The third debate is to focus on foreign policy which to my amazement is supposed to be one of Obama’s strengths. I suppose that if someone is as bad on domestic policy as the president is, that relatively speaking he might well be better on foreign policy and therefore in some very lame sense it could be described as one of his strengths. But since he’s hopeless with both, I cannot see how saying he is better at one than the other is much more than a bad joke.
The intervention by the second debate moderator, Ms Candy Crowley, an American journalist and therefore an Obama supporter, over what Obama had said about the disturbance in Benghazi – did he maintain for two weeks that it was a reaction to a Youtube trailer or did he acknowledge from the start that it was an act of terrorism? – transformed what could have been the decisive moment in the election into an indeterminate outcome. Obama shamelessly lied about what he had said but in doing so clearly knew he was to be rescued by Crawley so went ahead anyway. Romney now knows the score and will no doubt be prepared but there are lots of surprises still to come. Bob Schieffer of CBS will be the moderator who will no doubt display his own agenda during the night. Since the media will not trash Obama for his untruths and misstatements while Romney must play a perfect game just to stay on the field, it will be a very challenging hour and a half. It is a debate not to be missed. The details:
Tuesday October 23: Presidential debate #3: Foreign policy
Watch the debate live on SBS ONE or streamed live on the SBS World News Australia website from 12pm ADST.
US Defense Secretary stating that the defence cuts would be devastating:
This is Leon Panetta, Obama’s Defense Secretary, discussing the “devastating” effect that the proposed cuts to spending will have on the military. Like each of the debates, it is the discussion afterwards that is as important as the hour and a half itself. Romney looks like a President of the United States. Obama looks like the President of the Students Council. Which of the two would you want to be negotiating on your behalf with Putin or Ahmadinejad across the table? Why is this election still close?
Here come the
laughsexperts.Was out in traffic. Who won?
Mitt’s got some photogenic folk on his side.
It’s the economy, stupid. Socialists can’t run successful economies. The end.
Harry Melkonian – love the facial telescreens, Squire!
Yes, the Lightbringer seems dull today
And now for the post game shows on SBS and the ALPBC.
God give me strength.
2 min for SBS commentator to call it for Obama. That was the slowest out of all 4 debates.
FNC bemoaning Romney’s failure to engage on Libya and lack of differentiation from Obama. Sounds like they thought Romney didn’t “win”.
Talk about lack of product differentiation!
Romney chose to go for independents and not get into a spat over Libya. There is plenty of time to explore that through surrogates in the media.
Jobs, job, jobs, jobs…
Mitt by a mile. Obama was weak on economics and any sort of record to run on. Not too good under pressure either.
Bambi in trouble, Hawker only gives it to him…”marginally”…read lost.
The horror…
Only to inane leftists
Schafer gave each candidate the same time, Early on Obama had 4 min lead.
the cat has the best dialogue during debates, thanks to all of you for your company, be back later
i thought that Romney did well but don’t believe he’ll be called the winner by the MSM but he wasn’t the loser in my view
Fox analysts: Romney’s strategy was “the big hug”, not doing much to disagree with Obama; Obama very aggressive, hard to win when you’re not in that role. One calls it for Obama, other calls it a draw.
The yellow peril is coming, again.
Romney by the length of the straight.
Daylight second.
Obama complaining about the deficit (No, the one he inherited)
Very strong closing statement from Romney.
Obumma from within could her the nails being hammered into his coffin
Token – I agree, the GOP base is locked in, and i think he will take the Indeps and swing voters, merely because he was cooler under pressure and made the main point of getting people working benefits everyone.
Especially the Government.
Carville: “Obama came to attack, Romney came to agree.”
LOL
Meanwhile, Donald Trump has promised a revelation at noon about Obama.
Oh great.
ABC “experts” concede the election is now “tight”
Gergen on Romney: “He passed the commander-in-chief test.”
Harry Melkonian felt that Romney had shown his competence in Foreign Affairs, so achieved his goal even if he didn’t win the debate.
On reflection, Odumbo couldn’t win. You can’t base four years of foreign policy on killing a terrorist that any prez would have authorised. Mitt on points. Goodbye, Barry.
Ahahahahaha.
SBS flak Brian Thomson calls it “a draw” which probably translates into a win for Mittens.
Krauthammer next on Fox.
HAHAHAHA
The old dinosaurs Schieffer and Lehrer were the best moderators
SBS calls it a ‘draw’ cites ‘a baseball game’ as the reason why nobody saw the debate and won’t change their opinion or vote.
Sweet cheeses on a bicycle these cretins can reproduce.
And that was by half-time. Then Bambi actually invites Romney to talk about the economy -twice. He must have been punch drunk.
Bambi got personal twice by my count, and interrupted and talked over Romney on several occasions. Romney didn’t go there. Not only a win but done with style.
Who’s the fuckwit leftist kiwi on SBS?
Where do they find these t0ssers
I liked both as they did not make the debate about them.
Schieffer’s foreign policy question were great. POOK-istan. Drones. All worthy topics.
David Burge @iowahawkblog
I’d say 51 years of avoiding people who disagree with you was a pretty good run.
Romney/Ryan Debate Score: 4-0
Gun running and Libya cover ups left for surrogates; Mitt kept his sights trained firmly on the Economy.
I concur.
CBS Instapoll shows Obama won it 53-23.
Obama won on almost all individual questions, also
LOL
China 1 – US 0
Trade War 1 – Free Trade 0
SBS talking head – the dwarf that looks like Barry Humphries with owl glasses believes the debates will have no effect on the eletion of the POTUS.
aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha – fvkwit.
What an amazing amount of domestic policy discussion for a debate supposedly centred on foreign policy.
CBS instant poll: OBAMA: 53% ROMNEY: 23% TIE: 43%
Jarrah, 53 + 23 + 43 = 119
Just sayin’
I love it when zombie ideologues pretend they know how international commerce works.
119% of democratic voters polled in 57 states agree…
democratic voters
Aaaaarrrrrggghhh!!!
That’s “dumbocrat voters”…
Bipartisan US foreign policy is now anti-free trade/anti-China and that’s a worry.
Scapula, as i mentioned earlier – can you post in english not esperanto.
Foreign Policy Debate #TRUTHBOMBS
“Jarrah, 53 + 23 + 43 = 119″
My fat fingers strike again. Tie should be 24%, natch.
The disparity between the sentiment on this thread and that of American voters is interesting. Could it be that you’re not as objective as you’d like to think?
Fuck off wing b0ne
Carpe – enough of your horses and bayonets talk, please.
LOL
Now a CBS poll of 500 odd ? by telephone means we’re ‘not objective’ according to Jarraqh.
Fuck off you troll.
Lol
The Americans I spent time with this evening thought the Kenyan came accross too aggressive.
The Kenyan has got a got a killer stare
Jomo Kenyatta’s running for President?
David Burge @iowahawkblog
Hey China, how ’bout shipping us some cheap teachers? These domestic models suck.
Heh.
“Now a CBS poll of 500 odd ? by telephone means we’re ‘not objective’ according to Jarraqh.”
Not as objective as you’d like to think. Please read carefully, you fraud.
Krauthammer called it for Romney. I agree. How many people changed their vote from Romney to Obama as a result of this debate? Obama needs around a 5% turnaround to get back the lead and claim the “others”. Most of the debate was about the domestic economy, which Romney won, and Romney did himself no harm on foreign policy.
I’m an American voter. IMO Romney executed a good strategy by letting Obama sound shrill and attacking while Romney kept playing to his own strengths.
When you are in the lead you don’t play your opponent’s game.
Obama chased and kept trying petty snipes that just fell flat and sounded schoolboy like.
So I wouldn’t call it a knockout, but the educated and observant voter knew what was going on and that Obama didn’t even come close to catching up tonight. Obama needed a win very badly and this certainly wasn’t it.
FFS crapula, just post in english not cryptic crossword.
Mitts drifted out from 2.92 to 3.00 at Betfair.
Instant poll – Obama destroyed Romney tonight….
http://www.businessinsider.com/debate-poll-obama-wins-won-romney-cbs-instant-2012-10
It’s one of those stares he’s hoping the person fails if he wishes hard enough. The trouble for him is that those he wants to convince aren’t thinking like that.
That includes the dead, remember?
Krauthammer would have called it for Romney even if Romney had broken down blubbering about how hard it all was. He’s the most partisan partisan in the media.
Oh oh:
Politico’s John Harris, Obumma propagandist: Obama Diminished Himself As A Commander-In-Chief
He can stare tho’
Obama smashes Mitt in instant poll
http://www.businessinsider.com/debate-poll-obama-wins-won-romney-cbs-instant-2012-10
An absolutely deadly line. A swift and clean dagger strike to the heart.
Shut Obama right up.
CNN/ORC poll: Obama 48%, Romney 40%
BTW already some talk that the bayonets thing is going to be a meme because many American soldiers are still issued bayonets to fit on their rifles. Cue Mk50 to regale us of his tales of derring-do on the front lines of modern conflict, slitting up his enemies with his Bowie knife like Darth Vader.
VIDEO: Obama Appears Snarky, Angry, Unpresidential In His Last Debate
Well, what did you expect the propaganda arm of the GOP to say?
Probably the opposite of the leftist propaganda outlets you keep posting Jarrah. Ya think?
It was a tough choice, Monty. Would I listen to Krauthammer? Or the frothing zombie trolls in another country?
I guess he’s your very own zombie troll, Tom. Stick to your boy.
Ellen, how could you forget the entire cast from Disney studios (i’m Mickey Mouse and i vote), Warner Brothers, (even Roadrunner needs to vote)and of course even the cast of K-On or Bakamonogatari could vote. (despite them being cartoon carachters).
His head shakes too. Does he have Parkinson’s?
Late in the debate the camera showed his shaking head then segued to the moderator’s shaking finger.
Carpe, so the above is an example of clarity in writing?
Fatboy go eat a few dozen Krispy kreams and fuck out of here, you useless deadshit.
Last debate krauthammer called it for the Kenyan. Some partisanship.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/17/charles-krauthammer-obama-wins-on-points/
Already some talk that the bayonets thing is going to be a meme because many American soldiers are still issued bayonets to fit on their rifles. Cue Mk50 to regale us of his tales of derring-do on the front lines of modern conflict, slicing up his enemies with his Bowie knife like Darth Vader.
Countries mentioned during the debate in white, areas talked about but not mentioned by name in red.
I reckon Obumma knows he’s behind in the polls.
Obuma was the One who behaved like the challenger spoiling for a fight.
Mittens kicked to touch and played for the final whistle except to take easy scores.
Poor Obumma war gamed Benghazi all w’end and Mittens left it alone.
Romney looked presidential and proved he had a deep understanding of foreign policy.
Mission accomplished.
Fox focus group called the debate for Odumbo, but economic management for Romney. How many people changed their vote from Romney to Odumbo as a result of tonight? None.
Romney won courtesy of ‘the Apology Tour’, BOB’s arrogant prick act on bayonets/horses/cannonballs – and by flogging the dismal Democrat economy.
But as a look forward to the next four years of US foreign policy – well, fuck me dead. No mention of Europe, the failure of the Eurozone and what that might mean for the US and the world more generally.
Obama compares naval ships to horses and bayonets; Twitter explodes in snark-storm
There’s that laser-like focus: Obama ‘death stare’ is the new Biden smirk
Romney has bindersfullofhorsesandbayonets.
Thanks all for the run through on the debate; I missed it, so glad to catch up. Sounds like Romney to me.
Ahahahaha…
Romney continues to convince disillusioned Obumma voters over to the adult side.
Time now clearly favours Romney
@DrewFromTV
We wouldn’t have less horses and bayonets if blacksmiths and bayonet makers had a public union behind them. #debate
NumbersMuncher @NumbersMuncher
PPP post-debate INDYs only key stat: “More/less likely to vote after debate” – Obama 32 more/48 less. Romney 47 more/35 less.
That people in Australia don’t understand it, that statement about sequestration was a big gaffe by Obama.
Not only did Obama sign the law, he denied something he signed that effects the military in a live debate.
Clanger.
David Burge @iowahawkblog
Administration releases video detailing president’s strategic vision for future Navy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw …
RomneyResponse @RomneyResponse
What They’re Saying: Our Next Commander-In-Chief http://mi.tt/RYS7Il
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I think it’s unequivocal, Romney won. And he didn’t just win tactically, but strategically. Strategically, all he needed to do is basically draw. He needed to continue the momentum he’s had since the first debate, and this will continue it. Tactically, he simply had to get up there and show that he’s a competent man, somebody who you could trust as commander in chief, a who knows every area of the globe and he gave interesting extra details, like the Haqqani network, which gave the impression he knows what he’s talking about. But there is a third level here, and that is what actually happened in the debate.
We can argue about the small points and the debating points. Romney went large, Obama went very, very small, shockingly small. Romney made a strategic decision not go after the president on Libya, or Syria, or other areas where Obama could accuse him of being a Bush-like war monger. Now I would have gone after Obama on Libya like a baseball bat, but that’s why Romney has won elections and I’ve never had to even contested them. He decided to stay away from the and I think that might have actually worked for him.
What he did concentrate on is the big picture. People don’t care what our policy on Syria is going to be. They care about how America is perceived in the world and how America carries itself in the world. And the high point is when he devastatingly leveled the charge of Obama going around the world on an apology tour. Obama’s answer was ask any reporter and they will tell you it wasn’t so. That’s about as weak an answer you can get. And Romney’s response to quote Obama saying that, ‘we dictate to other nations,’ and Romney said, ‘we do not dictate to other nations, we liberate them.’ And Obama was utterly speechless.
So that is the large picture, America is strong and respecting. What Obama did is he kept interrupting, interjecting and his responses were almost all very small, petty attacks. The lowest was when he’s talking about sanctions that are old. ‘When I was working on sanctions you were investing in a company in China.’ I mean that is the kind of attack you expect from a guy who is running for city council for the first time, that’s not what you expect from the president. A personal attack about an investment when talking about Iran?
I thought Romney had the day. He looked presidential. The president did not. And that’s the impression I think that is going to be left.
“No mention of Europe, the failure of the Eurozone and what that might mean for the US and the world more generally.”
That’s a good point. Foreign policy seems to mean military policy almost exclusively, for both R and O.
“Romney won courtesy of ‘the Apology Tour’”
I’m surprised Obama didn’t hit back harder on that lie. I guess he figured the people who believe it aren’t going to be convinced otherwise, so he moved on.
RomneyResponse @RomneyResponse
VIDEO: CNN Fact Check: Obama Did Seek To Keep Troops In Iraq http://youtu.be/GRxfRVW4RAY
Romney’s best line:
Also like the line about showing backbone to Putin.
Obama did well with the populist pap that goes down well with low information voters. How can anyone argue with the winner of the great Tyre tradewar with China?
“And Romney’s response to quote Obama saying that, ‘we dictate to other nations,’ and Romney said, ‘we do not dictate to other nations, we liberate them.’ And Obama was utterly speechless.”
Yes, it was a great line. Bound to be very effective with the voting public, as long as they don’t twig that Romney’s whole critique of Obama was that he wasn’t dictating enough.
Probably ‘cos it’s true as Romney detailed in painful detail.
America has not
edictated to other nations…Jarrah you’re mouth-foamingly irrational and deluded.
Do yourself a favour and fuck off.
“Probably ‘cos it’s true as Romney detailed in painful detail.”
No, Romney went into detail about Obama admitting US errors (oh no, what a terrible thing to do). He couldn’t go into detail about apologies, because there were none.
Our flag’s unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun;
Romney wins huge:
Ace explains:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334144.php
LOL
Jarrah probably held his hands over his eyes and shrieked “lalalallalalalala” during Romney’s detailed take-down of Obumma’s apology tour.
Fuck off you ignorant troll
Obama really is a muslim-loving Prez. Didn’t een bother visiting Israel. Bibi notices these things.
Let’s just for argument’s sake say it was a slight – or even solid – Obama win (it wasn’t, but like I said, for argument’s sake). This won’t cut it. He needed to give viewers an epiphany, like Romney did in the first debate.
This didn’t happen; not even close. No one’s going to change their vote or move out of the undecided category because of this debate. No one.
Even the moderator thought he was in the presence of Obama Bin Laden.
VIDEO: CNN’s John King: Trend Line Is Moving Governor Romney’s Way http://youtu.be/IXGN90yApIQ
“Jarrah you’re mouth-foamingly irrational and deluded.”
Weren’t you watching the debate?
Etc.
In the first debate, viewers realised that Romney wasn’t the horrible, cold, corporate suit the President’s attack ads painted him as. And they also saw Odumbo the Blunderer in Chief.
In this debate, Obama had to make Romney appear like a crazed lunatic or a clueless buffoon who shouldn’t be entrusted with the nuclear codes. He didn’t do this; not even close. So even if you think Obama won the debate, it didn’t move the needle a millimetre in his favour.
It’s actually pretty rare that Presidential debates do, come to think of it, so no one should be surprised.
NBC News’ Chuck Todd: “POTUS Is Consistently Trying To Draw Romney Into A More Contentious Debate. It’s What Challengers Do Who Think They Are Behind.” (Twitter.com, 10/22/12)
Others have already told you: This is an English-language blog.
What does “Tingles” Matthews think?
Jarrah you’re mouth-foamingly irrational and deluded.
Yes, Tom, time for you to bone up on English!
what does Matthews think?
Chris Matthews: ‘Racial hatred’ drives support for Romney on right
“during Romney’s detailed take-down of Obumma’s apology tour.”
LOL. Your old fogey brain is already forgetting what actually happened in the debate. Here is your ‘detail’:
That’s it. That’s all there was.
Obama sealed the deal on Sesame Street.
The New York Times’ John Harwood: “Mitt Romney Tried To Be Presidential. I Think He Was.” (CNBC, 10/22/12)
Chris Matthews yells at teenaged Romney supporter, gets Benghazi facts totally wrong. What a buffoon!
MSNBC host Chris Matthews, surveying his Florida audience ahead of the final presidential debate, encountered a combative Mitt Romney supporter on Monday night. Their encounter became tense when the supporter suggested that members of Barack Obama’s administration were disingenuous when they claimed the attack in Benghazi in September happened spontaneously during a protest over an insulting YouTube video. “Read a newspaper,” Matthews said. “Everybody knows it’s all about the video. It’s all about the video.”
“Read a newspaper,” Matthews said. “Everybody knows it’s all about the video. It’s all about the video.”
As Kath Day-Knight would say: Surreal.
Except for
Notice the leftists never comment on the litany of Matthews “factual inaccuracies” yet in this thread we’ve had quite a number of (weird) attacks on Fox news.
Weird huh?
Almost like there’s double standards at play or something.
Polling Shows Global Opinion Of Obama’s International Policies “Has Declined Dramatically Since 2009.” “Global opinion of President Barack Obama has declined dramatically since 2009, according to a new survey of the president and his policies in 21 countries. Approval of Obama’s international policies has dropped from 78 percent to 63 percent in Europe; from 34 percent to 15 percent in Muslim Countries; from 40 percent to 22 percent in Russia; and from 57 percent to 27 percent in China, reports the Pew Global Attitudes Project.” (Tim Mak, “World Poll: Chill On Obama Policies,” Politico, 6/13/12)
From twitter: #HorsesAndBayonets I remember having to use horses when I was in Afghanistan. They kept on giving up just like our president. #Debates” -@mherrera006_
sdog @s_dog
“Oops” x 2 RT @redsteeze: Marine to Fox News “We still use bayonets” #HooRah to President Ships that Go Under Water
This is why the first debate killed Obama. They’d spent all their time campaigning as to how unrelatable Romney was, and I think people had bought into it. Then they saw in the first debate that Romney was not only relatable, but seemed much more so than Obama. This pretty much undermined their whole campaign to date.
Al Gore complains that debate didn’t address Global Warming.
Fact Checking @BarackObama: 10 Lies And Counting http://bit.ly/RebOuV
VIDEO: Romney Hammers Obama’s Apology Tour: ‘America Didn’t Dictate To Nations, We Toppled Dictators’
Gov. Mitt Romney’s strong and detailed response explaining why he characterizes President Obama’s early foreign trips as an “Apology Tour.”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Thanks, Cold Hands. Made my day.
Fleeced: precisely. Now, to shift the needle, Obama needed some kind of similar seismic shift. None in sight, however. So all the usual suspects can claim that Obama won the debate, as they were always going to, but it won’t make a lick of difference to the final outcome. Whereas the first debate totally recalibrated the race.
What’s an Al gore?
VIDEO: Obama’s Apologies on his Apology Tour
What a complete clown Jarrah repetitively demonstrates himself to be.
And a t0sser.
Don’t worry, JamesK. Jarrah is distraught. He can see what’s coming: President Romney and Prime Minister Abbott.
I bet they’ll get along swimingly, too.
that should be a double M
Speaking to an empty chair again, hey Tom?
You mean the first turning point of the campaign engineered by an old Hollywood hasbeen?
What’s demoralising is that 47% odd of voters will still vote for Obumma.
It’s frightening.
The work only really begins after Romney and Abbott win.
We have to change the Left’s control of cultural institutions.
It’s not a game any more.
The ABC and PBS need to have their funding turned off for a start.
This is why Ryan & Romney have not got agressive toward Obama and Biden in the debates. The people want a change and the debates showed the alternative is good.
There is an old saying that the Prez should never enter a debate as the challenger stature equal to the office of Prez once they step on the stage.
No word from Romney about liberating Ozbekistan from the feminazi?
Haters have got to hate, its who they are
That’s the scary thing, James – they aren’t going to go quietly. I can’t say that the March Through The Institutions met as much resistance as it should have, but now they’re there it’s going to take generations to dislodge them. Defunding them is easy to say, not so easy to do. They’ll take to the streets, public opinion will fall behind them, reforms will be watered down. It’s a familiar pattern. I suspect the only way we’ll get those leeches out of there is at the point when they bankrupt their host, the government.
No and the Hobbits also await being freed from Mordor – asspipe.
President Romney – get used to hearing it for the next 8 years.
I’ve got some GREAT quotes saved up for November 6th from Les Majesty, 1080 and a few others.
Obama is still ahead in the Electoral College and that’s what matters.
Moreover, he’s still ahead despite the fact his base has deserted him.
Romney can say if I can’t stop spending here then what hope have we?
He’d be right.
The owe more than $16 trillion
There won’t be a problem in the House of Reps, the problems will be the Senate.
If necessary a recalcitrant Senate should be used to start a movement to see the 17th Amendment repealed.
Senators are not answerable to state interest but Party interest and in winning popular votes every 6 years.
The 17th Amendment and SCOTUS leftists has been a disaster for the US
Scapula – what’s your take on Nidal Hasan? Are you for or against?
You recite utter tripe ad nauseum, Wingbone.
He’s ahead (really? ) based on polls predicated on a similar turnout to 2008- that’s D+8. Do you think that the base that’s “deserted him” will vote for him in such numbers after “hope and change” has proved hollow?
Be happy. At sub-60% voter turnout, that’s only 28% of the voting population who would object strongly if he was abducted by aliens.
The Muslim, dog eating, reach around lovers have swapped camps? That’s a coup for Romney.
crapula – as i, and others, have pointed out this is an english language blog. If you want to be cryptic and/or incoherant the esperanto section is available via google.
The Love Media gets it hilariously wrong with the following bone-headed analysis:
http://www.news.com.au/world/romney-asks-voters-to-accept-his-shifts-on-foreign-policy/story-fndir2ev-1226501638546
The article praised to the rooftops the following exquisitely condescending and petty response from the POTUS:
and whined that
Yeah, because American voters care more about what Romney was talking about. Foreign policy – not so much.
There really is very little quality analysis from the non-US English language media. Some decent stuff from the British broadsheets and the Oz, but the rest is almost exclusively hyperventilating pro-Obama propaganda that sounds like it came straight from the Ministry of Truth.
The Australian’s US coverage is awful. Murdoch has always hired foaming-at-the-mouth haters to his Washington bureau for some reason. Might be because it plays well to an uninformed domestic audience here.
Carpe, you lean on friends like a drunk leans on a lamp post.
Its incoherent, by the way, not incoherant – Spelling, old chap!
Why is it that the small minded, me-me-me class are surprised that the taxpayers of the US care most about their own patch?
Oh yes, too obvious.
According to Essential Media polling of Australians:
But then also according to Essential Media 44% of Australians think that individual rights here have more protection here than they do in America.
Australian’s don’t know much about America except what Hollywood and the ABC tell them.
Should read:
The concept of a black president is just so romentic, and after all the Republicans must be crazy coz the Love Media says so.
Crapula, what about Nidal Hasan? Are you for him or what?
The Australian: “Feisty Obama versus Subdued Romney”.
Krauthammer: “Overly Aggressive Obama versus Presidential Strategic Romney”
What gives with the Oz?
Scapula estas tuta perdanto. Kaj mensogulo.
Romney estas ankoraŭ en fronto por Balotejo voĉdonoj.
Outside of a few opinion columnists, The Oz is still a far left wankstain rag staffed by the usual people who you would report to child services if they lived near you.
The sooner News Ltd and Fairfax go broke the better we will all be.
Wel, i’m one up on the first count in that i actually have friends.
Oh sweet cheeses on a bicycle the spelling police are back – do you have any self awareness of how risible you are.
Quick – correct my spelling – welease wodger.
Second rate irrelevant fool is irrelevant.
IT longs for the day when news media content in Australia comprises 12 hours a day re-runs of The Bolt Report interrupted only by Beauty Tips with Gina, and her successful follow up, Eating with Coal.
Oh sh1t crapula i spelt (well) wrong – please correct me and turn me from the path of literary darkness.
Save me crapula, save me. Unleash your spelling prowess Harry Potter style.
Rex still doesn’t answer the question though for all his bloviating. Dumb troll Rex.
Steve, once the Fisk Docrine is up and running and we’ve executed all the leftists, the only news we’ll have to print we’ll be sports results and racing form.
We’re on the precipice of a golden age, but please sell all media stocks.
Stupid Rex (febro?) can’t even spell a three letter name correctly. Poor troll, he’s vewy vewy upset about something.
Stupid Rex (febr0?) can’t even spell a three letter name correctly. Poor troll, he’s vewy vewy upset about something.
“Glab” suits you, actually, Gab.
Dogshit suits you down to the ground, you fucking dickless shemale, Dogshit.
The easily mentally disturbed Tom is back. Was it you who used to be in ATC?
Rex, if you keep trolling this site with the intention of getting banned, you will be accommodated sooner rather than later.
Have you ever had a job, you parasite?
“Would either of you declare that an attack on Israel is an attack on the U.S. which is a pledge we’ve made to other allies.”
It’s questions like these that demonstrate why the foreign office was once the exclusive province of bluebloods.
Tom – don’t be too hard on sfb, do you think it is easy cooking, cleaning, scrubbing toilets & breastfeeding puppies.
I applaud you sfb. *clap clap clap* huzzah – well done that ‘man’.
Do you often notice people ending conversations with you with a sotto voce “prick”, Tom?
And then along came rex reinforcing his inadequacy – trust me rex sitting down to pee is not a good look for guys.
Ah, SFB is speaking from his own experience.
Is that the sound of “Glabbing” I hear?
Bex, you are a typical leftist who behaves like a female grievance litigant and you think you can elbow your way into a centre-right blog in which you have zero interest except to pick fights and demand that everyone argue on your terms. Millions of dollars of our money have been spent setting up leftist echo chambers specifically for airheads like you but you’d rather harrass a website for people with jobs in the real economy. You are common scum. You are the enemy of the middle class and you are about to have your government entitlements removed. Fuck off and annoy your own sub-breed of tax-eating parasites.
Dear Rex – please don’t transfer your inadequacies to me. It’s not my fault you are less than you could be.
Accept your failings it will make you less bitter.
Don’t thank me – i’m a people person, i’m here to help the less fortunate.
Tom – don’t engage dear inadequate rex, it only serves to validate his sorry, sad existance.
Do you often notice people ending conversations with you with a loud “fuckwit”, Stevieliar QC?
This is probably a lie since leftists consider private health insurance a form of a handout. Ergo Rex has never been sick in his life (or at least since around 1985) or lives on Norfolk Island where Medicare doesn’t exist.
was there a $900 plasma bonus
didn’t apply to me
I spend money in far better ways than Wayne & co. so I take every cent I can. Then I blow it on horses, beer and
womentaxi fares home.I’m doing my best, CJ. But I can’t stand tax eaters in the government sector coming here to taunt us about how much of our money we give them.
If they are stupid enough to hand it out then you are a fool not to take it. Unlike Rex and Stevieliar QC I pay plenty of tax and am happy to receive some back from the morons. You’re just another piss poor excuse for a human Rex. My dog is smarter than you.
Moderators – this is all yours by default and I will abstain.
It’s not their money Rex. It’s our money.
You are like the dope on Donahue who asked Doug Casey when he was a guest, why we must pay taxes since the Government pays for things. Go and get a vasectomy ASAP Rex. You are the progenitor and primary ancestor of a future idiotocracy.
The debate seems to’ve been a dead heat by the initial opinions. Everyone spruiks for their guy. Fox says Romney won’ Huff Post says it was Obama.
Very undignified interruption competition toward to end. But mostly a vacuous exercise in keeping-on-message.
Now you can all get back to frothing at the mouth in unison. The new commentors at the Cat remind me of Larvatus Prodeo insiders for some reason. Can’t put my finger on it.
You’re a splitter, a Trotskyite and a traitor to our glorious leader.
Fuck off, Rex. I have never accepted a cent of government money. Boy, have we got some work to do to get rid of this parasite class.
Really? Never gone to see a doctor and got a medicare rebate after you paid them? Or gone to school which is at the very least partially government funded? Or had a child and received the baby bonus or family tax benefit?
This is too much trollery. I pay medicare levy and go to the doctor seldom. You guys are just so much static interfering with rational debate, and unfortunately devaluing this blog by being unrelieved rubbish on the screen day after day.
In order;
- No
- Went to private/international school
- My beautiful wife and i never needed government largess to raise our children in any country.
I’ve taken medicare rebates, and the $900 bribe.
Why not, it’s my money, and the grubs have taken heaps of it over the years and spent it on things I don’t want them to spend it on.
I’d be much better off if I’d kept my medicare levy and invested it in an interest bearing deposit, and paid for my own medical.
Disgusting Chris: “Aren’t you guys addicted to the juice yet just like all the other sad saps we’ve reduced to government-voting dependency?”
LOL
Is that where you got into the habit of calling people from the Middle East towel heads?
Here’s a hint: if you think we are undeserving, then please take our welfare away.
We don’t want it.
Here’s a hint: you’re not forced to claim a medicare rebate, or the baby bonus or family tax benefits. Even if you receive do end up receiving it you could just give it away to a worth charity.
All private schools in Australia get substantial government funding.
Here’s a hint addicts are not forced to lower their self respect in order to fund their habit.
But they do.
The addiction destroys their drive and their humanity in exactly the same way leftism does.
You piece of ignorant filth
So what Chris is expounding is nothing short of: you taxpayers that fund medicare, baby bonus, family tax benefits etc how dare you qualify to get benefits from your own tax dollars! Just hand over the money!11
But Medicare is universal insurance isn’t it?
Or do you want to be honest and say that it is poorly run welfare?
Family tax benefits are just churn. Rightly, they should go but so should income tax where they apply, thus singles would no longer be unjustly discriminated against.
If I’m against excessive welfare, I should pay my taxes and never claim any benefits?
Soon you will be arguing that libertarians ought to work until the day they die and any tax concessions superannuation gets is “welfare”. You refuse to give people the option to opt out.
Opting out is a two way street. You just want the Government to get more money and spend more where it hasn’t eliminated poverty by previously spending more and more – most of which never gets to the indigent.
You are useless.
Jesus wept.
It is funded by TAXPAYERS. People who can afford private schools pay progressively more tax.
The school funding formula only came about because of the Golburn school strike and a cynical Menzies. The strike would have never of happened if the NSW ALP Government at the time were not overzealous in enforcing building codes the Micks could not afford and thought were unnecessary.
Dumbarse.
We’ve had that discussion before.
Public school students are subsidised around $19k per year. Catholic $13k and Private $11k.
So if we assume the true cost of eduction is $19k per year, the parents of students in public schools are free-riding off the parents of children in Catholic schools by $6k per year and Private schools by $8k per year.
It’s probably a bit off topic to talk about the debate
, but I thought Romney’s introduction of Northern Mali, which he said has been taken over by Al Quaeda was a good counter to Obama’s “we got bin Laden” mantra.
It looks like A Q is taking over another country to continue its war against the West.
Romney did a good job talking about Mali. He also did a great job talking about Pokistan and in detailing the effect of leaving Afghanistan.
He showed a level of detail which is far superior to what Obama showed in 2008.
Good summary:
“Military spending is what killed the Soviet Union.”
I think a complete lack of freedom, everything centrally planned by a corrupt government might have had more to do with it…
“The disparity between the sentiment on this thread and that of American voters is interesting. Could it be that you’re not as objective as you’d like to think?”
Or could it be Jarrah that you have simply looked at a CBS poll and hilariously assumed that you know the opinion of American voters now?
“the rest of you are not objective” – really? You’re going with that after all the BS spin you repeat around here?