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Wednesday Forum: August 15, 2012

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Written by Sinclair Davidson

August 15th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

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  1. 1st?

    Craig

    15 Aug 12 at 9:27 pm

  2. Hey, is Craig Thompson still alive?

    C.L.

    15 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm

  3. What’s Peter Slipper up to these days? I mean apart from getting his Speakers salary…

    Gab

    15 Aug 12 at 9:34 pm

  4. “Hey, is Craig Thompson still alive?”

    he hasn’t committed silverside far as i know.

    candy

    15 Aug 12 at 9:34 pm

  5. So what’s O’Farrell done in NSW? It’s easy to compile a list of what he hasn’t done.

    - he hasn’t reformed the public service
    - hasn’t fixed cityrail or the utterly dysfunctional railcorp
    - hasn’t wound back greentape
    - hasn’t reformed planning laws
    - hasn’t reformed the education system
    - hasn’t pruned arts boondoggles
    - hasn’t stood up to Gillard on her hardcore centralisation push
    - hasn’t wound back real regulation in a meaningful way

    he has, though, rewarded the tub-thumping pro-police jackboot brigade in a sop to ‘law and order’. Anything else?

    dd

    15 Aug 12 at 9:37 pm

  6. Maybe that’s too hard on him. I haven’t been following NSW politics closely of late, so it’s possible there have been some reforms or good policies that I don’t know about.

    dd

    15 Aug 12 at 9:40 pm

  7. Slipper, according to the Australian today, has resigned as Anglican lawyer from the Traditional Anglican Communion. Apparently this was at the request of the Traditional Anglican Bishop back in April.

    delfino

    15 Aug 12 at 9:43 pm

  8. Wonder why that happened, Delfino. Surely not in response to the current court case?

    Gab

    15 Aug 12 at 9:48 pm

  9. Nice piece on Ryan in the Weekly Standard. It asks the somewhat rhetorical question: what if Ryan goes out on the campaign trail and the American people decide that they really, really like Ryan?

    At that point, the crowd in the Lakewood High School gymnasium cut him off, pounded the bleachers, and offered a full 22 seconds of applause. But they weren’t done yet—an older man in the crowd stood up, pointed at Ryan and screamed “Hey look, no teleprompter!” The crowd roared in approval, not because it was gratuitous swipe at the president, but because they were so grateful that Ryan was providing not just competing policy vision to Obama, but a substantive rhetorical alternative. And they clearly liked what they were hearing. Ryan finally continued:

    When we know what we believe, we know what we need to do, and what we need is leadership. Here is our commitment to you—we’re not going to duck the tough issues, we are going to lead. We’re not going to blame others for our mistakes, we’re going to to take responsibility.

    Ryan might just be a consummate retail politician and a smart policy guy who connects easily with his audience.

    Either way the polls are shifting towards Romney since he nominated Ryan. I tend to agree that the Obama campaign should be very afraid. The Ryan – Biden debate should be the funniest smack down in years.

    John Comnenus

    15 Aug 12 at 9:49 pm

  10. so it’s possible there have been some reforms or good policies that I don’t know about.

    There are some signs that, under Pru Goward, the Department of Community Services is being populated by people with common sense. Just a little sense.. to be encouraged.

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 9:50 pm

  11. You know that sounds lovely, but why is it the ones a girl doesn’t want anywhere near them are the ones that offer?

    You have to avoid kissing a lot of frogs in order to find the one who you can kiss into a handsome prince, Gab.

    Frogs like Fibro, for instance; asbestos lips.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    15 Aug 12 at 9:53 pm

  12. Lazlo,
    Does that mean Pru Goward has left?

    John Comnenus

    15 Aug 12 at 9:55 pm

  13. Calm down girls

    You pathetic greenslime amphibian. Get away from Cat women. We think you smell awful and sound worse.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    15 Aug 12 at 9:57 pm

  14. Lazlo,
    Does that mean Pru Goward has left?

    Que? Not aware she has left. Still doing good, I reckon.

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:01 pm

  15. I was saying to Tim Wilson of the IPA this morning that they (or someone) should come up with a ranking/rating system for Australian politicians like that of Club for Growth and the American Conservative Union. It is very difficult for the few libertarians/classical-liberals/conservatives that do exist in Australia to focus their efforts and to effect any sort of change if they can’t aim in the right direction.

    The Prince

    15 Aug 12 at 10:01 pm

  16. Good Niall ferguson yarn about china on SBS.

    Pickles

    15 Aug 12 at 10:04 pm

  17. I haven’t been following NSW politics closely of late, so it’s possible there have been some reforms or good policies that I don’t know about.

    No there are none. Due to circumstances he ended up allowing hunting in National Parks. I’m a hunter and I don’t even rate it, let alone want to do it.

    John Mc

    15 Aug 12 at 10:05 pm

  18. TP – Be careful what you wish for.

    Bruce

    15 Aug 12 at 10:05 pm

  19. It is very difficult for the few libertarians/classical-liberals/conservatives that do exist in Australia

    Beware of reverse elitism.. There is a lot of common sense out there. Don’t trash it.

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:07 pm

  20. p slipper has taxi vouchers for going around somewhere called Oxford St in Sydney early hours morning which has a reputation.

    i’m okay with a fellow seeing prostitutes but should taxypers fund it?

    candy

    15 Aug 12 at 10:07 pm

  21. someone) should come up with a ranking/rating system for Australian politicians like that of Club for Growth and the American Conservative Union

    I doubt a ranking system would work, because ACU etc rank people based on votes, and in Westminster systems we normally have binding caucus – the entire party votes the same way on things. So there’s not much to distinguish one politician from the other.

    A Club for Growth (love the name) type organisation would be a good idea though; I doubt their mission would overlap too closely with the Taxpayers’ Alliance.

    benson

    15 Aug 12 at 10:08 pm

  22. what if Ryan goes out on the campaign trail and the American people decide that they really, really like Ryan?

    There are some amazing fantasists on this blog. Talk about pulling the pud.

    hammygar

    15 Aug 12 at 10:09 pm

  23. WTF

    National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge Ammo Purchase

    Hollow point bullets designed to cause maximum organ damage

    Why would the National Weather Service need to purchase large quantities of powerful ammo? That’s the question many are asking after the federal agency followed in the footsteps of the Department of Homeland Security in putting out a solicitation for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets.

    http://www.infowars.com/national-weather-service-follows-dhs-in-huge-ammo-purchase/

    JC

    15 Aug 12 at 10:10 pm

  24. There are some amazing fantasists on this blog.

    There are indeed. Have you taken your tablets today hammy?

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:11 pm

  25. Yes Gab. According to the Australian -’it followed a request by the Australian leader of the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC) for him to stand aside while the allegations made by James Ashby were investigated.’

    delfino

    15 Aug 12 at 10:12 pm

  26. WTF

    Is this related to the Kenyan sending arms to the Mexican gangs?

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:13 pm

  27. Oh, thanks Delfino.

    Gab

    15 Aug 12 at 10:14 pm

  28. Ooooh. A Prince has turned up. Someone must have kissed the right frog.
    Talking the talk, too.

    Top of the Pops for pollies? I don’t think so.
    A Club for Growth would have fans here though.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    15 Aug 12 at 10:15 pm

  29. Anna Bligh heads south to Sydney as husband lands job with NSW Coalition government (Oz)

    In the Yartz, no less, AND they just returned from 2 months hols in EU – so does that mean he resigned and forwent all his severance pay?

    Helen Armstrong

    15 Aug 12 at 10:25 pm

  30. Get with the program Lalo, Holder has had contempt charges filed against him for lying under oath or not making available subpoena documents or both. The scandal revolves around the deliberate and illegal sale of firearms to Mexican cartels. The cartels then used the weapons to kill people including a US border agent.

    Hey Hammy,

    CNN reported that Ryan is the most talked about politician on Facebook, knocking Obama off his perch. Check it out here

    John Comnenus

    15 Aug 12 at 10:25 pm

  31. Obama, Mexican gangs, and guns here

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:26 pm

  32. Sorry that should have been Lazlo

    John Comnenus

    15 Aug 12 at 10:27 pm

  33. Getting with it JC!

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:28 pm

  34. Ryan: guaranteed to make leftard heads explode.

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:30 pm

  35. Like your getting with it action Lazlo.

    John Comnenus

    15 Aug 12 at 10:32 pm

  36. Potemkin’s Village

    No embellishment required… here

    Grigory Potemkin

    15 Aug 12 at 10:32 pm

  37. Ryan approval ratings are rocketing up. Mmmmm maybe Hammygar is ancient Erse for no fucking idea!

    John Comnenus

    15 Aug 12 at 10:34 pm

  38. Nicely done, Grigory.

    Gab

    15 Aug 12 at 10:37 pm

  39. Sapphic Bligh? Now there’s a thing. If so, should be at home living in Clover Land then..

    Lazlo

    15 Aug 12 at 10:42 pm

  40. Talk about pulling the pud.
    You sex fiend Hammy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wsdahy6YTE

    blind freddy

    15 Aug 12 at 10:53 pm

  41. DD.. Barry’s been a bit of a dissapointment, but not completely useless.

    They have started on the rail line duplication through the northern line out of Sydney for freight.

    Oh.. and he’s bashing Clover a bit over the cycle lanes, and picking a fight over development control rights in the CBD.

    Apart from that.. pretty useless. No Campbell Newman, that’s for sure.

    duncan

    15 Aug 12 at 10:54 pm

  42. BUYER’S REMORSE:

    Video: Obama That I Used To Know.

    Bloody brilliant.

    sdog

    15 Aug 12 at 10:58 pm

  43. You just gotta laugh.

    Hungary Far-Right Leader Discovers Jewish Roots

    BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — As a rising star in Hungary’s far-right Jobbik Party, Csanad Szegedi was notorious for his incendiary comments on Jews: He accused them of “buying up” the country, railed about the “Jewishness” of the political elite and claimed Jews were desecrating national symbols.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/08/14/world/europe/ap-eu-hungary-rightists-roots.html?_r=1

    JC

    15 Aug 12 at 11:02 pm

  44. No there are none. Due to circumstances he ended up allowing hunting in National Parks. I’m a hunter and I don’t even rate it, let alone want to do it.

    I don’t get the big hard on for protecting national parks in NSW. Half the forests around here are national parks smooshed together with state forests.

    It’s the same forest!

    The only difference is the state forest areas are far better maintained.

    twostix

    15 Aug 12 at 11:10 pm

  45. Due to circumstances he ended up allowing hunting in National Parks. I’m a hunter and I don’t even rate it, let alone want to do it.

    I’ll rate that one.

    dd

    15 Aug 12 at 11:15 pm

  46. Maybe that’s too hard on him. I haven’t been following NSW politics closely of late, so it’s possible there have been some reforms or good policies that I don’t know about.

    My old man the eternal optimist thinks that maybe he’s playing it quiet so as not to spook the NSW voters before the next federal election.

    I think the man is just a spineless coward myself.

    twostix

    15 Aug 12 at 11:15 pm

  47. Hahaha.

    “If Looks Could Kill…”

    As Iowahawk would say, BURN THE MATH WITCH!

    sdog

    15 Aug 12 at 11:25 pm

  48. Zing.

    sdog

    15 Aug 12 at 11:33 pm

  49. Just watched Lateline do a hatchet piece on Ryan followed by Craig McMurtrie interviewed by Tony Jones.

    Unfortunately for them they then got an expert Professor from the Kennedy Business School at Harvard to complete the hatchet job but apparently nobody told him his role.

    He subsequently rejected every assertion in the preceding hatchet piece and McMurtrie as well as the long leftist premised questions of Jones.

    I mean every single one.

    Prof. Roger Porter whoever you are, you will never be invited onto the ABC for commentary ever again.

    It was glorious.

    A Lateline ABC producer will have to be put into the naughty corner for a few years.

    I encourage every one to catch it on-line when it’s available.

    Jones and the ABC were made to look the lying partisan ignorant hacks they are

    This is from JamesK on the old thread.

    I watched it. The guy just slapped snowcone down on every question.

    That’s the thing with softballing questions to a compliant ALP for a job. When you come up against someone who is used to partisan hacks, they slap you down.

    Tony Jones actually ran with the line ‘Ryan is going to cut healthcare and reduce taxes for the rich, how are americans going to take to that’. What a douche. I’ve learnt more about the Ryan budget just by skimming the Ryan thread on this site. You’d think the Lateline people would not just pick up a talking point and repeat it without research, but apparently they are getting their questions from Twitter these days.

    Why on earth would Lateline be so partisan against the Republicans anyway? It’s not like anyone watching is going to sway the US election. They just can’t help themselves.

    brc

    15 Aug 12 at 11:36 pm

  50. Just watched Lateline do a hatchet piece on Ryan followed by Craig McMurtrie interviewed by Tony Jones.

    Unfortunately for them they then got an expert Professor from the Kennedy Business School at Harvard to complete the hatchet job but apparently nobody told him his role.

    He subsequently rejected every assertion in the preceding hatchet piece and McMurtrie as well as the long leftist premised questions of Jones.

    I mean every single one.

    Prof. Roger Porter whoever you are, you will never be invited onto the ABC for commentary ever again.

    It was glorious.

    A Lateline ABC producer will have to be put into the naughty corner for a few years.

    I encourage every one to catch it on-line when it’s available.

    Jones and the ABC were made to look the lying partisan ignorant hacks they are.

    JamesK

    15 Aug 12 at 11:38 pm

  51. Sorry!

    JamesK

    15 Aug 12 at 11:38 pm

  52. selen234

    15 Aug 12 at 11:42 pm

  53. I saw the start of Lateline. Jones had a filthy look on his face when he narratively introduced Paul Ryan to his viewership, quickly telling them that he loves the rich. It’s amazing how much and how suddenly the left now care about The Poor.

    C.L.

    15 Aug 12 at 11:43 pm

  54. DRUDGE: shock poll result – record number of young voters backing Romney.

    C.L.

    15 Aug 12 at 11:46 pm

  55. National Review investigates lifelong taxeater Harry Reid’s mysterious wealth…

    How Did Harry Reid Get Rich?

    C.L.

    15 Aug 12 at 11:51 pm

  56. Impressive! Good on the ABC.

    It’s just been put up on-line:

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/

    JamesK

    15 Aug 12 at 11:56 pm

  57. On December 20, 2005, he invested $50,000 to $100,000 in the Dow Jones U.S. Energy Sector Fund (IYE), which closed that day at $29.15. The companies whose shares it held included ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, and ConocoPhillips. When he made a partial sale of his shares on August 19, 2008, during congressional recess, IYE closed at $41.82. Just a month later, on September 17, Reid was working to bring to the floor a bill that the Joint Committee on Taxation said would cost oil companies — including those in the fund — billions of dollars in taxes and regulatory fees. The bill passed a few days later, and by October 10, IYE’s shares had fallen by 42 percent, to $24.41, for a host of reasons. Savvy investing indeed.

    Insider trading, no?

    Gab

    15 Aug 12 at 11:57 pm

  58. Yes, but get this, congressmen are immune from insider trading.They simply passed a law to protect themselves.

    Unbelievable but true.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 12:03 am

  59. BRC and JamesK, enjoyed your intelligent comments. I also watched the programme, and thought that Professor Porter was great, not accommodating Tony at all.

    delfino

    16 Aug 12 at 12:06 am

  60. What?! What’s so special about them that they get to do it but the man in the street can’t, JC? When was this law passed – during whose term? They’re worse than our lot.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:06 am

  61. brc/ JamesK/ CL – it is incredible how ignorant these fools are about American politics. Just clueless. But what is truly astounding is their laziness, and the narrowness of their sources of information. Now I’m going to watch that segment and revel in their comeuppance.

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 12:08 am

  62. Just watching that supercilious little man with the Prof. Good to see he gets his questions and talking points via the New York Times. I wonder if any of our little trolls are Lateline researchers?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:10 am

  63. Nothing special about them other than being able to pass laws. They are so fucking corrupt. However the GOP house has moved a bill to eliminate those special privileges.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 12:11 am

  64. Peter Schweizer is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University: Throw Them All Out

    Publication Date: November 15, 2011
    One of the biggest scandals in American politics is waiting to explode: the full story of the inside game in Washington shows how the permanent political class enriches itself at the expense of the rest of us. Insider trading is illegal on Wall Street, yet it is routine among members of Congress. Normal individuals cannot get in on IPOs at the asking price, but politicians do so routinely. The Obama administration has been able to funnel hundreds of millions of dollars to its supporters, ensuring yet more campaign donations. An entire class of investors now makes all of its profits based on influence and access in Washington. Peter Schweizer has doggedly researched through mountains of financial records, tracking complicated deals and stock trades back to the timing of briefings, votes on bills, and every other point of leverage for politicians in Washington. The result is a manifesto for revolution: the Permanent Political Class must go.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 12:13 am

  65. Yeah, Gab – congressmen are entitled to insider-trade.

    It does seem incredible but I suppose it could – maybe – be justified on the grounds that given all the information they’re privy to, not allowing them some kind of leeway would bring forth suspicion on all of them for everything. And, of course, litigation and prosecutors would quickly follows in that lawyer-infested country.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:13 am

  66. The new motto for Julias immigration policy…

    “The wise man does at once what the fool does eventually..”

    Doesnt anyone in the ALP have a copy of the Prince?

    thefrollickingmole

    16 Aug 12 at 12:14 am

  67. My god, these questions TJ is asking are absolutely shameful. These are the sort of questions lawyers ask their own witness, but explicitly leading. Oh, for the love of god, he’s now talking about pies; save us!

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 12:18 am

  68. The Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act (“STOCK” Act, Pub.L. 112-105, S. 2038, 126 Stat. 291, enacted April 4, 2012), is an Act of Congress designed to combat insider trading.

    The STOCK Act however doesn’t exclude congressional family members to trade on NONPUBLIC MATERIAL information. Therefore a loophole is provided for congress to continue to mislead America in their true nature of the STOCK Act.

    “Robert Walker, a Washington ethics attorney and former chief counsel for both the House and Senate Ethics Committees, explained that the Senate bill did include a provision that covered spouses and children, but when Cantor’s office wrote the House version, this language was shifted to a different section of the bill. The change meant that spouses and dependent children weren’t subject to the new reporting requirements.”

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 12:21 am

  69. Jones has a very snarky tone. I half expect him to end his sentences with ‘na na na-na naaaah’.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:21 am

  70. Gab, he’s a disgrace.

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 12:23 am

  71. Big Win for Sarah Palin and Peter Schweizer: Congress Passes STOCK Act

    Back in November, CBS’ 60 Minutes ran an exposé featuring Peter Schweiser and information from his new book Throw Them All Out. 60 Minutes exposed massive insider trading schemes that were going on in Congress.

    Though illegal for us mere mortals to engage in [ask Martha Stewart about that] members of Congress were exempted from these laws, and were actually writing legislation based on, not what was best for America, but what would enlarge their bank accounts.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 12:25 am

  72. I thought Porter fought bravely to conceal his contempt for Jones but he left the observant viewer in no doubt.

    Given the leftism at Harvard, he’s obviously used to it.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 12:27 am

  73. I’m still amazed at the insider trading scam. Just incredible.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:28 am

  74. Just incredible.

    Exactly.

    In a modern western world democracy it is simply beyond belief and the deafening silence on this matter is even worse.

    Harry Reid, from modest means, has become a multimillionaire whilst a full-time public representative

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 12:31 am

  75. Thanks for the background links, James. I
    l’ll read them on the morrow….

    er, today

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:32 am

  76. But Reid is not the only one to benefit, surely?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:34 am

  77. LOL. Cut&Paste having a wee dig…

    Stutch is life. The Australian Financial Review’s “scoop” yesterday:

    EXCLUSIVE: International companies have warned the Gillard government that they may scale back investment plans in Australia due to carbon pricing, surging labour costs, the high dollar and political uncertainty.

    The Australian’s splash yesterday:

    GLOBAL companies are turning their backs on Australia out of frustration over federal Labor policies.

    English thesaurus:

    SYNONYMS: scoop, exclusive.

    Definition: a news report that is reported first by one news organisation.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:44 am

  78. O’Farrell has wound back Green tape. he’s loosened up access to parks and he’s rationalising the Native Vegetation Act. Fact is, he doesn’t have a majority in the Upper House.

    wreckage

    16 Aug 12 at 12:52 am

  79. No its truly bi-partisan Gab tho’ Dems are better or worse depending on your pov.

    William A. Jacobson: Hey Paul Ryan haters, your congressional insider trader suspect actually is Sheldon Whitehouse

    Paul Ryan falsely was accused today by left-wing bloggers, most notably Matthew Yglesias (formerly of Think Progress now of Slate), of insider trading based on confidential information provided by the Treasury Secretary to Congress on September 18, 2008.

    That day, Ryan traded Citigroup stock.

    The accusation fell apart when someone noticed that the congressional meeting was in the evening of September 18, after the markets closed and Ryan already had completed his trades. Yglesias issued a retraction, and even New York Magazine defended Ryan on the charge of insider trading (which at the time would have been legal for members of Congress).

    If Yglesias and the rest of the left-blogosphere want to chase someone for insider trading based solely on the timing of trades around the September 18 congressional briefing, then they need look no further than their hero Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), as I detailed on November 19, 2011, Sheldon Whitehouse, luckiest investor in America?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 12:55 am

  80. ‘I don’t think that’s an accurate characterization of Paul Ryan.’ Prof Porter picked the ABC bias in one.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 1:30 am

  81. Abortion proponent writes in The Guardian:

    I wish my mother had aborted me.

    This is no ‘I wish I’d never been born’ howl of angst. I love my mother, and having an abortion would have given her a better life.

    The narrative that anti-choice crusaders are telling is powerful, moving, and best of all it has a happy ending. It makes the woman who carries to term a hero, and for narrative purposes it hides her maternal failing. We cannot argue against heroic, redemptive, happy-ending fairytales using cold statistics. If we want to keep our reproductive rights, we must be willing to tell our stories, to be willing and able to say, “I love my life, but I wish my mother had aborted me.”

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 2:24 am

  82. I wish my mother had aborted me.

    Dissembling twit. Are the rest of us allowed to wish it too?

    perturbed

    16 Aug 12 at 3:13 am

  83. Swing state, Pennsylvania, has just upheld a law requiring ID to vote in the Presidential election. That could put Pennsylvania in play. devastating news for Democrats.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 3:15 am

  84. Someone stupid enough to wish that their mother had aborted them, has probably got a point. I wonder if their Mum agrees.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 3:16 am

  85. Looks like a pro choice gunmen has just shot up the Christian pro life lobby group, the Family Research Council.

    I wonder if all of those talking heads will blame virulent pro choice rhetoric for inciting the shooter? I think we all know the answer to that one.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 3:21 am

  86. I wonder if all of those talking heads will blame virulent pro choice rhetoric for inciting the shooter? I think we all know the answer to that one.

    Of course not – it was a poor, tortured soul who couldn’t take the hate anymore and erupted into like-minded reply. /sarc

    perturbed

    16 Aug 12 at 4:22 am

  87. Shut your mouth, Ms Palin. We don’t want him getting any helpful ideas!

    perturbed

    16 Aug 12 at 4:27 am

  88. But Palin is dumb remember, not like that smart Biden fellow. Sarc

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 4:36 am

  89. A premonition of Finkelstein laws in the NT.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 4:59 am

  90. Why will offshore processing make a skerrick of difference when the refugeen industry and its apologists control the bureaucracy? Only 1.3% of the boatpeople who’ve arrived in the past four years — 287 out of more than 22,000 — have been sent home even though up to 62% of asylum applications were initially rejected.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 5:26 am

  91. The lateline show where Jones went out pre-emptively against Ryan demonstrates the reflexive anti-conservatism of the ABC even where another country is involved. It was the standard attack, nasty conservative cutting expenditure on the poor, lefty moral high ground grab.
    Jones wants to think he’s an intellectual. He even tried to get some kudos by doing a puff piece on Hitchens, but left it until after he died then said what a towering intellect my pal Christopher who I met frequently had.
    But the attack on Ryan was so trashy it belies any depth of thought.

    Blogstrop

    16 Aug 12 at 6:32 am

  92. Peter Schweizer’s other book on the real causes of the GFC called Architects Of Ruin is one that the left leaning media have ignored for years. All they want to do is blame greedy wall streeters, not alinskyite activists who got the anti-redlining movement up to legislative level and virtually forced all those dud mortgages on the banking system.

    Blogstrop

    16 Aug 12 at 6:42 am

  93. Ain’t that the strop. I see Shorten has made noises about what might be considered and Australian version of social considerations outweighing credit risk in banking and credit here. Very dangerous.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 7:04 am

  94. Ain’t that the truth strop. I see Shorten has made noises about what might be considered and Australian version of social considerations outweighing credit risk in banking and credit here. Very dangerous.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 7:04 am

  95. Why will offshore processing make a skerrick of difference

    It won’t. It’s just another place to hold them until they are settled here. Perhaps the new ads the grubbyment is planning to air overseas will deter them. Yeah, no.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:17 am

  96. And now Rombey leading overall and in Virginia, Ohio and Florida. If he wins those three, he wins the election. Ryan effect?

    Boy that Ryan pick was a bad mistake!

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 7:29 am

  97. A morning troll, for sdog:

    The man standing at Norman Johnson’s door that cold January evening was a stranger who might have seemed vaguely familiar.

    Johnson, a retired high school instructor who taught English and coached tennis and football for 35 years in this unassuming town, probably didn’t even have his door locked when he came to greet the bearded, gray-haired visitor. The man bluntly asked him, “Are you Norm Johnson?”

    When the 72-year-old Johnson didn’t answer quickly enough, the man asked again. When Johnson finally said yes, the intruder shot him twice in the face, leaving him to die on the doorstep of his tidy brown-clapboard home.

    What is known is that a man with no criminal record parked his brown Ford Taurus outside Johnson’s house and walked to the door with a Glock handgun, carrying 54 rounds of ammunition in three full magazines.

    Doesn’t seem to happen so much in Australia: shootings of strangers by nutters. I wonder why…

  98. Usain Bolt and Taxes

    ‘After Jamaican sprinter Usain Bolt won his third gold in London last week, reporters asked him why he doesn’t compete in the U.K. more often. “As soon as the law changes I’ll be here all the time,” he said.’

    ‘Punitive tax policy had kept the world’s fastest man from competing in Blighty for the past three years. Explaining Mr. Bolt’s decision to skip a 2010 race in London, his agent told reporters: “He will earn a lot less by competing in Britain if he maintains his current endorsement level.” Mr. Bolt competed in Paris that August instead.’

    vr

    16 Aug 12 at 7:34 am

  99. vr

    16 Aug 12 at 7:36 am

  100. Why don’t you and your perennial inane trolling just fuck off liar-steve™?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 7:38 am

  101. Doesn’t seem to happen so much in Australia: shootings of strangers by nutters. I wonder why…

    Psychopaths run people over in cars, too. Perhaps we should ban cars?

    Abu Chowdah

    16 Aug 12 at 7:39 am

  102. @blogstrop – Jones’ leading questions and characterisations of Ryan really were appalling. I just don’t get what he is trying to achieve, seeing as it is another country. Surely it couldn’t just be pathetic point scoring with his socialist buddies, could it?

    It was bad enough that it’s probably worth a complaint to ABC.

    I guess they want to paint a picture of him in the public mind before the public gets to hear him speak.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 7:44 am

  103. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/man-shot-in-the-leg-in-southwest-sydney/story-fn3dxiwe-1226451374940

    “A MAN has been shot in the leg in what is believed to be a home invasion in southwest Sydney.”

    The 85th shooting in Sydney this year.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:46 am

  104. Doesn’t seem to happen so much in Australia: shootings of strangers by nutters. I wonder why…

    My sweet little baby sister, like all women, is three times more likely to get raped in Australia than she is in America. “I wonder why…”

    Any roads, I can see that merely thinking about America makes you mess your pants, child. Best you stay home and let the Emily’s List Cotillion protect you. There ya go.

    sdog

    16 Aug 12 at 7:51 am

  105. hey, shit fer brains, I see to remember a Family Court judge getting offed that way in NSW at least 10 years ago(may be longer).
    Don’t remember anyone getting caught for it either.

    Eyrie

    16 Aug 12 at 7:51 am

  106. Ive a question on the plain packaging decision. It is now illegal to sell cigarettes in anything other than plain packaging. Does this law prevent cigarette companies from supplying sticker inside the packet that can be put on by the consumer, after sale? The stickers could have logos, brand, colours etc. This would at least allow the tobacco companies to still retain some value from their brand/trademarks etc. If done properly (ie if the stickers were attractive, fashionable etc), it could become a good marketing tactic allowing for brand differentiation, especially amongst the young.

    Not that I want to encourage the young to smoke, but it occurred to me there may be ways around the plain packaging that could effectively scuttle and perceived benefits. Something Labor should be used to by now – unintended consequences.

    dianeh

    16 Aug 12 at 7:54 am

  107. Probably should have said put the stickers on the packet, not on the consumer. But each to their own.

    dianeh

    16 Aug 12 at 7:55 am

  108. Now HERE’s something for America to really be embarrassed about…
    http://twitter.com/s_dog/statuses/235857765715820544
    http://twitter.com/s_dog/statuses/235858035275350016
    SRSLY.

    sdog

    16 Aug 12 at 8:01 am

  109. jonovas site has gone down from another DDOS attack.

    Really ruffled someones feathers I guess.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 8:07 am

  110. 60yo+ schoolgirl Maureen Dowd in the op-ed pages of The New York Times: When Cruelty Is Cute

    I’d been wondering how long it would take Republicans to realize that Paul Ryan is their guy.

    He’s the cutest package that cruelty ever came in. He has a winning air of sad cheerfulness. He’s affable, clean cut and really cut, with the Irish altar-boy widow’s peak and droopy, winsome blue eyes and unashamed sentimentality.

    Who better to rain misery upon the heads of millions of Americans?…………

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 8:09 am

  111. DDOS attack.

    What’s DDOS, brc?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 8:13 am

  112. Doesn’t seem to happen so much in Australia: shootings of strangers by nutters. I wonder why…

    Psychopaths run people over in cars, too. Perhaps we should ban cars?

    Psycopaths king hit random strangers and kill them. Maybe we should ban hands in public?

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 8:15 am

  113. is three times more likely to get raped in Australia than she is in America. I wonder why…”

    I am skeptical of the figure, sdog. International comparison of crime statistics are difficult, particularly when one is talking sexual assault, which can cover everything from being felt up by someone in a lift (or a boyfriend not quitting when the girlfriend tells him to) to being raped by a stranger when walking home from work.

    But if you have figures that are comparing like with like (which, for the purpose of rape being prevented by gun ownership, I think should really just be rape by strangers) I am happy to see them.

  114. New Scathing Video Shows Former Military & Members of the Intel Community Uniting to Stop Leaks

    “A group of former Navy SEALs, members of Delta Force, the Marines, Army Special Forces and the intelligence community have joined together and are standing up, demanding that America’s political leaders immediately stop leaking sensitive military information.”

    Good.

    sdog

    16 Aug 12 at 8:17 am

  115. Seriously, Dowd accusing anyone of ‘arrested adolescence’ is incredible.

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 8:18 am

  116. dianeh, I wonder if people will still start using cigarette cases. When I was a smoker, I never saw the point of them, and I would have felt that using one was too affected. But if I were a smoker now, I reckon I would consider using one. There are some really stylish cigarette cases out there. I wonder if plain packaging will end up making smoking more stylish.

    Dangph

    16 Aug 12 at 8:19 am

  117. That is a BIG victory, thanks for noting it James.

    Big Win for Sarah Palin and Peter Schweizer: Congress Passes STOCK Act

    Back in November, CBS’ 60 Minutes ran an exposé featuring Peter Schweiser and information from his new book Throw Them All Out. 60 Minutes exposed massive insider trading schemes that were going on in Congress.

    Though illegal for us mere mortals to engage in [ask Martha Stewart about that] members of Congress were exempted from these laws, and were actually writing legislation based on, not what was best for America, but what would enlarge their bank accounts.

    .

    Did anyone see this in any Oz papers?

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 8:20 am

  118. 6 years after Obama started campaigning for president the Aus media still has no interest in vetting the man, yet strangely enough the ABC (and the Oz) are straight into Paul Ryan.

    Just watched Lateline do a hatchet piece on Ryan followed by Craig McMurtrie interviewed by Tony Jones.

    Unfortunately for them they then got an expert Professor from the Kennedy Business School at Harvard to complete the hatchet job but apparently nobody told him his role.

    Who would’ve thought the ABC would be vetting Paul Ryan?

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 8:24 am

  119. Bolt’s title to Lomborg’s piece is apt:

    Is Krugman America’s Tim Flannery?

    Lomborg does a good job noting how Krugman has been making an ass of himself pushing politics instead of doing economics:

    Consider Paul Krugman, writing breathlessly in The New York Times about the “rising incidence of extreme events” and how “large-scale damage from climate change is happening now”.

    He claims that global warming caused the current drought in the US midwest and that supposedly record-high corn prices could cause a global food crisis.

    But the UN climate panel’s latest assessment tells us precisely the opposite: for “North America, there is medium confidence that there has been an overall slight tendency toward less dryness (wetting trend with more soil moisture and runoff)”.

    Moreover, there is no way Krugman could have identified this drought as being caused by global warming without a time machine: climate models estimate that such detection will be possible by 2048, at the earliest.

    And, fortunately, this year’s drought appears unlikely to cause a food crisis. According to The Economist, “price increases in corn and soybeans are not thought likely to trigger a food crisis, as they did in 2007-08, as global rice and wheat supplies remain plentiful”.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 8:31 am

  120. That Withers appointment to Arts NSW is an up you by the ALP fraternity to the O’Farrell Government.

    I had a number of reffos from the Office of Climate Change come work for me, and let’s just say they were very happy to no longer work for him.

    Simple seasonal forecasts, for example, we’re held up for no reason that was clear (sometimes until the next was nearly due), unless it was seeking a way for the forecast to be on message, or more importantly, not harmful to the message.

    A purely political person in a public service job.

    Entropy

    16 Aug 12 at 8:40 am

  121. What’s DDOS, brc?

    Distributed Denial of Service

    It’s where someone with a network of zombie computers (usually computers infected with a virus or worm) are able to be remotely controlled so that they flood a particular internet address with traffic. The targeted server cannot deal with all the incoming traffic and usually dies, or, in this case, the hosting company just takes it offline.

    There’s virtually nothing you can do about it, as the victim, depending on how the attack is put together.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 8:41 am

  122. This story is directly linked to the STOCK Act.

    National Review investigates lifelong taxeater Harry Reid’s mysterious wealth…

    How Did Harry Reid Get Rich?

    Reid is going to be cooked by this story (hey maybe this is why Reid has not released his tax returns for years), and so are most of the senior Democrats.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 8:42 am

  123. @Dangph cigarette cases is what one of the cartoonists was going to launch, but Nanny Roxon squashed the idea and they couldn’t get it off the ground. I actually believe they are going to try and make it illegal to have a cigarette case (in terms of one you pop the packet into)

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 8:43 am

  124. DDOS, thanks for that,brc.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 8:44 am

  125. @token – you would think the American warmists would learn from the folly of pinning droughts on global warmening. It works great until the rain starts falling.

    That’s the thing with droughts – eventually, they always end. Always. So unless you can ram through legislation before the drought ends, it’s a losers strategy. Just ask Dr Tim.

    When are these eejits going to read the IPCC reports and see that there is no visible link between ‘extreme weather’ and global warming?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 8:46 am

  126. Don’t you like the way that when Bolt wants to cite someone as being credible (and who he agrees with), he’ll always add “Professor” to their name? Who else ever refers to Lomborg, or indeed Roger Pielke Jnr, as “Professor”when writing about them?

    In the title of the post, however, it’s simply “Krugman” Tim Flannery rarely gets anything other than the likes of “professional alarmist”.

    A bit transparent, Andrew.

  127. brc, I mean the metal cigarette cases like the ones you see in old movies. Very elegant. Much classier than any packaging could be.

    Dangph

    16 Aug 12 at 8:52 am

  128. brc: gee, I hope my computers were unknowingly part of the DDOS attack. Good to know they might be doing something useful without my knowledge!

  129. ” I actually believe they are going to try and make it illegal to have a cigarette case (in terms of one you pop the packet into)”

    A case could be called anything though, like a makeup case, whatever, and be just the right size for a cigarette packet.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 8:53 am

  130. gee, I hope my computers were unknowingly part of the DDOS attack. Good to know they might be doing something useful without my knowledge!

    Ahh, the measure of a “man”.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 8:55 am

  131. Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 8:58 am

  132. I don’t really see what my genitalia has to do with DDOS attacks, Gab. But I’m sure you’ve worked something out. Probably not via googling, though.

  133. Howard’s Tampa:

    John Howard’s stand on the Tampa is generally seen in retrospect as a political masterstroke that stopped the boats and helped him to secure the 2001 federal election. But to leaf through newspaper clippings from those intense days of late August and early September 2001 is to be reminded that his government took a high-stakes gamble and came close to losing.

    Gillard’s Parsifal:

    A decade on from the Tampa affair we are watching the Gillard government founder as it searches for a way to stop the boats. The response to the Tampa was a circuit-breaker for the Coalition, and Labor wants to find something similar, more in an effort to rescue its political future than out of any attempt to develop coherent policy.

    Gillard had her chance. Typically, she missed it.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:00 am

  134. Typically, SFB thinks the measure of a man involves a penis, not character. Way to underscore what a beta male you are and make the argument for me, SFB.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:03 am

  135. Is it too cheeky to suggest the Arab Nuclear Winter (formerly Spring) is providing inspiration for Conroy & Gillard?

    The recent sacking of all of Egypt’s top military officials by its new Muslim Brotherhood president, Mohammed Morsi, was met with considerable approval in the West, including the United States. After all, the argument goes, he was elected, and don’t we all favor civilian control of the military? Why call this a Brotherhood power play rather than the proper result of this year’s elections?

    That optimistic view cannot be maintained when the Brotherhood is simultaneously making a power play to stop any press criticism of its actions and to pack Egypt’s media with Brotherhood sympathizers. These actions have received little attention and less criticism in the West, and recent American visitors to Cairo — Secretary of Defense Panetta comes to mind — haven’t even mentioned it. “American officials generally think that the Morsi government is off to a good start,” David Ignatius recently wrote in the Washington Post. Ignatius is a faithful stenographer for U.S. officials, and his columns on Egypt reflect no official concern about freedom of the press there. Nor does Ignatius, who as a journalist might be expected to think about the issue occasionally, show any concern himself.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 9:03 am

  136. brc: gee, I hope my computers were unknowingly part of the DDOS attack. Good to know they might be doing something useful without my knowledge!

    I know you’re trolling, but that’s just a stupid thing to say. You should aim to defeat your opponents with superior arguments, not de facto censorship by technical attacks.

    It’s the second time in as many weeks that their site has suffered, so it’s a co-ordinated plan by someone.

    Ultimately this sort of attack is counterproductive because it just fires up the supporter base and gets the money + time rolling in for better technical help.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:08 am

  137. Some useful things for the Gillard government:

    * hopefully, boats decrease quickly
    * a win in the High Court re cigarettes
    * looks a certainty that Arctic ice extent is reaching a new minimum in a few weeks, with resultant publicity about AGW, and how ice decrease is faster than modelling expected. (The guy who got ahead of himself and predicted ice free by this year notwithstanding.)
    * US continues to be very hot, with resultant publicity about AGW.
    * Anthony Watts’ loss of face is making AGW denial look more desperate than ever.
    * Quite likely a hot summer in Australia too.

  138. Good triumphs over evil. Jo Nova’s site is back up.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:21 am

  139. Ultimately this sort of attack is counterproductive because it just fires up the supporter base and gets the money + time rolling in for better technical help.

    It is also illegal and traceable. So be careful to cover your tracks sfb and company. But you probably don’t know how to do that.

    Lazlo

    16 Aug 12 at 9:27 am

  140. You should aim to defeat your opponents with superior arguments, not de facto censorship by technical attacks.

    Lefties love to shout people down. They are very good at it.

    Dangph

    16 Aug 12 at 9:29 am

  141. O’Farrell has wound back Green tape. he’s loosened up access to parks and he’s rationalising the Native Vegetation Act. Fact is, he doesn’t have a majority in the Upper House.

    Oh please, the fact that he doesn’t have a majority in the upper house is the reason for greater parks access – the Shooter’s Party forced it on him.

    Fleeced

    16 Aug 12 at 9:31 am

  142. A case could be called anything though, like a makeup case, whatever, and be just the right size for a cigarette packet.

    I would be the funniest thing ever if they tried to ban boxes of certain dimensions.

    Dangph

    16 Aug 12 at 9:32 am

  143. “Folks, where’s it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th Century in making automobiles?”

    Joe Biden.

    Yesterday.

    Just remember, this doofus was chosen as the Dalai Bama’s running mate for the experience and gravitas he would bring to the ticket.

    And also remember……Sarah Palin was too dumb to be V-P.

    James in Melbourne

    16 Aug 12 at 9:35 am

  144. Jonova also getting excited about the Pickering/Wilson story, I see.

    It’s clear: AGW deniers just don’t have a good nose for when they are being spun bullshit.

    Speaking of which, she is now trying to find a job for the American couple who asked for money to fund their legal action in WA, only to have them shoot off back to the US after all.

    The WUWT website is asking for money for funeral expenses for one of his moderators who died unexpectedly.

    And the IPA keeps asking for money for fights about free speech, when the government hasn’t even got a position on Finkelstein.

    If I were a Rand fan, I might be tempted to note that there’s a lot of mooching around people or organisations that are big into climate denial.

  145. looks a certainty that Arctic ice extent is reaching a new minimum in a few weeks, with resultant publicity about AGW, and how ice decrease is faster than modelling expected.

    I’ve got news for you : nobody gives a fig about Arctic ice extent except for a small subsection of people on climate related blogs.

    You’d be flat out filling a medium-sized football ground with Australian voters who even knows who Anthony Watts is, let alone use it as a tool for assessing who to vote for. The population of Australian voters who would change their vote based on the perceived status of face for an American blogger is zero.

    Meanwhile, nobody has got their quarterly carbon-tax affected electricity bills yet.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:35 am

  146. If I were a Rand fan, I might be tempted to note that there’s a lot of mooching around people or organisations that are big into climate denial.

    You might also realise that ‘big oil’ is pretty parsimonious when it comes to ‘spreading the denial meme’ if they can’t even stump up a few grand for a funeral for a foot soldier.

    Who is the one who believes in conspiracy theories again?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:38 am

  147. The Arctic could melt into my backyard for all I care, but it does bother me that Ms Gillard is going around saying the Coalition had no asylum seeker policies.

    She’s a little dishonest at times, that lassie.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 9:43 am

  148. Some useful things for the Gillard government:

    hopefully, boats decrease quickly

    Yes, after Jools has tossed under the bus everything her party ever stood for. Don’t worry, no-one noticed.

    a win in the High Court re cigarettes

    Some people, strange as it seem, might see this as theft of private company property; and evidence of a desperate government whose social engineering death-throes grow ever more stark raving mad. Just sayin’

    looks a certainty that Arctic ice extent is reaching a new minimum in a few weeks, with resultant publicity about AGW, and how ice decrease is faster than modelling expected. (The guy who got ahead of himself and predicted ice free by this year notwithstanding.)

    Yep, the hot kitchen table dinnertime topic in Middle Australia.

    US continues to be very hot, with resultant publicity about AGW.

    Wow, a warm summer…..who’d a thunk?

    Anthony Watts’ loss of face is making AGW denial look more desperate than ever.

    Ooh, maybe I was too quick on that hot dinner-time topic out there in Salisbury and Bendigo and Orange and Dandenong.

    Quite likely a hot summer in Australia too.

    No…….that I just couldn’t believe. In Australia?

    Honestly, Steve, this is shooting fish in a barrel.

    James in Melbourne

    16 Aug 12 at 9:44 am

  149. She’s a little dishonest at times, that lassie.

    Understatement of the decade. Can anyone identify a time when she has been honest?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:46 am

  150. looks a certainty that Arctic ice extent is reaching a new minimum in a few weeks,

    – Professor Steve from Brisbane, PhD EnviroScience, Crystal Ball Gazing and Bedwetting Alarmism.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:48 am

  151. @dangph

    Imagine banning all boxes, bags, containers that could hold a pack of cigarettes. Next Roxon will try banning antique cigarette cases. But really any sealed box that can fit cigarettes can be used, the cigarettes are taken out of the box. My thoughts on stickers were that the cigarette manufacturers could use their own trademarks on the stickers, and it is low cost compared to the advertising they used to do, and is capable of becoming a fashion/cultural statement. I like the idea of a ‘skin’ for the packet, but sounds like that has been banned. I wonder if there is a market for stylish ‘playing card’ or ‘trading card’ boxes that just happen to be the right size to take a packet of cigarettes.

    dianeh

    16 Aug 12 at 9:51 am

  152. I wouldn’t be so angry about this BS except for the draconian provisions of the Excise Act, ala s 28.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 9:56 am

  153. FMD – Snowcone interview is unbelievable even for the ALPBC

    Romney and Ryan Complement Each Other Porter at 4.35:

    Roger Porter “President Obama has spent a good deal of his time in administration working on trying to re-divide the pie up in different ways…”

    Snowcone: “.. you talk about Obama expanding the pie…”

    H B Bear

    16 Aug 12 at 9:59 am

  154. You don’t have to do another thing today, ShitFerBrains. By 9.35am, you’ve proved you’re a brain-dead idiot with the intellect of a six-year-old and a major problem with women and your sexuality. You couldn’t be doing a better job of making the Gillard government look like fools if they were paying you. Oh wait …

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 9:59 am

  155. The hate peddling by the Left does need to be addressed. In addition to inspiring madmen into SWATing political opponents, this has happened:

    A gunman, posing as an intern, entered the The Family Research Council and shot a security guard. The FRC is a conservative pro-life and pro-traditional marriage organization which has been labelled as a hate group by leftists and gay rights organization in recent days. The gunman may have had more sinister motives toward FRC employees.

    A source told FoxNews.com that the suspect “made statements regarding their policies, and then opened fire with a gun striking a security guard.”

    The case raises an interesting approach by the US media:

    The shooting happened in Washington, D.C., which is the center of the political media universe. There is more evidence in this case that the shooter had political motivations than in other recent cases (Gabby Giffords, Aurora, to name a few) in which the mainstream media jumped to conclusions about the shooter’s motives, falsely implicating conservatives and the Tea Party.

    Yet, there have not been breaking news alerts on cable television. Cable news outlets are not covering this incident wall-to-wall, even as more details come to light.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 10:10 am

  156. Israeli minister warns of 30-day war with Iran

    A strike on Iran’s nuclear sites would spark a 30-day war with missile attacks on Israel’s cities and as many as 500 dead, according to the Israeli minister responsible for preparing home defences.

    Matan Vilnai, who is stepping down as home front defence minister to become ambassador to China, said the country was “ready as never before”.
    “The assessments are for a war that will last 30 days on a number of fronts,” he told the Maariv newspaper.
    “It could be that there will be less fatalities, but it could be there will be more, that is the scenario that we are preparing for according to the best experts.”………

    Mr Vilnai declined to say whether he thought Israel should take military action against Iran, but warned any such decision required serious consideration.
    “The only question is if a clash is necessary. War is something that is better to postpone and weigh carefully,” he said.
    Mr Vilnai is to be replaced by Avi Dichter, a former internal security minister and ex-head of the country’s Shin Bet domestic intelligence agency.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 10:11 am

  157. dianeh, I reckon a slimline metal case that holds 10 or 20 cigarettes would be très très élégant.

    Dangph

    16 Aug 12 at 10:17 am

  158. (AP) WASHINGTON – A man suspected of shooting and wounding a security guard in the lobby of a Christian lobbying group had been volunteering at a community center for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/08/15/family-research-council-shooting-suspect-volunteered-at-lgbt-group/

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:19 am

  159. Yesterday, the leader of those groups, the Human Rights Campaign, called the Family Research Council a “hate group.” Today the HRC still insists that the FRC is a “hate group.” The Huffington Post concurs. By their reckoning, a majority of voters in states from California to North Carolina are haters, and the Catholic Church and just about every other Christian church is a “hate group.”

    Funny thing, though: You never hear these groups utter a peep about the Islamic position on gay marriage. Hint: They’re really really against it. Yet they escape the “hate group” label.

    Speaking of hate, for much of July, the HRC et al waged a nasty campaign against Chick-Fil-A because its CEO donates to the Family Research Council and supports traditional marriage. That campaign may have culminated in today’s attempt to attack the FRC’s headquarters. The shooter was a) volunteering at a group opposed to the FRC for the last six months, b) reportedly carrying Chick-Fil-A paraphernalia when he launched his attack and c) said that his attack was political, against what the FRC stands for. The FBI is currently treating the attack as an act of domestic terrorism. The suspect reportedly had enough bullets on him to commit an act of mass murder, had the security guard not stopped him and taken him down.

    Poke around lefty blogs today and you won’t see a lot of sympathy or any self-reflection going on.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:22 am

  160. See. Even lefties with guns can go mad and be dangerous.

    He was stopped by a security guard. I have no problem with security guards being armed.

  161. The shooting happened in Washington, D.C., which is the center of the political media universe … Yet, there have not been breaking news alerts on cable television. Cable news outlets are not covering this incident wall-to-wall, even as more details come to light.

    The selective blindness of the media is staggering. I am amazed to the point of bewilderment that media companies in the UK, Canada, Australia and the US have allowed their staff to systematically trash their only trading currency, credibility, which has imperilled their future. We are witnessing the accelerated financial collapse of the New York Times, the Guardian in the UK and Fairfax in Australia, among others, directly because of their accommodation of political propaganda in place of conscientious news-gathering, which has damaged their credibility and therefore their readership and revenue.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 10:31 am

  162. Like I said the other day, this is beginning to look a lot like East Timor v2.0

    AS Labor’s bill to restore offshore processing is set to pass the Senate today, Papua New Guinea says it won’t take any asylum-seekers until Australia’s financial commitments are finalised.

    After the House of Representatives voted to reinstate offshore processing on Nauru and PNG’s Manus Island yesterday, it’s now up to the Senate, with a vote expected later today. But despite legislative hurdles set to be cleared, Julia Gillard could face another problem with PNG’s high commissioner to Australia Charles Lepani saying the PM has acted prematurely by announcing Manus Island would host a processing centre, warning his nation did not want to be seen as “a little brother of Australia”

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:32 am

  163. If I were a smoker I would go for the pink lacey look case.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 10:34 am

  164. A security guard at the Family Research Council’s headquarters in Washington, D.C. is being hailed as a hero after he stopped a gunman posing as an intern, taking a bullet in the arm before wrestling the suspect to the ground.

    The gunman, identified as 28-year-old Floyd Lee Corkins II, entered the lobby of the organization’s Chinatown headquarters around 10:45 a.m. and expressed disagreement with the conservative group’s policy positions, sources tell Fox News.

    When the guard asked him where he was going, he opened fire, according to police.

    “The security guard here is a hero, as far as I’m concerned,” D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. “He did his job. The person never made it past the front.”

    Got that? Dude gets fricken shot by a fricken crazy Leftard domestic terrorist, and still manages to wrestle the gun off him and hold him back, saving countless other innocent lives.

    Sources told Fox News that after guard took away his gun, the suspect said, “Don’t shoot me, it was not about you, it was what this place stands for.”

    And so the wounded guard saved that dude’s life too. The life of the dude who’d just shot him.

    sdog

    16 Aug 12 at 10:34 am

  165. Bazza tried but he admits defeat.

    He’s hopeless wivout his teleprompting mates

    TOTUS Makes His Triumphant Return…

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 10:35 am

  166. I’m not quite sure of your point, sdog. It sounds a bit like disappointment that the Leftard wasn’t pumped full of lead?

  167. Obama campaign email to their lists on Ryan’s visit to Las Vegas

    Benjamin –
    Today, just 72 hours after joining the GOP ticket, Paul Ryan is making a pilgrimage to the Sands’ Venetian casino in Las Vegas to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino magnate who’s already donated more than $35 million to Republican groups in this election.
    That’s the same Sheldon Adelson who gave $15 million to help Newt Gingrich against Mitt Romney in the primary, and said he may give $100 million — basically, whatever it costs — to defeat Barack Obama.
    We’re starting to get a glimpse of how Romney plans to cash in on his vice presidential pick. Before Ryan’s even been fully introduced to the American people, he’s attending a private fundraiser in Vegas with the top super PAC donor.
    We’re doing this differently, with ordinary people chipping in whatever they can afford — but it’s going to take a lot more of us to match them. Will you donate $3 or more today?
    https://donate.barackobama.com/The-Fourth-Day
    Thanks,
    Julianna
    Julianna Smoot
    Deputy Campaign Manager
    Obama for America

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 10:38 am

  168. Blowing up abortion clinics is abhorrent and deserving of the death penalty but killing anti abortionists?

    That shit just blows my mind.

    Give billy bob life sentence with a massive non parole period.

    If the mall cop was an Australian, I’d recommend him for the George Cross.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 10:39 am

  169. The selective blindness of the media is staggering. I am amazed to the point of bewilderment that media companies in the UK, Canada, Australia and the US have allowed their staff to systematically trash their only trading currency,

    Tom, I highlighted that section of the report as it is so striking.

    You would think that the people who report the news would’ve been shakey & would know how vulnerable they are after that Ultra-Leftwing AGW-nutjob held people hostage at the Discovery Channel for not being extreme and anti-human in its coverage.

    The planet does not need humans’

    Lee appears to have posted environmental and population-control demands online, saying humans are ruining the planet and that Discovery should develop programs to sound the alarm.

    “I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it,” the alleged manifesto reads, adding:

    “Nothing is more important than saving … the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans.”

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 10:39 am

  170. We’re doing this differently, with ordinary people chipping in whatever they can afford — but it’s going to take a lot more of us to match them. Will you donate $3 or more today?

    Oh, you mean like automobile manufacturing in the 20th century and $25 000 seats at White House dinners? Oh I see.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 10:40 am

  171. POLL: ROMNEY-RYAN LEADS IN VA, OH, FL

    A new poll of four critical swing states by Purple Strategies, taken after Mitt Romney selected Paul Ryan as his running mate, shows Romney leading in three critical swing states — Virginia, Ohio, Florida. Romney trails Obama in the fourth — Colorado — that Purple Strategies polled.
    In Virginia and Ohio, Romney has gained ground since last month. In Virginia, a state that may determine the 2012 election, Romney leads Obama by 3 points (48% to 45%). Last month, Romney trailed Obama by two points.
    In Ohio, Romney leads Obama by two points (46% to 44%). Last month, Obama led by 3 points, 48% to 45%.
    In Colorado, Obama leads 49% to 46%, and that is a 2-point improvement from last month.
    In Florida, Romney leads Obama, 48% to 47%. Last month, Obama trailed by 3 points.
    Voters in these states think Romney and Ryan are more likely to “bring real change to Washington” by 6 points and that margin, Purple Strategies notes, is 17 points in Romney and Ryan’s favor among independents.
    Romney and Ryan face a disadvantage on Medicare, though, the poll found. Voters in these four states, taken together, favored Obama-Biden over Romney-Ryan on Medicare by eight points (48%-40%). However, Romney-Ryan did best on the Medicare question in Florida, which defies what the conventional wisdom has been.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 10:43 am

  172. The shooting happened in Washington, D.C., which is the center of the political media universe … Yet, there have not been breaking news alerts on cable television.

    Little or no coverage of FRC shooting on cable news

    CNN ‘breaks news’ of FRC shooting 2 1/2 hours late

    sdog

    16 Aug 12 at 10:44 am

  173. So now we have another case of a merchant ship being hijacked. Those people should not be going to Nauru, but to jail. The same applied to the Tampa.

    blogstrop

    16 Aug 12 at 10:45 am

  174. President Obama’s re-election campaign is straining to raise the huge sums it is counting on to run against Mitt Romney, with sharp dropoffs in donations from nearly every major industry forcing it to rely more than ever on small contributions and a relative handful of major donors.

    From Wall Street to Hollywood, from doctors and lawyers, the traditional big sources of campaign cash are not delivering for the Obama campaign as they did four years ago.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/us/politics/obama-campaign-faces-dropoff-in-big-donations.html

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:45 am

  175. I’m not quite sure of your point, sdog.

    It’s not my fault you’re a clueless fucktard, SfB.

    sdog

    16 Aug 12 at 10:46 am

  176. So now we have another case of a merchant ship being hijacked. Those people should not be going to Nauru, but to jail. The same applied to the Tampa.

    I would like to know more.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 10:47 am

  177. Nothing is more important than saving … the Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels. The humans? The planet does not need humans

    The extreme self-hatred implicit in modern environmentalism, AGW, etc, seems to me to be primarily a post-Christian guilt trip by rich white trash in the West.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 10:51 am

  178. New York Times article on American’s aversion to raising enough tax to pay for what they expect from government.

    Interesting.

  179. Currently Sri Lanka intercepts and returns “asylum seekers”, heading for Australia, to Sri Lanka. The boat “rescued” by the MV Parsifal was 46 nm off Indonesia and delivered the latest boatload to Christmas Island.

    How long before Sri Lanka no longer bothers? And who could blame them if they stopped?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:56 am

  180. Gab, in reply to the new resident troll Febrile,you said,

    Never been to Tasmania. Hobart is the name of a place I fly into on a light plane. Adjacent to a homestead and business. Can’t say more.

    I’m calling bulls*it on this.

    You are correct, bullshit is exactly the right call.
    Once again a leftist scrote has been caught lying. I just checked my copy of ERSA (En Route Supplement Australia)which lists ALL aerodromes and ALA’s (Authorised Landing Areas such as homesteads, waterways, oil rigs etc) and apart from YMHB which is ICAO code for Hobart in Tassie, there is no other place that even has a passing resemblance to Hobart listed.
    I think that it’s time for Sinclair to put in a three strikes and you are out policy for trolls. Get caught demonstrably lying 3 times and fuck off. Simple enough for most leftards to understand and easily enforcable to boot.

    Huckleberry Chunkwot

    16 Aug 12 at 10:58 am

  181. My God but Scott Morrison was absolutely impressive on ABC24! Even backchatted rude reporters telling them “you’ve asked me a question now let me answer”. Hope I can get the transcript as he is hitting the Labor’s stenographers’ objections on the head. Really whacking them with facts and figures.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:59 am

  182. Will you donate $3 or more today?

    Dear Julianna,

    If I had a $3 note, I would gladly donate it.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 10:59 am

  183. First pic: the face of the violent pro-abortion, pro gay ‘marriage’ movement.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 11:01 am

  184. LOL… Obama humiliated.

    WaPo: Iowa deli co-owner caters for Obama visit, wearing pro Romney t-shirt.

    DAVENPORT, Iowa — Ross Murty likes business, but he doesn’t like President Obama.

    And so the co-owner of the Village Corner Deli here agreed to cater Obama’s visit Wednesday — but not before donning a T-shirt blaring the message: “Government didn’t build my business. I did.”

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 11:04 am

  185. I think that it’s time for Sinclair to put in a three strikes and you are out policy for trolls. Get caught demonstrably lying 3 times and fuck off. Simple enough for most leftards to understand and easily enforcable to boot.

    That would mean the trolls could be booted on the first comment!

    It’s up to Sinclair to decide what to do of course. However, the easiest way to get rid of the trolls – and I don’t call people with an opposing honest argument a troll – is to just ignore their comments.

    Like feral cats, if you feed the trolls they’ll keep coming back. Think about it, they place a stupid or abusive comment here, often just out of the blue and not in relation to any topic, and we respond. That’s stroking their ego, that’s making them fell important and encouraging them to comment further. imho.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:05 am

  186. Can anyone identify a time when she has been honest?

    She was honest when she wrote a whitepaper for the ACP splinter group that she was an paid member of and then executive editorial committee member of until she was 40:

    1) Total Opposition : The revolutionary Left continues, as expected, to oppose Labor Governments as hindering the prospects for revolutionary change. This perspective will not be discussed in detail here but clearly offers no strategy of advance for the Left.

    For the Left to make any real advance all the perspectives on the relationship to Labor in government need to be rejected in favour of a concept of strategic support for Labor governments. We need to recognise the only possibility for major social change is under long period of Labor administration.

    The task of pushing back the current political constraints by changing public opinion would need to be tackled by the Left through government, social movements and trade unions.

    Vomit.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 11:07 am

  187. He was stopped by a security guard. I have no problem with security guards being armed.

    How many guards should the ChickfilA company employ?
    I’d be really interested to know.
    And there’ll never be any mistakes made, security guards being infallible and all. So what would be your maximum level of mistakes and resulting fatalities?

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 11:14 am

  188. Robert Mugabe installer, Malcolm Fraser:

    ‘Hey, let’s have an inquiry into the Iraq War.’

    “We know the war was begun on a lie, we know the evidence was fabricated.

    “We know that, certainly in Britain and the United States, they knew that the claims about Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction were in many respects false, and yet they still went to war on that basis.”

    All untrue.

    ABC very excited:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-16/an-calls-for-australian-inquiry-into-iraq-war/4201748

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 11:16 am

  189. Trolls that take an undue interest in other commenter’s identity and where they live (an implicit threat) should be outed instantly.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 11:19 am

  190. Dishonorable Disclosures
    Published on 15 Aug 2012 by OPSECTeam

    

    Intelligence and Special Operations forces are furious and frustrated at how President Obama and those in positions of authority have exploited their service for political advantage. Countless leaks, interviews and decisions by the Obama Administration and other government officials have undermined the success of our Intelligence and Special Operations forces and put future missions and personnel at risk.

    The unwarranted and dangerous public disclosure of Special Forces Operations is so serious — that for the first time ever — former operators have agreed to risk their reputations and go ‘on the record’ in a special documentary titled “Dishonorable Disclosures.” Its goal is to educate America about serious breaches of security and prevent them from ever happening again.

    Nanuestalker

    16 Aug 12 at 11:19 am

  191. Robert Mugabe installer, Malcolm Fraser:

    ‘Hey, let’s have an inquiry into the Iraq War.’

    yeah I saw him speak on that yesterday. Poor old fool, very dottery. I’m more interested for an inquiry into the Gillard/Wilson fraud matter and the Craig Thomson affair and the Mike Williamson rorts, the misappropriation of union members’ funds. Pity Fraser is still living in the past; it’s almost as if he was distracting the public for Julia’s sake.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:22 am

  192. UK police surround Ecuadorian embassy, some talk of them invading to extract Julian Assange. Which would be a major international incident.

    m0nty

    16 Aug 12 at 11:24 am

  193. Why do lowly paid HSU members still pay their union dues – mystifying.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 11:26 am

  194. It’s against their law not to pay union dues.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:27 am

  195. “Why do lowly paid HSU members still pay their union dues – mystifying.”

    Fear of needing a union when they need one, which probably is never, but “just in case”.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 11:30 am

  196. UK police surround Ecuadorian embassy.

    Who knew? Monty’s barracking for the activist who helped trash the reputation of his industry for credibility and impartiality.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 11:33 am

  197. UK police surround Ecuadorian embassy, some talk of them invading to extract Julian Assange. Which would be a major international incident.

    Yawn.
    Ecuador is harbouring a fugitive from justice. Assange hides in the embassy of a dictator. Assange will get safe passage to Sweden only.
    Jolly civil of the poms to warn them.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 11:33 am

  198. Fear of needing a union when they need one, which probably is never, but “just in case”.

    Well if I caught my insurance company burning up the money, I don’t I’d be sending in my premium any more.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 11:36 am

  199. A LGBT volunteer carrying bag of Chick-fil-A ‘goodies’ shot up the conservative Family Research Center today.

    So as usual, a projected and completely fabricated a narrative a from couple of years ago vis a vis (decidedly leftist) Jared Loughner where the left lied about the “uncivil” “toxic” rhetoric of the right being responsible for his actions, has now actually happened, with a leftist, and the left who are the, but of course, the actual culprits.

    The lefts violent, ugly rhetoric, led by Obama’s ex chief of staff and cheered on by the leftist media has by their own howling logic of last year demonstrably and clearly incited someone to murder.

    The left are the perfect crystal ball. Whatever they accuse everyone else of, they are doing or will do:

    Accused the right of creating an incitment to murder.
    Accused the right of being jackbooted thugs
    Accused the right of incivility
    Accused Bush / Howard of wanting to suppress free speech
    Accused Bush / Howard of “non” transparent” governments.
    Accused Bush / Howard of corruption.
    Accused Howard of being callous and murderous towards boat people.
    accused Howard of playing politics with boat people’s lives

    All of these things have been demonstrated as pure projections on their behalf.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 11:38 am

  200. To be fair to the shooter, Obama did tell his people to “take a gun to a knife fight”.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:39 am

  201. Ecuador most likely about to refuse asylum and have probably requested a police presence.

    Nanuestalker

    16 Aug 12 at 11:41 am

  202. Good work, ‘Stix. The left is the extreme. Therefore the left must lie to the middle class to take or retain power.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 11:46 am

  203. ERSA (En Route Supplement Australia)which lists ALL aerodromes and ALA’s

    I don’t think so.

    There are plenty of strips not listed.

    A look at the gazeteer might be more fruitful.
    But more than likely this is just another febbo smokescreen.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 12:06 pm

  204. blogstrop

    16 Aug 12 at 12:06 pm

  205. Followed an unrelated link to the case of Marcus Enfield and his conviction of perjury and peverting the course of justice.

    Gee they really come down hard on this type of thing, don’t they. 3 years in the big house for making up a story about someone else driving your car when it was caught speeding.

    I note he was just another leftie lawyer, so lying came naturally.

    I wonder what the penalties are for declaring you’re not part of a fraud, and then found to be part of that fraud?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 12:21 pm

  206. It’s true that Obama and the Democrats caused the gay lobby shooter to strike out. Their hate rhetoric is taking the violence we saw in California to a new, alarming level.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:27 pm

  207. I’m going to take a boat out to one of the many ships plying up and down the Australian coast. I’m going to scuttle the boat, call for rescue, and when on board, demand to be sailed to New Zealand or I will set myself on fire.

    I wonder how far I’ll get?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 12:29 pm

  208. Keith, all aerodromes and ALA’s are listed in ERSA. The operative word is Authorised.
    In a previous life I worked as an air traffic controller and there were a number of rural properties within the sectors I worked that are listed in ERSA.
    Anyways, I think that we can all agree that Febrile is a lying waste of space who has no place here on the Cat as he/she/it contributes nothing other than distractions to what are in general, intelligent and diverse debates.

    Huckleberry Chunkwot

    16 Aug 12 at 12:31 pm

  209. If you ask me the law of the sea should be changed, so that any rescued people automatically come under authority of the captain. If they refuse to obey his orders, then the captain should be granted the priveledge to put them back to sea in a suitable lifeboat with something with a weeks provisions and a radio.

    Getting aboard a merchant vessel and demanding to be taken to a destination over promises of self harm just seems like terrorism to me. I don’t see how it is any different to hijacking an airliner.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 12:31 pm

  210. Just make sure you tell them you’re under 18, brc. The fact you may not look like you’re under 18 is irrelevant.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:32 pm

  211. Assange should hop on a dinghy in the Thames, scuttle it and call the Australian Navy.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:33 pm

  212. Gee they really come down hard on this type of thing, don’t they. 3 years in the big house for making up a story about someone else driving your car when it was caught speeding.

    They come down hard on perjury… ask Jeffrey Archer.

    Fleeced

    16 Aug 12 at 12:34 pm

  213. Paul Ryan is making a pilgrimage to the Sands’ Venetian casino in Las Vegas to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino magnate who’s already donated more than $35 million to Republican groups in this election.

    This is being called out for what is really is, a filthy dog-whistle it is:

    The implication: Ryan worships money. Or, in this case, a rich Jew. The language is purposefully written to mirror the idea of pilgrimage to Rome to kiss the ring of the pope. Only Rome is now Vegas, and the pope is a wealthy Jew.

    The email itself is false, of course – the idea that Ryan hasn’t been introduced to the American public is bloviation of the highest order. Ryan has been tooling around the country introducing himself repeatedly, while President Obama has been sending out his surrogates to pick up big Hollywood checks. We already know more about Paul Ryan’s background and beliefs than we do about Barack Obama’s after four years of his presidency.

    But that isn’t the point of the email. The point is to demonize Adelson with religious language, and to turn Ryan into some sort of Judas willing to sell Americans down the river for 30 pieces of silver. If this isn’t a borderline anti-Semitic dog whistle, it is at the very least wildly irresponsible and disturbing language.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 12:36 pm

  214. Ohio: Romney 46, Obama 44

    Florida: Romney 48, Obama 47

    Colorado: Obama 49, Romney 46

    Virginia: Romney 48, Obama 45

    If this is a breakout as I have a hunch it could be then Romney will win with these battleground states.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 12:38 pm

  215. A politician visiting and reverencing a rich Jew, huh?

    Well, at least Adelson wasn’t a Nazi collaborator.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:40 pm

  216. Thank God the MSM have gone full retard on Romney/Ryan.

    This will show Romney that playing nice to the pieces of shit is a waste of time.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 12:40 pm

  217. If they refuse to obey his orders, then the captain should be granted the priveledge to put them back to sea in a suitable lifeboat with something with a weeks provisions and a radio.

    The ships captain on the Tampa learned it is impossible for the small crew of a merchant ship to deal rationally with an over 50 agressive asylum seekers.

    If you were the captain you’d do what they say.

    Asylum seekers rescued by a merchant vessel off the coast of Java on Monday are said to have made threats of violence to the ship’s captain when they were told he intended to drop them off in Singapore instead of on Australian soil.

    The captain of the MV Parsifal reportedly became worried about the safety of his crew and capitulated to the asylum seekers’ demands to be taken to Christmas Island.

    The incident was akin to piracy, said opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 12:41 pm

  218. Paul Ryan is making a pilgrimage to the Sands’ Venetian casino in Las Vegas to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino magnate who’s already donated more than $35 million to Republican groups in this election.

    Well that’s good then right? Ryan is going to meet with a good guy who is spending his own money (and lots of it, it seems) to see the Kenyan back in his hut.

    The point is to demonize Adelson with religious language, and to turn Ryan into some sort of Judas willing to sell Americans down the river for 30 pieces of silver. If this isn’t a borderline anti-Semitic dog whistle, it is at the very least wildly irresponsible and disturbing language.

    Hence the hut reference. (Always escalate).

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 12:42 pm

  219. Biden forgets what century it is. Video. Watching that clip – in all honesty and seriousness – Biden seems slightly deranged.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:44 pm

  220. The operative word is Authorised.

    Correct.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 12:47 pm

  221. The New York Times investigates Paul Ryan’s jacket.

    Instead of boasting about his insane workout, perhaps Mr. Ryan should get a skilled tailor, or challenge campaign aides to pay closer attention to tangible details rather than abstractions like whether or not the candidates appeal to nonrich, nonwhite voters.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:52 pm

  222. Bolta notes how the luvvie-left’s Australian Living Treasure Julian Burnside goes out of his way to prove how ignorant he really is:

    Assange’s Australian lawyer, Julian Burnside, on the ABC this morning warned against Britain storming the Ecuadorean embassy to remove him:

    That would involve invading Ecuadorean territory. It would be like going back to the invasion of the Falklands. I have difficulty believeing that the British would be that foolish…

    Burnside neglects to add the Falklands were and are British territory. Britain did not “invade” the Falklands. Argentina did, making his analogy not just overblown but meaningless.

    That list is the kiss of death.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 12:52 pm

  223. Link to Bolta’s article.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 12:53 pm

  224. Toe sucker reckons it’s now past due for the Romney to stop making references to the bad economy, unemployment etc. and take the campaign one strep further. It’s now time to define the Kenyan by what polls are suggesting people think of him.

    He’s in over his head.

    Just keep saying that.
    http://www.dickmorris.com/obama-is-in-over-his-head-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 12:54 pm

  225. The captain of the MV Parsifal reportedly became worried about the safety of his crew and capitulated to the asylum seekers’ demands to be taken to Christmas Island.

    Next time a distress call goes out most commercial ships will be reluctant to stop. We all know what happens when someone cries wolf.

    Splatacrobat

    16 Aug 12 at 12:55 pm

  226. WaPo joins scandal investigation:

    Ryan and Romney A contrast in sartorial styles.

    Ryan (Wis.) appeared rumpled, slightly sloppy for a vice-presidential candidate. As if he’d flown in hours before and mistakenly picked up someone else’s suitcase. His pants sagged at his ankles. His starched, white shirt bunched at his stomach. His dark jacket drooped, better suited for a man of the cloth than a man on a presidential ticket.

    Ryan, a high-ranking House Republican, known as a stickler for numbers and a devotee of hard-core workouts, seemed oddly unconcerned about the clothes he wore during the most important announcement of his political career. How could a fitness buff with 6 to 8 percent body fat wear a suit that looked two sizes too big?

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 12:55 pm

  227. The New York Times investigates Paul Ryan’s jacket.

    Hard-hitting journalism right there, that is.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 12:55 pm

  228. The Obama campaign is in an utter tizzy about the selection of Paul Ryan as Mitt Romney’s running mate. Yesterday, they sent out an email asking “why the hell” Romney would pick Ryan, and speculating that it was because Ryan was a corporate patsy who would serve the interests of back room fat cats. Today, they’re making that argument complete with a supremely offensive attack on Ryan’s visit to Las Vegas – and, in particular, his upcoming visit with Republican donor Sheldon Adelson

    I think it’s just about time to put down the glasses and celebrate a Romney victory. Running a US presidential campaign on an anti-capitalism platform is doomed and insane. Not knowing any better, Obama’s campaign undergraduates have gone full socialist retard. Americans now know what’s better for the economy and their personal futures and it isn’t an extension of their feelgood political fashion event of 2008.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 12:56 pm

  229. Does the NYT like the cut of this man’s suit?

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 12:59 pm

  230. How could a fitness buff with 6 to 8 percent body fat wear a suit that looked two sizes too big?

    Yea, that’s going to lose the Romney ticket 3%.

    that’s what i thought when I saw. I thought Paul, ditch the old suits and get some new ones.

    Watch how he’ll “wardrobe” to the max over the next few weeks as the Romney camp buy him a couple of dozen suits.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 1:07 pm

  231. The captain of the MV Parsifal reportedly became worried about the safety of his crew and capitulated to the asylum seekers’ demands to be taken to Christmas Island.

    I thought most captains were armed. Is this no longer the case?

    Nevertheless, in the same way the laws regarding airliners were changed when terrorists started hijacking them (locked doors, air marshals, etc) it would seem that the laws of the sea need to be changed as well.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 1:07 pm

  232. Lol… You just gotta love the Times. It’s America’s answer to Fairfax.

    I wonder if bald idiot, fabulous Phil Coorey has a brother in america as it sounds like he wrote the column.

    “Some people are trying to put his suit into a bigger sociological picture,” said Daniel James Cole, professor at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York. “Romney wearing the jeans, Reagan wearing the open shirt in 1980. That the campaign is trying to pose [Ryan] as an Everyman. I just think he didn’t put an adequate amount of thought into what he was going to wear.”

    Ryan scares the shit out of the left. They are absolutely fucking terrified of him because they understand what he means.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 1:10 pm

  233. All of this ridicule from a blog that analyses the way Obama crosses his leg when sitting.

  234. I really see the strategy when a new conservative politician emerges these days. Send out a thousand insults/put downs/characterisations – see which ones stick. Anything that gets picked up and used as an introductory characterisation (ie, ‘renegade politician x’ or ‘hardline politician y’) is doubled down upon and used again.

    So we get a raft of ‘ryan hates the poor’ and ‘ryan has a crumpled suit’ and ‘ryan loves rich people’ and I guess they’ll just sit back and see which one sticks, if any. I guess the beauty of Ryan as a nomination is that the very thing they think is his attack line (budgets) is the very thing the Romney camp wants to talk about.

    The thing is, this type of treatment backfires on lefties. Because conservatives get so carefully examined, the ones that make it through this hazing are pretty clean and untaggable. However, by not applying the same standards to left politicians, they let candidates with significant background problems rise up through the ranks.

    Then you get an Obama with question marks over his history, or you get a Gillard with a significant communist background and major question marks over her past. If Gillard was a conservative politician she would have been weeded out after the first senate ticket nomination.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 1:14 pm

  235. All of this ridicule from a blog that analyses the way Obama crosses his leg when sitting.

    You mean the girlyman legging crossing?

    Dickhead, this the comments section in a fucking blog. The Old York Times is supposed to be the world’s paper of record. It’s good in a way that you consider the Cat equal in appeal to the Times. The people here should feel flattered.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 1:14 pm

  236. JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 1:16 pm

  237. Ill-fitting suit versus empty suit.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 1:17 pm

  238. Ryan should do a couple of Townhalls shirtless.

    The female and homo vote would jump on board.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 1:18 pm

  239. JC

    16 Aug 12 at 1:18 pm

  240. The thing is, this type of treatment backfires on lefties. Because conservatives get so carefully examined, the ones that make it through this hazing are pretty clean and untaggable. However, by not applying the same standards to left politicians, they let candidates with significant background problems rise up through the ranks.

    I agree, the natural selection forced upon the candidates means they can’t hide behind personality tricks or spin. There is no way an inept, unprepared candidate like Obama could survive as a conservative.

    The result is conservatives that survive and manage better.

    The lefties that are molly coddled fail for the same reason spoilt kids and protected industries fail after their protection ends.

    I do hope that the efforts of Sarah Palin to build a support movement means we no longer have to watch retired conservatives turn into pathetic broken shadows of themselves after they leave politics (Fraser is the best example of this).

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 1:23 pm

  241. Short of the Embassy giving him citizenship then appointing him as a diplomat of the Ecuadorean government he has no way of leaving the front door without being arrested.

    The Ecuadorean government should take the testimony of Kathy Lette where she said Assange was a lousy house guest and kick him out the door. He could be holed up there for years if they let him stay so it would be best all round he be told the truth .

    Splatacrobat

    16 Aug 12 at 1:25 pm

  242. The only downside of the left versus right selection system is that it is up to the public to do the sorting for the lefties, and that’s a long process…going by recent history in most Australian jurisdictions.

    Steve D

    16 Aug 12 at 1:34 pm

  243. The thing is, this type of treatment backfires on lefties. Because conservatives get so carefully examined, the ones that make it through this hazing are pretty clean and untaggable. However, by not applying the same standards to left politicians, they let candidates with significant background problems rise up through the ranks.

    So you’re saying that as much as the unbalanced and often viciously partisan coverage that conservatives get in the media irritates, it’s that same trial by fire coverage that allows for only the sturdiest conservative PM’s to rise and go on to govern for, oh say 12 years, while typically mentally ill leftist politicians who are carried by the sycophants in the press struggle to even make it through a single term.

    Given that’s the case, is it desirable to wish that the MSM was more “balanced”? Since conservatives have no trouble winning elections despite the media, does any of it matter at all? Aren’t they actually doing conservatives a favour?

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 1:38 pm

  244. http://www.dickmorris.com/obama-is-in-over-his-head-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

    Great meme from Dick Morris. If that’s what the focus groups are showing, then Romney should run with it. The other one is that half of voters consider Obama to be “extreme” versus about a third for Romney.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/june_2012/47_consider_obama_s_political_views_extreme_31_say_same_of_romney

    Put those two together, and Romney could have a field day alternately defining Obama as an ideological extremist, but one who is totally in over his head and incapacitated.

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 1:39 pm

  245. Also, Romney is leading on the economy question and the numbers on Obamacare repeal have barely budged.

    All of this put together is very bad news for social democrats, dog-eaters, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other core Democratic constituents.

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 1:41 pm

  246. JC,
    Those figures are looking good. It’s beginning to look a lot like the Kenyan is toast.

    John Comnenus

    16 Aug 12 at 1:41 pm

  247. Because conservatives get so carefully examined, the ones that make it through this hazing are pretty clean and untaggable.

    Just compare Romney’s CV with Obama’s. That the Left ever put up this ridiculous clown would be embarrassing, that is if they were capable of embarrassment.

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 1:43 pm

  248. One can still get $2.50 on Mitt Romney to whoop the dog eating, cock gobbler. Might be an idea to put some money on him and buy the kids something nice for Christmas with the winnings.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 1:46 pm

  249. Assange sure looks guilty of rape.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 1:48 pm

  250. Treasury annouces review of its forcasting:

    Footnote 3: We are also currently conducting a review of the quality of Treasury’s forecasts of the macroeconomy and revenue, led by an Independent Reference Group comprising: (Chair) Dr David Chessell, Access Capital Advisers; Dr Lynne Williams, former Deputy Secretary of the Victorian Department of Treasury and Finance; Mr Peter Crone, Business Council of Australia; and Dr Malcolm Edey, Reserve Bank of Australia.

    Source: http://www.treasury.gov.au/PublicationsAndMedia/Speeches/2012/fostering-cultural-change

    Econocrat

    16 Aug 12 at 1:52 pm

  251. Video:

    Jesse Jackson’s daughter condemns racist clown, Biden.

    I hadn’t actually seen the footage.

    Fuck me – he is mentally unwell.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 1:58 pm

  252. John C

    I always thought the polls were interesting for the drama, but I always maintained that the time to seriously look at them was mid to late August as Americans begin focusing more in the election and come back from their vacations. Seasonality is really important in the public mind over there in the sense as to how they do things.

    (I must say I’ve had a few hiccups over the past months or so over Romney.)

    If the polls begin to break out for Romney now as I think they will, the Kenyan is “toast”.

    It’s true that only the frontrunner on the ticket wins the election. But in the Romney case, I think that Ryan will/could set the tempo for Romney and the rest of the campaign.

    I’m really looking forward in seeing what happens to the polls if Romney/Ryan have a great time at the GOP convention.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 1:59 pm

  253. Given that’s the case, is it desirable to wish that the MSM was more “balanced”? Since conservatives have no trouble winning elections despite the media, does any of it matter at all? Aren’t they actually doing conservatives a favour?

    Yes, but that would mean they would have to change creeds…as the left believe government must intervene to protect the weak.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm

  254. I must say I’ve had a few hiccups over the past months or so over Romney.

    You’ve been all over the shop like a negro flash mob.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm

  255. Jesse Jackson’s daughter condemns racist clown, Biden.

    I hadn’t actually seen the footage.

    Fuck me – he is mentally unwell.

    Sshhhhh. Stop talking out loud like that.

    Joe Biden is a terrific VP candidate. He’s great.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm

  256. Joe Biden is a terrific VP candidate. He’s great.

    Oops.

    That’s right.

    Look, I’d go so far as to say Joe Biden is the greatest Vice-President in American history.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 2:03 pm

  257. Assange needs a new tailor

    Tal

    16 Aug 12 at 2:03 pm

  258. CL

    I just watched the clip. Did you listen carefully to the moment Biden uttered those offending words he changed the inflection and tone of his diction to make it sounds more like American blackspeak.

    ” ya all gunna be”..

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 2:03 pm

  259. All of this put together is very bad news for social democrats, dog-eaters, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other core Democratic constituents

    The Adelston email proves what has been said in the US for a while (as does Biden’s “Chains” comment), the Sun King is so worried about their base not showing up that they have so many proxies out are spending the late summer blowing the every dog whistle they can find.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 2:04 pm

  260. Yeah, Hannity’s guest notes that Hillary and other Democrats have also been caught altering their cadence and jive talkin’ to da bruvvers.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 2:05 pm

  261. Did you listen carefully to the moment Biden uttered those offending words he changed the inflection and tone of his diction to make it sounds more like American blackspeak.

    “Black Like Us” Democrats:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2012/08/15/black-like-us-the-race-clownery-of-obama-biden/

    Ivan Denisovich

    16 Aug 12 at 2:08 pm

  262. Biden is the gift that keep giving, Michelle Malkin agress with you guys when you say Joe is the best VP evaaaa:

    Looks like Vice President Joe Biden has been taking extracurricular Democratic jive-talking lessons. The results of condescending liberals’ cynical racial-pandering attempts are, as always, seismically cringe-inducing.

    At a campaign event in Danville, Va., the gaffetastic veep dropped his “g”s and picked up a bizarre twang in front of an audience of black voters. Middle-Class Joe swapped his Home Depot apron for an A.M.E. preacher’s robe and sermonized about the big, bad GOP.

    Romney’s “gonna let the big banks once again write their own rules,” Biden shouted. “Unnnn-chain Wall Street,” he exclaimed with pulpit bravado. “They’re gonna put y’all back in chains,” the pasty Delaware wheeler-dealer faux-drawled. Extra-emphasis on the “y’all.”

    Yes, Biden is rattling chains like an extra in Roots. This is the same politician of pallor who cracked jokes about Indians who work in 7-Elevens and who referred to his now-boss as “clean” and “articulate.” Yet Biden’s demagoguery was met with approving hoots and hollers. Or, rather, hollas.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 2:09 pm

  263. ” Biden seems slightly deranged.”

    Pretty sure he has some dementia, he doesn’t seem quite right, not stupid or deranged, perhaps touch of Alzheimer’s.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 2:09 pm

  264. Poor old fool, very dottery

    Nice verbal fusion there Gab. It’s up there with Mrs Rudd’s “forgettery”.

    Such ambiguity has some history: Winston Churchill joked, when introduced to one Baron Bossom, “Who is this man whose name means neither one thing nor the other?”

    Viva

    16 Aug 12 at 2:10 pm

  265. Only 22 days left and then Obama can’t replace Biden.

    Go easy.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 2:13 pm

  266. If he’s tested positive for Alzheimer’s he couldn’t remain VP, surely. he can’t hide an infirmity like that for long.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 2:16 pm

  267. Given that’s the case, is it desirable to wish that the MSM was more “balanced”?

    Well, I don’t particularly care about them giving the lefties a soft run. Whatever, really. When the next lot of ALP numpties are in the political wilderness for most of a decade, then they’ll just be annoying little twerps again, unable to influence policy.

    The main problem with the media bias is the way it sets the tone for conversations. It’s never ‘what’s the best way for Australians to deal with this’. It’s always ‘wah wah wah the government needs to solve this problem by regulating someone or taxing them wah wah wah’.

    A loss of self-reliance and automatic subservience to someone employed by the government is not a healthy thing for any society.

    In short, a media that didn’t immediately ask politicians how they were going to solve problems would help.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 2:17 pm

  268. If he’s tested positive for Alzheimer’s he couldn’t remain VP, surely. he can’t hide an infirmity like that for long.

    It’s not Alzheimer’s. Biden was born a retard and he shall die one.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 2:19 pm

  269. Cndy

    Biden is a clown. He doesn’t have Az. He was always a clown from what I recall of him, only that he didn’t get as high exposure then.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 2:20 pm

  270. Middle-Class Joe swapped his Home Depot apron for an A.M.E. preacher’s robe and sermonized about the big, bad GOP.

    “They’re gonna put y’all back in chains,” the pasty Delaware wheeler-dealer faux-drawled. Extra-emphasis on the “y’all.”

    Yes, Biden is rattling chains like an extra in Roots.

    LOL. A source of endless mirth.

    Ivan Denisovich

    16 Aug 12 at 2:20 pm

  271. He famously plagiarised speeches by Neil Kinnock.

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 2:25 pm

  272. Presumably you can replace a VP at any time for any reason? He’s not officially an elected position, right? You only vote for Pres – they nominate who is their VP. So now, or after the election, any Pres could appoint a new VP whenever they liked (effectively)?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 2:26 pm

  273. Presumably you can replace a VP at any time for any reason?

    Nope. Only 22 days to go and then he’s on the ticket unless he’s killed or declared non compos mentis.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 2:33 pm

  274. They are elected in a combined ticket. They are elected dually with the President, it is not a Cabinet position.

    They would have to be “asked” to leave or impeached.

    The VP originally was an opposition foil to Presidential stupidity (when they were separately elected through State legislature appointed electoral college voters) as they are the permanent President of the Senate.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 2:35 pm

  275. They still need to formally nominate both Obama and Biden.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 2:38 pm

  276. Then you get an Obama with question marks over his history, or you get a Gillard with a significant communist background and major question marks over her past. If Gillard was a conservative politician she would have been weeded out after the first senate ticket nomination.

    The difference is, that because the media was in the tank for Obama, he was elected by the American people. The Australian public have never endorsed Gillard as PM.

    Fleeced

    16 Aug 12 at 2:44 pm

  277. The Australian public have never endorsed Gillard as PM.

    I know this is true. The funny thing is that when I was reading some of the old interviews and articles when she was appointed, some of the media ventured that she was ‘popular’.

    I think they should be teaching more about the horrors of communism at schools. I get the impression most of the young people today think of communists as people who drove funny cars and drank bad vodka, and are somehow retro cool.

    Thus when you mention someone like Rhiannon was linked to the KGB or that Gillard was in a communist group at university, they kind of shrug it off as youthful hijinks, like mooning the palace guard in London or being in a punk rock band.

    The truth is that until the communist groups finally renamed themselves into green-left types, they were still very committed to revolution and completely upturning just about every aspect of life.

    There never was going to be an iPhone in a communist utopia, youngsters!

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 2:49 pm

  278. The Australian public have never endorsed Gillard as PM.

    We got lumbered with her by default.
    Default of moronic “Independents” and voters enraptured with the novelty of a female PM in Aust. It’s a first, people.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 2:58 pm

  279. Gillard and Obama are both there because they are political novelties. The fact that they’re both utterly incompetent is a serious setback to the cause of women and blacks as national leaders.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 3:19 pm

  280. The Kenyan gets a raving endorsement.

    A former four-term Democratic congressman from Alabama and one time strong supporter of President Barack Obama will campaign for Mitt Romney Wednesday.

    A Romney campaign aide confirms to CNN that Artur Davis will stump for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in the battleground state of Virginia.

    …“I think the Obama administration has candidly gone too far to the left. You can raise all kinds of questions on whether that’s good politics or not,” Davis said on CNN’s “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.” “Obviously the election will determine that.”

    The Romney campaign says Davis will team up with Virginia GOP Victory Chairman Pete Snyder and a local business owner at an event in Arlington.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/15/former-obama-campaign-co-chair-to-stump-for-romney/

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 3:22 pm

  281. The truth is that until the communist groups finally renamed themselves into green-left types, they were still very committed to revolution and completely upturning just about every aspect of life.

    Even renamed as green left types they are still committed to revolution and completely upturning just about every aspect of life – for the worse.

    Old Fridgie

    16 Aug 12 at 3:25 pm

  282. I think they should be teaching more about the horrors of communism at schools. I get the impression most of the young people today think of communists as people who drove funny cars and drank bad vodka, and are somehow retro cool.

    All we need to do is honest reports of life under “Fraser-endorsed” Robert Mugabe or the Kims in North Korea. They are real life hell-holes created by Communism where the people are the exhibits to the way the system tortures the inmates.

    Alternately, watch and learn as Venezuela, Ecquador and Bolivia evolve into similar Hobbsean hell-holes.

    Of course the teachers who were denying the killing fields when they were educated would never expose children to truth that they themselve can not handle.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 3:37 pm

  283. They’re trying anything to prop up the idiot.

    New Poll: Unlikely Voters Favor Obama 2 to 1

    This one’s hilarious. In an effort to prop up the failed president, a new poll shows that if 90 million people who are unlikely to vote actually show up to vote, then Obama wins going away. It also revealed if you get all the Power Ball numbers right tonight, chances are significantly higher you’ll have the winning ticket.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 3:38 pm

  284. I think they should be teaching more about the horrors of communism at schools.

    Good luck with getting that into the history curriculum

    Myrrdin Seren

    16 Aug 12 at 3:40 pm

  285. Breaking News:

    Soledad O’Brien: I’m apolitical. Really, I am.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 3:48 pm

  286. @myrrdin : thanks for the depressing read.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 3:56 pm

  287. I’m supposed to be shocked to the core about Biden referring to the 20th century, and the “put y’all back in chains” comment?

    Usually when CL talks of some Democrat being “mentally unwell”, I don’t bother checking the video because it will be a ridiculous wingnut beat up. The tradition continues.

  288. I see Larry Pickerings site also got hit with a DDOS attack.

    shut up SHUT UP SHUT UP! they seem to be saying.

    You’d think just addressing the points in a press release or conference would do the job, no need to go around trying to take out every website that has posted the information. You can’t keep up a ddos attack forever.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 4:12 pm

  289. Usually when CL talks of some Democrat being “mentally unwell”, I don’t bother checking the video because it will be a ridiculous wingnut beat up. The tradition continues.

    How would you know if you haven’t checked the video, doofi?

    Fuck you talk shit at times, stepford.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 4:26 pm

  290. I don’t think that the nonchalance of a Brisbane-based micro blogger to the Biden speech is of much relevance to the US election one way or another.

    Now Jesse Jackson’s daughter – that IS relevant.

    Myrrdin Seren

    16 Aug 12 at 4:29 pm

  291. And I don’t think you or anybody who’s been watching the campaign would say that in any way we have tried to divide the country. We’ve always tried to bring the country together,” President Obama said in an interview with Entertainment Tonight.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahha

    Honestly, the Kenyan and the slapper have to be related.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 4:30 pm

  292. Dennis Miller.

    You know that old woman Ryan was pushing over the cliff? That was Nancy Pelosi going over.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/15/dennis_miller_on_paul_ryan_pick.html

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 4:33 pm

  293. Honestly, the Kenyan and the slapper have to be related.

    She’s harbouring unnatural thoughts, if they are.

    Myrrdin Seren

    16 Aug 12 at 4:34 pm

  294. Michelle Obama: If You Elect Mitt Women Will Die From Cancer

    Warning: photo

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 4:37 pm

  295. oooh.

    oops.

    Sorry MS, I had to do it.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 4:39 pm

  296. There never was going to be an iPhone in a communist utopia, youngsters!

    Those economies failed, failed, failed. They were a rip-off. They were unfree. They were bad, bad, bad. Put that in your iphone and smoke it, dudes.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    16 Aug 12 at 4:39 pm

  297. I watched the videos in this case, JC. Sorry if I did not make that clear enough for you.

    Hence my underwhelm-ment led to my comment.

  298. She’s harbouring unnatural thoughts, if they are.

    Well, he is married and was a communist at university, he fits the profile rather well. I wonder if he needs an, err, association set up?

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 4:42 pm

  299. Millertime or if Dennis Leary is a guest are valid reasons to watch O Reilly.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 4:43 pm

  300. I don’t bother checking the video because it will be a ridiculous wingnut beat up

    I watched the videos in this case, JC. Sorry if I did not make that clear enough for you.

    The tradition continues.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 4:46 pm

  301. Lol Dot.

    Miller used to have a 1/2 program on HBO in the 90′s doing funny interviews and stand up comedy, which he called a rant. He’s really funny at times in a sick cynical sorta way.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 4:48 pm

  302. “She’s harbouring unnatural thoughts, if they are.”

    Not unnatural, just progressive. Ahead of the curve.

    DavidJ

    16 Aug 12 at 4:48 pm

  303. Usually when CL talks of some Democrat being “mentally unwell”, I don’t bother checking the video because it will be a ridiculous wingnut beat up. The tradition continues.

    I watched the videos in this case, JC. Sorry if I did not make that clear enough for you.

    You really are a moron Liar Stepford.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 4:50 pm

  304. So SfB what’s your view on Biden?

    He’s like the crazy uncle you only see at Christmas who has a fondness for livestock from where I sit.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 4:56 pm

  305. Dishonorable Disclosures: It’s Dynamite

    The Obama administration, to its everlasting shame, has eagerly leaked sensitive national security information to advance its own partisan political interests. The killing of Osama bin Laden by special forces who had been on the job for years was the most grotesque, but not the only, example. Special forces operators and intelligence officials were outraged by Obama’s leaks, as were many others, including Democratic Senators.

    So a bunch of special operators and intelligence professionals got together to protest against the Obama administration’s irresponsibility. The result is this video, titled “Dishonorable Disclosure.” It is dynamite: the production values are excellent, and the message is overpowering. The video is 22 minutes long, but trust me: it is riveting, and goes fast. You should watch the whole thing, to appreciate how dishonorable the Obama administration is when it comes to national security.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 4:58 pm

  306. To each their own IT,we mustn’t judge

    Tal

    16 Aug 12 at 5:00 pm

  307. ABC Nwes: McCain says Obama Would Be ‘Wise’ to Replace Joe Biden with Hillary Clinton on the Ticket

    Although he predicted it would not happen, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said today it would be “wise” for President Obama to take Vice President Joe Biden off the Democratic presidential ticket and replace him with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    “I think it might be wise to do that but it’s not going to happen obviously, for a whole variety of reasons,” McCain said in an interview this afternoon on Fox News, stopping just short of Sarah Palin’s call last night for an all-out replacement of Biden on the ticket.

    “I’m not sure if I were Hillary Clinton I would want to be on that team,” the senator added, “I think her ambitions frankly are for 2016 and I’m not sure that would enhance that likelihood.”

    LOL

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 5:01 pm

  308. Test one…two!

    Rudiau

    16 Aug 12 at 5:29 pm

  309. CHannel Ten News reporting cough medicines for children will now require a prescription. Cough syrups which have been for sale for decades, mind, without need for a prescription. Anyway, in the wrap-up, Channel Ten News reporter recommends that parents who have kids with bad cough ought to “try natural remedies like honey”. Morons. Doubt very much the “reporter” has a medical degree and should not be dispensing medical advice.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 5:34 pm

  310. The Obama administration, to its everlasting shame, has eagerly leaked sensitive national security information to advance its own partisan political interests.

    The Obama administration is like the Gillard government, full of the type of scandals which would bring any other administration down.

    On Hannity tonight, Pat Caddell pointed to National Security Advisor Tom Donilon as being the White House source for top security leaks regarding sensitive national defense operations putting “American lives in danger”.

    The dangerous leaks in question were (1) revealing the identity of the informant as to Bin Laden’s location so that Seal Team Six could bring him to justice (who was subsequently jailed for over thirty years by our “ally” Pakistan), (2) admission of a “kill list” that is personally monitored and authorized by the Commander in Chief himself, and (3) uncovering details of the authorization of the Stuxnet virus unleashed against Iran’s nuclear centrifuges by the US and Israel, and possibly others.

    Pat Caddell is a long time Democratic pollster who is now a commentator on Fox News Channel. He has worked directly with George McGovern, Jimmy Carter, Gary Hart, Joe Biden, and Jerry Brown campaigns. His opinions have often been discredited by the Left since he has become a Fox News contributor.

    Caddell indicates that Tom Donilon is a political pollster, as is Caddell, and is thus not qualified to hold the high position of National Security Advisor. “Tom Donilon is a political hack. He was also the guy working with Jim Johnson corrupting Fannie Mae. He is known in Washington as the ‘Leaker in Chief’”.

    National Security Advisors are not usually political pollsters; the position is usually filled by individuals with more integrity and discretion, like Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell, Samuel Berger, Condoleezza Rice, and General James L. Jones.

    As pointed out by Hannity, since Tom Donilon leads the presidential briefing every day as National Security Advisor, it is logical that Obama himself may be giving the authorization to Donilon to make the leaks.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 5:37 pm

  311. I’m supposed to be shocked to the core about Biden referring to the 20th century, and the “put y’all back in chains” comment?

    No-one is shocked anymore, Steve, that’s the point.

    I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Oval Office, at these frequent meetings at which Joe is not present. Wonder when Valerie will pull the pin on him?

    Palin could not have been any worse. In fact she is entitled never again to be mentioned in the same sentence as this imbecile.

    James in Melbourne

    16 Aug 12 at 5:41 pm

  312. Honey is pretty useful. However, the idea I would need a prescription for my kids one day to get some robotussin etc I can get in a supermarket is farking ridiculous.

    Manuka honey seems to have more of the active, anti microbial ingredient.

    Mum told me the doc got her to give me honey when I was to young for OC medicine, back back in the dinosaur days they didn’t really manufacture them for infants.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 5:41 pm

  313. Agree, Manuka honey has some very interesting properties, but that’s not the point.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 5:43 pm

  314. Gab

    http://dare.uva.nl/document/175222

    It’s a good paper but you cannot quote it because the text is locked by some encoding.
    

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 5:43 pm

  315. Anyone viewed Winsors rant in Parliament yet?

    Here it is.

    And notice the leniency give by the Chair that he should speak to.
    What is he, a protected species ??

    Jumpnmcar

    16 Aug 12 at 5:44 pm

  316. Sorry, that sounded harsh, not meant to be.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 5:44 pm

  317. Hence the bolding Gab

    I can make booze with regular cooking and foodstuffs…but heaven forbid I buy some cough syrup!

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 5:44 pm

  318. ALP shutting down free speech and online blogs.

    www dot twawki dot com

    So in every way we now have a government that acts like the North Korean Communist Party and destroys the once great democracy of this country. Now we are seeing the ongoing shutting down of websites critical of the government. This week JoanneNovas site was shut down & Larry Pickering has also had problems (though he claims they were simply increased traffic).

    The host Bluehost said it was a DOS attack from Australia through Telstra. As I tried to pursue the matter with both of them Telstra requested the IP address of the attack which Bluehost claimed it didn’t have and so I hit a brick wall.

    JoNova is up again however Pickeringpost has been down for the past two hours or so.
    The above article was written before the current DOS attack on Pickering post.

    ALP, Unions worried? nah. LOL.

    Rudiau

    16 Aug 12 at 5:50 pm

  319. I’m skipping this film:

    The film reviewer for the Weekly Standard, John Podhoretz normally devotes 800 words or so to every movie he sees. In the case of the most recent release, however, JPod has made an exception. Posted on Facebook mere moments ago:

    John Podhoretz
    If you have any interest in seeing “The Odd Life of Timothy Green,” unfriend me.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 5:50 pm

  320. This is curious…

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 5:51 pm

  321. That to0, Dot but I’m rather miffed at some juvenile reporter advising all and sundry to not really bother with cough syrup and try natural remedies.

    Maybe I’m just hypersensitive to being told what I “ought” to do by some snippy reporter. Bad enough we get told what to do, how to live by the government on a daily basis!

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 5:51 pm

  322. Gab, my impression is that doctors don’t much recommend cough medicines for kids much anymore anyway. As a doctor friend pointed out to me, some are bit contradictory anyway – expectorants that also suppress coughing? I got the feeling that doctors think they don’t really do any good and are an old fashioned treatment that has gone out of favour. Like soap water enemas for constipation. (Not talking from personal experience, there.)

    I could ask JamesK to comment, but he’ll have an attack of Liar! Disease and we won’t be able to tell if he’s talking sense or not.

    It’s a bit of a pity: I used to like the taste of it as a kid. Maybe the alcohol in it?

    Wait: yes, indeed, here’s a link indicating doctors have gone off the whole cough syrup idea.

  323. @Rudiau : Pickering has since posted to Facebook that it was a DDOS attack after all.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 5:53 pm

  324. I made a honey beer with no prescription.Over %7, Very sweet but no hangover.
    Downside is it takes 18 months to start tasting good,24 months is best.

    Jumpnmcar

    16 Aug 12 at 5:54 pm

  325. I got the feeling that doctors think they don’t really do any good and are an old fashioned treatment that has gone out of favour. Like soap water enemas for constipation.

    Idiot. Fuckwit. Bullshit artist.

    You’re a sickening, grovelling slob for the ALP nanny state.

    .

    16 Aug 12 at 5:54 pm

  326. Cough syrups which have been for sale for decades, mind, without need for a prescription.

    Cough syrup doesn’t actually work, but that is besides the point. Australia is now a very mentally ill place ruled by a clique of professional wowsers and a cabal of hate filled mirthless c**ts. Quite frankly this is a despicable country and we should all be ashamed.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 5:54 pm

  327. @jump : isn’t that Mead, then?

    I couldn’t handle a sweet drink like that.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 5:56 pm

  328. When you go to Bali you can walk into a pharmacy and tell them what you want. It’s fantastic.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 5:56 pm

  329. Jump,
    Windbag is having a melt down. He must know that Gillard’s days are numbered and his recent show of support for her won’t make a bit of difference. Labor is about to show Windbag what a hollow man he is. They will replace Gillard and all his bluster will come to nothing. He’ll take it in silence, for the sake of “stable government”. That’s why he’s painting Abbott as desperately ambitious, willing to do anything to seize power. He has to protect Australia from Abbott, you see.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 5:57 pm

  330. Windsor must have checked the polls in his electorate and wasn’t happy. The old lezzo is absolute poison. He just spews venom.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 5:59 pm

  331. Um, it was probably doctors who recommended that a product that doesn’t work, but sometimes causes harm, be made prescription only.

    IT still finds it upsetting. I suppose you regret the day the country lost the right to over the counter tincture of opium for cough relief.

  332. my impression is that doctors don’t much recommend cough medicines for kids much anymore anyway.

    That’s because parents go to the chemist and buy a bottle of cough mixture without needing to see a doctor. Unless the cough presents with other worrying symptoms of course, then it’s a trip to the doc for the usual round of antibiotics.

    Look, cough medications have been manufactured for over fifty decades successfully. If they didn’t work, the life span of the product would have been over in a few years.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 6:00 pm

  333. When you go to Bali you can walk into a pharmacy and tell them what you want. It’s fantastic.

    Yea and they’re fucking up with the disturbing buildup against antibiotics particularly in the 3rd world. That’s not a good thing.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 6:01 pm

  334. Tony Windsor is scum.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 6:01 pm

  335. @jump : isn’t that Mead, then?

    Don’t know brc, could be.
    I just followed the normal home brew approach using honey rather than sugar.

    Jumpnmcar

    16 Aug 12 at 6:02 pm

  336. I suppose you regret the day the country lost the right to over the counter tincture of opium for cough relief.

    I do indeed.

    A sane man should be able to ingest whatever the hell he likes without fear or favour.

    What a sick country where you can abort a baby without nary a care in the world but two chums can’t share a fag and a snifter of syrup.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 6:02 pm

  337. Pickering’s other site works fine. At the moment.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 6:03 pm

  338. Tony Windsor, like Joe Biden, seems to be well into some sort of mental decay. He seems to be having trouble making sentences, partly because he starts shaking whenever he uses the word Abbott. Can you imagine how he’ll be treated by the other inmates in the home when he eventually gets there?

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 6:04 pm

  339. Why put it on prescription if it doesn’t work and is harmful?

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 6:07 pm

  340. Why put it on prescription if it doesn’t work and is harmful?

    Seems to have worked for lots of kids and adults for over fifty years. harmful? How is it harmful?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 6:09 pm

  341. brc

    @Rudiau : Pickering has since posted to Facebook that it was a DDOS attack after all.

    Yeah, guessed as much. Ping packets are perfect, just no access.
    Larry put up his website in case he got kicked off Facebook again. Good move keeping Facebook in parallel.
    How desperate are these morons, they won’t pursue the case legally so they resort to these sort of antics.

    Rudiau

    16 Aug 12 at 6:09 pm

  342. Latest polling for New England

    Suck shit you despicable old lezzo.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 6:10 pm

  343. why would a doctor prescribe a substance that does not work and is harmful anyway? makes no sense.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 6:11 pm

  344. Larry Pickering
    7 minutes ago
    Part V

    IS OUR PRIME MINISTER A CROOK? The latest installment is up!

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 6:14 pm

  345. “seems to have worked for lots of kids and adults for over fifty years. harmful? How is it harmful?”

    just that Steven above said doctors recommended it be prescription only but it does not work.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 6:15 pm

  346. I’m really in two minds about this. A dog owner has a seizure on the street. The dog sees the owner on the ground and nips at people in an attempt to protect its owner. The cops shoot the dog. The dog apparently is on life support in hospital having been shot in the eye by the cop.

    It’s a sad story, but if you really want to gauge why a love NYC so much, just listen to the people standing around yelling at the cops being such arseholes for shooting the poor dog. They are so disrespectful to authority and yet they allow Benito Bloomberg to get away with all sorts of illiberal crap.

    http://gothamist.com/2012/08/14/graphic_video_dog_shot_in_east_vill.php

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm

  347. They start bickering with the cops.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm

  348. Last time I was in Tamworth (over a year ago now).
    People I met wouldn’t even speak about Windsor, such was their anger and contempt. One got the feeling tar and feathers were being stockpiled.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 6:19 pm

  349. IT

    nearly two thirds of those surveyed also rated Coalition leader Tony Abbott as being the preferred Prime Minister over current Labor leader Julia Gillard.

    His own electorate prefers Tony Abbott while he rails against him.

    Rudiau

    16 Aug 12 at 6:19 pm

  350. Yea and they’re fucking up with the disturbing buildup against antibiotics particularly in the 3rd world. That’s not a good thing.

    I’m not sure if it works for antibiotics.

    Usually you just walk in and say “give me some Sudafed (with pseudoephedrine, not the faggy stuff they sell here now), some Cialis, some Panadeine Fortë, a bottle of after sun lotion, a tube of KY and oh do you have any jelly beans as well?”

    It’s magic.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 6:20 pm

  351. Khamenei: Zionist regime will disappear from map

    With the US sending clear public signals to Israel that it is opposed to military action now against Iran, and a cacophonous debate on the matter in Israel, senior Iranian officials continue to threaten Israel with destruction.

    Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Wednesday that he was confidant “the fake Zionist (regime) will disappear from the landscape of geography,” Iran’s Mehr News Agency reported.

    Khamenei made the comments during a meeting with veterans of the Iran-Iraq War.

    “The light of hope will shine on the Palestinian issue, and this Islamic land will certainly be returned to the Palestinian nation,” Khamenei was quoted as saying.

    Earlier on Wednesday Brig.- Gen. Gholamreza Jalali, the head of Iran’s Passive (civil) Defense Organization and a former commander of the Revolutionary Guards, during a speech ahead of Al-Quds Day, an anti-Israel event initiated by Iran, said that in order to liberate Palestine there was no other option but to destroy Israel.

    “[Al-Quds Day] is a reflection of the fact that no other way exists apart from resolve and strength to completely eliminate the aggressive nature and to destroy Israel,” Jalali said, according to a report by Iran’s ISNA news agency.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 6:28 pm

  352. Are you often seeking out treatment for erectile dysfunction, IT?

  353. Israel tells Obama he must make clear to Iran by Sept 25 that US will attack if they don’t cease nuclear program

    Israel has delivered an ultimatum to Obama saying that he must make clear to Iran that America will take military action to stop their nuclear program if they don’t do it themselves, or Israel may be forced to attack Iran. And Israel doesn’t want a half-hearted statement noting that the military option is on the table. They want a clear and unmistakable threat to Iran that it must acknowledge. This is an existential matter for them and they say time is rapidly running out.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 6:33 pm

  354. I don’t understand Windsor’s rant…isn’t the whole point of being Opposition Leader to eventually become Prime Minister?

    Why would you be Oppn Leader if you didn’t want to be PM?

    Quentin George

    16 Aug 12 at 6:34 pm

  355. IIRC, DOt, Manuka honey is used to treat minor burns and wounds. btw, thank you for linking to that article. very interesting, didn’t realise manuka had significant H2O2 content.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 6:37 pm

  356. It is interesting that The Australian’s Matthew Franklin finally got the balls to ask the PM about the Wilson fiasco…

    …the day he retires and takes a lump sum.

    FFS, the media is screwed.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 6:40 pm

  357. The house pervert is now interested in your groin, IT. Errkkk.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 6:42 pm

  358. IT

    I think the problem with antibiotics is prevalent through the third world. Because of the cost issue people at times buy a few antibiotic pills at a time which creates resistance. They are basically sold over the counter.

    I think this sort of stuff should be under prescription, but I also understand the problem with the cost of a docs visit in those places.

    The real underlying problem with antibiotics is of course governments who screw the makers down in price and they of course don’t research for new types.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 6:48 pm

  359. Khamenei: Zionist regime will disappear from map

    Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Wednesday that he was confidant “the fake Zionist (regime) will disappear from the landscape of geography,” Iran’s Mehr News Agency reported.

    That’s not what the Lonely Planet thinks. See how the Lefty travel adviser is taken to pieces at Foreign Policy magazine:

    It’s not just the wacky colonel who got the benefit of the doubt. Has the media convinced you that the burqa is an instrument of oppression? Lonely Planet: Afghanistan, in a rare bit of what appears to be Taliban nostalgia, explains: “The burqa can be seen as a tool to increase mobility and security, a nuance often missed in the outside world’s image of the garment. Assuming that a burqa-clad woman is not empowered and in need of liberation is a naïve construct.”

    Western media outlets have misinformed us on Iran as well. Lonely Planet: Iran assures travelers to the Islamic Republic that “99% of Iranians — and perhaps even [President] Ahmadinejad himself” aren’t interested in a nuclear conflict with Israel. In fact, ignore all the hyperventilating about nuclear weapons, because it’s “hard to argue with” Iran’s claim that its uranium-enrichment program exists only for peaceful purposes.

    The West’s misreading of Cuba is an old staple for this crowd, and a new generation of lefty guidebooks doesn’t fail to disappoint on this score. The Rough Guide to Cuba, for example, even has a kind word for the draconian censorship implemented by the Castro regime, lecturing us that it’s “geared to producing (what the government deems to be) socially valuable content, refreshingly free of any significant concern for high ratings and commercial success.” Sure, the guidebook says, one can read dissident bloggers like Yoani Sánchez, but beware that opponents of the regime can be “paranoid and bitter” and are “at their best when commenting on the minutiae of Cuban life [and] at their worst when giving vent to unfocused diatribes against the government.

    Useful idiots.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 6:50 pm

  360. His own electorate prefers Tony Abbott while he rails against him.

    The old lezzo has poison running through his disgusting veins. All his decisions are based on hate, vengeance and envy. He’s basically human garbage.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 6:50 pm

  361. Are you often seeking out treatment for erectile dysfunction, IT?

    Never had to yet, but if Gillard doesn’t go to jail soon I might.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 6:51 pm

  362. His support is solid in the university town of Armidale. But then that’s not surprising. And says a lot.

    It sure does. I’ll be banning university students from voting until they have been 10 years in the private sector post degree.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 6:53 pm

  363. Official Obama campaign website:

    What women need to know about Paul Ryan

    -Would ban common forms of birth control

    -Would eliminate a woman’s right to choose

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 6:58 pm

  364. From Pickering V column:

    Disclosure of Freedom of Information documents is being thwarted by the Victorian Police. “Too busy”, they say.
    They have sat on the application for two months and say it may be another two months. Regulations demand a period of no longer than 30 days.

    In the meantime “Pickering Post” is being constantly attacked by hackers using DDoS.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:00 pm

  365. I wonder who will write his bio.

    I’ll write it now:

    Born as an old lezzo. Lived as an old lezzo. Died as an old lezzo. Good riddance.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 7:00 pm

  366. Currently Sri Lanka intercepts and returns “asylum seekers”

    They don’t so much “return” them, but rather intercept their boat, arrest and jail them for attempting to leave Sri Lanka without getting permission from the government. After all, having your citizens claim asylum in another country when you say everything is now ok is a bit embarrassing.

    How long before Sri Lanka no longer bothers? And who could blame them if they stopped?

    They’re more valuable to them in prison. Keeps their relatives in line. People are much less likely to complain about the government when they know their relatives could be tortured in retaliation. And they serve as an example to others who might be thinking of defying the government.

    Chris

    16 Aug 12 at 7:01 pm

  367. Are you often seeking out treatment for erectile dysfunction

    Suffered from it all my life. It just won’t say hello again straight after the act. Have to wait at least 5 or 10 minutes, damn it.

    Rudiau

    16 Aug 12 at 7:01 pm

  368. I wonder who will write his bio. He’s worthy subject of writers of the calibre of Funder, Carey, Hardy, or even Marr.

    Or you febbie.

    You’re just as much a tosser as Carey or Marr.

    And let’s face it a Windsor biography wouldn’t need their intelligence.

    It’s an opportunity febbie.

    Carpe diem febbie!

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 7:01 pm

  369. I’m almost in tears, Chris. *sniff*

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:02 pm

  370. I like Tony Windsor. Thoughtful, brave, dislikes Tony Abbott for being a policy flake. He’s made mistakes, but I can’t help but feel he is intelligent and well motivated on the big issues.

    His fundamental point is correct – and needs to be emphasised more: Abbott’s greenhouse gas plan is recognized by no one (that I know of) as being an economically better way of achieving what he says he wants to achieve.

    Furthermore, we are quite likely headed to a clear new all time global warming high within the next 12 months. (I could be wrong, but it will at least go close, barring volcanoes or meteor strike.) The reality of global warming, and the need to take it seriously, is going to be increasingly hard to deny, even for you lot. This means your hope of Abbott going all Boltian on you and rejecting any action at all will not be a credible option. You may as well give up that hope now.

    The real serious argument should then be about his plan not making economic sense compared to Labor’s.

  371. The reality of global warming, and the need to take it seriously, is going to be increasingly hard to deny, even for you lot.

    People in control of their faculties don’t give a fuck if it’s real or a scam. It’s a non-issue.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 7:09 pm

  372. They’re more valuable to them in prison. Keeps their relatives in line.

    Got some links, I’d love to explore this so we can discuss.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 7:10 pm

  373. Furthermore, we are quite likely headed to a clear new all time global warming high within the next 12 months.

    Any evidence to back up that fucking ridiculous, blithering, bedwetting bullshit SfB?

    Crystal ball gazing or cock chaffing?

    Old Fridgie

    16 Aug 12 at 7:15 pm

  374. IT, I predict even you will change. I would guess within 2 – 3 years.

  375. Of course, there will be some dimwits and ideologically blind who will never accept it. Just as some in Africa might still believe sleeping with a virgin will cure AIDS.

  376. And next comes genital warts

    Tal

    16 Aug 12 at 7:18 pm

  377. Poor Windsor. He really lost it today in QT. Thought he was going to pop a poofle valve. He’s Australia’s Joe Biden.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:20 pm

  378. Hasn’t Tony Windsor said he will not stand again for election? So his level of electoral support is moot.

    Read the article fibbo

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 7:22 pm

  379. Oh dear sfb is getting angry again.
    Happens everytime Pickering posts a new article.
    Correlation isn’t causation of course, but there seems to be a definite response to stimuli.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 7:25 pm

  380. Just as some in Africa might still believe sleeping with a virgin will cure AIDS.

    I does. Every AIDS should be required to sleep with one.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 7:25 pm

  381. Tony Windsor seems hateful towards Mr ABbott.
    Perhaps Ms Gillard played on this hate in her dealings with him after the election to get his support.

    She has a special talent of finding weaknesses of people and manipulating them to her advantage.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 7:26 pm

  382. I like Tony Windsor.

    Now that’s a fucking surprise Stepford. Don’t keep astonishing us like that.

    There’s no garbage you don’t like the whiff of, do you?

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 7:28 pm

  383. Centre Unity faction members of the ALP insisted Julia Gillard, of the Socialist Left faction, was an unsuitable candidate because of the known scandal.

    [Many years later, power broker, Mark Abib, was to negotiate Gillard swapping factions to allow her to become Prime Minister... and without reference to Caucus.]

    The focus is now back on Slater & Gordon. Although a listed company they still refuse to come clean on what went on. Why was their client, the AWU, not alerted to the false accounts? Why was the AWU not told of the funds, the laundering, the house, the conveyancing, the mortgage, the profit from the sale of the house?

    They refuse to release the conveyancing details of the Kerr Street property claiming privilege. Yet there is no privilege associated with conveyancing.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:30 pm

  384. His own electorate prefers Tony Abbott while he rails against him.

    The right of his neighbours to recall then fire him for his craven, treacherous, perverted betrayal would have ended this emergent totalitarian communist junta before it started.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 7:31 pm

  385. IT, I predict even you will change. I would guess within 2 – 3 years.

    So SoB gives as an Iron-clad prediction the end of day doomsday predications start the end of 2015.

    Your not going to pull a Flim-Flam Flannery trick and push the dates back now, are you?

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 7:33 pm

  386. From the poll article linked:

    As well as saying the likely Nationals candidate would easily win the seat from Mr Windsor with 60 per cent support, nearly two thirds of those surveyed also rated Coalition leader Tony Abbott as being the preferred Prime Minister over current Labor leader Julia Gillard.

    There’s a message in there for anyone who declared, at the time of the last election, that these weren’t necessarily conservative electorates. What a class A chump.

    From Pickerings latest facebook post:

    He asked his offsider Ralph Blewitt for a $20,000 loan. Blewitt refused. Wilson suggested to Blewitt that one phone call to Big Bill Ludwig and Blewitt would never work again. That wasn’t true of course but Blewitt loaned him the money anyway. The loan was never repaid.

    What a class A a-hole. No wonder Blewitt wants it all out in the open.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 7:37 pm

  387. IT, I predict even you will change. I would guess within 2 – 3 years.

    OK, ShitFer. I’ve just written down the date in my diary: August 16, 2015. All the repentent sinners will be pointing at the sky and begging for mercy from the all-powerful Gaia.

    You fucking clueless idiot. Is your family life so bad that you find it a better option to come here to be humiliated?

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 7:41 pm

  388. Furthermore, we are quite likely headed to a clear new all time global warming high within the next 12 months.

    OK then. Moving average, or just global temp anomaly? You agree to the satellite data as the measuring value? If so, please state what the temp anomaly + value should be. By my reckoning, it’s got to exceed +0.65 on the UAH dataset. It’s currently at +0.28.

    Lock in your prediction then, be precise. Don’t try and Flannery your way out.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 7:41 pm

  389. He won’t do it, brc. He’s a cowardly douchebag.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 7:43 pm

  390. Last time I was in Tamworth (over a year ago now).
    People I met wouldn’t even speak about Windsor, such was their anger and contempt. One got the feeling tar and feathers were being stockpiled.

    Fuck that shit, 60% of them voted for him. They unleashed the fucker on us and the current state of affairs is their’s and Port Macquarie’s fault in entirety.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 7:44 pm

  391. Mr Torbay is yet to win pre-selection for the Nationals, while Mr Windsor’s office said he would not comment on polls but has confirmed he will contest New England again at the 2013 election.

    Bring it on Tony, you deluded old nutcase. I can’t wait until election night. It’s going to be less than a year now.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 7:45 pm

  392. Convicted Partners of Keddies Law firm, owned by Slater & Gordon, have outwitted creditors of millions, according to a report in tomorrow’s Sydney Morning Herald.

    From Pickering.
    Sounds like the ambulance chasers have some explaining to do.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 7:45 pm

  393. He won’t do it, brc. He’s a cowardly douchebag.

    Well here’s his big chance to prove himself right and everyone else just a bunch of ignorant deniers.

    brc

    16 Aug 12 at 7:46 pm

  394. It’s a sad tale…

    Julia wandered aimlessly around her Abbottsford home. She had been unemployed for almost six months since she was sacked from Slater & Gordon. Her money had run out and her boyfriend, Bruce Wilson, had run off. Those lost six months were to mysteriously disappear from her CV.

    If only things could have been different. She now knew she could never practise l
    aw again and anyway her Practising Certificate was soon to expire.

    Julia had put her neck on the line for that bastard Wilson. He had promised her the world and she got peanuts from their clever scam. He was safe back in Perth with his wife, Francine, and the boys. She was left alone and with nothing.

    A man’s a man, but a cup of tea is a comfort.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:48 pm

  395. SfB is a genital wart on this blog.

    blogstrop

    16 Aug 12 at 7:49 pm

  396. Looking forward to Barnaby’s comments when they cross to New England at the next election.

    It will almost be as enjoyable as Kroger’s views on The Goose as he loses Liley.

    It’s been a long time coming but so much to look forward to.

    H B Bear

    16 Aug 12 at 7:50 pm

  397. I like it too that he has a dash of a Falstaff with a slurp of a Don Quixote

    Don’t forget the string scent of manure with a whiff of rancid hatred febbie.

    You’re right up the ‘ol lezzo’s rear end alley

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 7:51 pm

  398. Windsor has balls and that’s great in an old man. No fading quietly into the night for he.

    It takes balls to sell part of your farm for millions, then to put in legislation to make it hard for other people to do so.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 7:51 pm

  399. It takes balls to sell part of your farm for millions to a Coal Company, then to put in legislation to make it hard for other people to do so.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 7:52 pm

  400. It takes balls to sell part of your farm for millions to a Coal Company, then to put in legislation to make it hard for other people to do so.

    That’s one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen in a while by a politician. As I said, just human waste.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 7:55 pm

  401. Windsor has balls

    Is that what the left are calling dementia these days?

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 7:55 pm

  402. That’s one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen in a while by a politician. As I said, just human waste.

    True and it’s up there with insider trading for pollies in the US

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 7:56 pm

  403. The focus is now back on Slater & Gordon. Although a listed company they still refuse to come clean on what went on.

    http://www.rightpulse.com/archives/37049

    Ivan Denisovich

    16 Aug 12 at 7:57 pm

  404. SfB is a genital wart on this blog.

    Yup.

    And febbie insists on being the licker of that wart.

    Mk50 of Brisbane

    16 Aug 12 at 7:58 pm

  405. It takes balls to defend this:

    The independent MP was paid three times more for land sale to mining company than others nearby

    THE sale of Tony Windsor’s farm to a coalminer delivered the kingmaking MP a windfall about three times greater than nearby farmers who sold to the company.

    Mr Windsor’s family was paid $4.625 million by Werris Creek Coal in February for the sale of 376ha Cintra, south of Tamworth, reaping about $12,300 a hectare.

    According to lands titles searches, the three other farms of substantial sizes to be sold to the mining company changed hands in the past 18 months for between $2767 a hectare and $5128 a hectare. A 351ha nearby property was sold to the coal group for $1.8m in 2008 — representing $5128 a hectare — and another 317ha parcel changed hands for $2767 a hectare in April this year.

    Mr Windsor, who has long been critical of mining in the nearby fertile Liverpool Plains because of its impact on underlying ground water, yesterday repeated his claim that the mining of that property was legitimate because it was “completely different country”.

    So what does he do with the money?

    Tony Windsor has spent almost $5.9 million in recent months buying three northern NSW farms in a region targeted for coal-seam gas exploration.

    The independent MP’s family company, Cintra Investments, bought the properties in Coonamble, about 100km west of Gunnedah, between January and March.

    Mr Windsor, who sold his main property to a coalmining group in February last year, said he had bought the Coonamble properties for his family to farm.

    …Petroleum giant Santos and natural and coal-seam gas group Eastern Star Gas hold an exploration licence covering thousands of hectares around Coonamble.

    So do you think he knows anything about applying leverage on those who may buy your personnal property? You betcha!

    IN the week that independent MP Tony Windsor became an outspoken opponent of coal-seam gas extraction, he faced another environmentally damaging threat in his own backyard.

    The NSW government last week approved the expansion of an open-cut coalmine that will intrude on the Windsor family farmland.

    Whitehaven Coal was given approval to expand its Werris Creek Mine, increasing the life of the mine by up to 20 years and ramping up the rate of mining by 25 per cent, or 500,000 tonnes a year.

    Considering this info & Gillard’s history with Wilson, is it any wonder they “get” each other?

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 7:59 pm

  406. Febro,

    Seriously, just fuck off out here. No one’s interested in the stupid crap you have to say.

    You’re the stupidest troll we’ve had in a while now.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 8:00 pm

  407. “I like it too that he has a dash of a Falstaff with a slurp of a Don Quixote”

    Pictures of Mr Windsor show him as having very thin lips,
    usually indicates a person mean with money and love.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 8:02 pm

  408. The NBN should would kick King Windsor back into Parliament if he so chose. It means a big kick up the ass for lots of folks there across the spectrum. They can’t wait and thank Windsor for its promise.

    You’re the weakest troll here.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 8:05 pm

  409. Pictures of Mr Windsor show him as having very thin lips,
    usually indicates a person mean with money and love.

    I’ve got a great great set of lips, Candy.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 8:06 pm

  410. Hey Token

    Abbott ought to get one of his surrogates to speak about that in Parliament about the old lezzo. Watch his mouth drop.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 8:07 pm

  411. Gillard’s got thin lips, so your hypothesis holds true, candy.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 8:09 pm

  412. “I’ve got a great great set of lips, Candy.

    that’s nice JC. mine are what you call well formed and regular.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 8:10 pm

  413. Who left the olive oil out?

    Tal

    16 Aug 12 at 8:11 pm

  414. “Gillard’s got thin lips, so your hypothesis holds true, candy.”

    Her lips have a certain compressed look, like she’s not happy if she does not get her way.

    candy

    16 Aug 12 at 8:14 pm

  415. Token, thanks,illuminating.
    A bit like Ross Garnauts passionate dislike of pollution and his PNG gold mine interests. Worth a look.

    Jumpnmcar

    16 Aug 12 at 8:15 pm

  416. Real estate is sky rocketing in New England, yes because of the promise of the NBN.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 8:16 pm

  417. It would be funny if it happened.

    General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy — Again

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 8:18 pm

  418. They just need mo’ money from Obama, JC. Obviously the first round just wasn’t enough.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 8:19 pm

  419. I’m thinking of investing a heap in New England real estate since land and business stocks there are soaring.

    There are still a few sub $100k fibro shacks in new England febbie.

    Are you sure you’re up for it?

    Besides olive oil is expensive in those parts.

    You might need to avail yourself of tallow/lanolin for those all over body rubs.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 8:32 pm

  420. I’m thinking of investing a heap in New England real estate since land and business stocks there are soaring.

    Struth, the disability pension must be a good wicket.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 8:47 pm

  421. Real estate is sky rocketing in New England, yes because of the promise of the NBN.

    How many times have people said don’t blog drunk.

    FFS – lift your game.

    Carpe Jugulum

    16 Aug 12 at 8:49 pm

  422. I like it too that he has a dash of a Falstaff AlCapone with a slurp of a Don Quixote Baby Face Nelson and a hint of Norm Gallagher for salting.

    There we go – fixed it for you

    Carpe Jugulum

    16 Aug 12 at 8:56 pm

  423. Of course, there will be some dimwits and ideologically blind who will never accept it. Just as some in Africa might still believe sleeping with a virgin will cure AIDS.

    Steve has repeatedly backed Tim Flannery’s claim that Gaia will soon come to life and exercise a living sovereignty over humanity and the earth.

    ——————————

    I loved watching the Old Lezzo Windsor ranting and raving. It shows his mind and will have been destroyed by the Opposition Leader. Scroll down for the ABC’s assessment of Abbott’s hurt.

    I especially liked the accusation of being “disgraceful” made by a man officially found by the Australian Federal Police to be a lying, cowardly turd.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 8:57 pm

  424. So Febro, all you’ve suggested there is an artificial property bubble in Armadale due to the old lezzo and I’d suspect from your actions you are trying to cash out.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 8:58 pm

  425. Tim Blair (with help from Habib) reports:

    The Australian Youth Climate Coalition mobilises Port Augusta’s youngsters

    Ahahahahahahahahaha.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 9:00 pm

  426. Hey Token

    Abbott ought to get one of his surrogates to speak about that in Parliament about the old lezzo. Watch his mouth drop.

    I’m sure the Libs will be careful not to point the finger, but you are right there are some surrogates who could have some fun questioning if the Lezzo recused himself on all discussions on coal and CGT in the areas his trusts own farms.

    I think it is time to get back to twitter and start using those circles to get a bit of chatter about a royal commission or similar…

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 9:02 pm

  427. Febro remind me of that guy who was trying to peddle solar panels at the same time companies in his area were coming under investigation by the ACCC.

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 9:07 pm

  428. CGT Coal Seam Gas (CSG)

    Token

    16 Aug 12 at 9:07 pm

  429. Token, others, ignore the sack of shit and he or she will go away.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 9:08 pm

  430. Febro reminds me of that guy who smears himself in cat poo and jerks off to the Yellow pages.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 9:09 pm

  431. Queensland’s public sector union Together and Queensland Council of Unions launched joint legal action in the Supreme Court on Thursday after months of public condemnation of the government’s latest pay offer for public servants.

    They are challenging government directives which wipe out the employment security and contracting clauses in current Enterprise Bargaining Agreements (EBA) for the state’s 200,000 public servants, except police and health workers.

    Employment security? Wtf? No one in the real world has employment security – what makes these muffin heads so bloody special? So basically they’re expecting the Qld taxpayers to prop them up? Take whatever action, fools, but there ain’t no more money in the kitty.

    Shades of Wisconsin.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:09 pm

  432. IT, you know that guy too? Small world.

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 9:10 pm

  433. Perhaps the unions would like Newman to fund their asses instead of the NDIS? I’m certain they’d be cool with that.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:11 pm

  434. Salon thoughtfully decides to maintain their standards and tone of the imperious and condescending leftist debate:

    Paul Ryan’s religion problem
    Staunchly Catholic Paul Ryan thinks his proposed budget is in line with his faith; some religious leaders disagree

    From Catholic and Protestant bishops to the 40-religion advocacy group People Improving Communities through Organizing (PICO), representatives of various faiths have shown disdain for Ryan’s 2013 House Republican budget, which passed on March 29. Faith in Public Life, a strategy center for religious groups, has been documenting opposition to Ryan’s budget for months. The group provided Salon with a collection of anti-budget statements and letters on behalf of religious leaders.

    Ryan, a staunch conservative and Roman Catholic, has drawn ire from followers of his own faith. While Catholicism emphasizes caring for the poor, Ryan’s proposed budget would cut many of the programs that do so. As The New York Times reported, Ryan’s plan would trim “$3.3 trillion from low-income programs over 10 years,” dropping Medicaid coverage for 14 to 28 million people and eliminating 17 percent of SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which covers food stamps.

    But Ryan seems to think his plan has a Catholic sensibility.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 9:12 pm

  435. Joe thinks he is on a stained couch in a basement somewhere

    Tal

    16 Aug 12 at 9:12 pm

  436. I just read that the DNC has settled on a musical score for Joe Biden’s convention appearance…

    Is this a copyright issue – from Gillard Labor’s perspective?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 9:15 pm

  437. Employment security

    I have employment security – if i don’t fuck up – my employment is secure.

    The Queensland monosyllabic unions need to enter the real world.

    Carpe Jugulum

    16 Aug 12 at 9:16 pm

  438. No wonder Windsor is so popular and folks are flocking to New England.


    Torbay thumps Windsor in latest poll

    The ReachTEL survey was conducted on June 19 and questioned 532 residents in the NSW electorate of New England.

    As well as saying the likely Nationals candidate would easily win the seat from Mr Windsor with 60 per cent support, nearly two thirds of those surveyed also rated Coalition leader Tony Abbott as being the preferred Prime Minister over current Labor leader Julia Gillard.

    The poll’s questions asked which candidate would receive first preference in the voting based on a federal election being held now, or if there was any leaning towards candidates if undecided.

    Mr Windsor has held the electorate since 2001 but the poll only offered 24.6pc support for the incumbent, while Mr Torbay won 60.2pc approval.

    A potential Labor candidate received 4.6pc support in the poll, The Greens 4.2pc, and Bob Katter’s Australian Party – which recently announced it would seek candidates to run at the federal election scheduled for late 2013 – received 2pc. ….

    Mr Torbay is yet to win pre-selection for the Nationals, while Mr Windsor’s office said he would not comment on polls but has confirmed he will contest New England again at the 2013 election.

    febbie tou are a pathetically inept troll who writes laughable drivel.

    At least be entertaining fuckwit

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 9:24 pm

  439. The Australian Youth Climate Coalition mobilises Port Augusta’s youngsters

    Ahahahahahahahahaha.

    Cost to bus 100 junior Gaia worshippers from Port Augusta three and a half hours to Adelaide so they can beg for funding for a solar plant: $2600.
    Cost so they can walk to Adelaide over 10 days so they can beg for funding for a solar plant: $20,000. The difference is the estimated cost of first aid, support vehicles, insurance, accomodation, etc, etc.

    They should have just ticked the box for gas and stayed at school improving their chances of getting a job at the power station.

    Splatacrobat

    16 Aug 12 at 9:25 pm

  440. That would be a statistically insignificant poll, jimmy boy

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

    You’re fucking totally clueless, Fungus.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 9:29 pm

  441. Are we really going to clutter up this thread by engaging with the clueless febro? Really?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 9:29 pm

  442. Sorry, I mixed up the correct word order. That should have read: totally fucking clueless.

    The proof is in the pudding.

    Totally fucking clueless.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm

  443. Are we really going to clutter up this thread by engaging with the clueless febro? Really?

    Seriously, could people stop doing this?

    They come here to be talked about and then folks obediently give them 200 comments. This is more annoying than they are.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 9:34 pm

  444. Windsor has balls

    Yes, they are wacking him on the chin.

    Rob

    16 Aug 12 at 9:37 pm

  445. Sorry, Febrile – there are more important things determining the choice of one’s dwelling place.

    Gab – I know people who are whining about the cuts in the Qld Public Service. What they’re glossing over is the fact that Labor drained the kitty, raped it, sodomized it, flung the remnants against the wall, and then was annihilated, leaving Campbell Newman to do what he can with what’s left.

    The money’s gone, dickwads – your working class heroes stole it and wasted it all. That’s why you’re all being starved of resources and selectively sacked.

    perturbed

    16 Aug 12 at 9:37 pm

  446. Windsor has balls

    Yes, they are whacking him on the chin.

    Rob

    16 Aug 12 at 9:38 pm

  447. From Pickering.
    Sounds like the ambulance chasers have some explaining to do.

    There was a Law Report episode on this recently. Appears to be lots of over charging of clients with compensation cases. Many of the clients were immigrants with poor english and poor understanding of their legal rights. The clients have now sued their previous lawyers and won, but the owners sold the firm to Slater and Gordon and the money from the sale wasn’t sufficient to cover their debts and have declared bankruptcy. And from the news reports at least one of them appears to be skilled at putting money where creditors can’t get to it.

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/he-owes-millions-his-wifes-worth-millions-keddies-partner-outwits-creditors-legally-20120816-24ann.html

    Chris

    16 Aug 12 at 9:38 pm

  448. and exercise a living sovereignty over humanity and the earth.

    No, neither Flannery or I said that.

  449. New England real estate is hot to boiling. Why? Because people know even the most out of the way place will be among the first in the nation to get the NBN,

    More likely speculators moving in to buy up cheap housing before all the CSG companies hit town looking for accomodation. Who in their right mind would leave a major city to move to Armidale just because it has broadband the same speed as the city they are leaving?

    Your a dickhead febrile

    Splatacrobat

    16 Aug 12 at 9:39 pm

  450. That would be a statistically insignificant poll, jimmy boy.

    You’re a scumbag, liar and a fool febbie.

    540 sample of pop 20,000 will give a moe of <3%

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 9:40 pm

  451. Pickering’s run out of material, and the creative writing aspect (that is, he is making details up) continues to increase.

    He a nutjob obsessive who feels free to defame because he’s bankrupt.

  452. You’re a scumbag, liar and a fool febbie.

    540 sample of pop 20,000 will give a moe of <3%

    Conceivably, this means that the labor and green votes there are actually closer to 0%.

    Rob

    16 Aug 12 at 9:45 pm

  453. Pickering’s run out of material, and the creative writing aspect (that is, he is making details up) continues to increase.

    As usual, you haven’t got a clue what your talking about, you waste of food.

    Fuck off back to your hovel.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 9:45 pm

  454. Pickering’s run out of material, and the creative writing aspect (that is, he is making details up) continues to increase.

    He a nutjob obsessive who feels free to defame because he’s bankrupt.

    That doesn’t seem plausible to me liar.

    Are you confused with yourself?

    Can you really be bankrupt if your wife is feeding and clothing you?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 9:46 pm

  455. Tom, you are a very aggressive man. Counseling might help. You can let us start the healing process. Tell us about your childhood first: the first time you remember being dropped on your head might be a start…

  456. 540 sample of pop 20,000 will give a moe of <3%

    Sinc i vote sheer persistent stupidity is reason enough to banwhich is statistically insignificant. 10% at least to have any cred.

    LOL.

    That deserves a liberty quote Sinc.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 9:49 pm

  457. 540 sample of pop 20,000 will give a moe of <3%

    which is statistically insignificant. 10% at least to have any cred.

    LOL.

    That deserves a liberty quote Sinc.

    Or is sheer persistent stupidity reason enough to ban?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 9:50 pm

  458. 540 sample of pop 20,000 will give a moe of <3%

    which is statistically insignificant. 10% at least to have any cred.

    Hahahaha!!!

    Clueless.

    Fuck off.

    Sinc, are you sure you’ve checked this email address? Sounds awfully like Les or Samson.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 9:50 pm

  459. Tom, you are a very aggressive man.

    No, you’re confused because you’re as weak as piss. And we’re only taking your word for it that you’re a man. You sound a lot like a number of butch dykes I used to know.

    Fuck off.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 9:54 pm

  460. The proof is in the pudding. To wit, that New England real estate is hot to boiling. Why? Because people know even the most out of the way place will be among the first in the nation to get the NBN, thanks to King Windsor.

    How removed from reality can one person get. This shit is like the edge of crazy.

    John Mc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:56 pm

  461. The proof is in the pudding. To wit, that New England real estate is hot to boiling. Why? Because people know even the most out of the way place will be among the first in the nation to get the NBN, thanks to King Windsor.

    How removed from reality can one person get. This shit is like the edge of crazy.

    John Mc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:56 pm

  462. Tom, tell us now about your first embittering experience. I’ve got the pipe lit and the writing pad ready…

  463. Fucking iPad.

    John Mc

    16 Aug 12 at 9:58 pm

  464. Economist writes about Paul Ryan’s imaginary expertise

  465. Pickering’s run out of material,…..

    Don’t about Pickering, but you definitely have.

    Keith

    16 Aug 12 at 9:59 pm

  466. Tom, tell us now about your first embittering experience. I’ve got the pipe lit and the writing pad ready

    When he first realised life means sometimes dealing with turds like you?

    John Mc

    16 Aug 12 at 10:01 pm

  467. AUSTRALIA’S push to bring in the world’s toughest tobacco packaging laws has won the backing of the High Court – but some of the nation’s leading healthcare executives have called on Canberra to take the next step and ban cigarettes.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/push-grows-for-total-smoke-ban-20120815-249dn.html#ixzz23i4PVuRo

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 10:01 pm

  468. There do seem to be an unusual number of “Toms” at this place lately.

  469. Can you really be bankrupt if your wife is feeding and clothing you?

    Sure you can. Ex-keddies partner has declared bankruptcy owing millions and his wife has assets worth millions of dollars which the creditors can’t touch. Seems to be a pretty common strategy to avoid creditors.

    Chris

    16 Aug 12 at 10:05 pm

  470. Economist writes about Paul Ryan’s imaginary expertise

    What the dickhead is really saying is an economist, not the economist. It’s an economist no one has ever heard of.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 10:10 pm

  471. Ezra Klein has some graphs and questions up about the Ryan budget.

  472. Economist writes about Paul Ryan’s imaginary expertise

    What do you think it says liar?

    Do you agree or disagree?

    Is it a good article or is it a one paragraph blog post by a leftist fuckwit?

    Do we care?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 10:11 pm

  473. JC, why don’t you actually address the questions that these articles raise.

    See, what I suspect is going on here is that you would agree with the earlier article by “an” economist (he’s not the only one to note this) about Ryan pretty flakey on a couple of important economic points, but because you are a tribal nong of the highest order, you don’t want to criticise him.

  474. Nanuestalker

    16 Aug 12 at 10:14 pm

  475. JamesK: the criticisms in the both of the last two links sound perfectly reasonable to me.

  476. boy on a bike

    16 Aug 12 at 10:21 pm

  477. sound perfectly reasonable to me.

    Translation: contains words I use to communicate with two-year-olds.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 10:22 pm

  478. Tim Flannery says Gaia is soon to be physically manifested:

    Robyn Williams: So there you’ve got an image of the earth, the planet as a god, but also a very sophisticated and credible scientific idea.

    Tim Flannery: That’s right. I was tempted in the book to simply give in and call it Earth System Science, because Gaia is earth system science and in many university departments around the world, as you’ll know, Robyn, earth system science is a very respectable science. But as soon as you mention Gaia of course, the scepticism comes out. I didn’t do that though, because I think there’s a certain elegance to Gaia, to that word and the concept, and also because I think that within this century the concept of the strong Gaia will actually become physically manifest. I do think that the Gaia of the Ancient Greeks, where they believed the earth was effectively one whole and perfect living creature, that doesn’t exist yet, but it will exist in future. That’s why I wanted to keep that word…

    We’ll never be able to control the earth, there’s no doubt about it. We can’t control its systems. But we can nudge them and we can foresee danger. Once that occurs, then the Gaia of the Ancient Greeks really will exist. This planet, this Gaia, will have acquired a brain and a nervous system. That will make it act as a living animal, as a living organism, at some sort of level.

    Gaia Is Risen.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 10:23 pm

  479. Locked in:

    Obama rules out replacing mentally challenged Veep.

    Woo-hoo!

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 10:25 pm

  480. Scumbag Assange has issued a statement:

    “In a communication this morning to the government of Ecuador, the UK threatened to forcefully enter the Ecuadorean embassy in London and arrest Julian Assange.

    The UK claims the power to do so under the Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987.

    This claim is without basis.

    By midnight, two hours prior to the time of this announcement, the embassy had been surrounded by police, in a menacing show of force.

    Any transgression against the sanctity of the embassy is a unilateral and shameful act, and a violation of the Vienna Convention, which protects embassies worldwide.

    This threat is designed to preempt Ecuador’s imminent decision on whether it will grant Julian Assange political asylum, and to bully Ecuador into a decision that is agreeable to the United Kingdom and its allies.

    WikiLeaks condemns in the strongest possible terms the UK’s resort to intimidation.

    A threat of this nature is a hostile and extreme act, which is not proportionate to the circumstances, and an unprecedented assault on the rights of asylum seekers worldwide.

    We draw attention to the fact that the United Nations General Assembly has unanimously declared in Resolution 2312 (1967) that

    “the grant of asylum. . . is a peaceful and humanitarian act and that, as such, it cannot be regarded as unfriendly by any other State.”

    Pursuant to this resolution, a decision to grant asylum cannot be construed by another State as an unfriendly act. Neither can there be diplomatic consequences for granting asylum.

    We remind the public that these extraordinary actions are being taken to detain a man who has not been charged with any crime in any country.

    WikiLeaks joins the Government of Ecuador in urging the UK to resolve this situation according to peaceful norms of conduct.

    We further urge the UK government to show restraint, and to consider the dire ramifications of any violation of the elementary norms of international law.

    We ask that the UK respect Ecuador’s sovereign right to deliver a decision of its own making on Julian Assange’s asylum bid.

    Noting that Ecuador has called for emergency summits of OAS and UNASUR in response to this development, WikiLeaks asks those bodies to support Ecuador’s rights in this matter, and to oppose any attempts to coerce a decision.

    We note with interest that this development coincides with the UK Secretary of State William Hague’s assumption of executive responsibilities during the vacation of the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister.

    Mr Hague’s department, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, has overseen the negotiations to date with Ecuador in the matter of Mr Assange’s asylum bid.

    If Mr Hague has, as would be expected, approved this decision, WikiLeaks calls for his immediate resignation.”

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 10:25 pm

  481. Assange is such a drama queen. Can we now expect Ecuador and the UK to go to war over that low rent gossip monger?

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:27 pm

  482. Assange granted asylum

    Nanuestalker

    16 Aug 12 at 10:29 pm

  483. CL if you wonder why Biden has been kept on, recall the practice of ancient kings who kept a seriously ugly attendant on staff so the king would never be the most ugly person in the room.

    Poor Old Rafe

    16 Aug 12 at 10:29 pm

  484. Hopefully Ecuador gives the UK the middle finger. Make the US wait a little longer and work a little harder for it’s pound of flesh.

    Driftforge

    16 Aug 12 at 10:32 pm

  485. Assange is personally responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Africans and dozens of anti-Taliban operatives. He also quite clearly believes himself to be indefensible on those rape charges.

    Naturally, he’s a hero to the Western left.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 10:32 pm

  486. Assange granted asylum

    Sweet.

    Driftforge

    16 Aug 12 at 10:33 pm

  487. CL if you wonder why Biden has been kept on, recall the practice of ancient kings who kept a seriously ugly attendant on staff so the king would never be the most ugly person in the room.

    True true, Rafe.

    But that’s what Rudd was doing with Gillard as Deputy, remember?

    A heartbeat away, my friend. A heartbeat away.

    :)

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 10:34 pm

  488. Not sure why Assange thinks he is above the law, other than him being an anarchist that is.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:34 pm

  489. Oh dear. Didn’t I tell you last night you were a bore, CL? Where in your cut and paste does it say Gaia will:

    exercise a living sovereignty over humanity and the earth.

    Your understanding of metaphor is as deep as Tom’s, who last night thought I was saying that Rudd would literally be killed by his own party.

    Speaking of Tom: let’s move on to your first humiliation in the classroom…

  490. Are you really barracking for that shitkicker, Driftforge? Why?

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 10:38 pm

  491. Largely because it’s good to see the statists take a loss, however it comes, whoever it comes with.

    Driftforge

    16 Aug 12 at 10:44 pm

  492. Scott Morrison did an excellent presser outside today. He handled a belligerent Paul Bongiorno very well. You’d almost believe there were no other journalists there. Not so much asking questions as arguing; here’s a sample, representative of the childish behaviour by the “journalist”:

    JOURNALIST:
    Well John Howard did, he gave a couple of hundreds of Tampa people.

    MORRISON:
    Those people weren’t convicted of piracy.

    JOURNALIST:
    They weren’t even charged.

    MORRISON:
    They weren’t convicted of piracy. Paul, if you’re trying to imply here, as it doesn’t surprise me, that somehow the Howard Government was soft on the people on the Tampa…

    JOURNALIST:
    [inaudible]

    MORRISON:
    I’ll let you make that argument in your piece tonight on Channel 10 but the Australian people do not doubt the resolve of John Howard on this issue, they do not doubt the resolve of Tony Abbott or myself or Michael and they can count on a Coalition Government showing that same resolve because they can’t count on this government to stump up when stumping up is required. Thanks.

    Morrison did very well with those annoying facts and figures, which, by the sounds of it, upset the Canberra Stenographer the most. (I caught part of it live this morning, it’s just a pity “tone” doesn’t translate well in print).

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:49 pm

  493. Here’s the lying house clown describing Rudd’s impending “metaphorical” assassination:

    It’s becoming clear that the biggest danger to Kevin Rudd, as soon as he gets IR legislation through the Senate, will be assassination by someone on the Left of his own party. Well OK, maybe not assassination, but a convenient accidental fall from some high point around Parliament House.

    Such a powerful writer reflecting the common opinion around parliament house in 2007.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 10:54 pm

  494. Now the Left are saying diplomatic immunity is inviolate and that it would be an “act of war” for the UK to fulfill it’s extradition obligations.

    Naturally, they didn’t say this during the Iranian hostage crisis, or the Danish Cartoons riots. They were totally fine with attacking embassies back then.

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 10:54 pm

  495. Naturally, he’s a hero to the Western left.

    The Left literally gave David Hicks a standing ovation for trying to kill brown Indians. Applauding rape is actually an improvement, for the Left at least.

    Fisky

    16 Aug 12 at 10:56 pm

  496. Assange granted asylum

    It’s amazing what can be achieved when one has rich and powerful people on their side.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 10:57 pm

  497. Now the Left are saying diplomatic immunity is inviolate and that it would be an “act of war” for the UK to fulfill it’s extradition obligations.

    Naturally, they didn’t say this during the Iranian hostage crisis, or the Danish Cartoons riots. They were totally fine with attacking embassies back then.

    Come to think of it, they didn’t have a problem with the violation of diplomatic immunity with respect to the cables that he released. Underlining just what hypocrites he and his supporters are.

    Rob

    16 Aug 12 at 11:02 pm

  498. Windsor is, and always has been, motivated by little more than an irrational hatred of the National Party. His hatred of Tony Abbott is merely an extension of that.

    Quentin George

    16 Aug 12 at 11:03 pm

  499. You can’t get away with this shit in a small town:

    NORTHERN Territory Labor’s election campaign has been derailed after a spin doctor was stood down for making threats against a newspaper over a negative story about a Labor candidate in a key seat.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 11:04 pm

  500. It’s amazing what can be achieved when one has rich and powerful people on their side.

    Considering that the opposition here is the most powerful government in the world, its nice to have friends.

    Driftforge

    16 Aug 12 at 11:08 pm

  501. Tim Flannery says Gaia

    Actually, he says Gaya. Just something else he gets wrong.

    Septimus

    16 Aug 12 at 11:09 pm

  502. Considering that the opposition here is the most powerful government in the world, its nice to have friends.

    Sweden? Ikea must have really taken over.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 11:09 pm

  503. JC, why don’t you actually address the questions that these articles raise.

    Okay I will. I disagree with Ryan on monetary policy. I believe Bernanke is not doing a good job for the opposite reason Ryan thinks Bernanke is not doing a good job. Do you get that?

    I think Bernanke is too tight with monetary policy while Ryan thinks he’s far to easy.

    Ryan, like a large number of people on the Right make the error in thinkin the interest level tell uss if monetary policy is easy or tight. I believe they mistakenly think that low interest rates mean easy monetary policy in the US’s case. I agree with Scott Sumner that low interest rates, in fact ultra low rates (bond yields), indicate extreme weakness in the economy.

    I’m very concerned listening to both Romney and Ryan suggest they will tighten fiscal policy and fire Bernanke to appoint a hard currency chairman at the Fed. This could cause a serious tipping over of the economy into depression.

    By the way the Kenyan has appointed or reappointed 6 of the 7 Fed governors and they have all backed Bernanke by maintaining a tight policy, so it’s really no better on that side of the political fence either. Bernanke also does know better but refuses to act.

    I agree with a hard currency objective, however the goods and labor markets have to be extremely flexible in being able to adjust and there are no economies which are that flexible anymore.

    Romney’s fiscal plan is eminently achievable with a Fed that is targeting nominal GDP at around 5%.

    Do you understand any of that Step?

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm

  504. You’d think Ryan was running for President. Romney’s choice has the Dems and their attendant window-lickers running in circles.

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm

  505. A tip for future ref: Fairfax websites virtually shut down around 5pm. If a story breaks between 6pm and midnight, News is usually hours ahead. The Daily Tele broke the Assange asylum story at 9pm, FXJ not until 11pm.

    Tom

    16 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm

  506. Okay I will. I disagree with Ryan on monetary policy. I believe Bernanke is not doing a good job for the opposite reason Ryan thinks Bernanke is not doing a good job.

    Let’s not forget that JC is a bankster who wears Gucci Jeans.

    Infidel Tiger

    16 Aug 12 at 11:16 pm

  507. Are people hailing Ecuador as some sort of plucky saviour here?

    Let Assange start publishing leaks against his beloved Correa – the man who wages all out war on neswpapers by shutting them down and sending journalists and newspaper executives to prison.

    Also isn’t it a little ironic that Assange is “escaping” the suffocating leftist feminist rape laws of Sweden by escaping to a country that is 95% Roman Catholic? What are we to derive from the lefts joy at this? That the laws that they themselves advocate for, when applied in real life are to be denounced and escaped from?

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 11:17 pm

  508. You’d think Ryan was running for President. Romney’s choice has the Dems and their attendant window-lickers running in circles.

    VP Ryan is inaugurated President in January 2021, d_b.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 11:18 pm

  509. ECUADOR’S decision to grant political asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange changes nothing and Britain has an “obligation” to extradite him to Sweden, the Foreign Office has said.

    Commenting on the “disappointing” decision, a spokeswoman said: “Under our law, with Mr Assange having exhausted all options of appeal, the British authorities are under a binding obligation to extradite him to Sweden. We shall carry out that obligation.”

    Good.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/uk-will-meet-obligation-to-extradite-assange/story-e6frfkui-1226452161121#ixzz23iNlyVRw

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:19 pm

  510. Let’s not forget that JC is a bankster who wears Gucci Jeans.

    As long as it’s not Gucci penny loafers.

    That would mean a permanent ban at da Cat

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 11:20 pm

  511. Let’s not forget that JC is a bankster who wears Gucci Jeans

    and a beret and alligator belt with huge buckle.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:21 pm

  512. Considering that the opposition here is the most powerful government in the world, its nice to have friends.

    Such extraordinary derangement.

    A mutated BusHitler / truther strain.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 11:21 pm

  513. And by the way Stepord, I believe the US is suffering from two things. It’s been hit with supply and demand shock. The demand shock was basically the GFC. The supply side shock is the current administration.

    Romney’s plan would greatly assist in reducing the supply shock through his many economic initiatives such as repealing Kenyancare, gutting Sarbanes Oxley, promoting energy security that would allow for a huge increase in exploration and bringing the oil/gas to market through the Keystone pipeline.

    These are admirable policies in addition to simplifying the tax code and lowering the rates by reducing deductions.

    I have a problem on the conduct of monetary policy as I don’t agree with the Right’s direction on this single point.

    Ryan needs to understand that fiscal retrenchment also requires monetary policy easing.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 11:24 pm

  514. Obama: I Don’t Think Anyone Would Suggest I’ve Tried To Divide The Country

    “We’re going around the country, talking about, ‘How do we put people back to work? How do we improve our schools? How do we make sure that we’re producing American energy? How do we lower our debt in a responsible way?’ And I don’t think you or anybody who’s been watching the campaign would say that in any way we have tried to divide the country. We’ve always tried to bring the country together,” President Obama said in an interview with Entertainment Tonight.

    Who? lil’ ol’ me?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 11:25 pm

  515. Good.

    Why good? Let him live out his life in hyper catholic, green-left NGO crawling, emerging tin pot dictatorship Ecuador.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 11:26 pm

  516. Do you understand any of that Step?

    No, not all of it. But enough that, as I suspected, you would agree with some of the criticisms rushing out about things Ryan has said about economics.

    Ta.

  517. VP Ryan is inaugurated President in January 2021, d_b.

    That’s the plan, JamesK.

    dover_beach

    16 Aug 12 at 11:29 pm

  518. Stepford

    Monetary policy is a very arcane area of economics. The fact that I disagree with Ryan on this point suggests very little.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 11:30 pm

  519. Ryan needs to understand that fiscal retrenchment also requires monetary policy easing.

    Wouldn’t ‘purse-string easing’ of private equity presently on the sidelines be actually inhibited by more Fed quantitative easing, JC?

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 11:34 pm

  520. I had considered that, twostix, so I figure it’s a win-win. He either gets to front up to court in Sweden with his expensive barristers who are more than happy to do the work pro-bono; then when he is cleared he’ll be extradited to the US for further court proceedings.

    Or, as you say, he goes to Ecuador and enjoys freedom in a place where the Press Freedom Index sits at 104, just a bit below Chad but above Nepal on the index.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:34 pm

  521. JC: Seeing you’re engaging in a normal tone at the moment, I thought that much of what David A Stockman wrote about what is really needed made sense, particularly a national sales tax, but Ryan and Romney apparently don’t support that.

    Herman Cain did, but went way over the top with it.

    I also liked the way that Stockman wrote:

    The Ryan Plan boils down to a fetish for cutting the top marginal income-tax rate for “job creators” — i.e. the superwealthy — to 25 percent and paying for it with an as-yet-undisclosed plan to broaden the tax base.

    because I think “fetish” describes exactly the situation with Republicans and tax cuts at the moment.

  522. James

    No James as that isn’t monetary policy. It’s basically a very good supply side reform. Don’t forget that Romney is talking about some heavy duty fiscal retrenchment (obviously needed) while at the same time suggesting he would fire Bernanke and appoint a hard currency guy in the seat.

    Tight monetary policy and tight fiscal policy would be absolutely toxic.

    By the way the current Fed, basically appointed by the Kenyan, is only a degree better and that’s not by design either.

    The $2 trillion sitting on the sidelines is the indicator or symptom of serious supply side shock which the Kenyan is totally responsible for.

    I think though that the economic advisers Romney has on the team (Mankiw and John Taylor) will set things straight. ultimately it would Romney calling the shots in this area and not Ryan. Ryan’s job will be primarily about the budget.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 11:43 pm

  523. because I think “fetish” describes exactly the situation with Republicans and tax cuts at the moment.

    So what?

    You are a pervert and a tosser, liar.

    JamesK

    16 Aug 12 at 11:44 pm

  524. Can somebody tell me if Gaia Alive believer Steve apologised, as required by me, when I caught him out lying about that bishops’ statement yesterday?

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 11:46 pm

  525. CL, there was no lying. You are a twit.

  526. Or, as you say, he goes to Ecuador and enjoys freedom in a place where the Press Freedom Index sits at 104, just a bit below Chad but above Nepal on the index.

    And in five years once the left have well and truly forgotten all about him and he’s back to just being a regular shmoe, he gets to contemplate the fact that he’s now confined to the ever so vibrant Ecuador for the next fifty years or so, and will forever live under a cloud of suspicion and government paranoia there.

    I bet if he does “escape” the UK, in twenty years he’ll look back and regret not just spending a month in some swedish weekend “rehabilitation” motel/gaol instead of taking a lifetime sentence in order to secure a few months of “fame” and backpatting by deranged urban leftists way back in 2011/2012.

    twostix

    16 Aug 12 at 11:49 pm

  527. Karma, baby, karma.

    Gab

    16 Aug 12 at 11:51 pm

  528. appoint a hard currency guy in the seat.

    And for that one I wouldn’t mind tossing the Paulians a bone.

    Alex Pundit

    16 Aug 12 at 11:52 pm

  529. Stepford.

    Both Ryan and Romney have said many times that they are not giving any tax cuts to the rich as their tax plan is revenue neutral.

    Romney/Ryan’s tax plan is a good one. The idea is to close down as many deductions as possible which would greatly simply the tax code and then lower the marginal tax rates.

    Romney has stated many times that his main focus would be in assisting the middle class so I would expect that the biggest cut in the marginals would be in the middle class rates.

    This plan would ordinarily be supported by every sane economist and you should also be aware this is the sort of tax system we have in Australia.

    You may not know this, but do you realize that you can claim a tax deduction on the mortgage interest paid on vacation homes in the US. And by the way “vacation homes” also includes boats! So you can buy a boat on credit and claim an interest deduction up to $1 million dollars. In fact you can own a primary residence, vacation home and a boat claiming interest deduction for all three things up to $1 million.

    I’m betting they would do away with the vacation home shit and lots of other deductions.

    They have also said they would remove the carried interest tax bonanza that hedge funds enjoy with a tax rate of only 15%.

    They also want to lower corp tax and do away with all sorts of spurious deductions while also keeping revenue neutral.

    I think this side of the plan is just great.

    JC

    16 Aug 12 at 11:54 pm

  530. Steve, I suggest you read Dan Mitchell’s blog from time to time.

    He has pointed out that Ryan and Romney have made comments that somewhat support a VAT.

    Alex Pundit

    16 Aug 12 at 11:55 pm

  531. fire Bernanke and appoint a hard currency guy in the seat.

    So that will be Ron Paul’s job then as I haven’t heard of any other serious hard currency people. And don’t say some banker who accepted bail out funds (cheap interest and income from government debt) Don’t know if he would techinically qualify but any banker in the Fed system can’t really qualify as they are tainted.

    kelly liddle

    16 Aug 12 at 11:57 pm

  532. Yes, Steve. You lied. Not only that but I went to the bishops’ official site and found that you’d actually quoted from a summary, not the original letter – and, furthermore, that you’d collated two seperate letters while only mentioning one. On top of that, the letters were submitted to the Congressional budget people well before Paul Ryan was nominated. Finally, the only side of politics condemned by name by the bishops was the Obama administration. They also cited the unborn as representatives’ first moral responsibility – in relation to the vulnerable.

    Not only did you lie but you posted a matrix of lies.

    But, then, that’s what you do.

    C.L.

    16 Aug 12 at 11:58 pm

  533. C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:00 am

  534. This goofball is the biggest leftwing partisan of all the news anchors and he as the audacity to say he doesn’t endorse a candidate. Bullshit!

    “We’ve been covering substantive issues this whole time,” NBC “Nightly News” anchor Brian Williams said on Comedy Central’s “Daily Show” when pressed by host Jon Stewart when the media will start covering issues.

    “Wait until people get a bite out of his voting record,” Williams warned. “Wait until more people understand the vote on TARP. Wait til we get down the road.”

    “Today, specifically, as I said tonight, was a terrible day for discourse in a democracy. With 84 days left to go until the election; you had Biden’s comment last night. Rudy Giuliani comes out today, says Biden isn’t smart enough to be president. You had Romney upset because of Biden last night. And you had Team Obama hitting back at Romney. We can’t, as a country, keep doing this,” Williams said. He then referred to a New York Times article on political discourse in the country.

    “There is no decent discourse going on,” William said.

    When pressed who would be the person to fix this, Williams would not endorse a candidate.

    “I wish I knew. You know I don’t do that kind of thing, Jon,” Williams said.

    Keep in mind this creepy moron once said on the Letterman show that he was so taken with the Kenyan’s kids he’d love to take the younger one to a park and watch her play on the swings. Yuck.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/15/brian_williams_on_paul_ryan_wait_until_people_get_a_bite_of_his_voting_record.html

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 12:01 am

  535. With the proviso that I have not read this thread but has anyone noticed that in the last thread “febro” answered a question put directly to “steve from brisbane”.

    I smell socks.

    Just Another bloody Lawyer

    17 Aug 12 at 12:01 am

  536. I think this side of the plan is just great.

    Yep agree with you there JC but lets get back to reality land where the budget will balance in 30 years time assuming 4% growth in the near future. 4% growth could be achievable by just not being hard currency and printing like now. Inflation plus population growth has to bring it there eventually.

    kelly liddle

    17 Aug 12 at 12:03 am

  537. No kidding, the Kenyan needs to get a restraining order to keep Brian Williams away from his kids.

    He was talking about them on the Letterman show and here he is again, this time doing an entire news segment on them.

    What a strange creep.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMli3GBYbKc

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 12:06 am

  538. With the proviso that I have not read this thread but has anyone noticed that in the last thread “febro” answered a question put directly to “steve from brisbane”.

    I smell socks.

    naa… I have another theory. I think Feebie is Trannie phil.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 12:10 am

  539. Chicago Erects Memorial Marker to Commemorate Site of Obamas’ First Kiss.

    “Mr Romney, tear down this absurd memorial!”

    Seriously, how sycophantic and sickening.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 12:12 am

  540. I wonder if Hawaii will erect a plaque.

    “Obama’s First Bong.”

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:14 am

  541. Brian Williams says goodnight to Obama, bows low:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLYtHHxTTmc

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:17 am

  542. Chicago Erects Memorial Marker to Commemorate Site of Obamas’ First Kiss.

    God, is America sick or something?

    Alex Pundit

    17 Aug 12 at 12:20 am

  543. Time for the brass knuckles…

    Politico: Romney: No more ‘Obama’s A Nice Guy’.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:20 am

  544. But at least he didn’t bow as low as Obama did to a Saudi prince.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 12:22 am

  545. Business owner tells Biden’s entourage he doesn’t want the fucker in his store because he doesn’t agree with their polices and was offended by “you didn’t build that”.

    http://www.wdbj7.com/news/wdbj7-radford-business-owner-declines-joe-bidens-request-to-stop-in-store-20120815,0,4370357.story

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 12:26 am

  546. God, is America sick or something?

    No. But Chicago is though.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 12:27 am

  547. Time for the brass knuckles…

    Politico: Romney: No more ‘Obama’s A Nice Guy’.

    It’s interesting.

    The insults use not bother Romney.

    He used tjust say: ‘put up or shut up’.

    I think the attacks on Ryan have brought out his aggressive side.

    That speaks well of Romney as well

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 12:35 am

  548. America is a great country, etc, but it’s a bit of a puzzle as to how odd some of their tax system has ended up, and why it seems such a political hurtle to get even modest, or kinda obvious, reforms done without going over the top.

    There is, I think, in Australia a kind of more level headed pragmatism in political or economic debate, and has been for quite a while now. Present company excepted most of the time, of course….

    I’ll annoy Jason again now by blaming Ayn Rand for her nutifying influence on American political-economic discourse….

    Steve from brisbane

    17 Aug 12 at 12:38 am

  549. Elizabeth Warren elopement story falls apart
    William A. Jacobson

    And the truth keeps getting worse for Warren, as new evidence demonstrates the falsity of her claim that her parents were forced to elope because her father’s family rejected her mother due to her mother being part Cherokee and part Delaware.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 12:41 am

  550. THE Indonesian crew of an asylum boat that sparked a massive rescue effort left rescuers shocked when they sailed off in the boat that the Australian Maritime Safety Authority had believed was stricken.

    Merchant vessel Maersk Diadema was responding to a mayday call from AMSA on Monday when it steamed towards the asylum boat about 70 nautical miles southwest of Bali. AMSA, in turn, was responding to distress calls from someone onboard the asylum boat.

    You know, they’re going to cry wolf once too often…

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 12:47 am

  551. Very interesting headline at Drudge at the moment. Very, very interesting.

    Alex Pundit

    17 Aug 12 at 1:00 am

  552. There is, I think, in Australia a kind of more level headed pragmatism in political or economic debate, and has been for quite a while now. Present company excepted most of the time, of course….

    That is true and why it has happened as it has in the US is of interest and concern to me. We do seem to copy many things. I think one thing that appears to be different is our public servants will say that is stupid on occassion, notably our Reserve Bank governor about Banking. Us going down the same path is always a threat and probably comes about when lobbyists gain control. Whether it is the farm lobby or the manufacturing lobby or any other lobby listening to them can be very harmful.

    kelly liddle

    17 Aug 12 at 1:12 am

  553. It’s OK, Obama People.

    He tried; you tried. It’s OK to admit that it just didn’t work out the way y’all had hoped it would.

    Just don’t fucking do it again, right?

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 1:24 am

  554. No kidding, the Kenyan needs to get a restraining order to keep Brian Williams away from his kids.

    His 12 yo daughter is 5’9″? Wow! (I’m only 5’8″)

    Fleeced

    17 Aug 12 at 1:42 am

  555. Chris Moody on Twitter:

    Paul Ryan in Ohio just now: “As Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada!”

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 2:07 am

  556. #ObamaAteADogLyrics twitchy.com/2012/08/16/oba…Because, you know, Obama ate a dog. And I’m sorry, but it’s still funny.— sdog (@s_dog) August 16, 2012

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 2:20 am

  557. #auspol has been fun today.

    Abu Chowdah

    17 Aug 12 at 2:27 am

  558. You know you’ve got a good sign outside your business when people stop to have their picture taken with it…

    I’m Bob Roggendorff and I approve this message.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 2:38 am

  559. Here’s a twist to the report JC provided:

    Here’s the back story, we’re told that shortly after Crumb and Get It told Biden’s advance people ‘no’ — the secret service walked in and told Chris McMurray ”Thanks for standing up and saying ‘no’ — then they bought a whole bunch of cookies and cupcakes.

    Did I read that correctly? Did the Secret Service detail really walk in, thank this guy for telling Biden’s people to fuck off, and then reward him with their business? Wow.

    Chicago Erects Memorial Marker to Commemorate Site of Obamas’ First Kiss

    A level of sycophancy bordering upon the fellatory.

    perturbed

    17 Aug 12 at 4:13 am

  560. The economy created by the world’s greatest treasurer steams ahead:

    THE value of shares traded on the Australian Securities Exchange has tumbled to a seven-year low as household investors pull back from the market.

    ASX Limited has revealed the average value of securities traded on the exchange clocked in at about $3.5 billion a day in the six weeks since the end of the financial year. It is down more than 35 per cent on the same period last year, and the lowest level since 2007.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 5:03 am

  561. Chicago Erects Memorial Marker to Commemorate Site of Obamas’ First Kiss

    A level of sycophancy bordering upon the fellatory.

    “It Tasted Like Chocolate.” Apparently.

    #TMI

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 5:28 am

  562. SfB and Phil Coorey could jointly sponsor a monument to Julia’s first … Oh, never mind. Their whole lives are that monument.

    Blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 6:21 am

  563. Potemkin’s Village

    Wisdom of Solomon… here

    Grigory Potemkin

    17 Aug 12 at 7:30 am

  564. Professor David Flint is calling for a Royal Commission into the Gillard-AWU scandal

    Link

    “and in the meantime legislation should be passed to raise the standards of probity and integrity required by trade union officials to that of company directors in Australia.”

    Good luck with that.

    Rudiau

    17 Aug 12 at 7:44 am

  565. Sinc, do we have a Wanker of the Week Award? Could we start one?:

    Assange said the decision was “a significant victory for myself, and my people”.

    H/T Bolt.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 8:34 am

  566. Professor David Flint is calling for a Royal Commission into the Gillard-AWU scandal

    Good news. This should really get the shredders going around Australia.

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 8:43 am

  567. Assange said the decision was “a significant victory for myself, and my people”.

    His people lol

    H/T Blair

    Rudiau

    17 Aug 12 at 8:46 am

  568. Artur Davis must be really p*ssed at Obama. This man was among the first in congress to endorse his bid for the presidency and was co-chair of his campaign.

    In the past few months he switched from the Demoncrats to Republicans and now call out the Obama admin for race baiting in National Review while ignore the real issues effecting the black community that Davis represents:

    Obama’s Hidden-Hand Politics
    Team Obama implies that to defeat Obama is to suspend progress on race.

    Of course, there are different kinds of progress. There is the inconvenient fact that Obama has governed while black unemployment and the level of child hunger in the black community have risen to the highest rates in the modern era, and while educational achievement among African Americans continues to bottom out at appalling levels. This record is one that the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus said last summer would lead blacks to march outside the White House if it had a different occupant.

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 8:53 am

  569. Let Assange start publishing leaks against his beloved Correa – the man who wages all out war on neswpapers by shutting them down and sending journalists and newspaper executives to prison.

    I think it is good news that Assange was given refuge by a press-censoring autocrat. Assange has been recording interviews for TV channels controlled by Putin.

    He is a very useful idiot for the autocrats around the world.

    What better way to get the blogospher on the right to focus on the regressive South American regimes that dress up their authoritarianism in a cloak of Marxism?

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 8:59 am

  570. Big-spending zombies face hard landing: Treasury

    Treasury has warned that the surge in tax revenue before the global financial crisis was an unsustainable “bubble” and that Labor’s mounting list of big-ticket spending promises will have to be funded by deep cuts elsewhere …

    Treasury secretary Martin Parkinson also gave a sombre assessment of the global economy that could have implications for the Gillard government’s plan to return the budget to surplus this financial year.

    Dr Parkinson said there was an expectations gap: taxpayers wanted more from government than they were prepared to pay for. Taxes might need to be raised and public services cut to meet political promises, he said.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 9:35 am

  571. Correa says the local media are just using the guise of journalism to meddle in politics and destabilize governments for fear of losing power.

    FMD does that sound at all familiar??

    Bolt

    Ecuador’s fight against its media vultures

    Old Fridgie

    17 Aug 12 at 9:51 am

  572. “That was different”

    It is different Grigory.

    People who murder pregnant women generally should be hanged.

    No one is going to ban abortions, it simply can’t be done anyway in a meaningful way.

    Full term abortions are legal in Australia? Really?

    Medicare should not fund it. This is a separate issue to the punishment of a double murderer, whom let me guess, you think should be actually let off (i.e given a life sentence) because of what your insane utopian Christianity tells you about being “pro life”?

    You’re just an impractical person.

    .

    17 Aug 12 at 9:59 am

  573. It’s official!

    Obama will run with mentally unbalanced Biden.

    The Hill: White House says Obama will stick with Biden as running mate.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:34 am

  574. “Exciting” new weapon in West’s ongoing suicide, beta males rejoicing:

    Researchers stumble upon male pill breakthrough.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:36 am

  575. Industrial Relations South African style

    Warning – graphic content

    Taken in isolation, this is a polarising news image with the camera person practically in the front line as all hell breaks loose at a strike-bound South African platinum mine.

    The background from the Oz suggests tensions boiling over for days:

    The unrest at the Lonmin mine began on August 10, as about 3000 workers walked off the job over pay in what management described as an illegal strike.

    Those who tried to go to work Saturday were attacked, management and the National Union of Mineworkers said. On Sunday, the rage became deadly as a crowd killed two security guards by setting their car ablaze, authorities said.

    By Monday, angry mobs killed two other workers and overpowered police, killing two officers, officials said. Officers opened fire that day, killing three others, police said.

    and one of the commenters on the Youtube site says:

    the miner with the pistol who fired 3 shots right before the barage doomed them all… listen and watch and youll catch it… around 0:12 as shocking as this is… the police are responding to being shot at..

    Wow – and mining investors are beating a retreat to Africa because of the perception that Australia is a political risk ! The opportunities and investment were there to be had, and we have flushed it away ( metaphoric ‘we’ – I didn’t vote for this rabble ).

    Myrrdin Seren

    17 Aug 12 at 10:45 am

  576. Great moments in Twitter – not so much.

    Clarkson “as an experiment” Tweeted the passing of his family’s dog.

    The troll armies marched on the grief struck Clarkson Twitter feed.

    And Clarkson rallied and fires volleys in all directions:

    “Britain is a nation of 62 million complete and utter b*****ds.

    Indeed – but perhaps a further lesson that not placing every waking moment of action and thought on social media might be the better part of discretion for the celebrity class ?

    Myrrdin Seren

    17 Aug 12 at 10:52 am

  577. UPDATE:

    Parliamentary Speaker Peter Slipper is expected to withdraw in the Federal Court his claim that his former staffer James Ashby “unlawfully” leaked his diary before launching a sexual harassment case. The matter is before the Federal Court in Sydney from 9.30am.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:20 am

  578. britain is a nation of 62 million complete and utter b*****ds.

    Tough but fair.

    Rabz

    17 Aug 12 at 11:39 am

  579. “Outwardly, we hated communist Russia; inwardly, it’s what 95 per cent of the country wants .
    “Bankers, Estate Agents, Politicians, Journalists. Anyone in a suit is basically evil and must, after they’ve been sacked, go to prison.
    “Anyone in a donkey jacket? They’re basically good and must have a plasma television immediately.”

    Clarkson is a funny bastard.

    He’s true about England being the perfect spot to try communism. Bill Bryson mentioned that in ‘Notes from a Small Island’ – the British proclivity to queue and grumble but ultimately conform would have made them the ideal communist state.

    You’ll never understand class hatred until you’ve spent time with some British people. It’s why all the rabid unionists were always bred in the UK.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 11:41 am

  580. Rabz

    17 Aug 12 at 11:42 am

  581. Actually Clarkson is reaching that point that many wealthy UK citizens eventually get to. They find that the incessant nanny state is suffocating, and when you’ve got the means to shift locations, all of a sudden it starts to look appealing.

    Just the travails he’s had with his property on the Isle of Man and trespassers on that is bad enough – and the Isle of Man is literally an island of freedom compared to the rest of the place.

    Even though he goes on about Americans and America, you can almost see the cogs turning in his head where a ranch in Texas or somewhere is starting to look mighty tempting. Somewhere where he can fire a few potshots at nosy parkers violating his families privacy, and smelly trampers claiming ‘right to roam’ could legitimately be shown the scary end of a shotgun and told to bugger off.

    I think it pains him because he’s such a patriotic Englishman, but there’s a lot of those who have expatriated themselves because the place has become a madhouse.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 11:54 am

  582. Christian Kerr on the nanny state, why it sucks and why the gliberals must grow a spine and destroy it.

    Andrew Robb says all the right things regarding personal liberty. I daren’t even hope to dream that he an the Libs may actually mean it.

    He cites the re-regulation of the labour market, the renationalisation of telecommunications under the NBN and the overnight shutting-down of the live cattle export trade by ministerial fiat, despite its implications for northern communities and relations with Indonesia.

    Robb points to the now-abandoned internet filtering plans, the original resources super-profits tax-‘the failed attempt to nationalise 40 per cent of the mining industry’-and the carbon tax, which he slams as ‘the highest taxing, most bureaucratic and interventionist model imaginable’, coming ‘at the worst possible time for industry and jobs’.

    Plus porous borders, thousands dead in our oceans and the most ugly attack on press freedom in this country, ever while protecting criminal union thugs.

    This list will be this governments legacy.

    twostix

    17 Aug 12 at 11:58 am

  583. @twostix – the problem with the coalition is identified in that article.

    While they dislike the nanny state ideals, they just love the revenue that it creates.

    Speeding fine + alcohol tax revenue brings in the tax dollars, and allows the Lib politicians to spend as they like.

    The ultimate problem is that all politicians try to buy rather than cut their way into office. And that’s because the voting public hasn’t worked out that handing over tax dollars to the government to waste is worse than wasting them yourself. They, by and large, are under the mistaken assumption that someone else is paying for all those ‘free’ goodies, when in reality half (or more) of the average persons income is going to tax.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 12:07 pm

  584. Sounds about right to me, particularly the part in bold:

    While Rep. Ryan gets credit for proposing solutions to the federal budget deficit — rather than just criticizing President Obama’s handling of the nation’s finances — he’s offering the wrong prescription for what ails America, according to Mark Dow, a former policy economist at the IMF and Treasury Department and author of the Behavioral Macro blog.

    “Just because rich guys will believe any economic theory that ends up in a tax cut doesn’t make it the right policy for the time — even if it will get you their vote,” he quips.

    In a nutshell, Dow says supply-side economics — the basis of Ryan’s budget proposals — will not work in today’s economy.

    According to Dow, supply side economics made sense in the 1980s when Ronald Reagan championed them, with the help of (among others) one of Ryan’s political mentors, Jack Kemp.

    At that time, America had better demographics: Baby Boomers entering their peak earning years, low financial leverage, and pent up demand after the stagnation of the 1970s, he recalls. Today we have the reverse of pent up demand — the household sector most notably is deleveraging — and a labor market weighed down by globalization.

    “If you’re counting on those policies that worked nicely in 1982 to come to save you…you’re going to be disappointed,” Dow says….

    To be clear, Dow is not saying President Obama has all the answers or deserves a second term. He’s also not saying that supply-side economics are always bad and Keynesian economics are always good; in fact, he’s saying the Republicans have become too wedded to supply-side economics as a panacea, just as Democrats became too wedded to Keynesian solutions after the Great Depression.

    Dow’s also saying that rigid ideology on both sides of the political aisle is a big part of the problem the country faces.

  585. Good to see Bolt remind people that the Old Lezzo was found to be a liar by the AFP in 2004. It goes without saying that the revolting yellow dog has never repeated his Anderson accusations outside of Parliament.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:15 pm

  586. @cl the thing that makes me happy is that both Windsor and Slipper seem to be under the delusion that contesting the next election is a good idea.

    It will be supreme entertainment to watch get an electoral belting. I just hope the channels despatch reporters to get their concession speeches, and I hope they are whiny ‘not my fault’ affairs like once-er whats-her-name that held Bennelong for a squeak over 2 years.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 12:19 pm

  587. Rabz, that link you put up, Christian Kerr on the nanny state, is a revolutionary document that should be essential reading for all. For me, it’s mainly about the Coalition’s muddle-headed incompetence in failing to grasp one of the biggest vote-winners in the Australian political landscape. However, as brc says, the Liberals and National are only marginally less obnoxious tax-and-spend socialists than Labor and the Greens. I yearn for a government that will put more money in my pocket by getting this infernal Labor-Greens spending binge under control and removing their totalitarian fingers from my neck. But it just won’t happen. The Libs are gutless wonders whose idealism disappears as soon as they get their fingers in the till.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 12:21 pm

  588. Sounds about right to me, particularly the part in bold:

    The Spectator describes author Aaron Task:

    left-leaning Aaron Task of Yahoo! Finance

    http://spectator.org/blog/2012/06/18/obama-administrations-socialis

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:22 pm

  589. The Spectator describes author Aaron Task:

    He’s just laying the ground work for the coming “a pox on both their houses”, “can’t we just get along”, “bipartisan healing is needed” post election defeat leftist panhandling.

    twostix

    17 Aug 12 at 12:27 pm

  590. CL, the subject is Dow’s opinions, not the person reporting them.

    Jarrah

    17 Aug 12 at 12:31 pm

  591. I just hope the channels despatch reporters to get their concession speeches, and I hope they are whiny ‘not my fault’ affairs like once-er whats-her-name that held Bennelong for a squeak over 2 years.

    The best one of these was Cheryl Kernot, who had a dummy spit when contesting for the ALP. She complained about lack of support, etc, etc… then as counting continued, it swung back her way (probably a newly “found” stack of ballots)… Awkward.

    Fleeced

    17 Aug 12 at 12:32 pm

  592. If they’re dispatching camera crews to all ALP and Independents concession speeches, the news companies are going to have to hire a swathe of new staff.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 12:33 pm

  593. CL, I thought it would be much more relevant to Google the background of the guy he’s quoting, Mark Dow.

  594. It’s amazing how ‘bi-partisanship’ is always discovered at the same time a losing policy is rejected by the public.

    “Aw, come on guys, it’s a really good idea, promise!”

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 12:36 pm

  595. If they’re dispatching camera crews to all ALP and Independents concession speeches, the news companies are going to have to hire a swathe of new staf

    I’d gladly fund a ‘concession speech levy’ if it meant nobody in the ALP is allowed to announce retirement between now and the next election, unless it is effective immediately.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 12:38 pm

  596. I have to say, an accusation that Ryan wants to go back to the 1980s is hilarious when he’s up against a man who, by his own admission, has taken US economic policy back to the 1930s.

    Conclusion: Ryan is 50 years more advanced than epic Keynesian failure, Obama – the worst economic president in American history.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:44 pm

  597. Democracy, Egyptian style.

    That there were attacks and violence—both in front of Egypt’s presidential palace and at major media facilities—is well-documented. An August 9 report by El Balad, a widely read Egyptian website, gives the details:

    Last Wednesday, August 8, “thousands of the Muslim Brotherhood’s supporters” attacked 6-October’s media facilities, beat Khaled Salah—chief editor of the privately-owned and secular Youm 7 newspaper—prevented Yusif al-Hassani, an On TV broadcaster, from entering the building, and generally “terrorized the employees.”

    El Balad adds that the supporters of Tawfik Okasha, another vocal critic of President Morsi—the one who widely disseminated the graphic video of a Muslim apostate being slaughtered to cries of “Allahu Akbar”—gathered around the presidential palace, only to be surrounded by Brotherhood supporters, who “attacked them with sticks, knives, and Molotov cocktails, crucifying some of them on trees, leading to the deaths of two and the wounding of dozens.”

    Far from condemning these terrorists, Al Azhar, Egypt’s most authoritative Islamic institution, has just issued a fatwa calling for more violence and suppression, saying that “fighting participants in anti-Muslim Brotherhood demonstrations planned for 24 August is a religious obligation.”

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/08/16/muslim-brotherhood-crucifies-opponents/

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 12:51 pm

  598. DRUDGE:

    He really cares:

    Author steps in to pay hospital bill for Obama’s brother.

    A few days ago I received a call from a man I recently met named George. He was a bit flustered, and soon informed me that his young son was sick with a chest condition. He pleaded with me to send him $1,000 to cover the medical bills. Since George was at the hospital I asked him to let me speak to a nurse, and she confirmed that George’s son was indeed ill. So I agreed to send George the money through Western Union. He was profusely grateful. But before I hung up I asked George, “Why are you coming to me?” He said, “I have no one else to ask.” Then he said something that astounded me, “Dinesh, you are like a brother to me.”

    Actually, George has a real life brother who just happens to be the president of the United States. (George Obama is the youngest of eight children sired by Barack Obama Sr.) George’s brother is a multimillionaire and the most powerful man in the world. Moreover, George’s brother has framed his re-election campaign around the “fair share” theme that we owe obligations to those who are less fortunate.

    One of Obama’s favorite phrases comes right out of the Bible: “We are our brother’s keeper.” Yet he has not contributed a penny to help his own brother. And evidently George does not believe, even in times of emergency, that he can turn to his brother in the White House for help.

    So much for spreading the wealth around.

    Lefty morality: charity and generosity are what the government does; not what I do.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 12:51 pm

  599. My God I hate this country and its leftist rulers and opinion makers. Let me count the ways:

    The sexual revolution has also altered marriage profoundly. Marriages fail more often than they used to. Parents – married and not – may live in different cities. Children are travelling more often unaccompanied between their parents’ separate homes. While they are in an airline’s custody, an airline is in the position of a de facto parent. It is quite right to take extraordinary measures to protect children entrusted to it. That is what parents would expect. Given the risk of negative publicity should something go wrong, the airlines’ policy is entirely understandable.

    It is clear – because the incident is still newsworthy – that men seated next to unaccompanied children may not like being asked to move and feel affronted by the request. Perhaps travellers once felt like that about security checks before boarding an aircraft. Most people are no more terrorists than they are paedophiles. These days no one takes offence or feels unjustly accused or victimised when taken aside to be patted down before boarding a plane. So it should be with rules that protect unaccompanied children: they are a disagreeable but minor aspect of modern life. We should shrug them off.

    Fuck off.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 12:54 pm

  600. This Mark Dow sounds like a very balanced commentator:

    We all know the next four years will be about fiscal issues. And the sense, increasingly, is the Democrats could be forced at gunpoint to compromise on entitlement spending. There are no indications, however, that the Tea Party Republicans would be willing to come off their ideological stance against raising revenue.

    So, if Obama were to get reelected, it is hard to imagine that the more ideological elements in the Republican party would suddenly have a change of heart and soften their current stance.

    We know as well that compromise, eventually, is the only way out. One of Romney’s strongest selling points to moderates has been that he would have a much better chance than would Obama of cracking the log-jam of the anti-tax right. Now, by bringing on board Ryan, Romney’s odds of dragging them into a compromise just went up a lot further.

    Ryan knows this group of house member well, he carries enormous credibility on fiscal matters with this group, and he knows where the political bodies are buried on all the hot-button issues. This political reason, for me, is the most compelling one for Romney to bring Ryan on board, even if I personally think the supply-side baggage and excessive faith in efficient markets that he brings with him are ill-suited for the problems we face and are about three decades past their sell-by date.

  601. It’s official!

    Obama will run with mentally unbalanced Biden.

    The Hill: White House says Obama will stick with Biden as running mate.

    I won’t believe it until I see them with raised hands in front of a standing ovation with the trashy Greek Columns in the background in North Carolina.

    As they say in football, the coach has the full backing of the board until the minute they are sacked…

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 1:10 pm

  602. This Mark Dow sounds like a very balanced commentator:

    Utter bollocks.

    He’s internally conflicted and inconsistent.

    That’s not “balanced” unless it suits characteristically unbalanced types like liar-steve™.

    Dow is an unrepentant Keynesian despite Reinhart and Rogoff’s now famous and exhaustive research, sunsequent book and articles

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 1:15 pm

  603. You really enjoy trolling don’t you Steve.

    This is an absolute statement which makes clear the intent of the author.

    There are no indications, however, that the Tea Party Republicans would be willing to come off their ideological stance against raising revenue.

    What makes me laugh is, like that piece you got JC to review last night, you don’t understand what you are posting.

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 1:19 pm

  604. I won’t believe it until I see them with raised hands in front of a standing ovation with the trashy Greek Columns in the background in North Carolina.

    He can’t let him go although he would like to. In any event it would be in Hillary’s interest to see the Kenyan lose as she may very well be the front runner in 16.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 1:21 pm

  605. He can’t let him go although he would like to. In any event it would be in Hillary’s interest to see the Kenyan lose as she may very well be the front runner in 16.

    I believe that. Obama can’t afford to ditch Biden.

    I was listening to a program Pat Caddell was on and he noted that Tom Donilon is positioning himself to be Sec of State in the next term as payback for taking the lead in the whatever it takes election strategy:

    Caddell indicates that Tom Donilon is a political pollster, as is Caddell, and is thus not qualified to hold the high position of National Security Advisor. “Tom Donilon is a political hack. He was also the guy working with Jim Johnson corrupting Fannie Mae. He is known in Washington as the ‘Leaker in Chief’”.

    Caddell is very angry with the Obama admin for the very serious National Security Leaks which are able to be traced to Donilon.

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 1:32 pm

  606. Pickeringpost “This account has been suspended.”

    Pickeringpost

    FMD.

    Rudiau

    17 Aug 12 at 1:36 pm

  607. It does look like Pickering’s web master is afraid of being sued.

    Look, I will say this. Pickering’s honey-badgering on this is warranted but there needs to be something in the way of documentary evidence and testimony or it’s all rather pointless. The childishly bite-sized essays seem designed to generate traffic as much as elucidate supposed events.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 1:42 pm

  608. Rudiau

    17 Aug 12 at 1:45 pm

  609. Joe Biden after several meetings with Obummer: “I know I am sometimes criticized for saying exactly what I mean. It’s not gonna change.”

    Thank you God.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 1:48 pm

  610. Pickering Facebook still working.

    No comment there about Pickeringpost

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 1:52 pm

  611. It’s still cached for the time being. Grab a copy now (.pdf or .html to preserve links) if you want – it won’t hang around forever.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pickeringpost.com/

    I haven’t been following that whole saga lately, but don’t automatically go all “OMG THEY GOT TO HIM!!!111!!!” – it could be something as simple as his having exceeded his bandwidth allocation or otherwise run afoul of the TOS of what looks like a fairly low-budget web-hosting site.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 1:54 pm

  612. Given Larry’s financial history, he may not have paid the bill.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 1:55 pm

  613. Nanuestalker

    17 Aug 12 at 1:56 pm

  614. Guess who?

    I am travelling in Asia but was delighted to read here that the legal carcinogen producers have lost their bid to show that the plain packaging legislation breaches the Australian constitution. It is big news even in the country I am currently visiting – Thailand – and is given lengthy treatment in both major English-language newspapers here. Moreover, the Australian government’s costs must be paid by the carcinogen producers themselves. There is also strong expression of support fort the Australian Government legislation from the WHO.

    Big tobacco and their paid lying supporters are against the ropes. I haven’t visited Thailand for a few years but was delighted to see that bars and restaurants here are now smoke free. That is a huge step foreword.

    jtfsoon

    17 Aug 12 at 1:57 pm

  615. To read the last saved version of any cached page/site just enter

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:your url without http or these square brackets]

    So for instance going from the homepage cache I just posted, to read today’s most recent post (the last cached version of it) you’d enter

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pickeringpost.com/article/is-our-prime-minister-a-crook-part-v/380

    in your browser bar.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm

  616. Suck shit Harry.

    You can still smoke in bars, restaurants etc in all of Thailand’s tourist areas.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 2:01 pm

  617. test

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 2:01 pm

  618. hmmmm. I just tried copy/paste a comment from larry here but spam filter got me, for some reason. Anyway, Spot, it was a comment at the end of larry’s part V column stating that hackers had attacked the site.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 2:02 pm

  619. Guess who?

    Who else.

    Amazing how cheaply he’s sold his soul to the lowest bid.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 2:06 pm

  620. If his posts were causing his host’s servers to be targeted by repeated DDOS attacks (which could affect their other paying customers) that might’ve given them cause to suspend his account. IDK.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 2:10 pm

  621. I just find it sad that you’re in a part of the world where you’re free to fire off guns and watch bloody kickboxing matches and you’re excited over … other people not being allowed to smoke.

    Just sad.

    jtfsoon

    17 Aug 12 at 2:14 pm

  622. JC
    He hasn’t sold his soul. He really believes in this stuff.

    jtfsoon

    17 Aug 12 at 2:16 pm

  623. We own him Jase. We own his mind. He’s in Thailand and still makes pointed indirect references to the Catters.

    The number of leftie minds the Cat owns is incredible. There could a research Phd in there somewhere.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 2:24 pm

  624. He hasn’t sold his soul. He really believes in this stuff.

    I’m sure he does. However I’ve also seen him groveling uncontrollably at leftie sites hoping he gets thrown a bone of recognition.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 2:27 pm

  625. Fleeced

    17 Aug 12 at 2:28 pm

  626. Look who just clawed out of his grave.

    Dan Rather: “One Of The Nastiest Campaigns In My Lifetime”

    Yea right Dan. Peddling any more dishonest dirt on Bush you were fired for?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/16/dan_rather_one_of_the_nastiest_campaigns_in_my_lifetime.html

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 2:33 pm

  627. Look, it is getting tough, it is getting dirty and it’s an act of desperation. I will throw an epithet into the game. These guys are losers, they are losers. They have run this country into the ground. They are desperate; they know they can’t win on the economy,” Romney surrogate John Sununu said to Juan Williams on “Hannity” tonight.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/16/john_sununu_vs_juan_williams_on_dirty_campaigning.html

    Sununu is really good. Worth listening to.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 2:50 pm

  628. Democrats’ Plan A: Ryan Too Conservative; Plan B: Not Conservative Enough!

    More than five days after Rep. Paul Ryan was announced as Gov. Mitt Romney’s running mate, it is clear that Democrats–and their mainstream media friends–are losing the race to define him. First, they tried to describe him as too conservative: his budget plans were too bold, his pro-life positions too strong. That failed–even in Florida. So now it’s on to Plan B: attempting to chip away at conservative enthusiasm for the Romney/Ryan ticket by digging for alleged past deviations from partisan orthodoxy–as they have done with Romney himself.

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 2:58 pm

  629. Nanuestalker

    17 Aug 12 at 3:14 pm

  630. Nanuestalker

    17 Aug 12 at 3:21 pm

  631. New fun twitter hashtag:

    #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting

    David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog

    @Doc_0 #OverheardAtBidenObamaClintonMeeting “I told you before, Joe – I don’t know how the sharpener knows the pencil is in it.”
    View conversation

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 3:22 pm

  632. JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 3:31 pm

  633. These guys are losers, they are losers. They have run this country into the ground.

    Remind you of anyone?

    Rabz

    17 Aug 12 at 3:54 pm

  634. lpickeringdotnet:

    pickeringpost.com has been consistently attacked via a DDoS for the past few days. We are now getting a “suspended” notice.

    Some of us don’t respond well to criticism…we are doing all we can to persist with free speech. Those who aren’t on the email list can go to lpickering.net (until they get at that site too)

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 4:00 pm

  635. And intrade keeps sliding lower for the Kenyan.

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 4:10 pm

  636. I suspect intrade is relevant only in the last month and will be then a useful guide to momentum.

    I don’t know why Sinc thinks it’s informative this far out.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 4:22 pm

  637. Sinc has a point, which is that betting markets are purer than polls simply because money is being risked.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 4:25 pm

  638. Gallop: Americans Continue to Give Obama Low Marks on the Economy

    Obama’s ratings on the economy are significantly worse than all three prior successful presidential incumbents at this same point in their first term, according to the available Gallup trends. His 36% approval rating on the economy is well below George W. Bush’s rating in August 2004 (46%), Bill Clinton’s in August 1996 (54%), and Ronald Reagan’s in July 1984 (50%). Still, in terms of comparisons to presidents who lost, Obama’s economic rating is substantially better than that of George H.W. Bush in July 1992 (18%). Gallup did not measure Americans’ approval of Jimmy Carter on the economy in 1980.

    Obama’s single worst rating of the seven issues measured in the current poll is for the federal budget deficit. However it is unclear how problematic this will be for him. His 30% approval rating on the deficit falls about halfway between Clinton’s in August 1996 (43%) and Reagan’s in July 1984 (23%).

    Gallup initiated the “creating jobs” approval rating in 2009, and thus has no readings on it for previous presidents. However, on the similar item of “unemployment,” Reagan earned a 48% approval rating in 1984, higher than Obama’s 37% for creating jobs.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 4:26 pm

  639. Sinc has a point, which is that betting markets are purer than polls simply because money is being risked.

    By extreme looms only this far out.

    So I beg to differ.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 4:27 pm

  640. Benched: Biden Sent Home To Delaware To Start Weekend Early…

    Biden’s retreat home during the increasingly frenetic 2012 race comes amid increased criticism for his campaign-trail performance.

    Biden was slated to share an uncomfortable lunch with President Barack Obama on Thursday, following his disastrous week on the campaign trail, which culminated with a racially inflammatory warning to African-American supporters that Mitt Romney will “put y’all back in chains.”

    The flubs revived chatter about whether the president will drop Biden, and seek a substitute vice president to win the tough 2012 race.

    Obama’s spokesman Jay Carney on Thursday provided a tepid defense of Biden when he was asked if the vice president would remain on the ticket.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 4:33 pm

  641. James, you’re right. The betting markets only reflect the commentary of the day and the current polls and are no more insightful than them.

    When the polls tighten even further, so will those percentages at Intrade.

    Alex Pundit

    17 Aug 12 at 4:49 pm

  642. Alex Pundit

    17 Aug 12 at 4:52 pm

  643. An IPCC Global Conference that Flannery, Wong, and Gizard may decline attending.
    October 24-26 2012. Only US$1600.
    However, Tony Windsor may be interested.
    (Them Indonesians have a sense of humour)

    Jumpnmcar

    17 Aug 12 at 5:00 pm

  644. Sinc has a point, which is that betting markets are purer than polls simply because money is being risked.

    Given that, there has to be a factor that all incumbents get for holding the office, etc. in case there is an October suprise.

    That gets discounted the closer you get to an election when the deadline hits for the people who actually change votes (i.e. the 5-10% that count).

    Pat Caddell has noted that in addition to leaking information that was high clearance they played with releasing information in 2010 which had a noted swing on the polls on election day [6:40]:

    Caddell said, “One of the things is in 2010, just before the election, Tom Donilon sat there and orchestrated the cartridge bomber incident as a public event when they had already solved it. It was to influence the election.

    Detailed interview here where Pat Caddell provides more details.

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 5:04 pm

  645. …That gets discounted the closer you get to an election when the deadline hits for the people who actually change votes (i.e. the 5-10% that count).

    It has been noted by Pat Caddell [who is a pollster with 40 years of experience working for the Democrats] that the guy responsible for the White House leaks – Tom Donilon – was involved in an October surprise in the 2010 congressional elections, and he notes polling suggested it had an effect on those polls.

    Pat Caddell has noted that in addition to leaking information…

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 5:07 pm

  646. Who says Harry Clarke posts about cigarettes so as to annoy Catallaxy?

  647. Anyone heard how the AFP investigation into who leaked the ” RuddSwearGate” video is going?
    It has been 3months so far.

    Jumpnmcar

    17 Aug 12 at 5:10 pm

  648. I haven’t visited Thailand for a few years but was delighted to see that bars and restaurants here are now smoke free.

    Harry is the Clark Griswold of tourism.

    He wants all the world to be culturally nice and white – just like him.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 5:19 pm

  649. James, you’re right. The betting markets only reflect the commentary of the day and the current polls and are no more insightful than them.

    The market for the 2012 election has been open since 2008, so it is only natural that a shit load more will have been wagered on B.O. It will close up the further we go.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 5:23 pm

  650. Pickering was crazy not to use Amazon cloud hosting for his website. No bandwidth caps, expand servers as traffic is required. Keep it on a short leash and just keep bumping it around between different servers as each one is taken out.

    The ddos attack will have it’s origins within some Australian university, that is for sure. At this point he should just start cloning the site under pickeringpost1, pickeringpost2, pickeringpost3 etc.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 5:25 pm

  651. Oh good – we might have an “Arse-gate” on our hands:

    Outspoken independent MP Tony Windsor has hinted that he could in future release phone messages to back up his claims that Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s begged to be prime minister after the 2010 election.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/windsor-dials-up-abbott-tension-20120817-24csm.html#ixzz23mos8TKv

  652. I still think Pickering’s ‘here’s Part IV, come back soon for Part V’ thing is getting lame. Some of the scandal stanzas are about seven or eight pars. Put up in toto or shut up. I lament to say that I must agree with Steve on one point: either he posts, say, an incriminating document signed by Gillard – and leaked by an old cleaner from Slater & Gordon – or I’m not sure what the point of the exercise is.

    And when you say you’re going to post something soon that will bring down the government, you’d better deliver. Last time I looked, it hadn’t been brought down.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 5:32 pm

  653. It will close up the further we go.

    What JC’s comment and link shows is that after Ryan the odds have closed very significantly.

    Right now the momentum is with Romney/Ryan.

    The leftists are in a closed world of a mass of Obamaa campaign twitter tweets.

    They still think Ryan is a liability for Romney.

    Only the smarter Dems are seeing the trap.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 5:36 pm

  654. Outspoken independent MP Tony Windsor has hinted that he could in future release phone messages to back up his claims that Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s begged to be prime minister after the 2010 election.

    No he won’t because if he had them he already would have used them. He’s a pathological liar – and was found to be so by the Australian Federal Police.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 5:36 pm

  655. And when you say you’re going to post something soon that will bring down the government, you’d better deliver. Last time I looked, it hadn’t been brought down.

    He’s waiting for an FOI response from “the coppers”.

    He’s stuck and frustrated as the radio interview with Hinch and a later note on his blog attests

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 5:38 pm

  656. Oh good – we might have an “Arse-gate” on our hands:

    We already do and his name is Windsor.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 5:39 pm

  657. @cl at the very least we should be told how many parts there are. Is part 6 the coup de gras, or do we have to get to part 10.

    I don’t mind the instalment format but they are getting a bit short, and they aren’t coming out daily anymore.

    I suspect on the evidence part – it’s either overblown (ie evidence, but not stand-up-court evidence) or he is trying to get someone else to leak it to increase it’s impact.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 5:42 pm

  658. Oh good – we might have an “Arse-gate” on our hands

    Really Steve, you are that excited you used “that” cliche?

    Token

    17 Aug 12 at 5:43 pm

  659. Outspoken independent MP Tony Windsor has hinted that he could in future release phone messages to back up his claims that Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s begged to be prime minister after the 2010 election.

    Just like his so-called ‘death threats’ I suspect. They were also ‘voice mail’. I just don’t buy Tony Abbott leaving that sort of thing on voicemail. Maybe ‘I really want this Tony’ but not ‘I’ll do anything but sell my arse’ or whatever it was.

    Even if he did – in comparison to the Rudd swearing video I don’t think it would have much of an impact. You’d need a real game-changer to collapse the Abbott vote now – most people are locked in.

    Increasingly I think Tony Windsors head is a bit like that Simpsons sketch where Homer has a dancing hula version of himself in place of actual thought processes. He doesn’t come across as particularly rational or clear-headed to me.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 5:45 pm

  660. Token, if it’s to do with actual recordings of politicians saying things the public was not meant to hear, then “-gate” is allowable in my books.

  661. Outspoken independent MP Tony Windsor has hinted that he could in future release phone messages to back up his claims

    Go ahead.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 5:50 pm

  662. It might do harm if Abbott hinted that even carbon pricing on the table, but I would be surprised if this were the case.

    But I would also like to hear Abbott refer to arse-selling.

  663. Tony wouldn’t sell his arse, so Windsor instead chose a woman who has turned out to be one of the biggest bums in history.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 5:55 pm

  664. I’be surprised if Windsor had anything at all. He’s shown himself to be nothing but an utter bullshit artists over the last few years.

    tbh

    17 Aug 12 at 5:57 pm

  665. Windsor is really a evil little fuck.

    I’m amazed how no lib hasn’t smacked him one.

    Just look at that expression of the evil fuck’s face.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 6:08 pm

  666. I just Googled “arse selling” to see what would show up, and after several links to Abbott/Windsor stories, there’s this: “I Sell Butt Plugs To Strangers”.

    (It’s a tame article about someone who works in an Amsterdam erotic shop.)

    Funny old world…

  667. “Outspoken independent MP Tony Windsor has hinted that he could in future release phone messages to back up his claims ”

    there’s something really unfair play, un-Australian, about releasing details of private phone conversations to the media to try discredit someone. it would scare the bejesus out of people about doing business on the phone.

    is it legal to do so?

    candy

    17 Aug 12 at 6:08 pm

  668. I’m amazed how no lib hasn’t smacked him one.

    You can’t hit women JC. Even if they are balding old rug munching bull dykes.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 6:10 pm

  669. Outspoken independent MP Tony Windsor has hinted that he could in future release phone messages to back up his claims that Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s begged to be prime minister after the 2010 election.

    I’m sure Abbott sold him heavily in supporting the coalition. What a big surprise Tony.

    Of course he wouldn’t release the conversations with the lying slapper and Swan.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 6:13 pm

  670. There’s something really unfair play, un-Australian, about releasing details of private phone conversations to the media to try discredit someone.

    In a political setting where nothing illegal was going on it would be, especially in that setting where I’m sure Abbot was being selling heavily.

    Windsor is serious lowlife.

    it would scare the bejesus out of people about doing business on the phone.

    I’m sure Abbott was very careful with what he was saying.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm

  671. Courier Mail:

    Tony Abbott’s lesbian sister can’t change his mind on same sex marriage.

    Usually, ‘gay’ is used in these stories.

    But they really wanted to get that up front, don’t they?

    Tony Abbott’s LESBIAN SISTER.

    Why not “lesbian Penny Wong said…” or lesbian Tony Windor claimed…”?

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 6:26 pm

  672. Sure mr Windsor, full and complete records pleas. And the same for all your conversations with Gillard. They would be interesting.

    Entropy

    17 Aug 12 at 6:28 pm

  673. God CL you are soooo hetronormative( is that spelt correctly?)

    Tal

    17 Aug 12 at 6:30 pm

  674. Tony Abbott’s lesbian sister can’t change his mind on same sex marriage.

    It’s almost like he bases his policy on principles or something.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 6:33 pm

  675. Having lesbian relatives seems to come up a lot amongst conservative figures – Pell, Abbott, Cheney, Sony Bono. Surely CL has got one hidden away.

    (Can’t say that I do. In fact, I’ve got 14 nieces and nephews, most with kids of their own, God knows how many cousins, maybe 10 uncles and aunts still alive, and as far as I know not a gay or lesbian person amongst them. I think my sister’s husband’s sister might have a lesbian daughter, or something. Other families must make up for this.)

  676. Steve, I hate to break this to you: You are your families weird lesbian relative.

    Infidel Tiger

    17 Aug 12 at 6:47 pm

  677. We don’t care about your lineage, ShitFerBrains.
    Go away.
    Adults are conversing…

    Winston Smith

    17 Aug 12 at 6:48 pm

  678. Very funny, IT. If only Gab would let me email her that long promised photo, I could disprove that.

  679. Actually, no one was talking, Boltard.

  680. No hablo ingles.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 6:53 pm

  681. Having lesbian relatives seems to come up a lot amongst conservative figures …

    No, it’s brought up by lefty journalists.

    The other day you were saying your fellow lefty enemies of America have historically always been preponderantly homosexual.

    Make up your mind.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 7:26 pm

  682. In any event she’s comes across as top class in that piece. Abbott seems to have a nice sis.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 7:36 pm

  683. It’s funny how men of a certain age and disposition envy Windsor.

    Women of all ages seem to adore him.

    You’re not really a woman febbie.

    You know that simple biological fact, right?

    How’s the reno delight fibro in ‘ol lezzo country?

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 7:50 pm

  684. @jc it’s probably because Abbott’s family wasn’t a cesspit of hate, envy, moaning and class-war rhetoric.

    Instead it had Mum, Dad, the kids and a message of hard work and self reliance.

    It’s really not that hard to turn out decent, honest citizens instead of lying communist spawn.

    brc

    17 Aug 12 at 7:54 pm

  685. I actually like Windsor – he did tell the story that tony Abbott would do anything – repeat anbything – except sell his arse to get the prime ministership.

    well yes. Id say he would do anything – except that but he has sold the front view a hundred times over. Maybe he should give everyone a few more pics of his arse.

    Seriouslyu if anyone here really thinks Tony Abbot is better than Julia Gillard you are on something because both parties dont give a fig about anything but power.

    Neither is better than the other and now that the media in this country is so utterly devased and such utter crap it would alsmot take Tony Abbot to sell a few pics of his arse to get the job.

    Alice

    17 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm

  686. OK, this is beyond the God-damned pale.

    What. The. FUCK.

    Having lesbian relatives seems to come up a lot amongst conservative figures – Pell, Abbott, Cheney, Sony Bono. Surely CL has got one hidden away.

    (Can’t say that I do. In fact, I’ve got 14 nieces and nephews, most with kids of their own, God knows how many cousins, maybe 10 uncles and aunts still alive, and as far as I know not a gay or lesbian person amongst them. I think my sister’s husband’s sister might have a lesbian daughter, or something. Other families must make up for this.)

    What is it with bigoted leftards?

    Seriously. We’ve got Monty thinking that describing someone as gay is a slur, and now another left-wing bigot is doing it.

    Huh? What’s that got to do with anything?

    Shitfer goes so far as to proudly boast that all of his relatives are straight. Oh nosiree, no filthy queers in shitfer’s family! Then he sniggers that ‘oooh, maybe CL’s family’s got some filthy queers in it.’

    Well, you vile and bigoted moron, I DO have several homosexual relatives. And guess what?

    No-one in my large extended family gives two hoots. They are family, and nothing else matters. Their partners are also family, just like any mf couple is.

    Like I do not give two hoots about Abbotts sister, but to you it denigrates Abbott!

    You really are a shitty little excuse for a human being.

    You see, you loathesome creep, my family judges a person by the content of their character, not by the colour of their skin of by who they choose to sleep with. Yeah, got some dark-skinned people in the family too, Shitfer. And my wife’s part-islander. I suppose you think that’s even worse than having queers in the family.

    You bloody stinking bigot. Wake up to yourself.

    Mk50 of Brisbane

    17 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm

  687. The Abbotts speak their mind and you know who they are, judging by that article, there’s no pretence.

    candy

    17 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm

  688. Tony wouldn’t sell his arse

    Is that what Winsor’s asking price was? Sounds like he is miffed Abbott turned him down.

    Splatacrobat

    17 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm

  689. “Maybe he should give everyone a few more pics of his arse.”

    Now there’s a sensible Alice, well said, missie.

    candy

    17 Aug 12 at 8:04 pm

  690. It always makes me laugh how the left try to portray AbbottAbbottAbbott as being sexist. How would he ever get away with it all the strong women in his life?

    Nanuestalker

    17 Aug 12 at 8:05 pm

  691. the media in this country is so utterly devased

    And gervased, pervased, despised, solipsised, and … yes, debased.

    blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 8:09 pm

  692. JC Windsor is no more serious a low life than the low nlifes in both parties. Grech has apparently come out of the asylum long enough to say he still hates Malcolm Turnbull and is still madly in love with Lazarus rising (whatever ego trip Howard got that made him name his book that is not at all surprising) and that all public servants like himself should be sacked every time government changes – it should have been named “the doormouse that roared” or “Leave it to Beaver”

    The wisdon of the self promoted Grech is truly midboggling – I think it noggled his own mind.

    Alice

    17 Aug 12 at 8:10 pm

  693. Febro has a hula dancer in his head now, permanently.

    blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 8:10 pm

  694. Do we now have to live next door to Alice for the next 24 years?

    blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 8:12 pm

  695. Having lesbian relatives seems to come up a lot amongst conservative figures …

    Having peodophiles and rapists seems to come up a lot amongst leftist figures …
    Milton Orkopoulos
    Keith Wright
    Bill D’Arcy
    Terry Martin

    Splatacrobat

    17 Aug 12 at 8:15 pm

  696. Well Candy – and I shouldnt say this but politics is increasingly a show isnt it (given the media is so well – photo obsessed)

    Even I admit Tony Abbott might score a few more points on a some timely pics of his arse than Julia giving us the rear view….

    small is better or so they say?

    But hang on – the media is so debased this is the way we are all heading when it comes down to a rear view competition. I say its time old Rupert went to heaven, Gina (given she has media aspirations) went to Jenny Craig, and James Packer got out of the god damn casino and saved the mess its in.

    Alice

    17 Aug 12 at 8:16 pm

  697. Get used to it Blogstrop. Im now going out to party so you can have a rest or go to bed early.

    Alice

    17 Aug 12 at 8:21 pm

  698. Parties are for airheads, Alice.

    blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 8:29 pm

  699. Yes, Mk50, we’ve heard about your gay friendly attitudes before. You’re quite the normal sensitive new age dude for whom sexuality is not important. Except, of course when it’s a Left/Green gay guy you’re talking about, then you regale us with their (alleged) sexual practices as if they are a matter of intense interest and ridicule, to such grotesque extent that even Sinclair sees fit to delete them.

    You’re just weird.

  700. “ven I admit Tony Abbott might score a few more points on a some timely pics of his arse than Julia giving us the rear view….”

    so true, Alice. have a nice time tonite.

    candy

    17 Aug 12 at 8:30 pm

  701. Aloha, febro.

    blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 8:30 pm

  702. Candy’s with Alice.

    blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 8:32 pm

  703. Get used to it, Fungus. Abbott is going to be your ruler for the foreseeable future. And you’ll be back in the whingeing opposition ghetto for the foreseeable future. You’re lucky we’ll allow you to keep the vote, you slimey piece of shit. Are you going to be in the convoy of zombie hate marching on Canberra? You know, the compulsory leftist rally where you trash all the public buildings? You’ll be able to enjoy being in the mosted hated group in Australia: the thieves of the middle class’s wealth who’ll be out of power until the middle of the century at the earliest.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 8:33 pm

  704. Wikipedia list of political controversies.

    I think the Cat can do better than this. Feel free to add your disaster:
    Boat Arrivals 2008- present
    NBN
    Carbon Tax
    AWU Gillard

    Splatacrobat

    17 Aug 12 at 8:35 pm

  705. Lol

    Good rant Tom.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 8:37 pm

  706. Definite characteristics of your mate Les in this latest troll, JC. I’d love to see how he’s constructed his new email address.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 8:42 pm

  707. Bringing up relos is a stock-standard old lefty classic. The thinking used to be that if they mentioned that Dick Cheney’s daughter was a lesbian, the Christian Republicans would abandon the GOP and vote for… the party of Barney Fwank.

    It makes no sense, of course (they’re lefties), but these are the people who got owned by George W. Bush twice in Texas and twice nationally.

    As far as hypocrisy and embarrassment go, however, it’s hard to top Mr Obamacare himself neglecting to pay the $1000 medical bill of his improverished brother.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 8:43 pm

  708. The middle class is socialist to a great extent.

    sdfc

    17 Aug 12 at 8:44 pm

  709. The middle class is socialist to a great extent.

    It’s easy to get a warped idea of what the world is really like when you don’t work in the real economy.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 8:52 pm

  710. I wonder if my riposte to the weirdo Mk50 will ever appear.

  711. “The middle class is socialist to a great extent.”

    I’m lower middle class and completely conservative, have a heart guys, we’re not all socialists down here!

    candy

    17 Aug 12 at 9:02 pm

  712. Tom, I’ve got my pipe loaded and pencil at the ready. I’m finding you resistant to therapy. Would you prefer a Freudian or Jungian approach?

  713. ‘Weird’ to point out blatant homophobia and arrant bigotry on your part is it, shitfer?

    You think it’s ‘weird’ to despise bigots like you?

    Riiiight.

    Mk50 of Brisbane

    17 Aug 12 at 9:08 pm

  714. Whaddya reckon, Marko? Should we start taking an interest in where ShitFer lives in the same way ShitFer has been trying to creep out CL among others?

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 9:16 pm

  715. NYT: Despite Alarm by U.S., Europe Lets Hezbollah Operate Openly

    BERLIN — As American officials sound the alarm over what they call a resurgent threat from the Shiite militant group Hezbollah, thousands of its members and supporters operate with few restrictions in Europe, raising money that is funneled to the group’s leadership in Lebanon.

    Washington and Jerusalem insist that Hezbollah is an Iranian-backed terrorist organization with bloody hands, and that it is working closely with Tehran to train, arm and finance the Syrian military’s lethal repression of the uprising there. Yet, the European Union continues to treat it foremost as a Lebanese political and social movement

    This appeasement means Europe is already lost.

    How many of them actually realise they’re in a death spiral from which the can’t recover even if there was the will?

    Leftists’ existential will is death.

    If I ever think like liar I’d want to die too.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 9:18 pm

  716. I don’t know what happened to my comment, Mk50 – but let me re-phrase it: you have made the vilest ridiculing comments about gay men on this blog: all because they were Left/Green gay men. They were deleted, I believe, as being completely irrelevant and (frankly) quite grotesque.

    Your proclamations of being a sensitive new age dude for gay is hypocritical in the extreme.

    And besides which – it’s simply true that I have no connection at all in my (very large) extended family with anyone who has been in a open gay relationship. I don’t why that is; it certainly has always made me doubt the claimed extent of the gay population (which we do indeed now know has been much exaggerated for identity political purposes.)

    That you take that as a generic slur on the gay is just weird, especially given the vile use to which you have put use of discussions of gay sexuality before.

  717. How Did Harry Reid Get So Rich?

    He lives at the Ritz Carlton.

    He’s only ever been a politician.

    Is he with Warren Buffet the world’s best investor?

    How Did Harry Reid Get Rich?
    His career in public service has ended up being remarkably lucrative.

    Try this thought experiment. Imagine that someone grows up in poverty, works his way through law school by holding the night shift as a Capitol Hill policeman, and spends all but two years of his career as a public servant. Now imagine that this person’s current salary — and he’s at the top of his game — is $193,400. You probably wouldn’t expect him to have millions in stocks, bonds, and real estate.

    But, surprise, he does, if he’s our Senate majority leader, whose net worth is between 3 and 10 million dollars, according to OpenSecrets.org.

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 9:23 pm

  718. I am pretty angry right now, so as tempting as it might seem right now… no, I do not think so Tom. I don’t think I want to lower myself to Shitfer’s level and swim down there in the sewers he inhabits.

    Besides, probably easy to spot the sod. He’ll be the one at the next antisemitic nazi-fest outside the Max Brenner chocolate shop at South bank with the sign that reads ‘Allah hates Fags just as much as he hates Jooooooooos’.

    It’d be his style. When a leftard has one bigotry, he has them all.

    Mk50 of Brisbane

    17 Aug 12 at 9:24 pm

  719. By the way, Mk50, it must be having so many gay relatives that makes you write and sound like a gay drama queen.

  720. You causing trouble and annoying people again, SFB?

    Tell me, what is the purpose of your visit here tonight?

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm

  721. He’s looking to replace that question mark with a hula dancer.

    Blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 9:39 pm

  722. SBS are repeating “Children of the Master Race”. It’s very good. I saw it last year, and it becomes quite moving.

  723. Amid the welter of anti-Romney-Ryan stories in the Friday edition of the New York Times, this one about their readiness for office sat me up:

    The meeting on Tuesday, however, reflected the fact that less than three months from Election Day, the Romney campaign is putting together a framework should he win the White House.

    “The transition group is more of a table setter, a drafter of an agenda, an outliner of what you need to do,” said a Romney adviser, insisting on anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic. “They will be asking, ‘What are the things you can do right away? What are the things you can think about? What can this president still do between Nov. 6 and Jan. 20?’ ”

    Mr. Romney’s campaign is wary about discussing transition plans, worried that it might appear overconfident. Four years ago, Senator John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, attacked Senator Barack Obama for “measuring the drapes.”

    Privately, however, Romney advisers say that not arranging for the future would be irresponsible, and that their goal is to be prepared but not presumptuous. They also say they are operating in accordance with the Pre-Election Presidential Transition Act of 2010, which urges campaigns to plan well before Election Day.

    And there’s evidence Obama is on the nose with Democrats in New York:

    Jeffrey M. Stonecash, a professor of political science at Syracuse University, said some Democrats in upstate districts that have a history of electing Republicans “don’t want anything to do with Obama” as November approaches.

    “An opponent would use their presence there to point out to everybody that they’re schmoozing with Obama while jobs are not growing in New York,” Professor Stonecash said. “Why risk that? What’s the gain there?”

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 9:45 pm

  724. Shitfer never gives up, does he?

    he just loves ‘Children of the Master Race’

    Children of the Master Race looks at the Nazis’ secret breeding programme called Lebensborn, and how the surviving children have lived their lives in the knowledge that they were bred to rule the world.

    Why am I not surprised that he loves this idea? Lefties – they love eugenics.

    Mk50 of Brisbane

    17 Aug 12 at 9:46 pm

  725. Watch the SBS hula … You are getting sleepy …

    Blogstrop

    17 Aug 12 at 9:48 pm

  726. I think watching Nazi porn is the only way a leftard beta can get an erection in the dying days of their shortlived Australian reign.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 9:58 pm

  727. Smart cat, dumb dog.

    Tweety Pie says “I taut I taw a putty tat. I diiid! I diiid!” The look on kitty’s face towards the end is hilarious.

    Next time you’re out in bear country, be sure to have a cat on hand for protection. Sic ‘em, Felix!

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 10:03 pm

  728. Having lesbian relatives seems to come up a lot amongst conservative figures.

    Opinion Dominion:

    Australian based, conservative leaning commentary on politics, media, life, the multiverse and whatever else crosses my mind. Home of the best widely-ignored opinions on the ‘net.

    Every now and then Steve’s absurdist Hi-Alanist claim to being a lifelong conservative ‘Catholic’ and war veteran comes apart subtly at the seams.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:23 pm

  729. BREAKING: SfB still attracted to Nazis; still repulsed by blacks & gays.

    Next?

    Moar dog videos, pleez.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 10:29 pm

  730. The Kenyan makes sure he’s focused on the things that matter to the punters.

    From Drudge headline:

    GIVE ME THOSE TAX RETURNS!

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 10:30 pm

  731. Almost 114,000,000 views, Spot.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 10:34 pm

  732. Hey, speaking of our political leaders’ families

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:34 pm

  733. “The maple kind?” Oh now I need bacon.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 10:38 pm

  734. The lebensbom are still with us now known as the youth climate coalition.

    Pickles

    17 Aug 12 at 10:40 pm

  735. Now here’s Something you don’t see every day.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 10:41 pm

  736. God, I didn’t know this… FM. He potentially has his finger on the nuclear trigger:

    Professor Jacobson questions Joe Biden’s cerebral health:

    Joe Biden’s behavior is becoming more and more questionable. Hardly a day passes in which Biden doesn’t say something really strange.

    The put “y’all back in chains” comment, saying he was in North Carolina when he actually was in Virginia, and forgetting which century we are in, are just the latest…

    Just this week, Biden opened a speech referencing his prior aneurysms.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:43 pm

  737. Romney-Ryan Raise $10 Million Online Since Veep Announcement

    Some figures:

    Online Fundraising
    Donations: 124,800+
    Amount: $10,157,947
    Average Donation: $81
    % New Donors: 68%

    Mitt Romney Social
    Facebook: +510,000 — Now 4,360,000
    Twitter: +54,000 — Now 861,000

    Paul Ryan Social
    Facebook: +860,000
    Twitter: +118,500

    Volunteers
    45,000+ sign up to volunteer online

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 10:47 pm

  738. interesting read at Cato

    Professor Schaler notes that mental illness differs in several important ways from physical illness, and these ways make a mockery of conventional diagnosis. Nonetheless mental illness plays an important role in our legal system; it permits psychiatrists to exercise a significant degree of coercion. Schaler challenges this arrangement and argues that those whom we may classify as mentally ill are still deserving of their liberties, including the liberty to refuse treatment. Schaler also questions whether “insanity” is an appropriate legal fiction at all.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 10:50 pm

  739. sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 10:52 pm

  740. Tean Obama caught doctoring Romney interview and then proceed to tweet about it as if it was the truth.

    Via PJMedia

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 10:52 pm

  741. Team…not Tean,

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 10:52 pm

  742. Biden ordered home.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:56 pm

  743. Laser spider was lame. :x

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 10:59 pm

  744. That’s probably ’cause one of his legs was broken, CL :lol:

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:03 pm

  745. Look, you are carrying on far too much about Biden. I thought that precedent indicated that the very role of Vice President is to be dumb, vain, inexperienced or evil (or some combination thereof) such that it is a real worry that he should ever become President.

    I mean, seriously, how far back do you have to go to say “now there’s a VP I’d be comfortable seeing as President.”

    If Ryan starts to look too competent, he’ll be upsetting the natural order of things.

    By the way, does he know anything at all about foreign policy?

  746. PING PONG BABY would kick laser spider’s ASS!

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 11:06 pm

  747. Yes I knew that was your angle.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:08 pm

  748. By the way, does he know anything at all about foreign policy?

    Ya know, Bush 1 ran as the foreign policy president and lost. You know why, because outside of islamic crazies and how to best kill them, americans don’t give a flying shit about da foreign policy.

    I’m sure Ryan has views in Israel which I’m also sure are identical to Romney’s views. That’s all you really need to care about… that and killing Islamic crazies.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 11:08 pm

  749. Foreign policy?… Lol What do you think this is, fucking France?

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 11:10 pm

  750. You’re thinking of foreign affairs, JC, not foreign policy.

  751. Just another regular day in Islam. Move along people, nothing’s happening.

    Iran: Israel’s existence ‘insult to all humanity’…

    Saudi Cleric: Jews consume blood of children… …

    Another Afghan police attack kills 2 US soldiers…

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm

  752. Home of the best widely-ignored opinions on the ‘net.

    Hahahahahaha!!!

    Irrelevance is calling, ShitFer. They need you at home.

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 11:15 pm

  753. Is Joe Biden just a great Vice-President? Or is he the Greatest Vice-President Ever!?

    A new ad from American Crossroads tries to answer that question …

    http://minx.cc/?post=332005

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:19 pm

  754. By the way, does he know anything at all about foreign policy?

    WSJ Brett Stephens: Paul Ryan’s Neocon Manifesto
    America’s real interests, he understands, come from our deepest values.

    Last summer, the chairman of the House Budget Committee made a foray into foreign-policy land with a speech to the Alexander Hamilton Society in Washington, D.C. About 100 people showed up, and it got next to no coverage. That should now change—and not just because Paul Ryan’s views on America’s role in the world are no longer a matter of one Wisconsin congressman talking.

    Here, in CliffsNotes form, is what the speech tells us about Mr. Ryan. First, that he’s an internationalist of the old school; in another day, he would have sat comfortably in the cabinets of Harry Truman, Jack Kennedy or Ronald Reagan. Also, that he believes in free trade, a strong defense, engagement with our allies—and expectations of them. Also, that he wants America to stay and win in Afghanistan. Furthermore, that he supports the “arduous task of building free societies,” even as he harbored early doubts the Arab Spring was the vehicle for building free societies.

    It tells us also that Mr. Ryan has an astute understanding of the fundamental challenge of China. “The key question for American policy makers,” he said, “is whether we are competing with China for leadership of the international system or against them over the fundamental nature of that system.”

    What Mr. Ryan’s speech really tells us, however, is that he knows how to think.

    Unlike liar-steve™

    JamesK

    17 Aug 12 at 11:19 pm

  755. You know what the most fascinating job in the world would be right now: military and intelligence staff planning the best way to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities. I’m guessing that it would have to be a really unique form of operation, using tactics and possibly weaponry in a way never seen before. The suggestion seems to be that it can’t simply be done by airstrikes, but how you would get adequate people on the ground to close down permanently underground facilities with some vague hope of getting them out again must be tricky.

    Or, of course, I could be wrong.

  756. If Ryan starts to look too competent

    He already looks competent.

    By the way, does he know anything at all about foreign policy?

    He knows more than Obama did in 2007.

    dover_beach

    17 Aug 12 at 11:23 pm

  757. I thought Tom has been anesthetized by his 20th beer today, but the angry old man pills are still working.
    JamesK meanwhile has yet another attack of “Liar!” Disease. Get the scan, man, don’t delay.

  758. sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:26 pm

  759. And SfB is still entranced by Nazis; frightened by blacks & gays.

    Plus ça change…

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:28 pm

  760. Professor Schaler notes that mental illness differs in several important ways from physical illness, and these ways make a mockery of conventional diagnosis. Nonetheless mental illness plays an important role in our legal system; it permits psychiatrists to exercise a significant degree of coercion. Schaler challenges this arrangement and argues that those whom we may classify as mentally ill are still deserving of their liberties, including the liberty to refuse treatment. Schaler also questions whether “insanity” is an appropriate legal fiction at all.

    Old news JC, psychiatry is a mess and that is not because psychiatrists are silly. There is a perfectly logical reason why it is almost if not impossible to adequately create a “check list” to determine mental illness. The nutshell is this(I’ve elaborated on this somewhere in my blog): given we can’t even define normalcy why the hell do we think we can clearly define insanity?

    Nonetheless we need the labels. As problematic as these labels are they serve an invaluable purpose. Anyone who questions the reality of insanity is need of therapy. It happens, the fact that we cannot accurately label it does not change that fact.

    The coercion thing is a different matter. Without going down the Szasz-Laing road of unending bulldust, there is something to the argument that modern psychiatry and psychology are very much about making round people fit in the squares holes of modern society. This is inevitable, any culture will have its freaks of varying sorts. I’m one of ém. I don’t belong here, this world is fucking nuts.

    Dead Soul

    17 Aug 12 at 11:32 pm

  761. I don’t understand this focus on Romney’s taxes. Isn’t the IRS, like, really strict? Wouldn’t they have audited Romney well before now? What gives?

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:33 pm

  762. Sdog: I think your guns are waiting for their nightly oil massage. What? You don’t have any in Australia? You’d better get on Skype and talk to the ones you left behind.

  763. Or, of course, I could be wrong.

    Oh come come, Steve.

    Not with your military experience.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 11:35 pm

  764. Gab

    they want the returns in order to paint him as a low tax paying fat cat and possible pour over them and accuse Romney of tax evasion. It’s the Kenyan’s operating method. He managed to have divorce papers of his Demolitionist opponent unsealed so he could accuse him of domestic violence which turned out to be untrue.

    The fucker is a snake in the Chicago mold.

    JC

    17 Aug 12 at 11:36 pm

  765. accuse Romney of tax evasion.

    But that’s what I don’t comprehend. Wouldn’t the IRS be the ones to determine if Romney had done this? Sorry, I’m not meaning to be obtuse.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:39 pm

  766. That Ace-linked piece by Jonah Goldberg is hilarious.

    Biden’s intellectual insecurity can be found in his relentless (mis)use of brainy quotations from Internet sites. His speeches are often a rhetorical version of The Love Boat with special guest appearances from Aristotle, Milton, Yeats, Plato, and various unnamed poets who, we are nonetheless assured, are famous. As Meghan Clyne documented in The Weekly Standard, he often misses the point of the lines he delivers, as when in a nod to Milton he called soldiers slain on the battlefield “fallen angels” — which, strictly speaking, would suggest that the U.S. military is in open rebellion against God. Sometimes he just doesn’t quite get his audience, as when he dropped a truth-bomb from G. K. Chesterton: “It’s not that Christianity has been tried and found wanting; it’s been found difficult and left untried.” He was speaking to AIPAC, the Jewish pro-Israel lobby. He also has been caught repeatedly using a fake quote from Virgil. But that’s forgivable. We’ve all been burned that way at some point. As Thomas Jefferson famously said, “Some quotes on the Internet are not reliable.”

    RTWT.

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 11:39 pm

  767. CL, we all know your military interest and experience mainly comprises the Angus Houston dartboard you keep in your bedroom. You should be the last person to deride anyone’s actual military involvement, no matter how modest.

  768. SFB, you appear to fantasize about CL’s bedroom and what’s in it quite a lot. It’s disturbing, you know that, right?

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:43 pm

  769. actual military involvement, no matter how modest.

    Hahahahaha!!! The army kitchen spud-peeler fights back!

    Tom

    17 Aug 12 at 11:44 pm

  770. Low marks for originality for both of you.

  771. SFB, you appear to fantasize about CL’s bedroom and what’s in it quite a lot. It’s disturbing, you know that, right?

    Quite so.

    I can’t help but wonder what Mrs Steve thinks of that-all.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:46 pm

  772. “The maple kind?” Oh now I need bacon.

    Is this some American thing? Like how they ruin good breakfast food by putting maple syrup on it?

    Fleeced

    17 Aug 12 at 11:46 pm

  773. Y’all gotta read that Goldberg piece. It’s very funny:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/298785/big-ing-joker-jonah-goldberg?pg=1

    C.L.

    17 Aug 12 at 11:46 pm

  774. And SfB is still entranced by Nazis; frightened by blacks & gays.

    Plus ça change…

    Oh, and guns too.

    And Southerners.

    And people with more formal education than him, and with less formal education than him. And those with more money than him, and with less money than him. Also, Catholics.

    Jeebus H Christ in a chicken basket, Steve-o, but your world is a very small and frightening place isn’t it.

    LOOKOUT, THERE’S A LESBIAN UNDER YOUR BED!

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:47 pm

  775. Is there anyone useful here tonight?

    I have been trying to get a 1Gb .mov file to someone over the net, but you can’t email that size. I Googled and tried We Transfer, which seemed to be working alright but after a 4 hour upload, apparently crashed at the last minute and the email notification that it have been uploaded never came.

    Any suggestions for other large file delivery services?

  776. Dropbox doesn’t work for that size either, I’m pretty sure.

  777. Here’s the kicker: “And all of a sudden, all of a sudden — literally, not figuratively — they were decimated.” If they were literally decimated, Biden doesn’t just see ordinary people, he sees dead people. But only one for every nine among the living.

    You’re right, CL, it is funny. The above had me in stitches, literally lol

    Now back to the article.

    Gab

    17 Aug 12 at 11:54 pm

  778. Can’t your friends download their own hamster porn, Steve?

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:55 pm

  779. PETA’s gonna be on to you for sure now, Steve.

    sdog

    17 Aug 12 at 11:56 pm

  780. Is there anyone useful here tonight?

    zip and span the files dude, there are utilities for that.

    Dead Soul

    17 Aug 12 at 11:56 pm

  781. The problem is the recipient is not very technically minded, so I wanted a method that didn’t involve re-assembling things at the other end.

    I also thought zipping a .mov file didn’t achieve much.

  782. Steve, listening to you essay the technological marvels and hitherto unknown unknowns being marshalled for an Iran strike is like listening to Joe Biden explain the Yang–Mills existence and mass gap.

    C.L.

    18 Aug 12 at 12:02 am

  783. I also thought zipping a .mov file didn’t achieve much.

    It doesn’t but some zip programs, perhaps zip genius, allow you to split the big file into smaller ones.

    Dead Soul

    18 Aug 12 at 12:22 am

  784. Y’all gotta read that Goldberg piece. It’s very funny:

    Not that funny… I read the first page (of 4). Is that enough?

    Fleeced

    18 Aug 12 at 12:23 am

  785. The problem is the recipient is not very technically minded, so I wanted a method that didn’t involve re-assembling things at the other end.

    I don’t think there’s an easy way to do that for non-technical people.

    Here’s a low tech but effective solution:

    1. Go to Harvey Norman or Big W or something.
    2. Buy a USB key for $4.
    3. Put the file on it.
    4. Pop it in an envelope and mail it.

    Dangph

    18 Aug 12 at 12:24 am

  786. 4. Pop it in an envelope and mail it.

    As my Data Comms lecturer said, “Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of magnetic tape”.

    He had a point… though the latency’s a bitch!

    Fleeced

    18 Aug 12 at 12:30 am

  787. Or burn a DVD.

    Dangph

    18 Aug 12 at 12:30 am

  788. He had a point… though the latency’s a bitch!

    If you factor in ADSL upload speeds and all the faffing about trying to upload the thing and getting the other person to download it and join it up, an Australia Post express bag would be pretty competitive in terms of latency.

    Dangph

    18 Aug 12 at 12:52 am

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