Those in Labor seem to treat Gillard’s spin merchant, John McTernan, with awe and reverence. He is supposed to be the brains behind Gillard, and is responsible for the present attacks seeking to brand Abbott as a misogynist.
I think she has chosen badly – McTernan’s tactics have always failed. Rather than helping his master stay in a job, McTernan has ensured the master’s removal.
From a range of relatively junior positions, McTernan became Tony Blair’s spin merchant in late 2005. By June 2007 Gordon Brown had unseated the Prime Minister.
Then he helped take out his next master, Des Browne, Secretary of State for Scotland in 2008.
Then he saw off Jim Murphy, the next Secretary of State for Scotland in 2010.
He took up his present role in Gillard’s office just over a year ago (September 2011), and it is only a matter of time before McTernan takes her out too.
McTernan’s true genius is making people think he is helping while quietly undermining them.
So much for the politics of personal destruction.
dd
13 Oct 12 at 6:44 pm
But how much of Gillard’s strategy is being driven by McTernan, really? The negative campaign against Abbott has been going since long before he showed up, and in fact Bolt started mocking the “AbbottAbbottAbbott” scare campaign months ago. Are we letting Gillard off the hook by blaming her negative campaign on some faceless guy?
dd
13 Oct 12 at 6:46 pm
So what you’re really saying, Samuel is you think it raises the question about the role that Tony Abbott’s playing.
Gab
13 Oct 12 at 6:51 pm
McTernan’s true genius is making people think he is helping while quietly undermining them.
And I think it raises the question about the role that Tony Abbott’s playing.
jupes
13 Oct 12 at 6:52 pm
why does labor keep talking about abbott? most good governments ignore their opposition. to do otherwise raises their profile to their own.
any case for reelection must be better that I am not the other guy. a vision?
It is the right-wing parties who argue they should be re-elected until the Labor party becomes sane again.
Jim Rose
13 Oct 12 at 6:52 pm
Gab. Too quick.
jupes
13 Oct 12 at 6:53 pm
Jonno better have some distraction aces, Julia claims to have witnessed a signature in Perth she can easily be proved not to have witnessed. That’s a crime.
Alfonso
13 Oct 12 at 6:55 pm
Is his salary taxpayer-funded? If so, I’m happy to keep paying him right up till the election…
ar
13 Oct 12 at 6:56 pm
Gab
13 Oct 12 at 6:57 pm
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McTernan
Jim Rose
13 Oct 12 at 6:58 pm
PJ, his sexual orientation and his looks are both irrelevant.
dd
13 Oct 12 at 6:59 pm
The Cultural Cringe lives on in the PM’s Office. He’s from the Old Dart- he must be the bee’s knees!
Cold-Hands
13 Oct 12 at 7:03 pm
Since being here, PJ has commented solely on McTernan’s sexual orientation. One wonders, did PJ get a knockback?
Gab
13 Oct 12 at 7:03 pm
I want to know how he is working in Australia. Is he on a work visa, or has someone got him permenant residency? Either way, how does he comply with the “of good character” requirement
Wilma Karstaardt
13 Oct 12 at 7:03 pm
John McTernan at http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jun/24/julia-gillard-can-turn-things-around
Jim Rose
13 Oct 12 at 7:04 pm
I think people are forgetting what hopeless political judgment Gillard has demonstrated – virtually since she stood alongside another highly defecient Labor leader in Mark Latham to announce Medicare Gold. Of the policies that supposedly brought down Rudd – Gillard was the author of the boat people policy (admittedly with Rudd’s blessing) and Swan sold him down the creek with his hopeless policy development and implementation of the Resource Super Profit Tax.
Throw in the backflip on the carbon tax, double-crossing Wilkie on pokies, Craig Thomson affair, appointing Slipper, failing to sack Slipper and the other near weekly stuff-ups that characterise the Gillard government and it is only the political self-interest of the so-called Independents that has kept this farce on its inevitable course with the electoral iceberg.
As with the Bligh and Keneally governments, a majority of people have been waiting to throw them out from the first day of their formation.
H B Bear
13 Oct 12 at 7:11 pm
I’d say so. and hence the sour grapes about McTernan’s looks.
“I wasn’t interested anyway!”
dd
13 Oct 12 at 7:21 pm
I had a comment in a different thread, but it took all day to be moderated, so few would have read it. I’ve decided to comment in future using my real name instead of my pseudonym “Hammygar”.
Gareth Hamilton
13 Oct 12 at 7:23 pm
No it’s not. It’s Kero Boy and always will be.
Why do you think anyone gives a shit what your real or new made up name is. Just stay with the old one as it’s better known.
JC
13 Oct 12 at 7:27 pm
Good for you. It wasn’t necessary, and possibly inadvisable, but I admire you for ‘coming out’ nonetheless.
dd
13 Oct 12 at 7:29 pm
okay, looks like JC has a different opinion.
dd
13 Oct 12 at 7:31 pm
Lol.
Lets not hate each (in Birdian terms) for having different opinions DD.
JC
13 Oct 12 at 7:34 pm
I finally get it, (is the comma in the right place??) McTernan is a Liberal Party mole. Now I feel better.
delfino
13 Oct 12 at 7:34 pm
Shhhh!
He’s actually a henchman from the VRWC.
And he’s henching quite well!
Mk50 of Brisbane
13 Oct 12 at 7:37 pm
HenchPERSON Mk50.
wreckage
13 Oct 12 at 7:42 pm
This may sound stupid, but how do people know that McTernan is behind the recent Slapper’s fuck ups.
How you know this? After all she’s quite capable of fucking up all by herself.
JC
13 Oct 12 at 7:45 pm
Not completely. For example, if he was straight and married with kids…
Fleeced
13 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
I wish The Welsh Git would just fuck off Joe
Tal
13 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
Tal
That of course is a given
JC
13 Oct 12 at 7:55 pm
I agree, and furthermore the buck stops with Gillard.
dd
13 Oct 12 at 7:57 pm
I’m swearing and thinking about murdering people,I think I’ll go to confession tomorrow
Tal
13 Oct 12 at 7:59 pm
So the Hamster wants to attach years of mad blog commentary to a new identity that makes him unemployable everywhere except the SPA and the CPA? Give us a spell, Hammy. You’re not going to suddenly stop lying about stuff after a lifetime of pretending you are what you aren’t and you aren’t what you are. You won’t be able to pull this off. Just keep lying and calling yourself the Hamster. It’s be easier that way. And if you ever need to earn a living outside the Australian Underminers Union, you can invent a new fake identity for the purpose. You know it makes sense, Comrade. Say hello to the Politburo from me, Tommy Trinder (my real name). *Wink Wink*.
Tom
13 Oct 12 at 8:10 pm
But this was pre-arranged well before this guy was hired.
Boris
13 Oct 12 at 8:14 pm
He might as well take her down.apparently half the union/lab movement have…
max49
13 Oct 12 at 8:15 pm
Please don’t take that anger out on the priest now Tal.
Token
13 Oct 12 at 8:23 pm
I believe the spin meister from “The Thick of It” is based upon him.
bolt1493
13 Oct 12 at 8:31 pm
Have posts from PJ or someone else been removed? Comments about seem to be one side of a conversation.
Token
13 Oct 12 at 8:40 pm
Rand Paul attack ad on Dems over foreign aid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvnba-2sbds
Nice work, Rand.
Fleeced
13 Oct 12 at 8:42 pm
Hammyracist, our resident white supremacist leninist scumbag, burbles so!
Comrades!
I had a comment in a different thread!
But it took all day to be moderated!
So few of you filthy peasants would have read it!
I’ve decided to comment in future using my real identity, the love child of William Joseph Simmons and Marie Stopes, scourge of blacks, jews, catholics and all non-white untermench!
However, you scum may use instead my pseudonym hammyracist the white supremacist communist jew-baiter!
FTFY, rubberlips
Mk50 of Brisbane
13 Oct 12 at 8:46 pm
Oops, Rand stuff was on wrong Fred… sorry
Fleeced
13 Oct 12 at 8:47 pm
Thank Mk50. So Hammy went over the top and was more than just satire of a moronic lefty.
Token
13 Oct 12 at 8:53 pm
Yes. PJ had several rather, how shall we say this, uncomplimentary comments about McTernan that have been whisked into the vortex.
dd
13 Oct 12 at 8:59 pm
No need to waste too much time deconstructing the background of that rant from that shameless shrew. She was worse than usual because She had the painters in. That is all.
Pickles
13 Oct 12 at 9:01 pm
Did she pay for the painters with ripped off union fees
Tal
13 Oct 12 at 9:14 pm
I’m gob smacked! This site is moderated
Steve of Glasshouse
13 Oct 12 at 9:59 pm
He’s the Typhoid Mary of failed political campaigns, but the idiots who hire him despite his sterling record of disaster-accompanying-him will continue to do so for one telling reason: they’re always looking to sheet the blame home to a small-minded electorate, sexism, racism, Tony Abbott and other shadowy forces, rather than looking for factors closer to themselves (including themselves).
His legacy of disaster is as much because of the mindset of the people who hire him as anything the man himself does (or fails to do). If you think you can win by using McTernan’s tactics, the chances are you’ve already lost sight of the real reasons you’re losing.
perturbed
13 Oct 12 at 10:06 pm
McTiernan is a lowlife of the lowest order. He didn’t just matephorically clean the dunnies at Sussex St, he recycled the crap off the bowls and threw the stuff with his own bare hands at anyone in range, with collateral damage being his hirees. My dad complained in the 70s about marxists employed out here to cause problems, but McTiernan is the putrid cream of the crop. Which gutter precisely did Gillard dredge him up from? He’s worse than anything i’ve ever had on my shoe, and unworthy to be described with such reverence. He will go down as the darkest figure in Australian political history.
I wonder what sort of skeletons reside in his closet? Karma is required, and i find it impossible for him to be anything but putrid to the core.
Twodogs
13 Oct 12 at 10:16 pm
This whole thread is one big case of “WTF”?
And I state this bluntly under my
newreal identitah:Rabbi Raoul Muntovich
Remember it, people – after the next election I am in your various thingies – whether you like it or not…
Rabz
13 Oct 12 at 10:25 pm
Had no idea about his sexual orientation.
But it is pertinent in light of the Abbott attacks.
Surely you can’t get much more anti-woman than a male homosexual?
Homosexual – I guess that’s what we’re talking about, right?
ar
13 Oct 12 at 10:29 pm
The hypocrites are back-peddling furiously after another week of their disastrous stuff-ups which saw a campaign of lies against Abbott backfire on them. Again.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/nobody-wins-gender-wars-wong/story-fndo48ca-1226494955849
Gab
13 Oct 12 at 10:30 pm
Please tell me you are joking Hammygar? Please…
Lazlo
13 Oct 12 at 10:32 pm
HAHAHAHA!
Wong claimed three nights ago on national TV that Abbott has said that women are not fit for high office!
An emotional and intellectual vacuum..
Lazlo
13 Oct 12 at 10:35 pm
Yes, hurried backdown in order to blunt any attack on their hypocrisy.
PS BTW
is a powerful name. yes it is. It commands respect.
entropy
13 Oct 12 at 11:10 pm
With reference to Jim Murphy this is from John himself in an article (http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2010/10/18/the-tories-are-handing-defence-to-jim-murphy-says-john-mcternan/#more-4928)
“The first rule of spin club is that there’s no such thing as spin club. The second rule of spin club is that there’s no such thing as spin. Why? Because
the members of spin club, if such a thing existed (which it doesn’t), know that spin never stays spun. It always unravels.”
Let’s see how he handles the “spin” regarding the AWU & Gillard as it all unravels!
…see the latest (http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/).
EJ
13 Oct 12 at 11:49 pm
Surely you can’t get much more anti-woman than a male homosexual?
Nauseating, ignorant bullshit.
perturbed
14 Oct 12 at 2:25 am
I am not sure whether McTernan just doesn’t understand Australia, or has a rather insidious brief.
The ALP went backwards in the polls after the misogyny speech, something any advisor who knew Australia should have been able to predict: feminist issues are unpopular, even amongst women, in this country.
Assuming he is not that stupid, the brief must not be so much the result of the next election, but to ensure Gillard keeps hold of prime ministership until then – the speech was designed to appeal to the Greens and elements within the ALP.
2dogs
14 Oct 12 at 3:51 am
JOHN MCTERNAN: “David Cameron has a women problem”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/johnmcternan1/100109638/labours-reshuffle-gives-david-cameron-even-more-of-a-woman-problem/
Now where have I heard that before…
Also in answer to the question about whether he works for the Government or the ALP:
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/10/never-a-truer-word-spoken-so-let-labor-pay-for-him-or-sack-him.html
Jock
14 Oct 12 at 5:25 am
INTERVIEWER: “Was the Prisoner Transfer Agreement some sort of grubby deal for oil?”
JOHN MCTERNAN: “No. The Prisoner Transfer Agreement was a deal, but it was a deal to recognise the fact that Gaddafi had given up his nuclear weapons. If the price for Libya giving up nuclear weapons was that Megrahi served his sentence and died in a Libyan jail, the British Government would have been happy with that.”
The link to the youtube video is at:
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/10/mcternan-defends-the-indefensible-especially-as-a-scot.html
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/10/i-need-some-sage-and-sedate-advice-should-this-be-promoted-in-the-name-of-the-australian-prime-minis.html
Jock
14 Oct 12 at 5:27 am
“The ALP went backwards in the polls after the misogyny speech”
I have been waiting for a post “dollies out of the pram” poll.
Can yo point me at a poll taken since?
Leigh Lowe
14 Oct 12 at 5:54 am
There’s nae place for immigrunt wukkers who come to Straya and tek the jabs of wukkin Strayans.
Aye … Thets yoo McTernan
Wee Dougie Camron
14 Oct 12 at 5:58 am
There’s nae place for immigrunt wukkers who come to Straya and tek the jabs of wukkin Strayans.
Aye … Thets yoo McTernan
Wee Dougie Camron
14 Oct 12 at 5:58 am
The three words that the coalition has never uttered and yet the ALP just can’t stop saying them!
jules
14 Oct 12 at 6:50 am
No Tal, the bill goes straight to the AWU. Same as the bill for the aluminum windows and the fence. The tradies know where the money is coming from .
Pickles
14 Oct 12 at 6:50 am
Leigh, Your query prompted me to look up the fact that: Essential Research appears to publish a weekly political poll, Newspoll is fortnightly, due next week (around 23/10/12) and Nielsen/Fairfax appears to be monthly around the middle of the month.
However, what’s clear is that, because we have a government that can’t stop destroying itself — and wonders why — opinion polling has become the centre of the political universe and all of McTernan’s work is designed to manipulate the polls.
His pathological talking points of just a month ago now seem so yesterday:
I expect to see this week’s Essential poll putting Labor’s primary vote in a nosedive with people fleeing the PM’s shit rain of abuse to the Coalition, the Greens and “others”.
Tom
14 Oct 12 at 7:08 am
Leigh, Your query prompted me to look up the fact that: Essential Research appears to publish a weekly political poll, Newspoll is fortnightly, due next week (around 23/10/12) and Nielsen/Fairfax appears to be monthly around the middle of the month. (Sorry, the Cat ate my links, so I had to delete them.)
However, what’s clear is that, because we have a government that can’t stop destroying itself — and wonders why — opinion polling has become the centre of the political universe and all of McTernan’s work is designed to manipulate the polls.
His pathological talking points of just a month ago now seem so yesterday:
I expect to see this week’s Essential poll putting Labor’s primary vote in a nosedive with people fleeing the PM’s shit rain of abuse to the Coalition, the Greens and “others”.
Tom
14 Oct 12 at 7:11 am
It’s just sad – instead of seeing the Real Julia, all we’re seeing is a sock puppet with McTernan’s hand up it’s backside. Gillard’s “angry face” is just another in a long line of pre-packaged products.
boy on a bike
14 Oct 12 at 7:11 am
Woops. Links now approved.
Tom
14 Oct 12 at 7:12 am
I actually agree with him on this.
Gaffafi’s Libya had been slowly walked back in from the cold, which is why it was such a bad idea for the West to stab him in the back at the first opportunity.
dd
14 Oct 12 at 7:24 am
What’s unpopular in this country is the most powerful person in the country whining about how hard they have it.
wreckage
14 Oct 12 at 7:30 am
Yes, indeed. The most powerful politician, the one calling the shots, standing up and complaining about their hurt feelings.
dd
14 Oct 12 at 7:35 am
John McTernan “The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism”
Stop being surprised people.
From Bolta http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/andrewbolt/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/great_skills_from_mcternan_again/
Tapdog
14 Oct 12 at 7:37 am
So McTernan snowed Australian journalists into thinking her speech was wildly popular. Clever.
Mind you, most of the professional commentators in Australia seem to be easily led. I get the impression that many of them get a lot of attention from the ALP spin machine.
dd
14 Oct 12 at 7:42 am
Gaddaffi (how many spellings of that can you come up with?) may have done a bit of walking back to save his skin, but he remained a frootloop. He should have been taken to an international court himself after the shooting of a policewoman in London and the downing of the plane over Lockerbie. He never paid for those things unless you count Reagan’s air raid as sufficient – perhaps it was in part. If nothing else it illustrated that the fait accompli is useful and there should be more of them. Iranian bigwigs should be targetted as directly until their regime goes down.
With syphilitic Gadafy there was ultimately no level of trust, and the sons were not guaranteed to turn out any better than the Syrian Assad Junior, who despite appearing more mild than his dad, still maintained strong ties to the wrong people in Iran and Lebanon. Then there are the nuclear facility that Israle had to bomb, and the chemical/biological capabilities that are even now being discussed as being in play, not ditched.
blogstrop
14 Oct 12 at 7:52 am
That’s being kind to complicit partisan hacks who are distorting the democratic process with their duplicitous deceptive dripping of disinformation daily.
blogstrop
14 Oct 12 at 7:54 am
It’s true that Julia Gillard as PM on a salary of near $500,000 plus perks saying life hasn’t been fair ‘cos she’s female doesn’t quite add up.
candy
14 Oct 12 at 8:14 am
If nothing else McTernan certainly makes his incompetent predecessor,Hawker,look good.
Lew
14 Oct 12 at 8:42 am
John McTernan was also Mike Rann’s media adviser,Mike Rann is no longer the Premier of S.A.
Merilyn
14 Oct 12 at 9:20 am
At least Gina Rinehard wants to import workers with a track record of success. Julia imports a loser with a track record of failure.
I find it interesting in this sense that he is gay, would he attack a Coalition leader for being gay? I have no doubt about it. McTernan is the politics of relentless negativity and personal destruction. But he is wrong in his ramblings, I mean writings about spin. Eventually the public hate personal destruction and negativity. Especially female voters, which is why the ALP pins that tag on Abbott.
The left loves confected anger and rage, so they are naturally drawn to the vile political pugilist – McTernan. What the ALP hates about Abbott, is that he gives some back. Like all Lefty bullies they can’t take it back. Remember the mincing poodle remark about Pyne. They are not above a bit of homophobia themselves, just like the nasty undertones about Alan Jones. So the gay guy is happy to work for an organisation that deploys homphobia to score political points and silence their political opponents.
In the end Gillard will be another notch on McTernans belt of failure. A despicable Scot peddling the most divisive and dishonest politics for the grubbiest government in this country’s political history. He must be proud of himself.
John Comnenus
14 Oct 12 at 9:55 am
boy on a bike 14 Oct 12 at 7:11 am.
“Gillard’s “angry face” is just another in a long line of pre-packaged products”.
Very true, succinct. Nearly all that needs to be said.
The Margie Abbott-led fightback to the McTernan meme (fronted by all those female puppets) had to be attacked and Slipper had to be protected at all costs no matter what he did. Albanese had the script ready BEFORE they even knew about the motion to remove Slipper. Gillard read from that script. Feigned outrage and horror (until the CFMEU joke sent it a little sour).
“ What do you want us to say now John?”
M Ryutin
14 Oct 12 at 10:04 am
BS, the Stenographers were desperate reaching for a way to spin the fact Gillard made the most colossal blunder.
The story fails the sniff test with the rest of the community. Ultimately it reinforces the disconnect between the media insiders and the rest of us.
Token
14 Oct 12 at 10:10 am
I think Timmee would have been very familiar with every thing that was spewed at Abbott during her 15 minute rant.It was probably just a compilation of what he’d received on any number of occasions.I wonder if he’s been game to come out of his shed yet just in case she hasn’t finished and needs him to practice on.
Lew
14 Oct 12 at 10:38 am
That’s amusing because it’s the one thing I have my doubts on about Abbott in my support of him whether he will take out the butcher’s knife.
JC
14 Oct 12 at 10:45 am
Heaven help Timmy if he ever looks at his watch during one of gillard’s tirades.
Gab
14 Oct 12 at 10:45 am
It was a made up emotional rant. Abbott made the mistake of sitting there with a straight face. I would have laughed myself on the floor.
JC
14 Oct 12 at 10:48 am
They saw it for what it was. They saw the Lying Slapper going into emotional overdrive at Abbott because of his silly shit stirring by calling them a Government dying of shame (he could have chosen different words). But on the same day the government was desperately attempting to keep Slipper’s speakership alive, who is Exhibit A for laying out hate against women.
JC
14 Oct 12 at 10:53 am
so Abbott Abbott Abbott has to be blamed for juliar employing the scottish git.
Love the post about Timmmmee staying in the shed,every woman has been there,not only the PM.
Not many women put up with that sexist hype in a real marriage,most will let it rip on the homefront
lorraine palmer
14 Oct 12 at 11:01 am
Wow, we are in up-side-down world, for once Mad Dog Milne’s daily rant actually is for something in alignment with middle Australia:
Token
14 Oct 12 at 11:12 am
So Milne is now back-peddalling also from her position a few days ago:
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-guilty-of-sexism-milne-20121010-27cz5.html#ixzz29ER5Ygfx
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-guilty-of-sexism-milne-20121010-27cz5.html#ixzz29EQW3I9M
Gab
14 Oct 12 at 11:18 am
Oh dear. What does Milne say about Bandt also voting for Slipper?
jupes
14 Oct 12 at 11:34 am
For some realisation how concocted and shallow the whole Gillard/Albanese script about sexism was please read this article by Miranda Devine and especially check the context for the ‘abortion is the easy way out’ nonsense.
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/mirandadevine/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/gender_card_is_a_loser/
On another ‘charge’ I have been amazed about the woeful ignorance by so many commentators about the context of the (ongoing) debates about inherit qualities of men and women from which a supposed instance of actual misogyny has been extracted to level against Abbott.
Never having seen a link to the actual debate with Michael Costa, from the moment I heard Albanese give a preview of Gillard’s Hollywood script BEFORE the motion to remove Slipper was moved, I thought of two words: “Larry Summers”.
If the former Obama adviser Summers’ experience whilst President of Harvard university was anything to go by, the shrill and anti-intellectual sexism shouters would have a field day IF the debate was anything like the one for which Summers suffered so much from the politically correct. When Summers wondered if women by their very nature suffered in their aptitude for certain sciences compared with men he was shouted down as sexist and his resignation demanded, no matter that he was supported by his academic peers and superiors.
The Abbott quotes revealed so far IN NO WAY SHOW ANYTHING OTHER THAN SUCH AN INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSION. More than that, apart from the crass anti-intellectualism these responses show, the base political nature of this Hollywood preview by Gillard and her scriptwriters ignores entirely the hypocrisy of attitudes towards valid surveys and intellectual discussion where women are deemed to have certain admirable qualities which men lack or in which men are not so able to exercise (women leaders are more persuasive than their male counterparts, women leaders learn from adversity and carry on with an “I’ll show you” attitude, women leaders demonstrate an inclusive, team-building leadership style of problem solving and decision making, women leaders are more likely to ignore rules and take risks) and so on….
M Ryutin
14 Oct 12 at 11:36 am
what does Milne say now about Slipper voting for the green levy?
Gab
14 Oct 12 at 11:45 am
speaking of Milne, Dennis Jensen has just posted on FB:
“Was sitting next to Christine Milne (leader of the Greens) on a flight from Canberra to Sydney on Friday. Pilot came over PA, saying that on the left (my side of the plane) there was snow on the hills around Sydney, and was extremely unusual for this time of the year. One of the flight attendants was bending down to look out of my window to see and I said “must be because of all that global warming”. Milne didn’t look very impressed, but didn’t respond either!”
Will
14 Oct 12 at 1:40 pm
The unseasonal spring weather is entirely consistent with, indeed one of the features of, climate change.
Gareth Hamilton
14 Oct 12 at 1:49 pm
Just like every other meteorological event that occurs now or in the future.
John Mc
14 Oct 12 at 1:52 pm
It’s simply amazing what’s consistent with climate change: hot weather , cold, rainy, drought, more intense volcanic eruptions, the pain in my arse etc etc etc
JamesK
14 Oct 12 at 2:01 pm
see http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gillard-barred-for-snivelling-grub-slur/2006/05/31/1148956383658.html
the now PM in opposition called Abbott a “snivelling grub” for tit for tat reasons.
Jim Rose
14 Oct 12 at 2:16 pm
Yes, this is very serious climate change is the one that is due to the change in tilt in the access of the earth based upon an annual cycle.
Its called the year.
Token
14 Oct 12 at 2:30 pm
How do you know a greenie shithead is lying?
Their lips are moving.
Rabz
14 Oct 12 at 2:40 pm
Gareth Hamilton, if you have anything at all between your ears, perhaps you could tell me about this.
Tell my why the CO2 keeps rising, yet the temperature doesn’t.
Will
14 Oct 12 at 3:02 pm
Any chance we can resist the urge to turn this thread into another blisteringly dull climate thread?
Gab
14 Oct 12 at 3:06 pm
Dull climate thread?
There are fewer and fewer exciting climate threads now thanks to climate change.
Our children will probably never experience an exciting climate thread
JamesK
14 Oct 12 at 3:25 pm
Doesn’t mean a thing. 16 years is not even a blip in climate history. Climate changes in spurts and pauses from time to time. I’d rather believe in the scientific forecasts of true scientists rather than politically-driven denialists.
Gareth Hamilton
14 Oct 12 at 4:27 pm
Communists just love those politically-driven scientists! Have you even heard a “climate scientist” dissociate himself from the Greens?
Tom
14 Oct 12 at 5:13 pm
Apologies for interrupting another climate change thread, but I wanted to correct a common misapprehension about John McTernan. He is not a spin doctor. He is far superior to mere spin doctors, being actually a rotation physician. He is FRCRP (Fellow of the Royal College of Rotation Physicians). He is highly skilled in the repellent arts and practices of his ilk. The Canberra press gallery could be played like a fiddle by virtually anyone on the left, but in this guy’s thrall, they make Pravda look objective.
James in Melbourne
15 Oct 12 at 11:33 am
[...] A few days ago I said that Gillard’s spin merchant was going to ensure her loss at the next election (or sooner if Rudd returns), like McTernan had to his previous employers. [...]
Chris Kenny on McTernan at Catallaxy Files
16 Oct 12 at 5:03 pm
[...] I noted before on John McTernan’s genius for undermining his boss and ultimately causing his/her removal. His latest stratagem - having Julia Gillard announce an election for 14 September and to encourage the resignation of three Labor Ministers – takes the cake. Labor figures must be jumping with joy at the prospect of defeating Tony Abbott with this masterstroke. I wonder who McTernan’s next client will be? Perhaps Swannie will take him on? [...]
Is McTernan still the mastermind? at Catallaxy Files
2 Feb 13 at 9:48 am