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		<title>By: sdog</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/25/tuesday-forum-december-25-2012/comment-page-11/#comment-683644</link>
		<dc:creator>sdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hitch-hiked into Vail on a mate&#039;s bizjet - &lt;a href=&quot;http://goo.gl/maps/DCOcW&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jeezum &lt;/a&gt;that&#039;s a hell of an approach.

Be good, people.  Have an excellent New Year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitch-hiked into Vail on a mate&#8217;s bizjet &#8211; <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/DCOcW" rel="nofollow">jeezum </a>that&#8217;s a hell of an approach.</p>
<p>Be good, people.  Have an excellent New Year.</p>
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		<title>By: Splatacrobat</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/25/tuesday-forum-december-25-2012/comment-page-11/#comment-683582</link>
		<dc:creator>Splatacrobat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/mi6-codebreaker-gareth-williams-probably-locked-himself-into-sports-bag/story-fnd12peo-1226544342931&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MI6 codebreaker found naked and dead inside a sports bag.&lt;/a&gt; 

Westminster Coroner, Dr Fiona Wilcox, said earlier this year she could not rule out the involvement of the security services in the death.

Detectives had believed that someone else must have locked the codebreaker in the bag and launched a search for a mysterious Mediterranean couple, who were later ruled out of inquiries.
Detectives now believe he probably died alone, The Telegraph reports.

In her ruling, Dr Wilcox said there was no evidence to suggest the spy was a transvestite &quot;or interested in any such thing&quot;. 

Even though.............
1.He had been found in his boxer shorts and tied to his bed by his landlord and landlady in Cheltenham a few years earlier.

2.Video footage found on a mobile phone in the deceased&#039;s flat showed Williams dressed in nothing but black leather boots as he &quot;wiggled and gyrated&quot; for the camera.

3.He browsed self-bondage websites and sites about claustrophilia - the love of enclosure - on his computers and phone and was looking at fetish websites days before his death.

4.He also kept pictures of drag queens on his computer and had 20,000 pounds ($31,000) worth of designer women&#039;s clothing in his apartment as well as women’s shoes and wigs.

The coroner said it remained a &quot;legitimate line of inquiry&quot; that the secret services were involved in Williams&#039;s death although there was no firm evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/mi6-codebreaker-gareth-williams-probably-locked-himself-into-sports-bag/story-fnd12peo-1226544342931" rel="nofollow">MI6 codebreaker found naked and dead inside a sports bag.</a> </p>
<p>Westminster Coroner, Dr Fiona Wilcox, said earlier this year she could not rule out the involvement of the security services in the death.</p>
<p>Detectives had believed that someone else must have locked the codebreaker in the bag and launched a search for a mysterious Mediterranean couple, who were later ruled out of inquiries.<br />
Detectives now believe he probably died alone, The Telegraph reports.</p>
<p>In her ruling, Dr Wilcox said there was no evidence to suggest the spy was a transvestite &#8220;or interested in any such thing&#8221;. </p>
<p>Even though&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
1.He had been found in his boxer shorts and tied to his bed by his landlord and landlady in Cheltenham a few years earlier.</p>
<p>2.Video footage found on a mobile phone in the deceased&#8217;s flat showed Williams dressed in nothing but black leather boots as he &#8220;wiggled and gyrated&#8221; for the camera.</p>
<p>3.He browsed self-bondage websites and sites about claustrophilia &#8211; the love of enclosure &#8211; on his computers and phone and was looking at fetish websites days before his death.</p>
<p>4.He also kept pictures of drag queens on his computer and had 20,000 pounds ($31,000) worth of designer women&#8217;s clothing in his apartment as well as women’s shoes and wigs.</p>
<p>The coroner said it remained a &#8220;legitimate line of inquiry&#8221; that the secret services were involved in Williams&#8217;s death although there was no firm evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Cold-Hands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cold-Hands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bright and shiny &lt;a href=&quot;http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/29/open-forum-december-29-2012/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new fred&lt;/a&gt;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bright and shiny <a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/29/open-forum-december-29-2012/" rel="nofollow">new fred</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Gab</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/25/tuesday-forum-december-25-2012/comment-page-11/#comment-683567</link>
		<dc:creator>Gab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well where the heck do they think pork comes from?

The outrageously outraged:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Angry Amazon book reviews: “This is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://prickwithafork.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/judging-a-book-by-its-cover-or-why-militant-veggos-suck/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;most disgusting cover&lt;/a&gt; and should be taken out from any book display … The cover of this book is absolutely disgusting, revolting and insensitive … I don’t think I can hold it in my hand without cringing, and I cannot imagine the ‘book’ being displayed where young children are present.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

via Tim Blair

Gosh! Imagine if the book was about whale recipes!! Sushi anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well where the heck do they think pork comes from?</p>
<p>The outrageously outraged:</p>
<blockquote><p>Angry Amazon book reviews: “This is the <a href="http://prickwithafork.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/judging-a-book-by-its-cover-or-why-militant-veggos-suck/" rel="nofollow">most disgusting cover</a> and should be taken out from any book display … The cover of this book is absolutely disgusting, revolting and insensitive … I don’t think I can hold it in my hand without cringing, and I cannot imagine the ‘book’ being displayed where young children are present.” </p></blockquote>
<p>via Tim Blair</p>
<p>Gosh! Imagine if the book was about whale recipes!! Sushi anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Is a silly statement,&lt;/blockquote&gt;


No it isn&#039;t. You&#039;re unable to come up with a coherent argument, which is why you rely on this sort of crap posing as a line of argument.


 &lt;blockquote&gt;as is a later one by the same person claiming that every dollar of public expenditure is a drag on the economy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sport, if you believe that, go and live somewhere where these things are not an issue – Somalia, or perhaps West Irian.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here we go, the old leftie chestnut that Libertarians/free market types hanker for Somalia. It&#039;s a like non-stop express to Stupidville.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The question is about balance and priorities, unless you want to give up legally enforceable property and personal safety rights.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you want &quot;balance&quot; get a scale or otherwise STFU Johanna as you&#039;re not making an argument. You&#039;re sermonizing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is a silly statement,</p></blockquote>
<p>No it isn&#8217;t. You&#8217;re unable to come up with a coherent argument, which is why you rely on this sort of crap posing as a line of argument.</p>
<blockquote><p>as is a later one by the same person claiming that every dollar of public expenditure is a drag on the economy.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sport, if you believe that, go and live somewhere where these things are not an issue – Somalia, or perhaps West Irian.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here we go, the old leftie chestnut that Libertarians/free market types hanker for Somalia. It&#8217;s a like non-stop express to Stupidville.</p>
<blockquote><p>The question is about balance and priorities, unless you want to give up legally enforceable property and personal safety rights.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you want &#8220;balance&#8221; get a scale or otherwise STFU Johanna as you&#8217;re not making an argument. You&#8217;re sermonizing.</p>
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		<title>By: johanna</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/25/tuesday-forum-december-25-2012/comment-page-11/#comment-683560</link>
		<dc:creator>johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There isn’t one single government employee producing above cost.&quot;

is a silly statement, as is a later one by the same person claiming that every dollar of public expenditure is a drag on the economy.

Sport, if you believe that, go and live somewhere where these things are not an issue - Somalia, or perhaps West Irian.

The question is about balance and priorities, unless you want to give up legally enforceable property and personal safety rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There isn’t one single government employee producing above cost.&#8221;</p>
<p>is a silly statement, as is a later one by the same person claiming that every dollar of public expenditure is a drag on the economy.</p>
<p>Sport, if you believe that, go and live somewhere where these things are not an issue &#8211; Somalia, or perhaps West Irian.</p>
<p>The question is about balance and priorities, unless you want to give up legally enforceable property and personal safety rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazlo</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/25/tuesday-forum-december-25-2012/comment-page-11/#comment-683557</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;What a nothing comment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Quite so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What a nothing comment.</p></blockquote>
<p>Quite so.</p>
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		<title>By: sdfc</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a nothing comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a nothing comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazlo</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2012/12/25/tuesday-forum-december-25-2012/comment-page-11/#comment-683551</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The left does not understand wealth creation. For them it is in infinite supply, and the only issue is how to &#039;redistribute&#039; it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left does not understand wealth creation. For them it is in infinite supply, and the only issue is how to &#8216;redistribute&#8217; it.</p>
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		<title>By: sdfc</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdfc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Explain to me how private sector monopolies maximise consumer surplus again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain to me how private sector monopolies maximise consumer surplus again.</p>
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