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Good news for Abbott in the NT

A seismic move in voting patterns in the Northern Territory signals that the disastrous “progressive” policies on Aboriginal welfare introduced by Whitlam and maintained for years with bipartisan support have been rejected by significant numbers of the “beneficiaries”. Andrew Bolt has tracked the difference between the predicted result based on urban exit polls and the likely outcome. One of the flag-bearers of the change is the candidate for Arafura.

A staunch Catholic who proudly states he has worked his whole life, Mr Maralampuwi’s views are resonant with those articulated by other traditional leaders such as Noel Pearson, Galarrwuy Yunupingu and Lindsay Bookie. His decision to stand as a CLP candidate followed a long period of contemplation, in which he came to believe Labor policies he once supported were in fact “condescending”. “Labor has not taken Aboriginal people’s desire to work seriously” he says.

Reader Moz gives some credit to Tony Abbott who has made a point of getting his feet on the ground in the outback.

A lot of credit must go to Tony Abbott personally for the historic and shift of the aboriginal vote to the conservative side.Labor has shown to hold aboriginal development back after all the decades of so called help. Abbott instead actually lives the experience and can truly empathize with their plight.

A far cry from slush funds for trade union thugs.

Written by Poor Old Rafe

August 25th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

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Wasn’t it meant to be close? They seem to be going to win easily.

Brc

25 Aug 12 at 10:11 pm
Just watched the labor senator talk about the election. The first issue she raised was the slowness with which the NT ALP implemented the Howard intervention. Seems the people it was all about, actually support it. I wonder what Larissa thinks of that? Maybe for her own piece of mind she is watching someone have sex with a horse instead.

Entropy

25 Aug 12 at 10:13 pm
Price deserves huge respect for her fight for individual responsibility, free speech and an end to trivial racial divisions.

Good lord, it’s no wonder the pathetic lefties such as Larissa Behrendt despise Bess Price.

Labor and the Greens want to keep real Aborigines down in the dirt while their alleged city “cousins” live high on taxpayer funds.

Go Aunty Bess!

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 10:21 pm
Rafe

It’s that fucking loon Ellis. You gotta get rid of the fat loon. he’s defacing the site.

JC

25 Aug 12 at 10:22 pm
Hope the Greens are getting swatted like the filthy blowflies they are.

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 10:27 pm
Looks like the Trade Union Party in the NT is:

persona non grata

Forester

25 Aug 12 at 10:30 pm
Mr Maralampuwi is a former Labor man. The entire CLP has for years been largely shunned by remote Aboriginal people, with the bush voting Labor almost without exception.

The decision of four prominent traditional Aborigines, three of them high-profile candidates, to back the conservative opposition marks one of the most extraordinary shifts in the agenda of remote Australia, and has gone largely unremarked.

It records a change in thinking by some leaders, away from the welfare paradigm that has dominated for so long, and towards returning power and responsibility to local people and expecting them to work in return…

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/indigenous-leaders-desert-labor-for-clp/story-e6frgczx-1226443411121

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 10:33 pm
nah, the CLP won so it “has no federal implications whatsoever”…..

MDMConnell

25 Aug 12 at 10:33 pm
I heard Trish Crossin contrasting the ‘bush’ voting CLP and the ‘northern suburbs’ remaining ‘loyal’ to the TLP.

The ‘clients’ have twigged to where the real money goes.

Forester

25 Aug 12 at 10:35 pm
The facts remain that most NT Aborigines oppose and still oppose the NT intervention and its policies that have made not one iota of positive difference to most Aboriginal people’s lives.

Hence the electoral backlash.

You are clearly on bath salts as you type tonight.

Backlash?

Dude.

Are you Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf?

.

25 Aug 12 at 10:36 pm
All eyes will be on the ACT now…

Forester

25 Aug 12 at 10:36 pm
dot, just ignore it otherwise the threads just get clogged up with more rubbish from the idiot.

Stray cats always return for more when they get fed.

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 10:40 pm
Poor febro. The policies he so loves as a devout practising racist , the ones which grind Aborigines into welfare slavery, the ones his verminously filthy inner city racist luvvie mates so adore – rejected.

Squeal you racist scumbag

Mk50 of Brisbane

25 Aug 12 at 10:49 pm
Shocked faces on ABC – ‘but we spent so much money on the bush seats’

Maybe if some of the money made it through all the sticky palms and workforce reform associations thing might have been different.

Brc

25 Aug 12 at 10:50 pm
It’s that fucking loon Ellis. You gotta get rid of the fat loon. he’s defacing the site.

Well spotted JC. He’s got a very distinctive style. All of his work tonight sounds exactly like the puerile crap that he provides that so enhances Sen. Bob Carr’s contribution to the Australian political zeitgeist.

Megan

25 Aug 12 at 11:01 pm
Meanwhile, back to the Green vote for George Pascoe in his home town, Maningrida. George could have stood for Aryan Nation rather than the Greens and still scooped up a good percentage of votes. That’s because he’s the hometown boy, and his brothers, sisters, cousins, aunties, uncles, mates and so on will all vote for him. If he couldn’t drum up a few hundred votes from his family, mates and clients in his home town, then he really would have been a terminal loser.

It’s not about ideology in these circumstances – it’s about blood being thicker than water.

The CLP are presumably doing well because one of the key things they have done is to pick good, local, popular candidates.

boy on a bike

25 Aug 12 at 11:04 pm
Labor concedes defeat in NT election

Excellent.

Preliminary results show the CLP appears to have secured a swing towards it of more than six per cent, giving it at least 14 seats in the 25-seat Legislative Assembly.

Two other seats are in doubt and independent MP Gerry Wood appears likely to hold onto his seat.

Rural electorates played a major part in the result, with big swings against Labor in remote areas and the ALP also losing the Darwin seat of Daly.

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 11:05 pm
You do tend to always get huge swings in the NT elections though – the seats are quite tiny, and its possible for a good member to swing pretty much any seat. So the key victory here for the CLP has been getting good candidates for the traditionally ALP indigenous areas.

Quentin George

25 Aug 12 at 11:08 pm
On Mal Brough – those who don’t like him better start getting used to it, he’ll retire from the seat of Fisher, he’ll never lose it. But what will his brother do when reading the local news, excuse himself from political stories?

Also saw some independents got a kicking – the Windsor and Oakeshot effect flows through the land…

Just saw the concession speech – Labor really is taking their plain packaging laws seriously – ‘the Henderson team’ ? Wheres the Labor branding?

Will the next Federal election be ‘the Gillard team’?

Brc

25 Aug 12 at 11:09 pm
Brc

It will be the Voldemort party, no-one will dare speak its name.

It is good to see the CLP having the brains to realise that Aboriginal candidates have both the ability to attract votes, and the brains to help the party.

thefrollickingmole

25 Aug 12 at 11:15 pm
This is pretty significant election. The indig actually gave the government to the CLP. That’s incredible and would not have thought possible only a few years ago. Wow!

JC, the blackfellas have seen four decades since the 1967 referendum of white guilt and guilty white money. It hasn’t made a skerrick of difference to their predicament. I was at the historic native title handback to the locals at Wave Hill (western NT) in 1988, honoring the great Vincent Lingiari, who ran the black outback stockmen’s strike there in the 1960s that created the native title movement (in fact, I took the last photo of Vincent; he died days later). I think the Aborigines have finally twigged that welfare is a prison and their only way out is government that values enterprise and rewards initiative. I don’t think the analogy ends with the Aborigines, either.

Tom

25 Aug 12 at 11:18 pm
I wonder actually if the reverse of this blog’s title is true. 3 data points:

1) Coalition victories in QLD & NSW have coincided with (small) increases in federal labors votes in those states. Both in getting rid of the broken state governments and in response to more controversial early measures by the new premiers.

2) Howard regularly benefited from defining himself against the Labor state premiers, and in being an alternative to their controversies.

3) Paul Keating successfully used the actions of Jeff Kennett in Victoria in 1992, to claim a Hewson victory federally in 1993 would mean the same. Can-Do in QLD could be used as a similar example against Abbott.

I’m not sure this means much in the final count, and I’m not here to argue whether this is a good thing or not. I have deep reservations about the current Labor Party, but I’m not sure the NT election result will benefit either Abbott or Gillard. Like most state elections (watch for this in the ACT in coming months) it will have been almost entirely decided on local issues.

Andrew Carr

25 Aug 12 at 11:22 pm
Andrew

Everyone has had enough of the Liars Party. Analyze it whichever way you want but that’s how it looks.

No one can stand the lying, deceitful, shallow crooks.

You can spin it whichever way you want, but it’s that simple.

JC

25 Aug 12 at 11:28 pm
I wonder actually if the reverse of this blog’s title is true.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

dover_beach

25 Aug 12 at 11:33 pm
Delusion thy name is Andrew Carr.

Whoever the fuck he is.

JamesK

25 Aug 12 at 11:37 pm
Such a shame NT Labor didn’t want Gillard to visit before the election, we’d be seeing more of a swing to the CLP today if she had.

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 11:42 pm
Like most state elections (watch for this in the ACT in coming months) it will have been almost entirely decided on local issues.

Sorry, but if you’d seen the swings tonight, it was more than just local issues: 7.5% to the CLP and small swings to Labor in just 4 of the 25 seats. The rest was a landslide the other way. Yes, the Territory is very parochial, but Julia Gillard pissed all over this result, IMO.

Tom

25 Aug 12 at 11:42 pm
The CLP is also ahead in Arnhem, where Labor’s sitting member, Malarndirri McCarthy won unopposed at the last election in 2008.

Ms McCarthy said Labor’s bush members had always known this election would be tough.

She blamed the federal government’s Intervention for part of the swing, but acknowledged Labor’s failed shire reforms were
also partly responsible. The reforms, which Ms McCarthy presided over as minister, centralised control and left almost all local government shires effectively bankrupt.

Labor’s trademark.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/clp-makes-inroads-in-early-count-in-northern-territory-election/story-fn59niix-1226458055375

Gab

25 Aug 12 at 11:46 pm
I wonder actually if the reverse of this blog’s title is true.

Good Lord.

Are there really people who think that when yet another ALP government gets gang-raped in the backside by ten thousand donkeys and a pod of blue whales that it’s bad news for Abbott.

FMD….

Mk50 of Brisbane

25 Aug 12 at 11:51 pm
Bess Price looking good at the moment. Hope she wins.

Apparently, the Labor incumbent is her nephew… LOL!

Fleeced

25 Aug 12 at 11:52 pm
I wonder what Larissa thinks of that? Maybe for her own piece of mind she is watching someone have sex with a horse instead

Accepting she was being truthful, what that particular part of her tweet revealed about her seemed to have been largely glossed over or ignored. The focus was all on the denigration of Price. Very little scrutiny, as far as I could see, on Behrendt’s viewing choices.

Ivan Denisovich

25 Aug 12 at 11:55 pm
If only Gillard had spent some time in Aboriginal communities like Tony Abbott.

It might have helped.

C.L.

26 Aug 12 at 12:03 am
If only Gillard had spent some time in Aboriginal communities like Tony Abbott.

It’s impossible to even imagine – just as it’s impossible to imagine her volunteering for anything. Her idea of “community involvement” is setting up slush funds for unions.

Fleeced

26 Aug 12 at 12:09 am
Yes C.L.

Henderson made the wrong call.

If only he had asked Julia to go bush campaigning for Labor, the result may very well have been different.

JamesK

26 Aug 12 at 12:09 am
Its better for federal Labor that they lost beacause, as in Queensland, it will bring voters back to federal Labor.

Very true Julius.

Very true indeed.

You’re an awfully smart fellow, Julius

JamesK

26 Aug 12 at 12:17 am
Her idea of “community involvement” is setting up slush funds for unions.

True. She was also the organiser for the Socialist Forum. That’s “community involvement too. As she said:

While experience in the student movement inspired those on the other side of the house to dedicate themselves to the destruction of unionism, it inspired us to work with and for unions.

And she hasn’t stopped.

Gab

26 Aug 12 at 12:17 am
If only Gillard had spent some time in Aboriginal communities like Tony Abbott.

It might have helped.

Priority elsewhere:

Next time you hear the sound of handwringing coming from the Gillard government about how much they care for indigenous people, remember: they don’t care nearly as much about them as they care about Tony Abbott. If they can use them to get at him, they will.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/in-politics-as-in-life-fruit-doesnt-fall-far-from-the-ministerial-tree-20120131-1qr9y.html#ixzz24ZGeAcPD

Ivan Denisovich

26 Aug 12 at 12:24 am
They don’t vote for us anyway.

Aborigines too?

Septimus

26 Aug 12 at 12:30 am
Result summary…

Old news: the ALP hates Aborigines.

Update: the feeling is mutual.

C.L.

26 Aug 12 at 12:35 am
Mal Brough should be sent outback to do for the aboriginals what he did for Ashby

You’re real deep tonight Julius.

You are very very smart Julius.

JamesK

26 Aug 12 at 12:37 am
The number of trolls and sockpuppets we’ve seen here lately obviously correlates to how desperate Labor is feeling.

~flail~
~flail~
~flail~

I managed to miss most of the coverage on this one – can’t wait for a “highlights” reel. That post of Bolt‘s that Rafe linked to sure has some good commentary. Wish he’d stayed up for Labor’s concession, but.

sdog

26 Aug 12 at 2:08 am
Labors turd polishers will be all over this result – as much as they did this!

stu

26 Aug 12 at 6:17 am
This is great news.

To the slimy laybore green shitheads here in Zombie Parrotville:

You’re next.

Rabz

26 Aug 12 at 6:38 am
It could have been worse, Gillard could have campaigned there. If she is still around when Tassie goes to the polls it will be interesting if Team Giddings issue her a no fly zone order.

Splatacrobat

26 Aug 12 at 6:43 am
People tend to forget that it was Noel Pearson and his Cape York group that laid down the template for intervention. They made it possible to speak the truth about dysfunction and the causes of it. Not that everyone agreed within that community, or within NT ones. But it is indeed hopeful that this swing has happened in the bush and that there are good candidates going into the new assembly.
It’s ironic and instructive to find in so many cases that the articulate aboriginals are the ~~stolen~~ saved ones.

Blogstrop

26 Aug 12 at 6:52 am
Well, it was bound to happen:

RAAAAACISTS!!!111eleventy!!!!!111

sdog

26 Aug 12 at 6:57 am
Aboriginal politics is simply too complicated to make much out of this. The reaction to the intervention is not uniform amongst your non urban, full blood (for want of a better term) aborigines, and it seemed to me that both sides of politics had policies in the run up to this election that are controversial from a point of civil liberties point of view.

Sensible people would therefore be cautious about Federal implications.

Steve from brisbane

26 Aug 12 at 7:03 am
your correct Steve, there are no Federal implications. Labor is already screwed.

Splatacrobat

26 Aug 12 at 7:06 am
“Shut up. This is not a thing.” ~SfB

sdog

26 Aug 12 at 7:13 am
Another Tarago Labor party. Giddings should start haggling with the local hobart Toyota dealer so she can get one of her own.

Splatacrobat

26 Aug 12 at 7:14 am
Of course, I specified “sensible people”, so that you do your voluntary exclusion from same.

Steve from brisbane

26 Aug 12 at 7:24 am
Yes Noel Pearson was the trail blazer in this area and it is historic that he formed a working partnership with John Howard that was the seachange in getting rid of the Whitlam legacy.

The reason why this is good news for Abbott is that the kind of self-help that Howard and Abbott favour, over the pasive welfare approach, has got some traction where it most matters.

As to trolls, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.

Inane comments do not need a rejoinder.

People with different views are welcome, we don’t want to be an echo chamber like the love-ins on the ABC that Gerard Henderson sends up each week.

Reply to arguments, not inane, pot-stirring comments.

Poor Old Rafe

26 Aug 12 at 7:33 am
25 MPs for how many voters??

a mate lived in darwin 20 years ago. the electorates were so small that you could expected your local MP to come around for dinner for inspection!!

Jim Rose

26 Aug 12 at 8:20 am
Federal Labor, in conjunction with the ABC, have been testing a unified response.

lotocoti

26 Aug 12 at 8:20 am
The First Nations party has some interesting policies:

With your vote we want to Help all Territorians….
1. To own your Housing Commission House!
2.Develop Business on your Outstation, Homeland in partnership, with people that wan to work with you!
3. Use little bit of your land to borrow money to do business!
4. To control your own life!
5. Teach your kids language in school as well!
6. Put your Law and Culture back in front!
7. Do business together with other Cultural groups as Territorians!

Sounds like they very much want to ditch the socialist policies of the past.

They also want 3 years national service for everyone living in the NT, and want education to concentrate on “Reading, Writing, Math’s, Speaking English, Aboriginal History,Australian History, Science and Technology.”.

boy on a bike

26 Aug 12 at 8:20 am
So how many seats did the Greens win in the election?

Gab

26 Aug 12 at 8:37 am
I wonder actually if the reverse of this blog’s title is true. 3 data points:

Honestly Andrew, NT generally doesn’t have much of an effect on elections. The Senators always split 1/1, and there is only two lower house seats. Even a terrible result by either party really means a loss of at max, 2 seats. I don’t think even on current polling the ALP will lose Lingari….but I may be wrong.

Quentin George

26 Aug 12 at 8:40 am
And the Greens got 3.1%, down 1.7%. Along with Labor, they were the only party to see a decrease in their vote. Is there a message here for Federal Labor? Oh, yes. Warren Snowdon will be nervous.

Keith

26 Aug 12 at 8:41 am
The Crikey boys for their part are dutifully spinning for Labor:

* The CLP is “racist” for running dark skinned candidates against white skinned ones……or something….

* Henderson can now run as Labor candidate for Solomon and win it back for Labor

* All the anger against Labor is now gone so it’s great news for Labor federally

* OMFG the CLP will do a Newman and sack like 5 billion public servants, thus handing the federal seats to Labor.

* In all, a brilliant result for Labor. Apparently the only thing better would have been an even bigger defeat……

MDMConnell

26 Aug 12 at 8:45 am
Hope the Greens are getting swatted like the filthy blowflies they are.

ok.. so the NT elections are weird, electorates would fit in the average community hall, and they’re all related to the member, but the greens had a swing of -1.2%.

That’s about 40% of their previous vote (3.1%)

Tee hee.

duncan

26 Aug 12 at 8:49 am
Aww, sad news for the Greens. Good news for NT.

hahahahaha!

Gab

26 Aug 12 at 9:08 am
Of course in terms of the numbers in Canberra the NT result is irrelevant. The point is that the nearer you get to Abbott and appreciate his values the better he looks.

Of course it is a pity about his economics and climate policy.

But the big Abbott Abbott scare is about what a terrible, awful, nasty, woman-hating, negative, heartless person he is. Which is bullshit and it is a pity that so many Coalition supporters think that way and still hanker for the polished turd Turnbull.

Poor Old Rafe

26 Aug 12 at 9:12 am
Henderson can now run as Labor candidate for Solomon and win it back for Labor

Not with the amount of defence personnel there they can’t.

Quentin George

26 Aug 12 at 9:17 am
“Which is bullshit and it is a pity that so many Coalition supporters think that way and still hanker for the polished turd Turnbull.”

Can’t imagine m. Turnbull doing much up in the Territory, he looks as though he wouldn’t even know how to use a hammer or a screw driver properly.

candy

26 Aug 12 at 9:47 am
This election has less voters than a typical local council in NSW. It’s totally irrelevant in the overall scheme of things. I’ve said in earlier comments that I can detect a major swing back to the ALP in the Federal sphere. The Queensland Galaxy poll confirms that. I think the Neilson poll is due out tomorrow. I’ll go out on a limb and predict that Labor will have a 2PP of 51 – 49 in our favour.

hammygar

26 Aug 12 at 9:48 am
” It’s totally irrelevant in the overall scheme of things.”

i tend to think it is not irrelevant to the people who have made their lives there, just a hunch.

candy

26 Aug 12 at 9:58 am
I’ll go out on a limb and predict that Labor will have a 2PP of 51 – 49 in our favour.

our favour

Apparently the exit polls in the NT election were even and look what happened; I wonder about polling; unlike fuckwits like this hammygar idiot who are so blatantly obvious.

cohenite

26 Aug 12 at 10:00 am
“It’s totally irrelevant in the overall scheme of things.”

Not to a minority federal government it isn’t.

Keith

26 Aug 12 at 10:00 am
I’ll go out on a limb

And in typical laybore fashion you will saw it off behind you and declare victory as you plunge.

I know Rafe, I shouldn’t respond but when they are this stoopid!

Biota

26 Aug 12 at 10:06 am
Neilsen is first Monday of each month isn’t it?

MDMConnell

26 Aug 12 at 10:07 am
The polling in Qld proves the old adage that gov’s are voted out, oppositions are not voted in. Hell, who thinks Fatty O’Barrel is a good let alone an excellent Premier. Compared to Labor, he is streets ahead. Does not mean he is good. Newman is goodish, compared to Labor, brilliant. A lot of people do not care about Abbott. They just want to find the best way to be as cruel as possible to Gillard, to hurt her, smash her and desecrate whatever is left of the corpse with urine and faeces. Only after they can find nothing more to pulp, then and only then will they worry about Abbott. It is more a general unease with be lied to and then laughed at when you complain than a subtle policy argument.

WhaleHunt Fun

26 Aug 12 at 10:30 am
What do you seel Abbott doing about the carbon farming issue which has been pushed in NT Poor Old Rafe?

My understanding in regard NT trail blazers was that it was Gatjil Djerrkura (Arnhemland) and John Herron who released discussion papers in1998 ‘Removing the Welfare Shackles’. In 1994 a review off the employment training schemes had been undertaken. All worthwhile objectives in the scheme of lifting people from poverty. However it was.not until 2004 that the truth about ALL education and actual skill levels (adults AND children) was presented. This also came from Arnhemland.
Gatjil died unexpectedly in 2004, Toohey was replaced as the NT correspondent later by Rothwell.

Boy On a Bike, thank you for your pertinent comments.
Arafura & Stuart outcomes are awaited with interest.

Jessie

26 Aug 12 at 10:30 am
News from the Heffron by election in NSW. The Libs didn’t run a candidate. Antony Green predicted the Greens should have picked up 33.8% of the vote. So far, they are on 29.7% It’s a sign of the times.

The Libs didn’t run a candidate.

Outgoing Botany mayor Ron Hoenig has declared Labor “back” in NSW after easily retaining the seat of Heffron for the party and increasing its primary vote in the electorate by almost 20 per cent.

Yep, winning one of your safest seats back when the Libs aren’t running anyone really means you are back in business. hahahahaha

boy on a bike

26 Aug 12 at 10:32 am
Just in case you missed anything, the Libs didn’t run a candidate.

boy on a bike

26 Aug 12 at 10:34 am
I can detect a major swing back to the ALP in the Federal sphere

hammygar, are you buying up stocks accordingly in Ipredict and the other prediction markets? long-run super-normal profits await you?

Jim Rose

26 Aug 12 at 10:37 am
Dog-whistling Crikey blames the Abos.

C.L.

26 Aug 12 at 10:45 am
Thanks Jessie, I don’t know about carbon farming in the NT, the problem is that the relevant shadow minister is a greenie. Abbott can’t fight on every front both inside and outside the party.

Thanks for the heads up on Gatjil and Herron, that was under my radar. I think Rothwell has been a good reporter, what is your view?

The question that had to be asked when the Mal Brough report came out, is how come the circumstances in the remote settlemnets never got reported although tens of thousands of people must have know about the way things were going for decades.

And never forget that the first blow against Aboriginal employment in the outback was the native stockworkers wage agreement from the bench of the Commonwealth Industrial Court in Melbourne.

Poor Old Rafe

26 Aug 12 at 10:47 am
A far cry from slush funds for trade union thugs.

It certainly is. This result is the best thing to happen in Aboriginal Australia for a long, long time, a sign of hope and the start of a turnaround to the nightmare of welfared communities.

Watch the Labor Looney Tunes all start playing now, though, spinning their ‘legacy of disaster’ songsheet into a rousing anthem about how any change for the good rests on their achievements.

Our trolls are trying so hard today. Here y’are trolls, eat this: Abbott,Abbott,Abbott

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

26 Aug 12 at 10:52 am
One CLP policy which will have a difference on the Political level is to follow the lead of Campbell Newman and put the cleaners through the over-fat ranks of bludging Public Servants.That alone will see large numbers of Labor voters leave the Territory,not because other jobs are not available but because those jobs would involve actual WORK.

Lew

26 Aug 12 at 11:28 am
Dog-whistling Crikey blames the Abos.

This is a disgusting comment. Quite insultingly racist in its use of the “abo” word. I thought Australians had moved on from using words like “abos” and its equivalent, “niggers”, in a derogatory sense. This should be referred to the Equal Opportunity Commission. This is a blog with a high hit rate and will be subject to the Finkelstein reforms. This sort of behaviour must be stamped out.

hammygar

26 Aug 12 at 11:38 am
How will that make an ounce of difference to the aboriginals that voted for public sector cuts?

Their economy is no longer strangled by transfer payments disguised as ‘services’.

Michael Costa, as the ALP Treasurer of NSW, knew at least 20% of the NSW PS should be cut, and more probably could be cut.

Two out of three Queenslanders now disapprove of Newman’s cuts so why would impoverished aboriginals be any different?

Link please. The ALP have 7/89 seats. Just sayin’

.

26 Aug 12 at 11:38 am
Very simple Julius, whenever there is a cut to the public service budget, the insiders ensure that the first jobs to go are those that interface with the public. Result: a bad public reaction.

They may be lazy and mendacious but they are not stupid.

The thing is to adminster cuts so the rorts and the fat are cut out but not services.

Poor Old Rafe

26 Aug 12 at 11:39 am
This is a disgusting comment. Quite insultingly racist in its use of the “abo” word. I thought Australians had moved on from using words like “abos” and its equivalent, “niggers”, in a derogatory sense. This should be referred to the Equal Opportunity Commission. This is a blog with a high hit rate and will be subject to the Finkelstein reforms. This sort of behaviour must be stamped out.

You have to be Tillman. Your diction is Birdesque. Well played – but why are you using your other login?

Maybe you’re ZED?

Very well played then.

.

26 Aug 12 at 11:39 am
Culling public servants is never a bad thing because none of them perform a task that is not done better and cheaper by the market, or better not done at all. Every aborigine and every one who is not an aborigine would benefit by the culling, annuually in a controlled manner, of public service positions. O’Farrel has made a small start with the ferals in National Parks, but it needs to be copied and widened to other States and Territories and other departments.

WhaleHunt Fun

26 Aug 12 at 11:41 am
“I thought Australians had moved on from using words like “abos” and its equivalent, “niggers”, in a derogatory sense.”

As you demonstrated with your example where Abos was not used in a derogatory sense.

At the same time we should be prepared to call a spade a spade:)

Poor Old Rafe

26 Aug 12 at 11:42 am
“All eyes will be on the ACT now” Forester I live in the ACT and so am 100% certain there will be nothing to see here! The ACT seats – particularly the Fed ones – are the bluest of blue Labor seats in the whole of Oz. 98% of my friends are Labor devoted public servants. As a result we rarely, if ever, discuss politics. Even when there has been a huge swing to the Coalition in a Federal election the ACT Labor reps have always been safely re-elected.

carol

26 Aug 12 at 11:43 am
Blogstrop:

I wonder what Larissa thinks of that? Maybe for her own piece of mind she is watching someone have sex with a horse instead.

Bwahahahahahahaaaa..

larissa, the Rodell Vereen fangurl.

Mk50 of Brisbane

26 Aug 12 at 11:43 am
This is a disgusting comment

And Hammy is disgusting leftist fuckwit who typifies the stupidity that has seen generations of aboriginal people encouraged into self-destructive behaviour rather than incentivising and championing noble human endeavour and in particular supporting sound education and traditional values.

JamesK

26 Aug 12 at 11:48 am
What would Peter Singer do?

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26 Aug 12 at 11:48 am
Julius, as a general principle, if you are spending less on bureaucrats there should be more money on the ground. In addition how that money when freed up is spent is crucial; federally and at every other level the ALP and Greens have shown extraordinary ability to throw money at ideological solutions which have no practical benefit. The CO2 tax is a classic case.

In respect of carbon farming the relevant legislation includes the Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Bill 2011, Carbon Credits (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2011 and the Australian National Registry of Emissions Units Bill 2011.

All of these Bills have one purpose; to replace farming with non-farming with government handouts providing the income; the federal ALP has already announced joint enterprises [sic] with indigenous groups: this is bullshit, just the same old handout mentality rebranded. If you sat down and really concentrated on working out a scheme which would make aboriginal activity pointless you could not come up with a better scheme then ‘employing’ a bunch of them to tend a destocked resource ‘growing’ CO2 sinks.

The left hate everyone but especially the designated victims who they are ostensibly protecting.

cohenite

26 Aug 12 at 11:49 am
The Labor statists believe in big government, which necessarily impoverishes the common people, who are forced to pay for it. The Coalition/CLP believe in smaller government and the primacy of enterprise and initiative, which enriches the common people by leaving more money in their pockets. Of course, Newman was always going to take a popularity hit when he started abolishing tens of thousands of artificial jobs. The people who believe he should not have attempted this also believe in big government, the expensive, overbearing nanny state and the impoverishment of the common people. Mills in the NT will tread more softly because the public service is the biggest employer in town by far, but that imperative is receding as the resources industry booms.

Tom

26 Aug 12 at 11:49 am
Well. My comment was aimed at Mk 50.

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26 Aug 12 at 11:49 am
cohenite

The farming stuff to do with the carbon tax/ETS to me is way more inefficient, arbitrary and worse than the tax/ETS itself.

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26 Aug 12 at 11:50 am
and will be subject to the Finkelstein reforms

Only as long as Labor is in power. “Abos” was not used. How the hell is “niggers” equivalent to “abos”. Aborigines are descended from ethnically Indian and Tamil arrivals tens of thousands of years ago. They are no more closely related to African Negroid peoples than are Northern European occidentals. You seem to lump everyone who is dark skinned together. That is only not totally disgusting because we are so innured to the racism of the left that such vile behaviour is aleays expected

WhaleHunt Fun

26 Aug 12 at 11:52 am
At the same time we should be prepared to call a spade a spade:)

But we must never call an illegal slush fund a trust fund.

We must always apologise if we ever accidentally assert the soon to be eviscerated had acted correctly

WhaleHunt Fun

26 Aug 12 at 11:55 am
whenever there is a cut to the public service budget, the insiders ensure that the first jobs to go are those that interface with the public. Result: a bad public reaction

They are called Washington monument options. The political tactic used by agencies when faced with budget cuts. The most visible and most appreciated service that is provided by that entity is the first to be put on the chopping block.

The name derives from the National Park Service’s alleged habit of saying that any cuts would lead to a closure of the wildly popular Washington Monument.

For the cost over-runs on the new parliament house, one saving was no spending on the gardens and lawns in the grounds, making it look like an eye-sore.

The increase in stamp prices from 10 cents to 18 cents in 1974 was a Washington monument option. Hayden called their bluff.

Jim Rose

26 Aug 12 at 11:58 am
but public sector cuts will immediately fracture the alliance

What alliance?

By and large, indigenous people formed a moderately conservative, NT focused party and otherwise joined the CLP and got elected.

You are taking non white votes for granted as ALP profit a pendres.

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26 Aug 12 at 11:58 am
The name derives from the National Park Service’s alleged habit of saying that any cuts would lead to a closure of the wildly popular Washington Monument.

Seems like a lack of credible top level management by Cabinet as well.

Since when do serving bureaucrats enter Parliament and write their own budget bills?

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26 Aug 12 at 12:00 pm
Its a de facto political alliance and if you shift partners you expect something.

The ALP or Greens don’t own black people.

“Their” vote is not “rightfully” yours.

I hope you keep on disagreeing and keep on getting whacked at the polls.

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26 Aug 12 at 12:03 pm
CL chums the water and all he gets for his troubles is a small mullet.

Keith

26 Aug 12 at 12:06 pm
cohenite

The farming stuff to do with the carbon tax/ETS to me is way more inefficient, arbitrary and worse than the tax/ETS itself

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They’re different sides of the same AGW coin; the CO2 tax reduces the terrible gas at its source, while the destocked farms increase the ability of nature to quell the unleashed horror of AGW by sucking up the lethal gas.

Both sides are fucked as is AGW and so it this:

the whimsical suggestion of fiscal responsibility

cohenite

26 Aug 12 at 12:16 pm
Its fairly reveraling the mindset revealed by the ascention of some conservative Aboriginal pollies.

On the “caring sharing lefty” side theres a sense off offence that they have gone “off reservation” and are unge=rateful to the ALP.

On this site there is a bit of excitement that a new force for good is about to be unleashed by Aboriginals, for Aboriginals.

thefrollickingmole

26 Aug 12 at 12:19 pm
“Two out of three Queenslanders now disapprove of Newman’s cuts so why would impoverished aboriginals be any different?”

i don’t think that’s directed at Mr Newman as such but at the sad state of affairs that Labor left us is in, and yes people are wistful and wish jobs didn’t have to happen.

candy

26 Aug 12 at 12:21 pm
job cuts.

candy

26 Aug 12 at 12:24 pm
Aboriginals and TS Islanders make up less than 30% of NT population.
The other 70%+ had a vote too.
Just sayin in case the focus of the result is put too squarly at the feet of one group.

Jumpnmcar

26 Aug 12 at 12:24 pm
I understand the CLP only decided to find Aboriginal candidates in the bush as a cheap trick and are devastated that it actually worked. Poor dumb blackfellahs don’t realise they’re now going to be made fools of and ripped off blind by vicious scheming conservatives. They’ll soon regret the day they shunned the Labor welfare cheque.

Tom

26 Aug 12 at 12:38 pm
It’s impossible to even imagine – just as it’s impossible to imagine her volunteering for anything. Her idea of “community involvement” is setting up slush funds for unions.

Fleeced,
Her volunteering is not only unimaginable, it is antithetical to the socialist mindset and philosophy.

Keith

26 Aug 12 at 12:40 pm
Heres Racism explained in a short 5 minute instructional film.. (quite good, an Aussie version could be better)
(pinched from Ace of Spades)

thefrollickingmole

26 Aug 12 at 12:41 pm
Candy, you are pretty close to the truth there.
My job may be on the line as well. But so what? If I lose it, I’ll just have to get another one.

Winston Smith

26 Aug 12 at 12:42 pm
“…the disastrous “progressive” policies on Aboriginal welfare introduced by Whitlam and maintained for years with bipartisan support have been rejected by significant numbers of the “beneficiaries”.”

So maybe the Aboriginals are smarter than the rest of us? After all, they seem to have figured out that welfare destroys, something that a large proportion of the white population haven’t yet done.

Winston SMITH

26 Aug 12 at 12:58 pm
So maybe it was the intervention, but even more probably local government changes that destroyed power bases in small communities

Speaking of the intervention and power bases:

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&tab=s29&mediaid=107565&from=39&vid=52eb9398-593e-48c5-8ff3-af1d40434177&playlist=videoByTag:mk:en-AU:vs:0:tag:aunews_ausunday:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cat:ps:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A (watch from 10m40s)

Ivan Denisovich

26 Aug 12 at 12:59 pm
Pearson coming good in Qld. Bess Price gets a job in NT. two most powerful blackfellers theres ever been.

Will be interesting to watch policy changes and measure results.

Pickles

26 Aug 12 at 1:05 pm
This should be referred to the Equal Opportunity Commission. This is a blog with a high hit rate and will be subject to the Finkelstein reforms. This sort of behaviour must be stamped out.

What action(s) do you recommend be taken against Behrendt for her “sex with a horse” tweet?

Ivan Denisovich

26 Aug 12 at 1:08 pm
By my count 9 women won in a house of 25.

And I’m certain affirmative action was NOT a factor.

I thought the NT people were supposxd to be rednecks!

DaveF

26 Aug 12 at 1:09 pm
By my count 9 women won in a house of 25.

And I’m certain affirmative action was NOT a factor.

I thought the NT people were supposxd to be rednecks!

They are.

Unless those women are on Emily’s List (ie approved by our leftist betters), they don’t count.

Vilification of those nine women in 3…2…1…

JaneS

26 Aug 12 at 1:23 pm
By my count 9 women won in a house of 25.

And I’m certain affirmative action was NOT a factor.

Lordy, you mean they got through via merit? What a novel concept.

Gab

26 Aug 12 at 1:42 pm
Yes Gab, it is true.

Apparently women can be successful and achieve stuff WITHOUT any affirmative action policies to ‘nuture and support’ (wink wink) them. I know it is a shocking thought to consider, but I tell you – IT IS TRUE!!!!

johno

26 Aug 12 at 1:53 pm
This is good news for everyone, not just AbbottAbbott

Roll on the election

Cato the Elder

26 Aug 12 at 2:26 pm
This should be referred to the Equal Opportunity Commission. This is a blog with a high hit rate and will be subject to the Finkelstein reforms.

I’ve just noticed that Hammygar has completely stopped trying. He’s become like those monkeys in the zoo who crap in their hand then throw it and run.

John Mc

26 Aug 12 at 2:47 pm
Its better for federal Labor that they lost beacause, as in Queensland, it will bring voters back to federal Labor.

Yes, of course, Labor in NT lost deliberately to help JG at the federal level. So clever!

Boris

26 Aug 12 at 3:04 pm
Yes Gab, it is true.

Apparently women can be successful and achieve stuff WITHOUT any affirmative action policies to ‘nuture and support’ (wink wink) them. I know it is a shocking thought to consider, but I tell you – IT IS TRUE!!!!

And that’s why they created Emily’s List; to hunt down and try to prevent those who don’t bow to the Religious doctrines and dogmas of their, God, man, child, truth and justice hating Religion, from Achieving again.

International Women’s Year (IWY)
was the name given to 1975 by the United Nations.

The 1975 Mexico City Conference was attended by over a thousand delegates. Prominent attendees included:

Australia: Elizabeth Reid and Margaret Whitlam

This conference was also notable for passing the first “Zionism is racism” resolution passed at any UN-sponsored forum, thus preparing the way for United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379 1975 the following November.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Women%27s_Year

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on November 10, 1975 by a vote of 72 to 35 (with 32 abstentions), “determine[d] that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination“.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_3379

…and why is it that The Cat has suddenly been infected with code replacing apostrophes, as at Larry Pickering’s site?

true lilly

26 Aug 12 at 3:24 pm
mmm…and all but one apostrophe (in the wiki ‘international woman’s year’), became an apostrophe again, after I asked ‘that question’.

true lilly

26 Aug 12 at 4:07 pm
You have to be Tillman. Your diction is Birdesque.

Sure it is. hammygar is an anagram for Graeme.

Septimus

26 Aug 12 at 4:29 pm
Sorry Emily’s list. The sister’s are doing it for themselves.

(damn the song is stuck in my head now, grr)

DaveF

26 Aug 12 at 4:30 pm
We had an Emily’s List candidate dumped into our state seat a few elections ago.

She was turfed at the last election with one of the biggest swings in the state. Took a seat that had been safely Labor for over 40 years to safely Liberal. Not bad going.

The hilarious thing is that before the Sussex St cabal decided that we should be represented by a woman, the local Labor party branches had preselected….a woman. It just so happened that the woman the locals wanted wasn’t married into the Tripodi family, so Emily’s List was invoked to replace her with one that was.

Emily’s List is just a mechanism for replacing useful local representatives with useless Head Office favourites.

boy on a bike

26 Aug 12 at 5:55 pm
Gotta love Emily’ girls BOAB

Tal

26 Aug 12 at 5:57 pm
That would be ‘love‘ with a capital “F”, wouldn’t it, Tal.

true lilly

26 Aug 12 at 6:06 pm
Damn Straight true lilly
Julius, why don’t you take the night off,love?

Tal

26 Aug 12 at 7:34 pm
“I don’t think there are any implications coming out of the Northern Territory election for federal Labor,” Mr Swan told reporters in Brisbane.

“WAYNE Swan has shrugged off the federal implications of Labor’s Queensland election rout, arguing the campaign was fought on state issues.”

…. NSW……. Vic……?

No implications Wayne?

GSM

26 Aug 12 at 7:36 pm
Tal, I just wish more women woke up to the fact that NO ONE IS SAFE from those who PROUDLY CAMPAIGN FOR AFTER BIRTH “abortion”=INFANTICIDE, including Their Own SONS and DAUGHTERS.

true lilly

26 Aug 12 at 9:00 pm
lily it’s late, stop shouting

kae

26 Aug 12 at 9:37 pm
Julius just wants to know how (beyond an ideological level) a government shift from welfare and condescension to job and wealth creation could possibly help people whose lives had been ruined by poverty, joblessness and condescension?

wreckage

26 Aug 12 at 10:16 pm
The left is mystified and angry that Aborigines could ever vote for anything other than an endless supply of government grog money and welfare dependence.

Tom

27 Aug 12 at 2:21 am
Aborigines take the lead in sweeping the left from power:

The dramatic shift in the Top End’s political landscape will see decision-making power handed back to local indigenous people, including through a strong presence in parliament and regular, full-cabinet meetings held four times a year with panels of traditional leaders.

It will also increase outstation funding but tie it to education and employment outcomes, return control of local government to local communities, and introduce measures to allow remote schools to separate from the state system if they wish.

The radical change in approach to indigenous affairs seeks to reinvigorate the traditional structures of Aboriginal authority, and attempt to combat welfare dependency and paternalism by putting responsibility back on the shoulders of individuals.

Tom

27 Aug 12 at 2:48 am
Now we have to replicate this at the Federal level.

perturbed

27 Aug 12 at 3:40 am
Does this outcome demonstrate that the aboriginees do not vehemently oppose the NT intervention as shown on TV so many times?

Boris

27 Aug 12 at 3:49 am
It’s mainly the green left as epitomised by the ABC that hates the intervention.

Blogstrop

27 Aug 12 at 6:59 am
Awaiting moderation again? If you don’t want me commenting here, just say so and I’m gone. But I am not goingnto waste any more time composing if this is what happens.

[You seem to be going into auto moderation. Don't know why. Sinc]

Blogstrop

27 Aug 12 at 7:02 am
Boris, they are divided on the issue, and that is not going to change any time soon. The most vivid example of the division is the obscene abuse of Bess Price by one of the others who have made careers out of the grievance industry.

This means that the sane ones have taken a big step forward but the others will be entrenched in positions of power and influence for decades, so the game is still open as to whether sanity will prevail.

Poor Old Rafe

27 Aug 12 at 7:55 am
All election night counts are being re-checked Monday 27 August 2012
Absent, declaration, early and postal ballot papers will be added to the count from Tuesday 28 August 2012 to Friday 31 August 2012

Hopefully Friday will confirm Bess Price’s election.

Turnout looks low, due at least in part, to the Yuendumu family feud erupting on election day. Yuendumu result was decidedly against Bess, thanks to the thugs effectively closing down polling for a proportion of the day, and effectively scaring people out of voting.

Keith

27 Aug 12 at 10:59 am
It’s generally thought that the supershires is what did the ALP in out in the bush. Not much to do with welfare policy, Julia Gillard or the carbon tax.

Territory politics is hyperlocal in a way that the rest of the country can’t quite grasp.

Jacques Chester

27 Aug 12 at 12:42 pm
I assume Keith, there will be an investigation into this interference?

Winston SMITH

27 Aug 12 at 12:45 pm
Am I in moderation?

Helen Armstrong

27 Aug 12 at 1:28 pm
I have a comment re the election that does not appear to be going through.

Helen Armstrong

27 Aug 12 at 1:30 pm
Good result but Laybore still holds South Australia, Tasmania, Australia and Canberra. In two years they will be in government only in the ACT – in coalition with the ‘Slime.

Bill

27 Aug 12 at 2:09 pm
Helen, the new motto here appears to be everything in moderation.

blogstrop

27 Aug 12 at 2:40 pm
Winston,
I guess an investigation would need to take place under the relevant electoral laws, and I assume a complaint or request for review of some sort would need to be lodged by one of the candidates or parties involved.

Keith

27 Aug 12 at 2:48 pm
Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to akismet.

Jacques Chester

27 Aug 12 at 3:03 pm
Territory politics is hyperlocal in a way that the rest of the country can’t quite grasp.

PNG is the same way. Elctoral counts and preferences are dramatically different village to village, even in the same local area.

Driftforge

27 Aug 12 at 3:33 pm
Helen, the new motto here appears to be everything in moderation

Yes, well it was a little long …

Helen Armstrong

27 Aug 12 at 5:24 pm

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