The deadening of free speech in Australia continues

There are two discussions of the threat to free speech here in Australia by two old friends of this country. Both look at the treatment of Alan Jones and the way in which he had been sanctioned by the Australian Communications and Media Authority for comments he made about climate change. Both find it bizarre that ACMA has now become a fact checker on climate science. Weird world!

The first is from James Delingpole. He begins by going through the story of Andrew Bolt and then the Finkelstein Report and then adds that as dead as freedom of speech was becoming in Australia, “Freedom of speech is even deader in Australia” than it had been before.

Now to this list of shame we can add a third item of gob-smacking imbecility: the consignment of Australia’s most popular broadcaster, Alan Jones, to a political re-education class for having got a factual detail wrong on one of his radio shows.

The Australian Communications and Media Authority yesterday released a damning report on Jones’ show, finding he breached broadcast rules by falsely claiming Australians contributed just ’1 per cent of .001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the air’.

‘The percentage of man-made carbon dioxide Australia produces is 1 per cent of .001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the air,’ Jones told his listeners on March 15 last year. ‘Nature produces nearly all the carbon dioxide in the air.’

2GB told the media regulator Jones had done his own research for the claims, but neither he nor the station could provide any evidence.

University of Melbourne climate change scientist David Karoly said Australians were in fact responsible for .45 per cent of total carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. ‘Obviously, we would much rather prefer that the comments of people like Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt were, in fact, correct, so it is pleasing to get this ruling from ACMA,’ Dr Karoly said.

The second commentary is from Mark Steyn:

Down Under, something called the ‘Australian Communications and Media Authority’ (that’s to say, the usual bunch of statist hacks) has just ordered Alan Jones, the country’s Number One morning man, to undergo ‘factual accuracy training’ (that’s to say, re-education camp) for saying the following:

’The percentage of man-made carbon dioxide Australia produces is 1 per cent of .001 per cent of carbon dioxide in the air,’ Jones told his listeners on March 15 last year. ‘Nature produces nearly all the carbon dioxide in the air.’

Apparently, according to a global warm-monger of dubious provenance himself, the correct figure is 0.45 per cent. So the percentage of non-Australian carbon dioxide in the air is 99.55 per cent rather than 99.99999 per cent. For this outrageous crime, Alan Jones must report for ‘factual accuracy training’.

They’re laughing at us, and so they should. But it’s not really a laughing matter. Steyn concludes:

The death of free speech doesn’t seem immediately relevant to people worried about jobs and mortgages, but it is: When it’s a crime to be skeptical of ‘climate change’ alarmism, it’s harder to object to the diversion of tax dollars from you and yours to Solyndra and other ‘green’ boondoggles. Killing freedom of expression renders honest discussion of everything from the economy to foreign policy all but impossible – which suits both the left and Islam just fine.

If Australia keeps this nonsense up, I may have to come back for another nationwide tour. If they let me in.

Why when I see such stories of organisations such as ACMA do I think of the Salem Witch Trials, an analogy that for many of these smug, self-satisfied witch hunting ignoramuses would seem completely far fetched? But they and their supporters are the enemies of not just free speech but of freedom itself, not us but them.

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95 Responses to The deadening of free speech in Australia continues

  1. Scooter

    Steyn may have difficulty getting into Oz as he may not possess all the fine anti misogynist qualities of Mike Tyson.

  2. Kel

    Who are the people who made this decision and who do they report to?
    They should be named and shamed.
    Loudly and often.

  3. I note David Karoly, University of Melbourne, climate change scientist, denied his/Gergis paper was withdrawn, even though it has definately been withdrawn, due to ERRORS.
    Is this the same David Karoly who accused Alan Jones of errors that will require him to undergo factual accuracy training?. If so why shouldn’t Karoly, also an IPCC author, require similar re-training for his much more significant error.
    I am neither a scientist nor mathematician, but I query Karoly’s reported assertion that “Australians were in fact responsible for 0.45% of total carbon dioxide in the atmosphere”.
    using simple arithmetric.
    CO2 in atmosphere – 3,000 Gt wikipedia
    CO2 Oz 2010, – 0.45 Gt DCC
    % Oz CO2, 2010 – 0.015% my estimate
    % Oz CO2 – 0.45% Karoly
    Help anybody, maybe Karoly means emissions for 30 years.

  4. Rabz

    Help anybody, maybe karoly means emissions for 30 years.

    Or maybe he’s just bullshitting, again.

  5. Ellen of Tasmania

    Was AJ out in his reckoning by about the same amount as our Dear Leader in calling TA a misogynist? She desperately needs re-educating.

    This is all too weird to seem real. How do you fight all these little arrows of attack at our freedom and common sense?

  6. C.L.

    Abbott should promise to legislate to force members of the Australian Communications and Media Authority to be educated about other twentieth century fascists and free speech. Failure to attend workshops on the subject should result in fines and/or imprisonment.

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    In the Melbourne Sun-Herald on weekend a columnist called Susie O’Brien argues strongly for a ‘factual basis’ to expressed opinion. Make a case based on facts, she says, and then you are entitled to your opinion. Fine, I say. But facts are slippery things, Ms. O’Brien, especially when some facts are better than other facts, because she also says – “But I’d argue that there are some topics where there is only one valid standpoint”. She nominates climate change as one of these, and puts ‘global warming deniers’ (note the slur in that noun) into a basket of dismissed opinions held by truthers and other lunatics, who should be legally stopped from holding those opinions.

    Get your facts right, Ms. O’Brien. The science on any form of climatic change is definitely not settled. You are just another form of truther yourself, one who is trying, from your position of influence, to twist facts and argue for repressive laws that suit your own prejudices.

    This desire to smother opinion with other opinion is terrifying. Smother a dissenting opinion with argument, not laws. You argue for argument backed by facts, and then slip in the whammy – except for … and then we get a bundled basket into which any ‘undesired’ opinion can be slipped. Ms. O’Brien’s paving on that road to hell is dangerous indeed.

  8. Alfonso

    What happens if / when Jones refuses the reeducation camp / process ?

  9. C.L.

    “But I’d argue that there are some topics where there is only one valid standpoint”.

    Spoken like a true Nazi.

  10. JamesK

    If the re-education camp was equally applied to the perennial misrepresenters at ‘their’ ABC, the raison d’etre wouldn’t be so shamelessly obvious leftist totalitarian.

  11. Jarrah

    “When it’s a crime to be skeptical of ‘climate change’ alarmism”

    Steady on, Steyn. There was no ‘crime’, just a breach of a code of practice endorsed by the industry itself. And it wasn’t scepticism that caused the breach, but a factual error. A tiny one I couldn’t give a toss about, but an error nonetheless. If Jones wants to be considered a journalist (ha!), then he has to play by the same rules as other journalists, namely telling the truth.

    “Alan Jones must report for ‘factual accuracy training’.”

    This was the solution proposed by 2GB itself.

  12. Keith

    As Jones says, he repeatedly quoted the correct figure on many occasions. He spoke the wrong figure just once. In radio presenter terms that would be the equivalent of a typo for a print journalist.
    Will ACMA now preside over every typo and mispelling in the print media ? Thought not.

  13. JamesK

    This was the solution proposed by 2GB itself.

    What a total fuckwit Jarrah repetitively demonstrates himself to be.

    Even if true old Sovet show trials come to mind:

    Krestinsky: Yesterday, under the influence of a momentary keen feeling of false shame, evoked by the atmosphere of the dock and the painful impression created by the public reading of the indictment, which was aggravated by my poor health, I could not bring myself to tell the truth, I could not bring myself to say that I was guilty. And instead of saying, “Yes, I am guilty,” I almost mechanically answered, “No, I am not guilty.”

    Vyshinsky: Mechanically?

    Krestinsky: In the face of world public opinion, I had not the strength to admit the truth that I had been conducting a Trotskyite struggle all along. I request the Court to register my statement that I fully and completely admit that I am guilty of all the gravest charges brought against me personally, and that I admit my complete responsibility for the treason and treachery I have committed.

  14. samuel j

    Jones was right in the percentage of Australian anthropogenic emissions to total CO2. Karoly is comparing Australian anthropogenic emissions to world anthropogenic emissions.

  15. Gab

    he repeatedly quoted the correct figure on many occasions. He spoke the wrong figure just once.

    Witch hunt. Pity the ABC “journalists” are not subject to the same scrutiny.

  16. Rabz

    Pity the ALPBC “journalists” are not subject to the same scrutiny.

    “journalists” like this one, Gab?

  17. Jarrah

    This was the solution proposed by 2GB itself.

    What a total fuckwit Jarrah repetitively demonstrates himself to be.”

    I know you’re a cantankerous coot, but would you care to explain this particular explosion of bile?

    “Pity the ABC “journalists” are not subject to the same scrutiny.”

    They are. That’s the point.

  18. Biota

    Advance Australia unfair.

  19. lotocoti

    If Jones wants to be considered a journalist (ha!), then he has to play by the same rules as other journalists, namely telling the truth.

    Any chance you can show where he’s considered himself a journalist rather than a broadcaster/commentator?

  20. JamesK

    They are. That’s the point

    Jarrah pressing on with his fuckwittery regardless.

  21. cohenite

    There is the bulk atmospheric CO2 which is apparently increasing by about 1.5ppm PA or about 4Gt; then there is the annual flux which is the movements into and out of the atmosphere which are described here.

    Currently the atmospheric bulk is about 3000Gt; the annual flux is 218.2Gt [from Figure 7.3, AR4].

    The amount of human sourced CO2, ACO2, in that annual flux is 8Gt, or about 3.67% of the FLUX.

    How much of that flux actually stays in the air and adds to the atmospheric bulk; the answer is given by the US Department of Energy [DOE]; see Table 3 on page 22 of the PDF.

    From this we can see that 98.5% of ALL annual emissions of CO2/ACO2 are reabsorbed and about 1.5% of the flux or about 4Gt is added to the atmospheric bulk.

    In 2009 Australia was 16th of the world’s nations CO2 emitters, emitting 374 million tonnes or about 1.28% of ACO2.

    So, there are all the facts; who is closer to the truth; Jones or Karoly?

  22. Jarrah

    “Any chance you can show where he’s considered himself a journalist rather than a broadcaster/commentator?”

    I was going off CL’s description. If he doesn’t consider himself a journalist, fair enough.

    “Jarrah pressing on with his fuckwittery regardless.”

    More bilious trolling. Unable to explain yourself, you’re doubling down on being wrong. Please, keep it up.

  23. cohenite

    Jarrah, really, anyone who says that the left media, faifax and our abc are subject to the same level of scrutiny and vitriol, government sourced or otherwise is a fuckwit; if that is what you are advocating then you are a fuckwit.

    Consider this; we had Finkelstein based on the UK hacking by Murdoch with no suggestion that Murdoch Australia has hacked anyone; yet fairfax has hacked and is never mentioned in dispatches by this censorious government.

    Why? Because fairfax takes a consistent pro-government approach.

    Murdoch is balanced and Jones is stridently anti-government.

    And who cops all the flak? It stinks.

  24. Cato the Elder

    Jarrah, you’re wrong (again)

    point one: the ALPBC is subject to the ABC Code of Practice; not to the Commercial Radio Codes of Practice

    point two: the rules are enforced unequally

    Jones gets sent for re-education

    the ALPBC gets to “add an appropriate clarification to its online transcript of the particular episode”

    point three, you idiot, is that the media should be free, not that both sides should be equally repressed

    grow a brain

  25. Cato the Elder

    Damn. Too many links “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

    Here it is without the links

    Jarrah, you’re wrong (again)

    point one: the ALPBC is subject to the ABC Code of Practice; not to the Commercial Radio Codes of Practice

    point two: the rules are enforced unequally

    Jones gets sent for re-education

    the ALPBC gets to “add an appropriate clarification to its online transcript of the particular episode”

    point three, you idiot, is that the media should be free, not that both sides should be equally repressed

    grow a brain

    search acma.gov.au and Google the Codes of Practice

  26. JamesK

    You are appealing to studied unintelligent ignorance, cohenite.

    It’s impossible to parody Jarrah’s fuckwittery.

    It’s an example of Critical Theory in action.

    Make an assertion that is obviously wrong and then demand proof of the negative from those that point out the obvious.

    Proving the self-evident often burns up time and energy.

    Make plenty of self-evidently false assertions and demand the negative be proved is the method of the Left.

    Jarrah’s so dense and deluded he actually thinks he’s being intelligent.

    It’s self-destructive mindlessly wasteful and soul-destroying leftism.

    Modern evil in action.

    Approx 10-15% of GDP is wasted on appeasing fruitless leftist inanities.

  27. JamesK

    @Cato

    Jarrah is a fuckwit leftist.

    Sure.. point out his stupidity.

    Don’t bother wasting your time engaging him in debate.

  28. Cato the Elder

    Approx 10-15% of GDP is wasted on appeasing fruitless leftist inanities.

    you have a link, of course?

    :D

  29. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    “Pity the ABC “journalists” are not subject to the same scrutiny.”

    They are. That’s the point.

    When they finally do become subject to scrutiny and are held accountable, and you start shrieking about it, then your words above can be used to come back to bite you.

    Jarrah, I had thought you smarter than to be taken in by the ALPBC, where genuine scrutiny and accountability are foreign words.

  30. Cato the Elder

    OK, James, just having a bit of fun when I should really be working

  31. JamesK

    I don’t specifically Cato.

    Sinc is probably the man.

    But here’s a link to the costs of regulation in the US:

    The ‘hidden tax’: Report estimates regulation costs economy $1.75 trillion

    Wayne Crews, vice president for policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, combed through the 81,405 pages of the Federal Registry — which contains the nation’s regulations on businesses, and state and local governments — and cites a report showing that regulation cost the economy a whopping $1.75 trillion in 2008.

  32. twostix

    They are. That’s the point.

    No. They’re not otherwise Jon Faine would be attending re-education with Alan Jones.

    Stop lying.

  33. wreckage

    A law that allows the government to drag journalists over the coals for factual errors is a bad law. The simple fact is you will find some sort of error somewhere in most articles, and thus be able to suppress most journalists most of the time. Or better yet, tie up those you don’t like.

  34. m0nty
    “But I’d argue that there are some topics where there is only one valid standpoint”.

    Spoken like a true Nazi.

    Yeah, and 2GB is two-thirds of KGB, and it’s actually a front for Stalinism.

    Come on CL, don’t be completely ridiculous.

  35. The silencing is working rapidly to overcome Gillard Labor’s inadequate handling of almost any policy one can name. Gillard’s use of her “sexist and misogynist” accusations is to prevent anyone from criticising the sweet woman who runs the Country (into the ground).

  36. m0nty

    Well gee, lucky Jones still has a daily radio show and newspaper column, and lucky Bolt still has a regular column and blog and TV show to complain about all this lack of free speech.

  37. wreckage

    “Pity the ABC “journalists” are not subject to the same scrutiny.”

    They are. That’s the point.

    And you call yourself a libertarian.

    Well gee, lucky Jones still has a daily radio show and newspaper column, and lucky Bolt still has a regular column and blog and TV show to complain about all this lack of free speech.

    Oh, well then. I guess it’s okay. My only objection was based on the commercial success of windbags, not on free speech at all. You have found me out.

  38. m0nty

    Link please, monty.

    For what?

  39. .

    You can’t back up your assertions. Okay.

  40. Cato the Elder

    Well gee, lucky Jones still has a daily radio show and newspaper column, and lucky Bolt still has a regular column and blog and TV show to complain about all this lack of free speech.

    What a dork you are m0ron

    The point is that, while they may have these shows, their speech is not free

  41. cohenite

    Right, you lazy buggars, noone’s going to do the calculations so senile self will have to do it.

    1.5% of all CO2, both natural and ACO2 is retained annually to add to the atmospheric bulk.

    Of that 1.5% addition, annually, the ACO2 component is 3.67%; so ALL of nations’ contributions is 3.67/100 x 1.5/100 = 0.000552.

    Australia’s annual emissions are 1.28% of the global ACO2; so 0.000552 x 1.28/100 = fuckall and far less than what Karoly said and probably less than what Jones said.

    Reeducation my arse.

  42. .

    So how much will that cool the globe and allow the world to heal by?

  43. m0nty

    You can’t back up your assertions. Okay.

    My assertions that Jones and Bolt have lots of media gigs? What are you talking about, Dot?

    If you’re talking about the 2GB thing, that was a joke, Joyce. Calm down.

  44. Jarrah

    “anyone who says that the left media, faifax and our abc are subject to the same level of scrutiny and vitriol, government sourced or otherwise is a fuckwit”

    No-one said anything about vitriol. Gab mentioned scrutiny, and since the ABC has its code of practice policed by ACMA same as every other broadcaster, it’s self-evident that the same standards of scrutiny apply. If anything, due to the ABC’s stricter code and its taxpayer-funded status, you could argue it comes under greater scrutiny.

    “point one: the ALPBC is subject to the ABC Code of Practice; not to the Commercial Radio Codes of Practice”

    See above.

    “point three, you idiot, is that the media should be free, not that both sides should be equally repressed”

    That’s a topic worthy of discussion, but is tangential to my correction of people’s errors that was the original purpose of my comment.

  45. JC

    Monst, fatboy

    Their ability to speak is chilled. Of course you support that Krispy Kream boy.

  46. m0nty

    The point is that, while they may have these shows, their speech is not free

    No, there is no such this as completely unfettered free speech. There are laws against saying certain things. This is part of a normal, lawful society. Have a chill pill, Cato.

    IPA delenda est! :p

  47. Gab

    completely unfettered free speech.

    Who is talking about such things?

  48. C.L.

    Banning free speech “normal, lawful,” says extremist brown-shirt Monty.

  49. .

    monty

    You are conflating. Please provide a link where the USSC for example has compared hate speech to shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre.

    You have no regard for free speech because you don’t understand what it is.

  50. m0nty

    You have been even more ridiculous than normal lately, CL. Are you suffering from some personal illness? Had a bad run at the TAB? Feeling lonely and depressed?

  51. Jarrah

    “When they finally do become subject to scrutiny”

    Lizzie, do you realise that the ABC is under constant scrutiny? Try googling “ABC bias”.

    “Jarrah, I had thought you smarter than to be taken in by the ALPBC, where genuine scrutiny and accountability are foreign words.”

    Taken in by what? Their published code of practice? The fact they’re the only broadcaster that has to defend themselves in front of Senate estimates committees?

  52. m0nty

    Oh I know what it is CL, you’re devastated at the exposure of the complete moral failure of the Catholic Church by the Victorian Police. At least one in 20 Catholic priests in Victoria is a child molester, could be one in 12. It must be tough for you to have to face up to reality like that. Poor Lad.

  53. Alfonso

    “no such this as completely unfettered free speech.’

    Yawn, and the exceptions are long and well established by common law….defamation, threat, copyright, plagiarism etc…..unlike the proscription of speech for pretend reasons, like “causing offence”.

    It’s not going to happen because, despite the modern comrade wet dream, there is not enough gaol accommodation. Enjoy 18C until Abbott PM fixes it.

  54. .

    Oh I know what it is CL, you’re devastated at the exposure of the complete moral failure of the Catholic Church by the Victorian Police. At least one in 20 Catholic priests in Victoria is a child molester, could be one in 12. It must be tough for you to have to face up to reality like that. Poor Lad.

    Link please.

  55. Gab

    The topic is free speech but for some inane reason monty thinks it’s about catholic priests. Fucking idiot.

  56. Cato the Elder

    Back under your bridge m0nty

  57. Cato the Elder

    Jarrah, what’s your response to point 2?

    point two: the rules are enforced unequally

    Jones gets sent for re-education

    the ALPBC gets to “add an appropriate clarification to its online transcript of the particular episode”

  58. Sinclair Davidson

    you’re devastated at the exposure of the complete moral failure of the Catholic Church by the Victorian Police. At least one in 20 Catholic priests in Victoria is a child molester, could be one in 12.

    That is just crap – if the Victoria Police know they’re child molesters why hasn’t anyone been arrested? Too busy enforcing the speed limit?

  59. Jarrah

    “Jarrah, what’s your response to point 2?”

    That you’re completely wrong. The rules were not enforced unequally, because the breaches were not the same. Jones got his facts wrong and didn’t have an adequate system for preventing that. The ABC (specifically Media Watch) didn’t make an effort to allow someone to make a response to an allegation.

  60. Where do I sign up for a re-education camp? I’ll tear them a new arsehole, figuratively of course.

    The truth hurts those easily offended leftist totalitarians, and I’m only too happy to provide it. Argumentative is my middle name:-))

  61. .

    I humbly suggest that you ban him if he doesn’t produce any evidence or a self crippling apology, Sinclair.

    Let it be a lesson that property rights drive the right to free expression.

  62. Jarrah

    Take it to the open thread, m0nty. You’re getting in the way of my swinging clue bat.

  63. cohenite

    Jones got his facts wrong and didn’t have an adequate system for preventing that.

    No, he didn’t; why would you say that?

  64. Sinclair Davidson

    . – which “him”?

  65. C.L.

    LOL. Poor old Monty the extremist brown-shirt.

    No, I’m still proud and happy that the Catholic Church is the biggest and most wonderful charitable organisation on earth.

    That’s despite the opinion of Commissioner Ashton – accused by a dying man of corruption.

    We now know that the worst child rape episode in Australian history occurred at Duntroon – virtually a protestant private club for a hundred years.

  66. Jarrah

    “No, he didn’t; why would you say that?”

    That was ACMA’s finding.

  67. C.L.

    Jarrah and Monty seem to be in agreement.

    Re-education camps for those who express inconvenient opinions.

    Not even Joh Bjelke-Petersen did anything like this.

    Hey, when is the ABC’s Robyn “100 Metres” Williams going to opinion boot camp?

  68. cohenite

    That was ACMA’s finding.

    Go on; what did they base their decision on?

  69. Jarrah

    “Jarrah and Monty seem to be in agreement.”

    Don’t start trolling.

    “Go on; what did they base their decision on?”

    Read for yourself.

    http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_600069

    2GB conducted a review of its compliance processes following ACMA investigations which found breaches of the Commercial Radio Codes of Practice. The breaches occurred during segments of programs presented by Alan Jones broadcast on 15 March 2011 [2597, 2614 & 2636 - PDF 565 kb] (accuracy) and on 8 and 11 February 2010 [2540 - DOC 1.1 mb] (accuracy and presentation of significant viewpoints).

    The review found that 2GB had some fact-checking and verification procedures in place. However, it also highlighted shortcomings in programs hosted by Alan Jones, namely:

    Additional confirmation of accuracy and attribution may be required where the production team (and Alan Jones) source factual material from third parties or other non-media sources.
    The editorial pieces, the subject of the ACMA investigations, did not involve the wider production team.
    There are occasions when a controversial issue of public importance will be the subject of editorial and opinion comment on programs hosted by Alan Jones without any presentation of other significant viewpoints on any other 2GB current affairs program.

    To address these issues, 2GB has proposed a series of measures which the ACMA has accepted. A summary of those measures is set out below.

  70. Cato the Elder

    You’re getting in the way of my swinging clue bat.

    Oh, I get it . . . . you think you’re winning, no doubt because

    The ALPBC and Commercial Radio have “separate but equal” regimes

    The ALPBC has occasionally been flogged with a limp lettuce leaf

    and the killer, free speech is apparently:

    . . . a topic worthy of discussion, but is tangential to my correction of people’s errors . . .

    You’re point scoring, not addressing the real issue

    JamesK was right, engaging with you is a waste of my time. However, I must say that I think the clown suit is very fetching

    :D

  71. Alan Moran

    Incidentally, Walter Stark opines, “Karoly’s figure may be derived by assuming that the purported rise of CO2 from the 280 ppm preindustrial level to current levels is due to anthropogenic emissions. This then puts the anthropogenic contribution at about 30% of current levels and Australia’s 1.5% share of global anthropogenic emissions then becomes responsible for about 0.45 % of total atmospheric CO2.

    However, Australia represents about 4% of the global land area and assuming the natural uptake of CO2 is average we become a net sink.

  72. .

    Sinclair

    Are you going to let claims about sexual abuse stand without a link or clarification?

  73. m0nty

    Jarrah is right, I’ll take that to the open thread.

  74. Ivan Denisovich

    How about that? Following a decision of the (“Don’t call us ACMA”) Australian Communications and Media Authority, Macquarie Radio Network will subject 2GB broadcaster Alan Jones to a new regime. You see, Mr Jones and his team will be required to fact-check material and to make a reasonable attempt to present alternative viewpoints.

    How frightfully interesting that the taxpayer funded ABC is not required to abide by such standards.

    As MWD readers will be aware, Kim Dalton (the ABC’s Director of Television) refuses to correct the documentary All The Way, which claims that the Menzies Government resorted to conscription in May 1966 in order that the Australian Army could take control of Phuc Tuy province in South Vietnam. In fact, conscription was introduced in late 1964 and Robert Menzies was not even prime minister in May 1966. See MWD Issues 157, 138, 135, 134 and 133.

    Moreover, senior ABC executive Bruce Belsham remains unfazed that an article by Professor Robert Manne of La Trobe University (“Proudly One of Australia’s Top 500 Big Polluters”) on the ABC’s The Drum contains three factual errors in just one sentence. See MWD Issues 157, 129 and 128.

    2GB employs not one left-of-centre presenter and it will be required to present alternative viewpoints. No such requirement will apply to the ABC – which employs no conservative presenters.

    On ABC Radio’s 702’s Mornings with Linda Mottram today, ABC Media Watch host Jonathan Holmes conversed about Alan Jones’ factual errors and the need to prevent or correct same. He neglected to remind ABC listeners that his program holds the world record for delaying a correction. It took Media Watch a full two decades to correct an error it made in 1991 concerning Angela Pearman. See MWD issues 113 and 100.

    http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/issue-159/

  75. Jarrah

    “Oh, I get it . . . . you think you’re winning”

    It’s not a competition. I simply have facts on my side. To recap:

    - there was no crime
    - the changes ordered were not because of AGW scepticism
    - the ABC gets equal treatment under the law, but effectively is under far greater scrutiny
    - different breaches get different treatment.

    “The ALPBC has occasionally been flogged with a limp lettuce leaf”

    For some reason, you’re persisting in your blatant error. It’s as stupid as claiming the guy who lost his license for speeding is being treated ‘unequally’ to the guy who got jail time for assault.

    “You’re point scoring, not addressing the real issue”

    No, I was pointing out that you’re trying to change the subject of my comment. I hadn’t made any reference to free speech, something everyone here knows I defend vigorously, because I just wanted to clear up Steyn’s false statements so that we could have a discussion based on reality. Instead a succession of people had to be tapped gently with the clue bat when they insisted on being flat-out wrong.

    “engaging with you is a waste of my time”

    Then stop. Come back when you have an argument based on facts, and you’ll find it won’t be such a waste.

  76. cohenite

    jarrah, I’ve read the ACMA decision which is based on its opinion that Jones’s statement about the % of CO2 produced by Australia was his opinion and not, as implied when he made it, as a scientific fact.

    Jones’s ‘opinion’ was that Australia produced 1/100,000th of the CO2 in the atmosphere. Jones also failed to produce any research to susbstantiate this ‘opinion’ presented as a ‘scientific fact’.

    That is Jones’s error; not that his estimation of the amount of CO2 contributed by Australia to the atmospheric bulk total was wrong but that he presented it as a fact.

    Now, I gave you the facts about Jones’s ‘opinion’ above; based on them I made this conclusion:

    1.5% of all CO2, both natural and ACO2 is retained annually to add to the atmospheric bulk.

    Of that 1.5% addition, annually, the ACO2 component is 3.67%; so ALL of nations’ contributions is 3.67/100 x 1.5/100 = 0.000552.

    Australia’s annual emissions are 1.28% of the global ACO2; so 0.000552 x 1.28/100 = fuckall and far less than what Karoly said and probably less than what Jones said.

    Jones should have done his research; but he is closer to the truth than Karoly.

  77. At least one in 20 Catholic priests in Victoria is a child molester, could be one in 12.

    As Sinc asks, if VicPol know this for a “fact”, where are all the arrests?

    And if it’s not a “fact”, but indeed just an “opinion”, then shouldn’t we be sending not just Alan Jones to the re-education camps but anyone who publicly made &/or published this claim?

  78. JamesK

    It’s not a competition. I simply have facts on my side

    ‘Facts’ such as dingbat-leftist Jarrah’s confident assertion yesterday that Romney was lying and Obumma never went no Apology Tour?

    LOL

  79. kevin

    It is always pleasure to visit this site if only to see the depths of stupidity which can be plumbed by a fool like jarrah.

    And does anybody know who constitute the ACMA and what are their qualifications and political leanings?

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Lizzie, do you realise that the ABC is under constant scrutiny? Try googling “ABC bias”.

    Do I realise?? What a patronising joke you are Jarrah.

    Friends and I have gone one better in the past and have tried to make complaint about (among other things) the ABC’s promulgation of complete numeric falsehoods when reporting how many in Sydney turned their lights off in response to Earth Hour. ABC beat up. Complaints: feck off. Political descriptors (implicit opinion) given as factual statement. Plenty. Complain. Feck off.

    So you can do just that yourself, Jarrah, and Munty too, on this issue anyway.

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    … to say nothing of the usual stacking of lefties as invitees on Q and A, and Alberscreechi and others doing disgracefully biased interviews: left (soft and warm) and right (hard and crazy), all masquerading as analytic reportage.

    Bah. Just bah.

  82. C.L.

    Remember a couple of months ago when Tony Jones smacked Archbishop Jenson by asserting that the Bible was originally in Hebrew?

    Masterful research.

  83. Lazlo

    Karoly is comparing Australian anthropogenic emissions to world anthropogenic emissions.

    He ignores non-anthropogenic CO2 emissions on the bogus assumption that all CO2 additions since the industrial revolution have been anthropogenic. This is Skeptical Science quackery. Cohenite exposes it.

    Karoly lies from authority, and ACMA accepts it. Karoly has form in this regard.

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Leigh Sales being oh so friendly and nice to Greg Combet, on ABC 7.30. Both on the same page concerning the word of choice – carbon ‘pricing’ and everything to do with it. No bias there, natch. Fact, natch. It’s a price not a tax, complete fact there, Jarrah. Except it is really a tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax…. that’s my fact.

    Da Hairy Ape grunts mildly: that was like being savaged by a dead sheep, wasn’t it?

  85. kevin

    I suspect that Jarrah is a paid media tart and a staunch defender of the simpering twit, Holmes.

  86. Gab

    And it’s not a damn tax on “carbon” either, ABC. It a tax on carbon dioxide! FFS.

  87. blogstrop

    Works for the ABC? No need to narrow it down that far.

  88. wreckage

    I hadn’t made any reference to free speech, something everyone here knows I defend vigorously

    You really don’t, actually. Occasionally would be more like it. Half-heartedly, perhaps. Unobtrusively? In an open-minded, non-dogmatic dialogue that respects the values and aspirations of the jackbooted?

  89. Gab

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.”

    - Voltaire

  90. Frederic

    Now some of them might be saying that this guy got the facts wrong and therefore he should correct it. Fair enough, corrections are issued by every media outlet, but a government mandated training session in accuracy on a contentious issue sounds more than a little spooky to me. It sounds like communist reeducation camps.

    Is this a new Australia where the “Government” knows what is good for you, and forces its people to not listen to those with a different opinion.

  91. Leeman

    A little-reported case in Adelaide could have an adverse affect on ALL bloggers.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/former-afl-footy-star-shane-radbone-suing-google-for-defamation/story-fnat79vb-1226530731977

    In this case, the former CEO of a failed franchise company is suing Google to find what franchise owner was reporting the company facts prior to its collapse into bankruptcy.

    Google is occasionally rolling over on these kinds of actions, and this coupled with the other abuses to free speech in Australia could spell the end of all the political and critical blogs.

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