The moderator in the second presidential debate, Candy Crowley, did everything she could to skew the result towards the president but the most despicable moment was when Romney and the President were going at each other over whether Obama had understood that the murder of the American ambassador in Benghazi was part of a premeditated terrorist attack. One hardly had to have been paying attention to the news to know that for many days (two weeks apparently) the White House had insisted that it had all been in response to a video that had been put up on Youtube. Now everyone knows this is absolutely not the case (although the video’s producer does remain in jail), but this is only because the actual facts had become impossible to hide. The dearest wish of President Obama was that everyone would forget about his massive incompetence and outright lies and deceit.
The most dramatic moment in the debate was therefore when Romney was making the point that Obama had refused to call the attack terrorism for two weeks and Obama said that he had. Into this exchange, Crowley inserted her CNN-far-left-media-Democrat-ignoramus two cents worth to say in front of millions that yes, Obama had indeed called it a terrorist attack. Now, however, in front of the paltry few thousands that watch CNN she admits she was wrong. Watch the tape:
“Picked the wrong word!” Who did she think she was and what kind of an adult name is Candy anyway? Nor was that the only way in which she defended Obama. She cut Romney off on a couple of occasions which she never did for Obama and gave the president four extra minutes which is quite significant over a mere 90.
It was disgusting but nothing new. But a day of reckoning is coming and if Romney wins as he should, that day of reckoning will be not very far off in coming.
I just finished posting this on the other thread but it’s relevant here.
Three problems for Obumma follow or increase from this debate as far as I can see.
1. Romney hammered Obumma on his economic record and presented again a much more plausible plan for jobs
2. Romney has correctly identified Obumma as a liar on Libya (- not helped by Obumma not answering almost any other of the questions asked)
3. The perception of media bias getting wider and deeper traction in voterland was re-enforced by Crowley
JamesK
17 Oct 12 at 7:19 pm
(- not helped by Obumma not directly answering almost any other of the questions asked)
JamesK
17 Oct 12 at 7:20 pm
Agreed. Romney was not afforded the opportunity to grill Obama re Benghazi.
Mike of Marion
17 Oct 12 at 7:32 pm
This debate was the end of Romney. Obama is set to defeat him by a Goldwateresque margin. Congratulations for your November 6 victory, Barack. No I’m not being premature, just saying what everyone knows is going to happen.
Gareth Hamilton
17 Oct 12 at 7:34 pm
Try a new approach Hammy, this one’s worn thin.
Cato the Elder
17 Oct 12 at 7:45 pm
d’hamster strikes again!
JamesK
17 Oct 12 at 7:45 pm
Thank you, Gareth. That zinger has gone straight to the pool room – the Hammygar Hall of Fame. PS: Want a hundred on it straight up – no odds? That’s $AUD100 at evens when I can get $3.00 from tab.com.au? Just for the pleasure of doing business with you? PPS: You’re special.
Tom
17 Oct 12 at 7:48 pm
You stained your undies I presume?
Infidel Tiger
17 Oct 12 at 7:48 pm
Is the moderator of the last debate Chris Matthews?
dover_beach
17 Oct 12 at 7:50 pm
Candy is an adult name for a hot college girl in a pink bikini. Not an ugly leftist land whale. Disgusting.
JB5
17 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
Not unless they want to watch a grown man fellate the President while a handsome Mormon stands by practicing his inauguration speech.
Infidel Tiger
17 Oct 12 at 7:53 pm
Thought so, Hammy is an Oasis fan.
And not very good either.
jumpnmcar
17 Oct 12 at 7:55 pm
IT, the strange thing is, you’re not exaggerating.
dover_beach
17 Oct 12 at 8:00 pm
So is this the real Romney? The one who supported the bailouts in Detroit and agrees with all the social issues as does Obama.
The start of the debate was a bit amusing though about oil.
kelly liddle
17 Oct 12 at 8:05 pm
A case of premature barackulation?
Nic
17 Oct 12 at 8:16 pm
Oil – the interesting take on oil is that one of the main reasons the US is involved in “foreign adventures” is due to the fact that the US has been effectively locked out from its own petroleum reserves on continental USA by the environmentalist movement. So the MIC needs oil for run its carriers and jets and where do you expect them to look for this, to them, fundamental political lubricant? The Middle East etc.
Ironic, no? The hatred for the US and its global economic philandering is mostly the result of reacting to the environmental lobby. (Imagine, if you can, a solar powered F-14 Tomcat).
Louis Hissink
17 Oct 12 at 8:20 pm
I’m pretty sure “Candy” is the diminutive form of “Candice”, similar to someone named David referring to himself as “Dave”.
Yobbo
17 Oct 12 at 8:26 pm
Tomcats are retired and shredded. Think of a solar powered F-18 instead.
Boy on a bike
17 Oct 12 at 8:26 pm
Aah, new gen solar powered ….. suspected I was behind the times.
Thx BoaB
Louis Hissink
17 Oct 12 at 8:43 pm
Mind you, if we progress to a more sustainable situation, resorting to more vintage forms of miltary hardware etc might actually be a growth industry.
Let’s see, anachronising a Mk1 Abrams would mean a herd of clydesdales, some means to mount a gun of some capability, and,,,, why didn’t the Iron Duke, or his peers work this out at the time?
But I drift.
Louis Hissink
17 Oct 12 at 8:50 pm
I am not sure if Hammy/Doug Quixote/Gareth Hamilton is a simple troll, a plant for numbers – surely not needed here – or just having fun. But I cannot ever understand why seemingly intelligent people waste their time in answering comments which are posted (and intended) to mindlessly offer the directly opposite (without nuance at all) to a common sense view, albeit arguable at times.
There’s none so blind…….
M Ryutin
17 Oct 12 at 8:51 pm
Premature adulation.
Abu Chowdah
17 Oct 12 at 8:56 pm
hammyracist is dancing monkey, he capers and gambols as a target for our amusement. Who takes communist white supremacists seriously?
Mk50 of Brisbane
17 Oct 12 at 8:59 pm
I’m obliged to point out, JBS, that is raaaaacist.
Oh dear, I just Google imaged to find Lotsa Candy – your comment is nonetheless accurate.
http://bostinno.com/2012/10/15/romney-obama-camps-fret-over-second-debate-moderator-candy-crowley/
Mick Gold Coast QLD
17 Oct 12 at 9:06 pm
The Cat’s own candy must be crying in a room somewhere. Nasty, nasty Steve K.
m0nty
17 Oct 12 at 9:16 pm
mOnty are you going to apologise now for saying Obama “owned” Romney over the act of terror call?
The fat broad with the sweet name has apologised, now it’s your turn.
Infidel Tiger
17 Oct 12 at 9:17 pm
Made my day!
Jeremiah
17 Oct 12 at 9:23 pm
Monst?
JC
17 Oct 12 at 9:25 pm
Even the F-18 is dated, the super hornet is a stop gap measure. The only consolation is that it comes in cheaper than all the other 4.5th gen offerings.
Jeremiah
17 Oct 12 at 9:28 pm
Some more education for you, Jeremiah. This time we will look at expanding our Japanese vocabulary because we’re not just all about shoes.
Today’s word is “Ame”.
Gab
17 Oct 12 at 9:32 pm
First, IT, don’t put a word in quotes that you are attributing to me when I did not say the word.
I said the following:
Romney was, in fact, lying when he said:
Obama specifically used the phrase “act of terror” in his press release two days afterwards. Romney lied about that, Crowley called him out on that lie, the crowd applauded, the Benghazi part of the debate then immediately ended with a significant win to Obama. Crowley said on CNN afterwards that the stuff about the 14 days was right “in the main”, but she did not recant on that specific gotcha. And she did not apologise in any way.
m0nty
17 Oct 12 at 9:35 pm
Steve have you been reading Hillbuzz?
I missed the debate and am just reading Kevin’s liveblog of it, and he calls her ‘Creepy Cowley’ also. Apparently she looks like Carnie Wilson.
nilk
17 Oct 12 at 9:38 pm
Fat Boy, Lets go to the transcript.
Read more: CURL: Crowley skews hard for Obama in disastrous debate – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/17/curl-crowley-skews-hard-obama-disastrous-debate/?page=2#ixzz29YWAXpJs
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Romney was right. He didn’t.
JC
17 Oct 12 at 9:42 pm
I don’t think it matters too much.
Romney won – and this has been confirmed by CNN.
C.L.
17 Oct 12 at 9:44 pm
2?
1 debate left; 2 alphas wage fight of their lives.
C.L.
17 Oct 12 at 9:46 pm
Romney and Candy Crowley I presume.
Infidel Tiger
17 Oct 12 at 9:47 pm
The next debate clashes with Monday night football, so unfortunately for Romney only Obama’s base will be watching.
Infidel Tiger
17 Oct 12 at 9:48 pm
Obama was a little more articulate than 47% Mitt on this one.
When Obama spoke in the rose garden, it was plain obvious that the storming of a fortified embassy was a terrorist attack, so why labour this point when trying to make an eloquent tribute in a time of sacrifice and loss. His underlings were inept.
Jim Rose
17 Oct 12 at 9:50 pm
Outside of the shameless marketing of Obama by the New York Times, surely newspaper editors in the swing states away from the groupthink of the elite couldn’t be so arrogant towards their own readerships, I thought. And, this Wednesday morning US time, I’m right. In the Columbus Dispatch:
And the coverage is straight-down-the-line neutral in the Miami Herald:
Tom
17 Oct 12 at 9:51 pm
And then there was the other woman who interfered to save Obambi.
perturbed
17 Oct 12 at 9:53 pm
I agree with Jim here. The motherload here was lack of security for the embassy, outsourcing of security to locals, parting in Vegas and – MOST OF ALL – lying about the influence of a YouTuve video. Romney was badly briefed to emphasise the ‘terrorism/terror’ angle.
C.L.
17 Oct 12 at 9:54 pm
Have people really forgotten the Obama narrative for two weeks was protesters stormed the embassy becuase of the youtbe video? A M A Z I N G.
Gab
17 Oct 12 at 9:54 pm
PARTYING
C.L.
17 Oct 12 at 9:55 pm
Ame-n
Jeremiah
17 Oct 12 at 10:11 pm
Obama needed a vote-changing performance. It doesn’t appear he got it:
Tom
17 Oct 12 at 10:12 pm
Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake. Which Romney surely did.
m0nty
17 Oct 12 at 10:16 pm
Question is: did the liberal media’s pro-Obama propaganda suppress public disquiet about Obama’s performance on Libya? Or has Romney created doubt?
In any case, external affairs is a minor issue for Americans, whose preoccupation living in a moribund economy is employment. Obama won big in 2008 on sentiment. Romney wins big now on jobs, IMO.
Tom
17 Oct 12 at 10:26 pm
The Libya thingo should have been handled better by Romney, that was the knockout punch and he had all week to rehearse it. The fact is that the word “terror” was indeed mentioned by Obama (even if it was in the wrong context).
Romney went all in and tried to turn it into a piece of theatre, and when you’re all in you’ve gotta be sure you’re going to win big, he got caught up on a technicality so the whole thing blew up on him.
Obama knew he could fall back on the transcript, and in a televised debate all he needed to do was plant the seed of doubt into the audiences mind.
Yes, he got shafted by Candy, BUT he should have expected that he would! Bottom line is that Romney should have foreseen something like that happening and should have prepared appropriately.
Jeremiah
17 Oct 12 at 10:29 pm
The fact is ALL conservatives should ALWAYS expect that we are going to have the odds stacked against us. No point sooking about it, you just need to rise to the occasion.
Jeremiah
17 Oct 12 at 10:31 pm
Honey-Badger Sununu slams Soledad O’Brien over Obama’s rose garden statement: You’re out of your mind!
JamesK
17 Oct 12 at 11:01 pm
I’d like to take the opportunity to state that she and I are in no way related
Philip Crowley
17 Oct 12 at 11:51 pm
Jeremiah: it’s ok, the last debate’s on foreign policy, so Romney has plenty of time to practice on the Libya speedbag. I suspect this training will pay off.
And, m0nty…seriously…that all ya got? I don’t think anyone needs to be to concerned about Romney’s performance if that’s the best criticism m0nster can cobble together.
Oh come on
18 Oct 12 at 2:07 am
Yep have to call this one an own goal. He has the perfect shot and only has to say it does not seem like your administration knows what is going on taking about, 2 weeks to find out what happened. What other things might be happening right now that you don’t know about? Paint Obama as someone not in control. Instead Romney proves that he can’t even get some basic facts straight much like the President.
kelly liddle
18 Oct 12 at 2:46 am
Megyn Kelly Focus Group Explodes Over Candy Crowley’s Debate Moderation
A focus group of ‘media professionals’ on the Crowley interruption.
JamesK
18 Oct 12 at 6:51 am
“He has the perfect shot and only has to say….”
Maybe this
“While you mentioned generic terrorism at the Rose Garden conference, If you knew it was terrorism on Day Two, then why did your administration continue to blame the video for days afterward? Why did you constantly and only refer to that ridiculous video – even at the UN – when you knew within a day it was an Al quaeda attack with NO demonstration, Why did you allow your Ambassador to the UN go on five talk shows a week later and specifically deny that it was a terrorism attack? What sort of administration do you run? Are these spokespeople allowed to read from some PR press release?”
Or this perhaps?
“Flying to a fund raiser by the time your intelligence officials knew that it was not any sort of a demonstration but an Al Quaeda terror attack shows your unfitness for Commander in Chief. If you had done your duty and interrogated your officials you would have known within a day what it was and would have been able to stop the lies being told about what you knew and when you knew it”.
M Ryutin
18 Oct 12 at 7:26 am
Crowley’s interjection may have damaged Obama
The whole article is good. RTWT as they say.
dd
18 Oct 12 at 7:39 am
link: Redstate.
dd
18 Oct 12 at 7:40 am
I was disappointed with Candy Crowley. She’s normally quite impartial and even handed. I guess that in order to get these gigs you have to be in the tank for the Democrats.
Anyone who thinks that the administration referred to the Benghazi attacks as terrorism on day 1 (or 2 or 3 or 4…) simply believes lies. Obama did not call them that, making an oblique reference to terrorist acts on an unrelated question at the press conference.
Furthermore, the administration knew immediately that it had nothing to do with an idiotic film clip but continued to perpetrate the fraud that it was for nearly two weeks before finally admitting what everyone already knew. For Obama to say he doesn’t play politics with it and he’s offended is a despicable, cowardly lie.
Jack Lacton
18 Oct 12 at 8:02 am
I agree Jack. I had thought Crowley was an old pro and was balanced even if she was a liberal.
Very good assessment by Erik Erikson linked by dd.
Erikson – no shrinking violet conservative said:
JamesK
18 Oct 12 at 8:11 am
m0nty
18 Oct 12 at 8:13 am
The Romney ad I’d like to see:
Clip 1: Obama claiming it was an act of terror from day 1;
Clip 2: Biden claiming that “we” (presumably he and Obama) didn’t know what had happened;
Clips 3 – 7: Rice claiming it was a movie demonstration on five talk shows;
Clip 8: Clinton claiming it was a movie demonstration while standing next to the coffins;
Clip 9: Obama claiming the buck stops with him.
jupes
18 Oct 12 at 8:32 am
Not even that. Candy is a name that calls to mind pink Musk Sticks and really cute until about kindergarten age. After that it’s simply bogan.
We (Victorians) have our own ALP dandy Candy –
Walter Plinge
18 Oct 12 at 9:09 am
The mainstream media does not yet seem to understand the impact it has on their side (being the Democrats) when they behave in such a partisan way.
The uncritical public has well and truly cottoned on to the fact that the media is in the tank for the Democrats and therefore view the debates as being Republicans vs The Rest (Dems + Media). This leads to the public being more sympathetic to the Republican and giving them more leeway in their performance than they otherwise would (or should, if all things were equal).
Jack Lacton
18 Oct 12 at 9:29 am
Maybe the left believe that the initial lie is worth it.
“Lingering Lies: The Persistent Influence of Misinformation,
The brain holds on to false facts, even after they have been retracted.”
Ellen of Tasmania
18 Oct 12 at 12:28 pm
Michael Ramirez debate cartoon
JamesK
18 Oct 12 at 12:39 pm
thanks CL, Democracies should never apologise for free speech. Not should they dignify terrorism and mob rule by saying that provocation is a defence for violence.
Many jurisdictions have abolished extreme provocation as a defence for murder. Those that have not still send you down for manslaughter.
In the realm of religious faith, and in that of political belief, sharp differences arise. In both fields, the tenets of one man may seem the rankest error to his neighbour. A few protestants regard the Mass is idolatry and the Pope as the antichrist.
Governments have no legitimate interest in protecting any or all religions from views distasteful to them. It is not the business of government to suppress real or imagined attacks upon a particular religious doctrine.
The government must leave to the people the evaluation of ideas. Bald or subtle, an idea is as powerful as the audience allows it to be. The best test of truth is the power of a thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market for ideas:
HT: quote from Philippine court case http://opinion.inquirer.net/37220/free-expression-and-mob-rule
Jim Rose
18 Oct 12 at 4:35 pm
So the Filipinos were “borrowing from” 1920s-era Brandeis:
“If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.”
Huh.
sdog
20 Oct 12 at 3:11 am