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August 20th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
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I want to know why her parents left Wales. I’ll bet they were quite content until Jools darkened the nursery.
Infidel Tiger
20 Aug 12 at 6:10 pm
Sorry can’t help, I’ve tried but can’t remember.
Old Fridgie
20 Aug 12 at 6:13 pm
Nope, me either.
Cato the Elder
20 Aug 12 at 6:15 pm
She fooled so many including me.
I remember thinking in 2004 that Labor were mad choosing Latham and they should have been progressive and chosen Gillard.
Medicare Gold was the first sign.
JamesK
20 Aug 12 at 6:17 pm
No.
C.L.
20 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm
Give us a clue!
Daisy
20 Aug 12 at 6:19 pm
As probably reported on the dead rhinoceros thread, the latest Essential poll is out.
Abbott’s lead has widened to 14 points.
C.L.
20 Aug 12 at 6:20 pm
I’ll take that as a question without notice.
dover_beach
20 Aug 12 at 6:21 pm
Sinc, are you okay today?
JC
20 Aug 12 at 6:24 pm
Dunno if this has been put before, but here are another couple of questions for Gillard:
Gillard set up the Workplace Reform Association for Wilson and she herself wrote the rules which included that no member of the AWU could personally benefit from the association. She was present at the auction when Wilson bid for the house and her company – Slater and Gordon – helped pay the mortgage.
Q: How could she not know that Wilson was breaking association rules?
The AWU became aware of the association only when a builder working on Gillard’s house, sent the bill to the AWU.
Q: Why did a builder renovating the house of a Slater and Gordon lawyer send a bill to the AWU?
jupes
20 Aug 12 at 6:24 pm
Gillard was competent? In a parallel universe, perhaps.
nilk
20 Aug 12 at 6:26 pm
Oh wow. Pickering’s latest cartoon is brilliant.
Some of his stuff is marginal – the price of being prolific. But that one sums up everything you need to know about this disgusting ‘government’ and its supporters.
C.L.
20 Aug 12 at 6:28 pm
She still is at Fairfax and the ABC.
jupes
20 Aug 12 at 6:28 pm
They made a mistake with the address, Jupes.
The house was in Kerr Street Fitzroy and the AWU address is Spencer Street West Melbourne.
That sort of error could happen to anyone. You can easily confuse Kerr Street with Spencer street. Fitzroy and West Melbourne are almost identical in written format although they sound the same when spoken.
JC
20 Aug 12 at 6:30 pm
I wonder if the Creeper Thompson threat of self harm will make entrance to the stage this time round?
I give it to the end of the week before one of those idiots brings it up.
JC
20 Aug 12 at 6:34 pm
When you are in a room with Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan you have a big head-start.
I wonder how much of this cluster-fuck Tanner actually saw coming?
H B Bear
20 Aug 12 at 6:37 pm
Define “competent” in the context of your question.
Obio
20 Aug 12 at 6:40 pm
The trolls are strangely quite.
Rudiau
20 Aug 12 at 6:44 pm
No you are lying Snic.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 6:49 pm
Gratton: When were you last considered competent Prime Minister?
PM: Michelle, that was 17 years ago and I’ve answered that question many times before. It’s on the public record. I’ve got far weightier matters to consider like the brilliant plan I’ve just thought of to stop asylum seekers.
Gratton ( curtsying): Thank you Prime Minister.
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 6:51 pm
But GrantB, will Grattan kiss her ring?
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 6:58 pm
By whom? And do I think they’re competent?
Keith
20 Aug 12 at 7:00 pm
CL – You’ll have to link to LP’s latest. His blog is down because of a million monkeys typing naughty scripts or something. He says on Facebook:
Nope, that url is down too. Maybe Mordy done it.
Bruce
20 Aug 12 at 7:00 pm
Sorry, spoke too soon, pp is up.
Bruce
20 Aug 12 at 7:07 pm
I can say with absolute honesty I never thought it. The whole competence thing was a construct and at best was relative. The only one that had half a clue was Tanner and that is being kind and I am probably seeing through rose coloured glasses since he pissed off as quick as he could from the train wreck.
I said when she rolled KRudd we would come to realise he was the brains of their operation and that should scare the shit out of us. Shame to be right inthis instance.
Mark
20 Aug 12 at 7:09 pm
I think she was as Deputy PM. But stealing her boss’s job, whe wasn’t ready, and bad karma attached.
But perhaps all good PM’s come from a hefty trial in opposition first, to get the hang of things.
candy
20 Aug 12 at 7:10 pm
I do not know about time in opposition. A few days working in the real world might help. Somehow working in a Labor law firm doing law work for union people who are suspected of taking union funds for inappropriate purposes is not the real world experience needed. She needs to start again, at McDonalds, if they would have her.
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 7:14 pm
but …
maybe that takes a special type of competence (or incompetence as the case may be)
val majkus
20 Aug 12 at 7:26 pm
I give up. When?
kae
20 Aug 12 at 7:29 pm
Define “competent”.
boy on a bike
20 Aug 12 at 7:31 pm
No TnFl, plz.
As some of us have discussed before, there are several logical reasons for his cheaply-hosted site to go down or be suspended other than State intervention.
If he truly is getting hit by serial DDOS attacks, there are ways to be more protective about that (some hints via WattsUpWithThat). But it could also just be the increased traffic, or other TOS-related issues with his hosting company.
Sorry, I’m not really aiming this at you, Bruce, since you’re not at all one of the serial hysterics. But his fans’ constant screeching of DISSENT SILENCED!!!!111!!! on Twitter and other blogs (and I presume on Facebook – I don’t do FB) is getting… screechy.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 7:41 pm
LarryP is on FB only and as of a few minutes ago is deeply pissed off with Michael Pascoe (who he – ed?)
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 7:48 pm
LarryP is on FB only and as of a few minutes ago is deeply pissed off with Michael Pascoe (who he – ed?)
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 7:48 pm
Sorry, at pub on iphone. Too difficult to do the FB link as well.
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 7:52 pm
GrantB, Michael Pascoe is a so called journalist and economics commentator and first class wanker.
Eyrie
20 Aug 12 at 7:55 pm
Gillard and competant should never be used in the same sentence.
Carpe Jugulum
20 Aug 12 at 7:55 pm
OK. I give up.
I’ll play your silly bloody game.
When was Gillard considered competent?
Winston Smith
20 Aug 12 at 7:58 pm
Remember when Andrew Bolt went into raptures over her, portraying her as some sort of left-wing Thatcher?
Poor fella bet he regrets that…
MDMConnell
20 Aug 12 at 8:00 pm
I suspect Gillard and competence parted ways when she left Wales. I mean how incompetent do you have to be to get caught in a Union scam in a Union friendly law firm? FFS. The Honchos at Slater and Gordon must stare into their single malt and mutter the same incomprehensible thought: how the fuck did SHE EVER BECOME PM?
John Comnenus
20 Aug 12 at 8:08 pm
Given their press release today, they should be renamed Slapper & Gordon.
Gab
20 Aug 12 at 8:09 pm
Ugh.
My passion for Julia
Why Gillard is the conservatives’ pin-up. For now
Column – Why the Right loves this lady of the Left
Do you reckon he was just deliberately trolling his own blog for comments & hits, maybe?
It was supremely icky, whatever the case.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:10 pm
Spot
are you having problems accessing twitter?
Gab
20 Aug 12 at 8:11 pm
I suspect Gillard and competence parted ways when she left Wales. I don’t think the two have gotten any closer since then. I mean she couldnt even organize a union rort in a union friendly law firm FFS!
This evening, as pressure mounts, the Honchos will state vacantly into their crystal tumblers of 20 year old single malt whiskey and ask: How the fuck did SHE EVER BECOME PM!
John Comnenus
20 Aug 12 at 8:11 pm
Bolt has serially catastrophic judgement, like most in the media tend to do.
The difference with him is he isn’t afraid to change his mind, and doesn’t ever back losing horses.
brc
20 Aug 12 at 8:17 pm
Spot
are you having problems accessing twitter?
No. Just put out my little #auspol highlights thingy about 20 minutes ago.
?
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:18 pm
Spot
are you having problems accessing twitter?
No. Just put out my little #auspol highlights thingy about 20 minutes ago.
http://paper.li/s_dog/aussiesontheright-ozcot
?
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:19 pm
Remember when Peter Patton was assuring everyone here that Gillard was going to be the next Maggie Thatcher?
He needs to be publicly tarred and feathered and flogged on his arse 100 times with a whip just for that,
jtfsoon
20 Aug 12 at 8:19 pm
Well then it must be my end. Your twitter address appears in the search bar but the page is blank below it.
Gab
20 Aug 12 at 8:20 pm
On 2nd thoughts he’s probably enjoy that ….
jtfsoon
20 Aug 12 at 8:22 pm
Oh yea. And that she was a conservative to boot.
Patton, you need to answer charges of gross comment negligence and brazen gullibility.
JC
20 Aug 12 at 8:23 pm
Those three suck-up pieces alone scored him more than 500 comments.
So I guess it depends on what game he’s playing with his blog. It he was going for bit hits and high comment counts, his judgement was spot on.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:23 pm
Your twitter address appears in the search bar but the page is blank below it.
Boo. S’working for me. Coming up on 8,000 followers soon
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:26 pm
“She has the mouth of Paul Keating, but the eyes of Megan Gale, and the one just enhances the other. ”
A. Bolt said that?
candy
20 Aug 12 at 8:38 pm
“Remember when Julia was considered competent?”
When was that?
Apparently it wasn’t during her exit interview at Ambulance Chaser Central.
Leigh Lowe
20 Aug 12 at 8:41 pm
Are all Union Leaders crooks?
Or just most of them?
Leigh Lowe
20 Aug 12 at 8:44 pm
To be absolutely fair to all involved, the most anyone had seen of Gillard was when she was attacking people in parliament.
The days of being told to her face she was a liar by members of the general public were yet to come. Her clumsy handling of public appearances hadn’t happened yet. She hadn’t yet done a barefaced lie to the camera. All these things were yet to come.
At the time I think people were just happy to be rid of Rudd the megalomaniac and the programmatic-specifities of his leadership. Gillard probably seemed sane in comparison.
It’s funny though, when the political eulogies are written, Rudd is actually going to come out much better off in comparison. And the status of Gough will be raised any further.
Nobody believed the warnings about Labor being fiscally reckless incompetent administrators with no clues of their own. Well, yet another generation of Australians has learnt that incompetence is Labor DNA.
brc
20 Aug 12 at 8:47 pm
Just on 7 news break that JG probably only has a few weeks. Colleagues not impressed with her handling of questions about her past.
Flood gates might be slowly opening!
Biota
20 Aug 12 at 8:50 pm
Bloody hell.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:50 pm
Peter Patton, you have a lot to answer for!
Fisky
20 Aug 12 at 8:51 pm
When she is gone the smell of her “competence” will linger. Labor will take a while to regain public confidence. Probably days before the gullible fools flock back to the next “competent” saviour
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 8:53 pm
Are there any current members of Catallaxy who backed the infamous double of Obama ’08, Gillard ’10?
That’s an automatic public execution, burial in unmarked grave crime.
Infidel Tiger
20 Aug 12 at 8:54 pm
Andrew Bolt may also have something to feel sheepish about.
blogstrop
20 Aug 12 at 8:54 pm
Yeah, no. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 8:57 pm
@whalehunt I will go so far as to venture that the next Labor PM isn’t in parliament yet.
brc
20 Aug 12 at 8:58 pm
You see what I mean with those fawning Gillard pieces?
No amount of pageviews is worth dribbling that tripe. I remember reading it at the time and going ‘oh, come one, give it a rest’.
brc
20 Aug 12 at 8:59 pm
Your vision, brc, of a blessed and shining Labor-leader-free parliament brings light to these dark fays
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 9:01 pm
Your vision, brc, of a blessed and shining Labor-leader-free parliament brings light to these dark days
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 9:01 pm
Bolt’s been at the forefront of criticising Gillard. You’re all making out like he’s been one of her biggest boosters when the opposite is true.
dd
20 Aug 12 at 9:02 pm
So, reading that again… what does that say about her “accidental inadvertence” to start a file for her lover’s union scam?
She was too busy drawing fucking cats on fucking legal correspondence to get around to it?
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 9:03 pm
And speaking of “the f-verb”, how do we reconcile this claimed “school-marmish insistence on standards, which always appeals so thrillingly to conservatives” with all the married men she was gettin’ busy with?
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 9:04 pm
Bolt’s not the messiah DD. Sometimes – especially when it’s come to Gillard – he’s been a very naughty boy.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 9:06 pm
don’t miss the latest Michael Smith youtube
interviewed by David Flint
I left the link on open forum (today’s date)
very elucidating
val majkus
20 Aug 12 at 9:06 pm
It’s true Ms Gillard had a lot of goodwill from the public and journalists etc as deputy PM.
candy
20 Aug 12 at 9:14 pm
Here is the David Flint – Michael Smith interview link again. (thanks val)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_BGGuYJIbg
In summary, Gillard signed off on the articles of association saying that the fake AWU body, headed up by her boyfriend, would promote “workplace change” and other vague goals. But then she admitted when questioned by her S&G partners in 1995 that it was a “union slush fund”.
So she deceived the WA corporate commissioner by helping her boyfriend set up an association on grounds that she later admitted were false. She also didn’t bother to find out if this was a bone fide AWU body. And a few weeks after setting up this sham body, she attended the house auction with her boyfriend, who wrote a cheque from the AWU slush fund to buy it.
Of course, she “didn’t know” what was going on.
Fisky
20 Aug 12 at 9:16 pm
DD
Bolt was a booster at the start. I too was briefly taken in by his and Patton’s crap. Where is that anti-Papist obsessive? he should come here and take his punishment
jtfsoon
20 Aug 12 at 9:18 pm
but … i did nothing wrong
val majkus
20 Aug 12 at 9:18 pm
She was too damn busy drawing cats on her colleagues’ legal files, Fisky.
And bonking ol’ whatsisname.
There’s only so much a girl can do.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 9:21 pm
Please tell me you do not mean she was doing the two things at the same time? What was she drawing them on?
No NO NO! please do not say
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 9:24 pm
But, CATS! She drew lots of lovely CATS!
And we all love her.
So that’s all right then.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 9:28 pm
Val, I watched it. It’s devastating and should get the widest possible coverage. Head post, Catallaxy, Bolt, Blair etc. Even Prof Quiggan might give it a run. Crikey, the Drum, who knows?
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 9:29 pm
sorry – linky for the first blocktext
the cats were distracting me
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 9:29 pm
pity her talents don’t extend to the tricky art of pronunciation.
#hyperbowl #taliband etc.
Gab
20 Aug 12 at 9:30 pm
Unbelievably Mark Latham is defending Gillard to the hilt on Sky.
Infidel Tiger
20 Aug 12 at 9:31 pm
Are there any current members of Catallaxy who backed the infamous double of Obama ’08, Gillard ’10?
That’s an automatic public execution, burial in unmarked grave crime.
Indeed. But what of those that manfully resisted the zeitgeist?
dover_beach
20 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm
Maybe he thinks there’s a chance he can be called upon to lead the ALP again.
Makes sense
JamesK
20 Aug 12 at 9:33 pm
Members – No.
Catallaxy trolls – Yes
JamesK
20 Aug 12 at 9:34 pm
I didn’t exactly back Obama in 08 but I wasn’t too upset about him either. I thought maybe America’s time for a black President had come, and closed my eyes to the leftish nature of it all. Mea culpa, but I’ve never claimed to really follow American politics anyway.
I was living in the UK for some months during the Gillard take-over and thus had only a limited local view of what it was about. But I was so unable to comprehend why anyone voted for Kevin Rudd, never a ‘lite’ conservative, let alone why the still-socialist Gillard should suddenly take over. I’ve always thought she was a total lightweight, still entranced with a completely juvenile leftist vision of policy, and Rudd a clone of David Brent (of The Office fame). Both absolutely skin-crawlingly awful.
Plus leftish feminist women who pitch at and run off with other people’s husbands leaving the wife alone with young children do not play well with me; nor do the men concerned.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
20 Aug 12 at 9:35 pm
Oh dear God – My eyes, they burn.
Carpe Jugulum
20 Aug 12 at 9:35 pm
They get to man the gallows.
Infidel Tiger
20 Aug 12 at 9:36 pm
She was seen as a competent Acting Prime Minister because she kept her head when Rudd was clearly going off his in a big way. And so we all looked forward to seeing what would happen if by some incredible chance she supplanted him.
And then she did.
Whoa boy, was that ever the biggest shock!
perturbed
20 Aug 12 at 9:36 pm
If she’s such a fucking anal retentive about grammer, what does she make of the spoken word; hyperbowl, inedible, taliband etc
Meeow perhaps.
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 9:41 pm
They get to man the gallows.
Ah! You’re a man’s man, IT. We’ll have to draw lots for this duty as they’ll be a few of us. CL will, of course, exercise his conscience in the matter and abjure.
dover_beach
20 Aug 12 at 9:41 pm
There will also be plum overseas appointments: Cultural Attache to Nigella Lawson being one.
Infidel Tiger
20 Aug 12 at 9:45 pm
Ok grammar. pub, iphone
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 9:46 pm
I recall how he gave me shit about being critical of the lying slapper too. He went hog wild abusive towards me because I didn’t understand she was a conservative.
He also went berserk after I was critical of that idiot Clover Moore too.
Patton, you need to show up here now! and answer these charges to a jury of your peers. Think of us as a grand jury.
JC
20 Aug 12 at 9:47 pm
“Person”the gallows perhaps?
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 9:49 pm
Cultural Attache to Nigella Lawson
I’d be content with being her kitchenhand.
dover_beach
20 Aug 12 at 9:52 pm
Ms Gillard is not gone. She’s not budging. She has the support of her Party.
candy
20 Aug 12 at 9:53 pm
Dude, has Patton bitten you on the neck and causing you to become a luvvie lover. She basically advised Rudd to ramp up the shit about da global warming scare. He got so worked up about it, the moron took an entourage of 300 hangers on with him to Copey. No one there bought that swill and he came back empty handed. The Slapper with Shane Wand then advised him to can the biggest moral challenge of our time. The punters thought he was nuts after that and she then knifed the idiot in back. There’s nothing competent about the the slapper. We all weren’t focusing on her at the time as we had another moron to watch over. Rudd.
JC
20 Aug 12 at 9:54 pm
Why is it that I could see that Gillard was useless but Bolt couldn’t? Truly, many of the Bolt readers could see she was faulty before she was elevated in the Peter Principle manner.
kae
20 Aug 12 at 9:57 pm
And these be the cream of the Labor crop…. what dangers lurk in the dark behind them?
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 9:58 pm
The clingiest of the OH ANDREW YOUR HAIR LOOKED SO SHINY TODAY AND WHAT A HANDSOME SHIRT! blue-haired Boltoids completely swallowed his “Margaret Thatcher With Megan Gale’s Eye’s” emissions.
#IDKY.
Also, I know. Icky.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 10:09 pm
I wish I had one a them “coolsmirk” emoticons to insert here – I’m feeling positively Boltillian now.
SPOT, LEAVE BOLT AND HIS COMMENTERS ALOOOOONE!
I know, OK. Shutting up now.
~INSERT COOL ZIPPERMOUTH EMOTICON HERE~
No really. I know.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 10:13 pm
Who is the fat blonde bimbo on Q&A? She’s making Doug Cameron look like Richard Feynman.
GrantB
20 Aug 12 at 10:13 pm
Teflon wears off and real stuff starts to stick. As it will.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
20 Aug 12 at 10:17 pm
Bolta’s infatuation with Gillard seemed to date from some trip she made to Israel. Bolta met her there, or something, and came back singing her praises.
I seem to recall that prior to that he had been more ambivalent toward her owing to her being a part of the kitchen cabinet that gave us the batts fiasco, the BER etc. She must have talked a good game.
Aqualung
20 Aug 12 at 10:32 pm
Fortunately, those Bolt pages record my dissenting view with respect to Gillard. (phew)
Keith
20 Aug 12 at 10:40 pm
Sometimes a hundred rockets in a day or even more land in Israel. So much chance and still we lost out. what were the Palestinians thinking?
What did we do to so offend them.
WhaleHunt Fun
20 Aug 12 at 10:42 pm
Might could be he was impressed by her, um, –> =^..^=
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 10:43 pm
CATS. Another mentally unstable lady who loves cats.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 10:48 pm
Ahem. Poll Bludger is reporting:
So, only a 3% shift from the Coalition side and we are back to 50/50.
mOnty and I snigger and sleep easy tonight.
steve from brisbane
20 Aug 12 at 10:56 pm
So if it went the other way it would have kept you up all night?
You’re an imbecile, Step.
JC
20 Aug 12 at 10:58 pm
Something weird is going on. It’s like the voters have factored her imminent incarceration into their decision.
Infidel Tiger
20 Aug 12 at 11:02 pm
Geez, mate. This is why teh ghey thing makes so many people uncomfortable. No one wants to know what y’all get up to in the privacy of your own bedroom.
NO ONE.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 11:03 pm
Should we pop SfB’s bubble by telling him it’s a Murdoch conspiracy to prop up Gillard….or let him dream his happy (wet) dreams for one more night??
MDMConnell
20 Aug 12 at 11:11 pm
You make it sound like a secret society.
dd
20 Aug 12 at 11:12 pm
Newspoll assisted Gillard’s survival in February with their rescheduled poll. Now another fortuitous poll. It’s like Newspoll wants to keep her in place so that she can inflict maximum damage on the Liar’s party.
Keith
20 Aug 12 at 11:13 pm
I’m praying she holds on just a little longer, if only so that we can see the crowning glory that is the public destruction of both Gillard and Obama in the same week – Gillard in Parliament and Obama at the polls.
Or would people rather wait until the fallout from the one’s just desserts has settled before the other gets theirs?
perturbed
20 Aug 12 at 11:16 pm
Sorry – I just want her gone. The sooner the better.
Viva
20 Aug 12 at 11:17 pm
This thread is titled “Remember When Gillard Was Considered Competent?”
Well that would have been when primary votes for Labor were higher than 35% and 2PP was higher than 47%, yeah?
Steve & Monty Mixalot: Baby Got BACK!
Whatevs, kids. LOL.
sdog
20 Aug 12 at 11:29 pm
over 90% on Sky News Poll want Gillard to answer some questions …
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
20 Aug 12 at 11:29 pm
“Non story”, “nobody cares”
-SfB and m0nty
twostix
20 Aug 12 at 11:39 pm
sdog: Greens preferences (and the Green vote is absolutely stuck on at least 10%) are never going to go back to the Coalition. You may as well just add that on to the Labor vote.
steve from brisbane
20 Aug 12 at 11:44 pm
Except that over 20% of Greens preference flow to the Coalition, as anyone paying attention already knows.
benson
20 Aug 12 at 11:55 pm
Gillard was the author of Medicare Gold. That alone marked her as a policy flake, and a dangerously dumb one at that. It seemed that her primary area of expertise was politics. Who’d have thunk she’d suck at that too…
Lloydww
20 Aug 12 at 11:58 pm
Excellent. A very influencial man indeed.
Boris
21 Aug 12 at 12:12 am
As was the case after Rudd scuttled back to QLD, there will be a rush of journalists telling us that they knew Gillard was incompetent, stupid, corrupt and unethical all along. And as with their rapid change of perspective on Rudd, not one of them will be held accountable in any meaningful way. They’ll simply slide into boosting the next Labor leader and expect people to keep on taking them seriously.
Hanyu
21 Aug 12 at 12:28 am
Confirmed:
Law firm Slater & Gordon’s axe over PM Julia Gillard.
SACKED.
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 12:28 am
Kinda like ground hog hey?
JC
21 Aug 12 at 12:31 am
Well golly gee gosh, I guess it’s just darn lucky some of us aren’t that gullible.
So the Australian’s editorial warning shot to S&G yesterday was founded.
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 12:35 am
How and why the fuck is a statement known to have been “drafted last week” described as having been “leaked”?
What, his secretary pinched it or something?
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 12:37 am
If they’re going to roll her they have to go more then 12 months out from the election, or the replacement won’t get the retirement benefits from being PM when it is over for them. So expect the knifing before the end of October.
Tim
21 Aug 12 at 12:37 am
The ironic thing is that this poll from Newsweek could actually make her position worse not better.
If you’re a backbencher sitting in a marginal seat you see the polls improving and the slapper getting body slammed over the wilson thing, you begin to think… well with the right leadership we could actually win the next election and it may be worth taking the risk to get rid of her.
JC
21 Aug 12 at 12:42 am
Peter Gordon’s “draft statement in full.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/gillard-under-fire-we-gave-her-the-benefit-of-the-doubt/story-fn59niix-1226454518031
Note: Gordon and Gillard hang out occasionally at the football.
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 1:01 am
Hedley Thomas exclusive up at The Australian.
Gordon’s statement brings new player into the frame who was also investigated:
Thomas: love media wilfully lying…
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 1:05 am
Pretty obvious who “name redacted” is given it’s common knowledge two lawyers left the firm. Both of whom have been elevated to positions of importance in this country. One of which elevated to the Prime Minister’s office.
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 1:08 am
arrrrgh…”One of whom was elevated…”
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 1:10 am
Thomas: Slater & Gordon tried to monster Styant-Browne…
Thomas story headline:
Gillard under fire: ‘We gave her the benefit of the doubt’.
Now there’s a glowing professional endorsement.
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 1:10 am
Well Pickering has been insinuating that (name redacted) was Bernard Murphy.
Cold-Hands
21 Aug 12 at 1:22 am
Thomas says negotiations with Gordon broke down during preparation of his report.
So that’s how he knows it was drafted last week.
But how can it be “leaked”?
This can only mean:
Gordon let them use it on the understanding that it would be described as leaked rather than official. (To protect himself).
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 1:36 am
Mr Gordon must have been amazed years later to see REDACTED appointed as a federal court judge by Ms Gillard.
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 1:41 am
Blewitt and Wilson are not going to be given indemnity from prosecution are they?
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 1:46 am
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/slater-gordon-partners-turn-on-each-other-amid-gag-threat/story-fn59niix-1226454539666
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 1:48 am
The Firm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMmE8RLieiA
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 1:49 am
Gab
21 Aug 12 at 1:50 am
It’s becoming clearer why Gillard refuses to issue a statement clarifying matters despite the urgings of people like Warren Mundine.
Ivan Denisovich
21 Aug 12 at 1:51 am
Slater and Gordon get very angry and shouty with Styant-Browne
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/slater-gordon-partners-turn-on-each-other-amid-gag-threat/story-fn59niix-1226454539666
Ha ha ha! “Please keep this letter confidential, and absolutely do not ever dream of sending this to Hedley Thomas along with all the other stuff you’ve given him”.
Fisky
21 Aug 12 at 2:25 am
LOL.
Sue! Sue! Sue!
Let’s unravel it all in court, Slater & Gordon.
Go!
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 2:55 am
Styant-Browne should send a copy of the transcript to Bolt, Akerman and Thomas for safety and issue a press release warning that if any Labor/union zombies try to harm him in Seattle, everything will be released at once. But he should also say that he will publish one paragraph from the document every couple of days until the next election regardless of what they do, with a three paragraph penalty every time someone tries to contact him, or criticises him in the press.
Fisky
21 Aug 12 at 3:03 am
Seriously though. Hedley Thomas must be loving it. This is the highlight of his career, and it’s got a LONG way to go. Beats the hell out of Fatty Oakes leaking one of Howard’s budgets back in the 70s, which the Stenographers thought was the most amazing thing since Watergate.
But they didn’t notice the Canberra race riot (or follow it up) and they’ve barely bothered to report the Hedley Thomas leaks, except for yesterday’s pitiful effort to claim Gillard was “cleared”.
Fisky
21 Aug 12 at 3:08 am
The Labor Party have run Latham, Rudd and Gillard in three consecutive elections. The first had bipolar syndrome and anger management issues, the second was a psychopathic hater of human beings, and the last is a pathological liar.
These are the leaders that the Labor Party have recommended as thoroughly decent types who should be given full executive power. Clearly, there is something systematically wrong with the Labor Party for inflicting on us such dysfunctional and morally-tainted people, and it’s not at all obvious why they should be allowed to run candidates for future elections.
There are limits to our tolerance, and they must be enforced.
Fisky
21 Aug 12 at 3:41 am
What a marvelous week it’s been in Australian politics.
Abu Chowdah
21 Aug 12 at 4:00 am
Beautiful – there is a transcript under lock and key!
Kaboom
21 Aug 12 at 6:13 am
Goat rodeo. Y’all got any popcorn left?
sdog
21 Aug 12 at 6:38 am
Labor cabinet moves to get clean air as the stench of AWU/Wilson increases.
Splatacrobat
21 Aug 12 at 6:39 am
Yet he, and the rest of the S&G clan watched both careers progress, and none of them felt any duty to speak up at any stage in the last 17 years.
Keith
21 Aug 12 at 6:59 am
Hey Monty,
You spoke of weasel words, here you go :
From Gordon’s letter.
Keith
21 Aug 12 at 7:05 am
I wish the timeline was a bit clearer here. But am I right in assuming that the leadership of the AWU had changed (with Wilson getting the boot); the new leadership uncovered what Wilson and Slater & Gordon had been up to; the AWU dumped Slater & Gordon and presumably at that point, the partners called in Gillard and asked “WTF?! Why have the AWU dumped us and gone to Maurice Blackburn?!” You know what lawyers are like with money – the partners would be most upset at losing a major client.
And then it all came out. It’s a bit hard to explain away a major client suddenly pulling the plug with no warning. It’s gotta be pretty serious for that to happen.
boy on a bike
21 Aug 12 at 7:42 am
Remember when Gillard was considered competent?
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This is a trick question, isn’t it?
Mk50 of Brisbane
21 Aug 12 at 7:56 am
No mention of how the money was collected for this Union organisation?
kae
21 Aug 12 at 7:59 am
Gillard considered competent for comedic effect…
ar
21 Aug 12 at 8:10 am
What would have been S&G’s agenda in all this, going back to their discovery of Gillard’s role in the dodgy AWU association up until the present?
Would they have been taking a risk letting Gillard resign if she was effectively out of the law game and the AWU was going to stay quiet because they have an instinctive awareness that they are at all times probably guilty of something. And now S&G is trying to drum up business amongst the plebians and have likely made their association with the PM part of their image?
Aqualung
21 Aug 12 at 8:38 am
Labor apologist Jon Faine on ABC local radio (774 Melbourne) shrugged off the frontpage investigations in The Australian with a classic “nothing to see here”. But then he was a lefty lawyer who’s chummy with most of the principal players.
Cold-Hands
21 Aug 12 at 8:48 am
Seems to me the Gordon statement does pretty much end it. Acrimonious ends to legal partnerships are not exactly rare, and as I suspected, it appears that the view of the partners was not uniform.
Seems to me that the Australian and Hedley Thomas have been playing a “gotcha” game too; asking questions and hoping that Gillard will answer in ways inconsistent with what they already had.
In my view, she has been right not to engage in this.
steve from brisbane
21 Aug 12 at 9:03 am
I suppose S & G giving her the benefit of the doubt meant they deemed Ms Gillard incompetent but decided she was not knowingly guilty of fraud, so they did not press charges against her.
Time passes and her being PM helps their business, and they don’t want to look into the past, but Styant-Browne does. I wonder what his motive is, justice or fame or money or what.
It’s a serious stressful thing for him to do, I would think.
candy
21 Aug 12 at 9:27 am
Smith made a set of allegations against Gillard on air yesterday, and repeated them on youtube. Gillard’s futile attempts to ignore this issue, and her disastrous interview with Kelly on the weekend has resulted in further escalation. Wilkie has now called on Gillard to explain herself to Parliament.
Yeah, that non-engagement strategy is really working for her.
Keith
21 Aug 12 at 9:39 am
“You just keep thinkin’,
Butchbeta. That’s what you’re good at.”JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 9:42 am
Nope, Richo is correct:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/time-to-explain-wilkie-tells-pm/story-fn59niix-1226454517017
Ivan Denisovich
21 Aug 12 at 9:49 am
Pickering has broadened the attack and again he’s spot on:
THE FACELESS MEN AT WORK
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 10:24 am
It’s hard to get clean air in the vicinity of a rotting dead rhinoceros.
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 10:51 am
Here’s what we know…
Gillard’s association with criminals led her own colleagues to conclude that she was dodgier than Russ Hinze and sacked her via the old expedient of ‘allowing’ her to ‘resign.’
C.L.
21 Aug 12 at 10:54 am
I haven’t been able to get the Andrew Bolt blog up on either site this morning
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 10:59 am
Perhaps Slater & Gordon (or Young & Naive, as Blair calls them) could tell us how many other times Gillard accidentally failed to open a file or any of the other ‘mistakes’ that enabled Bruce Wilson.
Aqualung
21 Aug 12 at 11:08 am
…other mistakes as enabled…
Aqualung
21 Aug 12 at 11:09 am
Seems to me that a poll showing Labor heading towards a competitive position has worked like a bucket of cold water over the normal histrionics in comments thread here.
steve from brisbane
21 Aug 12 at 11:52 am
Sweet dreams, Steve.
However I do agree with you about this Gillard shit. Yes she’s a lying larcenist with the morals of an alley cat with a crack addiction, however the idea that her deplorable past behaviour will see her resign or dumped is a flight of fancy. If the rabid pock marked whoremonger Thomson can survive then anyone can survive. In about 400 days we can turf the redheaded usurper out on her enormous derriere and forget about this whole sordid mess.
Then we need a god damn Royal Commission into the union corruption that is eating away at this nation.
Infidel Tiger
21 Aug 12 at 12:03 pm
SteveFB – You should also comment now on the left leaning Essential poll from yesterday.
Flat as the Nullarbor. The accompanying poll on the carbon tax is especially interesting, since it suggests the few remaining ALP voters are even more credulous that Greens voters.
Bruce
21 Aug 12 at 12:35 pm
Classic projection
Talking of histrionics Swan has barged into the discussion.
Let’s see now. Two contra-indicators in one day, agreeing that Gillard has done nothing wrong….hmmm….yep, Gillard should be in gaol.
Keith
21 Aug 12 at 12:40 pm
No, classic case of no self awareness.
steve from brisbane
21 Aug 12 at 12:45 pm
Slater and Gordon are the weak links here.
I think there may have been not one fileless transaction, but quite a few. Pro bono work doesn’t come cheap, you know.
We need to get the Law Society to investigate a bit closer. As well as the ASIC.
There are questions to be answered, and a smelly rhinoceros carcass to be lifted to see what it is hiding.
Winston Smith
21 Aug 12 at 12:58 pm
Peter Faris is on the job.
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 1:01 pm
For goodness sake, Winston: profession oversight bodies have better things to do than investigate what went on about opening files in an solicitors firm with a completely different set of staff 18 years ago, and for which they have received no complaint from a client.
steve from brisbane
21 Aug 12 at 1:03 pm
I still can’t get either Andrew Bolt blog up.
I smell a rat.
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 1:07 pm
Try this link James. Its Through the Courier Mail
Splatacrobat
21 Aug 12 at 1:11 pm
IT, you may be right – this is the old guard of the ALP seeking the removal of the Union parasite from its distal colon.
And before anyone says “You idiot Winston, the old guard of the ALP is the Union parasite.” I would say that the overlap between the two is not 100%, even though it is 80 – 90%.
I would also keep a close eye on the DLP.
Winston Smith
21 Aug 12 at 1:11 pm
Must be peculiar to me because that link doesn’t respond either Splat.
The other tele blogs work fine
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 1:13 pm
Right then, point at my “histrionics” please.
Keith
21 Aug 12 at 1:14 pm
Maybe you’ve been Finklesteined James?
Splatacrobat
21 Aug 12 at 1:16 pm
Who’s that bangin’ on the door?
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 1:18 pm
The timeline here is the key:
1. builder sends invoice to AWU
2. AWU says WTF because it’s for Gillards house
3. BW gets the flick from AWU
4. AWU tells S&G to GFI
5. BW and JG split
6. S&G call JG in for a WTF session
7. JG turns out with receipts for building work
8. S&G interviews JG and Redacted and says ‘bye’
9. JG walks the plank.
Feel free to correct, insert, or add dates.
brc
21 Aug 12 at 1:45 pm
Prior to 1. JG advises purpose of the “association” was to make working conditions safer.
During 8. JG tells senior partners at S&G that the purpose of the “association’s” bank account was as a re-election slush fund.
Also somewhere in there BW pays deposit on house with a cheque from the “association”.
S&G furnish a loan to BW for the remainder of the house purchase, and provide free conveyancing and settlement services.
Keith
21 Aug 12 at 1:55 pm
Okay — it’s back up.
Who’d have thought an Andrew Bolt blog post titled:
Gillard is innocent!
I feel ashamed to admit I once felt she had questions to answer.
That nice man from the governemt got interwebs working for me.
Thank you Agent Smith.
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 1:56 pm
@keith – the house purchase was before the timeline. The timeline was for when the excrement finally connected with the oscillating air movement device.
So, updated:
<0. Association created, house bought, renovations done
1. builder sends invoice to AWU
2. AWU says WTF because it’s for Gillards house
3. BW gets the flick from AWU
4. AWU tells S&G to GFI
5. BW and JG split
6. S&G call JG in for a WTF session.
6.1 JG says association is for slush fund
7. JG turns out with receipts for building work
8. S&G interviews JG and Redacted and says ‘bye’
9. JG walks the plank.
brc
21 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm
0.1 Association created by telling the WA Government body that it is a Workplace Safety fund
Further update:
0.0 Association created by lying to the WA Government body that it was set up for advancing workplace safety.
<0.1house bought, renovations done
1. builder sends invoice to AWU
2. AWU says WTF because it’s for Gillards house
3. BW gets the flick from AWU
4. AWU tells S&G to GFI
5. BW and JG split
6. S&G call JG in for a WTF session.
6.1 JG says association is for slush fund
7. JG turns out with receipts for building work
8. S&G interviews JG and Redacted and says ‘bye’
9. JG walks the plank.
JamesK
21 Aug 12 at 2:25 pm