Money delivered to Gillard’s Bank Account in a paper Bag

Revelations about the Prime Minister’s previous career as a lawyer get ever more salty.

Today’s piece in the Australian by Hedley Thomas and Pia Akerman  suggests a $5000 cash  payment into an account of Ms Gillard by union employee Wayne Hem.  The money is said to have been deposited under instructions from Ms Gillard’s former boyfriend Bruce Wilson.

Ms Gillard had provided legal advice in 1992 that helped Mr Wilson and his union ally, Ralph Blewitt, set up a slush fund – the AWU Workplace Reform Association – which the two men used in the ensuing years to issue bogus invoices and fraudulently receive hundreds of thousands of dollars.

This is especially interesting since if money was deposited in a bank account there is a paper trial and as there was  some apparently diarised documentation about it a year later by Mr Cambridge  who was joint Secretary of the Australian Workers Union.  Mr Cambridge swore an affidavit in 1996 which said he could not understand how the AWU’s lawyers, Slater & Gordon,  could allow money “obviously taken from the union, in the purchase of private property (a terrace house) … without seeking and obtaining proper authority from the union … and without recording the interest of the union on the title”.

The June 7, 1996, diary entry by Mr Cambridge states: “During the course of the conversation with Wayne Hem he told me about an event that took place in about July last year (1995)”.  If all this is true, the kindest explanation for Ms Gillard is that it was an under-the-counter payment for the services she rendered her boyfriend in establishing the the AWU Workplace Reform Association.  In that case she was merely cheating on her employer, Slater and Gordon.  Alternative explanations dig more deeply into the character of the Prime Minister

Mr Cambridge said his position as a member of a quasi-judicial tribunal made it inappropriate “to now offer any public comment about these issues”.

A government’s control of patronage – in this case the kangaroo court, “Fair Work Australia”, provides massive capabilities to reward the loyal and silence those who have material that could embarrass and even bring down the party in power.  All governments exercise such opportunities but Labor seems to do so more spectacularly, rigorously and consistently than the Coalition.

[Update: I have modified parts of the post and added in some links. Sinc]

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239 Responses to Money delivered to Gillard’s Bank Account in a paper Bag

  1. m0nty

    So what’s the story here? Man Gives Girlfriend Money? Solicitor Gets Paid? I don’t see anything new.

    The police would have had access to Gillard’s bank account records including this transaction, and they did nothing. This is still a non-story.

    By all means keep pursuing it though, it’s doing great things for Gillard’s poll numbers. Also, please get Abbott to keep hammering it, maybe he can reach down to Nelson’s level.

  2. Kruddler

    ‘paper trial’ should read ‘paper trail’. Or then again, maybe you were right the first time…

  3. Abu Chowdah

    Haha. Look at Monty. Weak as piss.

  4. m0nty

    Haha, look at Abbott’s poll numbers. Weak as Turnbull.

  5. Pedro

    You should adjust this post ASAP. There’s never been any suggestion Gillard assisted in the management of the fund’s bank account.

    [Yes. Thank you. Sinc]

  6. Rabz

    Nice to see this little piece didn’t include something along the lines of:

    Dullard says she did not know her boyfriend’s frauds, did not profit from them, etc.

    Time to drop that pretence, it seems.

  7. Rabz

    Oh and mUttley –

    Solicitor Gets Paid?

    Care to remind us what the ‘payment’ was for?

    No, I didn’t think so.

  8. Abu Chowdah

    Oh I totally agree Minty. If only that nice Turnbull was leader, I might change my vote from liberal to labor.

    Love your work, tubs.

  9. Token

    Haha. Look at Monty. Weak as piss.

    It is as desperate as his comic defense predicting Slipper would not fall over those disgusting mysogynistic texts that Gillard, the ALP, the Greens & the Independents endorse.

  10. James in Melbourne

    You’re missing the point, guys, which is that TONY ABBOTT IS A CATHOLIC!!!!!!

  11. JJP

    Monty, payments to a solicitor tend to be recorded in their costs journals. This is to prevent a partner in a firm from cheating their co-partners by underreporting their income.

    Again, if this was payment for legal services, it goes to character.

    If it was not payment for legal services, I want to know what the $5k in cash was for.

  12. Pedro

    LOL, anyone who claims the money was lawyers fees is alleging another wrong by Gillard. The force of that claim is that either: she was practicing on the side and contrary to her practicing certificate, or she was privately paid for work done by the firm.

  13. Gibbo

    The real question is how do we blame this on Tony Abbott?

  14. Peter Whiteford

    Alan

    Can you advise where the quotation from Mr Cambridge stops and the comment from you (or someone else) starts in this paragraph.

    The June 7, 1996, diary entry by Mr Cambridge states: “During the course of the conversation with Wayne Hem he told me about an event that took place in about July last year (1995). If all this is true, the kindest explanation for Ms Gillard is that it was an under-the-counter payment for the services she rendered her boyfriend in establishing the fraudulent bank account. In that case she was merely cheating on her employer, Slater and Gordon. Alternative explanations dig more deeply into the character of the Prime Minister

  15. .

    $5000 back then is worth about $8000 now.

    By all means keep pursuing it though, it’s doing great things for Gillard’s poll numbers. Also, please get Abbott to keep hammering it, maybe he can reach down to Nelson’s level.

    No. She is going to gaol.

  16. pete m

    Well she did fly all the way over the Perth and speak in support of the widow’s fund transfer, so maybe Monty has a point ….

  17. Alfonso

    Julia is a practicing fabian welfare statist at best, at worst a closet marxist…..so she naturally expects other people’s money to be handed to her, it’s a human right.

  18. .

    Has anyone here given their girlfriend or paid their lawyer with a brown paper bag full of cash?

  19. Alfonso

    And it won’t be designated lawyers fees because London to a brick it was not declared to the ATO.

  20. 2dogs

    “So what’s the story here? Man Gives Girlfriend Money? Solicitor Gets Paid? I don’t see anything new.”

    Check the date of the payment, Monty. It’s 1996. This is after Gillard says she terminated the relationship with Wilson.

  21. m0nty

    The police would have had access to Gillard’s bank account records including this transaction, and they did nothing. This is still a non-story.

    No response from any of you to this point, of course.

    By all means keep pursuing it though, it’s doing great things for Gillard’s poll numbers. Also, please get Abbott to keep hammering it, maybe he can reach down to Nelson’s level.

    And no response to this either.

    Pedro is correct BTW Alan, you are potentially defaming Gillard by including that bit about the “fraudulent bank account”.

  22. Token

    LOL, anyone who claims the money was lawyers fees is alleging another wrong by Gillard.

    Didn’t she say she had handwritten receipts for all the building work at her home?

    What could this money be for?

  23. MT Isa Miner

    Dot , you need to send your comment to EVERY newspaper and TV station everywhere, as lead question to the news, and for parliamentrary question time from mow until the election.

    $5000 in cash in a brown paper bag.

    I well remember the Fitzgerald royal commission and it’s brown paper bags. I haven’t heard of the little #$#@^ ards since then.

    This is the question to which Gillard has no innocent answer.

  24. Pickles

    There are any amount of explanations for the provenance and fate of this foldey gear.

    There was no bag and it wasn’t brown and it wasn’t made of paper.

    If there was a bag and it was made of paper and it was brown there was no money in it.

    If there was money in it, then it may have been:

    The last distribution of the Fruits of the Fine Cotton Plunge;

    Proceeds of a raffle to help Kalgoorlie miner’s widows;

    The unclaimed prize of a raffle to help Kalgoorlie miner’s widows;

    Change from the bulk purchase of hi viz safety jackets for WA construction workers;

    Just found it when we were renovating Norm Gallagher’s old beach house and as Julia was an Officer of the Court, Partner of A Law Firm and swore to do some stuff and not do other stuff on a bible in front of a hatful of Supreme Court Judges who better to give it to until it’s rightful owner could be established?

    Ower Julia left it in a fitting room at Town Mode (along with a pair of soiled uees) and we thought if we gave it back to her she might spend a bit more on shoes.

    We were just saving up to buy a farm at some place called The Bylong Valley in NSW to grow organic vegetables, milk a goat and home school the kids. Maybe one day someone will put some coal under it and then we can make a mine. However one does that.

    Who’s Ian Cambridge?

  25. .

    Pedro is correct BTW Alan, you are potentially defaming Gillard by including that bit about the “fraudulent bank account”.

    In the alternative, you are accusing Gillard of tax evasion.

  26. Sleetmute

    Yeah, I get random $5000 deposits paid into my bank account frequently. Happens all the time. It’s certainly not because I’m assisting corruption. No, siree!

    As for Gillard’s poll numbers, she’s still trailling in every poll I can see, and that’s before the police have even interviewed Ralph Blewitt.

  27. Token

    Talking about Brown Paper Bags.

    The script for the Carr/Iemma/Rees version of Underbelly Sussex Street continues to be fleshed out:

    The inquiry also heard that Moses and Eddie Obeid lobbied Mr Sartor over an approach that Mr Sartor, then the energy minister, might make to Energy Australia on Moses Obeid’s behalf.

    This suggestion was attacked with some relish by Eddie Obeid’s barrister Stuart Littlemore, QC, who suggested Mr Sartor had never even made ”a scratch of a pen in a diary” to record this startling event. He also suggested the pair were political enemies, which meant Mr Obeid would hardly be seeking such a thing.

    But Mr Sartor corrected him, saying the meeting pre-dated his time as planning minister. The former premiers Morris Iemma and Nathan Rees recalled Eddie Obeid’s insistence that Mr Sartor be dumped as planning minister and Ian Macdonald installed in his place.

    ”Mr Macdonald would work with stakeholders better,” Mr Iemma recalled Mr Obeid saying.

    Mr Rees said that when he was premier, Mr Obeid claimed Mr Macdonald would be much better at getting ”the state and the city moving again”, Mr Rees said.

  28. .

    Dot , you need to send your comment to EVERY newspaper and TV station everywhere, as lead question to the news, and for parliamentrary question time from mow until the election.

    $5000 in cash in a brown paper bag.

    I well remember the Fitzgerald royal commission and it’s brown paper bags. I haven’t heard of the little #$#@^ ards since then.

    This is the question to which Gillard has no innocent answer.

    The Federal Parliamentary Liberal, National and Liberal National Parties need to grow some balls and ask the questions ASAP. This barely gets a run in Parliament.

  29. You’re right, Monty, fuck right and wrong, all that matters is the poll numbers! Moron.

  30. candy

    Won’t make a difference to the polling figures. there’s half of Australia stuck to the Alliance for one reason or another. J. Gillard could be in jail and they’d still vote for the Alliance. Labor has polarised Australia.

  31. “The police would have had access to Gillard’s bank account records including this transaction, and they did nothing. This is still a non-story.
    No response from any of you to this point, of course.”

    They stopped pursuing the affair when Thiess would not pursue charges. Whether they got are far as checking her bank account, who knows, but they whole “stopped investigating” thingy is all somewhat smelly.

    There. Happy now?

  32. When do we get Underbelly: Red-headed Trollop?

  33. .

    They stopped pursuing the affair when Thiess would not pursue charges.

    Wow, that’s pissweak. The guy who worked in Theiss looks like he was complicit in any wrongdoing. The Government of Western Australia was ripped off. Who was the Premier at the time?

  34. Token

    They stopped pursuing the affair when Thiess would not pursue charges.

    Of course Thiess didn’t want the matter followed up.

    Thiess had received public money from the WA government money and failed to ensure it was spent on purpose it was given.

    It would be interesting to see the T&C’s on the grant from the WA gov. I’m sure there was a requirement to ensure the money was used for the purpose set out.

    Corruption is corruption and Thiess should be in trouble for allow itself to be the vessel to funnel money. As I understand it, if this occured in the US they would be in a lot of trouble.

  35. MT Isa Miner

    Gillar resigned from Slater and Gordon (HT Bolt) in May 1995. Hem needs to be sure of his dates. That makes things simpler for the general public- i.e. no connection with any conveancing at S$G- as if.

  36. Token

    The Government of Western Australia was ripped off. Who was the Premier at the time?

    If I understand the chronology – Carmen Lawrence (12 February 1990 to 16 February 1993)

  37. Bunyip

    The head of Theiss in WA was Bruce Wilson’s brother-in-law. Who says the left doesn’t respect family values?

  38. jupes

    Check the date of the payment, Monty. It’s 1996. This is after Gillard says she terminated the relationship with Wilson.

    Nah. Read it again 2dogs. The deposit was made in July 1995.

  39. MT Isa Miner

    Token, I’m shocked, shocked that it was another Emily’s List member.

  40. Carpe Jugulum

    They stopped pursuing the affair when Thiess would not pursue charges

    If Theiss had pursued it they would have painted a bullseye on themselves for Heavy Kevvie, Fat Joe and the other dribblers from CFMEU WA.

  41. Token

    If Theiss had pursued it they would have painted a bullseye on themselves for Heavy Kevvie, Fat Joe and the other dribblers from CFMEU WA.

    De Jure Theiss has a legal duty to its shareholder as custodians of their money and none to the CFMEU.

    De Facto Theiss would be crazy to take their duty to shareholders more seriously than their need to yield to the whims of the horse punching thugs of the CFMEU.

  42. Scapula

    This might, in conjuction with an enormous amount of other evidence, lead to an allegation that may require investigation.

    Since when did newspapers however start publishing material without any allegations to answer?

    Given that the Australian is too well-heeled to worry about defamation, they’ll go on fishing.

    This story is a ‘birther’.

  43. Token

    Crapula, what you wrote at 10:07am is wrong and defamatory:

    Since when did newspapers however start publishing material without any allegations to answer?

    Given that the Australian is too well-heeled to worry about defamation, they’ll go on fishing.

    If you read the piece in The Australian it addresses your point:

    Ms Gillard, who has at all times strenuously insisted that she did not do anything wrong and was unaware of the workings of the association, yesterday declined to answer questions from The Australian.

    Do you have the character to withdraw your comment?

  44. Carpe Jugulum

    De Jure Theiss has a legal duty to its shareholder as custodians of their money and none to the CFMEU.

    Absolutely true Token.

    The point is that up until the early 2000′s paying for industrial harmony was quite common. If they blew the whistle on AWU then the other unions enjoying the largess of Theiss would have targetted them.

    I’m not saying that it is right, and yes, they have failed in their duties to their shareholders. That is how things used to operate, especially in WA & Vic.

  45. Muphin

    James in Melbourne 14 Nov 12 at 8:45 am. What is your argument? Kevin Rudd was raised as a Catholic. Your insinuation is insulting to Kevin Rudd and other Labor Party Catholics.

    The AWU affair is Gillards Achilles Heal, if she will not make a full statement in Parliament, what are the people of her own electorate (Lalor) going to think? Or will they asking themselves, are we going to elect a dishonest Prime Minister?

  46. m0nty

    Won’t make a difference to the polling figures. there’s half of Australia stuck to the Alliance for one reason or another. J. Gillard could be in jail and they’d still vote for the Alliance. Labor has polarised Australia.

    Whoops, someone forgot to log out of the candy sockpuppet account.

  47. sdog

    Since when did newspapers however start publishing material without any allegations to answer?

    If you were in charge during the Nixon administration, “Watergate” would still be just another DC hotel.

    Then again, we wouldn’t be appending “-gate” to every single scandal, so there’d be that, anyway.

  48. Bunyip

    Mt Isa Miner: Gillard’s exit interview was in September, 1995, not May. She was gone by October of that year, having told Peter Gordon that she had broken off the affair with Wilson, who was back in WA, and was no longer in contact with him.

    Another lie, it would seem.

  49. candy

    She’s a lying immoral fraudster, Monty.

  50. Arnost

    Remember this was just before the S&G exit interview.

    PG: Julia, it’s been put to a partner of Slater & Gordon in the last week that there exists a receipt with respect to renovation work conducted at your home which is in some way connected with funds from the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association account.

    JG: … I don’t know what transactions Con and Bill have had about the account for that work, but I believe what has happened is Con has gone to the AWU looking for Bill or looking for payment for the account

    It is an account dated June

    directed towards me… The account is for $3780. I’ve paid $2000 of it already and I’m making arrangements to get the $1780 together to pay the rest of it.

    Is this to pay for the invoices “accidentally” sent to AWU [that caused the whole scam to unravel]…?

    As a partner in a lawfirm, I find it difficult that JEG would have trouble getting a couple of grand togther to pay for [expected] renovation work being done.

    Here’s a likely story – AWU came to her questioning the invoices, and she had to pay for it out of her own account. And hence the paper bag deposit… [further covered by the story that BruceW "won" it at the casino]

  51. Scapula

    Questions are not allegations and the way I read the Australian is that no allegations were put to her.

    Why should anyone answer questions about their finances unless there is some specific accusation of illegality?

  52. Carpe Jugulum

    She’s a lying immoral fraudster

    Harsh but fair.

  53. A Lurker

    Did Gillard declare that $5000 to the ATO, and if not, why not?

  54. Tom

    Given that the Australian is too well-heeled to worry about defamation, they’ll go on fishing.

    Crapula, you are very, very, very, very dumb. Off you go, back to Mogadishu.

  55. James in Melbourne

    James in Melbourne 14 Nov 12 at 8:45 am. What is your argument?

    My argument, Muphin, is that while ostensibly the Royal Commission into Child Abuse can be portrayed by Gillard and her henchturd as the “right thing to do,” the concomitant smearing-by-association of Tony Abbott was worked out in advance, with the full (yet indirect) building of that case to proceed in conjunction with the Royal Commission.

    The only thing that could derail this plan of Abbott and the henchturd is if the Royal Commission goes off-reservation and widens its brief into other institutions with sorry histories re child abuse, such as the ALP, and others whose names cannot be mentioned, but which are preying on young children as we speak, in outback communities; or happily mutilating their daughters in line with the freedoms granted them under multi-culturalism.

  56. boy on a bike

    If it was payment for services provided as a lawyer, did she declare it to the ATO as income? Did she pay tax on it?

  57. James in Melbourne

    I mean “this plan of Gillard and the henchturd,” of course.

  58. Scapula

    I’m off to Benghazi where freedom reigns down from the sky like bullets and mortar shells.

  59. Gab

    Someone adjust Scrappy’s medication, please.

  60. Scapula

    Yes, I’m going on the ‘birther’ pills highly recommended by Kenyans as we write.

  61. lotocoti

    Thiess would not pursue charges

    Let’s not forget that back in those days, some were not unfamiliar with greasing the wheels of progress philanthropy.
    *cough Sir Les, Sir Joh cough*

  62. m0nty

    She’s a lying immoral fraudster, Monty.

    Yes, and as you’d say, that nice Mr Abbott looks so good in a suit, doesn’t he candy?

  63. Gab

    LOL Monty deploys the old ABbottAbbottAbbott attack in relation to an issue to do with gillard. Standard Labor tactic.

  64. dianeh

    Is this the correct time line?

    Payment of $5000 into JG’s bank account was July 1995.

    Invoices for renovations were June 1995.

    JG’s exit interview was Sept 1995.

    JG and BW split up sometime between July and Sept 1995.

    Perhaps the $5000 was a payment from Wilson to Gillard after they split up, to help her out, or as part of splitting some minor property. When did they split up exactly?

    I am a bit suspicious of the questioning of Gillard over the use of AWU money to pay for her house renovations, particularly when viewing the time line. Interesting that S&G also named the slush fund during that questioning.

  65. Septimus

    You’re missing the point, guys, which is that TONY ABBOTT IS A CATHOLIC!!!!!!

    ABC24 this morning was busily mentioning that of course Tony Abbott was a seminarian who trained as a priest. Nudge nudge wink wink.

  66. Septimus

    You’re missing the point, guys, which is that TONY ABBOTT IS A CATHOLIC!!!!!!

    ABC24 this morning was busily mentioning that of course Tony Abbott was a seminarian who trained as a priest. Nudge nudge wink wink.

  67. candy

    “Yes, and as you’d say, that nice Mr Abbott looks so good in a suit, doesn’t he candy?”

    He’s very nice looking in a suit (very fit and well put together), but he’s not doing well in the polls, just as you say, Monty. Can’t be denied, and it’s troubling for the Coalition.

  68. Arnost

    Is this the correct time line?

    Invoices for renovations were [accidentally sent to AWU] June 1995.

    Payment of $5000 into JG’s bank account was July 1995.

    Scam unravells

    JG’s exit interview was Sept 1995.

  69. C.L.

    A lawyer sacked by her firm who receives secret cash payments from a criminal.

    Monty – avoiding the bath for another manic 24 hours of spin:

    “Look over there – a misogynistic archibishop!”

  70. Scapula

    When did an envelope become a ‘paper bag’?:

    “This event involved Bruce Wilson handing Wayne an envelope which contained approximately $5000 in $100 and $50 notes and Wilson instructed Hem to deposit this $5000 into a personal account of Julia Gillard.

    Its also not known what kind of account he placed the money in:

    “I didn’t know if it was for Julia or if the account was a private account or a Slater & Gordon account.

    “It just had Julia Gillard’s name on it and I put it in the bank account.”

    So there is no paper bag and no account number.

  71. Gab

    People, tread carefully as Scrappy has found the bold button and he’s not afraid to use it.

  72. Carpe Jugulum

    Ok scrappy it was an envelope not a brown paper bag.

    So that makes it ok then.

    Straws, you’re clutching at them.

  73. Andore Jr

    An envelope is technically a paper bag. No press conference required. Yet

  74. Scapula

    Paper bags full of money have become synonymous with corruption.

    Envelopes are just envelopes.

  75. Carpe Jugulum

    Envelopes are just envelopes.

    Envelopes full of money are just like a paper bag – only neater.

  76. Tiny Dancer

    Bob. You and Monty are the funniest things going these days.

  77. MT Isa Miner

    Thats just racism pure ans simple- just because the envelope’s white doesn’t make it eny less corrupt!
    I say $5000 cash is dodgy even if it comes in a BArbie purse !

  78. C.L.

    Envelopes are flat, rectangular paper bags.

  79. .

    This event involved Bruce Wilson handing Wayne an envelope which contained approximately $5000 in $100 and $50 notes and Wilson instructed Hem to deposit this $5000 into a personal account of Julia Gillard.

    That’s a very thick envelope.

  80. Carpe Jugulum

    If an AO sized envelope full of money is just an envelope.

    Is a gunny sack full of cash just chicken feed?

  81. Gab

    LOL Scrappy tries to derail the thread by focusing on minutia. What the cash was delivered in is of no consequence. Where the cash came from and to whom it was delivered is the important bit.

  82. sdog

    Was it a manilla envelope or was it white bond? I think this is the issue we need to be focusing on.

    #scrappytalk

  83. Gab

    Next up, Scappy tells us the gsm is forensically important in determining the difference between a paper bag and paper envelope.

  84. duncan

    Scaps…

    “money back then was just made of paper.. Gillard was handed a wad of paper, so what?”

  85. Carpe Jugulum

    #scrappytalk

    Is that a real hash tag? I feel some twitter parody coming up.

  86. Token

    Where the cash came from and to whom it was delivered is the important bit.

    Plus the timeline of events.

    What was the date on and the amount of the hand written invoices renovations on JEG house? Upon what date did Town Mode the builder get the payment?

    Have these documents been released?

  87. Pickles

    Nice people use envelopes. Riff Raff use brown paper bags. That’s why the stationer thinks nothing of me picking up a box of envelopes, but gives me a knowing wink when I ask for a bag of brown paper bags.

    She also looks funny when I ask for those tiny zip lock plastic bags. When she asked what I want them for I told her “very very small sandwiches”. I think I got away with it.

  88. duncan

    And water balloons at the supermarket… very dodgy

  89. Carpe Jugulum

    “very very small sandwiches”. I think I got away with it.

    aaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha – now THAT is comedy.

  90. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    What is almost as bad as Gillard’s behaviour has been the commentariat trying to pass this whole thing off as a plot by Murdoch and the Tories to slime Gillard.
    To me, it stands out like the proverbial dogs bollocks that the source(s) for the story are from deep within the Labor Party trying to settle some very old scores and/or believe that the only hope of avoiding decimation at the next election is with a leader other than Gillard.
    This has been a deliberate campaign with a timely drip feeding of clues and hints designed to consistently upset any momentum that the Lying Slapper may be building.
    It can not be coincidental that Gillard hastily convened a presser to announce her ill conceived RC within a couple of hours of the OZ putting the latest lot of allegations to her office.
    As someone stated on the RC thread yesterday, “Look over there, it’s a unicorn!”

  91. candy

    Since Ms Gillard was an experienced lawyer having huge amounts of cash deposited in her account in that casual manner from a man who won it at a casino must have been concerning.
    Not even a cheque or anything.

  92. Token

    …the source(s) for the story are from deep within the Labor Party trying to settle some very old scores and/or believe that the only hope of avoiding decimation at the next election is with a leader other than Gillard.

    T’was Rudd backer McClelland who made a statement in the parliament that started this latest process in June.

  93. Eddystone

    Since Ms Gillard was an experienced lawyer

    Yet still young and naive…

  94. .

    Mc Clelland. Your next ALP PM with Kathy Jackson as Treasurer and DPM.

  95. Pickles

    If someone could help me with an excuse for buying plasticine that would help. I don’t think the truth (me bong’s leaking like a bastard) will cut it.

  96. “Envelopes are flat, rectangular paper bags.

    C.L.
    14 Nov 12 at 11:13 am”

    With stickiness!

  97. kae

    I would have noticed $5K deposited in my account.

    Bunyip’s theory about the money is interesting.

  98. Septimus

    Envelopes are flat, rectangular paper bags

    A hessian bag would have been more appropriate for Dullard.

  99. C.L.

    Interesting that a private diary found its way into the office of The Australian.

    Why hasn’t Cambridge reported this to police?

  100. H B Bear

    Drip …. drip…….drip…….

  101. boy on a bike

    The main concern of the press corps today will be whether Tony Abbott uses the same sort of envelopes.

  102. Gab

    Bunyip has an excellent take on this matter, with predictions that come true.

    http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/thats-his-girl.html

  103. C.L.

    BOAB, this does raise questions about the role Tony Abbott is playing.

  104. Infidel tiger

    I hope the stripes are vertical on Gillard’s prison issued dungarees.

  105. Token

    Michael Smith’s view on the new information:

    Remember the day that Paul Kelly had that interview with Ms Gillard on Peter van Onselen’s Sky TV show? That was a Sunday. That afternoon Slater and Gordon raced out a press release that could just as easily have been written by the PM herself as by the board of directors (on a Sunday) of a public company listed on the ASX.

    The Press Release was designed to write the PM out of trouble. It failed dismally.

    After Mark Baker’s tenacious reporting on Slater and Gordon, the firm has mis-stepped again. It’s gone to the Press Council with a complaint. If Slater and Gordon wanted to fire up its antagonists (I don’t mean Mark Baker, I mean his probable sources) it couldn’t have chosen a much better way to do it.

    In going to the Press Council to complain about Mark, Slater and Gordon stated a few things that it viewed as facts. One of them was this, a quote from Slater and Gordon’s managing director Mr Grech, “”Ms. Gillard acted directly for Mr. Blewitt in relation to a conveyancing matter.”

    Thank you Mr Grech. Ms Gillard was doing the lawyering for Mr Blewitt. She was the lawyer acting for him. The job was the conveyance of a property. She was responsible.

    He also notes that the final sitting week of parliament for 2012 starting 26 Nov is going to be intense (as this is the last date caucus is together before Feb 2013).

    Logically this is the last week that Rudd can move her. It sounds like it is going to be hard for McTiernan to crowd out all the tactical document drops in the coming days.

  106. candy

    I like the bit Bunyip wrote about michelle Grattan “setting aside her ear trumpet” …

  107. Andore Jr

    It sounds like it is going to be hard for McTiernan to crowd out all the tactical document drops in the coming days.

    If I was him, I would be putting it all into the biggest clusterbomb in the room – the Abbott=Catholic=Abuser – trying to keep that squarely on page 1 for the next couple of months.

    Why, I’d even call such an attack ‘relentlessly negative’.

  108. Carpe Jugulum

    If someone could help me with an excuse for buying plasticine

    Of course Pickles – i belive that you are hosting an introductory class in puppetry and that by using plasticine the participants are able to visually conceptualise the inherent nature and political empathy there puppets will take.

    The plasticine is a medium that allows the participants to ‘road test’ their work prior to its conception as an artistic creation to provide a gentle introduction to the body politic and the many methodds that activists may influence the public discourse by theatre.

    How did i go?

  109. Gab

    If I was him, I would be putting it all into the biggest clusterbomb in the room – the Abbott=Catholic=Abuser

    He’d just be following the Facebook, blogs and Twitter campaign that has been around since Abbott was made Opposition leader. He’s been called a paed0phile becuase of his religion; he’s been called a misogynist long before gillard made it the crux of her next election campaign platform; he’s been called homophobic and sexist relentlessly.

    labor’s latest is to call him a “douchebag” and a “bullshitter”.

    McTernan has a lot of competition.

  110. DaveF

    Not a peep from ABC radio. Checked the website which repeatedly informed that Abbott is a catholic and the Catholic Church is so awful it requires a Royal Commission into it’s misbehaviour.

    Cash in a brown paper bag? LOL this scandal gets better and better. I wonder how Gillard will look in her prison greens and Dunlop Volleys.

  111. Pickles

    Thanks Carp. Interspersed with a bit of giggling I’ll give it a run. She’ll probably just give me a tube of silastic like she did last time, then complain about her garden hose getting six inches shorter every few weeks or so.

  112. Jannie

    If someone could help me with an excuse for buying plasticine that would help. I don’t think the truth (me bong’s leaking like a bastard) will cut it.

    Go into your big sisters room, the Rolling Stones posters are attached by blue tac. You can carefully remove half of the blue tac and the posters stay stuck anyway, and your sister wont know youve been in her room. Its better than plasticine is blue tac.

  113. Token

    Not a peep from ABC radio. Checked the website which repeatedly informed that Abbott is a catholic and the Catholic Church is so awful it requires a Royal Commission into it’s misbehaviour.

    The people who campaigned hard to lure people to take treacherous journies via boat (and did everything they could to ignore/cover up the 1,000 or so deaths) are too busy as they’ve finally had their sectarian jihad against the Catholic Church legimised.

  114. Pickles

    That’s a grand plan. But I haven’t got a big sister.

  115. Carpe Jugulum

    But I haven’t got a big sister.

    My sister-in-law is available, and she is hot (not as hot as Lady Jugs) but you would have to commit to help with her house renovation.

  116. Max

    Abbott needs to get on the front foot on this, a general royal commission into Unions, propose new regulation for unions to make them competitive and regulated like public companies.

    This way Gillards “Misogyny” attacks and the latest go at Abbot via the Catholic church look reactive and all the more grubby.

  117. DaveF

    too busy as they’ve finally had their sectarian jihad against the Catholic Church legitimised.

    You’re not wrong Token. PM yesterday spent easy 30 mins on the Royal Commission and today its wall to wall coverage. They even found a Priest or two who don’t like the sanctity of the confessional, can’t be too many of them about.

    Pickles: tape it up mate or buy another orchy and be more careful cutting the hole.

  118. DaveF

    too busy as they’ve finally had their sectarian jihad against the Catholic Church legitimised.

    You’re not wrong Token. PM yesterday spent easy 30 mins on the Royal Commission and today its wall to wall coverage. They even found a Priest or two who don’t like the sanctity of the confessional, can’t be too many of them about.

    Pickles: tape it up mate or buy another orchy and be more careful cutting the hole.

  119. So, how do you know it wasn’t a case of Wilson on the phone to Julia – “I had a big win at the casino last night. I’m sorry about all the trouble with the reno – I’ll get $5000 into your account and that’ll square it all away.”?

    This would not, as far as I can tell, be inconsistent with her past statements.

    If Julia simply says “I repeat – I did not knowingly benefit from money from the fund”, and Wilson does not contradict her, you got nothin’.

  120. Infidel tiger

    You’re a dumb c@@t, Shitfer, but you’re a loyal dumb c@@t.

  121. C.L.

    Speaking of the Royal Commission, it’s looking more and more appalling how Slater & Gordon moved Gillard on to a new location.

  122. C.L.

    There was that odd statement of “personal” offense re abortion too. Mmm.

  123. DaveF

    Nice try SfB.

    Brown. Paper. Bag.

    Definitely legit.

  124. C.L.

    Another question: doesn’t the fact that Wilson had Gillard’s bank account number suggest there were other, earlier pay-offs?

  125. Infidel tiger

    Was the brown paper bag biodegradable?

  126. “Hello Julia. It’s just cash I got from the casino last night. What’s your account number and I’ll get someone to deposit it for you?”

  127. C.L.

    “I won it at the races, Your Honour.”

    - Robert Trimbole.

  128. DaveF

    Another question: doesn’t the fact that Wilson had Gillard’s bank account number suggest there were other, earlier pay-offs?

    She knew it was coming?

    I like the theory that the invoice hit the AWU and everything started blowing up so he said “Jules I’ll sling you 5 grand so you can pay it and it will all go away.” So she’d know it was coming.

    If that’s the case it seems likely the previous work had been paid by the BF.

  129. Gab

    Big Red had absolutely no way of knowing that $5000 had been deposited into her account. None whatsoever, Your Honour.

  130. Token

    “Hello Julia. It’s just cash I got from the casino last night. What’s your account number and I’ll get someone to deposit it for you?”

    “Oh yes, Julia as this is so legitimate we both know you will remember to keep good documentary evidence so no-one would think anything of this.”

  131. “Oh yes, Julia as this is so legitimate we both know you will remember to keep good documentary evidence so no-one would think anything of this.”

    Why would he say that if he had already said it was some of the money he’d won last night?

  132. Token

    “Yes, yes, I knww you are a partner at a law firm and you know to maintain the required standard, like you did in that little matter you wrote that letter for me to the WA government.”

  133. Token

    Why would he say that if he had already said it was some of the money he’d won last night?

    It is as plausable as your bit of creative writing.

  134. Token, if it a private payment from a boyfriend to his partner, there is no reason for it to be documented.

    Did you used to get notarised IOU’s from your girlfriends if they said they’d go halves in something, but found they didn’t have the money in the purse they thought they did?

  135. Gab

    Mark latham called, SFB, says you’re doing a sterling job.

  136. Andreas

    “Hello Julia. It’s just cash I got from the casino last night. What’s your account number and I’ll get someone to deposit it for you?”

    More like it was “Oh yeah, yeah, Julia, I had a big win at the casino last night *wink* *wink*”.

    According to Gillard’s version of events at some point she found out that Wilson had been lying to her and engaged in rampant fraud right under her (not-insubstantial) nose. In that circumstance why on earth would Julia believe he’d won the money at a casino when a grimier provenance is the more likely? And even if he did win it, what was the source of the money he was betting with?

    I don’t know the timing and what she knew at this point, but surely afterwards she must have had grave doubts about the source of that money. And yet, unless it’s in the redacted parts of the transcript, she made no mention of it when questioned about the possibility of her benefiting from the AWUWRA.

  137. Pickles

    I won that 5 ton at the dishlickers yer honer. Which meeting? Dapto. What race? Fifteen. Which dog? Thirteen. His name was Paleface Adios. Oliver rode it. I think the bookie was Waterhouse.

  138. Token

    Did you used to get notarised IOU’s from your girlfriends if they said they’d go halves in something, but found they didn’t have the money in the purse they thought they did

    SoB, when $5k hits my bank account as a lump. I leave a document trail no matter who gives it to me.

    One of my siblings worked for one of the Big 4 in Bus Banking in ’95 so I know that even then the tax office did traces for bit lumps hitting accounts.

    Now a young and naive partner at a law firm involved in industrial matters would know that…

  139. Gab

    “I’ve got $5k I won at the races. It’s all there, $10s and $20s. Have no idea what to do with it…I know, deposit it into Big Red’s bank account for safe keeping”.

  140. twostix

    I swear to god reading comprehension FAIL by Oakes, et-al.

    The whole casino line of spin is borne out of the failure to comprehend what was a joke made by “Bill the Greek”:

    “I am still holding this wad of cash in my hand. By this stage Bill (Telikostoglou, aka ‘Bill the Greek’) had walked into the room and he said some strange Greek thing about how I must have had better luck than he[Bill the Greek] did (at the casino) last night.

    None of the story has anything at all to do with a Casino. The spin that it was “winnings” is either displays incomprehensible window licking stupidity or mendacious duplicity.

    Here’s the reality:

    Gillard : Partner in a law firm whose major client was the AWU.

    Wilson: Head of an AWU branch.

    Wilson while at work, in his official capacity hands an underling a big fat pile of cash and tells him to deposit it into the personal bank account of a solicitor at the law firm who represents the Union, who just happens to quietly also be his girlfriend.

    Shortly there-after it becomes public knowledge that he has embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars with great helpings of allegedly “unknowing” help from said solicitor and girlfriend.

    Press Gallery and ALP lickspittles response? “Non story” “perhaps it was just casino winnings der-hur hur”, etc.

    An ALP hack and long time political enemy of Tony Abbott suddenly “remembers” that he once punched a wall near her 30+ years ago.
    Evidence? No.
    Eye witnesses? No.
    Statutory Declarations? No.

    Two weeks on the front page.

  141. Infidel tiger

    Any bloke knows the first rule of the punt is never tell the missus when you win. You always break even. Never win or lose.

  142. None of the story has anything at all to do with a Casino.

    Well, except for the part of the story in The Australian that reads:

    In interviews with The Australian, Mr Hem described how Mr Wilson had visited the new casino in Melbourne and looked severely dishevelled at work the next day when he asked Mr Hem to deposit the cash.

    Keep working away, Inspector Clueless.

  143. Pickles

    If they don’t know that the first rule of the knock shop is never use the Visa, then the rules of the punt are way too hard for them.

  144. Tom

    Come on, Dogshit. On your knees and beg and whimper: “Please don’t pick on Juwwiar, you meanies. She’s all I’ve got in my lonewwy empty wwife.”

  145. .

    Shut up Steve and respond to twostix. He has you hammered.

  146. Hem says he was asked to do the deposit the day after Wilson had been to the casino.

    Bill the Greek’s comment sounds as if he had been there with Wilson.

    This is a matter of plain ability to comprehend statements, instead of thinking you can “see through” everything to the secret meaning underneath.

  147. thefrollickingmole

    Im sure theres an innocent explanation.

    Maybe it was to cover her expenses when she went over to WA to convince the Miners to give up their burial fund to Wilsons slush fund.

    Isnt that a story in itself?

    She knew it was a slush fund. She said that herself.
    The miners were wary of signing over money from the burial fund. Fact
    Julia came to WA to allay the fears of the miners the money would be misused. Fact
    The money then went into the fund which Julia herself says was a slush fund (she believed was) for re-election expenses.

    She took money from a burial fund and knowingly misrepresented how that money was to be used.

    As best I read it all these are indisputable facts.
    How is that not a scandal?

  148. twostix

    In interviews with The Australian, Mr Hem described how Mr Wilson had visited the new casino in Melbourne and looked severely dishevelled at work the next day when he asked Mr Hem to deposit the cash.

    “Mr Hem” deposited over $100,000 into the slush fund for Wilson.

    Was Wilson at the casino the day before all of those transactions as well? The casino is an irrelevancy.

    “No your honour, that particular deposit was simply money legitimately won at the casino with my own hard earned money. No, no the other $100,000 was stolen but that $5000 in cash in an envelope that I got my underling to deposit into my girlfriends account was legitimately won with bets made from my very own pay cheque”

    You clown.

  149. Alan Moran

    Currency Lad
    “Another question: doesn’t the fact that Wilson had Gillard’s bank account number suggest there were other, earlier pay-offs?”

    Having done an extensive, structured survey of five respondants, I am yet to find one who has a record of their partner’s bank account number. Perhaps my survey is biased and everyone in the 1990s knew this information as readily as they knew phone numbers.

  150. boy on a bike

    I’ve had to wade through numerous government Codes of Conduct, and these days, they all say something along the lines of:

    “The APS integrity framework includes elements that have the effect of requiring employees to avoid actions which are or could be perceived to be corrupt

    It doesn’t matter any more if you aren’t actually corrupt – you can still get in the soup if you are perceived as being corrupt.

    The way the punters perceive Gillard’s actions is what counts. When I hear of cash being exchanged in envelopes, I always think of this video from the NSW Police Royal Commission – Chook Fowler counting the cash (2.40 mark). It simply smells fishy.

  151. duncan

    Steve,

    casinos and other betting places are a wonderful place to launder money.

    and by the way … it is irrelevant.

  152. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Shitfer:

    If Julia simply says “I repeat – I did not knowingly benefit from money from the fund”, and Wilson does not contradict her, you got nothin’.

    The truly delicious thing about this, Shitfer, is that it does not matter.

    What we are seeing is a carefully spun web of lies unravelling. This is the end of the early stage and the beginning of an accelerating collapse of the web of lies the Lying Slapper thought she had her gigantic arse covered with.

    There’s blood in the water now and lots of people chumming the sharks: more every week. Rudd’s cronies are alert, he’s looking to use a gutting knife to gralloch her alive then hang others with piano wire to watch them kick and squirm their political lives out as they void their bowels.

    It’s even starting to dawn on even the dullest journo (all Australian Bolshevik Collective fall into the ‘imbecilic’ category and have not worked this out yet) that whoever finally breaks Gillard will become the ‘famous journo who took a PM down’. They have serious skin in the game now and more every week. Tempting, so tempting.

    And this time of year is the killing season.

    What fun! I am enjoying this immensely.

  153. Gab

    And to think all the information being made public has all been done so by Big Red’s Labor and Union acolytes, past and present. Delicious irony that her side would do this.

  154. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Therein lieth many hoots of laughter, Gab!

    Hating haters gotta hate….. and no-one hates like the ALP.

  155. Tiny Dancer

    Stevieliar QC – prepare dinner

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  157. kae

    Ploughing through this….

    The police would have had access to Gillard’s bank account records including this transaction, and they did nothing. This is still a non-story.

    A cash deposit would be a cash deposit. A name might be on the form completed by the depositor for the deposit, maybe.

  158. kae

    Gab

    Oooooh, they love her, they do!

  159. twostix: I can’t follow your logic.

    I agree, going to the casino is irrelvant to the deposits totalling $100,000 that Hem made (over a period of time, it appears.) So what?

    Going to the casino is relevant as to a possible explanation for the source of the funds apparently deposited to Gillard’s account. (Assuming Hem’s memory is accurate, and he is not mixing up a deposit to Gillard’s firm’s account.)

    Hem says Wilson had been to the casino the night before he was asked to make a cash deposit to Gillard.

  160. kae

    The Government of Western Australia was ripped off. Who was the Premier at the time?
    If I understand the chronology – Carmen Lawrence (12 February 1990 to 16 February 1993)

    Oh, well she won’t remember anything.

  161. Gab

    Wish a partner would make $5000 deposits in my bank account[s].

  162. Tiny Dancer

    Thank goodness you came back to defend her.

  163. MT Isa Miner

    BOAB- nice video reference there- and see: no racism- the paper bag in Chook Fowler’s hand is white- although the colours are not good – they obviously weren’t using their Iphones.

  164. Gab

    PRIME Minister Julia Gillard says a new report alleging she received $5000 at the request of her former boyfriend and Australian Workers Union (AWU) official Bruce Wilson is unsubstantiated and part of a “smear campaign”.

    “This is smear,” Ms Gillard told reporters.

    “Pure and simple.”

    “There is not one substantiated allegation in today’s Australian,” the prime minister said.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/labor-mps-dismiss-fresh-awu-claims/story-e6frfku9-1226516400870#ixzz2CAr5UQaY

    How quickly will the Age, the SMH, the Herald Sun, the Telegraph and the AFR withdraw their reports on this?

  165. Gab

    Oh yeah, and AbbottAbbottAbbott.

    “Well I say to the leader of the opposition with this smear day after day, is this really getting on with the things that matter?”

  166. C.L.

    Steve doing more hand waving than Toscanini.

  167. C.L.

    “There is not one substantiated allegation in today’s Australian,” the prime minister said.

    Apart from the only one made – and it’s not an ‘allegation.’ It’s the bit about her receiving $5000 in a secret payment from a criminal who robbed Australian workers.

  168. Infidel tiger

    The vile woman just loves compounding lies. She’s now lying about Abbott being the source of her legal and fiscal irregularities.

    Why doesn’t she just say she earns the $5k on the game. No one would doubt that.

  169. candy

    There’s something icky about a married man giving $5,000 wad of cash in an evelope to another man to put in his “girlfriend’s” bank account.

  170. candy, we got the message about 18 months ago from you. You will never like Gillard because she has had relationships with a couple of married men, even though (as I have fruitlessly mentioned several times) it seems not to be in the public record what the exact status of the marriages were at the time.

    I’m not sure why you feel the need to keep telling us the same thing in 1000 variations.

  171. Megan

    I’m not sure why you feel the need to keep telling us the same thing in 1000 variations.

    Yeah, because that’s your usual modus operandi and you don’t want anyone else stealing your boring thunder.

  172. candy

    “I’m not sure why you feel the need to keep telling us the same thing in 1000 variations.”

    I’m sorry to have hurt your feelings Steve about her, I know you think highly of the PM, so I shan’t mention it again.

  173. Tiny Dancer

    Is that it Stevieliar QC? Very disappointing. Running out of steam?

  174. James in Melbourne

    Steve, you carried on about the Abbott wall-punching fantasy/repressed memory as though it was the smoking gun that would reveal him as unelectable.

    Yet, you are utterly blasé about the abyss of very real malfeasance that is opening up under the Droner from Altona, seeming to consider that the passing of time and some sort of statute of limitations renders it the equivalent of an unpaid parking ticket.

    Your selective outrage – if not outright hypocrisy – is laughable.

  175. JC

    There is not one substantiated allegation in today’s Australian,” the prime minister said.

    Apart from the only one made – and it’s not an ‘allegation.’ It’s the bit about her receiving $5000 in a secret payment from a criminal who robbed Australian workers.

    I swear, I thought is was Fat Boy making that comment until the last bit.

  176. Tal

    Well she didn’t spend that cash on shoes

  177. harrys on the boat

    candy, don’t let that worthless piece of shit dictate what you can and cannot comment. she’s an adulterous slag, so keep mentioning it.

  178. Steve, you carried on about the Abbott wall-punching fantasy/repressed memory as though it was the smoking gun that would reveal him as unelectable.

    Only in your mind, James.

    I actually said the original incident wasn’t that big a deal. Even Marr said that. What gave the story legs was the form of Abbott’s denial, because moving from “can’t remember that” to “what I meant was ‘can’t remember because it didn’t happen’” sounds too cute. This led to other people coming out backing up the accuser.

    The reality disconnect in this blog, where everyone thought it was outrageous that anyone could believe the accuser, was another reason to discuss the matter.

    Yet my position was always that the incident itself was no biggie, given his age and relative immaturity at the time.

    So, short story – you’re wrong. As per usual.

  179. candy, don’t let that worthless piece of shit dictate what you can and cannot comment.

    I doubt she was being serious, harry.

  180. harrys on the boat

    I didn’t think she was, but I got to call you a worthless piece of shit so it was worth the effort.

  181. Tom

    Candy, You’ll get on better with SfB if you’re a little bit trickier and slip in the occasional lie that makes him feel you’re just like him. As long as you’re upfront and honest, he has nowhere to go. The other males here just watch him (with waning astonishment) attacking the females on the premise that they’re weaker and will somehow falter. The PM’s only defender at the Cat is a whiny beta male coward that no-one respects. SfB is as cornered as the PM is. The lies are unravelling. Everyone in the ALP now knows she is a carcass. Even the trolls.

  182. JC

    There’s something icky about a married man giving $5,000 wad of cash in an evelope to another man to put in his “girlfriend’s” bank account.

    But just remember, Candy, it’s not like 5G in today’s money. It’s more like 8G today.

  183. Steve of Glasshouse

    Maybe Ms Gillard was the first victim of the infamous Nigerian scam! It was still a bit crude in those days as they paid out first…..

  184. Token

    Maybe Ms Gillard was the first victim of the infamous Nigerian scam! It was still a bit crude in those days as they paid out first…..

    Are you saying Wilson is Nigerian?

    To be honest, under the new one-drop-of-blood laws Lavarch implemented and Mordy enforced it would be dangerous for a white male who is straight and possibly married to say as much.

    That’s type of statement that is only safe if you are a lesbian Pakistani muslim who claims to be part of one of our indigenous communities.

  185. James in Melbourne

    What gave the story legs was the form of Abbott’s denial,

    Yet we’re supposed to believe the Chief Bogan’s somewhat-less-than-convincing squirming?

  186. Mk50 of Brisbane

    $5,000?

    Wonder how much a trick that was?

  187. Carpe Jugulum

    Steve doing more hand waving than Toscanini.

    And shrieking in an octave higher than Farinelli.

  188. Septimus

    Alas, another night working late – 3rd in a row, but probably the last one this week. A Stella Artois then dinner followed by a couple of glasses of a delicious South Australian Pinot Noir has set the mood and this should be maintained by some easy listening until midnight:

    Frank Sinatra ‘Ol’ Blue Eyes is Back’ album (now playing)
    Then, albums in order-
    Hans Zimmer ‘The House of the Spirits’ soundtrack
    Doug Ashdown ‘Winter in America’
    ‘The Thomas Crown Affair’ soundtrack
    ‘The Very Best of Christopher Cross’
    James Horner ‘Gorky Park’ soundtrack

    Better get to it I suppose, before some kind Cat soul tells me to ‘go away’ (or words to that effect).

  189. C.L.

    I see the Rodent tried her Outrageously! Outraged! trick again today – combined with the ‘I’ve answered it before’ trick. The cheeky reporter asked her if she meant “untrue” when she said “unsubstantiated” but she wouldn’t answer that either.

  190. Tintarella di Luna

    Mk50
    Loved your comment at 4.23pm. I love visiting this blog for the education — gralloching was not something I’d come across in my farming life (no much call for it in the veggie patch) but feel most enriched with the discovery of a new word and an excellent example of how to use it. Thanks

  191. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Hmm. Juliar was making the two-backed beast Wilson for what, four years? Assuming the usual average, that $5000 means he paid about eight bucks a trick.

    The unkind might think that’s kind of expensive given the quality of the product. The less unkind might say Wilson’s a cheapskate, bounder and cad – after all she was only in her 30s, young and naive.

  192. Sinclair Davidson

    Mk50 – c’mon – none of that.

  193. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Oh, OK, Doomlord. Snarky comment withdrawn with apologies to all and I’ll get back in my box. Edit/delete at will.

  194. DaveF

    Assuming the usual average

    I have no idea what the usual average might be. I know MY average but haven’t discussed it with many people. In fact none.

  195. Carpe Jugulum


    The Very Best of Christopher Cross’

    Septimus – move away from the stereo and put your hands in the air.

  196. .

    If you get lost from corporate HQ to the Sydney Ferry…oh well do not make eye contact with me either.

  197. Tiny Dancer

    Listen to me Carpe. You start bagging Christopher Cross and you start on the slippery slope.

    Next you will deny that Lionel Ritchie can dance on the ceiling. And then it’s all over.

  198. Septimus

    Heh heh. Haven’t got to Chris Cross yet. Currently on track 4 of Thomas Crown – looking forward to track 13 (the excellent piano work track).

    Coffee time now.

  199. .

    Lionel Ritchie, Prince, Billy Ocean and Luther Vandross were all better and more talented than MJ and had better artistic output.

    Plus they were less crazy.

  200. Septimus

    Track 13 ‘Thomas Crown Affair’ playing now. Wish I could play like that.

  201. kae

    Pfft

    Wouldn’t take much to be less crazy than MJ.

  202. kae

    Everyone’s less crazy than MJ.

  203. Septimus

    Chris Cross has just started playing Carpe. Don’t shoot.

    :)

  204. Look, I get that Snic is hesitant to ban anyone – open borders, big tent and all that – but Chris Cross? Really? Why not Barry Manilow next?

    Having liberal standards shouldn’t necessarily preclude having any standards, Doomlord. There has to be a line somewhere.

  205. Carpe Jugulum

    Chris Cross has just started playing Carpe. Don’t shoot.

    NNNNNNNnnnnnnoooooooooooo!!!!!

    For the love of god nnnnnoooooo.

  206. DaveF

    Cristopher Cross?

    OK.

    Raise you a Jack Johnson.

  207. I was behind an older gent at the Food Lion in Kill Devil Hills, when his windbreaker pocket suddenly started blaring forth “At the Copa, Copacabana…” It was his cellphone ringtone.

    Inexplicable and horrifying.

    If that sort of thing starts happening here, I’m gone. Fair warning.

  208. Carpe Jugulum

    Raise you a Jack Johnson.

    I’ll see your Jack Johnson and raise you, no, fvkit i’ll double down on a Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.

    Google that and weep beotches.

    I win, cash up.

  209. Carpe Jugulum

    Kenny G.

    Unnggghh

    Of course i could be wrong ;)

    Bugger – why didn’t i think of Uncle Kenny.

  210. Carpe Jugulum

    My Bet on Pamyu still stands.

  211. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Avantasia’s The Scarecrow, with a wee bit of Sinisterite (Doom Thrash is hammering now) and that leads to Oldfield’s Tubular Bells, then into the album Edwardian Woodward!

    genre and era mixing. It drives my kids nuts.

  212. Mk50 of Brisbane

    And oh my, have you heard Seventh Angel’s album ‘Lament for the Weary?’

  213. DaveF

    I’ll see your Jack Johnson and raise you, no, fvkit i’ll double down on a Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.

    Yep.

    Nomoto Karia locked and loaded on my iTune.

    Raise that.

  214. Carpe Jugulum

    Beat my bet oash up – i have the most cringeworthy music.

    Show me the money troops.

  215. Lloyd

    Too rich for my blood *heads explodes after watching youtube*

  216. Carpe Jugulum

    Nomoto Karia locked and loaded on my iTune.

    I’ll see that and raise you a Kusume Koharu,

    and i’ll back that up with a second helping of Kirarin Revolution.

    Pay up – i win.

  217. Septimus

    All right, all right. By popular request I have moved on to ‘Gorky Park’. Everybody ok with James Horner?

    Jack Johnson? Had to google that one DaveF – will listen to some samples on line later. Might be something like Ray La Montagne?

    sdog – that would have been really scary. Like the scene in Monsters Inc where the kid’s sock is on the monster’s back. Hope you’re ok now. Should have called 911.

  218. DaveF

    Oh christ. OK I owe you one internet.

  219. Lloyd

    James Horner? The dude who wrote the theme music for Battle Beyond the Stars?

  220. DaveF

    Septimus: J Johnson was donated by my sister in law.

    For the lady in your life who feels the Beatles a bit ‘raw’ buy her jack Johnson.

  221. Carpe Jugulum

    Ok – you are all so lucky i didn’t have to unleash AKB48 singing “Heavy Rotation”.

    We should move on while my pulse is low and my wife still talks to me.

  222. Ripper

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/labor-mps-dismiss-fresh-awu-claims/story-e6frfku9-1226516400870#ixzz2CAr5UQaY

    How quickly will the Age, the SMH, the Herald Sun, the Telegraph and the AFR withdraw their reports on this?

    It appears the link has been taken down

  223. Carpe Jugulum

    OK I owe you one internet.

    Could we haggle for 5 internets – after all i didn’t post AKB48 so fair is fair.

    Although i will settle for 3. ;)

  224. Septimus

    Well, that’s the end of work for the night. Too many more interesting musical things to look up now. Thanks folks.

    Janis Ian ‘Between the Lines’ playing now, but will probably switch to Pink Floyd’s ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ to calm down before bed.

  225. Septimus

    J

    ames Horner? The dude who wrote the theme music for Battle Beyond the Stars?

    That’s him Lloyd.

    BTW my apologies all. My accidental posting here seems to have distracted everyone from the thread’s more serious topic.

  226. Lazlo

    Mk50 – c’mon – none of that.

    Fair nuff. So what do you think the $5K was for?

  227. kae

    I have several Janis Ian albums.

    ***********

    I wonder if there will ever be a person with the title “Disgraced Ex-Prime Minister”?

  228. C.L.

    Hedley Thomas uncovers a new tangential scandal at The Age – involving that newspaper running dead on union corruption involving Julia Gillard’s boyfriend.

  229. Septimus

    BLEWITT TO TELL ALL

    Hopefully he is being constantly guarded.

  230. Scapula

    The end of the matter that never even began with any evidence:

    In September 1995, according to Mr Cambridge’s diary, he telephoned the AWU official and told him a journalist was preparing to publish a story alleging Mr Wilson and Bill Telikostoglou used union money on renovations at Ms Gillard’s house.

    He did not provide Mr Cambridge with any evidence to support the allegation.

    the Murdoch Mendax

  231. Tiny Dancer

    The lying slapper would be shitting herself.

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