Midweek Forum: April 16, 2012

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Not into camping, IT?

    I used to love it. However camping has become as regulated as any other activity in this fascist hellhole. You wouldn’t believe some of the remote places rangers have woken me up to ask if I’ve paid my camping fees. No fires, no guns, no fishing, no fun.

  2. jtfsoon

    Bob
    India has no reason to nuke China. And it is not run by crazies. On the other hand, Pakistan could be overrun by crazies one day and it does have nukes too.

  3. Infidel Tiger

    He would be if he could shoot roos and koalas from his tent flap in the morning, while his exotic female asian holiday companion was providing services inside the sleeping bag at the bargain rate of $5 a day

    That does sound rather wonderful.

  4. Doc Simmons

    “it’s really sad how many Malay girls wear head scarves nowadays in KL…”

    It hurts. What can be done? Next to nothing.

  5. .

    He would be if he could shoot roos and koalas from his tent flap in the morning, while his exotic female asian holiday companion was providing services inside the sleeping bag at the bargain rate of $5 a day; but because Australia is a bit restrictive for such opportunities, camping is too boring for him.

    Where do I sign up?

  6. Samson Agonistes

    Crazies is not a known concept in diplomacy.

    India has this capacity because they distrust China.

    China in turn distrusts India even further.

    These non-crazies have already managed to have one war.

  7. Samson Agonistes

    Its a pity too that Englishmen of a certain class wear a bowler hat.

    What primitive form of religion causes them to so absurdly attire themselves?

  8. .

    Crazies is not a known concept in diplomacy.

    Of course, no one has dealt with North Korea before.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/08/north-korea-un-security-council-missile

    North Korea’s deputy UN ambassador Pak Tok Hun accused the security council of being “undemocratic” by targeting the reclusive communist nation while allowing many other countries to launch satellites.

    It’s complete nonsense. Is this where you ply your speechwriting trade now?

  9. jtfsoon

    Bob
    You really like stirring, don’t you?

    1) I have no sexual proclivities for Englishmen. Based on what you have written, you may not be in the same position.

    2) I never said that the Muslim headscarf was absurd or primitive though I think the burqa is. I said it was sad for males who like a perv. In that it achieves its intended effect of ‘female modesty’ without going over the top like the burqa.

  10. JC

    So Iran has no nukes and we get excited, and India has real nukes with intercontinetntal capacity and we sell it ‘the good stuff’.

    The overriding International concern with nukes is who is likely to use them in a first strike, bob, you fat old Jew-hating bastard.

    So bob, it’s basically about power politics and not on whose side are “they” on. India is unlikely to be going around and using them out of the blue in a first strike against its neighbors.

    No one, even in the middle East much gave a shit about Israel holding nukes as they knew that Israel was never going to use nukes because it simply hates towel heads. They all realized it was defensive posturing in case one of those murderous scum regimes attacked it. It didn’t cause Saudi nor Egypt to race and build a nuke bomb in the same way that it has threatened them with Iran’s intentions, you fat stupid turd.

    Iran holding nukes is not a threat to Israel, you taxeating infestation of a blob. The concern is that it will start an arms race in all the Middle East seeing it holds most of the world’s drama queens and degenerate lunatics.

    It would be curious say, but wouldn’t worry us much if New Zealand decided to nuke up, however I think a nuked up Indonesia may cause us to go nuke. See the difference Bob, you unparalleled rotund oaf.

    I hope that helps you get your mind around the problem Bob. Thanks.

  11. JC

    oops… is not just a threat to Israel…

  12. Samson Agonistes

    Not even, strangely enough, the leaders of North Korea are crazy.

    They seem to employ the strategy of always over-playing their hand.

    We think its stupid given their lack of power, but it has worked.

  13. Samson Agonistes

    I’m a partisan of the idea that the less that is shown, the more this ‘less’ is eroticised.
    Head scarves are attractive and make the unveiling even more dramatic.

    There is a scene in a Kairosatami film where the Iranian heroine unveils.

  14. Samson Agonistes

    There has been very few Middle Eastern wars that haven’t been started by Western powers.

    Once by Egypt and twice by Iraq and the rest are internal troubles.

  15. Rabz

    Yep, subjugation of women – it’s the new normal!

  16. The overriding International concern with nukes is who is likely to use them in a first strike,

    Well it is pretty obvious that is not Iran as they don’t have any so far as anyone knows.

  17. JC

    Not even, strangely enough, the leaders of North Korea are crazy.

    Bob, NK holding nukes and developing warheads and delivery systems is a huge concern, you lopsided king of pork. The reason is that they proliferate and have been found to do so often enough. They also frighten the shit out of their neighbors when you combine their stinging and horrendous rhetoric with the fact that they have a few lazy nukes. Japan has threatened to go nuke on that threat alone.

    They seem to employ the strategy of always over-playing their hand.

    Which is the principle problem you over eating oaf. They may overplay their hand and someone misreads the cards one of these times and millions of people perish.

    If that’s what you think is a good way to play games in the middle east (north Korea does) then good luck selling that idea, you insufferable lard ball. I think you’d find that a nuked up middle east living on a trigger’s edge will not be an easy co-existence especially if say one country’s early warming systems goes haywire.

    A nuked up saudi has 2 minutes to decide to launch a return volley because its warning system is telling them that Iran has launched theirs. What happens in that situation bob, you old kig of lard? Would you be happy Saudi taking that quick decision believing it will be well thought out?

    We think its stupid given their lack of power, but it has worked.

    Multiply that 20 times and then think what could go wrong you taxeating parasite.

    Hope that helps a little Bob and why it’s a concern if there is an arms race in the Middle East.

  18. JC

    Well it is pretty obvious that is not Iran as they don’t have any so far as anyone knows.

    You’re a middle east expert now, Kelly, and soon giving Al Jazera interviews from the comfort of your new cab?

  19. Samson Agonistes

    surenchere, to use the language of diplomacy – the easily countered North Korean strategy:

    Definition: overbid, higher bid, overstatement, oneupmanship

  20. JC

    There is a scene in a Kairosatami film where the Iranian heroine unveils.

    You’re watching Arab porn now Bob?

  21. JC
    Just like to stick to what the IAEA says.

  22. jtfsoon

    don’t ever call a Persian an Arab, JC

  23. SA
    What is your opinion about the minimum standard to invade a country? I have stated my position but no one here seems to want to tell me what position they hold.

  24. JC

    Definition: overbid, higher bid, overstatement, oneupmanship

    Yes Bob, we know that. And it has possibly worked so far. However they also have proliferated to Iran and Pakistan. And one day their poker game could come a cropper, you deranged loon.

    Lets take it as a given you hate Jews Bob. We know that. You don’t have to keep reminding.

    Now lets play a game here. Say you lived in a neighborhood where the people around all owned guns.

    You had two neighbors. One was a Jewish couple who are nice and always courteous and obliging.

    The other neighbor is a stark raving lunatic who shouts at his family and you’ve heard him often even threatening to kill them in the fit of rage.

    Which neighbor would most cause you concern? Which one Bob, you porker?

  25. JC

    don’t ever call a Persian an Arab, JC

    Oh yea.

  26. JC

    JC
    Just like to stick to what the IAEA says.

    And what the fuck do you know about the IAEA, Kelly?

    Are you fast tracking the cab please?

  27. And what the fuck do you know about the IAEA, Kelly?

    JC
    Read the report yourself if you want there is nothing in it but innuendo. If there is a better authority then let me know who it is.

  28. Less than 2 weeks to go on the cab hopefully, all is going well.

  29. JC

    Inuendo?

    Dickhead, the concern is that once Iran reaches to point of manufacturing weapons grade plutonium there will be no stopping it.

    It hasn’t reached that point yet because it’s hasn’t got there technologically.

    And tell me… the UK, French, German, Italian, US, Israeli, Spanish intel agencies believe Iran is progressing its nuke ambitions to make warheads. Why are they wrong and a Brisbane based cabbie right?

  30. m0nty

    don’t ever call a Persian an Arab, JC

    Jason straying into Python territory there.

  31. JC

    Monster

    Don’t wreck the thread worse than it is by showing up here. Homer needs help in aisle 7.

  32. Why are they wrong and a Brisbane based cabbie right?

    They may be right or wrong no proof of either. Unless they are mind readers then there is not way to know what the Iranians are thinking. I have to be right as it is not possible to be wrong if I do not claim either way. All I have said is that military action should not be taken without proof. Currently there is no proof and Iran does seem to be co operating with the IAEA. If Iran really wants to obtain a nuclear weapon they can as they only have to skim a very small percentage every year and build one in time. They can also skim the raw material from their mines. But as you think they can’t plan and are crazy no need to worry about that prospect.

  33. Oh come on

    don’t ever call a Persian an Arab, JC

    Why not? It really pisses them off.

  34. JamesK

    Good rant by Michelle Malkin on Hannity:

    The thing that has changed phenomenally between 2008 and 2012 is that we don’t have to rely on Barack and Michelle Obama and their Alinksyite storytellers in the MSM and all of their operatives to set the tone and the storyline for this election. That is what underscores all of the victories that we’ve seen over the last four years on the Right. Conservatives online are not accepting these fables that have been shoved down our throat.

    The idea that Obama has brought us out of the light when he’s plunged us deeper into the sinkhole of debt, that somehow Obama has opened up Washington DC to make it as transparent and open as possible when they’ve done all of these deals and subverted the rule of law behind close doors. That somehow Obama is more likable than any Republican and somehow he’s a nice guy – I hate hearing this from Mitt Romney, he’s got to get this talking point out of his mouth. Barack Obama is not a nice guy. He has dealt brutally with the Right, with people like Paul Ryan and brave Republicans who have been calling him to the carpet on all of the disgust and culture of corruption that has reigned.

    And that is the darkness that we have to get out of in November.

  35. Samson Agonistes

    The reality is that self-defense is the only justification for an attack on another country.

    You don’t really have to wait to defend yourself if you have a reasonable belief its imminent.

    The idea of the Security Council approving an attack I find repugnant and dangerous, but its legal.

    If self-defense is the ground then its necessary to show a real, imminent threat.

    Hence, the fabrication of WMD’s by the neocons employed by Rumsfeld and the fabrication of the Iranian nukes programme.

    If self-defense is not an issue, then I find the right to humanitarian intervention a dangerous contrivance.

  36. Tiny Dancer

    Steve – found that Arab porn yet, or have you got to wait until the misses goes to her greenies meeting?

  37. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Sturmabteilung:

    There has been very few Middle Eastern wars that haven’t been started by Western powers.

    Once by Egypt and twice by Iraq and the rest are internal troubles.

    Shorter Sturmabteilung: Whitey is always to blame!

    Lessee…
    1769-70 Ali Bey declares Egypt independent, attacks the ottomans and conquers western Arabia.
    1771-72 Ali bey invades Syria
    1772, Ali Bey is briefly dethroned, returns, invades the Levant
    1785-86 Mameluke revolt against Ottomans
    Napoleon invades Egypt (a European! Sturmabteilung wets himself with joy)
    1808-09 Internal revolts
    1811 massacre of teh Mamelukes
    1811-1818 The Wahabi War
    1815 Cairo Mutiny
    1820-1839 Egyptian-Sudanese War (Egypt established as premier Imperial power in the region)
    1823-27 Egyptian suppression of Greek revolts, Crete added to Egyptian Empire
    1832-1833 – First Turko-Egyptian War, Egyptian Empire takes Iraq and Syria
    1839-1841 Second Turko-Egyptian War Egyptian Empire loses Crete and parts of Syria
    1866-68 Cretan Insurrection
    1874-79 Upper Nile War Egyptian Empire advances as far as lake Albert
    1875-79 Egyptian-Abyssinnian War. Ethiopia holds off Egyptian Empire’s expansion eastwards, war ended by the deposition of Ismail
    1882 British bombardment of Alexandria
    1883 Dervish revolt against Egyptian Empire starts Mahdist Uprising – First Egyptian-Mahdist War
    1896-98 Second Mahdist War With British support, Egyptian Empire retakes Sudan and re-establishes Egyptian control.
    Egyptian Empire enters period of long peace, during which their regime becomes increasingly corrupt and outsources government functions to British functionaries
    1945-48 Israel – Guerilla war
    1948 UN establishes State of Israel
    1948-49 Arabs attack Israel, first Arab-Israeli War

    1952 Arab nationalists overthrow Monarchy – end of Egyptian Empire
    1953-54 Syrian-Druze War
    1955 yemini revolt
    1956 Suez War (caused by Nasser seizing Suez Canal)
    1958 lebanese revolt. Iraqi revolt
    1959 Iraqi rebellion
    1961-70 Iraqi-Kurdish war
    1961-67 yemeni civil war
    1967 Six Day War (caused by Arabs – israelis win as pre-empt the Egyptian-Syrian-Jordanian invasion)
    1967-73 Suez demi-war
    1970 Jordanian-PLO war and Jordanian-Syrian War
    1973 Yom Kippur War – Egyptian/Syrian surprise attack on Israel
    1980-88 Iran-iraq war

    Yep, all whitey’s fault according to the titanic genius of Sturmabteilung!

    What a boorish, ill-educated clown he is.

  38. JamesK

    You don’t really have to wait to defend yourself if you have a reasonable belief its imminent.

    Good to see m’bob is good with the Bush doctrine of pre-emption.

    How about international activist democratic regime change m’bob?

  39. Mk50 of Brisbane

    SO if one looks at the list, the main drivers for war from the late 19th century in the middle east was the struggle between the two major local Empires, the Ottoman Empire and the Egyptian Empire, the latter of which lasted from 1769 to 1952! And was promptly re-established by Nasser as the UAE.

    The collapse of the Ottoman Empire was caused when THEY declared war on the Allies – and lost!

    But in simpleton-world where Sturmabteilung lives, it’s all whitey’s fault.

    What unbelievable ignorance from Sturmabteilung.

  40. Oh come on

    You do all realise that Samson will go away if you simply ignore him?

    DON’T FEED THE TROLL

  41. Oh come on

    I hate hearing this from Mitt Romney, he’s got to get this talking point out of his mouth.

    JamesK: I take Malkin’s point and I agree with her, but on the other hand I don’t think it’ll play well if Romney takes a harder line on this issue. A great many Americans think that Obama’s a “nice guy”, and striking against this could allow Romney to be framed as an angry man candidate. This was one of my major concerns about Gingrich.

    Romney only needs to stick to slamming Obama’s record. He can win on the strength of that alone. He doesn’t need to try to tear down Obama’s personal popularity, which remains strong and durable. Furthermore, doing so is a high-risk strategy that won’t yield much even if Romney does manage to avoid the pitfalls of going down that path.

  42. Jumpnmcar

    IT

    No fires, no guns, no fishing, no fun.

    “Come up to QLD ® ” We’re behind the time intentionally. Just get up in the morning, with the Sun on the starboard and drive/ride/sail/fly/run. Anywhere north of Rocky.

    SofB

    Oh very funny, Jump.

    * Full many a truth oft is told in jest.

  43. JamesK

    It would take much to disavow Americans of the falsity of the leftist MSM meme that Obama is a nice guy.

    He’s clearly a jerk who uses frequent ugly divisive rhetoric.

    If people realise the nice guy meme is a con then it’s a short step to the realisation that they’ve been had on any number of levels with this the very worst president in modern history.

    They need only show ads with Obummer in his own words

  44. Tom

    James, OCO has the recipe for eternal happiness:

    DON’T FEED THE TROLL

  45. candy

    i think Mr Obama appears a ‘nice guy’, when he was out here he reached out to touch the hands of children and he looked happy and was smiling and genuine, and was kind of politely putting up with Ms Gillard’s fawning.

    i couldn’t not call him a jerk, not at all, by the way he seemed here.

    just an observation.

  46. Oh come on

    You couldn’t not call him a jerk?

  47. He’s clearly a jerk who uses frequent ugly divisive rhetoric.

    all leftists are driven by jealousy and hatred, they are all jerks.

  48. JamesK

    just an observation.

    It’s just an observation of the MSM filter thru which you saw ‘The One’ Candy.

    Did they show his head halo’d by an out of focus presidential seal in the background as well?

  49. candy

    JamesK it’s what I saw on TV and my reactions were he was genuine and an okay guy.

  50. JamesK

    You couldn’t not call him a jerk?

    I wouldn’t recommend Romney does if that’s what you mean.

    On the other hand Romney shouldn’t keep saying the President is a “nice guy”.

    Obama’s campaign will slime him and after that Romney’s campaign should show the truth about this man-child.

    That camapaign will not be helped by Romney’s stupid rhetoric now.

  51. JamesK

    JamesK it’s what I saw on TV and my reactions were he was genuine and an okay guy.

    That’s how propaganda always works Candy

    His rhetoric is ugly.

    It wouldn’t take much work on your part to correct your false impressions.

  52. Oh come on

    I think it’s a risky and unnecessary strategy, James. Consider the ALP’s constant whining about TA’s “relentless negativity”. I reckon a goodly number of voters believe this ALP spin and consider it a black mark against Abbott. Of course, the ALP are so shit that they’ll get thrown out come what may, but the Presidential election won’t be such a one-sided contest. I’m not sure it would be prudent for Romney to make a concerted effort to undermine Obama’s personal popularity – this could easily backfire, and there’s so much low-hanging fruit available to Romney that he doesn’t need to take the risk.

  53. JamesK

    I think it’s a risky and unnecessary strategy, James.

    What strategy precisely do you think is “risky and unnecessary” Oco?

  54. Oh come on

    On the other hand Romney shouldn’t keep saying the President is a “nice guy”.

    OK I agree with this.

  55. Oh come on

    What strategy precisely do you think is “risky and unnecessary” Oco?

    Trying to take a hatchet to Obama’s personal popularity.

  56. candy

    Well JamesK i got a very nice impression of Rick Perry too, and I’m disappointed he’s not in it, there was something very solid and reliable about him. His conservativeness was very suitable.

    He so looked like a US President should look like too (to my mind)!

  57. Mk50 of Brisbane

    OCO, This troll thinks it is casting pearls of its wisdom before libertarian swine. I’m proving it to be merely a poorly educated boor.

  58. JamesK

    Trying to take a hatchet to Obama’s personal popularity.

    Malkin wasn’t advocating that.

    She just quite rightly lamented Romney’s stupidity.

    The dirty work isn’t for Romney or Obama it’s for their surrogates.

    Obama will take a hatchet to Romney’s character.

    When he does Romney should return in kind.

    All that’s needed is ads with Obummer in his own words.

    You will see lotsa such ads in the next 6 months

  59. Jumpnmcar

    Hey Sinc, if you started a new Open Thread now,Rabz would be tricked as, hey?

  60. Seeing we’re talking failed Presidential candidates, I hope people didn’t miss the massive Tax Revolution rally organised a couple of days ago by Herman Cain.

  61. Tom

    …TA’s “relentless negativity”. I reckon a goodly number of voters believe this ALP spin and consider it a black mark against Abbott.

    I don’t think they do. The bigger the attempted crucifixion of Abbott by Labor, the bigger the backlash against the ALP on election day.

  62. JamesK

    The two Ricks are genuinely big sweeties Candy.

  63. Oh come on

    But Mark, Samson doesn’t care about your efforts. He’s trolling for responses. I’m sure he doesn’t believe half the crap he posts here.

    Consider his MO. He comes on here and blurts out a one sentence, risibly idiotic leftist piece of nonsense, which is then effortlessly refuted by one or more posters. Samson makes no effort to address this, abandons his original assertion, and moves directly onto another moronic, easily dismissed lefty talking point. Which is countered by one or more posters. Then out comes another. And so on and so forth, until the thread’s thoroughly derailed. Samson’s a hydra. You keep chopping off his head and he grows a new one straight away. In fact, what he wants is for you to make the effort of chopping off his head.

    Ignore him. He’ll get bored and leave.

  64. candy

    “The two Ricks are genuinely big sweeties Candy.”

    yep, I like Mr Santorum too. On well, it’s a shame.

    The poochie thing on top of the car for 12 hours puts me off M. Romney now, wonder if Americans are bothered. if it was Australia i reckon it would be an issue as we are pet people.

  65. Samson Agonistes

    Mk50 managed to miss the invasion of Kuwait. Otherwise his data proves my thesis, which I perhaps did not make clear enough only applied to post WW2.

  66. Oh come on

    OK, fair enough James. I agree that Romney shouldn’t be praising Obama’s personal attributes.

    However, I don’t think they should overshoot and go strongly negative on this, either.

  67. Tom

    Sinc, I drove my last Merc for 486,000 kms. By the end, nothing except the engine worked (Benz has never made friends with auto-electrics); it was an exhausted piece of shit (my new one is a Kraut goddess). Don’t tempt fate running threads to 1300+ comments. Of course, you can technically run them to 10,000 comments. But the web is a bunch of chaotic crap designed by illiterate techo-neanderals. A long way from the well-oiled machine in Stuttgart.

  68. JamesK

    Obama in Obama’s words – it’s money for jam.

  69. Oh come on

    Candy, don’t be sucked into that idiot trap. The dog had a windshield. Dogs ride in the backs of utes all the time, with no comment from anyone.

    Nor do I care much about Obama having eaten dog (I’ve eaten it myself) and would normally dismiss the chatter about this as being a bit hysterical, but in the circumstances, what’s sauce for the goose…

  70. IT
    Good photo and subtitle just needs the thought bubble above Obama saying “OH not again”

  71. JamesK

    “Say what you want about Romney,” writes Jim Treacher, “but at least he only put a dog on the roof of his car, not the roof of his mouth.”

  72. Oh come on

    No, Kelly, that would make it less funny. Keep driving that cab.

  73. Infidel Tiger

    It just shows you what a clean skin Romney is that the dog on the roof is an issue. He’s too clean for my liking and his non-drinking worries me greatly. At least he’s not a cock gobbling Marxist Kenyan I suppose.

  74. Oh come on

    you forgot crack smoking

  75. Samson Agonistes

    John Howard cuts and runs with an epiphany:

    “You can’t expect democratic miracles in Afghanistan. It’s not going to be like Australia or the US,” he said.

  76. and his non-drinking worries me greatly

    Sounds like I might be suitable for the job if that is an important qualification.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    Kelly XXXX and rice whisky might get you inebriated but they are hardly Presidential.

  78. Gab

    Rigzone, April 17th – President Barack Obama on Tuesday called for increasing penalties on oil speculators and boosting oversight of U.S. energy as part of a plan to crackdown on an “irresponsible few” who rig oil markets.

    Rigzone, April 17th – President-elect Vladimir Putin outlines a highly favorable tax regime for offshore drilling in the Arctic in an attempt to attract foreign companies. The proposals from the Russian government includes abolishing export duty on petroleum products extracted from new offshore fields on the Arctic shelf…

    Heh. Via SMA.

  79. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Sturmabteilung, how nice that you now fully accept my name for you! They were brainless socialist thugs, just like you. They were headed up by a very unpleasant homosexual predator on young lads, Ernst Rohm. I guess you identify with him too, eh?

    Mk50 managed to miss the invasion of Kuwait. Otherwise his data proves my thesis, which I perhaps did not make clear enough only applied to post WW2.

    Actually I just did not bother with what happened yesterday in historical terms. Nice to see that you disagree with your own thesis – Iraq invaded Kuwait, not whitey.

    And your pathetic effort to gather your shredded credibility about you is very, very funny.

    SO the long strategic competition between the Ottoman and Egyptian Empires which caused ~90% of the conflict over this era was somehow whitey’s fault?

    How, the Templar Conspiracy? :lol:

    I like you, you are so stupid it’s hilarious! Guess you pass for a deep thinker in your leftist circlejerk, eh?

    This, folks, is why the left are merely howler-monkeys. They and their ‘arguments’ are as deep as a car park puddle.

  80. Samson Agonistes

    Setttle, UziBoy, youre a long way from the front line to run over any peace protestors in your tank!

  81. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Sturmabteilung:

    Setttle,

    :lol: getting some spittle-flecking on your screen, are we?

    UziBoy,

    Actually, it’s Lee-Enfield .303 Mk III* boy. Can’t you get anything right?

    youre

    Second wave of spittle-flecking on your screen, eh?

    a long way from the front line to run over any peace protestors in your tank!

    Bwahahahahaha! Classic!

    Child, this does not actually make grammatical sense, oh wait, I forgot, you are pitifully ill-educated, and of very low intellectual capacity.

    Poor diddums.

    Back to Green left Weekly with you then. Oh, BTW, it’s no real replacement for a decent education, or for a research library.

    What’s that?

    Oh. Library, big building, lots of books. What, you’ve never been in one or seen one, and the idea is scary?

    Oh, DO dry your eyes and stifle your sobbing, Princess.

  82. Infidel Tiger

    Apparently the fascist molestation squads at US airports don’t like it when you nude up.

  83. Gab

    Apparently the fascist molestation squads at US airports don’t like it when you nude up.

    Ungrateful sods. He was just saving them time.

  84. JC

    People want to know how fucked up accounting rules are at times? They are truly fucked up.

    Here’s an example.

    Bank of America profit slumps 68%

    Bank of America Corp.’s BAC 0.00% first-quarter profit slumped 68% as massive debt-related charges skewed results from the banking giant.

    The bank has spent much of the last year working to slim down and rid itself of the heavy overhang of the U.S. financial crisis. Now, with many of those efforts in action, investors are increasingly looking for signs of earnings power at the giant U.S. bank.

    Bank of America reported a profit of $653 million, compared with a year-earlier profit of $2.05 billion. Per-share earnings, which reflect the payment of preferred dividends, fell to 3 cents from 17 cents a year ago. The latest quarter included, among other items, a $4.8 billion pre-tax hit tied to changes in the value of the bank’s debt.

    Well actually they really didn’t make a loss. They actually made a pro forma pre-tax profit of

    $653 million plus $4.8 billion = $5.45 billion.

    $4.8 billion is an accounting loss which the firm has to take if the bonds it’s issued rise in value. Under GAP rules gains or losses on the bonds the bank has issued have to be taken as either a profit or loss because it assumed he bank can trade in them and if they trade low enough they can make money on the loss of capital value.

    How fucked is that rule?

    The actually result is pretty damned solid and in fact the stock is up 5% in the pre-market.

    Yep, it’s a head scratcher.

  85. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Nooooooo!

    No mention of male nudity, dammit.

    You know it gets the Semenologist from Brisbane excited and Sturmabteilung’s going all… moist.

  86. Gab

    Interesting. Earlier this week Swan was saying we’re in great shape…but Gillard doesn’t hold to that sentiment.

    Her list of excuses for why our economy is not in such great shape under Labor:

    To put it simply: the rivers of gold that flowed into Peter Costello’s coffers just don’t exist anymore… despite the global crisis … despite the uncertainty of the current world economy… the aftermath of the GFC … a structural fall in revenues … federal tax-to-GDP ratio fall … global financial crisis … we don’t have those revenues. … a structural fiscal gap due to write-offs associated with new mining projects … carry-forward of losses accumulated during the GFC … lower capital gains and property taxes as growth in asset values has slowed … structural change towards lower GST receipts as spending moves from goods to services .. the GFC hit … as a result of the Global Financial Crisis … global forces impose restructuring on our economy. … economic climate has changed in fundamental ways…. global financial crisis … rise of Asia … the GFC. … patchwork pressures … epic global forces creating them are just too great.

    Ah well, at least Abbott wasn’t on her list…which is strange, no?

  87. JC

    On the other hand Romney shouldn’t keep saying the President is a “nice guy”.

    Oh yes he should, if he wants to be prez. You need to understand Americans. They are not rude New Yorkers or neurotic Californians.

    They like nice. They are always nice, or try to be and they like their president to be the nicest one of all.

    That’s why Mr. Aspergers (Romney) has to craft an impression that although the prez is a very nice person (as after all the American people voted him in) he’s not handled the job well and is therefore there to take over.

    Someone like me for instance wouldn’t have a hope in the world of ever making it to political office in the US and that’s why Gingrich never made it.

    You can’t say like I would, or others here , that the Kenyan is a dog easting socialist sack of turd and expect to be elected to the highest office in the land. You have to be nice.

  88. FDB

    “Wouldn’t you like to be able to buy a bowl of beef pho from Mrs Tran on your way to work? Or to purchase a refreshing bottle of Bintang from Wayan’s cooler whilst relaxing on the beach?”

    Where do you live?

    Minus the beach, I can do either of these things in inner Melbourne. Althought the beer is both actually cold and actually Heineken.

    Oh, I forgot. Multiculturalism is a horrible nightmare that spells the end of our civilisation.

  89. JamesK

    Obama: “I wasn’t born with silver spoon in my mouth”

  90. FDB

    Perhaps part of the attraction is the poor people pushing carts about.

  91. Gab

    Perhaps part of the attraction is the poor people pushing carts about.

    I don’t share your condescending view of the poor or Asians.

  92. JC

    Oh, I forgot. Multiculturalism is a horrible nightmare that spells the end of our civilisation.

    Fuck you’re a dishonest turd, FDB. No one has ever suggested they have an issue with other races living here. And fuckknuckle, you’re comparing what is pretty much a homogenous race (Malaysia) with the Chinese population thrown in compared to us… an ethnic mosaic.

    Of course people here despise multicult, but you’re actually abusing the right definition of the word (like you were accusing someone else of doing earlier in the week).

    You’re such a dick, FDB. A complete leftwing dick.

  93. JC

    2000 years ago i would have had you thrown to the lions without an ounce of guilt FDB. None.

  94. Multiculturalism is a horrible nightmare that spells the end of our civilisation

    er no, there is nothing wrong with multiculturalism provided you don’t invite a nasty little virus in that has intentions to breed itself into a majority and inflict its brand of religious law on everyone.

    of course the sack of shit socialists here had this bright spark idea that if you invite a lot of communist refugees here they will vote for local communists.

    how fucking dumb do commies get? I mean really they need to introduce a special class of welfare for the people born with a mental handicap that think a free lunch is to be had by all with no one ever having to pay for it. That’s working well for all asswipe socialists, pretty much everywhere isn’t it? Seriously where has this bullshit ever worked?
    What’s the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Clearly as we can see from the masochists here, all socialists have some mental issues.

  95. Infidel Tiger

    Perhaps part of the attraction is the poor people pushing carts about.

    Yeah, these food cart owners are real poor.

  96. JC

    Of course Malaysia has laws “protecting” their own from the Chinese newcomers, which is the fucking opposite of what has happened here under multicult laws and liar FDB wants to hide this fact alone bang people over the head for hating multicult.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    Multiculturalism is a horrible nightmare that spells the end of our civilisation

    True. Multi-racial societies and a diversity of food are pretty cool, but you can stick different cultures up your arse.

    If I want a different culture I hop on a plane.

  98. JC

    Another disappointing employment number for the Kenyan.

    initial Claims: Prior 380k, Market Expects 375k, Actual 386k; Futures Fall Off

  99. JamesK

    Hitler Finds Out Obama Ate His Dog

  100. Gab

    Now this is a car, 2 tonnes worth of good old American steel.

  101. boy on a bike

    The Greentard front group, the National Coalition for Gun Control (which consists of two people and a fax machine) wants to ban paintball.

    Because:

    it is a “legitimisation of the American gun culture”.

    What a bunch of w*nkers.

  102. FDB

    “If I want a different culture I hop on a plane.”

    Welcome to the past.

    Hop on a bus, tram, or train in the present.

    Turns out that it’s just people speaking different languages, eating different foods and wearing different costumes, living near each other. There are other differences, but if you take out the morons who don’t understand that we need to live together, those problems are much easier to deal with.

    There morons are the extremists, who think that their “culture” is the best one.

    You are one of those morons, IT – just as much and in just the same way as those who come here and want to get sharia up and running.

    Local precedence is the only figleaf you’ve got, and if that’s your basis for morality, then unless you’re Aboriginal… fuck off back to wherever your people came from.

    It’s completely absurd to think of global capitalism without different cultures coming to terms with each other and coexisting, in the same place and at the same time.

    Completely absurd.

  103. James in Melbourne

    Son went to a birthday party late 2011, at a paintball range. The kids were too young for paintball, so we used the laser guns that make a sound through a speaker when you have been hit, and when you are officially ‘dead’ for that game. The boys were all 13. The final game for the day involved the boys holding a fort, and the Dads trying to take it, by shooting as many of them as we could.

    It was tremendous fun.

    Because – earth to National Coalition for Gun Control – everything was fake. It was play-acting. I shot my son several times. I stalked him, the light of my life. He laughed as he took me out, sounding like one of Joseph Kony’s kid soldiers. Because it was a game. It was not the legitimisation of the American gun culture, it was a game. Everyone involved knew that it was not real.

    Needless to say, I would not own a real gun or use one for all the tea in China.

    On what planet is the National Coalition for Gun Control? Get a life and get your puerile, undergraduate anti-Americanism out of my face.

  104. Infidel Tiger

    There morons are the extremists, who think that their “culture” is the best one.

    Our culture is the best.* I’ve travelled all over the world and I’m back to report that most of it is a rancid shithole.

    If you consider cultures that lop clitorises off, stone homosexuals and eat dogs as equivalent to ours, then you’re a giant steaming poopyhead.

    * Don’t get me wrong, I still think this dump is a deeply flawed hellhole full of spineless pussies girly men and buttyboys.

  105. daddy dave

    The AMWU has teamed up with a member of the chaser to launch a viral counter-attack against the mining industry.
    They’re voicing over mining industry ads to make fun of the original, then posting it on youtube.

  106. twostix

    Turns out that it’s just people speaking different languages, eating different foods and wearing different costumes, living near each other. There are other differences, but if you take out the morons who don’t understand that we need to live together, those problems are much easier to deal with.

    Lol look at the provincial little left winger who thinks different cultures is merely people eating funny food and dressing differently.

  107. dover_beach

    It’s battyboys, IT.

  108. Turns out that it’s just people speaking different languages, eating different foods and wearing different costumes, living near each other

    Well actually no it’s not. Culture is a lot more than just food, language and clothing, but nice try at moral relativism. Certain cultures are truly repulsive.

    Go do one of the racist tests I posted and see how you fare. They are no longer called racist tests because that’s not PC, they are now racial preference test.

  109. Samson Agonistes

    So what’s your educational level, UziBoy, and why do you show no sign of any research in your rantings?

    Oh, BTW, it’s no real replacement for a decent education, or for a research library.

  110. Samson Agonistes

    And what cultures would these be?:

    Certain cultures are truly repulsive.

  111. Infidel Tiger

    It’s battyboys, IT.

    Oh yes, we have plenty of them too.

  112. Oh come on

    *sigh* ok then, feed the troll

  113. And what cultures would these be?:

    how about the one that condones this

    ask me where I think you should stick your moral relativism. I dare you

  114. FDB

    “* Don’t get me wrong, I still think this dump is a deeply flawed hellhole full of spineless pussies girly men and buttyboys.”

    That odd. I’ve noticed a lot of women.

  115. JC

    And what cultures would these be?:

    Whale Beach lefties blood sucking taxeaters for a start, bob.

  116. FDB

    It’s completely absurd to think of global capitalism without different cultures coming to terms with each other and coexisting, in the same place and at the same time.

    Completely absurd.

  117. Samson Agonistes

    There have been examples of ‘white’ men burning the faces of women with acid in Australia; and the abuse of prostitutes in this country is not unusual.

  118. FDB are you seriously telling us we need to coexist with this?

    follow the link FDB an tell us we need to coexist with this culture

  119. JC

    It’s completely absurd to think of global capitalism without different cultures coming to terms with each other and coexisting, in the same place and at the same time.

    Why? In 1988 before the wall came down we were dealing with Russian banks and making nice money because no one else would deal with them. I didn’t have to like them to transact business with them. In fact I intensely disliked the Russians at the time.

    You don’t have to like someone to do a deal with them, FDB, you stuffed ham.

  120. Samson Agonistes

    Next to no one before 911 gave the slightest concern for women in Muslim cultures, but now middle age men with autism spectrum disorder and an enlarged prostate pretend concern for their welfare! Amusing conceit!

  121. JC

    There have been examples of ‘white’ men burning the faces of women with acid in Australia; and the abuse of prostitutes in this country is not unusual.

    Oh fuck, you really need to go to a retirement home. The men that do that don’t get charged in places like Afghanistan or Pakistani.

    Bob, you really are a first rate dolt.

  122. samson you are fucking moron, too fucking stuborn/stupid to admit that your
    moral relativism is completely fucking wrong

  123. JC

    Next to no one before 911 gave the slightest concern for women in Muslim cultures, but now middle age men with autism spectrum disorder and an enlarged prostate pretend concern for their welfare! Amusing conceit!

    Well you don’t for a start Bob, so that counts you out.

    We never really knew about it before 911, you dickhead. It wasn’t exactly in the daily papers.

  124. Samson Agonistes

    So they don’t have a ‘repulsive culture’ at all, they just have a rotten legal system?

  125. Infidel Tiger

    No it’s a repulsive and a repugnant culture that should be beaten out of them.

  126. Quentin George

    FDB are you seriously suggesting the only differences in culture are language and food?

    Language and food is less than even what separates Australians from Germans, let alone Australians and Somalians.

    You seriously need to spend time with someone from another culture that involves more than picking up a laksa.

  127. FDB

    Coexisting with really bad things isn’t a good idea.

    When people of other cultures do really bad things, we should object strongly.

    But what about when they don’t?

    Like, almost all the fucking time?

    My policy is to object strongly to bad behaviour, no matter what colour the skin of those responsible. No matter to which sky-fairies they bow.

    I’ve found that this policy works pretty well.

  128. Samson Agonistes

    Cultural practices in the Muslim world are in the news after 911 so every time one of how boys urinates on a Muslim, or tortures a Muslim or dances on the corpse of a Muslim we can say, my God, aren’t we civilised and aren’t they barbarians.

  129. Andreas

    So they don’t have a ‘repulsive culture’ at all, they just have a rotten legal system?

    Right, because legal systems have nothing to do with culture at all…

  130. Samson Agonistes

    Spoken like an unashamed racist:

    No it’s a repulsive and a repugnant culture that should be beaten out of them.

  131. Oh come on

    Oh fuck, you really need to go to a retirement home. The men that do that don’t get charged in places like Afghanistan or Pakistani.

    samson you are fucking moron,

    JC, Irving – can’t you see that he’s posting that shit for the sole purpose of getting a response from you? Why are you giving him what he wants?

  132. Samson Agonistes

    Rich and powerful people corrupting the legal and political system to escape punishment is not unusual anywhere in the world.

    Law is a highly intellectual and rational element of culture compared to tribal practices, for example.

  133. Gab

    *sigh* ok then, feed the attention-seeking troll

    Don’t worry, one day Bob will finish posting from that book he got at Christmas – The Regressive’s Guide to One-liners From Socialism, Communism and Fascism.

  134. Samson Agonistes

    This is simply not true.

    C, Irving – can’t you see that he’s posting that shit for the sole purpose of getting a response from you? Why are you giving him what he wants?

  135. Oh come on

    I doubt it. He enjoys making others dance to his carefully selected, imbecilic tune. He will only stop when we stop responding to him.

  136. Samson Agonistes

    The Bierkeller is certainly fulminating against inferior cultures that ‘must be destroyed’ tonight, but the putsch won’t happen if the page loads too slowly.

  137. Gab

    Gemma Jones, Sydney’s The Daily Telegraph March 13:

    EVERY NSW town visited by Professor Tim Flannery or his Climate Commission colleagues for community forums where residents were told they were in a “drying trend” has been deluged by rain up to three times the annual average.

    it’s as if Mother nature is giving Flimflam the finger.

  138. Gab

    Someone else giving the finger a flex:

    THE National Broadband Network model proposed by the Coalition if it wins power would be faster and cheaper to roll out than the $36 billion design being pursued by Labor, Telstra has declared.

    Telstra chief executive David Thodey said that adopting the fibre-to-the-node network – the model favoured by an Abbott government – would be lower-cost and faster than the approach of laying fibre to the home and could result in faster payments to the telco for the use of its infrastructure.

    Mr Thodey also revealed that if the Coalition does take office at the election due next year, renegotiations of a multi-billion-dollar deal that secured Telstra’s involvement in the NBN rollout would “not be significant in the overall structure of the deal”.

    The comments cast a shadow over Labor’s warnings that the Coalition would face an uphill battle to strike a deal with Telstra.

  139. FDB are you seriously telling us we need to coexist with this?

    Irving
    This is where you would like the system in Iran a tooth for a tooth.

    Thank goodness we don’t have a culture like the US where they kill each other at 2 times the rate we do. So in agreement keep such cultures out.

  140. Lucky we have never supported ruthless organisations such as the Bath Party and the Taliban and only offered them support when they were really nice folk in the 80s.

  141. JC

    Lambert adored Monney. Here he is being reported on in the Washington Times.

    Chris Mooney, a self-confessed “liberal.” Yes, he actually admitted to it.

    He has conferred with psychologists to ascertain the difference between liberals and conservatives. By the way, it is always a tip-off when one writes that he has resorted to psychologists, as opposed to political philosophers, to explain what are, after all, political differences. What the writer is saying is we now have “science” on our side, as opposed to mere learning, and the scientists’ findings are unassailable – and, as it turns out, claptrap: tendentious, self-regarding claptrap.

    Now comes Mr. Mooney’s claptrap: “There’s now a large body of evidence showing that those who opt for the political left and those who opt for the political right tend to process information in divergent ways and to differ on any number of psychological traits.” To come to the point, liberals “score higher on a personality measure called ‘openness to experience.’ ” And conservatives, “in contrast, tend to be less open – less exploratory, less in need of change.” We conservatives appreciate “order and structure.” You will recall how open to experience liberals have been when we have attempted to introduce vouchers, charter schools, missile defense and supply-side economics. Liberals are wildly curious about conservative positions on all manner of issues. As for openness, may I suggest you light up a fat cigar, say, in an outdoor cafe, or ride your bicycle without a helmet. See how open our liberal friends are then.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/18/all-the-angry-liberals/

  142. Fisky

    It’s completely absurd to think of global capitalism without different cultures coming to terms with each other and coexisting, in the same place and at the same time.

    Indeed it is. How many languages do you speak?

  143. Oh come on

    Lucky we have never supported ruthless organisations such as the Bath Party and the Taliban and only offered them support when they were really nice folk in the 80s.

    Life is very simple for you, isn’t it, Kelly?

    Saddam was not an American client (he was much closer to the Soviets). OK, the US started arming him when it looked as though he was losing the Iran-Iraq War (about as close as they come to a “perfect war” from an American POV). And when he started winning it, they armed the Iranians. The only regrettable thing about the Iran-Iraq War from a realpolitik perspective was that they both couldn’t lose.

    And we used the Taliban to slay the Soviets. Worth the blowback? I’d say yes – absolutely.

    So no, they were never nice folk. They were useful pawns in a greater game, however.

  144. Fisky

    When people of other cultures do really bad things, we should object strongly.

    But what about when they don’t?

    Like, almost all the fucking time?

    It’s delightful to come across highly-cultured and very well-travelled people with extensive international experience across the entire stretch of Lygon St!

  145. Abu Chowdah

    Next to no one before 911 gave the slightest concern for women in Muslim cultures

    That statement is false. You either are aware that it is false, or what you are saying is that you didn’t notice this issue until a decade ago.

    Just because you are an ignorant, pompous fat fool, don’t assume other share your narrow world view.

  146. Cory Olsen

    Multiculturalism is fine but all ethnic groups including western subgroups to abide by and be subservient to the law of the land.

    No sharia needed – http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/sharia-law-at-work-in-australia/story-fn59niix-1226097889992

  147. kae

    Bob. He reminds me of Sir Les Patterson, without the wisdom.

  148. boy on a bike

    Just read the dead tree version of the SMH. They’ve invented a new rank for the Marines – “Lieutenant-Corporal”. They used it to caption two photos on two different pages. The web edition has been corrected, but it just shows how clueless Fairfax is when it comes to matters military.

  149. Why are you giving him what he wants

    you gota feel sorry for him, obviously the toned black fedex man, is banging SA’s wife and he is here looking for some social justice from his paunchy cuckolded life. But I can see why, SA is a bit of an ugly character and I can’t imagine any women being anything but revolted. Throw him a bone, let him get the angst, hurt and jealousy out of his system. Like all masochists the harder we spank him the better he feels about his sordid existence.

  150. Matt

    Free speech warrior Andrew Bolt wants to ban video games he doesn’t like.

    Bolt is another eltist at heart. The masses can’t be trusted to separate fantasy from reality and need to be protected for their own sake.

  151. Rabz

    Greetings all,

    The CCC™ is convening this evening for some post work beverages.

    For those CCC™ non members in the nation’s crapital, if you’re interested in joining us, please indicate so here and we will provide an email address for further details.

    It will be at a venue in Civic from about 5:30pm onwards.

  152. Cory Olsen

    Bolts a contrarian… no doubt he would advocate for free speech if anyone actually tried to ban video games.

  153. papachango

    Forget the US elections for a sec… French ones are coming up sooner, with first round voting this Sunday and the final round 2 weeks later.

    Unfortunately it’s looking like the left will come back with Socialist Party candidate François Hollande a favourite, Sarkozy may be second but he’s got a fair bit of competition from Marine le Pen – the supposed ‘far right’ but less of a nutjob than her dad. Amazingly they have not one but three sizeable far left parties – the Left Front, Worker’s struggle, French Communist Party etc.

    Jean-Luc Mélenchon of the Leftist front, who basically wants another Revolution, is set to get about 15% of the vote, and will probably do a deal with Hollande a bit like our Labore-Greenslime alliance, but more radically leftist.

    The arrogance of these guys is stunning. Mélenchon wants to ban all shopping on Sunday – he actually said ‘people can shop on Saturday or on Monday and piss off’

    If this is any indication, Europe is basically fucked.

  154. Samson Agonistes

    Europe is back.

  155. dover_beach

    My policy is to object strongly to bad behaviour….No matter to which sky-fairies they bow.

    Except to your own obnoxious behaviour, I see.

  156. .

    The arrogance of these guys is stunning. Mélenchon wants to ban all shopping on Sunday – he actually said ‘people can shop on Saturday or on Monday and piss off’

    Wow.

    These guys are more arrogant than Nero or Caligula.

  157. papachango

    Yes Bolters also disappointed when he came out in favour of Internet censorship, and almost sided with that idiot Conroy.
    I think he came out in favour because many on the left were stridently against (this is before they realised that ceonsorship could be used to shut up Bolt and news Ltd)

  158. papachango

    I’m not kidding Dot. The actuall words were ‘foutons nous la paix’ – literally leave us in peace, but at a level of politeness equal to piss off.

    The thing is, someone who tells a large chunk of the polulation to piss off gets 15% of the vote.

  159. brc

    I skimmed the Bolt Article. To me he didn’t call for a ban. He simply did his thing of begging the question.

    It’s legitimate in my view for an opinion writer to try and get a conversation going about the place of video games in modern society. Plenty of things are banned in the public good, it’s worth having a conversation about whether or not some games fall into that category.

    I would say no, personally, but it’s a conversation that needs to happen.

    Bolt’s argument that the deaths that might be attributable to games (a weak link) falls flat when compared to things that actually do cause death by the thousand and yet are still considered acceptable by society because the reward outweighs the risk.

  160. papachango

    fair enough brc – but for Bolt to even hint about banning / censoring stuff based on a very tenuous link with Brevik massively undermines his campaign for free speech against our chief media censors.

  161. Harrys on the Boat

    Not sure if its been mentioned but The Daily Mash has come up with a term that can easily be applied to Gillard (it was for Pippa Middleton, so a huge difference there).

    Buttock Host Organism

  162. Infidel Tiger

    Bolts a contrarian… no doubt he would advocate for free speech if anyone actually tried to ban video games.

    No he wouldn’t. Bolt blamed the Snowtown murders on the band Live. Yes, the softcock, new age band Live.

  163. Matt

    Plenty of things are banned in the public good, it’s worth having a conversation about whether or not some games opinions fall into that category

    How does that read?

    The whole “x causes violence” meme is hackneyed and Bolt’s pandering to it is sad.

    I remember earlier moral panics – “Dungeons and Dragons causes violence”, “Judas Priest’s music causes violence” etc. etc – all crap of course. We shouldn’t buy into it at all.

  164. Infidel Tiger

    Breivik says he was inspired by Howard, Pell, Widschuttle et al. Bolt says this is nonsense and we should dismiss it.

    Breivik says he played video games and Bolt now thinks it’s a root cause.

  165. Samson Agonistes

    Breivik inhabits the paranoid world of right wing extremists, but the paranoid style in politics is by no means limited to the extreme right. Hofstadter:

    The paranoid spokesman, sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms — he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization . . . he does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated — if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.

  166. JamesK

    Breivik inhabits the paranoid world of right wing extremists

    Which “right wing extremists” and which “world” (let alone “paranoid world”), u stupid bigoted fat bastard?

  167. Bolt now thinks it’s a root cause

    The root cause is plain to see: socialism. It attracts disenfranchised nutters. Its oppressive language of deconstruction, double speak and thoughtcrime invites retribution.

  168. Oh look, our pet lefties have woken up

    here boys. sit! good boys.

    now show us how thick you boys are and say some more stupid stuff, try and channel your inner pol pot

    come on, dont be shy, you can do it

  169. candy

    i reckon Mr Bolt is just trying to put a reason to an unfathomable horrendous crime as he tries to come to grips with it?

    how can you explain or understand a deranged mind that led the murderer to kill around 60 kids point blank really and several times he shot them each.

    don’t think a political philosphy or video game can explain it that’s incredibly simplistic thinking.

  170. Myrrdin Seren

    “LABOR has dumped internationally respected writer-historian Les Carlyon, author of the best-selling works Gallipoli and The Great War, from the board of the Australian War Memorial’s governing council though he was set to be elected the next chairman

    Populist writer Peter FitzSimons, a left-leaning Sydney Morning Herald columnist, was appointed to Carlyon’s position”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/rooted-to-a-tree-fantasy/story-e6frezz0-1226333640125

    Yup – a loon who wears a red bandanna on his head all day long should really make a mark on the AWM governing council.

    Bets on the next institution for Labor to debauch ?

  171. dover_beach

    The reasons for Breivik’s actions begin and end with Breivik. The idea that they lie outside of Breivik, in what he read or watched, is the bankrupt assumption of the mechanical philosophy.

  172. Life is very simple for you, isn’t it, Kelly?

    OCO
    Yes it is, supporting ruthless dictators with arms can’t be justified. The language you use seems that you can excuse any dictator so long as they are on our side at a given time and we have no morals to justify such things.

  173. candy

    “The reasons for Breivik’s actions begin and end with Breivik. The idea that they lie outside of Breivik, in what he read or watched, is the bankrupt assumption of the mechanical philosophy.”

    yep, that’s what i tried to say but i’m not smart enough to put it properly into words, but that’s it, thanks for expressing it like that.

  174. papachango

    I remember earlier moral panics – “Dungeons and Dragons causes violence”,

    Oh gawd there’s a blast from the past. What geeks did before the Internet. I played it a little bit in the mid-80s at school, though not seriously into it. I remember it weasn’t so much a panic about causing violence as being seen as vaguely satanic / occultish.

    Some representatives from the Melbourne uni D&D club decided to give a talk to parents at my school to allay fears and convince them it was all harmless fun. In retrospect, their decision to give the talk in character, dressed in full warlock and gobin costumes may not have been the best one ;-)

  175. Infidel Tiger

    LABOR has dumped internationally respected writer-historian Les Carlyon, author of the best-selling works Gallipoli and The Great War, from the board of the Australian War Memorial’s governing council though he was set to be elected the next chairman

    Populist writer Peter FitzSimons, a left-leaning Sydney Morning Herald columnist, was appointed to Carlyon’s position”

    What a disgrace.

    Carlyon’s best book is True Grit. It captures the magic of horse racing perfectly.

  176. twostix

    Populist writer Peter FitzSimons, a left-leaning Sydney Morning Herald columnist, was appointed to Carlyon’s position

    So now they’re rewarding (unhinged) loyalist journalists with random government sinecures in order to punish the board for not voting for who they told it to vote for – Labor MP Graham Edwards.

    What a great turn.

    Next up Annabell Crab on the board of the RBA.

  177. Infidel Tiger

    The ALP are really salting the earth on the way out.

  178. twostix

    Yes it is, supporting ruthless dictators with arms can’t be justified.

    You were against the Soviet alliance in WWII then?

  179. how can you explain or understand a deranged mind that led the murderer to kill around 60 kids point blank really and several times he shot them each

    actually that is normal leftist behaviour, nothing to explain. just look at all the leftist heavy weights and the mountain of corpses, the moral ground of which they use to stand on.

    There are some interesting letters on the walls of S21 in Phnom Penh from Swedish unionists and citizens praising pol pot’s agrarian socialism. Some even came out and where photographed with the regime. The photos are on display. Children were used as guards on S21, to avoid any talk they were all killed by the next wave of guards. The photos of the underage guards are on display in S21, along with reams of other victims. S21 was a school in the middle of Phnom Penh, during the regime it was transformed into a slaughterhouse and is now a genocide museum.

  180. twostix

    The ALP are really salting the earth on the way out.

    This is just normal behaviour.

    I fear we haven’t even begun to see what they’re going to do in 12 months time when they are actually at deaths door.

  181. JC

    Next up Annabell Crab on the board of the RBA.

    Why not Bob Ellis too. They fired Warwick Mckibbin for noted economist Heather Wipeout, so why not have Ellis and Nanabel on the RBA board?

  182. bruce

    “The reasons for Breivik’s actions begin and end with Breivik. The idea that they lie outside of Breivik, in what he read or watched, is the bankrupt assumption of the mechanical philosophy.”

    Or, ‘mechanically’ we must first look at his upbringing – his family and his peculiar Scandinavian cultural milieu, which should have by far the greatest influence on his formation. Books he may have read or ideas adopted are merely symptoms of this earlier primal ’cause’.

    No emotion at murder, but tears for himself: symptoms of psychosis.

  183. dover_beach

    Just another reason to despise this despicable government, the most malevolent in our history.

  184. bruce

    Sorry I meant to say that Breivik shows symptoms of being a psychopath – no normal empathy for others, only feelings for himself.

    Of course both Right and Left suspect each other of having no human empathy, but in fact all normal people feel it, even for their enemies.

  185. C.L.

    Carlyon dumped for children’s book author, FitzSimons?

    A sick joke.

  186. JC

    Can you just believe it. The secret service moron that caused all the problems and wouldn’t have been found out if he’d done the right thing and paid the gal the 47 bucks… It was this gal he refused to pay.

  187. bruce

    Myself being innately Right wing, when confronted by extreme hostility of some on the Left I do suspect them of being psychopaths. But I guess they are usually just confused and lashing out wildly.

  188. symptoms of psychosis

    No, there is no sign of psychosis. He is perfectly coherent and rational. Read his manifesto.

    He is at wits end to do anything about the self-destructive policies of euro socialists. The only option open to him to enact change in the destructive course they steer Europe towards is to use a language they are familiar with.

    Standard leftist revolutionary rhetoric, bullets and bombs.

  189. Cory Olsen

    IT, I stand corrected. I’m not sure banning WOW would stop Norwegian serial killers though.

  190. Cory Olsen

    IT, I stand corrected. I’m not sure banning WOW would stop Norwegian serial killers though.

  191. bruce

    Yes Irving, self-corrected above.

  192. Samson Agonistes

    Yes, well, trying to separate Breivik from his right wing ideology because he’s a ‘psychopath’ or he is a ‘lone individual’ is understandable given the politics of some here, but the better reaction is to disengage from the ‘paranoid style’.

  193. bruce

    “but the better reaction is to disengage from the ‘paranoid style’.”

    You have the paranoia. Without it you have nothing. Neither style nor substance.

  194. Myrrdin Seren

    So the NY Daily News can track down a Cartagena single mum regretfully supporting herself and kid on the game – now about to be publically named and shamed all over the planet – in under a week;

    and Fair Work (?) Australia can’t figure out Craig Thompsons’ HSU credit card rammbles through the flesh pots of Surry Hills in what, four years ??

  195. bruce

    So Sagnistes, is this a confession of error on your part? You’re moving on to a more constructive career?

  196. Samson Agonistes

    You are familiar with European fascism and nazism, i take it, because there is a right revolutionary tradition of bullets and bombs:

    He is at wits end to do anything about the self-destructive policies of euro socialists. The only option open to him to enact change in the destructive course they steer Europe towards is to use a language they are familiar with.

    Standard leftist revolutionary rhetoric, bullets and bombs.

  197. Maybe Craig Thomson could join the secret service.

    The ALP is at it again throwing money at the dwindling group of supporters by offering more money for people with dementia. Just hope they can remember which party to vote for.

  198. Myrrdin Seren

    Hahaha

    Good one kelly !

  199. candy

    “He is at wits end to do anything about the self-destructive policies of euro socialists. The only option open to him to ..” etc

    seems like psychosis, so cold and no emotion – the kids were just objects to him.

    for him politics and policies have replaced normal human feelings of belonging and love (for some unknown reasons)

    he’s a full blown nutter his mind will crumble in prison.

  200. You are familiar with European fascism and nazism, i take it, because there is a right revolutionary tradition of bullets and bombs:

    good boy! but that was pretty piss weak.

    now SIT! good boy!

    I want you to really dig deep now and maybe channel obama talking about the rich.

    GO!

  201. Myrrdin Seren

    BTW

    Back to Cartagena-gate.

    If I was Mr Secret Service Cheapskate – I think I would rather have taken a bullet from the FARC than be sent home in disgrace to explain to my Scorpio-star sign wife that I had lost my job for screwing-then-shooing Ms Suarez.

    Terrorists are one thing – but hell hath no fury etc etc.

  202. Samson Agonistes

    Hitler’s mind might have crumbled if he was kept in prison, but he wasn’t.

  203. Infidel Tiger

    What sort of hooker doesn’t get cash up front? These South Americans have much to learn about commerce.

  204. Myrrdin Seren

    Ultra-conservative extremists have been blamed for poisoning the drinking water at a high school in north Afghanistan – making more than 150 girls seriously ill.

    Students in the northern province of Kunduz suffered nausea and vomiting and some were left in a critical condition, a government education chief said.

    Radicals who are fiercely opposed to female education may have carried out the attack – the official added.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131526/Afghan-schoolgirls-poisoned-contaminated-water–Radicals-blamed.html#ixzz1sXfhNWGT

  205. Gab

    The ALP is at it again throwing money at the dwindling group of supporters by offering more money for people with dementia. Just hope they can remember which party to vote for.

    lol. But on the other hand, the thought of Gillard meddling in the affairs of the elderly sends a chill down my spine and not in a good way.

  206. Infidel Tiger

    Radicals who are fiercely opposed to female education may have carried out the attack – the official added.

    What a beautiful culture. Try the food.

  207. Token

    If I was Mr Secret Service Cheapskate – I think I would rather have taken a bullet from the FARC than be sent home in disgrace to explain to my Scorpio-star sign wife that I had lost my job for screwing-then-shooing Ms Suarez.

    That agent will be dodging more than Mrs Scorpio.

    If the guy had not tried to cheat the prostitute, no-one would have found out that all the boys on the trip were spending time with hookers.

    I think he will be getting a bit of blow back from the lads who were caught with him, and the lads who
    know they can no longer play up when away any more.

  208. Token

    IT, I stand corrected. I’m not sure banning WOW would stop Norwegian serial killers though.

    Not sure it would do that, but after the roll out in Tamworth it is clear such a ban will kill the business model of the NBN.

  209. Winston SMITH

    IT, MS, I don’t suppose those who think that multiculturalism is a really good idea with lots of benefits would like to put it up for a referendum, would they?

    No, somehow I didn’t think so.

  210. Samson Agonistes

    From Breivik’s psychiatric assessment:

    Without going into the subject’s political judgments, the experts note that his perception of the state of Europe and the state of Norway is extreme. Many of his interpretations and claims are without foundation. However, it seems most of this material is rather an application of existing political currents than a creation of his own, since a lot of it is cut and pasted from various web sites and historical sources. This is to say that his quotes and conclusions are shared by a number of people in Norway and elsewhere in Europe.

  211. Myrrdin Seren

    Winston

    Not having a go here – but I think the fact that your blog monniker is “Winston Smith”, answers your own question as to why the ‘progressive’ political class avoid seeking a democratic mandate for their social agendas like the Plague ;-)

  212. I don’t suppose those who think that multiculturalism is a really good idea with lots of benefits would like to put it up for a referendum, would they?

    Winston
    First it must be given a definition and if that definition contained what I understand as multiculturalism it would get a yes.

    My definition and how it relates to the state.

    The state makes laws for the land from time to time and if a law is passed it will come above all social or religious considerations.

    Question
    Do you want to allow people of a different races or religions to be able to become citizens of Australia so long as they agree to the laws made by any level of government?

    It would suprise me greatly if the majority said no to this.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    Kelly there are many abhorrent social practices other cultures practice that we can do without.

    Just off the top of my head:

    1. Men kissing each other hello.
    2. Ironed creases in jeans.
    3. Eating dogs.

    As you can see I hold no truck for Obama’s depraved cultural habits.

  214. Infidel Tiger

    5. Tracksuit pants worn outside the home or sporting endeavour.
    6. Inability to merge.
    7. Haggling.

  215. Oh come on

    “LABOR has dumped internationally respected writer-historian Les Carlyon, author of the best-selling works Gallipoli and The Great War, from the board of the Australian War Memorial’s governing council though he was set to be elected the next chairman

    Interesting. I got the impression from reading The Great War that he was one of theirs.

    Kelly: I’d say that supporting ruthless dictators with arms so that they can fight other ruthless dictators is a bloody good idea.

    Provoking a war between two enemy states is highly intelligent statecraft. As I said before, the Iran-Iraq war was about as close as it gets to a ‘perfect war’ from an American perspective.

  216. IT
    Fair enough so anyone from a former French colony or currently a territory of France is banned. Also anyone from Eastern or South Eastern Asia should be banned as they might be a dog eater.

    How about the eating of Guinea pigs if we want to keep the Hispanics out?

  217. Oh come on

    BTW, I wouldn’t recommend eating dog. To my taste, it’s similar to pork, but not as nice.

  218. OCO
    I hope you aren’t serious and are just winding me up but if you are that is ridiculous as it will continue a cycle.

  219. Token

    Winston
    First it must be given a definition and if that definition contained what I understand as multiculturalism it would get a yes.

    Unfortunately most people think multi-culturalism is the wonderful range of food they see when they attend their local street fair, or the ability to watch some weird and racey movies on SBS.

    They wouldn’t dare think that it may have something to do with the fact they don’t feel safe using trains past a certain hour.

  220. Infidel Tiger

    Kelly, any club worth joining has strict membership requirements.

  221. Oh come on

    what do you mean it will continue a cycle? You think that, if not for the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam and Khomeini would have sat around a campfire and sung kumbaya?

    No, it was (is) a rough neighbourhood. No ‘cycle’ was started or continued – it was all par for the course, Kelly. Would the Americans have preferred Saddam to hammer the Persians or turn his attention to Saudi Arabia?

  222. Infidel Tiger

    Also anyone from Eastern or South Eastern Asia should be banned as they might be a dog eater.

    The majority of these people do not eat dog. That is a serious slur and if you are a man you will retract and ban yourself from the Catallaxy Files for a period of 3 months.

  223. Matt

    Is Joe Hockey starting his run for the Liberal Party leadership and, therefore, the Lodge?

    Wishful thinking from Michael Pascoe in the Spencer Street Soviet. They really are that scared of Abbott.

    Abbott remains – for all his faults – the best thing the Coalition has going for it.

    Hockey won’t run for party leader and if he did he wouldn’t win.

  224. Oh come on

    PS. I’m deadly serious. As far as wars go, the Iran-Iraq War was a great one. Always a pleasure to see mass-murdering thugs killing each other.

  225. dover_beach

    IT, I’m sorry, but point 6 is far too low in that list.

  226. IT
    I never suggested that most people in those countries eat dog but there is no way to tell if they are a dog eater so better to be safe than sorry.

  227. Oh come on

    Asian countries where dog meat is widely consumed – the Koreas, Vietnam, parts of China, esp in the south…have I missed any?

  228. IT, I’m sorry, but point 6 is far too low in that list.

    My gosh now you want to deport cab drivers.

  229. Viva

    “but the better reaction is to disengage from the ‘paranoid style’.”

    The problem with that approach old boy is that your lot’s “move on folks, nothing to see here” response to out of control immigration in Europe is the opposite extreme to fascist paranoia. Ironically it is the disengagement of the centre left/hard left European elites which drives concerned moderates further to the right as in their frustration there is nowhere else to go.

  230. Winston SMITH

    “Question
    Do you want to allow people of a different races or religions to be able to become citizens of Australia so long as they agree to the laws made by any level of government?

    It would suprise me greatly if the majority said no to this.”

    It would surprise me greatly if the answer was yes. We have more than adequate proof that people who emigrate to Australia from the Islamic culture have no intention of adopting our mores and cultural practises. They have no intention of not living in cultural ghettos. And they have every indication of bringing the destructive culture with them that they profess to want to escape from.
    Our Embassies should be accepting the Copts, Christians and other oppressed minorities from the ME.
    Simple enough for me.

  231. Samson Agonistes

    Iraq attacked Iran, and then America attacked Iraq, but its not surprising you’re ‘deadly serious”:

    PS. I’m deadly serious. As far as wars go, the Iran-Iraq War was a great one. Always a pleasure to see mass-murdering thugs killing each other.

  232. candy

    I see nothing wrong with AFL shorts. quite the contrary.

  233. Oh come on

    Shut up, troll. Who cares what you think, you attention whore.

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