Karoly is one of those alarmists who will stop at nothing to encourage fear about climate change. I find the words on his tee-shirt interesting:
You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows
is of course the title of a famous revolutionary Communist manifesto from 1969 which advocates violent overthrow of the government and a dictatorship of the proletariat. This is the Weather Underground movement.
Now we know what Karoly really thinks.
(HT: photo from Andrew Bolt’s blog)
Better stay away from those that carry round a firehose.
blogstrop
15 Jul 12 at 8:41 pm
I could go to great length and detail about Karoly but suffice to say he is an arrogant arsehole.
cohenite
15 Jul 12 at 8:43 pm
A catastrophist on the run.
More popcorn, please!
Rabz
15 Jul 12 at 8:44 pm
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Rabz
15 Jul 12 at 8:48 pm
Why do their T shirts, haircuts and style of spectacles tell you everything about them?
coz
15 Jul 12 at 8:48 pm
The specs are cool.
The idiot wearing them isn’t.
Rabz
15 Jul 12 at 8:53 pm
Now, all you economists know that teh Fabians funded the LSE (alma mater of M. Jagger), so I’m confused as to why you mention this band so frequently and with such reverence. Are there closet Fabians here?
coz
15 Jul 12 at 8:53 pm
The sad thing is that Karoly’s audience probably doesn’t even know the reference; just thinks it’s something cool or catchy and relevant.
Obama was mixed up with some of these guys, wasn’t he?
Supplice
15 Jul 12 at 8:53 pm
I imagine this is what Hitler would look like on casual Friday.
Infidel Tiger
15 Jul 12 at 8:55 pm
I have spent a good bit of time pondering Ayers and that Annenberg Project and then this week someone pointed out Valerie Jarrett’s mom was one of the founders of the Erik Erikson Institute in Chicago.
I think that shirt is a reference less to violence than this desire to change consciousness in the West. How people think. To keep the conceptual, abstract capacity weak, and then provide the concepts that frame the perceptions. And that’s when it’s thinking and not just pure emotion talking.
The literature revolving around Climate Change and sustainability from the beginning was always about reshaping the human mind and deemphasizing reason. There was even a name for it that sounds silly to our ears–the noosphere. Using the Greek word for mind.
We are all still mystified because all that modelling was never supposed to have to react with Enlightenment trained, fact filled, Western minds.
The Karoly’s of global academia seem to be waiting for that long sought transformation to finally eliminate criticism of them.
Robin
15 Jul 12 at 8:55 pm
Oh please. Karoly is most likely a prime turkey, but there’s no need for this nonsense.
The line comes from Bob Dylan’s song Subterranean Homesick Blues.
The Weather Underground took its name from the same source.
DavidLeyonhjelm
15 Jul 12 at 8:57 pm
You don’t need a climate scientist to know that global warming is bullshit…
Rabz
15 Jul 12 at 8:59 pm
How do you know Karoly knows any different? A delicious irony, none the less.
Entropy
15 Jul 12 at 9:00 pm
leyonhjelm – I’d already pointed that out.
FFS.
Rabz
15 Jul 12 at 9:00 pm
Rabz – have you been told today?
FFS
DavidLeyonhjelm
15 Jul 12 at 9:02 pm
Told what?
I recognised the line as soon as I saw it.
But hey, you were only nine minutes after the fact.
Get off my cloud.
Rabz
15 Jul 12 at 9:05 pm
Oh for goodness sake.
Gab
15 Jul 12 at 9:05 pm
I had to presume that he does know the Weathermen reference given who he is and what he does for a living.
and blogstrop nailed it in the first comment
Supplice
15 Jul 12 at 9:05 pm
Oh, he’s a Dylan fan.
Clive remains the most radical on the Climate Authority panel…
ar
15 Jul 12 at 9:08 pm
Interesting stuff about Karoly. Climate audit was instrumental in having him withdraw some research as it was so faulty.
From Climate audit
http://climateaudit.org/2012/07/14/another-untrue-allegation-by-karoly/#more-16434
I urge people the read the exchange to get a sense of Karoly’s grubby tactics.
These people are not scientists, they’re political advocates.
JC
15 Jul 12 at 9:08 pm
I wonder if Karoly can pass the Mark 50 warmie test?
.
15 Jul 12 at 9:18 pm
Okay, if we’re talking Dylan and the Stones, I’m going to throw in a Beatles reference.
“But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is, brother, you’ll have to wait.”
Cannot think of worse haters than the Greens, the ALP, and the frothing warmist crowd.
perturbed
15 Jul 12 at 9:19 pm
I find this the most accurate of all
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao, you ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow.
I think most people have clued up to this and couldn’t give a fig about warming, because they now know the warmies aren’t pure of heart.
They didn’t want mitigation to save x% of future GDP at all. They wanted to expand the tax/GDP ratio and to spit in the face of productive, extractive businesses, and buy a graven image of themselves.
.
15 Jul 12 at 9:40 pm
Some evidence rather than the constant fear mongering would be a refreshing change.
Gab
15 Jul 12 at 9:42 pm
If he were a Dylan fan he would have had a slogan like Blowin’ in the Wind. But the choice of words is significant. If someone wore Alex North’s Two Songs about Lenin would that say something about the wearer compared to North’s Unchained Melody?
Samuel J
15 Jul 12 at 9:47 pm
What the heck is on Karoly’s t-shirt apart from a tribute to Bill Ayres ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidonformosa/6314623896/lightbox/
Is that – a hockeystick ??
Myrddin Seren
15 Jul 12 at 11:32 pm
Supplice
Breitbart gives the Top 10 Felons in Obama’s Life. The Weather Underground domestic terrorist came in at Number 10.
Cold-Hands
16 Jul 12 at 1:30 am
My reference to the Annenberg Project is a reference to the working relationship between Ayers and Obama over education.http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/225348/chicago-annenberg-challenge-shutdown/stanley-kurtz
ValJar is BO and MO’s closest confidant. Some people think she makes many of the decisions. That’s her on the tape about how interested the Admin is in Van Jones, the confessed communist.
I was just looking into how U-Melbourne has been a leader in pushing learner outcomes in Australian higher ed as a replacement for actual demonstrable disciplinary knowledge.
I also know that is where ATC21S is housed as a global push. The replacement of knowledge for generic 21st century skills and desired values.
That search also pulled up a bunch of what your PM was pushing before her current job. Loved reading about how environmental sustainability was to be embedded across the curriculum.
Lots of systems thinking being pushed.
It appears to me Karoly is quite aware of how the Marxist theory of the mind works and what Ayers has really been pushing with his work on ed. But then I have seen the kind of panels Ayers sits on at AERA functions.
Robin
16 Jul 12 at 2:36 am
Actually the proof that the reference is to Weather Underground and not Dylan is the use of those words. Because if it were Dylan it should be the title Subterranean Homesick Blues, or perhaps some other lines in the song or another Dylan song. So it is a clear reference to Weather Underground.
Samuel J
16 Jul 12 at 2:36 am
In 2012, Karoly is wearing a t-shirt referencing widely-known lyrics to a popular Bob Dylan song written in 1965.
In 1969, an American domestic terrorist group took their name from widely-known lyrics to a popular Bob Dylan song written in 1965.
I don’t see how you can claim, for sure and certain, that Karoly is referencing the American domestic terrorist group and not the Bob Dylan song.
sdog
16 Jul 12 at 2:54 am
It is almost certainly a reference to a Communist terrorist organisation. Which should be prohibited under hate speech laws and carry strict penalties.
Fisky
16 Jul 12 at 3:02 am
In various places I’ve also seen the quote “He not busy being born is busy dying” … people don’t necessarily don’t quote the title of a song; they quote the line out of the lyrics they find most apposite.
sdog
16 Jul 12 at 3:05 am
I think it is pretty clear sdog. Out of all of the lyrics that Dylan has written Karoly has chosen the particular 12 words used by Weather Underground. Karoly is old enough (born 1955) to know about Weather Underground and those particular words from its Communist Manifesto. If he just wanted to mention Dylan he could have chosen any number of other lyrics or titles. On the balance of probability I think it is a reference to Weather Underground. Those 12 words are much more clearly associated with Weather Underground than with Dylan.
Samuel J
16 Jul 12 at 3:12 am
Somebody should ask Karoly if he is OK with blowing up buildings and terrorising people.
Fisky
16 Jul 12 at 3:14 am
Just sayin’.
sdog
16 Jul 12 at 3:26 am
No you don’t need a weatherman. You just need to consult the climate model. If there’s a disagreement between the model and the actual wind velocity and direction, you become a designated denier if you point out the discrepancy with reality.
Now I really get the T shirt. It’s a reminder that modelling trumps reality.
Because modelling gets you government and NGO grants.
Robin
16 Jul 12 at 4:25 am
That t-shirt is a death threat.
Boy on a bike
16 Jul 12 at 5:21 am
Karoly is the brains of AGW in Australia.
cohenite
16 Jul 12 at 9:22 am
The guy is on the run – he knows with a government change his days as a big-speaking catastrophist are finished.
I would expect him to get louder and more shrill with each passing week. And I look forward to him and the others beclowning themselves on an ever more frequent basis.
brc
16 Jul 12 at 9:31 am
brc, I expected the Flan to join Karoly in the apocalysmic frothing. I guess he’s chosen to just quietly keep pocketing our taxes until they get turned off.
Keith
16 Jul 12 at 10:36 am