(Reposted from the other thread as Doomlord pulled a swifty on me).
This is scary stuff:
Caddell warns Republican operatives and conservative activists to be wary of a late October surprise (even a November surprise) which could shift momentum toward President Obama if the public is not inoculated now. From Breitbart:
“October Surprises,” real and imagined, have been recurrent in US political history. The term can be thought of two ways: First, it is the simple reality that the unexpected “black swan” can emerge at any time, including on the eve of an election. Second, there’s the more nefarious idea that an incumbent could use the power of his office to affect the election. And such possible abuse by an incumbent has provoked challengers in elections to use the October Surprise phrase preemptively, as a way of warning voters to discount some last-minute bombshell.
Caddell anticipates a move by the Obama administration which could serve such a “nefarious” purpose:
[A] possible US military action against terrorists in Libya. We might first note that the entire Obama narrative on Libya has collapsed, leaving any Obama politico–including the totally political national security adviser, Tom Donilon–understandably desperate to do something to change the Libya story.
The national security expert advising Tea Party Patriots further fleshes out the potential scenario for PJ Tatler in this email:
Read on as Pat Caddell, who was George McGovern’s pollster in 1972, and Jimmy Carter’s pollster in 1976 and 1980, details what the spineless prez could do.
Sinc, I am a relative newcomer here, but I don’t understand why Graeme gets banned all of the time, yet objectionable pieces of excrement such as SfB remain.
Sure, Graeme exhibits signs of being completely unhinged, but to my mind, Steve deserves to be binned due to his incessant trolling.
Is there more to it?
Tricksy little hobbitses… you tricksed me by starting new a thread.
As I just said on the other one:
I like the idea of TrollDelay for people like sfb.
Unlike Blair’s version of TrollDelay, which simply delays their comments from appearing, mine would also delay the time it took them to see new content. This would prevent them from derailing new threads or discussions as soon as they’re created.
Fleeced. I blog on an aviation form (under a different pseudonym) that has an “ignore” function that allows you to never see posts from people that you select. A great feature that would be useful here.
Caddell warns Republican operatives and conservative activists to be wary of a late October surprise (even a November surprise) which could shift momentum toward President Obama if the public is not inoculated now.
Next conspiracy: Obama organised the Hurricane to boost his election prospects!
The problem is not primarily with the trolls but with the Cats who can’t resist feeding them, as much ‘fun’ as that might be. I guarantee that they would go elsewhere if totally ignored. Doomlord would then only have to deal with those that go beyond the bounds of civility or legality.
I have been reading the Blog for some time, but only recently been work and time free enough to comment.
I am surprised that anybody should be banned around here. This is a place for robust and unfettered exchange. Must be in response to something unspeakable.
But surely good ideas are stronger than bad ideas. We dont have institutional strength, but logic and human behaviour favour us.
For what its worth, I would rather ‘ignore’ Trolls etc, or Leftist provocateurs, banning them makes me uncomfortable – I always like to know something of what they think and exactly where they are coming from.
A brief report from RT about foreign weaponry in Syria.
Translated and subtitled vid at the link, transcript:
00:01 The Russian General Command has stated today that Syrian opposition is using weapons
00:05 of foreign origin, including American. According to the head of the Command Nicolay Makarov
00:10 the opponents of the Assad regime are in possession of transportable rocket launchers,
00:15 including American Stinger missiles. The administration of Barack Obama denies the accusation that it arms the rebels.
00:20 Nevertheless, the Russian military wants to determine how the rebels came into possession of such powerful arsenal,
00:25 as according to the decision of OSCE, the sale and supply of rocket launching devices is strictly controlled.
00:30 Member States that support the treaty including USA have the responsibility to deal with only legitimate state governments.
AUSTRALIANS should pay a travel levy for foreign trips and higher fees for passports under a plan to offset the soaring costs of helping travellers who get into strife overseas.
A damning parliamentary report has also found Australia’s diplomats are suffering from three decades of ”chronic underfunding”, just as the Gillard government launches a new blueprint for ties to Asia.
The report finds the growing burden of consular support for tens of thousands of Australians in trouble overseas – including high-profile cases such as that of Melinda Taylor, the Australian lawyer imprisoned in Libya – is limiting the ability of diplomats to properly represent Australia.
The Foreign Affairs Department assisted around 14,500 Australians in difficulty overseas last year, including several hundred who were arrested and more than 300 who received emergency loans from the taxpayer.
AUSTRALIANS should pay a travel levy for foreign trips and higher fees for passports under a plan to offset the soaring costs of helping travellers who get into strife overseas.
Australia is an unflushed toilet populated by poofs, sheilas and jellyfish.
The moment you leave our shores you waive all access to assistance is my opinion. Don’t like it? Stay the fuck home and hide behind the couch.
For what its worth, I would rather ‘ignore’ Trolls etc, or Leftist provocateurs, banning them makes me uncomfortable – I always like to know something of what they think and exactly where they are coming from.
In the cold light of day I agree with you, it’s just that I get sick and tired of interesting discussion being derailed by the usual suspects.
Also, it’s not that I disagree with them that is the issue.
I mean, I find myself disagreeing with Jarrah quite often, but in the main he argues his point with skill.
There is a massive difference between the likes of Jarrah and fuckwit SfB who just keeps on and on and on with the same irrelevant bullshit every single day.
I am not a massive commenter here as I believe in not opening my trap unless I have something to contribute to the conversation. I am also no great economist, however I enjoy visiting here regularly, not just for entertainment but to learn a little as well.
I am not too proud to admit to learning from the likes of Jarrah, but God forbid, the day that SfB contributes something that is worthwhile learning is the day that I will just give up.
Nah, what am I talking about? That day will never, ever come.
Tony Abbott is floundering in an olde world game of regular politics. The new unethical game is passing him by and he had better quickly learn the new rules of this politics of bastardry or we will all lose out.
This decadent mob won’t be beaten with gentlemanly platitudes and weak apologies. Abbott needs to get on the front foot, grab the agenda, forget his opponent is a woman and start hitting her where it hurts.
Did someone say Australia has no money for diplomats?
We seem to have the money for new embassies in Senegal and a whopper in Jakarta.
Somewhere for {unelected} Bob Carr and his wifey to do our bidding no doubt.
There is a massive difference between the likes of Jarrah and fuckwit SfB who just keeps on and on and on with the same irrelevant bullshit every single day.
Dogshit’s only purpose in coming here is to pick fights. He is the archetypal definition of a troll. Doomlord kills trolls for exactly that reason. But dogshit is untouchable; apparently he is Doomlord’s deformed, retarded, unemployed offspring and DL just can’t bring himself to do it because the idiot child has no other life and needs the money.
The problem is not primarily with the trolls but with the Cats who can’t resist feeding them, as much ‘fun’ as that might be. I guarantee that they would go elsewhere if totally ignored.
There’s a difference between trolls (whose purpose is to harrass, disrupt, and generally make a nuisance) and contrarians (e.g., people who love Greens policies and think the ABC is too right wing).
I love a good argument, and frankly a lot of the time,a lively debate gets triggered because some leftwinger turned up, guns blazing.
This is not only going to be an avalanche, it’s going to be an avalanche that takes half the country by surprise. A recent poll found that a whopping 92 percent of Obama supporters believe Obama will win.
I actually wish there were more skillful leftwingers here and more Jarrah’s. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this forum should be a cauldron of ideas and they should each be tested to their limits. I don’t want to be told I’m right I want to know I’m right
Hey people, Steve from Brisbane is OK. It is good for a laugh. For example, I was under the pump today, and cursing, but Steve’s fantastic (in the dictionary sense) confidence in the stuff he was cut-and-pasting about the linkage between hurricanes and extreme weather and evil Coalition voters driving SUVs (and their equivalents in other developed nations) was deadset farking hilarious. I for one thank him for the laughs.
This is not only going to be an avalanche, it’s going to be an avalanche that takes half the country by surprise. A recent poll found that a whopping 92 percent of Obama supporters believe Obama will win.
because Sinc pretty much said earlier that Steve isn’t getting banned, period.
Then a liar we must put up with then. House rule and all that.
But ffs he says he voted for Howard in every election and that the right is moving away from him!!
I don’t remember Howard going to an election on gay marriage and abortion on demand.
Ban anyone who abuses this forum! To visit a conservative forum and make annoying comments without even attempting to present a valid argument is an abuse of the forum
It’s the invulnerability that makes SfB so audacious in his trollery.
Angryirish was way better value.
As to there being some sort of admirable purity in not banning mega-annoying deadshits, I can’t see it.
Hair shirts are part of the uniform here.
Not quite – people don’t get banned until they thread wreck. People who are banned stay banned. So while it looks like a large number are getting banned it is mostly the same individuals coming back over and over.
People are pretty much on top of Sandy being a managed hurricane. I don’t know all the technical details behind controlling a hurricane, but the basic principle is to try to get some of the air between the ionosphere and the clouds to conduct a little better.
See? You don’t get folks like that around here much and when they do pop in we must cherish their contribution to humanity’s knowledge base.
Caddell warns Republican operatives and conservative activists to be wary of a late October surprise (even a November surprise) which could shift momentum toward President Obama if the public is not inoculated now.
Next conspiracy: Obama organised the Hurricane to boost his election prospects!
Once again Chris is on the ball.
ALGIERS — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton sought Algeria’s backing on Monday for an emerging international effort to push Islamic militants out of northern Mali, in a meeting here with the president of Algeria, Abdelaziz Bouteflika.
In several hours of discussions, the two sides focused on the deteriorating situation in northern Mali, which has become a sanctuary for terrorists, including militants from Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, since the national army lost control of the region after a coup in March.
…Earlier this month, the United Nations Security Council adopted a resolution underscoring its “readiness” to send an international force to evict the militants in response to a request from a Mali government.
James Taranto is always a great read at the NYT. Here he does a bit of riffing like my old favourite Cut & Paste:
Two Papers in One!
“Imagine getting a letter from the boss, telling you how to vote. Until 2010, federal law barred companies from using corporate money to endorse and campaign for political candidates–and that included urging employees to support specific politicians. . . . Election law experts did not point to any corporate efforts this year to urge employees to back Mr. Obama.”–news story, New York Times, Oct. 27
I thought Sinc kept you and Grigory around to wind up Abu. He really has a thing for you John.
Mischievous bastard!
John is one of the better contributors when it comes to ridiculing religious hokum.
But I also find his intellectual grandstanding and contempt of the Yartz amusing, especially when he throws down a statement that he rarely comes here because the intellectual levels are beneath him and then people queue up to prove to him that they are worthy.
Good times, good times.
On Grigory, I am certain Sink allows her to post here because she shuts me to tears. (The lack of any humor in Grigory’s posts is proof she is a woman. The other women here are witty, but G matches the cliche that most have no sense of humor, and no need of one per Hitchens’ famous Slate article.)
Scott Morrison delivers a blistering presser. And the finale:
MORRISON: I think these things are a function of the arrangements that are put in place in Nauru. I’m not surprised the government is having one or two problems whether it’s with Nauru or Manus Island. Remember it was this government that demonised the Nauruans for a decade. I’m not surprised that the Nauruans would want to take some money upfront from a government that has demonised them and a Prime Minister who hasn’t always proved true to her word.
QUESTION: Should we be sending people to Nauru at any cost? Is there a price cap per person that you believe is reasonable?
MORRISON: Let me tell you what it cost last time and these are not my figures, these are the figures of Senator Evans. It cost $289 million over six years. We had 1,637 or thereabouts people who went through that Pacific Solution on two locations. That’s what it cost us. Thank you.
oh for goodness’ sake, Abu. Grigory’s work is not targeted as funny most of the time. That’s on purpose. They’re statements. If you don’t like his work, fair enough, don’t click on the freaking link. You can do that surely?
I did, and realized it was shit, so stopped. Long ago.
My memory of the experience allows me to recollect how unfunny it was and make an informed comment. Your comments on your recent experiences confirm my view and so I won’t be revisiting my decision.
But when someone mentions me in connection to Grigory, I will respond.
By the way, despite your blind spot for the G man, you are one of the wittier posters here. Irony, no?
I do hope one of the blogs owners does a bit on the attempt by Labor to excise the coast of Australia.
Yes, that Labor Party that carried on for 6 years about how they could not vote for such a plan in good conscience (yet did vote for a plan which has killed at least 1,000 people).
Nah, it is just that my interests these days have moved from politics and economics so I throw out different stuff I am exploring but most people here aren’t interested in that. That’s Ok. I’m sick of the same ol same ol though. I originally came here hoping to find people approaching political and economic issues differently but now it is mainly a rehashing of the conservative position. At my age you get tired of the same old stuff. I want to be surprised by what people are putting forward and that used to happen here. I did learn a lot for a few years when I came here but I’m not seeing anything new now. I am not interested in what has been politically and economically because it think so much of that is done. We need complete transformations of political and economic structures and that is what needs much more exploration, not wasting our time pointing out that those people over there are evil and stupid; that theme has become too predominant here. I will treat with contempt.
Interesting City Journal piece on how the Jews in the US deluded themselves into thinking FDR was their champion:
From the start, FDR failed to take action on behalf of Germany’s, and then Europe’s, imperiled Jews, rigorously enforcing immigration quotas formulated in earlier, safer times. As late as three months prior to the outbreak of war in Europe, the Roosevelt administration opposed the Wagner-Rogers Bill, which would have admitted to the United States 20,000 German-Jewish children (likely including Anne Frank and her sister) outside of the quota system.
That Dem ad by Michael Moore was probably focussed grouped in an alternate universe to the one I live in. That was offensive to me and other people who are caring for the elderly.
That might be another ‘own goal’ from the Democrat camp.
A few more favourable Newspolls for Labor and it’s all over red rover for the Coalition.
What people are seeing is policies for NDIS, dentist scheme, education improvements etc etc. They don’t see there’s no money and increasing debt, and don’t see restriction of freedom of the media, or increasing welfare burden.
The Coaliton have disappeared somewhere in a puff of smoke.
Well I disagree with Candy. People vote on things that directly affect them not on whether Abbott is a misogynist. Gillard has used the wrong tactic. It is a short term tactic at best and should have been saved for the next election. People care about their power bill, cost of living, petrol prices, taxes, jobs. That is what will determine their vote.
Another thing. Who bases their vote on a news poll? No one. Be suspicious. If that news poll were correct Gillard would have called an election. Essential didn’t move and neither did Nielson.
Diane, I tend to agree. Now that the ALP have trotted out the misogyny line, what else do they have? If they go with it again I would expect the push back to be fierce. Not from Abbott, but from the women who surround him.
The opposition have so much ammunition on this bunch of scumbags (I’ve never said that about any government federally before) that they’ll never run out of material.
Im not talking polls.tbh is correct re the ammo that the libs have and the old time oppositions would have had blood on the floor with what they have…but its not happening.
Intelligent people use more drugs generally. Intelligence makes people susceptible to drug use; though not drug abuse. A recent news release claimed that even mild drinking slows the growth of new neurons. As it turns out this effect on neurogenesis was noted nearly a decade ago. The last thing an aging brain needs is reduced neurogenesis. There are now some studies showing that contrary to the old fashioned notion that cognitive decline is inevitable with age some people do demonstrate remarkable preservation of cognition. Even more strangely, some of these people can have very high loads of amyloid, the protein which is implicated in dementias.
Come on! Who can possibly believe the 50/50 story? just not possible!
That sort of figure would have us believe hundreds of thousands of people changed their minds, basically overnight, and suddenly discovered Labor were really OK after all.
I’m sticking with Essential Medias poll which shows Labor lost a point and are now at 46 with LNP on 54.
Funny little 44 second video demonstrating how to yell at kids.
Kids don’t know what to do when confronted with real shock and awe
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The Coalition need to throw out a few TV ads early, like they did to Kevin (aka Kevin O’lemon).
A simple ad which shows Liberals in power with budget deficits / Cth debt per year, then Labor.
Though this video takes 7 min (too long), this is the type of video the Libs should make. Hold out Gillard & Swan’s promises in words and highlight the failure.
Is it me or is the fact that John singleton’s property was burnt down and NSW police said it was a “suspicious fire” ringing any bells?
So John Singleton owns 2GB radio station. A lynch mob, lead by some nice union activist types set up “Destroy the Joint” and some rather nasty types think it is cool to attack businesses that advertise on 2GB in an attempt to shut Alan Jones up.
And then Singleton’s property is burnt down?
Destroy the Joint?
(As an aside, I commented on Destroy the Joint FB, merely pointing out that Gillard had put feminism back 20 years by her using it as a battering ram. I was blocked of course, but then within a few hours my Facebook Page with 6000 was strangely de-activated and now I cannot use it. That is what they do to anyone who makes a statement they don’t like. steve from brisbane and others should count themselves very lucky that the Cat and other similar sites are far more tolerant of dissent than his mates) And if anyone has any advise as to how to get my FB site back…..bastards!
Ms Hart had publicly dared the federal MP to sue her.
Asked by ABC News Online whether she regretted making the comment, Ms Hart replied: “No, I don’t.”
“I’ve also had media actually offer to pay for my legal fees if Craig Thomson wants to go ahead and sue me.”
Ms Hart, who was encouraged to contest the HSU elections by stood-down national secretary Kathy Jackson, refused to name which media company had made the offer, but said it was not Fairfax nor the Daily Telegraph.
The unfavourable polls are not about winning the election, neither are the attacks on Abbot. They are about undermining Abbots leadership by driving his approval ratings into the toilet. It’s highly unfashionable to like Abbott now.
But its’ still a secret ballot, so the 2PP will walk in, barring any disaster.
The Labor strategy clearly has been to attack Abbot in the hope that the party replaces him with Rudd-Lite, Turnbull, who they already know to be an ineffectual leader who presided over terrible polling.
So they don’t think the attacks will win them the election – that’s what all this Asian century garbage is for – the attacks are to try and get the opposition leader replaced.
here are now some studies showing that contrary to the old fashioned notion that cognitive decline is inevitable with age some people do demonstrate remarkable preservation of cognition.
My grandmother lived to 100 and had remarkable clarity and recall right up until the end. She could tell you every single child, grandchild and great-grandchilds name, age and birthday. She still did the crossword in the paper every day and could recall in great detail things that happened back in the 1920s and 30s.
Never drank a drop of alcohol in her entire life apparently.
steve from brisbane and others should count themselves very lucky that the Cat and other similar sites are far more tolerant of dissent than his mates
Quoted for truth.
The internet pop-left are unapologetic fascists, not even wee little mini fascists but full blown oozing out into the real world more and more ban and silence everyone and everything fascists.
Interestingly they mostly sit to the right of full blown commies (and heap mockery on them) and are almost all 20-40 something white collar professionals.
brc,
As Abbott was elected as party leader unopposed, by definition any change in party support for the leader can only be in a downwards direction. IF this occurs watch the msm beat it up into a frankenstorm.
More likely however, is for the Oz to ditch Newspoll as a reliable gauge. Newspoll rallied to the “cause” during the Rudd challenge in February, delivering Gillard a handy rogue poll. Their polls have been erratic ever since.
Labor has to go. But I saw the strangest thing earlier tonight on The Drum, caught flipping through channels. One complained about Abbott being aggressive and then Reith popped up and asked about Gillard’s infamous speech which was aggressive. The response: not aggressive, forthright. Bloody hell! Someone contact the Macquarie Dictionary.
A house belonging to the owner of radio station 2GB got burned to the ground.
The fact that an anti-2GB website is called Destroy the Joint is an unfortunate and regrettable coincidence. I’m sure they weren’t encouraging anyone to actually “destroy the joint” with their choice of name. Please draw no conclusions.
hey are about undermining Abbots leadership by driving his approval ratings into the toilet. It’s highly unfashionable to like Abbott now.
Replacing Abbott who still commands a 30%+ personal approval rating despite the never before seen smear campaign against him with Turnbull who had a historically low 14% approval rating despite in comparison being loved up by the media would be so stupid, so insanely ridiculous that I’d almost consider voting for Gillard just to punish the dumbshit Liberals if they ever did such a thing.
Fortunately nobody outside of Labor is that stupid and Abbott being in “trouble” is a fake rumour pushed by ALP luvvies and Turnbull himself.
I have spent more years of my life in Australia than I have in America, at this point. My vocab/speech patterns tend to be a bit hybridized. Yay for multiculturalism
Tom
Naaah.
Its generalised that Queenslanders say aye at the end of most sentences. I’ve lived here for 20 years and I don’t think that’s quite right, aye.
A Malaysian PhD student at work has children who all now talk like Aussies.
We joked the other day that noone at home would be able to understand them when they got home. She said they’ve picked up some Australian things, manners, which won’t fit in at home!
I love Vietnamese folks. Bring em in by the boatload, I say. Most Christians, they start off doing shit jobs and own their own homes and flash cars in half a generation. They dress well, their children are obedient, they respect their elders, they hate government and their women are pretty.
The thing with Abbott is that the more I know about him, the more I like about him. The guy is actually remarkable in terms of what he’s achieved personally in his life. I can’t actually think of anyone else in Parliament that even comes close.
During the last election the public really warmed to the guy when he was given more of a chance to open up. The exact opposite happened with Gillard, I still remember that first town hall debate where she got people to raise their hands like school kids while Abbott was cheered when he said he “wanted to be on the same level with the people”.
A Malaysian PhD student at work has children who all now talk like Aussies.
Same sort of thing with the kids of a Chinese engineer I knew in Rocket City. The youngest girl especially spoke English with the cutest Southern accent.
Well Jeremiah, Gillard’s conversion to John Howard’s EXACT border policy is certainly the time to go hard against the Lying Rodent. That would resonate with the public – who have always been in on the ‘joke’ of Labor claiming they knew better than Howard. Abbott needs to DEMAND that Gillard apologise for what she has done, being party to a negligence that has caused 1000 deaths and the bleeding of billions of dollars. He needs to GET ANGRY in making this demand and pursue it for longer than a news cycle. He should call Gillard a COWARD for trashing Howard and for not saying sorry.
When former prime minister John Howard attempted to do the same in 2006, current Labor ministers lined up to attack it as crazy, racist and offensive.
Kate Ellis called it “sheer lunacy,” Simon Crean labelled it “shameful and xenophobic”, Anthony Albanese said it was “fundamentally abhorrent” and Tony Burke described it as “offensive to our decency”. Yet those MPs and even some from Labor’s Left faction backed the legislation in caucus yesterday after just two questions on whether Australia was complying with international obligations.
Immigration Minister Chris Bowen claimed in 2006 the bill, which failed after three Liberal MPs crossed the floor, meant “Australia turned its back on the refugee convention”.
Yesterday he said: “This is the only responsible thing to do to save lives.”
TA’s major problem is that he looks and sounds like someone who is desperate not to make mistakes. As a result, he’s making mistakes because he doesn’t trust himself. He needs to relax a little — easier said than done when the fuckwit MSM are socialists who hate his guts.
With Gillard and her enablers in their full shrieking-harpy misandric mode, any full-bottle attack on her is not a hill Tony Abbott should choose to fight and die on. Let him wait for it to cool down a bit, at least until the US election fuss is over.
With any luck, Romney will win and Gillard will be forced to deal with the only man on earth who is (in ALP eyes) worse than Abbott. With any luck, that will cause some major brain detonations in Labor/Greens land and cause their standing in the general community to drop even lower. At this stage, they are doing a nice job destroying themselves and are potentially about to do an even better one; Abbott should leave them to it.
The thing with Abbott is that the more I know about him, the more I like about him.
As a person Abbott must be held in high regard. The problem for him is as I highlighted in my earlier post, it is too easy to paint a man, particularly an athletic one like Abbott, as being “aggressive”. The example from The Drum illustrates how the media can control the perceptions. Abbott and the coalition need to be aggressive not only with the ALP but moreso with the media in general. They need to pluck the chooks but instead they feed the chooks with those silly media appearances and sound bytes. The coalition needs to show some courage, come out against the cheapening of political debate instead of promoting it. Perhaps I am expecting too much from the Australian public but one big reason I am sick of politics is because it has shifted so far from reasoned debate and analysis. The problem is not unique to Australia but that is no excuse. My heuristic here is very simple: the best progress in ideas occurs when participants submit to certain standards of behavior and debate. That is why I avoid a lot of political debate, it has become debased and I don’t want to feed that.
If Abbott’s behavior over the last few months is any indication I think he has been advised to tone down the aggression. But he has not filled that void.
Agree C.L. their boats policy is the greatest “I told you so” event in recent political history and should be used as a cudgel to beat over the heads of every Labor politician that had anything to do with it!
My only concern is that the public only has so much stomach for triumphalism. I remember one of the tricks that Bruce Hawker pulled during the 07 election was to drive a truck around with Howards picture and the line “Australians have never had it so good” apparently the truck had all kinds of crap thrown at it during its rounds.
Remember that the key to Howards success was that he was seen as the wise elderly statesman, a safe pair of hands and a cool head. The Coalition need to emulate that again.
Tom
I was truly shocked when I saw it leading the news bulletin!!
They said that something that was totally unacceptable to them six years ago was suddenly acceptable and had a go, that’s why I was shocked.
Agree with you on that Dead Soul, I think the Coalition need to rise above the ruckus somehow but still deliver the punches. It is admittedly a very difficult balancing act. I think Morisson gets the balance quite right in most cases, I even suspect that he commands quite a bit of respect from Labor, they don’t seem to go in as hard on him as the others.
I see I have been mentioned in dispatches quite a lot in my absence tonight (for reasons involving candles, priests and lamingtons).
It’s been an odd day of unusual, if temporary, alliances: RL to my defence this morning; the competition between me and Abu as to who finds Gigory the most intensely annoying and weird contributor this side of the moon; IT coming yet again to my defence against the relatively recent horde of ban seeking, anger management escapees from Bolt’s blog despite the really long personality assessment.
One day, I’ll be satisfied that someone here has been genuinely converted to climate change action by virtue of my persistent efforts, and then I may go. Or alternatively, he or she will join with me in double effort to make more conversions. Hard to say what would happen…
The term “cargo cult” springs to mind when I look at the ALP’s current asylum seeker policy.
The ALP sees that its current policy isn’t working, but is aware that there used to be in place a policy which did work.
So, they seem to be trying things which look like what the old Coalition policy used to be, in the hope of recreating the success. So, we get the Nauru reopening, ’cause that’s what Howard did. And now the territory excise, ’cause Howard did that, too.
But there appears to be no understanding of why these policies worked, and they are implemented in a haphazard way that is doomed to failure.
Cargo cult. It may look like Howard’s policy, but it’s not going to work like Howard’s policy.
So here’s the tip for Bowen: it was the TPV’s. Everything else was an add-on. The main thing was the TPV’s.
DS, you’ve nailed it in terms of the cheapening of political debate in this country. I won’t talk politics in most places other than the Cat because. And most of the time not even here.
I never was a fan of Abbott, but I have to say that I’ve warmed to him a lot more in the last year or two.
Note above the morally hefty abuse words they used against Howard.
I can’t remember CL but my impression was that Howard’s response was more in line with Jeremiah’s description of his behavior. If people want a display of strength then consider that not biting back but staying on subject,. talking about policy and not demonising the other is a better strategy. While that may not work in the short term it sure as hell impresses people over the long term. It would also completely undercut a primary strategy of the ALP because if you keep shouting and your opponent stays cool guess who looks the fool?
I’ll be satisfied that someone here has been genuinely converted to climate change action by virtue of my persistent efforts, and then I may go.
Dude I accept AGW what I don’t accept is the proposed solutions. I’m quite happy to side with the series of papers published by the Royal Society(2007?) which argued that geoengineering is the only plausible approach. I won’t raise the issue here because this forum already has a consensus that AGW is a vast conspiracy. Got better things to do than knock against brick walls.
Dude I accept AGW what I don’t accept is the proposed solutions.
You seem to be sort-of in Bjorn Lomborg’s camp. I’ve got a lot of time for the man, because despite his warmist position he’s all for doing things that will actually make a huge difference (in lives saved and poverty averted) at reasonable cost, rather than blow huge sums of money on feel-good stuff that will do almost fuck-all better at ten times the cost.
Yes, he’s an AGW proponent, but he’s calling governments like Australia’s on their bullshit. I can live with guys like that.
One day, I’ll be satisfied that someone here has been genuinely converted to climate change action
double effort to make more conversions
You are no different – and no less annoying – than any other happy-clapping proselytizing evangelical religious zealot, desperately devoting all your waking hours to the conversion of souls to your faith.
You see your life’s calling as making your pious and pure; others see you as an abject loud-talking self-agrandizing wanker.
perturbed, put me more or less in the Lomborg camp too. He understands cost/benefit and has decided that alleviating poverty and promoting prosperity is a good way to also protect the environment. I’m in agreement with that.
SfB: If you were a proselytizing evangelical Southern Pentecostal spending all your waking hours on blogs devoted to secular atheism, franctically trying to convert the ‘lost souls’ therein, you would be fighting no less of a losing battle and you would earn no less contempt from the participants in the blog converstions you were injecting yourself into.
Bjorn Lomberg’s measures are not in favour of the UN and Socialist governments because they can’t use his arguments to bring in re-distributive CO2 “taxes” to further their Agenda 21. There’s nothing in it for the carpetbaggers, big statists and UN bureaucrats.
I have a rather calloused heel, and trod on a kid’s toy some time back… it hurt, and caused some damage to the calloused skin, but I didn’t think much of it after a few days, but it seems it was still there.
Anyway, now it’s a split heel that’s more of a CREVASSE. Hard to heal a hardened heel
Fleeced, this product works wonders. Use s directed, if you can bear to wear socks to bed, put them on after rubbing in the product. An alternative is plain old sorbolene cream, but not as good.
Washingon Post Obama pom-pom zombie, Richard Cohen, writes an extraordinary denunication of Barack Obama, saying he is a narcissistic, insincere, vapid “totem” and amoral robot who doesn’t care about anyone and doesn’t believe in anything.
Never heard of it. Google results suggest vaseline is just as good as any of these fancy creams… though alas, it still requires wearing socks to bed (Argh!)
It’s also not enough without shaving back the skin. Yuk!
Clean the area. Apply an antiseptic ointment (Dettol cream), put a sticking plaster strip along its length, closing the slit tight (faux stitches). Then stick some cotton stuff or cotton balls over the top and wrap that around your heel/ankle as a shock absorber.
One day, I’ll be satisfied that someone here has been genuinely converted to climate change action by virtue of my persistent efforts, and then I may go
Er, Mr Steve from Brisbane, that is a sad, intelectually difficult and pointless ambition. Common sense beats persistence every time.
GALLUP: OBAMA’S EARLY VOTE LEAD DROPS 22-POINTS FROM 2008…
And the equally amazing:
EVEN NPR
A new National Public Radio poll, which had President Obama leading Mitt Romney 51 percent to 44 percent four weeks ago, now has Mitt Romney on top, 48 percent to 47 percent, with the Republican benefiting from his debate performances.
I never heard of it either until I saw a pod who recommended it. It worked well. But you ought to get it checked in case there’s something else going on such as a fungal infection.
put a sticking plaster strip along its length, closing the slit tight (faux stitches)
You mean butterfly stitches? (At least I think that’s what they’re called) Those funny bandaids for pulling skin together?
I thought of that first, but it’s in the most awkward place on the heel – they wouldn’t hold – and also the most calloused… it’s a pretty deep, dry slit.
Yeah, no. I was thinking of a sticking plaster – tough stuff, applied straight over the (cleaned) crevice, then overlaid with my ACME cotton ball shock absorber with its own dedicated wrap.
Also, no matter what Gab says, DO NOT wears socks to bed. You will lose your man card, and a man card once lost is nigh on impossible to regain (just ask Steve…). After you treat & slather the wound with cream, cover it with two or three sterile gauze pads and wrap with an ace bandage to keep everything in place.
Just never, EVER wear socks to bed. That way lies terminal pussification.
Doctors everywhere on this blog but they’re MIA when needed. They don’t want to be sued, Fleeced, you see. Very cagey in Good Samaritan situations, they are.
Chris Christie has confirmed to me that’s he’s an idiotic prima donna. Trashing the mayor of Atlantic City because he wouldn’t evacuate the entire city.
After every natural disaster that occurs these days, we do two things. First, we guffaw or shake our heads in stern disapproval at those religious freaks who blame said disaster on mankind’s sin. And second, we nod in vigorous agreement with those eco-experts who blame said disaster on man-made climate change.
And yet, the impulse behind both forms of finger-pointing, behind both the Bible basher’s harebrained claims that deviant people brought this disaster upon mankind and the environmentalist’s insistence that the disaster is actually the fault of industry and pollution, is the same – it’s about doing that very Medieval thing of finding someone or something to blame for scary natural occurrences.
Yes, well, there is almost universal agreement among experts that this was an unusually late and large storm that had elements to it that were affected by changes inter alia to the Arctic ice, so these are some factual elements to consider before reading O’Neill’s crypto-communist diatribe.
First, we guffaw or shake our heads in stern disapproval at those religious freaks who blame said disaster on mankind’s sin. And second, we nod in vigorous agreement with those eco-experts who blame said disaster on man-made climate change.
Meteorologist interviewed on Al Jazeera News said Galveston Storm in 1900 and Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were much larger than Storm Sandy and caused far greater damage and loss of life.
Galveston was a category 4 and caused more than 6000 deaths. Katrina was a category 5 (made second landfall as category 3) and caused more than 1800 deaths.
No sensible doctor in their right mind makes a firm diagnosis without personally examining the patient. To do so is to invite disaster. And yes, lawsuits too. We might hypothesise, we might offer differentials, but our ultimate advice is the same – get thee in person to a medico and get the thing looked at.
It’s no good SfB wrapping himself in some threadbare flag of wanting to help humanity via acceptance of the mad control-freak AGW program.
He’s here as a nuisance on any subject, not to help. If he’s not also trying to boost his own blog’s numbers then why is his name linked to it?
Every time he gloats, and that,s become a daily event, it reminds me of our moderators’ inability to realise the devaluing effect of that interminable sluice of slime permeating so many threads. Loss of man card … That’s a new one, but seems appropriate to various circumstances.
But he’s going to vote for him anyway, “with regret.”
There is some interesting shit going on in youth voter land and also something I noticed with a few adults.
My kid told me … Just by the by as she was telling to make conversation.. A lot of her friends are still saying they are voting for the Kenyan on their facebook pages… But they are really intending to vote Romnster.
Reading between the lines I’m also getting that feeling too from some dems I know.
This is going to be a reall interesting election.
I never realized but for a large number of american zombies voting for the Kenyan was like a fashion statement.
And just to make something clear – I have complete contempt for the ABC and its ardent proselytising on the subject of AGW, which extends to the use of chosen lobbyists ad infinitum, and to the use of the smirking Karoly at every opportunity too. The latter has just been the subject of vivisection by Bunyip, a most deserved fate.
If anybody, and particularly SfB, thinks they can win any kudos by aligning themselves with those who in my opinion have damaged Australia, they are sadly mistaken. My disdain for AGW trolls is not just personal vendetta. I’m not just slagging him or them generally as an ad hominem. They are a danger to all of us.
The reason I’m more down on SfB than some others is the gratuitous insertion of deliberately annoying points of view on any subject, intended as vexatious and distracting, not in any ordinary argumentative context..
SteveC is similarly determined to be an unwelcome presence and goes to enormous trouble to present a contrary position on anything, but is more tied to apologies for government policy. He’s been more successful than SfB in the avoidance of open disdain, but only by a whisker. Both are easily identifiable as enemy combatants, green on blue, and should be squashed like insects. No UN ROE please.
After his meteoric ascent to the top of the American political arena in the country’s history, we are now in the midst of witnessing one of the most stunning collapses of any man ever to hold the office of President of the United States.
Over the past few weeks we have begun to see the ultimate unraveling of support for the president, with women and youth fleeing from his side. But what is even more surprising and perhaps unimaginable to the president and his faithful media cult is that he is now also losing members of his normally deemed “untouchable” base of support—poor, inner-city black Americans.
I thought this was an interesting observation from one of the black women, too:
She also explains that once a resident of the community is trained properly for employment, they have to “jump through the hoops of the unions” to get hired. She and others I spoke with claimed the unions are blatantly “discriminating against” blacks in their community, hiring only whites, Hispanics, and sometimes even illegal aliens before them.
Ruh-roh, Obama! They’re on to you and your Chicago union machine.
I never realized but for a large number of american zombies voting for the Kenyan was like a fashion statement.
You have an obtuse sense of humour, JC. Odumbo is like a Japanese toy craze that has worn off. He’s so 2008.
Good to know you’re safe. From this distance, it’s astounding and amusing that the climate guilt industry now tries to use every storm as funding leverage.
WASHINGTON – Using a Pakistani Internet Protocol and proxy server, a disposable credit card and a fake address, “Osama bin Laden” has successfully donated twice to Barack Obama’s presidential re-election campaign.
‘Time for an investigation’
Cleta Mitchell, a Republican campaign finance attorney, told WND there were many documented cases of illegal foreign contributions to the Obama campaign in 2008 that were “wholly ignored by the Federal Election Commission and the Obama Department of Justice.”
“I have been hearing the same stories from many sources during this campaign as well,” she said. “Every other campaign has safeguards against these illegal transactions – every campaign except the Obama campaign.”
Mitchell told WND it’s “abundantly clear that the Obama campaign is raising and accepting illegal contributions – and is being protected from investigation by his politicized Department of Justice.”
Cleta, when will you learn, it’s different when they do it.
JC, the news services here are being led by Odumbo, the commander in chief, burying Benghazi and milking the storm for every vote: “heart goes out”…”I will do all I can” … etc etc. I trust that ordinary Americans can see what he’s doing. On the other hand, POTUS is a revered institution in a way Australians can’t imagine. Respect for the presidency is a button an incumbent can press as required, especially in a natural disaster.
Sadly, I think we’re going to pull the pin on our bookings to fly to NYC on Saturday. We can’t raise the hotel (in Soho) at all, we spoke to its sister property in Chicago and they have no idea what’s happening there. It does not appear that power will be up and running; there is no certainty that all of the restaurant and attractions for which we have bookings will be open, so unfortunately, that is all she wrote. Wishing NYC all the best, I will get there one day!
There’s no power below 40th street. I’d be really shocked though if they weren’t up and running by Saturday.
Con Ed lost a couple of generators that serviced the downtown area, however I’m optimistic they will get the power from the grid. We’re fine and we’re on 60th street.
Its generalised that Queenslanders say aye at the end of most sentences. I’ve lived here for 20 years and I don’t think that’s quite right, aye.
It’s more of a Nth Queensland thing I think – it peters out the further you go south. I remember listening to a guy in Cairns tell a story, and every single pause, sentence, and gap was filled with ‘aye’.
Interestingly some provinces in Canada have the same thing, ay. But we don’t say ‘aboot’.
It does not appear that power will be up and running; there is no certainty that all of the restaurant and attractions for which we have bookings will be open, so unfortunately, that is all she wrote. Wishing NYC all the best, I will get there one day!
James – I would give it one more day at least before making your decision. Saturday is a long way away at this point.
NYC is a big joint. The majority didn’t go under water. They’re all about getting moving again – if the power is back on, then things will be happening, places will be open for business.
The WSJ managed to get an edition out on Sep 12, 2001. That’s the sort of thing that people in NY take pride in.
My disdain for AGW trolls is not just personal vendetta. I’m not just slagging him or them generally as an ad hominem. They are a danger to all of us.
Agreed. These disgusting commie shitheads want to enslave people, in this instance on the basis of the most extraordinarily preposterous, anti-scientific, fact and evidence free fraud in human history.
I’ve always found the psychopathology of the semenblogger quite odd.
He’s utterly loathed, incessantly ridiculed, phenomenally boring, infuriatingly sanctimonious, staggeringly stupid, an obsessive creepy pervert and completely lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever.
All this while having the utter gall to claim that he is something he clearly is not – a “Catholic Conservative”.
Another interesting fact is that the fucking moron has been posting his unhinged drivel here for many years.
What kind of masochistic, lobotomised loser would behave in this manner?
So, why do you bother, you fat, stupid, superannuated shitsack?
Everyone here with a functioning brain utterly despises you.
Crossing an international border with hostile intent is a BIG BIG deal. That is why ONLY the POTUS holds the CBA scepter. and I’m guessing he never approved CBA, at 5pm in DC, and then he never changed his mind, until he went to bed.
(The worst part of it all is going to bed while the abassador was missing, and presumed captured by Al Qaeda. He could have been getting the Nick Berg/Danny Pearl treatment, and Obama went to bed!!
He’s utterly loathed, incessantly ridiculed, phenomenally boring, infuriatingly sanctimonious, staggeringly stupid, an obsessive creepy pervert and completely lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever.
There is only one motivation that could keep him here, Rabz, and it starts with M.
Ms Hart received a threatening letter from Mr McArdle claiming her comments were defamatory. ‘’We will commence proceedings … most likely after we have achieved dismissal of the defective and wrongly based litigation that has been commenced against him.’’
Fleeced
If it’s really bad try Luca PawPaw Ointment, in the red tub.
It’s brilliant for cracked skin near fingernails and for cracked lips.
After it heals, if you have dry heels, smother them with a good moisturiser at night (rub it in well), and wear sox to bed to stop smearing goop everywhere.
We’re holding off on the decision, really we need to hear from our hotel to confirm that it is going to be operating; secondly we’re worried that the subway might still be closed; and thirdly, we’re worried that the Frick, MOMA, the Gugg et al might be closed, let alone all the restaurants we have booked. We don’t want to be on foot in NYC doing ‘disaster tourism’ in the middle of a clean-up.
We’re also supposed to be seeing ‘The Book of Mormon’ – I wasn’t greatly keen on that, because even though I admire Parker and Stone, who at least walk the walk most of the time on being ‘edgy,’ any show these days that satirises an organised religion is shooting fish in a barrel, when there is a rather large pachyderm in the room in the form of one highly organised religion that does not take kindly to being criticised.
Just as Andres Serrano is not going to do a “Piss Allah” and Madonna is not going to writhe around on stage blaspheming with various Islamic props, Parker and Stone are not going to do “The Koran: The Musical,” which to my mind makes taking the piss out of Mormonism a bit weak and predictable.
Rabz,
Both the FIFY comments went into the digital regions of space beyond the earth’s atmosphere.
Shrugged shoulders, moved on, came back and now both comments appeared.
Strange things happen in the digital ether.
Funny on so many levels Rabz. When the ABC asks her did she regret her statements and gets “No, I don’t”.
They might have well asked “have you no shame”.
As for McArdle, he obviously thinks he’s a mini-Chris Murphy bunging on the hysteria.
This is also a consequence of another invasion: NATO’s misadventure in Libya. Weapons and mercenaries came flooding to Mali after Qaddafi’s defeat. We are now reaping the consequences of that decision, ‘leading from behind’ into yet another war, even as the much more strategically vital country of Syria spirals uncontrollably toward chaos, and the radical presence there grows.
Thanks goodness the President who did all this isn’t a Republican; otherwise the media just might be upset
Again, It’s different when they do it.
The Left and their servile flattering media live in a moralistic parallel universe at odds with commonsense, ethics and decency.
FORMER health services union boss Michael Williamson has been charged with 28 new offences including cheating and defrauding the union and dealing with the proceeds of crime.
“It is a little odd that he shows up in the briefing room, where he hasn’t shown up in the briefing room for about, what — a month and a half on Libya, or for everything else for that matter? Then you get the photo-ops of him in the situation room deploying, I guess, the utility crews who will restore power all over America. Whereas you would think he might want to use the situation room and had convened high-level people during the nine hours our people were under attack in Benghazi.”
So John Singleton owns 2GB radio station. A lynch mob, lead by some nice union activist types set up “Destroy the Joint” and some rather nasty types think it is cool to attack businesses that advertise on 2GB in an attempt to shut Alan Jones up.
And then Singleton’s property is burnt down?
For a moment ignore the idea that the Destroy the Joint mob actually did the crime.
What would the Lefty Astroturf organisations & the stenographers be doing if Sarah Palin had referred to the organisation “Destroy the Joint” in a speech, then Singo’s place burned down?
You can bet the mob would be livid & calling “Destroy the Joint” hate speech and getting the Macquarie Dictionary to change definitions to assist their campaign to lynch their political opponents.
If you are still about Fleeced at 1:15am – I see you’ve had some good advice already to which I add the suggestion of a half hour morning and night soaking in salt water. It’s a panacea for many skin related things.
I know it’s inconvenient when there are work and family demands (I’m fortunate being feet away from the Broadwater and the Coral Sea as medicine) however I have found it to be both a soothing and a swift solution for several skin aberrations.
If you are close to the coast keep a watering can in your vehicle, drive by the local boat ramp, three quarter fill it and pour into a small tub to soak your feet in at home (use a cork as a stopper in the spout to avoid spillages en route).
I never realized but for a large number of american zombies voting for the Kenyan was like a fashion statement.
Hey, if you travel in fashionable lefty circles where groupthink is the norm (and sneer at bland predictable suburbia), standing out is a great way to be ostracised.
I’m not surprised that privately they are putting their economic interests ahead of vacuous fashion statements.
Con Ed lost a couple of generators that serviced the downtown area, however I’m optimistic they will get the power from the grid. We’re fine and we’re on 60th street.
JC, has anyone brought up the old “broken windows theory” about how this will kick start the economy?
I can see econo-retards like the DNC jumping at that idea in their attempt to deflect attention.
Arguing to keep the trolls here after they’ve had more than a fair run, is a bit like arguing to preserve North Korea in it’s current state, as a warning to the rest of the world of communism’s penultimate destination. Wouldn’t wish that kind of misery on anyone.
I have to say dd, that I’ve not detected that many arguments from the trolls. They never come with strong positions on anything. Hence the ease with which they contradict themselves, all in the space of one thread.
>JC, has anyone brought up the old “broken windows theory” about how this will kick start the economy?
To a certain extent, disasters can kick things along by unlocking insurance policy savings and putting them to work. This is not a borrow-from-the-future issue like borrow-and-spend, but a borrow-from-the-past in terms of liquidate-savings-and-spend.
Fixing disaster damage can also result in better infrastructure, which can have long term benefits as well.
So while (obviously) breaking the windows is not a strategy you want to undertake, the insurance aspect of things does provide some injection of funds and activity. Assuming all of the insurance money was not fully invested in productive uses elsewhere, of course, which, in my experience of insurance investment, is a fair assumption.
If it’s really bad try Luca PawPaw Ointment, in the red tub.
It’s brilliant for cracked skin near fingernails and for cracked lips.
That stuff is ‘da bomb’. It works for every type of skin irritation no matter how sensitive the skin (read nappy rash on babies through to healing cuts & burns on adults).
Token, I saw some references to economic stimulus to be expected from the Sandy clean up and reconstruction yesterday. Now I remember, here.
Economists say some of the impact caused by businesses closing will be offset by reconstruction efforts, and point to catastrophic storms like Katrina, which devastated New Orleans but did not deal lasting damage to the national economy.
More level-headed commentary can be found later in the article.
Conspiracy websites, including InfoWars.com, The IntelHub and ConsfearacyNewz, have posted stories in the last few days suggesting that the Obama administration has used a covert weather manipulator known as The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) to help engineer Superstorm Sandy, according to U.S. News and World Report.
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Indeed there are so many conspiracy theories about the storm that Buzzfeed has compiled a helpful ‘best of’ guide for the uninitiated. One Facebook user opines that New York “rarely experienced these weather effects before gay marriage.” Another post proclaimed that “the liberal smug bastion of NEW YORK CITY will again be receiving a warning from God.” Most of the 25 Best Hurricane Sandy Conspiracy Theories were culled from the Fox Nation and Fox Facebook pages, according to Buzzfeed.
Most of the 25 Best Hurricane Sandy Conspiracy Theories were culled from the Fox Nation and Fox Facebook pages, according to Buzzfeed.
Steve, your utter obliviousness to the most obvious immediate rejoinders to the inanities you post is one of your most endearing traits.
There are actually 26 Best Hurricane Sandy Conspiracy Theories – the one you left out is that it was caused by conservative voters in developed nations driving SUVs and running two TVs.
SfB, if you {heart} Leftard blogs like HuffPo and LGF and John Cook’s and such so much, why the fuck don’t you spend all your waking hours there instead of here?
Smart meters are the only way to effectively price electricity. Once time of use pricing is introduced network investment that is used for 4 to 8 weeks a year but paid for 52 weeks a year will be reduced.
Expect people to jump up and down about it. Electricity is a pretty complex commodity and the power companies and government have done a very poor job of explaining it. Network companies (still many under government ownership) receive regulated return on assets and have no real incentive to reduce peak power use, they are engaged in gaming the regulator.
I thought of that first, but it’s in the most awkward place on the heel – they wouldn’t hold – and also the most calloused… it’s a pretty deep, dry slit.
Heavens, Fleeced. If it’s that bad you need to go see a podiatrist!
The State Department declined a Channel 2 Action News request for an interview. We wanted to ask why are we using tax dollars to refurbish religious buildings overseas. The State Department did send Channel Two Action News an e-mail saying that they are fighting Islamic extremism by building relationships with Islamic leaders.
Egyptian-American human rights activist Nonie Darwish told Channel 2 Action News anchor Justin Farmer that trying to buy respect in the Middle East only shows our weakness.
“This part of the world has a lot of respect for power and America is not showing its power, it’s showing its appeasement. They are laughing all the way to the bank,” said Darwish.
Because of a movie promoted by the WH et alia,
In Tripoli, Lebanon, one person was killed Friday over protests of an anti-Islamic film. Last month, at least 16 people were killed in sectarian strife in the city, more than 100 injured.
MARY-JANE DEEB: The Christian communities didn’t constitute a threat to existing regimes. So they were put, in a way, under the wings of some of those governments, because they saw them as an educated — educated minorities.
But, of course, in the case of Egypt, it was a two-sided sword, if you want. When it served the interests of the government, yes, Egypt’s government would protect the Christians.
But when the government needed to appeal to more radical Muslim feelings, then it allowed Coptic buildings, areas to be ransacked or attacked by radical Islamists.
Mosque restoration good.
Christian defense bad.
Does the et alia even realise the death and destruction they caused with the spreading of their movie gossip meme on Benghazi.
So Disney owns Star Wars, now – and are making a 7th movie… can be any worse than the prequels, I suppose – as long as Vader doesn’t break out into song.
You are right about the gaming the regulator stuff, but who set up the regulator? Take (another) bow, the Federal Government.
As for the rest of your comment, grateful if you could drop the implication that I don’t understand the electricity market. I do. And electricity demand has been dropping, so all the scare stories about blackouts due to airconditioners etc are bullshit.
If governments were less obsessed with closing down power plants and forcing useless and expensive ‘renewables’ on us, and more interested in creating an environment which supports a competitive market and investment in new plants, we would not be creeping stealthily towards a situation where our power supply will be cut at random intervals by regulatory fiat.
Hey, the courier driver who I see every day (the one who hates Julia Gillard but said a couple of months ago that she is “starting to get some runs on the board”) said today that he thinks Obama deserves to win over Romney.
Conspiracy websites, including InfoWars.com, The IntelHub and ConsfearacyNewz, have posted stories in the last few days suggesting that the Obama administration has used a covert weather manipulator known as The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) to help engineer Superstorm Sandy, according to U.S. News and World Report.
Australian ‘Climate Commissioner’ and hero of Steve, Tim Flannery:
“I think that within this century the concept of the strong Gaia will actually become physically manifest.”
“I do think that the Gaia of the ancient Greeks, where they believed the earth was effectively one whole and perfect living creature, that doesn’t exist yet, but it will exist in future.”
“This planet, this Gaia, will have acquired a brain and a nervous system. That will make it act as a living animal, as a living organism, at some sort of level.”
And electricity demand has been dropping, so all the scare stories about blackouts due to airconditioners etc are bullshit.
According to some industry dude I caught on Brisbane ABC radio last week, aggregate demand for electricity is dropping, but not demand needed for peaks, which is still growing. He claimed 25% of generator capacity is really just for the peaks during the hottest days of summer.
He might be wrong, and I missed who he was, but he sounded as if he knew what he was talking about…
Where’s the outrage from Fairfax over the change to immigration laws by labor?
Going on the TV news last night, Fairfax is leaving it to the ABC to assert outrage over the return to Howardian values and the need for a renewal of the Greens’ open borders philosophy to allow in as many illegal immigrants as are prepared to die trying*, preferably if they conform to a national security high-risk profile.
*Only two (2) out of 20,000 or so illegal immigrants in the past year have been forcefully deported.
The reason there are peaks in electricity usage is because people want to use some! We’ve all been happy to pay for that capacity in the past, so why can’t we continue to? Just get rid of the green subsidies to less-efficient power generation, give the power companies confidence to invest as they see fit and I’m sure we can all have the power we want at a reasonable price.
And I don’t want to have to modify my usage based on spot prices for electricity. The retailers can manage that (by selling me power at a rate they determine) rather than me having to look up a price before switching something on!
>He claimed 25% of generator capacity is really just for the peaks during the hottest days of summer.
So what?
I really don’t get this argument.
Most road capacity is for peak hour usage.
I assume water infrastructure capacity is designed for peak usage.
Almost all of the Fire Brigade is designed for peak usage.
FFS even shopping centre design is for peak usage.
Everyone has beds in their house designed only for peak usage. Most families could get by with one single bed if they just rationed their sleeping out properly. It’s an absurd argument. Imagine if the government put a quota on beds and urged people to use a government website to schedule their sleeping to prevent unnecessary bed overuse. That’s how stupid this whole thing is.
There was a time when people took pride in being able to supply the needs of the population.
This argument that ‘OMG the people don’t use all this stuff all the time’ is very much luddite material.
If people need GW of power over the summer, then build whatever is needed to get it to them. It’s really not that hard. Crying about it is just lame.
In the meantime, scrap all the wastage on ‘renewable’ energy that neither delivers baseload nor peak load demand reliably. That will free up plenty of capital for proper infrastructure that will deliver peak load.
Focus: Labor will attack the Coalition today over its attempt last night to block legislation to boost protections for workers whose employer goes bankrupt. The bill, which passed the House with the help of the cross-bench, will guarantee four weeks of redundancy payments for every year of service. The Coalition wanted to cap taxpayer-funding of workers’ entitlements at 16 weeks.
WhyTF should the taxpayer pay for this?! This is absurd.
Did they do that travesty in the Star Wars Christmas special?
The complete Star Wars Holiday Special can be found as a torrent as Sony Home Entertainment has forced the removal of the full horror from YouTube. Watch Bea Arthur scold Greedo! Marvel at Art Carney as a crusty old trader! See Chewbacca’s family! And hear the Princess sing!! Once you’ve seen this, you’ll never diss Episode I ever again…
Governments are doing their darndest to fulfill the prophecy of frequent blackouts. The more they fiddle the less robust the system becomes. As for smart meters – I predict they will kill people. There will of course be no accountability for this, and the sheeple will simply shrug.
I’m more convinced than ever that the betting agencies don’t know what the hell they are on about with US Election. They have the Democrats favourites to win Virginia:
WhyTF should the taxpayer pay for this?! This is absurd.
I’m not sure they are. I think the Liars party is suggesting that in a bankruptcy redundancy etc. would be guaranteed up to that amount in terms of creditor ranking.
I’m more convinced than ever that the betting agencies don’t know what the hell they are on about with US Election.
The odds are pretty skewed, but betting agencies merely adjust odds according to bets placed. I reckon it’s just the non-US folks placing ignorant bets wot done it.
I have previously wondered why old Mar’n Ferguson wouldn’t take steps the save the liar’s party. Now we know – his family has their hands in the blood right up to the elbows. Corrupt the lot of them, and if not corrupt, fully compromised by a family member.
IT, according to Rasmussen, Romney is now two points ahead in Ohio, three in Virginia, and tied in Wisconsin and Iowa. I think all five are now Romney’s. And I actually think Penn and Minnesota will go to Romney because he’ll get the vote out better there than Obama.
johanna @11.40am I have re-read my comment and am not sure where I implied you do not understand the electricity market. Can someone with a greater sense of paranoia help me out?
Falling aggregate demand doesn’t tell you anything about the change in peak demand. To the extent that aggregate demand is falling due to the closure of major industrial users, such as aluminium smelters, it doesn’t produce any real impact on network costs either.
Major electricity users with variable power requirements, such as desalination plants over in WA, should theoretically produce improved generation efficiency – unless they go and enter into major renewable off-take agreements (as they have done) which is a lose-lose, worst of all worlds result.
Someone like Uncle George (soros) is manipulating the betting markets. It’s a hunch, but I’m pretty confident about it. The way the market was dragged up looked like it was a huge Obama buyer in there and he’s one fucker evil enough to try that shit on.
Look at the liquidity. It’s about $25 million.
He’d only have to be max. 20% of that to skew the price like that.
As I mentioned earlier in the week..
Say he has $10 million riding on that..
He could say buy 100 million shares in Bank of America and he would be covered against the loss. If Romney wins banks and coal stocks will go up by at least 10%.
I might check his SEC filing later and see if there are any bank of coal stocks there, although the position may not be reported as the entire $24 billion he has is his own and I no longer think he manages client money.
Fleeced, I used to suffer from cracked heels, all from walking around bare foot. My home for the last eight years has been in gravel and rock with a bit of mud in between. So forced to wear shoes all the time. And runners and socks all day every day has cured my cracked heels.
Chris Christie Can’t Stop Praising Obama for Hurricane Sandy Efforts
It’s insurance. In a weeks time if Obama wins he’s going to need a shitload of Federal $$$’s to rebuild. He needs to suck up to the Kenyan dog molester just in case.
RCP seems to have been showing Obama ahead in Minnesota ahead by 5 to 7 points for ages…
And? So does Rasmussen. What is your point? Romney wins without Minnesota and Penn if he lands the other mentioned states. I’m suggesting that any state where Romney is up to seven points behind are in play because the Republicans will win the voter turnout, and the independents are breaking 2 to 1 to Romney.
It’s an interesting point that the specialised heal crack balms all have a large amount of urea in them.
Not sure where it’s sourced from, but I see that, as I expected, there is a site that explains how to use your own, very close to you, source of urea to treat dry skin. As the site says, though:
To many people, urine therapy is a new idea that may take some getting used to.
According to some industry dude I caught on Brisbane ABC radio last week, aggregate demand for electricity is dropping,
Terrific news, right Stepford you fuckhead. One of the principle things that distinguishes and industrial civilization from a fucking backward almost stoneage one is electricity. You’re pleased we’re using less!
You deplorable fucking evil douchebag.
Seriously, I’d pass a fucking law to stick you on a peddle pusher along with Tubbsie Milne for 12 hours per day with one 10 minute break for the rest of your miserable life feeding power into the the grid.
The odds are pretty skewed, but betting agencies merely adjust odds according to bets placed. I reckon it’s just the non-US folks placing ignorant bets wot done it.
This is more true in Betting exchanges like Betfair, where other punters cover your bets through a matching service. The bulk of the Betfair membership are UK punters who are force-fed the standard MSM/BBC model of the world. Little wonder that they have Mittens at 3.25.
JC, how was the city today? Been out for a look-see?
Fine on the upper east side, DB. Saw a few trees down and branches etc… lots of leaves..
Just got back from dinner and there wasn’t even a rustle of a tree branch. It’s as calm as anything. Still overcast though.
Everyone was out walking today. It was funny seeing all these women wearing their latest Burberry/designer gum boots and their rain/storm attire but it wasn’t raining.
Look, the serious part of the storm lasted about 5 hours or so.. at the least the worrying part.
The real damage was downtown and in the burbs as you probably know. Upper Eastside is fine, just as God willed it. As I thought, the real damage was the tidal surge and no the storm so much.
The other thing to note is that Americans are not allowed to bet on foreign betting markets. It’s the law. The only reason that the law is important is because like Swiss/offshore private bankers overseas bookies will not touch potential US clients because of the very real fear that the US government/Department of Justice will hound them for the next million years. They will not touch a Client with an American address. The risk of being caught is a knee capping. The owners of these establishments would be risking getting nabbed in a foreign country and extradited to the US to face charges.
Leaving Friday DB. That’s if the flight is going to happen. Haven’t called the airline yet. If it happens it happens, if it doesn’t I’ll stay on. No drama.
Yea Friday this week. I thought it was Sunday a while ago, but wifey confused me. Sunday is when we arrive back, not when we leave. I thought I was getting back on cup day.
I need her to sharpen up on her communication skills.
Have pulled the pin on NYC flights on Saturday. Our hotel does not have power. As far as we know, flights not going in or out. Subway closed. ConEd seems to think power to Lower M will be back on in four days, but says it wants to “manage expectations.” Bottom line is we want to enjoy NYC, not get in the way of a clean-up.
Chris Bowen: ‘You know, it’d be great if the Liberals finally supported our border policy.’
“I’ve changed the Labor Party’s position and I changed my mind, based on the evidence, based on the recommendations of the Houston panel, and based on the evidence that this will save lives,” Mr Bowen said.
“We’ll do what it takes to save lives, even if it means taking positions that we’ve opposed before, even if it means people trawling through our speeches and pointing out what we said before, because we’re determined to save lives.
“Now I actually would hope the Liberal Party would take a similar approach.”
They killed 1000 people because they hated John Howard.
If I stayed on for the election with a Romney win, it would be like attending a wake in this place (manhattan).
Fair dinkum, you could count righties here on one hand. They’re like huge version of a Q&A audience. I don’t know WTF is wrong with Manhattanites. They seem mentally incapacitated.
Focus: Labor will attack the Coalition today over its attempt last night to block legislation to boost protections for workers whose employer goes bankrupt. The bill, which passed the House with the help of the cross-bench, will guarantee four weeks of redundancy payments for every year of service. The Coalition wanted to cap taxpayer-funding of workers’ entitlements at 16 weeks
Gab, I arrive on election night. Honestly, I don’t think my beloved would appreciate me reporting the news hourly on the Cat. I will, however, provide whatever news I can while waiting in transit at LAX.
WHILE updating parliament on the Afghan campaign on Wednesday, Prime Minister Julia Gillard quoted from a poem that subverts conventional military values.
because she doesn’t have a clue and is a disgusting cur.
The backlash against Alan Jones has had zero ratings impact.
I know Macquarie Media is too savvy to provide individual details, but it would be great to hear how they are milking the yellow-backed advertisers who are begging to get back to advertising to AJ’s large and very affluent audience.
The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) to help engineer Superstorm Sandy, according to U.S. News and World Report.
Bloody HAARP. I remember arguing with someone who was positive that HAARP was being used to cause earthquakes. What can you do?
Parliament house is designed for peak usage. Did QLD apply the same logic when they abolished their upper house?
Abolish State and Local Govts and replace them with municipalities that have no more than 12 representatives. Dissolve States. We waste an incredible amount of money with stupid duplication. While we’re at it, get rid of the tourism, sport, arts, culture, EEO, HRC, “Minister for Deregulation”(what an oxymoron), climate change department, and other portfolios that serve little to no purpose.
Rich white guilt. It’s the largest conglomeration of Dr’s Wives on the planet.
I had a funny experience at a birthday party sunday night. There was a doctors wives coven in the sitting room, which was where the food and drinks were.
They got to talking politics and straight away they began hitting the GOP over da abortion and what that candidate Mourdock had said. They then suggested that Romney would remove the right to abortion.
I couldn’t take that shit anymore so I intervened. I told them that the idea Romney would make da abortion illegal was preposterous as it was a SCOTUS decision anyway. One doofus woman then started to preach to me that she owned her own body. I replied that she appeared to be too old to conceive and that even if the Romster appointed a conservative judge to the SCOTUS and Roe was overturned the issue would go back to the states…. and the idea that NY would make abortion illegal was silly.
The atmosphere could have been cut with a knife.
Wifey fulminated all the way back to the apartment. It was funny.
These fuckers get their crap from the turgid NYTimes!
Abolish State and Local Govts and replace them with municipalities that have no more than 12 representatives. Dissolve States. We waste an incredible amount of money with stupid duplication. While we’re at it, get rid of the tourism, sport, arts, culture, EEO, HRC, “Minister for Deregulation”(what an oxymoron), climate change department, and other portfolios that serve little to no purpose.
So you want to abolish states and replace them with …states?
Or subservient administrative regions of Canberra? I don’t want Victorians, Canberrans and Tasmanians affecting me in the name of “efficiency” thanks.
I like federalism, there should be more states, more duplication at a level closer to the citizenry and a federal government whose only power is a common defence force and as a place where the states can take conflicts to be resolved.
Yea, recall how it all started. Some idiot mentioned that she had read Thomas Friedman’s column in the Times that weekend… (like who doesn’t) and how smart it/he was because he mentioned the intellectual inconsistency of The Right’s position..
It went something like this..
The Right (in the US) is against abortion, but for guns and capital punishment.
They all thought it was brilliant.
I followed up with..
Well it’s a silly argument because the Left’s argument is
against capital punishment even for the most heinous crimes, against self protection and guns is a constitutional right, but yanking a kid that could survive even at late term.
So I suggested Friedman was an idiot while The Right’s argument had stronger logical merit.
The melee then went on from there.
I told them they shouldn’t read Friedman in order to preserve brain cells at middle age.
I’ll be in Canuckistan for the election. But I will be there with a couple of yankees, one of which I know to be a comitted republican supporter. Maybe I’ll suggest to him to head to the hotel bar that night to watch it unfold and live blog if I can get a working internet connection on my phone.
Or subservient administrative regions of Canberra? I don’t want Victorians, Canberrans and Tasmanians affecting me in the name of “efficiency” thanks.
They already do. More states = more govts = more waste. Federalise all laws. More states will be a massive multiplication in laws and administration which will be disastrous for business. A mountain of red tape and making corruption much easier.
>Abolish State and Local Govts and replace them with municipalities that have no more than 12 representatives. Dissolve States.
I don’t agree. The original Federal setup was quite good. The problem has been the gradual erosion of states rights and ceding of the states sovereign powers to the feds.
Abolish Fed departments, return the right for the states to set their own taxes (even if ATO collects) and re-introduce many of the benefits of Federalisation, namely, the ability for states to compete with one another, while keeping a homogenous economic entity with completely free trade including capital and labour movement across state borders.
Apropos of nothing, I have only just learned, via the web, the intended way to use a shave stick. I never really understood why it was cylindrical before.
Apropos of nothing, I have only just learned, via the web, the intended way to use a shave stick. I never really understood why it was cylindrical before.
It’s where the Brisbane river meets Moreton bay, and does so very slowly. As in it’s a marshy, swampy, mosquito ridden cesspit. You get a good view when you fly in and out of BNE if approaching/leaving over the bay.
The Port facilities are actually on the South side of the river, so ‘working Port’ isn’t something that Pinkenba can really lay claim too.
They already do. More states = more govts = more waste. Federalise all laws. More states will be a massive multiplication in laws and administration which will be disastrous for business. A mountain of red tape and making corruption much easier.
The technocratic fascist emerges again.
All that to worry about and yet somehow the US with 52 states and thousands of semi-autonomous local governments has been successful.
Bronwyn: a fine example of the modern, forward looking Liberal Party, as well as being a politician who isn’t embarrassed to treat any day as Halloween.
I’m supposed to be sending money to the ATO today. While I do this, I’m listening to Scott Morrison on the boat blowout and liar’s party hypocrisy in Parliament.
I’m very angry.
The Left are such moral morons that they don’t understand the difference between guilty life (a murderer facing the death penalty) and innocent life (a child being aborted).
This is great. Obama’s dearth of creativity and the fact he is exotic on the outside and boring on the inside would have made him perfect for diplomacy.
Absolutely pathetic questions being asked by the presstitutes of Bob Carr. Either they cannot think of what questions to ask or they are throwing Dorothy Dixers his way. Pathetic.
It’s not hard to understand why the respected Coorey would have opted to change desks the SMH is not a newspaper to work for if you are a serious political journalist. Coorey has a reputation as a hard-working news-breaking journalist and the AFR, like The Australian, is a newspaper that devotes a great deal of space to national politics and policy.
candy,
you don’t get to be president of the liar’s party without knowing where the bodies are buried. Williamson will be trading what he knows for a reduced sentence / immunity. There are going to be a lot of worried labor ‘mates’. His daughter better start looking for alternative employment.
So what’s bald idiot, Fabulous Phil going to do at the AFR, Fat boy? Run he Lying Slapper’s talking points for the day, as that’s all he did at the SMH, you dolt.
I dunno why you think that important news to be running to us with.
Are you excited? We’re not, no matter where the bald idiot ends up on that titanic taking in water.
This isn’t one of Stutch’s best appointments to say the least, Monst. He’ll end up regretting it.
In fact he could have saved a ton of money as all he needed to do was get on the ALP’s daily talking points email list and simply have a junior transcribe them.
It’s a win/win for both News and Fairfax in the short term. News gets to crow that it’s poaching journos from its main rival, and Fairfax doesn’t have to pay out severance to another veteran. It remains to be seen whether News can afford to be hiring given their other pressures.
Abolish Fed departments, return the right for the states to set their own taxes (even if ATO collects) and re-introduce many of the benefits of Federalisation, namely, the ability for states to compete with one another, while keeping a homogenous economic entity with completely free trade including capital and labour movement across state borders.
Thanks BRC. I’m trying to find ways of absolutely minimising government across the board. We need a Federal govt, that’s is just a fact. So I think we’re stuck with that. But in a highly connected an globalised economy I’m not sure we need State govts. Mind you that might reflect my being a Qlder and all the crap we’ve put up with from State govts over the decades. Once you create a power structure is takes on a life of its own so I’d rather kill the beast outright.
We have too many layers of govt and while that may have had utility 100 years ago in today’s world do we really need people “that close to the ground”? Why not have one national education standard(in the only broadest possible terms a la Finland), one set of criminal and corporate laws, one set of policing policy, one rail system(!), one body to manage roads and other infrastructure issues? Is this possible? So when I think of municipalities I’m thinking of very large geographic regions, say Brisbane to Toowoomba down to the border, with little or no legislative power, only managing local infrastructure issues. And while we’re at it, why do we need Lord Mayors and all that crap?
This isn’t one of Stutch’s best appointments to say the least, Monst. He’ll end up regretting it.
So Stutch has decided to drive away even more readers by getting La Tingle and Punxatawney Phil to provide brain-dead analysis in tandem.
Maybe after Barry told him he couldn’t refer to Gillard’s knife-work (which the Labor troll uses often) Stutch has gone Fraser-tard and decided to suck up to the brain-dead left.
Bronwyn: a fine example of the modern, forward looking Liberal Party, as well as being a politician who isn’t embarrassed to treat any day as Halloween.
See how it works?
Yesterday: “Tony Abbott is a misogynist, he has a problem with women, he’s not fit to lead in the 21st century!”
Today “lolz look at bronwyn bishop she’s old and looks like a witch lolz!”
“Add to that her brother used HSU funds to buy and fit out a recording studio out west and her father had a magic gold AMEX.”
They seem like that Thomson to have no idea that other people’s money is not theirs. Living off the hard work of their members paying union dues. Disgusting immoral bunch.
Further evidence that the people who run newspapers are hastening their own demise. I wonder if this happened to the candlestick makers as well? “Aye tha’ Jimmy. Now he makes a good candle.”
I see News hasn’t allowed Our Jessica to grace the pages of The Australian. She seems to be confined to the outposts of thought, namely the Courier Mail and Mr Kate Ellis’s online dumping ground.
Why would a supposed business and financial journal (hint – see its title) employ a lobotomised leftist loser with no knowledge of either business or finance, such as phil ‘bonehead’ coorey?
Oh wait – because it’s frigging fauxfacts, that’s why.
“Bishop going after the Rodent over the slush fund again.
She won’t answer.
A Lib just thrown out for yelling “crook” or something.
She’s blaming Abbott for being “offensive.”
Does anyone keep count of the number of Opposition members being chucked out the house, as opposed to the Government benches?
Of course I understand that the ALP are very classy, truthful and decent upright citizens who wouldn’t dream of interjecting or, God forbid, shouting out across the floor, but maybe it has happened once or twice? And of course the Speaker would have no choice but to chuck out those foul-mouthed Liberal misogynists who dare to ask about union corruption. Especially if she can sense a motion coming on.
Coorey has a reputation as a hard-working news-breaking journalist…
Ahahahahaha.
- Phil arrives at work.
- *ring ring*
- Hello.
- Phil, Julia.
- Hey.
- Yeah, emailing you today’s anti-Abbott stuff.
- Sweet. Thanks.
- Cop ya later.
- See-ya.
- Madge, Phil. Pop down to Maccas and get me some breakfast, there’s a love.
On another forum I regularly launch into Dr. Mercola from the USA. He is making a fortune peddling nonsense and selling supplements. I despise me for it.
There does seem to be a difference between fish and fish oil, it may relate to taurine, iodine, furan fats, don’t bloody well know. Nonetheless fish oil tablets do demonstrate value in relation to some health issues. The study you cite is a meta-analysis. As a friend of mine commented recently: when I see “meta-analysis” I reach for my revolver. With good reason, tired of this statistical fundamentalism. “Controlling for variables” is often hubris because it pre -supposes we know what variables to control for.
BTW, don’t fry fish, waste of good food and destroys the nutrients, with some studies indicating it provide worse health outcomes. Oven bake.
Medical science latest: fish oil pills a load of cobblers.
They are finding that sort of thing a lot. Nutrients in isolation are often less effective or even harmful. There must be some synergistic effects that are missing. That sort of makes sense because our bodies evolved to expect nutrients in certain combinations.
Also with fish oil, it’s possible a lot of the stuff on the shelves is rancid. Polyunsaturated fats are extremely fragile. Rancid fats aren’t very good for us at all.
The best bet IMO is to eat oily fish and lower your omega 6 intake (no seed oils for a start).
Mr SWAN —Bananas! Do you know what? The Australian electorate picked that right away. They knew the Prime Minister and the Treasurer had gone bananas. It was a crooked defence, it was a shady defence and it was a sleazy defence—and it was an insult to the Australian electorate, who are being hit by rising prices across the full range of food items in the supermarket and across health and education, and they did not fall for it.
Then we had the Reserve Bank alibi. The week before last they were out there saying, ‘It’ll be the Reserve Bank’s responsibility; nothing to do with us.’ Pity about that advertising. Then of course we had the prosperity excuse. At one stage the Prime Minister and the Treasurer were out there saying, ‘They’re going up because we’re so good.’ And they expect the public to clap. They certainly were not clapping. Then we had to blame the homeowner, which of course was what he was doing to Mrs Bridgman. They picked his course there.
This government have to accept some responsibility. They were always out there claiming credit when the figures were good. They said it was their magnificent economic effort that produced a low inflation, low interest rate environment. Suddenly, when it turns into a high interest rate, high inflation environment, it has nothing to do with them at all. I think that says so much about this government. We have the worst Prime Minister in 60 years—that is what we have. And we have one of the worst Treasurers in our history. We have a Prime Minister who bequeathed to this country his record: 21 per cent interest rates. They cannot speak with any credibility on interest rates anymore. (Time expired)
Mr SWAN (3:14 PM) — Treasurer, the scandal and the stench from this affair is going to dog you for the rest of your political life, because this is a sordid, crooked, scandalous affair that goes to the heart of your integrity as Treasurer and to your suitability for high office.
[In 2003] Mr GAVAN O’CONNOR —As my Uncle Pat would say, he is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg. He couldn’t lie straight in bed. There are too many of these instances where the Prime Minister has said something to the Australian people and done something else.
The methods you cite are fine but repeated studies find oven baked is also fine. Read on …
“It appears that boiling or baking fish with low-sodium soy sauce [shoyu] and tofu is beneficial, while eating fried, salted or dried fish is not. In fact, these methods of preparation may contribute to your risk,” study author Lixin Meng said in a news release from the American Heart Association. “We did not directly compare boiled or baked fish versus fried fish, but one can tell from the [risk] ratios, boiled or baked fish is in the protective direction, but not fried fish.”
I’m somewhat skeptical that pan-fried vs baking makes that much difference… I’d need to see more to be convinced.
Heck, I’ve been eating more fish (and pan-frying it) because “they” said it was good for you. Now it isn’t? I think I’m better off just ignoring everything.
Mind you that might reflect my being a Qlder and all the crap we’ve put up with from State govts over the decades.
Being a QLDer you should recognise the need for local management right up the economic level. The last thing a place like QLD needs is people in Canberra deciding what’s good for the locals.
The further away the political power from the voter, the less the voter has a say. It’s a fact of life. I can go in and buttonhole my local councillor if need be. If the pollies have escaped to Canberra then they tend to descend into groupthink and forget their constituents.
No, you absolutely want your representative to be as local as possible. It’s bad enough for people in Cairns or Karratha to be managed by Brisbane and Perth respectively, having their tax dollars flashed around in Canberra is a disaster.
With state taxation (at income level) the federal beast gets starved, and basket cases like Tasmania get the thwack of economic reality far sooner when they go broke and need emergency loans.
The original design of the US constitution was right. The Australian constitution borrowed much of this. Both are about right, we just need to go back to that.
It’s the Federal departments which try and hoover up power and money that are the problem. A dept of education with no teachers, a dept of health with no doctors, a dept of climate change that can’t actually change the climate.
The feds should do things like aviation, defense, trade and foreign affairs. They should leave health, education, environmental planning roads and taxation to the states. For cross-border issues like the MDB then the states get together and fight it out, no federal override. Like I said the ATO can be kept as a collection agency, but states should set their own rates and receive their proceeds back from the ATO.
More state rivalry, less federal power. That’s the solution. The PM should be daily saying ‘I’m sorry, nothing I can do, talk to the premier responsible’. Instead, they currently invent schemes and departments to steal more power from the states, while keeping the premiers on as scapegoats.
You could have point there. A recent study on longevity found that happiness and purpose in life were very strong predictors. Suck on that materalists.
OK, forgive the possibly naive question, but is the Coalition using women like Bronwyn Bishop to attack Gillard so that she cannot hide behind her own skirts?
Medical science latest: fish oil pills a load of cobblers.
I can’t quite believe thats true, the Norwegians have been using cod liver oil for generations now. For a long time it was the only thing stopping them from getting severe vitamin D deficiencies and rickets. There’s a bottle of the stuff in pretty much every house.
It concerns many Australians that your ethics and your honesty are called into question when issues concerning possible involvement in embezzlement of funds and dishonesty in founding legal entities for the depositing of these funds, are brought up. It does not matter how far in the past these actions are alleged to have occurred, that they occurred and that someone involved in them may be holding Australia’s highest office is of great concern.
It’s not because you are a woman.
It’s not because the Coalition have nothing else.
It’s not because Tony AbbottAbbottAbbott is sexist.
It’s not because Tony AbbottAbbottAbbott is a misogynist.
It’s because a lack of honour, ethics and alleged involvement criminal actions put the Prime Minister in a very bad light.
Remember, a pointer to this is the dishonesty shown in many things promised or stated by the current PM.
***
I’ll also point out that Tony AbbottAbbottAbbott is only a sexist/misogynist because the ALP has nothing else to fight the opposition with.
Julie Bishop was masterful in response. Strong, independent, she wholly owned the preparation and delivery for the question she asked and she really put the other person Julia Gillard in her place.
“I ask my own questions, thank you.” As a former Managing Partner of a large law firm in Western Australia, as a professional manager who has no doubt had to deal with improper actions of employees, as an accomplished lady who has built an outstanding career, I think Julie Bishop was entitled to take some satisfaction from that moment.
The old shrieking harridan is certainly a fine one to make the charge of “nasty personal politics”.
The opposition looked useless on the news. They need to do the AWU corruption through the media. They clearly can’t prosecute it through parliament. If this is the best they can do then they need to get stuck into the govt over policy. FMD how hard is it to get into the govt v er any number of policies.
They should attack other ministers until they can sort out how to deal with the lying slapper.
Former parliamentary speaker Peter Slipper has lashed out at Coalition MPs, accusing them of abandoning their free market principles by opposing Labor’s wheat deregulation bill.
I can’t quite believe thats true, the Norwegians have been using cod liver oil for generations now.
Traditional cod liver oil is fermented. It is an entirely different thing to modern fish oil which is heat extracted. Fermented cod liver oil is more stable, they say, and there are no high temperatures involved in its production, so there should be less rancidity. It’s also more of a whole food than an isolated nutrient.
I take Green Pasture fermented cod liver / butter oil blend myself, not so much for the omega 3 but for the A, D, and K2.
Get back to me on wheat deregulation when oil prices are not determined by overseas cartels and when wheat and other agricultural products are no longer subsidised by either the EU or USA for their own producers, sometimes in roundabout ways.
Not to mention China’s blatant currency fiddle.
Video of today’s exchange wherein Julie Bishop destroys Julia Gillard.
The interjection that led to a Liberal’s ejection was not “crook” as I heard it earlier today. He actually yelled, “YOU’RE CORRUPT!”
Watch as Gillard continually asserts that Bishop the woman is not capable of wanting answers herself; watch till the end and note that the government frontbench guffaws bloke-ily when Bishop laments the insult she feels “as a woman.”
K2, thanks for that. A friend of mine sent me mountains of abstracts on how K2 is essential for preventing tissue calcification and also has some anti-inflammatory properties. The current advice for high VIT D loading and calcium is dangerous without K2 and a recent study found that those taking calcium supplements are x2 the risk for cardiac problems. I *think* kale is also a very good source of K2.
“We were very badly hit,” says Desjardins. “Eighty percent of our crops were destroyed, especially our corn, beans and bananas.”
Wow corn must be the most versatile crop on the planet. It grows in Haiti which is tropical and in dry parts of Mexico, Europe, the northern US and I don’t even know where it’s grown here but it’s definitely somewhere.
>Wow corn must be the most versatile crop on the planet.
I’ve pretty much given up on my other crops for the garden because they are so hard to get good results without a lot of attention. Corn, Pineapples and herbs are my specialty now. I’ve got rows of corn in at the moment, hopefully ready for a Christmas harvest, lots of fresh kernels on the BBQ.
Corn grows well and tastes great when picked fresh. I recommend it.
I would have thought ” Former Australian Labor Party National president 2009-10″
would trump ” Ex HSU President ” to any newspaper editor worth their salt.
Alan
So pleased you’re ahead.
Thanks for jacking up my power bill with your oversubsidised solar.
Don’t worry, the war on carbin will get Alan.
Wait until he takes the blinkers off and sees what is happening to food and council service costs as the people who are paying for his subsidised electricity pass on the costs so they can keep providing him stuff he needs.
Kale and other vegies have K1, which seems to be quite different in effect to K2. K2 seems to be the good stuff.
Yeah I’ve just spent the last half hour reading up on it. K1 has some benefits but K2 as MK-7 definitely seems better. Also worrying to note, as my friend had warned me, that Vit D. loading in the absence of Ks is dangerous. All those people taking calcium supplements and vitamin D, not to mention an entire generation living on fast foods which have near zero Ks. The Vit D\VIT A balance seems important. Also noted some studies suggesting(only that) K2s might be preventative against liver cancer.
Thanks for the heads up, I should have paid more attention to that mountain of abstracts.
LOL. No, it’s not wrinkles, but discolouration in the centre of her forehead. It could simply be poorly applied foundation. Whatever it was, she looked hideous. She looks as if she’s aged 10 years in the last month or so.
Howard took everything in his stride, the man was born for the job.
It is actually truly remarkable how he has remained the dignified elder statesman even into his retirement instead of being eaten up by the same bitterness that enveloped his predecessors.
I bet Howard goes to bed at night with a big smile on his face knowing that every time he smiles happily and contentedly in front of a camera, somewhere a lefty is gnashing his teeth.
In short, if you add up all the state polls, weighting them by the population of each state, then it turns out Obama’s ahead by two overall. But the nationwide polls of Gallup, Rasmussen etc show that Romney is ahead, on average, by 1.
Sean Trende confesses that he doesn’t know which is right. There are arguments both ways. For instance, the national polls have large samples and are done by reputable organisations with a track record. Also the national polls were more accurate than the state polls in 2008. On the other hand, state polls collectively have a much larger sample size, and have the capacity to drill down into the demographic strata.
Like savages, yes. That’s the trick. Hunter gatherers and other traditional societies don’t get the chronic diseases we do, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc.
Evolution is an ingenious designer, but at the same time it’s blind and stupid. Our bodies can’t handle a lot of the novel crap we throw at them simply because we haven’t evolved to handle it. The trick is to eat what we evolved to eat, or at least to approximate it as best we can.
It works for me anyway. I’m in robust good health and I’m pretty lean.
or for something completely different how about just eating fresh whole foods and letting nature and your body sort it out?
If you want to lose weight yes because cooking releases a lot of calories. But as a regular diet no way, cooking also releases lots of nutrients and destroys nasties.
LOL. No, it’s not wrinkles, but discolouration in the centre of her forehead.
Interesting case report: Is female patient forehead discolouration evidence of frontal lobe dysfunction?
If Romney does win, most Americans are going to be perplexed as to how it happened after being force fed bullshit polling numbers for the last 6 months.
If Romney does win, most Americans are going to be perplexed as to how it happened after being force fed bullshit polling numbers for the last 6 months.
And how will Australians – only 7% of whom are said to support Romney – react?
AAAAAHHHHH! It’ll be like 2004 all over again — get the popcorn!
As I suspected, 2010 changes to the commercial radio codes of practice (which don’t apply to the ABC) are being used by the Australian Communications and Media Authority as a politically motivated attack dog against top-rating Sydney station 2GB. ACMA earlier this month ordered “re-education” for Alan Jones over a trivial issue to do with climate change and has now ruled in favour of a troll who has been harrassing Jones and Ray Hadley. Beyond belief. Absolutely disgraceful. The latest “complaint”. Hadley’s response (click on the “ACMA” link).
I’m off to Jacksonville in a bit. Going to peruse Tim Blair’s old old blog archive from November 2004 on the way to give me a taste of what to expect next week xD
She rides into the parliament
astride upon her broom
Her witch’s nose up in the air
as she surveys the Speaker’s chair
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
Blood red hair
on pallid cheeks
Black snake’s eyes
Her raucous shrieks
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
In Europe and the USA
tonight is Halloween
The time when witches ride abroad
with strange things to be seen
But in Australia sad to say
our Halloween is every day
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
The shock jock had also been referred to the watchdog for making “disparaging” comments about Prime Minister Julia Gillard but was let off the hook for those.
From Tom’s link.
So lèse majesté is basically a crime in Australia now, one which Mr Hadley should consider himself lucky to have been “let off the hook” for… this time?
If Romney does win, most Americans are going to be perplexed as to how it happened after being force fed bullshit polling numbers for the last 6 months.
The Aussie reaction – so much more isolated – will be much more frantic/enjoyable!
“There is a rumor — I want to be clear, it’s a rumor — that at least two networks have emails from the National Security Adviser’s office telling a counterterrorism group to stand down,” Gingrich said. “But they were a group in real-time trying to mobilize marines and C-130s and the fighter aircraft, and they were told explicitly by the White House stand down and do nothing. This is not a terrorist action. If that is true, and I’ve been told this by a fairly reliable U.S. senator, if that is true and comes out, I think it raises enormous questions about the president’s role…
Or will the story end up being that the media organisations put the emails in the Obama vault?
The remarkable thing about Howard is that he looks healthier now than when he was younger in the 70′s. maybe because he gave up the smokes and all those morning walks.
To spell it out, ACMA does have a theoretical hands-off role in overseeing ABC content, but has never used it, to my knowledge:
The ABC Board is required, under section 8(1)(e) of the ABC Act, to develop a code of
practice relating to its television and radio programming, and to notify this code to the
Australian Communications and Media Authority (“the ACMA”).
A complaint alleging the ABC has acted contrary to its Code of Practice in its television
or radio programming may be made to the ABC. A complainant is entitled under section
150 of the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 (Cth) (“the BSA”) to take their complaint to the
ACMA if, after 60 days, the ABC fails to respond to the complainant or the complainant
considers the ABC’s response is inadequate.
Section 150 of the BSA empowers the ACMA to investigate a complaint alleging the ABC
has, in providing a national broadcasting service, breached its Code of Practice. The ACMA
can decline to investigate the complaint under section 151 of the BSA if it is satisfied
that the complaint does not relate to the ABC Code of Practice, or that the complaint
is frivolous or vexatious or was not made in good faith.
The ACMA’s jurisdiction under sections 150-151 does not encompass the ABC’s print
content or content disseminated by the ABC over the internet or through mobile devices.
However, the ACMA has separate jurisdiction under Schedule 7 of the BSA in relation
to content hosted on websites or transmitted through mobile services where that content
is either “prohibited content”1 or “age-restricted content”2. The ACMA is empowered
under Schedule 7 to require content service providers and content hosts to remove or
prevent access to these types of content.
The ABC voluntarily complies with the Content Services Code developed by the Internet
Industry Association and registered as an industry code with the ACMA under clause
85 of Schedule 7 of the BSA. The Content Services Code does not apply to content
delivered through online or mobile services where that content has been previously
transmitted on radio or television. Except as expressly provided by the BSA, the regulatory regime established by the BSA
does not apply to the ABC: section 13(5) of the BSA, and section 79 of the ABC Act.
Newly elected Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union Victorian secretary John Setka has alleged a speech made by Mr Abbott, broadcast on Sky News in February, portrayed him as an industrial thug and gravely injured his credit and reputation…
A Supreme Court judge has previously found Mr Setka entered a Leighton construction site in 1990, punched a driver and yelled words to the effect of “I’ll get you. I know where you all live.”
Hurricanes happen. DECK happens. Cancer happens. This is a message going out to the world: please shut the fuck up with the platitudes, like “NYers are strong and will persevere through this.” Give me a fucking break.
Disasters are Fukushima, New Orleans via Katrina or Berlin after the allies got done with it.
This is a logistical mess, mostly because local governmental retards had no contingency plans to deal with this unnatural disaster. People lost things, personal items, health, and some lost their lives. But the slogans need to fucking stop, else I’m gonna direct my orbital space cannon at your back up generators, leaving you cold and haunted on Halloween.
Also, the NYSE should continue to suck 10 dicks for closing the exchange for 2 days. America equals liquidity, in stocks, bonds and currency. You can’t depend on Tom, Dick and Harry to swim to work, in order to allow global trade to commence. NASDAQ and BATS were ready to go, but the antiquated NYSE decided to suck 10 dicks instead of conduct business-first time since 1888.
A fucking shame.
Seriously the amount of bullshit expanded on this storm was incredible.
Seriously the amount of bullshit expanded on this storm was incredible.
You’re not wrong. About the same number died thanks to Gillard at Christmas Island and I don’t recall the world giving a rat’s arse.
Come to that, I don’t recall the Labor government giving a rat’s arse.
For the past few days ABC Online has had big live home page coverage of Sandy. It’s the New York angle, of course. Lefties, luvvies and journalists (BIRM) see the Big Apple as their Vatican City.
GM sees European operations breaking even mid-decade
Reuters – 4 hours ago
DETROIT (Reuters) – General Motors Co posted a surprisingly strong profit on Wednesday and said it was targeting a return to break-even levels in its European operations by mid-decade after a loss of as much as $1.8 billion in that region this year.
I’m impressed at Government Motors ability to sprint to the finish line. Aren’t you?
You know, stock markets are sometimes fully retarded. Idiots were buying stocks this morning on the basis that the clean up was going to raise GDP. This is full retard mode at the macro level. In fact it has to be the stupidest Keynesian meme since… going into debt and spending like a drunken sailor was thought to be genius stuff.
Anyways stocks are heading lower now as they ought to be.
Earlier tonight I looked up some national debt to GDP ratios and was shocked at the numbers. Lot of debt in governments JC, I can’t see the situation resolving very quickly. Actually I’m wondering if any more blips could create serious chaos; especially given the latest unemployment figures from the eurozone, and in Britain there seems to be a rising resentment against the austerity measures with still no sign of recovery.
Apparently Cameron commissioned Heseltine to prepare a report on the British economy and Heseltine has blasted the govt stating their austerity measures are wrecking the place. So I’m using the word in the way that those people are using it. I take your point though but you’ll have to contact the Macquarie people about yet another word that needs fixing.
Apparently Cameron commissioned Heseltine to prepare a report on the British economy and Heseltine has blasted the govt stating their austerity measures are wrecking the place. So I’m using the word in the way that those people are using it. I take your point though but you’ll have to contact the Macquarie people about yet another word that needs fixing. And oddly enough another insomnia night so I am reading a book “not exactly: in praise of vagueness”, Kees Van Deemter. Interesting, currently reading the sections on language.
My super fund is mamaging around 4 percent for the cash option, while the bonds option is yielding much more. Is there, however, a greater risk inherent in that, or to put it another way, are they investing in bonds in countries who might fail to pay?
If not, one really should be in bonds, since the sharemarket is just not doing much at all, and cash is pretty low.
If the CorruptMedia had its way, when polled on the question of Obama’s handling of Libya, voters would respond with. “What’s a Libya?” Unfortunately for the CorruptMedia, though, New Media now has a voice and the ability to mount an offensive in the form of a counter-narrative that has real impact. Nowhere is this more apparent than in a CBS/New York Times poll released yesterday that shows voters disapprove of Obama’s handling of Libya by a 51-38% margin.
When you consider the fact that Obama has a hard foundation of at least 47-48% of the vote, the fact that 10% of his hardcore supporters don’t approve of his (mis)handling of Libya and 3-4% outright disapprove, that’s really saying something. Especially in light of the fact that Obama’s media Palace Guards imposed an almost total blackout of the story.
Facebook Manager Andrew Noyes emailed the following to Breitbart News this morning: We wanted to follow up on the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) article published on Breitbart.com last night. I assure you that removing the image was not an act of censorship on our part. This was an error and we apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused.
Twitter still not allowing #benghazi to trend.
More pressure on commie twitter needed.
T-W-I-T-T-E-R- WILL NOT LET #BENGHAZI TREND do it’s ( #4DeadAmericans ) from here on out #tcot #p2 #tlot #Ohio #Florida #Libya
T-W-I-T-T-E-R- WILL NOT LET #BENGHAZI TREND do it’s ( #4DeadAmericans ) from here on out #tcot #p2 #tlot #Ohio #Florida #Libya
Wow, sounds serious.
I know what we can do, it is time for another post from the Libertairans suggesting a Romney = Obama and criticising his posturing over trade with China.
Of course, just ignore the self-censorship by the media insiders, lets focus on a Obama/Gillard talking points.
Iowa has joined Texas in warning international election observers of possible criminal prosecution if they violate state laws and get near polling places on Election Day.
Iowa Secretary of State Matt Schultz — like Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott last week — on Tuesday threatened Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe election observers with arrest if they came within 300 feet of a polling place’s entrance, in violation of state law. (In Texas, it’s 100 feet.)
I pray Romney asks the UN to leave NY and removes the US from the UN
“As they say in my business, I’m going to give you the whole load today,”
I repeat what I said the other day, it is likely Obama will be impeached over Libya if he wins and there is a more than tiny chance that Biden will become president in the next 2 years.
As we stripped away Obama’s yearlong campaign of vilification, all the president offered us was more servings of negative ads — ads we had already dismissed as not credible. He kept doing the same thing even as it stopped working.
The result was that the presidential race reached a tipping point. Reasonable voters saw that the voice of hope and optimism and positivism was Romney while the president was only a nitpicking, quarrelsome, negative figure. The contrast does not work in Obama’s favor.
His erosion began shortly after the conventions when Indiana (10 votes) and North Carolina (15) moved to Romney (in addition to the 179 votes that states that McCain carried cast this year).
Then, in October, Obama lost the Southern swing states of Florida (29) and Virginia (13). He also lost Colorado (10), bringing his total to 255 votes.
And now, he faces the erosion of the northern swing states: Ohio (18), New Hampshire (4) and Iowa (6). Only in the union-anchored state of Nevada (9) does Obama still cling to a lead.
In the next few days, the battle will move to Pennsylvania (20), Michigan (15), Wisconsin (10) and Minnesota (16). Ahead in Pennsylvania, tied in Michigan and Wisconsin, and slightly behind in Minnesota, these new swing states look to be the battleground.
Or will the Romney momentum grow and wash into formerly safe Democratic territory in New Jersey and Oregon?
Once everyone discovers that the emperor has no clothes (or that Obama has no argument after the negative ads stopped working), the vote shift could be of historic proportions.
In all the rapture about China and fears of the US playing power politics with the Chinese government, the emerging stories of the rampant crony capitalism in the polit-bureau seems to be ignored:
In a remarkable piece of investigative journalism last week in the New York Times, reporter David Barboza identified assets worth $2.7 billion belonging to various members of the family of Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao, including his 90-year-old mother, a retired schoolteacher named Yang Zhiyun.
“The details of how Ms. Yang, a widow, accumulated such wealth are not known, or even if she was aware of the holdings in her name,” Mr. Barboza reports. “But it happened after her son was elevated to China’s ruling elite, first in 1998 as vice prime minister and then five years later as prime minister.”
The Times report would be interesting were it about any leading Chinese official. But Mr. Wen is in a category unto himself, having spent his political career cultivating the image of a kindly old man—”Grandpa Wen”—with a humble background, a common touch, a scientific mind and an uncorrupted soul. In March he was instrumental in firing disgraced Chongqing Party chief Bo Xilai, another fabulously wealthy servant of the proletariat. The prime minister is supposed to embody the moral fiber of the Communist Party.
All this is good to know as a reminder that China, so recently extolled as the very model of technocratic know-how, turns out to be a country heavily populated at the top by rent-seekers and kleptocrats. Should that be surprising? Not if you think that nothing else can come from the lucrative crossroads where politically directed capital and politically connected individuals meet.
The article then moves onto to the kleptocrat class in the US lead by Al Gore and followed by the donors to the Obama/Biden campaign in 2008.
With muscled body Tony strides
Into the house where his enemy hides
“I hope you lefties die of shame
If you live or die it’s all the same
With my sharp policies below my belt
I’ll skin youse alive and eat your pelt”
His term as King is already rocky
‘Cos in the wings stands Lord Joe Hockey
Another aspirant to the seat
Is Malcom Turnbul cool and neat.
His Deputy so loyal and posh
Is ready to serve her fourth new boss.
Don’t worry says Tony “I’ll beat you all
And if I can’t I’ll punch a wall”.
Bravo, Alan! You’re an example for all government trolls. That took at least five minutes to put together, even if it’s not particularly witty or funny. Still, it’s a worry you have nothing else to do in the PMO on a weekday morning. You should give it a run over at The Dumb.
Thank you, Thank You, Thank You.
I’m a pensioner Tom.I did it for Viva as he has poetic tendencies. Took only a minute. No telling what I could do I if I tried.
I heard a journo on RN wittering on about the flooding in New York. He informed us that the water damage was mostly inside the buildings and that somehow “they” would have to get all the water out of where it shouldn’t be.
Rabz, I know you like poking the trolls, but keep in mind he says he’s a pensioner so he has not limits to stop him wasting your day with thread clogging trollery.
In just 80 years, the state of sculpture in America went from beautiful and exquisitely refined to ugly, klutzy and incompetent.
I don’t know whether the curators at the Oakland Museum juxtaposed these two pieces intentionally, or if it was just an accident, but either way they deftly summarized everything that went wrong with 20th century art.
How about a comment on this one? Equally as bad as mine. But as it is about Julia Gillard it is admissable. Any criticism of King Tony is not allowed. This is supposed to be a forum “A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website”. The discussion on this site seems to be restricted to plaudits for the right. Wake up to yourselves. And by the way I am a pensioner, I don’t just claim I’m something I’m not.
A Nasty Piece of Work
She rides into the parliament
astride upon her broom
Her witch’s nose up in the air
as she surveys the Speaker’s chair
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
Blood red hair
on pallid cheeks
Black snake’s eyes
Her raucous shrieks
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
In Europe and the USA
tonight is Halloween
The time when witches ride abroad
with strange things to be seen
But in Australia sad to say
our Halloween is every day
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
In other new, CL: The reverend who gave Obama’s inaugural benediction thinks all white people are going to Hell
Instapundit picks up a great angle on this:
Jim Treacher could though, and adds, “How do you lay a guilt trip on somebody who’s already damned? Hey, white folks, if you’re headed to Hell regardless, you may as well vote the way you want.”
You’ve now strayed into serious trolling territory, you fruitcake. Apparently a member of the sub-species of human who grows old without learning anything, you apparently think this site should be whatever you want it to be.
It is not your fantasy. It is not a government echo chanmber (the government has bought a number you could try). Fuck off.
The Crikey-aligned government trolls that News Limited bought are now almost as frantic as as our own Dogshit:
Comments from the Business Council and Australian Industry Group, published yesterday, look like a major headache for Tony Abbott.
Both groups, neither of which is a fan of big government, nonetheless called on the the Gillard government to rethink its expenditure cutting spree.
Fairfax papers report the BCA’s Jennifer Westcott as saying “our members are telling us that the economy could well be softer than Treasury has projected, and in these circumstances it would be reasonable to revisit the need to return to surplus in 2012-13″ and AiG’s Innes Willox as saying cuts were “already very substantial and we must now be getting close to the point where it could be self-defeating and fiscal policy could excessively slow the economy and, ironically, impede the recovery of tax revenues”.
That’s right, keep spending at the current level, or risk seriously damaging the already-softening economy…
The BCA and AiG comments are part of a global recognition that spending cuts can reduce economic output by far larger proportions that was previously accepted as economic orthodoxy.
All the business groups in Australia are fronted by spivs and moochers. Corporate Australia is a disgrace and no friend of people who believe in free enterprise, liberty and getting their freak on.
Alan, we tried to just ignore that other effort, but you’re intent on championing dodgy doggerel.
This is not an equal opportunity blog. You have plenty of other places to go if us favouring conservative, libertarian or right wing points of view are not to your taste. Given the predominantly left leaningness of our mass media, and the extension of our ABC into more and more online commentary sites, you have a smorgasbord of venues to hawk your wares, such as they be.
The BCA and AiG comments are part of a global recognition that spending cuts can reduce economic output by far larger proportions that was previously accepted as economic orthodoxy.
Taking money from future generations and giving it to the present generation of crony capitalists isn’t an economically winning strategy.
It’s like living in a dystopan nightmare where the world is run by kids still living at home.
You have plenty of other places to go if us favouring conservative, libertarian or right wing points of view are not to your taste.
Leftists – so spoiled in the the pop-left dominated mass culture think that “discussion” and “tolerance” is them talking, lecturing, and haranguing and nobody ever disagreeing with them.
The BCA and AiG comments are part of a global recognition that spending cuts can reduce economic output by far larger proportions that was previously accepted as economic orthodoxy.
There is no recognition of this. They are making shit up. The recognition runs against this.
No point going to a center left site, they are as crazy left as you are loony right.
Welcome back JC I’ve missed you.
Are your new jeans as full of self opinionated crap as I’m sure you filled your old ones during the storm.
My regards to wifey, she probably thinks as well of you as I do.
THIS photograph is proof there are road rules for some and not for others.
As new mobile phone laws come into effect today in NSW, banning motorists from touching their phones, this police officer was photographed using his phone to take a photo of the Lamborghini beside him…
When asked about the changes yesterday, the police officer taking the photo replied: “We’re exempt from that rule, mate.”
A NSW Police spokeswoman confirmed police officers were legally allowed to operate their mobile phones as long as it was to assist them in the job.
“Police officers are exempt from the laws. Nothing has changed for them,” the spokeswoman said.” The guidelines are that they are only operating their phones for work-related purposes and that can be checked.”
Latest on Drudge sex scandal thingammy says it apparently involves “powerful” senator, and that daily caller is planning late-night release.
Drudge often overhypes things, so it may not amount to much, but it amuses me to think that several senators are thinking to themselves right now, “Shit, I hope it’s not me!”
Yes I was wondering what all those medals were on Bryce, especially that large dangling one. I didn’t realise she had served in a war. Did I mention Bryce looked like a giant musk stick today?
Is it just me or do they issue a lot more VCs nowadays?
VCs are the new army recruiting ads: one a year required, I suspect. To hell with the consequences. You get that when the brass is doing its best not to offend the Greens and other America-haters.
Is it just me or do they issue a lot more VCs nowadays?
It’s a touchy question. The acts are worthy of commendation, including this latest one. However…
Rudd was heavily involved, IMO, in arranging for the first one out of Afghanistan. There does seem to be a – shall we say – PR awareness of their saleability vis-a-vis a stupid, unwinnable war. My great uncle was decorated in France in 1917 for acts of comparable – probably superior – bravery but not with a VC. There is the distinct risk of the bar being lowered.
Quentin Brice is wearing a huge gaudy gold disc amongst her decorations. I can only assume that it’s her AC. It looks like the sort of thing a third world generalissimo would wear. I wonder who designed the tasteless bauble?
Fleeced, in case you hadn’t noticed, the Presidential looking Obama, who Christie has not been able to stop praising in the last couple of days, is polling well in some key States and is expected to win by most Americans, most people betting on it, and most of the rest of the world. Except Pakistan. As with Pakistan, Catallaxy hopes Obama will lose.
And you shouldn’t be a pensioner anyway in Australia. Stop mooching off the taxpayer.
While I can still be bothered to post here JC, I understand that you are some kind of day trader that makes a living out of picking the flesh from the bones that were left after Mr. Howard trashed Aussie pensioners retirement funds when he sold them Telstra. A company that they owned anyway. Perhaps these poor people would not be entitled to a pension either.
How many votes are the coalition going to lose by not backing the deregulation of wheat sales? Maybe there is a profit in that you Cannibal.
VCs are the new army recruiting ads: one a year required, I suspect.
This is the third VC awarded for Afghanistan over the 10+ years that we’ve been there. Compared to the number of troops involves, there does seem to be a disproportionate number of medals awarded, however each engagement gets far more scrutiny than ever before. It is more likely that more medals should have been awarded in previous wars rather than that the bar is being lowered unduly.
Go to the letterbox and see if the pension cheque has arrived,
JC.
Electronic transfer old chum. Do try to keep up. No wonder you can’t make a good living from cannibalism.
Maybe you should try to get a job as a brickie’s laborer, make some real money.
Buy your wifey some nice perfume instead of treating her like a possession.
Enough of this name calling. Let’s get down to serious debate.
Is it true that Julie Bishop has false teeth?
Is it also true that Mitt Romney sleeps in magical underwear and believes that The Angel Moroni gave Mr. Smith 12 golden tablets indicating the truth, and then conveniently took them back again? A test of faith perhaps? Or maybe a confidence trick or the ravings of a lunatic.
Summarizing an Aug. 15 emergency meeting convened by the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Aug. 16 cable marked “SECRET” said that the State Department’s senior security officer, also known as the RSO, did not believe the consulate could be protected.
“RSO (Regional Security Officer) expressed concerns with the ability to defend Post in the event of a coordinated attack due to limited manpower, security measures, weapons capabilities, host nation support, and the overall size of the compound,” the cable said.
According to a review of the cable addressed to the Office of the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the Emergency Action Committee was also briefed “on the location of approximately ten Islamist militias and AQ training camps within Benghazi … these groups ran the spectrum from Islamist militias, such as the QRF Brigade and Ansar al-Sharia, to ‘Takfirist thugs.’” Each U.S. mission has a so-called Emergency Action Committee that is responsible for security measures and emergency planning.
Fox News, probably the only news agency that is consistently breaking news on this issue. The rest are AWOL (cunning stunts).
I have to admit that I don’t consider myself to be a Troll as I am seriously trying to get some debate going that is not based on the looks or personal habits of the contributors. All you lot are interested in is things like Fleeced’s rotten foot.If anybody dares to question your judgmental style, or even looks left before crossing, they are immediately ganged up on.
How an educated well, qualified man like Mr. Davidson puts up with the one sided jibes and opinions is beyond me.
Let’s get down to serious debate.
Is it true that Julie Bishop has false teeth?
Is it also true that Mitt Romney sleeps in magical underwear and believes that The Angel Moroni gave Mr. Smith 12 golden tablets indicating the truth, and then conveniently took them back again?
Now the whining hypocrite Alan says:
I have to admit that I don’t consider myself to be a Troll as I am seriously trying to get some debate going that is not based on the looks or personal habits of the contributors.
This troll I don’t recognise. I don’t recall one appearing here to be this blatantly stupid.
I have to admit that I don’t consider myself to be a Troll as I am seriously trying to get some debate going that is not based on the looks or personal habits of the contributors.
Lol
Is it true that Julie Bishop has false teeth?
Is it also true that Mitt Romney sleeps in magical underwear and believes that The Angel Moroni gave Mr. Smith 12 golden tablets indicating the truth, and then conveniently took them back again? A test of faith perhaps? Or maybe a confidence trick or the ravings of a lunatic.
How an educated well, qualified man like Mr. Davidson puts up with the one sided jibes and opinions is beyond me.
He could start by banning you, you moronic mooching self unaware douchebag.
As I said earlier.. Fuck off alan. Go check to see if the pension cheque is in the letterbox.
I love it – a pensioner complaining about markets by looking for a trader to shoot.
Well, one day his pension fund is really going to be hitting the skids, and he’ll ring up someone and cry to get out, any price, just stop the pain. On that day he’ll have a trader to thank for taking his badly-chosen investment junk off his hands. The day after he’ll start moaning about being ripped off again.
The perpetual loser will never run out of people to blame. One of lifes sureties.
If you didn’t like Telstra, old boy, nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to buy it.
I didn’t realize that Gab starred in “King Solomons Mines” as the aged crone, the soothsayer Kagool “I do not recognize this Troll”. I told you that I am Alan, a Scottish pensioner temporarily banned once for being a bit stupid, with a dislike of “New Money”.
If you want to live in a world that only runs by the rules you stipulate, perhaps a spell on a Desert Island with a band of Bikies who also have different rules may straighten you up a bit.
4pm Sheedy-Folau press conference: Be careful if Sheedy’s involved. There is ferocious competition for AFL stories, which journalists have cocked up before.
“No touching: Girl, 12, gets detention for hugging classmate at WA school
Save this story to read later
Girl, 12, given detention for hugging a classmate
No-hugs rule introdced over “excessive hugging”
Mother says rule is “absolutely ridiculous”
NSW school bans handstands, cartwheels, somersaults”
Well, one day his pension fund is really going to be hitting the skids, and he’ll ring up someone and cry to get out, any price, just stop the pain.
Sod that – alan should fight back, by either driving them mad with some of his incredibly bad poetry or clobbering them with his walking stick, whichever of the two strikes him as more efficacious.
If you want to live in a world that only runs by the rules you stipulate, perhaps a spell on a Desert Island with a band of Bikies who also have different rules may straighten you up a bit.
Charming. Really fucking charming, you disgusting mental pygmy.
look Hagus, you aren’t any good at this site. There’s no reason for you to be here.
read : anyone who did better in life than me, or who aspires to, or who knows someone who aspires to. Or anyone who has aspired to a new kitchen, really, the bourgeois fiends.
Dick Morris explains the maths of why he’s confident Romney will win well and could win in a landslide:
Whether deliberately or not, the New York Times/CBS/Quinnipiac Poll is wrong! It shows Obama carrying Ohio, Florida, and Virginia. In reality, Romney is leading in all three states and will carry them all.
No way, KaE> Bird has style, finesse, intelligence, humour and he would never ever propose a female contributor here was deserving of pack rape by a bunch of bikies, as Alan just did.
Seems like the panty wearing lefties in the UK have found the perfect way to destroy the multi-billion dollar sport they love.
Now the players have found they can put out someone in another team for half a season by falling over and crying racist, they are now esculating and accusing referees:
Speaking on talkSPORT, Poll revealed the feelings of his former colleague and said he is set to protest his innocence.
“I know he’s feeling angry because he doesn’t feel he’s done anything wrong – he’s angry and confused.
“He’s angry because he’s being accused of something he doesn’t feel he did, and confused because, in his mind, he’s done nothing wrong and yet ended up as the victim.
If what you are doing isn’t working or sending you backwards you have to change,or you wont be around to change.Golden rule of business…On that basis alone Mittens needs to win..
Sorry Gab I never meant it that way. It was a general statement.
But brighten up, as Kagool said when her followers (Cats) were terrified by the Eclipse that the was brought on them by a group of leftie explorers “It will Pass, It Will pass”
What was Bird banned for if he was such a Gentleman?
Morris closes with some throat-clearing about the two possible Republican “giveaways” (Massachusetts, Maine) and concludes that “the most likely outcome “is eight GOP takeaways and two giveaways for a net gain of six.” This is how he reads polls that have Republicans ahead in only three of 10 of the races. Morris is engaging in pure flim-flam, scam artistry that he wants to use for TV appearances and newsletter subscriptions. Why it being published anywhere else?
FFS. I don’t know why I can’t link to him but if you google Bob Krumm, he has some excellent analysis of why Intrade and the markets have it wrong:
For that, we have to look at Thursday’s ABC/Washington Post poll*. Even as this poll indicated that Mitt Romney held on to a three-point lead and sat at the magic number of 50%, it also found that among Obama’s supporters, more than 90% of those polled expected Obama to win. Among Romney’s supporters barely 70% thought that their man would prevail. It is an incongruous result when a majority expects the winning candidate to be the one with a minority of support. However, Intrade, like polling, is simply a gauge of human emotions. And those emotions are influenced by expert opinion. Far too many Democrats have faith in their experts’ opinions and enough Republicans fear that those experts are right
“The money should be spent on fixing the problem but the other thing is right now we’re fighting job and budget cuts across all of Queensland Health, so this is a distraction from our campaign,” [Beth Mohle] said
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Massive ALP incompetence. Move along. Nothing to see here.
IT, the betting markets are saying they know something the pollsters don’t as both national and swing state polls have Romney ahead or they’re reacting to the weight of money. I agree with JC’s theory that a Dumbocrat backer like Soros is manipulating the market to try to make an Obama win appear likely in order to make Mitt backers less likely to turn out. I’m waiting another day to see if I can get another point above $3.50; if it’s still $3.50 or better on Saturday, I’ll be doubling my bet for a nice little Spring carnival collect.
Slate ends a post about Dick Morris’ wild predictions with this…
As I’ve said here time and time again, ALWAYS check Steve’s links. It’s not a post by “Slate.”
It’s a post by David Weigel.
Who is David Weigel?
… an American journalist, currently working for Slate magazine and MSNBC. Weigel began appearing on MSNBC in 2009, accepting a position as a paid contributor in June 2010. From April through June 2010 he wrote a weblog for The Washington Post website focusing on the conservative and tea party movements and the Republican Party’s preparations for the 2010 midterm elections. Weigel resigned from the Post following the leak of several emails he had written on JournoList, a private “independent to left-leaning” listserv, that were critical of prominent conservative figures and the conservative movement…
He was sacked by the Washington Post for being too left-wing a wacko.
Hmm. The stench from Alan is not quite as rancid as Stalinist Les the Jew-baiting white supremacist racist kiddie. Nor is it our other Stalinist dusky-person hater THR.
But the stink of this window-licking mouth-breather is rather familiar…..
the one poll they’ve intentionally ignored is a bombshell from Gallup showing Romney winning early votes by seven points and Obama’s early vote advantage collapsing 22 points over 2008.
Gab, I think it is great how the MSM is working hard to endure complacency does not set in.
Each morning Republican voters will check the blogs for real news and compare to the skewed news from the usual suspects in the MSM with disdain and be detirmined to do something to fix their country.
Has there ever been a greater get out the vote campaign for the centre and centre-right voters?
We “own” HMAS Adelaide . . . . . I am just trying to see if it can pick me up at Williamstown before it leaves for exercises in Hawaii.
Good luck with that. HMAS Adelaide was scuttled on 13 April 2011 off Avoca on the Central Coast of NSW, and is now reported to be an excellent artificial reef. Scuba divers who frequent the site might be somewhat surprised to see her sail off to anywhere, let alone Williamstown or Hawaii.
If someone describes themselves as left-leaning, you can be sure they are a full-blown communist who thinks Stalin bottled it when he had a good thing going.
All the normal lefties try and pretend their views are mainstream.
With Oz Lotto offering $100m jackpot next week, you could cover every possibility for around 55 million dollars and still come out ahead…
Of course, you could still lose out if you end up sharing it – but if you’d done it this week, you’d have taken the then $70m jackpot for yourself, as there were no winners.
sfb should totally mortgage his wife’s house and have a tilt at it.
It’s annoying that Abbott gets slandered a misogynist in the House when gillard’s behaviour in the House is just downright bitchy.
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If that’s Tilman, which I don’t think it is, then he has forgotten how to spell his own moniker. BTW, Tilman was here earlier this week under a different moniker.
Typical Labor Democrats, they always try to rip you off.
Two women from the Dominican Republic told The Daily Caller that Democratic New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez paid them for sex earlier this year.
In interviews, the two women said they met Menendez around Easter at Casa de Campo, an expensive 7,000 acre resort in the Dominican Republic. They claimed Menendez agreed to pay them $500 for sex acts, but in the end they each received only $100.
One woman said Menendez wooed her with compliments like “beautiful” before they slept together. The other woman recounted, with apparent bitterness, receiving from an intermediary only $100 of the $500 she had been promised.
“He lies,” she said of Menendez. “He says one thing and does another.”
According to the translator’s summary, Menendez “was nice at first, but then later he did not seem to care about her.”
Can you ban Alan now, but replace him with Tillman well after the election please. Well after. If the Kenyan wins Tillman will be insufferable. And being a delicate time for the crew here he would be doubly insufferable.
Good luck with that. HMAS Adelaide was scuttled on 13 April 2011 off Avoca on the Central Coast of NSW, and is now reported to be an excellent artificial reef. Scuba divers who frequent the site might be somewhat surprised to see her sail off to anywhere, let alone Williamstown or Hawaii.
Not so fast, Septimus.
I think you will find that the latest HMAS Adelaide was launched in July 2012, in Spain. Admittedly she will not be in Australia for several months yet, but she lives…..above the waves.
Fair dinkum, how can you praise a woman’s talents and then short change her by 80% of the agreed sum. The Douchebag has been running ads here with him sitting in classrooms for the past 2 weeks I know of. He ads here in NY because it’s one big market.
Seeing the look on Romney’s face in 2016 when he has to give his pro forma endorsement of GOP nominee Chris Christie. Hahahahah. I’m chuckling already.
Romney is a serial killer? How so? Do Mormons have to kill a Christian baby as a rite of passage or something?
No but it was only in 1978 that that “Church” allowed blacks to become priests. Originally they held that blacks had the “mark of cain”. Nice to know that the the possible Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belongs to am organisation that in his youth regarded blacks as sub-human.
Yes, I couldn’t bear to be away from the Cat when my nag – he’s a dark horse with uncertain antecedents and connections – crosses the line first.
What, there’s two lefties here now! Damn it Tillman, these people are my play things, go find your own playground.
Me thinks the socialist scourge that has beset the world and Australia in particular for the last 30 odd years may be beginning to die…Goodbye to corrosive shit..
Me thinks the socialist scourge that has beset the world and Australia in particular for the last 30 odd years may be beginning to die…Goodbye to corrosive shit..
Bollocks, we corroded your brains so much all you can do rant like dementia patients who won’t take their antipsychotics.
Nice to know that the the possible Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belongs to am organisation that in his youth regarded blacks as sub-human.
Dude, that’s the current Preshizzle’s (Paco™) mob. Y’know, the ones with a senator who as a KKK grand kleagle (or something like that), the ones who opposed the US civil rights movement, formed the KKK in the first place, resolutely endorsed slavery, replaced it with a new and updated form of slavery in welfare dependency, all that stuff.
The Mormons, while a strange little cult, do at least produce good citizens unlike socialists who produce parasites and wastrels.
Al Gore snr. was a leading proponent against civil rights, voted against the Civil Rights Act 1964 and was a member of the KKK.
Nice to know that the father of an actual Vice Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belonged to an organisation that regarded blacks as sub-human.
DS, you’re making an inference that probably isn’t there. From having the “mark of Cain” to “sub-human”. I have to say, though, I know almost nothing about Mormonism.
In other words, yes it was racist of them to not allow blacks but there’s no use finger pointing at reformed organisations because before they reformed, they were un-reformed.
there’s no use finger pointing at reformed organisations because before they reformed, they were un-reformed
Quite a sensible comment.
Dude, that’s the current Preshizzle’s (Paco™) mob. Y’know, the ones with a senator who as a KKK grand kleagle (or something like that), the ones who opposed the US civil rights movement, formed the KKK in the first place, resolutely endorsed slavery, replaced it with a new and updated form of slavery in welfare dependency, all that stuff.
What a moronic comment. Starts off with an infantile “dude” and gets worse from there.
It’s only in the past 50 years that blacks have enjoyed full civil rights in the US as well as Australia and South Africa.
As unfair as people here who argue the Democrats were promoting racism long before that date? Did you ever challenge that?
DS, you’re making an inference that probably isn’t there. From having the “mark of Cain” to “sub-human”. I have to say, though, I know almost nothing about Mormonism.
They are not philosophers DB, if Mormons assert that Africans have the mark of cain I think the inferences drawn by members of the church would be fairly obvious.
BTW, I was just having some fun, on a rush to see what next stupidity emerged from Gillard and Co. And watching an interesting doco on submariners in WW2. I do think Romney is a good man.
I’m someone fed up with the modern politics. I hate the whole tribe. I AM Misanthopius.
Watching The Nation on Sky News. Peter Debnam is on. I know some of my fellow Cat fans think Fatty O’Barrell is a big disappointment, but bugger me, NSW dodged a bullet by not electing Debnam. Makes Teddy Baillieu look strong and decisive. What a damp squib.
I bet Tillman is impressed that CL has become a regular linker to Gateway Pundit – probably the most risible of wingnut bloggers in a big field.
Hoft is often pre-DRUDGE with videos – that’s why I link to him. He’s a good blogger. That’s in contrast to Steve. I once visited Steve’s blog and noticed that the commens counter was on 2. Clicking through, I discovered the two comments were both spam robots. It was the most important discussion ever seen at the blog.
Wingnut Steve also recently expressed the desire for thousands of dead people in New York so that JC would be wrong about something. He now regularly links to Charles Johnson – who was the inspiration for Anders Breivek – and sacked JournoList wacko David Weigel.
But apart from ALL of that, I wonder if Steve the ‘married’ man has any idea how homosexual he sounds when kneepadding Lord “OMG! The WTC Was Uninsured” Tillman. More so than Reggie Love.
They are not philosophers DB, if Mormons assert that Africans have the mark of cain I think the inferences drawn by members of the church would be fairly obvious.
You’re right, they’re not, DS, but neither are they scientists. The inference you’re drawing from “mark of Cain” to “sub-human” is not an inference they themselves would have drawn. The “mark of Cain” implied “being accursed”; not that they were thus sub-human, but rather all-too-human. But my little trip to Wiki shows that Smith himself ordained two black men to the priesthood and that this ban was something that occurred under Brigham Young. Even so, this never led to the segregation of congregations which seems quite important.
BTW, I was just having some fun,
Yes, but these sort of allegations shouldn’t be made lightly.
That’s in contrast to Steve. I once visited Steve’s blog and noticed that the commens counter was on 2. Clicking through, I discovered the two comments were both spam robots. It was the most important discussion ever seen at the blog.
Even spam robots try and avoid sfb’s blog, by the looks.
As unfair as people here who argue the Democrats were promoting racism long before that date? Did you ever challenge that?
Before we digress to whether I have double standards, let’s stay on the topic for a moment. Either it’s unfair or it’s not.
Probably it’s fair in the sense that you might wonder if there are still racist attitudes within the church. But even then it’s a stretch to then impute racist attitudes on Romney specifically.
Did you ever challenge that?
No, but I don’t know enough about American history to argue it one way or the other and besides, I stay clear of “call-each-other-racist” competitions.
Swanny to lecture the yanks about the economy. God I hope Romney wins and tells the retard to fuck off and never come back. No. I hope Romney refuses wins, refuses to meet him and some lowly official in the administration tells him to fuck off. Clearly his ego is out of control.
The 99th Vic Cross presented to Royal Australian Regiment corporal Daniel Keighran, and from all reports, well deserved.
That said, the 100th will be presented by Julia Gillard to a woman or Sachin Tendulkar about 4 weeks before the next election.
Who could put a stunt like that beyond her.
alan, your comment wasn’t there earlier but now it is, so it seems that you’re in moderation. (ie Sinc wanted to read your comment before approving it).
Q: But aren’t black people unwelcome in the Mormon Church,
or subjected to some kind of second-class status?
A. Not for the past twenty-five years. It is true that from the
middle of the nineteenth century until 1978, the relatively few
black people who joined the Church could not be given the
priesthood or access to temple rites.
Q: Why was that?
A. The reasons are not entirely clear, but the policy seems to
have begun officially in 1852 with an announcement by
Brigham Young, who was Church president at that time. He
made the announcement as part of deliberations by the Utah
Q: Didn’t anyone question Young’s views during all that time or
later?
A: All of Brigham Young’s successors tended to assume that
he had had a good reason for withholding the priesthood from
black members and had probably gotten the policy from
Joseph Smith. A few black members questioned the policy a
time or two, but when they did so, Church leaders reconsidered and simply reiterated it. By the time the twentieth century
arrived, no church leaders were living who could remember
when the policy had been otherwise.
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Meanwhile, the nation
as a whole had become permeated with so-called Jim Crow
laws restricting all kinds of privileges for blacks. In that environment, the Mormon restriction on priesthood seemed entirely natural.
I stay clear of “call-each-other-racist” competitions.
Steve, Morris is correct and Weigel’s wrong, and moreover, it will be only a few days before we can dissect the whole thing. I’m pretty sure this is going to be a landslide for Romney. But Tuesday could make a fool of me.
Israel Folau returns to a game where his lack of speed, spatial awareness, hand-eye co-ordination and aerobic fitness are not an issue.
Geez, if those speedy,spatially aware, co-ordinated ,fit AFL chaps were to cross over to NRL they would absolutely decimate their opponents!! Earn the biggest money and actually represent their country.
I’ll leave you to draw conclusions about why that is. The snarky comeback on the tip of your tongue is not the reason.
Same reason as me? Once we start throwing all these generalised labels at groups of people we are paving the way for a destructive instantiation of the Halo Effect. People entertain the illusion that their thinking is independent of their verbal behavior, that the causation only works from thinking to talk, that the people we associate with does not influence our “rationality”. I wish. No Spocks.
Sorry about that DD, around here you are an excellent demonstration of how verbal behavior should be exercised.
People entertain the illusion that their thinking is independent of their verbal behavior, that the causation only works from thinking to talk, that the people we associate with does not influence our “rationality”. I wish.
Loving your shortarse analyses this evening, Rabz. I also think Romney will win decisively, but I’m not game to say it out loud just yet as shit can still happen. I’m planning to put a considerably larger sum of my money where my mouth is on Saturday.
Geez, if those speedy,spatially aware, co-ordinated ,fit AFL chaps were to cross over to NRL they would absolutely decimate their opponents!! Earn the biggest money and actually represent their country.
Wonder why none have?
Maybe they want to handle and kick the football skilfully, jumpnmcar. You people rave and swoon over Thurston and Lockyer. Every AFL player has to do everything they do and more; all game every game; or they don’t get to play it.
But hey, love that biting and anal digital penetration thing you’ve got going there.
And as such they never implied by ‘mark of Cain’ that blacks were ‘sub-human’ which is illustrated by no segregation within congregations. ‘Sub-human’ is a category that really only emerges within ‘scientific’ racism.
Nice to know that the the possible Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belongs to am organisation that in his youth regarded blacks as sub-human.
Hey, fuck you, Dead Soul the Moral Supremicist.
Mitt Romney’s white Mormon father did more to advance the black civil rights cause in America than Barack Hussein Obama’s white chuckleheaded wannabe-Marxist mother did. I can show you photos of Romney marching arm in arm with black civil rights activists. Besides fucking a Kenyan (and then abandoning the spawn to be raised by her white parents in whiter-than-white Hawaii) what did “Barry” Obama’s whitebread baby-mama do?
Stick to your long-winded pop-sci posts solemnly pronouncing Wednesday that substances X and Y will give us cancer, then on Friday solemnly pronouncing that substances X and Y will fucking *cure* cancer, and leave the cheap race-baiting to the experts.
Told you DB: Halo Effect. Happens all the time. inferior race is for most people an invitation to treat people as less than human. How do you think slavery was justified?
LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie furthers this teaching:
Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions impose on them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God, and his murder of Able being a black skin. . . . Noah’s son married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. . . . the negro are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concern. . . . ” (Mormon Doctrine, 527-28; 1966 orig. ed., changed in the current ed.; emphasis added).
Joseph Smith first president, prophet, and founder of the Mormon Church:
Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218; emphasis added).
Brigham Young second President and Prophet:
Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be (ibid., 10:110; emphasis added)
Smith also taught that “Negroes” were inferior to other races:
Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race.
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I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change it?” (ibid.; emphasis added)
In some ways, I think of the US election in NRL terms.
Romney has won the minor premiership (representing the national mood and the national popular will), no doubt.
Ryan has been a triumph as a Veep pic. Best choice for 2IC since 1979/80.
Benghazi Barry and Loads Biden have been laughable.
But what of the Grand Final: election day – or, more specifically, the electoral college and the swing states?
On that, the intell is hopelessly obtuse owing to spin, methodologies, willed media vagueness etc. I think there’s a Mittmentum that might win it for RoRy but I won’t be truly shocked at a narrow win by the dog eater.
“I do not really hate Julia Gillard, although I have been fantasising about her flogged and chained like a dog to a post, naked in the blazing sun of a field covered in shattered flints, being attacked by honey badgers zorked on crystal meth while Justin Bieber songs are played at 110 decibels.”
I hate drinking coffee when people say stuff like that: it’s hard stuff to breathe.
Romney supported the American Civil Rights Movement while governor.[120] Although he belonged to a church that did not allow black people in its lay clergy, Romney’s hardscrabble background and subsequent life experiences led him to support the movement.[19] He reflected, “It was only after I got to Detroit that I got to know Negroes and began to be able to evaluate them and I began to recognize that some Negroes are better and more capable than lots of whites.”[96] During his first State of the State address in January 1963, Romney declared that “Michigan’s most urgent human rights problem is racial discrimination—in housing, public accommodations, education, administration of justice, and employment.”[121] Romney helped create the state’s first civil rights commission.[122]
A group of four middle-aged men in suits and one woman in a dress walk in the first rank of a procession of individuals down the middle of a street. Brick upper-stories of storefronts appear in the background, from middle to the right; tops of trees appear in the distance, far left. Three placards tacked onto pickets and held by two men in the second rank and one in the first rank read as follows. “I Am John A. Maxwell I Was Discriminated Against In The Pointes.” “The Freedoms We Lose May Be Your Own.” “A House Holds No Prejudice.”
The governor (shirt sleeves) walking in the first rank of an NAACP march, 600-strong, in protest of housing discrimination, June 1963[123]
When Martin Luther King, Jr. came to Detroit in June 1963 and led the 120,000-strong[124] Great March on Detroit, Romney designated the occasion Freedom March Day in Michigan, and sent state senator Stanley Thayer to march with King as his emissary, but did not attend himself because it was on Sunday.[120][125][126] Romney did participate in a much smaller march protesting housing discrimination the following Saturday in Grosse Pointe, after King had left.[120][123][124] Romney’s advocacy of civil rights brought him criticism from some in his own church;[97] in January 1964, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles member Delbert L. Stapley wrote him that a proposed civil rights bill was “vicious legislation” and telling him that “the Lord had placed the curse upon the Negro” and men should not seek its removal.[35][127] Romney refused to change his position and increased his efforts towards civil rights.[35][127] Regarding the church policy itself, Romney was among those liberal Mormons who hoped the church leadership would revise the theological interpretation that underlay it,[128] but Romney did not believe in publicly criticizing the church, subsequently saying that fellow Mormon Stewart Udall’s 1967 published denunciation of the policy “cannot serve any useful religious purpose”.[129][130]
Nice to know that the the possible Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belongs to am organisation that in his youth regarded blacks as sub-human.
Romney’s advocacy of civil rights brought him criticism from some in his own church;[97] in January 1964, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles member Delbert L. Stapley wrote him that a proposed civil rights bill was “vicious legislation” and telling him that “the Lord had placed the curse upon the Negro” and men should not seek its removal.[35][127] Romney refused to change his position and increased his efforts towards civil rights.
Gab, what’s your source? If reputable, surely that’s case closed.
In the week that saw the Gillard-linked former national president of the ALP given more charges than a Brazilian biscuit thief, Wayne Swan beclowned over the “surplus,” continued fallout from the world’s first tax that raised no money and Gillard destroyed in Parliament over her Slater & Gordon slush fund, Michelle Grattan concludes…
He has looked both bad and ineffective over his handling of the government bill to complete the deregulation of wheat exports. That they are opposing this bill is contrary to the Liberals’ economic principles. ”How many of the Liberal Party backbench intended to join the DLP?” the government taunted, harking back to Abbott’s admiration for B. A. Santamaria.
As I said last night – that whole ALP wheat “deregulation” thing? Pure realpolitik. This weeks cooked up attack as evidenced here by slobbering sycophant Gratten running the ALP line word for word. You watch – in a few weeks or a month amendments will silently be made to the bill once the media have moved on – this ALP don’t do free market.
It bothers me greatly that the ALP are pushing policy as important as this purely and only as means of damaging Tony Abbott though.
Then again I suppose there’s 1000 dead bodies floating off the coast of WA for the same reason so this is small potatoes.
Is fairfax so desperate for content that they’re elevating their dime a dozen article comments to articles? Because that little spiel reads just like a whining (usually made up) faux-righteous-indignation-overcame-the-odds-give-me-praise blog comment one reads on leftist blogs a dozen times day.
Here’s a hint Spicer: everybody thinks Newsreaders are airheaded bimbos – male and female. You’re.not.special.
Who was to blame for Penny Wong’s Senate spot? ABC1′s Q&A, Monday:
BRIAN Adamson: Penny Wong has recently been relegated to second spot on the Senate ballot in South Australia …
Kate Lundy: Well, I think the situation we’re facing at the moment, we’ve got a Government with, I think, a very strong leader but faced with just relentless negativity …
Tony Jones: So you’re feeling OK, are you, about Penny Wong being dropped to No 2 in the South Australian Senate ticket?
Lundy: No. … Part of the problem is that we do have an Opposition that is just so persistently negative.
Blame it on he who is always to blame. Tanya Plibersek, ABC1′s Lateline, October 9:
EMMA Alberici: Now that Peter Slipper has resigned do you think it was wrong for the PM to defend him so vociferously in the house today?
Plibersek: Well … I think it raises the question about the role that Tony Abbott’s playing.
Correct. Romney is so deeply autistic that he is literally incapable of determining race.
I never said he was racist, I stated he was a good man and I sincerely believe that. I can’t recall saying a bad word about Romney or Obama as persons but I probably did at some point. My issue is that when any organisation’s representatives keep throwing out statements like I sourced the behavioral consequences of that are bad, very bad.
Romney is not autistic. People have to stop playing Dr. Freud.
I know its strange DB but we do entertain contradictory ideas. We all do and it can take a lot of work to uncover that. Damn, I’m trying to reread “The Limits of Analysis”(Stanley Rosen) and he does a good job of showing how very brilliant people still end up with contradictions in their most carefully constructed arguments.
I don’t doubt that modern Mormons are decent people. Even in that South Park episode where they sent up Mormon beliefs they painted Mormon people in a very positive light. Why? Because Parker and Stone in an interview stated that they have known Mormons and found them to be very good people. I don’t really care about peoples’ beliefs that much but I care very much about their behavior. There’s another contradiction, I’m separating thought from behavior.
DD:
Regarding behavior. I am supposed to be digging up treatment options for people with anxiety or depression. Strange things emerge: one study suggested for anxiety: “Walk Tall”. For depression: smile broadly. An emerging theme in behavior studies is that of “embodied cognition”. A friend of mine stated that generally speaking overt behavior is better than covert behavior. ie. Don’t ruminate, do something! A few of my friends have been scathing of cognitive behavioral therapy because it is too much predicated on the idea that we change overt behavior by changing covert(thinking) behavior. That can help but it is not enough. These days I’m inclined to the view that there is no one optimal treatment, the therapist can try drugs, CBT, or whatever works and good therapists over time develop an intuition for that.
Regarding behavior. I am supposed to be digging up treatment options for people with anxiety or depression.
Tell them to drink coffee. Or not to drink coffee. Or to take aspirin. Or not to take aspirin. Or to take vitamins. Or not to take vitamins. Whatever the pop-sci of the day deems “correct”.
But leave the race-baiting to the experts. SRSLY. It demeans you; it demeans this blog.
BRIAN Adamson: Penny Wong has recently been relegated to second spot on the Senate ballot in South Australia …
Kate Lundy: Well, I think the situation we’re facing at the moment, we’ve got a Government with, I think, a very strong leader but faced with just relentless negativity …
Tony Jones: So you’re feeling OK, are you, about Penny Wong being dropped to No 2 in the South Australian Senate ticket?
Lundy: No. … Part of the problem is that we do have an Opposition that is just so persistently negative.
Lundy is another Foundation member of Emily’s List.
Surely Emily’s List will go down in history as the most useless group of politicians in the history of Australia.
Total Commonwealth Government Securities
on Issue – $255,936m, consisting of:
Treasury Bonds – $223,448m
Treasury Indexed Bonds – $16,969m
Treasury Notes – $15,500m
Other Securities – $19m
As at 26 October 2012, Updated weekly
Face value amounts rounded to the nearest million
Securities on issue subject to the limit under the Commonwealth Inscribed Stock Act 1911 total $251,349 million.
As antidote to Michelle’s Grattan’s epically ludicrous latest, Dennis Shanahan’s column on Abbott today is one of his best for a while. Excellent analysis.
But leave the race-baiting to the experts. SRSLY. It demeans you; it demeans this blog.
You didn’t read what I wrote?
Tell them to drink coffee. Or not to drink coffee. Or to take aspirin. Or not to take aspirin. Or to take vitamins. Or not to take vitamins. Whatever the pop-sci of the day deems “correct”.
In case you haven’t noticed there has been huge progress in the treatment of anxiety and depression. Seriously, leave the thinking about such matters to people who actually know something about it.
Roger Pielke, WSJ: Hurricanes and Human Choice
Sandy was terrible, but we’re currently in a relative hurricane ‘drought.’ Connecting energy policy and disasters makes little scientific sense.
But to call Sandy a harbinger of a “new normal,” in which unprecedented weather events cause unprecedented destruction, would be wrong…..
In studying hurricanes, we can make rough comparisons over time by adjusting past losses to account for inflation and the growth of coastal communities. If Sandy causes $20 billion in damage (in 2012 dollars), it would rank as the 17th most damaging hurricane or tropical storm (out of 242) to hit the U.S. since 1900—a significant event, but not close to the top 10. The Great Miami Hurricane of 1926 tops the list (according to estimates by the catastrophe-insurance provider ICAT), as it would cause $180 billion in damage if it were to strike today. Hurricane Katrina ranks fourth at $85 billion…..
While it’s hardly mentioned in the media, the U.S. is currently in an extended and intense hurricane “drought.” The last Category 3 or stronger storm to make landfall was Wilma in 2005. The more than seven years since then is the longest such span in over a century.
Flood damage has decreased as a proportion of the economy since reliable records were first kept by the National Weather Service in the 1930s, and there is no evidence of increasing extreme river floods. Historic tornado damage (adjusted for changing levels of development) has decreased since 1950, paralleling a dramatic reduction in casualties. Although the tragic impacts of tornadoes in 2011 (including 553 confirmed deaths) were comparable only to those of 1953 and 1964, such tornado impacts were far more common in the first half of the 20th century.
The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports that drought in America’s central plains has decreased in recent decades. And even when extensive drought occurs, we fare better.
Nothing ‘speculative’ about it. I’ve read the historical citations from the old VCs. The modern VCs don’t even come close to measuring up.
If the criteria have changed, that’s fine, but the bar has been lowered.
LOL. How small of you in the week a genuine Australian hero is commended for his bravery.
Why don’t you develop a points system for bravery? People can be racked up for kills and saves, and awarded bonus points for style, such as dual gun wielding, firing while smoking a durrie or with a King Brown in one hand, and for using whitty quips.
In case you haven’t noticed there has been huge progress in the treatment of anxiety and depression.
Of course. Which is why so very few viiiiictims are afflicted – nay, totally and permanently ‘incapacitated’ and ‘disabled’ – by it today as compared to in the past. Ever since the introduction of SSRIs, the number of people suffering depression and anxiety has plummeted. PLUMMETED, baby!
Which “cure” is it today – antidepressants, vitamins, beta-blockers, MDMA or aromatherapy? But tomorrow we’ll learn they all cause cancer, or dementia, or obesity, or somesuch anyway. And the “epidemic” of adult citizens requiring total support from the taxpayer for such “afflictions” will keep going up and up and up, and the amount of money taxpayers are required to fork out to “win the war” on “disabling anxiety and depression” will keep going up and up and up, and next year there’ll be even more of these poor afflicted beings, and even more taxpayer money required to support them, and even more taxpayer money required to fund researchers to figure out yet another new “cure” which will be heralded as a big win until it too is debunked… Rinse and repeat.
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney is a racist racist who’s racist. Because, MORMON!!11!!
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney is a racist racist who’s racist. Because, MORMON!!11!!
Your words, not mine.
The drug emphasis on treating depression – lay that at the feet of the medical profession with particular emphasis on the USA, which breaks all records on relying on drugs to treat conditions that can be approached through a number of cheaper avenues. There are some who argue that the use of SSRIs without psychotherapy increases the risk of relapse. If you have a problem with the treatment then blame Big Pharma and the medical community. I trusted you noted I cited two studies that proposed solutions which don’t cost a friggin cent.
The efficacy of antidepressants is over hyped by doctors and Big Pharma. That’s the free market for you: make up a condition then create a product to sell at ridiculous prices. The DSM V is being attacked for doing it all again. The drugs do help but the refusal to explore other therapeutic options is the fault of doctors and Big Pharma. Take up your concerns with them. GSK just got hit with a 3 billion dollar bill for hiding data, promoting off label use, and rigging trials. This is market failure on a grand scale. It illustrates why I think free market spirituality is a faith that can sometimes lead us into deep shit. But of course there are those who think the free market nevers fail.
Go on, have another whinge. Some people are trying to find ways to find better treatments that don’t involve expensive drugs that in trials sometimes barely get above the placebo response.
Did you actually read what I wrote, Abu? I said in the first instance that he and the others deserve high commendation – that is, decorations. Which you alter to some kind of weird jingoistic crapola about me not lionising the Genuine Australian Hero.
I have read the VC citations of history and I have read, say, Mark Donaldson’s. The bar has been lowered somewhat. Donaldson would have been unlikely to have been mentioned in dispatches at Lone Pyne. That’s not to question the heroism of what he did.
Why don’t you develop a points system for bravery?
Um, there already is one, in essence. That’s why the VC is atop a series of lesser but also prestigious decorations. It’s why you don’t get a VC for helping to build a school in Afghanistan – though it takes some bravery to be there at all. Stay tuned, though. A VC for a female ‘Digger’ who helped distribute birth control literature in the provinces is only a matter of time. Yesterday you were getting all misty about a couple of bozos in hush puppies strolling the carpet at Arlington, ffs. Get a grip.
Hey,Dog, really enjoyed your work through our night, particularly in relation to the race-baiting moral supremacist Dead Shit. How is JAX, m’man? Great town because of what it’s near.
Now you can understand why Aborigines in the NT felt so strongly there was no future in the ALP welfare/sitdown money they were prepared to vote for conservatives for the first time – and change the government:
ONE of the nation’s most senior indigenous politicians yesterday rebuked those of her people who rely on welfare, saying they need to grow up and stop resorting to the “dangerous conversation of endless complaint”.
Northern Territory Indigenous Advancement Minister Alison Anderson told the Territory’s Legislative Assembly that she “despaired at the reluctance” of some of her brethren to take available jobs.
“I look at the men of Yirrkala and ask why they will not drive the 20km to Nhulunbuy to earn excellent money in the mine and the processing plant there,” she said in her first major speech since taking the cabinet role.
“It is the kind of question the rest of Australia has been asking for years, as it tries to connect the dots, tries to understand why a long-running mining boom can exist literally next door to a culture of entitlement and welfare dependency.”
She criticised those who expected the government to “do everything for them”, saying the world was looking on and “wondering if we are children”. Ms Anderson said that in her travels to remote communities she would be arguing “with adults who refuse to grow up”.
I’m really liking North Florida, Tom. Very friendly laid-back vibe in the coastal communities south of Jax, and close to some great amenities. I may have half-jokingly told someone at the rally last night that if Obama loses I’m moving my main residency back to the States, to counter all the thousands who have promised to leave if Romney wins. LOL.
Just as Turnbull leading the Libs is a leftwing fantasy, an early election is a conservative idea that most likely won’t be realised. What is not in dispute is that Abbott has to change:
Abbott’s easiest days as Opposition Leader are behind him as he moves into a period where the polls tighten, the frustration about an “early” election among voters will ease as an election nears and he will be more closely assessed as an alternative prime minister …
Of course, Abbott won’t and can’t stop his carbon tax campaign because it would be suicidal for his credibility and a shift from a genuine area of public concern. There is clear evidence that Abbott’s aggressive campaign against the carbon tax has cost him personal support. His daily media appearance in a fluoro vest or hard hat is losing its appeal and appropriateness as the Opposition Leader needs to become more authoritative and considered.
Already this week it is clear Abbott is starting to introduce changes to his style, the way he uses his colleagues and the emphasis on the Coalition’s attack …
Abbott does have to change and there are enormous risks for him in doing so but one thing is clear, the Liberal leader is not showing signs of panic and following Labor’s advice on what he should do.
Moving too far too quickly or leaving a shift too late are all dangerous, but taking Labor’s advice is downright dumb.
*Snigger* I see on Sunrise (and the Herald Sun) that two of Abbott’s daughters have been wheeled out for a bit of “he’s not misogynist, honest” PR.
I don’t think this “I’ll stay quiet while I send out the women to defend me or do my job” tactic is actually such a good look. It gives the impression that he does have something to defend. Which he does, anyway, in my assessment; but still, if he thought he didn’t, then he should not be pulling back or sending the troops in ahead of him.
Nothing ‘speculative’ about it. I’ve read the historical citations from the old VCs. The modern VCs don’t even come close to measuring up.
If the criteria have changed, that’s fine, but the bar has been lowered.
LOL. How small of you in the week a genuine Australian hero is commended for his bravery.
Why don’t you develop a points system for bravery? People can be racked up for kills and saves, and awarded bonus points for style, such as dual gun wielding, firing while smoking a durrie or with a King Brown in one hand, and for using whitty quips.
Broke my ankle once, walked it off.
Anyway what the digger did was exceptionally brave. Being compared to Albert Jacka is like being compared to a drugged up version of Achilles.
The lying slapper hates women though. Se thinks married women are enslaved. That’s misogyny right there.
But seriously, who gives a flying fuck who she likes… even hairdressers. She will be out of our fuckng lives soon enough and hopefully we won’t hear a peep from the amoral scrubber.
Well gee, if Shanahan knows so much, why isn’t he a politician. No doubt Abbott and co have their plans and strategies. Working pretty well at the moment. Recall this time last year where Gillard finished the year amid accolades as the great negotiator, and awesome tactician because she put Slipper in as Speaker. I think Shanahan even thought so. How well did that work out ?
Nevertheless the libs are intent this year to deny labor any possibility of finishing the Parliamentary year on an upbeat. They kept their powder dry on the AWU/S&G corruption until now. Shanahan is probably right that labor is pretty much resigned to staying with Gillard as leader, so it would be a devastating blow to their plans if the libs got her scalp. They have one more sitting week this year – it could happen. Seems to me Shanahan wrote this as just another way of avoiding discussion of Gillard’s shady past. So far as I can see, he has never written a word on it.
The Fairfax civil war with itself continues with lone senior Age journo Mark Baker continuing to investigate Gillard’s past and the company’s zombie Green left editors continuing to bury the story. You have to know where this story is in FXJ cyberspace to find it:
…there were plenty of other AWU branch officials who might have told her (Gillard) about the ”real” Ralph (Blewitt).
Russell Frearson was one. The then AWU branch accountant and erstwhile ally of Wilson says he knew nothing at the time about the dodgy slush fund but he knew all about Blewitt.
”He was Bruce’s dog. You stick the dog on the tuckerbox and no one would touch it,” he says. ”Ralph was there to make sure no one organised against Bruce (Wilson).”
Frearson says that after Wilson went to take over the AWU Victorian branch in 1992, he installed Blewitt in his place as branch secretary in WA. From the outset, Blewitt proved to be an incompetent manager who antagonised most of his colleagues: ”He was crazy. You knew you were dealing with an idiot.”
If it was Abbott they were investigating, there’d be a team of 6-10 on the story, with big caps headlines on the front page.
I’m sure many people missed this brilliant piece by Miranda Devine on Gillard’s behaviour earlier this week:
THERE are two types of females in this world: the “woman’s woman” and the “man’s woman”.
The latter adores men and is an incorrigible flirt. At a party she will be the one talking with the men, preferring their company to that of any woman. She will never observe the quaint “BBQ rules” that frequently divide Australian social gatherings down gender lines.
She regards attention from men as more important than the regard of women.
A woman’s woman loves men just as much but, for the most part, she abides by a loyalty code to her own sex, which holds that the best way to ruin a good friendship is to compete for the attention of men.
Most women are somewhere along the continuum between the two extremes, and women can move in and out of each camp as they grow older, and depending on circumstances.
It’s extremely hard being banned or moderated as the opinions of some of your contributors are a bit hard to read without passion rising. Do you think you could let me back in, or at least ban me from reading the stuff?
A woman’s woman loves men just as much but, for the most part, she abides by a loyalty code to her own sex, which holds that the best way to ruin a good friendship is to compete for the attention of men.
WTF? Sister’s code?
I think Devine bombed here. I like a post junior high school society where men and women talk to each other…and if people want to start a relationship they don’t do that junior high school crap either.
You can see the vile spiteful bigoted hatred that peace, albeit an imposed peace , inspires in this element of the “left” right here. Look at them. They condemn themselves.
They just can not bear the concept of peace in any form. Like the Jihad Nazi insurgents of Islamism they admire, Hamas Hezbollah and Tehran, the gutless antisemitic left feeds off war and hate. They breed in it and they breed it,
This is why they have dredged the parrot cage dirt tray of a free and liberal society from years ago for juicy anonymous morsels from the Second Intifada and beyond from even then ten and more years ago
None of it is original. All could have been investigated and still would be if they were reported and really should be given as much credibility as an anonymous account by someone claiming to be former ADF from East Timor or Vietnam.
With the epic corruption of New South Wales Labor now coming to light, the ABC’s Lateline is miffed. Last night Tony Jones’s ‘coming up on Lateline’ teaser used the phrase “show trials.”
And from the main story’s transcript:
Philippa McDonald reports.
PHILIPPA MCDONALD, REPORTER: In some circles it’s already being called the “Labor show trials”, allegations of improper conduct by three former ministers, Eric Roozendaal, Eddie Obeid and Ian MacDonald. And the witness list makes for impressive reading: three former NSW premiers: Morris Iemma, Nathan Rees and Kristina Keneally.
From the profile of Ipp, the chap running the ICAC inquiry, that was published today – I think the ABC had better tread carefully. Describing his proceedings as a ‘show trial’ would not sit well with him.
ICAC has power to deal with people who hold it in contempt, including fines and jail. The motormouths at the ABC should not imagine that Ipp would not use them.
So gillard rewards a foul-mouthed misogynist and someone who has “issues” with his expenses. I’m not surprised at all. Slipper fits in well with the Labor coven.
The rent-seeking parasites that specialise in milking governments and regulated industries are on the march again. They’re now after their pound of flesh for Melbourne’s desalination plant, which was built in a rush on the orders of the nation-wrecking Greens:
THE average Melbourne household can expect their water bill to jump by a massive $290 next financial year to pay for the problem-plagued desalination plant.
The city’s three major water retailers – City West Water, South East Water and Yarra Valley Water – have proposed price increases of an average 34 per cent from July as part of their five-year plans.
The price rises, which are largely driven by the cost of the beleaguered Wonthaggi desalination plant, will bring the average annual water bill to $1130, up from $840.
City West Water managing director Anne Barker, who is the industry spokeswoman for water price rises, said the bill increases would recover costs of $650 million due to be paid to Aquasure – the consortium overseeing the desal plant – in 2013. ”More than two-thirds of those price rises is for the desal plant,” she said.
Ms Barker said a price freeze on water bills from July this year had contributed to the large price jump.
In June, the state government belatedly ordered Melbourne Water to return $230 million it had overcharged customers for the operation of the unfinished desal plant by imposing a price rise freeze on household water bills scheduled for July 1.
”Because there was a price freeze on our original determination that gave us a 10 per cent rise this year, unfortunately that has contributed a lot to the size of the increase next year,” Ms Barker said.
She admitted the rise would increase pressure on households already experiencing increases in energy bills.
It’s such a surprise that things keep going up in NSW even although Mr. O’Farrell has stumbled over a Billion Dollars he didn’t think he had. You’ve all been had, you right leaning people.
’ll stay quiet while I send out the women to defend me or do my job” tactic is actually such a good loo
Yeah, and getting up in parliament and screeching misogyny at the opposition leader, getting the term redefined in the dictionary, and then refusing to answer questions under the misogyny defense – they’re all great looks.
The wrongology practice is open and in full swing.
On the VC thing – whether by outcome or by design, the bar for a VC award is always going to operate on some type of bell curve, with the recipients being the ones at the thinnest part of the tail.
It will always be impossible to judge bravery between generations and between wars. So it will have to be bravery relative to the current crop. You don’t want a full generation of soldiers to go through the forces and none of them end up with the award, because it’s an important morale and recruitment tool.
So bravo to the chap that won it and as long as they aren’t being debased as a political tool, I have no issue.
Australia’s biggest resources development, the $43 billion Gorgon LNG project in Western Australia, has quietly struck a deal with the federal government to import 150 semi-skilled foreign workers, in a move that will anger unions and Labor MPs who want Julia Gillard to restrict the use of overseas labour.
Steve you seem upset that Tony Abbott’s charming and well dressed daughters are going to have day out at the races with their family and looking forward to spending time with their dad because it’s his birthday too.
Is it really so terrible?
Lone Pine is certainly the right hand edge of the bell curve for VCs.
When seven are won (most in one patch the size of a tennis court during hand-to-hand fighting) during an action contained in an area 160 x 300 yards, and where there are 2300 Australian and 6500-7300 Turkish casualties, you have something very unusual even by WWI standards.
Sledge: Here’s an hitherto unpublished snippet from this week’s caucus meeting in which Julia Gillard shirt fronted backbencher Doug Cameron. You’ll remember Gillard was angered at the leaking of the caucus mining committee’s report, which was authored by Cameron, saying it would be moved to the bottom of the pile of reports for consideration. The Left-faction powerbroker said the report contained issues of critical importance to the union movement. Gillard’s replied crisply in words to the effect of: “I have a strong positive relationship with the union movement, unlike the situation in the past.” The statement was taken as a swipe at both Cameron and former leader Kevin Rudd.
Julia Gillard will miss the running of the Melbourne Cup next Tuesday. She’ll be in Laos when the barriers open, attending the 9th Asia-Europe Meeting.
She sure seems to be travelling out of the country a lot more these days. Expect a slight bump in the polls week after next.
A fascinating voting map of Canberra’s suburbs at last month’s ACT election. I’m sure Rabz, Julian and other locals have thoughts. The territory still doesn’t have a government as Lib (8) and Lab (8) play Bribe the Green (1).
Andrew Landeryou at VexNews has just published an attack on the ICAC investigation of the NSW Labor slimepit, and a grovelling defence of his presumed pals.
He has also recently attacked questioning of Gillard’s AWU corruption links.
It’s curious – he’s often excellent on corruption issues, but seems very sensitive about these two. I thought it might just be Labor partisanship, but am now starting to wonder if there is more to it …
Oh, and he also described the ICAC hearings as ‘show trials’. I hope Ipp gives the media a first and final warning on this very soon.
Yes Tom, that map pretty much conformed to what I wrote about the mortgage belts. Some of the red suburbs got absolutely nothing out of labor/green government, yet they’re still red. Chumps. Inner south represents many of the business/corporate people who probably wanted a change in current disastrous economic direction.
At a Greens party meeting on Sunday many members indicated Mr Rattenbury should back Ms Gallagher. But a number spoke in favour of the Canberra Liberals, arguing the Greens needed to distance themselves from the ALP to reclaim the party’s identity.
Beyond funny. Labor is trying to distance itself from the greens, and now greens will distance themselves from labor.
That pre-nuptial agreement Bob and Julia signed is looking a bit tatty.
Very Interesting figures in ACT. Makes me wish I’d been in town to vote.
An interesting approach is to view these figures based on where the Govt offices are. You have four main centres Belconnen, Woden, Tuggeranong and Civic (City) Plus the two Universities and most of their accommodation in Civic, Bruce,Lyneham and O’Connor. I am a little surprised there is no Labor voting stronghold near Tuggeranong; Kambah South doesn’t seem enough.
Once you move out of these zones, the proportion of people directly working in govt/academia drops substantially. We all like living close to work.
None the less, the results in Nappy Valley in the south should be a concern for Labor. I suspect this may mean that the newer Nappy zones are actually outside the ACT due to the astonishingly high cost of property here.
Great to see Abbott and his beautiful daughters will be attending Derby Day. If Gillard attended the races someone would whack a saddle on her and stick a carrot in her mouth.
Imagine the unspeakable fury that would erupt across the Islamic world if a Christian-led government in Khartoum had been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Sudanese Muslims over the past 30 years. Or if Christian gunmen were firebombing mosques in Iraq during Friday prayers. Or if Muslim girls in Indonesia had been abducted and beheaded on their way to school, because of their faith.
dismissive, I think your demographics are a bit out of whack. Firstly, you left out the Parliamentary Triangle, which hosts thousands of bureaucrats. But more to the point, while people like to live near work, in two income households at least one of them probably doesn’t, and further, because agencies get moved around, and people change jobs, the pattern doesn’t work out like that.
The people I worked with in various agencies came from all over town.
The demographics relate more to age and income cohorts. What was once ‘nappy valley’ (Tuggers) is now home to a vast high school age population, and is actually shrinking in number of residents. Because housing was relatively cheap there at first, it does resemble a lot of outer suburban seats in Sydney and Melbourne – as in, mortgages, kids and not necessarily high incomes.
Still, a great result, marred only by the vagaries of the stupid Hare-Clark system putting the Greens in the box seat instead of in the bin.
Yes, a very interesting map. There are some obvious answers and some real puzzles.
Oaks Estate is near Queanbeyan and near the railway, and is a fairly poor enclave. The whole of Queanbeyan really functions as a working class locale near Canberra, but outside the ACT. Oaks Estate is in some ways part of Queanbeyan. Naturally it votes Labor.
Tharwa is quite rural and might vote Coalition simply on that basis.
Inner South (Forrest, Red Hill, Yarralumla etc.) are wealthy areas and naturally vote Liberal. So do some of the politer parts of Weston Creek (I think I spot Chapman, a “prestige suburb”, and Holder, which I visited this morning, and which is really very charming).
The Labor dominance of Inner North and Belconnen makes some sort of sense (bit of Greens sentiment near the Uni perhaps and Belco has the reputation of being a bit less classy, although my own suburb, Aranda, is quite “leafy”, tho’ full of academics and similar Labor leaning types).
Campbell is an outlier, just north of the Lake and really part of Inner North, but it has strong associations with the armed forces which would push it in the Liberal direction.
The real puzzles are the Liberal areas in the two recent “nappy vallies”, the younger areas of Tuggeranong and Gungahlin. I would have predicted Tuggers would go Labor, and that is a real surprise. Some “aspirational” voters thing – maybe mortgages are a concern? Same with Gungahlin?
Clearly Labor has made some of the more middle-of-the-road Canberrans unhappy.
Sounds like I’m 10 years out of date Johanna. I suppose I should start getting involved locally again. I find I spend more time outside the ACT than in these days.
My experience in those days matches what I said but things change and you’re more likely correct.
Julian
Tuggeranong and Gungahlin are relatively recent and feel service poor (definitely not by outer Melbourne standards) and were thus sensitive to any talk about increased revenues being raised from housing with little in return. Gungahlin still has a commuter traffic problem to Civic for instance. I’m puzzled by well established suburbs that remain service poor or have lost services, remaining solidly labor.
The real puzzles are the Liberal areas in the two recent “nappy vallies”, the younger areas of Tuggeranong and Gungahlin. I would have predicted Tuggers would go Labor, and that is a real surprise. Some “aspirational” voters thing – maybe mortgages are a concern? Same with Gungahlin?
Those of us who grew up and lived in “nappy valley” know quite well exactly what the new Labor party thinks of our drinking, smoking, 4wding, fishing, dirt bike riding, aspirational “bogan” ways.
ACT Labor does not in any way shape or form represent the “working” class. It’s a party wholly and totally dedicated to the technocratic and Green Left public servant classes. The “working class” in Canberra (as separate from the oaks estate welfare class) know this, have been insulted by this and almost driven out of the city by the same.
Rents for average four bedroom houses are pushing $550 in shitty old Richardson and Banks. Ten years ago a small two bedroom home in Banks was bought for $140,000 the same house now is “worth” $310,000. This does not make the young family with a mechanic for a father and part time secratary mother happy. For a family not in the APS to buy a family home one is looking at $400k+ in what is effectively a country town private economy.
Labor have totally withdrawn basic government services from the south: Nature strips which used to make Canberra aren’t tended anymore, nearly every suburb has schools that have been shut down, fenced up then left to rot for years.
Every square inch of space has been filled in with 1950′s Soviet era style Ghettos.
And to top it all off – to really give all the nappy valley “bogans” the middle finger – they go and stick a god awful fluro orange massive piece of “artwork” in the middle of the parkway. Knowing full well what the locals will think.
Yes, Gungahlin has had irritating commuter problems. And The Greens copped some of the blame by delaying the GDE.
As for Inner North, that is quite an old area, and there may be some low income retirees and pensioners pushing the vote to Labor. Also, there are some cheap flats around Civic and up Northbourne Avenue that might make a difference.
It is interesting to see that the Eastern fringe of Inner South still has some Labor areas, although I wonder if that is not gentrification by public service yuppies who might vote Labor, as well as some continuing working class effect there, e.g. in Narrabundah, Griffith and what used to be called The Causeway.
The Woden Valley is strongly Labor. I wonder if that is not a bit like Inner North: an ageing, not very wealthy, population.
I suspect the rates rise campaign might have bitten especially hard in the areas like Gungahlin and Tuggeranong, which are pretty much mortgage belt.
Very good points twostix. The housing affordability and deliberate withholding of land supply to boost rates and land tax revenues are very sore points indeed.
The housing affordability and deliberate withholding of land supply to boost rates and land tax revenues are very sore points indeed.
Much of the private economy citizenry was driven out in 2009/2010 after Rudds mass APS expansion. We know three families in the private economy who left, including us – we can live anywhere and work so couldn’t see the point in staying to pay the now ridiculous rents and moved to the beach. The others moved to Queanbeyan and one to Yass.
As Julian wonders:
It is interesting to see that the Eastern fringe of Inner South still has some Labor areas, although I wonder if that is not gentrification by public service yuppies who might vote Labor
This is exactly the case – as the privately employed traditional residents of Tuggeranong are leaving they’re being replaced (or being driven out) by young APS employed couples.
Coincidentally that’s a situation that suits ACT Labor just fine.
Strange huh?
In any case Queanbeyan is starting to really thrive with the influx of Howards “battlers” and that’s also affecting the Eden Monaro vote federally.
Sinc. how can you put up with the rubbish from from these people? They seem to have a mean mental age of about 16 years.
“Let’s write something smutty on the back of the toilet door” giggle giggle smirk giggle.
Agree with twostix and Julian – Labor is hardly the party of the battlers in this town. All that snuggling up to the Greens has done them a lot of harm.
Yes, they despise ‘aspirational’ working people; they hate smoking, drinking, gambling, motor sport and cars with a passion; they regard recycling and public transport as the path to Nirvana; they waste millions on hideous ‘public art’ and grants to their pals while schools and hospitals struggle; and worst of all, they are complicit in the endlessly rising costs of water, gas and electricity, underpinned by lectures from the Greens about how we all consume too much.
The only battlers they care about are criminals, who are regarded as misunderstood and rarely sent to jail.
Julian, Thanks for the picture you’ve painted, which is extremely useful. I can’t wait to find out which party the Greens are going to destroy in the ACT.
Rabz, DB, I’m already in for $200 @ $3.50. I’ll go again tomorrow with another $400 @ $3.50 or better. Mitt can pay for my Christmas shopping. Thank you to the Black Jesus for being an airhead America can’t afford.
The only battlers they care about are criminals, who are regarded as misunderstood and rarely sent to jail.
When I was a kid back in the 80′s we had a neighbour across the road – a single mum, pretty hardcore caarrrrn style shaz with two teenage daughters.
One night they were having a party, it was late and a bunch of guys spilled over onto our front lawn having a biffo and then one of them runs to his car and gets a rifle out comes back over and starts pointing it at people.
I remember mum calling the police who then had a go at her for calling, said they’d send someone out…and never did.
Stories like this regarding the joker AFP are rife in Canberra.
Labor – still no idea. Still useless. Still playing at being grown-ups.
Labor’s decision to rush amendments to the Fair Work Act through the Parliament less than 24 hours after introducing them into the Parliament has backfired as Labor Members spoke to the wrong Bill.
“This embarrassingly inept performance by a former trade union boss just proves how rushed and ill prepared Labor is, despite having all the resources of Government at their disposal.”
“The Parliament was given less than 24 hours to consider over 300 pages of amending legislation.”
“Bill Shorten is so desperate to be seen doing something – after union bosses vetoed many of his skewed Review’s ‘no-brainer’ recommendations – he’s completely confusing his own colleagues.”
“This rushed and shambolic situation could have been avoided if the Government treated the Parliament with some respect and allowed detailed consideration by all Members – including the Government Backbench.”
I still maintain that one of Abbott’s first acts when he wins the election should be to abolish the ACT and incorporate it back into NSW.
I heard some scuttlebutt last time I was there that some of the administrative depts might be going to the regions under Abbott – though that was “threatened” a few times under Howard as well.
What needs to happen is Treasury to Sydney, Immigration to Perth, AFP to Brisbane, Centrelink to Melbourne & Medicare to Adelaide.
The ACT can’t be ‘abolished’ – it is provided for in the Constitution. However, it need be no larger than 100 square miles, and the rest could be handed back to NSW – provided the Commonwealth parliament and a majority of NSW electors agree.
The Constitution has significant (probably insurmountable) barriers to abolishing Tasmania or any other State against its will.
Ministers want their Departments’ senior executives and policy people close at hand when Parliament is sitting, so there is no chance of moving them holus bolus to other places. Central agencies like Treasury, PM&C and Finance will never move at all.
That said, a lot of peripheral functions and agencies could be located elsewhere.
There is no reason, whatsoever, for the ACT to have ‘self government’.
Agreed.
Canberra was beautiful – spectacularly gorgeous before self government.
Gorgeous suburbs, well maintained public spaces, and cared about – as the national capital should be.
Now it’s an ugly overgrown, over regulated, run down shithole that outside the government favoured areas (CBD and inner north) looks like a cross between a dying country town and 1970′s Belarus.
I’m fucking speechles. This isn’t chump change for Rhode island either.
Ex-Red Sox Star Accused of Fraud in Rhode Island
The state’s economic development agency sued Curt Schilling, a former Red Sox pitcher, and some of its former officials on Thursday, saying they misled the state into approving a loan guarantee to Mr. Schilling’s failed video game company. The collapse of the company, 38 Studios, is likely to leave the state on the hook for $100 million. Among other things, the lawsuit says, executives at 38 Studios — as well as Keith Stokes, the former executive director of the agency, and others — knew the company would run out of money by 2012, but concealed that knowledge from the agency board.
Hey, twostix, as a resident of the inner South (home of the Parliamentary triangle and Canberra’s most expensive suburbs) I resemble that remark Things are not too shabby around here.
But, I agree that overall the joint is run-down, dilapidated and mismanaged compared to the pre self-government era.
Tasmania can’t be abolished, but Senate reform should ensure that it doesn’t get to elect any Greens. It should be pro rata in all things, including funding – at least until they wake up to themselves and remember that they have to have real jobs, not “Green” ones, in order to be a functioning state.
Man claims “discrimination” for being banned from girls’ toilets, little girls told to stop being so hateful.
OLYMPIA, Wash. — A transgender woman ['Colleen' Francis] said she was discriminated against after using the women’s locker room at Evergreen State College…
“They’re uncomfortable with him being in there, her, being in there and are shocked by it,” said parent Kristi Holterman.
Holterman’s daughter was one of the swimmers and complained to Evergreen.
The cock-exposing criminal says he’s a victim:
Local school officials said they came up with a temporary solution.
“There’s a smaller locker room next to the main locker room at the pool, and they (the swim teams) have been using that,” said Ryan Betz, a spokesman for the Olympia School District.
Francis believes the students need to be informed.
“This is not 1959 Alabama. We don’t call police for drinking from the wrong water fountain,” said Francis.
“This is not 1959 Alabama. We don’t call police for drinking from the wrong water fountain,” said Francis.
They really do pile it on thick and it’s pretty disgusting to equate complaints about a bloke in a girls’ locker room to what Negroes suffered under the Democrat’s KKK.
The way Tassie is going they’ll have to put in an administrator before long and declare a duck season on greenfilth…
I’d pay good money for a game license to hunt greenfilth. I have a mate who can produce the copper-plated solid steel bullets you’d need for headshots on greenfilth: hitting a lentil-sized brain inside the vast mass of solid bone their heads contain is tough.
But someone’s gotta do it. It’s a public service.
And they are easy (if disgusting) to clean, no backbone, no guts, but completely full of sh*t. if you shoot a 100kg greenfilth just slice it open, drain the sh*t out and you have 3kg of decent crab-bait.
From another thread (H/T: NT Oldie): The ALPBC is running a head line story:- “New York mayor Michael Bloomberg has endorsed the re-election of Barack Obama, citing the president’s leadership on climate change.”
LOL. Honestly, they are shameless liars; the ALPBC and Bloomberg.
Tasmania can’t be abolished but NSW and QLD can be split into two with a little prodding……That would create another state Gov which imho is the last thing we need.In fact I would be happy to them all go.
It seems the free car then Roads Minister Roozendaal received for unspecified favours was involved in a hit and run while in his possession. Nobody twigged because it was in someone else’s name at the time.
Notice Chris Murphy can’t stay out of the Tweets – comment re Anderson
Hard to imagine a more hatefilled arsehole. He’s the Uncle Tom he accuses Alison of being:
chris murphy@chrismurphys
Aunty Tom attitude. LIB Alison Anderson jumps ship from LAB.From her sweet Parlt job accuses indigenes of ‘endless complaint’ #auspol
2 Nov 12
Fuck off, you evil whitefellah prick, and take your murderous ALP sitdown money with you.
We really need an Australian version of twitchy – the site does great work, and is a great help for conservatives to “take control” on twitter. Twitter aint half us much fun for conservatives in Australia.
What a gift for the Abbott government-in-waiting. When do Canberra’s rates and charges go up to pay for the Green fantasies the ALP will be forced to finance?
He said his decision today was based on key policies including light rail, climate change and greenhouse gas reduction targets, marriage equality, and the health of the ACT waterways.
His agreement with Labor covered about 100 items, and included a ministry and a seat in the Labor cabinet.
What’s with this Derby Day thing – just because the Abbott family will be there including gorgeous daughters, it’s bringing out the Labor party nutters.
On Wednesday, while visiting cleanup efforts in New Jersey in the company of Gov. Chris Christie, President Barack Obama vowed: “We are not going to tolerate red tape, we are not going to tolerate bureaucracy.”
Unless, of course, that red tape is enforced by Obama’s union cronies. Then stranded residents have to wait.
We really need an Australian version of twitchy – the site does great work, and is a great help for conservatives to “take control” on twitter. Twitter aint half us much fun for conservatives in Australia.
Go ahead, try mentioning Twitter on Bolt’s or Blair’s blog. You’ll get page after page of “TWITTER is STUPID” … “TWITTER is for TWITS!!11!!”
It’s getting a bit better, but not much. Aussie conservatives seem to lack something when it comes to social media.
What’s with this Derby Day thing – just because the Abbott family will be there including gorgeous daughters, it’s bringing out the Labor party nutters.
Abbott has a loving family, candy – it’s proof how old-fashioned he is. Here he is – a married man with kids – and the misogynistic misogynist wouldn’t even have an affair with Gillard!
And as for his wife, she’s a WIFE. Wives are whores, according to Gillard. So Abbott is sleeping with a whore, and his kids are whore-spawn.
Go ahead, try mentioning Twitter on Bolt’s or Blair’s blog. You’ll get page after page of “TWITTER is STUPID” … “TWITTER is for TWITS!!11!!”
Give it tiem. Most people do not understand the communication power, they see it as a toy.
Try this.
I explain to people who say that how I can get notices from the State Fire Service and note what happened on Black Friday.
The NSW Rural Fire Service, the world’s largest fire service. Our 70,000 volunteer members provide emergency services to over 95 percent of NSW.
In fact last Sunday there was a fire in the National Park near me and there was a lot of smoke around. I went onto the NSW Fire Service and saw a note reporting the fire was reported 2 km away.
It’s getting a bit better, but not much. Aussie conservatives seem to lack something when it comes to social media.
Honestly sdog, it’s a bit of a slog… I occasionally get on there and have a good crack, but I couldn’t put up with it on a daily basis – it’s at least five to one against me.
n 1949 the Chifley Labor government passed an Act to confirm that all those who could vote in their states could vote in Commonwealth elections. This gave the right to vote to Aboriginal people in all states except Queensland and Western Australia.[citation needed]
In 1962 the Commonwealth Electoral Act was amended to give indigenous people the right to enrol and vote in Commonwealth elections irrespective of their voting rights at the state level. If and only if they were enrolled, it was compulsory to vote. However, enrolment itself was not compulsory and it was illegal under Commonwealth legislation to encourage indigenous people to enrol to vote. Any person enrolled who failed to vote could be liable to prosecution and a fine.
You will notice Gab that it was a Labour that brought in the vote for the Indiginous people of Australia.
How much groveling and false promises did you make to get back Alan, you pathetic turd.
JC I would cease to be the mooching Celtic gentleman that I am if I was to divulge any part of my contact with Mr. Davidson without his approval. You could ask him.
Rabz I couldn’t help but notice that you were hoping to get some money on Romney this afternoon? If you are not set, your friendly Turf Accountant is open for business. My odds are listed over on the “polls are wrong” discussion. Got a good double going on Romney/Abbott as well. Get it while the going is good.
Hey, I’ll yield to no-one in my defence of NSW, which has not yet quite gotten over the Rum Rebellion, as the most corrupt State. In fact, I wrote my Master’s thesis about it. It was a real struggle to stay under the word limit
Nick Greiner’s government was clean, but it is difficult to bring any others, of either persuasion, to mind.
Although I do not like to see Gerard put the boot into Karina Carvalho because of her exotic beauty and great rack. She is a terrible ALPBC lefty though. Can’t have everything I guess.
If you had bothered to read the post properly you would have noticed that it was the Chiefly Govt of 1949 that passed the act. How could you have missed it, right on the first line. You really must try harder Dorothy. (dot).
And Myxomatosis 49 you must learn to spell my name the Scottish way (Alan).
TONY Abbott’s plan to tie public servants’ bonuses to annual red tape reductions risks undermining morale and creating a culture of patronage in the public sector, experts say.
Under the proposal, agency heads and departmental secretaries would be required to make annual cuts to the cost of reporting and compliance regimes on businesses and families.
But former senior bureaucrats are divided on the merits performance pay in the public sector.
Why won’t the public sector like the policy?
“You got people unhappy, they thought it was unfair…”
He said it was at odds with the public sector culture, ignored the complexity of the workings of the public service, was bad for morale and teamwork, and “gives senior leaders and excuse to avoid real leadership”.
And this risible excuse for journalism is in The Australian.
It was also a labor government that set a high wage for drovers essentially putting the blacks out of jobs, Hagus.
Hesus.
It was spelled Labour in those days, and your mob, the squatters, only paid them Rum and tobacco and impregnated their women to get cheap workers for nothing.
If you had bothered to read the post properly you would have noticed that it was the Chiefly Govt of 1949 that passed the act. How could you have missed it, right on the first line. You really must try harder Dorothy. (dot).
Yeah, so they had to modify it in 1962, and pass a referendum in 1967?
Please tell us what the ALP policy towards the Chinese was after Federation? I suspect it was a pettifogging attitude on par with Sir Joh’s attitude towards Aborigines.
You must try harder to be a literate and sober troll.
It was spelled Labour in those days, and your mob, the squatters, only paid them Rum and tobacco and impregnated their women to get cheap workers for nothing.
Yep sure. Malcolm Fraser paid his station hands with rum, tobacco and forced sex.
I thought they already had performance pay, but tying it to red tape reduction is new. Anyway, could a public servant actually conceive of simplifying, streamlining, eliminating ?
A common query from new members relates to the spelling of the word ‘Labor’. The records tell us that, in the early days, the ALP was known as both ‘Labor’ and ‘Labour’. The report of the party’s federal conference in 1902 was spelled ‘Labor’; in 1905 and 1908 ‘Labour’ and from 1912 ‘Labor’. This final change is thought to have reflected the influence of the then powerful United States labor movement, and especially the influence of Labor’s prominent American-born member King O’Malley. The change also happened to make it easier to distinguish references to the Party from the labour movement in general.”
In other words, doofus, you are wrong. It has been Labor since 1912.
I presume that the rest of your comments demonstrate a similar level of keen research. That took me about 15 seconds, btw.
Fleasy I am using them right. You must have a crook eye as well as a scaberous split heel.
Dorothy I have told you I am a Celtic Gentleman of faultless breeding.
Johanna, I do not have a degree and I left school at 14 to persue a trade that has given me much pleasure to ply.
I am only learning now what I paid for you to learn through the taxation system that appears to turn out rude ungrateful students that brag about minor achievements from their Uni days.
Alan, I didn’t learn to use Google at uni. I did it on my own time. Maybe you should try it? Especially now that you are living off the taxpayer for the rest of your life, and have plenty of spare time.
The hurricane-ravaged east coast has been receiving north Alabama help, but crews from Huntsville Utilities learned they’ll be doing work in Long Island, New York instead of in New Jersey.
Crews from Huntsville, as well as Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can’t do any work there since they’re not union employees.
The crews that are in Roanoke, Virginia say they are just watching and waiting even though they originally received a call asking for help from Seaside Heights, New Jersey.
The crews were told to stand down. In fact, Moore said the crew from Trinity is already headed back home.
And this risible excuse for journalism is in The Australian.
The poison runs deep CL. Apparently there are now some pollies demanding, on constitutional grounds, for the Federal govt to fund a high court challenge to the laws which removed many of their perks.
The ALP adopted the formal name “Australian Labour Party” in 1908, but changed the spelling to “Labor” in 1912. While it is standard practice in Australian English both today and at the time to spell the word labour with a “u”, the party was influenced by the United States labour movement and a prominent figure in the early history of the party, the American–born King O’Malley, was successful in having the spelling “modernised”.[11] The change also made it easier to distinguish references to the party from the labour movement in general.[12] Furthermore, the spelling “labor” had been acceptable in both British and Australian English in earlier periods.
Joanne. If you had not rushed your research you would have noticed the above. It seems that you should have spent less time Googleing and more time learning how to talk properly to your benefactors.
I am a part funded pensioner, and do have to pay my $7 and some cents Electricity bill myself.
As for you tiggy, basket weaving can be quite lucrative if it is let out to overseas workers as your mob would have us do.
Fleasy I am using them right. You must have a crook eye as well as a scaberous split heel.
No, you’re not. You keep putting your reply in blockquotes along with the quoted text. Once is a accident, three times is carelessness… but insisting you were using them right when it’s pointed out to you is just downright stupid.
Dorothy I’m quite aware that ridicule of an aging member of the community is seen by your mob as an acceptable bloodsport. As an old chap with a slightly fading memory I accept that all I do or believe in has a hazy component sometimes. What’s your excuse you self opinionated big noter. Alice had you picked in one go a shadowy creature hiding behind a Dorothy Dot instead of a name.
Fleasy I am using them right. You must have a crook eye as well as a scaberous split heel.
No, you’re not. You keep putting your reply in blockquotes along with the quoted text. Once is a accident, three times is carelessness… but insisting you were using them right when it’s pointed out to you is just downright stupid.
My , My Fleasy you are a petulant little chap. I bet you were known as Dobber Fleasy at Kindy .Sinc, Sinc He’s spelt his name wrong. Hang Him.
I will Gab, if you lot show me the same courtesy and don’t swear at me and call me stupid and refer to me as being stupid etc when I am patently not.
I will call Fleasy by his chosen name if an agreement is reached. I will even try to use the block quotes properly if it stops Fleasy having a fit.Is that OK with you Fleasy?
Dorothy I’m quite aware that ridicule of an aging member of the community is seen by your mob as an acceptable bloodsport. As an old chap with a slightly fading memory I accept that all I do or believe in has a hazy component sometimes. What’s your excuse you self opinionated big noter. Alice had you picked in one go a shadowy creature hiding behind a Dorothy Dot instead of a name.
Wow you know Alice. I bet you know “philomena” as well.
Gab, I have been around for some months now, ask Hesus if you don’t believe me. I would like to contribute but I seem to spend my entire arsenal just defending myself.
Hesus has been very rude about me, and my relationship with Mr. Davidson.
Just wandering through the lounge where the ABC news was on. (note to self – stop doing that) Bubble head reporter speaking about Rattenbury : “he’ll have to balance his responsibilities as a Minister, with his independence as the sole greens representative.”
Yeah rrriiiiiggghhhtt
● Stop Press : Karina Carvalho Channels the Greens on Carbon Tax
● Can You Bear It: Dee Madigan on the Liberals; Paul Ham Writes to the Emperor of Japan; Elizabeth Harrower and Suburban Roast
● Five Paws Awards: Step Forward Christine Wallace on David Marr & Nicolle Flint on the Handbag Hit Squad
● The Thought of Mark Latham (contd) : From Gillard Attack-Dog to Gillard Guard-Dog
● Nancy on the Couch Talks to Inky on Emily’s List & the Feminist Ascendancy; Ms Gemmell, Ms Woolf & Mr Abbott; Judith Brett’s Lady Macbeth Moment
● News Breakfast Insights: Mohammed El-liessy’s Rants; Dr Burchill’s Shirt-Exchange Offer
● Correspondence: Terry McCrann Documents the Economic and Historical Ignorance of Mr Koukoulas – Defender of the Whitlam Economic Record (Believe it or Not)
STOP PRESS : KARINA CARVALHO (CHANELLING BOB BROWN) V GREG HUNT ON NEWS BREAKFAST THIS MORNING
Quote from my AGL Electricity bill “NSW Governmentestimates that the Federal Carbon Tax and the green energy schemes add about $316 a year to a typical 7MWh household bill-see ipart.nsw.gov.au
This is made up of $168 Carbon tax approx. $3.24cpw.
Green energy burden $148 approx. $2.85cpw.
Total approx. $6.10cpw.
This is $3.99cpw. less than the federal subsidy.
The quote is subtly indicating that it is all the Federal Government’s Fault that my bill has the potential to be 40%-50% more than it was 5 years ago.
Assuming that there are 50000 domestic solar installations in NSW the Green Burden would be about
$81 million per year. Divide this by an assumed 4 million customers the green burden per customer would be approx $20 per year. This would also be covered by the subsidy although that was not it’s intention.
The discovery of a one billion accounting error in the NSW income stream it look like we have been had by the State Liberal government. I hope Mr.Hockey is better with his sums. Gee I hope I’m right. Let me know if I’m not.
The wonders of severe insomnia and deepening depression.
Early this morning I watched “The Big Red One”. It is about Samuel Fuller, a sargent in US First Infantry in WW2. Covers African, Italian, D-Day, and European campaigns. Based on his story. Originally in 1980, I saw the remastered version which is too long. Nonetheless Lee Marvin is brilliant in the role as the sargent, Mark Hamill of Star Wars fame is also very good. Sad and violent at times but immeasurably better than those John Wayne type movies. More down to earth and realistic. Samuel Fuller stated that the only glory in war is surviving. Recommended viewing.
Karina Carvalho. She who professed live on camera to ‘losing her State of Origin cherry’ earlier this year – to embarassed silence from her male co-hosts.
In Gerard’s Media Watchdog the loathsome Mark Latham again has a featuring role as possibly Australia’s biggest hypocrite. He’s had more positions than the Kama Sutra, but media outlets keep paying him to spout his rubbish. Is there such a dearth of talent in this country that this hack keeps getting paid broadcast and print time to share his latest Facebook quality thought-bubble?
Hey Fleeced, honey is also a good healing substance for wounds, as is Paw Paw ointment.
You obviously an active person so keep your feet moisturised, your girlfriends won’t like cracked feet, women look at stuff like that.
News reports on the asylum seeker/country shopper/thin end of da wedge for the west of the famiwy scam have again neglected to mention the unmentionable TPV component of the previously successful coalition border protection policy.
The totally bankrupt ABC had an item tonight with a senior (well, old) Indonesian saying that they’d keep coming despite Nauru and probably Manus. No shit, Sherlock?
Disband the lying, complicit, partisan ABC.
I have to admit, Rabz, that watching him getting into a fight with the block quotes function – and losing – has been hilarious.
When he was but a very small puppy, our Kid the Last’s little white furball got into a fight with a large leaf and also lost. This idiot is as amusing as that but without the cute factor (and without the excuse of being a little puppy).
“Absolutely, Candy. It amazes me why men don’t get a pedicure every six weeks”
For sure, a spot of good male grooming doesn’t go astray. (of course, if a fellow’s a mechanic or similar, he’s going to have a mechanic’s hands, that’s different).
That’s mostly true Max. Look it’s not so difficult, Max and Rabz, to book in with a beautician or beauty therapist for a pedicure. Your feet deserve the pampering; after all, those feet work very hard for us. Once every six weeks is ideal. And if the skin is too thick at the heels, cracked or whatever, see a podiatrist first and get that all sorted. Then get a pedicure every six weeks. Lots of men do this, not just gay men either! Nails trimmed and shaped, rough skin removed and soothing foot massage as the finale. Why would you not want that??!!
There is nothing “girly” about good grooming – and a foot massage to boot!! Last thing a female/male wants is to be scratched by the partners’ rough, cracked heels and/or sharp toe nails. Spoils the romance.
Because I’ve been blessed with a lack of foot problems throughout my life?
I get a bit of “hard heel” in summer when not wearing socks and shoes as often as in winter – and hey, there is nothing more satisfyingly elemental than getting around in bare feet in summer.
The biggest foot problem I’ve suffered in the last god knows how many years was nearly breaking my right big toe trying to belt a volley into goal in a soccer match this winter. But hey, the bruising is nearly all recovered. Bit more hotter weather and it’ll be finally, Adios!
As for the rest – find me an aesthetically pleasing young woman to perform those menial tasks at a reasonable rate and I might consider it!
Can’t very well have smoosshy foot uncovered, and I’m a lazy man, CL. Why waste time wrapping a foot, when I have a handy device (a sock) wot does it for me.
That’s okay – thanks for the help… just seems a bit too girly. Men will already be looking down on me for wearing socks to bed (it’s only temporary guys, I swear!)
I don’t understand the reluctant aw sucks! attitude. You male types can go into a beauty salon/spa and get lots of attention from fine looking women who are qualified in pedicures – and get a foot massage as well!
Mr Talbot’s great-grandfather, English surgeon and botanist Thomas Pennington Lucas, discovered the healing capabilities of the pawpaw upon migrating to Australia in 1876.
“He thought they were doing too many operations in England and he wanted to find an alternative,” Mr Talbot said.
It was in the Sunshine State where he perfected the formula for the fermented papayate ointment.
Well!! Here I am back at the Cat and ready to do battle with things political and economic, and what do I find. Pedicures, home cures, and man cures.
Da Hairy Ape, he who has been talking my head off for an hour since I arrived home, is now playing me Mozart’s clarinet concerto. Second movement, he tells me, is voted every year as UK Classic FM number one. I once likened a female orgasm to a concerto. He tells me I like a good second movement.
Welcome home, Lizzie!!
I am going to take up the clarinet, announces Da Hairy Ape, when I get the time.
One-percenter bikie gangs & crack houses probably offer them out the back now, with sentries posted to keep an eye out for armed para-militarized Fish & Wildlife Enforcement Agents.
Which reminds me: whatever happened to banana passionfruit? It used to grow at our place at Lorne on the surf coast. Can you still find it in Queensland?
Which reminds me: whatever happened to banana passionfruit? It used to grow wild at our place at Lorne on the surf coast. Can you still find it in Queensland?
The Doomlord has spoken, if we ignore him he’ll whither and move on to haunt the next crosswords of the inter-web.
Bit of a syntax problem here Toky I assume you meant to ignore me, not the Dark Lord. It wouldn’t do to wish him ill.
I don’t suppose that anyone has gone through my figures re. the Carbon Tax and the probable effect that it will have on the cost of Fleasy’s Foot cream and cockroach sarnies?
Canb= we get on to Roozendahl? That guy has been scum for ages (and as far as I can see geting clean away with it).
IMHO the past labor state Government in NSW was corrpt from the bottom to the top. Is Barry going after their scalps now? I sincerely hope so
I was saying for years abot Roozendahl being a jerk on the take.
He deserves what he gets – my question is will the slime bag actually get in to trouble or will it be a feather acros the wrist?
Anyone here watching Lateline? That numbnut, Alberici, believes Independents are concerned about ‘marriage’ equality, abortion, and climate. How stupid and ignorant can someone be?
Alice please tell us how you, Alan and phil all know each other….and how you graduated from a class of 3000 commerce students in the 1980s from an Australian university…
FFS, has this flipped into an alternate universe called Better Homes and Gardens for conservatives and libertarians? Facebook for the Toorak Knitting Circle?
Get a grip, please, before you start swapping makeup tips for Young Liberals on the go and the hottest spa of the week.
It’s starting to look like the Sydney Morning Herald/Age website. Next – what Lady Ga Ga Thinks About Fiscal Policy, and Cuticle Care: Should You Tell the ATO the Truth?
Mr Abbott had barely started his lunchtime address to the Economic and Social Outlook Conference in Melbourne when two protesters ran across the stage, saying they looked forward to him explaining climate change as Prime Minister.
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For a few seconds there was farce as Mr Abbott stood mute and security guards cross-crossed the platform chasing the protesters.
“Isn’t it fantastic, ladies and gentlemen, to see undergraduate humour does not change,” Mr Abbott said, laughing off the incident. (Malcolm Farr from the Herald-Sun 2/11/2012)
He likes a bit of a prank does Tony. Especially with student politics involved. But only if HE wins.
Dot its a shame I’m going to bed. I love talking to narrow minded young spoiled phd students normally (NOT).
Poor little Dot doesnt have a past so he seems to have become obsessed with everyone elses past. Strange.
I dont tthink he has much of a future carrying on like this either.
Dot, if this was the Spanish Inquisition you may have landed a plum job with the Catholic Church but these days I cant see much demand for your obvious talents of trying to umm caste doubt on others etc.
Interesting case this boy. Has a strange view on life. im trying to see some use for his skills. There must be something out there that suits him. You might call nits a forensic investigatory style – except, currently, he is wrong too often.
It’s starting to look like teh Silly Moaning Herald/Yaged website. Next – what Lady Ga Ga Thinks About Fiscal Policy, and Cuticle Care: Should You Tell the ATO the Truth?
Alice please tell us how you, Alan and phil all know each other….and how you graduated from a class of 3000 commerce students in the 1980s from an Australian university…
You tell Alice Dorothy, you seem to know everything about every thing.
Why don’t you use that magnificent brain and store bought learnin’ to working on the problem I set on the projected price of Fleasy’s foot cream and carbon unction. I told you I was a basket weaver not a commerce student. Don’t keep falling behind, it irks me so.
I used to know a guy that was a professional photoshopper, he was always sending me updates of his portfolio of work.
He actually said they intentionally take photos with what we would normally consider to be bad lighting ie: they accentuate all the lines and shadows because it made it easier to photoshop.
It’s starting to look like the Sydney Morning Herald/Age website. Next – what Lady Ga Ga Thinks About Fiscal Policy, and Cuticle Care: Should You Tell the ATO the Truth?
Hey, I know those article times, you are talking about those economics articles written by the economics in society graduate Jess Irvine.
She is now writing for the Daily Tele and the FacePalm (Punch).
Wow, not only do Alice and Alan know each other, they also speak the same dialect and make the same insults and Alice still reckons she went to the same made up university.
I cant see that anythibg I have said has led you to produce the numbers you produced. Where did I say I graduated in the 80s Dot. Where did I say it was from a class of 3000 in the 80s. Reproduce the evidence and post it.
For an economist you are very sloppy with the data. Thats a real worry Dot Boy.
I dont think you have much respect for facts either which makes you either
a) a lousy scientist
b) libertarian where anything goes and you make up your own reality
c) very very inexperienced
Just in middle of watching latest Red Dwarf episode (it’s back with a new season, btw), and this made me think of the theme tune, “Goldfish shoals, nibbling at my toes”
Its cold outside, there’s no kind of atmosphere,
I’m all alone, more or less.
Let me fly, far away from here,
Fun, fun, fun, In the sun, sun, sun.
I want to lie, shipwrecked and comotoase,
Drinking fresh, mango juice,
Goldfish shoals, nibbling at my toes,
Fun, fun, fun, In the sun, sun, sun,
Fun, fun, fun, In the sun, sun, sun.
I’ll pack my bags and head into hyperspace
Where I’ll succeed at time-warp speed
Spend my days in ultraviolet rays
Fun, fun, fun, In the sun, sun, sun.
We’ll lock on course straight through the universe
You and me and the galaxy
Reach the stage where hyper-drive’s engaged
Fun, fun, fun, In the sun, sun, sun,
Fun, fun, fun, In the sun, sun, sun.
ever gonna happen, candy. Sounds like New Age, pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo anyway, but even if it isn’t, it’s never gonna happen.
Some honey types have good anti-bacterial qualities and the melittin may also be anti-inflammatory. Paw Paw is odd, long time ago now there was some interest in it for treating some cancers. Don’t know if that was carried through. There are some people who claim that by receiving multiple bee stings it has remarkably reduced their multiple sclerosis systems. Last I heard there is a clinical trial being conducted on this. MS is classified as a inflammatory mediated autoimmune disorder so just perhaps but I doubt it.
Wish those Russians would hurry up with bacteriophage research though, these are very promising ways to treat bacterial infections because they attack bacteria only as a virus. But of course being a natural compound you can’t patent it so it won’t be targeted in the West.
That is inhibits NFkB(don’t ask) is significant because there are currently drugs under development to target this key transcription factor. Not a good idea in my opinion, another wasted research avenue but hey they can make bucks out of it. Not over the long term, only for acute treatments.
Wow, not only do Alice and Alan know each other, they also speak the same dialect”
Gee Alan – I dont actualluy know you and i dont actually think I even read your posts yet but nice to meet you.
Welcome to Dot’s world view. Apparently you and me are part of the same story in Dot’s mind.
Thats a definite worry. Dot doesnt think straight and my bet is he was always in trouble for lying as a kid.
Emma Alberici had a former Republican campaign manager on Lateline.
She obviously knows Romney was ahead significantly on Gallup as she mentioned it.
All Craig McMurtrie the leftist idiot had said as usual is that BO seems bound for victory.
The Republican accurately punctured all the leftist memes including Nate Silver.
He swatted all Emma’s false hopes including Bloomberg endorsement, The effect of Obma wonderful management of the Supoerstorm, Brown is gonna lose in MA, the other loser Repo’s like Akin and Mourdoch etc etc
Still an alternate view was aired on ‘their’ ABC.
I suspect even da ABC realises The One is about to crash and burn
Well, that is something I have been struggling with for some time now. You have a very creative approach to the Taxation Department, Lizzie, admonishes HIA in his professional mode of probity and discernment as he demolishes my list of deductions.
This Department seems to be currently in a state of confusion, up, down, then round about, as Swannie tries to extract every ounce of gold and glitter from a public feeling very after the party. Bin talkin’ to some tax type folks while in Sin City.
All went well, Gab, but flat out busy and drove more than 500 k’s. Hit Maccas twice. Spent a motza. Don’t ask. Back to dance and sing till midnight with Da Hairy Ape, and so to bed. Off to have a bath now, so sweet dreams all.
Lizzie, welcome back, but that was JamesK. And, yes, JamesK, did you notice by the end how exasperated he’d become with her inane questions? I missed his response to Nate Silver. I’ll pick it up from the web in the morning.
Here you are again scratching at the sides of a boat that is sinking…
Dear Dotty, you dont make a good econ phd student to me. You dont sound like one, you dont argue like one. In short you couldnt argue / debate your way out of a wet paper bag and most arguments you attempt end up wit you exploding..
“piss of. Thats bullshit. Its obvious it s bullshit”
I have totally destroyed your made up career, which you made up to try to beat me into submission by an argument from authority after you tried to cuss me into submission after your fuckwitted, loopy ideas were trashed.
Libertarian economist and Nobel Prize winner Milton Friedman would have turned 100 years old last July, and to celebrate his birthday, a new book is out with a series of essays he wrote that few have seen.
“As I was writing my biography of Friedman, I recognized there were a number of his essays that had not been republished that it would be a substantial advantage if they were easily accessible,” economist Lanny Ebenstein, who has written a biography of Friedman, told The Daily Caller about his new book, ”The Indispensable Milton Friedman: Essays on Politics and Economics.”
Dot when did I say I graduated in the 1980s?
The facts are I didnt ever say that because I dodnt graduated in the 1980s.
WEcept Dot I did graduate 11th out of threethousand students with a distinction average. How about a bet Dot?
Put yoir money where your mouth is Put a bet down child.
Jeaoulosuy is a curse, Especially from a poor econ phd student who hasnt got marks like I got and who wasnt working full time when he got them and who relies on someone else to get his phd of rhis uni (liek I didnt).
Dot is jealous. I feel sorry for you too Dot, You have not fought for your living so the rewards come cheaop and you dont work so hard.
I know your type. I teach them every semester., The ones with cushion under their bums are lazier. Thats the way it is.
What are you doing at uni Dot except wasting time?
With your affressive nature you should be out working in the private sector.
Exactly, this is a 2 horse race that is close to 50/50. Then again, it is a warning about how few people look beyond the crap peddled by the lefty media.
As mentioned way above, IMO the only honest NSW government in living memory (and well before) was Nick Greiner’s. His eminence grise (sorry, don’t know how to do the squiggles) was Gary Sturgess, head of the Cabinet Office, creator of ICAC – and a devout Mormon.
Having been around at the time, I can attest that it was a golden era of economic and government reform – with zero tolerance for shonk or sleaze.
I don’t care if Sturgess or Romney wear funny underwear – a good Mormon is a highly ethical being.
Dot dream on..
You honetsly think some lying twenty pkus tear old in Sinclairs blofg is really capable of destroying the made of career of a 50 plus year old.
You stupid boy.
I was living and working my career when you were till in nappies. Are you jealous because Ive been teaching at uni for years?
is that is?
Im sorry the unis wont offer you any permamency without a phd these days. Im sorry they wont support your career or fund yoir studies.
You are the new indentured slave in unis – phd students.
It wasnt always like that Dot but it is now.
Except you arent even a phd econ student are you Dot?
If it fails it’s $8 a week for the next 50 weeks. 2 coffees. And if it succeeds you will have a nice wad of a cash and a big fuck you to rub in lefty faces!
See if I can sneak in!
Eddystone
30 Oct 12 at 6:07 pm
Second?
Mike of Marion
30 Oct 12 at 6:07 pm
Aww, you two.
kae
30 Oct 12 at 6:09 pm
Interesting fight going on in the Queensland Parliament.
kae
30 Oct 12 at 6:10 pm
Pure luck guys.
Eddystone
30 Oct 12 at 6:10 pm
kae I’ve sent you an email.
Eddystone
30 Oct 12 at 6:11 pm
(Reposted from the other thread as Doomlord pulled a swifty on me).
Caddell warns Republican operatives and conservative activists to be wary of a late October surprise (even a November surprise) which could shift momentum toward President Obama if the public is not inoculated now. From Breitbart:
“October Surprises,” real and imagined, have been recurrent in US political history. The term can be thought of two ways: First, it is the simple reality that the unexpected “black swan” can emerge at any time, including on the eve of an election. Second, there’s the more nefarious idea that an incumbent could use the power of his office to affect the election. And such possible abuse by an incumbent has provoked challengers in elections to use the October Surprise phrase preemptively, as a way of warning voters to discount some last-minute bombshell.
Caddell anticipates a move by the Obama administration which could serve such a “nefarious” purpose:
[A] possible US military action against terrorists in Libya. We might first note that the entire Obama narrative on Libya has collapsed, leaving any Obama politico–including the totally political national security adviser, Tom Donilon–understandably desperate to do something to change the Libya story.
The national security expert advising Tea Party Patriots further fleshes out the potential scenario for PJ Tatler in this email:
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 6:12 pm
From the previous thread,
Huckleberry Chunkwot
30 Oct 12 at 6:20 pm
Yes.
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 6:24 pm
…must be ongoing blackmail campaign, I reckon.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 6:27 pm
Righto, ’nuff said.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
30 Oct 12 at 6:29 pm
Tricksy little hobbitses… you tricksed me by starting new a thread.
As I just said on the other one:
I like the idea of TrollDelay for people like sfb.
Unlike Blair’s version of TrollDelay, which simply delays their comments from appearing, mine would also delay the time it took them to see new content. This would prevent them from derailing new threads or discussions as soon as they’re created.
Fleeced
30 Oct 12 at 6:31 pm
I’ve been thinking of going back to school.
nilk
30 Oct 12 at 6:32 pm
Fleeced. I blog on an aviation form (under a different pseudonym) that has an “ignore” function that allows you to never see posts from people that you select. A great feature that would be useful here.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
30 Oct 12 at 6:36 pm
Next conspiracy: Obama organised the Hurricane to boost his election prospects!
Chris
30 Oct 12 at 6:37 pm
formforumHuckleberry Chunkwot
30 Oct 12 at 6:39 pm
Graeme has the good grace to be entertaining as well as nuts.
Mind you that’s probably only true cos all infestations finally are ended.
liar is never entertaining
JamesK
30 Oct 12 at 6:39 pm
Did he? Well, okay if you say so…
*backs away slowly from the lefty nutter and leaves the room making no sudden moves*
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 6:40 pm
rex is gone too.
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 6:41 pm
Thank you, you god!
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 6:42 pm
Heh!
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 6:43 pm
Whatever…keep up with the changing mood, Doomy.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 6:44 pm
Yes, I know. Too slow. I snooze, I lose.
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 6:46 pm
Yee hah, I’m 23rd!
(I’ve always wanted to be up near the top)
Mick Gold Coast QLD
30 Oct 12 at 6:47 pm
Yeah, but then you still see replies…. that’s the problem with blog forums – no threaded discussions, it’s all one thread.
Fleeced
30 Oct 12 at 6:48 pm
Having threaded conversations at the Cat would get very complex very quickly.
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 6:55 pm
Athens Olympic venues 8 years on.
Such a waste.
jumpnmcar
30 Oct 12 at 6:58 pm
Strawberries and cream.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 6:59 pm
The problem is not primarily with the trolls but with the Cats who can’t resist feeding them, as much ‘fun’ as that might be. I guarantee that they would go elsewhere if totally ignored. Doomlord would then only have to deal with those that go beyond the bounds of civility or legality.
Biota
30 Oct 12 at 7:00 pm
What did they expect? Greeks have never liked exercising or they wouldn’t have let the ancient games sites fall in to disrepair.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 7:01 pm
We have serious problems to solve, and we need serious people to solve them here and what does Gab offer?
Mick Gold Coast QLD
30 Oct 12 at 7:07 pm
But they were cute, Mick and we’re approaching Christmas and it’s a great idea for the little ones to prepare.
Besides, serious warriors cannot fight on an empty stomach.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 7:09 pm
Ooooh, that was good! Did Comrade Sleazy Albanesie say that as well Gab? (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/an-oscar-for-albanese-20120125-1qhfr.html)
Mick Gold Coast QLD
30 Oct 12 at 7:13 pm
Has anyone heard about gillard’s latest tax? Apparently it’s a travel tax or travel insurance tax?
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 7:14 pm
… distractedly playing about here as I sit misogynisticically waiting for Mrs Mick to finish cooking and serving me tucker …
Mick Gold Coast QLD
30 Oct 12 at 7:16 pm
I have been reading the Blog for some time, but only recently been work and time free enough to comment.
I am surprised that anybody should be banned around here. This is a place for robust and unfettered exchange. Must be in response to something unspeakable.
But surely good ideas are stronger than bad ideas. We dont have institutional strength, but logic and human behaviour favour us.
For what its worth, I would rather ‘ignore’ Trolls etc, or Leftist provocateurs, banning them makes me uncomfortable – I always like to know something of what they think and exactly where they are coming from.
Jannie
30 Oct 12 at 7:17 pm
Jannie, I’m with you on that. I just ignore our resident trolls and focus on the good stuff, of which there is plenty.
tbh
30 Oct 12 at 7:25 pm
Agree with Jannie..the idiots add a bit of fun..like watching a duck shoot at a pond.
max49
30 Oct 12 at 7:27 pm
A brief report from RT about foreign weaponry in Syria.
Translated and subtitled vid at the link, transcript:
nilk
30 Oct 12 at 7:32 pm
Some people are so tenacious you can see it in their eyes.
jumpnmcar
30 Oct 12 at 7:35 pm
The Gillard rabble considers travellers a cash cow, esecially now they are broke. The rabble already impose the world’s biggest short-haul international travel tax. But they want more:
Tom
30 Oct 12 at 7:36 pm
Hey, anyone got a translation for the Mandarin for the editorial comic in the Oz today?
Another
30 Oct 12 at 7:38 pm
Australia is an unflushed toilet populated by poofs, sheilas and jellyfish.
The moment you leave our shores you waive all access to assistance is my opinion. Don’t like it? Stay the fuck home and hide behind the couch.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 7:39 pm
In the cold light of day I agree with you, it’s just that I get sick and tired of interesting discussion being derailed by the usual suspects.
Also, it’s not that I disagree with them that is the issue.
I mean, I find myself disagreeing with Jarrah quite often, but in the main he argues his point with skill.
There is a massive difference between the likes of Jarrah and fuckwit SfB who just keeps on and on and on with the same irrelevant bullshit every single day.
I am not a massive commenter here as I believe in not opening my trap unless I have something to contribute to the conversation. I am also no great economist, however I enjoy visiting here regularly, not just for entertainment but to learn a little as well.
I am not too proud to admit to learning from the likes of Jarrah, but God forbid, the day that SfB contributes something that is worthwhile learning is the day that I will just give up.
Nah, what am I talking about? That day will never, ever come.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
30 Oct 12 at 7:40 pm
I need to get both of my passports renewed, but the Oz one costs double the US one already.
They want to charge more??
nilk
30 Oct 12 at 7:47 pm
Banning AngryIrish I can understand, but I didn’t think rex was particularly a troll. Snarky, yes. Very. But disagreements keep the place interesting.
If you keep banning leftwingers, there will be no-one left to argue with except Steve from Brisbane, and how much fun would that be?
dd
30 Oct 12 at 7:47 pm
Pickering’s Take
Septimus
30 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
If you keep banning leftwingers, there will be no-one left to argue with except Steve from Brisbane, and how much fun would that be?
Still have not banned me. I suppose I’ll have to play asshole more often.
Dead Soul
30 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
You lucky bugger!
Mrs Eddystone is at work.
I have to get my own tea!!!
Eddystone
30 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
Did someone say Australia has no money for diplomats?
We seem to have the money for new embassies in Senegal and a whopper in Jakarta.
Somewhere for {unelected} Bob Carr and his wifey to do our bidding no doubt.
jumpnmcar
30 Oct 12 at 7:52 pm
Dogshit’s only purpose in coming here is to pick fights. He is the archetypal definition of a troll. Doomlord kills trolls for exactly that reason. But dogshit is untouchable; apparently he is Doomlord’s deformed, retarded, unemployed offspring and DL just can’t bring himself to do it because the idiot child has no other life and needs the money.
Tom
30 Oct 12 at 7:53 pm
There’s a difference between trolls (whose purpose is to harrass, disrupt, and generally make a nuisance) and contrarians (e.g., people who love Greens policies and think the ABC is too right wing).
I love a good argument, and frankly a lot of the time,a lively debate gets triggered because some leftwinger turned up, guns blazing.
dd
30 Oct 12 at 7:54 pm
DRUDGE:
GALLUP: ROMNEY UP 52%-45% AMONG EARLY VOTERS…
C.L.
30 Oct 12 at 7:55 pm
how are the New York cats? Has anyone heard today. (sorry, can’t remember who was NY but ….)
I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a Romney win!
sorry if this has been mentioned but if you missed Michael Smith on Sri Lankan news reporting on the AWU scandal catch it here http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/10/sri-lankas-mtv-english-language-news-service-news-first-ran-a-lengthy-story-last-night-on-the-awu-sc.html
val majkus
30 Oct 12 at 8:00 pm
You’re kidding. Wow.
This is not only going to be an avalanche, it’s going to be an avalanche that takes half the country by surprise. A recent poll found that a whopping 92 percent of Obama supporters believe Obama will win.
dd
30 Oct 12 at 8:01 pm
I actually wish there were more skillful leftwingers here and more Jarrah’s. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this forum should be a cauldron of ideas and they should each be tested to their limits. I don’t want to be told I’m right I want to know I’m right
Jeremiah
30 Oct 12 at 8:01 pm
“Abbott needs to get on the front foot, grab the agenda, forget his opponent is a woman and start hitting her where it hurts. ”
They’re walking all over Tony Abbott. I can’t understand why he’s lost his nerve.
candy
30 Oct 12 at 8:02 pm
dd
And i love witnessing a good argument, but between two folk that are honestly debating, Sfb is rarely honest.
jumpnmcar
30 Oct 12 at 8:04 pm
Well, it isn’t really about StevefB anyway, because Sinc pretty much said earlier that Steve isn’t getting banned, period.
dd
30 Oct 12 at 8:07 pm
Hey people, Steve from Brisbane is OK. It is good for a laugh. For example, I was under the pump today, and cursing, but Steve’s fantastic (in the dictionary sense) confidence in the stuff he was cut-and-pasting about the linkage between hurricanes and extreme weather and evil Coalition voters driving SUVs (and their equivalents in other developed nations) was deadset farking hilarious. I for one thank him for the laughs.
James in Melbourne
30 Oct 12 at 8:11 pm
Romney stole the election.
.
30 Oct 12 at 8:11 pm
Steve from Brisbane once gave CL, Dover and myself a free character assessment:
http://opiniondominion.blogspot.com.au/2011/04/cowardice-and-catallaxy.html
It’s rather funny and reason enough not to ban him. Although I’d be genuinely worried if I was CL.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 8:12 pm
Then a liar we must put up with then. House rule and all that.
But ffs he says he voted for Howard in every election and that the right is moving away from him!!
I don’t remember Howard going to an election on gay marriage and abortion on demand.
jumpnmcar
30 Oct 12 at 8:14 pm
Ban anyone who abuses this forum! To visit a conservative forum and make annoying comments without even attempting to present a valid argument is an abuse of the forum
roger
30 Oct 12 at 8:16 pm
It’s the invulnerability that makes SfB so audacious in his trollery.
Angryirish was way better value.
As to there being some sort of admirable purity in not banning mega-annoying deadshits, I can’t see it.
Hair shirts are part of the uniform here.
blogstrop
30 Oct 12 at 8:19 pm
Very Larvatus Prodeo here tonight.
Let’s talk about ourselves.
C.L.
30 Oct 12 at 8:20 pm
It doesn’t mean anything.
As usual, Kudelka is full of crap.
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:21 pm
It is a waste, he once was an asset to have around (and to make fun of when he went Leftard).
________________
I thought Sinc kept you and Grigory around to wind up Abu. He really has a thing for you John.
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:23 pm
You’re wrong about that you know…
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:27 pm
Dear Diary,
Today CL said this, the brute, and then he said that. And then CL went on to say the other. Hurrmmpf! I so hate CL and his Koran burning ways.
I can’t wait to see what CL will say tomorrow.
Night, Dear Diary.
SFB.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 8:27 pm
Being distracted all the time by these idiots is not fun.
blogstrop
30 Oct 12 at 8:27 pm
Not quite – people don’t get banned until they thread wreck. People who are banned stay banned. So while it looks like a large number are getting banned it is mostly the same individuals coming back over and over.
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 8:28 pm
Steve from Brisbane once gave CL, Dover and myself a free character assessment
Physician, Heal Thyself.
dover_beach
30 Oct 12 at 8:29 pm
oh, yes – what CL said. Let’s not talk about ourselves when there are so many others to slag off.
On that note, Mrs D and I are off the celebrate 16 years of companionship. Champers all round, oysters, champers, tampas, champers …
Sinclair Davidson
30 Oct 12 at 8:31 pm
If SfB hasn’t been deemed to thread wreck so far, what hope is there?
Oh, well, book time beckons. Goodnight.
blogstrop
30 Oct 12 at 8:31 pm
Exactly.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 8:32 pm
A new Dem ad
Produced by Michael Moore.
Very classy.
FMD.
Rudiau
30 Oct 12 at 8:32 pm
Congratulations to you and Mrs Doomlord.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 8:35 pm
Damn. Birdie was here and I missed it
Cato the Elder
30 Oct 12 at 8:35 pm
Reminds me of the story my mates told me about Brunei where they would drink & jam at the pub owned by the chief of police…
Did anyone spot a fortune teller out back?
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:37 pm
x2
So, you didn’t make it clear, are you going to make it a real celebration and have some champers?
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:38 pm
They’re already preparing for defeat.
The message of this ad is that if Romney wins, it will be because the GOP cheated.
dd
30 Oct 12 at 8:38 pm
AngryIrish is still going strong over here if you need to see the bird-strike in action.
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:40 pm
Eisenhower on his first inaugural parade. That’s a Cadillac Eldorado — note the wrap-around windscreen. a sensational development at the time.
It’s irrelevant to this discussion I know, but it’s a great website.
manalive
30 Oct 12 at 8:42 pm
See? You don’t get folks like that around here much and when they do pop in we must cherish their contribution to humanity’s knowledge base.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 8:43 pm
Congratulations Dr and Mrs Snic.
Enjoy!
C.L.
30 Oct 12 at 8:47 pm
Once again Chris is on the ball.
Token
30 Oct 12 at 8:48 pm
Thanks Token, I might wonder over and see how the other half are gibbering.
Cato the Elder
30 Oct 12 at 9:00 pm
pfft, that’s nothin, I bin wrong for 23 years.
jumpnmcar
30 Oct 12 at 9:03 pm
The Telegraph (UK) really had a ripper of a day:
Takes one to know one…
Token
30 Oct 12 at 9:05 pm
James Taranto is always a great read at the NYT. Here he does a bit of riffing like my old favourite Cut & Paste:
Token
30 Oct 12 at 9:15 pm
Mischievous bastard!
John is one of the better contributors when it comes to ridiculing religious hokum.
But I also find his intellectual grandstanding and contempt of the Yartz amusing, especially when he throws down a statement that he rarely comes here because the intellectual levels are beneath him and then people queue up to prove to him that they are worthy.
Good times, good times.
On Grigory, I am certain Sink allows her to post here because she shuts me to tears. (The lack of any humor in Grigory’s posts is proof she is a woman. The other women here are witty, but G matches the cliche that most have no sense of humor, and no need of one per Hitchens’ famous Slate article.)
Abu Chowdah
30 Oct 12 at 9:20 pm
Shuts. It’s a New Zealand colloquialism.
Abu Chowdah
30 Oct 12 at 9:22 pm
Scott Morrison delivers a blistering presser. And the finale:
I only wish I had a video of it.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 9:22 pm
A few more gems from Taranto:
Token
30 Oct 12 at 9:23 pm
If he delays Friday’s unemployment numbers then this will be true.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 9:24 pm
oh for goodness’ sake, Abu. Grigory’s work is not targeted as funny most of the time. That’s on purpose. They’re statements. If you don’t like his work, fair enough, don’t click on the freaking link. You can do that surely?
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 9:25 pm
That’s a relief.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 9:27 pm
F*ck ya IT.
Beer in lap this time.
Rudiau
30 Oct 12 at 9:29 pm
Gab. I don’t.
I did, and realized it was shit, so stopped. Long ago.
My memory of the experience allows me to recollect how unfunny it was and make an informed comment. Your comments on your recent experiences confirm my view and so I won’t be revisiting my decision.
But when someone mentions me in connection to Grigory, I will respond.
By the way, despite your blind spot for the G man, you are one of the wittier posters here. Irony, no?
Abu Chowdah
30 Oct 12 at 9:30 pm
Could I recommend excellent viewing tonight of Insight (Jenny Brockie) re Syria.
hzhousewife
30 Oct 12 at 9:30 pm
Mrs D and I are off the celebrate 16 years of companionship. Champers all round, oysters, champers, tampas, champers …
tampas?
You are going to eat a cargo ship?
Leigh Lowe
30 Oct 12 at 9:31 pm
Well done Sinc.
What is the secret?
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 9:33 pm
Don’t you go using that reasonable tone with me when I’m all a-fighting and a-huffing, you…you..male!
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 9:38 pm
I do hope one of the blogs owners does a bit on the attempt by Labor to excise the coast of Australia.
Yes, that Labor Party that carried on for 6 years about how they could not vote for such a plan in good conscience (yet did vote for a plan which has killed at least 1,000 people).
Token
30 Oct 12 at 9:39 pm
Morrison was just excellent. He didn’t skip a beat. Very impressed with him.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 9:41 pm
He really has a thing for you John.
Nah, it is just that my interests these days have moved from politics and economics so I throw out different stuff I am exploring but most people here aren’t interested in that. That’s Ok. I’m sick of the same ol same ol though. I originally came here hoping to find people approaching political and economic issues differently but now it is mainly a rehashing of the conservative position. At my age you get tired of the same old stuff. I want to be surprised by what people are putting forward and that used to happen here. I did learn a lot for a few years when I came here but I’m not seeing anything new now. I am not interested in what has been politically and economically because it think so much of that is done. We need complete transformations of political and economic structures and that is what needs much more exploration, not wasting our time pointing out that those people over there are evil and stupid; that theme has become too predominant here. I will treat with contempt.
Dead Soul
30 Oct 12 at 9:44 pm
“Morrison was just excellent. He didn’t skip a beat. Very impressed with him”
Gab, all too late, I think. Ms Gillard has cowed Tony Abbott and the coalition completely, what wimps they’re turning into. People respect strength.
candy
30 Oct 12 at 9:46 pm
Interesting City Journal piece on how the Jews in the US deluded themselves into thinking FDR was their champion:
Token
30 Oct 12 at 9:49 pm
That Dem ad by Michael Moore was probably focussed grouped in an alternate universe to the one I live in. That was offensive to me and other people who are caring for the elderly.
That might be another ‘own goal’ from the Democrat camp.
Thumbnail
30 Oct 12 at 9:50 pm
A few more favourable Newspolls for Labor and it’s all over red rover for the Coalition.
What people are seeing is policies for NDIS, dentist scheme, education improvements etc etc. They don’t see there’s no money and increasing debt, and don’t see restriction of freedom of the media, or increasing welfare burden.
The Coaliton have disappeared somewhere in a puff of smoke.
candy
30 Oct 12 at 9:54 pm
Congratulations, Sinc and Mrs D.
dover_beach
30 Oct 12 at 10:03 pm
Wow. That Michael Moore ad is truly disgusting.
I’d wash those old coots mouths out with kerosene.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 10:05 pm
Happy anniversary to Sinc and Mrs. Sinc.
A bit of MLP just for you.
nilk
30 Oct 12 at 10:05 pm
Champers all round,
Sinc
May interest you
Seems intelligent people are alcohol drinkers
http://news.discovery.com/human/do-intelligent-people-drink-more-alcohol.html
blind freddy
30 Oct 12 at 10:06 pm
Agree on the Michael Moore ad. The sentiments, the language are all straight out of high school, and the crap about the Repubs stealing the election?
I’m hearing a bit of projection there.
nilk
30 Oct 12 at 10:07 pm
Were you part of the team in the dark days when Turnbull tried to merge the Libs with the Greens?
Token
30 Oct 12 at 10:09 pm
From the last fred:
Oi, looks familiar…
sdog
30 Oct 12 at 10:12 pm
Yes, that Moore ad is just weird. They really have become juvenile and vulgar. He’s another example, Whedon on Romney.
dover_beach
30 Oct 12 at 10:18 pm
The bird is banned? Well, I never!
cohenite
30 Oct 12 at 10:18 pm
Minorcan conch chowder followed by conch fritters with key lime wasabi mayo.
Outstanding.
sdog
30 Oct 12 at 10:18 pm
To some extent I agree Candy and argued the point last night here..
max49
30 Oct 12 at 10:20 pm
Well I disagree with Candy. People vote on things that directly affect them not on whether Abbott is a misogynist. Gillard has used the wrong tactic. It is a short term tactic at best and should have been saved for the next election. People care about their power bill, cost of living, petrol prices, taxes, jobs. That is what will determine their vote.
Another thing. Who bases their vote on a news poll? No one. Be suspicious. If that news poll were correct Gillard would have called an election. Essential didn’t move and neither did Nielson.
Dianeh
30 Oct 12 at 10:28 pm
Cartoon
Michael Ramirez.
Sums up the MSM.
Rudiau
30 Oct 12 at 10:28 pm
Diane, I tend to agree. Now that the ALP have trotted out the misogyny line, what else do they have? If they go with it again I would expect the push back to be fierce. Not from Abbott, but from the women who surround him.
The opposition have so much ammunition on this bunch of scumbags (I’ve never said that about any government federally before) that they’ll never run out of material.
tbh
30 Oct 12 at 10:31 pm
Conch like the meat out of the big shell?
Ooh Honey Honey
30 Oct 12 at 10:31 pm
Oh my god, they look good!
Ooh Honey Honey
30 Oct 12 at 10:33 pm
Florida crown conchs, OHH.
sdog
30 Oct 12 at 10:35 pm
I had never had a key lime/wasabi sauce before. Exceptional taste combo but.
sdog
30 Oct 12 at 10:37 pm
Abbott is playing a long game.
He destroyed Rudd. Gillard did not.
He took a first term government into a minority government – hasn’t been done in modern times.
He is maintaining his dignity.
His recent interviews have been good.
Do you want him to come out foaming at the mouth and full of hatred like Labor?
A few strange Newspolls does not a summer make. (or some other weird saying I have mangled).
The Coalition need to throw out a few TV ads early, like they did to Kevin (aka Kevin O’lemon).
A simple ad which shows Liberals in power with budget deficits / Cth debt per year, then Labor.
Another showing electricity price rises.
Nothing too dramatic – just some facts for people to stew over.
Start building on their economic mismanagement.
Economy is stagnant – prices rising but not wages – employers squeezing – all will come home to roost.
No need to panic.
Just work harder.
pete m
30 Oct 12 at 10:38 pm
Funny little 44 second video demonstrating how to yell at kids.
Would have been better if he’d bayoneted the little bugger.
boy on a bike
30 Oct 12 at 10:39 pm
Im not talking polls.tbh is correct re the ammo that the libs have and the old time oppositions would have had blood on the floor with what they have…but its not happening.
max49
30 Oct 12 at 10:40 pm
Seems intelligent people are alcohol drinkers
Intelligent people use more drugs generally. Intelligence makes people susceptible to drug use; though not drug abuse. A recent news release claimed that even mild drinking slows the growth of new neurons. As it turns out this effect on neurogenesis was noted nearly a decade ago. The last thing an aging brain needs is reduced neurogenesis. There are now some studies showing that contrary to the old fashioned notion that cognitive decline is inevitable with age some people do demonstrate remarkable preservation of cognition. Even more strangely, some of these people can have very high loads of amyloid, the protein which is implicated in dementias.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/study-even-moderate-drinking-impairs-brain-cell-formation/264129/#
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-2/197-204.htm
http://www.pnas.org/content/107/24/11104.full
Dead Soul
30 Oct 12 at 10:41 pm
Come on! Who can possibly believe the 50/50 story? just not possible!
That sort of figure would have us believe hundreds of thousands of people changed their minds, basically overnight, and suddenly discovered Labor were really OK after all.
I’m sticking with Essential Medias poll which shows Labor lost a point and are now at 46 with LNP on 54.
Winnedge
30 Oct 12 at 10:41 pm
Token 8:40
He really is obsessed! And cuts and pastes his comments (and those of others) on his blog.
Chemtrails? Weather machines?
The man is truly in need of help!
kae
30 Oct 12 at 10:52 pm
Kids don’t know what to do when confronted with real shock and awe
______________________
Though this video takes 7 min (too long), this is the type of video the Libs should make. Hold out Gillard & Swan’s promises in words and highlight the failure.
It graphically details the size of the defecit a way that jumps out at the viewer.
Bolta has been compiling a list of broken election promises they can work with.
Token
30 Oct 12 at 10:55 pm
Is it me or is the fact that John singleton’s property was burnt down and NSW police said it was a “suspicious fire” ringing any bells?
So John Singleton owns 2GB radio station. A lynch mob, lead by some nice union activist types set up “Destroy the Joint” and some rather nasty types think it is cool to attack businesses that advertise on 2GB in an attempt to shut Alan Jones up.
And then Singleton’s property is burnt down?
Destroy the Joint?
(As an aside, I commented on Destroy the Joint FB, merely pointing out that Gillard had put feminism back 20 years by her using it as a battering ram. I was blocked of course, but then within a few hours my Facebook Page with 6000 was strangely de-activated and now I cannot use it. That is what they do to anyone who makes a statement they don’t like. steve from brisbane and others should count themselves very lucky that the Cat and other similar sites are far more tolerant of dissent than his mates) And if anyone has any advise as to how to get my FB site back…..bastards!
Winnedge
30 Oct 12 at 11:04 pm
Hahaha,
Thompson threatens to sue HSU member (Hart).
Hart to Thompson : “sue me”
This is just so funny.
Keith
30 Oct 12 at 11:11 pm
Sue, Tommo!
Sue!
C.L.
30 Oct 12 at 11:16 pm
Hey, you’ve developed an Aussie accent!
kae
30 Oct 12 at 11:27 pm
The unfavourable polls are not about winning the election, neither are the attacks on Abbot. They are about undermining Abbots leadership by driving his approval ratings into the toilet. It’s highly unfashionable to like Abbott now.
But its’ still a secret ballot, so the 2PP will walk in, barring any disaster.
The Labor strategy clearly has been to attack Abbot in the hope that the party replaces him with Rudd-Lite, Turnbull, who they already know to be an ineffectual leader who presided over terrible polling.
So they don’t think the attacks will win them the election – that’s what all this Asian century garbage is for – the attacks are to try and get the opposition leader replaced.
brc
30 Oct 12 at 11:29 pm
My grandmother lived to 100 and had remarkable clarity and recall right up until the end. She could tell you every single child, grandchild and great-grandchilds name, age and birthday. She still did the crossword in the paper every day and could recall in great detail things that happened back in the 1920s and 30s.
Never drank a drop of alcohol in her entire life apparently.
brc
30 Oct 12 at 11:32 pm
Quoted for truth.
The internet pop-left are unapologetic fascists, not even wee little mini fascists but full blown oozing out into the real world more and more ban and silence everyone and everything fascists.
Interestingly they mostly sit to the right of full blown commies (and heap mockery on them) and are almost all 20-40 something white collar professionals.
It’s a bit of a worry.
twostix
30 Oct 12 at 11:36 pm
brc,
As Abbott was elected as party leader unopposed, by definition any change in party support for the leader can only be in a downwards direction. IF this occurs watch the msm beat it up into a frankenstorm.
More likely however, is for the Oz to ditch Newspoll as a reliable gauge. Newspoll rallied to the “cause” during the Rudd challenge in February, delivering Gillard a handy rogue poll. Their polls have been erratic ever since.
Keith
30 Oct 12 at 11:40 pm
In Tasmania in 2004 I heard a lady tour guide tell a group of Americans that people from NSW always finish their sentences with but.
Septimus
30 Oct 12 at 11:44 pm
Septimus, that’s not right.
Certainly a wrong idea, a generalisation. Some people might do it but.
kae
30 Oct 12 at 11:45 pm
Labor has to go. But I saw the strangest thing earlier tonight on The Drum, caught flipping through channels. One complained about Abbott being aggressive and then Reith popped up and asked about Gillard’s infamous speech which was aggressive. The response: not aggressive, forthright. Bloody hell! Someone contact the Macquarie Dictionary.
Dead Soul
30 Oct 12 at 11:47 pm
I think Kevin rudd would agree gillard is aggressive. A bully even.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 11:49 pm
Winnedge, it’s a coincidence.
A house belonging to the owner of radio station 2GB got burned to the ground.
The fact that an anti-2GB website is called Destroy the Joint is an unfortunate and regrettable coincidence. I’m sure they weren’t encouraging anyone to actually “destroy the joint” with their choice of name. Please draw no conclusions.
dd
30 Oct 12 at 11:50 pm
Replacing Abbott who still commands a 30%+ personal approval rating despite the never before seen smear campaign against him with Turnbull who had a historically low 14% approval rating despite in comparison being loved up by the media would be so stupid, so insanely ridiculous that I’d almost consider voting for Gillard just to punish the dumbshit Liberals if they ever did such a thing.
Fortunately nobody outside of Labor is that stupid and Abbott being in “trouble” is a fake rumour pushed by ALP luvvies and Turnbull himself.
twostix
30 Oct 12 at 11:50 pm
Fixed, but.
Tom
30 Oct 12 at 11:52 pm
I have spent more years of my life in Australia than I have in America, at this point. My vocab/speech patterns tend to be a bit hybridized. Yay for multiculturalism
sdog
30 Oct 12 at 11:53 pm
Tom
Naaah.
Its generalised that Queenslanders say aye at the end of most sentences. I’ve lived here for 20 years and I don’t think that’s quite right, aye.
kae
30 Oct 12 at 11:54 pm
Tom nails it. Townsville was my first home in Australia – I expect that’s where I picked that one up.
sdog
30 Oct 12 at 11:56 pm
A Malaysian PhD student at work has children who all now talk like Aussies.
We joked the other day that noone at home would be able to understand them when they got home. She said they’ve picked up some Australian things, manners, which won’t fit in at home!
kae
30 Oct 12 at 11:57 pm
I think, sdog, it’s a pacific accent, aye.
Entropy
30 Oct 12 at 11:57 pm
The Socialist Alliance Destroy the Joint, to give it it’s full name. But yeah, no, they aren’t politically motivated.
On the other hand, and by no means a segueway but, this is hilarious.
Gab
30 Oct 12 at 11:58 pm
The one thing I’ve noticed that Asian immigrants pick up very quickly upon moving to this big brown toilet is saying “no worries”.
Infidel Tiger
30 Oct 12 at 11:59 pm
You’re right, Kae, aye. I’d forgotten about aye.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 12:03 am
In Tasmania about three years ago, someone called me cobber. Cobber! I didn’t know that word was still around.
Dangph
31 Oct 12 at 12:04 am
I love Vietnamese folks. Bring em in by the boatload, I say. Most Christians, they start off doing shit jobs and own their own homes and flash cars in half a generation. They dress well, their children are obedient, they respect their elders, they hate government and their women are pretty.
Naturally, Gough Whitlam hated their guts.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:06 am
Spot on, IT. My local shop is run by a bloke from Shanghai. He’s a ripper. Mad Shinboners fan. Salt of the earth.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 12:07 am
I think that’s an Australian thing, too. “Yeah no.” Don’t hear it much overseas.
dd
31 Oct 12 at 12:07 am
The two TV ads the Coalition need to make are:
1. Ken Wyatt on corruption (‘surely, it’s beneath our dignity as a nation’); and,
2. Wyatt Roy on debt (‘what have you left my generation with for all this debt’, filmed in front of this.)
2dogs
31 Oct 12 at 12:08 am
Bad news for Gillard’s lezo war on men:
75 percent of Australian women say they’ve never been sexually harrassed.
The Guardian spins it the only way they can.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:09 am
When Danny Frawley got the sack as Richmond coach, the headline in the Herald-Sun was: YEAH, NAH, his signature self-caricature.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 12:10 am
dd
It’s a pommy thing.
kae
31 Oct 12 at 12:11 am
GOOD GOD.
Meat Loaf butchers song during Romney event.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:14 am
The thing with Abbott is that the more I know about him, the more I like about him. The guy is actually remarkable in terms of what he’s achieved personally in his life. I can’t actually think of anyone else in Parliament that even comes close.
During the last election the public really warmed to the guy when he was given more of a chance to open up. The exact opposite happened with Gillard, I still remember that first town hall debate where she got people to raise their hands like school kids while Abbott was cheered when he said he “wanted to be on the same level with the people”.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 12:16 am
Same sort of thing with the kids of a Chinese engineer I knew in Rocket City. The youngest girl especially spoke English with the cutest Southern accent.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 12:21 am
Well Jeremiah, Gillard’s conversion to John Howard’s EXACT border policy is certainly the time to go hard against the Lying Rodent. That would resonate with the public – who have always been in on the ‘joke’ of Labor claiming they knew better than Howard. Abbott needs to DEMAND that Gillard apologise for what she has done, being party to a negligence that has caused 1000 deaths and the bleeding of billions of dollars. He needs to GET ANGRY in making this demand and pursue it for longer than a news cycle. He should call Gillard a COWARD for trashing Howard and for not saying sorry.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:21 am
The Daily Telegraph rounds up some old quotes…
Backflip on asylum zone as Labor adopts John Howard exclusion policy.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:23 am
The best thing about Gillard’s change of mind on the borders is that it was all over the news bulletins today!
Maybe they’re taking notice?
Ahh, who am I kidding?
kae
31 Oct 12 at 12:25 am
TA’s major problem is that he looks and sounds like someone who is desperate not to make mistakes. As a result, he’s making mistakes because he doesn’t trust himself. He needs to relax a little — easier said than done when the fuckwit MSM are socialists who hate his guts.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 12:25 am
With Gillard and her enablers in their full shrieking-harpy misandric mode, any full-bottle attack on her is not a hill Tony Abbott should choose to fight and die on. Let him wait for it to cool down a bit, at least until the US election fuss is over.
With any luck, Romney will win and Gillard will be forced to deal with the only man on earth who is (in ALP eyes) worse than Abbott. With any luck, that will cause some major brain detonations in Labor/Greens land and cause their standing in the general community to drop even lower. At this stage, they are doing a nice job destroying themselves and are potentially about to do an even better one; Abbott should leave them to it.
perturbed
31 Oct 12 at 12:26 am
The ABC tonight ran the 2006 Bowen comments with glee. After all, they represent the Greens.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 12:28 am
The thing with Abbott is that the more I know about him, the more I like about him.
As a person Abbott must be held in high regard. The problem for him is as I highlighted in my earlier post, it is too easy to paint a man, particularly an athletic one like Abbott, as being “aggressive”. The example from The Drum illustrates how the media can control the perceptions. Abbott and the coalition need to be aggressive not only with the ALP but moreso with the media in general. They need to pluck the chooks but instead they feed the chooks with those silly media appearances and sound bytes. The coalition needs to show some courage, come out against the cheapening of political debate instead of promoting it. Perhaps I am expecting too much from the Australian public but one big reason I am sick of politics is because it has shifted so far from reasoned debate and analysis. The problem is not unique to Australia but that is no excuse. My heuristic here is very simple: the best progress in ideas occurs when participants submit to certain standards of behavior and debate. That is why I avoid a lot of political debate, it has become debased and I don’t want to feed that.
If Abbott’s behavior over the last few months is any indication I think he has been advised to tone down the aggression. But he has not filled that void.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 12:28 am
Thanks for posting the information on the new travel tax, Tom.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 12:29 am
Agree C.L. their boats policy is the greatest “I told you so” event in recent political history and should be used as a cudgel to beat over the heads of every Labor politician that had anything to do with it!
My only concern is that the public only has so much stomach for triumphalism. I remember one of the tricks that Bruce Hawker pulled during the 07 election was to drive a truck around with Howards picture and the line “Australians have never had it so good” apparently the truck had all kinds of crap thrown at it during its rounds.
Remember that the key to Howards success was that he was seen as the wise elderly statesman, a safe pair of hands and a cool head. The Coalition need to emulate that again.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 12:29 am
Tom
I was truly shocked when I saw it leading the news bulletin!!
They said that something that was totally unacceptable to them six years ago was suddenly acceptable and had a go, that’s why I was shocked.
Okay, mildly surprised. We’ll see if it keeps up.
kae
31 Oct 12 at 12:30 am
So, JC off the grid now?
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 12:35 am
Agree with you on that Dead Soul, I think the Coalition need to rise above the ruckus somehow but still deliver the punches. It is admittedly a very difficult balancing act. I think Morisson gets the balance quite right in most cases, I even suspect that he commands quite a bit of respect from Labor, they don’t seem to go in as hard on him as the others.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 12:36 am
Look, it’s a golden moment – now.
Note above the morally hefty abuse words they used against Howard.
Lunacy, racism, xenophobia, abhorrent, indecent….
Hook these up to misogynist and rinse/repeat: “They’ll say anything.”
Knock knock – hello? Anyone at home in Abbott’s office?
Get off your arse.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:37 am
I see I have been mentioned in dispatches quite a lot in my absence tonight (for reasons involving candles, priests and lamingtons).
It’s been an odd day of unusual, if temporary, alliances: RL to my defence this morning; the competition between me and Abu as to who finds Gigory the most intensely annoying and weird contributor this side of the moon; IT coming yet again to my defence against the relatively recent horde of ban seeking, anger management escapees from Bolt’s blog despite the really long personality assessment.
One day, I’ll be satisfied that someone here has been genuinely converted to climate change action by virtue of my persistent efforts, and then I may go. Or alternatively, he or she will join with me in double effort to make more conversions. Hard to say what would happen…
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 12:39 am
The term “cargo cult” springs to mind when I look at the ALP’s current asylum seeker policy.
The ALP sees that its current policy isn’t working, but is aware that there used to be in place a policy which did work.
So, they seem to be trying things which look like what the old Coalition policy used to be, in the hope of recreating the success. So, we get the Nauru reopening, ’cause that’s what Howard did. And now the territory excise, ’cause Howard did that, too.
But there appears to be no understanding of why these policies worked, and they are implemented in a haphazard way that is doomed to failure.
Cargo cult. It may look like Howard’s policy, but it’s not going to work like Howard’s policy.
So here’s the tip for Bowen: it was the TPV’s. Everything else was an add-on. The main thing was the TPV’s.
2dogs
31 Oct 12 at 12:42 am
DS, you’ve nailed it in terms of the cheapening of political debate in this country. I won’t talk politics in most places other than the Cat because. And most of the time not even here.
I never was a fan of Abbott, but I have to say that I’ve warmed to him a lot more in the last year or two.
tbh
31 Oct 12 at 12:43 am
because of it
tbh
31 Oct 12 at 12:43 am
Note above the morally hefty abuse words they used against Howard.
I can’t remember CL but my impression was that Howard’s response was more in line with Jeremiah’s description of his behavior. If people want a display of strength then consider that not biting back but staying on subject,. talking about policy and not demonising the other is a better strategy. While that may not work in the short term it sure as hell impresses people over the long term. It would also completely undercut a primary strategy of the ALP because if you keep shouting and your opponent stays cool guess who looks the fool?
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 12:43 am
Thank you, DS, I tried to tell them last night but they just wouldn’t have a bar of it.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 12:45 am
I’ll be satisfied that someone here has been genuinely converted to climate change action by virtue of my persistent efforts, and then I may go.
Dude I accept AGW what I don’t accept is the proposed solutions. I’m quite happy to side with the series of papers published by the Royal Society(2007?) which argued that geoengineering is the only plausible approach. I won’t raise the issue here because this forum already has a consensus that AGW is a vast conspiracy. Got better things to do than knock against brick walls.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 12:53 am
Pickering’s got a classic Pickering calendar out for 2013.
Get yours: 25 bucks.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 12:59 am
Pickering’s latest is a classic.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:01 am
Dude I accept AGW what I don’t accept is the proposed solutions.
You seem to be sort-of in Bjorn Lomborg’s camp. I’ve got a lot of time for the man, because despite his warmist position he’s all for doing things that will actually make a huge difference (in lives saved and poverty averted) at reasonable cost, rather than blow huge sums of money on feel-good stuff that will do almost fuck-all better at ten times the cost.
Yes, he’s an AGW proponent, but he’s calling governments like Australia’s on their bullshit. I can live with guys like that.
perturbed
31 Oct 12 at 1:04 am
You are no different – and no less annoying – than any other happy-clapping proselytizing evangelical religious zealot, desperately devoting all your waking hours to the conversion of souls to your faith.
You see your life’s calling as making your pious and pure; others see you as an abject loud-talking self-agrandizing wanker.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 1:05 am
perturbed, put me more or less in the Lomborg camp too. He understands cost/benefit and has decided that alleviating poverty and promoting prosperity is a good way to also protect the environment. I’m in agreement with that.
tbh
31 Oct 12 at 1:10 am
SfB: If you were a proselytizing evangelical Southern Pentecostal spending all your waking hours on blogs devoted to secular atheism, franctically trying to convert the ‘lost souls’ therein, you would be fighting no less of a losing battle and you would earn no less contempt from the participants in the blog converstions you were injecting yourself into.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 1:11 am
Bjorn Lomberg’s measures are not in favour of the UN and Socialist governments because they can’t use his arguments to bring in re-distributive CO2 “taxes” to further their Agenda 21. There’s nothing in it for the carpetbaggers, big statists and UN bureaucrats.
Cold-Hands
31 Oct 12 at 1:12 am
Totally OT, but how does one heal a split heel?
I have a rather calloused heel, and trod on a kid’s toy some time back… it hurt, and caused some damage to the calloused skin, but I didn’t think much of it after a few days, but it seems it was still there.
Anyway, now it’s a split heel that’s more of a CREVASSE. Hard to heal a hardened heel
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:15 am
Pics: Toxic Gowanus Canal floods Brooklyn neighborhood
Ick: Power outage leads to sewage overflow
And I think it raises the question about the role that Tony Abbott’s playing.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 1:16 am
Fleeced, this product works wonders. Use s directed, if you can bear to wear socks to bed, put them on after rubbing in the product. An alternative is plain old sorbolene cream, but not as good.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:20 am
link.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:21 am
Oh, BTW – happy Halloween for those who have now crossed over beyond midnight!
perturbed
31 Oct 12 at 1:21 am
Oh my, It’s Halloween!
When I was younger, I resisted Halloween as some stupid American tradition.
But now I realise that:
a) It’s originally Scottish, yeah?;
b) Seems like fun – stop being a party pooper; and
c) The US is awesome – stop being so anti-American!
Must buy some treats for tomorrow.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:25 am
Thanks, Gab – I’ll look at that. Though it’s pretty calloused, and a pretty deep slit – I think I need to “shave” the skin a bit first.
Honestly, I always thought that stuff was nasty… I still think it’s nasty, but now I see the necessity.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:32 am
Washingon Post Obama pom-pom zombie, Richard Cohen, writes an extraordinary denunication of Barack Obama, saying he is a narcissistic, insincere, vapid “totem” and amoral robot who doesn’t care about anyone and doesn’t believe in anything.
The president who seems not to care.
But he’s going to vote for him anyway, “with regret.”
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:35 am
Podiatrists recommend Eulactol. It’s worthwhile seeing one for advice.
Lloyd
31 Oct 12 at 1:35 am
Never heard of it. Google results suggest vaseline is just as good as any of these fancy creams… though alas, it still requires wearing socks to bed (Argh!)
It’s also not enough without shaving back the skin. Yuk!
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:41 am
I dunno, Fleeced. But here’s what I’d do:
Clean the area. Apply an antiseptic ointment (Dettol cream), put a sticking plaster strip along its length, closing the slit tight (faux stitches). Then stick some cotton stuff or cotton balls over the top and wrap that around your heel/ankle as a shock absorber.
Free medical advice for ya.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:41 am
Er, Mr Steve from Brisbane, that is a sad, intelectually difficult and pointless ambition. Common sense beats persistence every time.
Jannie
31 Oct 12 at 1:46 am
DRUDGE has bumped the storm to report:
GALLUP: OBAMA’S EARLY VOTE LEAD DROPS 22-POINTS FROM 2008…
And the equally amazing:
EVEN NPR
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:46 am
I never heard of it either until I saw a pod who recommended it. It worked well. But you ought to get it checked in case there’s something else going on such as a fungal infection.
Lloyd
31 Oct 12 at 1:47 am
You mean butterfly stitches? (At least I think that’s what they’re called) Those funny bandaids for pulling skin together?
I thought of that first, but it’s in the most awkward place on the heel – they wouldn’t hold – and also the most calloused… it’s a pretty deep, dry slit.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:51 am
Yeah, no. I was thinking of a sticking plaster – tough stuff, applied straight over the (cleaned) crevice, then overlaid with my ACME cotton ball shock absorber with its own dedicated wrap.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:59 am
I think I need to “shave” the skin a bit first.
Dr Scholl’s makes a file for cracked heels, and also have a cracked heel repair cream.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 2:06 am
Just amputate the whole foot, it’ll grow back anyway. I heard that from a reliable source.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 2:09 am
The MSM?!
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 2:12 am
Also, no matter what Gab says, DO NOT wears socks to bed. You will lose your man card, and a man card once lost is nigh on impossible to regain (just ask Steve…). After you treat & slather the wound with cream, cover it with two or three sterile gauze pads and wrap with an ace bandage to keep everything in place.
Just never, EVER wear socks to bed. That way lies terminal pussification.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 2:14 am
Doctors everywhere on this blog but they’re MIA when needed. They don’t want to be sued, Fleeced, you see. Very cagey in Good Samaritan situations, they are.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:19 am
Chris Christie has confirmed to me that’s he’s an idiotic prima donna. Trashing the mayor of Atlantic City because he wouldn’t evacuate the entire city.
For a category 1 storm?
Good call, fatso.
Loves beating up on people for an audience.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:32 am
Brendan O’Neill with a word to the illiberal irrationalists amongst us:
Quite so.
What say you, SfB?
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 3:08 am
The Hill:
Meghan McCain to GOP after Sandy: Do you still doubt climate change?
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 3:32 am
Yes, well, there is almost universal agreement among experts that this was an unusually late and large storm that had elements to it that were affected by changes inter alia to the Arctic ice, so these are some factual elements to consider before reading O’Neill’s crypto-communist diatribe.
Scapula
31 Oct 12 at 3:50 am
C.f. Meggie McCain.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 3:50 am
C.f. Scapula
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 3:52 am
Meteorologist interviewed on Al Jazeera News said Galveston Storm in 1900 and Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were much larger than Storm Sandy and caused far greater damage and loss of life.
Septimus
31 Oct 12 at 5:27 am
Galveston was a category 4 and caused more than 6000 deaths. Katrina was a category 5 (made second landfall as category 3) and caused more than 1800 deaths.
Septimus
31 Oct 12 at 5:57 am
They don’t want to be sued, Fleeced, you see.
No sensible doctor in their right mind makes a firm diagnosis without personally examining the patient. To do so is to invite disaster. And yes, lawsuits too. We might hypothesise, we might offer differentials, but our ultimate advice is the same – get thee in person to a medico and get the thing looked at.
perturbed
31 Oct 12 at 6:25 am
It’s no good SfB wrapping himself in some threadbare flag of wanting to help humanity via acceptance of the mad control-freak AGW program.
He’s here as a nuisance on any subject, not to help. If he’s not also trying to boost his own blog’s numbers then why is his name linked to it?
Every time he gloats, and that,s become a daily event, it reminds me of our moderators’ inability to realise the devaluing effect of that interminable sluice of slime permeating so many threads. Loss of man card … That’s a new one, but seems appropriate to various circumstances.
Blogstrop
31 Oct 12 at 6:35 am
There is some interesting shit going on in youth voter land and also something I noticed with a few adults.
My kid told me … Just by the by as she was telling to make conversation.. A lot of her friends are still saying they are voting for the Kenyan on their facebook pages… But they are really intending to vote Romnster.
Reading between the lines I’m also getting that feeling too from some dems I know.
This is going to be a reall interesting election.
I never realized but for a large number of american zombies voting for the Kenyan was like a fashion statement.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 6:57 am
And just to make something clear – I have complete contempt for the ABC and its ardent proselytising on the subject of AGW, which extends to the use of chosen lobbyists ad infinitum, and to the use of the smirking Karoly at every opportunity too. The latter has just been the subject of vivisection by Bunyip, a most deserved fate.
If anybody, and particularly SfB, thinks they can win any kudos by aligning themselves with those who in my opinion have damaged Australia, they are sadly mistaken. My disdain for AGW trolls is not just personal vendetta. I’m not just slagging him or them generally as an ad hominem. They are a danger to all of us.
The reason I’m more down on SfB than some others is the gratuitous insertion of deliberately annoying points of view on any subject, intended as vexatious and distracting, not in any ordinary argumentative context..
SteveC is similarly determined to be an unwelcome presence and goes to enormous trouble to present a contrary position on anything, but is more tied to apologies for government policy. He’s been more successful than SfB in the avoidance of open disdain, but only by a whisker. Both are easily identifiable as enemy combatants, green on blue, and should be squashed like insects. No UN ROE please.
Blogstrop
31 Oct 12 at 6:58 am
RCN, the ISP our friends use here was down all day until now. Shit like powers still down below 40 th street.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 6:59 am
Good to see you made it through, JC!
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 7:03 am
#CHANGE: Chicago Obama voters unhappy with his first four years
I thought this was an interesting observation from one of the black women, too:
Ruh-roh, Obama! They’re on to you and your Chicago union machine.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 7:08 am
Dog
It was a really I unusual storm. Never experienced anything like it.
We’re on the 30 th floor and the place was really rocking around. At ground level though the wind wasn’t nearly as powerful.
The one thing that was surreal was that the cloud cover was moving so damned fast.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 7:11 am
In designing skyscrapers, confusing the wind is an engineering artform.
BTW, if you ever go through that again, fill the bathtub and watch how much it sloshes around. You’ll be surprised.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 7:25 am
You have an obtuse sense of humour, JC. Odumbo is like a Japanese toy craze that has worn off. He’s so 2008.
Good to know you’re safe. From this distance, it’s astounding and amusing that the climate guilt industry now tries to use every storm as funding leverage.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 7:26 am
Lol.. I saw a version of that. I was taking a slash and the water in the toilet bowl was moving around side to side by about an inch or so.
The other test was standing on one foot very still and feel the away.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 7:44 am
oops feel the sway.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 7:44 am
Obama accepts ‘Osama bin Laden’ donations.
Cleta, when will you learn, it’s different when they do it.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:11 am
JC, the news services here are being led by Odumbo, the commander in chief, burying Benghazi and milking the storm for every vote: “heart goes out”…”I will do all I can” … etc etc. I trust that ordinary Americans can see what he’s doing. On the other hand, POTUS is a revered institution in a way Australians can’t imagine. Respect for the presidency is a button an incumbent can press as required, especially in a natural disaster.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 8:14 am
Professor Bunyip is really after Karoly and his mob.
Mike
Mike of Marion
31 Oct 12 at 8:15 am
Sadly, I think we’re going to pull the pin on our bookings to fly to NYC on Saturday. We can’t raise the hotel (in Soho) at all, we spoke to its sister property in Chicago and they have no idea what’s happening there. It does not appear that power will be up and running; there is no certainty that all of the restaurant and attractions for which we have bookings will be open, so unfortunately, that is all she wrote. Wishing NYC all the best, I will get there one day!
James in Melbourne
31 Oct 12 at 8:16 am
James
There’s no power below 40th street. I’d be really shocked though if they weren’t up and running by Saturday.
Con Ed lost a couple of generators that serviced the downtown area, however I’m optimistic they will get the power from the grid. We’re fine and we’re on 60th street.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 8:20 am
It’s more of a Nth Queensland thing I think – it peters out the further you go south. I remember listening to a guy in Cairns tell a story, and every single pause, sentence, and gap was filled with ‘aye’.
Interestingly some provinces in Canada have the same thing, ay. But we don’t say ‘aboot’.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 8:21 am
Queenslanders – Banana Benders!!!!!
All I heard when I was up there was,
‘Shit Ay But!!”
Mike of Marion
31 Oct 12 at 8:23 am
James – I would give it one more day at least before making your decision. Saturday is a long way away at this point.
NYC is a big joint. The majority didn’t go under water. They’re all about getting moving again – if the power is back on, then things will be happening, places will be open for business.
The WSJ managed to get an edition out on Sep 12, 2001. That’s the sort of thing that people in NY take pride in.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 8:25 am
Agreed. These disgusting commie shitheads want to enslave people, in this instance on the basis of the most extraordinarily preposterous, anti-scientific, fact and evidence free fraud in human history.
I’ve always found the psychopathology of the semenblogger quite odd.
He’s utterly loathed, incessantly ridiculed, phenomenally boring, infuriatingly sanctimonious, staggeringly stupid, an obsessive creepy pervert and completely lacking in any redeeming features whatsoever.
All this while having the utter gall to claim that he is something he clearly is not – a “Catholic Conservative”.
Another interesting fact is that the fucking moron has been posting his unhinged drivel here for many years.
What kind of masochistic, lobotomised loser would behave in this manner?
So, why do you bother, you fat, stupid, superannuated shitsack?
Everyone here with a functioning brain utterly despises you.
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 8:29 am
Always thought that was a Kiwi thing.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:31 am
>‘Shit Ay But!!”
>>Always thought that was a Kiwi thing.
+1
brc
31 Oct 12 at 8:34 am
Fair, but not enough bile and disgust, Rabz.
Thanks for speaking for all of us though.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 8:37 am
Interesting take on Benghazi and some in depth analysis in comments.
Bracken: Did Obama Withhold Cross-Border Authority?
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:38 am
“Duuuhhhh, tops, eh bro!”
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 8:38 am
Thanks JC, not something I take lightly.
Like yourself, Gab, blogstrop and Tommy in particular, I have seriously had enough.
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 8:39 am
Aaaarrrggghhhh, can also be a question, with the requisite upward inflection at the end…
“Duuuhhhh, tops eh, bro?”
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 8:42 am
He’s paid.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:42 am
There is only one motivation that could keep him here, Rabz, and it starts with M.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 8:44 am
“Duuuhhhh, tops eh, bro, aye?”
TFIFY
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:45 am
“Duuuhhhh, tops eh, bro, aye?”
FIFY
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:47 am
Bloody hell, I’ve always steered away from that hypothesis no the basis that not even the ALP would be that fucking idiotic…
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 8:48 am
Thanks, Rudi.
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 8:55 am
Thomson called out – and blinks
Bolt
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 8:56 am
Fleeced
If it’s really bad try Luca PawPaw Ointment, in the red tub.
It’s brilliant for cracked skin near fingernails and for cracked lips.
After it heals, if you have dry heels, smother them with a good moisturiser at night (rub it in well), and wear sox to bed to stop smearing goop everywhere.
kae
31 Oct 12 at 9:04 am
Thanks JC, BRC,
We’re holding off on the decision, really we need to hear from our hotel to confirm that it is going to be operating; secondly we’re worried that the subway might still be closed; and thirdly, we’re worried that the Frick, MOMA, the Gugg et al might be closed, let alone all the restaurants we have booked. We don’t want to be on foot in NYC doing ‘disaster tourism’ in the middle of a clean-up.
We’re also supposed to be seeing ‘The Book of Mormon’ – I wasn’t greatly keen on that, because even though I admire Parker and Stone, who at least walk the walk most of the time on being ‘edgy,’ any show these days that satirises an organised religion is shooting fish in a barrel, when there is a rather large pachyderm in the room in the form of one highly organised religion that does not take kindly to being criticised.
Just as Andres Serrano is not going to do a “Piss Allah” and Madonna is not going to writhe around on stage blaspheming with various Islamic props, Parker and Stone are not going to do “The Koran: The Musical,” which to my mind makes taking the piss out of Mormonism a bit weak and predictable.
James in Melbourne
31 Oct 12 at 9:04 am
Rabz,
Both the FIFY comments went into the digital regions of space beyond the earth’s atmosphere.
Shrugged shoulders, moved on, came back and now both comments appeared.
Strange things happen in the digital ether.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 9:08 am
One guy was in a hurry to leave town.
CRUCIAL FRANKENSTORM UPDATE
Blair
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 9:14 am
Funny on so many levels Rabz. When the ABC asks her did she regret her statements and gets “No, I don’t”.
They might have well asked “have you no shame”.
As for McArdle, he obviously thinks he’s a mini-Chris Murphy bunging on the hysteria.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 9:25 am
Clinton Arrives in Algeria to Push Mali Invasion
Again, It’s different when they do it.
The Left and their servile flattering media live in a moralistic parallel universe at odds with commonsense, ethics and decency.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 9:31 am
BTW breaking news:
FORMER health services union boss Michael Williamson has been charged with 28 new offences including cheating and defrauding the union and dealing with the proceeds of crime.
Detective Superintendent Col Dyson told The Australian the charges involved an alleged $620,000 worth of allegedly defrauded money.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/hsus-williamson-faces-28-new-charges/story-e6frg6nf-1226507245605
val majkus
31 Oct 12 at 9:36 am
Masturbatory?
H B Bear
31 Oct 12 at 9:41 am
Bear,
That’s not an image people would want to contemplate…
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 9:43 am
Wow, looks like the city public transport systems are doing a great job attracting customers.
Got to love government monopolies…
I never find this to be true when travelling in the big cities in Asia where taxis & PT are much cheaper.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 9:44 am
“It is a little odd that he shows up in the briefing room, where he hasn’t shown up in the briefing room for about, what — a month and a half on Libya, or for everything else for that matter? Then you get the photo-ops of him in the situation room deploying, I guess, the utility crews who will restore power all over America. Whereas you would think he might want to use the situation room and had convened high-level people during the nine hours our people were under attack in Benghazi.”
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 9:45 am
Hi Rudi, that video proves Tim Blair’s premise that the Sandy made smoking difficult. There was no way those tyres were going to light up!
Steve D
31 Oct 12 at 9:46 am
For a moment ignore the idea that the Destroy the Joint mob actually did the crime.
What would the Lefty Astroturf organisations & the stenographers be doing if Sarah Palin had referred to the organisation “Destroy the Joint” in a speech, then Singo’s place burned down?
You can bet the mob would be livid & calling “Destroy the Joint” hate speech and getting the Macquarie Dictionary to change definitions to assist their campaign to lynch their political opponents.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 9:48 am
If you are still about Fleeced at 1:15am – I see you’ve had some good advice already to which I add the suggestion of a half hour morning and night soaking in salt water. It’s a panacea for many skin related things.
I know it’s inconvenient when there are work and family demands (I’m fortunate being feet away from the Broadwater and the Coral Sea as medicine) however I have found it to be both a soothing and a swift solution for several skin aberrations.
If you are close to the coast keep a watering can in your vehicle, drive by the local boat ramp, three quarter fill it and pour into a small tub to soak your feet in at home (use a cork as a stopper in the spout to avoid spillages en route).
Mick Gold Coast QLD
31 Oct 12 at 9:54 am
Hey, if you travel in fashionable lefty circles where groupthink is the norm (and sneer at bland predictable suburbia), standing out is a great way to be ostracised.
I’m not surprised that privately they are putting their economic interests ahead of vacuous fashion statements.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 9:58 am
Ouch. Obama just really doesn’t do well off-teleprompter, does he.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 10:00 am
JC, has anyone brought up the old “broken windows theory” about how this will kick start the economy?
I can see econo-retards like the DNC jumping at that idea in their attempt to deflect attention.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 10:02 am
Yeah, aye, but what’s really important is that the 2013 AFL fixture has just been released.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 10:11 am
Arguing to keep the trolls here after they’ve had more than a fair run, is a bit like arguing to preserve North Korea in it’s current state, as a warning to the rest of the world of communism’s penultimate destination. Wouldn’t wish that kind of misery on anyone.
I have to say dd, that I’ve not detected that many arguments from the trolls. They never come with strong positions on anything. Hence the ease with which they contradict themselves, all in the space of one thread.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 10:11 am
>JC, has anyone brought up the old “broken windows theory” about how this will kick start the economy?
To a certain extent, disasters can kick things along by unlocking insurance policy savings and putting them to work. This is not a borrow-from-the-future issue like borrow-and-spend, but a borrow-from-the-past in terms of liquidate-savings-and-spend.
Fixing disaster damage can also result in better infrastructure, which can have long term benefits as well.
So while (obviously) breaking the windows is not a strategy you want to undertake, the insurance aspect of things does provide some injection of funds and activity. Assuming all of the insurance money was not fully invested in productive uses elsewhere, of course, which, in my experience of insurance investment, is a fair assumption.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 10:13 am
Thank about it Rabz, a union like the AWU would make more sense. As you’ve seen they have “slush” funds for all kinds of sh*t.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 10:14 am
That stuff is ‘da bomb’. It works for every type of skin irritation no matter how sensitive the skin (read nappy rash on babies through to healing cuts & burns on adults).
Token
31 Oct 12 at 10:16 am
Token, I saw some references to economic stimulus to be expected from the Sandy clean up and reconstruction yesterday. Now I remember, here.
More level-headed commentary can be found later in the article.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 10:24 am
Why, yes. Yes, they have.
The Bastiat Institute has. In a tongue-in-cheek manner, of course. ;-P
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 10:24 am
Heh:
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 10:28 am
Of course compulsory smart meters are the thin end of the wedge. Now this:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/federal-government-reform-plan-to-allow-companies-to-remotely-switch-off-households-power-during-peak/story-e6freuy9-1226507193970
The proposal is for an ‘opt-in’ scheme at this stage. No prizes for guessing what the next step will be.
johanna
31 Oct 12 at 10:29 am
Let’s not forget that other feather in his cap: former national president of the ALP.
lotocoti
31 Oct 12 at 10:30 am
Steve, your utter obliviousness to the most obvious immediate rejoinders to the inanities you post is one of your most endearing traits.
There are actually 26 Best Hurricane Sandy Conspiracy Theories – the one you left out is that it was caused by conservative voters in developed nations driving SUVs and running two TVs.
James in Melbourne
31 Oct 12 at 10:41 am
Problem solving, lefty-style.
Radio host attacked, set on fire while on-air while examining corruption.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 10:42 am
I think I may have just penned something approaching a Gold Medal winning Catallaxy Uber Troll:
* Go read Al Gore’s take on Hurricane Sandy at Huffington Post, and then skip over to the Huff’s criticism of Randian approaches to disaster relief. Sobering reading.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 10:50 am
Leftism, the religion of peace and tolerance…..hmmm that reminds me…nah, couldn’t be…yet?
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 10:51 am
Please note: written for illustrative purposes only. I do not have any allegiance to Al Gore and have never seen his movie.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 10:53 am
sfb, that is so obviously a troll you wouldn’t even have made it through the local trolling weekend competition.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 11:05 am
SfB, if you {heart} Leftard blogs like HuffPo and LGF and John Cook’s and such so much, why the fuck don’t you spend all your waking hours there instead of here?
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 11:08 am
Smart meters are the only way to effectively price electricity. Once time of use pricing is introduced network investment that is used for 4 to 8 weeks a year but paid for 52 weeks a year will be reduced.
Expect people to jump up and down about it. Electricity is a pretty complex commodity and the power companies and government have done a very poor job of explaining it. Network companies (still many under government ownership) receive regulated return on assets and have no real incentive to reduce peak power use, they are engaged in gaming the regulator.
H B Bear
31 Oct 12 at 11:08 am
Steve,
Latest on Says Law worth reading.
Louis Hissink
31 Oct 12 at 11:12 am
She must have a thing for prunes:
Rolling Stone Ronnie Wood to wed theatre producer Sally Humphries, 31 years his junior
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 11:22 am
Heavens, Fleeced. If it’s that bad you need to go see a podiatrist!
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 11:23 am
Investigation Finds Obama Financing Mosques Worldwide With U.S. Taxpayer Dollars
Because of a movie promoted by the WH et alia,
Mosque restoration good.
Christian defense bad.
Does the et alia even realise the death and destruction they caused with the spreading of their movie gossip meme on Benghazi.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 11:25 am
The Green Weenie Meanie at Powerlineblog has picked up the lefties going econo-retard about the healing powers of a natural disaster:
He has quotes from NYT, WSJ & Forbes with articles that could be boiled down to:
Token
31 Oct 12 at 11:26 am
What warm body language!!! Could she get any further from him?
How strong is the pre-nup Ronnie? She won’t be around for long.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 11:29 am
Thanks for all the advice, guys… should be ok.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 11:35 am
So Disney owns Star Wars, now – and are making a 7th movie… can be any worse than the prequels, I suppose – as long as Vader doesn’t break out into song.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 11:37 am
can’T be any worse… dang
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 11:37 am
Define Leftism:
Big government atheist socialism but if they need a set of moral guiding principles, Islam it is.
Sorry, just got a shitty on these morons this morning more than usual.
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 11:38 am
Bear
You are right about the gaming the regulator stuff, but who set up the regulator? Take (another) bow, the Federal Government.
As for the rest of your comment, grateful if you could drop the implication that I don’t understand the electricity market. I do. And electricity demand has been dropping, so all the scare stories about blackouts due to airconditioners etc are bullshit.
If governments were less obsessed with closing down power plants and forcing useless and expensive ‘renewables’ on us, and more interested in creating an environment which supports a competitive market and investment in new plants, we would not be creeping stealthily towards a situation where our power supply will be cut at random intervals by regulatory fiat.
johanna
31 Oct 12 at 11:40 am
Hey, the courier driver who I see every day (the one who hates Julia Gillard but said a couple of months ago that she is “starting to get some runs on the board”) said today that he thinks Obama deserves to win over Romney.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 11:41 am
Australian ‘Climate Commissioner’ and hero of Steve, Tim Flannery:
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 11:42 am
Did they do that travesty in the Star Wars Christmas special?
Token
31 Oct 12 at 11:42 am
According to some industry dude I caught on Brisbane ABC radio last week, aggregate demand for electricity is dropping, but not demand needed for peaks, which is still growing. He claimed 25% of generator capacity is really just for the peaks during the hottest days of summer.
He might be wrong, and I missed who he was, but he sounded as if he knew what he was talking about…
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 11:46 am
lol… forgot about that
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 11:46 am
Heh heh heh,
Thats put me in a better mood.
EBL’s rule 5
Rudiau
31 Oct 12 at 11:46 am
Where’s the outrage from Fairfax over the change to immigration laws by labor?
Nic
31 Oct 12 at 11:52 am
Hey Steve, a bloke who knows his shit told me you’re a numbnut
tiny dancer
31 Oct 12 at 11:52 am
Going on the TV news last night, Fairfax is leaving it to the ABC to assert outrage over the return to Howardian values and the need for a renewal of the Greens’ open borders philosophy to allow in as many illegal immigrants as are prepared to die trying*, preferably if they conform to a national security high-risk profile.
*Only two (2) out of 20,000 or so illegal immigrants in the past year have been forcefully deported.
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 11:59 am
The reason there are peaks in electricity usage is because people want to use some! We’ve all been happy to pay for that capacity in the past, so why can’t we continue to? Just get rid of the green subsidies to less-efficient power generation, give the power companies confidence to invest as they see fit and I’m sure we can all have the power we want at a reasonable price.
And I don’t want to have to modify my usage based on spot prices for electricity. The retailers can manage that (by selling me power at a rate they determine) rather than me having to look up a price before switching something on!
Steve D
31 Oct 12 at 12:01 pm
Please. As if Fauxfacts would do that.It takes a change of government before Fauxfacts would ever do outrage.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 12:06 pm
>He claimed 25% of generator capacity is really just for the peaks during the hottest days of summer.
So what?
I really don’t get this argument.
Most road capacity is for peak hour usage.
I assume water infrastructure capacity is designed for peak usage.
Almost all of the Fire Brigade is designed for peak usage.
FFS even shopping centre design is for peak usage.
Everyone has beds in their house designed only for peak usage. Most families could get by with one single bed if they just rationed their sleeping out properly. It’s an absurd argument. Imagine if the government put a quota on beds and urged people to use a government website to schedule their sleeping to prevent unnecessary bed overuse. That’s how stupid this whole thing is.
There was a time when people took pride in being able to supply the needs of the population.
This argument that ‘OMG the people don’t use all this stuff all the time’ is very much luddite material.
If people need GW of power over the summer, then build whatever is needed to get it to them. It’s really not that hard. Crying about it is just lame.
In the meantime, scrap all the wastage on ‘renewable’ energy that neither delivers baseload nor peak load demand reliably. That will free up plenty of capital for proper infrastructure that will deliver peak load.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 12:11 pm
WhyTF should the taxpayer pay for this?! This is absurd.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 12:11 pm
The complete Star Wars Holiday Special can be found as a torrent as Sony Home Entertainment has forced the removal of the full horror from YouTube. Watch Bea Arthur scold Greedo! Marvel at Art Carney as a crusty old trader! See Chewbacca’s family! And hear the Princess sing!! Once you’ve seen this, you’ll never diss Episode I ever again…
Cold-Hands
31 Oct 12 at 12:13 pm
Parliament house is designed for peak usage. Did QLD apply the same logic when they abolished their upper house?
Steve D
31 Oct 12 at 12:14 pm
Governments are doing their darndest to fulfill the prophecy of frequent blackouts. The more they fiddle the less robust the system becomes. As for smart meters – I predict they will kill people. There will of course be no accountability for this, and the sheeple will simply shrug.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 12:30 pm
No doubt businesses will be told to set aside bigger reserves for this eventuality, thereby increasing the number of bankruptcies. Idiotic.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 12:33 pm
WhyTF should the taxpayer pay for this?!
Fairness, Gab; fairness. Didn’t you get the memo?
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 12:35 pm
I’m more convinced than ever that the betting agencies don’t know what the hell they are on about with US Election. They have the Democrats favourites to win Virginia:
http://centrebet.com/#Sports/1965067
The Democrats have given up on Virginia and the pollsters have stopped polling there.
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 12:39 pm
Not forgeting the disco version of the star wars theme
Nic
31 Oct 12 at 12:41 pm
Dover I’m just appalled the Libs would even consider adopting such a socialist policy.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 12:44 pm
I’m not sure they are. I think the Liars party is suggesting that in a bankruptcy redundancy etc. would be guaranteed up to that amount in terms of creditor ranking.
Could be wrong though.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 12:52 pm
The odds are pretty skewed, but betting agencies merely adjust odds according to bets placed. I reckon it’s just the non-US folks placing ignorant bets wot done it.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 12:52 pm
In the AFR via Bolt.
CFMEU uses drug charity funds for “safety”
I have previously wondered why old Mar’n Ferguson wouldn’t take steps the save the liar’s party. Now we know – his family has their hands in the blood right up to the elbows. Corrupt the lot of them, and if not corrupt, fully compromised by a family member.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 12:55 pm
Four weeks redundancy pay for every year of service is double what the feather-bedded public service currently gets.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 12:56 pm
IT, according to Rasmussen, Romney is now two points ahead in Ohio, three in Virginia, and tied in Wisconsin and Iowa. I think all five are now Romney’s. And I actually think Penn and Minnesota will go to Romney because he’ll get the vote out better there than Obama.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 12:57 pm
Are you happy about big, rolly pollie Christie’s sincere thanks to Obama for his disaster relief help, IT?
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 12:58 pm
Florida makes five, sorry.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 12:59 pm
johanna @11.40am I have re-read my comment and am not sure where I implied you do not understand the electricity market. Can someone with a greater sense of paranoia help me out?
Falling aggregate demand doesn’t tell you anything about the change in peak demand. To the extent that aggregate demand is falling due to the closure of major industrial users, such as aluminium smelters, it doesn’t produce any real impact on network costs either.
Major electricity users with variable power requirements, such as desalination plants over in WA, should theoretically produce improved generation efficiency – unless they go and enter into major renewable off-take agreements (as they have done) which is a lose-lose, worst of all worlds result.
H B Bear
31 Oct 12 at 12:59 pm
sfb, no one watches Morning Shmo.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:00 pm
Rasmussen only polls people available by wire telegraph, doesn’t it d-b?
RCP seems to have been showing Obama ahead in Minnesota ahead by 5 to 7 points for ages…
You packing antidepressants for your trip? Be prepared.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 1:02 pm
d-b, as Slate notes, he’s been saying it everywhere:
Chris Christie Can’t Stop Praising Obama for Hurricane Sandy Efforts
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 1:03 pm
That looks better.
nilk
31 Oct 12 at 1:05 pm
IT
Someone like Uncle George (soros) is manipulating the betting markets. It’s a hunch, but I’m pretty confident about it. The way the market was dragged up looked like it was a huge Obama buyer in there and he’s one fucker evil enough to try that shit on.
Look at the liquidity. It’s about $25 million.
He’d only have to be max. 20% of that to skew the price like that.
As I mentioned earlier in the week..
Say he has $10 million riding on that..
He could say buy 100 million shares in Bank of America and he would be covered against the loss. If Romney wins banks and coal stocks will go up by at least 10%.
I might check his SEC filing later and see if there are any bank of coal stocks there, although the position may not be reported as the entire $24 billion he has is his own and I no longer think he manages client money.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:05 pm
Fleeced, I used to suffer from cracked heels, all from walking around bare foot. My home for the last eight years has been in gravel and rock with a bit of mud in between. So forced to wear shoes all the time. And runners and socks all day every day has cured my cracked heels.
Helen Armstrong
31 Oct 12 at 1:09 pm
It’s insurance. In a weeks time if Obama wins he’s going to need a shitload of Federal $$$’s to rebuild. He needs to suck up to the Kenyan dog molester just in case.
Christie’s a jerk and a warmist.
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 1:10 pm
RCP seems to have been showing Obama ahead in Minnesota ahead by 5 to 7 points for ages…
And? So does Rasmussen. What is your point? Romney wins without Minnesota and Penn if he lands the other mentioned states. I’m suggesting that any state where Romney is up to seven points behind are in play because the Republicans will win the voter turnout, and the independents are breaking 2 to 1 to Romney.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:11 pm
JC, how was the city today? Been out for a look-see?
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:13 pm
It’s an interesting point that the specialised heal crack balms all have a large amount of urea in them.
Not sure where it’s sourced from, but I see that, as I expected, there is a site that explains how to use your own, very close to you, source of urea to treat dry skin. As the site says, though:
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 1:15 pm
Terrific news, right Stepford you fuckhead. One of the principle things that distinguishes and industrial civilization from a fucking backward almost stoneage one is electricity. You’re pleased we’re using less!
You deplorable fucking evil douchebag.
Seriously, I’d pass a fucking law to stick you on a peddle pusher along with Tubbsie Milne for 12 hours per day with one 10 minute break for the rest of your miserable life feeding power into the the grid.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:16 pm
This is more true in Betting exchanges like Betfair, where other punters cover your bets through a matching service. The bulk of the Betfair membership are UK punters who are force-fed the standard MSM/BBC model of the world. Little wonder that they have Mittens at 3.25.
Cold-Hands
31 Oct 12 at 1:17 pm
Try “heel” in that last comment.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 1:17 pm
>Christie’s a jerk and a warmist.
And he’s a Springsteen fan like Swan.
Three strikes I’m afraid.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 1:18 pm
Fine on the upper east side, DB. Saw a few trees down and branches etc… lots of leaves..
Just got back from dinner and there wasn’t even a rustle of a tree branch. It’s as calm as anything. Still overcast though.
Everyone was out walking today. It was funny seeing all these women wearing their latest Burberry/designer gum boots and their rain/storm attire but it wasn’t raining.
Look, the serious part of the storm lasted about 5 hours or so.. at the least the worrying part.
The real damage was downtown and in the burbs as you probably know. Upper Eastside is fine, just as God willed it. As I thought, the real damage was the tidal surge and no the storm so much.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:24 pm
Good news, JC. Are you flying out morning, afternoon, or evening?
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:30 pm
Cold H
The other thing to note is that Americans are not allowed to bet on foreign betting markets. It’s the law. The only reason that the law is important is because like Swiss/offshore private bankers overseas bookies will not touch potential US clients because of the very real fear that the US government/Department of Justice will hound them for the next million years. They will not touch a Client with an American address. The risk of being caught is a knee capping. The owners of these establishments would be risking getting nabbed in a foreign country and extradited to the US to face charges.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:31 pm
Leaving Friday DB. That’s if the flight is going to happen. Haven’t called the airline yet. If it happens it happens, if it doesn’t I’ll stay on. No drama.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:32 pm
This week? You’ll be able to enjoy the election coverage when you get back.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:34 pm
Aww… you should’ve stayed for the election, JC.
Though it might be more enjoyable seeing how shocked and outraged Aussies are when Romney eats Obama’s lunch.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:37 pm
Yea Friday this week. I thought it was Sunday a while ago, but wifey confused me. Sunday is when we arrive back, not when we leave. I thought I was getting back on cup day.
I need her to sharpen up on her communication skills.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:37 pm
Pyne: Gillard and Williamson go together like “fish and scales.”
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:38 pm
Have pulled the pin on NYC flights on Saturday. Our hotel does not have power. As far as we know, flights not going in or out. Subway closed. ConEd seems to think power to Lower M will be back on in four days, but says it wants to “manage expectations.” Bottom line is we want to enjoy NYC, not get in the way of a clean-up.
James in Melbourne
31 Oct 12 at 1:38 pm
Just seen at News Ltd:
The backlash against Alan Jones has had zero ratings impact.
LOL.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:38 pm
Actually Pyne did very well in that presser today. More please.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:41 pm
Chris Bowen: ‘You know, it’d be great if the Liberals finally supported our border policy.’
They killed 1000 people because they hated John Howard.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 1:43 pm
James, NYC always feels like it’s in the middle of a clean-up. I think everything will be back to normal by Sunday/ Monday.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:44 pm
When I was in the US last year I accessed my Centrebet account. They immediately froze it and demanded proof I wasn’t American.
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 1:45 pm
Fleeced
If I stayed on for the election with a Romney win, it would be like attending a wake in this place (manhattan).
Fair dinkum, you could count righties here on one hand. They’re like huge version of a Q&A audience. I don’t know WTF is wrong with Manhattanites. They seem mentally incapacitated.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:45 pm
Dover you will be our roving reporter for the election, in NYC. please be sure to file your reports to the Cat hourly. Ta.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:46 pm
Lol… they’re frightened shitless of US government reach. They are first rate fascists like that.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 1:48 pm
Considering the size of the unfunded liabilities from this government (i.e. Labor has not provided for the liabilities for the ever increasing # of state & Federal Public Servants, rather left that for a future Coalition government to find the money), it is a bit rich Labor make this attack.
Any worker that votes for Labor is in fact voting to be screwed over when they retire.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 1:48 pm
Wow! Well, that explains the Centrebet odds!
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 1:48 pm
Rich white guilt. It’s the largest conglomeration of Dr’s Wives on the planet.
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 1:50 pm
Gab, I arrive on election night. Honestly, I don’t think my beloved would appreciate me reporting the news hourly on the Cat. I will, however, provide whatever news I can while waiting in transit at LAX.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:51 pm
because she doesn’t have a clue and is a disgusting cur.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:51 pm
This headline:
will be followed up next week by
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:52 pm
Priorities, Dover. Understood.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:53 pm
It’s true, JC; I have to bite my tongue when out. But, damn it, I’m going to enjoy the schadenfreude.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 1:55 pm
I know Macquarie Media is too savvy to provide individual details, but it would be great to hear how they are milking the yellow-backed advertisers who are begging to get back to advertising to AJ’s large and very affluent audience.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 1:56 pm
I’m shocked I tells ya. Shocked.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 1:57 pm
Source of Rudd vid?
With the WA files…
kae
31 Oct 12 at 1:58 pm
The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) to help engineer Superstorm Sandy, according to U.S. News and World Report.
Bloody HAARP. I remember arguing with someone who was positive that HAARP was being used to cause earthquakes. What can you do?
Parliament house is designed for peak usage. Did QLD apply the same logic when they abolished their upper house?
Abolish State and Local Govts and replace them with municipalities that have no more than 12 representatives. Dissolve States. We waste an incredible amount of money with stupid duplication. While we’re at it, get rid of the tourism, sport, arts, culture, EEO, HRC, “Minister for Deregulation”(what an oxymoron), climate change department, and other portfolios that serve little to no purpose.
It’s a wish list I know. What can you do?
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 1:59 pm
Scientists Prove the Existence of the Soul – Penrose and Hammeroff are at it again.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 2:07 pm
I had a funny experience at a birthday party sunday night. There was a doctors wives coven in the sitting room, which was where the food and drinks were.
They got to talking politics and straight away they began hitting the GOP over da abortion and what that candidate Mourdock had said. They then suggested that Romney would remove the right to abortion.
I couldn’t take that shit anymore so I intervened. I told them that the idea Romney would make da abortion illegal was preposterous as it was a SCOTUS decision anyway. One doofus woman then started to preach to me that she owned her own body. I replied that she appeared to be too old to conceive and that even if the Romster appointed a conservative judge to the SCOTUS and Roe was overturned the issue would go back to the states…. and the idea that NY would make abortion illegal was silly.
The atmosphere could have been cut with a knife.
Wifey fulminated all the way back to the apartment. It was funny.
These fuckers get their crap from the turgid NYTimes!
JC
31 Oct 12 at 2:16 pm
Yes but think of the children! /sarc
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 2:20 pm
She couldn’t have any, Gab. That was my point to her!
The scrapper was too old.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 2:22 pm
One doofus woman then started to preach to me that she owned her own body
Some people deserve to have their bodies repossessed.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 2:23 pm
LOL.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:25 pm
Yes, I understood, JC. It was meant to be a juxtaposition. Clumsy, I know.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 2:25 pm
Then why outsource it to the state with policies like ObamaCare?
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 2:29 pm
JC sounds like good value at boring parties.
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 2:29 pm
Tony Abbott should call j. Gillard a lying scrapper in parliament.
candy
31 Oct 12 at 2:29 pm
Not to mention all the nanny-state regulation
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 2:29 pm
So you want to abolish states and replace them with …states?
Or subservient administrative regions of Canberra? I don’t want Victorians, Canberrans and Tasmanians affecting me in the name of “efficiency” thanks.
I like federalism, there should be more states, more duplication at a level closer to the citizenry and a federal government whose only power is a common defence force and as a place where the states can take conflicts to be resolved.
twostix
31 Oct 12 at 2:30 pm
Gaol, I hope:
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:30 pm
Yea, recall how it all started. Some idiot mentioned that she had read Thomas Friedman’s column in the Times that weekend… (like who doesn’t) and how smart it/he was because he mentioned the intellectual inconsistency of The Right’s position..
It went something like this..
The Right (in the US) is against abortion, but for guns and capital punishment.
They all thought it was brilliant.
I followed up with..
Well it’s a silly argument because the Left’s argument is
against capital punishment even for the most heinous crimes, against self protection and guns is a constitutional right, but yanking a kid that could survive even at late term.
So I suggested Friedman was an idiot while The Right’s argument had stronger logical merit.
The melee then went on from there.
I told them they shouldn’t read Friedman in order to preserve brain cells at middle age.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 2:32 pm
Is it really wise to keep telling us how much of a social embarrassment your wife finds you, JC?
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 2:32 pm
Candy, you’ve been getting pretty angry lately about the Gillard/Abbott situation.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:32 pm
Ever taken Wifey for a picnic at Pinkenba, JC?
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:34 pm
I’ll be in Canuckistan for the election. But I will be there with a couple of yankees, one of which I know to be a comitted republican supporter. Maybe I’ll suggest to him to head to the hotel bar that night to watch it unfold and live blog if I can get a working internet connection on my phone.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 2:35 pm
So were his dogs severely disabled as well?
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 2:35 pm
Or subservient administrative regions of Canberra? I don’t want Victorians, Canberrans and Tasmanians affecting me in the name of “efficiency” thanks.
They already do. More states = more govts = more waste. Federalise all laws. More states will be a massive multiplication in laws and administration which will be disastrous for business. A mountain of red tape and making corruption much easier.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 2:36 pm
Sounds like a plan, brc. Drunkblogging to boot.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 2:36 pm
I think it was an extended Vietnamese family having a picnic there when I last went, CL. They know the fun places to go.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 2:38 pm
Stop being a moron Stepford. She adores me.
Cl
Pinkemba? QLD?
Don’t get it.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 2:39 pm
>Abolish State and Local Govts and replace them with municipalities that have no more than 12 representatives. Dissolve States.
I don’t agree. The original Federal setup was quite good. The problem has been the gradual erosion of states rights and ceding of the states sovereign powers to the feds.
Abolish Fed departments, return the right for the states to set their own taxes (even if ATO collects) and re-introduce many of the benefits of Federalisation, namely, the ability for states to compete with one another, while keeping a homogenous economic entity with completely free trade including capital and labour movement across state borders.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 2:42 pm
Bishop going after the Rodent over the slush fund again.
She won’t answer.
A Lib just thrown out for yelling “crook” or something.
She’s blaming Abbott for being “offensive.”
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:42 pm
You know, I’m not surprised JC does that; not for a minute.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 2:43 pm
JC, Pinkemba is an industrial/port slum area in Brisbane where Steve says he likes to take his alleged wife and family for fun days out.
It’s also where criminals like to dump bodies and keep mysterious things in sheds, that sort of thing.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 2:44 pm
Apropos of nothing, I have only just learned, via the web, the intended way to use a shave stick. I never really understood why it was cylindrical before.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 2:45 pm
Hope he keeps at it.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 2:47 pm
I am also using a shave brush that I know for a fact I got in 1984.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 2:47 pm
What benefit does the Coalition think they are going to get from this? It’s boring and the public, apart from wingnuts, think its boring.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 2:49 pm
Not related to your butt plug fetish?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
31 Oct 12 at 2:51 pm
Finally started shaving, Steve?
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 2:54 pm
>Pinkemba
Pinkenba
It’s where the Brisbane river meets Moreton bay, and does so very slowly. As in it’s a marshy, swampy, mosquito ridden cesspit. You get a good view when you fly in and out of BNE if approaching/leaving over the bay.
The Port facilities are actually on the South side of the river, so ‘working Port’ isn’t something that Pinkenba can really lay claim too.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 2:57 pm
The technocratic fascist emerges again.
All that to worry about and yet somehow the US with 52 states and thousands of semi-autonomous local governments has been successful.
twostix
31 Oct 12 at 2:57 pm
“non story”
Obviously bombing over target Libs, keep going.
twostix
31 Oct 12 at 2:58 pm
Some idiot “economist” claiming the US storm could be good for the economy. I remember we had the same shit here.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 3:02 pm
The Lying Rodent was just asked by Bronwyn Bishop if it was true – as per McKew – that she described pricing carbon dioxide as “electoral poison.”
“Is it true?”
Gillard:
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 3:12 pm
Bronwyn: a fine example of the modern, forward looking Liberal Party, as well as being a politician who isn’t embarrassed to treat any day as Halloween.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 3:19 pm
I’m supposed to be sending money to the ATO today. While I do this, I’m listening to Scott Morrison on the boat blowout and liar’s party hypocrisy in Parliament.
I’m very angry.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 3:25 pm
Good points, JC.
The Left are such moral morons that they don’t understand the difference between guilty life (a murderer facing the death penalty) and innocent life (a child being aborted).
Friedman, another hack …
Julian O'Dea
31 Oct 12 at 3:25 pm
Great one Scott. He just told Parliament that I’m angry. Well done.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 3:31 pm
Aren’t they Julian . The smug fuckers think they are so witty.
They should be embarrassed going for that stupid shit and any crap that deplorably stupid Friedman has to say in the nytimes.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 3:31 pm
This is great. Obama’s dearth of creativity and the fact he is exotic on the outside and boring on the inside would have made him perfect for diplomacy.
Abu Chowdah
31 Oct 12 at 3:33 pm
I wonder if michael Williamson’s daughter, media advisor to Ms Gillard, knew her father was a big time crook. What a cesspit these people are.
candy
31 Oct 12 at 3:33 pm
Absolutely pathetic questions being asked by the presstitutes of Bob Carr. Either they cannot think of what questions to ask or they are throwing Dorothy Dixers his way. Pathetic.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 3:38 pm
Phil Coorey leaves SMH for Financial Review.
Ouch!
m0nty
31 Oct 12 at 3:42 pm
candy,
you don’t get to be president of the liar’s party without knowing where the bodies are buried. Williamson will be trading what he knows for a reduced sentence / immunity. There are going to be a lot of worried labor ‘mates’. His daughter better start looking for alternative employment.
Keith
31 Oct 12 at 3:42 pm
Bolt makes some great stories but since that disgraceful white-black-fella court case, News Corp has allowed the leftist trolls to overrun his blog.
I like many others have had numerous posts lost in the great bit bucket memory hole. I notice Bolt doesn’t crow as much about hits on the blog.
NT Oldie
31 Oct 12 at 3:46 pm
So what’s bald idiot, Fabulous Phil going to do at the AFR, Fat boy? Run he Lying Slapper’s talking points for the day, as that’s all he did at the SMH, you dolt.
I dunno why you think that important news to be running to us with.
Are you excited? We’re not, no matter where the bald idiot ends up on that titanic taking in water.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 3:46 pm
I thought you would have enjoyed the snark in that quote, JC. Just your sort of thing.
m0nty
31 Oct 12 at 3:50 pm
This isn’t one of Stutch’s best appointments to say the least, Monst. He’ll end up regretting it.
In fact he could have saved a ton of money as all he needed to do was get on the ALP’s daily talking points email list and simply have a junior transcribe them.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 3:53 pm
Not even that… just copy and paste them.
JC
31 Oct 12 at 3:54 pm
It’s a win/win for both News and Fairfax in the short term. News gets to crow that it’s poaching journos from its main rival, and Fairfax doesn’t have to pay out severance to another veteran. It remains to be seen whether News can afford to be hiring given their other pressures.
m0nty
31 Oct 12 at 3:57 pm
Abolish Fed departments, return the right for the states to set their own taxes (even if ATO collects) and re-introduce many of the benefits of Federalisation, namely, the ability for states to compete with one another, while keeping a homogenous economic entity with completely free trade including capital and labour movement across state borders.
Thanks BRC. I’m trying to find ways of absolutely minimising government across the board. We need a Federal govt, that’s is just a fact. So I think we’re stuck with that. But in a highly connected an globalised economy I’m not sure we need State govts. Mind you that might reflect my being a Qlder and all the crap we’ve put up with from State govts over the decades.
Once you create a power structure is takes on a life of its own so I’d rather kill the beast outright.
We have too many layers of govt and while that may have had utility 100 years ago in today’s world do we really need people “that close to the ground”? Why not have one national education standard(in the only broadest possible terms a la Finland), one set of criminal and corporate laws, one set of policing policy, one rail system(!), one body to manage roads and other infrastructure issues? Is this possible? So when I think of municipalities I’m thinking of very large geographic regions, say Brisbane to Toowoomba down to the border, with little or no legislative power, only managing local infrastructure issues. And while we’re at it, why do we need Lord Mayors and all that crap?
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 3:59 pm
They’re both Fairfax titles?
Scapula
31 Oct 12 at 3:59 pm
So Stutch has decided to drive away even more readers by getting La Tingle and Punxatawney Phil to provide brain-dead analysis in tandem.
Maybe after Barry told him he couldn’t refer to Gillard’s knife-work (which the Labor troll uses often) Stutch has gone Fraser-tard and decided to suck up to the brain-dead left.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 4:00 pm
Isn’t the AFR a Fairfax publication?
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 4:00 pm
Oh wait it’s the Fin isn’t it. Never mind. Carry on.
m0nty
31 Oct 12 at 4:01 pm
Her mother, brother and other relatives were all on the HSU payroll at inflated rates.
Add to that her brother used HSU funds to buy and fit out a recording studio out west and her father had a magic gold AMEX.
I think she’d have an idea.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 4:02 pm
There’s not much difference between the editorial leanings of the Fin and the Oz these days, in my defence.
m0nty
31 Oct 12 at 4:02 pm
monty can now remove the rake from his face.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 4:02 pm
See how it works?
Yesterday: “Tony Abbott is a misogynist, he has a problem with women, he’s not fit to lead in the 21st century!”
Today “lolz look at bronwyn bishop she’s old and looks like a witch lolz!”
twostix
31 Oct 12 at 4:03 pm
mOnty: you’re letting the team down. I’ll have to tell head office to deduct a free Cabcharge off this week’s remuneration.
steve from brisbane
31 Oct 12 at 4:03 pm
I just got a haircut Gab, no Sideshow Bob look here!
m0nty
31 Oct 12 at 4:06 pm
“Tony Abbott is a misogynist, he has a problem with women, he’s not fit to lead in the 21st century!”
Julia Gillard is a misveracity, she has a problem with truth, she’s not fit to think.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 4:06 pm
“Add to that her brother used HSU funds to buy and fit out a recording studio out west and her father had a magic gold AMEX.”
They seem like that Thomson to have no idea that other people’s money is not theirs. Living off the hard work of their members paying union dues. Disgusting immoral bunch.
candy
31 Oct 12 at 4:07 pm
I don’t believe that’s an issue in her case.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 4:07 pm
I don’t believe that’s an issue in her case.
An empirically demonstrable truth statement.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 4:08 pm
Further evidence that the people who run newspapers are hastening their own demise. I wonder if this happened to the candlestick makers as well? “Aye tha’ Jimmy. Now he makes a good candle.”
I see News hasn’t allowed Our Jessica to grace the pages of The Australian. She seems to be confined to the outposts of thought, namely the Courier Mail and Mr Kate Ellis’s online dumping ground.
H B Bear
31 Oct 12 at 4:09 pm
She’s also a home-wrecking slut.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 4:09 pm
Candy from babies… it’s the Obama way.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 4:12 pm
She’s also a home-wrecking slut.
And imagine the stories if Tony Abbott had been caught out having an affair.
Not quite right Fleeced, she is a nation-wrecking adulterer.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 4:15 pm
I sit corrected.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 4:16 pm
Why would a supposed business and financial journal (hint – see its title) employ a lobotomised leftist loser with no knowledge of either business or finance, such as phil ‘bonehead’ coorey?
Oh wait – because it’s frigging fauxfacts, that’s why.
Rabz
31 Oct 12 at 4:16 pm
Time for Phabulous Phil to put on his thinking cap. With apologies to The Bunyip.
H B Bear
31 Oct 12 at 4:27 pm
“Bishop going after the Rodent over the slush fund again.
She won’t answer.
A Lib just thrown out for yelling “crook” or something.
She’s blaming Abbott for being “offensive.”
Does anyone keep count of the number of Opposition members being chucked out the house, as opposed to the Government benches?
Of course I understand that the ALP are very classy, truthful and decent upright citizens who wouldn’t dream of interjecting or, God forbid, shouting out across the floor, but maybe it has happened once or twice? And of course the Speaker would have no choice but to chuck out those foul-mouthed Liberal misogynists who dare to ask about union corruption. Especially if she can sense a motion coming on.
Winnedge
31 Oct 12 at 4:31 pm
Especially if she can sense a motion coming on.
If you watch Question Time too much you’ll get lots of motions which will drive you from the TV to the loo.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 4:34 pm
Potty mouth.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 4:50 pm
Ahahahahaha.
- Phil arrives at work.
- *ring ring*
- Hello.
- Phil, Julia.
- Hey.
- Yeah, emailing you today’s anti-Abbott stuff.
- Sweet. Thanks.
- Cop ya later.
- See-ya.
- Madge, Phil. Pop down to Maccas and get me some breakfast, there’s a love.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 4:55 pm
Really? She works for TLR?
FMD.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 4:56 pm
Medical science latest: fish oil pills a load of cobblers.
God, I’d love to be in the vitamin racket.
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Somebody said here the other day that Asians are systemic, habitual right-walkers. It’s TRUE. Just had to out-left-walk two Asian couples.
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 5:00 pm
TLR? The Lying Rodent? As in TLS, The Lying Slapper?
JC
31 Oct 12 at 5:03 pm
I think she was let go a few months ago when the HSU investigations hotted up.
Cold-Hands
31 Oct 12 at 5:23 pm
Yeah, Alexandra Williamson left the PM’s office in July.
Cold-Hands
31 Oct 12 at 5:25 pm
God, I’d love to be in the vitamin racket.
On another forum I regularly launch into Dr. Mercola from the USA. He is making a fortune peddling nonsense and selling supplements. I despise me for it.
There does seem to be a difference between fish and fish oil, it may relate to taurine, iodine, furan fats, don’t bloody well know. Nonetheless fish oil tablets do demonstrate value in relation to some health issues. The study you cite is a meta-analysis. As a friend of mine commented recently: when I see “meta-analysis” I reach for my revolver. With good reason, tired of this statistical fundamentalism. “Controlling for variables” is often hubris because it pre -supposes we know what variables to control for.
BTW, don’t fry fish, waste of good food and destroys the nutrients, with some studies indicating it provide worse health outcomes. Oven bake.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 5:28 pm
They are finding that sort of thing a lot. Nutrients in isolation are often less effective or even harmful. There must be some synergistic effects that are missing. That sort of makes sense because our bodies evolved to expect nutrients in certain combinations.
Also with fish oil, it’s possible a lot of the stuff on the shelves is rancid. Polyunsaturated fats are extremely fragile. Rancid fats aren’t very good for us at all.
The best bet IMO is to eat oily fish and lower your omega 6 intake (no seed oils for a start).
Dangph
31 Oct 12 at 5:29 pm
No No No, a thousand times no.
FFS stir fry, steam or poach fish.
Carpe Jugulum
31 Oct 12 at 5:43 pm
FMD
PM hits out at Coalition’s ‘nasty personal politics’
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-hits-out-at-coalitions-nasty-personal-politics-20121031-28jv8.html#ixzz2ArADBp4q
Viva
31 Oct 12 at 5:44 pm
How come Windsor wasn’t thrown out for barking like a dog (QT about 4pm).
The man is a dribbling moron.
Carpe Jugulum
31 Oct 12 at 5:46 pm
Yes becuase asking questions about this PM’s
crookedpast is verboten in Australistan.Gab
31 Oct 12 at 5:48 pm
What does it matter if a Lib is thrown out – it’s the only way to make a point because j. Gillard doesn’t answer questions.
candy
31 Oct 12 at 5:49 pm
Typical of the left the lying slapper wouldn’t recognise hypocrisy if it punched her in the face
Tiny Dancer
31 Oct 12 at 5:49 pm
Speaking of hypocrisy…
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 5:56 pm
“She” is an utter disgrace.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 5:58 pm
Speaking of hypocrisy…
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 5:59 pm
Speaking of hypocrisy…
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 6:09 pm
No No No, a thousand times no.
FFS stir fry, steam or poach fish.
The methods you cite are fine but repeated studies find oven baked is also fine. Read on …
“It appears that boiling or baking fish with low-sodium soy sauce [shoyu] and tofu is beneficial, while eating fried, salted or dried fish is not. In fact, these methods of preparation may contribute to your risk,” study author Lixin Meng said in a news release from the American Heart Association. “We did not directly compare boiled or baked fish versus fried fish, but one can tell from the [risk] ratios, boiled or baked fish is in the protective direction, but not fried fish.”
In conclusion, in this large population-based study, the intake of tuna or other broiled or baked fish was associated with improved cardiac hemodynamics, but fried fish intake was associated with structural abnormalities indicative of systolic dysfunction and potential coronary atherosclerosis. These findings suggest potential specific physiologic mechanisms that may, in part, account for the effects of fish intake on cardiovascular health.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 6:42 pm
I’m somewhat skeptical that pan-fried vs baking makes that much difference… I’d need to see more to be convinced.
Heck, I’ve been eating more fish (and pan-frying it) because “they” said it was good for you. Now it isn’t? I think I’m better off just ignoring everything.
Fleeced
31 Oct 12 at 6:47 pm
Being a QLDer you should recognise the need for local management right up the economic level. The last thing a place like QLD needs is people in Canberra deciding what’s good for the locals.
The further away the political power from the voter, the less the voter has a say. It’s a fact of life. I can go in and buttonhole my local councillor if need be. If the pollies have escaped to Canberra then they tend to descend into groupthink and forget their constituents.
No, you absolutely want your representative to be as local as possible. It’s bad enough for people in Cairns or Karratha to be managed by Brisbane and Perth respectively, having their tax dollars flashed around in Canberra is a disaster.
With state taxation (at income level) the federal beast gets starved, and basket cases like Tasmania get the thwack of economic reality far sooner when they go broke and need emergency loans.
The original design of the US constitution was right. The Australian constitution borrowed much of this. Both are about right, we just need to go back to that.
It’s the Federal departments which try and hoover up power and money that are the problem. A dept of education with no teachers, a dept of health with no doctors, a dept of climate change that can’t actually change the climate.
The feds should do things like aviation, defense, trade and foreign affairs. They should leave health, education, environmental planning roads and taxation to the states. For cross-border issues like the MDB then the states get together and fight it out, no federal override. Like I said the ATO can be kept as a collection agency, but states should set their own rates and receive their proceeds back from the ATO.
More state rivalry, less federal power. That’s the solution. The PM should be daily saying ‘I’m sorry, nothing I can do, talk to the premier responsible’. Instead, they currently invent schemes and departments to steal more power from the states, while keeping the premiers on as scapegoats.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 6:51 pm
I think I’m better off just ignoring everything.
You could have point there. A recent study on longevity found that happiness and purpose in life were very strong predictors. Suck on that materalists.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 6:51 pm
oven baked is also fine
Carpe Jugulum
31 Oct 12 at 6:55 pm
News on Nine
Queens (where fire destroyed 80 houses) is “the new Ground Zero”.
WTF? That just takes so much away from 9/11.
Why do they have to use these terms for things which are in no way similar, not even close.
*****
Oh goodie, the documents regarding the Health Payroll bungle have been released.
Interesting times for the ALP, I hope.
Annastacia is out there, she needs to know that denial is not a river…
kae
31 Oct 12 at 7:05 pm
Just received our electricity bill $2.50cpw carbon tax, $3.65cpw compensation. Total cost to us for 93 days, after solar and pensioner rebates $7.85c.
alan
31 Oct 12 at 7:07 pm
OK, forgive the possibly naive question, but is the Coalition using women like Bronwyn Bishop to attack Gillard so that she cannot hide behind her own skirts?
Julian O'Dea
31 Oct 12 at 7:11 pm
I can’t quite believe thats true, the Norwegians have been using cod liver oil for generations now. For a long time it was the only thing stopping them from getting severe vitamin D deficiencies and rickets. There’s a bottle of the stuff in pretty much every house.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 7:15 pm
Dear Julia
It concerns many Australians that your ethics and your honesty are called into question when issues concerning possible involvement in embezzlement of funds and dishonesty in founding legal entities for the depositing of these funds, are brought up. It does not matter how far in the past these actions are alleged to have occurred, that they occurred and that someone involved in them may be holding Australia’s highest office is of great concern.
It’s not because you are a woman.
It’s not because the Coalition have nothing else.
It’s not because Tony AbbottAbbottAbbott is sexist.
It’s not because Tony AbbottAbbottAbbott is a misogynist.
It’s because a lack of honour, ethics and alleged involvement criminal actions put the Prime Minister in a very bad light.
Remember, a pointer to this is the dishonesty shown in many things promised or stated by the current PM.
***
I’ll also point out that Tony AbbottAbbottAbbott is only a sexist/misogynist because the ALP has nothing else to fight the opposition with.
kae
31 Oct 12 at 7:16 pm
Heh, Julian, it doesn’t matter to old gillard:
The old shrieking harridan is certainly a fine one to make the charge of “nasty personal politics”.
gillard’s lost her laundry basket.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 7:17 pm
The opposition looked useless on the news. They need to do the AWU corruption through the media. They clearly can’t prosecute it through parliament. If this is the best they can do then they need to get stuck into the govt over policy. FMD how hard is it to get into the govt v er any number of policies.
They should attack other ministers until they can sort out how to deal with the lying slapper.
Tiny Dancer
31 Oct 12 at 7:20 pm
Oh, Julie Bishop. I thought it was Bronwyn.
If Julia G really said that, she is hopeless.
Julian O'Dea
31 Oct 12 at 7:23 pm
Thanks BRC. Food for thought, just after dinner.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 7:23 pm
Video: Julie Bishop in action, gillard shrieking and avoiding the questions.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 7:25 pm
But pan fried flathead, whiting and garfish are DELICIOUS!
Abu Chowdah
31 Oct 12 at 7:29 pm
Looks like Slipper is on the same side as the free marketeers. Sinc, do you want to give him a guest post?
Slipper lashes Coalition over ‘flawed’ wheat stance
SteveC
31 Oct 12 at 7:38 pm
Any time anyone wants to do a guest post they are welcome to email me.
Sinclair Davidson
31 Oct 12 at 7:42 pm
Traditional cod liver oil is fermented. It is an entirely different thing to modern fish oil which is heat extracted. Fermented cod liver oil is more stable, they say, and there are no high temperatures involved in its production, so there should be less rancidity. It’s also more of a whole food than an isolated nutrient.
I take Green Pasture fermented cod liver / butter oil blend myself, not so much for the omega 3 but for the A, D, and K2.
Dangph
31 Oct 12 at 7:42 pm
Meanwhilespare a thought for Haiti.</a?
Septimus
31 Oct 12 at 7:51 pm
Get back to me on wheat deregulation when oil prices are not determined by overseas cartels and when wheat and other agricultural products are no longer subsidised by either the EU or USA for their own producers, sometimes in roundabout ways.
Not to mention China’s blatant currency fiddle.
blogstrop
31 Oct 12 at 7:53 pm
blogstrop 7:53
+1
jumpnmcar
31 Oct 12 at 7:57 pm
OMG
Aldi have turduken*!
Three bird roast, 1.5kg
turkey tenderloin and duck breast wrapped in a de-boned whole chicken and filled with cranberry, apple and maple stuffing…
Might give it a whirl!
*sorta
kae
31 Oct 12 at 8:07 pm
Video of today’s exchange wherein Julie Bishop destroys Julia Gillard.
The interjection that led to a Liberal’s ejection was not “crook” as I heard it earlier today. He actually yelled, “YOU’RE CORRUPT!”
Watch as Gillard continually asserts that Bishop the woman is not capable of wanting answers herself; watch till the end and note that the government frontbench guffaws bloke-ily when Bishop laments the insult she feels “as a woman.”
That interjection again: “YOU’RE CORRUPT!”
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 8:10 pm
the omega 3 but for the A, D, and K2.
K2, thanks for that. A friend of mine sent me mountains of abstracts on how K2 is essential for preventing tissue calcification and also has some anti-inflammatory properties. The current advice for high VIT D loading and calcium is dangerous without K2 and a recent study found that those taking calcium supplements are x2 the risk for cardiac problems. I *think* kale is also a very good source of K2.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 8:13 pm
Napolitano at the Mises Institute.
Driftforge
31 Oct 12 at 8:17 pm
Wow corn must be the most versatile crop on the planet. It grows in Haiti which is tropical and in dry parts of Mexico, Europe, the northern US and I don’t even know where it’s grown here but it’s definitely somewhere.
DaveF
31 Oct 12 at 8:20 pm
WOW. Richo just got his fat arse handed to him by fat arsed Alan Jones on Richos own show.
All friendly like mind you.
And it’s still on now.
Sky 601
jumpnmcar
31 Oct 12 at 8:34 pm
Richo calls the game a deuce.LOL
jumpnmcar
31 Oct 12 at 8:41 pm
Bishop’s come into her own since Gillard’s hysterical breakdown in parlament.
twostix
31 Oct 12 at 8:41 pm
Any vid link?
C.L.
31 Oct 12 at 8:44 pm
Note how SMH who hosts that vid characterise it:
Prime Minister Julia Gillard responds to questions about her involvement in an alleged AWU slush fund by turning the blow torch on Tony Abbott.
JamesK
31 Oct 12 at 8:47 pm
Any vid link?
jumpnmcar
31 Oct 12 at 8:59 pm
Kale and other vegies have K1, which seems to be quite different in effect to K2. K2 seems to be the good stuff.
K2 is only found in animal and fermented foods. (Yes, folks, meat is good for you.)
I like this guy on nutrition: http://chriskresser.com/vitamin-k2-the-missing-nutrient
Also this just popped up yesterday in my YouTube subscriptions, I like this guy too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGI3Os9B4sY
Dangph
31 Oct 12 at 9:09 pm
>Wow corn must be the most versatile crop on the planet.
I’ve pretty much given up on my other crops for the garden because they are so hard to get good results without a lot of attention. Corn, Pineapples and herbs are my specialty now. I’ve got rows of corn in at the moment, hopefully ready for a Christmas harvest, lots of fresh kernels on the BBQ.
Corn grows well and tastes great when picked fresh. I recommend it.
brc
31 Oct 12 at 9:10 pm
I see no reason why the Coalition can’t attack j.gillard on all fronts now.
She’s called tony aBBott a coward, a thug, a liar, a misogynist, sexist, jack the ripper, and stolen the Coalition policies.
And yet in truth she’s totally corrupt herself.
candy
31 Oct 12 at 9:10 pm
Her father died of shame, candy.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 9:12 pm
Absolutely – for a small yard try growing baby corn (lush), snow peas and bean sprouts.
The latter you will need a flame thrower to control.
Carpe Jugulum
31 Oct 12 at 9:15 pm
brc
Tomatoes are the best in my garden, just plant African marigolds and a few Chile bushes very close.
jumpnmcar
31 Oct 12 at 9:19 pm
Thanks for the link Drift, I’ve been looking forward to hear him speak.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 9:28 pm
Don’t be silly – lefties have no shame.
Sinclair Davidson
31 Oct 12 at 9:30 pm
Alan
So pleased you’re ahead.
Thanks for jacking up my power bill with your oversubsidised solar.
kae
31 Oct 12 at 9:43 pm
Sorry, I kinda hallucinated
fish poached in miandry, then realised who I was thinking of.
Ick.
kae
31 Oct 12 at 9:44 pm
I would have thought ” Former Australian Labor Party National president 2009-10″
would trump ” Ex HSU President ” to any newspaper editor worth their salt.
jumpnmcar
31 Oct 12 at 9:46 pm
You just don’t know what great flavours are.
Carpe Jugulum
31 Oct 12 at 9:48 pm
Don’t worry, the war on carbin will get Alan.
Wait until he takes the blinkers off and sees what is happening to food and council service costs as the people who are paying for his subsidised electricity pass on the costs so they can keep providing him stuff he needs.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 10:01 pm
Kale and other vegies have K1, which seems to be quite different in effect to K2. K2 seems to be the good stuff.
Yeah I’ve just spent the last half hour reading up on it. K1 has some benefits but K2 as MK-7 definitely seems better. Also worrying to note, as my friend had warned me, that Vit D. loading in the absence of Ks is dangerous. All those people taking calcium supplements and vitamin D, not to mention an entire generation living on fast foods which have near zero Ks. The Vit D\VIT A balance seems important. Also noted some studies suggesting(only that) K2s might be preventative against liver cancer.
Thanks for the heads up, I should have paid more attention to that mountain of abstracts.
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 10:06 pm
That vid involving ‘that woman’ and Bishop is incredible.’That woman’ believes she can bluff her way out. BTW,what is going on with her forehead?
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 10:08 pm
“pensioner rebates $7.85c.”
alan’s a welfare recipient too and gets the rate he quoted above so the rest of us are supporting him in that way too
candy
31 Oct 12 at 10:09 pm
Botox wearing off.
Sinclair Davidson
31 Oct 12 at 10:10 pm
Bishop has gone up in my estimation for her hunting down that swine over the last few weeks.I think she has got her..
max49
31 Oct 12 at 10:11 pm
or for something completely different how about just eating fresh whole foods and letting nature and your body sort it out?
pete m
31 Oct 12 at 10:15 pm
LOL. No, it’s not wrinkles, but discolouration in the centre of her forehead. It could simply be poorly applied foundation. Whatever it was, she looked hideous. She looks as if she’s aged 10 years in the last month or so.
dover_beach
31 Oct 12 at 10:15 pm
Fresh whole foods? Nature? Like savages!
Why don’t we all just revert back to eating plankton and algae while we’re at it!
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 10:20 pm
I notice Hillary Clinton has aged as quickly since the Benghazi scandal broke.
It is interesting how Howard did not age as quickly or badly.
Token
31 Oct 12 at 10:20 pm
The righteous sleep well Token..
max49
31 Oct 12 at 10:22 pm
Howard took everything in his stride, the man was born for the job.
It is actually truly remarkable how he has remained the dignified elder statesman even into his retirement instead of being eaten up by the same bitterness that enveloped his predecessors.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 10:22 pm
He looks freaky weird without glasses though.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 10:23 pm
Looks freaky weird with glasses,,lol
max49
31 Oct 12 at 10:25 pm
I bet Howard goes to bed at night with a big smile on his face knowing that every time he smiles happily and contentedly in front of a camera, somewhere a lefty is gnashing his teeth.
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 10:25 pm
touché Max!
Jeremiah
31 Oct 12 at 10:27 pm
kae, 9:44pm
miandry
that’d be misandry
kae
31 Oct 12 at 10:34 pm
US Presidential election:
Either the national polls are wrong, or the state polls are wrong. The state and national polls can’t both be right.
In short, if you add up all the state polls, weighting them by the population of each state, then it turns out Obama’s ahead by two overall. But the nationwide polls of Gallup, Rasmussen etc show that Romney is ahead, on average, by 1.
Sean Trende confesses that he doesn’t know which is right. There are arguments both ways. For instance, the national polls have large samples and are done by reputable organisations with a track record. Also the national polls were more accurate than the state polls in 2008. On the other hand, state polls collectively have a much larger sample size, and have the capacity to drill down into the demographic strata.
dd
31 Oct 12 at 11:05 pm
Like savages, yes. That’s the trick. Hunter gatherers and other traditional societies don’t get the chronic diseases we do, such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc.
Evolution is an ingenious designer, but at the same time it’s blind and stupid. Our bodies can’t handle a lot of the novel crap we throw at them simply because we haven’t evolved to handle it. The trick is to eat what we evolved to eat, or at least to approximate it as best we can.
It works for me anyway. I’m in robust good health and I’m pretty lean.
I like this guy’s advice: http://www.archevore.com/get-started/
Dangph
31 Oct 12 at 11:12 pm
or for something completely different how about just eating fresh whole foods and letting nature and your body sort it out?
If you want to lose weight yes because cooking releases a lot of calories. But as a regular diet no way, cooking also releases lots of nutrients and destroys nasties.
LOL. No, it’s not wrinkles, but discolouration in the centre of her forehead.
Interesting case report: Is female patient forehead discolouration evidence of frontal lobe dysfunction?
Dead Soul
31 Oct 12 at 11:13 pm
Seven more sleeps and we’ll know who’s right, DD!
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 11:14 pm
If Romney does win, most Americans are going to be perplexed as to how it happened after being force fed bullshit polling numbers for the last 6 months.
Infidel Tiger
31 Oct 12 at 11:16 pm
And how will Australians – only 7% of whom are said to support Romney – react?
AAAAAHHHHH! It’ll be like 2004 all over again — get the popcorn!
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 11:35 pm
As I suspected, 2010 changes to the commercial radio codes of practice (which don’t apply to the ABC) are being used by the Australian Communications and Media Authority as a politically motivated attack dog against top-rating Sydney station 2GB. ACMA earlier this month ordered “re-education” for Alan Jones over a trivial issue to do with climate change and has now ruled in favour of a troll who has been harrassing Jones and Ray Hadley. Beyond belief. Absolutely disgraceful. The latest “complaint”. Hadley’s response (click on the “ACMA” link).
Tom
31 Oct 12 at 11:40 pm
I’m off to Jacksonville in a bit. Going to peruse Tim Blair’s old old blog archive from November 2004 on the way to give me a taste of what to expect next week xD
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 11:45 pm
Bon voyage, Spot. keep in touch with the Cat.
Gab
31 Oct 12 at 11:47 pm
A Nasty Piece of Work
She rides into the parliament
astride upon her broom
Her witch’s nose up in the air
as she surveys the Speaker’s chair
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
Blood red hair
on pallid cheeks
Black snake’s eyes
Her raucous shrieks
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
In Europe and the USA
tonight is Halloween
The time when witches ride abroad
with strange things to be seen
But in Australia sad to say
our Halloween is every day
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
Viva
31 Oct 12 at 11:47 pm
Stay safe, Spot.
Wonder where all those people are now, those who we don’t see any more. Perhaps they got lives?
LOL
I was hanging around in 2004… eek!
kae
31 Oct 12 at 11:55 pm
From Tom’s link.
So lèse majesté is basically a crime in Australia now, one which Mr Hadley should consider himself lucky to have been “let off the hook” for… this time?
Jesus wept.
sdog
31 Oct 12 at 11:58 pm
=)
sdog
1 Nov 12 at 12:00 am
The Aussie reaction – so much more isolated – will be much more frantic/enjoyable!
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 12:09 am
“then it turns out Obama’s ahead by two overall. But the nationwide polls of Gallup, Rasmussen etc show that Romney is ahead, on average, by 1.”
Isn’t the margin of error approx. 3%? In other words, the polls agree – it’s a statistical tie.
Jarrah
1 Nov 12 at 12:16 am
“the commercial radio codes of practice (which don’t apply to the ABC)”
The ABC has its own code of practice, which is stricter and more comprehensive.
Jarrah
1 Nov 12 at 12:18 am
Some lunatic friend of my wife’s was urging people on her facebook page to donate to Obama. She was giving them her US address so they’d be able to.
The post included reference to the Koch Bros, big oil and abortion rights.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 12:21 am
…and policed by the ABC. That is why the ABC in no way represents the people who pay the bills. It is an utterly corrupt system.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 12:41 am
You’re a leftist space-cadet Jarrah.
JamesK
1 Nov 12 at 12:48 am
“…and policed by the ABC.”
No, by ACMA. Same as the commercial broadcasters.
“You’re a leftist space-cadet Jarrah.”
You wouldn’t sound so whiny and petulant if you made an actual argument, JamesK.
Jarrah
1 Nov 12 at 12:59 am
And totally ignored.
twostix
1 Nov 12 at 1:02 am
Gingrich: story could break in the next two days…
Or will the story end up being that the media organisations put the emails in the Obama vault?
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:03 am
The remarkable thing about Howard is that he looks healthier now than when he was younger in the 70′s. maybe because he gave up the smokes and all those morning walks.
Dan
1 Nov 12 at 1:03 am
ACMA oversees only commercial and community broadcasting, not the ABC.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 1:10 am
To spell it out, ACMA does have a theoretical hands-off role in overseeing ABC content, but has never used it, to my knowledge:
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 1:29 am
Pregnancy and antidepressants (SSRIs) a bad mix.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 1:39 am
Defamation case against Abbott proceeds:
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:48 am
US trader.
He’s damned right.
Seriously the amount of bullshit expanded on this storm was incredible.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 1:56 am
Savva brilliantly nails Gillard’s politics of distraction.
Bon voyage Spot.
CC
1 Nov 12 at 2:07 am
You’re not wrong. About the same number died thanks to Gillard at Christmas Island and I don’t recall the world giving a rat’s arse.
Come to that, I don’t recall the Labor government giving a rat’s arse.
For the past few days ABC Online has had big live home page coverage of Sandy. It’s the New York angle, of course. Lefties, luvvies and journalists (BIRM) see the Big Apple as their Vatican City.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 2:28 am
Lots of lol.. It’s it’s most unattractive feature.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 2:37 am
Damn iPad
It’s its
JC
1 Nov 12 at 2:38 am
I’m impressed at Government Motors ability to sprint to the finish line. Aren’t you?
JC
1 Nov 12 at 2:43 am
Not really. It’s another one of her Grattan-like “can do better” pretend-critiques. Look at the last line of the piece, for example.
benson
1 Nov 12 at 2:45 am
You know, stock markets are sometimes fully retarded. Idiots were buying stocks this morning on the basis that the clean up was going to raise GDP. This is full retard mode at the macro level. In fact it has to be the stupidest Keynesian meme since… going into debt and spending like a drunken sailor was thought to be genius stuff.
Anyways stocks are heading lower now as they ought to be.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 3:27 am
This is full retard mode at the macro level.
Earlier tonight I looked up some national debt to GDP ratios and was shocked at the numbers. Lot of debt in governments JC, I can’t see the situation resolving very quickly. Actually I’m wondering if any more blips could create serious chaos; especially given the latest unemployment figures from the eurozone, and in Britain there seems to be a rising resentment against the austerity measures with still no sign of recovery.
Thoughts?
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 3:38 am
Oh great, voting patterns dictated by how one walks. We’re doomed.
To those uncommitted voters whose views are gold to political parties, the cringe factor that comes when they think about Abbott’s confident strut is followed swiftly with a series of negative impressions – arrogant, cocky, angry.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 3:56 am
Yes DS (but what austerity measures in Britain?).
Where in the world is there not a deeply entrenched and bipartisan culture of over-spending and over-regulation?
People are mostly living in a parallel universe of denial, hence the term “austerity” applied to the idea of living within our means.
Poor Old Rafe
1 Nov 12 at 4:20 am
RAFE,
Apparently Cameron commissioned Heseltine to prepare a report on the British economy and Heseltine has blasted the govt stating their austerity measures are wrecking the place. So I’m using the word in the way that those people are using it. I take your point though but you’ll have to contact the Macquarie people about yet another word that needs fixing.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 4:37 am
RAFE,
Apparently Cameron commissioned Heseltine to prepare a report on the British economy and Heseltine has blasted the govt stating their austerity measures are wrecking the place. So I’m using the word in the way that those people are using it. I take your point though but you’ll have to contact the Macquarie people about yet another word that needs fixing. And oddly enough another insomnia night so I am reading a book “not exactly: in praise of vagueness”, Kees Van Deemter. Interesting, currently reading the sections on language.
Oh I wish I could sleep ….
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 4:39 am
John, so is it now okay not to vote for Gillard because she has an arse like a set of BMW panniers?
Abu Chowdah
1 Nov 12 at 4:55 am
John, so is it now okay not to vote for Gillard because she has an arse like a set of BMW panniers?
Any reason is permissible.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 5:11 am
My super fund is mamaging around 4 percent for the cash option, while the bonds option is yielding much more. Is there, however, a greater risk inherent in that, or to put it another way, are they investing in bonds in countries who might fail to pay?
If not, one really should be in bonds, since the sharemarket is just not doing much at all, and cash is pretty low.
Blogstrop
1 Nov 12 at 6:34 am
More on the increasing irrelevance of the MSM.
Despite Media Blackout, Obama Sits at 51% Disapproval On Libya
Pressure on Commie Facebook forces back down
Update: Facebook Reverses, Allows SEALs’ Post Critical of Obama
Twitter still not allowing #benghazi to trend.
More pressure on commie twitter needed.
T-W-I-T-T-E-R- WILL NOT LET #BENGHAZI TREND do it’s ( #4DeadAmericans ) from here on out #tcot #p2 #tlot #Ohio #Florida #Libya
Rudiau
1 Nov 12 at 7:12 am
Potemkin’s Village
Many connect with the phrases as “Divine Feminine”, “Matriarchal Societies”… here
Grigory Potemkin
1 Nov 12 at 7:39 am
Wow, sounds serious.
I know what we can do, it is time for another post from the Libertairans suggesting a Romney = Obama and criticising his posturing over trade with China.
Of course, just ignore the self-censorship by the media insiders, lets focus on a Obama/Gillard talking points.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 8:06 am
Biden: ‘I’m Going to Give You the Whole Load Today’
“As they say in my business, I’m going to give you the whole load today,”
JamesK
1 Nov 12 at 8:06 am
Iowa warns international observers of arrest
I pray Romney asks the UN to leave NY and removes the US from the UN
JamesK
1 Nov 12 at 8:09 am
I repeat what I said the other day, it is likely Obama will be impeached over Libya if he wins and there is a more than tiny chance that Biden will become president in the next 2 years.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 8:13 am
The Toe-sucker in The Hill newspaper op-ed:
Here comes the landslide
JamesK
1 Nov 12 at 8:16 am
Labor demonstrates yet again they have the intelligence equivalent to a small shrub.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/miners-stockpile-mrrt-credits/story-fnb56a2t-1226507904310
Gee, couldn’t see that one happening. lol.
Keith
1 Nov 12 at 8:18 am
These folk are geographically challenged.
Keith
1 Nov 12 at 8:20 am
In all the rapture about China and fears of the US playing power politics with the Chinese government, the emerging stories of the rampant crony capitalism in the polit-bureau seems to be ignored:
The article then moves onto to the kleptocrat class in the US lead by Al Gore and followed by the donors to the Obama/Biden campaign in 2008.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 8:22 am
FFS, I can’t believe the unmitigated gall of this sleazey prick.
Warning: Video of lobotomised musselman, piece in SMH by bonehead coorey, shagger thomson subject matter…
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 8:36 am
Then they’ll really end up getting the “whole load”…
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 8:38 am
Doggerel is easy Viva.
With muscled body Tony strides
Into the house where his enemy hides
“I hope you lefties die of shame
If you live or die it’s all the same
With my sharp policies below my belt
I’ll skin youse alive and eat your pelt”
His term as King is already rocky
‘Cos in the wings stands Lord Joe Hockey
Another aspirant to the seat
Is Malcom Turnbul cool and neat.
His Deputy so loyal and posh
Is ready to serve her fourth new boss.
Don’t worry says Tony “I’ll beat you all
And if I can’t I’ll punch a wall”.
Stick to prose Viva.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 9:10 am
Bravo, Alan! You’re an example for all government trolls. That took at least five minutes to put together, even if it’s not particularly witty or funny. Still, it’s a worry you have nothing else to do in the PMO on a weekday morning. You should give it a run over at The Dumb.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 9:37 am
Hi alan.
0/10.
Give John Laws a ring, he may need a ghost writer.
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 9:43 am
alan
1 Nov 12 at 9:53 am
There used to be a Park named Callan
For those with derangements just like Alan’s.
blogstrop
1 Nov 12 at 9:54 am
Hi alan.
0/10.
Give John Laws a ring, he may need a ghost writer.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 10:00 am
Hi alan,
No, it’s merely an example of staggeringly bad poetry.
Such stunning mediocrity deserves recognition.
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 10:02 am
I heard a journo on RN wittering on about the flooding in New York. He informed us that the water damage was mostly inside the buildings and that somehow “they” would have to get all the water out of where it shouldn’t be.
Most informative.
Julian O'Dea
1 Nov 12 at 10:07 am
Rabz, I know you like poking the trolls, but keep in mind he says he’s a pensioner so he has not limits to stop him wasting your day with thread clogging trollery.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 10:10 am
I thought they only said that to their interns?
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 10:11 am
Token
1 Nov 12 at 10:14 am
How about a comment on this one? Equally as bad as mine. But as it is about Julia Gillard it is admissable. Any criticism of King Tony is not allowed. This is supposed to be a forum “A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website”. The discussion on this site seems to be restricted to plaudits for the right. Wake up to yourselves. And by the way I am a pensioner, I don’t just claim I’m something I’m not.
A Nasty Piece of Work
She rides into the parliament
astride upon her broom
Her witch’s nose up in the air
as she surveys the Speaker’s chair
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
Blood red hair
on pallid cheeks
Black snake’s eyes
Her raucous shrieks
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
In Europe and the USA
tonight is Halloween
The time when witches ride abroad
with strange things to be seen
But in Australia sad to say
our Halloween is every day
Behind her Labor covens lurk
She is a nasty piece of work
alan
1 Nov 12 at 10:31 am
Yes, yes, we heard you the first time, squire…
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 10:37 am
Eek. A white person.
Insincerest hug ever.
(ABC Online).
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 10:56 am
A two-roll of 3-ply job if ever i saw one.
Nic
1 Nov 12 at 11:00 am
In other new, CL: The reverend who gave Obama’s inaugural benediction thinks all white people are going to Hell
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 11:00 am
Instapundit picks up a great angle on this:
Token
1 Nov 12 at 11:05 am
This was probably a zionist cow.
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 11:14 am
You’ve now strayed into serious trolling territory, you fruitcake. Apparently a member of the sub-species of human who grows old without learning anything, you apparently think this site should be whatever you want it to be.
It is not your fantasy. It is not a government echo chanmber (the government has bought a number you could try). Fuck off.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 11:19 am
Drudge is creating waves:
Token
1 Nov 12 at 11:33 am
Such a tease!
[Insert joke about Obama coming from behind]
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 11:36 am
Good Lord, Quentin Bryce looks like a pink musk stick.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 11:39 am
Also from Drudge:
OHIO: MORE VOTING PROBLEMS AS BALLOT CAST FOR ROMNEY COMES UP OBAMA…
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 11:44 am
Snoop Doggy Lion sets out his views on the presidential candidates.
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 11:58 am
The Crikey-aligned government trolls that News Limited bought are now almost as frantic as as our own Dogshit:
Since when was the BCA invaded by Keynesians?
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 12:06 pm
Since day one.
All the business groups in Australia are fronted by spivs and moochers. Corporate Australia is a disgrace and no friend of people who believe in free enterprise, liberty and getting their freak on.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 12:21 pm
Alan, we tried to just ignore that other effort, but you’re intent on championing dodgy doggerel.
This is not an equal opportunity blog. You have plenty of other places to go if us favouring conservative, libertarian or right wing points of view are not to your taste. Given the predominantly left leaningness of our mass media, and the extension of our ABC into more and more online commentary sites, you have a smorgasbord of venues to hawk your wares, such as they be.
blogstrop
1 Nov 12 at 12:23 pm
Taking money from future generations and giving it to the present generation of crony capitalists isn’t an economically winning strategy.
It’s like living in a dystopan nightmare where the world is run by kids still living at home.
twostix
1 Nov 12 at 12:27 pm
Leftists – so spoiled in the the pop-left dominated mass culture think that “discussion” and “tolerance” is them talking, lecturing, and haranguing and nobody ever disagreeing with them.
twostix
1 Nov 12 at 12:30 pm
There is no recognition of this. They are making shit up. The recognition runs against this.
.
1 Nov 12 at 12:35 pm
Drudge releases more.
Senator, has someone finally confirmed those very serious rumours about Harry Reid?
Token
1 Nov 12 at 12:37 pm
National Review f**ks with “Coal cars” Manns mind:
Token
1 Nov 12 at 12:40 pm
Alan
Seriously, fuck off. And you shouldn’t be a pensioner anyway in Australia. Stop mooching off the taxpayer.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 12:40 pm
That ad is just great. It will piss off the little turd to no end. He feels no shame obviously.
Nasty looking little thing he is.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 12:43 pm
He’s to science what a chiwawa is to the dog world.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 12:47 pm
That’s a great move by NR. Buckley would be proud.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 12:54 pm
Trick spelling, JC: Chihuahua.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 12:57 pm
Is it? Okay. I’m with you Tom.
—————
Upper Eastside Manhattan is back to normal, it seems except for the subway. All the crap has been cleaned up by the looks of things.
Douchebag Bloomberg is only allowing 3 people to drive into the city each morning. Of course that rule wouldn’t apply to him.
I fucking despise that fascist arsehole.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 1:02 pm
Australian awarded VC . Well done Corporal Daniel Keighran, 6th Battalion RAR!
Cold-Hands
1 Nov 12 at 1:03 pm
From the NRO Nobel ad on Mann:
Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in several decades…
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 1:08 pm
Exclusive: Classified cable warned consulate couldn’t withstand ‘coordinated attack’
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 1:10 pm
No point going to a center left site, they are as crazy left as you are loony right.
Welcome back JC I’ve missed you.
Are your new jeans as full of self opinionated crap as I’m sure you filled your old ones during the storm.
My regards to wifey, she probably thinks as well of you as I do.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 1:11 pm
Ahahahahahaha.
They’re pan-handling dole-bludgers, always have been.
Angle fail.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:14 pm
Sinc, clean up required in aisle #11.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 1:21 pm
I note that Quentin Bryce is wearing her full array of war medals – including the one she received for services to netball.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:23 pm
Is it just me or do they issue a lot more VCs nowadays?
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 1:26 pm
O’Farrell’s New South Wales: police state.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:26 pm
Latest on Drudge sex scandal thingammy says it apparently involves “powerful” senator, and that daily caller is planning late-night release.
Drudge often overhypes things, so it may not amount to much, but it amuses me to think that several senators are thinking to themselves right now, “Shit, I hope it’s not me!”
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 1:26 pm
Yes I was wondering what all those medals were on Bryce, especially that large dangling one. I didn’t realise she had served in a war. Did I mention Bryce looked like a giant musk stick today?
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 1:26 pm
Oh dear – there goes the wingnut’s favourite fantasy that Obama will be outed as hosting gay orgies in the oval office just before the election.
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 1:28 pm
Lets see, best hat at the Melbourne Cup? highest spender at Myers in Canberra?
Nic
1 Nov 12 at 1:29 pm
*snicker* only old people say that anymore.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 1:30 pm
Nah, he’ll do that after the election, sfb – before he has to vacate.
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 1:31 pm
VCs are the new army recruiting ads: one a year required, I suspect. To hell with the consequences. You get that when the brass is doing its best not to offend the Greens and other America-haters.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 1:31 pm
It’s a touchy question. The acts are worthy of commendation, including this latest one. However…
Rudd was heavily involved, IMO, in arranging for the first one out of Afghanistan. There does seem to be a – shall we say – PR awareness of their saleability vis-a-vis a stupid, unwinnable war. My great uncle was decorated in France in 1917 for acts of comparable – probably superior – bravery but not with a VC. There is the distinct risk of the bar being lowered.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:32 pm
Quentin Brice is wearing a huge gaudy gold disc amongst her decorations. I can only assume that it’s her AC. It looks like the sort of thing a third world generalissimo would wear. I wonder who designed the tasteless bauble?
Cold-Hands
1 Nov 12 at 1:34 pm
Fleeced, in case you hadn’t noticed, the Presidential looking Obama, who Christie has not been able to stop praising in the last couple of days, is polling well in some key States and is expected to win by most Americans, most people betting on it, and most of the rest of the world. Except Pakistan. As with Pakistan, Catallaxy hopes Obama will lose.
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 1:35 pm
Ahahahahahaha.
As with Tehran, Steve hopes Romney will lose.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 1:41 pm
While I can still be bothered to post here JC, I understand that you are some kind of day trader that makes a living out of picking the flesh from the bones that were left after Mr. Howard trashed Aussie pensioners retirement funds when he sold them Telstra. A company that they owned anyway. Perhaps these poor people would not be entitled to a pension either.
How many votes are the coalition going to lose by not backing the deregulation of wheat sales? Maybe there is a profit in that you Cannibal.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 1:45 pm
Alan
Go to the letterbox and see if the pension cheque has arrived, you old moocher. No need to worry about my jeans or concern yourself about wifey.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 1:47 pm
I don’t day trade stocks Alan, you sanctimonious old moocher. I do however trade stocks.
If you think its easy to make money in markets, perhaps you ought to fling your next pension cheque at name and see how that works out for you.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 1:53 pm
Yea like it would take you all week to check the letterbox as you’re too busy.
A sure sign of a leftwing twerp is a comment similar to the one above.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 1:58 pm
Don’t cry, Steve… it will be over soon.
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 2:00 pm
LOL!
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 2:01 pm
Yes you did. Sweetist.
Keith
1 Nov 12 at 2:02 pm
For fans of The Walking Dead. Funny.
Every episode of TWD broken down.
DaveF
1 Nov 12 at 2:13 pm
This is the third VC awarded for Afghanistan over the 10+ years that we’ve been there. Compared to the number of troops involves, there does seem to be a disproportionate number of medals awarded, however each engagement gets far more scrutiny than ever before. It is more likely that more medals should have been awarded in previous wars rather than that the bar is being lowered unduly.
Cold-Hands
1 Nov 12 at 2:19 pm
Forester
1 Nov 12 at 2:19 pm
I don’t know if this has already been posted here but anyway…
Leno Pounds Obama on Benghazi-Gate
Nanuestalker
1 Nov 12 at 2:19 pm
I’m tired of Bronco Bamma & Mitt Romney too!
Nanuestalker
1 Nov 12 at 2:25 pm
JC.
Electronic transfer old chum. Do try to keep up. No wonder you can’t make a good living from cannibalism.
Maybe you should try to get a job as a brickie’s laborer, make some real money.
Buy your wifey some nice perfume instead of treating her like a possession.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 2:27 pm
Just watching Greg Combet in the House.
I’m convinced he’s actually a woman.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 2:32 pm
Misogynist!
Cold-Hands
1 Nov 12 at 2:39 pm
Thanks for the link Nanuestalker.
Cold-Hands
1 Nov 12 at 2:42 pm
While we’re making wild speculative assertions, I’d say your great uncle would tell you to pull your head in.
Abu Chowdah
1 Nov 12 at 2:42 pm
Enough of this name calling. Let’s get down to serious debate.
Is it true that Julie Bishop has false teeth?
Is it also true that Mitt Romney sleeps in magical underwear and believes that The Angel Moroni gave Mr. Smith 12 golden tablets indicating the truth, and then conveniently took them back again? A test of faith perhaps? Or maybe a confidence trick or the ravings of a lunatic.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 2:47 pm
Fuck off, troll.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 2:50 pm
Alan’s credentials are now firmly established. Gab can let us know which previously banned person it is this time – no doubt someone SfB was missing.
blogstrop
1 Nov 12 at 2:53 pm
Nothing ‘speculative’ about it. I’ve read the historical citations from the old VCs. The modern VCs don’t even come close to measuring up.
If the criteria have changed, that’s fine, but the bar has been lowered.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 2:55 pm
Well done Israel Folau. He fleeced the AFL of millions and is now heading back to Rugby League.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 3:01 pm
A win for the NRL and for the AFL.
The list at the WSG has got infinitely better and there are a lot of wages freed up.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 3:03 pm
I am sure Dik Morris is correct.
When has he ever got anything wrong?
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 3:05 pm
The details relating to Benghazi get worse:
Fox News, probably the only news agency that is consistently breaking news on this issue. The rest are AWOL (cunning stunts).
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 3:12 pm
I have to admit that I don’t consider myself to be a Troll as I am seriously trying to get some debate going that is not based on the looks or personal habits of the contributors. All you lot are interested in is things like Fleeced’s rotten foot.If anybody dares to question your judgmental style, or even looks left before crossing, they are immediately ganged up on.
How an educated well, qualified man like Mr. Davidson puts up with the one sided jibes and opinions is beyond me.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 3:13 pm
Alan said:
Now the whining hypocrite Alan says:
This troll I don’t recognise. I don’t recall one appearing here to be this blatantly stupid.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 3:17 pm
We “own” HMAS Adelaide, too, Alan. I am just trying to see if it can pick me up at Williamstown before it leaves for exercises in Hawaii.
James in Melbourne
1 Nov 12 at 3:18 pm
Lol
He could start by banning you, you moronic mooching self unaware douchebag.
As I said earlier.. Fuck off alan. Go check to see if the pension cheque is in the letterbox.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 3:20 pm
Well, he puts up with your inane dribbling.
Carpe Jugulum
1 Nov 12 at 3:20 pm
Snap Gab.
The moocher is thicker than frozen lard. He’s stupider than Wodger if it can believed.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 3:22 pm
I love it – a pensioner complaining about markets by looking for a trader to shoot.
Well, one day his pension fund is really going to be hitting the skids, and he’ll ring up someone and cry to get out, any price, just stop the pain. On that day he’ll have a trader to thank for taking his badly-chosen investment junk off his hands. The day after he’ll start moaning about being ripped off again.
The perpetual loser will never run out of people to blame. One of lifes sureties.
If you didn’t like Telstra, old boy, nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to buy it.
brc
1 Nov 12 at 3:24 pm
That’s being a little unfair to the Wodger.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 3:24 pm
I didn’t realize that Gab starred in “King Solomons Mines” as the aged crone, the soothsayer Kagool “I do not recognize this Troll”. I told you that I am Alan, a Scottish pensioner temporarily banned once for being a bit stupid, with a dislike of “New Money”.
If you want to live in a world that only runs by the rules you stipulate, perhaps a spell on a Desert Island with a band of Bikies who also have different rules may straighten you up a bit.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 3:26 pm
4pm Sheedy-Folau press conference: Be careful if Sheedy’s involved. There is ferocious competition for AFL stories, which journalists have cocked up before.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 3:26 pm
“No touching: Girl, 12, gets detention for hugging classmate at WA school
Save this story to read later
Girl, 12, given detention for hugging a classmate
No-hugs rule introdced over “excessive hugging”
Mother says rule is “absolutely ridiculous”
NSW school bans handstands, cartwheels, somersaults”
Absolute morons.
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/no-touching-girl-12-gets-detention-for-hugging-classmate-at-wa-school/story-e6frfkp9-1226508427889#ixzz2AwShVKXA
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 3:30 pm
Sod that – alan should fight back, by either driving them mad with some of his incredibly bad poetry or clobbering them with his walking stick, whichever of the two strikes him as more efficacious.
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 3:30 pm
Charming. Really fucking charming, you disgusting mental pygmy.
look Hagus, you aren’t any good at this site. There’s no reason for you to be here.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 3:31 pm
>with a dislike of “New Money”.
read : anyone who did better in life than me, or who aspires to, or who knows someone who aspires to. Or anyone who has aspired to a new kitchen, really, the bourgeois fiends.
brc
1 Nov 12 at 3:32 pm
Has anyone seen bird in the same room as Alan?
kae
1 Nov 12 at 3:32 pm
Dick Morris explains the maths of why he’s confident Romney will win well and could win in a landslide:
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 3:34 pm
We really do get the completely stupid old farts trolling here now … there must have been a government funded computer class for OAPs recently.
Nanuestalker
1 Nov 12 at 3:34 pm
No way, KaE> Bird has style, finesse, intelligence, humour and he would never ever propose a female contributor here was deserving of pack rape by a bunch of bikies, as Alan just did.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 3:35 pm
I guess we’ll see on Tuesday, but I note that Romney has blown out to $3.65.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 3:37 pm
Seems like the panty wearing lefties in the UK have found the perfect way to destroy the multi-billion dollar sport they love.
Now the players have found they can put out someone in another team for half a season by falling over and crying racist, they are now esculating and accusing referees:
The game is in the bilge.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 3:38 pm
Does the post above mean the Les has returned?
Steve from Brisbane has been missing you dude, it seems he cries your name out in vain and hope every few days.
Token
1 Nov 12 at 3:39 pm
Didn’t you take my advice of some weeks ago to mortgage the house and put it all on Romney, IT?
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 3:42 pm
If what you are doing isn’t working or sending you backwards you have to change,or you wont be around to change.Golden rule of business…On that basis alone Mittens needs to win..
max49
1 Nov 12 at 3:43 pm
I like beer too, Steve, but I haven’t mortgaged the house and spent it all on Weihenstephaner.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 3:44 pm
Some analysis of why the markets have the election wrong:
http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/?p=2456
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 3:46 pm
Sorry Gab I never meant it that way. It was a general statement.
But brighten up, as Kagool said when her followers (Cats) were terrified by the Eclipse that the was brought on them by a group of leftie explorers “It will Pass, It Will pass”
What was Bird banned for if he was such a Gentleman?
alan
1 Nov 12 at 3:47 pm
Some good analysis here of why the amrkets are wrong:
http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 3:48 pm
Slate ends a post about Dick Morris’ wild predictions with this:
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 3:49 pm
FFS. I don’t know why I can’t link to him but if you google Bob Krumm, he has some excellent analysis of why Intrade and the markets have it wrong:
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 3:50 pm
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 3:51 pm
Queensland Nurses Union:
“The money should be spent on fixing the problem but the other thing is right now we’re fighting job and budget cuts across all of Queensland Health, so this is a distraction from our campaign,” [Beth Mohle] said
H B Bear
1 Nov 12 at 3:53 pm
Biden forgets where he is, again. Are people certain Biden isn’t a Rep. plant?
Heh. Cleveland, Florida.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 3:53 pm
IT, the betting markets are saying they know something the pollsters don’t as both national and swing state polls have Romney ahead or they’re reacting to the weight of money. I agree with JC’s theory that a Dumbocrat backer like Soros is manipulating the market to try to make an Obama win appear likely in order to make Mitt backers less likely to turn out. I’m waiting another day to see if I can get another point above $3.50; if it’s still $3.50 or better on Saturday, I’ll be doubling my bet for a nice little Spring carnival collect.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 3:56 pm
The truth is Steve that my wife is also registered on the mortgage which rather curtails my activities.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 4:03 pm
Gee you lot are touchy. Does a love of the right make you so thin skinned?
Kagool. Are you Gab the ex senator
alan
1 Nov 12 at 4:04 pm
As I’ve said here time and time again, ALWAYS check Steve’s links. It’s not a post by “Slate.”
It’s a post by David Weigel.
Who is David Weigel?
He was sacked by the Washington Post for being too left-wing a wacko.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 4:04 pm
Hey, Kae is famous!
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 4:09 pm
That’s like being kicked off a mardi gras float for being too gay.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 4:11 pm
Oh yeah? A post at a Slate blog by a regular contributor whose posts appears in the normal list of Slate articles is not a “post at Slate”?
You’re sort of stupidly desperate to think you can score points, aren’t you , CL…
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 4:12 pm
Hmm. The stench from Alan is not quite as rancid as Stalinist Les the Jew-baiting white supremacist racist kiddie. Nor is it our other Stalinist dusky-person hater THR.
But the stink of this window-licking mouth-breather is rather familiar…..
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 4:13 pm
Everytime I think you couldn’t get more brain-damaged, you hit the warp drive into the dumbosphere, Dogshit. My god you’re stupid.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 4:16 pm
Hmm.
I think it might just be that yellow-gutted snivelling poltroon hammyracist
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 4:17 pm
Steve:
Actual author: left-wing wacko and JournoLister David Weigel.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 4:23 pm
Gab, I think it is great how the MSM is working hard to endure complacency does not set in.
Each morning Republican voters will check the blogs for real news and compare to the skewed news from the usual suspects in the MSM with disdain and be detirmined to do something to fix their country.
Has there ever been a greater get out the vote campaign for the centre and centre-right voters?
Token
1 Nov 12 at 4:31 pm
“Stalinist Les the Jew-baiting white supremacist racist kiddie”
He sounds horrible. Why would you tolerate such a person at a family friendly blog such as this?
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 4:37 pm
Gee, if that’s Les (and it does have the right tone of sarcasm) I thought you would be more discrete about it…
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 4:39 pm
Good luck with that. HMAS Adelaide was scuttled on 13 April 2011 off Avoca on the Central Coast of NSW, and is now reported to be an excellent artificial reef. Scuba divers who frequent the site might be somewhat surprised to see her sail off to anywhere, let alone Williamstown or Hawaii.
Aloha anyway, and hang loose
Septimus
1 Nov 12 at 4:40 pm
So which one of the menagerie is the latest one (the one after Alan)? Jacques, can you whip up an IP address filter for Snic?
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 4:44 pm
If someone describes themselves as left-leaning, you can be sure they are a full-blown communist who thinks Stalin bottled it when he had a good thing going.
All the normal lefties try and pretend their views are mainstream.
brc
1 Nov 12 at 4:45 pm
Good to have LT back. I didn’t think he could stand to be away with November 6th looming.
He’s a mad Melbourne Cup fan.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 4:46 pm
Yes, I couldn’t bear to be away from the Cat when my nag – he’s a dark horse with uncertain antecedents and connections – crosses the line first.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 4:51 pm
With Oz Lotto offering $100m jackpot next week, you could cover every possibility for around 55 million dollars and still come out ahead…
Of course, you could still lose out if you end up sharing it – but if you’d done it this week, you’d have taken the then $70m jackpot for yourself, as there were no winners.
sfb should totally mortgage his wife’s house and have a tilt at it.
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 4:52 pm
It’s annoying that Abbott gets slandered a misogynist in the House when gillard’s behaviour in the House is just downright bitchy.
———————
If that’s Tilman, which I don’t think it is, then he has forgotten how to spell his own moniker. BTW, Tilman was here earlier this week under a different moniker.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 4:53 pm
No you are lying.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 4:55 pm
When did Tillman become a Lord? Where’s my title?
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 4:55 pm
Gab,
the only way to stop that idiocy is for parents to organise a mass hug-athon.
Who will they put into detention then?
duncan
1 Nov 12 at 4:56 pm
Tillman’s always been with two LLs, Gab.
No you are lying.
Confirmation.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 4:57 pm
Oh, ok, it is Tillman.
Duncan – it is just absurd how teachers sexualise innocent behaviour by kids. Affection that is in their nature is now punishable.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 4:58 pm
Lord Tilman would know what I mean by “New Money”.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 4:59 pm
Typical
LaborDemocrats, they always try to rip you off.Gab
1 Nov 12 at 5:02 pm
Maybe he didn’t give them the whole load?
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 5:06 pm
I take it that Alan is the sock puppet of Tillman?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
1 Nov 12 at 5:07 pm
At least Thommo had the decency to pay his hookers… not with his own money, of course, but nobody’s perfect.
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 5:07 pm
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/01/women-sen-bob-menendez-paid-us-for-sex-in-the-dominican-republic/#ixzz2Awt5Ayoz
Has to be true. Only a Demolitionist would do that.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 5:11 pm
With Tillers back we don’t need Alan anymore.
Sinclair Davidson
1 Nov 12 at 5:14 pm
Sorry but I can’t claim credit for “Alan”. A check of IP addresses would, I assume, clarify that.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 5:16 pm
Can you ban Alan now, but replace him with Tillman well after the election please. Well after. If the Kenyan wins Tillman will be insufferable. And being a delicate time for the crew here he would be doubly insufferable.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 5:17 pm
Not so fast, Septimus.
I think you will find that the latest HMAS Adelaide was launched in July 2012, in Spain. Admittedly she will not be in Australia for several months yet, but she lives…..above the waves.
James in Melbourne
1 Nov 12 at 5:20 pm
Fair dinkum, how can you praise a woman’s talents and then short change her by 80% of the agreed sum. The Douchebag has been running ads here with him sitting in classrooms for the past 2 weeks I know of. He ads here in NY because it’s one big market.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 5:21 pm
Alternatively, can you ban SFB until 2014, keep Tilman now?
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 5:22 pm
No. If the Kenyan wins I want to have my nose rubbed in it.
I’ll remember it the next time there’s a canned food drive for the homeless.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 5:23 pm
Fair trade Gab, but well after the election or a Romney win of course.
So the earliest Tillman gets back on here is Wednesday morning our time around noon.
JC
1 Nov 12 at 5:24 pm
I missed you too, Gab.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 5:24 pm
I suspect so.
Sinclair Davidson
1 Nov 12 at 5:28 pm
You certainly took your time, Lord. I’ve had to rely on all sorts of temporary support, such as from the Rococo yesterday. It felt quite odd.
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 5:31 pm
No where were we?
Fractional reserve, Campion, Haditha, Keelhaul, Marine, WTC…
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 5:33 pm
Why are you guys so nervous? I thought the soulless autistic c___ had this in the bag.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 5:39 pm
One can never underestimate Democrat ballot stuffing and the idiocy of the masses.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 5:44 pm
Why would you need to pay $500 to a lady of the night in Dominica?
Probably $100 is full freight and top shelf.
Anyway it sounds like the pimp skimmed the difference. Coyly reported as ‘an intermediary’.
DaveF
1 Nov 12 at 5:47 pm
Actually the story is full of magnificent quotes:
Darling you are in the wrong business if that troubles you….
DaveF
1 Nov 12 at 5:49 pm
Someone on Twitter:
“So he taxed them at 80%. What’s the big deal?!”
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 5:52 pm
Shift is over. Up to you now Tillers.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 5:54 pm
Yeah, any suspicions I had that Tillman and Les weren’t the same guy are now expunged.
Alex Pundit
1 Nov 12 at 5:56 pm
LOL. That is pretty funny.
Aside from the prostitutes declaring, “Yep. That’s him,” the story does seem light on evidence.
Fleeced
1 Nov 12 at 5:58 pm
Kind of makes you lose faith in the whole romance of whoring.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 5:59 pm
I bet Tillman is impressed that CL has become a regular linker to Gateway Pundit – probably the most risible of wingnut bloggers in a big field.
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 6:00 pm
No Steve the only way CL could impress me is if he apologised for calling Churchill a war criminal and for calling US Marines “soldiers”.
Gateway Pundit I am unfamiliar with. I doubt I am missing much.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 6:01 pm
Don’t you get nervous when someone with that serial killer vibe enters the room?
Alex Pundit
1 Nov 12 at 6:03 pm
Romney is a serial killer? How so? Do Mormons have to kill a Christian baby as a rite of passage or something?
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 6:05 pm
Tillers:
hey, those were his good points.
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 6:05 pm
Not nearly as impressed as you linking to LGF, you cretinous hausfrau.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 6:05 pm
You know what I am looking forward to?
Seeing the look on Romney’s face in 2016 when he has to give his pro forma endorsement of GOP nominee Chris Christie. Hahahahah. I’m chuckling already.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 6:09 pm
Well, blow me down.
My humble apologies, James. Enjoy the cruise (and maybe a chopper flight) when the new HMAS Adelaide arrives.
Septimus
1 Nov 12 at 6:10 pm
Chris Christie will not live until 2016. He should have deployed himself to stop the flooding.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 6:10 pm
The real surprise for wingnuts is how it turned out that Obama’s secret gay lover was Christie.
steve from brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 6:15 pm
How many of the cans of food that Romney collected are going to end up in the pantry at the NJ Gov’s mansion?
Someone should do an investigation.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 6:16 pm
And why was ROmney collecting cans of food anyway? Does he really think the problem in NJ and NY is a shortage of Campbell’s Chunky Soup?
What a moron. A pandering, snivelling, moron.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 6:19 pm
More bad news for warmies from Jo Nova.
A bit technical, but wtf if you have insomnia in Arlington.
Poor Old Rafe
1 Nov 12 at 6:47 pm
Romney is a serial killer? How so? Do Mormons have to kill a Christian baby as a rite of passage or something?
No but it was only in 1978 that that “Church” allowed blacks to become priests. Originally they held that blacks had the “mark of cain”. Nice to know that the the possible Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belongs to am organisation that in his youth regarded blacks as sub-human.
Yes, I couldn’t bear to be away from the Cat when my nag – he’s a dark horse with uncertain antecedents and connections – crosses the line first.
What, there’s two lefties here now! Damn it Tillman, these people are my play things, go find your own playground.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 6:53 pm
Me thinks the socialist scourge that has beset the world and Australia in particular for the last 30 odd years may be beginning to die…Goodbye to corrosive shit..
max49
1 Nov 12 at 7:00 pm
Me thinks the socialist scourge that has beset the world and Australia in particular for the last 30 odd years may be beginning to die…Goodbye to corrosive shit..
Bollocks, we corroded your brains so much all you can do rant like dementia patients who won’t take their antipsychotics.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 7:04 pm
After the commie slapper people are not so toerant of left loopies which is a good time push them into the cess pit where they belong…
max49
1 Nov 12 at 7:10 pm
DS:
Dude, that’s the current Preshizzle’s (Paco™) mob. Y’know, the ones with a senator who as a KKK grand kleagle (or something like that), the ones who opposed the US civil rights movement, formed the KKK in the first place, resolutely endorsed slavery, replaced it with a new and updated form of slavery in welfare dependency, all that stuff.
The Mormons, while a strange little cult, do at least produce good citizens unlike socialists who produce parasites and wastrels.
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 7:14 pm
What did I do wrong?
alan
1 Nov 12 at 7:17 pm
max, that’s back in the cesspit where they originated.
What sort of socialist is DS? Maoist? Leninist? Stalinist? Hitlerite? Old-fashioned Marxian socialist?
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 7:17 pm
Thanks for the link Rafe. By coincidence I was pondering the Earth’s energy balance today.
Keith
1 Nov 12 at 7:22 pm
Dosnt matter which type MK all of them are disgruntled failures with a hatred for their inability which they project onto society as a whole…
max49
1 Nov 12 at 7:24 pm
Al Gore snr. was a leading proponent against civil rights, voted against the Civil Rights Act 1964 and was a member of the KKK.
Nice to know that the father of an actual Vice Pres of the most powerful nation in the world belonged to an organisation that regarded blacks as sub-human.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 7:25 pm
Dead Soul is not a socialist. He’s not even a leftist, really.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 7:26 pm
DS, you’re making an inference that probably isn’t there. From having the “mark of Cain” to “sub-human”. I have to say, though, I know almost nothing about Mormonism.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 7:26 pm
What the hell is he then.. Bangkok lady boy?
max49
1 Nov 12 at 7:27 pm
All I know about Mormonism I learned from South Park.
They all seem like hard working, fecund people.
Infidel Tiger
1 Nov 12 at 7:28 pm
This is a bit unfair.
It’s only in the past 50 years that blacks have enjoyed full civil rights in the US as well as Australia and South Africa.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 7:30 pm
In other words, yes it was racist of them to not allow blacks but there’s no use finger pointing at reformed organisations because before they reformed, they were un-reformed.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 7:31 pm
How old are you, thirteen?
dd
1 Nov 12 at 7:32 pm
Hey Mk50!
Have a look at this thread on Australian Hunting Net
There are potentially a couple of P14s for sale.
I may be able to check out the SA one if you want.
Kae has my email.
Eddystone
1 Nov 12 at 7:35 pm
Quite a sensible comment.
What a moronic comment. Starts off with an infantile “dude” and gets worse from there.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 8:00 pm
the ones who opposed the US civil rights movement
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 8:02 pm
I’m all confused, sometimes I’m banned and sometimes I’m not.
alan
1 Nov 12 at 8:08 pm
“Asian century” my arse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/world/asia/wary-of-future-many-professionals-leave-china.html?hp&pagewanted=all&_r=0
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 8:12 pm
Asian century
A recent poll conducted in 13 Asian countries revealed they don’t believe Wayne Swan will deliver a surplus this century.
News at eleven
Spatacrobat
1 Nov 12 at 8:26 pm
This is a bit unfair.
It’s only in the past 50 years that blacks have enjoyed full civil rights in the US as well as Australia and South Africa.
As unfair as people here who argue the Democrats were promoting racism long before that date? Did you ever challenge that?
DS, you’re making an inference that probably isn’t there. From having the “mark of Cain” to “sub-human”. I have to say, though, I know almost nothing about Mormonism.
They are not philosophers DB, if Mormons assert that Africans have the mark of cain I think the inferences drawn by members of the church would be fairly obvious.
BTW, I was just having some fun, on a rush to see what next stupidity emerged from Gillard and Co. And watching an interesting doco on submariners in WW2. I do think Romney is a good man.
I’m someone fed up with the modern politics. I hate the whole tribe. I AM Misanthopius.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 8:31 pm
Leave
BritneyPeeTiddy alone, APPL dropped $100 in the last month & a half.Nanuestalker
1 Nov 12 at 8:31 pm
Watching The Nation on Sky News. Peter Debnam is on. I know some of my fellow Cat fans think Fatty O’Barrell is a big disappointment, but bugger me, NSW dodged a bullet by not electing Debnam. Makes Teddy Baillieu look strong and decisive. What a damp squib.
Skuter
1 Nov 12 at 8:39 pm
Hoft is often pre-DRUDGE with videos – that’s why I link to him. He’s a good blogger. That’s in contrast to Steve. I once visited Steve’s blog and noticed that the commens counter was on 2. Clicking through, I discovered the two comments were both spam robots. It was the most important discussion ever seen at the blog.
Wingnut Steve also recently expressed the desire for thousands of dead people in New York so that JC would be wrong about something. He now regularly links to Charles Johnson – who was the inspiration for Anders Breivek – and sacked JournoList wacko David Weigel.
But apart from ALL of that, I wonder if Steve the ‘married’ man has any idea how homosexual he sounds when kneepadding Lord “OMG! The WTC Was Uninsured” Tillman. More so than Reggie Love.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 8:47 pm
They are not philosophers DB, if Mormons assert that Africans have the mark of cain I think the inferences drawn by members of the church would be fairly obvious.
You’re right, they’re not, DS, but neither are they scientists. The inference you’re drawing from “mark of Cain” to “sub-human” is not an inference they themselves would have drawn. The “mark of Cain” implied “being accursed”; not that they were thus sub-human, but rather all-too-human. But my little trip to Wiki shows that Smith himself ordained two black men to the priesthood and that this ban was something that occurred under Brigham Young. Even so, this never led to the segregation of congregations which seems quite important.
BTW, I was just having some fun,
Yes, but these sort of allegations shouldn’t be made lightly.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 8:48 pm
Emily’s lister’s gang up on Abbott to silence his tongue.
Spatacrobat
1 Nov 12 at 8:53 pm
That’s in contrast to Steve. I once visited Steve’s blog and noticed that the commens counter was on 2. Clicking through, I discovered the two comments were both spam robots. It was the most important discussion ever seen at the blog.
Even spam robots try and avoid sfb’s blog, by the looks.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 8:53 pm
Shades of Newspoll which also apparently fiddles about with weightings.
Viva
1 Nov 12 at 8:53 pm
That’s funny!
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 8:56 pm
Shorter alan: “Is this thing on?”
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 8:57 pm
Before we digress to whether I have double standards, let’s stay on the topic for a moment. Either it’s unfair or it’s not.
Probably it’s fair in the sense that you might wonder if there are still racist attitudes within the church. But even then it’s a stretch to then impute racist attitudes on Romney specifically.
No, but I don’t know enough about American history to argue it one way or the other and besides, I stay clear of “call-each-other-racist” competitions.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 9:01 pm
Swanny to lecture the yanks about the economy. God I hope Romney wins and tells the retard to fuck off and never come back. No. I hope Romney refuses wins, refuses to meet him and some lowly official in the administration tells him to fuck off. Clearly his ego is out of control.
Tiny Dancer
1 Nov 12 at 9:13 pm
LMAO!
Nanuestalker
1 Nov 12 at 9:15 pm
The 99th Vic Cross presented to Royal Australian Regiment corporal Daniel Keighran, and from all reports, well deserved.
That said, the 100th will be presented by Julia Gillard to a woman or Sachin Tendulkar about 4 weeks before the next election.
Who could put a stunt like that beyond her.
jumpnmcar
1 Nov 12 at 9:26 pm
alan, your comment wasn’t there earlier but now it is, so it seems that you’re in moderation. (ie Sinc wanted to read your comment before approving it).
dd
1 Nov 12 at 9:31 pm
Probably it’s fair in the sense that you might wonder if there are still racist attitudes within the church.
The inference you’re drawing from “mark of Cain” to “sub-human” is not an inference they themselves would have drawn.
That they are not scientists is exactly my point. When people are cast as racist or stupid or whatever other label it becomes a short cognitive hop, skip and jump to start making other unwarranted inferences. People do that by nature, it is one of our cognitive flaws. Philosophers, scientists and other professionals, because of their training, are less inclined to make such cognitive errors.
Disspelling the Curse of Cain
Indeed, it was apparent to many of us even four decades
ago that certain scriptural passages used to explain the denial
of priesthood to black members could not legitimately be so
interpreted without an a priori narrative.
3
Q: But aren’t black people unwelcome in the Mormon Church,
or subjected to some kind of second-class status?
A. Not for the past twenty-five years. It is true that from the
middle of the nineteenth century until 1978, the relatively few
black people who joined the Church could not be given the
priesthood or access to temple rites.
Q: Why was that?
A. The reasons are not entirely clear, but the policy seems to
have begun officially in 1852 with an announcement by
Brigham Young, who was Church president at that time. He
made the announcement as part of deliberations by the Utah
Q: Didn’t anyone question Young’s views during all that time or
later?
A: All of Brigham Young’s successors tended to assume that
he had had a good reason for withholding the priesthood from
black members and had probably gotten the policy from
Joseph Smith. A few black members questioned the policy a
time or two, but when they did so, Church leaders reconsidered and simply reiterated it. By the time the twentieth century
arrived, no church leaders were living who could remember
when the policy had been otherwise.
15
Meanwhile, the nation
as a whole had become permeated with so-called Jim Crow
laws restricting all kinds of privileges for blacks. In that environment, the Mormon restriction on priesthood seemed entirely natural.
I stay clear of “call-each-other-racist” competitions.
Except in this instance.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 9:41 pm
Israel Folau returns to a game where his lack of speed, spatial awareness, hand-eye co-ordination and aerobic fitness are not an issue.
H B Bear
1 Nov 12 at 9:42 pm
Steve, Morris is correct and Weigel’s wrong, and moreover, it will be only a few days before we can dissect the whole thing. I’m pretty sure this is going to be a landslide for Romney. But Tuesday could make a fool of me.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 9:52 pm
I’ll leave you to draw conclusions about why that is. The snarky comeback on the tip of your tongue is not the reason.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 9:54 pm
Geez, if those speedy,spatially aware, co-ordinated ,fit AFL chaps were to cross over to NRL they would absolutely decimate their opponents!! Earn the biggest money and actually represent their country.
Wonder why none have?
jumpnmcar
1 Nov 12 at 9:57 pm
Shorter DD: “My prediction will be right, unless it’s wrong.”
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 9:57 pm
I’ll leave you to draw conclusions about why that is. The snarky comeback on the tip of your tongue is not the reason.
Same reason as me? Once we start throwing all these generalised labels at groups of people we are paving the way for a destructive instantiation of the Halo Effect. People entertain the illusion that their thinking is independent of their verbal behavior, that the causation only works from thinking to talk, that the people we associate with does not influence our “rationality”. I wish. No Spocks.
Sorry about that DD, around here you are an excellent demonstration of how verbal behavior should be exercised.
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 10:03 pm
That’s an interesting point.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 10:08 pm
Loving your shortarse analyses this evening, Rabz. I also think Romney will win decisively, but I’m not game to say it out loud just yet as shit can still happen. I’m planning to put a considerably larger sum of my money where my mouth is on Saturday.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 10:11 pm
Has this show aired In Australia ?
The Revisionaries
jumpnmcar
1 Nov 12 at 10:15 pm
Who is dressing Bill Shorten’s Mother-in-Law nowadays? Barry Humphries?
H B Bear
1 Nov 12 at 10:16 pm
Tom,
I’m still thinking seriously of putting $500 on Mittens tomorrow and I never gamble.
So yes, here’s hoping we’re right – or we’ll be wrong…
Rabz
1 Nov 12 at 10:21 pm
Just got back from out west, Eddystone, and sent an email reply to you.
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 10:37 pm
Maybe they want to handle and kick the football skilfully, jumpnmcar. You people rave and swoon over Thurston and Lockyer. Every AFL player has to do everything they do and more; all game every game; or they don’t get to play it.
But hey, love that biting and anal digital penetration thing you’ve got going there.
James in Melbourne
1 Nov 12 at 10:43 pm
That they are not scientists is exactly my point.
And as such they never implied by ‘mark of Cain’ that blacks were ‘sub-human’ which is illustrated by no segregation within congregations. ‘Sub-human’ is a category that really only emerges within ‘scientific’ racism.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 10:45 pm
I’m still thinking seriously of putting $500 on Mittens tomorrow and I never gamble.
Same here, Rabz, but not being a gambler I’m finding it very hard even though I’m relatively confident.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 10:46 pm
DB, reread JC’s thesis from this thread at 1.05pm yesterday. Very close to the mark, IMO.
Tom
1 Nov 12 at 10:58 pm
Hey, fuck you, Dead Soul the Moral Supremicist.
Mitt Romney’s white Mormon father did more to advance the black civil rights cause in America than Barack Hussein Obama’s white chuckleheaded wannabe-Marxist mother did. I can show you photos of Romney marching arm in arm with black civil rights activists. Besides fucking a Kenyan (and then abandoning the spawn to be raised by her white parents in whiter-than-white Hawaii) what did “Barry” Obama’s whitebread baby-mama do?
Stick to your long-winded pop-sci posts solemnly pronouncing Wednesday that substances X and Y will give us cancer, then on Friday solemnly pronouncing that substances X and Y will fucking *cure* cancer, and leave the cheap race-baiting to the experts.
sdog
1 Nov 12 at 11:10 pm
Told you DB: Halo Effect. Happens all the time. inferior race is for most people an invitation to treat people as less than human. How do you think slavery was justified?
LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie furthers this teaching:
Those who were less valiant in pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions impose on them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God, and his murder of Able being a black skin. . . . Noah’s son married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood. . . . the negro are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concern. . . . ” (Mormon Doctrine, 527-28; 1966 orig. ed., changed in the current ed.; emphasis added).
Joseph Smith first president, prophet, and founder of the Mormon Church:
Had I anything to do with the negro, I would confine them by strict law to their own species, and put them on a national equalization” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 270; History of the Church, 5: 218; emphasis added).
Brigham Young second President and Prophet:
Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be (ibid., 10:110; emphasis added)
Smith also taught that “Negroes” were inferior to other races:
Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race.
—–
I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change it?” (ibid.; emphasis added)
Dead Soul
1 Nov 12 at 11:14 pm
In some ways, I think of the US election in NRL terms.
Romney has won the minor premiership (representing the national mood and the national popular will), no doubt.
Ryan has been a triumph as a Veep pic. Best choice for 2IC since 1979/80.
Benghazi Barry and Loads Biden have been laughable.
But what of the Grand Final: election day – or, more specifically, the electoral college and the swing states?
On that, the intell is hopelessly obtuse owing to spin, methodologies, willed media vagueness etc. I think there’s a Mittmentum that might win it for RoRy but I won’t be truly shocked at a narrow win by the dog eater.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 11:20 pm
Typical Mormon racist who obviously believes that blacks are “sub-human”.
Also, this week, aspirin either causes or cures cancer.
sdog
1 Nov 12 at 11:21 pm
heh.
Skyping a mate, and he’s worth quoting:
“I do not really hate Julia Gillard, although I have been fantasising about her flogged and chained like a dog to a post, naked in the blazing sun of a field covered in shattered flints, being attacked by honey badgers zorked on crystal meth while Justin Bieber songs are played at 110 decibels.”
I hate drinking coffee when people say stuff like that: it’s hard stuff to breathe.
Mk50 of Brisbane
1 Nov 12 at 11:21 pm
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 11:23 pm
The aerial ping-pongers would be creamed?
kae
1 Nov 12 at 11:24 pm
Huh?
You’re describing the Democrat Party.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 11:25 pm
You want “quotes”, you fucking low-rent race-baiter? I’ll give you “quotes”.
sdog
1 Nov 12 at 11:25 pm
DS, it’s strange that Smith would say that and yet ordain black men to the priesthood, among them Elijah Abel.
dover_beach
1 Nov 12 at 11:28 pm
DS there’s no evidence that Romney’s racist. What you’ve got so far doesn’t count. Please come back and try again with something better.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 11:32 pm
You amuse easily.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 11:34 pm
Gab, what’s your source? If reputable, surely that’s case closed.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 11:34 pm
Apologies. Here’s the link.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 11:36 pm
In the week that saw the Gillard-linked former national president of the ALP given more charges than a Brazilian biscuit thief, Wayne Swan beclowned over the “surplus,” continued fallout from the world’s first tax that raised no money and Gillard destroyed in Parliament over her Slater & Gordon slush fund, Michelle Grattan concludes…
Headaches for Abbott as tactics falter.
C.L.
1 Nov 12 at 11:37 pm
Oh Mrs Magoo you’ve done it again.
H B Bear
1 Nov 12 at 11:42 pm
Meanwhile, last week coffee caused cancer. This week, coffee prevents cancer.
sdog
1 Nov 12 at 11:42 pm
Correct. Romney is so deeply autistic that he is literally incapable of determining race.
Lord Tillman
1 Nov 12 at 11:54 pm
Well, well, well.
Looky here at the trusty stenographer:
As I said last night – that whole ALP wheat “deregulation” thing? Pure realpolitik. This weeks cooked up attack as evidenced here by slobbering sycophant Gratten running the ALP line word for word. You watch – in a few weeks or a month amendments will silently be made to the bill once the media have moved on – this ALP don’t do free market.
It bothers me greatly that the ALP are pushing policy as important as this purely and only as means of damaging Tony Abbott though.
Then again I suppose there’s 1000 dead bodies floating off the coast of WA for the same reason so this is small potatoes.
twostix
1 Nov 12 at 11:56 pm
Okay then. Please provide evidence that he’s autistic.
dd
1 Nov 12 at 11:57 pm
If only all the Earthians could do the same.
Gab
1 Nov 12 at 11:57 pm
Can somebody explain to me the purpose of this?
Is fairfax so desperate for content that they’re elevating their dime a dozen article comments to articles? Because that little spiel reads just like a whining (usually made up) faux-righteous-indignation-overcame-the-odds-give-me-praise blog comment one reads on leftist blogs a dozen times day.
Here’s a hint Spicer: everybody thinks Newsreaders are airheaded bimbos – male and female. You’re.not.special.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 12:09 am
From Cut&Paste:
Who was to blame for Penny Wong’s Senate spot? ABC1′s Q&A, Monday:
BRIAN Adamson: Penny Wong has recently been relegated to second spot on the Senate ballot in South Australia …
Kate Lundy: Well, I think the situation we’re facing at the moment, we’ve got a Government with, I think, a very strong leader but faced with just relentless negativity …
Tony Jones: So you’re feeling OK, are you, about Penny Wong being dropped to No 2 in the South Australian Senate ticket?
Lundy: No. … Part of the problem is that we do have an Opposition that is just so persistently negative.
Blame it on he who is always to blame. Tanya Plibersek, ABC1′s Lateline, October 9:
EMMA Alberici: Now that Peter Slipper has resigned do you think it was wrong for the PM to defend him so vociferously in the house today?
Plibersek: Well … I think it raises the question about the role that Tony Abbott’s playing.
[They really are a right pair of mussels].
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 12:10 am
Twostix: Over-40 blonde newsreader Tracey Spicer joins in the bashing, calls carbon tax protesters “dinosaurs”.
Pots & kettles, ay?
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 12:16 am
Oh, Tracey. You aged-out blonde dinosaur you.
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 12:18 am
Correct. Romney is so deeply autistic that he is literally incapable of determining race.
I never said he was racist, I stated he was a good man and I sincerely believe that. I can’t recall saying a bad word about Romney or Obama as persons but I probably did at some point. My issue is that when any organisation’s representatives keep throwing out statements like I sourced the behavioral consequences of that are bad, very bad.
Romney is not autistic. People have to stop playing Dr. Freud.
I know its strange DB but we do entertain contradictory ideas. We all do and it can take a lot of work to uncover that. Damn, I’m trying to reread “The Limits of Analysis”(Stanley Rosen) and he does a good job of showing how very brilliant people still end up with contradictions in their most carefully constructed arguments.
I don’t doubt that modern Mormons are decent people. Even in that South Park episode where they sent up Mormon beliefs they painted Mormon people in a very positive light. Why? Because Parker and Stone in an interview stated that they have known Mormons and found them to be very good people. I don’t really care about peoples’ beliefs that much but I care very much about their behavior. There’s another contradiction, I’m separating thought from behavior.
DD:
Regarding behavior. I am supposed to be digging up treatment options for people with anxiety or depression. Strange things emerge: one study suggested for anxiety: “Walk Tall”. For depression: smile broadly. An emerging theme in behavior studies is that of “embodied cognition”. A friend of mine stated that generally speaking overt behavior is better than covert behavior. ie. Don’t ruminate, do something! A few of my friends have been scathing of cognitive behavioral therapy because it is too much predicated on the idea that we change overt behavior by changing covert(thinking) behavior. That can help but it is not enough. These days I’m inclined to the view that there is no one optimal treatment, the therapist can try drugs, CBT, or whatever works and good therapists over time develop an intuition for that.
Dead Soul
2 Nov 12 at 12:20 am
Tell them to drink coffee. Or not to drink coffee. Or to take aspirin. Or not to take aspirin. Or to take vitamins. Or not to take vitamins. Whatever the pop-sci of the day deems “correct”.
But leave the race-baiting to the experts. SRSLY. It demeans you; it demeans this blog.
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 12:23 am
Lundy is another Foundation member of Emily’s List.
Surely Emily’s List will go down in history as the most useless group of politicians in the history of Australia.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 12:35 am
Total Commonwealth Government Securities
on Issue – $255,936m, consisting of:
Treasury Bonds – $223,448m
Treasury Indexed Bonds – $16,969m
Treasury Notes – $15,500m
Other Securities – $19m
As at 26 October 2012, Updated weekly
Face value amounts rounded to the nearest million
Securities on issue subject to the limit under the Commonwealth Inscribed Stock Act 1911 total $251,349 million.
This is getting depressing.
Winston Smith
2 Nov 12 at 12:41 am
Plibersek’s political legacy will be one of her vacuuous airhead quotes along the lines of Seinfeld’s “… not that there is anything wrong with that.”
Thanks Emilys List. Backed another winner there.
H B Bear
2 Nov 12 at 12:42 am
As antidote to Michelle’s Grattan’s epically ludicrous latest, Dennis Shanahan’s column on Abbott today is one of his best for a while. Excellent analysis.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 1:21 am
But leave the race-baiting to the experts. SRSLY. It demeans you; it demeans this blog.
You didn’t read what I wrote?
Tell them to drink coffee. Or not to drink coffee. Or to take aspirin. Or not to take aspirin. Or to take vitamins. Or not to take vitamins. Whatever the pop-sci of the day deems “correct”.
In case you haven’t noticed there has been huge progress in the treatment of anxiety and depression. Seriously, leave the thinking about such matters to people who actually know something about it.
Dead Soul
2 Nov 12 at 1:35 am
Roger Pielke, WSJ: Hurricanes and Human Choice
Sandy was terrible, but we’re currently in a relative hurricane ‘drought.’ Connecting energy policy and disasters makes little scientific sense.
JamesK
2 Nov 12 at 2:39 am
LOL. How small of you in the week a genuine Australian hero is commended for his bravery.
Why don’t you develop a points system for bravery? People can be racked up for kills and saves, and awarded bonus points for style, such as dual gun wielding, firing while smoking a durrie or with a King Brown in one hand, and for using whitty quips.
Abu Chowdah
2 Nov 12 at 2:49 am
Of course. Which is why so very few viiiiictims are afflicted – nay, totally and permanently ‘incapacitated’ and ‘disabled’ – by it today as compared to in the past. Ever since the introduction of SSRIs, the number of people suffering depression and anxiety has plummeted. PLUMMETED, baby!
Which “cure” is it today – antidepressants, vitamins, beta-blockers, MDMA or aromatherapy? But tomorrow we’ll learn they all cause cancer, or dementia, or obesity, or somesuch anyway. And the “epidemic” of adult citizens requiring total support from the taxpayer for such “afflictions” will keep going up and up and up, and the amount of money taxpayers are required to fork out to “win the war” on “disabling anxiety and depression” will keep going up and up and up, and next year there’ll be even more of these poor afflicted beings, and even more taxpayer money required to support them, and even more taxpayer money required to fund researchers to figure out yet another new “cure” which will be heralded as a big win until it too is debunked… Rinse and repeat.
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney is a racist racist who’s racist. Because, MORMON!!11!!
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 2:55 am
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney is a racist racist who’s racist. Because, MORMON!!11!!
Your words, not mine.
The drug emphasis on treating depression – lay that at the feet of the medical profession with particular emphasis on the USA, which breaks all records on relying on drugs to treat conditions that can be approached through a number of cheaper avenues. There are some who argue that the use of SSRIs without psychotherapy increases the risk of relapse. If you have a problem with the treatment then blame Big Pharma and the medical community. I trusted you noted I cited two studies that proposed solutions which don’t cost a friggin cent.
The efficacy of antidepressants is over hyped by doctors and Big Pharma. That’s the free market for you: make up a condition then create a product to sell at ridiculous prices. The DSM V is being attacked for doing it all again. The drugs do help but the refusal to explore other therapeutic options is the fault of doctors and Big Pharma. Take up your concerns with them. GSK just got hit with a 3 billion dollar bill for hiding data, promoting off label use, and rigging trials. This is market failure on a grand scale. It illustrates why I think free market spirituality is a faith that can sometimes lead us into deep shit. But of course there are those who think the free market nevers fail.
Go on, have another whinge. Some people are trying to find ways to find better treatments that don’t involve expensive drugs that in trials sometimes barely get above the placebo response.
Dead Soul
2 Nov 12 at 3:22 am
Did you actually read what I wrote, Abu? I said in the first instance that he and the others deserve high commendation – that is, decorations. Which you alter to some kind of weird jingoistic crapola about me not lionising the Genuine Australian Hero.
I have read the VC citations of history and I have read, say, Mark Donaldson’s. The bar has been lowered somewhat. Donaldson would have been unlikely to have been mentioned in dispatches at Lone Pyne. That’s not to question the heroism of what he did.
Um, there already is one, in essence. That’s why the VC is atop a series of lesser but also prestigious decorations. It’s why you don’t get a VC for helping to build a school in Afghanistan – though it takes some bravery to be there at all. Stay tuned, though. A VC for a female ‘Digger’ who helped distribute birth control literature in the provinces is only a matter of time. Yesterday you were getting all misty about a couple of bozos in hush puppies strolling the carpet at Arlington, ffs. Get a grip.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 3:41 am
“Tolerance!”
Gay Left-Wing Radio Host Advises Gay Romney Supporter to Commit Suicide, Says He Should Not Be Allowed to Vote
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 3:53 am
A discussion for another time, not in the week he us being thanked for his gallantry.
A bit of couth and common.
Abu Chowdah
2 Nov 12 at 4:17 am
Hey,Dog, really enjoyed your work through our night, particularly in relation to the race-baiting moral supremacist Dead Shit. How is JAX, m’man? Great town because of what it’s near.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 6:14 am
Now you can understand why Aborigines in the NT felt so strongly there was no future in the ALP welfare/sitdown money they were prepared to vote for conservatives for the first time – and change the government:
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 6:54 am
I’m really liking North Florida, Tom. Very friendly laid-back vibe in the coastal communities south of Jax, and close to some great amenities. I may have half-jokingly told someone at the rally last night that if Obama loses I’m moving my main residency back to the States, to counter all the thousands who have promised to leave if Romney wins. LOL.
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 7:31 am
Just as Turnbull leading the Libs is a leftwing fantasy, an early election is a conservative idea that most likely won’t be realised. What is not in dispute is that Abbott has to change:
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 7:45 am
Ace
Rudiau
2 Nov 12 at 7:55 am
*Snigger* I see on Sunrise (and the Herald Sun) that two of Abbott’s daughters have been wheeled out for a bit of “he’s not misogynist, honest” PR.
I don’t think this “I’ll stay quiet while I send out the women to defend me or do my job” tactic is actually such a good look. It gives the impression that he does have something to defend. Which he does, anyway, in my assessment; but still, if he thought he didn’t, then he should not be pulling back or sending the troops in ahead of him.
steve from brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 8:07 am
Broke my ankle once, walked it off.
Anyway what the digger did was exceptionally brave. Being compared to Albert Jacka is like being compared to a drugged up version of Achilles.
.
2 Nov 12 at 8:07 am
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New Dem ad
Leftism, the religion of peace and tolerance.
Rudiau
2 Nov 12 at 8:17 am
Steve
Women work for Abbot and say he’s a great boss. Gillard’s ex lovers are in hiding as short order cooks.
Abbot isn’t a woman hater.
I don’t think Gillard hates men either. I think a more appropriate term for Gillard is “misanthrope”.
.
2 Nov 12 at 8:18 am
The lying slapper hates women though. Se thinks married women are enslaved. That’s misogyny right there.
But seriously, who gives a flying fuck who she likes… even hairdressers. She will be out of our fuckng lives soon enough and hopefully we won’t hear a peep from the amoral scrubber.
JC
2 Nov 12 at 8:22 am
Well gee, if Shanahan knows so much, why isn’t he a politician. No doubt Abbott and co have their plans and strategies. Working pretty well at the moment. Recall this time last year where Gillard finished the year amid accolades as the great negotiator, and awesome tactician because she put Slipper in as Speaker. I think Shanahan even thought so. How well did that work out ?
Nevertheless the libs are intent this year to deny labor any possibility of finishing the Parliamentary year on an upbeat. They kept their powder dry on the AWU/S&G corruption until now. Shanahan is probably right that labor is pretty much resigned to staying with Gillard as leader, so it would be a devastating blow to their plans if the libs got her scalp. They have one more sitting week this year – it could happen. Seems to me Shanahan wrote this as just another way of avoiding discussion of Gillard’s shady past. So far as I can see, he has never written a word on it.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 8:24 am
The Fairfax civil war with itself continues with lone senior Age journo Mark Baker continuing to investigate Gillard’s past and the company’s zombie Green left editors continuing to bury the story. You have to know where this story is in FXJ cyberspace to find it:
If it was Abbott they were investigating, there’d be a team of 6-10 on the story, with big caps headlines on the front page.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 8:28 am
ftfy
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 8:28 am
Yeah we will, she will whinge for better goal conditions for ex PM’s.
Rudiau
2 Nov 12 at 8:30 am
I’m sure many people missed this brilliant piece by Miranda Devine on Gillard’s behaviour earlier this week:
Strongly recommended read.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 8:33 am
which is completely flawed.
Have you washed up after breakfast shithead?
Tiny Dancer
2 Nov 12 at 8:38 am
Mirand Devine argues that conservative women like her don’t like Gillard. Gee, that’s a surprise.
steve from brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 8:44 am
Tom, do you have a service record or any proven acts of gallantry that might give you the right to make any statements about the Victoria Cross?
alan
2 Nov 12 at 8:48 am
Whereas aged lobotomised beta losers like shitfer just love the fat, stupid lying dragon.
Wow, that’s an even bigger surprise…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 8:48 am
CL
I too have read many VC citations, and I have to say that I think you are being a bit harsh. The bar has not been lowered.
Rococo Liberal
2 Nov 12 at 8:49 am
Tom, do you stand with the womens women at the bbq or are you one of the chaps talking to the the other kind?
alan
2 Nov 12 at 8:51 am
Behold the heroic fightback from oblivion!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 8:52 am
BTW
If you have any spare cash, give some to these people, who are helping the widows and children of fallen Special Forces troops.
http://www.commandotrust.com/
Rococo Liberal
2 Nov 12 at 8:54 am
It’s extremely hard being banned or moderated as the opinions of some of your contributors are a bit hard to read without passion rising. Do you think you could let me back in, or at least ban me from reading the stuff?
alan
2 Nov 12 at 8:54 am
WTF? Sister’s code?
I think Devine bombed here. I like a post junior high school society where men and women talk to each other…and if people want to start a relationship they don’t do that junior high school crap either.
.
2 Nov 12 at 8:56 am
Dot, women 101 FAIL.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 8:58 am
The Gutless Antisemitic Left Goes Anonymous
Rudiau
2 Nov 12 at 9:24 am
What women don’t want to leave junior high? Fine, they lose enfranchisement.
.
2 Nov 12 at 9:26 am
With the epic corruption of New South Wales Labor now coming to light, the ABC’s Lateline is miffed. Last night Tony Jones’s ‘coming up on Lateline’ teaser used the phrase “show trials.”
And from the main story’s transcript:
Mmm. I wonder what “circles” they would be
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 9:32 am
CL,
I wonder if ICAC could commence contempt proceedings against the ABC. To use the term “show trial” is a massive smear against ICAC’s independence.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 9:41 am
Attention: dover_beach
Mittens is now at $3.75 on sportsbet.com.au
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 9:42 am
From the profile of Ipp, the chap running the ICAC inquiry, that was published today – I think the ABC had better tread carefully. Describing his proceedings as a ‘show trial’ would not sit well with him.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/commissioner-prowls-then-pounces-without-a-thought-for-mercy-20121101-28mxf.html
ICAC has power to deal with people who hold it in contempt, including fines and jail. The motormouths at the ABC should not imagine that Ipp would not use them.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 9:54 am
Gillard looks after Slipper
Yep, a deal was done on that day of infamy last month.
Septimus
2 Nov 12 at 9:57 am
So gillard rewards a foul-mouthed misogynist and someone who has “issues” with his expenses. I’m not surprised at all. Slipper fits in well with the Labor coven.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:08 am
The rent-seeking parasites that specialise in milking governments and regulated industries are on the march again. They’re now after their pound of flesh for Melbourne’s desalination plant, which was built in a rush on the orders of the nation-wrecking Greens:
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 10:09 am
Bought, paid for and owned.
He is their creature.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 10:13 am
It’s such a surprise that things keep going up in NSW even although Mr. O’Farrell has stumbled over a Billion Dollars he didn’t think he had. You’ve all been had, you right leaning people.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 10:18 am
So Slipper’s crying and speech in Parliament was all fake, he knew there was a deal being made. quelle surprise.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 10:22 am
True ignorance is not just the fiefdom of the uneducated classes.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 10:28 am
Yeah, and getting up in parliament and screeching misogyny at the opposition leader, getting the term redefined in the dictionary, and then refusing to answer questions under the misogyny defense – they’re all great looks.
The wrongology practice is open and in full swing.
brc
2 Nov 12 at 10:31 am
On the VC thing – whether by outcome or by design, the bar for a VC award is always going to operate on some type of bell curve, with the recipients being the ones at the thinnest part of the tail.
It will always be impossible to judge bravery between generations and between wars. So it will have to be bravery relative to the current crop. You don’t want a full generation of soldiers to go through the forces and none of them end up with the award, because it’s an important morale and recruitment tool.
So bravo to the chap that won it and as long as they aren’t being debased as a political tool, I have no issue.
brc
2 Nov 12 at 10:34 am
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/gorgon-gets-its-foreign-workers/story-fn9hm1gu-1226508711549
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:38 am
“*Snigger* I see on Sunrise (and the Herald Sun)”
Steve you seem upset that Tony Abbott’s charming and well dressed daughters are going to have day out at the races with their family and looking forward to spending time with their dad because it’s his birthday too.
Is it really so terrible?
candy
2 Nov 12 at 10:39 am
Lone Pine is certainly the right hand edge of the bell curve for VCs.
When seven are won (most in one patch the size of a tennis court during hand-to-hand fighting) during an action contained in an area 160 x 300 yards, and where there are 2300 Australian and 6500-7300 Turkish casualties, you have something very unusual even by WWI standards.
Mk50 of Brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 10:48 am
Second biggest, Gab. Gladstone’s $65 Bn!
Mk50 of Brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 10:51 am
Trouble in paradise?
From Capital Circle.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:52 am
She sure seems to be travelling out of the country a lot more these days. Expect a slight bump in the polls week after next.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:54 am
A fascinating voting map of Canberra’s suburbs at last month’s ACT election. I’m sure Rabz, Julian and other locals have thoughts. The territory still doesn’t have a government as Lib (8) and Lab (8) play Bribe the Green (1).
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:05 am
Andrew Landeryou at VexNews has just published an attack on the ICAC investigation of the NSW Labor slimepit, and a grovelling defence of his presumed pals.
He has also recently attacked questioning of Gillard’s AWU corruption links.
It’s curious – he’s often excellent on corruption issues, but seems very sensitive about these two. I thought it might just be Labor partisanship, but am now starting to wonder if there is more to it …
Oh, and he also described the ICAC hearings as ‘show trials’. I hope Ipp gives the media a first and final warning on this very soon.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 11:08 am
Yes Tom, that map pretty much conformed to what I wrote about the mortgage belts. Some of the red suburbs got absolutely nothing out of labor/green government, yet they’re still red. Chumps. Inner south represents many of the business/corporate people who probably wanted a change in current disastrous economic direction.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 11:19 am
Bill Whittle has good advice for the “true libertarians” who think voting for Gary Johnson will save them from statism:
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334513.php
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 11:20 am
Beyond funny. Labor is trying to distance itself from the greens, and now greens will distance themselves from labor.
That pre-nuptial agreement Bob and Julia signed is looking a bit tatty.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 11:23 am
Gab, expect an announcement : “PM plans asylum seeker Laos solution”
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 11:26 am
Tom
Very Interesting figures in ACT. Makes me wish I’d been in town to vote.
An interesting approach is to view these figures based on where the Govt offices are. You have four main centres Belconnen, Woden, Tuggeranong and Civic (City) Plus the two Universities and most of their accommodation in Civic, Bruce,Lyneham and O’Connor. I am a little surprised there is no Labor voting stronghold near Tuggeranong; Kambah South doesn’t seem enough.
Once you move out of these zones, the proportion of people directly working in govt/academia drops substantially. We all like living close to work.
None the less, the results in Nappy Valley in the south should be a concern for Labor. I suspect this may mean that the newer Nappy zones are actually outside the ACT due to the astonishingly high cost of property here.
dismissive
2 Nov 12 at 11:33 am
Keith,
I may be missing something here, but how on earth would a Liberal greenfilth coalition ‘work’?
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:35 am
Great to see Abbott and his beautiful daughters will be attending Derby Day. If Gillard attended the races someone would whack a saddle on her and stick a carrot in her mouth.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 11:38 am
Top 10: Joe Biden’s dumbest quotes
Only ten?
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:40 am
Biden doesn’t know where he is half the time, Bamma has had the same problem and now Clinton makes it a trifecta:
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:45 am
I don’t know Rabz, it’s probably just noise to impress the gallery. I just like the idea of lefties falling out with each other.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 11:47 am
How’s that Arab Spring working out? Shari’a, table for one.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:47 am
Thanks, Keith, dismissive, Rabzie. “Nappy Valley”. LOL.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:47 am
Christians persecuted throughout the world
The latest bombing in Nigeria shows how Christians are increasingly suffering for their faith – and how their plight is being ignored
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:50 am
dismissive, I think your demographics are a bit out of whack. Firstly, you left out the Parliamentary Triangle, which hosts thousands of bureaucrats. But more to the point, while people like to live near work, in two income households at least one of them probably doesn’t, and further, because agencies get moved around, and people change jobs, the pattern doesn’t work out like that.
The people I worked with in various agencies came from all over town.
The demographics relate more to age and income cohorts. What was once ‘nappy valley’ (Tuggers) is now home to a vast high school age population, and is actually shrinking in number of residents. Because housing was relatively cheap there at first, it does resemble a lot of outer suburban seats in Sydney and Melbourne – as in, mortgages, kids and not necessarily high incomes.
Still, a great result, marred only by the vagaries of the stupid Hare-Clark system putting the Greens in the box seat instead of in the bin.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 11:51 am
Tom
Yes, a very interesting map. There are some obvious answers and some real puzzles.
Oaks Estate is near Queanbeyan and near the railway, and is a fairly poor enclave. The whole of Queanbeyan really functions as a working class locale near Canberra, but outside the ACT. Oaks Estate is in some ways part of Queanbeyan. Naturally it votes Labor.
Tharwa is quite rural and might vote Coalition simply on that basis.
Inner South (Forrest, Red Hill, Yarralumla etc.) are wealthy areas and naturally vote Liberal. So do some of the politer parts of Weston Creek (I think I spot Chapman, a “prestige suburb”, and Holder, which I visited this morning, and which is really very charming).
The Labor dominance of Inner North and Belconnen makes some sort of sense (bit of Greens sentiment near the Uni perhaps and Belco has the reputation of being a bit less classy, although my own suburb, Aranda, is quite “leafy”, tho’ full of academics and similar Labor leaning types).
Campbell is an outlier, just north of the Lake and really part of Inner North, but it has strong associations with the armed forces which would push it in the Liberal direction.
The real puzzles are the Liberal areas in the two recent “nappy vallies”, the younger areas of Tuggeranong and Gungahlin. I would have predicted Tuggers would go Labor, and that is a real surprise. Some “aspirational” voters thing – maybe mortgages are a concern? Same with Gungahlin?
Clearly Labor has made some of the more middle-of-the-road Canberrans unhappy.
Julian O'Dea
2 Nov 12 at 11:53 am
Sounds like I’m 10 years out of date Johanna. I suppose I should start getting involved locally again. I find I spend more time outside the ACT than in these days.
My experience in those days matches what I said but things change and you’re more likely correct.
dismissive
2 Nov 12 at 11:57 am
aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha – i need to buy keyboard cleaner now.
Carpe Jugulum
2 Nov 12 at 11:59 am
Julian
Tuggeranong and Gungahlin are relatively recent and feel service poor (definitely not by outer Melbourne standards) and were thus sensitive to any talk about increased revenues being raised from housing with little in return. Gungahlin still has a commuter traffic problem to Civic for instance. I’m puzzled by well established suburbs that remain service poor or have lost services, remaining solidly labor.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 12:03 pm
Rabz, that is just too good to pass up. Sometime today or tomorrow I’m going to bite the bullet and put $400 on Mitt. How about you?
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 12:18 pm
Those of us who grew up and lived in “nappy valley” know quite well exactly what the new Labor party thinks of our drinking, smoking, 4wding, fishing, dirt bike riding, aspirational “bogan” ways.
ACT Labor does not in any way shape or form represent the “working” class. It’s a party wholly and totally dedicated to the technocratic and Green Left public servant classes. The “working class” in Canberra (as separate from the oaks estate welfare class) know this, have been insulted by this and almost driven out of the city by the same.
Rents for average four bedroom houses are pushing $550 in shitty old Richardson and Banks. Ten years ago a small two bedroom home in Banks was bought for $140,000 the same house now is “worth” $310,000. This does not make the young family with a mechanic for a father and part time secratary mother happy. For a family not in the APS to buy a family home one is looking at $400k+ in what is effectively a country town private economy.
Labor have totally withdrawn basic government services from the south: Nature strips which used to make Canberra aren’t tended anymore, nearly every suburb has schools that have been shut down, fenced up then left to rot for years.
Every square inch of space has been filled in with 1950′s Soviet era style Ghettos.
And to top it all off – to really give all the nappy valley “bogans” the middle finger – they go and stick a god awful fluro orange massive piece of “artwork” in the middle of the parkway. Knowing full well what the locals will think.
No, no love for ACT Labor in the south.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 12:19 pm
Keith
Yes, Gungahlin has had irritating commuter problems. And The Greens copped some of the blame by delaying the GDE.
As for Inner North, that is quite an old area, and there may be some low income retirees and pensioners pushing the vote to Labor. Also, there are some cheap flats around Civic and up Northbourne Avenue that might make a difference.
It is interesting to see that the Eastern fringe of Inner South still has some Labor areas, although I wonder if that is not gentrification by public service yuppies who might vote Labor, as well as some continuing working class effect there, e.g. in Narrabundah, Griffith and what used to be called The Causeway.
The Woden Valley is strongly Labor. I wonder if that is not a bit like Inner North: an ageing, not very wealthy, population.
I suspect the rates rise campaign might have bitten especially hard in the areas like Gungahlin and Tuggeranong, which are pretty much mortgage belt.
Julian O'Dea
2 Nov 12 at 12:20 pm
Very good points twostix. The housing affordability and deliberate withholding of land supply to boost rates and land tax revenues are very sore points indeed.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 12:28 pm
dover – I need to overcome my natural aversion to gambling, but $500 this arvo, hopefully…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 12:33 pm
Much of the private economy citizenry was driven out in 2009/2010 after Rudds mass APS expansion. We know three families in the private economy who left, including us – we can live anywhere and work so couldn’t see the point in staying to pay the now ridiculous rents and moved to the beach. The others moved to Queanbeyan and one to Yass.
As Julian wonders:
This is exactly the case – as the privately employed traditional residents of Tuggeranong are leaving they’re being replaced (or being driven out) by young APS employed couples.
Coincidentally that’s a situation that suits ACT Labor just fine.
Strange huh?
In any case Queanbeyan is starting to really thrive with the influx of Howards “battlers” and that’s also affecting the Eden Monaro vote federally.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 12:49 pm
Sinc. how can you put up with the rubbish from from these people? They seem to have a mean mental age of about 16 years.
“Let’s write something smutty on the back of the toilet door” giggle giggle smirk giggle.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 12:49 pm
Agree with twostix and Julian – Labor is hardly the party of the battlers in this town. All that snuggling up to the Greens has done them a lot of harm.
Yes, they despise ‘aspirational’ working people; they hate smoking, drinking, gambling, motor sport and cars with a passion; they regard recycling and public transport as the path to Nirvana; they waste millions on hideous ‘public art’ and grants to their pals while schools and hospitals struggle; and worst of all, they are complicit in the endlessly rising costs of water, gas and electricity, underpinned by lectures from the Greens about how we all consume too much.
The only battlers they care about are criminals, who are regarded as misunderstood and rarely sent to jail.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 12:52 pm
Julian, Thanks for the picture you’ve painted, which is extremely useful. I can’t wait to find out which party the Greens are going to destroy in the ACT.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 1:01 pm
Rabz, DB, I’m already in for $200 @ $3.50. I’ll go again tomorrow with another $400 @ $3.50 or better. Mitt can pay for my Christmas shopping. Thank you to the Black Jesus for being an airhead America can’t afford.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 1:06 pm
Sounds like the rules the Progressives forced on our society all those years ago. The left is always trying to limit and control.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 1:09 pm
Yes, Lizzie, we feel the same about JuLiar.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 1:12 pm
Islam teaches children valuable life skills. Join the jihad today!
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 1:16 pm
When I was a kid back in the 80′s we had a neighbour across the road – a single mum, pretty hardcore caarrrrn style shaz with two teenage daughters.
One night they were having a party, it was late and a bunch of guys spilled over onto our front lawn having a biffo and then one of them runs to his car and gets a rifle out comes back over and starts pointing it at people.
I remember mum calling the police who then had a go at her for calling, said they’d send someone out…and never did.
Stories like this regarding the joker AFP are rife in Canberra.
Quality AFP.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 1:17 pm
I still maintain that one of Abbott’s first acts when he wins the election should be to abolish the ACT and incorporate it back into NSW.
The ACT electoral system and gubberment is an inexcusable abomination.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 1:18 pm
The PR system stops absolute ALP majorities.
The ACT should be ruled as an anything goes Federal fiefdom as should the NT and PNG, Fiji, Tasmania and NZ…
.
2 Nov 12 at 1:21 pm
Abolish the ACT. Make Tassie (same pop. as ACT) a federal territory to cut the cost of government. QED.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 1:25 pm
Labor – still no idea. Still useless. Still playing at being grown-ups.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 1:29 pm
I heard some scuttlebutt last time I was there that some of the administrative depts might be going to the regions under Abbott – though that was “threatened” a few times under Howard as well.
What needs to happen is Treasury to Sydney, Immigration to Perth, AFP to Brisbane, Centrelink to Melbourne & Medicare to Adelaide.
Problem solved.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 1:31 pm
Stix,
There is no reason, whatsoever, for the ACT to have ‘self government’.
Even the residents rejected it in a referendum.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 1:37 pm
The ACT can’t be ‘abolished’ – it is provided for in the Constitution. However, it need be no larger than 100 square miles, and the rest could be handed back to NSW – provided the Commonwealth parliament and a majority of NSW electors agree.
The Constitution has significant (probably insurmountable) barriers to abolishing Tasmania or any other State against its will.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 1:39 pm
Ministers want their Departments’ senior executives and policy people close at hand when Parliament is sitting, so there is no chance of moving them holus bolus to other places. Central agencies like Treasury, PM&C and Finance will never move at all.
That said, a lot of peripheral functions and agencies could be located elsewhere.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 1:45 pm
Fine – then just abolish the frigging ACT government and go back to the previous arrangement.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 1:46 pm
Agreed.
Canberra was beautiful – spectacularly gorgeous before self government.
Gorgeous suburbs, well maintained public spaces, and cared about – as the national capital should be.
Now it’s an ugly overgrown, over regulated, run down shithole that outside the government favoured areas (CBD and inner north) looks like a cross between a dying country town and 1970′s Belarus.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 1:53 pm
Ditto for Tasmania.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 1:59 pm
And the Nothing Territory.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 2:01 pm
Hey, let’s give railway ‘police’ Glocks.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 2:01 pm
Bugger – sounds like the genius just missed his foot…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 2:03 pm
Yesterday, Tillman snarks:
Meanwhile, in the real world:
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 2:09 pm
I’m fucking speechles. This isn’t chump change for Rhode island either.
JC
2 Nov 12 at 2:12 pm
Hey, twostix, as a resident of the inner South (home of the Parliamentary triangle and Canberra’s most expensive suburbs) I resemble that remark
Things are not too shabby around here.
But, I agree that overall the joint is run-down, dilapidated and mismanaged compared to the pre self-government era.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 2:16 pm
Tasmania can’t be abolished, but Senate reform should ensure that it doesn’t get to elect any Greens. It should be pro rata in all things, including funding – at least until they wake up to themselves and remember that they have to have real jobs, not “Green” ones, in order to be a functioning state.
blogstrop
2 Nov 12 at 2:19 pm
Ah, the old federal cash umbilical. Good times.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 2:27 pm
The way Tassie is going they’ll have to put in an administrator before long and declare a duck season on greenfilth…
max49
2 Nov 12 at 2:29 pm
Man claims “discrimination” for being banned from girls’ toilets, little girls told to stop being so hateful.
The cock-exposing criminal says he’s a victim:
Meanwhile…
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 2:31 pm
Tasmania can’t be abolished but NSW and QLD can be split into two with a little prodding.
Imagine two more productive rural states.
Bye bye Tasmania’s, the NT’s, SA’s and the ACT’s undue influence in this country.
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 2:32 pm
They really do pile it on thick and it’s pretty disgusting to equate complaints about a bloke in a girls’ locker room to what Negroes suffered under the Democrat’s KKK.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 2:36 pm
Allison Anderson’s message resonates in the US as well.
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 2:37 pm
Remember the video of the TSA guy, or whatever he was, giving the schoolkids a lecture on gun safety?
“I am the only person in this room qualified to handle this gun” – BOOM!
Limps off stage left.
Although to his credit he did ask if anyone else was hit, before dragging himself off.
Eddystone
2 Nov 12 at 2:37 pm
max:
I’d pay good money for a game license to hunt greenfilth. I have a mate who can produce the copper-plated solid steel bullets you’d need for headshots on greenfilth: hitting a lentil-sized brain inside the vast mass of solid bone their heads contain is tough.
But someone’s gotta do it. It’s a public service.
And they are easy (if disgusting) to clean, no backbone, no guts, but completely full of sh*t. if you shoot a 100kg greenfilth just slice it open, drain the sh*t out and you have 3kg of decent crab-bait.
Mk50 of Brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 2:38 pm
Gab, I believe the African-American saying is, “don’t compare your sin to my skin.”
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 2:39 pm
Entrepreneurs and technology are not waiting for government to bite the deregulation bullet on taxis.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/apps-put-nsw-taxi-monopoly-in-doubt-20121102-28nv6.html
Jarrah
2 Nov 12 at 2:40 pm
What a Pro!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 2:41 pm
That would be a DEA agent!
Eddystone
2 Nov 12 at 2:41 pm
Eddystone, he was DEA:
Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IZlcbJwfP4
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 2:46 pm
COCK-RACISTS!!111!!!
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 2:54 pm
I believe the African-American saying is, “don’t compare your sin to my skin
They do have a way with words.
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 2:56 pm
After an exchange of emails Allan has had posting rights restored.
Sinclair Davidson
2 Nov 12 at 2:56 pm
Mk50 of Brisbane LOL
max49
2 Nov 12 at 2:59 pm
From another thread (H/T: NT Oldie):
The ALPBC is running a head line story:- “New York mayor Michael Bloomberg has endorsed the re-election of Barack Obama, citing the president’s leadership on climate change.”
LOL. Honestly, they are shameless liars; the ALPBC and Bloomberg.
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 3:00 pm
sdog @ 1437,
Notice Chris Murphy can’t stay out of the Tweets – comment re Anderson
Mike of Marion
2 Nov 12 at 3:03 pm
Hooray – everybody’s favourite controversial scottish pensioner and poet in residence is back!
Back, Baby, BACK!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 3:04 pm
Tasmania can’t be abolished but NSW and QLD can be split into two with a little prodding……That would create another state Gov which imho is the last thing we need.In fact I would be happy to them all go.
max49
2 Nov 12 at 3:05 pm
STOP PRESS:
laybore/greenfilth eturned to power in ACT
Gee, nobody could have foreseen this outcome…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 3:12 pm
Sorry – ‘returned’ to power…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 3:13 pm
Is is no surprise the same spiv that dug up the Ramjan claims is the one making the digusting “Aunty Tom” smeers.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 3:18 pm
Black day for the Cat, Doomlord.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:19 pm
Well the Canberra Times can crow they got the election result correct (but only that part).
Token
2 Nov 12 at 3:20 pm
Another oopsie at the ICAC:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/hitandrun-revelation-stuns-icac-inquiry-20121102-28og4.html
It seems the free car then Roads Minister Roozendaal received for unspecified favours was involved in a hit and run while in his possession. Nobody twigged because it was in someone else’s name at the time.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 3:22 pm
Hard to imagine a more hatefilled arsehole. He’s the Uncle Tom he accuses Alison of being:
Fuck off, you evil whitefellah prick, and take your murderous ALP sitdown money with you.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 3:22 pm
Aren’t we over quota for lefties? We should throw some of the smaller ones back.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 3:23 pm
We really need an Australian version of twitchy – the site does great work, and is a great help for conservatives to “take control” on twitter. Twitter aint half us much fun for conservatives in Australia.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 3:27 pm
What a gift for the Abbott government-in-waiting. When do Canberra’s rates and charges go up to pay for the Green fantasies the ALP will be forced to finance?
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 3:29 pm
Can someone please do screen shots of Chris Murphy’s racist tweets 9there’s a few of them). Or please tell me how to do screen shots?
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:29 pm
It’s pretty abysmal how the Left in this country want to prevent Aborigines from gaining their independence.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:30 pm
“Or please tell me how to do screen shots?”
On PC, press the PrtScn button, then paste into Paint.
Jarrah
2 Nov 12 at 3:31 pm
Yes I know how to do that, Jarrah, thanks., I meant to be able to post online so people can link to it.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:35 pm
I use http://www.uploadscreenshot.com/
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 3:39 pm
Most people have known this for some time: Pepsi sucks.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 3:40 pm
Thanks, Spot. That’s what I couldn’t remember.
Thanks anyway, Jarrah.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:40 pm
Rattenbury’s shopping list :
Mega debt for the ACT coming up.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 3:41 pm
Just came across an interesting statistic on the SMH website re its own coverage of political parties. From the “National” page:
(Number of stories)
All Organisations (13468)
The Greens (2500)
Labor Party (1626)
Liberal Party (1589)
That’s the kind of balanced, independent coverage we keep hearing about from Fauxfacts apologists.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 3:43 pm
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:44 pm
That SMH ICAC piece is (unintentionally) hilarious.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 3:44 pm
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:45 pm
So.
It’s official.
“From Tasmania to Canberra – A vote for Labor is a vote for a Labor Green Coalition Government”
Aren’t these people just the most amazing liars?
twostix
2 Nov 12 at 3:48 pm
What’s with this Derby Day thing – just because the Abbott family will be there including gorgeous daughters, it’s bringing out the Labor party nutters.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 3:49 pm
Weren’t the malignant fruitloops talking about a commitment to 100% renewable energy for the ACT in five years or some other such insanity?
As I said earlier, Abbott needs to abolish this useless destructive collective of staggeringly stupid rabble, ASAP.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 3:49 pm
What Obama says when the media spotlight is on:
What he truly stands for:
Looks the union snouts are already in the trough again…
Token
2 Nov 12 at 3:51 pm
Go ahead, try mentioning Twitter on Bolt’s or Blair’s blog. You’ll get page after page of “TWITTER is STUPID” … “TWITTER is for TWITS!!11!!”
It’s getting a bit better, but not much. Aussie conservatives seem to lack something when it comes to social media.
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 3:57 pm
Funny you should mention that as i’ve always thought Spot should set up an Australian version of Twitchy.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 3:58 pm
Abbott has a loving family, candy – it’s proof how old-fashioned he is. Here he is – a married man with kids – and the misogynistic misogynist wouldn’t even have an affair with Gillard!
And as for his wife, she’s a WIFE. Wives are whores, according to Gillard. So Abbott is sleeping with a whore, and his kids are whore-spawn.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 4:06 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 4:10 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 4:12 pm
Give it tiem. Most people do not understand the communication power, they see it as a toy.
Try this.
I explain to people who say that how I can get notices from the State Fire Service and note what happened on Black Friday.
In fact last Sunday there was a fire in the National Park near me and there was a lot of smoke around. I went onto the NSW Fire Service and saw a note reporting the fire was reported 2 km away.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 4:12 pm
Honestly sdog, it’s a bit of a slog… I occasionally get on there and have a good crack, but I couldn’t put up with it on a daily basis – it’s at least five to one against me.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 4:15 pm
How much groveling and false promises did you make to get back Alan, you pathetic turd.
JC
2 Nov 12 at 4:16 pm
n 1949 the Chifley Labor government passed an Act to confirm that all those who could vote in their states could vote in Commonwealth elections. This gave the right to vote to Aboriginal people in all states except Queensland and Western Australia.[citation needed]
In 1962 the Commonwealth Electoral Act was amended to give indigenous people the right to enrol and vote in Commonwealth elections irrespective of their voting rights at the state level. If and only if they were enrolled, it was compulsory to vote. However, enrolment itself was not compulsory and it was illegal under Commonwealth legislation to encourage indigenous people to enrol to vote. Any person enrolled who failed to vote could be liable to prosecution and a fine.
You will notice Gab that it was a Labour that brought in the vote for the Indiginous people of Australia.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 4:20 pm
It was also a labor government that set a high wage for drovers essentially putting the blacks out of jobs, Hagus.
JC
2 Nov 12 at 4:23 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 4:24 pm
Labour were in power in 1962 or 1967?
.
2 Nov 12 at 4:24 pm
Got it wrong again Allen
max49
2 Nov 12 at 4:26 pm
Rabz I couldn’t help but notice that you were hoping to get some money on Romney this afternoon? If you are not set, your friendly Turf Accountant is open for business. My odds are listed over on the “polls are wrong” discussion. Got a good double going on Romney/Abbott as well. Get it while the going is good.
Mad Punter
2 Nov 12 at 4:28 pm
Seriously….
I took monty on a wager, $50 for $50.
It was stupid, Romney was over $3.
Your odds are shit, punter.
.
2 Nov 12 at 4:30 pm
ICAC sounds like old re-runs of Minder with wogs and Lebs.
You can have your Joh Bjelke-Petersens, your Brian Burkes and your Underbelly types but no-one does corruption better than a New South Welshman.
H B Bear
2 Nov 12 at 4:30 pm
NSW is actually pretty piss poor. They are so incompetent, that’s why they’re infamous.
Remember how Joh tried to sue QLD for 300 mln after the Fitzgerlad Inquiry?
.
2 Nov 12 at 4:32 pm
Speaking of corrupt old Queenslanders, here is a reminder of why it is better to be a billionaire than not.
You get to wear sneakers with dress pants. No wonder he’s smiling.
H B Bear
2 Nov 12 at 4:50 pm
Hey, I’ll yield to no-one in my defence of NSW, which has not yet quite gotten over the Rum Rebellion, as the most corrupt State. In fact, I wrote my Master’s thesis about it. It was a real struggle to stay under the word limit
Nick Greiner’s government was clean, but it is difficult to bring any others, of either persuasion, to mind.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 4:52 pm
Lordy!! She’s 33, he’s 68. Grossssss! Eeeeeeew!
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 4:53 pm
Don’t be cynical Gab, women never marry for money.
.
2 Nov 12 at 4:55 pm
Clearly some of them do.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 4:55 pm
Unfortunately for her he will have access to top notch medical care, so she will have to wait quite a time until she can take a young lover.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 4:56 pm
“Clearly some of them do.”
well, she’s 33, so she probably knows what she wants in life and perhaps is a loving wife and makes him happy.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 5:01 pm
Actually it’s just like any other marriage. She is making him get rid of his toys.
H B Bear
2 Nov 12 at 5:02 pm
Yeah, sure. In a world full of men the best she could do was a 68 year-old with droopy bits.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 5:04 pm
Sorry squire, as with cliches, I avoid colourful racing identities like the plague.
I’ll stick with sportsbet.
P.S. Go Mittens!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 5:07 pm
Media Watch Dog has left the kennel.
Although I do not like to see Gerard put the boot into Karina Carvalho because of her exotic beauty and great rack. She is a terrible ALPBC lefty though. Can’t have everything I guess.
H B Bear
2 Nov 12 at 5:10 pm
If you had bothered to read the post properly you would have noticed that it was the Chiefly Govt of 1949 that passed the act. How could you have missed it, right on the first line. You really must try harder Dorothy. (dot).
And Myxomatosis 49 you must learn to spell my name the Scottish way (Alan).
alan
2 Nov 12 at 5:40 pm
Experts.
Experts see risk in Tony Abbott’s red-tape cuts plan.
Who are these “experts”?
Why won’t the public sector like the policy?
And this risible excuse for journalism is in The Australian.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 5:43 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 5:47 pm
Yeah, so they had to modify it in 1962, and pass a referendum in 1967?
Please tell us what the ALP policy towards the Chinese was after Federation? I suspect it was a pettifogging attitude on par with Sir Joh’s attitude towards Aborigines.
You must try harder to be a literate and sober troll.
.
2 Nov 12 at 5:49 pm
Yep sure. Malcolm Fraser paid his station hands with rum, tobacco and forced sex.
Please, go away and put yourself out of misery.
.
2 Nov 12 at 5:51 pm
I thought they already had performance pay, but tying it to red tape reduction is new. Anyway, could a public servant actually conceive of simplifying, streamlining, eliminating ?
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 5:52 pm
Alan, the LABOR Party’s own website says this:
Labor or Labour?
A common query from new members relates to the spelling of the word ‘Labor’. The records tell us that, in the early days, the ALP was known as both ‘Labor’ and ‘Labour’. The report of the party’s federal conference in 1902 was spelled ‘Labor’; in 1905 and 1908 ‘Labour’ and from 1912 ‘Labor’. This final change is thought to have reflected the influence of the then powerful United States labor movement, and especially the influence of Labor’s prominent American-born member King O’Malley. The change also happened to make it easier to distinguish references to the Party from the labour movement in general.”
In other words, doofus, you are wrong. It has been Labor since 1912.
I presume that the rest of your comments demonstrate a similar level of keen research. That took me about 15 seconds, btw.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 5:53 pm
alan must be Homer Paxton. The stupidity is palpable.
.
2 Nov 12 at 5:57 pm
Alan, learn to use blockquotes properly – it’s getting irritating.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 6:02 pm
Fleasy I am using them right. You must have a crook eye as well as a scaberous split heel.
Dorothy I have told you I am a Celtic Gentleman of faultless breeding.
Johanna, I do not have a degree and I left school at 14 to persue a trade that has given me much pleasure to ply.
I am only learning now what I paid for you to learn through the taxation system that appears to turn out rude ungrateful students that brag about minor achievements from their Uni days.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:14 pm
Alan, I didn’t learn to use Google at uni. I did it on my own time. Maybe you should try it? Especially now that you are living off the taxpayer for the rest of your life, and have plenty of spare time.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 6:19 pm
Basket weaving?
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 6:20 pm
Fatso Christie hasn’t done much, beside lecturing people:
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 6:20 pm
Alan – you sound like one of Alice’s multiple personalities with your bullshit “four yorkshiremen” life story.
.
2 Nov 12 at 6:22 pm
And this risible excuse for journalism is in The Australian.
The poison runs deep CL. Apparently there are now some pollies demanding, on constitutional grounds, for the Federal govt to fund a high court challenge to the laws which removed many of their perks.
Dead Soul
2 Nov 12 at 6:27 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:29 pm
alan if you insist on soiling this site with your crap at least learn to how use the quote buttons.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:31 pm
No, you’re not. You keep putting your reply in blockquotes along with the quoted text. Once is a accident, three times is carelessness… but insisting you were using them right when it’s pointed out to you is just downright stupid.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 6:34 pm
PS: The heel is coming along nicely. Thanks for asking.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 6:34 pm
How’s you heel, Fleeced? What did you administer for the healing?
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:35 pm
Four times with the blockquotes now… Sinc, why’d you let him back?
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 6:36 pm
Dorothy I’m quite aware that ridicule of an aging member of the community is seen by your mob as an acceptable bloodsport. As an old chap with a slightly fading memory I accept that all I do or believe in has a hazy component sometimes. What’s your excuse you self opinionated big noter. Alice had you picked in one go a shadowy creature hiding behind a Dorothy Dot instead of a name.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:37 pm
There was another moron of times recent that couldn’t blockquote. May have been Rex, but they all blend into one after a while.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 6:38 pm
Scrape, slop, slip.
Scrape or file the skin, slop on some cream (or just vaseline), and slip on a sock. Not healed, but getting there.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 6:39 pm
Who is this imaginery “Dorothy” friend of Alan’s that he keeps talking to?
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:40 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:41 pm
So you didn’t go to a professional, Fleeced. Typical male.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:42 pm
Like stray dogs, you feed em, they’re yours.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 6:43 pm
Alan
You are addressed by your moniker. Have the courtesy to do the same for others here at the Cat.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:43 pm
Dot is short for Dorothy, as Gab is short for Gabby.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:44 pm
I had all the advice I needed from the Cat – Why waste taxpayers money to see a Doc?
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 6:45 pm
Like I said,
You are far too familiar and far too rude for one who has been here for all of one day. You just want to stir and have nothing of value to contribute.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:48 pm
I will Gab, if you lot show me the same courtesy and don’t swear at me and call me stupid and refer to me as being stupid etc when I am patently not.
I will call Fleasy by his chosen name if an agreement is reached. I will even try to use the block quotes properly if it stops Fleasy having a fit.Is that OK with you Fleasy?
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:49 pm
Wow you know Alice. I bet you know “philomena” as well.
.
2 Nov 12 at 6:51 pm
Quite so, Keith. And they also clog up the thread with their inanities which makes the Cat refresh very very slow.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:52 pm
Gab, I have been around for some months now, ask Hesus if you don’t believe me. I would like to contribute but I seem to spend my entire arsenal just defending myself.
Hesus has been very rude about me, and my relationship with Mr. Davidson.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 6:53 pm
Sinclair, you’ve let a serious nutjob back in here.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 6:55 pm
The Cat is really going to the dogs.
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 7:01 pm
Who is this Mr Davidson? The moment my back is turned the list is full of trolls like flies at a butcher’s picnic.
Poor Old Rafe
2 Nov 12 at 7:08 pm
Just wandering through the lounge where the ABC news was on. (note to self – stop doing that) Bubble head reporter speaking about Rattenbury : “he’ll have to balance his responsibilities as a Minister, with his independence as the sole greens representative.”
Yeah rrriiiiiggghhhtt
Keith
2 Nov 12 at 7:09 pm
Don’t care how you spell your name Allan…the point is you are still wrong .ALP did not come back to power until 1972,and we all rue that day
max49
2 Nov 12 at 7:16 pm
Media Watch Dog:
● Stop Press : Karina Carvalho Channels the Greens on Carbon Tax
● Can You Bear It: Dee Madigan on the Liberals; Paul Ham Writes to the Emperor of Japan; Elizabeth Harrower and Suburban Roast
● Five Paws Awards: Step Forward Christine Wallace on David Marr & Nicolle Flint on the Handbag Hit Squad
● The Thought of Mark Latham (contd) : From Gillard Attack-Dog to Gillard Guard-Dog
● Nancy on the Couch Talks to Inky on Emily’s List & the Feminist Ascendancy; Ms Gemmell, Ms Woolf & Mr Abbott; Judith Brett’s Lady Macbeth Moment
● News Breakfast Insights: Mohammed El-liessy’s Rants; Dr Burchill’s Shirt-Exchange Offer
● Correspondence: Terry McCrann Documents the Economic and Historical Ignorance of Mr Koukoulas – Defender of the Whitlam Economic Record (Believe it or Not)
STOP PRESS : KARINA CARVALHO (CHANELLING BOB BROWN) V GREG HUNT ON NEWS BREAKFAST THIS MORNING
JamesK
2 Nov 12 at 7:31 pm
Hesus said you were a fuckwit
Tiny Dancer
2 Nov 12 at 7:42 pm
Quote from my AGL Electricity bill “NSW Governmentestimates that the Federal Carbon Tax and the green energy schemes add about $316 a year to a typical 7MWh household bill-see ipart.nsw.gov.au
This is made up of $168 Carbon tax approx. $3.24cpw.
Green energy burden $148 approx. $2.85cpw.
Total approx. $6.10cpw.
This is $3.99cpw. less than the federal subsidy.
The quote is subtly indicating that it is all the Federal Government’s Fault that my bill has the potential to be 40%-50% more than it was 5 years ago.
Assuming that there are 50000 domestic solar installations in NSW the Green Burden would be about
$81 million per year. Divide this by an assumed 4 million customers the green burden per customer would be approx $20 per year. This would also be covered by the subsidy although that was not it’s intention.
The discovery of a one billion accounting error in the NSW income stream it look like we have been had by the State Liberal government. I hope Mr.Hockey is better with his sums. Gee I hope I’m right. Let me know if I’m not.
alan
2 Nov 12 at 7:57 pm
Hesus would know!
alan
2 Nov 12 at 7:59 pm
DOT,
The wonders of severe insomnia and deepening depression.
Early this morning I watched “The Big Red One”. It is about Samuel Fuller, a sargent in US First Infantry in WW2. Covers African, Italian, D-Day, and European campaigns. Based on his story. Originally in 1980, I saw the remastered version which is too long. Nonetheless Lee Marvin is brilliant in the role as the sargent, Mark Hamill of Star Wars fame is also very good. Sad and violent at times but immeasurably better than those John Wayne type movies. More down to earth and realistic. Samuel Fuller stated that the only glory in war is surviving. Recommended viewing.
Dead Soul
2 Nov 12 at 8:00 pm
Karina Carvalho. She who professed live on camera to ‘losing her State of Origin cherry’ earlier this year – to embarassed silence from her male co-hosts.
Airhead.
Septimus
2 Nov 12 at 8:03 pm
Jeez Sinc, the sniveling and grovelling this nutjob ‘Alan’ must have put in had to be world-class.
But he’s a rather tawdry, shoddy little troll. Are no better ones available? He a sort of cheap Chinese knockoff of a troll.
I assume he’s here for our amusement, so that we bat all his pitiful carcass over the place like a calf-corpse in a game of buzkhashi?
Mk50 of Brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 8:12 pm
In Gerard’s Media Watchdog the loathsome Mark Latham again has a featuring role as possibly Australia’s biggest hypocrite. He’s had more positions than the Kama Sutra, but media outlets keep paying him to spout his rubbish. Is there such a dearth of talent in this country that this hack keeps getting paid broadcast and print time to share his latest Facebook quality thought-bubble?
As JSM used to say – Why Is It So?
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 8:13 pm
Sorry, two ‘r’s in embarrassed. I blame the wine . . . . and the beer . . . . Friday night.
Septimus
2 Nov 12 at 8:14 pm
“Yeah, sure. In a world full of men the best she could do was a 68 year-old with droopy bits.”
True, Gab, but at 33 she’s not young and naive, made her bed, gotta lie in it.
Obviously if her husband was an aged pensioner she wouldn’t have found him quite so attractive.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 8:17 pm
Fleeced, why didn’t you use my ACME cotton ball shock absorber?
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 8:19 pm
“The heel is coming along nicely”
Hey Fleeced, honey is also a good healing substance for wounds, as is Paw Paw ointment.
You obviously an active person so keep your feet moisturised, your girlfriends won’t like cracked feet, women look at stuff like that.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 8:24 pm
There goes the neighbourhood – again.
blogstrop
2 Nov 12 at 8:36 pm
Who is else is fired up for the jobs report in three hours?
Lord Tillman
2 Nov 12 at 8:38 pm
Gee Candy ..women go that far.Us men are much more focused..
max49
2 Nov 12 at 8:41 pm
News reports on the asylum seeker/country shopper/thin end of da wedge for the west of the famiwy scam have again neglected to mention the unmentionable TPV component of the previously successful coalition border protection policy.
The totally bankrupt ABC had an item tonight with a senior (well, old) Indonesian saying that they’d keep coming despite Nauru and probably Manus. No shit, Sherlock?
Disband the lying, complicit, partisan ABC.
blogstrop
2 Nov 12 at 8:42 pm
Strop, Doomlord wishes us to continue searching for the benificence in His divine cruelty.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 8:47 pm
He’s scottish, Mark and I find him absolutely hilarious.
His epic struggles with the block quote function are the stuff of legend.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 8:49 pm
I have to admit, Rabz, that watching him getting into a fight with the block quotes function – and losing – has been hilarious.
When he was but a very small puppy, our Kid the Last’s little white furball got into a fight with a large leaf and also lost. This idiot is as amusing as that but without the cute factor (and without the excuse of being a little puppy).
Mk50 of Brisbane
2 Nov 12 at 8:57 pm
You’re easily amused Rabz when it’s only a couple of keystrokes to remove someone who has come here only to pick fights.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 9:01 pm
Fleeced, why didn’t you use my ACME cotton ball shock absorber?
Because he took my advice, that’s why. Socks ‘n all.
Thus…
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 9:02 pm
Absolutely, Candy. It amazes me why men don’t get a pedicure every six weeks.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 9:04 pm
On the whole Gab we are not that good at looking after ourselves..known fact.
max49
2 Nov 12 at 9:32 pm
Yeah, well it doesn’t amaze me!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 9:36 pm
And then proceeds to punch himself in the face.
Repeatedly.
Lighten up, Squire!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 9:38 pm
The sock cure was stupid.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 9:49 pm
“Absolutely, Candy. It amazes me why men don’t get a pedicure every six weeks”
For sure, a spot of good male grooming doesn’t go astray. (of course, if a fellow’s a mechanic or similar, he’s going to have a mechanic’s hands, that’s different).
candy
2 Nov 12 at 9:51 pm
That’s mostly true Max. Look it’s not so difficult, Max and Rabz, to book in with a beautician or beauty therapist for a pedicure. Your feet deserve the pampering; after all, those feet work very hard for us. Once every six weeks is ideal. And if the skin is too thick at the heels, cracked or whatever, see a podiatrist first and get that all sorted. Then get a pedicure every six weeks. Lots of men do this, not just gay men either! Nails trimmed and shaped, rough skin removed and soothing foot massage as the finale. Why would you not want that??!!
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 9:52 pm
Cant argue that Gab,but Im off the hook ..I was once a mechanic LOL
max49
2 Nov 12 at 9:56 pm
No excuse, Max
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 9:59 pm
Your a hard marker Gab,but I’m invoking the Candy defense…
max49
2 Nov 12 at 10:06 pm
Never gonna happen, candy. Sounds like New Age, pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo anyway, but even if it isn’t, it’s never gonna happen.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:06 pm
So, Gab, you want a man with girly feet who can’t walk on hot sand on your tropical island and has to wear shoes to carry you into the surf?
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 10:07 pm
And LOL, no I’m really not. Probably at the opposite end of the spectrum, in fact… I just go barefoot too much, though I guess that has to stop.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:09 pm
Got carp?
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 10:10 pm
The Doomlord has spoken, if we ignore him he’ll whither and move on to haunt the next crosswords of the inter-web.
______________
That is not new age, it is a parents best friend. I’ve put nurses with 30 years experience on it and they were converted in one day.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 10:12 pm
“Never gonna happen, candy. Sounds like New Age, pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo anyway, but even if it isn’t, it’s never gonna happen.”
okay, well just a thought, i’ve found it helpful with minor scrapes, burns and wounds, you know, just minor stuff.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 10:12 pm
Tom, I can walk into the surf without assistance
There is nothing “girly” about good grooming – and a foot massage to boot!! Last thing a female/male wants is to be scratched by the partners’ rough, cracked heels and/or sharp toe nails. Spoils the romance.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:12 pm
Because I’ve been blessed with a lack of foot problems throughout my life?
I get a bit of “hard heel” in summer when not wearing socks and shoes as often as in winter – and hey, there is nothing more satisfyingly elemental than getting around in bare feet in summer.
The biggest foot problem I’ve suffered in the last god knows how many years was nearly breaking my right big toe trying to belt a volley into goal in a soccer match this winter. But hey, the bruising is nearly all recovered. Bit more hotter weather and it’ll be finally, Adios!
As for the rest – find me an aesthetically pleasing young woman to perform those menial tasks at a reasonable rate and I might consider it!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 10:13 pm
Can’t very well have smoosshy foot uncovered, and I’m a lazy man, CL. Why waste time wrapping a foot, when I have a handy device (a sock) wot does it for me.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:13 pm
Paw Paw ointment has been around for 100 years. it’s hardly New Age.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:15 pm
The socks stop the greasy goop from going in the carpet and making the tiles slippery.
I hate wearing sox in summer, but they stop making a mess.
I have a couple of little grater thingies which I use after shower, best time to give them a good going over and it keeps the cracks at bay.
kae
2 Nov 12 at 10:16 pm
That’s okay – thanks for the help… just seems a bit too girly. Men will already be looking down on me for wearing socks to bed (it’s only temporary guys, I swear!)
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:17 pm
Here, Rabz. take your pick.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:18 pm
Most New Age stuff is pretty old, Gab
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:18 pm
Oh Gab, you are a Rainbow!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 10:19 pm
All this talk about feet reminds of romantic Aussie blokes.
Seeing a lovely young lady next to him in a bar, he says: “You remind me of my big toe”.
She: “Why, because I’m small and cute?”
He: “No, because later when I’m drunk I’ll probably bang you on the coffee table”.
Touching, don’t you think?
DavidLeyonhjelm
2 Nov 12 at 10:20 pm
Paw paws are for eating with passionfruit and King Island cream.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 10:21 pm
No
max49
2 Nov 12 at 10:22 pm
I don’t understand the reluctant aw sucks! attitude. You male types can go into a beauty salon/spa and get lots of attention from fine looking women who are qualified in pedicures – and get a foot massage as well!
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:23 pm
Sadly, my most significant contributions to Cat discussions of late have been concerning foot treatment and cockroaches… Kind of disturbing.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:23 pm
Interesting fact:
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/fortune-does-grow-on-trees-20100416-sk9u.html#ixzz2B40YZtjv
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:28 pm
…but they annoyed some trolls, so they were great contributions.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 10:30 pm
An example of an aesthetically pleasing young woman…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 10:30 pm
Well!! Here I am back at the Cat and ready to do battle with things political and economic, and what do I find. Pedicures, home cures, and man cures.
Da Hairy Ape, he who has been talking my head off for an hour since I arrived home, is now playing me Mozart’s clarinet concerto. Second movement, he tells me, is voted every year as UK Classic FM number one. I once likened a female orgasm to a concerto. He tells me I like a good second movement.
Welcome home, Lizzie!!
I am going to take up the clarinet, announces Da Hairy Ape, when I get the time.
Oh, get a pedicure, I tell him.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 10:32 pm
Fish pedicures are ILLEGAL in 10 states, including Florida.
One-percenter bikie gangs & crack houses probably offer them out the back now, with sentries posted to keep an eye out for armed para-militarized Fish & Wildlife Enforcement Agents.
#WarOnEverything
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 10:32 pm
Which reminds me: whatever happened to banana passionfruit? It used to grow at our place at Lorne on the surf coast. Can you still find it in Queensland?
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 10:33 pm
Which reminds me: whatever happened to banana passionfruit? It used to grow wild at our place at Lorne on the surf coast. Can you still find it in Queensland?
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 10:33 pm
Tin snips and a bastard file gets my nails good to go for another twelve months
Splatacrobat
2 Nov 12 at 10:33 pm
Fancy Rabz finding a picture that looks like Gab Lizzie and me, he’s an absolute mind reader.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 10:36 pm
Banana passionfruit are the yellow ones?
I have a plant in a pot ready to put in the ground. Just gotta soften up the earth with the grey water hose for a few days.
kae
2 Nov 12 at 10:37 pm
Ah The Cat,where there’s a cure for everything
Tal
2 Nov 12 at 10:38 pm
Woo-Hoo!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 10:39 pm
Great sdog…
max49
2 Nov 12 at 10:39 pm
Jack Bauer’s daughter? That’s playing with fire, but she might just be worth it.
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 10:39 pm
Ooooh. You got in first Candy. Da Ape says that pic looks just like you Lizze.
Guiness goggles, I say back to him.
But there is a resemblance … blonde, blue eyes, pouting, always pouting at mirrors in the lift ..
Nice to have ya back, says Da Ape. It’s been boring around here widout ya.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 10:41 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 10:42 pm
The Cat Women.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:42 pm
And then one of them comes along and spoils it all.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:44 pm
Ape just asked me what I want.
Banana passionfruit, I said (seductively).
Oh, that airline wine is bad, but somehow good.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 10:45 pm
What’s your view on the criminalization of fish pedicures, Alan?
Is there a poem in there somewhere?
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 10:46 pm
Canb= we get on to Roozendahl? That guy has been scum for ages (and as far as I can see geting clean away with it).
IMHO the past labor state Government in NSW was corrpt from the bottom to the top. Is Barry going after their scalps now? I sincerely hope so
I was saying for years abot Roozendahl being a jerk on the take.
He deserves what he gets – my question is will the slime bag actually get in to trouble or will it be a feather acros the wrist?
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 10:48 pm
Nice to see you back, Lizzie. Hope all went well.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:48 pm
Prrrrrrr…
Prrrrrrr…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 10:48 pm
Dot says
“Alan – you sound like one of Alice’s multiple personalities with your bullshit “four yorkshiremen” life story.”
WTF??
Dot is peaking in tongues….
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 10:51 pm
He can’t get you out of his head, Alice.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:53 pm
Glad you found the pics of us, Gab.
You guys are just so spoiled for choice.
Fish pedicure poem, Ode to Liberty:
Liberty to fish
feeding on feet
Little fish are hungry
Needing feet to eat.
Who could deny
Liberty a voice
Even little fish
Deserve to have choice.
Kyrie eleison, sings Da Hairy Ape to the glorious music.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 10:53 pm
Reminds me of this.
dd
2 Nov 12 at 10:54 pm
Ill bet Allan comes from Glasgow..world famous for highly intelligent rivet bashes and soccer thugs…
max49
2 Nov 12 at 10:54 pm
Alan
dont worry – Dot cant contemplate lives outside his own little field of vision of a starving phd student living off Mummy and Daddy’s money.
Dot get up off your arse and realise some people actually work for a living you precious sod.
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 10:54 pm
Anyone here watching Lateline? That numbnut, Alberici, believes Independents are concerned about ‘marriage’ equality, abortion, and climate. How stupid and ignorant can someone be?
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 10:54 pm
Brava, Lizzie!
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 10:55 pm
Alice please tell us how you, Alan and phil all know each other….and how you graduated from a class of 3000 commerce students in the 1980s from an Australian university…
.
2 Nov 12 at 10:56 pm
FFS, has this flipped into an alternate universe called Better Homes and Gardens for conservatives and libertarians? Facebook for the Toorak Knitting Circle?
Get a grip, please, before you start swapping makeup tips for Young Liberals on the go and the hottest spa of the week.
It’s starting to look like the Sydney Morning Herald/Age website. Next – what Lady Ga Ga Thinks About Fiscal Policy, and Cuticle Care: Should You Tell the ATO the Truth?
I come here to escape that crap.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 10:57 pm
Somebody needs to ease up on the coffee.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 10:58 pm
Speaking of Cat women. Lovely.
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 10:59 pm
All that talk about feet made me think of the beach and hot sand and stuff like this.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 10:59 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 11:00 pm
Bet Burt Lancaster had pedicures.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:01 pm
Does anyone have a nice recipe for organic pumpkin & quinoa scones?
sdog
2 Nov 12 at 11:02 pm
“Fish pedicure poem, Ode to Liberty:”
very touching, Lizzie!
candy
2 Nov 12 at 11:05 pm
Dot its a shame I’m going to bed. I love talking to narrow minded young spoiled phd students normally (NOT).
Poor little Dot doesnt have a past so he seems to have become obsessed with everyone elses past. Strange.
I dont tthink he has much of a future carrying on like this either.
Dot, if this was the Spanish Inquisition you may have landed a plum job with the Catholic Church but these days I cant see much demand for your obvious talents of trying to umm caste doubt on others etc.
Interesting case this boy. Has a strange view on life. im trying to see some use for his skills. There must be something out there that suits him. You might call nits a forensic investigatory style – except, currently, he is wrong too often.
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:06 pm
Welcome to Friday Night @ da Cat, Johanna!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:06 pm
I remember that scene,haunted me for years…thought every time you had you drowned…
max49
2 Nov 12 at 11:06 pm
alan
2 Nov 12 at 11:07 pm
you got sand everywhere
kae
2 Nov 12 at 11:07 pm
I used to know a guy that was a professional photoshopper, he was always sending me updates of his portfolio of work.
He actually said they intentionally take photos with what we would normally consider to be bad lighting ie: they accentuate all the lines and shadows because it made it easier to photoshop.
Trust nothing.
Jeremiah
2 Nov 12 at 11:08 pm
Burt Lancaster didn’t have hair on his chest, far as I could tell.
candy
2 Nov 12 at 11:09 pm
Hey, I know those article times, you are talking about those economics articles written by the economics in society graduate Jess Irvine.
She is now writing for the Daily Tele and the FacePalm (Punch).
Token
2 Nov 12 at 11:09 pm
Or da vino, n’est-ce pas, Gab, pour moi? Or maybe we all need to break out a bit sometimes, JoJo?
I did, after all, listen to Gillard on da TV while waiting for the plane. Give me endurance, I prayed, almost aloud.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 11:10 pm
alan’s epic struggle continues.
Here’s hoping history does it justice…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:11 pm
Wow, not only do Alice and Alan know each other, they also speak the same dialect and make the same insults and Alice still reckons she went to the same made up university.
Carry on.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:11 pm
Dot
I cant see that anythibg I have said has led you to produce the numbers you produced. Where did I say I graduated in the 80s Dot. Where did I say it was from a class of 3000 in the 80s. Reproduce the evidence and post it.
For an economist you are very sloppy with the data. Thats a real worry Dot Boy.
I dont think you have much respect for facts either which makes you either
a) a lousy scientist
b) libertarian where anything goes and you make up your own reality
c) very very inexperienced
My instinct about you Dot lead me to C).
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:12 pm
So that explains it…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:12 pm
Thinking Kae has a history..lol
max49
2 Nov 12 at 11:12 pm
Give her dodgyness-in-chief the mute button treatment. When will they invent portable mute button control thingys? Is there an app?
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:14 pm
Alice
You have said it here and on Quiggin’s. I am sure others will back me up.
You are a fuckwit with a made up career. Piss off.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:16 pm
Paw-paw ointment and pedicures are not worthy of a decent late night discussion, unless you are on Mia Freedman’s blog.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 11:17 pm
Just in middle of watching latest Red Dwarf episode (it’s back with a new season, btw), and this made me think of the theme tune, “Goldfish shoals, nibbling at my toes”
Fleeced
2 Nov 12 at 11:17 pm
ever gonna happen, candy. Sounds like New Age, pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo anyway, but even if it isn’t, it’s never gonna happen.
Some honey types have good anti-bacterial qualities and the melittin may also be anti-inflammatory. Paw Paw is odd, long time ago now there was some interest in it for treating some cancers. Don’t know if that was carried through. There are some people who claim that by receiving multiple bee stings it has remarkably reduced their multiple sclerosis systems. Last I heard there is a clinical trial being conducted on this. MS is classified as a inflammatory mediated autoimmune disorder so just perhaps but I doubt it.
Wish those Russians would hurry up with bacteriophage research though, these are very promising ways to treat bacterial infections because they attack bacteria only as a virus. But of course being a natural compound you can’t patent it so it won’t be targeted in the West.
That is inhibits NFkB(don’t ask) is significant because there are currently drugs under development to target this key transcription factor. Not a good idea in my opinion, another wasted research avenue but hey they can make bucks out of it. Not over the long term, only for acute treatments.
http://www.melittin.net/melittin-resources/anti-inflammatory.html
Dead Soul
2 Nov 12 at 11:17 pm
Rev. Spooner phoned, wanted Steve’s number.
C.L.
2 Nov 12 at 11:19 pm
Bet Burt didn’t. Bet Rock did.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:19 pm
Dot says
”
Wow, not only do Alice and Alan know each other, they also speak the same dialect”
Gee Alan – I dont actualluy know you and i dont actually think I even read your posts yet but nice to meet you.
Welcome to Dot’s world view. Apparently you and me are part of the same story in Dot’s mind.
Thats a definite worry. Dot doesnt think straight and my bet is he was always in trouble for lying as a kid.
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:20 pm
Henri, le chat noir, on Halloween. On dieu! says Henri.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:20 pm
Seems we have to live with da current discussion, Joh.
Time to force a change in the subject.
Stay tuned…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:21 pm
Emma Alberici had a former Republican campaign manager on Lateline.
She obviously knows Romney was ahead significantly on Gallup as she mentioned it.
All Craig McMurtrie the leftist idiot had said as usual is that BO seems bound for victory.
The Republican accurately punctured all the leftist memes including Nate Silver.
He swatted all Emma’s false hopes including Bloomberg endorsement, The effect of Obma wonderful management of the Supoerstorm, Brown is gonna lose in MA, the other loser Repo’s like Akin and Mourdoch etc etc
Still an alternate view was aired on ‘their’ ABC.
I suspect even da ABC realises The One is about to crash and burn
JamesK
2 Nov 12 at 11:21 pm
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:22 pm
So Alice do you admit then by omission that you are phil?
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:24 pm
Dot says
“You are a fuckwit with a made up career. Piss off.”
I dont tell lies unlike you. Jealousy is a curse.
The real facts are Dot that you are the fuckwit who hasnt even had a career.
You piss off you rude obnoxious little kid.
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:25 pm
No, you are lying about me as well, Alice.
You said you graduated in 11th place from a class of 3000 and that you worked and studied full time in a Sydney university in the 1980s.
This is obviously bullshit.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:27 pm
Did you know Rock was, back in the day? My mother told me she always thought he was a bit off-putting, though nice to look at.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 11:27 pm
Well, that is something I have been struggling with for some time now. You have a very creative approach to the Taxation Department, Lizzie, admonishes HIA in his professional mode of probity and discernment as he demolishes my list of deductions.
This Department seems to be currently in a state of confusion, up, down, then round about, as Swannie tries to extract every ounce of gold and glitter from a public feeling very after the party. Bin talkin’ to some tax type folks while in Sin City.
All went well, Gab, but flat out busy and drove more than 500 k’s. Hit Maccas twice. Spent a motza. Don’t ask. Back to dance and sing till midnight with Da Hairy Ape, and so to bed. Off to have a bath now, so sweet dreams all.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 11:28 pm
If you haven’t seen it, Henri’s Halloween ennui is funny.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:28 pm
Gab,
Henri est une fraude
même pas noir
Merde…
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:30 pm
We can only hope, Dover, both that they realise, and that it actually happens.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
2 Nov 12 at 11:31 pm
No wonder Henri’s bored and depressed then, rabz.
Gosh, imagine how much kitty litter you’d need for that big black cat!
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:32 pm
How does somone admit by ommission Dot?
What a baby. Thats a non sequiteur but your arguments are full of them.
For a phd student your arguments are crap, Not any sign of an academic in them. Where did you say you where doing that phd again Dot?
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:33 pm
US non-farm payrolls up 171,000 and rate up to 7.9%. Plus some upward revisions to previous months’ job growth numbers. Good news for Obama.
Sleetmute
2 Nov 12 at 11:34 pm
Dot is a friend of ours, Alice. Piss off, you obnoxious drunk.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:34 pm
Just wait ’til he has to front the ICAC hearings!
What an outrage.
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:35 pm
Again you lie Alice
These are your claims:
You said you graduated in 11th place from a class of 3000 and that you worked and studied full time in a Sydney university in the 1980s.
This is obviously bullshit. No university in Australia had final year enrolments at this level for one entire faculty even up to the mid 1990s.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:37 pm
…and certainly NOT for commerce.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:38 pm
Lizzie, welcome back, but that was JamesK. And, yes, JamesK, did you notice by the end how exasperated he’d become with her inane questions? I missed his response to Nate Silver. I’ll pick it up from the web in the morning.
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 11:38 pm
Bad numbers. Failed recovery.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 11:41 pm
Dot says
“This is obviously bullshit.”
Define the meaning of the word obvious Dot.
Here you are again scratching at the sides of a boat that is sinking…
Dear Dotty, you dont make a good econ phd student to me. You dont sound like one, you dont argue like one. In short you couldnt argue / debate your way out of a wet paper bag and most arguments you attempt end up wit you exploding..
“piss of. Thats bullshit. Its obvious it s bullshit”
Hardly a phd econ sudent are you Dot?
Very sophosticated indeed (not).
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:43 pm
U.S. data points to slow healing in labour market
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:44 pm
Yeah IT. The FT says the previous good unemployment numbers were a sampling error.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:44 pm
How will this effect the odds, IT? Should I place my bet now or can I wait till the morning?
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 11:45 pm
Bullshit? I get them all the time in Asia. Very ticklish!
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 11:47 pm
You are lying Alice.
I have totally destroyed your made up career, which you made up to try to beat me into submission by an argument from authority after you tried to cuss me into submission after your fuckwitted, loopy ideas were trashed.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:47 pm
Still $3.92 for Mitt on Centrebet.
CNN and the rest of the MSM are spinning the numbers as good news with some absolute BS reasoning.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 11:49 pm
Daily Caller: New book publishes little-seen essays by Milton Friedman
JamesK
2 Nov 12 at 11:49 pm
Centrebet has moved from 3.75 (this afternoon) to 4.00 for Mitt.
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:50 pm
Sorry – I meant Sportsbet
Gab
2 Nov 12 at 11:50 pm
No matter how you look at it those are great odds. I had to get some.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 11:51 pm
Sportsbet are offering $4 on Romney! Madness
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 11:51 pm
Dot when did I say I graduated in the 1980s?
The facts are I didnt ever say that because I dodnt graduated in the 1980s.
WEcept Dot I did graduate 11th out of threethousand students with a distinction average. How about a bet Dot?
Put yoir money where your mouth is Put a bet down child.
Jeaoulosuy is a curse, Especially from a poor econ phd student who hasnt got marks like I got and who wasnt working full time when he got them and who relies on someone else to get his phd of rhis uni (liek I didnt).
Dot is jealous. I feel sorry for you too Dot, You have not fought for your living so the rewards come cheaop and you dont work so hard.
I know your type. I teach them every semester., The ones with cushion under their bums are lazier. Thats the way it is.
What are you doing at uni Dot except wasting time?
With your affressive nature you should be out working in the private sector.
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:52 pm
Snap! Well done, Gab.
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 11:52 pm
Exactly, this is a 2 horse race that is close to 50/50. Then again, it is a warning about how few people look beyond the crap peddled by the lefty media.
Token
2 Nov 12 at 11:53 pm
Christ. I took evens with monty.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:53 pm
I’d say the odds on Alice having drunk peppermint essence are quite low.
Infidel Tiger
2 Nov 12 at 11:54 pm
Go for it, Squire – I put my $500 on at $3.75 – $400 for me and $100 for a skeptical mate.
We, like Mittens, will win.
Onwards to Victory!
Rabz
2 Nov 12 at 11:54 pm
First thing in the morning Rabz, $400. I’m going to be pale for the next five days, and if you’ve meet me, you’d know that is quite a feat.
dover_beach
2 Nov 12 at 11:57 pm
As mentioned way above, IMO the only honest NSW government in living memory (and well before) was Nick Greiner’s. His eminence grise (sorry, don’t know how to do the squiggles) was Gary Sturgess, head of the Cabinet Office, creator of ICAC – and a devout Mormon.
Having been around at the time, I can attest that it was a golden era of economic and government reform – with zero tolerance for shonk or sleaze.
I don’t care if Sturgess or Romney wear funny underwear – a good Mormon is a highly ethical being.
johanna
2 Nov 12 at 11:57 pm
Dot dream on..
You honetsly think some lying twenty pkus tear old in Sinclairs blofg is really capable of destroying the made of career of a 50 plus year old.
You stupid boy.
I was living and working my career when you were till in nappies. Are you jealous because Ive been teaching at uni for years?
is that is?
Im sorry the unis wont offer you any permamency without a phd these days. Im sorry they wont support your career or fund yoir studies.
You are the new indentured slave in unis – phd students.
It wasnt always like that Dot but it is now.
Except you arent even a phd econ student are you Dot?
Its you that is lying.
Alice
2 Nov 12 at 11:58 pm
I think tab.com.au will wind it out during Saturday from $3.75 to $4.00. I’m doubling up earlier bet Sat a.m. when local market has been adjusted.
Tom
2 Nov 12 at 11:58 pm
No, you didn’t.
No Australian university has ever had a graduating class of 3000 commerce students.
About 1700 is possible but implausible.
You are full of shit, Alice. Go to an AA meeting.
.
2 Nov 12 at 11:58 pm
Good lord.
sdog
3 Nov 12 at 12:01 am
Are we sure this isn’t MagroK?
sdog
3 Nov 12 at 12:02 am
Proof that Alice is full of shit
http://sydney.edu.au/staff/planning/statistics/completions/compl_facs.php?cmplref=f6
.
3 Nov 12 at 12:04 am
If it fails it’s $8 a week for the next 50 weeks. 2 coffees. And if it succeeds you will have a nice wad of a cash and a big fuck you to rub in lefty faces!
Infidel Tiger
3 Nov 12 at 12:04 am
Damn… I bet when it was lower… Might place another bet tomorrow.
Fleeced
3 Nov 12 at 12:04 am
I thought my typing was bad. I remember you guys mentioning someone who used to visit the Cat who had a problem with typing…
…alternately, it could be the goonbag going to her head.