Incentives, not redistribution.
A brilliant column by Noel Pearson on the white ghetto of Claymore. Unbelievably, the previous Labor administration was going to get rid of the problem by bulldozing the suburb!
Ferguson reported the NSW Labor government resolved with its federal counterpart to bulldoze Claymore and start again – apparently as easy as pressing the erase button on the social planners’ electronic whiteboards. After demolishing 90 houses the policy has been on hold because the O’Farrell government says there is no budget to complete the plan.
Pearson identified the same cycle of disadvantage that he was trying to overcome in his own part of the world. The difference is that the eyes of the world are to some extent focussed on the problems in the outback but the white ghettos are under the radar until something happens like a riot and people start throwing stones at paramedics and ambulances.
Kerry O’Brien laid out some statistics: 2.2 million Australians live below the poverty line. More than 600,000 children under 15 live in households where no one has a job. He went on: “So what do we draw from that? I guess that in one of the wealthiest countries on the face of the earth, with an economy that’s largely flying high and unemployment quite low, we still can’t crack Australia’s significant cycle of poverty.” O’Brien’s point is a cliche, but being so doesn’t make it untrue. What is to be done about places such as Claymore?
This is the signal to blame the one percent, neoliberalism, capitalism, mining magnates and deregulation, demanding redistribution of wealth and increased welfare. Pearson rejects that road.
We must first understand what we are dealing with. Four Corners assumes we are dealing with poverty. I would say we are not just dealing with poverty but something we have been talking about for a decade: passivity. In this respect indigenous policy discussion is ahead of the mainstream.
True, it is about growing up poor, but it is more than that. Poverty and passivity are distinct conditions. Every Australian family with working-class origins that ascended into the middle class during the past century endured poverty. Through the generations and with opportunity they rose up into the world of advantage.
What the families of Claymore are enduring is more profound than poverty. They are the victims of a welfare state that has harnessed a vast passive clientele, and in the process crippled their chances of converting opportunity into social progress.
American welfare reform thinker Lawrence Mead counselled there were two urgent priorities for children in troubled communities: first, they must see an adult in their family working; second, they must be sheltered from violence.
Labor administrations since the 1970s have laid waste to the values and the incentives that used to drive people from poverty into the middle class. We are now living with Gough’s grandchildren, the third generation unemployed. Not a pretty sight.
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Why does the ALP see fit to regulate industries out of exist either by decree or through excessive occupational licensing?
The ALP needs to clear the decks of airheads and other non-pragmatists.
.
29 Sep 12 at 8:03 pm
See Judith on the role and mindset of the shop stewards. Actually you don’t need to see, you know already. Plus penalty rates on weekends.
Poor Old Rafe
29 Sep 12 at 8:11 pm
Poverty and passivity are distinct conditions.
Poverty in itself is not the problem but can induce passivity in certain circumstances. That’s what Seligman’s famous dog studies on learned helplessness are pointing towards. Unfortunately the twit went to create positive psychology, just another steaming pile of shit from psychology. The studies of Adele Diamond on children living in impoverished conditions are frightening in their implications and go a long way toward explaining the consistently lower academic scores, poor impulse control, and drug abuse. The recent animal studies on how a stress response can collapse dopamine tone also points to the dangers of raising children in bad environments. The fact that one person can overcome these limitations does not mean all can. It is like arguing everyone can run a 4 minute mile. Life is not that simple.
This problem is much more complex than simply about the evils of welfare. Poverty and passivity are distinct conditions but poverty most certainly will increase the rates of passivity.
Dead Soul
29 Sep 12 at 8:40 pm
Oh yes,Noel Pearson! There was an excellent exposure of this extreme right-wing man in the SMH’s Good Weekend a month or two ago, witten by Jane Cadzow exposing him for the arsehole he really is. He uses his aboriginality against his own people to espouse the most despicable Howardisms.
Come on Rafe, surely you can do better than quote this appalling creature.
hammygar
29 Sep 12 at 8:45 pm
Conservatives are often labelled as heartless capitalists by those on the left who want to take the easy, fake compassionate high ground.
This is done on the local level, the national and international levels, in a posturing parade of vanity and betrayal. The process kills productive industries and the ladders of opportunity resting upon them. The social contract is now a threadbare flag or standard, but a facsimile is waved in front of the populace in the form of a tissue of politico-media lies.
We are seeing the re-emergence of the 20th century class war rhetoric as the left seek to bolster their bankrupt positions. The nomeklatura will surf through to a safe harbour while those they pretend to champion will fail to thrive, then sink without trace.
blogstrop
29 Sep 12 at 8:47 pm
I wonder if there is any such thing as right-wing which is not extreme.
There are, of course, right-wing think tanks but then there are apparently no such things as ‘left-wing’ think tanks (or ‘left-wing’ journalists if it comes to that) if the MSM is to be believed.
Aqualung
29 Sep 12 at 9:17 pm
Yes Hammy, “right wingers” include those who deliver speeches in honour of Ben Chifley…other well known right wingers include Anna Bligh and Barry Jones.
.
29 Sep 12 at 9:39 pm
Good old hammy can always be relied on to attack the man when he can’t attack the argument.
Bronson
29 Sep 12 at 9:40 pm
The point is to get off welfare benefits and into work. The effect of “progressive” policies since Whitlam has been to undermine the moral framework, also the standard of public education, and put in place perverse incentives and the entitlement mentality.
Poor Old Rafe
29 Sep 12 at 9:40 pm
Above.
No.
Correlation doesn’t necessarily always infer causation. In this case, it does.
People with jobs aren’t bludgers. Nor are they suffering generational poverty or poverty/welfare traps.
They are also relied upon when the Government destroys industrious sectors carte blanche, unemploys people by imposing usurious occupational licensing and ruins the economy through loose credit and excessive spending, and when people develop a sense of entitlement.
ferbo. Shove your half truths up your well lubed and abused arsehole.
.
29 Sep 12 at 9:45 pm
Rafe
Sent in a response to that appallingly racist comment by the self-revealed white supremacist hammygar, is it caught in the spam filter?
Mk50 of Brisbane
29 Sep 12 at 9:49 pm
That’s great to know, Phil! We can sit on our asses and food will continue to be grown and factories will still churn out goods.
BTW, what’s your take on Nidal Hasan? I nearly forgot to ask.
Fisky
29 Sep 12 at 9:55 pm
No alternative in Australia? Are you serious?
Of course, what is pursuasive is a matter of opinion, but I think it is fairly obvious thatr the incentives are the key.
Boris
29 Sep 12 at 9:57 pm
Here’s what the personal utopia of Phil, Hammy, Sando and THR had to say about work:
It’s always hilarious to see the Far Left undergo the same contortions over “work” that they do over “faith” and “traditional family values” where the Islamic Far Right are concerned.
Fisky
29 Sep 12 at 10:00 pm
Of course. That’s what the left in Australia have supported personal income tax rates of 60% or more previously, cutting in at relatively low levels of income.
You value not working over working. You bark eating peon.
.
29 Sep 12 at 10:24 pm
My understanding is that the left now support tax rates higher than 60%. Not maybe mainstream ALP but a lot of commentators say that we need higher tax to pay for all the important and crucial services the public wants. The Greens say th public is happy to pay more tax if it is used for the right causes.
I don’t share LDP’s most radical positions on tax but I still call myself libertarian and joined the LDP because I think we need to go back to basics and see what the purpose of the government is and what a reasonable tax rate is. It can be high but if it overtakes the economic growth, then we are in deep trouble.
Boris
29 Sep 12 at 10:32 pm
Hammygar, do shut up. You are the perfect definition of a mindless troll. For a stupid comment, press button A. For a moronic reference, press button B. To flush down the toilet, press button C.
Option C please.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
29 Sep 12 at 11:05 pm
Far too kind, Dot, far too kind.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
29 Sep 12 at 11:09 pm
“Oh yes,Noel Pearson! There was an excellent exposure of this extreme right-wing man in the SMH’s Good Weekend a month or two ago, witten by Jane Cadzow exposing him for the arsehole he really is. He uses his aboriginality against his own people to espouse the most despicable Howardisms.”
Damn those extreme abo neocons! Can I say that? I assume its okay as long as they are on the right. Oh, and as long as the racism comes from the left, it is surely okay.
Extreme Howardisms? What would they be, ya Boofhead?
Twodogs
30 Sep 12 at 12:18 am
Where’s the evidence that the availability of social welfare breeds passivity? Correlation is not causation.
In the absence of welfare people will either become active workers or starve and vanish. In the absence of welfare there is an absolute absence of passivity.
The evidence? show me a single mammal surviving passively without working in any environment that has ever existed.
Good dose of starvation prompts proactivity, or death , EVERY time.
WhaleHunt Fun
30 Sep 12 at 12:19 am
There is nothing special or obligatory about work.
Correct
We are all able to die quietly without annoying workers, other than the smelly bloated corpse being noisily torn by crows and the buzzing of the fog of flies hatched from the ex-maggots.
Work or die. Just don’t winge about your choices.
WhaleHunt Fun
30 Sep 12 at 12:26 am
If you include professional criminals of all kinds as part of the workforce. They are not passive, but not productive workers either.
Boris
30 Sep 12 at 12:45 am
Cadzow is basically a left wing muckraker.
Janet Albrechtsen is Australia’s version of Ayn Rand.
Whatever, crazy lady. Just don’t throw cats at me.
Fortunately she’ll be unemployed soon when FXJ crumbles.
.
30 Sep 12 at 12:54 am
Burn in Hell, Hammy, you racist dickhead.
perturbed
30 Sep 12 at 2:28 am
Hammy, you are not only a troll, but a robot, like something out of the 1970s Victorian Socialist Left and your whole purpose in being here is to read out paragraphs from SL pamphlets. Sorry to break it to you, but the Soviet Union died 23 years ago, you’re a relic living in the past and your dead heroes were all mass murderers.
Tom
30 Sep 12 at 2:52 am
At the end of the day, hammygar, you have no solutions.
Aboriginal conservatives do such as Noel Pearson do. Solutions which, where they have been tried, have been successful in improving the conditions of Aboriginals living in desperate circumstances.
Unless you are able to help, please don’t attack those who are helping.
2dogs
30 Sep 12 at 3:57 am
Yes, child see, child do. If in their own household, or even neighbourhood, the majority are on welfare, then what positive role models are around for children to emulate, to be shown that there is a different existance – and if they want to better themselves, then it’s not only education, but work as well.
The Left don’t want happy, productive, aspirational people – they want people caught in the welfare trap, endlessly, generationally in thrall to a Socialist Government, voting them in, becoming one of their victim groups.
A Lurker
30 Sep 12 at 5:05 am
When men of aboriginal background are vilified by the unrepentantly racist Left in a manner as offensive as they do to all other citizens you know you are in a post racial society.
Token
30 Sep 12 at 6:23 am
I take it you mean “motherhood” and “religion”?
In the case of motherhood, getting pregnant is a purely private affair and traditionally it was up to the father to “bring home the bacon” to support the non-working mother. However, the destruction of the family unit by the Left has meant other breadwinners (taxpayers) have had to step in and support the feckless.
Religion – whilst worship itself is not “work” for the worshippers, in most religions, it is directed and managed by priests; and those priests are paid via donations from the congregation. The priests do have a job, and most of them work pretty hard. The priests are employed and paid to provide services to congregants – to pray for the souls of the dead, to comfort the sick and dying, to care for the bereaved etc etc etc.
Did you have any other activities in mind?
boy on a bike
30 Sep 12 at 7:07 am
Minimising your tax is the holiest of all endeavours, that way mendicants and rent seekers get as little cut as possible. The 11th Commandment. Teach your children well.
Alfonso
30 Sep 12 at 7:24 am
America is having the natural racism at the heart of the Left thrown in their faces as well:
Nothing makes a lefty angrier and let’s them unleash their inner fears and hatred than a black person getting above their station.
Token
30 Sep 12 at 7:26 am
Hammy seems really angry here, I had to go back to his comment to check that he actually used the term ‘appalling creature’
It is very dehumanising & is the type of thing that is typically used to justify genocide. I fear that Pearson probably wouldn’t survive the revolution.
In Hammy world, Aboriginals are very useful as victims. There is a lot of anger that at least one of them is ‘going off reservation’ so to speak.
It is all very ‘Uncle Tom’ when you think about it.
Richard D
30 Sep 12 at 7:38 am
With this one I have to go to bat for the ALP (gasp!).
In my suburb was a housing commission precinct which was a clone of the one in Maquarie Fields. It was bulldozed. The houses were decrepit and the concentration of welfare recipients created a culture of hopelessness.
Since that time the government has built quite a few low/medium density blocks whereever they could get available land. These blocks are spread around the suburb.
It seems to be working. Many of the people from the housing commission precinct are still around but the whole suburb has improved.
I have not yet read Mr Pearson’s column yet, so I can’t say whether Claymore was in a similar circumstance as my suburb. Probably not. But I will give credit to the NSW ALP government for recognising that past policy of ghettoising welfare is a terrible idea then doing something about it.
Unfortunately this good action was far outweighed by the many other appalling policy disasters, so I have no regrets them last year being cast out into the wilderness for a very long time.
Bruce
30 Sep 12 at 8:15 am
You all really need to read Jane Cadzow’s expose of Pearson. It reveals a totally different persona to the romanticised version you all seem to be living with. This man is no angel.
To accuse me of racism is just nonsense. Every person needs to uphold civilised standards of behaviour no matter what his heritage. Unfortunately Pearson lets his heritage down by his behaviour. Just look at the abusive language he uses as revealed in the first few paragraphs of this article.
hammygar
30 Sep 12 at 8:20 am
Nothing of substance in that so-called ‘expose’. Just a whole bunch of hand-waving, assertion and innuendo. I challenge you to sum up in one or two sentences what the charge is. Can’t do it, can you?
dd
30 Sep 12 at 8:31 am
If you don’t believe in heritage (ie race) then it doesn’t make sense to “let your heritage down.”
At any rate this is an unattainable standard. Nobody can be an unblemished standard bearer for their heritage and their ancestors.
dd
30 Sep 12 at 8:34 am
Hammy, the Cadzow piece is a character assassination of Pearson on behalf of the luvvie left, because he has defied the white Aboriginal industry and the leftwing “solution”: welfarism. And you’re upset because he … uses swear words.
You’re a racist Uncle Tom doing his bit to tear down Pearson. Talk about see-through! As I’ve said elsewhere, you’re like a relic of the 1970s Victorian Socialist Left: a dumb, doctrinaire Stalinist.
Tom
30 Sep 12 at 8:45 am
character assassination of Pearson on behalf of the luvvie left, because he has defied the white Aboriginal industry and the leftwing “solution”: welfarism.
Yes, according to the luvvies and deranged leftists like hamneggs, Pearson has spoken above his station.
Gab
30 Sep 12 at 9:12 am
The hammster is right. You do need to read Jane Cadzow’s slime job to see just how nasty and vicious the love media can be to anyone who steps out of line. A hatchet job from start to finish with one sole purpose – to blacken Noel Pearson’s name.
johno
30 Sep 12 at 9:15 am
In any case Pearson is your classic Qld ALP type. He was certainly not brought up a Joh lover, and was quite close to Beattie. The luvvie left and those in the Aboriginal industry only hate him because he doesn’t stick to the script.
Entropy
30 Sep 12 at 9:17 am
Take heart Hammy and Bruce,the white trash of Claymore and similar ghettos still vote Labor.What’s needed are more of these social cesspits to ensure Labor’s continuing reign and they are working on it,flat out.
Lew
30 Sep 12 at 9:47 am
My reading of the Cadzow article is that Pearson was abusing a QLD ALP government delegation.
More power to him; the Bligh government was endlessly corrupt and incompetent; second in recent times only to the Gillard abomination.
In the dystopia of Judge Dredd, 99% of the population are unemployed and inclined towards faddism and fetishes.
Maybe the ALP is trialling Claymore to see how things pan out: Judge Gillard perhaps.
cohenite
30 Sep 12 at 10:14 am
Cadzow is simply a paid loser who opens her mouth and spouts asinine, racist horseshit.
Fuck off you racist piece of shit. People with your backwards view of white privilege in the NT have been repudiated. People like you, Cadzow and Sir Joh all belong in the same boat. Only if you’d fuck off to some racist shithole like Zimbabwe.
Soon we will have wall to wall coalition Government. No one is interested in ALP tricks like bringing back the noble savage or buying them trinkets ala Gough.
Society wants Aborigines to be genuinely better off. You just want them as a spiritual spittoon to facilitate, along with a mirror and a selection of garden vegetables, ritual self abuse of yourself.
.
30 Sep 12 at 11:01 am
Close to a liberty quote, Snic.
Tom
30 Sep 12 at 11:17 am
test
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:23 am
hammygar, you filthy racist c*cksucker.
Oh, so wanting Aborigines to have jobs is bad in your view eh? Typical left-wing racist scumbag. Hammygar hates it when people who are not white have jobs. Why, how can he sneer at the ‘darkies’ then?
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:24 am
hammyracist says that Aborigines who want to improve their lives are ‘uppity’.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:25 am
And of course hammyracist does not want any black person quoted on the internet. hammyracist thinks the internet’s for white supremacist aryans like him only!
Yup, noticed your ‘whiter than white’ gravatar.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:28 am
So, you vile piece of filth, why don’t you go back to your white supremacist sites with your buddy Les the racist? You two make a lovely pair of white supremacists.
They reveal themselves to be racists. Every. Single. Time.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:29 am
Every leftard troll we get here eventually vents his racist bile at the Cat. Every one.
This scabrous little bastard is just the latest. back to that site you and your ilk like Les so love. What was it, Scumfront?
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:30 am
I’m guessing it’s John Howard Mr Hammygar hates, and not Noel Pearson as such.
candy
30 Sep 12 at 11:32 am
I utterly detest left wing racists (but I repeat myself). Can we please ban this one like we banned that white supremacist scum Les?
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:32 am
The clue with Hammygar is that his avatar is James Scullin, only the third worst PM after Gillard and Whitlam.
But like all lefties Hammy misses the necessary Conservatism that is really the default position of all human beings, so he transmutes it on to the noble savage aborigines who have after all been the same for forty thousand years. hammy is thus indulging in Conservatism by proxy. It’s OK for Aborigines to stay exactly the same in the same fly-blown hovels, because their culture must be preserved. But if you mention that Judeo-Christian culture is worthy of even the slightest conservation, Hammy and his half-educated, sentimentalist twats will howl ‘oppression’ to the skies.
That is the inner contradiction of leftist feeling (I don’t say thinking, because a leftist worldview eschews coming to conclusions through ratiocination).
What solution to this leftist curse?
Scorn and derision.
Sinistra delenda est!
Rococo Liberal
30 Sep 12 at 11:41 am
Candy, Pearson is just applying Howard’s view of ‘aspirational Australians’ to Aborigines. Pearson wants Aborigines to have jobs, and to escape the destruction the left has enforced on them by paying them to sit down and do nothing. That is incredibly destructive of any human being.
That’s all. Pearson wants Aborigines to be just like any other Australian in terms of human dignity, employment, opportunity etc
hammyracist quite obviously wants Aborigines to remain in their current degraded state.
he’s a racist and a hater )so of course he hated Howard – goes with the turf for scum like hammyracist), Look at his gravatar description, he’s got a hard-on for Stalinism and Leninism, two of history’s greatest totalitarians and mass-murderers!
hammyracist the anti-western communist
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Capitalism, BTW, has reduced the poverty rate of our entire species from 95% of the human race in 1820 to 10-15% now (*). hammyracist calls this ‘immeasurable human harm’. Can’t have all those dark-skinned and yellow-skinned people not being in poverty, says the hammyracist swine.
Oh no, this is that foullest of human filth, the communist collectivist mass-murder-loving racist ideologue.
And he himself glories in it. He just does not want you to realise what he really is.
* see S. Bhalla (2002) Imagine There’s No Country: Poverty, Inequality and Growth in the Age of Globalisation, Institute of International Economics, Washington
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 11:48 am
Candy, Mr. Hammyracist has shown his true colours, and yes, you are right, he is a visceral Howard Hater from way back. That particular hatred is in their DNA now and as a programmed robat, Whambamham is full of it.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 Sep 12 at 11:53 am
.. I quite like robat, but it is of course, robot
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 Sep 12 at 11:54 am
Press Button C, guys. Flush the turd.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
30 Sep 12 at 11:59 am
Mk50 I totally agree with you about Noel Pearson.
Perhaps Mr Hammygar does admire him a bit too, but his what I see as irrational hatred of John Howard has got the better of him in this instance.
candy
30 Sep 12 at 12:00 pm
There are many political and social policy things I do not agree with Noel Pearson on. However, they are completely irrelevant in the face of his Crusade to free a whole bunch of my fellow Australians from the ghastly and lethal degradation of the welfare traps the Australian left has forced them into.
Liberating the Aborigines from left-wing welfare degradation is something I back absolutely. More strength to Noel Pearson’s arm.
hammyracist just wants ‘the blacks’ to stay in a nice degraded state so he can sneer at them and enjoy their misery. Why not? His mob caused it.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 12:56 pm
Hi guys. I’m just amazed that you’ve reacted the way you have to a troll. He/she must be rolling in the aisle at his success. Nearly every comment on this thread since his/her initial comment refers to him/her. What was that saying / “Oh yes – “don’t feed the troll”.
Don
30 Sep 12 at 1:02 pm
Surely the Kruddster belongs in this list.
After all, Scullin came to power just before the 1929 Wall Street crash, but unlike Kruddy, he had a competent Treasurer (Lyons) who didn’t get suckered in by the Keynesian scam, which helped to limit the damage caused in Australia by the 1930s depression.
Kruddy came to power prior to the North Atlantic financial crisis, over-reacted and completely stuffed the Commonwealth’s budget.
Admittedly, Scullin sacked Lyons, the Labor Party split and Scullin’s government was chucked out after losing a No Confidence vote in Parliament. Lyons then led the newly formed United Australia Party to a massive win in 1931. So Hammy’s Scullin certainly belongs in the long list of failed Labor PMs
johno
30 Sep 12 at 3:30 pm
Don – see hammyracist’s response. He’s hurt and offended that he’s been stupid enough to out himself as a devout practising racist. And that he’s been called on it.
He’s also not posting here – which trolls in triumpal mode do.
Identifying and tagging a racist as a racist every time it raised its filthy head is more important than a troll’s usual trolling anyway.
Welcome to the gentle art of racist troll execution: it’s the art that lies beyond routine troll squishing. We squish such filth by inches, they are executed much more slowly.
And hammyracist truly is filthier filth than normal racists – he’s a communist too.
Mk50 of Brisbane
30 Sep 12 at 3:36 pm
Communists urge the wholesale slaughter of the middle class.
This is a seemingly outrageous, however, undeniable fact.
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30 Sep 12 at 4:29 pm
So hamneggs thinks Noel Pearson is an “appalling creature.” A “Creature”, he’s lower than a Man in hamneggs estimation. This is stomach turning racism, truly sickening.
I think hamneggs is just expressing the ALPs anger that their “black boys in the bush” voted against them in the NT election and voted in a conservative government. I see the same thing here in WA where aboriginal communities vote to allow mining or gas projects to proceed so that their community will benefit, and their children will obtain jobs and trades training.
That won’t do for the lefties, they want to keep them in grinding poverty to retain a voting block out in the bush. Nothing annoys these lay-about lefties more than seeing their “clients” deciding to do something about their position in life, and to give their children a future outside of the reservations.
old bloke
30 Sep 12 at 6:39 pm
Im hoping the mining boom lasts for at least another 5 years.
Not least because Im seeing a real change for the better among some of my clients/families.
The ladies are seeing young blokes with flash car sand the old “they wont give me a job cos Im black” isnt applicable, the bar has been lifted.
If its lifted for long enough an Aboriginal bloke pulling in $80K plus will become the norm, not welfare.
Capitalism will save the Aboriginal more than 50 years of welfare.
thefrollickingmole
30 Sep 12 at 7:03 pm
Damn straight, TFM. Damn Straight.
Winston Smith
30 Sep 12 at 8:58 pm
We usually call that “work”. I hope this makes things clearer for you.
wreckage
1 Oct 12 at 12:42 am
We usually call the alternative “work”. The satisfaction of “work”, and the reward of material payment for that “work” tend to be persuasive, once one has acquired the confidence.
wreckage
1 Oct 12 at 12:46 am
We usually call the alternative “work”. The satisfaction of “work”, and the reward of material payment for that “work” tend to be persuasive, once one has acquired the confidence.
wreckage
1 Oct 12 at 12:46 am
Marriage: America’s Best Antidote to Child Poverty.
Majority of Poor Families Not Married: A staggering 71% of all poor families with children in the U.S. are unmarried. By contrast, married couples comprise only around 29% of poor families with children in the U.S.
Ellen of Tasmania
1 Oct 12 at 11:15 am