Monday Forum: November 19, 2012

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  1. DaveF

    Asked the Taipan, she says ” yeh,ages ago, a model, not that Bingle thing though”
    The important stuff we miss by not reading the MFM ( Made for Female Media)

    That’s because it was a secret wedding.

    Michael Clarke has revealed that he married his girlfriend Kyly Boldy in a secret ceremony in Blue Mountains on Tuesday.

    Nice play on the MFM thing btw.

  2. jupes

    Gillard has no integrity, sorry, but I don’t expect that from a politician.

    That explains your support for Labor.

  3. Carpe Jugulum

    Gillard has no integrity, sorry, but I don’t expect that from a politician.

    So what do you expect scrappy, free stuff, a red dalek that lies, a minister who has a propensity for wearing red underpants on their head.

    Do enlighten the lumpenproles with your pearls of wisdom.

  4. Carpe Jugulum

    That’s because it was a secret wedding.

    I remember how Lady Jugs and i kept our wedding secret. Except for our families, Uncles, Aunts , Cousins and friends.

    But apart from them, totally secret. A pity most of them weren’t invited to our weddings.

  5. Alice

    Dot – the rich kids book is intersting. I downloaded on kindle.

  6. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Michael Clarke has revealed that he married his girlfriend Kyly Boldy …”

    I suppose marrying Kyly boldly is better than marrying her indifferently.

    And yet – a day later Clarke confirms his mediocrity by twittering to the world how it was just lovely and Kyly twitters right back how it was just lovely. Aaaaargghhhh!

  7. Megan

    The so-called journos on Paul Murray live have just admitted that they now understand this really complex and complicated scandal because Nick Styvant-Brown made it simple for them.

    FMD. I want my own TV journalist job…except I’m totally overqualified in that I have a working brain.

  8. Alice

    The labor party runs the right economic policies but they graft and rort on the way there and once there. The liberal party runs unhelpful economic policies that discriminate against the middle and poor becuse they mindlessly attack public services which help this cohort, but they dont rort as much on an individual level.

    So who wins for me with a better lifestyle, a better economy, more money in my pocket and less corruption in government?.

    Fucking hard call. Neither of the bastards.

  9. Alice

    So who will I vote for? I will vote to destabilise.

  10. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Wouldn’t any parent?

    You’d just die of shame, Nilk.

    Grrrr – foiled again! Gab is much younger and way quicker than me ….. but she knows that.

  11. Gab

    However, Mick is wiser and an excellent wordsmith. :)

  12. Gab

    PM faces new claims over union past

    A FORMER law-firm colleague of Prime Minister Julia Gillard says her version of the AWU mortgage scandal just doesn’t stack up…

    PRIME Minister Julia Gillard knew about a $150,000 Slater and Gordon mortgage for a property used by union fraudster Bruce Wilson more than two years before the date she admitted to knowing about it in an interview with the firm’s management, a former senior partner claims.

    In the latest revelation in the Australian Workers Union scandal, Nick Styant-Browne also revealed there was “deep disquiet” among S&G’s top-tier management about some of Ms Gillard’s conduct as a lawyer acting for the AWU.

  13. MDMConnell

    Colour me cynical but if even the ABC is covering the AWU scandal is probably means Gillard is about to be dumped.

    ABC only ever dumps on Labor leaders once they’re either terminal (NSW Labor) or gone (Latham, Rudd).

  14. Splatacrobat

    Jeez. Alice you sound like a fiscally conservative anarchist.
    If there is such a beast..

  15. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From dots link:

    “The 400-page conveyancing file also shows that Ms Gillard waived professional fees on the conveyancing and loan work, sought and received a detailed briefing on penalty interest provisions for the mortgage and forwarded a cheque from Mr Blewitt for costs associated with the purchase.

    Oh boy.”

    No twostix, not “Oh boy” at all.

    I watched to find out just how much Their ABC would stick with The Only True Truth. I was a bit surprised.

    At the end that mousy ABC woman said the pm-ette’s office had written a letter to Their ABC saying “She never didn’t do nothingk to arrange the mortgage interest insurance stuff.” That’s the bit where Styant-Browne referred to a letter (shown at Michael Smith’s site) from the bank addressed to her about the mortgage interest insurance stuff. Two years before she said she knew anything about it.

    That letter to Their ABC tonight means she has answered all possible questions about her involvement – can you not see that?

  16. entropy

    Yep, the ALP worked out they are dead meat with Gillard, but the problem is that the ALP would dead week old meat if there is a leadership challenge. Better to have her resign and get Kevni to save the day.

  17. Dying of shame sounds like a reasonable option, Gab, Mick. :)

    Other than that, I just had a look at one of my yahoo accounts to find out I’ve been hacked. Bugger. Last week my twitter acct was hacked and this week it’s yahoo. Well, one of them. I’ll have to check my other accounts now.

    So much for an early night.

  18. Scapula

    Gillard is a far better PM than Kevin ‘i’ve got a mental age of seven’. Its a pity she’s a right wingers wet dream, like Clinton, but you guys always want more.

  19. Alice

    Spat – is that what you would call me ? A fiscally coservative anarchist? FCA?

    Well then. I must be. Realy what do you do when you dont like either party enough and you want to take the bits you like from one party (and get rid of their bludging and cheating members) and keep the good fiscal managers from the other party and get rid of their idiots that wont provide any basic public goods? Im stuffed if I know.

    I swear I hate them both and have to believe that one day a party will come along who can get it all right and they are gonna just clean up the tribal divisions etc.

    I hate this left right blue lib labor divde. Both dont cut the mustard. We just want a government, not an economics lecture (and they are a bunch of lies anyway).

    Sounds OK. Am I the first member of this group? FCA?
    Good.

  20. Fisky

    Gillard has no integrity, sorry, but I don’t expect that from a politician.

    That’s almost of the time when, posting as “Febro”, you said that you didn’t care about union corruption, and then described your own opinion as “sad”.

  21. .

    Its a pity she’s a right wingers wet dream,

    I am a libertarian, not a right winger, but she founded a pro abortion group and is an ex communist.

    She’s about a dreamy as a fermenting pig turd on a warm summer’s day.

  22. Rousie

    Gillard’s concern will be reflected in the size of the distraction launched before parliament sits Monday.

    She’s used up her misogyny, royal commission, NDIS, MDB & oops about the boat people cards in quicktime.

    Going Gonski could be deliciously ironic…

  23. DaveF

    I’ve been going through the mortgage file and have noticed several items in 1993. The faxes from Comm Bank…but also a couple of hand written notes to “Julia” and “JEG”.

    It’s all been in the open and nobody (I’m looking at you Hedley Thomas) was excited till the ABC took an interest. I call shennanigans and the ABC running an agenda for someone.

  24. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Colour me cynical but if even the ABC is covering the AWU scandal is probably means Gillard is about to be dumped.

    ABC only ever dumps on Labor leaders once they’re either terminal (NSW Labor) or gone (Latham, Rudd).”

    Oh MDMConnell that was my thought tonight when the ABC newsreader Grade III girl failed to interrupt or bark at Styant-Browne.

    When I heard early in the week of the third incidence of pinched files I wrote at Michael Smith’s site how you feel like just sitting down and crying at the impossibility of nailing the mongrel. That is how I felt then, just flattened by the completeness of the cover up.

    Now it seems the week will end a lot better, and just a week away from her fronting the House and Julie Bishop in her excellent ascendancy.

    I feel bouyed by what I see now – this is not a hearing, judgement and gaoling but it is enough to stir disquiet among the superannuation conscious on her front and back bench, which will bubble throughout the festive season and that is a good thing. An excellent thing.

    I notice too that AbbottAbbottAbbott is wisely well distant from all of this.

    She could yet declare war on Nauru next Wednesday for failing in its international obligations to offer decent tourist facilities …

  25. Scapula

    Could you send along a copy of her CPA card?

  26. .

    I hate this left right blue lib labor divde. Both dont cut the mustard. We just want a government, not an economics lecture (and they are a bunch of lies anyway).

    Yep of course Alice. You came 11th out of a class of 3000 and have postgrad economics quals and teach it…but it’s all lies.

  27. Splatacrobat

    You can be el presidente Alice of the FCA. Either that or I suggest you try and resurrect Don Chipp and his Democrats. They were much like your two poles of policy preference .

  28. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “I call shennanigans and the ABC running an agenda for someone.”

    That too DaveF. Bloody delicious!

  29. entropy

    I agree, the faceless men want her gone. They want her to resign to avoid a challenge which, given 2010, they do not want to repeat. The ABC has permission. They are stenographers after all.

  30. Rousie

    Yeah I didn’t think about the possibility of invading a small Pacific island.

  31. Scapula

    What would you know, entropy, an orchestrated choir of ferals with a Seinfeld scandal is going to bring down a PM?

  32. Infidel Tiger

    I hate this left right blue lib labor divde.

    Only leftists say things like this.

  33. Gab

    Well if you’re so sure then why all the angst, Scrappy Doo Doo?

  34. DaveF

    Mick, entropy it takes me a while to think these things out but maybe that’s right.

    Damn the invasion of Nauru for UN Refugee Convention violations could be her out.

  35. candy

    “I hate this left right blue lib labor divde.”

    Alice, i’m thinking it’s been like that for yonks.

    However, it’s the corrupt ALP we have now that is seriously dividing the nation.

  36. Scapula

    Gillard’s group were CPA infiltrators of the ALP. As she is now

    The communist party was dissolved in 1991 and long before that it had become a spent intellectual and poltical force.

  37. .

    Gillard was not a student in 1991. She was losing files because she was still young and naive.

  38. That was a big bunch of nothing on 7.30. The guy clearly has an axe to grind, for some reason.

    What’s next in the never ending smear campaign that’s not alleging any illegality?

  39. Gab

    video and transcript of Nick Styant-Browne “interview” on 7.30 report

  40. Infidel Tiger

    Steve you know less about the law than you do the art of manliness.

    Scurry along now.

  41. Scapula

    Gillard loves America and is putting its troops on Australian soil.

    She loathes the Palestinians and supports Israel no matter what.

    The reform of Workchoices changed little and wages are shrinking, strikes are at all time lows and foreign workers flood into the country.

    Has the usual right wing loathing of state education as not being performance driven while she shovels money to private schools.

    Invented a mining tax that raises no revenue because she’s scared of the big end of town.

    The carbon tax is here only due to her need for alliances.

    And so one could go on, but ferals won’t be happy until the 47% are in concentrations camps.

  42. DaveF

    Gee Scapula that’s a great list. I reckon if you’d written it thoughtfully, maybe 5 hours ago, it might have been both witty and worth a response.

    But nice try.

  43. Scapula

    PM spokesperson says it all:

    Ms Gillard stands by her statements in the Slater and Gordon interview of 11 September 1995 as her best recollection of events two and a half years earlier.

    There is no contradiction in anything you have put to us. In addition, contrary to previous claims by you and The Age, the Prime Minister did not run nor was in charge of the conveyancing file – and as such couldn’t be expected to have a detailed recollection of the transactions in the file two and a half years after they occurred.

    In addition, the certificate of currency does not show that Ralph Blewitt was her “client” in relation to this conveyancing matter, as you allege, nor that the Commonwealth Bank was “her bank”, as you allege, nor that she personally sought confirmation of the insurance cover, as you allege.

    Given your recent history of publishing unsupportable claims on this matter, and having afterwards to correct them, it’s a pity The Age is again considering publishing allegations you can’t substantiate.

  44. twostix

    The communist party was dissolved in 1991 and long before that it had become a spent intellectual and poltical force.

    The CPA bequeathed it’s remaining funds to the shiny new Socialist Forum. And who was one of the founding members, and one of two paid employees of this “Socialist Forum” -the official financial successor to the CPA?

    Julia Gillard.

    Who become a ranking committee member of the Socialist Forum?

    Julia Gillard.

    Who never left the Socialist Forum and was still an active member when it merged with the Fabian Society in 2002?

    Julia Gillard.

  45. Tal

    Camps seem like a good idea

  46. .

    Yep. Concentration camps. This is what idiot lefties believe opposing their policies mean.

    What a hysterical bunch of drama hag queens.

  47. duncanm

    ‘no knowledge of the loan’ was a lie then and its a lie now.

  48. Scapula

    Gillard is even selling off residency for 5 million a pop:

    WEALTHY Asian business people are lining up for the federal government’s new ”golden visa”, which waives the usual criteria for skilled migrants – such as an ability to speak English – in exchange for a $5 million investment in Australia.

  49. .

    Crapula probably still believes Good Ol Boy Roger Rogerson woz innocent.

  50. Infidel tiger

    Roger may have been guilty at law but he was righteous.

  51. dd

    Gillard is even selling off residency for 5 million a pop:

    I agree with that policy. They could bring down the price tag to under 1 million though. It only costs half a mill to move to the US, so I don’t see why we’re charging 10 times the amount.

  52. entropy

    I think it’s time everyone should back off and leave poor Julia alone. I want her to go to an election, so in the words of Paul Keating, we can do her slowly.

    Although, come to think of it, that might open me to claims of Mysogeneee!

  53. SteveC

    The best sign to me that Gillard has nothing to worry about is that Catallaxians thinks she does. I predict the Catallaxian predictions of her demise will be as accurate as the rolled gold Catallaxian predictions of Obama’s demise.

  54. Tintarella di Luna

    I think Ms Gillard is Wallby Ted’s cousin now, well and truly. Dotcha just love it!!!!

    Leigh Sales almost blinked her fake straight eyelashes off and by the end of the interview those thin mean lips of hers had almost disappeared.

  55. .

    The best sign to me that Gillard has nothing to worry about is that Catallaxians thinks she does. I predict the Catallaxian predictions of her demise will be as accurate as the rolled gold Catallaxian predictions of Obama’s demise.

    The stupid bitch has committed tax evasion and common fraud. I predicted Obama may lose before Hurrican Sandy, by a small margin.

    Gillard will spend two to ten at Bandyup. This has you worried, Steve C.

  56. JC

    Question SteveC

    What evidence would you need that the current prime minister is a crook? At what point would you give up on her?

  57. Scapula

    I agree with that policy. They could bring down the price tag to under 1 million though. It only costs half a mill to move to the US, so I don’t see why we’re charging 10 times the amount.

    So the only difference between the Gillard Government and people smugglers is that the former charges too much!

  58. DaveF

    Well I don’t think anyone in Australia thinks Fed Labor can win the next election.

    two to ten at Bandyup

    Thats the one in Melbourne is it?

    It’s Emu Plains in Sydney. They teach hairdressing and waitressing.

  59. Scapula

    The stupid bitch has committed tax evasion and common fraud. I predicted Obama may lose before Hurrican Sandy, by a small margin.

    Blown away by global warming, then?

  60. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Crapulon the racist and anti-semite’s arguments on this thread to date:

    Jewish… Jews… Jews… Jews… Jewish… Hitler… Jews..

  61. Infidel tiger

    I doubt Gillard will be imprisoned but I will be staggered if they can find an ankle bracelet that fits her for her upcoming house arrest.

  62. John Mc

    You mean a cankle bracelet?

  63. dd

    So the only difference between the Gillard Government and people smugglers is that the former charges too much!

    Scapula, I know you’re being sarcastic but honestly, this is one way to kill the people smuggling stone dead: provide ‘paid’ immigration places.

    There are lots of differences between the two, not just the price tag. One difference is, well, as Howard said, “we decide” rather than people smugglers decide. We get to check them out and refuse anyone we don’t like. If too many are coming, we can slow it down or cap it or stop it.

    Also, people who can afford to pay their way won’t be a burden on government finances. If they’re business people willing to invest, that brings so many pluses that I don’t know even where to start.

  64. Scapula

    Mk 50 – you’ve been following Murdoch’s tweets I see.

  65. candy

    “What evidence would you need that the current prime minister is a crook? At what point would you give up on her?”

    JC, they love her no matter what

  66. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “I want her to go to an election, so in the words of Paul Keating, we can do her slowly.”

    I’m a bit the same entropy. i want the witch to suffer, personally suffer.

    It’s the next bit that is of concern … the resurrection of Comrade Dear Leader (in exile), Rudd of Tripoli. It’s hard to imagine but they’ll be desperate to field an electoral winner and it seems there are plenty of fools who think the meglomaniacal Nambour narcissist is “not all that bad”.

    I’d hope they’d instal Comrade Short Billy. Framing a re-election campaign around a small small men’s grey cardigan will be difficult.

  67. DaveF

    150k euro house will buy you a passport in Spain.

    That’s $200k in our money.

    New policy from this week. Think about it Cats, an EU passport and a holiday house.

  68. JC

    Gillard will spend two to ten at Bandyup. This has you worried, Steve C.

    One of the US federal prisons for females is also known as Camp Cupcake.

    It’s in Alderson West Virginia.

    Could we send the lying slapper there?

  69. JC

    I think Martha Stewart spent time in Camp Cupcake

  70. James in Melbourne

    What’s next in the never ending smear campaign that’s not alleging any illegality?

    Steve, you do realise, I presume, that running this line precludes you from criticising any Coalition politician ever again? Because if you really believe there is nothing to see here, move on everyone, you could not have the bare-faced hypocrisy to adopt your typical effete faux-outrage at the doings and utterings – past, present and future – of Coalition politicians.

  71. Scapula

    Come off it, these citizenship for cash deals always end up with scams and people seeing Australia as a bolt hole if things turn bad in the PRC.

    And then ferals around here rant about multiculturalism and insist on citizenship tests when these entrants don’t even need to speak English.

  72. Gab

    Why burden the Americans further? They already have Obama.

  73. John Mc

    Gillard is a far better PM than Kevin ‘i’ve got a mental age of seven’. Its a pity she’s a right wingers wet dream, like Clinton, but you guys always want more.

    KRudd is the right-wingers dream. I would vote for that man if I thought I could see him in the top job again. Flailing hopelessly while his world crashed around him, mumbling ten-minute responses to questions no one can understand, making those around him embarrassed for him, until he’s finally knifed and never spoken of again. It would be the funniest fortnight in the nation’s history.

  74. Splatacrobat

    Long Road

    Eddie Vedder with Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

  75. Mk50 of Brisbane

    No actually, Crapulon, you Jew-baiting racist filthball. Just got in from far west and saw this thread and wondered if an anti-semitic scumbag like you would be drawn irrisistibly towards the topic of Jews given current affairs.

    So did a Control-F and voila. There was you obsessing about Jews and Hitler.

    Again.

  76. SteveC

    Any evidence at all, JC.

  77. JC

    They teach hairdressing and waitressing.

    The hairdressing thing could work. I couldn’t imagine her as wait staff because of her terrible locution. There’s a Tony&Guy Salon chain..

    I guess Tim&Julia could be catchy too.

  78. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “… until he’s finally knifed and never spoken of again. It would be the funniest fortnight in the nation’s history.”

    Comedy gold John Mc.

  79. JC

    Why burden the Americans further? They already have Obama.

    Well she wouldn’t cause that much damage in Camp Cupcake, Gabs.

    The Kenyan could go and visit her there.

  80. JC

    Any evidence at all, JC.

    Stop being an evasive dickhead and answer the question honestly, SteveC.

  81. Scapula

    Read some Oxfam, mk50, and curb your enthusiasm:

    We cannot return to business as usual. For five years, Gaza has been subject to a crippling blockade, which has restricted what it can import and export and destroyed its economy. Since the blockade started, a third of Gaza’s businesses have closed and 80% of its population now needs aid to get by.

    The international community needs to be courageous. Only by lifting the blockade, do we have any chance of ending the incessant cycle of violence that has devastated millions of lives. The international community’s two-state solution will be impossible to achieve while the blockade continues and Palestinians remain divided between Gaza and the West Bank.

  82. DaveF

    The Spanish holiday home story.

    Spain is to offer automatic residency to wealthy foreign property buyers in an attempt to lure Chinese and Russians to reduce its huge stockpile of 750,000 unsold properties.

    Buyers who acquire a home worth €160,000 or more will get a residency permit

  83. H B Bear

    $200,000 to avoid the Customs queues at Heathrow sounds like a pretty good deal.

  84. Cold-Hands

    Gillard’s concern will be reflected in the size of the distraction launched before parliament sits Monday.

    I think not even invading Nauru would be enough… How about New Zealand?

    Ah, got it. The Red Dalek will announce her impending nuptials to Gold Coast spiv Tim Mathieson and will auction the photo rights to the highest bidding woman’s magazine. All the proceeds will go towards the Keep-Julia-out-of-the-Big-House Fighting Fund.

  85. Gab

    Funny. They have no problems getting past the blockade when it comes to rockets and such.

  86. SteveC

    Jc, that is an honest answer. There is no evidence. There are statements by an admitted fraudster, which contradict the PM. That’s not credible evidence. There are also statements by Styant-Brown who didn’t agree with the assesment of the reasons for Gillards departure from S&G. There is nothing new there.

    So there is no evidence of any wrongdoing.

  87. JC

    Splat

    Eddie had Mark Seymour on stage playing “Throw your arms around me”. I reckon Eddie does it better.

    Here.

    (I didn’t know eddie was going bald.)

  88. Sinclair Davidson

    I have opened up a new open forum.

  89. JC

    StevEC

    What would it take you to admit the Slapper is a crook?

    If that little prick, Ralph Blewitt doesn’t sound credible the former partner does.

    She resigned because she had to and it’s on the transcript, you delusional asshat.

  90. SteveC

    What crime is Styant-Brown alleging?

  91. DaveF

    Gee Scapula.

    Read some Oxfam

    Absolutely corrupted lobby group. In their report did they mention the Hamas ‘winners’ of the election were as honest as, I dunno, a PLO team doing “free and fair”?

    After winning they almost immediately started supporting ‘activists’ to enter Israel for destruction.

    So the border was closed.

    The story is not as simple as this but as a guy who thinks Israel needs to give a bit more I think this one is close to black and white.

    Rocketing schools moves my judgement meter mate.

  92. JC

    What crime is Styant-Brown alleging?

    He didn’t allege any crimes. In fact he was quite specific about that. However what he did do was give an account of the slapper’s departure and the circumstances surrounding that. It doesn’t appear to have been pretty.

  93. Cold-Hands

    So there is no evidence of any wrongdoing.

    Except for all the documents that prove that Gillard ‘mispoke’.

  94. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Gab, Crapulon’s just saying that is arab terrorists in Gaza could just kill more Jews, he’d be so happy.

  95. twostix

    Any evidence at all.

    There is no evidence

    there is no evidence

    I give you this coming weeks media line.

    So Gillards camp has fallen back from ignoring the matter to “I’ve already dealt with that matter” to “I’ve answered all of those questions” to “this is a smear” to “there is no evidence”.

    Quite the retreat.

  96. Scapula

    Gaza was emptied of Israelis and the space blockaded to create a ghetto that Israel could police with interminable rockets and gunfire.

  97. nic

    There’s more evidence than of Abbott’s alleged wall punching.

  98. DaveF

    Gaza was emptied of Israelis and the space blockaded to create a ghetto that Israel could police with interminable rockets and gunfire.

    And why did they do that?

  99. DaveF

    I’m on the next open thread anyway

  100. Mk50 of Brisbane

    So Crapulon … blames the Jews for leaving gaza now.

    But Crapulon you disgusting racist dirtbag, you leftards insisted that the instant the Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos left Gaza, unicorns would gambol in the fairy-floss fields and hey presto, it would be proven to the world that it was always the Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos causing the problems and never the poor innocent pallies.

    That was in 2005. Remember it well.

    Did not turn out that way did it, you terrorist fellating loser?

    The first rocket was fired into Sderot less than two hours after gaza became all theirs.

    You’d love that, eh?

  101. Scapula

    Gaza is not theirs. Its occupied by Israel.

  102. Mk50 of Brisbane

    How DO they manage that, racist, without any people in Gaza?

    Magic Jewish astral projection?

  103. JC

    Gaza is not theirs. Its occupied by Israel.

    Why would they want that shithole, Bob?

  104. Scapula

    Its useful as a prison for stateless people.

  105. JC

    So you’re saying they occupy it, spend millions and millions doing so to run as a prison?

    You irrational lardball, Bob, it doesn’t make any sense at all.

  106. Scapula

    Austalia has many islands without Australians living on them, but they’re still occupied by Australia.

  107. JC

    Bob,

    Try and give and rational answer.

    Your example doesn’t make any sense. By your own account those islands are populated. Gaza is populated. Therefore you need to explain the rationale as to why Israel would bother.

  108. Gab

    stop upsetting sacrappy. you’re making him frantic like a two-legged toad on a highway in FNQ.

  109. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Crapulon you pathetic anti-semitic scumbag, gaza was deliberately set up as a trial for ‘palestine’, to see if those barbarian scum could (with vast EU aid) actually run their own state.

    To no-one’s surprise, they can’t. Utterly incapable of it. Gaza has proven to the world that they are simply savages. All they had to do was to govern themselves properly, develop the functioning agricultural high-value industries US Jews purchased for them and handed over to them intact , and generally deport themselves like civilised human beings.

    What a sick joke that idea turned out to be.

    Fat chance that was ever going to happen. They are barbarian savages and they acted like it in 2005. The funtioning businesses were looted and burned. More important to them (and you) was killing Jews.

    You are just angry that they failed to kill enough Jews, and that they proved well able to defend themselves, aren’t you?

  110. .

    The Jews invented Soda Stream, Hamas invented Farfour the Mouse.

  111. Scapula

    Its a prison under Israeli control and hence under international law it is still occupied by Israeli.

    Does anyone think the Warsaw Ghetto wasn’t under Nazi occupation?

  112. Mk50 of Brisbane

    And her’e yer proof that arab muslims are kinda low on the ‘civilised people’ table, compared to Jews (barbarians don’t do research):

    Arab/Islamic Nobel Prize Winners
    From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world’s population (2 out of every 10 people)

    Literature
    1988 – Najib Mahfooz
    Peace
    1978 – Anwar El-Sadat
    1994 – Yasser Arafat *
    2003 – Shirin Ebadi
    Chemistry
    1999 – Ahmed Zewail
    Physics
    Abdus Salam

    * NOTE: Norwegian, Kaare Kristiansen, was a member of the Nobel Committee. He resigned in 1994 to protest the awarding of a Nobel “Peace Prize” to Yasser Arafat, whom he correctly labeled a “terrorist.”
    Jewish Nobel Prize Winners
    From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World’s Population (2 out of every 1,000 people)

    Literature
    1910 – Paul Heyse
    1927 – Henri Bergson
    1958 – Boris Pasternak
    1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon
    1966 – Nelly Sachs
    1976 – Saul Bellow
    1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer
    1981 – Elias Canetti
    1987 – Joseph Brodsky
    1991 – Nadine Gordimer
    2002 – Imre Kertesz
    World Peace
    1911 – Alfred Fried
    1911 – Tobias Asser
    1968 – Rene Cassin
    1973 – Henry Kissinger
    1978 – Menachem Begin
    1986 – Elie Wiesel
    1994 – Shimon Peres
    1994 – Yitzhak Rabin
    1995 – Joseph Rotblat
    Chemistry
    1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer
    1906 – Henri Moissan
    1910 – Otto Wallach
    1915 – Richard Willstaetter
    1918 – Fritz Haber
    1943 – George Charles de Hevesy
    1961 – Melvin Calvin
    1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz
    1972 – William Howard Stein
    1972 – C.B. Anfinsen
    1977 – Ilya Prigogine
    1979 – Herbert Charles Brown
    1980 – Paul Berg
    1980 – Walter Gilbert
    1981 – Ronald Hoffmann
    1982 – Aaron Klug
    1985 – Herbert A. Hauptman
    1985 – Jerome Karle
    1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach
    1988 – Robert Huber
    1989 – Sidney Altman
    1992 – Rudolph Marcus
    1998 – Walter Kohn
    2000 – Alan J. Heeger
    2004 – Irwin Rose
    2004 – Avram Hershko
    2004 – Aaron Ciechanover
    Economics
    1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson
    1971 – Simon Kuznets
    1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow
    1973 – Wassily Leontief
    1975 – Leonid Kantorovich
    1976 – Milton Friedman
    1978 – Herbert A. Simon
    1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein
    1985 – Franco Modigliani
    1987 – Robert M. Solow
    1990 – Harry Markowitz
    1990 – Merton Miller
    1992 – Gary Becker
    1993 – Rober Fogel
    1994 – John Harsanyi
    1994 – Reinhard Selten
    1997 – Robert Merton
    1997 – Myron Scholes
    2001 – George Akerlof
    2001 – Joseph Stiglitz
    2002 – Daniel Kahneman
    2005 – Robert (Israel) Aumann
    Medicine
    1908 – Elie Metchnikoff
    1908 – Paul Erlich
    1914 – Robert Barany
    1922 – Otto Meyerhof
    1930 – Karl Landsteiner
    1931 – Otto Warburg
    1936 – Otto Loewi
    1944 – Joseph Erlanger
    1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser
    1945 – Ernst Boris Chain
    1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller
    1950 – Tadeus Reichstein
    1952 – Selman Abraham Waksman
    1953 – Hans Krebs
    1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann
    1958 – Joshua Lederberg
    1959 – Arthur Kornberg
    1964 – Konrad Bloch
    1965 – Francois Jacob
    1965 – Andre Lwoff
    1967 – George Wald
    1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg
    1969 – Salvador Luria
    1970 – Julius Axelrod
    1970 – Sir Bernard Katz
    1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelman
    1975 – David Baltimore
    1975 – Howard Martin Temin
    1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg
    1977 – Rosalyn Sussman Yalow
    1977 – Andrew V. Schally
    1978 – Daniel Nathans
    1980 – Baruj Benacerraf
    1984 – Cesar Milstein
    1985 – Michael Stuart Brown
    1985 – Joseph L. Goldstein
    1986 – Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
    1988 – Gertrude Elion
    1989 – Harold Varmus
    1991 – Erwin Neher
    1991 – Bert Sakmann
    1993 – Richard J. Roberts
    1993 – Phillip Sharp
    1994 – Alfred Gilman
    1994 – Martin Rodbell
    1995 – Edward B. Lewis
    1997 – Stanley B. Prusiner
    1998 – Robert F. Furchgott
    2000 – Eric R. Kandel
    2002 – Sydney Brenner
    2002 – Robert H. Horvitz
    Physics
    1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson
    1908 – Gabriel Lippmann
    1921 – Albert Einstein
    1922 – Niels Bohr
    1925 – James Franck
    1925 – Gustav Hertz
    1943 – Gustav Stern
    1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi
    1945 – Wolfgang Pauli
    1952 – Felix Bloch
    1954 – Max Born
    1958 – Igor Tamm
    1958 – Il’ja Mikhailovich
    1958 – Igor Yevgenyevich
    1959 – Emilio Segre
    1960 – Donald A. Glaser
    1961 – Robert Hofstadter
    1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau
    1963 – Eugene P. Wigner
    1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman
    1965 – Julian Schwinger
    1967 – Hans Albrecht Bethe
    1969 – Murray Gell-Mann
    1971 – Dennis Gabor
    1972 – Leon N. Cooper
    1973 – Brian David Josephson
    1975 – Benjamin Mottleson
    1976 – Burton Richter
    1978 – Arno Allan Penzias
    1978 – Peter L Kapitza
    1979 – Stephen Weinberg
    1979 – Sheldon Glashow
    1988 – Leon Lederman
    1988 – Melvin Schwartz
    1988 – Jack Steinberger
    1990 – Jerome Friedman
    1992 – Georges Charpak
    1995 – Martin Perl
    1995 – Frederick Reines
    1996 – David M. Lee
    1996 – Douglas D. Osheroff
    1997 – Claude Cohen-Tannoudji
    2000 – Zhores I. Alferov
    2003 – Vitaly Ginsburg
    2003 – Alexei Abrikosov
    After reviewing this list, can you supply a reason for the large discrepancy between the Arab/Islamic population’s contribution to the world body and that of the Jew? There are 165 Jews listed as opposed to 6 from the Arab side.

  113. Gab

    Oh here we go, Scrapula is now equating the Jews with Nazis. Typical. That greenfilth Rhiannon’s little mate.

  114. JC

    The Jews invented Soda Stream, Hamas invented Farfour the Mouse.

    Bob’s inner Max Screem is coming out again. The fat Jew hating asshat just can’t help it.

  115. Gab

    Its a prison under Israeli control

    That’s the most stupid remark you’ve made to date and you’ve made scores of useless dumb remarks.

    Under control? If it were under control of the Israelis they’d be prosperous and not firing rockets at Israel, you dumbo.

  116. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Oh, and Crapulon, you racist vermin, under international law, if it is self-governing and free of any foreign military personnel inside its biorder (which gaza is and has been since 2005) then it’s independent.

    As it was set up to be in 2005.

    Fact and history trumps your vile ant-semitism and pathetic fabulism.

    Try education, you squalid intellectually crippled ill-bred boorish racist scumbag. It might do you some good.

    Naah. No amount of education can help a racist piece of filth like you.

    Unlike you, I havea job I have to attend to tomorrow. So while you use your Mum’s cooking oil to enhance your self-pleasuring as you watch the beheading of Daniel Pearl for the 956th time, I’m racking in.

    happy monkey-spanking, you foul little two-inch racist.

  117. Scapula

    Your definition is incorrect.

  118. dover_beach

    Which you know goes directly against Church teaching. Obviously you have reasoned your way into what you find acceptable for secular laws.

    I set out a lesser of two evils given our current laws regarding abortion. I’m not setting out what I find best so far as the secular law is concerned but a way-point to what I would prefer given the moral evil I believe abortion to constitute.

    For you to carry on that all of those who have reasoned their way to a different conclusion are as bad as Singer is just being a ninny.

    You seem determined to misunderstand me. I have no idea what your starting premises are regarding the status of the child, but it seems to me to be similar to Singer’s given the arguments you entertain. If this is not the case, you need to reconsider your chain of reasoning. Singer is at least consistent with his premises even though you believe his conclusions to be “bad”.

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