Is that person really like me?

The explanations for the electoral tsunami that is going to hit the ALP later this year will keep Australia’s scholars busy for years with necking Kevin Rudd, the waste of the stimulus programmes and other fiascos big and small all set to be given their due.

The real reason in my opinion however is the carbon tax, which while it might have dropped off the radar for certain Canberra journalist is still, in the words of a Labor official “killing us” all around Australia.

What the carbon tax and kicking tens of thousands of women onto the dole both create in the minds of many Australians is the impression that the ALP is not on their side. A tax to fix roads, to pay for hospitals or to defend our borders might have been sellable.

But putting a tax on electricity bills to indulge an obsession of Northcote Age readers makes a lot of people look at their middle-class Labor MPs – who in some cases needed the Melway to find their electorates when they were handed them by the faction bosses – and ask themselves, is that person really like me?

James Campbell RTWT.

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53 Responses to Is that person really like me?

  1. val majkus

    that link doesn’t work! Looks like an interesting article

  2. Up The Workers!

    Well said.

    The infuriating thing is not just the fact that Juliar and her grossly dishonest party imposed a carbon tax entirely WITHOUT a mandate, after having promised that there would be none, but that the idiotic system they devised, rewards the biggest polluter companies with hundreds of millions of taxpayer-funded dollars, while penalizing non-polluting mums, dads and taxpayers for pollution which they do NOT generate.

    There is zero ‘upside’ to the carbon tax.

    It will not reduce pollution; carbon dioxide is not a pollutant anyway; it won’t reduce the earth’s temperature by a single degree; and the religious cranks of the Greens, have not been mollified by it’s imposition.

    The A.L.P. have failed every test for the imposition of this idiotic and pointless tax, and when Wayne Swan constructed his mining resource tax, he couldn’t manage to generate a single cent of revenue from it.

    It beggars belief that out of 100 million of his father’s sperm, Wayne Swan was once (but ONLY once) actually the quickest!

  3. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Just opened in new tab, Val and it worked fine.

    Good article. The comments are very good too, as the usual greenfilth-ALP partisans get a thorough cluebatting.

  4. Cold-Hands

    Try the same article at the Herald-Sun, although you don’t get the comments you get at the Punch..

  5. Myrddin Seren

    is that person really like me?

    No – because they don’t think of themselves as being a part of ‘you’ ( and most definitely not like 99% of the Catallaxians ).

    Gillard’s famous – or infamous – Whitlam oration made that clear:

    The Greens will never embrace Labor’s delight at sharing the values of everyday Australians….

    There is Labor

    There are ‘everyday Australians’

    The two are statedly not the same. The political class we have bred most definitely considers itself apart, and probably superior.

    I note Julia Eileen’s rapturous joy in sharing the values of we plebs – but she makes it clear there is a them and there is, well, people who got to shopping malls and ask her tough questions some times.

    ( BTW – this is the same Julia Eileen whose office organised a race riot to defame a political opponent – I for one object to her equating her values with my values )

    I wish I could find Christopher Pearson’s column in The Australian on this – it seems to have disappeared into reaches of the internet I cannot easily find.

    My recollection is he both skewered her on this speech, which he felt she went off the reservation and largely wrote herself ( Real Julia ) plus the history of that appalling Slater and Gordon house accent she adopted ( Faux Julia ). It was a great column that I regret now not saving.

  6. Abbott could have a lot of fun with this…

    “There will always be a taxpayer funded ABC under the government I lead”

    Then defund it after the election…

  7. Mk50 of Brisbane

    heh. he could indeed, Forester.

    keep the rural radio as the ABC and privatise the rest.

    Hysterical and blubbering Canberra gallery presstitute: “But you said ‘There will always be a taxpayer funded ABC under the government I lead’ youdidyoudidyoudidyoudid you LIAR!!”

    TA: “I did not lie, there is a taxpayer funded ABC, the rural radio network. We just sold off the luvvie-centrals to help pay down labour’s gargantuan public debt.”

    Hysterical and blubbering Canberra gallery presstitute: (now sobbing brokenly while searching for the comfort of a Greens senator or an ALP opposition member to [proactive snip - shall we just say it involved kneepads and suction]) lickspittlerunningdogimperialistwarmonger! By Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Holy Gaia I curse thee! The Comrades will get you, you counter-revolutionary! You bloatedplutocratexploiteroftheproletariat!”

  8. C.L.

    The Labor Party implemented a tax whose purpose was to encoolen the earth.

    Think about that.

  9. Just got a letter from my recently renamed energy supplier, Energy Australia to advise that my energy bills will increase from $155 to $225 per month.

    With no explanation for this 45% increase, I assume it represents the cumulative effect of the carbon tax from energy producers via distributors, through to energy users.

    Is this 45% increase a mistake?. Gillard/Swan asserted that their carbon tax would have such a small impact on Australia’s economy that it would not be measurable.

    Since any thinking person would reject this PR nonsense, we are confronted with another lot of deliberate deceit, that Labor barely attempts to conceal these days.

  10. C.L.

    With no explanation for this 45% increase…

    That’s because commenting on Gillard’s earth cooling tax is now illegal.

  11. Greg James

    Well said.

    The infuriating thing is not just the fact that Juliar and her grossly dishonest party imposed a carbon tax entirely WITHOUT a mandate, after having promised that there would be none, but that the idiotic system they devised, rewards the biggest polluter companies with hundreds of millions of taxpayer-funded dollars, while penalizing non-polluting mums, dads and taxpayers for pollution which they do NOT generate.

    I agree with all you’ve said “Up the Workers!”, but I think you probably have not gone far enough.

    Gillard and her reprehensible coterie of sycophants bet on the ‘Carbon Tax’ being bedded down and their disgraceful about face all being forgotten and forgiven at the next election. They thought it would be a done deal, and that noone would call them on it; even to the extent of that rotten-toothed moron Albanese calling those who sought to protest against it “The Convoy of Incontinents.”

    These vile pricks think that they might get away with it – and their fellow Press Gallery members [Grattan; ole Lemon Face Lenore; Fran Commentator; Fat Boy Farr; and others of their ilk] think they might too.

    The polls at various stages even seem to have supported this. Every time Gillard appears in mortal danger of being knifed, which seems to occur every couple of months out comes another very convenient Newspoll which shows her within striking distance.

    Absolute and complete and utter bullshit!

    This current government is going to be utterly obliterated at the next election, and deservedly so.

    My only regret is that we don’t also vote for who should be members of the Press Gallery!

  12. kae

    I can’t open the link even with trying it in a new tab, window, cutting and pasting won’t work.

  13. And Another Thing

    I reckon the carbon-dioxide tax will be a big factor. But so will the slow recognition of the noose tightening on the words, thoughts and actions of voters and the press.

    The truth will set us free.

  14. Alfonso

    Hee, hee…..

    Australians have many deficiencies in understanding base political intent.
    But Julia’s and Malcolm’s Carbon Dioxide Tax is a straight up crock of faeces.
    And when push comes to shove the single issue Australian BS metre is second to none.

    McTiernan (?) will need to confuse the matter with baby seals asap.

  15. H B Bear

    Gillard was unelectable from the moment she caved in to Green demands for a carbon tax. The only question has been when she will get thrown out.

  16. Borisgodunov

    When we get rid of this mob of tossers,we HAVE to keep Contiual Pressure on the new mob of tossers ,MAKE them Punish glLIARd and her crooked mates ,get rid of the uni clowns out of the unions,jail the Bastards.Force tht pollie s to abolish All pc and un laws,bringin new lawsto give the Power back to the people,make it impossible for professional politicians and political parties to survive .lLetthe country be governed by the People through contiual referenda, No Laws without Real Consent,

  17. Brendan O’Neill in the Tele today:

    Labour looks upon its old support base, the working classes, as a festering blob of drunken, junk-scoffing drones who don’t know what’s good for them. Once, Labour claimed to represent and respect the labouring classes (the clue was in the name); now it has nothing but contempt for those classes, spending the past two decades bombarding them with parenting lessons, tips on how to avoid obesity, anti-booze measures that would have made yesteryear’s Prohibitionists beam with pride, smoking bans, CCTV cameras, ASBOs, bus stops that play Mozart in order to ward off teenage tearaways (because of course poor kids couldn’t possibly dig Mozart), and so on.

    Quite so. RTWT.

  18. And Another Thing

    Yes, sdog, reminds me of the old parody:

    The working class
    Can kiss my arse
    I’m a union
    Chief at last

  19. Entropy

    Reading that article about the ALP’s dysfunction begs the question of what role Tony Abbott is playing.

  20. Helen Armstrong

    Is this the Christopher Pearson article, Myrddin?

    On the matter of the smelly drunken proles, I have been reading ‘The Road to Wigan Pier these last few days and on it, as reported by Sidney Institute Media Sandalista Watch George (born Eric) had this to say

    In his 1937 book The Road to Wigan Pier,
    George Orwell defended “the ordinary
    decent person” against “the intellectual,
    book-trained socialist”. He wrote that the
    latter:
    “… type is drawn, to begin with, entirely from
    the middle class, and from a rootless townbred
    section of that middle class at that. …It
    includes…the foaming denouncers of the
    bourgeoisie, and the more-water-in-yourbeer
    reformers of whom [George Bernard]
    Shaw is the prototype, and the astute young
    social-literary climbers…and all that dreary
    tribe of high-minded women and sandalwearers
    and bearded fruit-juice drinkers
    who come flocking towards the smell of
    ‘progress’ like bluebottles to a dead cat.”

    Back then they did not want to know that the workers smelled or drank, and tried to have this book published (while Eric was at was in Spain) without the offending odoriferous first part, but his wife said ‘no’.

    Now they admit to the smell and want to sanitise it back to their ‘worker ideal’.

  21. NoFixedAddress

    take the filthy stinking ‘gummint’ away.

    the greatest brake to economic well being is a central government.

    eliminate the ato, nbn, centrelink, education…. in fact most of what canberra is supposed to represent.

    accc is just crap.

    name me one government department that actually helps people?

    anyone… just one single government department that actually helps….

  22. JC

    NFA

    All great ideas. Dot and I have discussed it several times and we came up with the proposition that you could remove 90% of the Federal government.

    We thought there was need to for perhaps 3 departments and 100 employees.. tops.

  23. NoFixedAddress

    jc,

    the filth that is supposed to be our ‘gummint’ is outrageous.

    i am proud to be an australian…. no connection with criminals or scum guards that were sent here….

    armed forces to protect us as a collective…. whats the other 2 reasons?

  24. m0nty

    The real reason in my opinion however is the carbon tax, which while it might have dropped off the radar for certain Canberra journalist is still, in the words of a Labor official “killing us” all around Australia.

    The biggest load of crap in a terrible article. “Labor has lost its base”, what tosh. Poll of polls says 48-52. That’s nowhere near an election-winning lead at this early stage.

    There will be a lot of rubbish like this talked up by wingnuts this year as reality dawns on the right that Abbott has been shown up as a bullshit artist on the carbon price, as well as a lot of other issues.

  25. JC

    We thought we need an AG department, NFA and therefore obviously and AG

    Perhaps a treasury department with say 30 people dealing with the limited finances and a couple for dart boards for making forecasts…. Better than now anyways because at least the darts wouldn’t be biased.
    We toyed wit the idea of a foreign minister. But arrived at the conclusion that it could be carried in the PM department using Skype.

    So it would be three deps.

    PM
    AG
    Treasury.

    You can of course contest any of this as I’m open for debate.

  26. johno

    So it would be three deps.

    PM
    AG
    Treasury.

    You can of course contest any of this as I’m open for debate.

    Defence?

    It has got to be one of the core functions of government.

  27. wreckage

    as reality dawns on the right that Abbott has been shown up as a bullshit artist

    And Julia’s the very paragon of straight talk and reliable delivery.

  28. JC

    Johno

    Okay .. Knock out treasury as that shit can be done through the PMs office and add in defense.

    Fine with me.

  29. cohenite

    that Abbott has been shown up as a bullshit artist on the carbon price, as well as a lot of other issues.

    What bullshit is that monty?

  30. NoFixedAddress

    JC

    Have to protest the Treasury and PM stuff.

    AG I will allow, but under sufferance.

    If there was true states rights tasmania would be cast adrift and the commie greens would burn down with their current usless fires.

  31. candy

    Ms Macklin “showed extraordinary political ineptitude”

    That’s for sure. Labor supporters are having a hard time coping with Ms Macklin at the moment. She’s let their team down something shocking …

  32. JC

    No probs NFA,

    If you think we could do without the PMs office… I’m very much open to the idea.

    As i suggested, its a work in progress.

    And yes..about tassie.

  33. Rabz

    Poll of polls says 48-52. That’s nowhere near an election-winning lead at this early stage.

    There will be a lot of rubbish like this talked up by wingnuts this year as reality dawns on the right that Abbott has been shown up as a bullshit artist on the carbon price dioxide tax, as well as a lot of other issues.

    mUttley duly megaphones the latest laybore talking points.

    Great stuff, you poor deluded optimist, you.

  34. Gab

    mUttley duly megaphones the latest laybore talking points.

    He gets ONE prediction right and he thinks he’s the Delphic Oracle

  35. Rabz

    He gets ONE prediction right and he thinks he’s the Delphic Oracle

    That’s his prerogative, Gab.

    However, what goes around, comes around.

  36. Cynic Al

    It has annoyed me that the Oppoxition have harped on the obviuos issues related to the carbon tax such as living costs which while siginificant in the long term were not the most serious negative aspects of this tax. The most significant impact is going to be unemployment. As the higher energy costs bite industry and small business, there will be a steady series off closures, and certain industries such as aluminium and steel and concrete will simply not being investing further so that as existing plants age and close, we will be increasing imports of these products.
    This isnthe slow steady death of Australian industry that Tony and his mates should have focussed on and not the cost of a leg of lamb as Barnaby did!

  37. davey street

    I can’t wait for audio tape to emerge showing what a fraud Gillard is. The carefully contrived and cultivated ocker accent is reportedly nothing like the way she spoke when younger. Maybe the change came in her 30s with the advent of the crooked boyfriend Bruce Wilson from the AWU in WA in the early to mid 1990s when the affair with the then married Wilson occurred. Some of the claims about this guy are jaw-dropping when you go looking. She was with him for four years and it’s just ridiculous for her to claim she didn’t know what he was up to before she met him and they shacked up together. A ‘young and naive’ partner of a Melbourne law firm at age 30 – pull the other one.

  38. JC

    We could declare unilateral unconditional free trade and cut a lot of DFAT.

    What about customs and quarantine?

  39. Tom

    The carefully contrived and cultivated ocker accent is reportedly nothing like the way she spoke when younger.

    I’m intrigued. Bearing in mind belief is one thing and facts are another altogether, can you remember where, when and by whom it was reported?

    I wouldn’t be surprised as so much else about her past has been constructed by her and her sycophants since her ascension.

  40. Arnost

    The Labor Party implemented a tax whose purpose was to encoolen the earth.

    That’s rather clever C.L. I have to steal that!

  41. Honesty

    We just got back from the Gold Coast cleaning out a friends house that they need to sell because things are tough. There was twent years worth of items that went to Life Line, a Women’s Shelter, the men’s shed and th tip. Over the week the rubbish removalists and collectors all said three things. No one has any money, the Government is not helping the economy and by far and away the most prevelent illegal arrivals is a disgrace. The later because they are seen to be helped more than many aged and less fortunate Australians. Everyone of them was an ALP voter that will not vote that way next time and their hatred of Bligh is nothing compared to Gillard. So it’s not a scientific poll but there is a white hot anger just waiting for Election Day.

  42. .

    No.

    Abbot is widely reviled as a misogynist, he can never beat a copetent woman like Gillard and Mal Brough will die of shame and Peter Slipper will become a Special Minister of State, and Thommo will become the Governor General.

  43. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Bo, Dot, no.

    Peter Slipper will beome the Ambassador to Belgium. He’ll get on VERY well with their homosexual PM (they share a taste in bow ties as well as freckle).

    And the Lying Slapper will come out as a mutant orang-hutan who was kidnapped by rogue cosmetic surgeons on crack.

  44. Andrew

    Well, when Gillard goes, at least she has the excuse that she was young and naive when introducing the Carbon Tax…oh wait!

  45. .

    What pisses me off about the carbon tax is she arguably committed tax fraud on the AWURA scandal home and she has the audacity to impose a new tax – which she fucking lied about.

    Then – her slack jawed Treasurer has the temerity and brain damaged ignorance to sledge the US Tea party faction as “fanatics” because they want lower taxes, greater value for money and rationality for spending and balanced budgets as well as more accountability and better governance etc.

  46. Cold-Hands
    The carefully contrived and cultivated ocker accent is reportedly nothing like the way she spoke when younger.

    I’m intrigued. Bearing in mind belief is one thing and facts are another altogether, can you remember where, when and by whom it was reported? I wouldn’t be surprised as so much else about her past has been constructed by her and her sycophants since her ascension.

    From another Christopher Pearson column from 2011.

    ON a lighter note, fresh evidence has come to hand on traditional Labor folkways of the late 1980s from Bob Ellis in his book Suddenly, Last Winter: An Election Diary (Penguin Viking).

    He recalls a dinner with, among others, Bob Carr and the actor Stephen Ramsey. They were discussing Julia Gillard’s accent and Ramsey, who went to the same high school, said: “I never heard a voice like hers in my six years there. We all sounded like Don Dunstan.”

    Carr said: “Gillard’s accent , and I have some knowledge of voice-training, is acquired. It is learned. It is trained. It is the required house accent of Slater & Gordon, solicitors. They all talk like that.”

    Certainly, judging by the Australian Story on Gillard that interviewed her family, neither her parents or sister sound anything like her.

  47. Myrrdin Seren

    Yay

    Thanks to both Helen Armstrong at 2:42 and Cold-Hands above for finding those two Christopher Pearson columns ( which I had conflated as one revealing column ).

    MUST save for posterity.

    In summary – whoever the Real Julia is, it is not even clear whether the present incumbent of The Lodge can find her anymore.

    And I thought the link to Paul Sheehan’s latest column over on the Open Thread has relevance to this topic.

    As parsed by CL

    Driving this process is a self-perpetuating political class which seeks relevance through regulation, of which there is always more, while nothing is ever repealed, so that regulations, the tools of legalism and control, simply multiply and grow.

    So I maintain my thesis, the political class are not like “us” and do not see themselves like “us” – except where there is political advantage in spinning some ‘common touch’.

  48. Jazza

    I read James each Sunday and like a lot of what he says.

    He is obviously too polite to label the other reason we await a “tsunami” that is the widespread antipathy to Gillard herself and the doubting of every word she says, without even naming her murky,unsavoury marital affairs and that AWU past.

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