First, duck the argument. Second, nitpick. Third, vilify. That’s what Niall Ferguson says liberal bloggers did after reading his Newsweek story on Obama’s record. Here, he offers a point-by-point defense of his argument.
My critics have three things in common. First, they wholly fail to respond to the central arguments of the piece. Second, they claim to be engaged in “fact checking,” whereas in nearly all cases they are merely offering alternative (often silly or skewed) interpretations of the facts. Third, they adopt a tone of outrage that would be appropriate only if I had argued that, say, women’s bodies can somehow prevent pregnancies in case of “legitimate rape.”
Their approach is highly effective, and I must remember it if I ever decide to organize an intellectual witch hunt. What makes it so irksome is that it simultaneously dodges the central thesis of my piece and at the same time seeks to brand me as a liar. The icing on the cake has been the attempt by some bloggers to demand that I be sacked not just by Newsweek but also by Harvard University, where I am a tenured professor. It is especially piquant to read these demands from people who would presumably defend academic freedom in the last ditch—provided it is the freedom to publish opinions in line with their own ideology.
However, while Ms Roxon criticised reporting of the Prime Minister’s conduct on Tuesday, and claimed that there were Liberal Party connections behind the reports, she failed to reveal her own work on AWU matters.
Legal correspondence obtained by The Australian shows that Ms Roxon, as a solicitor for Maurice Blackburn & Co, a Melbourne law firm, worked on the AWU’s legal files after Ms Gillard’s departure from Slater & Gordon…
s a solicitor for the AWU Ms Roxon was directly involved in the handover of union documents for the investigation, as well as advising the then national union head, Terry Muscat. One of her legal letters to the commission’s then industrial registrar describes a 1998 conference at which “we identified outstanding documents which needed to be provided to your office for the purposes of completing your investigation”.
Ms Roxon’s letter sought from the commission an opportunity to make a special case to the registrar “on the questions of breach, mitigation, consequences and the public or private nature of any final determinations, prior to any determination being made by the registrar in this matter”.
Ms Roxon declined to answer questions but issued a statement that said she was “involved, to various degrees, in much of the work the (AWU) referred to Maurice Blackburn including unfair dismissals, discrimination cases, coverage matters and many general industrial disputes”…
The Australian asked Ms Roxon whether as Australia’s first law officer she should have disclosed her role in the matters at the time she was criticising media reporting of Ms Gillard’s conduct in the AWU scandal.
And wow do they sound elitist, hloier-than-though, how dare you question me…
Ms Roxon added that “we expect of journalists and we expect of public debate there to be some standard which is adhered to, and part of that standard is using the professional investigative skills that journalists have to be able to run a credibility ruler over a whole range of allegations that are made”. Editor-in-chief of The Australian Chris Mitchell said: “Ms Roxon’s behaviour on Tuesday in her press conference criticism of the media showed only that many in the media have much higher ethical standards than do some politicians.”
FEDERAL Attorney-General Nicola Roxon did sensitive legal work as a solicitor for the Australian Workers Union during a formal probe that followed a criminal investigation and the acrimonious departure of Julia Gillard from Slater & Gordon.
However, while Ms Roxon criticised reporting of the Prime Minister’s conduct on Tuesday, and claimed that there were Liberal Party connections behind the reports, she failed to reveal her own work on AWU matters.
Legal correspondence obtained by The Australian shows that Ms Roxon, as a solicitor for Maurice Blackburn & Co, a Melbourne law firm, worked on the AWU’s legal files after Ms Gillard’s departure from Slater & Gordon.
What an incestuous cesspool this repugnantly rotten generational shower of union legal-sleazes and union heavies this modern ALP party really are.
FEDERAL Attorney-General Nicola Roxon did sensitive legal work as a solicitor for the Australian Workers Union during a formal probe that followed a criminal investigation and the acrimonious departure of Julia Gillard from Slater & Gordon.
However, while Ms Roxon criticised reporting of the Prime Minister’s conduct on Tuesday, and claimed that there were Liberal Party connections behind the reports, she failed to reveal her own work on AWU matters.
Legal correspondence obtained by The Australian shows that Ms Roxon, as a solicitor for Maurice Blackburn & Co, a Melbourne law firm, worked on the AWU’s legal files after Ms Gillard’s departure from Slater & Gordon.
Good God. The Methodist Ladies’ College morals campaigner is now involved.
FM.
And hey – by the way: that bird who ‘cleared’ Craig Thompson the other day (chairman of the parliamentary privileges committee) is also a former AWU zombie.
Maurice Blackburn is the firm to which the Prime Minister’s former supervising partner, Bernard Murphy, moved in 1995 after resigning from Slater & Gordon.
It is also the firm at which federal Attorney-General Nicola Roxon worked from 1996 to 1998…
In April last year, the Gillard government announced the appointment of Mr Murphy, then chairman of Maurice Blackburn, to the Federal Court. He was the first Victorian solicitor to be appointed a Federal Court judge.
Both law firms donate exclusively to the Labor Party.
Well they do work for the unions so it’s only natural they donate to the Liars Party.
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott, didn’t she. It was like watching a schoolboy who hasn’t studied being destroyed in an oral exam.
Murphy was the one who recruited Gillard to work at S&G and was her mentor. He also worked with Nanny Roxon at MB. Following is an article on the sticky bits of the recent Murphy appointment.
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott, didn’t she. It was like watching a schoolboy who hasn’t studied being destroyed in an oral exam.
No actually she didn’t. She came off as a testy little schoolgirl who couldn’t get her way. I wish she would actually ask questions of importance. Bring back Uhlmann, at least he’s intelligent and asks probing questions regardless the guest.
s Roxon added that “we expect of journalists and we expect of public debate there to be some standard which is adhered to, and part of that standard is using the professional investigative skills that journalists have to be able to run a credibility ruler over a whole range of allegations that are made”. Editor-in-chief of The Australian Chris Mitchell said: “Ms Roxon’s behaviour on Tuesday in her press conference criticism of the media showed only that many in the media have much higher ethical standards than do some politicians.”
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott, didn’t she. It was like watching a schoolboy who hasn’t studied being destroyed in an oral exam.
Wowee m0nty is really brainless like liar-steve on the other thread:
Weak performance from Abbott on 7.30 tonight.
Here was my response:
Very good performance with an hyper-ideologically partisan aggressive and unpleasant leftist point-scoring in-lieu of questions from Leigh Sales.
She really was about as unpleasant as I’ve ever seen her.
The interview reflected very badly on her
And liar is bloviating thru his arse-end as usual.
LOL. I just read the transcript of Leigh Sales embarrassing herself over what we now know to be the biggest scandal involving a prime minister since Whitlam.
How about this one: After Leigh Sales asked so many times about how Tony Abbott had been loose with the truth, the next interview should be about how he’s loose with his arse!
How about this one: After Leigh Sales asked so many times about how Tony Abbott had been loose with the truth, the next interview should be about how he’s loose with his arse!
Or this one: Leigh Sales called Tony Abbott up on how he keeps lying about asylum seekers being illegal, but doesn’t he also know that selling his arse is illegal?
So she says it was set up for “training”. but in the exit interview/investigation she said it was a “slush fund”.
So when did she realize it was a slush fund and not as stated in the articles of association which she set up for the entity?
And why didn’t she tell her employer when she ascertained it was a slush fund?
JULIA Gillard wrote in a formal application to establish an entity for her then client and boyfriend, union boss Bruce Wilson, that it was being formed for the purpose of achieving safe workplaces.
But during an internal investigation three years later by the partners of her law firm, following serious allegations that the entity had been used by Mr Wilson to misappropriate hundreds of thousands of dollars, Ms Gillard admitted it was a “slush fund” to raise cash for the re-election of union officials.
The discrepancy in the genuine purpose of the entity, the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association, at the time that it was established was not known to the West Australian government agency that had registered it in 1992.
The listed objects of the association, which are set out in the formal rules that were written by Ms Gillard, do not state that the purpose is to fund elections for union officials. The rules instead emphasise purposes including the promotion of safer workplaces and skills training.
In the formal application for the association, Ms Gillard wrote that it was formed for the purpose of “development of changes to work to achieve safe workplaces”.
It can also be revealed that the West Australian government agency responsible for registering such entities questioned whether the union-linked association should be set up under different, more burdensome, legislation that applied to unions.
However, Ms Gillard provided assurances that it was legitimate.
Other documents show that in April 1992, Mr Wilson and Mr Blewitt sent the first invoice, headed AWU Workplace Reform Association, to a construction company, Thiess Contractors, to raise $25,272. This invoice falsely claimed that Thiess was required to pay for the “provision of an AWU Workplace Reform Association representative” to a construction project for some 700 hours. No such representative was ever on site. Many invoices followed.
The association that Ms Gillard established was used by Mr Wilson and Mr Blewitt to allegedly corruptly receive hundreds of thousands of dollars from large companies. At the time, the AWU’s then national leaders, Ian Cambridge and Bill Ludwig, were not made aware of the association’s existence.
Next time Abbott comes on 7:30 to talk about a document, he might want to actually read the document first, you know
Oh – you mean the one issued by a publicly listed company released earlier that day when Tonee was in parliament that Leigh told him she’d ask him about?
You’ve been about as pathetic as I’ve ever seen you yesterday m0nty and the run is continuing into the wee small hours.
Tony Abbott must be really bummed out after that Leigh Sales interview. He got a full reaming… of a journalistic kind, of course. Now he’s in the poo. She drove him batty, boy.
Oh – you mean the one issued by a publicly listed company released earlier that day when Tonee was in parliament that Leigh told him she’d ask him about?
He came on specifically to talk about it. Without having read it. What a maroon.
Or this one: Leigh Sales called Tony Abbott up on how he keeps lying about asylum seekers being illegal, but doesn’t he also know that selling his arse is illegal?
m0nty I understand that you’re an unhealthy fat bastard.
Drugs are particularly unsafe for people in your condition.
Don’t take any more and ask a friend to watch over you for a few hours, just in case.
PRIME Minister Julia Gillard may have breached West Australian corporations law by her involvement in setting up an association for her ex-boyfriend, which he is alleged to have used under the false pretence of improving workplace safety.
It has since been revealed that Ms Gillard told her former employer, law firm Slater & Gordon, in a recorded interview during which she was questioned about the establishment of the association, that she knew it was really set up as an election slush fund…
But the application documents for the association and an advertisement placed in The West Australian newspaper, by the alleged union bagman Ralph Blewitt, stated the association’s purpose was the ”development of changes to work to achieve safe workplaces”.
The penalty for making false and misleading statements under the relevant state-based Associations Incorporation Act is a maximum of $500.
… there have been continuing calls for Ms Gillard to explain, including from former Fairfax radio presenter Michael Smith, one of two journalists who lost their jobs for pursuing the affair last year, on how she might have participated in the deception of the Corporate Affairs Commissioner in Western Australia.
Ms Gillard has been caught up in a widening scandal about the slush fund known as the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association Inc, allegedly used by ex-boyfriend and union organiser Bruce Wilson to scam hundreds of thousands of dollars from construction companies. Ms Gillard has denied any knowledge that the fund was used to scam the construction companies.
I remember subsequently being at a cross party, women’s function some event where Labor women and Liberal women were and a woman who had worked in Phil Gude’s office at the time and subsequently turned out to go to state Parliament herself sort of came up to me and almost didn’t quite but almost apologised to me for the raising of these allegations which she said she now knew to be untrue, but she was keen for me to understand that a Labor source had given them to Phil Gude and that was why Phil Gude had used them
Since the 2008 election, American conservatism has been in a struggle to define itself. Now the selection of Paul Ryan as Mitt Romney’s vice presidential candidate is helping to resolve that struggle.
For years, the political left has tagged conservatives as out-of-touch anarcho-capitalists, all while enjoying a Republican party that, in reality, has demanded little more than a marginally more efficient administration of the welfare state than what the Democrats want. Conservatives have tried in vain to find a voice that refutes both caricature and reality.
Now, Paul Ryan has found what may be the right approach, and Mitt Romney has installed it at the center of the Republican party before it is too late to save the country from a European-style debt crisis.
The role of the Attorney is unique within Government: protecting our legal frameworks, supporting our judiciary, leading Government legal action and advice, and strengthening national and personal security in a rapidly changing world.
And while many do remark of the diversity of this position, I do see a clear theme across my portfolio – one of fairness.
After all, we create laws to protect and help people.
It will be in the spirit of fairness – a fair and just Australia…
So how is she creating a fair and just Australia by supporting a PM that she knows to be a party to a fraud to steal workers’ money?
Lets just recap, the last two Attorney Generals in this country have both supported a PM they know to be corrupt. Heck of a job Nicola and Robert. Filth, the lot of them.
The Royal Commission into this is going to be a hoot that keeps us occupied for years. Already we are getting a glimpse of the colorful characters who will appear like Chook Fowler in the Royal Commission. Bring it on.
Paul Howes is busy implementing his zero tolerance jihad on Union corruption. Right now he is investigating rumours that Tony Abbott scammed a free beer from an AWU member during a visit to a factory that coincided with Friday evening beers. Piggy Howes has also heard rumours that Joe Hockey is in on the scam and often has TWO beers.
So now you’re up at 6am screaming your hatred of the next prime minister, troll. Have you booked your bus ticket to the 2013 Canberra burning, yet? Fuck off, scum.
Are you by any chance Wayne Swan? I usually read or listen to both sides of an argument, but after wading through the drivel you have recently posted, I think I’ll just skip over your posts from now on.
Conroy tries to polish Gillard’s turd but it falls apart in his hands on Sunrise this morning.
How many times when confronted with the facts did he obscurate and blame the Liberal Party.
The more the media squeezes more pus seems to come out.
I’ve just seen the 7.30 interview. The zombies reckon Abbott got rolled? Remembering the sole purpose of the interview was to foster hatred of Abbott to distract from the fact that a hugely unpopular government appears to be disintegrating, he did a sterling job of not being railroaded. There are virtually no media opportunities where Abbott doesn’t have to endure interviewers who can barely conceal their personal hatred of him (Leigh Sales being one of the worst), even though he will be prime minister of the next national government. I’ve never seen anything like it in Australian politics. The story is what the media are doing.
I note that on the front page of the West Australian Newspaper that the WA government of the day gave more than $380,000 of taxpayers money to Julia’s an Bruce’s “slush fund”. uh oh…
I find it interesting that the luvvie rags finally started ‘talking’ about GillardGate, AFTER Pickering posted this:
ADVICE TO THE PRIME MINISTER:
Do not answer any questions!
Under no circumstances answer any question from anyone, including Paul Kelly. Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.
You know there is much material yet to be released: Transcripts, tapes, signed statements, affidavits, the evidence of Blewitt, Wilson’s media deal, McClelland, Cambridge, a Federal Court Judge, former partners, colleagues and associates, the AWU, the Law Institute, Vic Police FOI material and much more.
You cannot possibly know the extent of what will be presented as corroborated evidence. Get one thing wrong and you will be mercilessly beaten all the way to the gallows with it.
Keep stonewalling them Prime Minister. You are on a hiding to nothing… unless of course you want to tell the entire truth. But that would be a silly and uncharacteristic thing to do.
Oh dear, silly me! Fancy teaching you to suck eggs when your army of well-paid minders would have already advised you of that.
Anyway, just hang in there, mate. It might all go away.
According to a 1996 affidavit filed in the NSW Industrial Relations Court when the scandal became public, $385,000 (given to the AWU Workplace Reform Association) was WA government money that had been provided to construction company Thiess Contractors “for the financing of training schemes and were intended to be spent by the union for that purpose”.
Thiess was the biggest contributor to the association between 1992 and 1994 but refused to lay a complaint when WA fraud squad detectives began an investigation into what Mr Wilson and his WA union colleague Ralph Blewitt did with the money.
I hope the Love Media keep up their old tricks as they are just making everything worse for Gillard.
Phil Coorey tries to run defense for Gillard by attacking the character of Blewitt and all he does is prove that Gillard really does live up to the old saying that you can judge a person by the company she keeps.
RALPH BLEWITT, the former union official who wants to give evidence about the alleged rorting involving Julia Gillard’s former boyfriend, fled Indonesia in 2009 to avoid arrest after allegedly selling Australian expatriates land he did not own.
One couple, Deborah and Paul Storck, told the Herald from Lombok yesterday that Mr Blewitt still owed them $190,000 for land they thought they had purchased on Gili Gede, Lombok.
”He’s not a credible fellow,” Mrs Storck said. ”Be wary of anything he says. He still owes us a lot of money. Who does he think he is to bring up stuff from 17 years ago?
One problem here Phil. If this man is so dodgy, why did Gillard feel comfortable breaking WA law and set up a Workplace Association with just 2 names on it instead of the required # – Blewitt & Wilson?
By the way, did Coorey just tell us another unexpected truth here or did he cock up?
The Fitzroy house was bought in Mr Blewitt’s name, even though he did not have the assets to finance the purchase, and it was Mr Wilson who lived in it. Ms Gillard did the conveyancing work. Ms Gillard has always denied any knowledge of, or role in, illegal behaviour and none has been shown. Her former partners say an internal inquiry uncovered no legal wrongdoing.
Is it true that Gillard did the conveyancing? THAT is NEW information.
If so, what documents did she get her hands on about the ownership of the property through the process?
I can smell a goldmine of information here.
To restate some questions I came up with yesterday which would be lovely to find out:
What documentation did S&G require for the finances?
* Did S&G they see evidence of the inital deposit?
* What bank account was the money for the deposit drawn against (i.e. the Association)?
If S&G did the conveyancing, they would’ve needed to see the cheque that paid the deposit for the purchase. They would’ve got a payment for the stamp duty.
What was the name of the bank account that those cheques were drawn from? If the property is to go in a private name and the bank account is not the is not the same name, checks on the details need to be made.
They would need to ensure they understand who owns the property to assess whether stamp duty is payable…
Of course, the fact that Australia now has one of the most hostile regimes on earth for business has nothing to do with it:
Kloppers said the project never actually jumped the hurdle called “economic concept”, which meant BHP was never able to talk seriously with a potential Chinese partner to develop the world’s largest uranium deposit and fourth largest copper and gold deposit.
As it turns out, the Chinese have been shifting their resources investment focus from Australia to Africa and central Asia. The Chinese have been less active in Australia recently because of strong competition from other destinations, their history with the Foreign Investment Review Board, the mining tax and issues around infrastructure, according to the national vice-president of the Australia China Business Council, Ian McCubbin
So the taxpayers gave money to a wealthy construction company to give to a union slush fund.
I have a little knowledge through associates about the Anzac frigate process in the 1990′s and I suggest a thorough audit of that multi-billion dollar project would reveal similar training-funds come slush-funds.
Thiess was the biggest contributor to the association between 1992 and 1994 but refused to lay a complaint when WA fraud squad detectives began an investigation into what Mr Wilson and his WA union colleague Ralph Blewitt did with the money.
Just from memory I think there was a relationship (brother in law or something) between the Theiss employee interviewed by the police about Theiss contributions and Blewitt and the Theiss employee said he did not believe any fraud had occurred
Maybe someone else has a better memory
I did watch the 7.30 report and also think Abbott did well
And the guy in charge of Thiess at the time was Wilson’s brother in law was he not?
Helped launder the government funds and then refused to file a complaint.
What incestuous scum.
WA government can now bring a case against Thiess for defrauding the government.
Yes you could. And SBS with it. Swan’s budget legacy would present an incoming Coalition Govt with the rationale for acting, also. My fear is that Abbott will continue to front up at the ABC to be harranged by the frothing at the mouth crew and continue to fund it as normal.
Seems like everyone in the cabinet owns a little bit of Gillard due to her past:
FEDERAL Attorney-General Nicola Roxon did sensitive legal work as a solicitor for the Australian Workers Union during a formal probe that followed a criminal investigation and the acrimonious departure of Julia Gillard from Slater & Gordon.
With the skeletons she has in her closet it is clear she would stay bought.
My fear is that Abbott will continue to front up at the ABC to be harranged by the frothing at the mouth crew and continue to fund it as normal.
Consider it done. The next Media Minister will probably be Opposition media spokesman Malcolm Turnbull, a sustainability zombie promoting Green dollar schemes for the banking industry, who will set out to protect the ABC’s ability to pump out wall-to-wall Green propaganda unchallenged.
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott…
No she was just hostile.
I remember the furor from the luvvie media when Mike Smith on 4BC put Gillard on the back foot by refusing to let her lie about about East Timor (listen to the classic interview at this link).
That is how you wipe the floor with an inept interviewee.
BTW, when you listen to the interview you can understand why Gillard is too scared to have an real interviewer like Smith and sought to get him sacked.
Good work mOron. Doing the ALP thing – attacking Abbott when the luvvies have been exposed as dishonest, fraudulent and possibly criminal. Played perfectly to the script. So all your talk was just shit talk last night. Go and hit that SW a full 50 metres you cretin.
Paul Howes is busy implementing his zero tolerance jihad on Union corruption.
It’s like what you experience with children, when they are quiet for a long time you know they are up to something bad…
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is working to transfer the house into a Workplace Association or similar considering more than one person has lost their job due to the carbin tax…
Shorten, Trio, Roxon, Gillard, Ludwig, Wilson, Williamson, Thomson, Jackson and Blewitt are all crooks.
They are all guilty of serious indictable offences.
Still think I’m gonna get sued, dumbarse?
JULIA Gillard wrote in a formal application to establish an entity for her then client and boyfriend, union boss Bruce Wilson, that it was being formed for the purpose of achieving safe workplaces.
But during an internal investigation three years later by the partners of her law firm, following serious allegations that the entity had been used by Mr Wilson to misappropriate hundreds of thousands of dollars, Ms Gillard admitted it was a “slush fund” to raise cash for the re-election of union officials.
Boom. Fraud.
The Fitzroy house was bought in Mr Blewitt’s name, even though he did not have the assets to finance the purchase, and it was Mr Wilson who lived in it. Ms Gillard did the conveyancing work. Ms Gillard has always denied any knowledge of, or role in, illegal behaviour and none has been shown. Her former partners say an internal inquiry uncovered no legal wrongdoing.
As Token sez:
If S&G did the conveyancing, they would’ve needed to see the cheque that paid the deposit for the purchase. They would’ve got a payment for the stamp duty.
What was the name of the bank account that those cheques were drawn from? If the property is to go in a private name and the bank account is not the is not the same name, checks on the details need to be made.
They would need to ensure they understand who owns the property to assess whether stamp duty is payable…
Boom. Tax evasion.
Mr Nowicki has also enlisted the Victorian barrister and former head of the National Crime Authority, Peter Faris, QC, and asked him to review the details of the case, and the role of Slater & Gordon. The report will be given to the Law Institute of Victoria.
Mr Nowicki has been using freedom of information to get access to the police files about the investigations into the fraud.
The documents show that West Australian police wanted to prosecute the men for the fraud but were thwarted because they could not get the company they believed to be the biggest victim, Thiess Contracting, to agree to file a police complaint.
The head of Thiess at the time was Mr Wilson’s brother-in-law, Joe Trio, and the documents show that he told police he did not believe the company had been defrauded.
Mr Trio comes in for some serious allegations in Pickering’s Post, but he told The Sun-Herald last week he was at the moment ignoring it as just the ravings of union thugs.
Boom tick. Intimidation, unwarranted demands and perverting the course of justice.
monty – tell us now – will you go to gaol as well when this all clears up?
I suspect Mann’s case against Ball is going to collapse for the same reason.
Steyn and others will no doubt take note of how Mann’s prevarications over Ball suggest he has finally realized he’s dug himself a humungous hole. I’m one of many who believes the Mann-v- Ball case will turn out to be a watershed moment for Mann. It’s most likely he will be compelled by the court to disclose his “dirty laundry” (as Mann, himself, refers to his hidden data in his Climategate email). If the hidden numbers are as bad as skeptics suggest then none of his friends in high places can save him.
Link
O’Sullivan has been a major supporter of Ball ever since Mann sued him.
Then there’s the ABC’s weekly forgettory, Media Watch, with its modus operandi of bias by omission. The ABC is a blind eye factory masquerading as a media organisation.
Also, somewhat bizarrely, Catallaxian residents continue to call for the ABC to be privatised, despite it being the one media outlet where Catallaxy bloggers get regular exposure on the Drum, both on the internet and TV, as well as Radio National.
I think Sinclair has been on the Bolt Report once?
But they think privatising will help expose the ideas of the Right?
Shorten, Trio, Roxon, Gillard, Ludwig, Wilson, Williamson, Thomson, Jackson and Blewitt are all crooks.
They are all guilty of serious indictable offences.
And yet after 17 years of supposedly criminal behaviour, not one of them has ever been arrested. Perhaps you should become a policeman, Dennis Dotto, because as a lawyer you are a complete failure.
Your only defence to libel is that this blog is so obscure that there aren’t enough people reading it for the reputations of these people to be materially besmirched.
Your only defence to libel is that this blog is so obscure that there aren’t enough people reading it for the reputations of these people to be materially besmirched.
My defence to libel is the truth, monty.
Fraud, tax evasion, intimidation, unwarranted demands and perverting the course of justice.
But they think privatising will help expose the ideas of the Right?
No. Collectively ABC journos and editorial staff should be regarded as morally no better than pickpockets. If they want to propogandise on behalf of the left in breach of the ABC charter they should pay for it themselves. There’s no guarantee that a buyer would provide impartial coverage but it would be their money not taxpayers.
Also, somewhat bizarrely, Catallaxian residents continue to call for the ABC to be privatised, despite it being the one media outlet where Catallaxy bloggers get regular exposure on the Drum, both on the internet and TV, as well as Radio National.
Name one conservative presenter on one major ABC news, current affairs or political analysis show who is conservative, liar-steve™
You can talk about it all you like, Keith. It is boring, repetitive and a right wing fantasy game involving lesbian jail scenes, but if you think that makes you relevant, go ahead.
And yet after 17 years of supposedly criminal behaviour, not one of them has ever been arrested.
As more of this story comes to light my concern is that the whole thing is ‘too big to fail’. Too many people in high places, with way too much to lose. Makes a cover-up all the more important, desperate and necessary.
“The ice loss that we see today — the ice loss that started in the early 20th Century and sped up during the last 30 years — appears to be unmatched over at least the last few thousand years,” said Leonid Polyak, a research scientist at Byrd Polar Research Center at Ohio State University. Polyak is lead author of the paper and a preceding report that he and his coauthors prepared for the U.S. Climate Change Science Program.
Not that you’re really interested, Old Fridgee. You’ve already decided.
You probably didn’t click on the last link I gave anyway before swinging in with your rubbish.
So boring in fact that you engaged in alternatively smearing commenters here, attempting to change the subject or deliberately misconstruing the facts yesterday. And this all happened after you declared the topic “boring” at about 10am.
I guess we can expect another day of your prurient drivel.
candy, quite frankly, if you don’t take an interest in climate change, you are being irresponsible for your descendants too. Although you sound young enough to see serious problems develop.
Its always important to remember what has been predicted by the elders of science, and to review those predictions when the time is right. In four months, just 132 days from now at the end of summer on the Autumnal Equinox September 22nd 2012, the Arctic will be “nearly ice free” according to a prominent NASA scientist in a National Geographic article on December 12, 2007. That is also the same article in which the future NSIDC director made himself famous with this quote:
Why is it that Leigh Sales on the 730 report badgers Tony Abbott about what answers he should ask Julia Gillard about her past and other dubious activities?
Surely Leigh Sales should ask those questions directly herself to Julia Gillard.Perhaps she afraid to do do because of the consequences of retribution as has happened to others who have been brave enough to ask the questions Leigh inferred Tony Abbott would ask of Julia Gillard..
Perhaps the ABC 730 Report is more into channeling through others for answers than its own weak investigative reporting.
Not that you’re really interested, Old Fridgee. You’ve already decided.
You probably didn’t click on the last link I gave anyway before swinging in with your rubbish.
You know you are right! I have already decided not to listen to alarmist bullshit propaganda from fucking idiots like you!
Anyway answer the question why should we be worried, or do you just like spouting alarmists statements for comedic affect?
Secondly what do you make of covering the Barrier Reef with shade cloth to save it from AGW, another idea straight from the annuls of the AGW book of great ideas and solutions to problems that don’t exist?
Yeah blogstrop. I suppose listening to Lawyer Dot maintain his birther-like obsession with how a half dozen Labor identities are going to jail for events 20 years ago is a very credible and useful use of pixels.
Dot, I find it interesting that the m0nster is trying to bait you into saying something “libellous” about Shorten, yet he makes no mention of your continued statements that Gillard is a crook and will be going to jail.
Surely if the fat ones aim is to have legal action taken against you, that is a tacit admission on his behalf that yes, the lying slapper is in fact a crook.
Yeah blogstrop. I suppose listening to Lawyer Dot maintain his birther-like obsession with how a half dozen Labor identities are going to jail for events 20 years ago is a very credible and useful use of pixels.
What a fucking joke.
These are very serious matters.
Several ALP Ministers, including the PM are guilty of several dishonesty, tax evasion and justice offences, all of which are indictable.
You think you can stop this by making stupid off the cuff remarks on a blog?
How much is Sussex St paying you?
I suppose the SMH which we quote as a source have a “birther like obsession” as well?
JamesK: one scientist’s off the cuff prediction stated to the media does not “climate science” make.
LOL!
Liar just quoted a ‘scientific’ article with the headline: Arctic Death Spiral: How It Favors Extreme, Prolonged Weather Events ‘Such As Drought, Flooding, Cold Spells And Heat Waves’ published on leftist insanity site ‘Think Progress’
no one was charged because Shorten (according to Pickering) and Trio have perverted the course of justice.
LOL, that’s all you’ve got. What about Roxon, Ludwig, Williamson, Thomson and Jackson, what about their justice? How big are you alleging the conspiracy is?
On the ‘slush fund’. Even without the diverting of money to Wilson, this ‘slush fund’ and the process of filling it with money, would appear to meet the US definition of racketeering.
Tony Abbott and his team could do worse than look at the anti racketeering legislation in the US and apply it where relevant to Australia. They have legislation specific to racketeering within the labor/union movement. This indicates that the practice is not isolated, but so widespread it is international.
Lol after days of defence this morning poor old SfB and m0nty are broken.
Now that even the Age is in on it it’s clear that Gillard is absolutely finished.
Expect to see someone not overtly connected with the unions rising on an ALP “reform” and “rooting-out-corruption” platform – whether they actually do that is another story but it’s what the ALP will sell to the public.
LOL, that’s all you’ve got. What about Roxon, Ludwig, Williamson, Thomson and Jackson, what about their justice? How big are you alleging the conspiracy is?
Jackson is accused of criminal behaviour all of her own.
It’s a foil, but she’s part of the whole corrupt movement (not to mention the intimidation of her, possibly as a crown witness).
It’s not “all I’ve got” dickhead.
I’ve shown you documented examples of fraud, tax evasion, intimidation, unwarranted demands, perverting the course of justice, embezzlement and receive and handle stolen monies.
Now fuck off and discredit the accusations made on the SMH which I’ve quoted as a source, you pathetic turd.
An ice free arctic might reduce shipping costs of US LNG to Europe. And tree growth rates of the vast Russian and Canadian forests will go up a bit. All good news!
Sex Discrimination Commissioner calls for more gentle, kind and lesbian ADF:
The Sex Discrimination Commissioner, Elizabeth Broderick, wants the ADF to fundamentally rethink the way it selects its leaders. She wants to temper the warrior culture that traditionally sees the most senior officers in army, navy and airforce come from backgrounds in combat or command. And she wants to open up more ‘’gateways’’ to the top Defence jobs from other areas within the military such as logistics, human services and health, where the 14 per cent of the ADF who are female tend to be clustered.
In the US they manage to convict union bosses for racketeering. We cant even get ours into court to answer any charges. I think their legislation is worth a look.
I’ve shown you documented examples of fraud, tax evasion, intimidation, unwarranted demands, perverting the course of justice, embezzlement and receive and handle stolen monies.
None of which have come anywhere close to being charged, Mr Dotto. Face it Dennis, you’re a failure as a lawyer and a detective.
But by all means, keep inventing new crimes to accuse people of. It’s highly entertaining.
7.30 host Leigh Sales sure makes clear her contempt for Tony Abbott with her sighs, eye rolling, exasperated tone and hand-waving. But the increasingly shrill tone seems to suggest her anger is not with his bad answers but with his good ones, because they fail to confirm her startlingly obvious prejudices.
Over the five decades since the success of Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring in 1962 and the four decades since the success of the Club of Rome’s The Limits to Growth in 1972, prophecies of doom on a colossal scale have become routine. Indeed, we seem to crave ever-more-frightening predictions—we are now, in writer Gary Alexander’s word, apocaholic. The past half century has brought us warnings of population explosions, global famines, plagues, water wars, oil exhaustion, mineral shortages, falling sperm counts, thinning ozone, acidifying rain, nuclear winters, Y2K bugs, mad cow epidemics, killer bees, sex-change fish, cell-phone-induced brain-cancer epidemics, and climate catastrophes.
ShitFerBrains, the dole-bludger who sits at home writing a courageously anonymous blog that has no readers, defies his own stupidity and dutifully sacrifices his time for the academic grant miners whon depend on idiots like him to keep talking up their bank accounts.
Guffaw! I said no such thing, Lazlo. But the interest in movements in the Northern jet stream is what is getting most research interest, and has a more direct effect on areas of large population.
None of which have come anywhere close to being charged, Mr Dotto. Face it Dennis, you’re a failure as a lawyer and a detective.
They haven’t been charged yet. So what? There is NO statute of limitations for serious indictable offences.
But by all means, keep inventing new crimes to accuse people of. It’s highly entertaining.
I’m not inventing crimes at all. I’m reading the ones off the books from WA mainly, as well as the Federal tax laws, and putting my own NSW spin on things for the dishonesty that occurred in Vic.
“Fraud, perverting the course of justice, tax evasion…invented crimes”
Let this mornings revelation that even Roxon touched this be the official point where it’s recognized that the “labor movement” is at best a mafiosi style “family” and at worst a sect.
I mean seriously, there’s so few lawyers in Australia that one of Gillards front bench just happened to also work on the Wilson scandal 17 years ago? And Gillards old boss who “resigned” with her now sits on the High Court after being appointed by her? And the man who wanted a royal commission into the matter now sits on the board at FWA – also appointed by her?
The corruption, the inter-marrying, the “youth camps”, the appointments, the lifelong back scratching of an inner circle elite. The total protection offered to that same elite. The total control of it’s political arm by some shadowy untouchable cabal.
There’s nothing like it anywhere else in Australian politics – not even the secretive Greens.
JULIA Gillard’s former law firm Slater & Gordon has been a generous donor to the Labor Party over the past 14 years, handing a total of $443,000 to the party’s federal and state branches since 1998.
In addition, the firm’s managing director, Andrew Grech, donated $15,000 to federal Labor on August 30, 2010, a week after the federal election, when the Prime Minister and Tony Abbott were trying to woo the independents to form government.
Rival firm Maurice Blackburn has donated a similar amount, contributing $421,000 to Labor’s state and federal branches since 1998, according to the Australian Electoral Commission.
Maurice Blackburn is the firm to which the Prime Minister’s former supervising partner, Bernard Murphy, moved in 1995 after resigning from Slater & Gordon.
It is also the firm at which federal Attorney-General Nicola Roxon worked from 1996 to 1998.
Tom and Tim Blair are quoting Matt Ridley, a journalist, who is throwing babies out with the bathwater.
The superciliousness of Ridley’s article is obvious – many of the things he listed were perfectly real and serious issues, many of which were addressing by serious Right wing politicians.
I worked as an employed solicitor with a Labor / union law firm in the late 1990′s and in the course of acting for a major union client uncovered by chance what can only be described as a slush fund. Chief item was a used chequebook with no details recorded on the cheque butts.
Let’s all remember that up until just last week SfB was hysterically and confidently denouncing this as a “non story” that nobody would ever care about or run.
Now he’s made a strategic retreat to “it’s not going to finish her”.
In one, two, three cue that fucking moronic dipshit SfB with another terrifying prediction…
Remember people, accoring to SoB will be in full swing this time next year, or maybe it won’t…
steve from brisbane
16 Aug 12 at 7:07 pm
…Furthermore, we are quite likely headed to a clear new all time global warming high within the next 12 months. (I could be wrong, but it will at least go close, barring volcanoes or meteor strike.) The reality of global warming, and the need to take it seriously, is going to be increasingly hard to deny, even for you lot. This means your hope of Abbott going all Boltian on you and rejecting any action at all will not be a credible option. You may as well give up that hope now.
…or maybe it will by 2015, or maybe it won’t…
steve from brisbane
16 Aug 12 at 7:16 pm
IT, I predict even you will change. I would guess within 2 – 3 years.
He’s a very believable fellow that man Steve from Brisbane.
Someone asked how far do we think the corruption in the unions and the ALP goes. I suspect it reaches every nook and cranny of the labour movement. I know some decent people who are rusted onto the ALP, thanks to the delinquency of the MSM and the human capacity for selective vision they have stood by without doing anything about it for decades. Fair enough in a way, what chance do isolated voices have to fix anything in a movement that is so tribal even among the educated and intellectual, and so vicious in the lower reaches where it connects with the criminal underworld.
Let’s all remember that up until just last week SfB was hysterically and confidently denouncing this as a “non story” that nobody would ever care about or run.
There is a statute of limitations on libel, however. So you’ve got to wait three years for the danger to pass. Good luck with that.
Oh I’m shitting myself, Minty.
The union movement will love it if one of their own defends themselves from accusations other have made, and they have to air their dirty laundry so Holy Billy gets to clear himself.
I’m guessing the chances of that are as high as Gillard’s not guilty verdict in an upcoming fraud case.
I worked as an employed solicitor with a Labor / union law firm in the late 1990′s and in the course of acting for a major union client uncovered by chance what can only be described as a slush fund. Chief item was a used chequebook with no details recorded on the cheque butts.
Is there any lawyer in the country who hasn’t come across ALP / union corruption in the course of their work?
Someone asked how far do we think the corruption in the unions and the ALP goes. I suspect it reaches every nook and cranny of the labour movement. I know some decent people who are rusted onto the ALP, thanks to the delinquency of the MSM and the human capacity for selective vision they have stood by without doing anything about it for decades. Fair enough in a way, what chance do isolated voices have to fix anything in a movement that is so tribal even among the educated and intellectual, and so vicious in the lower reaches where it connects with the criminal underworld.
I’ve seen some pretty dodgy (cough cough) consultancy for the union movement from a firm which is too heavily tied in with the NSW ALP’s main donors.
I think Ms Gillard is safe in her position unless she is charged by the police for something, and that seems terribly unlikely, however I know absolutely zilch about legal stuff.
There won’t be any government investigation because Ms Gillard and p. Howes won’t let that happen.
And who would go to the police and press charges about the prime minister’s dicey doings? How does that work?
As more of this story comes to light my concern is that the whole thing is ‘too big to fail’. Too many people in high places, with way too much to lose. Makes a cover-up all the more important, desperate and necessary.
Too right Ellen, it seems like the current generation of the Australian Brahman class all have a stake in making sure this is surpressed (which like Justice Murphy & others extends into the judiciary).
Let this mornings revelation that even Roxon touched this be the official point where it’s recognized that the “labor movement” is at best a mafiosi style “family” and at worst a sect.
Australia’s Tammany Hall. I remember Labor cheerleaders insisting it was a “NSW problem only” not so long ago. Obama doing the best Tammany impersonation in the U.S. since its formal demise, btw.
Landeryou thinks Blewitt might be a sex tourist too.
Ah the Liar’s Party and the Union movement, where you meet a better class of criminal sociopath.
Wow, and people like this were allowed to get into the very highest positions in the Trade Union Movement?
It is clear Australia desperately needs a royal commission with terms of reference set by the incoming Abbott government to address the serious concern of both corruption and other matters by senior Trade Union leadership and their associates!
Thommo uses the union credit card funded by janitors and orderlies on $200k of hookers and $100k of cash withdrawals, and you’ve got to say is “da IPA take your money and spend it in da boardroom”
You fucking turkey.
Remember Williamson was caught RED HANDED by the NSW fraud squad trying to destroy and conceal documents.
None of which have come anywhere close to being charged, Mr Dotto. Face it Dennis, you’re a failure as a lawyer and a detective.
They haven’t been charged yet. So what? There is NO statute of limitations for serious indictable offences.
This is a non issue. It was noted by Philip Ruddock (former Australian AG) that the Federal AG has the right to override Statute of Limitation on any matter they choose.
He used this power while in the position during the Howard government to pursue some matters the Labor Party thought they could hush up.
Thus, all these matters can and will be addressed by the relevant Minister in the incoming Abbott government.
Fairfax Media losses ballooned to $2.7 billion as the media company took a major write-down of the value of its mastheads as part of its corporate overhaul.
The net loss, which included a non-cash impairment charge of $2.79 billion, seven times the loss of $390 million for the year earlier, the company said. The charge halved the value of intangibles and goodwill on the company’s balance sheet.
Earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation totalled $506 million in the year to June 30, down 16.7 per cent.
The company said sales for fiscal 2013 had started out 10 per cent below a year ago.
Has anyone seen, or got a copy of the bank statements of the reform organisation?
It would be nice to see who paid in, and the disbursements of the slush fund.
“As more of this story comes to light my concern is that the whole thing is ‘too big to fail’. Too many people in high places, with way too much to lose. Makes a cover-up all the more important, desperate and necessary.”
Ellen of Tasmania, that’s what got me about Pickering’s rather cheeky, “Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.“, and maybe not too cryptic post.
SIT! SPEAK! SHUT UP! DROP! BEG!
It’s like watching the Kennel Master prepare the pack for a visit from The Lord of The Manor, before they decide on the final cull.
And then there’s that constant worry of 17 years worth of long ago forgotten, “former partners, colleagues and associates“, and countless others who could never forget crossing paths with them.
What mementos did they keep?
Where have they been?
Who have they seen?
Where are they now?…
“ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!” “DO NOT MAKE ANY STATEMENTS!”
ROLL OVER! PLAY DEAD!
FETCH! GOOD DOG! …and the bad dogs and mongrel curs, well, it’s a one way hunting trip for them…
Wow, Bolta has link to a SMH article in 1996 (remember when they did real journalism) with some extra facts that are very interesting!!!!
Indeed, says Thiess, the Government paid it money for an employee training program at a $58 million Thiess construction project and it then paid the AWU. But once in union hands, it seems, the funds went walkabout when the AWU branch in WA was crying poor and running up a debt with head office approaching $1 million.
It is now known that nearly $220,000 was withdrawn using about 40 cash cheques, ranging from $4,000 to $50,000.
Exactly where all the money ended up is far from clear. The man who should know, a former top official, Mr Bruce Wilson, says it is all “old hat stuff” and he has “nothing to say”.
However, two of the so-called “WA Inc” accounts were finally emptied in April last year, when about $46,000 was paid into an even more mysterious Perth-based account called the Construction Industry Fund. It, too, is understood to have been closed this year and may have no legal connection to the union.
A cheque made out to the “Slater and Gordon Trust Account” was dated five days before the firm arranged settlement on the $230,000 property.
The “Transfer of Land” document was signed by Mr Blewitt’s “attorney” for the purchase, his then boss, Mr Wilson, whose signature also appears to be on the dozens of cheques from the “WA Inc” accounts.
Who did Phil Coorey in the SMH today note did the conveyancing on that transaction?
John Comnenus, seeing how far these tentacles of corruption reach, I am beginning to wonder if there is anyone who could be trusted to run a Royal Commission into union corruption. Can you think of anyone who is untainted?
No peer reviewed literature supports such causation.
Lazlo, you are completely wrong.
There has even been a paper co-authored by skeptic hero Judith Curry:
The paper, titled “Impact of declining Arctic sea ice on winter snowfall”, was published on Feb. 27, 2012 in the online early edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. “Our study demonstrates that the decrease in Arctic sea ice area is linked to changes in the winter Northern Hemisphere atmospheric circulation, said Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech, in a press release. “The circulation changes result in more frequent episodes of atmospheric blocking patterns, which lead to increased cold surges and snow over large parts of the northern continents.”
The increasing widely held view – as noted in several peer reviewed papers – is that reduced Arctic ice induced jet stream changes can mean sudden big dumps of snow, as well as blocking patterns keeping heat waves in place.
Just admit it – you don’t know what you are talking about.
The Australian economy is suffering seriously due to an overvalued dollar, IT.
It’s not over valued at all. The US dollar and the Euro just aint worth shit any more.
LOL
SoB, if you read (and understood) those articles on Say’s Law and similar topics Steve Kates & Rafe posts, you wouldn’t post such monumentally stupid statements on what is fundementally an economics blog.
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott, didn’t she. It was like watching a schoolboy who hasn’t studied being destroyed in an oral exam.
Yep – can’t believe he went on the program knowing he would be asked about BHP and hadn’t even bothered to read the statement released by BHP as to why they were cancelling the project.
And why is Abbott so reticent about publicly stating even just one question or allegation about what Gillard did 17 years ago? Trying to keep some distance and deniability in case it all blows up like UteGate?
And why is Abbott so reticent about publicly stating even just one question or allegation about what Gillard did 17 years ago?
This is a Labor Party fight, the Libs are not invited.
Let’s recap again for the slow kids. Labor member McClelland (and former Gillard government AG) read a statement in June about the matter that started the events rolling.
Ian Cambridge (former AWU top official & judge) has a statement on the record which he chooses not to retract demanding a royal commission.
And why is Abbott so reticent about publicly stating even just one question or allegation about what Gillard did 17 years ago?
Because he knows the three-second grab would be used in news reports the next day, and he wants to keep his message on the carbon tax instead. But he failed anyway.
A nice piece of meteorological research sfb, proper science. Note that it is about influences on snowfall (it’s in the title). There is nothing about heatwaves. You are drawing that inference for dramatic alarmist effect.
Oh, and there is nothing in the paper about CO2. Shame about that..
So funny to read. In three days this story has gone from being the ravings of a nutty cartoonist to the main story on across all media.
And, so the defense, ‘nothing to see here’ line is quietly shelved, we’re all supposed to start arguing about Arctic sea ice extent.
The Klaxon has gone off, and the Labor faithful are everywhere – posting, smearing, obfuscating, anything to try and knock this story back. But it’s turning into a feeding frenzy. The stopper cannot be put back in. There are too many people to sue, too many people to threaten. Editors want the scoop. They know it sells papers and spikes ratings.
Wilson is negotiating a deal to spill all. Probably on 60 minutes, at the least on Current Affair. Imagine the ratings!
The stupid Labor operatives are now turning their guns on Blewitt. He’s a sleazeball. A low life. He even hates the carbon tax!
They fail to realise that this is a person Julia Gillard not only trusted to be the head of her sham association, but she also lent him the money to buy the Kerr st house, obviously with no credit checks. But that’s OK, because Julia knew (and I quote)
“He had worked here for the Timber Workers Union. He’d sort of chugged that in, cashed that up and usually union officials are worth a fair bit when they leave one union and go to another.”
So by all means, people, tear Blewitt a new one. He’s a former union official, demonstrably corrupt, who Julia trusted enough to form an association and issue a mortgage with no credit checks. Yes, that’s a really sound line of attack.
IT, Whinging Aussies like you (I’m sure you have whinging pom genes in you) of course help hurt the economy by not taking your holidays here.
Oh I’m sorry but I like my holidays to be full of fun, frivolity and excitement. Filling out forms in triplicate before I can have a shit after drinking 2 beers than cost me $30 served by a surly whippersnapper who was updating his Facebook while taking my order is not my bag.
“And why is Abbott so reticent about publicly stating even just one question or allegation about what Gillard did 17 years ago?”
bedause it’s about Ms Gillard – a woman – and Coalition have to be oh so careful about what they say about a woman. The ALP and some journalists take it very badly and need to protect her.
Next instalment for Bolta, the WA government has to act now as it looks like the paper trail indicates public money is linked to the pot of money which Gillard referred to as a “Slush Fund”:
Surely this needs the proper investigation it didn’t seem to get at the time, given what taxpayers have lost:
The West Australian can reveal that more than $380,000 of State Government money was given to a union “association” that Ms Gillard helped establish on behalf of her then boyfriend Bruce Wilson.
When she was questioned by her employers at law firm Slater & Gordon in 1995 over her role in setting up the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association, Ms Gillard said she understood its purpose was to hold a union re-election “slush fund”.
According to a 1996 affidavit filed in the NSW Industrial Relations Court when the scandal became public, $385,000 was WA government money that had been provided to construction company Thiess Contractors “for the financing of training schemes and were intended to be spent by the union for that purpose”.
Hey IT, do you think that impressive Premier you have over there will pull his finger out over this?
IT, Whinging Aussies like you (I’m sure you have whinging pom genes in you) of course help hurt the economy by not taking your holidays here.
Why would anyone holiday in Australia? It’s overpriced and the service is universally poor. The good parts of the country you’re not allowed to touch, and good luck in finding a hotel on a waterfront with it’s own beach.
I’m universally disappointed every time I try and enjoy travel in Australia.
The only holidays in Australia worth having is where you tow your accomodation, entertainment and supplies with you, as far away as possible from red tape and crappy service.
And who would go to the police and press charges about the prime minister’s dicey doings? How does that work?
I think this is a job for a Vic or WA state attorney general.
If WA govt money is proven to have been diverted into the slush fund via Thiess, then that is a legitimate line of enquiry.
Don’t know who the WA attorney general is, but probably a politically good line of enquiry to start. Nobody can protest a state government looking into if taxpayer money was used for fraudulent purposes.
The increasing widely held view – as noted in several peer reviewed papers by people whose income depends on – is that reduced Arctic ice induced jet stream changes can mean sudden big dumps of snow, as well as blocking patterns keeping heat waves in place.
So fucking what? The weather’s changing. You have to prove that we were the major reason it changed. You can’t. There’s no causational link because they’re not even looking for it. They’re inventing it.
The climate industry are like east African pirates holding the civilised world to ransom, with the help of big government fanboys like you, who live off our money, you fucking dumb weasel.
Obama’s America:
‘Fiscal Cliff’ Has Many Perils
CBO Warns of Recession, or More Big Deficits, Depending on Congressional Action
WASHINGTON—The U.S. economy likely would slide into a “significant recession” next year if Congress doesn’t avert tax increases and spending cuts set to begin in January, the Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.
But if they are postponed for at least a year, the federal government faces the prospect of a fifth straight year with a budget deficit greater than $1 trillion, the CBO said.
These dueling pressures came into sharp focus as the nonpartisan agency released its final budget and economic forecast ahead of the November elections.
Yep – can’t believe he went on the program knowing he would be asked about BHP and hadn’t even bothered to read the statement released by BHP as to why they were cancelling the project.
Because of two new egregious taxes, an artificially high exchange rate caused by excessive Government borrowing and pre Keating industrial laws, fuckwit.
The same scenario didn’t exist before these corrupt, inept, commie turds were in power.
The West Australian can reveal that more than $380,000 of State Government money was given to a union “association” that Ms Gillard helped establish on behalf of her then boyfriend Bruce Wilson.
So fucking what? The weather’s changing. You have to prove that we were the major reason it changed. You can’t. There’s no causational link because they’re not even looking for it. They’re inventing it.
You are ignorant, stupid and offensive all rolled up into one bitter ball, and demonstration of why the Right is poisoned at the moment.
No Steve, he’s absolutely correct, Mann is basically another left wing fraudster who will lose his defamation case and is lucky he isn’t in gaol for bilking public monies.
So fucking what? The weather’s changing. You have to prove that we were the major reason it changed. You can’t. There’s no causational link because they’re not even looking for it. They’re inventing it.
You are ignorant, stupid and offensive all rolled up into one bitter ball, and demonstration of why the Right is poisoned at the moment.
Translation : I have no answer, so I will insult you.
“He had worked here for the Timber Workers Union. He’d sort of chugged that in, cashed that up and usually union officials are worth a fair bit when they leave one union and go to another.”
Why do you think they are worth so much money, Julia?
Because they make sacrifices for thrift and make smart, long term decisions in equities markets, like Warren Buffet?
Or is it because they are systemically corrupt and screw their members and poor unfortunate ransomed superannuation beneficiaries legally and illegally?
Gab, as I do with you, I start to get annoyed when I say something about climate with a link to back it up, get told it’s wrong and there is no peer reviewed paper, point them to peer reviewed papers (available through my first link), and then still get told this is all rubbish.
It shows extreme laziness and ideological commitment against reading evidence and believing in mainstream science.
A spokesman replied: “As the Prime Minister has repeatedly made clear, she was not involved in any wrongdoing.
“Any questions about this document should be addressed to the person who lodged and signed it, namely Ralph Blewitt.”
Mr Blewitt, a former union bagman and sidekick for Mr Wilson, was also Ms Gillard’s client from the AWU at the time.
He told The Australian this month that he had been involved in “sham transactions” and that he would talk to authorities in return for not being criminally prosecuted.
After realising the ‘I was young and naive’ excuse no longer carries the day, now she’s blaming Blewitt.
So as a solicitor, she drafts and prepares the association, and now she is blaming her client.
They’re not even trying anymore. What a feeble defense.
“the property and income of the association must be applied solely in accordance with the objects of the association and no part of that property or income may be paid or otherwise distributed, directly or indirectly, to members, except in good faith in the promotion of those objects”
I wonder who wrote this association rule – Blewitt or Gillard?
Oh, but it’s his fault because he signed it.
Would anyone here hire Gillard to even run their tea trolley?
Heiner Affair set for another examination after Premier Campbell Newman confirmed the Commission of Inquiry into child protection could include re-examination of issues
This post at Bolts site has a photo of the cheque that was made out to S&G.
Is it just me, or does the handwriting look very feminine, hardly the sort of handwriting that one would expect from rough and tumble union types such as Blewitt and Wilson
It would be an interesting exercise if a handwriting expert was to have a look at it.
About the same percentage of Australian adults use tobacco as belong to unions. One of these activities provides its users with a feeling of well being and comfort in their time of need and fills Treasury’s coffers with billions of dollars per annum. The other is cancerous tumour eating at the fabric of our nation costing us billions in lost productivity.
So as a solicitor, she drafts and prepares the association, and now she is blaming her client.
She is blaming her client for facilitating him to commit a crime.
Her defence to conspiracy to commit fraud is that she is a drooling imbecile at just above retarded IQ figures, because a partner at a law firm would not be so stupid, gullible or reckless.
Which is countermanded by her enjoyment of the property paid for with stolen monies – which no doubt can be cast that she became a guilty party at that point.
The three different reasons Julia Gillard gave have come from three different sources. 1. Hedley Thomas from The Australian who did an interview with former Slater & Gordon partner Nick Styant-Browne in the last few days. 2. Mike Smith who has a copy of the form used to set up the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association which was used to funnel the money through., which he says most likely has Julia Gillard’s hand writing on it. 3. The interview Glenn Milne did with Julia Gillard which was published on the November 11, 2007 in The Telegraph.
Has anyone seen the handwriting on that form? Is it the same?
No one gives a fuck about climate change, you stupid lesbian eunuch.
I can’t wait til your kid starts going to school, and at university when the study of the bizarre social movement of climate change denialism of the early 21st century will be a subject. He can bring you in for group study of how you were so stupid and sure of yourself.
I’m really looking forward to the perp walk. I hope the coppers do that thing were they gently push her head down so she doesn’t scone it on the car door. They can tell her to bend like she has a union official in front of her.
The accounts being exposed as a sham she reckons she was duped into setting up, has Gillard paid any money back to the union members? Or even assisted to recover any?
That’s the night that Ann Romney has been scheduled to deliver the keynote address. So in order to get Mitt’s wife onto television, the campaign may have to scramble and reschedule her speech…..
Correction: An earlier update incorrectly stated that the networks would not cover the opening night of the Democratic convention. The Democratic convention, unlike the Republican convention, is only three nights — all of which will be covered in prime time by the networks.
Did she know at the start when she set-up the articles of association that it’s intended purpose was not as described on the document she drafted?
Yes. Read the transcript :
The thinking behind the forming of incorporated associations is that it had been our experience that if you did it in a less formal way, you just had someone, say Fred Bloggs, say, oh look, I’ll just open a bank account and everybody can put the money into there, the problem developed that when the leadership team fractured, as relatively commonly happens, you got into a very difficult dispute about who was the owner of the monies in the bank account, so it was better to have an incorporated association, a legal entity, into which people could participate as members, that was the holder of the account.
She knew what the purpose was right from the start. Wilson double-crossed her, is the most likely scenario, but she knew it was no workplace reform association. Besides, from what I’ve read, it was set up illegally anyway, with only 2 members instaed of 5. And she wrote the rules to say that the members couldn’t benefit apart from the stated aims.
So she knew it was a sham association right from the word go.
And now she’s trying to point the finger at Blewitt. Shameless.
As I’ve said, deception, deceit and lying are part of her core personality. She appears to have no remorse and will throw anyone under the bus to save her hide – this is a lifetime of practice in lying and being deceptive.
I am concerned that so far few reforms have been implemented which would effectively prevent the abuse of executive power seen in the ’80s from recurring. I believe that our adapted Westminster system visits enormous power upon the Premier and, in the federal sphere, upon the Prime Minister. I believe that the people of Australia should look carefully at curtailing not only the power of the Executive in each State, but also the power of the federal Executive and the Prime Minister. This power continues to grow largely unchecked.
Copyright 1994 by The Samuel Griffith Society. All rights reserved.
So that was then; ’80′s, ’90′s, NAUGHTIES…and what’s that, slowly drifting in on stevie’s Ice Shelf?…a dish of…
Steve, although I am a relatively new visitor to this blog, I think that I would be correct in my assumption that it is primarily concerned with things economic and libertarian. This being the case, why don’t you and your stupid climate change religious zealots FUCK OFF to somewhere that gives a shit, somewhere like The Drum, JoNova or WUWT?
The adults here are actually interested in watching history happen, the distinct possibility that a sitting (although unelected) PM will be removed from office and end up in the other big house.
This being the case, why don’t you and your stupid climate change religious zealots FUCK OFF to somewhere that gives a shit, somewhere like The Drum, JoNova or WUWT?
The adults here are actually interested in watching history happen, the distinct possibility that a sitting (although unelected) PM will be removed from office and end up in the other big house.
I love the smh headline ‘slush fund may come back to haunt Julia Gillard’
Bit late, fellas:
‘slush fund has come back to haunt Julia Gillard’
I know they’re trying to spin it as some type of youthful indescretion, but we’re not talking about a nude romp in the MGM grand here, we’re talking about someone systematically and knowingly setting up fraudulent associations. It’s not a youthful indescretion, it’s a deliberate action not in accordance with the law.
No Steve, he’s absolutely correct, Mann is basically another left wing fraudster who will lose his defamation case and is lucky he isn’t in gaol for bilking public monies.
Any sensible person would throw Mann under the bus in a heartbeat, the man won’t have a penny after he finishes the action with his legal actions.
Steve, although I am a relatively new visitor to this blog, I think that I would be correct in my assumption that it is primarily concerned with things economic and libertarian.
Yes, and libertarians are poisoning the Right of politics with their commitment to simplistic crank economic ideas that are more about ideology than economic evidence (or indeed, common sense.)
Libertarian small government types are also anti-science and are busy conning themselves that they aren’t.
You need to be told. Repeatedly.
But it is true, I have to do something else for a while.
Heiner is ever more “birther” than your current fantasies, dot.
SoB, you are better than this.
The rape of that girl while in government custody and the actions of the QLD government to cover up the matter is a stain on public administrations across the country.
Any decent person would want to ensure the matter and the people involved are dealt with to ensure all government officials in all juristictions are made aware so no other child suffers again like that again.
You’re sounding very bitter and shrill today, SFB.
Gillard is still under a cloud and he can’t even win a climate argument, but I think his troubles are somewhat deeper. I think he’s about to be replaced by the Liar’s party with a cheaper bot.
Just as unintelligible, but more interesting.
Libertarian small government types are also anti-science and are busy conning themselves that they aren’t.
I would have thought that constant questioning ie skepticism, is in fact the very basis of science and the scientific method.
On the other hand, basing theories on consensus would be the very definition of anti-science.
But it is true, I have to do something else for a while
Run along then. Others want to discuss how far the corruption in the unions and ALP runs. Is it all the way down, or just a contaminated branch?
Ha! who am I kidding. S&G extended credit to a bagman because one of the partners knew he was an ex union boss, so assumed he’d done the natural thing and fleeced the union. Anyone who moved from one union to the other was undoubtedly rich enough to get their mates to buy houses on their behalf.
no he is not. That’s a level he’s comfortable with – anything, no matter if it involves a rape & cover-up – anything to defend his Dear Leader. Anything.
1. Any and every statement or proclamation he makes will shortly thereafter be proven false. Whether it’s because he in particular made the proclamation, that the universe / god whoever then ensures that the opposite will happen, or whether he just has a knack for being wrong all the time, is up for debate. What is not up for debate is that he is wrong often enough that he makes a great political weather vane where whatever side of the argument he takes, that side will lose, always.
2. He is a vital conduit into the extraordinary world of leftist dementia. It’s important to always remain exposed to the inner machinations of the average leftist’s mind.
3. The place is generally less lively without him.
no he is not. That’s a level he’s comfortable with – anything, no matter if it involves a rape & cover-up – anything to defend his Dear Leader. Anything.
Agree, I retract that statement based upon further evidence.
If you look at the cheque on the Bolt site and compare it to Smith’s snippets of handwriting you can see a pretty strong similarity between the cheque and the writing in the top right hand picture in the montage. But it is the writing in the address line on top of Gillard’s writing. Note that in the cheque the ‘i’ is a lower case ‘i’ even though all the other letters are upper case and it is dotted. In Gillard’s writing she doesn’t dot her ‘i’. But whoever wrote the address in above the line looks like they have the same left slant writing, very straight W and dotted ‘i’. Who wrote the address in?
Ok, Conroy now admits Gillard set up the AWU Workplace Association, and agrees on her exit interview she said it was used for purposes in contravention to the terms she stated when the entity was set up…but he thinks that’s ok:
“What was allegedly going on in the (Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association) was that members’ funds were being siphoned off into this fund.
“That is entirely separate from setting up a fund and union officials contributing to their own re-election.
“There is no suggestion the Prime Minister knew anything about what was going on within that fund.”
Looks like he was not in parliament. This could be a problem for the former union rep.
Yes dot, but I see it like “breaking in a Whores“, using the Jeffrey Method; you ease off a little, before their fear becomes wild, blind, murderous panic. Next thing you know, you have a biddable mount, that can take you where the wild bush horses go, and you round up the whole mob.
When Phil Gude read documents into the Victorian Hansard in ’96 there were references to Shorten & Conroy there as well.
Yes, that’s why I thought it was a strange choice. Because he is implicated. I would have thought someone else would be used, someone clean. Albanese hasn’t been mentioned at all, and he likes to run interference for the leader.
No doubt at all the cheque signature was redacted.
I just love how lawyers hoard all the documentation. All those dusty files, sitting around with unexploded ordnance in them.
Who would have thought an exit interview transcript for a junior partner would be worth hanging onto? That one day you could use that to bring down a PM.
He who reads the rules on the inside of the box and keeps all the paperwork wins.
Yes, that’s why I thought it was a strange choice. Because he is implicated. I would have thought someone else would be used, someone clean. Albanese hasn’t been mentioned at all, and he likes to run interference for the leader.
Good point.
I think Conroy has acted as he thinks he can get away with it…again. I note he did not make the statement in parliament as it may yet be proven that he said something he knew was not true.
I’m calling the cliche that is the ALP/Trade Union/Ambulance Chasing Law Firms/Members of Such in the Judiciary the Australian Brahman class as the Thomson/Slipper/Slapper affais prove they believe they untouchable as a group.
I just love how lawyers hoard all the documentation. All those dusty files, sitting around with unexploded ordnance in them.
Who would have thought an exit interview transcript for a junior partner would be worth hanging onto? That one day you could use that to bring down a PM.
Lol yes – I cant believe they kept the tape from 17 years ago
It’s not Gillard’s handwriting on the cheque, if it was that would surely have already been mentioned by Michael Smith. Also if you look at the comparisons Ben Fordham provides the top right image has what appears to be Blewitt’s address written in the same writing-style the cheque is in, and then underneath that is Gillard’s handwriting, which is quite different (and dare I say, looks not much different from the crude print of a 16 year old – excuse the ‘hyperbowl’).
It’s not Gillard’s handwriting on the cheque, if it was that would surely have already been mentioned by Michael Smith.
Listen to the 2GB discussion with Ben Fordham. He cleaerly states his handwriting expert thinks it is Gillard. As you guys note, she may not have written everything on that page.
I’d like to see from Vic gov records who was the registered solicitor who did the conveyancing for the Fitzroy property. That person would have to see the deposit cheque that Bolta has linked to.
I’d like to see from Vic gov records who was the registered solicitor who did the conveyancing for the Fitzroy property. That person would have to see the deposit cheque that Bolta has linked to.
Someone said above in this thread that Gillard did the conveyancing
Token, the Heiner affair had in its origins, a blue between two different unions protecting senior members from the enquiry.
Then the pollies got pulled in – especially Rudd as CoS.
Winston, interesting how its all linked. No wonder SoB gets the vapours when it is mentioned.
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Max, it was Phil Coorey who stated in his article today Gillard did the conveyancing – I have not seen that statement verified elsewhere so I’m being careful. That said, it still is on the SMH website.
The Fitzroy house was bought in Mr Blewitt’s name, even though he did not have the assets to finance the purchase, and it was Mr Wilson who lived in it. Ms Gillard did the conveyancing work. Ms Gillard has always denied any knowledge of, or role in, illegal behaviour and none has been shown. Her former partners say an internal inquiry uncovered no legal wrongdoing.
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JamesK, I’ll need to listen again, you may be correct.
John Comnenus, seeing how far these tentacles of corruption reach, I am beginning to wonder if there is anyone who could be trusted to run a Royal Commission into union corruption. Can you think of anyone who is untainted?
1.14pm: The Prime Minister says she will not make a statement to parliament on this issue. She says she’s applying a high standard of truthfulness at this press conference.
She says once she became aware that she had been deceived about the activities of the AWU association, she ended her relationship with Bruce Wilson.
She’s made the statement in public. Let’s see what the documents reveal on whether that is true.
She says her only involvement in the controversial AWU entity was to provide advice as a solicitor. I provided legal advice for the establishment of the association.
Coorey’s identification of who did the conveyancing (and who you would think handled the cheque) is still here
The corruption, the inter-marrying, the “youth camps”, the appointments, the lifelong back scratching of an inner circle elite. The total protection offered to that same elite. The total control of it’s political arm by some shadowy untouchable cabal.
And just like the mafia they periodically get rid of those who draw too much unwelcome attention to this state of affairs.
Yes, and it looks like someone from the Oz has the balls to front her:
1.35pm: Ms Gillard has a minor stand-off with senior journalist from The Australian, Sid Maher.
Mr Maher says The Australian stands by the thrust of its reporting this week.
Ms Gillard says the paper has apologised for stating falsely that she set up a trust fund in the AWU matter. She did not set up a trust fund, and every time that allegation has been asserted it has been retracted.
Mark that down, and note the fact it is a sexist conspiracy plot from Area 52 in Roswell.
M0nty & SoB will be reading that from the talking points sheet issued after they have been issued to all relevant parties after this conference is complete.
The section of the document about it being for the benefit of workers was not written by me, nor signed by me, says PM Gillard.
It woz Blewitt wot done it, Guv’nor.
I think this is a lie – I’d have to check the Smith material, but I’m sure she wrote the rules.
PM Gillard – I provided advice and that was it. ‘I paid for the renovations on my home.’
Another lie. In the transcript she says she can’t be certain.
PM Gillard – I has already been preselected to stand for the Senate so I made the determination to resign from Slater and Gordon
Another lie. The transcript shows different. Press reports from the time show she left in October 95.
PM Gillard – but in hindsight, it is obvious I should have opened a file but that was not obvious at the time.
What a howler! Why not discussed with other partners? How many other associations created without files?
PM Gillard – the purpose of the association I gave advice on setting up was for the re-election of union officials.
Finally we get some truth. But why was it called ‘the workplace reform assocation’.
PM Gillard – was your conduct ethical ‘Yes.’
She really is pathological.
How can the party stand behind her. She finally deigns to answer some questions.
I note that her language about Pickering mirrors sfb’s language to the letter (bankrupt/’nut-job’) etc. Clearly reading from the same talking points, as if there were any question.
BRC – perhaps that was part of “model” rules provided under the enabling legislation for incorporation of associations.
Adopting the “model” rules completely is the quickest way to obtain incorporation, and you would expect a clause like that to appear in the “model” rules.
If that is the case (as I suspect), then JG did not actually “write” the particular rule.
Ms Gillard says the paper has apologised for stating falsely that she set up a trust fund in the AWU matter. She did not set up a trust fund, and every time that allegation has been asserted it has been retracted.
LOL. The first leader in political history whose defence is ‘no no – it was a dodgy slush fund, not a trust fund.’
1.12pm: Ms Gillard says she provided advice to incorporate the AWU association, and knew no more about its activities until controversy erupted within the union in 1995.
If they tie that cheque to her doing the conveyancing, that is a major, major problem for her now.
Shades of ‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman’ and ‘I am not a crook’.
By the way the Australian and others are still punching, I’d say they are sitting on more than just the exit interview transcript. They have a photocopy of the friggen cheque, FFS. How much more do they have?
And the useless fucking hacks just let her BS all the way without question, now, as she stated, she will never answer another question about these events.
Did she know Wilson was married; did she have sexual relations etc etc
And the useless fucking hacks just let her BS all the way without question, now, as she stated, she will never answer another question about these events.
I am willing to bet that she will, maybe not the stenographers in the Love media, but who trusts them to do anything more than provide coverage.
Anyone following up Cambridge’s request for a RC will need to talk to her.
The whole ‘I knew nothing about the association once it was created’ is a red rag to a bull.
Here’s an excerpt from the Smith/Jones interview:
According to her, he was concealing it all from her. He must have been very good (at that) because he chose her legal firm Slater & Gordon to do the conveyancing on the purchase of the house. Slater & Gordon, the firm in which Julia was a partner, wrote a letter to say that the amount of $67,722.30 would be required from Wilson and Blewitt to complete the sale.
The law firm said it needed a bank cheque. Well, the firm must have trusted Wilson because there was no bank cheque, Wilson signed a cheque from the very association that Julia Gillard had set up just a few months before.
One of the rules of the association written to satisfy the WA Corporate Affairs Commissioner, was, quote: “the property and income of the Association must be applied solely in accordance with the objects of the Association. No part of that property or income may be paid or otherwise distributed directly or indirectly to members unquote.” Well, Wilson and Blewitt at that stage still didn’t have quite enough money in the account to buy the house. They needed an extra $150,000. Who lent them the money? Slater & Gordon, Julia Gillard’s law firm. It gave them as I understand it a mortgage for $150,000 and the firm did the conveyancing for free. This bloke Wilson obviously was an important client. Julia Gillard was in a romantic relationship with him for four years, until he was caught out, as I understand it, in similar frauds using bank accounts in Melbourne. He was sprung in August 1995.
Quite apart from ‘Town Mode’, we have the cheque for the house purchase coming through the firm, the firm doing not only the conveyancing, but also arranging a mortgage. These things were all done pro-bono. All that has to happen now is for one of the ex-S&G partners to say that she handled the house purchase – either conveyancing, or mortgage, or both – and she has been caught lying, red handed. Not 17 years ago, but 17 minutes ago.
PM Gillard – the purpose of the association I gave advice on setting up was for the re-election of union officials.
Finally we get some truth. But why was it called ‘the workplace reform assocation’.
Is it truth? Didn’t Michael Smith come up with a copy of the application to create the association, and in (allegedly) Gillard’s own handwriting have words to the effect of the AWU Workplace Reform Association being for the purpose of promoting a safe working environment? I’d have to listen to the interview again to be certain but I’m pretty sure thats what was written, and that it’s very different to what was put to the partners of Slater & Gordon in that little transcribed and recorded “chat.”
The prime minister dragged to a humiliating press conference to explain her dodgy behaviour (for 1 hour and 13 minutes) and not a SINGLE question to her in the House.
No, she just stands there and pours a bucket of shit on Abbott as a liar and an inept buffoon. Today she is saying Abbott doesn’t read everything before him.
And the useless fucking hacks just let her BS all the way
If the the two Skynews commentators (Ashleigh Gillon plus an obscure other) were any further in her corner they would have disappeared up her ample backside.
@kaboom – on the association rules, there is this (smh):
The story came back to haunt Ms Gillard after a retired Melbourne lawyer, Harry Nowicki, started researching a book on the Australian Workers Union.
Mr Nowicki received a copy of the handwritten application to incorporate the Workplace Reform Association when he applied under freedom of information laws for access to WA police files on the case.
I believe Michael Smith has stated it’s her handwriting. So she wrote the rules.
She’s in a trap now. The Press Conference was a big mistake.
Well, actually, being an unethical and crooked lawyer well versed in deceit was the first mistake.
but there are no rebuttals allowed in the House from the Opposition, CL and if anyone from the Speakers’ left raises a grievance to what the lying PM is stating then the Speaker turfs them out.
But I agree, in general, the Coalition seems cowed by Gillard’s loud voice and bluster.
Face it guys, no matter what you say the love media will report it unfavorably, so instead of trying to appease just have the balls to stand your ground and have the courage of your convictions and fuck the consequences.
The ALP hacks are crying out desperately for a five second soundbite of when Abbott having a go so they can endlessly run that on the newscycle creating the impression that it’s just a political point scoring squabble being driven by a “desperate” AbbottAbbottAbott.
As they did regarding Slipper and Thompson.
He cannot say a word on the matter outside of what he has done so far.
What I mean is that she admits to the association being setup for union slush fund re-election. No longer pretending it was for workplace reform. She’s trying to spin it around to say that ‘yes, I set up a slush fund, it was Blewitt who wrote the dodgy rules’.
Only the handwritten application for the association is in her handwriting, and besides, she was the lawyer. Pinning it on your client is a bit rich when you wrote it.
Has there ever been a more fraidy-cat Opposition?
It’s in the news now. Time for one of the opposition to ask some salient questions.
Based on Gillard’s statements, Slater & Gordon’s handling of the conveyancing would be the next place to start looking.
Exactly. Given the cheque has been produced, I’d say it’s a fair likelihood the rest of the conveyancing and mortgage information has been procured. Correct me if I’m wrong, but all that stuff has to be lodged when a house changes hands, so it’s on the public record.
It would seem the PMO strategy is to answer a few questions, then bluff her way through. Commendable, but disastrous if there is more evidence to come out.
I just keep thinking we’re about to see a blue GAP dress appear.
Face it guys, no matter what you say the love media will report it unfavorably, so instead of trying to appease just have the balls to stand your ground and have the courage of your convictions and fuck the consequences.
+1 time to stare down the love media and show some spine.
The ALP hacks are crying out desperately for a five second soundbite of when Abbott having a go so they can endlessly run that on the newscycle creating the impression that it’s just a political point scoring squabble being driven by a “desperate” AbbottAbbottAbott.
As they did regarding Slipper and Thompson.
He cannot say a word on the matter outside of what he has done so far.
Bullshit.
This is now becoming a tradition on the right.
‘Oh noes – we can’t say ANYTHING because the media will get us so we’ll just sit here and be beaten up.’
I’ve called this the right’s Stockholm Syndrome.
We saw them meekly stop their Thompson campaign when the ALP ordered them to. So now he’s swaggered off – laughing – into the sunset.
BRC – on reflection, I think an application to incorporate would also have annexed a certified copy of an unanimous motion of an existing unincorporated association to become incorporated!
There must be minutes – and a paper trail. It would show the “members” votes to incorporate.
It’s in the news now. Time for one of the opposition to ask some salient questions.
Gillard had to double down or she was gone. Fact is she created the test whereby if she is linked to any documents, she proves she has lied.
I believe that if Labor falls on this matter, you’ll hear canards from the Love Media equating this to the dismissal.
Better that Coalition not touch it so the legitimacy of their mandate at the next election is not tarnished.
Face it guys, this looks like a ruined house built on poor foundations that is tottering. It is likely to fall in without Abbott & his team having to touch it.
The fact that SoB is getting the vapours so often indicates the rats are fleeing and going to a safer location.
We saw them meekly stop their Thompson campaign when the ALP ordered them to. So now he’s swaggered off – laughing – into the sunset.
Yes that was weak but the luvvie media wastrying as hard as they could to transform that into a liberal driven political jihad. Once it became clear the indeps weren’t going to drop their support there was nothing more the libs could do other than rant and rave on about it for the next 14 months.
“My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way; to increasing occupational health and safety; to improving the conditions of the member of the union,” Ms Gillard said.
“That was my understanding of the purpose of the association.”
Gillard’s inconsistent variations of what she thought the fund was about would expose here to cross-examination about her credibility. She really ought to be charged with an offence that relates to the use of the funds.
BRC – on reflection, I think an application to incorporate would also have annexed a certified copy of an unanimous motion of an existing unincorporated association to become incorporated!
There must be minutes – and a paper trail. It would show the “members” votes to incorporate.
Not sure what you’re saying here – obviously sliding into lawyer-speak. Does this mean she can pin it on blewitt and walk, or is implicated?
From what I can recall, the association only had two members – Wilson and Blewitt.
On reflection, I think the ideal question for Julie Bishop to ask the PM is this:
‘Would you use government power to close down the internet sites reporting on the AWU affair. If so, why not use the existing defamation laws to do the same?’
“Under no circumstances answer any question from anyone, including Paul Kelly. Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.”
An incorporated association cannot exist in a vacuum. It must have members, who have unanimously (a) agreed to incorporate, and (b) incorporate under “these” rules.
There must be proof of minutes of a meeting, held say not more than 30 days prior to the application being lodged.
@lazlo – it was a crazy thing to do, go out and start making statements without knowing the full amount of evidence still yet to be brought to light. But I think they had little choice. She couldn’t continue to stay schtum about it.
They are not in control of the agenda now, so they had to play the least-worst hand. The hand they hold does not have any winners in it.
@brc: I think we’re on the same page. I’d love to see it splayed across the global english speaking media, but it’s all leftist infested. Socialist solidarity and all that.
I’m annoyed that we have a confirmed liar who has no problem with deceit.
I don’t think this will bring her down. I hope she limps to an election with the stench of union corruption hanging around her neck. I’m more interested in future union slush-fund slurpers like Shorten and Howes being stopped because of it.
It’s the independents who should be bringing the goat rodeo to a close. As if Labor would ever voluntarily end their time at the feeding trough.
Is anyone affiliated with the ALP advertising the fact? “Labor” rarely appeared in ALP election ads in Queensland earlier this year, and I haven’t seen a mention on all the flyers, newspaper and TV ads for the current NT election either. It’s all “The Henderson Team.”
Fun fact: Unions NT had a van parked out with their pamphleteers on the Smith St mall on tuesday, still decked out in 2007 anti-workchoices livery. I’ve got a photo.
Yet the PM has just spent an hour fending off questions about this non-story.
You said there was no evidence.
Yet we’ve had a transcript, stat decs and a photocopy of the infamous cheque appear.
She has confessed in her press conference that she set up a slush fund, but created it for the purposes of workplace reform. Instead of admitting she set it up under false pretences, the new strategy seems to be to blame the union bagman?
Now you’re saying that she’s dealt with this well?
Tell me again : why do you defend this lying, deceitful person? She’s not even a good politician, why bother with the defense?
With all this story, I forgot we’re about to see the NT Labor government fall. That should be fun to watch, only they don’t have many electorates to start with.
It’s like Labor used it’s plain-packaging laws on it’s own election material, just to show how well it works.
Why don’t you take it up with CL & Sinclair, who I believe have both expressed skepticism that the Heiner investigation movement was of any real point or benefit pursuing.
I made a comment on the paper management post but maybe someone here can answer my question:
Why was there no conflict between AWU a major client of the firm and ‘providing advice’ to one of its officials of the most convenient manner in which to set up a re election slush fund
I’m assuming a re election slush fund is for the benefit of union officials running for re election rather than for the benefit of union members
But I’m no expert in how these things work in union circles, maybe someone more au fait with these matters could comment
And I understood from the taped interview between Michael Smith and David Flint that the application for the registration of the association was likely signed by Ms Gillard and that application I’m anticipating would have been accompanied by the proposed rules for the proposed incorporated Association
so ‘providing advice’ may or not mean drafting the application for the association plus the proposed rules and lodging them
Was that part of the ‘advice given’
Then there was a question from WA and there was an assurance given
by whom was that given?
With all this story, I forgot we’re about to see the NT Labor government fall.
The CLP will win and tip out the minority Labor government on Saturday, but not by much, I’m guessing. Apparently the CLP leadership isn’t the strongest they’ve ever fielded. However, Gillard’s government of lies, deception and constant crisis will have an impact and we may be surprised.
If he’s got kids, they hate him and refuse to see him anymore. I mean, what a fucking role model? A pathetic skid mark on humanity who spends all his time on a blog he doesn’t have the intelligence for, dribbling shit. What a sad prick.
Is that legal? Can you be in office under a party, but nowhere state who that party it is?
I don’t know, harry. What I do know is if it was “illegal” it would not deter Labor MPs. It seems for Labor that laws don’t apply to them and are merely suggestions, not rules.
She stared down the journalists over nearly an hour of questioning, saying it was their one chance. If any came in unprepared, and many no doubt did, they’ve missed their opportunity. The time taken will be seen as courageous.
Shoot me now. Bolt has gone back to his Julia-loving days.
But he does end with this:
Now for the public verdict, though…. And any more information to come out. What, for instance, will Con the Builder say? Stand by..
Stand by for more information to come out and turn the press conference into a self-aware stream of lies and bluster.
Shoot me now. Bolt has gone back to his Julia-loving days.
He does drop the name of one party that was obviously not happy with Gillard in 1995 (and probably is now it is clear she sh*tcanned him in the exit interview) – Con the Builder.
“it was a crazy thing to do, go out and start making statements without knowing the full amount of evidence still yet to be brought to light.”
“Yep, she’s played right into their hands.”
…or, could it be she’s actually playing handsies with Pickering under the table.
Above everything else, she gave Pickering The Prize for causing her to come out and make statements (about what real journalists have long been covering), the day after Pickering posted this on his,“Very Violent Sexist”site:
ADVICE TO THE PRIME MINISTER:
Do not answer any questions!
Under no circumstances answer any question from anyone, including Paul Kelly. Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.
You know there is much material yet to be released: Transcripts, tapes, signed statements, affidavits, the evidence of Blewitt, Wilson’s media deal, McClelland, Cambridge, a Federal Court Judge, former partners, colleagues and associates, the AWU, the Law Institute, Vic Police FOI material and much more.
You cannot possibly know the extent of what will be presented as corroborated evidence. Get one thing wrong and you will be mercilessly beaten all the way to the gallows with it.
Keep stonewalling them Prime Minister. You are on a hiding to nothing… unless of course you want to tell the entire truth. But that would be a silly and uncharacteristic thing to do.
Oh dear, silly me! Fancy teaching you to suck eggs when your army of well-paid minders would have already advised you of that.
Anyway, just hang in there, mate. It might all go away.
My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way; to increasing occupational health and safety; to improving the conditions of the member of the union
@true lilly my takeaway from that whole thing is that Pickering has a mole in the PMO, or close to it. He knew she was going to do the presser, so decided to post it.
Must be quite satisfying to start out with a couple of posts on facebook about how journalists shouldn’t be sacked, and end up with the PM naming you in a press conference as the pebble in her shoe.
‘Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrell’ will have to be updated to ‘never fight with someone who has plenty of facebook friends’
@max – you’re right there. If you look at the header you can see the copy of the reform assocation application. It is a pre-printed form.
I wonder what the deposit forms are from? Are they in the Kernohan or Cambridge stat decs? Or are they new material not seen yet?
I used to think she used her clever lawyer brain to keep plausible deniability to a maximum. But after reading the exit transcript the ‘naive’ excuse starts to gain more weight. She was very sloppy at keeping her distance. I guess that’s understandable – just a bit of low-level fraud to build up a slush fund. Who was ever going to find out?
One of problems arising from this matter is the statement by Smith reading from the relevant act is that the association must have the signature of 5 members, where as the AWU Workplace Association only had 2.
So did Gillard just drop Justice Bernard Murphy in the poo for being responsible for the matter and for not creating the necessary file?
Wasn’t he supposed to be the senior lawyer on this matter?
They have a photocopy of the friggen cheque, FFS. How much more do they have?
In her exit interview she produced “HAND WRITTEN” reciepts from con the builder etc etc Any competent HR manager would have taken copies of all the documents produced and kept them on her HR file.
She’s done herself the disservice of telling her employees that she knew the rort was on. Now she gives an unbelievable explanation that the re-election was related to workplace safety.
The new explanation is completely different to the one given to her employers. Too little too late.
They have a photocopy of the friggen cheque, FFS. How much more do they have?
In her exit interview she produced “HAND WRITTEN” reciepts from con the builder etc etc Any competent HR manager would have taken copies of all the documents produced and kept them on her HR file.
Slater and Gordon are a public company. ASIC needs to be pushed into action over disclosure, directors duties and acts of management.
is it enough for the love media to finally run the ‘this is all dealt with’ stories they are desperate to run?
Well on Skynews Ashleigh Gillon, David Speers, Malcolm Farr and Peter Van O have all rushed to affirm Gillard’s “tour de force” has put paid to all this nasty talk.
So the ‘re-election’ was all to do with workplace safety. Water is known to flow uphill, too, Ms. Gillard, is it not? The earth is also flat, and butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth, madam.
Not with all the perfumes of Araby, Ms. Gillard, not even then would your little hand in all of this sweeten.
Clearly the truth is unimportant to the sychophants reading from the talking points memo. As long as the object of affection is removed from the front pages.
A isn’t equal to A. A can be B, if it’s important enough. Idiotic disciples of Plato who care only about relative truth, not in reality.
@brc, Ha, I remember Larry from 27, not 17 years ago, when he trained a horse of mine, and I remember the sorts of ‘movers and shakers’ he mixed and mingled with back then…and I can’t help but think that it’s no accident that while he’s going at Gillard, the Government is ‘investigating’ Race Fixing…around people who also made the news after a certain racing identity’s murder.
Race fixing inquiry likely to lead to new laws August 17, 2012
…and there’s “That 17″ again, along with the threat of yet more new LAWS for our Labor loaded Judiciary to apply, or NOT, as they see ‘fit’.
Steve, we can talk about whatever we talk about. You can follow like a little lost dog looking for a home. Don’t you have any friends? Or are you a secret lover of fifty shades of black and white? Here’s my hairbrush. Spank yourself. Then go.
Clearly reform is a by-word for making sure unions can do whatever they like.
Just remember that whenever you here Ms G talking about important ‘reforms’ in the future.
What we have learned during this term of government (and should’ve previously learned) is that governments exist to collect public funds.
Public funds exist to be spent on over priced publicly funded projects and services.
Those over priced publicly funded projects and services exist to provide a platform for union jobs and union training schemes for their select client class.
Union jobs and union training schemes exist to fund the Brahma class and to fund the Trade Union Brahma political class (ALP politicians, trade union leaders, ambulance chasing union lawyers & the judgets/magistrates that have been promoted from the previous 3 groups).
Finally, the Trade Union Brahma political class exists to ensure the continual expansion of government and control on all arms of government (including the media).
ShitFer has a definite ring to it as a dog’s name. Especially a government lapdog. “Here, ShitFer! Here’s a bone, ShitFer! Go fetch it for mummy Julia, ShitFer! Yeeees, mummy loves ShitFer! Good boy!”
“Shoot me now. Bolt has gone back to his Julia-loving days.”
A. Bolt swings about in his opinions like other journalists as they are not sure who to back because they never really understand public opinion until after it happens. backing it both ways sort of.
The document was titled “How could this happen?”. Media representatives chasing the man reported that he said he had been unsuccessfully trying to contact police about the issue.
………………
But, he said he just walked in, and that there was NO SECURITY, even though, they say, that wouldn’t be possible.
And again, that cryptic little post of Pickering’s:
You know there is much material yet to be released: Transcripts, tapes, signed statements, affidavits, the evidence of Blewitt, Wilson’s media deal, McClelland, Cambridge, a Federal Court Judge, former partners, colleagues and associates, the AWU, the Law Institute, Vic Police FOI material and much more.
You cannot possibly know the extent of what will be presented as corroborated evidence.
So anyone believe that there may some bravely unbiased person who will be able to tell us what “That Document” contained, and how he did get in the position to hand deliver it?
Oh, and the Liberal Minister he also delivered it to, was from W.A.
Candy, do you know anyone ordinary who likes her? Apart from the professional lefties, I don’t. I also hope that some award-longing journo keeps on the trail. There is more to be found and said yet. Especially at election time.
She hit out at ongoing internet rumour-mongering, sheeting it home to “misogynist nut jobs on the internet” and likening them to the so-called Birther movement which continues to claim that president Barack Obama was not born in the US.
Wow. Just as I was saying here a few hours before the press conference.
I certainly hope that if I am providing helpful rhetorical hints to the PM’s advisers, a cheque from some union related association finds its way to my letterbox soon.
You’d take that cheque too, you greasy little slime, wouldn’t you?
You’re the only sleazy misguided misogynist nut job I’ve come across around here. You don’t respect women and you don’t respect sex, or you wouldn’t be so low-down awful about it in our presence. Contrary to what some might think, I find the regular guys on the Cat to be highly respectful in this regard.
You’d take that cheque too, you greasy little slime, wouldn’t you?
You’re the only sleazy misguided misogynist nut job I’ve come across around here. You don’t respect women and you don’t respect sex, or you wouldn’t be so low-down awful about it in our presence. Contrary to what some might think, I find the regular guys on the Cat to be highly respectful in this regard.
She said it’s a “sexist smear campaign” but sexist how? Does she mean if Abbott was in her place, being a man, no one would pursue the story, delve into his past?
What would you expect an incompetent female leftwing zombie promoted beyond her talent to say? Of course, it’s sexist; there aren’t any other bullets in the gun. She’d use waaaacist if she could; in fact, she will. She’ll be trying to figure out how to work it into the conversation in the next few months while she dusts off the fascist playbook on how to shut down media freedom.
@brc, ha, well I probably best leave it at, yes, he is a colourful character, who I have no reason to support, but good reason to believe his missives are worth scouring…like I believe there is MUCH, MUCH More to the “Russian Migration Agent” who got to Ms. Gillard, at the start of the filming of her blathering, and then simply walked out…and already the ‘Official Media’ is reporting bald faced lies of what everyone was shown to have happened.
It was all a lot like a “Reverse Australia Day Riot” situation…
It’s a bit of a stretch to call it a rabid campaign when it’s running on the Australia, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald – and all from sources other than Pickerings website.
Some complain that his sideshow allows people to attack the story. I’m of the opinion that his sideshow is the reason the story is in the papers. Once he dropped the hints and made it clear no legal action would be forthcoming, the other journalists developed the cojones to actually print the truth. And when the truth comes out, we find she’s been lying all along.
Hey, girls (Gab & Lizzie. candy gets a pass for now because she doesn’t attack me much, even though some of what I say applies to her too.)
This blog has an absolutely shocking history with misogyny re females on the wrong side of the political fence.
The examples are too, too numerous to detail, and apart from mere, continually repeated, immature school boy humour about the apparently horrendous appearance of some female (only Labor or Green, or course) politicians, some of the stuff said about, say, Sarah Fluke was completely offensive, as is much about Gillard.
Rarely, oh so rarely, do you complain of anyone here going over the top or being ridiculously misogynistic.
I think it’s funny, in a sad kind of way, that you think the relatively mild misogyny of me (say) telling Gab to stick to shoes gets built up by you and your male buddies into the most horrendous misogynistic insult ev-a, while you sit back and watch the same men who run to your defence call a woman in the media who they know nought about (Fluke) a lesbian, slut, whore, etc because she talked about contraception in a political context.
So if you want me to have more respect for you, it would take some calling out of the actual, real, ugly misogyny on this blog that’s here virtually every friggin’ day.
And Lizzie, I find your highly mannered way of chatting about yourself of little interest, and bit Mk50-ian in its irritating effect, so I just generally leave you alone. Gab keeps saying she’s ignoring me, but then doesn’t, and so often can’t be ignored.
And there we have it, the Pickering defence.
In the future defence counsel will refute evidence in court on the basis that they could find at least one uncouth nut on the internet who agreed with the brief of evidence.
Candy, sadly, if Tony Abbott was to make comment on the morality of Gillard’s relationship history the love media would be down on him hard. He would be seen to be interfering with a woman’s right to ‘freedom’ and ‘choice’ etc. All the usual memes of left feminism. All he can do is hold his head high (he did support that love-child that wasn’t even his) and lead by example.
It is up to us, women ourselves, to make heard the distaste we feel for her behaviour of breaking into marriages that may not yet have finished, and thus possibly disturbing the future of the children of those marriages.
No-one can say whether the marriages of her lovers would have lasted, and her men were unpromising material in this regard, but in my book it is immoral to enter romantically into anyone else’s marriage until it is well and truly finished. Refusal to engage sends a message to men about what is really important.
When I see her in primary schools playing all pollie-friendly to little children, her past behaviour comes to front of mind. I hope it does so for others too. She has been no friend to children in the past. She appears to have placed her own self-aggrandisement before real concern for their welfare or indeed the well-being of their mothers. Very anti-woman and anti-family in fact.
@lizzie – all good points, but all too heteronormative for the zeitgeist.
It’s funny how lefties are wont to plead for the children when it’s about what might possibly happen in 100 years, but aren’t inclined to lift a finger to help keep families together, or even uphold a minimum moral standard.
Also, I notice the US and Britain expect certain standards of their leaders, but we don’t anymore.
I suspect after the Gillard experiment ends, there will be a national desire for a proper first family again, complete with a labrador and a cat.
Many people don’t express their discomfort because it’s verboten. But I’m sure in years to come there will be a sigh of relief when politicians can appear with their families again, without cries of ‘unfair’.
Rarely, oh so rarely, do you complain of anyone here going over the top or being ridiculously misogynistic.
Because, Stevie you literalist, largely it is mannered and a form of ironic, if bar-room, comment, whereas your contributions are not.
But you clearly don’t understand mannered well, do you? What do you read, Steve? Comic books? Or merely leftish talking points? Open your mind to the big world around you, in all of its linguistic and symbolic interest without the left memes to ‘guide’ you.
Hey I think the Slapper was referring to the Cat too about her references to da sexisim on the web.
Slapper, after the abuse from Keating, which your side of the political fence thought was so funny they made a musical, the abuse Howard received about his appearance and the abuse received Abbott about his religious background, don’t dare complain you fat assed troll.
i’ve put this on the paper management post but someone here may have an answer
if you’re a professional lawyer (or have been) at what stage do you just dump your clients in the shit (publicly speaking) in favour of saving your own meritorious skin
where’s the lawyer/client privilege (which is owed by the lawyer)and can only be withdrawn by the client
assuming the client here is Wilson/Blewitt
or was it AWU
in whichever case the privilege can only be withdrawn by the client
just curious
SoB, there is nothing more damaging to real women, real men and children, than the full force of the Feminist Agenda that those Emily’s List #@&%S! are poisoning the world with.
Oh and wasn’t it just plain stupid of Gillard to keep crying, “sexist Larry is picking on me!”, while also feeling the need to, so manfully, keep defending Obama, by also attacking all the men and women who don’t trust him.
But I’m sure in years to come there will be a sigh of relief when politicians can appear with their families again, without cries of ‘unfair’.
LOL… I’d forgotten that. Abbott was being sexist and highlight her childless status by have his family with him on the campaign.
And now this latest stuff is just cause she’s a sheila, and Abbott can’t take orders from a girl (despite being married with daughters)
FMD, they’re a pathetic bunch.
I’m not sure it’s all spin though – I think they really believe it to an extent. It fits in with their self-loathing mindset – where every achievement is merely a testament to someone’s failure.
Howard was right, but didn’t go far enough – these people don’t just have a black arm-band view of history – they have a black arm-band view of life. Successful in business? You should feel guilty about that (you didn’t build that, anyway). Have a family? Hate-monger! Achievements of western culture? We should be ashamed of them too!
“I’ve been trying to contact the police but haven’t received any response,” the unidentified man said.
The man said he had also contacted ASIO and written to MPs about “foreign intelligence threats”.
Media representatives chasing the man reported that he said he had been unsuccessfully trying to contact police about the issue.
(yes, it was MEDIA, NOT SECURITY, who eventually caught up with him outside!?)
Ms Gillard, who was standing with Mr Bowen at the front of the room, said she did not feel threatened.
If people tend to have problems working with people, you tend to hear it from their allies, not their enemies. Compare Rudd to Abbott – his own party allies and staffers call him out. Where are the long lines of disgruntled female staffers and fellow MPs lining up to bag him? If you want an example of Liberals who rub colleagues the wrong way, you can’t go past Heffernan, or…here’s one which I’m sure will ruffle a few feathers: Turnbull.
One day when I am completely pissed I will breech my internal gag order and tell you of my experiences with a certain Sky News host who has a hatred for Abbott and a deep love of Warmbull.
Yet transparently decent, traditional family guy Tony Abbott is daily the one who is traduced by many in the media and elsewhere. What sort of country have we become?
Oh, and not only is Abbott sexist for opposing Gillard, but if he opposes the constitutional amendments (which is by no means guaranteed), he’ll be a racist as well.
Life saver, volunteer firefighter, has actually worked in remote communities… doesn’t matter. What community involvement has Gillard had? Does she even donate to charity? Obama was the same, but they were smart enough to come up with the term “community organiser” for his early bullshit lawyer shakedown crap. I suppose Gillard could have claimed that’s what her union work was, but it probably wouldn’t wash now.
JOURNALIST: Do you think Tony Abbott over the course of the week has given this story unnecessary oxygen, given that he throughout the course of the week has said that the media has legitimate questions to ask in this case?
PM: As I understand Mr Abbott’s intervention in this debate, he has been saying I should make a statement to Parliament, but he has been unable to articulate what it is that he specifically is concerned about that that statement should be about. He has had plenty of opportunity to ask me if he was truly concerned and he has declined all of those opportunities.
I think that stupid journalist has been given unnecessary oxygen.
And despite the fact that Abbott has said stuff all, apparently she can still blame him for her actions.
The institutions will continue to harrass, frustrate and conspire against against governments using logic, commonsense and wealth creation as their guiding principles long after Labor and the Greens are driven from office. You watch. The Libs, being closet socialists and lovers of the power of government money with no real guiding wisdom or philosophy of government, will wave away the need for a war in the institutions so that communists will continue to suck on the public teat in the public service, academia and the judiciary and hijack the social, legal and economic agenda. The Libs have no idea how hard it is going to be for them to rule from the end of next year. They will constantly undermined from within.
I’m not sure if Bolta can dance, but I think he’s just invented the Dutch Two Step. In 60 mins he went from “She must surely hang” to “Isn’t she magnificent”.
I’ve never been so depressed about the idiots running this country as I am now. Can anyone in good faith point to a list of things they have done that will be of benefit to the nation as a whole in their five years in office? I ask this as a genuine question. I like to think I’m a pretty fair minded guy and give credit where it’s due, but I can’t point to any notable positive achievements of this lot like I can in the Hawke/Keating years. They are a bunch of career public servants promoted way above their level of competence and are advised by people straight out of university with zero understanding and experience of the real world.
A bigger bunch of stumbling incompetents I’ve never laid eyes on. I hope that the electorate will come to its senses and vote this sorry lot out of office next year. I think they will, but you never know. The only reason I have any doubt is because I look at some of the people sitting across the aisle in parliament and have a suspicion that they aren’t really much better.
“largely it is mannered and a form of ironic, if bar-room, comment”
Really? Here’s one:
But looking at the left’s females… well a fuglier collection of harridans, thin-lipped wowsers, bloodless soulless kommisars and hatchet-faced bitches you’d never want to meet.
And I have not even started on the left’s femenazis and lesbians yet. They combine the looks of a bucket of smashed crabs with the personality of rotting cunjevoi. The smell is similar to the latter, too. The right’s women tend to be hot.
I certainly agree with the sentiments in the first paragraph. Our government is a bunch of wowserish harridans. And that’s just the blokes! Internet filters, plain packaging, media enquiries, and alcopops taxes. That is the very antithesis of freedom loving, even if it is on the face of it in a small way.
That’s the thing that genuinely confounds me, Jarrah. The left are essentially 18th century puritans so wit and irony, which are the spice of life as far as I am concerned, go straight over their heads.
I’m not sure if Bolta can dance, but I think he’s just invented the Dutch Two Step. In 60 mins he went from “She must surely hang” to “Isn’t she magnificent”.
LOL.
Bolt falls for something he so often laments himself: the power of appearing.
It’s not the brazenness and the now conventional ‘fight reality with faux-aggro psycho mendacity,’ Andrew – it’s what she said, measured against what we know.
Journalists are not there to score a performance piece. If they were, Kevin Rudd’s famous last performance in the parliamentary courtyard would be regarded as proof of his humanity, decency, humility, amiability and Christian charity.
“Oh my God Bruce! What have you been doing without telling me? After this breach of trust we can’t carry on this relationship.”
The breakup – what probably happened
“You bastard Bruce – I stuck my neck out for you and now I have been sprung and will probably lose my job. You said there would be no problems – that’s it – I’m outta here!
Just don’t meow at the female lefty losers, that seems to send them running to the media yelping “sexist! sexist!”. Except for when it’s directed at a conservative female, then they’re all, what? I didn’t hear/see anything.
The left are essentially 18th century puritans so wit and irony, which are the spice of life as far as I am concerned, go straight over their heads.
Not against their opponents they aren’t.
Shane Wand termed mining execs thieves and liars because they disagreed over the issue of the mining tax.
Da Nileists are those who disagreed with the oxide tax.
Keating was the most abusive person to ever lead a political party and always attacked his opponents in the most abusive way about such things as their appearance. John Howard was a dessicated coconut for instance. He said this on the 7.30 Report no less. The left even made a musical about his abuse as they thought it witty and hilarious. Abbott is the mad monk.
Now we have some leftwing sympathizers complaining because people have referred to the Slapper as a bitch or a slut. Yea right. I’m pained about it. I’m really hurting.
Translation Jarrah of the codes and metaphors used by this guy:
1. These women of the left persuasion adher to a particular form of presentation of self that identifies them as belonging to a particular political philosophy. They eschew many of the traditional forms of feminine enhancement generally at use in western cultures. We don’t find them sexually attractive when in this mode.
2. Feminism has privileged lesbianism and an authoritarian view of how women should perceive themselves. We don’t like them much around here nor find them sexually attractive, because we think they are against liberty and freedom for women.
3. Women of the non-left persuasion tend to adher to a more ‘usual’ i.e. culturally recognizable, form of presentation of their femininity and general sexual enhancement. We find it attractive.
I think all of this comes in general under the term of ‘fair comment’. I am not insulted by the metaphors or language used.
ps. I am a feminist. A real one, not a fake left one.
There’s tons of policy discussions here. You know that.
The fact is though that you can’t really delve too deeply into policy with the leftists here because they no shit.
Just recently I tried to explain the reasons why I support a particular policy route for monetary policy. Stevie understood shit about what I was saying.
Monster has no fucking idea and the rest of the rat pack are basically idiots.
Steve C for instance is far too busy attending to the numerous demands on his time by Kimberly, the sex dole he bought over the web.
I don’t see any criticism of policy there, do you, Lizzie?
I do actually Jarrah. A critique of the type of person currently in power and running policy. Given how high feelings are on this issue, the comment is justified.
And for example we’ve had clowns show up here actually trying to sell the idea that the subsidy whores (solar and wind) are efficient energy production methods.
Fuck me we’ve seen it all.
That’s why Fisk is right. The Left have nothing to offer any discussion other than lies, stupidity and deceit.
W.A. Inc, Gillard’s W.A. slush fund, and a Russian just walks into Gillard’s blusterfest to give her a document that he also gave a W.A. Liberal Minister and one other…and then just walks out?!
Now you know it isn’t too much of a stretch that the blusterfest was actually called to justify providing security for those documents to be delivered.
I’ve heard the Russian’s and W.A Minister’s names mentioned on radio, but can’t find them written anywhere. Anyone here not handicapped with a p.c. that’s trying to die, who can find and post more details about this latest, bizarre “security breach”, like the names who delivered and who received these documents?
Look, picking out offensive misogyny from here that is then covered up as “irony” is like shooting fish in a barrel (and one with no water but just chock full of fish), but the misogyny does not even have to involve sweary words.
Here’s one of my comments from March, headed by CL’s opening comment on a news story about Sarah Fluke having a rich boyfriend:
Promiscuous and cash-strapped pricey Pill victim, Sandra Fluke
Aw, isn’t that cute. CL finds evidence of a single woman having a boyfriend, and she’s “promiscuous”.
I expect all female readers here to put their hands up and explain whether they have now, or ever in the past, had sex with a boyfriend, so that CL can give you the appropriate label. Male readers need not respond: sex with girlfriends is normal and you’re probably a poof if you haven’t done that.
Of course, you’ll notice that when it’s a young male, about the same age as Fluke, having his photos of nude hugs of some (hired? who knows) woman in Vegas splashed all over the net, he’s a legend.
I know, CL is perhaps a special example, of a 1950′s Catholic man trapped in the body of a 40 year old, but really, his sincere stupid comments about women (again – only if they are on the Left) rarely attract the attention of his half sister or any other female.
You clueless clown! The Oz has been the Austyralian newspaper business’s star performer for the ast five years, the only paper in the country to halt its circulation slide and, in fact, grow it at times, by offering readers an escape from Green Occupy Fairfax, which has become a series of propaganda rags.
If you’re going to open your stupid fucking mouth, make the effort to know what you’re talking about.
Two University of Colorado professors have devised a model to predict who will win the presidential election under current economic circumstances. The victor, they say, will be Republican Mitt Romney.
The model uses economic indicators from all 50 states to predict the race’s outcome. The forecast calls for Romney to win 320 electoral votes out of 538. It says Romney will also win virtually every state currently considered a swing state, including Colorado.
The professors who created the model, Ken Bickers from CU-Boulder and Michael Berry from CU-Denver, say it correctly forecast every winner of the electoral since 1980.
Just got a text photo from a friend of my son, he’s an apprentice(2nd year), been working night shift for BMA at a big coal port.
“$50 an hour and fishing” is the caption.
Union protected shithead thief.
But thanks for the laugh. Yesterday you compared Prince Harry to an NRL gang rapist and today you’re saying he’s actually exactly like a female Democrat Party boiler demanding free contraception.
You’re notorious for stalking female commenters, once said you wanted to physically assault Gab, desribed hospitalised death threat victim Kathy Jackson as an “attention seeker” and spent at least a fortnight attacking the sexual morals of Mrs Santorum.
You’re a morally ill person, Steve – you know that.
I know, CL is perhaps a special example, of a 1950′s Catholic man trapped in the body of a 40 year old,
So fuckface, your own offensive remark about CL’s religion etc should be ignored in your missive about CL’s alleged offensive remark about the leftist tart wanting free rubbers.
You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about, ShitFerBrains. Because you are unable to learn, you are unable to take in an explanation of the structure of the Australian media landscape — e.g. the Oz is one of the few papers in the world that does not have a hometown, you fucking idiot.
Let’s take woman A. Woman A met Julian Assange, invited him back to her flat [apartment], gave him dinner, went to bed with him, had consensual sex with him. Claims that she woke up to him having sex with her again. This is something which can happen, you know.
I mean not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion. Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you’re already in the sex game with them.
It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, “do you mind if I do it again?”. It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning. . .
It’s okay tho’ – he doesn’t have real sick beliefs like Todd Akin.
What was the document the Lying Slapper was handed?
The document was titled “How could this happen?”.
Delivered to her hand by a Russian Migration Agent, who just walked in and out, without needing to breach any security (that was supposed to be tight in the areas he entered), and also to a W.A. Minister and one other.
“I’ve been trying to contact the police but haven’t received any response,” the unidentified man said.
The man said he had also contacted ASIO and written to MPs about “foreign intelligence threats”.
This matter of circulation has been discussed here before, Gab. As I am feeling generous, I won’t even have a go at you being lazy before I provide the link.
Because we’re in the presence of congenital leftwing liars, here are circulation figures for The Australian and Fairfax. The Australian is the only paper in Australia and one of the few in the world gaining circulation and is one of the few newspapers that doesn’t have a hometown advantage. It is the only Australian broadsheet that has maintained professional standards, which have been eroded at Fairfax by cost-cutting. The Oz’s weekday circulation is about 133,000 compared with the Age and SMH at about 160,000 each — and collapsing — because they’re competing with the ABC for the unemployed Occupy market.
Circulation is as circulation does. Everywhere I go I find freebie copies of the SMH and Age. Rare to find one of The Oz. Any that there are get snatched up pretty quickly too, whereas piles of the other two lie around littering up the place.
Well yes. 180,960 & 185,061 to 127,942 (march average)
If you looked at Syd/Melb News Ltd, though it’d be 336,348 & 469,377.
We really should compare Faifax’s national daily with News’ national daily.
Fairfax claims that The Daily Telegraph and The Australian maintained circulation by giving away cheap and free copies. It said:
“The Daily Telegraph and The Australian are claiming only slight reductions in their print circulation figures.
“Yet an analysis of their sales channels reveals that major jumps in high volume, low yield circulation have propped up their claimed results to mask a slump in retail sales.
“Their figures conceal a major switch into high-volume channels.
“Fairfax metro dailies in Sydney and Melbourne have been shedding their exposure to these unprofitable channels since 2011 and raising prices as the publisher seeks to achieve sustainable circulation for its print business.”
This matter of circulation has been discussed here before, Gab. As I am feeling generous, I won’t even have a go at you being lazy before I provide the link.
Nothing in your link proves the Australian is outsold by the the SMH and the Age, SFB.
Also, I was directing my request to that slimy green febro as I saw he made the stupid statement.
Also, I’m not being lazy, you stupid prick. It is etiquette to provide back-up for one’s assertions/outrageous claims. Something you are incapable of understanding as, quite frankly, you are very dumb and uneducated.
Leftoids cherry picking the data again. What a surprise (not)
On any rational comparison you would have to put the Oz against the Fin Review (Oz wins), the Age against the Herald-Sun (the Hun wins) and the SMH against the Telegraph (Tele wins)
Seeing a pattern here? I am. Buy News Ltd, not FauxFacts
Stepford, you moron.. you’re comparing applies with oranges.
You’re suggesting that because ford sells more cars they have to be better than BMWs. WTF?
The OZ is not really competing for(increasingly) the inner city living public sector working, Greens voting bumpkin egghead that Fairfax is forced to scurry for. In fact after Feb. next year the Oz will be the only highbrow broadsheet left while the two Fairfax sunken mastheads will be competing with News Ltd’s tabloids.
Steve, to respond to you is against my better judgement and stated intention, but I have worked around the traps of media enough to know that circulation figures are amongst the most dodgy figures ever known to humankind. So Fairfax would say that, wouldn’t they? I go on what I see, which is piles of unread Age and SMH and no freebie Oz to be found.
“My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way; to increasing occupational health and safety; to improving the conditions of the member of the union,” Ms Gillard said.
The best way to get workplace reform is to elect my boyfriend.
It just takes the biscuit for all the lies spouted today. The statement has zero credibility to anyone except people who wish it to be true.
Nice touch with the red shoulder-padded jacket too, Gillard Even though it looks dreadful against her skin tone and hair, someone is aware of colours and the subtle message.
All up, a well rehearsed academy-winning performance. Of no substance.
As I’ve said in the post below, Julia Gillard’s fiery defence of her role in the AWU scandal was brilliant politically and theatrically.
It was masterly how she made the most insignificant error in a minor colour story in The Australian seem a massive error which discredited weeks of meticulously accurated coverage.
It was terrific how she made out the controversy started with the utterly scurrilous blog of Larry Pickering, with a base media just recycling his smelly wares, when serious journalists, politicians, lawyers and unionists have raised serious questions about this for a long time.
It was effective, albeit a little desperate, to play the sexism card, potraying the criticism of her as misogynist and sexist – and then to play the woman betrayed. Sensational, and you can see how that will dovetail into an attack on Tony Abbott.
Again, it was clever tactically to make The Australian a villain, to fit in with the wicked Murdoch media narrative to rally the Left. Never mind that 2UE, 3AW, the Financial Review and, belatedly, Sydney Morning Herald were also demanding answers from her.
And it was a masterstroke to spring the press conference on journalists who thought they were there for an announcement on the new refugee intake, and then stand there until the questions from the largely unprepared petered out in the only opportunity Gillard says she’ll ever give them.
I salute John McTernan, Gillard’s media director. A masterpiece.
I think he was impressed by McTernan’s strategy, candy. Which was good when you look dispassionately at the various elements of her performance. But Bolt does go on to explain that the substance of her performance – her answers – left much to be desired.
You’re an irretrievable idiot, ShitFer. Go to bed. Or write a blog in that other lonely cyberspace you inhabit that no-one reads, to wit:
Opinion Dominion, 18/08/12
In any event, it’s time to give myself another burst of mild self congratulation for maintaining this eclectic place for so long. It’s funny how after doing it for this length of time, I forget quiet (sic) a few of the things I have said in years past, but I am happy to say that most of the time, upon re-reading old posts, I am pleasantly surprised at their quality.
Gab, I’ve provided you with numbers, as have others. I made a simple statement which is clearly correct.
You seem to be suggesting that it can’t be right, because maybe the SMH and Age give away 50,000 or so copies of their paper each and every week day. This seems, shall we say, improbable.
No, the appropriate response, if you want to maintain any credibility whatsoever is: “oh, I hadn’t realised that.” And then come up with whatever other point about other News Ltd papers you want to.
“I salute John McTernan, Gillard’s media director. A masterpiece.”
A bit over the top?
I think so Candy. There was an air of desperation about her that didn’t assist her at all in my view. Certainly she played the minor glitch in the Oz up very well, and got away with it where she should have been quickly brought to heel. The rest of it was just dissembling; same old naive and misunderstood little me, and if new information comes out about the conveyancing when she has claimed she did nothing more she is really toast.
She also cannot just declare that this is her answer and from now on it is end of story. It is not. Parliament is where she needs to be questioned and where she needs to locate her truthful replies: into Hansard.
Interesting that Chris Uhlmann didn’t give her an easy ride out of strife on 7.30 tonight in his round up. Protecting his reputation, I suspect. Leigh Sales doesn’t seem to mind too much about hers.
Since the doomlord, in his wisdom and omnipotence, will not ban those who continually devalue this blog by appearing every day, ad nauseum, with their try-ons, distracting you all with their blatantly deceptive talking points, and since abuse, while satisfying in the short term and approved of by the said doomlord, has not proven to be an effective remedy, I call upon you all to stop addressing the following, who are just jerking off in their own minds with the pleasure of being pests: SfB, Monty, Febro, Hammygar, and any others you care to deem of similar worthlessness.It’s an old adage, and I too have been guilty of not following it: don’t feed the trolls.
I have seen more than enough to know that they don’t have anything to offer except vexatious clutter. They keep doing it because it works. They should be given no soapbox here, nor should they derail threads, which seems to be their only purpose in life. If they have talent, their own blogs will become popular. (guffaw!)
During a 2003 press conference, Barack Obama indicated that he thought abortion should be legal in all situations, even late in pregnancy
The Washington Post reports that President Obama is running his reelection campaign as a “culture warrior,” trying to cast his opponents as extremists on such issues as abortion in the case of rape and requiring religious institutions to pay for contraception
Sensible words Blogstrop. We should have warning signs come up every so often, like they have in outdoor restaurants about birds: do not feed the trolls.
To avoid the possibility I am off to have a bubble bath, and Da Hairy Ape can come in and scrub the bubbles off my back.
Feminism, you see. Guys doing nice helpful things for girls.
In any event, it’s time to give myself another burst of mild self congratulation for maintaining this eclectic place for so long. It’s funny how after doing it for this length of time, I forget quiet (sic) a few of the things I have said in years past, but I am happy to say that most of the time, upon re-reading old posts, I am pleasantly surprised at their quality.
sfb: would this be a “highly mannered way of chatting about yourself”?
Thanks Gab at 7.07. A great resource. I heard The PM say this today. Who, I wonder, could she be referring to?
PM: I paid for my renovations. And, well, in terms of people who continue to circulate these claims, will the misogynists
and the nut jobs on the Internet continue to circulate them? Yes, they will, and it wouldn’t matter what I said and
it wouldn’t matter what documents were produced and it wouldn’t matter what anybody else said; they will pursue
this claim for motivations of their own which are malicious and not in any way associated with the facts.
In terms of the conduct of more mainstream media, well, you are in a better position to answer that than me, but I’ve
been on my feet now for, what, I can’t quite recall, 50 minutes, something like that, taking every question that the
journalist elite of this country have got for me. If that doesn’t end the matter, then with respect I don’t know what
would.
Be really afraid – we should use gene technology to create ‘ethical’ babies.
The academic behind this thought bubble is editor-in-chief of the Journal of Medical Ethics, the one that published a paper advocating post-natal abortion. Savulescu is a fellow-traveller of Peter Singer and similar Green-slime.
Ok free a little earlier than I though. First this:
Just another bloody lawyer; I too am just another bloody lawyer, albeit a (former) academic whose forays into the real world of legal practice was limited. Most of that work was for free – for social welfare recipients, some town planning, and bits of administrative law. This got up the nose of both the judges and private practice lawyers, and your jibe ‘free advice is worth every cent you paid for it’ was often directed my way. It is both insulting and reflects a fear of competition. It does not do you credit.
Raifki, blow it out your arse.
My ‘jibe’ is a well known maxim amongst practicing lawyers. It broadly is akin to the US expression ‘the view from the cheap seats” or the reference to having ‘skin in the game’. It also is a ward against the effect of San Sebastian ie if you haven’t paid for the advice, rely upon it at your own peril.
As for getting up the nose of Judges that is just righteous preening: ‘Oh look at me I stand up for the oppressed’. I can’t comment on your performance but self regarding types usually get up the nose of the Judge because of their bumbling or time wasting even when they have a point, actually especially when they have a point. Not because the judges are against the ‘little guy’ but because an experienced practitioner would have done the job in a tenth of the time and everyone else could be getting on with more productive work.
In any event, it’s time to give myself another burst of mild self congratulation for maintaining this eclectic place for so long. It’s funny how after doing it for this length of time
Is Shitfer blogging about his masturbatory mastery again?
A former University of Nebraska women’s basketball star faked an attack in which she allegedly carved anti-gay slurs into her skin because she felt it would spark change, police said Tuesday.
Nothing in your link proves the Australian is outsold by the the SMH and the Age, SFB
.Steve, Gab either can’t read or can’t add up (or perhaps both), I’ve noticed that before. There’s not much point in providing links with actual numbers in them.
There is so much to despise in this story: the clueless thief; the effort to convince the cops to do their job; or the inability of the magistrate to tell the inane defense to take his line of argument and stick it in his orifice. From the Canberra times, naturally.
“I think all of this comes in general under the term of ‘fair comment’.”
I’m surprised that is how you perceive the words, but it’s all subjective so I’m not going to argue. However, it does mean you can’t possibly claim that anything Steve has written is anything less than “fair comment”, considering how incredibly tame his comments are compared to that mouth-frothing tirade I quoted.
“who were those comments from Jarrah?”
I think Mk50, Infidel, and Winston, but that’s from memory, don’t quote me.
“Jarrah, what upsets you about use of the word ‘bitch’?”
I’m not upset. It was just the first word that occurred to me to look for as evidence that Lizzie’s contention – that the sometimes deliberate denigration of women on Catallaxy is “mannered and ironic” – is laughable nonsense.
Dot our Prime Minister’s prospects are a complicated question. In short I would not be betting the farm that she will face the business end of an indictment over her “Days of being Young & Naive”.
I will develop my views when and if I get the urge to post on it. Now before Monty & SFB orgasm themselves to death this doesn’t mean that YN did no wrong but simply that the prospects of a case being assembled sufficient to be taken to a jury is highly unlikely.
Ok, first I think you can forget about a conspiracy charge. Conspiracy is a bugger of a charge. It is very hard case to make to a jury. In my jurisdiction it has been about twenty years or more since any serious conspiracy charge has been brought. The view of the office of the DPP has been either charge the underlying offense or charge an attempt or don’t bother.
The registration of the association itself was probably irregular or might amount to a summary offence. It is important to remember that generally speaking there are no time limits to bringing indictable offences there most certainly are for summary offences, so even if YN did commit such an offence time has likely long since run.
Now since we have the ALP attack dogs out and about on this issue I will stress that this represents my private views on the matter and this is not intended as legal advice to be acted upon by any person.
SteveC, good to see you back. Please take over telling these people they are wrong, embarrassing the former credible name of the Right in Australia, and routinely offensive to boot, while I go find some material for my quality blog?
Judith has a good column (cutting and humourous) about the FWA:
n addition to requiring members of the tribunal to refrain from commenting in public, he has cut a swath through the organisation by appointing new panel heads – some with virtually no experience in the organisation. He has established a series of key performance indicators – so business-like – by establishing maximum timeframes in which matters must be finalised.
With the organisation now stuffed to the gills with Labor mates, perhaps a bit more efficiency is the least the long-suffering taxpayer can expect.
But the fact that the outcome of a matter can be predicted by knowing the identity of the members of Fair Work Australia dealing with it (which itself is a process that is manipulated internally) means we need to ditch the term “independent umpire” when it comes to describing Fair Work Australia.
And changing its name, which is the president’s preference, will not make a jot of difference.
There’s no point sfb. The PM put it well: And, well, in terms of people who continue to circulate these claims, will the misogynists
and the nut jobs on the Internet continue to circulate them? Yes, they will, and it wouldn’t matter what I said and it wouldn’t matter what documents were produced and it wouldn’t matter what anybody else said; they will pursue
this claim for motivations of their own which are malicious and not in any way associated with the facts.
You can substitute “this claim” with a large variety of talking points pursued here.
Just one observation for both the non-lawyers and those lawyers who do not practice in crime. There is a distinction you learn very quickly in crime, which is the difference between what I like to refer as the Public Bar test and evidence. In the Pub we all like to hold forth about what we ‘know’, in Court we are solely concerned with we can prove.
Just keep in mind that on what is out in the public arena you may (quite reasonably) form the opinion that YN & the rest of the cast of the Mob Family formerly known as the ALP are shady, that does not automatically translate to an ability to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. That’s what Royal Commissions are for!
If we allow Ms Gillard to frame this as a prosecution and insist on a criminal standard of proof, then she wins. The likelihood of a prosecution, let alone a conviction, is bugger all.
Ms Gillard wants to be able to say “look, no charges, no conviction, all is good”.
All is not good.
Previous posters here (JC maybe?) have suggested that her defence amounts to “I am an incompetent idiot”. Quite.
The proper standard to be applied is political, not criminal. The court of public opinion has a lesser standard of proof and is more likely to convict.
it wouldn’t matter what documents were produced and it wouldn’t matter what anybody else said; they will pursue
this claim for motivations of their own which are malicious and not in any way associated with the facts.
She hasn’t produced any documents. But others are about to fix that, with facts.
Jarrah, last check in before bed. Bubble bath very restorative, by the way.
Steve from Brisbane makes ‘fair comment’ on his terms if you wish, I’ll grant that. It is what his comments say that is the point at issue. In terms of the views of people on this blog, Steve spouts forth nonsense. He gets ‘fair comment’ back in return. You’ve granted the subjective nature of perceptions of linguistic intent and choice of metaphor. Give up now. I don’t accept that ‘mannered and ironic’ as a mode of analysis of the use of language is ‘nonsense’, and let us recall too that it was SfB who introduced the concept of ‘mannered’ in a denigratory comment concerning my contributions to this blog.
I respect your comments more than those of other trolls, but you are still trolling, so I will apply the Blogstop Doctrine; will anyway, as I am heading for the arms of Morpheus right now. Dang metaphors, they’re everywhere aren’t they?
In another life I would have opted to be a linguist.
Sure ya tayk da blue pill, da story ends, ya wayk up in your bed and believe whatever ya wanta believe. Ya tayk da red pill, ya stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Still punting that Mc Clelland will be the next ALP Prime Minister. He may have to be the second next one, after Rudd loses to Abbot, and he becomes opposition leaders and framing himself as a reforming leader who took out the trash.
Origin boss on ABC just said green schemes add around $300 to average energy bill in NSW. Half carbon tax, rest combination of RET and other green schemes. Also says RET is effectively 25% instead of 20% because it was set prior to GFC when demand was higher.
Yesterday, Gillard said she had not signed the document to set up the association and had only provided legal advice. Further, she said if the fund supported “trade union officials who would stand on a platform about reform and improvements in workplaces”, then it had fulfilled its stated role. But this later explanation, at her hour-long media conference, remains difficult to reconcile with the facts.
The question that might have elicited the devil in this detail was not asked by the press gallery yesterday, but it revolves around a simple point. The reality is that if any of the documents lodged with the West Australian government agency had disclosed that the association’s true purpose was as a “slush fund” to help in the election of union officials, it would not have been registered.
Gillard said: “My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way, to increasing occupational health and safety, to improving the conditions of the members of the union. That was my understanding of the purpose of the association, and so I provided legal advice for the association.”
There it is. If Gillard had given the WA government agency the same answer as she gave yesterday, the bureaucrats in Perth would likely have rejected the application outright. They would have seen it for what it was: a “slush fund” for the purpose of raising funds for the election of union officials.
Gillard’s explanations on this will raise more questions about trust, integrity and professionalism.
SteveC. Pointless to the end. How are the States and China going on their promises? You know, the promises you gave a lot of weight. You know, the ones that were going to back Gillard and show us how mighty she was. You talk as much shit as StevieLiar, the retard who can’t stop typing. Anytime you come to a persons aid they need to have a shower.
StevieLiar. Time to go to bed. You need to get up,early in the morning to comment on a non story. Cockhead.
Confirmed. Gillard and Conroy will punish the media [i.e. News Ltd] via reforms that will be shaped by Julia Gillard’s personal dispute with the press over coverage of her past and criticism of the Gillard government in general.
I can only assume that Gab can interpret a denial as a confirmation, and speculation that the main cabinet figures don’t favour the Finkelstein model as meaning they do.
The 70-year-old Mr Spyridis flatly rejected allegations he had been paid by the Australian Workers Union for the work on Ms Gillard’s inner-Melbourne property.
“The union has got nothing to do with Julia’s payment for the house,” he said. “This is nonsense. Julia paid me. This is the true story.
“I don’t want to cover for anybody.”
Mr Spyridis’ statement – that Ms Gillard paid for the renovations on her property, which she sold in 2007 – clears the air over allegations that were first raised in the Victorian parliament.
well, no, it doesn’t “clear the air”. All we now know is Gillard handed him two bank cheques but still unknown is the account the cheques were drawn against.
Recall that Con/Kon first went to the AWU “looking for payment for the account” but was sent away “by the AWU” and “and without explanation an account from Con was put in my letter box last week, so that’s the first account that I’ve had from him.”
Is this what caused the AWU to become suspicious?
Why did Con/Kon first go to the AWU seeking payment for Gillard’s fence/windows?
Why did Gillard require an “explanation” from Con for dropping off the invoice in her letter box?
Rattner himself admitted late last year, in a speech to the Detroit Economic Club: “We should have asked the UAW (the United Auto Workers union) to do a bit more. We did not ask any UAW member to take a cut in their pay.” Non-union employees of GM spinoff Delphi lost their pensions. UAW members didn’t.
The green schemes need to be mercilessly stripped out of electricity and everything else. They are a perversion, just like their devious and deluded sponsors in the green left animal farmyard.
“oh, my!”
Did he take his beloved wife to an eatery with unflued gas heaters? The beast! It can’t be a green left hangout with such dangerous emissions spewing forth and poisoning the populace.
Sarc off.
The left’s Rupert Murdoch fantasy to become a David Williamson play for the Melbourne Theatre Company:
Williamson, the multi-award winning writer of more than 60 plays and films, said he jumped on board after being offered a “big canvas” to do as he pleased.
“Suddenly there was only one image in my brain and that was Rupert,” Williamson said.
“He’s the biggest canvas of all and a remarkable Australian whatever you think.”
Rupert tells the story of Murdoch’s professional life, from inheriting one newspaper in Adelaide to creating a worldwide media empire.
Williamson said it touched on the News of the World phone-hacking scandal and resulting Leveson inquiry, but was more about creating a great character role.
“I’m not interested in staging an ideological debate,” he said.
“I want to get inside Rupert’s skin. I want to capture the essence of Rupert, the qualities that took him from a tiny little backwater to king of the world.”
Who’d have thunk? Pissant South American country run by a leftwing dictator cold-shouldered by Britain over Assange:
The Ecuadorian government has expressed “surprise and disappointment” that Britain has made no attempt to contact them since Julian Assange was granted asylum one week ago.
Officials at the embassy where the 41-year-old is holed up said they expected the Foreign Office to seek talks after William Hague called for calm after a dramatic spike in tensions between London and Quito.
Instead the British government has ignored them for a week with no official or back-channel communications as the tense stand-off continues with little sign of resolution. The stark admission is an indication of how low relations have sunk between the two countries since Mr Assange walked into Ecuador’s embassy two months ago and requested asylum.
Maybe they got a passel of “carbon offsets” [sic] for their wedding, Bloggy, so they can carbon-sin like that and not worry….
I didn’t even know where they’d got to (I don’t follow him on Twitter) until someone mentioned that Crikey gave him and his BoltBlairWatch Blog Mk. V or whatever the boot and he and his lovely missus are now living in Wagga, bravely taking on the REALLY big guys like this lovely young lady reporter at the Wagga Daily Advertiser. I know, right?
Once upon a time they were going to bring down Andrew Bolt, Tim Blair, and probably the whole Murdoch empire. Now they’re down to monstering sweet young things at the Wagga Daily Advertiser.
Spot, new Twitter accounts should generate a mental health warning: “Trolling leftist brain-damage victims have control fantasies about this communications device!”
John Faine explains how union lawyers do not have no responsibility for the enabling fraud, if they are smart enough to create enough plausible deniability.
Uhlmann: … I will say this, Jon, after having read yesterday the transcript of the interview that Julia Gillard did with Peter Gordon … I do have some questions … Now one of the things that Julia Gillard did was to set up a workplace reform association … the purpose of that workplace reform association, as it was declared, was to do things for workers it turns out that in Julia Gillard’s own mind in that interview it was a slush fund to re-elect union leaders. Now is there not an issue with that?
Faine: No, it’s what you do as a lawyer … you act for union officials who ask you to make sure things are legal which they otherwise might want to use in different ways … and what she was doing there was exactly what Lindsay Tanner, Bill Shorten – I mean half the Labor Party were union lawyers … it’s not your fault that your client turns out to … be a shonk.
Remember people, to the left it is only a crime if you get caught.
Whoops, that comes from Cut & Paste, so while we’re at it here is the next question from the admirable Uhlmann.
Uhlmann: Even if you knew at the time that you were setting up a workplace reform association that wasn’t actually a workplace reform association that you want to make it look like a workplace reform association … oh to be in the legal world where you can negotiate the truth … Why did you leave the legal profession, Jon? Was it because you got tired of setting up slush funds?
Faine: … I still cannot, and I know The Australian will maybe make it into Cut and Paste for the third day in a row …
Spot, I just sent that kid an email of support. Like her, I started my career in the bush. Oh, irony of ironies: she’s a UC grad and therefore probably a former student of Finkelstein fascist Matthew Ricketson.
“Trolling leftist brain-damage victims have control fantasies about this communications device!”
I would laugh, but I can see a study showing up telling us the hazards of twitter to the mental health of the weak – due to Da Murdoch brain ownership syndrome.
So getting back to the Prime Liar, she admitted to setting up a slush fund, a term that has no legal definition, but the worst kinds of connotations in voter land. She assembled a press conference about asylum seekers, and then took it over to defend her scandalous behaviour to appear unscripted and ad lib, and her audience was the laughably light weight, politically correct, doctrinaire Canberra press gallery. And her reason for doing so was to respond to one “nutty blogger”.
This morning she is being lauded as being prime ministerial. Laughable.
Imagine if a liberal PM got up and said they’d set up a shell company for someone to avoid paying worker entitlements. What would the press be saying right now ?
On a more positive note, and as Julia has also shown, true love is blind, isn’t it? Nice to see, in the Wagga iteration. I wish this loving chap and his wife all the best, in a life outside politics. I’m never one to begrudge, or refuse credit where it is due. Have to admire a man who remembers anniversaries and a woman who’s definitely doing it for her man.
Fran Kelly let slip a real pearler this morning.
During a long segment on “the” press conference yesterday, and in the context of so much chatter about Tony Abbott not reading things, she said she hadn’t seen the PM’s press conference! Amazing.
The ABC loved Lisa of Channel 9 giving Tony a hard time this morning – so much they re-ran it on radio again and again. What is it about “commercial” TV that makes them so similar to the ABC in political commentary? Same school of journalism I guess.
This morning she is being lauded as being prime ministerial. Laughable.
You describe the gap between the Canberra/Media insider class and the rest of society well Keith.
This looks like another carbin tax / illegal immigrant issue.
Seriously, ask people you meet this weekend if they think it is a triumph that the PM set up slush funds for union crooks to divert money (and it looks like some money from the WA state government).
By geez that bank cheque Gillard used sounds dodgy.
Outside of a car loan, mortgage or business transaction (presumably loans most of the time), who has ever paid for personal expenses with a bank cheque?
If I could be so impertinent as to plagiarise you, Rabz, after yesterday’s $2.7 billion loss driven by writedowns. FauxFacts death watch as Gina sells down.
Maybe someone has raised this … but, might Gillard be asked: You say your were betrayed by your boyfriend Wilson – did it never occur to you that a man who would leave his wife and 2 kids IN WA might be someone who was untrustworthy?
And another: Having been betrayed by one married man who went back to the wife, did you hesitate to begin a sexual and social relationship with Craig Emerson?
It is time for a conservative womens’ group to begin to attack Gillard about her disrespect for families. We can’t win if we fight with one hand tied behind our back.
Why can’t we get lefties who are real men that do real work like Ben Chiefly? Not some fuckwit dropouts with a bad haircut, or loathsome “human rights lawyers” that do nothing but participate in enforcing anti free speech laws?
Looks like the market doesn’t value that “charter of independence leftism detirmination to destroy a going concern” as much as the Lefties tell them they should.
Hey, seeing the price is cheap, seeing the journo’s value that charter so much, do you think they’ll put their money where their mouths are at and their pool their super and get those bargin price shares?
This looks like another carbin tax / illegal immigrant issue.
Yes Token, and it’s not going away, however much the Liar’s party, and media apologists wish it would.
Gillard’s “once only” declaration has guaranteed her future embarrassment when it continues to get raised and she remains silent.
It is time for a conservative womens’ group to begin to attack Gillard about her disrespect for families. We can’t win if we fight with one hand tied behind our back.
You are correct, this is a legitimate question, and correct women msut present it to fend of the sexist crap that gets thrown around.
Do we have women tough and brave enough to do it? [Bronwyn Bishop aside]
Michelle Devine has noted how vicious and personal the women on the left get as they attack in massive packs any conservative woman that stands up for any matter.
The Libs need to accept that Abbott will never get a fair go from the zombie media because almost of all of them personally hate him. So don’t suck up to the intellectually disabled from failing minority newspapers and the government media who don’t have the brain cells to analyse his work dispassionately. Never forget: they do not represent the voters of middle Australia.
“It is time for a conservative womens’ group to begin to attack Gillard about her disrespect for families. We can’t win if we fight with one hand tied behind our back.”
I’ve tried to post it on ABolt, very politely worded, but they won’t post it.
Err, Lizzie, do you actually know anything about wally sear?
Rabz, don’t know much, I’ll take your word for what he’s like and agree that his (their?) chasing of the young beauty is despicable – What I said dependent on them being out of politics. Purely in relation to his marital life.
What should I say? She’s butt-ugly and how can he face her in the morning?
I’m better than that, I hope.
Leftoids across the nation will be claiming victory over Rinehart. Rinehart offsets this capital loss against other capital gains – result : less capital gains tax, and their beloved media organ sinks below break up value. Way to win lefties.
I’m just enjoying the schadenfreude – wally sear, self flagellator, cat pleasurer, epic beta male embarrassment, utterly useless barrasite, dumpee and now resident of wagga wagga along with his well upholstered new ‘squeeze’.
JON Faine with ABC1′s 7:30 host Chris Uhlmann yesterday:
THE other issue, of course, is The Australian newspaper’s obsession with devoting acres of space to trying to find just some foundation for the stories that in particular in the blogosphere have been circulating about what led to Julia Gillard leaving Slater & Gordon 17 years ago … I wonder what you think because I’m not independent and I’m not at arm’s length from some of this but you are.
He’s all about the marriage thing these days, Keith. Why recently he appears to have discovered a blog post written last year by a lesbian who’s not all that enamored with the push for the “gay marriage” thing, and he went right off. Actually called her an “Aunty Tom”.
Did he get a gig with legal aid? I can’t imagine a country town has too many “human rights lawyers” in demand.
No one in their right mind would use him in a trial, they’d get a QC from Sydney.
I’ve met crown prosecutors from country towns and they would not have a bar of that fool (nor would most barristers have a bar of the idiot leftists who get onto the bench from a solicitor background).
Jesus Christ. Don’t tell me Fatty O Barrel appointed him as a circuit magistrate?
It could be worse. He might get a job at the cow college, corrupting young minds.
He’s the type of bloke you make ambassador to countries like St Kitts and Nevis, or possibly Sierra Leone.
who has ever paid for personal expenses with a bank cheque?
I just said this on Bolt, Dot. It will be interesting to see if it gets up, from me or anyone else. Here’s my bank cheque for the hopeless renos, Mate.
Dr George Varnavides, 70, was sentenced to three months’ jail today after pleading guilty to being in contempt of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal …
Outside the hearing, counsel for Dr Varnavides, Jeremy Sear, said he did not know if his client would appeal.
Check the sock-puppetry in the comments of that one, too. Classic.
Apropos of anniversaries and the male of the species.
Da Hairy One just off to an important meeting and had to fill in a form, requiring the date of our wedding. He had to check it with me!!! Dat’s right, isn’t it? he asked hopefully (anxiously?). Well, it was in the right month. Ball park, I said.
Thanks for the links about that other ardent lover, sdog. The education of young Lizzie. Continues apace.
These facts should be put before a jury; having heard the arguments from the prosecution and defense, they and they alone, get to decide whether the fact she was having a personal relationship with BW at the time of her setting up the association and during the commission of his nefarious activities, the fact that she didn’t open a file S&G and thus left her partners ignorant of her actions involving their major client, the fact she paid for some or all of her renovations with bank cheques, and so on, amount to evidence of a guilty mind.
THE West Australian government will investigate whether it provided more than $380,000 to a company for training programs in the 1990s and whether the funds were then misused by a union run by Julia Gillard’s former boyfriend.
Premier Colin Barnett yesterday indicated the government would seek to recover the money if this was the case.
The West Australian newspaper reported yesterday that according to a 1996 affidavit filed in the NSW Industrial Relations Court in 1996, the Labor state government provided $385,000 to construction, mining and services company Thiess Contracting.
The funds, which were then reportedly given to an Australian Workers Union Association, were to be used “for the financing of training schemes and were intended to be spent by the union for that purpose”.
But in 1995, during an interview with the partners of the law firm she then worked for Slater & Gordon, Ms Gillard said the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association was a “slush fund” for the re-election of union officials.
@db I think I can confidently say this will never, ever end up in court with a jury. The most any of us can wish for is a royal commission in a year or two.
ScoopDog: ShitFerBrainsRUs (which has run out of subjects since its latest posts are mostly about food) has two readers: SteveC (who trolls here) and none other than TimT! And, no, I don’t wish to donate any more page views than were required to establish what a pointless existence he leads.
‘I’d advise that you talk to General McRaven, who’s in charge of our Special Ops. I think he has a point of view in terms of how deeply
I care about what these folks do each and every day to protect our freedom.’
The difficulty with this is that William McRaven is and admiral not a general. As a SEAL, he is member of the US Navy, not US Army or US Marines.
Obama has made mistakes with military terminology before. In February 2010, he mispronounced ‘corpsman’ – as ‘corpse-man’ instead of ‘core-man’ several times.
Last year, he mixed up two Medal of Honor recipients, saying that ‘Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honour to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously’.
In fact, Obama was referring to Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta. Obama had presented a posthumous Medal of Honor to the parents of SFC Monti, who was killed in action in June 2006, in September 2009.
The Medal of Honor is the highest United States award for valour. It’s the equivalent of the Victoria Cross. In the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the names of recipients are seared on the hearts of many Americans.
Some servicemen have criticised Obama for omitting their ranks, as he did with Monti. When Staff Sergeant Giunta received his Medal of Honor, Obama called him ‘Sal’ and ad libbed: ‘I really like this guy’. After hanging the medal around his neck, Obama did not salute him but gave him a hug.
I can’t work out whether or not this letter in The Oz is brilliant sarcasm or real:
I FEEL full of admiration for Julia Gillard after reading about her renovator’s nightmare. She is running the country and has little family support, yet she showed perfect equanimity when dealing with bumbling tradesmen such as Bill the Greek.
Many women in her situation would have felt like throwing a tantrum, but Gillard just calmly moved forward and went to work for John Brumby.
Keep in mind she is daily confronted by Tony Abbott equipped with a supportive family and a united Coalition, while Gillard has to perform a highwire act placating a divided Labor caucus, the Greens and the independents. What a woman; doff your hats to her everyone.
I don’t think you know what the word means, Lizzie. I’m not making inflammatory comments with the sole purpose of provoking a reaction. That’s what febro does, what hammygar pretends to do, and what m0nty does occasionally.
Labor was in power in WA when “slush fund” was established there and $380,000 donated via Theiss?
Labor was voted out in February 1993. $67,722 house deposit cheque was drawn on the “slush fund” bank account on 18th March 1993.
val majkus 24 Aug 12 @ 10.26am
THE West Australian government will investigate whether it provided more than $380,000 to a company for training programs in the 1990s and whether the funds were then misused by a union run by Julia Gillard’s former boyfriend.
The German chancellor today launched a bold marketing campaign with the slogan: “I want Europe”.
“Europe is not just a matter of the intellect – Europe is and remains above all a matter of the heart,” she said in a video clip which launched a nationwide campaign. She added: “We have [European integration] to thank for our peace, our prosperity.”
If this is the best that the Eurocrats can come up with to rally the German taxpayers to write blank cheques in perpetuity to levelise the EU finances – then Le Project may well be staring down the barrel of oblivion.
She may well regret those words about peace and prosperity as Club Med is crushed economically.
I’m not making inflammatory comments with the sole purpose of provoking a reaction.
Agree, you’re trying to get analysis. So it’s not your ‘sole purpose’. Still inflammatory at times though, intentionally so. I don’t mind. Creates interest. SoB is usually sheerly oppositional, a difficult teenager living in a middle-aged man.
By the looks of this response she seems like a bit of a weapon.
She gives it to the Emily’s Listers nicely:
Because this was a payment that was non-discriminatory between mothers in the paid workforce and unwaged mothers at home, Emily’s List feminists have been frothing at the mouth ever since and have been determined to end its non-discriminatory nature.
Lo and behold, once they got their very own Emily’s List candidate installed as Prime Minister in The Lodge, the discrimination between career mothers and unwaged mothers began. The latter get $3,000 less than career mothers do via Paid Parental Leave.
Writing negatively about Emily Listers and now a sarcastic letter to the Hate media? That’s it, she’s on the list, Judge Finky will have something to say to her.
BILLIONAIRE mining magnate Clive Palmer wants Premier Campbell Newman and his government to donate to a new charity that will help sacked public servants.
Mr Palmer, Queensland’s richest man, announced on Friday he would donate $250,000 to the public sector union Together to create The Hope Fund, which will provide affected members with counselling and vocational training.
what amounts to $12.50 per head, it’s a useless gesture designed to make Palmer look good and Newman not. Palmer needs to seek medical attention.
Babette Francis (perhaps was) the wife of (perhaps late?) Charlie Francis, and independent minded QC who represented the Liberals in the Vic Upper House. He was not afraid to take up the cause of the losers in our society. Nor has Babette. Maybe her interventions are a sign she is prepared to take on Gillard on ‘family issues’. Given her ethnicity and colour (I think she’s Indian), she will be harder to denigrate as a ‘nut-job’.
BTW – I wonder if we will hear from the Commonwealth Discrimination Commissioner about the use of ‘nut-job’? If not, then we can act on the basis that this term is now part of current political speech. OTOH, if that person is Graeme Innes, then he might be distracted by the time he is putting into a complaint he made under the legislation he administers – including seeking compensation – because NSW railway employees do not always announce a destination station clearly enough. (I heard him interviewed on the ABC.)
BILLIONAIRE mining magnate Clive Palmer wants Premier Campbell Newman and his government to donate to a new charity that will help sacked public servants.
Mr Palmer, Queensland’s richest man, announced on Friday he would donate $250,000 to the public sector union Together to create The Hope Fund, which will provide affected members with counselling and vocational training.
Jarrah, You’re not a troll. The people who come here simply to oppose everything this blog is about are trolls. We are paying millions of dollars per annum to finance The Drum for those tax-eating morons. The least they could do is use it and leave us alone.
Monty, it’s tranferred to another thread. Do keep up. Trust you to be impressed by TV-inspired political tactics rather than substance. Now piss off, have a donut and shut up.
The next bit will be tricky for Gillard and her frothing zombies: how to bail out Fairfax with hundreds of taxpayer millions while simultaneously abolishing press freedom.
Generally, that word gets thrown around a lot by people who simply don’t like what is being written (see blogstrop and Tom above).
Don’t try to belittle me, Jarrah.
The people who I named (you weren’t one, but SteveC should have been included) are deliberately seeking to disrupt and devalue this place, and as long as they are allowed to by the management they will. End of story.
Bucking protocol, President Obama and the Democrats are planning a full-scale assault on Republicans next week during their convention.
Presidential candidates have traditionally kept a low profile during their opponent’s nominating celebration, but Democrats are throwing those rules out the window in an attempt to spoil Mitt Romney’s coronation as the GOP nominee.
President Obama, Vice President Biden and leading congressional Democrats have all scheduled high-profile events next week to counter-program the Republican gathering in Tampa, Fla.
Even first lady Michelle Obama is in on the act, scheduling an appearance on the “David Letterman Show” smack in the middle of Romney’s nominating bash.
The next bit will be tricky for Gillard and her frothing zombies: how to bail out Fairfax with hundreds of taxpayer millions while simultaneously abolishing press freedom.
There is one problem regarding regulating the media for them though: Where in the Constitution does it even tangentially grant the federal government the right to “regulate” the written media?
President Obama, Vice President Biden and leading congressional Democrats have all scheduled high-profile events next week to counter-program the Republican gathering in Tampa, Fla.
Which has 37 comments, compared to the thousands of comments that the issue has had devoted to it up to now on the Cat. Gillard stopped it, dead in its tracks.
“I haven’t had a change to read the transcript; I haven’t had a chance to compare what has precisely been stated or is known to be a fact with what the prime minister said about it,” you explained.
Abbott has a lot on his plate, apparently, so he doesn’t even have time to read the transcript of the Gillard presser. Shouldn’t he have been watching it live on Parliament House CCTV? What was he doing instead?
Maybe he was ringing around the backbench shoring up votes for the forthcoming spill due to concerns over the polls.
They are just biding their time, waiting for the right moment for the no confidence motion.
LOL, two years in and still Abbott hasn’t won a single vote on anything other than minor procedural matters. He hasn’t been able to vote down a single bill. But oh, he’s biding his time says Lazlo. Keep on biding, hahaha.
Maybe he was ringing around the backbench shoring up votes for the forthcoming spill due to concerns over the polls.
Fat* lot you’d know. Maybe he was in the business of actually focusing on issues important to this country instead of wailing pathetically in front of a star-struck media about his past:
The Opposition Leader, in opening the Brisbane Boat Show, will today detail a Coalition bid to stop a plan for a network of marine reserves around Australia.
He said commercial and recreational fishermen were not “environmental vandals”.
“They want to be able to catch fish tomorrow as well as today, in the next decade as well as this one,” Mr Abbott said. “That’s why they’re normally the strongest conservationists of fish stocks.”
We can only pray that this report is true, and that the Democrats devote all three days in Charlotte to discussions of abortion rights, rape and contraception. If there is one thing we can say with certainty this year, it is that the overwhelming majority of voters don’t want to hear about the social issues. They want to know how we are going to climb out of the four-year economic funk that has been the Obama administration. If undecided viewers tune into the Democratic convention and hear all about abortion, and tune into the Republican convention and hear all about the economy, Romney will win in a landslide.
And, by the way, Republicans should help drive this contrast by saying nothing–and I mean, absolutely nothing–about any social issue. They should talk the economy non-stop, with occasional digressions into foreign policy. If they are asked about abortion, they should chide the reporter for asking about a topic that is of little interest to voters and that, by the way, the president, vice president, senators and congressmen have no ability to do anything about, and give an answer about the economy. If the Democrats want to define themselves to voters as the party of abortion and gay marriage, please, God, let them do so!
If he did nothing, you’d be on your high horse complaining he did nothing. When he does something, you complain about that too. Face it, you’re a tiny minded partisan hack. You complain he has no polices and yet when he talks about them you complain what’s the point.
PLANS to lock-up the Coral Sea as the world’s biggest marine park face a fresh attack with Tony Abbott to push a Bill through Parliament to stall controversial new marine park protected areas.
I Fish and I Vote. So do a few million other Australians. Well played Tone.
Ah, I see monty has finally received labor’s talking points for the day.
What was he going to do, celebrate the fact that the PM acknowledged her job prior to joining politics was setting up slush funds in names which obscured their purpose to state government regulators?
Crow about the fact the PM force the Australian to acknowledge she set up Slush Funds, not Trush Funds?
Acknowledge the practices of IR lawyers facilitate corruption by union officials?
Much has been made of the fact that failing to open a file left the S&G partners open to litigation and kept them in dangerous ignorance. This is seen as merely unprofessional at best and unethical at worst. No-one seems to have emphasised that failure to open a file guaranteed that secrecy would surround the activities of the Reform Association – a secrecy that was necessary for Wilson et al to use the funds for whatever purposes they wanted. Taken together with the wilful misinformation about the true purpose of the Association and the smell gets even stronger. The rotting body may not yet have been disinterred but most people following this saga are surely holding their noses.
If he did nothing, you’d be on your high horse complaining he did nothing. When he does something, you complain about that too.
He has done nothing. He has no new policies. Lately he hasn’t even tried to hide the fact that he wants to run exactly the same set of policies that Howard ran – in fact that is his self-confessed sole policy platform. There has been exactly zero policy renewal. Arthur Sinodinos has been warehoused, evidently.
If he had some idea, any idea, of how to fix the problems in Australian society and its economy, he could be given some respect. He has nothing. The public is slowly waking up to that fact.
Until such time that so much of the truth is revealed about the lying slapper that even the likes of Wilkie and Oakshott can no longer publicly support her…
He s fibbing as he doesn’t want to be directly involved monster. That’s my take.
not all fibbing and lying is the same monster as you know.
LOL, please tell me the difference between fibbing and lying, JC, since you seem to be an expert, possibly even a professional in the skill. Where I come from, you tell the truth or you don’t.
“He doesn’t want to get involved when the ALP is doing so well by themselves.”
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte.
You apparently don’t mind being known as her bumboy, Monte. Not especially clever when every state and federal government will be conservative in 18 months’ time.
Is this just another example of what Abbott said about not being able to trust things that come out of his mouth, just things that are written down? He has a problem with lying, does Abbott. Bit of a dilemma for voters, that one. Do they want a man for PM who freely admits to being completely untrustworthy with his public pronouncements?
Abbott has a lot on his plate, apparently, so he doesn’t even have time to read the transcript of the Gillard presser.
An hilarious line of defence given that we’re talking about a prime minister who has capitulated to The Australian and admitted she ‘accidentally’ set up an illegal slush fund for a criminal, for which she was subsequently sacked by her bosses who considered her incompetent, sloppy and dodgier than Russ Hinze.
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I’m not quite sure about that, Kae, re Gillard’s track record with married men. One such affair might be put down to human frailty. But we’re talking about a pattern. This goes to character.
There seems to be a deep-seated insecurity in Gillard. She chooses broken married men and oddballs or – most recently – a beta male hairdresser. She seems to be frightened of – and hateful towards – masculine men. Her father was a nurse, I think. Perhaps the ambitious girl longed for a bigger, grander papa but, at the same time, she is drawn to the safe male of a feminised world, to what she knows.
It was very psychologically interesting watching her near crack-up in the House yesterday when somebody asked about South Australia and the BHP Billiton bail-out (which she of course got wrong – predicting the Olympic project was sweet just a few weeks ago). Her voice started to break and she went red in the face as she unleashed on Tony Abbott (?) because she grew up in South Australia and knew well its idiosyncracies and needs. The fixed stare of pathological hatred she directed to Abbott – who is educationally, intellectually, culturally and parentally superior – really seemed to evidence the war within her between the nurse/hairdresser and the footballers, military men and rough-house union mobsters she flirts with in her more sexually and emotionally submissive phases.
She hates Abbott and yet she also wants desperately to be rooted by him.
If he had some idea, any idea, of how to fix the problems in Australian society and its economy, he could be given some respect. He has nothing. The public is slowly waking up to that fact.
12 points ahead.
12 points ahead for two years.
“The public is waking up”.
Next monday the polls will come out: Still 12 points ahead.
And you’ll still be shilling for the ALP like an empty shell of a man.
Shouldn’t he have been watching it live on Parliament House CCTV? What was he doing instead?
Perhaps mUnty, like everyone else, he wasn’t aware that the press conference with Chris Bowen would be about the ‘mysogynist smear campaign’??? It seemed to be a deliberate tactic by Gillard to obscure the fact she was going to ‘address’ *cough cough* the issues then so that she could minimise genuine scrutiny. You really think this has gone away? This is the perfect way for Abbott to announce his royal commission into union governance with a broad ranging terms of reference on day one of a Coalition government. You might think she’s won the battle (debatable), but she is setting herself up to lose the war.
LOL, please tell me the difference between fibbing and lying, JC,
Okay, you’re fucking stupid.
Difference:
If Abbott is telling a fib about having read the transcript he would not be up on fraud charges like if the Lying Slapper had told the truth about her real involvement in the Wilson saga.
You really come across as seriously fucking stupid at times, Monst.
since you seem to be an expert, possibly even a professional in the skill.
Go eat a dozen, monster you offensive fat turd. And go take off 40 kilos.
Where I come from, you tell the truth or you don’t.
Yea lol.. where you come from. Like you and “Your lot” have never ever told a fib or a lie in your lives, right Monster? You fat lying deadshit.
“He doesn’t want to get involved when the ALP is doing so well by themselves.”
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake – Napoleon Bonaparte.
This matter won’t go away as the people feeding it are people with access to the records. The fact is though Gillard flailed at Abbot, the facts are she is being brought down by people from within Labor.
M0nty is desperate for Abbott to get involved as tragics like him know that is the only way his misery will end.
Once again Abbott shows he is a smart operator as it is clear he is following the advice of Napoleon.
The PM’s press conference sounded all very Sir Norman “a part of my person accidentally found it’s was inside his person. And that, as far as I am concerned is the end of the matter” Fry.
Ms Gillard yesterday admitted regrets but forcefully denied any wrongdoing in her first detailed account of her legal work for former Australian Workers Union boss Bruce Wilson, who allegedly used a legal entity she created to siphon and misuse members’ money.
According to the left, it’s a win, masterful “Tour de Force” that Gillard now has these sorts of words associated with her: “slush fund”, “siphon”, “misuse”, “members money” in every news report.
Here is the results of him ingesting what seems to been a large quantity of magic mushrooms and then attempting to compose a piece for the ALPBC’s the dumb.
Incoherent, delusional gibberish.
Remember, your taxes are bankrolling this insanity.
Did Abbott tell the truth in your opinion, JC? No? Then he lied.
Yes, he possibly did lie, Monster. However his lie didn’t injure anyone and wasn’t instrumental in having firms and union money stolen. I pointed out there are degrees in lying and telling fibs.
You’re peddling the lie that you’ve never told an untruth before…. along with the rest of “your lot”.
m0nty, if Abbott came into government on a hard and fast promise that “There Will Be No WorkChoices Under The Government I Lead”, and then almost as soon as he got elected he brought back WorkChoices in its full glory, that would be “lying” … and it still wouldn’t be anything you could complain about, because you’ve excused it in your own girl.
I’ll trust you to read it for me, Rabz. By the way, on a related subject, have you heard that the part of the government media listed on the ASX has lost 12% of its value today. Hahahahahaha!!!
Why should Abbott be fully briefed on this monty?
Only days ago you said it was a non-story, and earlier today you said there was nothing in it. Yet you demand a response from Abbott?
To a non-story about nothing?
And that goes to the heart of the coverage in The Australian. Of course the newspaper did well to gain fresh information. But the newspaper grossly exaggerated the value of that information and the worth of the story.
Nobody is suggesting the newspaper should not have pursued the issue. It’s a question of prominence.
According to The Age, The Australian has published more than 40 articles and opinion pieces about the allegations since 1995, three quarters of them in the last month.
Some of that coverage included front page banner headlines and full page transcripts. This was not the Loans Affair or Tampa. This was a story about the Prime Minister showing a lack of judgment 17 years ago. As the Australian and others repeatedly said, nobody was accusing Julia Gillard of wrongdoing, nobody apart from those Gillard has dismissed as misogynists and nut jobs.
Remember, your taxes are bankrolling this insanity.
Once the media has been properly Finklesteined, that is what will pass as acceptable comment on the glorious eternal progressive alliance who will govern.
It reads like a release from official Chinese news agency.
How many other lies has he told? How can we trust anything he says?
Given his history of lying, would it be a legitimate line of media inquiry to go back to those sexual assault claims by Helen Wilson in 1978? Would you howl down a journo who secured an interview with Ms Wilson?
By the way, on a related subject, have you heard that the part of the government media listed on the ASX has lost 12% of its value today. Hahahahahaha!!!
The worst piece of smearing, historic revision I’ve seen in a long time.
Barry Cassidy, former ALP PM advisor writes:
Just finally, I want to clear up a misconception in parts of the media that Insiders – and The Australian – stopped using Glenn Milne as a commentator because he pursued the Julia Gillard-Slater & Gordon-Bruce Wilson story.
The Australian can speak for itself, but Insiders stopped using Milne after he was acknowledged by The Australian (who publicly apologised) as having written a column containing inaccurate or inappropriate material.
ABC News Management determined that this posed an unacceptable editorial risk for a live television program based on guests freely providing analysis and comment on political matters. So it related to issues around the reliability of Milne’s work and not its subject matter.
What a scumbag.
The ABC and The Australian booted Milne because the ALP told them to.
The Aus did it because they were threatened, the ABC did it because they are the ALP’s media arm.
THE US Anti-Doping Agency will ban Lance Armstrong from cycling for life and strip him of his seven Tour de France titles for doping.
Armstrong today dropped any further challenges to USADA’s allegations that he took performance-enhancing drugs to win cycling’s premier event from 1999-2005.
Armstrong says USADA doesn’t have the authority to vacate his Tour titles, but USADA chief executive Travis Tygart said the anti-drug agency had the power to make that decision.
Tygart called the Armstrong case a “heartbreaking” example of a win-at-all costs approach to sports.
Armstrong, who retired last year, declined to enter arbitration – his last option – because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years. He has consistently pointed to the hundreds of drug tests that he has passed as proof of his innocence
“There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, ‘enough is enough’. For me, that time is now,” Armstrong said in a statement.
He called the USADA investigation an “unconstitutional witch hunt”.
Given his history of lying, would it be a legitimate line of media inquiry to go back to those sexual assault claims by Helen Wilson in 1978? Would you howl down a journo who secured an interview with Ms Wilson?
They’ve already done the M0nty. The case was tried in court.
Great idea, we’ll all be happy if this matter with Gillard was tried in court
Interesting thesis there CL. (One wonders idly – did she let him know of her interest in those past times when they got well? — no, of course not.)
In response to Kae: Gillard Labor gets strong support from ‘third parties’ who can go in hard and pretty much unfairly as they like on Abbott and the Coalition. Think of the Greens, Windsor and Oakshott; of GETUP; of persons who purport to speak for women, or those claiming to be refugees, or those who identify as ‘indigenous’; of many in the ABC and Fairfax etc etc. Gillard can leave the dirty work for them.
The Coalition doesn’t get this level and range of support, and needs it badly. A donor at arms length from the Coalition needs to slip some serious money to persons like Babette so that she and her ilk can get stuck into Gillard. (And it is Gillard who has made public her sexual relationship with Wilson and used its history to seek sympathy. It is reasonable to question whether she was deceived.)
And one hopes too that the Murdoch press will go hard.
but Insiders stopped using Milne after he was acknowledged by The Australian (who publicly apologised) as having written a column containing inaccurate or inappropriate material.
Flippin heck – they have David Marr on all the time. Has he ever printed everything that was accurate?
A journalist that has never printed something wrong is like a race driver who has never crashed – a talentless wimp who is not prepared to excel at their craft.
It’s extraordinary, that after what even Barry Cassidy calls “one of the wildest rides in politics” that m0nty and SfB, who both just last Friday were claiming that nobody, ever, would even run the story…are now here crowing.
How utterly bizarre both of you clowns are.
We were right, you were wrong.
Just say it. “Sorry cat, we were totally and utterly wrong, it was a big story and it culminated in one of the strangest press conference ambushes ever, apologies”.
They’ve already done the M0nty. The case was tried in court.
Oh, so it was dealt with years ago and thus not worthy of current investigation because no new evidence implicating him of a crime has been uncovered. Gotcha, it’s a double standard.
How about a journo who interviews the mother of the illegitimate child fathered when Abbott was a student, which he thought at the time was his but was not his? How about interviewing the kid Daniel O’Connor, detailing his life as a foster child, a situation Abbott put him in by not marrying the mother? Where is the line you lot want to draw in your quest to shift our polity over to the excesses of the American system?
So ol’ Leatherface Cassidy is suggesting that Milne’s firing was brought on by the actions of the OZ and the ABC or rather the former Liars Party staffer was simply following the OZ direction. How novel.
Interesting that’s ABC’s position. At least that’s how ol’ leatherface is trying to spin it.
I distinctly recall the public servant filtering questions to the Greens having been fired by the Government for filtering questions to the Greens and Tony Jones had the roll mop on Q&A a few week’s after on the panel.
Cassidy is a lying dishonest douchebag. He’s out of his depth. He can’t spin anything anymore.
You are bringing up charges which were dismissed, to compare them charges which the PM won’t answer.
At least with Abbott there was enough evidence to lay a charge. No one has ever been charged over the Wilson/Blewitt affair, and no one ever will be. Gillard answered every question put to her yesterday. The story is dead.
I distinctly recall the public servant filtering questions to the Greens having been fired by the Government and Tony Jones had the roll mop on the Q&A panel a few week’s after.
Just finally, I want to clear up a misconception in parts of the media that Insiders – and The Australian – stopped using Glenn Milne as a commentator because he pursued the Julia Gillard-Slater & Gordon-Bruce Wilson story.
LOL. Barrie’s slush fund moment.
He then goes on to say, ‘no yeah – we DID stop using Glenn Milne as a commentator because he pursued the Julia Gillard-Slater & Gordon-Bruce Wilson story.’
The Gillardian spirit of the age.
Do something dirty and inexcusable, aggressively “stare down” critics – while actually admitting the charges – and then swagger off stage.
Ol’ leatherface’s attack on milne (whom I hate with a passion, BTW) struck me as a very low act.
Cowardly and dishonest.
Dogue, you crazy lunch digit, I’ve been enjoying that BLR video since Sunday evening. The syncing on my iPad is flawless. The Ron Paul clip is hilarious as well.
Nobody is suggesting the newspaper should not have pursued the issue. It’s a question of prominence.
According to The Age, The Australian has published more than 40 articles and opinion pieces about the allegations since 1995, three quarters of them in the last month.
I wonder what a similar analysis of Insiders and of The Age regarding AbbottAbbottAbbott! campaigns would reveal…
Hi rafiki
I was addressing the sexual thing to candy’s comment.
Just because some members of the ALP are morally/sexually placed in the gutter doesn’t mean that it needs to be pointed out.
Gillard is an embarrassment.
Given his history of lying, would it be a legitimate line of media inquiry to go back to those sexual assault claims by Helen Wilson in 1978? Would you howl down a journo who secured an interview with Ms Wilson?
If you go on a national TV show to talk about a document,…
National TV, eh? Such gravitas in that phrase, eh monty?
And if Abbott had said something, and this matter went to trial, you’d be first in line saying how Abbott’s public statements had made it less likely that Gillard would get a fair trial, or some such.
It’s just like when everyone piled on Abbott about not being forthcoming about his travel plans to Afghanistan, and everyone was calling him a liar.
Then we saw how Gillard had set him up to be in an awkward position. Now monty the Gillard fanboy attempts to paint a similar picture. You just don’t recognise decency when you see it.
It was very psychologically interesting watching her near crack-up in the House yesterday
I thought so too, CL.
It’s worth bearing in mind that she is also in the firm menopausal years and that in itself could be causing her flushes. (For her own sake, I genuinely hope she hasn’t gone down the sisterhood line of scotching HRT; probably not though as it is clear she is not averse to a little technological facial cosmetic enhancement; from both a medical and social perspective, I applaud both ‘fixes’ btw).
Research shows the peri-menopause to be a time when a woman’s emotions about her life choices may come to the fore. Seemed to be the case in the ‘reflective’ piece she ended with about being ’50′. She may be personally confronting a few of her own demons in the middle of this political crisis.
Those demons are necessarily there over this early career disaster and her naivity or worse. Do we want such a confused (lying?) and conflicted woman to be our Prime Minister is the question that is then raised. In an oblique sense, Babette’s piece was also an ironic comment along these lines.
A certain Y&N has been trying to stake the heart of this story for 17 years. One surprise press conference later, and the stake is supposedly found the mark? 17 year old zombie stories that stalk the land take a bit more of beating than that little counter jab.
I’ll agree it was just the thing to get the love media back on board, but the zombie story won’t die until it has finally vomited all the sordid details onto the floor.
People are forgetting this is a covered up union scandal, where the AWU brushed it under the carpet and made no attempt to bring the wrongdoers to justice. The money was never recovered, nobody ever went to jail.
The Gillard part is currently the most interesting because of her position, but it’s not the meat of the story.
What has happened is that a line in the sand was drawn, statements were made. It is essentially a call for the accusers to put up or shut up. A poker bluff to see the hand, thinking her hopeless hand outplays what the other guys at the table have.
If we see no aces laid on the table in the next two weeks, then I’ll grant the story will have cooled somewhat, but there is no way I would be stupid enough to call it won when there are people still sitting around the table and you haven’t seen all the picture cards.
Whether or not Assange is guilty of sexual violence, we do not believe that is why he is being pursued….
…do those supporting his extradition to Sweden care if he is then extradited to the US and tortured for telling the public what we need to know about those who govern us?
Must be the ‘Justice for Bubba Clinton’ Chapter of W.A.R. ?
Which was dismissed – i.e you shouldn’t have brought it to court.
Helen Wilson claimed Abbott touched her between her legs on the buttock. Abbott claimed he touched her back above the belt on her jeans. Maybe a phalanx of investigative journalists should question some of the 200 people who were there that day to test the veracity of the counter claims, and splash the results over the front page for days on end. That’s the level of media discourse that you lot are baying for.
Big stories always remind me of markets in lots of ways. They are so unpredictable in terms of if and when they take off. They also wax and wane like markets do.
You could very well see this die down for a few weeks, then a journo grabs a few more hints or presents a new angle and it’s off to the races again.
Helen Wilson claimed Abbott touched her between her legs on the buttock. Abbott claimed he touched her back above the belt on her jeans. Maybe a phalanx of investigative journalists should question some of the 200 people who were there that day to test the veracity of the counter claims, and splash the results over the front page for days on end. That’s the level of media discourse that you lot are baying for.
Abbot went to court and it was dismissed.
Gillard refuses to answer simple, honest questions.
Maybe a phalanx of investigative journalists should question some of the 200 people who were there that day to test the veracity of the counter claims, and splash the results over the front page for days on end. That’s the level of media discourse that you lot are baying for.
Personally I’m happy for this to happen.
Abbott told the truth and produced witnesses that backed his story up.
Whichever paper decided to waste space on it would see their circulation fall, because, after reading about it on the first day, nobody would care.
Why do you think the Australian keeps running this? Maybe they have found it sells papers and people are interested?
I know it’s hard for a state-loving sycophant to work out that papers exist to sell advertising space by providing readers with things they are interested in, but that’s what they do. Obviously a cursory examination of Fairfax should show what happens when a paper ignores what people want to read.
Funny how we’ve gone from ‘she’s innocent’ to ‘non-story’ to ‘shut up shut up shut up’ to ‘AbbottAbbottAbbott’.
I wonder what a similar analysis of Insiders and of The Age regarding AbbottAbbottAbbott! campaigns would reveal…
I have a comment in moderation linking to five articles detailing the “sexual assault” claim made against him 35 years ago.
But yes, let’s go back and take a trip down memory lane, pre last election.
Here are some of the important, relevant and pressing things we were told about Tony Abbott by the people now claiming that 17 years ago is simply ancient history:
t’s true the former trainee Catholic priest has much baggage that could hamper his campaign to become prime minister. He was, for example, charged with sexual assault in 1978 after a political opponent, Helen Wilson, accused him of groping her as she addressed a student crowd. The case was later dismissed.
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He was arrested again, but not convicted, a year later for bending a street sign in a ”show of strength” at the tail end of a drunken night out with mates.
Reporting on bending a street sign in 1979? Relevant to Tony’s character.
Reporting on the sitting PM being involved in setting up a half million dollar racket in 1995? Muckraking.
How about a journo who interviews the mother of the illegitimate child fathered when Abbott was a student, which he thought at the time was his but was not his? How about interviewing the kid Daniel O’Connor, detailing his life as a foster child, a situation Abbott put him in by not marrying the mother? Where is the line you lot want to draw in your quest to shift our polity over to the excesses of the American system?
What are you saying? These matters have been reported. Last election Shut Up! tried to raise them, but there was no community interest as it is not the Australian way.
Australians in general are as mature about Gillard’s sexual history as they are with Abbott’s.
You will notice with Gillard people are interested in her role facilitating corruption & possible benefits she gained and not so fussed she has broken up 2 marriages.
The fact you keep acting to prevent scrutinty on both the institutionalised corruption the Thomson & Wilson/Gillard matter, yet get excited about the fact Jackson may be also guilty of corruption is disappointing yet instructive.
All you do M0nty is make clear how your morality is built on relativism and prejudices.
m0nty – given the British press outrage at the time (The Lizard of Oz headlines) better make sure we look again at where Keating placed his hand on our gracious Queen Elizabeth. Can’t be too careful when a man puts out a protective or steadying or whatever sort of hand for half a second on a woman’s back.
From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation. As respected organizations such as UCI and USA Cycling have made clear, USADA lacks jurisdiction even to bring these charges. The international bodies governing cycling have ordered USADA to stop, have given notice that no one should participate in USADA’s improper proceedings, and have made it clear the pronouncements by USADA that it has banned people for life or stripped them of their accomplishments are made without authority. And as many others, including USADA’s own arbitrators, have found, there is nothing even remotely fair about its process. USADA has broken the law, turned its back on its own rules, and stiff-armed those who have tried to persuade USADA to honor its obligations. At every turn, USADA has played the role of a bully, threatening everyone in its way and challenging the good faith of anyone who questions its motives or its methods, all at U.S. taxpayers’ expense. For the last two months, USADA has endlessly repeated the mantra that there should be a single set of rules, applicable to all, but they have arrogantly refused to practice what they preach. On top of all that, USADA has allegedly made deals with other riders that circumvent their own rules as long as they said I cheated. Many of those riders continue to race today.
Do people recall I said about 3 years ago how Iphone type technology along with apps would change the world.
People also recall that when I made an optimistic comment about the forward technology curve is sloping upwards far more steeply.
People will also recall how stepford, the Brisbane househusband, mocks me when i suggest people generally are very conservative about the technology momentum and don’t understand how quickly it has moved in the past and how much steeper the curve is now.
Well here’s an example.
I had a tech dude upgrade my entertainment tech as it’s about 5 years old.
1. Had a DVD recorder. It’s now redundant with an MP3 player. The DVD recorder cost around 5k when it was installed and it’s replaced with an MP3 driver etc. for a couple of hundi.
2. Installed a Foxtel IQ and Apple TV which means i can watch movies all through the house at the touch of the button. No more fucking around at Blockbuster. I can also access US Apple ITunes through my kids US account if the movie is blocked here.
3. Remotes gonsky. Now use an Iphone and Ipad app from Crestron.
4. Can use the Iphone to open by gate and garage doors. Raise and lower blinds.
5. Can get a CCTV image inside and outside the house from wherever I am on the Ipad or Iphone.
6. new Samsung TVs for a fraction of what the old ones cost.
7. Overhead projector… replaced the old one which cost just under 30k 5 or 6 years ago (came with the house) with a great HD one that cost 6K wholesale. The old one can be thrown away.
Helen Wilson claimed Abbott touched her between her legs on the buttock. Abbott claimed he touched her back above the belt on her jeans. Maybe a phalanx of investigative journalists should question some of the 200 people who were there that day to test the veracity of the counter claims, and splash the results over the front page for days on end. That’s the level of media discourse that you lot are baying for.
Helen Wilson claimed Abbott touched her between her legs on the buttock. Abbott claimed he touched her back above the belt on her jeans.
7 witnesses disagreed in court with Wilson’s statement so the case was dismissed. If the case was re-litigated Helen Wilson is the one who would come off badly through the process.
M0nty I thought the Left has learned not to make sleazy accusations about Abbott.
After Mark Riley snipped the tape of Abbott in Afghanistan the public outcry was huge.
It was a similar story when the PM’s office set off the Australia Day riot and her office tried with the media to blame it on Abbott.
All that happens is they fire up conservatives and turn off people in the middle ground.
The people in the middle ground in Australia HATE corruption and union sleaze. This Gillard issue, like the Thompson rorting, will not die.
Where was m0nty pre pre last election defending the character assassination of Tony Abbott as having a “woman problem” based on things he’d said 30 years ago?
Should I go do some google searching to grab some monty quotes from 2010? Just to show what a duplicitious, hypocritical shill he is?
The Gillard revelations of the past few days have also resolved a minor mystery: Why did this wretched creature decide to barrack for the poor ol’ Western Bulldogs? She’s from Adelaide,so she should be a Crows or Port supporter — allowing that her true allegiance does not reside with Cardiff or one of those other of her homeland’s clubs for bloke-kissing, round-ball sooks in baggy shorts.
Answer: Because former boss Peter Gordon is a Bulldogs barracker and ex-boss Murphy as well. Another naked and calculating bit of careerist positioning.
At Footscray’s annual GM someone needs to move a motion that she be stripped of the #1 ticket. We have yet to evict her from The Lodge, but there is no reason she should be tolerated at Whitten Oval.
JC seems to think that climate change will be solved by vast and rapid improvements in home entertainment technology.
Stepford, emissions, not climate change, will be solved through technology.
Dickhead, you realize that through fracking technology US emissions will halve by 2050 and that’s not even taking into account possible advances in nuclear energy production. The cost of gas fired energy has now fallen through the coal price in the US.
7 witnesses disagreed in court with Wilson’s statement so the case was dismissed. If the case was re-litigated Helen Wilson is the one who would come off badly through the process.
We’re witnessing a classic leftist equivalence fabrication exercise.
Tony Abbott 34 years ago in 1978, in University, was accused by a political enemy of touching her at a rally. He had his day in court and it was thrown out immediately.
The sitting PM in 1995, immediately before entering politics at the age of 35, as a career professional and partner in a law firm set up a half million dollar racket for her long term boyfriend and has never answered for it.
The differences to a normal person:
35 years vs 17 years
A uni student vs a 35 year old lawyer.
A court vindication vs…being fired and then refusing to answer for it.
One, while in governemnt frankly admitted to the SMH what had happened when they came knocking, one while in government tried to silence and muzzle the free press when the Australian came knocking.
But to the leftist:
“No difference”.
To the leftist Michelle Grattan and SMH didn’t fully cover the Abbott “Scandal” in 2004, then again pre last election, then again now that Pilbersek has brought it up again.
Sorry to hear the sad news about your parents Bunyip. Let’s hope your entries of late Bunyip indicates you’ll be back soon.
With the PM taking the time yesterday to acknowledge the fact bloggers have taken over the role of keeping the government honest it is clear your work is deeply valued in Canberra
Note that it doesn’t matter to Bowen that the Afghans in iran and Indonesia are no longer fleeing danger, but wanting a better home. Note that the war in Sri Lanka ended three years ago, and the UNHCR is now working not to resettle Sri Lanka refugees abroad, but to bring them home.
God this lot in government are quite stupid. They never ever think things through. Perhaps their pre-frontal cortices have not fully developed. Just trying to figure out the reason for their stupid stupid actions.
Abbott told the truth and produced witnesses that backed his story up.
These matters have been reported.
M0nty you deadshit they already have.
7 witnesses disagreed in court with Wilson’s statement so the case was dismissed. If the case was re-litigated Helen Wilson is the one who would come off badly through the process.
Tony Abbott 34 years ago in 1978, in University, was accused by a political enemy of touching her at a rally. He had his day in court and it was thrown out immediately.
Seven witnesses out of 200, that’s not a lot. How about investigative reporters try to interview the other 193, many of whom had personal experience of Abbott being a typical young Liberal dickhead pulling all sorts of crazy stunts, and splash that all over the front pages for a week running? Go back and interview the other student politicians of the time and rake up all the stories of stupid things he did as a 20-year-old, so that we’d be regaled of stories of him and his mates’ drunken escapades just like details of Gillard’s home reno was this week? Is that what you want?
Maybe you want recreations of the courtroom that day in 1978, with Abbott being represented by a QC, and Helen Wilson and her Denuto-level counsel getting smashed by all the high-powered legal weapons that money could buy? How would that look?
Or how about the Hedley Thomases of this world go and interview all his ex-girlfriends to figure out how he made such a dumb decision as to have unprotected sex with Daniel O’Connor’s mother, and then think he’s the father, and decide with her to put the kid up for adoption? Surely that calls into question Abbott’s judgement?
Or how about this: if there is no new evidence implicating a political leader in an actual crime in an old scandal – which there most definitely was not in this case, much as Mr Dotto might whine that there is – then it is not deemed to be worthy of major treatment by serious journalists in the modern day. Maybe we can get back to talking about policy. Please?
Abbott’s case went to court. That was the available evidence and that was the judge or magistrate used to adjudicate the case.
The Lying Slapper’s case has yet to reach court.
Talk to us when it does and the judge has rendered a decision. Otherwise fuck off and stop ruining the thread with you inane drivel. Anyways it’s doughnut time.
Abbott’s case went to court. That was the available evidence and that was the judge or magistrate used to adjudicate the case.
The Lying Slapper’s case has yet to reach court.
It did not reach court, due to a lack of evidence. It will never reach court, due to a lack of evidence.
Given your admission of Abbott’s lies and his propensity to strip down to his budgie smugglers on a sunny day, does that make him the Lying Slip-Slop-Slapper?
mUnty, you are just annoyed that there is nothing remotely in Abbott’s past that calls his character or judgement into question like events in the PM’s past. We’ve all done stupid things on the turps. Are you seriously suggesting that the Wilson affair is just like that? Have a read of what you’ve posted and hopefully you’ll realise just how stupid and feeble minded you sound. I’m being serious here.
Put the crack pipe away. It’s obvious you are at the end of a binge and you haven’t slept for days. You are not fit to discuss this weekend’s footy fixture let alone policy or current affairs…
Prof, my knowledge of lefty lesbian power-seekers (anthropological observations only) might suggest that La Gillardine knows virtually nothing about football of any code (like me, really, to Da Ape’s great sadness, and one reason why Wodger The Temporary Lodger was called in to stay for quite a while from the UK). They generally have no interest at all in such things, seeing them as shocking hairy male displays (my excuse is that I’ve always been a dancer and gone for the ballet, which the lefty lezzies despise even more).
My legal girlfriends though are mad for it, because its mandatory for clients and because they all went to private rah rah schools where girls knew what they had to do. They get all fired up. Julia has just been going with the flow, but without the fire in the belly I’ll bet. Tell the Bulldogs to give her a test. I don’t even pass the one where you know which team goes for which goalpost, but it has to be a bit harder than that for her.
ps. glad you are on the case and heading up again.
Maybe we can get back to talking about policy. Please?
Intresting M0nty. I have never “explored” the Gillard home-wrecking meme as it is not pertinent to current policy, but seeing Grattan and the Labor Stenographers think going personnel is fair game, maybe it is time to go there.
That said, I’ll ignore your distraction and get back to the issue you desperately want to avoid.
The key issue that hits Gillard is her actions whereby she acknowledged yesterday she set up an entity – a “slush fund” as Gillard prefers it to be called – for a union that enabled money paid by the WA government to be funnelled away for corrupt purposes.
Why is that relevant? Because the unions continue to conduct such behaviour (see the cases involving the HSU and the ETU).
I look forward to the royal commission into institutionalised corruption in the trade union movement and the Labor Party…
…and if Plibersek wants to fight dirty, I’m sure she’ll be happy if more people find out her husband used to indulge in commerce with Columbian Marching Powder.
Just trying to figure out the reason for their stupid stupid actions.
It’s simple logic, Gab. The left stands for an extreme agenda and therefore upheaval and political instability. Therefore they must lie at all times about what they’re trying to achieve in order to get elected. To tell the truth would mean instant unelectability. The first lie necessary to be elected was that Rudd was a conservative. Gillard, with all the communist instincts of a Welsh miner, escalated the lying with the air tax. Now we find out she has been lying and cheating all her life. It’s just what they do. So their syncophants come here to defend the indefensible through lies, subterfuge and all the dishonest trickery they can muster. The left strategy: lie your way into office and lie your head off when you get found out. Simple.
The term slush fund was originally a nautical term: the slush was the fat or grease that was obtained by boiling salted meat. The sale of the fat could then be used to provide the crew with special luxuries. The money obtained from this sale was placed into the slush fund.
Although perhaps Gillard hates Abbott becuase he knocked her back.
It would grossly unfair of me to say this so I shan’t, but the main disappointment Jools had after the 2010 election was that she’d already had congress with all the people who won their seats.
Yes, Gab. Peter Reith looked completely honest and above board regarding “children overboard”. As did Tony Abbott when he denied involvement with the Hanson case.
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the crux of the Gillard matter is this (in my opinion)
cutting and pasting from Hedley Thomas
The “slush fund” that Gillard had created three years earlier was a legal entity, an incorporated body, for the purpose of raising and holding funds for the re-election of union officials.
Its stated purpose was something else
it was called the AWU Workplace Reform Association, a title completely at odds with its actual purpose. The written objects, or rules, for the association do not disclose the true purpose is to fund elections for union officials.
On the contrary, the rules stress purposes including the promotion of safer workplaces and skills training. In the formal application for the association, Gillard advised that it was formed for the purpose of “development of changes to work to achieve safe workplaces”.
In this way, its purported purpose had nothing to do with its actual purpose – as a “slush fund” for the re-election of Gillard’s then boyfriend. This is Gillard’s Achilles heel.
Yesterday, Gillard said she had not signed the document to set up the association and had only provided legal advice. Further, she said if the fund supported “trade union officials who would stand on a platform about reform and improvements in workplaces”, then it had fulfilled its stated role. But this later explanation, at her hour-long media conference, remains difficult to reconcile with the facts.
The question that might have elicited the devil in this detail was not asked by the press gallery yesterday, but it revolves around a simple point. The reality is that if any of the documents lodged with the West Australian government agency had disclosed that the association’s true purpose was as a “slush fund” to help in the election of union officials, it would not have been registered.
In her answers yesterday, the Prime Minister deftly moved the goalposts. It was a legalistic answer, a duck-and-weave that takes a minute or two to see as such.
Gillard said: “My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way, to increasing occupational health and safety, to improving the conditions of the members of the union. That was my understanding of the purpose of the association, and so I provided legal advice for the association.”
There it is. If Gillard had given the WA government agency the same answer as she gave yesterday, the bureaucrats in Perth would likely have rejected the application outright. They would have seen it for what it was: a “slush fund” for the purpose of raising funds for the election of union officials.
Appallingly bad practice for a solicitor not to do a conflict check with respect to a major client of her firm, appallingly dishonest and misleading to the WA beauracy who oversaw such matters to proceed with the incorporation of an association with a purpose so much at variance with its stated purpose
Is this the conduct that clients expect from lawyers, do whatever it takes and disregard your personal integrity
Yes, Gab. Peter Reith looked completely honest and above board regarding “children overboard”. As did Tony Abbott when he denied involvement with the Hanson case.
“My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way, to increasing occupational health and safety, to improving the conditions of the members of the union. That was my understanding of the purpose of the association, and so I provided legal advice for the association.”
Presumably this means they expected other officials to be running for office on a commitment to decrease occupational health and safety and to reduce the conditions of members?
“My understanding of the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way, to increasing occupational health and safety, to improving the conditions of the members of the union. That was my understanding of the purpose of the association, and so I provided legal advice for the association.”
Presumably this means they expected other officials to be running for office on a commitment to decrease occupational health and safety and to reduce the conditions of members?
These were my immediate thoughts too, Lazlo. Yet according to the love media this was a masterful performance. mUnty must have taken my advice and gone to bed finally…
Lots of good comments up on Bolt’s thread re The Story, with plenty on ‘bank cheques’ (including my comment too, rah!), and someone called Hugh has managed to get up all of Pickering’s latest questions there too, with a headline just awaiting a Mrs. Malaprop. These questions:
WHAT A CUNNING STUNT?
Well done, Julia. No, seriously, I mean that. Shot me down in flames you did. I really felt like crawling under a rock after that impromptu performance.
That was so brilliantly cunning to pounce on a typo in “The Australian” in order to pull on a Press conference claiming defamation of all things. What was the typo, “trust” instead of “slush”, was it?
It was really good the way you gave absolutely no notice to the Press who were so obviously caught on the hop. No time for Editors to tell correspondents what they wanted asked! Wow, only two questions of any substance and you dodged them so beautifully.
I was impressed the way you praised the Press as being the cream of the country’s journalists. Golly, only two tired old Lefties, Grattan and Bongiorno plus a few snotty nosed cadets were present.
Not one of the Press actually knew what to ask. They don’t know the background to this. Brilliant Jules!
So, as a tired ol’ newspaperman, could I humbly ask you to answer, just specially for me, the following, (I promise I won’t tell anyone):
1. You said yesterday that you paid for your renovations. Why then did you previously say you couldn’t be certain that you did?
2. You said you believed it was “slush fund”. As an industrial Lawyer did you seriously not know a “slush fund” could in no way be an Association?
3. If you believed it was a “slush fund” why did you print on the Application Form that its intended role was to facilitate “worker safety and training”?
4. Is it true that the four people present in the room when you drew up this document were yourself, Ralph Blewitt, Bruce Wilson and Senior Equity Partner, Bernard Murphy?
5. An Association requires, by law, to have at least five members. Who did you nominate?
6. When you drew up a power of attorney for your friend Bruce Wilson to act for Ralph Blewitt, why did you not inform Mr Blewitt of the mortgage, now in his name, subsequent to going to buy the house with Mr Wilson?
7. When conducting the firm’s conveyancing (again pro bono) for the purchase and sale of the Kerr Street house, did you take note of where the money was coming from and going to?
8. Why were the Association, the bank account, the purchase and sale of the house and the mortgage kept secret from the AWU.
9. How could the purchase of a house be consistent with either a “slush fund” or “worker safety and training”?
10. Why did you attempt to deliberately mislead the WA Commissioner for Corporate Affairs when setting up this Association?
11. Why did you not inform your firm’s boss or your firm’s client, the AWU, of any of your actions?
12. Do you agree it is your handwriting on the fraudulent form?
13. When the AWU discovered the fraud, why did that union’s boss, Ian Cambridge, immediately sack Slater & Gordon and call for a Royal Commission?
14. Why were you asked, by your employer, for a taped interview?
15. After you were dismissed why did you not renew your Practising Certificate? Did you beieve you would be unable to practise again?
16. Why is the six months subsequent to your dismissal missing from your CV?
17. Why did your boss, Styant-Browne say, and I quote: “…the company took a very serious view of these and other matters and accepted her resignation”?
18. What did Mr Styant-Browne mean by, “…a serious view of these and other matters?
19. Is Mr Styant-Browne, or Mr Gordon correct?
20 Why was Senior Equity Partner Bernard Murphy asked to make a settlement and leave at the same time as yourself?
21 When your ex-Attorney General Rob McClelland stated in Parliament, “…a third party may have benefitted from…”, was this “third party” he referred to, you?
22 What did you mean by, “I was treated shabbily”, when you were asked to leave the firm?
23 You refuse to make a statement in the House. Is it true you realise it would be illegal to lie when so doing?
24 And finally Ms Gillard, how can you profess to be a champion of the working class when you have clearly been complicit, with your boyfriend, in stealing their money?
Now, I don’t expect you to answer all of these, just a few would be good… with the rest you can perform your normal stunt of evasion.
[P.S. And yes, I will be bankrupt for the next month or so. Lost my fast car, my helicopter and my kid to my ex. Then she bankrupted me, just for fun. Oh well, I’m running out of brood mares now.]
Let me guess, SfB. All of those questions…just muckraking, right? Rantings of a mysogynist nutter? Nothing to see here? Move along?
Fme, you’re so predictable…
People: I am merely pointing out that purity of heart and rolled gold honesty is not on any one side of politics.
Sure, Reith had been playing games: it didn’t make the government not worth re-electing. Ditto with Abbott.
And sure – for any normal person who is not stupidly obsessed with Gillard – her mistakes of not opening a file and being lawyer-ly clever about how to get the association registered have stuff all to do with current policy and ability to run to run the country, too.
Sorry to take up a lot of thread space, but not everyone (as Gab notes) sits on blogs all day (nor do I, actually) and these questions are very good ones deserving of the widest audience. The fact that SoB wants them shoved away is indicative of their worth, I think.
SfB, lets give the benefit of the doubt that she was deceived.
Isn’t her ability to be able to discern reality from fraud a concern to you in her role as PM? After all, she makes such a big deal about approaching everything in a calm and methodical way, holding things up to the light, examining the facts and making rational decisions and paints her opponents as being sloppy and careless.
Yet when she was 35, she couldn’t ascertain that the conduct of her then lover might have been dodgy? She took no steps to protect herself, her client or her employer? This means nothing to you, in terms of qualifications for leadership?
Transcript of the radio conversation between the
British and the Irish, off the coast of Kerry, Oct 98.
IRISH: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South, to avoid a
collision.
BRITISH: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the North, to
avoid a collision.
IRISH: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to
the South to avoid a collision.
BRITISH: This is the Captain of a British navy ship. I say again,
divert YOUR course.
IRISH: Negative. I say again, You will have to divert YOUR course.
BRITISH: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER HMS BRITIANNIA! THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE BRITISH ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS, AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, I SAY AGAIN, THAT IS 15 DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.
SfB, I never said there was. At a minimum, there is an abundance of evidence of carelessness and stupidity. That’s enough to disqualify her as a national leader in my eyes…You obviously have no qualms with electing halfwits who do not care about who they are paid, and have a duty, to represent…
and why would anyone call that press conference brilliant
can anyone tell me that?
Is there some new critique on politicians
they have to be like a stage act?
just accept what they say (well unless they’re Abbott)
I still can’t understand why bolt (and I’m a fan) called her performance ‘brilliant’
and Abbott’s performance on 7.30 abysmal
personally I would have put those performances the other way round!!!!
Far out, JC. Your place sounds like the bridge on the USS Enterprise. You’re just sitting there saying, “make it so.”
It’s how we bought the house, CL. The electronics stuff was over the top. I’m just updating the crap now.
But seriously, the tech and cost curve is absolutely staggering when you consider the new stuff around and the cost compared to 5 or 6 years ago.
As I mentioned that DVD recorder was worth 5K then and it’s essentially been replaced by the MP3 which is superior tech too for a couple of hundi or whatever they cost.
The tech dude was telling me that people are freaking installing cinema quality projectors in their houses, which are the size of a freaking tiny room and cost 100K! He talked one dude into not spending that kind of money and just going with the 6K thing as it’s just as good in a home (distance matters or doesn’t in a home) and can be replaced every couple of years.
hey everyone let’s post
just like val majkus does
capitalisation and punctuation are leftist concepts
it worked for e e cummings who why the hell
not
don’t forget to embolden random words for effect
it’s what all the cool kids
are doing
Sex kills! No seriously. I witnessed clear evidence of this proposition yesterday.
I was waiting for a level crossing to turn green yesterday morning. About 50 or so feet away there were four of those Indian starlings literally having sex on the median strip dividing the road. They were really going at it, pairing off and fluttering their wings in what seemed to be fun (for them).
In some ecstatic fit of passion a pair took their coupling onto the road actually fluttering underneath a car that was ahead of me in the line.
Big mistake. Just as they did that the line began to slowly move, but I only saw one bird come out from under the car and it unhesitatingly joined the other pair cavorting on the medium strip in what now seemed to be a threesome.
Driving slowly along I saw that the other bird hadn’t taken off at all. It was flattened dead in the road by the car wheel.
hey everyone let’s post
just like val majkus does
capitalisation and punctuation are leftist concepts
it worked for e e cummings who why the hell
not
don’t forget to embolden random words for effect
it’s what all the cool kids
are doing
minty
You were too stupid to pass the first semester of university economics.
You are literally dumber than 80% of the people who had the same secondary schooling or better than you.
Learn your place, and learn to like the lack of altitude there.
PS
An old sleazy guy shoving his dick in multiple women doesn’t clear the PM of fraud.
A bush lawyer would know that. You don’t.
Perhaps this is why you are too stupid to run any enterprise without running it into the ground.
Do you have any original thoughts mOnty that don’t involve chocolate sauce and a wetsuit? You’re now plagiarising terms of derision from that vile redheaded usurper.
dot, who excels at sport and is King of Bush Lawyers, link us to a pic of yourself on the net before you start mouthing off about others’ personal appearance.
Or do what you normally do – tell us how fantastic you are in all aspects of life.
Or do what you normally do – tell us how fantastic you are in all aspects of life.
Dot never failed first year uni for a start, Stepford.
Seriously, getting dumped out of first year economics/commerce is not exactly a high point in anyone’s bag of achievements. However you are unlikely to understand that because you went to a rural TAFE.
30 000 votes is a statistical anomaly of welfare addled voters and donkey votes of people who don’t want to vote.
Oakeshitt and Windsor are done for.
She got 60% of Tasmanian votes. Which is about the same as the proportion of Tassies who are reliant on the Commonwealth for largesse as their income.
That 30 000 votes could be wiped out alone by natural attrition (oldies kicking it).
Abbot has been up to 62% 2PP. He is the preferred PM. He has the marginal seats. Do you really think the voters in Eden Monaro or Parramatta are going to find Gillard more appealing?
She will lose executive office, then a shitrain will hit the unions and ALP, and many of these smug, lecherous pricks who have built up financial success through graft and corruption will be smashed to bits.
dot, who excels at sport and is King of Bush Lawyers, link us to a pic of yourself on the net before you start mouthing off about others’ personal appearance.
Or do what you normally do – tell us how fantastic you are in all aspects of life.
No fuckwit.
minty tried his hand at a career as a public radio figure on the net.
He wades into debate with the poorest of intentions.
We try to have a sensible debate, he loses, then he lies. Then he begins invective when he is caught out.
The he cries when he loses the sledging which he does poorly at and then tries to make out I am breaching his non existent anonymity.
If you want to be a talkback host minty, try to do better than failing the first semester of uni.
So says the man who lied about an extra marital affair of Tony Abbot
I said I heard a rumour and specified no more. This remains true. As with 20 year old attacks on Julia Gillard, you think mere assertion makes a compelling case. You’re about 1/4 as smart as you think you are.
No. I believe I said no such thing, because I was not in regular contact with the person who told me the rumour.
JC: you are pretty much the trouble maker who started these intense personal appearance attacks on mOnty, but beneath your stupid bluster, I think most people know you are a better person than you sound. (You let your wife drag you to art house cinema, you love your kids, etc.) And yes – you even sent an apology to mOnty for starting something that got out of hand.
There is rarely an equivalent sense of decency coming out of dot’s nasty attacks on anything, and frankly, when they start getting out of hand again from him (or whoever), the decent thing would be for you to call them out on it, since you know I’ll be paid no attention.
That’s a really cool link, Infidel. Though I wonder if it is just showing that blueys buy more books from bookshops than Amazon, or if reddies buy a larger number of books in general, or something else. I certainly can’t believe that Washington state, among others, is overall reddish.
Good god no. Imagine if you had to apply for a permit and prove competence to those incompetents, put yourself in plain packaging, take their view of the standard dose, only do it outdoors and wear safety boots and helmet just in case.
I asserted I was right, and others (including lawyers) have backed me up.
You made statements about the law in relation to crimes you alleged people have committed, none of which have any skerrick of usable evidence to them, which is why none of them will ever lead to charges. You are the kind of Dunning-Kruger armchair lawyer that real lawyers would laugh at, Mr Dotto.
What are your qualifications anyway, Dennis? Do you have any pieces of paper beyond TAFE woodworking certificates proving that you’re not a gibbering idiot? I don’t see any evidence of a working intellect. Just conspiracy theories and abuse from a man Steve Kates would call a moron.
Contrary to what monty said. Maybe you ought to keep quiet about legal issues, monty.
The Swedish legal system is about to get the shit kicked out of it by everyone for that decision. Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
The Swedish legal system is about to get the shit kicked out of it by everyone for that decision. Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
DavidJ, the small print on my “6,000 posts” post notes that buried within the blog there is one photo of me, in which you can at least see my general outline – sort of.
I have offered before to send a more explicit photo to Gab, but she has resisted the invitation.
DavidJ, the small print on my “6,000 posts” post notes that buried within the blog there is one photo of me, in which you can at least see my general outline
No word of a lie, I thought you were going to write genital outline.
For a non story that has been declared dead, you two morons, the power driving spoon and the cockmaster with the self congratulatory blog entries sure get overheated.
Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
Maybe not.
Breivik is and was sane.
The insanity finding was a ruse to supposedly permanently lock him away as opposed to just 20 years.
But if someone finds him sane subsequently then he should be released.
The problem is that the Norwegians are immoral like us.
By allowing leftists dominate over citizens in banning capital punishment for such evil, we now see statists tie themselves in knots of inane rationalisations and contradictions.
It was really good the way you gave absolutely no notice to the Press who were so obviously caught on the hop. No time for Editors to tell correspondents what they wanted asked! Wow, only two questions of any substance and you dodged them so beautifully.
Precisely what Obama did earlier this week having not had a presser for about 2 months. Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
And, yes, thanks for that Lizzie, Pickering’s most pointed post yet.
When I got it tattooed, he held my cheeks open while I was choking myself from the pain. Then we ended up breaking up because he said he couldn’t see us getting married or starting a family.
I wont link because it may cause Sinclair troubles.
Lizzie, you are obviously much appreciated by some here. My apologies for finding you too “Mk50 in drag” in the way you speak, and too “CL” in cutting and pasting what’s been here before. (Maybe on another thread.)
The Swedish legal system is about to get the shit kicked out of it by everyone for that decision. Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
Even though Brevik has a psychiatric history? That his mother stated he was a “very difficult child”. Even though two psychiatrists declared him insane? The court made this decision for expediency. I don’t see why we should trust a court to make a decision about a man’s sanity.
Brevik is a nutjob. The principal reason he refuses an insanity plea is probably because of prior experience with antipsychotics – shizophrenics often do not like their medication. Additionally, the insanity defence erodes all his intellectualising into fantasy. Yet he was fully cognizant of what he was doing so hang him.
SFB, why don’t you just mince off to your own blog and engage with your commenters there.
Maybe we should have a SFB appreciation night once a week and en mass go to Steve’s blog and run riot with falsehoods,lies,and far left ideological rants so he can see how purile his arguements are.
Here’s a few topics to get the ball rolling:
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates women
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates asylum seekers
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates Fairfax
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates gays
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates the ABC
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates the arts
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates Liberals
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates Unions
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates board shorts
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates in general
The Swedish legal system is about to get the shit kicked out of it by everyone for that decision. Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
Do you have a problem with that? The same rule applies to us sane people if we try to plead temporary insanity.
No, my attitude is the same as it was with Turner and Einfield: plead mental illness all you like you still committed a crime so go fuck yourselves. Literally, Brevik should hang. The main exception I make to that, and I know this is a guiding principle in Aus Law, is where it can be demonstrated that the person committed the acts whilst in a state of florrid psychosis, a state in which the very existence of the person in question is in doubt.
Serious question for any member of the ALP caucus…
In recent history, you have elected as your leader, two individuals (Latham and Rudd) whom you have later described as mentally unstable and now you support a woman who has admitted that she was naive as a 35 year old partner in a law firm and was incredibly careless in her professional duties. Is there anything that would disqualify someone from being parliamentary leader of the ALP?
In fact DOT, not so long ago people here, like CL and James K, accused me of attacking Turner because she was a liberal. Those shit heads should acquire a memory because I have always been consistent on this position. Pleading mental illness after the fact of committing a crime is just being a coward. Period. In that respect at least Brevik is a cut above Turner and Einfield.
Bonjour from Paris – there have been no obvious outbreaks of craziness. I have cleared the moderation queue but simply deleted the several hundred comments in the spam filter. If you were expecting something and it hasn’t appeared then it’s gone. Sorry.
S’OK SoB. I am naturally of a sunny disposition. Enjoy your lamb.
Do not overcook it. That is a mistake easily made by me.
Inattention in the kitchen is one of my strong capacities.
I am oven-cooking our rib beef steak and that takes care too.
Ah, of course splat. Being disloyal to the tribe is a capital offence but you can be a complete nutter or admit hopeless judgement and incompetence and still command unwavering support from colleagues and the press gallery. You’ll even have a crop of useful idiots like SfB and mUnty at your disposal…
You can even break a Taxi driver’s arm in their zombie army but woe betide you if you cross over into the light. They will shun you quicker than an Amish elder caught leaving a knock shop.
In fact DOT, not so long ago people here, like CL and James K, accused me of attacking Turner because she was a liberal. Those shit heads should acquire a memory…
You first.
You and I discussed Mary-Jo Fisher (whose illness you denied).
I haven’t ever discussed the mental health of anyone named Turner.
I don’t even know who or what you’re talking about.
Gab, next time you’re down, the pier restaurant at Barwon Heads (“At The Heads”) does exquisite creme brulee. Being non-duck fuckers, they also do a competent (though not stellar) duck confit. It’s not Paris, but it’s a better place to sit, right over the water at the river mouth, 100m from the surf beach. Unlike Parisians, they’re not up themselves and prices are reasonable.
That’s what Breivik said, and did. Nice company you’re keeping there.
Fme but Jarrah is thoroughly fatuous ignorant and disgusting commenter.
The Left tried to pin this atrocity by association on Peter Costello, John Howard and Mark Steyn because they were mentioned in his incoherent ramblings.
Breivik was essentially a fascist totalitarian with a hatred of multiculturalism and Islam.
He is a psychopath and not insane.
I’m glad they didn’t find him insane.
That was mature and the first positive sign after many serial disgraces where they had paraded this mass murderer for the consumption of the international media which Breivik loved.
This public trial was an assault on decency and the relatives of the murdered victims
That country is a cesspit of political correctness and leftism.
It has traditionally been small with a culturally and racially homogeneous society recently wealthy through oil.
About the only model where it could be even semi-plausibly argued socialism works.
But clearly the multicultural experiment in Sweden and Norway has not been successful.
The bleating of leftists was to find Breivik insane so they could lock him up permanently.
The means to that was a diagnosis of schizophrenia which would have been an assault on truth.
The loathsome Jarrah having had his lunch handed to him on the other thread tried the low road.
A very very low road. You creep.
Breivik is not on any continuum of ideology with conservative of any subtype or libertarian or classical liberals.
But Jarrah, an inane leftist who misrepresents himself as a libertarian tries it on.
God, Tom and blogstrop are continual whiners, nearly as big as whiners as IT about Australia, insisting on some sort of purity test for commenting on this blog.
It’s very simple: the Right should come back to the centre, accept science, and it will be acceptable to vote for again.
Meanwhile: what should I watch at 9.30 tonight? Male Hookers Revealed on ABC2, or Nazi night on SBS, about a bombing raid on a French jail in 1944?
Is there some kind of competition going on here that I missed? You know, the one about the most obnoxious internet personality for refugees from Boltland?
Don’t worry though febro, SfB is still the biggest fuckwit of all time. He’s all for being led by the nose by puritans, incompetents and mental pygmys…
My demands for freedom and frivolity are seen as whinging by people who want to ban everything. I’m an extremist because I believe in individual responsibility.
IT, for your support, you can join me in my special, three hour silent International Internet Commemoration Meditation for the lowest Arctic Ice Extent for 5000 years (or thereabouts), to be held on Sunday when, I expect, this ominous record will be reached.
I expect it to be run like one of those Buddhist monasteries, where I can thwack you on the head with a heavy wood ruler to help you concentrate.
IT, for your support, you can join me in my special, three hour silent International Internet Commemoration Meditation for the lowest Arctic Ice Extent for 5000 years (or thereabouts), to be held on Sunday when, I expect, this ominous record will be reached.
It’s more serious than i thought. I just went to make a Tanqueray and Tonic and we were out of ice.
Lew Fellowes, of Patersons Securities, says that despite claims by BHP Billiton to the contrary, federal government policy was a main driver behind the company’s decision to put expansion plans on ice.
BHP has deferred a decision on whether to go ahead with an expansion of its Olympic Dam uranium, copper and gold mine in South Australia
It has also decided to not go ahead with a multi-million dollar expansion of the outer harbour at its iron ore operations in Port Hedland in Western Australia.
CEO Marius Kloppers says these were purely prudent, commercial decisions in the face of falling commodity prices and a slow down in demand from key customers like China.
Lew Fellowes, head of Patersons Perth branch, says the investment community firmly believes the decision was in a large part politically motivated.
In particular, he says the Federal Government is starting to realise it won’t reap the high taxes it claimed it would from the tax on iron ore and coal.
That means it will have to target another commodity, and uranium is the obvious one, especially given it has been Greens policy from the very beginning to include uranium in the MRRT.
“There is the issue of commodity prices, but definitely government policy such as the mining tax (MRRT) and the carbon tax have had an impact, even if Marius Kloppers says that’s not the case.
“The MRRT only affects at this stage iron ore and coal, but there is speculation that government may not reach the Budget surplus that it’s forecasting for this year.
“So in years to come, the government of the day may look to expand the tax to other key commodities.
“This is where projects such as the Olympic Dam project would be captured.”
No, it’s always been this way.
And it’s always had highly charged, combative debate.
If you want a taste of what it used to be like, just wait till Bird turns up again, now that Sinc’s on holidays.
Don’t respond to them. Which reminds mw, that “febro” persona is very familiar. I’m certain I have seen it on a Facebook site dedicated to hating Abbott. Really vile stuff. Low level IQ stuff just like “febro” and just as vile as he.
- Monty’s claim that a) the public elected Julia Gillard and; b) the public didn’t elect Julia Gillard.
- Julia Gillard: revelation that she was sacked from her first and only job as an incompetent clown who associated (and, of course, had it off with) a criminal.
- The end-game of Julia Gillard’s trumpeted prediction of two weeks ago that BHP Billiton were definitely going ahead with Olympic Dam.
LOL. Good call.
- Clopper’s beclowning of Leigh Sales and backing of Tony Abbott.
- Julia Gillard’s INSISTENCE that she set up a slush fund, not a trust fund.
“Don’t respond to them. Which reminds mw, that “febro” persona is very familiar. I’m certain I have seen it on a Facebook site dedicated to hating Abbott. Really vile stuff. Low level IQ stuff just like “febro” and just as vile as he.”
yes that sounds correct and sfb is sympatico with febro. yuck.
“The MRRT only affects at this stage iron ore and coal, but there is speculation that government may not reach the Budget surplus that it’s forecasting for this year.
“So in years to come, the government of the day may look to expand the tax to other key commodities.
Given the genii in government are suddenly realising that $10bn has been “lost” from the imaginary budget surplus, it’s no stretch of the imagination to consider if this current band of nutjobs in government get another term, they will increase the MRRT % and they will extend it to cover uranium and copper.
thanks Dover
and CL for self beclowning of the week
what about Gillard’s insisting ‘I did nothing wrong’
No, only that stuff you did which resulted in that ‘re election slush fund’ Association for the misleadingly cloaked in the raiment of workplace safety reform
which in turn resulted in monies being rorted from AWU – one of your firm’s major clients
Wow. David Humphries in the SMH not impressed with Gillard’s infamous press conference lie-fest.
The association’s stated purpose – at least according to a 1992 public notice – was to promote and encourage ”workplace reform” in construction and maintenance. But it wasn’t used for workplace safety and training…
Much of the more salacious, zany and explicitly offensive commentary (and invention) has been restricted to internet ranting – to what Gillard called misogynists and nut jobs. That is not a description neatly befitting Peter Gordon and Nick Styant-Browne, two former senior partners at Slater and Gordon, however.
Candy, interesting point you make about a new DSM-1V for ‘social movement’ disorders, but I’d suggest these characteristics of feeling ‘threatened and oppressed’ are surely subsumed under one or more of the other broader categories. We could go on forever inventing new ‘pathologies’.
Islamic terrorists come to mind when we consider unstable personalities being culturally conditioned into rigid mindsets, although other ‘groupthinks’ abound, not necessarily underpinned by psychiatric disorders.
I’m not too keen on these behaviourally-characterised personality disorder classificatory systems anyway as they all seem to overlap, they are not necessarily stable in an individual over time, there is definitional latitude, and much diagnostic inconsistency, which all means that allocation to one or t’other in any given individual can be fairly arbitrary.
I’d prefer to look for some pointers to the inter-mix factors of biochemical and neurological changes and environmental stressors etc on brain functioning to assist understanding of unusual processing indicated by stand-out behaviours or dysfunctions. The latter are so labile and socially variable that in and of themselves they are not so useful.
I have no specific training in this area, just thinking aloud from a general scientific/biological/epidemiological base. Wonder what others think too.
Zanetti has a thing or two to say about our nutjob PM:
In 30+ years of cartooning, I’ve never seen a politician, let alone a Prime Minister, react to cartoons and / or questions in such a way that he (or she) would resort to personal abuse and denigration of the satirist at a press conference. She lost it.
The Prime Minister attacked Pickering at a media conference, not once but three times, today labelling him, his cartoons and relevant revelations and questions about her dodgy past, a ‘misogynist’, ‘sexist’, ‘smear’ campaign. (He’s drawn a relatively few cartoons of Julia in the nuddy – but no private part showing). Commentators are now wondering, “Golly, Pickering hasn’t drawn male politicians like that, has he? He must be a misogynist sexist. The cartoons are offensive. He must be a woman hater.”
Really?
Again, research is severely lacking by the ‘young and naive’ commentators I was watching on the telly this afternoon.
Pickering shot to national prominence over 30 years ago as cartoonist for The Australian when he infamously drew our then PM, Malcolm Fraser and other political notable figures (Hawke, McMahon, Howard, Prince Charles, Bjelke-Petersen, Margaret Guilfoyle and even the Queen) in the nuddy running around the jungle. These depictions of our politicians were so popular with readers many bought the weekend paper, turning straight to The Jungle Series strip for their weekly fix of tall-poppy pricking. The quintessential Aussie larrikin, Pickering has never aimed his humour at the pollies. He draws (and still draws) and comments for the every man (oops, and woman).
Then there were the notorious Pickering calendars (a commercially successful byproduct of The Jungle Series) that sold out year after year, for over a decade in the hundreds of thousands. The subject of the calendars titled, ‘Pickering’s Political Playmates’?
Politicians and personalities, of both sexes, and all sizes and shapes – in the nuddy! Outrageously hilarious!
Private parts were portrayed uproariously as reflections of the caricatured character’s personality. Australians laughed in the millions. This unique Aussie ability to self deprecate, to laugh at ourselves, and our leaders, to not take ourselves too seriously, is ingrained in the national character and has been since the place was first settled by those Pommy bast… the British.
Gillard’s been treated no differently, or any less, than the others, most who call Pickering asking for the original drawings of themselves. Prince Charles did so and he’s a Pommy bast…um, British. I just got a message a couple of minutes ago from Pickering saying that reporter Peter van Onselen, who Pickering drew in a cartoon today cowering under a TV studio desk afraid to ask the PM a question, emailed Pickering this afternoon, asking for the original cartoon. My respect for van Onselen, who I’d yesterday called – perhaps a little too harshly – a love struck teenager, has gone up a notch or three.
That’s how you do it, Prime Minister. Ya laugh at yaself. Pickering and I have over the years, caricatured and lampooned politicians, many who ask for the original drawing. Clever PMs and Premiers launch cartoon products and books with cartoonists when they’ve been the centre of the joke. Pickering was a favourite for pics with pollies who saw political advantage in being seen by the Australian public with the court jesters. It helps with their common touch thing, and hence public opinion. Hint, hint, Julia.
David Humphries gets it right. Her explanation at the press conference was a complete fabrication given her , probably honest, answer to her partners. She lied at the press conference. She has nothing.
They got David Frum (the GOP’s Malcolm Fraser equivalent).
Frum was a speech writer for ‘W’Bush.
Frum loathes conservatives and libertarians in da GOP and he was kicked out of National Review Magazine.
He’s treated like a leper.
And his farcically lefty arguments are mercilessly but politely deconstructed by his former colleagues.
So: perfect conservative malcontent for a Lateline interview.
And did the intro story pile on the misinformation just to get us warmed up.
Apparently Romney wants to be a technocrat but the malevolent conservatives GOP establishment (I kid you not) have boxed him in.
The conservatives have only one economic button which they want to press again despite it failing the last time whilst the Dems are multi-faceted or somesuch.
Given the genii in government are suddenly realising that $10bn has been “lost” from the imaginary budget surplus, it’s no stretch of the imagination to consider if this current band of nutjobs in government get another term, they will increase the MRRT % and they will extend it to cover uranium and copper.
Indeed, leading ALP intellectual Dougie Niv Cameron has demanded exactly that, not to mention a Tobin tax too. There is just an infantessimally small part of me that wants to see the ALP get up at the next election so they have to eat all of the shit sandwiches they’ve prepared for Abbott. There is no way they can fund a NDIS, Gonski, etc. without a stack of new taxes or massive spending cuts elsewhere. Leaving aside the merits of these ideas, the ALP are only proposing all of these motherhood programs to skewer Abbott not because they care about Australia or Australians. They really are the scum of the earth…
Candy, interesting point you make about a new DSM-1V for ‘social movement’ disorders, but I’d suggest these characteristics of feeling ‘threatened and oppressed’ are surely subsumed under one or more of the other broader categories. We could go on forever inventing new ‘pathologies’.
Fascinating, not 30 sec ago I posted on a neuro forum about the latest DSM madness. I also mentioned that I just finished reading “unshrinking psychosis” wherein the author argues that psychosis, in some cases, is actually a transition process. Psychosis itself is bad but the final outcome could be good. Not sure about this so asks a psychiatrist there for her opinion.
As to the diagnosis issues, there is a very simple reason why it is so hard to clearly identify a mental illness. That being: try and define normal behavior. Go on, try. So stop thinking that silly anti-psychiatry notion that because we can’t accurately describe and diagnosis mental illness ipso facto it is a furphy.
I’d prefer to look for some pointers to the inter-mix factors of biochemical and neurological changes and environmental stressors etc on brain functioning to assist understanding of unusual processing indicated by stand-out behaviours or dysfunctions. The latter are so labile and socially variable that in and of themselves they are not so useful.
The data on this is all over the shop. We will never have clear biochemical markers because all brains function in ways we barely understand. For eg. Just this week a research piece found that in spite of brain damage induced in rats to mimic the symptoms of schizophrenia, with appropriate training the rats matured with no behavioral pathology but very real neurological pathology. This is a complexity issue, as I suggested to someone long ago: forget that modularity stuff, the brain can get the same job done through many avenues, which means that this is an intractable computable problem.
So have some sympathy for psychiatrists. They are attempting the near impossible the poor bastards.
As for the ‘nutjob’ barb, PM. That ‘nutjob’ got you standing at a podium for almost an hour, all from his keyboard, inciting legitimate questions while you fielded answers about your very questionable past. If he’s a nutjob, then he should have been ignored and discredited long ago. But you gave him all the time in the world today, the longest press conference from a PM in decades according to stunned political observers. Pretty crafty ol’ ‘nutjob’.
Yes, long ago a Washington neurologist identified 3 key factors:
A family history of psychiatric illness
Child abuse in some form
Notable CNS abnormalities, (with the orbitofrontals often implicated but this is contentious).
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A text I read by an expert on psychopaths said that whereas as many psychopathologies don’t rear their head until the latter childhood years, the psychopath was there from the very beginning.
Good post by Zanetti. True. Pickering won. Interesting too that an SMH writer is back out there, already over the shock of Gillard’s stunning press conference bullshit and putting the same unanswered questions.
Serial killers are often caught because of that very fact.
Here is an excellent example of that James. Two detectives had found enough evidence to convict a serial killer on two women murders but they were certain he had committed others. Initially they tried to appeal to his conscience, suggesting the families needed closure blah blah. Didn’t work. Then one detective started telling the killer that he was just another killer, nothing special, a loser. Then they got their confession.
Pickering regularly draws the PM with a strap-on dildo.
He’s a dickhead.
He regularly drew Dame Margaret Guilfoyle with an untended, ever-expanding bush. Note once again the Australian left’s seemingly unstoppable lurch toward the moral policing manias of Flo Bjelke-Petersen and Fred Nile.
Interesting too that an SMH writer is back out there, already over the shock of Gillard’s stunning press conference bullshit and putting the same unanswered questions.
It wasn’t hard; all he had to do was wash his face with cold water this morning.
Pickering regularly draws the PM with a strap-on dildo
Any leftwing troll ever complain when Howard was referred to as all sorts of names regarding his appearance and demeanor. The Left made a musical of Keating’s abuse and they loved it.
“Candy, interesting point you make about a new DSM-1V for ‘social movement’ disorders, but I’d suggest these …
yeh Elizabeth, probably the usual, some rotten family upbringing and neurological disorders perhaps drugs = timebomb
but that breivek person seemed articulate and directed to a cause … guess in time he’ll become a shattered shambles of a person in prison, just as be was probably destined to be anyway.
I think serial killer psychological profilers depend on the killer’s need for their personal signature.
The killings become more elaborate over time.
There was a great movie on an infamous Russian serial killer Citizen X starring Stephen Rea and Donald Sutherland.
When Rea got his man, he couldn’t prove guilt and he was going to have to let him go for the second time.
The psychiatrist that Rea got to advise him appealed to the man by detailing the brilliance and attention to detail of the killer and the pointlessness of it all when he could not let the world know who he was.
Note once again the Australian left’s seemingly unstoppable lurch toward the moral policing manias of Flo Bjelke-Petersen and Fred Nile.
I could make a remark about the socialists and their exceptions in the new Utopia we seem to be hurtling towards – such as sex workers being entitled to set up a brothel in a family-run motel trampling on the rights of the owners; killing unborn babies being something cool to do before 10am pilates; the environmental dangers of letting balloons waft skywards, but I won’t.
Yes, they really are a totalitarian and prurient lot, unless it is a matter of their ‘personal freedom’, like getting off with married men with children..
then photographed and put above the fold front pages of broadsheet newspapers.
The faux outrage against and thorough misrepresentation of the oldies convoy protest to Canberra on the carbon tax is an example of leftist hypocrisy as is sdfc’s latest pathetic lamentations
Just finally, I want to clear up a misconception in parts of the media that Insiders – and The Australian – stopped using Glenn Milne as a commentator because he pursued the Julia Gillard-Slater & Gordon-Bruce Wilson story.
AN Oslo court tonight sentenced Norwegian far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik to 21 years in prison, subject to extension, for his killing spree last year that left 77 people dead
shit… not again.
NEW YORK (AP) — New York City officials say several people have been shot outside the Empire State Building and that the gunman is dead.
City police say three or four civilians have been wounded in the Friday morning shooting and that the shooter is dead.
A fire department spokesman says it received a call about the shooting just after at 9 a.m. Friday and that emergency units were on the scene within minutes.
The spokesman had no information about how many people were wounded or their conditions.
The shooting occurred at 34th Street and Fifth Avenue.
blurst
Yobbo
22 Aug 12 at 11:43 pm
Troubled US Vice President Joe Biden says Republicans are “squealing pigs.”
C.L.
22 Aug 12 at 11:45 pm
Hey, slow down there, CL. I think Biden is hilarious.
benson
22 Aug 12 at 11:52 pm
Joe “Chains” Biden, holla!
dover_beach
22 Aug 12 at 11:57 pm
Another short sharp tellingly informative Romney ad:
New Romney ad reminds us nothing is free, attacks Obama for raiding Medicare to pay for Obamacare
31 secs
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:00 am
Good ad.
Obama is going to tax wheelchairs, it says.
Wow. That’s low.
What do you think, Chuck?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:03 am
Hedley Thomas strikes again:
Julia Gillard set up ‘work safety’ entity that was a slush fund.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:06 am
What do you think, Chuck?
Gee, you never miss an opportunity.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 12:10 am
LOL.
Leftists have gone mouth-foamingly insane about Niall Ferguson’s cover-story in Newsweek.
Niall Ferguson Defends Newsweek Cover: Correct This, Bloggers
Aug 21, 2012 12:13 PM EDT
First, duck the argument. Second, nitpick. Third, vilify. That’s what Niall Ferguson says liberal bloggers did after reading his Newsweek story on Obama’s record. Here, he offers a point-by-point defense of his argument.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:11 am
Gosh but they’re an incestuous lot:
And wow do they sound elitist, hloier-than-though, how dare you question me…
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:15 am
Lo-even-L!
Nicola Roxon worked on files after Julia Gillard left Slater & Gordon
What an incestuous cesspool this repugnantly rotten generational shower of union legal-sleazes and union heavies this modern ALP party really are.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:18 am
Well, well, well:
Nicola Roxon worked on files after Julia Gillard left Slater & Gordon
La Casa Nostra on the Yarra
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 12:19 am
Snap!
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 12:19 am
people, people. Refresh and check before you post.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:22 am
Snap-a-palooza!
Good God. The Methodist Ladies’ College morals campaigner is now involved.
FM.
And hey – by the way: that bird who ‘cleared’ Craig Thompson the other day (chairman of the parliamentary privileges committee) is also a former AWU zombie.
This is literally Watergate stuff.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:23 am
CL, considering what has passed over the last few weeks, I’m now surprised if no one from the AWU is involved.
Sorry, Gab, but I was too busy guffawing while cutting and pasting.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 12:26 am
S&G and Maurice Blackburn keeping the ALP in the money, so, yeah, why not promote from within…
Well they do work for the unions so it’s only natural they donate to the Liars Party.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:27 am
How is this not corrupt?
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:28 am
Still love your work after all these years.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:29 am
Lol.. I can’t believe what I’m reading.
Is anyone going to pull the plug on this one? Anyone?
JC
23 Aug 12 at 12:31 am
This isn’t a political party, it’s a freaking sewer.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 12:33 am
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott, didn’t she. It was like watching a schoolboy who hasn’t studied being destroyed in an oral exam.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:34 am
Is wilkie going to be one one person who helps pull the plug?
JC
23 Aug 12 at 12:34 am
Murphy was the one who recruited Gillard to work at S&G and was her mentor. He also worked with Nanny Roxon at MB. Following is an article on the sticky bits of the recent Murphy appointment.
http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2011/10/17/julia-gillard-appoints-bernard-murphy-her-partner-in-crime-from-slater-and-gordon-lawyers-as-a-federal-court-of-australia-judge/
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:35 am
No actually she didn’t. She came off as a testy little schoolgirl who couldn’t get her way. I wish she would actually ask questions of importance. Bring back Uhlmann, at least he’s intelligent and asks probing questions regardless the guest.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:39 am
Whack. This will leave a mark.
M
JC
23 Aug 12 at 12:40 am
Wowee, Leigh Sales really did wipe the floor with Tony Abbott, didn’t she. It was like watching a schoolboy who hasn’t studied being destroyed in an oral exam.
Wowee m0nty is really brainless like liar-steve on the other thread:
Here was my response:
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:41 am
LOL. I just read the transcript of Leigh Sales embarrassing herself over what we now know to be the biggest scandal involving a prime minister since Whitlam.
Leigh slept through it.
Oops.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:42 am
Abbott may not have wanted to sell his arse, but Leigh Sales just handed it to him.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:42 am
wish I had a dollar for every time I saw that comment tonight. I’d be rich.
Try to be a little original.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:43 am
Next time Abbott comes on 7:30 to talk about a document, he might want to actually read the document first, you know.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:44 am
How about this: Hey, Abbott can sell his arse now, cos Leigh Sales just ripped him a new one!
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:46 am
Monst
It’s times like this you wished the Finkelstein laws were up and working, yea?
JC
23 Aug 12 at 12:47 am
How about this one: After Leigh Sales asked so many times about how Tony Abbott had been loose with the truth, the next interview should be about how he’s loose with his arse!
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:50 am
It’s no exggeration to say that Gillardgate is now the biggest and most serious federal scandal since Whitlam, Khemlani and Rex Connor.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:50 am
Under any conservative administration the Canberra press gallery would have been savaging the PM for the last 12 months and baying for blood.
I think people are actually numb to the incompetence and the stinking rot.
It’s like a significant proportion of the electorate is punch drunk, tuned out and think it’s all only mildly abnormal.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:50 am
Telling observation m0nty.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:51 am
Or this one: Leigh Sales called Tony Abbott up on how he keeps lying about asylum seekers being illegal, but doesn’t he also know that selling his arse is illegal?
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:52 am
So she says it was set up for “training”. but in the exit interview/investigation she said it was a “slush fund”.
So when did she realize it was a slush fund and not as stated in the articles of association which she set up for the entity?
And why didn’t she tell her employer when she ascertained it was a slush fund?
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:53 am
Oh – you mean the one issued by a publicly listed company released earlier that day when Tonee was in parliament that Leigh told him she’d ask him about?
You’ve been about as pathetic as I’ve ever seen you yesterday m0nty and the run is continuing into the wee small hours.
Lucky for us.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:54 am
Tony Abbott must be really bummed out after that Leigh Sales interview. He got a full reaming… of a journalistic kind, of course. Now he’s in the poo. She drove him batty, boy.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:55 am
He came on specifically to talk about it. Without having read it. What a maroon.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:56 am
m0nty I understand that you’re an unhealthy fat bastard.
Drugs are particularly unsafe for people in your condition.
Don’t take any more and ask a friend to watch over you for a few hours, just in case.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:57 am
Wow.
The Age comes on board, suggests Gillard may be guilty of a criminal offence…
Did PM break the law in WA?
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:59 am
How it all started…
Gillard on Australian Story, 2006
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:01 am
Only the ABC is holding out now.
Loyal till the bitter end.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 1:28 am
So is Leigh Sales still suffering fom ‘baby brain’ or is she just another biased ALPBC hack?
Cold-Hands
23 Aug 12 at 1:33 am
Arthur Brooks: The Virtues of ‘Ryanism’
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 1:57 am
Hypocrisy much? Careful what you wish for PM
jules
23 Aug 12 at 4:20 am
Recently Nicola Roxon said this of the role of the Attorney General in a speech to the Victorian Bar Association.
So how is she creating a fair and just Australia by supporting a PM that she knows to be a party to a fraud to steal workers’ money?
Lets just recap, the last two Attorney Generals in this country have both supported a PM they know to be corrupt. Heck of a job Nicola and Robert. Filth, the lot of them.
The Royal Commission into this is going to be a hoot that keeps us occupied for years. Already we are getting a glimpse of the colorful characters who will appear like Chook Fowler in the Royal Commission. Bring it on.
John Comnenus
23 Aug 12 at 4:28 am
Never known Paul howes to be this quiet!
stu
23 Aug 12 at 4:38 am
Paul Howes is busy implementing his zero tolerance jihad on Union corruption. Right now he is investigating rumours that Tony Abbott scammed a free beer from an AWU member during a visit to a factory that coincided with Friday evening beers. Piggy Howes has also heard rumours that Joe Hockey is in on the scam and often has TWO beers.
John Comnenus
23 Aug 12 at 4:52 am
Conroy on today fucking up royally
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 6:15 am
He confirms that unionistas “usually” set up slush funds for re-election with their own money, in this case, not so much.
Interviewer lost his gall, I’d say a lawyer is off to stage right waving their hands profusely.
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 6:21 am
So now you’re up at 6am screaming your hatred of the next prime minister, troll. Have you booked your bus ticket to the 2013 Canberra burning, yet? Fuck off, scum.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 6:27 am
Dear M0nty,
Are you by any chance Wayne Swan? I usually read or listen to both sides of an argument, but after wading through the drivel you have recently posted, I think I’ll just skip over your posts from now on.
JonSan
23 Aug 12 at 6:32 am
Unfortunately not, JonSan. Welcome aboard! Monty is actually an intellectual powerhouse of the Australian business community.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 6:42 am
Jay zuz! Is that really Monty?
Need to work on that Euro tan mate, get outside, synthesise some vitamin D
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 6:54 am
And get thee to LA and liposuction those eyelids
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 6:56 am
Link
Rudiau
23 Aug 12 at 7:11 am
6.21am? The fiber’s on overtime. Desperation in the ranks?
Rudiau
23 Aug 12 at 7:13 am
Conroy tries to polish Gillard’s turd but it falls apart in his hands on Sunrise this morning.
How many times when confronted with the facts did he obscurate and blame the Liberal Party.
The more the media squeezes more pus seems to come out.
Splatacrobat
23 Aug 12 at 7:18 am
A very distant love. He and sport are pen pals.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 7:23 am
I’ve just seen the 7.30 interview. The zombies reckon Abbott got rolled? Remembering the sole purpose of the interview was to foster hatred of Abbott to distract from the fact that a hugely unpopular government appears to be disintegrating, he did a sterling job of not being railroaded. There are virtually no media opportunities where Abbott doesn’t have to endure interviewers who can barely conceal their personal hatred of him (Leigh Sales being one of the worst), even though he will be prime minister of the next national government. I’ve never seen anything like it in Australian politics. The story is what the media are doing.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 7:35 am
More bloody nannying.
They’re an excellent gift. Why not limit sales to adults?
kae
23 Aug 12 at 7:38 am
M… even looks like the fat cat unionists he supports…
Cory Olsen
23 Aug 12 at 7:48 am
Sheer madness Kae.
Bolt points out Sales’ several failures.
And the motivation.
First order of business of the incoming Abbott government : defund the ABC. At this stage you couldn’t sell it.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 7:52 am
I note that on the front page of the West Australian Newspaper that the WA government of the day gave more than $380,000 of taxpayers money to Julia’s an Bruce’s “slush fund”. uh oh…
Antipodean
23 Aug 12 at 7:54 am
I find it interesting that the luvvie rags finally started ‘talking’ about GillardGate, AFTER Pickering posted this:
ADVICE TO THE PRIME MINISTER:
Do not answer any questions!
Under no circumstances answer any question from anyone, including Paul Kelly. Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.
You know there is much material yet to be released: Transcripts, tapes, signed statements, affidavits, the evidence of Blewitt, Wilson’s media deal, McClelland, Cambridge, a Federal Court Judge, former partners, colleagues and associates, the AWU, the Law Institute, Vic Police FOI material and much more.
You cannot possibly know the extent of what will be presented as corroborated evidence. Get one thing wrong and you will be mercilessly beaten all the way to the gallows with it.
Keep stonewalling them Prime Minister. You are on a hiding to nothing… unless of course you want to tell the entire truth. But that would be a silly and uncharacteristic thing to do.
Oh dear, silly me! Fancy teaching you to suck eggs when your army of well-paid minders would have already advised you of that.
Anyway, just hang in there, mate. It might all go away.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Larry-Pickering/236991276355038
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 7:55 am
News does a nice bit of propaganda on Paul Ryan attributing the “rape victims dont get pregnant” to him graphically.
http://www.reasonablylikely.com.au/rape-victims-dont-get-pregnant/
Ken S
23 Aug 12 at 7:55 am
Thanks, Antipodean! From the West Australian:
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:07 am
I hope the Love Media keep up their old tricks as they are just making everything worse for Gillard.
Phil Coorey tries to run defense for Gillard by attacking the character of Blewitt and all he does is prove that Gillard really does live up to the old saying that you can judge a person by the company she keeps.
One problem here Phil. If this man is so dodgy, why did Gillard feel comfortable breaking WA law and set up a Workplace Association with just 2 names on it instead of the required # – Blewitt & Wilson?
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:20 am
Surely there is some hardware inside the ABC that could be sold as scrap?
whalehunt fun
23 Aug 12 at 8:21 am
So the taxpayers gave money to a wealthy construction company to give to a union slush fund.
That’s never happened before nor since.
LOL
So PM Bonnie’s Clyde ‘stole’ from a fraud on a fraud slush fund.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 8:21 am
Don’t forget Joe Trio, Thiess Contractors’ WA Manager was
Wilson’s brother in-law.
Rudiau
23 Aug 12 at 8:22 am
By the way, did Coorey just tell us another unexpected truth here or did he cock up?
Is it true that Gillard did the conveyancing? THAT is NEW information.
If so, what documents did she get her hands on about the ownership of the property through the process?
I can smell a goldmine of information here.
To restate some questions I came up with yesterday which would be lovely to find out:
What documentation did S&G require for the finances?
* Did S&G they see evidence of the inital deposit?
* What bank account was the money for the deposit drawn against (i.e. the Association)?
If S&G did the conveyancing, they would’ve needed to see the cheque that paid the deposit for the purchase. They would’ve got a payment for the stamp duty.
What was the name of the bank account that those cheques were drawn from? If the property is to go in a private name and the bank account is not the is not the same name, checks on the details need to be made.
They would need to ensure they understand who owns the property to assess whether stamp duty is payable…
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:24 am
Of course, the fact that Australia now has one of the most hostile regimes on earth for business has nothing to do with it:
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:25 am
I have a little knowledge through associates about the Anzac frigate process in the 1990′s and I suggest a thorough audit of that multi-billion dollar project would reveal similar training-funds come slush-funds.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:26 am
Tom
Just from memory I think there was a relationship (brother in law or something) between the Theiss employee interviewed by the police about Theiss contributions and Blewitt and the Theiss employee said he did not believe any fraud had occurred
Maybe someone else has a better memory
I did watch the 7.30 report and also think Abbott did well
val majkus
23 Aug 12 at 8:27 am
And the guy in charge of Thiess at the time was Wilson’s brother in law was he not?
Helped launder the government funds and then refused to file a complaint.
What incestuous scum.
WA government can now bring a case against Thiess for defrauding the government.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 8:28 am
Yes Val, it was the brother in law Joe Trio.
Named in the SMH report.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 8:29 am
This scandal even gets a mention on The Monthly.
On the ABC ? – nope.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 8:31 am
Yes you could. And SBS with it. Swan’s budget legacy would present an incoming Coalition Govt with the rationale for acting, also. My fear is that Abbott will continue to front up at the ABC to be harranged by the frothing at the mouth crew and continue to fund it as normal.
Ivan Denisovich
23 Aug 12 at 8:33 am
Seems like everyone in the cabinet owns a little bit of Gillard due to her past:
With the skeletons she has in her closet it is clear she would stay bought.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:35 am
Remember that Slapper & Gordon also advanced $150,000 by way of mortgage for the purchase of “Blewitts” Kerr Street property.
Presumably, this would have been the then common practice of lending client’s Trust monies – with full due diligence, of course.
Interesting times.
Kaboom
23 Aug 12 at 8:36 am
Recall the coverage of the Pink Batts scandal on the ABC while workers were dying and houses were burning down? Zip
Remember how the ABC covered the BER scandal? Zip
Solar panels scandal? Zip
You’d think there was a dominant culture in the ABC detirmined to destroy the institution…
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:37 am
The cheque used to purchase the property was on the supposed entity that Gillard set up.
The cheque was given to S&G and deposited in their Trust Bank A/C.
Why did Gillard/S&G do conveyancing on a private property paid for with a ‘union’ cheque?
I suspect Gillard walked to work on Monday morning after the auction from Bruce’s bed with the cheque in her handbag
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 8:38 am
BINGO!
..and the slapper did the conveyancing on that work which the partners of S&G would’ve realised during the exit process.
Yes, interesting times Kaboom!
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:39 am
Keith that’s it yes, thanks
val majkus
23 Aug 12 at 8:40 am
http://asiancorrespondent.com/42842/how-our-abc-missed-climategate/
Ivan Denisovich
23 Aug 12 at 8:42 am
Consider it done. The next Media Minister will probably be Opposition media spokesman Malcolm Turnbull, a sustainability zombie promoting Green dollar schemes for the banking industry, who will set out to protect the ABC’s ability to pump out wall-to-wall Green propaganda unchallenged.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:43 am
Ha! Fat, stupid fraud bites off more than he can chew…
Here’s the piece that’s inspired this litigi-digousness…
Rabz
23 Aug 12 at 8:44 am
No she was just hostile.
I remember the furor from the luvvie media when Mike Smith on 4BC put Gillard on the back foot by refusing to let her lie about about East Timor (listen to the classic interview at this link).
That is how you wipe the floor with an inept interviewee.
BTW, when you listen to the interview you can understand why Gillard is too scared to have an real interviewer like Smith and sought to get him sacked.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:46 am
Good work mOron. Doing the ALP thing – attacking Abbott when the luvvies have been exposed as dishonest, fraudulent and possibly criminal. Played perfectly to the script. So all your talk was just shit talk last night. Go and hit that SW a full 50 metres you cretin.
StevieLiar. Have you made breakfast for your man?
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 8:47 am
It’s like what you experience with children, when they are quiet for a long time you know they are up to something bad…
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is working to transfer the house into a Workplace Association or similar considering more than one person has lost their job due to the carbin tax…
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:55 am
monty,
Shorten, Trio, Roxon, Gillard, Ludwig, Wilson, Williamson, Thomson, Jackson and Blewitt are all crooks.
They are all guilty of serious indictable offences.
Still think I’m gonna get sued, dumbarse?
Boom. Fraud.
The Fitzroy house was bought in Mr Blewitt’s name, even though he did not have the assets to finance the purchase, and it was Mr Wilson who lived in it. Ms Gillard did the conveyancing work. Ms Gillard has always denied any knowledge of, or role in, illegal behaviour and none has been shown. Her former partners say an internal inquiry uncovered no legal wrongdoing.
As Token sez:
Boom. Tax evasion.
Boom tick. Intimidation, unwarranted demands and perverting the course of justice.
monty – tell us now – will you go to gaol as well when this all clears up?
.
23 Aug 12 at 9:02 am
Rabz,
I suspect Mann’s case against Ball is going to collapse for the same reason.
Link
O’Sullivan has been a major supporter of Ball ever since Mann sued him.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 9:05 am
and Climategate? zip
val majkus
23 Aug 12 at 9:05 am
Be gentle on him Dot, it is not easy for someone to watch all everything they believe in be shown to be corrupt and false.
Actually people in such cases are prone to join kooky & possibly financially dangerous cults.
Don’t do it to yourself M0nty, don’t go all AGW like SoB!!!!
Token
23 Aug 12 at 9:08 am
The Australian Labor Party:
Moving Australia ForwardThis Thing of Ours.
lotocoti
23 Aug 12 at 9:15 am
Yes, fair point. And the real estate.
I was thinking of sale as a going concern.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 9:16 am
Arctic ice about to reach new, low low levels, with likely continuing weirding of weather due to jet stream changes as a consequence.
And all Catallaxian denialists can spend days doing is imagining exactly what happened in a law firm 20 years ago.
As with climate change, they don’t understand evidence or have any sense of proportion.
As noted before: a large slab of the Right has gone stupid, and it must return to the sensible middle before it can be trusted again.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:17 am
Then there’s the ABC’s weekly forgettory, Media Watch, with its modus operandi of bias by omission. The ABC is a blind eye factory masquerading as a media organisation.
Ivan Denisovich
23 Aug 12 at 9:20 am
Also, somewhat bizarrely, Catallaxian residents continue to call for the ABC to be privatised, despite it being the one media outlet where Catallaxy bloggers get regular exposure on the Drum, both on the internet and TV, as well as Radio National.
I think Sinclair has been on the Bolt Report once?
But they think privatising will help expose the ideas of the Right?
Huh.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:21 am
And yet after 17 years of supposedly criminal behaviour, not one of them has ever been arrested. Perhaps you should become a policeman, Dennis Dotto, because as a lawyer you are a complete failure.
Your only defence to libel is that this blog is so obscure that there aren’t enough people reading it for the reputations of these people to be materially besmirched.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 9:23 am
Nice irrelevancy there. And leading with the chin.
Tell us, how many hissy fits does the Liar’s Party pay to generate per day ? Or is it piece work ?
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 9:25 am
I should have mentioned the IPA regulars on the Drum too – Berg, Wilson.
All funded by who knows who, but appearing for free on The Drum.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:26 am
Oh, and I’m forgetting Judith’s appearances on Q&A.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:27 am
In the context of home renovations and Greek builders, today’s Nicholson cartoon in The Australian is a classic.
Steve D
23 Aug 12 at 9:27 am
In one, two, three cue that fucking moronic dipshit SfB with another terrifying prediction…
So comparatively speaking new, low low levels since when you braindead fuckstick.
Jetstream changes? Now given the name – when do you think they are measuring change from. Fuck me some people will roll out the most ridiculous tripe.
Hey penis breath what do you make of covering the Barrier Reef with shade cloth?
Old Fridgie
23 Aug 12 at 9:30 am
My defence to libel is the truth, monty.
Fraud, tax evasion, intimidation, unwarranted demands and perverting the course of justice.
They are all implicated.
.
23 Aug 12 at 9:31 am
No. Collectively ABC journos and editorial staff should be regarded as morally no better than pickpockets. If they want to propogandise on behalf of the left in breach of the ABC charter they should pay for it themselves. There’s no guarantee that a buyer would provide impartial coverage but it would be their money not taxpayers.
Ivan Denisovich
23 Aug 12 at 9:32 am
Name one conservative presenter on one major ABC news, current affairs or political analysis show who is conservative, liar-steve™
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:32 am
No one was defrauded.
.
23 Aug 12 at 9:33 am
“new low low” liar-steve™?
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:34 am
Steve and m0nty seem rather desperate to change the subject from GillardGate this morning.
Wonder why…
MDMConnell
23 Aug 12 at 9:34 am
Decode : “Wah ! I don’t want to think about Gillard’s total lack of integrity, and I don’t want you people to discuss it either ! “
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 9:35 am
Old Fridgee’s sound analysis wins the day.
That is: “that can’t be right, and you’re gay.”
Immature, old, and irresponsible.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:35 am
Answer the questions then kind sir, what time frame are you measuring the change over?, and why should this be of concern…
Old Fridgie
23 Aug 12 at 9:37 am
You can talk about it all you like, Keith. It is boring, repetitive and a right wing fantasy game involving lesbian jail scenes, but if you think that makes you relevant, go ahead.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:37 am
What a completely useless tosser you are lair.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:37 am
So why has there been no move at all to charge any of these people with these crimes? Tell me, Mr Dotto.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 9:40 am
“Arctic ice about to reach new, low low levels, with likely continuing weirding of weather due to jet stream changes as a consequence.”
sorry Steve who gives a toss about a “jet stream” it don’t figure in day to day life of most people
candy
23 Aug 12 at 9:41 am
As more of this story comes to light my concern is that the whole thing is ‘too big to fail’. Too many people in high places, with way too much to lose. Makes a cover-up all the more important, desperate and necessary.
Ellen of Tasmania
23 Aug 12 at 9:41 am
Not that you’re really interested, Old Fridgee. You’ve already decided.
You probably didn’t click on the last link I gave anyway before swinging in with your rubbish.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:41 am
candy, that is because you don’t live in the northern hemisphere.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:42 am
So boring in fact that you engaged in alternatively smearing commenters here, attempting to change the subject or deliberately misconstruing the facts yesterday. And this all happened after you declared the topic “boring” at about 10am.
I guess we can expect another day of your prurient drivel.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 9:43 am
candy, quite frankly, if you don’t take an interest in climate change, you are being irresponsible for your descendants too. Although you sound young enough to see serious problems develop.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:45 am
Too funny: With Arctic sea ice extent more than 70,000 Manhattans larger than he suggested five years ago, warmist Serreze claims he has “a sense of amazement” that sea ice numbers are so low
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:47 am
More thread pollution from the usual wasters of pixels.
blogstrop
23 Aug 12 at 9:48 am
Why is it that Leigh Sales on the 730 report badgers Tony Abbott about what answers he should ask Julia Gillard about her past and other dubious activities?
Surely Leigh Sales should ask those questions directly herself to Julia Gillard.Perhaps she afraid to do do because of the consequences of retribution as has happened to others who have been brave enough to ask the questions Leigh inferred Tony Abbott would ask of Julia Gillard..
Perhaps the ABC 730 Report is more into channeling through others for answers than its own weak investigative reporting.
Peter from Sunshine Coast
23 Aug 12 at 9:48 am
You know you are right! I have already decided not to listen to alarmist bullshit propaganda from fucking idiots like you!
Anyway answer the question why should we be worried, or do you just like spouting alarmists statements for comedic affect?
Secondly what do you make of covering the Barrier Reef with shade cloth to save it from AGW, another idea straight from the annuls of the AGW book of great ideas and solutions to problems that don’t exist?
Old Fridgie
23 Aug 12 at 9:49 am
Landeryou thinks Blewitt might be a sex tourist too.
Ah the Liar’s Party and the Union movement, where you meet a better class of criminal sociopath.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 9:49 am
Irrelevant minty.
Just as stupid as your confusion over what intimidation and perverting the course of justice are.
Dumbarse – no one was charged because Shorten (according to Pickering) and Trio have perverted the course of justice.
.
23 Aug 12 at 9:51 am
Yeah blogstrop. I suppose listening to Lawyer Dot maintain his birther-like obsession with how a half dozen Labor identities are going to jail for events 20 years ago is a very credible and useful use of pixels.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:52 am
More calls to fraudulent authoritah from our resident hysterical climate bedwetter.
Rabz
23 Aug 12 at 9:52 am
SfB,
It is always about the sex.
Dot, I find it interesting that the m0nster is trying to bait you into saying something “libellous” about Shorten, yet he makes no mention of your continued statements that Gillard is a crook and will be going to jail.
Surely if the fat ones aim is to have legal action taken against you, that is a tacit admission on his behalf that yes, the lying slapper is in fact a crook.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 9:53 am
JamesK: one scientist’s off the cuff prediction stated to the media does not “climate science” make.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:53 am
Well you’ve bang on the money with this issue so far as with so many others liar
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:54 am
What a fucking joke.
These are very serious matters.
Several ALP Ministers, including the PM are guilty of several dishonesty, tax evasion and justice offences, all of which are indictable.
You think you can stop this by making stupid off the cuff remarks on a blog?
How much is Sussex St paying you?
I suppose the SMH which we quote as a source have a “birther like obsession” as well?
.
23 Aug 12 at 9:56 am
LOL!
Liar just quoted a ‘scientific’ article with the headline:
Arctic Death Spiral: How It Favors Extreme, Prolonged Weather Events ‘Such As Drought, Flooding, Cold Spells And Heat Waves’published on leftist insanity site ‘Think Progress’You hypocritical moron liar.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:58 am
LOL, that’s all you’ve got. What about Roxon, Ludwig, Williamson, Thomson and Jackson, what about their justice? How big are you alleging the conspiracy is?
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 9:59 am
Excellent point Chunk.
Union central are probably shitting themselves about minty, as he baits us to say “libellous” things about senior ALP and Union figures.
He’s a like a teamster that’s uncovered corruption and bad work practices. They just want him to shut up.
.
23 Aug 12 at 9:59 am
The article links to scientists talking about this issue, JamesK.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:00 am
Steve gets to the nub of the Gillard fraud scandal:
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 10:00 am
Yep, a sicko. I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned anything about lesbians, but the smear is still made.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 10:00 am
On the ‘slush fund’. Even without the diverting of money to Wilson, this ‘slush fund’ and the process of filling it with money, would appear to meet the US definition of racketeering.
Tony Abbott and his team could do worse than look at the anti racketeering legislation in the US and apply it where relevant to Australia. They have legislation specific to racketeering within the labor/union movement. This indicates that the practice is not isolated, but so widespread it is international.
dianeh
23 Aug 12 at 10:01 am
Oh the link links to links fuckwit?
Oh that’s very scientific
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 10:01 am
Tim Blair reports on doctor of ‘urban studies’ Elizabeth Farrelly’s hatred of working men.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 10:01 am
Lol after days of defence this morning poor old SfB and m0nty are broken.
Now that even the Age is in on it it’s clear that Gillard is absolutely finished.
Expect to see someone not overtly connected with the unions rising on an ALP “reform” and “rooting-out-corruption” platform – whether they actually do that is another story but it’s what the ALP will sell to the public.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 10:02 am
Why?
It’s hardly been successful.
The problem is bad here but even worse in the US.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 10:03 am
Jackson is accused of criminal behaviour all of her own.
It’s a foil, but she’s part of the whole corrupt movement (not to mention the intimidation of her, possibly as a crown witness).
It’s not “all I’ve got” dickhead.
I’ve shown you documented examples of fraud, tax evasion, intimidation, unwarranted demands, perverting the course of justice, embezzlement and receive and handle stolen monies.
Now fuck off and discredit the accusations made on the SMH which I’ve quoted as a source, you pathetic turd.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:03 am
Interesting.
Bolt Update has the figures for Slater & Gordon’s political donations.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 10:04 am
An ice free arctic might reduce shipping costs of US LNG to Europe. And tree growth rates of the vast Russian and Canadian forests will go up a bit. All good news!
Forester
23 Aug 12 at 10:05 am
Sex Discrimination Commissioner calls for more gentle, kind and lesbian ADF:
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 10:06 am
Yeah, twostix: Gillard looked really broken in question time yesterday.
Abbott looked like a careless, nervous dimwit on TV last night. (Even IT agreed, more or less.)
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:07 am
Guffaw! So sfb thinks only the northern hemisphere has jet streams. What a supercilious idiot.
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 10:07 am
JamesK
In the US they manage to convict union bosses for racketeering. We cant even get ours into court to answer any charges. I think their legislation is worth a look.
dianeh
23 Aug 12 at 10:08 am
None of which have come anywhere close to being charged, Mr Dotto. Face it Dennis, you’re a failure as a lawyer and a detective.
But by all means, keep inventing new crimes to accuse people of. It’s highly entertaining.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 10:08 am
Well, that a matter of debate. Listening to the King of Bush Lawyers I don’t find particularly entertaining.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:12 am
Liar-steve™ today:
Liar-steve™ last night:
Mt response:
Andrew Bolt: 7.30 scoop: Leigh Sales hates Tony Abbott
Who to believe?
Sooo difficult.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 10:14 am
Sorry, fellas, but Gillard’s up to her nose in it.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 10:15 am
Fair point.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 10:15 am
Via Blair:
ShitFerBrains, the dole-bludger who sits at home writing a courageously anonymous blog that has no readers, defies his own stupidity and dutifully sacrifices his time for the academic grant miners whon depend on idiots like him to keep talking up their bank accounts.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 10:15 am
Guffaw! I said no such thing, Lazlo. But the interest in movements in the Northern jet stream is what is getting most research interest, and has a more direct effect on areas of large population.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:16 am
They haven’t been charged yet. So what? There is NO statute of limitations for serious indictable offences.
I’m not inventing crimes at all. I’m reading the ones off the books from WA mainly, as well as the Federal tax laws, and putting my own NSW spin on things for the dishonesty that occurred in Vic.
“Fraud, perverting the course of justice, tax evasion…invented crimes”
LOL
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:17 am
Let this mornings revelation that even Roxon touched this be the official point where it’s recognized that the “labor movement” is at best a mafiosi style “family” and at worst a sect.
I mean seriously, there’s so few lawyers in Australia that one of Gillards front bench just happened to also work on the Wilson scandal 17 years ago? And Gillards old boss who “resigned” with her now sits on the High Court after being appointed by her? And the man who wanted a royal commission into the matter now sits on the board at FWA – also appointed by her?
The corruption, the inter-marrying, the “youth camps”, the appointments, the lifelong back scratching of an inner circle elite. The total protection offered to that same elite. The total control of it’s political arm by some shadowy untouchable cabal.
There’s nothing like it anywhere else in Australian politics – not even the secretive Greens.
The ALP stands alone.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 10:17 am
Interesting.
Law firm a generous donor to federal and state ALP.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 10:18 am
Tom and Tim Blair are quoting Matt Ridley, a journalist, who is throwing babies out with the bathwater.
The superciliousness of Ridley’s article is obvious – many of the things he listed were perfectly real and serious issues, many of which were addressing by serious Right wing politicians.
Such politicians are harder to find now.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:20 am
So you’re saying she’s not going to be replaced?
That means with 100% certainty she is.
Tell me anti-oracle what is the timeframe that you think she won’t be replaced in? Just so that I know the date of when it’s coming with certainty.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 10:20 am
I worked as an employed solicitor with a Labor / union law firm in the late 1990′s and in the course of acting for a major union client uncovered by chance what can only be described as a slush fund. Chief item was a used chequebook with no details recorded on the cheque butts.
dragnet
23 Aug 12 at 10:22 am
Remember when I said Roxon was unfit to be Attorney General and I was reprimanded for being too harsh?
I said she had a soft background and a weak education. I never knew she covered up Gillard’s embezzlement and fraud.
It’s not just the Union crap, plug in the Heiner affair and half of the ALP MPs and judges in Australia will probably go to gaol.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:22 am
Let’s all remember that up until just last week SfB was hysterically and confidently denouncing this as a “non story” that nobody would ever care about or run.
Now he’s made a strategic retreat to “it’s not going to finish her”.
Quite the political seer aren’t you SfB?
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 10:23 am
There is a statute of limitations on libel, however. So you’ve got to wait three years for the danger to pass. Good luck with that.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 10:24 am
Too big to fail, dot.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 10:24 am
Remember people, accoring to SoB will be in full swing this time next year, or maybe it won’t…
…or maybe it will by 2015, or maybe it won’t…
He’s a very believable fellow that man Steve from Brisbane.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:25 am
candy
sfb
Oh yes you did..
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 10:25 am
Someone asked how far do we think the corruption in the unions and the ALP goes. I suspect it reaches every nook and cranny of the labour movement. I know some decent people who are rusted onto the ALP, thanks to the delinquency of the MSM and the human capacity for selective vision they have stood by without doing anything about it for decades. Fair enough in a way, what chance do isolated voices have to fix anything in a movement that is so tribal even among the educated and intellectual, and so vicious in the lower reaches where it connects with the criminal underworld.
Poor Old Rafe
23 Aug 12 at 10:25 am
What a fitting end to that Irma Greese wannabe. A long stint in HM Prison Tarrengower.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:26 am
There was a hell of a lot more interest in Prince Harry nuding up than on what Gillard did 20 years ago on breakfast TV this morning, twostix.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:26 am
Let’s all remember that up until just last week SfB was hysterically and confidently denouncing this as a “non story” that nobody would ever care about or run.
LOL.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 10:26 am
Oh I’m shitting myself, Minty.
The union movement will love it if one of their own defends themselves from accusations other have made, and they have to air their dirty laundry so Holy Billy gets to clear himself.
I’m guessing the chances of that are as high as Gillard’s not guilty verdict in an upcoming fraud case.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:27 am
Lazlo, you are an idiot. You inferred something without evidence, and are too stupid to be corrected.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:28 am
…and today the prediction about Artic Ice…which may be at its lowest level, but maybe it won’t…
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:28 am
Is there any lawyer in the country who hasn’t come across ALP / union corruption in the course of their work?
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 10:29 am
Err, and what did Newspoll show on Tuesday?
Three percent – that is all that is in this government being returned.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:29 am
I’ve seen some pretty dodgy (cough cough) consultancy for the union movement from a firm which is too heavily tied in with the NSW ALP’s main donors.
Literally, cash for comment.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:30 am
I think Ms Gillard is safe in her position unless she is charged by the police for something, and that seems terribly unlikely, however I know absolutely zilch about legal stuff.
There won’t be any government investigation because Ms Gillard and p. Howes won’t let that happen.
And who would go to the police and press charges about the prime minister’s dicey doings? How does that work?
candy
23 Aug 12 at 10:31 am
Too right Ellen, it seems like the current generation of the Australian Brahman class all have a stake in making sure this is surpressed (which like Justice Murphy & others extends into the judiciary).
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:31 am
Australia’s Tammany Hall. I remember Labor cheerleaders insisting it was a “NSW problem only” not so long ago. Obama doing the best Tammany impersonation in the U.S. since its formal demise, btw.
Ivan Denisovich
23 Aug 12 at 10:32 am
Wow, and people like this were allowed to get into the very highest positions in the Trade Union Movement?
It is clear Australia desperately needs a royal commission with terms of reference set by the incoming Abbott government to address the serious concern of both corruption and other matters by senior Trade Union leadership and their associates!
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:34 am
HAHAHA it was on Sunrise.
Last week you said it would never be run anywhere.
Then it was run in The Australian and you said it would never be run anywhere else.
Then it was run at the top of news.com.au and you went silent.
And now…it’s made it to that bastion of serious political debate Sunrise.
A complicated 17 year old story of legalese getting air time on Sunrise.
LOL
“Non story”
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 10:34 am
Oh my God.
ALP Primary votes are on 35% and you are declaring victory?
Fuck me. Let’s see what happens when people’s power bills come in and Gillard is escorted out of canberra in shackles.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:34 am
Oh noes! Da IPA!!!11!
Proud to say I help support them.
Fleeced
23 Aug 12 at 10:35 am
Lol Twostix I suppose I did make a fairly redundant comment!
dragnet
23 Aug 12 at 10:36 am
Bigger fool you, Fleeced. Helps keeps the board room in cigars and red wine, I guess.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:37 am
Ah Steve you cocksucker.
Thommo uses the union credit card funded by janitors and orderlies on $200k of hookers and $100k of cash withdrawals, and you’ve got to say is “da IPA take your money and spend it in da boardroom”
You fucking turkey.
Remember Williamson was caught RED HANDED by the NSW fraud squad trying to destroy and conceal documents.
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:39 am
This is a non issue. It was noted by Philip Ruddock (former Australian AG) that the Federal AG has the right to override Statute of Limitation on any matter they choose.
He used this power while in the position during the Howard government to pursue some matters the Labor Party thought they could hush up.
Thus, all these matters can and will be addressed by the relevant Minister in the incoming Abbott government.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:39 am
Qantas cancels $8.5bn plane order. Fairfax loses $2.7bn.
How’s the budget looking Wayne? Maybe you could whack a levy on union slush funds?
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 10:40 am
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 10:41 am
The Australian economy is suffering seriously due to an overvalued dollar, IT. This is the issue that needs thinking about, as Colebatch has argued.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:42 am
The AUD would be lower if the government weren’t borrowing so much, Steve.
Fleeced
23 Aug 12 at 10:47 am
Has anyone seen, or got a copy of the bank statements of the reform organisation?
It would be nice to see who paid in, and the disbursements of the slush fund.
Winston SMITH
23 Aug 12 at 10:48 am
“As more of this story comes to light my concern is that the whole thing is ‘too big to fail’. Too many people in high places, with way too much to lose. Makes a cover-up all the more important, desperate and necessary.”
Ellen of Tasmania, that’s what got me about Pickering’s rather cheeky, “Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.“, and maybe not too cryptic post.
SIT! SPEAK! SHUT UP! DROP! BEG!
It’s like watching the Kennel Master prepare the pack for a visit from The Lord of The Manor, before they decide on the final cull.
And then there’s that constant worry of 17 years worth of long ago forgotten, “former partners, colleagues and associates“, and countless others who could never forget crossing paths with them.
What mementos did they keep?
Where have they been?
Who have they seen?
Where are they now?…
“ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!” “DO NOT MAKE ANY STATEMENTS!”
ROLL OVER! PLAY DEAD!
FETCH! GOOD DOG! …and the bad dogs and mongrel curs, well, it’s a one way hunting trip for them…
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 10:49 am
Pure speculation. No peer reviewed literature supports such causation. Typical of the junk science that sfb and stupid warmists admire.
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 10:49 am
Wow, Bolta has link to a SMH article in 1996 (remember when they did real journalism) with some extra facts that are very interesting!!!!
Who did Phil Coorey in the SMH today note did the conveyancing on that transaction?
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:49 am
It’s in the Cambridge/Ludwig affidavit top third of the Monday forum
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 10:50 am
That article indicates the person processing the cheque for the settlement of the property in Fitzroy had a cheque with the AWU Workplace Association.
BAZINGA!
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:50 am
John Comnenus, seeing how far these tentacles of corruption reach, I am beginning to wonder if there is anyone who could be trusted to run a Royal Commission into union corruption. Can you think of anyone who is untainted?
Winston SMITH
23 Aug 12 at 10:54 am
Wow, according to minty Hutz, Bolta is going to get sued by Shorten as well.
Will Shorten wear a clown suit, minty?
.
23 Aug 12 at 10:54 am
Lazlo, you are completely wrong.
There has even been a paper co-authored by skeptic hero Judith Curry:
The increasing widely held view – as noted in several peer reviewed papers – is that reduced Arctic ice induced jet stream changes can mean sudden big dumps of snow, as well as blocking patterns keeping heat waves in place.
Just admit it – you don’t know what you are talking about.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:56 am
Link for Lazlo.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:57 am
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 10:58 am
Took a while to get hold of the Gambino Family too.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 10:59 am
If Phil Coorey wrote that in a piece in the SMH, I have to believe it is true as Phil would never spin the truth, but if it is…OMG!
Token
23 Aug 12 at 10:59 am
RATFLMAO
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 11:04 am
It’s not over valued at all. The US dollar and the Euro just aint worth shit any more.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:05 am
Yes, that’s right.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 11:09 am
LOL
SoB, if you read (and understood) those articles on Say’s Law and similar topics Steve Kates & Rafe posts, you wouldn’t post such monumentally stupid statements on what is fundementally an economics blog.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 11:09 am
Teaching Shitfer economics would be like teaching a Gorilla the gentle art of love making.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:11 am
IT, Whinging Aussies like you (I’m sure you have whinging pom genes in you) of course help hurt the economy by not taking your holidays here.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:11 am
Don’t worry GOPers, it’s not a legitimate storm.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 11:12 am
Yep – can’t believe he went on the program knowing he would be asked about BHP and hadn’t even bothered to read the statement released by BHP as to why they were cancelling the project.
And why is Abbott so reticent about publicly stating even just one question or allegation about what Gillard did 17 years ago? Trying to keep some distance and deniability in case it all blows up like UteGate?
Chris
23 Aug 12 at 11:13 am
Oh yes. I getting criticism from the followers of the economist who was warning of stagflation here and on Andrew Bolt a year ago.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:13 am
Speaking of economics, did you hear Doug Cameron say on Q&A that he was reading Krugman and his wife was reading 50 Shades Of Grey?
Sounded like the Shitfer household.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:13 am
This is a Labor Party fight, the Libs are not invited.
Let’s recap again for the slow kids. Labor member McClelland (and former Gillard government AG) read a statement in June about the matter that started the events rolling.
Ian Cambridge (former AWU top official & judge) has a statement on the record which he chooses not to retract demanding a royal commission.
Next…
Token
23 Aug 12 at 11:16 am
Because he knows the three-second grab would be used in news reports the next day, and he wants to keep his message on the carbon tax instead. But he failed anyway.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 11:16 am
A nice piece of meteorological research sfb, proper science. Note that it is about influences on snowfall (it’s in the title). There is nothing about heatwaves. You are drawing that inference for dramatic alarmist effect.
Oh, and there is nothing in the paper about CO2. Shame about that..
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 11:17 am
Possibly the most monumentally stupid thing I’ve read here today. But I won’t judge just yet. There’s better to come. Watch.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 11:17 am
So funny to read. In three days this story has gone from being the ravings of a nutty cartoonist to the main story on across all media.
And, so the defense, ‘nothing to see here’ line is quietly shelved, we’re all supposed to start arguing about Arctic sea ice extent.
The Klaxon has gone off, and the Labor faithful are everywhere – posting, smearing, obfuscating, anything to try and knock this story back. But it’s turning into a feeding frenzy. The stopper cannot be put back in. There are too many people to sue, too many people to threaten. Editors want the scoop. They know it sells papers and spikes ratings.
Wilson is negotiating a deal to spill all. Probably on 60 minutes, at the least on Current Affair. Imagine the ratings!
The stupid Labor operatives are now turning their guns on Blewitt. He’s a sleazeball. A low life. He even hates the carbon tax!
They fail to realise that this is a person Julia Gillard not only trusted to be the head of her sham association, but she also lent him the money to buy the Kerr st house, obviously with no credit checks. But that’s OK, because Julia knew (and I quote)
So by all means, people, tear Blewitt a new one. He’s a former union official, demonstrably corrupt, who Julia trusted enough to form an association and issue a mortgage with no credit checks. Yes, that’s a really sound line of attack.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:17 am
Do you understand why what you said is so fundementally stupid?
Why be a tool and slag off at Kates on his own turf then?
It proves you are just small minded and petty.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 11:18 am
Oh I’m sorry but I like my holidays to be full of fun, frivolity and excitement. Filling out forms in triplicate before I can have a shit after drinking 2 beers than cost me $30 served by a surly whippersnapper who was updating his Facebook while taking my order is not my bag.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:18 am
“And why is Abbott so reticent about publicly stating even just one question or allegation about what Gillard did 17 years ago?”
bedause it’s about Ms Gillard – a woman – and Coalition have to be oh so careful about what they say about a woman. The ALP and some journalists take it very badly and need to protect her.
candy
23 Aug 12 at 11:20 am
Next instalment for Bolta, the WA government has to act now as it looks like the paper trail indicates public money is linked to the pot of money which Gillard referred to as a “Slush Fund”:
Hey IT, do you think that impressive Premier you have over there will pull his finger out over this?
Token
23 Aug 12 at 11:24 am
Why would anyone holiday in Australia? It’s overpriced and the service is universally poor. The good parts of the country you’re not allowed to touch, and good luck in finding a hotel on a waterfront with it’s own beach.
I’m universally disappointed every time I try and enjoy travel in Australia.
The only holidays in Australia worth having is where you tow your accomodation, entertainment and supplies with you, as far away as possible from red tape and crappy service.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:24 am
I think this is a job for a Vic or WA state attorney general.
If WA govt money is proven to have been diverted into the slush fund via Thiess, then that is a legitimate line of enquiry.
Don’t know who the WA attorney general is, but probably a politically good line of enquiry to start. Nobody can protest a state government looking into if taxpayer money was used for fraudulent purposes.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:28 am
The interview we all wanted to see
jules
23 Aug 12 at 11:28 am
Lazlo, this paper referred to all extreme weather in lower latitudes being linked to reduced Arctic ice.
This was available via the first link I posted, but as usual, you are too lazy to read.
You are happy to stew in your own laziness and ignorance, like many here.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:29 am
So fucking what? The weather’s changing. You have to prove that we were the major reason it changed. You can’t. There’s no causational link because they’re not even looking for it. They’re inventing it.
The climate industry are like east African pirates holding the civilised world to ransom, with the help of big government fanboys like you, who live off our money, you fucking dumb weasel.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 11:30 am
Obama’s America:
‘Fiscal Cliff’ Has Many Perils
CBO Warns of Recession, or More Big Deficits, Depending on Congressional Action
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 11:31 am
I’ll give him a buzz. We are distantly related.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:31 am
Legitimate murder…
Video emerges of Senator Obama supporting the killing of children.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 11:31 am
Because of two new egregious taxes, an artificially high exchange rate caused by excessive Government borrowing and pre Keating industrial laws, fuckwit.
The same scenario didn’t exist before these corrupt, inept, commie turds were in power.
Ooh yes a three second sound bite.
Also, a two year minimum in Bandyup.
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:32 am
Boy, the carbon dioxide tax is going well.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 11:32 am
You are ignorant, stupid and offensive all rolled up into one bitter ball, and demonstration of why the Right is poisoned at the moment.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:33 am
You’re sounding very bitter and shrill today, SFB.
What’s wrong? Is your Dear Leader in trouble? Oooooh.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 11:35 am
No Steve, he’s absolutely correct, Mann is basically another left wing fraudster who will lose his defamation case and is lucky he isn’t in gaol for bilking public monies.
You are a festering pustule of the ALP.
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:35 am
There you go Stevie, fixed it for ya……..
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 11:35 am
Translation : I have no answer, so I will insult you.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:35 am
pot kettle
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 11:36 am
Sure, good researchers are studying possible influences on blocking events, including solar cycles and the AMO.
Still nothing to show CO2 causation though…
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 11:37 am
Why do you think they are worth so much money, Julia?
Because they make sacrifices for thrift and make smart, long term decisions in equities markets, like Warren Buffet?
Or is it because they are systemically corrupt and screw their members and poor unfortunate ransomed superannuation beneficiaries legally and illegally?
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:38 am
Just keep talking, you low-rent government bumboy.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 11:39 am
Here’s the deal.
Everytime minty and Shitfer bring up glowball warmening or how Abbot wants to kill women, I bring up the Heiner affair.
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:39 am
Gab, as I do with you, I start to get annoyed when I say something about climate with a link to back it up, get told it’s wrong and there is no peer reviewed paper, point them to peer reviewed papers (available through my first link), and then still get told this is all rubbish.
It shows extreme laziness and ideological commitment against reading evidence and believing in mainstream science.
It shows the Right is poisoned at the moment.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:40 am
Heiner is ever more “birther” than your current fantasies, dot.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:41 am
No one gives a fuck about climate change, you stupid lesbian eunuch. It’s the hypercolour t-shirt of causes.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:42 am
I cannot believe this is the PM office response:
After realising the ‘I was young and naive’ excuse no longer carries the day, now she’s blaming Blewitt.
So as a solicitor, she drafts and prepares the association, and now she is blaming her client.
They’re not even trying anymore. What a feeble defense.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:42 am
Abbott sure is under pressure regarding the ice shelf at the moment.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 11:43 am
Where is the evidence for CO2 causation?
Hint: belief is not the same as evidence.
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 11:44 am
I wonder who wrote this association rule – Blewitt or Gillard?
Oh, but it’s his fault because he signed it.
Would anyone here hire Gillard to even run their tea trolley?
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:44 am
Aha, no.
A kid was abused and the incident was covered up.
Rudd, Bryce and several other key QLD ALP figures are involved.
Wrong again, Steve.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/heiner-affair-set-for-another-examination-after-premier-campbell-newman-confirmed-the-commission-of-inquiry-into-child-protection-could-include-re-examination-of-issues/story-e6freoof-1226412195427
Heiner Affair set for another examination after Premier Campbell Newman confirmed the Commission of Inquiry into child protection could include re-examination of issues
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:45 am
This post at Bolts site has a photo of the cheque that was made out to S&G.
Is it just me, or does the handwriting look very feminine, hardly the sort of handwriting that one would expect from rough and tumble union types such as Blewitt and Wilson
It would be an interesting exercise if a handwriting expert was to have a look at it.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 11:46 am
About the same percentage of Australian adults use tobacco as belong to unions. One of these activities provides its users with a feeling of well being and comfort in their time of need and fills Treasury’s coffers with billions of dollars per annum. The other is cancerous tumour eating at the fabric of our nation costing us billions in lost productivity.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:47 am
She is blaming her client for facilitating him to commit a crime.
Her defence to conspiracy to commit fraud is that she is a drooling imbecile at just above retarded IQ figures, because a partner at a law firm would not be so stupid, gullible or reckless.
Which is countermanded by her enjoyment of the property paid for with stolen monies – which no doubt can be cast that she became a guilty party at that point.
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:48 am
One thing is for sure, Bolt is no longer scared about prosecution or getting sacked.
Re the handwriting, no expert, but that looks like the writing of someone who is left handed.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:50 am
When did she know it was a slush fund?
Did she know at the start when she set-up the articles of association that it’s intended purpose was not as described on the document she drafted?
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 11:51 am
Smith was on the cheque issue yesterday
http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/08/22/julia-gillard-caught-lying-on-the-public-record-in-2007-about-the-bruce-wilson-awu-fraud-scandal/
Has anyone seen the handwriting on that form? Is it the same?
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:52 am
I can’t wait til your kid starts going to school, and at university when the study of the bizarre social movement of climate change denialism of the early 21st century will be a subject. He can bring you in for group study of how you were so stupid and sure of yourself.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 11:52 am
I’m really looking forward to the perp walk. I hope the coppers do that thing were they gently push her head down so she doesn’t scone it on the car door. They can tell her to bend like she has a union official in front of her.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:53 am
This is way worse than Mr Bean’s work on Whistler’s Mother…
Spanish pensioner botches fresco restoration.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 11:54 am
Has this question been asked?
The accounts being exposed as a sham she reckons she was duped into setting up, has Gillard paid any money back to the union members? Or even assisted to recover any?
If not, why the fuck not?
harrys on the boat
23 Aug 12 at 11:54 am
Home school, no uni.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 11:54 am
The three major television networks — NBC, ABC and CBS — are not airing prime-time coverage of the RNC
If only the RNC had faux Greek columns…..
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 11:55 am
Yes. Read the transcript :
She knew what the purpose was right from the start. Wilson double-crossed her, is the most likely scenario, but she knew it was no workplace reform association. Besides, from what I’ve read, it was set up illegally anyway, with only 2 members instaed of 5. And she wrote the rules to say that the members couldn’t benefit apart from the stated aims.
So she knew it was a sham association right from the word go.
And now she’s trying to point the finger at Blewitt. Shameless.
As I’ve said, deception, deceit and lying are part of her core personality. She appears to have no remorse and will throw anyone under the bus to save her hide – this is a lifetime of practice in lying and being deceptive.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:56 am
That Behold the Man botch…we shouldn’t laugh but…ah Jesus Christ!
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:57 am
W.A. Inc.: Why Didn’t We Hear The Alarm Bells?
Bevan Lawrence
Conclusion
I am concerned that so far few reforms have been implemented which would effectively prevent the abuse of executive power seen in the ’80s from recurring. I believe that our adapted Westminster system visits enormous power upon the Premier and, in the federal sphere, upon the Prime Minister. I believe that the people of Australia should look carefully at curtailing not only the power of the Executive in each State, but also the power of the federal Executive and the Prime Minister. This power continues to grow largely unchecked.
Copyright 1994 by The Samuel Griffith Society. All rights reserved.
So that was then; ’80′s, ’90′s, NAUGHTIES…and what’s that, slowly drifting in on stevie’s Ice Shelf?…a dish of…
There have been continuing calls for Ms Gillard to explain how she may have participated in the deception of the WA Corporate Affairs …
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 11:59 am
Steve, although I am a relatively new visitor to this blog, I think that I would be correct in my assumption that it is primarily concerned with things economic and libertarian. This being the case, why don’t you and your stupid climate change religious zealots FUCK OFF to somewhere that gives a shit, somewhere like The Drum, JoNova or WUWT?
The adults here are actually interested in watching history happen, the distinct possibility that a sitting (although unelected) PM will be removed from office and end up in the other big house.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 12:01 pm
also defined as pathological lying, somewhere in the DSM-IV.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:01 pm
I agree with the Sam Griffiths society a lot, even though I’m a republican.
The PM should have their powers to appoint officials vetted just like the US President’s, requiring Senate confirmation.
The SMH article is a crock.
She isn’t liable for a $500 fine which has been extinguished. She conspired to commit fraud.
.
23 Aug 12 at 12:03 pm
Well said.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 12:03 pm
I love the smh headline ‘slush fund may come back to haunt Julia Gillard’
Bit late, fellas:
‘slush fund has come back to haunt Julia Gillard’
I know they’re trying to spin it as some type of youthful indescretion, but we’re not talking about a nude romp in the MGM grand here, we’re talking about someone systematically and knowingly setting up fraudulent associations. It’s not a youthful indescretion, it’s a deliberate action not in accordance with the law.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 12:03 pm
Gillard lies as easily and as freely as I down cups of coffee.
dover_beach
23 Aug 12 at 12:06 pm
The impressive aspect of liar-steve™ is his persistent assiduous attention to avoiding ever inadvertently getting something right on occasion.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:09 pm
That would be terrible. I’m glad that’s one area in which we decided to maintain the Westminster tradition.
m0nty
23 Aug 12 at 12:10 pm
Any sensible person would throw Mann under the bus in a heartbeat, the man won’t have a penny after he finishes the action with his legal actions.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 12:11 pm
It’s Tweedledum to liar’s Tweedledee
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 12:11 pm
Bolta now has an image of the magic cheque paid by the AWU Workplace Association to pay for the Fitzroy property.
Who did Phil Coorey say did the conveyancing on this matter (I phrase it that way in case Phil is wrong).
Token
23 Aug 12 at 12:12 pm
Yes, and libertarians are poisoning the Right of politics with their commitment to simplistic crank economic ideas that are more about ideology than economic evidence (or indeed, common sense.)
Libertarian small government types are also anti-science and are busy conning themselves that they aren’t.
You need to be told. Repeatedly.
But it is true, I have to do something else for a while.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 12:14 pm
SoB, you are better than this.
The rape of that girl while in government custody and the actions of the QLD government to cover up the matter is a stain on public administrations across the country.
Any decent person would want to ensure the matter and the people involved are dealt with to ensure all government officials in all juristictions are made aware so no other child suffers again like that again.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 12:16 pm
Even CL isn’t on side with you on the Heiner matter, Token.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 12:18 pm
Gillard is still under a cloud and he can’t even win a climate argument, but I think his troubles are somewhat deeper. I think he’s about to be replaced by the Liar’s party with a cheaper bot.
Just as unintelligible, but more interesting.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 12:18 pm
Nor Sinclair, if I recall correctly.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 12:18 pm
If you wind up Steve anymore he might start up with the racist crap
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 12:18 pm
I would have thought that constant questioning ie skepticism, is in fact the very basis of science and the scientific method.
On the other hand, basing theories on consensus would be the very definition of anti-science.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 12:18 pm
Run along then. Others want to discuss how far the corruption in the unions and ALP runs. Is it all the way down, or just a contaminated branch?
Ha! who am I kidding. S&G extended credit to a bagman because one of the partners knew he was an ex union boss, so assumed he’d done the natural thing and fleeced the union. Anyone who moved from one union to the other was undoubtedly rich enough to get their mates to buy houses on their behalf.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 12:19 pm
no he is not. That’s a level he’s comfortable with – anything, no matter if it involves a rape & cover-up – anything to defend his Dear Leader. Anything.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:19 pm
It’s a funny old day when an ALP supporter would rather talk about the Heiner affair than what is currently on all front pages.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 12:20 pm
Chunkwart, what goes on here and at places like WUWT is “fake skepticism”. It is skepticism pointed in one direction only.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 12:21 pm
Huck, Steve is the resident “wrongologist”.
He serves two important purposes here:
1. Any and every statement or proclamation he makes will shortly thereafter be proven false. Whether it’s because he in particular made the proclamation, that the universe / god whoever then ensures that the opposite will happen, or whether he just has a knack for being wrong all the time, is up for debate. What is not up for debate is that he is wrong often enough that he makes a great political weather vane where whatever side of the argument he takes, that side will lose, always.
2. He is a vital conduit into the extraordinary world of leftist dementia. It’s important to always remain exposed to the inner machinations of the average leftist’s mind.
3. The place is generally less lively without him.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 12:21 pm
Gab, so you’re a Heiner birther too? Congratulations. Makes me think all the less of you.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 12:22 pm
Yes, he’s the original useful idiot.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:23 pm
Anyway, carry on.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 12:23 pm
Three purposes even.
Aren’t you lucky steve?
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 12:23 pm
Agree, I retract that statement based upon further evidence.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 12:25 pm
If you have something to do then fuck off and do it!
Either that or you have already done it and wiped up the evidence…
Old Fridgie
23 Aug 12 at 12:25 pm
What can I say? I’m crushed I tells ya.
.
.
Okay, I’m over it.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 12:27 pm
How the plonk can’t his Steve bloke get off defending the actions of people who covered up the rapeof a young child?
Your a sick bastard. I wish the worst upon you
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 12:27 pm
3. The place is generally less boring
livelywithout him.ftfy
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 12:37 pm
I have done a quick handwriting analysis of the AWU cheque on my Blog cash4.it – looks like it could be Julias handwriting to me…
Feel free to copy and paste to the Cat and all over the internet.
http://www.cash4.it
Max
23 Aug 12 at 12:37 pm
If you look at the cheque on the Bolt site and compare it to Smith’s snippets of handwriting you can see a pretty strong similarity between the cheque and the writing in the top right hand picture in the montage. But it is the writing in the address line on top of Gillard’s writing. Note that in the cheque the ‘i’ is a lower case ‘i’ even though all the other letters are upper case and it is dotted. In Gillard’s writing she doesn’t dot her ‘i’. But whoever wrote the address in above the line looks like they have the same left slant writing, very straight W and dotted ‘i’. Who wrote the address in?
John Comnenus
23 Aug 12 at 12:40 pm
Thanks John – I have put them in an image together – the similarities are there – although the Cheque is all in uppercase
Max
23 Aug 12 at 12:46 pm
Max, looks to me like it is not Julia’s handwriting. Look at the capital A’s for a start. Totally different.
dianeh
23 Aug 12 at 12:49 pm
Ok, Conroy now admits Gillard set up the AWU Workplace Association, and agrees on her exit interview she said it was used for purposes in contravention to the terms she stated when the entity was set up…but he thinks that’s ok:
Looks like he was not in parliament. This could be a problem for the former union rep.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 12:50 pm
An expert would need to analyse the handwriting.
Curious that the cheque has no signatures.
Have they been redacted ?
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 12:53 pm
@token : I was wondering when someone from the ALP ranks would come out and state the obvious – yes, she did something wrong.
Now it’s the ‘oh, but that’s a lesser crime’ excuse.
The pertinent question from a reporter ‘so you agree that the Prime Minister has done something wrong, then?’
Conroy seems a strange choice for the messenger. What are the ALP leader bettting markets doing?
brc
23 Aug 12 at 12:55 pm
Gillard on ABC
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 12:58 pm
“The SMH article is a crock.”
Yes dot, but I see it like “breaking in a Whores“, using the Jeffrey Method; you ease off a little, before their fear becomes wild, blind, murderous panic. Next thing you know, you have a biddable mount, that can take you where the wild bush horses go, and you round up the whole mob.
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 1:00 pm
Not so strange, he and Shorten are old hands as doing the dirty work for the unions. Reference their work on Kathy Jackson…
When Phil Gude read documents into the Victorian Hansard in ’96 there were references to Shorten & Conroy there as well.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:01 pm
Oh yes, there’s more than one reference to Gregor Ivan “sticky fingers” Conroy in the VicHansard.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:05 pm
Yes, that’s why I thought it was a strange choice. Because he is implicated. I would have thought someone else would be used, someone clean. Albanese hasn’t been mentioned at all, and he likes to run interference for the leader.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 1:05 pm
No doubt at all the cheque signature was redacted.
I just love how lawyers hoard all the documentation. All those dusty files, sitting around with unexploded ordnance in them.
Who would have thought an exit interview transcript for a junior partner would be worth hanging onto? That one day you could use that to bring down a PM.
He who reads the rules on the inside of the box and keeps all the paperwork wins.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 1:08 pm
Albo is off crying about his party somewhere.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 1:08 pm
Have chosen the theme music for Underbelly: Gillard.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:11 pm
Good point.
I think Conroy has acted as he thinks he can get away with it…again. I note he did not make the statement in parliament as it may yet be proven that he said something he knew was not true.
I’m calling the cliche that is the ALP/Trade Union/Ambulance Chasing Law Firms/Members of Such in the Judiciary the Australian Brahman class as the Thomson/Slipper/Slapper affais prove they believe they untouchable as a group.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:12 pm
Lol yes – I cant believe they kept the tape from 17 years ago
Max
23 Aug 12 at 1:12 pm
It’s not Gillard’s handwriting on the cheque, if it was that would surely have already been mentioned by Michael Smith. Also if you look at the comparisons Ben Fordham provides the top right image has what appears to be Blewitt’s address written in the same writing-style the cheque is in, and then underneath that is Gillard’s handwriting, which is quite different (and dare I say, looks not much different from the crude print of a 16 year old – excuse the ‘hyperbowl’).
Andreas
23 Aug 12 at 1:13 pm
Listen to the 2GB discussion with Ben Fordham. He cleaerly states his handwriting expert thinks it is Gillard. As you guys note, she may not have written everything on that page.
I’d like to see from Vic gov records who was the registered solicitor who did the conveyancing for the Fitzroy property. That person would have to see the deposit cheque that Bolta has linked to.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:16 pm
Someone said above in this thread that Gillard did the conveyancing
Max
23 Aug 12 at 1:18 pm
Token, the Heiner affair had in its origins, a blue between two different unions protecting senior members from the enquiry.
Then the pollies got pulled in – especially Rudd as CoS.
Winston SMITH
23 Aug 12 at 1:19 pm
If she says 17 years ago once more i think I will self harm
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 1:26 pm
Was that not the application to set up the association rather than the cheque Token?
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 1:27 pm
She started it 20 years ago…she got caught out 17 years ago.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:28 pm
♪♪♪Satan Your Kingdom Must Come Down♪♪♪
LOL
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 1:31 pm
Gillard obfuscating about her exit interview 17 years ago, on tv.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:31 pm
Winston, interesting how its all linked. No wonder SoB gets the vapours when it is mentioned.
***************
Max, it was Phil Coorey who stated in his article today Gillard did the conveyancing – I have not seen that statement verified elsewhere so I’m being careful. That said, it still is on the SMH website.
***************
JamesK, I’ll need to listen again, you may be correct.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:31 pm
Is There is some pathological reason why she keeps referring to 17 bloody years ago?
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 1:32 pm
Callinan.
It’s got to be him.
dd
23 Aug 12 at 1:34 pm
Well that’s when she was caught out and also it reinforces that “it was a long time ago therefore nothing to see here, move along now”.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:34 pm
Gillard acting very cocky on the teev answering questions.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:35 pm
Interesting, from Gillard’s press conference at SMH:
She’s made the statement in public. Let’s see what the documents reveal on whether that is true.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:37 pm
I wish they’d ask her how many married “boyfriends” she has had.
candy
23 Aug 12 at 1:37 pm
Wish somone would ask her
“Is it wrong to declare an entity is for “workplace reform” when in full knowledge that it is a slush fund?
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:38 pm
SMH reporting Gillard on teev today as follows.
Coorey’s identification of who did the conveyancing (and who you would think handled the cheque) is still here
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 1:41 pm
LOL
apparently people who criticize Gillard are misogynists.
Such a shame she isn’t black too as she could also use the racist angle.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:42 pm
Agreed DD. There aren’t many.
John Comnenus
23 Aug 12 at 1:42 pm
Is it misogynistic to call her a lying slut?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 1:44 pm
Apparently the “eccentric lunar right tea party” are ruining this vile beasts life.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 1:46 pm
Useless fucking hacks
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 1:47 pm
Yep it sure is, which is why I always refer to her as the Lying Slapper.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 1:47 pm
I wonder if there are any News Ltd journos at the presser or just all Fairfax journos?
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 1:48 pm
And just like the mafia they periodically get rid of those who draw too much unwelcome attention to this state of affairs.
Viva
23 Aug 12 at 1:49 pm
Huck,
I once met Julia Gillard and she told me there is no ‘I’ in team. I responded by saying that might be so, but there is a ‘U’ in C#NT.
Sarc
John Comnenus
23 Aug 12 at 1:49 pm
Yes, and it looks like someone from the Oz has the balls to front her:
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:50 pm
Someone should interview the young children from the marriages she has destroyed – the’d be grown up now. I wonder how they feel towards the PM
Max
23 Aug 12 at 1:50 pm
from Wiki
from The Free Dictionary
Based on those definitions and her history with married fathers,I am comfortable with calling her a lying slut.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 1:52 pm
Huck – settle down you’re not helping.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 1:55 pm
Mark that down, and note the fact it is a sexist conspiracy plot from Area 52 in Roswell.
M0nty & SoB will be reading that from the talking points sheet issued after they have been issued to all relevant parties after this conference is complete.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 1:56 pm
Yea huck… relax and take a deep breath. If you’re feeling pissed about something, you can always take it out of Steve Pinata. We always do.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 1:56 pm
tweets from Latika Bourke
It woz Blewitt wot done it, Guv’nor.
I think this is a lie – I’d have to check the Smith material, but I’m sure she wrote the rules.
Another lie. In the transcript she says she can’t be certain.
Another lie. The transcript shows different. Press reports from the time show she left in October 95.
What a howler! Why not discussed with other partners? How many other associations created without files?
Finally we get some truth. But why was it called ‘the workplace reform assocation’.
She really is pathological.
How can the party stand behind her. She finally deigns to answer some questions.
I note that her language about Pickering mirrors sfb’s language to the letter (bankrupt/’nut-job’) etc. Clearly reading from the same talking points, as if there were any question.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 1:57 pm
I would have added “ugly” to it, Token.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 1:58 pm
The fact he is correct and can back it up has nothing to do with it.
Follow up question : would you sue him if he had the money?
Brazen liar. No wonder liar-steve loves her so much.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 1:59 pm
It’s humorous she kept harping at the Australian when both the Age and the SMH have actually made worse allegations.
No doubt though she will have her finkelsteinian revenge. She’s vowed to do it.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm
BRC – perhaps that was part of “model” rules provided under the enabling legislation for incorporation of associations.
Adopting the “model” rules completely is the quickest way to obtain incorporation, and you would expect a clause like that to appear in the “model” rules.
If that is the case (as I suspect), then JG did not actually “write” the particular rule.
Kaboom
23 Aug 12 at 2:01 pm
Pickering’s Facebook page is down as well now.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 2:01 pm
LOL. The first leader in political history whose defence is ‘no no – it was a dodgy slush fund, not a trust fund.’
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:03 pm
If they tie that cheque to her doing the conveyancing, that is a major, major problem for her now.
Shades of ‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman’ and ‘I am not a crook’.
By the way the Australian and others are still punching, I’d say they are sitting on more than just the exit interview transcript. They have a photocopy of the friggen cheque, FFS. How much more do they have?
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:03 pm
Fixed for you Steve:
Mark that down, and note the fact it is an ugly sexist conspiracy plot from Area 52 in Roswell.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 2:04 pm
And the useless fucking hacks just let her BS all the way without question, now, as she stated, she will never answer another question about these events.
Did she know Wilson was married; did she have sexual relations etc etc
Opportunity squandered
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 2:04 pm
They have lots more, brc. Lots.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:04 pm
I am willing to bet that she will, maybe not the stenographers in the Love media, but who trusts them to do anything more than provide coverage.
Anyone following up Cambridge’s request for a RC will need to talk to her.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 2:07 pm
The whole ‘I knew nothing about the association once it was created’ is a red rag to a bull.
Here’s an excerpt from the Smith/Jones interview:
Quite apart from ‘Town Mode’, we have the cheque for the house purchase coming through the firm, the firm doing not only the conveyancing, but also arranging a mortgage. These things were all done pro-bono. All that has to happen now is for one of the ex-S&G partners to say that she handled the house purchase – either conveyancing, or mortgage, or both – and she has been caught lying, red handed. Not 17 years ago, but 17 minutes ago.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:08 pm
Sacked, dodgy lawyer Gillard in Parliament saying that unlike Abbott she goes to “great trouble and care” with the details.
Ahahahahahahahaha.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:10 pm
Is it truth? Didn’t Michael Smith come up with a copy of the application to create the association, and in (allegedly) Gillard’s own handwriting have words to the effect of the AWU Workplace Reform Association being for the purpose of promoting a safe working environment? I’d have to listen to the interview again to be certain but I’m pretty sure thats what was written, and that it’s very different to what was put to the partners of Slater & Gordon in that little transcribed and recorded “chat.”
Supplice
23 Aug 12 at 2:11 pm
Geez I really hope the Australian prints the transcript of gillard’s presser today. It would be worth fisking.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:12 pm
Based on Gillard’s statements, Slater & Gordon’s handling of the conveyancing would be the next place to start looking.
Who handled the deposit of the $67k to their trust account and what documentation accompanied it?
Any file for the conveyancing? Do Slater & Gordon say it is the AWU’s file? First rule of any legal instructions – WHO is your client.
H B Bear
23 Aug 12 at 2:14 pm
Has there ever been a more fraidy-cat Opposition?
The prime minister dragged to a humiliating press conference to explain her dodgy behaviour (for 1 hour and 13 minutes) and not a SINGLE question to her in the House.
No, she just stands there and pours a bucket of shit on Abbott as a liar and an inept buffoon. Today she is saying Abbott doesn’t read everything before him.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:15 pm
Wow. Crooked prime minister close to cracking up in Parliament.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:17 pm
CL: “The first leader in political history whose defence is ‘no no – it was a dodgy slush fund, not a trust fund.”
Pure gold.
Kaboom
23 Aug 12 at 2:17 pm
GREAT RNC ad.
He tried, you tried, it’s OK to make a change
Exactly the points they need to be making.
Fisky
23 Aug 12 at 2:18 pm
If the the two Skynews commentators (Ashleigh Gillon plus an obscure other) were any further in her corner they would have disappeared up her ample backside.
Viva
23 Aug 12 at 2:18 pm
@kaboom – on the association rules, there is this (smh):
I believe Michael Smith has stated it’s her handwriting. So she wrote the rules.
She’s in a trap now. The Press Conference was a big mistake.
Well, actually, being an unethical and crooked lawyer well versed in deceit was the first mistake.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:18 pm
CL, for those unable to see/hear QT, can you expand please?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
23 Aug 12 at 2:19 pm
but there are no rebuttals allowed in the House from the Opposition, CL and if anyone from the Speakers’ left raises a grievance to what the lying PM is stating then the Speaker turfs them out.
But I agree, in general, the Coalition seems cowed by Gillard’s loud voice and bluster.
Face it guys, no matter what you say the love media will report it unfavorably, so instead of trying to appease just have the balls to stand your ground and have the courage of your convictions and fuck the consequences.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:19 pm
The ALP hacks are crying out desperately for a five second soundbite of when Abbott having a go so they can endlessly run that on the newscycle creating the impression that it’s just a political point scoring squabble being driven by a “desperate” AbbottAbbottAbott.
As they did regarding Slipper and Thompson.
He cannot say a word on the matter outside of what he has done so far.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 2:21 pm
BRC – the “application” might be a one page form, enclosing the proposed articles of association.
IIRC, there were advertising requirements, fees to pay, etc. Adopting the “model” rules was a quick and easy way of incorporation.
I’m just suggesting that it may be incorrect to say that JG “wrote” the rules in this instance.
Kaboom
23 Aug 12 at 2:22 pm
Labor was in power in WA when “slush fund” was established there and $380,000 donated via Theiss?
Labor was voted out in February 1993. $67,722 house deposit cheque was drawn on the “slush fund” bank account on 18th March 1993.
Septimus
23 Aug 12 at 2:24 pm
@supplice “Is it truth?”
What I mean is that she admits to the association being setup for union slush fund re-election. No longer pretending it was for workplace reform. She’s trying to spin it around to say that ‘yes, I set up a slush fund, it was Blewitt who wrote the dodgy rules’.
Only the handwritten application for the association is in her handwriting, and besides, she was the lawyer. Pinning it on your client is a bit rich when you wrote it.
It’s in the news now. Time for one of the opposition to ask some salient questions.
Exactly. Given the cheque has been produced, I’d say it’s a fair likelihood the rest of the conveyancing and mortgage information has been procured. Correct me if I’m wrong, but all that stuff has to be lodged when a house changes hands, so it’s on the public record.
It would seem the PMO strategy is to answer a few questions, then bluff her way through. Commendable, but disastrous if there is more evidence to come out.
I just keep thinking we’re about to see a blue GAP dress appear.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:24 pm
Point taken. We need to see the application. But it’s a weak defense, and contradicts her earlier statements.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:25 pm
+1 time to stare down the love media and show some spine.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:26 pm
They all need to watch taped interviews of Sununu, for 24 hours. Watch and learn, Libs.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:28 pm
Bullshit.
This is now becoming a tradition on the right.
‘Oh noes – we can’t say ANYTHING because the media will get us so we’ll just sit here and be beaten up.’
I’ve called this the right’s Stockholm Syndrome.
We saw them meekly stop their Thompson campaign when the ALP ordered them to. So now he’s swaggered off – laughing – into the sunset.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:29 pm
I wish they all did that thing Gillard does in pressers – She decides who will ask the questions and in what order, “you, you then you”.
The Libs also need to do this rather than just be subjected to a barrage of questions all being yelled out at the same time.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:32 pm
Abbott should announce his own Finklestein plan to be implemented immediately after next election.
With the council staffed entirely by random small business owners.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 2:33 pm
Albanese laughing heartily as Swan makes fun of Abbott for not reading a document.
Sitting next to Swan – also laughing – is Gillard, a woman who set up an illegal slush fund for a married criminal she was rooting.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:33 pm
BRC – on reflection, I think an application to incorporate would also have annexed a certified copy of an unanimous motion of an existing unincorporated association to become incorporated!
There must be minutes – and a paper trail. It would show the “members” votes to incorporate.
Kaboom
23 Aug 12 at 2:34 pm
Gillard had to double down or she was gone. Fact is she created the test whereby if she is linked to any documents, she proves she has lied.
I believe that if Labor falls on this matter, you’ll hear canards from the Love Media equating this to the dismissal.
Better that Coalition not touch it so the legitimacy of their mandate at the next election is not tarnished.
Face it guys, this looks like a ruined house built on poor foundations that is tottering. It is likely to fall in without Abbott & his team having to touch it.
The fact that SoB is getting the vapours so often indicates the rats are fleeing and going to a safer location.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 2:38 pm
Yes that was weak but the luvvie media wastrying as hard as they could to transform that into a liberal driven political jihad. Once it became clear the indeps weren’t going to drop their support there was nothing more the libs could do other than rant and rave on about it for the next 14 months.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 2:38 pm
Gillard’s story changes again:
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:38 pm
“Yea huck… relax and take a deep breath. If you’re feeling pissed about something, you can always take it out of Steve Pinata. We always do.”
Careful JC, she also made it clear she blames Pickering:
Pickering’s Slapper Pinata
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 2:41 pm
@token – that’s why it should be Pyne or maybe Bishop who goes and gives the house a good push, to see if it goes over.
They can ask one well-worded question – something getting to the heart of the matter, and see what the response is.
Labor is busy trying to reframe this is a smear campaign over sloppy paperwork – that is clear now – they can’t let this excuse live even for a day.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:42 pm
Gillard’s inconsistent variations of what she thought the fund was about would expose here to cross-examination about her credibility. She really ought to be charged with an offence that relates to the use of the funds.
rafiki
23 Aug 12 at 2:46 pm
Not sure what you’re saying here – obviously sliding into lawyer-speak. Does this mean she can pin it on blewitt and walk, or is implicated?
From what I can recall, the association only had two members – Wilson and Blewitt.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:48 pm
On reflection, I think the ideal question for Julie Bishop to ask the PM is this:
‘Would you use government power to close down the internet sites reporting on the AWU affair. If so, why not use the existing defamation laws to do the same?’
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:49 pm
Craig Emerson now speaking.
Another married man Gillard has rooted.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:52 pm
Someone’s advice to the PM yesterday:
“Under no circumstances answer any question from anyone, including Paul Kelly. Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.”
It’s the cover-up that get’s them every time..
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 2:53 pm
Married Gillard rooter Emerson was speaking about Abbott and the “test of character.”
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 2:53 pm
@BRC- “Not sure what you’re saying here”
An incorporated association cannot exist in a vacuum. It must have members, who have unanimously (a) agreed to incorporate, and (b) incorporate under “these” rules.
There must be proof of minutes of a meeting, held say not more than 30 days prior to the application being lodged.
Otherwise, the application may be rejected.
Kaboom
23 Aug 12 at 2:54 pm
brc – Rather than “shades of ‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman’”, it’s shades of ‘all I did was have sexual relations with that man’.
(this is not an original joke – but can’t remember where I saw it)
rafiki
23 Aug 12 at 2:56 pm
@lazlo – it was a crazy thing to do, go out and start making statements without knowing the full amount of evidence still yet to be brought to light. But I think they had little choice. She couldn’t continue to stay schtum about it.
They are not in control of the agenda now, so they had to play the least-worst hand. The hand they hold does not have any winners in it.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:57 pm
How long until this shows up in overseas media? Surely the Brits would love to throw this across one of their tabloids?
brc
23 Aug 12 at 2:58 pm
Well, I haven’t seen it yet, but I assume she gave a solid presser about it, seeing it annoyed you all so much.
12,657th Catallaxian prediction that Gillard is about to go fails. Again.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 2:59 pm
Yep, she’s played right into their hands.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 2:59 pm
Is anna Burke Labor?
I just had a look at her website and there’s no party affiliation mentioned. Why is that?
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 3:02 pm
Yep, she’s played right into their hands.
Shoes. You keep forgetting Gab, your expertise is shoes.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 3:03 pm
@brc: I think we’re on the same page. I’d love to see it splayed across the global english speaking media, but it’s all leftist infested. Socialist solidarity and all that.
Supplice
23 Aug 12 at 3:04 pm
Steve, fuck off you racist pedophile
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 3:05 pm
I’m annoyed that we have a confirmed liar who has no problem with deceit.
I don’t think this will bring her down. I hope she limps to an election with the stench of union corruption hanging around her neck. I’m more interested in future union slush-fund slurpers like Shorten and Howes being stopped because of it.
It’s the independents who should be bringing the goat rodeo to a close. As if Labor would ever voluntarily end their time at the feeding trough.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:06 pm
Surely one of Uncle Ruperts right-wing tabloids in the UK would give it a go? This type of thing is right up their alley.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:07 pm
Your expertise is in phallic gravatars, dan.
CL’s is in grotesque double guessing of military and civilian leadership in WW2.
IT’s is in violent lesbian jail fantasies.
(Just to show I’m not being sexist.)
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 3:08 pm
Is anyone affiliated with the ALP advertising the fact? “Labor” rarely appeared in ALP election ads in Queensland earlier this year, and I haven’t seen a mention on all the flyers, newspaper and TV ads for the current NT election either. It’s all “The Henderson Team.”
Fun fact: Unions NT had a van parked out with their pamphleteers on the Smith St mall on tuesday, still decked out in 2007 anti-workchoices livery. I’ve got a photo.
Supplice
23 Aug 12 at 3:08 pm
Work Choices? LOL yeah that’ll really scare the voters after seeing how FWA has fucked up jobs growth.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 3:10 pm
stupid phone camera. its blury but its there. “your rights at work”
Supplice
23 Aug 12 at 3:10 pm
You told us it was a non-story.
You told us she had nothing to answer.
Yet the PM has just spent an hour fending off questions about this non-story.
You said there was no evidence.
Yet we’ve had a transcript, stat decs and a photocopy of the infamous cheque appear.
She has confessed in her press conference that she set up a slush fund, but created it for the purposes of workplace reform. Instead of admitting she set it up under false pretences, the new strategy seems to be to blame the union bagman?
Now you’re saying that she’s dealt with this well?
Tell me again : why do you defend this lying, deceitful person? She’s not even a good politician, why bother with the defense?
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:10 pm
Your a racist who believes the rape of young children should be the subject of ridicule.
Fuck off or I will hunt you down
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 3:10 pm
Julie Bishop just had the Yarralumla Che Guevara, Bill Shorten, wetting his pants about his decisions regarding the AWU’s systemic criminality.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 3:11 pm
With all this story, I forgot we’re about to see the NT Labor government fall. That should be fun to watch, only they don’t have many electorates to start with.
It’s like Labor used it’s plain-packaging laws on it’s own election material, just to show how well it works.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:12 pm
Not a death threat
Dan
23 Aug 12 at 3:13 pm
Steve once posted pictures of genital warts here.
Nobody knew why.
He claims to be married.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 3:14 pm
Um, you’re getting more than a tad unhinged, Dan.
Why don’t you take it up with CL & Sinclair, who I believe have both expressed skepticism that the Heiner investigation movement was of any real point or benefit pursuing.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 3:14 pm
That sawn-off social climbing suckhole Shorten sounds more rattled than a Salvos tin.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 3:14 pm
He claims to have kids yet he’s here all hours, day & night.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 3:14 pm
I made a comment on the paper management post but maybe someone here can answer my question:
Why was there no conflict between AWU a major client of the firm and ‘providing advice’ to one of its officials of the most convenient manner in which to set up a re election slush fund
I’m assuming a re election slush fund is for the benefit of union officials running for re election rather than for the benefit of union members
But I’m no expert in how these things work in union circles, maybe someone more au fait with these matters could comment
And I understood from the taped interview between Michael Smith and David Flint that the application for the registration of the association was likely signed by Ms Gillard and that application I’m anticipating would have been accompanied by the proposed rules for the proposed incorporated Association
so ‘providing advice’ may or not mean drafting the application for the association plus the proposed rules and lodging them
Was that part of the ‘advice given’
Then there was a question from WA and there was an assurance given
by whom was that given?
val majkus
23 Aug 12 at 3:15 pm
Apology to the Prime MinisterFrom: The Australian
August 23, 2012 10:05AM
AN article in today's The Australian reported that Prime Minister Julia Gillard had set up a trust fund for her then boyfriend 17 years ago.
This is wrong.
The Australian apologises for the error.
LOL
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 3:16 pm
Gab, same with Stephen Smith. He’s actually taken Labor from the front of his office in Inglewood. Just reads Stephen Smith Federal Member for Perth.
Is that legal? Can you be in office under a party, but nowhere state who that party it is?
harrys on the boat
23 Aug 12 at 3:17 pm
Hahahaha. Pickering.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 3:19 pm
The CLP will win and tip out the minority Labor government on Saturday, but not by much, I’m guessing. Apparently the CLP leadership isn’t the strongest they’ve ever fielded. However, Gillard’s government of lies, deception and constant crisis will have an impact and we may be surprised.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 3:20 pm
If he’s got kids, they hate him and refuse to see him anymore. I mean, what a fucking role model? A pathetic skid mark on humanity who spends all his time on a blog he doesn’t have the intelligence for, dribbling shit. What a sad prick.
harrys on the boat
23 Aug 12 at 3:21 pm
I don’t know, harry. What I do know is if it was “illegal” it would not deter Labor MPs. It seems for Labor that laws don’t apply to them and are merely suggestions, not rules.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 3:22 pm
From today’s Oz:
Rabz
23 Aug 12 at 3:22 pm
Every Territory public servant I know is running scared. Most of them fucking well should be too, the dead weights.
Supplice
23 Aug 12 at 3:22 pm
The headline immediately under that:
GILLARD: Set up work safety ‘slush fund’
Oh boy Finklestein is going to be busy.
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 3:22 pm
I’m telling you, it’s the new plain-packaging laws. Labor is just showing solidarity with the tobacco companies by not running any branding.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:26 pm
And, what was on “Those Documents” that the “Foreign Man of Mystery”, “mysteriously” managed to simply walk through security to hand to Ms. Gillard?
He also gave it to others; a Liberal Minister and someone to do with Peter Slipper…sorry, I didn’t catch all the detail.
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 3:26 pm
Peter Van Onselen and David Speers have just declared on Skynews that Gillard has put the AWU saga to bed. Well, lets see shall we.
dianeh
23 Aug 12 at 3:28 pm
Same in my local council elections – No “Labor” to be seen.
Max
23 Aug 12 at 3:28 pm
harry joins the unhingebots.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 3:29 pm
They did that in NSW (if you look at the poster there is a tiny postage stamp sized ALP logo).
The saddest version of that was the “Save Verity” posters for the sister of the Chasers Colin Firth in the inner-luvvie-west.
It is legal as there is no law that they have to show their brand if it is toxic.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 3:33 pm
Shoot me now. Bolt has gone back to his Julia-loving days.
But he does end with this:
Stand by for more information to come out and turn the press conference into a self-aware stream of lies and bluster.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:36 pm
He does drop the name of one party that was obviously not happy with Gillard in 1995 (and probably is now it is clear she sh*tcanned him in the exit interview) – Con the Builder.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 3:42 pm
For anyone interested here is the apparently, according to the ABC, unedited video clip of Julia “I did nothing wrong” Gillard.
Clicky here.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 3:51 pm
“it was a crazy thing to do, go out and start making statements without knowing the full amount of evidence still yet to be brought to light.”
“Yep, she’s played right into their hands.”
…or, could it be she’s actually playing handsies with Pickering under the table.
Above everything else, she gave Pickering The Prize for causing her to come out and make statements (about what real journalists have long been covering), the day after Pickering posted this on his, “Very Violent Sexist” site:
ADVICE TO THE PRIME MINISTER:
Do not answer any questions!
Under no circumstances answer any question from anyone, including Paul Kelly. Do not make any statements. If you do, it will amount to self harm of suicidal proportions.
You know there is much material yet to be released: Transcripts, tapes, signed statements, affidavits, the evidence of Blewitt, Wilson’s media deal, McClelland, Cambridge, a Federal Court Judge, former partners, colleagues and associates, the AWU, the Law Institute, Vic Police FOI material and much more.
You cannot possibly know the extent of what will be presented as corroborated evidence. Get one thing wrong and you will be mercilessly beaten all the way to the gallows with it.
Keep stonewalling them Prime Minister. You are on a hiding to nothing… unless of course you want to tell the entire truth. But that would be a silly and uncharacteristic thing to do.
Oh dear, silly me! Fancy teaching you to suck eggs when your army of well-paid minders would have already advised you of that.
Anyway, just hang in there, mate. It might all go away.
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 3:54 pm
Not what she said in her interview … whatever.
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 3:55 pm
@true lilly my takeaway from that whole thing is that Pickering has a mole in the PMO, or close to it. He knew she was going to do the presser, so decided to post it.
Must be quite satisfying to start out with a couple of posts on facebook about how journalists shouldn’t be sacked, and end up with the PM naming you in a press conference as the pebble in her shoe.
‘Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrell’ will have to be updated to ‘never fight with someone who has plenty of facebook friends’
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:58 pm
The modularity hypothesis cops another hit
Roots of Human Self-Awareness: New Study Points to a Complex, Diffuse Patchwork of Brain Pathways
Dead Soul
23 Aug 12 at 3:59 pm
@tiny dancer – pretty impressive they managed to spin the lies and the truth together into one statement. I detect the hand of an angry scotsman.
sfb tried that one on yesterday – reforming workplaces is done by getting union members elected for the good of the workplace.
I can hear the truth screaming for mercy from all the stretching on the rack.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 3:59 pm
They have a photocopy of the friggen cheque, FFS. How much more do they have?
On the http://pickeringpost.com/ in his header image there are copies of Deposit slips.
I bet there are some transaction documents with her handwriting on them, deposit slips, reciepts, withdrawals. Something.
Max
23 Aug 12 at 4:02 pm
Pretty long bow she’s trying to draw there.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 4:02 pm
@max – you’re right there. If you look at the header you can see the copy of the reform assocation application. It is a pre-printed form.
I wonder what the deposit forms are from? Are they in the Kernohan or Cambridge stat decs? Or are they new material not seen yet?
I used to think she used her clever lawyer brain to keep plausible deniability to a maximum. But after reading the exit transcript the ‘naive’ excuse starts to gain more weight. She was very sloppy at keeping her distance. I guess that’s understandable – just a bit of low-level fraud to build up a slush fund. Who was ever going to find out?
brc
23 Aug 12 at 4:11 pm
One of problems arising from this matter is the statement by Smith reading from the relevant act is that the association must have the signature of 5 members, where as the AWU Workplace Association only had 2.
So did Gillard just drop Justice Bernard Murphy in the poo for being responsible for the matter and for not creating the necessary file?
Wasn’t he supposed to be the senior lawyer on this matter?
Token
23 Aug 12 at 4:14 pm
In her exit interview she produced “HAND WRITTEN” reciepts from con the builder etc etc Any competent HR manager would have taken copies of all the documents produced and kept them on her HR file.
Max
23 Aug 12 at 4:17 pm
@max I don’t see the hand-written receipts from the builder as being a big deal – I’ve never had anything but hand-printed receipts from builders.
I wonder if Con the builder ever speaks up will she finally fess up, or will she continue to deny, deny, deny all the way.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 4:20 pm
She’s done herself the disservice of telling her employees that she knew the rort was on. Now she gives an unbelievable explanation that the re-election was related to workplace safety.
The new explanation is completely different to the one given to her employers. Too little too late.
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 4:22 pm
In her exit interview she produced “HAND WRITTEN” reciepts from con the builder etc etc Any competent HR manager would have taken copies of all the documents produced and kept them on her HR file.
Slater and Gordon are a public company. ASIC needs to be pushed into action over disclosure, directors duties and acts of management.
Max
23 Aug 12 at 4:24 pm
We all know that, but is it enough for the love media to finally run the ‘this is all dealt with’ stories they are desperate to run?
Or will there be more questions along this line?
I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 4:28 pm
Well on Skynews Ashleigh Gillon, David Speers, Malcolm Farr and Peter Van O have all rushed to affirm Gillard’s “tour de force” has put paid to all this nasty talk.
Viva
23 Aug 12 at 4:33 pm
Well thank God for that. At last, Catallaxy can return to the inadequately discussed issue of gay marriage.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 4:37 pm
Not to mention the unresolved issue of how World War 2 should’ve been ended properly.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 4:39 pm
So the ‘re-election’ was all to do with workplace safety. Water is known to flow uphill, too, Ms. Gillard, is it not? The earth is also flat, and butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth, madam.
Not with all the perfumes of Araby, Ms. Gillard, not even then would your little hand in all of this sweeten.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 4:39 pm
Clearly the truth is unimportant to the sychophants reading from the talking points memo. As long as the object of affection is removed from the front pages.
A isn’t equal to A. A can be B, if it’s important enough. Idiotic disciples of Plato who care only about relative truth, not in reality.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 4:40 pm
Clearly reform is a by-word for making sure unions can do whatever they like.
Just remember that whenever you here Ms G talking about important ‘reforms’ in the future.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 4:42 pm
@brc, Ha, I remember Larry from 27, not 17 years ago, when he trained a horse of mine, and I remember the sorts of ‘movers and shakers’ he mixed and mingled with back then…and I can’t help but think that it’s no accident that while he’s going at Gillard, the Government is ‘investigating’ Race Fixing…around people who also made the news after a certain racing identity’s murder.
Purana detectives interview horse trainers as part of a race-fixing probe
Race fixing inquiry likely to lead to new laws
August 17, 2012
…and there’s “That 17″ again, along with the threat of yet more new LAWS for our Labor loaded Judiciary to apply, or NOT, as they see ‘fit’.
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 4:44 pm
Steve, we can talk about whatever we talk about. You can follow like a little lost dog looking for a home. Don’t you have any friends? Or are you a secret lover of fifty shades of black and white? Here’s my hairbrush. Spank yourself. Then go.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 4:47 pm
What we have learned during this term of government (and should’ve previously learned) is that governments exist to collect public funds.
Public funds exist to be spent on over priced publicly funded projects and services.
Those over priced publicly funded projects and services exist to provide a platform for union jobs and union training schemes for their select client class.
Union jobs and union training schemes exist to fund the Brahma class and to fund the Trade Union Brahma political class (ALP politicians, trade union leaders, ambulance chasing union lawyers & the judgets/magistrates that have been promoted from the previous 3 groups).
Finally, the Trade Union Brahma political class exists to ensure the continual expansion of government and control on all arms of government (including the media).
You can guess where “reforms” sits in that.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 4:52 pm
ShitFer has a definite ring to it as a dog’s name. Especially a government lapdog. “Here, ShitFer! Here’s a bone, ShitFer! Go fetch it for mummy Julia, ShitFer! Yeeees, mummy loves ShitFer! Good boy!”
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 4:53 pm
I must admit it is enjoyable to keep this conversation alive just to annoy SoB.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 4:54 pm
Well Pickering is no doubt a colorful character. I’d buy him a beer to listen to his stories, but I wouldn’t lend him $50. I hope your horse did well.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 4:56 pm
“Shoot me now. Bolt has gone back to his Julia-loving days.”
A. Bolt swings about in his opinions like other journalists as they are not sure who to back because they never really understand public opinion until after it happens. backing it both ways sort of.
candy
23 Aug 12 at 5:01 pm
Protester slips past Gillard’s security
Parliament House, entered the media conference room and handed the Prime Minister a document on live television.
The document was titled “How could this happen?”. Media representatives chasing the man reported that he said he had been unsuccessfully trying to contact police about the issue.
………………
But, he said he just walked in, and that there was NO SECURITY, even though, they say, that wouldn’t be possible.
And again, that cryptic little post of Pickering’s:
So anyone believe that there may some bravely unbiased person who will be able to tell us what “That Document” contained, and how he did get in the position to hand deliver it?
Oh, and the Liberal Minister he also delivered it to, was from W.A.
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 5:09 pm
Another triumph!
Juliar commissions Bill the Greek to restore a noted Spanish work of art…
Rabz
23 Aug 12 at 5:09 pm
Candy, do you know anyone ordinary who likes her? Apart from the professional lefties, I don’t. I also hope that some award-longing journo keeps on the trail. There is more to be found and said yet. Especially at election time.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 5:11 pm
From the ABC summary:
Wow. Just as I was saying here a few hours before the press conference.
I certainly hope that if I am providing helpful rhetorical hints to the PM’s advisers, a cheque from some union related association finds its way to my letterbox soon.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 5:13 pm
Well done, Bill the Greek. The panache, the finish, the emotion. An artist lurks within his humble tradie frame.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 5:14 pm
You’d take that cheque too, you greasy little slime, wouldn’t you?
You’re the only sleazy misguided misogynist nut job I’ve come across around here. You don’t respect women and you don’t respect sex, or you wouldn’t be so low-down awful about it in our presence. Contrary to what some might think, I find the regular guys on the Cat to be highly respectful in this regard.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 5:20 pm
+1
I have a very low opinion of you too, SFB.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 5:22 pm
the married men affair thing is the ace up Tony ABbott’s sleeve if he chooses to use, as he can speak from a position of honesty and values.
that’s why Ms Gillad is on about misogynist stuff – she’s trying to turn it back on the Coalition.
candy
23 Aug 12 at 5:24 pm
A big thankyou to Token for the Phil Coorey link and also to Peter of Bellevue Hill on Andrew Bolts Tips sction who provided me with the links. You gave me the final piece I needed to complete the jigsaw puzzle. Check out my post at http://www.kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/08/22/julia-gillard-caught-lying-on-the-public-record-in-2007-about-the-bruce-wilson-awu-fraud-scandal/
hillbilly33
23 Aug 12 at 5:29 pm
Which is why a statement to the Parliament would be a surprise.
lotocoti
23 Aug 12 at 5:30 pm
She said it’s a “sexist smear campaign” but sexist how? Does she mean if Abbott was in her place, being a man, no one would pursue the story, delve into his past?
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 5:31 pm
What would you expect an incompetent female leftwing zombie promoted beyond her talent to say? Of course, it’s sexist; there aren’t any other bullets in the gun. She’d use waaaacist if she could; in fact, she will. She’ll be trying to figure out how to work it into the conversation in the next few months while she dusts off the fascist playbook on how to shut down media freedom.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 5:32 pm
So there you have it, ShitferBrains.
The girls don’t like you.
I don’t like you.
Nobody likes you.
Now go away.
Winston SMITH
23 Aug 12 at 5:45 pm
@brc, ha, well I probably best leave it at, yes, he is a colourful character, who I have no reason to support, but good reason to believe his missives are worth scouring…like I believe there is MUCH, MUCH More to the “Russian Migration Agent” who got to Ms. Gillard, at the start of the filming of her blathering, and then simply walked out…and already the ‘Official Media’ is reporting bald faced lies of what everyone was shown to have happened.
It was all a lot like a “Reverse Australia Day Riot” situation…
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 5:52 pm
Gillard sez ‘you’re only picking on me ’cause i’m a girl’.
Pathetic.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 5:54 pm
It’s a bit of a stretch to call it a rabid campaign when it’s running on the Australia, The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald – and all from sources other than Pickerings website.
Some complain that his sideshow allows people to attack the story. I’m of the opinion that his sideshow is the reason the story is in the papers. Once he dropped the hints and made it clear no legal action would be forthcoming, the other journalists developed the cojones to actually print the truth. And when the truth comes out, we find she’s been lying all along.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 5:54 pm
Hey, girls (Gab & Lizzie. candy gets a pass for now because she doesn’t attack me much, even though some of what I say applies to her too.)
This blog has an absolutely shocking history with misogyny re females on the wrong side of the political fence.
The examples are too, too numerous to detail, and apart from mere, continually repeated, immature school boy humour about the apparently horrendous appearance of some female (only Labor or Green, or course) politicians, some of the stuff said about, say, Sarah Fluke was completely offensive, as is much about Gillard.
Rarely, oh so rarely, do you complain of anyone here going over the top or being ridiculously misogynistic.
I think it’s funny, in a sad kind of way, that you think the relatively mild misogyny of me (say) telling Gab to stick to shoes gets built up by you and your male buddies into the most horrendous misogynistic insult ev-a, while you sit back and watch the same men who run to your defence call a woman in the media who they know nought about (Fluke) a lesbian, slut, whore, etc because she talked about contraception in a political context.
So if you want me to have more respect for you, it would take some calling out of the actual, real, ugly misogyny on this blog that’s here virtually every friggin’ day.
And Lizzie, I find your highly mannered way of chatting about yourself of little interest, and bit Mk50-ian in its irritating effect, so I just generally leave you alone. Gab keeps saying she’s ignoring me, but then doesn’t, and so often can’t be ignored.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 5:56 pm
Well I don’t consider myself a regular* but I try not to bring sex into it, and I do my best not to swear, or at least to bleep it out.
*current posting level exceptional circumstances, I will be in self-imposed exile soon
brc
23 Aug 12 at 5:58 pm
And Lizzie, I find your highly mannered way of chatting…
ZZZZZZZZ
SoB, nobody cares less what you think.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 5:59 pm
And there we have it, the Pickering defence.
In the future defence counsel will refute evidence in court on the basis that they could find at least one uncouth nut on the internet who agreed with the brief of evidence.
Keith
23 Aug 12 at 6:02 pm
Candy, sadly, if Tony Abbott was to make comment on the morality of Gillard’s relationship history the love media would be down on him hard. He would be seen to be interfering with a woman’s right to ‘freedom’ and ‘choice’ etc. All the usual memes of left feminism. All he can do is hold his head high (he did support that love-child that wasn’t even his) and lead by example.
It is up to us, women ourselves, to make heard the distaste we feel for her behaviour of breaking into marriages that may not yet have finished, and thus possibly disturbing the future of the children of those marriages.
No-one can say whether the marriages of her lovers would have lasted, and her men were unpromising material in this regard, but in my book it is immoral to enter romantically into anyone else’s marriage until it is well and truly finished. Refusal to engage sends a message to men about what is really important.
When I see her in primary schools playing all pollie-friendly to little children, her past behaviour comes to front of mind. I hope it does so for others too. She has been no friend to children in the past. She appears to have placed her own self-aggrandisement before real concern for their welfare or indeed the well-being of their mothers. Very anti-woman and anti-family in fact.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 6:05 pm
Note the receipts and other bits at the top of Milne’s story back in 2007. You can have a better view by right clicking and selecting ‘view’.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/gillards-stunning-confession/story-e6freuzi-1111114848862
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 6:05 pm
Fuck off you whiny little bitch. Cook me some eggs.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 6:07 pm
@lizzie – all good points, but all too heteronormative for the zeitgeist.
It’s funny how lefties are wont to plead for the children when it’s about what might possibly happen in 100 years, but aren’t inclined to lift a finger to help keep families together, or even uphold a minimum moral standard.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 6:08 pm
…also why I’m keen to know the truth behind the Russian Migration Agent simply “walking through” NO SECURITY, to present her with those documents
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 6:10 pm
“but in my book it is immoral to enter romantically into anyone else’s marriage until it is well and truly finished. ”
totally agree, Elizabeth, and she was way old enough and cluey enough to know better, mid-30′s and going on 40 for heaven’s sake.
Also, I notice the US and Britain expect certain standards of their leaders, but we don’t anymore.
candy
23 Aug 12 at 6:11 pm
I suspect after the Gillard experiment ends, there will be a national desire for a proper first family again, complete with a labrador and a cat.
Many people don’t express their discomfort because it’s verboten. But I’m sure in years to come there will be a sigh of relief when politicians can appear with their families again, without cries of ‘unfair’.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 6:17 pm
You mean Emily’s listers. Lol
We despise them for the rancid dregs of humanity they are. That goes for the males who hang around them too.
So fuck off.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm
Because, Stevie you literalist, largely it is mannered and a form of ironic, if bar-room, comment, whereas your contributions are not.
But you clearly don’t understand mannered well, do you? What do you read, Steve? Comic books? Or merely leftish talking points? Open your mind to the big world around you, in all of its linguistic and symbolic interest without the left memes to ‘guide’ you.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 6:21 pm
Steve I’m not a member of The Sisterhood people can stick up for themselves
Tal
23 Aug 12 at 6:22 pm
Yes sfb, wot JC said.
Go cook dinner.
A suggestion for you.
Jumpnmcar
23 Aug 12 at 6:22 pm
Don’t fret about it brc. It’s the stuff of life, and its how you bring it into discourse that matters, not whether you do or not. For me anyway.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 6:24 pm
Hey I think the Slapper was referring to the Cat too about her references to da sexisim on the web.
Slapper, after the abuse from Keating, which your side of the political fence thought was so funny they made a musical, the abuse Howard received about his appearance and the abuse received Abbott about his religious background, don’t dare complain you fat assed troll.
Always escalate. Always… is my motto.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 6:25 pm
Gillard’s now given three different versions for the account she set-up/didn’t set-up for Wilson.
Good liars must have good memories.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 6:26 pm
i’ve put this on the paper management post but someone here may have an answer
if you’re a professional lawyer (or have been) at what stage do you just dump your clients in the shit (publicly speaking) in favour of saving your own meritorious skin
where’s the lawyer/client privilege (which is owed by the lawyer)and can only be withdrawn by the client
assuming the client here is Wilson/Blewitt
or was it AWU
in whichever case the privilege can only be withdrawn by the client
just curious
val majkus
23 Aug 12 at 6:28 pm
SoB, there is nothing more damaging to real women, real men and children, than the full force of the Feminist Agenda that those Emily’s List #@&%S! are poisoning the world with.
Oh and wasn’t it just plain stupid of Gillard to keep crying, “sexist Larry is picking on me!”, while also feeling the need to, so manfully, keep defending Obama, by also attacking all the men and women who don’t trust him.
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 6:29 pm
Oh yeah, lol she brought Obama into her imbroglio. Wonder he feels about that.
Little girl hiding behind Big Daddy.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 6:31 pm
StevieLiar. Done your jobs? Filed your diary with Centrelink? Been impressed with more lies? Had your hormone shot? So much to do, such little time.
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 6:34 pm
Wrong, fuckhead.
No one spends $3k a year on condoms.
Gillard is a fat slut who will go to prison for her crimes.
Q.E.D.
.
23 Aug 12 at 6:37 pm
LOL… I’d forgotten that. Abbott was being sexist and highlight her childless status by have his family with him on the campaign.
And now this latest stuff is just cause she’s a sheila, and Abbott can’t take orders from a girl (despite being married with daughters)
FMD, they’re a pathetic bunch.
I’m not sure it’s all spin though – I think they really believe it to an extent. It fits in with their self-loathing mindset – where every achievement is merely a testament to someone’s failure.
Howard was right, but didn’t go far enough – these people don’t just have a black arm-band view of history – they have a black arm-band view of life. Successful in business? You should feel guilty about that (you didn’t build that, anyway). Have a family? Hate-monger! Achievements of western culture? We should be ashamed of them too!
Fleeced
23 Aug 12 at 6:38 pm
“I’ve been trying to contact the police but haven’t received any response,” the unidentified man said.
The man said he had also contacted ASIO and written to MPs about “foreign intelligence threats”.
Media representatives chasing the man reported that he said he had been unsuccessfully trying to contact police about the issue.
(yes, it was MEDIA, NOT SECURITY, who eventually caught up with him outside!?)
Ms Gillard, who was standing with Mr Bowen at the front of the room, said she did not feel threatened.
But the incident will be examined to see if there was a security breach.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/protester-slips-past-gillards-security/story-fndo48ca-1226456725982
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 6:40 pm
If people tend to have problems working with people, you tend to hear it from their allies, not their enemies. Compare Rudd to Abbott – his own party allies and staffers call him out. Where are the long lines of disgruntled female staffers and fellow MPs lining up to bag him? If you want an example of Liberals who rub colleagues the wrong way, you can’t go past Heffernan, or…here’s one which I’m sure will ruffle a few feathers: Turnbull.
Quentin George
23 Aug 12 at 6:45 pm
This is the only sort of things you hear from ex-Abbott staffers.
(Mind you, that is a terrible title for the article.)
Quentin George
23 Aug 12 at 6:46 pm
One day when I am completely pissed I will breech my internal gag order and tell you of my experiences with a certain Sky News host who has a hatred for Abbott and a deep love of Warmbull.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 6:48 pm
Where’s Turnbull in all this. Silent? Why?
JC
23 Aug 12 at 6:50 pm
Unsavoury sexual history.
Unedifying current living arrangements.
Unsavoury work record.
Shady political record.
Hubris that Lucifer could not best.
Yet transparently decent, traditional family guy Tony Abbott is daily the one who is traduced by many in the media and elsewhere. What sort of country have we become?
Viva
23 Aug 12 at 6:54 pm
You really do have to give the left credit for realising early on how important it was to control the institutions. I doff my hat to them.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 7:00 pm
Wow. What a revolutionary concept. We ought to try that everywhere in Australia, in business, academia and the PS.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:02 pm
And over at the ABC.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:02 pm
TRANSCRIPT of Gillard’s “I dun nuffink wrong” presser.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:07 pm
Oh, and not only is Abbott sexist for opposing Gillard, but if he opposes the constitutional amendments (which is by no means guaranteed), he’ll be a racist as well.
Life saver, volunteer firefighter, has actually worked in remote communities… doesn’t matter. What community involvement has Gillard had? Does she even donate to charity? Obama was the same, but they were smart enough to come up with the term “community organiser” for his early bullshit lawyer shakedown crap. I suppose Gillard could have claimed that’s what her union work was, but it probably wouldn’t wash now.
Fleeced
23 Aug 12 at 7:07 pm
I think that stupid journalist has been given unnecessary oxygen.
And despite the fact that Abbott has said stuff all, apparently she can still blame him for her actions.
God she’s an evil harlot.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:09 pm
The institutions will continue to harrass, frustrate and conspire against against governments using logic, commonsense and wealth creation as their guiding principles long after Labor and the Greens are driven from office. You watch. The Libs, being closet socialists and lovers of the power of government money with no real guiding wisdom or philosophy of government, will wave away the need for a war in the institutions so that communists will continue to suck on the public teat in the public service, academia and the judiciary and hijack the social, legal and economic agenda. The Libs have no idea how hard it is going to be for them to rule from the end of next year. They will constantly undermined from within.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 7:11 pm
I’m not sure if Bolta can dance, but I think he’s just invented the Dutch Two Step. In 60 mins he went from “She must surely hang” to “Isn’t she magnificent”.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 7:19 pm
I’ve never been so depressed about the idiots running this country as I am now. Can anyone in good faith point to a list of things they have done that will be of benefit to the nation as a whole in their five years in office? I ask this as a genuine question. I like to think I’m a pretty fair minded guy and give credit where it’s due, but I can’t point to any notable positive achievements of this lot like I can in the Hawke/Keating years. They are a bunch of career public servants promoted way above their level of competence and are advised by people straight out of university with zero understanding and experience of the real world.
A bigger bunch of stumbling incompetents I’ve never laid eyes on. I hope that the electorate will come to its senses and vote this sorry lot out of office next year. I think they will, but you never know. The only reason I have any doubt is because I look at some of the people sitting across the aisle in parliament and have a suspicion that they aren’t really much better.
tbh
23 Aug 12 at 7:20 pm
“largely it is mannered and a form of ironic, if bar-room, comment”
Really? Here’s one:
Yes, very mannered and ironic.
Jarrah
23 Aug 12 at 7:23 pm
That seemed a very reasoned comment, Jarrah.
Without wishing to generalise all leftist women are uglier than the south end of a north bound camel with dysentery.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 7:26 pm
I certainly agree with the sentiments in the first paragraph. Our government is a bunch of wowserish harridans. And that’s just the blokes! Internet filters, plain packaging, media enquiries, and alcopops taxes. That is the very antithesis of freedom loving, even if it is on the face of it in a small way.
tbh
23 Aug 12 at 7:28 pm
That’s the thing that genuinely confounds me, Jarrah. The left are essentially 18th century puritans so wit and irony, which are the spice of life as far as I am concerned, go straight over their heads.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 7:32 pm
Just as StevieLiar went away to do his jobs and have his shot up pops another cretinous lunatic. Thanks jarhead
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 7:35 pm
LOL.
Bolt falls for something he so often laments himself: the power of appearing.
It’s not the brazenness and the now conventional ‘fight reality with faux-aggro psycho mendacity,’ Andrew – it’s what she said, measured against what we know.
Journalists are not there to score a performance piece. If they were, Kevin Rudd’s famous last performance in the parliamentary courtyard would be regarded as proof of his humanity, decency, humility, amiability and Christian charity.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 7:36 pm
Wow. Chris Uhlmann back on 7,30 report talking about Gillard.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:36 pm
EEEK! That Labor harridan Sales is back on. Time to switch it off.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:39 pm
A. Bolt is not sure of the side of the fence he’s on sometimes – but no matter – perhaps he’s scared of a court case again?
candy
23 Aug 12 at 7:40 pm
A cursory search for ‘bitch’ on Catallaxy – just in the last month – gives us:
I don’t see any criticism of policy there, do you, Lizzie?
Jarrah
23 Aug 12 at 7:40 pm
The breakup – what Gillard would have us believe:
“Oh my God Bruce! What have you been doing without telling me? After this breach of trust we can’t carry on this relationship.”
The breakup – what probably happened
“You bastard Bruce – I stuck my neck out for you and now I have been sprung and will probably lose my job. You said there would be no problems – that’s it – I’m outta here!
Viva
23 Aug 12 at 7:41 pm
DNC Convention will close down cancer treatment centre for four days.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 7:43 pm
who were those comments from Jarrah?
Jumpnmcar
23 Aug 12 at 7:43 pm
SO when FLOTUS remarked that Romney would kill women, what she really meant was Obama would kill cancer patients.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 7:48 pm
Jarrah, what upsets you about use of the word ‘bitch’?
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 7:53 pm
True Jarrah but it has the redeeming quality of being otherwise accurate.
Besides it’s a succinct and valid observation of the media’s behaviour and bent (and yours).
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 7:53 pm
I grew up surrounded by bitches. Kelpie bitches are my favourite people.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 7:57 pm
Just don’t meow at the female lefty losers, that seems to send them running to the media yelping “sexist! sexist!”. Except for when it’s directed at a conservative female, then they’re all, what? I didn’t hear/see anything.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 8:00 pm
Not against their opponents they aren’t.
Shane Wand termed mining execs thieves and liars because they disagreed over the issue of the mining tax.
Da Nileists are those who disagreed with the oxide tax.
Keating was the most abusive person to ever lead a political party and always attacked his opponents in the most abusive way about such things as their appearance. John Howard was a dessicated coconut for instance. He said this on the 7.30 Report no less. The left even made a musical about his abuse as they thought it witty and hilarious. Abbott is the mad monk.
Now we have some leftwing sympathizers complaining because people have referred to the Slapper as a bitch or a slut. Yea right. I’m pained about it. I’m really hurting.
Escalate and take no fucking prisoners.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm
Translation Jarrah of the codes and metaphors used by this guy:
1. These women of the left persuasion adher to a particular form of presentation of self that identifies them as belonging to a particular political philosophy. They eschew many of the traditional forms of feminine enhancement generally at use in western cultures. We don’t find them sexually attractive when in this mode.
2. Feminism has privileged lesbianism and an authoritarian view of how women should perceive themselves. We don’t like them much around here nor find them sexually attractive, because we think they are against liberty and freedom for women.
3. Women of the non-left persuasion tend to adher to a more ‘usual’ i.e. culturally recognizable, form of presentation of their femininity and general sexual enhancement. We find it attractive.
I think all of this comes in general under the term of ‘fair comment’. I am not insulted by the metaphors or language used.
ps. I am a feminist.
A real one, not a fake left one.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm
I see nuance and irony in all you the quotes you presented Jarrah. Strange you see it different.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:01 pm
James
There’s tons of policy discussions here. You know that.
The fact is though that you can’t really delve too deeply into policy with the leftists here because they no shit.
Just recently I tried to explain the reasons why I support a particular policy route for monetary policy. Stevie understood shit about what I was saying.
Monster has no fucking idea and the rest of the rat pack are basically idiots.
Steve C for instance is far too busy attending to the numerous demands on his time by Kimberly, the sex dole he bought over the web.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 8:05 pm
I do actually Jarrah. A critique of the type of person currently in power and running policy. Given how high feelings are on this issue, the comment is justified.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 8:07 pm
Strong contender for the leftoid nutter of the week, run on the ABC of course.
Poor Old Rafe
23 Aug 12 at 8:09 pm
Counting bitches! You couldn’t make it up. A bid for leftoid of the week perhaps?
Poor Old Rafe
23 Aug 12 at 8:11 pm
And for example we’ve had clowns show up here actually trying to sell the idea that the subsidy whores (solar and wind) are efficient energy production methods.
Fuck me we’ve seen it all.
That’s why Fisk is right. The Left have nothing to offer any discussion other than lies, stupidity and deceit.
Fuck’em.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 8:12 pm
You just had to say “letoid nutter of the week” didn;t you, Rafe? And then look what pops up.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 8:12 pm
Lizzie, that makes you a soulmate of ShitFerBrains!
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:12 pm
Most on the right don’t give a ratsrase about that descriptor, Enfeebled, you moronic twat. It’s way past it’s use-by date to even raise an eyebrow.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 8:14 pm
W.A. Inc, Gillard’s W.A. slush fund, and a Russian just walks into Gillard’s blusterfest to give her a document that he also gave a W.A. Liberal Minister and one other…and then just walks out?!
Now you know it isn’t too much of a stretch that the blusterfest was actually called to justify providing security for those documents to be delivered.
I’ve heard the Russian’s and W.A Minister’s names mentioned on radio, but can’t find them written anywhere. Anyone here not handicapped with a p.c. that’s trying to die, who can find and post more details about this latest, bizarre “security breach”, like the names who delivered and who received these documents?
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 8:16 pm
I read the transcript.
I think she lies anywhere she can get away with it.
I wonder what Hedley, da News Ltd misogynist has for us tomorrow?
Or shall he remain silent for a day or two?
and what of Peter Faris?
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 8:16 pm
“Not news that rightards are misogynists”
Febro, does that mean that “conservative” women are misogynists too? that’s a puzzling idea
candy
23 Aug 12 at 8:16 pm
Ah, The Green scum is back!!!
Not satisfied with The Drum, Fungus? Our money was used to create it just for you, you slimey cocksucking creep.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:17 pm
Not a compliment Tom, but I can cope.
So can a genuine feminism, which is multi-variate and extremely interesting and sexy and good for our bodies and our men and our children.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 8:17 pm
Lastly… Enfeebled and the other subterranean leftists hanging around here. Why the fuck are you here or even read the Cat if it offends you so much.
As they say in the classics, fuck off out of here, don’t come back and don’t read it.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 8:20 pm
Look, picking out offensive misogyny from here that is then covered up as “irony” is like shooting fish in a barrel (and one with no water but just chock full of fish), but the misogyny does not even have to involve sweary words.
Here’s one of my comments from March, headed by CL’s opening comment on a news story about Sarah Fluke having a rich boyfriend:
Of course, you’ll notice that when it’s a young male, about the same age as Fluke, having his photos of nude hugs of some (hired? who knows) woman in Vegas splashed all over the net, he’s a legend.
I know, CL is perhaps a special example, of a 1950′s Catholic man trapped in the body of a 40 year old, but really, his sincere stupid comments about women (again – only if they are on the Left) rarely attract the attention of his half sister or any other female.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 8:23 pm
As does anyone who makes the mistake of reading your drivel febbie.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 8:25 pm
CBS Airs Shocking, Must-See Video About Mitt Romney
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 8:25 pm
You clueless clown! The Oz has been the Austyralian newspaper business’s star performer for the ast five years, the only paper in the country to halt its circulation slide and, in fact, grow it at times, by offering readers an escape from Green Occupy Fairfax, which has become a series of propaganda rags.
If you’re going to open your stupid fucking mouth, make the effort to know what you’re talking about.
Now fuck off back to your ghetto.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:28 pm
Heh.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 8:29 pm
Just got a text photo from a friend of my son, he’s an apprentice(2nd year), been working night shift for BMA at a big coal port.
“$50 an hour and fishing” is the caption.
Union protected shithead thief.
Jumpnmcar
23 Aug 12 at 8:30 pm
LOL.
No dinner-time duties at home, Steve?
That’s curious.
But thanks for the laugh. Yesterday you compared Prince Harry to an NRL gang rapist and today you’re saying he’s actually exactly like a female Democrat Party boiler demanding free contraception.
You’re notorious for stalking female commenters, once said you wanted to physically assault Gab, desribed hospitalised death threat victim Kathy Jackson as an “attention seeker” and spent at least a fortnight attacking the sexual morals of Mrs Santorum.
You’re a morally ill person, Steve – you know that.
C.L.
23 Aug 12 at 8:30 pm
The Age and the SMH vastly outsell The Australian, foul mouth Tom.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 8:31 pm
What was the document the Lying Slapper was handed?
Winston Smith
23 Aug 12 at 8:32 pm
So fuckface, your own offensive remark about CL’s religion etc should be ignored in your missive about CL’s alleged offensive remark about the leftist tart wanting free rubbers.
You fucking clown, Stepford.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 8:32 pm
Wish it was her marching orders, Winston.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 8:34 pm
You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about, ShitFerBrains. Because you are unable to learn, you are unable to take in an explanation of the structure of the Australian media landscape — e.g. the Oz is one of the few papers in the world that does not have a hometown, you fucking idiot.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:36 pm
Here’s Shitfer preparing for another night of blogging.
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 8:37 pm
Even when ShitferBrains shoots himself in the foot, he misses and gets the other foot!
Winston Smith
23 Aug 12 at 8:39 pm
Looks like S0B has the vapours again. Go have another lie down dear and they’ll go away.
Token
23 Aug 12 at 8:40 pm
Fungus, you have even less idea of what’s going on in the media than ShitFerBrains.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:41 pm
Here’s the Green Fungus solution to everything: magic government money!!!
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 8:44 pm
Really? Prove it or you’re just full of crap.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 8:47 pm
Extreme leftist Brit George Galloway:
It’s okay tho’ – he doesn’t have real sick beliefs like Todd Akin.
The woman can abort the ensuing baby.
Indeed she should.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 8:48 pm
And yours Steve. Count me out for both of you. I have better things to do.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 8:50 pm
The document was titled “How could this happen?”.
Delivered to her hand by a Russian Migration Agent, who just walked in and out, without needing to breach any security (that was supposed to be tight in the areas he entered), and also to a W.A. Minister and one other.
“I’ve been trying to contact the police but haven’t received any response,” the unidentified man said.
The man said he had also contacted ASIO and written to MPs about “foreign intelligence threats”.
Protester slips past Gillard’s security
true lilly
23 Aug 12 at 9:01 pm
This matter of circulation has been discussed here before, Gab. As I am feeling generous, I won’t even have a go at you being lazy before I provide the link.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:05 pm
Because we’re in the presence of congenital leftwing liars, here are circulation figures for The Australian and Fairfax. The Australian is the only paper in Australia and one of the few in the world gaining circulation and is one of the few newspapers that doesn’t have a hometown advantage. It is the only Australian broadsheet that has maintained professional standards, which have been eroded at Fairfax by cost-cutting. The Oz’s weekday circulation is about 133,000 compared with the Age and SMH at about 160,000 each — and collapsing — because they’re competing with the ABC for the unemployed Occupy market.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 9:06 pm
Circulation is as circulation does. Everywhere I go I find freebie copies of the SMH and Age. Rare to find one of The Oz. Any that there are get snatched up pretty quickly too, whereas piles of the other two lie around littering up the place.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 9:09 pm
So, you’re saying you agree with me that the Age and SMH vastly outsell the Australia, Tom. Thanks.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:10 pm
Well yes. 180,960 & 185,061 to 127,942 (march average)
If you looked at Syd/Melb News Ltd, though it’d be 336,348 & 469,377.
We really should compare Faifax’s national daily with News’ national daily.
lotocoti
23 Aug 12 at 9:11 pm
Lizzie, Fairfax claims News Ltd diddles the figures with giveaways too:
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:14 pm
Nothing in your link proves the Australian is outsold by the the SMH and the Age, SFB.
Also, I was directing my request to that slimy green febro as I saw he made the stupid statement.
Also, I’m not being lazy, you stupid prick. It is etiquette to provide back-up for one’s assertions/outrageous claims. Something you are incapable of understanding as, quite frankly, you are very dumb and uneducated.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:15 pm
You are dull, stupid idiot, ShitFer. As I said, I’ve never know someone so unable to learn.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 9:16 pm
StevieLiar! did you get your shot? Your man needs a cup of tea. Make it. Then go off and dream about Sandra Fluke and what could have been.
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 9:17 pm
Leftoids cherry picking the data again. What a surprise (not)
On any rational comparison you would have to put the Oz against the Fin Review (Oz wins), the Age against the Herald-Sun (the Hun wins) and the SMH against the Telegraph (Tele wins)
Seeing a pattern here? I am. Buy News Ltd, not FauxFacts
Cato the Elder
23 Aug 12 at 9:18 pm
Stepford, you moron.. you’re comparing applies with oranges.
You’re suggesting that because ford sells more cars they have to be better than BMWs. WTF?
The OZ is not really competing for(increasingly) the inner city living public sector working, Greens voting bumpkin egghead that Fairfax is forced to scurry for. In fact after Feb. next year the Oz will be the only highbrow broadsheet left while the two Fairfax sunken mastheads will be competing with News Ltd’s tabloids.
Now fuckoff.
JC
23 Aug 12 at 9:19 pm
Steve, to respond to you is against my better judgement and stated intention, but I have worked around the traps of media enough to know that circulation figures are amongst the most dodgy figures ever known to humankind. So Fairfax would say that, wouldn’t they? I go on what I see, which is piles of unread Age and SMH and no freebie Oz to be found.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 9:19 pm
My parting shot for the night is this:
The best way to get workplace reform is to elect my boyfriend.
It just takes the biscuit for all the lies spouted today. The statement has zero credibility to anyone except people who wish it to be true.
Not even a child would fall for that dirge.
brc
23 Aug 12 at 9:23 pm
Oh dear. Gab, are you feeling alright? I fear you have caught Liar! Disease from JamesK.
It’s the only explanation for the irrationality just expressed.
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:25 pm
Nice touch with the red shoulder-padded jacket too, Gillard Even though it looks dreadful against her skin tone and hair, someone is aware of colours and the subtle message.
All up, a well rehearsed academy-winning performance. Of no substance.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:27 pm
I didn’t get irritated with stupid people like you, SFB. I pity you.
And you still have not proved your point re sales.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:28 pm
lol Bolt explains…
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm
The Daily Telegraph outsells both the Age and the SMH put together.
Now lets look at the figures of Fairfax’s national broadsheet…oh that’s right they don’t have one.
What would your point be?
twostix
23 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm
‘lol Bolt explains…’
“I salute John McTernan, Gillard’s media director. A masterpiece.”
bit over the top?
candy
23 Aug 12 at 9:37 pm
Ah. The new standard of proof: beyond “beyond reasonable doubt”; it’s now “Well I’m still not satisfied, and I’m Gab.”
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:38 pm
I think he was impressed by McTernan’s strategy, candy. Which was good when you look dispassionately at the various elements of her performance. But Bolt does go on to explain that the substance of her performance – her answers – left much to be desired.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:40 pm
SFB is playing his old stock standard weaseling out of proving his point game. Boring.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:41 pm
You’re an irretrievable idiot, ShitFer. Go to bed. Or write a blog in that other lonely cyberspace you inhabit that no-one reads, to wit:
You dumb fuck.
Tom
23 Aug 12 at 9:44 pm
Be really afraid – we should use gene technology to create ‘ethical’ babies.
Winston Smith
23 Aug 12 at 9:47 pm
LOl – liar believes the circulation fugues reported by Fauxfacts on which the their ‘rivers (now trickle) of gold’ depend.
liar-steve® would polish any turd and offer/swallow it as a delicacy if he imagined it helped one of his latest dear leaders
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:50 pm
Gab, I’ve provided you with numbers, as have others. I made a simple statement which is clearly correct.
You seem to be suggesting that it can’t be right, because maybe the SMH and Age give away 50,000 or so copies of their paper each and every week day. This seems, shall we say, improbable.
No, the appropriate response, if you want to maintain any credibility whatsoever is: “oh, I hadn’t realised that.” And then come up with whatever other point about other News Ltd papers you want to.
OK?
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 9:54 pm
I think so Candy. There was an air of desperation about her that didn’t assist her at all in my view. Certainly she played the minor glitch in the Oz up very well, and got away with it where she should have been quickly brought to heel. The rest of it was just dissembling; same old naive and misunderstood little me, and if new information comes out about the conveyancing when she has claimed she did nothing more she is really toast.
She also cannot just declare that this is her answer and from now on it is end of story. It is not. Parliament is where she needs to be questioned and where she needs to locate her truthful replies: into Hansard.
Interesting that Chris Uhlmann didn’t give her an easy ride out of strife on 7.30 tonight in his round up. Protecting his reputation, I suspect. Leigh Sales doesn’t seem to mind too much about hers.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 9:54 pm
Since the doomlord, in his wisdom and omnipotence, will not ban those who continually devalue this blog by appearing every day, ad nauseum, with their try-ons, distracting you all with their blatantly deceptive talking points, and since abuse, while satisfying in the short term and approved of by the said doomlord, has not proven to be an effective remedy, I call upon you all to stop addressing the following, who are just jerking off in their own minds with the pleasure of being pests: SfB, Monty, Febro, Hammygar, and any others you care to deem of similar worthlessness.It’s an old adage, and I too have been guilty of not following it: don’t feed the trolls.
I have seen more than enough to know that they don’t have anything to offer except vexatious clutter. They keep doing it because it works. They should be given no soapbox here, nor should they derail threads, which seems to be their only purpose in life. If they have talent, their own blogs will become popular. (guffaw!)
blogstrop
23 Aug 12 at 9:55 pm
Video: Obama Says He’s ‘Pro-Choice’ on Third-Trimester Abortions
During a 2003 press conference, Barack Obama indicated that he thought abortion should be legal in all situations, even late in pregnancy
The Washington Post reports that President Obama is running his reelection campaign as a “culture warrior,” trying to cast his opponents as extremists on such issues as abortion in the case of rape and requiring religious institutions to pay for contraception
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 9:56 pm
and I’ve already said your link did not prove your stupid assertion.
I didn’t bother reading the rest of the crap you spat at the page.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 9:57 pm
Another Greenscam bites the dust and takes the taxpayers for a ride.
There’s one born every minute…
Winston Smith
23 Aug 12 at 10:02 pm
Sensible words Blogstrop. We should have warning signs come up every so often, like they have in outdoor restaurants about birds: do not feed the trolls.
To avoid the possibility I am off to have a bubble bath, and Da Hairy Ape can come in and scrub the bubbles off my back.
Feminism, you see. Guys doing nice helpful things for girls.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 10:03 pm
Once again, it’s a case of horse, water, etc.
Care for a carrot, Gab?
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:04 pm
There is no better show on TV than Operation Repo and no better sort than Sonia.
Pickles
23 Aug 12 at 10:04 pm
sfb: would this be a “highly mannered way of chatting about yourself”?
What a hypocritical wanker..
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 10:07 pm
Thanks Gab at 7.07. A great resource. I heard The PM say this today. Who, I wonder, could she be referring to?
SteveC
23 Aug 12 at 10:07 pm
Michelle Obama has Biden’s disease:
The election is November 6.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 10:08 pm
The academic behind this thought bubble is editor-in-chief of the Journal of Medical Ethics, the one that published a paper advocating post-natal abortion. Savulescu is a fellow-traveller of Peter Singer and similar Green-slime.
Cold-Hands
23 Aug 12 at 10:09 pm
Ok free a little earlier than I though. First this:
Raifki, blow it out your arse.
My ‘jibe’ is a well known maxim amongst practicing lawyers. It broadly is akin to the US expression ‘the view from the cheap seats” or the reference to having ‘skin in the game’. It also is a ward against the effect of San Sebastian ie if you haven’t paid for the advice, rely upon it at your own peril.
As for getting up the nose of Judges that is just righteous preening: ‘Oh look at me I stand up for the oppressed’. I can’t comment on your performance but self regarding types usually get up the nose of the Judge because of their bumbling or time wasting even when they have a point, actually especially when they have a point. Not because the judges are against the ‘little guy’ but because an experienced practitioner would have done the job in a tenth of the time and everyone else could be getting on with more productive work.
Just Another bloody Lawyer
23 Aug 12 at 10:12 pm
For you StevieLiar it’s a case of horse, water, buttplug, Tony’s penis, Sandra’s condoms, genital warts and your love for the ALP.
Tiny Dancer
23 Aug 12 at 10:12 pm
Is Shitfer blogging about his masturbatory mastery again?
Infidel Tiger
23 Aug 12 at 10:13 pm
Fake hate crimes.
Loser.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 10:13 pm
.Steve, Gab either can’t read or can’t add up (or perhaps both), I’ve noticed that before. There’s not much point in providing links with actual numbers in them.
SteveC
23 Aug 12 at 10:18 pm
It’s good to see the great art of articulate debate on the Cat was not lost while I was away.
SteveC
23 Aug 12 at 10:21 pm
You’re as wrong as your namesake, stevec, unsurprisingly.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 10:23 pm
Calm down Gab and apply the Blogstrop doctrine.
Cato the Elder
23 Aug 12 at 10:24 pm
There is so much to despise in this story: the clueless thief; the effort to convince the cops to do their job; or the inability of the magistrate to tell the inane defense to take his line of argument and stick it in his orifice. From the Canberra times, naturally.
Entropy
23 Aug 12 at 10:25 pm
“I think all of this comes in general under the term of ‘fair comment’.”
I’m surprised that is how you perceive the words, but it’s all subjective so I’m not going to argue. However, it does mean you can’t possibly claim that anything Steve has written is anything less than “fair comment”, considering how incredibly tame his comments are compared to that mouth-frothing tirade I quoted.
“who were those comments from Jarrah?”
I think Mk50, Infidel, and Winston, but that’s from memory, don’t quote me.
“Jarrah, what upsets you about use of the word ‘bitch’?”
I’m not upset. It was just the first word that occurred to me to look for as evidence that Lizzie’s contention – that the sometimes deliberate denigration of women on Catallaxy is “mannered and ironic” – is laughable nonsense.
Jarrah
23 Aug 12 at 10:26 pm
Dot our Prime Minister’s prospects are a complicated question. In short I would not be betting the farm that she will face the business end of an indictment over her “Days of being Young & Naive”.
I will develop my views when and if I get the urge to post on it. Now before Monty & SFB orgasm themselves to death this doesn’t mean that YN did no wrong but simply that the prospects of a case being assembled sufficient to be taken to a jury is highly unlikely.
Ok, first I think you can forget about a conspiracy charge. Conspiracy is a bugger of a charge. It is very hard case to make to a jury. In my jurisdiction it has been about twenty years or more since any serious conspiracy charge has been brought. The view of the office of the DPP has been either charge the underlying offense or charge an attempt or don’t bother.
The registration of the association itself was probably irregular or might amount to a summary offence. It is important to remember that generally speaking there are no time limits to bringing indictable offences there most certainly are for summary offences, so even if YN did commit such an offence time has likely long since run.
Now since we have the ALP attack dogs out and about on this issue I will stress that this represents my private views on the matter and this is not intended as legal advice to be acted upon by any person.
Just Another bloody Lawyer
23 Aug 12 at 10:27 pm
SteveC, good to see you back. Please take over telling these people they are wrong, embarrassing the former credible name of the Right in Australia, and routinely offensive to boot, while I go find some material for my quality blog?
steve from brisbane
23 Aug 12 at 10:28 pm
Cato?? I’m calm. Takes a lot more than those 2 little hogworts to rattle me.
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 10:28 pm
Judith has a good column (cutting and humourous) about the FWA:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/list-of-howlers-a-sad-indictment-of-umpires-integrity/story-fnbkvnk7-1226456128990
Gab
23 Aug 12 at 10:36 pm
You may have the gift of your namesake, Gab, but you still either can’t read or can’t add up. Here, let me help you, from sfb’s link:
The Oz – lines 1 and 2 of the Table on Page 4
SMH – lines 1 and 2 of the first table on page 5
Age – lines 4 and 5 of the second table on page 5
SteveC
23 Aug 12 at 10:37 pm
There’s no point sfb. The PM put it well:
And, well, in terms of people who continue to circulate these claims, will the misogynists
and the nut jobs on the Internet continue to circulate them? Yes, they will, and it wouldn’t matter what I said and
it wouldn’t matter what documents were produced and it wouldn’t matter what anybody else said; they will pursue
this claim for motivations of their own which are malicious and not in any way associated with the facts.
You can substitute “this claim” with a large variety of talking points pursued here.
SteveC
23 Aug 12 at 10:42 pm
Just one observation for both the non-lawyers and those lawyers who do not practice in crime. There is a distinction you learn very quickly in crime, which is the difference between what I like to refer as the Public Bar test and evidence. In the Pub we all like to hold forth about what we ‘know’, in Court we are solely concerned with we can prove.
Just keep in mind that on what is out in the public arena you may (quite reasonably) form the opinion that YN & the rest of the cast of the Mob Family formerly known as the ALP are shady, that does not automatically translate to an ability to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. That’s what Royal Commissions are for!
Just Another bloody Lawyer
23 Aug 12 at 10:43 pm
Quite so JABL.
If we allow Ms Gillard to frame this as a prosecution and insist on a criminal standard of proof, then she wins. The likelihood of a prosecution, let alone a conviction, is bugger all.
Ms Gillard wants to be able to say “look, no charges, no conviction, all is good”.
All is not good.
Previous posters here (JC maybe?) have suggested that her defence amounts to “I am an incompetent idiot”. Quite.
The proper standard to be applied is political, not criminal. The court of public opinion has a lesser standard of proof and is more likely to convict.
And a bloody good thing too.
Cato the Elder
23 Aug 12 at 10:45 pm
with what we can prove. FGS PIMF
Just Another bloody Lawyer
23 Aug 12 at 10:46 pm
She hasn’t produced any documents. But others are about to fix that, with facts.
Lazlo
23 Aug 12 at 11:06 pm
Jarrah, last check in before bed. Bubble bath very restorative, by the way.
Steve from Brisbane makes ‘fair comment’ on his terms if you wish, I’ll grant that. It is what his comments say that is the point at issue. In terms of the views of people on this blog, Steve spouts forth nonsense. He gets ‘fair comment’ back in return. You’ve granted the subjective nature of perceptions of linguistic intent and choice of metaphor. Give up now. I don’t accept that ‘mannered and ironic’ as a mode of analysis of the use of language is ‘nonsense’, and let us recall too that it was SfB who introduced the concept of ‘mannered’ in a denigratory comment concerning my contributions to this blog.
I respect your comments more than those of other trolls, but you are still trolling, so I will apply the Blogstop Doctrine; will anyway, as I am heading for the arms of Morpheus right now. Dang metaphors, they’re everywhere aren’t they?
In another life I would have opted to be a linguist.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 11:07 pm
Da Ape says who is Morpheus and can he have a word with him, outside.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
23 Aug 12 at 11:11 pm
Oirish Morpheus:
Sure ya tayk da blue pill, da story ends, ya wayk up in your bed and believe whatever ya wanta believe. Ya tayk da red pill, ya stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
JamesK
23 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm
The Mad Monk reference isn’t even original.
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm
Still punting that Mc Clelland will be the next ALP Prime Minister. He may have to be the second next one, after Rudd loses to Abbot, and he becomes opposition leaders and framing himself as a reforming leader who took out the trash.
.
23 Aug 12 at 11:37 pm
Origin boss on ABC just said green schemes add around $300 to average energy bill in NSW. Half carbon tax, rest combination of RET and other green schemes. Also says RET is effectively 25% instead of 20% because it was set prior to GFC when demand was higher.
Brc
23 Aug 12 at 11:37 pm
I don’t remember ever calling someone a ‘bitch’, Jarrah.
Try again or give me a link.
Winston Smith
24 Aug 12 at 12:13 am
Now about that slush fund..
by Hedley Thomas.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 12:15 am
SteveC. Pointless to the end. How are the States and China going on their promises? You know, the promises you gave a lot of weight. You know, the ones that were going to back Gillard and show us how mighty she was. You talk as much shit as StevieLiar, the retard who can’t stop typing. Anytime you come to a persons aid they need to have a shower.
StevieLiar. Time to go to bed. You need to get up,early in the morning to comment on a non story. Cockhead.
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 12:18 am
Confirmed. Gillard and Conroy will punish the media [i.e. News Ltd] via reforms that will be shaped by Julia Gillard’s personal dispute with the press over coverage of her past and criticism of the Gillard government in general.
Say bye-bye free press.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 12:20 am
I can only assume that Gab can interpret a denial as a confirmation, and speculation that the main cabinet figures don’t favour the Finkelstein model as meaning they do.
Have you had enough sleep lately, G?
Steve from Brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 12:33 am
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 12:36 am
Par for the course for the liars party StevieLiar. Numb nuts.
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 12:40 am
Ah, it was a Gabian trap, or something. Never mind that the article speculates on several key figures not favoring Finkelstein’s model.
Steve from Brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 12:43 am
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 12:46 am
“Kon” the Greek builder, (aka Con of “hideous” fence fame) doesn’t shed much light on the situation:
well, no, it doesn’t “clear the air”. All we now know is Gillard handed him two bank cheques but still unknown is the account the cheques were drawn against.
Recall that Con/Kon first went to the AWU “looking for payment for the account” but was sent away “by the AWU” and “and without explanation an account from Con was put in my letter box last week, so that’s the first account that I’ve had from him.”
Is this what caused the AWU to become suspicious?
Why did Con/Kon first go to the AWU seeking payment for Gillard’s fence/windows?
Why did Gillard require an “explanation” from Con for dropping off the invoice in her letter box?
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 2:10 am
Good work Gab
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 2:21 am
JC
24 Aug 12 at 2:31 am
Oh, my.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 5:15 am
Also: 670th!!!!!
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 5:19 am
Romney goes there… “Bless his heart.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 6:00 am
The green schemes need to be mercilessly stripped out of electricity and everything else. They are a perversion, just like their devious and deluded sponsors in the green left animal farmyard.
Blogstrop
24 Aug 12 at 6:25 am
“oh, my!”
Did he take his beloved wife to an eatery with unflued gas heaters? The beast! It can’t be a green left hangout with such dangerous emissions spewing forth and poisoning the populace.
Sarc off.
Blogstrop
24 Aug 12 at 6:30 am
The left’s Rupert Murdoch fantasy to become a David Williamson play for the Melbourne Theatre Company:
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 7:09 am
Who’d have thunk? Pissant South American country run by a leftwing dictator cold-shouldered by Britain over Assange:
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 7:17 am
Maybe they got a passel of “carbon offsets” [sic] for their wedding, Bloggy, so they can carbon-sin like that and not worry….
I didn’t even know where they’d got to (I don’t follow him on Twitter) until someone mentioned that Crikey gave him and his BoltBlairWatch Blog Mk. V or whatever the boot and he and his lovely missus are now living in Wagga, bravely taking on the REALLY big guys like this lovely young lady reporter at the Wagga Daily Advertiser. I know, right?
This husband-wife pile-on against young Kree Nash by Mr & Mrs Wally J is really one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen.
Once upon a time they were going to bring down Andrew Bolt, Tim Blair, and probably the whole Murdoch empire. Now they’re down to monstering sweet young things at the Wagga Daily Advertiser.
Bless their hearts.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 7:20 am
CONFIRMED: Rupert Murdoch lives in an inordinate number of Lefty brains.
Rent-free.
If that isn’t beautiful I don’t know what is.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 7:27 am
Spot, new Twitter accounts should generate a mental health warning: “Trolling leftist brain-damage victims have control fantasies about this communications device!”
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 7:34 am
Spot oh how the mighty have fallen
Tal
24 Aug 12 at 7:40 am
John Faine explains how union lawyers do not have no responsibility for the enabling fraud, if they are smart enough to create enough plausible deniability.
Remember people, to the left it is only a crime if you get caught.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 8:01 am
Tom & Tal: Yes.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 8:03 am
Whoops, that comes from Cut & Paste, so while we’re at it here is the next question from the admirable Uhlmann.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 8:05 am
Spot, I just sent that kid an email of support. Like her, I started my career in the bush. Oh, irony of ironies: she’s a UC grad and therefore probably a former student of Finkelstein fascist Matthew Ricketson.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 8:09 am
I would laugh, but I can see a study showing up telling us the hazards of twitter to the mental health of the weak – due to Da Murdoch brain ownership syndrome.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 8:10 am
So getting back to the Prime Liar, she admitted to setting up a slush fund, a term that has no legal definition, but the worst kinds of connotations in voter land. She assembled a press conference about asylum seekers, and then took it over to defend her scandalous behaviour to appear unscripted and ad lib, and her audience was the laughably light weight, politically correct, doctrinaire Canberra press gallery. And her reason for doing so was to respond to one “nutty blogger”.
This morning she is being lauded as being prime ministerial. Laughable.
Imagine if a liberal PM got up and said they’d set up a shell company for someone to avoid paying worker entitlements. What would the press be saying right now ?
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 8:15 am
Eat up sweetheart. Your choice.
On a more positive note, and as Julia has also shown, true love is blind, isn’t it? Nice to see, in the Wagga iteration. I wish this loving chap and his wife all the best, in a life outside politics. I’m never one to begrudge, or refuse credit where it is due. Have to admire a man who remembers anniversaries and a woman who’s definitely doing it for her man.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 8:16 am
Fran Kelly let slip a real pearler this morning.
During a long segment on “the” press conference yesterday, and in the context of so much chatter about Tony Abbott not reading things, she said she hadn’t seen the PM’s press conference! Amazing.
The ABC loved Lisa of Channel 9 giving Tony a hard time this morning – so much they re-ran it on radio again and again. What is it about “commercial” TV that makes them so similar to the ABC in political commentary? Same school of journalism I guess.
blogstrop
24 Aug 12 at 8:22 am
Good on you. Did you see how she replied to Wally all polite & respectful like, then he and the missus just piled on? Good freaking grief!
At least she did the right thing then by not letting herself react, therefore leaving them barking and slavering into the wind like rabid pig-dogs.
Kree 100; Jezza & the Kedge -5.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 8:24 am
No, no, of course you aren’t, you disgusting, inadequate ol’ marxist hypocrite.
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 8:26 am
You describe the gap between the Canberra/Media insider class and the rest of society well Keith.
This looks like another carbin tax / illegal immigrant issue.
Seriously, ask people you meet this weekend if they think it is a triumph that the PM set up slush funds for union crooks to divert money (and it looks like some money from the WA state government).
Token
24 Aug 12 at 8:30 am
Hopefully this endless pounding has taught Abbott that the insider class will never treat him with anything but disdain.
It is better for the country if he does not fall into the Malcolm (Fraser & Turnbull) trap of trying to get love from that crowd.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 8:33 am
By geez that bank cheque Gillard used sounds dodgy.
Outside of a car loan, mortgage or business transaction (presumably loans most of the time), who has ever paid for personal expenses with a bank cheque?
.
24 Aug 12 at 8:36 am
If I could be so impertinent as to plagiarise you, Rabz, after yesterday’s $2.7 billion loss driven by writedowns. FauxFacts death watch as Gina sells down.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 8:37 am
Err, Lizzie, do you actually know anything about wally sear?
He’s one of the most loathsome, parodic lefty losers on the face of this earth.
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 8:38 am
Abbot needs to to own Swan on economics in Parliament for as long as possible, then get his revenge on the media commentators.
Otherwise I’ll think he’s complicit in the ALP 2013 election strategy.
.
24 Aug 12 at 8:40 am
Tommy,
Thanks, that has made my week! I was waiting for the effect of the write down to kick in on the share price.
That’s a beeeyooodifull set of numbers…
And this:
Hey suckers! What am I bid for these freshly laid dog turds?!?!
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 8:42 am
Maybe someone has raised this … but, might Gillard be asked: You say your were betrayed by your boyfriend Wilson – did it never occur to you that a man who would leave his wife and 2 kids IN WA might be someone who was untrustworthy?
And another: Having been betrayed by one married man who went back to the wife, did you hesitate to begin a sexual and social relationship with Craig Emerson?
It is time for a conservative womens’ group to begin to attack Gillard about her disrespect for families. We can’t win if we fight with one hand tied behind our back.
rafiki
24 Aug 12 at 8:43 am
Fuck me that Jeremy Sear is a wanker.
Why can’t we get lefties who are real men that do real work like Ben Chiefly? Not some fuckwit dropouts with a bad haircut, or loathsome “human rights lawyers” that do nothing but participate in enforcing anti free speech laws?
.
24 Aug 12 at 8:47 am
Looks like the market doesn’t value that “charter of
independenceleftism detirmination to destroy a going concern” as much as the Lefties tell them they should.Hey, seeing the price is cheap, seeing the journo’s value that charter so much, do you think they’ll put their money where their mouths are at and their pool their super and get those bargin price shares?
Token
24 Aug 12 at 8:51 am
Yes Token, and it’s not going away, however much the Liar’s party, and media apologists wish it would.
Gillard’s “once only” declaration has guaranteed her future embarrassment when it continues to get raised and she remains silent.
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 8:52 am
Tim Blair called Wally The Bargin Basement Barrister
Tal
24 Aug 12 at 8:59 am
You are correct, this is a legitimate question, and correct women msut present it to fend of the sexist crap that gets thrown around.
Do we have women tough and brave enough to do it? [Bronwyn Bishop aside]
Michelle Devine has noted how vicious and personal the women on the left get as they attack in massive packs any conservative woman that stands up for any matter.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 9:01 am
The Libs need to accept that Abbott will never get a fair go from the zombie media because almost of all of them personally hate him. So don’t suck up to the intellectually disabled from failing minority newspapers and the government media who don’t have the brain cells to analyse his work dispassionately. Never forget: they do not represent the voters of middle Australia.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 9:01 am
Oh dear.
Lobodomy pardee super hero, Hypertension Man, in today’s Oz:
These people are insane.
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 9:02 am
“It is time for a conservative womens’ group to begin to attack Gillard about her disrespect for families. We can’t win if we fight with one hand tied behind our back.”
I’ve tried to post it on ABolt, very politely worded, but they won’t post it.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 9:02 am
Toke, Freudian slip: don’t confuse Miranda Devine with Michelle Grattan.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 9:05 am
Rabz, don’t know much, I’ll take your word for what he’s like and agree that his (their?) chasing of the young beauty is despicable – What I said dependent on them being out of politics. Purely in relation to his marital life.
What should I say? She’s butt-ugly and how can he face her in the morning?
I’m better than that, I hope.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 9:06 am
… was dependent
OK Ape, I am coming to do your shirt. Dry cleaners today.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 9:07 am
Leftoids across the nation will be claiming victory over Rinehart. Rinehart offsets this capital loss against other capital gains – result : less capital gains tax, and their beloved media organ sinks below break up value. Way to win lefties.
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 9:08 am
Indeed you are.
I’m just enjoying the schadenfreude – wally sear, self flagellator, cat pleasurer, epic beta male embarrassment, utterly useless barrasite, dumpee and now resident of wagga wagga along with his well upholstered new ‘squeeze’.
Life’s just grand.
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 9:13 am
From that Cut & Paste bit :
I wonder what that bold bit is all about?
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 9:14 am
He’s a known bully, Lizzie. More. More.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 9:17 am
The Sear’s being happily married is a direct insult to the PM. They should be ashamed.
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 9:19 am
He’s all about the marriage thing these days, Keith. Why recently he appears to have discovered a blog post written last year by a lesbian who’s not all that enamored with the push for the “gay marriage” thing, and he went right off. Actually called her an “Aunty Tom”.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 9:25 am
???
Isn’t he a barrister?
Did he get a gig with legal aid? I can’t imagine a country town has too many “human rights lawyers” in demand.
No one in their right mind would use him in a trial, they’d get a QC from Sydney.
I’ve met crown prosecutors from country towns and they would not have a bar of that fool (nor would most barristers have a bar of the idiot leftists who get onto the bench from a solicitor background).
Jesus Christ. Don’t tell me Fatty O Barrel appointed him as a circuit magistrate?
It could be worse. He might get a job at the cow college, corrupting young minds.
He’s the type of bloke you make ambassador to countries like St Kitts and Nevis, or possibly Sierra Leone.
.
24 Aug 12 at 9:34 am
Beck also not a Sear fan. Three of many:
http://rwdb.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/retard-hypocrite.html
http://rwdb.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/crikey-thats-spin.html
http://rwdb.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/renovated-vaginas-more-important-than.html
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 9:38 am
I just said this on Bolt, Dot. It will be interesting to see if it gets up, from me or anyone else. Here’s my bank cheque for the hopeless renos, Mate.
Dodgy as.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 9:42 am
This Melbourne dentist also not a Wally fan, probably:
Check the sock-puppetry in the comments of that one, too. Classic.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 9:48 am
Yep.
.
24 Aug 12 at 9:49 am
Apropos of anniversaries and the male of the species.
Da Hairy One just off to an important meeting and had to fill in a form, requiring the date of our wedding. He had to check it with me!!! Dat’s right, isn’t it? he asked hopefully (anxiously?). Well, it was in the right month. Ball park, I said.
Thanks for the links about that other ardent lover, sdog. The education of young Lizzie. Continues apace.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 9:58 am
So do we know what was in the information handed to the PM and the WA Liberal yesterday by the unknown man?
brc
24 Aug 12 at 10:00 am
LOL.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 10:03 am
The man is just your regulation nutbag/immigration lawyer – Ben Fordham talked to him last night on 2GB.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 10:05 am
Wow, another huge Forum that takes 4evah to load on my PC and laptop. Time to get out the Kindle Fire
Septimus
24 Aug 12 at 10:08 am
*snort*
(the random blurb at the top of TimT’s blog just now)
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 10:17 am
Another ‘mannered’ (TM by Lizzie, with thanks to SoB) thought for the day:
Apropos:
As my girlfriends say: if it’s on your lips, it’s on your hips.
I think that’s advice the caring guys here have been giving m0nty too.
The Cat: where everyone matters.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 10:23 am
These facts should be put before a jury; having heard the arguments from the prosecution and defense, they and they alone, get to decide whether the fact she was having a personal relationship with BW at the time of her setting up the association and during the commission of his nefarious activities, the fact that she didn’t open a file S&G and thus left her partners ignorant of her actions involving their major client, the fact she paid for some or all of her renovations with bank cheques, and so on, amount to evidence of a guilty mind.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 10:24 am
oops
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 10:26 am
@db I think I can confidently say this will never, ever end up in court with a jury. The most any of us can wish for is a royal commission in a year or two.
brc
24 Aug 12 at 10:29 am
From a friend with a closed/private account on Twitter:
Something I’d been thinking about as well. So what would be the deal with that?
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 10:39 am
ScoopDog: ShitFerBrainsRUs (which has run out of subjects since its latest posts are mostly about food) has two readers: SteveC (who trolls here) and none other than TimT! And, no, I don’t wish to donate any more page views than were required to establish what a pointless existence he leads.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 10:41 am
brc, that is the tragedy of it all.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 10:41 am
So we’ll keep on hoping for that Royal Commission, brc. Truth will out, as they say.
In mannered mode: I told Lovely Irish Eyes last night that I had been getting online insults from SoB.
A Silly Old Bugger? he asked. Absolutely, I confirmed. Swoon, and so to bed.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 10:45 am
Dover,
She may be guilty of a mid sized case of tax evasion.
I’d say she might end up on trial by a judge alone.
.
24 Aug 12 at 10:46 am
Oh bloody hell.
It’s ADMIRAL McRaven, Mr President! Obama botches rank of top Navy SEAL
‘I’d advise that you talk to General McRaven, who’s in charge of our Special Ops. I think he has a point of view in terms of how deeply
I care about what these folks do each and every day to protect our freedom.’
The difficulty with this is that William McRaven is and admiral not a general. As a SEAL, he is member of the US Navy, not US Army or US Marines.
Obama has made mistakes with military terminology before. In February 2010, he mispronounced ‘corpsman’ – as ‘corpse-man’ instead of ‘core-man’ several times.
Last year, he mixed up two Medal of Honor recipients, saying that ‘Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honour to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously’.
In fact, Obama was referring to Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta. Obama had presented a posthumous Medal of Honor to the parents of SFC Monti, who was killed in action in June 2006, in September 2009.
The Medal of Honor is the highest United States award for valour. It’s the equivalent of the Victoria Cross. In the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the names of recipients are seared on the hearts of many Americans.
Some servicemen have criticised Obama for omitting their ranks, as he did with Monti. When Staff Sergeant Giunta received his Medal of Honor, Obama called him ‘Sal’ and ad libbed: ‘I really like this guy’. After hanging the medal around his neck, Obama did not salute him but gave him a hug.
Fucking moron.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 10:47 am
I can’t work out whether or not this letter in The Oz is brilliant sarcasm or real:
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 10:50 am
Erm, I think she’s a zombie, IT.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 10:55 am
Put me down for sarcasm.
lotocoti
24 Aug 12 at 10:59 am
I dunno. She seems a good old stick. She was voted Homemaker of the year in 1988!.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 11:00 am
Oh Babette, Babette, I wish I had written that.
I tips me lid, just as you doff yours.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 11:01 am
“you are still trolling”
I don’t think you know what the word means, Lizzie. I’m not making inflammatory comments with the sole purpose of provoking a reaction. That’s what febro does, what hammygar pretends to do, and what m0nty does occasionally.
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 11:03 am
For what offence? “Being a character d-b doesn’t trust?” It’s not on the criminal code yet.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 11:08 am
OK Jarrah. Welcome back.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 11:08 am
Here is a video of a penguin getting his tummy tickled. You’re welcome!
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:09 am
Could it really be so? Babette’s Feast!
She’s pro-woman, pro-homemaking, pro-life isn’t she?
None of this is likely to make her a Gillard fan.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 11:15 am
I can’t fault Obama for giving a MH recipient a hug. He should have saluted him though. You like the guy? No shit, does does Congress.
Getting air force ranks in different countries is understandable. Ditto for ranks in various service arms that are around OF-7.
But every bloody child over the age of ten knows generals command land based forces and admirals command naval (or space, LOL) based forces.
.
24 Aug 12 at 11:16 am
Conspiracy to commit fraud, receive stolen monies, tax evasion, handle stolen monies…
.
24 Aug 12 at 11:17 am
He’s the Commander-in-Chief, dot. He damn well needs to lift his game.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:18 am
Septimus 23 Aug 12 @ 2.24pm
val majkus 24 Aug 12 @ 10.26am
Septimus
24 Aug 12 at 11:21 am
He also called our Navy corpsmen “corpse-men”. Sounded like something Julia Gillard would say.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:22 am
He’s a civilian too.
He’s a pillock, but I don’t think he’s softening up a dude who has won a MH for the Taliban with a hug.
On reflection but, it should be a more serious.
.
24 Aug 12 at 11:23 am
If this is the best that the Eurocrats can come up with to rally the German taxpayers to write blank cheques in perpetuity to levelise the EU finances – then Le Project may well be staring down the barrel of oblivion.
She may well regret those words about peace and prosperity as Club Med is crushed economically.
Source
Myrrdin Seren
24 Aug 12 at 11:24 am
Agree, you’re trying to get analysis. So it’s not your ‘sole purpose’. Still inflammatory at times though, intentionally so. I don’t mind. Creates interest. SoB is usually sheerly oppositional, a difficult teenager living in a middle-aged man.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 11:24 am
“You’re welcome!”
Sdog,I couldn’t get penguins on that link, just an economics article, that’s nice, but I was hoping for penguins?
candy
24 Aug 12 at 11:25 am
By the looks of this response she seems like a bit of a weapon.
She gives it to the Emily’s Listers nicely:
Writing negatively about Emily Listers and now a sarcastic letter to the Hate media? That’s it, she’s on the list, Judge Finky will have something to say to her.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 11:29 am
Awesome.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:30 am
Sorry, Candy. Go here and click the link, see if that works.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:33 am
Hmm. Another German chancellor said the same thing a while back.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:34 am
Agree Dot. As my old friend the very compus mentis 97 year-old Rear-Admiral put it for me:
The Army has Habits, the Air Force has Ways, but only the Navy has Traditions.
Getting things right is very important.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 11:34 am
“So it’s not your ‘sole purpose’.”
So you admit it’s not trolling. Thank you.
Generally, that word gets thrown around a lot by people who simply don’t like what is being written (see blogstrop and Tom above).
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 11:35 am
Or this: http://favidex.tumblr.com/post/30062758462
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:36 am
“Sorry, Candy. Go here and click the link, see if that works.”
thanks, he’s a gorgeous litle waddling bird.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 11:39 am
what amounts to $12.50 per head, it’s a useless gesture designed to make Palmer look good and Newman not. Palmer needs to seek medical attention.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:46 am
Babette Francis (perhaps was) the wife of (perhaps late?) Charlie Francis, and independent minded QC who represented the Liberals in the Vic Upper House. He was not afraid to take up the cause of the losers in our society. Nor has Babette. Maybe her interventions are a sign she is prepared to take on Gillard on ‘family issues’. Given her ethnicity and colour (I think she’s Indian), she will be harder to denigrate as a ‘nut-job’.
BTW – I wonder if we will hear from the Commonwealth Discrimination Commissioner about the use of ‘nut-job’? If not, then we can act on the basis that this term is now part of current political speech. OTOH, if that person is Graeme Innes, then he might be distracted by the time he is putting into a complaint he made under the legislation he administers – including seeking compensation – because NSW railway employees do not always announce a destination station clearly enough. (I heard him interviewed on the ABC.)
rafiki
24 Aug 12 at 11:51 am
Fauxfacts Forever!
45 cents and plummeting!
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 11:51 am
sdog that is just so adorably cute. Da happy little penguin.
Sound effects can be a bit like that around here occasionally at tickle time.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 11:52 am
Wow, that Mann really wants to provide evidence in court how he lied when he created the world famous hockey stick.
You go for it girlfiend!
Token
24 Aug 12 at 11:56 am
Why doesn’t he offer them all jobs?
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 11:59 am
I see Gillard took the Vinick nuclear option, and you lot have abandoned the story as a consequence. Sorry I missed it.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 12:01 pm
Jarrah, You’re not a troll. The people who come here simply to oppose everything this blog is about are trolls. We are paying millions of dollars per annum to finance The Drum for those tax-eating morons. The least they could do is use it and leave us alone.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 12:01 pm
“You lot”?
Lsst time you used that term, DavidG eviscerated you, Monster. It’s so disrespectful from coming from you.
I only hope DavidG makes intro here and sorts you out.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 12:04 pm
This is all Rinehart’s fault, no doubt.
Abbott put her up to it.
Fleeced
24 Aug 12 at 12:06 pm
And this one, Candy?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EEyQIAemn0&feature=related
Is there nothing the Caped Crusader can’t manage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlusgU-MUZ4&feature=related
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 12:06 pm
lol
JC
24 Aug 12 at 12:07 pm
Monty, it’s tranferred to another thread. Do keep up. Trust you to be impressed by TV-inspired political tactics rather than substance. Now piss off, have a donut and shut up.
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 12:07 pm
or 1/2 dozen.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 12:08 pm
The next bit will be tricky for Gillard and her frothing zombies: how to bail out Fairfax with hundreds of taxpayer millions while simultaneously abolishing press freedom.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 12:09 pm
If you’re going to steal material from The Age you could at least link to the piece you took it from.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 12:10 pm
Monty, is it true that Krispy Kreme opened a drive thru in your lounge room?
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 12:10 pm
Nope. She pulled a Clay Davis.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 12:11 pm
Sadly, Charles Francis QC died a few years ago.
Cold-Hands
24 Aug 12 at 12:16 pm
Tasmania considers cigarette ban for anyone born after 2000
What could possibly go wrong?
It’s really time to give Tasmania its independence, I think.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 12:17 pm
Tom
I can’t remember who it was, but one of our esteemed commenters suggested watch for –
Buy out by NBN to provide ‘content’.
What the mind of man/person can conceive etc etc – you know the rest.
Myrrdin Seren
24 Aug 12 at 12:19 pm
Don’t try to belittle me, Jarrah.
The people who I named (you weren’t one, but SteveC should have been included) are deliberately seeking to disrupt and devalue this place, and as long as they are allowed to by the management they will. End of story.
blogstrop
24 Aug 12 at 12:20 pm
What a scumbag.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 12:21 pm
I just noticed that. Great minds think alike.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 12:26 pm
The Ecuadorian model is clearly their inspiration.
There is one problem regarding regulating the media for them though: Where in the Constitution does it even tangentially grant the federal government the right to “regulate” the written media?
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 12:26 pm
The married men affair thing is not illegal.
Everyone’s better off not touching that aspect of the slapper’s past. Stick with the illegalities, they are what will toast her.
kae
24 Aug 12 at 12:30 pm
Oh no.
“Dog-Shaming”.
Though in a human context, I could see something similar coming into play with the Fisk Doctrine.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 12:33 pm
Wow. High Court quashes Jayant Patel’s convictions.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 12:35 pm
Woo-hoo!
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 12:37 pm
I think the High Court takes special pleasure in quashing Queensland matters.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 12:38 pm
Oops. Sorry, Lizzie. A case of more haste, less speed today. And more carelessness, clearly.
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 12:43 pm
“And this one, Candy?:”
that Batman and Joker surfing scene is just insane!
candy
24 Aug 12 at 12:43 pm
@irishSpy and I have decided that with these two things, the Dems are really on a winner.
#hahahahaha
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 12:44 pm
sdog
I don’t quite understand the strategy with this one. What are they trying to do?
JC
24 Aug 12 at 12:47 pm
Anything but let the focus be put on jobs & the economy.
The DNC in NC is going to be a hoot.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 12:49 pm
Which has 37 comments, compared to the thousands of comments that the issue has had devoted to it up to now on the Cat. Gillard stopped it, dead in its tracks.
Meanwhile, Tony Abbott has followed up his gaffe over not reading the BHP document he went on 7:30 to talk about, by not reading the Gillard transcript he went on Sunrise to talk about.
LOL!
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 12:54 pm
Hilarious. Repelling sharks while hanging 5 all in a day’s crimefighting. Do you like his boardies?
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 12:55 pm
Monty, you need to start learning to pronounce: Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 12:56 pm
Abbott has a lot on his plate, apparently, so he doesn’t even have time to read the transcript of the Gillard presser. Shouldn’t he have been watching it live on Parliament House CCTV? What was he doing instead?
Maybe he was ringing around the backbench shoring up votes for the forthcoming spill due to concerns over the polls.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 12:59 pm
Fuck me. Those filthy Frogs have stripped Armstrong of his Tour titles despite never being found guilty of doping.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 1:00 pm
Actually it was USADA, not the horse eaters.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 1:01 pm
You can have your little snigger monty. Keep following the running sheet from McTernan.
But Abbott and co, despite the pitiful red herrings like ‘sexist’ and ‘tea party’, are being very careful not to get dragged into this one.
They are just biding their time, waiting for the right moment for the no confidence motion.
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 1:02 pm
LOL, two years in and still Abbott hasn’t won a single vote on anything other than minor procedural matters. He hasn’t been able to vote down a single bill. But oh, he’s biding his time says Lazlo. Keep on biding, hahaha.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:04 pm
Fat* lot you’d know. Maybe he was in the business of actually focusing on issues important to this country instead of wailing pathetically in front of a star-struck media about his past:
*not intended as a slight against your physique.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 1:04 pm
Ah, I see monty has finally received labor’s talking points for the day.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 1:05 pm
LOL Gab, as if that would pass the Senate, let alone the Reps. Yet another meaningless stunt by Abbott.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:07 pm
JC, see this at Powerline:
Quite so.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 1:09 pm
If he did nothing, you’d be on your high horse complaining he did nothing. When he does something, you complain about that too. Face it, you’re a tiny minded partisan hack. You complain he has no polices and yet when he talks about them you complain what’s the point.
Monty, the little child who couldn’t.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 1:10 pm
You are not transparent at all, m0nty, and don’t let anyone tell you you are.
Bless your heart.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 1:12 pm
I Fish and I Vote. So do a few million other Australians. Well played Tone.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 1:12 pm
What was he going to do, celebrate the fact that the PM acknowledged her job prior to joining politics was setting up slush funds in names which obscured their purpose to state government regulators?
Crow about the fact the PM force the Australian to acknowledge she set up Slush Funds, not Trush Funds?
Acknowledge the practices of IR lawyers facilitate corruption by union officials?
Hahaha…
Token
24 Aug 12 at 1:14 pm
He’s clearly telling an untruth, monster you ignoramus. He doesn’t want to get involved when the ALP is doing so well by themselves.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 1:15 pm
Much has been made of the fact that failing to open a file left the S&G partners open to litigation and kept them in dangerous ignorance. This is seen as merely unprofessional at best and unethical at worst. No-one seems to have emphasised that failure to open a file guaranteed that secrecy would surround the activities of the Reform Association – a secrecy that was necessary for Wilson et al to use the funds for whatever purposes they wanted. Taken together with the wilful misinformation about the true purpose of the Association and the smell gets even stronger. The rotting body may not yet have been disinterred but most people following this saga are surely holding their noses.
Viva
24 Aug 12 at 1:17 pm
He has done nothing. He has no new policies. Lately he hasn’t even tried to hide the fact that he wants to run exactly the same set of policies that Howard ran – in fact that is his self-confessed sole policy platform. There has been exactly zero policy renewal. Arthur Sinodinos has been warehoused, evidently.
If he had some idea, any idea, of how to fix the problems in Australian society and its economy, he could be given some respect. He has nothing. The public is slowly waking up to that fact.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:18 pm
Thanks for making my point for me but it’s unnecessary. I can do it myself quite well.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 1:19 pm
You’re saying that Abbott is lying for tactical purposes? How can he be trusted with public office if he does that?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:20 pm
Until such time that so much of the truth is revealed about the lying slapper that even the likes of Wilkie and Oakshott can no longer publicly support her…
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 1:21 pm
He’s got lots of policies. You just don’t like them… Like dismantling the NBN.
You don’t like it because it impacts directly on you.
Now fuck off monster.
Jc
24 Aug 12 at 1:21 pm
m0nty is flailing.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 1:23 pm
He s fibbing as he doesn’t want to be directly involved monster. That’s my take.
not all fibbing and lying is the same monster as you know.
Jc
24 Aug 12 at 1:23 pm
There’s a good reason why Obama didn’t salute him.
http://theblacksphere.net/wp-content/uploads/obama-saluting.jpg
boy on a bike
24 Aug 12 at 1:24 pm
No dog, he’s hungry. He always gets this way if he’s not within close proximity to a crsipy cream doughnut or two or three….
Jc
24 Aug 12 at 1:25 pm
LOL, please tell me the difference between fibbing and lying, JC, since you seem to be an expert, possibly even a professional in the skill. Where I come from, you tell the truth or you don’t.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:26 pm
What is wrong with Obama? Why couldn’t he just shake his hand like normal men do?
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 1:26 pm
“He doesn’t want to get involved when the ALP is doing so well by themselves.”
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Napoleon Bonaparte.
You apparently don’t mind being known as her bumboy, Monte. Not especially clever when every state and federal government will be conservative in 18 months’ time.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 1:27 pm
Is this just another example of what Abbott said about not being able to trust things that come out of his mouth, just things that are written down? He has a problem with lying, does Abbott. Bit of a dilemma for voters, that one. Do they want a man for PM who freely admits to being completely untrustworthy with his public pronouncements?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:29 pm
They’ll probably vote him out in 2024 for being a slacker.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 1:29 pm
An hilarious line of defence given that we’re talking about a prime minister who has capitulated to The Australian and admitted she ‘accidentally’ set up an illegal slush fund for a criminal, for which she was subsequently sacked by her bosses who considered her incompetent, sloppy and dodgier than Russ Hinze.
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I’m not quite sure about that, Kae, re Gillard’s track record with married men. One such affair might be put down to human frailty. But we’re talking about a pattern. This goes to character.
There seems to be a deep-seated insecurity in Gillard. She chooses broken married men and oddballs or – most recently – a beta male hairdresser. She seems to be frightened of – and hateful towards – masculine men. Her father was a nurse, I think. Perhaps the ambitious girl longed for a bigger, grander papa but, at the same time, she is drawn to the safe male of a feminised world, to what she knows.
It was very psychologically interesting watching her near crack-up in the House yesterday when somebody asked about South Australia and the BHP Billiton bail-out (which she of course got wrong – predicting the Olympic project was sweet just a few weeks ago). Her voice started to break and she went red in the face as she unleashed on Tony Abbott (?) because she grew up in South Australia and knew well its idiosyncracies and needs. The fixed stare of pathological hatred she directed to Abbott – who is educationally, intellectually, culturally and parentally superior – really seemed to evidence the war within her between the nurse/hairdresser and the footballers, military men and rough-house union mobsters she flirts with in her more sexually and emotionally submissive phases.
She hates Abbott and yet she also wants desperately to be rooted by him.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 1:29 pm
12 points ahead.
12 points ahead for two years.
“The public is waking up”.
Next monday the polls will come out: Still 12 points ahead.
And you’ll still be shilling for the ALP like an empty shell of a man.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 1:31 pm
Sounds like a Brisbane based blogger I know.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 1:31 pm
Perhaps mUnty, like everyone else, he wasn’t aware that the press conference with Chris Bowen would be about the ‘mysogynist smear campaign’??? It seemed to be a deliberate tactic by Gillard to obscure the fact she was going to ‘address’ *cough cough* the issues then so that she could minimise genuine scrutiny. You really think this has gone away? This is the perfect way for Abbott to announce his royal commission into union governance with a broad ranging terms of reference on day one of a Coalition government. You might think she’s won the battle (debatable), but she is setting herself up to lose the war.
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 1:32 pm
Okay, you’re fucking stupid.
Difference:
If Abbott is telling a fib about having read the transcript he would not be up on fraud charges like if the Lying Slapper had told the truth about her real involvement in the Wilson saga.
You really come across as seriously fucking stupid at times, Monst.
Go eat a dozen, monster you offensive fat turd. And go take off 40 kilos.
Yea lol.. where you come from. Like you and “Your lot” have never ever told a fib or a lie in your lives, right Monster? You fat lying deadshit.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 1:33 pm
This matter won’t go away as the people feeding it are people with access to the records. The fact is though Gillard flailed at Abbot, the facts are she is being brought down by people from within Labor.
M0nty is desperate for Abbott to get involved as tragics like him know that is the only way his misery will end.
Once again Abbott shows he is a smart operator as it is clear he is following the advice of Napoleon.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 1:35 pm
Oh lordy. He just can’t get it right:
http://www.risawn.com/2010/01/saluting-youre-doing-it-wrong.html
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=greentree_ff1&va=obama+saluting
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 1:35 pm
The PM’s press conference sounded all very Sir Norman “a part of my person accidentally found it’s was inside his person. And that, as far as I am concerned is the end of the matter” Fry.
Pickles
24 Aug 12 at 1:36 pm
According to the left, it’s a win, masterful “Tour de Force” that Gillard now has these sorts of words associated with her: “slush fund”, “siphon”, “misuse”, “members money” in every news report.
lol.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 1:37 pm
The best thing Abbott can do is sit back and say nothing. Was it Napoleon who said, “Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake”?
boy on a bike
24 Aug 12 at 1:37 pm
DRUDGE-linked: Analysis method right in every election since 1980 predicts Romney/Ryan landlside.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 1:38 pm
I really hope so, CL.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 1:40 pm
Did Abbott tell the truth in your opinion, JC? No? Then he lied.
You’re more abusive than normal JC, you must be under pressure. Take a chill pill, bro.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:40 pm
FFS, ol leatherface is a truly despicable yuman being.
Here is the results of him ingesting what seems to been a large quantity of magic mushrooms and then attempting to compose a piece for the ALPBC’s the dumb.
Incoherent, delusional gibberish.
Remember, your taxes are bankrolling this insanity.
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 1:40 pm
Yes, he possibly did lie, Monster. However his lie didn’t injure anyone and wasn’t instrumental in having firms and union money stolen. I pointed out there are degrees in lying and telling fibs.
You’re peddling the lie that you’ve never told an untruth before…. along with the rest of “your lot”.
Lol.. Fuck off monster.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 1:44 pm
Lol Ol’ leatherface has obviously borrowed Stepford’s military strength knee pads.
He’s a disgusting creature.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 1:47 pm
m0nty, if Abbott came into government on a hard and fast promise that “There Will Be No WorkChoices Under The Government I Lead”, and then almost as soon as he got elected he brought back WorkChoices in its full glory, that would be “lying” … and it still wouldn’t be anything you could complain about, because you’ve excused it in your own girl.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 1:47 pm
-m0nty
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 1:49 pm
CL’s doing psycho-sexual analysis of politicians now? Its accuracy is about as likely as a cat walking across a keyboard composing Beethoven’s 5th.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 1:50 pm
I’ll trust you to read it for me, Rabz. By the way, on a related subject, have you heard that the part of the government media listed on the ASX has lost 12% of its value today. Hahahahahaha!!!
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 1:51 pm
Why should Abbott be fully briefed on this monty?
Only days ago you said it was a non-story, and earlier today you said there was nothing in it. Yet you demand a response from Abbott?
To a non-story about nothing?
How old are you monty, 40, 41?
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 1:52 pm
CL’s doing psycho-sexual analysis of politicians now? Its accuracy is about as likely as a [deaf man] composing Beethoven’s 5th.
FTFY.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 1:53 pm
As Barrie says:
Quite right.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 1:53 pm
Once the media has been properly Finklesteined, that is what will pass as acceptable comment on the glorious eternal progressive alliance who will govern.
It reads like a release from official Chinese news agency.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 1:54 pm
How many other lies has he told? How can we trust anything he says?
Given his history of lying, would it be a legitimate line of media inquiry to go back to those sexual assault claims by Helen Wilson in 1978? Would you howl down a journo who secured an interview with Ms Wilson?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:54 pm
Quite so. I’m going to retain this for posterity.
The only way is down, Baby, Down!
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 1:55 pm
If you go on a national TV show to talk about a document, you should have read it first. It’s not a hard concept to grasp, Keith.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 1:55 pm
The worst piece of smearing, historic revision I’ve seen in a long time.
Barry Cassidy, former ALP PM advisor writes:
What a scumbag.
The ABC and The Australian booted Milne because the ALP told them to.
The Aus did it because they were threatened, the ABC did it because they are the ALP’s media arm.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 1:56 pm
Wow. Very sad and I’m not sure I believe it:
Lance Armstrong to be stripped of Tour de France titles after dropping drug charge fight
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 1:57 pm
They’ve already done the M0nty. The case was tried in court.
Great idea, we’ll all be happy if this matter with Gillard was tried in court
Token
24 Aug 12 at 1:57 pm
Interesting thesis there CL. (One wonders idly – did she let him know of her interest in those past times when they got well? — no, of course not.)
In response to Kae: Gillard Labor gets strong support from ‘third parties’ who can go in hard and pretty much unfairly as they like on Abbott and the Coalition. Think of the Greens, Windsor and Oakshott; of GETUP; of persons who purport to speak for women, or those claiming to be refugees, or those who identify as ‘indigenous’; of many in the ABC and Fairfax etc etc. Gillard can leave the dirty work for them.
The Coalition doesn’t get this level and range of support, and needs it badly. A donor at arms length from the Coalition needs to slip some serious money to persons like Babette so that she and her ilk can get stuck into Gillard. (And it is Gillard who has made public her sexual relationship with Wilson and used its history to seek sympathy. It is reasonable to question whether she was deceived.)
And one hopes too that the Murdoch press will go hard.
rafiki
24 Aug 12 at 1:58 pm
Slightly OT, but Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann has decided to sue National Review Online and Mark Steyn.
Great news!
Let’s hope the slapper follows his lead and sues..
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm
@jamesk – surely only the Froggies can strip him of his titles?
It’s a PR disaster for the USADA without proof. Armstrong has millions of avid supporters, while the ADA is just a government mob with zero support.
brc
24 Aug 12 at 2:00 pm
High Court finds miscarriage of justice in Patel case.
A new trial has been ordered.
kae
24 Aug 12 at 2:01 pm
Flippin heck – they have David Marr on all the time. Has he ever printed everything that was accurate?
A journalist that has never printed something wrong is like a race driver who has never crashed – a talentless wimp who is not prepared to excel at their craft.
brc
24 Aug 12 at 2:02 pm
Bad Lip-Reading, Joe Biden edition: PIKACHU!!
Can’t wait for his RNC appearance.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 2:04 pm
It’s extraordinary, that after what even Barry Cassidy calls “one of the wildest rides in politics” that m0nty and SfB, who both just last Friday were claiming that nobody, ever, would even run the story…are now here crowing.
How utterly bizarre both of you clowns are.
We were right, you were wrong.
Just say it. “Sorry cat, we were totally and utterly wrong, it was a big story and it culminated in one of the strangest press conference ambushes ever, apologies”.
It’s easy, and you’ll feel better.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 2:05 pm
Oh, so it was dealt with years ago and thus not worthy of current investigation because no new evidence implicating him of a crime has been uncovered. Gotcha, it’s a double standard.
How about a journo who interviews the mother of the illegitimate child fathered when Abbott was a student, which he thought at the time was his but was not his? How about interviewing the kid Daniel O’Connor, detailing his life as a foster child, a situation Abbott put him in by not marrying the mother? Where is the line you lot want to draw in your quest to shift our polity over to the excesses of the American system?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 2:06 pm
You’re a scumbag monty.
You are bringing up charges which were dismissed, to compare them charges which the PM won’t answer.
Morally you are somewhere between a dog licking its balls and a piece of gum that has been spat out trod around a train station for about three days.
.
24 Aug 12 at 2:06 pm
Stix
So ol’ Leatherface Cassidy is suggesting that Milne’s firing was brought on by the actions of the OZ and the ABC or rather the former Liars Party staffer was simply following the OZ direction. How novel.
Interesting that’s ABC’s position. At least that’s how ol’ leatherface is trying to spin it.
I distinctly recall the public servant filtering questions to the Greens having been fired by the Government for filtering questions to the Greens and Tony Jones had the roll mop on Q&A a few week’s after on the panel.
Cassidy is a lying dishonest douchebag. He’s out of his depth. He can’t spin anything anymore.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 2:06 pm
At least with Abbott there was enough evidence to lay a charge. No one has ever been charged over the Wilson/Blewitt affair, and no one ever will be. Gillard answered every question put to her yesterday. The story is dead.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 2:09 pm
oops that should read..
I distinctly recall the public servant filtering questions to the Greens having been fired by the Government and Tony Jones had the roll mop on the Q&A panel a few week’s after.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 2:09 pm
LOL. Barrie’s slush fund moment.
He then goes on to say, ‘no yeah – we DID stop using Glenn Milne as a commentator because he pursued the Julia Gillard-Slater & Gordon-Bruce Wilson story.’
The Gillardian spirit of the age.
Do something dirty and inexcusable, aggressively “stare down” critics – while actually admitting the charges – and then swagger off stage.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 2:10 pm
Ol’ leatherface’s attack on milne (whom I hate with a passion, BTW) struck me as a very low act.
Cowardly and dishonest.
Dogue, you crazy lunch digit, I’ve been enjoying that BLR video since Sunday evening. The syncing on my iPad is flawless. The Ron Paul clip is hilarious as well.
Rabz
24 Aug 12 at 2:11 pm
I wonder what a similar analysis of Insiders and of The Age regarding AbbottAbbottAbbott! campaigns would reveal…
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 2:12 pm
Hi rafiki
I was addressing the sexual thing to candy’s comment.
Just because some members of the ALP are morally/sexually placed in the gutter doesn’t mean that it needs to be pointed out.
Gillard is an embarrassment.
kae
24 Aug 12 at 2:12 pm
Go grab a bag of doughnuts and shut up. The story is dead when it’s dead and not a second sooner. You hoping it is won’t change a thing.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 2:13 pm
They did bring it up m0nty you dick ,they bring it up often.
But you already knew that didn’t you?
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 2:16 pm
mOnty’s blood sugar must have spiked after 2nd lunch.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 2:16 pm
Which was dismissed – i.e you shouldn’t have brought it to court.
Gillard refuses to answer some questions, and has been caught out on others.
So what anyway? How would a guilty Abbot absolve Gillard?
It wouldn’t.
Trio, Gillard, Blewitt, Wilson, Williamson, Thomson are all likely to go to gaol.
.
24 Aug 12 at 2:17 pm
National TV, eh? Such gravitas in that phrase, eh monty?
And if Abbott had said something, and this matter went to trial, you’d be first in line saying how Abbott’s public statements had made it less likely that Gillard would get a fair trial, or some such.
It’s just like when everyone piled on Abbott about not being forthcoming about his travel plans to Afghanistan, and everyone was calling him a liar.
Then we saw how Gillard had set him up to be in an awkward position. Now monty the Gillard fanboy attempts to paint a similar picture. You just don’t recognise decency when you see it.
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 2:18 pm
I thought so too, CL.
It’s worth bearing in mind that she is also in the firm menopausal years and that in itself could be causing her flushes. (For her own sake, I genuinely hope she hasn’t gone down the sisterhood line of scotching HRT; probably not though as it is clear she is not averse to a little technological facial cosmetic enhancement; from both a medical and social perspective, I applaud both ‘fixes’ btw).
Research shows the peri-menopause to be a time when a woman’s emotions about her life choices may come to the fore. Seemed to be the case in the ‘reflective’ piece she ended with about being ’50′. She may be personally confronting a few of her own demons in the middle of this political crisis.
Those demons are necessarily there over this early career disaster and her naivity or worse. Do we want such a confused (lying?) and conflicted woman to be our Prime Minister is the question that is then raised. In an oblique sense, Babette’s piece was also an ironic comment along these lines.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 2:20 pm
A certain Y&N has been trying to stake the heart of this story for 17 years. One surprise press conference later, and the stake is supposedly found the mark? 17 year old zombie stories that stalk the land take a bit more of beating than that little counter jab.
I’ll agree it was just the thing to get the love media back on board, but the zombie story won’t die until it has finally vomited all the sordid details onto the floor.
People are forgetting this is a covered up union scandal, where the AWU brushed it under the carpet and made no attempt to bring the wrongdoers to justice. The money was never recovered, nobody ever went to jail.
The Gillard part is currently the most interesting because of her position, but it’s not the meat of the story.
What has happened is that a line in the sand was drawn, statements were made. It is essentially a call for the accusers to put up or shut up. A poker bluff to see the hand, thinking her hopeless hand outplays what the other guys at the table have.
If we see no aces laid on the table in the next two weeks, then I’ll grant the story will have cooled somewhat, but there is no way I would be stupid enough to call it won when there are people still sitting around the table and you haven’t seen all the picture cards.
brc
24 Aug 12 at 2:20 pm
Women
Against Rape
for
Julian Assange
because
Must be the ‘Justice for Bubba Clinton’ Chapter of W.A.R. ?
Myrrdin Seren
24 Aug 12 at 2:21 pm
Das Rheingold on ABC at 7pm Sunday for those who want to immerse themselves in Wagnerian psychoanalysis, CL.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 2:21 pm
Helen Wilson claimed Abbott touched her between her legs on the buttock. Abbott claimed he touched her back above the belt on her jeans. Maybe a phalanx of investigative journalists should question some of the 200 people who were there that day to test the veracity of the counter claims, and splash the results over the front page for days on end. That’s the level of media discourse that you lot are baying for.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 2:21 pm
Precisely correct.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 2:22 pm
Big stories always remind me of markets in lots of ways. They are so unpredictable in terms of if and when they take off. They also wax and wane like markets do.
You could very well see this die down for a few weeks, then a journo grabs a few more hints or presents a new angle and it’s off to the races again.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 2:23 pm
Oh my God, he touched her slush fund!
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 2:24 pm
Abbot went to court and it was dismissed.
Gillard refuses to answer simple, honest questions.
.
24 Aug 12 at 2:28 pm
mOnty’s blood sugar must have spiked after 2nd lunch.
Monty Sackville-Baggins.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 2:28 pm
That doesn’t even make anatomical sense.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 2:30 pm
Personally I’m happy for this to happen.
Abbott told the truth and produced witnesses that backed his story up.
Whichever paper decided to waste space on it would see their circulation fall, because, after reading about it on the first day, nobody would care.
Why do you think the Australian keeps running this? Maybe they have found it sells papers and people are interested?
I know it’s hard for a state-loving sycophant to work out that papers exist to sell advertising space by providing readers with things they are interested in, but that’s what they do. Obviously a cursory examination of Fairfax should show what happens when a paper ignores what people want to read.
Funny how we’ve gone from ‘she’s innocent’ to ‘non-story’ to ‘shut up shut up shut up’ to ‘AbbottAbbottAbbott’.
brc
24 Aug 12 at 2:31 pm
I have a comment in moderation linking to five articles detailing the “sexual assault” claim made against him 35 years ago.
But yes, let’s go back and take a trip down memory lane, pre last election.
Here are some of the important, relevant and pressing things we were told about Tony Abbott by the people now claiming that 17 years ago is simply ancient history:
Reporting on bending a street sign in 1979? Relevant to Tony’s character.
Reporting on the sitting PM being involved in setting up a half million dollar racket in 1995? Muckraking.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 2:31 pm
Nor does mOnty.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 2:31 pm
What are you saying? These matters have been reported. Last election Shut Up! tried to raise them, but there was no community interest as it is not the Australian way.
Australians in general are as mature about Gillard’s sexual history as they are with Abbott’s.
You will notice with Gillard people are interested in her role facilitating corruption & possible benefits she gained and not so fussed she has broken up 2 marriages.
The fact you keep acting to prevent scrutinty on both the institutionalised corruption the Thomson & Wilson/Gillard matter, yet get excited about the fact Jackson may be also guilty of corruption is disappointing yet instructive.
All you do M0nty is make clear how your morality is built on relativism and prejudices.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 2:32 pm
Abbot went to court and it was dismissed.
Gillard refuses to answer simple, honest questions.
Some people are intellectually and/or emotionally unable to recognize and/or acknowledge the difference.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 2:33 pm
m0nty – given the British press outrage at the time (The Lizard of Oz headlines) better make sure we look again at where Keating placed his hand on our gracious Queen Elizabeth. Can’t be too careful when a man puts out a protective or steadying or whatever sort of hand for half a second on a woman’s back.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 2:35 pm
IT that is soooo funny. My poor keyboard is awash with coffee again.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 2:37 pm
Seeing the principle is so importnat will they be helping this man who recently got in trouble for raping a sleeping woman as well?
Token
24 Aug 12 at 2:39 pm
Lance isn’t pulling his punches. RTWT : Lance Armstrongs statement
brc
24 Aug 12 at 2:41 pm
And now for something entirely different.
Do people recall I said about 3 years ago how Iphone type technology along with apps would change the world.
People also recall that when I made an optimistic comment about the forward technology curve is sloping upwards far more steeply.
People will also recall how stepford, the Brisbane househusband, mocks me when i suggest people generally are very conservative about the technology momentum and don’t understand how quickly it has moved in the past and how much steeper the curve is now.
Well here’s an example.
I had a tech dude upgrade my entertainment tech as it’s about 5 years old.
1. Had a DVD recorder. It’s now redundant with an MP3 player. The DVD recorder cost around 5k when it was installed and it’s replaced with an MP3 driver etc. for a couple of hundi.
2. Installed a Foxtel IQ and Apple TV which means i can watch movies all through the house at the touch of the button. No more fucking around at Blockbuster. I can also access US Apple ITunes through my kids US account if the movie is blocked here.
3. Remotes gonsky. Now use an Iphone and Ipad app from Crestron.
4. Can use the Iphone to open by gate and garage doors. Raise and lower blinds.
5. Can get a CCTV image inside and outside the house from wherever I am on the Ipad or Iphone.
6. new Samsung TVs for a fraction of what the old ones cost.
7. Overhead projector… replaced the old one which cost just under 30k 5 or 6 years ago (came with the house) with a great HD one that cost 6K wholesale. The old one can be thrown away.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 2:41 pm
M0nty you deadshit they already have.
Here’s one of dozens of attempts:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/17/1089694611874.html
And another:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/17/1089694611809.html
The woman refused to speak to the media.
Of course if you’re saying that Gillard’s matter should go to court to test the veracity of her claims then by all means, yes, lets do that.
If it gets thrown out then we promise not to ever talk about it again.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 2:43 pm
7 witnesses disagreed in court with Wilson’s statement so the case was dismissed. If the case was re-litigated Helen Wilson is the one who would come off badly through the process.
M0nty I thought the Left has learned not to make sleazy accusations about Abbott.
After Mark Riley snipped the tape of Abbott in Afghanistan the public outcry was huge.
It was a similar story when the PM’s office set off the Australia Day riot and her office tried with the media to blame it on Abbott.
All that happens is they fire up conservatives and turn off people in the middle ground.
The people in the middle ground in Australia HATE corruption and union sleaze. This Gillard issue, like the Thompson rorting, will not die.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 2:47 pm
Where was m0nty pre pre last election defending the character assassination of Tony Abbott as having a “woman problem” based on things he’d said 30 years ago?
Should I go do some google searching to grab some monty quotes from 2010? Just to show what a duplicitious, hypocritical shill he is?
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 2:49 pm
Don’t bother twostix. mUnty’s not worth your time, seriously. Just abuse him. It saves time and is fun to boot.
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 2:52 pm
JC seems to think that climate change will be solved by vast and rapid improvements in home entertainment technology.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 2:53 pm
It’s a called a reverse cycle air-con, you moron. If you had a job your family could afford one.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 2:55 pm
The Gillard revelations of the past few days have also resolved a minor mystery: Why did this wretched creature decide to barrack for the poor ol’ Western Bulldogs? She’s from Adelaide,so she should be a Crows or Port supporter — allowing that her true allegiance does not reside with Cardiff or one of those other of her homeland’s clubs for bloke-kissing, round-ball sooks in baggy shorts.
Answer: Because former boss Peter Gordon is a Bulldogs barracker and ex-boss Murphy as well. Another naked and calculating bit of careerist positioning.
At Footscray’s annual GM someone needs to move a motion that she be stripped of the #1 ticket. We have yet to evict her from The Lodge, but there is no reason she should be tolerated at Whitten Oval.
Bunyip
24 Aug 12 at 3:00 pm
Stepford, emissions, not climate change, will be solved through technology.
Dickhead, you realize that through fracking technology US emissions will halve by 2050 and that’s not even taking into account possible advances in nuclear energy production. The cost of gas fired energy has now fallen through the coal price in the US.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 3:00 pm
Labor’s latest solution – Air People:
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/andrewbolt/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/now_flying_in_the_boat_people_instead/
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 3:01 pm
MWD this week:
● Stop Press: Call For Sir Gerard Brennan to be Censored; Leigh Sales Advocacy of Public Accuracy Has Its Limits
● MWD Exclusive: Mike Carlton Abuses Reader in German & English
● Nancy’s Pick-of-the-Week: La Trobe VC Misses Big Story
● Can You Bear It? Mike Seccombe, Bob Ellis and Waleed Aly
● Maurice Newman Segment: Everyone Agrees With Everyone Else on The World Today; 7.30; The Law Report & Richard Glover’s Drive
● The Thought of Mark Latham – Or How to Slander Your Opponents on Sky News
● A Fran Kelly Moment or Two: The ABC’s “Activist” Bags Tony Abbott Twice
● Correspondence : With A Little Help From Jack Waterford & Geoffrey Luck
http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/issue-151/
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 3:04 pm
“At least with Abbott there was enough evidence to lay a charge.”
no, you see, Mr Abbott is a very fine man and there’s nothing the ALP will ever find detrimental to his character.
frustrating for you, but there it is. best move on.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 3:05 pm
We’re witnessing a classic leftist equivalence fabrication exercise.
Tony Abbott 34 years ago in 1978, in University, was accused by a political enemy of touching her at a rally. He had his day in court and it was thrown out immediately.
The sitting PM in 1995, immediately before entering politics at the age of 35, as a career professional and partner in a law firm set up a half million dollar racket for her long term boyfriend and has never answered for it.
The differences to a normal person:
35 years vs 17 years
A uni student vs a 35 year old lawyer.
A court vindication vs…being fired and then refusing to answer for it.
One, while in governemnt frankly admitted to the SMH what had happened when they came knocking, one while in government tried to silence and muzzle the free press when the Australian came knocking.
But to the leftist:
“No difference”.
To the leftist Michelle Grattan and SMH didn’t fully cover the Abbott “Scandal” in 2004, then again pre last election, then again now that Pilbersek has brought it up again.
twostix
24 Aug 12 at 3:08 pm
Great work, Bunyip. More flesh on the bones of the story. Make sure you post something here when next you have material at your blog. Go well.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 3:11 pm
Sorry to hear the sad news about your parents Bunyip. Let’s hope your entries of late Bunyip indicates you’ll be back soon.
With the PM taking the time yesterday to acknowledge the fact bloggers have taken over the role of keeping the government honest it is clear your work is deeply valued in Canberra
Token
24 Aug 12 at 3:20 pm
Excellent analysis and conclusion, Mr CL @1.29pm.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 3:26 pm
Although perhaps Gillard hates Abbott becuase he knocked her back.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 3:29 pm
They lose $20 million a year, brc. The commercial prerogative doesn’t matter to them.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 3:29 pm
LOL.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 3:30 pm
In the monster universe $100 million = $20 million.
It’s all the same says Monster.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 3:34 pm
M0nty returns to Da Murdoch monster as his attempts to support of institutionalised corruption are falling flat.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 3:34 pm
God this lot in government are quite stupid. They never ever think things through. Perhaps their pre-frontal cortices have not fully developed. Just trying to figure out the reason for their stupid stupid actions.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 3:35 pm
“Excellent analysis and conclusion, Mr CL @1.29pm.”
Give us a C! Give us an L! *shakes pompoms*
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 3:36 pm
You should be so lucky as to see me shake my pompoms.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 3:37 pm
Seven witnesses out of 200, that’s not a lot. How about investigative reporters try to interview the other 193, many of whom had personal experience of Abbott being a typical young Liberal dickhead pulling all sorts of crazy stunts, and splash that all over the front pages for a week running? Go back and interview the other student politicians of the time and rake up all the stories of stupid things he did as a 20-year-old, so that we’d be regaled of stories of him and his mates’ drunken escapades just like details of Gillard’s home reno was this week? Is that what you want?
Maybe you want recreations of the courtroom that day in 1978, with Abbott being represented by a QC, and Helen Wilson and her Denuto-level counsel getting smashed by all the high-powered legal weapons that money could buy? How would that look?
Or how about the Hedley Thomases of this world go and interview all his ex-girlfriends to figure out how he made such a dumb decision as to have unprotected sex with Daniel O’Connor’s mother, and then think he’s the father, and decide with her to put the kid up for adoption? Surely that calls into question Abbott’s judgement?
Or how about this: if there is no new evidence implicating a political leader in an actual crime in an old scandal – which there most definitely was not in this case, much as Mr Dotto might whine that there is – then it is not deemed to be worthy of major treatment by serious journalists in the modern day. Maybe we can get back to talking about policy. Please?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 3:40 pm
Monster
Abbott’s case went to court. That was the available evidence and that was the judge or magistrate used to adjudicate the case.
The Lying Slapper’s case has yet to reach court.
Talk to us when it does and the judge has rendered a decision. Otherwise fuck off and stop ruining the thread with you inane drivel. Anyways it’s doughnut time.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 3:44 pm
Then again maybe she hates Abbott because he’s never tried it on with her.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 3:45 pm
Far out, JC. Your place sounds like the bridge on the USS Enterprise. You’re just sitting there saying, “make it so.”
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 3:46 pm
It did not reach court, due to a lack of evidence. It will never reach court, due to a lack of evidence.
Given your admission of Abbott’s lies and his propensity to strip down to his budgie smugglers on a sunny day, does that make him the Lying Slip-Slop-Slapper?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 3:46 pm
You’re alleging that the Australian loses $100 million a year? Last I heard it was only $20M.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 3:47 pm
What the heck is monty trying to prove now? He’s dancing around an awful lot. Careful of your ankles, mont.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 3:49 pm
mUnty, you are just annoyed that there is nothing remotely in Abbott’s past that calls his character or judgement into question like events in the PM’s past. We’ve all done stupid things on the turps. Are you seriously suggesting that the Wilson affair is just like that? Have a read of what you’ve posted and hopefully you’ll realise just how stupid and feeble minded you sound. I’m being serious here.
Put the crack pipe away. It’s obvious you are at the end of a binge and you haven’t slept for days. You are not fit to discuss this weekend’s footy fixture let alone policy or current affairs…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 3:49 pm
Prof, my knowledge of lefty lesbian power-seekers (anthropological observations only) might suggest that La Gillardine knows virtually nothing about football of any code (like me, really, to Da Ape’s great sadness, and one reason why Wodger The Temporary Lodger was called in to stay for quite a while from the UK). They generally have no interest at all in such things, seeing them as shocking hairy male displays (my excuse is that I’ve always been a dancer and gone for the ballet, which the lefty lezzies despise even more).
My legal girlfriends though are mad for it, because its mandatory for clients and because they all went to private rah rah schools where girls knew what they had to do. They get all fired up. Julia has just been going with the flow, but without the fire in the belly I’ll bet. Tell the Bulldogs to give her a test. I don’t even pass the one where you know which team goes for which goalpost, but it has to be a bit harder than that for her.
ps. glad you are on the case and heading up again.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 3:51 pm
Intresting M0nty. I have never “explored” the Gillard home-wrecking meme as it is not pertinent to current policy, but seeing Grattan and the Labor Stenographers think going personnel is fair game, maybe it is time to go there.
That said, I’ll ignore your distraction and get back to the issue you desperately want to avoid.
The key issue that hits Gillard is her actions whereby she acknowledged yesterday she set up an entity – a “slush fund” as Gillard prefers it to be called – for a union that enabled money paid by the WA government to be funnelled away for corrupt purposes.
Why is that relevant? Because the unions continue to conduct such behaviour (see the cases involving the HSU and the ETU).
I look forward to the royal commission into institutionalised corruption in the trade union movement and the Labor Party…
…and if Plibersek wants to fight dirty, I’m sure she’ll be happy if more people find out her husband used to indulge in commerce with Columbian Marching Powder.
Token
24 Aug 12 at 3:54 pm
It’s simple logic, Gab. The left stands for an extreme agenda and therefore upheaval and political instability. Therefore they must lie at all times about what they’re trying to achieve in order to get elected. To tell the truth would mean instant unelectability. The first lie necessary to be elected was that Rudd was a conservative. Gillard, with all the communist instincts of a Welsh miner, escalated the lying with the air tax. Now we find out she has been lying and cheating all her life. It’s just what they do. So their syncophants come here to defend the indefensible through lies, subterfuge and all the dishonest trickery they can muster. The left strategy: lie your way into office and lie your head off when you get found out. Simple.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 3:56 pm
slush fund
FYI.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 3:59 pm
where they always like this? Or is it just this new “educated” breed coming up via union ranks?
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 4:02 pm
It was ever thus, Gab. If you want to execute an extreme agenda, you must pretend to the middle class that you don’t to get into office.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 4:07 pm
It would grossly unfair of me to say this so I shan’t, but the main disappointment Jools had after the 2010 election was that she’d already had congress with all the people who won their seats.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 4:08 pm
Yes, Gab. Peter Reith looked completely honest and above board regarding “children overboard”. As did Tony Abbott when he denied involvement with the Hanson case.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 4:08 pm
The German chancellor today launched a bold
marketinginvasion campaign with the slogan: “I want Europe”.“Conquering Europe is not just a matter of the intellect – Europe is and remains above all a matter of
the heartinvading France,” she said in a video clip which launched anationcontinentwide military campaign. She added: “We have German Panzer divisions to thank for our peace, our prosperity.”FTFY
Mk50 of Brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 4:08 pm
the crux of the Gillard matter is this (in my opinion)
cutting and pasting from Hedley Thomas
Its stated purpose was something else
Appallingly bad practice for a solicitor not to do a conflict check with respect to a major client of her firm, appallingly dishonest and misleading to the WA beauracy who oversaw such matters to proceed with the incorporation of an association with a purpose so much at variance with its stated purpose
Is this the conduct that clients expect from lawyers, do whatever it takes and disregard your personal integrity
The answer should be, no
I’m glad Prof Flint taught me ethics
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 4:09 pm
You were a Liberal voter back then weren’t you?
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 4:12 pm
Every now and then Steve’s Hi Alanist slip shows for want of more careful dressing.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 4:16 pm
IT, in order to get the government troll job at the Cat, ShitFer had to lie his head off just like the rest of them:
Nicola thought it’d work a treat.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 4:20 pm
Presumably this means they expected other officials to be running for office on a commitment to decrease occupational health and safety and to reduce the conditions of members?
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 4:23 pm
These were my immediate thoughts too, Lazlo. Yet according to the love media this was a masterful performance. mUnty must have taken my advice and gone to bed finally…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 4:32 pm
Lots of good comments up on Bolt’s thread re The Story, with plenty on ‘bank cheques’ (including my comment too, rah!), and someone called Hugh has managed to get up all of Pickering’s latest questions there too, with a headline just awaiting a Mrs. Malaprop. These questions:
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 4:32 pm
Everyone saw that about 9 hours ago at Pickerings site, Lizzie.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 4:34 pm
Thanks for posting that, Lizzie. I haven’t seen the Pickering site at all today, darn work interruptions.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 4:37 pm
Let me guess, SfB. All of those questions…just muckraking, right? Rantings of a mysogynist nutter? Nothing to see here? Move along?
Fme, you’re so predictable…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 4:39 pm
People: I am merely pointing out that purity of heart and rolled gold honesty is not on any one side of politics.
Sure, Reith had been playing games: it didn’t make the government not worth re-electing. Ditto with Abbott.
And sure – for any normal person who is not stupidly obsessed with Gillard – her mistakes of not opening a file and being lawyer-ly clever about how to get the association registered have stuff all to do with current policy and ability to run to run the country, too.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 4:39 pm
Please delete one “to run”.
You have no evidence of knowledge or personal gain, Skuter.
None.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 4:40 pm
Yes her story has changed quite sharply about that point.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 4:41 pm
Sorry to take up a lot of thread space, but not everyone (as Gab notes) sits on blogs all day (nor do I, actually) and these questions are very good ones deserving of the widest audience. The fact that SoB wants them shoved away is indicative of their worth, I think.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 4:44 pm
SfB, lets give the benefit of the doubt that she was deceived.
Isn’t her ability to be able to discern reality from fraud a concern to you in her role as PM? After all, she makes such a big deal about approaching everything in a calm and methodical way, holding things up to the light, examining the facts and making rational decisions and paints her opponents as being sloppy and careless.
Yet when she was 35, she couldn’t ascertain that the conduct of her then lover might have been dodgy? She took no steps to protect herself, her client or her employer? This means nothing to you, in terms of qualifications for leadership?
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 4:46 pm
Good timing…
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 4:46 pm
No need Steve. You take it and run along now.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 4:47 pm
Pickering has had 11 children by five “brood mares”. How many does he want?
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 4:47 pm
Air people!
If you thought Fly in Fly out was big now…
But heh, more frequent flyer points to you Minister
Rousie
24 Aug 12 at 4:47 pm
She was young & naive!
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 4:47 pm
This never happened but funny all the same:
Transcript of the radio conversation between the
British and the Irish, off the coast of Kerry, Oct 98.
IRISH: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South, to avoid a
collision.
BRITISH: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the North, to
avoid a collision.
IRISH: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to
the South to avoid a collision.
BRITISH: This is the Captain of a British navy ship. I say again,
divert YOUR course.
IRISH: Negative. I say again, You will have to divert YOUR course.
BRITISH: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER HMS BRITIANNIA! THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE BRITISH ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS, AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, I SAY AGAIN, THAT IS 15 DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.
IRISH: We are a lighthouse. Your call.
Nanuestalker
24 Aug 12 at 4:48 pm
SfB, I never said there was. At a minimum, there is an abundance of evidence of carelessness and stupidity. That’s enough to disqualify her as a national leader in my eyes…You obviously have no qualms with electing halfwits who do not care about who they are paid, and have a duty, to represent…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 4:49 pm
I actually didn’t see that, Lizzie. Thanks.
That’s actually Pickering’s best post yet on this subject.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 4:54 pm
and why would anyone call that press conference brilliant
can anyone tell me that?
Is there some new critique on politicians
they have to be like a stage act?
just accept what they say (well unless they’re Abbott)
I still can’t understand why bolt (and I’m a fan) called her performance ‘brilliant’
and Abbott’s performance on 7.30 abysmal
personally I would have put those performances the other way round!!!!
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 4:55 pm
Da Oirish, dey know a t’ing or two.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 4:55 pm
It’s how we bought the house, CL. The electronics stuff was over the top. I’m just updating the crap now.
But seriously, the tech and cost curve is absolutely staggering when you consider the new stuff around and the cost compared to 5 or 6 years ago.
As I mentioned that DVD recorder was worth 5K then and it’s essentially been replaced by the MP3 which is superior tech too for a couple of hundi or whatever they cost.
The tech dude was telling me that people are freaking installing cinema quality projectors in their houses, which are the size of a freaking tiny room and cost 100K! He talked one dude into not spending that kind of money and just going with the 6K thing as it’s just as good in a home (distance matters or doesn’t in a home) and can be replaced every couple of years.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 4:56 pm
oh I forgot
she’s a woman who is prepared to yelp the discrimination whinge
and he’s a man
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 4:58 pm
maybe an assertive tone
that’s what journos react to
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 5:01 pm
Check this out. Note the price. LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnSujTOfo7w
(Saw this at Blair’s a few years ago).
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 5:04 pm
Only if accompanied by a vajoynah
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 5:04 pm
hey everyone let’s post
just like val majkus does
capitalisation and punctuation are leftist concepts
it worked for e e cummings who why the hell
not
don’t forget to embolden random words for effect
it’s what all the cool kids
are doing
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 5:05 pm
She was young & naive!
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 5:06 pm
…and now for something different.
Sex kills! No seriously. I witnessed clear evidence of this proposition yesterday.
I was waiting for a level crossing to turn green yesterday morning. About 50 or so feet away there were four of those Indian starlings literally having sex on the median strip dividing the road. They were really going at it, pairing off and fluttering their wings in what seemed to be fun (for them).
In some ecstatic fit of passion a pair took their coupling onto the road actually fluttering underneath a car that was ahead of me in the line.
Big mistake. Just as they did that the line began to slowly move, but I only saw one bird come out from under the car and it unhesitatingly joined the other pair cavorting on the medium strip in what now seemed to be a threesome.
Driving slowly along I saw that the other bird hadn’t taken off at all. It was flattened dead in the road by the car wheel.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 5:09 pm
At least he died happy, JC. I can think of worse ways to go.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 5:10 pm
It may have been the “she”, Gab.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 5:12 pm
lol my comment still stands, JC. What, you don’t we girls wouldn’t mind popping off when we’re…I’ll stop now.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 5:14 pm
mOnty
I’m going to scream mosogynist, sexist, nutter
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 5:19 pm
I love Indian sheilas and if they are going to make love on the street, we need more of them.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 5:21 pm
you do that
although if you’d gone to school long enough maybe you would have
learned how to spell “misogynist”
never too late you know
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 5:21 pm
well I’ve never had the occasion to use it
but I can see you’re an expert
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 5:23 pm
yes, but not these Indian fuckers (pun intended).
I freaking hate them. I hope I’m not being racist.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 5:23 pm
I’m posting on a right wing
blog full of misogynist nut jobs
of course I am familiar with the
term
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 5:27 pm
minty
You were too stupid to pass the first semester of university economics.
You are literally dumber than 80% of the people who had the same secondary schooling or better than you.
Learn your place, and learn to like the lack of altitude there.
PS
An old sleazy guy shoving his dick in multiple women doesn’t clear the PM of fraud.
A bush lawyer would know that. You don’t.
Perhaps this is why you are too stupid to run any enterprise without running it into the ground.
.
24 Aug 12 at 5:28 pm
Do you have any original thoughts mOnty that don’t involve chocolate sauce and a wetsuit? You’re now plagiarising terms of derision from that vile redheaded usurper.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 5:30 pm
IT correctly turns the conversation to where it needs to be.
harrys on the boat
24 Aug 12 at 5:30 pm
JC, that’s BLACKFACE!!!1!1!!!1
Blackface photos are, by definition, Waaaaacist! Just ask m0nty or SfB.
Begone, wingnut.
Kaboom
24 Aug 12 at 5:30 pm
Ah, so you’re admitting that your training is no greater than the mythical bush lawyer. Well done, Dennis Dotto. You shall evermore be known thus.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 5:34 pm
I for one am enjoying mOnty’s sarcasm.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 5:34 pm
Considering what caused all of Gillard’s problems a Bush Lawyer would be well suited.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 5:36 pm
Makes a pleasant change from darning socks and sorting out string, which fills your usual housebound highlight reel
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 5:37 pm
was the picture of that hideous fat fucker really m0nty from a few weeks back? Any prick that has so little pride in himself, has no right lecturing.
harrys on the boat
24 Aug 12 at 5:37 pm
minty – I never asserted I was a lawyer.
I asserted I was right, and others (including lawyers) have backed me up.
You’ll always be known as a fat, ugly, imbecilic virgin.
.
24 Aug 12 at 5:37 pm
thank you dot for that impassioned defence
and minty, love it
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 5:38 pm
What, the one who was the leader of the party that got the largest 2PP vote?
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 5:38 pm
of course. (Being the only one and all).
JC
24 Aug 12 at 5:38 pm
Don’t tell Roxon.
Keith
24 Aug 12 at 5:40 pm
dot, who excels at sport and is King of Bush Lawyers, link us to a pic of yourself on the net before you start mouthing off about others’ personal appearance.
Or do what you normally do – tell us how fantastic you are in all aspects of life.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 5:42 pm
Thousandths!
Kaboom
24 Aug 12 at 5:43 pm
Bugger!
Kaboom
24 Aug 12 at 5:44 pm
Dot never failed first year uni for a start, Stepford.
Seriously, getting dumped out of first year economics/commerce is not exactly a high point in anyone’s bag of achievements. However you are unlikely to understand that because you went to a rural TAFE.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 5:45 pm
Steve
She will get bushwhacked in the next election.
30 000 votes is a statistical anomaly of welfare addled voters and donkey votes of people who don’t want to vote.
Oakeshitt and Windsor are done for.
She got 60% of Tasmanian votes. Which is about the same as the proportion of Tassies who are reliant on the Commonwealth for largesse as their income.
That 30 000 votes could be wiped out alone by natural attrition (oldies kicking it).
Abbot has been up to 62% 2PP. He is the preferred PM. He has the marginal seats. Do you really think the voters in Eden Monaro or Parramatta are going to find Gillard more appealing?
She will lose executive office, then a shitrain will hit the unions and ALP, and many of these smug, lecherous pricks who have built up financial success through graft and corruption will be smashed to bits.
.
24 Aug 12 at 5:46 pm
No fuckwit.
minty tried his hand at a career as a public radio figure on the net.
He wades into debate with the poorest of intentions.
We try to have a sensible debate, he loses, then he lies. Then he begins invective when he is caught out.
The he cries when he loses the sledging which he does poorly at and then tries to make out I am breaching his non existent anonymity.
If you want to be a talkback host minty, try to do better than failing the first semester of uni.
You’ve got a face for radio, minty.
.
24 Aug 12 at 5:50 pm
dot, you’ve got a seriously unattractive personality going there, which is a much bigger problem than carrying a bit of weight.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 5:52 pm
Indeed and the next open thread is when?
Gunna be a slow loada this one if people keep feeding M0nty and Sleaze of Brisbane.
*sigh*
Jumpnmcar
24 Aug 12 at 5:56 pm
So says the man who lied about an extra marital affair of Tony Abbot that wasn’t true, and writes about semen and butt plugs.
You have no moral authority whatsoever.
I stick up for myself. You find this repulsive. We know that since you think kids shouldn’t be able to practice self defence.
I am respected by others. I am well natured, if I am not pushed by lying, sledging left wing turds. Ask someone like Andrew Reynolds.
.
24 Aug 12 at 5:56 pm
You know what there might just be a market for right wing views:
http://flowingdata.com/2012/08/23/amazon-election-map-based-on-book-sales/
Fairfax and the Australian rent seeking industry should try it some time.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 5:57 pm
Yep, you sure are dot.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 6:01 pm
“a seriously unattractive personality going there, which is a much bigger problem than carrying a bit of weight.”
As the old adage goes – I can lose weight, you’ll always be ugly.
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 6:01 pm
I said I heard a rumour and specified no more. This remains true. As with 20 year old attacks on Julia Gillard, you think mere assertion makes a compelling case. You’re about 1/4 as smart as you think you are.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 6:03 pm
lol.. coming from you Stepford. I only hope Tiny sees this comment and adds his contribution to the debate.
Dot is a nice guy, unlike you fuckhead.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 6:04 pm
Really, Jarrah, is that what you think?
So much for you not being a troll.
I bid you interesting times.
.
24 Aug 12 at 6:04 pm
Actually, you told us you had “more to come”.
Fuck off Stepford. You are a dishonest c**t.
.
24 Aug 12 at 6:05 pm
Is that Mrs Sears?
Kaboom
24 Aug 12 at 6:06 pm
Lol…
JC
24 Aug 12 at 6:08 pm
No. I believe I said no such thing, because I was not in regular contact with the person who told me the rumour.
JC: you are pretty much the trouble maker who started these intense personal appearance attacks on mOnty, but beneath your stupid bluster, I think most people know you are a better person than you sound. (You let your wife drag you to art house cinema, you love your kids, etc.) And yes – you even sent an apology to mOnty for starting something that got out of hand.
There is rarely an equivalent sense of decency coming out of dot’s nasty attacks on anything, and frankly, when they start getting out of hand again from him (or whoever), the decent thing would be for you to call them out on it, since you know I’ll be paid no attention.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 6:12 pm
That’s a really cool link, Infidel. Though I wonder if it is just showing that blueys buy more books from bookshops than Amazon, or if reddies buy a larger number of books in general, or something else. I certainly can’t believe that Washington state, among others, is overall reddish.
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 6:12 pm
Good god no. Imagine if you had to apply for a permit and prove competence to those incompetents, put yourself in plain packaging, take their view of the standard dose, only do it outdoors and wear safety boots and helmet just in case.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 6:13 pm
Brevik ruled sane.
Contrary to what monty said. Maybe you ought to keep quiet about legal issues, monty.
His sentence is…21 years with a minimum of 10 years.
He murdered 77 people and injured 242.
He should be executed.
.
24 Aug 12 at 6:13 pm
dot don’t get too agitated
i can assimilate with equanimity getting trounched for a typo
at least it’s not a slur on my credibility
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 6:14 pm
“… link us to a pic of yourself on the net…”
C’mon SOB, you brag of >6000 posts at your progressive, opinion shaping blog yet remain a secret to your fans.
Surely someone so influential with their illuminating insights should not be unwilling for greater transparency of their physical being. Surely.
DavidJ
24 Aug 12 at 6:15 pm
Yes you did liar stepford.
“I believe”
Fuck me you are dishonest. You aren’t fit to run a tuckshop at your kids school.
.
24 Aug 12 at 6:15 pm
Yeah, I shouldn’t have said “I believe”, because I am certain I did not.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 6:17 pm
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm
“Really, Jarrah, is that what you think?”
Not about you, ya nong. Or anyone else. Steve’s comment reminded me of the saying, that’s all.
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm
He keeps threatening to send me pictures of himself. I can only hope I never get one.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 6:18 pm
The Swedish legal system is about to get the shit kicked out of it by everyone for that decision. Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 6:21 pm
Dishonest is too wish-washy a word for liar-steve®.
The word ‘liar’ is correct most of the time and has the benefit of being succinct.
When he isn’t overtly lying he’s dishonest and when he isn’t dishonest then he’s disingenuous.
Are we clear?
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 6:21 pm
The Norwegians will be shocked to hear that.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 6:22 pm
Can anyone make sense of this horsehsit?
.
24 Aug 12 at 6:22 pm
Norwegians, Swedes. Honestly what’s the diff.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 6:23 pm
DavidJ, the small print on my “6,000 posts” post notes that buried within the blog there is one photo of me, in which you can at least see my general outline – sort of.
I have offered before to send a more explicit photo to Gab, but she has resisted the invitation.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 6:23 pm
I have no interest in seeing you in fishnets, holding a whip and standing next to a goat.
I’m a prude, I know.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 6:25 pm
Nothing. They all look alike to me.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 6:25 pm
No word of a lie, I thought you were going to write genital outline.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 6:26 pm
For a non story that has been declared dead, you two morons, the power driving spoon and the cockmaster with the self congratulatory blog entries sure get overheated.
StevieLiar. Have you done the ironing?
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 6:27 pm
You’re right Jarrah. I was a nong.
May you live in sort of interesting, salubrious times.
.
24 Aug 12 at 6:27 pm
London surnames:
http://flowingdata.com/2012/08/20/most-common-london-surnames-mapped/
Place is crawling with Browns, Smiths and Rahmans.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 6:28 pm
“Can anyone make sense of this horsehsit?”
Cut mUntly some slack. The weeks of mid-2012 have not been too kind…
http://beginnersguide2forummarketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mrs-mcgillicuddy1.jpg
DavidJ
24 Aug 12 at 6:29 pm
Maybe not.
Breivik is and was sane.
The insanity finding was a ruse to supposedly permanently lock him away as opposed to just 20 years.
But if someone finds him sane subsequently then he should be released.
The problem is that the Norwegians are immoral like us.
By allowing leftists dominate over citizens in banning capital punishment for such evil, we now see statists tie themselves in knots of inane rationalisations and contradictions.
Maybe the citizens revolt.
They need a purge of leftism and leftists
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 6:34 pm
Pickering:
Precisely what Obama did earlier this week having not had a presser for about 2 months. Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
And, yes, thanks for that Lizzie, Pickering’s most pointed post yet.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 6:39 pm
I post this only in the interests of science:
I wont link because it may cause Sinclair troubles.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 6:42 pm
“buried within the blog”
NEWSFLASH SOB…
By every internet metric available your daily blog sucks. Ipso facto your ongoing opinion sucks.
Perhaps it is time to to swallow your pride and procure mUnty as a co-blogger?
DavidJ
24 Aug 12 at 6:43 pm
Lizzie, you are obviously much appreciated by some here. My apologies for finding you too “Mk50 in drag” in the way you speak, and too “CL” in cutting and pasting what’s been here before. (Maybe on another thread.)
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 6:43 pm
SFB, why don’t you just mince off to your own blog and engage with your commenters there.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 6:47 pm
“They need a purge of leftism and leftists”
That’s what Breivik said, and did. Nice company you’re keeping there.
Jarrah
24 Aug 12 at 6:51 pm
I’m off to eat some lamb. It’s a shame cute things taste good.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 6:58 pm
No James at least of us against the death penalty because it opens the state up to committing murder should they get it wrong.
Admittedly that is unlikely in the case of mass murderers. Do we have separate penalties for mass murderers?
sdfc
24 Aug 12 at 6:59 pm
The Swedish legal system is about to get the shit kicked out of it by everyone for that decision. Congrats Mr Dotto, you’re fighting the rest of the world on behalf of a lone nutter once again.
Even though Brevik has a psychiatric history? That his mother stated he was a “very difficult child”. Even though two psychiatrists declared him insane? The court made this decision for expediency. I don’t see why we should trust a court to make a decision about a man’s sanity.
Brevik is a nutjob. The principal reason he refuses an insanity plea is probably because of prior experience with antipsychotics – shizophrenics often do not like their medication. Additionally, the insanity defence erodes all his intellectualising into fantasy. Yet he was fully cognizant of what he was doing so hang him.
Dead Soul
24 Aug 12 at 7:00 pm
Yes. The same rules for everyone – don’t be a mass murderer or you have no mercy shown.
Do you have a problem with that? The same rule applies to us sane people if we try to plead temporary insanity.
.
24 Aug 12 at 7:12 pm
Maybe we should have a SFB appreciation night once a week and en mass go to Steve’s blog and run riot with falsehoods,lies,and far left ideological rants so he can see how purile his arguements are.
Here’s a few topics to get the ball rolling:
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates women
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates asylum seekers
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates Fairfax
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates gays
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates the ABC
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates the arts
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates Liberals
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates Unions
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates board shorts
AbbottAbbottAbbott and why he hates in general
Splatacrobat
24 Aug 12 at 7:13 pm
m0nty QC talks shit again.
Nanuestalker
24 Aug 12 at 7:16 pm
Do you have a problem with that? The same rule applies to us sane people if we try to plead temporary insanity.
No, my attitude is the same as it was with Turner and Einfield: plead mental illness all you like you still committed a crime so go fuck yourselves. Literally, Brevik should hang. The main exception I make to that, and I know this is a guiding principle in Aus Law, is where it can be demonstrated that the person committed the acts whilst in a state of florrid psychosis, a state in which the very existence of the person in question is in doubt.
Dead Soul
24 Aug 12 at 7:18 pm
Serious question for any member of the ALP caucus…
In recent history, you have elected as your leader, two individuals (Latham and Rudd) whom you have later described as mentally unstable and now you support a woman who has admitted that she was naive as a 35 year old partner in a law firm and was incredibly careless in her professional duties. Is there anything that would disqualify someone from being parliamentary leader of the ALP?
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 7:18 pm
In fact DOT, not so long ago people here, like CL and James K, accused me of attacking Turner because she was a liberal. Those shit heads should acquire a memory because I have always been consistent on this position. Pleading mental illness after the fact of committing a crime is just being a coward. Period. In that respect at least Brevik is a cut above Turner and Einfield.
Dead Soul
24 Aug 12 at 7:21 pm
StevieLiar. Eat quickly then serve up the pudding
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 7:30 pm
Bonjour from Paris – there have been no obvious outbreaks of craziness. I have cleared the moderation queue but simply deleted the several hundred comments in the spam filter. If you were expecting something and it hasn’t appeared then it’s gone. Sorry.
Sinclair Davidson
24 Aug 12 at 7:31 pm
Crossing the floor would not only disqualify you, you would also be kicked out of the party and labelled a “dog”.
Splatacrobat
24 Aug 12 at 7:34 pm
S’OK SoB. I am naturally of a sunny disposition. Enjoy your lamb.
Do not overcook it. That is a mistake easily made by me.
Inattention in the kitchen is one of my strong capacities.
I am oven-cooking our rib beef steak and that takes care too.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 7:35 pm
Bonjour, Doomlord, ca va?
If you get a chance, do try this restaurant:
Le Sud
I can vouch for their excellent fare – of particular note the Crème brûlée, to die for!
91 BOULEVARD GOUVION SAINT-CYR – 75017 PARIS
Telephone01 45 74 02 77
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 7:41 pm
Ah, of course splat. Being disloyal to the tribe is a capital offence but you can be a complete nutter or admit hopeless judgement and incompetence and still command unwavering support from colleagues and the press gallery. You’ll even have a crop of useful idiots like SfB and mUnty at your disposal…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 7:48 pm
You can even break a Taxi driver’s arm in their zombie army but woe betide you if you cross over into the light. They will shun you quicker than an Amish elder caught leaving a knock shop.
Splatacrobat
24 Aug 12 at 7:55 pm
Having run a profitable business.
brc
24 Aug 12 at 8:00 pm
G’day from Melbourne, Sinc.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 8:06 pm
“Being disloyal to the tribe is a capital offence but you can be a complete nutter or admit hopeless judgement and incompetence and still”
it may just be a one off situation we have now with the current ALP and in time they will find again some basic values.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 8:06 pm
True.
They didn’t learn from Evatt, so forgive me if I’m pessimistic on that score, candy…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 8:13 pm
You first.
You and I discussed Mary-Jo Fisher (whose illness you denied).
I haven’t ever discussed the mental health of anyone named Turner.
I don’t even know who or what you’re talking about.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 8:25 pm
And there’s something wrong with this?
nilk
24 Aug 12 at 8:29 pm
LOL, of course it would depend on the 40 year old.
nilk
24 Aug 12 at 8:29 pm
Link please, you olive oil covered, fat arsed, hairy trannie.
.
24 Aug 12 at 8:30 pm
What other polling are they doing in maximum security mental hospitals? How did you respond?
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 8:35 pm
Gab, next time you’re down, the pier restaurant at Barwon Heads (“At The Heads”) does exquisite creme brulee. Being non-duck fuckers, they also do a competent (though not stellar) duck confit. It’s not Paris, but it’s a better place to sit, right over the water at the river mouth, 100m from the surf beach. Unlike Parisians, they’re not up themselves and prices are reasonable.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 8:38 pm
Doomlord:
febro, steveC, SoB, and monty, are all down to you, Thanks for nothing.
blogstrop
24 Aug 12 at 8:46 pm
JC at 5.23. That’s a mynah, not a starling. This is a starling.
Still happy for it to run under a car, though.
nilk
24 Aug 12 at 8:50 pm
Fme but Jarrah is thoroughly fatuous ignorant and disgusting commenter.
The Left tried to pin this atrocity by association on Peter Costello, John Howard and Mark Steyn because they were mentioned in his incoherent ramblings.
Breivik was essentially a fascist totalitarian with a hatred of multiculturalism and Islam.
He is a psychopath and not insane.
I’m glad they didn’t find him insane.
That was mature and the first positive sign after many serial disgraces where they had paraded this mass murderer for the consumption of the international media which Breivik loved.
This public trial was an assault on decency and the relatives of the murdered victims
That country is a cesspit of political correctness and leftism.
It has traditionally been small with a culturally and racially homogeneous society recently wealthy through oil.
About the only model where it could be even semi-plausibly argued socialism works.
But clearly the multicultural experiment in Sweden and Norway has not been successful.
The bleating of leftists was to find Breivik insane so they could lock him up permanently.
The means to that was a diagnosis of schizophrenia which would have been an assault on truth.
The loathsome Jarrah having had his lunch handed to him on the other thread tried the low road.
A very very low road. You creep.
Breivik is not on any continuum of ideology with conservative of any subtype or libertarian or classical liberals.
But Jarrah, an inane leftist who misrepresents himself as a libertarian tries it on.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 8:52 pm
‘Sactly, Strop. All four are here only as spoilers. They have no interest in why the Cat was set up or in why it exists.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 8:53 pm
ABC pollees are a bit … biased
Does the ABC have any polls on Gillard’s physical traits or moves
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 9:03 pm
God, Tom and blogstrop are continual whiners, nearly as big as whiners as IT about Australia, insisting on some sort of purity test for commenting on this blog.
It’s very simple: the Right should come back to the centre, accept science, and it will be acceptable to vote for again.
Meanwhile: what should I watch at 9.30 tonight? Male Hookers Revealed on ABC2, or Nazi night on SBS, about a bombing raid on a French jail in 1944?
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 9:03 pm
JamesK, what DSM-IV diagnoses would the psychs have given to Breivik do you think?
candy
24 Aug 12 at 9:04 pm
Fuck off, you pointless waste of food.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 9:05 pm
febro, did you see the latest cat poll? 99% of cat posters think you’re a bigger fuckwit than mUnty.
Now crawl back under your rock.
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 9:05 pm
JamesK, I’m very interested in what you think, it’s a fascinating subject, that’s all.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 9:06 pm
Is there some kind of competition going on here that I missed? You know, the one about the most obnoxious internet personality for refugees from Boltland?
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 9:07 pm
I should re-phrase that:
Most Obnoxious Internet Personality From the Refugees from Boltland?
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 9:09 pm
Don’t worry though febro, SfB is still the biggest fuckwit of all time. He’s all for being led by the nose by puritans, incompetents and mental pygmys…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 9:09 pm
Just you, feeble and mOnkey in a competition to see who is the stupidest cross dressing hypocrite on the web. Have you made hubby a cup of tea?
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 9:11 pm
I’m no psychiatrist Candy but: Narcissistic personality disorder / Antisocial personality disorder.
In old parlance a psychopath/sociopath
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 9:11 pm
I’m with Strop. Thanks for nothing, Doomlord.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 9:12 pm
“In old parlance a psychopath/sociopath”
JamesK, I wonder if there is a new variant of psycopath/sociopath who takes modern social issues as their driving force?
candy
24 Aug 12 at 9:16 pm
Febro: Mentally ill. Someone to be pitied and ignored.
SteveC: Paid by GetUp to annoy. More boring than anight in Canberra with Bernie Fraser.
SfB: I admit to liking him. Once you remember that he is a global warming missionary you get used to him.
mOnty: Secret capitalist bastard. Epicurean. Paid by Sinclair to generate hits. Good guy on an evil mission.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 9:16 pm
He engaged in cunnilingus with yo momma?
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 9:21 pm
My demands for freedom and frivolity are seen as whinging by people who want to ban everything. I’m an extremist because I believe in individual responsibility.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 9:21 pm
I’ve figured it out! Febro is Mark Riley…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 9:25 pm
IT, for your support, you can join me in my special, three hour silent International Internet Commemoration Meditation for the lowest Arctic Ice Extent for 5000 years (or thereabouts), to be held on Sunday when, I expect, this ominous record will be reached.
I expect it to be run like one of those Buddhist monasteries, where I can thwack you on the head with a heavy wood ruler to help you concentrate.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 9:26 pm
It’s more serious than i thought. I just went to make a Tanqueray and Tonic and we were out of ice.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 9:27 pm
febro is basically right: scoring the week, it ended with Gillard on top, Abbott looking incompetent and nervous, as he always has as leader.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 9:29 pm
Woops. Got to go watch TV.
steve from brisbane
24 Aug 12 at 9:31 pm
ABC rural reporting contradicts Leigh Sales little rant…
Analyst says BHP decision to pull back on expansions directly tied to mining tax
Abu Chowdah
24 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm
Steve to Febro: “You’ve got a friend in me”.
nice tune but
candy
24 Aug 12 at 9:32 pm
The blog has been wrecked by trolls.
Tom
24 Aug 12 at 9:37 pm
No, it’s always been this way.
And it’s always had highly charged, combative debate.
If you want a taste of what it used to be like, just wait till Bird turns up again, now that Sinc’s on holidays.
dd
24 Aug 12 at 9:42 pm
Agree Tom.
sfb is just a aging, conceited, supercilious prat.
febro is an archetypal troll, splat out from McTernan’s arse
mOnty is some fevered scatter-brain
I have said it before: boycott them, send them to Coventry. Nothing else will rid us of the infestation..
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 9:49 pm
Aww IT, that’s the nicest thing anyone’s said about me on this site.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 9:49 pm
Don’t respond to them. Which reminds mw, that “febro” persona is very familiar. I’m certain I have seen it on a Facebook site dedicated to hating Abbott. Really vile stuff. Low level IQ stuff just like “febro” and just as vile as he.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 9:50 pm
now that Sinc’s on holidays are we going to get a new open forum post?
This one’s getting too long
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 9:52 pm
Self-beclownings of the week…
- Hi Alanist Steve’s anti-Reith slip-up.
- Monty’s claim that a) the public elected Julia Gillard and; b) the public didn’t elect Julia Gillard.
- Julia Gillard: revelation that she was sacked from her first and only job as an incompetent clown who associated (and, of course, had it off with) a criminal.
- The end-game of Julia Gillard’s trumpeted prediction of two weeks ago that BHP Billiton were definitely going ahead with Olympic Dam.
LOL. Good call.
- Clopper’s beclowning of Leigh Sales and backing of Tony Abbott.
- Julia Gillard’s INSISTENCE that she set up a slush fund, not a trust fund.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 9:54 pm
Val, I think it’s set to happen automatically in the next couple of hours.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 9:56 pm
“Don’t respond to them. Which reminds mw, that “febro” persona is very familiar. I’m certain I have seen it on a Facebook site dedicated to hating Abbott. Really vile stuff. Low level IQ stuff just like “febro” and just as vile as he.”
yes that sounds correct and sfb is sympatico with febro. yuck.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 10:00 pm
Sick visuals dude.
Infidel Tiger
24 Aug 12 at 10:01 pm
Kudos to Abbott, I’d be looking pale and vomitus in such a situation.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 10:12 pm
febro is just some mindless adolescent intern down on Sussex Street trying to impress.
Come to think of it, I wonder how that precious journalism intern from Melbourne Uni would go ‘in the thick of it’ with McTernan, febro and co?
Mysogynist, moi?
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 10:12 pm
Given the genii in government are suddenly realising that $10bn has been “lost” from the imaginary budget surplus, it’s no stretch of the imagination to consider if this current band of nutjobs in government get another term, they will increase the MRRT % and they will extend it to cover uranium and copper.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 10:19 pm
thanks Dover
and CL for self beclowning of the week
what about Gillard’s insisting ‘I did nothing wrong’
No, only that stuff you did which resulted in that ‘re election slush fund’ Association for the misleadingly cloaked in the raiment of workplace safety reform
which in turn resulted in monies being rorted from AWU – one of your firm’s major clients
val majkus
24 Aug 12 at 10:20 pm
And they will increase the GST %age, along with the carbon [sic] tax.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 10:23 pm
Wow. David Humphries in the SMH not impressed with Gillard’s infamous press conference lie-fest.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 10:26 pm
The Grate Negoshater – aka “the Lying Rodent, aka “Old Slushy” – scores another debacle:
UN won’t work with Labor on asylum-seeker processing on Nauru and Manus Island.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 10:30 pm
So how’s that new Egyptian democracy workin’ out for ya?
Video. 5mins, interesting stuff from about 1 min onwards.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 10:33 pm
Thanks for that recommendation, Tom, I’ve bookmarked it.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 10:34 pm
Candy, interesting point you make about a new DSM-1V for ‘social movement’ disorders, but I’d suggest these characteristics of feeling ‘threatened and oppressed’ are surely subsumed under one or more of the other broader categories. We could go on forever inventing new ‘pathologies’.
Islamic terrorists come to mind when we consider unstable personalities being culturally conditioned into rigid mindsets, although other ‘groupthinks’ abound, not necessarily underpinned by psychiatric disorders.
I’m not too keen on these behaviourally-characterised personality disorder classificatory systems anyway as they all seem to overlap, they are not necessarily stable in an individual over time, there is definitional latitude, and much diagnostic inconsistency, which all means that allocation to one or t’other in any given individual can be fairly arbitrary.
I’d prefer to look for some pointers to the inter-mix factors of biochemical and neurological changes and environmental stressors etc on brain functioning to assist understanding of unusual processing indicated by stand-out behaviours or dysfunctions. The latter are so labile and socially variable that in and of themselves they are not so useful.
I have no specific training in this area, just thinking aloud from a general scientific/biological/epidemiological base. Wonder what others think too.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
24 Aug 12 at 10:37 pm
Zanetti has a thing or two to say about our nutjob PM:
the rest here
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 10:51 pm
David Humphries gets it right. Her explanation at the press conference was a complete fabrication given her , probably honest, answer to her partners. She lied at the press conference. She has nothing.
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 10:51 pm
Jeez – the abc never let up do they?
They got David Frum (the GOP’s Malcolm Fraser equivalent).
Frum was a speech writer for ‘W’Bush.
Frum loathes conservatives and libertarians in da GOP and he was kicked out of National Review Magazine.
He’s treated like a leper.
And his farcically lefty arguments are mercilessly but politely deconstructed by his former colleagues.
So: perfect conservative malcontent for a Lateline interview.
And did the intro story pile on the misinformation just to get us warmed up.
Apparently Romney wants to be a technocrat but the malevolent conservatives GOP establishment (I kid you not) have boxed him in.
The conservatives have only one economic button which they want to press again despite it failing the last time whilst the Dems are multi-faceted or somesuch.
Nausea inducing dishonest misrepresentation.
ABC leftism is impossible to parody
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 10:53 pm
Indeed, leading ALP intellectual Dougie Niv Cameron has demanded exactly that, not to mention a Tobin tax too. There is just an infantessimally small part of me that wants to see the ALP get up at the next election so they have to eat all of the shit sandwiches they’ve prepared for Abbott. There is no way they can fund a NDIS, Gonski, etc. without a stack of new taxes or massive spending cuts elsewhere. Leaving aside the merits of these ideas, the ALP are only proposing all of these motherhood programs to skewer Abbott not because they care about Australia or Australians. They really are the scum of the earth…
Skuter
24 Aug 12 at 10:54 pm
Candy, interesting point you make about a new DSM-1V for ‘social movement’ disorders, but I’d suggest these characteristics of feeling ‘threatened and oppressed’ are surely subsumed under one or more of the other broader categories. We could go on forever inventing new ‘pathologies’.
Fascinating, not 30 sec ago I posted on a neuro forum about the latest DSM madness. I also mentioned that I just finished reading “unshrinking psychosis” wherein the author argues that psychosis, in some cases, is actually a transition process. Psychosis itself is bad but the final outcome could be good. Not sure about this so asks a psychiatrist there for her opinion.
As to the diagnosis issues, there is a very simple reason why it is so hard to clearly identify a mental illness. That being: try and define normal behavior. Go on, try. So stop thinking that silly anti-psychiatry notion that because we can’t accurately describe and diagnosis mental illness ipso facto it is a furphy.
I’d prefer to look for some pointers to the inter-mix factors of biochemical and neurological changes and environmental stressors etc on brain functioning to assist understanding of unusual processing indicated by stand-out behaviours or dysfunctions. The latter are so labile and socially variable that in and of themselves they are not so useful.
The data on this is all over the shop. We will never have clear biochemical markers because all brains function in ways we barely understand. For eg. Just this week a research piece found that in spite of brain damage induced in rats to mimic the symptoms of schizophrenia, with appropriate training the rats matured with no behavioral pathology but very real neurological pathology. This is a complexity issue, as I suggested to someone long ago: forget that modularity stuff, the brain can get the same job done through many avenues, which means that this is an intractable computable problem.
So have some sympathy for psychiatrists. They are attempting the near impossible the poor bastards.
Dead Soul
24 Aug 12 at 10:56 pm
Nice rant by Zanotti, but Gillard was talking about Pickering’s prose in his blog, not his cartoons.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 10:58 pm
Society doesn’t make psychopaths Candy.
Childhood trauma is thought to be significant.
But either way it is not amenable to treatment.
It is not reversible and the person does not suffer.
They enjoy vindication of their importance.
Serial killers are often caught because of that very fact.
That trial was probably the raison d’être for the killing spree and the power of life and death he had on a one to one basis later on the island.
The stupid politically correct leftists gave him what he craved.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:00 pm
Pickering regularly draws the PM with a strap-on dildo.
He’s a dickhead.
sdfc
24 Aug 12 at 11:01 pm
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:01 pm
Pickering’s prose today was probably the best it has been.
Very good post in fact.
Lucid and to the point.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:03 pm
Society doesn’t make psychopaths Candy.
Childhood trauma is thought to be significant.
Yes, long ago a Washington neurologist identified 3 key factors:
A family history of psychiatric illness
Child abuse in some form
Notable CNS abnormalities, (with the orbitofrontals often implicated but this is contentious).
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A text I read by an expert on psychopaths said that whereas as many psychopathologies don’t rear their head until the latter childhood years, the psychopath was there from the very beginning.
Dead Soul
24 Aug 12 at 11:04 pm
Thanks Gab.
Q: How many feminists does it take to change a light globe?
A: One, and it’s not funny!
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 11:04 pm
Good post by Zanetti. True. Pickering won. Interesting too that an SMH writer is back out there, already over the shock of Gillard’s stunning press conference bullshit and putting the same unanswered questions.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 11:04 pm
Serial killers are often caught because of that very fact.
Here is an excellent example of that James. Two detectives had found enough evidence to convict a serial killer on two women murders but they were certain he had committed others. Initially they tried to appeal to his conscience, suggesting the families needed closure blah blah. Didn’t work. Then one detective started telling the killer that he was just another killer, nothing special, a loser. Then they got their confession.
Dead Soul
24 Aug 12 at 11:07 pm
I like that irreverent caricature for a blog.
It is a purposeful and accurate cartoon accessory for our PM.
It would be totally unacceptable in a newspaper of course.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:07 pm
He regularly drew Dame Margaret Guilfoyle with an untended, ever-expanding bush. Note once again the Australian left’s seemingly unstoppable lurch toward the moral policing manias of Flo Bjelke-Petersen and Fred Nile.
C.L.
24 Aug 12 at 11:10 pm
Interesting too that an SMH writer is back out there, already over the shock of Gillard’s stunning press conference bullshit and putting the same unanswered questions.
It wasn’t hard; all he had to do was wash his face with cold water this morning.
dover_beach
24 Aug 12 at 11:11 pm
Any leftwing troll ever complain when Howard was referred to as all sorts of names regarding his appearance and demeanor. The Left made a musical of Keating’s abuse and they loved it.
Fuck’em and escalate.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 11:14 pm
Julia should have him sacked. Let those bastards know their place.
Tiny Dancer
24 Aug 12 at 11:16 pm
“Candy, interesting point you make about a new DSM-1V for ‘social movement’ disorders, but I’d suggest these …
yeh Elizabeth, probably the usual, some rotten family upbringing and neurological disorders perhaps drugs = timebomb
but that breivek person seemed articulate and directed to a cause … guess in time he’ll become a shattered shambles of a person in prison, just as be was probably destined to be anyway.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 11:18 pm
Yeah John
I think serial killer psychological profilers depend on the killer’s need for their personal signature.
The killings become more elaborate over time.
There was a great movie on an infamous Russian serial killer Citizen X starring Stephen Rea and Donald Sutherland.
When Rea got his man, he couldn’t prove guilt and he was going to have to let him go for the second time.
The psychiatrist that Rea got to advise him appealed to the man by detailing the brilliance and attention to detail of the killer and the pointlessness of it all when he could not let the world know who he was.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:18 pm
I could make a remark about the socialists and their exceptions in the new Utopia we seem to be hurtling towards – such as sex workers being entitled to set up a brothel in a family-run motel trampling on the rights of the owners; killing unborn babies being something cool to do before 10am pilates; the environmental dangers of letting balloons waft skywards, but I won’t.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:20 pm
I don’t much care for Pickering’s style myself, but it doesn’t upset or outrage me that others do.
Where and when did the Left acquire this hardline Puritan mindset?
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:20 pm
You’re right, Gab – they’re hella inconsistent. Take for instance defending State-run heroin shooting galleries but wanting to ban cigarettes.
sdog
24 Aug 12 at 11:23 pm
Yes, they really are a totalitarian and prurient lot, unless it is a matter of their ‘personal freedom’, like getting off with married men with children..
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 11:24 pm
Animal Farm all over again.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:24 pm
What a load of shit. Anyone can be offensive. It’s decidedly fourth rate and an act of cowardice.
Imagine the howls of outrage if they were drawings of Sarah Palin or Tony Abott.
sdfc
24 Aug 12 at 11:24 pm
You have to scroll down a long way to find a Gillard story on the Oz site’s front page now.
m0nty
24 Aug 12 at 11:24 pm
Bollocks.
The offensive cartoons of Bush, Howard and Palin were page 3 and editorial page of major dailies.
You leftist twit.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:27 pm
I’ve never liked the dildo bit – it’s funny the way pickering drapes it everyone in each cartoon but i wish it was some other form of apparel
candy
24 Aug 12 at 11:30 pm
And on leftist protesters’ placards.
then photographed and put above the fold front pages of broadsheet newspapers.
The faux outrage against and thorough misrepresentation of the oldies convoy protest to Canberra on the carbon tax is an example of leftist hypocrisy as is sdfc’s latest pathetic lamentations
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:31 pm
Can anyone recommend the series Silent Witness? Is it worth the time invested watching it?
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:32 pm
There have been no pornographic images of any of those people on any page 3 that I know of.
sdfc
24 Aug 12 at 11:32 pm
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/abc_confirms_it_was_what_milne_said_about_gillard
Ivan Denisovich
24 Aug 12 at 11:33 pm
European Leftism is grand
JC
24 Aug 12 at 11:33 pm
– sdfc.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:34 pm
and neither have there been of the Lying Slapper in the Right Wing press.
SDFC, compare like with like please. No one would fall for the shit you;re trying to pull.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 11:34 pm
The ‘subtle’ message is that JG is positively rooting the country, Candy.
It is utterly irreverend but it’s not published for society at large.
Clearly.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:35 pm
A free for all on pornography is your dream regime is it Gab?
sdfc
24 Aug 12 at 11:36 pm
He can apply for parole in 10 years JC.
I shit you not.
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:36 pm
I think Gillard’s advertorial has changed that…
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:36 pm
I’m just teasing you sdfc. Lighten up. Lefties take themselves so seriously.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:38 pm
Where?
Did it show the strap-on?
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:38 pm
No, James, I mean now more people are aware of it becuase Gillard advertised it.
Gab
24 Aug 12 at 11:39 pm
Speechless. Just speechless.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 11:41 pm
What form of apparel would you think superior to dildoes dear candy?
Lazlo
24 Aug 12 at 11:41 pm
“The ‘subtle’ message is that JG is positively rooting the country, Candy.”
yes i see, just not my thing that’s all.
candy
24 Aug 12 at 11:41 pm
shit… not again.
NEW YORK (AP) — New York City officials say several people have been shot outside the Empire State Building and that the gunman is dead.
City police say three or four civilians have been wounded in the Friday morning shooting and that the shooter is dead.
A fire department spokesman says it received a call about the shooting just after at 9 a.m. Friday and that emergency units were on the scene within minutes.
The spokesman had no information about how many people were wounded or their conditions.
The shooting occurred at 34th Street and Fifth Avenue.
JC
24 Aug 12 at 11:48 pm
One brief Google search:
Titled M.I.L.P
We discover in the last frame ‘P’ stands for punch.
So few low-life leftists.
here’s a sample of many more: Muhahaha
JamesK
24 Aug 12 at 11:53 pm