Open Forum: April 21, 2012 at Catallaxy Files

Open Forum: April 21, 2012

925 comments

Written by Sinclair Davidson

April 21st, 2012 at 12:01 am

Posted in Uncategorized

925 Responses to 'Open Forum: April 21, 2012'

Subscribe to comments with RSS or TrackBack to 'Open Forum: April 21, 2012'.

Am I No. 1?

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
Of course I am.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
tell those goils with rifles for minds

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
For pity’s sake.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
aaaaaaaarrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

tell those goils with rifles for minds

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 12:07 am
Pelosi: Amend the First Amendment

“We have a clear agenda in this regard: Disclose, reform the system reducing the role of money in campaigns, and amend the Constitution to rid it of this ability for special interests to use secret, unlimited, huge amounts of money flowing to campaigns,” Pelosi said at her Thursday press briefing

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
Reuters: US jobless data suggests slowdown in job creation

The number of Americans claiming unemployment benefits for the first time fell only slightly last week, suggesting that job growth in April will not improve much after March’s disappointing performance.

Other data on Thursday showed factory activity in the Mid-Atlantic region slowed sharply this month and home resales dropped for a second straight month in March.

Economists viewed the string of weak reports as payback after an abnormally warm winter boosted activity and did not believe that the economy would suffer a repeat of 2011, when growth slowed down sharply in the first half of the year.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:13 am
New photo of Zimmermann’s head on da night of shooting:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/ht_george_zimmerman_head_dm_120419_wmain.jpg

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:16 am
Don’t cry for me Argentina all over again:

Argentina seizes gas firm owned by Repsol

Facing intense criticism over the nationalization of its biggest oil firm, Argentina on Thursday ordered the seizure of YPF Gas, another group controlled by Spain’s Repsol, a move expected to further inflame tensions.

In a case that has sparked fears of a new wave of expropriations, a statement published in the official gazette said the Argentine government was declaring YPF Gas a public utility and taking 51 percent of the shares.

YPF Gas is not technically part of the YPF oil group ordered nationalized this week, leading to global condemnation, but a separate company.

However, an 85 percent stake in the gas firm is owned by Repsol Butano SA, a division of the Spanish energy giant.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
Rabz – if Steve Kilbey knew you had linked to a song of his at a site like this, he would probably cark it on the spot.

Great song though.

FDB

21 Apr 12 at 12:23 am
Australia makes it on Drudge:

Worker injured during sex gets compensation payout

The woman, who cannot be named, challenged the rejection of her workers’ compensation claim for facial and psychological injuries suffered when a glass light fitting came away from the wall above the bed as she was having sex in November 2007.

The woman in her late thirties was required to travel to a country town by her employer, the Human Relations Section of the Commonwealth Government agency.

She arranged to meet a male friend there who lived in the town. They went to a restaurant for dinner and at about 10pm or 11pm went back to the woman’s motel room where they had sex that resulted in her injury.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:24 am
An EU Museum is trying to re brand WWII the European Civil War. Why does the UK even put up with this nonsense. Without the Anglo-Saxon alliance there would be no Europe. Bloody disgraceful lot they are. They might want to look up the definition of civil war while they’re at it.

JonnyDeath

21 Apr 12 at 12:31 am
Homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs, says Iranian cleric

Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli has blamed homosexuals for spread of Aids and says pro-gay politicians are lower than animals

Citing the Qur’an, Javadi-Amoli said politicians who pass laws in favour of homosexuals are lower than animals. “Even animals … dogs and pigs don’t engage in this disgusting act [homosexuality] but yet they [western politicians] pass laws in favour of them in their parliaments.”

Homosexuality is punishable by death according to fatwas issued by almost all Iranian clerics. Until recently, Lavat (sodomy for men) was punishable by death for all individuals involved in consensual sexual intercourse.

But under new amendments approved recently in the Iranian parliament the person who played an active role will be flogged 100 times if the sex was consensual and he was not married, but the one who played a passive role will still be put to death regardless of his marriage status.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
Nite all have a great weekend.

kelly liddle

21 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
Aaah, Iran. What a paradise.

Abu Chowdah

21 Apr 12 at 12:52 am
I love the late riff in Unguarded Moment – very Keef.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 12:54 am
Greg Sheridan preposterously avoids getting mugged by reality on his way to making a case against the slashing of defence spending:

Then there was the second wake-up call, China’s massive military expansion. There is no need to see China in any hostile light, or to think of it as an inevitable threat for the massive Chinese military build-up to be a factor in our military planning.

And it is not only China that is expanding. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute released its annual survey of military expenditure a few days ago. It shows military spending declining in Europe and North America but rising rapidly in China, and, despite a temporary cooling last year, overall throughout Asia.

If all those wiseacres who happily proclaim America’s decline are actually right, then now more than ever Australia needs a respectable defence effort.

Oh right. We’ll spend billions with China in mind just for the hell of it, will we? And which other Asian country is a threat requiring increased defence preparedness, Greg? The Phillipines?

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 1:12 am
Another dog of an own goal:

Oops! Dem Governor Bashes Romney for Polygamist Roots – Forgets About Obama’s Polygamist DAD.

Oopsa-daisy!

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 1:21 am
Quite a good piece on the accuracy of US polls and the reasons given by the Kenyan’s advisers why they are wrong. But their reasons don’t really stack up.

It seems that the Kenyan is relying on a few of things.

1. Holding up the black vote. They are realistic that it simply can’t much higher.

2. Getting more of the Hispanic vote which is flat lined

3. Hoping the white voters aren’t enthused about getting out to vote against him as they were against the Dems in 1010.

The piece suggests he may be right about the white vote, but he’s not about the minority vote.

Even if Gallop is wrong, as Axelrod suggests they may be out but 1 point.

Latest Gallup poll the Kenyan 43 Romney 48. That still leaves 9 points undecided who Morris suggests always break anti-incumbent. This means the Kenyan is smoked.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/20/counting_minorities_are_poll_sampling_complaints_legit_113904.html

JC

21 Apr 12 at 1:27 am
Ha ha! No matter which way the Kenyan’s supporters turn they are walking into booby traps! I hope they’ll be stupid enough to play the “religious nut” card. Please allah let it happen! This election could be seriously entertaining.

Fisky

21 Apr 12 at 2:08 am
New photos have been released showing the back of George Zimmerman’s head minutes after the shooting (link at http://www.halfsigma.com). It was even worse than previously thought, with open gaping wounds gushing blood. So another Leftist lie is demolished. Should the Left be allowed to keep their free speech after being comprehensively shown to have “got their facts wrong in newspaper”?

Fisky

21 Apr 12 at 2:15 am
What a travesty:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/war_and_fitz/

Abu Chowdah

21 Apr 12 at 2:15 am
Coulter really is funny and hits home at times

With logic like that, Republicans eventually had to fight a Civil War to get the Democrats to give up slavery.

Alas, they were Democrats, so they cheated.

After the war, Democratic legislatures enacted “Black Codes,” denying black Americans the rights of citizenship — such as the rather crucial one of bearing arms — while other Democrats (sometimes the same Democrats) founded the Ku Klux Klan.

For more than a hundred years, Republicans have aggressively supported arming blacks, so they could defend themselves against Democrats.

JC

21 Apr 12 at 2:24 am
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-04-18.html#read_more

JC

21 Apr 12 at 2:27 am
It’s Abbott’s fault.. no, it’s Bush’s.

No sooner had Mitt Romney effectively locked up the Republican presidential nomination than President Obama began to sharpen his attacks — on former President George W. Bush.

JC

21 Apr 12 at 2:45 am
Over at Drudge, the Leftist Establishment are now calling for a third party candidate to ~~split the anti-Obama vote~~ “recapture the centre” and “revitalise US politics”!

How predictable. But I don’t think Republican-leaning voters will fall for such an obvious trick.

Fisky

21 Apr 12 at 2:56 am
Uh oh

SPEAKER Peter Slipper is facing explosive allegations he sexually harassed a young male adviser and misused taxpayer-funded Cabcharge dockets in a major new crisis for the Gillard government.
The man who holds the highest parliamentary office in Australia is accused by a key adviser, James Ashby, 33, of making “unwelcome sexual advances” and “unwelcome sexual comments”.
Mr Ashby, in court documents obtained by The Daily Telegraph, alleges Mr Slipper, 62, only recruited him “for the purpose of pursuing a sexual relationship”.
The Australian Federal Police will also be asked to investigate conduct by Mr Slipper in relation to the use of public funds.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/peter-slipper-to-defend-claims-of-sexual-advances/story-e6frfkvr-1226334819088#ixzz1sbJ51ut5

The entire fate of the Gillard government is fastened to the fortunes of Peter Slipper and Craig Thomson. Don’t you love it!

Fisky

21 Apr 12 at 2:58 am
LEAKED STRATFOR EMAILS: Democrats Manipulated The 2008 Election Results

A successful challenge of Obama’s wins in Pennsylvania and Ohio would not have overturned his victory but would have tarnished the subsequent celebratory atmosphere.

Did Mitt Romney Commit Voter Fraud In Massachusetts in 2010?

John McCain’s 2008 campaign staff allegedly had evidence that Democrats stuffed ballot boxes in Pennsylvania and Ohio on election night, but McCain chose not to pursue voter fraud, according to internal Stratfor emails published by WikiLeaks.

In an email sent on November 7, 2008, and titled ” Insight – The Dems & Dirty Tricks ** Internal Use Only – Pls Do Not Forward **,” Stratfor vice president of intelligence Fred Burton wrote:

1) The black Dems were caught stuffing the ballot boxes in Philly and Ohio as reported the night of the election and Sen. McCain chose not to fight. The matter is not dead inside the party. It now becomes a matter of sequence now as to how and when to “out”.

In an email sent two days earlier and titled “Insight – McCain #5 ** internal use only – Pls do not forward **,” Burton wrote:

After discussions with his inner circle, which explains the delay in his speech, McCain decided not to pursue the voter fraud in PA and Ohio, despite his staff’s desire to make it an issue. He said no. Staff felt they could get a federal injunction to stop the process. McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of domestic violence.

The Nov. 7 email also contains allegations that Democrats made a “six-figure donation” to Rev. Jesse Jackson to silence him on the topic of Israel after an October 2008 interview in which he said Obama’s presidency would remove the clout of “Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades.”

Burton, who appears to be friendly with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote:

2) It appears the Dems “made a donation” to Rev. Jesse (no, they would never do that!) to keep his yap shut after his diatribe about the Jews and Israel. A little bird told me it was a “nice six-figure donation”. This also becomes a matter of how and when to out.

The email also refers to an accusation that Obama’s campaign took money from Russia, recalling memories of Bill Clinton’s 1996 presidential campaign when the Justice Department uncovered evidence that China sought to make direct contributions to the Democratic National Committee.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-stratfor-emails-democrats-tampered-with-2008-election-2012-4#ixzz1sbLRVgYb

JC

21 Apr 12 at 3:09 am
Zimmerman’s bleeding head:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/022232.html

Another epic beclowning for the Left.

Fisky

21 Apr 12 at 3:19 am
Interesting…

http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/is-psychology-about-to-come-undone/29045

Abu Chowdah

21 Apr 12 at 5:29 am
http://video.couriermail.com.au/2224436120/Joe-Hildebrands-Labor-rant-on-Sky-News

Have we all seen this? Done this yet?

Marvelous stuff!

Abu Chowdah

21 Apr 12 at 5:43 am
Emigration check in:

Go fuck yourself Australia, Thailand is better in every way.

Yobbo

21 Apr 12 at 5:53 am
Abu, it was beautiful to behold

Cory Olsen

21 Apr 12 at 5:57 am
@Yobbo, in terms of customs ease and speed of entry?

Cory Olsen

21 Apr 12 at 5:58 am
Hilarious, Cory. And accurate!

Abu Chowdah

21 Apr 12 at 6:02 am
Interesting developments re Slipper. Everyone seems to know about Slipper but it never came out. Although the hints about Paddington and Surry Hills Cabcharges were quite suggestive. Although, to be fair, there is nothing wrong with being gay, and that shouldn’t be held against him. Using public finances for his own sexual pleasure, would be a problem if that is the allegation. Of course any kind of sexual predation on any staff member is totally unacceptable.

In other developments I see Eden – Monaro MP is being sued for defamation by Liberal pollsters Crosby and Textor. Looks like war hero, military lawyer, last Australian to hand down a death penalty and supervise the execution, the Hon Mike Kelly MP is in some legal trouble with a real court. After rejecting his efforts to stop the case the court told him to prepare his defence.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 6:09 am
Homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs…

Amazingly, this doesn’t deter the lumpenleftariat from at least passive support of the islamic putsch.
As for the homosexual behaviour in those countries – when nearly every man ahead of you has snaffled four wives, and probably each one younger than the last, younger men may have to Lavat or leave it!

Blogstrop

21 Apr 12 at 6:39 am
Other things I would love to know the answer to:

Where is former Julia Gillard boyfriend, former AWU honcho and alleged fraudster Bruce Wilson?

Why has no journalist ever thought to track him down and ask what Julia knew and when she knew it re the alleged AWU fraud?

Is Bruce Wilson alive? If not, how did he die?

If he is in hiding, what does he have to fear? Why is he in hiding?

How many other prominent Australian politicians have had a former partner with a ‘colorful’ background disappear like Bruce Wilson?

What happened to the money in the bank accounts Gillard set up for Wilson?

You would think that tracking down Bruce Wilson and getting an interview with him would be a great story.

Channel 7 was able to find Tony Abbott’s former lover and find Abbott’s possible love child.

But no one can find Bruce Wilson. Is anyone even looking? If not, why not?

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 7:12 am
This is very unfair. Even what should be Coalition sex scandals do harm to the Labor Party!

The way things are going, a front page story showing Abbott, Hockey and Bishop naked in bed would somehow hurt Gillard.

Steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 7:18 am
John, your links aren’t working. Review your technique.

Steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 7:21 am
John.

Steve’s not being particularly helpful.

You’ve just forgotten the colon in “http://”

duncan

21 Apr 12 at 7:24 am
how is that Steve?

Surely you remember the story.

Re your issue re Slipper and the Libs. This really is disgusting if the Libs covered it up. I read the hitting on the staff allegations to have occurred since he became Speaker. The issue from the Lib era seems to be covering up travel rorts and that they did not want to investigate whether he was Gay or not. If so, it is wrong re travel expenses but is fair enough re the Gay angle. Who he sleeps with consensually is none of our business.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 7:31 am
I read it that a woman in his office showed one of howards advisers a video of slipper cuddling another male staffer – apparently mutual. If so, who cares?

Abu Chowdah

21 Apr 12 at 7:35 am
In honor of JamesK

My lucky number’s one

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 7:37 am
JamesK,
In German

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 7:41 am
If what this guy says is true (that Slipper is, at the very least, a bit of a sex talking sleaze with staff) it would a bit surprising if this hadn’t come up with some other staff while he was with the coalition.

Making staff uncomfortable by sleazy talk and innuendo is just asking for trouble, and has been for a few decades now.

Steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 7:48 am
Anyone know why Bunyip hasn’t posted since Tuesday morning and, against a specific undertaking to do so, hasn’t explained why? He’s been crook recently. Maybe he has just had an attack of the futiles?

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 7:51 am
Steve,

No one seems to have come forward from Slipper’s pre Speaker period in the Libs. That might change, but at this point there is only one allegation.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 7:52 am
Tom,

It is a bit of a worry – he usually posts a notice if he’s ducking off for a while.

Hopefully he’s fine and working on another scoop!

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 8:00 am
wind farms – monuments to stupidity…

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 8:02 am
WTF!!

The New South Wales Government will ban bikie colours in licensed premises in Sydney’s Kings Cross as part of a range of measures targeting outlaw bikie gangs.

Bikies will also be banned from working in tattoo parlours, with legislative changes set to give the police commissioner the final say on whether a particular person can own the business….

…Bikie members are also banned from working in the tow truck industry, in security and in casinos.

I expect Milne to vigorously defend the rights of this minority.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 8:09 am
Tim Blair’s moderation is hilarious!

big dumb fu

21 Apr 12 at 8:09 am
What’s the rationale from banning bikies working in tattoo parlours? How will they practically enforce this?

big dumb fu

21 Apr 12 at 8:12 am
Perhaps they prefer ” plain packaged ” motorcycle enthusiasts.
To protect the kiddies, of course.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 8:20 am
“If I had a dog, it would look just like the dog Obama ate.”

Dogs Against Obama.

You know it makes sense.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 8:30 am
Tim Blair’s moderation is hilarious!

It’s awesome.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 8:36 am
I see Steve us in partisan turd mode today.

Why did Slipper defect from the Coalition Steve? Unlike Gillard & Labor acted over Thomson, the Coalition parties were acting to hold him to account.

To stay in power Gillard took ownership over Slippery Pete.

Token

21 Apr 12 at 8:39 am
seems unusual that a good looking 30 year old homosexual man was unaware an older homosexual might have had designs on him when offering him a job repeatedly.

he shared a flat with slipper and said he thought it was just part of the job, and gave him a massage, like that’s what you do for your boss?

gays know who’s gay or not by instinct, he would have been aware. harrassment is still harrassment tho.

candy

21 Apr 12 at 8:40 am
JamesK,
In German

John, I think I may have rooted her once.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 8:46 am
Spot, can you tell us whose work that is? It must have taken days.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 8:50 am
Spot, can you tell us whose work that is?

No, I can not. Or may not. One of those.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 8:52 am
I suspected you were responsible. You are one awesome dog.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 8:55 am
Spot! I’ve been concerned about your absence here. Glad to see you haven’t been anywhere near the White House.

“Dogs Against Obama” pics are just beaut.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 8:57 am
If you want to hear how utterly insane and deranged Mel Gibson can sound, you should really listen to the secret recording Eszterhas released a couple of days ago. (There’s a transcript and a recording here – you have to hear it to get the full effect. Don’t have the kiddies sitting next to you while you listen, though.)

Why on earth would anyone agree to work with or for him in any capacity?

Yet he still has his defenders here.

steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 9:04 am
James, no waaaaaay. Get out a here!

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 9:06 am
It coulda bin her twin

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 9:16 am
Guinness isn’t always good for you

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 9:17 am
Guinness isn’t always good for you

No you’re lying.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 9:18 am
Anyone know why Bunyip hasn’t posted since Tuesday morning

I’ve had a look and this is so. Good to see another fascistic fool hitting the dirt bin where he belongs.

hammygar

21 Apr 12 at 9:22 am
fascistic fool

Be eternally grateful you are surrounded by democrats who don’t hunt you down and lynch you. You again validate why you are the only hateful troll who Bunyip has banned.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 9:31 am
She has a twin? Looks like shes gone Hindu

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 9:32 am
The Bunyip ain’t no fascist, you ponderous, suicidal scumbag.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:33 am
“How Engineering the Human Body Could Combat Climate Change.
By Ross Andersen.

From drugs to help you avoid eating meat to genetically engineered cat-like eyes to reduce the need for lighting, a wild interview about changes humans could make to themselves to battle climate change.

Some of the proposed modifications are simple and noninvasive. For instance, many people wish to give up meat for ecological reasons, but lack the willpower to do so on their own. The paper suggests that such individuals could take a pill that would trigger mild nausea upon the ingestion of meat, which would then lead to a lasting aversion to meat-eating. Other techniques are bound to be more controversial. For instance, the paper suggests that parents could make use of genetic engineering or hormone therapy in order to birth smaller, less resource-intensive children.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/how-engineering-the-human-body-could-combat-climate-change/253981/#.T16mK1xzYS4.email

Ellen of Tasmania

21 Apr 12 at 9:35 am
Thanks for that Ellen, but it’s old news.

And yet more evidence, not that we needed any, that greenies are stark raving totalitarian nutters…

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:40 am
Breaking news: feminists hate little breasts and fancy hair on toys for girls.

A FEMINIST group is up in arms over a new line of LEGOs they claim hypersexualises girls with its curvier female figures…

The new “LEGO Friends” were rolled out in December and features LadyFigs, curvier takeoffs on the traditional boxy LEGO men, as part of the product line designed to appeal to girls…

“They have little breasts and they have fancy hair. And it just disturbs us that this is the image that they want girls to see,”

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 9:43 am
A feminayzee group is up in arms over a new line of LEGO

Oh, FFS…

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:52 am
Hang on, the Barbie fantasy was once big bazookas and small hips. Now it’s small breasts? Bit like the UN’s zombie CO2 theory: hot weather is a sign of it, but so is cold weather. My theory is that feminists just don’t like women. In case you hadn’t noticed, cultural self-loathing is very popular these days, especially on the Left.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 10:03 am
They don’t like women who get in the way. They’re not about equality, they are about trying to establish matriarchy. This sounds crazy until you deal with the batshit ones.

In NSW we had a female sovereign, viceroy, Premier and Deputy Premier.

Yet we still had taxpayer funded crap about sexism as a function of patriarchy.

.

21 Apr 12 at 10:14 am
The media can find self-proclaimed spokespeople to complain about anything.

It makes for an interesting story about nothing in particular, and of course when its a political story you make one side of politics chuckle.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 10:17 am
Sweet Jesus “Lego figurines anatomically incorrect”, fuckwits.

I checked it out. One’s a vet, one’s a designer and the other one is a scientist and the other two I don’t know.

These plastic block people are better role models than the whole feminist movement.

.

21 Apr 12 at 10:19 am
Rabz,

Yes, I know it’s a bit old, but I thought it sort of fitted in with the dog-eating and climate stories recently posted.

Ellen of Tasmania

21 Apr 12 at 10:24 am
The combination of what are essentially make your own dolls with Lego construction kits seems a considerable advance on the usual fare for girls, so I don’t think self-proclaimed feminist objections will go anywhere.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 10:24 am
From Samizdata – another case of disappearing comments:

Paul Marks of this parish commented on an article in the Economist called ‘A lament for America’s Jews’…

…whereupon the magazine deleted it.

However, for your edification and as if by some black internet magic, here is that deleted comment…

Do you not ever fear your nose growing Lexington? Or your pants catching fire?
You know perfectly well that the “mentors” who got Comrade Barack into Columbia and Harvard were not “Zionists” (not even “liberal” ones).

At Columbia his room mate was Sohale Siddiqi. William (Bill) Ayers worked just down the street at Bank Street College of Education (and he and Barack went to the same Marxist conferences – continuing Barack’s Marxism whilst at Occidental – and his the work of his true “mentor” in childhood the Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis).

Bill and Mrs Ayers are the pals of Hamas (part of the unholy alliance between Marxist atheists and radical Islamists — that is so much a feature of the Hyde Park area of Chicago, where both Bill and Barack went to live – of course Frank Marshall Davis was a Chicago CP member till he was ordered to go off to Hawaii).

A teacher and friend of Barack at Columbia was Edward Said (not known for his Zionism). They (and Bill Ayers) continued to be friends after the Columbia years.

And Harvard?

Barack got in because of the letter by Percy Sutton (the attorney of Malcolm X – who Barack’s mother had so admired)

And then there is Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour (again not known for his Zionism) – who started off as Donald Warden.

And on and on…

Lexington, a genuine question… Do you really believe we are so stupid or so ill informed that you can get away with pretending that Barack Obama has a “Zionist” background?

I really want to know.

Do you despise us (the readers) so much, that you believe you can blatantly say things that are untrue (that you must know are untrue) and we will not even notice?

Barack Obama was elected in 2008 because the “liberal” (again I rather think Gladstone and so on would dispute your definition of the word “liberal”) media managed to hide the truth from most voters – and substitute a tidal wave of “Journo-list” disinformation in the place of the truth.

I assure you that the same trick will not work twice.

Before November most people will know Barack Obama for who and what he really.

… the comment taking form once more like some vengeful revenant risen from that un-quiet place where deleted comments supposed slain by a moderator go, reaching through the screen and grasping ‘Lexington’ by the throat.

boy on a bike

21 Apr 12 at 10:30 am
I checked it out. One’s a vet, one’s a designer and the other one is a scientist and the other two I don’t know.

Perhaps if the Lego Girls were dressed in burqas there’d be no feminazi outrage.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 10:37 am
In NSW we had a female sovereign, viceroy, Premier and Deputy Premier.

The first two without any real power, the next one hounded out of office by a vicious anti-woman, xenophobic campaign conducted by the media. Interesting that Keneally had the makings of an excellent premier and was starting to make real headway before she was dumped.

hammygar

21 Apr 12 at 10:43 am
the next one hounded out of office by a vicious anti-woman, xenophobic campaign conducted by the media.

Hahahaa

What a load of codswallop. The Left never ever take responsibility for their actions. It’s always, always somebody else’s fault. They’re never inept, incompetent or corrupt. Nooooooo.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 10:48 am
before she was dumped.

… by the electorate, you moron. It’s a prerequisite for membership of the squealing banshee left to believe that most people are stupid.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 10:52 am
I’m sure some enterprising drug lord can whip up something that makes everyone absolutely drool at the sight of a rare steak.

Then we can spike the falafels.

duncan

21 Apr 12 at 11:11 am
Greg Sheridan claims that, while Deputy PM, Gillard did not attend any cabinet National Security Committe meetings.

“Gillard returning country to deep neglect of military”

Now it looks as though she will cut $1Bn from next years defence budget.

Is she mad, or treacherous?

Will Kane

21 Apr 12 at 11:13 am
… before she was dumped.

Yeah, the voters will do that. Can’t trust those proles!

blogstrop

21 Apr 12 at 11:15 am
Remember the big greentard/leftwing panic-meme of the 1960s and 1970s?

The dreaded malthusian ‘Population Bomb’ (to quote that cretin Ehrlich.

Well, hilariously, the Communist Chinese believed all that crap. So as well as the usual socialist policies (death camps, slave labour camps, murdering millions etc etc etc) they brought in the one child policy.

Now we get to watch as a major civilisation shows us two things:
1. How dumb it is to take the socialist road (episode 156).
2. What happens when you ACT on a greentard/leftists panic-meme like ‘overpopulation’ or ‘global warming’.

DEMOGRAPHY: China’s Achilles Heel. “Over the past 30 years, China’s total fertility rate—the number of children a woman can expect to have during her lifetime—has fallen from 2.6, well above the rate needed to hold a population steady, to 1.56, well below that rate (see table). Because very low fertility can become self-reinforcing, with children of one-child families wanting only one child themselves, China now probably faces a long period of ultra-low fertility, regardless of what happens to its one-child policy. . . . In 1980 China’s median (the age at which half the population is younger, half older) was 22. That is characteristic of a young developing country. It is now 34.5, more like a rich country and not very different from America’s, which is 37. But China is ageing at an unprecedented pace. Because fewer children are being born as larger generations of adults are getting older, its median age will rise to 49 by 2050, nearly nine years more than America at that point.”

The 4-2-1 problem is going to severely damage Chinese culture.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 11:20 am
The first two without any real power, the next one hounded out of office by a vicious anti-woman, xenophobic campaign conducted by the media. Interesting that Keneally had the makings of an excellent premier and was starting to make real headway before she was dumped.

We voted the ALP out of power after 16 years because we hate women?

No, what we hate is how all it requires in the ALP is to have a vagina.

This is not selection on merit. The ALP is actually very sexist – select women as tokens to frame the debate over bigotry and not policy.

They have no faith in their own women and not selecting on merit has sent women’s lib back 30 years or more.

.

21 Apr 12 at 11:22 am
Making staff uncomfortable by sleazy talk and innuendo is just asking for trouble, and has been for a few decades now.

Incredibly, this was posted by Steve.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 11:25 am
No, what we hate is how all it requires in the ALP is to have a vagina.

This is not selection on merit.

They get rid of an elected PM before his first term was completed. That’s pretty big stuff, heavy stuff for the population to swallow and be comfortable with…what to do…what to do….a female PM. Australia’s first female PM. That’s the ticket. oooh look over there – shiny stuff.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:33 am
Mk50 No one knows what will happen when this explodes. They have inverted the family tree and dramatically chopped out all the females along the way so there is also an oversupply of boys. Now usually when you have an oversupply of young men you put them in the Army and they go and conquer themselves some land with some women.

BUT these are the most spoilt kids in history and the parents and grand parents will be relying on these guys to take care of their retirement needs. How will this play out in a land with an old population, short of women and no social safety net all in an aethistic communist dictatorship. I see a mix of Soylent Green and widespread euthenasia for body parts sales of healthy older Chinese. Whatever happens the unintended consequences of the one child idiocy will be spectacular, unpredictable and brutal.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 11:34 am
Oooh, handspanker is back.

And it is as stupid as ever. I can feel a fisking coming on!

The first two without any real power,

WHy yes, handyspanker, yes. That’s because the constitutions mandate that. Have for the last century or so. Perhaps it’s about time you caught up with events only a century or so old, eh?

the next one hounded out of office

Shorter handyspanker: Curse that democracy thing!
I always love it when a scumbag totalitarian dirtball like handyspanker reveals itself with a comment like this.

by a vicious anti-woman, xenophobic campaign conducted by the media.

Bwhahahahahahahahahaha! And this is even better. It’s DELIGHTFUL when filthy leftard turds like handyspanker blame anythiong else but their own policies, venality and corruption for losing power. It means they cannot learn the lessons they have to to regain it.

Interesting that Keneally had the makings of an excellent premier and was starting to make real headway before she was dumped

.

And exculpatory fantasies like this add to their delusions. Kenneally was as venal as the rest of them. The only thing she made progress on was her cut from the poor old NSW taxpayer in increased parliamentary pensions.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 11:38 am
Pelosi on Americans not paying income tax: ‘I wish they would earn more so they can pay more’

Addressing the percentage of taxpayers who do not pay any income tax, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said these Americans have “skin in the game” since “they pay payroll taxes,” adding, “I wish they would earn more so they can pay more.”

“Well, you know, they do pay taxes. They pay payroll taxes. And this is a tactic that the other side uses to make it sound as if these people are not paying taxes. They are paying taxes. They do have skin in the game. And I think that that should be respected,” said Pelosi at the Capitol Thursday.

“I wish they would earn more so they can pay more, and that’s what we’re about, the creation of good-paying jobs in our country that contribute to our international competitiveness to keep America number one.”

In 2009, 51 percent of American taxpayers did not owe any income tax. The number reportedly dropped to 45 percent in 2010.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 11:39 am
John Comnenus – absolutely.

There is no precedent for this in north Asian history. The aftermath of the Taiping Rebellion comes close demographically in a very few places. What happened there was that the expanding Han populations elsewhere simply moved in. End of issue.

That can’t happen when the entire civilisation is blighted like this.

Socialism has created a situation in China that is unprecedented in human history as far as I can tell.

God knows what will happen, but I suspect even He is shaking His head at the sheer wilful stupidity of this.

We only know it cannot end well.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 11:43 am
3 years today since my Radical Prostatectomy. No EF but I’m alive and well. Alarms were set off when my PSA numbers began to rise 9spiked) alarmingly.

So lads, continue to have regular PSA Blood Tests (one of the indicators) to ensure your continuing good health.

mike

Mike of Marion

21 Apr 12 at 11:48 am
Mk50,
And the Eurotrash have the same problem but from a different perspective. They have the same inverted family tree but with a bloated social security system. No one will be left to foot its operating bills, let alone pay off the debt the greedy Eurotrash baby boomers racked up and stuck to those in the workforce now. The Eurotrash baby boomers are perhaps the most disgustingly greedy generation in all human history. Selfish doesn’t come close to explaining what they have done. We need to fight to keep the Eurotrash disease from taking hold here. 10 out of 10 to Joe Hockey for his London speech.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 11:53 am
Incredibly, this was posted by Steve.

Are you on my staff, now, CL? I must find demeaning things for you to do for me.

steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 12:03 pm
“twinks or bears”?? We can now safely say federal Labor has caught the NSW disease (or at least had it defect).

Personally, I’m surprised there is still so much room for skeletons in Slipper’s closet.

H B Bear

21 Apr 12 at 12:32 pm
Alleged question ruled out of order:

Slipper: “Have you ever c*** in a guy’s a*** before”?

Ashby: “That’s not the kind of question you ask people, Peter”.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
“The criticism that Abbott is Mr Negativity misunderstands his strategy”. Through subtle changes in his position in the past two years, Geoff Kitney has established himself as the only Fairfax writer in the Canberra Press Gallery capable of rational, independent thought. P.63, AFR today (paywall).

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 12:38 pm
Paul Erlich was neither leftist nor green, and he was right about over-population but wrong about the capacity of humans to adapt and prosper.

Neo-malthusianism may even make a comback given the rise in food prices.

Remember the big greentard/leftwing panic-meme of the 1960s and 1970s?

The dreaded malthusian ‘Population Bomb’ (to quote that cretin Ehrlich.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 12:40 pm
Democrats issue their 2012 bumper sticker…

No, it’s not a send-up – it’s real:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/04/we-arent-as-bad-as-the-other-guys.php

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 12:41 pm
Neo-malthusianism may even make a comback given the rise in food prices.

Well that would take care of the obesity “epidemic” then. Jeez you lot whinge about everything and never see the upside in anything.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 12:45 pm
Errr, voila! AFR paywall down. Kitney.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
Pink batts scheme ahead of its time:

Climate Alarmist Calls For Burning Down Skeptics’ Homes.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 12:50 pm
The Malthusian world was largely changed by the astonishng productivity boom of the Industrial Revolution; next port of call was mass contraception, especially in the 3rd world. We’ve finally succeeded with the Catholics, especially in Europe (zero pop. growth), and even in Ireland. Now, we’ve just gotta mop up in Africa, parts of Asia and Latin America.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 1:04 pm
Will Sydneys Gay mardi gras end up like the Toronto fetish fair?
Is this a photo of M0nty calling himself Crystal Chandelier?
I think his calves give him away.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 1:04 pm
Riyadh: Saudi Arabia beheaded and crucified a Sudanese man in Riyadh on Friday after he was convicted of raping, robbing and killing a woman, the interior ministry announced.

They seem to have the order of punishment the wrong way around, but it is gruesome whichever way you look at it.

steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 1:11 pm
The 4-2-1 problem is going to severely damage Chinese culture

culture? what culture? the communists have destroyed all chinese culture, it has a population in everyone for themselves survival mode.

Irving J

21 Apr 12 at 1:12 pm
John Comnenus

And the Eurotrash have the same problem but from a different perspective. They have the same inverted family tree but with a bloated social security system. No one will be left to foot its operating bills, let alone pay off the debt the greedy Eurotrash baby boomers racked up and stuck to those in the workforce now. The Eurotrash baby boomers are perhaps the most disgustingly greedy generation in all human history. Selfish doesn’t come close to explaining what they have done. We need to fight to keep the Eurotrash disease from taking hold here. 10 out of 10 to Joe Hockey for his London speech.

Yes.

This is why current times are so fascinating. We are seeing the beginning of the collapse of the welfare state.

It was always going to happen and was predicted as an outcome of the Beveridge Report as early as 1944. But liberal western capitalist democracy certainly proved amazingly resilient and long-lived in the face of the rampant parasitism of the welfare state.

Now the parasites have overwhelmed the host, and the system is crashing. Greece is merely the first major crack.

The utter fools of Europe tried to become immigrant states to cope with the demographic collapse the welfare state helped cause and this decision has been disastrous for them. These were societies which simply did not have the assimilation mechanisms of the world’s only five immigrant societies (Australia, USA, New Zealand, Canada, Israel). Oh they tried hard but the cultural mechanisms and public policy systems just were not there. And the effort was thoroughly poisoned by the evils of cultural relativism and moral relativism as well. The outcome has been predictable – ghettoisation of the unassimilable and their consequent radicalisation. That just is not going to end well.

It is now clearly to be seen that Enoch Powell’s famed ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech (text here) was prophetic. What he discussed in that speech has come to pass.

Let us hope that in one way he was wrong:

“As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood.”

Because the Aeneid, Book 6 was not wrong about that, I see wars, horrible wars, and the Tiber foaming with much blood: that came true.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 1:21 pm
“Are you on my staff, now, CL? I must find demeaning things for you to do for me.”

Quick, CL – rush off to FWA – Steve has just admitted he wants to commit a proscribed action!

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 1:21 pm
For instance, the paper suggests that parents could make use of genetic engineering or hormone therapy in order to birth smaller, less resource-intensive children

interesting, these same fascists, erupt into violence when you genetically modify plants, but modify people and they are all for it

Irving J

21 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
Crikey full bore admonishing Murdoch Papers over Slipper news.

Mike of Marion

21 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
Because the Aeneid, Book 6 was not wrong about that, I see wars, horrible wars, and the Tiber foaming with much blood: that came true.

Yes, it is a pity Enoch did not source his material better. Still he was a bit of a drama queen. More a shoplifting spree than blood foaming and horrible wars.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 1:25 pm
Mk50, many of Europes problems are evident in our big cities in places like Auburn and Bankstown in Sydney. These are places I knew well as a child which I now wouldn’t venture in alone in e evening, let alone at night.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 1:26 pm
interesting, these same fascists, erupt into violence when you genetically modify plants, but modify people and they are all for it

Human beings have been doing it since the dawn of time. It’s called ‘sexual selection’.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 1:30 pm
The most retarded commentator on this thread to date, handyspanker:

Paul Erlich was neither leftist nor green, and he was right about over-population but wrong about the capacity of humans to adapt and prosper.

Not a leftist?
he’s a registered democrat and “is active in Green and other environmentalist efforts”
and he’s at Stanford FFS.

Not a green?
- he holds multiple prizes from WWF and Sierra Club
- he’s active in green and other environmentalist efforts
- he wrote ‘The Population Bomb’ at the suggestion of David Brower the executive director of the environmentalist Sierra Club.
- WHen John Simon questioned his later work The End of Affluence in Science, Ehrlich questioned the peer review process then entered and lost the famous bet with Simon.

Ehrlich: The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate

Yeah, like that happened, handyspanker. And you reckon he was right? Those are the opening words of The Population Bomb.

Oh, yeah. Ehrlich made a lot of money off his catastrophist fantasies. And guess what? he’s done the same with glowball warmenating. He’s a fraud, a shill, a charlatan, a spiv, he has been consistently wrong in everything he predicted for forty years, and you still believe him, you gullible idiot.

Thanks for proving in your own words once again that you are a total cretin.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 1:37 pm
Marko: the homeless troll is basking in all the attention you’re lavishing. Like all dumb animals, he’ll eventually go elsewhere to fossick for scraps if you don’t feed him.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 1:46 pm
Wow, it will be fascinating to watch how the Rock Choppers react to their superiors allowing gay and lezzie rabbis. When even the Jews are no longer scared of Leviticus, what is left in it for the papists?

http://www.smh.com.au/world/conservative-jews-to-allow-gay-rabbis-20120421-1xddo.html

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 1:49 pm
Still he was a bit of a drama queen.

- Peter Patton on Enoch Powell

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 1:54 pm
Well rivers of blood was a bit excessive; bit like pillars of salt, and all that, eh?

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 1:57 pm
So Breitbart didn’t die with cocaine (or anything else) in his bloodstream.

That’s boring.

steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 1:57 pm
I swear I was about to post the prediction that somebody in the government or the love media (BIRM) would screech “homophobia” as a defence for Julia Gillard’s Speaker.

Voila:

UPDATE II. The Ten network’s Paul Bongiorno:

Ah the smell of homophobia in the morning’s news. Consenting adults? Spurned or jilted lovers anyone?

Blair: “What the hell, man?”

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 1:58 pm
If you want to laugh yourself silly, go here and read the reviews.

My sides are aching.

An example from a happy user of Veet hair removal gel!

Warning – don’t get distracted, 18 April 2012
By Gelert – See all my reviews
This review is from: Veet for Men Hair Removal Gel Creme 200ml (Personal Care)
I’m not particularly hairy downstairs but now that I’m approaching middle age my genital foliage is very course and unsightly, resembling a well worn Brillo pad. My wife on the other hand has a luxuriant thatch of long fine fur like that on a mink or similar small carnivore but with fewer teeth. It’s also very dark. From a distance it looks like she’s been hit between the legs with a bag of soot. So, for us, position one in the Karma Sutra is out of the question. Should I go in too far in my attempt to take Captain Pickard to warp speed; our pubes can lock together like the Velcro fastening on a Barbour jacket.

We are thus obliged to adopt the position favoured by my pet lurcher when he encounters herbivorous quadrupeds (he has orientation issues regarding species as well as gender – we live in Wales). Any attempt to copulate face-to-face can have us pogo dancing around the bedroom like conjoined twins in search of a pair of scissors to cut away the entwined spider’s legs and spring onion roots. As you can imagine there is little variation in our sex life. I once tried rodeo sex; mounted her doggy style and yelled out the name of my ex and tried to say on board as long as I could. I longed for a bit of the old missionary.

My wife is very fond of her welcome mat and spends considerable time stroking and grooming it so any hair removal had to be undertaken by me. Shaving is out of the question as the stubble that returns after four or five days gives her a nasty rash on her chin. The smooth finish promised by Veet seemed to be the answer to our prayers.

Having read the warnings we decided that it would be best to have her assist in the application of the Veet gel. Being cautious she put on a rubber gloves and set about her task at arm’s length using the handy spatula supplied. We then had to wait six minutes. That is a hell of long time when you’re butt naked and your wife is kneeling in front of you wearing a broad smile and a pair of Marigolds. Needless to say we got distracted. She laid back, opened the hanger doors and I commenced docking procedure with the command module. After about six minutes, just like is says on the box, the old Brillo pad came away and attached itself to Osama’s beard. Sadly, by this time our activity has spread the Veet to other areas and the effect was becoming corrosive. Fortuitously, my wife had already filled a washing up bowl with cold water as a precaution so I was able to jump off and lie over the bowl with my gentlemen’s vegetables dangling in the cooling liquid whilst she ran screaming for the bathroom. I haven’t seen her react like that since I dipped one of her dildos in chilli powder.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 1:58 pm
And flouncing around, shouting in everyone’s face, that Oscar Wilde was a Roman Catholic is really getting up into Enoch nose-bleed territory for drama queening.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 1:59 pm
PP, what are you on about?

Powell, being classically educated, used a quote from the Aeneid which every educated person understands to be a warning of potential danger from ill-considered policy.

The MSM of the era was much like now, ill-educated, after a cheap gotcha, lazy, worthless and incompetent. So they spun it as waaaaaycist.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 2:08 pm
Oscar Wilde was a Catholic convert and attended and loved Mass (the real, Catholic, one) at Oxford. He even travelled to Rome where for an audience with Pope Pius IX. He died a Catholic – and we’re happy to have him.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 2:09 pm
Lenore Taylor, the Fairfax zombie who puts the diss in disinformation, reckons complete annihilation looms for Labor … loss of up to 30 of the ALP’s 72 federal seats in the Reps. Just doesn’t get what’s going on in the world. If what happened in Qld (largely as a result of almost identical trust issues) is repeated federally, Labor will be left with just 11 seats. Gillard has only a few weeks after the budget to show signs of life, but a leader change changes nothing. The air tax is the killer. Taylor is snorkeling on a distant reef.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 2:10 pm
Wow, it will be fascinating to watch how the Rock Choppers react to their superiors allowing gay and lezzie rabbis.

With a yawn?

When even the Jews are no longer scared of Leviticus, what is left in it for the papists?

I doubt Leviticus plays an important role in this respect for Catholics.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 2:11 pm
And you joined him along the yellow brick road, didn’t you Dorothy, or were you the lion?

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 2:12 pm
Typo:

Shaving is out of the question as the stubble that returns after four or five days gives her a nasty rash on her chin.

He means his chin, surely.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 2:13 pm
The Luuurrrvvvv Mass!!!! ROFLMAO. Oh, now THAT’s camp. Don’t tell me – Dress: frocks and red stilletos

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 2:14 pm
CL

Oh, and pssssstttt…best you get back to your copy of the Canon Law, and stop this Rock Chopping by Wikipedia nasty habit you’ve picked up.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 2:16 pm
I called you out a coupke of weeks ago for being a hater of Catholics and Catholic clergy, PP.

And you’ve been proving me right ever since.

Good job.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 2:17 pm
Is this where Slippery Pete got his pick up lines from?

Splatacrobat

21 Apr 12 at 2:18 pm
Ah, sista Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary, how does YOUR chin grow? Every second day, I’d say.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 2:18 pm
Peter isn’t the first bitter homosexual denialist re son of the One True Church, Oscar Wilde.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 2:19 pm
Oh da paw widdl, Roman Cathwik being victimised and oppwessed.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 2:21 pm
Labor survived the 2010 election by the skin of its teeth because, in the wake of the Global Financial Crisis, voters rated it the best party to run the economy.

More insightful commentary from Jabba over on that dumping ground for News Ltd hacks, The Punch.

Let’s hope Gillard’s Aged Care plan kicks in soon. There’s an old, decrepit journalist who is clearly having some problems coping with reality.

H B Bear

21 Apr 12 at 2:23 pm
MK50, that link had me crying tears of laughter. Thanks!

boy on a bike

21 Apr 12 at 2:25 pm
Connors River dam gets the Federal nod, bout friken time, the turtle’ll love it too.

It’s only a baby but it’s a step in the right direction.A fly over.

Newman recent comments make Traveston closer to fruition.
Too late for the next dry spell (inevitable) after 3 good wets.
But should be ready to fill in time for the next wet ( despite Flannerys BS)

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 2:27 pm
Sad:

The New York Post reports:

A lost Keith Olbermann wanders aimlessly around Central Park.

Unemployed, perennially confrontational talking head Keith Olbermann aimlessly wandered around Central Park South earlier this week, seemingly looking for a friend or a purpose.

Our spies snapped unflattering pictures of Olbermann decked out in a giant red pullover and clownishly baggy jeans as he strolled 59th Street near Seventh Avenue, smelling the roses — or, in this case, the horse manure, allergens and aromas from a nearby food cart.

Spies said dejected Olbermann parked himself on CPS and stared into space for several minutes before slinking off by himself.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 2:29 pm
BoaB

Just finished all 11 pages of reviews.

I think I’ve pulled a few muscles laughing. Crowd-sourced comedy, it’s dangerously hilarious.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 2:35 pm
Lenore Taylor, the Fairfax zombie who puts the diss in disinformation
Lenore, George, Barrie and Laura are just some of he reasons Insiders has this year finally fallen off the viewing schedule. Sick of it. Malcolm Farr’s not much better, but sometimes has a humorous turn of phrase. When they can manage a more balanced approach (as if!) we might give it another go, but the same applies to 4 Corners and Q&A most of the time. It was recounted in that IPA panel program with Steyn by John Roskam recently that during his half hour (once a fortnight!) with John Faine, people ring or write in complaining about the conservative takeover of the ABC. The IPA can get away with a panel full of conservatives, but the so-called National Broadcaster should be above reproach on panel stacking and compere agendum driving – but obviously never will be.
Bolt’s show needs to go for longer, or cover less subjects but give each topic a bit longer, which I think he’s trying to do. The half hour less ad breaks is a bit limiting.

blogstrop

21 Apr 12 at 2:37 pm
Now it looks as though she will cut $1Bn from next years defence budget.

Is she mad, or treacherous?

IS this a trick question?

nilk

21 Apr 12 at 2:38 pm
Her chin, CL.
His stubble regrowth was the problem with shaving.

kae

21 Apr 12 at 2:39 pm
Friend of mine years ago used veet to defoliate.

Phone rang in the middle of the waiting time.

She answered the phone and ended up with a mohican.

kae

21 Apr 12 at 2:40 pm
Kae, I nearly collapsed as I was laughing so hard at the one where he says ‘it seemed a bit potent so I diluted it with deep heat and drain cleaner’.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 2:43 pm
Just came across this poignant anecdote:

John Derbyshire ends his The Endless Pursuit of Happiness with a de Gaulle anecdote:

The de Gaulles had a daughter, Anne, afflicted with Down syndrome. De Gaulle adored her, but as often happens in such cases, Anne died young. At her graveside when the service was over, de Gaulle turned to his wife and said: “Come. Now she is like the others.”

There are also less poignant and more humorous anecdotes in the above article too.

H/T: Maverick philosopher.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 2:50 pm
My kid Sykped me earlier there is a huge commotion in her street with NYC cops and FBI people everywhere blocking the street.

Like something out of Law & Order they are there digging up the basement of what is now a top apartment building in the area.

In 1979, a 12 year old kid went missing on the first school day of the year and he was never sighted again. The superintendent of the building is now the prime suspect. Dunno if he’s still alive.

JC

21 Apr 12 at 2:58 pm
This seems to be the story.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Jackhammers-used-in-search-for-missing-NYC-boy-3496482.php

JC

21 Apr 12 at 3:02 pm
Like something out of Law & Order they are there digging up the basement of what is now a top apartment building in the area.

Maybe IT is Law & Order – SVU. Is Mariska Hargitay around? puuurrrrr!!!

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 3:03 pm
Bolt’s show needs to go for longer, or cover less subjects but give each topic a bit longer, which I think he’s trying to do. The half hour less ad breaks is a bit limiting.

Strop, Bolta’s TV show was conceived as, and still is, counter-propaganda as a reaction to the whacko bias of most of the rest of the available media commentary, especially on the tax-funded national broadcaster. Bolt presents well, as he has the necessary photogenic quality, but he can’t escape his in-your-face conservative bias. He also constantly, rudely breaks in on his guests whenever they interrupt the narrative in his head. It will have a long-term future as useful current affairs (e.g., being able to survive next year’s change of government) only if Bolt heads a permanent panel of interviewers and another talking head takes over the hosting — a total revamp of the 10-11am Ch 10 Sunday slot with the same sharp Bolt-produced dissection of issues. Bolt has been very successful so far ratings-wise, but most of that is the result of Bolt’s ability to break down the issues into short digestible segments that avoid becoming esoteric abstractions. And, yes, 24 minutes of content is way too truncated.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 3:08 pm
MarkL there is a clip on u tube of Sir Les Patterson telling a yarn about using that stuff on lady pattersons “schnauzer”".

Dig it up if you like. I can’t at the moment.

Pickles

21 Apr 12 at 3:09 pm
the so-called National Broadcaster should be above reproach on panel stacking and compere agendum driving – but obviously never will be

Quite right. The ABC and SBS will always reflect the biases of those who are running it. Normally, whoever controls the funds, runs the organisation. But the luvvies have convinced us that the ABC and SBS must be independent, so the politicians have lost control of the organisation. Howard showed the limit of the pollies control when he appointed people to the Broad who where going to bring more balance. He choose good people, but they have no power.

It’s time to hand both rotten organisations over to the luvvies AND MAKE THEM PAY FOR IT.

Privatise the damn things!

johno

21 Apr 12 at 3:13 pm
Conservative Jewish Seminary to Allow Gays to Become Rabbis

The Schechter Rabbinical Seminary, affiliated with Israel’s Conservative Jewish movement, announced it would begin accepting gay and lesbian rabbinical students in Jerusalem this fall. The decision late Thursday ended a rift with the Conservative movement in the U.S., which began accepting gay and lesbian rabbinical students in 2006 and ordained its first openly lesbian rabbi last year…..

Israeli law gives exclusive jurisdiction over the ordination of clergy, marriage and divorce to Orthodox rabbis, who generally consider homosexuality an abomination. The Orthodox rabbinate here has strenuously resisted inroads by the liberal streams, refusing to recognize their rulings, conversions or ceremonies as religiously valid.

The decision to ordain gay and lesbian clergy drew fire from the ultra-Orthodox community.

“In my opinion, it’s a grave mistake,” said Shaar Yeshuv Cohen, the chief rabbi of the northern city of Haifa. “It’s a violation of the Bible.”

There was no formal comment from the chief rabbinate, but an official there, speaking on condition of anonymity, noted that only the Orthodox chief rabbinate can ordain rabbis in Israel.

Unsurprisingly ‘Poisonous Pete’ thinks this latest American liberal jewish insignificance is all about the Catholic Church

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 3:21 pm
American catholic bishops predictably double down on lefty-liberal naive-stupid despite recent leftist beatings:

After pope’s trip, Catholic bishops seek end to Cuba embargo

Richard Coll, a policy adviser to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said lifting the embargo has been the bishops’ “long-held policy” for at least the last 20 years, but actually traveling to the country made the issue real for Pates and other prelates.

The embargo should be lifted, Pates wrote, so that “greater support and assistance may be provided to the ordinary citizens” of the country.

The bishop said he saw the relaxation of travel restrictions to Cuba in 2011 as a move in the right direction, but said a complete withdrawal of the restrictions and the lifting of the embargo would help the country “in achieving greater freedom, human rights, and religious liberty.”

“It’s the right thing and the correct thing to do,” Coll said.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 3:30 pm
Jumpmycar, traveston was a poorly sited dam. It had nothing to do with the turtles and amphibians, it is a shallow silt plain that was chosen simply because it was in cooey of Brisbane but most importantly, was entirely within a national party electorate. A mate of mine who went to work on it at the beginning (in the head office) was shown a map of electoral boundaries and told ” Now Bruce, I know you might have some other dam sites in mind, and they might be good, but all you need to know is the boundaries on this map” (word for word, name has been changed).

Personally I’m hoping Newman revives wolfdene dam to stick it in Rudd’s face, who with Goss killed it off in 1990. The land was resumed and everything. Deeper dam, close to the all the development on the gold coast, southern brisbane, Ipswich and Beaudesert. People always forget the cost of shipping water to where it is needed, and Logan is a long, long way from Traveston. And of course, if Wolfdene had been built in the early 1990′s there would not have been a SEQ water shortage problem in the last decade.

entropy

21 Apr 12 at 3:33 pm
James

If as you say, you are not religious, why all this knob-gobbling of the Roman Catholics and their pagan Ponitifex maximus? Yuk! Fucking YUK!

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 3:34 pm
Dem Senator Doesn’t Know If He Will Vote For Obama

Sen. Joe Manchin says he’s unsure whether he’ll vote for his party’s leader, President Barack Obama, or the likely Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

In a statement Friday, the West Virginia lawmaker said he had “some real differences” with both leaders, finding fault with Obama’s energy and economic policies while questioning whether Romney could understand the challenges facing ordinary people.

Minchin is up for re-election this cycle.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 3:38 pm
Eric Fehrnstrom tweet:

At Red Sox game, President Obama comes on big screen to recognize Fenway’s 100th anniversary, followed by loud chorus of boos.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 3:40 pm
James

If as you say, you are not religious, why all this knob-gobbling of the Roman Catholics and their pagan Ponitifex maximus? Yuk! Fucking YUK!

It is quite unnecessary to be religious in order to find ur disgusting bigoted sectarian anti-catholicism repulsive Peter.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 3:43 pm
Are, so you ARE a papist.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 3:49 pm
It’s interesting that you papists just can’t get enough hating every other “ism” under the sun.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 3:50 pm
James

Shall I go back through your own posts to find a beacon of tolerance, and never a hint of the bigot? Or shall I find a shameless deluded liar? And did you attend a Roman Catholic school? Particularly an Irish one? NTTAWWT. It’s just research, you see.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 3:52 pm
Can somebody ban Peter, please? He’s destroying the thread.

Fisky

21 Apr 12 at 3:54 pm
PP – what on earth has gotten into you?

Dude, it’s not the 17th century any more.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 3:56 pm
Destroying an Open Thread?

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 3:56 pm
Entropy, d’ye know of any site/links with some details of the Wolfenden Dam project?

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 3:58 pm
Puerile Pete, Gerard Henderson regularly attacks the rampant anti-catholic and anti-semitic bigotry currently long in vogue with sundry leftist nutters, national broadcasters and Fairfax.

Presumably Hendo is an atheist papist.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 3:58 pm
Mark

I know that. I’m merely engaging a tiny bit of pushback from all the infestation of religious crap under the guise of ‘libertarianism’, which has slowly taken over the Cat. To be fair, it’s been happening for about 12 months now, but it only ‘clicked’ for me a couple of months ago. Roman Catholicism = liberalism. And in fact, it is the ENEMY of liberalism. We fought the true road to serfdom – the papacy – so why let them back in through the back door (he he, so to speak).

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:00 pm
James

Hendo is a tedious pox on our polity. He should marry Robert Manne.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:02 pm
Mk
http://wivenhoesomersetrainfall.com/new_page_7.htm

kae

21 Apr 12 at 4:02 pm
George Zimmerman granted $150K bail for a murder charge

At a hearing that legal experts said exposed flaws in the state’s case, the Trayvon Martin special prosecutor failed Friday to convince a judge that gunman George Zimmerman should stay locked up.

The judge set bond at $150,000, meaning Zimmerman could be freed from the Seminole County Jail in a few days.

Most revealing in the hearing, though, was testimony by prosecution Investigator Dale Gilbreath, a surprise witness for the defense.

He admitted under oath that authorities do not know who started the fight between Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, and Martin, the black 17-year-old whose death has spurred protests across the country.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 4:04 pm
Hendo is a same-sex divorced atheist papist now according to Peter.

Peter you need therapy.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 4:06 pm
And might I add, my pushback is infinitesimal, compared to the deluge of Roman Catholic huckstering here. It’s not hard to go back back and count the rosary. The fact that my tiny intervention rankles some is very telling of this truth.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:08 pm
James

What do I care about “Hendo”. He’s an old fuddy-duddy from the Cold War. While he was cold warring, I was watching Humphrey B Bear.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:10 pm
And I should hope we are ALL same-sexed, lest we be hermaphrodites.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:11 pm
I used Hendo to rebut the meaningless of your facile ‘argument’ Peter.

Whether you “care” for him or not is irrelevant.

You still have no answer to my challenge to that logical fallacy.

I’m bored with ur blind stupidity evident on this topic.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 4:17 pm
“So Breitbart didn’t die with cocaine (or anything else) in his bloodstream.”

You sound like some student Doctor who complains that Ceasarian Sections are boring. “He was murdered” …… BORING says Steve. Boring and trivial to you maybe. But the matter had some importance to Breitbart.

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 4:17 pm
I won’t be shutting up, PP.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 4:18 pm
Oh, and James. “Hendo” is a fucking Roman Catholic, you dork!

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:19 pm
You even have to infest things further with more and more Rock Choppers, while you claim to be advancing an atheist argument. Dude, take your own advice, and Get Thee to a Nunnery! (or what you people call ‘therapy’)

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:21 pm
db

No doubt. And?

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:21 pm
Besides, db, you are not part of the Hate Catholic Mafia.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:23 pm
See the bombers fly up

Sinclair Davidson

21 Apr 12 at 4:24 pm
Hate Catholic Mafia? When did that happen?

Tal

21 Apr 12 at 4:25 pm
Oh, and James. “Hendo” is a fucking Roman Catholic, you dork!

No he isn’t.

He was brought up in the Caholic tradition.

He’s famously an atheist.

Why do you pile on with the stupidity Peter.

You’re better than this.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 4:26 pm
PP – why do you hate Catholics?

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 4:28 pm
Tal

I don’t know when, but they hate everyone and everything, coz apparently they’re now victims and oppressed. CL is now even going into bat for fag sodomite Oscar Wilde coz he’s deluded there’s a chopping connection. Psssssstttttt…Pope to CL. You can’t baptise someone who’s already a baptised Xian.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:29 pm
Peter, you were banned here a few years ago for this very same behaviour.
Do you want the same thing to happen again?

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 4:31 pm
Well I didn’t get the memo.
Let’s fire up the Crucades then

Tal

21 Apr 12 at 4:35 pm
PP,

Let it go mate!

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 4:39 pm
I’m pretty sure Henderson always says he’s agnostic, not atheist.

It’s an important distinction, I think.

steve from brisbane

21 Apr 12 at 4:43 pm
Ah, here it comes, the Chop On.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:45 pm
ANTHONY ALBANESE: Mr Slipper, I believe, has done a very good job as Speaker. That’s been acknowledged across the spectrum including by his former Coalition colleagues.

QUESTION: Yet these allegations won’t go away. How embarrassing is it for your government [indistinct]?

ANTHONY ALBANESE: These aren’t allegations against anyone in the Government. These are legal proceedings which have begun. It isn’t appropriate to comment on the detail of legal proceedings of which obviously I have no knowledge.

QUESTION: Have Federal Police investigated his alleged misuse of Cabcharges?

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Well, we think it’s a good idea that the Federal Police be allowed to determine their actions free of political interference.

QUESTION: Is there an internal investigation into the alleged misuse?

ANTHONY ALBANESE: I have no idea.

QUESTION: Other senior people in companies, et cetera, though would stand aside while this was dealt with. Why is it different in Federal politics these days?

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Those issues are a matter for Mr Slipper. There are legal proceedings underway. That’s what the newspaper reports indicate this morning. On that basis, it’s important that we recognise the separation between the judicial arm and the political arm of the state.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 4:46 pm
for this very same behaviour.

For exposing Phil as a trannie. Er, you’ll find that this is now a cat catechism.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:47 pm
Tal

Let’s fire up the Crucades then

Sista Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary has been keeping that one alight since she first turned up here on every single thread. No need for anybody else to join in.

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 4:49 pm
See the bombers fly up

One hundred years of hatred can do that. We deserve to have our arses kicked for the next seven days – by Rats and everyone else. Mentally weak. Dons now red-hot faves for Anzac Day like Blues were today. Let’s see how you handle the pressure.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 4:53 pm
Gab the Crusader, I must say, I hadn’t noticed.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 4:53 pm
Zimmerman killed the only witness that could contradict his story, but the fact is that he was stalking someone so he is the aggressor.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 4:54 pm
See the bombers fly up

You might have waited until the end of the telecast, Sinc. One more reason not to like Bombers supporters.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 4:55 pm
DB – I did. Watched it on Fox.

Sinclair Davidson

21 Apr 12 at 4:57 pm
Make that another reason.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 5:08 pm
[PP - OTT. You're into moderation. Sinc]

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 5:11 pm
Now watching replay on 7 – wonder who’ll win?

Sinclair Davidson

21 Apr 12 at 5:11 pm
You can’t baptise someone who’s already a baptised Xian

You can confirm them.

.

21 Apr 12 at 5:16 pm
So when Pete asks one of his aides to polish his knob, he is not referring to the ceremonial mace?

Splatacrobat

21 Apr 12 at 5:20 pm
dot, to what was PP referring to? I arrived after Sinc swang Damocles sword.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 5:23 pm
Now watching replay on 7 – wonder who’ll win?

Ah Sinc, you do love to rub salt into open wounds.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 5:24 pm
Peter, some of us think that the heritage of the Catholic church really did help the liberty of the European barbarians along, since it meant that “Ceasar And God” had separate spheres. Or might we say that the concept of brute force had a serious competitor whose influence stretched across the territories of various Princes, Emperorers, Usurpers, and upstarts. To have a competing authority may have helped make us Europeans, the success story we became, (up until recently that is.)

Also there is a reservoir of scientific and philosophical excellence in the catholic church extending back around around 800 years, a sub-sector of which may have been superior even to the Greeks.

I think the point of criticism of the Catholic church ought to be more about the stronger networks that may have infiltrated and corrupted the church in the modern era. Pedophiles and white-anters aren’t necessarily upwardly-mobile as the natural course of events. More powerful external influences may be pulling the strings.

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 5:28 pm
What’s the sin, Sinc?

[Your behaviour has gone very erratic. You sort yourself out and come back when you're better. Sinc]

Peter Patton

21 Apr 12 at 5:28 pm
but the fact is that he was stalking someone so he is the aggressor.

m’bob, u are full of shite.

Zimmerman took the witness stand and it wasn’t even the trial.
Most revealing in the hearing, though, was testimony by prosecution Investigator Dale Gilbreath, a surprise witness for the defense.

He admitted under oath that authorities do not know who started the fight between Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, and Martin, the black 17-year-old whose death has spurred protests across the country.

Dershowitz Blasts Zimmerman Prosecution: ‘Not Only Immoral, But Stupid’

“I’ve had cases in Florida against prosecutors,” Dershowitz said, “and this is not the first time they have willfully omitted exculpatory evidence. It’s a continuing problem. Here, it’s not only immoral, but stupid. The whole country is watching. What do they benefit from having half-truths in an affidavit?”

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 5:50 pm
DB – yay, bombers win on 7 too.

Sinclair Davidson

21 Apr 12 at 5:52 pm
Wake up call for the Blue Baggers and the hype should hopefully die down now. I prefer us to be flying under the radar.

Well played Essendon.

tbh

21 Apr 12 at 6:11 pm
entrophy & kea re dams, thanks.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 6:13 pm
Sinc, I was surprised by the ease of the win. Methinks all the talk about the Blues was a little premature. Wed will be interesting.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 6:24 pm
DB – very surprised. I tipped the blues and the pies should win on Wednesday. Very happy to be wrong.

Sinclair Davidson

21 Apr 12 at 6:51 pm
To any Rugby League fans out there, the first under 20s State of Origin is on Fox Sport 2 at 7:30.
The pre game blab is on now.
Should be good.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 7:06 pm
Roman Catholicism = liberalism. And in fact, it is the ENEMY of liberalism. We fought the true road to serfdom – the papacy – so why let them back in through the back door (he he, so to speak).

Ahahahahaha.

In fact, the papacy played the pre-eminent role in destroying the worst totalitarian tyranny in human history. John Paul II makes Hayek look like a stay-at-home. And he was doing it from the days when Polish communist thugs with guns were trying to stand over him in his Krakow office. In Australia it was B.A. Santamaria and Daniel Mannix who did ALL of the heavy lifting to destroy the worst domestic threat to liberty in the country’s history.

Yellow old poofs like Peter and libertarian fairies did nothing for liberty in either case, of course. The Catholic Church did it.

A simple ‘thank you’ will suffice.

We won.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 7:23 pm
Is Mariska Hargitay around? puuurrrrr!!!

You know she’s a woman, right Peter?

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 7:26 pm
The Solidarnosc workers’ movement brought Polish Communism to its knees.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 7:29 pm
The Solidarnosc workers’ movement brought Polish Communism to its knees.

Not just Polish communism but the USSR

The central role played by the Catholic Church and particularly by its then – leader, the Polish Pope John Paul ll and the deep involvement of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and the person of Lech Walesa

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 7:37 pm
Thats the attitude we were looking for.

But lets not be blind to potential internal problems. John Paul II is my hero. But what about the others? Have some of them been promoted with outside influence and for unrighteous reasons?

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 7:40 pm
The pre-eminent role in bringing down Jaruzelski was played by Wojtyla – who organised Solidarnosc (inter alia). The pre-eminent role in bringing down the USSR in toto was played by John Paul II.

I love that the Church has a large chunk of the Berlin Wall in the Vatican gardens. The might of the USSR… reduced to a garden gnome.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 7:47 pm
Thats the attitude that we were wanting to sustain. MORAL and sentimental force over brute physical violence.

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 8:03 pm
Will Swan deliver a surplus?

Australia gives $7b to Europe bailout fund

http://www.news.com.au/business/australia-gives-7b-to-europe-bailout-fund/story-e6frfm1i-1226335084303

How close are we to the credit limit?

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 8:24 pm
Why the hell are we bailing out Europe?

big dumb fu

21 Apr 12 at 8:30 pm
We aren’t bailing out Europe. We are simply subsidising banker thieving. If you speak about the matter in the most clear English that you possibly can then the questions you may wish to ask answer themselves.

Its all about exploitation and the hegemony of parasitism.

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
Who can name a democratic country who chooses to control its borders to stem the flow of illegal economic immigrants from a corrupt and poorly run neighbour?

India’s border fence – and its vehement defence of it – exists for all manner of reasons, real and imagined.

India sees this imposing barrier as a panacea against the evils it believes lurk across the border, from the very real problem of people smuggling, to the less-likely threat of Islamist terrorists, to the speculative future problem of a millions-strong refugee tide coming from Bangladesh.

…Already the Indian government believes it is burdened by between 10 million and 20 million illegal economic migrants from Bangladesh.

It fears millions more Bengalis will flood over the border if their country’s economy continues to founder, and those numbers will multiply if the projected impact of climate change leaves tens of millions in low-lying Bangladesh homeless or foodless, displaced by disaster or without arable land to sustain them.

Token

21 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
“Will Swan deliver a surplus?

Australia gives $7b to Europe bailout fund”

In light of this is it really credible that the shadow government conspiracy DOESN’T reach all the way down here? You tell me? I don’t know. But we need to understand a world in which the actions of Wayne Swan make some sort of sense.

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 8:49 pm
That Eric Holder is one effective operator:

DOJ Refers Reporter to Site Accused of Antisemitism Over Fast and Furious

Token

21 Apr 12 at 8:53 pm
PP banned and massah boidy still hangin’ in there.

Semi momentous events, indeedy!

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
But we need to understand a world in which the actions of woine goose make some sort of sense.

No, we don’t.

We simply need the unintelligible, utterly embarrassing imbecile removed from public life.

It ain’t that difficult, peopleses!

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:03 pm
Total Commonwealth Government Securities
on Issue – $228,426m consisting of:
Treasury Bonds – $195,988m
Treasury Indexed Bonds – $15,819m
Treasury Notes – $16,600m
Other Securities – $19m
As at 20 April 2012
Updated weekly, face value amounts rounded to the nearest million.
Securities on issue subject to the limit under the Commonwealth Inscribed Stock Act 1911 total $223,839 million.
There’s your answer, jumpnmcar. They are redefining it. There has been an eleven billion dollar drop in the balance sheet in the last week.

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 9:04 pm
They are redefining it.

Well, knock me down with a goose feather – who’da thunk it?!??!

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:06 pm
Why the hell are we bailing out Europe?

Euromoney anointed him World’s Greatest Treasurer so the $7bil is worth it, no?

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 9:13 pm
President Obama: “Dog Eater,” the Music Video
(apologies to Hall & Oates)

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
If that was true Rabz, his colleagues would have stopped him. Nothing good comes from failing to recognise our overlords, or the possibility that northern hemisphere overlords may have too much weight down here.

One cannot rebel and win or be granted ones freedom if one doesn’t so much as know who ones enslavers are.

Doc Simmons

21 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
Well. That wasn’t awkward at all.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/just_rudd_being_popular/

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 9:20 pm
Looks like the labour unions will have even more power if Obama gets re-elected.

President Obama’s re-election campaign is straining to raise the huge sums it is counting on to run against Mitt Romney, with sharp dropoffs in donations from nearly every major industry forcing it to rely more than ever on small contributions and a relative handful of major donors.

Token

21 Apr 12 at 9:22 pm
Labour unions – power – america – pardon me while I get up off the floor laughing.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 9:26 pm
And the article also says the huge corporate slushfunds are flowing toward Romney, so we can expect another GFC further down the road.

Samson Agonistes

21 Apr 12 at 9:31 pm
Brilliant article via Instapundit:

Hype and Hypertrophy: How Lamborghini Lost Its Man Card.

It’s about the death of Lamborghini, obviously, but the prologomena about “real men” is brilliant. He starts by acknowledging that real “real men” are usually inconspicuous, even the most rugged combat veterans.

I don’t see too many of them on the rare days when I darken the door of my local “Urban Active”. Instead, I see over-muscled steroid cases, covered with as many scary-looking tattoos as they could finance, grunting, throwing weight around, and engaging in copious public displays of ass-hattery. They have skulls on their shirts, or bandannas on their heads. Their entire posture is designed to intimidate. They are often fans of MMA, an activity which simulates street fighting for people who have managed to avoid actual street fights their entire lives. Often they are cops or volunteer firefighters, endlessly braying about the dangers of their profession to anyone who will listen.

It occurred to me many years ago that the Venn diagram of “actual bad-asses” and “people who spend all their time trying to look like bad-asses” has a very low overlap. The actual “man’s work” of the world — winning wars, building businesses, feeding families, protecting the weak from the strong — is generally accomplished by men who can’t bench three hundred pounds. That’s not how Hollywood likes to play it, but that’s the way it is.

RTWT. Which is actually about cars.

C.L.

21 Apr 12 at 9:39 pm
Instead, I see over-muscled steroid cases, covered with as many scary-looking tattoos as they could finance, grunting, throwing weight around, and engaging in copious public displays of ass-hattery.

Yep. There are so many aspects of modern life that just so totally suck ass.

Having such hideous douchebags as those described above sully my view of the world is one of them.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:46 pm
Yum.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:48 pm
Thank you CL, Rabz.
Yep.
Douchebags all of them.
Those who have been there don’t need to display.

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 9:52 pm
Thank you again, Rabz.
I’d bench press that 60 kilos.

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
Coroner says Breitbart died of heart failure – nothing bad in his system.

link

lefty heads explode

pete m

21 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
Gunners V Chelski…

Sod off, mafiosovich!

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
Breitbart died of heart failure

No prescription or illegal drugs, no foul play, BA at 0.04%.

Still so sad he’s gone.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
I’d bench press that 60 kilos.

Winnie, she also has the voice of an angel – a fallen one at that, residing poolside in LA.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
sorry – see I’m late to the news. I swear I scrolled up – obviously NOT far enough!

pete m

21 Apr 12 at 10:00 pm
Still so sad he’s gone.

He wouldn’t have wanted you to be sad, Gab.

He simply would have wanted you to continue fighting.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 10:01 pm
That was a brilliant article, CL. Truth. Thanks for that.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 10:01 pm
Hope Bunyip’s okay. He hasn’t been blogging since Tuesday.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 10:02 pm
JAMES TARANTO: Another attack on Romney predictably backfires. “The truth is that Romney and Obama are both products of distinctively American subcultures–respectively, the Mormon church and the academic left. The difference is that whereas the Mormons, for more than a century, have aspired to join the American mainstream, the academic left is aggressively adversarial. It’s true that there is much about Mormonism that seems odd to people of other faiths. But a contest over whose opponent is weirder is one Obama cannot possibly win.”

Quite so.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 10:14 pm
Gab, even I, who believes the pursuit of the perfect green, or the perfect trout, is the apex of human existence, is starting to wonder at the absence of the Professor.
Is there a Catalaxian who could drop around to the waterhole and check out the perfessor?

Shit, I’ve been trying to work out if I could put him on my HACC round, but the boss has been very firm about this issue.

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 10:27 pm
I wonder, spot, if the Left have yet to work out that we, the proles, have had a gut full of the class warfare they continue to foment?

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 10:31 pm
Hope Bunyip’s okay.

This is the downside of the hidden identity he insists on using (for whatever reason). Only some of his immediate family will even know he runs a website. I’ll try to find out why he’s incommunicado.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 10:32 pm
The thing is, Winston, he was poorly for a few days after a picnic and then suddenly well enough to go golfing (I hate golf), which I don’t really think he was well enough to do (I hate golf, did I mention that already?). Then back to blogging for a couple of days and then a note to say he’s off golfing again and since then nada, nothing. All very strange. I hope he’s back soon – just a quick note to let us know he’s okay would be enough.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 10:35 pm
They haven’t worked that out, Winston, because they don’t want it to be so. They want to believe – they need to believe – that we proles actually are the stupid gullible sheep they keep telling each other we are.

They willfully misunderestimate us.

I live in hope that that will come back to bite them in the bum, and soon.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 10:37 pm
Oh rabz.

“Winnie, she also has the voice of an angel – a fallen one at that, residing poolside in LA.”

I save fallen women.
There’s a German backpacker pulling beers at the Blue Heeler at Kynuna – she has a smile that reaches all the way to her eyes.
I have weakness for girls like that. Or I did have until the child bride went on one of my rounds, and ended up giving me quite a few slaps ‘upside the head’ as our American cousins would have it.

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 10:38 pm
This is the downside of the hidden identity he insists on using

Tom,

His identity is not hidden. He has a name and most of his fans here know what it is.

I’m not having a go, BTW.

However, given all the concern being displayed here, I am now starting to worry.

Here’s hoping he’s just incommunicado on one of his epic outback adventures.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 10:45 pm
They wilfully misunderestimate us.

Of course they do. They have to. Remember what The Frollicking Mole of Kambalda said?

“The Left fervently believe that they are the smartest people in the room.”

It is beyond their ability to believe otherwise.
THIS IS THEIR WEAK SPOT.
Remember how Blitzkrieg worked? Put your strongest forces against their weakest defences.
That’s how we will win against the Left.

Winston Smith

21 Apr 12 at 10:48 pm
THIS IS THEIR WEAK SPOT.
Remember how Blitzkrieg worked? Put your strongest forces against their weakest defences.
That’s how we will win against the Left.

“…WAR”

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 10:53 pm
Remember how Blitzkrieg worked? Put your strongest forces against their weakest defences.

Winnie, perhaps not the most ideal analogy, Squire.

We win because we don’t see the world through a prism of hatred

We win because we see humans, not ‘minorities’ to be pitied and used

We win because we accept reality and don’t try to deny it

We win because we go about our own business, instead of interfering in everyone else’s

Etc, etc, etc.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 10:54 pm
Breitbart to Leftstream Media: “Fuck you. WAR.“

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 10:56 pm
We win because we go about our own business, instead of interfering in everyone else’s

Etc, etc, etc.

I disagree, Rabz.

We will not win their game by being “nice.”

If we want to win their game we have to start adopting some of their techniques.

“Nice” isn’t working.

WAR.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 10:59 pm
Gab, Ex hubby a golfer?

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 11:01 pm
If we want to win their game we have to start adopting some of their techniques.

So we reduce ourselves to their level, eh, Spot?

If need be, so be it.

I want to fight. You know that.

Agreed then – it’s WAR and they started it, FFS…

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
No, Jump. I’m lousy at golf, boobs get in the way (well that’s the truth of it!). That’s why I hate it.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:10 pm
Stop bragging Gab.

dover_beach

21 Apr 12 at 11:12 pm
Breitbart to Leftstream Media: “Fuck you. WAR.“

What’s sad is that so many centre right people still think its politics as normal.

The Leftists know its war and behave as such.

They wooly headed cenre right actually buy in to the misinformation of the MSM.

Leftism is a bigger threat to the West cultural democracy and liberty than radical Islamists.

JamesK

21 Apr 12 at 11:12 pm
Stop bragging Gab.

Heh.

Gab, Miss Lizzie and Candy.

All three like to talk themselves up.

I’d like to see if the talk matches the reality!

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 11:16 pm
I wasn’t bragging, Dover, It’s just the truth. All to do with aerodynamics.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
One day I want people to whisper sotto voce that they vote ALP or Green. I want them to be ashamed to mention such an odious pointnin polite company. When that happens we know we jhave won.

John Comnenus

21 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Gab, I think the word you’re searching for is ergonomics. In any case, you can be hell on wheels if you can putt and chip: nothing to do with body shape. The rest can be managed.

Tom

21 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Natalie Gulbis is top 50 on LPGA.
You may need a lesson or 2.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
Tom, that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it.

Can’t putt, can’t chip but can sink the ball in the lake every time. Pah! Stupid game.

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:30 pm
Those lessons didn’t help at all, Jump but my pole-dancing improved heaps. (j/k)

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:32 pm
…but my pole-dancing improved heaps.

Pics or get outta here

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 11:36 pm
Fine, Spot. Here!

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:40 pm
More Anti-Semitism at Occupy Wall Street

Gab

21 Apr 12 at 11:42 pm
Ahh,it’s not your score that matters, it’s the natural beauty of the environment. Flora and fauna and all that.

Jumpnmcar

21 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
Pole-dancing, Gab… ur doin it wrong.

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 11:44 pm
… when did bigotry ever demand logic?

Quite so.

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
White? Huh?

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
Labor. “We Are Us.”

sdog

21 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
Enough.

golf sucks, no matter who plays it.

It is about trying to propel an uncontrollable spheroid into an inaccessible hole, with instruments ill adapted to the purpose.

That’s my brother in law’s definition (a handy player himself) not mine.

My definition would be more at home here…

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 11:52 pm
Labor. “We Are Us.”

Rabz

21 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
Bank of America tells gun manufacturer it no longer wants their business?

Tidbits:

” McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing, McMillan Group International have been collectively banking with Bank of America for 12 years. Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President, Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking came to my office. He scheduled the meeting as an “account analysis” meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them. He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and have become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.

At this point I interrupted him and asked “Can I possible save you some time so that you don’t waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer what my business.”

“That is correct” he says…

“So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?”

Mr Fox confirmed that it was. At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing let for him to say.”

RTWT.

Hmmmm….strange days indeed. Perhaps JC can explain further.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
Labor. “We are us”.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
Night all, I tee off at 8.

Jumpnmcar

22 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
Golf.

Tom

22 Apr 12 at 12:07 am
Peter Patton has really lost it. Hope he gets the meds imbalance sorted.

Right now, I’m picturing him as a doppleganger of Peter Slipper. In every way.

Abu Chowdah

22 Apr 12 at 12:15 am
Actually, Peter appears to have a nasty streak when he’s losing, so I think of him more as our own David Marr. Waspish, cat’s bum moue, type of old queen.

Abu Chowdah

22 Apr 12 at 12:18 am
A failed, rotting, ugly machine for making waves.

I mean, does symbolism get any more telling than this?

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:37 am
Mutual of New York.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 12:43 am
Explain what GAB. Explain that BAC is a de-balled lap dog of the US government?

Of course it is.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
golf sucks, no matter who plays it.

Only if you suck at it. I don’t.

C.L I can never forgive the church for “social justice”, giving free reign to “liberation theorists” and in Australia taking Government money after the school strike. What they needed to do was tell the State of NSW to fuck off with their overbearing regulations, then they wouldn’t have needed the money…

.

22 Apr 12 at 1:11 am
A failed, rotting, ugly machine for making waves.

I mean, does symbolism get any more telling than this?

The Bob Brown Bank hasn’t even opened for business yet. A whole new wave of of “clean energy entrepreneurs” are lining up to get their hands on $10 billion before the boom is lowered in November 2013 … $1000 per Australian household in taxes paid by real people we’ll never see again. And no-one will be accountable. Most of those writing the cheques will have been thrown out of parliament and/or sacked from the public service.

Tom

22 Apr 12 at 1:30 am
Right.

I wouldn’t say liberation ‘theologians’ were given free reign, though. They were ruthlessly pursued and are no longer heard from, really. In Nicaragua, John Paul II famously admonished one of their number – Marxist dropkick, Fr Ernesto Cardenal, S.J – publicly in 1983.

Being a thespian master, John Paul made sure everyone knew what it was about. No microphones or stenographers were necessary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAcd_XtTk-o

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 1:33 am
Ten different abandoned clean energy plants. Welcome to your future.

boy on a bike

22 Apr 12 at 1:48 am
This is brilliant:

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/328596.php

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 1:49 am
Twitter catch-up: @RupertMurdoch is right about the birds, right about the economics, and right about the ugly. Good for him.

sdog

22 Apr 12 at 1:55 am
@SenJohnMcCain:

VP @JoeBiden likens President Obama’s policies to “legalizing rattlesnakes in the lobbies of hotels in Arizona.” What does that even mean?

Let’s go to the video: http://youtu.be/mcjet2MwUR0

Oh, wait. It’s hard to tell between parody Joe Biden and real Joe Biden…

sdog

22 Apr 12 at 2:00 am
Zimmerman affadavit may constitute a crime…

Dershowitz Blasts Zimmerman Prosecution: ‘Not Only Immoral, But Stupid’.

“An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie.”

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 2:25 am
“Whitey” Zimmerman Speaks – court footage.

He looks remarkably different to the pictures show by the media.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 2:46 am
Good Lord.

Zimmerman quietly, truthfully destroys that lawyer.

The prosecutor who brought these charges must now realise her career is over.

And yes, he’s darker than a lot of government grant recipients. He’s about the same colour as Obama, actually.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 3:06 am
Beyond parody:

Tim Blair: Seriously.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 3:07 am
So if Obama had a son he’d look like Zimmerman.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 3:10 am
That’s it.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 3:13 am
President Obama personally condemned the actions of the Honduran government. However, his administration appears to have tacitly approved what the Post calls “an angry mob of police officers and soldiers” returning Maldives to Islamist rule.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/04/20/ousted-maldives-president-claims-obama-approved-islamist-coup

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 3:43 am
Obama Admin Seeks Gitmo Release of Terrorist who Killed US Soldier

“That’s right—although Khadr was found guilty of killing US Army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer and sentenced to 40 years by a military jury, there is a deal in the works to transfer him to Canada [where his family lives] where his prison sentence can be cut drastically…”

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 3:46 am
The disgusting show trial of George Zimmerman is yet more evidence that Leftism should be utterly banned. Totally suppressed and stamped out without any possibility of resurrection.

Fisky

22 Apr 12 at 4:20 am
Completely banned, snuffed out, extinguished, destroyed, and dead-parrotlike so that no one will even remember what it is: that is what Leftism must become after this disgusting star chamber.

Fisky

22 Apr 12 at 4:23 am
Gab. That guy was a child soldier.

Abu Chowdah

22 Apr 12 at 4:28 am
This is neat. The 2012 National Debt Road Trip: The Debtening
[PoliticalMath]

sdog

22 Apr 12 at 6:59 am
The whole Zimmerman business is not about skin colour, Zimmerman is darker than many who call themselves Black. This is entirely about his race – he is not of African descent. The so called anti racists, like all Lefty causes, have finally managed to achieve that which they claimed to oppose. Welcome to supposedly post racial America. America is busy destroying itself.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 7:33 am
The vid of Zimmerman in court shows a polite, reasoned dark guy making mince meat of the prosecutor’s cheap tricks to try and ensnare him into making a statement of self incrimination. I thought the Defence should have objected to the prosecution’s use of the term crime and forced them tomsay alleged crime. When Zimmerman said he didn’t send an email the prosecutor fell in a heap. I thought his answer to why he hadn’t expressed sorrow to the Martin family until now was devestating – ‘because I was toldmnot to contact thenfamily sir.’

If he gets off and the prosecution knowingly withheld information from their affidavit, I hope Zimmerman brings a criminal suit against the prosecuter. This is almost certainly a show trial driven by the US Left and African American grievance mongers.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 7:51 am
JamesK:

Breitbart to Leftstream Media: “Fuck you. WAR.“

What’s sad is that so many centre right people still think its politics as normal.

The Leftists know its war and behave as such.

They wooly headed cenre right actually buy in to the misinformation of the MSM.

Leftism is a bigger threat to the West cultural democracy and liberty than radical Islamists.

Yes, accepted this five years ago. That’s the very reason you use the left’s own tactics against them all the time, every time, without apology, without second thought, without remorse, and ruthlessly.

Their basic tactic is to do this to YOU while insisting that you hold yourself to a higher standard and never, ever respond.

Screw that. Golden Rule applies here.

Mk50 of Brisbane

22 Apr 12 at 8:39 am
Leftists are so chock-full of racial thoughts & racist stereotypes themselves, they can’t help projecting all that on anyone and anything.

The latest in the Left’s crypto-racism watch? Mitt Romney’s slogan “Obama Isn’t Working” is TOTES raaaaacist.

The slogan is a multiple entendre, but one of those entendres, intentionally or not, is evocative of a nasty racial stereotype about black men.

When I first saw the banner this afternoon, the multiple meanings were clear: President Obama‘s policies aren’t working, the Obama presidency isn’t working, President Obama…isn’t working, as in, doing any work. That’s not a nice thing to say about any president, but like it or not, it becomes a more loaded accusation when leveled at our first black president.

Just to be sure it wasn’t just me, though, I asked several friends about the banner, and four out of four pointed out, unprompted, the stereotype of the “lazy,” “shiftless” black man. One of the people I called was cable news fixture Goldie Taylor, who, upon hearing my description of the banner, said “Are you kidding me? You have got to be kidding me.”

As Tim Blair called out yesterday when a similar victim card was being waved around in everyone’s faces… what the hell?

Go read the whole thing at Wm Jacobson’s “Saturday Night Card Game.”

sdog

22 Apr 12 at 9:12 am
Yep, after a failed first term, of the Presidency and only the Presidency I make no comment or pass no judgement either in favor or against any racial stereotype about African American failure rates in school, that may or may not exist amongst some, all or many commentators, either now or that might subsequently come into being into the future and independent of this comment which self evidently makes no comment about any stereotype……..where was I again?

Oh yeah after a failed Presidency Obama can’t run on his record, as President and only as President. I make no comment or pass any judgement either in favor or against any racial stereotype about African Americans’ conviction rates, that may or may not exist amongst some, all or many commentators, either now or that might subsequently come into being in the future and independent of this comment which self evidently makes no comment about any stereotype.

All those disclaimers aren’t going to fit in an ad let alone on a bumper sticker. What I really wanted to say is that:

Obama is a failed President who can’t run on his record!

The Democrats only response is to say that even making this claim is racist.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 9:53 am
UziBoy of Boganville on his usual ‘get tough with lefties’ rant.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 9:58 am
The Democrats only response is to say that even making this claim is racist.

And denying your racism only proves your racism.

“People in politics who blow dog whistles invariably deny it and usually express great umbrage at the very suggestion they don’t mean exactly what they are saying and nothing more.”

So shut up. Racist.

sdog

22 Apr 12 at 9:58 am
The Democrats only response is to say that even making this claim is racist.

John, I pointed out this inevitability last week.

This is merely the beginning.

The insufferable, dishonest scumbags.

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 9:58 am
If those idiot leftards knew any history, they’d know that the slogan was used in the 1979 UK election.

Here’s the original, in the Grauniad of all places.

boy on a bike

22 Apr 12 at 10:00 am
An updated “X isn’t working” poster, with a nice blog post:

Fraud and criminality takes place in all walks of life but is actually much more common in the public sphere where controls tend to be more lax. I used to work for a local authority where helping yourself to stationery was seen as a perk of the job as was taking your fair share of sick days. I once went on holiday with a couple of colleagues, one of whom, on our return, erroneously claimed that her lack of a tan was because she had been ill the whole time and not because she had to sit in the shade constantly wearing factor 100 for fear of burning. Her boss spoke to human resources and she was given the time back as sick leave. Elsewhere in the same department, some of the then student grants staff created some fictitious students and pocketed their grants.

boy on a bike

22 Apr 12 at 10:02 am
Guys, despite the high temperature of political debate sometimes, you’re not at war with your fellow citizens.

daddy dave

22 Apr 12 at 10:05 am
Yep Rabz,

A point worth multiple reiteration.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 10:11 am
Dave, you are right in one sense of course. There is no Left Army out there fighting a good army.

But what is war? It is the violent and organized means by which one group forces a political solution on an unwilling opponent.

I would argue that the Western Left has used low level organised violence against many on the Right for at least a generation, if not two. They definitely want to force their political solution on an unwilling society.

The problems that exist in the Left is that they have the two preconditions required to go to a much broader, more organised and more violent attack on their political opponents:

1. A supremacist mindset. They believe they are morally superior to us. You need a supremacist mindset to belittle and eventually dehumanise your opponents. You can’t start killing your opponents until they have been dehumanized. A supmaciset mindset is critical to terrorism and insurgency.
2. Political weakness. Those supremacists who cannot win at the ballot box often resort to violence as their only means of ‘persuading’ people and enforcing their political solution on the unwilling. As the Left collapses Western worldwide some will be more inclined to violence, especially as they lose control of the State organs that can softly oppress people, like the Courts, Police, Media and a myriad petty bureaucratic functionaries in tribunals and regulatory offices.

So are we at war? Not completely but I would argue that we a very possibly at the early onset of a war against us initiated by the committed and serioous supremacist Left. People like Bill Ayers and the Baader Meinhof went to the next level. I believe that groups like this will make a comeback soon.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 10:26 am
ha ha ha – in the Zimmerman video, one of the commenters describes Zimmerman as a “community activist”.

boy on a bike

22 Apr 12 at 10:26 am
Zimmerman was helping out the black community with a funeral benefits programme.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 10:28 am
As Hitler put it, if the left wants to try to destroy us by starting a war, then this war will end not with the destruction of the right but the annihilation of the leftists from the face of the earth:

I would argue that the Western Left has used low level organised violence against many on the Right for at least a generation, if not two. They definitely want to force their political solution on an unwilling society.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 10:31 am
Godwin to you Samson. You cannot deny that most politically motivated terrorism world wide are from the Left. Check the Rand Corporations world data base of terrorist organizations and their motivations. There are very few right wing terrorist groups and a multitude of left wing groups. There are of course many nationalist and religiously motivated groups as well. The overwhelming religious motivator is Islam.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 10:37 am
Oh and Samson, Hitlerr was a National Socialist. He was not a Conservative in any sense and he certainly wasn’t a libertarian.

His was a big government, highly regulating, oppssive, murderous regime. Most here arer against every aspect listed above. The Left have quite a bit on common with Hitler’s regime. After all Socialists and Communists killed more people last century than any other ideology.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 10:47 am
Gab ‘n Golf

I feel your pain. Love waterskiing, but boobs get/got in the way, with a life vest on, etc. Awkward to ski with bent arms.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:59 am
Samson, the actions of the socialists and other militant left wing groups in Germany were at times indistinguishable from the Nazis. At least up until the Nazis obtained power and eliminated their totalitarian competition.

Aside from his nationalism, German volkism and anti-communism Hitler was decidely from the left.

Cory Olsen

22 Apr 12 at 11:09 am
The fact is that Western Governments define almost everything left as terrorist so quasi-official lists are useless.

Left secular terror in Western countries from endogenous Western sources seems pretty much moribund.

You can’t say this about the right in Western countries.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 11:13 am
The attempt to assimilate Nazism to Stalinism under the rubric of totalitarianism is a transparent attempt to let right terror off the hook.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 11:15 am
You can’t say this about the right in Western countries.

You’re an imbecile Bob.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:15 am
As if you’re unsubstantiated opinion was worth anything!

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 11:16 am
Further reading for Samson

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=XAf0RZQqsEsC&pg=PT247&lpg=PT247&dq=communist+uniforms+germany+1930s&source=bl&ots=IgQKxFYv6t&sig=0EZOLv8XiiNAeRqHjravyt9OUT0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_luTT4yVIuioiAempfmfBA&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ

Cory Olsen

22 Apr 12 at 11:21 am
So Samson thinks the weathermen, Baader Meinhof, red brigade, red army faction etc etc aren’t Left motivated terror groups. Many of course were funded directly and indirectly by the Soviets and their henchmen. The RAND corp is a private not for profit group with an exceptional reputation. It maintains a terrorist database with a university which I cannot recall. For more information Bob you could trawl the correlates of war data base and do your own research. By the way, the RAND Corp has as many PC morons in it as any other institution. To right off their research in the way you did is to just dismiss any inconvenient facts with an arm wave. You are an idiot.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 11:24 am
My remarks implied the groups you mentioned are moribund; and of course that’s what they are.

Right wing terror is not moribund, as Breivik, among others, demonstrates.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 11:27 am
This is almost certainly a show trial driven by the US Left and African American grievance mongers.

Almost certainly?

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 11:28 am
Guys, despite the high temperature of political debate sometimes, you’re not at war with your fellow citizens.

Naive rubbish.

Andrew Breitbart: We didn’t declare war on the Left. They declared war on us

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 11:37 am
I’m really not sure which gang is more dangerous to the public these days. Bikies or the NSW Police. In the past few weeks, they’ve killed an innocent motorist while imitating the Dukes of Hazard, murdered a Brazilian tourist and now a report shows that many of their members are criminals, child molesters, stalkers and frauds.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 11:40 am
They declared war on us.

Yeah, right, straight from the Hitlerian exterminationist textbook.

The paranoid style in politics, tous azimuts.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 11:41 am
He could have been Obama’s son:

Chicago Thug Beats & Robs White Man… Says He Was Angry About Trayvon Martin.

Alton L. Hayes III*, a west suburban man charged with a hate crime, told police he was so upset about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida that he beat up a white man early Tuesday.

Hayes and a 15-year-old Chicago boy walked up behind the 19-year-old man victim and pinned his arms to his side, police said. Hayes, 18, then picked up a large tree branch, pointed it at the man and said, “Empty your pockets, white boy.”

The two allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets, then threw him to the ground and punched him “numerous times” in the head and back before running away, police said. Hayes and the boy are black; the victim is white.

* An aristocrat, obviously.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 11:43 am
Maybe it’s just me but I get the impression that no matter the campaign slogan, the racist slur will be levelled at Romney reinforcing the unofficial Obama campaign slogan “If you don’t vote for Obama, you’re a racist”. I don’t believe this tactic will work a second time though.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 11:43 am
Samson, they will be back. There are right wing groups but it would appear that Breivk was not a member of such group. He appears to have acted alone.

For some time I have been worried that Breiviks will arise in Europe as the space for discussion and debate around cultural issues are systematically shut down by the Left. Breivik will almost certainly be followed by others. But the only thing that separates Breivik from the Islamic cultural terrorists he hates is that he was moderately competent in a way most Islamic terrorists aren’t. If they were there would be a lot more dead Europeans of all stripes. That is where Europe is heading.

You can see the preconditions for violence with Breivik, supremacy and political weakness. This is why we must retain freedom of speech at almost all costs. It makes supremacism harder to argue and it takes away the claim that violence is the only option to pursue political objectives.

The Left are creating monsters and there are plenty waiting out there to join up.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 11:44 am
Exactly, Gab. The more RACIST RACISM charges we hear, the better. The American people have tuned out on that stuff, I think. The prominence of race grievance lunatics like Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, Holder and others is to be strongly encouraged.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 11:47 am
The irony here is that perennial fuckwit bob didn’t watch the video clip referenced.

Set aside their perennial mind-boggling hypocrisy, that deafness is what leftists – tous azimuts – are rightly infamous for.

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 11:48 am
Arguing about whether a totalitarian regime or a terrorist group is left wing or right wing is completely pointless.

All totalitarian regime and terrorist groups should be condemned as an evil in themselves, not because of whether they deserve to be labelled left or right wing. (Whatever those terms might mean.)

If you are a ‘right winger’ or a ‘left winger’ who believes in freedom and democracy, you would not support any totalitarian regime or a terrorist group, regardless of whether their ideals appeared to mirror your own.

johno

22 Apr 12 at 11:51 am
Naive rubbish.

What I said was obviously and patently true.

We can do this the easy way or the hard way, James. You can either admit that I was right immediately, or I can drag it out of you like a rotten molar, likely causing CL to revise his previous declaration of “worst open thread ever”.

daddy dave

22 Apr 12 at 11:52 am
“Check the Rand Corporations world data base of terrorist organizations and their motivations. There are very few right wing terrorist groups and a multitude of left wing groups.”

Speaking broadly, and ignoring state terrorism, that’s not just down to a purported inherent tendency towards violence among those on the Left, but the nature of the problems and the identification of goals by those who feel violence is necessary.

Terrorism is the quintessential asymmetric strategy, typically used by those who are out-manned and out-gunned. It is a strategy of the less powerful against the more powerful. Wealth has been synonymous with power since we started making tools, and the powerful in the modern world are almost without exception those with the wealth to gain and hold that power. The powerless resent that, rightly or wrongly depending on the situation, and when they seek to change it they are not going to ascribe to the right-wing views that support existing wealth and privilege, but to left-wing ideologies that say it’s OK to use force to change the social set-up.

When the wealth/power status quo is threatened, or traditional right-wing positions are not in favour in the halls of power, that’s when you get right-wing terrorism. Like Breivik, McVeigh, Copeland, the KKK.

Jarrah

22 Apr 12 at 11:53 am
Right wing terror is certainly in the state of ideological fermentation with individual experimentation.

But the leftist groups you mentioned were also at that point once, and the fact is these terrror groups were also very small in number

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 11:53 am
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t meant they aren’t out to get you!

Besides just because the real life inspirations for Hans Gruber are morbid does not mean that there aren’t any modern day equivalents.

Some of the green and animal rights group (more so in Europe then here) are border line terrorists.

Cory Olsen

22 Apr 12 at 11:59 am
Poor little Sturmabteilung. He’s still sticking to the 1946 Stalinist trope that the national socialists were somehow ‘right’ in their political beliefs.

Poor ill-educated buffoon. Communists of the era were international socialists. The NSDAP were national socialists. That’s it.

Both were socialists.

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” –Adolf Hitler

(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)

Here’s a few points from their party platform:

12. In view of the enormous sacrifices of life and property demanded of a nation by any war, personal enrichment from war must be regarded as a crime against the nation. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municiple orders.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.

from a letter to Herman Rauschning, quoted in Why Does Socialism Continue to Appeal to Anyone?, by Robert Hessen

Poor little Sturmabteilung does not even understand why he’s so attracted to Ernst Rohm and the SA. it’s that special socialist love that dares not speak its name….

Mk50 of Brisbane

22 Apr 12 at 11:59 am
Steady, Uziboy from Bogansville, 1927 is a long time before the ‘night of the long knives’ when Hitler exterminated the SA in order to make German capitalism happy. I take it therefore you love the SS, but have a poor opinion of the SA?

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 12:02 pm
Speaking broadly, and ignoring state terrorism, that’s not just down to a purported inherent tendency towards violence among those on the Left, but the nature of the problems and the identification of goals by those who feel violence is necessary.

Decoded: Sure, lefties love violence but they have nice reasons for it.

The KKK?

You mean the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party – whose last reigning member, Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd, was third in line to the presidency until June 28, 2010?

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:03 pm
State terrorism – imprisonment without trial, rendition without due process of law, outsourcing terror to centres under your control in friendly undemocratic countries, arresting nationals and incarcerating them without trial when on foreign soil, electronically tatooing the population for surveillance, murder by drone, invasions based on fabricated evidence, mass murder of children through sanctions regimes, etc.

Endless state terror since 911 and liby luvvies worry about Boltshit?

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 12:09 pm
“Decoded: Sure, lefties love violence but they have nice reasons for it.”

All terrorists think they have good/nice reasons for killing innocent people to terrorise others into changing their actions.

“The KKK? You mean the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party”

What a surprise, the Democrats get mentioned by CL. But it’s true – the Democrats are right-wing, they just used to be much more right-wing.

Jarrah

22 Apr 12 at 12:12 pm
The cream of the crop, guarding the President…

Twenty-one U.S. public servants. Twenty-one Colombian whores. Unless a couple of the senior guys splashed out for the two-girl special. “Some of them were saying they didn’t know they were prostitutes,” explained Congressman Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee…

Amazing to hear government agents channeling Dudley Moore in Arthur: “You’re a hooker? I thought I was doing so well.” It turns out U.S. Secret Service agents are the only men who can walk into a Colombian nightclub and not spot the professionals. Are they really the guys you want protecting the president?

Mark Steyn: Grope and Change

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 12:13 pm
Like Breivik, McVeigh, Copeland, the KKK.

Dunno who Copeland is but aren’t you again starting another one of those ” the US is 37th” in healthcare things.

The KKK was always a Democratic Party affiliated organization, Jazzabelle.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:15 pm
But it’s true – the Democrats are right-wing, they just used to be much more right-wing.

Lol. University has totally fucking ruined you.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
Johno 11:51

Arguing about whether a totalitarian regime or a terrorist group is left wing or right wing is completely pointless.

bears repeating

kae

22 Apr 12 at 12:18 pm
Lets also not forget the European far left terror groups of the 70′s. They ran execution squads.

But I’m guessing Jazzabelle will say they were really right wing disguised as leftwing groups.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
But it’s true – the Democrats are right-wing, they just used to be much more right-wing.

Uh-huh.

No, the party’s terrorist wing, the KKK, was left-wing. It was the right that sought to liberate blacks in the US – just as it was the right in Australia that destroyed the White Australia Policy.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
“No, the party’s terrorist wing, the KKK, was left-wing.”

LOL! I’d love to see you try to justify that howler.

Jarrah

22 Apr 12 at 12:21 pm
bears repeating

Not really, because it isn’t true. Generally speaking right wing governments usually come from the military in an attempt to prevent totalitarian leftwing trogs from totally taking over. Most of them are usually rehabilitated and allow for free elections after they feel the threat has gone.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:22 pm
What a surprise, the Democrats get mentioned by CL. But it’s true – the Democrats are right-wing, they just used to be much more right-wing.

Please explain how progressives and Alinsky can be categorised as “right wing”.

.

22 Apr 12 at 12:24 pm
What I said was obviously and patently true.

We can do this the easy way or the hard way, James. You can either admit that I was right immediately, or I can drag it out of you like a rotten molar, likely causing CL to revise his previous declaration of “worst open thread ever”.

Stop being silly dd.

Try ‘dragging it out’ of Andrew Breitbart.

Or you could try making a rebuttal to his argument.

Or perhaps ur so facile that you want argue on whether their is an armed civil war presently?

Mind, that seems porecisely to be what many in the Left is America are trying to incite.

Ur a clown dd.

Not because of your original assertion but in ur response to my characterising that assertion as ‘naive rubbish’.

Which is “obviously and patently” exactly what it is

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 12:24 pm
LOL! I’d love to see you try to justify that howler.

Why, because it’s true. The Republican party is the South used to be referred to as the party of the black man.

You’re living in a parallel universe, Jazzabelle.

I’ll repeat, the KKK was the terror arm of the KKK. In fact the KKK was the first group to oppose gun ownerhsip in the US as a way to prevent blacks from owning guns to protect themselves against KKK lynch mobs.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:25 pm
Please explain how progressives and Alinsky can be categorised as “right wing”.

He is because Jazzabelle says so, because jazzabelle’s UNSW “herman” rights law professor told him in a lecture.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:27 pm
Should be
I’ll repeat, the KKK was the terror arm of the Demolition Party.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:28 pm
LOL! I’d love to see you try to justify that howler.

LOL + ! + “howler” = protesteth too much.

The old south’s suzerains – like Huey Long (right up to Lyndon Johnson) – were uncomplicated socialists and left-wingers. That’s not even worth arguing about. Being left-wingers, they naturally hated blacks and were threatened by them, industrially and otherwise. Australia’s left hated blacks OFFICIALLY until the early 1970s.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:29 pm
The Republican Party was formed in the 1850’s specifically to oppose Democratic pro-slavery policies.

Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves as the 16th Republican president. He was murdered by a Democrat.

In 1868 not 1 Democrat voted for the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (granting former slaves citizenship). The bill was passed by Republicans

The Ku Klux Klan was formed by Democratic southerners in the 1870’s specifically to stop Republicans and African Americans from voting. On April 20, 1871 Republican Congress enacted the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

Racist Democratic Political Poster

March 1, 1875 Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

July 14, 1884 Republicans criticize Democratic Party’s nomination of racist U.S. Senator Thomas Hendricks (D-IN) for vice president; he had voted against the 13th Amendment banning slavery

August 30, 1890 Republican President Benjamin Harrison signs legislation by U.S. Senator Justin Morrill (R-VT) making African-Americans eligible for land-grant colleges in the South

February 8, 1894 Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

April 18, 1920 Minnesota’s FIRST-in-the-nation anti-lynching law, promoted by African-American Republican Nellie Francis, signed by Republican Gov. Jacob Preus

January 15, 1929 Martin Luther King Jr. born

Martin Luther King

May 17, 1954 Chief Justice Earl Warren, three-term Republican Governor (CA) and Republican vice presidential nominee in 1948, wins unanimous support of Supreme Court for school desegregation in Brown v. Board of Education

November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel

March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation

June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law

October 19, 1956 On campaign trail, Vice President Richard Nixon vows: “American boys and girls shall sit, side by side, at any school – public or private – with no regard paid to the color of their skin. Segregation, discrimination, and prejudice have no place in America”

November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President

September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act

September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools

June 23, 1958 President Dwight Eisenhower meets with Martin Luther King and other African-American leaders to discuss plans to advance civil rights

February 4, 1959 President Eisenhower informs Republican leaders of his plan to introduce 1960 Civil Rights Act, despite staunch opposition from many Democrats

May 6, 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats

May 2, 1963 Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights

June 1, 1963 Democrat Governor George Wallace announces defiance of court order issued by Republican federal judge Frank Johnson to integrate University of Alabama

September 29, 1963 Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School

June 9, 1964 Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirkson, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

June 20, 1964 The Chicago Defender, renowned African-American newspaper, praises Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) for leading passage of 1964 Civil Rights Act

Civil Rights StruggleMarch 7, 1965 Police under the command of Democrat Governor George Wallace attack African-Americans demonstrating for voting rights in Selma, AL

March 21, 1965 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson authorizes Martin Luther King’s protest march from Selma to Montgomery, overruling Democrat Governor George Wallace

August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose

August 6, 1965 Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:33 pm
The racist Australian left also backed the Third Reich after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Australian unionists ratted on Australian Diggers fighting abroad – deliberately sabotaging their supplies. Anti-Asian extremist Gough Whitlam later recognised the legality of the Pact by accepting the USSR’s claim to the Baltic states. Gough also signed off on the East Timor genocide (500,000 dead) and utterly denied the Killing Fields. Years later, Paul Keating hero-worshipped mass murderer General Suharto (he called him ‘father’). The entire history of the Australian left is characterised by ceaseless, blood-splattered race hatred.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
“Please explain how progressives and Alinsky can be categorised as “right wing”.”

Don’t cherry-pick. Overall, the Democrats are clearly centre-right. There is no left-wing party in the US.

“Why, because it’s true. The Republican party is the South used to be referred to as the party of the black man.”

So you’re saying the Republicans used to be left-wing? LOL. The fact is, the KKK were affiliated with the Democrats because they shared certain positions and goals, white supremacist ones mainly, but also other conservative ones. The mere name ‘Democrats’ doesn’t mean anything done under that name is therefore left-wing, silly.

Jarrah

22 Apr 12 at 12:36 pm
In fact the American political Right has a proud fucking history of anti-bigotry and actually formed a political party to re-make the nation away from slavery and bigotry.

It’s a proud, proud history.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:36 pm
Stop derailing the thread, JC.

Jarrah

22 Apr 12 at 12:37 pm
Don’t cherry-pick. Overall, the Democrats are clearly centre-right. There is no left-wing party in the US.

You’re fucking deluded, Jazzabelle. You’re living in a bizarro world of stupidity brought on by a university education. It’s literally fucking ruined you.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:38 pm
Stop derailing the thread, JC.

Put it to a vote as to who people think is actually derailing the thread, Jazzabelle.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:39 pm
Don’t cherry-pick. Overall, the Democrats are clearly centre-right. There is no left-wing party in the US.

I am not cherry picking. The President is a Democrat and follows Alinksy. Progressivism is the chosen belief of the left wing grass roots of the Democrats.

Please answer the question.

.

22 Apr 12 at 12:41 pm
Jazzabelle..

US tax rates were at 90% introduced by the Demolition party. It’s a statist ugly leftist party through and through.

Always has been.

The job for the Republican Party is to finally kill it and yank away the liberal wing of the party that really has no business being associated with this disgusting group. That’s basically East Coast liberals.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:42 pm
I see you agree with John Pilger, CL:

Gough also signed off on the East Timor genocide (500,000 dead) and utterly denied the Killing Fields. Years later, Paul Keating hero-worshipped mass murderer General Suharto (he called him ‘father’). The entire history of the Australian left is characterised by ceaseless, blood-splattered race hatred.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 12:44 pm
Obama follows Wall Street bankers, but not as well as Romney.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 12:45 pm
I see you agree with John Pilger, CL:

Color me surprised, Bob. Color me shocked you’d be siding with that disgusting poisonous snake.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
JC

Using the branding/labelling logic:

islamic states are labelled conservative, therefore right wing.

it follows that islamic terrorists are right wing, doesn’t it?

***

How is Breivik a right-winger?

I know that most people who are of the left don’t understand how anyone couldn’t think the same as them, and if they find friends of acquaintances who are not aligned with them in thought, word and deed (and that means even similar views on issues, but not full-on right wing views), they are first shocked, stunned and amazed, and then they feel pity for this person who doesn’t think exactly like them.

Where I’ve found common ground with like-minded people who sit on the right of the spectrum, I understand their differences in point of view to mine.

Some commenters who visit here speak of the “hive mind” here and on other right leaning blogs, but they can’t see that so manh of us even though we are similar in our views of the world do have differences and will argue about them, er, discuss them, and disagree. But visiting left leaning blogs you’re left to feel that everyone thinks and feels the same.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
Obama follows Wall Street bankers, but not as well as Romney.

Oh how so , bob?

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:46 pm
Overall, the Democrats are clearly centre-right. There is no left-wing party in the US.

That might have been true for much of modern history and perhaps arguably of Bill Clinton’s presidency but it’s a farcical nonsense now.

John Kennedy would disagree with most if not near all of modern Demolitionists.

That’s why the Left are a bigger threat than radical Islam.

That’s why it must be resolute opposition.

People of honour and commonsense must know it’s war.

The Left are unrelenting and extreme and have total control of the Dems and partial control on the ALP here.

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 12:47 pm
Using the branding/labelling logic:

islamic states are labelled conservative, therefore right wing.

it follows that islamic terrorists are right wing, doesn’t it?

No, because in every case they are statist toilets.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:47 pm
Look at Obama’s economic team and look at Romney’s superpacs.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 12:47 pm
not full-on right wing views expressed

manh = many

kae

22 Apr 12 at 12:48 pm
That might have been true for much of modern history and perhaps arguably of Bill Clinton’s presidency but it’s a farcical nonsense now.

John Kennedy would disagree

These people are basically liberals in the American sense. They aren’t leftist.

I do think Clinton though was at the beginning but was “helped” find his feet by the Republican Party.

Keating for instance is a rightist but a gutless one. He’s too gutless to come out and say what he thinks of the current state of the Liars Party. That’s why I have little regard for him.

He does let the cat of the bag like when he was asked by Euromoney about what he though about Shane Wand getting the title of Finance Minister of the year.. Keating yelled and abused him at the absurdity.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:52 pm
Look at Obama’s economic team and look at Romney’s superpacs.

Yea and?

JC

22 Apr 12 at 12:53 pm
Overall, the Democrats are clearly centre-right.

No, they’re not. Their economic arcadianism throughout the nineteenth and twentieth centuries was indistinguishable from modern leftist/Green obscurantism and Luddite-ism. The economic component of the Democrat Party’s war on blacks was real and longlasting. So they’ve always been centre left – with some exceptions.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:53 pm
The Gaza Zoo looks like a fun place to visit.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:55 pm
Jarrah,

Joe Biden wants a global minimum tax.

Sonia Sotormayor was a member of La Raza and thinks that high courts make policy.

Elena Kagan helped construct Obamacare.

Elizabeth Warren is an academic fraud.

Judy Chu is tied to the SEIU which is fairly left wing and has some old backwards, commie beliefs.

Rep Jane Harman (D CA) is married ton a socialist publisher.

Fmr Speaker Nancy Pelosi Pelosi accused Tea Partiers of attending Nazi-sign rallies in 20910 whereas a top Pelosi staffer lead Nazi-sign rally. Pelosi wanted to add another 2.9% additional tax on “unearned” income.

Maxine Waters voted to give ACORN regulatory authority over financial institutions.

Do I really need to go on anymore, Jarrah?

.

22 Apr 12 at 12:56 pm
SA and Jarrah (and most of the left) define “left wing” and “right wing” as follows:

“If I am for it – it is left wing, if I am against it – it is right-wing.”

Hence racism, anti-semitism and eugenics become identified as “right wing” despite being positions held by the left throughout most of the history of the Anglophone left. Anyone espousing those positions in the past are therefore described as “right-wingers” no matter how much they supported radical redistribution of wealth.

Matt

22 Apr 12 at 12:57 pm
More recently, the Australian left has thrown its support behind morals campaigns against cigarettes, alcohol, the internet and free speech. Last week they passionately endorsed Muslim prayer rooms at state-funded football stadiums.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 12:58 pm
Well, Gaza is itself a zoo full of mistreated humans managed from Jerusalem.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 12:58 pm
Stop quoting from fortune cookies, Bob.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 12:58 pm
He does let the cat of the bag like when he was asked by Euromoney about what he though about Shane Wand getting the title of Finance Minister of the year.. Keating yelled and abused him at the absurdity.

Comedy gold except we’re paying for it.

No, they’re not. Their economic arcadianism throughout the nineteenth and twentieth centuries was indistinguishable from modern leftist/Green obscurantism and Luddite-ism. The economic component of the Democrat Party’s war on blacks was real and longlasting. So they’ve always been centre left – with some exceptions.

I like this President Grover Cleveland (D) cat. He seems almost a classical liberal, i.e a libertarian.

.

22 Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
“…Gaza is itself a zoo…”

True.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 1:01 pm
Bob

Don’t you have speech to write instead of trolling?

JC

22 Apr 12 at 1:02 pm
The Democrat Party’s third-in-line to the Presidency until 2010.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 1:03 pm
For the record, I think islamic terrorists are brainwashed from birth, unable to be saved/changed from their path. Unworthy of our efforts to try and change their minds as we cannot, the brainwashing started too early and has completely dehumanised them.

And I definitly don’t see them as being right wing.

Although the left would* because they are so tolerant and accepting of all things different.

*see them as right wing as they see all of the left/conservative as being intolerant and not accepting of things different.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 1:04 pm
These people are basically liberals in the American sense

JC, if Nancy Pelosi, Obummer and Harry Reid are ‘liberals in the american sense’ then American liberals are leftists.

It’s not difficult.

And Hilary Clinton’s hero is Alinsky

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 1:05 pm
James,

No one knows what the Clintons really think, other than they are the ultimate survivalists. They will do, say or enact whatever it takes to get money and power.

At the same time I think Hilary is competent and in Government dangerous. She really should have gotten into the private sector.

If the Republicans had an 80% share of the US vote, Clinton would position herself as more Republican than Goldwater.

She wouldn’t give a shit what her fellow Democrats thought.

.

22 Apr 12 at 1:09 pm
Ballot boxes were stuffed to ‘win’ election…

LEAKED STRATFOR EMAILS: Democrats Manipulated The 2008 Election Results.

More on this developing scandal:

What we do know is this: First, that people in the McCain campaign thought they had evidence of election tampering that cost McCain the election. Second, that McCain thought it best for the country to do nothing about it, in part because of fears of mob violence.

Gutless call from McCain.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 1:10 pm
James

I’m referring to people like joe Lieberman and the owner of the
The News of the World types

Jc　

22 Apr 12 at 1:16 pm
Wa-Po, March 25, 2007:
For Clinton and Obama, a Common Ideological Touchstone

Alinsky thought highly of 21-year-old Rodham, a student government president who grew up in the Chicago suburbs. She was in the midst of a year-long analysis of Alinsky’s aggressive mobilizing tactics, and he was searching for “competent political literates” to move to Chicago to build grass-roots organizations.

Seventeen years later, another young honor student was offered a job as an organizer in Chicago. By then, Alinsky had died, but a group of his disciples hired Barack Obama, a 23-year-old Columbia University graduate, to organize black residents on the South Side, while learning and applying Alinsky’s philosophy of street-level democracy. The recruiter called the $13,000-a-year job “very romantic, until you do it.”

Today, as Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton face off for the Democratic presidential nomination, their common connection to Alinsky is one of the striking aspects of their biographies. Obama embraced many of Alinsky’s tactics and recently said his years as an organizer gave him the best education of his life. Clinton’s interest was more intellectual — she turned down the job offer — and she has said little about Alinsky since their association became a favorite subject of conservative critics during her husband’s presidency.

Alinsky was a bluff iconoclast who concluded that electoral politics offered few solutions to the have-nots marooned in working-class slums. His approach to social justice relied on generating conflict to mobilize the dispossessed. Power flowed up, he said

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 1:17 pm
The left’s war on science has predictable results:

Studies Suggest Massive Increase In Scientific Fraud.

According to some, the financial incentives to ‘cut corners’ have never been greater, resulting in record numbers of retractions from prestigious journals. From the article: ‘For example, the journal Nature reported that published retractions had increased tenfold over the past decade, while the number of published papers had increased by just 44 percent.

Climate ‘science’ is almost certainly driving the growth of money-chasing fraudulence, though we’ve also seen the Lancet, for example, commit deliberate fraud as part of a jihad against non-leftists like Bushitler.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 1:17 pm
James:

Try ‘dragging it out’ of Andrew Breitbart.
Or you could try making a rebuttal to his argument.

Posting a link to someone arguing your case is not the same as actually arguing your case. Fail. Even a short quote is okay… a link, nope, try again. Unless you’re too stupid to actually explain your own position.

Or perhaps ur so facile that you want argue on whether their is an armed civil war presently?

I say there isn’t. You think that’s “naive rubbish.”

Ur a clown dd.

“ur”? More evidence that you’re a teenager, which is how you frequently sound. Don’t worry James, you’ll get laid eventually, and thence lose some of that pent-up aggression.

daddy dave

22 Apr 12 at 1:18 pm
Clinton says Byrd joined KKK to help him get elected

“They mention that he once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, and what does that mean? I’ll tell you what it means,” Clinton said. “He was a country boy from the hills and hollows of West Virginia. He was trying to get elected. And maybe he did something he shouldn’t have done, and he spent the rest of his life making it up. And that’s what a good person does. There are no perfect people. There certainly are no perfect politicians.”

Byrd joined the KKK in 1942 and was elected leader of his local chapter. Byrd later claimed to have become “disinterested” after about a year.

Byrd vigorously opposed the integration of the military, and wrote in 1946 that the KKK was “needed today as never before.”

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 1:18 pm
We can do this the easy way or the hard way, James. You can either admit that I was right immediately, or I can drag it out of you like a rotten molar

Ur last comment obviously achieved the stated objective dd.

Well done.

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
Ur last comment obviously achieved the stated objective dd.

To clarify: You’re admitting I was right?

daddy dave

22 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
Well, Gaza is itself a zoo full of mistreated humans managed from Jerusalem.

Correction – managed by Hamas who have turned the place into a terrorist squat.

Viva

22 Apr 12 at 1:26 pm
As Lieberman, an Independent often says the Dems left him not the other way around.

Lieberman calls himself a ‘John Kennedy Democrat’

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 1:28 pm
To the facilely inane dd and to clarify: no

JamesK

22 Apr 12 at 1:29 pm
Lieberman calls himself a ‘John Kennedy Democrat’

Those types. There are still a hell of a lot of voters that fit that mold on the east coast.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 1:34 pm
To the facilely inane dd and to clarify: no

Since you’ve got nothing but random links and low rent text-message abuse to offer I think we can declare this file closed.

daddy dave

22 Apr 12 at 1:35 pm
Mistake… not News of the World…

It’s U.S. News & World Report and owned by Mort Zuckerman.

Mort is the other liberal type

JC

22 Apr 12 at 1:38 pm
JC, I’m beginning to come around to your view of Ashby/Slipper. Something about an hysterical whiner convicted of telephone harrassment strikes me as distinctly unworthy of sympathy. If he didn’t like working there, he should have got another job.

As for Slipper, if he is a closeted gay, I fell sorry for him and his family and won’t take any delight in this.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 2:12 pm
Jim Crow redux…

Has the Democrat Party banned blacks from working at Obama election headquarters in Chicago?

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 2:24 pm
The Gazans should go back to where they came from.

Correction – managed by Hamas who have turned the place into a terrorist squat.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 2:27 pm
Ahahahaha.

Bolt’s Abbott Abbott Abbott bit was very funny.

And Natasha Stott Despoja praises Costello for saving Australia from the GFC. Well I’ll be.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 2:35 pm
I know, it’s truly pathetic, CL. And the Right shouldn’t be buying into this crap.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 2:36 pm
I disagree JC & CL. If he Slipper has harassed Ashby then the law must take it’s course. But you are possibly right that this is a case of love gone wrong. Time and court proceedings will tell.

But I agree that who he consensually sleeps with is none of our business. I am glad Howard did nothing when someone showed a photo of Slipper cuddling a guy.

At the end of the day there is a simple rule here, don’t screw, try to screw, etc someone in your workplace. It almost always turns out bad.

John Comnenus

22 Apr 12 at 3:21 pm
Can you imagine the howling from the left if Howard had acted on a photo of an mp cuddling another man? He was right to ignore it.

Abu Chowdah

22 Apr 12 at 3:35 pm
The Gazans should go back to where they came from.

Egypt and the Arabian peninsular, according to the Gazan interior minister.

Abu Chowdah

22 Apr 12 at 3:37 pm
John C – please see my comment on the new slipper thread.

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 3:42 pm
Well, I’ve just been engaging in one of the most banal activities known to humankind – ironing, including my latest new shirt.

Since the guy’s done such a great job on it, I’m going to give him a plug:

My new Tailor.

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 3:45 pm
The Gazans don’t have house keys for houses in Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 4:01 pm
“Byrd vigorously opposed the integration of the military, and wrote in 1946 that the KKK was “needed today as never before.”

I just don’t understand the anti-black thing that some overt racists seem to have in an overhanded way, and that the ecological extremists and the elite shadow government would seem to have in an underhanded way.

I’m racist to the extent that if a gang of black kids confront me in the park, and I’m holding a tall cold one, and I’ve a wallet thick with cash …. and supposing they ask for five dollars, and ask for a drink from my long tall cold one, and supposing I perceive this as a threat as some of them walk behind me.

Well THEN I”m racist.

But its not so much me wanting to diss Byrd. Or diss the greenie closet eugenicists, that I am more-than DEEPLY …… suspicious-of.

I simply cannot get inside their heads. Its like with Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein. I don’t understand the latter two. I understand Mussolini about 80% or more and I disapprove. I understand Hitler about 30% and of course I disapprove to a great degree.

I cannot understand the other two. They don’t seem human to me.

I’d be interested in the thoughts of the rest of you. And yes yes yes yes yes ….. Hitler was a bad bad man and a socialist and I want to agree with that pre-emptively.

Hitler. Very bad.

Very very bad.

Of African and Jewish descent by the way but very very bad. I’m not being sarcastic. I agree that he was a socialist and a very bad man.

Doc Simmons

22 Apr 12 at 4:26 pm
OMG my dog is back!

I thought some leftist had eaten him. Bloody cannibals. You can’t trust those buggers, they would eat their own children if they got hungry enough.

Samson! here boy! Sit! good boy!

Now bark some inanity!

Irving J

22 Apr 12 at 4:28 pm
Come on man. Just try and make Samson comfortable and hear him out. There may even be a few things you can school him on and vice versa.

Doc Simmons

22 Apr 12 at 4:33 pm
Howdy all,

Meester Blair has confirmed that the Bunyip is alive and well and sends his best.

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 4:40 pm
Mussolini and Saddam are just your run-of-the-mill dictators, but Stalin and Hitler are in a league of their own.

I can’t understand how Bush and Obama still consider America to be a democracy.

I simply cannot get inside their heads. Its like with Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein. I don’t understand the latter two. I understand Mussolini about 80% or more and I disapprove. I understand Hitler about 30% and of course I disapprove to a great degree.

I cannot understand the other two. They don’t seem human to me.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 4:42 pm
Obama inspires potential killers, race hatred:

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — George Zimmerman is getting out of jail. Now his defense team has to worry about keeping the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of gunning down Trayvon Martin safe on the
outside…

Defense attorneys for other high-profile clients who awaited trial on bail had advice for how to protect the man whose shooting of the unarmed black 17-year-old sparked nationwide protests: Get him out of Florida, keep him from going out in public and never leave him alone.

Zimmerman appeared to be wearing a bulletproof vest under his charcoal suit, and his wife and parents testified by telephone instead of in the courtroom because they said they’ve been threatened and feared for their safety. His wife, Shellie Zimmerman, testified she had received hate mail.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 5:09 pm
I can’t understand how Bush and Obama still consider America to be a democracy.

We know SA, we know, such complex thoughts makes your brain hurt.

Stick to the hate and the bile you love, though we can see it is a clear sign of a simple and rigid mind.

Token

22 Apr 12 at 5:30 pm
SA/DS, I don’t know what the hell you’re up to, but suddenly coming up and asking for a reasonable discussion is not on the cards after your past history.
Try again.
I don’t trust either of you.

Winston Smith

22 Apr 12 at 5:42 pm
The Roar Score – extra time looms in the Grand final!

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 5:55 pm
Yes, self-deception is hard to omprehend.

On the other hand, police state thinking and methods are easy to spot.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 6:01 pm
And that is why soccer is shit.

Jumpnmcar

22 Apr 12 at 6:08 pm
Perth ripped off – the berisha dived.

Controversy will ensue…

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 6:10 pm
And that is why soccer is shit.

-jump.

Amen.

Doesn’t The Collective insist that soccer now be called “football”?

I suppose re-naming it “football” it is better than the traditional “wogball”.

Pedro the Ignorant

22 Apr 12 at 6:13 pm
I don’t care what it’s called Pedro, until they have a scoreline of 20 combined goals it will always depend on the reffs performance( who was wrong) and not the players.

I’ll start to follow soccer if the goal is 4 metres wider and 2 metres higher. Maybe.

Jumpnmcar

22 Apr 12 at 6:22 pm
Soccer – The Beautiful Game:

100 asylum seekers involved in soccer brawl.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 7:18 pm
100 stupid, lazy, violent, insoluble welfare grubbing bigots involved in brawl.

I’m shocked.

Actually I’m not.

As you were.

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 7:33 pm
You seriously think this is representative of asylum seekers?

You are off your head.

.

22 Apr 12 at 7:36 pm
You seriously think this is representative of asylum seekers?

There’s been a veritable litany of these types of incidents, especially over the last few years (none that were soccer ‘related’ though, apart from this one).

Too many to bother listing, quite frankly.

Thanks laybore!

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 7:44 pm
No really, how many?

.

22 Apr 12 at 7:55 pm
“I can’t understand how Bush and Obama still consider America to be a democracy.”

They don’t already that is four of us that know its a big fucking scam. In the last 60 years only Kennedy and Reagan have broken out of their blinders to some small degree and both of them were shot.

Doc Simmons

22 Apr 12 at 7:55 pm
Are you kidding?

They’re so commonplace the meeja just yawns and looks elsewhere nowadays.

There have been riots, arson, hunger strikes, roof protests, rapes, assaults, FFS, need I go on?

Bolt covers every incident on his blog.

This is about who we are allowing to barge into this country – dishonest, pushy scum who destroy their ID so we have no idea who they really are.

Sick of it.

Rabz

22 Apr 12 at 8:03 pm
who destroy their ID so we have no idea who they really are.

ID tells all who one is? What a tool.

There have been riots, arson, hunger strikes, roof protests, rapes, assaults

Yep. And that was just on the First Fleet!!

Pussie

22 Apr 12 at 8:19 pm
There have been riots, arson, hunger strikes, roof protests, rapes, assaults, FFS, need I go on?

Yes, you do.

This is about who we are allowing to barge into this country – dishonest, pushy scum who destroy their ID so we have no idea who they really are.

No. Most of them get asylum. Rightly so.

.

22 Apr 12 at 8:19 pm
Is Phil back again?

Token

22 Apr 12 at 8:30 pm
So we keep in Australias version of guantanamo, illegally take years to hear their cases, make them endure deprivation of an extreme variety

and wonder why they riot?

Perhaps if they worked in that time their cases were heard they would earn more, add some demand to the economy, be able to pay their own bills (instead of the taxpayer paying all of theor bills. Sure there might be a problem with a few more coming in boats but many more come by plane and have always done so).

You cant stop this. Inflexible labour flees inflexible violations of labour rights and poverty everywhere. Capital may be free in our times but labour is less so but labour works to free itself when the survival instinct is pushed to do so.

Why fight it?

We welcomed Greeks, Italians, and others in our past who worked often in the lowliest jobs to get a start, added to the cash economy, then added to the real economy ….

No-one these days calls a greek or Italian an unwanted immigrant.

Get another generation of wisdom and time under your belt before you mouth off Rabz.

Alice

22 Apr 12 at 8:33 pm
Rabz is a gabbler.

Pussie

22 Apr 12 at 8:34 pm
There is nothing token about our asylum seekers. We embrace them all, or so we should.

Pussie

22 Apr 12 at 8:36 pm
“This is about who we are allowing to barge into this country – dishonest, pushy scum who destroy their ID so we have no idea who they really are.
Sick of it.”

Rabz is speaking for most Autralians. Also families of asylum seekers are brought in later.

People do wonder if there’s a ‘bad egg” amongst the immigrants – ie, a bomber. really truly people wonder if our security is good enough and know it is not. that’s what Australians worry about.

let alone the economic cost.

candy

22 Apr 12 at 8:38 pm
It is Phil. So we’ve got Bird, MaxScream & Phil all at the one, ’tis going to be a hoot.

Token

22 Apr 12 at 8:42 pm
Rabz is so right and cool: “This is about who we are allowing to barge into this country – dishonest, pushy scum who destroy their ID so we have no idea who they really are.
Sick of it.”

Most Aussies worry about this issue and wonder if a “bad egg” can come in and threaten our security. No-one is checking! our borders have no security.

let alone economic issues. Australians are fed up with it.

candy

22 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
Yes, you do.

Drunks usually do, dot.

Pussie

22 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
Id rather have them (the boat people) adding to cash economy myself…washing dishes etc doing jobs some lazy Aussie wont do.

You know what? They wouldnt mind for a while (to get to stay here would prob be greatful) and thats a damn good thing.

What a waste of damn labour because the government wants to play the politics of racist bigotry and hatred.

Jeez I hate boat people politics….overdosed on it. Big Red plays the “we hate boat people song”, Tiny Yabbott croons along in harmony…every election it gets rammed down our throats (the fear the fear)…while they imprison mentally ill Australians in detention camp who authorities mistake for illegal immigrants.

Its the government stupid.

Alice

22 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
my comments are being sent into cyberspace, sorry if i offended, my apologies.

candy

22 Apr 12 at 8:50 pm
Romney senior adviser tweets:-

“in hindsight this is a chilling photo”.

check out around the 50 second and listen to them laughing their heads off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaFdbzmK0jM&feature=player_embedded#!

Add that to the Odumbo is gone meme.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 8:55 pm
Why fight it?

Alice does the number two billion mean anything to you? This is how many people live on about $5 per day or less and would probably come with an open border.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 9:05 pm
JC – that you tube not even funny…there is something wrong with the laugh box.

Alice

22 Apr 12 at 9:07 pm
Further point Alice it is only the middle class who have the means to come here not the poor people.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 9:07 pm
kelly – its the **** $5 crappy bucks a day that is the real problem

Alice

22 Apr 12 at 9:08 pm
Well kelly – I dont mind a middle class arrival – might make smarter immigrants oops PIC

Alice

22 Apr 12 at 9:09 pm
Do they have madatory detention in NZ? Anyone know? Does NZ look overun to you? Uts still a damn long way for a poor refugee to pay for…
Greece, Italy, Euro – hell of a lot closer (and the Euros deserve it more for playing god with the currency).

Alice

22 Apr 12 at 9:12 pm
Alice:

You may not think it’s funny, but they did and their laughter is pretty infectious.

The reply is funny. Deadly so.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 9:13 pm
The middle class from war torn countries can be a mix of skilled types and also criminal types. There is no easy answer but stopping this type of travel as much as possible is a good idea. Accepting refugees only creates more refugees. Same as giving money to beggars.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 9:14 pm
Candy:

Most Aussies worry about this issue and wonder if a “bad egg” can come in and threaten our security. No-one is checking! our borders have no security.

The answer is yes. For example we have had LTTE senior officers, torturers, weapons officers and financiers identified in the surface illegal immigrant flow.

That is WHY they dump all documents (not something you can do on the air side).

For every one we have caught, how many have slipped through?

We have no idea.

Mk50 of Brisbane

22 Apr 12 at 9:15 pm
The latest Phil is gone.

Sinclair Davidson

22 Apr 12 at 9:15 pm
Trying to watch Beaconsfield, the movie.

Wondering if six years is long enough….

And thoroughly annoyed when, in the darkness of the mine we see the two survivors, and it is really a dark shot, and an advert for Big Bang Theory, in bright colour and it’s about a third of the screen high – annoying as hell.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 9:19 pm
Accepting refugees only creates more refugees.

Hmm yes it’s our fault that Indonesia has double standards and that there legitimate concerns like the Sudanese civil war, oppression in Iran, etc…

.

22 Apr 12 at 9:25 pm
that there are…FFS

.

22 Apr 12 at 9:26 pm
“Sure there might be a problem with a few more coming in boats but many more come by plane and have always done so”

Really?? I know plenty of alleged asylum seekers who come by plane. They are students who come here on student visas to get a degree. After getting their PhD they then try and get permanent residency by claiming that it is dangerous for them to go home.

Hence the success rate for claiming asylum by people who fly in is low (20%). And i would suspect that the 20% who are successful are lying.

It is bad because these fraudulent plane people take up one of our 14,000 asylum places. Most refugees cannot afford or even get a visa to fly in.

Howards system was better. We chose which of the 14,000 refugees we would take. Now the people smugglers are chosing for us.

Neil

22 Apr 12 at 9:28 pm
Dot
If you want to make it into a moral issue then accepting refugees encourages dictators to oppress groups they do not like knowing that they can get rid of them.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 9:30 pm
SIgh.

FFS, there are some morons infesting the site tonight.

Pussy (perfect declaration of personality, that):

ID tells all who one is? What a tool.

Even where false, yes it does. You know where the basic passport was forged, altered, lost by original owner. Then the airline that brought them in sends them out on the next plane.

Happens every day.

That’s why they dump their docs. Everything.

Then the illegal says ‘I am Achmed Derkaderka from Mohammadville, Afstan, and I am a poor oppressed hazara. You then have to question and get the story and this takes weeks to months as they change it to draw out the time. Then you send someone to Mohammadville, Afstan, and you catch him out because he does not know the right name of the mosques imam, where the breadshops are etc, and no-one can ID the photo.

Then you go back and point all this out. he then says ‘wrong village, it’s Mohammadville in THAT province. So you have to do it all again. And again, and again.

Each iteration is $30-$50K

meanwhile, they know that useful cretins are beavering away using the Australian courts on their side.

It’s a huge joke to them. Most of the protests etc are staged and why not?

What’s waiting is endless free money, free houses, ability to bring the rellies over for their free money and houses. It’s a living standard beyond their wildest dreams and it’s all free.

And in far too many cases we have no idea who they are, and they develop a searing contempt for Australia and all its values. Because these ones think Australia soft, effeminate, weak, yet rich and ripe for the plucking.

And Juliar agrees with them, not the bulk of the population who despise her for losing control of our borders.

Mk50 of Brisbane

22 Apr 12 at 9:30 pm
You may not think it’s funny, but they did and their laughter is pretty infectious.

The reply is funny. Deadly so.

Wow, MSNBC laughing at Obama.

Axelrod is a genius.

Token

22 Apr 12 at 9:31 pm
Sure there might be a problem with a few more coming in boats but many more come by plane and have always done so”

This argument annoys. Those that come by plane – have they ditched their identity papers? Have they paid the pilot around $10k to fly them here illegally? No.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 9:31 pm
Those that come by plane – have they ditched their identity papers? Have they paid the pilot around $10k to fly them here illegally? No.

Have they used those same papers to fly to Indo/Malaysia then got rid of them? Have they paid that $10k to a people smuggler to put them & their families at danger at sea?

Token

22 Apr 12 at 9:34 pm
Obviously, the “asylum seekers” that are arriving by boat, with very occasional exceptions, are not fleeing any particular danger and have a very low purchase on our compassion. Plus, they are almost all Labor voters and highly welfare dependent. Howard’s policy was much cheaper and more humane, but it would be even better to just have a general policy of not showing mercy to Labor voters or potential Labor voters, and only to allow non-hateful, Liberal-voting refugees into the country.

Fisky

22 Apr 12 at 9:38 pm
Love wins it…Utah Republicans put up an unexpected candidate

Token

22 Apr 12 at 9:38 pm
Australia is literally a pot of gold. People wanting some of that gold will come if the effort and risk are worth the prize. We could offer anyone who wants it a $1 per hour job with food and accomodation for 10 years then they will be entitled to citizenship. This is not oppressive and I expect we would have an influx of poor people but none of the people we currently get, my idea might be a little generous so maybe would have to be scaled back in some way.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 9:40 pm
Come on man. Just try and make Samson comfortable and hear him out. There may even be a few things you can school him on and vice versa.

samson did try to say something, but when he met a simple counter argument he immediately skulked back to trolling.

if he has something besides trolling to contribute then by all means bring it on, always willing to have a robust debate, if all he wants is to troll then pwnage it it

Irving J

22 Apr 12 at 9:42 pm
Romney goes retro, borrows a classic from Thatcher 1979…

Don’t the lefties hate it…you can see another sucker punch coming as it seems they are looking for a way to bring up Biden’s famous plagiarising of a Neil Kinnock speech.

Token

22 Apr 12 at 9:43 pm
Trolling would be an improvement on the infantile abuse and name calling some people pretend to themselves is an argument.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 9:44 pm
And the $90k plus plus plus gift basket they receive is a not a major drawcard. Noooo. What other nation provides such a generous welcome?

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 9:44 pm
We could offer anyone who wants it a $1 per hour job with food and accomodation for 10 years then they will be entitled to citizenship.

Kelly – Give Chris Bowen a ring. He obviously has no ideas at the moment. Might not fly with their ACTU paymasters though.

H B Bear

22 Apr 12 at 9:45 pm
Sinclair, would it be possible for “Samson” to join Phil? Just for a bit?

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 9:45 pm
Honest julia and dishonest john both ran massive immigration programmes and the people don’t like it.

So the Literals piss on a few boat people to fool the punters.

And Juliar agrees with them, not the bulk of the population who despise her for losing control of our borders.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 9:47 pm
The Catholic Inquisition strikes again.

Should I make an auto da fe?, my dear Micks.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 9:52 pm
Kelly – Give Chris Bowen a ring. He obviously has no ideas at the moment. Might not fly with their ACTU paymasters though.

Bear
I would actually prefer such as system as I suggested as we could help far more people but ironically it would not go down well in public because we prefer to select a very small number and give them everything even if they do not give back. Most do give back but many do not.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
Kelly – have you ever thought about a career in people trafficking? Those sort of arrangements are very popular in Eastern Europe I believe. Except the citizenship bit though.

H B Bear

22 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
Formula 1 is on – I think my preferred bull at the moment is red.

Samson Agonistes

22 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
LOL
Beaconsfield.

Steve Vizard plays Mike Carleton.

Shorten is played by…. Shorten.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:00 pm
Really? Shorten is an actor? Or is it just news clips, Kae?

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 10:01 pm
Kelly – have you ever thought about a career in people trafficking?

Bear has to be a state regulated thing. Having different pay scales for foreign workers is not uncommon and legal in many countries. Offering $1 per hour plus all the extras would help many people. I have never heard of citizenship offered though.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 10:02 pm
When things get a little bit crazy in the world of Australian politics there is one place I know that can make sense of it all – Bob Ellis’s Table Talk:

And now it is Peter Slipper, whose vote is keeping the Labor Party in power, being accused, in a week when popular policies (care for the elderly, care for the disabled, a balanced Budget, a surprise pullout of troops from a stupid war) may have put Labor’s vote up to 49 or 50, being accused of sexual harassment in the workplace of a youngish petulant male.

We are to be told that no money passed between Murdoch’s people and the accuser, and the young man was not himself an agent provocateur. Well, we will see.

Bob Ellis reporting from the grassy knoll.

H B Bear

22 Apr 12 at 10:03 pm
It’s news clips, Gab. But why is someone playing Carleton?

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:04 pm
I imagine it’s an Australian production, Kae. Who knows why they do the things they do and do so badly.

Gab

22 Apr 12 at 10:06 pm
Oh wait, Carleton is investigating the practices at the mine.

Oops, Richard Carleton, not Mike. Oops, my error.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:08 pm
I had a sleep survey last night. Call it a sleep test.

I failed.

Came home and had to sleep more!

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:09 pm
How Shorten became relevant/important during Beaconsfield defies belief. He gave some press conferences. Didn’t save anyone. Just kept talking and talking. All of a sudden he was a “future leader”. The gene pool at the ALP is shallow. He did the same thing during the Qantas drama. Would hate to get stuck between the preening squib and a camera.

Tiny Dancer

22 Apr 12 at 10:09 pm
Bit like Anna Bligh’s flood MO, TD.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:10 pm
Do we know who supplied Richard Carleton’s quince paste?

H B Bear

22 Apr 12 at 10:11 pm
Bligh learnt it from Beattie. I suspect he could become homicidal if someone interrupted his interview.

Her effort during the floods almost led to canonisation in the press. Her Qlder speech was embarrassing. I can cop it for 80 minutes on state of origin night, if we are winning, but plenty of people cringed.

Tiny Dancer

22 Apr 12 at 10:16 pm
If you want to make it into a moral issue then accepting refugees encourages dictators to oppress groups they do not like knowing that they can get rid of them.

Surely it beats shooting them in a ditch and backfilling the overburden?

.

22 Apr 12 at 10:20 pm
Richard Carleton…is a “chequebook journo” and a “24 carat pissant”

.

22 Apr 12 at 10:21 pm
It’s OK, Carleton has just karked it.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:38 pm
Tiny
I’m still annoyed that Bligh got in.
And that moonface got out.

kae

22 Apr 12 at 10:40 pm
Surely it beats shooting them in a ditch and backfilling the overburden?

Most dictators do not prefer this method as it attracts too much attention. Ok some do and there is not an easy way to make the world a great place which is inherant in any talk about refugees. Our acceptance of 15000 or so is not even a drop in a bucket.

kelly liddle

22 Apr 12 at 10:49 pm
“Richard Carleton”

Tough guy. Tougher than you or me will ever be.

Tough guy and sorely missed.

Doc Simmons

22 Apr 12 at 10:52 pm
Tough? How was he tough, Bird? He interviewed people. That’s it.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:04 pm
Good mate of mine spent a number of years with Carleton on the road. Reckons his first thought was always the safety of his crew. Much revered.

Pickles

22 Apr 12 at 11:07 pm
So Bolt’s trolling his own blog again: “These are boys, not bikies”

http://trololololololololololo.com/

PS I thought it was raaaaacist for honkies to call black men (and an 18 year old is a man) “BOY!” …

sdog

22 Apr 12 at 11:07 pm
Multiculturalism…

The UK left’s war on women:

UK medics filmed offering female genital mutilation, report says.

FEMALE genital mutilations have been performed on up to 10,000 women in the UK, with some medics offering to carry out the brutal surgery on girls as young as 10, a report claimed today.

A doctor, a dentist and an alternative medicine practitioner were filmed telling undercover reporters from The (London) Sunday Times that they would carry out the illegal practice, or arrange for it to be done, on females in Britain.

Naturally, the words ‘Muslim’ and ‘Islamic’ don’t appear in the report.

C.L.

22 Apr 12 at 11:11 pm
WTF?
Widespread FGM in Britain? That fucking place has become a freaking sewer. Thank God Maggie doesn’t know.

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:16 pm
The Tea party doing their best to get rid of more RINO’s. God Bless them.

SANDY, Utah — Sen. Orrin Hatch failed to clinch his party’s nomination at the state GOP convention Saturday, ensuring a June primary against state Sen. Dan Liljenquist.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75425.html#ixzz1sm83ZcWr

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75425.html

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:23 pm
Islamic demographics

the kosovo-isation of europe is all but guaranteed this century.

Non-muslim populations are rapidly being persecuted out of the middle east. Traditional muslim countries are 100% muslim, there is virtually no multiculturalism, even in a modern muslim country like Turkey.

Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent

brevik has brought into the open the debate on the suicide of Europeans, the number of lives lost in that incident will pale into insignificance once islam gets going.

if you want to see islam in action in Australia, visit the maternity wards of city hospitals anywhere near muslim populations. disturbing.

from our own gov:
“Census data shows that the Muslim birth rate in Australia is a significant factor towards Muslim population growth. Also, it shows that Muslims in Australia are increasing at an unprecedented rate from within.”

Australia’s birth rate is below replacement at 1.7 and the muslims living here are at 2.7. draw your own conclusion.

The hard reality is a few more boat loads will make no difference, but stopping them is a strong symbolic gesture.

Irving J

22 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Carleton was a dick, and in tis case I am happy to speak ill of the dead. There was the episode when he indulged in a bit of Canberra bashing, showing of a leafy street of diplomats houses as if the average public servant could live there, and somehow forgetting that he in fact lived in that suburb.
But worst of all, I have never forgotten that seriously disgusting episode of sixty minutes where he blithely exposed east timorese to the threat of death so he could have some screen shots of people voting. Even worse, asking them how they were going to vote, with an informer following along behind. And then the loser had to be rescued by Tim Fisher:

COMPERE: Well, Tim Fischer has been telling parliament this morning of his role in assisting Channel Nine to get camera tapes out of East Timor. He says it’s in no way compromised his position as leader of the Australian observer team to East Tmor, but during his explanation Mr Fischer also castigated the 60 Minutes reporter, Richard Carleton, for irresponsible and reckless behaviour. Late this morning I spoke to Mr Fischer.

COMPERE: Mr Fischer, could you please explain to us the apparent dichotomy where on one hand you’re castigating Carleton for his reckless behaviour, on the other you’re helping him to bring the camera tapes out for people to see in Australia?

TIM FISCHER: That’s a fair question and, as Richard has kindly revealed that, I’m very happy to explain what happened. In the Liquica police station, Richard was being interviewed by a member of the militia in very aggressive threatening terms. We negotiated that we’d bring them back from the hot spot of Liquica to Dili, but on the basis we took them straight to the Dili police station. The Second Secretary did a good job in that regard.

We came back in that convoy. I had Richard in my car. I had a tense discussion with him but it was brief, it was restricted. We had East Timorese in the car. We rolled into the Dili police station. There was talk about, it became apparent to me that the tapes were there. I had four options; one, diplomatic bag, no way; two, RAAF aircraft, no way; three, send them into the police station with Richard Carlton and, as a fellow Australian, I didn’t think that was wise, but it also might have fallen into the hands of the militia; or four, get them by some way back to the Hotel Dili, and that’s the option I chose.

COMPERE: So, you feel an obligation to assist journalists, Australian journalists, in the pursuit of their careers?

TIM FISCHER: No, to assist Australia in getting those tapes to hell out of that compound and also to make sure that militia did not get the tapes directly and see people on those tapes saying how they’re going to vote, because that would have been a death warrant for those people at Liquica. In April, 50 of them were killed by the militia in the Catholic Church compound in the middle of Licqica.

COMPERE: Obviously a very hard and difficult choice for you. Do you feel that it now leaves you open to charges that, should you have to go back there in the future, that your impartiality, your neutral stance, is somehow diminished?

TIM FISCHER: I’m happy to lay those four options between, before the people of Australia and before any authority, and even before Indonesian authority, because we had to diffuse the situation. We had to get the Australian observer delegation out of the Dili police compound.

I mean, things are very fragile up there and this was a case of doing what was in the overall interests, and I make no apology for it and I had no right to destroy the material. I did not own the material. And, yes, there’s that risk but I’ll back my integrity, a split second decision in the melee, and I just hope and feel for the lives of Australians still working at Licqica right this day.

COMPERE: Tim Fischer was speaking to me earlier today.

entropy

22 Apr 12 at 11:31 pm
I hear ya Bro and lots of Americans are too.

Romney on Keystone: ‘I will build that pipeline if I have to myself’
By Alicia M. Cohn – 04/20/12 06:07 PM ET

Mitt Romney drew a line in the oil sands on Friday, focusing on the controversial Keystone pipeline project opposed by the White House and saying, “I will build that pipeline if I have to myself.”

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/222883-romney-i-will-build-that-pipeline-if-i-have-to-myself

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:41 pm
Honest julia and dishonest john both ran massive immigration programmes and the people don’t like it.

The people are perfectly comfortable with immigration as long as it is orderly, and as long as the people brought in are personally and culturally disposed towards peaceable and productive lives under our laws.

wreckage

22 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
Grope and Change

By Mark Steyn

Unlike the government of the United States, I can’t claim any hands-on experience with Colombian hookers. But I was impressed by the rates charged by Miss Dania Suarez, and even more impressed by the U.S. Secret Service’s response to them.

Cartagena’s most famous “escort” costs $800. For purposes of comparison, you can book Eliot Spitzer’s “escort” for $300. Yet, on the cold grey fiscally conservative morning after the wild socially liberal night before, Dania’s Secret Service agent offered her a mere $28.

Twenty-eight bucks! What a remarkably precise sum. Thirty dollars less a federal handling fee? Why isn’t this guy Obama’s treasury secretary or budget director? Or, at the very least, the head honcho of the General Services Administration, whose previous director has sadly had to step down after the agency’s taxpayer-funded public-servants-gone-wild Bacchanal in Vegas.

All over this dying republic, you couldn’t find a single solitary $28 item that doesn’t wind up costing at least 800 bucks by the time it’s been sluiced through the federal budgeting process. Yet, in one plucky little corner of the Secret Service, supervisor David Chaney, dog-handler Greg Stokes, or one of the other nine agents managed to turn the principles of government procurement on their head. If the same fiscal prudence were applied to the 2011 Obama budget, the $3.598 trillion splurge would have cost just shy of $126 billion. The feds’ half a billion to Solyndra would have been a mere $18 million. The 823-grand GSA conference on government efficiency at the M Resort Spa & Casino would have come in at $28,805.

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/296640

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:54 pm
Lol… Styen is fucking hilarious.

What we know so far is this: All eleven Secret Service men and all ten U.S. military personnel staying at the Hotel Caribe are alleged to have had “escorts” in their rooms that night. All of them. The entire team.

Twenty-one U.S. public servants. Twenty-one Colombian whores. Unless a couple of the senior guys splashed out for the two-girl special. “Some of them were saying they didn’t know they were prostitutes,” explained Congressman Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.

“Some are saying they were women at the bar.”

Amazing to hear government agents channeling Dudley Moore in Arthur: “You’re a hooker? I thought I was doing so well.” It turns out U.S. Secret Service agents are the only men who can walk into a Colombian nightclub and not spot the professionals. Are they really the guys you want protecting the president?

JC

22 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
The Gazans don’t have house keys for houses in Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula.

No, presumably for houses in… Gaza.

Abu Chowdah

23 Apr 12 at 12:04 am
Steyn has hands on experience with a hooker every time he touches himself.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:05 am
STFU Bob.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
The Tea party doing their best to get rid of more RINO’s. God Bless them.

Orrin Hatch is no RINO but he has been around for a long time.

Many people are puzzled as to why they’ve targeted him.

Longevity has to be the answer.

I still think its a good principle to have a two term limit for senators.

Those guys are insanely powerful and not nearly answerable enough especially in safe states.

Orrin Hatch is a fighter and I still think he’ll win the Primary.

But really, he shoulda retired.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
Steyn has hands on experience with a hooker every time he touches himself.

Ur a turd and fuckwit, bob.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:12 am
Thanks, Jimmy.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:17 am
lose Liberals like Mort Zuckerman and you’re not on firm ground.

Mort Zuckerman: President Obama’s Economic Programs Have Failed

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2012/04/20/mort-zuckerman-president-obamas-economic-programs-have-failed

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:19 am
’3-2-1′ plan for GOP win

Rove laid out a “3-2-1″ plan of must-win states for the GOP.

Romney needs to win back three “historically Republican states” — Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia — that Obama won in 2008. Polling indicates Indiana and North Carolina lean Republican, Rove said.

“Virginia, to my mind, is going to be a donnybrook,” he said.

The “two” in his 3-2-1 are Ohio and Florida, large swing states that Obama won in 2008 but Bush won in 2004. Then Romney needs to add one wild-card state such as New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico, Colorado or Nevada, Rove said.

Read more: Rove: Voters need reason to like Romney – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_792116.html#ixzz1smNLdNOm

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:24 am
Democrats expressing buyers’ remorse on Obama’s healthcare law

An increasing number of Democrats are taking potshots at President Obama’s healthcare law ahead of a Supreme Court decision that could overturn it.

The public grievances have come from centrists and liberals and reflect rising anxiety ahead of November’s elections.

Like the carbon tax here they shoved that mostrosity down the voters’ throats even when it was clear that the majority didn’t want it.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:27 am
“I must admit, I scratch my head at the capacity of the president to take four hours off on such a regular basis to go golfing,” Mitt Romney said on Bill Cunningham’s radio program on WLW-AM.

I would think you could kind of suck it up for four years particularly when the American people are out of work,” he added.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:28 am
The Hill: Democrats expressing buyers’ remorse on Obama’s healthcare law

An increasing number of Democrats are taking potshots at President Obama’s healthcare law ahead of a Supreme Court decision that could overturn it.

The public grievances have come from centrists and liberals and reflect rising anxiety ahead of November’s elections.

Like the carbon tax here they shoved that mostrosity down the voters’ throats even when it was clear that the majority didn’t want it.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:28 am
James is right to admonish you, Bob. That was a particularly weak observation on your part. Do better.

Abu Chowdah

23 Apr 12 at 12:28 am
Good article by Zuckerman, but it was for the most part a left democratic critique of Obama’s neo-liberaltarianism.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:30 am
Dennis Shanahan on the most disgusting and criminal Federal government in our history:

When it suits Labor, the defence of not speaking or acting when a police inquiry is under way is used as a shield to fend off uncomfortable questions – such as allegations against MP Craig Thomson or the fate of the $223 million Australia Network television contract.

When it is politically advantageous, Defence Minister Stephen Smith is prepared to flout that principle, offer legal opinions, call for the quashing of military justice decisions and demand the standing down of a senior military officer. Or Communications Minister Stephen Conroy can call in the AFP to investigate media leaks he claims led to the aborting of the Australia Network tender and refuse to talk about awarding the contract to the ABC, only to meekly announce there was “no evidence” from the police inquiry.

Chickens roosting as house crumbles.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 12:33 am
but it was for the most part a left democratic critique of Obama’s neo-liberaltarianism.

No it wasn’t. You’re lying.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:33 am
Thank you, Ab.

But if Obama is not the one actually hooking up its not much of a story.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:34 am
Michelle Malkin: No More “Mr. Obama Is a Nice Guy”

There is a reflexive desire among a certain species of moderate Republicans to be perceived as “civil” by liberal opponents who believe that the mere existence of free-market, limited-government conservatism is an indecent affront to humankind. All aboard the U.S.S. Lost Cause.

This disastrous, bend-over bipartisanship is a hard habit to break. In 2008, Arizona Sen. John McCain rode the “Barack Obama is a nice guy, but vote for me” wave to crashing defeat. In 2012, McCain’s endorsee, Mitt Romney, has made “Barack Obama is a nice guy but in over his head” a standard stump-speech talking point.

Conservatives of good will who’ve watched President Obama brutalize his enemies have one question for the nice-guy niceties: Why, GOP, why?

Romney’s smarter-than-thou strategists explain that he can’t scare off independents and Democrats with straight talk about Obama’s thuggery. But he’s turning off the conservative base, on whom his hold is tenuous. More importantly, Romney’s McCain-lite impersonation is also writing off independents and Democrats who’ve come to realize what the myriad targets of White House bullying have learned the hard way over the past four years: Barack Obama is not a “nice guy.”

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
Damn – what’s wrong with the buttons?

Michelle Malkin: No More “Mr. Obama Is a Nice Guy”

There is a reflexive desire among a certain species of moderate Republicans to be perceived as “civil” by liberal opponents who believe that the mere existence of free-market, limited-government conservatism is an indecent affront to humankind. All aboard the U.S.S. Lost Cause.

This disastrous, bend-over bipartisanship is a hard habit to break. In 2008, Arizona Sen. John McCain rode the “Barack Obama is a nice guy, but vote for me” wave to crashing defeat. In 2012, McCain’s endorsee, Mitt Romney, has made “Barack Obama is a nice guy but in over his head” a standard stump-speech talking point.

Conservatives of good will who’ve watched President Obama brutalize his enemies have one question for the nice-guy niceties: Why, GOP, why?

Romney’s smarter-than-thou strategists explain that he can’t scare off independents and Democrats with straight talk about Obama’s thuggery. But he’s turning off the conservative base, on whom his hold is tenuous. More importantly, Romney’s McCain-lite impersonation is also writing off independents and Democrats who’ve come to realize what the myriad targets of White House bullying have learned the hard way over the past four years: Barack Obama is not a “nice guy.”

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:36 am
You obviously didn’t get to the part about industry policy and a free year of higher education.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:38 am
Job losses were far less under Obama than Bush:

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:44 am
That 3 2 1 strategy is pretty interesting. In the latest Rassy polls Romney is ahead in Indiana and North Carolina. He’s behind in Virginia based on a March poll which is out of date.

Romney is behind in Ohio

However he’s ahead in Pennsylvania.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:44 am
Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:46 am
Bob

There is no recovery and that’s what the election will be about. There’s been no recovery, as Zuckerman suggested.

The election focusing on Bush was in 08, you dummy, not 12.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:47 am
There is no recovery but his conclusions are to the left of Obama.

At least the data shows that Obama stemmed the job losses.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:50 am
Fascinating article in the The Atlantic reviewing an article 80 years earlier which accurately portrayed Hitler as a socialist and accurately predicted the nature of his rule.

10 Things You Should Know About Hitler: Predictions From 1932

1. His violent racial nationalism, which springs from his conviction that the Aryan stocks in general, and the Germans in particular, are a chosen people in whose victorious survival the divine purposes are bound up.

2. His violent animosity to Marxian Socialism as in essence opposed to his ideal of a nationally minded people and a racial state. …

3. His violent hatred of the Jews as the racial enemies of all Aryans, the subtle corrupters of pure Aryan states. These parasites, says Hitler, have made Marxian Socialism, which they invented, the principal tool by which they insinuate themselves into healthy, pure blooded, racial states in order to debase simultaneously the national ideals and the national blood. Destroyers of Aryan civilizations, they remain impotent to create a civilization of their own.

4. His concern for social betterment (‘true Socialism’) as a necessary prerequisite to the acceptance of his ideals by the masses.

5. His contempt for the intelligence of the ordinary man and for a democracy based on faith in his development to higher levels.

6. His contempt for parliamentary institutions as the organs of such a democracy, which substitutes for the decision of a competent leader the majority vote of the incompetent. A parliament, moreover, says Hitler, is the natural field of operations for the Jewish Socialist enemy.

7. His insistence on the power of personality and on the entire concentration of authority in the hands of one leader (up to now, himself).

8. His economic nationalism, with its distrust of international capital and its preference for small, locally controlled business organizations. Hitler fears the banks and all newfangled ideas for controlling credit. He objects to stock companies and stresses the value of personal ownership. In short, he believes in the ruthless subordination of economic interests and economic leaders to racial and national considerations.

9. His insistence that Germany must acquire more land in Europe as a vital requirement for national expansion and progress (after the present corruption of the national blood and the national ideals has been stopped).

10. His insistence that France is the archenemy. France, he urges, must be broken before Germany can undertake to conquer land from Russia (the only possible source).

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:57 am
There is no recovery but his conclusions are to the left of Obama.

Not true, you’re lying and blatantly so.

At least the data shows that Obama stemmed the job losses.

Walk that into the election Bob. Go ahead.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:59 am
“Richard Carleton”

Tough guy. Tougher than you or me will ever be.

Tough guy and sorely missed.

Speak for yourself. I am tougher than a fat creampuff whose contribution to society was asking double barrelled questions. Maybe you’re a bit worried about your weight and cardiovascular health?

.

23 Apr 12 at 1:02 am
Today in Islam…

Or UK Labour triumphant multiculturalism watch:

Muslim gang jailed for kidnapping and raping two girls as part of their Eid celebrations.

A group of Muslim men who abducted and raped two teenage girls as part of their Eid celebrations laughed in court yesterday as they were jailed for a total of 38 years.

The girls, aged 15 and 16, were lured miles from their home to a dingy hostel.

In a horrifying weekend-long ordeal, they were plied with alcohol and repeatedly raped by two men, Shamrez Rashid and Amar Hussain, before being offered to a number of others who also ‘used them for sex’.

The 16-year old was forced to have sex six times with four different men.
The younger victim was raped by one man and then sexually assaulted by another.

One defendant, Rashid, 20, was said to have claimed the girls had enjoyed the sex, which he said had taken place as they celebrated the Muslim festival of Eid.

‘It was Eid,’ he said. ‘We treated them as our guests. OK, so they gave us [sex] but we were buying them food and drink.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:09 am
Read the customer reviews.

Now we know what happened to liar-stevefb™

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000KKNQBK/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 1:11 am
From Swedan – already reeling from a Muslim rape jihad – news of yet another triumph for the multicultural left:

Swedish Muslim Asylum Seekers Arrested For Raping 20 Year-Old Male.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:14 am
I agree with the tone of the piece. However it’s the NYTimes so of course you never really know what was left out.

My question, why allow people like that in the country as it can only do two things. Cause a tightening of laws against everyone, or fuck up things by going multicult like Europe.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/opinion/sunday/a-dangerous-mind.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:25 am
American Professors Gather in Tehran for Occupy Wall Street Conference

An alarming news report from Iran’s Press TV, a propoganda arm of the Iranian government, showing American professors gathering in Tehran to discuss the Occupy Wall Street Movement.

The professors interviewed on Press TV include Alex Vitale of Brooklyn College, Heather Gautney of Fordham University, and John Hammond of City University of New York

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 1:27 am
Wow. Interesting prisoners dilemma. The dude on our right was pretty smart.

http://gawker.com/5903692/must-watch-golden-balls-contestant-wins-with-most-ballsy-move-ever

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:44 am
I’d have chose “steal” and walked with the money.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:47 am
WTF? look who are the biggest interest groups lobbying to continue keeping marijuana illegal.

1.) Police Unions:

2.) Private Prisons Corporations:

3.) Alcohol and Beer Companies:

4.) Pharmaceutical Corporations:

5.) Prison Guard Unions

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/marijuana-lobby-illegal/

JC

23 Apr 12 at 2:24 am
Confirms my boondoggle theory of the war on drugs.

It can’t end because it would leave tens of thousands of people unemployed.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 3:22 am
Happy Monday!

Here’s one for JC: “I’m Tony; I’m a New York City Dog; and I’m Pissed Off.”

http://pissedoffpuppy.tumblr.com/

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 7:09 am
O HAI, PANDA!

Pander pander grovel pander.

Sigh.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 7:30 am
Give Bolta a break Spotty. He’s a Richmond supporter. If you saw their performance agst Geelong yesterday (bumbling incompetent morons seems apt) you’d be writing fuzzythinking stuff too.

WB

23 Apr 12 at 7:32 am
Sure, you may well worry that too many young Muslims aren’t assimilating like this, and follow a faith that tells them to hold themselves apart.

Well, get them to the football. For generations it’s made outsiders follow a team, a slice of Australia, joining them to something bigger than their tribe.

Could someone remind me which other blocs of immigrants forced Australian people & institutions to make so fricken many concessions to them as a condition of peacefully assimilating?

“But, steady. These aren’t Muslim prayer rooms, but places for people from all faiths.”

Oh, bullshit. Just bullshit. These throwbacks won’t even let the second-class female co-religionists of their OWN FAITH pray with them if they’re menstruating.

Pandas. I hate fricken pandas.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 7:53 am
In the paper edition of the SMH today, there is a big “special report” on the NBN.

No mention is made of whether the NBN paid for this or not, but what’s the bet Fairfax didn’t do a 4 page spread out of the goodness of their heart.

boy on a bike

23 Apr 12 at 8:16 am
JC has found a new vocation as a shrink and family therapist …

http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/ezra-pound-one-man-can-make-a-difference/#comment-39556

Isn’t it funny. I’m so used to putting down a lot of what Cambria says, I didn’t get the full meaning of a statement he made. I’ve decided he was right. I got an indication yesterday that one of my girls may come around, and the other one truly isn’t bluffing this time. Essentially I will do what Cambria says. Lets transmute his statement about looking for conspiracy theories, into the idea that I spend too much time on the internet. That may be half of what he meant anyway. And the fact is I drink too much, and both of my girls get disrespectful to me when I do this.

So I’ll take up the Cambria suggestion. If people leave a message here I’ll eventually get back to you. If you see me party-crashing at Catallaxy it won’t be often and it will only be for a short time and a few posts when I do.

I can really change the way I do things now and I’ve only just realised that I have the capacity to do this. I’ve found out everything I wanted to know when this blog started. I’ve found it out and I’ve proved it all to myself. Not only that I’m not tired all the time anymore. There is no reason why I cannot get a lot of stuff done afterwork now. In the past getting through the work week was massively difficult and I was exhausted when I got home and the only thing I was capable of doing was running with anger-charged argumentation and philosophising. I was too tired and shattered for any other undertakings. It was a health and concentration thing, but once I had beaten these problems, still the old habits persist, and the lack of confidence to get many other things done persisted with it.

Only expect me to drop into my own blog now and then between now and about October. But I will respond to posts eventually.

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 8:35 am
13 Pets Who Are Plotting To Take Over The World

They could only be an improvement on the mob we have right now.

I, for one, welcome our new animal overlords.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 8:48 am
13 Pets Who Are Plotting To Take Over The World

Ha! Evil li’l buggers…

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 8:56 am
What is it is moronic lefties that they can not see the trap laid by the totalitarians?

An alarming news report from Iran’s Press TV, a propoganda arm of the Iranian government, showing American professors gathering in Tehran to discuss the Occupy Wall Street Movement.

I guess every generation of moronic lefties has the right to fall for the same old tricks of totalitarians…then to spend the rest of their lives lying and disembling as they pretend they did not act so stupidly.

Haven’t any of them learned from their experience of their hero Chomsky and his adventures with the Khmer Rouge & Mao?

Token

23 Apr 12 at 9:06 am
13 Pets Who Are Plotting To Take Over The World

They better move quickly before they become a delicacy on the plate of the current “Leader of the Free World”

Token

23 Apr 12 at 9:07 am
That dog at #5 looks so fricken evil… I love it.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 9:16 am
I think the hamster is the one to watch

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 9:19 am
What does that Labor shill Borngiorno think of Bleak’s tribute to the happy news on Slipper’s sexual pragmatism?

Anyone seen his latest twits?

Token

23 Apr 12 at 9:21 am
That Leak is a classic.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 9:28 am
…showing American professors gathering in Tehran to discuss the Occupy Wall Street Movement.

Blair’s Law in action…

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 9:29 am
Catallaxy appears to be Bolt’s favourite blog – two links today alone.

A mixed blessing, perhaps …

Matt

23 Apr 12 at 9:32 am
13 Pets Who Are Plotting To Take Over The World

You get in the car, turn on the ignition, look in the rear view mirror and see No.2 glaring back at you. At which point you remember you don’t actually own a dog….

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:47 am
Catallaxy appears to be Bolt’s favourite blog – two links today alone.

A mixed blessing, perhaps …

Indeed, Bolters described the Cat a few weeks ago as ‘rapidly becoming a centre of excellence reason and thought’ or something liek that.

It would explain the extra hit counts here. I’m a refugee from Bolt’s blog myself – with News Limited’s timid moderation, it’s gotten kind of boring.

Trouble is Bolt’s attackers and censors follow wherever he links to – so Sinc may be Mordy & Fink’s next target.

papachango

23 Apr 12 at 9:55 am
“13 Pets Who Are Plotting To Take Over The World”

love the frog No. 11 – reminds me of Mr Burns in the Simpsons saying “excellent!”.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 9:56 am
Social betterment is not socialism and point 2 shows clearly that he is anti-socialist and point 8 shows that he is pro national capitalism.

Point 9 on France as the arch enemy shows no appreciation of the truly global nature of Hitler’s ambitions. In short, this is a useless article.

Fascinating article in the The Atlantic reviewing an article 80 years earlier which accurately portrayed Hitler as a socialist and accurately predicted the nature of his rule.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 10:14 am
love the frog No. 11 – reminds me of…

Just sayin‘…

::whacks self on nose with rolled-up newspaper::

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 10:19 am
Fuck off Agonistes or we sic the right-wing death alpaca on you.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 10:22 am
Recycling confused cliches. Andrew Clark explains Greens leader Christine Milne’s strategy, The Australian Financial Review, Saturday:

POLITICAL forecasting may be a mug’s game but to reverse a nostrum about history, we need to look into the future to understand the present . . . To understand what is going on now in national politics, the observer should first time travel to 2014 . . . Milne is reading the political tea leaves and trying, with her “open for business” approach, to secure some early leverage for what may be turbulent times ahead

.

Yep. That makes sense. What did Gillard say…don’t write crap.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 10:22 am
Do you keep those alpacas on the roof rack, sdog?

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 10:26 am
Panda.

Not a Panda.

Thank you Tim Blair.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 10:28 am
Well they do spit a lot Samson

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 10:28 am
Do you keep those alpacas on the roof rack, sdog?

No, we generally strap them 2×2 to the sides of the black helicopter Karl gifted us back in ’04.

Why?

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 10:31 am
Great article in the WSJ.

Laffer and Moore: A 50-State Tax Lesson for the President

Barack Obama is asking Americans to gamble that the U.S. economy can be taxed into prosperity.

Every year for the past 40, the states without income taxes had faster output growth (measured on a decadal basis) than the states with the highest income taxes.

DavidLeyonhjelm

23 Apr 12 at 10:32 am
Yemen: Sharia Supporters Behead ‘Sorceress’

Warning: Graphic image.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 10:40 am
The fact is that the prosperity of the middle class in america has been taxed out of existence as the upper classes bathed themselves in luxury.

Fortunately for the upper classes, they are the only ones who can be bothered to vote for a government of their peers.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 10:41 am
Samson has switched over to the Occupy fortune cookies for his quotes.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 10:43 am
David, don’t you know the science is settled, the lefty economic consensus denies all evidence of the Laffer curve effect.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 10:46 am
Samson has switched over to the Occupy fortune cookies for his quotes.

Alright. That’s it. UNLEASH THE ALPACAS!

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 10:49 am
Mumble: ‘No no. This Slipper thing is great for the government.’

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 10:53 am
OMG.

JULIA Gillard will join the ranks of Nelson Mandela, Princess Diana and singer Ricky Martin in having an orchid named after her in Singapore. Dendrobium Julia Gillard will be unveiled on the first day of the Prime Minister’s visit to Singapore today…

Orchid variety? Bolt botanical contact says it’s a Dendrobium bigibbum.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 10:57 am
Excellent video from Free Market America:

If I Wanted America To Fail

“I’d cut off America’s supply of cheap abundant energy…for the greater good”. The ending is a kicker.

Applies to Australia too.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 10:58 am
One of the great facts of australian political life is that you just can’t ignore the political opinions and votes of two thirds of the people.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 11:03 am
Mumbles argument is analogous to arguing that the disaster in Stalingrad will fortuitously distract attention from imminent disaster in North Africa.

dover_beach

23 Apr 12 at 11:10 am
Hey Bird:

Could this virus cure cancer?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 11:12 am
I thought you represented the 99% SA, now you’ve dropped to 66.6%. At this rate you’ll be a statistical anamoly by the end of the day.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 11:14 am
They drag that orchid out and name it after anyone of note that visits,it’s the same flower

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 11:17 am
That is fantastic news C.L.

.

23 Apr 12 at 11:22 am
the bigibbum is certainly a beautiful colour tho

candy

23 Apr 12 at 11:26 am
Please join this Facebook group
http://www.facebook.com/groups/438040506209520/

Please pass this on to all your FB friends.
Facebook bought Democracy to Egypt maybe it can do the same for Australia. This group is not about party politics, it is a personal petition to one man, Rob Oakshott to cross the floor of parliament and give the Australian people a democratic Election.

Rob, you backed the wrong horse, nothing wrong with that, we all do it from time to time, thats life. And no one could have predicted it would work out this bad for the ALP / Indep government, no one could have predicted the Thompson and now Slipper scandals. The government only has 18 months to go anyway so there is a simple solution to all of this Mr Oakshott, call a press conference and cross the floor, and give us a vote. It will be a hero move for you the electorate will see you as the cleaner-upper candidate.

(Copied to Rob Oakshotts office)

rodclarke

23 Apr 12 at 11:34 am
Great vid Gab. Thanx.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 11:36 am
Anyone know what’s happened to Shiny? I’m betting it’s the Syd uni affect.

When I saw an ABC interview of some recently dumped Sydney academic saying that he was considered a good teacher but hadn’t published in ages… I thought of the Shinester.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 11:44 am
I’m a great great lateral thinker like that.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 11:45 am
the bigibbum is certainly a beautiful colour tho

Some Singaporean political staffer is obviously a wag orchidist

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 11:46 am
These fucking Euroweenies are living off China. If it takes a serous hit, they’re fucked.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-22/lamborghini-introduces-urus-its-first-suv-in-two-decades.html

Look at the sales stats.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 11:47 am
This Slipper thing is great for the government

Let’s be fair to him – he thinks it means we won’t get to see much of Swanny as we might otherwise have, and that’s a plus.

Tiny Dancer

23 Apr 12 at 11:49 am
the bigibbum is certainly a beautiful colour tho

Hey Candy,

what exercises does she need to do to get that huge bulbous backside back in shape?

Squats obviously. What else?

JC

23 Apr 12 at 11:49 am
rodclarke,

I’d suggest it’s best for Gillard to hang on longer and when the Senate Half Election date is crossed/met in 3013, then go to an Election of the Reps and Senate/2.

Going now and we only get a Reps result

Got to systematiccaly wipe out ALP and Greens and Oakshot and Windsor.

Mike of Marion

23 Apr 12 at 11:51 am
Meant 2013

Mike of Marion

23 Apr 12 at 11:51 am
“Squats obviously. What else?’

yes, lunges and standing leg curls, also go on all fours and abduct leg backwards – that’s a really good one.

I do some others but i’ve forgotten the names.
just google it to get a program of course.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 11:58 am
This Slipper thing is great for the government

Comment # 1 at Mumble’s blog:

Kevin Rudd ….start your engine

Token

23 Apr 12 at 12:06 pm
Here’s the situation at the moment in the lower house:

laybore/greenies/idiots 76 (less slipper and burke) = 74
Coalition/wilkie = 74

burke has the casting vote and apparently, slipper can no longer vote having ‘stood aside’.

oakeshitt as the saviour of Australian Democracy?

I don’t think so…

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 12:08 pm
Rabz

I think that number is wrong.

The Liars Party before Slipper was 2 ahead. It then became three ahead when Slipper moved to the speakership.

Take slipper out and stick a labor person in still puts them 2 ahead as I understand it.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
Parliament is two weeks away and Slipper will probably be ‘cleared’ by then.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 12:16 pm
Bob

Not for nothing but you were predicting a labor Katter coalition in QLD in the last days of the camapaign, you nimrod.

You should be the last fucking moron making political predictions.

In a just universe you would get at least 10 years solitary for making predictions that far off.

STFU.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:19 pm
It is yet another example of a “fake crisis” of governance.

It’s not just silly Catallaxy people at fault about this, though: journalists of all stripes are, with rare exception, writing as if it means the government is about to fall over.

This has been a terrible period of poor media coverage of a government and its policies.

steve from brisbane

23 Apr 12 at 12:21 pm
I’m not sure the coalition can count on Wilkie’s vote, Rabz. Gillard has made him look like a gullible idiot and loser, and such people have a hard time getting re-elected. He’s now in the same position as Oakeshott and Windsor – he knows it’s his last term in Parliament, so he will try to spin it out for as long as possible, no matter how much he hates Gillard.

The way she’s dealt with Wilkie is the only clever thing Gillard’s done in office, come to think of it. Quite Machiavellian.

squawkbox

23 Apr 12 at 12:23 pm
Stepford

Who is suggesting this is an immediate crisis for the Alliance, you mental midget? Talk about setting up your own strawman.

No one here has suggested the government would fall as a result of the Slipper’s alleged antics, you dick.

This is just another in the coffin type thing and shows that the Lying Slapper has the political instincts of a drowned rat having picked up someone with serious personal issues and stuck him in a prominent position.

You moron, stepford. You absolute dope.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:25 pm
JC,

laybore have lost wilkie – I’ve got a spreadsheet with all the ‘members’ on it for reference and following some reshuffling, that’s the situation.

Hence Rod Clarke’s observations above.

To recap:

laybore = 72 (or 71 less burke, deputy speaker)
greenslime = 1
idiots = 3 (windsor, oakeshitt, slipper – who can’t vote)
Total = 74 (75 plus burke as casting vote)

Coalition = 72
Independents = 2 (katter, wilkie)
Total = 74

If oakeshitt bails, it becomes:

gubberment = 73 (74 plus burke)
Coalition = 74 (75 plus oakeshitt)

slipper is out of the equation.

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 12:27 pm
I’m not sure the coalition can count on Wilkie’s vote, Rabz.

That’s my key assumption, it’s true, Squawks.

Anyway, the laybore mole is very depressed. He thinks this could be the end – via a likely no confidence vote.

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 12:30 pm
Rabz, you need to tweak the spreadsheet.

As much as Wilkie loved the world of selling discount rugs, I am willing to bet a lot of money he will not go out of his way to return to that vocation before 2013.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 12:31 pm
Yea I agree Token.. There’s no way Wilkie will want to return to selling carpets before he has to. He’s staying Labor all the way.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:32 pm
Good to see FauxFacts has discovered Dog-Gate.

It will not be a suprise that in that twisted reality they missed the fact that the MSNBC are laughing at Obama over this matter and in their version Romney is in trouble.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 12:34 pm
Hope and Change.

1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed

WASHINGTON (AP) — The college class of 2012 is in for a rude welcome to the world of work.

A weak labor market already has left half of young college graduates either jobless or underemployed in positions that don’t fully use their skills and knowledge.

http://news.yahoo.com/1-2-graduates-jobless-underemployed-140300522.html

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:34 pm
“Gillard has made him look like a gullible idiot and loser, ”

i reckon most people see Mr Wilkie as a man of integrity, not gullible, he’s kind of got that reputation now of holding fast to his beliefs, different to the other independents.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
Tokes,

wilkie can be easily shifted back to the other side of the sheet.

I’ll keep gauging the mole’s views on the current situation…

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 12:36 pm
Neither oahshit nor wilkie are gonna do Gillard over.

Wilkie may not vote or vote with the coalition as long as he’s sure oashit will vote with the government and so the gov will win the no confidence motion despite him.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 12:38 pm
“fake crisis”

Ahahahaha.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 12:40 pm
I know longer bother with Insiders, but I can see from the snip Bolta put up from Snore (Lenore) Taylors piece I’m sure they were ready to announce another Yeti sighting before the news about Slippery Pete got out…

LABOR’S glimmer of hope that the budget might persuade voters to give it a second chance just went out.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 12:49 pm
How the fuck does a tightening budget lure voters your way? I don’t quite get the thinking on that one.

Taylor need to visit a gym too.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:51 pm
Bolt has a round-up of opinions about the Slipper deal, as written by the nation’s love media at the time of his elevation to the Speaker’s chair.

Bernard Keane, Crikey:

The opposition appears to have again been outsmarted by Labor over the speakership as it was in September last year…….

Labor’s end-of-year momentum just picked up considerable speed. It’s a huge turnaround from just a few weeks ago when the government appeared in terminal trouble.

Phil Coorey and Lenor Taylor:

It also adds to early but growing pressure on Abbott’s leadership.

As the curtain closes on 2011, Labor is in a far worse position in the polls than it was at the beginning. But along with a precious extra number it now has, and the passage of most of its contentious reforms done, it finishes with something it has lacked all year – hope.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 12:52 pm
Wilkie will never, never, never vote to bring the Gillard government down and certainly never to support Abbott as PM. If he does, he will never be welcome in polite luvvie company again … I don’t think he has it in him.

Seriously, there is more chance of Windsor bringing down the axe on the Gillard government – and that is slim to none.

Matt

23 Apr 12 at 12:52 pm
FM.

Slipper took a leak out of a window… on video?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 12:56 pm
Who pays these morons to write sludge like this.

Okay, I’ll leave Bernard Keane out of the pic because the Crikey owner is unable to count in past 2 digits when it comes to paying the scribes there, so if you pay peanuts you end up with Bearnard Keane.

But what about Coorey and Taylor? Why the fuck would you pay these two for analysis?

JC

23 Apr 12 at 12:56 pm
Probably right, Matt, but isn’t there a point where his best shot at a political future is to be seen as the hero who brings this disaster to an end?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 12:58 pm
We are so lucky to have these people running our country

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
Watch now as the presstitutes make the Slipper story about Howard rather than Gillard’s stupid decision to make Slipper Speaker.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
Slipper took a leak out of a window… on video?

Hey, the Slapper promoted him. Lets not forget.

She’s a great great negotiator.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:00 pm
Meaning the press will now also protect Slipper.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 1:00 pm
Watch now as the presstitutes make the Slipper story about Howard

Lol..Yea, it’s just starting. Won’t work though as the punters associate him with the Slapper and the Liars Party.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:01 pm
Wilkie will never, never, never vote to bring the Gillard government down and certainly never to support Abbott as PM. If he does, he will never be welcome in polite luvvie company again … I don’t think he has it in him.

Matt, I’ll put forward a contrary view.

Contrary to popular opinion, Wilkie’s desire to avoid becoming a rug salesman excedes his need to be adored by the luvvies.

Therefore, it is likely that if the polling is as bad as Hartcher reports today, he could agree to the vote of no confidence if it would win.

Why? After the vote, in a totally unrelated decision made on a purely economic basis, the Liberals in Tasmania may decide to save election funds and not run a candidate in Wilkie’s electorate.

Considering the polling indicates an anti-Labor landslide Wilkie could hold his seat. Sure he would not have the power, but he would have 3 sweet years where he does not have to look at a discount persian rug.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 1:01 pm
The Old Lezo weighs in:

You know where this is going…

Slanging match over responsibility for Slipper scandal.

A slanging match over who should assume responsibility for the scandal engulfing the Federal Parliament and the stood-aside Speaker, Peter Slipper, has broken out among the major political parties, with a key Independent MP judging neither side to be without “guilt”…

Key crossbencher and Independent rural MP Tony Windsor said that neither side of politics was innocent regarding Mr Slipper.

“I think there’s a bit of guilt on both sides there,” he said.

“The Coalition were trying to shunt him [Slipper] without appearing to not want him any more.

“And then they cried ‘shock horror’ when he did what he did [take the Speaker's job].”

Gillard blames AbbottAbbottAbbott’s Relentless Negativity:

Ms Gillard hit back at Mr Abbott for being “negative about everything” and pointed out that Mr Slipper had been preselected by the Coalition on nine occasions in the past, including the 2010 election.

“[He] was a candidate in that election under Mr Abbott’s leadership,” she told reporters in Singapore.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:04 pm
Slipper took a leak out of a window… on video?

The country’s in the very best of hands.

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 1:05 pm
Meaning the press will now also protect Slipper.

What was the princess Borgorio doing on Sat Gab?

Token

23 Apr 12 at 1:05 pm
Slipper took a leak out of a window… on video?

The country’s in the very best of hands.

Though they’ve kept a straight face and not said a mean word through this process, you can bet Abbott & the team popped champaign in private over the Slipper defection.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 1:07 pm
Heh. I didn’t realise the Labor tart was blaming Howard. Well, there ya go.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 1:07 pm
Bolt has a round-up of opinions about the Slipper deal, as written by the nation’s love media at the time of his elevation to the Speaker’s chair.

I was thinking precisely this yesterday. What the above quotes are examples of is political fluffery.

dover_beach

23 Apr 12 at 1:08 pm
JC
Signed loan documents today looking good for next monday.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:11 pm
Slipper took a leak out of a window… on video

That’s nothing. Gillard’s been doing that to Australia for years – and in plain view of everyone.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 1:12 pm
Kelly, doncha wish you could just hang a For Hire sign on your clapped out Magna and start picking up fares? You should embrace libertarianism. The taxi industry in this country is a North Korean sheltered workshop.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:15 pm
Vintage article by Tim Blair today

ALP symbolism waves goodbye to the future

…Interestingly, Labor prime minister Ben Chifley coined the phrase in 1949, the same year that construction began on the Snowy Mountains Hydro-Electric Scheme. Try launching a similarly visionary plan today, Labor, and see how long your alliance with the Greens survives.

Even the fabled Tree of Knowledge, an ancient ghost gum in Bacaldine, Queensland, is gone. Shearers gathered beneath the tree in 1891 to work out demands for better pay and conditions, much as their current Queensland counterparts gather in the Tarago of Clinical Depression to work out who has some petrol money. But this important Labor symbol died six years ago – possibly due, as Labor insiders sometimes joke, to branch stacking…

Token

23 Apr 12 at 1:17 pm
But what about coorey and taylor? Why the fuck would you pay these two for analysis?

It’s a mystery, ain’t it?

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 1:17 pm
JC
Signed loan documents today looking good for next monday.

Great.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:19 pm
The taxi industry in this country is a North Korean sheltered workshop.

Interesting sheltered workshop where along with fisherman and prostitutes have no minimum income along with having to compete with foreign labour.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:21 pm
That Blair column is a must-read.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:23 pm
Token, thanks for that. Excellent work by Mr Blair. And there’s this bit, which would put an almighty grin on Lucy van Pelt’s. She’d be very proud of Oceanlinx:

Naturally, Labor loves wave power. Peter Garrett turned up for the launch of another Oceanlinx wave power project in March 2010. This device, which received a $2.9 million government grant among other funding, was a “wave to energy barge” intended to feed fresh, shame-free electricity to the Integral Energy grid. Two months later the 170-tonne wave to energy barge waved goodbye, snapping free of its moorings and smashing into rocks before sinking to the ocean floor.

Delightfully, the device’s final act on this earth was to cause a 45-minute power outage.

So we’ve got one wave power machine immobile and another sunk, along with loads of Australian taxes. But, just like Labor’s leaders, Oceanlinx isn’t giving up. Over the weekend local press reported the company was looking at the federal government’s $10 billion Clean Energy Finance Corporation for further cash.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
…with having to compete with foreign labour

Yea, the Chinese Taxi market really fucks up our domestic industry like crazy, kelly.

It’s cheaper to fly to Beijing for a cab than it is to pick one up here.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:24 pm
JC
The labour can be foreign and be here you know. Since there is no income protection like minimum wage the protection for the taxi driver is very low.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:28 pm
JC
Next time you visit your aussie hooker ask her about the foreign competition.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:29 pm
Look what Labor is trying to slip out while the furor over Slipper is raging…

AN investigation into the transfer of rioting asylum-seekers to a Sydney jail has found big gaps in official records of the incident.

Keep an eye out, as this is the prime time for Labor to dump the bad news.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 1:29 pm
Kelly, out of curiosity…

Who chooses what sort of car – Prius or Fairlane – will be cabbified? How come there aren’t any Jaguar cabs, for example?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:32 pm
“…the protection for the taxi driver is very low…”

What?

All other car owners who might like to hire out their vehicles are banned. How much protection do you want?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:34 pm
Gab, I enjoyed that part of the article as well.

Therea are so few Australian writers with Tim’s ability to turn a phrase.

Token

23 Apr 12 at 1:36 pm
CL
The taxi companies and departments of transport for each state or territory decide what types of vehicles are permitted. So for example a Toyota Yaris would not be allowed because it would be considered too small. With a Jag so long as it is a sedan it would be permitted but it is too expensive. In QLDs case if the Jag was considered luxury it would probably be permitted to remain as a taxi for a longer number of years, standard is 6 years in QLD. A Rolls or Bentley can stay on the road forever so long as meets standards like air con. With the licence I am getting it has as a condition that must have at least 5 passenger seats and I must drive at least 100 shifts per year.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:41 pm
Australia’s latest world heritage site…

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 1:46 pm
In 1990, these fuckers traded at around 90G. A few of us were thinking of buying a few and leasing them out, but there’s always the fear the city government will issue more licenses when it’s squirming around for money.

Investors can buy and them them out.

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/21/why-taxi-medallions-cost-1-million/

It’s not a bad return at 11% compound. in fact it’s a great return when the lease rate is also included.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 1:47 pm
Vintage article by Tim Blair today

Sadly, I no longer find any of this amusing. The incompetence of this government is simply unbearable.

dover_beach

23 Apr 12 at 1:50 pm
All other car owners who might like to hire out their vehicles are banned. How much protection do you want?

You must divide the industry up into the segments. Drivers get almost no protection. Licence holders get a lot. I would prefer the protection was lower for the owners and higher for the drivers. The booking companies recieve a lot of protection because every taxi must be connected to a booking company and this should not be compulsory in my opinion so the companies don’t get guaranteed customers and have to work for them. My reason for buying a licence is basically that I can’t make $20 per hour any more or $3 above minimum wage. There is a few reasons for this increased taxes, foreign worker competition, more efficient booking systems and increased density of taxis making it harder to outcompete other drivers. So in real terms my income has dropped but in dollar terms remained fairly constant for 10 years.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:51 pm
Yes JC it is a good return off the backs of workers often getting less than minimum wages.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:53 pm
Kelly, thanks for that. Interesting.

What sort of car are you looking at?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 1:54 pm
CL
The taxi I am buying is already set up and it is a Toyota Avensis and has about 2 years left.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 1:57 pm
Wouldn’t it be funny if Abbott called for a vote of no confidence and Kevni somehow, inexplicably gets caught in traffic and missed the vote.

Entropy

23 Apr 12 at 2:01 pm
Good luck to you, Kelly. Hope it goes well for ya.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 2:01 pm
Yes JC it is a good return off the backs of workers often getting less than minimum wages.

Bullshit. You’re not factoring in tips in NYC which is between 15 to 20% of the fare.

And if you’re not earning enough, don’t go into it.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 2:02 pm
JC
I am in Brisbane tips aren’t compulsory in this country. Now you have reminded me of another income loss. Tips from business customers dried up when cabcharge changed to EFTPOS. Tips depends on the area, in the outer suburbs they are not common and day time they are not common. The primary reason to drive a taxi is because I like it. I would prefer doing something I generally like and small money to doing what I don’t like for big money. I am not complaining even if it might sound like it. I do accept that things change and at times due to my income streams my income will go down.

Thanks CL

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 2:09 pm
The patron saint of taxi-drivers is Saint Fiacre.

This ancient patronage lives on in Vienna.

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 2:26 pm
Le Pen Has Record Vote

Irving J

23 Apr 12 at 3:11 pm
St Fiachra was a 7th century Irish monk who was said to be very fond of a Guinness of an evening.

He’s also said to cure venereal diease so he’s a twofer Kelly.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 3:22 pm
How about that there is a Saint to look after me.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 3:30 pm
Best of luck Kelly and congratulations!

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 3:31 pm
Thanks James

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 3:39 pm
Kelly,
you won’t drive too fast and weave in and out too much will you, like those Yellow Taxi drivers, making us delicate ones car sick.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 3:47 pm
you won’t drive too fast and weave in and out too much will you

Candy no I won’t because too scared of crashing.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 3:52 pm
Thai PM Yingluck Shinawatra to visit Oz in May.

Visually she will be quite an (ahem) contrast to our Julia

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22yingluck+shinawatra&hl=en&prmd=imvnsuo&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=gfCUT9S_EPGUiQeK2fzODg&ved=0CDcQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=835&sei=g_CUT-_SGq-jiAeMs5CdBA

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 4:03 pm
Jason
I assume you mean in the looks department as a PM she is simular. There were warnings about the floods weeks before yet 800 people died. She has a corrupt former PM as a brother and she is considered a puppet of him.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 4:40 pm
Yes, Kelly, hence the word ‘visual’ and the link to Google images.

Her brother is a mixed bag. He is genuinely popular among the poor in Thailand.

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 4:44 pm
Yingluck’s a minx.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 4:50 pm
I love the fact that her party’s name is ‘Thais love Thais’. The Shinawatras are of course Chinese. It will be 100 years before Malaysia would ever allow a PM of Chinese descent.

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 4:51 pm
How’s she been going since her election?

Any changes for the better?

Or just populist socialism from on high?

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 4:54 pm
Jason never clicked on the link.
Her brother is not a mixed bag he is not a nice person. This doesn’t mean everything that Thaksins government did was bad but some things can never be seen as acceptable such as using people to attack people who protest against him. Eventual formation of a militia group when in exile. Many of the redshirt protesters when it got really violent were people paid 200Bt per day(which is the basic wage) and having there ID cards taken and effectively kept as human shields. Most dictators are popular until people realise when it is too late.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 4:54 pm
I don’t think there are any clear ideological boundaries in Thai politics (e.g. she favours higher min wages *and* lower corporate tax). There are aspects of her brother’s rule that were actually alright e.g. he introduced income contingent loans into the university system like Australia’s HECS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yingluck_Shinawatra

Yingluck described a 2020 vision for the elimination of poverty.[28] She promised to reduce the corporate income tax from 30% to 23% and then 20% by 2013 and to raise the minimum wage to 300 baht per day and the minimum wage for university graduates to 15,000 baht per month. Her agricultural policies included improving operating cashflow to farmers and providing loans of up to 70% of expected income, based on a guaranteed rice price of 15,000 baht per ton.[29] She also planned to provide free public Wi-Fi and a tablet PC to every schoolchild (a Thai Rak Thai Party plan to provide one laptop per child was cancelled after the 2006 military coup).[

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 4:57 pm
Kelly, his policies were a mixed bag. It looked like he achieved some very good things in office like cutting rural poverty by half. Hence why he is loved by the majority of the population. But yes his megalomania led to his downfall.

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 5:01 pm
We’d best get a move on, the asteroid miners are getting ready to source the stuff our mines may not yet be allowed to produce.

Winston Smith

23 Apr 12 at 5:03 pm
I don’t think there are any clear ideological boundaries in Thai politics

There are no clear ideological boundaries in the mainstream politics of any country.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 5:03 pm
Jason yes he is loved by those who think he gave them free money. Some of the social programs are ok but the rice thing was paid to the mills so the middle men got a large part of the money. Heaps of loans have put people into poverty not helped them. Healthcare is probably the best thing he did along with opening up of foreign investment.

The current policy of increasing the minimum wage by 50% in one wack will definately hurt small business. As an investor in big companies I am laughing with lower taxes and being able to afford the wage increases.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 5:10 pm
Sure, increases min wages that much in a developing economy is a crazy idea.

His education reforms (school decentralisation)were also good and demonstrated some principle and understanding to push through. he also pushed through privatisation,

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 5:16 pm
Jason
It is not fair to compare Thailand with Malaysia about having an ethnic Chinese person as PM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Chinese

How about meet you halfway Thaksin was good for the country in some ways but it now would be good if he left Thailand alone. One issue I see as a problem with Thailand is that they copy the US blindly and this will lead to problems in the future especially with banking and the non recourse loan.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 5:23 pm
This week’s Essential shows no change except the Coalition up a point on the primary vote to 49%

First preference/leaning to
Total Lib/Nat 49%
Labor 31%
Greens 11%
Other/Independent 9%

2PP
Total Lib/Nat 56%
Labor 44%

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 5:40 pm
No change in the comatose economy either.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 5:46 pm
All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand. – Lady MacBeth

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/battle-for-slipper-peppers-pm-at-singapore-memorial-20120423-1xgk5.html

Viva

23 Apr 12 at 5:46 pm
The Good Professor Bunyip seems to have gone AWOL again. Is he OK or just resting up?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 6:25 pm
Lizzie, according to Tim Blair he’s fine and healthy.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 6:29 pm
Oh dear. That’s sounds like I’m describing stock. I mean the Bunyip is well, however no further information given that I’m aware.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 6:34 pm
Hopefully he is doing some investigation into the slipper

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 6:34 pm
Thanks Gab. I think he is missed by very many, one of our wittiest voices.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 6:43 pm
I think Abbott will be on 7.30 tonight.

Looks like the Coalition may have stopped freezing the ABC out.

Should be interesting.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 6:45 pm
James, I will watch it: need some R and R, although I am always a bit anxious when Abbott is on, how many ums and ahs will he make etc. Have been so busy with packing up boxes I am exhausted.

Tomorrow I am getting an ‘uplift’. That is what the removalists call it when they come and get your stuff.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 6:49 pm
You have my sympathies, Lizzie. Having moved only a few months ago, the memory still stings. Next move I’ll revert to paying someone else to do the packing.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 6:54 pm
Chris Kenny casually dispatches a commentator at Goodly Fabric over the fence:

That is very funny. Gillard as the victim. You could get a job on Senator Conroy’s staff.

H B Bear

23 Apr 12 at 6:58 pm
Caption?

Hi Barry, I’m the Hon. Peter Slipper, I brought dinner.

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 7:15 pm
Good luck with the move Lizzie.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 7:22 pm
Jason
It is not fair to compare Thailand with Malaysia about having an ethnic Chinese person as PM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Chinese

What point exactly did you mean to make from posting that link, Kelly.

Firstly the Indonesian Chinese are just as integrated as Thai Chinese. They actually speak Indonesian *to each other* (including their own family) and were all required to take Indonesian names long ago. That doesn’t stop Indonesians from running amok and burning and looting their shops everytime the price of gasoline rises.

Secondly there’s a chicken and egg problem here. Are the Thai Chinese better integrated because the Thais don’t seem to suffer from any insecurities and didn’t put up any preferential policies in the first place? Relative to Malaysia, it seems so.

Thirdly I wasn’t commenting on the *electability* of ethnic Chinese PMs so much as the fact that Thais treat this as not even worth commenting on. Incidentally I see even the Thai leader of the Opposition is ethnic Chinese. Fact is, if it happened in Malaysia that the leaders of both major parties were Chinese, the Malays would go into a frenzy of paranoia about ‘losing control’ and start burning down and looting shops too.

The Thais seem to suffer less from insecurities and I think that explains why race relations as such are no longer an issue in Thailand compared to Malaysia.

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 7:23 pm
Former Liberal senator and one-time minister for science in the coalition government Nick Minchin, and founder of the Australian Youth Climate Change Coalition Anna Rose.

They feature in a documentary I Can Change Your Mind About Climate that screens on ABC1 on Thursday night, followed by a special edition of Q and A with Tony Jones.

I assume this was mentioned while I was working, a must see I recon.

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 7:31 pm
You can just imagine the Q and A session, can’t you, Jump?
It will consist of a panel of Lefties, all toeing the party line on AGW, and it’s all Abbotts fault anyway.

Winston Smith

23 Apr 12 at 7:37 pm
Well let’s have a looksee at the I Can Change Your Mind (as if) survey results so far, Jump:

ALARMED
You fall in the 26% of Australians, who’ve taken this ‘climate challenge’ who are Alarmed by global warming.

DISMISSIVE:
You fall in the 52% of Australians, who’ve taken this ‘climate challenge’ who are Dismissive of global warming.

17,994 votes.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 7:41 pm
Got a link Gab?
I’d like to vote too.

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 7:44 pm
Here you go, Jump.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 7:47 pm
They feature in a documentary I Can Change Your Mind About Climate that screens on ABC1 on Thursday night

They emailed me to invite me to attend (from their survey I surmise, I must have hit some demographic or other) but I could not bear to even contemplate being there. Don’t know if I can even gather the steam to watch it, but feel I should try to at least view it. Delingpole’s book provides some good figures on the travesty and extent of Green funding which I hope get used.

Depends on the moving situation; thanks Gab and James for your good wishes. As this is a corporate pay courtesy of HIA’s general grandeur, I guess I was silly to want to pack all my own stuff (but I am a bit funny about personal possessions and the critical eye I suspect packers would bring to my loved but battered memorabilia: the Hairy One says mostly chuck it, but I persevere).

Watching Abbott, he is looking and sounding good, but he should learn to just draw a silent breath instead of that ‘uh’ when he pauses.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 7:50 pm
Winston,
Clive Palmer and whoever Rebecca Huntley is.

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 7:51 pm
Ta Gab.( Fuk im a slow typer/ist/ wateva)

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 7:53 pm
Jase imagine if Sing and Malaya stayed as one country?

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 8:07 pm
I am always a bit anxious when Abbott is on, how many ums and ahs will he make etc.

No need to have worried Lizzie – I watched and heard only one um. He’s been in training.

Viva

23 Apr 12 at 8:15 pm
Viva

It would be great though if he looked more relaxed and not have the stare that he’s about to whack someone like Uhlmann in the face with a left hook.

He has a really hard cold stare.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:17 pm
Tal
as you know Singapore was expelled partly because of racial riots there. Partly it was because the very intense Lee Kuan Yew and the artistocratic Tunku Abdul Rahman couldn’t get along.

Then there were the 1969 racial riots which the Malay ‘ultra’ nationalists used as an excuse to get rid of the Tunku (who was a good man – it was unfortunate they happened under his watch). I think the rot started from there.

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 8:18 pm
Would like to see Matias Cormann on Q&A on any subject, He is one smart dude.

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 8:23 pm
Was it good to catch up with your family Jase? Have you lost your weight from ” so much makan lah!”?

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 8:24 pm
Yes to both, tal, thanks for asking. Hope you’re well

jtfsoon

23 Apr 12 at 8:27 pm
He has a really hard cold stare.

Well JC remember that he is a Scorpio.

“It’s said that you can recognize a Scorpio by his stare. That famous stare has become downright notorious in general astrology textbooks and sun-sign columns. Enigmatic, penetrating, probing while revealing nothing, apparently hostile or ruthless. The man with the x-ray vision.”

http://songsdomain.tripod.com/scorpio/index.html

Viva

23 Apr 12 at 8:31 pm
Oh yea, I forgot. He’s a Scorpio. That explains it.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:32 pm
Scorpios always be the passionate ones.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 8:34 pm
i wonder what star sign kevni is.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 8:35 pm
I’m fighting fit Jase I think Graeme has been doing a bit of soul searching yeah?

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 8:37 pm
Of course you would, Candy. Check his stupid wiki page and find out his bithday, you dill. That way you can put your mind finally to rest.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:38 pm
silly ol’ JC my mind is too nice to be put to rest

candy

23 Apr 12 at 8:39 pm
I think Graeme has been doing a bit of soul searching yeah?

Ummmm credit where credit is due, Tal. The idiot was a waste dump for every turgid conspiracy theory on the web and then I’m sure he told “his girls” what he found.

No wonder they took off.

So I helped him find his way again.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:40 pm
i wonder what star sign kevni is.

virgo on the cusp of libra but not free Candy

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 8:43 pm
Here candy, I’ll help you. Wiki says he was born Sept 21 1957 in a car..

(Just kidding, he wasn’t born in a car)

So let me check google what star sign he is.

Google says that he’s a Virgo.

Dunno much about star signs, but virgo doesn’t sound good.

Is that like he’s a virgin or something?

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:44 pm
Yes Joe I think your talents are wasted playing the market,you should become a professional mentor.

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 8:45 pm
virgo on the cusp of libra but not free Candy

There. He’s a virgo on the cusp of Libra. Both don’t sound good at all in fact.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:45 pm
he’s a Virgo, that explains it. the endless detail, strive for perfection, expecting the best of everyone around them, but things don’t turn out the way they want and so things get complicated.

but a sensitive and moral nature.

yep, that’s our kevni.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 8:46 pm
Yes Joe I think your talents are wasted playing the market,you should become a professional mentor.

It’s a hidden talent Tal. If I lose with the market I’ll start up a mentoring business.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:46 pm
Hey, JC, how does Miltons predictions match up with yours?
Some spot on & some loony i’m guessing.

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 8:47 pm
oops. link

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 8:47 pm
Talking about a mentoring business. Our firm had a psychiatrist that we all had to see once every 2 weeks or so to talk about our trading.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:47 pm
Hey Lizzie – best wishes for the move as well.

Staying in Sydney, or moving further afield?

Rabz

23 Apr 12 at 8:48 pm
Eventually the LINK

Jumpnmcar

23 Apr 12 at 8:49 pm
he’s a Virgo, that explains it. the endless detail, strive for perfection, expecting the best of everyone around them, but things don’t turn out the way they want and so things get complicated.

but a sensitive and moral nature.

yep, that’s our kevni.

No it’s not at all.

He was a programmed, micro managing loon with serious mental problems and has a borderline personality disorder.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:50 pm
Hey, JC, how does Miltons predictions match up with yours?
Some spot on & some loony i’m guessing.

sorry, but I’m missing what you’re saying, jump.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:50 pm
Viva – no ums, but a lot of ‘take-in-breath’ ahs. Those communication trainers have to get rid of that, and yes JC, he does have to loosen up a bit and let the eyes roam a little, and get warmer, use some charm (he’s really quite good looking and the slightly cute-but-don’t-mess-with-me act in a powerful man is often appealing, it’s on the Lizzie sexiness form guide ). Otherwise he seems too intense, and that’s what turns women off (like my sister, a classic case of the ‘I don’t know, I just don’t like him’).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 8:51 pm
Pickles 21/4, here’s Sir Les Patterson on the schnauzer topic.

Jeff

23 Apr 12 at 8:52 pm
Oh got it now, Jump. yea, he’s far more accurate.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:52 pm
Mentoring is small potatoes

JC should give up trading and turn to usurping Dr Phil as reality tv daytime psychologist.

We need as Aussie in the role.

Homer could be JC’s first televised ‘cure’

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 8:52 pm
Europe looks like it’s about to bust open as it sinks in France is about to go full retard and vote in a socialist moron.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:53 pm
“It’s said that you can recognize a Scorpio by his stare

Julie Bishop’s sign is Cancer. She must have a Scorpio moon then.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 8:54 pm
I thought Tone did well.

Everyone is coming to terms with the fact that he’ll be our next PM and he’s trying to be reassuring.

Which usuallly means more big government but he seemed to scotch that.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 8:55 pm
I have a friend like that Lizzie,it’s odd I don’t find him to be anti women or whatever he’s supposed to be

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 8:56 pm
MSNBC:

“You’ve got all of the passion around Trayvon and what a horrible injustice that was and you can draw a direct line to the Koch brothers.”

Related: Have Our News Organizations Gone Crazy?

C.L.

23 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
Homer could be JC’s first televised ‘cure’

I would end up being the first ever mentor arrested on day time TV for beating his patient. I think I would get up from the chair and just beat him up.

I know it’s a terrible thing to say, but I don’t blame myself and I certainly wasn’t trained in medical school to beat patients up, however I would make an exception of him.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 8:58 pm
You’ve got all of the passion around Trayvon and what a horrible injustice that was and you can draw a direct line to the Koch brothers.”

Of course. I wonder if Bob wrote that line.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 9:00 pm
James, JC, there is no cure

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 9:01 pm
Ha!

Koch has been falsely and maliciously inserted into this storyline by MSNBC and other extremists.

That’s a nice touch. A direct hit between the eyes kinda touch.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:02 pm
JC

Virgos are wonderful, charming, delightful people who are witty, honest, loyal and true.

Astrology is crap.

(you’ll never guess which star sign I am)

kae

23 Apr 12 at 9:43 pm
Is it a sin to want to really hurt the Media Watch host?

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 9:48 pm
(you’ll never guess which star sign I am)

I’m thinking either Pluto or Uranus, Kae.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 9:48 pm
JC is too busy watching the Bob Brown special on Q&A.

steve from brisbane

23 Apr 12 at 9:48 pm
Oh really that fucking douchebag is on? I couldn’t stomach the prick.

JC

23 Apr 12 at 9:50 pm
i wonder if JC is a Gemini or a Scorpio.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
Jason
The point is Thai or ethnic Chinese is essentially one and the same. Also all same religion this makes a difference. The king in Thailand is the most revered person and since it can be said he is partly ethnic Chinese (even though many Thais do not know this) it is unlikely that there can be any ethnic problems and the main way to divide ethnicities is actually different. The main ethic group is Isan which used to be part of Laos. So the main language spoken at home in Thailand is not Thai. The language is probably 60-70% same something like that. Thaksin used this ethnic divide to his advantage essentially setting the poor Isan people against the rich central Thai who are primarily in Bangkok. This divide is very apparent in some cases with one of my friends saying everybody in Thailand should be able to speak Thai properly. Of course they shouldn’t many older people did not go to school and can’t speak Thai properly and may have only got TV recently.

So the comparisons with Malaysia to Thai are very small. With Malaysia worry about getting rid of UNMO before worrying about equal treatment of ethnic groups. The muslim versus christian, buddhist, hindu divide is probably harder to overcome than race as far as a PM might be concerned.

kelly liddle

23 Apr 12 at 9:51 pm
I’m guessing Aries or Gemini or maybe even Capricorn.

Come on, Jc, you’ll tell us yeah?

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:53 pm
Steve might be a Cancer.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 9:53 pm
JC

Made me laugh.

kae

23 Apr 12 at 9:53 pm
JamesK a Libra.?

candy

23 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
Steve,I’m watching it now,as usual TA is the main topic

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
JC
After thought I don’t think I’m that far out.

kae

23 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
I’ve always thought Steve was a Virgo.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:54 pm
yes, Steve could be Virgo. but does he have silky hair like Mr Rudd?

candy

23 Apr 12 at 9:55 pm
CL possibly a Gemini or Cappy. Or perhaps a Libra.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
CL a Capricorn or Aries.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 9:57 pm
Is black hole a star sign?

kae

23 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
I’ve never seen Steve or his hair, Candy. Although he keeps threatening to send me photos.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
No, Kae, I think Gillard is a Libra.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 9:59 pm
Steve! do you have silky hair – we need to know.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 10:02 pm
CL is a Catholic

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 10:02 pm
“CL is a Catholic”

yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 10:04 pm
JamesK a Libra.?

Is that the sexy one Candy?

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 10:06 pm
My hair is silky.

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 10:07 pm
“My hair is silky.”

i’m happy for you James K.

candy

23 Apr 12 at 10:17 pm
Qanda is a Muslim free zone again

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 10:24 pm
Otherwise he seems too intense and that’s what turns women off.

More on Scorpio. (It may be crap but it does seem to hit the target with this guy).

“Take all that insight and immense sensitivity, and a liberal dash of the fierce pride and determination to carve his own path through life, throw in a dose of general mistrust of people’s motives and you don’t exactly come up with what is colloquially known as a ‘laid back’ person.”

And here is good news both for doubting females who cannot see the gentle man behind the mask and those of us who wish to see Armageddon at the next election!

“He has the feminine sensitivity and feeling of the water signs; yet he is ruled by Mars, the god of war, and Pluto, the lord of death.”

Viva

23 Apr 12 at 10:27 pm
i’m happy for you James K.

I prefer thick coarse hair Candy so the silkiness is a bit of a disappointment

JamesK

23 Apr 12 at 10:33 pm
Melbourne calls, Rabz, and we answer, but we will also be moving around Australia and o/s a bit in the next year, serviced apartments etc, stuff in storage. Hope we get to settle somewhere more permanently in about five months, location as yet not definite.

Tal – TAbbott is definitely improving in the easy-going but gravitas-tinged stakes. Looking Prime Ministerial.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 10:41 pm
Lizzie,we have to work with what we got
Good luck with the move,is the HIA helpful?

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 10:45 pm
Taxpayer-funded @ABCMediaWatch claims, “no cash received for our tweets, I guarantee it.”

sdog

23 Apr 12 at 11:09 pm
Tal, today some of my friends at a farewell lunch, seeing me frazzled and frantically busy, asked how HIA was finding this (fairly sudden) change of job and move.

My terse reply: “He’s sleeping well”.

He certainly thinks he is being helpful, but in so doing in the last hour he has managed to set off the fire alarm, unpack one of my boxes in search of his favorite pen and then use it to muck up the postal redirection, making up for all this by taking me in his arms and singing me a few little Irish songs that would once have made me blush.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Lizzie:

TAbbott is definitely improving in the easy-going but gravitas-tinged stakes. Looking Prime Ministerial.

Yes, it was a good interview.

But I think you just made all our resident window-licking leftards cry.

Mk50 of Brisbane

23 Apr 12 at 11:14 pm
Do Liberals do their preselections in bathhouses, Uziboy?

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
Trying times Lizzie trying times chin up girl

Mark,quite frankly I’ve had a gutful

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 11:21 pm
Given the many convictions over the years, I’d say Labor does preselections down at the jailhouse.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 11:21 pm
Over his head Gab way over

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 11:24 pm
Oh well, Tal, not like that’s hard to do to the poor old leftie.

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 11:28 pm
I’d sure as hell miss him if he wasn’t around Tal, so these trying times are merely minor irritants in the grand scheme of things.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 11:30 pm
Geezus Paul Howes is a clown.

The man who 16 years ago went to Cuba as a Castro supporter writes:

Thinking back to Young Labor camps my wife, friends & I used to go to and how easily something like this could happen here.

I dunno Paul, perhaps you saw some things in Cuba in ’96 when you were there parading around but in Australia political violence is exclusively of the nutbag union and green left variety.

Also “Young Labor camps?” how…weird.

Who are these people?

twostix

23 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
Good men are lovely Lizzie I agree

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 11:42 pm
Who are these people?

Currently, they are called the Australian Government.

I am so fed up with this country being run like a Young Labor fun camp where every lunatic idea gets not only a welcome hearing, but now funding as well.

James Delingpole, in your next column on Oz tell the world how we’re heading down the Euro-debt road on a donkey, please. Too many people o/s think we are admirable, doing well, economically sound etc.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Apr 12 at 11:43 pm
Our betters twostix,so it seems…

Tal

23 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
Too many people o/s think we are admirable, doing well, economically sound etc.

Well we are the home of the World’s Greatest Treasurer. /smirk

Gab

23 Apr 12 at 11:46 pm
Modern book burning in the UK:

Public libraries have had to withdraw dozens of long-standing children’s favourites after parents complained they were offensive.

Anxious adults have taken action over stories deemed to be racist, blasphemous, violent or otherwise unsuitable, a survey has revealed.

Let us guess who all of a sudden is finding old English childrens stories “Blasphemous”.

twostix

23 Apr 12 at 11:50 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133798/Childrens-favourite-books-removed-library-shelves-parents-complain-offensive.html

twostix

23 Apr 12 at 11:50 pm
Paul Howes also wants to steal what’s left of northern Australia and have it filled with kibbutzim, so he has a real thing for camps.

Samson Agonistes

23 Apr 12 at 11:58 pm
Yep. Time to complain about fattism.

Anti-fat: Flabby cat and Slobby Dog was removed from a ‘health and wellbeing’ section over concerns that it gave a negative message about obesity

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

24 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
Why does anybody anwhere want to emulate anything at all about the continent?

In a country suffocated by bureaucracy, election day was rendered as low farce by bureaucratic over-reach. It is an arrestable offence in France to disclose election results until the very last polling stations have closed.

The writ of French law does not, however, run across the border into Belgium. Accordingly, Belgium’s French-language newspaper Le Soir contentedly pumped out the figures until their website crashed from the avalanche of French voters eager for the forbidden information through Sunday afternoon. Despite the total breakdown of the embargo as results relayed electronically across France as they arrived, mainstream media was silenced from reporting or noting what their viewers already knew.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2133581/France-presidential-election-2012-First-round-snapshot-wrong-nation.html

twostix

24 Apr 12 at 12:00 am
Best thing that could happen to Northern Australia is to populate it, Samson.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

24 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
Anxious adults have taken action over stories deemed to be racist, blasphemous, violent or otherwise unsuitable, a survey has revealed.

Better not let them see cartoons they are extremely violent.

kelly liddle

24 Apr 12 at 12:08 am
Geezus Paul Howes is a clown.

And a potential prime minister in 20 or 30 years when the young voters don’t know unfortunately.

kelly liddle

24 Apr 12 at 12:12 am
Populate northern australia?

And how you’re goin’ keep ‘em down on the farm after they’ve seen Sydnee?

Samson Agonistes

24 Apr 12 at 12:13 am
And how you’re goin’ keep ‘em down on the farm after they’ve seen Sydnee?

Living in Sydney for awhile is what drives people to northern QLD.

twostix

24 Apr 12 at 12:19 am
Flabby cat and Slobby Dog was removed from a ‘health and wellbeing’ section over concerns that it gave a negative message about obesity

DON’T GENOCIDE ME, BRO!

sdog

24 Apr 12 at 12:20 am
Kelly,hey all the best with your cab,do your Patron proud

Tal

24 Apr 12 at 12:20 am
Thanks Tal

kelly liddle

24 Apr 12 at 12:22 am
Spot,you are always welcome here,don’t forget that ok?

Tal

24 Apr 12 at 12:28 am
sdog

24 Apr 12 at 12:35 am
This poll had Marine Le Pen as third most popular candidate among 18-24 year olds and more popular with women in that age groups than men.

Interesting.

How weird it is that someone who stands against Free Trade, opposes privatization, is pro-abortion, wants to split banks up and leave NATO is regarded as some “right wing” extremist in France.

twostix

24 Apr 12 at 12:37 am
Anti-immigration. That’s it. She’s basically a socialist. Dare I call her a national socialist?

I actually think France is seriously fucked and more fucked up that Spain or Italy.

Both Spain and Italy know they’ve seriously fucked up. The frogs have no idea how precarious their position is.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 12:43 am
Simply amazing… but hey lets leave all that stuff in the ground for future generations because…. they won’t be fucking using it. No one will.

http://www.economist.com/node/21553017

We’re cooked long term and carbon fibre will replace most needs for shit like steel and aluminum.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 3:13 am
And don’t forget to protect the car industry jobs….

JC

24 Apr 12 at 3:13 am
Oh my.

#PrayForBo #ObamaEatsDogs

sdog

24 Apr 12 at 3:31 am
Two U.S. Marines vs. Two Burglars

This is what we call a “self-correcting error.”

sdog

24 Apr 12 at 5:14 am
Spot
At least they’re not calling the burglars “victims”.

kae

24 Apr 12 at 7:38 am
Like they do here.

kae

24 Apr 12 at 7:38 am
Clive James. What magnificent teeth you have!

Pickles

24 Apr 12 at 7:41 am
A repentent ‘climate change’ patriarch, James Lovelock, declares the hoax over.

“The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing.”

And you know what else this means?

Abbott was right.

He was pilloried for saying that the idea that the ‘science is settled’ was “bullshit.”

100 percent correct.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 8:25 am
Energy companies won’t be directly taxed under China’s carbon trading scheme, which has been delayed, undercutting claims by the Gillard government that the world’s second-largest economy is taking quick, tough action on climate change.

China had been planning to launch a national emissions trading scheme in 2015 after pilot schemes across five cities and two provinces. But the project’s top official said energy and power companies wouldn’t be directly taxed and the national scheme would be pushed back until at least 2016.

http://www.bizreview.com.au/p/national/china_goes_softly_on_carbon_price_dy1YdmQ3OZAjwBZTxUrU3L

Gab

24 Apr 12 at 8:46 am
How long before this bloke kills someone?

Matthew Newton arrested again in US.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 8:59 am
Lovelock has never been a climate scientist and his interventions on the subject in his dotage have been contrary to that of climate science.

Samson Agonistes

24 Apr 12 at 9:40 am
But [the alco-pop tax] didn’t eradicate the drinking problem - we just replaced alco-pops with stacks of cheap wine and cider, with sales increasing at a rate of up to 18 per cent

Another one of nanny state Roxon’s great ideas shows its worth. Of course, this is exactly what the Coalition said would happen …

Has there been anything this government has not been able to stuff up?

Matt

24 Apr 12 at 9:42 am
Lovelock has never been a climate scientist and his interventions on the subject in his dotage have been contrary to that of climate science.

Denounce him! Strip him of his credentials! Hang him! Unperson him! He’s old! He’s irrelevant now (as of a few hours ago)! Discard him!

The cult is past its tipping point.

twostix

24 Apr 12 at 10:02 am
Sdog:

Two U.S. Marines vs. Two Burglars

This is what we call a “self-correcting error.”

That’s quite funny in a dark, gallows humour sense.

I was at a range in the US a few years back with a friend, firing a variety of items (Desert Eagle. Want. Cannot afford, but want) and the range officer was going nuts. My friend pulled me over to watch (he’s a rangie too). These black blokes were having a range day with the usual 9mm (1911′s and Glocks) and insisted on firing them flat, on their sides ejecting up. The weapon held down on level with the base of the breastbone. This was ‘cool and gangsta’ and so the right way to do it according to these idiots. Eventually they got kicked off the range. Saw one of them, tired of wearing hot brass in the face, cover his eyes with his hands when he fired. That was the last straw for the RSO’s.

They would not have a bar of Weaver or any other correct stance, it was ‘gangsta stance’ and empty the mag as fast as possible.

I had never seen this and so I asked permission of the rangie to try it and see if I could get a round on paper at 10 yards. It attracted a bit of attention as they had seen this idiocy but never tried it. Turns out you can’t. You just can’t. Aimed fire is simply impossible. I put 20 rounds downrange and did not touch the paper. There was general consensus that the safest place to be if fired at by a gangbanga was at his aiming point, and that you’d nail him very quickly.

Apparently the lower socio-economic blacks all have that attitude and their marksmanship does not exist, it’s all spray and pray or at muzzlesplash range.

I have also done range work with USMC. They are very solid, not the greatest marksmen but very good musketry standards right across the board, excellent, tight safety procedures, excellent engagement procedures. All the usual stuff, centre of seen mass etc

If those two burglars tried to shoot it out with the marines, well, that’s just suicide. Done a fair bit of work over the decades with the marines, they are a very good bunch.

Mk50 of Brisbane

24 Apr 12 at 10:09 am
SA, you are a hoot. Please keep the faith we need a pet Lefty around here who continues to make an ass of himself.

Lovelock has never been a climate scientist and his interventions on the subject in his dotage have been contrary to that of climate science.

I love watching you mentally fall apart as all your heroes and defining doctrines are unwound.

Token

24 Apr 12 at 10:12 am
Twostix:

This poll had Marine Le Pen as third most popular candidate among 18-24 year olds and more popular with women in that age groups than men.

Interesting.

How weird it is that someone who stands against Free Trade, opposes privatization, is pro-abortion, wants to split banks up and leave NATO is regarded as some “right wing” extremist in France.

This is both worrying and predictable. The catastrophic outcomes of the welfare state, and the twin evils of moral and cultural relativism are shredding French society, culture and economy and gutted their middle class. Now we see a voting migration to the both repellent extremes of their political spectrum, national socialism (le Pen) and hard-left communism.

Both are harbingers of disaster.

This is not going to end well.

Mk50 of Brisbane

24 Apr 12 at 10:16 am
Did someone mention Comical Ali?

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9586/comicalalim.jpg

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 10:18 am
Not here, no. Wrong thread.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 10:19 am
ABC News was reporting that internal polling was showing Labor might not win a single seat in WA.

Complete eradication. More effective than the rabbit proof fence!

H B Bear

24 Apr 12 at 10:34 am
Wow Bob is getting a bit excited here

http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2012/04/23/4110/#comments

Bob Ellis April 24, 2012 at 12:51 am

The biggest lie told of me by Terrance — soon to be banned for life plus eighty-two years, he knows not the day nor the hour — is whatever those of the Left do is fine with me. I attacked and sought to destroy Rudd in June 2010. I called for Gillard’s deselection in January 2010. I wrote a book attacking Keating’s economics in 1999. I attacked Tripodi, Obeid, Roozendahl, Iemma and Keneally in 2009. I cursed Blair in print for seven years and Hillary Clinton for three months. I sided with the Social Democrats against Labour in the UK in 1983. I stood against Labor as an Independent in 1994 and 1998. I spoke up for the Monarchy against the Republicans in printband at public meetings for eighteen years.

I was/am a friend of Jim Killen, Peter Collins, Chris Puplick, Fred Chaney, Kamahl, Robert Menzies the actor, Mel Gibson, Gary McDonald and, for a few hours, Joh Bjelke-Petersen. This is a monstrous libel and I could go him for a quarter of a million plus costs and I’m sick of him. He is an ignorant, malicious and chronically mendacious drunkard and, almost certainly, a dud fuck with bity sexes. I wish him ill fortune, bad weather, air sickness and banana skins and he will never dine at Macchiavelli’s with me, I swear, in my present lifetime.

He should, as we preverts like to say, go to buggery.

jtfsoon

24 Apr 12 at 10:54 am
Arsegate!

Only Australia would come at this!

Samson Agonistes

24 Apr 12 at 11:02 am
Bob
why shouldn’t sexual harrassment law apply to homosexuals who are saving the Gillard govt’s bacon?

jtfsoon

24 Apr 12 at 11:08 am
The law should apply and Ashby’s using it.

I can’t see that he’s going to cut a favourable impression as a victim, but I could be wrong.

Samson Agonistes

24 Apr 12 at 11:15 am
Obama Celebrates Holocaust Day By Putting Jew-Bashing Crackpot on Atrocities Board.

Showing his words mean nothing, also today Samantha Power began work today as chair of President Barack Obama’s new Atrocities Prevention Board. If you don’t remember Ms Power she once called for a US force to invade Israel and force through a “peace settlement.” Powers also had some unflattering things to say about about America’s Jewish population during the 2008 campaign.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 12:32 pm
Video of Matthew Newton’s hotel lobby attack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Bvz8ZmDEE

He really cracked him.

I actually feel sorry for him.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
Gee wiz Bob Brown in a retard! Or is that ‘Brown Coal Bob’

Sean

24 Apr 12 at 12:35 pm
Australian Government Dept doesn’t believe the climate science is settled:

A member of the Wentworth Group, John Williams, has told the inquiry there is not enough information in the draft for Parliament to make an informed decision.

“To me it’s misleading scientifically, it’s deceptive and I think we are being sold a pup, quite frankly,” he said.

“It doesn’t deal with climate change and it doesn’t establish what the sustainable limit for a healthy river is over the long term.”

Meanwhile, the [Murray-Darling Basin] Authority has told the Senate inquiry that climate change science is too uncertain to be used to underpin the initial plan for the river system.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/murray-darling-plan-deceptive-and-misleading/21513

Climate Change Science is “uncertain”?

Prepare to be denounced.

twostix

24 Apr 12 at 12:42 pm
Nigel Farage on the inevitable break up of the Euro

M

24 Apr 12 at 1:04 pm
Not only the worst president ever but a very ugly human being…

Obama Selects Woman Who Wanted to Invade Israel As Chair of Genocide Panel.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 1:26 pm
FMD.

I have now officially heard everything.

Slipper elevation good for working families: PM.

I mean…

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 1:38 pm
He deserves to lose on this alone for letting her do this to herself. WTF?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133629/French-elections-2012-France-president-Nicolas-Sarkozys-wife-Carla-Bruni-barely-recognisable.html?ICO=most_read_module

JC

24 Apr 12 at 2:17 pm
Slipper elevation good for working families: PM.

Seriously, can we just get her out of ther. It’s offensive to have as PM.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 2:18 pm
It will be interesting to see if Ashby turns up on televsion.

Samson Agonistes

24 Apr 12 at 2:25 pm
CL:

I have now officially heard everything.

Slipper elevation good for working families: PM.

Well of course. If mum’s on the game Shagger Thompson’ll be looking after her income. If Dad’s on the game, Peter ‘Length’ Slipper’ll look after his income.

That may not be the conventional definition of working family, though, CL.

Mk50 of Brisbane

24 Apr 12 at 2:30 pm
One less Liberal is presumably good for working families, if you view it from her perspective.

Its her opinion and no less valuable than yours.

Samson Agonistes

24 Apr 12 at 2:34 pm
Anyone know what’s happened to the good Prof. Bunyip, or have I missed something?

Nic

24 Apr 12 at 2:36 pm
The number of flattering angles available to sympathetic photographers of Bruni is sinking like a lead balloon. There’s been some truly terrifying photos of her since she married Sarks. She’s had far too much work done.

Oh come on

24 Apr 12 at 2:41 pm
Nic, yesterday Gab said Tim Blair believes the Good Professor Bunyip is not ill, just not posting right now. I do hope no-one is threatening him with a writ or something … More cheerfully, perhaps he just needs some time to get on with another great piece of investigative satire for us.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

24 Apr 12 at 2:45 pm
Thanks Lizzie

Nic

24 Apr 12 at 2:59 pm
Imagine the kind of green energy grant this guy would get if he were in Australia.

Oh come on

24 Apr 12 at 3:40 pm
Wow, a lot of expected frothing at the SMH at Bolta slated to regularly appear on Sydney radio. Some good retorts in reply from others though:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/andrew-bolt-to-hit-sydney-airwaves-20120424-1xika.html#comments

Nic

24 Apr 12 at 3:44 pm
Speaking of Bolta, this report in the SMH online edition is certainly ironic:

A crowd of people has begun gathering in front of Parliament House in Sydney to protest perceived police brutality following the shooting of two indigenous teens in a stolen car over the weekend.

In the pouring rain, about 150 people have so far squashed onto the pavement in Macquarie Street and spilled on to the road, including young Aboriginal people.

Just curious as to why the SMH, normally loathe to mention any specific racial group would insert that as a ‘special’ point within the article.

Ray Jackson, who organised the rally, has begun addressing the crowd, describing “idiot police” who shot into the stolen car carrying six youngsters in Kings Cross on Saturday morning.

A 17-year-old, who had been shot, was dragged from the front passenger seat. Photo: Channel 7
Two teens, aged 14 and 17, were hit after the car was driven onto the footpath.

They remain in hospital.

Mr Jackson, from the Indigenous Social Justice Association, said there were questions around whether police should carry weapons at all.

There were also calls from rally attendees for the officer depicted in mobile phone footage hitting one of the suspects in the head to be charged.

The Greens are calling for independent investigations into police conduct in these kinds of circumstances.

Boxer Anthony Mundine was among the crowd and said he came to lend his support to the cause.

“There’s no room for any debate,” he told the Herald.
“They were pretty much unarmed, cornered, trapped … and they [the police] opened fire at point blank range – to kill.”

Mr Mundine said the issues were not about race, but the families of the teens injured wanted answers.

Police officers were keeping a low profile at the rally and maintaining distance from the crowd.

While Mundine’s comment has a different context, its certainly an ironic one given other circumstances that currently exist with regards to ‘debate’.

Nic

24 Apr 12 at 3:51 pm
It’s handy being a woman sometimes…

Woman kills husband with a spear-gun (shot to the back), uses pre-emptive spousal abuse defence (whose details the judge dismisses as lies), gets four years non-parole.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-24/abused-wife-jailed-for-stabbing-husband-to-death/3969502

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 4:03 pm
Bolt corrects the numerous errors made by the SMH wrt his Sydney radio slots.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/still_its_publicity/

Gab

24 Apr 12 at 4:13 pm
Lizzie. Amazing how one person can make such an impression that we worry that he’s ok and he is just an anonymous (but very smart) blogger.

Daisy

24 Apr 12 at 8:35 pm
Ive just been reading Bob Ellis and his table talk. Nothing to link to as the man is certifiable.

Daisy

24 Apr 12 at 8:40 pm
Ellis Table Talk

http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2012/04/23/after-sarkozy-1-arguments-for-socialism/

The reason is that ‘socialism’, in the present era, makes a lot of sense. The storms, floods, tsunamis and plane crashes attendant upon global warming have made the insurance business impossible. The adventures of rogue pension funds have wrecked the world economy. Banks can no longer be trusted. Tourism everywhere is dwindling and people, fearing storms, flying less. And an ageing population has made their care and twilight comfort impossible under any low-tax regime.

To fix this, Francois Holland is proposing a 75 percent income tax on the rich, and a return to those lazy-workplace and early-retirement policies that have made France such a genial, cultured, bibulous place in the past fifty years. No-one is keen on sado-monetarism any more, especially since people like Gina Rhineheart are paying themselves two thousand dollars an hour around the clock for doing very little.

30% youth unemployment and riots in Lyons and Marseilles? Genial!

.

24 Apr 12 at 9:50 pm
Dot you linked !

Daisy

24 Apr 12 at 9:58 pm
The storms, floods, tsunamis and plane crashes attendant upon global warming have made the insurance business impossible. The adventures of rogue pension funds have wrecked the world economy. Banks can no longer be trusted. Tourism everywhere is dwindling and people, fearing storms, flying less.

To fix this, Francois Holland is proposing a 75 percent income tax on the rich

I’m sorry but this is hilariously stupid.

.

24 Apr 12 at 10:00 pm
I know, I know! This man gets paid to write this stuff. And, and people actually respond to this halfwittery! And they do it in all seriousness. I’m sorry too!

Daisy

24 Apr 12 at 10:08 pm
Can China’s official economic numbers be trusted?

stage managed capitalism

Irving J

24 Apr 12 at 10:23 pm
The storms, floods, tsunamis and plane crashes attendant upon global warming have made the insurance business impossible.

WTF?

Bob, what are you smoking. Australian insurance firms have had a hard time but global firms are fine.

Stop talking crapola.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 10:31 pm
‘Global warming’ causes plane crashes now?

LOL.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 10:40 pm
Black mob bashes white man into a coma “for Trayvon.”

Good work, Obama.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 10:47 pm
Magnificent articles at Quadrant from Daryl McCann on being a naive Marxist in China in 1979

Max Scream could learn something from reading these. He would learn so much more if he took the time truly understand them.

Token

24 Apr 12 at 10:47 pm
The hate media have a lot to answer for.

Gab

24 Apr 12 at 10:51 pm
Great articles at Quadrant from Daryl McCann on the lessons learned by a naive marxist in China in 1979.

http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/qed/2012/04/china-1979-a-photographic-essay

Token

24 Apr 12 at 10:57 pm
There is a good amount of discussion on Twitter this morning about killing George Zimmerman now that he’s out on bail. But that hasn’t been the only action on Twitter calling for violent action. Since Friday, there has been an explosion of tweets surrounding the possibility of rioting if Zimmerman is acquitted – or even because he was released on bail:

Hopefully this will end up being the fizzle like the Kony story. But not if the media keep feeding the beast.

Gab

24 Apr 12 at 10:58 pm
This is absolutely fucking hilarious. We all know the NYTimes is running out of money and if it doesn’t do something soon, it will eventually die.

one of the things the management is doing is cutting back, or at least want to cut back on the generous defined pension plan and basically go to a superannuation system which Americans call 401K.

It basically means they will have less money and so they need to save more for their retirement Failing that the firm is basically on it knees and simply can’t afford the generosity anymore.

Listen to the guild members squeal. This is like life hitting them over the fucking head like a sledge hammer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTw0B_lmIHM&feature=player_embedded#!

Walter Russell Meade calls it:

At The NYT: Clueless Blue Deer Meet Onrushing Truck

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/04/22/at-the-nyt-clueless-blue-deer-meet-onrushing-truck/

JC

24 Apr 12 at 11:11 pm
Schadenfreude alert: readers, and especially those who don’t much like the New York Times, should make sure they are not eating soup or holding hot liquids before viewing the video below. Uncontrollable gales of laughter stemming from excessive levels of schadenfreude may cause spilling and staining.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 11:13 pm
Not one of the pampered fuckers is even considering working past 65!

JC

24 Apr 12 at 11:17 pm
This ~~man~~ syphilitic ol’ soak gets paid by the taxpayer to write this stuff.

Fixed.

Rabz

24 Apr 12 at 11:18 pm
‘Global warming’ causes plane crashes now?

Rabz

24 Apr 12 at 11:27 pm
… an array of Times staffers, including some famous bylines, … worry aloud that the new plan could make them eat cat food and sleep in boxes on the street in old age.

Hearing news that like that will definitely contribute to my own longevity.

Laughter is indeed the best medicine…

Rabz

24 Apr 12 at 11:32 pm
Rabz

They are fucking oblivious to what’s going on around them. The company is basically going bust, or will be eventually a shadow of its former self and these fuckers are in a bubble. A complete bubble.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 11:35 pm
‘Global warming’ causes plane crashes now?

Is there anything it can’t do…except go away?

Token

24 Apr 12 at 11:36 pm
Though Dellingpole is in our timezone, he did get time to make a post about the happy part-conversion of Lovelock.

‘Global warming? What global warming?’ says High Priest of Gaia Religion

Not confronting at all!

Token

24 Apr 12 at 11:39 pm
Oh jeez. WTF?

Man Dies After Peeing On ‘L’ Tracks In Evanston

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/23/man-dies-after-peeing-on-l-tracks-in-evanston/

lord, what a way to go.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 11:42 pm
The hooly Bishop takynge tea

Whilste watching himselfe on BBC.

People, this deserves a more visible ‘resurrection’ – ‘Iowahawke’ at his very best…

Rabz

24 Apr 12 at 11:45 pm
The company is basically going bust, or will be eventually a shadow of its former self and these fuckers are in a bubble. A complete bubble.

Celebrate the simultaneous Schadenfreude, Squire!

Rabz

24 Apr 12 at 11:51 pm
an array of Times staffers, including some famous bylines, … worry aloud that the new plan could make them eat cat food

They obviously don’t know the price of cat food. We see this ridiculous sort of shit every so often when a pensioner or some such degrades themselves by eating a can of PAL on camera. FFS, you can buy some pasta, use the garlic, olive oil, and some chilli, you have lying around in your kitchen and make your self an Aglio Et Olio for almost nothing at all.

dover_beach

24 Apr 12 at 11:51 pm
Poll shock: Catholics dump Obama.

If Obama continues to lose Catholics by the margin the Pew poll suggests, that means he could lose the key swing states of Florida, Ohio, Colorado and Iowa.

Good job, dickhead.

C.L.

24 Apr 12 at 11:56 pm
you can buy some pasta, use the garlic, olive oil, and some chilli, you have lying around in your kitchen and make your self an Aglio Et Olio for almost nothing at all.

It’s perhaps one of the best ever dishes ever conceived. The best way to do it is boil it and then stick it in a frying pan with a touch of oil and the smidgeon of garlic. My mouth is watering just thinking about it.

JC

24 Apr 12 at 11:58 pm
Aglio Et Olio

But it must have freshly grated Grana Padano on top.

Gab

25 Apr 12 at 12:01 am
But it must have freshly grated Grana Padano on top.

Of course.

JC

25 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
Related: Obama achives what people thought impossible…

Mitt Romney holds huge lead among white Catholics and evangelicals.

C.L.

25 Apr 12 at 12:02 am
you gotta love the discourse at the Cat. Some are talking about delightful food and then we get this:

Poll shock: Catholics dump Obama.

Good job, dickhead.

It’s what makes the CAT such a lively place.

JC

25 Apr 12 at 12:03 am
FFS, you can buy some pasta, use the garlic, olive oil, and some chilli, you have lying around in your kitchen and make your self an Aglio Et Olio for almost nothing at all.

Yep. You can actually eat quite well for very little expense, using certain basic, fresh ingredients.

But hey, best not let that li’l secret out lest our beloved sanctimonious leftist twats demand a ~~ten~~ twentyfold increase in the cost of those foodstuffs.

If pensioners can’t afford to heat or cool their homes, why should they be able to afford to eat cheap healthy food, FFS?

Nothing must be allowed to impede the Great Reprimitivization™, Comrades!

Rabz

25 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
Who gets to tell the Reagan democrats the good news?

The most useless bunch of dumb f*ckers on the planet, who will riot and burn buildings at the drop of an entitlement, still love the Sun King:

Why French socialists love Barack Obama

It is a bad sign when French politicians express admiration for an American president’s policies. Such praise does not indicate a shift in Gallic thinking, but rather recognition that the White House has adopted the kind of extreme, anti-free market approach that the French Left finds palatable.

Token

25 Apr 12 at 12:09 am
I’ve done it many a time that way, JC and Gab. Great on the fly; 10-15 mins and its on the table.

dover_beach

25 Apr 12 at 12:10 am
Add two eggs and you’ve got spaghetti fritters.

Know what else is cheap? Pancakes.

Slow-cooked stews using low-grade cuts like neck, bulked out with potato or a side of rice are cheaper than cat food.

You can follow that up with a self-saucing chocolate pudding consisting of little more than a couple cups of flour, some sugar and cocoa, for cents per serve.

Howabout a tin of tomatoes, some cheap mince or any other meat-like substance including sausages, add garlic and some herbs, serve over rice or pasta.

Chicken stock plus some noodles plus some spices equals a pretty decent soup.

Speaking of which, chicken is dead cheap and 40 years ago was a once-a-week luxury for the ordinary working class. Baking a whole chook with a stuffing of lemons and onions is probably cheaper than cat food and certainly delicious; but if you can’t afford lemons, rub on some garlic powder and salt.

Anyone who eats cat food is an idiot.

wreckage

25 Apr 12 at 12:27 am
Dick Morris on the Kenyan’s lavish lifestyle all paid for by the taxpayer of course.

http://www.dickmorris.com/obamas-lavish-lifestyle-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

JC

25 Apr 12 at 12:29 am
There is a new open forum.

Sinclair Davidson

25 Apr 12 at 12:35 am

Catallaxy Files

Open Forum: April 21, 2012

925 Responses to 'Open Forum: April 21, 2012'

Leave a Reply

Liberty Quotes

Ongoing Debates

Catallaxy Surveys

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

Archives

Pages

Blogroll

Meta

Catallaxy Files

Open Forum: April 21, 2012

Share this:

925 Responses to 'Open Forum: April 21, 2012'

Leave a Reply

Liberty Quotes

Ongoing Debates

Catallaxy Surveys

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

Archives

Pages

Blogroll

Meta