Australian Feminist Review

Reading the Australian Feminist Review (AFR for short) and there are four – count them – four articles on misogyny. To me it seems to reveal a certain state of mind. The dread dangers of misogyny are being displayed across the paper:

on page 2: “MacMisogyny with fries” by Jennifer Hewitt;

on page 3: “Defining moment in war of words” by Gemma Daley;

on page 67 “Rural blokes lap up Julia’s bit of biffo” by former Labor Senator John Black;

and the pièce de résistance, on page 66 “The ugliness of misogyny” by Susan Sheridan.

The killer quote from Ms Sheridan, taken from Germaine Greer, is this:

Women have very little idea how much men hate them.

No man I have ever known has expressed nor shown a hatred of women, not ever. But in discussing over the past week this business about misogyny with quite a number of women of my acquaintance, the amazing part is that what is much closer to reality is this:

Men have very little idea how much women hate them.

Sheridan equates misogyny with racism – “the parallel with racism is clear” – and calls Tony Abbott a misogynist, in her eyes a completely damning characterisation. And why is he so? Because all men are equally guilty of this same crime:

Because he inhabits a culture with a long tradition of hatred and fear of women – and he reflects that culture. He mirrors it, as Prime Minister Julia Gillard so rightly said.

Of course, the parallel with racism is complete nonsense. Men and women live together, raise children together and have daughters for whom their fathers want to ensure the finest possible outcomes that they can assist in bringing about. Not much of a parallel with Nazis and Jews, is it?

My thanks to the AFR for bringing these views to our attention.

How behind the times our PM is: Just found this from The Daily Express Online. The title is “Feminism is over . . . say women”. Here is the most interesting passage especially given Ms Sheridan’s views:

FEMINISM in the modern world is viewed as outdated and aggressive and is being shunned by women, research has found. . . .

They believe single mother turned multi-millionaire author JK Rowling is a better example of a strong independent role model than feminist icon Germaine Greer.

In fact, almost a third (28 per cent) of British women describe the radical feminism of Ms Greer as ‘too aggressive’ towards men and a quarter no longer view it as a positive label for women.

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56 Responses to Australian Feminist Review

  1. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    There are some people one encounters who are not worth the time of bending over to pick up a rock to peg at them, as one passes by to leave them well behind.

    These thoroughly miserable individuals sound like such people.

  2. tbh

    I read the AFR every day and got about one paragraph into that article before throwing it down in disgust. All the meaning has gone out of that word. Stutch has done a good job as editor, but this was grade A rubbish.

  3. Rabz

    Yet another reason why the implosion of Fauxfacts is long overdue…

  4. Token

    I posted this on the OT, but it really does seem appropriate for here…

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    For some reason Julia Gillard didn’t swat this misogynist

    You know what they say – “A Mouse in India, a lion at home”

  5. Gab

    Because he inhabits a culture with a long tradition of hatred and fear of women – and he reflects that culture.

    This is a slur on his chosen faith. Let’s call a spade a spade.

    Apart from that, the misandrist is saying that Abbott’s wife, mother, daughters, sisters, MPs and staff are all subservient to men, are the Stepford wives, are probably exhibiting battered-wife syndrome by being captive to such men and are, in general, clueless and oppressed.

    What the likes of Sheridan, gillard and the rest of the Gal-queda don’t realise in their utter stupidity, is they are attacking many ordinary females in the electorate because the former pack of harridans live in bubble and not in the real world.

  6. tbh

    Gab, as a man with a wife and daughter and a life long love of the opposite sex, I am utterly offended by Sheridan’s article. I mean, fancy saying something like:

    “Men have very little idea how much women hate them.”

    Exactly how is a statement like that helping anything or anyone? Exactly half of my team at work are women, so I think I’m going to ask every one of them in the morning whether they hate men or not. Given that all of them are in long term relationships, I would imagine not.

    How this person thinks she in any way represents the women of Australia is beyond me. As I said, it’s offensive.

  7. Gab

    gillard’s campaign of negativity against men is gaining traction only amongst the Feminazis. They finally have their Hitler.

  8. tbh

    Yep, and I predict it will have zero positive effect in the polls for the ALP. They are an absolute rabble, led by a morally bankrupt PM.

  9. Amfotas

    Sir, you have led a sheltered life. Feminism is replete with misandry and has infected most of our Institutions with just the sort of male-hatred you mention. It has taken the very natural tensions between the sexes (due to male-female differences which in another epoch were celebrated) and twisted them into grimmaces. Our laws and traditions have been changed to relflect their view. “All men are rapists”. Those that are not (odd ones presumably) are paedophiles or domestic abusers. Most men do not even know this about themselves until an accusation – often quite false – is made and they are thrown into jail.

  10. Rafe

    People need to be reminded how much Abbott has done for women, like the womens’ shelter in Manly, see the article in The Spectator last week. And other causes for women. Just to set the record straight on that score.

    Some claims are so stupid that it makes you feel a bit stupid to have to respond to them. So are we dumbed down by idiots.

  11. Notice how the more equality the feminists get, the stronger the language gets about men’s attitudes to women?

    Methinks misogyny is the defence of the misandrist. After all, these are the people that believe all men are rapists.

  12. Rafe

    A nice point Twodogs, like the way that the left has to go on about inequality, even while conditions improve, because otherwise they would have no reason for existence.

    If some are lagging, they are probably Gough’s grandchildren, the third generation welfare dependents, or the victims of substandard public education, or minimum wages plus unfair dismissal laws.

  13. C.L.

    Because he inhabits a culture with a long tradition of hatred and fear of women – and he reflects that culture.

    No, he inhabits a culture that, historically, raised women up.

    So that’s either a lie or, more likely, the observation of an ill-educated buffoon.

  14. cohenite

    Wait till the Mullahs take over.

    This what happens when you do not practice zero tolerance of fuckwits, regardless of what is between their legs.

  15. Token

    Notice how the more equality the feminists get, the stronger the language gets about men’s attitudes to women?

    Sounds to me like a lot of women with real serious issues that are being paid way too much attention.

    I’ve said before, this place is going crazy like it did in the last days of the Keating government…

  16. And what comes on Channel 10? Misogyny! Corinne Grant proves that as a political commentator, she makes a great comedienne (a misogyny gong for me right there), by saying the meaning of the word “is not important”.

    Apparently the Macquarie dictionary is “updating” the meaning. Presumably that would involve updating misandry as well, lest they no longer be opposite sides if the same coin. I bet they don’t…

  17. papachango

    Susan Sheridan is an adjunct professor, English and women’s studies, at Flinders University

    well that says it all then. Pretty standard curriculum for women’s studies classes. Meanwhile, in the real world, we all seem to get along fine.

    BTW, what happened to the alternative spelling wymmyn/wimmin to avoid spelling out the dreaded M word?

  18. Jim Rose

    Women have very little idea how much men hate them

    men must not have mothers or daughters. why men marry is a mystery.

  19. dover_beach

    No, he inhabits a culture that, historically, raised women up.

    Indeed. A culture which attracted women of all classes in droves since antiquity. A culture which has been made fun of because of its devotion to Mary. A culture which has cultivated women across the centuries of the stature of Catherine of Siena to Elizabeth Anscombe. And yet, we have to suffer what CL rightly described as “the observation of an ill-educated buffoon.”

  20. Leigh Lowe

    Word of the day ….. Mysoginy
    Remember about 15 years ago when the word that got more airplay than Elvis was “xenophobic” before it’s untimely death after the infamous “please essplain” from Pauline Hansen during that interview with that pompous tart Jana Wendt.
    It seems the criteria for the Left putting a word on high rotation is that it must have four syllables and is probably never uttered in an RSL or Footy Club.
    But here’s the rub ……. “mysoginy”, through overuse, is quickly reaching a level of impotence of any tired primary schoolyard chant.
    In fact, I start to hear men self-identifying as mysoginists because it simply means “man who calls lying bitch to account”

  21. greg

    Is it possible that the P M thinks Tony Abbott is Jesus Christ? After the attempted crucifixion last week it appears she believes that he should be punished for the sins of all men even if he had not committed them all.

  22. “men must not have mothers or daughters. why men marry is a mystery.”

    Go watch a fundamentalist christian in the lead up to his wedding. Wedding receptions can’t finish fast enough!

  23. “men must not have mothers or daughters. why men marry is a mystery.”

    Go watch a fundamentalist christian in the lead up to his wedding. Wedding receptions can’t finish fast enough!

  24. Gab

    Of course, the parallel with racism is complete nonsense.

    Well I don’t know about that, Steve. These women like gillard and Sheridan are viewing men through their prism of gender, same as viewing another human through the prism of race. The decision is already made that men are misogynists and thus anything they say or do (look at a watch ffs!) with be interpreted as behaviour matching the label conferred upon the mere male.

    Reminds me, years ago one of the wymmns lightweight magazines used to have a section entitled “Mere Male”. A printed version of ‘show-and-tell’, if you will, wherein females would write little tales about the supposedly idiotic things their males said/did. Rather sexist really.

  25. C.L.

    The power of several medieval abbesses probably still remains unparalleled in the modern West. And in case you missed it: Pope Benedict has just created a new female Doctor of the Church.

    Slightly more prestige there than Elizabeth Farrelly’s PhD in urban studies.

  26. Gab

    Susan Sheridan is an adjunct professor, English and women’s studies,

    Why is there no “Mens Studies” at university? Would it even be allowed? Would it get funding? ha ha.

  27. “Of course, the parallel with racism is complete nonsense.”

    Gee, I dunno. They’re both forms of bigotry, but why stop there? “Rangas” are borderline victims of bigotry, but of course “misogyny” works better for Gillard.

    Racism might be the biggest and most obvious example of bigotry, but it should never lessen the immorality of other forms of bigotry.

  28. nic

    I cant understand what all the fuss about Abbott is. By the same ‘logic’ Gillard has a problem with male superiors, she’s never been able to marry one, the one she’s with is a hairdresser, she’s not popular with the male electorate and has participated in disturbing the marriages of a number of men.

  29. Gab

    Wait till the Mullahs take over.

    Yes, gillard the Defender of Girls and Women who would eradicate misogyny from all the land…never hear a peep out of her about how Muslim women are treated.

  30. Hey, I just realized that my link’s most recent post makes me misogynist #1! I left it a few days so the whole misogynist thing had passed, but I guess I was wrong. Just a joke of course… http://daveshomemadebeer.blogspot.com.au/

  31. Gab

    Did gillard even send a letter of protest to Pakistan over the poor 14yo girl who was shot becuase she spoke up for the right of girls to receive an education?

  32. Gab

    Gillard has a problem with male superiors

    Not really, she deposes of them rather quickly, just ask Rudd.
    ———————-
    You know, the absurdity of a Prime Minister of Australia crying victim over gender is just intolerable.

  33. M Ryutin

    Gab 18 Oct 12 at 9:33 pm
    “They finally have their Hitler”

    I think Hitler actually beleved in what he was saying.

  34. mareeS

    As a small aside to the attack of the misandrists, according to Shane Dowling at Kangaroo Court, Emily’s list was set up as an organisation by one Julia Gillard in 1996 (the critical year she was under Joan Kirner), and it remains registered in her name until 2014.

  35. papachango

    Why is there no “Mens Studies” at university? Would it even be allowed? Would it get funding? ha ha.

    I thought it was actually called ‘gender studies’, even though it’s dominated by a radical feminist agenda. Did they change the name because some bloke enrolled, and called discrimination when they wouldn’t let him in?

  36. M Ryutin

    Leigh Lowe 18 Oct 12 at 10:02 pm

    “the infamous “please essplain” from Pauline Hansen during that interview with that pompous tart Jana Wendt”.

    Unfair, It was a dumb blond woman who lasted five hours on 60 Minutes, not Wendt. Wendt was part of the team in those days, but apart from a most wonderful ‘gotcha’ emnbarrassment when she teased Rupert Murdoch about losing his battle to get rugby League TV rights about one week before he sprung his ‘Superleague’ which tore the game apart, I seem to remember her as professional.

    And dont forget her journalistic ethics when, rather than deliver a hatchet job on Andrew Bolt, she withdrew from a writing commission (later taken up by that abominable hack Anne Summers)

  37. SteveC

    Australian High Commissioner: ‘Malala an Inspiration to All of Us’
    http://www.pakistan.embassy.gov.au/islm/PR121011Malala.html

  38. Gab

    So no letter of protest, eh stevec, just a few nice words, bit of a soundbite trading off a child’s misery.

    You know with all your gillard cheerleading I’m pretty certain you will be anointed an honorary female any day now.

  39. SteveC

    Who do you suggest Gillard write aletter of protest to, Gab?

  40. SteveC

    Did you read the statement from the High Commission, Gab?

  41. Steve of Ferny Hills

    Hey MR! Leave Anne Summers alone. She’s hotter than Nicola Roxon IMO.

  42. Gab

    If it was good enough for Karzai to send letter of protest directly to his counterpart in Pakistsn, then surely gillard, the Global Defender of Women and Girls could walk her talk too….oh yeah but she trips over.

  43. SteveC

    You know the Taliban aren’t the government in Pakistan, right Gab?

  44. Gab

    You know the Taliban aren’t the government in Pakistan, right Gab?

    Yes, Karzai and I both know that. Stop being obtuse.

  45. SteveC

    Perhaps I should write a letter to Sinclair protesting about the stupid things you write on this blog, Gab.

  46. Megan

    Perhaps I should write a letter to Sinclair protesting about the stupid things you write on this blog, Gab.

    You would need to queue up behind the rest of us dobbing you in for your total nuisance value. And for general obnoxiousness like the ridiculous statement (above).

  47. H B Bear

    Anne Summers seems to be trying to out loony Germaine Greer.

    Good luck with that.

  48. Amfotas

    My good friend Joyanna Adams has a fine riposte to a feninist of similar academic standing as the Sheridan woman. She lets rip on the misandry surrounding Mitt Romney’s remarks about seeking women candidates for jobs.

    http://joyannaadams.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/nobody-insults-ms-kathleen-reardon/

  49. sdog

    THE “toxic” campaign of sexist and misogynist attacks against Julia Gillard constitutes “incitement to violence” and perpetrators would be targeted for criminal investigation if they occurred in the US, according to leading feminist Anne Summers.

    Bullshit.

    If saying mean things against a politician is illegal in the States, what gulag are these “criminals” in?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=kill+bush
    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

  50. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    It has taken the very natural tensions between the sexes (due to male-female differences which in another epoch were celebrated) and twisted them into grimmaces. Our laws and traditions have been changed to relflect their view

    Laws and traditions will always slowly change to reflect circumstances, but the point about the ‘very natural tensions’ is still extremely valid. The changes must take account of this context, not try to dismiss it.

    I love being a woman. I love the power of it, the thrill of it, the joy of it, all of which exists precisely because there are also men in the world. That is age-old. I also love to think and exist with genuine free rights within the world shaped in the past so much by men. My hope is in some small way, by my existence and that of most women, to contribute to shaping a a new and liveable world for both sexes in such a strange place as our contempoary technological achievement (or is that over-reach?) has landed us as a species.

    There is much to think and dream on, we as women and men as men, ‘naturally tense’ together. Stuff and nonsense to a grimacing old ‘feminism’. Twenty years will see them off and out and a more realistic co-operation emerge.

  51. manalive

    Tony Abbott now finds himself in the position of not being able to respond in kind to Gillard’s bitter and abusive verbal assaults as in her “gutless” comment — it’s a position familiar to a lot of men, particularly in the ‘blue collar’ demographic.
    The privacy of the polling booth will provide a better indicator of the PM’s standing amongst what would normally be her male constituency, irrespective of what telephone polls show (assuming she is still there).

  52. candy

    “The privacy of the polling booth will provide a better indicator ”

    Think you have a really good point there.

    People are a bit afraid to speak their minds these days in public for fear of being labelled one thing or another.
    It may be a case of the polling booth to see how it unfolds.

  53. wwik

    I suspect from the extent of the response to the Prime Minister’s speech that she and her supporters may have mis-calculated. I hope so. I hope that otherwise disinterested men everywhere take offense at this attack. Whilst it was nominally directed at Mr. Abbott, it does reveal the negative attitude of the Prime Minister and her followers to men and masculinity in general.

    As a man, I have become accustomed over the last 35 or so years to being insulted by women making offensive claims about the male gender. I have been offended by their behavior more times than I care to remember. Maybe I am alone in this but I suspect that many men feel the same. And do we complain? Generally no. We just get on with life.

    It is therefore amusing to hear the bleating from these very same people about misogyny. Why do they feel so hard done by. Probably because they are utopians, meaning that anything less than perfection is unacceptable. No offense is tolerable. Conservatives tend to be a bit more tolerant of society’s imperfections.

    In spite of decades of society bending over backwards to accomodate their every demand, they are still not happy. In the case of the hard nuts like Gillard, Roxon, Plibersek etc. I believe that they are actually female supremacicts who are offended that there are still males who do not try hard enough to appease them. That, I think, was the true message of the Gillard speech. She was offended that there are still men who do not submit.

    Contrary to the Prime Minister’s claim, I believe that our society does not tolerate misogyny but is quite comfortable with misandry. We have a long way to go.

  54. Myrrdin Seren

    Because he inhabits a culture with a long tradition of hatred and fear of women – and he reflects that culture.

    The lefty/academic sister-in-law drills this down into an even finer grain.

    Apart from TA’s politics, TA went to the same school as her miserable, philandering Ex. Ergo, by association TA must be a women-hater.

    Credit to TA and Margie for a robust, long-lasting marriage ( compared to her first experience ) ? – invisible.

    Female family members everywhere, including a sister of the cheerful persuasion that he is close to ? – memory wipe.

    Powerful female partners and associates in politics ? – class and gender traitors ( probably racists too, for good measure ).

    Any shred of recognition that it takes two to tango, and she married a guy in the first place who a lot of members of the clan had misgivings about, and those misgivings only got bigger the longer she stayed with him ? – nil.

    There is a saying that is part of feminist dogma:

    “The personal is political”

    From what I see, so much of this victim culture is driven by unhappy personal experiences, the resolution for which is sought in collectivist outcomes under which “No bad thing done by an individual will be allowed to happen again – so there !”

    and if you want to see how well statist approaches are going in making sure ‘no bad thing ever happens to anyone’ – have a look at the PC shithole that is Britain today.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Amfotas, a very good letter there by Joyanna Adams.

    Says what most of us who’ve had any real world experience think.

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