Opposition workplace relations spokesman Eric Abetz sought to recall the workplace watchdog before the Employment and Workplace Relations Committee to give further evidence on the email, which was released late yesterday.
The email was sent to Terry Nassios after the HSU probe was handed over from the former Australian Industrial Relations Commission to FWA in 2009.
And faster than a speeding bullet, even faster than you can say ‘liar’:
PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has told parliament she was not aware of an email showing Fair Work Australia’s forerunner believed police should have been involved in the Health Services Union investigation three years ago.
I reckon you are way too soft, Sync. This is how Bob Ellis maintains discipline on his blog
“Give eight examples of when I was wrong in the past. Or be banned for life.”
Yeah, but Newspoll says Gillard is 3 point ahead as preferred PM
Good, that means Labor has nothing to worry about and is in a election-winning position.
JC is right: the more the ALP delude themselves now, the better it’s going to be in the end.
JC is right: the more the ALP delude themselves now, the better it’s going to be in the end.
There is a slight bit of sadness that the Aussie Institution that is the ALP is allowing itself to be literally destroyed in three short years in order to allow a soaked to the bone Fabian Society Emily Lister to do whatever the fuck it is that she thinks she’s doing.
I think her plan (as she outlined for the Socialist Forum once) was to use the ALP as a vehicle to force the country to the hard left. She’s using it as a vehicle all right, but jeezuz she sure as hell can’t drive it – except off a cliff.
Isn’t there anybody left in Labor with a shred of a long term survival instinct?
JC, Reading this statement on Morgans site there was no phone poll.
Federal Poll : Finding No. 4782 : The face-to-face Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention was conducted over last weekend, May 26/27, 2012 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 874 Australian electors aged 18+, of all electors surveyed, a low 2.5% did not name a party. Face-to-face polling is more accurate than telephone polling due to the higher response rate achieved compared to other forms of polling including telephone polling and Internet polling. : May 29, 2012
There’s one problem with my prognosis. If she or they take the view that they’re gone for all money for the next 20 years then it really could be a dangerous time for Australia, as they will do their best to shove all the crap they would be too afraid to in normal circumstances.
I wouldn’t put it past them at all.
Then it gets seriously uglified.
I’m thinking their psychology has gone and could end going like this.
JC, Reading this statement on Morgans site there was no phone poll.
I’m not up to date, the way it used to be done was as part of the regular omnibus survey, most of which was commercial stuff like “what brand of dogfood to you have in your cupboard?”
The sampling was pretty good – addresses would be chosen in advance and if no-one was home, the poller had instructions to try the house 2 doors up on the left, or whatever.
Roy Morgan does door-to-door surveys. It’s their point of differentiation from Newspoll, Galaxy etc, which use telephones. They argue it gives more representative sampling.
Morgan’s right. The Newspoll result is bullshit. Just like the lucky (but temporary) Newspoll improvement for Gillard the day before the Rudd-Gillard spill. That turned out to be bullshit too.
Reading this statement on Morgans site there was no phone poll
Different methodology. There are advantages either way you do it.
I’m not up to date, the way it used to be done was as part of the regular omnibus survey, most of which was commercial stuff like “what brand of dogfood to you have in your cupboard?”
They all do that, all the major polling companies.
Isn’t there anybody left in Labor with a shred of a long term survival instinct?
They elected a sound-bite expert as leader, then realized he had none of the practical skills required to lead an organisation.
They got rid of him, then elected someone who appeared to have spunk, but it turned she was a similar illusion: someone who hadn’t even had the dream of leadership, but had been pushed forward by an indiscriminate positive discrimination program.
There is no-one remotely close to the ALP leadership a) who dreamed of it and b) had done the leadership development required over years to make it a success.
“a dangerous time”? “normal circumstances” ?? do you mean that the current intention of the alp/green coalition is not to destroy he australian society and economy and creage something in their own dystional image?
No I don’t, Candy. You know why? I’ll tell you. He’s deplorable. The way in which he has conducted himself as the Minister for Defence has been utterly disgusting and contemptuous of service personnel and the Australian public.
He is a vainglorious show pony who lacks strength of character and intelligence. Self-serving and mediocre at best. To me, he is ugly.
So, no, I don’t find him ‘a bit of alright’ at all.
Winston, I’m trying to have a bit more couth and culture about me. Doesn’t make me the best role model at times.
I’m getting better though.
When you tell your boss your thinking of giving up swearing for Lent and he offers to get you a swear drum as opposed to a swear jar then you need to take action lol.
Roy Morgan does door-to-door surveys. It’s their point of differentiation from Newspoll, Galaxy etc, which use telephones. They argue it gives more representative sampling.
I was Morgan polled once several years ago. IIRC, they asked their questions and you popped your answer paper into a little Morgan box. It was like a secret ballot.
I was Morgan polled once several years ago. IIRC, they asked their questions and you popped your answer paper into a little Morgan box. It was like a secret ballot.
ahahhahaha so it’s possibly more accurate than any other.
Stepford? Where is the loathsome oaf.
Hey Stepford I won. I told you it would get to 60% and we’re over it now as Morgan is pretty decent if its a secret ballot like thingi.
Here’s the other stuff you need to consider, which I’ve always reminded you of.
1. These clowns have an major fuck-up or scandal happening every week now.
2. The bribe went through and nobody’s grateful.
3. Electricity costs are going higher.
4. Unemployement and marginal firms will close or move offshore and the news of this is going to be in the papers each day.
5. China is slowing down that will impact us and they will get blamed for it.
6. The promise of the surplus evaporates.
7. The lying slapper is threatened to be rolled or finally gets rolled.
I’m taking the polls to new heights. I think we’re heading to 70/30 2PP and I’m not kidding.
The liars party will end up fighting for scraps with the Greenlsime in the teens. Watch.
I was also Roy Morganed years ago by doorknock, however, since then I have been asked and have given my email addy and now I get an invitation to do a poll, and the first few questions are demograohic eg postcode, sex, income level, age etc and sometimes they already have enough of a certain type so they say thank you but we don’t need you today. I get polled about every three months and it can be all kinds of things from shampoo to voting age to medication. Can be very interesting.
I worked for Roy Morgan research throughout the seventies. Their research methodology is strong, they use a larger sample, interview face-to-face and they are independent as opposed to owned by a media outlet.
And even though you tell everyone that they are not compelled in any way to answer the political questions I never had a single one refuse. And it is a secret ballot, they are given a voting slip and put it into the ballot box, they are checked off a master list once all surveys are completed, but there are no personal details that identify the respondents.
I think a reality check is required here to interpret the poll results. If you believe that Morgan accurately reflects the voting intention of the whole population you would have to accept that in the space of one week:
500,000 people who were going to vote labor last weekend decided not to this weekend.
400,000 people who last week were not going to vote LNP, deciced to vote LNP this weekend.
Some might believe that, but then you would also have to believe 300,000 people who were not going to vote greens, decided this weekend that the greens would be the best bet. I know that will stretch credulity on this blog.
I didn’t see on the Morgan website what the sample size and thus statistical sampling error was. I think you will find that next weekend it swings back the other way. That’s not because anyone changed their mind(again), it’s just how statistical sampling works.
We’ve seen this time and time again, they’ll have an historic once in 100 years opportunity and they’ll run another WA mortgage brokers scandal!
At least the winged menace and any libertarian with a pulse will be able to resist spending any money. You might be a prize dill but it won’t matter, you’re abolishing stuff not writing an FWA.
First day of sitting, Monday morning 9:00am sell the ABC, 10:00am abolish the marriage act, 10:30am morning tea, 11:00am abolish anything mentioning the word climate,…
Morgan is finding a record high 2PP for the Coalition vs ALP federally, but 61.5: 38.5 would give ALP a 22% better result than the Qld ALP in the 2012 massacre (12.3% swing versus 15%). For that reason, I believe the ALP has not yet reached the bottom, particularly in view of the fact that the ALP leadership vacuum is producing new crises of incompetence at better than one per calendar month. One of the unknowns is that, in all the metrics, the pollsters are having to extrapolate a huge number of undecideds — 20% or more. A 12.3% swing against would give the ALP 28 out of 150 seats in the Reps; a 15% Queensland-size swing gives them 22 seats. I don’t believe Bligh was anywhere near as badly on the nose as Gillard; for a start, she was a competent leader, even if she was a liar. Even with a leadership change, I think federal Labor are dreaming if they think they can limit the landslide to 15%.
Hey Stepford I won. I told you it would get to 60% and we’re over it now as Morgan is pretty decent if its a secret ballot like thingi.
Morgan face-to face is notoriously volatile & unreliable & is usually excluded from aggregate poll trends for this reason. The face to face gave Beazley a 14% lead over Howard a month & a half out from the 2001 election, Latham a 10% lead the same distance from the 2004 election & Rudd 15% in 2007. In 2010 Morgan’s phone poll was reporting 50/50 a few weeks out from the election while the face-to-face was reporting that Gillard had a 14.5% lead. The phone polls tend to be a lot more stable & reliable (closer to the election).
@tom The polling does take in Vic, Sa and Tas. The cold weather appears to affect their political judgement. Or maybe it’s all the unionised labor. Whatever it is, they’re all clearly nuts down there.
I think we can expect WA and QLD to go ‘Labor’ free, and Victoria to probably lose 1 or 2 seats, and no change in SA or Tas. Not sure about NSW – couple of marginal Western Sydney seats to go + Eden Monaro.
Anyone pining for a Gillard win has to work out where she is going to pick up 3 seats to replace the independents + Thomson. Then they have to start explaining how to offset the QLD + WA losses.
I remember watching Stephen Smith in the 2010 election – trying madly to get the numbers to add up on TV. Well, the numbers are much worse than then – Gillard commanded a 37% primary vote at the time.
They’re all volatile, bado to some degree. And you have no real way of determining which one is more accurate at any point in time. That’s why I said you lop off Gallop and newspoll.
The phone polls tend to be a lot more stable & reliable (closer to the election).
Stability doesn’t necessarily mean accuracy, zonk head.
So, motherfucker, you believe there is nothing to worry about for the communists? The peasants will sing The Internationale in the streets whenever they’re summoned?
The major phone polls tend to track within the same range, show similar trends & usually come close to final election results (some are better than others on some or parameters like primaries but fall down on preference allocation, others get close to the 2pp). The face to face Morgan polls are usually close to nothing resembling the election result or anything else.
Macquarie Radio tonight reports the FXJ subediting jobs are being offshored to get rid of high Australian wages. All media are cost-cutting in this way. They don’t have any choice because they’re increasingly exposed to the Google Adsense online monopoly, which is offering advertisers 90% off equivalent offline print space rates.
Evidence here & here. The latter shows the discrepancies between face to face & phone as Morgan compares a 50/50 phone poll with 57.5/42.5 in a subsequent face to face & claims it as evidence of a strong boost to Gillard (3 weeks from the election). 2001 & 2004 polls show the same sort of huge margins in face to face polls which just weren’t believable or seen in any other polling.
Candy – yes, I think expel the Syrian diplomats. A gesture, no more, but international civilised standards need asserting somehow. You don’t shoot up kids, you just don’t.
That NYT puff piece trumpeting Obama the macho terrorist killer was hilarious. I remember when the CIA declared Al Qaeda all but wiped out worldwide during the later Bush years. Now various dedicated sockpuppets “administration officials” are suggesting the Kenyan did it. LOL.
“Candy – yes, I think expel the Syrian diplomats. A gesture, no more, but international civilised standards need asserting somehow. You don’t shoot up kids, you just don’t.”
LABOR MPs need to show “courage and conviction” [ha ha] in the lead-up to the 2013 election, according to Julia Gillard, who says they can win the campaign.
In a caucus meeting this morning [which the booted Craig Thomson attended] the Prime Minister rallied her troops, while revealing the current period was “one of the hardest periods politically for the government”.
“Over the next 500 days we need to show courage and conviction,” Ms Gillard told MPs during this morning’s caucus meeting in parliament.
The only snippet of QT I caught today was Gillard accusing Da Abbott Monster of sending meanies out on the weekend to attack Thompson after saying (?) he would go easy on him. She more or less accused him of trying to push the sociopathic douchebag to suicide.
Can there be a clearer signal that the quality of politics (on both sides) in this country is rat shit?
Although it’s probably not true, I’d really like to think some of them are standing up for voluntary voting. There’s an easy way to ensure they’re not bothered while exercising their democratic freedom. Just make it clear that if they’re forced back on the electoral roll they’ll vote against the current government every time until the government of the day makes a move toward voluntary participation.
That NYT puff piece trumpeting Obama the macho terrorist killer was hilarious. I remember when the CIA declared Al Qaeda all but wiped out worldwide during the later Bush years. Now various dedicated sockpuppets “administration officials” are suggesting the Kenyan did it. LOL.
As much as you love the glorious revolution of 2010, motherfucker, Gary Morgan and his family, who have been in the polling business for 50 years, aren’t young punks with ponytails. When he says today’s Newspoll is “frankly unbelievable”, it’s frankly unbelievable and you go looking for weaknesses in Newspoll’s methodology, not his. Bottom line: it’s a volatile electorate and elections are moments of truth where people are true to themselves, not reacting to the novelty of answering questions months or years before. But you trust a good pollster.
A phalanx of retired generals and admirals stood behind Mr. Obama on the second day of his presidency, providing martial cover as he signed several executive orders to make good on campaign pledges. Brutal interrogation techniques were banned, he declared. And the prison at Guantánamo Bay would be closed.
What the new president did not say was that the orders contained a few subtle loopholes. They reflected a still unfamiliar Barack Obama, a realist who, unlike some of his fervent supporters, was never carried away by his own rhetoric.
He wasn’t carried away by his own rhetoric?
FMD. Most obscure way of saying “he lied” eveh.
If you read beyond page 1, in fact, you see that the entire piece is an attempt to explain away the fact that Obama came to believe – or was tutored to believe, more likely – that Bush was right.
And is the NYT the only newspaper that refers to the Vice-President as “Joseph R. Biden.” As if that will make him sound like substantive figure.
I’m not dreaming, step. I actually think it’s doable. I predicted the little turd’s demise when people thought it was a joke. i also predicted a lib win last election.
I’m pretty decent with trends and the next election will be a wipeout for the liars straddling with the greenslime….
Did you read the piece I linked to last evening that is the circus called the NYTimes.
Pinch has taken the net worth of the firm down from 7 billion to less than 1 billion and Bloomberg may end up taking it over as the family is screaming.
Is it pinch or punch as i can’t be bothered looking it up.
I may have skipped the last few pages (only) of the NYT’s Obama-becoming-Bush story but I’m pretty sure it didn’t discuss Libya – the entire country given to Al Qaeda by the Kenyan. Their first whole country since the salad days of the Taliban.
Yea Winston. They literally watched the price collapse and did nothing. Bloomberg will end up with it and stick the name tag on his site like he did with Newsweek which he paid one dollar for.
They really could have been a freaking powerhouse too. They absolutely fucked it up… well Pinch did.
Rafe, there was a telling exchange on Bolt-Price tonight while they were interviewing Julie Bishop.
Paraphrasing, Bolt wondered if Q&A’s humiliation of Gina would be born in mind by an incoming coalition government.
Bishop: “Thanks for the thought, Andrew.”
That NYT puff piece trumpeting Obama the macho terrorist killer
“If they are starting to use children…” Obama blathers.
Fucking idiot. They were using twelve year old Muslim kids and Down’s syndrome people and raped women on Bush’s watch; and where was your moral outrage then, you worthless POS? Directed against the people who were trying to kill the savages doing it.
Tom I recall that as a comment in response to Price (or Bolt) saying that funding to the ABC would be looked at by the Coalition government. I could be wrong.
P.S.Don’t also forget that she said she didn’t see internal polling prior to knifing Rudd.
P.P.S. Don’t also also forget she said she didn’t have conversations with anyone about knifing Rudd.
P.P.P.S. Don’t also also also forget she said she didn’t see the speech that was written two weeks before the knifing that she delivered oh so confidently.
Much of the left at the time were saying there was no such thing as “Al Qaeda” (yes SBS, I remember the relentless stream of lunatic left anti-war “documentaries” you ran).
Unless it means offending governments, it seems.
The only current Australian political petition is “Say no to Tasmanian MP’s payrise”.
All the rest are petitions about Funeral plan ads to Upgrading the Bruce Highway.
Bush never took the fight to al Qaeda. He screwed the pooch at Tora Bora then screwed it again when he invaded Iraq.
He didn’t screw the pooch, the US WAS the pooch, Pakistan were the animal molesters.
However I largely agree. I saw nothing wrong with a global and coordinated “world war” against terrorism, which he discussed with Chirac on a televised hotline call after 9/11 but never eventuated.
Oh, Gab that’s appalling. They truly are pustulent, verminous maggots* on that show.
They bleat on about how she’s tearing her family apart in the courts, what she gives (or doesn’t) to charity, and she wants to control every cent that she makes.
In every case, it’s none of their business. Perhaps we should ask Hewson for his accounting books so that we know what he’s spending his money on.
Perhaps we demand that Marr just hand over money for us to take care of and dole out on his behalf.
As for the ‘children’? Their adults so they can grow the heck up and start acting like it. Gina has fought hard for that business, and built it up. Once your children grow up and become self-sufficient, they have to live their own lives.
This idea that parents owe their kids for ever and ever needs to be taken out and shot.
*working on reducing profanity, so please excuse any redundancies.
Greg Best is a councillor at Wyong Shire. Apparently he and another councillor tried for a petition as we saw. Three ALP councillors walked out, and the motion failed on a technicality.
I don’t know why you are so against seasteading, Les.
You just love oppressive little shit c**t regimes being supported by Mugabe lover, Malcolm Fraser.
The Republic of Minerva was illegally invaded by Tonga, and backed by the communist sook leader of the Liberals.
If fuckwit Malcolm didn’t back this, it would have been successful.
The ALP trounced him because he was such a fuckwit. Howard had no respect for him. If Howard, Hawke and Keating ALL dislike you – you’re probably bit of a berk.
Fast and Furious is a non-story. And he is an idiot.
Really? An arm of the government selling arms to mexican drug cartels and hoping they double back so it could be blamed on US gun shows is a non-story?
Not only did the man who once condemned US troops in Afghanistan as murderers give Libya to Al Qaeda. He also armed Mexican narco-terrorists, causing the deaths of hundreds of civilians and at least one US law enforcement officer.
You know, I think the idea that the Left could tell a lie and run with it for a month and then move on, telling all and sundry “That was so last month”, is valid.
The Democrats are falling apart and more and more people are laughing at them for their childish lying. They are being seen for what they are: Immature, dysfunctional humans.
The Left is in a death spiral. The intarwebs have inoculated us by showing us how they practice their deceit.
So the ideao of giving high powered assault weapons to killer thugs without tagging the merchandise with a pgps locator and not following the killers was Bush policy?
You are a fvckwit Jarrah.
There is no other reasonable descriptor for dangerous useful idiot twits like you
Do I want to go there?
Shit yeah, Jarrah, you lying turd!
“Project Gunrunner involved the surveillance of straw purchasers buying weapons, but those purchasers were immediately apprehended before crossing back into Mexico or transferring arms to dangerous criminals. Shortly after Obama took office, Operation Fast and Furious allowed straw purchasers working for Mexican drug cartels to purchase mass amount of weapons in the United States and then take them back to Mexico…
It’s hilarious seeing the fury and rage of the ODS sufferers as it dawns on them that Barry is actually much better at national security and defence than Bush was.
It must really hurt you guys. Your pain and impotent rage is palpable.
Now, I should have paid more attention to the headline. Kill List, you say?
Guess who began the Al Qaeda Kill List? And guess which newspaper wrote about it in 2002?
You guessed right! 1. George W. Bush and 2. The New York Times.
A spokesman for the White House declined to discuss the list or issues involving the use of lethal force against terrorists. A spokesman for the C.I.A. also declined to comment on the list…
The more aggressive approach to counterterrorism is showing results.
George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, said in a speech last week that more than one-third of the top leadership of Al Qaeda identified before the war in Afghanistan had been killed or captured.
But the NYT couldn’t resist sounding the kind of cautionary note they now avoid:
But the decision by the Bush administration to authorize, under certain circumstances, the killing of terrorist leaders threatens to thrust it into a murky area of national security and international law that is almost never debated in public because the covert operations are known only to a small circle of executive branch and Congressional officials.
It’s hilarious seeing the fury and rage of the ODS sufferers as it dawns on them that Barry is actually much better at national security and defence than Bush was.
It must really hurt you guys. Your pain and impotent rage is palpable.
Not me. I think he’s been far too easy going and the apology obsession made me shudder in embarrassment for him and his office. However on the whole, he would get a C- for foreign policy.
Try and win an election as the foreign policy president in the US in this climate.
No one gives a flying shit about foreign policy at. As it used to be said.. it’s the economy stupid.
Bush never even had a chance to make that decision as the military brass walked away. This is when Rumsfeld flew into a rage with the military for being legalistic and dropping the ball on a golden opportunity.
Furthermore noises coming out of the administration have been strongly suggesting that adult, Leon Panetta made the decision himself over the head of the Kenyan as the Kenyan did a harry freeze.
John Mc, sounds like a plan.
Mk50 has been trying to organise a get-together in Briz for a while, but noone emailed me thru my blog… well, one person did, he’s a member of the usual suspects, we’ve met before at similar gatherings.
And I don’t think it’s fair that you should be within staggering distance when no matter where the meet I have to drive!
There’s good meals at Dan Murphy’s on James Street.
The group formerly condemned by Democrats as “Dick Cheney’s Illegal Assassination Squad.” You know, SEAL Team 6 – the outfit that regards Obama as a dishonorable douchebag.
If the Coalition get a double majority, they ought to repeal everything Rudd and Gillard have done and implement Fightback! to the extent that it isn’t obsolete.
How could the buck stop with Bush, if Bush was never informed in the first place?
I don’t quite get your argument Les. It’s not as though Bush was even aware they had him in their sights. Bush is ultimately responsible, but he did not let him go.
Panetta had him killed. He is one of the few adults in the room in that administration.
The group formerly condemned by Democrats as “Dick Cheney’s Illegal Assassination Squad.” You know, SEAL Team 6 – the outfit that regards Obama as a dishonorable douchebag.
Who got the actual mastermind of 9/11?
Oh, that’s right. BUSH.
Recently President Obama has come under fire from both the left and the right for politicizing the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden, including a major campaign advertisement a speech from Afghanistan timed to the anniversary of the raid, and a campaign press-blitz intended to cement the decision as a ‘gutsy call.’ In the words of the campaign ad: “suppose the [SEALs] had been … killed, the downside would have been horrible for him.” Yes indeed, when American servicemen are killed, the political fallout is just awful.
It was initially believed that the politicization of the raid began after it was successfully carried out. However, in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal, former Attorney General Michael Mukasey revealed that a recently disclosed memo from then-CIA Director Leon Panetta had a built-in political insurance policy should the raid have failed: the blame would be shifted to Admiral William McRaven, then-Commander of the Joint Special Operations Command. According to the memo, “The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President … The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out.”In other words, if the mission failed, it would be because Admiral McRaven failed to correctly oversee the mission. This shift-the-blame political insurance policy is sadly illustrative of the extent that the raid has been politicized, even prior to its execution.
Eastern Libya is crawling with Al Qaeda, who moved in the day after Nato moved out, reinforcing the broader threat to Europe by a lawlessness North Africa.
A quite extraordinary article from a reknown moderate public servant Michael Mukasey, U.S. attorney general from 2007-09, and a U.S. district judge from 1988 to 2006 in a WSJ op-ed
Obama and the bin Laden Bragging Rights
It’s hard to imagine Lincoln or Eisenhower claiming such credit for the heroic actions of others.
The first anniversary of the SEAL Team 6 operation that killed Osama bin Laden brings the news that President Obama plans during the coming campaign to exploit the bragging rights to the achievement. That plan invites scrutiny that is unlikely to benefit him.
those quips have been tried here hundreds of times and aren’t funny anymore. Try to improve your trolling since the beating you received when attempting to peddle solar power with Everready batteries. Moron.
It’s worth noting that Mukasey penned that op-ed before Obummer went to Afghanistan and it was published on the day he went to Afghanistan for no other reason than to spike the football on bin Laden’s death.
Obummer is both shameless and disgusting like most extreme leftists.
Mukasey was even more precient than he could have realised.
A wingnut is someone on the far-right wing or far-left wing of the political spectrum – the professional partisans, the unhinged activists and the paranoid conspiracy theorists. They’re the people who always try to divide rather than unite us.
A wingnut is someone on the far-right wing or far-left wing of the political spectrum – the professional partisans, the unhinged activists and the paranoid conspiracy theorists. They’re the people who always try to divide rather than unite us.
They’re the people who always try to divide rather than unite us.
Yes, when the leaders of the hive mind issue their commands on what the unworthy unwashed masses should think, they should shut up, not argue with the appeal to Authority in a Nicolai Ceausescu’esque consensus of 97%.
We know Steve, the science is settled and the people must shush.
Does anyone even care if Abbot becomes another Malcolm Fraser or not? FFS
Who doesn’t worry about that when it comes to Abbott?
Looking at his record, he had the political sense to take down 2 sitting (though incompetent) PM’s. In his time in government he was an effective minister who had both the vision to see the flaws in Work Choices & the courage to speak up about it.
That’s so much more than the sociopath and the slapper. So it will be 50 steps in a forward direction.
BARRY HUMPHRIES: Thomson is a liar and a rat bag. No question of that and I deplore – and it’s moving onto rather another theme a famous television network like Nine and their actions in paying a prostitute an amount of money like that to sort of sing like a canary, in the same way as another television program, well known television magazine program, door-stopped my friend Clive James.
JOHN HEWSON: Oh yes.
BARRY HUMPHRIES: Quite recently.
JOHN HEWSON: It was outrageous.
BARRY HUMPHRIES: And produced some floozy and humiliated him in the street and they flew this woman across the world for this deplorable, disgraceful piece of television. Something serious is happening and there is a thing called the Press Council, which seems absolutely impotent. I mean all they did was tut, tut over that and, meanwhile, we have to put up with this fellow Craig Thomson, who admittedly looks devastated. So he should, I think.
DAVID MARR: He’s not devastated enough to confess he did it.
Abbott’s the ghost of the DLP – which is why he causes otherwise sane adult Labor Party members to break down in mouth foaming convulsions of utter hate.
Mr. Ray has now come forward and clarified the university’s role in this controversy, insinuating he merely went along with information volunteered to him by Professor Warren. Ms. Warren, however, refuses comment, even though the allegations in this story include falsifying federal diversity compliance reports.
This really looks bad for her, however the Dems are having some sort of vote thing for a local primary and the communist bitch could actually lose it, which means they put up another candidate.
However Fauxhantas is finished.
But don’t forget that this is a state which continued to vote in a man that essentially left a woman to die in a ditched car. So nothing is safe for a GOP’er there.
My dog doesn’t like beetroot, either. But that’s because she’s a kelpie. Beetroot is the best vegie that ever came out of a can. Recommended by nine out of 10 farm boys.
The study provides further evidence of the federal government’s inability to sell the extraordinary story of Australia’s economic and social resilience.
From a very sad story about women being burned at the stake (in this day and age) as the villagers believe them to be witches. Their eyes go red due to the dung used for cooking fuel.
But then this last line stood out:
The centre said that many local people believe that witchcraft is behind every misfortune from infertility and poverty to failure in business, famine and earthquakes.
and I couldn’t help but think that’s the same line Brown, Flannery and the climate cabal use.
I don’t dislike the person Julia Gillard because she’s childless and shacked up. I dislike her because she’s amoral, a hatemonger and clinically dishonest.
You, on the other hand, like anyone who’s left-wing just because they’re left-wing.
Ed Morrissey on a Democrat and Obama-backed holocaust:
Want to see a real war on women? Not one defined by the opposition to the imposition of a Hubby State and subsidies, but one in which women of the future are systematically eliminated? Live Action went undercover last month at a number of abortion clinics across the nation to expose how the abortion industry assists and even encourages gender-selective abortion, a global trend that has eliminated tens of millions of girls before they ever draw breath outside the womb. The video also shows a Planned Parenthood counselor in Texas explaining to a young mother how to defraud Medicaid…
Who are your intellectual heroes? > Charles Darwin, Niccolo Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, The Founding Fathers, Friedrich Hayek.
What is your favourite poem? > I love William Blake’s ‘The Tyger’. Dazzling imagery, red in tooth and claw, makes mincemeat of the peaceable kingdom paradigm.
Admittedly President Obama’s rhetoric lacks Roosevelt’s biblical flourishes. Nevertheless, the intent of Obama’s recent assault on Mitt Romney’s record as chief executive of Bain Capital is essentially the same…
Yes, I know it’s shocking. Before Mitt Romney entered politics, he started up and successfully ran a private-equity shop. He turned money-losing companies around, partly by firing surplus employees. Before Barack Obama entered politics, he was a community organizer, then a lawyer. The firm where he worked in the 1990s specialized in civil-rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Visit Chicago to see how well that went.
The president wants this election to be the White House vs. Wall Street. But if it’s really Harvard Business School vs. Harvard Law School, I’ll take the M.B.A. over the J.D. every time.
The only jobs lawyers ever create are for other lawyers. And if you don’t believe me, you clearly haven’t read Dodd-Frank.
Bean and Nothingness
An essay on the phenomenological ontology of racial preferences.
So it seems the bean-counters in Cambridge and Washington relied on Warren’s own self-definition (bean for itself), which she adopted from her mother (bean for others). But does that mean that all human beans are entitled to classify themselves however they want? Can a white bean pass itself off as a red bean with impunity?
Apparently not. Another set of bean-counting rules suggests that existence (bean in itself) precedes essence. “Both Harvard’s guidelines and federal regulations for the statistics lay out a specific definition of Native American that Warren does not meet,” the Globe reports.
‘Taxmageddon’ isn’t only about the half-trillion-dollar blow to the economy that arrives in 2013 on the end of the Bush-Obama tax rates. Several of the Affordable Care Act’s worst tax increases kick in too, such as the new excise tax on medical devices.
The 2.3% levy applies to the sale of everything from cardiac defibrillators to artificial joints to MRI scanners. The device tax is supposed to raise $28.5 billion from 2013 to 2022, and it is especially harmful because it applies to gross sales, not profits. Companies at make-or-break margins could be taxed out of existence, especially in an intensely competitive industry where four of five businesses are start-ups or midsized.
As even the liberal papoose Elizabeth Warren recently put it, the device tax “disproportionately impacts the small companies with the narrowest financial margins and the broadest innovative potential.”
According to his promo, Neil Mitchell this morning will attempt a middle-of-the-road Fairfax defence of Gina Rinehart and a mild rebuke of Q&A from 8.35am.
Though it stinks of pop-psychology, these are interesting observations by one of The Oz’s pet lefties about the feel of the PM’s offices in the past 20 years:
Real leaders define the times and create themes, though they are flexible they should not be instinctively reactive. Which Labor leader meets that criteria of leadership?
Of course there were racists in the Republican party. There were racists in the Democratic party. The case of Johnson is well documented, while Nixon had his fantastical panoply of racial obsessions, touching blacks, Jews, Italians (“Don’t have their heads screwed on”), Irish (“They get mean when they drink”), and the Ivy League WASPs he hated so passionately (“Did one of those dirty bastards ever invite me to his f***ing men’s club or goddamn country club? Not once”).
The depth of Johnson’s prior opposition to civil-rights reform must be digested in some detail to be properly appreciated. In the House, he did not represent a particularly segregationist constituency (it “made up for being less intensely segregationist than the rest of the South by being more intensely anti-Communist,” as the New York Times put it), but Johnson was practically antebellum in his views. Never mind civil rights or voting rights: In Congress, Johnson had consistently and repeatedly voted against legislation to protect black Americans from lynching.
Republican support in the South was not among poor whites or the old elites — the two groups that tended to hold the most retrograde beliefs on race — but among the emerging southern middle class
he conservative ascendency of 1964 saw the nomination of Barry Goldwater, a western libertarian who had never been strongly identified with racial issues one way or the other, but who was a principled critic of the 1964 act and its extension of federal power. Goldwater had supported the 1957 and 1960 acts but believed that Title II and Title VII of the 1964 bill were unconstitutional, based in part on a 75-page brief from Robert Bork. But far from extending a welcoming hand to southern segregationists, he named as his running mate a New York representative, William E. Miller, who had been the co-author of Republican civil-rights legislation in the 1950s. The Republican platform in 1964 was hardly catnip for Klansmen: It spoke of the Johnson administration’s failure to help further the “just aspirations of the minority groups” and blasted the president for his refusal “to apply Republican-initiated retraining programs where most needed, particularly where they could afford new economic opportunities to Negro citizens.” Other planks in the platform included: “improvements of civil rights statutes adequate to changing needs of our times; such additional administrative or legislative actions as may be required to end the denial, for whatever unlawful reason, of the right to vote; continued opposition to discrimination based on race, creed, national origin or sex.”
That is a great article Jeff as it concisely summarises what I’ve found about the truth about race relations, as I’ve been reading US history in depth over a few of years.
I’ve read a LBJ biography which whitewashed so many fact about the man, but still the stench Williamson notes could not be avoided.
Improbable as it seems, the Zimbabwean president, who is widely accused of ethnic cleansing, rigging elections, terrorising opposition, controlling media and presiding over a collapsed economy, has been endorsed as a champion of efforts to boost global holidaymaking.
Despite that fact Mugabe, 88, is under a travel ban, he has been honoured as a “leader for tourism” by the UN’s World Tourism Organisation, along with his political ally, Zambian president Michael Sata, 75.
From Niall Ferguson’s article which JamesK linked to @1:50am:
Yes, I know it’s shocking. Before Mitt Romney entered politics, he started up and successfully ran a private-equity shop. He turned money-losing companies around, partly by firing surplus employees. Before Barack Obama entered politics, he was a community organizer, then a lawyer. The firm where he worked in the 1990s specialized in civil-rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Visit Chicago to see how well that went.
When voting and when leading the public by speeches, Nixon was on the correct side in the fight against communism and the correct side when it came to civil rights.
A new “mega” department has been created called “Human Services” which has swallowed Medicare, Centrelink and Child Support.
Here are some choice quotes from the Minister to staff:
This statement emphasised the importance of the work of the Department, charged as it is with the maintenance and repair of this country’s social fabric. It reminded the Senate that every Australian is served by the Department of Human Services, from cradle to grave.
It underpins the Commonwealth’s relationship with its people: as children and parents; as patients and carers; in study, in work and in retirement. It looks after people facing financial hardship or at the sharp end of structural adjustment. It welcomes people to Australia, and it works for Australians through every stage of their lives.
For all the prosperity our country enjoys, there is no disguising the profound inequalities we have yet to overcome.
It has pleased me to learn that there are some 1200 Departmental employees out in the community today, serving as social workers or outreach officers.
They aren’t waiting behind the counters – they are going out to schools, to maternity wards, to nursing homes, to jails, to any place where people need support.
Not just the most destitute – but students, and new mums, and retirees, and migrants. Every Australian is served by the Department of Human Services, from the cradle to the grave.
Just in case anyone was labouring under the impression that Federal bureaucrats don’t see themselves as a totalitarian force.
The exiled Labor MP Craig Thomson sent Coalition MPs running for the doors this morning as they sought to negate his support when he voted with the Opposition.
In extraordinary scenes just after 9am, the Opposition tried to suspend standing orders to debate the issue of debt.
The government moved to gag the debate and Mr Thomson, who has always voted with Labor since being exiled a month ago, instead joined the other crossbenchers who, on principle, never support a gag motion.
“Not just the most destitute – but students, and new mums, and retirees, and migrants. Every Australian is served by the Department of Human Services, from the cradle to the grave. ”
that’d be the last thing a new mum would need, a social worker coming into their house and interfering.
Nixon was great. He had the worst predecessor-caused inheritence of any President of the twentieth century and set about trying to turn it around. Not only the Democrat disaster in Vietnam but the beginnings of Johnson’s communism vis-a-vis the economy. He was perfectly justified in going after traitor Daniel Ellsberg and that was the key motivation behind the Watergate burglary – a small-beer affair compared to the vast crimes of Johnson and Kennedy.
And if it wasn’t for the rather strange decision to persist in audio-recording his entire presidency, we wouldn’t have the impression that his language, anti-semitism etc was any different to his predecessors.’ When you think of Kennedy pimping out a young intern to give a blow job to some revolting staffer, it’s realy weird that Nixon gets the rap for being the amoral weirdo par excellence of the Oval Office.
He was a magnificently brilliant and flawed bastard who understood power and how to wield it. If it wasn’t for the pro-communist cowards of the Democrat Party and the media, the North Vietnamese would have pooed their pants at the prospect of confronting him for another two years.
A new “mega” department has been created called “Human Services” … It reminded the Senate that every Australian is served by the Department of Human Services, from cradle to grave.
If that doesn’t send a chill up your spine, there’s something intrinsically wrong with you.
This statement emphasised the importance of the work of the Department, charged as it is with the maintenance and repair of this country’s social fabric. It reminded the Senate that every Australian is served by the Department of Human Services, from cradle to grave.
FMD, that makes any normal citizen want to vomit.
Thousands of these people have to be sacked. Thrown on the street. If an Abbott government doesn’t do this, writ large – if they go on being nice guys and leaving the leftist apparatus in place – they deserve to die on the vine like Fraser and friends.
that’d be the last thing a new mum would need, a social worker coming into their house and interfering.
Had one of these nosy busybodies drop round the day after we took our firstborn home from the hospital. I was unloading groceries from the car including a sixpack of beer, which she made some nice but slightly passive-aggressive comment about. I can just imagine the filenote – ‘monitor for possible alcoholic father’. I normally buy beer in slabs – that probably would have prompted a followup visit!
Was tempted to say ‘fuck off bitch and mind your own business’, but of course was polite and said we’re fine thanks. Didn’t let her into the house.
Had one of these nosy busybodies drop round the day after we took our firstborn home from the hospital. I was unloading groceries from the car including a sixpack of beer, which she made some nice but slightly passive-aggressive comment about. I can just imagine the filenote – ‘monitor for possible alcoholic father’. I normally buy beer in slabs – that probably would have prompted a followup visit!
Was tempted to say ‘fuck off bitch and mind your own business’, but of course was polite and said we’re fine thanks. Didn’t let her into the house.
We had follow-up visits because of choosing not to breast feed.
1st Course
Homemade sausages made from a mixture of pure lean beef & pork neck blended with a little crushed garlic & sweet red paprika.
2nd Course
Tasting plate of eye fillet medallions, young calves liver, hamburger patties and slices of pork neck.
3rd course
Eye fillet, porterhouse or rump steak. This is the patron’s choice of cut selected from a tray presented to the table by the waiter. It is Vlado’s pleasure that his guests suggest any particular requirement at this time which not only includes taste preference but also cooking preference.
For those who would like wagyu, it is available at an additional cost and is marbled at Vlado’s suggested score of 8.
4th course
The everlasting retro desert of strawberries and crepes with ice cream and cream served with coffee or tea.
that’d be the last thing a new mum would need, a social worker coming into their house and interfering.
They’re following the UK’s Blair / Brown tyranical social services platform lead to a tee.
55% of new jobs are government jobs, the bulk of those are in Social Services.
Expect to see stories like this appearing here:
For more than two years the couple have been fighting through 74 hearings in the courts to win their daughter back. From a mass of evidence, including psychiatric reports and tape recordings made at meetings with her parents (only allowed in the presence of social workers), it is clear she has been desperate to return home. The family believe that considerable pressure has been brought on the child to turn her against her parents.
One particularly bizarre psychiatric report was compiled after only an hour-long interview with the little girl. When she said she had once choked on a lollipop, this was interpreted as signifying that she could possibly have “been forced to have oral sex with her father”.
After the parents had been subjected to four different psychiatric investigations, which came up with mixed findings, they refused to submit to a fifth, and this apparently weighed heavily with the judge who last December ordered that “Jenny” should be put out to adoption.
In the Appeal Court 11 days ago, Mr Justice Bodey ruled that, because the father had refused that fifth test, indicating that the parents put their own “emotional wellbeing” in front of that of their child, the adoption order must stand. When this judgment was reported, an independent social worker, who had earlier been an expert witness in the case, wrote to Mr and Mrs Smith to say he was “horrified” to learn that Jenny was “not back in their care”, having assumed for over a year that “she must have been returned home”.
I’m embarrassed to admit that I live less than a km from Vlados but have never eaten there. It’s widely known as the best steaks in Melbourne, few would argue.
My mates have all gone soft these days and prefer organic fusion food or somesuch.
Had one of these nosy busybodies drop round the day after we took our firstborn home from the hospital. I was unloading groceries from the car including a sixpack of beer, which she made some nice but slightly passive-aggressive comment about. I can just imagine the filenote – ‘monitor for possible alcoholic father’. I normally buy beer in slabs – that probably would have prompted a followup visit!
Was tempted to say ‘fuck off bitch and mind your own business’, but of course was polite and said we’re fine thanks. Didn’t let her into the house.
This is why I’d recommend buying into a good area. You will not be profiled like this.
It was the maternal and child health outreach or something like that. The hospital must have tipped them off.
Bizarre as there wasn’t the slightest issue with the hopsital birth (a scheduled caesarian but that’s not unusual these days), and breastfeeding was OK
CL: I think you’ll find it usually a visit by a community nurse and they are mainly interested in how the new mother is coping, and in particular, hasn’t come down with a serious case of post natal depression.
that’d be the last thing a new mum would need, a social worker coming into their house and interfering.
When both of our little ‘uns were born we shared space with very young unmarried mothers with immature fathers. It was good that the boys at least showed up, though I imagine they were dragged in by the ear.
In both cases the non-Aus parents [different each time] of the Aus born mother were around to help. The girls mother would say responsible things and impart important advice, but the little minxs would ignore them.
Rather, the girls would only listen to the government provided social workers who provided the exact same advice.
The boys were even worse. The social workers could not get through to the morons.
So many things to worry about, the system is just so wrong…
CL: I think you’ll find it usually a visit by a community nurse and they are mainly interested in how the new mother is coping, and in particular, hasn’t come down with a serious case of post natal depression.
Bullshit.
It is because they think they know better than the little people.
So this is like checking up on families in Willoughby?
In my case – Lindfield – house value 1m+ father in banking mother a teriary educated stay at home mum who couldn’t breastfeed. All in all we had about 4 visits. They get into your house so stublely its scarey. I had an old muscle car at the time. the nurse commented on it to my mrs.
Was tempted to say ‘fuck off bitch and mind your own business’, but of course was polite and said we’re fine thanks. Didn’t let her into the house.
But of course you were polite, she has the power to begin proceedings to destroy your family, take your children and place them in an abusive environment before you even get your boots on.
That’s how we all act when these people arrive on the doorstep “to help”.
Friends of ours had a “visit” after a neighbour complained their sons were playing out the front of their house – this in a quiet coastal town, in a quiet cul-de-sac.
Other friends had a “visit” because their 9 year old boy had a faint scratch on his neck that he couldn’t explain to his teacher.
We’ve heard on the grape vine there are others in around the place who also have had “visits” for similar reasons, but few tell because of the shame of it.
On the other hand other friends told us their sister was a totally out of control bi-polar junkie, they rang social services out of worry for their nieces and social services never bothered with it.
No one is paranoid, SFB. But unlike you, others do not believe the grubberment knows better than them on how to raise their kids, you sniveling fascist.
Token: From Niall Ferguson’s article which JamesK linked to @1:50am:
Yes, I know it’s shocking. Before Mitt Romney entered politics, he started up and successfully ran a private-equity shop. He turned money-losing companies around, partly by firing surplus employees. Before Barack Obama entered politics, he was a community organizer, then a lawyer. The firm where he worked in the 1990s specialized in civil-rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Visit Chicago to see how well that went
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BAM!! How do like ‘dem apples!
But Token, Les the racistkiddie squeals and pants that the Preshizzle (PACO™) is his heeeeeeero for personally leading the SEAL team that killed the paleosimian terrorist dirtball Osama!
How dare you say Les the racistkiddie’s heeeeeeero does not walk on water and give orders to Marx?
After every time our pet racistkiddie talks about the Preshizzle (PACO™) he has to go and change his undies. it’s a special sort of love.
and they are mainly interested in how the new mother is coping, and in particular, hasn’t come down with a serious case of post natal depression.
doubtless SfB is right, that’s the official purpose of the visits.
But it IS nosy and patronising, and the DO think they know best*. When she saw the sixpack she said something like ‘oh it’s good that you’re treating yourself’ in a sarcastic tone.
*By the way, while you get good and bad child nurses, some have NO fucking idea. We were concerned that our child might be mildly autistic and the maternal and child health was adamant that, because he could point at 18 months this was not possible.
He was offcially diagnosed about six months later. We might have got the diagnosis and early intervention sooner if it wasn’t for that dumb bitch.
and they are mainly interested in how the new mother is coping, and in particular, hasn’t come down with a serious case of post natal depression.
doubtless SfB is right, that’s the official purpose of the visits.
It is a fair concern. A mate’s wife got it real bad after the 2nd child. 6 months of his life working long hours a long way from family support, looking after 2 small children and a PND wife.
It wasn’t the social worker that helped her get over it, and the government did not care less about him. ‘Twas the network of friends & professional care for the woman what did it.
Morgan records the biggest ever Coalition lead over Labor… but everybody hates Toyabbott. Obviously if they switched to His Holiness Pope Wentworth the Liberals’ reign would last a thousand years. Remember how much better his polling was?
CL: I think you’ll find it usually a visit by a community nurse and they are mainly interested in how the new mother is coping, and in particular, hasn’t come down with a serious case of post natal depression.
In the ACT they come around every week for weeks. On our second the mrs was not interested in having one by every week.
They made it clear someone would be by whether we liked it or not.
It’s at the point where you simply could not blame the parents should they have acquired the means and skills and be cheerfully working their way through a death list the bastards responsible.
Feral: Chris Kenny posted a great article which answers the Yabbott crap Fatty Farr, Grattan & co are on about.
Yes, the Yeti has been spotted again, scampering across State Circle towards The Lodge. As I have written before, our national political class, left-leaning as it is, has been consistently looking for and spotting the emergence of a Julia Gillard comeback. But like the Yeti, it is often spotted and never materialises…
Player’s Equipment Policy
Football NSW has recently consolidated all its rules and regulations in respect of playing equipment into one document known as the “Player’s Equipment Policy”.The purpose of the Player’s Equipment Policy is to elaborate on the current rules of FIFA, FFA and Football NSW and to emphasise the recent decision made by the International Football Association Board to allow the wearing ofthe Hijab in football matches. The policy is available on the Football NSW website
Dot as twostix said that would land you in dock with your kids taken away, so better not.
I’m glad they didn’t insist on coming inside, as I have a thing about people from the government insisiting on access to my property.
Some woman lobbed up once wanting to do an ‘energy audit’ of my lightbulbs or whatnot. Turns out she wasn’t from one of the green energy compnay rentseekers instead of the govt but claimed that they audits would soon be mandatory. I said something like ‘just let them try and access my property’
Dr Phelps is a libertarian with social conservative tendencies, placing him within the ‘fusionist’ school of conservative political philosophy. His political hero is Ronald Reagan.
Some woman lobbed up once wanting to do an ‘energy audit’ of my lightbulbs or whatnot.
Heh. Same here. So was most surprised when I told her, politely, thanks but no thanks. The hide of the (then labor) government. You want entry into my house, get a warrant.
I think “fuck off you fascist tart” is the correct way to address a community nurse.
File Note:
Father demonstrated verabl abuse towards women. Need to follow up re: likely spousal abuse.
Father was secretive and did not permit me access to residence, child or mother – concern that this is attempt to hide abuse, neglect or criminal behaviour.
Follow up visit required and background checks with police to see if pattern of violence has been demonstrated in past.
The state owns your children. When you register their birth you transfer ownership to the state. It’s only natural for them to check up on their assets.
Whatever one feels about the sharia-enforcing, Jew-hating, genital-mutilating enthusiasts of the Muslim Brotherhood, they do accurately reflect a significant slice — and perhaps a majority — of the Egyptian people. The problem with the old-school dictators was that in the end Mubarak, Ben Ali, and Qaddafi didn’t represent anything other than their Swiss bank accounts. The question for the wider world is what do “social media” represent? If they supposedly embody the forces of progress and modernity, then they’ve just taken an electoral pounding from guys who haven’t had a new idea since the seventh century….
Ideas on liberty, free speech, property rights, women’s rights, and all the other things conspicuous by their absence in the philosophies of Egypt’s new political class. In the end, a revolution cannot be tweeted. Whatever their defects, the unlovely forces running the new Egypt understand the difference between actually mutilating a young girl’s genitals to deny her the possibility of sexual pleasure, and merely “following” your local clitoridectomist on his Twitter feed…..
Facebook’s flat IPO and Egypt’s presidential election are in that sense part of the same story, of a developed world whose definitions of innovation and achievement have become too shrunken and undernourished. The vote in Egypt tells us a lot about them, but it also tells us something about us.
I particularly like how Obama rationalized his preppie drug use as “something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind . . .” His classmates, in contrast, in these articles seemed to find his explanation puzzlingly gratuitous. Many of them smoked dope on the beach, too, but they didn’t need a racial identity crisis caused by the white power structure to justify their getting high. It was, like, Hawaii in the 1970s, you know? Maui Wowie, dude!
People are conflating “social worker” with “nurse” or “community nurse”. I am fairly certain workers who are one or the other don’t care to have their job, qualifications and roles mixed up like that.
People are conflating “social worker” with “nurse” or “community nurse”. I am fairly certain workers who are one or the other don’t care to have their job, qualifications and roles mixed up like that.
SfB you’re right in that they’re different roles, but the fact is that community nurses act as if they’re scoail workers.
They shouldn’t as they’re not qualified to do so. In fact they should focus on what they’re supposed to be qualified to do. Mine wasn’t even able to pick up the signs of autism correctly and gave false information which amounts to professional negligence for a qualified nurse.
The state owns your children. When you register their birth you transfer ownership to the state. It’s only natural for them to check up on their assets.
ople are conflating “social worker” with “nurse” or “community nurse”.
All these positions would be required by law to reportsuspected abuse and neglect of children. All have the power to have your child removed on suspicion.
Army chief Lt-General David Morrison has banned the Rising Sun Badge from slouch hats (downturned brim). He has also banned ADF personnel wearing more than four commendation badges. Granted, the RSL is probably over-reacting to a decision that applies only to downturned brim usage. Nevertheless, here’s Lt-General Morrison demonstrating his preference for bling sobriety.
The new drug type is fairly fuzzy. Some data here. Looks to be made from mephedrone, methylone and methylenedioxypyrovalerone. So another in the methylenedioxymethamphetamine/methylamphetamine production line, another entactogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine classes at least in produceability. Bad juju
CL, I think it very likely that this type of program has been well studied as a cost effective way of getting post natal depression (amongst other potential problems) recognised early, and that early intervention has greater chance of success and limiting the cost of the illness.
People are conflating “social worker” with “nurse” or “community nurse”. I am fairly certain workers who are one or the other don’t care to have their job, qualifications and roles mixed up like that.
In the ACT post natal vists are a government program and they’re bound by mandatory reporting requirements to report anything out of the ordinary to Child Services.
So yes, they’re proxy social workers – the government sends them around to your house to make sure that you’re not neglecting your baby (they call it “coping”).
If you’re not “coping” what is the very first thing they do? Involve Child Services.
Community nurses are trained to ask questions that would elicit typical symptoms and observe for signs. The diagnosis is made by a doctor after referral.
The community nurse isn’t as bad as it sounds. Generally she just asks how you’re feeling, weighs the baby to make sure it’s gaining weight and solves any problems you may have with breat feeding etc. To be honest I thought we got the nurse visit because we were private patients, didn’t realsie it had anything to do with the government.
Considering the scum that have kids it’s not that big an evil. I’d like the state to be removing hundreds of kids from their current parents, so I guess I’m a fascist.
You are a raving fascist. Go hang yourself in the ladies with a necktie. Children visit this website. We cannot have you infecting them with your filth. GO!!!
Milne, The Other Minister for Abbott, just had a mini rant disguised as a press conf, complete with reporters etc. At the end of the rant, no one asked her any questions due to lack of interest.
it seems very inappropriate for nurse to disregard a parent’s worry over autism or other disorders of their child.
fucking negligent is what it is. You go back to these guys for immunisations at 1 year and 3 years, at 3 yrs especially is when signs of autism become apparent, but they can be spotted as early as 1 year if you know what to look for.
The earlier it’s picked up the better and if there’s one useful thing these community nurses can do is to spot that and gently recommend a developmental assessment by a paediatrician.
All the medical literature on the subject says that parents know their chld best and if they suspect something’s ‘not quite right’ get a referral to a paediatrician.
Twitter is aflood with people defending Craig Thompson and using him and his craven game today to attack Abbott and Pyne for making sure they weren’t caught in it.
The left have no core, it’s all mush, they’ve officially put Thompson onto the victim totem.
Don’t get me wrong, community nurses are not bad people and genuinely mean well. Most are reasonably knowledgeable, I was just unlucky with one that gave me some dodgy information. Luckily we largely ignored it and went to the doctor instead.
I do find the government visist very patronising however, and if they’d insisted on watching my wife breastfeed I would have told them to fuck off. Actually she would have got in first
Considering the scum that have kids it’s not that big an evil. I’d like the state to be removing hundreds of kids from their current parents, so I guess I’m a fascist
Mandatory reporting is another example of a good intention leading to poor policy outcomes and leads to a well-founded fear of child services.
Blog participant with the most gratuitous concern with sexuality in a matter not related to sexuality”?
Agree that their sexuality should have nothing to do with the issue. But all too often they make is so with their identity politcs. Witness Miriam Whatesername’s comment on Q&A about being ‘an old Jewish lesbian of the Left’, which had absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Mandatory reporting is another example of a good intention leading to poor policy outcomes and leads to a well-founded fear of child services.
Really care to give actual examples of the poor outcomes versus the alternative? Do you know why mandatory reporting for suspected abuse/neglect by doctors, health workers, teachers and others was introduced? Because so many actual cases of neglect and abuse went unreported & uninvestigated when nobody saw it as their specific responsibility.
I hope the Coalition go after Thomson until he self harms. I don’t wish him to die, but it would be nice if he maybe jumped of a low brick wall and sprained his ankle. Who knows, maybe that would stop him walking up the stairs to brothels?
I get asked to do shit like this quite often. But I let people know that I have to be invited. The pressure to keep numbers of consults up is only moderate in this organisation, but in QHealth, it’s quite ferocious.
When I think of the funds pissed into the wind on Social Services, I think of the waste for such little return. Remember Redfern?
On the other hand, Rudi,on ABC24 some Labor MP was being interviewed (I only got the tail end and didn’t see who it was). Questioned asked and the MP started to respond methodically with “Abbott”, to which the interviewer quickly cut in and said
Another inane ley leiberal is Peter van Onselen who I make a point of nver ssupporting by clicking on the links to his articles or Sky program cos h’s a dyed-in-the-wool tosser.
The sub-editor headline on his latest oop-ed in the Oz:
“Abbott is safe as long as PM stays”
The deranged fuckwittery among the lefgtist class is awesome
The Libs need to double down on Thompson after this disgusting stunt. As usual if you give the left an inch they’ll repay you with a punch in the face.
Here’s how it went in the PMO’s office:
“We’ve got to neutralise the libs “tainted vote” narrative”
“We’ll wait until numbers are even on some vote, then we’ll get Thompson to sneak over one minute before bells ring”
“Then we can say Abbott accepts his vote, he’s a hypocrite, etc – the love media will eat it up”.
“The optics of Abbott avoiding it will be great even if he does get out!”
Notice in all of this Thompson is still regarded as a fully payed up member of the Labor party tactic squad and the Parliament is used as the ALP’s personal playground.
Gab, I’ve manually deleted all ABC Ch’s so i don’t even have to flip over them.
Probably should put them back to get a bit more perspective……maybe tomorrow.
The anti-gas movement continues, with ABC reporting a whole section of the Condamine river bubbling with methane. Don’t stagnant ponds and swamps do that?
Don’t get me started with mandatory reporting. I know of a case where the public hospital did a botch of the birth, resulting in cranial bleeding of the newborn. This lead to mild brain damage, learning and sight difficulties in the child.
When the child was still a newborn typical overreacting parents took baby back to hospital twice for small ailments, which triggered mandatory reporting. Somehow the hospital figured they could cover their behinds and reported said family to child services for possible abuse, citing ‘shaken baby’. Child Services turned up on the doorstep with a capsule and took 2 month old child away.
Family battled for 2 years and x0,000′s in legal bills to get child back. Managed to get the child released into grandparents care in the meantime. After all was said and done, completely exonerated. No apology or cover of legal costs in the end.
In the end they left the city/state to start a new life somewhere else and put it all behind them. I have no idea how the marriage survived through all that, but it did. The psychological and financial damage to the parents is apparent to this day – hardly a happy childhood to reflect back on.
I hate those guys with a passion. They seem to leave kids in the houses of junkies until they die, yet delight in destroying normal middle class families.
Do you know why mandatory reporting for suspected abuse/neglect by doctors, health workers, teachers and others was introduced? Because so many actual cases of neglect and abuse went unreported & uninvestigated when nobody saw it as their specific responsibility.
And making everyone’s responsibility is not the answer. You now have minimally trained people making superficial assessments of people that in some cases they have barely met on the basis of guilty-until-proven-innocent.
Staff who work in the area (and I know some) are fearful that a) they will be blamed for missing something minor down the track and b) they will be seen by their clients as spies for Child Services – which is basically true.
If you ever find yourself the subject of a mandatory report, you may not be so sanguine about the legislation. But of course it is not designed to affect nice middle class people who can fight back ..
Child abuse will continue to happen with or without mandatory reporting but innocent families will continue to be ripped apart because of it. Where is the actual evidence it works?
There do seem to be some shocking cases reported in the media of babies and young children being bashed by stepfathers usually, the child eventually taken to hospital and dying after a young life of torment.
But the social workers miss these cases seemingly. Perhaps there’s only a few but.
IT it was a few years ago. It was talked about but the family never wanted to step into a courtroom ever again. IIRC they needed a doctor to go against the hospital doctors, and unlike a Grisham novel, it’s much harder to do in practice than in theory and costs money upfront. Cash was a major problem at the time. They were saving to purchase a house, the deposit was gone and then they had to borrow money from family. They just bailed from the state and started again.
McAlpine was a prominent Conservative peer, close in his views to Margaret Thatcher. He had been both Treasurer and Deputy Chairman of the Conservative Party.
By jingos the man is entertaining and provides some magnificient context to the movie.
Interesting how he notes the lefty director of Thatcher came by the visit but did not ask about his experience with the Iron Laday talked about fertiliser.
There do seem to be some shocking cases reported in the media of babies and young children being bashed by stepfathers usually, the child eventually taken to hospital and dying after a young life of torment
Yep – and this happens under the current Mandatory Reporting regime. Mandatory reporting does not appear to lead to any diminuition in rates of child abuse but it does suck in a much larger group of families into the Child Services maw. That’s a positive outcome?
A bit of further googling indicates that there are methane bubbles naturally occurring on rivers all over the world, and that natural causes, not drilling for gas, are usually to blame. Decomposition of organic material is an obvious one, but there’s even a chance of other chemical reactions going on under certain conditions, leading to a CH4 outcome. Instances are noted in places like Norway, Siberia, and Switzerland, not just the tropics.
There do seem to be some shocking cases reported in the media of babies and young children being bashed by stepfathers usually, the child eventually taken to hospital and dying after a young life of torment.
There is a certain class of men who like to move in with single mothers…
@Matt – I’d like to see evidence it is doing more good than harm. Because just based on the available media stories I don’t think that is the case. I doubt deaths from abuse or neglect are down, mainly because those sorts of people are the ones that don’t go near medical or government services.
However innocent families getting torn apart from state meddling is definitely a modern intervention.
A mate (Registered Nurse) who worked in ICU in a large metropolitan hospital had warned social services of a young girl being physically abused over a two year period. Multiple admissions for fractures, etc. SS did nothing. Then one day she came in with a cerebral bleed from being bashed. (You don’t need to know the rest.) He walked out of ICU, went to the SS office and dragged the senior person out of a meeting, physically manhandled her down to ICU and demanded she watch the turning off of the the life support machinery of the 8yo.
They knew what was going on, but it was an Aboriginal family and therefore in the ‘too hard’ basket.
Not one of the saved generation.
Interesting watching Hockey give a good press conf this morning, a few minutes after Abbott’s speech to the Mining Council. Ih his speech, Abbott said that some people say it will be very hard for him to repeal the carbon dioxide tax but that it wouldn’t stop him.
So back to Hockey, wherein some idiot troublemaker posing as a “reporter”, with the intention of a “gotcha”, questioned Hockey on Abbott’s comment saying that Abbot said “it would be too hard to repeal the carbon tax”.
To his credit, Hockey said: “I’m not going to comment on your interpretation of what Mr Abbott said”.
It says something about the state of things when just about everyone knows a story involving either meddling by the state in innocent families, or the state totally ignoring cases where it should be involved.
A cynical observer such as myself would say they are looking for soft targets to fill their quota rather than trying to actually achieve any good. A bit like how sometimes it seems the police would rather hand out speeding tickets than investigate crimes. Law abiding middle class people tend to be easy to boss around.
Really care to give actual examples of the poor outcomes versus the alternative?
Mandatory reporting laws implemented under pressure from activist, overbearing, intrusive welfare agenices who operate under murky illiberal laws and secret courts cause people to fear going to the doctor if their child is hurt.
That’s the first (very major) negative outcome.
The other is that child services agencies have been so overwhelmed with specious reports that they don’t bother checking most anymore, where though vast majority of professionals ignore 99% of what they are supposed to report, those that do report in accordance with the letter of the law have overwhelmed the serivces:
In order to cope with this influx of reports, some child protection departments have increased the threshold or level of seriousness of reports that give rise to an investigation. For example, in 2010 in New South Wales the threshold for child maltreatment changed from risk of harm to risk of significant harm.
Here are some of the NSW governments “signs of abuse” that if seen require reporting:
- social or geographic isolation of the child, young person or family, including lack of access to extended family [live on a farm, you're on the list]
- child not adequately supervised for their age [subjective]
- extended stays at school, public places, other homes [unless you work late, then it's not abuse, otherwise it is]
- leaving the child without appropriate supervision [subjective]
- withholding physical contact or stimulation for prolonged periods (whatever the hell that means)
- has unrealistic expectations of the child [subjective]
- dislocations, sprains, twisting [got active boys? be careful]
- multiple injuries or bruises [got active boys? be careful]
- [parent]fears injuring their child [wtf]
- [parent]uses excessive discipline [subjective]
- using inappropriate physical or social isolation as punishment [aka grounding - subjective]
The problem is, once one has kids and meets other parents the definition of the subjective items and what is “acceptable” is wildly different from one person to another, from parent to parent, to doctor, nurse or teacher to the social worker who comes into your home because your kid has an unexplainable scratch and his teacher (though they won’t tell you who it was who made the complaint) has decided to report you.
Once somebody has been reported for something stupid, the word gets out and decreases the level of trust people have in doctors, teachers, etc – another negative outcome.
So back to Hockey, wherein some idiot troublemaker posing as a “reporter”, with the intention of a “gotcha”, questioned Hockey on Abbott’s comment saying that Abbot said “it would be too hard to repeal the carbon tax”.
Did this fool think he was dealing with little Billy “how deep can my nose go” Shorten?
A cynical observer such as myself would say they are looking for soft targets to fill their quota rather than trying to actually achieve any good.
Nothing cynical about it. When was the last time a blackfella’s kid was taken out of one of the hovels they live in? The twelth of Never would be my guess.
Gab!! Where on earth did you find those slippers? Cracked me up over my lunch.
They might provide PP with an excuse to discuss the continuing and inventive tradition of Roman and Greek hermes. His knowledge of ancient traditions is extensive and does add value to our varied deliberations, imo.
btw, I watched the Da Vinci Code completely alone, the only viewer, in a forlorn British and seedy seaside town. It was a terrible film, but quite spooky in that context.
When was the last time a blackfella’s kid was taken out of one of the hovels they live in? The twelth of Never would be my guess.
That’s where popular prejudice runs into hard reality. Indigenous (A/TSI) children are almost 10 times more likely to be placed in care than non-Aboriginal children.
It’s very simple. Abbott said last week he would not accept any vote from Thomson.
Gillard et al thought it clever to put Mr Integrity to the test.
They failed. Abbott won.
Suicide Boy says he came up with the idea all by himself.
Also at that link, one of the most quaint and rare parliamentary customs. When you raise a point of order during a division, conventionally you cover your head. Joe Hockey does so at 0.33.
A cynical observer such as myself would say they are looking for soft targets to fill their quota rather than trying to actually achieve any good.
That was also the general consensus at a dinner where we were given the story about our friends junkie sister who was ignored but our benign middle class friends had just had a door knock because their kids were playing out the front under “inappropriate supervision” (it was theorised that the complaint was made by neighbours across the road who they had a long running dispute with).
That’s where popular prejudice runs into hard reality. Indigenous (A/TSI) children are almost 10 times more likely to be placed in care than non-Aboriginal children.
C’mon… Why should facts and empirical reality be allowed to distract from a Catellaxetard’s typically hysterical rant about reverse racism?
Which reminds me, as I am now being re-identified (in jest I hope, JC): what is all of this ‘sock-puppet’ identity stuff from PP about stalwart people like Gab?
Les, you missed some Mk50, um, excitement, this morning in the Abusive Speech thread. It’s hard to explain in detail without exposing the blog to defamation again.
However, are they removed from the camps completely or just given to someone who is slightly less inebriated who lives next door?
About 70% of care cases are preferred placements – either with a relative, in community or another indigenous carer. 30% are non-preferred or the standard out of home care options.
Gab, there are a few explanations but the simplest one is that with all the movement about the chamber during a division, a man covering his head (usually with a sheet of paper) is more easily seen by the Speaker. More arcanely, the practice was adopted from the House of Commons where a member may make a point of order sitting and wearing a hat during a division.
Does that mean they are actually placed or is it just conjecture?
Sorry my original clarification seems to have been eaten by a browser refresh:
it isn’t 10 times more likely, indigenous kids subject to abuse/neglect are placed in care at almost 10 times the rate of non-indigenous kids. AIHW has fact sheets for general population & A/TSI figures for abuse & neglect reports.
I can only imagine what 49 said…. I assume he was even more drama queenish and more obsessed with the particulars of male homosexual intercourse than usual?
Did he make liberal use of italics, underlining and bold?
Catallaxy’s own David Marr – luvvie Peter Patton – voted for Kevin Rudd in 2007, preferenced the Greens in 2010 (the fact that Bob Brown is a fellow homo was pure coincidence, I’m sure), praised lesbian Penny Wong here a few weeks ago and now touts a “good looking” King’s Old Boy as the future of the Liberal Party.
7.30 on ABC last night had a story about an aboriginal town in total dysfunction; a previous mission town that in the 70′s was just beginning to disintegrate, but in full mode now. There was general agreement among dwellers and bureaucrats that penetrative child sexual abuse of children as young as five was rife, unsupervised children were abandonned to their fate, drunkeness prevailed and buildings had all been totally trashed. More money needed, was the mantra from the few sober ones left. Two burned-out health workers were interviewed, having left the area. They were suffering on-going depression from their experiences there.
The most notable thing to me was that they thought that NOTHING COULD BE DONE. So totally had these distressed and well-meaning people absorbed the litany of leftist hands-off policy that they were rendered powerless to suggest how to intervene.
It was pretty clear that the whole so-called ‘community’ should be removed and separated from each other so that normal community standards and legal requirements of the wider society could be brought to bear on each and every member; not the convulsive ‘normative’ standards of that group.
This was no ‘aboriginal’ culture. This was a concentration camp for children.
Greens Leader Christine Milne said Mr Abbott’s behaviour today demonstrated that he could not be regarded as a responsible candidate for the prime ministership.
What a toe rag. He showed more integrity in those two minutes than she ever has.
IT: your position on community nurses visits today was exactly like mine (“stop being paranoid”.)
You also agreed with me once last week (about gay icons in music) and congratulated me on showing signs of masculinity on Saturday. (Even though I have talked about boutique beers before.)
I’m not sure which of us should be more distressed.
Greens Leader Christine Milne said Mr Abbott’s behaviour today demonstrated that he could not be regarded as a responsible candidate for the prime ministership.
at the end of which no reporter asked her any quesrions.
Chris Kenny notices that Pauline Gillard has resurrected traditional Labor hatred for non-whites:
This is a sad year for Australian politics. First we had the Prime Minister’s office – no less – directly involved in sparking a race-based protest, resulting in violent scenes that saw police brought in to help Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott escape an angry mob. Then we saw Ms Gillard and her Treasurer deliberately foment a modern version of class warfare by attacking the nation’s mining magnates, and fuelling an “us versus them” mentality that would have been more at home in the 1890s.
And now, even worse, we have Labor MPs and union leaders unleashing a xenophobic campaign against foreign workers. Senator Doug Cameron has railed against the government’s Enterprise Migration Agreements because they involve “marching Chinese workers” in to take jobs from Australians.
– luvvie Peter Patton – voted for Kevin Rudd in 2007, preferenced the Greens in 2010
Patton..
I can understand someone making a serious error and voting for the little turd in 07. That’s forgivable in some way that only a Catholic could understand.
However is the rest fucking true? You preferenced the fucking slime in 2010?
“At 5.2% abv, it has a rich aroma of fruity esters with a slight hint of citrus and has a warm finish
on the palate. It is also slightly more bitter than other Coopers ales.”
That sounds almost manly. Well done.
Next week we will talk about filling out a betting slip.
Ah yes and yet another “Sorry Day” in the making I would think.
Too damn bad. Just bite this particular bullet and do something positive for those kids.
I suspect the world has moved on a bit from ‘sorry’, given what is happening in remoter aboriginal communities right now, well-documented and illegal. I’m sorry. I’m certainly sorry – poor fellow, my country, indeed.
Get together an aboriginal task-force led by Noel Pearson (he might be willing) or Mal Brough to assist with the ‘transfer’ (a better word than ‘removal’) of the population to dispersed living situations elsewhere, for the sake of the children.
Or just bloody DO IT. Fait accompli. Life experience shows it is easier to ask for forgiveness (should it be required), than permission.
.. the aboriginal kids stuff, and no-one doing anything about it, and lefties wittering on about rights etc. Any wittering lefty should be invited to leave their kids there overnight, without supervision. That might bring it home to them.
Long-term, Fairfax is in the process of becoming a digital business, which is risky and challenging (thus the 90 per cent fall in the share price since 2007)
This week she has been very critical of the decline in circulation at Fairfax, which means no one has told her that that’s actually the plan
WTF? alan kohlon brings teh stoopid – massive share price collapses, declining readership, all part the braindead brilliant fauxfax plans for domestic meeja domination…
So totally had these distressed and well-meaning people absorbed the litany of leftist hands-off policy that they were rendered powerless to suggest how to intervene.
Well if those dumb ass ideologues starting thinking about this issue in relation to human developmental dynamics they might begin to realise that rants about rights have little to do with improving the plight of aboriginal children. Theyare condemning these children to a life that deprives them of the full developmental opportunities available to human beings in Australia. Having them live in these communities is an incredibly stupid and cruel idea. A couple of weeks ago I was tinkering with the idea that if I wanted to attack this nonsense my best approach would be to pit their concerns about “aboriginal culture(which is stereotyping every single aborigine!) and self determination(which in my world is an oxymoron) against the known realities of what is the best environment in which to raise children. So which is more important, aboriginal children or aboriginal culture?
I think IT understands that your jeans are always tastefully pressed & you would never sport anything so gauche as creased denims which would detract from the casual chic of your Armani espradilles.
Check the first chart, despite “notifications” going through the roof from 2000 – 2010 (150,000-350,000!) substantiations after investigation having been dropping.
In 2008 there was 350,000 reports which triggered 162,000 investigations into 208,000 children. Of that only 54,000 reports were substantiated, of that only about 8000 children were placed on “orders” that year
208,000 children investigated ~8000 put “on orders”.
Are you fucking kidding me. Alan Kohler said that? What a mindless freaking Gump he is.
Alan, you immortal buffoon. There was no plan for the firm to lose 90% of it’s stock price and nearly all their readership pertaining to the dailies.
Alan you dope, they are in asset sale mode because the banks have basically told them to reduce debt and they have a euro bond issue that will mature with no hope of rolling it over.
Australia is paying the price for hugging the coast and lapping up the easy life in the South and East. Nobody wants to go west where the jobs are and pioneer new communities and (crazy thought) build new cities (even a crim like Bugsy Siegel had more get up and go creating Las Vegas in the middle of the bleeding desert!)
Last 4 Corners showed how the makeshift FIFO solution wasn’t really working alienating the locals and distorting the local economy. The Libs every now then talk about developing the north and building dams to create a new food bowl. But nothing happens. Are we really the second raters that Donald Horne said we are?
Latest update on convicted felon, Soros-funded Brett Kimberlin’s cyberwar and lawfare in the States against bloggers ( on both sides of the political divide ) he ‘takes issue’ with.
I think IT understands that your jeans are always tastefully pressed & you would never sport anything so gauche as creased denims which would detract from the casual chic of your Armani espradilles.
Why thankyou, Bado. I must say that sounds like the perfect look on St Barts for me next March as I was thinking of the warddrobe combination.
Nobody wants to go west where the jobs are and pioneer new communities and (crazy thought) build new cities
People will go there and work – just not Australians.
I say we should let anyone in the country who is willing and able to work in areas like the Pilbara. Maybe a 10 year remote residency and employment requirement before citizenship and/or permanent right of residence is granted.
That story is really quite ugly. I also think that things will get pretty ugly when the Kenyan loses and they try to mug President Romney and his supporters.
Pervasive bias
Psychology is not alone in facing these problems. In a now-famous paper2, John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist currently at Stanford School of Medicine in California argued that “most published research findings are false”, according to statistical logic. In a survey of 4,600 studies from across the sciences, Daniele Fanelli, a social scientist at the University of Edinburgh, UK, found that the proportion of positive results rose by more than 22% between 1990 and 2007 (ref. 3). Psychology and psychiatry, according to other work by Fanelli4, are the worst offenders: they are five times more likely to report a positive result than are the space sciences, which are at the other end of the spectrum (see ‘Accentuate the positive’).
A couple of weeks ago I was tinkering with the idea that if I wanted to attack this nonsense my best approach would be to pit their concerns about “aboriginal culture(which is stereotyping every single aborigine!) and self determination(which in my world is an oxymoron) against the known realities of what is the best environment in which to raise children.
Good luck with that. We saw the blowback Howard, Brough, et al got from the lefties fought off attempts based around the intention to reduce the level of child abuse.
No matter how noble your intentions and critical the need is, the story will be perverted.
“The real significance of the Kimberlin saga is that it suggests that in some quarters at least, the gloves are off. Anything goes. Anything.”
Are we really getting to see Chicago politics at its worst by the way the convicted domestic terrorist Kimberlin and his crew have been acting (using Soros / Hollywood money)?
That is one of the best ever scenes in any movie. it was masterful.
Trust me, there were true to life scenes like that in trading rooms particularly when there was an arsehole client coming through the sales desk and ripping off a trader’s profit for the day.
Psychology and psychiatry, according to other work by Fanelli4, are the worst offenders: they are five times more likely to report a positive result than are the space sciences, which are at the other end of the spectrum (see ‘Accentuate the positive’).
According to this article in the Australian migration to WA from outside Australia is already five times greater than interstate migration.
During the 12 months ending September last year, about 7000 more Australians moved to Western Australia than Western Australians moved to other parts of Australia.
In the same period, the number of net overseas migrants added to WA reached 35,000.
For every eastern-stater who actually makes it across the Nullarbor, there are five immigrants prepared to enter the west from across the Indian Ocean.
WA is already sourcing its workforce from overseas and now sections of the union movement want to put the stoppers on it.
Yep, so I’m glad I never bothered too much with that side of things(saved by my behaviorist inclined cynicism towards much of modern psychology). More interested in the molecular stuff. Just today came up with a long set of associations between GABA insufficiency and a wide range of neuropathologies, autism, Tourette’s, brain injury,MethA abuse, tinnitus. Very strange, for some reason across a wide range of neuropathologies GABA is down regulated. Can’t make sense of it. Sent email to a GABA dude in the USA so I hope he has some insight.
Where did antone mention race riots when the Kenyan suffers defeat in November?
Show us?
What I was actually thinking was an escalation of OWS crowd and their supporters. And by the way, the thugs who were found planning bombings in Washington State were white.
You need to get off the race shit for a while as you seem to obsess about it.
Water Minister Tony Burke has vowed he will press ahead with a plan to rescue the ailing Murray-Darling river system this year even if it means brushing aside states that refuse to sign up.
We’re going to suffer this “environmental flows” nonsense, like it or not.
FIFO workers live in camps cause there are no towns near the sites. Most would revolt if forced to live in a crappy overpriced town when you can live wherever you like.
New projects also build there own airfields to save on travel time, flying in jets twice a day.
The majority of commentators on FIFO dont know what they are talking about.
From some Legal Eagles on the Roy Hill EMA decision, that I was not aware of previously:
The project will be able to sponsor up to 1,715 workers for the three-year construction phase through the 457 visa program where Australians cannot be found to fill the positions. The EMA covers occupations such as electricians, mechanical fitters, scaffolders, and boilermakers.
‘As part of the EMA, Roy Hill is required to provide up to 2,000 training places for Australians (apprenticeships, traineeships and job readiness programs for indigenous Australians) and invest in excess of A$20 million in training Australians in a variety of programs.
Subcontractors will be able to sponsor workers by signing up to template labour agreements that will sit under the EMA.’
And this is supposed to be some sort of oppressive labour scheme ?
Dynamite stuff – the mole has just returned from ‘the hill’ and stated that the backbenchers are ‘sh*tting themselves’ about the fallout post 1 July (air tax).
Several scenarios raised, including a deferral, which would require the assistance of the libs.
Wow, didn’t 97% of Age cricket writers tell us the science was settled on this…
THE widely held belief that moisture in the air during humid conditions helps make a cricket ball swing has been clean bowled in a scientific study…
The researchers tested the theory using 3D laser scanners in an atmospheric chamber to measure the effect different humidity levels had on deliveries using balls which had been “aged” to simulate match conditions.
Instead, the researchers put forward their own theory that cloud cover provided the ideal environment for swing bowling because it reduced turbulence in the air caused by heating from sunlight.
7.30 on ABC last night had a story about an aboriginal town in total dysfunction; a previous mission town that in the 70′s was just beginning to disintegrate, but in full mode now.
Lizzie, did you notice a woman saying that the government should do something about it “because they put us out here”?
It’s revenue growth and followed by earnings like it was for google, Dot.
No divvy. What cashflow? DOOM, DOOM I TELLS YA!
That actually might be a reason why it is doomed. No debt – no Carl Icahn to step in, Zuck has too much power. Actually it looks like they have a bit of debt to me but perhaps it’s so very small it doesn’t matter. Sales is way less then cash pre IPO (thumbs down) Net income is a lot more then debt (thumbs up).
Government Motors thinks advertising on FB does bugger all for them and they’ve pulled out.
I would like to see Shagger Thomson be driven ‘self harm’ the way a former NSW Lib leader did. Give himself a paper cut and then call emergency services?
Or perhaps he might unsuccessfully hang himself with a tie in the ladies’ room?
We’re going to suffer this “environmental flows” nonsense, like it or not.
Tony Burke should give a speech next to a river if he is worried about environmental flows. If we could get him to recite “suffering succotash” a few times it’d flood.
On the other hand, Craig Thomson’s apparent resilience could be taken as a lesson in psychological strength for all of those people who are feeling depressed when the world seems to just be getting too much for them.
The only animal I have ever exterminated with a firearm was a Rabbit. In fact the little critters were so thick on the ground a good aim with the 12 gauge could take out two at once.
Rabbits are the original and largest environmental disaster in Australia. Worse than any other environmental issue that has occurred before or since they were introduced into the Mornington Peninsular by an idiot toff who thought they would make a nice addition to his estate. They should be summarily exterminated wherever found.
Thomson’s apparent resilience is because he is an accomplished BS artist with no conscience or morals. You will only see a sociopathic liar like him break down when all his power and status are removed, as surely will be the case. And even then, he’ll comfort himself in a layer of rage that everyone else is responsible for his predicament.
I would like to see Shagger Thomson be driven ‘self harm’ the way a former NSW Lib leader did. Give himself a paper cut and then call emergency services?
Are you making light of depression leading to self-harm and suicide? If so you a disgusting excuse for a human being
But evolution didn’t put them here, dumb-ass, people did
No, we put them here and we’re part of the evolutionary process. All of it is, you fucking moron. Even our technological advancement is part and parcel of evolution.
That’s the trouble with most of the leftwingers that visit the site. You’re all basically stupid and unable to think.
Calm down, Steve. No one wants Thomson to kill himself. We’d just like him to maybe feel some shame. Some bowel emptying in a public forum shame. Furthermore we hope his wife doesn’t catch herpes or some other terribly infectious disease from Craig’s depraved lifestyle.
Are you making light of depression leading to self-harm and suicide? If so you a disgusting excuse for a human being
I am making light of all those people including Thomson himself who were melodramatically claiming that his ‘hounding’ was going to drive him to suicide, then up he bounces to play silly buggers in Parliament.
Evolution is too slow to keep up with invading species.
No species is invading. They happened to have been helped on a boat and like other supported immigrants made well here. Raise a fucking glass to them, but don’t kill them because you think they’ve invaded. They haven’t invaded any place. If they can survive and prosper here they’re doing well.
And evolution is not slow, our evolution is actually accelerating if one includes technology and better use of resources.
Our GDP is accelerating.
And we don’t allow natural predators to stalk the land and take care of the rabbits.
Then introduce other species. Our flora and fauna is ratshit boring anyways.
Rabbits are a threat to agriculture.
I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t cull the little bastards, but don’t hate them for their success at making it in a far off land. That’s what people like Shane Wand and the Lying slapper do.
I don’t give a shit about Thompson, though as stated I would not want to him to be moved to self harm. Perhaps I quoted too much. The offensive part was: “driven ‘self harm’ the way a former NSW Lib leader did. Give himself a paper cut and then call emergency services? “. As if Brogden’s act was a bit of nothing. That’s why it was a question: Are you making light of depression leading to self-harm and suicide?
Sorry Gab but that won’t help you. Loss of GABA in the MGN remains a mystery but I did receive an excellent reply from the GABA dude which may help me sort this out. Remarkable chap, his work on demonstrating neurotransmitter diffusion from synapses is brilliant.
Don’t hold too much hope but you could try Ginkgo(do not take with aspirin or any blood thinners!). Also try some magnesium supplements. Mg is frequently used for aural trauma and prolonged supplementation is worth thinking about, especially given evidence of widespread insufficiency.
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von Boetticher A.
Ear, Nose and Throat Surgery, Lueneburg, Germany.
Tinnitus is a symptom frequently encountered by ear, nose, and throat practitioners. A causal treatment is rarely possible, and drug and nondrug treatment options are limited. One of the frequently prescribed treatments is Ginkgo biloba extract. Therefore, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trials of Ginkgo biloba extract preparations were searched for and reviewed systematically. There is evidence of efficacy for the standardized extract, EGb 761(®) (Dr Willmar Schwabe GmbH & Co KG Pharmaceuticals, Karlsruhe, Germany), in the treatment of tinnitus from three trials in patients in whom tinnitus was the primary complaint. Supportive evidence comes from a further five trials in patients with age-associated cognitive impairment or dementia in whom tinnitus was present as a concomitant symptom. As yet, the efficacy of other ginkgo preparations has not been proven, which does not necessarily indicate ineffectiveness, but may be due to flawed clinical trials. In conclusion, EGb 761(®), a standardized Ginkgo biloba extract, is an evidence-based treatment option in tinnitus.
PMCID: PMC3157487 PMID: 21857784 [PubMe
1. Int Tinnitus J. 2010;16(2):168-73.
Phase 2 study examining magnesium-dependent tinnitus.
Cevette M, Barrs D, Patel A, Conroy K, Sydlowski S, Nelson B, Stepanek J.
Background: Recent studies in noise-induced and idiopathic sensorineural hearing loss have suggested that magnesium supplementation may lessen both hearing loss and the severity of tinnitus in patients. Further epidemiological evidence indicates that all age groups of Americans fall short of the recommended daily allowance for magnesium by 100 mg daily. Purpose: The purpose of this study was to examine any potential benefit in lessening the severity of tinnitus in patients taking supplemental magnesium. Research Design: The study was a single-arm, open-label, before-and-after study of oral magnesium (532 mg per day) in 26 patients for 3 months. Tinnitus severity was evaluated and recorded daily by the patient using the Tinnitus Distress Rating (TDR) scale of 0 (no tinnitus) to 10 (worst possible tinnitus). The Tinnitus Handicap Inventory (THI) was administered before and at the end of the study, and scores were converted to the grades of the 5-item Tinnitus Severity Scale (TSS). The purpose of this phase 2 study was to investigate whether the treatment was effective at all, and, as such, a placebo control was not performed. All data were collected at Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona, between March 6 and December 10, 2008. Study Sample: Patients with moderate to very severe tinnitus (TDR score of 3 through 8). Intervention: Daily magnesium supplementation, 532 mg; patient completion of the THI; and daily self-report of TDR. Data Collection and Analysis: The main outcome measures were mean TDR scale scores and THI scores as converted to TSS grades. The primary analysis was done on the basis of intention to treat. Results: Twenty-six patients were enrolled; 19 completed the study. The extent of handicap, as measured by THI/TSS, for subjects with slight or greater impairment was significantly decreased (P=.03). Patients who ranked slight or greater on the THI/TSS before intervention showed a significant decrease in the severity of their tinnitus at post-testing (P=.008). Conclusion:The results suggest that magnesium may have a beneficial effect on perception of tinnitus-related handicap when scored with the THI.
PMID: 22249877 [PubMed - in process]
JC, you should stick to what you know (not sure what that is).
Invasive species
An invasive species is a species occurring, as a result of human activities, beyond its accepted normal distribution and which threatens valued environmental, agricultural or other social resources by the damage it causes.
Of course feel free to make up your own definition
And we’d be helping them survive too as their genetic pool is very narrow most likely caused by the previous glacials that left perhaps a family to interbreed from what I read.
Raising them here would, over time widen the gene pool.
I’ve already identified what I was ‘making light’ of, you hysteric. I don’t know how else to assist you. You might not give a toss about Shagger Thomson but the barb was directed at Shagger Thomson.
Thanks jtfsoon. A bit of a timing problem there. I posted my response before I saw your answer. I must learn to ignore the moronic responses from JC and dot. I agree with you about Thompson – his “self-harm” pseudo threat itself is fairly offensive.
I call for an open borders animal policy and a ban on European immigration.
IT
This will send you batshit crazy. I yelled at the dude.
My family recently hired a young straight of the boat Greek kid at the family bus. Nice kid and all. He’s there with them for a short time as he’s a dietician by trade and wants to move into that area eventually with certification and English proficiency etc..
He has a peculiar pedigree and i would imagine like a lot of Greeks. His parents moved back to Greece and because his ma was an Greek extraction Aussie born citizen he’s was entitled to automatic citizenship.
Anyways I got to talking to him and he seems very politicized. He was telling me he was joining the Greens and would vote for them! He’s way not interested in the ALP even.
The fucker hasn’t been off the boat for 3 months and he’s straight to the Greens.
So your theory and mine looks like it needs to be carried out by the Libs. Ban all Euroweenie immigration. Even pretend Aussie citizens.
Hah. The poor man’s Malcolm Tucker that Jules brought over to be her chief of staff/pitbull journo-abuser (for those not of the Love Media persuasion, that is) came in on the same kind of visa that she is now “furious” about when used in a mining situation by Gina Rinehart.
And invasive species is another way of referring to success.
And why stop at animals ( rabbit, cats, cane toads) let’s not discriminate.
How about plants, insects, viruses and fishes.
If the Cane toads can avoid the fire ants and carp in amongst the rubber vine without contracting a cross between avian flu/foot n mouth/hendra.
We have a great asset, may cane toad exports be the next BOOM for Oz.
(Bloody Chinese will probably beat us to it)
JC, i recon your just playing round with this but fair dink, Fiji disease cost as the best type of sugar cane.
We need to keep fire blite out, citrus canker(too late) ,invasive plants…..
I’d never thought about the possibility that ‘proven’ research results (in any field) might be shown to be shonky years later. I don’t know if it was you, or somebody else, who alerted me to a book (or article), full of scientists who had realized later in life that all their earlier experimental results were wrong. Creepy stuff. Either way, whenever I read somebody whose qualifications are PhD (Psychology) banging on about social stuff in Psychology journals – a la that Haidt fraud – I reach for my revolver
What’s that disease that effects bananas? We should import that – once our own crops are vanquished, we can start getting the cheap bananas from overseas, and stop overpaying (especially after the cyclones we get every few years).
I don’t know if it was you, or somebody else, who alerted me to a book (or article), full of scientists who had realized later in life that all their earlier experimental results were wrong. Creepy stuff
Peter,
Common, it is why years ago I stated that for the most part I only reference studies less than a decade old. This is a good strategy for medical research but obviously in other fields there are classics that one should always read. There is no easy answer to this problem. In an age when so many are claiming big breakthroughs and when the research on research clearly indicates unacceptably high error rates, we should treat every new finding as suspect.
The majority of research is falsified over time. People like to think that cutting edge research is all logic and experiment. Guff. It is a lot of thrashing about in the dark hoping to stumble upon a door leading to light. So today I stumbled upon a GABA door but could not open it until a GABA dude gave me the key a few hours ago. Neuro types always neglect GABA but as the email stated GABA synapses constitute 45% of all synapse in the CNS but GABA neurons only constitute 10% of the total. So the loss of a few GABA neurons is much more significant than the loss of many glutamate neurons. There are even studies indicating that a single GABA neuron can entrain thousands of pyramidal neurons.
Yeah, how come the fire blight ravaged New Zealand apple orchards can produce much higher yielding crops of better quality than their Aussie cousins? And at a lower price, and have an export market, which inexplicably fire blight free Aussie orchardists never managed?
How much of the stuff have we really “kept out” Seriously.
We’re losing the battle, I admit, through massive underfunding of AQIS. The NBN (redundant in ten years) loot spent on protecting our unique agricultural advantages of being geographically isolated to provide envious, disease restricted countries with that will be hungry for produce that we grow in abundance.
And no-one can tell me the currant scare in pollinating bees (believed to be imported )is a good thing.
Yeah, how come the fire blight ravaged New Zealand apple orchards can produce much higher yielding crops of better quality than their Aussie cousins? And at a lower price, and have an export market, which inexplicably fire blight free Aussie orchardists never managed?
I’m not calling BS on that but can you please show me .
OK, so now we have a piece from Ewart, first out of the door please Abbott when you get in, on how terrible all of the name-calling in Parliament is. No MSM analysis of what is really going on. If there is ‘public hostility’ and ‘bitterness’ out in the street, then it is perhaps worth asking why people are so upset with their CURRENT government.
This is a disgraceful government with a disgraceful mainstream media. We need to say it constantly, louder and clearer and bring more people in to say it.
Oh Gawd, not the Tanya piece on its all sexism etc.
Go away, you silly bitch.
Mal Brough says there was no outrage in MSM, nor in Blogs (on 7.30 right now).
Yes Liz but I was pleased to see he was pushing the same line as myself: children first, culture second(see my earlier comments). The subtext is the same as mine too: abandon the remote communities idea. Bloody stupid idea.
Methinks I might try my luck with the angle I was working on a few weeks ago …. .
Larry Pickering’s a hoot. His tongue’s firmly in his cheek on this one, the old stirrer.
BARACK AND JULIA:
I’m just an ordinary Aussie bloke who has been studying body language for half a century.
Now, I may be wrong, but if Julia isn’t having it off with Barack, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle.
Good luck to them if they are. It has no moral overtone for me.
Google image “Obama Gillard” and you will see the affection, way beyond the diplomatic, they both have for each other. Just opportunistic photography you say? Well, consider this:
Julia always drags her Gold Coast spiv, Tim, to official functions overseas. He waves in royal fashion, sporting a stupid grin, when boarding the PM’s plane.
But lately, when an international function is to be attended by both Barack and Julia, Julia now leaves Tim home and Barack now leaves Michelle home.
Yep, John, Nuggett Coombes’ Rousseauian fantasy did aboriginal people no service whatsoever.
These ‘communities’ need to be disbanded, removed, transferred etc. Choose your verb. They are merely nightmare environments for women and children, children particularly. Also, hopeless environments for testosterone-fuelled young men.
There are no real ‘elders’, no culture, no significant traditions or memories left. Let it go.
Mal Brough is a lovely human being. I said to the Ape that if I wasn’t busy I would marry him. He replied that Mal’s wife is hot too. High praise from us both.
Geez on offhand remark about shooting rabbits circles around to bananas again?
I don’t know why people get up in arms about banana protectionism which costs them about 20 bucks a year, and they don’t say zip about car industry protectionism that costs them about 5-10k per car, and much more than that if the value of the car goes up. A bit of perspective people.
What I find really amusing and almost makes me want to spew is the fact that LinkedIn is still trading at multiples of 950+ and poor old FB is down to a PE of 60.
Good to see you. I was worried that you had been banned or moderated for your outburst this morning.
What you wrote was wiped before I could read it, but by all accounts it was quite an embarrassing display for all concerned, and for you in particular of course.
The words “drama queen” were used to describe your performance. [Sigh. Is it too much to ask that everyone keep calm. You have no idea what sort of spam this attracts. Sinc]
I am sure what you wrote was most illuminating of your views and your, uh, mindset on certain issues and I’m sorry I missed it.
I hope you have calmed down a bit since your antics this morning. But it’s good to have you back.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House said President Barack Obama misspoke on Tuesday when he referred to a “Polish death camp” while honoring a Polish war hero.
The president’s remark had drawn immediate complaints from Poles who said Obama should have called it a “German death camp in Nazi-occupied Poland,” to distinguish the perpetrators from the location. Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski called it a matter of “ignorance and incompetence.”
Obama made the comment while awarding the Medal of Freedom to Jan Karski, a resistance fighter against the Nazi occupation of Poland during World War II. Karski died in 2000.
What I find really amusing and almost makes me want to spew is the fact that LinkedIn is still trading at multiples of 950+ and poor old FB is down to a PE of 60.
It’s a travesty.
Dude, who the fuck knows what’s going on. I have this website with a algorithm which is fucking outstanding in giving over bought/ oversold signals. At 25, 20 and 15 Facefuckbook is an outstanding trade I reckon. Not an investment, but a trade. It would be great to see it down there and then see the shorts getting their faces ripped off South beach style.
Go easy on Steve, I’m tutoring him. His constant questions about “where does semen go” are annoying but I believe we are moving in a righteous direction.
i tend to doubt that MK / PP would get a look in on any forum apart from here, so Professor Davidson is a kind and tolerant person letting those dude(s) express themselves on line about stuff they would probably never be able to say face to face but only under cover of a screen name.
Sinclair: I assumed you would delete it when you saw it. But honest to God, Mk50 has form on this, and the level of rebuke he cops seems disproportionately mild for the legal trouble he potentially attracts.
It was Jason who was the first to point that out. Hard to see how he was wrong.
Huh ha. I never saw it, but all I’ve seen you commenting on it all day. You seem excited.
I assume it was equally as slanderous as his Marr’s comments attacking Gina about her family interactions, like he’s personally plugged in to the intimate goings on.
You leftwing shitheads fucking disgust me at times. It appeared from the various reports that Gina is tight with the money but nowhere near as tight as made out. If a kid lives in New York as hers does and is complaining she would like a cook, I’m not sure how hard done by they are.
If the kids rolled around with hundred’s of millions, Marr and mimi-the-ironing-lady would be out there talking up a storm on how the country needs da gift and death tax using them as exhibit A. However being tighter then that, Marr and the cohort of ugly gargoyles attack her for not giving them enough.
Fisk is right. You lot mimi, pollute and lower the conversation to the lowest form and there is no need to ever discuss anything with you. Hopefully with the advent of the Finkelstien laws the lying slapper introduces we can use them to put a stop to most of the crap being tossed about for at least a decade.
Woolfe
Chat on ABC Brisbane last night about FIFO and how it kills the towns near the mines.
Idiots hadn’t heard of FBT which is what killed mining towns.
I certainly don’t think 49 should be banned. Sure, he talks about (gay) sex a lot, as does Patton for that matter, but Steve talks about smutty stuff a lot too.
I’m not calling BS on that but can you please show me
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 7:31 pm
A comparative document I happen to have at hand is an old Hassells paper that is about ten years old now, so the actual figures would have changed around a fair bit. As a bonus it is online. Anyway, on page 81 there is a yield comparison chart has the 1999 yield per ha of NZ at 46.1 compared with Australia 15.6
The paper has NZ as the world’s second most efficient producer behind Austria. We do OK, but are rubbish compared to NZ.
The Australian industry currently ranks twelfth on production efficiency and eleventh on overall competitiveness according to the World Apple Review (2000) which analyses industry performance for some twenty-seven countries worldwide. Notably, the Australian industry performance was significantly behind key Southern Hemisphere competitors New Zealand, Chile, South Africa and Argentina. At the time of data compilation for the World Apple Review, Australia lagged in terms of best practice on planting density, adoption of new varieties, orchard yield and infrastructure and inputs.
I would hope in the last ten years we have lifted our game. A good sign is that you hardly see delicious varieties in the supermarket anymore, but plenty of gala and pink lady, which of course export oriented NZ moved to much more quickly.
Anyway the point is that while we do not want fireblight if it can be avoided as it would increase the cost of production, it would not be the end of the world, as the actual end of the world that already has fireblight still manages to do very well. The quarantine ban allows our producers to get away with being less efficient than their cousins across the Tasman, and reduces the welfare of our consumers.
So why do you care care, Stevie? Surely you’d like us all destroyed? Guess if you didn’t have the Cat you’d be lost and have to suffer the insufferability of Crikey and such, or lordy, lordy, back to your own blog.
Or are you some sort of political Salvationist, after our souls in the denizens of darkness?
the level of rebuke he cops seems disproportionately mild
Are you complaining about restrictions on your ability to make an idiot of yourself here? Sinc has been very generous and has risked legal retribution considering you are mentally underage.
Victor Davis Hanson smacks another one over the fence:
The psyche of Germany
In other words, it is as illogical as it is common for the wayward debtor to blame the thrifty creditor for his dilemma. The Germans now are in the impossible situation of being told they did something wrong by doing things mostly right. They retire too late and caused others to retire too early; they saved too much money so others had to borrow too much; they built too many things that others wanted; they acted too much like parents and so made others too much like children.
Right now the continent’s psychological problem is not that southern Europeans cannot pay the northerners back, but that they are often arguing that they should not have to pay them, as if those who lent are more to blame than those who borrowed. The Germans rightly know that if they were just to write off the debt, such magnanimity would only lead to the same disaster in another five years, as the southern Mediterraneans cited such largess as proof that the Germans were guilty all along of mercantilism and therefore finally evened up with their moral betters. For Germans, this serial blackmail is of course an impossible situation. Would you wish to be lectured by your poorer brother-in-law on why he should not have to pay your $1,000 loan back, as he critiqued your oh-so-conventional workaholic habits?
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What KIND of parent would have their ‘BABY ‘ out in the cold in a pram at 12 o’clock at night ??
One that’s too young to realise…?
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I worked in the ‘hospitality industry’ many years ago as a bar attendant. I laugh really when being a worker in a pub is refered to as ” hospitality” Most times there is not to much hospitality in a pub.
Yes, you would wonder why they would have a baby out until that hour, but it is nothing new to some parents. I don’t agree with it, but then some leave their children at home by themselves.
Some have a strange idea to parenthood.
Parents can’t take a kid in a pram rugged up with them….they must go to bed when the kid does.
Asks this article. I don’t think he’s endorsing government spending like this seems to be implying here, but as I’ve said before, economic growth and GDP that is made up of government spending isn’t growth nor real economic activity because growth and activity have to come from the private sector.
I think the argument he’s making is that that while it may ‘reduce economic activity’ on the books and may do things like send the stock market’s head spinning, he’s not making it an endorsement of more spending.
This week I am walking in German cities along the Rhine that were nearly leveled in 1945.
Not long ago I visited Detroit, which was booming in 1945. The latter now looks like its own homegrown B-24s bombed it yesterday, the former as if they had been untouched in the war that Germans started.
Ponder those interchanged fates, and why and how these respective American and German cities got to where they were in 1945, and then again to where they are now.
“On a visit to the Cayman Islands, PM Resident Contrarian Glenn Harlan Reynolds [Instapundit] discovered the ideal way to deal with the destructive, invasive lionfish plaguing the area: Eat them. It turns out that this solution is under way in other parts of the world too. Here are a few more invaders that are surprisingly delicious.”
For Germans, this serial blackmail is of course an impossible situation.
Surely no more impossible than it is for the Club Med countries lol.
“Angela Merkel proposes that ClubMed consumers with no money should stop spending money they don’t have, and use this imaginary money instead to pay the taxes she insists they must pay before any stimulus will be supplied in order to help the sort of growth with which they can then pay more taxes, which they must do before there is any spendthrift making or consuming of goods that would help their economies to grow…which of course they will, but only if they keep doing the tax lederhosen-slapping dance before any of that decadent retail rock’n’roll buying bop gets people up and grooving.”
Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman has attacked the government’s austerity policy as “deeply destructive”.
Speaking on Radio 4′s Today programme, he said the coalition’s plan was “failing dismally”. Instead of cutting spending the government should be increasing it by 2% of GDP, he added
“It is deeply destructive to pursue austerity in a depression,” said Krugman. “Give me a stronger economy and I’ll turn into a fiscal hawk. But not now”….
He said the UK had now entered a depression with almost 30% of unemployed people having been out of work for 52 weeks or more, compared with 9.5% in 2008.
On Europe, Krugman advised the Irish to vote against the fiscal compact, which will involve tighter, EU-imposed budget controls, in a referendum on Thursday. “European currency union was a mistake since the day the Maastricht treaty was signed,” he said.
Steve, our lesson plan for tomorrow is for you to forget about economics – except for maybe home economics. You must also renounce Krugman. He’s the Flannery of that particular discipline.
Poor old Mumble, still bagging all the dog turds on his lawn with his bare hands. Ugly ugly but someone has to do it.
Still looking for a Liars party leader to take them to victory.
No, it’s because Smith would at least stand a chance of presenting a reassuring, adult face to voters, which is what they desperately want from this government.
Color me surprised they’re back skulking around 2009 levels.
May 30 (Bloomberg) — Economic confidence in the euro area declined more than economists forecast in May to the lowest in 2 1/2 years after inconclusive Greek elections raised the specter of a euro breakup and Spain struggled to shore up its banks.
An index of executive and consumer sentiment in the 17- nation euro area fell to 90.6 from a revised 92.9 in April, the European Commission in Brussels said today. That’s the lowest since October 2009 and below the 91.9 forecast by economists, according to the median of 28 estimates in a Bloomberg survey.
Fisk is right. You lot mimi, pollute and lower the conversation to the lowest form and there is no need to ever discuss anything with you. Hopefully with the advent of the Finkelstien laws the lying slapper introduces we can use them to put a stop to most of the crap being tossed about for at least a decade.
JC: the implementation of the Fisk Doctrine (banning leftwing speech for a period of ten years) is becoming increasingly urgent, as leftist ideals have served only to whiteant our basic freedoms, with disastrous consequences.
In time, I think the decision to introduce the Fisk Doctrine in Australia will be revered in a manner similar to the way the Americans admire their Bill of Rights.
mk50 made blatantly racist statements. Everyone needs to just accept that and move on. Why people defend him is incomprehensible.
No, only Leftists make racist remarks. You must stop pretending that anyone else is racist but Leftists. And, I’m afraid you might well fall within the 10-year speech ban the way you are going.
The introduction of the Fisk Doctrine would be far and away the most important free speech legislation in this country’s history – and possibly the world’s, who would hopefully rush to emulate it. It would be the new keystone of liberty in Australia.
Well, actually Hungary got there first more or less. PM Orban has done a very good job of cracking down on the Leftist media. But much more remains to be done.
Really – given that the first bout of Hendra virus happened in Hendra, hardly the leafiest suburb in Brisbane and therefore far from the most bat infested part of the city, doesn’t this suggest that preventing Hendra virus outbreaks by culling flying foxes is not really likely to work?
I think it suggests that horses can just be unlucky. (And people shouldn’t put feed under trees).
ROBERT Mugabe (has become) a champion of tourism for Zimbabwe . . . he has received the unlikely honour from the UN. “We will spare no effort in delivering to you and the whole global tourism family a uniquely African experience,” he said . . . One tweet said: “Next up, Bashar al-Assad as UN ambassador for childcare, and Kim Jong-un as ambassador for free speech”.
Obama: ‘I know more about Jews than any President in history.’
In the meeting, Obama reportedly boasted about his knowledge of Judaism, telling the leaders that he thinks he knows more “about Judaism” than all past presidents. He said he gained this knowledge of Judaism from reading.
Jim Hoft:
For the record… Presidents James Madison and John Quincy Adams both spoke Hebrew.
sfb, Yeah i see your point.
The culling (local council spraying) of mosquitoes has done absolutely nothing for the spread of Ross River fever,
Denque fever and Barmah Forest virus.
People are just unlucky they breathe out CO2 that attract them, I guess.
People just shouldn’t breathe, problem solved.
BTW Bats will fly up to 80km in a night. Your argument about distance from leafy suburbs is inane.
Amid polls showing that his efforts to regulate religious institutions have hurt his image among Catholics, President Barack Obama has begun touting his early ties to the church.
“My first job as a community organizer was with Catholic churches who taught me the power of kindness and commitment to others in neighborhoods,” he declared at a Hollywood fundraiser May 23.
“When I was a young community organizer, I was working with Catholic churches and they taught me that no government program can make as much of a difference as kindness and commitment on the part of neighbors and friends,” he said at a Colorado fundraiser earlier that day…
Obama’s emphasis on his Catholic ties come as polls show a sharp drop in his support among swing-voting Catholics in battleground states after his February imposition of regulations on churches.
An April poll from Pew reported that Obama’s approval among non-Hispanic Catholics dropped from 45 percent in March to 37 percent in April, while support for Romney rose from 51 percent to 57 percent. That shift could swing the decision in critical swing-states, including Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Radiau – given that flying foxes can range 80 km a night, I would guess that no one has any real idea how far afield from Brisbane, and in what numbers, you would have to cull colonies to have an effect on Brisbane horses.
Judging by twitter, it took all of three days for the left to transform from oh so “sophisticated” comsmopolitan, high minded “intellectuals” into “Fuck of it’s Full” bogans.
I’ve never seen anything like it. The rhetoric of the left on twitter would be just at home in a One Nation party room. And it’s not just on the mining issue. Check this comment from an oh-so PC leftist female:
Important to back #fairfaxstrike. Two women editors in group. Many gays and ethnics high up is what makes Age/SMH great #auspol
Rape in marriage is of course awful but what about retrospective laws?
“We’re gonna decide NOW that BACK THEN it wasn’t part of the common law even though NO ONE WAS TRIED FOR THAT back then…”
What is the angle of this? Is someone just trying to get brownie points as a solicitor?
Forget about rape. Don’t get emotional. Think about what the court has done. It has reversed and backdated to when it believes common law defences were extinguished. This is the offensive part of this.
Now apply this to the entire criminal code. This is a dangerous precedent.
If the law was wrong there is little we can do unless we openly approve of retrospective legislation.
“The federal government is seeking billions in Chinese investment to open up land for farming in northern Australia in a plan designed to help feed China’s 1.3 billion citizens”
Stuff me – the same people who get teary eyed about Lock the Gate and mining and CSG companies buying farms are partnering with China – to build farms ?
The same people who locked the Cape York aborigines out of development with the Wild Rivers legislation to appease the Socialist Peoples Soviets of Inner Urban Greentopia are planning to commercialise the North as a – what ? – Chinese state agricultural colony ??
Who says China per se needs this ? Why not other importing nations like Japan, Korea or Taiwan ? What about private enterprise instead of China Inc ??
And how long has this been going on ?
“Trade and Competitiveness Minister Craig Emerson initiated a joint study with the Chinese Government last May to examine the policy changes needed to facilitate large-scale investment by Chinese agricultural interests in undeveloped land in northern Australia.”
FMD – no wonder the Chinese are telling us to piss the US Marines out of the Territory !
TREASURY has blown the whistle on the Gillard Government’s clean energy slush – sorry, finance – fund. It has made it official.
Most if not all of the $10 billion of taxpayer money will be flushed straight down the toilet.
Further, the money will be wasted to absolutely no point, as we get further confirmation that China has no intention of seriously slowing the growth, far less actually cutting, its own emissions of carbon dioxide.
The increases in China’s CO2 emissions over the next decade will completely dwarf any cuts in our emissions as a consequence of the Gillard-(Bob)Brown-(Christine)Milne carbon tax.
Indeed, the increases would completely dwarf our cuts even if we reduced our emissions all the way to zero.
Believe me – I am not opposed to the concept in principal, whoever champions it.
I am concerned that a Cabinet Minister has been working for a year to deliver a privileged position to sovereign foreign entities with no consultation with the electorate.
Emo qualifies himself:
“There is no proposal for ‘buying up the farm’, importing overseas labour and dedicating the production to Chinese consumption,” Dr Emerson said. “It is designed to lift Australian food production for world markets”.
There may not be any clauses in the initial studies, but China Inc will want to be a part of anything involving their money. And why is it limited to China Inc anyway ?
I would like to think Emo has a whole lot of ‘splaining to do to Senate oversight committees, but I am simply not confident that the Senate has enough committee time available to shine bright lights on the innumerable dubious practices and plans of the Comrades.
I am pretty sure the Coalition just wants development, not favoured nation carve outs.
The shelf stacking corridor power walker has a view from the lower north shore apparently.
Lol. I think the lunatic is from North West Sydney though, but you can’t tell as much these days, as he’s bought an expensive app which translates Eastwoodlish to regular English.
Sometimes the app breaks down though and that horrendous diction comes out. Obviously it isn’t foolproof with fool being the operative word when it’s about him.
On that thread Homer is on at Troppo, Sanchez the pool cleaner and now professor of neuroscience at MIT comes up with his own diagnosis.
Sancho
There’s emerging evidence that a lack of empathy can simply be neurological, but it’s fraught because then you get into the possibility of labeling children psychopaths before they’re fully developed.
He does a great deal of his research while sucking up leaves during his pool run.
“Perhaps China is the only one willing to put up the money?”
Indeed – but who would know ? They’ve been working on this for a year and the AFR has only just now been backgrounded. Probably so Emo can get it out there before the new Labor backbench xenophobia committee kills the chance to get the Chinese agricultural embeds into the Emo Agro Scheme.
My grouse is – where is the transparency; why does it have to be Chinese sovereign money – and no other ?; and what about private enterprise ?
Well – given who this government is – the preference to partner with a large, socialist, one party state over the private sector or even democratic governments in market economies is obvious I suppose.
Wonder if they will build a statue to Emo at the entrance to the colony ?
“The federal government is seeking billions in Chinese investment to open up land for farming in northern Australia in a plan designed to help feed China’s 1.3 billion citizens”
The massive borrowing required will be sourced through a shady intermediary hired by Emerson possibly named Tirath Khemlani.
These is indeed the occult question of whether this is Emo’s attempt to join Conroy and the NBN up there in the pantheon of bottomless black taxpayer underwritten holes requiring endless consultancies to be filled by Mates, Maates, Maaates ?!!
The demented leftwing zombie brain is addicted to self-apprandising “nation-building” schemes, provided they thought of it themselves, it hasn’t been costed properly and it is to be financed by other people’s money. This is looking like a front-running candidate for the final comedy that brings the curtain down on the worst government in Australian history. Whitlam and R.F.X. Connor could only dream of what this rabble is doing.
The Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) has received funding from the tobacco industry, but yesterday claimed that the donations did not influence the think tank’s campaign against Federal Government plain-packaging legislation for cigarettes. Scott McIntyre, a spokesman for British American Tobacco Australia, confirmed that the company was a member of the institute, which requires the firm to contribute to the IPA’s funding under the terms of their membership. (SMH 31may2012 Page 3).
And on a note that should concern anyone south of the border:
Australia’s most popular beer for decades, VB, has lost its crown, with interloper XXXX Gold from Queensland now officially the nation’s biggest-selling brew.
The Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) has received funding from the tobacco industry, but yesterday claimed that the donations did not influence the think tank’s campaign against Federal Government plain-packaging legislation for cigarettes.
Bad PR, but they survive on donations, so they should be able to accept funding from whoever they like.
steve
given what you know about libertarians, why would you think that before receiving this funding they would have been inclined to support plain packaging legislation?
What accounts for the local rise in boozy appreciation is the booming boutique beer and ale industry.
“Traditional full-strength lagers such as VB, Carlton and Tooheys are losing market share,” IBISWorld manager Karen Dobie said. “(Aussies) favor cider and premium, imported, low-carbohydrate and craft beer.”
Victoria Bitter (or just plain, old VB, mate), which now accounts for only 17 percent of the market (down from 22 percent) is perceived as too “Bogan.”
The $120 million micro-brewery and craft beer industries will more than triple in the next five years, according to the research.
Some of the big breweries own boutique brands, as well: Foster’s own Matilda Bay which churns out Fat Yak, Bohemian and Redback. But independent micro-breweries are also on the way up, such as Little World Beverages, which brews Little Creatures, and James Boag’s.
What accounts for the local rise in boozy appreciation is the booming boutique beer and ale industry.
“Traditional full-strength lagers such as VB, Carlton and Tooheys are losing market share,” IBISWorld manager Karen Dobie said. “(Aussies) favor cider and premium, imported, low-carbohydrate and craft beer.”
Victoria Bitter (or just plain, old VB, mate), which now accounts for only 17 percent of the market (down from 22 percent) is perceived as too “Bogan.”
The $120 million micro-brewery and craft beer industries will more than triple in the next five years, according to the research.
Some of the big breweries own boutique brands, as well: Foster’s own Matilda Bay which churns out Fat Yak, Bohemian and Redback. But independent micro-breweries are also on the way up, such as Little World Beverages, which brews Little Creatures, and James Boag’s.
Guys, if you want to get rid of Flying Rats, put half a dozen mousetraps in your trees, tied to a piece of string that prevents them getting away.
FF is trapped, lets out a squeal and all his mates piss off. They give your backyard quite a wide berth too.
Let the ugly, shit covered, disease ridden things go in the morning.
Or just chuck the whole thing in a 44 of water. That will also shut the fuckers up.
Australian beer is horrible stuff
Who drinks domestic beer?
Bloody Euroboys.
I’ll grant you that VB is the beer they sell in hell, but XXXX Bitter and Emu Bitter are the beers you get given in heaven. On tap, delivered by authentic Kalgoorlie Skimpies.
Carlton Mid-Strength is the big sleeper in my local on the beach in Mexico. It’s what you drink after you’ve turned your palate into an expensive sewer drinking Heineken.
Anybody who donates to the IPA (or any other group) presumably does so because it’s either in their interests, or because they see some perceived value in the donation. If the IPA takes a stand against regulation of a particular industry, it’s logical that that industry would want to support it.
If the suggestion is that IPA only took up the cause because of the donations, then 1) this is absurd, given their position of free markets; and 2) Even if they did, so what? If you disagree with their position, address their arguments – simply dismissing their position because of who supports it is just lazy thinking (and therefore typical of the Left)
The whole demonisation of donations from tobacco industry is a joke anyway. They used to donate to both political parties – then when ALP started getting nasty, ALP donations naturally dried up.
Not wanting the Libs to have an unfair advantage, they started accusing Libs of opposing the policy merely because of the donations – much as people are now implying about IPA. The Libs, being the usual soft-cocks they are in matters like this caved, and said they wouldn’t accept donations – whilst still opposing the policies.
Coopers, James Squire and Little Creatures are all great Australian beer brands. You couldn’t pay me enough to drink VB, XXXX or a lot of the other mainstream beers.
You guys have to try Moretti beer, especially the dark one. It’s about the best beer I’ve ever tasted.
I used to work with the nephew of the dude that owned the brewery and happened to be my boss. This was before it was sold out to the bigger player who I can’t recall. The stupid fucker was constantly being asked by his uncle to go over and run it for him but preferred to work in banking. He got me onto it, especially the dark brew. It’s like angels on the tip of the tongue.
I always find it interesting that beer is one alcoholic drink that every country in the world can make reasonably well. I have my doubts that you can find any nation that doesn’t have at least one quite drinkable beer made locally.
I agree fleeced. If the libs weren’t such softcocks they would go back and take the money while stitching up the Liars party by making sure union members voted on political donations. starve the fuckers of cash, so they can’t hire student union slobs.
Good piece by Walter Russell Mead on the global collapse of warmenism:
Remember when meetings to debate and negotiate an international carbon treaty were big news? The Copenhagen Summit was hailed as the largest assembly of world leaders ever to gather for one event; when it fizzled in waves of shame and confusion, the green movement was shocked and dismayed.
There was a lot of happy talk, of course. The world remained committed to the treaty, more progress would be made, targets were agreed, blah blah blah.
Then there was the meeting in Cancun: fewer reporters, fewer first rank politicians, fewer hopes. That meeting too ended in disarray on the core issues, and then, too, desperate greens scrambling to maintain some kind of policy relevance tried to spin the meeting as a victory for the “process”. Nobody was paying much attention; the world’s news organizations sharply cut their budgets for green summitry.
By the time there was another meeting, this time in Durban, South Africa, the global green agenda had slithered even farther down the news ladder. Most people simply didn’t notice that diplomats and greens had gathered to discuss The Fate of The World last December. Once again, there was no real progress to report.
Now the latest meeting in this increasingly anti-climactic series has concluded, this time in Bonn. Yet again, much was said and nothing was done — and yet again even fewer reporters and officials paid attention to this increasingly irrelevant bureaucratic mess.
But it’s pretty clear to me what’s happening here. They are trying to set it up that if Mitt Romney gets elected, if Mitt Romney gets elected, there will never be a Democratic president again in the history of the United States. The future is just, this is the way it’s going to be. There’ll never be a Democratic president in our lifetime again. And when I say in our lifetime, I’m talking about long, long, long, long, long time.
I’ve been scratching the side of my head causing minor bleed since you posted the earlier comment and I’m still left without an answer. I better stop scratching.
Remember when meetings to debate and negotiate an international carbon treaty were big news? The Copenhagen Summit was hailed as the largest assembly of world leaders ever to gather for one event; when it fizzled in waves of shame and confusion, the green movement was shocked and dismayed.
Ah the Copey Summit. That’s the one Oztralia sent over 300 fucking delegates. What a international sized embarrassment that was for us. It made me cringe when I heard that. Rudd is a complete moron.
Humans have been making beer for at least 5,000 years, and most likely much longer. Some anthropologists have argued that it was a thirst for beer, rather than a hunger for bread, that led to the Neolithic Revolution (c. 9500–8000 B.C.E.), during which humans gradually abandoned a hunter-gatherer lifestyle in favor of sedentary farming. Beer eventually became a defining characteristic of human culture, much like wearing clothes.
Any periods in which the locals discovered beer before clothes were probably some of the most lively in pre-history.
Lots of really fantastic US microbrews out there. We don’t get many in Oz, sadly, so all we know about are the abysmally pissy Budweiser, Coors and Millers. The only decent mass-produced Yank beer is Sam Adams, as far as I’m concerned.
I had plenty of Yank microbrews of all kinds in China, and they’re good. My discerning American friends say that the microbrew industry in the States is huge, fragmented and diversified – which is a recipe for quality. Small operations run by passionate people = good product.
The Fisk doctrine makes a great deal of sense. There is no reason why Bolt ought to be taken to court for breaking leftwing rules while leftwingers can’t be taken to court fro breaking rightwing rules especially with the introduction of the Finkeltsien laws. Repeal the all the bolt like laws and replace them with rightwing ones. That’s all I’m suggesting. No biggie, right?
If implemented, the Fisk Doctrine will be a landmark piece of legislation that will be celebrated for posterity as a Gates of Vienna moment in Australian history – when we turned back the barbarians trying to destroy Australian liberty.
Long term I hope the Fisk Doctrine leads to segregation and the mass movement of people.
I see no reason why we can’t establish Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania as leftist only colonies and maintain the rest of Australia as a freedom loving bastion of righteosness.
Little Creatures is a great microbrewery, and there are some other decent microbreweries dotted about the country – but there are a handful of mediocre ones, too.
On the whole, our beer industry is a sea of mediocrity with a few bright spots.
There are no decent mass produced beers at all in Oz (I don’t really consider Coopers to be a mass-produced beer). There are a hundred different labels produced by the Big Two (Fosters and Lion Nathan) that all taste similarly one-dimensional, gassy and are boring as shit.
If implemented, the Fisk Doctrine will be a landmark piece of legislation
I can well imagine the screams. This is when calmness should be shown and quietly point out to our leftwing cousins that the Right is simply doing what they have been doing for decades.
It’s probably not the kind of thing voters will use to choose the leader of the free world.
But the Web was taking no shortage of presidential potshots Wednesday over Republican candidate Mitt Romney’s new mobile app, which embarrassingly misspelled “America.”
Banning leftism isn’t enough. All political speech should be banned. In fact, the practice of politics and political thought should be banned.
The government should be abolished.
All power should be vested in a triumvirate of Gina, Clive and Twiggy who can rule by decree in perpetuity for them and their heirs (or designates, given that Gina’s kids hate her). Gina and Twiggy despise each other so Clive will hold real power. This is a good thing.
The Triumvirate should be charged with digging as much shit out of the ground as possible, and putting it on a boat.
Of course, the triumvirate should free to strike deals with the Red Chinese as they see fit. Including selling such parts of Australia as are surplus to present requirements.
The Fisk Doctrine is fair and quirky in its simplicity too. As lefties like fairness what is more fair than repealing leftwing laws and replacing them with rightwing ones as everyone deserves to have a shot. It’s only fair, no?
The obvious omission in the Fisk Doctrine is: what will happen to those who fall afoul of the 10-year moratorium? This has yet to be decided conclusively, however the founder leans towards thorough psychiatric care utilizing the latest medical advances.
The first patient at the Fisk Mental Asylum will be Peter, who is in need of a 10-year course of treatment for Catholic Derangement Syndrome, a Leftist pathology.
The obvious omission in the Fisk Doctrine is: what will happen to those who fall afoul of the 10-year moratorium? This has yet to be decided conclusively, however the founder leans towards thorough psychiatric care utilizing the latest medical advances.
We could of course use James K’s knowledge in deciding which drugs could be administered safely to induce long term coma for the ‘patients’.
You can’t be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and an airline – it helps if you have some kind of a football team or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER.
The clueless dullard doesn’t realise that I can already gamble to my heart’s content on online poker etc. but the companies are registered overseas so Australia gets no cut.
He really is an ignoramus when it comes to technology etc. Clubs Australia, the corporate bookmakers and casion operators have obviously got to him.
In fact, for every lefty sent to NK, we would take 100 Norks in return. None from those in the NK defence/police forces mind, just the hard working villagers.
I’ve never played online poker in my life, but hundreds of thousands of Australians already do with foreign operators. Where’s Yobbo to explain what an idiot Abbott is?
Luckily the internet is impossible to police so Abbott can go whistle.
He really is an ignoramus when it comes to technology etc
Ah yes, who can forget:
TONY ABBOTT: Well, Kerry, I take your point: that if you want to drag me into a technical discussion here, I’m not gonna be very successful at it because I …
I would like to see the Fisk Doctrine address the problem of the destruction of Australian humour by the Green Left. OCO, it doesn’t help if we ban SfB; you just take away an endless, giving source of entertainment for the adults.
Repeat violators of the Fisk Doctrine should be chemically muted, and their limbs paralysed. If they continue to flaunt the law, their ability to communicate must be physically but humanely restrained using the latest medical technology.
Alternatively, they could be interned and treated for their condition.
Personally, I favour the clinical use of methylenedioxymethamphetamine to explore the genesis their destructive beliefs, and these can be addressed in therapy.
I’m sure I could get JamesK to administer a coma inducing agent to keep the little fucker in deep sleep for at least 2 decades. He’d be only too happy to.
A few days ago, one of the founders of Facebook, Eduardo Saverin, a native of Brazil, caused an uproar when it was made public that he had renounced his U.S. citizenship before that company´s IPO (he holds 4 percent of the shares).
Two Senators, Charles Schumer (D-NY) and Bob Casey (D-Pa), have introduced a bill retroactively aimed at Saverin and anyone who renounced U.S. citizenship in the last decade, imposing on them a 30 percent capital gains tax—on top of the existing exit tax. The “Ex-Patriot” Act (Expatriation Prevention By Abolishing Tax-Related Incentives For Offshore Tenancy) would also bar them from entering the country ever again. Republican leaders such as John Boehner joined the chorus, explaining that in his view what Saverin had done was already illegal. But if that was not the case and the new law was necessary, he added, he would “surely support it.”
Only an editorial in the Wall Street Journal that felt compelled to cover its back by expressing contempt for Saverin as an individual, a few Republican critics of the tax system and a small bunch of libertarians dared to defend the Brazilian, who now lives in Singapore. Saverin himself tried to explain that his decision was not motivated by the desire to reduce the tax bill but by his having set up camp in Singapore, his investment base.
Don’t even waste your time. Just put them all in a coma and stick’em in an oxygenated coffin like contraption for a decade or so. Out of sight out of mind.
But they’ll learn naught that way, JC. Send them to NK to further experience totalitarianism and perhaps, in time, they’ll learn the error of their ways.
Now you can drink what porn stars recommend.
“Ron de Jeremy Rum is best served neat, over ice or with your favourite mixer.”…….or in his case served bareback over a blonde or with his favorite racially mixed couple.
As an interim measure before the Fisk Doctrine is implemented, let’s bring in new admission standards for Aussie unis. Henceforth, no one will be admitted to uni unless they either (i) pay an upfront fee, in cash, equal to 150% of the final year’s fee for a boarder at King’s (indexed annually) or (ii) produce a certificate from Hancock Prospecting Pty Ltd certifying that the applicant has spent two (2) years residing and working full time at Hancock’s Pilbara tenements in a labourer’s role.
Further, no journalist is allowed to comment on matters relating to taxation, finance or social justice unless the journo can produce a similar certificate from Hancock Prospecting.
Further, no journalist is allowed to comment on matters relating to taxation, finance or social justice unless the journo can produce a similar certificate from Hancock Prospecting.
Your getting closer to the truth than you really know, Les. No freaking journalist should ever be employed unless they’ve had true to life working experience in the private sector. That ought to be a given. Think of Jessica Irvine why it would be a good idea.
As a long term online poker player who travels, I think this is not so simple. The banning works at the government level.
In France, I couldn’t play in real money games despite being able to in the UK and Morocco using my same laptop/login throughout. The US has some approved sites but since April last year, when they attacked the major sites, has had an exodus of online poker players to Canada and other more congenial places.
Basically the companies have the technology to limit access and do so at a government’s behest.
It just continues my plan to spend more time overseas.
We had our annual watching of the Eurovision finals party on Sunday. I’m betting those topless ladies are protesting against the song contest. Quite so/.
To summarise Gab, there is a lot of bitchiness resulting in protestations and members having to withdraw. It’s nothing spectacular but I get the feeling that both sides know an election is way off.
Abbott’s correct response should have been to note the hyposcrisy, but to make it clear he found it funny. His PC response is another reason he will be silenced under the Fisk Doctrine.
I know the religion of peace really is complex, but I really do need an expert to explain how this man has so thoroughly mis-understood doctrine of the Koran.
The final months of this inept government is going to be tedious and pathetic.
Labor has lived off the faux concern for the “near-suicidal” Shagger. Now the speaker is trying to control the house using tears for fallen comrades…
Deputy Speaker Anna Burke has invoked the memory of a deceased Labor MP who took his own life as she attempted to haul the House of Representatives into order during an unruly Question Time.
New York City plans to enact a far-reaching ban on the sale of large sodas and other sugary drinks at restaurants, movie theaters and street carts, in the most ambitious effort yet by the Bloomberg administration to combat rising obesity.
He also said he foresaw no adverse effect on local businesses, and he suggested that restaurants could simply charge more for smaller drinks if their sales were to drop.
Musing about the chance of becoming a senior minister or even prime minister, she was quoted as saying ‘‘I wouldn’t finish my career unsatisfied if that’s what life brought me. In fact, I’d cheerfully kill several hundred people to get that opportunity in the short term.’’
That’s funny. IT, the man at this blog who most enthusiastically blames the consumption of carbs as the source of all excess weight, is most enthusiastically against a measure to help reduce carb consumption.
I suspect that it will result in a substantial increase in consumption of diet sodas, which can still be sold in the large sizes. That would probably not be a bad outcome. I think. But I am not 100% sure if I endorse it.
That’s funny. IT, the man at this blog who most enthusiastically blames the consumption of carbs as the source of all excess weight, is most enthusiastically against a measure to help reduce carb consumption
This tragically just shows why you don’t get it.
I don’t like gambling, tobacco, anal sex or pot and I don’t want to ban them
Steve, that’s not the point. It’s all about the government dictating what people can and cannot eat through punitive measures. About changing behaviour through coercion.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t like being treated like a stupid child by a government. This interference in everyday life is appalling.
That’s funny. IT, the man at this blog who most enthusiastically blames the consumption of carbs as the source of all excess weight, is most enthusiastically against a measure to help reduce carb consumption.
Pay attention, Student Steve.
In NYC two dudes can now get married and celebrate by putting all sorts of objects in each others mouths but not a beverage over 16 ounces. This is not freedom.
Freedom is your friend Steve. It makes you an adult.
It’s not being banned. Its sale is being regulated in such a way as to attempt to reduce consumption. People will still be free to drink as much as they like, although it sounds like it might be a bit more expensive. And a bit more inconvenient.
Go seasteading and you can as much “freedom” as you like, dot. And supersized sodas.
But anyway – my reservation is that it will likely prove impossible to tell if it is having public health effect and just may not be worth the whinging it will encourage. On the other hand, people who don’t give a stuff about public health (libertarians) have pooh-ed pooh-ed (I’m never certain how to spell that – I should check with Mk50) increasing restrictions on cigarette sales on the same ground ever since they were introduced, yet the steadily decreasing consumption over years indicates that it has had an effect.
Drinking as much sugary drink is only acceptable to you if you start your own country and militarily defeat any nation that objects to your newfound independence.
Wow. What a power hungry distrubed Walter Mittie jerkoff you are.
You can’t legislate against stupid, you can however send leftists and wowsers to death camps. This break through has really gladdened my heart. We have much to look forward to.
Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?
Considering that the obesity crisis is a result of government stupidity, my first point of call would be to tell government to take a holiday involving sex and travel.
If you want to reduce the obesity rate then burn the food pyramid and admit you were wrong. Secondly remove all farm subsidies – thre is much evil here. Thirdly annihilate the nanny state that wraps kids and adults in cotton wool and prevents them from doing something as simple as playing in a park or riding a bike. Fourthly, a gentle public education campaign pointing out that carbs are evil but it’s your choice to be a fatty boom boom and we don’t care if you are or aren’t.
Fourthly, a gentle public education campaign pointing out that carbs are evil but it’s your choice to be a fatty boom boom and we don’t care if you are or aren’t.
Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?
I’m not a libertarian but I wonder if a libertarian would give a shit about interfering with other people’s dietary habits and weight. If someone chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle, then on their head let it be …
Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?
Obesity is directly caused by individual choices. Therefore you’re on perilous ground when you breezily talk about “reducing the rate” because what you really mean is “getting people to make different food choices.” You need to think hard about whether your goal is to eliminate it, or simply make people more aware of the risk.
Apparently the new law won’t apply to milkshakes or juices – just soft-drink. LOL… It’s the bubbles of nothing that make it really fattening! Even if it wasn’t a fascist move, it’s misguided BS.
Seriously: how many people do you think end up obese – not just overweight, but obese – because they have been following the government food pyramid?
Lots. Most, in fact. Diet habits changed significantly in the years after that silly pyramid (even though most people wouldn’t be explicitly following it.)
Of course, I don’t know how you would go about reversing that trend. Current eating habits are pretty ingrained.
Deputy Speaker Anna Burke has invoked the memory of a deceased Labor MP who took his own life as she attempted to haul the House of Representatives into order during an unruly Question Time.
…”I am just cautioning us all,” she said.
Ms Burke told the chamber Mr Wilton’s family were distressed at the current nature of the political debate.
LOL.
Stop criticising the government or we’ll commit suicide!
Ahahahahaha.
Nothing in the history of white nations compares to this sociopathic rabble.
Gambling should be restricted to bookies at the tracks of horses and dogs, the TAB for same, the Opera House lottery and two up in pubs and clubs on Saturday night or whenever they can get a ring going.
Barbers can keep a tote if they want, but only proper barbers with poles and strops. Unisex hairdressers and houses of hair removal staffed by Sharlenes and Shirtlifters can do whatever they do but leave the punt alone.
I miss Steve the greek barber in Boundary St West End. Saturday morning haircut with a constant stream of old Greeks studying the form, racing across to the TAB, drinking coffee and smoking like burning tyre factories. A real sense of community. Strategically located about three feet below street level of the Melbourne Street bus stop. great views.
Of the 149 food recalls co-ordinated by Food Standards Australia New Zealand since 2010, 62 per cent were for food made in Australia. The remaining 38 per cent were imports.
The failed food reports show soft cheeses – such as camembert and gorgonzola from France, Italy, Spain and Greece – have been refused entry because of Australia’s strict E. coli regulations.
Cheese importer Will Studd said more cheese was being stopped at the border because new and inexperienced importers were not familiar with Australia’s tough standards. ”I noticed there was a standard Greek fetta on the failed food list,” Mr Studd said. ”It’s pretty sad when that happens.”
Looks to me that the problem isn’t cheap foods but stupid legislation.
Australian seafood is ridiculously overpriced and the arseholes at the government bureau have made sure that it’s no longer worthwhile catching your own.
Tanya Plibersek refuses to apologise for offensive posters of Tony Abbott in her electorate office.
The mere sight of this over promoted secretary irritates me. She has nothing to say, nothing to offer and the only reason she is where is because of her plumbing. What really disgust me about her is the way she frames comments in that sanctimonious holier than thou tone she puts on. How can they possibly stomach her in caucus? Of course thank Emily List for this intellectual pipsqueak.
The aggressors were the blacks guys – I’m sorry but their skin is black, deal with it – so the soldiers were supposed to do what? Turn the other cheek?
Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?
I currently live in a country where I very much have to fend for myself in regards to my welfare. I have full private medical health insurance through an international insurer. I am a low-risk profile individual – standard BMI, non-smoker etc. I don’t pay what I consider to be a huge amount for health insurance.
A guy I know who’s my age, pretty much identical profile to me apart from the fact that he’s 5 foot 7 and weighs 128kgs. Yes, he looks like a human bowling ball. He got insurance through the same company as I do. He looked at the insurance brochure which included a table which details the premiums people of different age categories pay, and thought the premium for people his age was pretty cheap, so he went for it. The fat little prick got one hell of a shock after the insurance company got back to him and said hey sorry fatso but because of your obscene lardiness, your premium’s triple that of someone in a healthy weight range.
That’s the libertarian answer to reducing rates of obesity, Stevo.
Following that Politico scoop on Mitt Romney’s massive campaign war chest, David Axelrod poos his pants – posts most hilariously hyprocritical Tweet in the history of Tweets:
This election aside, anyone who cares about our democracy should be appalled by this.
Me being an ex reef fisherman (waaay back), that’s music to my ears.
I’m not much of a fish eater ( coral trout, maori wrasse and red throat served up every second night as a kid ) I’m more of a exoskeletal sea creature eater (crab, prawn,lobster, bugs).
The thought of Basa fillets ( shit fed Vietnamese catfish ) is vomit inducing.
What a beat up the Plibersek story is. Where were the “posters” in her office anyway? Somewhere a member of the public would normally be standing?
It is satire, created (I understand) from a website that let people complete the words. Big deal that a Labor staffer would think Abbott is uncomfortable with gays and sexist. He was the goose who said he feels “threatened” by gays on national TV.
As for him being sexist – he hardly discouraged the image amongst lefty types by talking about a woman’s “gift” of virginity.
Even as unfair insults, these are small change compared to the venom heaped upon Gillard by the likes of Alan Jones, right wing talk back radio, and of course, this blog.
We have some of the best fish in Australia. Silver Perch, Eeel Tailed Catfish, Yabbies, Southern Rock Lobster, Kingfish, Southern Bluefin Tuna, Sea Run Trout (Tas)…
Other than red salmon I see little need to buy imports for myself. I like what I can catch or buy.
It is satire, created (I understand) from a website that let people complete the words. Big deal that a Labor staffer would think Abbott is uncomfortable with gays and sexist. He was the goose who said he feels “threatened” by gays on national TV.
I note you ignore the boats. Is this because Gillard’s ALP revanchism ala the WAP sending reffos to Malaysia where pogroms are common is too embarrassing for you?
In 1986, at the age of 25, he was imprisoned for less than three years of a nine year sentence for conspiracy to import narcotics. At the time he was a heroin user. He recovered from his addiction through a Salvation Army program.[1] He told the ABC in April 2007 that his criminal past made him more determined to do a good job.[2]
Coutts-Trotter is married to Tanya Plibersek, a Labor MP and the federal Minister for Health.
Me too. prefer crustaceans except for balmain bugs – yerck! – but do love NZ sole (which you cannot get in Melb!) and king George Whiting from Albany in WA.
I don’t hold anything against Plibersek’s husband for the narcotics charge. He didn’t do anything Keith Richards and the Beatles didn’t do a hundred times.
Relatedly, I noticed that Pasquale Barbaro got 30 years minimum for importing ecstasy.
That is just incredibly stupid and excessive – especially considering perhaps one-sixth (or more?) of the people in the court-room at the time do E recreationally.
Yesterday Mr Coutts-Trotter was targeted by Mr Hazzard, who suggested the appointment was a political fix.
“The question really is, how is it, that someone who had a nine-year jail sentence for drug importation and who has no educational qualifications ends up as the director-general of public eduction in NSW? And the answer might well be that he’s a Labor mate,” Mr Hazzard said.
However, Mr Coutts-Trotter told smh.com.au that he has been appointed purely on merit.
We certainly do. I am just about to cook up a storm of seafood marinara with fresh fettuccine, including lots of prawns. With crusty bread and garlic olive oil, and a crispy salad. Yum.
Da Ape is hungry, and so am I.
Polite dinner party for us tomorrow night, so tonight is big feed up time. We’ve both been to the gym today too.
It’s funny that we used WA pilchards as bait and now they’re sold as gourmet sardines.
Of course Banana (that word again) fish are the natural food for Coral Trout. These not these.
White House press secretary Jay Carney uses a questioned Market Watch report about spending under Obama to claim he has been a “responsible steward” of the economy.
I’m pretty well-informed, I’ve been around the traps, inside-out, and upside down, I’m well educated, I’m a smart guy. You know all this well enough. The fact I am knowledgeable about public issues and persons is no surprise to you. The REAL question is how does faggy old CL know M C-T is an RC?
Right, a conversation needs to be had as to why so many ALP folk have different surnames to their spouse.
I recon it’s a deliberate ploy to avoid association.
Albo,Plibersek,Bligh,Butler,Arbib, Conroy…..
Dude, I used to think it was about being modern and all. You know, the metrosexual man and the fully liberated woman.
However so many of them get charged with criminal activity that it could actually be a sort of insurance policy to avoid being tarred with the same brush.
FFS, lets take a serious look at this. Plibs is married to a convicted heroin importer and she’s minister for health. Have you ever heard of anything more fucking absurdly ironic in your life.
walker needs at least 10% of the vote to break even against Demolition Party voter fraud. and with this election it could be as high as 15%, so theoretically it’s neck and neck… if you know what I mean.
FFS, lets take a serious look at this. Plibs is married to a convicted heroin importer and she’s minister for health. Have you ever heard of anything more fucking absurdly ironic in your life.
Soviet stooge Lee Rhiannon is the Greens spokeswoman for “democracy”.
Looks like Greens-preferencing Bob Brown disciple, Peter Patton – described memorably by Jason Soon as a “flaming old inner-city queer” – didn’t take Sinclair’s advice re medication.
walker needs at least 10% of the vote to break even against Demolition Party voter fraud. and with this election it could be as high as 15%, so theoretically it’s neck and neck… if you know what I mean.
Reince Priebus is the chairman of the Republican National Committee.
He is also a previous chair of the Republican Party of Wisconsin and got Walker elected in the first place.
The Dems aren’t gonna get away cheatring this one.
Al Turd Franken’s cheat in 2008 will not be repeated
CL, you’ve missed Peter’s theory that we knew each other in real life. Rather amusing, I thought. He manages to get things wrong in almost as bad a fashion as you.
It was at least entertaining when PP used to write about how he was stepping out for a night of drugs ‘n debauchery with other ageing Hall & Oates fans from the early 80s. They reminded me of poor old Vito and friends:
well, if he’s in the ‘moderation’ queue, I have these vague memories of a locum at my GP’s in Potts Point who was an utter sleaze. Doesn’t mean I approve of papists though!
“Rather than describe how deeply I care about Israel, I want to be blunt about how we got here,” Obama said, reminding his guests that he had so many Jewish friends in Chicago at the beginning of his political career that he was accused of being a puppet of the Israel lobby.
In the Senate, he said, his support for Israel’s qualitative military edge has been unwavering.
Obama added that people judged his support for Israel because of the differences between a center right government in Israel and center-left in the U.S. – because he pressed Netanyahu too hard in his belief that it was time to seize the moment and pursue peace initiative.
Obama also stressed he probably knows about Judaism more than any other president, because he read about it
LABOR has spent billions of dollars on grants in breach of its own rules and without doing enough to ensure value for money, the Auditor-General has found in another study critical of the way Canberra hands out cash.
More than two-thirds of federal spending programs went ahead without their guidelines being signed off as required by the standards introduced in the first months of the Rudd government.
More than two-thirds of grant guidelines were drafted without any reference to value for money and almost two-thirds did not stipulate a competitive process to decide who got the money.
From what I’ve seen in the US press, the Dems have pretty much resigned themselves to a loss in Wisconsin. They’re all like “whether we win or lose, what matters is November”, which I read as ‘we’re fairly certain we’re not going to win here’; as opposed to “once more unto the breach dear comrades once more” which would indicate they’re confident.
Nearly 225 years later, critics across the spectrum call the American political system dysfunctional, even pathological. What they don’t mention, though, is the role of the Constitution itself in generating the pathology.
Ignore, for discussion’s sake, the clauses that helped to entrench chattel slavery until it was eliminated by a brutal Civil War. Begin with the Senate and its assignment of equal voting power to California and Wyoming; Vermont and Texas; New York and North Dakota. Consider that, although a majority of Americans since World War II have registered opposition to the Electoral College, we will participate this year in yet another election that “battleground states” will dominate while the three largest states will be largely ignored.
Our vaunted system of “separation of powers” and “checks and balances” — a legacy of the founders’ mistrust of “factions” — means that we rarely have anything that can truly be described as a “government.”
More than two-thirds of federal spending programs went ahead without their guidelines being signed off …
More than two-thirds of grant guidelines were drafted without any reference to value for money and almost two-thirds did not stipulate a competitive process to decide who got the money.
Holy hell. Is it too much to ask that governments exhibit some basic competence?
In fact after Western Australia secedes, we plan to have chain-smoking slim-jim-eating honey badgers patrol the newly-reinforced and nuclear-power-electrified rabbit proof fence, to keep all the Eastern States reffos out.
James, it kind of is imbecilic how a president is elected – allegedly with a program to benefit the country – but also has to worry about the fate of his House colleagues just two years later. This is fine for ratcheting up expenditure (indeed, it drives the ratcheting up of expenditure) but it makes meaningful ensmallification of government – needed now as never before – almost impossible. In this sense, what the Founders envisaged regarding limited and constrained government is rendered not only impossible but actually antithetical to how the machinery works, in practice. Only the popularisation – and hence, electoral necessity – of limited government can alter this dynamic. And to achieve this requires that half of the population now on welfare to happily give it up for the greater good. Either that or the system crashes and burns and the polity is re-built, sans escalating ‘entitlements,’ from scratch. Maybe that’s what should have happened back in 2008.
Right, a conversation needs to be had as to why so many ALP folk have different surnames to their spouse.
I recon it’s a deliberate ploy to avoid association.
Albo,Plibersek,Bligh,Butler,Arbib, Conroy…..
Don’t forget, Craig Thompson, Gai Brodtmann (Mrs Uhlmann), and dozens of others.
The Labor party is now more like a sect or at best a class than a political party.
The road into a seat in parliament in Labor is always exactly the same now: Uni ratbag politics -> union ratbag politics (either as an advisor or lawyer to a union) -> marriage to someone else inside the “movement” then find a way to lever yourself into a seat in parliament though less than honourable means (the only way to do so in Labor) then once in, jobs for the wife / hubby, the in laws and the kids (seriously, even cursory digging turns up dozens of these relations, it’s sick).
So the reason for almost none of the newer technocrats taking their husbands name is that the “labor movement” is the most disgustingly nepotistic and incestuous organisation in Australia (seriously). Blood lines run thick, political marriages are the norm and it’d look a little obvious to the public that there’s something very wrong if you had Mr X (Senator), Mrs X (State MP), Ms X (union advisor), Mr Y (Fairfax reporter) and Mrs Y (union official) running around.
You don’t get it, Jazza. Twice a century, the infantile left gets control of the national treasury. Hundreds of billions of dollars of free money magically appears in our credit account that we can do what we like with. So it’s one big kids’ party for three years until the adults arrive home, punish the ring-leaders and have to clean up the disgusting mess.
James, it kind of is imbecilic how a president is elected
I agree Cl but the main problem is that America has been post-costitutional for 40 years.
The commerce clause has to redefined by the SCOTUS and made to mean what the Founder’s clearly intended as also the ridiculous interpretation of the right to privacy provision.
The Tea Party is in for the long haul.
Non-permanent ‘non-political-class’ GOP members of Congress/citizen legislators and the Senate will campaign to have less power.
They’ll be called out as ‘extremists’ by the liar-steves of the world.
I don’t think its a deliberate attempt to confuse, I think it is just a reflection of the strange way in which they see the world. These people don’t give a stuff about nepotism or marriage and family. Every person is an ‘individual’ who is therefore not attached, by definition, and so above any criticism. They shriek loud and clear if ever any comment is made about such relationships. They hold to the doctrine of separation of pillows. Only one they know.
But there is always, always financial shenanigans involving the public teat, or the union mammary. From their puerile student politics days, when they first get hold of the keys to the student union cookie-jar, it’s all they know – the defined-benefit parliamentary super is the prize, the end to which all the means leads.
If you want real lefty surname weirdness, go no further than Anna Bligh. She loathed her father (but kept his name on marrying Greg Withers but when they had children they were given the surname “Frances” – which was Bligh’s mother’s maiden name. The Bligh name was out because she considered her alcoholic father to be scum. (He was a troubled war veteran but that didn’t interest Anna). Withers was verboten because Bligh wanted to send a message that she was against patriarchy. So the solution was that her children would bear the surname of her grandfather. LOL.
The surname trend is interesting. There are a lot of factors at work here. For example, I know several women whose professional practice before marriage meant it made sense to retain their maiden names. Then there is the natural progression away from the effacement of women that used to be the rule – remember Mr and Mrs John Smith? There are even men taking their wives’ surnames nowadays.
A previous colleague of mine was an Australian man with a German name who married a Japanese woman. They had two children, and decided to use a Western first name and her Japanese surname for one, and a Japanese first name and his Western surname for the other.
Ms Gillard will support change to the marriage act when a focus group poll reaches a certain percentage point of approval. That’s where it’s at for that lot.
Da Ape has had quite a few powerful positions and we do lots of cozy pillow talk. No-one in their right mind would (or should) ever hire me anywhere near his ambit. I’ve changed my name on marriage; people need to know and I probably need to be reminded to be very discrete. Lately I’ve been termed ‘the trophy wife’, satisfactorily pigeonholed as not in the picture, and it’s best if people see it that way. His new PA caught sight of me in the car window and told him “She’s very beautiful”. Perceptions, you see – all she could possibly see was some blonde hair and a pair of sunglasses.
Sinclair, that Gans article was pathetic stuff; inner-city angst. The only reason children should not take a traditional patrilineal family name is if the family is seriously fractured in some way. Otherwise it is a clear signal of the loopy willingness of some parents to engage in experimentation with their kids headspace.
I read you latest blog threads after I went there looking for the lambert stoush for a good laugh.
The thread about free trade is pretty decent but I really don’t think you have your heart in it, as it seems to lack passion. It could be just an incorrect opinion I have, but there you go. However overall I’d give it a decent mark. C-
Anyways, I really want to get to this point you raised in the thread. That idiot you refer to says:
In the US median incomes have been nearly stagnant for three decades, and male incomes have been steadily declining.
Your argument was:
For some unknown reason, Davies has suddenly shifted from macroeconomic aggregates to inequality measures. Why he picks this, and not another equally important statistical category – like poverty levels, consumption levels, or the misery index – is unclear. Again, there is no context provided by Davies. No mention is made of the increase in benefits (effectively acting as pay increases), the shift from manufacturing to services that had been in progress since the 1950s, the greater competition from developing countries (to their enormous benefit), the increased premium to higher education, the decline in union numbers and influence, etc. No, it’s just more Big Shift reasoning.
As you know, this is perhaps the most important bit of crap in the entire leftwing armory of swill when they are attacking free market economics… but whad about Da US inaquality for the past 30 years. Here’s what you need to also add in your attempt to shoot this crap down.
Don’t obscure the fact that there actually was stagnant wages at the bottom for US workers. There actually is some kernel of truth to this. So don’t obfuscate like you normally do.
However instead of da inaquality there was actually a very significant move towards equality when one considers the number of people that arrived in the US from poor countries such as mexico. In other words their move and subsequent employment in the US actually reduced da inadaulity in the world.
Secondly and more importantly, ask these no hoper friends of yours on the left if they knew US aggregate total factor* income rose in the US during that period for the bottom 20% or so. It rose enormously in real terms despite the immigration shock of of perhaps 12 million illegals roughly constant number over the period), which in a nation with a 100 million workers is pretty fucking significant in the bottom 20%.
Just helping you out here.
* what the Americans refer to as total cost of a hire.
Kids want to share the same family name as their parents. It makes them feel like part of something.
The mrs and I aren’t married and the other day, teaching our boys their whole names (3 & 4) they asked with a little sadness why they, dad, grandma, grandpa, and great nanna are twostix but mum isn’t. Suddenly I find the topic of marriage on the front burner again.
People (who are invariably from boring stable middleclass homes themselves) who now want to play ill thought out trendy social engineering games with their kids are fucked in the head.
People (who are invariably from boring stable middleclass homes themselves) who now want to play ill thought out trendy social engineering games with their kids are fucked in the head.
Normally it would be a beta male in disguise pretending to have metrosexual slickness that’s involved in this stuff. It would be good to bring back the guillotine from time to time as a way of improving the gene pool.
Suddenly I find the topic of marriage on the front burner again.
Time for Wedding Bells, twostix? A great excuse for a good party time. You are right. Kids like to feel part of something whole and important, like a named family.
If young adults these days don’t give much of a hoot about the cultural, anthropological and biological history of “marriage” such that they think that of course same sex partners should be entitled to have a wedding, then one should hardly be surprised that they are willing to be innovative in terms of surnames for children, too.
The latter is much less culturally significant than the former, by the way, and you have to be pretty stupid to think that it is only young “beta males” who will negotiate about kid’s surnames now.
I tried to make two or three posts in this matrineality discussion and got a ‘your email address is not valid’ response. Essentially 3 of my posts were deleted.
Your posts were deleted because you’re an imbecile, Coz, not because you’ve been banned like you ought to be, you half wit.
You got the message:‘your email address is not valid’
… because you forgot to add the @ part in the address or left a space where you shouldn’t. Then, instead of back paging with the arrow, you must have gone forward and lost the entire thing.
And if you thought you were banned why are you even posting comments that you’re banned, you idiot.
Obviously I checked the email address for errors, there were none. I got better things to do and other places to go than people who can’t cope with challenges.
you mean the ones running around with chic’s hairdos?
How old r u Irving? Haven’t quite got over the loss of short back and sides in the 70′s yet? Or are you like CL, and have a 70 year old soul trapped in a body decades younger?
Time for Wedding Bells, twostix? A great excuse for a good party time. You are right. Kids like to feel part of something whole and important, like a named family.
It’s been a good run – 6 years but alas the times are a changing and now this mans better half (who just a few short years ago agreed on the needlessless of marriage) is now rejecting the ancient anti-marriage culture handed down to us and demanding, demanding! that we be wed.
Today we find out that two other mutual friends are having the same mini counter-revolutions.
And the last two paras echo what many here have been trying to explain to the likes of Steve, who challenged at 6:16pm “Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?”
Yet there are genuine costs induced by illnesses resulting from obesity, such as diabetes. And the government does spend billions of dollars – principally through Medicaid and Medicare – to treat them. Since Jones is being forced to pay for Smith’s medical care, goes the argument, Smith should be forced to stay fit and trim, lest he become a burden on Jones. And since he cannot be expected to do so on his own – owing to “obesogenic” factors and whatnot – he should be made to. Even through compulsory exercise, if that is what it takes.
Of course the coercionaries could leave Smith alone, if they simply left Jones alone too. But this solution never seems to occur to them, does it? And why should it? It would require a certain degree of humility and restraint. Besides, they already know the solution: In the event of any government failure, apply more government directly to the wound.
Coz, even strong matrilineal societies are mostly patrivirilocal (in various permutations and combinations) in their residence arrangements.
For the uninitiated, the lineal relationship goes from mother’s brother to sister’s son, but the child lives with the father’s people (technically non-related in a strict matrilineal society) until a mature age, when he goes to join his matrilineal group and take control of resources there. He brings his wife into this locality, although his and her biological children belong to her brother rather than to him; thus his biological children remove themselves to his wife’s locality at maturity and his inheritors, his sister’s children, move into his locality to join him, as he is their mother’s brother. The mother’s brother is thus a significant male other indeed to the sister’s son.
Such systems demonstrate that even if an attempt is made to trace matrilineal descent, the over-riding social impulse tends to be to allow men to keep control of and power over inherited resources. It is not given to women merely by dint of biological tracing of descent. Human societies developed with men in a dominant role; get used to it, Coz.
John H 30 May @2.52pm ‘Well if those dumb ass ideologues starting thinking about this issue in relation to human developmental dynamics they might begin to realise that rants about rights have little to do with improving the plight of aboriginal children.‘
I am surprised that Prof Fiona Stanley a long time researcher on child development, Australian of the Year, Director of Telethon Institute of Child Development and ABC Board Member has not spoken out about this heinous activity in a child’s development and the effect over generations of children [and of research]. Full stop.
‘ It may sound crazy, after this research career, to become a sort of mini-bureaucrat, but it set up my networks and databases all over Western Australia. I was very disappointed that I hadn’t got a research job, but in my two years there I met every midwife in Western Australia and I was able to revamp the entire midwives database, I was able to link it with all perinatal and infant deaths, I was able to actually start my research – and research infrastructure, if you like.’1977 The Long Path to Career Security
What a load of crap sfb. This is a grown-ups site – people who have born and bred children. You have no idea. Why don’t you fuck off to some adolescent playground. There’s a good boy…
God I love these currency markets finally. Short the euro, go to the gym, talk stuff over the web about the uselessness of the morons in the Liars party. Remind Stepford he’s an omega male who in an earlier life would have been destined for servitude. Then in the afternoon cover the position, wait for the Euroweenies to come in and bid it up and then short again.
The latter is much less culturally significant than the former, by the way, and you have to be pretty stupid to think that it is only young “beta males” who will negotiate about kid’s surnames now.
Of all the issues here Steve this is one that I actually expected you to make a slight defence of. I’m sure your kids have your last name.
But no, if the “young people” are doing it, (or what you can glean young people are doing from reading The Drum and The Age) you’re totally down with it.
Why? Because you’re midlife Steve and you’re, like, totally hip to the young people’s cause duuuude.
Big night tomorrow and in July too. However I think tomorrow evening our time will basically determine the course of the November election.
US payroll stats come out. If they are disappointing the Kenyan is cooked as I think it will be too late for him providing Romney understands the significance and mortally wounds him throughout June. Even if the numbers come out ok in the following months Romney will have built up the big momentum that won’t allow the Kenyan to recover.
I think the election for Romney could be decided tomorrow evening.
Euler Hermes, which is majority owned by the German insurer Allianz, is acting on fears that the stricken eurozone member may be forced out of the single currency, limiting the ability of Greek importers to pay their bills.
“Euler Hermes has decided no longer to cover deliveries to Greece for the foreseeable future,” a spokesman said.
The company said existing contracts would be honoured but no new Greek business would be underwritten.
Well coz, I don’t bring religion into it. Not my bag.
Hatred and contempt of women is despicable, I agree. But trying to remake the world in the image of something that it patently is not, as in 70′s domineering and separatist feminism and the current flow-on from it in naming nonsense and such – that is inviting the combination of a bashed head against a brick wall.
There are better ways to recognise and civilise the world for women, which is not an impossible project, in fact, it is quite achievable. These ways come from the wisdom of women’s lived experiences and from recognizing how different we are from men, as well as pointing out our advantages and similarities. The starting point is to agree that both men and women historically have much that they could be bitter about, and to move on from that without descending into bile at men or complete rejection of social conventions that have proven their utility.
“Yes,” their governments all reply in unison, though, judging by the latest polls, many of their electorates are less than sure. According to Pew Research, 40pc of Italians want to return to the lira, while, in France and Spain, more people now think the euro has been bad than good.
That’s a huge turnaround from just two years ago. Support for the single currency is fast ebbing away. To the extent that it still exists at all, it seems wholly dependent on fear of what might happen if and when things fall apart.
Monetary union has become like an inoperable tumour; few now embrace it with any enthusiasm, but it seems impossible to remove for fear of the potentially fatal consequences.
Events are fast moving beyond the control of policymakers. As Spain’s elder statesman, Felipe Gonzalez, has said, “we’re in a situration of total emergency, the worst crisis we have ever lived through”. Policy makers are like rabbits in the headlights, apparently unequal to the scale of the banking crisis in their midst. If something else doesn’t derail the single currency first, it will soon fall to popular insurgency.
I saw that Pew stuff earlier. however I think it’s bit of a follower in the sense that if the economy was looking better in the EU the weenies would all be talking the Euro up. So it’s a bad indicator I think. It’s how people will vote that’s important, I reckon.
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If anyone feels deliriously happy at the moment for some reason, there’s Society General’s Albert Edwards to send you on suicide watch. This fucker even gets me shitting in my dacks at times. His macro stuff sends me into a fetal position.
ALBERT EDWARDS: HAHAHAHA, The Bulls Aren’t Laughing Anymore, The Stock Market Will Collapse And All Hope Will Be Lost
Public-employee unions in Wisconsin have experienced a dramatic drop in membership—by more than half for the second-biggest union—since a law championed by Republican Gov. Scott Walker sharply curtailed their ability to bargain over wages and working conditions.
Now with Mr. Walker facing a recall vote Tuesday, voters will decide whether his policies in the centrist state should continue—or whether they have gone too far.
The election could mark a pivot point for organized labor.
This is a grown-ups site – people who have born and bred children. You have no idea. Why don’t you fuck off to some adolescent playground. There’s a good boy…
My gosh, people are making idiots of themselves tonight. More so than usual, I mean.
First it was Irving telling coz she was a beta male whose women who be off to service the alphas (like Irving and Lazlo I assume.)
Now it’s me being a non breeding adolescent, even when it was only yesterday I referred to my first born in 2000.
Look you ignorant twit – I like it when women take the husband’s name, and the kids do too. (Even though I doubt it’s going to corrode society if parents do something else but provide a stable and happy home for their kids.) I am against gay marriage, but actually think the rot set in when de facto heterosexual partnering was given the same legal status as marriage (and becoming a parent via IVF and artificial insemination became completely unremarkable as well, leading to the idea that anyone can “manufacture” a biological family.)
I’m actually more conservatively inclined than anyone here who prattles on about “beta males” but has been in a de facto relationship.
What I am showing up is that the criticisms made here on socio/political/sexual grounds (such as “it’s only beta males who would agree to their kids not having their name; all “progessive” are beta males with girly hair, if not actually gay) are just ludicrously out of touch with any proper understanding of cultural change, and really an embarrassing advertisement for social conservatism.
The Euro is doomed as a project. It is as inherently unsound as Emissions Trading, and derives from the same elites. But Europe is becoming globally irrelevant. It will be like discussing Scottish independence in a couple of decades.
It’s not a matter of if, but when (subject of entertaining debate around here nonetheless)
and Satan actually spoke about Australia back in May.
ALBERT EDWARDS: This Is The Biggest Bubble In Recent History, And It’s Heading For The Mother Of All Hard Landings.
So what’s Edwards’ big complaint with Australia?
Because Australia has gone so long without a recession, everyone has been convinced that it’s managed by geniuses, and that the economy there is solved. This is classic bubble thinking.
But Australia has telltale signs of a bubble.
5 of the world’s most expensive cities are now in Australia (Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane, and Perth).
Not one Australian city falls into traditional measures of “affordability.”
The entire Australian economy is premised on the wheels not coming off China.
ell coz, I don’t bring religion into it. Not my bag.
Hatred and contempt of women is despicable, I agree. But trying to remake the world in the image of something that it patently is not, as in 70′s domineering and separatist feminism and the current flow-on from it in naming nonsense and such – that is inviting the combination of a bashed head against a brick wall.
Lizziw There are better ways to recognise and civilise the world for women, which is not an impossible project, in fact, it is quite achievable. These ways come from the wisdom of women’s lived experiences and from recognizing how different we are from men, as well as pointing out our advantages and similarities. The starting point is to agree that both men and women historically have much that they could be bitter about, and to move on from that without descending into bile at men or complete rejection of social conventions that have proven their utility.
Unfortunately for the godforsaken, no, that is not how it works, I’m sure the heathens would offer you employment or status based on your ‘opinyuns’ and after all, we are governed by heathens. Despite my many anti-catholic statements, I have more in common with catholics than I do ‘humanists’.
The starting point is to agree that both men and women historically have much that they could be bitter about, and to move on from that without descending into bile at men or complete rejection of social conventions that have proven their utility.
The intermarriage thing in the ALp is relatively easily explained if you look at it from the perspective of a minority religion. They go off on camps and conferences together from a young age, Just like you would in some Pentecostal movement. You can imagine the young Paul Howes at 15 getting all excited about his “camp girlfriend”.
Look at Bob Ellis. Brought up as a strict Seventh Day Adventist. Goes to uni and abandons his religion. But as he is culturally religious, his abandoned religion is completely substituted with the ALP. What a tragic bastard.
Seattle this week became the latest Northwest city to challenge the export of U.S. coal to Asia, as its City Council declared opposition to moving coal through the city…….
“Seattle has a commitment to fight climate change and become a carbon neutral city by 2050,” said council member Mike O’Brien, chair of the Energy and Environment Committee and prime sponsor of the resolution.
WSJ: Car Battery Start-Ups Fizzle
Armed With $1.26 Billion in U.S. Grants, Firms Opened Nine Factories; Jobs and Production Lag Goals
Since 2009, the Obama administration has awarded more than $1 billion to American companies to make advanced batteries for electric vehicles. Halfway to a six-year goal of producing one million electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles, auto makers are barely at 50,000 cars……
All told, the administration awarded $1.26 billion in matching grants toward the construction of these plants with the promise of creating more than 6,400 jobs. To date, the companies have spent about two-thirds of the total and have hired about 2,000 workers.
Bryan Hansel, chief executive of Smith Electric Vehicles Inc., a Kansas City, Mo., maker of electric delivery vans that use A123 batteries, said battery manufacturing capacity is “overbuilt substantially” right now, and suggested battery makers will struggle during the next two years.
There’s an employment indicator released the Thursday before first Friday of the month payrolls data and it was light.
Also first quarter GDP was revised down to a miserable 1.9%. Although the relationship between the Thurs and Fri employement data points can at times be quite divergent, the numbers coming out have been disappoining setting the stage for tomorrow’s number.
Anal(syts) would be right now revising down their forecasts for payrolls.
All this shit will be over the news tonight in the US.
Romney “knows how to kill well” and he needs to move in for the kill. This is the moment as I’m sure his campaign knows.
Coz, I respect your religious feelings, but I reject your making these feelings the totality of your arguments.
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Obama’s instantaneous embrace of Nutting’s chart–a calculation so absurd even Ezra Klein tried to change the subject, since (among other things) it attributes all but $140 billion of increased 2009 spending most of Obama’s $800+ billion stimulus to Bush, while giving Obama credit for the repayment of Bush’s TARP loans***–raises an interesting pair of possibilities:
a) Does Obama really not have an intuitive feeling for how much he’s been spending? That’s a little like not remembering how much sex you’re having. He’s the one doing the spending, after all. Even if he wasn’t, you’d think an ordinary BS detector would kick in. It’s one thing to expect MSNBC viewers to be credulous. It’s another thing …
or
b) Obama doesn’t care if it’s BS as long as it might work.**
Hot milk time. Plus a spoonful of honey, I think. Milk contains tryptophanes which induce a good sleep. Honey is readily absorbed glucose, which also helps sleep. Biblical land of milk and honey – nomadic pastoralists living off live cattle and wild bees. Judeo-Christian culture is old and still going. Well done, I guess.
Ebtropy
Look at Bob Ellis. Brought up as a strict Seventh Day Adventist. Goes to uni and abandons his religion. But as he is culturally religious, his abandoned religion is completely substituted with the ALP. What a tragic bastard.
weally? I didn’t know Bob was SDA background. Interesting.
Um, I think someone should make the observation that a past experience indicates that it may not be the best idea to dwell on religion in discussions with coz….
well that’s how it is folks, one is either with God or with satan, there is no middle ground, no neutrality, just enormous numbers of people trying to pretend there is some middle ground/humanist/neutral position. I am not deceived.
Why, Steve? Coz’s not vitriolic nor does she fly into a spittle-flecked rage. She’s not being nasty, merely expressing her opinion. But you’re right, you don’t have to engage. No one has a gun to your head.
The utterly brilliant John Yoo at NRO in yet another take-down of yet more Obummer & NYT hypocrisies:
Lastly, if President Obama is picking targets, and has no military background or experience, one is left to ask what criteria the president does use. The laughable answer given in the Times piece is that Obama is a student of Aquinas and Augustine and Catholic just-war theory. I hate to say it, but I wonder whether this was proffered because of the Obama administration’s terrible relations with Catholics right now, because I saw no signs in the article that Obama is in the least bit familiar with Catholic just-war theory, and his background of teaching and practicing civil-rights and constitutional law in Chicago would never have exposed him to it. As someone who has spent some time reading, thinking, and even (right now) writing about Catholic just-war theory, it could actually lead to a much broader use of drones than Obama contemplates (which is the opposite of the article’s thrust) or it is just irrelevant to the modern just-war theory. But in either case, the idea that Obama is applying Catholic just-war theory to pick out drone targets is simply not believable or deeply mistaken.
Honey and milk in the sublime Song of Songs, 4: 9-11.
You ravish my heart,
my sister, my promised bride,
you ravish my heart
with a single one of your glances,
with one single pearl of your necklace.
What spells lie in your love,
my sister, my promised bride!
How delicious is your love, more delicious than wine! How fragrant your perfumes,
more fragrant than all other spices! Your lips, my promised one, distil wild honey.
Honey and milk are under your tongue;
and the scent of your garments is like the scent of Lebanon.
JULIA Gillard’s plan to lift Labor’s deplorable support, become competitive electorally and shore up her own leadership is an admirably simple political message, if not pretty in its aim and execution.
Labor is embarking on a brutally simple campaign to buy votes and belt Tony Abbott.
And get this:
One letter, already distributed in Sydney electorates, hammers the cash being handed out and says: “You have just received some extra money with your payment from the Australian government. It’s money now to help with household costs when the carbon price starts on July 1, 2012. This advance is just the start – there’s more to come. The cash you just received is a lump sum to help now, and over the coming months.”
Jack White is simply one I thought you might have heard of, IT. The rest aren’t so famous, but the small number that have gone that way is growing. Who cares, anyway. People can call themselves whatever they want.
Jeremy, you haven’t recovered since your insistence that the US healthcare system was “second to none”. One of the half-dozen times in the history of Catallaxy you’ve tried to enter a discussion and actually contribute, and you screw it up. No wonder you’re so bitter.
And i was right, jazz. The US system is second to none. The insurance method is shitty but not the system. Like most lefties you get both things confused to suggest they are the same.
One of the half-dozen times in the history of Catallaxy you’ve tried to enter a discussion and actually contribute, and you screw it up
Capital flight from Spain hits record $66bn
Spaniards alarmed by the dire state of their banks are squirreling money abroad at the fastest rate since records began, figures showed on Thursday, and the credit ratings of eight regions were cut.
The Registrar may refuse to register a prohibited name. A prohibited name is:
■ an obscene or offensive name; or
■ a name the registration of which would not be practicable because it is too long, consists of symbols or includes symbols with no phonetic significance, or for some other reason; or
■ a name the registration of which is against the public interest.
Anyone see this. It’s pretty big. Former black Caucus member leave the Demolition Party and joins the Republicans citing that the Demolitionists are now too extreme.
Artur Davis switches from Democratic to Republican party
It’s official: Former Democratic Alabama House member and gubernatorial candidate Artur Davis is becoming a Republican and laying the groundwork for a potential political future in Virginia.
“If I were to run, it would be as a Republican,” he wrote on his Web site. “And I am in the process of changing my voter registration from Alabama to Virginia, a development which likely does represent a closing of one chapter and perhaps the opening of another.”
Davis added that he has been approached about running for a House seat in Northern Virginia in 2014 or 2016 or the Virginia state legislature in 2015. As The Fix reported earlier this month, he could run against Rep. Gerry Connolly (D).
“I welcome this development,” Connolly said of the possibility on MSNBC last Friday. “The fact that they feel they need to recruit a former Democrat from Alabama who does not yet live in our district is a very welcome development, and I look forward to debating him.”
Since losing the 2010 gubernatorial primary in Alabama by a wide margin, the moderate Davis has become a critic of his own party and broken with Democrats on a number of high-profile issues, including voter ID laws.
The Republican Party, Davis said in his statement, “is fighting the drift in this country in a way that comes closest to my way of thinking: wearing a Democratic label no longer matches what I know about my country and its possibilities.” The Alabama Democratic Party in particular, he says, “has weakened and lost faith with more and more Alabamians every year.”
American ABC is reporting that Obama supports killing female babies…
TAPPER: The House is, I think, this afternoon preparing to take up a bill that would ban gender selection as a factor in abortions in this country. And I was wondering — I haven’t a statement of administration policy; I was wondering if the White House had a position on that?
CARNEY: I will have to take that as well. Been focused on other things, but I will get back to you.
Note: The White House got back to me this evening to say the president opposes the bill.
White House deputy press secretary Jamie Smith says in a statement: “The Administration opposes gender discrimination in all forms, but the end result of this legislation would be to subject doctors to criminal prosecution if they fail to determine the motivations behind a very personal and private decision. The government should not intrude in medical decisions or private family matters in this way.”
The defection of a prominent Pennsylvania Democrat to the Republican Party is raising some eyebrows.
Jo Ann Nardelli, a state committeewoman and founding president of the Blair County Federation of Democratic Women, has switched her political affiliation to the GOP, citing her Catholic faith and President Obama’s embrace of gay marriage as reasons.
Don’t worry. The MSM will spin this as a deliberate ploy by political genius Obama and his crack team of campaign managers and advisors to cunningly engineer this defection to distract attention away from the fact that they’re all a bunch of utter morons um that Obama’s policies have failed abysmally – again er that there was some negative economic data released recently.
“The world’s leading women’s health and rights organizations, including the World Health Organization, do not believe that curtailing access to abortion services is a legitimate means of addressing sex selection, and have made clear that gender bias can only be resolved by addressing the underlying conditions that lead to it. And we agree. We support efforts that ensure girls and women have access to economic opportunity, including fair wages, basic health care, political participation, education, and a life free of violence and discrimination. Planned Parenthood works to ensure women and their families have access to high-quality nonjudgmental health services free of coercion, supported by information and counseling.”
Send cash now! They sound like freshmen uni students who forgot to put some money away for the rent. LOL.
Obama’s campaign has worried for months about going up against groups affiliated with GOP operative Karl Rove and billionaires David and Charles Koch. They’re desperate to avoid falling far behind in a campaign cash arms race expected to shatter old fundraising records.
“It makes us nauseous just thinking about all that money,” the Democrat added.
I didn’t back Romney in the primaries but I’ve got to admit, this Mormon bastard is a nightmare for these amateur-hour clowns.
Nasty stupid Dem black leftist Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee on MSNBC:
“Well, Thomas, I think the next act be dragging women out of patient rooms into the streets and screaming over their bodies as they get dragged out of getting access to women’s health care. That’s what I feel like is occurring today with the legislation that is on the floor”
This morning a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit issued an opinion holding the Federal Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional. The court rejected the implausible argument of the trial court that that principles of federalism prevented Congress from defining terms used in federal law. It also declined the invitation to treat a law that considers the category of “sexual orientation” as equivalent to race (i.e. by employing strict or intermediate scrutiny judicial review). The court very clearly says that under the normal approach the courts would use to determine whether Congress had a “rational basis” in passing a law, DOMA would be upheld.
So, why is DOMA unconstitutional? The court concludes that there is a new legal standard that has been emerging in the law whereby the U.S. Supreme Court has “intensified scrutiny of purported justifications where minorities are subject to discrepant treatment and have limited the permissible justifications.”……
It may be a commonplace observation, but it certainly applies here: Why was a written Constitution necessary if constitutionality is merely a function of judicial preferences?
CL, I think it’s a long bow to draw that he supports female infanticide, but the lack of condemnation is telling.
The only time they’d be prosecuted is if they went through with the termination anyway. If they got cold feet and referred on, there would be no problem – and I suspect there are a lot of docs who, not wishing to do the detective work, would do just that. The fucking girl-murdering bastards who request it would learn pretty quickly that their psychopathic behaviour wasn’t going to be tolerated in the broader community.
It would soon be clear that they were going within their own racial group for doctors who were willing to perform this particularly loathsome breed of sexist fuckery, at which point the Left’s onanistic worship of non-white people and cultures and its championing of women’s rights would come into direct collision. Results could be interesting.
If anything, the scales should medically be weighted against boys – since they’re the ones who suffer the consequences of sex-linked diseases in the first place. Any attempt to avoid a girl should be treated with utmost suspicion unless there are very, VERY strong objective grounds for it (e.g. to eliminate an almost certain carrier state, and then only on meticulous Clinical Genetics advice).
The GOP is settling a huge trap on the Dems. A Republican has introduced a bill in the house making it illegal for anyone to obtain an abortion on gender selection. The Kenyan has said he will oppose the bill. Meanwhile the Demolition affiliates like planned parenthood are coming out against it creating even more noise.
This is seriously going to smoke them out. Lets see how his opposition works in the heartland states and places like Pennsylvania.
Charles Krauthammer on FoxNews on the House bill that would make it a federal offense to perform an abortion based on the gender of the fetus:
You have to ask yourself, how could a feminist oppose this kind of legislation? After all, gender selection is the ultimate in gender discrimination. It’s the killing of a female – and it’s almost always a female — in utero, and you would expect a huge protest.
Here it’s probably a very small issue, although it’s a huge issue in India and China where it’s done on a mass scale. The normal ratio is 105 female children to boys, and in China and India it’s 110, 115, which creates huge social imbalance, and it’s unbelievably unjust and sexist.
So why would a feminist oppose it? The reason is because of our odd politics, because of the Supreme Court ruling [Roe v. Wade] which makes it impossible to have a debate about abortion itself. We have to have debates on the periphery. And liberals are going to oppose this because they are afraid it’s a crack in door, that if you were to [place] this kind of restriction on abortion, there will be other restrictions as well…
It’s a weird debate [that] puts people in extremely hypocritical positions.
the quality of the bill doesn’t matter as the perception it creates in people’s minds. Of course it’s difficult, almost impossible to read the mind of someone wanting an abortion.
the intention is to paint the Dems as extremist turds as this sort of abortion is considered despicable and they will be painted as supporting it.
It’s about the perception… how many days or weeks will it take defending his position and wasting time. And the more he talks about the more it may create a seriously extremist image in people’s minds.
“The Administration opposes gender discrimination in all forms, but the end result of this legislation would be to subject doctors to criminal prosecution if they fail to determine the motivations behind a very personal and private decision,” White House deputy press secretary Jamie Smith told ABC News’ Jake Tapper in a statement Wednesday evening. “The government should not intrude in medical decisions or private family matters in this way.”
That is precisely the same rationale Obummer gave for opposing legislation against late term abortions with live birth/infanticide in illinois.
I wonder if there is some way the GOP could corner Obama into defending abortion of foetuses with the homosexual gene. The Left insist that the homosexual gene exists (it’s the only gene they actually believe in) so coupled with their support for abortion, they couldn’t possibly oppose abortions of suspected homosexual children.
Or, better still, if someone were to openly promote the abortion mixed-race babies as a good thing in itself, how could Obama possibly oppose it? He’s already legitimized aborting girls as girls, so there is nothing stopping him giving the green light to people who want to abort mixed-race babies.
The GOP is settling a huge trap on the Dems. A Republican has introduced a bill in the house making it illegal for anyone to obtain an abortion on gender selection. The Kenyan has said he will oppose the bill. Meanwhile the Demolition affiliates like planned parenthood are coming out against it creating even more noise.
They should put something in there about making it illegal to abort babies based on their mixed-race status as well. See how the Democrats react to that.
The Zombie Gazette continues to present its war on the Coalition as news. At the same time, it has begun advertising its weekend edition on AJ’s brekky show. Someone with a pony tail is smoking crack.
30 days to go when the ALP will finally clean up my CO2 polluted neighborhood and drop the global temps 3/5 of 5/8 of f^^ckall degrees.
Can’t wait, less CO2 means less leaf belching trees means bat roosts, less raking etc.
Seriously the answer is Cap and Trade Oxygen. Lay back and think of Paul Krugman.
The Coalition dudes own shares in miners…who are going to appreciate because they are dropping Australia like a hot dog turd.
Combet thinks this means that Australian mines won’t close down.
What a shit eating, mouth breathing idiot. Never worked a day in his life or created a job anywhere.
Look at these SMH idiots. Not an example of bias, just stupidity.
Secret SAS squadron sent to spy in Africa
A SECRET squadron of Australian SAS soldiers has been operating at large in Africa, performing work normally done by spies, in an unannounced and possibly dangerous expansion of Australia’s foreign military engagement.
Here’s another one for Les, with the special thrill of it being said by Catallaxy’s favourite economist (the Krug):
First of all, the question is: What does Romney actually believe? I actually say in the book he’s not a stupid man. But given some of the things he’s said lately, I’ve started to reconsider that. Arguably, Romney, in his inner beliefs, if he has any inner beliefs, is actually more of a Keynesian than he would ever let on. In a way, the Romney election slogan should be: Vote for Romney, he doesn’t mean anything he is saying. But I am not sure that he would actually have the ability to do it, even if he believes that this Republican approach to macroeconomics is all wrong. He’s going to have the problem that he has a rabid congressional party. I think that your best bet, if Romney is in fact elected, is that he, either out of personal conviction or out of sheer inability and unwillingness to stand up to the crazies, will send us down the road to a European-type slump.
The Euro is doomed as a project. It is as inherently unsound as Emissions Trading, and derives from the same elites. But Europe is becoming globally irrelevant. It will be like discussing Scottish independence in a couple of decades.
Are you saying that Scottish independence isn’t a vital question of our
I’m not sure if this made one of the other threads but Bolt has just posted the latest poll from Morgan.
A record: 61.5% to 38.5%.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 4:22 pm
Pity the queen didn’t get Phil the Greek to set the hounds on the old troll.
Token
29 May 12 at 4:31 pm
C.L.,
That would mean 123-126 seats for the Coalition and 23-24 seats for the ALP.
(Yes I said this before).
.
29 May 12 at 4:39 pm
ho hum.
coz
29 May 12 at 4:40 pm
Here we go.
And faster than a speeding bullet, even faster than you can say ‘liar’:
Gab
29 May 12 at 4:41 pm
Yes, that’s how it will turn out. Abbott of course should immediately de-resister them as a political party.
JC
29 May 12 at 4:42 pm
Rudiau
29 May 12 at 4:43 pm
Really? The libs by some accounts will neuter the ABC and Fauxfax will be renamed Fairfax under Gina’s control.
JC
29 May 12 at 4:44 pm
Yeah, but Newspoll says Gillard is 3 point ahead as preferred PM and that’s all that matters!!!1
Feral Abacus
29 May 12 at 4:48 pm
Can only hope you’re right JC.
I thought Howard would have taken the pruning shears to the ABC, certainly hope TA does.
Rudiau
29 May 12 at 4:49 pm
Well I done my bit for the Victorian economy today, ordered a new computer chair, was about $90 cheaper than the Hobart shop.
http://www.ergochairs.com.au/ergochairs/Products/Corporate_pages/posture_seating_2.htm
I had one before but had to sell when I shifted to Tas.
coz
29 May 12 at 4:49 pm
I reckon you are way too soft, Sync.
This is how Bob Ellis maintains discipline on his blog
“Give eight examples of when I was wrong in the past. Or be banned for life.”
ken n
29 May 12 at 4:55 pm
Good, that means Labor has nothing to worry about and is in a election-winning position.
JC is right: the more the ALP delude themselves now, the better it’s going to be in the end.
Tom
29 May 12 at 4:55 pm
Is Bob Ellis a real person?
Wasn’t he on record as saying the ALP would hold onto power with a minority gov’t in NSW?
He’s an internet joke character right?
Feral Abacus
29 May 12 at 5:00 pm
Gab, and who set up FWA and was Industrial Relations Minister in 2009 link
Rudiau
29 May 12 at 5:01 pm
She knows nothing about it, Rudiau. Nothing at all. Young & naive etc.
Gab
29 May 12 at 5:03 pm
I presume the morgan poll selected the burbs in which they would ask the questions in a similar way the phone polls are conducted?
JC
29 May 12 at 5:07 pm
There is a slight bit of sadness that the Aussie Institution that is the ALP is allowing itself to be literally destroyed in three short years in order to allow a soaked to the bone Fabian Society Emily Lister to do whatever the fuck it is that she thinks she’s doing.
I think her plan (as she outlined for the Socialist Forum once) was to use the ALP as a vehicle to force the country to the hard left. She’s using it as a vehicle all right, but jeezuz she sure as hell can’t drive it – except off a cliff.
Isn’t there anybody left in Labor with a shred of a long term survival instinct?
twostix
29 May 12 at 5:07 pm
In some ways you can’t help but admire Bob Ellis.
He exhibits Craig Thomson-esque levels of self-delusion and it doesn’t slow him down at all. I would have given up years ago.
H B Bear
29 May 12 at 5:08 pm
coz, you bought a chair from a mob called Progressive!?
Sinclair! Ban him! Send his isp to Al Queada!
You’ll get Lefty germs up yer bum!
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 5:09 pm
Lindsay Tanner
H B Bear
29 May 12 at 5:10 pm
Do lemmings have survival instincts?
Gab
29 May 12 at 5:10 pm
Oh bless, that Bob is a gift that gives endlessly.
Step One: Insert in a Google search: “Media Watch Dog” and “Bob Ellis” or “Prophet of Palm Beach”
Step Two: Record the links (there will be more than 8)
Step Three: Post on Table Talk
It will be mediated off the site faster than the speed of a fruit bat posting on The Dumm after an article by a contributor from the IPA…
Token
29 May 12 at 5:11 pm
JC, Reading this statement on Morgans site there was no phone poll.
Federal Poll : Finding No. 4782 : The face-to-face Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention was conducted over last weekend, May 26/27, 2012 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 874 Australian electors aged 18+, of all electors surveyed, a low 2.5% did not name a party. Face-to-face polling is more accurate than telephone polling due to the higher response rate achieved compared to other forms of polling including telephone polling and Internet polling. : May 29, 2012
Rudiau
29 May 12 at 5:12 pm
Stix
There’s one problem with my prognosis. If she or they take the view that they’re gone for all money for the next 20 years then it really could be a dangerous time for Australia, as they will do their best to shove all the crap they would be too afraid to in normal circumstances.
I wouldn’t put it past them at all.
Then it gets seriously uglified.
I’m thinking their psychology has gone and could end going like this.
1. fear
2. anger
3. resignation.
4. retribution and pay back to the electorate.
JC
29 May 12 at 5:13 pm
“Isn’t there anybody left in Labor with a shred of a long term survival instinct?
S. Smith cuts a fine figure.
candy
29 May 12 at 5:15 pm
candy
FFS, it’s not the looks we’re worried about. It’s what is embedded inside the skull. Smith is basically a cowardly doofus.
JC
29 May 12 at 5:16 pm
JC, Reading this statement on Morgans site there was no phone poll.
I’m not up to date, the way it used to be done was as part of the regular omnibus survey, most of which was commercial stuff like “what brand of dogfood to you have in your cupboard?”
The sampling was pretty good – addresses would be chosen in advance and if no-one was home, the poller had instructions to try the house 2 doors up on the left, or whatever.
ken n
29 May 12 at 5:19 pm
Thanks Ken.
JC
29 May 12 at 5:22 pm
coz, you bought a chair from a mob called Progressive!?
Sinclair! Ban him! Send his isp to Al Queada!
You’ll get Lefty germs up yer bum!
naw, I bought it from another store, just used that site cos the pic and description were better. So, no danger of lefty germs.
coz
29 May 12 at 5:25 pm
Roy Morgan does door-to-door surveys. It’s their point of differentiation from Newspoll, Galaxy etc, which use telephones. They argue it gives more representative sampling.
DavidLeyonhjelm
29 May 12 at 5:25 pm
Morgan’s right. The Newspoll result is bullshit. Just like the lucky (but temporary) Newspoll improvement for Gillard the day before the Rudd-Gillard spill. That turned out to be bullshit too.
Different methodology. There are advantages either way you do it.
They all do that, all the major polling companies.
Adam Kane
29 May 12 at 5:27 pm
They elected a sound-bite expert as leader, then realized he had none of the practical skills required to lead an organisation.
They got rid of him, then elected someone who appeared to have spunk, but it turned she was a similar illusion: someone who hadn’t even had the dream of leadership, but had been pushed forward by an indiscriminate positive discrimination program.
There is no-one remotely close to the ALP leadership a) who dreamed of it and b) had done the leadership development required over years to make it a success.
Tom
29 May 12 at 5:28 pm
“a dangerous time”? “normal circumstances” ?? do you mean that the current intention of the alp/green coalition is not to destroy he australian society and economy and creage something in their own dystional image?
oil shrill
29 May 12 at 5:32 pm
“candy
FFS, it’s not the looks we’re worried about. It’s what is embedded inside the skull. Smith is basically a cowardly doofus.”
I betcha gab thinks he’s a bit of alright.
candy
29 May 12 at 5:36 pm
“Guess who was at today’s Labor caucus meeting? I thought he was suspended!!”
Irving J
29 May 12 at 5:40 pm
Barry is fucking terrorist shit up – big-time.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?hp
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 5:51 pm
No I don’t, Candy. You know why? I’ll tell you. He’s deplorable. The way in which he has conducted himself as the Minister for Defence has been utterly disgusting and contemptuous of service personnel and the Australian public.
He is a vainglorious show pony who lacks strength of character and intelligence. Self-serving and mediocre at best. To me, he is ugly.
So, no, I don’t find him ‘a bit of alright’ at all.
Gab
29 May 12 at 6:00 pm
Be nice if there was EXIF metadata.
lotocoti
29 May 12 at 6:02 pm
Nilk, why would you be giving up swearing?
Winston, I’m trying to have a bit more couth and culture about me. Doesn’t make me the best role model at times.
I’m getting better though.
When you tell your boss your thinking of giving up swearing for Lent and he offers to get you a swear drum as opposed to a swear jar then you need to take action lol.
nilk
29 May 12 at 6:17 pm
I was Morgan polled once several years ago. IIRC, they asked their questions and you popped your answer paper into a little Morgan box. It was like a secret ballot.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 6:23 pm
His superiors must be mad at his bumbling.
Infidel Tiger
29 May 12 at 6:41 pm
is it right for Mr Carr to expel the Syrian diplomats?
candy
29 May 12 at 6:41 pm
ahahhahaha so it’s possibly more accurate than any other.
Stepford? Where is the loathsome oaf.
Hey Stepford I won. I told you it would get to 60% and we’re over it now as Morgan is pretty decent if its a secret ballot like thingi.
Here’s the other stuff you need to consider, which I’ve always reminded you of.
1. These clowns have an major fuck-up or scandal happening every week now.
2. The bribe went through and nobody’s grateful.
3. Electricity costs are going higher.
4. Unemployement and marginal firms will close or move offshore and the news of this is going to be in the papers each day.
5. China is slowing down that will impact us and they will get blamed for it.
6. The promise of the surplus evaporates.
7. The lying slapper is threatened to be rolled or finally gets rolled.
I’m taking the polls to new heights. I think we’re heading to 70/30 2PP and I’m not kidding.
The liars party will end up fighting for scraps with the Greenlsime in the teens. Watch.
JC
29 May 12 at 6:52 pm
I was also Roy Morganed years ago by doorknock, however, since then I have been asked and have given my email addy and now I get an invitation to do a poll, and the first few questions are demograohic eg postcode, sex, income level, age etc and sometimes they already have enough of a certain type so they say thank you but we don’t need you today. I get polled about every three months and it can be all kinds of things from shampoo to voting age to medication. Can be very interesting.
hzhousewife
29 May 12 at 6:56 pm
I worked for Roy Morgan research throughout the seventies. Their research methodology is strong, they use a larger sample, interview face-to-face and they are independent as opposed to owned by a media outlet.
And even though you tell everyone that they are not compelled in any way to answer the political questions I never had a single one refuse. And it is a secret ballot, they are given a voting slip and put it into the ballot box, they are checked off a master list once all surveys are completed, but there are no personal details that identify the respondents.
Megan
29 May 12 at 7:06 pm
Is Bob Ellis a real person?
I think Bob Ellis is actually a character played by Barry Humphries.
Mother Hubbard's Dog
29 May 12 at 7:07 pm
Crikey don’t mention this Morgan poll at all. they usually do an interesting breakdown of stuff.
candy
29 May 12 at 7:11 pm
Ghost who votes is slow on this Morgan poll. Strange.
Jumpnmcar
29 May 12 at 7:20 pm
Pickering is running a line on Gillard and Barry Obama having it off on a whenever they can basis.
Larry Pickering on Facebook
I usually enjoy his stuff but I think this one is a bit of a stretch. Look at the photo on the linked page. I mean, ewwww.
I guess if it is true she could run the old ‘young and naive, he was a powerful man’ line. And get herself a blue Gap dress for catching any evidence.
brc
29 May 12 at 7:26 pm
I think a reality check is required here to interpret the poll results. If you believe that Morgan accurately reflects the voting intention of the whole population you would have to accept that in the space of one week:
500,000 people who were going to vote labor last weekend decided not to this weekend.
400,000 people who last week were not going to vote LNP, deciced to vote LNP this weekend.
Some might believe that, but then you would also have to believe 300,000 people who were not going to vote greens, decided this weekend that the greens would be the best bet. I know that will stretch credulity on this blog.
I didn’t see on the Morgan website what the sample size and thus statistical sampling error was. I think you will find that next weekend it swings back the other way. That’s not because anyone changed their mind(again), it’s just how statistical sampling works.
steve
29 May 12 at 7:35 pm
Steve…
You ex out the Morgan poll and Newspoll and the number is around 58%. Stop looking for miracles, you idiot. They’re cooked.
JC
29 May 12 at 7:38 pm
But what are the Liberals (sic) going to do?
We’ve seen this time and time again, they’ll have an historic once in 100 years opportunity and they’ll run another WA mortgage brokers scandal!
At least the winged menace and any libertarian with a pulse will be able to resist spending any money. You might be a prize dill but it won’t matter, you’re abolishing stuff not writing an FWA.
First day of sitting, Monday morning 9:00am sell the ABC, 10:00am abolish the marriage act, 10:30am morning tea, 11:00am abolish anything mentioning the word climate,…
Forester
29 May 12 at 7:41 pm
Morgan is finding a record high 2PP for the Coalition vs ALP federally, but 61.5: 38.5 would give ALP a 22% better result than the Qld ALP in the 2012 massacre (12.3% swing versus 15%). For that reason, I believe the ALP has not yet reached the bottom, particularly in view of the fact that the ALP leadership vacuum is producing new crises of incompetence at better than one per calendar month. One of the unknowns is that, in all the metrics, the pollsters are having to extrapolate a huge number of undecideds — 20% or more. A 12.3% swing against would give the ALP 28 out of 150 seats in the Reps; a 15% Queensland-size swing gives them 22 seats. I don’t believe Bligh was anywhere near as badly on the nose as Gillard; for a start, she was a competent leader, even if she was a liar. Even with a leadership change, I think federal Labor are dreaming if they think they can limit the landslide to 15%.
Tom
29 May 12 at 7:44 pm
Morgan face-to face is notoriously volatile & unreliable & is usually excluded from aggregate poll trends for this reason. The face to face gave Beazley a 14% lead over Howard a month & a half out from the 2001 election, Latham a 10% lead the same distance from the 2004 election & Rudd 15% in 2007. In 2010 Morgan’s phone poll was reporting 50/50 a few weeks out from the election while the face-to-face was reporting that Gillard had a 14.5% lead. The phone polls tend to be a lot more stable & reliable (closer to the election).
badm0f0
29 May 12 at 7:48 pm
@tom The polling does take in Vic, Sa and Tas. The cold weather appears to affect their political judgement. Or maybe it’s all the unionised labor. Whatever it is, they’re all clearly nuts down there.
I think we can expect WA and QLD to go ‘Labor’ free, and Victoria to probably lose 1 or 2 seats, and no change in SA or Tas. Not sure about NSW – couple of marginal Western Sydney seats to go + Eden Monaro.
Anyone pining for a Gillard win has to work out where she is going to pick up 3 seats to replace the independents + Thomson. Then they have to start explaining how to offset the QLD + WA losses.
I remember watching Stephen Smith in the 2010 election – trying madly to get the numbers to add up on TV. Well, the numbers are much worse than then – Gillard commanded a 37% primary vote at the time.
I just wish it was happening this weekend.
brc
29 May 12 at 7:52 pm
They’re all volatile, bado to some degree. And you have no real way of determining which one is more accurate at any point in time. That’s why I said you lop off Gallop and newspoll.
Stability doesn’t necessarily mean accuracy, zonk head.
JC
29 May 12 at 7:56 pm
So, motherfucker, you believe there is nothing to worry about for the communists? The peasants will sing The Internationale in the streets whenever they’re summoned?
Tom
29 May 12 at 7:57 pm
Fairfax up 3 cents – is Gina finalising her 19.9%?
Mike
Mike of Marion
29 May 12 at 7:59 pm
The major phone polls tend to track within the same range, show similar trends & usually come close to final election results (some are better than others on some or parameters like primaries but fall down on preference allocation, others get close to the 2pp). The face to face Morgan polls are usually close to nothing resembling the election result or anything else.
badm0f0
29 May 12 at 8:10 pm
The EU: focusing on the real issues.
Gab
29 May 12 at 8:11 pm
Evidence please
.
29 May 12 at 8:14 pm
Macquarie Radio tonight reports the FXJ subediting jobs are being offshored to get rid of high Australian wages. All media are cost-cutting in this way. They don’t have any choice because they’re increasingly exposed to the Google Adsense online monopoly, which is offering advertisers 90% off equivalent offline print space rates.
Tom
29 May 12 at 8:14 pm
would not the polling be dependent on which suburb whch city is done?
or do they a bit of every suburb everwhere in Australia.
candy
29 May 12 at 8:20 pm
Evidence here & here. The latter shows the discrepancies between face to face & phone as Morgan compares a 50/50 phone poll with 57.5/42.5 in a subsequent face to face & claims it as evidence of a strong boost to Gillard (3 weeks from the election). 2001 & 2004 polls show the same sort of huge margins in face to face polls which just weren’t believable or seen in any other polling.
badm0f0
29 May 12 at 8:32 pm
Laborites loved Morgan’s worm when it favoured Rudd. In fact, the worm notoriously loves Labor.
That was cool.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 8:33 pm
Candy – yes, I think expel the Syrian diplomats. A gesture, no more, but international civilised standards need asserting somehow. You don’t shoot up kids, you just don’t.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
29 May 12 at 8:34 pm
That NYT puff piece trumpeting Obama the macho terrorist killer was hilarious. I remember when the CIA declared Al Qaeda all but wiped out worldwide during the later Bush years. Now various
dedicated sockpuppets“administration officials” are suggesting the Kenyan did it. LOL.C.L.
29 May 12 at 8:36 pm
Dot
evidence
steve
29 May 12 at 8:37 pm
How about the Lying Rodent’s effort today, hey?
She says she didn’t see the FWA/Thompson police memo.
Just like she didn’t see the Rinehart enterprise agreement.
Or the race riot texts…
…
…
It really is an illness with her. Pathological.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 8:39 pm
“Candy – yes, I think expel the Syrian diplomats. A gesture, no more, but international civilised standards need asserting somehow. You don’t shoot up kids, you just don’t.”
thank you Elizabeth, i am puzzled by it.
candy
29 May 12 at 8:41 pm
http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2007/4252/
C.L.
29 May 12 at 8:47 pm
Sure you can. Sure.
Gab
29 May 12 at 8:48 pm
Wait, what?
C.L.
29 May 12 at 8:49 pm
Morgan Poll Most Accurate – Morgan Poll Accurate On Major Parties
I love showing you up on your bullshit, baddie.
.
29 May 12 at 8:51 pm
Irving J posted it upthread, CL.
Here.
Gab
29 May 12 at 8:52 pm
WTF?
The only snippet of QT I caught today was Gillard accusing Da Abbott Monster of sending meanies out on the weekend to attack Thompson after saying (?) he would go easy on him. She more or less accused him of trying to push the sociopathic douchebag to suicide.
She is a completely revolting human being.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 8:54 pm
Seventy-somethingth. Yay me.
Just got home from Toowoomba. Bloody cold up there, but the air is crystal clear.
Visiting a friend in hospital and picked up some mexican while up there.
Yum!
kae
29 May 12 at 9:00 pm
I don’t think I’m going to ask you to clarify, Kae
Gab
29 May 12 at 9:02 pm
One of earliest memories was freezing my ass off in Toowoomba, Kae.
Nevertheless, I’ve always loved the place.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 9:03 pm
Australians appear to be losing interest in politics:
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/15-million-potential-voters-go-missing-20120528-1zf99.html
Can there be a clearer signal that the quality of politics (on both sides) in this country is rat shit?
Although it’s probably not true, I’d really like to think some of them are standing up for voluntary voting. There’s an easy way to ensure they’re not bothered while exercising their democratic freedom. Just make it clear that if they’re forced back on the electoral roll they’ll vote against the current government every time until the government of the day makes a move toward voluntary participation.
John Mc
29 May 12 at 9:10 pm
Sore loser.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 9:10 pm
As much as you love the glorious revolution of 2010, motherfucker, Gary Morgan and his family, who have been in the polling business for 50 years, aren’t young punks with ponytails. When he says today’s Newspoll is “frankly unbelievable”, it’s frankly unbelievable and you go looking for weaknesses in Newspoll’s methodology, not his. Bottom line: it’s a volatile electorate and elections are moments of truth where people are true to themselves, not reacting to the novelty of answering questions months or years before. But you trust a good pollster.
Tom
29 May 12 at 9:11 pm
Looks like regional unFairfax is going offshore for admin.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-29/fairfax-sends-jobs-offshore/4040384
coz
29 May 12 at 9:16 pm
That last bit really adds to your argument, angry drunk kangaroo.
steve from brisbane
29 May 12 at 9:18 pm
One of earliest memories was freezing my ass off in Toowoomba, Kae.
Nevertheless, I’ve always loved the place.
You low-country lot should have a meet-up here. That way I can get pleasantly drunk and still walk home.
John Mc
29 May 12 at 9:20 pm
Stepford
Where does one go to see what 70/30 looks like in the seats?
Thanks
JC
29 May 12 at 9:21 pm
Is that a death threat?
kae
29 May 12 at 9:22 pm
Heh.
Fairfax board:
Roger Corbett AO, Chairman
Michael Anderson
Greg Hywood,
Sandra McPhee
Sam Morgan
Linda Nicholls AO
Robert Savage AM
Peter Young AM
Only two women.
Gab
29 May 12 at 9:22 pm
You’re dreaming, JC. A lot of that goes on here.
steve from brisbane
29 May 12 at 9:22 pm
One of the hilarious NYT snippets:
He wasn’t carried away by his own rhetoric?
FMD. Most obscure way of saying “he lied” eveh.
If you read beyond page 1, in fact, you see that the entire piece is an attempt to explain away the fact that Obama came to believe – or was tutored to believe, more likely – that Bush was right.
And is the NYT the only newspaper that refers to the Vice-President as “Joseph R. Biden.” As if that will make him sound like substantive figure.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 9:24 pm
I’m not dreaming, step. I actually think it’s doable. I predicted the little turd’s demise when people thought it was a joke. i also predicted a lib win last election.
I’m pretty decent with trends and the next election will be a wipeout for the liars straddling with the greenslime….
JC
29 May 12 at 9:27 pm
What the new president did not say was that the orders contained a few subtle loopholes.
‘Subtle’ is a word usually associated with the satanic.
coz
29 May 12 at 9:27 pm
Does anyone know why/who forced GoPetition to pull this petition featured in the Gosford Advocate
The petition was up to 7,400 as of 15th May.
Rudiau
29 May 12 at 9:29 pm
Nope. Bush was wrong.
Bush never took the fight to al Qaeda. He screwed the pooch at Tora Bora then screwed it again when he invaded Iraq.
Barry, unlike Bush, has been focussed like a laser beam on taking out the bad guys.
Barry is a cold, calculating killer in defence of the Republic.
While Bush was just a bumbling, loud-mouthed hillbilly.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 9:30 pm
Andrew Bolt is on 2GB Macquarie Radio.
In case anyone is interested.
BTW the EU carbon market is going gangbusters.
Rafe
29 May 12 at 9:30 pm
Did you read the piece I linked to last evening that is the circus called the NYTimes.
Pinch has taken the net worth of the firm down from 7 billion to less than 1 billion and Bloomberg may end up taking it over as the family is screaming.
Is it pinch or punch as i can’t be bothered looking it up.
JC
29 May 12 at 9:30 pm
That’s easy, Rudiau. They bought the story that he might swallow a bottle of Tic Tacs.
It’s the very latest in Gillardian horseshit. We’ve gone from ‘criticise us and we’ll have you arrested’ to ‘criticise us and we’ll commit suicide.’
It’s progress, when you think abut it.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 9:32 pm
That’s one of those bite-you-on-the-bum quotes that’ll be a star witness at your political crucifixion, Steptoe.
Tom
29 May 12 at 9:32 pm
Perhaps the site administrator at GoPetition thought it too mean towards Craig Thomson, Rudi.
Gab
29 May 12 at 9:32 pm
Rudiau, the author is listed as Greg Best, but I can’t get any further.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 9:33 pm
Now this guy is a true libertarian. He’s seasteading in his NYC apartment.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/he_got_lot_of_gill_ZbZdJhT1QZkeodMBgqsAaL
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 9:34 pm
Barry, unlike Bush, has been focussed like a laser beam on taking out the bad guys
Life really is one big art house movie script or ‘legitimate’ theatre production for you luvvies, isn’t it?
John Mc
29 May 12 at 9:34 pm
Read the whole NYT piece. The entire article is about how Obama came to believe he had to follow Bush.
That would be the Bush who annihilated Al Qaeda worldwide, according to the CIA at the time.
The US left at the time said there was no such thing as the ‘war on terror.’
C.L.
29 May 12 at 9:34 pm
Lol..
JC
29 May 12 at 9:34 pm
JC, do you mean that the family did nothing while their fortunes fell 80%?
They deserve to lose the lot.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 9:35 pm
I agree with JC. That’s a classic comment CL.
Gab
29 May 12 at 9:35 pm
Oh Les , stories like that make me so homesick for NYC.
There just isn’t the sheer number of lunatics here and I mean real ones.
JC
29 May 12 at 9:37 pm
I may have skipped the last few pages (only) of the NYT’s Obama-becoming-Bush story but I’m pretty sure it didn’t discuss Libya – the entire country given to Al Qaeda by the Kenyan. Their first whole country since the salad days of the Taliban.
Heckuva job.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 9:37 pm
Yea Winston. They literally watched the price collapse and did nothing. Bloomberg will end up with it and stick the name tag on his site like he did with Newsweek which he paid one dollar for.
They really could have been a freaking powerhouse too. They absolutely fucked it up… well Pinch did.
JC
29 May 12 at 9:40 pm
Rafe, there was a telling exchange on Bolt-Price tonight while they were interviewing Julie Bishop.
Paraphrasing, Bolt wondered if Q&A’s humiliation of Gina would be born in mind by an incoming coalition government.
Bishop: “Thanks for the thought, Andrew.”
Tom
29 May 12 at 9:40 pm
Excellent video mash up. Then and now of David Marr on abusive speech.
Gab
29 May 12 at 9:42 pm
That NYT puff piece trumpeting Obama the macho terrorist killer
“If they are starting to use children…” Obama blathers.
Fucking idiot. They were using twelve year old Muslim kids and Down’s syndrome people and raped women on Bush’s watch; and where was your moral outrage then, you worthless POS? Directed against the people who were trying to kill the savages doing it.
perturbed
29 May 12 at 9:43 pm
Tom I recall that as a comment in response to Price (or Bolt) saying that funding to the ABC would be looked at by the Coalition government. I could be wrong.
Gab
29 May 12 at 9:44 pm
P.S.Don’t also forget that she said she didn’t see internal polling prior to knifing Rudd.
P.P.S. Don’t also also forget she said she didn’t have conversations with anyone about knifing Rudd.
P.P.P.S. Don’t also also also forget she said she didn’t see the speech that was written two weeks before the knifing that she delivered oh so confidently.
A chronic and habitual liar
Splatacrobat
29 May 12 at 9:48 pm
Much of the left at the time were saying there was no such thing as “Al Qaeda” (yes SBS, I remember the relentless stream of lunatic left anti-war “documentaries” you ran).
twostix
29 May 12 at 9:49 pm
Yes, Gab, it was a musing by Bolt to Bishop on ABC funding.
Tom
29 May 12 at 9:50 pm
“Libya – the entire country given to Al Qaeda”
You really are quite ignorant, aren’t you?
Jarrah
29 May 12 at 9:52 pm
No, wait… you don’t actually believe that, it’s just another expression of your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Jarrah
29 May 12 at 9:54 pm
The opportunity arises to pull Holder into line about Fast and Furious, and Republicans refuse to back it?
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 9:55 pm
GoPetition-Changing the World.
Unless it means offending governments, it seems.
The only current Australian political petition is “Say no to Tasmanian MP’s payrise”.
All the rest are petitions about Funeral plan ads to Upgrading the Bruce Highway.
Rudiau
29 May 12 at 9:55 pm
He didn’t screw the pooch, the US WAS the pooch, Pakistan were the animal molesters.
However I largely agree. I saw nothing wrong with a global and coordinated “world war” against terrorism, which he discussed with Chirac on a televised hotline call after 9/11 but never eventuated.
If he did this he’d be up there with Washington.
.
29 May 12 at 9:59 pm
Downfall parody of Ruddfall .
Splatacrobat
29 May 12 at 10:00 pm
Oh, Gab that’s appalling. They truly are pustulent, verminous maggots* on that show.
They bleat on about how she’s tearing her family apart in the courts, what she gives (or doesn’t) to charity, and she wants to control every cent that she makes.
In every case, it’s none of their business. Perhaps we should ask Hewson for his accounting books so that we know what he’s spending his money on.
Perhaps we demand that Marr just hand over money for us to take care of and dole out on his behalf.
As for the ‘children’? Their adults so they can grow the heck up and start acting like it. Gina has fought hard for that business, and built it up. Once your children grow up and become self-sufficient, they have to live their own lives.
This idea that parents owe their kids for ever and ever needs to be taken out and shot.
*working on reducing profanity, so please excuse any redundancies.
nilk
29 May 12 at 10:02 pm
Greg Best is a councillor at Wyong Shire. Apparently he and another councillor tried for a petition as we saw. Three ALP councillors walked out, and the motion failed on a technicality.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 10:02 pm
Quote some articles from The Guardian Jarrah. That’ll show him.
twostix
29 May 12 at 10:02 pm
No, that never happened. Bush screwed the pooch.
No you are lying.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 10:03 pm
You are an idiot.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 10:03 pm
That MAY be true, but you also MIGHT be related to BRYAN CAPALAN.
.
29 May 12 at 10:04 pm
Please explain.
.
29 May 12 at 10:05 pm
Fast and Furious is a non-story. And he is an idiot.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 10:07 pm
Top shelf caucus:
Spreading the wealth of the mining boom subcommittee.
Lol
Rousie
29 May 12 at 10:08 pm
Speaking of Downfall parodies, this one is a classic spoof of Dawkins’ refusal to debate William Lane Craig.
dover_beach
29 May 12 at 10:09 pm
I don’t know why you are so against seasteading, Les.
You just love oppressive little shit c**t regimes being supported by Mugabe lover, Malcolm Fraser.
The Republic of Minerva was illegally invaded by Tonga, and backed by the communist sook leader of the Liberals.
If fuckwit Malcolm didn’t back this, it would have been successful.
The ALP trounced him because he was such a fuckwit. Howard had no respect for him. If Howard, Hawke and Keating ALL dislike you – you’re probably bit of a berk.
.
29 May 12 at 10:09 pm
No.
.
29 May 12 at 10:10 pm
Really? An arm of the government selling arms to mexican drug cartels and hoping they double back so it could be blamed on US gun shows is a non-story?
You’re so forgiving les.
JC
29 May 12 at 10:10 pm
hahaha – that’s the actual name of the committee?? Oh please. And here’s me thinking they just cannot get any more ridiculous.
Gab
29 May 12 at 10:10 pm
Yes, perturbed. I noticed that. According to Obama, Al Qaeda have just started using children!
February 06, 2008: Video Shows Al-Qaida in Iraq Using Children.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 10:11 pm
Who’s Bryan Capalan?
nilk
29 May 12 at 10:12 pm
Other suggestions:
Not letting a good government lose its way subcommittee
It is not a lie if you believe it subcommittee
News poll subcommittee &
AbbottAbbottAbbottAbbott (yes an extra one) subcommittee
Rousie
29 May 12 at 10:13 pm
JC
You are forgetting Obama had an ATAR score of roughly 52.
Be nice.
.
29 May 12 at 10:14 pm
Oh bugger, dot. I was waiting for Les to chuck in the punch line….
It would have been a beauty, I just know it.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 10:16 pm
“Downfall parody of Ruddfall”
Shake those saucebottles!
who doesn’t miss kevni.
candy
29 May 12 at 10:19 pm
How could I forget?
Not only did the man who once condemned US troops in Afghanistan as murderers give Libya to Al Qaeda. He also armed Mexican narco-terrorists, causing the deaths of hundreds of civilians and at least one US law enforcement officer.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 10:19 pm
Me. I’m over him.
Gab
29 May 12 at 10:21 pm
I loathe Gillard but even so, I don’t.
JamesK
29 May 12 at 10:21 pm
is it illegal to lend a hand, matches, kero?
Irving J
29 May 12 at 10:22 pm
John Hewson left his first wife and family on Christmas Eve. so he can’t be too condescending about Ms Rinehart and her family situations.
candy
29 May 12 at 10:23 pm
Two things:
1. It wasn’t small arms but machine guns, assault rifles and 50 calibre rifles which can take down a helicopter.
2. The motive seems clear to provide the anti-gun lobby with ammunition to further erode Americans’ 2nd Amendement rights.
JamesK
29 May 12 at 10:24 pm
In a big blow to the homosupremacist movement, Norway’s biggest serial killer turns out to be gay, like I told yous.
coz
29 May 12 at 10:26 pm
The “Obama is a fiscally prudent and low spending President” meme is undergoing the Mother of All Unravellings.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 10:27 pm
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/mass-killer-breivik-had-unusually-close-relationship-with-mum-norwegian-court-hears/story-e6frf7jx-1226373029998
coz
29 May 12 at 10:27 pm
“give Libya to Al Qaeda”
Prove it. Hell, just give one piece of evidence suggesting that’s a possibly plausible opinion!
“Fast and Furious”
Are you sure you want to go there? That was a tactic started under Bush.
Jarrah
29 May 12 at 10:27 pm
You know, I think the idea that the Left could tell a lie and run with it for a month and then move on, telling all and sundry “That was so last month”, is valid.
The Democrats are falling apart and more and more people are laughing at them for their childish lying. They are being seen for what they are: Immature, dysfunctional humans.
The Left is in a death spiral. The intarwebs have inoculated us by showing us how they practice their deceit.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 10:36 pm
So the ideao of giving high powered assault weapons to killer thugs without tagging the merchandise with a pgps locator and not following the killers was Bush policy?
You are a fvckwit Jarrah.
There is no other reasonable descriptor for dangerous useful idiot twits like you
JamesK
29 May 12 at 10:40 pm
Fast and Furious was no biggie.
I’ve eaten at a lot of very fine restaurants, but I’ve never seen anyone make a souffle without breaking any eggs.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 10:45 pm
Do I want to go there?
Shit yeah, Jarrah, you lying turd!
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2011/10/05/sf-chronicle-story-repeats-ap-fast-furious-misinformation#ixzz1wGJLkgcF
Give up the Uni course Jarrah – it’s turning your head inside out. You’re becoming despicable.
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 10:46 pm
It’s hilarious seeing the fury and rage of the ODS sufferers as it dawns on them that Barry is actually much better at national security and defence than Bush was.
It must really hurt you guys. Your pain and impotent rage is palpable.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 10:48 pm
…and that’s it for me – off to bed. Busy day tomorrow. And the bloody gout is coming back again. I must have broken a window some time ago…
Winston Smith
29 May 12 at 10:49 pm
Here is Les’s NYT story:
Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will.
Now, I should have paid more attention to the headline. Kill List, you say?
Guess who began the Al Qaeda Kill List? And guess which newspaper wrote about it in 2002?
You guessed right! 1. George W. Bush and 2. The New York Times.
But the NYT couldn’t resist sounding the kind of cautionary note they now avoid:
C.L.
29 May 12 at 10:49 pm
Not me. I think he’s been far too easy going and the apology obsession made me shudder in embarrassment for him and his office. However on the whole, he would get a C- for foreign policy.
Try and win an election as the foreign policy president in the US in this climate.
No one gives a flying shit about foreign policy at. As it used to be said.. it’s the economy stupid.
JC
29 May 12 at 10:52 pm
He used to be on Obama’s Kill List:
Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 10:52 pm
Who let bin laden go in tora bora, CL?
Bush.
Who killed bin laden?
Barry.
Fact: Bush didn’t have the nerve to pull the trigger. Barry did.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 10:52 pm
Nope. Untrue. You’re lying.
Bush never even had a chance to make that decision as the military brass walked away. This is when Rumsfeld flew into a rage with the military for being legalistic and dropping the ball on a golden opportunity.
Furthermore noises coming out of the administration have been strongly suggesting that adult, Leon Panetta made the decision himself over the head of the Kenyan as the Kenyan did a harry freeze.
JC
29 May 12 at 10:57 pm
Food, Gab, Mexican food!
Aye chihouhoua!
kae
29 May 12 at 10:59 pm
CL
Toowoomba is a pleasant place, cooler than down where I am in Summer, cooler in winter – (((grins)))
The air is so clear tonight.
No fog.
The fog in Woomba is amazing. It rolls in and is spooky. It can be foggy in Toowoomba any time of the year.
And when it snows in Armidale you can feel it in the wind!!
kae
29 May 12 at 11:01 pm
John Mc, sounds like a plan.
Mk50 has been trying to organise a get-together in Briz for a while, but noone emailed me thru my blog… well, one person did, he’s a member of the usual suspects, we’ve met before at similar gatherings.
And I don’t think it’s fair that you should be within staggering distance when no matter where the meet I have to drive!
There’s good meals at Dan Murphy’s on James Street.
kae
29 May 12 at 11:05 pm
Oh. So not tequila then? Okay.
Gab
29 May 12 at 11:06 pm
Bullshit JC
The buck stops with the CinC. That’s true for bush and Obama both.
Bush let bin laden go. Obama killed him.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 11:06 pm
The group formerly condemned by Democrats as “Dick Cheney’s Illegal Assassination Squad.” You know, SEAL Team 6 – the outfit that regards Obama as a dishonorable douchebag.
Who got the actual mastermind of 9/11?
Oh, that’s right. BUSH.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 11:06 pm
I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE
If the Coalition get a double majority, they ought to repeal everything Rudd and Gillard have done and implement Fightback! to the extent that it isn’t obsolete.
Or they are perpetual bottle merchants.
.
29 May 12 at 11:07 pm
What Romney is up against:
Two books, two standards, for Obama, Bush.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 11:09 pm
How could the buck stop with Bush, if Bush was never informed in the first place?
I don’t quite get your argument Les. It’s not as though Bush was even aware they had him in their sights. Bush is ultimately responsible, but he did not let him go.
Panetta had him killed. He is one of the few adults in the room in that administration.
JC
29 May 12 at 11:09 pm
Eastern Libya is crawling with Al Qaeda, who moved in virtually the day after Nato moved out, presenting a direct threat to Europe.
Tom
29 May 12 at 11:12 pm
So many lies.
Les Majesty
29 May 12 at 11:15 pm
Les you are being stuppidly partisan.
Obummer is a scumbucket especially in regard to this order:
Opinion: Spiking the football
Bin Laden raid was politicized before it even took place
By A. J. Edelman
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:18 pm
Eastern Libya is crawling with Al Qaeda, who moved in the day after Nato moved out, reinforcing the broader threat to Europe by a lawlessness North Africa.
Tom
29 May 12 at 11:19 pm
Ahhhhh, tequila!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyGKNHrZ3B8
kae
29 May 12 at 11:23 pm
What, only Les?
steve
29 May 12 at 11:23 pm
What a douchebag. No wonder SEALS and vets hate him.
C.L.
29 May 12 at 11:27 pm
A quite extraordinary article from a reknown moderate public servant Michael Mukasey, U.S. attorney general from 2007-09, and a U.S. district judge from 1988 to 2006 in a WSJ op-ed
Obama and the bin Laden Bragging Rights
It’s hard to imagine Lincoln or Eisenhower claiming such credit for the heroic actions of others.
RTWT
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:29 pm
Steve you ass,
those quips have been tried here hundreds of times and aren’t funny anymore. Try to improve your trolling since the beating you received when attempting to peddle solar power with Everready batteries. Moron.
JC
29 May 12 at 11:31 pm
It’s worth noting that Mukasey penned that op-ed before Obummer went to Afghanistan and it was published on the day he went to Afghanistan for no other reason than to spike the football on bin Laden’s death.
Obummer is both shameless and disgusting like most extreme leftists.
Mukasey was even more precient than he could have realised.
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:33 pm
Does anyone even care if Abbot becomes another Malcolm Fraser or not? FFS
.
29 May 12 at 11:33 pm
Or even prescient
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:34 pm
He’ll be no less libertarian than John Howard.
But beggars can’t be choosers.
Gillard or Abbott – who ya gonna choose?
I mean it’s heardly difficult is it?
Oh wait… Malcolm could rush in to save the day…..
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:37 pm
I doudt Abbott will ever loose his trousers in unusual circumstances like Fraser did.
splatacrobat
29 May 12 at 11:37 pm
James,
I have NO doubt he’ll be better than the modern, rotting and undead ALP.
I just hope he’ll come to his senses.
.
29 May 12 at 11:40 pm
A wingnut is someone on the far-right wing or far-left wing of the political spectrum – the professional partisans, the unhinged activists and the paranoid conspiracy theorists. They’re the people who always try to divide rather than unite us.
steve
29 May 12 at 11:41 pm
Thus, “steve” is a left wing wingnut.
.
29 May 12 at 11:42 pm
Patton would need say 10 Our Fathers and 10 Hail Marys morning and night for month for that to have any real hope dot.
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:43 pm
Ur an inane fvckwit steve.
You know that.
Right?
JamesK
29 May 12 at 11:44 pm
Of course it does. i said this earlier today in fact, dot. He worries me for a lot of reasons.
JC
29 May 12 at 11:46 pm
Yes, when the leaders of the hive mind issue their commands on what the unworthy unwashed masses should think, they should shut up, not argue with the appeal to Authority in a Nicolai Ceausescu’esque consensus of 97%.
We know Steve, the science is settled and the people must shush.
Token
29 May 12 at 11:49 pm
No you are lying. Steve’s not a divider.
He unites us.
We all think he’s a chucklehead.
All hail Steve the Great Uniter!
sdog
29 May 12 at 11:51 pm
Who doesn’t worry about that when it comes to Abbott?
Looking at his record, he had the political sense to take down 2 sitting (though incompetent) PM’s. In his time in government he was an effective minister who had both the vision to see the flaws in Work Choices & the courage to speak up about it.
That’s so much more than the sociopath and the slapper. So it will be 50 steps in a forward direction.
Token
29 May 12 at 11:53 pm
QandA
Ah, hahahahaha.
kae
29 May 12 at 11:56 pm
Abbott’s the ghost of the DLP – which is why he causes otherwise sane adult Labor Party members to break down in mouth foaming convulsions of utter hate.
I wouldn’t expect him to be a federal Newman.
twostix
30 May 12 at 12:00 am
Andrew Fyfe cartoon: Canberra’s mean streets
I shan’t sleep tonight
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:04 am
JFTR, I stand united with Barry & Michelle on this important issue.
sdog
30 May 12 at 12:05 am
Scott Walker really hit the jackpot with his last 2 senatorial opponents. Warren is unwinding fast…
Token
30 May 12 at 12:05 am
New Obama law requires every swimming pool in America to have an elevator for the disabled.
Joe Biden leads the applause for this new initiative:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI
C.L.
30 May 12 at 12:11 am
Toke
This really looks bad for her, however the Dems are having some sort of vote thing for a local primary and the communist bitch could actually lose it, which means they put up another candidate.
However Fauxhantas is finished.
But don’t forget that this is a state which continued to vote in a man that essentially left a woman to die in a ditched car. So nothing is safe for a GOP’er there.
JC
30 May 12 at 12:11 am
Scott
WalkerBrown.Walker is the GOP Governor of Minissoocold with a
dem/union instituted recall election
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:12 am
bahhh same difference James. All GOP all good.
JC
30 May 12 at 12:14 am
That’s right we’re talking about the guy who the Democrats dis’ed for driving a pickup, not the governor of Beerwaulkee?
Token
30 May 12 at 12:16 am
Walker is the GOP Governor of Minissoocold
No, he’s a cheese-head.
sdog
30 May 12 at 12:17 am
My dog doesn’t like beetroot, either. But that’s because she’s a kelpie. Beetroot is the best vegie that ever came out of a can. Recommended by nine out of 10 farm boys.
Tom
30 May 12 at 12:24 am
Just when I thought the Oz had forgotten how to be the “Hate Meeja”, it all comes back to them:
Token
30 May 12 at 12:24 am
Scott Brown or as Sissy calls him, Senator Hunk Daddy
smh.
sdog
30 May 12 at 12:25 am
Frozen cheese is an acquired taste.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:25 am
And Rick Scott is the GOP Governor of God’s Waiting Room.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:27 am
Know the difference between a phone poll & face to face? How many times can you embarrass yourself this week?
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 12:30 am
Gubner F-State has teh crazy eyes. Srsly.
But at least he’s not Dorito-colored the way their last dude was.
If Jeb Bush were still around, we wouldn’t have all this zombie apocalypse shit happening.
sdog
30 May 12 at 12:36 am
Julia Gillard tries to crush the mischief makers.
A task that reminded me of this famous Lucille Ball skit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbNcQlzV-4
C.L.
30 May 12 at 12:41 am
Speaking of teh crazy eyes, Spot, click that first link.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 12:42 am
said Doomlord earlier. And it ought to be part of the Liberty Quotes.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:44 am
Oh dear. Now that’s scary.
my laptop nearly got sprayed with hot chocolate.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:47 am
Well I’m a gentle soul and my transvestism is restricted to Friday nights Gab
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:49 am
I think she was going for the Julie Bishop-patented Death Stare(TM) there, but failed.
sdog
30 May 12 at 12:50 am
I actually like Julie Bishop more as time rolls on.
She’s not a bad old stick.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:51 am
You ungrateful malcontents:
Tom
30 May 12 at 12:53 am
Sissy. Love that girl.
sdog
30 May 12 at 12:54 am
lol
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:55 am
I agree, James. I quite like Julie now too.
I’m especially impressed with how she bounces up in Question Time. She’s really agile and has a very nice bottom.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 12:57 am
Yes but can she shriek like our banshee-in-chief? Hmmm, I think not.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:59 am
Sissy fights like a girl, Gab. Brutal little thing. Deadly.
sdog
30 May 12 at 1:03 am
From a very sad story about women being burned at the stake (in this day and age) as the villagers believe them to be witches. Their eyes go red due to the dung used for cooking fuel.
But then this last line stood out:
and I couldn’t help but think that’s the same line Brown, Flannery and the climate cabal use.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:05 am
Gittins almost stopped being a Keynesian git, then thought better of it.
Tom
30 May 12 at 1:06 am
That’d be right. CL likes woman politician who has long term de facto partner and is childless…but only if she’s a Liberal.
What a goose of a man.
Steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 1:06 am
Who is Sissy, Spot? I like her work.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:07 am
my mistake, lynched, not burned at the stake.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:10 am
You’re an unwell person, Steve.
But we all know that.
I don’t dislike the person Julia Gillard because she’s childless and shacked up. I dislike her because she’s amoral, a hatemonger and clinically dishonest.
You, on the other hand, like anyone who’s left-wing just because they’re left-wing.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 1:19 am
Ed Morrissey on a Democrat and Obama-backed holocaust:
New Live Action video shows Planned Parenthood encouraging gender-selective abortion, Medicaid fraud.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 1:25 am
Sissy is a gentle and refined well-spoken Yankee lady-blogger who will hand you your arse… on a vintage Limoges ‘American Beauty’ salad plate.
She’s been blogging for ages – in internet time. Read Professor Norm Geras’ profile of her from 2005 here.
sdog
30 May 12 at 1:32 am
And there you have it.
That leftists are vermin demonstrated for 11,679,568th time in just this century
JamesK
30 May 12 at 1:34 am
How can you not love that? I ask you.
sdog
30 May 12 at 1:35 am
A Yankee?! Well I never!
Thank you for the info, Spot.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:36 am
sdog
30 May 12 at 1:42 am
Niall Ferguson: Obama’s Unfair Shot
Wall Street deserves to win its battle with the White House.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 1:50 am
James Taranto still having fun with Pocahontas
Bean and Nothingness
An essay on the phenomenological ontology of racial preferences.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 1:54 am
WSJ: Improvised Explosive Device Tax
Support is growing to repeal this levy on medical innovation.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 1:57 am
How much battle fatigue will voters have by the end of 2013 if they’re going to start now?
Tom
30 May 12 at 2:29 am
Those who responded to Les around the 10-11pm mark wasted their time – he was trolling.
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 5:25 am
Robert Mugabe asked to be UN envoy for tourism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/29/robert-mugabe-un-international-envoy-tourism
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 7:47 am
Kae
Don’t mind driving out your way if John Mc can get there. Toowoomba’s nearly 2 hrs away for me though.
We just need to have a get together!
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 8:03 am
Wow. I expect the next Visit Australia television campaign, featuring Robert having a farm stay with Malcolm, will be our most controversial yet…
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 8:06 am
There’s good meals at Dan Murphy’s on James Street.
The Federal Hotel. I’ve heard it’s quite OK but never eaten there. I would recommend the Spotted Cow or the Southern Hotel.
If everyone comes to an agreement, either Toowoomba or Brisbane, I’ll come along, all else being equal.
John Mc
30 May 12 at 8:28 am
According to his promo, Neil Mitchell this morning will attempt a middle-of-the-road Fairfax defence of Gina Rinehart and a mild rebuke of Q&A from 8.35am.
Tom
30 May 12 at 8:30 am
I Like the spotted cow!
val majkus
30 May 12 at 8:50 am
Though it stinks of pop-psychology, these are interesting observations by one of The Oz’s pet lefties about the feel of the PM’s offices in the past 20 years:
Real leaders define the times and create themes, though they are flexible they should not be instinctively reactive. Which Labor leader meets that criteria of leadership?
Token
30 May 12 at 9:09 am
I am Farmfestering next week so the Spotted Cow will be on the menu
splatacrobat
30 May 12 at 9:42 am
Great article exploding the myths of the ‘party of civil rights’
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/300432/party-civil-rights-kevin-d-williamson
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 9:44 am
Nixon the equal opportunity racist. LOL
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 9:44 am
The Family Court – protecting female sociopaths and criminals…
And yes, the ‘judge’ was a woman.
Family Court splits young brothers.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 9:49 am
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 9:49 am
That is a great article Jeff as it concisely summarises what I’ve found about the truth about race relations, as I’ve been reading US history in depth over a few of years.
I’ve read a LBJ biography which whitewashed so many fact about the man, but still the stench Williamson notes could not be avoided.
Token
30 May 12 at 9:50 am
From Jeff’s article from the Guardian:
What we’ve come to expect from the UN really.
Token
30 May 12 at 9:51 am
From Niall Ferguson’s article which JamesK linked to @1:50am:
BAM!! How do like ‘dem apples!
Token
30 May 12 at 9:57 am
I like Nixon as much as I despise him.
You can see how flawed and human he was.
.
30 May 12 at 10:05 am
dot
I like him too. I think he did as many great things as President as the not so good things. And he was a very sharp guy.
You can’t really call someone a racist if he hates every member of the human race …
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 10:08 am
When voting and when leading the public by speeches, Nixon was on the correct side in the fight against communism and the correct side when it came to civil rights.
Token
30 May 12 at 10:10 am
A new “mega” department has been created called “Human Services” which has swallowed Medicare, Centrelink and Child Support.
Here are some choice quotes from the Minister to staff:
Just in case anyone was labouring under the impression that Federal bureaucrats don’t see themselves as a totalitarian force.
twostix
30 May 12 at 10:10 am
Another Labor slimy trick fails:
Token
30 May 12 at 10:13 am
“Not just the most destitute – but students, and new mums, and retirees, and migrants. Every Australian is served by the Department of Human Services, from the cradle to the grave. ”
that’d be the last thing a new mum would need, a social worker coming into their house and interfering.
candy
30 May 12 at 10:14 am
Thomas Sowell is in fine form today, from the growing lack of realism in many highly-educated people to the dangers of “Meaningful Work”.
sdog
30 May 12 at 10:15 am
Nixon was great. He had the worst predecessor-caused inheritence of any President of the twentieth century and set about trying to turn it around. Not only the Democrat disaster in Vietnam but the beginnings of Johnson’s communism vis-a-vis the economy. He was perfectly justified in going after traitor Daniel Ellsberg and that was the key motivation behind the Watergate burglary – a small-beer affair compared to the vast crimes of Johnson and Kennedy.
And if it wasn’t for the rather strange decision to persist in audio-recording his entire presidency, we wouldn’t have the impression that his language, anti-semitism etc was any different to his predecessors.’ When you think of Kennedy pimping out a young intern to give a blow job to some revolting staffer, it’s realy weird that Nixon gets the rap for being the amoral weirdo par excellence of the Oval Office.
He was a magnificently brilliant and flawed bastard who understood power and how to wield it. If it wasn’t for the pro-communist cowards of the Democrat Party and the media, the North Vietnamese would have pooed their pants at the prospect of confronting him for another two years.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 10:20 am
I’ve had a few exceptionally fine meals at Vlados, the absolute best steaks in town.
Sadly, Vlado died yesterday. RIP.
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/vlado_gregurek/
Gab
30 May 12 at 10:20 am
If that doesn’t send a chill up your spine, there’s something intrinsically wrong with you.
sdog
30 May 12 at 10:20 am
For clarity.
Rabz
30 May 12 at 10:24 am
FMD, that makes any normal citizen want to vomit.
Thousands of these people have to be sacked. Thrown on the street. If an Abbott government doesn’t do this, writ large – if they go on being nice guys and leaving the leftist apparatus in place – they deserve to die on the vine like Fraser and friends.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 10:24 am
Had one of these nosy busybodies drop round the day after we took our firstborn home from the hospital. I was unloading groceries from the car including a sixpack of beer, which she made some nice but slightly passive-aggressive comment about. I can just imagine the filenote – ‘monitor for possible alcoholic father’. I normally buy beer in slabs – that probably would have prompted a followup visit!
Was tempted to say ‘fuck off bitch and mind your own business’, but of course was polite and said we’re fine thanks. Didn’t let her into the house.
papachango
30 May 12 at 10:28 am
do they mean that the people are children and parents or the govt are parents and the people their children? FMD
papachango
30 May 12 at 10:30 am
Very very generous and kind man.
I enjoyed Vlado’s hospitality on several occasions.
A life well lived.
Known and highly regarded by many
JamesK
30 May 12 at 10:32 am
And the grubberment moved to gag the debate. Why? What are they afraid of? Being exposed?
Gab
30 May 12 at 10:33 am
hear, hear.
Gab
30 May 12 at 10:34 am
Had a look at the menu. Vlado’s looks right up my alley. I have to try it next time I’m in Melbourne.
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 10:35 am
We had follow-up visits because of choosing not to breast feed.
Max
30 May 12 at 10:35 am
Mouthwatering …
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 10:36 am
Craig Thomson voted with the coalition twice!!!!
WTF!
Splatacrobat
30 May 12 at 10:36 am
They’re following the UK’s Blair / Brown tyranical social services platform lead to a tee.
55% of new jobs are government jobs, the bulk of those are in Social Services.
Expect to see stories like this appearing here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5858902/Evil-destruction-of-a-happy-family.html
twostix
30 May 12 at 10:37 am
This is what happens when government runs your life from cradle to grave. Toomelah.
Pickles
30 May 12 at 10:37 am
Jason you should. Mouth-wathering beautifully marbled steaks cooked to perfection. Melt-in-the-mouth tender steaks. Heaven.
Gab
30 May 12 at 10:37 am
I’m embarrassed to admit that I live less than a km from Vlados but have never eaten there. It’s widely known as the best steaks in Melbourne, few would argue.
My mates have all gone soft these days and prefer organic fusion food or somesuch.
papachango
30 May 12 at 10:37 am
I’m surprised they couldn’t work meat into the dessert.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 10:38 am
What?
When you have a baby, you have to put up with a state liaison officer or something?
Please explain.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 10:39 am
papachango, I’m puzzled too.
Social workers are sent out everytime someone is born?
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 10:42 am
C. thomson does not appear at all suicidal.
in fact he seems very pleased with himself, like he’s home and hosed, and taunting the Coalition.
candy
30 May 12 at 10:42 am
the prick don’t even tip!
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/zuckerberg-takes-his-new-wife-for-40-lunch–but-fails-to-tip-20120530-1zhx7.html
prolly sees the writing on the wall….
.
30 May 12 at 10:42 am
This is why I’d recommend buying into a good area. You will not be profiled like this.
.
30 May 12 at 10:44 am
It was the maternal and child health outreach or something like that. The hospital must have tipped them off.
Bizarre as there wasn’t the slightest issue with the hopsital birth (a scheduled caesarian but that’s not unusual these days), and breastfeeding was OK
papachango
30 May 12 at 10:44 am
Dot – Richmond is a pretty good area. If the house prices are anything to go by.
papachango
30 May 12 at 10:45 am
CL: I think you’ll find it usually a visit by a community nurse and they are mainly interested in how the new mother is coping, and in particular, hasn’t come down with a serious case of post natal depression.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 10:48 am
Seriously?
So this is like checking up on families in Willoughby?
Tell em to get fucked.
.
30 May 12 at 10:48 am
When both of our little ‘uns were born we shared space with very young unmarried mothers with immature fathers. It was good that the boys at least showed up, though I imagine they were dragged in by the ear.
In both cases the non-Aus parents [different each time] of the Aus born mother were around to help. The girls mother would say responsible things and impart important advice, but the little minxs would ignore them.
Rather, the girls would only listen to the government provided social workers who provided the exact same advice.
The boys were even worse. The social workers could not get through to the morons.
So many things to worry about, the system is just so wrong…
Token
30 May 12 at 10:48 am
Bullshit.
It is because they think they know better than the little people.
.
30 May 12 at 10:49 am
Yesterday, Her Boganess spat:
on the subject of Shagger Thomson.
Today, they gag toe opposition from a any chance to debate the debt ceiling.
The debt is obviously not important to the nashun. Or Gillard.
Gab
30 May 12 at 10:49 am
Every time, no matter what. After the 2nd baby, my wife couldn’t wait to get the breast feeding extremist out of the house.
Token
30 May 12 at 10:50 am
How about a tripe trifle or puddings baked in sausage lining?
Splatacrobat
30 May 12 at 10:50 am
These visits have been going on for a long time. My first kid was born in 2000, and I am sure we had one.
No need to get paranoid about it.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 10:51 am
“Rather, the girls would only listen to the government provided social workers who provided the exact same advice.”
possibly the young girls were scared if they didn’t listen, or appear to listen, their babies would be taken from them. authority can be frightening.
candy
30 May 12 at 10:53 am
In my case – Lindfield – house value 1m+ father in banking mother a teriary educated stay at home mum who couldn’t breastfeed. All in all we had about 4 visits. They get into your house so stublely its scarey. I had an old muscle car at the time. the nurse commented on it to my mrs.
Max
30 May 12 at 10:54 am
But of course you were polite, she has the power to begin proceedings to destroy your family, take your children and place them in an abusive environment before you even get your boots on.
That’s how we all act when these people arrive on the doorstep “to help”.
Friends of ours had a “visit” after a neighbour complained their sons were playing out the front of their house – this in a quiet coastal town, in a quiet cul-de-sac.
Other friends had a “visit” because their 9 year old boy had a faint scratch on his neck that he couldn’t explain to his teacher.
We’ve heard on the grape vine there are others in around the place who also have had “visits” for similar reasons, but few tell because of the shame of it.
On the other hand other friends told us their sister was a totally out of control bi-polar junkie, they rang social services out of worry for their nieces and social services never bothered with it.
twostix
30 May 12 at 10:54 am
Heston has a show where he did meat for every course including desert.
It was a great episode as he found away to film Germaine Greer eating some testicles…and she was a good sport about it.
Token
30 May 12 at 10:54 am
No one is paranoid, SFB. But unlike you, others do not believe the grubberment knows better than them on how to raise their kids, you sniveling fascist.
Gab
30 May 12 at 10:55 am
Token: From Niall Ferguson’s article which JamesK linked to @1:50am:
.
BAM!! How do like ‘dem apples!
But Token, Les the racistkiddie squeals and pants that the Preshizzle (PACO™) is his heeeeeeero for personally leading the SEAL team that killed the paleosimian terrorist dirtball Osama!
How dare you say Les the racistkiddie’s heeeeeeero does not walk on water and give orders to Marx?
After every time our pet racistkiddie talks about the Preshizzle (PACO™) he has to go and change his undies. it’s a special sort of love.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 10:56 am
doubtless SfB is right, that’s the official purpose of the visits.
But it IS nosy and patronising, and the DO think they know best*. When she saw the sixpack she said something like ‘oh it’s good that you’re treating yourself’ in a sarcastic tone.
*By the way, while you get good and bad child nurses, some have NO fucking idea. We were concerned that our child might be mildly autistic and the maternal and child health was adamant that, because he could point at 18 months this was not possible.
He was offcially diagnosed about six months later. We might have got the diagnosis and early intervention sooner if it wasn’t for that dumb bitch.
papachango
30 May 12 at 10:56 am
These unmarried teenage girls and boys needed to be scared as it was clear they hadn’t _got_ the fact how much their life will change.
Token
30 May 12 at 10:56 am
It is a fair concern. A mate’s wife got it real bad after the 2nd child. 6 months of his life working long hours a long way from family support, looking after 2 small children and a PND wife.
It wasn’t the social worker that helped her get over it, and the government did not care less about him. ‘Twas the network of friends & professional care for the woman what did it.
Token
30 May 12 at 11:00 am
Fatty Farr is at it again
Morgan records the biggest ever Coalition lead over Labor… but everybody hates Toyabbott. Obviously if they switched to His Holiness Pope Wentworth the Liberals’ reign would last a thousand years. Remember how much better his polling was?
Feral Abacus
30 May 12 at 11:01 am
In the ACT they come around every week for weeks. On our second the mrs was not interested in having one by every week.
They made it clear someone would be by whether we liked it or not.
twostix
30 May 12 at 11:02 am
twostix, that’s beyond appalling.
It’s at the point where you simply could not blame the parents should they have acquired the means and skills and be cheerfully working their way through a death list the bastards responsible.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:03 am
Feral: Chris Kenny posted a great article which answers the Yabbott crap Fatty Farr, Grattan & co are on about.
Token
30 May 12 at 11:04 am
I think “fuck off you fascist tart” is the correct way to address a community nurse.
.
30 May 12 at 11:05 am
Just in my email box from the local soccer club
Max
30 May 12 at 11:06 am
wow, a NSW Liberal MP with principles. Well done, sir
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/to-end-the-gay-marriage-debate-privatise-matrimony/
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 11:07 am
Dot as twostix said that would land you in dock with your kids taken away, so better not.
I’m glad they didn’t insist on coming inside, as I have a thing about people from the government insisiting on access to my property.
Some woman lobbed up once wanting to do an ‘energy audit’ of my lightbulbs or whatnot. Turns out she wasn’t from one of the green energy compnay rentseekers instead of the govt but claimed that they audits would soon be mandatory. I said something like ‘just let them try and access my property’
papachango
30 May 12 at 11:09 am
Max
It’s wogball. The Saracens ran the Med for a long time.
What did you expect? Luterfisk and Curling?
.
30 May 12 at 11:09 am
jason
Notice the conservatives come up with the same stupid, inaccurate arguments?
.
30 May 12 at 11:10 am
From Dr Phelps’ parliamentary page
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3AllMembers/3177
Wow. I hope to hear more about him in future.
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 11:11 am
I must admit, when I read the article by Phelps I thought dot must have ghost-written it …
Matt
30 May 12 at 11:12 am
Heh. Same here. So was most surprised when I told her, politely, thanks but no thanks. The hide of the (then labor) government. You want entry into my house, get a warrant.
Gab
30 May 12 at 11:13 am
wow -someone in politics here who actually calls themselves libertarian.
papachango
30 May 12 at 11:13 am
Phelps is cool. His speech in parliament talking about how fondly Senator Rhiannon must think of Mother Russia on Mother’s Day is a classic.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 11:20 am
Clive Hamilton Counterpoint for the day:
“If Australia’s security services are not closely monitoring the activities of denialist activists then they are failing in their responsibilities.”
Shorter Clive:
“Look over there, not over here !”
Myrrdin Seren
30 May 12 at 11:22 am
Yep. We had the community nurse out two weeks ago. She saw that our kid wasn’t drunk and that my wife had put away the crack pipe and left.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 11:23 am
File Note:
Father demonstrated verabl abuse towards women. Need to follow up re: likely spousal abuse.
Father was secretive and did not permit me access to residence, child or mother – concern that this is attempt to hide abuse, neglect or criminal behaviour.
Follow up visit required and background checks with police to see if pattern of violence has been demonstrated in past.
Matt
30 May 12 at 11:24 am
The state owns your children. When you register their birth you transfer ownership to the state. It’s only natural for them to check up on their assets.
coz
30 May 12 at 11:27 am
Mark Steyn: The Facebook Caliphate
JamesK
30 May 12 at 11:27 am
LOL
Sailer is great at politely highlighting what a wanker Obama is
http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/obama-high-school-highs-story-of-race.html
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 11:28 am
People are conflating “social worker” with “nurse” or “community nurse”. I am fairly certain workers who are one or the other don’t care to have their job, qualifications and roles mixed up like that.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:28 am
Not good. The black guy in Florida who did the ‘face cannibal’ attack was apparently out of his scone on a new form of drug.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:32 am
Fair enough steve.
I don’t really see the problem if it’s just a community nurse. I’d presume this is just part of the package of services offered by the hospital.
If it’s a social worker on the other hand, it’s almost like a presumption of guilt.
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 11:32 am
This is a shock to me. The state compulsorily barges into your fucking house when you have a child?
That’s utterly disgusting and creepy.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 11:32 am
It has also been revealed that Julia Gillard’s own chief “spin” man, John McTernan is one of the high profile arrivals under Australia’s foreign workers scheme, which is designed for employers who can’t find locals for jobs...
Gab
30 May 12 at 11:34 am
SfB you’re right in that they’re different roles, but the fact is that community nurses act as if they’re scoail workers.
They shouldn’t as they’re not qualified to do so. In fact they should focus on what they’re supposed to be qualified to do. Mine wasn’t even able to pick up the signs of autism correctly and gave false information which amounts to professional negligence for a qualified nurse.
papachango
30 May 12 at 11:35 am
Sums it up nicely.
Gab
30 May 12 at 11:36 am
CL you don’t have to let them in. But if you don’t they might make a note that you’re ‘uncooperative’ and badger you more.
papachango
30 May 12 at 11:36 am
All these positions would be required by law to report suspected abuse and neglect of children. All have the power to have your child removed on suspicion.
Matt
30 May 12 at 11:36 am
Army chief Lt-General David Morrison has banned the Rising Sun Badge from slouch hats (downturned brim). He has also banned ADF personnel wearing more than four commendation badges. Granted, the RSL is probably over-reacting to a decision that applies only to downturned brim usage. Nevertheless, here’s Lt-General Morrison demonstrating his preference for bling sobriety.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 11:40 am
The new drug type is fairly fuzzy. Some data here. Looks to be made from mephedrone, methylone and methylenedioxypyrovalerone. So another in the methylenedioxymethamphetamine/methylamphetamine production line, another entactogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine classes at least in produceability. Bad juju
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:41 am
CL, I think it very likely that this type of program has been well studied as a cost effective way of getting post natal depression (amongst other potential problems) recognised early, and that early intervention has greater chance of success and limiting the cost of the illness.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:41 am
And they will ask to watch you try and fail to breastfeed your hungry screaming kid.
Max
30 May 12 at 11:41 am
Are nurses and social workers qualified to diagnose PND?
Gab
30 May 12 at 11:44 am
In the ACT post natal vists are a government program and they’re bound by mandatory reporting requirements to report anything out of the ordinary to Child Services.
So yes, they’re proxy social workers – the government sends them around to your house to make sure that you’re not neglecting your baby (they call it “coping”).
If you’re not “coping” what is the very first thing they do? Involve Child Services.
twostix
30 May 12 at 11:47 am
it seems very inappropriate for nurse to disregard a parent’s worry over autism or other disorders of their child.
surely they should refer family to the GP in the first instance? nurses ain’t doctors.
candy
30 May 12 at 11:47 am
Community nurses are trained to ask questions that would elicit typical symptoms and observe for signs. The diagnosis is made by a doctor after referral.
Social workers are always clueless wannabe carers
JamesK
30 May 12 at 11:49 am
Many are also lesbians, let’s be honest.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 11:51 am
Nasal septal rings are de rigeur
JamesK
30 May 12 at 11:53 am
The suicidal Craig Thompson.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 11:53 am
The community nurse isn’t as bad as it sounds. Generally she just asks how you’re feeling, weighs the baby to make sure it’s gaining weight and solves any problems you may have with breat feeding etc. To be honest I thought we got the nurse visit because we were private patients, didn’t realsie it had anything to do with the government.
Considering the scum that have kids it’s not that big an evil. I’d like the state to be removing hundreds of kids from their current parents, so I guess I’m a fascist.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 11:54 am
Answering the questions that are really important.
They have finally found out why the bubbles in stout ‘sink’.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:55 am
IT
You are a raving fascist. Go hang yourself in the ladies with a necktie. Children visit this website. We cannot have you infecting them with your filth. GO!!!
.
30 May 12 at 11:57 am
The gaming in parliament today does seem to unmine the pantomime the Liars Party & the Love Media on about in the past week.
Token
30 May 12 at 11:59 am
Milne, The Other Minister for Abbott, just had a mini rant disguised as a press conf, complete with reporters etc. At the end of the rant, no one asked her any questions due to lack of interest.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:01 pm
fucking negligent is what it is. You go back to these guys for immunisations at 1 year and 3 years, at 3 yrs especially is when signs of autism become apparent, but they can be spotted as early as 1 year if you know what to look for.
The earlier it’s picked up the better and if there’s one useful thing these community nurses can do is to spot that and gently recommend a developmental assessment by a paediatrician.
All the medical literature on the subject says that parents know their chld best and if they suspect something’s ‘not quite right’ get a referral to a paediatrician.
papachango
30 May 12 at 12:01 pm
It’s very simple. Abbott said last week he would not accept any vote from Thomson.
Gillard et al thought it clever to put Mr Integrity to the test.
They failed. Abbott won.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:02 pm
Name them.
Nic
30 May 12 at 12:03 pm
I agree with IT/
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 12:05 pm
Zing.
Well. This is a family website, anyways.
.
30 May 12 at 12:05 pm
“on the subject says that parents know their chld best and if they suspect something’s ‘not quite right’ etc
that’s absolutely 100 percent true.
candy
30 May 12 at 12:07 pm
Twitter is aflood with people defending Craig Thompson and using him and his craven game today to attack Abbott and Pyne for making sure they weren’t caught in it.
The left have no core, it’s all mush, they’ve officially put Thompson onto the victim totem.
twostix
30 May 12 at 12:07 pm
Are you competing with Mk50 for the title of “Blog participant with the most gratuitous concern with sexuality in a matter not related to sexuality”?
Or is there some conspiracy thought in your mind that community nurses want to watch breast feeding because they like to see breasts?
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 12:08 pm
liar-stevefb™
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:09 pm
That mantle is yours, and yours alone. Congrats.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:09 pm
Nic:
Les the racistkiddie, our pet self-confessed troll!
We’ll, he’s a child in mental outlook, at least. Does that count?
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 12:10 pm
Don’t get me wrong, community nurses are not bad people and genuinely mean well. Most are reasonably knowledgeable, I was just unlucky with one that gave me some dodgy information. Luckily we largely ignored it and went to the doctor instead.
I do find the government visist very patronising however, and if they’d insisted on watching my wife breastfeed I would have told them to fuck off. Actually she would have got in first
papachango
30 May 12 at 12:12 pm
Haha! Like this is a bad thing:
Fatty O’Barrell backflips on keeping hunters out of national parks.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 12:16 pm
Mandatory reporting is another example of a good intention leading to poor policy outcomes and leads to a well-founded fear of child services.
Matt
30 May 12 at 12:18 pm
Agree that their sexuality should have nothing to do with the issue. But all too often they make is so with their identity politcs. Witness Miriam Whatesername’s comment on Q&A about being ‘an old Jewish lesbian of the Left’, which had absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
papachango
30 May 12 at 12:22 pm
Gab,
ch9 11am news reported the events in parliament as “an embarrassment to the Coalition” WTF
It is now embarrassing to have principles??
On their news there wasn’t a mention of the principle involved.
Rudiau
30 May 12 at 12:27 pm
Really care to give actual examples of the poor outcomes versus the alternative? Do you know why mandatory reporting for suspected abuse/neglect by doctors, health workers, teachers and others was introduced? Because so many actual cases of neglect and abuse went unreported & uninvestigated when nobody saw it as their specific responsibility.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 12:31 pm
I hope the Coalition go after Thomson until he self harms. I don’t wish him to die, but it would be nice if he maybe jumped of a low brick wall and sprained his ankle. Who knows, maybe that would stop him walking up the stairs to brothels?
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 12:31 pm
I get asked to do shit like this quite often. But I let people know that I have to be invited. The pressure to keep numbers of consults up is only moderate in this organisation, but in QHealth, it’s quite ferocious.
When I think of the funds pissed into the wind on Social Services, I think of the waste for such little return. Remember Redfern?
Winston SMITH
30 May 12 at 12:32 pm
Did Ch 9 mention how vulnerable the poor poppet Shagger is at this time, and how these games may effect his fragile state?
Token
30 May 12 at 12:33 pm
On the other hand, Rudi,on ABC24 some Labor MP was being interviewed (I only got the tail end and didn’t see who it was). Questioned asked and the MP started to respond methodically with “Abbott”, to which the interviewer quickly cut in and said
“but they’re not in government. You are…”
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:34 pm
Rudiau
30 May 12 at 12:35 pm
Another inane ley leiberal is Peter van Onselen who I make a point of nver ssupporting by clicking on the links to his articles or Sky program cos h’s a dyed-in-the-wool tosser.
The sub-editor headline on his latest oop-ed in the Oz:
“Abbott is safe as long as PM stays”
The deranged fuckwittery among the lefgtist class is awesome
JamesK
30 May 12 at 12:35 pm
The Libs need to double down on Thompson after this disgusting stunt. As usual if you give the left an inch they’ll repay you with a punch in the face.
Here’s how it went in the PMO’s office:
“We’ve got to neutralise the libs “tainted vote” narrative”
“We’ll wait until numbers are even on some vote, then we’ll get Thompson to sneak over one minute before bells ring”
“Then we can say Abbott accepts his vote, he’s a hypocrite, etc – the love media will eat it up”.
“The optics of Abbott avoiding it will be great even if he does get out!”
Notice in all of this Thompson is still regarded as a fully payed up member of the Labor party tactic squad and the Parliament is used as the ALP’s personal playground.
twostix
30 May 12 at 12:37 pm
Infected paper cut from a credit card statement might be more fitting.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 12:37 pm
LOL
Token
30 May 12 at 12:39 pm
Gab, I’ve manually deleted all ABC Ch’s so i don’t even have to flip over them.
Probably should put them back to get a bit more perspective……maybe tomorrow.
Rudiau
30 May 12 at 12:40 pm
The anti-gas movement continues, with ABC reporting a whole section of the Condamine river bubbling with methane. Don’t stagnant ponds and swamps do that?
blogstrop
30 May 12 at 12:40 pm
I wouldn’t rush, Rudi.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:41 pm
Abbott speeching at Mining Council:
“We will abolish the carbon tax and mining tax…..what the parliament can do, the parliament can also undo..”
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:43 pm
More on bubbly rivers and reservoirs here.
blogstrop
30 May 12 at 12:44 pm
Don’t get me started with mandatory reporting. I know of a case where the public hospital did a botch of the birth, resulting in cranial bleeding of the newborn. This lead to mild brain damage, learning and sight difficulties in the child.
When the child was still a newborn typical overreacting parents took baby back to hospital twice for small ailments, which triggered mandatory reporting. Somehow the hospital figured they could cover their behinds and reported said family to child services for possible abuse, citing ‘shaken baby’. Child Services turned up on the doorstep with a capsule and took 2 month old child away.
Family battled for 2 years and x0,000′s in legal bills to get child back. Managed to get the child released into grandparents care in the meantime. After all was said and done, completely exonerated. No apology or cover of legal costs in the end.
In the end they left the city/state to start a new life somewhere else and put it all behind them. I have no idea how the marriage survived through all that, but it did. The psychological and financial damage to the parents is apparent to this day – hardly a happy childhood to reflect back on.
I hate those guys with a passion. They seem to leave kids in the houses of junkies until they die, yet delight in destroying normal middle class families.
brc
30 May 12 at 12:44 pm
Governments don’t create prosperity. Businesses create prosperity. – Abbott.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:47 pm
brc – that’s disgusting. Surely they can sue someone until their arshole prolapses?
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 12:49 pm
And making everyone’s responsibility is not the answer. You now have minimally trained people making superficial assessments of people that in some cases they have barely met on the basis of guilty-until-proven-innocent.
Staff who work in the area (and I know some) are fearful that a) they will be blamed for missing something minor down the track and b) they will be seen by their clients as spies for Child Services – which is basically true.
If you ever find yourself the subject of a mandatory report, you may not be so sanguine about the legislation. But of course it is not designed to affect nice middle class people who can fight back ..
Child abuse will continue to happen with or without mandatory reporting but innocent families will continue to be ripped apart because of it. Where is the actual evidence it works?
Matt
30 May 12 at 12:49 pm
There do seem to be some shocking cases reported in the media of babies and young children being bashed by stepfathers usually, the child eventually taken to hospital and dying after a young life of torment.
But the social workers miss these cases seemingly. Perhaps there’s only a few but.
candy
30 May 12 at 12:51 pm
IT it was a few years ago. It was talked about but the family never wanted to step into a courtroom ever again. IIRC they needed a doctor to go against the hospital doctors, and unlike a Grisham novel, it’s much harder to do in practice than in theory and costs money upfront. Cash was a major problem at the time. They were saving to purchase a house, the deposit was gone and then they had to borrow money from family. They just bailed from the state and started again.
brc
30 May 12 at 12:53 pm
Saw that Thatcher movie on a flight last week, then I listened to this speech by the old rake Lord McAlpine at the Sydney Institute.
By jingos the man is entertaining and provides some magnificient context to the movie.
Interesting how he notes the lefty director of Thatcher came by the visit but did not ask about his experience with the Iron Laday talked about fertiliser.
Token
30 May 12 at 12:54 pm
Of course lol.
Nic
30 May 12 at 12:55 pm
Yep – and this happens under the current Mandatory Reporting regime. Mandatory reporting does not appear to lead to any diminuition in rates of child abuse but it does suck in a much larger group of families into the Child Services maw. That’s a positive outcome?
Matt
30 May 12 at 12:55 pm
They beat you through mental attrition. It’s why I can understand the lone gunmen who takes out a whole department with extreme prejudice.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 12:55 pm
A bit of further googling indicates that there are methane bubbles naturally occurring on rivers all over the world, and that natural causes, not drilling for gas, are usually to blame. Decomposition of organic material is an obvious one, but there’s even a chance of other chemical reactions going on under certain conditions, leading to a CH4 outcome. Instances are noted in places like Norway, Siberia, and Switzerland, not just the tropics.
blogstrop
30 May 12 at 12:56 pm
There is a certain class of men who like to move in with single mothers…
Token
30 May 12 at 12:56 pm
@Matt – I’d like to see evidence it is doing more good than harm. Because just based on the available media stories I don’t think that is the case. I doubt deaths from abuse or neglect are down, mainly because those sorts of people are the ones that don’t go near medical or government services.
However innocent families getting torn apart from state meddling is definitely a modern intervention.
brc
30 May 12 at 12:57 pm
Abbott cut quite the dashing figure (literally) this morning as he sprinted out of parliament this morning.
i’d like to see Gillard attempt such a feat.
Gab
30 May 12 at 12:58 pm
How did Fairfax was it put yesterday?
Token
30 May 12 at 1:05 pm
FMD. It IS just a CL sockpuppet.
Peter Patton
30 May 12 at 1:06 pm
You’re being dispicable and disgusting again Peter.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 1:07 pm
Makes Abbott look like rather silly. This is a good thing.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 1:08 pm
A mate (Registered Nurse) who worked in ICU in a large metropolitan hospital had warned social services of a young girl being physically abused over a two year period. Multiple admissions for fractures, etc. SS did nothing. Then one day she came in with a cerebral bleed from being bashed. (You don’t need to know the rest.) He walked out of ICU, went to the SS office and dragged the senior person out of a meeting, physically manhandled her down to ICU and demanded she watch the turning off of the the life support machinery of the 8yo.
They knew what was going on, but it was an Aboriginal family and therefore in the ‘too hard’ basket.
Not one of the saved generation.
Winston SMITH
30 May 12 at 1:10 pm
Patton will be forced to say three Hail Mary’s as penance.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:13 pm
Only in the small minds of the incestuously closed leftist society
JamesK
30 May 12 at 1:16 pm
I get the feeling this is the type of get up PP wears when he gets into his anti-Catholic rants.
Token
30 May 12 at 1:18 pm
Interesting watching Hockey give a good press conf this morning, a few minutes after Abbott’s speech to the Mining Council. Ih his speech, Abbott said that some people say it will be very hard for him to repeal the carbon dioxide tax but that it wouldn’t stop him.
So back to Hockey, wherein some idiot troublemaker posing as a “reporter”, with the intention of a “gotcha”, questioned Hockey on Abbott’s comment saying that Abbot said “it would be too hard to repeal the carbon tax”.
To his credit, Hockey said: “I’m not going to comment on your interpretation of what Mr Abbott said”.
finally, these guys are wising up.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:22 pm
Nah, Token. This is more his style.
Gab
30 May 12 at 1:25 pm
Never give them an inch; always take a mile. After all, it’s what they do, all the time. At least play defensively.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 1:26 pm
It says something about the state of things when just about everyone knows a story involving either meddling by the state in innocent families, or the state totally ignoring cases where it should be involved.
A cynical observer such as myself would say they are looking for soft targets to fill their quota rather than trying to actually achieve any good. A bit like how sometimes it seems the police would rather hand out speeding tickets than investigate crimes. Law abiding middle class people tend to be easy to boss around.
brc
30 May 12 at 1:26 pm
Mandatory reporting laws implemented under pressure from activist, overbearing, intrusive welfare agenices who operate under murky illiberal laws and secret courts cause people to fear going to the doctor if their child is hurt.
That’s the first (very major) negative outcome.
The other is that child services agencies have been so overwhelmed with specious reports that they don’t bother checking most anymore, where though vast majority of professionals ignore 99% of what they are supposed to report, those that do report in accordance with the letter of the law have overwhelmed the serivces:
Here are some of the NSW governments “signs of abuse” that if seen require reporting:
- social or geographic isolation of the child, young person or family, including lack of access to extended family [live on a farm, you're on the list]
- child not adequately supervised for their age [subjective]
- extended stays at school, public places, other homes [unless you work late, then it's not abuse, otherwise it is]
- leaving the child without appropriate supervision [subjective]
- withholding physical contact or stimulation for prolonged periods (whatever the hell that means)
- has unrealistic expectations of the child [subjective]
- dislocations, sprains, twisting [got active boys? be careful]
- multiple injuries or bruises [got active boys? be careful]
- [parent]fears injuring their child [wtf]
- [parent]uses excessive discipline [subjective]
- using inappropriate physical or social isolation as punishment [aka grounding - subjective]
The problem is, once one has kids and meets other parents the definition of the subjective items and what is “acceptable” is wildly different from one person to another, from parent to parent, to doctor, nurse or teacher to the social worker who comes into your home because your kid has an unexplainable scratch and his teacher (though they won’t tell you who it was who made the complaint) has decided to report you.
Once somebody has been reported for something stupid, the word gets out and decreases the level of trust people have in doctors, teachers, etc – another negative outcome.
twostix
30 May 12 at 1:31 pm
Did this fool think he was dealing with little Billy “how deep can my nose go” Shorten?
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 1:32 pm
Nothing cynical about it. When was the last time a blackfella’s kid was taken out of one of the hovels they live in? The twelth of Never would be my guess.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 1:34 pm
Gab!! Where on earth did you find those slippers? Cracked me up over my lunch.
They might provide PP with an excuse to discuss the continuing and inventive tradition of Roman and Greek hermes. His knowledge of ancient traditions is extensive and does add value to our varied deliberations, imo.
btw, I watched the Da Vinci Code completely alone, the only viewer, in a forlorn British and seedy seaside town. It was a terrible film, but quite spooky in that context.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 1:38 pm
Were you wearing a raincoat Lizzie?
Jc
30 May 12 at 1:51 pm
Harry will run around with old wine corks trying to plug them up.
Jc
30 May 12 at 1:55 pm
You repeat yourself.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 1:55 pm
That’s where popular prejudice runs into hard reality. Indigenous (A/TSI) children are almost 10 times more likely to be placed in care than non-Aboriginal children.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 1:56 pm
Suicide Boy says he came up with the idea all by himself.
Also at that link, one of the most quaint and rare parliamentary customs. When you raise a point of order during a division, conventionally you cover your head. Joe Hockey does so at 0.33.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 1:57 pm
That was also the general consensus at a dinner where we were given the story about our friends junkie sister who was ignored but our benign middle class friends had just had a door knock because their kids were playing out the front under “inappropriate supervision” (it was theorised that the complaint was made by neighbours across the road who they had a long running dispute with).
twostix
30 May 12 at 1:57 pm
0.31-0.33, rather.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 1:58 pm
It’s always about racism, gay sex, bodily emissions or “n*ggers” with you, 49. You are a deeply weird person.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 1:58 pm
Do you know the reasoning behind this tradition, CL?
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:00 pm
That’s good. However, are they removed from the camps completely or just given to someone who is slightly less inebriated who lives next door?
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:00 pm
C’mon… Why should facts and empirical reality be allowed to distract from a Catellaxetard’s typically hysterical rant about reverse racism?
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 2:00 pm
So IT and Jason are both nanny staters.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 2:00 pm
Of course, JC. It was wet and windy outside.
Which reminds me, as I am now being re-identified (in jest I hope, JC): what is all of this ‘sock-puppet’ identity stuff from PP about stalwart people like Gab?
Founded on fantasy, I think. Joke over, PP.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 2:02 pm
Does that mean they are actually placed or is it just conjecture?
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:02 pm
Les, you missed some Mk50, um, excitement, this morning in the Abusive Speech thread. It’s hard to explain in detail without exposing the blog to defamation again.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 2:03 pm
Lizzie it was started by Philomenia over at Graeme’s and Steve dutifully followed suit and PP has now also followed the leader, like a lemming.
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:04 pm
As against your comments about Abbott’s sex life, yea?
JC
30 May 12 at 2:04 pm
You’re never very hard on yourself, Setpford
JC
30 May 12 at 2:05 pm
About 70% of care cases are preferred placements – either with a relative, in community or another indigenous carer. 30% are non-preferred or the standard out of home care options.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 2:06 pm
Phil started it? Lol You mean Olive Oil?
Olive also thought I was Birdflaps for some godly reason. I didn’t even sound like him.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:07 pm
Shagger tweets that he generally doesn’t support gag orders….
The ABC report finished by informing us he had supportred gag orders on 5 occasions since becoming an ‘independent’
JamesK
30 May 12 at 2:07 pm
Gab, there are a few explanations but the simplest one is that with all the movement about the chamber during a division, a man covering his head (usually with a sheet of paper) is more easily seen by the Speaker. More arcanely, the practice was adopted from the House of Commons where a member may make a point of order sitting and wearing a hat during a division.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 2:08 pm
Yes, JC, it was when Oily ranted one day at Graeme for talking to me. She gave iom an ultimatum: either her or me
LOL.
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:09 pm
I swear to God, I thought that was going to like this and then i realized it was about Parliament.
Shagger tweets that he generally doesn’t support gag orders for hookers.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:10 pm
Ah, thanks, CL. That makes sense.
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:10 pm
Is that reference to his brothel escapades?
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:11 pm
Sorry my original clarification seems to have been eaten by a browser refresh:
it isn’t 10 times more likely, indigenous kids subject to abuse/neglect are placed in care at almost 10 times the rate of non-indigenous kids. AIHW has fact sheets for general population & A/TSI figures for abuse & neglect reports.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 2:11 pm
Someone on twitter ask Thommo if he issued any gag orders on the HSU dime?
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:11 pm
Oh Yea, I vaguely recall Olive demand. I don’t remember what Bird did. No doubt he decided to go with Olive.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:12 pm
I just popped over and had a look.
I can only imagine what 49 said…. I assume he was even more drama queenish and more obsessed with the particulars of male homosexual intercourse than usual?
Did he make liberal use of italics, underlining and bold?
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 2:12 pm
You have a filthy filthy mind, Infidel.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:13 pm
Catallaxy’s own David Marr – luvvie Peter Patton – voted for Kevin Rudd in 2007, preferenced the Greens in 2010 (the fact that Bob Brown is a fellow homo was pure coincidence, I’m sure), praised lesbian Penny Wong here a few weeks ago and now touts a “good looking” King’s Old Boy as the future of the Liberal Party.
Needless to say, he hates Tony Abbott.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 2:14 pm
7.30 on ABC last night had a story about an aboriginal town in total dysfunction; a previous mission town that in the 70′s was just beginning to disintegrate, but in full mode now. There was general agreement among dwellers and bureaucrats that penetrative child sexual abuse of children as young as five was rife, unsupervised children were abandonned to their fate, drunkeness prevailed and buildings had all been totally trashed. More money needed, was the mantra from the few sober ones left. Two burned-out health workers were interviewed, having left the area. They were suffering on-going depression from their experiences there.
The most notable thing to me was that they thought that NOTHING COULD BE DONE. So totally had these distressed and well-meaning people absorbed the litany of leftist hands-off policy that they were rendered powerless to suggest how to intervene.
It was pretty clear that the whole so-called ‘community’ should be removed and separated from each other so that normal community standards and legal requirements of the wider society could be brought to bear on each and every member; not the convulsive ‘normative’ standards of that group.
This was no ‘aboriginal’ culture. This was a concentration camp for children.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 2:15 pm
Lester and Stepford seem to be really getting along these days. Funny what brings people together.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:15 pm
It’s like Code Pink supporting the Taliban.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:16 pm
Back in the day, people who carried on like Iq49 does were advised to undergo an emergency hysterectomy.
Of course, science has moved on from that.
But we still don’t have a good treatment for distressed hysterics such as 49.
Electro-convulsive therapy might help, but that won’t address his underlying gender dysphoria.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 2:16 pm
Sorry if this has been mentioned in another thread, but it’s rather amusing:
Uber Genius Barack Obama refers to Polish death camps and, strangely enough, offends the Poles.
He’s such an incredible intellect. Romney’s toast.
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 2:16 pm
Thank you for clarifying, Baddy.
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:17 pm
Les: how did you guess? He only went with italics this time, though.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 2:17 pm
What a toe rag. He showed more integrity in those two minutes than she ever has.
Nic
30 May 12 at 2:17 pm
That is uncalled for.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 2:18 pm
The world awaits his final decision:
Carr won’t rule out military intervention in Syria.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 2:19 pm
There goes Illinois.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:20 pm
Yes. going to extreme measures to keep your word is extremely unbecoming in a leader – or anyone, really – as Tubbsy firmly believes.
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 2:20 pm
Send in the Australian Navy. We’ll have to find a puncture repair kit for our flotilla of lilos first.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:20 pm
Ah yes and yet another “Sorry Day” in the making I would think.
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:20 pm
Oh ffs someone get this moron an adult diaper.
another great decision by the lying slapper.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:21 pm
IT: your position on community nurses visits today was exactly like mine (“stop being paranoid”.)
You also agreed with me once last week (about gay icons in music) and congratulated me on showing signs of masculinity on Saturday. (Even though I have talked about boutique beers before.)
I’m not sure which of us should be more distressed.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 2:21 pm
Boob Carr is subtly threatening Assad?
Those Syrian thugs are shaking in their boots as we speak
JamesK
30 May 12 at 2:22 pm
IT
Dude …
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 2:22 pm
at the end of which no reporter asked her any quesrions.
Gab
30 May 12 at 2:22 pm
Les
getting friendly with the tax evader, are we?
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 2:23 pm
Steve is flirting with IT.
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 2:23 pm
Please say that I am the Taliban and Steve is code pink….?
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 2:23 pm
Libya of course, being the resounding triumph it was.
FFS, what a puffed up zombie numpty…
Rabz
30 May 12 at 2:24 pm
Chris Kenny notices that Pauline Gillard has resurrected traditional Labor hatred for non-whites:
Not a far cry from the Australian labour movement of old.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 2:25 pm
Les, are you into pederasty? If yes, then you can be the Talib.
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 2:27 pm
Patton..
I can understand someone making a serious error and voting for the little turd in 07. That’s forgivable in some way that only a Catholic could understand.
However is the rest fucking true? You preferenced the fucking slime in 2010?
We need answers Patton. Everyone here does.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:27 pm
Nah. Poles second leftists first.
Lech Walesa has criticised Obummer and indeed campaigned for a Republican of Polish descent in Chicago.
It didn’t make a difference.
Besides votes slipped in to the ballot box by living voters are not counted in Illinois.
JamesK
30 May 12 at 2:28 pm
Steve as I explained to you when you said you were about to have a boutique dark beer, I think my tuition is working for you.
It’s a big project but I have no doubt we can butch you up sufficiently so that other people don’t point and stare.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:28 pm
Barry Humphries on Q&A reckons Bob Carr looks like a perfect undertaker.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:29 pm
He’s going to end up looking like Pauline Pantsdown, you realise this, IT?
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 2:29 pm
Lol Oh yea. the demolition party focuses most of it’s resources on getting the dead vote in Illinois.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:30 pm
As it turned out, I only had time for two beers. The better one was a Coopers 150 Celebration Ale.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 2:30 pm
In defence of steve, he likes McDonalds too.
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 2:32 pm
IMO that looks suspiciously like a sequel to the Australia Day stunt
val majkus
30 May 12 at 2:33 pm
“At 5.2% abv, it has a rich aroma of fruity esters with a slight hint of citrus and has a warm finish
on the palate. It is also slightly more bitter than other Coopers ales.”
That sounds almost manly. Well done.
Next week we will talk about filling out a betting slip.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:33 pm
The final lessons will be on appropriate choice of moisturiser & lip balm to bring out a glowing complexion.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 2:34 pm
That did not fucking sound manly, IT.
This is a manly analysis of a beer:
“not a bad drop”
Nothing more.
Oh come on
30 May 12 at 2:36 pm
Then JC will teach him how to get a military style crease ironed into your Pepe Jeans.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 2:38 pm
Too damn bad. Just bite this particular bullet and do something positive for those kids.
I suspect the world has moved on a bit from ‘sorry’, given what is happening in remoter aboriginal communities right now, well-documented and illegal. I’m sorry. I’m certainly sorry – poor fellow, my country, indeed.
Get together an aboriginal task-force led by Noel Pearson (he might be willing) or Mal Brough to assist with the ‘transfer’ (a better word than ‘removal’) of the population to dispersed living situations elsewhere, for the sake of the children.
Or just bloody DO IT. Fait accompli. Life experience shows it is easier to ask for forgiveness (should it be required), than permission.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 2:39 pm
“In defence” and ‘steve” in the same setence is so, so wrong. It’s against itself and somewhere in the universe being died as a result.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:39 pm
oops it’s against nature
JC
30 May 12 at 2:40 pm
I’m going out for a drive, because this stuff really annoys me ….
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 2:40 pm
.. the aboriginal kids stuff, and no-one doing anything about it, and lefties wittering on about rights etc. Any wittering lefty should be invited to leave their kids there overnight, without supervision. That might bring it home to them.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 2:43 pm
Shut up IT. I don’t wear creased jeans. However you wear moisturizer and sun block while driving the volvo.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:43 pm
WTF? alan kohlon brings teh stoopid – massive share price collapses, declining readership, all part the
braindeadbrilliant fauxfax plans for domestic meeja domination…Rabz
30 May 12 at 2:47 pm
Sandalwearers with a silvertail are worth 100 points
JamesK
30 May 12 at 2:47 pm
Just announced: Chip Rolley, director of the Sydney Writers Festival’s annual luvvie wankathon, has been appointed new editor of The Drum.
If there is no other reason to vote for Abbott, cleaning out the ABC will be enough.
areff
30 May 12 at 2:49 pm
So totally had these distressed and well-meaning people absorbed the litany of leftist hands-off policy that they were rendered powerless to suggest how to intervene.
Well if those dumb ass ideologues starting thinking about this issue in relation to human developmental dynamics they might begin to realise that rants about rights have little to do with improving the plight of aboriginal children. Theyare condemning these children to a life that deprives them of the full developmental opportunities available to human beings in Australia. Having them live in these communities is an incredibly stupid and cruel idea. A couple of weeks ago I was tinkering with the idea that if I wanted to attack this nonsense my best approach would be to pit their concerns about “aboriginal culture(which is stereotyping every single aborigine!) and self determination(which in my world is an oxymoron) against the known realities of what is the best environment in which to raise children. So which is more important, aboriginal children or aboriginal culture?
John H.
30 May 12 at 2:52 pm
I think IT understands that your jeans are always tastefully pressed & you would never sport anything so gauche as creased denims which would detract from the casual chic of your Armani espradilles.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 2:57 pm
One can see the statistics on child welfare here:
http://www.aifs.gov.au/nch/pubs/sheets/rs1/rs1.html
Check the first chart, despite “notifications” going through the roof from 2000 – 2010 (150,000-350,000!) substantiations after investigation having been dropping.
In 2008 there was 350,000 reports which triggered 162,000 investigations into 208,000 children. Of that only 54,000 reports were substantiated, of that only about 8000 children were placed on “orders” that year
208,000 children investigated ~8000 put “on orders”.
twostix
30 May 12 at 2:59 pm
Are you fucking kidding me. Alan Kohler said that? What a mindless freaking Gump he is.
Alan, you immortal buffoon. There was no plan for the firm to lose 90% of it’s stock price and nearly all their readership pertaining to the dailies.
Alan you dope, they are in asset sale mode because the banks have basically told them to reduce debt and they have a euro bond issue that will mature with no hope of rolling it over.
Where the fuck did you learn finance you idiot.
JC
30 May 12 at 2:59 pm
Australia is paying the price for hugging the coast and lapping up the easy life in the South and East. Nobody wants to go west where the jobs are and pioneer new communities and (crazy thought) build new cities (even a crim like Bugsy Siegel had more get up and go creating Las Vegas in the middle of the bleeding desert!)
Last 4 Corners showed how the makeshift FIFO solution wasn’t really working alienating the locals and distorting the local economy. The Libs every now then talk about developing the north and building dams to create a new food bowl. But nothing happens. Are we really the second raters that Donald Horne said we are?
Viva
30 May 12 at 3:01 pm
Latest update on convicted felon, Soros-funded Brett Kimberlin’s cyberwar and lawfare in the States against bloggers ( on both sides of the political divide ) he ‘takes issue’ with.
Richard Fernandez comments:
“The real significance of the Kimberlin saga is that it suggests that in some quarters at least, the gloves are off. Anything goes. Anything.”
Yup – if it looks like a war, sounds like a war and smells like a war, it’s probably a war.
Myrrdin Seren
30 May 12 at 3:04 pm
Why thankyou, Bado. I must say that sounds like the perfect look on St Barts for me next March as I was thinking of the warddrobe combination.
JC
30 May 12 at 3:06 pm
People will go there and work – just not Australians.
I say we should let anyone in the country who is willing and able to work in areas like the Pilbara. Maybe a 10 year remote residency and employment requirement before citizenship and/or permanent right of residence is granted.
Matt
30 May 12 at 3:06 pm
MS
That story is really quite ugly. I also think that things will get pretty ugly when the Kenyan loses and they try to mug President Romney and his supporters.
JC
30 May 12 at 3:09 pm
BIG problem.
http://www.nature.com/news/replication-studies-bad-copy-1.10634
Pervasive bias
Psychology is not alone in facing these problems. In a now-famous paper2, John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist currently at Stanford School of Medicine in California argued that “most published research findings are false”, according to statistical logic. In a survey of 4,600 studies from across the sciences, Daniele Fanelli, a social scientist at the University of Edinburgh, UK, found that the proportion of positive results rose by more than 22% between 1990 and 2007 (ref. 3). Psychology and psychiatry, according to other work by Fanelli4, are the worst offenders: they are five times more likely to report a positive result than are the space sciences, which are at the other end of the spectrum (see ‘Accentuate the positive’).
John H.
30 May 12 at 3:10 pm
Good luck with that. We saw the blowback Howard, Brough, et al got from the lefties fought off attempts based around the intention to reduce the level of child abuse.
No matter how noble your intentions and critical the need is, the story will be perverted.
Token
30 May 12 at 3:11 pm
JC,
Kohler gets taken to school by Mr Pacino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac6cOJb2FvI
Myriddin keep us posted. What Soros is doing is sickening.
.
30 May 12 at 3:11 pm
The ABC & Fairfax, and now he produces the Business version of Crikey.
Token
30 May 12 at 3:12 pm
I don’t think traditional Aboriginal culture ever included able bodied people being supported by others to sit around and drink.
Toomelah is not Aboriginal culture – it is what happens to Aboriginal culture if grown men are paid not to work.
Toomelah needs jobs. If they are not there then all the patch-up social and infrastructure solutions will not work.
Matt
30 May 12 at 3:15 pm
Are we really getting to see Chicago politics at its worst by the way the convicted domestic terrorist Kimberlin and his crew have been acting (using Soros / Hollywood money)?
Token
30 May 12 at 3:16 pm
Dot
That is one of the best ever scenes in any movie. it was masterful.
Trust me, there were true to life scenes like that in trading rooms particularly when there was an arsehole client coming through the sales desk and ripping off a trader’s profit for the day.
JC
30 May 12 at 3:17 pm
received from Galileo and well worth listening to – Alan Jones talking about the carbon tax with Marc Morano
http://podcasts.mrn.com.au.s3.amazonaws.com/alanjones/20120530-aj-morano.mp3
val majkus
30 May 12 at 3:18 pm
Alan Jones asks ‘Are these people dumb or dishonest or both?”
val majkus
30 May 12 at 3:18 pm
John
Told ya.
Peter Patton
30 May 12 at 3:21 pm
According to this article in the Australian migration to WA from outside Australia is already five times greater than interstate migration.
WA is already sourcing its workforce from overseas and now sections of the union movement want to put the stoppers on it.
Matt
30 May 12 at 3:21 pm
JC
@ “I also think that things will get pretty ugly when the Kenyan loses…”
You’ve seen the lynch-mob reaction over ‘poor Trayvon’ – can you imagine what is going to happen if The One doesn’t get re-elected ?
Pray for an early onset, bitter winter in November – to discourage too many street assemblies of the Outraged.
Myrrdin Seren
30 May 12 at 3:23 pm
Peter,
Yep, so I’m glad I never bothered too much with that side of things(saved by my behaviorist inclined cynicism towards much of modern psychology). More interested in the molecular stuff. Just today came up with a long set of associations between GABA insufficiency and a wide range of neuropathologies, autism, Tourette’s, brain injury,MethA abuse, tinnitus. Very strange, for some reason across a wide range of neuropathologies GABA is down regulated. Can’t make sense of it. Sent email to a GABA dude in the USA so I hope he has some insight.
John H.
30 May 12 at 3:29 pm
Between weekly Cat lessons, revision for SfB here
Myrrdin Seren
30 May 12 at 3:33 pm
long set of associations between GABA insufficiency and…tinnitus
That is interesting. Must read up on this.
Gab
30 May 12 at 3:39 pm
More hysterical predictions of race riots from the Catellaxetards. Yawn.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 3:39 pm
Lol
Do we recall how various catellaxetards, Kates most prominent among them, were predicting disaster for the Pres in the Tx primary?
Well Barry got 88% of the vote in Texas in a meaningless vote.
Mittens meanwhile got less than 69% in his race.
Clearly dems are happier with their candidate than GOP is with theirs.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 3:43 pm
Lester
Where did antone mention race riots when the Kenyan suffers defeat in November?
Show us?
What I was actually thinking was an escalation of OWS crowd and their supporters. And by the way, the thugs who were found planning bombings in Washington State were white.
You need to get off the race shit for a while as you seem to obsess about it.
JC
30 May 12 at 3:44 pm
Burke to overrule states
Water Minister Tony Burke has vowed he will press ahead with a plan to rescue the ailing Murray-Darling river system this year even if it means brushing aside states that refuse to sign up.
We’re going to suffer this “environmental flows” nonsense, like it or not.
DavidLeyonhjelm
30 May 12 at 3:49 pm
Facebook closes below 29 bucks. What a roasting. 24% off the issue price.
I reckon a 1/3 at 25 1/3 20 1/3 15 or so. That puts it down to 40 times earnings!
JC
30 May 12 at 3:50 pm
Graeme says that the replacement of Paul McCartney with a Paul-clone in 1967 was “worse than the SS”.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 3:59 pm
Actually sorry, since it was Graeme he said the Paul hoax was “worse THEN the SS”.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 4:02 pm
But is the Paul-clone worse then Keelhaul?
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 4:03 pm
FIFO workers live in camps cause there are no towns near the sites. Most would revolt if forced to live in a crappy overpriced town when you can live wherever you like.
New projects also build there own airfields to save on travel time, flying in jets twice a day.
The majority of commentators on FIFO dont know what they are talking about.
Woolfe
30 May 12 at 4:04 pm
From some Legal Eagles on the Roy Hill EMA decision, that I was not aware of previously:
The project will be able to sponsor up to 1,715 workers for the three-year construction phase through the 457 visa program where Australians cannot be found to fill the positions. The EMA covers occupations such as electricians, mechanical fitters, scaffolders, and boilermakers.
‘As part of the EMA, Roy Hill is required to provide up to 2,000 training places for Australians (apprenticeships, traineeships and job readiness programs for indigenous Australians) and invest in excess of A$20 million in training Australians in a variety of programs.
Subcontractors will be able to sponsor workers by signing up to template labour agreements that will sit under the EMA.’
And this is supposed to be some sort of oppressive labour scheme ?
Myrrdin Seren
30 May 12 at 4:09 pm
Myrrdin, did you see the write up from Janet A in The Oz about this project today?
(you know the woman Latham called a skanky ho with the approval of Gillard, Roxon, Plibersek, Albo and the rest of the Labor front bench).
Token
30 May 12 at 4:13 pm
Breaking…
Thompson suicide shock outside Parliament House:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6820/thommoonfire.jpg
C.L.
30 May 12 at 4:13 pm
“We cannae ha’ nee foreen wukas.”
H B Bear
30 May 12 at 4:16 pm
Spot on H B!
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 4:20 pm
Dynamite stuff – the mole has just returned from ‘the hill’ and stated that the backbenchers are ‘sh*tting themselves’ about the fallout post 1 July (air tax).
Several scenarios raised, including a deferral, which would require the assistance of the libs.
“Once it’s in, the process can’t be undone”…
Joy.
Rabz
30 May 12 at 4:20 pm
“Next – how to fill out a betting slip”
Then – how to set a rabbit trap.
Pickles
30 May 12 at 4:24 pm
FFS – two years of floods.
.
30 May 12 at 4:26 pm
JC.
FB has an intrinsic value of $4 if they are not bullshitting anyone. Global Crossing, World Com ring a bell?
Even if they aren’t bullshitting, these internet firms are like mines with unknown reserves, mine lives and extraction rates.
They ought to be penny dreadfuls.
.
30 May 12 at 4:35 pm
Wow, didn’t 97% of Age cricket writers tell us the science was settled on this…
Token
30 May 12 at 4:36 pm
It’s revenue growth and followed by earnings like it was for google, Dot.
Facebook can’t end up like Global crossing and world com because it doesn’t have any debt whereas those two did. Loads of it.
JC
30 May 12 at 4:38 pm
Might explain why the ball seems to swing more in England.
Austin Powers was unavailable for comment…
Rabz
30 May 12 at 4:42 pm
Lizzie, did you notice a woman saying that the government should do something about it “because they put us out here”?
blogstrop
30 May 12 at 4:47 pm
No divvy. What cashflow? DOOM, DOOM I TELLS YA!
That actually might be a reason why it is doomed. No debt – no Carl Icahn to step in, Zuck has too much power. Actually it looks like they have a bit of debt to me but perhaps it’s so very small it doesn’t matter. Sales is way less then cash pre IPO (thumbs down) Net income is a lot more then debt (thumbs up).
Government Motors thinks advertising on FB does bugger all for them and they’ve pulled out.
.
30 May 12 at 4:50 pm
I would like to see Shagger Thomson be driven ‘self harm’ the way a former NSW Lib leader did. Give himself a paper cut and then call emergency services?
Or perhaps he might unsuccessfully hang himself with a tie in the ladies’ room?
What a punchable c***
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 4:51 pm
Rabbit traps? Why would I want to trap a rabbit?
I would like to keep one as a pet. Maybe there is chance with Campbell Newman of revoking the law that prevents it in Queensland.
The last time I was in Pinkenba, we saw a wild one near the road.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 4:52 pm
One bunny observing another, Steve.
areff
30 May 12 at 4:56 pm
Tony Burke should give a speech next to a river if he is worried about environmental flows. If we could get him to recite “suffering succotash” a few times it’d flood.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 4:56 pm
Oh good Lord! What did you say to make him angry?
Gab
30 May 12 at 4:58 pm
On the other hand, Craig Thomson’s apparent resilience could be taken as a lesson in psychological strength for all of those people who are feeling depressed when the world seems to just be getting too much for them.
I choose to see the glass half full…
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 4:59 pm
Thomson’s failure to neck himself is another broken promise by this terrible government.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 5:03 pm
The only animal I have ever exterminated with a firearm was a Rabbit. In fact the little critters were so thick on the ground a good aim with the 12 gauge could take out two at once.
Rabbits are the original and largest environmental disaster in Australia. Worse than any other environmental issue that has occurred before or since they were introduced into the Mornington Peninsular by an idiot toff who thought they would make a nice addition to his estate. They should be summarily exterminated wherever found.
brc
30 May 12 at 5:04 pm
Anyone catch the sensationalist ALP and Greens funded nonsense on Ch 10 about making a deal with the ASP NSW to sell off power plants?
What a bigoted crock of shit.
.
30 May 12 at 5:04 pm
Thomson’s apparent resilience is because he is an accomplished BS artist with no conscience or morals. You will only see a sociopathic liar like him break down when all his power and status are removed, as surely will be the case. And even then, he’ll comfort himself in a layer of rage that everyone else is responsible for his predicament.
brc
30 May 12 at 5:07 pm
Why punish success? If they’re successful creatures leave them be within reason.
If the lazy “original owners” can’t compete with rabbits , then fuck’em, evolution says they don’t deserve to make it.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:09 pm
Evolution is too slow to keep up with invading species. And we don’t allow natural predators to stalk the land and take care of the rabbits.
Rabbits are a threat to agriculture. They are a threat to humans way of life. That’s why they should die in this country.
brc
30 May 12 at 5:12 pm
jtfsoon
Are you making light of depression leading to self-harm and suicide? If so you a disgusting excuse for a human being
steve
30 May 12 at 5:12 pm
.
But evolution didn’t put them here, dumb-ass, people did
steve
30 May 12 at 5:14 pm
The JC University School of Environment: JC’s address to students on day 1 “It’s very simple – they’ll sort it themf***ingselves”
Day 2: “Congratulations Graduates!”
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 5:16 pm
No, we put them here and we’re part of the evolutionary process. All of it is, you fucking moron. Even our technological advancement is part and parcel of evolution.
That’s the trouble with most of the leftwingers that visit the site. You’re all basically stupid and unable to think.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:17 pm
Calm down, Steve. No one wants Thomson to kill himself. We’d just like him to maybe feel some shame. Some bowel emptying in a public forum shame. Furthermore we hope his wife doesn’t catch herpes or some other terribly infectious disease from Craig’s depraved lifestyle.
We care.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 5:17 pm
Lol. Don’t ya just love the leftie sneer that’s meant to illicit submission?
JC
30 May 12 at 5:18 pm
Oi!
Rabz
30 May 12 at 5:19 pm
Jesus Christ it isn’t funny to spike something mildly funny with concern trolling. What a sad lefty douche.
.
30 May 12 at 5:20 pm
Wow, JC on evolution. That would make an interesting University course.
steve
30 May 12 at 5:21 pm
Humans have always taken critters places. How are rabbits different to dingos? The Abos brought those miserable muts here.
Our animals are so incredibly boring, thanks again to the Aborigines – they wiped out all those giant wombats and stuff.
I call again for the introduction of elephants.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 5:21 pm
Craig Thompson should be treated with all the respect, compassion, forebearance and lack of venom that was shown to Sir John Kerr.
boy on a bike
30 May 12 at 5:22 pm
I am making light of all those people including Thomson himself who were melodramatically claiming that his ‘hounding’ was going to drive him to suicide, then up he bounces to play silly buggers in Parliament.
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 5:23 pm
And thanks to the Shooters Party, we’ll soon be allowed to exterminate vermin in National Parks in NSW.
That death threat only applies to pigs, rabbits, foxes, camels etc etc. Just in case there are any ANU scientists reading this blog.
boy on a bike
30 May 12 at 5:25 pm
No species is invading. They happened to have been helped on a boat and like other supported immigrants made well here. Raise a fucking glass to them, but don’t kill them because you think they’ve invaded. They haven’t invaded any place. If they can survive and prosper here they’re doing well.
And evolution is not slow, our evolution is actually accelerating if one includes technology and better use of resources.
Our GDP is accelerating.
Then introduce other species. Our flora and fauna is ratshit boring anyways.
I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t cull the little bastards, but don’t hate them for their success at making it in a far off land. That’s what people like Shane Wand and the Lying slapper do.
Oh Bullshit. Don’t over dramatize it.
Please.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:25 pm
I don’t give a shit about Thompson, though as stated I would not want to him to be moved to self harm. Perhaps I quoted too much. The offensive part was: “driven ‘self harm’ the way a former NSW Lib leader did. Give himself a paper cut and then call emergency services? “. As if Brogden’s act was a bit of nothing. That’s why it was a question: Are you making light of depression leading to self-harm and suicide?
Perhaps jtfsoon would care to answer.
steve
30 May 12 at 5:29 pm
We should kill rabbits because they are tasty.
The end.
.
30 May 12 at 5:29 pm
steve,
You are a really talented pedant who is frequently wrong and a first class concern troll.
We envy you.
.
30 May 12 at 5:30 pm
There is much excellent tiger country here too. And It’s damn shame we don’t have monkeys and bears either.
I’d also like the squirrel to be reintroduced. I still maintain there are plenty of them in suburban Melbourne, but apparently I was rather drunk.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 5:31 pm
We should kill rabbits because they are tasty.
And possums. But because they’re tasty.
And only those overrunning the ‘burbs in gangs.
Gab
30 May 12 at 5:32 pm
JC
30 May 12 at 5:33 pm
That is interesting. Must read up on this.
Sorry Gab but that won’t help you. Loss of GABA in the MGN remains a mystery but I did receive an excellent reply from the GABA dude which may help me sort this out. Remarkable chap, his work on demonstrating neurotransmitter diffusion from synapses is brilliant.
Don’t hold too much hope but you could try Ginkgo(do not take with aspirin or any blood thinners!). Also try some magnesium supplements. Mg is frequently used for aural trauma and prolonged supplementation is worth thinking about, especially given evidence of widespread insufficiency.
1. Neuropsychiatr Dis Treat. 2011;7:441-7. Epub 2011 Jul 28.
Ginkgo biloba extract in the treatment of tinnitus: a systematic review.
von Boetticher A.
Ear, Nose and Throat Surgery, Lueneburg, Germany.
Tinnitus is a symptom frequently encountered by ear, nose, and throat practitioners. A causal treatment is rarely possible, and drug and nondrug treatment options are limited. One of the frequently prescribed treatments is Ginkgo biloba extract. Therefore, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trials of Ginkgo biloba extract preparations were searched for and reviewed systematically. There is evidence of efficacy for the standardized extract, EGb 761(®) (Dr Willmar Schwabe GmbH & Co KG Pharmaceuticals, Karlsruhe, Germany), in the treatment of tinnitus from three trials in patients in whom tinnitus was the primary complaint. Supportive evidence comes from a further five trials in patients with age-associated cognitive impairment or dementia in whom tinnitus was present as a concomitant symptom. As yet, the efficacy of other ginkgo preparations has not been proven, which does not necessarily indicate ineffectiveness, but may be due to flawed clinical trials. In conclusion, EGb 761(®), a standardized Ginkgo biloba extract, is an evidence-based treatment option in tinnitus.
PMCID: PMC3157487 PMID: 21857784 [PubMe
1. Int Tinnitus J. 2010;16(2):168-73.
Phase 2 study examining magnesium-dependent tinnitus.
Cevette M, Barrs D, Patel A, Conroy K, Sydlowski S, Nelson B, Stepanek J.
Background: Recent studies in noise-induced and idiopathic sensorineural hearing loss have suggested that magnesium supplementation may lessen both hearing loss and the severity of tinnitus in patients. Further epidemiological evidence indicates that all age groups of Americans fall short of the recommended daily allowance for magnesium by 100 mg daily. Purpose: The purpose of this study was to examine any potential benefit in lessening the severity of tinnitus in patients taking supplemental magnesium. Research Design: The study was a single-arm, open-label, before-and-after study of oral magnesium (532 mg per day) in 26 patients for 3 months. Tinnitus severity was evaluated and recorded daily by the patient using the Tinnitus Distress Rating (TDR) scale of 0 (no tinnitus) to 10 (worst possible tinnitus). The Tinnitus Handicap Inventory (THI) was administered before and at the end of the study, and scores were converted to the grades of the 5-item Tinnitus Severity Scale (TSS). The purpose of this phase 2 study was to investigate whether the treatment was effective at all, and, as such, a placebo control was not performed. All data were collected at Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona, between March 6 and December 10, 2008. Study Sample: Patients with moderate to very severe tinnitus (TDR score of 3 through 8). Intervention: Daily magnesium supplementation, 532 mg; patient completion of the THI; and daily self-report of TDR. Data Collection and Analysis: The main outcome measures were mean TDR scale scores and THI scores as converted to TSS grades. The primary analysis was done on the basis of intention to treat. Results: Twenty-six patients were enrolled; 19 completed the study. The extent of handicap, as measured by THI/TSS, for subjects with slight or greater impairment was significantly decreased (P=.03). Patients who ranked slight or greater on the THI/TSS before intervention showed a significant decrease in the severity of their tinnitus at post-testing (P=.008). Conclusion:The results suggest that magnesium may have a beneficial effect on perception of tinnitus-related handicap when scored with the THI.
PMID: 22249877 [PubMed - in process]
John H.
30 May 12 at 5:33 pm
Steve – you got an answer. Don’t push it.
Sinclair Davidson
30 May 12 at 5:33 pm
JC, you should stick to what you know (not sure what that is).
Of course feel free to make up your own definition
steve
30 May 12 at 5:34 pm
They’d fucking love it up north. Bring’em over. Why not, FFS.
My favorite are cheetahs. They’d give the roos a freaking run for their money dinner.
What a gorgeous freaking animal.
And we’d be helping them survive too as their genetic pool is very narrow most likely caused by the previous glacials that left perhaps a family to interbreed from what I read.
Raising them here would, over time widen the gene pool.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:34 pm
Thank you, John H, for those reports which I shall read later, in full. Appreciate your time and input on the matter.
Gab
30 May 12 at 5:36 pm
Don’t push what Sinclair? This is an open forum. Hard to know how I can “derail” the thread.
steve
30 May 12 at 5:36 pm
I call for an open borders animal policy and a ban on European immigration.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 5:37 pm
That’s exactly the same definition I apply to leftarded “ideas”. But I don’t suggest a cull though.
Look dickhead. The entire process is evolution. And invasive species is another way of referring to success.
Fuck off steve. Enough of you for today. You bore me.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:37 pm
I’ve already identified what I was ‘making light’ of, you hysteric. I don’t know how else to assist you. You might not give a toss about Shagger Thomson but the barb was directed at Shagger Thomson.
jtfsoon
30 May 12 at 5:38 pm
I may have over-sensitised Sinclair to “steve’s”, steve.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 5:38 pm
JC, you fascinate me. A man who can know so much and know so little at the same time.
steve
30 May 12 at 5:38 pm
Rhino too.
lotocoti
30 May 12 at 5:39 pm
and so endeth Prof. Jc’s lecture on evolution for today.
Gab
30 May 12 at 5:40 pm
Yep, Cheetahs are cool.
Rabz
30 May 12 at 5:40 pm
yeah, he gets that all the time.
Gab
30 May 12 at 5:41 pm
Thanks jtfsoon. A bit of a timing problem there. I posted my response before I saw your answer. I must learn to ignore the moronic responses from JC and dot. I agree with you about Thompson – his “self-harm” pseudo threat itself is fairly offensive.
steve
30 May 12 at 5:45 pm
IT
This will send you batshit crazy. I yelled at the dude.
My family recently hired a young straight of the boat Greek kid at the family bus. Nice kid and all. He’s there with them for a short time as he’s a dietician by trade and wants to move into that area eventually with certification and English proficiency etc..
He has a peculiar pedigree and i would imagine like a lot of Greeks. His parents moved back to Greece and because his ma was an Greek extraction Aussie born citizen he’s was entitled to automatic citizenship.
Anyways I got to talking to him and he seems very politicized. He was telling me he was joining the Greens and would vote for them! He’s way not interested in the ALP even.
The fucker hasn’t been off the boat for 3 months and he’s straight to the Greens.
So your theory and mine looks like it needs to be carried out by the Libs. Ban all Euroweenie immigration. Even pretend Aussie citizens.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:46 pm
Some people are complaining about foxes in Sydney.
Elephants and cheetahs are ok but lets hear it for the warthogs! Like little rhinos.
Poor Old Rafe
30 May 12 at 5:47 pm
Yea Rafe. I kind like Warthogs too for their sheer ugliness.
And get the hippos over up north too. They would cull a large number of German and Swiss tourists.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:50 pm
Eagles. Lots of eagles. They’d take care of the possum and fox explosion.
Gab
30 May 12 at 5:50 pm
You don’t, so fuck off steve. I’m a perfectly contented hetro and a one woman man, so save your breath dipstick.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:51 pm
What is with the possessive apostrophe used to denote a plural, Steve? Sheesh. Not a good look.
James in Melbourne
30 May 12 at 5:52 pm
Damn Ipad.
JC
30 May 12 at 5:53 pm
It doesn’t right without an apostrophe somewhere, James.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 5:55 pm
doesn’t look right….
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 5:55 pm
Are you freaking kidding me? We are reaping the whirlwind.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 5:56 pm
Approximately 17% of Catallaxy posts are iPad corrections.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 5:56 pm
Hah. The poor man’s Malcolm Tucker that Jules brought over to be her chief of staff/pitbull journo-abuser (for those not of the Love Media persuasion, that is) came in on the same kind of visa that she is now “furious” about when used in a mining situation by Gina Rinehart.
You could not make it up.
James in Melbourne
30 May 12 at 5:58 pm
Oh yes,
And why stop at animals ( rabbit, cats, cane toads) let’s not discriminate.
How about plants, insects, viruses and fishes.
If the Cane toads can avoid the fire ants and carp in amongst the rubber vine without contracting a cross between avian flu/foot n mouth/hendra.
We have a great asset, may cane toad exports be the next BOOM for Oz.
(Bloody Chinese will probably beat us to it)
{sarc off}
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 6:06 pm
AGE, SMH journos walk out for 36-hour strike to protest offshored production.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/fairfax-journalists-vote-to-go-on-strike-20120530-1zj7p.html
areff
30 May 12 at 6:09 pm
Dude, they’re not going to end up in the ALP stable. They’re going to be greens supporters preferencing the ALP. That’s how bad it could turn out.
We’re importing a freaking disaster.
JC
30 May 12 at 6:11 pm
We have, and how badly off are you?
Forget carp, what about the Atlantic salmon and char you’re paying 30 bucks a kilo for or whatever it is.
JC
30 May 12 at 6:13 pm
“AGE, SMH journos walk out for 36-hour strike to protest offshored production.”
for some reason I don’t find a strike by journalists very troubling. in fact, i’ve never heard of such a thing.
candy
30 May 12 at 6:18 pm
I love it. Sub-editing has been outsourced to New Zealand. Careful with the vowels bro!
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 6:20 pm
It’s gorgeous in its simplicity.
Hey fellas, don’t rush back. No need to as you won’t be missed much.
JC
30 May 12 at 6:21 pm
Fucking best Drudge headline ever.
‘BATH SALTS’ TRIGGERED SOUTH BEACH CANNIBAL
JC
30 May 12 at 6:26 pm
JC, i recon your just playing round with this but fair dink, Fiji disease cost as the best type of sugar cane.
We need to keep fire blite out, citrus canker(too late) ,invasive plants…..
Fuck it… here and here
It’s seriously expensive shit mate.
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 6:31 pm
Jump
How much of the stuff have we really “kept out” Seriously.
We haven’t kept a thing out we wanted to. And I’m not kidding either.
JC
30 May 12 at 6:34 pm
John
I’d never thought about the possibility that ‘proven’ research results (in any field) might be shown to be shonky years later. I don’t know if it was you, or somebody else, who alerted me to a book (or article), full of scientists who had realized later in life that all their earlier experimental results were wrong. Creepy stuff. Either way, whenever I read somebody whose qualifications are PhD (Psychology) banging on about social stuff in Psychology journals – a la that Haidt fraud – I reach for my revolver
Peter Patton
30 May 12 at 6:38 pm
What’s that disease that effects bananas? We should import that – once our own crops are vanquished, we can start getting the cheap bananas from overseas, and stop overpaying (especially after the cyclones we get every few years).
Fleeced
30 May 12 at 6:43 pm
Fresh Food People
Sugar Bannanas $6.99/kg, today.
Rudiau
30 May 12 at 6:46 pm
I don’t know if it was you, or somebody else, who alerted me to a book (or article), full of scientists who had realized later in life that all their earlier experimental results were wrong. Creepy stuff
Peter,
Common, it is why years ago I stated that for the most part I only reference studies less than a decade old. This is a good strategy for medical research but obviously in other fields there are classics that one should always read. There is no easy answer to this problem. In an age when so many are claiming big breakthroughs and when the research on research clearly indicates unacceptably high error rates, we should treat every new finding as suspect.
The majority of research is falsified over time. People like to think that cutting edge research is all logic and experiment. Guff. It is a lot of thrashing about in the dark hoping to stumble upon a door leading to light. So today I stumbled upon a GABA door but could not open it until a GABA dude gave me the key a few hours ago. Neuro types always neglect GABA but as the email stated GABA synapses constitute 45% of all synapse in the CNS but GABA neurons only constitute 10% of the total. So the loss of a few GABA neurons is much more significant than the loss of many glutamate neurons. There are even studies indicating that a single GABA neuron can entrain thousands of pyramidal neurons.
John H.
30 May 12 at 6:52 pm
Get together in Toowoomba.
What day suits who? Email me via my blog. End of week is good for me, Friday if poss, but it should be OK any day (only 40 mins from home yippee!).
kae
30 May 12 at 6:52 pm
Yeah, how come the fire blight ravaged New Zealand apple orchards can produce much higher yielding crops of better quality than their Aussie cousins? And at a lower price, and have an export market, which inexplicably fire blight free Aussie orchardists never managed?
Entropy
30 May 12 at 6:54 pm
We’re losing the battle, I admit, through massive underfunding of AQIS. The NBN (redundant in ten years) loot spent on protecting our unique agricultural advantages of being geographically isolated to provide envious, disease restricted countries with that will be hungry for produce that we grow in abundance.
And no-one can tell me the currant scare in pollinating bees (believed to be imported )is a good thing.
(sorry for delay, a must take phone call)
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 7:19 pm
My back yard.
Cavendish bananas, cost; a bucket of horse shit.
Disease free.
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 7:25 pm
Entropy
I’m not calling BS on that but can you please show me .
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 7:31 pm
Rudiau
30 May 12 at 7:32 pm
Sorry, Myrrdin @3.33 The Art of Manliness doesn’t have The Spearhead on its blogroll so it can’t be masculine enough.
nilk
30 May 12 at 7:36 pm
Lefty icon and Walkley Award winner Julian Assange loses appeal in UK Supreme Court – will be extradited to Swedan to be tried for rape.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 7:38 pm
Mal Brough says there was no outrage in MSM, nor in Blogs (on 7.30 right now).
Mal, I was OUTRAGED on Catallaxy. Please, lefties get out of the way and let someone DO something.
Children are living in Concentration Camps, where thugs rape five year olds freely. This is Australia, FFS.
Mal Brough lost his seat. Where are the MSM on this issue now???
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 7:42 pm
Rudiau
30 May 12 at 7:42 pm
He calls it Apartheit. He is right.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 7:43 pm
Bloody hell Kae, Toowoomba? When? See if I can make it.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 7:49 pm
OK, so now we have a piece from Ewart, first out of the door please Abbott when you get in, on how terrible all of the name-calling in Parliament is. No MSM analysis of what is really going on. If there is ‘public hostility’ and ‘bitterness’ out in the street, then it is perhaps worth asking why people are so upset with their CURRENT government.
This is a disgraceful government with a disgraceful mainstream media. We need to say it constantly, louder and clearer and bring more people in to say it.
Oh Gawd, not the Tanya piece on its all sexism etc.
Go away, you silly bitch.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 7:51 pm
Lizzie I think they have forgotten the Howard years,cause everyone was,you know, so nice then
Tal
30 May 12 at 7:58 pm
Mal Brough says there was no outrage in MSM, nor in Blogs (on 7.30 right now).
Yes Liz but I was pleased to see he was pushing the same line as myself: children first, culture second(see my earlier comments). The subtext is the same as mine too: abandon the remote communities idea. Bloody stupid idea.
Methinks I might try my luck with the angle I was working on a few weeks ago …. .
John H.
30 May 12 at 8:03 pm
Larry Pickering’s a hoot. His tongue’s firmly in his cheek on this one, the old stirrer.
Just call him ‘Ook’s uncle’.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 May 12 at 8:09 pm
Yep, John, Nuggett Coombes’ Rousseauian fantasy did aboriginal people no service whatsoever.
These ‘communities’ need to be disbanded, removed, transferred etc. Choose your verb. They are merely nightmare environments for women and children, children particularly. Also, hopeless environments for testosterone-fuelled young men.
There are no real ‘elders’, no culture, no significant traditions or memories left. Let it go.
Mal Brough is a lovely human being. I said to the Ape that if I wasn’t busy I would marry him. He replied that Mal’s wife is hot too. High praise from us both.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 8:19 pm
Geez on offhand remark about shooting rabbits circles around to bananas again?
I don’t know why people get up in arms about banana protectionism which costs them about 20 bucks a year, and they don’t say zip about car industry protectionism that costs them about 5-10k per car, and much more than that if the value of the car goes up. A bit of perspective people.
brc
30 May 12 at 8:22 pm
Cut them all off, cancerous leeches they all are.
.
30 May 12 at 8:24 pm
We do on both BRC vigorously, vociferously. You haven’t been here that long or you’re being silly trying to prove some sort of point.
Go through the entire site and i will pay you 1,000 bucks for each thread that has ever supported protectionism here.
Go!
JC
30 May 12 at 8:27 pm
Well it’s done then. The Kenyan wins in November.
It’s written in stars.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/astrologers-celestial-charts-favor-obama-over-romney-215912482.html
JC
30 May 12 at 8:28 pm
JC
What I find really amusing and almost makes me want to spew is the fact that LinkedIn is still trading at multiples of 950+ and poor old FB is down to a PE of 60.
It’s a travesty.
.
30 May 12 at 8:30 pm
Yeah lol
.
30 May 12 at 8:30 pm
A dingo trap then.
Pickles
30 May 12 at 8:39 pm
49!
Good to see you. I was worried that you had been banned or moderated for your outburst this morning.
What you wrote was wiped before I could read it, but by all accounts it was quite an embarrassing display for all concerned, and for you in particular of course.
The words “drama queen” were used to describe your performance. [Sigh. Is it too much to ask that everyone keep calm. You have no idea what sort of spam this attracts. Sinc]
I am sure what you wrote was most illuminating of your views and your, uh, mindset on certain issues and I’m sorry I missed it.
I hope you have calmed down a bit since your antics this morning. But it’s good to have you back.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 8:39 pm
But not you of course for accusing people of racism over that incident discussed earlier.
Tell us, Lester, why is he worse than you are when it was obvious that the accusation of racism was a blatant slander.
Why are you better then him?
JC
30 May 12 at 8:42 pm
We don’t need any Sloths imported. There are already enough of them inhabiting Canberra.
Splatacrobat
30 May 12 at 8:42 pm
White House: Obama misspoke on ‘Polish death camp’.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 8:48 pm
Gillard at the minerals Council now, droning on in that patronising voice. Quite different to the shrieking she carries on with in QT.
Gab
30 May 12 at 8:52 pm
I am better THAN him JC. You’ve been hanging out at birds too much.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 8:55 pm
Bird’s.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 8:58 pm
Dude, who the fuck knows what’s going on. I have this website with a algorithm which is fucking outstanding in giving over bought/ oversold signals. At 25, 20 and 15 Facefuckbook is an outstanding trade I reckon. Not an investment, but a trade. It would be great to see it down there and then see the shorts getting their faces ripped off South beach style.
JC
30 May 12 at 9:00 pm
mk50 made blatantly racist statements. Everyone needs to just accept that and move on. Why people defend him is incomprehensible.
Adam Kane
30 May 12 at 9:00 pm
Why would I need to accept it Adam, as I have no idea what the fuck he said, although I wouldn’t put it past him.
And why the need and direction from you to move on Mr school marm?
JC
30 May 12 at 9:03 pm
Not “racist”, Kane. Outright defamation if you ask me.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 9:04 pm
Nobody asked you. Nobody ever will.
Gab
30 May 12 at 9:04 pm
Nyuk. Nyuk. Nyuk.
Gab Hulk. Steve from Brisbane Loki.
Sinclair Davidson
30 May 12 at 9:07 pm
I did too today about “wogball”. Do you want to give me a dressing down?
.
30 May 12 at 9:08 pm
Mimi the ironing lady drops in to make sure she’s able to get a kick in pitching herself behind the others in between a load.
JC
30 May 12 at 9:08 pm
I love this place.
.
30 May 12 at 9:09 pm
Gab Hulk. Steve from Brisbane Loki.
Heh.
Gab
30 May 12 at 9:11 pm
JC
Lay off the bath salts and the spelling ought to improve.
.
30 May 12 at 9:11 pm
It was Jason who was the first to point that out. Hard to see how he was wrong.
I assume Sinclair is relying on something equivalent to the 5 second rule for food dropped on the kitchen floor.
Problem is, it got to about 3 hours today.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 9:12 pm
I’m sure he has nothing better to do, such as ironing or seam mopping the hallway. You muppet.
.
30 May 12 at 9:13 pm
jason pointed it out, Steve, once. Why are you going on and on about it now?
Gab
30 May 12 at 9:13 pm
Steve – its called having other things to do. It got deleted when I saw it.
Sinclair Davidson
30 May 12 at 9:15 pm
Go easy on Steve, I’m tutoring him. His constant questions about “where does semen go” are annoying but I believe we are moving in a righteous direction.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 9:16 pm
Kae, Toowoomba, are you serious? That’s a hell of a cab fare.
It’s also kinda cold up there
CraigS
30 May 12 at 9:17 pm
i tend to doubt that MK / PP would get a look in on any forum apart from here, so Professor Davidson is a kind and tolerant person letting those dude(s) express themselves on line about stuff they would probably never be able to say face to face but only under cover of a screen name.
candy
30 May 12 at 9:19 pm
Peter Phelps who was quite good on Baywatch and is now the NSW Govt Whip has an excellent Twitter account.
He quoted Hayek and Friedman in the NSW Parliament last week which must have seen a few rushing to organise an exorcism.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 9:21 pm
Sinclair: I assumed you would delete it when you saw it. But honest to God, Mk50 has form on this, and the level of rebuke he cops seems disproportionately mild for the legal trouble he potentially attracts.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 9:22 pm
I’m not sure those two concepts should have been placed in the same sentence.
badm0f0
30 May 12 at 9:24 pm
Huh ha. I never saw it, but all I’ve seen you commenting on it all day. You seem excited.
I assume it was equally as slanderous as his Marr’s comments attacking Gina about her family interactions, like he’s personally plugged in to the intimate goings on.
You leftwing shitheads fucking disgust me at times. It appeared from the various reports that Gina is tight with the money but nowhere near as tight as made out. If a kid lives in New York as hers does and is complaining she would like a cook, I’m not sure how hard done by they are.
If the kids rolled around with hundred’s of millions, Marr and mimi-the-ironing-lady would be out there talking up a storm on how the country needs da gift and death tax using them as exhibit A. However being tighter then that, Marr and the cohort of ugly gargoyles attack her for not giving them enough.
Fisk is right. You lot mimi, pollute and lower the conversation to the lowest form and there is no need to ever discuss anything with you. Hopefully with the advent of the Finkelstien laws the lying slapper introduces we can use them to put a stop to most of the crap being tossed about for at least a decade.
Fuck off.
JC
30 May 12 at 9:26 pm
oh dear.
Infidel Tiger
30 May 12 at 9:30 pm
Woolfe
Chat on ABC Brisbane last night about FIFO and how it kills the towns near the mines.
Idiots hadn’t heard of FBT which is what killed mining towns.
kae
30 May 12 at 9:31 pm
LOL Steve bitches out Sinclair for leaving a comment up for three hours.
But Steve hasn’t done a tax return since 1998.
He’s got form when it comes to tardiness.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 9:34 pm
I certainly don’t think 49 should be banned. Sure, he talks about (gay) sex a lot, as does Patton for that matter, but Steve talks about smutty stuff a lot too.
All of them are enormously entertaining.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 9:36 pm
Bloody hell. Channel 11 is showing the first episode of Futurama – again.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 9:40 pm
And just when you were planning to sit down and have a crack at your taxes, I bet?
You don’t have to justify your procrastination to us, Steve.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 9:42 pm
Jumpnmcar
30 May 12 at 7:31 pm
A comparative document I happen to have at hand is an old Hassells paper that is about ten years old now, so the actual figures would have changed around a fair bit. As a bonus it is online. Anyway, on page 81 there is a yield comparison chart has the 1999 yield per ha of NZ at 46.1 compared with Australia 15.6
The paper has NZ as the world’s second most efficient producer behind Austria. We do OK, but are rubbish compared to NZ.
I would hope in the last ten years we have lifted our game. A good sign is that you hardly see delicious varieties in the supermarket anymore, but plenty of gala and pink lady, which of course export oriented NZ moved to much more quickly.
Anyway the point is that while we do not want fireblight if it can be avoided as it would increase the cost of production, it would not be the end of the world, as the actual end of the world that already has fireblight still manages to do very well. The quarantine ban allows our producers to get away with being less efficient than their cousins across the Tasman, and reduces the welfare of our consumers.
Entropy
30 May 12 at 9:42 pm
I do hope Prometheus is good. Good, adult, spacefaring cinematic science fiction is pretty thin on the ground these days.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 9:46 pm
So why do you care care, Stevie? Surely you’d like us all destroyed? Guess if you didn’t have the Cat you’d be lost and have to suffer the insufferability of Crikey and such, or lordy, lordy, back to your own blog.
Or are you some sort of political Salvationist, after our souls in the denizens of darkness?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 May 12 at 9:47 pm
There is a select subgroup of passengers who I would invite to join me in the escape pod. (Don’t ask for details – refusal may offend.)
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 9:51 pm
Are you complaining about restrictions on your ability to make an idiot of yourself here? Sinc has been very generous and has risked legal retribution considering you are mentally underage.
Tom
30 May 12 at 9:56 pm
Bono shilling again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5CvlQLcyawg
coz
30 May 12 at 9:58 pm
JC
Might buy 100 FB tonight for a lark. It’ll pop sometime. Even GRPN popped before it resumed tanking.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 10:00 pm
It’s Bozo, coz, as in the clown.
Everyone will know who you mean.
Rabz
30 May 12 at 10:05 pm
Oops… *hic*
The pub was inundated in the January 2011 flood, now this! Poor bugger.
kae
30 May 12 at 10:11 pm
Victor Davis Hanson smacks another one over the fence:
http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/thoughts-on-the-rhine/
twostix
30 May 12 at 10:16 pm
kae
Parents can’t take a kid in a pram rugged up with them….they must go to bed when the kid does.
FFS who are these enfeebled retards?
.
30 May 12 at 10:19 pm
Mitt Romney, Keynesian?
Asks this article. I don’t think he’s endorsing government spending like this seems to be implying here, but as I’ve said before, economic growth and GDP that is made up of government spending isn’t growth nor real economic activity because growth and activity have to come from the private sector.
Alex Pundit
30 May 12 at 10:26 pm
I think the argument he’s making is that that while it may ‘reduce economic activity’ on the books and may do things like send the stock market’s head spinning, he’s not making it an endorsement of more spending.
Alex Pundit
30 May 12 at 10:29 pm
Yea Good luck Les. Hope you make out.
JC
30 May 12 at 10:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKPPtZFu1Q
coz
30 May 12 at 10:40 pm
Thanks JC
It’s a trade (which I don’t do much of) rather than an investment.
I reckon it’ll hit say $39 at some point in the near future at which point I’ll bail.
Les Majesty
30 May 12 at 10:46 pm
At the VDH article on Germany:
Token
30 May 12 at 11:01 pm
My goodness, this has been a huge day for threads on the Cat !
Myrddin Seren
30 May 12 at 11:08 pm
Because all the failed green “investments” in places such as the US have taught this inept obtuse government nothing.
Gab
30 May 12 at 11:24 pm
yep – 21,000 page views.
Sinclair Davidson
30 May 12 at 11:24 pm
Also, honey-badgers.
sdog
30 May 12 at 11:25 pm
Quite so.
5 Invasive Species You Should Be Eating
“On a visit to the Cayman Islands, PM Resident Contrarian Glenn Harlan Reynolds [Instapundit] discovered the ideal way to deal with the destructive, invasive lionfish plaguing the area: Eat them. It turns out that this solution is under way in other parts of the world too. Here are a few more invaders that are surprisingly delicious.”
sdog
30 May 12 at 11:27 pm
A truly great, great animal. Fearless.
JC
30 May 12 at 11:29 pm
how about a push me pull you ?
splatacrobat
30 May 12 at 11:31 pm
Honey badger don’t don’t care. Honey badger don’t give a shit.
sdog
30 May 12 at 11:32 pm
Honey badger don’t care. Honey badger don’t give a shit.
sdog
30 May 12 at 11:33 pm
“Scientists: Giant Cannibal Shrimp Invasion Growing.”
Oh, CNN.
sdog
30 May 12 at 11:36 pm
Surely no more impossible than it is for the Club Med countries lol.
“Angela Merkel proposes that ClubMed consumers with no money should stop spending money they don’t have, and use this imaginary money instead to pay the taxes she insists they must pay before any stimulus will be supplied in order to help the sort of growth with which they can then pay more taxes, which they must do before there is any spendthrift making or consuming of goods that would help their economies to grow…which of course they will, but only if they keep doing the tax lederhosen-slapping dance before any of that decadent retail rock’n’roll buying bop gets people up and grooving.”
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/crash-2-alchemy-aint-gonna-cut-it-matter-cannot-be-created-or-destroyed-57/
Viva
30 May 12 at 11:41 pm
Bugger.
Eurovision terror attack thwarted – claim.
C.L.
30 May 12 at 11:50 pm
Paul Krugman talks of England, and Europe:
Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman has attacked the government’s austerity policy as “deeply destructive”.
Speaking on Radio 4′s Today programme, he said the coalition’s plan was “failing dismally”. Instead of cutting spending the government should be increasing it by 2% of GDP, he added
“It is deeply destructive to pursue austerity in a depression,” said Krugman. “Give me a stronger economy and I’ll turn into a fiscal hawk. But not now”….
He said the UK had now entered a depression with almost 30% of unemployed people having been out of work for 52 weeks or more, compared with 9.5% in 2008.
On Europe, Krugman advised the Irish to vote against the fiscal compact, which will involve tighter, EU-imposed budget controls, in a referendum on Thursday. “European currency union was a mistake since the day the Maastricht treaty was signed,” he said.
steve from brisbane
30 May 12 at 11:52 pm
Steve, our lesson plan for tomorrow is for you to forget about economics – except for maybe home economics. You must also renounce Krugman. He’s the Flannery of that particular discipline.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 12:00 am
Poor old Mumble, still bagging all the dog turds on his lawn with his bare hands. Ugly ugly but someone has to do it.
Still looking for a Liars party leader to take them to victory.
JC
31 May 12 at 12:04 am
JC
What do you use a shovel for?
To remove dog turds and bury corpses.
.
31 May 12 at 12:06 am
If Monsanto was a woman, I’d ask for her hand in marriage. I just love this company and everything it does.
Course they impress.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2012/05/30/monsanto-hikes-outlook-as-seed-sales-impress/
JC
31 May 12 at 12:15 am
You just have to laugh at how fucking useless he is. Just useless.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-nazi-death-camp-gaffe-hurt-poles-pm-110505006.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CZgB8ZP_i0AndzQtDMD
Such an idiot. No wonder he gets on with the Lying Slapper.
JC
31 May 12 at 12:18 am
Color me surprised they’re back skulking around 2009 levels.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/05/30/bloomberg_articlesM4S1C76S972801-M4TZE.DTL#ixzz1wMYGisNd
JC
31 May 12 at 12:20 am
More on the Kenyan.
Lol
‘INSULTS 38 MILLION POLES’…
‘IGNORANCE AND INCOMPETENCE’…
JC
31 May 12 at 12:22 am
Appalling.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 2:29 am
Politico: Romney soon to have war chest of $1 billion +.
Let’s see you try to outspend this cold-hearted Mormon c—-t, Barry.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 2:34 am
JC: the implementation of the Fisk Doctrine (banning leftwing speech for a period of ten years) is becoming increasingly urgent, as leftist ideals have served only to whiteant our basic freedoms, with disastrous consequences.
In time, I think the decision to introduce the Fisk Doctrine in Australia will be revered in a manner similar to the way the Americans admire their Bill of Rights.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 3:38 am
No, only Leftists make racist remarks. You must stop pretending that anyone else is racist but Leftists. And, I’m afraid you might well fall within the 10-year speech ban the way you are going.
Fisky
31 May 12 at 3:42 am
The introduction of the Fisk Doctrine would be far and away the most important free speech legislation in this country’s history – and possibly the world’s, who would hopefully rush to emulate it. It would be the new keystone of liberty in Australia.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 3:46 am
Well, actually Hungary got there first more or less. PM Orban has done a very good job of cracking down on the Leftist media. But much more remains to be done.
Fisky
31 May 12 at 3:47 am
You’re right – Hungary has made an admirable effort, but I think much more sweeping legislation is required to battle this terrible scourge.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 3:49 am
Mornin y’all
Another outbreak of Hendra Virus in Qld.
Come on Campbell open season on bats, nothing but flying vermin.
Rudiau
31 May 12 at 7:13 am
For Rudiau: a Queensland Health pamphlet “Living with Flying Foxes“.
Really – given that the first bout of Hendra virus happened in Hendra, hardly the leafiest suburb in Brisbane and therefore far from the most bat infested part of the city, doesn’t this suggest that preventing Hendra virus outbreaks by culling flying foxes is not really likely to work?
I think it suggests that horses can just be unlucky. (And people shouldn’t put feed under trees).
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 8:24 am
Via Cut&Paste:
Gab
31 May 12 at 8:25 am
I don’t really care if it prevents Hendra virus – flying foxes are vermin and they should be removed from urban areas. Filthy, messy, stinky things …
Matt
31 May 12 at 8:29 am
Crickets…
Rabz
31 May 12 at 8:54 am
Obama: ‘I know more about Jews than any President in history.’
Jim Hoft:
C.L.
31 May 12 at 9:06 am
sfb, Yeah i see your point.
The culling (local council spraying) of mosquitoes has done absolutely nothing for the spread of Ross River fever,
Denque fever and Barmah Forest virus.
People are just unlucky they breathe out CO2 that attract them, I guess.
People just shouldn’t breathe, problem solved.
BTW Bats will fly up to 80km in a night. Your argument about distance from leafy suburbs is inane.
Rudiau
31 May 12 at 9:07 am
Rabz
31 May 12 at 9:08 am
“I think it suggests that horses can just be unlucky.”
A brisbane vet died of the virus in 2008. How unlucky for him.
candy
31 May 12 at 9:12 am
Great stuff:
Romney Surrogate Sununu Destroys Soledad O’Brien.
This is how you do it. You destroy them live to air.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 9:12 am
More easily accessible video: here.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 9:14 am
O’Bambi: I know more about American geography than anyone else in these 57 states.
sdog
31 May 12 at 9:14 am
Soledad often gets her comeuppance live on TV. It’s a wonder the bruises don’t show.
Gab
31 May 12 at 9:15 am
Obama: ‘I’m actually very Catholic, really.’
Daily Caller: Obama, the born-again Catholic.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 9:20 am
OMG you guys, STOP TALKING ABOUT SOLEDAD.
AGAIN.
sdog
31 May 12 at 9:20 am
Bolt on slipping moral standards and the consequences to society at large.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/slipping-moral-standards-bring-out-our-worst/story-e6frfifx-1226375600225
Gab
31 May 12 at 9:29 am
Sununu is great. He just destroys the stupid cow.
He’s supposed to have a genius iq fwiw.
Romney will keep using surrogates and stay above it all and act presidential.
Jc
31 May 12 at 9:43 am
The Kenyan’s campaign maanger came up with a very telling point in the piece James linked yesterday.
The Romney camp know how kill well.
Jc
31 May 12 at 9:46 am
Radiau – given that flying foxes can range 80 km a night, I would guess that no one has any real idea how far afield from Brisbane, and in what numbers, you would have to cull colonies to have an effect on Brisbane horses.
Humans have only caught the disease from horses.
There is a vaccine for horses on its way.
Problem solved without your unscientific knee jerk reaction.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 9:52 am
Judging by twitter, it took all of three days for the left to transform from oh so “sophisticated” comsmopolitan, high minded “intellectuals” into “Fuck of it’s Full” bogans.
I’ve never seen anything like it. The rhetoric of the left on twitter would be just at home in a One Nation party room. And it’s not just on the mining issue. Check this comment from an oh-so PC leftist female:
“Ethnics”?
twostix
31 May 12 at 9:56 am
A lot I guess Steve.
Perhaps they are tasty food?
Let’s try them with wine.
.
31 May 12 at 10:00 am
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/full-court-of-the-high-court-rules-elderly-man-must-face-trial-for-rape-in-marriage-allegations-dating-back-to-1963/story-e6frf7l6-1226374138321
Man must face trial for alleged rape in marriage in 1963.
Max
31 May 12 at 10:00 am
Rape in marriage is of course awful but what about retrospective laws?
“We’re gonna decide NOW that BACK THEN it wasn’t part of the common law even though NO ONE WAS TRIED FOR THAT back then…”
What is the angle of this? Is someone just trying to get brownie points as a solicitor?
Forget about rape. Don’t get emotional. Think about what the court has done. It has reversed and backdated to when it believes common law defences were extinguished. This is the offensive part of this.
Now apply this to the entire criminal code. This is a dangerous precedent.
If the law was wrong there is little we can do unless we openly approve of retrospective legislation.
.
31 May 12 at 10:18 am
Sorry if anyone has flagged this one already, but I nearly dropped my bevvie at the coffee cart when I read this on the AFR cover:
Labor’s China food bowl plan
“The federal government is seeking billions in Chinese investment to open up land for farming in northern Australia in a plan designed to help feed China’s 1.3 billion citizens”
Stuff me – the same people who get teary eyed about Lock the Gate and mining and CSG companies buying farms are partnering with China – to build farms ?
The same people who locked the Cape York aborigines out of development with the Wild Rivers legislation to appease the Socialist Peoples Soviets of Inner Urban Greentopia are planning to commercialise the North as a – what ? – Chinese state agricultural colony ??
Who says China per se needs this ? Why not other importing nations like Japan, Korea or Taiwan ? What about private enterprise instead of China Inc ??
And how long has this been going on ?
“Trade and Competitiveness Minister Craig Emerson initiated a joint study with the Chinese Government last May to examine the policy changes needed to facilitate large-scale investment by Chinese agricultural interests in undeveloped land in northern Australia.”
FMD – no wonder the Chinese are telling us to piss the US Marines out of the Territory !
Emo is totally off the reservation.
Myrrdin Seren
31 May 12 at 10:25 am
Money for nothing. Hey, it’s only $10 billion.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/terry-mccranns-column/its-official-your-10b-will-be-wasted/story-e6frfig6-1226375550987
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:29 am
MS, that looks very similar to Abbott’s food bowl plan for the north that Labor denigrated last year.
So they’re stealing yet again another Liberal policy?
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:31 am
Huggy Chavez almost gonsky. Dan Rather is reporting it so you don’t know if he’s lying and made it all up as is his habit.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:34 am
Gab
Believe me – I am not opposed to the concept in principal, whoever champions it.
I am concerned that a Cabinet Minister has been working for a year to deliver a privileged position to sovereign foreign entities with no consultation with the electorate.
Emo qualifies himself:
“There is no proposal for ‘buying up the farm’, importing overseas labour and dedicating the production to Chinese consumption,” Dr Emerson said. “It is designed to lift Australian food production for world markets”.
There may not be any clauses in the initial studies, but China Inc will want to be a part of anything involving their money. And why is it limited to China Inc anyway ?
I would like to think Emo has a whole lot of ‘splaining to do to Senate oversight committees, but I am simply not confident that the Senate has enough committee time available to shine bright lights on the innumerable dubious practices and plans of the Comrades.
I am pretty sure the Coalition just wants development, not favoured nation carve outs.
Myrrdin Seren
31 May 12 at 10:40 am
I really don’t have a problem with the proposal. Perhaps China is the only one willing to put up the money?
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 10:45 am
Look out Adam Smith (Theory of Moral Sentiments), Homer is set to replace you
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 10:47 am
The Pauline Hanson aligned ALP lecturing about Xenophobia.
Choking…on…the…hypocrisy
twostix
31 May 12 at 10:47 am
“Hopeless” or “homeless”?
If it’s hopeless I presume the moron is really referring to himself in which case I have no empathy. None.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:49 am
Pauline Hanson backed ALP
Get the script right, JC.
.
31 May 12 at 10:52 am
Yea I know Dot. The Alliance is basically One Nation is all but name now.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:53 am
JC,
The shelf stacking corridor power walker has a view from the lower north shore apparently.
.
31 May 12 at 10:53 am
Hahaha! Good catch, CL.
Quite so.
sdog
31 May 12 at 10:53 am
The Presidential race…
Reuters investigates birth certificate… Mitt Romney’s.
Romney’s birth certificate evokes his father’s controversy.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 10:55 am
Lol. I think the lunatic is from North West Sydney though, but you can’t tell as much these days, as he’s bought an expensive app which translates Eastwoodlish to regular English.
Sometimes the app breaks down though and that horrendous diction comes out. Obviously it isn’t foolproof with fool being the operative word when it’s about him.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:59 am
I wonder if Homer knew fellow Eastwood scrubber Geoffrey Robertson back in the day.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 11:02 am
JC
Humphreys and I have been to Eastwood to visit Terje and I think I recall Terje saying Homer lives nearby his place.
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 11:04 am
(Steve at 9.51 pm)
Good onya SfB.
Let me guess. The escape pod is the “B Ark”, is it not?
Winston SMITH
31 May 12 at 11:10 am
The world famous Herman rights lawyer went to Sydney uni I presume whereas as Homer went to macquarie, so they possibly didn’t know each other.
How frightful for him.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:15 am
The problem is, as usual, that they’ll take a good idea and turn it to shit.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 11:22 am
On that thread Homer is on at Troppo, Sanchez the pool cleaner and now professor of neuroscience at MIT comes up with his own diagnosis.
He does a great deal of his research while sucking up leaves during his pool run.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:23 am
Jason
Sorry – back with you.
“Perhaps China is the only one willing to put up the money?”
Indeed – but who would know ? They’ve been working on this for a year and the AFR has only just now been backgrounded. Probably so Emo can get it out there before the new Labor backbench xenophobia committee kills the chance to get the Chinese agricultural embeds into the Emo Agro Scheme.
My grouse is – where is the transparency; why does it have to be Chinese sovereign money – and no other ?; and what about private enterprise ?
Well – given who this government is – the preference to partner with a large, socialist, one party state over the private sector or even democratic governments in market economies is obvious I suppose.
Wonder if they will build a statue to Emo at the entrance to the colony ?
Myrrdin Seren
31 May 12 at 11:32 am
The massive borrowing required will be sourced through a shady intermediary hired by Emerson possibly named Tirath Khemlani.
Tom
31 May 12 at 11:34 am
Thank you Tom.
These is indeed the occult question of whether this is Emo’s attempt to join Conroy and the NBN up there in the pantheon of bottomless black taxpayer underwritten holes requiring endless consultancies to be filled by Mates, Maates, Maaates ?!!
Myrrdin Seren
31 May 12 at 11:39 am
The demented leftwing zombie brain is addicted to self-apprandising “nation-building” schemes, provided they thought of it themselves, it hasn’t been costed properly and it is to be financed by other people’s money. This is looking like a front-running candidate for the final comedy that brings the curtain down on the worst government in Australian history. Whitlam and R.F.X. Connor could only dream of what this rabble is doing.
Tom
31 May 12 at 11:47 am
A calmly written case for conservative action on greenhouse gas emissions.
Prediction: he will be called an idiot by the noisy, nutty side of the Right for believing the need for any action at all.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 11:49 am
Tell me it isn’t so:
steve
31 May 12 at 11:52 am
And on a note that should concern anyone south of the border:
Australia’s most popular beer for decades, VB, has lost its crown, with interloper XXXX Gold from Queensland now officially the nation’s biggest-selling brew.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/vb-the-second-best-cold-beer-20120530-1zina.html#ixzz1wPMvpime
steve
31 May 12 at 11:55 am
Who drinks domestic beer? The greatest blessing of globalisation has been widely available drinkable beer.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 11:56 am
Australian beer is horrible stuff.
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 11:57 am
Bad PR, but they survive on donations, so they should be able to accept funding from whoever they like.
Adam Kane
31 May 12 at 11:58 am
steve
given what you know about libertarians, why would you think that before receiving this funding they would have been inclined to support plain packaging legislation?
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 12:00 pm
What’s wrong with receiving donations from tobacco companies? The Australian government and health servicse would collapse without their generosity.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 12:02 pm
XXXX Gold is bland boring stuff.
But boutique Australian beers are booming, and are often very good:
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 12:02 pm
Boutique Australian beer is booming is often very good:
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 12:05 pm
Guys, if you want to get rid of Flying Rats, put half a dozen mousetraps in your trees, tied to a piece of string that prevents them getting away.
FF is trapped, lets out a squeal and all his mates piss off. They give your backyard quite a wide berth too.
Let the ugly, shit covered, disease ridden things go in the morning.
Or just chuck the whole thing in a 44 of water. That will also shut the fuckers up.
Winston SMITH
31 May 12 at 12:12 pm
Bloody Euroboys.
I’ll grant you that VB is the beer they sell in hell, but XXXX Bitter and Emu Bitter are the beers you get given in heaven. On tap, delivered by authentic Kalgoorlie Skimpies.
Winston SMITH
31 May 12 at 12:20 pm
Alright, a flying fox trap then.
Pickles
31 May 12 at 12:20 pm
I’ll drink VB but only from an ice coild stubbie. Emu Bitter is about as palatable as Gillard’s bike shorts after a day in the saddle.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 12:23 pm
James Squire Golden Ale is one mighty drop.
Rabz
31 May 12 at 12:24 pm
Wouldn’t the Trapiste Beers be the ones sold in heaven
dan
31 May 12 at 12:30 pm
Carlton Mid-Strength is the big sleeper in my local on the beach in Mexico. It’s what you drink after you’ve turned your palate into an expensive sewer drinking Heineken.
Tom
31 May 12 at 12:30 pm
I quite like Corona, with a slice of lemon.
Gab
31 May 12 at 12:33 pm
Anybody who donates to the IPA (or any other group) presumably does so because it’s either in their interests, or because they see some perceived value in the donation. If the IPA takes a stand against regulation of a particular industry, it’s logical that that industry would want to support it.
If the suggestion is that IPA only took up the cause because of the donations, then 1) this is absurd, given their position of free markets; and 2) Even if they did, so what? If you disagree with their position, address their arguments – simply dismissing their position because of who supports it is just lazy thinking (and therefore typical of the Left)
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 12:35 pm
I don’t find many of the mass market Euro beers any better than the mass market Australian beers.
Stella and Heineken are both pretty ordinary but Peroni is quite drinkable.
I must admit I am not a huge fan of VB or New but XXXX Gold goes alright.
My favourite all-time beer is an Australian one – Little Creatures Pale Ale. Have not tasted anything anywhere to compare with it.
Matt
31 May 12 at 12:39 pm
The whole demonisation of donations from tobacco industry is a joke anyway. They used to donate to both political parties – then when ALP started getting nasty, ALP donations naturally dried up.
Not wanting the Libs to have an unfair advantage, they started accusing Libs of opposing the policy merely because of the donations – much as people are now implying about IPA. The Libs, being the usual soft-cocks they are in matters like this caved, and said they wouldn’t accept donations – whilst still opposing the policies.
This is absurd, of course.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 12:39 pm
VB is fine, you snobs.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 12:41 pm
Coopers, James Squire and Little Creatures are all great Australian beer brands. You couldn’t pay me enough to drink VB, XXXX or a lot of the other mainstream beers.
tbh
31 May 12 at 12:51 pm
VB is fine, if you are pissed and the beer is kept just above freezing.
Chimay Blue is the greatest beer of all time. Two bottles of it and a bottle of red and you’re either gonna get arrested or get laid.
.
31 May 12 at 12:54 pm
As long as it’s not both, in that order.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 12:56 pm
I’m quite partial to Asahi and Tsingtao also.
Gab
31 May 12 at 12:58 pm
Well. For that you might hit up the bath salts.
.
31 May 12 at 12:58 pm
You guys have to try Moretti beer, especially the dark one. It’s about the best beer I’ve ever tasted.
I used to work with the nephew of the dude that owned the brewery and happened to be my boss. This was before it was sold out to the bigger player who I can’t recall. The stupid fucker was constantly being asked by his uncle to go over and run it for him but preferred to work in banking. He got me onto it, especially the dark brew. It’s like angels on the tip of the tongue.
JC
31 May 12 at 12:59 pm
Tiger is the best beer we import. I’m a malt fan.
.
31 May 12 at 1:00 pm
I always find it interesting that beer is one alcoholic drink that every country in the world can make reasonably well. I have my doubts that you can find any nation that doesn’t have at least one quite drinkable beer made locally.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 1:01 pm
I agree fleeced. If the libs weren’t such softcocks they would go back and take the money while stitching up the Liars party by making sure union members voted on political donations. starve the fuckers of cash, so they can’t hire student union slobs.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:02 pm
That’s it, JC, dark beers are fantastic.
In Canberra I recommend the Wig and Pen’s Doppelbock.
.
31 May 12 at 1:03 pm
JC that is why need to crack open the slush fund that is industry super funds. Ripping off their members to boot and stitching them up with the FWA.
.
31 May 12 at 1:04 pm
Even the workers’ paradise has a decent local beer apparently …
Matt
31 May 12 at 1:05 pm
Be careful that your European beer is fully imported and not made under licence. The difference is significant.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:05 pm
Good piece by Walter Russell Mead on the global collapse of warmenism:
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/143931/
C.L.
31 May 12 at 1:10 pm
Yeah no worries IT Dan Murphy reckons that Chimay is imported and brewed in Belgium. Thankfully Tiger is brewed in Signapore.
.
31 May 12 at 1:11 pm
I have my doubts that you can find any nation that doesn’t have at least one quite drinkable beer made locally
For ten points – I vote Saudi Arabia will be found to be deficient in the production of drinkable local beer.
Any more suggestions ?
Myrrdin Seren
31 May 12 at 1:12 pm
Egyptian beer (Stella) is pretty ordinary. It has sediment in the bottles, like coopers, yet it is a lager. Blecccch.
Worst beer in the world: Keystone Light.
Les Majesty
31 May 12 at 1:17 pm
And?
Ed Schultz: If Romney wins this election, there’ll never be another Democratic president.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 1:19 pm
Negro Modelo is an awesome dark beer.
Les Majesty
31 May 12 at 1:19 pm
Honest question: Is that a bad thing? Is that what Ed is trying to say?
JC
31 May 12 at 1:22 pm
My vote for worst beer in the world: Double Brown – Jake the Muss’ beer of choice …
Matt
31 May 12 at 1:25 pm
I’ll bet there’s some terrific home brew going on.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:25 pm
Lol . Really? there was a meeting in Bonn. Who would possibly have ever guessed.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:25 pm
Shultz:
How is this conceivably a bad thing?
C.L.
31 May 12 at 1:26 pm
Sounds more like a CO2 junket.
Gab
31 May 12 at 1:27 pm
I’ve been scratching the side of my head causing minor bleed since you posted the earlier comment and I’m still left without an answer. I better stop scratching.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:28 pm
I remember when they labelled it “HOPEnhagen.”
Adam Kane
31 May 12 at 1:29 pm
In Bonn? Cancun was obviously and I’m still wondering if they were there the same time the porn awards ceremony was being held.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:30 pm
Ah the Copey Summit. That’s the one Oztralia sent over 300 fucking delegates. What a international sized embarrassment that was for us. It made me cringe when I heard that. Rudd is a complete moron.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:32 pm
As Biblical Archaeology Review wrote once:
Any periods in which the locals discovered beer before clothes were probably some of the most lively in pre-history.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 1:34 pm
Or an ALP government. It’s all in the second paragraph of the Fisk Doctrine.
He’s been very open with his plans to ban leftism.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:36 pm
Lots of really fantastic US microbrews out there. We don’t get many in Oz, sadly, so all we know about are the abysmally pissy Budweiser, Coors and Millers. The only decent mass-produced Yank beer is Sam Adams, as far as I’m concerned.
I had plenty of Yank microbrews of all kinds in China, and they’re good. My discerning American friends say that the microbrew industry in the States is huge, fragmented and diversified – which is a recipe for quality. Small operations run by passionate people = good product.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 1:37 pm
IT: implementing the Fisk Doctrine is a perfectly moderate and rational response to the challenge leftism poses to our fundamental freedoms.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 1:39 pm
The US has become the microbrew capital of the world. Not uncommon for bars over there to have 80+ beers to gargle one’s way through.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:39 pm
The Fisk doctrine makes a great deal of sense. There is no reason why Bolt ought to be taken to court for breaking leftwing rules while leftwingers can’t be taken to court fro breaking rightwing rules especially with the introduction of the Finkeltsien laws. Repeal the all the bolt like laws and replace them with rightwing ones. That’s all I’m suggesting. No biggie, right?
JC
31 May 12 at 1:40 pm
Rochefort Trappiste to die for. In fact most boutique belgium beers.
Little creatures in oz.
Brewdog is dynamite
Irving J
31 May 12 at 1:41 pm
Fisk is too much of a moderate for my liking, but I’ve never been as pragamtic as he is when it comes to implementing policy.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:41 pm
Quite true. Of course the Fisk Doctrine should only be considered as a starter.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:43 pm
If implemented, the Fisk Doctrine will be a landmark piece of legislation that will be celebrated for posterity as a Gates of Vienna moment in Australian history – when we turned back the barbarians trying to destroy Australian liberty.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 1:44 pm
Long term I hope the Fisk Doctrine leads to segregation and the mass movement of people.
I see no reason why we can’t establish Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania as leftist only colonies and maintain the rest of Australia as a freedom loving bastion of righteosness.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:45 pm
Little Creatures is a great microbrewery, and there are some other decent microbreweries dotted about the country – but there are a handful of mediocre ones, too.
On the whole, our beer industry is a sea of mediocrity with a few bright spots.
There are no decent mass produced beers at all in Oz (I don’t really consider Coopers to be a mass-produced beer). There are a hundred different labels produced by the Big Two (Fosters and Lion Nathan) that all taste similarly one-dimensional, gassy and are boring as shit.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 1:48 pm
I can well imagine the screams. This is when calmness should be shown and quietly point out to our leftwing cousins that the Right is simply doing what they have been doing for decades.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:50 pm
The Jenny McCarthy body count.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 1:51 pm
IT: I think we will have to build a very long and expensive wall in that case to stop the refugees.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 1:52 pm
All this talk about beer is making me thirsty…
Rabz
31 May 12 at 1:52 pm
CNN Hits 20-Year Monthly Rating Low In May
http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/cnn-ratings-monthly-low-20-years/
At this rate they’ll hit ratings equal to the first day they broadcast.
JC
31 May 12 at 1:53 pm
One has to be thirsty to drink beer? Oh.
Gab
31 May 12 at 1:54 pm
Otherwise known as “the Thirst”, Gab.
One’s too many, twenty isn’t enough…
Rabz
31 May 12 at 1:58 pm
One for Les:
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 2:05 pm
The Fisk Doctrine does not go nearly far enough.
Banning leftism isn’t enough. All political speech should be banned. In fact, the practice of politics and political thought should be banned.
The government should be abolished.
All power should be vested in a triumvirate of Gina, Clive and Twiggy who can rule by decree in perpetuity for them and their heirs (or designates, given that Gina’s kids hate her). Gina and Twiggy despise each other so Clive will hold real power. This is a good thing.
The Triumvirate should be charged with digging as much shit out of the ground as possible, and putting it on a boat.
As quickly as possible.
By any means necessary.
Les Majesty
31 May 12 at 2:05 pm
All good points, Les.
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:07 pm
Of course, the triumvirate should free to strike deals with the Red Chinese as they see fit. Including selling such parts of Australia as are surplus to present requirements.
Les Majesty
31 May 12 at 2:08 pm
Les, in a few short years we’ll hear no more from you, so enjoy your yapping.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:09 pm
Steve, something useful from you at last. Good boy. You can have a pink elephant stamp.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 2:10 pm
Les
The Fisk Doctrine is fair and quirky in its simplicity too. As lefties like fairness what is more fair than repealing leftwing laws and replacing them with rightwing ones as everyone deserves to have a shot. It’s only fair, no?
JC
31 May 12 at 2:11 pm
Exactly, JC. It comes under the umbrella of shocial inclusion.
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:12 pm
The obvious omission in the Fisk Doctrine is: what will happen to those who fall afoul of the 10-year moratorium? This has yet to be decided conclusively, however the founder leans towards thorough psychiatric care utilizing the latest medical advances.
Fisky
31 May 12 at 2:13 pm
Gab, is that shocial inclusion a carefully thought out policy, or just one beer to many?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 2:15 pm
OCO
You tool. That was the Glorious Revolution and Act of Settlement when the REAL road-to-serfdom barbarians were bitch-slapped.
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 2:16 pm
Too cold for beer, Lizzie.
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:16 pm
No doubt, the Treaty of Karlowitz was a win, but it was one in England.
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 2:17 pm
The first patient at the Fisk Mental Asylum will be Peter, who is in need of a 10-year course of treatment for Catholic Derangement Syndrome, a Leftist pathology.
Fisky
31 May 12 at 2:18 pm
We could of course use James K’s knowledge in deciding which drugs could be administered safely to induce long term coma for the ‘patients’.
JC
31 May 12 at 2:19 pm
Shut up Patton, you humorless dolt.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:20 pm
I won’t be voting for the Coalition at the next election:
Tony Abbott is a disgusting turd.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:20 pm
It is never too cold for beer
Tiny Dancer
31 May 12 at 2:21 pm
Did Les miss my 2.05 comment? He usually never lets a chance for Romney ridicule pass…
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 2:21 pm
Frank Zappa;
You can’t be a Real Country unless you have a BEER and an airline – it helps if you have some kind of a football team or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a BEER.
dan
31 May 12 at 2:22 pm
Ah, must be the hot Irish coffee.
Very shocially inclusive I find.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 2:22 pm
No, Les, banning leftism is enough. That is all.
You are an extremist.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:22 pm
“Les, Les, Les, I’m here” says stepford.
JC
31 May 12 at 2:23 pm
Is the baby making it hard to spend all arvo at the TAB or track, IT?
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 2:24 pm
Oh great, Steve is flirting with Les again. Please, Steve. Enough with the winking and batting of eyelids. I just ate.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:24 pm
That’s very dispiriting, IT.
Tom
31 May 12 at 2:24 pm
Stuff that! That’ll cost the taxpayers heaps for upkeep.
Send them to North Korea instead, where they can then attempt to “spread the wealth” around.
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:25 pm
Or failing that, chow down on some tasty dirt.
Rabz
31 May 12 at 2:27 pm
The clueless dullard doesn’t realise that I can already gamble to my heart’s content on online poker etc. but the companies are registered overseas so Australia gets no cut.
He really is an ignoramus when it comes to technology etc. Clubs Australia, the corporate bookmakers and casion operators have obviously got to him.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:28 pm
The Fisk Doctrine would clean up the droppings on this thread nicely. No contributions from Steve of Brisbane or Les for a start.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:29 pm
I do not gamble and will never gamble but that decision of Abbott’s is certainly disappointing.
I suppose NGD agrees with it.
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 2:30 pm
In fact, for every lefty sent to NK, we would take 100 Norks in return. None from those in the NK defence/police forces mind, just the hard working villagers.
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:31 pm
I’ve never played online poker in my life, but hundreds of thousands of Australians already do with foreign operators. Where’s Yobbo to explain what an idiot Abbott is?
Luckily the internet is impossible to police so Abbott can go whistle.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:32 pm
Ah yes, who can forget:
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 2:33 pm
I would like to see the Fisk Doctrine address the problem of the destruction of Australian humour by the Green Left. OCO, it doesn’t help if we ban SfB; you just take away an endless, giving source of entertainment for the adults.
Tom
31 May 12 at 2:33 pm
Repeat violators of the Fisk Doctrine should be chemically muted, and their limbs paralysed. If they continue to flaunt the law, their ability to communicate must be physically but humanely restrained using the latest medical technology.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:35 pm
Ah yes, Shane Wand and the Lying Slapper are former Silicon Valleys start up executives.
JC
31 May 12 at 2:37 pm
The Fisk Doctrine should look to assign a mentor to all leftists. I’ve taken Steve from Brisbane under my wing and he’s coming along… slowly.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:37 pm
This one rates 5 stars just for the name
Mother Hubbard's Dog
31 May 12 at 2:38 pm
JC is in charge of mOnty since they’re such pals.
I’m happy to take charge of Tillman.
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 2:39 pm
And FDB and THR – who’s going to mentor them? Mk50 perhaps?
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:40 pm
Alternatively, they could be interned and treated for their condition.
Personally, I favour the clinical use of methylenedioxymethamphetamine to explore the genesis their destructive beliefs, and these can be addressed in therapy.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:40 pm
I’m sure I could get JamesK to administer a coma inducing agent to keep the little fucker in deep sleep for at least 2 decades. He’d be only too happy to.
JC
31 May 12 at 2:42 pm
wow, I didn’t realise that John Boner was such an idiot
http://blog.independent.org/2012/05/29/the-brazilian-traitor/
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 2:44 pm
Don’t even waste your time. Just put them all in a coma and stick’em in an oxygenated coffin like contraption for a decade or so. Out of sight out of mind.
It’s cheap and keeps them out of harms way.
JC
31 May 12 at 2:44 pm
This isn’t some cottage industry, Jason and IT. We are talking about a widespread psychological deprogramming operation.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:45 pm
That’s some lovely state sponsored fascism there.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:46 pm
But they’ll learn naught that way, JC. Send them to NK to further experience totalitarianism and perhaps, in time, they’ll learn the error of their ways.
Gab
31 May 12 at 2:47 pm
That is a cheap but less humane option, JC. I think curing them of their destructive beliefs would be a more worthy enterprise.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:47 pm
What about this drink.
Now you can drink what porn stars recommend.
“Ron de Jeremy Rum is best served neat, over ice or with your favourite mixer.”…….or in his case served bareback over a blonde or with his favorite racially mixed couple.
splatacrobat
31 May 12 at 2:48 pm
As an interim measure before the Fisk Doctrine is implemented, let’s bring in new admission standards for Aussie unis. Henceforth, no one will be admitted to uni unless they either (i) pay an upfront fee, in cash, equal to 150% of the final year’s fee for a boarder at King’s (indexed annually) or (ii) produce a certificate from Hancock Prospecting Pty Ltd certifying that the applicant has spent two (2) years residing and working full time at Hancock’s Pilbara tenements in a labourer’s role.
Further, no journalist is allowed to comment on matters relating to taxation, finance or social justice unless the journo can produce a similar certificate from Hancock Prospecting.
Les Majesty
31 May 12 at 2:48 pm
Nonsense, IT. You are hysterical.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:48 pm
That is therapy. Remember Chelmsford?
Mother Hubbard's Dog
31 May 12 at 2:49 pm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
coz
31 May 12 at 2:50 pm
I was referring to John Boehner, not the death squads for leftists which i endorse.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:51 pm
Your getting closer to the truth than you really know, Les. No freaking journalist should ever be employed unless they’ve had true to life working experience in the private sector. That ought to be a given. Think of Jessica Irvine why it would be a good idea.
JC
31 May 12 at 2:52 pm
As a long term online poker player who travels, I think this is not so simple. The banning works at the government level.
In France, I couldn’t play in real money games despite being able to in the UK and Morocco using my same laptop/login throughout. The US has some approved sites but since April last year, when they attacked the major sites, has had an exodus of online poker players to Canada and other more congenial places.
Basically the companies have the technology to limit access and do so at a government’s behest.
It just continues my plan to spend more time overseas.
dismissive
31 May 12 at 2:56 pm
IT: pardon me; my sincere apologies.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:57 pm
Definitely. Australia is now just for work and schooling. Anything related to shopping, fun and lesiure must be done outside our borders.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 2:59 pm
Les should be ignored as he is making light of the grave situation. Under the Fisk Doctrine, he would of course be silenced – chemically if necessary.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 2:59 pm
jihad watch;
fucking Victorians
dan
31 May 12 at 3:01 pm
Forget chemicals. The Fisk Doctrine can draw on other, more fearful technical resources.
Tom
31 May 12 at 3:04 pm
No, I think we ultimately need to treat leftism as a medical condition that requires humane treatment.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 3:08 pm
Remember the furore over the ‘Ditch the Witch’ poster (note, singular)?
These are the posters hanging in Tanya Plebeserk’s office complete with the official Labor Party endorsement.
Hypocritical and childish but then that sums up Labor MP’s.
Gab
31 May 12 at 3:16 pm
Sanctimonious smartarse zombie bitch. Plibersek’ll get hers; Sydney (19.3%) will be a marginal seat after next year.
Tom
31 May 12 at 3:23 pm
Gab, they were just talking about that in the house o reps.
Isn’t our parliament fucked at the moment?
dan
31 May 12 at 3:23 pm
I’ll have to read the transcript, Dan. QT is as bad as Q&A but without the tweets.
Gab
31 May 12 at 3:25 pm
“Fuck Euro” as in the currency or Eurovison? Can’t figure it out.
Anyways bunch of topless ladies protest Eurovision contest screaming out “fuck euro’.
http://www.rt.com/sport/topless-attack-femen-dump-euro-trophy-in-protest-822/
JC
31 May 12 at 3:26 pm
We had our annual watching of the Eurovision finals party on Sunday. I’m betting those topless ladies are protesting against the song contest. Quite so/.
Gab
31 May 12 at 3:28 pm
To summarise Gab, there is a lot of bitchiness resulting in protestations and members having to withdraw. It’s nothing spectacular but I get the feeling that both sides know an election is way off.
dan
31 May 12 at 3:29 pm
Abbot ought to just keep on sending Subway orders for Manly to Pilbersek’s office, along with the invoices.
Like ordering pizzas no one wants.
“Make me a sandwich, you unemployable fool”
.
31 May 12 at 3:33 pm
Hookers dot
dan
31 May 12 at 3:40 pm
How is it perfectly acceptable for Labor MPs to be sexist? Or misandrist?
Gab
31 May 12 at 3:41 pm
Fisk, spare a thought in your deliberation for the return to stocks and pillories in public squares. You will have my full support.
dover_beach
31 May 12 at 3:45 pm
More activity in the Town Square will placate leftists who are always demanding more cultural outlay. It’s win/win.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 3:48 pm
Ah yes, then Pilbersek can claim she was “attacked with hookers”.
.
31 May 12 at 3:49 pm
Abbott’s correct response should have been to note the hyposcrisy, but to make it clear he found it funny. His PC response is another reason he will be silenced under the Fisk Doctrine.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 3:50 pm
We do great stuff in QLD.
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 3:52 pm
I know the religion of peace really is complex, but I really do need an expert to explain how this man has so thoroughly mis-understood doctrine of the Koran.
Token
31 May 12 at 4:01 pm
More pandering to The One from the press; regarding W’s impending visit to the WH:
How could Obama be even remotely described as a “political veteran” – or a veteran of anything, really?
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 4:31 pm
The most despicable union in the US.
You guessed it:
California Teachers.
JC
31 May 12 at 4:36 pm
Righty teachers are outnumbered by lefty teachers at around 1000 to 1.
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 4:53 pm
Fauxfacts remembers there is a US election, makes a big deal about a spelling mistake…
…while ignoring the fact the Sun King’s cock up created an international incident by insulting a country that lost 3 millions citizens to the Nazi…
Token
31 May 12 at 4:55 pm
got accused of “socialist hate speech” by some green slime LOL ROFL
Irving J
31 May 12 at 4:59 pm
The Luvvie Left’s war on families continues…
Doesn’t this guy have fight with Bob Ellis to finish?
Token
31 May 12 at 4:59 pm
Gab:
Naah. We can outsource the re-education of all of them to Yodok.
It’s run by their fellow communists for their fellow communists, after all.
Mk50 of Brisbane
31 May 12 at 5:05 pm
LOL…
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 5:09 pm
The final months of this inept government is going to be tedious and pathetic.
Labor has lived off the faux concern for the “near-suicidal” Shagger. Now the speaker is trying to control the house using tears for fallen comrades…
Token
31 May 12 at 5:12 pm
How is that article a war on families?
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 5:15 pm
Suicide would be too honourable for that shameless man.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 5:16 pm
Lying makes baby jesus cry!
.
31 May 12 at 5:17 pm
Plebeserk has taken down the sexist campaign posters of Abbott. No apology, of course, just a text to say the posters were “satire”.
Sure. As was the “Ditch the Witch” poster. Hilarious.
Gab
31 May 12 at 5:18 pm
Abbot ought to send though a platter of Subs to her everyday until she loses her seat.
.
31 May 12 at 5:20 pm
Mike Bloomberg is the worst human in history.
What an arsehole.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 5:21 pm
C**T.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 5:24 pm
@IT – City of Darebin will be inspired
Matt
31 May 12 at 5:29 pm
Hatespeech.
Julia Gillard.
Gab
31 May 12 at 5:32 pm
That’s funny. IT, the man at this blog who most enthusiastically blames the consumption of carbs as the source of all excess weight, is most enthusiastically against a measure to help reduce carb consumption.
I suspect that it will result in a substantial increase in consumption of diet sodas, which can still be sold in the large sizes. That would probably not be a bad outcome. I think. But I am not 100% sure if I endorse it.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 5:34 pm
Stalin had nothing on the red headed Welsh wench
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 5:35 pm
Death threats.
.
31 May 12 at 5:35 pm
This tragically just shows why you don’t get it.
I don’t like gambling, tobacco, anal sex or pot and I don’t want to ban them
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 5:37 pm
Steve, that’s not the point. It’s all about the government dictating what people can and cannot eat through punitive measures. About changing behaviour through coercion.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t like being treated like a stupid child by a government. This interference in everyday life is appalling.
Gab
31 May 12 at 5:39 pm
Don’t like gambling,Jason you are not really Chinese
Tal
31 May 12 at 5:42 pm
Pay attention, Student Steve.
In NYC two dudes can now get married and celebrate by putting all sorts of objects in each others mouths but not a beverage over 16 ounces. This is not freedom.
Freedom is your friend Steve. It makes you an adult.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 5:44 pm
Jason’s Chinese? wait till Doug Cameron hears about this!
Gab
31 May 12 at 5:44 pm
It’s not being banned. Its sale is being regulated in such a way as to attempt to reduce consumption. People will still be free to drink as much as they like, although it sounds like it might be a bit more expensive. And a bit more inconvenient.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 5:46 pm
Christ on a bike, Steve. It’s shit like this that will get you sent to Fisk’s death camps.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 5:48 pm
Yeah right Steve, if they sell you a 1 ltr bottle of pepsi and refuse to comply, they can ultimately go to gaol.
This is not freedom, you snivelling arseclown.
.
31 May 12 at 5:48 pm
Yeah right Steve, if they sell you a 1 ltr bottle of pepsi and refuse to comply, they can ultimately go to gaol.
This is not freedom, you sniveling weasel.
.
31 May 12 at 5:50 pm
lol thought I got moderated.
.
31 May 12 at 5:51 pm
Steve, talking reason with you is like trying to herd cats.
Gab
31 May 12 at 5:51 pm
IT, you certainly have a mammoth task ahead of you.
Gab
31 May 12 at 5:52 pm
It’s a ban on companies selling it, you nimrod.
Now they’ll have to sell just the smaller ones: “$5 each, or 2 for $7!”
Next up, a ban on jumbo popcorn at the movies… no more sharing with your date – you’ll each have to get your own.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 5:53 pm
Spot, like Stanley?
nilk
31 May 12 at 5:55 pm
We’d better build a bigger re-education camp
Tal
31 May 12 at 5:56 pm
Black Orpheus is on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGEVUHkJG1o&feature=related
coz
31 May 12 at 5:58 pm
Go seasteading and you can as much “freedom” as you like, dot. And supersized sodas.
But anyway – my reservation is that it will likely prove impossible to tell if it is having public health effect and just may not be worth the whinging it will encourage. On the other hand, people who don’t give a stuff about public health (libertarians) have pooh-ed pooh-ed (I’m never certain how to spell that – I should check with Mk50) increasing restrictions on cigarette sales on the same ground ever since they were introduced, yet the steadily decreasing consumption over years indicates that it has had an effect.
So who knows.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 6:00 pm
You really are a fascist c**t, aren’t you?
Drinking as much sugary drink is only acceptable to you if you start your own country and militarily defeat any nation that objects to your newfound independence.
Wow. What a power hungry distrubed Walter Mittie jerkoff you are.
.
31 May 12 at 6:03 pm
You can’t legislate against stupid, you can however send leftists and wowsers to death camps. This break through has really gladdened my heart. We have much to look forward to.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 6:12 pm
Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 6:16 pm
Sit down, shut up and read this and learn something.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fresh-fruit-hold-the-insulin
.
31 May 12 at 6:20 pm
Sit down, shut up and read this and learn something…you must LEARN THE MATERIAL
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fresh-fruit-hold-the-insulin
.
31 May 12 at 6:22 pm
Considering that the obesity crisis is a result of government stupidity, my first point of call would be to tell government to take a holiday involving sex and travel.
If you want to reduce the obesity rate then burn the food pyramid and admit you were wrong. Secondly remove all farm subsidies – thre is much evil here. Thirdly annihilate the nanny state that wraps kids and adults in cotton wool and prevents them from doing something as simple as playing in a park or riding a bike. Fourthly, a gentle public education campaign pointing out that carbs are evil but it’s your choice to be a fatty boom boom and we don’t care if you are or aren’t.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 6:24 pm
They could stop peddling the food pyramid, for one.
And making people pay for own health costs might help, too.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 6:26 pm
Do agricultural subsidies account for the increasing obesity levels in Australia? I didn’t think we were all that far behind the US now.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 6:26 pm
eating too much being rather fat is sign of depression sadness, low self esteem,loneliness
trying to fill an empty space in the heart with food (or drugs or whatever)….
charging more for soft drinks won’t fix that.
candy
31 May 12 at 6:27 pm
Virulent communism.
.
31 May 12 at 6:29 pm
I’m not a libertarian but I wonder if a libertarian would give a shit about interfering with other people’s dietary habits and weight. If someone chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle, then on their head let it be …
Matt
31 May 12 at 6:29 pm
Seriously: how many people do you think end up obese – not just overweight, but obese – because they have been following the government food pyramid?
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 6:30 pm
Obesity is directly caused by individual choices. Therefore you’re on perilous ground when you breezily talk about “reducing the rate” because what you really mean is “getting people to make different food choices.” You need to think hard about whether your goal is to eliminate it, or simply make people more aware of the risk.
Adam Kane
31 May 12 at 6:31 pm
Apparently the new law won’t apply to milkshakes or juices – just soft-drink. LOL… It’s the bubbles of nothing that make it really fattening! Even if it wasn’t a fascist move, it’s misguided BS.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 6:32 pm
Ice cream.
I reckon 20 percent of all obesity is attributable to a single eating choice: frequent ice cream. I’m serious.
Adam Kane
31 May 12 at 6:35 pm
Lots. Most, in fact. Diet habits changed significantly in the years after that silly pyramid (even though most people wouldn’t be explicitly following it.)
Of course, I don’t know how you would go about reversing that trend. Current eating habits are pretty ingrained.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 6:40 pm
That sign on Plibersek’s door…doesn’t she follow a party leader who also professes to be:
1) Against Gay Marriage
2) tough on boatpeople
Quentin George
31 May 12 at 6:41 pm
Yes, Quentin. The Left have no sense of irony.
Fleeced
31 May 12 at 6:43 pm
LOL.
Stop criticising the government or we’ll commit suicide!
Ahahahahaha.
Nothing in the history of white nations compares to this sociopathic rabble.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 6:44 pm
Gambling should be restricted to bookies at the tracks of horses and dogs, the TAB for same, the Opera House lottery and two up in pubs and clubs on Saturday night or whenever they can get a ring going.
Barbers can keep a tote if they want, but only proper barbers with poles and strops. Unisex hairdressers and houses of hair removal staffed by Sharlenes and Shirtlifters can do whatever they do but leave the punt alone.
I miss Steve the greek barber in Boundary St West End. Saturday morning haircut with a constant stream of old Greeks studying the form, racing across to the TAB, drinking coffee and smoking like burning tyre factories. A real sense of community. Strategically located about three feet below street level of the Melbourne Street bus stop. great views.
Are you with me??
Pickles
31 May 12 at 6:45 pm
Yes, cheap imported food is wonderful.
Just shut ya eyes and dig in.
After all, cheap is good.
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 6:46 pm
Every pub should have its own SP bookie in order to get its licence.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 6:47 pm
I never buy imported seafood, Jump, NZ being the exception. I don’t care of it costs more, I just prefer local seafood.
Gab
31 May 12 at 6:49 pm
Plibersek beclowned:
Tanya Plibersek refuses to apologise for offensive posters of Tony Abbott in her electorate office.
Plibersek, of course, was named by Barry Cohen in his well-known essay:
The Anti-Semitic Labor Party.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 6:50 pm
Looks to me that the problem isn’t cheap foods but stupid legislation.
Australian seafood is ridiculously overpriced and the arseholes at the government bureau have made sure that it’s no longer worthwhile catching your own.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 6:53 pm
The mere sight of this over promoted secretary irritates me. She has nothing to say, nothing to offer and the only reason she is where is because of her plumbing. What really disgust me about her is the way she frames comments in that sanctimonious holier than thou tone she puts on. How can they possibly stomach her in caucus? Of course thank Emily List for this intellectual pipsqueak.
JC
31 May 12 at 6:59 pm
Given the enormous amount of cheese consumed in France and Italy, you’d think they’d all be sick and dying according to FS ANZ.
Gab
31 May 12 at 6:59 pm
Australian soldiers on the piss get into a blue…
OMG! This calls for direct public intervention from the Defence Minister and the Defence Force Chief:
Chesty Puller:
C.L.
31 May 12 at 6:59 pm
The solution to obesity is to take up smoking.
Ice cream and donuts, the worst offenders.
coz
31 May 12 at 7:01 pm
It’s a time honoured tradition for Yanks and Aussie troops to brawl in Kings Cross. Hope it was over a Sheila.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 7:01 pm
The aggressors were the blacks guys – I’m sorry but their skin is black, deal with it – so the soldiers were supposed to do what? Turn the other cheek?
Gab
31 May 12 at 7:02 pm
I presume Smith isn’t going to prejudge until he has the judges verdict in hand. I mean we can’t prejudge, right?
Did they even get into a fight? Who knows until a judicial finding comes in.
JC
31 May 12 at 7:03 pm
Good point JC. There was no blue until a court determines that there was a blue.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 7:04 pm
I currently live in a country where I very much have to fend for myself in regards to my welfare. I have full private medical health insurance through an international insurer. I am a low-risk profile individual – standard BMI, non-smoker etc. I don’t pay what I consider to be a huge amount for health insurance.
A guy I know who’s my age, pretty much identical profile to me apart from the fact that he’s 5 foot 7 and weighs 128kgs. Yes, he looks like a human bowling ball. He got insurance through the same company as I do. He looked at the insurance brochure which included a table which details the premiums people of different age categories pay, and thought the premium for people his age was pretty cheap, so he went for it. The fat little prick got one hell of a shock after the insurance company got back to him and said hey sorry fatso but because of your obscene lardiness, your premium’s triple that of someone in a healthy weight range.
That’s the libertarian answer to reducing rates of obesity, Stevo.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 7:07 pm
Following that Politico scoop on Mitt Romney’s massive campaign war chest, David Axelrod poos his pants – posts most hilariously hyprocritical Tweet in the history of Tweets:
Jim Treacher:
It’s appalling and undemocratic to raise more money than the Obama campaign.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 7:09 pm
Gab
Me being an ex reef fisherman (waaay back), that’s music to my ears.
I’m not much of a fish eater ( coral trout, maori wrasse and red throat served up every second night as a kid ) I’m more of a exoskeletal sea creature eater (crab, prawn,lobster, bugs).
The thought of Basa fillets ( shit fed Vietnamese catfish ) is vomit inducing.
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 7:09 pm
I dunno C.L.,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Matthys
.
31 May 12 at 7:09 pm
What a beat up the Plibersek story is. Where were the “posters” in her office anyway? Somewhere a member of the public would normally be standing?
It is satire, created (I understand) from a website that let people complete the words. Big deal that a Labor staffer would think Abbott is uncomfortable with gays and sexist. He was the goose who said he feels “threatened” by gays on national TV.
As for him being sexist – he hardly discouraged the image amongst lefty types by talking about a woman’s “gift” of virginity.
Even as unfair insults, these are small change compared to the venom heaped upon Gillard by the likes of Alan Jones, right wing talk back radio, and of course, this blog.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 7:12 pm
Two words that induce extreme horror in anyone who appreciates decent seafood – Nile Perch.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 7:12 pm
Tal @ 1756:
Dunno, Yodok’s pretty big as it it.
(Zoom in for a look at a real, live, functioning Communist gulag with thousands of poor bastards in it)
Mk50 of Brisbane
31 May 12 at 7:13 pm
Basa are poor, but not terrible.
They are too soft and sweet.
We have some of the best fish in Australia. Silver Perch, Eeel Tailed Catfish, Yabbies, Southern Rock Lobster, Kingfish, Southern Bluefin Tuna, Sea Run Trout (Tas)…
Other than red salmon I see little need to buy imports for myself. I like what I can catch or buy.
.
31 May 12 at 7:13 pm
Blast. Did not work.
Put in:
Yodok Gulag, South Hamgyong, North Korea
Mk50 of Brisbane
31 May 12 at 7:15 pm
I note you ignore the boats. Is this because Gillard’s ALP revanchism ala the WAP sending reffos to Malaysia where pogroms are common is too embarrassing for you?
.
31 May 12 at 7:15 pm
No, I supported the Malaysian deal, as I have explained many times before.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 7:17 pm
Tanya Plibersek is married to Michael Coutts-Trotter
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 7:21 pm
Jump
Me too. prefer crustaceans except for balmain bugs – yerck! – but do love NZ sole (which you cannot get in Melb!) and king George Whiting from Albany in WA.
Gab
31 May 12 at 7:21 pm
Cripes. A thousand comments.
Well, the beef bourgignone is ready, the 1987 Galway Hermitage is properly decanted, and Mrs Mk50 is calling. Have a good night, folks.
Mk50 of Brisbane
31 May 12 at 7:31 pm
I don’t hold anything against Plibersek’s husband for the narcotics charge. He didn’t do anything Keith Richards and the Beatles didn’t do a hundred times.
Relatedly, I noticed that Pasquale Barbaro got 30 years minimum for importing ecstasy.
That is just incredibly stupid and excessive – especially considering perhaps one-sixth (or more?) of the people in the court-room at the time do E recreationally.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 7:31 pm
Oh the good times of NSW labor
JC
31 May 12 at 7:34 pm
Fair enough, but would you have hired him as director general of public ed also having no ed qualifications?
Everyone loved NSW Labor.
That reminds me has the undertaker talked about Australia’s most pressing foreign affairs problem today? Syria.
JC
31 May 12 at 7:37 pm
No but some idiot on Twitter is hassling Julie Bishop for not talking more about Syria in Parliament.
They’re not the government, jackass.
Gab
31 May 12 at 7:40 pm
We certainly do. I am just about to cook up a storm of seafood marinara with fresh fettuccine, including lots of prawns. With crusty bread and garlic olive oil, and a crispy salad. Yum.
Da Ape is hungry, and so am I.
Polite dinner party for us tomorrow night, so tonight is big feed up time. We’ve both been to the gym today too.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 7:41 pm
It’s funny that we used WA pilchards as bait and now they’re sold as gourmet sardines.
Of course Banana (that word again) fish are the natural food for Coral Trout. These not these.
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 7:41 pm
front page news.com.au
pliberscum continues to make headlines
Tanya Plibersek refuses to apologise for offensive posters of Tony Abbott in her electorate office
ALP is the party for bottom dwellers, wannabes, leeches, deviants, perverts, the delusional and the gullible.
Irving J
31 May 12 at 7:41 pm
Gee, what a surprise. CL goes into bat for a good-looking married male Roman Catholic. You’re such a fag.
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 7:48 pm
ALP is the party for bottom dwellers, wannabes, leeches, deviants, perverts, the delusional and the gullible.
You left out – [long list of rude habits and practices. Sinc].
Carpe Jugulum
31 May 12 at 7:48 pm
Are there any Coalition MP spouses that did time for importing drugs,or anything else for that matter?
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 7:50 pm
CL
What’s the matter Bwoooooooth? Wicky not weturning your emails?
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 7:50 pm
Steve. I will say this only once. You get fat if you eat crap and fail to exercise.
People who do not know this are brain-dead; they might as well be butt-dead, too.
The government cannot make these people eat better and exercise.
James in Melbourne
31 May 12 at 7:51 pm
Patton
How the fuck you know Plib’s hubbie is a papist? Seriously, how do you even know that and why?
JC
31 May 12 at 7:52 pm
and were appointed and director gen of ed without any ed quals?
JC
31 May 12 at 7:53 pm
I don’t hold anything against Plibersek’s husband for the narcotics charge.
Fair enough, but would you have hired him as director general of public ed also having no ed qualifications?
Another St Ignats old boy. nomesayin.
coz
31 May 12 at 7:58 pm
White House press secretary Jay Carney uses a questioned Market Watch report about spending under Obama to claim he has been a “responsible steward” of the economy.
Winston Smith
31 May 12 at 7:58 pm
Ann Counter on a really important election this weekend that the GOP and the nation can’t lose, but they very well may.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-05-30.html#read_more
JC
31 May 12 at 7:59 pm
JC
I’m pretty well-informed, I’ve been around the traps, inside-out, and upside down, I’m well educated, I’m a smart guy. You know all this well enough. The fact I am knowledgeable about public issues and persons is no surprise to you. The REAL question is how does faggy old CL know M C-T is an RC?
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 8:00 pm
Patton:
You actually check to see a person’s religion? Really?
JC
31 May 12 at 8:02 pm
Faggy old CL even used to go into bat for Lefty Kim and Luvvie Bahnisch. Guess why? Chop, chop, chop, chop.
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 8:02 pm
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Irving J
31 May 12 at 8:02 pm
JC
Dude, I knew about M C-T years ago. And I now KNOW how twisted faggy old CL thinks.
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 8:04 pm
JC Patton:
You actually check to see a person’s religion? Really?
yeah, so do I, especially the jesuit network.
coz
31 May 12 at 8:06 pm
left or right is indifferent to the blech pope, as long as his stooges are in control.
coz
31 May 12 at 8:07 pm
Right, a conversation needs to be had as to why so many ALP folk have different surnames to their spouse.
I recon it’s a deliberate ploy to avoid association.
Albo,Plibersek,Bligh,Butler,Arbib, Conroy…..
Why??
Jumpnmcar
31 May 12 at 8:08 pm
He doesn’t go in to bat for me, Peter: a person somewhat more to the centre of politics than Mr Bahnisch.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 8:10 pm
Watch out coz, you’ll get banned for ‘anti-religious bigotry’ – THE most exquisite ironic phrase I have ever read.
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 8:11 pm
There’s a good reason. Very few people like you stepford. Very , very few. But you know that already.
JC
31 May 12 at 8:14 pm
You need to find a new coke dealer PP.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 8:15 pm
You’re not coming on the escape pod with me, JC. You blather so much you probably can talk in vacuum anyway.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 8:17 pm
Walker will win comfortbaly.
Thare are large interstate funds going into Walker’s campaign from everyday Americans and Tea Partiers around the country.
The Tea Party is still powerful as the run-off with Tea _artry favourite Ted Cruz in the GOP primary in Texas for the Senate is showing with
JamesK
31 May 12 at 8:17 pm
Why??
Dude, I used to think it was about being modern and all. You know, the metrosexual man and the fully liberated woman.
However so many of them get charged with criminal activity that it could actually be a sort of insurance policy to avoid being tarred with the same brush.
FFS, lets take a serious look at this. Plibs is married to a convicted heroin importer and she’s minister for health. Have you ever heard of anything more fucking absurdly ironic in your life.
JC
31 May 12 at 8:19 pm
James
walker needs at least 10% of the vote to break even against Demolition Party voter fraud. and with this election it could be as high as 15%, so theoretically it’s neck and neck… if you know what I mean.
JC
31 May 12 at 8:21 pm
Soviet stooge Lee Rhiannon is the Greens spokeswoman for “democracy”.
Fisky
31 May 12 at 8:21 pm
Stepford
What Patton is saying is that he doesn’t quite like you either although he doesn’t like papists CL and Gab.
JC
31 May 12 at 8:26 pm
Oh yea. It’s like the old Woody Allen movie about everything is opposite with these appalling people.
JC
31 May 12 at 8:29 pm
thass right, you papists need to recant from the satanic cult.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=0ospdI1_vkc
coz
31 May 12 at 8:29 pm
Yep. She’s against it.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 8:29 pm
PP is in moderation. Comments will be released at random when I check the moderation queue and/or the spam filter.
Sinclair Davidson
31 May 12 at 8:30 pm
IT
Don’t we all pet? Got a number?
Peter Patton
31 May 12 at 8:30 pm
Looks like Greens-preferencing Bob Brown disciple, Peter Patton – described memorably by Jason Soon as a “flaming old inner-city queer” – didn’t take Sinclair’s advice re medication.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 8:31 pm
Reince Priebus is the chairman of the Republican National Committee.
He is also a previous chair of the Republican Party of Wisconsin and got Walker elected in the first place.
The Dems aren’t gonna get away cheatring this one.
Al Turd Franken’s cheat in 2008 will not be repeated
JamesK
31 May 12 at 8:35 pm
ex doctors, you know how it is.
coz
31 May 12 at 8:35 pm
You’re an uber left-winger on almost everything, Steve. The Hi-Alanist ‘centrist’ act collapsed ages ago, you appalling clown.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 8:39 pm
CL, you’ve missed Peter’s theory that we knew each other in real life. Rather amusing, I thought. He manages to get things wrong in almost as bad a fashion as you.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 8:41 pm
It was at least entertaining when PP used to write about how he was stepping out for a night of drugs ‘n debauchery with other ageing Hall & Oates fans from the early 80s. They reminded me of poor old Vito and friends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4V3jM7x3bk
C.L.
31 May 12 at 8:47 pm
well, if he’s in the ‘moderation’ queue, I have these vague memories of a locum at my GP’s in Potts Point who was an utter sleaze. Doesn’t mean I approve of papists though!
coz
31 May 12 at 8:47 pm
oooh I’m in the moderation queue toooooo! musta struck a nerve.
[Don't know why that happened. Sinc]
coz
31 May 12 at 8:48 pm
Haaretz:
What a c-cks-cker Obummer is.
JamesK
31 May 12 at 8:49 pm
This didn’t appear to get much notice today:
Labor: Rorts’R'Us.
Gab
31 May 12 at 8:50 pm
From what I’ve seen in the US press, the Dems have pretty much resigned themselves to a loss in Wisconsin. They’re all like “whether we win or lose, what matters is November”, which I read as ‘we’re fairly certain we’re not going to win here’; as opposed to “once more unto the breach dear comrades once more” which would indicate they’re confident.
Oh come on
31 May 12 at 8:51 pm
Oh yeah, JC. I forgot about Mr Plibersek having that job etc. Of course that’s another matter.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 8:53 pm
I’ll be quiet now.
coz
31 May 12 at 8:53 pm
secretly Ms Pilbersick is just admiring Mr Abbott’s looks. that’s why she had the posters up.
if he was non-handsome, she wouldn’t bother putting them up. obviously.
candy
31 May 12 at 8:57 pm
True. can’t blame her for that. She is only human.
Gab
31 May 12 at 9:00 pm
Finally the pretence is lited at the NYT:
Our Imbecilic Constitution
JamesK
31 May 12 at 9:05 pm
Holy hell. Is it too much to ask that governments exhibit some basic competence?
Jarrah
31 May 12 at 9:07 pm
Peter’s in moderation but not Mk50? Interesting.
Adam Kane
31 May 12 at 9:09 pm
oooh I’m in the moderation queue toooooo! musta struck a nerve.
[Don't know why that happened. Sinc]
oh ok.
coz
31 May 12 at 9:16 pm
Quite so, Nilk.
In fact after Western Australia secedes, we plan to have chain-smoking slim-jim-eating honey badgers patrol the newly-reinforced and nuclear-power-electrified rabbit proof fence, to keep all the Eastern States reffos out.
sdog
31 May 12 at 9:17 pm
James, it kind of is imbecilic how a president is elected – allegedly with a program to benefit the country – but also has to worry about the fate of his House colleagues just two years later. This is fine for ratcheting up expenditure (indeed, it drives the ratcheting up of expenditure) but it makes meaningful ensmallification of government – needed now as never before – almost impossible. In this sense, what the Founders envisaged regarding limited and constrained government is rendered not only impossible but actually antithetical to how the machinery works, in practice. Only the popularisation – and hence, electoral necessity – of limited government can alter this dynamic. And to achieve this requires that half of the population now on welfare to happily give it up for the greater good. Either that or the system crashes and burns and the polity is re-built, sans escalating ‘entitlements,’ from scratch. Maybe that’s what should have happened back in 2008.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 9:18 pm
Don’t forget, Craig Thompson, Gai Brodtmann (Mrs Uhlmann), and dozens of others.
The Labor party is now more like a sect or at best a class than a political party.
The road into a seat in parliament in Labor is always exactly the same now: Uni ratbag politics -> union ratbag politics (either as an advisor or lawyer to a union) -> marriage to someone else inside the “movement” then find a way to lever yourself into a seat in parliament though less than honourable means (the only way to do so in Labor) then once in, jobs for the wife / hubby, the in laws and the kids (seriously, even cursory digging turns up dozens of these relations, it’s sick).
So the reason for almost none of the newer technocrats taking their husbands name is that the “labor movement” is the most disgustingly nepotistic and incestuous organisation in Australia (seriously). Blood lines run thick, political marriages are the norm and it’d look a little obvious to the public that there’s something very wrong if you had Mr X (Senator), Mrs X (State MP), Ms X (union advisor), Mr Y (Fairfax reporter) and Mrs Y (union official) running around.
twostix
31 May 12 at 9:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fEUToYpL98&
coz
31 May 12 at 9:22 pm
Rudd and Beazley’s wives go by their maiden names too.
Personally I think it’s shame. Would you want to be associated with that lot?
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 9:24 pm
You don’t get it, Jazza. Twice a century, the infantile left gets control of the national treasury. Hundreds of billions of dollars of free money magically appears in our credit account that we can do what we like with. So it’s one big kids’ party for three years until the adults arrive home, punish the ring-leaders and have to clean up the disgusting mess.
Tom
31 May 12 at 9:27 pm
There must be cases by now of Mr X-Y and his wife Mrs A-B who have children and a puzzle as to what surname(s) they should have.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 9:29 pm
I agree Cl but the main problem is that America has been post-costitutional for 40 years.
The commerce clause has to redefined by the SCOTUS and made to mean what the Founder’s clearly intended as also the ridiculous interpretation of the right to privacy provision.
The Tea Party is in for the long haul.
Non-permanent ‘non-political-class’ GOP members of Congress/citizen legislators and the Senate will campaign to have less power.
They’ll be called out as ‘extremists’ by the liar-steves of the world.
JamesK
31 May 12 at 9:29 pm
I don’t think its a deliberate attempt to confuse, I think it is just a reflection of the strange way in which they see the world. These people don’t give a stuff about nepotism or marriage and family. Every person is an ‘individual’ who is therefore not attached, by definition, and so above any criticism. They shriek loud and clear if ever any comment is made about such relationships. They hold to the doctrine of separation of pillows. Only one they know.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 9:29 pm
Steve – see Joshua Gans on the topic.
Sinclair Davidson
31 May 12 at 9:31 pm
Twostix, loving your work.
If it were only nepotism, it wouldn’t be so bad.
But there is always, always financial shenanigans involving the public teat, or the union mammary. From their puerile student politics days, when they first get hold of the keys to the student union cookie-jar, it’s all they know – the defined-benefit parliamentary super is the prize, the end to which all the means leads.
James in Melbourne
31 May 12 at 9:33 pm
Can I suggest a tiny edit , jazzabelle?
Is it too much to ask this government exhibit some basic competence?
JC
31 May 12 at 9:36 pm
Memo to Pliberdolt: G’Lard is against gay marriage and wants to ship boat people to Malaysia. Also your party brought in mandatory detention.
So yeah, fuck you.
Feral Abacus
31 May 12 at 9:39 pm
It’s a protest against the patriarchal hegemony and its brutal repression of gender homogenisation as the natural order of classless society.
Irving J
31 May 12 at 9:43 pm
Surely a sexual/romatic liasions directory between the political and ‘presstitute’ classes is overdue.
coz
31 May 12 at 9:43 pm
Gosh: Joshua Gains was talking about baby naming on the second date? That’s optimism.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 9:44 pm
If you want real lefty surname weirdness, go no further than Anna Bligh. She loathed her father (but kept his name on marrying Greg Withers but when they had children they were given the surname “Frances” – which was Bligh’s mother’s maiden name. The Bligh name was out because she considered her alcoholic father to be scum. (He was a troubled war veteran but that didn’t interest Anna). Withers was verboten because Bligh wanted to send a message that she was against patriarchy. So the solution was that her children would bear the surname of her grandfather. LOL.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 9:45 pm
It’s telling that Big Kim’s wife wanted to keep being an Annus rather than a Beazley.
Feral Abacus
31 May 12 at 9:47 pm
No, she’s not.
She says she is, but everyone knows that’s just political expedience. Otherwise known as a fib.
Adam Kane
31 May 12 at 9:47 pm
Weird, huh.
JC
31 May 12 at 9:48 pm
Patrilineality is stupid.
coz
31 May 12 at 9:48 pm
CL – re: A Bligh
It certainly didn’t make her better at her job.
Whatever that was.
kae
31 May 12 at 9:50 pm
It’s stood us in good stead for a few millenia, but what the hell, if a Barry can marry a Bruce who gives a shit?
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 9:51 pm
Who knows. In her beloved Soviet Union they used to send people to gulags for being gay.
Feral Abacus
31 May 12 at 9:52 pm
spoken like a good beta, now run along while your women get to work on alpha c*ck.
Irving J
31 May 12 at 9:53 pm
Irving, that’s stupidly and needlessly offensive, even if coz was a man, which she isn’t.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 10:00 pm
The surname trend is interesting. There are a lot of factors at work here. For example, I know several women whose professional practice before marriage meant it made sense to retain their maiden names. Then there is the natural progression away from the effacement of women that used to be the rule – remember Mr and Mrs John Smith? There are even men taking their wives’ surnames nowadays.
A previous colleague of mine was an Australian man with a German name who married a Japanese woman. They had two children, and decided to use a Western first name and her Japanese surname for one, and a Japanese first name and his Western surname for the other.
Jarrah
31 May 12 at 10:00 pm
Ms Gillard will support change to the marriage act when a focus group poll reaches a certain percentage point of approval. That’s where it’s at for that lot.
candy
31 May 12 at 10:01 pm
Andy Levy: “Basically I’m prepared to be the Braveheart of large sugary drinks.”
More anti-Bloomberg backlash from Twitter here.
sdog
31 May 12 at 10:03 pm
Only if it is not backed up by DNA proof.
Winston now steps back and watches the Lesbians Against The Patriarchy froth at the mouth.
Winston Smith
31 May 12 at 10:03 pm
And thus the natural order of things is restored Irving
Pickles
31 May 12 at 10:04 pm
Steve, if you think that anyone is going to get into the B Ark with you, you’re mad.
And no one likes you.
Because you’re creepy.
Winston Smith
31 May 12 at 10:05 pm
Da Ape has had quite a few powerful positions and we do lots of cozy pillow talk. No-one in their right mind would (or should) ever hire me anywhere near his ambit. I’ve changed my name on marriage; people need to know and I probably need to be reminded to be very discrete. Lately I’ve been termed ‘the trophy wife’, satisfactorily pigeonholed as not in the picture, and it’s best if people see it that way. His new PA caught sight of me in the car window and told him “She’s very beautiful”. Perceptions, you see – all she could possibly see was some blonde hair and a pair of sunglasses.
Sinclair, that Gans article was pathetic stuff; inner-city angst. The only reason children should not take a traditional patrilineal family name is if the family is seriously fractured in some way. Otherwise it is a clear signal of the loopy willingness of some parents to engage in experimentation with their kids headspace.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 10:05 pm
I thought about asking to go into the B ARk, but
it’s anti-Abbott for no good reason and spreading yucky rumours. can’t touch that.
candy
31 May 12 at 10:09 pm
Jazzabelle
I read you latest blog threads after I went there looking for the lambert stoush for a good laugh.
The thread about free trade is pretty decent but I really don’t think you have your heart in it, as it seems to lack passion. It could be just an incorrect opinion I have, but there you go. However overall I’d give it a decent mark. C-
Anyways, I really want to get to this point you raised in the thread. That idiot you refer to says:
In the US median incomes have been nearly stagnant for three decades, and male incomes have been steadily declining.
Your argument was:
As you know, this is perhaps the most important bit of crap in the entire leftwing armory of swill when they are attacking free market economics… but whad about Da US inaquality for the past 30 years. Here’s what you need to also add in your attempt to shoot this crap down.
Don’t obscure the fact that there actually was stagnant wages at the bottom for US workers. There actually is some kernel of truth to this. So don’t obfuscate like you normally do.
However instead of da inaquality there was actually a very significant move towards equality when one considers the number of people that arrived in the US from poor countries such as mexico. In other words their move and subsequent employment in the US actually reduced da inadaulity in the world.
Secondly and more importantly, ask these no hoper friends of yours on the left if they knew US aggregate total factor* income rose in the US during that period for the bottom 20% or so. It rose enormously in real terms despite the immigration shock of of perhaps 12 million illegals roughly constant number over the period), which in a nation with a 100 million workers is pretty fucking significant in the bottom 20%.
Just helping you out here.
* what the Americans refer to as total cost of a hire.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:09 pm
Kids want to share the same family name as their parents. It makes them feel like part of something.
The mrs and I aren’t married and the other day, teaching our boys their whole names (3 & 4) they asked with a little sadness why they, dad, grandma, grandpa, and great nanna are twostix but mum isn’t. Suddenly I find the topic of marriage on the front burner again.
People (who are invariably from boring stable middleclass homes themselves) who now want to play ill thought out trendy social engineering games with their kids are fucked in the head.
twostix
31 May 12 at 10:11 pm
Double barrelled names give me the shits.They don’t make the lines on dole forms long enough to write Jaiden-Leigh Cholmondley-Warner.
splatacrobat
31 May 12 at 10:13 pm
I don’t even think steve is going to be lucky enough to command on the B Ark, not with all those telephone sanitisers around.
Quentin George
31 May 12 at 10:13 pm
I will also say that this stupid bullshit surname business is limited almost exclusively to the white collar middle class.
Nobody else cares.
twostix
31 May 12 at 10:15 pm
Normally it would be a beta male in disguise pretending to have metrosexual slickness that’s involved in this stuff. It would be good to bring back the guillotine from time to time as a way of improving the gene pool.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:15 pm
I’m banned now.
coz
31 May 12 at 10:15 pm
Coz how can you be banned if your comment appears? Tell me how that works please.
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:17 pm
Matrineality can never be in doubt. Patrineality is bogus.
coz
31 May 12 at 10:17 pm
Coz
Shoo off.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:18 pm
Time for Wedding Bells, twostix? A great excuse for a good party time. You are right. Kids like to feel part of something whole and important, like a named family.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 10:19 pm
Gab
I think the idiot is hitting the shift key instead of return by mistake and doesn’t see it going through and therefore thinks s/he’s banned.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:19 pm
If young adults these days don’t give much of a hoot about the cultural, anthropological and biological history of “marriage” such that they think that of course same sex partners should be entitled to have a wedding, then one should hardly be surprised that they are willing to be innovative in terms of surnames for children, too.
The latter is much less culturally significant than the former, by the way, and you have to be pretty stupid to think that it is only young “beta males” who will negotiate about kid’s surnames now.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 10:20 pm
I tried to make two or three posts in this matrineality discussion and got a ‘your email address is not valid’ response. Essentially 3 of my posts were deleted.
coz
31 May 12 at 10:21 pm
Pity the poor kid with surname Gillard in these times.
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:22 pm
No there aren’t.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 10:22 pm
perhaps typed incorrectly? you appear to be using two different emails?
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:25 pm
Mrs Steve and Mr Gillard?
candy
31 May 12 at 10:28 pm
Your posts were deleted because you’re an imbecile, Coz, not because you’ve been banned like you ought to be, you half wit.
You got the message:‘your email address is not valid’
… because you forgot to add the @ part in the address or left a space where you shouldn’t. Then, instead of back paging with the arrow, you must have gone forward and lost the entire thing.
And if you thought you were banned why are you even posting comments that you’re banned, you idiot.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:29 pm
Coz – I can’t find your comments.
Sinclair Davidson
31 May 12 at 10:29 pm
I will defer to your seemingly deep knowledge of beta males steve, you mean the ones running around with chic’s hairdos?
Irving J
31 May 12 at 10:31 pm
Obviously I checked the email address for errors, there were none. I got better things to do and other places to go than people who can’t cope with challenges.
coz
31 May 12 at 10:32 pm
Don’t even bother and waste you’re time. The maroon lost them like I explained.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:32 pm
.
test
31 May 12 at 10:33 pm
ignore my comment in moderation, Sinclair. Thank you.
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:34 pm
Yes there were, otherwise you wouldn’t be getting that error message.
You’re the only one who seems challenged.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:34 pm
How old r u Irving? Haven’t quite got over the loss of short back and sides in the 70′s yet? Or are you like CL, and have a 70 year old soul trapped in a body decades younger?
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 10:37 pm
Porn actor wanted for mailing body parts to Canadian Conservative party HQ.
WTF???
http://www.smh.com.au/world/porn-actor-wanted-over-body-parts-in-the-mail-20120531-1zkbk.html
There are a lot of weird crimes these days what with the face eating and now this
jtfsoon
31 May 12 at 10:39 pm
jesus christ what a 3rd rate troll! where are the usual suspects?
Irving J
31 May 12 at 10:39 pm
It’s been a good run – 6 years but alas the times are a changing and now this mans better half (who just a few short years ago agreed on the needlessless of marriage) is now rejecting the ancient anti-marriage culture handed down to us and demanding, demanding! that we be wed.
Today we find out that two other mutual friends are having the same mini counter-revolutions.
Uncivilised radicals, the lot of them.
twostix
31 May 12 at 10:40 pm
Reason Magazine: The U.S. government created the obesity epidemic that it’s now trying to fix.
And the last two paras echo what many here have been trying to explain to the likes of Steve, who challenged at 6:16pm “Do libertarian types have any ideas at all to suggest for the reduction of the rates of obesity?”
So there ya go.
Now get yer paws off my Big Gulp.
sdog
31 May 12 at 10:40 pm
Coz, even strong matrilineal societies are mostly patrivirilocal (in various permutations and combinations) in their residence arrangements.
For the uninitiated, the lineal relationship goes from mother’s brother to sister’s son, but the child lives with the father’s people (technically non-related in a strict matrilineal society) until a mature age, when he goes to join his matrilineal group and take control of resources there. He brings his wife into this locality, although his and her biological children belong to her brother rather than to him; thus his biological children remove themselves to his wife’s locality at maturity and his inheritors, his sister’s children, move into his locality to join him, as he is their mother’s brother. The mother’s brother is thus a significant male other indeed to the sister’s son.
Such systems demonstrate that even if an attempt is made to trace matrilineal descent, the over-riding social impulse tends to be to allow men to keep control of and power over inherited resources. It is not given to women merely by dint of biological tracing of descent. Human societies developed with men in a dominant role; get used to it, Coz.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 10:44 pm
John H 30 May @2.52pm
‘Well if those dumb ass ideologues starting thinking about this issue in relation to human developmental dynamics they might begin to realise that rants about rights have little to do with improving the plight of aboriginal children.‘
I am surprised that Prof Fiona Stanley a long time researcher on child development, Australian of the Year, Director of Telethon Institute of Child Development and ABC Board Member has not spoken out about this heinous activity in a child’s development and the effect over generations of children [and of research]. Full stop.
‘ It may sound crazy, after this research career, to become a sort of mini-bureaucrat, but it set up my networks and databases all over Western Australia. I was very disappointed that I hadn’t got a research job, but in my two years there I met every midwife in Western Australia and I was able to revamp the entire midwives database, I was able to link it with all perinatal and infant deaths, I was able to actually start my research – and research infrastructure, if you like.’1977 The Long Path to Career Security
Jessie
31 May 12 at 10:49 pm
What a load of crap sfb. This is a grown-ups site – people who have born and bred children. You have no idea. Why don’t you fuck off to some adolescent playground. There’s a good boy…
Lazlo
31 May 12 at 10:50 pm
God I love these currency markets finally. Short the euro, go to the gym, talk stuff over the web about the uselessness of the morons in the Liars party. Remind Stepford he’s an omega male who in an earlier life would have been destined for servitude. Then in the afternoon cover the position, wait for the Euroweenies to come in and bid it up and then short again.
JC
31 May 12 at 10:52 pm
Hearty congratulations to all of them, twostix. A triple wedding coming up! One better than the end of the TV Pride and Prejudice.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 10:54 pm
Rub some bacon on it, Coz.
There’s a good girl.
sdog
31 May 12 at 10:54 pm
Lizzie B
get used to it, Coz.
No, it’s unGodly, satanic even, the hatred and contempt of women. Only satanic types ‘get used to it’.
coz
31 May 12 at 10:56 pm
lol great to see you back here, Coz. You liven things up.
Gab
31 May 12 at 10:58 pm
See? It worked.
Always listen to the Dog.
sdog
31 May 12 at 11:00 pm
Great JC. How do I get you to work for my super fund?
Lazlo
31 May 12 at 11:02 pm
Of all the issues here Steve this is one that I actually expected you to make a slight defence of. I’m sure your kids have your last name.
But no, if the “young people” are doing it, (or what you can glean young people are doing from reading The Drum and The Age) you’re totally down with it.
Why? Because you’re midlife Steve and you’re, like, totally hip to the young people’s cause duuuude.
twostix
31 May 12 at 11:03 pm
Big night tomorrow and in July too. However I think tomorrow evening our time will basically determine the course of the November election.
US payroll stats come out. If they are disappointing the Kenyan is cooked as I think it will be too late for him providing Romney understands the significance and mortally wounds him throughout June. Even if the numbers come out ok in the following months Romney will have built up the big momentum that won’t allow the Kenyan to recover.
I think the election for Romney could be decided tomorrow evening.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:04 pm
The Telegraph: Insurer Euler Hermes suspends cover on exports to Greece
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:04 pm
You don’t lazlo. I booted my clients about a year ago. Don’t want any. Ungrateful pigs they are.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:05 pm
Well coz, I don’t bring religion into it. Not my bag.
Hatred and contempt of women is despicable, I agree. But trying to remake the world in the image of something that it patently is not, as in 70′s domineering and separatist feminism and the current flow-on from it in naming nonsense and such – that is inviting the combination of a bashed head against a brick wall.
There are better ways to recognise and civilise the world for women, which is not an impossible project, in fact, it is quite achievable. These ways come from the wisdom of women’s lived experiences and from recognizing how different we are from men, as well as pointing out our advantages and similarities. The starting point is to agree that both men and women historically have much that they could be bitter about, and to move on from that without descending into bile at men or complete rejection of social conventions that have proven their utility.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 11:10 pm
The Telegraph: Only the ECB can save the euro now
Do the single currency’s 17 members sincerely want to save the euro?
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:11 pm
That would be super fund pigs you booted?
Lazlo
31 May 12 at 11:12 pm
BBC: Doctors in Britain Going on Strike
They don’t want their retirement age raised from 65 to 68.
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:15 pm
James
I saw that Pew stuff earlier. however I think it’s bit of a follower in the sense that if the economy was looking better in the EU the weenies would all be talking the Euro up. So it’s a bad indicator I think. It’s how people will vote that’s important, I reckon.
————-
If anyone feels deliriously happy at the moment for some reason, there’s Society General’s Albert Edwards to send you on suicide watch. This fucker even gets me shitting in my dacks at times. His macro stuff sends me into a fetal position.
ALBERT EDWARDS: HAHAHAHA, The Bulls Aren’t Laughing Anymore, The Stock Market Will Collapse And All Hope Will Be Lost
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/albert-edwards-nobody-is-laughing-at-me-anymore-the-stock-market-will-collapse-and-all-hope-will-be-lost-2012-5#ixzz1wS8ggn50
JC
31 May 12 at 11:17 pm
WSJ: Wisconsin Unions See Ranks Drop Ahead of Recall Vote
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:17 pm
My gosh, people are making idiots of themselves tonight. More so than usual, I mean.
First it was Irving telling coz she was a beta male whose women who be off to service the alphas (like Irving and Lazlo I assume.)
Now it’s me being a non breeding adolescent, even when it was only yesterday I referred to my first born in 2000.
Look you ignorant twit – I like it when women take the husband’s name, and the kids do too. (Even though I doubt it’s going to corrode society if parents do something else but provide a stable and happy home for their kids.) I am against gay marriage, but actually think the rot set in when de facto heterosexual partnering was given the same legal status as marriage (and becoming a parent via IVF and artificial insemination became completely unremarkable as well, leading to the idea that anyone can “manufacture” a biological family.)
I’m actually more conservatively inclined than anyone here who prattles on about “beta males” but has been in a de facto relationship.
What I am showing up is that the criticisms made here on socio/political/sexual grounds (such as “it’s only beta males who would agree to their kids not having their name; all “progessive” are beta males with girly hair, if not actually gay) are just ludicrously out of touch with any proper understanding of cultural change, and really an embarrassing advertisement for social conservatism.
steve from brisbane
31 May 12 at 11:18 pm
Yes there is a satan and it’s Albert Edwards.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:19 pm
No, a gaggle or greedy miserable wealthy dudes.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:23 pm
oops.. of
JC
31 May 12 at 11:23 pm
The Euro is doomed as a project. It is as inherently unsound as Emissions Trading, and derives from the same elites. But Europe is becoming globally irrelevant. It will be like discussing Scottish independence in a couple of decades.
It’s not a matter of if, but when (subject of entertaining debate around here nonetheless)
Lazlo
31 May 12 at 11:24 pm
Love that…
Still there is no question of the trend change in opinion on the euro, JC.
The euoweenie leaders are used to making decisions without regard to the will of the people.
Why would they change now?
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:24 pm
Nicked yourself whilst man-scaping again, Steve?
sdog
31 May 12 at 11:24 pm
yep
except for the wannabe dictators
the corrosive effect of cultural socialism on the family, morals and ethics.
wrong blog
Irving J
31 May 12 at 11:26 pm
Gosh!…like liar-stevefb™ is like….gosh… like soo more conservatively minded than like anybody else here on the Cat despite being a lying beta…
Like roooly…gosh!
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:27 pm
Rub some bacon on it, Steve. sdog’s universal cure-all. Very funny vid.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 11:27 pm
and Satan actually spoke about Australia back in May.
ALBERT EDWARDS: This Is The Biggest Bubble In Recent History, And It’s Heading For The Mother Of All Hard Landings.
So what’s Edwards’ big complaint with Australia?
Because Australia has gone so long without a recession, everyone has been convinced that it’s managed by geniuses, and that the economy there is solved. This is classic bubble thinking.
But Australia has telltale signs of a bubble.
5 of the world’s most expensive cities are now in Australia (Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane, and Perth).
Not one Australian city falls into traditional measures of “affordability.”
The entire Australian economy is premised on the wheels not coming off China.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/albert-edwards-australia-is-the-biggest-bubble-in-recent-history-2012-5?nr_email_referer=1#ixzz1wSC1VEao
JC
31 May 12 at 11:30 pm
ell coz, I don’t bring religion into it. Not my bag.
Hatred and contempt of women is despicable, I agree. But trying to remake the world in the image of something that it patently is not, as in 70′s domineering and separatist feminism and the current flow-on from it in naming nonsense and such – that is inviting the combination of a bashed head against a brick wall.
Lizziw There are better ways to recognise and civilise the world for women, which is not an impossible project, in fact, it is quite achievable. These ways come from the wisdom of women’s lived experiences and from recognizing how different we are from men, as well as pointing out our advantages and similarities. The starting point is to agree that both men and women historically have much that they could be bitter about, and to move on from that without descending into bile at men or complete rejection of social conventions that have proven their utility.
Unfortunately for the godforsaken, no, that is not how it works, I’m sure the heathens would offer you employment or status based on your ‘opinyuns’ and after all, we are governed by heathens. Despite my many anti-catholic statements, I have more in common with catholics than I do ‘humanists’.
coz
31 May 12 at 11:31 pm
Hear, hear. Well said, Lizzie.
Sense and sensibility.
Gab
31 May 12 at 11:32 pm
^
got the formatting wrong. My comment is only in the last para.
coz
31 May 12 at 11:33 pm
Sorry to tell you Steve, but you still have a lot of growing up to do..
Lazlo
31 May 12 at 11:36 pm
I’m not into this ‘we’re all in it together BS’. One is either with God or not.
coz
31 May 12 at 11:36 pm
The intermarriage thing in the ALp is relatively easily explained if you look at it from the perspective of a minority religion. They go off on camps and conferences together from a young age, Just like you would in some Pentecostal movement. You can imagine the young Paul Howes at 15 getting all excited about his “camp girlfriend”.
Look at Bob Ellis. Brought up as a strict Seventh Day Adventist. Goes to uni and abandons his religion. But as he is culturally religious, his abandoned religion is completely substituted with the ALP. What a tragic bastard.
entropy
31 May 12 at 11:41 pm
With Lazlo and IT mentoring you Steve, you may have a chance to be cured by 2030.
Token
31 May 12 at 11:41 pm
What does this even mean?
I thought we talked about you giving up the “Hi I’m Steve and I’m a conservative” routine.
twostix
31 May 12 at 11:42 pm
No no. Only a severely testosterone-challenged weakling would allow his children to have anyone’s surname but his own.
C.L.
31 May 12 at 11:43 pm
Good for OZ:
WSJ: Seattle Challenges Coal-Export Plans
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:44 pm
No. What you have is a moralist stick up your whatsit, you fascist.
Nothing personal, of course.
Gab
31 May 12 at 11:44 pm
Steve, if you don’t pipe down I’ll make you read a German translation of Atlas Shrugged at tomorrow’s class.
Infidel Tiger
31 May 12 at 11:45 pm
WSJ: Car Battery Start-Ups Fizzle
Armed With $1.26 Billion in U.S. Grants, Firms Opened Nine Factories; Jobs and Production Lag Goals
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:47 pm
The Kenyan’s goose is about to be cooked.
There’s an employment indicator released the Thursday before first Friday of the month payrolls data and it was light.
Also first quarter GDP was revised down to a miserable 1.9%. Although the relationship between the Thurs and Fri employement data points can at times be quite divergent, the numbers coming out have been disappoining setting the stage for tomorrow’s number.
Anal(syts) would be right now revising down their forecasts for payrolls.
All this shit will be over the news tonight in the US.
Romney “knows how to kill well” and he needs to move in for the kill. This is the moment as I’m sure his campaign knows.
Go Mitt. Take the fucker out of the game.
JC
31 May 12 at 11:48 pm
Coz, I respect your religious feelings, but I reject your making these feelings the totality of your arguments.
On formatting – highlight and then copy (control + c) the words you wish to comment on, go to the comment box and firstly press b-quote, then paste in the words (control + v), and immediately after them, press b-quote again.
Press enter twice to move your cursor down to the next para. Then start to write your comment.
This works for me.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 11:49 pm
More from the ministry of silly names:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9295175/Dont-give-your-children-silly-names-just-for-the-buzz.html
Viva
31 May 12 at 11:51 pm
Fun lefty Micky Kaus:
Obama’s instantaneous embrace of Nutting’s chart–a calculation so absurd even Ezra Klein tried to change the subject, since (among other things) it attributes all but $140 billion of increased 2009 spending most of Obama’s $800+ billion stimulus to Bush, while giving Obama credit for the repayment of Bush’s TARP loans***–raises an interesting pair of possibilities:
a) Does Obama really not have an intuitive feeling for how much he’s been spending? That’s a little like not remembering how much sex you’re having. He’s the one doing the spending, after all. Even if he wasn’t, you’d think an ordinary BS detector would kick in. It’s one thing to expect MSNBC viewers to be credulous. It’s another thing …
or
b) Obama doesn’t care if it’s BS as long as it might work.**
JamesK
31 May 12 at 11:51 pm
Hot milk time. Plus a spoonful of honey, I think. Milk contains tryptophanes which induce a good sleep. Honey is readily absorbed glucose, which also helps sleep. Biblical land of milk and honey – nomadic pastoralists living off live cattle and wild bees. Judeo-Christian culture is old and still going. Well done, I guess.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
31 May 12 at 11:53 pm
Ebtropy
Look at Bob Ellis. Brought up as a strict Seventh Day Adventist. Goes to uni and abandons his religion. But as he is culturally religious, his abandoned religion is completely substituted with the ALP. What a tragic bastard.
weally? I didn’t know Bob was SDA background. Interesting.
coz
31 May 12 at 11:56 pm
LizB Coz, I respect your religious feelings, but I reject your making these feelings the totality of your arguments.
Then you are with satan, obviously.
coz
31 May 12 at 11:58 pm
hahahahaha. You crack em up, coz.
Gab
31 May 12 at 11:59 pm
Yep coz. Satanic Verses.
Put me on your hit list.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
1 Jun 12 at 12:01 am
This dude adds more reasons why June will be an important/pivotal month.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2012/05/june-2012-could-be-americas-pivotal-month/670531
JC
1 Jun 12 at 12:03 am
Good grief, has it been a month already? The Telegraph is running its monthly front page anti-gun hysteria:
Fears that NSW is under the gun
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/fears-that-nsw-is-under-the-gun/story-fn7y9brv-1226377827009
Look DT, we’ve got the toughest gun laws in the western world. Stop being such a bunch of sooks.
twostix
1 Jun 12 at 12:09 am
Um, I think someone should make the observation that a past experience indicates that it may not be the best idea to dwell on religion in discussions with coz….
Steve from brisbane
1 Jun 12 at 12:11 am
Klein is no fan of Romney and I think he’s correct
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 12:12 am
well that’s how it is folks, one is either with God or with satan, there is no middle ground, no neutrality, just enormous numbers of people trying to pretend there is some middle ground/humanist/neutral position. I am not deceived.
coz
1 Jun 12 at 12:14 am
Obama, Romney in virtual ties in NV, CO, IA NBC/Marist polls
Nice
Alex Pundit
1 Jun 12 at 12:14 am
Why, Steve? Coz’s not vitriolic nor does she fly into a spittle-flecked rage. She’s not being nasty, merely expressing her opinion. But you’re right, you don’t have to engage. No one has a gun to your head.
Gab
1 Jun 12 at 12:16 am
The utterly brilliant John Yoo at NRO in yet another take-down of yet more Obummer & NYT hypocrisies:
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 12:17 am
Honey and milk in the sublime Song of Songs, 4: 9-11.
C.L.
1 Jun 12 at 12:31 am
“No there aren’t.”
Ever heard of The White Stripes, Infidel?
Jarrah
1 Jun 12 at 12:34 am
The Currency Lad channelling Phil… Creepy.
Les Majesty
1 Jun 12 at 12:34 am
Have you no sense of romance, Les?
Sad.
Gab
1 Jun 12 at 12:36 am
If only you knew.
coz
1 Jun 12 at 12:37 am
Hey Les
Where’s Trannie phil these days as I haven’t seen him show up at Bird’s site. Did they have a falling out?
JC
1 Jun 12 at 12:39 am
Yep. Elephant is a great album.
However, no man in history has every taken his wife’s name.
Infidel Tiger
1 Jun 12 at 12:42 am
Maybe ‘steve’ is short for Stepahnie?
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 12:44 am
The Song of Songs is “creepy” says one half of the Steve/Les bromance. LOL.
Crisps and red cordial are under your tongue, my bro – my promised one;
And the scent of your overalls is like the scent of Pinkenba.
———————————————
Really, Dennis – ya think?
And get this:
C.L.
1 Jun 12 at 12:46 am
“However, no man in history has every taken his wife’s name.”
So Jack White isn’t a man?
Jarrah
1 Jun 12 at 12:49 am
Biologically it’s possible I guess.
Infidel Tiger
1 Jun 12 at 12:51 am
This would be the Jack and Meg White who publically insisted that they are brother and sister.
Good example.
twostix
1 Jun 12 at 1:00 am
Jazz
You haven’t recovered since your suggestion that the US healthcare system was worse that Mauritania. You;re sill digging.
Le us know when you’ve reach Beijing.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:07 am
Jack White is simply one I thought you might have heard of, IT. The rest aren’t so famous, but the small number that have gone that way is growing. Who cares, anyway. People can call themselves whatever they want.
Jarrah
1 Jun 12 at 1:11 am
Jeremy, you haven’t recovered since your insistence that the US healthcare system was “second to none”. One of the half-dozen times in the history of Catallaxy you’ve tried to enter a discussion and actually contribute, and you screw it up. No wonder you’re so bitter.
Jarrah
1 Jun 12 at 1:14 am
W
You do.
How about the grief you gave people when you changed for fat fingers and being called jazzabelle.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:14 am
And i was right, jazz. The US system is second to none. The insurance method is shitty but not the system. Like most lefties you get both things confused to suggest they are the same.
Jack White?
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:16 am
Fuuuck
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:21 am
“However, no man in history has every taken his wife’s name.”
John Winston Ono Lennon.
perturbed
1 Jun 12 at 1:23 am
The jury’s out on the precise relationship – past and present – between those two, Jarrah and twostix. And that’s clearly by design.
At best, they’re the exception that proves the rule. (I love the glorious irrationality of that canard)
Oh come on
1 Jun 12 at 1:23 am
Not legally, they can’t.
C.L.
1 Jun 12 at 1:27 am
Anyone see this. It’s pretty big. Former black Caucus member leave the Demolition Party and joins the Republicans citing that the Demolitionists are now too extreme.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:32 am
War on women:
American ABC is reporting that Obama supports killing female babies…
What an evil douchebag.
C.L.
1 Jun 12 at 1:41 am
Another:
Penn. Democratic leader defects to GOP, cites Catholic faith as reason
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 1:42 am
Don’t worry. The MSM will spin this as a deliberate ploy by political genius Obama and his crack team of campaign managers and advisors to cunningly engineer this defection to distract attention away from the fact that
they’re all a bunch of utter moronsumthat Obama’s policies have failed abysmally – againer that there was some negative economic data released recently.Oh come on
1 Jun 12 at 1:49 am
Pretty soon we’ll be hearing about Romney’s relentless negativity as the reason the Kenyan is looking like he;ll lose.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:50 am
More good news for the administration.
Chicago PMI comes in lowered than expected.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 1:54 am
Planned Parenthood: We Won’t Deny Women Sex-Selection Abortions
“The world’s leading women’s health and rights organizations, including the World Health Organization, do not believe that curtailing access to abortion services is a legitimate means of addressing sex selection, and have made clear that gender bias can only be resolved by addressing the underlying conditions that lead to it. And we agree. We support efforts that ensure girls and women have access to economic opportunity, including fair wages, basic health care, political participation, education, and a life free of violence and discrimination. Planned Parenthood works to ensure women and their families have access to high-quality nonjudgmental health services free of coercion, supported by information and counseling.”
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 1:56 am
Wow. They’re really jumping ship.
The Hill reports on more desperation:
Team Obama to donors: Get off sidelines and send cash now.
Send cash now! They sound like freshmen uni students who forgot to put some money away for the rent. LOL.
I didn’t back Romney in the primaries but I’ve got to admit, this Mormon bastard is a nightmare for these amateur-hour clowns.
C.L.
1 Jun 12 at 1:57 am
Nasty stupid Dem black leftist Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee on MSNBC:
“Well, Thomas, I think the next act be dragging women out of patient rooms into the streets and screaming over their bodies as they get dragged out of getting access to women’s health care. That’s what I feel like is occurring today with the legislation that is on the floor”
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:00 am
Link if you can stomach the nasty stupid cow
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:02 am
The gender selection issue in the abortion debate is going to wreck the Dems even more. This is one issue that will anger the fuck out of people.
I can’t believe the demolition allies are playing this up. Unbelievable.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 2:06 am
NRO Corner: A Result in Search of a Rationale
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:07 am
There’s an end-of-time character to the evil of the Left in Western cultural democracies and it appears to be accelerating.
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:11 am
CL, I think it’s a long bow to draw that he supports female infanticide, but the lack of condemnation is telling.
The only time they’d be prosecuted is if they went through with the termination anyway. If they got cold feet and referred on, there would be no problem – and I suspect there are a lot of docs who, not wishing to do the detective work, would do just that. The fucking girl-murdering bastards who request it would learn pretty quickly that their psychopathic behaviour wasn’t going to be tolerated in the broader community.
It would soon be clear that they were going within their own racial group for doctors who were willing to perform this particularly loathsome breed of sexist fuckery, at which point the Left’s onanistic worship of non-white people and cultures and its championing of women’s rights would come into direct collision. Results could be interesting.
If anything, the scales should medically be weighted against boys – since they’re the ones who suffer the consequences of sex-linked diseases in the first place. Any attempt to avoid a girl should be treated with utmost suspicion unless there are very, VERY strong objective grounds for it (e.g. to eliminate an almost certain carrier state, and then only on meticulous Clinical Genetics advice).
perturbed
1 Jun 12 at 2:11 am
The GOP is settling a huge trap on the Dems. A Republican has introduced a bill in the house making it illegal for anyone to obtain an abortion on gender selection. The Kenyan has said he will oppose the bill. Meanwhile the Demolition affiliates like planned parenthood are coming out against it creating even more noise.
This is seriously going to smoke them out. Lets see how his opposition works in the heartland states and places like Pennsylvania.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 2:12 am
Charles Krauthammer on FoxNews on the House bill that would make it a federal offense to perform an abortion based on the gender of the fetus:
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:15 am
Perturbed..
the quality of the bill doesn’t matter as the perception it creates in people’s minds. Of course it’s difficult, almost impossible to read the mind of someone wanting an abortion.
the intention is to paint the Dems as extremist turds as this sort of abortion is considered despicable and they will be painted as supporting it.
It’s about the perception… how many days or weeks will it take defending his position and wasting time. And the more he talks about the more it may create a seriously extremist image in people’s minds.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 2:17 am
Not really JC.
This followed blogger journalists with a secret camera filming Planned Parenthood personnel offering a gender-based abortion to the ‘client’
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:19 am
Good to see the GOP’ers playing for keeps here.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 2:21 am
Modern feminism:
Leftist first feminazi second feminist tghird and the interest of women last
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:21 am
Oh really? Is that what happened? Fme. Wow. I didn’t know.
JC
1 Jun 12 at 2:22 am
GENDERCIDE IN AMERICA: Undercover in NYC
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:25 am
Obama opposes ban on sex-selective abortions
That is precisely the same rationale Obummer gave for opposing legislation against late term abortions with live birth/infanticide in illinois.
Egggsactly the same
JamesK
1 Jun 12 at 2:31 am
Note the weasel words.
Oh come on
1 Jun 12 at 2:35 am
I wonder if there is some way the GOP could corner Obama into defending abortion of foetuses with the homosexual gene. The Left insist that the homosexual gene exists (it’s the only gene they actually believe in) so coupled with their support for abortion, they couldn’t possibly oppose abortions of suspected homosexual children.
Fisky
1 Jun 12 at 3:00 am
Or, better still, if someone were to openly promote the abortion mixed-race babies as a good thing in itself, how could Obama possibly oppose it? He’s already legitimized aborting girls as girls, so there is nothing stopping him giving the green light to people who want to abort mixed-race babies.
Fisky
1 Jun 12 at 3:02 am
They should put something in there about making it illegal to abort babies based on their mixed-race status as well. See how the Democrats react to that.
Fisky
1 Jun 12 at 3:06 am
Sort of. He’s a beta-male. Check out the doco, “It Might Get Loud.” What a poseur-fag.
Abu Chowdah
1 Jun 12 at 3:16 am
Rub some bacon on it, Steve. sdog’s universal cure-all. Very funny vid.
Quite so
sdog
1 Jun 12 at 4:08 am
Note the weasel words.
Very carefully chosen.
perturbed
1 Jun 12 at 4:40 am
The Zombie Gazette continues to present its war on the Coalition as news. At the same time, it has begun advertising its weekend edition on AJ’s brekky show. Someone with a pony tail is smoking crack.
Tom
1 Jun 12 at 7:17 am
This fred is getting too slow. Anything over 1200 comments makes my old browser wheeze.
DOOMLORD!!!
Please sir, may we have another?
Pretty please with bacon on it?
sdog
1 Jun 12 at 7:28 am
30 days to go when the ALP will finally clean up my CO2 polluted neighborhood and drop the global temps 3/5 of 5/8 of f^^ckall degrees.
Can’t wait, less CO2 means less leaf belching trees means bat roosts, less raking etc.
Seriously the answer is Cap and Trade Oxygen.
Lay back and think of Paul Krugman.
Rudiau
1 Jun 12 at 8:07 am
“This is not the McCain campaign.”
Punch back twice as hard.
sdog
1 Jun 12 at 8:09 am
means less bat roosts
i should proof read, need me coffee.
Rudiau
1 Jun 12 at 8:11 am
Yes, CL, the Wisdom of the Ages. Sheerly beautiful. God is love, and he who dwelleth in love … etc.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
1 Jun 12 at 8:40 am
As long as the man buys the ring, it is only good and proper the woman takes your name.
If a man buys a ring and takes a woman’s name he is a revolting imbecile, and a cuckhold.
.
1 Jun 12 at 8:43 am
You’re a c**t, that’s why.
.
1 Jun 12 at 8:45 am
Fisk, you are a freaking genius. Ring Romney now if you haven’t already spoken to him.
Infidel Tiger
1 Jun 12 at 8:53 am
Fuck me Combet is an idiot.
The Coalition dudes own shares in miners…who are going to appreciate because they are dropping Australia like a hot dog turd.
Combet thinks this means that Australian mines won’t close down.
What a shit eating, mouth breathing idiot. Never worked a day in his life or created a job anywhere.
Look at these SMH idiots. Not an example of bias, just stupidity.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/hypocrisy-call-over-carbon-tax-20120531-1zkt7.html#ixzz1wUVtWLZE
REALLY? WORKING IN THE ARMED FORCES COULD POSE A RISK TO YOUR WELL BEING OR IT MIGHT END IN YOUR DEATH? WHO’D THUNK IT?
.
1 Jun 12 at 9:02 am
Certainly is, twisted violent convulsions as it tries to fight off permanent sleep, before it falls into the tar pit.
Irving J
1 Jun 12 at 9:44 am
Homer Paxton, the all knowing psychologist to the Australian nation
jtfsoon
1 Jun 12 at 9:48 am
Well, thanks for you morning assessment, dot.
Not taken your anger management pills this morning yet?
steve from brisbane
1 Jun 12 at 9:51 am
You see anger, I see passion.
Gab
1 Jun 12 at 9:53 am
I see stoopid.
steve from brisbane
1 Jun 12 at 9:58 am
Then stop looking in the mirror ha ha
Gab
1 Jun 12 at 9:59 am
I’m sorry.
I just hate fascist c**ts. Such as yourself.
.
1 Jun 12 at 10:02 am
Here’s another one for Les, with the special thrill of it being said by Catallaxy’s favourite economist (the Krug):
steve from brisbane
1 Jun 12 at 10:03 am
Lazlo;
Are you saying that Scottish independence isn’t a vital question of our