This is more than just a conceptual error though it is a conceptual error as well. Obama was speaking in Colorado and was of course reading from his teleprompter, which said:
I want those manufactured here in C…
And when he saw the “C” which was the first letter of Colorado he just went ahead and interpolated China because he doesn’t really know where he is or what he’s saying. He’s just reading from a script someone else has written. Either that or he’s ignorant and vacant between the ears.
He’s really destroyed that meme that he is dependent on a Teleprompter, hasn’t he?
Token
25 Oct 12 at 12:37 pm
Yes i do think he is, some people may call him a great orator, but he is little more than and adequate public speaker, mouthing the words of others with the occaisional snark & rictus grin thrown in for effect. An absolute lightweight.
TOTUS is in a bar drowning its sorrows, regretting the career move and trying to pick up some middle aged smudger.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 12:40 pm
He’d rather be golfing.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 12:41 pm
Ohio, Iowa – what’s the difference?
In Ohio, Biden Talks About All The Ads Being Run Here In Iowa
Must be confusing with all them 57 states.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 12:45 pm
Corps-man ~ Corpse-man, they are the same thing to the teleprompter jesus too.
As many have said, without a teleprompter he is a stuttering idiot, now it appears the same can be said with a teleprompter.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 12:47 pm
Kim Landers, their ABC – “While the Obama campaign is asking which candidate can you trust, the Romney campaign is personalising it by asking which candidate will make things better for your family.”
Please explain.
blogstrop
25 Oct 12 at 12:57 pm
Just remember Gab, Biden Always Says What He Means…
Brian of Moorabbin
25 Oct 12 at 12:57 pm
Why would he want wind turbines, regardless of where they’re manufactured?
Oh that’s right – because he’s a fucking moron.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 12:59 pm
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“vacant between the ears” … | pindanpost
25 Oct 12 at 1:16 pm
I guess that means that “if you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.” He’s right, manufacturing was shipped off shore to China instead.
Rohan
25 Oct 12 at 1:19 pm
“
Either that orhe’s ignorant and vacant between the ears.”Jim Dwyer
25 Oct 12 at 1:20 pm
That’s big…that’s really big.
From a campaign standpoint this slip-up will probably define who wins and loses.
JJP
25 Oct 12 at 1:20 pm
DRUDGE:
C.L.
25 Oct 12 at 1:25 pm
That’s simply wishful thinking.
It’s a simple slip.
We look like desperate idiots trying to raise it’s significance.
There so much more of his lies, misinformation and failure we can point to.
JamesK
25 Oct 12 at 1:26 pm
Paul Ryan delivered his first major policy address [VIDEO 27mins] since becoming the Republican Vice Presidential nominee. He made remarks on upward mobility and the economy at Cleveland State University in Cleveland, Ohio.
No Republican has won the White House without carrying Ohio.
JamesK
25 Oct 12 at 1:28 pm
What we’re missing here is Obama’s supreme intelligence is too fast for his own teleprompter to keep up with.
ar
25 Oct 12 at 1:30 pm
Avik Roy, Forbes: The Real ‘War on Women’ is Being Waged by Obamacare
Many of Roy’s arguments are made by Ryan in his very good speech linked to above
JamesK
25 Oct 12 at 1:32 pm
Jane Roe of ‘Roe v Wade’ Airs Anti-Obama Ad in Florida (Video)
“Since then, over 50 million babies have been murdered. I will take this burden to my grave.
“Please, don’t follow in my mistakes. DO NOT vote for Barack Obama. He murders babies.”
JamesK
25 Oct 12 at 1:40 pm
And when he’s not murdering babies, he’s chowing down on puppies!
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 1:46 pm
I was struck by a comment on Sheridan’s article in The Oz, by an ozzie in New York (Tim of USA), who reckons the media and the predictive poll benchmarks are wrong, (based on 2008 data).
He has a sort of outsiders eye for the meaningful, I dont quite know why, and its sort of consistent with my gut feeling.
Its not really close, its Romney to win comfortably.
Hopefully this is not wishful thinking, or else wawatf.
If the MSM find out they will well and truly go beserk.
Jannie
25 Oct 12 at 1:54 pm
http://www.harvardconservatives.com/2012/10/23/some-polling-mathematics/
The above is a new blog that Greg Mankiw linked to in his blog recently.
tgs
25 Oct 12 at 1:58 pm
New York Times: Romney can’t win.
Romney Upbeat, but Math Is the Same.
C.L.
25 Oct 12 at 2:01 pm
Not either or but both! He is an empty suit and always has been, just the token figurehead of the Chicago mob.
Jazza
25 Oct 12 at 2:04 pm
Michael Ramirez cartoon on Obumma’s military ignorance.
JamesK
25 Oct 12 at 3:14 pm
I read the same article by Greg Sheridan, and he feels certain that Obama will win- or Romney will. As he explains the college voting system, it’s about how many will bother to vote, and in which states- so the race is still open, when the polls are this close.
Nuke Gray
25 Oct 12 at 3:14 pm
“An absolute lightweight”
Ha, don’t you just love all these commentators sitting in their cubicles, or bedrooms at home or in front of the box, calling the President of the United States a “lightweight”.
Must be cool to be feel so superior in your own mind.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 3:19 pm
Yes, Nihilist, he’s no lightweight. He’s a real celebrity.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 3:20 pm
Not a lightweight, Nihilist (your avatar, how horrible, why?), he’s a deadweight.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
25 Oct 12 at 3:26 pm
According to Rabz, he’s neither a celebrity or a lightweight. He’s a ‘fucking moron”. Yes, yes, of course he is. Of course the American people would elect a President with a deficient IQ.
What a bunch of tools you are. Fine; disagree with a person’s politics but calling the POTUS a “fucking moron” just makes you look foolish.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 3:28 pm
Need a tissue?
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 3:29 pm
What a strange criticism…
Do you even know what it is Lizzie?
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 3:30 pm
It’ll take a crystal ball to predict exactly how many voters turn out for each side at the polls, but I think that you can take it as a given that numbers voting for the Wun will be lower than in 2008. That immediately biases the Polls against Romney, as almost all the polls persist in weighting the partisan voters according to the last election results, that is, they’re all D+7 or +8. That Romney is ahead in some polls despite this weighting suggests that Romney should win, and fairly comfortably at that. It’s still not too late to get Romney at better than 5/2 against (ie Betfair has Romney at 2.86), which in a two-horse race is gift odds.
Cold-Hands
25 Oct 12 at 3:33 pm
Like you, he is not as smart as he thinks he is.
Dangph
25 Oct 12 at 3:34 pm
All this talk about getting tough on China seems to be a bipartisan way of blaming China for American decline in manufacturing (or, more accurately, manufacturing jobs).
Scapula
25 Oct 12 at 3:35 pm
JamesK nailed it…
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 3:37 pm
Lol. Yep he’s Einstein. Just darker skin otherwise a dead ringer.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 3:42 pm
Nihilism: Total rejection of all established authority and institutions;doctrine of Russian extreme revolutionary party in 19th 20th century
You would last 2 seconds
sam w
25 Oct 12 at 3:44 pm
Yes, yes, very good. Quote one conservative online news site (set up by Tucker Carlson) and there’s your proof.
My god! You’re right! He is a Moran!!! (sic) How could I have been blind for so long?
I could dredge through hours of you tube footage and articles and blog posts dedicated to the frightening stupidity of George W Bush. But do you all actually think President Bush was a ‘fucking moron”?
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 3:49 pm
Damn, you got me. I thought it was just a character in The Big Lebowski…
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 3:51 pm
Well, so far, Nihilst, you’ve given no reason to consider Obama anything but a teleprompter lightwieght, oh yeah, you said he was POTUS so that apparently seals the deal for you. That’s enough for you. lol
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 3:54 pm
No fuckhead, I quoted a right wing site quoting the kenyan and what he said on the today show. That’s indisputable.
The fuckimg moron is modern day Luddite. It’s what he actually said. It would be funny if it wasn’t said by the US prez.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 3:55 pm
ok reprieve…dude
sam w
25 Oct 12 at 3:58 pm
Hey Phill the Nil
You need to go and take some trolling lessons
First, if you have a weird and misleading handle, don’t give it away so easily. Make them work for it. Now, instead of pretending to be a possibly cool and weird violent political type, you’ve outed yourself as just a sad middle aged fool with the hots for some half-assed cult comedy movie. Fail.
Second, don’t just show up and start calling names. People will just call names back at you and they have way more practice. Unless you’re a bit twisted and like being on the bottom of a pile on? Make them work for it. Easily the best troll here is Hammy, who still has people confused as to whether he is for real, or is just taking the piss. Fail.
You have to make them work for it. Try again.
Back under your bridge, loser.
Cato the Elder
25 Oct 12 at 4:06 pm
Yes, the oiled up trannie who swang by to call us all lightweights proved he has all the cunning of Baldrick by leaving a little clue that proves his name is Phil.
Token
25 Oct 12 at 4:14 pm
Hammy (aka Gareth Hamilton) just has to be taking the piss. His opinions are so counter-factual they have to be parody.
Cold-Hands
25 Oct 12 at 4:15 pm
I only called you all tools. Which, if you persist in calling the US president a “fucking moron”, it’s exactly how you come across.
JamesK said it himself.
Cato, am I supposed to panic that you know my real name?
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:15 pm
For those of you who do not know Phil, he comes by regularly with a new name, insults every liberally and then gets banned by Sinc or one of the other moderators.
Enjoy your visit Phil, it will be short.
Token
25 Oct 12 at 4:17 pm
Yes but it’s the same as me quoting one left leaning blog that quotes G W Bush as something silly or mispronounced and then me taking from that that George W Bush is a “fucking moron”.
Did you miss my point dickhead?
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:17 pm
So which one of Obama’s “57 states” do you think he’s jetting to today?
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:18 pm
Politicians who spruik wind turbines are fucking morons, you fucking moron.
End of.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 4:19 pm
The Federated state of Romnesia…
Cold-Hands
25 Oct 12 at 4:19 pm
Moderators, clean up required in aisle 7.
Token
25 Oct 12 at 4:20 pm
I’ve never been banned from here or any other site.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:20 pm
- said Obama, when he was in Hawaii.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:21 pm
Sorry, i thought this was a grown up, intelligent site with mature and robust discussion based on free thought.
Clearly I was wrong you fucking dickhead.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:22 pm
– Obama.
He’s such a lightweight. But a really good celebrity.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:23 pm
You have no point to make fuckhead.
You came on here admonishing people for thinking/suggesting the Kenyan is a fucking turnip.
I then brought up proof that he is in fact a turnip by quoting a para which contained his exact words proving that in fact he is an idiot.
Your reply? George Bush.
Fuck off outta here you moron.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 4:27 pm
No actually you’re right on this occasion. It just doesn’t need fucking idiots like you here that halve the site’s IQ with your stupidity and sanctimonious comments
Now seriously, fuck off.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 4:29 pm
Not since you’ve been infesting the place.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 4:31 pm
The difference, bone head, is that Obama has been touted for four years as The Greatest Orator In The World And Perhaps The Greatest Since Marcus Antonius.
Yet time and time again we see evidence – incontestable evidence – that he is scarcely able to string five words together without a telepromoter. Even with a telepromoter, he fucks up.
Rob Oakeshott is a better speaker.
C.L.
25 Oct 12 at 4:32 pm
See my post about Catallaxy Files being a grown up, intelligent site with mature and robust discussion based on free thought.
Thanks for verifying it
Oh yes, of course; one paragraph on a right wing news site “proving that in fact he is an idiot”.
Excellent argument there JC. Just irrefutable. So powerful…
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:32 pm
Obama, “No, no. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something.”
By his own admission, a retarded lightweight.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:32 pm
Yep, go and brush up on your Austrian language skills and knowledge of those Polish death camps in WW2.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 4:33 pm
Such powerful and intellectually stimulating debate from one of Australia’s leading right wing blogs.
This is no more than childish name calling. Did I some how click on Facebook instead?
Bye.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:36 pm
–after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008.
He’s nothing without TOTUS.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:36 pm
Okay, that’s just plain weird.
Bye again.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:37 pm
–Obama campaigning in Sunrise, Florida.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:38 pm
Oh, FFS, you are a fucking moron.
Toodle-oo, sweet cheeks, don’t let the door hit your big fat arse on the way out, now!
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 4:40 pm
Okay then, let’s quote him directly as it seems your unable to figure out what the moron said.
Quoting odumbo
In other words there’s been massive unemployment since the advent of the industrial revolution in any nation that has gone through industrialization, according to the genius
Oh hang on , there hasn’t been.
That’s not a throw away line, dickhead. It’s what he actually thinks.
As I said, fuck off.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 4:40 pm
Oops you’re
JC
25 Oct 12 at 4:42 pm
I really think you’re missing my point JC. I could dig up any number of quotes from GWB that make him look like he’s dumber than a bag of hammers. My point is that referring to a biased media proves nothing.
You can’t sum upa man’s intelligence based on one or two quotes reported by a biased media.
Nihilist #1
25 Oct 12 at 4:53 pm
Obama, after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania.
Whining lightweight.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 4:54 pm
No I’m not.
But we’re talking about the dumb Kenyan who thinks automation causes mass unemployment. Your bush reference is a pathetic straw man.
That’s what he said you idiot.
I’m not quoting a biased media dickweed. I’m directly quoting the Kenyan who thinks the industrial revolution caused mass unemployment.
.
Yes, sure you can if the comment is stupid enough and that one was.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 5:03 pm
“I could dig up any number of quotes from GWB that make him look like he’s dumber than a bag of hammers.”
Not plain unedited quotes with some context you couldn’t. Unless you count his references to his mainstream christian belief as evidence of ‘dumbness’ like the US media did. GWB was not rhetorically glib, but his public statements were usually thoughtful, interesting and indicated wide reading (apart from the Bible!) and general interest in things. In contrast, Obama just mouths cliches, much of it he has never obviously never thought much about.
one old bruce
25 Oct 12 at 5:06 pm
No one is forcing you to be here. Yet you continue to soil the carpet.
Skuter
25 Oct 12 at 5:11 pm
Nihilist, who appears to be a motorbike enthusiast also appears to want to have an argument. There is no doubt that Bush’s solecisms, contretemps, foibles, whatevers were covered much more fastidiously than Obamas; but I never saw Bush do this.
That’s just fucking weird.
cohenite
25 Oct 12 at 5:19 pm
Another unelectable crank and hypothetical VP running mate for Santorum has now said on the campaign trail that God “intends” rape victims to bear the child of the rapist.
There goes another likely Republican Senate gain, thanks to lunatic infiltration of the Republican Party.
We need to devise a psychological test for Republican candidates, including pertinent questions such as: “Are you a swivel-eyed fuckwit who intends to say dumbass shit and let the Democrats win? Oh you are? Thanks for coming.”
Fisky
25 Oct 12 at 6:15 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen i give you Nihilist numbers; proof that 1st cousins shouldn’t marry.
Dude,give your case of how awesome the teleprompter jesus is or give a precise rebuttal of how lacking of being POTUS Romney is.
As it stands you are little more than a diversion, a boil on the buttocks of polite discourse.
Don’t bother crying about the abuse you get, that is just victimhood with a chip on the shoulder chaser.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 6:16 pm
Interesting!
Scapula
25 Oct 12 at 6:20 pm
On cue Nihilist leaves and Crapula turns up – are you guys tag teaming?
Is there something you need to share with the group?
Or were you just beaten like a red haired stepchild and have a need for self flaggelation?
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 6:26 pm
I think the comparison with GWB might be valid …. if it was done fully and fairly.
Most of the GWB “gaffes” were confected “desk calendar” mythology or revolved around him putting an extra syllable in “nucalear”.
On the other hand the duffus currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue makes cock-up after cock-up which are all ignored by the MSM under the guise of “respect for the office of President” … a quaint concept rediscovered in 2008.
Exhibit A … Fuck-knuckle Obama signs a greeting on a visit to Colombia wishing the people of “Columbia” all the best.
Did we read about it in the NY Times? Nooooo
If it had been GWB it would have been reported as a major diplomatic incident.
Leigh Lowe
25 Oct 12 at 6:26 pm
Obama, exasperated by reporters after a news conference.
Whingeing lightweight.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 6:30 pm
A bit harsh on lightweights.
Ogabe is more a bantamweight with an inferiority complex.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 6:32 pm
Obama, on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people. he’s dumber than a bag of hammers.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 6:36 pm
Phil the Nil
Still Fail.
Try harder, or it’s back under the bridge for you.
Cato the Elder
25 Oct 12 at 6:37 pm
Obama, lost somewhere in the United States of Obama.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 6:47 pm
Nihilist – you ask: do I even know what a nihilist is? Well you fool, it so happens I do. My first husband was a university medalist in philosophy and we did a lot of pillow talk until things got very post-modern on us. I used to carry around Thus Spoke Zarathustra in my backpack, and I am not unfamiliar with the influence of Heidegger. Shit, I’ve even read Baudrillard and Foucault.
Let Wikipedia refresh everyone with your avatar wankery:
Go take a running post-modern jump.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
25 Oct 12 at 6:49 pm
If you want to start on the right track and have a serious discussion then explain and argue why you think the Kenyan has god like IQ.
It’s your sanctimoniousness people are objecting to. I don’t think the Kenyan is dumb but you would be overreaching to suggest he has better than average IQ.
He just isn’t that smart and a pretty shallow thinker at that.
Anyone who thinks that automation has created unemployment should not be president. He’s a two bit punk why over his head.
JC
25 Oct 12 at 6:59 pm
Getting better but still not there. If you keep trying you may make a half-decent troll when you grow up.
Cato the Elder
25 Oct 12 at 7:00 pm
Waah! Waah! What’d you say?
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 7:03 pm
Phil the Nil really fits the Macquarie Dictionary definition of Nihilist.
Token
25 Oct 12 at 7:03 pm
Oh please nihilist – kiss my curvy buttocks, childish name calling is reserved for the greatest of buffoons, you should be flattered.
I digress – teleprompter jesus is the messiah for the left (the sad world you inhabit), pity he is a stuttering clown, it kind of kills the whole O’messiah meme.
Maybe you can call on Joe Biden as the 2nd coming or Pelosi as a voice of……….a voice.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 7:05 pm
Well, you do but Phil doesn’t. Well, he does now that you’ve educated the little nuff-nuff.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 7:06 pm
Phill
You’re going at this backwards. The injured innocence is supposed to come before the poo-throwing and face-pulling.
I think you’ll. have to try again another day, as you’ve been sprung this time.
Keep trying, it’s amusing to watch
Cato the Elder
25 Oct 12 at 7:09 pm
You know, they come here all snark and name-calling and then whine like a toddler when they get back that which they dished out. So unfair, waaah!
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 7:12 pm
Well, these days I’d prefer that sort of pillow talk to post-modern leftie wankery. Lucky you.
As people here know, my second husband is a Hairy Irish Ape.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
25 Oct 12 at 7:14 pm
You have it arse about. People here have long pointed out the hypocrisy of the press carrying on like howler monkeys when Bush gaffed but zip it when Obama fucks up. So now we’re getting our own back and you call us hypocrites. You really are a C Nut.
Abu Chowdah
25 Oct 12 at 7:20 pm
Obama has accused Romney of being all over the map, At least Romney knows that China is not in the USA…….yet.
Spatacrobat
25 Oct 12 at 7:25 pm
Compare and contrast the first post from Nihilist#1 @ 3:19pm with his post @ 6:36pm.
Nihilist#1 if your aim was to point out the hypocrisy of the Right, then you made a very poor start and continued for nearly three hours, only when the idiocy of your initial argument was made clear by one and all did you revert to plan B and the hypocrisy of the right.
Keep trolling, you need the practice.
Old Fridgie
25 Oct 12 at 7:29 pm
Trolls don’t get serious discussion here, Nihilist, because they come here with the express intention of getting in the way.
If Obama is called a ‘moron’ here it is because he has shown himself to be less than capable as POTUS. ‘Moron’ is the Catallaxy word for incapable: get used to it. You have been given plenty of evidence of Obama’s incapacities as POTUS on this thread already. Argue against them with illustrations of what you think are Obama’s very good policies and their excellent implementation and you will get plenty of rebuttal. Do that seriously, or get out.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
25 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
See? One can train monkeys only to a certain level….
Wilma Kerr-Staadt
25 Oct 12 at 7:54 pm
“…here in China!”
Damn he says that so easily. And his walkback is so clumsy – the least he could have done was to do a double-take and say “Oh hell, what was I saying?” It probably would have got a laugh from the crowd and defused the error.
perturbed
25 Oct 12 at 8:11 pm
Nil – You are mistaken. This is primarily an economics blog not a political one. Or I should say the politics are derived from the economics (ie Austrian). Likewise the science (which is where I come in, when the Cats let me out of my tower).
Mr Obama’s a moron. Economically. He has guided his ship of state for 4 years and in doing so has increased Federal debt by over 100%. Spending seed corn works until you run out of seed corn. At some stage in the second Obama term the lenders who bought Treasuries will sell them, fearing losses to come Spanish-style.
We already are seeing signs of this as the Chinese are sniffing around after hard assets like gold and like Cobby Station. Treasury auction prices will rise to a point where the already ridiculously overspent non-existent Federal budget will melt down due to increased interest payments. Mr Obama has shown not one single sign of understanding this process.
In that respect he is a moron. And he’s even worse without his teleprompter.
Bruce
25 Oct 12 at 8:15 pm
For all the stupid crap Obama has done, you’re gonna pick on him for this? He made a verbal gaffe – people do that. Why not get stuck into matters of substance, like his illegal wars in Africa and Asia, his immoral bailing out of corporations, his meddling in health care, his administration’s lack of transparency, his persecution of people consuming mind-altering substances or his trampling on people’s privacy and individual rights?
This is school-yard amateur stuff.
Lee from WA
25 Oct 12 at 8:32 pm
To win their freedom, Americans will have to pay off the teleprompter gal, and get her to type shit into the keyboard. Obama will repeat it, after 15 to 20 seconds realise his mistake and then look askance at the teleprompter which will not save him.
I would buy tickets to see such an event.
Thumbnail
25 Oct 12 at 8:50 pm
Go back through old threads it all been covered here before in detail…
Old Fridgie
25 Oct 12 at 8:57 pm
Moran????? you mean like the crime family?
A bit of a freudian slip there nihilist.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 8:57 pm
What a stupid, dissembling deadshit you are.
I wasn’t having a go at obama “for getting a word out of place”, I was having a go at him for continuing to advocate utterly failed, moronic policies – as I’ve already explained to you.
But then we could hardly expect a panty peeing, perpetually aggrieved adolescent idiot like you to comprehend that.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 8:58 pm
“Illegal wars” pretty much sums up your pedigree too. Wars are not games, they are the use of brute force and should be decisive, not umpired by the UN. That gets you North Korea.
blogstrop
25 Oct 12 at 9:12 pm
I’m surprised that trolls feel they can (a) get all sniffy about this neighbourhood being, you know, beneath their intellectual plane, then (b) keep coming back looking for more action. Is that a mature or logical stance? I think not. Just piss off, losers.
blogstrop
25 Oct 12 at 9:15 pm
Hit a nerve did i princess, so was it a freudian slip? I’m guessing thats a yes, Mr wannabe gangsta.
So you gonna put a cap in my ass? beotch.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 9:16 pm
Okay, so you’re calling out hypocrisy. Fair enough. But take a position, Nihilist. What do you think of the jokes at dubya’s expense? Is everyone fair game for this stuff, in your opinion, or nobody? Calling hypocrisy isn’t enough. Explain where you stand.
And by the way, Steve didn’t just post this as a simple “gotcha, you made a mistake.” The point – according to the post – is that the error happened because Obama was reading from a script someone else had written for him. The words were not his, the point was not one he thought of, or decided to make.
The criticism of Obama as teleprompter man isn’t just about the fact that he uses teleprompters – the criticism underneath the joking is that he isn’t very bright and his best moments come from scripts written by others.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 9:18 pm
…peel back a lefty and you’ll find a pathetically small person who sniggered at the snips of George W Bush they were battery fed by the MSM.
Token
25 Oct 12 at 9:20 pm
But the ABC always zeroing in on “Romney Gaffes” is ok.
blogstrop
25 Oct 12 at 9:29 pm
Still here de-nihilist?
blogstrop
25 Oct 12 at 9:30 pm
So, still no rebuttal of my central point.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 9:33 pm
This is why I asked him to pick a position.
Gaffes by politicians of the right are evidence for the ‘conservatives are stupid’ meme; gaffes by politicians of the left are mere slips of the tongue. Most of Romney’s gaffes aren’t actually gaffes, they’re just instances of clumsy wording.
Obama’s gaffes tend to be amusing mistakes (57 states is another one). Biden just says crazy shit all the time. Only Ryan has, so far, made no errors.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 9:35 pm
nor mine. I thought this could be fun, but alas.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 9:35 pm
Usual story – accuse of poor debating skills then refuse to debate. Sheesh! Its so childish I feel like I’m stuck in classroom with Barack in his old madrassa.
Bruce
25 Oct 12 at 9:43 pm
Why? We call Julia Gillard moronic and stupid for similar reasons. She calls Tony Abbott moronic and stupid in Parliament so its a fair swap. Traditional Oz repartee.
Phil, you should read Heinlein’s “Double Star” and think about Bill Ayres.
Bruce
25 Oct 12 at 9:49 pm
Don’t be so precious. I agree that Obama’s not stupid. But this is just partisan rhetoric. People are indulging in a bit of mockery of someone who appears to all the world like he has an extremely healthy, outsized ego.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 9:50 pm
We’ve revised that hypothesis given what an utter failure he’s been.
And for the last time, if you’re a politician in a position of power who advocates and enacts utterly failed policies such as wind turbines and solar (solyndra, anyone?) then you are a moron repeating the same action and expecting a different result.
Oh, sorry, that would make you an insane moron.
Rabz
25 Oct 12 at 9:52 pm
Oh, I don’t doubt that Obama has some smarts. At the very minimum, rising to the top of Chicago politics as he did requires rat cunning.
The mistake in the video didn’t happen because he’s stupid it happened because he relies too much on reading prepared speeches from teleprompters, and didn’t actually know what he was saying.
He was thinking something like, “I could really go a hamburger right now.”
dd
25 Oct 12 at 9:58 pm
Thank you nihilist, i’ll accept your admission of defeat.
Now – about your freudian slip thing – do you often fantasise about your mother/sister/uncle daddy?
Share this with the group – it may be liberating for you.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:00 pm
No he is a Moran – my gangsta friend.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:02 pm
This is why people take the p**s out of Obama:
It takes unbelievable hubris to make such a statement.
Token
25 Oct 12 at 10:03 pm
dd, don’t even bother trying to engage with the troll. He is spilling verbal diarrhoea everywhere. You don’t want to get that stuff on your shoes…
Skuter
25 Oct 12 at 10:04 pm
Wex fuck off.
We want classy trolls ’round these parts not inane twits like you.
JamesK
25 Oct 12 at 10:06 pm
AAAAAAAaaaahahahahahahahahaha
Really – - – Barry Sotero – - aaaahahahahahaha
The golfer in chief never takes a day off – aaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
*wipes tears of mirth*
Champagne Comedy
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:06 pm
Nihilism means nothing to me.
Rococo Liberal
25 Oct 12 at 10:07 pm
In this case i think it is interchangeable with onanism.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:09 pm
Of course the truth is that Nihilist mispelt ‘moron’ as ‘moran’ and was lucky that in the US ‘moran’ is the moron’s way spelling of moron. Nihilist is not subtle enough to use the term ironically, and knows that american slang is shite that we don’t use here. Ergo, as the house lawyer, I conclude that the evidence clearly shows that Nihilist was guilty of a typo, and made things a lot worse by trying to pretend the mistake was deliberate. So Nihilist in fact did the same as Obama.
Rococo Liberal
25 Oct 12 at 10:21 pm
You might say that Onan the Barbarian is amongst us, or is that Onan the Moran?
Rococo Liberal
25 Oct 12 at 10:23 pm
Paddle faster, I hear banjos!
Rococo Liberal
25 Oct 12 at 10:26 pm
That little boy has a pretty mouth.
Hold his head Bubba – i wanna show him ’bout the rabbits.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:27 pm
That wasn’t the point. What happened is that Trump backtracked. They’ve got damaging material on Obama of some sort, and Trump fired a warning shot to the Obama camp, who were about to descend into gutter-level attacks on Romney.
The message was “don’t go there.”
dd
25 Oct 12 at 10:29 pm
Face it Nihilist – we own you, we live in your head free and lease out the extra space to developers.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:29 pm
You poor bitch; my deepest sympathy.
In response to this nihilist character, I relink to this about Obama.
Did Bush ever do anything like that?
cohenite
25 Oct 12 at 10:30 pm
Nihilist
You referenced it a couple of times, so as to cover up your error.
I think you really are a load of the Barclays.
Rococo Liberal
25 Oct 12 at 10:32 pm
This is true. Most successful politicians must have an above average intelligence. It’s a cognitively demanding job. Even just keeping track of the lies must take some smarts. They’re not genius smart because then they wouldn’t be able connect with average people, but they are smart.
The problem is that they have massive egos coupled with being fairly smart. Often they don’t understand their limitations. Maybe when he was a kid, little Obama was better than his classmates at spelling or whatnot, so he thought to himself, hey, I’m smarter than these people, I should be able to tell them what to do and how to live their lives.
Now, because they are smart but not super smart, they don’t understand that things don’t work that way. No one—not even a genius—has enough brainpower to direct society and the economy. The distributed intelligence of society counts for a lot. The politician may be smarter in raw IQ terms than, say, some carpet layer, but the carpet layer knows more about the business of carpets than the politician. But yet the politician feels compelled to tell the carpet layer how to live his life.
Lots of lefties like you, Nihilist, are in this same boat. You are kind of smart, but not as smart as you think you are. And because of this state of affairs, because of this lack of understanding of how the world works, people like you and your buddy Obama end up do disastrously moronic things.
You may be smart but in effect you are morons.
Dangph
25 Oct 12 at 10:33 pm
I vote we sell him on ebay. Pronto.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 10:34 pm
another reason to vote for Romney
(bit of cut and paste)
val majkus
25 Oct 12 at 10:34 pm
No, I don’t agree. Nihilist, through the snark, was trying to make a substantial point. Specifically nihilist was accusing Steve and the commenters of engaging in one-sided partisanship – laughing at something because it came from ‘the other side’ rather than because that kind of thing gets mocked from all quarters.
Personally, I thought if he(?) wants to play contrarian, this was a pretty weak attack. Imagine everyone admits that yes, it was a bit of juvenile low-brow partisan yukking. Well, damn. Like no-one ever does that.
There are plenty of strong political and ideological positions presented here that I would have thought would be much richer targets for someone of a left-wing persuasion, than the fact that people made fun of Barack Obama.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 10:36 pm
I’m having an Anchorman moment.
nilk
25 Oct 12 at 10:38 pm
If Obama entered Harvard or Columbia overtly as an overseas student (eg a scholarship) then he would either be dishonest or disqualified to be President. Catch 22.
Or is just could be he was an embarassingly bad student.
Bruce
25 Oct 12 at 10:41 pm
You know it will be a losing deal. Nobody would buy this level of crap.
Carpe Jugulum
25 Oct 12 at 10:41 pm
There’s a sucker born every minute, Carpe. Look at nilhillbilly, he thinks a title makes a person smart.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 10:43 pm
I don’t think politicians have to be be intelligent, just charismatic. Some of the silliest people I know are charismatic and have fooled smarter people into helping them to success.
I am sure that there are some really smart carpet layers who couldn’t be arsed working hard at anything else, or who just didn’t know anyone who could help them escpae.
Rococo Liberal
25 Oct 12 at 10:43 pm
Romney’s all over the map like Inspector Clouseau was all over the globe.
Scapula
25 Oct 12 at 10:44 pm
Lazlo
25 Oct 12 at 10:47 pm
Hey, there’s nothing wrong with being a tradie.
I knew a very smart carpet layer, long time ago. Best scrabble player I’d ever met.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 10:48 pm
uh, yes, it’s called campaigning. He’s doing a pretty good job of it.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 10:48 pm
Do try and be a little original in your trolling, there’s a good chap.
Gab
25 Oct 12 at 10:51 pm
The other thing that Trump did was steal another 24 hour cycle away from Obama, putting him on the defensive. Obama took the bait and ended up talking about Trump, again. Sucker!
…and Romney wins that little 24 hour cycle.
dd
25 Oct 12 at 11:03 pm
I didn’t mean to suggest that carpet layers are dumb. My point is that even if you had a carpet layer of average intelligence, they would still know more about their patch than a politician who is of above average intelligence. Now multiply that situation by the millions of people in the population. The politician is hopelessly outclassed by the distributed intelligence of society. Any decisions the politician makes that affect society can therefore easily turn out to be moronic in effect, no matter how smart they may be.
Dangph
25 Oct 12 at 11:09 pm
dd – Nihilist Phill unfortunately has not debated the economic issue. Obama managed to outdo Harry Reid, who has illegally failed to pass or even propose a Federal budget for 3 years and presides over a Federal deficit of 40% of government expenditure. Obama did propose a budget. He managed to get exactly zero votes in both the House and the Senate, both sides voted it down unanimously.
This alone equals 1st order economic moron. Even Wayne Swan understands the need for some fiscal responsibility.
Bruce
25 Oct 12 at 11:13 pm
Nihilist. You are not welcome here. Nobody wants to engage with you. Nobody likes you. You are like the drunk at the party that everyone wants to go away.
How can I put this unambiguously? Umm: fuck off.
There are pleny of other parties (eg The Dumb) who would welcome you.
Lazlo
25 Oct 12 at 11:16 pm
Ahhh … it is all clear to me now.
The 57 states of the U. S. of A.
There’s the 50 North American ones …. from Alabama to Wyoming.
Plus Hunan, GuangDong, Tianjin, Jiangxi, Shandong, Henan and Jiangshu.
Leigh Lowe
25 Oct 12 at 11:37 pm
Quite so.
Obama was on TV making jokes about Trump instead of campaigning. The speed of the response will encourage Trump to keep pushing his button.
Keith
25 Oct 12 at 11:39 pm
Rudd also thought he was smarter than everyone else. Two peas in a pod, egomaniacs who play everyone and think they got where they are through genius. I’ve met a few heads of agencies who were the same. Their brain cells create a wonderful fantasy memory of their brilliance, while carefully scrubbing away the mental images of the many times they stabbed people in the back, stole credit and the many cocks they sucked.
Abu Chowdah
25 Oct 12 at 11:54 pm
The Kenyan smart? Smart dude Larry Summers doesn’t seem to have met his match.
JC
26 Oct 12 at 12:15 am
Summers was one of the architects of the GFC.
Scapula
26 Oct 12 at 12:21 am
That’s an interesting game. If the Kenyan release he’s losing does he go after Romney with that gutter stuff or not?
And if Romney thinks he’s winning does he assume the Kenyan will go for broke and have Trump push the transcripts?
It’s obvious now that Trump must have the college stuff and it isn’t pretty. This stuff is going to come out in the next two weeks.
JC
26 Oct 12 at 12:22 am
oops
if the Kenyan thinks he’s losing…
JC
26 Oct 12 at 12:23 am
Trump is hilarious but he’s no dummy like Obama.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/trump-rips-gloria-allred-shes-a-terrible-lawyer-anything-she-says-id-take-with-a-grain-of-salt-video/
Gab
26 Oct 12 at 12:27 am
True, there is different types of intelligence and knowledge. Obama is arrogant, precious and a complete dullard on economic, military and foreign affair matters.
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26 Oct 12 at 9:22 am
This does not even not even make sense.
.
26 Oct 12 at 9:24 am
The whole TelePrompTer thing makes me think of liar liar, with Steve Corell and Jim Carrey. The scene where Carrey overrides the TelePrompTer and makes Corell talk gibberish is just hilarious stuff.
brc
26 Oct 12 at 10:06 am
I think picking up on minor verbal mishaps by either side is juvenile. Unless it reveals something substantial about the pollie, I think very little should be read into it.
This is the sort of shit that makes politicians act like moronic robots, spouting pre-tested lines without any reference to real questions thrown at them. Every small slip of the tongue is treated like a revelation from God at Mount Sinai and they are hounded to death about it.
Lee from WA
26 Oct 12 at 11:31 am
As a general rule I wish people would stop demanding that leftwingers stay away from the site. I enjoy arguing with leftwingers. Keeps me from getting bored.
dd
26 Oct 12 at 12:34 pm
Likewise. But as Bilbo found the trollish ones especially don’t like sunlight shining into their dark corners, so sometimes the arguments can be a bit futile.
Bruce
26 Oct 12 at 1:59 pm
Is it Michelle or the Arab world? Just asking…
Nanuestalker
26 Oct 12 at 4:07 pm
Not only do the alp not give a shit about the economy, they are salting the earth for the only party that does.
jumpnmcar
26 Oct 12 at 4:47 pm