Tuesday update: Same story from Newspoll.
Gillard (mid session): “The worst is over”.
Coalition up, ALP and Greens down, Gillard approval down. Even John Quiggin got some joy from the poll (see link down page).
UPDATE: Interesting to see how John Quiggin picked up a different message from the poll (down the bottom re ownership of power plants). What about a few more “Like” votes for my comments, I can only vote once you know!
STOP PRESS: Don’t miss Grannie Sloan’s column in The Australian.
Update: The 2PP courtesy of Mark the Ballot.
The % that makes me most happy is to see the green slime numbers down again.
JC
10 Dec 12 at 9:52 pm
So, no significant change for months.
So, if we not risking claims of a death threat, what should I wait on my verandah for that is more emphatic than a baseball bat?*
Suggestions welcome.
*This mob make me miss Keating. At least he had some style, not like this lot (shudders remembering the Roxon Christmas ‘message’).
entropy
10 Dec 12 at 9:56 pm
But mOnty and SfB told me that Gillard was ascendant and the double fist pumping misogynist truckie was finsished?
Infidel Tiger
10 Dec 12 at 9:59 pm
FME. The LNP have got to do something about Katter. Make him overreach into a more overt socialism. It cant be people wanting to vote for those two dicks in NSW.
entropy
10 Dec 12 at 10:00 pm
No complacency! Everything is going pear-shaped and still the ALP vote does not collapse into the 20s.
Poor Old Rafe
10 Dec 12 at 10:07 pm
With Labor eliminated in Qld, to get a diversity of representation, the people have to go somewhere. Bound to happen at what 78-7 ?
Got to have options. If Labor collapses, there will be something to fill the gap.
Driftforge
10 Dec 12 at 10:11 pm
Thank you Santa!
Leigh Lowe
10 Dec 12 at 10:13 pm
Votes don’t come cheap, and Gillard has borrowed heavily to keep the bribes coming. Can’t see how labor preference can remain above 30 otherwise.
And beautiful numbers for the Greens – may the trend continue.
Keith
10 Dec 12 at 10:16 pm
Jeez …. When I saw the headline “Nice Numbers” I thought I must have come to the wrong place.
“Surely the Returned Potato Peeler hasn’t had an attitude implant?” I thought.
Sadly, no.
Leigh Lowe
10 Dec 12 at 10:20 pm
There is a god after all…Brian4jesus come back….all is forgiven!
Anne
10 Dec 12 at 10:21 pm
Even better, Newspoll has broken out of its pro Labor funk and bounced back to 54-46!
MDMConnell
10 Dec 12 at 10:31 pm
yeah, but that was only because the previous newspoll numbers were wrong. I wonder if this is the first election the polls don’t change right up to election day?
entropy
10 Dec 12 at 10:34 pm
Mk50 of Brisbane
10 Dec 12 at 10:42 pm
Hmm.
Odd.
Mk50 of Brisbane
10 Dec 12 at 10:43 pm
Oh, I give up then.
Stupid intarwebs
Mk50 of Brisbane
10 Dec 12 at 10:43 pm
I think it was our household that changed the figures. They always ask if there’s anyone under the age of 30 to answer the survey. The spouse and I don’t qualify, but our son, 29, is home on R&R after breaking his ankle at work in the Qld gas fields. I handed the phone to him, he’s a rabid Gillard hater, and gave it his all.
mareeS
10 Dec 12 at 10:51 pm
Which makes me think they will dump the lying slapper into the new year. Why wouldn’t they if she’s seen to be considered toxic by the electorate?
JC
10 Dec 12 at 10:53 pm
“and still the ALP vote does not collapse into the 20s”
Look at the voter behaviour question, Rafe. For the Labor primary vote to go to the 20s means not only every swinging voter choosing the Libs, but the Libs also winning over people who have never voted Lib before.
As it stands, over a quarter of the current Liberal vote are swinging voters, most of whom the party has held onto for over two years now.
2dogs
10 Dec 12 at 10:55 pm
JC, of course.
Gillard will be dumped if she continues this epic, history-making run of fail.
That is inevitable.
C.L.
10 Dec 12 at 11:40 pm
I said before, it’s not a nice number until the alp vote is in the twenties.
brc
10 Dec 12 at 11:42 pm
Unless she calls a snap election to force the troops to rally behind her. How did Milton put it? “Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven”. The problem of the House of Reps elections falling out of sync with the senate if an election is called before August 2013 would see the Abbott Government having to deal with the current Upper House, with all the attendant problems of dealing with the Greens.
Cold-Hands
10 Dec 12 at 11:44 pm
The coalition now want to see it through until August or they fall prey to an unfriendly senate. To be honest , another 6 months don’t matter now. It’s doubtful labor is going to turn the corner with more cash promises on the never never with their surplus promise in tatters.
brc
10 Dec 12 at 11:56 pm
Newspoll out: Gillard dumped.
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 12:02 am
Beat me to it by 30 secs, CL. If only I hadn’t refreshed before posting. Drat! Foiled again.
Gab
11 Dec 12 at 12:04 am
Heh heh.
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 12:07 am
Nice to see that Newspoll has sacked John McTernan’s cousin from its survey team too.
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 12:08 am
So 1% of Greens voters decided they couldn’t vote Labor or Liberal and turned Independent in a week? It shows the Green voters really have no idea who they’ve been supporting all this time.
Puff Of Smoke
11 Dec 12 at 12:08 am
Hamish McSporran will be choking on his haggis. Trying to sell Gillard is like trying to shift toxic waste.
H B Bear
11 Dec 12 at 12:10 am
Katter and others have the only partially sensible gun policy in the country which is where quite a few of those “other” primary votes are going.
twostix
11 Dec 12 at 12:25 am
Julie Bishop in two weeks single handedly utterly destroyed months of carefully crafted Gillard / PMO’s office / Cabinet / ABC / Press Gallery “Abbott is a Mysogynist” narrative construction.
You’d think Gillard would be considering how utterly hopeless she is by now given that this is at least the tenth Grand Narrative that has failed.
twostix
11 Dec 12 at 12:36 am
Unfortunately I work with a bunch of lefties that blindly listen to whatever the ABC and Crikey tell them. According to them Bishop is a joke flogging the dead horse. Makes for a very uncomfortable work day.
Puff Of Smoke
11 Dec 12 at 12:45 am
Breaking: Gillard has won one of the polls!
It’s the prestigious Fairfax Media Daily Life website poll!
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 12:49 am
As of right now Gillards one single moment of Prime Ministerial “truimph” is that she was briefly mentioned on the front page of Jezebel.com alongside a story about anal fingering.
twostix
11 Dec 12 at 1:25 am
It’s important for rational people everywhere to keep that in mind.
sdog
11 Dec 12 at 1:59 am
Yes, Katter is good in some areas IMO, he seems a God and guns sort of guy.
Chris M
11 Dec 12 at 2:14 am
Pickering has Julia by the throat.
His cartoons are street sweepers.
“allowing Tony Abbott to edge closer as the nation’s preferred prime minister.” 20 seats is some ‘edging’.
Alfonso
11 Dec 12 at 5:49 am
What a hideous bunch of Emily Listers in that Daily Life poll. Says everything about the kind of narrow minded bigots who would vote in such a poll.
johno
11 Dec 12 at 6:36 am
Don’t get too excited; the automatice enrollment amendments to the Electoral Act will save the day for Labor.
Brett
11 Dec 12 at 6:48 am
I suspect the Christmas dinner for Oakeshott, Windsor and ALP members sitting on margins of less than 5% will be a glum affair.
Except for Kevin-07 …. he will have his best “cat-got-the-cream” face on.
Leigh Lowe
11 Dec 12 at 6:50 am
Unbelievable that the Slapper-in-Chief is still pumping up her own tyres over the misogyny speech.
That was the point that the Opposition decided that the gloves were off and started to hold the lying grub to account for her part in the AWU scandal.
Is it still “game on”?
Leigh Lowe
11 Dec 12 at 6:55 am
Look at how news.com.au puts it:
“Labor would surprisingly lose election now”
WTF? What rock have they been under since the minority government was formed? Who is seriously surprised, a good day ruined almost immediately.
http://www.news.com.au/national/labor-would-surprisingly-lose-election-now-latest-newspoll/story-fncynjr2-1226534076441
Adam Diver
11 Dec 12 at 7:12 am
Those are brave words, right there…
Dr Faustus
11 Dec 12 at 8:44 am
The economy might have something to do with it. It is difficult for many to make ends meet, price of food high and job security/enough hours troubling. The NDIS etc, where’s the money coming from.
candy
11 Dec 12 at 9:21 am
Get ready for lots of Kevin in the media over the summer. The little master will be churning out papers, thought pieces and commentary as fast as he can go – plus his trademark folksy-nerdy, uncommon man of the people schtick wherever there is a TV camera.
He knows he has his last hurrah in the Autumn session, before Labor disappears under a rock for the next 15 years.
Dr Faustus
11 Dec 12 at 10:36 am
Julia will be PM until the next federal election- because nobody else will want such a poisoned position! Then, Kevin might be re-appointed, though the number of people who worked with him up close and couldn’t stand it seems to show Labor might go for someone else. Perhaps Swan will be the one they put forward to lead whatever is left of Labor.
Nuke Gray
11 Dec 12 at 10:45 am
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 10:46 am
What? No m0nty in here to comment about Newspoll now matching the Essential (and Galaxy) polling figures? SfB? SteveC?
Still waiting for the spin-meister approved talking points and “AbbottAbbottAbbott” meme from ALP HQ and GetUp obviously…
Brian of Moorabbin
11 Dec 12 at 10:58 am
Just listened to Tony Wright being interviewed by ABC Radio 891 Adelaide – all Wright would talk about is the ‘electorate dismay’ with Campbell Newman of Qld. And that this would translate to effect AbbottAbbottAbbott in the forthcoming Fed Election.
Will not accept that Gillard is a lying manipulative communist
Mike of Marion
11 Dec 12 at 10:59 am
Torrent of mud, says Emmo!
A phrase perfectly suited for this government’s veritable diarrhea of disaster.
The ABC is shellshocked. This is reportage:
Abbott did not “tone down” his language about the proven crimes of Slushgate nor did he “distance himself” from Bishop’s brilliant attack on the Lying Rodent.
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 11:01 am
Not that I’m any legal expert, but I believe there is no penalty for inventing survey results. I’m sure a lot of people do.
Tel
11 Dec 12 at 11:03 am
Anyone wants to see an example of a “torrent of mud” they need look no further than Emerson’s copious tweets. (Does he actually do any work?)
Gab
11 Dec 12 at 11:05 am
Truth is a defence… Besides, everybody loves Grannies.
Cold-Hands
11 Dec 12 at 11:06 am
The misogynist speech was a torrent of mud.
candy
11 Dec 12 at 11:08 am
In a way the LNP in Queensland are illustrating one of the problems of a massive landslide. You then become your own Opposition because there is no cohesive force on the outside of Government and you start infighting. We have pile-a-chuck and Skatt-er for an Opposition, is it any wonder the LNP have to do it (Opposition) themselves.
Paul
11 Dec 12 at 11:27 am
The lnp in Queensland at the state level still have some seriously ordinary national party leftovers. I personally think some of these guys should consider joining katter and his merry band of rural socialists. Sure, there gun policies might be more appealing to a man on the land, but their trade ideas are seriously bad news.
brc
11 Dec 12 at 11:39 am
Katter is mad as a cut snake but it’s good having him in the mix. He detests the LNP though and would work with Labor toward protectionism in the first instance. On the upside, his main effect will be to erode Labor’s base in QLD as he promises handouts, subsidies and economic regulation without the latte-leftism.
John Mc
11 Dec 12 at 12:00 pm
Ace quote from Abbott that this government is like a bad tenant who is trashing the place before they are evicted.
Viva
11 Dec 12 at 12:15 pm
I’m surprised that they’re surprised.
Although the last poll was a 50:50 dodgy so this is a shift from that.
And sub-editors love words like “shock”, “surprise” and “jolt”.
Words like “routine”, “expected” and “predictable” are not in their lexicon.
Leigh Lowe
11 Dec 12 at 12:37 pm
Katter is an old-style agrarian socialist.
If you scratch the surface you will not be able to distinguish hime from any regular green-scheme rorter or automotive union hack.
Leigh Lowe
11 Dec 12 at 12:39 pm
Katter has been on the public tit since 1974.
I kid you not.
C.L.
11 Dec 12 at 1:02 pm
With the Green vote continuing to shrink how long will it be before Rhiannon decides to have a go at knocking Milne off her perch.
Lew
11 Dec 12 at 1:36 pm
The problem with these figures is that it could lead to LNP complacency. Even worse, it may scare Labor from a March/April election, and they will hang on for grim death until October/November next year.
Jannie
11 Dec 12 at 1:38 pm
This would be a gift. A communist traitor in charge.
.
11 Dec 12 at 1:39 pm
It would make them the same as Labor then …
pete m
11 Dec 12 at 1:42 pm
The worst possible outcome for Abbott is if Julia IS dumped. I know they don’t have many “shiny new toys” to bring into the leadership but even a random person could do better than Julia. Due credit to Abbott and team but you’d have to worry (a little)….don’t unwrap your presents till September!!!
Lysander Spooner
11 Dec 12 at 1:53 pm
If Swan is PM…the ALP primary vote will go below 20%.
He’s an unhinged, drooling, bucket mouthed, ratchet jawed, mouth breathing imbecile.
.
11 Dec 12 at 1:56 pm
No, but the Labor Caucus will!
Just ask Kevin.
BM
11 Dec 12 at 1:57 pm
And here comes the rubbish truck:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/tony-abbott-defends-his-position-on-abortion-after-criticism-from-blogger/story-fndo48ca-1226534394400
Next they’ll quote Abbott saying “100,000 abortions a year in Australia is a tradgedy.”
Lysander Spooner
11 Dec 12 at 2:01 pm
Abbot looks pretty good in that, really.
.
11 Dec 12 at 2:06 pm
Pretty creepy that an abortion fanatic runs a blog dedicated to “mummies”.
Infidel Tiger
11 Dec 12 at 2:11 pm
Wowser, I would love Wayne Swan to knife Jools in the back and become PM, with Bill Shorten pledging undying support. A postmodernist morality tale. I would prefer Craig Thomson, but you gotta be realistic about his numbers.
Jannie
11 Dec 12 at 2:18 pm
This latest McTernan tactic – Mammamia, gillard and the inevitable abortion schtick – is straight out of the Obama campaign 2012 tactical playbook.
Gab
11 Dec 12 at 2:24 pm
And as such, more than qualified to be handed the Labor leadership.
brc
11 Dec 12 at 2:35 pm
Google News headline that MPs are worried. Good. They deserve her
Mike of Marion
11 Dec 12 at 2:52 pm
Exactly.
It won’t help though, just like the last twenty clever attempts didn’t help.
If they do want to talk about abortion though lets talk about Gillard founding a group whose central purpose was to stack the ALP with women who support abortions for any reason up until birth.
twostix
11 Dec 12 at 3:03 pm
Here’s my favourite Xmas pressie:
-Abbott as first Catholic PM since Chifley;
-Malcolm as Treasurer (just to tease the lefties into thinking there’d be a leadership spill at some point);
-Barnaby Joyce (in the House o’ Reps) as Speaker!
-Poor old Rafe as Governor General.
Lysander Spooner
11 Dec 12 at 3:04 pm
Its an Egyptian thing Infidel….
Lysander Spooner
11 Dec 12 at 3:05 pm
Maybe Barnaby would be too fair,too even handed for the job.I’d like to see Bronwyn Bishop in the chair,she knows the rule book backwards and has a healthy hatred of Socialist scum.
Lew
11 Dec 12 at 3:21 pm
Lysander I have always thought putting Turnbull in as shadow Treasurer made good sense, it would force him to be more responsible, and put his idle hands to work, so to speak. Joe Hockey would look better in Defence, God knows they’re going to need a good bloke after being beggared by Labor, he may be convinced to do it for the team. I sure have not heard much of David Johnston, and he lives just around the corner from me.
Jannie
11 Dec 12 at 3:22 pm
Poor poppets…and they wonder how the rest of us feel knowing the alliance has another 10 or so months left to totally trash the joint.
Token
11 Dec 12 at 3:39 pm
I agree Jannie. He’s a businessman (successful), he’s suave, smart and competetive in that I’m sure he’d like to steal Costello’s award.
Poor old Joe….he’s nice and he probably deserves it but Turnbull’s nice and he’s not leader….Mick Jagger: “you get what you need.”
Lysander Spooner
11 Dec 12 at 4:01 pm
Barnaby should be foreign minister but for to spite the handbag hitsquad et al.
.
11 Dec 12 at 4:03 pm
Maybe Nigel Scullion?
Driftforge
11 Dec 12 at 7:28 pm
Everyone laughs at him because he’s such a moron.
JC
11 Dec 12 at 7:32 pm
“Katter has been on the public tit since 1974.”
And his father before him.
That Newspoll did my crusty old heart good this morning.
My fantasy is John Howard as GG, Bronwyn Bishop as Speaker and for Amanda Vanstone to be lured back.
And I hadn’t thought of Joe Hockey as Defence Minister, but I think whoever suggested it is spot on. He would be great in that portfolio.
Tracey
11 Dec 12 at 8:16 pm
You forgot “knuckle dragging and banjo playing yokel”
Leigh Lowe
11 Dec 12 at 8:39 pm
It looks like some flubber has leaked out of Gillard’s dead cat bounce’s arse.
No ammount of flubber McSporran tries to shove up this dead cat’s arse will make it bounce again.
Splatacrobat
11 Dec 12 at 11:32 pm
Nice of Lysander to nominate me for the GG gig, as it happens Lower Neutral Bay is adjacent to Kiribilli so I could walk to work from home. The big house would be open for Cats and members of the Austalian school of economics anytime they pass through the harbour city. Just give 24 hrs notice and access via ferry from Circular Quay to the first stop on the Neutral Bay run. Or stroll from Milsons Point station on the northern line.
Rafe
12 Dec 12 at 8:11 am
That’s an insult to the Freshwater faction. Take the E50 or drive to the viceregal palace…
.
12 Dec 12 at 11:40 am
Thank you Anne it’s nice to be forgiven, I was sure you would come around. Now, if I can get Dottie too loosen up a little, I will be fully restored.The polls, I think they are absolutely fantastic. You have to hand it to Tony and Peta, the drive down the Pacific HWY was totally inspiring and ticked all the boxes. It was a total success despite being drowned out to some extent by the MSM obsession with the prank phone call.
Brian4Jesus
12 Dec 12 at 11:59 am
Blowjobs for Jebus…
You are literally the worst troll to have ever existed.
You are like New Coke promoted by Comical Ali, and laced with strychnine.
.
12 Dec 12 at 12:15 pm