Revelations about the Prime Minister’s previous career as a lawyer get ever more salty.
Today’s piece in the Australian by Hedley Thomas and Pia Akerman suggests a $5000 cash payment into an account of Ms Gillard by union employee Wayne Hem. The money is said to have been deposited under instructions from Ms Gillard’s former boyfriend Bruce Wilson.
Ms Gillard had provided legal advice in 1992 that helped Mr Wilson and his union ally, Ralph Blewitt, set up a slush fund – the AWU Workplace Reform Association – which the two men used in the ensuing years to issue bogus invoices and fraudulently receive hundreds of thousands of dollars.
This is especially interesting since if money was deposited in a bank account there is a paper trial and as there was some apparently diarised documentation about it a year later by Mr Cambridge who was joint Secretary of the Australian Workers Union. Mr Cambridge swore an affidavit in 1996 which said he could not understand how the AWU’s lawyers, Slater & Gordon, could allow money “obviously taken from the union, in the purchase of private property (a terrace house) … without seeking and obtaining proper authority from the union … and without recording the interest of the union on the title”.
The June 7, 1996, diary entry by Mr Cambridge states: “During the course of the conversation with Wayne Hem he told me about an event that took place in about July last year (1995)”. If all this is true, the kindest explanation for Ms Gillard is that it was an under-the-counter payment for the services she rendered her boyfriend in establishing the the AWU Workplace Reform Association. In that case she was merely cheating on her employer, Slater and Gordon. Alternative explanations dig more deeply into the character of the Prime Minister
Mr Cambridge said his position as a member of a quasi-judicial tribunal made it inappropriate “to now offer any public comment about these issues”.
A government’s control of patronage – in this case the kangaroo court, “Fair Work Australia”, provides massive capabilities to reward the loyal and silence those who have material that could embarrass and even bring down the party in power. All governments exercise such opportunities but Labor seems to do so more spectacularly, rigorously and consistently than the Coalition.
[Update: I have modified parts of the post and added in some links. Sinc]
So what’s the story here? Man Gives Girlfriend Money? Solicitor Gets Paid? I don’t see anything new.
The police would have had access to Gillard’s bank account records including this transaction, and they did nothing. This is still a non-story.
By all means keep pursuing it though, it’s doing great things for Gillard’s poll numbers. Also, please get Abbott to keep hammering it, maybe he can reach down to Nelson’s level.
‘paper trial’ should read ‘paper trail’. Or then again, maybe you were right the first time…
Haha. Look at Monty. Weak as piss.
Haha, look at Abbott’s poll numbers. Weak as Turnbull.
You should adjust this post ASAP. There’s never been any suggestion Gillard assisted in the management of the fund’s bank account.
[Yes. Thank you. Sinc]
Nice to see this little piece didn’t include something along the lines of:
Time to drop that pretence, it seems.
Oh and mUttley –
Care to remind us what the ‘payment’ was for?
No, I didn’t think so.
Oh I totally agree Minty. If only that nice Turnbull was leader, I might change my vote from liberal to labor.
Love your work, tubs.
It is as desperate as his comic defense predicting Slipper would not fall over those disgusting mysogynistic texts that Gillard, the ALP, the Greens & the Independents endorse.
You’re missing the point, guys, which is that TONY ABBOTT IS A CATHOLIC!!!!!!
Monty, payments to a solicitor tend to be recorded in their costs journals. This is to prevent a partner in a firm from cheating their co-partners by underreporting their income.
Again, if this was payment for legal services, it goes to character.
If it was not payment for legal services, I want to know what the $5k in cash was for.
LOL, anyone who claims the money was lawyers fees is alleging another wrong by Gillard. The force of that claim is that either: she was practicing on the side and contrary to her practicing certificate, or she was privately paid for work done by the firm.
The real question is how do we blame this on Tony Abbott?
Alan
Can you advise where the quotation from Mr Cambridge stops and the comment from you (or someone else) starts in this paragraph.
The June 7, 1996, diary entry by Mr Cambridge states: “During the course of the conversation with Wayne Hem he told me about an event that took place in about July last year (1995). If all this is true, the kindest explanation for Ms Gillard is that it was an under-the-counter payment for the services she rendered her boyfriend in establishing the fraudulent bank account. In that case she was merely cheating on her employer, Slater and Gordon. Alternative explanations dig more deeply into the character of the Prime Minister
$5000 back then is worth about $8000 now.
No. She is going to gaol.
Well she did fly all the way over the Perth and speak in support of the widow’s fund transfer, so maybe Monty has a point ….
Julia is a practicing fabian welfare statist at best, at worst a closet marxist…..so she naturally expects other people’s money to be handed to her, it’s a human right.
Has anyone here given their girlfriend or paid their lawyer with a brown paper bag full of cash?
And it won’t be designated lawyers fees because London to a brick it was not declared to the ATO.
“So what’s the story here? Man Gives Girlfriend Money? Solicitor Gets Paid? I don’t see anything new.”
Check the date of the payment, Monty. It’s 1996. This is after Gillard says she terminated the relationship with Wilson.
No response from any of you to this point, of course.
And no response to this either.
Pedro is correct BTW Alan, you are potentially defaming Gillard by including that bit about the “fraudulent bank account”.
Didn’t she say she had handwritten receipts for all the building work at her home?
What could this money be for?
Dot , you need to send your comment to EVERY newspaper and TV station everywhere, as lead question to the news, and for parliamentrary question time from mow until the election.
$5000 in cash in a brown paper bag.
I well remember the Fitzgerald royal commission and it’s brown paper bags. I haven’t heard of the little #$#@^ ards since then.
This is the question to which Gillard has no innocent answer.
There are any amount of explanations for the provenance and fate of this foldey gear.
There was no bag and it wasn’t brown and it wasn’t made of paper.
If there was a bag and it was made of paper and it was brown there was no money in it.
If there was money in it, then it may have been:
The last distribution of the Fruits of the Fine Cotton Plunge;
Proceeds of a raffle to help Kalgoorlie miner’s widows;
The unclaimed prize of a raffle to help Kalgoorlie miner’s widows;
Change from the bulk purchase of hi viz safety jackets for WA construction workers;
Just found it when we were renovating Norm Gallagher’s old beach house and as Julia was an Officer of the Court, Partner of A Law Firm and swore to do some stuff and not do other stuff on a bible in front of a hatful of Supreme Court Judges who better to give it to until it’s rightful owner could be established?
Ower Julia left it in a fitting room at Town Mode (along with a pair of soiled uees) and we thought if we gave it back to her she might spend a bit more on shoes.
We were just saving up to buy a farm at some place called The Bylong Valley in NSW to grow organic vegetables, milk a goat and home school the kids. Maybe one day someone will put some coal under it and then we can make a mine. However one does that.
Who’s Ian Cambridge?
In the alternative, you are accusing Gillard of tax evasion.
Yeah, I get random $5000 deposits paid into my bank account frequently. Happens all the time. It’s certainly not because I’m assisting corruption. No, siree!
As for Gillard’s poll numbers, she’s still trailling in every poll I can see, and that’s before the police have even interviewed Ralph Blewitt.
Talking about Brown Paper Bags.
The script for the Carr/Iemma/Rees version of Underbelly Sussex Street continues to be fleshed out:
The Federal Parliamentary Liberal, National and Liberal National Parties need to grow some balls and ask the questions ASAP. This barely gets a run in Parliament.
You’re right, Monty, fuck right and wrong, all that matters is the poll numbers! Moron.
Won’t make a difference to the polling figures. there’s half of Australia stuck to the Alliance for one reason or another. J. Gillard could be in jail and they’d still vote for the Alliance. Labor has polarised Australia.
“The police would have had access to Gillard’s bank account records including this transaction, and they did nothing. This is still a non-story.
No response from any of you to this point, of course.”
They stopped pursuing the affair when Thiess would not pursue charges. Whether they got are far as checking her bank account, who knows, but they whole “stopped investigating” thingy is all somewhat smelly.
There. Happy now?
When do we get Underbelly: Red-headed Trollop?
Wow, that’s pissweak. The guy who worked in Theiss looks like he was complicit in any wrongdoing. The Government of Western Australia was ripped off. Who was the Premier at the time?
Of course Thiess didn’t want the matter followed up.
Thiess had received public money from the WA government money and failed to ensure it was spent on purpose it was given.
It would be interesting to see the T&C’s on the grant from the WA gov. I’m sure there was a requirement to ensure the money was used for the purpose set out.
Corruption is corruption and Thiess should be in trouble for allow itself to be the vessel to funnel money. As I understand it, if this occured in the US they would be in a lot of trouble.
Gillar resigned from Slater and Gordon (HT Bolt) in May 1995. Hem needs to be sure of his dates. That makes things simpler for the general public- i.e. no connection with any conveancing at S$G- as if.
If I understand the chronology – Carmen Lawrence (12 February 1990 to 16 February 1993)
The head of Theiss in WA was Bruce Wilson’s brother-in-law. Who says the left doesn’t respect family values?
Nah. Read it again 2dogs. The deposit was made in July 1995.
Token, I’m shocked, shocked that it was another Emily’s List member.
If Theiss had pursued it they would have painted a bullseye on themselves for Heavy Kevvie, Fat Joe and the other dribblers from CFMEU WA.
De Jure Theiss has a legal duty to its shareholder as custodians of their money and none to the CFMEU.
De Facto Theiss would be crazy to take their duty to shareholders more seriously than their need to yield to the whims of the horse punching thugs of the CFMEU.
This might, in conjuction with an enormous amount of other evidence, lead to an allegation that may require investigation.
Since when did newspapers however start publishing material without any allegations to answer?
Given that the Australian is too well-heeled to worry about defamation, they’ll go on fishing.
This story is a ‘birther’.
Crapula, what you wrote at 10:07am is wrong and defamatory:
If you read the piece in The Australian it addresses your point:
Do you have the character to withdraw your comment?
Absolutely true Token.
The point is that up until the early 2000′s paying for industrial harmony was quite common. If they blew the whistle on AWU then the other unions enjoying the largess of Theiss would have targetted them.
I’m not saying that it is right, and yes, they have failed in their duties to their shareholders. That is how things used to operate, especially in WA & Vic.
James in Melbourne 14 Nov 12 at 8:45 am. What is your argument? Kevin Rudd was raised as a Catholic. Your insinuation is insulting to Kevin Rudd and other Labor Party Catholics.
The AWU affair is Gillards Achilles Heal, if she will not make a full statement in Parliament, what are the people of her own electorate (Lalor) going to think? Or will they asking themselves, are we going to elect a dishonest Prime Minister?
Whoops, someone forgot to log out of the candy sockpuppet account.
If you were in charge during the Nixon administration, “Watergate” would still be just another DC hotel.
Then again, we wouldn’t be appending “-gate” to every single scandal, so there’d be that, anyway.
Mt Isa Miner: Gillard’s exit interview was in September, 1995, not May. She was gone by October of that year, having told Peter Gordon that she had broken off the affair with Wilson, who was back in WA, and was no longer in contact with him.
Another lie, it would seem.
She’s a lying immoral fraudster, Monty.
Remember this was just before the S&G exit interview.
directed towards me… The account is for $3780. I’ve paid $2000 of it already and I’m making arrangements to get the $1780 together to pay the rest of it.
Is this to pay for the invoices “accidentally” sent to AWU [that caused the whole scam to unravel]…?
As a partner in a lawfirm, I find it difficult that JEG would have trouble getting a couple of grand togther to pay for [expected] renovation work being done.
Here’s a likely story – AWU came to her questioning the invoices, and she had to pay for it out of her own account. And hence the paper bag deposit… [further covered by the story that BruceW "won" it at the casino]
Questions are not allegations and the way I read the Australian is that no allegations were put to her.
Why should anyone answer questions about their finances unless there is some specific accusation of illegality?
Harsh but fair.
Did Gillard declare that $5000 to the ATO, and if not, why not?
Crapula, you are very, very, very, very dumb. Off you go, back to Mogadishu.
My argument, Muphin, is that while ostensibly the Royal Commission into Child Abuse can be portrayed by Gillard and her henchturd as the “right thing to do,” the concomitant smearing-by-association of Tony Abbott was worked out in advance, with the full (yet indirect) building of that case to proceed in conjunction with the Royal Commission.
The only thing that could derail this plan of Abbott and the henchturd is if the Royal Commission goes off-reservation and widens its brief into other institutions with sorry histories re child abuse, such as the ALP, and others whose names cannot be mentioned, but which are preying on young children as we speak, in outback communities; or happily mutilating their daughters in line with the freedoms granted them under multi-culturalism.
If it was payment for services provided as a lawyer, did she declare it to the ATO as income? Did she pay tax on it?
I mean “this plan of Gillard and the henchturd,” of course.
Excellent Pickering cartoon this morning
I’m off to Benghazi where freedom reigns down from the sky like bullets and mortar shells.
Someone adjust Scrappy’s medication, please.
Yes, I’m going on the ‘birther’ pills highly recommended by Kenyans as we write.
Let’s not forget that back in those days, some were not unfamiliar with
greasing the wheels of progressphilanthropy.*cough Sir Les, Sir Joh cough*
Yes, and as you’d say, that nice Mr Abbott looks so good in a suit, doesn’t he candy?
LOL Monty deploys the old ABbottAbbottAbbott attack in relation to an issue to do with gillard. Standard Labor tactic.
Is this the correct time line?
Payment of $5000 into JG’s bank account was July 1995.
Invoices for renovations were June 1995.
JG’s exit interview was Sept 1995.
JG and BW split up sometime between July and Sept 1995.
Perhaps the $5000 was a payment from Wilson to Gillard after they split up, to help her out, or as part of splitting some minor property. When did they split up exactly?
I am a bit suspicious of the questioning of Gillard over the use of AWU money to pay for her house renovations, particularly when viewing the time line. Interesting that S&G also named the slush fund during that questioning.
You’re missing the point, guys, which is that TONY ABBOTT IS A CATHOLIC!!!!!!
ABC24 this morning was busily mentioning that of course Tony Abbott was a seminarian who trained as a priest. Nudge nudge wink wink.
ABC24 this morning was busily mentioning that of course Tony Abbott was a seminarian who trained as a priest. Nudge nudge wink wink.
“Yes, and as you’d say, that nice Mr Abbott looks so good in a suit, doesn’t he candy?”
He’s very nice looking in a suit (very fit and well put together), but he’s not doing well in the polls, just as you say, Monty. Can’t be denied, and it’s troubling for the Coalition.
Invoices for renovations were [accidentally sent to AWU] June 1995.
Payment of $5000 into JG’s bank account was July 1995.
Scam unravells
JG’s exit interview was Sept 1995.
A lawyer sacked by her firm who receives secret cash payments from a criminal.
Monty – avoiding the bath for another manic 24 hours of spin:
When did an envelope become a ‘paper bag’?:
“This event involved Bruce Wilson handing Wayne an envelope which contained approximately $5000 in $100 and $50 notes and Wilson instructed Hem to deposit this $5000 into a personal account of Julia Gillard.
Its also not known what kind of account he placed the money in:
“I didn’t know if it was for Julia or if the account was a private account or a Slater & Gordon account.
“It just had Julia Gillard’s name on it and I put it in the bank account.”
So there is no paper bag and no account number.
People, tread carefully as Scrappy has found the bold button and he’s not afraid to use it.
Ok scrappy it was an envelope not a brown paper bag.
So that makes it ok then.
Straws, you’re clutching at them.
An envelope is technically a paper bag. No press conference required. Yet
Paper bags full of money have become synonymous with corruption.
Envelopes are just envelopes.
Envelopes full of money are just like a paper bag – only neater.
Bob. You and Monty are the funniest things going these days.
Thats just racism pure ans simple- just because the envelope’s white doesn’t make it eny less corrupt!
I say $5000 cash is dodgy even if it comes in a BArbie purse !
Envelopes are flat, rectangular paper bags.
That’s a very thick envelope.
If an AO sized envelope full of money is just an envelope.
Is a gunny sack full of cash just chicken feed?
LOL Scrappy tries to derail the thread by focusing on minutia. What the cash was delivered in is of no consequence. Where the cash came from and to whom it was delivered is the important bit.
Was it a manilla envelope or was it white bond? I think this is the issue we need to be focusing on.
#scrappytalk
Next up, Scappy tells us the gsm is forensically important in determining the difference between a paper bag and paper envelope.
Scaps…
“money back then was just made of paper.. Gillard was handed a wad of paper, so what?”
Is that a real hash tag? I feel some twitter parody coming up.
Plus the timeline of events.
What was the date on and the amount of the hand written invoices renovations on JEG house? Upon what date did
Town Modethe builder get the payment?Have these documents been released?
Nice people use envelopes. Riff Raff use brown paper bags. That’s why the stationer thinks nothing of me picking up a box of envelopes, but gives me a knowing wink when I ask for a bag of brown paper bags.
She also looks funny when I ask for those tiny zip lock plastic bags. When she asked what I want them for I told her “very very small sandwiches”. I think I got away with it.
And water balloons at the supermarket… very dodgy
aaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha – now THAT is comedy.
What is almost as bad as Gillard’s behaviour has been the commentariat trying to pass this whole thing off as a plot by Murdoch and the Tories to slime Gillard.
To me, it stands out like the proverbial dogs bollocks that the source(s) for the story are from deep within the Labor Party trying to settle some very old scores and/or believe that the only hope of avoiding decimation at the next election is with a leader other than Gillard.
This has been a deliberate campaign with a timely drip feeding of clues and hints designed to consistently upset any momentum that the Lying Slapper may be building.
It can not be coincidental that Gillard hastily convened a presser to announce her ill conceived RC within a couple of hours of the OZ putting the latest lot of allegations to her office.
As someone stated on the RC thread yesterday, “Look over there, it’s a unicorn!”
Since Ms Gillard was an experienced lawyer having huge amounts of cash deposited in her account in that casual manner from a man who won it at a casino must have been concerning.
Not even a cheque or anything.
T’was Rudd backer McClelland who made a statement in the parliament that started this latest process in June.
Yet still young and naive…
Mc Clelland. Your next ALP PM with Kathy Jackson as Treasurer and DPM.
If someone could help me with an excuse for buying plasticine that would help. I don’t think the truth (me bong’s leaking like a bastard) will cut it.
“Envelopes are flat, rectangular paper bags.
C.L.
14 Nov 12 at 11:13 am”
With stickiness!
I would have noticed $5K deposited in my account.
Bunyip’s theory about the money is interesting.
A hessian bag would have been more appropriate for Dullard.
Interesting that a private diary found its way into the office of The Australian.
Why hasn’t Cambridge reported this to police?
Drip …. drip…….drip…….
The main concern of the press corps today will be whether Tony Abbott uses the same sort of envelopes.
Bunyip has an excellent take on this matter, with predictions that come true.
http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/thats-his-girl.html
BOAB, this does raise questions about the role Tony Abbott is playing.
I hope the stripes are vertical on Gillard’s prison issued dungarees.
Plenty more where that came from
Michael Smith’s view on the new information:
He also notes that the final sitting week of parliament for 2012 starting 26 Nov is going to be intense (as this is the last date caucus is together before Feb 2013).
Logically this is the last week that Rudd can move her. It sounds like it is going to be hard for McTiernan to crowd out all the tactical document drops in the coming days.
I like the bit Bunyip wrote about michelle Grattan “setting aside her ear trumpet” …
If I was him, I would be putting it all into the biggest clusterbomb in the room – the Abbott=Catholic=Abuser – trying to keep that squarely on page 1 for the next couple of months.
Why, I’d even call such an attack ‘relentlessly negative’.
Of course Pickles – i belive that you are hosting an introductory class in puppetry and that by using plasticine the participants are able to visually conceptualise the inherent nature and political empathy there puppets will take.
The plasticine is a medium that allows the participants to ‘road test’ their work prior to its conception as an artistic creation to provide a gentle introduction to the body politic and the many methodds that activists may influence the public discourse by theatre.
How did i go?
He’d just be following the Facebook, blogs and Twitter campaign that has been around since Abbott was made Opposition leader. He’s been called a paed0phile becuase of his religion; he’s been called a misogynist long before gillard made it the crux of her next election campaign platform; he’s been called homophobic and sexist relentlessly.
labor’s latest is to call him a “douchebag” and a “bullshitter”.
McTernan has a lot of competition.
Not a peep from ABC radio. Checked the website which repeatedly informed that Abbott is a catholic and the Catholic Church is so awful it requires a Royal Commission into it’s misbehaviour.
Cash in a brown paper bag? LOL this scandal gets better and better. I wonder how Gillard will look in her prison greens and Dunlop Volleys.
Thanks Carp. Interspersed with a bit of giggling I’ll give it a run. She’ll probably just give me a tube of silastic like she did last time, then complain about her garden hose getting six inches shorter every few weeks or so.
Go into your big sisters room, the Rolling Stones posters are attached by blue tac. You can carefully remove half of the blue tac and the posters stay stuck anyway, and your sister wont know youve been in her room. Its better than plasticine is blue tac.
The people who campaigned hard to lure people to take treacherous journies via boat (and did everything they could to ignore/cover up the 1,000 or so deaths) are too busy as they’ve finally had their sectarian jihad against the Catholic Church legimised.
That’s a grand plan. But I haven’t got a big sister.
My sister-in-law is available, and she is hot (not as hot as Lady Jugs) but you would have to commit to help with her house renovation.
Abbott needs to get on the front foot on this, a general royal commission into Unions, propose new regulation for unions to make them competitive and regulated like public companies.
This way Gillards “Misogyny” attacks and the latest go at Abbot via the Catholic church look reactive and all the more grubby.
You’re not wrong Token. PM yesterday spent easy 30 mins on the Royal Commission and today its wall to wall coverage. They even found a Priest or two who don’t like the sanctity of the confessional, can’t be too many of them about.
Pickles: tape it up mate or buy another orchy and be more careful cutting the hole.
You’re not wrong Token. PM yesterday spent easy 30 mins on the Royal Commission and today its wall to wall coverage. They even found a Priest or two who don’t like the sanctity of the confessional, can’t be too many of them about.
Pickles: tape it up mate or buy another orchy and be more careful cutting the hole.
So, how do you know it wasn’t a case of Wilson on the phone to Julia – “I had a big win at the casino last night. I’m sorry about all the trouble with the reno – I’ll get $5000 into your account and that’ll square it all away.”?
This would not, as far as I can tell, be inconsistent with her past statements.
If Julia simply says “I repeat – I did not knowingly benefit from money from the fund”, and Wilson does not contradict her, you got nothin’.
You’re a dumb c@@t, Shitfer, but you’re a loyal dumb c@@t.
Speaking of the Royal Commission, it’s looking more and more appalling how Slater & Gordon moved Gillard on to a new location.
There was that odd statement of “personal” offense re abortion too. Mmm.
Nice try SfB.
Brown. Paper. Bag.
Definitely legit.
Another question: doesn’t the fact that Wilson had Gillard’s bank account number suggest there were other, earlier pay-offs?
Was the brown paper bag biodegradable?
“Hello Julia. It’s just cash I got from the casino last night. What’s your account number and I’ll get someone to deposit it for you?”
“I won it at the races, Your Honour.”
- Robert Trimbole.
Another question: doesn’t the fact that Wilson had Gillard’s bank account number suggest there were other, earlier pay-offs?
She knew it was coming?
I like the theory that the invoice hit the AWU and everything started blowing up so he said “Jules I’ll sling you 5 grand so you can pay it and it will all go away.” So she’d know it was coming.
If that’s the case it seems likely the previous work had been paid by the BF.
Big Red had absolutely no way of knowing that $5000 had been deposited into her account. None whatsoever, Your Honour.
“Oh yes, Julia as this is so legitimate we both know you will remember to keep good documentary evidence so no-one would think anything of this.”
Why would he say that if he had already said it was some of the money he’d won last night?
“Yes, yes, I knww you are a partner at a law firm and you know to maintain the required standard, like you did in that little matter you wrote that letter for me to the WA government.”
It is as plausable as your bit of creative writing.
Token, if it a private payment from a boyfriend to his partner, there is no reason for it to be documented.
Did you used to get notarised IOU’s from your girlfriends if they said they’d go halves in something, but found they didn’t have the money in the purse they thought they did?
Mark latham called, SFB, says you’re doing a sterling job.
More like it was “Oh yeah, yeah, Julia, I had a big win at the casino last night *wink* *wink*”.
According to Gillard’s version of events at some point she found out that Wilson had been lying to her and engaged in rampant fraud right under her (not-insubstantial) nose. In that circumstance why on earth would Julia believe he’d won the money at a casino when a grimier provenance is the more likely? And even if he did win it, what was the source of the money he was betting with?
I don’t know the timing and what she knew at this point, but surely afterwards she must have had grave doubts about the source of that money. And yet, unless it’s in the redacted parts of the transcript, she made no mention of it when questioned about the possibility of her benefiting from the AWUWRA.
I won that 5 ton at the dishlickers yer honer. Which meeting? Dapto. What race? Fifteen. Which dog? Thirteen. His name was Paleface Adios. Oliver rode it. I think the bookie was Waterhouse.
SoB, when $5k hits my bank account as a lump. I leave a document trail no matter who gives it to me.
One of my siblings worked for one of the Big 4 in Bus Banking in ’95 so I know that even then the tax office did traces for bit lumps hitting accounts.
Now a young and naive partner at a law firm involved in industrial matters would know that…
“I’ve got $5k I won at the races. It’s all there, $10s and $20s. Have no idea what to do with it…I know, deposit it into Big Red’s bank account for safe keeping”.
I swear to god reading comprehension FAIL by Oakes, et-al.
The whole casino line of spin is borne out of the failure to comprehend what was a joke made by “Bill the Greek”:
None of the story has anything at all to do with a Casino. The spin that it was “winnings” is either displays incomprehensible window licking stupidity or mendacious duplicity.
Here’s the reality:
Gillard : Partner in a law firm whose major client was the AWU.
Wilson: Head of an AWU branch.
Wilson while at work, in his official capacity hands an underling a big fat pile of cash and tells him to deposit it into the personal bank account of a solicitor at the law firm who represents the Union, who just happens to quietly also be his girlfriend.
Shortly there-after it becomes public knowledge that he has embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars with great helpings of allegedly “unknowing” help from said solicitor and girlfriend.
Press Gallery and ALP lickspittles response? “Non story” “perhaps it was just casino winnings der-hur hur”, etc.
An ALP hack and long time political enemy of Tony Abbott suddenly “remembers” that he once punched a wall near her 30+ years ago.
Evidence? No.
Eye witnesses? No.
Statutory Declarations? No.
Two weeks on the front page.
Any bloke knows the first rule of the punt is never tell the missus when you win. You always break even. Never win or lose.
Well, except for the part of the story in The Australian that reads:
Keep working away, Inspector Clueless.
If they don’t know that the first rule of the knock shop is never use the Visa, then the rules of the punt are way too hard for them.
Come on, Dogshit. On your knees and beg and whimper: “Please don’t pick on Juwwiar, you meanies. She’s all I’ve got in my lonewwy empty wwife.”
Childish, Tom.
Shut up Steve and respond to twostix. He has you hammered.
Hem says he was asked to do the deposit the day after Wilson had been to the casino.
Bill the Greek’s comment sounds as if he had been there with Wilson.
This is a matter of plain ability to comprehend statements, instead of thinking you can “see through” everything to the secret meaning underneath.
Im sure theres an innocent explanation.
Maybe it was to cover her expenses when she went over to WA to convince the Miners to give up their burial fund to Wilsons slush fund.
Isnt that a story in itself?
She knew it was a slush fund. She said that herself.
The miners were wary of signing over money from the burial fund. Fact
Julia came to WA to allay the fears of the miners the money would be misused. Fact
The money then went into the fund which Julia herself says was a slush fund (she believed was) for re-election expenses.
She took money from a burial fund and knowingly misrepresented how that money was to be used.
As best I read it all these are indisputable facts.
How is that not a scandal?
“Mr Hem” deposited over $100,000 into the slush fund for Wilson.
Was Wilson at the casino the day before all of those transactions as well? The casino is an irrelevancy.
“No your honour, that particular deposit was simply money legitimately won at the casino with my own hard earned money. No, no the other $100,000 was stolen but that $5000 in cash in an envelope that I got my underling to deposit into my girlfriends account was legitimately won with bets made from my very own pay cheque”
You clown.
Currency Lad
“Another question: doesn’t the fact that Wilson had Gillard’s bank account number suggest there were other, earlier pay-offs?”
Having done an extensive, structured survey of five respondants, I am yet to find one who has a record of their partner’s bank account number. Perhaps my survey is biased and everyone in the 1990s knew this information as readily as they knew phone numbers.
I’ve had to wade through numerous government Codes of Conduct, and these days, they all say something along the lines of:
It doesn’t matter any more if you aren’t actually corrupt – you can still get in the soup if you are perceived as being corrupt.
The way the punters perceive Gillard’s actions is what counts. When I hear of cash being exchanged in envelopes, I always think of this video from the NSW Police Royal Commission – Chook Fowler counting the cash (2.40 mark). It simply smells fishy.
Steve,
casinos and other betting places are a wonderful place to launder money.
and by the way … it is irrelevant.
Shitfer:
The truly delicious thing about this, Shitfer, is that it does not matter.
What we are seeing is a carefully spun web of lies unravelling. This is the end of the early stage and the beginning of an accelerating collapse of the web of lies the Lying Slapper thought she had her gigantic arse covered with.
There’s blood in the water now and lots of people chumming the sharks: more every week. Rudd’s cronies are alert, he’s looking to use a gutting knife to gralloch her alive then hang others with piano wire to watch them kick and squirm their political lives out as they void their bowels.
It’s even starting to dawn on even the dullest journo (all Australian Bolshevik Collective fall into the ‘imbecilic’ category and have not worked this out yet) that whoever finally breaks Gillard will become the ‘famous journo who took a PM down’. They have serious skin in the game now and more every week. Tempting, so tempting.
And this time of year is the killing season.
What fun! I am enjoying this immensely.
And to think all the information being made public has all been done so by Big Red’s Labor and Union acolytes, past and present. Delicious irony that her side would do this.
Therein lieth many hoots of laughter, Gab!
Hating haters gotta hate….. and no-one hates like the ALP.
Stevieliar QC – prepare dinner
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Ploughing through this….
A cash deposit would be a cash deposit. A name might be on the form completed by the depositor for the deposit, maybe.
Gab
Oooooh, they love her, they do!
twostix: I can’t follow your logic.
I agree, going to the casino is irrelvant to the deposits totalling $100,000 that Hem made (over a period of time, it appears.) So what?
Going to the casino is relevant as to a possible explanation for the source of the funds apparently deposited to Gillard’s account. (Assuming Hem’s memory is accurate, and he is not mixing up a deposit to Gillard’s firm’s account.)
Hem says Wilson had been to the casino the night before he was asked to make a cash deposit to Gillard.
Oh, well she won’t remember anything.
Wish a partner would make $5000 deposits in my bank account[s].
Thank goodness you came back to defend her.
BOAB- nice video reference there- and see: no racism- the paper bag in Chook Fowler’s hand is white- although the colours are not good – they obviously weren’t using their Iphones.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/labor-mps-dismiss-fresh-awu-claims/story-e6frfku9-1226516400870#ixzz2CAr5UQaY
How quickly will the Age, the SMH, the Herald Sun, the Telegraph and the AFR withdraw their reports on this?
Oh yeah, and AbbottAbbottAbbott.
Steve doing more hand waving than Toscanini.
Apart from the only one made – and it’s not an ‘allegation.’ It’s the bit about her receiving $5000 in a secret payment from a criminal who robbed Australian workers.
The vile woman just loves compounding lies. She’s now lying about Abbott being the source of her legal and fiscal irregularities.
Why doesn’t she just say she earns the $5k on the game. No one would doubt that.
There’s something icky about a married man giving $5,000 wad of cash in an evelope to another man to put in his “girlfriend’s” bank account.
candy, we got the message about 18 months ago from you. You will never like Gillard because she has had relationships with a couple of married men, even though (as I have fruitlessly mentioned several times) it seems not to be in the public record what the exact status of the marriages were at the time.
I’m not sure why you feel the need to keep telling us the same thing in 1000 variations.
Yeah, because that’s your usual modus operandi and you don’t want anyone else stealing your boring thunder.
“I’m not sure why you feel the need to keep telling us the same thing in 1000 variations.”
I’m sorry to have hurt your feelings Steve about her, I know you think highly of the PM, so I shan’t mention it again.
Is that it Stevieliar QC? Very disappointing. Running out of steam?
Steve, you carried on about the Abbott wall-punching fantasy/repressed memory as though it was the smoking gun that would reveal him as unelectable.
Yet, you are utterly blasé about the abyss of very real malfeasance that is opening up under the Droner from Altona, seeming to consider that the passing of time and some sort of statute of limitations renders it the equivalent of an unpaid parking ticket.
Your selective outrage – if not outright hypocrisy – is laughable.
I swear, I thought is was Fat Boy making that comment until the last bit.
Well she didn’t spend that cash on shoes
candy, don’t let that worthless piece of shit dictate what you can and cannot comment. she’s an adulterous slag, so keep mentioning it.
Only in your mind, James.
I actually said the original incident wasn’t that big a deal. Even Marr said that. What gave the story legs was the form of Abbott’s denial, because moving from “can’t remember that” to “what I meant was ‘can’t remember because it didn’t happen’” sounds too cute. This led to other people coming out backing up the accuser.
The reality disconnect in this blog, where everyone thought it was outrageous that anyone could believe the accuser, was another reason to discuss the matter.
Yet my position was always that the incident itself was no biggie, given his age and relative immaturity at the time.
So, short story – you’re wrong. As per usual.
I doubt she was being serious, harry.
I didn’t think she was, but I got to call you a worthless piece of shit so it was worth the effort.
Candy, You’ll get on better with SfB if you’re a little bit trickier and slip in the occasional lie that makes him feel you’re just like him. As long as you’re upfront and honest, he has nowhere to go. The other males here just watch him (with waning astonishment) attacking the females on the premise that they’re weaker and will somehow falter. The PM’s only defender at the Cat is a whiny beta male coward that no-one respects. SfB is as cornered as the PM is. The lies are unravelling. Everyone in the ALP now knows she is a carcass. Even the trolls.
But just remember, Candy, it’s not like 5G in today’s money. It’s more like 8G today.
Maybe Ms Gillard was the first victim of the infamous Nigerian scam! It was still a bit crude in those days as they paid out first…..
Are you saying Wilson is Nigerian?
To be honest, under the new one-drop-of-blood laws Lavarch implemented and Mordy enforced it would be dangerous for a white male who is straight and possibly married to say as much.
That’s type of statement that is only safe if you are a lesbian Pakistani muslim who claims to be part of one of our indigenous communities.
Yet we’re supposed to believe the Chief Bogan’s somewhat-less-than-convincing squirming?
$5,000?
Wonder how much a trick that was?
And shrieking in an octave higher than Farinelli.
Alas, another night working late – 3rd in a row, but probably the last one this week. A Stella Artois then dinner followed by a couple of glasses of a delicious South Australian Pinot Noir has set the mood and this should be maintained by some easy listening until midnight:
Frank Sinatra ‘Ol’ Blue Eyes is Back’ album (now playing)
Then, albums in order-
Hans Zimmer ‘The House of the Spirits’ soundtrack
Doug Ashdown ‘Winter in America’
‘The Thomas Crown Affair’ soundtrack
‘The Very Best of Christopher Cross’
James Horner ‘Gorky Park’ soundtrack
Better get to it I suppose, before some kind Cat soul tells me to ‘go away’ (or words to that effect).
I see the Rodent tried her Outrageously! Outraged! trick again today – combined with the ‘I’ve answered it before’ trick. The cheeky reporter asked her if she meant “untrue” when she said “unsubstantiated” but she wouldn’t answer that either.
Mk50
Loved your comment at 4.23pm. I love visiting this blog for the education — gralloching was not something I’d come across in my farming life (no much call for it in the veggie patch) but feel most enriched with the discovery of a new word and an excellent example of how to use it. Thanks
Hmm. Juliar was making the two-backed beast Wilson for what, four years? Assuming the usual average, that $5000 means he paid about eight bucks a trick.
The unkind might think that’s kind of expensive given the quality of the product. The less unkind might say Wilson’s a cheapskate, bounder and cad – after all she was only in her 30s, young and naive.
Mk50 – c’mon – none of that.
Sorry, wrong Fred.
Oh, OK, Doomlord. Snarky comment withdrawn with apologies to all and I’ll get back in my box. Edit/delete at will.
I have no idea what the usual average might be. I know MY average but haven’t discussed it with many people. In fact none.
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Septimus – move away from the stereo and put your hands in the air.
If you get lost from corporate HQ to the Sydney Ferry…oh well do not make eye contact with me either.
Listen to me Carpe. You start bagging Christopher Cross and you start on the slippery slope.
Next you will deny that Lionel Ritchie can dance on the ceiling. And then it’s all over.
Heh heh. Haven’t got to Chris Cross yet. Currently on track 4 of Thomas Crown – looking forward to track 13 (the excellent piano work track).
Coffee time now.
Lionel Ritchie, Prince, Billy Ocean and Luther Vandross were all better and more talented than MJ and had better artistic output.
Plus they were less crazy.
Track 13 ‘Thomas Crown Affair’ playing now. Wish I could play like that.
Pfft
Wouldn’t take much to be less crazy than MJ.
Everyone’s less crazy than MJ.
Chris Cross has just started playing Carpe. Don’t shoot.
Look, I get that Snic is hesitant to ban anyone – open borders, big tent and all that – but Chris Cross? Really? Why not Barry Manilow next?
Having liberal standards shouldn’t necessarily preclude having any standards, Doomlord. There has to be a line somewhere.
NNNNNNNnnnnnnoooooooooooo!!!!!
For the love of god nnnnnoooooo.
Cristopher Cross?
OK.
Raise you a Jack Johnson.
I was behind an older gent at the Food Lion in Kill Devil Hills, when his windbreaker pocket suddenly started blaring forth “At the Copa, Copacabana…” It was his cellphone ringtone.
Inexplicable and horrifying.
If that sort of thing starts happening here, I’m gone. Fair warning.
I’ll see your Jack Johnson and raise you, no, fvkit i’ll double down on a Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.
Google that and weep beotches.
I win, cash up.
Kenny G.
Unnggghh
Of course i could be wrong
Bugger – why didn’t i think of Uncle Kenny.
My Bet on Pamyu still stands.
Avantasia’s The Scarecrow, with a wee bit of Sinisterite (Doom Thrash is hammering now) and that leads to Oldfield’s Tubular Bells, then into the album Edwardian Woodward!
genre and era mixing. It drives my kids nuts.
And oh my, have you heard Seventh Angel’s album ‘Lament for the Weary?’
I’ll see your Jack Johnson and raise you, no, fvkit i’ll double down on a Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.
Yep.
Nomoto Karia locked and loaded on my iTune.
Raise that.
Beat my bet oash up – i have the most cringeworthy music.
Show me the money troops.
Too rich for my blood *heads explodes after watching youtube*
I’ll see that and raise you a Kusume Koharu,
and i’ll back that up with a second helping of Kirarin Revolution.
Pay up – i win.
All right, all right. By popular request I have moved on to ‘Gorky Park’. Everybody ok with James Horner?
Jack Johnson? Had to google that one DaveF – will listen to some samples on line later. Might be something like Ray La Montagne?
sdog – that would have been really scary. Like the scene in Monsters Inc where the kid’s sock is on the monster’s back. Hope you’re ok now. Should have called 911.
Oh christ. OK I owe you one internet.
James Horner? The dude who wrote the theme music for Battle Beyond the Stars?
Septimus: J Johnson was donated by my sister in law.
For the lady in your life who feels the Beatles a bit ‘raw’ buy her jack Johnson.
Ok – you are all so lucky i didn’t have to unleash AKB48 singing “Heavy Rotation”.
We should move on while my pulse is low and my wife still talks to me.
It appears the link has been taken down
I noticed that Ripper
Could we haggle for 5 internets – after all i didn’t post AKB48 so fair is fair.
Although i will settle for 3.
Well, that’s the end of work for the night. Too many more interesting musical things to look up now. Thanks folks.
Janis Ian ‘Between the Lines’ playing now, but will probably switch to Pink Floyd’s ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ to calm down before bed.
J
That’s him Lloyd.
BTW my apologies all. My accidental posting here seems to have distracted everyone from the thread’s more serious topic.
J pop is always serious.
Fair nuff. So what do you think the $5K was for?
Service rendered?
I have several Janis Ian albums.
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I wonder if there will ever be a person with the title “Disgraced Ex-Prime Minister”?
Hedley Thomas uncovers a new tangential scandal at The Age – involving that newspaper running dead on union corruption involving Julia Gillard’s boyfriend.
BLEWITT TO TELL ALL
Hopefully he is being constantly guarded.
The end of the matter that never even began with any evidence:
the Murdoch Mendax
The lying slapper would be shitting herself.