Voting for revenge – Australian style

A very interesting article by Paul Kelly and expanded on by Andrew Bolt. The real Julia is a far left socialist filled with anger at the ways in which she has been treated by who knows who. She has, moreover, discovered there are no votes in good policy aimed at making Australia a better place. She now builds a constituency around a shared sense of resentment supplemented by taxpayer funded handouts of every description. From Bolt:

Abbott is now struggling to respond to Gillard’s screams of ‘sexism’ ‘smear’, ‘slime’ and ‘negative’ – with the disengaged, especially women, drawn in by the yelling and, with no context to guide them, taking Gillard’s description of events at face value. Yes, Abbott must have been attacking her just for being a woman. Yes, he must not have evidence for his ‘smears’. When did we last have Prime Ministers who’d say with such certainty what was not true?

Gillard has also taken the Obama playbook to pitch to identity groups and the great masses of welfarists. The handouts – largely funded by borrowings and taxes now found to raise no revenue – have been extraordinary, from cash splashes to extra payments just for having children at school.

It’s brought her back from the dead. A Prime Minister who does not deserve to win and should be excoriated for her deceits, policy disasters and divisiveness is now back in the contest.

There is plenty of identity politics out there and the national interest be damned. It is the beginning of the end in the new world being created before our eyes, both here and in the US.

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54 Responses to Voting for revenge – Australian style

  1. Greg P.

    It is the beginning of the end in the new world being created before our eyes, both here and in the US.

    Exactly. We don’t have the racial divide they have there, yet, though.

    So it shall be winners vs. losers for the time being. Not that the left will frame it as such, more who vs. whom.

    Everyone must pick a side.

  2. Amfortas

    “Ideologiesaren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.”

    Says Democrat political consultant extraordinaire – and former Bill Clinton campaign manager, James Carville

    “The Democratic (Labor) constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattleprod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

    Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality.

    What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.

    The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.

    Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”

    Read more: http://clashdaily.com/2012/11/james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-are-politically-clueless/#ixzz2DmpEj6ln

  3. wreckage

    I think it’s more that the emotional-group-community thinking that the Left have relatively recently gained command of is easier to manipulate. The flipside is that if people realise you’ve manipulated them, you are in their black-books forever.

    The perception of betrayal was a big part of JoHo’s loss, the media, unwittingly IMO, really helped create that with their run of “The PM we all love” guff late in the piece. A PM loved is way more vulnerable to blow-back than a PM grudgingly acknowledged as exceptionally capable.

    The other bit of psychology, and more important right now in Oz, is that different ways people react to male and female characters in the same part in the same narrative. A male PM would be finished by now. Female not so. I don’t think either reaction is righter or wronger, so to speak, but you need to know that the difference is there.

    It is the beginning of the end in the new world being created before our eyes, both here and in the US.

    Look, no disrespect, but balls. What’s different? Aus was run by outright, ardent Communists not so long ago, rather than a PM who loudly claims to not be even Socialist.

    Corruption if anything is far less horrible a problem than it was in the 70′s. The union movement has abandoned outright Marxism altogether, and no longer controls the workplace anyhow. There’s more and freer international trade than ever in history.

  4. JC

    Wreckage:

    It’s about getting to the loot these days. The problem with this like all other times is that socialism is expensive and the money will eventually run out.

    There’s going to be 20 years of this before we move to the right again I think.

  5. John Mc

    Four things we now know about Julia:

    1. She’s ideologically of the hard-left. Perhaps never a revolutionary, but definitely to the left of the average labour movement unionist. Her ideology is never going to be about productivity, or industry or even worker’s take-home pay; it’s gong to be about tax and redistribution.

    2. She was willing to be sufficiently deceptive as a lawyer to facilitate the misappropriation of union members funds. Whether she regrets this, or left enough evidence to prove a crime, or was “young and naive” is to be determined, but the evidence is overwhelming that she did it.

    3. She is more than happy to sleep with married men, even if they are very much married with families.

    4. She lies whenever she needs to, whether in her early days as a lawyer, or when trying to form government as a potential PM, or when avoiding inconvenient questions about her past.

  6. 1735103

    Don’t say we weren’t warned. Prior to the 2007 election, the Coalition said clearly that the risk of Gillard taking over would be a shift to the left. Labor attacked that by saying Rudd was Howard-light and don’t worry.

    In 2007 Gillard was unelectable. She got power by stabbing Rudd in the back. Once in, it is difficult to remove her.

  7. 1735103

    PS: If Gillard was ‘young and naive’ as a partner in Slater & Gordon, did her clients get a refund? If they paid for a partner-level legal service it is hard to imagine it being delivered by someone ‘young and naive’.

  8. Oblique

    At least part of the problem is that our Parliament is broken. We have a bullied impotent compliant Speaker who cannot control QT. How many questions did the slapper answer in all QT sessions last week? Why were’t the rules enforced? Each time she was asked, even direct yes or no, questions gave Gillard an opportunity to ply her craft. This extra time was filled with the now predictable vile faux outrage as she reinforced the poison she sprays every time she opens her mouth. Not a single question from the Opposition was answered satisfactorily.

    I have no doubt that Gillard holds Australia and its people in contempt. Backed up by Fabian socialist principles, her grand plan is to fundamentally transform this country (just like BHO – and thank god she hasn’t used that phrase, yet). Unfortunately, this arrogance is not without cost.

    Our highest official forum for social, economic and political debate, with its foundations in transparency and accountability is no longer an effective mechanism to hold our elected officials to account. I agree that we are entering very dangerous territory in terms of our economic and social future, made all the more uncertain because we the people cannot get straight answers for almost every issue. We count the diabolical failures, unfunded grand plans and the nation’s mounting debt. All the while Gillard’s power grows and a conflicted and divided electorate becomes angry and frustrated as they take their sides.

    While Gillard is not the only one, she spawns a deadly vicious seed that feels the beginnings of a dictatorship and the end of a democracy. Because we are not getting satisfaction from the institution that is meant to bind us together, sworn enemies, the slapper-besotted MSM and an increasingly suspicious blogosphere, fight over toxic non-message morsels.

  9. Abu Chowdah

    I believe the Carville quote is a hoax.

  10. Rabz

    It’s brought her back from the dead.

    Garbage. Electorally, she’s a walking corpse.

  11. We’re in trouble as long as the stupid and lazy vote. The left have encouraged this, not least by encouraging stupidity and laziness; but also by lowering the age for the vote. We still hear a push from time to time from the left to lower it to 16.

    Why not push back the other way, by making the vote non compulsory, and make a vote for the senate only for Australian born tax payers.

    Big ask I know, but as with the left, start with an ambit claim and keep pushing.

  12. Eddystone

    Oblique
    2 Dec 12 at 4:14 am

    her grand plan is to fundamentally transform this country (just like BHO – and thank god she hasn’t used that phrase, yet).

    I’m pretty sure she said her aim was to change what it meant to be Australian, or to change the way Australians thought about themselves.

    It was a fair while ago, and I can’t find a reference, but I remember being shocked when I read it, so I don’t think its a false memory.

    Anyone else remember it?

  13. Tel

    The real Julia is a far left socialist filled with anger at the ways in which she has been treated by who knows who. She has, moreover, discovered there are no votes in good policy aimed at making Australia a better place.

    I think it is more accurate to say that a lot of Australians honestly believe that socialism does make Australia a better place. People in Canberra who think they can do a better job of living your life than you can yourself, put together with people who see it as their opportunity to get something (like the NBN for example). With the NBN they can not only feel that they are getting something but also feel magnanimous about giving to someone else, and simultaneously feel like a clever businessman because they were told it’s all going to pay for itself (and make a profit for investors).

  14. Mike of Marion

    IMHO, I reckon every available resource in the ALP is geared to ‘enlighten’ all the recent assylum seekers (AS) that the ALP can be the ‘only government to support them.’
    I’m sure the AEC will be ‘requested’ to ensure all recent AS are enrolled.
    On Polling Day, all the AS will be bussed to the Polling Booths and ‘assisted’ to complete the AS Ballot Paper.
    (A plea by any person for assistance to complete a Ballot Paper may be granted by Booth Officials.

  15. The incompetent liar who calls herself our Prime Minister is drowning, not waving. She’s nailed to the cross of her incompetence and stuck with the spear of the AWU business, and she knows it. What you are witnessing now is her drawn-out political death scream.

  16. Tel

    I have no doubt that Gillard holds Australia and its people in contempt. Backed up by Fabian socialist principles, her grand plan is to fundamentally transform this country (just like BHO – and thank god she hasn’t used that phrase, yet). Unfortunately, this arrogance is not without cost.

    Very likely all true, but you forget that John Howard also fundamentally transformed this country (just as GWB did in the US) so we have had two consecutive eras of dragging power to the centre, depleting state’s rights, taking away individual rights, and manipulating the rule of law for political ends.

    Both major parties have indulged in this, so the only conclusion must be that a very large number of the voters want this to happen, or else they are just rusted on to their traditional beliefs and really don’t care what happens.

    The good things about Howard were that he supported small business, and simplified the tax system, as well as balancing the books. The bad things were that he got us involved in several Middle Eastern wars, and jacked up the police state provisions. Ultimately, if you are vulnerable to getting accused of terrorism at the drop of a hat, then having a successful business is useless.

  17. johno

    I believe the Carville quote is a hoax.

    I agree.

  18. Alfonso

    The fascination is whether Labor will choose to surely lose the election with Julia rather than give themselves a chance with everyone’s favourite soft cuddly toy our Kev whose guts are hated by most of his “colleagues”. They’ll give themselves no shot at power for 3 years because they despise Kev? Rubbish, think second coming.

  19. Sroods

    The bad things were that he got us involved in several Middle Eastern wars, and jacked up the police state provisions. Ultimately, if you are vulnerable to getting accused of terrorism at the drop of a hat, then having a successful business is useless.

    How true,who would have envisaged Australian citizens going about their daily business would automatically be deemed to be terrorists. One hardly sees anyone of “Middle-Eastern appearance” west of the Great Divide yet when you board an aircraft at many places such as Dubbo, Roma, Longreach etc. you can expect to be pulled from the line and subjected to an explosives test!

  20. m0nty

    This sounds like just the kind of loser talk that lost the election for the GOP in America. You lot are copying everything else from the Yanks, why not their loserhood?

    Voters don’t appreciate being called names.

  21. Ellen of Tasmania

    “(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.”

    Social Democracy. The wolves have spoken. The sheep will be fleeced.

  22. Cold-Hands

    While the Gillard regime has proven to be inept, recent revelations show it to be more of a kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens; government by the worst persons; a form of government in which the worst persons are in power.

  23. Louis Hissink

    Here’s an interesting OP ed by our present Minister for DFAT, published in the AFR this year.

  24. cohenite

    Let’s not elevate Gillard to any status beyond what the facts show; her dealings with the brains trust of Wilson and Blewitt was [alleged] fraud methodology 101 for dummies.

    Her policies have been abject failures by any standard.

    Her relationship history has been abysmal, with the dominant feature being a use ‘em and benefit from ‘em.

    She has a strange lack of empathy and emotional range, at least publically and doesn’t appear to be too bright beyond a self-serving capacity; a good case for sociopathy can be made.

    Outside the bastards in the media, who have propped her up, what machiavellian talents has she manifested?

  25. kraka

    It starts with our education system which has been taken over by socialists. I went to school from the mid severties to mid eighties. We were taught to be proud of history, what it was to be a democracy, how our government system worked etc (not too mention we learnt maths and english as in grammar).
    My teenager now spends more time doing assignments on global warming (for which you get a fail if you question it)and what it means to be a muslim or hindu ad nauseum.
    The lefts march through the institutions has been a big success if you are a socialist but will be looked upon as the beginning of the end in fututre generations.
    The education of our kids needs to be improved if you want to remove the welfare/dependant/ig government mentality-and by improved i mean remove the power of the socialist teachers unions.

  26. Ralph Buttigieg

    G’day,

    I find myself agreeing with m0nty. Australia is not the United States, Tony Abbott is mot Mitt Romney. Even with her revenge based attacks the Liberals are still leading. The Liberals message does resonate with ordinary people. i mean Crikey, here I am in bogan central Blacktown and we now have a Liberal Council! Thats in Robbo’s own seat. Parramatta . Holroyd are also lead by Liberals. The LGA elections were only held in September. As long as the Libs have decent candidates and put on a good fight those results will also show at the Federal level.

    ta

    Ralph

  27. kraka

    I’ll add that parents need to be more active in teaching their kids as well-teachers get 8 hours a day and while some may pooh pooh the idea that teachers try to indoctrinate the kids I can tell you from personal experience and a couple of trips to see the principle for an explanation-that some certainly do.
    The most disgusting example was one teacher telling the kids how her friend kept getting letters from a bank letting her know she could increase her credit limit. According to this teacher her friend is now struggling and it’s all the banks fault. She spent a whole lesson talking about evil banks.
    It took my wife and I a good half hour explaing to the young fella that all the friend had to do was say no I cant afford it to finally get him to understand. He then made the mistake of arguing the reality with the teacher-hence the trip to school and subsequent acknowledgement that the teacher was in the wrong. For the record it was an English class.

  28. Arnost

    The fascination is whether Labor will choose to surely lose the election with Julia rather than give themselves a chance with everyone’s favourite soft cuddly toy our Kev whose guts are hated by most of his “colleagues”.

    I think that Kev will never be resurrected – he’ll be asked to campaign and help the cause, but never again is he to grace the front benches. If I would have a long shot, I would suggest that some time just before the election is called, Penny Wrong will take the leadership, and she’ll run for a lower house seat. And the accusations of negativity, misogyny AND homophobia can be levied against Abbott – business as usual.

  29. Oblique

    Penny Wrong will take the leadership, and she’ll run for a lower house seat. And the accusations of negativity, misogyny AND homophobia can be levied against Abbott – business as usual.

    you can add racism to that list…

  30. Jazza

    Everyone I know has a polished cricket bat ready,has for along time now, and on election day they will inscribe labor on their bats and rush off to administer the blows!

  31. Oblique

    Meet the Press today was an Election speech by the PM.

    So many lies to pick from … particularly the one about TPV’s didn’t work under Howard and they could’t stop the boats … God does anyone put the slapper’s feet to the fire with anything she says? How many lies before they’ll wake up?

  32. Alfonso

    A lesbian ‘partner’ elected to the Lodge?
    When pigs fly backwards down the Essendon ILS.

  33. Anne

    Oblique 11.58. Meet the Press today was an Election speech by the PM.

    I like the one…”People do better when Regulators have more Resources”

    …in other words…Govt needs more of the taxpayers money to install more bureaucrats to more fully run our lives and skim our wallets.

  34. Gab

    People do better when Regulators have more Resources

    …in other words…Govt needs more of the taxpayers money to install more bureaucrats to more fully run our lives and skim our wallets.

  35. Honey badger

    Decided to brave the red viper on ‘Meet the Press’ today. In the first six minutes she used ‘sleaze and smear’ eight times. She’s been instructed to use Goebbel’s technique of repeating ad nauseum. The questioners never follow up with the facts although the viper steamrolls them by implying they are being rude at interrupting her monologues. She’s brazen and evil.

  36. Gab

    She’s certainly the expert in sleaze and smear.

  37. Louis @ 10:53…

    Especially the juxtaposition of the (taxpayer funded) green leather pin-tucked lounge and the saluting statue of Mao.

    An ex ABC journalist stenographer, elected to government by those who vote for a living, living in taxpayer funded luxury, proud of his destruction of regional forest industries while absolving himself of responsibility for subsequently burning them all down, made federal foreign minister because no other elected member of the Australian Workers Union Party was considered competent, has in pride of place, a statue of one of the worst socialist mass murderers of last century, responsible for over 40 million deaths.

    You can’t make this stuff up…

  38. Anne

    Holy snappin’ Forester, you’ve got to be kidding.

    That’s been photo-shopped surely!!!!!

  39. Splatacrobat

    Animal Farm should be mandatory reading for all primary and secondary students. The parallels with this government and msm are frightening.

  40. Louis Hissink

    Forester,

    That the article isn’t behind a Fairfax paywall is also significant. I interpret it as a bit of fluff to show us that those nasty, evil socialists have given up finally, and that they are now looking for inspired leadership of the moment to implement their political goals. Political goals?? Now what they be, then.

  41. Oblique

    In the first six minutes she used ‘sleaze and smear’ eight times. She’s been instructed to use Goebbel’s technique of repeating ad nauseum.

    Not forgetting “negadividy” and “sloime”.

    This tactic is very difficult to counter, even TA admitted that this morning on Bolt. It needs a well-planned disciplined strategy. Perhaps countering “sleaze and smear” with other terms or phrases that could be used against the slapper so they stick. Others may come up with better ones, anyway here’s my feeble effort:

    - contempt speech
    - contempt for: the truth/Australians/business and investment
    - arrogant/arrogance
    - truth-sneering
    - condescending
    - malevolent influence
    - malicious pressure
    - spiteful character
    - shady background
    - hostile attitutde
    - caustic/corrosive relationship
    - toxic control
    - offensive side-stepping
    - insults ordinary Australians
    - lost in the truth/honesty/integrity vortex
    - happy to mislead
    - deny integrity
    - bell the cat with “smear and sleaze”

  42. Anne

    This tactic is very difficult to counter, even TA admitted that this morning on Bolt.

    Ridicule might work, turn it into a drinking game. Every time they say “negativity, sleaze, slime or smear” – skull!

  43. Oblique

    Ridicule might work, turn it into a drinking game. Every time they say “negativity, sleaze, slime or smear” – skull!

    I’d be legless by the end of QT!

  44. Anne

    Ha ha, I’d like to see that.

  45. Anne

    You’re already half way to horizontal anyway aren’t you Oblique. 

  46. wreckage

    Voters don’t appreciate being called names.

    True and worthy point. However both sides are calling the other sides voters stupid, and more people voted for the Coalition than for the ALP. So, while it’s not smart for the L/N to call people stupid, it’s even worse for the ALP to do so.

  47. kae

    RE: the op ed by Carr.

    About that photo, I, too, wonder about the statue to Carr’s left.

  48. tbh

    Animal Farm should be mandatory reading for all primary and secondary students. The parallels with this government and msm are frightening.

    Splat, it was certainly in our curriculum when I was at school. Our English teacher left us in no doubt as to the central message of the book.

  49. Chris

    The most disgusting example was one teacher telling the kids how her friend kept getting letters from a bank letting her know she could increase her credit limit. According to this teacher her friend is now struggling and it’s all the banks fault. She spent a whole lesson talking about evil banks.

    Banks sending unsolicited credit card increases is now actually illegal – its an opt-in scheme only. I always pay my credit card off in full each month and never receive credit card increase offers. My ex with the same bank used to struggle to pay off her credit card but and for years afterwards was regularly offered increases. People do need to take personal responsibility around credit – and there should probably be more education at school around it – but the banks certainly know what they’re doing when they target people with credit increases.

  50. m0nty

    Wreckage, I don’t see the left abusing voters in the OP, only the right.

  51. manalive

    RE: the op ed by Carr.
    About that photo

    What struck me about the obviously posed photo was the self-preening, pompous, self-regard of the man in his book-lined library (casually “savouring an edition of Foreign Affairs” as light reading no doubt) compared with Abbott here.

  52. Jannie

    Animal Farm should be mandatory reading for all primary and secondary students. The parallels with this government and msm are frightening.

    Splat, it was in the Catholic school I went to in the 1960/70s. But not in my sons’ Catholic school in the 2000s .

  53. Max

    that photo of Carr should be on the front page of this and every other political blog in the country.

    celebrating a mass-murderer – How horrible

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