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The media politburo of the United States

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There is almost no level of repellent behaviour the American media will not stoop to in defending Obama. If the anti-American turn in the Middle East over the past three years is not entirely due to Obama’s policies, they must nevertheless have played an important part. For Mitt Romney to have pointed this out is, however, apparently the only issue that that same media can think of focusing on in the midst of one of the most devastating diplomatic disasters I have seen in my life. You really do have to go back to Jimmy Carter to find a parallel. This story reviews the first craven and defensive statement issued by the US embassy in Cairo and then describes how this episode was turned into a Romney gaffe:

Back in Washington, the Obama administration distanced itself from its own embassy’s statement, which isn’t some minor outpost but the representative of U.S. policy in arguably the most important Arab nation. Soon, the Embassy began deleting messages from its official Twitter account, including the one standing by its initial statement.

This looked like amateur hour, and it also fed into the broader critique many Republicans have made of the Obama administration. So it seemed natural that Romney would release a statement Tuesday night condemning both the attacks and Obama’s weak response. But Obama campaign press secretary Ben LaBolt shot back and said he was ‘shocked’ Romney would play politics at such a time. And the media fell into line.

When Romney gave a press conference Wednesday, the questions focused on whether it was appropriate for him to criticize Obama at the time he did. Romney’s responses didn’t really matter, because reporters had already decided their narrative. Obama did not take any questions in his own press conference moments later.

In 2004, John Kerry routinely attacked President Bush’s handling of Iraq when things weren’t going well in the country. And the media dutifully reported on Bush’s foreign policy blunders in Iraq. But now, instead of scrutinizing Obama’s handling of a foreign policy crisis, the media has decided that the real story in Egypt and Libya is a Mitt Romney gaffe.

The American media thus not only owns the Obama presidency, it owns the disasters unfolding in the Middle East. Why it should want to take ownership of either really is beyond me. But being this is the way things are, the supposed “first drafts of history” are likely to be as false and misleading as if they had been written within the politburo itself which in their own way they have been.

Written by Steve Kates

September 13th, 2012 at 2:07 pm

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  1. You seem confused, Steve. The gaffe was saying the embassy’s statement – one in keeping with statements by previous administrations – was a ‘response’ to the attack, when it in fact preceded the attack. So Romney rushed his condemnation without waiting to see what the situation was, rushed to score political points off a tragedy, and displayed very poor judgement in doing so. But you want the media to somehow blame Obama for something?

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 2:27 pm

  2. The layers of institutions the “palace guard” of the Democrats have set up is astounding…if you ignore how much money the patronage system provides them:

    Just when you think Politifact can’t make any more of a mockery of itself than it already has – over and over and over and over again – they wade into the breach today on foreign policy. More specifically, they took issue with Mitt Romney’s statement today that “I think it’s a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values.”

    …Well, then! If the experts say so, it must not be an apology! Sure, Murphy is a fan of the Occupy movement. Sure, Bloom authors pieces like “10 Reasons Why Obama Will Be Re-Elected.” Sure, Howard-Hassman is a radical liberal who rips on “reactionary conservatism.” But these are non-partisan “apology experts,” dammit!

    The supposed watchdogs really need to be watched.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 2:28 pm

  3. Anyone who thinks this wasn’t done purposely to throw a spanner in the works of the US election isn’t awake.

    This is no ordinary group of thugs getting upset about religious figures – simultaneous attacks, what looks like a confected film designed to outrage, with no real audience – it’s been purposely designed to throw the US election debate onto the response on Washington to the Middle East. I don’t know why they would do that apart from just general destabilisation, but it’s there.

    It’s eery how similar this all is to the Carter era.

    brc

    13 Sep 12 at 2:31 pm

  4. It is quite disturbing how Obama’s polling seems to be disconnected from the reality of his performance. The MSM supports Obama because thats their job.

    But its happening here too. Check out the SMH, its all about Abbott. Apparantly people are starting to remember that Abbott was a violent misoginist as a student and want to be witnesses at his hanging. Seems its never previously occurred to them to mention it.

    Jannie

    13 Sep 12 at 2:41 pm

  5. Obama prosecuted an unauthorised, illegal war in Libya. Hillary declared mission accomplished. The result: Islamic terrorists in charge, the US ambassador dead.

    Earlier this year, Obama circumvented Congress to give the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt $1.5 billion.

    Heckuva job, Barry.

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 2:52 pm

  6. The embassy in Cairo is under siege whilst Obama is fund-raising/campaigning in Las Vegas.

    All class.

    Apparently noooobody in the Obummer admin or State Dep’t foresaw problems with US embassies on 9/11.

    I think this will be devastating for obummer despite the media.

    The MSM have shot themselves in the foot on this issue.

    The veil has dropped and they are oblivious.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 2:53 pm

  7. When Romney gave a press conference Wednesday, the questions focused on whether it was appropriate for him to criticize Obama at the time he did.

    Obama during the last election campaign, accusing President Bush and American soldiers of war crimes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 2:58 pm

  8. JournoList narrative fail:

    Administration officials: Romney was right, that statement from the Cairo embassy was awful.

    “People at the highest levels both at the State Department and at the White House were not happy with the way the statement went down. There was a lot of anger both about the process and the content,” the official said. “Frankly, people here did not understand it. The statement was just tone deaf. It didn’t provide adequate balance. We thought the references were inappropriate, and we strongly advised against the kind of language that talked about ‘continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.’”

    So there you have it.

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 3:03 pm

  9. Just in response to Jarrah’s typically ill-informed and irrelevant assertion and this is from Steve Kates’ linked Philip Klein article:

    There are conflicting reports as to whether this statement — a reference to an online American-made film mocking Islam — was issued before or after the assault on the embassy started. But on its Twitter account, the Embassy later reiterated that its statement “still stands.”

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 3:15 pm

  10. I thought Bush critic Jarrah would condemn the fact that Obama prosecuted an unauthorised, illegal war in Libya; Hillary declaring mission accomplished. Etc.

    But no.

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 3:23 pm

  11. Apparantly people are starting to remember that Abbott was a violent misoginist as a student and want to be witnesses at his hanging

    I am waiting for Abbot’s kindergarten teacher to come out and tell us what a naughty boy Tony was – pulling a little girl’s pigtails, and refusing to take his afternoon nap.

    Ronaldo

    13 Sep 12 at 3:41 pm

  12. I’m just waiting for the SMH and the Spencer St Soviet to reveal that 54 years ago Tony Abbott kept crapping his daks and expecting a woman to clean up after him.

    Ubique of Perth

    13 Sep 12 at 4:22 pm

  13. This Libya issue (and potentially Egypt too) will lose Obama votes unless he stamps his foot very firmly.

    He sucked up to the Arab countries as soon as he was elected, was rude to Israel and made it easy for jihadis to win in Libya and Egypt. If he doesn’t send in the drones and flatten a few of those nutters, he’ll be seen as a soft cock (which is exactly what he is).

    DavidLeyonhjelm

    13 Sep 12 at 4:42 pm

  14. steve, why do biased news outlets survive in competition?
    1. young females tend to be one of the most marginal groups of news consumers (i.e., they are the most willing to switch to activities besides reading or watching the news).
    2. young females often makes the consumption decisions for the household so advertisers will pay more to reach this group.
    3. Since young females tend to be more liberal on average, a news outlet may want to slant its coverage to the left. Newspapers sell space to advertisers tailor the way they cover politics to gain more readers.

    Competition forces news outlets to cater to their customer’s preferences. Mitt has a deficit among women voters because they are more to the left. asking the questions they did reflect those political preferences. the news market is efficient.

    Jim Rose

    13 Sep 12 at 4:47 pm

  15. I’m somewhat surprised the American have a relatively subdued response to the killing of their ambassador. this would seem like a really big thing. If an angry rabble of armed Americans went and trashed a few middle eastern embassies would this make these people show some respect? ;)

    Chris M

    13 Sep 12 at 4:50 pm

  16. So according to Jim Rose’s clinical objective analysis, the reason we have this farcical leftist Dem-MSM Complex Obama propaganda machine is because of the proclivities of young women.

    Before Jim Rose, whoda guessed that in a million years?

    He’s the renaissance man of political media

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 4:59 pm

  17. I’m somewhat surprised the American have a relatively subdued response to the killing of their ambassador.

    Look away from the Palace Guard that is the MSM, people are livid. On the OT I’ve posted a number of strong and considered statements by foreign policy experts that are livid.

    The fact the embassy had no effective security and an ambassador died. As Biden said – this is a BIG f**ken deal.

    The consulate where the American ambassador to Libya was killed on Tuesday is an “interim facility” not protected by the contingent of Marines that safeguards embassies, POLITICO has learned.

    Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed with three other Americans in an attack on the U.S. consulate in the city of Benghazi, where Libyan rebels ousted strongman Moammar Qadhafi last year.

    Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz said that Marines were not posted to the consulate, unlike the embassy in the capital, Tripoli.

    A defense official told POLITICO on Wednesday that the Pentagon is sending an elite team of about 50 additional Marines, called a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team, to reinforce the embassy.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 5:03 pm

  18. As Biden said To paraphrase Biden – this is a BIG f**ken deal.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 5:04 pm

  19. Young women read news? Who knew?

    blogstrop

    13 Sep 12 at 5:08 pm

  20. Oby + Homeland Security + 4 more years + locking it all in with as many SCOTUS appointments as possible………

    The US may have some States talking secession.

    Still, probably not, as the Tea Party discovered it’s real hard to be independent when you’re on the govt welfare teat via pensions and medicare.

    Alfonso

    13 Sep 12 at 5:13 pm

  21. When it was thought that “one American” may have been killed inLibya CnN were interviewing one of their specialists who was saying Libyans were becoming disullusioned with the west because after helping overthrow gadaffi the US had not done enough for the country. Typical western guilt – it is all our fault for not giving them the living standards they want.

    Once the seriousness was apparent CNN went NYT and merely suggested that Romney had jumped the gun and not seen the condemnation that the Administration had made after the disgraceful Egyptian State Dept approved report.

    Alan Moran

    13 Sep 12 at 5:20 pm

  22. JamesK, charges of a liberal bias require the existence of a news cartel in the biggest, most competitive media market in the world.

    What protects this cartel against defectors and new entrants? Why do media owners allow journalists to indulge their liberal views at the expense of profits?

    Profits/losses is a filter that culls media outlets that do not serve their markets:
    • Plenty of newspapers are closing, many more are losing money.
    • The electronic media is cutthroat. Programmes are cancelled if ratings fall.

    Face-up to it, what you perceive as media bias is a by-product of being on the political fringes.

    Jim Rose

    13 Sep 12 at 5:23 pm

  23. JamesK, charges of a liberal bias require the existence of a news cartel in the biggest, most competitive media market in the world. What protects this cartel against defectors and new entrants?

    Restrictions on broadcast TV licenses.

    dd

    13 Sep 12 at 5:29 pm

  24. Face-up to it, what you perceive as media bias is a by-product of being on the political fringes.

    Ooh Jim Rose…. that must be it.

    I’m biased and you’re not.

    Most journalists are educated in journalism schools which inculcate leftism.

    Journalism heroes are leftists.

    The Ochs-Sulzberger family trust controls roughly 88 percent of the NYT’s class B shares – the voting kind of shares.

    The money for newspapers came from advertising rivers of gold not direct balanced news consumerism.

    NYT (and the similarly owned/controlled Washington Post fed most smaller newspapers in the US.

    Most tv journos came from newspapers

    But really: ‘who knows?’ is the answer to the why of the perversity.

    However witness the incredibly rapid success of FoxNews to demonstrate that perversity of the cable market prior to Fox.

    What is absolutely certain however is that your pet young women theory is u-t-t-e-r garbage.

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it Lefty

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 5:41 pm

  25. Rococo Liberal

    13 Sep 12 at 5:48 pm

  26. The motives for the embassy attack were irrelevant. They were no defence for terrorism and murder. Terrorism is to be condemned and its purported motives never excused or even mentioned in denunciations.

    The US embassy in Cairo was clueless about free speech when it said “the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims” and “firmly [rejecting] the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”

    The first laws to be challenged by free speech movements at the dawn of the age of enlightenment were blasphemy laws.

    A few protestant religions regard the Mass is idolatry and the Pope as the antichrist. This protestant creed see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Confession_of_Faith is very hurtful to the religious beliefs of more than a few Catholics including the odd catholic martyr. apparently, the the Presbyterian Church of Australia still holds to the Westminster Confession of Faith

    In the realm of religious faith and political belief, sharp differences arise. In both fields, the tenets of one man may seem the rankest error to another.

    Governments have no legitimate interest in protecting any or all religions from views distasteful to them. It is not the business of government to suppress real or imagined attacks upon a particular religion.

    One of the things that separate democracies is our absolute right to propagate opinions that the government finds wrong or even hateful. No one has the right to be protected from being offended.

    Jim Rose

    13 Sep 12 at 5:48 pm

  27. What I meant to say was that Obama is a total blank

    Rococo Liberal

    13 Sep 12 at 5:49 pm

  28. Wow.

    I actually agree with Jim Rose.

    And he said it well.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 5:54 pm

  29. Obama shuts the proverbial barn door:

    A U.S. Marine team was sent to supplement security at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli, arriving there Wednesday. The unit is known as a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team, or FAST team. These typically number 50 Marines.

    Mr. Stevens is the first ambassador killed by hostile forces since 1979, when the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan was murdered in Kabul.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 6:04 pm

  30. jamesK, in recent years the number of newspapers slated for closure, bankruptcy or severe cutbacks has risen, especially in the United States, where the industry having shed a fifth of its journalists since 2001

    Rupert Murdoch once described his newspapers as “rivers of gold.” Murdoch said in 2005 that “sometimes rivers dry up” adding that ‘Certainly I don’t know anybody under 30 who has ever looked at a classified advertisement in a newspaper.’

    DD, entry restrictions do not matter in declining industries with many firms with many of their owners seeking to sell to avoid a forced closure.

    see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_newspapers

    Jim Rose

    13 Sep 12 at 6:06 pm

  31. Rupert Murdoch once described his newspapers as “rivers of gold.” Murdoch said in 2005 that “sometimes rivers dry up” adding that ‘Certainly I don’t know anybody under 30 who has ever looked at a classified advertisement in a newspaper.’

    True and I think we are seeing the ugly violent death throes of the small-in-number owned/controlled US MSM.

    The culture in journalism will be/is slower to respond.

    And that already slow change in culture is not helped at Fairfax and ‘their’ ABC where journalists and editors aren’t answerable to the boards of their respective corporations

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 6:17 pm

  32. His only chance to score his first root is with a lefty who is inspired by his caring side.

    From that perspective and that stance alone could his ‘arguments’ be seen as rationally based.

    Monst

    Take my word for it. Shielas don’t like caring effete type blokes . They pretend they do but they lie. If you’re attempting this as a first leg over strategy don’t bother because you won’t get even close to first base.
    If you need more advice, I’m here for you, but you know that anyway. I’ve been out of the leg over scene since marriage, but it it’s like knowing how to ride a bike. Trade tricks never change.

    JC

    13 Sep 12 at 6:22 pm

  33. Face-up to it, what you perceive as media bias is a by-product of being on the political fringes.

    Hmm, not sure how Fox News and the rollicking profits it makes by positioning itself in the yawning chasm on the centre right fits in here.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 7:02 pm

  34. Andrew Klavan on how the Left works to close down any discussion by the centre right – Shut Up!

    Jim the market you are talking about has been be regulated by popular cultural sources which until recently the centre right has not fought back against.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 7:08 pm

  35. Just in response to Jarrah’s typically ill-informed and irrelevant assertion and this is from Steve Kates’ linked Philip Klein article:

    There are conflicting reports as to whether this statement — a reference to an online American-made film mocking Islam — was issued before or after the assault on the embassy started.

    That article doesn’t mention any of the supposedly ‘conflicting’ reports. Which is hardly surprising, because I don’t think there are any. All the reports I’ve seen have pointed out that Romney was simply wrong in his claim. Some have gone so far as to call it a lie, but I’m generously assuming it was just a gaffe.

    “I thought Bush critic Jarrah would condemn the fact that Obama prosecuted an unauthorised, illegal war in Libya”

    What war?

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 7:23 pm

  36. Media competition ?

    Not so much.

    Journalists for Obama

    Myrddin Seren

    13 Sep 12 at 7:33 pm

  37. What an appalling failure Obama has been. What a disaster to lose an ambassador. Unbelievable.

    Abu Chowdah

    13 Sep 12 at 7:42 pm

  38. JC says

    “If you need more advice, I’m here for you, but you know that anyway. I’ve been out of the leg over scene since marriage, but it it’s like knowing how to ride a bike. Trade tricks never change.”

    and most women can see through the trade tricks of men like JC and tell them to get on their bike and go..not that JC would recall the no of flat tyres he had and had to get a taxi home.

    Alice

    13 Sep 12 at 7:53 pm

  39. There is an old saying …JC. Legend in your own lunchtime!

    Alice

    13 Sep 12 at 7:55 pm

  40. Maybe Hillary could give the eulogy: “We came, we saw… He died”

    Big Jim

    13 Sep 12 at 8:02 pm

  41. What an appalling failure Obama has been. What a disaster to lose an ambassador. Unbelievable.

    Absolutely. And what an insipid response.

    dover_beach

    13 Sep 12 at 8:04 pm

  42. What an appalling failure Obama has been. What a disaster to lose an ambassador. Unbelievable.

    Absolutely. And what an insipid response.

    Are you referring to the silence by the administration, then the process of throwing the embassy which was merely implementing the moronic appeasement policy of the Obama administration under the bus?

    It is the administration which set the policy, yet once again they dodged responsibility by just going absent.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 8:07 pm

  43. All the reports I’ve seen have pointed out that Romney was simply wrong in his claim

    Really?

    As usual Jarrah ignores the substance of my rebuttal of his previous comment whilst still able to double down on stupid where presumably on reflection, he thinks he’s on safer ground.

    He’s not.

    Specifically reliable reports I’ve seen have pointed to Romney being simply right.

    In particular Romney was precisely correct when his statement said: “It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attack”.

    That was indeed the response of the Cairo embassy after the attack until disowned by an un-named state Department official some 8 hours later. An half hour later Hilary Clinton tweeted more sensible if anodyne and soulless response.

    Romney’s statement – written hours before – was released from embargo at the same time as the Clinton tweets.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 9:00 pm

  44. I wouldn’t worry too much.

    I read about a recent poll where Americans’ confidence in their media was down in the 20s, and something like 70% of Americans believe the media is working to elect Obama, as opposed to some trifling % for Romney.

    So hope is not lost.

    I think the bias has got so blatant that even ordinary, disengaged people see through it.

    MDMConnell

    13 Sep 12 at 9:11 pm

  45. “It is the administration which set the policy, yet once again they dodged responsibility by just going absent.”

    No, according to CL, the White House objected strongly to the wording of the embassy statement.

    “As usual Jarrah ignores the substance of my rebuttal of his previous comment”

    No, I addressed it directly. Are you seriously this stupid?

    “That was indeed the response of the Cairo embassy after the attack”

    Repeating the lie doesn’t make it true, you dingbat.

    “Specifically reliable reports I’ve seen have pointed to Romney being simply right.”

    Name three.

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 9:11 pm

  46. Appeasing Islamists seems to be a great strategy:


    Day 2 in Cairo

    Egyptian security forces are firing tear gas at a crowd of angry protesters near the US embassy in Cairo. Some 30 protesters were injured and 12 arrested, journalists on Twitter quoted the Egyptian Interior Ministry as saying.

    Hundreds of protesters are gathering outside the US embassy in Cairo and hurling stones at security personnel, who are retaliating by firing tear gas and warning shots at the crowd.

    On Wednesday, several hundred protesters rallied in front of the embassy, chanting “leave Egypt” and demanding that the US apologize for an American-made film that mocks Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

    US embassy in Yemen stormed in film protest

    Protesters angered by an anti-Islam film made in the US have stormed the grounds of the American embassy in the Yemeni capital, Sanaa.

    Police shot in the air in an attempt to hold back the crowds, but failed to prevent them gaining access to the compound and setting fire to vehicles.

    Security forces have now regained control of the compound.

    Token

    13 Sep 12 at 9:15 pm

  47. What war?

    This one, Jarrah – this illegal one (NYT):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

    Or did you sleep through it – as Obama reportedly did as his ambassador was being killed?

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 9:16 pm

  48. Obama never really left Islam.

    He backs the Muslim Brotherhood over the Jews.

    No question.

    Reuters: Obama won’t meet Netanyahu over Iran row.

    The Hill: Obama offers to meet with new Egyptian President Morsi.

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 9:23 pm

  49. So perennial dingbat and occasional nasty lying lowlife Jarrah does formally agree with my critique that his false claim was irrelevant one way or the other.

    It’s good that although obviously very rare, the idiot is capable of pulling back from his more egregious stupidities whilst its bad that he simultaneously rejects the objective factual truth in Romney’s statement.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 9:30 pm

  50. “This one, Jarrah”

    Nope, no war there. Blockades and missile strikes do not a war make.

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 9:42 pm

  51. “Jarrah does formally agree with my critique that his false claim was irrelevant one way or the other.”

    Well, duh. Your ‘critique’ was entirely devoid of substance, or factual basis. You have been invited to provide evidence for your claims (disputed by every account on the record), but naturally you have declined, because you have none.

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 9:46 pm

  52. disputed by every account on the record

    Yawn. More lies from Jarrah.

    Really what’s new?

    Bill Kristol, Weekly Standard: Romney Is Right

    Halperin couldn’t be more wrong. Romney is right to bring home the weakness of the Obama administration, exemplified in the disgraceful statement issued yesterday, September 11, by the American embassy in Cairo—a statement, I believe, that would have to have been cleared by the State Department.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 10:03 pm

  53. What Happened in Cairo

    Yesterday, on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, an Egyptian mob stormed the U.S. embassy in Cairo, pulled down the American flag and burned it. In its place, they raised a black banner inscribed with the shehada (“There is no God but Allah, Mohamed is the messenger of Allah”), a pennant typically associated with al Qaeda.

    The embassy also issued a press release—condemning “the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims”—so abject that the White House felt compelled to put distance between itself and its diplomats under siege. An administration official (un-named and approx 10 hours after the attacks) told Politico that, “The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government.” However, the secretary of state’s comments yesterday on the matter are barely distinguishable from those the administration disavowed: “The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others,” said Hillary Clinton. “Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation.”

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 10:10 pm

  54. “Yawn. More lies from Jarrah.”

    ROTFLMAO (yes, that’s how it’s spelled, you aged moron). You just linked to something that DOES NOT show the statement was made after the attack. I repeat – are you seriously this stupid?

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 10:22 pm

  55. You just linked to something that DOES NOT show the statement was made after the attack. I repeat – are you seriously this stupid?

    Look you dense lying fucktard, Philip Klein was quoted by me at 3:15 pm and linked in Steve Kates original post:

    But on its Twitter account, the Embassy later reiterated that its statement “still stands.”

    Despite Jarrah typical denial of reality bullshit Romney was precisely correct.

    Here’s the timeline:

    5:28PM – Cairo Embassy tweets out three defensive comments, the last of which doubles down on the initial statement. It reads “3) Sorry, but neither breaches of our compound or angry messages will dissuade us from defending freedom of speech AND criticizing bigotry.” To this point there has been no comment, tweet, or statement defending free speech, only the statement/tweet criticizing those who abuse it.

    7:00-7:20PM – The Embassy puts out another tweet tripling down on their initial statement. “This morning’s condemnation (issued before the protests began) still stands. As does our condemnation of unjustified breach of the Embassy.” This tweet is later deleted.

    8:06PM – AP reports an attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya has resulted in one death and one injury.

    10:09PM – The Romney camp sends out a brief statement which reads, “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” The statement is embargoed until midnight.

    10:38-10:56PM – On the State Dept. Twitter feed, Hillary condemns the attack in Libya and confirms the death of an unnamed “officer” in Libya. One of the final tweets of the night reads “#SecClinton on the attack in #Libya: Let me be clear — there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.” However, two other tweets mixed in with her reaction to Libya reaffirm a commitment to religious tolerance and denouncing “any intentional effort to denigrate the beliefs of others.”

    I repeat Jarrah is incorrect and persists in his lies after its been pointed out to him.

    Conclusion: Jarrah is a lying tosser

    I know. I know.

    You knew that already.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 10:42 pm

  56. Nope, no war there.

    LOL.

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 11:00 pm

  57. Look you dense lying fucktard, Philip Klein was quoted by me at 3:15 pm and linked in Steve Kates original post:

    But on its Twitter account, the Embassy later reiterated that its statement “still stands.”

    Gosh, you really ARE that stupid. Twitter has nothing to do with Romney’s gaffe.

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 11:22 pm

  58. The Wall Street Journal editorializes: Romney Offends the Pundits (and fuctard leftist drones like Jarrah)
    Doesn’t he know he’s not supposed to debate foreign policy?

    [T]he Embassy in Cairo issued its statement saying that “The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.” It added that, “Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.”

    One problem is that the statement came not long before Egyptian protestors stormed the Embassy and some of them made it over a wall and into the compound. An Embassy Twitter post after the assault said its earlier statement “still stands.”

    Mr. Romney reacted late Tuesday with his own statement: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” He followed Wednesday with a press conference reinforcing his criticisms of the Administration’s “mixed signals” on “our values.”

    The Obama Presidential campaign jumped on the remarks Wednesday as inappropriate, yet a “senior Administration official” had told the website Politico later on Tuesday night that “The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government.” So the White House can walk away from its own diplomats, but Mr. Romney can’t criticize them?

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 11:24 pm

  59. “It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

    The gaffe that ended his campaign? Probably not, but damaging nonetheless.

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 11:27 pm

  60. “One problem is that the statement came not long before Egyptian protestors stormed the Embassy”

    Thanks for proving my point, you moron.

    Jarrah

    13 Sep 12 at 11:28 pm

  61. Twitter has nothing to do with Romney’s gaffe.

    Jarrah really is a lying tosser but as multiple sources I’ve provided (that he said earlier didn’t exist), prove: Jarrah lied and innocents died.

    Mitt Romney was correct and so leftist attack dog drone fucktards like Jarrah come out the primordial sludge to create a false narrative.

    Few if any now are buying the dross Jarrah regularly spews on these threads

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 11:32 pm

  62. Thanks for proving my point, you moron.

    It doesn’t prove your “point” you deceitful creep.

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 11:33 pm

  63. Liberty Quotes

    “You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don’t ever count on having both at once.” — Robert Heinlein

    kelly liddle

    13 Sep 12 at 11:41 pm

  64. Jennifer Rubin, Wa-po Right-Turn blog: Media and Obama out to lunch — Romney had it right

    Yesterday, virtually the entire liberal media and some on the right as well made the story of the day not about the murder of our diplomats, not about why we did not prepare for a potential assault, not about whether President Obama’s halting policies had come home to roost, but about why Mitt Romney, after a day of silence from the White House following an atrocious apology issued in Cairo (we now know issued without authorization), spoke out when he did.

    As I reported yesterday, an underling, according to the State Department, put out the apology online after it was rejected by the State Department’s Near East desk and he was told to wait. Violence ensued that day. Day turned to night in the United States and the White House was mute. So at 10 p.m. after an entire day without an adequate response, Romney put out a statement. What he said was valid then, as it remains valid in retrospect: “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

    That was not only correct, but the Near East desk at the Obama State Department essentially agreed. (The press seemed to think Romney didn’t know the timeline, but Romney advisors insist that he did. The Cairo embassy reiterated its sympathetic message after the Cairo embassy had been attacked.)

    Moreover, at about the same time Romney was speaking, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (after a day of fuming about the Cairo embassy’s decision to jump the gun) was saying essentially the same thing — and making sure to repudiate the Cairo apology

    RTWT

    JamesK

    13 Sep 12 at 11:49 pm

  65. If Obama insists he can take credit for killing Osama, he logically has direct ownership of the death of the ambassador.

    Abu Chowdah

    13 Sep 12 at 11:50 pm

  66. Liberty Quotes

    “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetuate it.” — Martin Luther King, Jr

    I think support of dictators might fall into this category. The above article seems to imply that supporting the previous dictator was a good idea and also that Obama should punish the diplomat or something. He already signed the NDAA, (bi-partisan policy) maybe should make the diplomat disappear. The next one would not dare to go against the boss.

    kelly liddle

    13 Sep 12 at 11:51 pm

  67. What we know is that the Barack Hussein Obama administration apologised repeatedly for free speech.

    We know that Obama’s incompetence is behind the death of Libya’s ambassador and the generalised mayhem and acts of war now being committed against American sovereign territory in the Middle East.

    We know that Obama’s illegal war has, for all intents and purposes, installed Al Qaeda in power in Libya.

    We know that six months ago Obama circumvented Congress to donate $1.5 billion to the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organisation.

    We know that Obama hates Israel.

    These are the known knowns.

    C.L.

    13 Sep 12 at 11:58 pm

  68. “You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don’t ever count on having both at once.” — Robert Heinlein

    Which actually is the point of Hobbes’ Leviathan, succinctly restated.

    Abu Chowdah

    13 Sep 12 at 11:59 pm

  69. The billion dollar war? Libyan campaign breaks Pentagon estimates costing U.S. taxpayers $2 million a day.

    Wow. That was a lot of money for a non war.

    Just as well Bush wasn’t waging it. Could have led to a protest.

    C.L.

    14 Sep 12 at 12:08 am

  70. “He received 78 percent of the Jewish vote in the 2008 election, but a nationwide Gallup poll in June showed him down to 64 percent backing versus Romney’s 29 percent.”

    CL And we know almost certainly the Jewish voters of the USA support Obama far more than the other candidate even though his support has dropped from 78%. So from what we “know” can we deduce that Jewish people of the US don’t like Israel either or something else?

    Sorry Abu I don’t know about Hobbes’ Leviathan.

    kelly liddle

    14 Sep 12 at 12:12 am

  71. So from what we “know” can we deduce that Jewish people of the US don’t like Israel either or something else?

    Feminazi are leftists first and champion women a long way second.

    Black leaders are leftists first and the interests of blacks a long way second. In fact it’s in the leaders interests to have a dependency culture among their flock electorate.

    American Jews are mostly secular religious leftist zealots.

    Most rhetorically support Israel but their true faith comes forst religiously held leftism comes first

    JamesK

    14 Sep 12 at 12:56 am

  72. Must see: Michelle Malkin’s righteous attack on pro Islamic terror coward, Barack Hussein Obama – the ‘president’ who apologised to the murderers who killed one of his ambassadors.

    C.L.

    14 Sep 12 at 1:30 am

  73. Shocking new revelation (via Instapundit):

    Marines at Egypt embassy not permitted live ammo.

    While Marines are typically relied on to defend U.S. territory abroad, such as embassies, these reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security…

    So the Obama State Department outsourced the job of protecting American territory from Muslim terrorists… to Muslim terrorists.

    C.L.

    14 Sep 12 at 1:41 am

  74. Most rhetorically support Israel

    This is debatable. In all opinion polls Israel ranks a lot lower in the minds of US Jewish voters than issues such as the economy.

    Boris

    14 Sep 12 at 1:53 am

  75. “Who on earth is running the @USEmbassyCairo twitter account? http://is.gd/85l5LY Hello @StateDept, are there any Responsible Adults about?”

    sdog

    14 Sep 12 at 2:14 am

  76. Bolta summarises events revealing why Jarrah “rushed his condemnation without waiting to see what the situation was”.

    Not until that night – around 10:06pm – did US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton – but not President Barack Obama – implicitly disown the US embassy’s statement and (limply} defend the principle of free speech…

    …It is unclear whether Republican nominee Mitt Romney knew of Clinton’s words when some 19 minutes later his campaign released his own statement…

    So which will Jarrah, the contributor who claims he never lies, do:

    1. Be noble enough to admit he was wrong, due to more information coming to light and your note his over his mistaken assertions, or

    2. Be noble enough to admit he was wrong, due to fact he allowed his prejudices to judge a situation before all the facts were known and note his regret over his mistaken assertions,

    3. Prove how small he is and revert to the screaming howler monkey personality he takes on when he is found in error and fling the word “LIAR” around like dung.

    We’ll see if an adult emerges out of this.

    Token

    14 Sep 12 at 8:09 am

  77. Marines at Egypt embassy not permitted live ammo.

    While Marines are typically relied on to defend U.S. territory abroad, such as embassies, these reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security…

    No marine guards at the Benghazi embassy. No live ammo in the Cairo embassy.

    1. The administration set the policy. This links to the White House.

    2. Clinton is the minister responsible for this, is the Obama administration going to force her to resign over the fact an ambassidor & 3 aids died (YES 4 PEOPLE) due to this incompetence?

    Token

    14 Sep 12 at 8:12 am

  78. Tim Blair: MITT RIGHT, ME WRONG

    Yesterday I agreed with the UK Daily Telegraph‘s Tim Stanley on what seemed to be a serious Mitt Romney blunder.

    Now Jennifer Rubin corrects matters. Happily, I got this one very wrong.

    But we already knew Tim Blair was a bigger man than Jarrah.

    JamesK

    14 Sep 12 at 10:16 am

  79. C.L. “Must see: Michelle Malkin’s righteous attack on pro Islamic terror coward, Barack Hussein Obama – the ‘president’ who apologised to the murderers who killed one of his ambassadors.”

    Wow, that girl is something. She’s got balls, brains and beauty. The world needs more of this.

    Jannie

    14 Sep 12 at 12:20 pm

  80. Thanks for that MM clip, CL.

    “The buck stops with you, buddy!”

    Bob Sewell

    14 Sep 12 at 1:30 pm

  81. Shocking new revelation (via Instapundit):

    Marines at Egypt embassy not permitted live ammo.

    The Marines have issued a statement refuting this point, the Marines in Egypt had live ammo. They do note that there are NO MARINES in Libya and the State Department had used “Contractors”.

    Sounds like a Cl*sterf**k that will find its way back the Hillary here.

    Token

    14 Sep 12 at 9:14 pm

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