looks as cool as a cucumber and bemused, although Sheridan looks really pissed.
Ali’s a pretty little thing.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:39 am
He’s a politician so he’s going to be a target for activists, and the reality is that when they have official engagements the police simply shunt activists away.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:40 am
Concealed carry laws could have eneded that disturbance far quicker.
I note that the majority of commenters at the gay site it was linked at were pissed off at the dyke, not Abbott.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:41 am
dullard’s office?
Rabz
18 Apr 12 at 11:41 am
The worst thing about the plain packaging campaign is its complete lack of principle. Those for it simply hate tobacco companies and are therefore supporting a principle they would not otherwise support in any other like instance.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 11:41 am
Look at them “peacefully” banging on the windows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIMVxLbTgko&feature=player_embedded
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:43 am
one of the gay commenters on the same same website gets it
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 11:43 am
Yea I saw some of the comments. They are pretty reasonable. In fact I tend to think a large number of gay men are actaully quite right wing…. just an impression.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:47 am
A good Steve Sailer generalisation – Lesbians are more political. Gays, like most men are just into the sex.
http://www.isteve.com/lesvsgay.htm
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 11:49 am
Did we all get bored with free speech when it gets a bit noisy?
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:50 am
Hideous lesbian gargoyle attacks Abbott and Greg Sheridan
The comments thread at the “same same” site is heartening.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 11:51 am
‘sactly. Notice my comment wasn’t also suggestive of nasty leftwing bull dykes
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:52 am
Banging on a privately owned window and causing a disturbance like that is free speech, bob?
Leftism of course is a street based credo, so I’m not surprised you find no problem with that.
You fat useless asshat.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:54 am
Yes, I don’t know how you can define it as anything other than free speech, and this from Bolt who thinks himself a matyr to the cause of free speech.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:57 am
If gay marriage does come about, we must stand fast and not allow lesbians to marry. There is much evidence that they are not really into it any way:
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/136694/
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:57 am
wouldn’t it be illegal to protest in a private premises like a restaurant, and even if they’re just banging on the windows outside people in there having a meal if they had small children, the kids would be naturally frightened.
it dosn’t seem at all right.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 12:02 pm
“Tony Abbott, you’re a bigot, gay marriage you don’t dig it!”
Ugh. Just, no.
AJ
18 Apr 12 at 12:06 pm
Okay Bob, lets say me and a few other righties drive up to Whale Beach and started screaming at the top of our lungs..
” Bob is a fat, useless taxeater”, at the top of our lungs in addition to banging on the picket fence in front of your home and creating lots of noise*.
Is that free speech or creating a disturbance?
Would you call the cops or say to yourself.. well, these young people have a right to express their opinion in front of my home.
Lets take it one step further and create a more serious scenario.
What if a large number of Jews had enough of your antisemitic ravings and started serious protests in front of your home screaming out
“bob is a jewhating nazi prick”
How would you feel Bobster? Tell us.
* Dunno if you have a picket fence, just adding to the drama of the scene.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:06 pm
I’m not a politician and the fact is that politicians no longer hold public meetings, but media events in public protected by millions of dollars worth of tax-payer funded security.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:08 pm
My mentor killed Joe Frazier and he showed me all da tricks.
JamesK
18 Apr 12 at 12:10 pm
And face it, JC, if the vomit that comes out of your mouth is not a public disturbance but free speech then ‘everything is permitted’.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:11 pm
Was Whale Beach named after Bob?
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
Yes they do. They are speaking at public events all the time. You may not like the venues where righties speak but they do hold meetings…. like the Tamworth Lions club and shit like that.
In any event the other people aren’t pols who were there eating their dinner.
They need security, especially the Right these days, because race riots are even started by the PM and her office.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
Actually bob, it’s permitted speech. It’s not free speech because it has nothing to do with the right to political dissent in a public forum or setting.
This is a private site and I’m permitted to speak at the owner’s pleasure.
lastly, you’re an imbecile as you don’t understand what free speech is about.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:15 pm
Is a Lions club meeting really a public meeting? In any event, political leaders never appear in public except for a stage-managed media performance with security forces sweeping away all free speech before it.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
Mr Agonistes is struggling with this one, like his namesake.
it’s wrong to go around public places and pester ordinary people doing their job like in a restaurant and other people just eating a meal
you know that you big silly billy
candy
18 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
Caught unawares in public places is the only place you can protest.
Moreover, should taking photos of gay politicians entering bath houses be banned or is it press freedom?
The presss lie in wait for politicians and media celebrities in public places all the time, so should this be banned?
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
Perhaps they don’t appear in public as much any more because the medium of mass communication has changed greatly with the numerous ways of getting the message across.
Is the Lions club public…. I’m sure even you could get a free ticket and listen to Barneby speak at a lions club do.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
Rotary gave me an 80 dollar educational award once upon a time, so I’ll think I’ll go there.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:24 pm
The restaurant is privately owned “place” bob. I know the term doesn’t sink in with you except for all the shit you own, like the house in Whale Beach etc.
However Abbott behaved like a gentleman with the fat bull dyke. He let her do her song and dance and when she was finished he told her that she had made her point and that was that.
The owner of course had to push the bull out of the place.
No, because that isn’t creating an immediate disturbance. It’s not a nice thing to do to anyone though.
Nope.
Look Bob, we should simply adopt the US system, where it’s almost impossible for a public person to sue and there are few limitations.
Having said that, US laws would also prevent that bull dyke from creating such a disturbance in a private establishment, you goofball.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:27 pm
Always there with the hand out, aren’t you.
It’s almost entrepreneurial in the way you lefties go through grants like shit looking for ways to exploit the holes and get a sack of cash. It’s almost commendable in a way because you’re all always thinking of how to loot the treasury. Pity that creativity can’t be put to better use.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:30 pm
Hand out – I won it unsolicited for educational performance.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:36 pm
The owner was right to push them outside and try to stop them banging on the windows, but apart from that it seems a legitimate protest.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:38 pm
Ummm yea, but they wouldn’t be protesting if they weren’t able to do that. They wouldn’t be there.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:41 pm
Was it an eating contest? Like how many burgers you an devour in one setting?
JC
18 Apr 12 at 12:42 pm
Mitt Romney put his beloved dog on the car roof. Barack Obama put a strange dog in his mouth.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 12:51 pm
No, it was for sticking hotdogs up the anuses of right wingers.
It was a performance artwork.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:54 pm
Shouting and waving placards in a public place is usually a legal protest.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 12:58 pm
SA
You can really get stuck into JC today all markets up.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 1:08 pm
So Obama eats dogs.
Disgusting.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 1:16 pm
Bird proved right on Carl Williams conspiracy?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-18/prison-warned-carl-williams-could-be-murdered/3957580
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 1:22 pm
Funny, but I’m far more placid when i lose money. Made a decent bunch last night too.
————-
Everyone knows how I’ve been looking for ways to make money out of the US gas and oil boom. Found it.
Energy production from gas turbines is now cheaper than coal in the US.
All you need to do is stick a turbine at the end of the shale gas pipe and you have really clean efficient energy that is cheaper than coal fired.
There’s a little company by the name of Capstone turbines in the US that is absolutely geared to this new tech.
It’s trading around a buck and if this shit takes off as I think it will this could be a 10 buck stock.
I think the market is not really understanding the leverage this stock has and it also doesn’t understand it’s recent strategy. It had a recent stock issue to retire debt and add to working capital however the market sold the stock down because of dilution when in fact it ought to be applauding less debt gearing and more working capital in a seriously growing business sector.
look at it and love Capstone.
Here’s the firms product suite.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 1:22 pm
“My mentor killed Joe Frazier and he showed me all da tricks.”
The mass murder of people who come to the medical profession for assistance is nothing for a doctor to be flippant about. I guess people have become nihilistic. Worn down and incapable of outrage any more. Cancer is a very bad way to go. This is a crime against humanity that ought to be compared with the worst outrages of Stalin.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
No, it was for sticking hotdogs up the anuses of right wingers.
I sort of guessed this was just a beat for you.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
steve blogs on his favourite topics – dick and homosexuality
http://opiniondominion.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/not-so-secret-life-of-richard.html
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 1:26 pm
Here’s the latest press release from Capstone to get an idea what’s going on in the shale gas markets and why it’s absolutely fucking transformative.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 1:26 pm
I’d be saying, “Who is that vagrant and who did he steal those designer jeans from?”
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 1:34 pm
This is really interesting too as it’s suggesting large entities may go off grid and produce their own energy with a turbine and a regular old gas line.
So entities such as hospital are buying a turbine and accessing the cheap gas to power up and heat the building!
As I keep saying.It’s really transformational.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 1:34 pm
Public servants gagged?? Sorry, but there have always been caveats on public servants making comments in a private capacity that could affect perceptions of their ability to do their jobs impartially, an key element of the APS Values and the APS Code of Conduct.
The usual criteria for deciding whether a comment is unacceptable are (a) the extent of the public servant’s work involvement with the issue on which he/she has commented and (b) the seniority of the public servant – a Dep Sec making political comment as a private citizen is of somewhat more concern, in terms of perceptions of bias, than and APS4. So long as they abide by these caveats, Commonwealth public servants they can say what they like.
So far as I am aware, this hasn’t changed. What the Commission is doing, however, is reminding employees that these caveats apply as much to comments on Facebook and other social as they do to, say, letters to the editor.
Des Deskperson
18 Apr 12 at 1:48 pm
It’s a dog eat dog world, after all…
Rabz
18 Apr 12 at 1:50 pm
That’s the sort of action that warrants an immediate nobel peace prize.
Rabz
18 Apr 12 at 1:52 pm
This is apparently a thing.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 1:57 pm
The dog with rabzees is back.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 1:58 pm
Lol
Oh yea, Rabz.. I mispelt Blob. Sorry.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 1:58 pm
JC
I will be devils advocate for you. The only thing it has on fuel cells which are much more efficient is capital costs. Fuel cells do have the dissadvantage though that they can’t turn on and off like a gas turbine. The units are of no use for baseload power supply as they are very innefficient around 30% versus 49% for a modern efficient standard plant. The hospital thing is because they are saving costs on the distribution of electricity not because the electricity is being produced more cheaply. Remote area they do seem to be good for micropower and possibly for peak load but it seems unlikely to me because much larger gas turbines would be cheaper. So it is a niche market and it depends on if that niche is big enough and competition in that niche market.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 1:59 pm
Calm down Samson as you’re likely to burst your poofle valve.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 2:00 pm
Well howdy doody to you too, aunty agoniste!
Rabz
18 Apr 12 at 2:00 pm
Spot, your link, like Samson, it no work.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 2:02 pm
Of course they are for niches, Kelly. However the “niche” is getting larger and larger.
Fuel cells? Lets look at them when the tech is better.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 2:04 pm
It might be just as well that it didn’t, Gab o_0
But still, here:
http://healthland.time.com/2012/04/17/skin-lightener-for-womens-private-parts-sparks-media-controversy-and-safety-concerns/?iid=hl-article-mostpop1
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 2:06 pm
Ahahahahahahaha.
Idiots.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 2:09 pm
Jason: I amused by the way that English pamphlet writers in the 18th century complaining about the amount of homosexuality sound rather like Catallaxy commenters:
steve from brisbane
18 Apr 12 at 2:13 pm
The tech is better but the costs in manufacture are much higher. I have shares in ceramic fuel cells CFU. It is a gamble I know but they can get electrical efficiency up to about 60% or to 80% if you include water heating. The main cost is Zircon to make them I believe. Yes is relying on green handouts most probably. They are made in micro, only 2kw units and about the size of a washing machine.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 2:14 pm
SfB, you want to leave that one alone. Stick to trimming.
#caring
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 2:15 pm
re. the subject of TIME Magazine piece I mean. But maybe teh whole ghey thing as well.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 2:16 pm
I [was] amused by the way that English pamphlet writers in the 18th century…sound rather like Catallaxy commenters
Learned, vigorous, wry, among other things? Why, thank you, Sir.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 2:18 pm
Yes, yes, but what’s your take on the protesters? We all agree on Bob.
Abu Chowdah
18 Apr 12 at 2:19 pm
Steve you have to cut this bit out how many academics around here? Maybe there are many gays around here otherwise why aren’t they doing real mens jobs instead of such an unmanly thing like putting their manicured hands on a keyboard. It is only 25 years ago that typing was considered womens work.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 2:22 pm
I’m not sure if what the writer says leads to sodomy, but he’s damn well on the money about everything else.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 2:24 pm
Hey Stepford.
Why did you remove my comment from your blog?
JC
18 Apr 12 at 2:25 pm
According to Bird, it’s high inflation caused by fractional reserve which leads to sodomy
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 2:25 pm
I wish Abbott would stop assisting the people smugglers and cashed-up queue jumpers:
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 2:28 pm
Kelly
I don’t care what you own.
250 million profit is doable for Capstone. Stick a 12 multiple om that and you end up with $3 billion in market cap. That’s basically 11 bucks a share. I’m happy with that. In fact this evening I will be buying more.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 2:29 pm
I knew it was you, JC.
steve from brisbane
18 Apr 12 at 2:32 pm
Indians are obsessed with being white. The ads for skin whiteners are hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgBevCTBTJw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=2hqTyiP6N-M&feature=endscreen
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 2:33 pm
If you make just one change in your life this should be it. A return to the man’s breakfast.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 2:34 pm
Time magazine:
‘Hey, you know what women today really want? To be spanked, that’s what.’
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 2:35 pm
I know you don’t just saying.
JC
What drugs have you been taking? Lets give them say $5000 per unit profit. So sales of 50 000 units when they sold a whole 150 last year. Even Steve could figure out that seems unlikely.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 2:35 pm
These people are absolutely sick. How many dead now since they dismantled the border protection system?
It really is all just a game to Labor.
What exactly are this “government who can’t govern without Tony Abbott’s OK” border policies now anyway?
I thought the malaysian thing was booted up the arse by the High Court and only covered 800 people. So what are they proposing now to cover 14,000?
twostix
18 Apr 12 at 2:35 pm
I went to a wedding in Malaysia a few years ago and some of the lasses went looking for some fake tan… might as well have asked for penis enlarging cream from the incredulous looks they received. Plenty of whitener, no bronzer.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 2:37 pm
Yeah, we could do with more of those 18th century pamphleteers in our school system
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 2:37 pm
Re breakfast:
Since returning from my Malaysian holiday, I miss being able to walk out to the street to buy nasi lemak (translation – fatty rice) for breakfast from the Malay woman streetside vendor.
There is nothing like getting a hit of chilli anchovies in the morning. It beats milk and cereal.
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 2:47 pm
What drugs have you been taking?
Krestor, why?
Don’t be a moron. You don’t have the figures to work that out.
Doofus,
they had sales of $81 million. So you’re saying the units cost $540,000 per piece?
They make their way to 1 billion in sales with and operating margin of 25%.
You don’t have enough information to be telling me how much a unit they are making no the price of the unit.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 2:50 pm
There’s also fees on servicing the machines too, which is recurring income.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 2:51 pm
“Crestor® is in a class of drugs called statins, which work by stopping an enzyme called HMG-CoA reductase from making cholesterol. ”
A scandal. Mindlessly treating a symptom of a problem, without enquiring into the reason ones cholesterol is high.
“One of the side effects of Crestor® is Rhabdomyolysis and occurs when a large number of skeletal muscle cells die. The death of the skeletal muscle cells results in the release of a massive amount of muscle protein into the bloodstream. This flood of muscle protein in the blood leads to the deadliest of Crestor® side effects.
The muscle protein becomes trapped in the kidneys, affecting the filtering process of the kidneys leading to possible, if not probable, kidney failure. Other related side effects include cardiac arrest resulting from potassium released from the damaged muscle cells.
Crestor® side effects have been the subject of much recent controversy, perhaps more so than any other cholesterol lowering medication introduced to date. Despite numerous objections due to safety concerns, the drug was approved by the FDA in August of 2003, and launched a month later.
The consequences of taking Crestor® medications are significant, possibly life altering, potentially lethal and include: cardiomyopathy, myopathy, necrotizing myopathy, heart attack, type 2 diabetes, sudden cardiac death, kidney failure and death from a heart related condition. The risks are overwhelming and have led to an outcry and demand for a Crestor® recall, by the public interest group, Public Citizen.”
You are mad to be taking a drug like this. You might as well take some sort of elixer from a travelling roadshow in the old West.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 3:19 pm
JC
My error that was sales for one particular model.
Can be pretty sure the profit for a small model will not be much. It is $15000 for a 50kva which is about 40kW. http://www.powercare.com.au/catalog/i21.html Diesel is likely to be more efficient though.
Anyway good luck with your trade.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 3:28 pm
We have to get used to the idea that the medical industry is dominated by quackery and organized crime. You may as well be getting your pills from Fat Tony. Actually the same network that runs the legal drug cartel also runs the illegal drugs. The OSS was a British creation, and later morphed to the CIA. Its early movers and shakers were people from the British aristocracy who had made their family money in the opium trade.
The American political class has a strong strain of opium-dealing families in it as well. At least in its history. So the two businesses, legal and illegal drugs, are really part of the same cartel. The legal drugs kill many more people every year than the illegal types. Boards of directors are interlocked with banking and CIA interests.
Nelson Rockefeller is thought to have been killed by his Columbian partners as a result of misallocating some of their money. As we have seen with fast and furious, the spooks are always dealing with these alleged outlaws in the drug trade. Thats because the CIA is the worlds biggest drug dealer.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 3:29 pm
Oh dear, Bird has been reading CEC publications? The Queen of England is in on it too, right Bird?
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 3:31 pm
hey Bird
did the CIA also invent AIDS to cull the black population?
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 3:34 pm
d_b, I suspect you are a pamphlet writer from the 18th century, if not earlier, communicating perhaps from the Other Side via a bit of spiritual technology, perhaps. Your devotion to philosophical approaches that have been discarded by thinkers for a century or two indicate a mind out of its appropriate era.
steve from brisbane
18 Apr 12 at 3:48 pm
I wouldn’t think so. But its hardly the result of green monkeys roaming around Africa and having sex with the native women, who have sex with their husbands, who travel to Haiti to become male prostitutes, who are used by rich American homos.
As powerfully plausible as the above story seems to some people that is unlikely to be the case. In all likelihood AIDS probably came out of the medical maffias biggest money-spinner which is vaccinations. The CIA story sounds like cover for a more plausible screw-up. You start less plausible rumours in order to cover for more important mess-ups. Vaccination catastrophes appear to have a long history of cover-up associated with them.
The real catastrophe of AIDS is AIDS treatment. Thats the mass-murder and scandal there.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 3:49 pm
You need a gig in the Sydney uni medical faculty, Graeme
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 3:51 pm
Don’t be taunting me with the name of the phantom of Catallaxy. A good health minister would have a lot of work to do. But he would find himself up against hidden political manipulation against him. The first thing to do would be an outright ban on Fluoride in the water. No more poisoning the water. Some European countries have had such a ban since the early 70′s. So there is a chance that it could be done without the American medical maffia stopping you.
The other thing is the absolute necessity of getting rid of all subsidies for the quacks, and adjusting pensions and the tax free threshold appropriately. We also need to promote various electrical methods of getting rid of pathogens. Oxidation clinics, particularly oxidation using monatomic (mono-atomic) anions of Oxygen.
So yeah there would be a lot of work to do. What is needed is a war on quackery.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 3:59 pm
WHat’s your view on vaccinations for kiddies, Doc?
Waste of time when we could just hook them up to car battery?
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 4:01 pm
I would like a second opinion, Doc Simmons. What does Dr JamesK think?
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 4:01 pm
JC needs to quit the Crestor, and instead get dessicated thyroid hormone, and filter the fluoride out of his water.
Cholesterol levels go high if there is not enough of a hormone. Since hormones are manufactured out of cholesterol, when the body figures that it has a hormone deficiency it raises cholesterol levels. More than likely the hormone in question is Thyroid hormone. So you get rid of the Crestor, get rid of the fluoride and start taking, and this is important, NON-SYNTHETIC thyroid hormone. Synthetic thyroid hormone is yet another money-making racket.
Under this treatment cholesterol levels will go down a little, and people who take desiccated thyroid hormone have half the rates of cancer, and almost never have heart problems.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 4:05 pm
Doc
Are JC’s chemical imbalances to blame for his politically unreliable views or is that something intrinsic to him?
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 4:09 pm
“WHat’s your view on vaccinations for kiddies, Doc?”
We have to distinguish between vaccinations as a concept, and vaccinations as a racket. Vaccination may be okay as a concept. But take a look at what these lunatics put into these formulations! Plus they cover up the history of the outbreaks in disease that vaccinations have cause. The autism cover-up is just the latest manifestation of this long history of shame.
Just take a look at the actual specs of the vaccines that they want to shoot into your kids. Formaldehyde. Mercury. Aluminium. Various allegedly dead bacteria, that aren’t necessarily related to the disease being prevented.
Yeah it would be better if you gave the kids the bug-zapper. Note that anyone who has had cancer, and has been struck by lightning, and survived, has had his cancer cured. Also it has been noted that “I never saw an unvaccinated man who had cancer.” Which may not be the death-note to the entire concept of vaccination. But you cannot trust these idiots to make a safe vaccine. They are callous and unscientific.
I suggest you would be mad to let your kids be vaccinated. But you need to look for alternatives.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 4:12 pm
Trust Doc Simmons to be a Statin denialist.
I’m offended. My body is in perfect harmony with its chemical composition.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 4:16 pm
Hey James,Health Minster Bird is cutting you out of an income.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 4:20 pm
“Doc
Are JC’s chemical imbalances to blame for his politically unreliable views or is that something intrinsic to him?”
I cannot talk about the depredations of the person you speak of. But Crestor makes you stupid, and then you take more Crestor on account of that stupidity. This is a winning money-making formula. The victim is locked in by this impenetrable circularity.
Look at the facts.
Fact 1: The brain has more cholesterol than any other organ.
Fact 2: “Crestor® is in a class of drugs called statins, which work by stopping an enzyme called HMG-CoA reductase from making cholesterol. ”
Fact3:
“One of the side effects of Crestor® is Rhabdomyolysis and occurs when a large number of skeletal muscle cells die. The death of the skeletal muscle cells results in the release of a massive amount of muscle protein into the bloodstream.
So you are going to have this dead muscle protein going through your brain, which isn’t going to be good for your brain or your immune system. And you’ve got this process killing the production of cholesterol in the brain. On this very thread we have personal testimony to the damage these drugs are doing to people who are known to the writers here.
Get rid of the statins. Bring in the Lugols solution and desiccated thyroid hormone.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 4:21 pm
Your devotion to philosophical approaches that have been discarded by thinkers for a century or two indicate a mind out of its appropriate era.
sfb, wrong again. Firstly, the contemporary interest in Oakeshott has never been so good. Secondly, and you probably had this in your sights to begin with, my recent interest in Aquinas and Aristotelian-Thomism is also experiencing something of a revival, and from unexpected quarters. Interesting times.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 4:26 pm
Um yeah, because when you got the jab for smallpox, you didn’t want cowpox, you wanted smallpox.
.
18 Apr 12 at 4:27 pm
LOL
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 4:29 pm
I just got an email invitation from Together Queensland* to attend a meeting to “have your say on your wages and conditions for the next three years”
Great! I thought. But I am not a member, but surely I can attend as there has been no other avenue allowed to engage in enterprise bargaining except by the union in the Bligh/Beattie administration. I wonder if I can have my say?
So I look at who can attend: “Who? All staff are welcome to attend.”
Great! Then I read the next sentence:
“Together membership forms will be available for any non-members to join up on the day so you can have your say too”
*why the hell can’t these things be called what the are, in this case the Queensland Public Sector Union? Together Queensland sounds like some sort of social club for hand holding types, no doubt with strong, caring head tilts.
Entropy
18 Apr 12 at 4:29 pm
Birdie
I was wondering when you would finally make it to the doctoring science which is ripe for renewal.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 4:30 pm
‘Doctor Bird, I’ve been to every other doctor, but they say my cancer is incurable’.
‘Don’t worry son, just follow my instructions and you’ll be right as rain. Here, take this kite and go fly it the next time there’s heavy rain’.
jtfsoon
18 Apr 12 at 4:32 pm
Yeah true story about the lightning. All good leads to curing cancer are systematically demeaned, discarded, discredited, disparaged and dumped on. So here you have an idea that one method would be some sort of electrical treatments. Then there are oxidation treatments. Then there is trying to raise body pH. Then there is laetrile. Laetrile was targeted by the Rockefeller monopoly in 1963, in their war on quackery. They also started arresting herbalists. Shaking down old ladies, in para-military raids.
What happened is that in 1962 the Congress passed a law to say that these drugs had to be withdrawn from the public if they couldn’t be shown to be effective. So because the drugs were basically a fleecing racket, and could not be shown to be effective, a distraction needed to be created. Hence the 1963 war on quackery. Vitamins, herbs and particularly laetrile had to be targeted. Since laetrile had the potential to end the cancer money-making scam in its entirety.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 4:35 pm
Erm so what about EBC 46, Abiraterone, dendritic cell therapy, oncolytic virii, DCA, Alpharadin or ligand targeting?
You reckon these will be outlawed and have people put in prison?
.
18 Apr 12 at 4:45 pm
Jason that is not such a silly idea. Raising the body’s temperature is a way to fight off cancer. I don’t know if it means being struck by lightning will cure advanced, invasive, highly differentiated and metastic cancer.
.
18 Apr 12 at 4:47 pm
Wow
Bird thinks doctors will be round up and shot ala the Nazis if they don’t tow the line.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1643325/New-prostate-cancer-therapy-viable-option
8 HOURS AGO
A new prostate cancer treatment using high frequency sound waves may be a viable alternative to surgery and radiotherapy with less chance of incontinence or impotence, researchers say.
A clinical trial funded by Britain’s Medical Research Council examined the efficacy of a new treatment known as high-intensity focused ultrasound (HIFU), that can target areas just a few millimetres in size.
“The results … show that 12 months after treatment, none of the 41 men in the trial had incontinence of urine and just one in 10 suffered from poor erections – both common side effects of conventional treatment,” said a statement.
“The majority of men (95 per cent) were also cancer-free after a year.”
The findings were published in the journal Lancet Oncology.
Treatment involves radiotherapy or removing the prostate surgically – both methods that can damage surrounding healthy tissue, in some cases leading to incontinence or erectile dysfunction.
HIFU targets a small area affected by cancer – the sound waves causing the tissue to vibrate and heat up, killing the cancer cells.
The procedure is done under general anaesthetic and most patients are back home within 24 hours, said the statement.
.
18 Apr 12 at 4:50 pm
You do like your flimflamery. There is no problem with the materialist account of the mind. Consciousness is the way in which we experience the physical processes of the brain.
AJ
18 Apr 12 at 4:50 pm
A person dying of cancer would have a lot of trouble getting out of bed to find a storm to sit in and be struck by lightning.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 4:53 pm
See that was another treatment that looked promising but was crushed. Its not a new prostate cancer cure. Its an old cure. Every cell has a resonant frequency. But the cancer cell has a different resonant frequency than the healthy cell. So it is as the typing green square would have it. You can easily kill cancer cells with this method, which is why the method keeps getting buried every time it comes to the surface.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 4:53 pm
More from gay old England, this time a report of a remarkable official “pillorying” of 5 men who had run a gay house of ill repute in 1810:
Amazing stuff.
steve from brisbane
18 Apr 12 at 4:55 pm
Dr Frankenstein found a way Candy
Entropy
18 Apr 12 at 4:57 pm
Why bother with lightening just stick a finger in a power point
Jc
18 Apr 12 at 4:57 pm
Right well lightning isn’t anyones prescribed treatment. People seem to be having a hard time extrapolating from the lightning example. Cancer cells die if their environment is too high in pH. Actually mainstream quackery involves chemotherapy using substances that are usually alkaloids. But these dummies, instead of using alkaline substances of low toxicity (like baking soda, alkaline water, putting electrical energy into the blood and so forth) they poison the patient. When its the alkalinity of the substance that is likely doing the hard yards anyway. This is a massive scandal.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 4:58 pm
So this is what jealous women can do as what other reason do they have to care about some gay men.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 5:02 pm
What a coincidence. This is my planned punishment for the ALP.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 5:04 pm
Doc, I am of the belief that you could cure cancer through ketosis. Your thoughts?
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 5:08 pm
something a bit grim about flinging a dead cat at someone.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 5:08 pm
IT
Why do you want the women to do the dirty work? That is sexist.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 5:09 pm
Women have fought long and hard to do dirty work, Kelly.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 5:11 pm
something a bit grim about flinging a dead cat at someone.
It’s not so bad. Gillard has had a dead cat bounce once or twice in the polls.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 5:13 pm
I think I’d take the dead cat over the fermenting fish entrails.
The crowd itself, armed with all types of rotting and over-ripe material, must have stank from a mile away.
steve from brisbane
18 Apr 12 at 5:17 pm
IT
Well they obviously had the right 200 years ago. I can’t think of any job much worse than curing dead animal remains to throw at someone and it involved very high risk of injury through disease I imagine, no rubber gloves back then.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 5:17 pm
Steve
They would have killed the cat a few days earlier so it stunk a bit and possibly had maggots in it. I am sure they wouldn’t use a fresh cat.
I am just wondering about the potatoes as they would have been used for impact and fresh potatoes are much harder as old ones go rubbery.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 5:22 pm
You do like your flimflamery. There is no problem with the materialist account of the mind.
This is rich when materialist accounts of the mind are increasingly throwing concepts like intentionality into the proverbial ditch:
Consciousness is the way in which we experience the physical processes of the brain.
I see that, at the very least, Rosenberg is a little more clear-sighted about the consequences for consciousness given a “mechanistic account of the mind” that is identical to the “physical processes of the brain”.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 5:23 pm
Yes Infidel Tiger I think you are onto something there. I don’t know the specifics of ketone therapy. But the idea is to learn to get by with fats as your energy source and not sugars.
The reasoning goes like this…. Cancer cells like a low pH of about 6 or so. The amount of oxygen absorbed in water depends on two factors. Water temperature and water pH. Colder water can hold more oxygen, and water that is high pH can hold a lot of oxygen. Now the cancer cell is not anaerobic. It is “less-aerobic” putting it into the category of most of our bodies pathogens. The cancer cell needs to feed. But its very hard for the cancer cell to turn fat into energy. Because it requires a great deal of oxygen to turn fat into energy.
But supposing you are getting about with a lot of sugar in your diet? Well it requires very small amounts of oxygen to turn sugar into energy. So a sugar-based energy diet is going to have the cancer and other pathogens thriving. Simple chemistry of this sort seems to be ignored by the quacks.
I noticed that when I was concentrating on increasing body voltage, I could get a lot of energy from fat, and didn’t need that sugar-hit for energy as much as before. So the first step is trying to get your pH up, then try and get almost all your energy from fat, and almost none from sugar. This will make the cancer cells tired, and your own cells invigorated.
We need the facilities and methodologies that the organized crime families have monopolised in the medical industry. By monopolizing on these facilities the gangsters can continue the cancer myth. Since with the right facilities cancer is a very easy disease to beat. Already on this page we have maybe half a dozen promising leads on how to kill it. The idea is to apply all of the above.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 5:27 pm
Bird
Your brother is a doc right. What’s he say about your theories. Last time he wasn’t talking to you.
Jc
18 Apr 12 at 5:30 pm
I am male, and no chick. Perhaps you ought to look back into the clear logic of what I’ve written here, when you aren’t trying to grasp matters through a Crestor-induced haze. Wrinkle thee not thy pasty-white brow in a pathetic attempt to understand. Of course here I type in vain, since once you take Crestor you will become too stupid to ever stop. A direct attack on brain chemistry is what this Crestor is doing for you.
But supposing you were to stop taking the Crestor and rebuild your damaged brain. Get rid of the aluminium pots and pans, filter the fluoride and aluminium out of your water and so forth.
If you understand the un-assailable logic of what I say above then you might not be so dim-witted as to dismiss the right ideas that would improve your health and brain function.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 5:39 pm
And thus were the Catallaxy Files born.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 5:43 pm
Regarding another pillorying account, we get this interesting aspect explained:
What a town…
steve from brisbane
18 Apr 12 at 5:44 pm
Aww, what a shame Fauxfacts losing…
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 5:51 pm
My boss’s wife has an advanced cancer women are subject to, and I gather they are off overseas soon to a clinic that tries things like temperature raising and whatever else.
I can only think of Steve McQueen and his alternative treatment efforts, but given their other options appear to be fast disappearing – I can sympathise with the desire of the two of them to seek every possible option for remission, no matter how improbable.
God forbid, but I guess you have to walk in their shoes before you understand why people go to such extraordinary lengths.
Myrrdin Seren
18 Apr 12 at 6:00 pm
Funny. I was thinking “m0nty at a buffet”
Oh come on
18 Apr 12 at 6:00 pm
Myriddin – Docrates?
.
18 Apr 12 at 6:02 pm
They’ve been in power five minutes and already the LNP Qld government is falling apart:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/lnp-staffer-quits-after-antifeminist-rant-20120418-1x6bs.html
LaRouchite
18 Apr 12 at 6:02 pm
Another really good post by Ben Pile and some great comments.
http://www.climate-resistance.org/2012/04/the-reformation-of-environmentalism-part-2.html
Myrrdin Seren
18 Apr 12 at 6:04 pm
“I can only think of Steve McQueen and his alternative treatment efforts, but given their other options appear to be fast disappearing – I can sympathise with the desire of the two of them to seek every possible option for remission, no matter how improbable.”
Steve McQueen alternative treatment was successful. He was doing well with laetrile, then he made the mistake of listening to his doctor and went under the knife. He died of complications on the operating table. I heard that earlier he had one of these deals where they give you a coffee enema. But in the end he hit upon a good treatment, and the quacks killed under operation. Probably by accident.
Your friend has many good options available to her. But its hard to cut through the lies when you are already sick.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 6:06 pm
In other hot LaRouchite news, McDonalds Corp is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy after a 16yo assistant manager of a McDonalds franchise in Bacchus Marsh was fired for preparing a Big Mac without wearing gloves.
Oh come on
18 Apr 12 at 6:06 pm
Speaking of cancer, LaRouche is back.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 6:06 pm
Thats ok cut them a bit of slack they had no power for 20 years. 20 of the LNP QLD members could be jailed and the seats lost to the ALP and there still wouldn’t be a problem.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:06 pm
Dot
Don’t think it is the folk you mention, but from a quick Googling, I am guessing it is something similar.
I try not to pry too deeply – they have handled the situation with courage and love – but those of us who know them are bracing for a hard landing.
Myrrdin Seren
18 Apr 12 at 6:07 pm
Exactly. All very well to criticise but unless and until you are in the same boat you’ll never know what you’ll do to save your life or your loved one’s life. That doesn’t mean you have to accept any old alternative quackery but there have been some advances in this area for some cancers, especially if you do the research and exclude the voodoo-hoodoo stuff. Germany seems to be leading in this area.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 6:09 pm
“Max Tomlinson, the then media adviser to Liberal National Party Senator Ian Macdonald”
Yeah – for a media advisor the guy sounds like a tactless douche, but as he works for Senator Ian Macdonald – I am not sure it is time to petition a recall election on the Newman state government ?
Myrrdin Seren
18 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
She could be getting better right away, just on the information on this page. If she started popping near toxic levels of vitamin C, and started chewing apricot seeds that would be enough to stay the situation, until she had time to put a more full spectrum strategy into place.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
And yet they told Finkelstein that she’s all good. What a load of bollocks. Wait til the paywall kicks in.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 6:14 pm
“That doesn’t mean you have to accept any old alternative quackery….”
But its the mainstream that is known for quackery. Dangerous quackery at that. Alternative quackery tends to be merely ineffective. Mainstream quackery is actively harmful. Alternative quackery is cheap. Mainstream quackery is wrecking whole economies through sucking up all the resources.
The idea is not to worry about whether its mainstream or alternative. The idea is to follow science. Which takes you as far from the mainstream as you can get.
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 6:17 pm
I reckon eventually the paying for content will be centralised as how it exists now you can’t chop and change. It would be like having cable and the only option is to watch Fox or only watch CNN, some people actually want a choice and not to pay much for it.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:20 pm
Delingpole’s Australian tour, Perth review:
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 6:23 pm
Yep like running up government debt.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:25 pm
The difference is that this is the Internet where there are a thousand free alternatives, many of which are not execrable in quality. Cable is a closed business, the Internet is not.
The maths are simple: News will convert 10% of subscriptions from paper to digital, and they’ll continue to lose the vast majority of their advertising revenue compared to the glory days of print. There’s no lifeline dangling off that cliff.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 6:29 pm
Stop messing with my mind. The watermelons and pineapples in Thailand is finished for the moment and now have to have more bloody watermelons. Puts me off eating watermelons. The Thai references refer to the military who supported the red or yellow shirts but green on the outside. Maybe Mk50 can at least show a little smile if he shows up.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:29 pm
I think Doucheballs is correct. Anyone fired for spelling that out should get a promotion and instead they fired him. That shows the new government is de-balled.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 6:29 pm
I still can’t believe he got the sack for saying that.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 6:33 pm
You might find it becomes a part of cable, telephony, internet. A very big change of model but still theoretically viable and yes revenues still likely to drop.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:34 pm
You’re a media analyst now Kelly?
JC
18 Apr 12 at 6:35 pm
If I have had enough beers I can be anything in my mind.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:36 pm
lol
Sometimes you remind me of one my colleague in Thailand.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 6:37 pm
I don’t know his name but one of the Drum people said that Austerity is being imposed. How on earth is saying you don’t have to pay all the debt back imposing something on a country?
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:45 pm
before you ask JC I am an international financial analyst.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 6:46 pm
But can you cook, Kelly, you know, something useful?
candy
18 Apr 12 at 6:55 pm
Of course I can. It really impresses the Asian ladies (in Asia) as they expect men can’t cook.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 7:02 pm
Coconut Oil and Alzheimers. Its so important to take control of your own health.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOR-Qd3QSg
Doc Simmons
18 Apr 12 at 7:04 pm
It does seem unlikely that an individual’s consciousness can exist without his/her physical brain. Sadly no one has successfully created an artificial consciousness. http://selfawaresystems.com/
Cory Olsen
18 Apr 12 at 7:04 pm
Yep, it’s bollocks.
.
18 Apr 12 at 7:22 pm
There are no rights in Australia, except ‘privileges’ granted to governments as and if they please:
Trademark Is a Privilege in Australia, Government Says.
What a dishonest creep…
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 7:52 pm
One day in a sleepy town in Belgium, a button appeared in the middle of the town square
Token
18 Apr 12 at 7:56 pm
granted BY governments
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 7:57 pm
Makes sense to me CL.
Now the givernment can ignore trademark and take away the IP of any company it deems impure, they can begin work on those motor vehicles which spew all that carbon in the name of the quixotic quest for carbon purity.
Token
18 Apr 12 at 7:59 pm
CL
I don’t know what your point is. The government does control what you can do.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 8:00 pm
I didn’t realise how deeply scarred and humiliated the Australian left was by Campbell Newman’s stunning and generational victory in Queensland – 6 seats: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! – until lefties started showing up here trying to tear down the new Premier.
Falling apart, hey Doucheball?
Do you remember the Hawke government?
Elected in 1983.
Do you remember David Combe and Valery Ivanov?
The Hope Royal Commission?
When did that blow up?
1983.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 8:04 pm
Appalling isn’t it. In a free society the citizens control what the government can do.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 8:13 pm
“A more realistic example would be the requirement that all fossil fuelled cars sold in Australia are required to be the same brown colour, the same one model and no badge displayed. Each car will display a warning sign: Warning this driver destroys the planet.”
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:13 pm
then they have the hide to complain that someone isn’t giving them computers and internet access.
You are not a worthy party!!!! you are trash that has been put out on the street!!! you deserve to be swept into the sewer of history where you belong!
Irving J
18 Apr 12 at 8:13 pm
whats your view on EURCAD then? I’m contemplating going short
Irving J
18 Apr 12 at 8:15 pm
Well it is the one and the same the majority do control who is in government but the elites do control what people think.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 8:16 pm
We have found someone with complete faith in a dictatorship.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 8:18 pm
So that’a why I’m broke!
And had I thought it was my now wealthy ex-s and various teams of lawyers including mine.
I wish I could be as unethical as Graeme.
‘Primum non nocere’ and the Hippocratic oath as so passé but I’m still rather old-fashioned.
JamesK
18 Apr 12 at 8:21 pm
Ann Althouse
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:23 pm
Jay Leno:
“President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama.”
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:25 pm
So what is Mr Transpency doing while he hides from justice in a British manor?
Assange interviews Hezbollah from TV station controlled by Russian Government
Token
18 Apr 12 at 8:26 pm
“Hippocratic oath so passé but I’m still rather old-fashioned.”
should hope so, or I will be afeared to go to the GP.
about the only “alternative” remedy I’ve across as effective is glucosamine for our dog’s arthritis and it really helps.
but doctors recommend glucosamine anyway don’t they JamesK? think its proven.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 8:28 pm
Trademark is definitely not a privilege granted by Government. Passing off originated as a common law tort.
.
18 Apr 12 at 8:29 pm
For OA – yes but I’m not a GP.
JamesK
18 Apr 12 at 8:31 pm
And then Harry Reid shut it down.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:32 pm
No we have found someone with complete understanding that there is nothing worth salvaging from the left. The entire notion of “progressive” ie regressive, which is a system of negative incentives, is utter stupidity. Maybe one day you too can awake to reality!
Irving J
18 Apr 12 at 8:33 pm
Gab
I know you hate what is happening in the Middle East/Afghanistan but do you really think we are improving things. The reason for the above quote is noting that the Taliban reversed their decision before we arrived. I am not having a go at you just letting you know how I think.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 8:34 pm
26 odd Dem senators up for re-election only 10 Republicans.
JamesK
18 Apr 12 at 8:35 pm
Kelly
The situation for women and girls has improved slightly since the allied forces have been in Afghanistan. But of course, once they leave things will just revert to how it was before.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:37 pm
Wish we had” The Borg
No, not the QLD one.
Jumpnmcar
18 Apr 12 at 8:38 pm
“For OA – yes but I’m not a GP”
Yes, OA, it’s been good for him but it just staves off things anyway that’s all, but it works for poochies,vet all good about it, just commenting on “natural” medicines.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 8:39 pm
Obama, in 1996:
In 2012:
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:46 pm
Lowering the sea levels? Childsplay.
Move over Jesus,
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 8:51 pm
Another brilliant column by VDH:
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 8:52 pm
One thread, two Kellys:
Followed by:
Yes we have, Kelly.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 8:57 pm
CL
Those quotes are 2 different things. One points out fact but in that fact there is democracy, the other points out the wishes of another commenter that QLD be a one party state.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:00 pm
Kelly, the people of Queensland have chosen one party rule by democratic means.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 9:06 pm
It is not a “fact” that “The government does control what you can do.”
The law and, ultimately, the people themselves decide what we can do.
Were than not so, the tobacco companies would not have been permitted to take the government to court.
So your two statements are contradictory.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 9:13 pm
IT
I may have voted LNP and will even join the party but I do not want no other parties.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
Who says judges have no sense of humour?
Reading the transcript of the 1st 2 days, the tobacco companies are stuffed.
The Court is saying the tobacco companys have not lost any property as they can still use their trademarks, albiet in a modified form.
The Govt having literally 95% of the packaging space is not different to requiring safety warnings on Ratsax.
wow!
pete m
18 Apr 12 at 9:17 pm
CL
Selling tobacco could be banned if the government chose that. Just as many drugs have become illegal.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:17 pm
.
As could owning a taxi, drinking XXXX til you fall off your chair and travelling to Thailand.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 9:21 pm
Wrong quote:
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 9:21 pm
Kelly, if the government can tell everyone what to do, what forces them to appear in the High Court?
It can’t be the government. They are the government.
It’s this sort of mindless, trivial discussion that ruins these threads. Your statement was silly and false. Stop trying to argue the toss. You were wrong.
Game over.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 9:22 pm
Have to say this blog moves a lot faster than Quiggins blog.
Alice
18 Apr 12 at 9:26 pm
This is so stupid. Retailers will soon carry plastic sleeves that will fit over plain packages. The sleeves will be the graven images of the old unadulterated packaging.
Wait until I unleash mini pipes on the market. Roxon will lose her shit as smoking becomes popular again.
.
18 Apr 12 at 9:27 pm
Ah Alice, you nutjob, how the hell are you?
.
18 Apr 12 at 9:27 pm
Political considerations as retrospective laws can actually be made. In the US case martial law can be declared by one man at any time there is nothing a court can legally do. Everything can be overuled using martial law but the constitution is there basically to make it difficult, again in political terms.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:36 pm
who the hell are u? Im good. Still here..
Yeah Im a nut job. I dont know what party I belong too.I hate em all. Just cant make up my mind.
Banned from Quiggers slow moving blog of idol worhsippers and overly interventionist style..this one is so damn fast I cant keep up with the train of thought.
Alice
18 Apr 12 at 9:38 pm
Dot De Low moves faster than Quiggin’s blog.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 9:39 pm
*groan* the ping-pong baby vid is bound to appear after that.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 9:41 pm
in my opinion plain packaging may prevent some kids from smoking or encourage some to give it up. it may be very small number but it’s worth trying, just for that reason.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 9:41 pm
I agree Candy and this is far less oppresive to smokers than what has already happened anyway.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:44 pm
Dr = knows his drugs
Alice
18 Apr 12 at 9:50 pm
No it can’t.
Yes there is.
Abraham Lincoln’s attempt to impose martial law, in concert with a suspension of habeus corpus throughout the United States, was struck down in Ex parte Milligan (1866).
Please desist from any further silliness.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
Alice
If you are refering to some comments above better you go and see a real doctor.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:52 pm
CL
What happened 150 years ago I don’t know but I do know that exactly what you have described regarding the habeus corpus bit has happened in the US right now. So now we get to the second question which is what if nobody objects? The NDAA was signed into law in a bi partisan manner so who will challenge it?
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 9:56 pm
The government may outlaw sugary treats next and then you’ll be banned, candy.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
The Ratsak analogy is pretty emotive, isn’t it?
The tobacco companies were never going to get away with the argument about the Government stealing their property, because it’s fundamentally not true. The mood of the court does seem to be that they’re going to strike a blow that will be heard around the world, like the Vics did all those years ago against Scientology.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
Kelly, you are as a drunk as an Irish wake. Please stop annoying everyone with your tenuous grasp of factuality and sobriety.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
The most underrated, under-appreciated comedic and human-interest link posted on a thread in the history of the internet.
————————————————-
Let’s say Kelly and Candy live near a primary school.
The Newman government makes it compulsory for them to completely festoon their houses with anti-smoking messages etc. This will discourage child smokers. They will heartily welcome the initiative, naturally.
How could they not? Are they OGRES?
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 10:00 pm
mOnty, when the goverment bans fantasy football on the grounds that it leads to chronic onanism and obesity, I will support your right to exist. Millions won’t, but I am a man of principle.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:04 pm
No. It is fundamentally true. There is a benefit. They don’t need to fund an equally effective anti smoking campaign.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:05 pm
God damn it. Michael Lynagh has had a stroke.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:05 pm
Tell me what rights the government has to use BAT’s trademarks, Dot. Surely if there was theft involved then the government would have gained an asset.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 10:07 pm
IT
Only annoying CL as JC isn’t here. Well the government can make that a requirement for the anti smoking messages but it would be political suicide but could be done slowly like they do with other regulations. I can’t remember the numbers but if our current legislation keeps expanding exponentially at the current rate it will take up the size of Brisbane in 2100 something like that.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:08 pm
Damn it – I reckon they can shove the brown paper packaging.
I like smoking and Im sick of people telling me what I can and cant do and Im perversely stubborn enough to ignore it all…and buy duty free cigs en mass.
I am sick of 40 per hour speed limits for hours on roads where kids NEVER cross the road to go to school when Im getting older and forget Im in a 40 zone and only drive 50 max anyway.
Im fed up with oppressive fines on young drivers for the most minor offences.
Im fed up with the government being in my face everywhere its unimportant and nitpicky and not around everywhere where it is important.
Brown paper packacking – oh dont we have anything more important to obsess about?
Alice
18 Apr 12 at 10:10 pm
Large advertising on private property attracts taxes that is if it is allowed at all. So they could just introduce a tax of $100 per square centimetre of advertising on products used for smoking. Imagination people the challenge is only a deterrant as the government can just make another law to have the same effect.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:12 pm
The economic value of not having to fund an equally successful anti smoking campaign.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:13 pm
Time to go and watch another episode of Game of Thrones, methinks.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 10:14 pm
Let’s say Kelly and Candy live near a primary school.
The Newman government makes it compulsory for them to completely festoon their houses with anti-smoking messages etc. This will discourage child smokers. They will heartily welcome the initiative, naturally.
How could they not? Are they OGRES?
Well, CL, they could ask me to put a up a picture of that handsome Mr Abbott is his blue polo with muscles bulging – yes! that would be nice.
candy
18 Apr 12 at 10:14 pm
Dot the authoritarian socialist now. So now it is a duty of the government to tell people what to do is it?
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:16 pm
…and smokers will buy replica plastic sleeves of the old unadulterated packaging.
They can’t ban advertising on private property. There is a confirmed implied right to political free speech and a contestable right to free speech.
How could they pass such a law on taxing “advertising” (packaging, actually) given the rules surrounding excise laws and uniformity of Commonwealth taxes?
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:16 pm
No. It is fundamentally true. There is a benefit.
I agree, even without the claim of a benefit. The government has summarily acquired the right to determine what can appear on a packet of cigarettes (which is different, again, from requiring warnings). By analogy, m0nty should find nothing wrong with the government dictating that all fantasy football websites should have exactly the same design and appearance.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 10:16 pm
You are one crazy arsehole.
The Government should do X but if you mention X costs $Y then you approve of it and X is obviously wrong?
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:17 pm
That’s pretty lame, Dot. By the same argument, the government should pay big pharma compensation for not having to fund public health costs of emphysema patients.
This is about trademarks.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 10:18 pm
So long as the tax is applied by the national government that is not a problem. but refering to section 92 you might want to think about how the carbon tax might contradict this.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:18 pm
Alice – you’re not who or thought you were. Or I hardly knew ye. Well said. The Government runs the military and law and order system, perhaps some infrastructure and maybe public health and welfare.
They don’t need to be in every part of your life.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
No Dot I am a socialist like everyone else here, you claim not to be.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
He could be Obama’s son:
Tyrone Dale David Woodfork.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 10:22 pm
No. How the hell is this analogous?
Yes…and the BENEFIT of acquisition = the alternative economic value.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:22 pm
The government doesn’t have any responsibility to compensate private companies for regulating products for safety reasons, Dot. Particularly not with reference to money saved on hands-off education campaigns as opposed to direct regulation. That’s ridiculous, there is no such trade-off to be made where the companies involved deserve compensation. Rent seeking at its worst, shame on you Dot.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 10:27 pm
If the government made fantasy football illegal tomorrow mOnty, what would your response be?
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:28 pm
No. You are wrong. There are very few socialists here. Why do you slur people like this?
wtf?
The States raise franchise fees (or have the right to and cannot be taxed by the Cth) and excise must be kept separate to “tax”. Do you really think you could legally just tax tobacco packaging? The rate applied to work would mess up other industries beyond comprehension.
I’m sceptical if taxing tobacco packaging only would be “uniform throughout the Commonwealth”.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:29 pm
If participating in fantasy football according to the instructions gave you emphysema, cancer and many other fatal diseases, I would hardly be surprised.
m0nty
18 Apr 12 at 10:31 pm
Yes okay.
There is no rent seeking. They can directly regulate all they like, except that they cannot compulsorily acquire property if the Commonwealth receives a benefit.
I am arguing the Commonwealth receives a benefit. Are you seriously trying to argue that branding has non value? No one is arguing for compensation. They are arguing the Government should cease and desist because no compensation has been offered.
It is not rent seeking, it is an application of the just compensation clause.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:33 pm
I got an LNP junk mail brochure for the Brisabne City Council Elections today. It says “Roads, Rates, Rubbish”
I haven’t seen an ALP flyer yet. The are probably saving their dosh for the federal election, and in any case our little ward is about 90% liberal.
So I went searching for the campaign slogan, and have had to give up.literally. All I could find was the ALP lord mayor candidate planning on bringing Bollywood to Brisbane.
Hmm, who will do best for Brisbane ratepayers?
entropy
18 Apr 12 at 10:34 pm
Alice: people from Europe – the most over-regulated socialist dominion on the planet – can’t believe how over-regulated Australia is when they visit. Not even the politicians are in charge in Australia: the place is being run on remote control by a self-appointed totalitarian middle class thought police – in the public service, on school committees, in academia. Talk to young people: it’s one of the main reasons they cite for why they travel to Bali and Thailand. Going overseas means acquiring personal freedom and leaving behind a suffocating world of regulations. We’re so frickin “laid back” (read: controllable) that we keep not pushing back. I think that the return of a conservative national government will trigger a backlash against the cumulative creep of regulation. And a lot of the backlash will be against the Liberal Party, which is only slightly less a socialist party than the ALP.
Tom
18 Apr 12 at 10:35 pm
Recent studies have shown that fantasy football causes chronic onanism, obesity and myopia. The government is considering banning you from advertising your business, removing your sites name and will be making you present your site in plain text*. They will however continue to accept massive sin taxes on fantasy football players and site operators. How do you respond?
*This will probably look better.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 10:36 pm
Do you often hallucinate?
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 10:37 pm
What?
Amazon is looking for a local what house?
Oh, warehouse.
As you were.
kae
18 Apr 12 at 10:37 pm
If this is the case then I am not so tell people to stop slurring me. We are all socialists if that means transfer of wealth to help the most needy.
Excise can be put on packaging why not, it is no different to the tobacco itself. It is all only technical anyway and can just write laws until it passes like the suggestion to change the immigration act so people can be sent to Malaysia.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:37 pm
Even Israel now admits that Iran did not threaten to wipe Israel off the map:
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 10:38 pm
SA
You finally looked at my link?
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:41 pm
Sorry, I must have missed it before as I’ve been in and out all day.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 10:43 pm
Hockey says ‘age of entitlement’ over, so why exactly do we use irrelevant Americanisms?
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 10:44 pm
Hockey is right
and good Tony asked about that bloody baby bonus.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:45 pm
… but of course he won’t name what entitlements (for fear of losing the next election, no doubt).
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 10:46 pm
You know if you’ve got an agenda that you won’t announce then you should just shut up, Mr Hockey.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 10:47 pm
SA
In total agreement. What about the Nanny Nanny state lol.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:48 pm
Seriously I don’t know why Roxon didn’t just jack up the tobacco excise to cover for Swan’s malfeasance. Milne would have voted for it.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:49 pm
Hockey even admitting entitlement vote buying, this is good stuff.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
No. They can’t just keep on writing laws. There are several explicit and implied constitutional rights. Furthermore, the Commonwealth has only limited heads of power unless referral is made. If they are just adding more excise they could just up the excise rate.
.
18 Apr 12 at 10:54 pm
Dot watch hockey on lateline
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 10:56 pm
Oh good. Samson’s back. Also, it’s National Stalking Awareness Day.
So there ya go.
sdog
18 Apr 12 at 10:58 pm
Dot
One of the reasons the poodles sitting on the high court found against the Malaysian solution was that it contravened international treaties Australia is a signatory to.
There is trade mark protection under the WTO so how can the poodles possibly avoid that one?
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:00 pm
No.
.
18 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
If participating in fantasy football according to the instructions
gave[may give] you emphysema, cancer and many other fatal diseases, I would hardly be surprised.FTFY. This will be the same rationale for extending just this type of intervention into other areas of our life, and it will be deployed against products that are high in sugar, carbohydrates, fat, cholesterol, and the like.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 11:02 pm
Of consciousness?
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:03 pm
External affairs power bites back!
.
18 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
Hockey gave Europe a ‘good talking to’.
I wonder if he’s heard that their economy dwarfs ours, and that Germany is still the world’s industrial powerhouse.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
You don’t have to be out of it, IT, to read your posts but it helps.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:06 pm
Excited much Blob?
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:07 pm
Jack The Insider ridicules and totally destroys plain packaging wowser crackdown (supported by the usual leftist morals campaigners)… note the big fat stupid lie at the centre of it all.
Smoking For Freedom.
Much more, RTWT.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
The government doesn’t have any responsibility to compensate private companies for regulating products for safety reasons, Dot.
Yes okay.
Gee, you too readily capitulated, dot, and it was unwarranted. Plain packaging is not a safety regulation, it certainly doesn’t improve the ‘safety’ of the product when used.
dover_beach
18 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
Hockey always excites me as he’s a poster boy for multiculturalism.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
Yea you were far more animated than I’ve seen you. I thought it may have been that you forgot to take you blood pressure medication, so it’s good to see it was only because the big boy was TV.
Hey Bob, wifey keeps suggesting we spend a week at that Whale beach hotel. You know if it’s any good? It’s called Jonah’s I think… as in whale I guess.
Serious, question.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:14 pm
How did you work that one out?
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
So air brushing pubic hair from naturist magazines was a violation of property rights?
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
IrvingJ
That’s my old friend, Dennis Gartman suggesting that Idea. I’ve known Dennis forever. Sounds ok. But I have the straight long US dollar against Euro on. Finally, it’s breaking down tonight. It’s given me a lot of heartache this week. There’s a pretty decent double top at around 1.3160ish on the charts and I have my stop on there. I also added to my position this afternoon when it started to break down.
I don’t like the Cad because it has a commodity play in the currency and I really don’t much care for commds at the moment.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:19 pm
Oh they’ll invent some bullshit, don’t worry about that.
The High Court should never have been based in Canberra. I’d base it in Darwin or Townsville or Bunbury. Some place where they have no sense of membership in the mandarin class. The inclination of this court is to protect the power of the state. Only one other demographic is higher than the state on its hierarchy of audiences. That being luvvies. Big Baccy is evil and they’ll see to it that the ‘correct’ judgement is delivered.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:19 pm
Joe was born in Bethlehem, like Christ, and his real name is Hokeidonian.
Unlike Christ, however, he’s had enough of that loaves and fishes style entitlement programme.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:20 pm
You must be a baby, CL, as you’ve never heard of Barwick.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:21 pm
Even more good polling news for Team Romney.
CBS/NYT poll shows dead heat between Obama, Romney at 46%
Alex Pundit
18 Apr 12 at 11:21 pm
Bob
Focus.. Jonah’s. What’s it like. Stop worrying about Big boy.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:22 pm
Ah, the manic Samson is a Dr Snipper too. What the dishonest jerk left out, in addition to a link:
And he also said
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:23 pm
SA
Joe was born in exotic North Sydney according to my quick research that was his dad being born in Bethlehem.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Fellas, let just say, that I think Romney is going to win this thing. I have for a while. He’s going to beat the Kenyan and it won’t even be close.
Americans have been turned off by the Kenyan as he’s basically lied and done similar sort of shit as our version.. the Lying Slapper.
And Alex that still leaves the undecided which will break Romney’s way.
I’ve said it here and I’ll say it again. Romney will take NY.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:26 pm
IT, I saw that article about Lynagh and I’m shocked. Get well soon Noddy you champion.
tbh
18 Apr 12 at 11:26 pm
Yes, and where does house fires caused by the government’s pink batts sit on the blazing totem pole I wonder.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:27 pm
I agreed this on its own was not a case for compensation. If I capitulated, minty should lay off donuts.
.
18 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
You can still get $2.85 on Romney being President.
That’s amazing value.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
Romney has also gone conservative these days and he may even start liking it.
No comments from you CL, thank you very much.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
That means Romney is at least five points in front.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
JC, if you go over to RCP right now and look to the right (not that it really matters because I agree with the first half of your post) a Marist Poll has Obama up 22 over Romney in NY. It won’t mean squat, because yes, Romney is going to win in the general, but I’m not that cocky about NY, yet.
Alex Pundit
18 Apr 12 at 11:29 pm
Yes, but the propaganda line that Iran threatened to eliminate Israel is and was wrong, a lie, and one that has been defended noisily on this blog.
Israel thinks Palestine is illiegitimate, it has and does steal Palestinian land, it refuses to acknowledge its existence as a state and punishes them for being recognised by UNESCO.
The only real difference is that Israel has achieved its goal of wiping out the Palestinians. Deir Yassin was not an event; it was a programme.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:30 pm
$3.10 on Betfair.
$2.8m has been matched.
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:31 pm
Shut up Samson. You’re a know-nothing attention-seeking dissembling boring old fool.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:31 pm
Just admit you lied and quote doctored.
.
18 Apr 12 at 11:32 pm
Yes, the father was born in Palestine and probably fled there given that the British were about to enact yet another colonial folly.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:33 pm
Gab
I gave the link yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rb7pemOiO2s#! Here it is again. Go to 5 minutes for the Iran did not say wipe Iran off map.
Anybody who still claims Armedinejad said this is in dissagreement with Isreali deputy prime minister and same if you dissagree that there is no evidence of Iran currently building a nuclear weapon.
Should you be concerned about Israel it does not help your cause if you can’t agree with authorities.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:34 pm
I doctored nothing. I quoted the phrase that refuted the lie. This may upset you, but you need to handle the truth.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
Bob, what’s the largest amount of Chinese you’ve eaten at the tax payers expense?
Infidel Tiger
18 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
Heh. Women’s war on Obama.
h/t Insty.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:39 pm
IT
I’m long up to the gills in stocks. I’m not a betting man however, believe it or not. I rarely take those raw bets on gambling markets, but i might take a bet on Romney here.
I don’t understand this though as there’s a ton of money to be made.
If I was a big time hedge fund manager, I would first go out and buy very large volatility stocks (high beta) that move much more than the actual index average.
I would then go out and smack the shit out of the Romeny offer and take it down to the Kenyan’s odds.
It would take perhaps $10 million to 20 million to smack those odds down in the betting markets as they are relatively small.
Once the stock markets caught a whiff of a major shift like that in the betting market, they would zoom stocks much higher.
There’s a pile of fucking serious money ready to be made by a big hedge fund fucking around with those oods and pre-setting in the stock and futures markets.
I reckon you will see a major shift in there soon and it will be sudden as one of those fuckers will do this.
It’s a pity I don’t have the size money to do it as I would.
Hit the odds right down total cost say 20 million.
Earn 7% on a $2 billion leveraged stock position.
Make 140 million -lose 20 million = net $120 million for a few days work. Minimum.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:39 pm
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman wants to nuke the Palestinians out of existence, and he can make good his threat as they have several hundred nukes.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:40 pm
Listen, you clueless, dishonest imbecile, try doing some basic research before making a fool of yourself. It wasn’t a “propaganda line” and it wasn’t a “lie.”
Do you know where it came from?
Have a fucking guess:
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:41 pm
Yes you did. This is an outrageous lie, but you have no shame.
.
18 Apr 12 at 11:41 pm
Yes and it would take perhaps $20 million to smack the odds down in all markets. It would take less then that, as that $2.8 million has taken ages to accumulate. I’m talking about smacking it down in say 48 hours.
The press would see that, or the big funds could spin the news to say that is good for the stock market and it would be off to the races.
I’m betting one of those huge fuckers is going to put on this play over the next few days.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
SA
That sounds like a lie as a nuclear weapon does not discriminate.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
It’s not true, but it’s funny, Larry Pickering.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
No. I quoted what refuted the lie and the rest of the statements don’t materially alter the fact that Iran never stated that it wanted to destroy Israel.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:44 pm
Got that, dickhead?
Iran officially published the threat.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
Samson, you lied and quote doctored. Just apologise and go to bed. You’re of no further use here.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
Not a lie, but obviously not an intention that could be realistically executed.
Lieberman is an outrageous racist and prone to rash statements.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:47 pm
SA
So what? I have posted the link again and saying something stupid after you were correct why do you think nobody trusts you.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:48 pm
I know Alex, it’s a big fucking call. However Romney is the typical Republican NY likes and I’m thinking that likely dem voters in the city are going to stay this one out while the burbs and upstate goes Romney.
The burbs and Upstate aren’t laydown dems, you know.
Fuckers haven’t thought of this one.
We never saw poltical advertising in the NY markets because it was always going Dem and both sides saved their money.
If the Kenyan starts spending money in NY and Romney twigs to this and he does too, the Kenyan is in trouble in NY.
Yes, big call I know.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:48 pm
Lol..he deserves a good smacking over the head.
Medics.. Jew hate alert. Bob’s gone funny again.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:50 pm
KL
‘saying something stupid after you were correct’
Don’t know what something refers to here?
Nobody trusts anyone around here were not friends, or am I missing something?
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:51 pm
Didn’t happen according to the Whale Beach pickle. Now who to believe?
Lazlo
18 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
Soon is right.
We need public flogging for some offences.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
CL
An editors title has nothing to do with what Armendinejad said?
Please believe the Israeli Deputy PM.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:53 pm
BTW There never was a state of Palestine until the PLO made it up. But Bob and the Ministry of Truth will take care of that inconvenient fact.
Lazlo
18 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
Lieberman says he wants to nuke Palestinians out of existence, but more realistically he’s trying to deprive Palestinian Israelis of their citizenship and that is racist.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
And castration for Obama’s would-be son who sexually assaulted an 85-yo woman.
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:55 pm
SA
Your quoted statement is confirmed on the link I provided.
kelly liddle
18 Apr 12 at 11:55 pm
There wasn’t a state of Israel till the Zionists made it up.
There wasn’t a colony of NSW till the British made it up.
States are made up, but we only notice this for recent inventions.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
KL.
OK
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:57 pm
Okay, prove he said it blob.
JC
18 Apr 12 at 11:57 pm
You didn’t look at the
vid I posted, did you Kelly?
Gab
18 Apr 12 at 11:58 pm
Michelle Obama is on Lieberman looking very fetching and talkin about the dog, of course, and that’s not the husband.
Samson Agonistes
18 Apr 12 at 11:58 pm
Poor little moppet. Judging by that picture I think they’re Asian. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a race-based attack. The two teens should be flogged.
C.L.
18 Apr 12 at 11:59 pm
The Israel thing is emotional for many people including some here. To exagerate things on both sides of the argument will not help. Both sides put out a very large amount of propagander.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
The only one emotional is your friend Samson, Kelly. He’s about to go all Krakatoa on us.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
Gab
I did and I would prefer to believe the Israeli Deputy PM and your video contradicted this. Once I see clear evidence of propagander or inaccuracies I ignore.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
lol Kelly so you see A actually saying “death to Israel” and you don’t want to believe it.
You’re crazier than a drunk squirrel.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
Its rare day when the Israeli Deputy PM comes to your assistance.
No Western media outlet would dare pursue such a line of questioning.
Al Jazeera and RT are entirely useful when they’re not talking about themselves.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:07 am
Kelly:
These are basically saying the same things, you fucking loon. You really are mentally oxygen deprived.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
Australia – land of rugged individualists…
Queensland Rail bans shorts. They’re dangerous.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:12 am
Palestine does not exist and it was removed by Israeli military action.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:13 am
lol climate change caused Salem witch trials.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:13 am
Bob,
Seriously, just fuck off, you fat useless blob. Stop pasting the site with your crap.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:14 am
Gab
Now I remember the context and the death to whoever. Iran was called an axis of evil country a few years before (the vid does not have a date) and as such the reaction is not that much. What sort of a situation do you think will be created when an outside power threatens your country. The US is a prime example of this.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:15 am
So you agree that Palestine is a relative and recent construct Bob, thanks.
Would you also agree that the Mad Mullahs of Iran would be happy to see a holocaust, since it would herald the return of the Mahdi?
How do you feel being part of a global leftist campaign to delegitimise Israel and the jews, in a way not seen in the last 70 years?
Perhaps you believe in this stigmatisation, and/or is it just a manifestation of your newly renewed quaffing at the trough to support your UN-facing master?
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 12:18 am
Except he didn’t. I Googled your (unprovided) link to the Guardian and found that you’d airbrushed two of just three paragraphs devoted to Meridor’s remarks (which were not even what the story was about).
The Guardan fails to disclose that the remarks were officially published by Iran.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:18 am
‘Critics of the state of Israel’ (code for anti-semites) in the news:
Flytilla activists scrawl swastika at Israel airport.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:21 am
Lazio,
And Israel is a recent construct too.
CL,
Did you listen to the broadcast KL provided?
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:21 am
Occured at Sunnybank Plaza which doesn’t surprise me.
I lived at Runcorn for awhile a few years ago.
Just awful, there’s definately something very rotten in the Runcorn / Eight Mile Plains / Sunnybank triangle.
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
I’d already posted that but it made no difference to the two defenders of Iran chuckleheads, CL.
——————————————-
From Hot Air:
Vid
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
Kelly: does your propagander live with your propagoose?
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
Code for anti-semites or self-hating Jews is the exact propaganda line you’re supposed to use CL.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:23 am
If the US “threatened” Australia, I would not expect the PM to make statements about wiping New Zealand off the map in response.
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 12:24 am
Speaking of Obama’s dog, is it safe?
This is the question that appears to be of concern to Jim Hoft.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:27 am
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:27 am
Well, that puts things in an entirely different light then. How could we have misrepresented the Iranian leadership so badly. My hands are wringing.
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 12:29 am
I’m sure Obama eats pussy too, but Romney looks a bit too uptight?
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:29 am
JC
It doesn’t matter if something basically says the same thing but is always used to inflame. What matters more is things that are clearly incorrect like real evidence that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. If words are not important then just use proper quotes.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:31 am
The one state solution is the only solution.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:32 am
That would be akin to white supremacists hanging nooses from the beams of the Underground Railroad museum in the States.
sdog
19 Apr 12 at 12:33 am
You’re an international statecraft analyst now Kelly?
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:34 am
Simpson,
Tell that to Moses, David, Soloman et al..
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
No it’s not. fuck off Bob.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
2stix
The US is the example not Australia. Military size of next ten militaries or 50 times ours. Scared of small countries on other side of planet. Rhetoric of attacking countries all the time. Actual attacks often.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
You know if you’re going to quote something then try a reputable source, rather than these bizarre little right wing conventicles that you frequent.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
Lots of cat food to go around in a Mormon family..
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 12:38 am
Despicable but typical of these progressive activists, Spot.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:39 am
And the “wry letter of welcome to Israel”
lol nice touch at the end.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:40 am
JC
You already know my position about what will happen in Israel. It is actually a very optimistic view. Think of South Africa, Britain and Ireland, US from slaves to president in around 150 years. Things do change even if they might seem unlikely at the time. There is good evidence that the Palestinians and Israeli’s will live in peace one day. Both sides are softening but it is a very slow process.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:42 am
We don’t have a video of them scrawling anything, but we do have a video of an Israeli soldier clubbing a peaceful individual with his gun.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:42 am
Erm you were trying to get us to empathise with Iran. Which I did for you, and then like a goldfish you forgot that you asked “What sort of a situation do you think will be created when an outside power threatens your country. ”
And I replied we probably would start threatening New Zealand.
Anyway, you do realise that Iran isn’t a particularly benign country don’t you?
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 12:43 am
*And I replied we probably would not start threatening New Zealand.
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 12:43 am
Yea right kelly.
Iran is not attempting to access nuke weapons according you you and that perpetual taxeating scum, Bob from Whale Beach.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:44 am
There will never be any peace in the Middle East as Israel is basically building a wall around what it wants to own and it will then expel Palestinian Israelis to the bantustans that will be Israeli-dominated prison camps where nothing flourshes, as is Gaza today.
This is what Israeli policy intends and there are countless documents to show it.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 12:46 am
Call me someone who is surprised.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131290/Revealed-Official-fears-U-S-UK-President-Obamas-anti-American-anti-white-father.html#ixzz1sP5W7vPf
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:49 am
JC
They may or may not want to build a weapn, Australia may or may not want a nuclear weapon. All I said is there is no evidence only suspicion and that is fact unless you think can’t trust Deputy PM or IAEA.
2stix
The US is scared that is why they have such a large military because some countries say mean things. Iran has not attacked anyone for the last 200 years so externally they can be considered benign. If you want to talk about Hamas or Hezbollah well the US supports them also money is fungible so what is your point.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:51 am
They lived in the State of Israel did they?
Even Solo Man and his mate Al?
Fascinating. Yesterday we learned that the Nazis believed that morality is a malleable thing, and different cultures ought to be allowed to have their own ways of living without fear of judgement.
Today we learn that the State of Israel was not created by the UN in the aftermath of WWII, but has thrived without contest since the days of some dude whose very existence is doubtful, and furthermore was a popular location for extreme whitewater rafting in the early 1980s.
Thank you Sir Bedevere.
FDB
19 Apr 12 at 12:51 am
You do realise Gaza has two borders don’t you?
And now that the glorious Arab Spring has fulfilled it’s promise in Egypt surely the most enlightened new leftist approved Egyption leaders will welcome and aid the downtrodden Palestinians post-haste.
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 12:53 am
As if the existence of a video of people painting swastikas matters.
He hit him in the face once, hardly a “clubbing”. And Israel’s response:
Bob only ever tells half the story.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:54 am
FDB
Dickhead, if you imply you want to impose any standards on Jews because of the time they have existed as a modern state in the middle East, I suggest you pack you fucking rutsack and go join your gal in the UK on a one way fucking ticket, you clown.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 12:55 am
This week Sam has defended female genital mutilation and killing all the Jews.
Say hello to the contemporary left.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:57 am
Very good Gab, thanks for the post.
BTW Back in the late 90s I went as part of a trade mission to Israel. We landed at Ben Gurion at a time that Saddam was threatening to send Scuds full of Anthrax in our direction. The Head of Mission, a Cabinet Minister, was taken off the plane in Bangkok. We were told at a meeting with the Oz Ambassador the following morning in Tel Aviv that all essential embassy staff had been evacuated to Cyprus and that the only remaining full body suits were reserved for those embassy staff that remained (a bit of a Titanic moment). My dear wife had insisted that I take some masking tape for the windows.
The Isaelis were very welcoming and appreciative of our being there at that very tense time.
However, when we landed at Ben Gurion and went to the car park for our lifts into town, one of our crew left a full suitcase on the ground in the carpark by mistake. We merrily progressed to town, about 45 minutes, and then said crew member remembered the lost bag. He was taken back to Ben Gurion, where the case was still sitting there. It could have been an anthrax bomb, but no fabled Israeli security picked it up.
Israel is a seriously whacky, organised but disorganised place.
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 12:57 am
I don’t believe that suitcase would be left unattended today as it was back in the late ’90s, Laz. Things have changed, but I liked your story.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:00 am
Wait until tomorrow and I’m sure whacko Bob will have something else in store. He’s an old jew hater from way back it seems.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 1:01 am
The welcoming arms of Egyptions to their Palestinian Brothers…hold on…is that an Egyption wall on the Gaza / Egypt border!?
Good heavens, outrageous.
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 1:01 am
Unlike Obama, I think it’s safe to say Romney doesn’t eat cock.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 1:03 am
Oh well then, if you say so nutcase!
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 1:03 am
I’ve never seen so much concern by fat middle aged men for the female clitoris in my life!
Le me state clearly, I enjoy the female clitoris and long live the foreskin!
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:05 am
So you dispute the Old Testament. OK, what is your evidence?
The Israel of David and Soloman was a state in any sense that we would now define it. Disagree?
There was a diaspora due to the Romans. Disagree?
Jews have long established ethnic roots in Israel. Disagree?
What is your point?
Lazlo
19 Apr 12 at 1:05 am
2 wrongs will not make a right.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 1:05 am
You know, the way these Lefties defend Iran and Palestine you’d think they actually want Israel wiped off the face of the earth.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:06 am
Everyone thought Iran was going to kill the Jews, JC, but Israel’s Deputy PM set that myth to rest.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:07 am
No he didn’t, you’re lying Bob. He said things that were the oppisite of your lies.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
Hirsi Ali admits to lying and recommends it highly:
In other words, judge refugees as if they were bona fide immigrants.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:10 am
And no one believed the Germans would kill the jews.
—————————–
Yes, Bob..err…”Samson” you have made it very clear you believe Hirsi Ali is lying.
The only lying occurring today is from you, you smelly outhouse rat.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:13 am
I assume I am included in this statement at the moment so I will respond. There is very little to defend Iran from as they haven’t done anything externally it is only words. So far as the way Israel/Palestine is, it is bad for all concerned and saying they will unite one day is good I thought. If you do not believe this then what do you think will happen eventually?
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 1:17 am
I’m equally sure he doesn’t look for any reciprocation.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:22 am
Hitler only adopted extermination after the Wannsee Conference in January 1942, but I’m pretty sure no one was any doubt that he wanted to force the Jews out of Germany.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:24 am
Of course you are, you dick.
Who do you think is arming Hamas and Hezbollah with rockets and stuff, you red neck?
JC
19 Apr 12 at 1:25 am
Kelly:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/world/middleeast/israeli-embassy-officials-attacked-in-india-and-georgia.html?pagewanted=all
Havent done anything…?
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 1:25 am
Bob’s channeling Homer now I see.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 1:25 am
Well, actually, the Reich Chancellery meeting of December 1941 seems the more crucial, although less documented, meeting.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:28 am
Khamenei acknowledges active support for Hizbollah and Palestinian military actions against Israel:
http://news.yahoo.com/khamenei-iran-aid-anyone-confronting-israel-100820865.html
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 1:30 am
Abu, If you had been listening you would have heard that the nyt is too left to be trusted.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:31 am
So, Samson, you can no longer claim to be Eyeless in Gaza at the mill with slaves.
You have been freed from your ignorance and can stop peddling leftist totalitarian propaganda. Okay, Bob?
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 1:32 am
Holy shit Bob Ellis’s blog reads like the lunatic rantings of a madman. He positively makes this Bird characters Blog look rational.
He also spends a disturbing amount of time (three massive posts bob?) apologising for Mel Gibsons anti Jew rants.
There’s also a love affair with Bob Brown that would go better left unsaid.
Finally:
The left so often tells us that Israeli’s and Jews are different. That when they rant and rave about how much they hate “Israeli’s” and “Zionists” they don’t mean Jews.
They lie.
(I cannot believe that this nutcase writes speeches for Labor politicians.)
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 1:33 am
Yes, Abu, Israel has invaded Lebanon twice.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 1:34 am
Well the neighbours people in Egypt and possibly other neighbours. How is the money arranged I don’t know the answer to that question but I expect some aid money is diverted by the leaders.
Maybe some of this does get diverted the very basic rockets would not cost all that much.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 1:35 am
It has always interested me how the contemporary left behaves when their dreams crash and burn.
Bligh, ‘climate change,’ soon Gillard, soon Obama, the ‘stimulus,’ the Occupy rape movement… it’s all coming down in rubble and flames.
So who do they attack?
The Jews, of course.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:38 am
I can.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:39 am
Oh that would explain the Iranian-sponsored attacks on diplomatic missions and Jewish cultural centers. Thanks, Bob. I’m with ya.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 1:41 am
So far as the way Israel/Palestine is, it is bad for all concerned and saying they will unite one day is good I thought. If you do not believe this then what do you think will happen eventually?
I would like someone to answer my question.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 1:42 am
So can I
JC
19 Apr 12 at 1:42 am
Iran’s proxy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_military_activities
That’s pretty fair. Go to the citations and google for more, children of the left.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 1:50 am
Good night Abu,JC,Gab,CL and SA. Thanks for the “robust” chat. Still would like to know what the long term outlook is and or your solutions according to all your opinions as that interests me more than the tit for tat stuff.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 1:56 am
Kelly: long term forecast is more of the same.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 2:01 am
Thanks Abu but hope you are wrong.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 2:03 am
I am never wrong. Ask Samson.
Samson, name 20 times I have ever been wrong. Go.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 2:19 am
Okay, just ten. Name ten times I have ever been wrong.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 2:20 am
Just three. I challenge you. Go!
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 2:21 am
Bob’s made 105 comments on this thread.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 2:23 am
One. Just one.
See? It can’t be done. I have made my challenge and now I call on Bob Carr to sack Bob Ellis and instate me as his script writer. Gerard Henderson’s position us also safe.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 2:24 am
Ahahahahahahaha.
And I do mean that.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/328521.php
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 2:40 am
Is that one of those crosses,CL? A wagyudoodle?
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 3:14 am
I wonder why people think Samson (formerly known as Max S cream) is Bob Ellis. I doubt it. And suggesting that this low-rent troll is a well-known individual is no doubt gratifying for him. He doesn’t deserve to be flattered. He’s a moron. Nothing more.
Oh come on
19 Apr 12 at 3:19 am
It’s him.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 3:39 am
How do you know?
If it really is him, I’m surprised a man of his advanced years would behave in such a juvenile manner. And surely he would have better things to do? Nah, I can’t believe it.
Oh come on
19 Apr 12 at 4:04 am
Have you read his blog? Eye opening.
It’s ironic that he’s attracted to the Cat like a moth attracted to the light on the hill.
Abu Chowdah
19 Apr 12 at 5:20 am
http://dogsagainstobama.tumblr.com/
Quite so.
sdog
19 Apr 12 at 5:47 am
http://dogsagainstobama.tumblr.com/ — Quite so.
sdog
19 Apr 12 at 6:21 am
I love how Graeme Bird is still writing his thesis via you tube University.
.
19 Apr 12 at 9:41 am
Lzlo:
I don’t need any evidence to suggest that talking about the Old Testament’s highly contentious “facts” about the history of the region is a poor basis on which to found a discussion about modern Israel.
Yeah, and so was Yugoslavia. Time marches on. But as with the Old Testament, if you want to believe in moustachioed prophets indulging in extreme sports and quaffing soft drinks, I doubt I can stop you. Nobody could accuse you of being light on the fizz.
Europhile. Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians (and Greeks) all got there and had turn before the Romans.
Of course not. But so do many other religions and races. Only an idiot would say the Jewish claim is exclusive, because some beardo in a big old book allegedly gave it to them.
That you are a simpleton.
FDB
19 Apr 12 at 9:54 am
The rebellion 70 AD was very highly significant. I don’t think you can ignore how significant it was.
The Old Testament probably has some stuff wrong but it is a good source unless contradicted by archaeology. What other sources can you refer to?
.
19 Apr 12 at 10:03 am
No I was wrong. I didn’t realise they rebelled on and off for another 500 and something years.
.
19 Apr 12 at 10:07 am
Get your Romney campaign button:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2490/romneybutton1.jpg
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 10:23 am
Joe Hildebrand, on Paul Murray Live, absolutley lets loose on Gillard’s latest deceit.
Beautiful to watch. Watch will you still can.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 10:41 am
ReasonTV chick says goodbye and good riddance to the failed Space Shuttle…
Amusing and insightful:
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXkW8W0-Noc
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 10:50 am
Ahahahahaha.
Via.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 10:53 am
Gab,
That Hildebeest rant is gold, gold, gold…
Rabz
19 Apr 12 at 10:55 am
LOL. She is brilliant!
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 10:55 am
More LOLs
#ObamaDogRecipes — When You Lie Down With Dogs, You Get Photoshopped Eating Them
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 11:00 am
CL: that Romney campaign button link doesn’t work anymore. The host of the picture is blocking access.
Oh come on
19 Apr 12 at 11:04 am
Once again, by lying and covering up, Gillard has bungled again…
If Goose hadn’t sledged Twiggy, and if Gillard didn’t lie, Hildebrand wouldn’t have got P**sed and told the story in such an interesting and compelling fashion.
The end result of the lies is we all get to understand that Gillard & Swan knifed Rudd to ensure the solution was not implemented to the mining tax debacle Swan created.
Token
19 Apr 12 at 11:08 am
Brilliant, wasn’t it and reasonably fair too, considering. Always thought he was a bit of a lightweight …
Swan and the left will come gunning for him now – hope he’s ready.
Matt
19 Apr 12 at 11:11 am
“Joe Hildebrand, on Paul Murray Live”
now that’s passion.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 11:12 am
Dick Clark, RIP
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 11:23 am
Mission accomplished. That Mitt hates dogs meme is neutralised.
It looks like 2010 was a great training run for the Republicans as Romney is using the same tactic as the Tea Party. Smears are neutralised with a guerilla campaign laced with humour and disdain.
It will be interesting to see what the next moved is from the campaign for the candidate for Fear & Envy (formerly Hope & Change).
Token
19 Apr 12 at 12:06 pm
Its been neutered.
It’s almost like Team Romney planned the whole thing…
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
that thing about Mitt Romney and on the dog on top of the car in crate for a 12 hour trip is true apaprently.
That seems very unpleasant for the dog, for 12 hours too. I’ve never heard of such a thing before.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
his kids must have been wondering how their put was up there. how fast was he travelling. and for 12 hours.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:14 pm
Candy, I’ve travelled for hours and hours with dogs on the back of utes. They love it.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
It was a cocker spaniel Candy.
They love the breeze on their ears.
JamesK
19 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
no, it’s a cold hearted thing to do, i know that.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:17 pm
for 12 hours.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:18 pm
How did I miss taht, it was sitting there begging to be said
Not every dog is raised to live in doors. You do know where farmers and tradies put their dogs, don’t you Candy?
Token
19 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
Ann Romney: The dog loved it.
I cannot believe most Americans even give a hoot about this lame diversion. Recent poll shows number one concern is for the economy. The dog tale didn’t even rate.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
…coz dogs hate sticking their heads out of windows in cars with their tongues lolling out, and sheep dogs never stand on the back of utes barking at the wind…
Token
19 Apr 12 at 12:22 pm
Why are some on the right so intolerant of someone with a different opinion? Basically my opinion is a country should not be invaded without “proof”(not opinion) they intend to do harm to another or have broken an agreement they signed as a very minimum. It was almost made out that my opinion is the devils work.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:22 pm
Because you are a moron.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 12:25 pm
but how would she know the dog loved it, she wasn’t sitting up there with him, and he vomited too, went down the windscreen their kids saw it and asked what the brown stuff was.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:26 pm
Dog owners don’t know when their dogs are happy/unhappy/distressed? Is that your contention?
The dog got sick due to eating bad turkey. The dog had been on many trips and he didn’t appear to cower or run away from the “cage” whenever is was produced before a trip. Have you even read the story I posted?
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:29 pm
IT
Thanks for the reply. What is the minimum needed for invasion according to you?
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:30 pm
Yawn, let’s talk about you again Kelly.
There is the question of whether a dog like travelling on top of a car for 12 hours to discuss.
Token
19 Apr 12 at 12:34 pm
Dogs can eat just about anything, they gobble up cat excrement from the litter tray even, they be greedy devils, well Labradors are. but that’s another story.
He was travel sick or distressed and awful lonely up there.
anyway best drop the subject now.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:34 pm
..let us NOT talk about you again Kelly.
Token
19 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
and you know this because you are channelling the deceased Seamus?
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:36 pm
Hilter finds out Obama ate his dog.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:38 pm
The AFL has made it compulsory for all of its venues to have Muslim prayer rooms.
Yes, really.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:39 pm
Token
I don’t want anyone to talk about me. I would prefer people offer their opinions than only abuse. So I would like to know what all the abuse was about. That is to know about others not me.
About the dog so long as the temp was ok the dog was fine.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 12:41 pm
Blair nails it:
Not long now and sharia law will replace our current laws. I may even open a store…Burqas ‘R’ Us…I’ll even supply rainbow coloured burqas for the lesbo set.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
I look forward to taking my bacon burger into one and having a spot of quiet contemplation.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 12:48 pm
you’d wonder how they would have time to pray during a football game. like there’s no lunch break like at the cricket.
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:50 pm
Bacon burgers and alcohol will be banned. #AFLAllah.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:52 pm
Alcohol and pork bans to follow. And the 50% of women who currently make up attendances at AFL matches best be fucking off quick smart.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 12:52 pm
What a wonderful idea. So what if a Christian or a Hindu feels the urgent need to pray? Will they be allowed to use the same space as the followers of the religion of peace?
Token
19 Apr 12 at 12:56 pm
The Blues’ cheer squad.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 12:56 pm
“the Blues cheer squad”
but where are their pom poms?
candy
19 Apr 12 at 12:58 pm
Compulsory Muslim prayer rooms at the football…
In Australia.
Oh yeah: no smoking, no stubbies, no beach-balls, no rude barracking…
This country is an embarrassment.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
Crowds at the revamped MCG run onto the field after an AFL game.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:02 pm
Ted Nugent: Obama administration communists, President a “criminal,” Pelosi a “sub-human scoundrel,” Debbie Wasserman Schultz a “varmint.”
Tough but fair.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:02 pm
The MCG is the most holy site in Australia and to have this abomination foisted upon it should anger us all.
I’m calling for a public stoning of Demetriou.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 1:10 pm
Breaking…
Previously Unknown Piece Of Obama Educational History Found
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/328544.php
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:17 pm
Boycott all AFL games until these idiots come to their senses.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:17 pm
What a ridiculous reaction.
A single room given over for a specific use, like a disabled toilet, has you guys up in arms.
1. MCG is private property. What they do with their rooms is their business.
2. MCG is in the business of attracting as many people as possible to their venue. If they decide to cater to people with certain religious requirement for prayer, and this can be accomodated, WTF has this got to do with you?
oh the AFL has said there must be one – so you are not really upset with private property owners exercising their rights, but the AFL stepping in to force the issue.
Bit like a government mandating disability access / toilets – no difference.
The AFL has the right to say where their games will be played and the conditions they expect will be made available for their patrons.
so no different.
pete m
19 Apr 12 at 1:20 pm
Ah yes, the “secular” left now come along and defend religion at the AFL. Not unexpected.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
The MCG is owned by the Victorian Government and the MCG Trust. It’s not private property at all.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
So the AFL really isn’t the peoples’ game according to pete m.
JamesK
19 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
Pete – I think you’re overlooking the fact that probably not one single AFL stadium was built without a preponderance of governmnet money. The AFL is less private company, more corporate dole-bludger.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:25 pm
Obviously because some AFL clubs have official chaplains, the country is about to be taken over by cardinals imposing hardline Christian law on working families, preventing contraception and abortions, and mandating a haloed picture of Pell to be installed in every classroom.
Typical overreaction by the usual suspects. It’s a quiet room in a big building. You might as well complain about disabled toilets or baby changing rooms. Or the Long Room.
m0nty
19 Apr 12 at 1:39 pm
Judge: Taxpayers liable for rooting injury:
Woman who had sex on work trip gets compensation.
Look out for proposals to make gridiron helmets mandatory for public servants.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:45 pm
The Catholic Church hasn’t had earthly power since 1798. What are you rambling about?
Islam is followed by a few crazies in theocracies. A few Muslim crazies in Anglophile nations want Sharia law.
Yes minty, the AFL will get MORE popular by appealing to anti social religious zealots more at home with the Exclusive Bretheren than other footy fans.
If you want to pray, go to a Church or a Mosque, don’t go to the football.
.
19 Apr 12 at 1:45 pm
Workers comp? She should have sued the hotel for negligence.
.
19 Apr 12 at 1:47 pm
‘It’s stupid’: Jeff Kennett slams AFL plan to install prayer rooms at all grounds
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/afl-now-a-mecca-for-all-fans/story-e6frf9jf-1226332122338
Personally I am upset my old employer didn’t have a room for my transcendental meditation. Well they did but the ceiling clearance was very low (8.5 ft). I felt like I was excluded.
.
19 Apr 12 at 1:48 pm
I’m intrigued by the repeated claim that Muslim prayer rooms are comparable to toilets.
Good call.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 1:49 pm
mOnty do you support Scientologists demands for an auditing room at all grounds?
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 1:53 pm
Get with the program, Gab. Islam is abhorrent to the athiest Left, but it is an essential ramraid truck that can be used to smash Western culture and turn it into an allegorical “flat smoking tank park”, just like the Middle East homelands (Thanks, Patrick Cook). Plus theocracies are good at transforming functioning economies into impoverished topdown proletaria like the Union of Soviet Socialist (bwahahaha!!!)Republics.
Tom
19 Apr 12 at 1:57 pm
Hell no. That’s not a religion, it’s a scam.
m0nty
19 Apr 12 at 2:01 pm
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/9212861/Mays-bid-to-deport-Qatada-descends-into-farce.html
Viva
19 Apr 12 at 2:14 pm
I really could not care less what the stadium owners do with their space. My query was whether those using the room have an open mind if others had a genuine need. Most muslims I know wouldn’t, a few will.
What have the organisers of the Aus Open found when some fans arrive with fixed opinions about others and a belief they don’t ahve to respect other people?
Token
19 Apr 12 at 2:14 pm
The AFL aren’t being inclusive. They are pandering. That’s the problem.
.
19 Apr 12 at 2:17 pm
I’d like to say I agree with you for one m0nty, but I can’t. Scientology is an official religion, according to the Government, and your comment may well be in breach of the Racial Discrimination Act Section 18C.
I’m sure that comment is ‘reasonably likely’ to offend or humiliate Scientologists, based on their religion. And they’re not exactly shy about using lawyers, so I’d be very careful if I was you.
As I said though, if it were legal, I’d agree with you…
papachango
19 Apr 12 at 2:24 pm
I really admire how the lefties bow down to Islam and mock Christianity.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 2:27 pm
We agree, Minty!!! It was invented with the express purpose of separating people from their money.
Tom
19 Apr 12 at 2:29 pm
Scientology leaders ought to hunted down like dogs under racketeering laws.
Then again why defend their acolytes. You’d be pretty dopey to sign up.
.
19 Apr 12 at 2:31 pm
Ur in awe of their hypocrisy and shamelessness Gab?
It is remarkable that wantonly deaf leftist effrontery is still quite so gobsmacking
JamesK
19 Apr 12 at 2:31 pm
ought to BE hunted down…
.
19 Apr 12 at 2:32 pm
10 out of 10 rapists agree…
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 2:32 pm
Dodgy bastards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_in_Australia#Banning_of_.27Tom_Cruise:_An_Unauthorized_Biography_by_Australian_book_retailers
.
19 Apr 12 at 2:33 pm
Haven’t seen Spot_the_Dog for a bit. Hope Obama didn’t get to him.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 2:34 pm
I really admire how a certain conservative Catholic expects respect for his religion while calling Muslim prayer rooms “toilets”, Gab.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 2:35 pm
Hey Gab, I like the way your pro “any woman should have a handgun” ad features a suss looking guy in a hoodie. Hoodies being the universal sign of “people who you can probably safely shoot,” as we all know.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 2:38 pm
Yeah, me too, Steve. Except that he never called them toilets. Stop lying Steve.
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 2:39 pm
So you and Democrat Zimmerman agree?
Gab
19 Apr 12 at 2:45 pm
If Steve can afford to be toking on a bong at 2.30 in the afternoon, weed and hash obviously need to be legalised and taxed into oblivion like tobacco.
Tom
19 Apr 12 at 2:50 pm
So Steve, do you beleive the guy in the ad was wearing the hoody because he was heading down to the shop to get some skittles and ice tea?
Token
19 Apr 12 at 2:51 pm
Why should we complain about those things? They discriminate against nobody based on their religion.
Or are you saying Islam is like a disability? Or that government funded buildings are ok to discriminate based on religion?
If the Exclusive Brethren were given their very own special room you’d be having an absolute fit. You’re very, very weak m0nty.
twostix
19 Apr 12 at 3:07 pm
Incredible.
Sue? Throw the taxeating scum in jail.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 3:12 pm
dot and Tom, I’m no fan of Scientiology, but they’re extremely litigious. If you call their religion a scam ior offend them in any way they’ll haul you before Judge Mordy.
yet another reason to strike down this stupid law.
papachango
19 Apr 12 at 3:33 pm
Ahahahahaha.
I don’t “expect” any “respect” for my religion, Steve.
I expect the opposite, doofus, not least from pro-abortion ‘Catholics’ like you.
And I didn’t call Muslim “prayer rooms” toilets. NTTAWWT. Two commenters defending football sharia said Muslim prayer rooms were comparable to toilets.
So we have wrongness, lies, quote-doctoring and boilerplate left-wing extremism from you, and all in one brief post. Outstanding.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 3:35 pm
You should never equate islam with anything as useful as a toilet.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 3:36 pm
Just look at this magnificent truck.
And it was spotted by good old Evil Pundit.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 3:38 pm
Interesting article from Obama’s cousin about how the president has failed to live up to the aspirations all Americans have.
Token
19 Apr 12 at 3:49 pm
Thank God EP is still around
Tal
19 Apr 12 at 3:51 pm
Churchill, man of style
http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2012/04/16/winston-churchill-man-of-style/
But I still like this picture best
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/winstonchurchill.html
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:01 pm
Tal, you missed the 5,232rd Catallaxian discussion of gay marriage at the other thread today.
It got more anatomical than usual, though, which made for an entertaining distraction.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 4:03 pm
I bet it was a Kleenex moment for you, steve
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:09 pm
I did have a look at the thread Steve,I’m over it
Jase how was SEAsia?
Tal
19 Apr 12 at 4:10 pm
Are they sad tissues or happy tissues?
.
19 Apr 12 at 4:10 pm
Hot, tal, very hot. But I did gain something like 3 kg from eating 5 times a day
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:12 pm
It was a seminal moment for steve.
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:13 pm
Been way out in the boonies for work. What’d I miss?
I do see that the insane murderer Anders Brievik has explained his ‘philosophy’ (http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/breiviks_useful_idiots/).
Ultra-nationalist anti-democratic revolutionary who wanted to cause a “witch-hunt” by the left-wing Norwegian government against “moderate cultural conservatives and nationalists” in order to increase societal polarisation and encourage more monsters like him. Hmm. Where have we seen that before?
So yep, he’s a nutcase.
Mk50 of Brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 4:14 pm
Mk50 of Brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 4:15 pm
I don’t know if anyone has suggested it yet as I’m trying to catch up.
Kelly, go to Firefox toolbar and select Tools – Options – Advanced – General. Make sure your ‘check spelling as I type box’ is ticked. You may need to restart Firefox to enable the change.
Winston SMITH
19 Apr 12 at 4:16 pm
Penang seems to be doing very well under the Opposition. I think it has the potential to be a second Singapore (like Singapore it’s an island and a Chinese majority state) if it secedes (fat chance though).
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:16 pm
Victor Alan Hanson does a great review.
Token
19 Apr 12 at 4:17 pm
“Hot, tal, very hot. But I did gain something like 3 kg from eating 5 times a day…”
We’ve got to get this street vending happening here. Its so important that a large proportion of the population is in a position to go in for a low start-up business of their own. Its so important that ubiquitous small outdoor shoppery drives prices for many things down.
We need to regulate in such a way that the retailer who has the lease gets the revenue from the street entrepreneur who parks in front of his shop. But we don’t really want them to be able to say no.
Okay probably we want them to be able to say no to an individual street vendor, but not to the idea of the street vendor in front of the shop that he is leasing. But matters will run more smoothly if its the fellow with the lease, and not the fellow who owns the real estate …. things will go better if its the fellow with the lease who gets the position fee from the street vendor.
The reason I say that is that the newly ubiquitous appearance of thousands of street vendors will hit the lease holders bottom line first. So the transition will be easier if it is the lease-holder, not the real estate owner, who picks up the revenue.
Doc Simmons
19 Apr 12 at 4:30 pm
Badass of the week is a really well written blog. I like the way the fellow once apologised for the over-representation of Gurkhas in his kickass-review.
Doc Simmons
19 Apr 12 at 4:35 pm
Bird
Zoning is virtually non existent in Penang so you can run a cafe from your house
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:38 pm
All the best places on earth have great street food. Australia of course has none.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 4:38 pm
“Ted Nugent: Obama administration communists, President a “criminal,” Pelosi a “sub-human scoundrel,” Debbie Wasserman Schultz a “varmint.””
More than fair. And his guitar playing was just exemplary. I always steer the young guitar aspirants towards Nugent, because his riffs and introductions are so creative, but also pretty easy for the kids to master (one would think …. I don’t play myself). I do so at the risk of corrupting the youth. Since his lyrics can come across somewhat sex-obsessed and chauvinistic. But with guitar composition and delivery like that, what else can you say but “bravo.”
Doc Simmons
19 Apr 12 at 4:41 pm
IT is back in his Aussie whinger “I live in a dump of a country” mode.
I used to think it was only lefties whinged incessantly about their country being less than their ideal: but now I know better.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 4:43 pm
Stop calling me names:
“Zoning is virtually non existent in Penang so you can run a cafe from your house…”
Yeah that is what you want. But when you go in for massive transitions you are still likely to need sunsetted regulations. You want the medium-term rewards going to the people who are going to be stomped by the changes to the market first.
In Thailand you would go to fairly isolated tourist spots, and expecting to be ripped off. But the ease of starting a business, meant that the prices were even good in most of these situations. Not like here when our goons find themselves with a captured market.
Doc Simmons
19 Apr 12 at 4:44 pm
Do you disapprove of this ‘Bird’ fellow, Doc?
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:46 pm
I miss Penang a LOT, Jason. It and Singapore are my two favourite places in the world.
Best eatery when I was going there regularly was this Indian bloke and his family who rocked up at the back of Penang General Hospital around dusk. Spotlessly clean little truck, they’d fold down the sides and such – it was a mobile restoran with this brilliant food they’d been cooking all during the day.
Then there’s the Banana Leaf restoran at Butterworth (best Tamil food evah), the bamboo tube compressed rice and jet-black ‘pulled’ rendang at the Thieves market stall….
Mk50 of Brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 4:46 pm
Oh, the other thing about Malaysia -
it’s really sad how many Malay girls wear head scarves nowadays in KL. At least they’re too sane to fall for the burqa nonsense. The only people who wear those are still Arabs. Nonetheless it’s a shame as they have some lookers.
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:47 pm
It’s an okay place to work and raise a family I suppose. But if one has a hankering for excitement and adventure one would be best fucking off from these staid shores.
Wouldn’t you like to be able to buy a bowl of beef pho from Mrs Tran on your way to work? Or to purchase a refreshing bottle of Bintang from Wayan’s cooler whilst relaxing on the beach?
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 4:48 pm
Yes it is. Back from a family trip to the Shell refinery, you nutjob?
.
19 Apr 12 at 4:51 pm
My comments last night.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 4:55 pm
Australia is a good place to live but it could be even better with a lot of changes which would not in any way be detrimental to its general quality of life other than to prudes and neurotics like steve.
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 4:57 pm
I’m extremely surprised that people holiday in Australia. Unless things change I’ll never spend another dollar on tourism here, except maybe lunch at a winery.
I’d advise any young foreigner looking for a good time to avoid Australia like a Turkish prison.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 5:03 pm
Jason: as a person who has sworn off ever sitting on a public toilet seat, I’m not sure you’re the best person to be deciding what’s neurotic.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 5:05 pm
Not into camping, IT?
If you were, which country?
Jumpnmcar
19 Apr 12 at 5:07 pm
Steve, on the other hand,utilises as many as possible, usually late at night.
That’s the impression i get.
Jumpnmcar
19 Apr 12 at 5:13 pm
He would be if he could shoot roos and koalas from his tent flap in the morning, while his exotic female asian holiday companion was providing services inside the sleeping bag at the bargain rate of $5 a day; but because Australia is a bit restrictive for such opportunities, camping is too boring for him.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 5:13 pm
Steve, Jason is not exactly an island in not wanting to take a crap in a public dunny.
C.L.
19 Apr 12 at 5:14 pm
India just demonstrated its capacity to nuke China with ICBMs.
So Iran has no nukes and we get excited, and India has real nukes with intercontinetntal capacity and we sell it ‘the good stuff’.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 5:14 pm
SA
Stop stirring.
kelly liddle
19 Apr 12 at 5:16 pm
I used to love it. However camping has become as regulated as any other activity in this fascist hellhole. You wouldn’t believe some of the remote places rangers have woken me up to ask if I’ve paid my camping fees. No fires, no guns, no fishing, no fun.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 5:16 pm
Bob
India has no reason to nuke China. And it is not run by crazies. On the other hand, Pakistan could be overrun by crazies one day and it does have nukes too.
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 5:18 pm
That does sound rather wonderful.
Infidel Tiger
19 Apr 12 at 5:18 pm
Oh very funny, Jump.
steve from brisbane
19 Apr 12 at 5:18 pm
“it’s really sad how many Malay girls wear head scarves nowadays in KL…”
It hurts. What can be done? Next to nothing.
Doc Simmons
19 Apr 12 at 5:19 pm
Where do I sign up?
.
19 Apr 12 at 5:21 pm
Crazies is not a known concept in diplomacy.
India has this capacity because they distrust China.
China in turn distrusts India even further.
These non-crazies have already managed to have one war.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 5:23 pm
Its a pity too that Englishmen of a certain class wear a bowler hat.
What primitive form of religion causes them to so absurdly attire themselves?
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 5:25 pm
Of course, no one has dealt with North Korea before.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/08/north-korea-un-security-council-missile
North Korea’s deputy UN ambassador Pak Tok Hun accused the security council of being “undemocratic” by targeting the reclusive communist nation while allowing many other countries to launch satellites.
It’s complete nonsense. Is this where you ply your speechwriting trade now?
.
19 Apr 12 at 5:26 pm
Bob
You really like stirring, don’t you?
1) I have no sexual proclivities for Englishmen. Based on what you have written, you may not be in the same position.
2) I never said that the Muslim headscarf was absurd or primitive though I think the burqa is. I said it was sad for males who like a perv. In that it achieves its intended effect of ‘female modesty’ without going over the top like the burqa.
jtfsoon
19 Apr 12 at 5:29 pm
The overriding International concern with nukes is who is likely to use them in a first strike, bob, you fat old Jew-hating bastard.
So bob, it’s basically about power politics and not on whose side are “they” on. India is unlikely to be going around and using them out of the blue in a first strike against its neighbors.
No one, even in the middle East much gave a shit about Israel holding nukes as they knew that Israel was never going to use nukes because it simply hates towel heads. They all realized it was defensive posturing in case one of those murderous scum regimes attacked it. It didn’t cause Saudi nor Egypt to race and build a nuke bomb in the same way that it has threatened them with Iran’s intentions, you fat stupid turd.
Iran holding nukes is not a threat to Israel, you taxeating infestation of a blob. The concern is that it will start an arms race in all the Middle East seeing it holds most of the world’s drama queens and degenerate lunatics.
It would be curious say, but wouldn’t worry us much if New Zealand decided to nuke up, however I think a nuked up Indonesia may cause us to go nuke. See the difference Bob, you unparalleled rotund oaf.
I hope that helps you get your mind around the problem Bob. Thanks.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 5:30 pm
oops… is not just a threat to Israel…
JC
19 Apr 12 at 5:32 pm
Not even, strangely enough, the leaders of North Korea are crazy.
They seem to employ the strategy of always over-playing their hand.
We think its stupid given their lack of power, but it has worked.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 5:35 pm
What an awful, awful combo.
JC
19 Apr 12 at 5:35 pm
I’m a partisan of the idea that the less that is shown, the more this ‘less’ is eroticised.
Head scarves are attractive and make the unveiling even more dramatic.
There is a scene in a Kairosatami film where the Iranian heroine unveils.
Samson Agonistes
19 Apr 12 at 5:38 pm