Where’s JC with his traditional welcome? Haven’t seen that for ages, and it’s around the time he stopped that the trollery picked up again. Just sayin’.
The ABC seems to be cranking up the great global warming scare machine again. Night after night their in-house green shrill, Sarah Clarke, has had one of her typical vacuous horror stories on global warming.
But why? What are they trying to soften us up for? Is there some big greenie decision coming up that the Green Party will want to be putting pressure on the government to cave in on again?
The ABC seems to be cranking up the great global warming scare machine again. Night after night their in-house green shrill, Sarah Clarke, has had one of her typical vacuous horror stories on global warming.
Perhaps it’s because of the local heatwave? I mean, get a few hot days in a row and suddenly to the Brainwashed Faithful the planet’s thermostat is going off the scale and it’s all due to the carbon emitted by evil Australians, and by the way, it’s all AbbottAbbottAbbott’s fault that we’re all going to dieeeee horribly, and just think of the poor polar bears!!!1111!!!
Perhaps too an early election is on the cards, and what better time to ramp up a climate fear campaign (to justify the implementation of the carbon tax) than during the middle of a hot Australian summer…
Welcome to our survey on the AWU scandal and the role that the Prime Minister played in it. It was the focus of most of the last week of federal parliament but how much does it matter to voters?
The survey will be open until midnight on Wednesday December 5, 2012.
The ABC seems to be cranking up the great global warming scare machine again. Night after night their in-house green shrill, Sarah Clarke, has had one of her typical vacuous horror stories on global warming.
Pretty sure its just the Doha Climate Wankfest.
They always breathlessly report the non science that comes out of those talks. This time its the nonsense ’4-6 degrees, we’re all dead’ report.
You have a nasty, suspicious mind Lurker. I like that.
I never used to possess one, used to be just an ordinary, garden-variety, not-thinking-much-about-politics voter; yet, over the last five years and for some ‘odd’ reason, I seem to have developed a nasty and suspicious mind, and now it’s been fine-tuned and honed into being able to quickly identify Leftist bulls**tting.
The ABC seems to be cranking up the great global warming scare machine again. Night after night their in-house green shrill, Sarah Clarke, has had one of her typical vacuous horror stories on global warming.
But why? What are they trying to soften us up for?
I never stop questioning my own assumptions. So I am constantly looking for evidence that there is something that I have missed, there there is some piece of killer observational evidence that that provides irresistible substantiation of the AGW thesis. But there is none.
The IPCC is running this scam on “Mabo…it’s the vibe”: CO2 PPM has risen in the past 50 years, so what else could be causing temperatures to rise (if they have, in fact, risen)?
The hyothesis is based on models, which do no reflect observations, and on land temperature records (HADCRUT, etc), which have been doctored to boost the hyothesis and provide many billions in research funding.
After three years of observation of the people running this – and their data – it’s fairly obvious to me that AGW is a political doctrine developed by radicals like James Hansen who don’t like the way the world is being run. Ever wondered why AGW’s biggest fans are political radicals?
I have no doubt that the political radicals at the ABC and Fairfax genuinely believe the world is about to end. Forty years of Hollywood disaster movies and propaganda in the education system will do that. But the AGW journalism is rubbish.
Nevertheless, I will never stop questioning my own assumptions.
TIME WARP 25/8 2011
I love going back to my” things I thought were crap ” files.
The part-time, $1000-per-day gig will see Mr Beattie investigate claims that Australian manufacturers are being dudded by mining companies who go for cheaper foreign suppliers.
Mr Beattie will also be expected to help a range of manufacturers, engineering, legal, financial services and catering firms lift their game so they can compete for lucrative work with the resources sector.
The ABC seems to be cranking up the great global warming scare machine again. Night after night their in-house green shrill, Sarah Clarke, has had one of her typical vacuous horror stories on global warming.
But why? What are they trying to soften us up for?
Delegates are about to go to the conference to agree on Kyoto mark 2. however, nothing substantive will be agreed, because no one important is going, and nobody sane really cares anymore.
Lizzie ….. let me bring you up to speed.
Well ….. whilst you were away North Korea launched it’s satellite. It went haywire and landed in Gaza.
The Crows got fined buckets and lost two years draft picks.
Ricky retired.
The astronauts on the International Space Station report that you can now see the AWU scandal from space.
Tiger Woods lost again.
And some people got banned from here which seems to have met with almost universal acclaim.
Thanks for the scintillating update, Leigh. Nothing much going on, as you say.
Just caught the end of the forum where reference is made to The Banning. Hi Stevie, I will visit you at your blog, I am good with hospital and prison visits, bringing cheer and succor. Personally Stevie I’ve never been at all offended as somehow I have learned to defend with attack (and it has been fun, and in some ways you are a good sport). I think in the present world of confusions about gender it is not always easy for men to know what to say and when, if that is any comfort to you. My mum used to say, Lizzie, you have the gift and the curse of a quick tongue. Sorry Stevie for any hurts inflicted.
Oh – and someone referred to Ahr Lizzie. That’s OK on the Cat, but my mum was Welsh not a nasal East-Ender, and so it was actually Ower Lizzie. I always liked that, because despite everything, it did actually lay a claim to me and say that I belonged there, to them, even if they were unable to actually be there for me.
I don’t really get why people so obsessively get caught up with people whose views they despise or who annoy them. Have a few swipes and just move on. I always found the 300 responses to Steve more annoying than Steve. Or just as, anyway.
Where’s JC with his traditional welcome? Haven’t seen that for ages,
Someone complained that it was getting boring so I stopped. Can’t recall who. Anyways it’s not my traditional owner greeting, it’s Andrew Leigh’s, which I thought was so sincere, so from the heart, so emotional that I just borrowed it for myself.
Here it is again. Try not to cry.
I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today
It’s the people who obsessively responded to him who are most overjoyed at his departure. Same thing will happen if/when numbers gets banned, for example. I really couldn’t give a flying fuck whether numbers comments here or not, because I don’t read his comments.
Can get you a decent deal on a cutlass, too. But you will have to organise your own tricorn hat.
New fashion statement, coming up, MK50. I would look very fetching in a tricorn, perhaps one with an ostrich feather. I am sure I could wield a mean cutlass too.
But I do draw the line at parrot droppings on my shoulder. Plus I have total disdain for a wooden peg-leg or a hook for a hand, although come to think of it, manicures and pedicures would (or should) come at half the cost. Not a convincing enough reason to go the full pirate however.
What if the blog owner simply doesn’t like someone?
well obviously it’s entirely a personal decision who gets banned and who doesn’t. However it’s never entirely arbitrary. There are of course considerations in managing an online community about decisions and policies, their effects, and what your goals are in running the site.
JC, Keith Windshuttle in the Oz this weekend has a piece on smoking ceremonies, welcomes to country etc., where he points out how manufactured these ‘traditional’ rituals are, to the point that they are actually insulting to those aboriginal people who still have a strong base in their culture (as in the NT).
Some priestly words sending these antics up on the Cat is thus a very good idea if you can occasionally manage it, although making people wait until you get the gumleaves to the right degree of dampness for smoking us all out is a bit of a stretch. Others will have their say if you delay.
You may have missed it but the Cat has a traditional gumleaf burning ceremony every Friday morning in deference to the traditional owners. It got so smoky in here once we almost died.
I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today
Nice piece in the Weekend Oz by Windshuttle about this particular upper middle class, guilt assuaging nonsense. He points out that pig-faced Santow, Chancellor of Sydney University, regularly used to recognise the ‘Eora’ people in graduation ceremonies.
Turns out that Eora was not a tribe, but an aboriginal word for ‘people’. So Santow was reognising the ‘People People’.
I defend the banning because it is Sinc’s party and he can do what he wants to. This is private property. It is like ejecting an unwelcome drunk at a party.
However I have always tried to encourage people to ignore the troll/drunk. It is people’s reactions to the troll/drunk that have led him into thinking he is entertaining and thus emboldened him.
If we had all ignored him he would have shambled off home for want of attention.
It’s like saying a little prayer. They’re actually praying.
Not just any prayer, but the unthinking sort that some people learn by rote and repeat like a chant to relieve their own anxiety (kind of like an OCD).
Doesn’t this blog’s union have an OH&S crew? What do they think about this smoking ceremony? Is there a safety procedure sheet for it, for instance? MSDS?
Was it even covered in induction? And do we have to wear our high-vis vests for it? Safety boots? Self-rescuers?
Best Cartoon – Artwork 1971 Winner
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Best Cartoon – Artwork 1972 Winner
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Best Colour or Black and White Illustration – Artwork 1973 Winner
- The National Times, Sydney
Best Cartoon – Artwork 1974 Winner
- The Sydney Morning Herald
Looking at the piece of shite that won “Best Cartoon” this year, I wonder what Pickering’s Cartoons were like in the heady days when he won his Walkley’s? While he does have past samples of his work in his Facebook gallery, he hasn’t indicated which of them won. It’s a sobering reflection to note that many of these ancient cartoons are just as applicable today.
So why are some Bible passages lifted out and declared “biblical,” while others are explained away or simply ignored? Does the Bible really present a single prescriptive lifestyle for all women?
These were the questions that inspired me to take a page from A.J. Jacobs, author of “The Year of Living Biblically”, and try true biblical womanhood on for size—literally, no “picking and choosing.”
This meant, among other things, growing out my hair, making my own clothes, covering my head whenever I prayed, abstaining from gossip, remaining silent in church (unless I was “prophesying,” of course), calling my husband “master,” even camping out in my front yard during my period to observe the Levitical purity laws that rendered me unclean.
During my yearlong experiment, I interviewed a variety of women practicing biblical womanhood in different ways — an Orthodox Jew, an Amish housewife, even a polygamist family – and I combed through every commentary I could find, reexamining the stories of biblical women such as Deborah, Ruth, Hagar, Tamar, Mary Magdalene, Priscilla and Junia.
My goal was to playfully challenge this idea that the Bible prescribes a single lifestyle for how to be a woman of faith, and in so doing, playfully challenge our overuse of the term “biblical.” I did this not out of disdain for Scripture, but out of love for it, out of respect for the fact that interpreting and applying the Bible is a messy, imperfect and – at times – frustrating process that requires humility and grace as we wrestle the text together.
The fact of the matter is, we all pick and choose. We’re all selective in our interpretation and application of the biblical text. The better question to ask one another is why we pick and choose the way that we do, why we emphasis some passages and not others. This, I believe, will elevate the conversation so that we’re using the Bible, not as a blunt weapon, but as a starting point for dialogue.
Lazlo, FTW means “For The Win” in trendy hipster internet speech.
Incidentally Jarrah, the ability for a homeowner to decide who is and isn’t allowed on their property is enshrined in law, specifically that of trespass. Otherwise it would be impossible to get the Mormons to leave when they come knocking.
Consider this blog to be Sinc’s home. If he doesn’t want “mormons” (read: trolls), then it is his right to have them “removed for trespassing” (read: banned).
“Consider this blog to be Sinc’s home. If he doesn’t want “mormons” (read: trolls), then it is his right to have them “removed for trespassing” (read: banned).”
If only that were the case. First, Sinclair is editor-in-chief, but not owner. Second, SfB wasn’t a troll by any definition. Third, the rules have been posted, and a part of the rule of law is that the rules are pre-existing and known. Otherwise it’s just rule of man, not rule of law. Fourth, the rules don’t cover ‘being mean’ – in fact, Sinclair himself has said that “blogging isn’t for sissies” and other statements to that effect.
SfB dominates threads when he’s here; SfB dominates threads even when he’s gone. Even those who profess to hate him just cain’t quit him. FFS, just let him back in.
This meant, among other things, growing out my hair, making my own clothes, covering my head whenever I prayed, abstaining from gossip, remaining silent in church (unless I was “prophesying,” of course), calling my husband “master,” even camping out in my front yard during my period to observe the Levitical purity laws that rendered me unclean.
Sounds good.
My goal was to playfully challenge this idea that the Bible prescribes a single lifestyle for how to be a woman of faith…
“This idea” being one she made up for the occasion.
Uhlmann’s performance on 7.30 last night, pumping up the tyres on the climate warming trishaw, places him in that category of journalists who oscillate. Not the constant good guy some say. Add him to the list with Kelly, Van Onselen, even Sheridan from time to time, as when he lauded the skills and maturity of Carr, welcoming him to the FA portfolio.
Gary Johns asks the same question many of us did regarding the Wilson interview, namely why a junior was put on the case. Someone here suggested it was due to the guy being on the central coast. So, you just run an outside broadcast to him, as if he was a reporter on the spot speaking to camera. But Blewitt had been interviewed remotely by Sales, and, incidentally, he was a tougher nut to crack than she had bargained for.
In the final analysis, Sales or Uhlmann may heve simply elected to use the interview to support Gillard via Wilson. There’s no guarantee either would have done as good a job as someone like Paul Sheehan would.
Sheehan’s piece this week is the sort of “holding to account” we should see more of from those who preen themselves with that sort of misapplied phrase.
Plus I have total disdain for a wooden peg-leg or a hook for a hand
Look, Lizzie, I think the jury is still out on the efficacy of prosthetic hooks.
Great for opening old-fashioned long-neck beers.
Twist tops? …….. not so much.
And one’s “Rock-Paper-Scissors” gameplan can become very predictable.
Has Wayne Swan finally jumped the shark. According to The Oz, Swan is claiming that
any rate cut today would reflect the government’s sound budget management rather than underlying economic weakness
Only his ABC shrills, or a Fairfax employee or someone from Labor’s tame press gallery is going to believe that massive debt and deficit is sound budget management.
Gerard Henderson: In recent times it has been fashionable for critics of Israel – on both the left and the right – to refer to the Jewish vote. In fact, the total number of Jews in Australia would not exceed 130,000. According to my contacts in the Muslim community, the total number of Muslim Lebanese in Australia is more than 400,000. In other words, the political weight of the Australians of Muslim Lebanese background far exceeds that of Jewish Australians. Then there are other Muslim minorities in addition to other Arab groupings.
How did that happen? The Australia many of us grew up in has been sold out by power “elites” and human rights activists, although there’s nothing very elite about most of them. Shades of Paul Theroux’s Mosquito Coast, where the emigrant went to South America with his family to escape the “funny bunnies” who he thought had taken over the USA.
Cold Hands, whatever you think of Pickering’s politics, as a satirical draughtsman, he isn’t very good. He attained a certain vogue in the seventies because he was able to fluke Whitlam as a sort of demented rooster, but I thought we’d seen the last of him after it turned out in the early eighties that he couldn’t draw Bob Hawke.
Check out his work today, he can’t actually capture any contempoary politician and when he tries to draw everyday people, they never quite look like contemporay Australians. His style is and always has been cramped and senile, straight out of the 1930s. His punchlines are usually sub-adult.
Unbelievable. The reason I shop online is so that I can purchase goods that I can’t purchase in this country that are also reasonably priced (about 2/3 the cost of equivalents available here). That there is no tax (or foreign taxes) on these goods is an added bonus.
Fuck off, you whining, lazy dickhead shills for increased gubberment extortion.
If people are so completely mentally owned by sfb, they can always go to his blog and enjoy his company. As for me good riddance to the annoying troll.
RETAILERS have slammed the government for refusing to abolish the GST exemption for offshore internet shopping, despite admitting it unfairly benefits foreign companies at the expense of local businesses.
They’re right though; if you are going to tax consumption, it shouldn’t matter whether the purchase is made within country or outside. The consumption is internal, so the taxation should be applied.
Otherwise it is a sales tax, not a consumtion tax.
Again, the way to get around it would be to set up your internet sales operations offshore, and sell into the country that way. Start doing that on a significant basis and the government will change its methodologies quick smart.
Tell me someone.. That racist jerkoff was banned recently on the same day he appeared.
Why is no one defending him over being booted?
monty did, I told him to get some perspective, given the long winded rants monty has calling us extremists when we question the utility of the NBN or Gillard’s integrity, he then told me I was robbing the racist prick of his humanity…
“The main challenge is mental,” admits Jorgen Randers, who has been feeling for 40 years what readers of the latest gloomy climate forecasts might now be experiencing.
The Norwegian business professor is co-author of the seminal work The Limits to Growth, which sounded the alarm on the planet’s future in 1972
Limits to growth? How did that work out?
Haven’t we run out of oil?
1. Learn to love apartment living
The future will be “urban, dense and crowded” and most people will live in an urban tower in a megacity. So “don’t develop a taste for life in suburbia”. Remind yourself how high-density living relieves you of the lawns that must be mowed, the rooves and gutters that must be fixed, and the long, boring commutes to the city.
Or…you could move out of Sydney. You can buy a 4 bedroom house and 30 acres in the foothills of the Snowy Mountains for about what you pay in between Penrith and Parramatta prices.
2. Forget bushwalking
Don’t teach your children to love wide open spaces. Per capita, there is now only half the unused land there was in 1970, and by 2050 it will halve again. The amount of land that is less than 10 kilometres away from human constructions is rapidly diminishing, so people seeking wilderness will have fewer and fewer places to go, which are further and further away.
Too much of Australia is national park. Head south on the Princes Highway and get past Kiama (nice town anayway) – farms, snobby restaurants and trees, dirt and water galore.
3. Learn to prefer virtual entertainment
Go and see biodiversity hotspots and world tourist attractions now. As technology advances, experiencing a sightseeing spot digitally will have even more advantages than now over standing in the burning sun to see the real thing through the gaps in the crowd.
What is going to happen to Uluru? Going to melt?
4. Focus on satisfaction
Don’t be obsessed with income, and stop believing all growth is good. Accept that the retirement age will increase and pensions will diminish in the ageing industrial countries of the world. During the next 40 years a number of things are going to decline, in some cases representing a fundamental solution to an underlying problem. So it’s wise to teach yourself to distinguish between good and bad growth and decline.
If increasing incomes were bad, why would retirement ages increase? If populations are going to decline, then why do we need so little space?
5. Guarantee yourself a job
If you can’t stand a job in services or health and aged care, go into energy efficiency and renewables, or get your children to. And get them to learn Mandarin, so they can “get a job that will surf on the rapidly expanding wave of Chinese activity on Earth”.
Bullshit. Get as many IT, maths and industry tickets as possible on top of requisite experience. Engineering is always a good option.
Bolt has noted this on his blog, but the utterly staggering commie stupidity inherent in this silly moaning herald piece almost defies description.
With the Christmas season kicking off, the usual suspects are trying to repeat the success they had 10 years ago of using the heat of the summer to built momentum for the scares.
It is drip, drip, drip with their BS all summer when a lot of the pro’s who stand up to them are on hiatis and people who are skimping on air conditioning have not had enough sleep to filter the crap.
No wonder rabz is outrageously outraged….
That article is some of the most amazing lefty tin-foil hat rubbish. I suspect that the ABC & FauxFacts (ability assisted by News idiots like those at the Courier Mail) will do worse.
Pity the authorities across the country are too busy making excuses for these communities and not ensuring these people get the time they need to adapt.
Is there is any clearer case for stopping this policy of encouraging as many illegal and legal immigrants into the country then mashing them all in togther?
Outsourcing immigration to organise crime groups mean charties do not have the time, volunteers and resources to assist the groups dealing with a new society, new technology, psycological scars and cultural friction.
Instead the luvvy class is wasting resources trying to smash apart all controls on this process:
LABOR’S asylum-seeker regime faces a new High Court challenge after Sri Lankan asylum-seekers launched an urgent bid to block their deportation.
From the SMH Cave Dwellers supplement, cited by dot ……
para 4 Don’t be obsessed with income, and stop believing all growth is good.
Hmmm …. so …. all growth is bad?
Well, not all growth.
Read on, dear reader.
Immediately following in para 5 it appears Chinese growth is good and may yet save us all ….
And get them to learn Mandarin, so they can “get a job that will surf on the rapidly expanding wave of Chinese activity on Earth”.
the utterly staggering commie stupidity inherent in this silly moaning herald piece almost defies description
The beauty of the cyberwebs, Rabz, is that the attempted commie doomsday blackmail of the current epoch will be there at our fingertips for all to see forever as a warning to future generations about the bloody-minded bastardry of the left.
Doesn’t this blog’s union have an OH&S crew? What do they think about this smoking ceremony? Is there a safety procedure sheet for it, for instance? MSDS?
Was it even covered in induction? And do we have to wear our high-vis vests for it? Safety boots? Self-rescuers?
I don’t recall complaining about Pat being banned. Sinc is well within his rights to do that. I haven’t complained about SfB either, as I didn’t follow the series of posts between him and Gab that are being referenced.
It does strike me as odd, though, that SfB would be banned for that sort of thing when there is a cadre of snipers on this site who add absolutely nothing to discussion and engage exclusively in gratuitous personal abuse against lefties. If I and others are left to fend for ourselves against such attacks, why isn’t Gab deemed strong enough to defend herself? It seems to me to be a double standard.
… there is a cadre of snipers on this site who add absolutely nothing to discussion and engage exclusively in gratuitous personal abuse against lefties.
My question is to Sinclair, about his curious sense of patricianship.
Curious? How so? I have other curious habits too. So I let females enter rooms first or go through doors. Open doors for females or hold them open, etc.
It is my opinion that Steve’s commentary towards some female threadsters was moving beyond the sort of casual banter and routine rudeness that we all know and love so much. It was beginning to contaminate all discussions and threads where those individuals participated.
you’re joining the Gillard victimhood sisterhood on this one?
Ah, I see you’ve changed your tune suddenly. So gillard’s “speech” was no more that “victimhood of the sisterhood”. Good. Glad you see it that way. Progress.
It is my opinion that Steve’s commentary towards some female threadsters was moving beyond the sort of casual banter and routine rudeness that we all know and love so much. It was beginning to contaminate all discussions and threads where those individuals participated.
So you don’t think the constant abuse I get, with the same insults repeated by the same posters over and over again in every thread in which I post, merits a similar response to the usual suspects?
That’s the double standard I’m talking about, Sinclair. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, etc.
I never saw the ABC interview with Wilson so can’t comment. Sinc did direct me to a site concerning Blewitt which left a lot to be desired about him. I understand he has yet to seek forgiveness from his sister.
Ah, I see you’ve changed your tune suddenly. So gillard’s “speech” was no more that “victimhood of the sisterhood”. Good. Glad you see it that way. Progress.
You’re trying to have it both ways, Gab. Either Gillard is strong enough not to cry victim, and you are as well, or you’re both feigning weakness for personal advantage. Which is it? You’re both strong enough to withstand the barbs, or you’re both too weak to fight misogyny?
So you don’t think the constant abuse I get, with the same insults repeated by the same posters over and over again in every thread in which I post, merits a similar response to the usual suspects?
It hasn’t seemed to have bothered you so far, mUttley – you’ve got the hide of a rhino, which is probably why Sinc doesn’t give a shit.
or you’re both feigning weakness for personal advantage. Which is it? You’re both strong enough to withstand the barbs, or you’re both too weak to fight misogyny?
So you are blaming me for SFB’s swift departure. I was right the first time.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, etc.
Actually it isn’t. m0nty – you are a man; despite what they say.
If it is a double-standard it doesn’t worry me. I have banned the c-bomb and yet nobody is complaining about that. Many years ago his abusive and aggressive commentary against a particular female poster got the original MichaelF banned (and not by me either). So despite Jarrah’s hysterical bedwetting commentary the rules have not changed.
Well apparently gillard is weak and thinks she is only attacked because of her gender. You seem to agree with her at the time. What’s changed?
Answer the question, Gab. Are you standing with Gillard and the Ya-Ya Sisterhood in calling out misogyny, or are you standing on your own two feet as a strong, independent woman who doesn’t need the likes of Sinclair to save you from mere words?
Either you embrace Gillard, Roxon, Plibersek, Wong and the gang, or you tell Sinclair to let SfB back on the site again because you realise that you are woman and you can roar too.
Let SFB back in and return numbers to the Labor cesspit where he belongs.
After several emails from individuals supporting SfB I lifted the ban – he hasn’t returned because he is sulking.
After a robust exchange of opinions between numbers and myself on another thread his recent comments (those that I have seen anyway) appear reasonable.
Okay Sinc, I’m fine with that. As long as you admit it. It’s your site, people can judge you on the way you administer it and stay or go based on that.
So you don’t think the constant abuse I get, with the same insults repeated by the same posters over and over again in every thread in which I post, merits a similar response to the usual suspects?
The Gen X zombie capitalist is demanding a chaperone! (Next he’ll be threatening to sue like Jazzabelle.) Sinc, could you keep an eye out in case Mont bursts into tears?
are you standing on your own two feet as a strong, independent woman who doesn’t need the likes of Sinclair to save you from mere words?
Either you embrace Gillard, Roxon, Plibersek, Wong and the gang, or you tell Sinclair to let SfB back on the site again because you realise that you are woman and you can roar too.
I don’t recall complaining about Pat being banned. Sinc is well within his rights to do that. I haven’t complained about SfB either, as I didn’t follow the series of posts between him and Gab that are being referenced.
I was robbing him of his humanity! Remember that monty? It is wrong for me to call white supremacists evil?
The likes of Pat actually insist on non whites being robbed of their human rights.
Either you embrace Gillard, Roxon, Plibersek, Wong and the gang, or you tell Sinclair to let SfB back on the site again because you realise that you are woman and you can roar too.
Doesn’t this blog’s union have an OH&S crew? What do they think about this smoking ceremony? Is there a safety procedure sheet for it, for instance? MSDS?
Ah Splat …. I think you may speak in jest but truth is stranger the fiction.
The bride bought me a device yesterday which can be used to burn a small quantity of woodchips for smoking fish etc
It carries a prominent warning required by the Gumment of the State of California that inhaling the smoke could be a cancer risk. And this coming from the Gumment of the hooch capital of the USA.
Oh …… and the name of the device? ……. “The Smoking Gun”
I am sending one to the Altona Droner for Christmas
AIR New Zealand’s latest promotion has bombed, with the airline accused of transphobia over a “joke” suggesting a disgraced female Belarusian shot putter has testicles.
My eyes usually glaze over when I see leftie posts, a bit like when some of my customers ask for 90 day terms or when wifey brings home paint swatches and talks dreamily about redecorating the bathroom.
I think lefties like SBF, numbers, SteveC and Monty actually enjoy some sort of perverse self flagellation by visiting this site.Some posts I reply with ridicule because that is what they crave but most of their posts I ignore because that is what they hate the most.
The only thing the old poof Oscar got right was this;
“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”
A follow up on the NYC policeman who gave the homeless bloke a pair of boots:
“Those shoes are hidden,” Hillman, an Army vet, told the Times. “They are worth a lot of money. I could lose my life.”
Hillman said he appreciated what DePrimo did for him and “wish[es] there were more people like him in the world,” but was also somewhat peeved at his fortuneless fame.
“I was put on YouTube, I was put on everything without permission. What do I get?” Hillman is quoted as saying. “This went around the world, and I want a piece of the pie.”
Originally from South Plainfield, New Jersey, Hillman has two children, both in their 20s, but hasn’t spoken to them much in the past few years. According to his sister-in-law, Hillman phones his family once a year “to let us know he’s OK.”
Ahh,the fucking timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone remember Jonathon Holmes spending the first half of the final Media Watch of the year bagging out New Idea for running stories about Kate being pregnant?
If only there was another show next week where Jonathon could make a full and heartfelt apology.
Bolt has signed up for this insanity. Yesterday he was saying the presence of a senator with a ‘male partner who used to be a woman’ (also known as a woman) was testament to our progress as a society. Um, no.
The newly elected head of the Health Services Union (HSU) in New South Wales has declared the era of self-indulgence over, and is vowing to pursue any money that has been defrauded from the organisation…
Gerard Hayes, who was in a senior position at the union under Mr Williamson, has been elected as the new secretary of the HSU’s New South Wales branch and is promising a new era of transparency and accountability.
Does anyone remember Jonathon Holmes spending the first half of the final Media Watch of the year bagging out New Idea for running stories about Kate being pregnant?
If only there was another show next week where Jonathon could make a full and heartfelt apology.
I do. But no apology is needed. NI has been running the same story for months and months and months. You don’t congratulate the maker of a stopped watch for the time rolling around to the same time as the hands show.
Bolt has signed up for this insanity. Yesterday he was saying the presence of a senator with a ‘male partner who used to be a woman’ (also known as a woman) was testament to our progress as a society. Um, no.
James Bond and Labor Senator Louise Pratt tell us something has changed, and for the better.
Pratt is a lesbian whose girlfriend pretends to be a man. Which suggests to me that not even she buys it. These are the type of people we have in our parliament.
You do see the uselessness of Media Watch when Holmes has to point out that a “wymmyn’s mag” is trash? The general public (and their target demographic) know this, they also realise Holmes is an irrelevant, sheltered pillock.
Australians are rightly concerned about electricity prices. They’ve seen big increases, and in part they’ve seen those big increases because we’ve had a decade of underinvestment in base load electricity generation, partly as a result of uncertainty about carbon pricing.
Well, as Prime Minister I am not going to allow the next decade to be the same as the last, meaning Australians will face ever-escalating electricity prices and the risk – the real risk – of black outs in peaks period of usage.
Gillard on ABC radio in December 2010:
HOST: So, is that a good time to add on a carbon price?
PM: Well, we have to, as a country, grapple with this issue (putting a price on carbon dioxide emissions), and I don’t want the next 10 years to be another 10 years of underinvestment in electricity generation causing pressure on prices and the real risk of black outs because we haven’t grappled with this issue.
Gillard in October 2010:
The current price rises in a number of states have been principally caused by a sustained period of under-investment… Significant investment is required to replace ageing network infrastructure and deliver energy security.
C.L – to paraphrahse the Hodge Twins – if you have a dick, you’re a man, you shouldn’t cut it off. All of that is just advice, you can do whatever the fark you wanna do…now for the libertarian disclaimer – if you do cut it off, don’t expect to be entitled to anything.
Gab m0nty is demanding you answer him. It appears he’s well past the misogynistic “looking at his watch” phase with his demands that you acquiesce to his ranting and you just never know what a misogynistic beta male will tell you to do next when they’ve got some steam up so I’d be careful to not upset him futher!
Twostix, if monty wants “answers” he can look back on the 1 Dec open forum. I can’t be held responsible if people do not understand Sinclair’s semi-cryptic comments.
The current price rises in a number of states have been principally caused by a sustained period of under-investment… Significant investment is required to replace ageing network infrastructure and deliver energy security.
Why is it that Labor Federal politicians think that they’re some sort of emporers floating above the inferior incompetent state governments and that they can swan in and touch any state issue and fix it like magic?
Especially when they can’t even do the one thing that they’re actually tasked with doing: Securing the borders.
“I think lefties like SBF, numbers, SteveC and Monty actually enjoy some sort of perverse self flagellation by visiting this site.”
I won’t have it Splat!
I won’t have Numbers accused of self-flagellation!
I hear he gets one of his asylum-shopper guests at Casa del Numerical to dish it out to him.
Thanks, CL. Yes, I find a lesbian relationship involving one woman ‘becoming’ a man more than a little strange too.
I really could not care less what they do in their relationship, unless any public funds are involved – e.g. The women demanded “equality” (i.e. gov money) to get the sex change.
So there’s a dead bodies lying on the ground in the middle of the advanced base camp?
Oh, not only do they see those who failed, they use them to assist their climbs:
In an environment where the climber’s every step is a struggle, rescue of the dead or dying is all but impossible and bodies of the dead are almost always irretrievable. The bodies become part of the landscape and many become “landmarks” that later climbers use as way markers during their climb. There are an estimated 200 bodies lying around the topmost part of Mount Everest.
Cop this:
George Mallory died in 1924 and was the first to make an attempt to reach the summit of the world’s highest mountain. His body, still perfectly preserved, was identified in 1999.
Why is the LP and Outright against government funding of AIDS research and service agencies?
The answer to this is very closely tied to the fact of government over-taxation and of government bureaucratic waste.
FACT: Any time middle-men are added into any transaction, prices go up. The more middle-men involved the higher prices go.
FACT: According to the government’s own GAO reports between 60% and 80% of every dollar given to ANY department or agency of the federal government goes to pay for its overhead, salaries, and all the other expenses of its existence. Only an average of about 30% of each dollar actually gets used for the purpose stated.
FACT: We are a generous community. It has been proven time and time again that we give to projects and causes we are concerned about.
Think about this:
If you want to give one dollar to AIDS research, which way is better? OR, which way benefits the research more?
1 – through taxation — only 20 or 40 cents goes to fund research after the government takes its cut.
2 – through United Way — about 60 cents goes to fund research after UW and the middleman charity takes their cuts.
3 – through a charity funding research — about 80 cents goes to the research. 4 – directly to the research institution — close to 100 percent goes to fund research.
Here’s hoping the organisers of the Senate Christmas Party have a sense of humour and sit Senator Louise Pratt next to Corey Bernardi.
They’ll be laughin’ and jokin’ and pullin’ each others bon-bons in no time ….. or not.
I’ll support her legal right to pretend to be a man, but I’m not required to believe her delusion
Sorry!
I was looking for Catallaxy.
It looks like I have stumbled on to a Monty Python tribute site by mistake.
FRANCIS: Why are you always on about women, Stan?
STAN: I want to be one.
REG: What?
STAN: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me ‘Loretta’.
REG: What?!
LORETTA: It’s my right as a man.
JUDITH: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
LORETTA: I want to have babies.
REG: You want to have babies?!
LORETTA: It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.
REG: But… you can’t have babies.
LORETTA: Don’t you oppress me.
REG: I’m not oppressing you, Stan. You haven’t got a womb! — Where’s the fetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!
LORETTA: [crying]
JUDITH: Here! I– I’ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can’t actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody’s fault, not even Tony Abbott’s the Romans’, but that he can have the right to have babies.
Exactly, Laylow… I think of this scene every time the issue pops up. Like I say, people can pretend to be what they like, but there’s nothing libertarian about sharing the delusion.
Progressives believe a sheila should be able to strap on a plastic cock, surgically remove their tits, ingest a couple of tonnes of male hormones and then be able to call themselves “Barry” and use the urinal right alongside Bruce.
These same progressives think Barry should be banned from smoking.
No they can’t. They cannot pretend to be returned servicemen, for example, or police officers – or medicos; or members of a subsidised ethnicity.
You simply cannot pretend to be whatever you like.
It is a sympton of cultural insanity and collapse that transgender ‘men’ and ‘women’ are not called out for being the clinically troubled people they are.
Incidentally, how the hell does a ‘lesbian’ (Senator Pratt) explain being partnered with somebody she doctrinally insists is a man?
Makes me think of Mr Garrison from South Park – he’s had quite a progression throughout the series: He used to be an odd fellow with a puppet called Mr Head. Then he came out of the closet. Then he ditched his puppet and had a gay lover called Mr Slave. Then he had a sex-change operation to become a woman. Mr Slave ditched him, because he didn’t want to be with a woman. Garrison himself is disappointed with his operation when he finds he can’t get pregnant and so will never be able to have an abortion (in the same episode, Kyle has a negroplasty because he self-identifies as a black basketball player stuck in the body of a jewish kid). Later in the series, Mr Garrison self-identifies as a Christian woman, outraged by the teaching of evolution, but quickly changes his mind when Dawkins is attracted to him, declaring “If only you were an atheist“. Later in the series, he discovers he’s a lesbian (“I mean, really I don’t even understand how two women can make love, unless they just kind of scissor or something.”) Ultimately, he has a sex-change back to become a hetero male (or maybe not, I lose track).
George Monbiot is getting closer to Clive Hamilton in his regard for democracy. Just a little furger Geoge and you’ll get there.
But this is scarcely a beginning. We must start to articulate a new politics, one that sees intervention as legitimate, that contains a higher purpose than corporate emancipation disguised as market freedom, that puts the survival of people and the living world above the survival of a few favoured industries. In other words, a politics that belongs to us, not just the super-rich.
Yep, even Mr Slave had the self respect to end the homosexual relationship, when his male partner chose to become a female.
Mr Slave who doesn’t mind the odd hamster inserted into his rectum, and can beat Paris Hilton in a slut off – by shoving her up his rectum – can teach our senator a thing or 2 about pride and decency.
“Incidentally, how the hell does a ‘lesbian’ (Senator Pratt) explain being partnered with somebody she doctrinally insists is a man?”
perhaps Senator Pratt just truly wants to believe her partner is a man, because she feels it’s more acceptable perhaps socially or culturally to be with a man, so she’s kidding herself her partner is a man.
John Falkner advocates the radical policy of expelling thieves and criminals from the ALP. Gillard described:
…Senator Faulkner said a culture had developed within Labor’s NSW branch where “being caught out at sharp practices is worn almost as a badge of honour.”
Mr Slave who doesn’t mind the odd hamster inserted into his rectum…
Poor Tiddlywinks… this was the episode where Garrison was trying to get sacked for being gay, so that he could sue. He kept upping the ante, and when the kids reported the behaviour, they got in trouble for being homophobic.
There were many things wrong with the Finkelstein report. Prominent among these was the delusion that the papers fed him that everything was hunky dory in their business models, which events in the months following showed was a transparent sham that anyone who knew anything about the industry would have seen through as a joke.
The whole thing was a show trial, a circus, meaning nothing, and was never going to amount to any reform. Much like the Internet censorship issue which, as I predicted years ago, was quietly dropped recently after maximum mileage was extracted for the benefit of the pearl clutching brigade.
Mike Quigley is effectively the Minister for Communications. Conroy has presided over Quigley’s handling of the NBN, but has done precious little else. Turnbull hasn’t landed a punch on either, which can be credited not to Conroy but the bucket of crap Turnbull was handed labelled “Lib policy”. Conroy will do nothing about Finkelstein, and good riddance to a complete waste of time.
The Lemmywinks song just popped into my head. Brilliant.
Lemmiwink’s journey is distant, far and fast! To find his way out of a gay man’s ass! The road ahead is filled with danger and fright! But push onward Lemmiwinks with all of your might!
m0nty, forgive me, but even after your explanation, I am still confused.
Do you support the recommendations of the Finklestein report? Yes or No?
If No, have you stated this position to the branch of the ALP of which you are a member?
If Yes to the previous, how is your position viewed within your party?
John Faulkner, Martin Ferguson, Lindsay Tanner. Don’t like any of them much, but you can tell there is a complete other level to their ethics compared to the rest of the sorry bunch.
But, these guys stood back and let their party get taken over by the Emily Listers and crooks, so be it on their own head.
There really is a big chance the current lot could kill the Labor party as we know it off, if the corruption is endemic as it appears to be, and if it can be brought out into the open.
Don’t believe me? Where is the National Party of QLD now? It doesn’t exist, that’s where. It never recovered from the stench of the 1980s corruption, the type of breeding ground that threw up the Peter Slippers of the world.
One Fitzgerald enquiry later and you could have the beginning of the end for Labor.
Apologies m0nster, I thought that I had read somewhere that you were a member.
Why aren’t you? There does not seem to be much ALP policy that you don’t support, in fact, you actively promote it most of the time.
“What you said is bullshit! It’s wrong! It’s a lie!,” responds Furr, adding, “But of all of the falsifications that go on in the school systems in this country – this world, Soviet history is falsified the most. I have spent many years researching this and similar questions that I have yet to find one crime – yet to find one crime – that Stalin committed. I know they all say he killed 20 or 30 or 40 million people. It’s bullshit!”
I am not a member of any party m0nty. I never have been. There has never been a party that I felt stood for all of the things that I believe in.
Having said that, I am actually considering joining the Libs, not because of what they represent, but for what/who they are opposing.
The incumbent resident of the Lodge and the party that she represents are to my mind, the most disgraceful rabble of underachievers to ever have power in this country. The cultural and financial damage that they have wreaked on us will still be being counted for years to come. They are a vile mix of nasty, virulent politicians with a total lack of a moral compass.
They need to be removed for the good of the nation, and Gillard needs to go down in infamy as our most inept PM ever.
The Liberal party does not represent my beliefs fully and I do not actively shill for them as you do with the ALP.
I am pretty transparent in my views, and I really can’t cop party political hacks who just spout talking points.
I hope that answered your questions m0nty. If there are any more, I won’t be able to respond until much later as I am off to work now.
This one has been coming for a while with the rise in incidences of labiaplasty and re-doing hymens. They are adults and can therefore request whatever the eff they want, because those are the standards we supposedly support.
Where it falls down is that FGM is traditionally carried out on girls from infancy onwards depending on the particular cultural practice of the tribe.
Some prefer to slice their kids around 3, some 5, some 9-11.
And while it’s illegal to cut up kids, you’ll find in every major women’s hospital there is a section set aside especially for dealing with FGM and the problems with it.
In any case, even if you don’t sew the women back up after they give birth, they can get it done at home anyway, and you can cut them open again next time they come back to give birth.
” Lemmiwink’s journey is distant, far and fast! To find his way out of a gay man’s ass! The road ahead is filled with danger and fright! But push onward Lemmiwinks with all of your might!”
That is exactly why hammygar should be called Lemmiwinks. Whenever I see a comment by him the Lemmiwinks tune pops into my head.
And Rabz…
“I’ll say one thing for South Park, it’s certainly a show that’s pilloried the utter absurdities of modern life with merciless precision.”
Southpark invented the manbearpig meme, which has spread way beyond the original show, to the point where a lot of people have heard of it, but don’t know the origin.
Same goes for:
1. Use goofy guy in glasses to win election by saying he is fiscal conservative
2. Use union powerbrokers to knife him at first opportunity
3. ?????????
4. Profit!
They need to be removed for the good of the nation, and Gillard needs to go down in infamy as our most inept PM ever.
The first part is correct not so sure about the second. Gillard was much more successful in getting stupid policies through than Rudd so in one sense she would only be the second most inept.
Well said Huckleberry (3.17). People of good will should contemplate joining both the major parties right now: working in the Libs (or Nats) to get the necessary policies in place after the next election, and working in the ALP to make the membership come to grips with the corruption of the party so it might be a worthy contender for government in a few decades.
This meant, among other things, growing out my hair,
Hmm, okay. Did you require your husband to cut his?
making my own clothes,
Why?
covering my head whenever I prayed,
Okay. Did you require your husband to uncover his?
abstaining from gossip, remaining silent in church (unless I was “prophesying,” of course)
Prophesying, or rebuking from scripture, actually; and the two are interchangeable in some usage. So basically the only things you’re not allowed to do are symptomatic of tourette’s syndrome.
, calling my husband “master,”
Uh… the f*ck?
even camping out in my front yard during my period to observe the Levitical purity laws that rendered me unclean.
Well that’s a bit stupid. Levitical purity laws do not apply to gentiles, as Paul exhaustively explained; but if they did, they do not require you to leave your home. And don’t start on about me picking and choosing my sources; the head covering is from Paul.
At the H R Nicholls Society last year there was a paper on the role of the trade unions and other dubious characters in that project that would make you sick. So I am not going to provide the link.
A Bay of Plenty dairy farm has been fined $74,000 in its second round of convictions for discharging effluent into a waterway within 18 months.
Opotiki company Riverlock Farms Ltd and directors Ian and Geoffrey Brown were found guilty after a two-day defended hearing in Whakatane District Court.
Last year the same company was convicted and fined $40,000 for discharging effluent from an effluent pond and discharging effluent from an irrigator where it could enter a waterway.
On Thursday the company and brothers were found guilty of three charges, including pumping underpass water containing effluent into a tributary of the Waioeka Stream, effluent flowing into the same tributary when an effluent pond overflowed. The third conviction was for failing to comply with a court order to obtain a report about the farms contingency plans for effluent management.
Any minute now the greens (if they’re consistent) will be demanding milk imported from NZ be BANED.
Any minute now….
BoltA has pointed out that all the (3?) desal plants in the nation have been gigantic money wasters.
Rafe, there’s three in use and another three under construction, or more accurately in the Victorian plant’s case “under water”.
The one in Kurnell only operates because those fucking labor idiots built a guaranteed use clause into the operating terms, so taxpayers get screwed despite the record amount of water in Warragamba dam.
According to Joe Hockey on 2GB this evening the base rate was higher under John Howard but the rates charged for mortgages and especially for small business were lower than the rates at present. Labor people like Penny Wong don’t have a clue about life in small business land. Not their problem?
What a pass we’ve come to when a bikies’ lawyer channels Jefferson:
Police should use criminal law if they have evidence to lay charges, Finks lawyer Bret Walker SC told the court on Tuesday.
“This is another scheme enacted by a state parliament which seeks to address the suppression of crime in ways other than by criminal trial,” Mr Walker said.
Walter Sofronoff, QC, representing the Queensland government, said the laws were designed to strike a balance and were in aid of a serious purpose.
“Sometimes these competing rights will come into collision,” Mr Sofronoff said.
Ain’t that the truth, CL? What have we come to when legislation gets so bad it makes ‘average’ people side with a bikie gang against the government of the day?
Everest – macabre and bizarre. Soon the instructions to get to the top will be surreal: ‘when you get to the fourth dead American you’ll see a pair of dead Japanese up near the three dead Frenchmen, that’s where you turn left, then pass between the dead Pom and the dead Russian….’
I know that a volunteer group removed 150 tons of rubbish and some bodies from the area a few years back. Perhaps that was from lower elevations?
it’s disturbing that no-one has been able to recover the bodies and give them proper burial.
Yes. My brother was a mountaineer. His body is on Cerro Fitz Roy in Patagonia, along with others.
Wow Ella, I’m sorry. Did he know that was a possible event before he went up?
I posted the link as I didn’t know that so many had died. What is a comparable sport/profession where years after the tragedy people have to march through the hall of those who had came before and fallen?
Helen Bannister was in the education faculty of Melbourne University when the forum held its first meeting. She wasn’t a member of the ALP. She saw the forum as a chance to share and debate education policy and research. Back then, socialism was not the dirty word it is now.
“It could have been called the policy forum,” she said. “Having a socialist objective within a capitalist society didn’t mean you were a communist. It meant you were interested in equality and redistribution of wealth.”
He failed badly in 2010 and got lucky on the back of Hurricane Sandy.
What was it?
180k votes cast a different way out of over 100 million and Nate Silver would’ve been consigned to history as a blowhard.
Yet, SteveC still has not addressed, if AGW is real and the crisis is chronic, why cultists like him do not endorse nuclear energy like George Monbiot?
Some may say they are not genuine about all this stuff…
What we were expecting from a sports writer anyway?
Strange how the cultist seem to appeal to creditials/authority when it is somebody opposing their faith, yet will quote from the ABC science shlock jock, psych professor and sports stats expert when it suits them.
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Token please refer to my answer to your question on nuclear energy many months ago. My answer hasn’t changed.
I’m still waiting for your confirmation you have read the Delinquent Teenager as you committed to. I thought you’d be a man of your word…
Silver simply analysed the data from all the polls and made predictions based on the aggregated data and past historical built in biases of the pollsters. It’s called meta analysis and is a well known data analysis method to smooth biases. The Romney backers on this site found the one pollster who said what they wanted to hear (Rasmussen) and determined he must be right, in spite of all the contrary polls. People have an uncanny knack of hearing what they want to hear. And then rationalising how they got it wrong (i.e. everything was on track till Sandy came along. Yeah, right)
I think Silver’s analysis of the public opinion view of AGW will be fascinating.
Delinquent Teenager. Is that the La Framboise book? No I haven’t read it yet. To be honest I haven’t even finished the Deaver novel I started about 6 months ago. So my reading list is a tad long. But it is on the list
I think Silver’s analysis of the public opinion view of AGW will be fascinating.
Prolly.
But along with all the cognitive biases you’ve alluded to, there’s another: failing to acknowledge when you just get lucky. Romney didn’t lose by much at all; even if whasisname’s analysis had been bang on, with poor luck he could have predicted wrongly.
And it remains possible that he was right in spite of his methods. That’s another error people don’t see, because it’s counter-intuitive.
You are talking shit, you don’t know what you are talking about.
ha ha, that’s very funny dot. Clearly you don’t actually know what data mining is. Or possibly meta analysis either. wikipedia may help you.
Or you could check some analytical software sites for detailed discussions of data mining. e.g. sas, spss, oracle
ha ha, that’s very funny dot. Clearly you don’t actually know what data mining is. Or possibly meta analysis either. wikipedia may help you.
Or you could check some analytical software sites for detailed discussions of data mining. e.g. sas, spss, oracle
Cluebat: Silver got a lot wrong in 2010 and his 2012 stuff could be replicated with an Excel add in.
Hmm yes but I need to buy fucking SAS to do his magic tricks, right?
Let’s see what he does with the hockey stick, warming during low CO2 concentrations in natural history, urban heat islands, cointegration analysis that halves the forcing of CO2 and the new research cohenite brings up that shows the earth can basically give off heat as the greenhouse effect has an upper limit.
Gillard was much more successful in getting stupid policies through than Rudd so in one sense she would only be the second most inept.
Any dingbat can get legislation through when they have both Houses in their pocket like she has. By the length of a flea’s clitoris, true, but she’s got them.
Yep, absolutely dot. Romney had it in the bag until that dang hurricane changed everything. uh huh.
Entirely true, fuckhead.
So Dot you support totalitarians so long as they are your sort of totalitarian? He would have signed the NDAA so he says in other words he is a totalitarian that couldn’t even get that far. Boo hoo for him.
The Norwegian business professor is co-author of the seminal work The Limits to Growth
So if this is a “seminal work”, why is the image I’m getting that of a rancid puddle of semen on the bedsheets of a $30/night motel on some godforsaken minor highway in some godforsaken corner of the Great Southern Land?
In the late 1960s while too many people were leaving God behind and burning American flags, Jack Kerouac had reengaged with his Catholic faith and was going to anti –American protests for the sole purpose of saving flags that were about to be burned. Kerouac also let everyone who would listen know that the sexual experimentation that was being openly promoted in some quarters would be the country’s downfall. He noted that he engaged in just about every sexual situation imaginable and it left him empty and near the emotional abyss. As too many Catholics intellectuals were embracing theologians who were literally embracing heresy, Kerouac was embracing a very traditional view of the Faith. He famously stated, “I don’t want to be known as a beat poet anymore, I want to be known as a Catholic.”
John Lennon: Republican.
The revelations made just a couple of years ago that John Lennon lamented that he couldn’t vote for Ronald Reagan in 1980 (because he was a British citizen) seemed to shock many and it was quickly buried by the mainstream media. However, years earlier other reports surfaced that Lennon had spent the last few years of his life reading religious books and watching religious programming. It seems the 1977 worldwide television release of Jesus of Nazareth had a tremendous effect on the former Beatle. Lennon’s former assistant reported that Lennon got into a shouting match with the assistant’s father who was a Socialist. Lennon told him that Big Government didn’t work and faith was the key to happiness not the government.
In a major change in the debate related to the death of a woman in Ireland that abortion activists are using to push legalizing abortion, a newspaper admits that the woman may not have sought an abortion before she died.
An Irish Times reporter admits Savita did not request abortion, according to hospital records.
In a radio interview on Ireland’s “Coleman at Large” program, Irish Times reporter Kitty Holland admitted the death of Savita Halappanavar may not have been related to Ireland’s abortion laws.
And:
Physicians worldwide agree that even if an abortion had been requested, Savita’s life could not have been saved by the dangerous procedure. India’s well-respected Dr. Divakar was quoted by The Hindu, stating: “Based on information in the media, in that situation of septicaemia, if the doctors had meddled with the live baby, Savita would have died two days earlier.”
Colour me surprised that those morally scrupulous abortion activists have tendentiously presented the death of this woman and her child as items to be exploited for their political campaign. To the same end, there was a hatchet job recently in The Age’s Good Weekend focussed on Ireland’s very reasonable abortion laws. They seem to be ground zero of Emily’s Listers.
If Nate Silver takes on climate change, it will be interesting to read the correspondence he and Steve McIntyre will invariably end up having.
Remember, Steve McIntyre’s political outlook has always been of the Left; his position on climate change comes simply from his intellectual honesty having looked at the data.
If Silver shares that integrity, McIntyre will convert him.
If Silver shares that integrity, McIntyre will convert him.
SteveC, along with the whole alarmist community, lacks integrity.
Speaking of Sandy – has anyone yet defined just why the media praised Obama’s “handling of it”? Looked just as messed up on the ground as any other natural disaster. Seems to me that it was just another media boost, the opposite of what they did to Bush, for no other reason than partisanship.
John Faulkner rings the bell on a party system that, for the faithful, encourages voter “cynicism” and, for people looking in from outside, is corrupt and rotten to the core:
ONE of Labor’s most respected figures has dared the ALP to abolish its factional system, declaring that it concentrates power within “the stunted perspectives of just a few”, isolates the party from the broader community and allows corruption to flourish.
ALP elder John Faulkner drew a direct link between the allegations against senior party figures emerging daily from anti-corruption hearings in Sydney and the party’s adherence to “inherently undemocratic” voting rules that enabled a “tiny minority” of MPs to hold sway over all major decisions.
Warning support for reform usually “melts away” once vested interests are confronted with a loss of power, Senator Faulkner said his proposed changes were crucial for good government and the integrity of a political system being corroded by voter cynicism.
“In the case of the ALP, and particularly the NSW branch of the ALP, the increasing limitation of those involved in decisions about rules, disputes and preselections, as well as policy, has meant that our party’s actions reflect the stunted perspectives of just a few, and bear little or no relationship to the expectations of the party members, the broader labour movement or the community,” Senator Faulkner said in a speech delivered at an integrity in government conference in Melbourne.
The banking ologopoly is using residential mortgage margin increases to boost flagging profitability growth without a even a hint of price competition:
MORTGAGE holders have been shortchanged $3684 a year on average by the Big Four banks – who refused to pass on rate cuts in full to customers over the past 12 months.
After the Reserve Bank yesterday cut the official cash rate to “emergency levels” last witnessed at the height the GFC in 2009, The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Big Four will again prove grinches this year, after pocketing a combined $214 million when they only passed, on average, 116 of the 150 basis points slashed by the RBA since November 2011.
A Fat Prophets analysis of the major lenders’ variable mortgage book revealed Westpac has held back 35 basis points, Commonwealth Bank 29 basis points, NAB 41 basis points and ANZ 30 basis points.
This move has reaped the banks $68.8 million, $59.7 million, $51.4 million and $34.5 million respectively…
…Exclusive analysis by independent financial comparison website Mozo has also shown the Big Four banks have been sneakily increasing their home loan margins by an average 0.59 basis points over the last three years. When official interest rates were last at 3 per cent in September 2009, the average Big Four bank standard variable home loan was just 5.78 per cent.
But even if ANZ, CBA, NAB and Westpac pass on all of yesterday’s cut in full, the average Big Four bank standard variable rate will fall to 6.37, nowhere near the sub-6 per cent rates enjoyed by borrowers three years ago.
The Greens are heartened by Fatty O’Barrell’s encouragement of law-breakers on bikes:
HE was “tackled” by police after riding through a red light, yet Antony Johnson said the $66 fine won’t stop him breaking the law again.
The Maroubra cyclist was one of dozens fined during a crackdown yesterday as part of Operation Reliant.
While he conceded he was in the wrong and applauded police for “keeping people honest”, Mr Johnson said the $66 fine – although annoying – wasn’t much of a deterrent.
“At the end of the day you just have to cop it on the chin,” he said.
“It’s not going to stop me doing the wrong thing – it’s a couple of beers, isn’t it? I’ll do it again, but probably not in the same place.”
Motorists who are caught running a red light are fined $324 and lose three demerit points.
Mr Johnson said he was angry a police officer had tried to “rugby tackle” him on a busy intersection.
“I don’t mind what they are doing but I take offence to being rugby tackled in a busy street when there’s a bus in front of me and he could’ve caused an
accident,” he said.
Oh noes! Climate hysteria has run its course and kids are now more worried about the economy:
FORGET trees. The biggest concern for the next generation is finding a job to support their families.
The economy has overtaken the environment as the most pressing concern for the young, according to a survey of 15,000 people aged 15 to 19.
The environment was the top national concern in the past two National Youth Surveys conducted by Mission Australia but its 11th annual report found it had slipped to sixth place this year, with only 17.5 per cent of respondents saying it was the most important issue facing the country, compared with 37.4 per cent who made the same comment last year.
The organisation’s national manager of research, Bronwen Dalton, said the environment had been usurped by more immediate worries. ”The environment has been crowded out by this really dominant concern about the economy,” she said.
Many young people said they would have to find work to support their families or expressed anxiety about their parents losing their jobs.
Winter is coming for Summer’s children who were born into and grew up in an economy without recession since 1992:
Many young people said they would have to find work to support their families or expressed anxiety about their parents losing their jobs.
I wonder when the 40yo teenagers who spam this blog with the AGW cultist nonsense will release the fad is over and holding on will make them look dated?
Reminding us all that teenagers move on from any trend all too quickly, the environment dropped in importance in the survey by more than half.
The most alarming result from the survey was that one in 10 young people don’t feel safe in their neighbourhood.
If the teenagers are scared, then who the hell are the bullies?
AM’s hard-voiced harpie de jour Alexandra Kirk interviewed Scott Morrison as if he was personally responsible for the conditions illegals on Nauru have to put up with.
She’s always been a piece of work, just like colleague Sabra Lane.
Colour me surprised that those morally scrupulous abortion activists have tendentiously presented the death of this woman and her child as items to be exploited for their political campaign.
Any sensible person would’ve realised the callous exploitation of the tragic death of a woman should not have been a subject to play petty politics with.
Unfortunate the desperate pre-abortion lobby lost its moral compass years ago.
If Silver shares that integrity, McIntyre will convert him.
There is nothing in Silver’s methodology so far to indicate he is not ethical, he has a model which worked in sports and works some of the time when the turnout model is one way and not another.
Silver is like most people working in an area in flux is charting what happened, and has no mortgage on what will happen.
I do find it amusing that his introduction into the area is seen as the silver bullet by cultists. He is likely to find that if his conclusions are too inconvenient, this tall poppy will be lopped.
I wonder when the 40yo teenagers who spam this blog with the AGW cultist nonsense will release the fad is over and holding on will make them look dated?
Yet Fairfax continues to allocates pages to the temporary ruling class’s wailing about lack of action on climate change:
The environmental movement clings to its orthodox approach out of habit, out of psychological comfort, perhaps also out of naivety. But it has become an obstacle – its own form of denialism. Unfortunately, a range of responses now needs to be considered, including some radical ones.
Until recently, geo-engineering – intentional, large-scale manipulation of the Earth’s climate – was taboo. Environmentalists have long fought it, and for understandable reasons. It was being used as a distraction from the fight against rising emissions. Most scientists are also wary. Geo-engineering is absurdly risky, like playing God with a system we don’t fully understand. But we need to start investigating it. This will include experimenting with carbon dioxide removal methods, and also looking at adaptation measures. The argument that humans shouldn’t take it upon themselves to upset the natural environment is, plainly, now redundant.
We need to ask why a political and social movement has failed to convert scientific consensus into action.
Note: the author is a luvvie media activist, not a scientist.
Looks like the back bencher who showed our PM how to brazen one’s way out of trouble is finding his web of lies being slowly unpicked, document by document.
FAIR Work Australia has taken aim at disgraced ex-Labor MP Craig Thomson over dramatic claims in the parliament that he was “set up” with hookers.
The industrial watchdog has also rejected Mr Thomson’s statement that he urged investigators to “get the footage” from brothels during a three-year probe into the former Health Services Union boss.
This should be a warning for Julia Milhaus Nixon, documented well by Janet Albrechtsen:
Clever in the same way Julia Gillard and other Labor Party MPs used that word against John Howard in the lead-up to the 2007 election. Clever was used as a euphemism for devious, tricky, sly.
The media is abuzz with talk of ALP reform – as if that’s going to happen. Keeps them happy & chatty for today though, talking about their favourite entity, all of them getting the warm and fuzzies while thinking of themselves as “in the know”, in the big tent. Way too many of them know way too much about the arcane subject of Conference, factions and voting.
Miranda Devine notes today how Big Green and the need for an endless series of empty scares has perverted the CSIRO and will leave it with an amazing hole when the AGW bubble pops:
The low turnout at Doha doesn’t stop authoritarian demagoguery at the UN, whose climate chief Christiana Figures this week declared the talks were about “a complete transformation of the economic structure of the world”.
Hence the scare campaign.
With the Kyoto protocol due to run out on December 31 we are witnessing the desperate last roll of the dice from climate alarmists who have cried wolf once too often.
This is the disease afflicting the formerly great institution of the CSIRO, where I once worked.
It is now preoccupied with the climate issues on which its government funding depends, as Tom Quirk writes in Quadrant magazine this month.
That becomes clear when you look at this year’s annual report.
In 150 pages, the word climate appears 88 times, sustainability 61 times, carbon 57, emissions 34, and greenhouse 32.
By contrast, the things that actually drive Australia’s economy barely feature.
Wool is nowhere to be found, despite being among our top 20 export earners and despite CSIRO’s proud history of wool research – from Softly detergent to robot shearers.
Wheat appears 11 times, coal five times, iron ore, our top export, appears twice, cattle and natural gas appear once each.
The climate change gravy train is where the action is, judging by the CSIRO Twitter account. On Monday, after Pep’s report was published, there were 13 tweets, more than half about climate change.
Yes, Labor and their dogs in the media are trying to stop the momentum for effective investigations into and reform of their money tree – the union movement.
The move follows the Gillard government’s appointment of former Queensland treasurer Andrew Fraser and former attorney-general Cameron Dick to other federal posts in recent weeks.
Mr Fraser gained a two-year position on the Australian Sports Commission board early last month, joining business and sport executives who oversee millions of dollars in grants. He was Queensland treasurer from September 2007 until Labor lost the state election earlier this year.
Mr Dick, a former state minister for industrial relations and education as well as attorney-general, was last week named the new chairman of the Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Commission for three years.
Rewarding incompetence is the hallmark of this government.
The environmental movement clings to its orthodox approach out of habit, out of psychological comfort, perhaps also out of naivety. But it has become an obstacle – its own form of denialism. Unfortunately, a range of responses now needs to be considered, including some radical ones.
Let me guess:
Suspension of democracy?
Property confiscation?
Arrest and detention in climate re-education camps?
The move follows the Gillard government’s appointment of former Queensland treasurer Andrew Fraser and former attorney-general Cameron Dick to other federal posts in recent weeks.
More evidence of sandbagging with Labor hacks so they have friendly’s in position for when they are consigned to the wilderness after the election.
ABC tick
MSM tick
PS tick
Boards tick
Judiciary tick
Diplomatic corps tick
Extend tenure of GG tick
Let’s not forget that other grub, Mike Kaiser. Got off the late arvo Canberra/Brisbane flight a few months ago and there he was large as life. Works for NBN Co now if I remember correclty. Just getting by on a paltry $400k or so. Poor bastard.
The media is abuzz with talk of ALP reform – as if that’s going to happen.
It will certainly need to happen after the next election.
Be interesting to see which failed, corrupt, walking corpses they reanimate to conduct yet another “root and branch” review of the stinking carcass that is the ALP.
What’s going to remain to be investigated, anyway?
I’d be fascinated to hear your experiences with branch party politics, Huck.
Zilch, nada, nil, fuck all.
The closest that I have come to branch party politics was doing the horizontal folk dance thing with a quite tidy member of the Young Liberals back in the days of Hewsons Fightback.
…Did he know that it was a possible event before he went up?
Tokes, my brother was a professional guide back home and knew the risks – an experienced climber.
My brother was on a joint expedition with Americans.
The group set up camp at the base of the mountain. They chose the two most experienced climbers to make the push for the top.
I’m still in touch with an American academic who was part of that expedition. He told me that from the condition of the bodies, it looked as if one of them had fallen and taken the other with him – at that point they were roped together. The team put the bodies in a small crevasse and went for help. When they got back the crevasse had opened. The body of the American was retrieved but it was considered too dangerous to go after my brother.
Patagonia was the first stop which was supposed to end in an attempt on Everest.
I still have all the newspaper clipping of my brother’s successes and your post didn’t bother me.
Be interesting to see which failed, corrupt, walking corpses they reanimate to conduct yet another “root and branch” review of the stinking carcass that is the ALP.
They have already had the following luminaries perform previous post election autopsies and all came to the same conclusion; Terminal necrosis of the brand.
Bob Hawke
Steve Bracks
Bob Carr
Peter Beattie
John Faulkner
George Wright
Neville Wran
John Watkins
Anthony Chisholm
No ALP review has so far yet managed to find the solution to polishing a turd without it crumbling in their hand.
So Dot you support totalitarians so long as they are your sort of totalitarian? He would have signed the NDAA so he says in other words he is a totalitarian that couldn’t even get that far. Boo hoo for him.
Kelly Liddle, you are an idiot.
Did Massachusetts become a totalitarian State when he was Governor?
He was the least worst of the main party candidates, and the US has strict separation of powers.
The perfessor is on his hind legs this morning about Fairfax is being deserted by its readers:
A young and naive lawyer shacks up with a crook, helps him via a concocted power attorney to conceal a significant property investment from his abandoned wife, and then gets fired when her malfeasance comes to light. To most, that would represent a prima facie case that the crook had been hanging his trousers on the bedpost of an arrogant and devious slut, but by the reckoning of Michelle, Lenore, Kathryn, Phillip and all the other Fairfax girls it is glowing evidence of a strong, confident and admirably independent modern woman.
Please note what Dot pointed out about the separation of powers doctrine. The only way he could have signed the NDAA is if it were first passed by the House of Representatives and then by the Senate. Hint: collectively the two houses are known as the legislative branch. Yes, a President can use his executive power to veto bills which have been passed by Congress, but wouldn’t that – rejecting the will of the peoples’ representatives – be more of a “totalitarian” thing to do than accepting it?
TONY Abbott’s plan to convene a “trumped up, judicial inquiry” into Julia Gillard’s role in the AWU affair would be an unprecedented misuse of executive power, Labor elder John Faulkner has warned.
Previously unseen documents – obtained by The Daily Telegraph – challenge key assertions made by Mr Thomson during his hour-long speech to the parliament in May.
It will be recalled that the Privileges Committee – headed by ex AWU hack, Yvette D’Ath – “cleared” Thomson of lying to Parliament not long after this speech. I said at the time that this was corruption. If there’s anyone awake in Tony Abbott’s office, they need to go after D’Ath.
Breaking: high profile refugee advocate and ten year president of the Refugee Council of Australia arrested for rape and indecent assault of refugees.
He is secretary-general of the International Commission of Jurists (Australian Section) and he is a judicial member of the Equal Opportunity Division of the NSW Administrative Decisions Tribunal. He has been awarded the Paul Cullen Humanitarian Award for his work on behalf on refugees.
I’m not being a smart arse but how exactly does sending someone found guilty of those accusations punish them? Prisons are a bad place and we know the depravity ala sexual abuse that goes on there.
Prosecutors announced on Tuesday they are charging three players, two 15-year-olds and a 16-year-old, with manslaughter, assault and public violence for alleged involvement in a vicious attack on Nieuwenhuizen after a youth match between two local clubs
A high-profile refugee advocate and specialist immigration lawyer has been charged with the sexual and indecent assault of two refugees and two former clients, dating back almost 17 years.
But was he Catholic? And has anyone asked what the role Tony Abbott played in this was?
Take away mining investment and Australia is in recession:
THE economy continued to wind back from the rapid annual pace of growth seen at the start of the year, after expanding by a modest 0.5 per cent in the three months to September 30, the latest figures show.
The annual rate of growth slowed to 3.1 per cent, having raced along above 4 per cent early in 2012, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics national accounts report released today.
The September quarter growth follows an unrevised 0.6 per cent rise in the June quarter.
Economists had expected GDP to rise by 0.6 per cent in the September quarter for an annual rate of 3.1 per cent, according to an AAP survey of 13 economists conducted on Friday.
Macquarie senior economist Brian Redican said the strength of the mining sector was tiding Australia over for the moment, but the economy was likely to weaken in the months ahead.
“This is a fairly sluggish rate of growth, even with mining investment adding to growth, and before the major fiscal cutbacks begin to come through,” he said. “Those cuts are starting to have an impact, but a negative impact, particularly from mining, is just going to get larger through 2013.”
The temporary ruling class, for whom government and the economy are a great big slush fund that never ends, are in for a shock when reality returns and they’re returned to the ghetto.
Does this story about being a “victim” sound familiar:
We are asked to believe that a multimillionaire African-American woman, who boasts that those who “mess” with her end up badly, is a victim of racism for not being welcomed as a nominee for secretary of state — a position that has not been held by a white male in 15 years — after she went on five television shows the Sunday after the Benghazi attack in an effort to convince Americans of the absurd myth that their ambassador had been killed in the course of a demonstration gone bad, rather than being murdered in a preplanned al-Qaedist hit.
It seems the willing surrender of independence by the media in the US & Australia is leading to the same end results.
Mr Grose says he was doubly shocked when he realised the driver was either Indian or Pakistani.
Mr Grose is clearly a moron.
1. You don’t have to be white to be a racist… indeed some of the biggest racists I’ve met haven’t been (and I don’t just mean racist against whites, though there’s certainly that too)
2. Culturally, Indians and Pakistanis are some of the biggest racists outh there – specifically against blacks (they’d be highly offended if you thought they were black – they’re brown, apparently)
3. Taxi drivers deal with fare-evaders, get beaten up and sometimes even killed. They have to make a judgement call, and yes, they will occasionally rely on stereotypes. These “stereotypes” are based on their own experiences. Racist? Perhaps. But hardly shocking – and not even unfounded.
Obama epitomizes a new model of manhood, masculinity forged not as an assertion of power but as an acknowledgement of mutual support and cooperation. He is a man formed not by his own efforts to succeed but from his ability to relate to other people (including his own wife) as equals, a President calling for justice within American society, for the validity of caring for those not as fortunate as ourselves and for true cooperation between political opponents where the social good of all people and the future of the planet are concerned.
This is always code for ‘let’s make sure lefty sanctimony’ is the only one standing.
Umm yeah but no, not this time.
Roxon, Conroy, Finklestein are all cut from the same bloody insidious cloth.
People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don’t run, don’t walk. We’re in their homes and in their heads and we haven’t the right. We’re meddlesome.
What a complete and utter waste of taxpayer resources not to mention the opportunity cost:
The Department of Agriculture has created a new variety of pineapple that tastes like coconut.
Senior horticulturalist Garth Senewski says the AusFestival pineapple has been 10 years in the making and is now in the final stages of production.
“Taste tests tell us that AusFestival is a winner – it has this lovely coconut flavour, which you won’t find in any other pineapple in Australia,” he told the ABC.
They weren’t intending on creating a pineapple that tastes like a coconut. No. Their original aim?
“We’re looking for a nice flavoured pineapple,” he said.
“We’re looking for a variety that is sweet, low acid and aromatic.”
Last time I found a “sweet, low acid and aromatic” pineapple was in Fiji.
People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don’t run, don’t walk. We’re in their homes and in their heads and we haven’t the right. We’re meddlesome.
Right. But getting back to the foundational topic, they’re also in our heads ordering us to believe that a woman is a man.
Then there’ll be demonstrations against exporting live tofu
You mean heartlessly manufacturing bean curd, wedging it into tight-fitting containers and shipping it against its will to countries that don’t observe halal practices.
Seriously, the sooner the Left and Right get out of the sanctimony business, the better.
Sanctimony fighting an unsanctimonious comment.
People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think,…
I completely agree. What I’d like to know is why you concluded in this situation that people who are born, say, male, are entitled to be thought by others a woman if they chose to self-identify as a woman?
He knows nothing of mousse but Tony Abbott can hit the road in a semi-trailer:
He has told the ABC he has had a truck licence for more than a decade as part of his work with the local rural fire brigade.
“Last year I upgraded to a heavy combination, partly because that would help me to drive the bulk water carrier at the local fire brigade but also partly because I thought that it would be useful to be able to highlight the parlous state of our roads,” he said.
“Last year I upgraded to a heavy combination, partly because that would help me to drive the bulk water carrier at the local fire brigade but also partly because I thought that it would be useful to be able to highlight the parlous state of our roads,”
In contrast, Obama probably waxes his balls because he’s an “Omega Man”.
Notice how there’s suddenly an apparently orchestrated narrative of Labor penance in the news? Taking the cake for phoniness is “elder” John Fawkner playing the brave man of reform who says of a Royal Commission into union corruption…
Anything that increases the quality and quantity of sashimi supply and (presumably) lowers the cost is a great leap forward.
Simple Japanese seafood tucker was made for bloated Western palates. It’s exquisite, unbeatable and also lean and good for you. But you always want what you haven’t got: Japan Airlines is now serving McDonalds to appeal to Japanese kids, who can’t get enough Western junk food.
I heard a grab from Abbott on the radio news which said ,
“When Mr Costello spoke, the markets listened, when Mr Swan speaks, the markets ignore him”.
It looks like Abbott & Co are finally starting to put some force into their daily utterances. I hope that this is the beginning of a real ramp up in the way that the Coalition attacks the ALP and their failings.
They really need to be out there belting them every single day until the election.
If the LNP don’t run an ad of Abbott blowing the horn on his rig after encouragement from some kid in the back of a family station wagon, I won’t be voting for them.
Ruh Roh.
It seems a new Pineapple Front has ignited after last year’s Lamington Wars.
Nails colours to mast…
Pineapple on burgers: Never! And ditch the creamy mayo sauces as well while you’re at it.
Pineapple on pizza: Yep but hawaiian only and must have anchovies.
The next PM sitting up straight and making a mile. The radio chatter will be hilarious. I imagine there will be loads of truckies chewing Abbo’s ear on the UHF.
By the time he gets to Ballina he will be whingeing about the boss, the Volvo, mermaids, coppers and caravans.
By the time he gets to Coffs he’ll be chewing his bottom lip, scratching his head and pegging coke bottles out the window..
they’re also in our heads ordering us to believe that a woman is a man.
No. He isn’t.
No they’re not. You can believe anything you like in your own head.
However legal protections or priveleges which we all share are entirely different and worthy of discussion on their own merits.
At the end of the day, does it really matter where a fella parks his pecker?
Between consenting adults, I can’t see why it needs to be anyone else’s business.
Pineapple on pizza is generally a mortal sin, but the insistence on anchovies reduces it to a venial one. In fact, every pizza of any type must have anchovies.
What I’d like to know is why you concluded in this situation that people who are born, say, male, are entitled to be thought by others a woman if they chose to self-identify as a woman?
Dover, to be fair, I made no conclusion whatsoever about that matter.
I agreed with m0nty’s comment that Bolt’s thinking was more in line with a real libertarian. Having a politician being secure enough to not hide their sexuality from society at large as some shameful secret is a sign of societal progress.
If someone wants to identify as a man, woman or third, then frankly I’ll go along with their wishes. Call it the fair go or polite dinner party rule. I’ll afford them as much respect as they offer me.
As for the legal ramifications though (changing rooms, discrimination etc)… that’s still in play I guess. Those are issues society and the law are still grappling to catch up with.
Pineapple – 1 small, cut into slices
Green chillies – 20 de-seeded and chopped (pansies may reduce the number by one or two)
red chillies – 5 as above
Turmeric powder – 1/4 tsp
Salt -1 tsp
Palm Sugar – 2 tbsp
Grated coconut – 1 cup
Cumin seeds – 1/2 tsp
Mustard seeds – 1/4 tsp
Curry leaves – one handful
ghee – 2 tbsp
1)Cook pineapple slices with turmeric powder, chopped chillies, palm sugar and salt.
2)Grind together coconut and cumin seeds.
3)Once pineapple is cooked and becomes soft, add the coconut paste and cook for 5 – 10 minutes.
4)Heat oil in a pan.
5)Add mustard seeds and when they splutter, add red chillies and curry leaves.
6)For adding to pizza, paint this seasoining over the curry slices. If eating as a curry by itself*, pour this seasoning into the above curry.
* in this case serve with rice, pulao or biriyani.
Irrespective, make damned sure you have two large bottles of Kingfisher, Fiji Bitter Blue Marlin or Anchor beer. Or maybe four. If Blue Marlin, consider additional servings and six bottles….
Yeah, six decks of Mickeys mixed up with pikers. Has to load them in the dark on his own with no dog or sparky. And has to poach fuel outa parked graders to get the whole catastrophe to Dinmore. Then he has make sure the last pen trample the dump man on the way out.
Good to see The Goose, Gillard and that Wong chap go through the old Punch and Judy routine about the banks passing on the latest attempt by the RBA to stop the Australian economy coming to a dead halt. As usual they are ignored.
Why don’t they go down and shout at the incoming tide instead?
Candy, zero credit to me, all credit to the Keralans! Pineapple curry is one of the great dishes in the cuisine of Kerala. When living overseas, a very strange Italian fellow (known to all and sundry as ‘Mario the Pizza Fiend’, (worked for ENI) we knew married a Keralan woman (lovely lady).
They both liked to cook – which led to many bunfights, and to some very interesting new dishes!
Keralan/Tuscan fusion with a vengeance.
Once, a demented Texan … there may not be any other kind… called a chili cook-off.
In south-east Asia, this was a supremely dangerous move. I can remember him paling when complimenting one lady on the 1/4″ of ‘grease’ on top of the delicately-reddish chili she had made (with an Orissan twist). In response to his compliment, she said ‘well, I read ‘A Bowl of Red’ and wanted to get the colour right. But there’s no fat in coarsely-minced prawns, so I used a litre of home-ground Chili oil.’
Hot as the hinges on the gates of the City of Dis.
The reason it won was that through that, you could still taste the delicate flavour of the prawns and the fragrant spices. How she achieved that I simply do not know, but the orissans seem to manage that amazing feat routinely.
Pineapple on pizza is generally a mortal sin, but the insistence on anchovies reduces it to a venial one. In fact, every pizza of any type must have anchovies.
No, you just don’t have pineapple on pizza. And yes to anchovies on all pizzas.
Pineapple has no place in a savoury dish. No fruit does.
I hate apricot chicken, duck a l’orange and all those fruity dishes. Sweet and sour pork is the pits. Cranberry sauce has fucked more Christmas turkeys than a pack of foxes. The only one that even gets close to edible is lemon chicken.
Fish on pizzas? That’s weird.
Spose you freaks don’t have peas and worcestershire sauce on your pies either?
Stay down south, you have no place up here in paradise.
Gab, don’t waste concepts like fresh basil, coriander, pitted calamata olives and fresh brie on these primitives. They think Honolulu is the spiritual home of the pizza.
Gab, don’t waste concepts like fresh basil, coriander, pitted calamata olives and fresh brie on these primitives. They think Honolulu is the spiritual home of the pizza.
lol Except for coriander. The herb neds to be erradicated from the face of the earth. Iread once that people can be genetically predisosed to hating coriander. I reckon I have a dozen of those genes.
Best Pizza in Melbourne is found at DOCs in Carlton or Mornington. Try the white pizza with mushrooms . Dfuckinglcious.
Best pizza in the world is at Mimis on Lex and 84th.
There’s a story that Paul McCartney sent his Gulfstram jet to NY to picks some up and ship them back to London. Sounds plausible, but still think it’s bullshit.
Preheat oven to 220c.
Brush chicken well with melted butter, salt and pepper.
Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn.
Place in baking pan with the neck towards the back of the oven.
Listen to the popping sounds.
When the chicken’s arse blows the oven door open, it’s done.
An Italian gentleman with a weakness for scooping anchovies out of the tin with his fingers can be excused an aversion to fresh coriander, which is better suited to cud munchers with English ancestry.
Mk50 – The book on Goan cooking sounds like it would suit the tastes of me and Lady Jugulum. She cooks Japanese (obviously) and i do the BBQ and spicy food.
The book seems like a happy medium for both of us. It’s been ordered. Good tag.
Proper fresh room-temperature French brie is a modern wonder of the world. If it hasn’t been already, a sainthood should be conferred on the frog who invented the D’Affinois brand. Australians should be forbidden from making and marketing what they refer to as “brie”.
The next PM sitting up straight and making a mile. The radio chatter will be hilarious. I imagine there will be loads of truckies chewing Abbo’s ear on the UHF.
Mercy sakes alive… I just had the though of Abbott accidentally getting himself a …
Australians should be forbidden from making and marketing what they refer to as “brie”.
Never had French Brie (does it wave a white flag when you open it?).
However, King Island does a Blue Cheese you would sell your Grandmother to have, it’s sharp & has a real bite with a smooth cream finish. With a nice Pinot it is lush.
Cook your own is fun, and with a good oven (stone helps) you can do wonders. But I have to admit a proper traditional wood fired pizza place can create special and memorable flavours with simple and good ingredients. Like literally slabs of mozzarella, fresh tomato, fresh basil.
Carpe, the surrender monkeys do know more than any other civilisation on earth about making cheese in all its varieties. That and their glorious plonk and their outrageous historic arrogance are the only things to like about them, IMO. My best to Lady Jugs.
Mention of J.W. McCall’s song, Convoy (1975), leads me into thinking about the decline of America. From “just ainta gonna pay no toll” to Obama’s goody two-shoes society of willing statist weaklings.
“Big Ben (Bernanke), this here’s a Sandra Fluke, we just really gotta pay that toll, so we crashed the state using mighty hate, I said ‘let them suckers fold, 10-4′.”
I’ve recently changed my opinion of the French. On two separate occasions I’ve had to do business with some ex-pats and they were straight up bonzer people. I trade a Pom for a Frog any day.
Think about it though. Any Frog prepared to emigrate to Australia is likely to assimilate much faster than a Limey. They will be better looking, have better hygiene and won’t whinge like little pommy bitches.
Re hygiene, I read this story a couple of years ago in the Guardian:
Last year, a poll for tissue manufacturer SCA found that 41% of British men and 33% of women don’t shower every day, with 12% of people only having a proper wash once or twice a week. (These figures place us behind Australia, Mexico and France in the personal hygiene stakes.) Around the same time, research by Mintel found that more than half of British teenagers don’t wash every day – with many opting for a quick spray of deodorant to mask any stink.
PLEASE NOTE: the Guardian presents the phenomenon as a growing, possibly good trend.
CL et al regarding Evan Sayet: he nails it, and it is my essential viewing. That talk, and Bill Whittle’s The Narrative are staples for when I get asked about how we got to where we are now.
I have watched both of them countless times, as they have packed so much valuable information into a format that suits today with its dearth of serious readers.
Then I go on to recommend books: Rodney Stark’s God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades and The Victory of Reason and Lee Harris’s The Suicide of Reason, Radical Islam’s Threat to the West.
Harris’s book is somewhat mistitled (is that a word?) because I didn’t find there was much about islam in it. Not that is an issue, as I prefer my own situation. I’ve got the quran and the Reliance, so there’s not much else I need on that front.
I recently watched a show on SBS I think called Coastline where they visited a coastal town in France where most of Frances’ onions are grown. The same place where the famous Onion Johnnies travelled over to England to sell onions.
They would load up their bicycles and ride from town to town. Some would spend 3-6 months at a time doing this.
Why do they call a Pizza with ham and egg an Aussie Pizza?
I could understand if the meat was Kangaroo or Wombat and the cheese was made from Dugong milk or even if the pizza base was made of damper but what’s so Australian about pork and egg?
Nothing more tragic than a bunch of people running around tearing their hair out over what a pizza really is. It’s whatever the eater wants it to be, really. And pineapple is magnificent in cooked dishes, if you can get good pines (hint, if you live south of paradise, you’re getting the crap ones) and you know what to do with them. It’s the acid in the pineapples that can cut through a greasy dish and bring it alive. That’s why it rocks with Pizza that also has salty things like ham.
As for the froggies, the Comte cheese is yellow stinky heaven. And I have a serious thing for Cotes du Rhone reds. It all goes back to a chalet in the Alps, a night of Raclette and a serious lapse of judgement leading to a bottle of Absinthe, in which a friend of mine burnt of his eyebrows. But I’ve loved the cote du rhone ever since.
Tofu is great on a pizza for those of us who don’t eat red meat but there must be lashings of mushrooms capsicum and tomatoes to give it oomph plus paprika and other spices etc feta is great
Cooked pineapple is an abomination. It should be taken out and shot*. Raw pineapple is okay.
On burgers: pineapple is revolting, and since I’m not a huge pizza fan I used to order a ham and pineapple without the pineapple. Now I go the meat lovers with extra sauce.
Pizza was and is peasant food for Italian labourers: a destination for leftovers from the fridge (and the meat cooler before it). That’s why it’s so tasty and full of carbs. Workers’ food as creative as you want it to be. Yum. *Burb*.
There is a report out of Tasmania claiming that the fox problem there is at a tipping point, about to get beyond control. This, and previous reports, have prompted baiting programs which have led to the deaths of dogs and perhaps other animals.
A slight problem with this is that there have been no actual foxes trapped or sighted in Tasmania, nor wild or farm animals killed by foxes. The evidence for the alleged problem is based on very uncertain DNA samples, and the tipping point alarm is the output of a computer model.
There was a time in my youth when you could walk into just about any McDonalds and find a pickle montage stuck to the ceiling where traditional hamburger refuseniks would open a big mac, remove the pickles and flick them into the air quicker than a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
Having the correct amount of Mayo on the pickle was the key to successful adhesion.
Bill Warner’s Why We Are Afraid is another to add to your list of things you must see. Gates of Vienna with VladTepesBlog have also been putting together a rosetta stone for this talk. So far they’ve got it subtitled into 11 languages other an english.
I’m a pizza libertarian. You can put anything the hell you want on your pizza as long as you don’t force me to eat it, and I’d like you to afford me the same privilege.
Back home I’ve been known to make pizza with leftover fried chicken, bacon, collard greens, sliced okra and pimento cheese on it. To each his own.
There is a report out of Tasmania claiming that the fox problem there is at a tipping point, about to get beyond control. This, and previous reports, have prompted baiting programs which have led to the deaths of dogs and perhaps other animals.
Sound familiar? Yes it does.
Sounds like they need to call in the army like they did in WA during the so called “Emu wars”.
Hilarious to think that they managed to destroy more crops through machine gun fire than what the Emus had actually ravaged.
The best pizza I can recommend is a thin base, bolognese sauce, baby spinach, smoked salmon, capers, pepperoni, chicken, mushroom and onion, oregano and a mix of gorgonzola, mozarella and cheddar.
Add olives or anchovies as desired and do not overtop it.
The perfect mix of sweet and salty.
If you get a store bought pizza, someone out there in consumer land said Eagle Boys.
Reverted back to fake coffee, CL? What happened to your slight progress towards entertaining the concept of real coffee, the Robert Timms bags? There’s just no hope for you.
My favourite trucking song:I Drive A Truck by TISM off Great Truckin’ Songs of the Renaissance. Go to 29.35 for song 11.
Actually Nilk, I have always liked the next song. As far as an, in your face, upset your mum, punk song goes, it ranks only second to that great standard of the Brisbane band the Black Assassins “F*ck me, F*ck my dog”
Oh & Mk50 glad to see you finally worked out the difference between St John’s & St Stephen’s
Obama (the New Man) and the drones. The New Yorker is solid left, imagine what they would be saying if Bush had pursued this kind of drone warfare.
I don’t usually have time for Ralph Nader but he appears to be onto something here.
Let’s focus here on his major expansion of drone warfare in defiance of international law, statutory law and the Constitution. Obama’s drones roam over multiple nations of Asia and Africa and target suspects, both known and unknown, whom the president, in his unbridled discretion, wants to evaporate for the cause of national security.
More than 2,500 people have been killed by Obama’s drones, many of them civilians and bystanders, including American citizens, irrespective of the absence of any “imminent threat” to the United States.
irrespective of the absence of any “imminent threat” to the United States.
But but but Rafe, the One (TM) was a constitutional lecturer. He would never wipe his arse with the Bill of Rights and use the constitution of the USA as a napkin. /sarc
NEW Zealand has invented a creative way to reduce unemployment – fund Kiwis’ one-way airfares to Australia so they can find work and not be paid the dole back home.
Pizza is what the progeny always, always trotted out when I’d visit after doing business in Sydney. Take away pizza. You’d do as well by merely eating the cardboard carton.
I detest pizza, despise it, run far away from it as a consequence of that traumatic period. You cannot eat it with chopsticks, which I’ve used for 20 odd years. Ya can’t have it with rice and lemon and soy – that just doesn’t work.
I could have knocked up a passable stir fry for them with whatever I found in their pantries notwithstanding the kitchen hand, like most Asians, forbids me doing anything in her domain and I’d have to prepare based on observation only. I could even bring a whole schnapper with me, bake it and dish it up with rice and bok choy etc for them – delicious! – but no, it was “What pizza do you want Dad – the bland, the innocuous, the insipid or the beige?”
They’ve matured and enjoy real food now but I’m still recovering.
I remember back in 70s the old style Pizza Hut pizzas which were thin and crispy with tasty light pizza sauce, not tomato paste. It was a real treat for us kids to go and sit at their red and white checkered tables with the fat red candles and chomp away at a supreme.
Sadly, Pizza Hut pizzas today are bland and unsatisfying and their restaurants have all the appeal of a food court.
No they’re not. You can believe anything you like in your own head.
Oh, so what was “People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think,…” about? If people can believe anything they like in their own head they can never be told what to think.
At the end of the day, does it really matter where a fella parks his pecker?
Between consenting adults, I can’t see why it needs to be anyone else’s business.
We were never talking about ‘pecker parking’, and even when it is between consenting adults, it certainly may be other people’s business, say, the business of the adulterer’s wife or husband, and thus also our business because we grant certain privileges to those who are married and have publicly vowed to remain faithful to each other.
Having a politician being secure enough to not hide their sexuality from society at large as some shameful secret is a sign of societal progress.
Except that no one was concerned with the Senator’s lesbianism. Still, do you think that every disclosure of one’s sexual peccadilloes would be a sign of societal progress? That one Senator or MHR likes dogging, and that another likes BDSM, and that another likes golden showers, and so on. Progress?
If someone wants to identify as a man, woman or third, then frankly I’ll go along with their wishes. Call it the fair go or polite dinner party rule. I’ll afford them as much respect as they offer me.
As for the legal ramifications though (changing rooms, discrimination etc)… that’s still in play I guess.
Let me start with the last. Firstly, the only reason those things are in play is because of your polite dinner party rule. Secondly, when did affording someone respect mean that you simply played along with what was obviously absurd? Think of yourself in the Crying Game scenario, would you simply have continued to respect ‘her’ chosen self-identification and played along?
Pineapple on pizza is generally a mortal sin, but the insistence on anchovies reduces it to a venial one. In fact, every pizza of any type must have anchovies.
Having the correct amount of Mayo on the pickle was the key to successful adhesion.
I found a better solution was to dip the pickles in a mixture of the sweet’n'sour sauce (from the McNuggets) and a few drops of Coke.
This made a glue like solution which would enable the pickles to stick to anything, and once dried became almost impossible to remove.
AN ambitious scheme giving welfare recipients matched savings if they can save $500 has failed spectacularly in its first two years, with only 20 people receiving money.
THE woman who claimed Tony Abbott punched a wall next to her head in the 1970s has agreed not to take legal action over being called a “left-wing lunatic”, her legal team replacing the phrase with “extreme” lunatic instead.
Nice to know that they acknowledge being left wing is the same as being extreme.Maquarie Dictionary have been notified.
Ms Ramjan, a rival student politician to Mr Abbott at the time of the alleged incident in 1977, is suing over claims, including that she is “a serial manufacturer of false complaints against her political opponents”.
Also gratifying to know local manufacturing is still thriving despite overseas competition.
A former Labor MP who blew the whistle on Gillard’s corrupt boyfriend in 1995 is in the process of making a statement to Victorian fraud squad detectives:
A KEY witness in the Australian Workers Union scandal warned Julia Gillard’s ex-boyfriend Bruce Wilson in 1995 he would “go to the slammer”.
Bob Smith, a former Labor MP and AWU Victorian state secretary, made the explosive claim in an affidavit filed by union supremo Bill Ludwig.
Legal documents from 1995 reveal Mr Smith advised the AWU’s national executive that “criminal charges” were likely following allegations of financial impropriety.
Mr Smith was the first to blow the whistle on Mr Wilson’s role in establishing a series of unauthorised union accounts and drew attention to alleged fraud at a meeting of the union’s finance committee in August 1995.
A former Labor MP who blew the whistle on Gillard’s corrupt boyfriend in 1995 is in the process of making a statement to Victorian fraud squad detectives
Wow, it seems you have to be a former Labor MP to be willing to cooperate with police.
The simmering resentment against Gillard inside cabinet is approaching terminal:
“It’s not her party, it’s ours; it’s not her government, it’s ours,” one of them said later as he complained about her “pigheadedness and stubbornness”…
“She hasn’t got good instincts…”…
Another of her diehard supporters frankly concedes the damage inflicted by the opposition’s onslaught on the AWU and, regardless of any missteps it may have made, it succeeded in its prime objective of reinforcing all the prejudices against Gillard.
A former Labor MP who blew the whistle on Gillard’s corrupt boyfriend in 1995 is in the process of making a statement to Victorian fraud squad detectives
This is now becoming like a modern day “pass the parcel” game at a kids party where every layer unwrapped holds a prize. Here’s hoping that when the music finally stops for the last time the parcel is in the hands of Julia.
Australia is not a country like Greece. We have come through the crisis better than most; avoiding recession, keeping people in work and maintaining modest growth. This was no accident. It was the result of massive, timely and effectively targeted government intervention.
How’s that for wrongology?
The sooner these mentally defective moonbats are consigned to the rubbish bin of history, the better.
Here comes the economic shitstorm that the Canberra rabble has, at best, been ignoring or, at worst, contributing to:
The slump in prices of Australia’s mining exports has cut national income at the fastest pace since the global financial crisis or the recession of the early 1990s, jeopardising the Gillard government’s surplus and threatening to drive up unemployment.
Real gross domestic product, which measures the amount of goods and services produced in the economy, grew 0.5 per cent in the three months ended September 30, the smallest gain in six quarters.
Real gross domestic income – the purchasing power of what the economy produces – fell 0.4 per cent in the quarter. Treasurer Wayne Swan blamed this on a “pretty savage” slump in the terms of trade, which was pushed down by lower prices for iron ore, coal, and other commodities.
John Faulkner was saying on Fran’s RN show that it’s “self-evident” that NSW Labor is in a mess. Apparently no problem federally, though. That’s a relief. Must just be bad luck, all those aspects of our nation that are falling in a hole.
Dover, the italicised meddling comment was a quote was from the Firefly based movie Serenity, a point someone else picked up on. Generally speaking, it seemed to apply pretty well to nanny staters and moralist conservatives alike as both can have collectivist enforcement tendencies.
Without casting nasturtiums, I’ve met a lot of people who seemed troppo, eccentric, dissonant or different. Underneath, they’re just as banal and normal as anyone else. So maybe my absurdity or TMI filter kicks in a little later is all.
AN ambitious scheme giving welfare recipients matched savings if they can save $500 has failed spectacularly in its first two years, with only 20 people receiving money.
This is quite sad actually, I won’t gloat over this one.
They have been conditioned not to save whilst at the same time ALP policy has brought on cruel increases in the cost of living.
They have been conditioned not to save whilst at the same time ALP policy has brought on cruel increases in the cost of living.
and how easy – or more likely hard – was it to apply and receive the matched savings ?
If it is like the rest of the government form-a-thon, you would need a degree in systems analysis and advanced English language skills to navigate the paperwork.
I am of course willing to be convinced otherwise, but I’ll bet a lot of the potential clientele for this initiative couldn’t navigate the system.
Yeah – this will make a difficult and troubled industry better:
Following a taxi driver’s refusal to take a fare from indigenous singer Gurrumul, Allan Fels is calling for taxi companies to be made legally responsible for their drivers.
Endgame – pile on enough red tape, green tape and blue tape – and the private sector disappears.
We can doubtless look forward to industry superfunds partnering with the government to introduce AustCab – the federal taxi equivalent of the NBN.
If it is like the rest of the government form-a-thon, you would need a degree in systems analysis and advanced English language skills to navigate the paperwork.
I am of course willing to be convinced otherwise, but I’ll bet a lot of the potential clientele for this initiative couldn’t navigate the system.
This is the current ALP attitude. If something requires more training, it MUST increase productivity.
Ah yes monty, Monckton is an idiot because he has a congenital condition – tell me did he agree to use an air scrubber 24/7 like some of the delegates?
Derp, two things, neither CL nor I were moralizing, and there seems to be rather a clear correlation between increasing social liberalism and increasing collectivization.
Following a taxi driver’s refusal to take a fare from indigenous singer Gurrumul, Allan Fels is calling for taxi companies to be made legally responsible for their drivers.
Completely moronic suggestion… so ALP will probably support it.
I am probably going to hate myself for when the ALP Catallaxy Monitoring Support Group turns this in to policy but…
The obvious way to get the vehicle unions on side is to require specialist, unique vehicles to be built in Australia that will be safe for the drivers, safe for the passengers and – kaching – sustainable, thereby requiring further massive taxpayer subsidies to the car manufacturing scam to ‘encourage’.
My consoling thought is – if I have figured out where this is going – they already have and are just awaiting the right moment of public outrage to announce the new policy.
In a sense I was moralising, Dover. We were discussing a ‘lesbian’ who is partnered to a woman pretending to be a man. Andrew Bolt said the acceptance of these clearly disturbed individuals – one as a senator – was a sign of progress. No. It is, rather, a sign of our society’s infantilism and unwillingness to stare down the Maoist bullying of media-favoured freaks. The senator’s partner is not a man, never has been a man and never will be a man – left-wing gender-bender birtherism notwithstanding. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing ‘libertarian’ about accepting – and being forced to accept – a bizarre untruth. So yes, we can say that the mainstreaming of the ‘transgendered’ is immoral. The rejection of it, along with Senator Pratt’s weirdly contrived ideological corollaries – chief of which is her incongruous advocacy of gay ‘marriage’ – is morally superior.
It’s hilarious that he’s wearing a bedsheet and handtowel while the blokes behind him are wearing Western suits. Who is trying to fit in with whom?
M0nty, as your favourite writer Mark Steyn is often quoted as saying:
We tell ourselves that, in a multicultural society, the nice gay couple at Number 27 and the polygamous Muslim with four child-brides in identical niqabs at Number 29 Elm Street can live side by side, each contributing to the rich, vibrant tapestry of diversity.
Seeing we have to accept that one of our senators truly is married to a women who is now a man, why can’t an English aristocrat wear what he likes when in a Persion Gulf Emirite?
Me-thinks you are showing a bit of cultural insensitivity there M0nty.
“The [Hall] offences are alleged to have been committed between 1974 and 1984 and to involve three girls aged between 9 and 16 years,” police said in a statement.
Hall has been released on bail and will appear before magistrates on January 7, police said.
Interesting that no Murdoch staff have been accused of raping children.
Biff Latham truly seems to be moving his emotional slider bar back into the red zone:
The prolific Herald-Sun columnist Andrew Bolt, for instance, has made scores of mistakes because he is intellectually incapable of treating Julia Gillard fairly.
I thought they’d had a pleasant, smoke-the-peace-pipe lunch together recently ?
errors abound – so many in fact I have decided to write a book about media incompetence, using Slater & Gordon as a representative case study.
The biggest issue around is errors about S&G ??
Hopefully, a decade from now, newspapers and TV news bulletins will no longer exist, having gone the way of record players and typewriters.
So what is the point of writing a book full of helpful analysis about an industry whose demise you keenly anticipate ??
AN ambitious scheme giving welfare recipients matched savings if they can save $500 has failed spectacularly in its first two years, with only 20 people receiving money.
And in other news of Gillard lies and ceaseless fail:
THE business lobby’s big victory in eradicating ‘’green tape’’ has collapsed as the Gillard government shelves controversial plans to hand over environmental decision-making to the states.
Worst prime minister in the history of the Commonwealth.
The prolific Herald-Sun columnist Andrew Bolt, for instance, has made scores of mistakes because he is intellectually incapable of treating Julia Gillard fairly.
Seeing we have to accept that one of our senators truly is married to a women who is now a man, why can’t an English aristocrat wear what he likes when in a Persion Gulf Emirite?
He can wear what he likes, Token, but he’s not immune from commentary. Free speech, remember?
Perhaps Mark Latham is just gathering publicity for a new book and so is saying outrageous things to get people interested to buy it.
I don’t think he has a proper job.
He can wear what he likes, Token, but he’s not immune from commentary. Free speech, remember?
I actually think it is great you linked to Monkton and made your comment.
I got a big chuckle from it. Poltiical Correctness has stifled so much of the charming and bizarre English eccentricity which I enjoyed in my younger years.
Right. Libertarians who dimiss ‘social policy’ are accepting the growth of the Sandra Fluke, NARAL mega-state. They are statists.
Statists compared to whom?
That’s a stretch. B/C I accept that, I agree to full taxpayer funding of gender reassignment surgery and contraception? Pfft!!
AN ambitious scheme giving welfare recipients matched savings if they can save $500 has failed spectacularly in its first two years, with only 20 people receiving money.
I think this was well worth the $10,000 to prove that many financial problems are spending and discipline related rather than a lack of income. Even the hardest up welfare family should have been a le to put away $500 in the anticipation of a 100% return on investment.
One of my friends bought me an authentic Saudi sheet and headdress thing, it’s a hoot at costume parties, of which I normally despise. Could ever pull off the gold rimmed sunnies though.
Then there was the time we – as in group of yoofs – entered a neighbour’s property when they were away to “liberate” the fish from their own rock pool/waterfall prison and set them free in the larger swimming pool…
He can wear what he likes, Token, but he’s not immune from commentary. Free speech, remember?
You’re once again engaging in Hate Speech and bigotry against another culture. First it was those funny asians and their weird utensils now your poking fun at the clothes that half a billion people wear.
How paternalistic is that though?! And why should taxpayers’ money be spent on this ridiculous scheme?
They, the wealthy Canberra technocratic elite were just trying to use a carrot on a stick to teach the welfare class to be better people – like them.
In the retread of the 1900′s that we seem to be taking they’ll soon reject the paternalistic idea that the welfare class can be “helped” and will start advocating for eugenics again.
I think this was well worth the $10,000 to prove that many financial problems are spending and discipline related rather than a lack of income. Even the hardest up welfare family should have been a le to put away $500 in the anticipation of a 100% return on investment.
Only a minority of welfare recipients were able to use the scheme though – those on income management. And they had to save the full $500 over 13 weeks – $40/week (which had to come from their non-income managed income) for those already on very low incomes probably is quite difficult.
If you read the full article there was another scheme that would match up to $500 but participants could set a lower goal amount. And 83% of participants succeeded.
I’m only racist against stupid people, 26. People who are smart enough to know better, but act stupid. The wilfully ignorant. People who use apostrophes in nouns. People like you.
a group of yoofs – entered a neighbour’s property when they were away to “liberate” the fish from their own rock pool/waterfall prison and set them free in the larger swimming pool…
Gab, I wonder how long your neighbores were “befuddled fish fate seekers” after their return home?
I’m only racist against stupid people, 26. People who are smart enough to know better, but act stupid. The wilfully ignorant. People who use apostrophes in nouns. People like you.
Ah grammar nazism: the last refugee of the cowed internet beta male.
It’s a little weird that you, who after three years of failing still can’t read my screen name is calling me stupid because of punctuation in a blog comment.
Then I suppose it’s like you calling other people bigots and racists then laughing at other cultures clothing and utensils.
It’s that time of year when Fox News and other conservative media outlets revive their imaginary “War on Christmas.” But the actual threat to one Christmas tradition comes from something more insidious than Fox’s perceived attacks: Extreme drought, fueled by climate change, has hit the Christmas tree market.
Nice work there, notice how they backhand Fox whilst they handwring about a dry year.
In the retread of the 1900′s that we seem to be taking they’ll soon reject the paternalistic idea that the welfare class can be “helped” and will start advocating for eugenics again.
Surely that experiment is still running? The remote enclaves of Northern and Central Australia; where freedom to identify as Australian, participate in mainstream and marry of one’s choice have been curtailed since the re-tribalisation program began.
A eugenics program which was effected through a strictly controlled permit system, bi-lingual education focused on selective cultural matters, select academic output which could not be verified by others, and all thought and speech funneled through the dear leaders. With any person trying to discuss the horror of it all, promptly silenced.
In the comments at the CAGW Christmas tree edition was this piece of spam:
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Best friend’s half sister? Talk about 6 degrees of separation. I thought it was usually a sister in law making the crazy dough for just a few hours work.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet, but Jazz legend Dave Brubeck passed away over night. His album Time Out was the album that got me into jazz in the first place.
When the needle dropped on this track it opened up a world I’d never explored
Look at m0nty dishing out insults?!? Do you ever learn………..?
Well here goes…… did se7en’s script writers have that picture of you playing golf m0nty when they came up with this?
“m0nty? Innocent of trolling? Is that supposed to be funny? An obese man… a disgusting man who could barely stand up; a man who if you saw him on the street, you’d point him out to your friends so that they could join you in mocking him; a man, who if you saw him while you were eating, you wouldn’t be able to finish your meal…..”
That’s what HIA, in total exasperation, calls me re learning computer stuff with any competence and depth or recall. He shows me, I immediately forget.
You work on folklore, Lizzie, he says despairingly. Like your girlfriends.
Whatever it takes. I get there in the end and my brain remains happily at rest.
I’m only racist against stupid people, 26. People who are smart enough to know better, but act stupid. The wilfully ignorant. People who use apostrophes in nouns. People like you.
You mean, stupid people who cannot use chopsticks?
I’m only racist against stupid people, 26. People who are smart enough to know better, but act stupid. The wilfully ignorant. People who use apostrophes in nouns. People like you.
Bloated one, stop lying.
You’ve made what are perhaps the most racist comments at this blog.
Are you ready for my triumphant return, rising out of the Earth on the shoulders of Gaia (who looks a little like Julia Gillard, to my surprise) to smite the wrongness of Catallaxy, and to note in passing from this thread that it seems Gab really was a bit of a ratbag in her younger days? (I doubt that’s ban-worthy, is it? So hard to tell these days…)
Dogshit thinks his banning was a “tumultuous event”. No-one noticed for days, after which it became apparent the Cat was no longer a troll sewer and people celebrated. Now the owner has decided it’s good for the blog to reduce its habitability by allowing back trolls whose only purpose in being here is to pick fights. At least Monty has an intellect, DaveF. You’re not very discriminating.
Also shed some light. We were informed that really you’re a sad single bloke, not married, no children, right in the m0nty mould. With mental issues, too many to mention, one of which is harrassing people personally through e-mails.
Here’s a story for CL and d-b, because it sounds like a conservative Catholic fantasy: yes, a society really exists where there appears to be no homosexuality, or even masturbation. And no, it’s not the Vatican.
Of course, the trick to having a place like this is to not wear much in the way of clothes, have sex with your spouse 3 or 4 times a night, and be able to sleep it off during the day. (It doesn’t mention it, but I also suspect it involves boys marrying or otherwise regularly sleeping with girls by age 14 or so.)
So yes, you too can arrange a society with no gays or masturbation, at the cost of never having friends over for a dinner party, because you’re too busy in the bedroom.
They probably put on very poor quality musical theater shows as well.
Moving on: did anyone notice that solar power seems to be having a significant impact on peak demand (at least in rural Queensland, says Ergon.) We’ve had to wait for a hot summer to find out, but still.
I wonder if this will work for the cities as well…
Mr McLeod said while increasing power prices have contributed to lower peak loads, the reduction is also down to customers conserving energy and using more efficient appliances.
People can’t afford power so they avoid the air con. Doesn’t fit the Joy Of Solar narrative, I suppose.
Mr McLeod said while increasing power prices have contributed to lower peak loads, the reduction is also down to customers conserving energy and using more efficient appliances.
People can’t afford power so they avoid the air con. Doesn’t fit the Joy Of Solar narrative, I suppose.
So within five minutes of stevie being back he’s already posted his trademark lie with a link attached. I.e lower peak demand having nought to do with solar and everything to do with decent, hardworking Australians being forced back to a 1950′s living standard by vicious religious nutters.
DaveF: it says the mid afternoon peak demand has dropped. I’m not sure, but does mid afternoon peak happen when kids get home from school and turn the aircon on? I wouldn’t be surprised if solar power helps in that way, as there would be plenty of power still coming from them in Queensland in summer until (I would guess) 5pm or so.
Wow: carbon pricing leads to people being careful to buy more efficient electrical items. Who’d have guessed?
I said a few months back: I reckon the problem for the Coalition may well be that they wanted carbon pricing scrapped before the time it would be obvious that it works. That time is approaching fast.
And btw, just as there is a “pensioner who can only afford to live on dog food” story on the tabloid current affairs programs about once every 18 months, there will be stories of pensioners sitting in a hot house cause they won’t turn the electricity on. Doesn’t mean much, though.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Sinc, say it ain’t so.
Sorry, Huckleberry but perhaps the world will end on December 21st. Mind you, the magnificent Doomlord did take SFB off the leash about a day after The Ban of 2012. However, SFB sulked about it for days before darkening our doorstep.
What congenital condition requires him to dress like an oil sheik, Dot?
Since every single male Arab working in Doha, Bahrain, the UAE, KSA, and other Gulf states dresses daily in that attire, he wouldn’t have stood out and in fact would have been a hit with his Arab counterparts. I know, because I have been known to wear an abaya at social gatherings.
By the way, the observation that none of the other men in the shot is wearing a dish dash and gutra is irrelevant, since none of them is an Arab. If the camera had photographed an Arab, they would have been dressed like the Monckster.
I was in Doha last week. Apart from the business attire, it doesn’t feel like the real Middle East. More like a clean version of the Gold Coast, with no tattoed scum walking the streets.
It’s quite noticeable how the open forum was a lot less full of troll droppings this week, at least until about 3.23pm today. Sinc didn’t have to do the usual Wednesday sluice out and start a new one.
I know, because I have been known to wear an abaya at social gatherings.
Conferences too?
Sorry, Monckton’s a wanker who hams it up for the camera. There is plenty of pre-existing evidence forthat. He fancies himself Lawrence of Arabia, I expect; although whether he likes his buttocks thrashed by his man servant is something I don’t care to know.
SfB you pathetic waste of space.
Did your banning not teach you anything?
You have been back for 2 hours and have made at least 3 posts with direct sexual connotations.
Grow up, get your mind out of the gutter and fuck off back to the hole that you have been in for the last week.
I love the way that the commenter who most frequently makes appalling taste comments about Bob Brown, or any Lefty politician who is gay, decides to act all prissy at the mention of the words “homosexuality” and “masturbation”.
I see there has been yet another gruesome double murder in South Australia. This one involves a dwarf camel jockey.
OH&S rules have caught up with body in the barrel murderers.
AS/NZ 2012.8972: Because of lifting weight restrictions bodies must now only be able to fit in a sealable plastic container with carry handle not exceeding 40 kg capacity. Larger containers may be used providing approved mechanical lifting devices are employed and a full risk assesment has been conducted. A limit of three per container or 200 litres of volume whichever is greater.
No Abu, just immeasurably tiresome, banal, and uninteresting. Most of teh time I simply skip anything he posts. He never has anything to say that’s worth anything.
Here we go. IQ49 (to borrow a Tillman-ism) only a couple of days ago:
My better half wandered past as I was chuckling, asked why and without missing a beat said ‘Well that’d make Bob Brown the Tasmanian freckle boner and Miss Prissy Milne the communist sickle honer.’ And then she continued on her merry way.
Much like the sex shop that has two for one specials on buttplugs and gimp masks, the commentators who are decrying the return of Stevie B are only giving him what he wants.
If you get banned again for being a little bantam cock prancing around and pleased with himself for being just a tiny bit Mr. Sleazy (just because you can), you will not in that event get any more of my hospital/prison visits to your lonely bloggie home. The charity of some extended further, even to emailing Sinc to permit your return. Probation is the word, Stevie, probation.
Gab is a lady and ladies are never ‘ratbags’. Goodness me, no.
Gee, I dunno, Lizzie. I thought the Atlantic article (yeah, real porno material there) about that African tribe was interesting and amusing (the bit about their very active middle aged sex lives.)
Surely CL is not buying it for himself: the International Roast drinking, Winnie Blue smoking, Carlton Draft drinking middle aged bachelor who thinks men wearing a wedding ring is a sign of poofy weakness? I think it’s a gift for some bloke he suspects is gay.
Hey Step… you realize that if we were back in Roman times and I was in charge of the Colosseum (which of course I would be) I would have fed you to the lions by now. You’re fully aware of that, right?
But I did read somewhere that Tony Abbott had read ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’, unlike Julia Gillard. One of the handbag hit squad said she had read it, but implied it did nothing for her. If she actually did read it, take it on my authority: she was lying.
Meanwhile, Tony’s keeping up with the 20 million women in the female Zeitgeist who have also read it. But it’s not the sort of book that guys usually enjoy.
2000 years ago, it would have been the height of civilisation and order to feed human rubbish to carnivores in the animal world. Nowadays, in spite of its hatred of the human race, the left’s human detritus is kept alive as an act of compassion.
2000 years ago, it would have been the height of civilisation and order to feed human rubbish to carnivores in the animal world. Nowadays, in spite of its hatred of the human race, the left’s human detritus is kept alive as an act of compassion foolishness.
We could be back to the good ol’days with stocks. Although I don’t think it was the reason, Citigroup, a big stock % in my portfolio, was up around 7% on the day. The reason ascribed was their announcement of laying off 11,000.
Lefties hated that in the 90′s. Firms made an announcement of big layoffs and the stock would soar.
Do I need to buy a Glock at the airport for protection? Any pointers.
Probably not. Be alert – there are a lot of people standing around doing nothing. Avoid going out at night. Stay in touristy areas. Avoid Johannesburg as much as possible.
I was told there are 16,000 murders a year in your country of birth. I was also told there are 16,000 car fatalities and people drive like nut balls on the highway. It was suggested to me to hire a really big car…. No advice on a gun though.
Heh – flight very bumpy this time of year – you fly through the thunderstorms. A lot of fun if you like that sort of thing. Cape Town in much better. If you stay in the Victoria and Albert centre you should be fine.
Wifey is leaving this weekend and driving herself and a girlfriend out of Capetown to some place. This has me a little worried now. I’m not going to tell her what you said for obvious reasons.
What Sinc said about keeping car doors locked. The wonderful ex-blog South Africa Sucks had many reports of cases where people made the mistake of opening their windows or leaving the doors unlocked.
A friend of mine was over there recently on family business, and she’s a rather unassuming lady. She mentioned in passing how she “did have a scary moment” when she and a friend were driving through town and a fellow outside the car gestured towards her wheel, as if trying to draw her attention to a flat tyre or something.
She got the hell out of Dodge in that situation, and the fellow left behind did not look very happy or friendly after that.
make sure she packs for you before she leaves. We don’t want a repeat panic of the pre-NYC packing
All done Gab. Thanks for asking. Won’t ever go through last time panic packing.
Sinc
Yes – if you fly to George fly with South African Airways – they have never crashed into the mountain there.
WTF. I’m getting driven to George and Wifey is driving the day after she arrives. This is getting me worried. She’s has lots of common sense, but being a gal, she’s obviously a hammerhead.
Have you got a gay wedding to go to, JC?
No, it’s not a gay wedding, Stepford. And if it were I’d go. That stuff doesn’t worry me as much as it does with you, you pipsqueak. You can marry a baboon for all I care.
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On the subject of baboons a dude was telling me they have learnt how to open car door and car windows too. Smart little fuckers.
Re baboons and cars, you can see them in action from 5:50 at this Youtube (the show was recently on SBS). The opening few minutes also show them raiding homes.
George is a hell of a hike from CPT – 6-8 hrs, I’d reckon. George has regular SAA flights from JNB. Simpler to fly straight there from JNB. (filter doesn’t like my SAA timetable link).
Stay away from baboons and monekys anywhere is my opinion. Do not wear sunglasses or hats. Do not carry bags of any sort amnd above all do not feed the little blighters and do not buy food from anyone to feed monkeys or baboons of any sort, anywhere, internationally.
The little bastards are smart and if you dont have food or or a bag, your sunglasses or hat are a good trade to them and they move so much faster than us humanoids could dream of.
Best to have nothing tradeable on you when dealing with monkeys or baboons.
It just occurred to me – why don’t rich home use an electric fence to keep them out. Turns out that some do. The page lists other potential baboon deterrents, most of which don’t work, but there are some odd ideas that have been tried, it seems:
Paint one baboon white and other baboons will flee from the area because they are afraid of the white baboon.
I can see why your agent booked you to fly to CPT, JC. It’s a weird sched JNB-CPT – no departures after 4pm – too early for arrivals from SYD and PER, so CPT overnight required. However, 3 SAA flights per day CPT-GRJ (45 minutes). Book that.
“Paint one baboon white and other baboons will flee from the area because they are afraid of the white baboon.
And while you are dilly dallying and busying your silly self painting one baboon white the other baboons will have picked your pocket and sunglasses and hat clean into the trees.
It’s a weird sched JNB-CPT GRJ – no departures after 4pm – too early for arrivals from SYD and PER, so CPT overnight required. However, 3 SAA flights per day CPT-GRJ (45 minutes). May still need planning.
I really dunno how the fuck I got dragged into this freaking trip, but I did. Wifey harassed me for days on end (begged is more accurate) how I have become so boring that the only trips I would ever consider are NYC and a couple of big cities in Europe. I suggested Florida and the Caribbean is fine with me too.
I came home and the Doctor had kittens when I told him. Potential rabies. I had the treatment (deadset it was purple coloured injections) with a strict instruction “If you at any time have an abhorrance of water contact me IMMEDIATELY.”
He was deadly serious but I think a bit of a panic monger.
JC
You do know we expect a full comparison between SA and Aust upon your return.
Just the usual stuff.
Personal freedoms, foreign investment guidelines, people you argued with at parties, technological advances, food, services, racism, abortion laws, trade restrictions …etc…
I was in Serth Efrica for a week about six years ago, went to Kruger via Jo’berg – took very bumpy flight from Capetown; do stay at airport hotel, don’t go into town. Then take big landrover to Kruger – that is OK, but saw a carjack happen on the way. Salutory. Capetown – all advice above is to be heeded. A careless friend of mine got mugged there for his wallet. Lucky to be alive, I thought.
Capetown is a very beautiful and historic place, Table Mountain a knockout mountain, Franschoek wineries very pleasant dining etc, and Constantia a good place in Capetown to stay with friends, plus there are some public gardens near there which are rather special too (can’t remember their name).
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Stevie, I don’t read erotica much. I do quite well enough without it. However, Fifty Shades is a social phenomenon, and I am nothing if not social.
Tose Balinese monkeys ARE OUT OF CINTROL!! never go to see balnese monkeys on ANY tour that promises “see the monkeys”
The tours have been at thisgame for twenty plus years and its like human victms waking into an ambush by now (conditioned monkeys) every time the tour bus stops (how the balinese must laugh at this but still sell the hapless tourists the bags of peanuts etc).
Ever seem a monlkey take the whole bag of a lady – scrtamble to the top of a tree and throw iut its contents, item by item including sole tampons?
I have – it was pretty funny at the time!!! LOL
It was raining tampons from the top of the rees!!
Poor girl on tour was so embarrassed! I was killing myself laughing!
Seems like its travel tales nite, Carpe. Da Hairy Ape and I went to Japan together and did the Onsen thing at Beppi in Kyushu island – the most famous hot springs area, first in a public baths, then at the Sheraton Onsen. You have to strip right off. I went to a sex segregated public one and a private shared one at the hotel with Da Ape. The public one was full of grandmas and schoolgirls and very beautiful young Japanese girls (da Ape panting away at my descriptions) – and me, looking very pink and white and blonde and all eyes upon me as the only European there (I already have good skin, Carpe. One of my assets, got it from my sainted mother). Losing the knickers so publicly is very confronting at first, but seems perfectly natural after a few minutes – everyone does it, complete nudity is the absolute rule.
No soap in any Japanese bath though. A no no. At Onsens you have to sit on a little stool and soap and shower yourself all over with a shower hose with all the other girls, all the private bits too, so that you are squeaky clean before you dare to enter the series of heat graded pools.
Cultural anthropology at its best. Da Ape was most taken by the Japanese beauties in traditional gowns who shovelled hot sand over him in the sand baths too.
Well my incident occurred 20 odd years ago. They were less trained. He thought I had tucker in my pocket and was startled when i pulled my hand out suddenly.
1. Perturbed by this
“Non-commercial production from agricultural land and businesses by foreign government entities should be undertaken within relevant Australian government foreign aid programs.”
WTF – so we have agricultural land being purchased by foreign entities and retired?? ie not used?? ie non commercial activities on said land?? ie no jobs, no action, nothing?
The way I am reading thisppoint is that we are currently “permitting” Australian agricultural land to be sold for non commercial use to foreigners. Read – turned into something useless like bush?
If we do we are very stupud bastards. More stupid than I even thought possible.
I have only one question – who is getting paid off to make such a bad decision for the Australian people is all I have to say??, Some corrupt individual part of a mcorrupt government?
We have had it as a Nation when this happens under our noses.
Im still reading your link Jumnpncar but its not making me feel well so far…
JC, Franschoek is a beautiful place, as is the whole Western Cape. I’ll be buggered I’d drive there from Jo’burg though. Fly from there to Cape Town and drive from there — much shorter. We have an office in Jo’burg and there is no way I would get myself around there without a local to ride shotgun.
But anyway, make sure you get to Stellenbosch and Paarl as well. Fantastic food, wine and scenery. I’d go back in a heart beat.
“According to the report, the committee heard evidence during its inquiry that there might be tax incentives or loopholes that benefitted foreign investors over Australian investors in the agriculture industry.”
fastest way I know to strip our actual agricultural production and jobs.
You are lucky you have wifey to drag you away from NYC and see something different. Stop your whingeing!
I’m not whining Alice. I don’t do whining.
I’m running a small business at the moment and really like it as I’m as busy as hell all day. I’m trying to get it ready for sale and buffering it up. So the trip comes at the wrong time for me.
losing one eyesight does not ipso facto translate into losing one;e brain whn it comes to economics and politics.
On that I see more clearly than you youngsters because you havent been around as long as me and havent learn to discern fact from bullshit yet – but you will – i promise you that.
Foreign investors are going to buy up a significant proportion of arable land and do nothing with it.
FFS land banking is a shaky concept as it is, and they’re going to ignore temporary water rights or agistment?
Any decent land with appreciating capital values will have the capacity to carry an increased amount of stock or crops. Which requires active management, or rest as a last option – if the land needs it and farmers would do it anyway. If there is capital appreciation then it represents an increase in potential output.
“According to the report, the committee heard evidence during its inquiry that there might be tax incentives or loopholes that benefitted foreign investors over Australian investors in the agriculture industry.”
Bullshit.
I don’t have to through the FIRB to buy a farm here.
The National Party is perhaps the most libertarian and pro free trade (this should tell you something, fuckwit) out of the major parties, Heffernan is a loose cannon and a pariah in his own Liberal party. He has actually ran against the Nationals.
And Dot Id like to know what the fuck you would know about people who live in the country and produce in the country and what their concerns are?
You know jack shit boy except what you read in god knows what liberal digest?
You get in here and aggressively pursue your aggresive views and you have no toleraace of anything different to your views (except for the fact its supposed to be am liberal national coalition). So fuck off. You cant think outside a square.
If Alice doesn’t respect the others here enough to fucking put on her glasses (or sober up…?) so that she can type an easy-to-read legible sentence, I don’t have time to try and decipher her lazy ill-thought-out stream-of-consciousness spews either.
She expects others to work three times as hard to make sense of the typo-strewn messes she throws up here yet can’t even be bothered to put on a pair of specs?
A review of tax laws to improve incentives for Australian investment in agriculture and a review of tax laws for not-for-profit activities for foreign entities were recommended.
Not for profit activities. So a foreign firm sets up an NGO and buys land. Income is not taxable as it’s a charity. And they eventually wind it up and whip the money out to their sister charity in Hong Kong or where ever. Nice idea.
losing one eyesight does not ipso facto translate into losing one;e brain whn it comes to economics and politics.
On that I see more clearly than you youngsters
You’ve claimed to have a college-aged son, lady. You’re not THAT old.
My Mom is in her 70s, wear specs for reading, and uses the internet… and she would die before she’d subject strangers to messy un-proofed spews as you do.
Have some dignity for yourself and some respect for others, FFS.
I dont have to find my specs sdog if I dont want to.
I already correct a lot of my own errors and thats all Im willing to do. Its freedom of spelling and glasses choice.
And Dot Id like to know what the fuck you would know about people who live in the country and produce in the country and what their concerns are?
More than you, shithead.
You know jack shit boy except what you read in god knows what liberal digest?
I currently don’t subscribe to any publication.
You get in here and aggressively pursue your aggresive views and you have no toleraace of anything different to your views (except for the fact its supposed to be am liberal national coalition). So fuck off. You cant think outside a square.
Present some evidence Alice. You feel threatened by me saying your idea is not a sound business practice.
Which makes me doubt you came 11th out of a graduating year of 3000 commerce students from an Australian university.
So a foreign firm sets up an NGO and buys land. Income is not taxable as it’s a charity. And they eventually wind it up and whip the money out to their sister charity in Hong Kong or where ever. Nice idea.
Time value of money suggests this is a dopey concept and the Senators who wrote about it haven’t managed so much as a cricket club budget.
I already correct a lot of my own errors and thats all Im willing to do. Its freedom of spelling and glasses choice.
Aw, Sinc, that sucks. I do find if I’ve spent an extended amount of time away from the computer that my eyes seem to be stronger and I don’t use the specs as much, but given that I slave over a hot pc during the day and tend to have one on here at night, then I may possibly be doomed.
I have thought about lasik or some variation. The jury’s out on that one – I don’t know that I want someone slicing up my eyeballs.
Alice – I was holding stuff further and further away to read it, until I couldn’t extend my arms further. Mrs D said I was getting blind, but I knew my arms were shrinking.
“Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons.”
“The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.”
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”
—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
You are swearing Dot. Its a sign you are losing it.
Of course if it is me who is swearing it is a sign of deep clarity of perception.
You cannot produce an argument other than you are a bucket mouthed, ratchet jawed buffoon without the mental capacity to realise the Nats are the most pro free trade out of the top 3/4 political parties in Australia.
Shut up and stick to creating your Walter Mitty existence away from the rest of us.
So a foreign firm sets up an NGO and buys land. Income is not taxable as it’s a charity. And they eventually wind it up and whip the money out to their sister charity in Hong Kong or where ever. Nice idea.
What a stupid long winded idea. First off the NGO has to be recognized here by the ATO. Secondly farms don’t make lots of money anyway so it would hardly be breaking the bank.
Gnomie loves me and I love gnomie. No-one is cowering. He holds his own as do I and no-one is going anywhere here.
Gnomie is funny and I love him madly still.
And Dot Id like to know what the fuck you would know about people who live in the country and produce in the country and what their concerns are?
You know jack shit boy except what you read in god knows what liberal digest?
You get in here and aggressively pursue your aggresive views and you have no toleraace of anything different to your views (except for the fact its supposed to be am liberal national coalition). So fuck off. You cant think outside a square.
Clearly I’m wrong because I’m swearing.
You fucking child. Up your clonazepam and thorazine and piss off.
I know , we have a house to the north west of Kobe up near Ai onsen. The In-laws are south west of kobe (the part that never got bombed in WWII or ruined in the 95 earthquake), which was too expensive for us.
I haven’t gone south to Kyushu but i would like to see the Hakata toumyou lantern festival.
If you get the chance see Kyoto in the Spring, in the winter stay away from the Nagano valley (Hakuba, Goryu & Happo One)and head up to Mountain National Park, it is magic and you can stay at small inns.
Don’t drive because the police will pull you over if they see plates from another prefecture.
Chuck Norris once killed two stones with one bird.
And Alice, just for me, can you please wear your glasses.
Think of it as using a face shield/helmet when you weld.
I posited the NGO idea as to the thinking of the committee.
I reckon you could get it registered if it was an aborigine employment project…with other interests in other countries which may need funding on an as needs basis…
Greenpeace is a charity here that sends due back to Head Office in Switzerland.
Listen Dot – it was you that made up my resume. I never gave you my resume and as I last recall you were busy making up what I didnt do on the resume I have which says I did do it.
So I imagine someone on a blog knows my life better than my own real CV huh? Really Dot?
Its my CV and it gets me jobs. Who are you except a blog persona who knows nothing about me or my resume bt insists on trying to prove my life wrong.
You are a silly fool who belongs in some sort of serial killer sunday forensic team on TV where someone gives you real evidence to dig up instead of letting you loose on Sundays to make up the “evidence according to Dot” in Sinc’s Blog.
Suugestion – ignore SfB. Like giving oxygen to a fire, s/he/it thrives on your abuse. STOP IT!! Just. Don’t. Respond. Reply. Comment. Reference. Anything. – s/he/it says.
FFS.
Ever seen a screaming child in the supermarket and the parent walk away, ignoring the petulant brat?
It works.
So, just ignore SfB. There is no debating, logic, facts or common sense with s/he/it. Venting and abusing just gets its rocks off.
btw Dot – this Mummy had pregnacy to deal with in lectures – couldnt shut the lecture table over my tummy. Baby came in sling to library multiple times….
You cant pick any one Dot because you made horredous assumptions along the way without any evidence (eg you assumed graduation at 23, children after graduation etc – your hypothesis on my life is littered with assumptions, not facts or evidence and some pretty cliched assumptions at that – and you call yourself a student of economics. Well I am a teacher of economics and you need to lift your powers of observation and inquiry above the level of making base assumptions.
Fallcy of composition in reverse Dot??. What applies mostly to the whole does not necessarily apply to the part or individual.
Carpe, I meant to the Melbourne one, not Japan, alas. The offspring is changing schools, so fees take precedence, along with the visits to the orthodontist and other fun things.
I’ve heard enough tales from friends who have been to the bathhouses in Japan – including outdoors ones – to have them on my wishlist. A good friend of mine is married to a Japanese woman. She is just awesome.
btw Dot – this Mummy had pregnacy to deal with in lectures – couldnt shut the lecture table over my tummy. Baby came in sling to library multiple times…
No.
Previously you said you got married and had kids after you worked full time AND did uni full time and inferred by your children’s age this was by the early 1990s.
Your “life” is a sham. You have created it because you are some backwoods hick who is trying to make out they are an economics professor to argue from authority for the most counterproductive and retarding policies we could choose from, but you like the sound of them.
Yoohoo – pete M – here I am. Over here. Waiting to be ignored.
Meanwhile, I note:
The federal and New South Wales governments have reached an agreement about how to fund the National Disability Insurance Scheme, with each agreeing to pay for the scheme, 50-50.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard told reporters in Canberra on Thursday that NSW had been the first state to reach an agreement on how to support the NDIS in the long-term.
What’s this? The Gillard minority government making progress with a potentially hostile government over an important reform? Looks like a Christmas “win” to me.
What’s this? The Gillard minority government making progress with a potentially hostile government over an important reform? Looks like a Christmas “win” to me.
You’d consider being given a pillow to bite a “win”.
What’s this? The Gillard minority government making progress with a potentially hostile government over an important reform? Looks like a Christmas “win” to me.
It’s not a “reform” dickhead. It’s another entitlement spendathon.
Dame Elizabeth’s various encomiums have included lots of footage of the Murdoch’s HQ, Cruden Farm. Anyone been there? Looks really nice.
We don’t seem to have the historical homes of the wealthy and prominent in Australia – as they do in the US. I’ve always thought the Kennedys’ Hyannisport ‘compound’ was pretty lovely too.
Here is another one of Alice’s bizzare fabrications busted: back in 2010 on Qwiggern’s blog she said she had been working in universities for almost two decades and inferred she had a full time position since 1995.
Just a few moments ago she said she graduated undergraduate commerce in 1996.
Remember too she has claimed she had kids after graduation (whilst working and studying full time and coming “11th out of 3000 commerce students”) but to fit her child being 20 + she now reckons she was pregnant at uni. Her new graduation myth sees her child actually being too young for even senior High school.
Please Alice. Just come clean and admit your whole resume is made up bupkis. Admit you made it up to argue from authority for your backwards and job destroying ideas on economics.
Oh dear God. Most joyless, politically correct Christmas festive season card EVAH!!
Noticably absent from Rosa Kleb’s festering card was poor Jeremy? Maybe he had the good sense to steer clear of getting his picture taken with other Gellibrand sheltered workshop workers.
I’ve heard enough tales from friends who have been to the bathhouses in Japan – including outdoors ones – to have them on my wishlist
I’ve only been to two, both were natural hot springs with segregated bathing. I’m not so comfortable with mixed bathing, although Lady Jugs and the 2 youngest of our brood have done that it is a bit too ‘uncomfortable’ for my tastes.
Re grand manors – the Americans have Washington’s Vernon Hill, Jefferson’s Monticello, Teddy Roosevelt’s Oyster Bay, the Kennedy Compound, the Bush’s Kennebunkport. It was kinda sad and pathetic how John Edwards tried to join the beautiful people in this respect. Didn’t quite make it, though, poor old Silky Pony.
Hey, we have Wilso and Julia’s Fitzroy bungalow. That’s historical. If you look carefully, you can still see Bill the Greek’s buttock prints on one of the cement fences.
I forgot to take my shoes off at one onsen in Tokyo. They went absolutely nuts at me yelling in Japanese (usually they’re so incredibly polite it freaked me out)… they really have a thing about that.
It was my mistake, but I’d been used to taking my cues from the racks of shoes by entrance doors – this place was fancier and had little hidden shoe lockers
It’s mixed bathing in a fucking hot spring, it is quite common.
It is people just soaking in a fucking giant hot tub bigger than your house, they have towels to keep their modesty above the water line. My point was i was not comfortable with it. My Japanese wife took our 2 youngest children to one, i just found the whole idea not to my tastes.
Hey, we have Wilso and Julia’s Fitzroy bungalow. That’s historical. If you look carefully, you can still see Bill the Greek’s buttock prints on one of the cement fences.
It’s certainly up there with Cruden farm.
Tourist bus..
” Here we have Cruden farm, home to Elizabeth Murdoch one of Australia’s great philanthropists. Next up we’re heading straight to Kerr Street Fitzroy, where we’ll see the house the Prime Minister commonly known as the Lying Slapper bid for with her married boyfriend using stolen union slush funds”.
What were you doing in Beppu and Miyazaki, they are way off the beaten track in Japan.
Even Kyushu is off the track for visitors.
I like off the track. Da Ape had business in the area and we were duchessed off our feet. Wagyu restaurants with chefs performing wonders in front of our eyes, high floor on the Sheraton, trip to the mountain spas, a whole side of Japan I had not experienced in the rural countryside, and a visit to a cave where the imagined breasts of a female Shinto deity hung from the roof and had nurtured souls for thousands of years. We threw Shinto clay fortune balls into rock basins (an age-old ritual) found in the ocean rocks of the shrine and wished our hearts out along with all the other worshippers.
I have been to Japan five times, mostly with Da Hairy Irish. Miajima island (Red Tori Gate of Japan found here) during full-on Sakura (Cherry Blossom time) was a perfect delight. Stayed in a very traditional Minshuku hostel, with charming tea ceremony welcome, and futon mattress plus bag of hard peas for my head on a little black stand and special row of shoes outside it for use inside the shared toilet. Tiny, tiny, tiny make-up table for da lady the only furniture in the tatami-matted room. Implements hanging on the walls in the bathhouse were completely beyond our ken.
Also Shinkaju Golden Temple in Kyoto was exquisite. Also the Buddhas at Sanjunsanjenko (all spelling from memory, Carpe, so may be wrong) as well as Roanji, da Hairy Ape’s favourite for contemplation.
Japanese culture is so refined, ancient and special. It slows you up and makes you think. Zen.
” Here we have Cruden farm, home to Elizabeth Murdoch one of Australia’s great philanthropists. Next up we’re heading straight to Kerr Street Fitzroy, where we’ll see the house the Prime Minister commonly known as the Lying Slapper bid for with her married boyfriend using stolen union slush funds”.
This could create a full time job for someone nailing up those heritage notice plates with the words JE Gillard slept here, and here, and here……..
Carpe, even more off the beaten track was Takamatsu on the island of Shikoku where we saw the gatherings of old people in the park out admiring the first blossom of the plum emerging; similar to Sakura (it was snowing gently at the time). Lovely.
“I really don’t know what Fatty O’Barrel is thinking. Maybe he wants the whole disability mess passed onto the Commonwealth.
Sure, they have pu-lenty of money.”
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I was around when the last Commonwealth/State Disability Agreement was negotiated in the 1990s (in NSW). The dickheads in NSW were preening, while being royally screwed by the Commonwealth. Be assured that this round is no different.
The trouble is, a corollary of the “never get between a Premier and a bucket of money” maxim is that they keep giving away bits of State autonomy in the long term for a bucket of money that will hopefully last till the next election.
Don’t drive because the police will pull you over if they see plates from another prefecture.
Not if you’re clearly visitors from another planet (Hairy Ape driving with intent) and in a hire car. We drove through every expressway tunnel from Osaka to Myazaki and on quite a few other types of roads via Shikoku to Beppu (on car ferry), with no problems at all. I took the wheel a few times too, and I am dangerously adventurous in foreign climes but was never stopped either.
What Fatty doesn’t understand is that the Commonwealth doesn’t actually deliver services. States/Territories do. So, whenever things go wrong, or expectations are not met, guess who will be blamed?
Bjelke-Petersen, who had many and various faults, nevertheless understood how this works. He actually refused to take Commonwealth money in the 1970s, because of the attached strings.
State Premiers are just whores, and the track they are on leads to where Tasmania is now. With luck, they might have some control over garbage collection in 20 years. Everything else will be trumped by some ‘agreement’ a forgotten Premier signed because someone tucked a few dollars into their garter.
You bet. Those tolls were killers. And you can’t avoid them, because otherwise you’re down off the mountain freeway spine and in amongst the thick and relentless coastal traffic roads.
Tax deductable tolls? I said to da Ape.
In your dreams, Lizzie, he replies.
Such a strong sense of probity. Lucky he earns enough for the cost not to matter much. Go out and spend, Lizzie, he tells me now, especially since taking up his new job.
If you’re about, Wreckage, a response I just put in the “make an offer” fred:
Well, de-Kulakisation is the first thing Communists do.
‘The people whose wallets will be drained in the new war on “the rich” are high-earning, but hardly plutocratic professionals like engineers, doctors, lawyers, small business owners and the like. Once seen as the bastion of the middle class, and exemplars of upward mobility, these people are emerging as the modern day “kulaks,” the affluent peasants ruthlessly targeted by Stalin in the early 1930s.’
EVERY year, as the holidays approach, global warming hype goes ballistic. This is when the UN holds its annual international climate summit, known as the Conference of the Parties to the Framework Convention on Climate Change, usually (but not always) in some warm place that requires tankers full of jet-A fuel to reach. My activist-scientist friends don’t want to go back to flying in coach, nor do the non-governmental organisations, like Greenpeace and their ilk. So this is also the season when stories of death, destruction, and the end of the world from climate change appear daily.
When is being rolled not being rolled? Mike Kelly interviewed by Chris Kenny, Sky News, Viewpoint, Wednesday:
KENNY: In this major foreign policy decision we had the Foreign Minister Bob Carr by all accounts lobbying his caucus colleagues to overrule the Prime Minister. This was an extraordinary situation. Were you comfortable with it? … To what extent has the Prime Minister’s authority within the party been diminished by this really quite unexpected turn of events?
Kelly: Well … I think if anything it’s reinforced her position …
Kenny: So by losing out on the issue she’s strengthened her authority?
Kelly : Well in terms of the fact that the caucus is behind her …
Kenny: Because it’s their decision …
Kelly: No, it was her decision, she made the decision and could have gone to a broader debate but caucus got behind the decision she made.
Yep, the super-mega-rich are fairly unobtrusive and live very much within their own largely unseen worlds (if they are not the Royals or Celebs of Hello! Magazine). They are also not for bleeding very much. Everyone knows that.
Hard-working people like da Hairy Irish Ape, who are or have been high earners paying a lot of tax already and yet making sensible investments and building up productive enterprises, will be the ones bled dry by the new Commos.
No wonder he says to spend it. Why wait for the barbarians to arrive at the gates?
When is being rolled not being rolled? Mike Kelly interviewed by Chris Kenny, Sky News, Viewpoint, Wednesday:
KENNY: In this major foreign policy decision we had the Foreign Minister Bob Carr by all accounts lobbying his caucus colleagues to overrule the Prime Minister. This was an extraordinary situation. Were you comfortable with it? … To what extent has the Prime Minister’s authority within the party been diminished by this really quite unexpected turn of events?
Kelly: Well … I think if anything it’s reinforced her position …
Kenny: So by losing out on the issue she’s strengthened her authority?
Kelly : Well in terms of the fact that the caucus is behind her …
Kenny: Because it’s their decision …
Kelly: No, it was her decision, she made the decision and could have gone to a broader debate but caucus got behind the decision she made.
I wonder if Mike Kelly ever steps back and looks at his life, and wonders how it came to this….
Gawd! It’s summer! I just checked the TV guide, and the tennis is on in Melbourne.
It was almost 0 degrees C here last night (Canberra), so I did wonder if Al Gore was visiting.
Not a lot of cicadas so far, but the first Christmas beetle did bash the kitchen window the other night.
The northern hemisphere cultural commissars can stick their Christmas traditions where the sun don’t shine. Cicadas, Test cricket, seafood and potato salad on the day – reindeer schmeindeer.
Well, here it is after 1.30am and I’ve been catching up by reading this Forum while waiting for things to print. I see there are current references to Japan and South Africa and previous night’s references to France and Europe, Mt Everest and even a passing mention of Chile and Goa. And what, by coincidence while discovering these foreign matters, has been my album of choice for tonight’s background music?
Foreigner! The Platinum Collection.
As Lacombe said in ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ – “Zis means sumsing.”
I am still trying to fathom what freedom is threatened by a regime that seeks to enforce the standards of reporting that journalists claim they adhere to already: accuracy, fair opportunity for replies; resisting personal interests or beliefs, payments or gifts; fair and honest means of obtaining material; no plagiarism; respect for grief and privacy; etc, etc
I am still trying to fathom what freedom is threatened by a regime that seeks to enforce the standards of reporting that journalists claim they adhere to already
Under Finklestein, a government bureacracy of leftist academics with powers to threaten and gaol editors would decide the “standards of reporting” – a major advance for the left in enforcing coverage of issues on the left’s terms that would signal the death of independent public interest reporting.
TWO hundred jubilant asylum seekers landed in Sydney last night to begin their new lives.
Proudly clutching their bridging visas, many of those aboard the Qantas 747 flight from Darwin were greeted by teary-eyed family and friends.
The group were among 522 Iraqi, Pakistani, Iranian, Burmese and Afghan asylum seekers released into the community, while they wait for their refugee claims to be processed.
Jabar Al Azbgy, who hails from Iraq, said his home was now in Sydney.
“Thank God for Australia,” he said.
While a handful went home with family and friends, most were taken away in buses by charity organisations, Red Cross and Settlement Services International.
They will be eligible for $440 per fortnight, rent assistance and free healthcare, with their initial accommodation and welfare needs to be met by the Red Cross until they find somewhere to stay
That’s an horrific story, Spot. No one being held responsible for the child’s death, no one taking responsibility. And all down to cost – except it would have cost a lot less had overnight home care been provided as ordered by the court. Guaranteed this story would have been widely reported in the MSM back in 2011 had the family been African American.
Surprise, surprise: productivity is in the toilet and days lost to strikes are at an eight-year high:
A SURGE in days lost to strikes in construction has lifted the level of industrial disputation in Australia to its highest level since 2004, as the Gillard government again blames the conservative states for the rise.
The latest increase – in which days lost to industrial action reached 301,800 in the year to September – has renewed attacks on Labor’s Fair Work Act. Days lost to strikes are now more than double the level of the 2009 financial year – the year before the Fair Work Act took effect.
When a transcript becomes available for this morning’s interview between Fran (I’m an activist) Kelly and Barry O’Farrell on the (unfortunately) nationally broadcast RN Breakfast program, her level of delusion will be revealed. Quoting the UN and Ban Ki Moon about the end of the world is nigh, FFS.
AM then did a follow up with Kiribas “having strong voice” because they are about to sink below the waves. Our National Broadcaster is a feathered nest of dangerous featherbrained warbling frootloops.
Middle-eastern gangs claiming they act in line with religious schisms are running protection rackets in Sydney’s south-west: cultural heritage rules, OK?
As you say Rabz – unbelievable what is happening there.
Well I am a teacher of economics and you need to lift your powers of observation and inquiry above the level of making base assumptions.
I love this sentence. It has everything: arrogance, a non-sequitur imputations of evil.
Alice you’re a gem. You make no real sense. Your utterances are an admixture of bluster and invective, with a bit of useless biographical information. Keep it up. I like a laugh.
The biggest problem with the pizza chains is that they are all involved in a race to the bottom in terms of the cost of ingredients. When Pizza Hut had the market to themselves, pizza was quite expensive, and you ate it in a restaurant sitting at a table. Home delivery was rare.
Then the other chains moved in, and started competing on price. That was their main differentiator. Pizza Hut saw them eating its lunch, so the restaurants all got dropped and pick up or home delivery became the norm.
Most Pizza Hut stores are now a hole in the wall without even a place for customers to sit as they wait for their pizza. Huge efforts have gone into cutting the price of ingredients, and cutting the cost of taking your order. Ever wondered why they want you to order over the internet? Taking an order over the phone can be quite expensive.
Every possible cost has been removed from the supply chain, and as far as I am concerned, taste went out the window when costs were slashed to compete with Eagle Boys and Dominos.
With pizza, you get what you pay for. Pay peanuts, and expect to get monkey sh*t.
Those pesky glaciers, Gab. That’s the second time they’ve caused trouble for IPCC types. Remember the egg on faces when the made-up ‘gone by 2035′ figure was shown to be a mere figment of some greenie’s imagination, and not a refereed article at all.
As you say Rabz – unbelievable what is happening there.
Yes, Lizzie and incredibly depressing at that. My dad had his general practice in Bankstown when I was growing up and I knew the area very well. Two of my best mates’ now very aged parents still live there. My sister used to teach at Benilde back in the eighties and her horror stories about the behaviour of the local arab arseholes was enlightening, to say the least.
The transformation of the area (and not in a good way) in the last few decades almost defies description.
That it’s an absolute damning indictment of the f*cking labor party goes without saying. That loathsome prick keating should be forced to live there.
Middle-eastern gangs claiming they act in line with religious schisms are running protection rackets in Sydney’s south-west: cultural heritage rules, OK?
Ain’t it grand how they bring all their factional fighting here despite claiming that they wanted to escape such things in the bog hole from whence they came. Of course, this is just the new multi-culti fabric of our diverse society. Look at England – that’s our future. Get used to it.
sdog, specialist pizza shops are opening now in the major cities (there’s a great one at Kings Cross in Sydney), where you get proper ingredients (fresh basil and tomato, fetta or cream cheese, decent salamis etc), on well-prepared crust. Not cheap, but they save nights like last night when I hadn’t started dinner before 9pm and suffered a Hungry Hairy Irish Ape for my sins.
HHIA’s are difficult to manage and best taken at the flood before such difficulties arise. They are good then.
I am sure that they will cheer up if someone sends them money. After all, that nice mr Gore is down to his last billion dollars, poor chap. Just look at the hovel he is forced to reside in, in california. And his nashville hovel is no better!
So c’mon Cat members of the gullibilitariat! Cough up. Monty, SfB etc, get cracking. The most poverty-stricken seems to be poor flannery. Why, he’s down to earning a pitiful $500,000 a year.
her horror stories about the behaviour of the local arab arseholes was enlightening, to say the least.
Yes, my sister has similar stories of life around Auburn in Sydney’s middle western ring, where she worked for a while. Being pushed off the pavement when in the way of bearded Muslim males is one of them.
Remember the 2020 Summit?
It’s website is no more.
Gone to wherever dopey political ideas end up. The Multifunction Polis will be there.
What else?
What is headed there? The Asian Century must be a prime candidate.
Just got an electricity bill: $334. This is for 2 adults and 2 primary school kids. We use an electric oven (my wife uses it a lot, actually) but a gas stove top, for which one 9lt refill costs about $27 and lasts easily 2 months. So for total energy cost, add another $40 or so.
This does not seem very expensive to me. As mentioned before, I think solar hot water helps a lot with minimising the bill. For those houses which I see that have both solar PV and solar hot water, I assume that their quarterly bill is more modest than mine.
People will forget about the initial investment cost after a little while, and just be happy with small quarterly bills.
This is why I think the carbon tax scare campaign will count for next to nothing by the time of the next election.
Alice you’re a gem. You make no real sense. Your utterances are an admixture of bluster and invective, with a bit of useless biographical information. Keep it up. I like a laugh.
She supplies the information about herself then calls it an assumption.
‘Dad’s sentence is for six years. That’s a long time to wait to go fishing again. I’m still a little angry. But I’m working on forgiving my dad because I love him,’ Sketch later says in the book while recalling their better days together.
Holy shit that book must be confronting for kids. But I assume they understand how long six years is.
THE head of the University of Sydney Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies has defended his refusal to assist an Israeli civics teacher who has designed programs for Jewish and Arab children with research work in Australia.
How long before Jews start getting rounded up again? In Australia?
Doha – as mentioned upthread was mostly about a westerner wearing the local clothing style there. In a sense, about a stranger in a foreign land. So, my choice of music last night might not have been just happenstance. Perhaps (cue spooky music) there was something subliminal that drew me to the Foreigner album
Mancini – as I recall, you mentioned more than a few days ago (it was actually on an earlier Forum back in November). I did reply to you that my only Mancini CD is the Romantic Movie Themes album, played by him and his orchestra but including only a one-track medley of his own music – the other 19 tracks being movie themes composed by others. Still easy listening though
Rabz, in Lebanon there’s a habit of intercommunal violence sometimes called night hunting. This is where a singleton or at most a very small (2-3) group of blood relatives decide to politely inform the local weirdbeards that their behaviour requires adjustment.
The adjustment is normally 7.62mm and delivered at night from 150-200m away, to the centre of the weirdbeard’s chest. The Hizb’allah use AK-47 on spray’n'pray when adjusting attitudes, the Druze and Christian’s tend to use bolt actions and one good shot. We are already seeing the islamist spray’n'pray in Sydney.
So this sort of crap is already in Sydney, sure as God made little green apples something like night hunting will follow. It’s as sure as night follows day.
So this sort of crap is already in Sydney, sure as God made little green apples something like night hunting will follow. It’s as sure as night follows day.
one 9lt refill costs about $27 and lasts easily 2 months
20lb (9kg) refill cost $14.95 at Walmart in NC last month. I think a lot of Aussies have no idea how much more they’re paying for energy than much of the rest of the world.
Oh hell! Hairy Ape just saying goodbye and has ironed his own shirt.
I have been so good at this of late, completely upskilled, and proud in the role. Purchased a big and impressive new ironing board. But time runs away with me when I’m having fun on the Cat.
I don’t mind, he says self-righteously. I am very happy ironing my own shirt.
Just like he was very happy to get his own dinner last night. Except he didn’t.
Then the piteous: it’s just like being alone waking up dis morning when you are on the blogs.
I was up early and kindly let him sleep in (he had no meetings) and then forgot about him. Mea culpa, Sweet Ape. I will have to work out how to make it up to him.
I can just hear Rabz now: you’ll find a way, Lizzie.
Yes. When I read that link I thought that while it perhaps might help some kids to read it, it could also be yet another depressive thing to deal with. I came from a disintegrating family and would have hated to read stories about other ones like mine. My favorites were happy family stories, which cheered me up and gave me hope that the world at large was a much better place than the one I knew.
La Tingle says it’s a good thing for the government that the economy is slowing. Yes, it’s all about the political advantage, not jobs. Someone send her a brain.
La Tingle is a true believer. She thinks the public will accept a wealthy suit telling them not to worry about losing their jobs etc. That will help the ALP!
She brings up the NDIS as a distraction.
The NDIS and NBN are examples of administrative and policy failure, on top of the inability to return to surplus.
The NDIS could be funded by a combination of phasing out industry protection and general supply side tax reforms. it could simply be tacked onto the Medicare levy and paid out of State revenue, or clipping the GST. The Government could then offer tenders to purchase income protection or other appropriate insurances to fund payouts, with a capital reserve for miscalculation and income smoothing.
It should be run as a trust, administered like PHIAC, with no more but probably less staff than PHIAC.
At most it ought to be absorbed into PHIAC or Treasury. It should be paid out as a trust fund and be means tested. Those who really need it could get more than they do now and it could cost society less.
It should be seen as a chance to actually lessen the role of Government, ending the constant interference and day to day dealing with Government agencies for the disabled. It could also be part of rationalising the tax system.
Don’t blame me for people finding me engaging, Gab.
But onto economics: so, The Australian chooses today to run with a story quoting 4 economists (I think, I just read it quickly) who say that governments (Federal and State) cutting budgets too hard is counterproductive to the RBA interest rate cuts.
So, does this mean The Australian will be writing editorials next year warning of the dangers of severe Abbott led spending cuts if elected?
Not so much the guilt, Gab. It’s just that we are terrible co-dependents.
Or to put it more nicely – we do nurture each other, and miss it when one of us goes a bit emotionally AWOL due to general business. He can do it too and then I lay on the poor me’s.
I must pedal back on the internet anyway so that I can write elsewhere, as you always say I should. HIA is full of encouragement for me to write up something that has interested me for a few years now. Get a househelper, he says, if that is what’s holding you up. It’s not that, though. It’s me.
Still, my problem and not to bother anyone here with it.
Mr Baker said the actuary’s report showed the Productivity Commission’s widely-used figures do not reflect the true cost of the scheme because it does not take into account wage increases, price inflation or population growth.
He also said about 8000 bureaucrats would be needed to run it.
The Australian chooses today to run with a story quoting 4 economists (I think, I just read it quickly) who say that governments (Federal and State) cutting budgets too hard is counterproductive to the RBA interest rate cuts.
…and you’ll get about 10 here who say otherwise.
Chris Richardson has never criticised Government spending.
The Rubinomics mircale under Clinton had “uncoordinated” fiscal and monetary policy.
Under Gillard, the ranks of the hidden unemployed are swelling.
By the way: Colebatch was writing earlier this year that the big, pretty much long term, problem that is being kinda ignored is the high Aussie dollar. I expect that if you’re wanting to get an increase in the manufacturing sector up and running to replace the softening in mining, this is true.
There may be a limited amount that can be “safely” done about it, but articles which talk about the likely problems with the aussie economy that don’t address it seem to me to be leaving out a very big issue.
Dot, that was an excellent piece above on the NDIS.
Also – suggestion. We don’t talk to Stevie, but talk to each other about Stevie. He can have a simple vicarious pleasure while still basically being ignored.
In all seriousness, I would be curious to hear Sinclair’s analysis of why McKibbin’s analysis is wrong (from the article in The Australian):
Lowy Institute fellow and former Reserve Bank board member Warwick McKibbin said that well-chosen infrastructure would bring returns to the economy far in excess of the borrowing costs, suggesting that the commonwealth government could currently raise funds for 30 years at rates as low as 2-3 per cent.
Professor McKibbin said monetary policy was losing much of its effectiveness because of the strength of the dollar exchange rate, which has remained above $US1 since June.
Normally, when the Reserve Bank cuts rates, the exchange rate falls, delivering an immediate boost to domestic demand, but the surge of global investment in Australian dollar assets meant this was not occurring, with the exchange rate rising following the latest rate cut on Tuesday.
This meant that government spending was the best way to support growth.
Professor McKibbin said the problem with the stimulus spending in 2008-09 was that it was excessive and did not add to the economy’s productive capacity.
He said it would be “very counter-productive” for the government to cut spending further to preserve the desired budget surplus.
This NDIS is simply a scam for the welfare industry. Jobs for the boys. Make work. A cold hearted cash grab under the guise of compassion.
Spoken like a true hyper-materialist. Read Gittins, Ross: The Happy Economist : Happiness for the hard-headed, Allen and Unwin, Crows Nest NSW, 2010 ISBN 978-1-74175-673-9
You might learn something…..
The world’s greatest snow-capped peaks, which run in a chain from the Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan, have lost no ice over the last decade, new research shows.
Sooo… Nothing melting anywhere. Just more warmie lies.
“Very few people know, for example, that the gap between black and white incomes narrowed during the Reagan administration and widened during the Obama administration. This was not because of Republican policies designed specifically for blacks, but because free market policies create an economy in which all people can improve their economic situation.”
Under Scenario 1 where 90% of fires are attributable to new installations, 1 in 909 installs lead to fire. Under Scenario 2 it’s 1 in 1636 installs lead to fire while under Scenario 3 it’s 1 in 8182 installs.
Under the Garrett insulation program, the rate is 1 in 11,828 – a much smaller rate of fires than what existed before the program.
The Goebbels principle, worked overtime by the Coalition and fellow travellers on this site, has anchored the myth.
Professor McKibbin said monetary policy was losing much of its effectiveness because of the strength of the dollar exchange rate, which has remained above $US1 since June.
Maybe he is being misreported?
If there is a strong dollar and monetary policy has no impact, then it means we don’t have control over it.
The likelihood of fiscal policy doing any better is highly unlikely. To create inflation, it would also create upward pressure on the dollar. This is why it doesn’t work in an open economy.
Normally, when the Reserve Bank cuts rates, the exchange rate falls, delivering an immediate boost to domestic demand, but the surge of global investment in Australian dollar assets meant this was not occurring, with the exchange rate rising following the latest rate cut on Tuesday.
Which means we have a lot of private investment that we don’t have to pay for.
Professor McKibbin said the problem with the stimulus spending in 2008-09 was that it was excessive and did not add to the economy’s productive capacity.
True.
He is right about borrowing but to conclude it ought to be done assume Gillard will choose the best projects.
She has abandoned doing a CBA on any public spending so there is no way to do this except at random.
Which is why it is wrong to then conclude we ought to spend more on infrastructure.
“Professor McKibbin said the problem with the stimulus spending in 2008-09 was that it was excessive and did not add to the economy’s productive capacity.”
Jarrah: I knew no one here would disagree with that part. But his prescription for the future is the thing that is now relevant, and is important for how one assesses Coalition policy.
Spoken like a true hyper-materialist. Read Gittins, Ross: The Happy Economist : Happiness for the hard-headed, Allen and Unwin, Crows Nest NSW, 2010 ISBN 978-1-74175-673-9
You might learn something…..
You interminable moron numbers the 8000 civil servants “required” for the NDIS would have a caseload of 2.28 people PER YEAR.
How on earth does reading Gittens make this a good proposition?
“You might learn something”
…and I might enjoy having glass shoved up my privates.
Under Scenario 1 where 90% of fires are attributable to new installations, 1 in 909 installs lead to fire. Under Scenario 2 it’s 1 in 1636 installs lead to fire while under Scenario 3 it’s 1 in 8182 installs.
Under the Garrett insulation program, the rate is 1 in 11,828 – a much smaller rate of fires than what existed before the program.
If you can’t differentiate between marginal and average effects, please stop pontificating on economics.
Being told to read Gittens because “I might learn something” is like telling Katie Upton to watch a special on meth addicts for beauty tips.
What about the agitators for the NDIS? Is their $22 billion somehow NOT materialistic? Is it ayurvedic money? What is the debunked lefty meme? Money doesn’t make people happy? They’d be happier in Palestine or Kenya, wouldn’t they?
Federal civil servants with a caseload of 2.28 people per year would have to be the most materialistic, slovenly bludgers known to human history.
They’d beat wharfies on stilnox hands down.
The idea that a public servant of 44 net working weeks should process less than three claims for assistance from people disabled by birth or accident is simply outrageous.
I’m struggling to see if numbers thinks I am materialistic because the programme should be run efficiently with the bulk of the money spent on the disabled, or if I’m materialistic because it ought to be means tested and the children of a BRW 200 rich lister probably shouldn’t be covered. Am I materialistic because I say cut the greedy industry welfare of the car and union lobby and fund it efficiently by clipping the GST for a small amount?
Come on numbers. Explain yourself. Do not make references to a poorly dressed crank who failed at being an auditor and no formal qualifications in economics.
“Just like Gillard’s border debacle has lowered the rate of drownings.”
In all seriousness, that could be an interesting set of numbers to look at, to see if drownings-per-boat changes much, and if that is correlated with policy changes.
Does anyone know if research has been done on this?
sdog – if da Hairy Ape comes onto this blog, I’m outta here. He does his own internetty things, mostly consisting of graphs and figures and equations, with an occasional bikini lady perhaps, but not always, combined with some new turbo-charged car he is also fantasising about. I am a man, Lizzie, he whimpers when caught out.
It’s just like with the kids: I have eyes in the back of my head, I say.
That’s pretty macarbe Jarrah but no one has explained why the 1980s had so few boats.
I want the numbers crunched. Open the borders again and change the necessary policy to attract the right migrants, and shut down the barbed wire detention centres and detainment with no charge that Paul Keating set up.
Anyone seen the Pizza Hut ad where they are putting a weiner into the crust? Whatever fool in their marketing department thought that up should be taken out and flogged.
The ATO processes over 14 million tax returns and 18 million activity statements and 1.5 million debt cases were settled finalised, in 2006/07!
I understand the nature of the work is different, but on average, on the old figures (skewed to low output), the ATO averages 1320 cases per employee per year.
The NDIS proposal of 8000 staff would see 2.28 cases per employee per year.
Looks amusing, mOnty. I wonder if the RMIT version features Sinclair doing that Flashdance song in a mankini. [I'm still allowed to make mankini jokes I assume.]
Mexico’s Supreme Court has ruled that a law in southern Oaxaca state that bans same-sex marriages is unconstitutional, paving the way for same-sex couples to marry in that state and possibly in the rest of Mexico.
In a unanimous decision on Wednesday, the tribunal struck down a Oaxaca state law that declares that “one of the purposes of marriage is the perpetuation of the species.”
The court said in its ruling that to condition marriages to the union of one man and one woman “violates the principle of equality.”
I’ve never quite understood why certain Latin countries (Spain, Mexico), which one would traditionally say have had very macho male cultures, seem to be quite early adopters on gay marriage.
A large proportion are people with disabilities.
Your figures are fantasy.
They’d be happier in Palestine or Kenya, wouldn’t they?
Has nothing whatsoever to do with Palestine or Kenya – only in your fevered imagination….
The idea that a public servant of 44 net working weeks should process less than three claims for assistance from people disabled by birth or accident is simply outrageous.
It’s also complete bullshit.
Am I materialistic because I say cut the greedy industry welfare of the car and union lobby and fund it efficiently by clipping the GST for a small amount?
Don’t try linking to someones apology as a response, you doughy 70s throwback. You know, you are the epitome of pathetic. You are, and have only every been, a drain on the society that supports you. You are a reject in every sense of the word.
that well-chosen infrastructure would bring returns to the economy far in excess of the borrowing costs, suggesting that the commonwealth government could currently raise funds for 30 years at rates as low as 2-3 per cent.
I have no problem with his statement at all. The problem is that there is no well chosen infrastructure. Well chosen infrastructure would be dams, irrigation and power assets. All of which fall under the ‘no!’ category for the gaians.
Instead we get school tuck shops and sheds, zero-return insulation, and billions spent on the economic refugee industry, which has the side effect of social tensions. Then there is the NBn, a complete failure of a project, and one doomed to never be completed.
So. Again. In principle there is no problem with borrowing for infrastructure with large and long term paybacks. If this ever got done, of course.
In the meantime, zero cost policies like brining back modern workplace laws, clamping back down on militant unions and giving resource investors certainty back would fix most, if not all, of the current economic woes.
In Mexico it was only legal in the capital originally. It’s the standard cities-are-less-conservative dynamic. One other state allows same-sex marriage now, but not without contention.
I’ve never quite understood why certain Latin countries (Spain, Mexico), which one would traditionally say have had very macho male cultures, seem to be quite early adopters on gay marriage.
The European male is really a third sex. They’re more like women but with less body hair.
You are, and have only every been, a drain on the society that supports you.
I’ve never been “supported” by anyone except myself. In fact, if you toted up the tax I’ve paid since I started work at age 15 in 1962, I’ve probably supported a score or two of your ilk down through the years.
Instead we get school tuck shops and sheds, zero-return insulation, and billions spent on the economic refugee industry,
In fairness, the point of the exercise was to get the money spent quickly for it to have the desired effect, and picking and planning big infra structure projects is (supposed to – NBN’s excepted I guess) take time.
As such, putting the money into educational facilities was probably not a bad idea – they are of immediate but ongoing community benefit and get built pretty quickly.
The insulation scheme was also not a bad idea, in terms of savings on growth in power needs, just poorly implemented.
Service number, before we start even debating the value of your ‘work’ or the programs that you have been involved in (which I have no interest in doing), even you would have to agree as a starting point that the government has paid much more money to you in public sector wages than you have paid to them in taxes.
A large proportion are people with disabilities.
Your figures are fantasy.
No they are not.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with Palestine or Kenya – only in your fevered imagination….
why would you bring up a crank like Gittens…”money doesn’t make you happy, Government departments shouldn’t aim for at least average levels of efficiency”…
It’s also complete bullshit.
No it’s 100% correct.
References to a poorly-dressed crank…
The fucker rolls up to economists dinners, in joggers and a “suit”, unkempt hair and gorges himself before you’re even registered.
Did I mention his ideas are debunked bullshit and he has no quals and was once an auditor?
The fat fucking clown.
The NDIS would see public servants process 2.3 claims per year. It will not be means tested. There is plenty of waste that can be used to fund such a noble (if properly managed) idea.
Number’s quack ideology is that all Government spending is good and it does not suffer from diminishing marginal returns.
The BER had the added unacknowledged benefit of making every school in the country wheelchair accessible. All constructions under BER had to comply with ASA access standards. In regional and rural areas in Qld (for example) where the standard bush school is of classic Qld wooden construction built on stilts, suddenly access was created for a whole generation of kids.
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Fuck off dipshit. There is no evidence the public education departments are a bastion of efficiency. In fact, to the contrary, the evidence is that a large portion of them are the standard taxeaters like service number here.
The BER had the added unacknowledged benefit of making every school in the country wheelchair accessible. All constructions under BER had to comply with ASA access standards.
I’m sure they had to pay $11000 per square metre too.
Make a habit of attending these pigs’ swills, do you?
Fuck off, I’d have to listen to nutjobs like you, Stiglitz and Gittens if I did.
JohnMc: you’re a serious nutjob if you’re going to argue that State school teachers are “leeches” on the taxpayer.
He didn’t, but there is a minority of poor teachers that can’t be fired. They give the rest a bad name.
The minority are the good public sector teachers who really care for the kids and still believe they can make a difference with the public system structured the way it is.
ShitFer, service number has crapped on about his current job as well as his history to have some understanding of what he does and where he’s coming from.
BTW, I live in service number’s town, my kids were in the public system in this state, and one of them is special needs.
What a stupid decision by the Mexican Supreme Court. To condition marriage to a union between one man and one woman doesn’t in the slightest violate the principle of equality. I’d like to see the conditions of marriage which they concluded do and don’t violate this principle.
In keeping with this theme tomorrow an alpaca will lecture on self managed super funds.
C’mon IT, keep it real.
For a dose of irony, try this one instead,
“In keeping with this theme tomorrow a Catholic will lecture on the righteousness of gay marriage and abortion.”
you would have to agree as a starting point that the government has paid much more money to you in public sector wages than you have paid to them in taxes.
So you belong to the Royal Society of Leaping Lunatics that believes that we can do without a public sector.
Good luck with that….
By the way, I have not worked my whole life in the public sector, and am earning now, at age 65, by running my own small business.
If you want to tote up transactions (giving and receiving), I reckon I could make a pretty good case that the Feds own me about $20000 being the 2012 equivalent of the difference between what I would have earned as a teacher in 69/70 and what I actually earned as a Nasho.
Some states applied “make-up pay”, but not Jo Bjelke-Petersen’s Queensland.
Ironic whan you remember that Queenslanders who were called up were ostensibly fighting Jo’s sworn enemies in SVN.
For the record I oppose conscription. But for you service number, you can consider your military service just another tax you paid to support your community.
You also apparently oppose the existence of the public sector. Perhaps you’d like to explain your strategy for a society that refuses to employ police, firies, nurses, teachers and ambos.
Should be interesting…..
Closest contemporary equivalent is probably Somalia.
The NDIS proposal of 8000 staff would see 2.28 cases per employee per year.
If the government were truly supportive in getting disabled into the workforce they would institute affirmative action policies to only employ unemployed disabled people in this department.
I’m sure there would be plenty of amputee’s that would give their right arm for the chance to get paid work.
Tourettes sufferers could be in charge of the complaints department.
The deaf would man person the call centre phones.
Blind filing clerks.
Mentally impaired would focus on application assessment,payments, and collections. Criteria for this role is very low as the only prerequisites are that you display some form of cretinism for example; Union membership, Labour party membership, or previously employed by the ABC. (you’d be a shoe in Spud)
It really is like history began in 1965 listening to embittered boomers. What’s the deal with that?
Talking about predictable. In addition to lazily trying to throw in a Nazi comparison, Numbers is working hard to beat M0nty to the most Strawman constructed in a week.
The index of Big Green companies has fallen almost 90% since 2007.
I feel sorry for punters in compulsory super funds which have pissed away their money in the name of “responsible investment”, “good corporate citizenship” and all the rest of the flummery that is used to steal people’s money.
The bleatings will become a cacophony as they all go broke, one by one – and the Feds are primed to throw billions more dollars of our money at them. That includes the Coalition.
Like me and uncle JC have said: if you are a subsidy whore, you are not a viable business and will most likely fail. The spoils go to the quickly retiring founding directors.
Just watched some of that episode on iView, and at one point Crabbe is talking about how Wong is generally cool, calm and collected and you can see her struggling not to use the word ‘inscrutable’
She probably just likes Wong and enjoyed making the episode. It looks like the sentiment was mutual considering Wong opened the door with an affectionate “Hello, Crabby”.
sfb, it was Nigel Scullion, conservative, NT. I commented in a previous OT that he is a real person (former fisherman and soldier) who I would pay to cook for me, especially if he joined me for the meal.
One of the few non-lawyers/union officials/teachers and other sheltered bores in Parliament.
They never quite got over rationing either and used to apply butter to their bread in cheese like slabs as if it was going to be outlawed tomorrow.
My father was like that. Never had heart or weight problems, but he did work physically most of his life I suppose. Used to drink straight milk coffee as well, and none of this ‘lite milk’ stuff either!!
As a Dutchie, I had ‘speckvet’ (the mixture of fat and fried bits from speck) on bread, with a bit of salt, as a child. It was yummy. Oh, and none of us were/are fat, and our hearts and arteries are in splendid shape.
Getting back to Nigel Scullion, as well as being a superb cook of entrees and main courses, he won a prize with his cake depicting Julia Gillard and a crocodile:
Hi Sep, thanks, sorry I missed your reply. Mancini’s originals are worth checking out.
Am listening to Fela Kuti/Roy Ayers “2000 Blacks”. There is some amazing African music out there. I recall a program called something like “Festival in the Desert”, showing a festival in Mali, that has been on SBS a couple of times. Just awesome, including the weirdest mixture of traditional and modern music styles and instruments imaginable.
Here’s a hint, Harry: people here talk imaginary crap about me quite a lot. Clearly, you haven’t worked that out yet.
yeah, no….
I have offered to email photos of my torso to Gab for her to confirm I am not hugely overweight, but for some reason she declines to give me her email address.
steve from brisbane
12 Jun 12 at 11:12 am
Er, actually, I think I do look better without a shirt on than the weedy fool.
I renew my offer to email self pics to Gab, or to IT direct.
steve from brisbane
19 Sep 12 at 11:59 am
There’s more, Harry, If I could be bothered to search.
Alfred Hawthorne Hill, better known by his stage name Benny Hill (21 January 1924[2] – 20 April 1992) was an English comedian and actor, notable for his long-running television programme The Benny Hill Show.
The problem isn’t with sexism per se, but the putatively homicidal animus lying behind the concept. If people can’t see that, I’d say that’s really a comment on where political discourse has gone.
Posted by: Fran Barlow of Sydney 12:27pm Thursday 28th July
A teaching moment. Don’t name your kids after totalitarian dictators and ideologues, Franny.
OIC: I thought there was some connection being drawn between email and abuse. But now I get it. It’s the old “let’s pretend X wasn’t joking” line. [Gab used it re Gillards end of the world video yesterday too.]
All very fake and tiresome, but I’m not supposed to talk about it, so move on.
It is in the oven! Five and a half hours should do it. Ape rang and won’t be home till gone 8, so sub-plan B will not be necessary; a shame really. Time for a cup of tea and a further word to Stevie, who got off lightly.
Stevie, we all know what your mental apparatus is like, thus I doubt if you could ever form an accurate mental image of anything. Do keep trying though. Even the most impaired brain can forge a few new neural connections if efforts are made.
Phillip Adams appeared on ABC TV and described The Continuing Crisis Late Night Live as “the most self-indulgent tripe” that he had ever listened to. Adams added: “It is smug, complacent, matey, boffo boy stuff and intolerable to listen to.”
Fixed it.
I occasionally have a late afternoon nap so switch the channel to LNL to make sure I get off quickly.
Thomson has been married three times, first when employed as an industrial officer at HREA, then to Christa, and then, on 21 January 2011, to Zoe Arnold, a radio newsreader and media advisor.
Note the cops: Interview the first wife, whoever she is.
SfB, you sometimes provide the odd insight, but generally you are just noise.
I understand that you see yourself as “useful” noise because you think you present a view which challeneges the entrenched view of the blog. You may even be right about that.
Fact is, though, you are the worst kind of thread-hogging troll and your brief absence was an absolute joy for those of us who read much and comment little.
Your return lessens the value of this blog substantially… and for no good purpose that I can see.
Are you having a nice lunch of dripping on bread today as well?
Pork dripping on bread is wonderful, steve – don’t knock it (though lots better if you have it on a pork sanga). Just think of it as “pork flavoured butter” and you’ll be fine.
Interesting, Jarrah. On current trends, I predict that we will have world peace in about 50 years time simply because every weapon system available then will take fifty years to develop, will cost more than any government can afford, and will not work.
Alice – I was holding stuff further and further away to read it, until I couldn’t extend my arms further. Mrs D said I was getting blind, but I knew my arms were shrinking.
Just like my suits shrink at the dry-cleaners.
ha ha still laughing LOL!!
This guy has a sense of humour but really Sinc – can you please explain to me the benefits of multi focals? I do not want my arms to shrink like yours have.
This is my first pair of prescription glasses (and I admit it – maybe I need something extra??)
Seeing as part of my job is to inspect the amounts on small Bunnings invoices (I hate Bunnings invoices). They fade and they are teensy.
The alternative to multi-focals is to get two pairs of glasses. Now that’s what my father did when he had to get bifocals – he wasn’t going to look like an old fart with the line across his glasses etc. etc. he went on and on. Anyway the two pairs of glasses lasted about two weeks – with them getting tangled up and lost and left behind etc. So he sent to get the bifocals, and luckily for him the multifocals had come out, so he didn’t get the line across the bottom.
Ok Sinc I get it. I need a better prescription.
I just need to go back there and say “MULTIFICOCALS PLEASE”.
You see when I put this pair on i can see the teensy Bunnings invoices but I cant see people’s faces or the computer so the glasses go up down up down on my head. Its bloody annoying.
COP 18 in Doha is a bottomless source of great ideas.
To take part, people should visit the website, http://www.globalchant.com, choose one of the seven causes, learn its tone and chant a seven-second “visual tweet” into their computer or smartphone then upload it to the site.
Youth, who founded and played bass in the influential post-punk band Killing Joke, said: “It is creatively inspiring to have these voices coming in from the Doha Cop 18. To give people a voice to show their commitment to a sustainable future is a positive step in the right direction.”
Sorry Gab, a liquid lunch. Steve is one sick fuck. I doubt he’s married, you can tell by his comments and harrassment of the females here. Heaven forbid if he is, a definite Fred and Rose West couple.
DaveF appeared on Catallaxy File blog and described Anne Summers Report as “the most self-indulgent tripe” that he had ever read. DaveF added: “It is smug, complacent, matey, boffo girl stuff and intolerable to read.”
Just when you think the whole world is an unflushed toilet at a curry festival, you discover that the Palace of Versailles still employs a Royal Molecatcher.
Dear Franny is still as we speak dominating Quiggers blog….maybe thats because she does the teacher totaliarian bit so politely.
Personally I cant understand why Quiggin puts up with the crap from Fran and bans lesser mortals who say what they really think (like moi) but he does.
…you discover that the Palace of Versailles still employs a Royal Molecatcher.
Good.
I had the best picnic of my life at Versailles this year. Went on a bike tour, stopped of at Versailles markets for rolls, sandwiches, cakes (lots of) and wine, then had the picnic at the top of the lake with a view of the palace.
If you like the molecather. Look at royal hounds feeding time at Cheverny. Look at these fuckers going into a frenzy and working out if a good whipping is worth it for the choice cut of meat..
I love a good concert, romantic period music and all that, but this is simply beyond the pale – or perhaps barricade in this case.
Did they have to go and spoil it by inviting Geoffrey Robertson?
The biggest problem with the pizza chains is that they are all involved in a race to the bottom in terms of the cost of ingredients.
Pizzas here aren’t a patch on the deeelicious pizzas they make in London and environs. It’s practically a different dish! (Best ever pizza? No – not in Italy but in Albi, birthplace of Toulouse Lautrec.)
Cakes and pastries ditto – God I get so fed up with dry floury muffins, stale almond danishes, the same old, same old caramel slices, banana bread, chocolate brownies on offer most places you go for a coffee in this country.
The frogs are irresistibly likeable, IT, because they’re arrogant imperialists and know exactly what they want. But 60% of their economy is the government. Like the Italians, they’re unreconstructed communists and they won’t give it up until they break their treasury.
The F-35 project has been a particularly egregious clusterfuck.
Actually, it hasn’t been especially bad bearing in mind the sheer scale of the new technologies and the problems they have had managing risk in a political control system that demands zero risk at no additional cost and zero cost increases in real terms while collapsing the numbers to be acquired.
That’s akin to legislating the Pi = 3.
What’s driving the unit price up is the reduction in numbers. What’s skewing the risk is the absolute refusal of politicians to use commercial major-project protocols. They tend to front-end load the project to sort the risk out early. That way, the probability of project failure can be finely judged inside the first 30% or so of expenditre. You can then can the project and only lose 30% of the finances. A contact of mine was promoted over such a decision to cancel, he only lost about a billion rather than four billion.
Politicians refuse to do this, and that’s why high-risk projects like Seasprite waste so much money, there are huge incentives to pour good money after bad, and none to take the very courageous decision to cancel early and lose only 25-33% while avoiding all overruns. The politicians don’t care, they can blame the military. The military cares but cannot do anything with that care, they know there’s nothing they can do to get a politician to exhibit moral courage, so all they can do is put it on paper, and hope being blamed for the mess the pollies made does not kill too many of them.
The contractors care a lot – for the way the pollies policies have structured the risk profiles in the projects, because they know they can essentially transfer the cost of the risk to the taxpayer!
And yet despite all this, what has emerged is a superlative combat aircraft at a reasonable cost given the terrible project system.
Bear in mind that exactly the same criticisms were levied at the F-15. It has a 104:0 kill ratio. Same with the F-16 (harder to work out, looks like 52:0 or 52:1), endless criticims by ‘experts’ and it is the most successful combat aircraft in history.
At the last Red Flag, F-22 ‘scored’ about 110:0 against Eurofighters, Typhoons, Sukhois, Mirages. The completely unconfirmed rumours in the knucklehead world are that the F-35′s at Red Flag did better than the F-22 (which has some CRM issues). All knuck rumours are to be taken with a ton of salt (best done by getting a one ton slab of rocksalt and dropping it on the knuck from 20′ up). Nevertheless, F-22 is seriously altering the knuck world, assymetric tactics and employment with mixed F-16 and F-15 formations is extending the extant superiority of these machines as well. F-35 does the same.
I bet the immigration will bust their system too Davef. It seems the middle east is a mess and its exporting itself everywhere? (should I say that aloud?)
I don’t thing the Italians are quite as bad. A large part of the Italian Economy is the grey market and they make a lot of sht the rest of the world wants. The frogs are happy with a government job, whereas italians are too but not as much as the frogs.
The F-35 project has been a particularly egregious clusterfuck.
Harsh but fair.
However all is not lost, gentlefolk i give you the Dassault Rafale, possibly the most beautiful aircraft since the spitfire and a great multirole weapons platform.
Probly should have linked to a picture, but look for yourselves.
Cakes and pastries ditto – God I get so fed up with dry floury muffins, stale almond danishes, the same old, same old caramel slices, banana bread, chocolate brownies on offer most places you go for a coffee in this country.
I used to go to Paris once a month in the early 90s. We go to lunch and this place had the best apple strudel and cream in the world. My mouth still waters at the thought. I could eat it every day and not get sick of it .
Infidel tiger says
“I’m really starting to dig the French. Sure they are commie bastards, but they also appreciate a lot cool shit like sex, food and smoking.”
Well you cant deny the French dont have the english hang ups re sex etc (or dont seem to) I mean they mastered the art of affairs and also food and probably smoking.
Shock horror – maybe a government job isnt a bad thing at all if you get home at 5.30, have time for an affair, as well as a good meal and some smoking afterwards?
Carpe, Rafale is pretty. Useless, but very pretty.
The problem with froggie and euroweenie machines is that they build six of them and use closed-architecture data systems. That way it’s all proprietary, and you have no choice but to go to them for all your support over the platform life. Yay. Monopoly support!
They also optimise for use of their own missile systems. Most euroweenie missiles are shyte – Russki stuff is better (off the wall in some ways as Ivan thinks differently – but better). The Poms have some rippers and there are one or two outstanding euroweenie ones (MBAE Stormshadow is a great CASCOM, its progenitor Apache was also very good, Durandal was a fabulous system in its day)
That worked so well with RAAF’s Mirage III (the reason we said ‘never again with froggie birds’).
I agree Dafe F on the export import of humanbity problem mentioned earlier.
I do know some of what gets exported here from the middle east is in this country for two seconds before trhey are involved in every welfare and indurance rort under the bloody sun.
My mum had that when she was a child. I don’t know whether she loved it, though. She also taught me how to roast a leg of lamb using dripping and the fat.
I don’t do a roast often, but I still use the fat, and one day I’m going to give in to temptation and buy some dripping.
I’m not completely sure that the F-35 is the best fit for Australia’s defence needs actually, but then again there doesn’t actually seem to be a viable alternative currently available.
The F-111 program cost blew out massively and the delays were similarly intolerable but at least in the end we were equipped with an extremely capable aircraft with a very long range, huge payload and good survivability. The F-35 can’t match it in terms of range or payload and given the Oz continent’s large land and sea area it leaves a pretty large capability gap. We can’t reach targets in Indonesia I believe without extensive in flight refuelling. F-35 is stealthy but the tankers sure aren’t.
Carpe, Rafale is pretty. Useless, but very pretty.
Harsh but fair MK50.
However i thought about including aircraft from Russia & China, i don’t know enough abpout the Russian J33 or the Chinese J15. (same same anyway)
I will add one to the mix, an aircraft that is slow, difficult to fly and difficult to land but has a killer weapons platform and will always be an iconic aircraft, the Harrier jump Jet. A very handsome aircraft.
Thomson has been married three times, first when employed as an industrial officer at HREA, then to Christa, and then, on 21 January 2011, to Zoe Arnold, a radio newsreader and media advisor.
Zoe Arnold was media advisor to former New South Wales Health Minister John Della Bosca, until he resigned after becoming embroiled in a sex scandal. Before that she was National Media Officer at Transport Workers Union of Australia, so she would have had some inkling as to the sort of man she was marrying. Consequently she deserves little sympathy, especially if reports that the couple rorted a first home buyer’s grant are true.
Youth, who founded and played bass in the influential post-punk band Killing Joke, said: “It is creatively inspiring to have these voices coming in from the Doha Cop 18.
Okay, my weekend is officially over. Killing Joke were one of my favourites.
“What’s driving the unit price up is the reduction in numbers.”
Bollocks. What’s driving up the price is the inherently flawed process of modifying the design while building the aircraft.
That’s a factor, yes, but which cost are you talking about? The ‘unit price’ is normally thought of in fly-away cost terms, and that’s more affected by the size of teh production run. Are you talking about development or through-life costs?
Bear in mind that “the inherently flawed process of modifying the design while building the aircraft” is something actually driven by poor risk management at the front end of the process, and is the mechanism by which teh contractor transfers the cost of the government’s poor risk definition and managment systems back on to the government.
Now THAT issue is structural, and it is politically driven. It is not the fault of the military or of the contractor, responsibility for it lies with those who refuse to use modern project management processes because of the political risk it involves. (cough A-12 Avenger cough). The reason Grumman never even submitted a bid for A-12? They were convinced the politically-mandated development structure led to unacceptable levels of developmental risk…..
the fighter that changed the course of the air war in Europe from ’42 on…
Yes true, it changes the war especially because the wing shape was suited to ground attack and the motor had a shit load more power and didn’t have a carby.
But nothing will ever match the clean lines, sleek styling and sheer awesomeness, nay, iconic status that is the Spitfire.
10 million schoolboys building 20 million Airfix kits can’t be wrong. (I made those numbers up)
Yes true, it changes the war especially because the wing shape was suited to ground attack and the motor had a shit load more power and didn’t have a carby.
And it was the first fighter that could escort US bombers all the way to Germany.
But nothing will ever match the clean lines, sleek styling and sheer awesomeness, nay, iconic status that is the Spitfire.
“that’s more affected by the size of teh production run.”
They’re not independent factors. The reductions in the production run were due to cost increases. It’s a vicious circle.
“It is not the fault of the military or of the contractor”
I agree. However, regardless of where the blame lays, the end result is that the JSF project is a disaster compared to previous generations and Australia should withdraw ASAP. Maybe get some Sukhoi variant so we at least match Indonesia rather than face possible embarrassment in joint exercises (because, let’s face it, actual war is a far-off prospect).
Zoe Arnold was media advisor to former New South Wales Health Minister John Della Bosca, until he resigned after becoming embroiled in a sex scandal. Before that she was National Media Officer at Transport Workers Union of Australia, so she would have had some inkling as to the sort of man she was marrying. Consequently she deserves little sympathy, especially if reports that the couple rorted a first home buyer’s grant are true.
She was also one of Thompsons “advisors” during his first election in 2007.
She rated a “special” mention in his maiden speech to parliament – before he thanked his then (long suffering it would seem) wife.
Special thanks must also go to Zoe Arnold, who has been a great support to me throughout this campaign.
” through to Christa, my partner of 15 years: thank you.”
Win
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3 Dec 12 at 8:47 pm
Surely I am not position one?
Brc
3 Dec 12 at 8:48 pm
If you’re not first, you’re last.
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3 Dec 12 at 8:48 pm
Holding fourth?
blogstrop
3 Dec 12 at 8:51 pm
101st! (binary)
Cold-Hands
3 Dec 12 at 8:54 pm
Maledicam haec artificiosa fabrica, quod interpretatur, non sum primus sed ultimus!
Mk50 of Brisbane
3 Dec 12 at 8:58 pm
Where’s JC with his traditional welcome? Haven’t seen that for ages, and it’s around the time he stopped that the trollery picked up again. Just sayin’.
sdog
3 Dec 12 at 9:03 pm
Anyone watching The Walking Dead will be pleased with this episode.
[Foxtel heavily advertise they screen it 33 hours after the US. I screen it in 3]
DaveF
3 Dec 12 at 9:18 pm
The ABC seems to be cranking up the great global warming scare machine again. Night after night their in-house green shrill, Sarah Clarke, has had one of her typical vacuous horror stories on global warming.
But why? What are they trying to soften us up for? Is there some big greenie decision coming up that the Green Party will want to be putting pressure on the government to cave in on again?
Does anyone have any intel on what is coming up?
johno
3 Dec 12 at 9:20 pm
Thanks Sinc. Nice blog.
tom
3 Dec 12 at 9:24 pm
Yes sdog, that, and ALPs polls went up…..slightly.
And what roll did Abbot play in JC not doing a traditional welcome hmmm?
jumpnmcar
3 Dec 12 at 9:25 pm
I think the last time I was genuinely surprised was when I discovered that it snows in Hawaii.
Infidel Tiger
3 Dec 12 at 9:25 pm
Good for you IT,back on the ” random observation ” horse again, and with SfB unable to whinge out loud about it too.
like it.
jumpnmcar
3 Dec 12 at 9:32 pm
Perhaps it’s because of the local heatwave? I mean, get a few hot days in a row and suddenly to the Brainwashed Faithful the planet’s thermostat is going off the scale and it’s all due to the carbon emitted by evil Australians, and by the way, it’s all AbbottAbbottAbbott’s fault that we’re all going to dieeeee horribly, and just think of the poor polar bears!!!1111!!!
Perhaps too an early election is on the cards, and what better time to ramp up a climate fear campaign (to justify the implementation of the carbon tax) than during the middle of a hot Australian summer…
A Lurker
3 Dec 12 at 9:32 pm
Ah, Online Opinion.
nilk
3 Dec 12 at 9:33 pm
You have a nasty, suspicious mind Lurker. I like that.
Mk50 of Brisbane
3 Dec 12 at 9:38 pm
Pretty sure its just the Doha Climate Wankfest.
They always breathlessly report the non science that comes out of those talks. This time its the nonsense ’4-6 degrees, we’re all dead’ report.
DaveF
3 Dec 12 at 9:39 pm
Aren’t Australians sick of this?
Tintarella di Luna
3 Dec 12 at 9:44 pm
” We have 5 years”
- Flannery T.
DaveF
3 Dec 12 at 9:49 pm
He has 5 working brain cells. And I’m being generous.
Megan
3 Dec 12 at 9:52 pm
I never used to possess one, used to be just an ordinary, garden-variety, not-thinking-much-about-politics voter; yet, over the last five years and for some ‘odd’ reason, I seem to have developed a nasty and suspicious mind, and now it’s been fine-tuned and honed into being able to quickly identify Leftist bulls**tting.
A Lurker
3 Dec 12 at 9:53 pm
Unless you are in Melbourne.
Carpe Jugulum
3 Dec 12 at 9:53 pm
Ahhh …. 16th.
I think Phil Liggett would say that’s a pretty good position in the peloton at this stage.
Well placed to pop out during the sprint.
Leigh Lowe
3 Dec 12 at 9:57 pm
I never stop questioning my own assumptions. So I am constantly looking for evidence that there is something that I have missed, there there is some piece of killer observational evidence that that provides irresistible substantiation of the AGW thesis. But there is none.
The IPCC is running this scam on “Mabo…it’s the vibe”: CO2 PPM has risen in the past 50 years, so what else could be causing temperatures to rise (if they have, in fact, risen)?
The hyothesis is based on models, which do no reflect observations, and on land temperature records (HADCRUT, etc), which have been doctored to boost the hyothesis and provide many billions in research funding.
After three years of observation of the people running this – and their data – it’s fairly obvious to me that AGW is a political doctrine developed by radicals like James Hansen who don’t like the way the world is being run. Ever wondered why AGW’s biggest fans are political radicals?
I have no doubt that the political radicals at the ABC and Fairfax genuinely believe the world is about to end. Forty years of Hollywood disaster movies and propaganda in the education system will do that. But the AGW journalism is rubbish.
Nevertheless, I will never stop questioning my own assumptions.
tom
3 Dec 12 at 10:02 pm
What is it, another year of ‘paused’ warming before the models have a ‘problem’?
The ABC are just making shill while the sun shines
Rousie
3 Dec 12 at 10:04 pm
TIME WARP 25/8 2011
I love going back to my” things I thought were crap ” files.
Yes it is. What did he do?
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/peter-beattie-is-a-man-of-steel-with-1000-a-day-job/story-e6frfkp9-1226121555219#ixzz2DzAmR3wV
jumpnmcar
3 Dec 12 at 10:08 pm
But why? What are they trying to soften us up for?
Delegates are about to go to the conference to agree on Kyoto mark 2. however, nothing substantive will be agreed, because no one important is going, and nobody sane really cares anymore.
Entropy
3 Dec 12 at 10:14 pm
Help. I am trying to find the last Open Forum before this (Nov 30?) to catch up as I have been away for nearly four days.
Has SfB been banned? And others?
By popular acclaim, or from on high?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
3 Dec 12 at 10:15 pm
Lizzie ….. let me bring you up to speed.
Well ….. whilst you were away North Korea launched it’s satellite. It went haywire and landed in Gaza.
The Crows got fined buckets and lost two years draft picks.
Ricky retired.
The astronauts on the International Space Station report that you can now see the AWU scandal from space.
Tiger Woods lost again.
And some people got banned from here which seems to have met with almost universal acclaim.
So …. nothing bad has happened in your absence.
Leigh Lowe
3 Dec 12 at 10:22 pm
Haha see the awu scandal from space.
Gold
Splatacrobat
3 Dec 12 at 10:30 pm
Septimus
Is Avantasia’s ‘The Wicked Symphony’
Is good.
Mk50 of Brisbane
3 Dec 12 at 10:36 pm
yes now you mention it, where JC? He swore he wouldn’t stop until the union clerks were out of office.
papachango
3 Dec 12 at 10:59 pm
Thanks for the scintillating update, Leigh. Nothing much going on, as you say.
Just caught the end of the forum where reference is made to The Banning. Hi Stevie, I will visit you at your blog, I am good with hospital and prison visits, bringing cheer and succor. Personally Stevie I’ve never been at all offended as somehow I have learned to defend with attack (and it has been fun, and in some ways you are a good sport). I think in the present world of confusions about gender it is not always easy for men to know what to say and when, if that is any comfort to you. My mum used to say, Lizzie, you have the gift and the curse of a quick tongue. Sorry Stevie for any hurts inflicted.
Oh – and someone referred to Ahr Lizzie. That’s OK on the Cat, but my mum was Welsh not a nasal East-Ender, and so it was actually Ower Lizzie. I always liked that, because despite everything, it did actually lay a claim to me and say that I belonged there, to them, even if they were unable to actually be there for me.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
3 Dec 12 at 11:00 pm
Ahr Lizzie
Hmmm. [looks at new climate thread. Pirates.]
AhrAaaarrggh LizzieSounds better, eh? Can get you a decent deal on a cutlass, too. But you will have to organise your own tricorn hat.
Mk50 of Brisbane
3 Dec 12 at 11:07 pm
Er, not exactly. I criticized the decision because it was based on ‘saying mean things’.
dd
3 Dec 12 at 11:10 pm
Why?
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds debut new single.
C.L.
3 Dec 12 at 11:31 pm
What if the blog owner simply doesn’t like someone?
JC
3 Dec 12 at 11:33 pm
did – you’re the ‘almost’ in almost universal acclaim’
Sinclair Davidson
3 Dec 12 at 11:34 pm
Why was Steve banned?
I didn’t catch any of that.
I don;t really g
C.L.
3 Dec 12 at 11:36 pm
Why was Steve banned?
I didn’t catch any of that.
I don’t really get why people so obsessively get caught up with people whose views they despise or who annoy them. Have a few swipes and just move on. I always found the 300 responses to Steve more annoying than Steve. Or just as, anyway.
C.L.
3 Dec 12 at 11:38 pm
Someone complained that it was getting boring so I stopped. Can’t recall who. Anyways it’s not my traditional owner greeting, it’s Andrew Leigh’s, which I thought was so sincere, so from the heart, so emotional that I just borrowed it for myself.
Here it is again. Try not to cry.
I acknowledge the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today
Brings a little tear to my eyes.
JC
3 Dec 12 at 11:42 pm
It’s the people who obsessively responded to him who are most overjoyed at his departure. Same thing will happen if/when numbers gets banned, for example. I really couldn’t give a flying fuck whether numbers comments here or not, because I don’t read his comments.
dd
3 Dec 12 at 11:43 pm
Cl
I reckon 70% of his comments were usually directed to you.
JC
3 Dec 12 at 11:46 pm
New fashion statement, coming up, MK50. I would look very fetching in a tricorn, perhaps one with an ostrich feather. I am sure I could wield a mean cutlass too.
But I do draw the line at parrot droppings on my shoulder. Plus I have total disdain for a wooden peg-leg or a hook for a hand, although come to think of it, manicures and pedicures would (or should) come at half the cost. Not a convincing enough reason to go the full pirate however.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
3 Dec 12 at 11:46 pm
well obviously it’s entirely a personal decision who gets banned and who doesn’t. However it’s never entirely arbitrary. There are of course considerations in managing an online community about decisions and policies, their effects, and what your goals are in running the site.
dd
3 Dec 12 at 11:49 pm
I cannot let this pass. I was recently ‘named’ personally by sfb as being especially odious, I think along with Mk50.
I recall that Rabz was incensed at not making it on the roll of honour. CL was nowhere to be seen..
Lazlo
3 Dec 12 at 11:55 pm
JC, Keith Windshuttle in the Oz this weekend has a piece on smoking ceremonies, welcomes to country etc., where he points out how manufactured these ‘traditional’ rituals are, to the point that they are actually insulting to those aboriginal people who still have a strong base in their culture (as in the NT).
Some priestly words sending these antics up on the Cat is thus a very good idea if you can occasionally manage it, although making people wait until you get the gumleaves to the right degree of dampness for smoking us all out is a bit of a stretch. Others will have their say if you delay.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
3 Dec 12 at 11:58 pm
“did – you’re the ‘almost’ in almost universal acclaim’”
No, he’s among several others in the ‘almost’. Count me in, for one.
A pity you haven’t even stuck to your own rules, Sinclair.
Jarrah
3 Dec 12 at 11:59 pm
“well obviously it’s entirely a personal decision who gets banned and who doesn’t.”
It shouldn’t be. Rule of law FTW.
Jarrah
4 Dec 12 at 12:00 am
Lizzie
You may have missed it but the Cat has a traditional gumleaf burning ceremony every Friday morning in deference to the traditional owners. It got so smoky in here once we almost died.
JC
4 Dec 12 at 12:02 am
Nice piece in the Weekend Oz by Windshuttle about this particular upper middle class, guilt assuaging nonsense. He points out that pig-faced Santow, Chancellor of Sydney University, regularly used to recognise the ‘Eora’ people in graduation ceremonies.
Turns out that Eora was not a tribe, but an aboriginal word for ‘people’. So Santow was reognising the ‘People People’.
What a sad but pompous joke..
Lazlo
4 Dec 12 at 12:03 am
Tell me someone.. That racist jerkoff was banned recently on the same day he appeared.
Why is no one defending him over being booted?
JC
4 Dec 12 at 12:05 am
Fucking idiot. Lol.
It’s like saying a little prayer. They’re actually praying.
JC
4 Dec 12 at 12:08 am
Call me stupid, but I don’t understand FTW.
I defend the banning because it is Sinc’s party and he can do what he wants to. This is private property. It is like ejecting an unwelcome drunk at a party.
However I have always tried to encourage people to ignore the troll/drunk. It is people’s reactions to the troll/drunk that have led him into thinking he is entertaining and thus emboldened him.
If we had all ignored him he would have shambled off home for want of attention.
Lazlo
4 Dec 12 at 12:23 am
Not just any prayer, but the unthinking sort that some people learn by rote and repeat like a chant to relieve their own anxiety (kind of like an OCD).
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 12:25 am
Doesn’t this blog’s union have an OH&S crew? What do they think about this smoking ceremony? Is there a safety procedure sheet for it, for instance? MSDS?
Was it even covered in induction? And do we have to wear our high-vis vests for it? Safety boots? Self-rescuers?
Most importantly, are pants still optional?
sdog
4 Dec 12 at 12:33 am
Looking at the piece of shite that won “Best Cartoon” this year, I wonder what Pickering’s Cartoons were like in the heady days when he won his Walkley’s? While he does have past samples of his work in his Facebook gallery, he hasn’t indicated which of them won. It’s a sobering reflection to note that many of these ancient cartoons are just as applicable today.
Cold-Hands
4 Dec 12 at 12:34 am
And now for something completely different.
Jarrah
4 Dec 12 at 12:50 am
“Call me stupid, but I don’t understand FTW.”
It’s not stupid. If you don’t converse with people under 30, you’re not going to know. It means For The Win.
Jarrah
4 Dec 12 at 12:53 am
Lazlo, FTW means “For The Win” in trendy hipster internet speech.
Incidentally Jarrah, the ability for a homeowner to decide who is and isn’t allowed on their property is enshrined in law, specifically that of trespass. Otherwise it would be impossible to get the Mormons to leave when they come knocking.
Consider this blog to be Sinc’s home. If he doesn’t want “mormons” (read: trolls), then it is his right to have them “removed for trespassing” (read: banned).
Brian of Moorabbin
4 Dec 12 at 12:57 am
Beaten by Jarrah (who I could have sworn hadn’t posted his definition when I started typing mine…)
Brian of Moorabbin
4 Dec 12 at 12:58 am
“Consider this blog to be Sinc’s home. If he doesn’t want “mormons” (read: trolls), then it is his right to have them “removed for trespassing” (read: banned).”
If only that were the case. First, Sinclair is editor-in-chief, but not owner. Second, SfB wasn’t a troll by any definition. Third, the rules have been posted, and a part of the rule of law is that the rules are pre-existing and known. Otherwise it’s just rule of man, not rule of law. Fourth, the rules don’t cover ‘being mean’ – in fact, Sinclair himself has said that “blogging isn’t for sissies” and other statements to that effect.
Jarrah
4 Dec 12 at 1:08 am
“FTW” is biker parlance for “Fuck the World” and is commonly seen on older bikies alongside the “1%” patch.
Be careful where you use the term, hipsters. Carnage likely in the wrong scenario.
Pedro the Ignorant
4 Dec 12 at 1:17 am
SfB dominates threads when he’s here; SfB dominates threads even when he’s gone. Even those who profess to hate him just cain’t quit him. FFS, just let him back in.
sdog
4 Dec 12 at 1:18 am
Whenever I see the SMH feed on Twitter I enjoy the fact that #SMH is dismissive yoof-speak for “shake my head”.
sdog
4 Dec 12 at 1:20 am
Speaking of yoof-speak, on Skype my nephew just called me a goober.
Everything old is new again.
sdog
4 Dec 12 at 1:23 am
Sounds good.
“This idea” being one she made up for the occasion.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 1:55 am
Gary Johns on how the 7.30 Report deliberately fixed the Bruce Wilson interview.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 2:02 am
“This idea” being one she made up for the occasion.
Indeed. She was probably inspired by what Jon Stewart made-up during the interview.
dover_beach
4 Dec 12 at 2:19 am
Damn, just missed out on 69.
Abu Chowdah
4 Dec 12 at 2:49 am
I’m blessed, Abu.
dover_beach
4 Dec 12 at 3:46 am
Potemkin’s Village
The Woman from La Mancha… here
Grigory Potemkin
4 Dec 12 at 6:18 am
Uhlmann’s performance on 7.30 last night, pumping up the tyres on the climate warming trishaw, places him in that category of journalists who oscillate. Not the constant good guy some say. Add him to the list with Kelly, Van Onselen, even Sheridan from time to time, as when he lauded the skills and maturity of Carr, welcoming him to the FA portfolio.
Blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 6:36 am
I think we call that “proprietary rights”.
Get over it.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 6:42 am
Gary Johns asks the same question many of us did regarding the Wilson interview, namely why a junior was put on the case. Someone here suggested it was due to the guy being on the central coast. So, you just run an outside broadcast to him, as if he was a reporter on the spot speaking to camera. But Blewitt had been interviewed remotely by Sales, and, incidentally, he was a tougher nut to crack than she had bargained for.
In the final analysis, Sales or Uhlmann may heve simply elected to use the interview to support Gillard via Wilson. There’s no guarantee either would have done as good a job as someone like Paul Sheehan would.
Sheehan’s piece this week is the sort of “holding to account” we should see more of from those who preen themselves with that sort of misapplied phrase.
Blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 6:46 am
Look, Lizzie, I think the jury is still out on the efficacy of prosthetic hooks.
Great for opening old-fashioned long-neck beers.
Twist tops? …….. not so much.
And one’s “Rock-Paper-Scissors” gameplan can become very predictable.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 6:54 am
Has Wayne Swan finally jumped the shark. According to The Oz, Swan is claiming that
Only his ABC shrills, or a Fairfax employee or someone from Labor’s tame press gallery is going to believe that massive debt and deficit is sound budget management.
johno
4 Dec 12 at 7:16 am
Judith Sloan has a good one in The Oz today on slush funds.
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 7:18 am
Gerard Henderson:
In recent times it has been fashionable for critics of Israel – on both the left and the right – to refer to the Jewish vote. In fact, the total number of Jews in Australia would not exceed 130,000. According to my contacts in the Muslim community, the total number of Muslim Lebanese in Australia is more than 400,000. In other words, the political weight of the Australians of Muslim Lebanese background far exceeds that of Jewish Australians. Then there are other Muslim minorities in addition to other Arab groupings.
How did that happen? The Australia many of us grew up in has been sold out by power “elites” and human rights activists, although there’s nothing very elite about most of them. Shades of Paul Theroux’s Mosquito Coast, where the emigrant went to South America with his family to escape the “funny bunnies” who he thought had taken over the USA.
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 7:28 am
African Women See Genitla Surgery Bias
This is getting silly.
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 7:37 am
Cold Hands, whatever you think of Pickering’s politics, as a satirical draughtsman, he isn’t very good. He attained a certain vogue in the seventies because he was able to fluke Whitlam as a sort of demented rooster, but I thought we’d seen the last of him after it turned out in the early eighties that he couldn’t draw Bob Hawke.
Check out his work today, he can’t actually capture any contempoary politician and when he tries to draw everyday people, they never quite look like contemporay Australians. His style is and always has been cramped and senile, straight out of the 1930s. His punchlines are usually sub-adult.
Des Deskperson
4 Dec 12 at 8:13 am
That is such a stupid comment.
Sinclair Davidson
4 Dec 12 at 8:20 am
Unbelievable. The reason I shop online is so that I can purchase goods that I can’t purchase in this country that are also reasonably priced (about 2/3 the cost of equivalents available here). That there is no tax (or foreign taxes) on these goods is an added bonus.
Fuck off, you whining, lazy dickhead shills for increased gubberment extortion.
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 8:37 am
Actually true – but it was just a typical Jarrah comment.
In fact you could say that after pretty much any Jarrah comment.
Or just say: ‘Jarrah is such an incessant stupid commentator’ and be done with it.
JamesK
4 Dec 12 at 8:42 am
I hear they are getting support from Chinese women who want cultural respect and re-labelling of foot-binding to arch-enhancement.
Token
4 Dec 12 at 8:44 am
If people are so completely mentally owned by sfb, they can always go to his blog and enjoy his company. As for me good riddance to the annoying troll.
Keith
4 Dec 12 at 8:51 am
Bolt has noted this on his blog, but the utterly staggering commie stupidity inherent in this silly moaning herald piece almost defies description.
That fauxfacts chose to publish it tells you all you need to know about why it is about to collapse.
BTW, it features the delusional rantings of a forty year ongoing wrongologist.
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 8:54 am
They’re right though; if you are going to tax consumption, it shouldn’t matter whether the purchase is made within country or outside. The consumption is internal, so the taxation should be applied.
Otherwise it is a sales tax, not a consumtion tax.
Again, the way to get around it would be to set up your internet sales operations offshore, and sell into the country that way. Start doing that on a significant basis and the government will change its methodologies quick smart.
DriftForge
4 Dec 12 at 9:34 am
monty did, I told him to get some perspective, given the long winded rants monty has calling us extremists when we question the utility of the NBN or Gillard’s integrity, he then told me I was robbing the racist prick of his humanity…
.
4 Dec 12 at 9:39 am
CL @ 0202
“Why wasn’t a senior experienced journalist, like Sales or Chris Uhlmann, put on the job?”
From the Gary John’s article
Funniest set of words I’ve read for a long time!!!!!!!
Mike of Marion
4 Dec 12 at 9:43 am
No wonder rabz is outrageously outraged….
“The main challenge is mental,” admits Jorgen Randers, who has been feeling for 40 years what readers of the latest gloomy climate forecasts might now be experiencing.
The Norwegian business professor is co-author of the seminal work The Limits to Growth, which sounded the alarm on the planet’s future in 1972
Limits to growth? How did that work out?
Haven’t we run out of oil?
1. Learn to love apartment living
The future will be “urban, dense and crowded” and most people will live in an urban tower in a megacity. So “don’t develop a taste for life in suburbia”. Remind yourself how high-density living relieves you of the lawns that must be mowed, the rooves and gutters that must be fixed, and the long, boring commutes to the city.
Or…you could move out of Sydney. You can buy a 4 bedroom house and 30 acres in the foothills of the Snowy Mountains for about what you pay in between Penrith and Parramatta prices.
2. Forget bushwalking
Don’t teach your children to love wide open spaces. Per capita, there is now only half the unused land there was in 1970, and by 2050 it will halve again. The amount of land that is less than 10 kilometres away from human constructions is rapidly diminishing, so people seeking wilderness will have fewer and fewer places to go, which are further and further away.
Too much of Australia is national park. Head south on the Princes Highway and get past Kiama (nice town anayway) – farms, snobby restaurants and trees, dirt and water galore.
3. Learn to prefer virtual entertainment
Go and see biodiversity hotspots and world tourist attractions now. As technology advances, experiencing a sightseeing spot digitally will have even more advantages than now over standing in the burning sun to see the real thing through the gaps in the crowd.
What is going to happen to Uluru? Going to melt?
4. Focus on satisfaction
Don’t be obsessed with income, and stop believing all growth is good. Accept that the retirement age will increase and pensions will diminish in the ageing industrial countries of the world. During the next 40 years a number of things are going to decline, in some cases representing a fundamental solution to an underlying problem. So it’s wise to teach yourself to distinguish between good and bad growth and decline.
If increasing incomes were bad, why would retirement ages increase? If populations are going to decline, then why do we need so little space?
5. Guarantee yourself a job
If you can’t stand a job in services or health and aged care, go into energy efficiency and renewables, or get your children to. And get them to learn Mandarin, so they can “get a job that will surf on the rapidly expanding wave of Chinese activity on Earth”.
Bullshit. Get as many IT, maths and industry tickets as possible on top of requisite experience. Engineering is always a good option.
.
4 Dec 12 at 9:49 am
With the Christmas season kicking off, the usual suspects are trying to repeat the success they had 10 years ago of using the heat of the summer to built momentum for the scares.
It is drip, drip, drip with their BS all summer when a lot of the pro’s who stand up to them are on hiatis and people who are skimping on air conditioning have not had enough sleep to filter the crap.
That article is some of the most amazing lefty tin-foil hat rubbish. I suspect that the ABC & FauxFacts (ability assisted by News idiots like those at the Courier Mail) will do worse.
Token
4 Dec 12 at 9:56 am
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 9:59 am
Pity the authorities across the country are too busy making excuses for these communities and not ensuring these people get the time they need to adapt.
Is there is any clearer case for stopping this policy of encouraging as many illegal and legal immigrants into the country then mashing them all in togther?
Outsourcing immigration to organise crime groups mean charties do not have the time, volunteers and resources to assist the groups dealing with a new society, new technology, psycological scars and cultural friction.
Instead the luvvy class is wasting resources trying to smash apart all controls on this process:
Token
4 Dec 12 at 10:01 am
Sheesh, dot – it’ll be submerged in those 100 metre sea level rises.
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 10:03 am
Sorry rabz, I forgot to listen to Robyn Williams.
.
4 Dec 12 at 10:20 am
From the SMH Cave Dwellers supplement, cited by dot ……
Hmmm …. so …. all growth is bad?
Well, not all growth.
Read on, dear reader.
Immediately following in para 5 it appears Chinese growth is good and may yet save us all ….
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 10:27 am
The beauty of the cyberwebs, Rabz, is that the attempted commie doomsday blackmail of the current epoch will be there at our fingertips for all to see forever as a warning to future generations about the bloody-minded bastardry of the left.
Tom
4 Dec 12 at 10:28 am
Smoking ceremony attendees kit up after Workplace Health & Safety officers issue breach notice with concerns around inhalation of carcinagentic gases.
Splatacrobat
4 Dec 12 at 10:33 am
PLAIN PACKAGING FOR ABORIGINAL CEREMONIES NOW!
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 10:35 am
I don’t recall complaining about Pat being banned. Sinc is well within his rights to do that. I haven’t complained about SfB either, as I didn’t follow the series of posts between him and Gab that are being referenced.
It does strike me as odd, though, that SfB would be banned for that sort of thing when there is a cadre of snipers on this site who add absolutely nothing to discussion and engage exclusively in gratuitous personal abuse against lefties. If I and others are left to fend for ourselves against such attacks, why isn’t Gab deemed strong enough to defend herself? It seems to me to be a double standard.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 10:40 am
As Kent Brockman famously said:
Token
4 Dec 12 at 10:41 am
Yes I w2as wondering when I would be blamed.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 10:43 am
Oh well, M0nty is in full whine mode.
Is this some of the trolling you once described as “constitutes quality comment-generating linkbait in an online environment“?
Token
4 Dec 12 at 10:44 am
Not blaming you at all, Gab. My question is to Sinclair, about his curious sense of patricianship.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 10:45 am
has gillard’s misogyny speech taught you nothing, monty? It was apparently applauded worldwide…even on jezelbel.com.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 10:46 am
Care to name names?
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 10:48 am
Really, you’re joining the Gillard victimhood sisterhood on this one?
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 10:49 am
Curious? How so? I have other curious habits too. So I let females enter rooms first or go through doors. Open doors for females or hold them open, etc.
It is my opinion that Steve’s commentary towards some female threadsters was moving beyond the sort of casual banter and routine rudeness that we all know and love so much. It was beginning to contaminate all discussions and threads where those individuals participated.
Sinclair Davidson
4 Dec 12 at 10:49 am
I wouldn’t give them the thrill, Rabz.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 10:51 am
Ah, I see you’ve changed your tune suddenly. So gillard’s “speech” was no more that “victimhood of the sisterhood”. Good. Glad you see it that way. Progress.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 10:52 am
So you don’t think the constant abuse I get, with the same insults repeated by the same posters over and over again in every thread in which I post, merits a similar response to the usual suspects?
That’s the double standard I’m talking about, Sinclair. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, etc.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 10:53 am
I never saw the ABC interview with Wilson so can’t comment. Sinc did direct me to a site concerning Blewitt which left a lot to be desired about him. I understand he has yet to seek forgiveness from his sister.
Brian4Jesus
4 Dec 12 at 10:55 am
You’re trying to have it both ways, Gab. Either Gillard is strong enough not to cry victim, and you are as well, or you’re both feigning weakness for personal advantage. Which is it? You’re both strong enough to withstand the barbs, or you’re both too weak to fight misogyny?
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 10:55 am
Sinc, any chance of organising a border exchange ? Let SFB back in and return numbers to the Labor cesspit where he belongs.
If we are to have a token useful idiot clogging up threads I would rather ignore SBF than the spudpeeler as he is the nastiest in my opinion.
Splatacrobat
4 Dec 12 at 10:56 am
Splat, you say that now…
Token
4 Dec 12 at 10:58 am
It hasn’t seemed to have bothered you so far, mUttley – you’ve got the hide of a rhino, which is probably why Sinc doesn’t give a shit.
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 10:58 am
Well apparently gillard is weak and thinks she is only attacked because of her gender. You seem to agree with her at the time. What’s changed?
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 10:58 am
So you are blaming me for SFB’s swift departure. I was right the first time.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 10:59 am
Actually it isn’t. m0nty – you are a man; despite what they say.
If it is a double-standard it doesn’t worry me. I have banned the c-bomb and yet nobody is complaining about that. Many years ago his abusive and aggressive commentary against a particular female poster got the original MichaelF banned (and not by me either). So despite Jarrah’s hysterical bedwetting commentary the rules have not changed.
Sinclair Davidson
4 Dec 12 at 11:00 am
Answer the question, Gab. Are you standing with Gillard and the Ya-Ya Sisterhood in calling out misogyny, or are you standing on your own two feet as a strong, independent woman who doesn’t need the likes of Sinclair to save you from mere words?
Either you embrace Gillard, Roxon, Plibersek, Wong and the gang, or you tell Sinclair to let SfB back on the site again because you realise that you are woman and you can roar too.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 11:02 am
After several emails from individuals supporting SfB I lifted the ban – he hasn’t returned because he is sulking.
After a robust exchange of opinions between numbers and myself on another thread his recent comments (those that I have seen anyway) appear reasonable.
Sinclair Davidson
4 Dec 12 at 11:02 am
Okay Sinc, I’m fine with that. As long as you admit it. It’s your site, people can judge you on the way you administer it and stay or go based on that.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 11:04 am
The Gen X zombie capitalist is demanding a chaperone! (Next he’ll be threatening to sue like Jazzabelle.) Sinc, could you keep an eye out in case Mont bursts into tears?
Tom
4 Dec 12 at 11:04 am
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 11:07 am
fat lot you know.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 11:07 am
I was robbing him of his humanity! Remember that monty? It is wrong for me to call white supremacists evil?
The likes of Pat actually insist on non whites being robbed of their human rights.
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:09 am
Dot, you are not Mk50. Unless there’s some vast conspiracy I’m not aware of.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 11:11 am
You put on amnesia better than Corrado Soprano or Julia Gillard.
“Get some perspective” – ring a bell?
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:13 am
So eloquent.
Tom
4 Dec 12 at 11:14 am
BREAKING NEWS
Princess Kate pregnant….developing….
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 11:26 am
Ah Splat …. I think you may speak in jest but truth is stranger the fiction.
The bride bought me a device yesterday which can be used to burn a small quantity of woodchips for smoking fish etc
It carries a prominent warning required by the Gumment of the State of California that inhaling the smoke could be a cancer risk. And this coming from the Gumment of the hooch capital of the USA.
Oh …… and the name of the device? ……. “The Smoking Gun”
I am sending one to the Altona Droner for Christmas
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 11:30 am
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 11:32 am
My eyes usually glaze over when I see leftie posts, a bit like when some of my customers ask for 90 day terms or when wifey brings home paint swatches and talks dreamily about redecorating the bathroom.
I think lefties like SBF, numbers, SteveC and Monty actually enjoy some sort of perverse self flagellation by visiting this site.Some posts I reply with ridicule because that is what they crave but most of their posts I ignore because that is what they hate the most.
The only thing the old poof Oscar got right was this;
“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”
Splatacrobat
4 Dec 12 at 11:32 am
A follow up on the NYC policeman who gave the homeless bloke a pair of boots:
He got boots but he really wanted a piece of pie.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 11:39 am
Um folks…its Tuesday.
Lysander Spooner
4 Dec 12 at 11:51 am
developing….
Lysander Spooner
4 Dec 12 at 11:52 am
Well I thought it was humourous. Baby…developing..get it?
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 11:54 am
Ahh,the fucking timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone remember Jonathon Holmes spending the first half of the final Media Watch of the year bagging out New Idea for running stories about Kate being pregnant?
If only there was another show next week where Jonathon could make a full and heartfelt apology.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
4 Dec 12 at 11:59 am
LOL.
Bolt has signed up for this insanity. Yesterday he was saying the presence of a senator with a ‘male partner who used to be a woman’ (also known as a woman) was testament to our progress as a society. Um, no.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 12:00 pm
For how long will sfb tarry?
dover_beach
4 Dec 12 at 12:03 pm
Any links, CL? Seriously, what is happening back there?
dover_beach
4 Dec 12 at 12:06 pm
As long as it takes for him to get over the sulks.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 12:06 pm
So that’s that, then.
New HSU boss vows to move on from scandal.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 12:07 pm
I do. But no apology is needed. NI has been running the same story for months and months and months. You don’t congratulate the maker of a stopped watch for the time rolling around to the same time as the hands show.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 12:08 pm
That’s what a real libertarian looks like, CL.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 12:09 pm
Dover: Column – Honour happiness where you find it.
Pratt is a lesbian whose girlfriend pretends to be a man. Which suggests to me that not even she buys it. These are the type of people we have in our parliament.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 12:13 pm
You do see the uselessness of Media Watch when Holmes has to point out that a “wymmyn’s mag” is trash? The general public (and their target demographic) know this, they also realise Holmes is an irrelevant, sheltered pillock.
.
4 Dec 12 at 12:14 pm
Real ‘libertarians’ believe women are men when they say so?
Do they believe the man in the tinfoil hat in the mall was really abducted by aliens?
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 12:15 pm
What? unbanned already! There goes the neighbourhood, once again.
More banning, not the Pacifist Solution.
No TPVs, just the boot.
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 12:20 pm
Back when gillard thought “gold plating” was a good thing:
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 12:20 pm
C.L – to paraphrahse the Hodge Twins – if you have a dick, you’re a man, you shouldn’t cut it off. All of that is just advice, you can do whatever the fark you wanna do…now for the libertarian disclaimer – if you do cut it off, don’t expect to be entitled to anything.
.
4 Dec 12 at 12:21 pm
Gab m0nty is demanding you answer him. It appears he’s well past the misogynistic “looking at his watch” phase with his demands that you acquiesce to his ranting and you just never know what a misogynistic beta male will tell you to do next when they’ve got some steam up so I’d be careful to not upset him futher!
twostix
4 Dec 12 at 12:21 pm
A couple of emails, he’s gone.
A couple of emails, he’s back (sort of).
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 12:22 pm
Twostix, if monty wants “answers” he can look back on the 1 Dec open forum. I can’t be held responsible if people do not understand Sinclair’s semi-cryptic comments.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 12:23 pm
Not having SfB around only makes you realise how tedious the undiluted monty droppings are.
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 12:24 pm
Why is it that Labor Federal politicians think that they’re some sort of emporers floating above the inferior incompetent state governments and that they can swan in and touch any state issue and fix it like magic?
Especially when they can’t even do the one thing that they’re actually tasked with doing: Securing the borders.
twostix
4 Dec 12 at 12:32 pm
Know anyone dead keen on doing Everest?
Here are some macrabre photos and facts:
Token
4 Dec 12 at 12:33 pm
Thanks, CL. Yes, I find a lesbian relationship involving one woman ‘becoming’ a man more than a little strange too.
dover_beach
4 Dec 12 at 12:35 pm
“I think lefties like SBF, numbers, SteveC and Monty actually enjoy some sort of perverse self flagellation by visiting this site.”
I won’t have it Splat!
I won’t have Numbers accused of self-flagellation!
I hear he gets one of his asylum-shopper guests at Casa del Numerical to dish it out to him.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 12:35 pm
Hey Steve from Brisbane,
Hope you can come back soon. I miss your comments.
candy
4 Dec 12 at 12:36 pm
Julia Gillard held a presser at a OneSteel plant. She announced a new Anti Dumping Commission.
Surely we have one already. This sounds like gold plating to me.
No link, it was on the radio.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 12:36 pm
Whiteboard!!
I need a whiteboard.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 12:37 pm
Real libertarians believe in the freedom of self identification. For example.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 12:40 pm
I really could not care less what they do in their relationship, unless any public funds are involved – e.g. The women demanded “equality” (i.e. gov money) to get the sex change.
Token
4 Dec 12 at 12:41 pm
So there’s a dead bodies lying on the ground in the middle of the advanced base camp?
That’s pretty fucked up.
twostix
4 Dec 12 at 12:44 pm
Oh, not only do they see those who failed, they use them to assist their climbs:
Cop this:
Token
4 Dec 12 at 12:47 pm
Shut up monty
http://www.outrightusa.org/joomla25/about-us
Why is the LP and Outright against government funding of AIDS research and service agencies?
The answer to this is very closely tied to the fact of government over-taxation and of government bureaucratic waste.
FACT: Any time middle-men are added into any transaction, prices go up. The more middle-men involved the higher prices go.
FACT: According to the government’s own GAO reports between 60% and 80% of every dollar given to ANY department or agency of the federal government goes to pay for its overhead, salaries, and all the other expenses of its existence. Only an average of about 30% of each dollar actually gets used for the purpose stated.
FACT: We are a generous community. It has been proven time and time again that we give to projects and causes we are concerned about.
Think about this:
If you want to give one dollar to AIDS research, which way is better? OR, which way benefits the research more?
1 – through taxation — only 20 or 40 cents goes to fund research after the government takes its cut.
2 – through United Way — about 60 cents goes to fund research after UW and the middleman charity takes their cuts.
3 – through a charity funding research — about 80 cents goes to the research.
4 – directly to the research institution — close to 100 percent goes to fund research.
No One Wastes More than the federal government!
.
4 Dec 12 at 12:51 pm
Everest is basically a garbage tip with discarded gear all over the place.
Pretty shameful of the climbers.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 12:55 pm
lol… might steal that line
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 12:56 pm
Here’s hoping the organisers of the Senate Christmas Party have a sense of humour and sit Senator Louise Pratt next to Corey Bernardi.
They’ll be laughin’ and jokin’ and pullin’ each others bon-bons in no time ….. or not.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 12:57 pm
LOL
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 12:57 pm
Q. What is the correct term for a straight ALP Senator?
A. A minority.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 12:58 pm
She’s also free to self-identify as a beagle too, monty.
dover_beach
4 Dec 12 at 12:59 pm
mOnty has been self-identifying as a “100% male” on the other thread.
Infidel Tiger
4 Dec 12 at 1:06 pm
Tolerance doesn’t mean acceptance, monty. I’ll support her legal right to pretend to be a man, but I’m not required to believe her delusion.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 1:07 pm
Possibly not dead.
They could be Department of Climate Change employees on a break.
Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 1:10 pm
Sorry!
I was looking for Catallaxy.
It looks like I have stumbled on to a Monty Python tribute site by mistake.
FRANCIS: Why are you always on about women, Stan?
STAN: I want to be one.
REG: What?
STAN: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me ‘Loretta’.
REG: What?!
LORETTA: It’s my right as a man.
JUDITH: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
LORETTA: I want to have babies.
REG: You want to have babies?!
LORETTA: It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them.
REG: But… you can’t have babies.
LORETTA: Don’t you oppress me.
REG: I’m not oppressing you, Stan. You haven’t got a womb! — Where’s the fetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!
LORETTA: [crying]
JUDITH: Here! I– I’ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can’t actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody’s fault, not even Tony Abbott’s
the Romans’, but that he can have the right to have babies.Leigh Lowe
4 Dec 12 at 1:16 pm
You can bet on the Godparent of the Royal baby. William and Kate can make a killing here with their insider knowledge.
90/1 on Victoria Beckham.
They also list his brother. How does that work? He’s the Uncle right, so can he be godfather as well, shouldn’t it be your best mate?
I’m not the godfather of my niece or nephew.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 1:20 pm
…can’t be….
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 1:21 pm
Except say that you’re a man or expect others to say you’re one.
You’re not.
Incidentally, how the hell does a ‘lesbian’ (Senator Pratt) explain being partnered with somebody she doctrinally insists is a man?
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 1:25 pm
What would you know about libertarianism, Monty, you far left wacko?
You support Finkelstein,ffs.
Shoosh. Be quiet.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 1:28 pm
Exactly, Laylow… I think of this scene every time the issue pops up. Like I say, people can pretend to be what they like, but there’s nothing libertarian about sharing the delusion.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 1:30 pm
Progressives believe a sheila should be able to strap on a plastic cock, surgically remove their tits, ingest a couple of tonnes of male hormones and then be able to call themselves “Barry” and use the urinal right alongside Bruce.
These same progressives think Barry should be banned from smoking.
What a wonderful age to be alive.
Infidel Tiger
4 Dec 12 at 1:34 pm
No they can’t. They cannot pretend to be returned servicemen, for example, or police officers – or medicos; or members of a subsidised ethnicity.
You simply cannot pretend to be whatever you like.
It is a sympton of cultural insanity and collapse that transgender ‘men’ and ‘women’ are not called out for being the clinically troubled people they are.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 1:36 pm
Makes me think of Mr Garrison from South Park – he’s had quite a progression throughout the series: He used to be an odd fellow with a puppet called Mr Head. Then he came out of the closet. Then he ditched his puppet and had a gay lover called Mr Slave. Then he had a sex-change operation to become a woman. Mr Slave ditched him, because he didn’t want to be with a woman. Garrison himself is disappointed with his operation when he finds he can’t get pregnant and so will never be able to have an abortion (in the same episode, Kyle has a negroplasty because he self-identifies as a black basketball player stuck in the body of a jewish kid). Later in the series, Mr Garrison self-identifies as a Christian woman, outraged by the teaching of evolution, but quickly changes his mind when Dawkins is attracted to him, declaring “If only you were an atheist“. Later in the series, he discovers he’s a lesbian (“I mean, really I don’t even understand how two women can make love, unless they just kind of scissor or something.”) Ultimately, he has a sex-change back to become a hetero male (or maybe not, I lose track).
Do click the links above, btw – very funny stuff.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 1:50 pm
George Monbiot is getting closer to Clive Hamilton in his regard for democracy. Just a little furger Geoge and you’ll get there.
corporate emancipation disguised as market freedom what does that even mean?
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 1:53 pm
Indeed.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 2:00 pm
Yep, even Mr Slave had the self respect to end the homosexual relationship, when his male partner chose to become a female.
Mr Slave who doesn’t mind the odd hamster inserted into his rectum, and can beat Paris Hilton in a slut off – by shoving her up his rectum – can teach our senator a thing or 2 about pride and decency.
harrys on the boat
4 Dec 12 at 2:01 pm
“Incidentally, how the hell does a ‘lesbian’ (Senator Pratt) explain being partnered with somebody she doctrinally insists is a man?”
perhaps Senator Pratt just truly wants to believe her partner is a man, because she feels it’s more acceptable perhaps socially or culturally to be with a man, so she’s kidding herself her partner is a man.
candy
4 Dec 12 at 2:02 pm
Why do you lie so regularly, CL? Can you not argue your point of view without recourse to blatant lies?
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 2:02 pm
Why do you eat so many doughnuts lard head?
Tiny Dancer
4 Dec 12 at 2:06 pm
Very convincing, Monty.
The Birdian No You’re Lying.
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 2:06 pm
Pretty simple way to tidy this up m0nty, do you agree with Finklestein or not?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
4 Dec 12 at 2:09 pm
I have said before Huck, and reiterate whenever this is brought up, that I do not support Finkelstein’s conclusions.
Don’t believe anything CL says, especially about other posters.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 2:15 pm
John Falkner advocates the radical policy of expelling thieves and criminals from the ALP. Gillard described:
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 2:15 pm
He used to be an odd fellow with a puppet called Mr Head.
Sacre Bleu! It’s Mr Hat, FFS!
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 2:17 pm
Ah, I see. His conclusions. But you fully support the Finkelsteinian thesis that there is a ‘problem’ that needs ‘fixing.’
Isn’t that right?
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 2:18 pm
Remember the London riots last year. Well they were quite severe in Haringay Council area.
12 months later you would think they’d be working on reducing social exclusion, enterprise zones for job creation, maybe even youth clubs.
Alternatively they could their efforts into creating the 40:20 Action Plan to reduce CO2 with platitudes and pie in the sky schemes.
Basically the only outcome will be the Council narrowing the roads.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 2:19 pm
That is good to know m0nty, but do you agree with his recommendations?
If no, how does that position sit with your local branch?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
4 Dec 12 at 2:20 pm
Poor Tiddlywinks… this was the episode where Garrison was trying to get sacked for being gay, so that he could sue. He kept upping the ante, and when the kids reported the behaviour, they got in trouble for being homophobic.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 2:20 pm
Doh!
Of course.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 2:24 pm
Fleeced, at this rate I’m going to lobby for you to be banned from attempting to reminisce about South Park episodes.
It was Lemmiwinks, FFS.
Give the poor gerbil its due – after all the horrors it was subjected to during that episode.
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 2:26 pm
Apologies Fleeced, but another correction……
The class hamster was “Lemmiwinks”.
I tried to get people to start calling hammygar, Lemmiwinks, as it was well suited, but no takers.
harrys on the boat
4 Dec 12 at 2:27 pm
There were many things wrong with the Finkelstein report. Prominent among these was the delusion that the papers fed him that everything was hunky dory in their business models, which events in the months following showed was a transparent sham that anyone who knew anything about the industry would have seen through as a joke.
The whole thing was a show trial, a circus, meaning nothing, and was never going to amount to any reform. Much like the Internet censorship issue which, as I predicted years ago, was quietly dropped recently after maximum mileage was extracted for the benefit of the pearl clutching brigade.
Mike Quigley is effectively the Minister for Communications. Conroy has presided over Quigley’s handling of the NBN, but has done precious little else. Turnbull hasn’t landed a punch on either, which can be credited not to Conroy but the bucket of crap Turnbull was handed labelled “Lib policy”. Conroy will do nothing about Finkelstein, and good riddance to a complete waste of time.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 2:29 pm
Hahaha… sorry Rabz. In my defense, those were pretty old episodes. Maybe I should re-watch the series from scratch
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 2:30 pm
The Lemmywinks song just popped into my head. Brilliant.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 2:33 pm
Sorry guys… I was having a Kim Beazley moment.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 2:35 pm
The ep id Titled The Death Camp of Tolerance Fleeced.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 2:36 pm
m0nty, forgive me, but even after your explanation, I am still confused.
Do you support the recommendations of the Finklestein report? Yes or No?
If No, have you stated this position to the branch of the ALP of which you are a member?
If Yes to the previous, how is your position viewed within your party?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
4 Dec 12 at 2:41 pm
No, I don’t support the Fink. I have never been a member of any political party, Huck.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 2:43 pm
Fleeced,
I’ll say one thing for South Park, it’s certainly a show that’s pilloried the utter absurdities of modern life with merciless precision.
One of my favourite scenes was when Stan (very unwisely) relied on Jimmy to pass on a conciliatory message to Wendy.
“Lost in translation” doesn’t quite do the subsequent debacle justice…
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 2:46 pm
John Faulkner, Martin Ferguson, Lindsay Tanner. Don’t like any of them much, but you can tell there is a complete other level to their ethics compared to the rest of the sorry bunch.
But, these guys stood back and let their party get taken over by the Emily Listers and crooks, so be it on their own head.
There really is a big chance the current lot could kill the Labor party as we know it off, if the corruption is endemic as it appears to be, and if it can be brought out into the open.
Don’t believe me? Where is the National Party of QLD now? It doesn’t exist, that’s where. It never recovered from the stench of the 1980s corruption, the type of breeding ground that threw up the Peter Slippers of the world.
One Fitzgerald enquiry later and you could have the beginning of the end for Labor.
brc
4 Dec 12 at 2:46 pm
Apologies m0nster, I thought that I had read somewhere that you were a member.
Why aren’t you? There does not seem to be much ALP policy that you don’t support, in fact, you actively promote it most of the time.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
4 Dec 12 at 2:49 pm
wayne Swan currently giving a presser about the RBA rate cut.
The first sentence I heard:
“Well 5 thousand dollars is a fair bit of money…”
Yes it is, Wayne. And you have borrowed a fair few 5 thousand dollars that I have to pay back.
I don’t usually use profanity, however…..
Dickhead.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 2:50 pm
I could say the same about you lot and the Liberal Party, Huck. You tell me.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 2:51 pm
Update on the press conference:
AbbottAbbottAbbott.
DaveF
4 Dec 12 at 2:53 pm
This is what real denialism looks like.
Fleeced
4 Dec 12 at 2:59 pm
Not according to Gillard who can’t recall such trivial amounts appearing in her bank account.
Splatacrobat
4 Dec 12 at 3:03 pm
Looks like Michael Smith was able to get someone to do a bit of a review on the days when Gillard was younger and more naive and so much more than just a typist…
Token
4 Dec 12 at 3:04 pm
I am not a member of any party m0nty. I never have been. There has never been a party that I felt stood for all of the things that I believe in.
Having said that, I am actually considering joining the Libs, not because of what they represent, but for what/who they are opposing.
The incumbent resident of the Lodge and the party that she represents are to my mind, the most disgraceful rabble of underachievers to ever have power in this country. The cultural and financial damage that they have wreaked on us will still be being counted for years to come. They are a vile mix of nasty, virulent politicians with a total lack of a moral compass.
They need to be removed for the good of the nation, and Gillard needs to go down in infamy as our most inept PM ever.
The Liberal party does not represent my beliefs fully and I do not actively shill for them as you do with the ALP.
I am pretty transparent in my views, and I really can’t cop party political hacks who just spout talking points.
I hope that answered your questions m0nty. If there are any more, I won’t be able to respond until much later as I am off to work now.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
4 Dec 12 at 3:17 pm
I’d be fascinated to hear your experiences with branch party politics, Huck.
m0nty
4 Dec 12 at 3:20 pm
This one has been coming for a while with the rise in incidences of labiaplasty and re-doing hymens. They are adults and can therefore request whatever the eff they want, because those are the standards we supposedly support.
Where it falls down is that FGM is traditionally carried out on girls from infancy onwards depending on the particular cultural practice of the tribe.
Some prefer to slice their kids around 3, some 5, some 9-11.
And while it’s illegal to cut up kids, you’ll find in every major women’s hospital there is a section set aside especially for dealing with FGM and the problems with it.
In any case, even if you don’t sew the women back up after they give birth, they can get it done at home anyway, and you can cut them open again next time they come back to give birth.
nilk
4 Dec 12 at 3:40 pm
” Lemmiwink’s journey is distant, far and fast! To find his way out of a gay man’s ass! The road ahead is filled with danger and fright! But push onward Lemmiwinks with all of your might!”
That is exactly why hammygar should be called Lemmiwinks. Whenever I see a comment by him the Lemmiwinks tune pops into my head.
And Rabz…
“I’ll say one thing for South Park, it’s certainly a show that’s pilloried the utter absurdities of modern life with merciless precision.”
Spot on
harrys on the boat
4 Dec 12 at 3:58 pm
Southpark invented the manbearpig meme, which has spread way beyond the original show, to the point where a lot of people have heard of it, but don’t know the origin.
Same goes for:
1. Use goofy guy in glasses to win election by saying he is fiscal conservative
2. Use union powerbrokers to knife him at first opportunity
3. ?????????
4. Profit!
brc
4 Dec 12 at 5:03 pm
The first part is correct not so sure about the second. Gillard was much more successful in getting stupid policies through than Rudd so in one sense she would only be the second most inept.
kelly liddle
4 Dec 12 at 5:48 pm
Token, 12.44pm
Yes. My brother was a mountaineer. His body is on Cerro Fitz Roy in Patagonia, along with others.
ella
4 Dec 12 at 6:18 pm
Yay for socialism!
Mk50 of Brisbane
4 Dec 12 at 6:18 pm
Melikes:
Amsterdam to create “scum villages”.
It’s about time we exiled scum from the city walls.
Infidel Tiger
4 Dec 12 at 6:21 pm
Anothwr book I must buy and Read
‘Escape from Camp 14′ Shin Dong Hyuk’s story, by Blaine Harden
Mk50 of Brisbane
4 Dec 12 at 6:22 pm
Well said Huckleberry (3.17). People of good will should contemplate joining both the major parties right now: working in the Libs (or Nats) to get the necessary policies in place after the next election, and working in the ALP to make the membership come to grips with the corruption of the party so it might be a worthy contender for government in a few decades.
Poor Old Rafe
4 Dec 12 at 6:38 pm
Hmm, okay. Did you require your husband to cut his?
Why?
Okay. Did you require your husband to uncover his?
Prophesying, or rebuking from scripture, actually; and the two are interchangeable in some usage. So basically the only things you’re not allowed to do are symptomatic of tourette’s syndrome.
Uh… the f*ck?
Well that’s a bit stupid. Levitical purity laws do not apply to gentiles, as Paul exhaustively explained; but if they did, they do not require you to leave your home. And don’t start on about me picking and choosing my sources; the head covering is from Paul.
wreckage
4 Dec 12 at 6:41 pm
Jo Nova on the debacle of the Victorian desalination plant.
At the H R Nicholls Society last year there was a paper on the role of the trade unions and other dubious characters in that project that would make you sick. So I am not going to provide the link.
Poor Old Rafe
4 Dec 12 at 6:52 pm
BoltA has pointed out that all the (3?) desal plants in the nation have been gigantic money wasters.
Poor Old Rafe
4 Dec 12 at 6:54 pm
Any minute now the greens (if they’re consistent) will be demanding milk imported from NZ be BANED.
Any minute now….
jumpnmcar
4 Dec 12 at 6:57 pm
Rafe, there’s three in use and another three under construction, or more accurately in the Victorian plant’s case “under water”.
The one in Kurnell only operates because those fucking labor idiots built a guaranteed use clause into the operating terms, so taxpayers get screwed despite the record amount of water in Warragamba dam.
Rabz
4 Dec 12 at 7:13 pm
Chris Uhlmann: Wayne Swan, last time interest rates were at 3% it was described as an emergency. What’s the emergency now?
Wayne Swan: Tony Abbott.
blogstrop
4 Dec 12 at 7:41 pm
Can anyone say why FXJ has started breathing unaided? I thought it was terminal.
.
4 Dec 12 at 9:32 pm
I heard that nice Penny Wong chap on the ALPBC wireless this morning saying that interest rates were lower than at any time under John Howard.
What a curious thing to say.
H B Bear
4 Dec 12 at 9:44 pm
Recently we have seen the lowest labour productivity growth (negative, actually) since 1991 as well.
Did P Wong mention that?
.
4 Dec 12 at 9:48 pm
It’s still trading at a discount to the value of its component parts… Maybe investors are positioning themselves to carve up the spoils?
Cold-Hands
4 Dec 12 at 9:50 pm
According to Joe Hockey on 2GB this evening the base rate was higher under John Howard but the rates charged for mortgages and especially for small business were lower than the rates at present. Labor people like Penny Wong don’t have a clue about life in small business land. Not their problem?
Poor Old Rafe
4 Dec 12 at 9:59 pm
Turn off your mobile in church or go to hell!
Poor Old Rafe
4 Dec 12 at 10:01 pm
The Finks MC versus Queensland.
Gotta say, go the Finks.
What a pass we’ve come to when a bikies’ lawyer channels Jefferson:
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 10:10 pm
Ain’t that the truth, CL? What have we come to when legislation gets so bad it makes ‘average’ people side with a bikie gang against the government of the day?
John Mc
4 Dec 12 at 10:14 pm
I can’;t believe these liberal governments are going after bikies with such repressive laws.
How can they defend against Finkelstien when they try to enact such fucking awful laws?
JC
4 Dec 12 at 10:15 pm
Token 12:33
I dispute George Mallory is perfectly preserved.
kae
4 Dec 12 at 10:24 pm
Stunning badminton footage.
Poor Old Rafe
4 Dec 12 at 10:29 pm
Everest – macabre and bizarre. Soon the instructions to get to the top will be surreal: ‘when you get to the fourth dead American you’ll see a pair of dead Japanese up near the three dead Frenchmen, that’s where you turn left, then pass between the dead Pom and the dead Russian….’
I know that a volunteer group removed 150 tons of rubbish and some bodies from the area a few years back. Perhaps that was from lower elevations?
it’s disturbing that no-one has been able to recover the bodies and give them proper burial.
Mk50 of Brisbane
4 Dec 12 at 10:39 pm
Take it up with guys from the very reputable blog I linked too
Token
4 Dec 12 at 10:40 pm
Wow Ella, I’m sorry. Did he know that was a possible event before he went up?
I posted the link as I didn’t know that so many had died. What is a comparable sport/profession where years after the tragedy people have to march through the hall of those who had came before and fallen?
As Mk50, macabre and bizarre.
Token
4 Dec 12 at 10:46 pm
Wow.
Oh, so that’s okay then.
nilk
4 Dec 12 at 11:00 pm
Our favourite poll analyst is here to provide more entertainment:
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/it-will-count-when-numbers-man-takes-on-climate-change-20121123-29zg5.html#ixzz2E5F9xKkn
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:05 pm
He failed badly in 2010 and got lucky on the back of Hurricane Sandy.
He was simply data mining.
Good luck with global warming, dickhead.
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:07 pm
So seeing you’ve contracted out your thinking, what is Nate’s view on the necessity of nuclear energy to deal with the impending catastrophe of AGW?
Token
4 Dec 12 at 11:07 pm
I think it’s just rather socially conservative for a libertarian.
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:09 pm
What was it?
180k votes cast a different way out of over 100 million and Nate Silver would’ve been consigned to history as a blowhard.
Yet, SteveC still has not addressed, if AGW is real and the crisis is chronic, why cultists like him do not endorse nuclear energy like George Monbiot?
Some may say they are not genuine about all this stuff…
Token
4 Dec 12 at 11:11 pm
Yep, absolutely dot. Romney had it in the bag until that dang hurricane changed everything. uh huh.
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:13 pm
That article is bullshit.
They are saying that he basically destroyed Romney by “killing his momentum”…ah pre Hurricane Sandy Romney was up…and had the momentum.
Silver did nothing to stub Romney’s momentum during the debates.
So this guy is going to come along and is going to scare global warming away?
He’s not political but he has enemies and used Palpatine style mind tricks to win the election for Obama?
What we were expecting from a sports writer anyway?
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:14 pm
Token please refer to my answer to your question on nuclear energy many months ago. My answer hasn’t changed.
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:14 pm
Entirely true, fuckhead.
Boom.
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:16 pm
Strange how the cultist seem to appeal to creditials/authority when it is somebody opposing their faith, yet will quote from the ABC science shlock jock, psych professor and sports stats expert when it suits them.
___________________________________
I’m still waiting for your confirmation you have read the Delinquent Teenager as you committed to. I thought you’d be a man of your word…
Token
4 Dec 12 at 11:18 pm
Silver simply analysed the data from all the polls and made predictions based on the aggregated data and past historical built in biases of the pollsters. It’s called meta analysis and is a well known data analysis method to smooth biases. The Romney backers on this site found the one pollster who said what they wanted to hear (Rasmussen) and determined he must be right, in spite of all the contrary polls. People have an uncanny knack of hearing what they want to hear. And then rationalising how they got it wrong (i.e. everything was on track till Sandy came along. Yeah, right)
I think Silver’s analysis of the public opinion view of AGW will be fascinating.
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:20 pm
Pretty much two choices; nuclear plus hydro, or unicorn farts and joyous outpourings of prayer – in song!
Which was yours?
wreckage
4 Dec 12 at 11:22 pm
Delinquent Teenager. Is that the La Framboise book? No I haven’t read it yet. To be honest I haven’t even finished the Deaver novel I started about 6 months ago. So my reading list is a tad long. But it is on the list
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:22 pm
lol he’s doing a gillard. “I answered that before in the press conference”.
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 11:22 pm
and yet, they weren’t.
Anyway in sfb’s absence, as a Steve twin I’m borrowing sfb’s US election bragging rights.
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:24 pm
I hope the maths in your econ phd is a bit more robust than that well reasoned response. Did Rasmussen change his prediction after Sandy?
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:25 pm
Everest is, unfortunately, a very high rubbish tip.
Bodies can’t be recovered because the risk of death to the rescuers is so high. It’s hard enough saving yourself.
kae
4 Dec 12 at 11:26 pm
Prolly.
But along with all the cognitive biases you’ve alluded to, there’s another: failing to acknowledge when you just get lucky. Romney didn’t lose by much at all; even if whasisname’s analysis had been bang on, with poor luck he could have predicted wrongly.
And it remains possible that he was right in spite of his methods. That’s another error people don’t see, because it’s counter-intuitive.
wreckage
4 Dec 12 at 11:26 pm
You can’t steal his bragging rights, that’s just unethical. Let’s call it redistribution, instead.
wreckage
4 Dec 12 at 11:28 pm
settle! borrow, not steal. They need to be put to good use in his absence. I’m sure he won’t mind. He can have them back unharmed on his return.
SteveC
4 Dec 12 at 11:29 pm
You are talking shit, you don’t know what you are talking about. You are out of your depth you shit stirring imbecile.
Obama could have lost the EV on few tight States. The average RCP polls show Romney up for about a week but Sandy got the better of him.
This is mentioned BEFORE the election actually happened.
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:31 pm
His methods suck. He was data mining. He got clobbered in 2010.
.
4 Dec 12 at 11:32 pm
Hey, Rafe.
You might be interested in this amazing baby ping pong player!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n5uFGk2pnc
C.L.
4 Dec 12 at 11:47 pm
Gab
4 Dec 12 at 11:50 pm
ha ha, that’s very funny dot. Clearly you don’t actually know what data mining is. Or possibly meta analysis either. wikipedia may help you.
Or you could check some analytical software sites for detailed discussions of data mining. e.g. sas, spss, oracle
SteveC
5 Dec 12 at 12:01 am
Fuckwit.
.
5 Dec 12 at 12:03 am
Cluebat: Silver got a lot wrong in 2010 and his 2012 stuff could be replicated with an Excel add in.
Hmm yes but I need to buy fucking SAS to do his magic tricks, right?
Let’s see what he does with the hockey stick, warming during low CO2 concentrations in natural history, urban heat islands, cointegration analysis that halves the forcing of CO2 and the new research cohenite brings up that shows the earth can basically give off heat as the greenhouse effect has an upper limit.
.
5 Dec 12 at 12:29 am
Gillard was much more successful in getting stupid policies through than Rudd so in one sense she would only be the second most inept.
Any dingbat can get legislation through when they have both Houses in their pocket like she has. By the length of a flea’s clitoris, true, but she’s got them.
perturbed
5 Dec 12 at 12:56 am
whoever faked up the UN thing bravo
DaveF
5 Dec 12 at 1:05 am
So Dot you support totalitarians so long as they are your sort of totalitarian? He would have signed the NDAA so he says in other words he is a totalitarian that couldn’t even get that far. Boo hoo for him.
kelly liddle
5 Dec 12 at 1:08 am
The Norwegian business professor is co-author of the seminal work The Limits to Growth
So if this is a “seminal work”, why is the image I’m getting that of a rancid puddle of semen on the bedsheets of a $30/night motel on some godforsaken minor highway in some godforsaken corner of the Great Southern Land?
perturbed
5 Dec 12 at 1:13 am
Perturbed either you haven’t kept up with inflation or you know something I don’t, where can you find a $30 motel?
kelly liddle
5 Dec 12 at 1:41 am
World’s greatest newspaper, the UK Daily Mail, is often cruel…
LOL: Lesser spotted siblings: Meet the not-quite-so-famous brother and sisters of the stars.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 1:51 am
What do Jack Kerouac, John Lennon and Bob Marley have in common?
All Embraced Traditional Faith & Values In Their Latter Days.
John Lennon: Republican.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 1:58 am
The Ireland abortion story has died down some, huh.
Wonder why.
Reporter Admits Savita May Not Have Wanted Abortion.
And:
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 2:02 am
SteveC has forgotten Gallup.
dover_beach
5 Dec 12 at 2:39 am
Colour me surprised that those morally scrupulous abortion activists have tendentiously presented the death of this woman and her child as items to be exploited for their political campaign. To the same end, there was a hatchet job recently in The Age’s Good Weekend focussed on Ireland’s very reasonable abortion laws. They seem to be ground zero of Emily’s Listers.
dover_beach
5 Dec 12 at 2:56 am
Love your work, CL
Grigory Potemkin
5 Dec 12 at 3:15 am
Potemkin’s Village
Tanya’s Morality… here
(Inspired by wreckage)
WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGE
Grigory Potemkin
5 Dec 12 at 3:49 am
If Nate Silver takes on climate change, it will be interesting to read the correspondence he and Steve McIntyre will invariably end up having.
Remember, Steve McIntyre’s political outlook has always been of the Left; his position on climate change comes simply from his intellectual honesty having looked at the data.
If Silver shares that integrity, McIntyre will convert him.
2dogs
5 Dec 12 at 5:23 am
SteveC, along with the whole alarmist community, lacks integrity.
Speaking of Sandy – has anyone yet defined just why the media praised Obama’s “handling of it”? Looked just as messed up on the ground as any other natural disaster. Seems to me that it was just another media boost, the opposite of what they did to Bush, for no other reason than partisanship.
Blogstrop
5 Dec 12 at 6:27 am
John Faulkner rings the bell on a party system that, for the faithful, encourages voter “cynicism” and, for people looking in from outside, is corrupt and rotten to the core:
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 6:45 am
The banking ologopoly is using residential mortgage margin increases to boost flagging profitability growth without a even a hint of price competition:
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 6:55 am
The Greens are heartened by Fatty O’Barrell’s encouragement of law-breakers on bikes:
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 7:04 am
Oh noes! Climate hysteria has run its course and kids are now more worried about the economy:
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 7:21 am
Winter is coming for Summer’s children who were born into and grew up in an economy without recession since 1992:
I wonder when the 40yo teenagers who spam this blog with the AGW cultist nonsense will release the fad is over and holding on will make them look dated?
Token
5 Dec 12 at 8:07 am
AM’s hard-voiced harpie de jour Alexandra Kirk interviewed Scott Morrison as if he was personally responsible for the conditions illegals on Nauru have to put up with.
She’s always been a piece of work, just like colleague Sabra Lane.
blogstrop
5 Dec 12 at 8:17 am
Any sensible person would’ve realised the callous exploitation of the tragic death of a woman should not have been a subject to play petty politics with.
Unfortunate the desperate pre-abortion lobby lost its moral compass years ago.
Token
5 Dec 12 at 8:21 am
Oi. My eyes are tired and I initially read that as “barking oligopoly“.
Now there’s a band name for you.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 8:30 am
There is nothing in Silver’s methodology so far to indicate he is not ethical, he has a model which worked in sports and works some of the time when the turnout model is one way and not another.
Silver is like most people working in an area in flux is charting what happened, and has no mortgage on what will happen.
I do find it amusing that his introduction into the area is seen as the silver bullet by cultists. He is likely to find that if his conclusions are too inconvenient, this tall poppy will be lopped.
Big Green has already got into attack mode with “Hockey-stick” Mann taking a shot at Silver in the Puffinton Host.
Token
5 Dec 12 at 8:30 am
Yet Fairfax continues to allocates pages to the temporary ruling class’s wailing about lack of action on climate change:
Note: the author is a luvvie media activist, not a scientist.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 8:37 am
Looks like the back bencher who showed our PM how to brazen one’s way out of trouble is finding his web of lies being slowly unpicked, document by document.
This should be a warning for Julia Milhaus Nixon, documented well by Janet Albrechtsen:
Token
5 Dec 12 at 8:40 am
The media is abuzz with talk of ALP reform – as if that’s going to happen. Keeps them happy & chatty for today though, talking about their favourite entity, all of them getting the warm and fuzzies while thinking of themselves as “in the know”, in the big tent. Way too many of them know way too much about the arcane subject of Conference, factions and voting.
blogstrop
5 Dec 12 at 8:45 am
Miranda Devine notes today how Big Green and the need for an endless series of empty scares has perverted the CSIRO and will leave it with an amazing hole when the AGW bubble pops:
Token
5 Dec 12 at 8:47 am
Blog, in between his gushing over unicorn sightings, Faulkner revealed what this “reform” talk is really about:
Yes, Labor and their dogs in the media are trying to stop the momentum for effective investigations into and reform of their money tree – the union movement.
Token
5 Dec 12 at 8:50 am
Anna Bligh Joins Medibank Board
The move follows the Gillard government’s appointment of former Queensland treasurer Andrew Fraser and former attorney-general Cameron Dick to other federal posts in recent weeks.
Mr Fraser gained a two-year position on the Australian Sports Commission board early last month, joining business and sport executives who oversee millions of dollars in grants. He was Queensland treasurer from September 2007 until Labor lost the state election earlier this year.
Mr Dick, a former state minister for industrial relations and education as well as attorney-general, was last week named the new chairman of the Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Commission for three years.
Rewarding incompetence is the hallmark of this government.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 8:50 am
Splat
Ahhhh, nepotism in the ALP family.
kae
5 Dec 12 at 8:58 am
Let me guess:
Suspension of democracy?
Property confiscation?
Arrest and detention in climate re-education camps?
Nah, they wouldn’t be so predictable.
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 9:01 am
Anna Bligh Joins Medibank Board
The move follows the Gillard government’s appointment of former Queensland treasurer Andrew Fraser and former attorney-general Cameron Dick to other federal posts in recent weeks.
More evidence of sandbagging with Labor hacks so they have friendly’s in position for when they are consigned to the wilderness after the election.
ABC tick
MSM tick
PS tick
Boards tick
Judiciary tick
Diplomatic corps tick
Extend tenure of GG tick
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 9:02 am
Let’s not forget that other grub, Mike Kaiser. Got off the late arvo Canberra/Brisbane flight a few months ago and there he was large as life. Works for NBN Co now if I remember correclty. Just getting by on a paltry $400k or so. Poor bastard.
Pickles
5 Dec 12 at 9:03 am
It will certainly need to happen after the next election.
Be interesting to see which failed, corrupt, walking corpses they reanimate to conduct yet another “root and branch” review of the stinking carcass that is the ALP.
What’s going to remain to be investigated, anyway?
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 9:07 am
Given the stellar success of the National Dinosaur Network rollout, isn’t he due for a performance bonus?
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 9:09 am
Kae I was wondering when boy wonder would resurface. It seems the lure of the public teat was all that it took.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 9:15 am
m0nty,
Zilch, nada, nil, fuck all.
The closest that I have come to branch party politics was doing the horizontal folk dance thing with a quite tidy member of the Young Liberals back in the days of Hewsons Fightback.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
5 Dec 12 at 9:25 am
Tokes 10.46pm
Tokes, my brother was a professional guide back home and knew the risks – an experienced climber.
My brother was on a joint expedition with Americans.
The group set up camp at the base of the mountain. They chose the two most experienced climbers to make the push for the top.
I’m still in touch with an American academic who was part of that expedition. He told me that from the condition of the bodies, it looked as if one of them had fallen and taken the other with him – at that point they were roped together. The team put the bodies in a small crevasse and went for help. When they got back the crevasse had opened. The body of the American was retrieved but it was considered too dangerous to go after my brother.
Patagonia was the first stop which was supposed to end in an attempt on Everest.
I still have all the newspaper clipping of my brother’s successes and your post didn’t bother me.
ella
5 Dec 12 at 9:31 am
They have already had the following luminaries perform previous post election autopsies and all came to the same conclusion; Terminal necrosis of the brand.
Bob Hawke
Steve Bracks
Bob Carr
Peter Beattie
John Faulkner
George Wright
Neville Wran
John Watkins
Anthony Chisholm
No ALP review has so far yet managed to find the solution to polishing a turd without it crumbling in their hand.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 9:41 am
You know why? All the reviewers have been men – MISOGYNEE!!!
Here are my candidates to conduct the next review following the federal election:
Joan
UnsworthKirnerAnna Blight
Kristina Keneally
All winners, all wymminses.
You know it makes sense…
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 9:52 am
You forgot Carmen Lawrence Rabz. She has such biting insight into things that can expose shortcomings of people and drive them to suicide.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 10:18 am
BREAKING: Abbott resigns.
Rudiau
5 Dec 12 at 10:26 am
Kelly Liddle, you are an idiot.
Did Massachusetts become a totalitarian State when he was Governor?
He was the least worst of the main party candidates, and the US has strict separation of powers.
Try to save up for that brain transplant.
.
5 Dec 12 at 10:30 am
The perfessor is on his hind legs this morning about Fairfax is being deserted by its readers:
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 10:47 am
…about why Fairfax is being deserted…
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 10:49 am
Please note what Dot pointed out about the separation of powers doctrine. The only way he could have signed the NDAA is if it were first passed by the House of Representatives and then by the Senate. Hint: collectively the two houses are known as the legislative branch. Yes, a President can use his executive power to veto bills which have been passed by Congress, but wouldn’t that – rejecting the will of the peoples’ representatives – be more of a “totalitarian” thing to do than accepting it?
Here is a cartoon from Schoolhouse Rock on how a bill becomes a law. Enjoy.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 10:50 am
When did this idiot become an Aboriginal “elder”?
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 10:58 am
It will be recalled that the Privileges Committee – headed by ex AWU hack, Yvette D’Ath – “cleared” Thomson of lying to Parliament not long after this speech. I said at the time that this was corruption. If there’s anyone awake in Tony Abbott’s office, they need to go after D’Ath.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 11:03 am
Breaking: high profile refugee advocate and ten year president of the Refugee Council of Australia arrested for rape and indecent assault of refugees.
Resume entry omitted by the SMH:
He is innocent until proven guilty. Mind your comments.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 11:20 am
I’m not being a smart arse but how exactly does sending someone found guilty of those accusations punish them? Prisons are a bad place and we know the depravity ala sexual abuse that goes on there.
Should the sex abuse probe be widened?
.
5 Dec 12 at 11:27 am
Speaking of brawls.. people of no description missing from this report:
SMH: Linesman beaten to death in Netherlands
oh.. here it is:
google translate of Dutch source
duncan
5 Dec 12 at 11:36 am
But was he Catholic? And has anyone asked what the role Tony Abbott played in this was?
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 12:05 pm
“He is innocent until proven guilty. Mind your comments.”
Look what happened to Lord McAlpine just for one instance.
candy
5 Dec 12 at 12:14 pm
Take away mining investment and Australia is in recession:
The temporary ruling class, for whom government and the economy are a great big slush fund that never ends, are in for a shock when reality returns and they’re returned to the ghetto.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 12:42 pm
That Chris Kenny sure makes an effort to ensure timely updates to his blog A Goodly Fabric – NOT.
Click on to see his latest entry ffs:
First step to peace – stop the rockets
Viva
5 Dec 12 at 12:54 pm
So you can go back 17 years for sex crimes but fraud 17 years ago is “old news” according to the stenographers guild?
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 1:08 pm
ABC Online: Taxi driver refuses to pick up singer Gurrumul.
First par:
Seventh par:
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 1:09 pm
I was listening to John Della Bosca on your ALPBC this morning saying that factions need to be driven out of the NSW ALP.
No-one seemed to think this was remotely bizarre.
H B Bear
5 Dec 12 at 1:24 pm
So therefore the driver can’t have been acting for racist reasons.
Why didn’t ‘Mr Grose’ just claim the driver was white and be done with it?
What a waste of an opportunity for self flagellating.
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 1:30 pm
No prizes for guessing which ‘factions’ JDB means.
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 1:32 pm
Funny. Some Doha warmist faithful agree not to breathe out (or something like that)
Lazlo
5 Dec 12 at 1:47 pm
Does this story about being a “victim” sound familiar:
It seems the willing surrender of independence by the media in the US & Australia is leading to the same end results.
Token
5 Dec 12 at 2:07 pm
That is a frigging classic Lazlo.
These people are beyond parody.
Wait, wait….did they demand the air conditioners be turned off at the Doha junket?
Ah, that’s what I thought.
DaveF
5 Dec 12 at 2:12 pm
Mr Grose is clearly a moron.
1. You don’t have to be white to be a racist… indeed some of the biggest racists I’ve met haven’t been (and I don’t just mean racist against whites, though there’s certainly that too)
2. Culturally, Indians and Pakistanis are some of the biggest racists outh there – specifically against blacks (they’d be highly offended if you thought they were black – they’re brown, apparently)
3. Taxi drivers deal with fare-evaders, get beaten up and sometimes even killed. They have to make a judgement call, and yes, they will occasionally rely on stereotypes. These “stereotypes” are based on their own experiences. Racist? Perhaps. But hardly shocking – and not even unfounded.
Fleeced
5 Dec 12 at 2:12 pm
Glad you appreciated it.
It is closely followed by the Cacun genuflection, where many delegates were persuaded to sign a petition calling for a ban on dihydrogen monoxide..
Lazlo
5 Dec 12 at 2:23 pm
My God don’t those stupid pricks in Doha realise they have the piss taken out of them?
It is electoral dynamite for anyone opposing an ETS.
.
5 Dec 12 at 2:26 pm
Evan Sayet utterly outstanding.
Via Bunyip:
http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/says-it-all.html
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 2:38 pm
Behold the
AlphaBetaOmega Male.sdog
5 Dec 12 at 2:42 pm
He’s a;so heading up a knitting circle.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 2:45 pm
Bingo
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 2:46 pm
Seriously, the sooner the Left and Right get out of the sanctimony business, the better.
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 2:47 pm
This is always code for ‘let’s make sure lefty sanctimony’ is the only one standing.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 2:50 pm
Can’t argue with that.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 2:51 pm
Yep, he’s everything that’s wrong with modern males.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 2:57 pm
As Tim Blair puts it, they put the D’oh! into Doha.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 3:04 pm
Very good use of 48 minutes (via Bunyip): how modern liberals think.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 3:22 pm
Umm yeah but no, not this time.
Roxon, Conroy, Finklestein are all cut from the same bloody insidious cloth.
People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don’t run, don’t walk. We’re in their homes and in their heads and we haven’t the right. We’re meddlesome.
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 3:29 pm
What a complete and utter waste of taxpayer resources not to mention the opportunity cost:
They weren’t intending on creating a pineapple that tastes like a coconut. No. Their original aim?
Last time I found a “sweet, low acid and aromatic” pineapple was in Fiji.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/coconut-flavoured-pineapple-created-in-qld/story-e6frfku9-1226530553583#ixzz2E9IgJhtW
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 3:37 pm
Derp, wonderful Firefly quote.
DaveF
5 Dec 12 at 3:38 pm
Next up, a new variety of mango that tastes like watermelon.
Plonkers.
Rabz
5 Dec 12 at 3:42 pm
What a boon to humanity.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 3:43 pm
A pineapple that explodes when put in a hamburger would be an advance.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 3:46 pm
So we have to have a new song “I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconut flavoured pineapples…”
Could be a bastard to get the lines to scan.
Poor Old Rafe
5 Dec 12 at 3:47 pm
On pizza too, IT.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 3:51 pm
Don’t worry this is just the first step for them to perfect tofu to taste like Waygu beef.
Tofu? Waygu? Lets get a grant and feed the world!
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 3:51 pm
Then there’ll be demonstrations against exporting live tofu. I can see it now.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 3:52 pm
Already done: It’s called a Pina colada.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 3:54 pm
Right. But getting back to the foundational topic, they’re also in our heads ordering us to believe that a woman is a man.
No. He isn’t.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 4:04 pm
You mean heartlessly manufacturing bean curd, wedging it into tight-fitting containers and shipping it against its will to countries that don’t observe halal practices.
Oh the hurty outrage!
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 4:06 pm
Seriously, the sooner the Left and Right get out of the sanctimony business, the better.
Sanctimony fighting an unsanctimonious comment.
People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think,…
I completely agree. What I’d like to know is why you concluded in this situation that people who are born, say, male, are entitled to be thought by others a woman if they chose to self-identify as a woman?
dover_beach
5 Dec 12 at 4:07 pm
He knows nothing of mousse but Tony Abbott can hit the road in a semi-trailer:
Abbott sets off for trucker’s view of highway.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 4:08 pm
Sorry, in this situation, it is a woman pretending to be a man.
dover_beach
5 Dec 12 at 4:09 pm
Speaking of trucker Abbott and Obama’s new ‘masculinity’ etc…
The classic troika that says it all.
I love that shot of Reagan – chainsawing that bitch, Nature.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 4:10 pm
In contrast, Obama probably waxes his balls because he’s an “Omega Man”.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 4:11 pm
Stiffy Macdonald back in the news:
Labor Left apologises over Macdonald.
They mean they’re sorry he was caught.
Notice how there’s suddenly an apparently orchestrated narrative of Labor penance in the news? Taking the cake for phoniness is “elder” John Fawkner playing the brave man of reform who says of a Royal Commission into union corruption…
“Yeah. No. Going Too Far. And anyway, Abbott.”
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 4:20 pm
Actually an advancement is that the Japs have created toxin free pufferfish, by farming it away from algae from which the toxin bio-accumulates.
Anything that increases the quality and quantity of sashimi supply and (presumably) lowers the cost is a great leap forward.
.
5 Dec 12 at 4:24 pm
Amazing how they always steal the relentless negative Abbott’s ideas.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 4:39 pm
Simple Japanese seafood tucker was made for bloated Western palates. It’s exquisite, unbeatable and also lean and good for you. But you always want what you haven’t got: Japan Airlines is now serving McDonalds to appeal to Japanese kids, who can’t get enough Western junk food.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 4:41 pm
There would be something really neat about having a PM with a heavy truck licence and competent to do a long drive.
candy
5 Dec 12 at 4:42 pm
C.L. that was the best 30 or so minutes I’ve spent for some time.
mct
5 Dec 12 at 4:53 pm
David Marr will have a fit if that happens,candy
Tal
5 Dec 12 at 4:53 pm
I heard a grab from Abbott on the radio news which said ,
“When Mr Costello spoke, the markets listened, when Mr Swan speaks, the markets ignore him”.
It looks like Abbott & Co are finally starting to put some force into their daily utterances. I hope that this is the beginning of a real ramp up in the way that the Coalition attacks the ALP and their failings.
They really need to be out there belting them every single day until the election.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
5 Dec 12 at 4:54 pm
It really should be mandatory for all PMs.
Drafting sheep is something else all PMs should have on the resume.
I think minimum entry criteria for the HofR should be a scar on the thigh or calf from a motorbike’s exhaust.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 4:54 pm
Bob Carr doesn’t have a driver’s licence.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 4:57 pm
If the LNP don’t run an ad of Abbott blowing the horn on his rig after encouragement from some kid in the back of a family station wagon, I won’t be voting for them.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 4:58 pm
Ruh Roh.
It seems a new Pineapple Front has ignited after last year’s Lamington Wars.
Nails colours to mast…
Pineapple on burgers: Never! And ditch the creamy mayo sauces as well while you’re at it.
Pineapple on pizza: Yep but hawaiian only and must have anchovies.
Bugger. I’m fence sitting, again.
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 5:13 pm
The next PM sitting up straight and making a mile. The radio chatter will be hilarious. I imagine there will be loads of truckies chewing Abbo’s ear on the UHF.
By the time he gets to Ballina he will be whingeing about the boss, the Volvo, mermaids, coppers and caravans.
By the time he gets to Coffs he’ll be chewing his bottom lip, scratching his head and pegging coke bottles out the window..
Pickles
5 Dec 12 at 5:14 pm
Who is this peasant and why is he/she allowed to comment?
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 5:16 pm
For real respect I want to see Tone take a triple double out to Charleville after a week on the blue shakers.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 5:18 pm
Get behind thee Satan.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 5:20 pm
No they’re not. You can believe anything you like in your own head.
However legal protections or priveleges which we all share are entirely different and worthy of discussion on their own merits.
At the end of the day, does it really matter where a fella parks his pecker?
Between consenting adults, I can’t see why it needs to be anyone else’s business.
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 5:23 pm
Open The War Room
Tal
5 Dec 12 at 5:25 pm
You’ll have to prise my hawaiian from my cold, dead hand.
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 5:28 pm
Q – How come when you get a pizza with the lot it never has pineapple?
A – Because it is disgusting to put pineapple on a pizza, granted not as bad as avacado, but still feral.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 5:32 pm
Justice will be served. Pineapple on pizza-not so much.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 5:35 pm
Pineapple on pizza is generally a mortal sin, but the insistence on anchovies reduces it to a venial one. In fact, every pizza of any type must have anchovies.
squawkbox
5 Dec 12 at 5:38 pm
and olives.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 5:39 pm
and chillies
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 5:40 pm
I had a mate who religiously ordered a vegetarian pizza with pepperoni.
They never questioned this gastronomical dichotomy.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 5:48 pm
+100
brc
5 Dec 12 at 5:51 pm
Yeah six decks of mickeys and pikers. And he has to load them in the dark on his own. And pinch fuel from Murweh Shire graders all the way.
Gupta The Nepalese Armourer
5 Dec 12 at 5:51 pm
Dover, to be fair, I made no conclusion whatsoever about that matter.
I agreed with m0nty’s comment that Bolt’s thinking was more in line with a real libertarian. Having a politician being secure enough to not hide their sexuality from society at large as some shameful secret is a sign of societal progress.
If someone wants to identify as a man, woman or third, then frankly I’ll go along with their wishes. Call it the fair go or polite dinner party rule. I’ll afford them as much respect as they offer me.
As for the legal ramifications though (changing rooms, discrimination etc)… that’s still in play I guess. Those are issues society and the law are still grappling to catch up with.
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 5:55 pm
Pussies. THIS is the pineapple to put on pizza.
Pineapple – 1 small, cut into slices
Green chillies – 20 de-seeded and chopped (pansies may reduce the number by one or two)
red chillies – 5 as above
Turmeric powder – 1/4 tsp
Salt -1 tsp
Palm Sugar – 2 tbsp
Grated coconut – 1 cup
Cumin seeds – 1/2 tsp
Mustard seeds – 1/4 tsp
Curry leaves – one handful
ghee – 2 tbsp
1)Cook pineapple slices with turmeric powder, chopped chillies, palm sugar and salt.
2)Grind together coconut and cumin seeds.
3)Once pineapple is cooked and becomes soft, add the coconut paste and cook for 5 – 10 minutes.
4)Heat oil in a pan.
5)Add mustard seeds and when they splutter, add red chillies and curry leaves.
6)For adding to pizza, paint this seasoining over the curry slices. If eating as a curry by itself*, pour this seasoning into the above curry.
* in this case serve with rice, pulao or biriyani.
Irrespective, make damned sure you have two large bottles of Kingfisher, Fiji Bitter Blue Marlin or Anchor beer. Or maybe four. If Blue Marlin, consider additional servings and six bottles….
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 5:55 pm
Yeah, six decks of Mickeys mixed up with pikers. Has to load them in the dark on his own with no dog or sparky. And has to poach fuel outa parked graders to get the whole catastrophe to Dinmore. Then he has make sure the last pen trample the dump man on the way out.
Pickles
5 Dec 12 at 5:57 pm
Vegetarian with double prawns.
And I’m also in the ham and pineapple brigade, first pizza I ever had.
jumpnmcar
5 Dec 12 at 6:01 pm
When women acknowledge the right of men to leave to toilet seat up then I will know equal rights have been achieved by women.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 6:02 pm
See,Splatty I never did get that. Who cares?
Tal
5 Dec 12 at 6:04 pm
” THIS is the pineapple to put on pizza.”
Mk50 you seen to know just about everything there is to know in the world, even how to cook pineapple.
candy
5 Dec 12 at 6:10 pm
Pineapple has no place on pizza. QED.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 6:17 pm
First they came for the pineapple.
Then they came for the sriracha…
Derp
5 Dec 12 at 6:22 pm
Good to see The Goose, Gillard and that Wong chap go through the old Punch and Judy routine about the banks passing on the latest attempt by the RBA to stop the Australian economy coming to a dead halt. As usual they are ignored.
Why don’t they go down and shout at the incoming tide instead?
H B Bear
5 Dec 12 at 6:24 pm
Candy, zero credit to me, all credit to the Keralans! Pineapple curry is one of the great dishes in the cuisine of Kerala. When living overseas, a very strange Italian fellow (known to all and sundry as ‘Mario the Pizza Fiend’, (worked for ENI) we knew married a Keralan woman (lovely lady).
They both liked to cook – which led to many bunfights, and to some very interesting new dishes!
Keralan/Tuscan fusion with a vengeance.
Once, a demented Texan … there may not be any other kind… called a chili cook-off.
In south-east Asia, this was a supremely dangerous move. I can remember him paling when complimenting one lady on the 1/4″ of ‘grease’ on top of the delicately-reddish chili she had made (with an Orissan twist). In response to his compliment, she said ‘well, I read ‘A Bowl of Red’ and wanted to get the colour right. But there’s no fat in coarsely-minced prawns, so I used a litre of home-ground Chili oil.’
Hot as the hinges on the gates of the City of Dis.
The reason it won was that through that, you could still taste the delicate flavour of the prawns and the fragrant spices. How she achieved that I simply do not know, but the orissans seem to manage that amazing feat routinely.
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 6:36 pm
A Bowl of Red
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 6:38 pm
A good pineapple is great to eat by itself. Anyone cooking it though out to be spit roasted. Disgusting thought.
JC
5 Dec 12 at 6:40 pm
No, you just don’t have pineapple on pizza. And yes to anchovies on all pizzas.
JC
5 Dec 12 at 6:42 pm
Excellent explanation of the ME conflict.
The Middle East Problem (6 mins)
Netanyahu: Conflict with Arabs is Not About Settlements
Rudiau
5 Dec 12 at 6:44 pm
Heathen.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 6:45 pm
Ham has no right to be on pizza either.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 6:55 pm
Pineapple has no place in a savoury dish. No fruit does.
I hate apricot chicken, duck a l’orange and all those fruity dishes. Sweet and sour pork is the pits. Cranberry sauce has fucked more Christmas turkeys than a pack of foxes. The only one that even gets close to edible is lemon chicken.
Beetroot in a hamburger is bonzer.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 6:57 pm
You are all heathens! Everyone of you, off to read Vijayan Kannampilly!
Essential Kerala Cookbook
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 6:58 pm
Yes – except for pepperoni & olives with double cheese.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 6:59 pm
Hot pepperoni, chilli, olives, anchovies, basil and extra cheese. Yum.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 7:01 pm
Fish on pizzas? That’s weird.
Spose you freaks don’t have peas and worcestershire sauce on your pies either?
Stay down south, you have no place up here in paradise.
jumpnmcar
5 Dec 12 at 7:01 pm
Ham and pineapple were made for each other.
Pizza,
Melt,
Calzone.
Umm, hungry now. Off to Pizza Boys, Ham Cheese and Pineapple, thin and crispy.
Rudiau
5 Dec 12 at 7:03 pm
Mk50 – I went to your link & found this “The Essential Goa Cookbook”.
Now THAT is more to my taste.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 7:04 pm
IT
Tomato is a fruit.
jumpnmcar
5 Dec 12 at 7:04 pm
Yes Rudiau, thin and crispy or forgedit.
jumpnmcar
5 Dec 12 at 7:06 pm
Gab, don’t waste concepts like fresh basil, coriander, pitted calamata olives and fresh brie on these primitives. They think Honolulu is the spiritual home of the pizza.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 7:14 pm
So was Rock Hudson and he could still play a leading man.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 7:19 pm
No argument from me, Carpe
Chicken Xacuti with Goan mung bean curry……… patoleo for dessert
(and guess what I have planted in the garden next to teh glangal and ginger? – this summer I grow my own turmeric so I have the leaves for patoleo!)
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 7:23 pm
lol Except for coriander. The herb neds to be erradicated from the face of the earth. Iread once that people can be genetically predisosed to hating coriander. I reckon I have a dozen of those genes.
Best Pizza in Melbourne is found at DOCs in Carlton or Mornington. Try the white pizza with mushrooms . Dfuckinglcious.
Best pizza in the world is at Mimis on Lex and 84th.
There’s a story that Paul McCartney sent his Gulfstram jet to NY to picks some up and ship them back to London. Sounds plausible, but still think it’s bullshit.
JC
5 Dec 12 at 7:23 pm
pimf. Galangal.
Oh, found a good description of how to make patoleo for you
Enjoy.
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 7:26 pm
How to tell when chicken is properly cooked:
Preheat oven to 220c.
Brush chicken well with melted butter, salt and pepper.
Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn.
Place in baking pan with the neck towards the back of the oven.
Listen to the popping sounds.
When the chicken’s arse blows the oven door open, it’s done.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 7:38 pm
An Italian gentleman with a weakness for scooping anchovies out of the tin with his fingers can be excused an aversion to fresh coriander, which is better suited to cud munchers with English ancestry.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 7:45 pm
Brie? On pizza? What is wrong with you people?
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 7:49 pm
Mk50 – The book on Goan cooking sounds like it would suit the tastes of me and Lady Jugulum. She cooks Japanese (obviously) and i do the BBQ and spicy food.
The book seems like a happy medium for both of us. It’s been ordered. Good tag.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 7:55 pm
I suggest you head to the Westernport side of the Peninsula and try the pizza at La Lupa in Tyabb.
It craps all over that muck you’re eating.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 7:58 pm
Proper fresh room-temperature French brie is a modern wonder of the world. If it hasn’t been already, a sainthood should be conferred on the frog who invented the D’Affinois brand. Australians should be forbidden from making and marketing what they refer to as “brie”.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 8:09 pm
We sometimes make our pizza. We have an electric pizza oven which has a stone base. With the right Pizza base it really can’t be beaten.
JC
5 Dec 12 at 8:12 pm
Mk50,
Those Goan recipes are a bit fascinating, I like the fishy ones, particularly the prawn rissoles, and also the curried eggs.
If only I could twitch my nose like Samantha in Bewitched and have them just pop out of thin air!
candy
5 Dec 12 at 8:12 pm
Is that the one that comes in a disk shaped wooden box, Tom?
If it is , then it’s really mouthwatering.
JC
5 Dec 12 at 8:13 pm
Brie? Real men only eat hard cheese.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 8:16 pm
Mercy sakes alive… I just had the though of Abbott accidentally getting himself a …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPTWZQv0liY
We just ainta gonna pay no toll…
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 8:17 pm
The one in the wooden box is the King Island brand, JC. It’s as good as you’ll get in Australia. But it’s not French.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 8:19 pm
Never had French Brie (does it wave a white flag when you open it?).
However, King Island does a Blue Cheese you would sell your Grandmother to have, it’s sharp & has a real bite with a smooth cream finish. With a nice Pinot it is lush.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 8:19 pm
If he does I’m sure Albosleazy will recycle his derisive convoy comment. he’s so negative.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 8:20 pm
Tom obviiously is a man of discriminating tastes.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 8:21 pm
Cook your own is fun, and with a good oven (stone helps) you can do wonders. But I have to admit a proper traditional wood fired pizza place can create special and memorable flavours with simple and good ingredients. Like literally slabs of mozzarella, fresh tomato, fresh basil.
blogstrop
5 Dec 12 at 8:22 pm
How long before the ABC parody Abbott with footage of his near-miss in the 2010 campaign (without his words, of course)?
And who will be that scumbag?
jumpnmcar
5 Dec 12 at 8:28 pm
Carpe, the surrender monkeys do know more than any other civilisation on earth about making cheese in all its varieties. That and their glorious plonk and their outrageous historic arrogance are the only things to like about them, IMO. My best to Lady Jugs.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 8:40 pm
I will concede they do make some lovely reds.
Carpe Jugulum
5 Dec 12 at 9:00 pm
Mention of J.W. McCall’s song, Convoy (1975), leads me into thinking about the decline of America. From “just ainta gonna pay no toll” to Obama’s goody two-shoes society of willing statist weaklings.
“Big Ben (Bernanke), this here’s a Sandra Fluke, we just really gotta pay that toll, so we crashed the state using mighty hate, I said ‘let them suckers fold, 10-4′.”
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 9:49 pm
They do not make lovely reds. Their white wines are good – red are far too thin.
Sinclair Davidson
5 Dec 12 at 9:53 pm
I’ve recently changed my opinion of the French. On two separate occasions I’ve had to do business with some ex-pats and they were straight up bonzer people. I trade a Pom for a Frog any day.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 9:57 pm
That’ll be the antifreeze Sinc
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 10:01 pm
Sinc’s getting all protective of the colonial plonk from Stellenbosch.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 10:02 pm
Returning from Samuel’s Paris, Cat Team VI needs to swing by WA and rendition IT.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 10:03 pm
Think about it though. Any Frog prepared to emigrate to Australia is likely to assimilate much faster than a Limey. They will be better looking, have better hygiene and won’t whinge like little pommy bitches.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 10:05 pm
The only South African wine I drink is Pinotage and I buy whatever I can get. I drink Australian reds and New Zealand whites.
While in Europe I found some nice Chilean wines.
Sinclair Davidson
5 Dec 12 at 10:05 pm
Thread of doom begins.
Sinclair Davidson
5 Dec 12 at 10:06 pm
There is too much opportunity for a recently arrived To n’ From to continue being British. The French don’t have those troubles yet.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 10:06 pm
True.
Re hygiene, I read this story a couple of years ago in the Guardian:
PLEASE NOTE: the Guardian presents the phenomenon as a growing, possibly good trend.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 10:12 pm
CL et al regarding Evan Sayet: he nails it, and it is my essential viewing. That talk, and Bill Whittle’s The Narrative are staples for when I get asked about how we got to where we are now.
I have watched both of them countless times, as they have packed so much valuable information into a format that suits today with its dearth of serious readers.
Then I go on to recommend books: Rodney Stark’s God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades and The Victory of Reason and Lee Harris’s The Suicide of Reason, Radical Islam’s Threat to the West.
Harris’s book is somewhat mistitled (is that a word?) because I didn’t find there was much about islam in it. Not that is an issue, as I prefer my own situation. I’ve got the quran and the Reliance, so there’s not much else I need on that front.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 10:16 pm
Brian O Driscoll, Ireland Rugby Captain on the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLd-Vi8qZA
.
5 Dec 12 at 10:16 pm
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 10:17 pm
Brilliant.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 10:18 pm
I recently watched a show on SBS I think called Coastline where they visited a coastal town in France where most of Frances’ onions are grown. The same place where the famous Onion Johnnies travelled over to England to sell onions.
They would load up their bicycles and ride from town to town. Some would spend 3-6 months at a time doing this.
Bloody hard work but I guess it was a living.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 10:19 pm
I would respectfully add Andrew Klavan’s Shut Up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHgUE9AD4s
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 10:20 pm
SERIOUSLY, WTF?
.
5 Dec 12 at 10:20 pm
hey Nilk. Went to the 1230 Mass at St Stephen’s cathedral again today. Had a young Ugandan priest – my he was good!
making this a standard Wednesday attendance.
Mk50 of Brisbane
5 Dec 12 at 10:24 pm
Seriously. It tastes disgusting on a pizza. Bacon, pepperoni, chorizo, salamis are all fine. But not ham – with the exception of proscuitto, maybe.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 10:25 pm
IMHO, pineapple has no place on a pizza. And pizza base should be thin and crispy.
Lloyd
5 Dec 12 at 10:29 pm
How about eggs?
Why do they call a Pizza with ham and egg an Aussie Pizza?
I could understand if the meat was Kangaroo or Wombat and the cheese was made from Dugong milk or even if the pizza base was made of damper but what’s so Australian about pork and egg?
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 10:30 pm
Twas ever thus, as noted by Nietzche
Lazlo
5 Dec 12 at 10:33 pm
Nothing more tragic than a bunch of people running around tearing their hair out over what a pizza really is. It’s whatever the eater wants it to be, really. And pineapple is magnificent in cooked dishes, if you can get good pines (hint, if you live south of paradise, you’re getting the crap ones) and you know what to do with them. It’s the acid in the pineapples that can cut through a greasy dish and bring it alive. That’s why it rocks with Pizza that also has salty things like ham.
As for the froggies, the Comte cheese is yellow stinky heaven. And I have a serious thing for Cotes du Rhone reds. It all goes back to a chalet in the Alps, a night of Raclette and a serious lapse of judgement leading to a bottle of Absinthe, in which a friend of mine burnt of his eyebrows. But I’ve loved the cote du rhone ever since.
brc
5 Dec 12 at 10:38 pm
Tofu is great on a pizza for those of us who don’t eat red meat but there must be lashings of mushrooms capsicum and tomatoes to give it oomph plus paprika and other spices etc feta is great
candy
5 Dec 12 at 10:40 pm
I don’t see anyone doing that here. Just a group of people discussing the topic.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 10:41 pm
Good pizza isn’t greasy. No grease, no need for pineapple. I rest my case.
Lloyd
5 Dec 12 at 10:44 pm
Woops, wrong thread, sorry..
Lazlo
5 Dec 12 at 10:46 pm
Cooked pineapple is an abomination. It should be taken out and shot*. Raw pineapple is okay.
On burgers: pineapple is revolting, and since I’m not a huge pizza fan I used to order a ham and pineapple without the pineapple. Now I go the meat lovers with extra sauce.
Oh, and beetroot on hamburgers = +100.
*this is not a threat.**
** unless you are a pineapple.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 10:48 pm
Fantastic, Mk50. I was looking at going to a saturday Mass this weekend, but I’ve got about 14 other places to go to.
We’re going the High Mass on sunday morning then catching up with friends after.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 10:49 pm
Absolutely! But no to fried onions (raw is fine) and no to pickles.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 10:50 pm
Splat, a mate of mine with only daughters found a way to equalise that one: the lid stays down.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 10:51 pm
No pickles? Get real.
Infidel tiger
5 Dec 12 at 10:54 pm
Pizza was and is peasant food for Italian labourers: a destination for leftovers from the fridge (and the meat cooler before it). That’s why it’s so tasty and full of carbs. Workers’ food as creative as you want it to be. Yum. *Burb*.
Tom
5 Dec 12 at 10:55 pm
Why don’t we have urinals at home? This would seem a societal oversight.
Infidel tiger
5 Dec 12 at 10:56 pm
That’s what lemon trees are for.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 10:58 pm
Pickles are for Ploughman’s Lunch or similar. They have no jurisdiction over hamburgers.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 10:58 pm
I hate pizza nazis.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 10:59 pm
My favourite trucking song:I Drive A Truck by TISM off Great Truckin’ Songs of the Renaissance. Go to 29.35 for song 11.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 11:00 pm
No Pizza for you!
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 11:01 pm
Changing the subject from lunch..
There is a report out of Tasmania claiming that the fox problem there is at a tipping point, about to get beyond control. This, and previous reports, have prompted baiting programs which have led to the deaths of dogs and perhaps other animals.
A slight problem with this is that there have been no actual foxes trapped or sighted in Tasmania, nor wild or farm animals killed by foxes. The evidence for the alleged problem is based on very uncertain DNA samples, and the tipping point alarm is the output of a computer model.
Does this sound familiar?
Lazlo
5 Dec 12 at 11:09 pm
There was a time in my youth when you could walk into just about any McDonalds and find a pickle montage stuck to the ceiling where traditional hamburger refuseniks would open a big mac, remove the pickles and flick them into the air quicker than a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
Having the correct amount of Mayo on the pickle was the key to successful adhesion.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 11:10 pm
Bill Warner’s Why We Are Afraid is another to add to your list of things you must see. Gates of Vienna with VladTepesBlog have also been putting together a rosetta stone for this talk. So far they’ve got it subtitled into 11 languages other an english.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 11:10 pm
The food rules being brought up here are bizzare and wrong.
You deserve to be vegans for a year.
.
5 Dec 12 at 11:15 pm
Mayo on hamburgers? Barbarians!
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 11:15 pm
>I hate pizza nazis.
This is what I was trying to say. ‘Oh no, that’s not a pizza. Only I know the real, true pizza’
A pizza is whatever you want it to be. End of story. The ultimate in personalised food.
brc
5 Dec 12 at 11:16 pm
Dot, I was a vegan for 10 months. Does that count? I really missed steak.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 11:18 pm
It’s not like we’re lefties enforcing pizza rules. We’re just talking trash for a bit of fun. Only a lefty would take the discussion seriously.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 11:19 pm
I’ve always been partial to Breitbarts interview on Uncommon Knowledge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8CpON8VrRU
Specifically the section about the Frankfurt School:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8CpON8VrRU&t=20m00s
“they were depressed by the relentless cheeriness” of 1940′s California.
twostix
5 Dec 12 at 11:20 pm
I’m a pizza libertarian. You can put anything the hell you want on your pizza as long as you don’t force me to eat it, and I’d like you to afford me the same privilege.
Back home I’ve been known to make pizza with leftover fried chicken, bacon, collard greens, sliced okra and pimento cheese on it. To each his own.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 11:24 pm
Klavan’s great. I’ve not seen the Breitbart one, so I’ll check that out tomorrow. It’s time for bed here in Chez Bogan.
nilk
5 Dec 12 at 11:24 pm
Hey, peace out, food soldiers.
Let’s all settle our differences over a nice big cup of Nescafe.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 11:30 pm
Sound familiar? Yes it does.
Sounds like they need to call in the army like they did in WA during the so called “Emu wars”.
Hilarious to think that they managed to destroy more crops through machine gun fire than what the Emus had actually ravaged.
Splatacrobat
5 Dec 12 at 11:30 pm
The best pizza I can recommend is a thin base, bolognese sauce, baby spinach, smoked salmon, capers, pepperoni, chicken, mushroom and onion, oregano and a mix of gorgonzola, mozarella and cheddar.
Add olives or anchovies as desired and do not overtop it.
The perfect mix of sweet and salty.
If you get a store bought pizza, someone out there in consumer land said Eagle Boys.
I recommend
#1
BBQ sauce
Mid base
Douple Pepperoni
Beef
Chicken
Onion
Muchroom
Cheese
#2
Thin base
Tomato/regular sauce
Double pepperoni
mushroom
onion
oregano
Tomato slices if they still do them
Possibly olives or anchovies to taste
I will say lately I’ve taken a liking to the white pizza style.
.
5 Dec 12 at 11:31 pm
Reverted back to fake coffee, CL? What happened to your slight progress towards entertaining the concept of real coffee, the Robert Timms bags? There’s just no hope for you.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 11:35 pm
Your one redeeming feature, Dot is that you’re a pipe smoker.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 11:36 pm
We should really go back to discussing something less contentious, like gay marriage or capital punishment.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 11:36 pm
Just for something different from the pizza wars.
Poor Old Rafe
5 Dec 12 at 11:37 pm
Elitist.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 11:38 pm
I will defend Oporto’s liberal use of mayo on their burgers until the last man and last shilling. The Soon will rise again and back me up on this.
.
5 Dec 12 at 11:38 pm
I like salsa, pepperjack cheese and avocado on my burgers.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 11:41 pm
Actually Nilk, I have always liked the next song. As far as an, in your face, upset your mum, punk song goes, it ranks only second to that great standard of the Brisbane band the Black Assassins “F*ck me, F*ck my dog”
Oh & Mk50 glad to see you finally worked out the difference between St John’s & St Stephen’s
Just Another bloody Lawyer
5 Dec 12 at 11:46 pm
I love mayo in burgers.
You want to see food nazis, just try and add ketchup to a hotdog in Chicago.
I might add that Chicago deep dish pizza is digusting.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 11:47 pm
Mention of Soon reminds me that you can be an uber-macho bloke without having a driver’s licence.
But Soon’s the only known example.
C.L.
5 Dec 12 at 11:49 pm
Obama (the New Man) and the drones. The New Yorker is solid left, imagine what they would be saying if Bush had pursued this kind of drone warfare.
I don’t usually have time for Ralph Nader but he appears to be onto something here.
Poor Old Rafe
5 Dec 12 at 11:50 pm
But but but Rafe, the One (TM) was a constitutional lecturer. He would never wipe his arse with the Bill of Rights and use the constitution of the USA as a napkin. /sarc
Just Another bloody Lawyer
5 Dec 12 at 11:53 pm
And if I use seriously hot salsa or blacken the burger cajun-style, a bit of sour cream to cool it back down. No mayo.
sdog
5 Dec 12 at 11:53 pm
I like tasty cheese, vegemite and raw onion sammiches using white bread. Comfort food.
Gab
5 Dec 12 at 11:56 pm
Man vs. Food is my idea of heaven.
Infidel Tiger
5 Dec 12 at 11:58 pm
New Zealand sends us their bludgers
Bloody Kiwis.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/new-zealand-sends-us-their-bludgers/story-e6freuy9-1226530774441
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 12:02 am
Thick slices of bacon, dipped in maple syrup, coated with grits and then deep-fried.
I’m hungry now.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 12:03 am
Maybe we need to cut Obama some slack because he is a New Man? That probably makes it OK to kill innocent people with drones.
Poor Old Rafe
6 Dec 12 at 12:07 am
Pizza is not food.
Pizza is what the progeny always, always trotted out when I’d visit after doing business in Sydney. Take away pizza. You’d do as well by merely eating the cardboard carton.
I detest pizza, despise it, run far away from it as a consequence of that traumatic period. You cannot eat it with chopsticks, which I’ve used for 20 odd years. Ya can’t have it with rice and lemon and soy – that just doesn’t work.
I could have knocked up a passable stir fry for them with whatever I found in their pantries notwithstanding the kitchen hand, like most Asians, forbids me doing anything in her domain and I’d have to prepare based on observation only. I could even bring a whole schnapper with me, bake it and dish it up with rice and bok choy etc for them – delicious! – but no, it was “What pizza do you want Dad – the bland, the innocuous, the insipid or the beige?”
They’ve matured and enjoy real food now but I’m still recovering.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
6 Dec 12 at 12:08 am
m0nty was unavailable for comment.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 12:16 am
For those cats of a certain age. This link then has an amazing retro set of links.
Just Another bloody Lawyer
6 Dec 12 at 12:37 am
Funded by Barack Obama:
Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women.
Oh, look over there – a GOP ‘war on women.’
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 1:08 am
I remember back in 70s the old style Pizza Hut pizzas which were thin and crispy with tasty light pizza sauce, not tomato paste. It was a real treat for us kids to go and sit at their red and white checkered tables with the fat red candles and chomp away at a supreme.
Sadly, Pizza Hut pizzas today are bland and unsatisfying and their restaurants have all the appeal of a food court.
Lloyd
6 Dec 12 at 1:10 am
Like old Ben Chifley driving trains.
Cold-Hands
6 Dec 12 at 1:26 am
No they’re not. You can believe anything you like in your own head.
Oh, so what was “People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think,…” about? If people can believe anything they like in their own head they can never be told what to think.
At the end of the day, does it really matter where a fella parks his pecker?
Between consenting adults, I can’t see why it needs to be anyone else’s business.
We were never talking about ‘pecker parking’, and even when it is between consenting adults, it certainly may be other people’s business, say, the business of the adulterer’s wife or husband, and thus also our business because we grant certain privileges to those who are married and have publicly vowed to remain faithful to each other.
Having a politician being secure enough to not hide their sexuality from society at large as some shameful secret is a sign of societal progress.
Except that no one was concerned with the Senator’s lesbianism. Still, do you think that every disclosure of one’s sexual peccadilloes would be a sign of societal progress? That one Senator or MHR likes dogging, and that another likes BDSM, and that another likes golden showers, and so on. Progress?
If someone wants to identify as a man, woman or third, then frankly I’ll go along with their wishes. Call it the fair go or polite dinner party rule. I’ll afford them as much respect as they offer me.
As for the legal ramifications though (changing rooms, discrimination etc)… that’s still in play I guess.
Let me start with the last. Firstly, the only reason those things are in play is because of your polite dinner party rule. Secondly, when did affording someone respect mean that you simply played along with what was obviously absurd? Think of yourself in the Crying Game scenario, would you simply have continued to respect ‘her’ chosen self-identification and played along?
dover_beach
6 Dec 12 at 1:54 am
Moving on to more important topics, pizzas need to be thin-crusted, a base that remains in the background, and with no more than 4-5 toppings.
dover_beach
6 Dec 12 at 1:58 am
One of which must be anchovies
squawkbox
6 Dec 12 at 2:12 am
Oh, Florida.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 2:33 am
I once put mercury into the fish tank at school as an experiment. No one called the hazmat team but I got called up to the principal’s office.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 2:46 am
If there’s an enterprising student there, they should call out hazmat very time they see a CFC lightbulb.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 3:00 am
Piers Morgan: another chuckleheaded Leftard who believes that criticizing him violates his First Amendment rights.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 3:06 am
Tennis ball attacks on possums and now a fish massacre.
Shame on you, Gab.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 3:22 am
“The female of the species is more deadly than the male.”
Discuss.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 4:07 am
Stick around. I like the way you think.
Abu Chowdah
6 Dec 12 at 4:14 am
Potemkin’s Village
Is there just one woman in Australian public life with the courage… here
Grigory Potemkin
6 Dec 12 at 4:18 am
It’s either one of the Steves, or m0nty. Has to be.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 6:15 am
I found a better solution was to dip the pickles in a mixture of the sweet’n'sour sauce (from the McNuggets) and a few drops of Coke.
This made a glue like solution which would enable the pickles to stick to anything, and once dried became almost impossible to remove.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 6:56 am
Another Labor social engineering handout hits the rocks.
AN ambitious scheme giving welfare recipients matched savings if they can save $500 has failed spectacularly in its first two years, with only 20 people receiving money.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 7:19 am
Nice to know that they acknowledge being left wing is the same as being extreme.Maquarie Dictionary have been notified.
Also gratifying to know local manufacturing is still thriving despite overseas competition.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 7:28 am
A former Labor MP who blew the whistle on Gillard’s corrupt boyfriend in 1995 is in the process of making a statement to Victorian fraud squad detectives:
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 7:47 am
So how many complaints have to be demonstrated as false before they can be classified as ‘serial’? This should be interesting…
Entropy
6 Dec 12 at 7:47 am
Wow, it seems you have to be a former Labor MP to be willing to cooperate with police.
Token
6 Dec 12 at 8:03 am
The simmering resentment against Gillard inside cabinet is approaching terminal:
H/T Bolt
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 8:13 am
This is now becoming like a modern day “pass the parcel” game at a kids party where every layer unwrapped holds a prize. Here’s hoping that when the music finally stops for the last time the parcel is in the hands of Julia.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 8:19 am
What a bargain!
Mentally ill Jew hating communist hippy and duck pleasurer puts out staggeringly unfunny calendar – and it’s only two dollars!
Yes folks, who else but fauxfacts…
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 8:34 am
Obese, lobotomised marxist dinosaur (but I repeat myself) spouts absolute shite in the OZ:
How’s that for wrongology?
The sooner these mentally defective moonbats are consigned to the rubbish bin of history, the better.
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 8:46 am
LOL that’s (nescafe) gold!!
Agent provocateur!
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 8:59 am
Here comes the economic shitstorm that the Canberra rabble has, at best, been ignoring or, at worst, contributing to:
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 9:06 am
John Faulkner was saying on Fran’s RN show that it’s “self-evident” that NSW Labor is in a mess. Apparently no problem federally, though. That’s a relief. Must just be bad luck, all those aspects of our nation that are falling in a hole.
blogstrop
6 Dec 12 at 9:29 am
Dover, the italicised meddling comment was a quote was from the Firefly based movie Serenity, a point someone else picked up on. Generally speaking, it seemed to apply pretty well to nanny staters and moralist conservatives alike as both can have collectivist enforcement tendencies.
Without casting nasturtiums, I’ve met a lot of people who seemed troppo, eccentric, dissonant or different. Underneath, they’re just as banal and normal as anyone else. So maybe my absurdity or TMI filter kicks in a little later is all.
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 9:30 am
Absurd is deep dish pizza with the cyst-like injections inside.
Abomination, thy name is deep dish.
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 9:32 am
Remember folks, this brain damaged dullard was considered one of the intellectual powerhouses of the ALP.
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 9:44 am
Life’s rich pageant…
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 9:45 am
This is quite sad actually, I won’t gloat over this one.
They have been conditioned not to save whilst at the same time ALP policy has brought on cruel increases in the cost of living.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:52 am
Dot
and how easy – or more likely hard – was it to apply and receive the matched savings ?
If it is like the rest of the government form-a-thon, you would need a degree in systems analysis and advanced English language skills to navigate the paperwork.
I am of course willing to be convinced otherwise, but I’ll bet a lot of the potential clientele for this initiative couldn’t navigate the system.
Myrrdin Seren
6 Dec 12 at 10:03 am
Yeah – this will make a difficult and troubled industry better:
Endgame – pile on enough red tape, green tape and blue tape – and the private sector disappears.
We can doubtless look forward to industry superfunds partnering with the government to introduce AustCab – the federal taxi equivalent of the NBN.
The roll-out should be awesome.
Myrrdin Seren
6 Dec 12 at 10:08 am
Monckton in Doha. The only way he could look sillier is if he was in blackface.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 10:12 am
This is the current ALP attitude. If something requires more training, it MUST increase productivity.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:14 am
Ah yes monty, Monckton is an idiot because he has a congenital condition – tell me did he agree to use an air scrubber 24/7 like some of the delegates?
You muppet.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:16 am
What congenital condition requires him to dress like an oil sheik, Dot?
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 10:18 am
Derp, two things, neither CL nor I were moralizing, and there seems to be rather a clear correlation between increasing social liberalism and increasing collectivization.
dover_beach
6 Dec 12 at 10:19 am
He looks like less of an idiot than the warmie clowns who wore an oxygen scrubbing mask.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:42 am
No.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:43 am
Completely moronic suggestion… so ALP will probably support it.
Fleeced
6 Dec 12 at 10:48 am
No, this women beats Monkton’s attempt to fit in with local culturally appropriate attire, hands down.
Token
6 Dec 12 at 10:52 am
Please, let me enjoy my moment agreeing with m0nty.
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 10:54 am
Here are the scheme’s mandated, sustainable cabs…
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 10:57 am
He’s just displaying the appropriate cultural sensitivitah, mUttley.
When in Rome, etc…
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 10:59 am
It’s hilarious that he’s wearing a bedsheet and handtowel while the blokes behind him are wearing Western suits. Who is trying to fit in with whom?
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 11:03 am
Rabz
I am probably going to hate myself for when the ALP Catallaxy Monitoring Support Group turns this in to policy but…
The obvious way to get the vehicle unions on side is to require specialist, unique vehicles to be built in Australia that will be safe for the drivers, safe for the passengers and – kaching – sustainable, thereby requiring further massive taxpayer subsidies to the car manufacturing scam to ‘encourage’.
My consoling thought is – if I have figured out where this is going – they already have and are just awaiting the right moment of public outrage to announce the new policy.
Myrrdin Seren
6 Dec 12 at 11:06 am
Well, maybe he’s just taking the piss.
Why don’t you ask him? I’m sure he’d be thrilled to hear from one of his devoted fans.
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 11:09 am
If I want the opinion of a deluded loon, I need only to visit the Cat.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 11:20 am
So when is the semenblogger going to re-emerge from the depths?
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 11:23 am
When he’s finished having fun with HSU-funded strip club visits? I dunno Rabz.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 11:27 am
In a sense I was moralising, Dover. We were discussing a ‘lesbian’ who is partnered to a woman pretending to be a man. Andrew Bolt said the acceptance of these clearly disturbed individuals – one as a senator – was a sign of progress. No. It is, rather, a sign of our society’s infantilism and unwillingness to stare down the Maoist bullying of media-favoured freaks. The senator’s partner is not a man, never has been a man and never will be a man – left-wing gender-bender birtherism notwithstanding. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing ‘libertarian’ about accepting – and being forced to accept – a bizarre untruth. So yes, we can say that the mainstreaming of the ‘transgendered’ is immoral. The rejection of it, along with Senator Pratt’s weirdly contrived ideological corollaries – chief of which is her incongruous advocacy of gay ‘marriage’ – is morally superior.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 11:33 am
Right. Libertarians who dimiss ‘social policy’ are accepting the growth of the Sandra Fluke, NARAL mega-state. They are statists.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 11:36 am
M0nty, as your favourite writer Mark Steyn is often quoted as saying:
Seeing we have to accept that one of our senators truly is married to a women who is now a man, why can’t an English aristocrat wear what he likes when in a Persion Gulf Emirite?
Me-thinks you are showing a bit of cultural insensitivity there M0nty.
Token
6 Dec 12 at 11:38 am
Wow, Snap x2 today.
Token
6 Dec 12 at 11:39 am
Another one…
BBC presenter Stuart Hall charged with indecent assaults.
Interesting that no Murdoch staff have been accused of raping children.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 11:40 am
Bullshit.
.
6 Dec 12 at 11:41 am
How paternalistic is that though?! And why should taxpayers’ money be spent on this ridiculous scheme?
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 11:41 am
Wow
Biff Latham truly seems to be moving his emotional slider bar back into the red zone:
I thought they’d had a pleasant, smoke-the-peace-pipe lunch together recently ?
The biggest issue around is errors about S&G ??
So what is the point of writing a book full of helpful analysis about an industry whose demise you keenly anticipate ??
Myrrdin Seren
6 Dec 12 at 11:43 am
And in other news of Gillard lies and ceaseless fail:
Worst prime minister in the history of the Commonwealth.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 11:45 am
April 2011: Latham savages ‘wooden, childless’ Gillard.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 11:47 am
He can wear what he likes, Token, but he’s not immune from commentary. Free speech, remember?
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 11:47 am
Perhaps Mark Latham is just gathering publicity for a new book and so is saying outrageous things to get people interested to buy it.
I don’t think he has a proper job.
candy
6 Dec 12 at 11:52 am
I actually think it is great you linked to Monkton and made your comment.
I got a big chuckle from it. Poltiical Correctness has stifled so much of the charming and bizarre English eccentricity which I enjoyed in my younger years.
Token
6 Dec 12 at 11:53 am
Paging Dr Bob Brown…
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 11:55 am
Makes more sense to wear Arab attire in the heat of Doha than western suits.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 11:57 am
Statists compared to whom?
That’s a stretch. B/C I accept that, I agree to full taxpayer funding of gender reassignment surgery and contraception? Pfft!!
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 12:07 pm
Especially when they turn off the A/C in those conference halls, limosines, hotels and business class lounges.
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 12:08 pm
Labor only put Bob Carr in the Senate to make John Faulkner look hip for the kids.
H B Bear
6 Dec 12 at 12:21 pm
Yes every inch is a veritable fridge over there.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 12:24 pm
Nobody knows more about government welfare that Kim “Jong” Carr.
Except maybe Holden, Ford and Toyota.
H B Bear
6 Dec 12 at 12:26 pm
I think this was well worth the $10,000 to prove that many financial problems are spending and discipline related rather than a lack of income. Even the hardest up welfare family should have been a le to put away $500 in the anticipation of a 100% return on investment.
brc
6 Dec 12 at 12:29 pm
Gab, time to say sorry about the fish incident?
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 12:30 pm
One of my friends bought me an authentic Saudi sheet and headdress thing, it’s a hoot at costume parties, of which I normally despise. Could ever pull off the gold rimmed sunnies though.
brc
6 Dec 12 at 12:32 pm
Whe you give up the Nescafe, maybe then.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 12:32 pm
Then there was the time we – as in group of yoofs – entered a neighbour’s property when they were away to “liberate” the fish from their own rock pool/waterfall prison and set them free in the larger swimming pool…
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 12:37 pm
You’re once again engaging in Hate Speech and bigotry against another culture. First it was those funny asians and their weird utensils now your poking fun at the clothes that half a billion people wear.
You’re a racist like SfB is a sexist.
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 12:50 pm
They, the wealthy Canberra technocratic elite were just trying to use a carrot on a stick to teach the welfare class to be better people – like them.
In the retread of the 1900′s that we seem to be taking they’ll soon reject the paternalistic idea that the welfare class can be “helped” and will start advocating for eugenics again.
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 12:56 pm
Only a minority of welfare recipients were able to use the scheme though – those on income management. And they had to save the full $500 over 13 weeks – $40/week (which had to come from their non-income managed income) for those already on very low incomes probably is quite difficult.
If you read the full article there was another scheme that would match up to $500 but participants could set a lower goal amount. And 83% of participants succeeded.
Chris
6 Dec 12 at 1:05 pm
Says the offensive fat fuck…. The institutionalist.
Fat boy, go buy a bag of dunkins and settle down.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 1:16 pm
I’m only racist against stupid people, 26. People who are smart enough to know better, but act stupid. The wilfully ignorant. People who use apostrophes in nouns. People like you.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 1:20 pm
Saving $40 per week would be difficult for low income earners, let alone welfare recipients.
Medical bills for a child, higher than normal electriciy bill, some work on the car to keep it going to get to work – the savings plan is busted.
candy
6 Dec 12 at 1:21 pm
Gab, I wonder how long your neighbores were “befuddled fish fate seekers” after their return home?
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 1:21 pm
BTW, is the plural of ‘yoof’, ‘yooves’?
Enquiring minds need to know…
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 1:28 pm
No Rabz, it’s definitely yoofs. Has to be one of the language’s irregulars.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 1:34 pm
Thanks, Lizzie.
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 1:39 pm
Mercury is for wimps.
A bloke at our school nicked a whole bottle of pure sodium from the chem lab. He threw one tablet in a fish pond.
BOOM.
Thankfully, we was busted before he could throw the entire contents of the bottle in.
boy on a bike
6 Dec 12 at 1:45 pm
Ah grammar nazism: the last refugee of the cowed internet beta male.
It’s a little weird that you, who after three years of failing still can’t read my screen name is calling me stupid because of punctuation in a blog comment.
Then I suppose it’s like you calling other people bigots and racists then laughing at other cultures clothing and utensils.
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 1:48 pm
Nice work there, notice how they backhand Fox whilst they handwring about a dry year.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 1:51 pm
In the retread of the 1900′s that we seem to be taking they’ll soon reject the paternalistic idea that the welfare class can be “helped” and will start advocating for eugenics again.
Surely that experiment is still running? The remote enclaves of Northern and Central Australia; where freedom to identify as Australian, participate in mainstream and marry of one’s choice have been curtailed since the re-tribalisation program began.
A eugenics program which was effected through a strictly controlled permit system, bi-lingual education focused on selective cultural matters, select academic output which could not be verified by others, and all thought and speech funneled through the dear leaders. With any person trying to discuss the horror of it all, promptly silenced.
Jessie
6 Dec 12 at 1:53 pm
In the comments at the CAGW Christmas tree edition was this piece of spam:
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Best friend’s half sister? Talk about 6 degrees of separation. I thought it was usually a sister in law making the crazy dough for just a few hours work.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 1:53 pm
26, your willful ignorance goes way beyond apostrophes. That is as good a place to start as any, nonetheless.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 1:54 pm
A truckload being disposed of by dropping it in a lake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwANYVSwOos
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 1:55 pm
LOL.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 1:55 pm
Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet, but Jazz legend Dave Brubeck passed away over night. His album Time Out was the album that got me into jazz in the first place.
When the needle dropped on this track it opened up a world I’d never explored
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc34Uj8wlmE
I’ve loved odd time in music ever since.
Notable also was the passing of the great Brazilian architect Oscar Niemeyer, the bloke who probably never designed with a right angle ever…
tbh
6 Dec 12 at 1:57 pm
Ah sodium, something that my high school science teacher loved to blow up. Potassium is another good once, very reactive.
tbh
6 Dec 12 at 2:00 pm
Well, yes, CL, but that was a moralism so subtle and unavoidable as to be not worth mentioning.
dover_beach
6 Dec 12 at 2:00 pm
It’s ok m0nty, your betamaleness is inherent and surely too late to change but I’ll continue to try and help you as long as you’re here.
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 2:04 pm
Look at m0nty dishing out insults?!? Do you ever learn………..?
Well here goes…… did se7en’s script writers have that picture of you playing golf m0nty when they came up with this?
“m0nty? Innocent of trolling? Is that supposed to be funny? An obese man… a disgusting man who could barely stand up; a man who if you saw him on the street, you’d point him out to your friends so that they could join you in mocking him; a man, who if you saw him while you were eating, you wouldn’t be able to finish your meal…..”
harrys on the boat
6 Dec 12 at 2:10 pm
That’s what HIA, in total exasperation, calls me re learning computer stuff with any competence and depth or recall. He shows me, I immediately forget.
You work on folklore, Lizzie, he says despairingly. Like your girlfriends.
Whatever it takes. I get there in the end and my brain remains happily at rest.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 2:18 pm
You mean, stupid people who cannot use chopsticks?
.
6 Dec 12 at 2:22 pm
Yes Jessie, it is a bit of a worry isn’t it? Especially for the women.
That’s Labor for you, all for maintaining the stone age as well as the rage.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 2:25 pm
It’s a bit rich mOnty criticising Arabian couture. The last pic I saw of him he was wearing a muumuu and Bernmuda shorts.
Infidel Tiger
6 Dec 12 at 2:33 pm
CAGW Big Storm in Auckland edition.
We’re doomed.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 2:35 pm
Just on the radio.
Tennis Australia is disappointed with Bernard Tomic’s behaviour. They are dropping “support funding”.
WTH? The bloke is a professional tennis player, even the first round losers are paid 25 grand.
Support funding?
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 2:47 pm
Bloated one, stop lying.
You’ve made what are perhaps the most racist comments at this blog.
You’re pathetic and your insults are too.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 2:49 pm
Are you ready for my triumphant return, rising out of the Earth on the shoulders of Gaia (who looks a little like Julia Gillard, to my surprise) to smite the wrongness of Catallaxy, and to note in passing from this thread that it seems Gab really was a bit of a ratbag in her younger days? (I doubt that’s ban-worthy, is it? So hard to tell these days…)
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 3:23 pm
Welcome back Steve. May I be the first to extend you the usual Cat cordiality/
Fuck off
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 3:29 pm
Fuck. I just stepped in something. What’s the stink around here? Looks like troll droppings.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 3:35 pm
Hi SfB. You’re a nice change from m0nty.
I commented on your blog btw.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 3:42 pm
Yes I noticed, DaveF. You’re listed in the “supporter” column in the ledger I’ve been keeping since the tumultuous events of last week.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 3:43 pm
I don’t recall vocally barracking for you, but I’ve never had a problem with you.
That CAGW article you quoted from really is bunk you know.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 3:47 pm
Thank you Sinclair. We’ve had a few days relief from threads clogged with inane drivel.
Normal service has now resumed.
squawkbox
6 Dec 12 at 3:52 pm
Dogshit thinks his banning was a “tumultuous event”. No-one noticed for days, after which it became apparent the Cat was no longer a troll sewer and people celebrated. Now the owner has decided it’s good for the blog to reduce its habitability by allowing back trolls whose only purpose in being here is to pick fights. At least Monty has an intellect, DaveF. You’re not very discriminating.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 3:54 pm
Oh dear.
tbh
6 Dec 12 at 3:54 pm
This one is funny. Look at those bemused expressions. Spot on.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 3:59 pm
Fuck off Steve.
Also shed some light. We were informed that really you’re a sad single bloke, not married, no children, right in the m0nty mould. With mental issues, too many to mention, one of which is harrassing people personally through e-mails.
harrys on the boat
6 Dec 12 at 3:59 pm
Here’s a story for CL and d-b, because it sounds like a conservative Catholic fantasy: yes, a society really exists where there appears to be no homosexuality, or even masturbation. And no, it’s not the Vatican.
Of course, the trick to having a place like this is to not wear much in the way of clothes, have sex with your spouse 3 or 4 times a night, and be able to sleep it off during the day. (It doesn’t mention it, but I also suspect it involves boys marrying or otherwise regularly sleeping with girls by age 14 or so.)
So yes, you too can arrange a society with no gays or masturbation, at the cost of never having friends over for a dinner party, because you’re too busy in the bedroom.
They probably put on very poor quality musical theater shows as well.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:01 pm
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Sinc, say it ain’t so.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 4:01 pm
Completely inaccurately.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:04 pm
Moving on: did anyone notice that solar power seems to be having a significant impact on peak demand (at least in rural Queensland, says Ergon.) We’ve had to wait for a hot summer to find out, but still.
I wonder if this will work for the cities as well…
Yay for solar.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:08 pm
So, tell us Steve, what did your “wife” and “kids” say when you told them about being booted from a blog for being a creepy sexual predator/stalker?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 4:09 pm
Oh yeah: re Monckton hamming it up again. I’m sure if Gore had appeared in Arab gear, the ridicule from here would not have stopped for months.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:14 pm
Answer the question Steve. How did your “family” feel about your banning? Sid you tell them the real reason or is it your dirty little secret?
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 4:17 pm
SidDidHuckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 4:19 pm
Stevieliar QC, have you prepared dinner?
Tiny Dancer
6 Dec 12 at 4:22 pm
Pace yourself steve or you’ll do yourself an injury.
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 4:23 pm
Oh, great. SfB’s back.
The threads will be full of crap again.
Eddystone
6 Dec 12 at 4:26 pm
People can’t afford power so they avoid the air con. Doesn’t fit the Joy Of Solar narrative, I suppose.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 4:26 pm
Chunkwart: do you really think I would bother keeping my family informed about my temporary exile from this blog?
twostix: I haven’t even mentioned the sperm count disaster that seems to be taking place in Europe, at least.
If AGW doesn’t get us, maybe plastics will.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:30 pm
Oh I see the neighbourhood is gone to tish again. It was rather pleasant here without you SFB.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 4:31 pm
So within five minutes of stevie being back he’s already posted his trademark lie with a link attached. I.e lower peak demand having nought to do with solar and everything to do with decent, hardworking Australians being forced back to a 1950′s living standard by vicious religious nutters.
Good stuff.
twostix
6 Dec 12 at 4:33 pm
DaveF: it says the mid afternoon peak demand has dropped. I’m not sure, but does mid afternoon peak happen when kids get home from school and turn the aircon on? I wouldn’t be surprised if solar power helps in that way, as there would be plenty of power still coming from them in Queensland in summer until (I would guess) 5pm or so.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:36 pm
Cool. I had to cut up sodium in the lab for certain assays – a lot was thrown down the sink with water making for lovely POPping sounds.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 4:37 pm
and his obsession with semen.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 4:38 pm
So Stevieliar QC if you didn’t tell your family I take it they don’t read your pathetic blog where you had a whinge?
Tiny Dancer
6 Dec 12 at 4:41 pm
Wow: carbon pricing leads to people being careful to buy more efficient electrical items. Who’d have guessed?
I said a few months back: I reckon the problem for the Coalition may well be that they wanted carbon pricing scrapped before the time it would be obvious that it works. That time is approaching fast.
And btw, just as there is a “pensioner who can only afford to live on dog food” story on the tabloid current affairs programs about once every 18 months, there will be stories of pensioners sitting in a hot house cause they won’t turn the electricity on. Doesn’t mean much, though.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:41 pm
Ahh newbies. They’re so innocent.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 4:41 pm
I see there has been yet another gruesome double murder in South Australia. This one involves a dwarf camel jockey.
Infidel Tiger
6 Dec 12 at 4:42 pm
TD: No, they don’t read it. Or not much. My kids are too young to be much interested. My wife has no interest at all.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:43 pm
Sorry, Huckleberry but perhaps the world will end on December 21st. Mind you, the magnificent Doomlord did take SFB off the leash about a day after The Ban of 2012. However, SFB sulked about it for days before darkening our doorstep.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 4:45 pm
Correction, nobody has any interest at all.
Tiny Dancer
6 Dec 12 at 4:45 pm
DaveF: I think you said you “don’t mind” me. By the standards of this blog, that’s like the Song of Solomon.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:46 pm
Put me down as a hater.
Nic
6 Dec 12 at 4:51 pm
Nic: this blog spent about 4 hours on pizza toppings in my absence yesterday. My input is sorely needed.
(Heh.)
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 4:54 pm
I have an intellect! Praise the Wiz.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 4:55 pm
Yes monty, your leader has flounced back here again.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 4:56 pm
Iran? I hear there are no homosexuals there, not sure about the self-enjoyment, though.
Anyway, Ahmedinnajackt said so, so it must be right.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 4:57 pm
Rabz
6 Dec 12 at 5:03 pm
Yeah, what was that pizza thing all about? Clearly pineapple on pizza is an abomination before God.
m0nty
6 Dec 12 at 5:12 pm
Since every single male Arab working in Doha, Bahrain, the UAE, KSA, and other Gulf states dresses daily in that attire, he wouldn’t have stood out and in fact would have been a hit with his Arab counterparts. I know, because I have been known to wear an abaya at social gatherings.
By the way, the observation that none of the other men in the shot is wearing a dish dash and gutra is irrelevant, since none of them is an Arab. If the camera had photographed an Arab, they would have been dressed like the Monckster.
I was in Doha last week. Apart from the business attire, it doesn’t feel like the real Middle East. More like a clean version of the Gold Coast, with no tattoed scum walking the streets.
Abu Chowdah
6 Dec 12 at 5:23 pm
In much the same way that wearing black work socks with shorts is.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 5:24 pm
It’s quite noticeable how the open forum was a lot less full of troll droppings this week, at least until about 3.23pm today. Sinc didn’t have to do the usual Wednesday sluice out and start a new one.
blogstrop
6 Dec 12 at 5:30 pm
Conferences too?
Sorry, Monckton’s a wanker who hams it up for the camera. There is plenty of pre-existing evidence for that. He fancies himself Lawrence of Arabia, I expect; although whether he likes his buttocks thrashed by his man servant is something I don’t care to know.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 5:31 pm
What kind of “man” is it that thinks of these things, especially in relation to Monckton?
Creepy.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 5:34 pm
You’re a tool, Steve.
Abu Chowdah
6 Dec 12 at 5:36 pm
Pineapple and vodka, now there’s a lovely combo.
Infidel Tiger
6 Dec 12 at 5:37 pm
SfB you pathetic waste of space.
Did your banning not teach you anything?
You have been back for 2 hours and have made at least 3 posts with direct sexual connotations.
Grow up, get your mind out of the gutter and fuck off back to the hole that you have been in for the last week.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 5:39 pm
Sinc has amnesia.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 5:41 pm
Gab: the type of “man” who is aware, as most people are, that TE Lawrence was a masochist. Once I mentioned him, the follow on joke was a natural.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 5:48 pm
SfB’s back
…whether he likes his buttocks thrashed by his man servant…
…homosexuality, or even masturbation…
have sex with your spouse …
… boys marrying or otherwise regularly sleeping with girls by age 14 …
… gays or masturbation…
Sinc, in all seriousness, is this really necessary?
Is anything actually added by having a serial pervert around?
Mk50 of Brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 5:50 pm
Once you try proper Isigny camembert, you won’t go back to insipid brie again.
Derp
6 Dec 12 at 5:53 pm
SFB! The sebaceous cyst of Catallaxy.
Abu Chowdah
6 Dec 12 at 5:53 pm
I love the way that the commenter who most frequently makes appalling taste comments about Bob Brown, or any Lefty politician who is gay, decides to act all prissy at the mention of the words “homosexuality” and “masturbation”.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 5:57 pm
OH&S rules have caught up with body in the barrel murderers.
AS/NZ 2012.8972: Because of lifting weight restrictions bodies must now only be able to fit in a sealable plastic container with carry handle not exceeding 40 kg capacity. Larger containers may be used providing approved mechanical lifting devices are employed and a full risk assesment has been conducted. A limit of three per container or 200 litres of volume whichever is greater.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 5:58 pm
No Abu, just immeasurably tiresome, banal, and uninteresting. Most of teh time I simply skip anything he posts. He never has anything to say that’s worth anything.
Mk50 of Brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 5:59 pm
Here we go. IQ49 (to borrow a Tillman-ism) only a couple of days ago:
What an absurd hypocrite.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 6:02 pm
Splat:
Wouldn’t be a workplace hazard in this case as she was a camel jockey. Couldn’t have been too heavy.
Every report I heard about the murder stressed he occupation. Stressed it. Also that her Dad and Granddad were cameleers.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 6:04 pm
Maybe they were Hazara.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 6:04 pm
Much like the sex shop that has two for one specials on buttplugs and gimp masks, the commentators who are decrying the return of Stevie B are only giving him what he wants.
Infidel Tiger
6 Dec 12 at 6:05 pm
Quote I heard recently
“For an Adult Shop there are an awful lot of picture books”
lol
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 6:06 pm
IT, you are in the “supporter” column too, you know.
Your wife will probably ask you tonight “why are you looking so glum?”
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 6:09 pm
God, there must have been some serious hardcore groveling going on.
Hey stepford, you must be the best groveler in the country.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 6:10 pm
I defended the French yesterday too, Steve. You’re in good company.
Infidel Tiger
6 Dec 12 at 6:17 pm
Gab – Christmas shopping question…
What was that aftershave you said was good several months ago during the aftershave debate?
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 6:18 pm
Don’t thank me people. Thank the several – yes, several – individuals who made the effort to email me all speaking up for Steve.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 6:22 pm
Sinc, those people need to be named and shamed.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
6 Dec 12 at 6:24 pm
People whose opinions I normally trust.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 6:27 pm
Who Sinc? Who are these treasonous bastards? Name and shame them please.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 6:27 pm
Are there any of you “severals” willing to admit emailing Sinc and letting this pansy lunatic back on? Ummmm
You’ve ruined my Xmas season.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 6:30 pm
Gucci Pour Homme II, CL.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 6:34 pm
I also think those who supported this pervert’s return need to explain why.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 6:35 pm
severals a loose term, more than two, less than many. how many, sinc?
harrys on the boat
6 Dec 12 at 6:35 pm
I’m tipping that the reason used by Sinclair to ban SFB was the issue. Not so much the ban itself.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 6:35 pm
Don’t push your luck, Stevie.
If you get banned again for being a little bantam cock prancing around and pleased with himself for being just a tiny bit Mr. Sleazy (just because you can), you will not in that event get any more of my hospital/prison visits to your lonely bloggie home. The charity of some extended further, even to emailing Sinc to permit your return. Probation is the word, Stevie, probation.
Gab is a lady and ladies are never ‘ratbags’. Goodness me, no.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 6:38 pm
Also, CL, it
s nice to see you refer to it as “Aftershave”, rather than your usual “man perfume”.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 6:39 pm
I missed the after shave discussion. Does everyone buy from strawberrynet, or do you have better websites?
harrys on the boat
6 Dec 12 at 6:39 pm
Thanks, Gab. I seem to remember somebody saying Aqua la something or other was good but I couldn’t remember exactly.
Although now that I see the prices of this stuff I might opt for a Rexona gift pack.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 6:44 pm
Who was a several?
I appoint dd as counter for the yeses.
And JC a counter for the NO!!!s.
( put me down as a NO!!!)
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 6:46 pm
Acqua di Gio by Armani is a good one CL, so it might have been that?
harrys on the boat
6 Dec 12 at 6:49 pm
Gee, I dunno, Lizzie. I thought the Atlantic article (yeah, real porno material there) about that African tribe was interesting and amusing (the bit about their very active middle aged sex lives.)
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 6:49 pm
Aqua di Gio by Armani, CL? Armani has aftershave & perfume in this range. (I wear the perfume in summer).
Another aftershve I really like on men is Calvin Klein Obsession.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 6:50 pm
IT
What aftershave do you use after you moisturize.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 6:52 pm
CL, the Bunyip reckons ‘some hot water and a dose of Palmolive’ is all anyone needs in order to scrub up and smell good.
That is the Voice of Experience speaking too.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 6:53 pm
Surely CL is not buying it for himself: the International Roast drinking, Winnie Blue smoking, Carlton Draft drinking middle aged bachelor who thinks men wearing a wedding ring is a sign of poofy weakness? I think it’s a gift for some bloke he suspects is gay.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 6:55 pm
Good point, DD is obviously a yes.
I know of another one too who doesn’t shock me in the least.
That’s two.
Hey Sinc, in the interest of fairness and all, why not give us no’s a chance too.
Why not have a separate thread and let everyone vote on keeping or knee capping the doofus.
I’m thumb down, letting the lions have their fun on a hungry morning at the Colosseum.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 6:57 pm
Hey Step… you realize that if we were back in Roman times and I was in charge of the Colosseum (which of course I would be) I would have fed you to the lions by now. You’re fully aware of that, right?
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:00 pm
I’d feed him to the fishes.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:02 pm
Didn’t get to read it, Stevie. Sorry.
But I did read somewhere that Tony Abbott had read ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’, unlike Julia Gillard. One of the handbag hit squad said she had read it, but implied it did nothing for her. If she actually did read it, take it on my authority: she was lying.
Meanwhile, Tony’s keeping up with the 20 million women in the female Zeitgeist who have also read it. But it’s not the sort of book that guys usually enjoy.
Tony’s taking one for the team. What a guy!!
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 7:02 pm
Just steer clear of the Blue Stratos.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:08 pm
Your a bit obsessed with that series of erotic novels, Lizzie, and I haven’t once called you “sleazy” about that.
But, by all means, please stop talking about them…
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 7:12 pm
You’re, even.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 7:12 pm
2000 years ago, it would have been the height of civilisation and order to feed human rubbish to carnivores in the animal world. Nowadays, in spite of its hatred of the human race, the left’s human detritus is kept alive as an act of compassion.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 7:14 pm
You speak truth to power, Tom.
I would have kept the carnivores staved for a week if Stepford was their meal.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:19 pm
Try Hai Karate CL
Be careful how you use it
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 7:20 pm
2000 years ago, it would have been the height of civilisation and order to feed human rubbish to carnivores in the animal world. Nowadays, in spite of its hatred of the human race, the left’s human detritus is kept alive as an act of
compassionfoolishness.Tom
6 Dec 12 at 7:14 pm
TFTFY
Cato the Elder
6 Dec 12 at 7:21 pm
Hmmmm, no. You’d want them to eat slowly.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:22 pm
We could be back to the good ol’days with stocks. Although I don’t think it was the reason, Citigroup, a big stock % in my portfolio, was up around 7% on the day. The reason ascribed was their announcement of laying off 11,000.
Lefties hated that in the 90′s. Firms made an announcement of big layoffs and the stock would soar.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:24 pm
Good point Sinc… on the subject of carnivores, I’m heading to your old haunt late next week… Seth Africa. Don’t ask.
Do I need to buy a Glock at the airport for protection? Any pointers.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:26 pm
Tabac
lol I didn’t know the base scent comes from tobacco!
No plain packaging here
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 7:27 pm
Probably not. Be alert – there are a lot of people standing around doing nothing. Avoid going out at night. Stay in touristy areas. Avoid Johannesburg as much as possible.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:28 pm
Sinc
I was told there are 16,000 murders a year in your country of birth. I was also told there are 16,000 car fatalities and people drive like nut balls on the highway. It was suggested to me to hire a really big car…. No advice on a gun though.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:28 pm
I don’t think CL is into any of the “Homme di Nanci” stuff, Splat.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:29 pm
Compassion has got a bit out of hand when we let the mentally ill run the government.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 7:29 pm
Just Joh’berg airport and then onto Capetown.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:30 pm
Road rage is common. South Africa has a very high standard for drivers licences – so most people don’t bother getting one.
I wouldn’t recommend driving – many foreigners get killed when they get lost on the freeway and end up where they shouldn’t be.
Be careful when bribing policemen.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:32 pm
Always keep the car locked when driving, JC.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:33 pm
Heh – flight very bumpy this time of year – you fly through the thunderstorms. A lot of fun if you like that sort of thing. Cape Town in much better. If you stay in the Victoria and Albert centre you should be fine.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:33 pm
Alfred not Albert
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:34 pm
Wifey is leaving this weekend and driving herself and a girlfriend out of Capetown to some place. This has me a little worried now. I’m not going to tell her what you said for obvious reasons.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:34 pm
Cape town is a lot safer. But keep car doors locked at all time. And leave any flashy jewelry at home.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:36 pm
Ummmm I was told that by our mutual friend. I freaking hate turbulence.
Is George is one of those areas?
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:36 pm
hah. Don’t own any.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:37 pm
make sure she packs for you before she leaves. We don’t want a repeat panic of the pre-NYC packing.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:37 pm
Yes – if you fly to George fly with South African Airways – they have never crashed into the mountain there.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:37 pm
I should say “never yet”.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:38 pm
Long time since I’ve been to Cape Town. JC, please have a beer for me in every bar around the V & A.
Rob
6 Dec 12 at 7:38 pm
Have you got a gay wedding to go to, JC? Been legal there since 2006 (kinda bizarrely, given the cultural background, I think.)
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 7:39 pm
Sinc
Come with me and ride shot gun.
By the way, in case there was anyone in South Africa reading the Cat during the US election. I freaking love Obama. I was only kidding.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:40 pm
What Sinc said about keeping car doors locked. The wonderful ex-blog South Africa Sucks had many reports of cases where people made the mistake of opening their windows or leaving the doors unlocked.
A friend of mine was over there recently on family business, and she’s a rather unassuming lady. She mentioned in passing how she “did have a scary moment” when she and a friend were driving through town and a fellow outside the car gestured towards her wheel, as if trying to draw her attention to a flat tyre or something.
She got the hell out of Dodge in that situation, and the fellow left behind did not look very happy or friendly after that.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 7:42 pm
My weapons are in my father’s gun safe, but he is Christmassing in the UK with my sister.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:42 pm
Hey! I said it first!
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:43 pm
Gab – yes you did. Very, very good advice.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:45 pm
And Gab.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 7:45 pm
Thank you. That’ll be all.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 7:46 pm
All done Gab. Thanks for asking. Won’t ever go through last time panic packing.
WTF. I’m getting driven to George and Wifey is driving the day after she arrives. This is getting me worried. She’s has lots of common sense, but being a gal, she’s obviously a hammerhead.
No, it’s not a gay wedding, Stepford. And if it were I’d go. That stuff doesn’t worry me as much as it does with you, you pipsqueak. You can marry a baboon for all I care.
…..
On the subject of baboons a dude was telling me they have learnt how to open car door and car windows too. Smart little fuckers.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:46 pm
It is quite far and the trip to SA tiring. So be careful.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 7:50 pm
JC
You may, if schedules collide, catch a Kiwi bashing.
Ya lucky bastard.
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 7:51 pm
Thanks Jump.. but won’t have time.
Google map says 5 hours Cape Town to George. Fme that’s a long way. Should have researched this crap.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 7:53 pm
George is a hell of a hike from CPT – 6-8 hrs, I’d reckon. George has regular SAA flights from JNB. Simpler to fly straight there from JNB.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 7:56 pm
Re baboons and cars, you can see them in action from 5:50 at this Youtube (the show was recently on SBS). The opening few minutes also show them raiding homes.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 7:57 pm
George is a hell of a hike from CPT – 6-8 hrs, I’d reckon. George has regular SAA flights from JNB. Simpler to fly straight there from JNB. (filter doesn’t like my SAA timetable link).
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 7:59 pm
That’s nothing they can also open slush fund accounts and pay brothels with credit cards. Do keep up JC.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 8:00 pm
Got Tom out of the filter – fly rather than drive.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 8:03 pm
Stay away from baboons and monekys anywhere is my opinion. Do not wear sunglasses or hats. Do not carry bags of any sort amnd above all do not feed the little blighters and do not buy food from anyone to feed monkeys or baboons of any sort, anywhere, internationally.
The little bastards are smart and if you dont have food or or a bag, your sunglasses or hat are a good trade to them and they move so much faster than us humanoids could dream of.
Best to have nothing tradeable on you when dealing with monkeys or baboons.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:09 pm
It just occurred to me – why don’t rich home use an electric fence to keep them out. Turns out that some do. The page lists other potential baboon deterrents, most of which don’t work, but there are some odd ideas that have been tried, it seems:
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 8:10 pm
Stop the press.
Wifey is flying from Joh’berg to George. I had this shit all wrong.
I’m getting driven to a place called “Francshook” (pronounce) and meeting her there a week later.
No dramas.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 8:11 pm
In fact, in my experience, best to wind all windows up and stay holed up in the car facing baboons or monkeys.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:11 pm
I can see why your agent booked you to fly to CPT, JC. It’s a weird sched JNB-CPT – no departures after 4pm – too early for arrivals from SYD and PER, so CPT overnight required. However, 3 SAA flights per day CPT-GRJ (45 minutes). Book that.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 8:12 pm
Lol.. Oh yea. Our entire front bench is a baboon colony.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 8:13 pm
Whoever sais this is an eejit.
“Paint one baboon white and other baboons will flee from the area because they are afraid of the white baboon.
And while you are dilly dallying and busying your silly self painting one baboon white the other baboons will have picked your pocket and sunglasses and hat clean into the trees.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:15 pm
It’s a weird sched JNB-
CPTGRJ – no departures after 4pm – too early for arrivals from SYD and PER, so CPT overnight required. However, 3 SAA flights per day CPT-GRJ (45 minutes). May still need planning.Tom
6 Dec 12 at 8:15 pm
To which the Opposition sends in a couple of coiffed androids and a poodle to deal with.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 8:17 pm
Tom
I really dunno how the fuck I got dragged into this freaking trip, but I did. Wifey harassed me for days on end (begged is more accurate) how I have become so boring that the only trips I would ever consider are NYC and a couple of big cities in Europe. I suggested Florida and the Caribbean is fine with me too.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 8:17 pm
I was bitten by a Balinese monkey once.
I came home and the Doctor had kittens when I told him. Potential rabies. I had the treatment (deadset it was purple coloured injections) with a strict instruction “If you at any time have an abhorrance of water contact me IMMEDIATELY.”
He was deadly serious but I think a bit of a panic monger.
Still it’s a good story to share at the pub.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 8:18 pm
Lizzie – then have a soak in an onsen (hot spring) you will have the skin of a 16 year old school girl.
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 8:28 pm
JC
You do know we expect a full comparison between SA and Aust upon your return.
Just the usual stuff.
Personal freedoms, foreign investment guidelines, people you argued with at parties, technological advances, food, services, racism, abortion laws, trade restrictions …etc…
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 8:35 pm
I was in Serth Efrica for a week about six years ago, went to Kruger via Jo’berg – took very bumpy flight from Capetown; do stay at airport hotel, don’t go into town. Then take big landrover to Kruger – that is OK, but saw a carjack happen on the way. Salutory. Capetown – all advice above is to be heeded. A careless friend of mine got mugged there for his wallet. Lucky to be alive, I thought.
Capetown is a very beautiful and historic place, Table Mountain a knockout mountain, Franschoek wineries very pleasant dining etc, and Constantia a good place in Capetown to stay with friends, plus there are some public gardens near there which are rather special too (can’t remember their name).
——————-
Stevie, I don’t read erotica much. I do quite well enough without it. However, Fifty Shades is a social phenomenon, and I am nothing if not social.
Put up with it.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 8:35 pm
DaveF
Tose Balinese monkeys ARE OUT OF CINTROL!! never go to see balnese monkeys on ANY tour that promises “see the monkeys”
The tours have been at thisgame for twenty plus years and its like human victms waking into an ambush by now (conditioned monkeys) every time the tour bus stops (how the balinese must laugh at this but still sell the hapless tourists the bags of peanuts etc).
Ever seem a monlkey take the whole bag of a lady – scrtamble to the top of a tree and throw iut its contents, item by item including sole tampons?
I have – it was pretty funny at the time!!! LOL
It was raining tampons from the top of the rees!!
Poor girl on tour was so embarrassed! I was killing myself laughing!
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:38 pm
gillard has lost it. Going the way of Bob Brown’s extincted speech.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 8:40 pm
Yea, that’s where I’m going.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 8:45 pm
I see Melbourne’s bay beaches have a bit too much muticulti and need a task force. Oh dear
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 8:46 pm
Seems like its travel tales nite, Carpe. Da Hairy Ape and I went to Japan together and did the Onsen thing at Beppi in Kyushu island – the most famous hot springs area, first in a public baths, then at the Sheraton Onsen. You have to strip right off. I went to a sex segregated public one and a private shared one at the hotel with Da Ape. The public one was full of grandmas and schoolgirls and very beautiful young Japanese girls (da Ape panting away at my descriptions) – and me, looking very pink and white and blonde and all eyes upon me as the only European there (I already have good skin, Carpe. One of my assets, got it from my sainted mother). Losing the knickers so publicly is very confronting at first, but seems perfectly natural after a few minutes – everyone does it, complete nudity is the absolute rule.
No soap in any Japanese bath though. A no no. At Onsens you have to sit on a little stool and soap and shower yourself all over with a shower hose with all the other girls, all the private bits too, so that you are squeaky clean before you dare to enter the series of heat graded pools.
Cultural anthropology at its best. Da Ape was most taken by the Japanese beauties in traditional gowns who shovelled hot sand over him in the sand baths too.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 8:47 pm
Bragger JC!
Wish it was me. You are lucky you have wifey to drag you away from NYC and see something different. Stop your whingeing!
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:47 pm
Sheraton was not at Beppi but at Myazaki (think that’s how they spell it) at the end of the island – where surfing is the big deal.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 8:48 pm
As I said upthread, compassion has got a bit out of hand when we let the mentally ill run the government.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 8:49 pm
Hairy Irish just saying: it’s get your own dinner nite, is it?
I am in trouble.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 8:51 pm
Well my incident occurred 20 odd years ago. They were less trained. He thought I had tucker in my pocket and was startled when i pulled my hand out suddenly.
Chomp.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 8:53 pm
Son is in Thailand at the moment with Dad (I couldnt o – working too hard)
Got a loveky photo of son in lostus position getting into the spirit of things in front of an enormous Thai golden buddha..
but he forget one cricial thing. Never point feet towards buddha not even toes whilst sitting cross leggeed. Supreme insult.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:53 pm
Alice, glad your here.
Thoughts?
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 8:56 pm
splellin lost – glasses in bag. I can see and I can type ….noy well actually.
I hate needing specs. I hope you youngsters appreciate your eyesight. It doesnt last forever and glasses are a pain. Really.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 8:56 pm
I wonder what he thinks of Salaman Rushdie’s latest book “Buddha you fat bastard!”
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 8:56 pm
Lizzie:
What were you doing in Beppu and Miyazaki, they are way off the beaten track in Japan.
Even Kyushu is off the track for visitors.
I lived in Fukuoka for 4 years so I know them but they were off the track for me as well.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 8:57 pm
Alice – don’t know what you’re on about. I’ve had to get multi-focals.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 8:59 pm
jumpncar
I have thoughts on that
1. Perturbed by this
“Non-commercial production from agricultural land and businesses by foreign government entities should be undertaken within relevant Australian government foreign aid programs.”
WTF – so we have agricultural land being purchased by foreign entities and retired?? ie not used?? ie non commercial activities on said land?? ie no jobs, no action, nothing?
The way I am reading thisppoint is that we are currently “permitting” Australian agricultural land to be sold for non commercial use to foreigners. Read – turned into something useless like bush?
If we do we are very stupud bastards. More stupid than I even thought possible.
I have only one question – who is getting paid off to make such a bad decision for the Australian people is all I have to say??, Some corrupt individual part of a mcorrupt government?
We have had it as a Nation when this happens under our noses.
Im still reading your link Jumnpncar but its not making me feel well so far…
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:07 pm
Get a seeing eye dog Alice, preferably one that has an ecconomics degree so they can translate your theories into rational debate.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 9:09 pm
JC, Franschoek is a beautiful place, as is the whole Western Cape. I’ll be buggered I’d drive there from Jo’burg though. Fly from there to Cape Town and drive from there — much shorter. We have an office in Jo’burg and there is no way I would get myself around there without a local to ride shotgun.
But anyway, make sure you get to Stellenbosch and Paarl as well. Fantastic food, wine and scenery. I’d go back in a heart beat.
tbh
6 Dec 12 at 9:12 pm
This point is interesting too Jumpncar
“According to the report, the committee heard evidence during its inquiry that there might be tax incentives or loopholes that benefitted foreign investors over Australian investors in the agriculture industry.”
fastest way I know to strip our actual agricultural production and jobs.
IMHO Heffernan is right.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:13 pm
I’m not whining Alice. I don’t do whining.
I’m running a small business at the moment and really like it as I’m as busy as hell all day. I’m trying to get it ready for sale and buffering it up. So the trip comes at the wrong time for me.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:13 pm
I’m postponing the optometrist. I don’t want bifocals.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 9:14 pm
Actually, Splat, seeing-eye dogs are haram. She’d be better off with a seeing-eye horse or Balinese monkey.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 9:15 pm
Listen Splato
losing one eyesight does not ipso facto translate into losing one;e brain whn it comes to economics and politics.
On that I see more clearly than you youngsters because you havent been around as long as me and havent learn to discern fact from bullshit yet – but you will – i promise you that.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:16 pm
Um yeah sure Alice.
Foreign investors are going to buy up a significant proportion of arable land and do nothing with it.
FFS land banking is a shaky concept as it is, and they’re going to ignore temporary water rights or agistment?
Any decent land with appreciating capital values will have the capacity to carry an increased amount of stock or crops. Which requires active management, or rest as a last option – if the land needs it and farmers would do it anyway. If there is capital appreciation then it represents an increase in potential output.
Stick to your knitting you old deluded crackpot.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:16 pm
Bullshit.
I don’t have to through the FIRB to buy a farm here.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:18 pm
and Splato – you will eventually turn given enough crap from both sides (thats a good thing when it happens – it makes you think)
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:18 pm
I can’t wait until it happens to you.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:19 pm
Butt out Dot.
I was talking to Jumpncar and you are a right wing dummy with no respect for national party views.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:19 pm
No Alice, start making sense.
The National Party is perhaps the most libertarian and pro free trade (this should tell you something, fuckwit) out of the major parties, Heffernan is a loose cannon and a pariah in his own Liberal party. He has actually ran against the Nationals.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:21 pm
I was the same – but my arms were getting too short for reading.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 9:22 pm
And Dot Id like to know what the fuck you would know about people who live in the country and produce in the country and what their concerns are?
You know jack shit boy except what you read in god knows what liberal digest?
You get in here and aggressively pursue your aggresive views and you have no toleraace of anything different to your views (except for the fact its supposed to be am liberal national coalition). So fuck off. You cant think outside a square.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:23 pm
If Alice doesn’t respect the others here enough to fucking put on her glasses (or sober up…?) so that she can type an easy-to-read legible sentence, I don’t have time to try and decipher her lazy ill-thought-out stream-of-consciousness spews either.
She expects others to work three times as hard to make sense of the typo-strewn messes she throws up here yet can’t even be bothered to put on a pair of specs?
Yeah, no. You’re not that good, lady.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 9:24 pm
Short arms huh Sinc? Well you are a evil gnome with good taste in ties
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 9:25 pm
How can arms get too short for reading LOL??
That was funny Sinc.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:25 pm
sdog – go eat your tinned dog food.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:26 pm
I’m not there yet, Sinc. It’s taken a few years to get to here, so I’m hoping it’ll take a few more.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 9:26 pm
I think this is the offending section.
Not for profit activities. So a foreign firm sets up an NGO and buys land. Income is not taxable as it’s a charity. And they eventually wind it up and whip the money out to their sister charity in Hong Kong or where ever. Nice idea.
Doubt its practical.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 9:27 pm
Tinned dog food!!! Oh no them’s fighting words
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 9:28 pm
You’ve claimed to have a college-aged son, lady. You’re not THAT old.
My Mom is in her 70s, wear specs for reading, and uses the internet… and she would die before she’d subject strangers to messy un-proofed spews as you do.
Have some dignity for yourself and some respect for others, FFS.
sdog
6 Dec 12 at 9:29 pm
nilk – it happened very quickly; over a period of months. Very upsetting. I’m officially an old fart.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 9:29 pm
I dont have to find my specs sdog if I dont want to.
I already correct a lot of my own errors and thats all Im willing to do. Its freedom of spelling and glasses choice.
So there.
So go eat dog food.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:29 pm
More than you, shithead.
I currently don’t subscribe to any publication.
Present some evidence Alice. You feel threatened by me saying your idea is not a sound business practice.
Which makes me doubt you came 11th out of a graduating year of 3000 commerce students from an Australian university.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:29 pm
Don’t be an idiot. You no longer see that specs are bi-focal.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:31 pm
how can ones arms get shorter in old age??. That is ridiculous LOL!! I thought it was the legs that got shorter first?
Thats what happened to my husband. He shrank vertically.
(I call him gnomie now).
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:32 pm
eggsactly. You lost your brain ages ago. In fact you never had one.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:33 pm
Time value of money suggests this is a dopey concept and the Senators who wrote about it haven’t managed so much as a cricket club budget.
Sweet baby Jesus what an embarrassment.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:34 pm
Or possibly he’s cowering when he sees you.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:34 pm
Aw, Sinc, that sucks. I do find if I’ve spent an extended amount of time away from the computer that my eyes seem to be stronger and I don’t use the specs as much, but given that I slave over a hot pc during the day and tend to have one on here at night, then I may possibly be doomed.
I have thought about lasik or some variation. The jury’s out on that one – I don’t know that I want someone slicing up my eyeballs.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 9:35 pm
You are swearing Dot. Its a sign you are losing it.
Of course if it is me who is swearing it is a sign of deep clarity of perception.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:35 pm
Is it Phil’s sister Joe?
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 9:35 pm
Alice – I was holding stuff further and further away to read it, until I couldn’t extend my arms further. Mrs D said I was getting blind, but I knew my arms were shrinking.
Just like my suits shrink at the dry-cleaners.
Sinclair Davidson
6 Dec 12 at 9:35 pm
This is what I’d be like if I was a greenie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdwC4vhc594
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:36 pm
“Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons.”
“The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.”
“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”
—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
Mk50 of Brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 9:36 pm
You cannot produce an argument other than you are a bucket mouthed, ratchet jawed buffoon without the mental capacity to realise the Nats are the most pro free trade out of the top 3/4 political parties in Australia.
Shut up and stick to creating your Walter Mitty existence away from the rest of us.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:38 pm
What a stupid long winded idea. First off the NGO has to be recognized here by the ATO. Secondly farms don’t make lots of money anyway so it would hardly be breaking the bank.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:38 pm
Having been wearing glasses for over 2 decades now, I’m well aware of the advances in bifocal/multifocal viewing equipment.
It’s psychological – the thought of wearing bifocals makes me feel like I’ll really be old* then. Like Since saying he’s officially an old fart.
*I’m technically middle-aged atm.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 9:39 pm
Thread winner.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 9:40 pm
No, It’s Bird and Phil’s bastard child lookalike. Alice would be their child if they mated.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:40 pm
JC
Gnomie loves me and I love gnomie. No-one is cowering. He holds his own as do I and no-one is going anywhere here.
Gnomie is funny and I love him madly still.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:40 pm
Clearly I’m wrong because I’m swearing.
You fucking child. Up your clonazepam and thorazine and piss off.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:41 pm
I know
, we have a house to the north west of Kobe up near Ai onsen. The In-laws are south west of kobe (the part that never got bombed in WWII or ruined in the 95 earthquake), which was too expensive for us.
I haven’t gone south to Kyushu but i would like to see the Hakata toumyou lantern festival.
If you get the chance see Kyoto in the Spring, in the winter stay away from the Nagano valley (Hakuba, Goryu & Happo One)and head up to Mountain National Park, it is magic and you can stay at small inns.
Don’t drive because the police will pull you over if they see plates from another prefecture.
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 9:43 pm
Chuck Norris once killed two stones with one bird.
And Alice, just for me, can you please wear your glasses.
Think of it as using a face shield/helmet when you weld.
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 9:43 pm
Dotty
You nwill have to avoid the imaginative insults if people are to take you seriously in both polite and impolite society…
I cannot help but bait you Dotty but really Im laughing at you in my mind.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:44 pm
I posited the NGO idea as to the thinking of the committee.
I reckon you could get it registered if it was an aborigine employment project…with other interests in other countries which may need funding on an as needs basis…
Greenpeace is a charity here that sends due back to Head Office in Switzerland.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 9:45 pm
We’re all laughing at your made up resume, you living, breathing joke.
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:46 pm
Only for you Jumpncar and only because you asked nicely, will I wear my glasses.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:46 pm
Ok Joe that explains alot
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 9:47 pm
Oh okay
But of course you could. Original owners are allowed to do anything they wish.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 9:50 pm
First Nations please.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 9:51 pm
I like the Japanese Bathhouse here in Melb. I’ve never been to Japan, so this is as close as I can get, and it’s great.
My christmas present to myself is a visit in the New Year.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 9:52 pm
Listen Dot – it was you that made up my resume. I never gave you my resume and as I last recall you were busy making up what I didnt do on the resume I have which says I did do it.
So I imagine someone on a blog knows my life better than my own real CV huh? Really Dot?
Its my CV and it gets me jobs. Who are you except a blog persona who knows nothing about me or my resume bt insists on trying to prove my life wrong.
You are a silly fool who belongs in some sort of serial killer sunday forensic team on TV where someone gives you real evidence to dig up instead of letting you loose on Sundays to make up the “evidence according to Dot” in Sinc’s Blog.
Give it up you silly boy.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:53 pm
Also the Greenpeace vessels antifouling paint contains Diuron, the same chemical their spewing about being it the water.
Scum.
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 9:55 pm
Oh dear God. Most joyless, politically correct
Christmasfestive season card EVAH!!papachango
6 Dec 12 at 9:55 pm
I thought Bunyip was here referring to his (understandable) semi-Napoleonic bedtime preference for women – au natural – not his own regime.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 9:56 pm
Any way Id much rather talk about how Sincs arms shrunk!thats the funniest thing Ive heard all night! The rest is just depressing economics.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 9:56 pm
Yeah sure Alice. 11th in a year of 3000 commerce undergrads with varying majors from a Sydney based university in the late 1980s or early 1990s.
Lulz
.
6 Dec 12 at 9:57 pm
nilk the bath houses are a bit special in Japan.
Outdoors in the snow is pretty special.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 9:57 pm
Alice
Thanks, I always enjoy your stuff, when i can read it.
jumpnmcar
6 Dec 12 at 9:58 pm
Ahahahahahaha.
You can take the girl out of Methodist Ladies College but you can’t take Methodist Ladies College out of the girl.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 9:59 pm
Dear Catallaxians,
Suugestion – ignore SfB. Like giving oxygen to a fire, s/he/it thrives on your abuse. STOP IT!! Just. Don’t. Respond. Reply. Comment. Reference. Anything. – s/he/it says.
FFS.
Ever seen a screaming child in the supermarket and the parent walk away, ignoring the petulant brat?
It works.
So, just ignore SfB. There is no debating, logic, facts or common sense with s/he/it. Venting and abusing just gets its rocks off.
Ignore and move on.
pete m
6 Dec 12 at 9:59 pm
Papa you mean bastard enough of that sort of filth it’s close to Christmas you know
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 9:59 pm
Whats sfb said ? didnt even notice sfb here tonight
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 10:00 pm
dates wrong Dot – 1996 grad here. Im probably younger than you pretend phd student who is really about 40 if I have my dates right??.
How old are you Dot?
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 10:02 pm
Nilk – give Lady Jugs and i a yell, Kobe is a great town and in the harbour district the black buns with red bean paste are to die for.
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:04 pm
papachango
6 Dec 12 at 10:05 pm
But it has to.
Pathological.
All these lobby groups that want to STOP things are pathological.
OK, so the Greens objection was to agricultural uses. I wasn’t aware that was the case.
Still pathological.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 10:06 pm
Don’t do it again.
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 10:07 pm
First warning papa
Tal
6 Dec 12 at 10:08 pm
btw Dot – this Mummy had pregnacy to deal with in lectures – couldnt shut the lecture table over my tummy. Baby came in sling to library multiple times….
You cant pick any one Dot because you made horredous assumptions along the way without any evidence (eg you assumed graduation at 23, children after graduation etc – your hypothesis on my life is littered with assumptions, not facts or evidence and some pretty cliched assumptions at that – and you call yourself a student of economics. Well I am a teacher of economics and you need to lift your powers of observation and inquiry above the level of making base assumptions.
Fallcy of composition in reverse Dot??. What applies mostly to the whole does not necessarily apply to the part or individual.
Alice
6 Dec 12 at 10:10 pm
x2. Especially so near bedtime. Nightmare material.
Tom
6 Dec 12 at 10:10 pm
No fuckwit Alice, and no Sydney based university has ever had a graduating year with 3000 commerce students in it.
Your story is falling apart.
You said you got married and had your children after you finished university study.
Your university aged children would at a max be doing Year 10 right now.
You are so full of shit you old windbag it isn’t funny.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:11 pm
alrighty then… how’s this? Less PC, but more Botox and spray-on hair
papachango
6 Dec 12 at 10:12 pm
Carpe, I meant to the Melbourne one, not Japan, alas. The offspring is changing schools, so fees take precedence, along with the visits to the orthodontist and other fun things.
I’ve heard enough tales from friends who have been to the bathhouses in Japan – including outdoors ones – to have them on my wishlist. A good friend of mine is married to a Japanese woman. She is just awesome.
nilk
6 Dec 12 at 10:13 pm
No.
Previously you said you got married and had kids after you worked full time AND did uni full time and inferred by your children’s age this was by the early 1990s.
Your “life” is a sham. You have created it because you are some backwoods hick who is trying to make out they are an economics professor to argue from authority for the most counterproductive and retarding policies we could choose from, but you like the sound of them.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:14 pm
Would it be unfair of me to judge Nicola Roxons staff on appearance?
No, I thought not.
From rear left to right: Pillow Biter, Token, Militant Feminist
Front L to R: Middle Aged with Huge Glasses Asian Token, Greasy Haired Unemployable, Adult Woman with Oddly Red Face and a Hostage Expression
Jeremy was absent.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 10:14 pm
Why?
Whats Nancy Pelosi up to now?
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:15 pm
Yoohoo – pete M – here I am. Over here. Waiting to be ignored.
Meanwhile, I note:
What’s this? The Gillard minority government making progress with a potentially hostile government over an important reform? Looks like a Christmas “win” to me.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 10:15 pm
Your wish is my commmand.
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:17 pm
You’d consider being given a pillow to bite a “win”.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:17 pm
It’s not a “reform” dickhead. It’s another entitlement spendathon.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 10:17 pm
I really don’t know what Fatty O’Barrel is thinking. Maybe he wants the whole disability mess passed onto the Commonwealth.
Sure, they have pu-lenty of money.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 10:22 pm
Dame Elizabeth’s various encomiums have included lots of footage of the Murdoch’s HQ, Cruden Farm. Anyone been there? Looks really nice.
We don’t seem to have the historical homes of the wealthy and prominent in Australia – as they do in the US. I’ve always thought the Kennedys’ Hyannisport ‘compound’ was pretty lovely too.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 10:23 pm
This is the source for my takedown of the appearances of Nicola Roxon’s staff.
papachangos link from above.
Jeremy was absent.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 10:26 pm
Here is another one of Alice’s bizzare fabrications busted: back in 2010 on Qwiggern’s blog she said she had been working in universities for almost two decades and inferred she had a full time position since 1995.
Just a few moments ago she said she graduated undergraduate commerce in 1996.
Remember too she has claimed she had kids after graduation (whilst working and studying full time and coming “11th out of 3000 commerce students”) but to fit her child being 20 + she now reckons she was pregnant at uni. Her new graduation myth sees her child actually being too young for even senior High school.
Please Alice. Just come clean and admit your whole resume is made up bupkis. Admit you made it up to argue from authority for your backwards and job destroying ideas on economics.
.
6 Dec 12 at 10:27 pm
CL
From what I read once, She’s basically lived there since she was married. She was really a country girl.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 10:28 pm
Kevin Rudd’s childhood car is still able to be visited in a field near Nambour.
(Quick, slap me in the face, someone, for making a Catallaxy sympatico comment.)
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 10:30 pm
Noticably absent from Rosa Kleb’s festering card was poor Jeremy? Maybe he had the good sense to steer clear of getting his picture taken with other Gellibrand sheltered workshop workers.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 10:32 pm
Stop groveling Stepford. Very few people here like you.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 10:32 pm
I’ve only been to two, both were natural hot springs with segregated bathing. I’m not so comfortable with mixed bathing, although Lady Jugs and the 2 youngest of our brood have done that it is a bit too ‘uncomfortable’ for my tastes.
(that just sounds creepy)
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:32 pm
CL:
I think there are some in the Southern Highlands area of NSW and probably in VIC and SA.
I’d say its an old school agricultural wealth trickle down.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 10:34 pm
With the kids? Fucking A it does.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 10:36 pm
Never did a mixed one in Japan. It wasn’t on the menu anywhere I went.
I doubt my girl would have been much interested either.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 10:36 pm
Re grand manors – the Americans have Washington’s Vernon Hill, Jefferson’s Monticello, Teddy Roosevelt’s Oyster Bay, the Kennedy Compound, the Bush’s Kennebunkport. It was kinda sad and pathetic how John Edwards tried to join the beautiful people in this respect. Didn’t quite make it, though, poor old Silky Pony.
Hey, we have Wilso and Julia’s Fitzroy bungalow. That’s historical. If you look carefully, you can still see Bill the Greek’s buttock prints on one of the cement fences.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 10:36 pm
I forgot to take my shoes off at one onsen in Tokyo. They went absolutely nuts at me yelling in Japanese (usually they’re so incredibly polite it freaked me out)… they really have a thing about that.
It was my mistake, but I’d been used to taking my cues from the racks of shoes by entrance doors – this place was fancier and had little hidden shoe lockers
papachango
6 Dec 12 at 10:41 pm
It’s mixed bathing in a fucking hot spring, it is quite common.
It is people just soaking in a fucking giant hot tub bigger than your house, they have towels to keep their modesty above the water line. My point was i was not comfortable with it. My Japanese wife took our 2 youngest children to one, i just found the whole idea not to my tastes.
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:41 pm
Splat 3:29
LOL.
Exactly what I thought. Oh dear.
kae
6 Dec 12 at 10:42 pm
It’s certainly up there with Cruden farm.
Tourist bus..
” Here we have Cruden farm, home to Elizabeth Murdoch one of Australia’s great philanthropists. Next up we’re heading straight to Kerr Street Fitzroy, where we’ll see the house the Prime Minister commonly known as the Lying Slapper bid for with her married boyfriend using stolen union slush funds”.
We’ve come a long way.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 10:47 pm
Boy, if you think the Oscars are bad, you ought to be watching the European Film Awards on SBS2 right now.
steve from brisbane
6 Dec 12 at 10:51 pm
where she happily entertained men of dubious charachter whilst cuckolding their WIVES and considering them as prostitutes. (my add on)
Our TLS – a lady of negotiable virtue.
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:52 pm
I like off the track. Da Ape had business in the area and we were duchessed off our feet. Wagyu restaurants with chefs performing wonders in front of our eyes, high floor on the Sheraton, trip to the mountain spas, a whole side of Japan I had not experienced in the rural countryside, and a visit to a cave where the imagined breasts of a female Shinto deity hung from the roof and had nurtured souls for thousands of years. We threw Shinto clay fortune balls into rock basins (an age-old ritual) found in the ocean rocks of the shrine and wished our hearts out along with all the other worshippers.
I have been to Japan five times, mostly with Da Hairy Irish. Miajima island (Red Tori Gate of Japan found here) during full-on Sakura (Cherry Blossom time) was a perfect delight. Stayed in a very traditional Minshuku hostel, with charming tea ceremony welcome, and futon mattress plus bag of hard peas for my head on a little black stand and special row of shoes outside it for use inside the shared toilet. Tiny, tiny, tiny make-up table for da lady the only furniture in the tatami-matted room. Implements hanging on the walls in the bathhouse were completely beyond our ken.
Also Shinkaju Golden Temple in Kyoto was exquisite. Also the Buddhas at Sanjunsanjenko (all spelling from memory, Carpe, so may be wrong) as well as Roanji, da Hairy Ape’s favourite for contemplation.
Japanese culture is so refined, ancient and special. It slows you up and makes you think. Zen.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 10:52 pm
This could create a full time job for someone nailing up those heritage notice plates with the words JE Gillard slept here, and here, and here……..
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 10:53 pm
I don’t mind, it makes me smile, and at the end of January it will be home. (again)
Carpe Jugulum
6 Dec 12 at 10:56 pm
QOTD
Rudiau
6 Dec 12 at 10:58 pm
hahahahaha
It would send the copper price to the sky. Of course you wouldn’t use cooper though.
JC
6 Dec 12 at 10:58 pm
Carpe, even more off the beaten track was Takamatsu on the island of Shikoku where we saw the gatherings of old people in the park out admiring the first blossom of the plum emerging; similar to Sakura (it was snowing gently at the time). Lovely.
Then we stayed in a ‘Love Hotel’ nearby.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 10:58 pm
Dave F.
“I really don’t know what Fatty O’Barrel is thinking. Maybe he wants the whole disability mess passed onto the Commonwealth.
Sure, they have pu-lenty of money.”
——————-
I was around when the last Commonwealth/State Disability Agreement was negotiated in the 1990s (in NSW). The dickheads in NSW were preening, while being royally screwed by the Commonwealth. Be assured that this round is no different.
The trouble is, a corollary of the “never get between a Premier and a bucket of money” maxim is that they keep giving away bits of State autonomy in the long term for a bucket of money that will hopefully last till the next election.
johanna
6 Dec 12 at 11:06 pm
Here’s a book that Shagger intends to put under his Christmas tree for his children.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 11:06 pm
TOTD
Thieved from EBL
Rudiau
6 Dec 12 at 11:13 pm
“I really don’t know what Fatty O’Barrel is thinking.”
There is already talk the rush is on. Interstate disabled people will surge into NSW to get a piece of the trial.
Barry’s fired the gun, now watch them come.
Splatacrobat
6 Dec 12 at 11:17 pm
The NDIS isn’t happening until 2016. Or has something changed?
Gab
6 Dec 12 at 11:23 pm
Its only the Hunter Valley so far but I suppose if you’re on the disability it might be worth thinking of moving.
Maitland rents are ok. Newcastle less so.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 11:24 pm
Big Ben this here’s a Wheelchair-bound Duck, looks like we got ourselves a CONVOY.
C.L.
6 Dec 12 at 11:24 pm
Not if you’re clearly visitors from another planet (Hairy Ape driving with intent) and in a hire car. We drove through every expressway tunnel from Osaka to Myazaki and on quite a few other types of roads via Shikoku to Beppu (on car ferry), with no problems at all. I took the wheel a few times too, and I am dangerously adventurous in foreign climes but was never stopped either.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 11:25 pm
And Lizzie weren’t the tolls an eye opener if you came that far.
Brutal. Absolutely brutal.
DaveF
6 Dec 12 at 11:30 pm
What Fatty doesn’t understand is that the Commonwealth doesn’t actually deliver services. States/Territories do. So, whenever things go wrong, or expectations are not met, guess who will be blamed?
Bjelke-Petersen, who had many and various faults, nevertheless understood how this works. He actually refused to take Commonwealth money in the 1970s, because of the attached strings.
State Premiers are just whores, and the track they are on leads to where Tasmania is now. With luck, they might have some control over garbage collection in 20 years. Everything else will be trumped by some ‘agreement’ a forgotten Premier signed because someone tucked a few dollars into their garter.
johanna
6 Dec 12 at 11:44 pm
You bet. Those tolls were killers. And you can’t avoid them, because otherwise you’re down off the mountain freeway spine and in amongst the thick and relentless coastal traffic roads.
Tax deductable tolls? I said to da Ape.
In your dreams, Lizzie, he replies.
Such a strong sense of probity. Lucky he earns enough for the cost not to matter much. Go out and spend, Lizzie, he tells me now, especially since taking up his new job.
So my new Audi is on order!
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
6 Dec 12 at 11:46 pm
If you’re about, Wreckage, a response I just put in the “make an offer” fred:
‘The people whose wallets will be drained in the new war on “the rich” are high-earning, but hardly plutocratic professionals like engineers, doctors, lawyers, small business owners and the like. Once seen as the bastion of the middle class, and exemplars of upward mobility, these people are emerging as the modern day “kulaks,” the affluent peasants ruthlessly targeted by Stalin in the early 1930s.’
The Revolt of the Kulaks has begun.
Let it burn.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 12:05 am
Cut&Paste End of the World edition, including:
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 12:12 am
Yep, the super-mega-rich are fairly unobtrusive and live very much within their own largely unseen worlds (if they are not the Royals or Celebs of Hello! Magazine). They are also not for bleeding very much. Everyone knows that.
Hard-working people like da Hairy Irish Ape, who are or have been high earners paying a lot of tax already and yet making sensible investments and building up productive enterprises, will be the ones bled dry by the new Commos.
No wonder he says to spend it. Why wait for the barbarians to arrive at the gates?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 12:22 am
Strictly, cuckolding is gender specific. You would cuckold a husband but cucquean a wife. The Red Dalek’s speciality it would seem.
Cold-Hands
7 Dec 12 at 12:24 am
I wonder if Mike Kelly ever steps back and looks at his life, and wonders how it came to this….
entropy
7 Dec 12 at 12:37 am
Well, the eat-the-rich mob are certainly not doing anything to incentivize saving it. Or earning more of it than you actually need at the moment.
Eat-The-Rich, meet Starve-The-Beast.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 1:08 am
Gawd! It’s summer! I just checked the TV guide, and the tennis is on in Melbourne.
It was almost 0 degrees C here last night (Canberra), so I did wonder if Al Gore was visiting.
Not a lot of cicadas so far, but the first Christmas beetle did bash the kitchen window the other night.
The northern hemisphere cultural commissars can stick their Christmas traditions where the sun don’t shine. Cicadas, Test cricket, seafood and potato salad on the day – reindeer schmeindeer.
johanna
7 Dec 12 at 1:15 am
He was a Colonel, right.
Queanbyan.
Most marginal seat in the country.
He chose the wrong party.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 1:18 am
Eden-Monaro rather
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 1:20 am
so cold in canberra?
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 1:22 am
Well, here it is after 1.30am and I’ve been catching up by reading this Forum while waiting for things to print. I see there are current references to Japan and South Africa and previous night’s references to France and Europe, Mt Everest and even a passing mention of Chile and Goa. And what, by coincidence while discovering these foreign matters, has been my album of choice for tonight’s background music?
Foreigner! The Platinum Collection.
As Lacombe said in ‘Close Encounters of the Third Kind’ – “Zis means sumsing.”
Septimus
7 Dec 12 at 1:41 am
Could Mike Kelly have sounded more stupid?
dover_beach
7 Dec 12 at 2:00 am
Look what they make you give, Mike.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 2:04 am
Sep – the crowd in Doha would agree that it’s Urgent.
I admire your voracity, but sometimes wonder about your discrimination. However, any comments on Mancini (as raised a few days ago)?
johanna
7 Dec 12 at 2:15 am
David Marr.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 2:49 am
Dsavid Marr= cock
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 2:51 am
Under Finklestein, a government bureacracy of leftist academics with powers to threaten and gaol editors would decide the “standards of reporting” – a major advance for the left in enforcing coverage of issues on the left’s terms that would signal the death of independent public interest reporting.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 4:01 am
Queue-jumpers celebrate a victory as illegals overwhelm the system:
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 4:59 am
Potemkin’s Village
In politics, stupidity is… here
Grigory Potemkin
7 Dec 12 at 5:24 am
Hey, nice.
Go the inherently misogynistic abortion-industrial complex!
[more]
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 5:30 am
Florida, again. But this time I’m not gently mocking. I’m furious.
I hope to hell there’s a reasonable explanation here. Otherwise someone needs to end up in prison.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 6:36 am
Mike’s been to the Bill Shorten school of masochistic sycophancy.
“I Agree With PM, But I Don’t Know What She Said”
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 7:30 am
He was a Labor lawyer first, big surprise that he emerged as a critic of the Howard govt, the military uniform looked good on lateline.
Rob
7 Dec 12 at 7:35 am
The bell weather seat just dropped a clanger
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 7:43 am
That’s an horrific story, Spot. No one being held responsible for the child’s death, no one taking responsibility. And all down to cost – except it would have cost a lot less had overnight home care been provided as ordered by the court. Guaranteed this story would have been widely reported in the MSM back in 2011 had the family been African American.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 7:50 am
Surprise, surprise: productivity is in the toilet and days lost to strikes are at an eight-year high:
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 8:25 am
When a transcript becomes available for this morning’s interview between Fran (I’m an activist) Kelly and Barry O’Farrell on the (unfortunately) nationally broadcast RN Breakfast program, her level of delusion will be revealed. Quoting the UN and Ban Ki Moon about the end of the world is nigh, FFS.
AM then did a follow up with Kiribas “having strong voice” because they are about to sink below the waves. Our National Broadcaster is a feathered nest of dangerous featherbrained warbling frootloops.
blogstrop
7 Dec 12 at 8:29 am
Thats code for it only peaks when we can’t get anymore out of the trough.
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 8:33 am
Unfriggingbelievable…
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 8:34 am
Climate doomsayers foiled again.
Himalayan glaciers grow back.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 8:34 am
Well, he’s nothing if not predictable…
And at that point, I stopped reading.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 8:39 am
When Labor came to power in late 2007 we were at the fewest days lost to industrial action since 1913. Just sayin’.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 8:48 am
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 8:48 am
Middle-eastern gangs claiming they act in line with religious schisms are running protection rackets in Sydney’s south-west: cultural heritage rules, OK?
As you say Rabz – unbelievable what is happening there.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 8:58 am
I’ve worn glasses since I was 26, and been in bifocals (but the ones without the visible line in them) since about 2000.
I appreciate being able to see. Nilk, get it done (the glasses thing), all will become clearer!!
Dad always said the worst thing about getting older was that your arms got shorter.
kae
7 Dec 12 at 9:00 am
I love this sentence. It has everything: arrogance, a non-sequitur imputations of evil.
Alice you’re a gem. You make no real sense. Your utterances are an admixture of bluster and invective, with a bit of useless biographical information. Keep it up. I like a laugh.
Rococo Liberal
7 Dec 12 at 9:02 am
Apparently they’re blaming the state Liberal governments. All their fault, doncha know.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 9:02 am
Pizza
The biggest problem with the pizza chains is that they are all involved in a race to the bottom in terms of the cost of ingredients. When Pizza Hut had the market to themselves, pizza was quite expensive, and you ate it in a restaurant sitting at a table. Home delivery was rare.
Then the other chains moved in, and started competing on price. That was their main differentiator. Pizza Hut saw them eating its lunch, so the restaurants all got dropped and pick up or home delivery became the norm.
Most Pizza Hut stores are now a hole in the wall without even a place for customers to sit as they wait for their pizza. Huge efforts have gone into cutting the price of ingredients, and cutting the cost of taking your order. Ever wondered why they want you to order over the internet? Taking an order over the phone can be quite expensive.
Every possible cost has been removed from the supply chain, and as far as I am concerned, taste went out the window when costs were slashed to compete with Eagle Boys and Dominos.
With pizza, you get what you pay for. Pay peanuts, and expect to get monkey sh*t.
boy on a bike
7 Dec 12 at 9:02 am
Those pesky glaciers, Gab. That’s the second time they’ve caused trouble for IPCC types. Remember the egg on faces when the made-up ‘gone by 2035′ figure was shown to be a mere figment of some greenie’s imagination, and not a refereed article at all.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 9:03 am
Yes, Lizzie and incredibly depressing at that. My dad had his general practice in Bankstown when I was growing up and I knew the area very well. Two of my best mates’ now very aged parents still live there. My sister used to teach at Benilde back in the eighties and her horror stories about the behaviour of the local arab arseholes was enlightening, to say the least.
The transformation of the area (and not in a good way) in the last few decades almost defies description.
That it’s an absolute damning indictment of the f*cking labor party goes without saying. That loathsome prick keating should be forced to live there.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:05 am
Ain’t it grand how they bring all their factional fighting here despite claiming that they wanted to escape such things in the bog hole from whence they came. Of course, this is just the new multi-culti fabric of our diverse society. Look at England – that’s our future. Get used to it.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 9:07 am
sdog, specialist pizza shops are opening now in the major cities (there’s a great one at Kings Cross in Sydney), where you get proper ingredients (fresh basil and tomato, fetta or cream cheese, decent salamis etc), on well-prepared crust. Not cheap, but they save nights like last night when I hadn’t started dinner before 9pm and suffered a Hungry Hairy Irish Ape for my sins.
HHIA’s are difficult to manage and best taken at the flood before such difficulties arise. They are good then.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 9:13 am
Bbbbbust Gab…
I am sure that they will cheer up if someone sends them money. After all, that nice mr Gore is down to his last billion dollars, poor chap. Just look at the hovel he is forced to reside in, in california. And his nashville hovel is no better!
So c’mon Cat members of the gullibilitariat! Cough up. Monty, SfB etc, get cracking. The most poverty-stricken seems to be poor flannery. Why, he’s down to earning a pitiful $500,000 a year.
Send the poor devil your savings immediately.
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:15 am
Yes, my sister has similar stories of life around Auburn in Sydney’s middle western ring, where she worked for a while. Being pushed off the pavement when in the way of bearded Muslim males is one of them.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 9:24 am
Why?
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 9:27 am
Remember the 2020 Summit?
It’s website is no more.
Gone to wherever dopey political ideas end up. The Multifunction Polis will be there.
What else?
What is headed there? The Asian Century must be a prime candidate.
ken n
7 Dec 12 at 9:30 am
For your consideration:
Just got an electricity bill: $334. This is for 2 adults and 2 primary school kids. We use an electric oven (my wife uses it a lot, actually) but a gas stove top, for which one 9lt refill costs about $27 and lasts easily 2 months. So for total energy cost, add another $40 or so.
This does not seem very expensive to me. As mentioned before, I think solar hot water helps a lot with minimising the bill. For those houses which I see that have both solar PV and solar hot water, I assume that their quarterly bill is more modest than mine.
People will forget about the initial investment cost after a little while, and just be happy with small quarterly bills.
This is why I think the carbon tax scare campaign will count for next to nothing by the time of the next election.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:33 am
She supplies the information about herself then calls it an assumption.
What an arseclown.
.
7 Dec 12 at 9:35 am
Holy shit that book must be confronting for kids. But I assume they understand how long six years is.
.
7 Dec 12 at 9:36 am
How long before Jews start getting rounded up again? In Australia?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/academic-defends-stance-on-israel/story-e6frgcjx-1226531652010
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 9:40 am
SofB,
Even then you are getting ripped off for the 9Kg Gas refill. $22 here in SA at one of the big stores
Mike of Marion
7 Dec 12 at 9:42 am
Gab starts every day with 6 tablespoons of hyperbowl in her coffee.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:42 am
Maybe gas is more expensive in Qld than SA? There are gasfields down your way, aren’t there?
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:44 am
That’s what the wayback machine is for.
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.australia2020.gov.au/
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 9:45 am
I think it is a pisser the Republic of Western Australia has their own immigration dept.
http://www.migration.wa.gov.au/Working/Economy/Pages/WAEconomyAndStatistics.aspx
.
7 Dec 12 at 9:47 am
johanna @ 2.15am
Doha – as mentioned upthread was mostly about a westerner wearing the local clothing style there. In a sense, about a stranger in a foreign land. So, my choice of music last night might not have been just happenstance. Perhaps (cue spooky music) there was something subliminal that drew me to the Foreigner album
Mancini – as I recall, you mentioned more than a few days ago (it was actually on an earlier Forum back in November). I did reply to you that my only Mancini CD is the Romantic Movie Themes album, played by him and his orchestra but including only a one-track medley of his own music – the other 19 tracks being movie themes composed by others. Still easy listening though
Septimus
7 Dec 12 at 9:49 am
Rabz, in Lebanon there’s a habit of intercommunal violence sometimes called night hunting. This is where a singleton or at most a very small (2-3) group of blood relatives decide to politely inform the local weirdbeards that their behaviour requires adjustment.
The adjustment is normally 7.62mm and delivered at night from 150-200m away, to the centre of the weirdbeard’s chest. The Hizb’allah use AK-47 on spray’n'pray when adjusting attitudes, the Druze and Christian’s tend to use bolt actions and one good shot. We are already seeing the islamist spray’n'pray in Sydney.
So this sort of crap is already in Sydney, sure as God made little green apples something like night hunting will follow. It’s as sure as night follows day.
Thanks, ALP!
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:52 am
Where? They are petty crims, not men of stature.
.
7 Dec 12 at 9:54 am
20lb (9kg) refill cost $14.95 at Walmart in NC last month. I think a lot of Aussies have no idea how much more they’re paying for energy than much of the rest of the world.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 9:57 am
Just goes to show how much America needs carbon pricing, sdog.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:59 am
Oh hell! Hairy Ape just saying goodbye and has ironed his own shirt.
I have been so good at this of late, completely upskilled, and proud in the role. Purchased a big and impressive new ironing board. But time runs away with me when I’m having fun on the Cat.
I don’t mind, he says self-righteously. I am very happy ironing my own shirt.
Just like he was very happy to get his own dinner last night. Except he didn’t.
Then the piteous: it’s just like being alone waking up dis morning when you are on the blogs.
I was up early and kindly let him sleep in (he had no meetings) and then forgot about him. Mea culpa, Sweet Ape. I will have to work out how to make it up to him.
I can just hear Rabz now: you’ll find a way, Lizzie.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 10:00 am
(American emissions have come down without it, I know, but they need to come down a lot more.)
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 10:00 am
hahaha, ah Lizzie you’re in trouble, nya nya nyaah. Sounds like he’s an expert in the fine art of emotional blackmail by guilt.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 10:04 am
Just shows how much Aussies are getting ripped off. And for what? How much have you lowered global temperatures by yet?
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 10:07 am
The rantings of a “delusional loon”.
Thanks again, Sinc.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 10:07 am
Yes. When I read that link I thought that while it perhaps might help some kids to read it, it could also be yet another depressive thing to deal with. I came from a disintegrating family and would have hated to read stories about other ones like mine. My favorites were happy family stories, which cheered me up and gave me hope that the world at large was a much better place than the one I knew.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 10:11 am
Just as well you’re all-knowing, Doomlord.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 10:12 am
Australian fuel price breakdown
GST 9%
Retailer, wholesaler margin and freight 6%
Fuel excise 38%
Refinery price 47%
So basically 47% of our fuel price is tax.
If you pay 1.35 per litre now, you’d pay 71.6 c.p.l. without tax.
.
7 Dec 12 at 10:12 am
La Tingle says it’s a good thing for the government that the economy is slowing. Yes, it’s all about the political advantage, not jobs. Someone send her a brain.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 10:12 am
La Tingle could be legally pensioned off to an aged care centre or a funny farm.
“You’ve never had it so good, with all states but WA basically in recession for a quite a few years”
.
7 Dec 12 at 10:15 am
What a fanatical weirdo.
twostix
7 Dec 12 at 10:16 am
What foolish groups/individuals are buying Faifax?
$0.47
Mike
Mike of Marion
7 Dec 12 at 10:16 am
What foolish groups/individuals are buying Fairfax?
$0.47
Mike
Mike of Marion
7 Dec 12 at 10:17 am
Okay, so that’s three comments back to SFB for his one comment. Good win, SFB.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 10:20 am
La Tingle is a true believer. She thinks the public will accept a wealthy suit telling them not to worry about losing their jobs etc. That will help the ALP!
She brings up the NDIS as a distraction.
The NDIS and NBN are examples of administrative and policy failure, on top of the inability to return to surplus.
The NDIS could be funded by a combination of phasing out industry protection and general supply side tax reforms. it could simply be tacked onto the Medicare levy and paid out of State revenue, or clipping the GST. The Government could then offer tenders to purchase income protection or other appropriate insurances to fund payouts, with a capital reserve for miscalculation and income smoothing.
It should be run as a trust, administered like PHIAC, with no more but probably less staff than PHIAC.
At most it ought to be absorbed into PHIAC or Treasury. It should be paid out as a trust fund and be means tested. Those who really need it could get more than they do now and it could cost society less.
It should be seen as a chance to actually lessen the role of Government, ending the constant interference and day to day dealing with Government agencies for the disabled. It could also be part of rationalising the tax system.
Why should this cost $22 billion per year?
.
7 Dec 12 at 10:23 am
Don’t blame me for people finding me engaging, Gab.
But onto economics: so, The Australian chooses today to run with a story quoting 4 economists (I think, I just read it quickly) who say that governments (Federal and State) cutting budgets too hard is counterproductive to the RBA interest rate cuts.
So, does this mean The Australian will be writing editorials next year warning of the dangers of severe Abbott led spending cuts if elected?
Logically, it should, but what’s the bet?
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 10:25 am
Not so much the guilt, Gab. It’s just that we are terrible co-dependents.
Or to put it more nicely – we do nurture each other, and miss it when one of us goes a bit emotionally AWOL due to general business. He can do it too and then I lay on the poor me’s.
I must pedal back on the internet anyway so that I can write elsewhere, as you always say I should. HIA is full of encouragement for me to write up something that has interested me for a few years now. Get a househelper, he says, if that is what’s holding you up. It’s not that, though. It’s me.
Still, my problem and not to bother anyone here with it.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 10:27 am
WTF?
Mr Baker said the actuary’s report showed the Productivity Commission’s widely-used figures do not reflect the true cost of the scheme because it does not take into account wage increases, price inflation or population growth.
He also said about 8000 bureaucrats would be needed to run it.
http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-of-living/national-disability-insurance-scheme-blowout-to-hit-middle-class/story-fnagkbpv-1226516974741#ixzz2EJj7D6LA
50 people per day become disabled?
18300 per year (max).
8000 employees?
Each employee can process 2.3 claims a year. A conveyancer working on their own can do 1-2 houses per week.
Surely the civil servants could do at least 1 every working week? So all up 44 per year at a minimum?
This NDIS is simply a scam for the welfare industry. Jobs for the boys. Make work. A cold hearted cash grab under the guise of compassion.
The scheme would need no more than 500 staff, under any circumstances.
.
7 Dec 12 at 10:27 am
Just do it, Lizzie, just start it. You owe it to your future readers.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 10:30 am
The Australian chooses today to run with a story quoting 4 economists (I think, I just read it quickly) who say that governments (Federal and State) cutting budgets too hard is counterproductive to the RBA interest rate cuts.
…and you’ll get about 10 here who say otherwise.
Chris Richardson has never criticised Government spending.
The Rubinomics mircale under Clinton had “uncoordinated” fiscal and monetary policy.
Under Gillard, the ranks of the hidden unemployed are swelling.
.
7 Dec 12 at 10:31 am
By the way: Colebatch was writing earlier this year that the big, pretty much long term, problem that is being kinda ignored is the high Aussie dollar. I expect that if you’re wanting to get an increase in the manufacturing sector up and running to replace the softening in mining, this is true.
There may be a limited amount that can be “safely” done about it, but articles which talk about the likely problems with the aussie economy that don’t address it seem to me to be leaving out a very big issue.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 10:33 am
I did send some brain seeds to Stevie a while back but they don’t seem to have thrived under his horticultural care.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 10:33 am
Nails dried yet, Lizzie?
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 10:36 am
If mining softens, so does the dollar, or it will because the dollar will drive TOT down.
Manufacturing’s problems are not just the dollar. Gillard gave them billions and they still lost jobs.
.
7 Dec 12 at 10:37 am
Dot, that was an excellent piece above on the NDIS.
Also – suggestion. We don’t talk to Stevie, but talk to each other about Stevie. He can have a simple vicarious pleasure while still basically being ignored.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 10:37 am
Ta Gab. When my nails are dry I will start Chapter 2: The Hairy Irish Ape.
Chapter 1 is already done.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 10:39 am
Battle of the Bens
Ben Pile educates a local Ben:
LOL !
Myrrdin Seren
7 Dec 12 at 10:41 am
Well done, Lizzie and no point typing with wet nails.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 10:49 am
In all seriousness, I would be curious to hear Sinclair’s analysis of why McKibbin’s analysis is wrong (from the article in The Australian):
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 10:49 am
(Well, I’m making an assumption there, that is open to correction.)
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 10:51 am
Spoken like a true hyper-materialist. Read Gittins, Ross: The Happy Economist : Happiness for the hard-headed, Allen and Unwin, Crows Nest NSW, 2010 ISBN 978-1-74175-673-9
You might learn something…..
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 10:55 am
The government achieved growth in the funeral industry by funding pink batts.
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 10:55 am
Sooo… Nothing melting anywhere. Just more warmie lies.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 10:56 am
LOL. I like the way your ape rolls, Lizzie, and I appreciate your presence here. Just sayin’.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 10:58 am
Washington State legalises recreational use of marijuana:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-07/washington-state-legalises-marijuana-use/4414132
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 10:59 am
— Thomas Sowell, Is Demography Destiny?
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 11:00 am
“With pizza, you get what you pay for. Pay peanuts, and expect to get monkey sh*t.”
Which is why we don’t bother with anything except Crust when we have home-delivered pizza.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 11:04 am
The Insulation program actually lowered the rate of fires –
The Goebbels principle, worked overtime by the Coalition and fellow travellers on this site, has anchored the myth.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 11:04 am
Someone’s feeling attention-deprived. Awwww. Must not be anyone to play with on his blog.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 11:07 am
Maybe he is being misreported?
If there is a strong dollar and monetary policy has no impact, then it means we don’t have control over it.
The likelihood of fiscal policy doing any better is highly unlikely. To create inflation, it would also create upward pressure on the dollar. This is why it doesn’t work in an open economy.
Which means we have a lot of private investment that we don’t have to pay for.
True.
He is right about borrowing but to conclude it ought to be done assume Gillard will choose the best projects.
She has abandoned doing a CBA on any public spending so there is no way to do this except at random.
Which is why it is wrong to then conclude we ought to spend more on infrastructure.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:07 am
“Professor McKibbin said the problem with the stimulus spending in 2008-09 was that it was excessive and did not add to the economy’s productive capacity.”
This is not wrong.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 11:07 am
A link to crickey, dated April 2010. LOL.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 11:07 am
Ahahahahaha.
Just like Gillard’s border debacle has lowered the rate of drownings.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 11:09 am
Jarrah: I knew no one here would disagree with that part. But his prescription for the future is the thing that is now relevant, and is important for how one assesses Coalition policy.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 11:10 am
You interminable moron numbers the 8000 civil servants “required” for the NDIS would have a caseload of 2.28 people PER YEAR.
How on earth does reading Gittens make this a good proposition?
“You might learn something”
…and I might enjoy having glass shoved up my privates.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:10 am
Each of the civil servants would average…don’t bother pointing it out.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:11 am
Godwin’s Law?
BTW, how many livers of installers were saved Numbers?
Token
7 Dec 12 at 11:12 am
…how many
liverslives of installers…Token
7 Dec 12 at 11:13 am
If you can’t differentiate between marginal and average effects, please stop pontificating on economics.
Being told to read Gittens because “I might learn something” is like telling Katie Upton to watch a special on meth addicts for beauty tips.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:14 am
Monty and Dogshit’s Best Friend will be here any minute for a troll sewer hoedown.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 11:20 am
I’m materialistic?
What about the agitators for the NDIS? Is their $22 billion somehow NOT materialistic? Is it ayurvedic money? What is the debunked lefty meme? Money doesn’t make people happy? They’d be happier in Palestine or Kenya, wouldn’t they?
Federal civil servants with a caseload of 2.28 people per year would have to be the most materialistic, slovenly bludgers known to human history.
They’d beat wharfies on stilnox hands down.
The idea that a public servant of 44 net working weeks should process less than three claims for assistance from people disabled by birth or accident is simply outrageous.
I’m struggling to see if numbers thinks I am materialistic because the programme should be run efficiently with the bulk of the money spent on the disabled, or if I’m materialistic because it ought to be means tested and the children of a BRW 200 rich lister probably shouldn’t be covered. Am I materialistic because I say cut the greedy industry welfare of the car and union lobby and fund it efficiently by clipping the GST for a small amount?
Come on numbers. Explain yourself. Do not make references to a poorly dressed crank who failed at being an auditor and no formal qualifications in economics.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:22 am
“Just like Gillard’s border debacle has lowered the rate of drownings.”
In all seriousness, that could be an interesting set of numbers to look at, to see if drownings-per-boat changes much, and if that is correlated with policy changes.
Does anyone know if research has been done on this?
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 11:25 am
sdog – if da Hairy Ape comes onto this blog, I’m outta here. He does his own internetty things, mostly consisting of graphs and figures and equations, with an occasional bikini lady perhaps, but not always, combined with some new turbo-charged car he is also fantasising about. I am a man, Lizzie, he whimpers when caught out.
It’s just like with the kids: I have eyes in the back of my head, I say.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 11:26 am
That’s pretty macarbe Jarrah but no one has explained why the 1980s had so few boats.
I want the numbers crunched. Open the borders again and change the necessary policy to attract the right migrants, and shut down the barbed wire detention centres and detainment with no charge that Paul Keating set up.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:29 am
Hey Service Number, how about the number of deaths per install. Did that get lowered as well?
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 11:29 am
Bravo, Dot, bravo.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 11:29 am
Anyone seen the Pizza Hut ad where they are putting a weiner into the crust? Whatever fool in their marketing department thought that up should be taken out and flogged.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 11:34 am
Let’s compare the ATO to this NDIS scam that is being proposed.
http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.aspx?menuid=0&doc=/content/00295453.htm&page=99
The ATO has over 25000 staff.
The ATO processes over 14 million tax returns and 18 million activity statements and 1.5 million debt cases were settled finalised, in 2006/07!
I understand the nature of the work is different, but on average, on the old figures (skewed to low output), the ATO averages 1320 cases per employee per year.
The NDIS proposal of 8000 staff would see 2.28 cases per employee per year.
We are literally being taken for a ride.
.
7 Dec 12 at 11:34 am
What the Harvard Economics Dept is up to. I assume this is just like the RMIT Economics Dept.
m0nty
7 Dec 12 at 11:36 am
Looks amusing, mOnty. I wonder if the RMIT version features Sinclair doing that Flashdance song in a mankini. [I'm still allowed to make mankini jokes I assume.]
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 11:41 am
“[I'm still allowed to make mankini jokes I assume.]”
Did you get some rules you have to abide by?
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 11:44 am
Please don’t use the footpath. Troll sewer hoedown underway.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 11:45 am
What
the Harvard Economics DeptMIT is up to.Engineers have more fun.
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 11:45 am
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/mexican-court-rules-favor-sex-marriage-17890707#.UMCMkYOumXk
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 11:45 am
No. I’m just left to live like someone on death row, not knowing the time or reason for my next cyber-execution.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 11:49 am
@ John Mc
Yes
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 11:50 am
@ John Mc
Yes
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 11:51 am
I’ve never quite understood why certain Latin countries (Spain, Mexico), which one would traditionally say have had very macho male cultures, seem to be quite early adopters on gay marriage.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 11:54 am
@ Noname
A large proportion are people with disabilities.
Your figures are fantasy.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with Palestine or Kenya – only in your fevered imagination….
It’s also complete bullshit.
Am I materialistic because I say cut the greedy industry welfare of the car and union lobby and fund it efficiently by clipping the GST for a small amount?
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 11:55 am
Don’t try linking to someones apology as a response, you doughy 70s throwback. You know, you are the epitome of pathetic. You are, and have only every been, a drain on the society that supports you. You are a reject in every sense of the word.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 11:57 am
It has nothing to do with the union lobby – it has to do with quality of life of people with a disability.
I’m wondering what his state of dress has to do with the quality of his ideas – but this is Catallaxy, so anything is possible.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 11:58 am
I have no problem with his statement at all. The problem is that there is no well chosen infrastructure. Well chosen infrastructure would be dams, irrigation and power assets. All of which fall under the ‘no!’ category for the gaians.
Instead we get school tuck shops and sheds, zero-return insulation, and billions spent on the economic refugee industry, which has the side effect of social tensions. Then there is the NBn, a complete failure of a project, and one doomed to never be completed.
So. Again. In principle there is no problem with borrowing for infrastructure with large and long term paybacks. If this ever got done, of course.
In the meantime, zero cost policies like brining back modern workplace laws, clamping back down on militant unions and giving resource investors certainty back would fix most, if not all, of the current economic woes.
brc
7 Dec 12 at 11:59 am
In Mexico it was only legal in the capital originally. It’s the standard cities-are-less-conservative dynamic. One other state allows same-sex marriage now, but not without contention.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 11:59 am
The European male is really a third sex. They’re more like women but with less body hair.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 12:01 pm
@John Mc
I’ve never been “supported” by anyone except myself. In fact, if you toted up the tax I’ve paid since I started work at age 15 in 1962, I’ve probably supported a score or two of your ilk down through the years.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 12:01 pm
In fairness, the point of the exercise was to get the money spent quickly for it to have the desired effect, and picking and planning big infra structure projects is (supposed to – NBN’s excepted I guess) take time.
As such, putting the money into educational facilities was probably not a bad idea – they are of immediate but ongoing community benefit and get built pretty quickly.
The insulation scheme was also not a bad idea, in terms of savings on growth in power needs, just poorly implemented.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 12:06 pm
Service number, before we start even debating the value of your ‘work’ or the programs that you have been involved in (which I have no interest in doing), even you would have to agree as a starting point that the government has paid much more money to you in public sector wages than you have paid to them in taxes.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 12:07 pm
No they are not.
why would you bring up a crank like Gittens…”money doesn’t make you happy, Government departments shouldn’t aim for at least average levels of efficiency”…
No it’s 100% correct.
The fucker rolls up to economists dinners, in joggers and a “suit”, unkempt hair and gorges himself before you’re even registered.
Did I mention his ideas are debunked bullshit and he has no quals and was once an auditor?
The fat fucking clown.
The NDIS would see public servants process 2.3 claims per year. It will not be means tested. There is plenty of waste that can be used to fund such a noble (if properly managed) idea.
Number’s quack ideology is that all Government spending is good and it does not suffer from diminishing marginal returns.
.
7 Dec 12 at 12:07 pm
Everything Rudd, Swan and Gillard touch turns to shit.
.
7 Dec 12 at 12:08 pm
The BER had the added unacknowledged benefit of making every school in the country wheelchair accessible. All constructions under BER had to comply with ASA access standards. In regional and rural areas in Qld (for example) where the standard bush school is of classic Qld wooden construction built on stilts, suddenly access was created for a whole generation of kids.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 12:10 pm
GPK = Gourmet Pizza Kitchen
NEW ORLEANS: finely sliced chicken breast fillets marinated with hot Cajun spices, roasted potato, baby spinach & mushrooms served on GPK’s tomato sauce, topped with sour cream, drizzled with a sweet chilli sauce. $23.90
Yum
Sorry, Sydney and NSW Central Coast only.
Septimus
7 Dec 12 at 12:11 pm
JohnMc: you’re a serious nutjob if you’re going to argue that State school teachers are “leeches” on the taxpayer.
I mean: a real, serious, joke of a nutjob.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 12:12 pm
Make a habit of attending these pigs’ swills, do you?
Explains a lot…..
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 12:13 pm
Fuck off dipshit. There is no evidence the public education departments are a bastion of efficiency. In fact, to the contrary, the evidence is that a large portion of them are the standard taxeaters like service number here.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 12:15 pm
And if you join GPK’s free club, they email you a voucher once per month for 1 free gourmet or dessert pizza. Eat in or take-away.
Septimus
7 Dec 12 at 12:20 pm
I’m sure they had to pay $11000 per square metre too.
Fuck off, I’d have to listen to nutjobs like you, Stiglitz and Gittens if I did.
He didn’t, but there is a minority of poor teachers that can’t be fired. They give the rest a bad name.
.
7 Dec 12 at 12:21 pm
Riiiiight. Because they’re closed as tight as a drum at the moment.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 12:23 pm
The minority are the good public sector teachers who really care for the kids and still believe they can make a difference with the public system structured the way it is.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 12:24 pm
C.L.
I’m basically blaming the ALP for chumming the waters and then opening up detention centres. You should be so lucky.
.
7 Dec 12 at 12:32 pm
Shorter JohnMc: I have no idea what you’ve done in the school system, but I’ll mouth off anyway.
It’s just a stupid line of attack.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 12:32 pm
Propaganda from Murdoch’s Pravda.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 12:38 pm
ShitFer, service number has crapped on about his current job as well as his history to have some understanding of what he does and where he’s coming from.
BTW, I live in service number’s town, my kids were in the public system in this state, and one of them is special needs.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 12:38 pm
Oh – so are you saying you do know of his actual work performance from personal experience?
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 12:41 pm
What a stupid decision by the Mexican Supreme Court. To condition marriage to a union between one man and one woman doesn’t in the slightest violate the principle of equality. I’d like to see the conditions of marriage which they concluded do and don’t violate this principle.
dover_beach
7 Dec 12 at 12:43 pm
Dear Lord, I see Stevie B is discussing economics again.
In keeping with this theme tomorrow an alpaca will lecture on self managed super funds.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 12:43 pm
Facts. “Independent Australia” is truly the Pravda resurrected in all its Soviet “glory”.
The overspend on the BER was ridiculous. You are deluding yourself, but we already knew that.
.
7 Dec 12 at 12:47 pm
No ShitFer. I don’t know him personally.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 12:47 pm
C’mon IT, keep it real.
For a dose of irony, try this one instead,
“In keeping with this theme tomorrow a Catholic will lecture on the righteousness of gay marriage and abortion.”
Huckleberry Chunkwot
7 Dec 12 at 12:47 pm
@John Mc
So you belong to the Royal Society of Leaping Lunatics that believes that we can do without a public sector.
Good luck with that….
By the way, I have not worked my whole life in the public sector, and am earning now, at age 65, by running my own small business.
If you want to tote up transactions (giving and receiving), I reckon I could make a pretty good case that the Feds own me about $20000 being the 2012 equivalent of the difference between what I would have earned as a teacher in 69/70 and what I actually earned as a Nasho.
Some states applied “make-up pay”, but not Jo Bjelke-Petersen’s Queensland.
Ironic whan you remember that Queenslanders who were called up were ostensibly fighting Jo’s sworn enemies in SVN.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 12:49 pm
You need new material, IT.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 12:50 pm
Nah, it’s just another ice age, Gab. Nothing to worry about – it’ll heat up again next decade.
nilk
7 Dec 12 at 12:52 pm
Booya! It’s the Cat’s favorite pin-up girl… and she had her hair done special!
sdog
7 Dec 12 at 12:53 pm
“To condition marriage to a union between one man and one woman doesn’t in the slightest violate the principle of equality.”
Ah, the old ‘gay men can marry women so there’s no discrimination’ line.
“I’d like to see the conditions of marriage which they concluded do and don’t violate this principle.”
We’ll have to wait for someone’s analysis in English.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 12:53 pm
For the record I oppose conscription. But for you service number, you can consider your military service just another tax you paid to support your community.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 12:54 pm
@John Mc
You also apparently oppose the existence of the public sector. Perhaps you’d like to explain your strategy for a society that refuses to employ police, firies, nurses, teachers and ambos.
Should be interesting…..
Closest contemporary equivalent is probably Somalia.
1735099
7 Dec 12 at 1:01 pm
Some other year. Incidentally, I never actually said that. I just said you were an example of inefficiency in the public sector.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 1:04 pm
BTW, do you think the fact that Australian society doesn’t look like Somalia is because we pay people like you to work in the public sector?
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 1:06 pm
I like Penny Wong more after seeing her on Annabel Crabb’s show last night.
Her Mum has a house with a really nice view, too.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 1:12 pm
It really is like history began in 1965 listening to embittered boomers. What’s the deal with that?
twostix
7 Dec 12 at 1:24 pm
If the government were truly supportive in getting disabled into the workforce they would institute affirmative action policies to only employ unemployed disabled people in this department.
I’m sure there would be plenty of amputee’s that would give their right arm for the chance to get paid work.
Tourettes sufferers could be in charge of the complaints department.
The deaf would
manperson the call centre phones.Blind filing clerks.
Mentally impaired would focus on application assessment,payments, and collections. Criteria for this role is very low as the only prerequisites are that you display some form of cretinism for example; Union membership, Labour party membership, or previously employed by the ABC. (you’d be a shoe in Spud)
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 1:26 pm
The entire Labor Caucus would like to extend our warmest greeting for the festive season.
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 1:34 pm
Yeah, that’s what everyone leaves a Stones gig saying.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 1:38 pm
Talking about predictable. In addition to lazily trying to throw in a Nazi comparison, Numbers is working hard to beat M0nty to the most Strawman constructed in a week.
Both signs of a dim wit and limited intellect.
Token
7 Dec 12 at 1:43 pm
For the record, I thought conscription was great!
I had a ball.
Eddystone
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Eddystone
7 Dec 12 at 1:48 pm
“I like Penny Wong more after seeing her on Annabel Crabb’s show last night.”
Everyone is more likeable if they get to show a side of themselves other than the bear pit persona.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 1:48 pm
Investing in ‘green, renewable’ energy is money wasted that could have been spent on booze and hookers:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/06/is-green-energy-a-fad-that-has-run-its-course/#comments
The index of Big Green companies has fallen almost 90% since 2007.
I feel sorry for punters in compulsory super funds which have pissed away their money in the name of “responsible investment”, “good corporate citizenship” and all the rest of the flummery that is used to steal people’s money.
The bleatings will become a cacophony as they all go broke, one by one – and the Feds are primed to throw billions more dollars of our money at them. That includes the Coalition.
Bloody disgraceful.
johanna
7 Dec 12 at 1:48 pm
The spud peeler actually quoted a left wing e-zine which claims that the ABC is being directed by NEWS Ltd.
What a laughable zombie parrot clown.
.
7 Dec 12 at 1:51 pm
Liberty Quote.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 1:52 pm
johanna
Like me and uncle JC have said: if you are a subsidy whore, you are not a viable business and will most likely fail. The spoils go to the quickly retiring founding directors.
.
7 Dec 12 at 1:53 pm
Geez I’d love a Passiona.
.
7 Dec 12 at 1:54 pm
Actually, I found myself liking Christopher Pyne less after seeing him on the show.
The NT senator, whose name I forget, who was on last week came across pretty well, though.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 1:57 pm
Not true of Gillard. The more you see of the woman the more you realise there’s nothing there.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 1:57 pm
Just watched some of that episode on iView, and at one point Crabbe is talking about how Wong is generally cool, calm and collected and you can see her struggling not to use the word ‘inscrutable’
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 2:00 pm
Are you talking about the politician who is preferred PM over Abbott by 13 points, CL?
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:01 pm
Actually, I think Annabel might have had one glass of wine too many during that lunch. She was very happy during it.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:02 pm
All this proves is the ALP true believers are hate filled, slanderous, small minded pettifoggers.
“Abbot is an evil, stupid man who hates women”
He hasn’t even committed a litany of crimes against orphans and widows like Gillard has.
.
7 Dec 12 at 2:03 pm
Unless she’s taking off her bloomers.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 2:04 pm
“She was very happy during it.”
She probably just likes Wong and enjoyed making the episode. It looks like the sentiment was mutual considering Wong opened the door with an affectionate “Hello, Crabby”.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 2:08 pm
“Bloomers”. How very 1930′s of you, IT.
Are you having a nice lunch of dripping on bread today as well?
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:09 pm
I didn’t see much of Bronwyn Bishop’s episode (it might be coming up in repeat) but what I saw of Bronnie was pretty ghastly.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:11 pm
sfb, it was Nigel Scullion, conservative, NT. I commented in a previous OT that he is a real person (former fisherman and soldier) who I would pay to cook for me, especially if he joined me for the meal.
One of the few non-lawyers/union officials/teachers and other sheltered bores in Parliament.
johanna
7 Dec 12 at 2:12 pm
Are you talking about the politician who is preferred PM over Abbott by 13 points, CL?
Preferred, but yet still almost certain to lose. Go figure.
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 2:14 pm
BTW, don’t ever go out drinking with him…
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 2:14 pm
My grandparents loved dripping on bread.
They never quite got over rationing either and used to apply butter to their bread in cheese like slabs as if it was going to be outlawed tomorrow.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 2:15 pm
Wasn’t Nigel Scullion the one who was going to make his famous mango daiquiris at the LNP Xmas hoedown?
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 2:16 pm
I don’t know how anyone can not like Annabel, by the way.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:17 pm
They never quite got over rationing either and used to apply butter to their bread in cheese like slabs as if it was going to be outlawed tomorrow.
My father was like that. Never had heart or weight problems, but he did work physically most of his life I suppose. Used to drink straight milk coffee as well, and none of this ‘lite milk’ stuff either!!
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 2:21 pm
Dear God please don’t let them start a conversation about the PM’s underwear
Tal
7 Dec 12 at 2:26 pm
Yes. It seems dairy fats are not harmful for heart health.
I don’t want to get into an argument on stupid what’s his name diet, but if I were dieting, I would reduce meat fats first, and dairy fats last.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:27 pm
John MC, the lite milk in it’s various forms has more sugar in it than regular milk. People are better off with just normal full strength milk.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 2:28 pm
As a Dutchie, I had ‘speckvet’ (the mixture of fat and fried bits from speck) on bread, with a bit of salt, as a child. It was yummy. Oh, and none of us were/are fat, and our hearts and arteries are in splendid shape.
Getting back to Nigel Scullion, as well as being a superb cook of entrees and main courses, he won a prize with his cake depicting Julia Gillard and a crocodile:
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2011/07/27/249641_ntnews.html
Truly, a Renaissance man. I’d like to meet him. As for his drinking capacity, hmmm – soldier, fisherman, politician. I dimly perceive a trend there.
johanna
7 Dec 12 at 2:30 pm
No, Jarrah, I don’t think I’ve ever used that line.
dover_beach
7 Dec 12 at 2:35 pm
You’re an idiot.
Even Fairfax ran this article earlier in the week:
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/the-fat-and-the-fiction-20121205-2avgo.html
Stop abusing science, Steve. It’s either women or science with you.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 2:35 pm
Shitfer, does your wife and kids know that you seek out other females e-mail addresses and abuse them?
harrys on the boat
7 Dec 12 at 2:44 pm
Afternoon johanna,
Please see upthread @ 9.49am today re Doha and Mancini.
Septimus
7 Dec 12 at 2:44 pm
No they don’t, because it has never happened.
Here’s a hint, Harry: people here talk imaginary crap about me quite a lot. Clearly, you haven’t worked that out yet.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:48 pm
I have decided how to turn Da Hairy Ape into a Normal Happy Ape once more. Tonight I will make it long and slow for him.
My special ragout, that is. Done for 6 hours at around 100 degrees.
You lot must have bad minds, as my mum used to say.
Oh help – just look at the time. That means we won’t be eating until 9pm again. Must go cook.
Back to bad thoughts for the long and slow.
Got to keep his mind off food for a while.
As Bolta says: No Comments
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 2:51 pm
Now I have a mental image of you as Benny Hill in a dress, Lizzie.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 2:54 pm
Hi Sep, thanks, sorry I missed your reply. Mancini’s originals are worth checking out.
Am listening to Fela Kuti/Roy Ayers “2000 Blacks”. There is some amazing African music out there. I recall a program called something like “Festival in the Desert”, showing a festival in Mali, that has been on SBS a couple of times. Just awesome, including the weirdest mixture of traditional and modern music styles and instruments imaginable.
johanna
7 Dec 12 at 2:56 pm
“No, Jarrah, I don’t think I’ve ever used that line.”
I distinctly remember you using that argument, if not in those exact words.
If I’m remembering incorrectly, my apologies.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 2:57 pm
yeah, no….
There’s more, Harry, If I could be bothered to search.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 2:57 pm
I’ve had a drink with Nigel Scullion, and he cooked us dinner (on a BBQ). He even repaired the BBQ before using it.
I think I woke up on the back lawn the next morning – never drink rum with an NT fisherman. He is an excellent cook, and brilliant company.
boy on a bike
7 Dec 12 at 3:01 pm
Feeble, Stevie, feeble.
Get out of my way, I am cooking.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 3:08 pm
Hahahaha
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2011/07/27/249641_ntnews.html
The problem isn’t with sexism per se, but the putatively homicidal animus lying behind the concept. If people can’t see that, I’d say that’s really a comment on where political discourse has gone.
Posted by: Fran Barlow of Sydney 12:27pm Thursday 28th July
A teaching moment. Don’t name your kids after totalitarian dictators and ideologues, Franny.
.
7 Dec 12 at 3:10 pm
I think you’re confusing me with CL here; apologies to CL if I’m wrong.
dover_beach
7 Dec 12 at 3:11 pm
OIC: I thought there was some connection being drawn between email and abuse. But now I get it. It’s the old “let’s pretend X wasn’t joking” line. [Gab used it re Gillards end of the world video yesterday too.]
All very fake and tiresome, but I’m not supposed to talk about it, so move on.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 3:17 pm
Steve you are here only because it’s official Be Kind to Lepers Week. We will interpret your comments any way we like.
Now stop being racist and toodle off.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 3:27 pm
No, I’m talking about the woman Australians have consistently wanted to replace with Tony Abbott ever since she was appointed by Rob Oakeshott.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 3:32 pm
A bunch of knocking shops have been served subpoenas by the police investigating Brothel Creeper Thompson.
What possible new information could they provide? The credit card slips?
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 3:34 pm
It is in the oven! Five and a half hours should do it. Ape rang and won’t be home till gone 8, so sub-plan B will not be necessary; a shame really. Time for a cup of tea and a further word to Stevie, who got off lightly.
Stevie, we all know what your mental apparatus is like, thus I doubt if you could ever form an accurate mental image of anything. Do keep trying though. Even the most impaired brain can forge a few new neural connections if efforts are made.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 3:35 pm
Or da ladies with good memories for identifying features?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
7 Dec 12 at 3:40 pm
Breaking Gillard Labor latest:
Brothels subpoenaed in Craig Thomson case.
LOL.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 3:41 pm
The name plate off the plaque in the Brothel’s foyer celebrating Shagger’s frequent flyer achievement for 100 visits might be a good start.
Splatacrobat
7 Dec 12 at 3:42 pm
Tea and red wine have kept the economics profession alive in consulting and academia since 1776.
.
7 Dec 12 at 3:43 pm
Hater lol
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 3:46 pm
Latest Media Watch Dog.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 3:47 pm
Following on from the perfume discussion last night.
Perhaps this one will be more to your liking.
Pizza Hut to ship bottles of pizza-scented perfume to 100 select Canadians
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 3:53 pm
“We’ve got five pints of this sicko’s DNA. Lock him up fellas.”
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 3:56 pm
Haaahaaaahaaaa & lol’s & ROTFLing
Bottom left hand corner at 1:16.
Are Daddy Longlegs Spiders?
Pinched from awuworkplacereformassociation.org
Rudiau
7 Dec 12 at 4:06 pm
Fixed it.
I occasionally have a late afternoon nap so switch the channel to LNL to make sure I get off quickly.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 4:13 pm
From wiki
Note the cops: Interview the first wife, whoever she is.
jumpnmcar
7 Dec 12 at 4:17 pm
ooh yeah!
Did you check out awuworkplacereformassociation.org be interesting to see Howes’ reponse.
Rudiau
7 Dec 12 at 4:22 pm
response
Rudiau
7 Dec 12 at 4:24 pm
SfB, you sometimes provide the odd insight, but generally you are just noise.
I understand that you see yourself as “useful” noise because you think you present a view which challeneges the entrenched view of the blog. You may even be right about that.
Fact is, though, you are the worst kind of thread-hogging troll and your brief absence was an absolute joy for those of us who read much and comment little.
Your return lessens the value of this blog substantially… and for no good purpose that I can see.
Doomlord 0, Trolls 1
mct
7 Dec 12 at 4:33 pm
Pork dripping on bread is wonderful, steve – don’t knock it (though lots better if you have it on a pork sanga). Just think of it as “pork flavoured butter” and you’ll be fine.
Though I’m not sure IT ever eats bread.
Fleeced
7 Dec 12 at 4:43 pm
Assume IT uses a 12″ grilled beef patty as ‘flatbread’.
There are some “primal restaurants” that fashion of meaty pizza base in the same way.
.
7 Dec 12 at 4:45 pm
Whoah. Canada dumps the F-35! Will Australia follow?
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 4:46 pm
Christopher Monckton reports on his conversation with the man behind this week’s comical climate hysteria in Doha.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 4:47 pm
Mrs D has banned me from ever getting a mankini.
Sinclair Davidson
7 Dec 12 at 4:51 pm
Um, oh, how…terrible?
.
7 Dec 12 at 4:54 pm
Has the F-35 actually flown yet?
Interesting, Jarrah. On current trends, I predict that we will have world peace in about 50 years time simply because every weapon system available then will take fifty years to develop, will cost more than any government can afford, and will not work.
squawkbox
7 Dec 12 at 5:02 pm
The F35 makes the the Dreamliners delay look like a clerical error.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 5:05 pm
And they say the market doesn’t work!
John Mc
7 Dec 12 at 5:05 pm
Ha ha I got a laugh out of Sinc’s comment
”
Alice – I was holding stuff further and further away to read it, until I couldn’t extend my arms further. Mrs D said I was getting blind, but I knew my arms were shrinking.
Just like my suits shrink at the dry-cleaners.
ha ha still laughing LOL!!
This guy has a sense of humour but really Sinc – can you please explain to me the benefits of multi focals? I do not want my arms to shrink like yours have.
This is my first pair of prescription glasses (and I admit it – maybe I need something extra??)
Seeing as part of my job is to inspect the amounts on small Bunnings invoices (I hate Bunnings invoices). They fade and they are teensy.
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 5:14 pm
The alternative to multi-focals is to get two pairs of glasses. Now that’s what my father did when he had to get bifocals – he wasn’t going to look like an old fart with the line across his glasses etc. etc. he went on and on. Anyway the two pairs of glasses lasted about two weeks – with them getting tangled up and lost and left behind etc. So he sent to get the bifocals, and luckily for him the multifocals had come out, so he didn’t get the line across the bottom.
Sinclair Davidson
7 Dec 12 at 5:20 pm
And at least Dotty makes some keem observations (even if he didnt in my case)
“A teaching moment. Don’t name your kids after totalitarian dictators and ideologues, Franny.”
Dotty – spot on. Franny is a teacher totalitarian. I cant understand the woman at all. She has been in that game too long. Definitely.
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 5:20 pm
Ok Sinc I get it. I need a better prescription.
I just need to go back there and say “MULTIFICOCALS PLEASE”.
You see when I put this pair on i can see the teensy Bunnings invoices but I cant see people’s faces or the computer so the glasses go up down up down on my head. Its bloody annoying.
Yes they are not on my head right now.
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 5:23 pm
Squawkbox:
VFMA-121 (based at Marine Corps air station Yuma) became the first operational F-35 Squadron yesterday.
DO try and keep up….
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 5:26 pm
Actually, I have a brother who just had some kind of bifocal lens implant-y thing done. (Not laser reshaping.)
I had never heard of it before. He said the operation was not painful.
steve from brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 5:30 pm
COP 18 in Doha is a bottomless source of great ideas.
That is from the official site.
Unserious children.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 5:45 pm
Sorry Gab, a liquid lunch. Steve is one sick fuck. I doubt he’s married, you can tell by his comments and harrassment of the females here. Heaven forbid if he is, a definite Fred and Rose West couple.
harrys on the boat
7 Dec 12 at 5:49 pm
Sweet Jesus Anne Summers is Radio National at the moment, her voice is like leather.
Her magazine has launched. Sane. Factual. Relevant.
Enjoy
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 5:54 pm
DaveF appeared on Catallaxy File blog and described Anne Summers Report as “the most self-indulgent tripe” that he had ever read. DaveF added: “It is smug, complacent, matey, boffo girl stuff and intolerable to read.”
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 6:17 pm
Whta has Anne Summers done that is soooo wrong?
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 6:25 pm
I know an older man that just had some kind of lasering done and is seeing like a tewenty year old?
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 6:26 pm
Potemkin’s Village
Well, that’s it… here
Grigory Potemkin
7 Dec 12 at 6:30 pm
It’s predictable pap Alice. She’s just phoning it in.
And its awfully pretentious, the Sane Factual Relevant is the slogan for it.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 6:32 pm
“because every weapon system available then will take fifty years to develop, will cost more than any government can afford, and will not work.”
The F-35 project has been a particularly egregious clusterfuck.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 7:07 pm
Hve you git a link DaveF? I wouldnt mind reading it etc
She has been writing for a long time and maybe it has become too predictable etc
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 7:24 pm
Maybe Anne summer’s phone in doesnt have a link etc
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 7:26 pm
Just when you think the whole world is an unflushed toilet at a curry festival, you discover that the Palace of Versailles still employs a Royal Molecatcher.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 7:30 pm
And mind you Dot
Dear Franny is still as we speak dominating Quiggers blog….maybe thats because she does the teacher totaliarian bit so politely.
Personally I cant understand why Quiggin puts up with the crap from Fran and bans lesser mortals who say what they really think (like moi) but he does.
Mystery to me….
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 7:31 pm
The link is in a previous comment, not to far up.
Also here.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 7:32 pm
Good.
I had the best picnic of my life at Versailles this year. Went on a bike tour, stopped of at Versailles markets for rolls, sandwiches, cakes (lots of) and wine, then had the picnic at the top of the lake with a view of the palace.
Magnificent.
jupes
7 Dec 12 at 7:41 pm
IT
If you like the molecather. Look at royal hounds feeding time at Cheverny. Look at these fuckers going into a frenzy and working out if a good whipping is worth it for the choice cut of meat..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC4cACp-E2w
JC
7 Dec 12 at 7:45 pm
I love a good concert, romantic period music and all that, but this is simply beyond the pale – or perhaps barricade in this case.
Did they have to go and spoil it by inviting Geoffrey Robertson?
blogstrop
7 Dec 12 at 7:47 pm
I’m really starting to dig the French. Sure they are commie bastards, but they also appreciate a lot cool shit like sex, food and smoking.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 7:50 pm
The frogs aren’t politically correct. It never took off like in the leftist Anglo bogholes.
Those French beagles are really good looking dogs.
JC
7 Dec 12 at 7:54 pm
A royal molecatcher? I seem to recall that one of those got entangled with Fergy and was recast as a financial adviser.
blogstrop
7 Dec 12 at 7:58 pm
I think Mark Steyn’s discription of Joe Biden applies even better to Geoffrey Robertson.
Preening buffoon.
jupes
7 Dec 12 at 7:59 pm
Pizzas here aren’t a patch on the deeelicious pizzas they make in London and environs. It’s practically a different dish! (Best ever pizza? No – not in Italy but in Albi, birthplace of Toulouse Lautrec.)
Cakes and pastries ditto – God I get so fed up with dry floury muffins, stale almond danishes, the same old, same old caramel slices, banana bread, chocolate brownies on offer most places you go for a coffee in this country.
Viva
7 Dec 12 at 8:02 pm
Awesome, what a scrum of dogs. And yes the whip was a value add to the video.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 8:06 pm
The frogs are irresistibly likeable, IT, because they’re arrogant imperialists and know exactly what they want. But 60% of their economy is the government. Like the Italians, they’re unreconstructed communists and they won’t give it up until they break their treasury.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 8:09 pm
Jc none got whipped (only the ground) but I am left wondering if all those dogs got a feed?
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 8:09 pm
Tom they’ve been doing it for so long I suspect they just tap the debt up by a little each year and it may be semi sustainable.
Lots of rules as well. They aren’t as rich as they could be but they don’t have booms and busts.
Maybe the immigration will bust the system.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 8:13 pm
Jarrah:
Actually, it hasn’t been especially bad bearing in mind the sheer scale of the new technologies and the problems they have had managing risk in a political control system that demands zero risk at no additional cost and zero cost increases in real terms while collapsing the numbers to be acquired.
That’s akin to legislating the Pi = 3.
What’s driving the unit price up is the reduction in numbers. What’s skewing the risk is the absolute refusal of politicians to use commercial major-project protocols. They tend to front-end load the project to sort the risk out early. That way, the probability of project failure can be finely judged inside the first 30% or so of expenditre. You can then can the project and only lose 30% of the finances. A contact of mine was promoted over such a decision to cancel, he only lost about a billion rather than four billion.
Politicians refuse to do this, and that’s why high-risk projects like Seasprite waste so much money, there are huge incentives to pour good money after bad, and none to take the very courageous decision to cancel early and lose only 25-33% while avoiding all overruns. The politicians don’t care, they can blame the military. The military cares but cannot do anything with that care, they know there’s nothing they can do to get a politician to exhibit moral courage, so all they can do is put it on paper, and hope being blamed for the mess the pollies made does not kill too many of them.
The contractors care a lot – for the way the pollies policies have structured the risk profiles in the projects, because they know they can essentially transfer the cost of the risk to the taxpayer!
And yet despite all this, what has emerged is a superlative combat aircraft at a reasonable cost given the terrible project system.
Bear in mind that exactly the same criticisms were levied at the F-15. It has a 104:0 kill ratio. Same with the F-16 (harder to work out, looks like 52:0 or 52:1), endless criticims by ‘experts’ and it is the most successful combat aircraft in history.
At the last Red Flag, F-22 ‘scored’ about 110:0 against Eurofighters, Typhoons, Sukhois, Mirages. The completely unconfirmed rumours in the knucklehead world are that the F-35′s at Red Flag did better than the F-22 (which has some CRM issues). All knuck rumours are to be taken with a ton of salt (best done by getting a one ton slab of rocksalt and dropping it on the knuck from 20′ up). Nevertheless, F-22 is seriously altering the knuck world, assymetric tactics and employment with mixed F-16 and F-15 formations is extending the extant superiority of these machines as well. F-35 does the same.
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 8:14 pm
I bet the immigration will bust their system too Davef. It seems the middle east is a mess and its exporting itself everywhere? (should I say that aloud?)
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 8:15 pm
Tom
I don’t thing the Italians are quite as bad. A large part of the Italian Economy is the grey market and they make a lot of sht the rest of the world wants. The frogs are happy with a government job, whereas italians are too but not as much as the frogs.
I like the frogs too.
JC
7 Dec 12 at 8:18 pm
CRM = cockpit resource management
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 8:18 pm
Harsh but fair.
However all is not lost, gentlefolk i give you the Dassault Rafale, possibly the most beautiful aircraft since the spitfire and a great multirole weapons platform.
Probly should have linked to a picture, but look for yourselves.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 8:20 pm
Less successful countries major export is people. Look at the Phillipines, they have a special immigration line for Balakbyan (Flips who emigrated).
Filipinos are ok but the Middle East exports a pretty ordinary bunch of humanity to Europe and here.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 8:22 pm
I used to go to Paris once a month in the early 90s. We go to lunch and this place had the best apple strudel and cream in the world. My mouth still waters at the thought. I could eat it every day and not get sick of it .
JC
7 Dec 12 at 8:23 pm
The French hunting dogs reminded me of Obama’s constituency.
C.L.
7 Dec 12 at 8:23 pm
You’re right, of course, JC. The Italians have the good sense to elect the occasional prime minister not totally devoted to destroying the economy.
Tom
7 Dec 12 at 8:24 pm
Infidel tiger says
“I’m really starting to dig the French. Sure they are commie bastards, but they also appreciate a lot cool shit like sex, food and smoking.”
Well you cant deny the French dont have the english hang ups re sex etc (or dont seem to) I mean they mastered the art of affairs and also food and probably smoking.
Shock horror – maybe a government job isnt a bad thing at all if you get home at 5.30, have time for an affair, as well as a good meal and some smoking afterwards?
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 8:26 pm
sounds good to me
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 8:27 pm
Carpe, Rafale is pretty. Useless, but very pretty.
The problem with froggie and euroweenie machines is that they build six of them and use closed-architecture data systems. That way it’s all proprietary, and you have no choice but to go to them for all your support over the platform life. Yay. Monopoly support!
They also optimise for use of their own missile systems. Most euroweenie missiles are shyte – Russki stuff is better (off the wall in some ways as Ivan thinks differently – but better). The Poms have some rippers and there are one or two outstanding euroweenie ones (MBAE Stormshadow is a great CASCOM, its progenitor Apache was also very good, Durandal was a fabulous system in its day)
That worked so well with RAAF’s Mirage III (the reason we said ‘never again with froggie birds’).
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 8:30 pm
I agree Dafe F on the export import of humanbity problem mentioned earlier.
I do know some of what gets exported here from the middle east is in this country for two seconds before trhey are involved in every welfare and indurance rort under the bloody sun.
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 8:31 pm
insurance
Alice
7 Dec 12 at 8:31 pm
My mum had that when she was a child. I don’t know whether she loved it, though. She also taught me how to roast a leg of lamb using dripping and the fat.
I don’t do a roast often, but I still use the fat, and one day I’m going to give in to temptation and buy some dripping.
Might do that next time I go for groceries!
nilk
7 Dec 12 at 8:44 pm
I’m not completely sure that the F-35 is the best fit for Australia’s defence needs actually, but then again there doesn’t actually seem to be a viable alternative currently available.
The F-111 program cost blew out massively and the delays were similarly intolerable but at least in the end we were equipped with an extremely capable aircraft with a very long range, huge payload and good survivability. The F-35 can’t match it in terms of range or payload and given the Oz continent’s large land and sea area it leaves a pretty large capability gap. We can’t reach targets in Indonesia I believe without extensive in flight refuelling. F-35 is stealthy but the tankers sure aren’t.
Jeremiah
7 Dec 12 at 8:45 pm
“What’s driving the unit price up is the reduction in numbers.”
Bollocks. What’s driving up the price is the inherently flawed process of modifying the design while building the aircraft.
“there are huge incentives to pour good money after bad”
Yes, good point. The distributed pork-barrelling construction is a factor there.
“a superlative combat aircraft at a reasonable cost given the terrible project system”
I disagree, particularly about the cost, but also about ‘superlative’ from Australia’s strategic POV.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 8:47 pm
Harsh but fair MK50.
However i thought about including aircraft from Russia & China, i don’t know enough abpout the Russian J33 or the Chinese J15. (same same anyway)
I will add one to the mix, an aircraft that is slow, difficult to fly and difficult to land but has a killer weapons platform and will always be an iconic aircraft, the Harrier jump Jet. A very handsome aircraft.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 8:51 pm
Zoe Arnold was media advisor to former New South Wales Health Minister John Della Bosca, until he resigned after becoming embroiled in a sex scandal. Before that she was National Media Officer at Transport Workers Union of Australia, so she would have had some inkling as to the sort of man she was marrying. Consequently she deserves little sympathy, especially if reports that the couple rorted a first home buyer’s grant are true.
Cold-Hands
7 Dec 12 at 8:52 pm
That was a staple when my father was a child, he still has a great love of fried bread, with crispy bacon and a runny egg.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 8:54 pm
Is Star Trek the one with Jar Jar Binks or Buzz Lightyear?
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 8:57 pm
Okay, my weekend is officially over. Killing Joke were one of my favourites.
Start with this.
Bugger that’s depressing.
nilk
7 Dec 12 at 9:03 pm
Ah the Spitfire – you never forget the sight and sound of a Spitfire – what a legend.
Tintarella di Luna
7 Dec 12 at 9:03 pm
Is this a segue into a discussion of the lack of home smallgoods slicers?
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 9:07 pm
No it ain’t!
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:09 pm
Dumbass, it’s the one with Yoda FFS.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:10 pm
that’s just an incendiary comment!
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 9:11 pm
I saw one up close at the Scone Airshow in i think 1998 or 99, they are a tiny plane (much to my suprise), but absolutely amazing in flight.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:13 pm
Freaking savages.
Sinclair Davidson
7 Dec 12 at 9:17 pm
No. The Spitfire’s brash, upstart American cousin – the fighter that changed the course of the air war in Europe from ’42 on…
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:18 pm
My bad, it is the one with the Wookies.
Happy now?
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:19 pm
Jarrah:
That’s a factor, yes, but which cost are you talking about? The ‘unit price’ is normally thought of in fly-away cost terms, and that’s more affected by the size of teh production run. Are you talking about development or through-life costs?
Bear in mind that “the inherently flawed process of modifying the design while building the aircraft” is something actually driven by poor risk management at the front end of the process, and is the mechanism by which teh contractor transfers the cost of the government’s poor risk definition and managment systems back on to the government.
Now THAT issue is structural, and it is politically driven. It is not the fault of the military or of the contractor, responsibility for it lies with those who refuse to use modern project management processes because of the political risk it involves. (cough A-12 Avenger cough). The reason Grumman never even submitted a bid for A-12? They were convinced the politically-mandated development structure led to unacceptable levels of developmental risk…..
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:22 pm
{on bended knee} Dear God, how do you expect me to soar with the eagles when you surround me with turkeys? Yours, Doomlord.
Sinclair Davidson
7 Dec 12 at 9:22 pm
Agree 100% Rabz.
The best fighter of the war.
And the most beautiful aircraft of all time.
jupes
7 Dec 12 at 9:25 pm
Yes true, it changes the war especially because the wing shape was suited to ground attack and the motor had a shit load more power and didn’t have a carby.
But nothing will ever match the clean lines, sleek styling and sheer awesomeness, nay, iconic status that is the Spitfire.
10 million schoolboys building 20 million Airfix kits can’t be wrong. (I made those numbers up)
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:26 pm
jar jar meat
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:28 pm
More jar jar non-fans
Mk50 of Brisbane
7 Dec 12 at 9:30 pm
And it was the first fighter that could escort US bombers all the way to Germany.
Nope. Mustang 1, Spitfire 2.
jupes
7 Dec 12 at 9:30 pm
Oops, had to do a bit of checking.
So Star Trek, that would be the Mobile Infantry, they were the guys shooting the bugs, you know the giant insects.
“Would You Like to Know More?”
Am i Right.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:31 pm
Fixed.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:32 pm
Hey. Starship Troopers is a good film under rated.
Next you’ll throw in an Alien reference and all hell will break out.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 9:35 pm
FFS, the allies originally retrofitted Merlins to them, which is when their combination of sheer beauty and brutal performance was realised…
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:37 pm
“that’s more affected by the size of teh production run.”
They’re not independent factors. The reductions in the production run were due to cost increases. It’s a vicious circle.
“It is not the fault of the military or of the contractor”
I agree. However, regardless of where the blame lays, the end result is that the JSF project is a disaster compared to previous generations and Australia should withdraw ASAP. Maybe get some Sukhoi variant so we at least match Indonesia rather than face possible embarrassment in joint exercises (because, let’s face it, actual war is a far-off prospect).
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 9:38 pm
Sorry checked again, they had a dude with pointy ears.
Didn’t the hobbits already cover that base? Who the hell is Dr Spock the Hobbit? Frodos clever cousin, bastard son, adopted brother.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:38 pm
Aliens is one of the few (if only) sequels that is better than the original.
Sinclair Davidson
7 Dec 12 at 9:38 pm
You’re annoying me, Carpe.
Gab
7 Dec 12 at 9:40 pm
Really? Didn’t know that.
Never to old to learn new things, ta Rabz.
They will never have the beauty of the spit.
We can agree to disagree, but i am right.
Carpe Jugulum
7 Dec 12 at 9:41 pm
Two Towers was better than LOTR…
Incoming!
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:42 pm
Police Academy 4 being the other one.
Infidel Tiger
7 Dec 12 at 9:42 pm
She was also one of Thompsons “advisors” during his first election in 2007.
She rated a “special” mention in his maiden speech to parliament – before he thanked his then (long suffering it would seem) wife.
The next year they had their first kid.
twostix
7 Dec 12 at 9:43 pm
It massively transformed their high altitude performance as well as their range.
That’s why they were such a game changer.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:45 pm
No, Carpes.
There are few better judges of Aesthetics on this planet (or in it’s history) than my good self, pardon the modesty.
Rabz
7 Dec 12 at 9:48 pm
Dead right on Aliens Sinc.
There is a youtube floating around of Hudson. It shows the bits where he speaks. It really tracks the movie (till he dies).
Link.
DaveF
7 Dec 12 at 9:48 pm
“Aliens is one of the few (if only) sequels that is better than the original.”
Racking my brain to think of another.
…
……
Got one! Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
Jarrah
7 Dec 12 at 9:49 pm
Meh, i’ll get over it Gab.
If you like we can go back to the pizza discussion or invite