Bogan-free travel

Tim Blair is right - the future of travel is for the elite and rich to enjoy themselves without having to share a flight with bogans. After all, why shouldn’t David and Kristan Williamson enjoy a trip to Noumea without having to bump up against those nasty average Australians?

The hypocrisy is striking, with all of these carbon evangelists enjoying free travel around the world while preaching for the lesser mortals to restrict their travel. At least the puritans attempted to lead a pious life, often wearing hairshirts. I can’t imagine Al Gore wearing a hairshirt or making any sacrifices to his Carbon God.

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59 Responses to Bogan-free travel

  1. William Bragg

    Another glib, Tim Blair article eulogised on the Cat.

    There is nothing hypocritical in calling for a lower carbon economy while continuing to engage in activities that emit carbon. Note that it is lower, not zero, carbon economy that is being called for.

    There will still be relatively high carbon emitters and relatively low carbon emitters in such an economy – and people’s status in there respects will often be related to their wealth. The test, then, is whether the emissions associated with the activities of Di Caprio, Flannery etc are lower than they would otherwise be; not whether they are zero. If they, as high carbon emitters, have taken steps to reduce their emissions, then they are acting entirely consistently with the call for lower emissions.

    Tim Blair of course does not tackle this issue: he, like lots of right wingers, is simply happy to make what he sees as ‘gotcha’ points. They may impress Cats, but they will be seen for the simplistic shock jock drivel they are by more reflective people.

  2. Abu Chowdah

    Barry Bones! Where have you been? Sore arse?

  3. Samuel J

    Your logic fails you Braggy. Since the world’s population is increasing its emissions, the wealthy must (if they want to contribute) CUT their emissions. Since there is more scope for the wealthy to cut emissions then the poor, they should cut their emissions proportionately more. In fact what we need is a progressive carbon tax to promote such reductions.

  4. Alex

    For these celebrities, lowering their carbon emissions by flying less, using less electricity etc. will always remain a choice, but not for the rest of us.

    Cate Blanchett appeared in that ad campaign where she urged Australians to support a pigovian carbon tax, a key effect of which is to make carbon-intensive activities more expensive so that less people engage in them. However, Cate is a multi-millionaire actress who no matter what the carbon premium is, will always be able to engage in the carbon-intensive activities that she engaged in prior to the tax. Like I said, purely a choice.

    The reduction in carbon emissions that she seeks will partially come from those people who are priced out of the market as a result of the increased cost of carbon-intensive activities. People will be turning off their air conditioners because the cost of living has increased and they can’t afford to run them, not because they are inner city, lefty elitists who have some vague, misguided notion of ‘wanting to do the right thing’.

  5. Abu Chowdah

    I’m all for class based airlines. I’m sick of having to risk bizarre flus from third world hajjis, wafting through the curtain into the front cabin.

  6. In fact what we need is a progressive carbon tax to promote such reductions.

    Quite so.

    In the interests of True Equality and Fairness™, every citizen on earth should be allotted a certain tax-free level of carbon dioxide emissions. Any CO2 they emit over and above that should be taxed at progressively higher levels, so that the Algores and DiCaprios of the world are truly paying Their Fair Share™.

    CARBON JUSTICE NOW!! You Know It Makes Sense.

  7. nilk

    The targets of the Modern Liberal are only contradictory if one starts with the supposition that the Modern Liberal cares about income equality. Once one recognizes that theirs is a war against the people of God and science who do things and make things – and the practices, values, and beliefs that have evolved over time from their individual and collective experiences – the contradictions all disappear. Suddenly the absence of protesters outside the halls of rhetoric make perfect sense, as does the seeming contradiction of multimillionaire movie starts and other one-percenters identifying themselves with a cause that claims to be against rich people.

    [snip para]

    Instead, though, Gore remains a god of the “environmental” movement and the Democratic Party. How is one to explain this seeming contradiction? By rethinking the supposition. Once one recognizes that the “environmental” movement has nothing whatsoever to do with protecting the ecology and is just another fig leaf designed to cover the Modern Liberal’s true intent, the contradictions all disappear. The purpose of their “environmental” policies is nothing other than to further shackle the people of God and science who do things and make things. Since Gore is a member of the Rhetoric Industries, his behavior is of no import to them.

    Thus, flying for me but not for thee.

    I really do recommend getting your paws on Evan Sayet’s book. My review in a nutshell – ignore the occasional typo and sometimes clumsy phrasing and it’s a cracker. It’s short, only 110 pages of about 14pt Times New Roman (I think that’s the font), but I couldn’t devour it in one sitting. I found a lot in it worth savouring.

  8. I realise that this was ostensibly written in a light-hearted way, but I find it astonishing that in The Age – otherwise an unceasing torrent of tendentious Marxist claptrap – that an article so utterly and bitchily contemptuous of the less sophisticated lower classes can appear. I thought their articles about One Direction and David Hasslehoff were bad, but this!

  9. johno

    Honey

    Fairly typical of standard of The Age’s understanding of ‘quality journalism’.

  10. Tom

    Of course, our troll, one of Julia’s bumboys watching the circus from the bullshit-economy bleaches where nothing is made or sold and the government money just keeps on coming, stands up for the world’s most stupendous hypocrites with incomprehensibly stupid “arguments” that rely on the old zombie standby, relativism. Is “Do as I say, not as I do” too “glib” for the elitist fuckwittery to understand? The bogans are revolting and they’re going to kick your sorry arse to nowheresville later this year along with the rest of the thieving kakistocracy.

  11. Paul

    “Gotcha points” are also basic observations of facts. We should avoid discussing observation of realities and stick to discussions of grand principles Mr Bragg? Sounds like the “nothing to see here” defense.

  12. Pickles

    Yes Blair is glib. I like glib. The Left hate glib when it is used agin them cause even glib is withering critique in comparison to the stupidity being mocked.

  13. MattR

    Hah William Bragg clearly doesn’t like having his idols pointed out for the vapid hypocrites that they are.

    “There will still be relatively high carbon emitters and relatively low carbon emitters in such an economy”

    Funny how the people all preaching the ‘low carbon dioxide’ nonsense are all those rich ‘high emitters’ hey? Really funny that isn’t it?

    Like I said, vapid hypocrisy and the fact that you defend it shows that you are both shameless and stupid.

  14. Keith

    Airlines introduced their optional CO2 surcharge some time ago. It would be interesting to see a comparison between subscription levels for the various classes of travel. I suspect the first class folk have never paid it, whereas the simpletons in economy occasionally do. Business class, where corporately paid, would probably achieve the highest levels. Too many dumb corporations have wanted to be seen to be doing the right thing on this.

  15. And Another Thing

    The main conceit of the leftist elite is how much more intelligent they are than the rest of us. Their towering intellect is such that they are making a sacrifice to stoop to preach to us.

    This is a huge favor they are bestowing on us, and we should be grateful. That’s why the Williamsons thoroughly deserve to get away from bogans. Making money from writing for your intellectual peers is so taxing, so to speak. And bogans probably live not fully 20 km from them.

    Al Gore thoroughly deserves all his international travel and huge-carbon- footprint mansions. After all, he’s making a huge sacrifice as a carbon-dioxide evangelist.

    Hollywood stars are another case. It is so intellectually demanding pretending to be someone else, preening for any publicity you can get and making sure you complain about having no privacy leaves precious little time and energy to lecture the plebs. Still they make the sacrifice.

    So the future is bogan-free travel. And when they’ve got public transport organized, those suburbanites crossing thei elite enclaves to travel to and from work every day, will be supervised on trains and buses instead of being allowed – the impertinence – to drive their own cars. So what if public money pays for the streets and their upkeep. If people drive around willy nilly they may see a park or a shop they might come back to, and then where would we be?

  16. Up The Workers!

    Juliar Gillard is all for “free bogan travel”…in fact she travels free (courtesy of the taxpayer) so much that her private car picked up 8 speeding fines in just 6 months.

    Can’t get much more “bogan” than that!

    When asked, neither Juliar nor the 1,600 taxpayer-funded, A.L.P. propagandists, liars and race-riot organizers in her office had the honesty or integrity to admit just who the bogan hoon driver was when the infringements were incurred.

    (It would be embarrassing if the Prime Minister’s private car had been impounded and crushed under hoon driving legislation, don’t you think?)

    Perhaps it was that “sexist-pig idiot” Ralph Blewitt doing the driving, or Tony Abbott who hates his mother, his sisters, his wife, his daughters and Peta Credlin?

    The Attorney General, Ricola Noxious, said that her Department had fully investigated the 8 incidents and she could report that all documentation relating to the matter has now been successfully lost, so there will be no further comment.

    Just as well we have the A.L.P. in control, or people might think that crooks run the joint!

  17. mct

    Ooh Honey Honey, thanks for that link.

    An early contender for Vile Piece of Crap of the Year.

  18. cohenite

    There is nothing hypocritical in calling for a lower carbon economy while continuing to engage in activities that emit carbon. Note that it is lower, not zero, carbon economy that is being called for

    That’s a lie; goggle Beyond Zero Emissions you fat sack of shit and read what our green betters envisage for the rest of us as they cavort at the bottom of the fucking garden under the combined influence of pixie dust and misanthropic scorn for their lessors.

    There should be a criminal law for advocating one thing and doing the opposite; I’ve love to see that bald bastard Fitzsimmons wearing his red brain restraint in prison.

  19. Tom

    OHH, Anson Cameron is a private school smartarse who showed signs of wit and independent thought a few years ago, but is now happy to pocket a few easy bucks pandering to the prejudices of Fairfax’s remaining readers – the Green-voting public service/academic elite.

  20. Chris M

    “Air travel draws together some of the most elite citizens on the planet, highly educated, highly paid, highly mobile people,”

    The way the media is changing that’s not likely to include too many journalists by 2050, they would be more the $35 per day crowd. Especially if you work for Fairfax… I guess that would make them low-carbon emitters. It’s what they wanted, right?

  21. Bruce

    I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who say it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.

    – Glen Reynolds, Instapundit

    With the Green Popes living well on our tithes taxes this whole CAGW thing is so like the Reformation its creepy. Memo to self: I should go buy a few carbon indulgences to assuage my decadent bourgeoisie sins.

  22. cohenite

    What the fuck is an elite citizen anyway?

  23. Fred Furkenburger

    Ooh Honey Honey I like the counterpoint you raise. On the one hand you have The Age pretend elites mocking unfortunates who make a mistake against Tim Blair mocking the hypocracy of people who should know better!

  24. Gab

    Let’s not forget the Gaia botherers who traverse the globe several times a year attending various climate yammerfests discussing how to redistribute wealth as a means to reduce CO2 emissions to control the climate.

  25. 1735099

    @There is something akin to Autistic logic in much Right wing thought. It’s characterised by binary positions (there is only one viewpoint – no shades of grey) – once a position is taken, it’s total and non-negotiable, and anyone with the temerity to disagree is smeared and abused.

  26. 2dogs

    1735099 – psychologists call that ‘projection’.

  27. cohenite

    It’s characterised by binary positions (there is only one viewpoint – no shades of grey)

    No, that’s bullshit numbers; take AGW for example; plenty of grey there; for instance; you support it because:

    1 You’re an ideologicallly driven nut

    2 You’re making a quid out of it

    3 You support the current criminal government and have to support their policies

    4 You’re a misanthrope and see AGW as the perfect vehicle to punish people for being people

    Plenty of grey there; granted it’s all grey bullshit, but it’s still grey.

  28. Thanks Tom for that extra info.
    The One Direction interview had my wife and I saying after about 2 paragraphs “You. Fucking. Bitch.”
    And the Hasselhoff interview, the headline in the GW read something like “Surprisingly charmed” and in this he is “strangely endearing”. These are intended to tell us more about the bloody journalist than the subject. That their prejudices were wrong but they are still in control. That’s the news apparently.
    Anyway, sorry for the ant-fucking detail.

  29. 1735099, your comment applies to anyone who relies on the expressions “Left wing” and “right wing”.

  30. Tom

    The old commo traitor can’t stand the fact that, in spite of all those years indocrinating children to love the mass-murdering ways of his Marxist heroes, the general public still don’t think like him.

  31. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “What the fuck is an elite citizen anyway?”

    You should have been there Cohenite in the early days of the Qantas Club.

    “Elite corporate citizens who are so vital to their corporation’s survival that they must flyalot” could be identified all about this fashionable place, pacing up and down barking orders into their mobile phones (some of us reckoned they weren’t calling anyone, and just posing for the audience).

    Anything ever done there by the warriors was ostentatious and LOUD.

  32. Gab

    I recall that 50,000 delegates winged their way on carbon dioxide death machines to the Rio 20+ summit. Not for these hypocritical elite citizens the horror of public transport once they landed. No. Climate-destroying Petrol-powered Cars were used to transport the Gaia botherers and none were hybrids (the cars that is, not the elites).

  33. cohenite

    Gotcha Mick; elite citizens are wankers.

  34. Not that there isn’t a great deal of hypocrisy about, but to be a hair-splitter, it is not necessarily a bad thing that someone does not do as they tell others to do. Everything stands on the basis of the cost vs benefit, and while we are comparing the costs, we ought to acknowledge that the benefits of a particular activity will differ widely depending on who it is doing it. I doubt Napoleon would have been so successful if he had said to all his soldiers “OK you can all stand in the tent with me and watch the battle”. And I am sure that in the alarmists’ world they see their activities as being easily worth the minor embarrassment of the carbon they produce. So it certainly is an elitist behaviour free of any justifying evidence and from people who ostensibly are against “elitism”, but flying per se is not necessarily hypocritical.

  35. one old bruce

    Mr Numbers, from reading you, I see that you are religious and an Australian nationalist, in fact quite chauvinistic. All very Right Wing. (‘Australia First!’)

    To be a Leftist you would have to be anti-nationalist, cosmopolitan, internationalist. Old proper Leftists often supported the USA, and France, because they are republics born in revolution, the vanguard of new progressive internationalism, both inspired by Thomas Paine. You ought to do a bit of reading into making your position consistent, otherwise at best you come off as a Reactionary, in the narrow sense of just being ‘opposed’.

    See that’s schoolteacher’s disease, friend. Superficiality, skimming the surface, that’s why nowadays we expect teachers to have a degree, to be grounded in Liberal Arts.

  36. Des Deskperson

    ‘The test, then, is whether the emissions associated with the activities of Di Caprio, Flannery etc are lower than they would otherwise be’

    Nah, it’s about the politics of the issue. Even if the ‘progresive’ jetsetters have lowered there activities, and even if these activities, in any case, make very little overall difference to climate change, it’s still very bad, very stupid politics on their part. Do as I say, not as I do is not the way to behave if you want ordinary people to take up your cause, particularly if what you do involves ostentatious displays of wealth and luxury.

    In fact I’m reminded here of Robert Conquest’s ‘second law’, which, if IIRC, is: “every organisation is actually run by secret agents of its enemies”.

  37. Gab

    Speaking of hypocritical, their good friend Leo DiCappers pontificated:

    The problem is we are pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere much faster than the land and seas can absorb it, the accumulating gas is trapping heat and upsetting the world’s climate…Our actions may determine if we become a casualty in the war for a habitable planet for generations to come. …

    By their actions…

    A slew of celebrities, including Leonardo DiCaprio and Jamie Foxx, flew into Sydney on Friday reportedly as part of their plan to welcome in the new year in the city before catching light planes to Canberra Airport, then boarding a private jet to Las Vegas for a second tilt at revelry …

    ‘’They’ll be coming into Canberra on light planes, which are allowed to fly out of Sydney, then they’ll get on their big jet in Canberra and fly off to their next destination,’’ [an airport spokeswoman] said.

    Filed under: Do as I say, not as I do.

  38. candy

    I don’t think the flying is hypocritical but I understand Al Gore has a couple of mansions one near an ocean front. Fireplaces, many bedrooms, large landscaped gardens, etc, for he and his wife.
    This may not be true? but he is trying to change the behaviour of the world’s peoples to more modest living.

  39. Gab

    So people telling us to curb your emissions get a free pass for air travel but not for other carbon dioxide emitting lifestyle choices, Candy? Why?

  40. Max

    Last night at Concord one of the girls serving at First Choice Liquor had the name tag….

    Gaia!!

  41. MACK1

    More climate hypocrisy – a bloke writes a dogmatic article including an attack on Professor Bob Carter’s climate credentials, and he turns out to be a microbiologist!

    Only at Fairfax….

  42. Token

    I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who say it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.

    – Glen Reynolds, Instapundit

    Quite so

  43. Will

    I don’t think the flying is hypocritical

    Why not Candy? Flying anywhere is not necessary with modern communications. It is an indulgence. It is conspicuous consumption. It emits CO2, which Gore believes is a threat to human civilisation. If the threat is very real, if Gore really believed this, then why add to CO2 emissions by flying? Why not set an example by refusing to fly?

    but I understand Al Gore has a couple of mansions one near an ocean front. Fireplaces, many bedrooms, large landscaped gardens, etc, for he and his wife.
    This may not be true?

    Fat Al’s house

    Fat Al’s houseboat

    but he is trying to change the behaviour of the world’s peoples to more modest living.

    I think most of the worlds population is already living very modestly. Far too modestly. This is something that needs to change, so that everyone can enjoy their potential as human beings. Grinding poverty does not make you happy or fulfilled. It can only be done, as can be easily observed from economic history, by the expansion of free trade and commerce, and removing government and regulation (refer Matt Ridley’s “How Prosperity Evolves”)

  44. Will

    Mr Gore’s boat is about 100 feet long. To get an idea about how large this boat is, let’s compare it to your house. An average three bedroom two bath home is about 1500 square feet. This boat on the main deck is about 2000 square feet. If you would count the lower deck and the top deck, it’s over 4000 square feet.

    Now I am happy for the Gore’s new house boat. I believe that if you are successful in life at what you do, it’s your money and you should be able to buy what you want. I don’t believe the Government should tell you, what you can do with your money or take what they want. I believe in the Fair Tax plan. And I don’t believe people should scare you into living one way while they live another.

    Now how does Mr Gore justify this large houseboat?

    Well the fact that the houseboat, called Bio-Solar One, has a roof blanketed with solar panels and runs on biodiesel. Bio-Solar One uses about 4 gallons of bio-diesel on a typical weekend, depending on use. This is about 20-25% more fuel efficient than other boats this size and has about a 500 gallon tank. First the Hurricane Marina dock doesn’t sell bio-diesel. Plus bio-diesel only has a shelf life of no more than six months.

    So a few token and expensive, not to say heavy metal polluting solar panels provides a fig leaf for consuming resources equal to a small African republic.

    How many of those Africans (and Asians) are starving, or at least skimping due to high food prices) from alienation of productive farm land to grow bio fuel crops?

    The man is a disgusting hypocrite. If there is a God then there must be a special hell for people like that.

  45. candy

    ‘Candy? Why?’

    Gab, i guess it’s A.Gore’s chosen career to save the planet, so he needs to travel like other people do in their chosen career. The mansions are his business but two people living in a massive home can’t be energy efficient and you wonder if he thinks about that. Setting an example doesn’t hurt.

  46. Gab

    I would submit Candy that those preaching to us to curb our emissions lead by example lest they be ridiculed as being hypocritical. Or they can also stop with sanctimonious pontifications.

    A.Gore’s chosen career to save the planet

    Hilarious.

    He appears to be doing more damage to Gaia than the average carbon dioxide emitting citizen.

  47. candy

    “He appears to be doing more damage to Gaia than the average carbon dioxide emitting citizen.”

    Yes, it doesn’t compute but his ‘followers’ overlook that part of things because they revere him, silly buggers.

  48. Keith

    ….so he needs to travel like other people do in their chosen career.

    No he doesn’t Candy. Gore “appeared” publicly and rather ostentatiously as a hologram at one those global ‘save the planet/buy fluoro light bulbs/ benefit’ concerts. I recall during his speech, that Gore explained he was appearing as a hologram in order to cut down on his CO2-spewing travel. He has done this only once – as some great example to the plebs. Never since. A total hypocrite.

  49. H B Bear

    It would be great if Malcolm Turnbull would start appearing as a hologram. Providing you knew where the on/off switch was.

  50. Helen Armstrong

    early days of the Qantas Club.

    Ha! Now they also habve The Captains Club where the Very Important people can relax safe from the smelly unwashed.

  51. kae

    Gab

    That di Caprio/celebrities celebrating two new-years’ days in one night is doubly annoying as they are usually the people who also promote rampant consumerism, that the world can’t have humans using things that they don’t need.

    I’m tired of hearing the youth/twentysomethings of today complaining about how everyone is just consuming too much.

    Do they really understand anything they’re saying?

  52. Token

    Gab, i guess it’s A.Gore’s chosen career to save the planet, so he needs to travel like other people do in their chosen career.

    A similar viewpoint was written on the Barn Door in Animal Farm….

  53. Rich of Collaroy

    I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who say it’s a crisis start using both sides of the toilet paper.

  54. kae

    Al Gore’s chosen career is to make Al Gore richer.

    He doesn’t give a flying f*k about the planet or the punters he’s conning.

  55. I wonder if these condescending Saviours of Mankind are aware that without the economies of scale that the Bogans provide, their lifestyles of the rich and so terribly important would turn to shit?

  56. cohenite

    Slightly OT but the ABC has another bit of alarmist crap stimulated by the current heatwave oppressing Australia [ie Summer]. This is typical:

    More hot weather can easily lead to a vicious cycle that creates even more hot weather and higher electricity prices. Hot days lead to massive increases in the use of air conditioners around Australia and homes and offices fight off the heat. This kind of intensive energy adds to the problem of climate change and, not incidentally, is the reason power companies are ‘gold-plating’ their infrastructure.

    “More hot weather can easily lead to a vicious cycle that creates even more hot weather”

    I mean my IQ decreases just reading that; can you imagine what the IQ is of the fuckwit who wrote it.

    But it is a brilliantly stupid concept applicable to all left wing values; more left wing verbal diarrhea leads to even more left wing verbal diarrhea; more AGW stupidity leads to even more AGW stupidity etc.

  57. Alfonso

    “The test, then, is whether the emissions associated with the activities of Di Caprio, Flannery etc are lower than they would otherwise be…”

    Quite…..I religiously stop running the diesel turbo Cruiser 5 minutes early for beeries these days than when I was a lad, in the spirit of Leon. Maybe Leon and I can be carbon pen pals and share carbon consumption confidences.

    ( I know, I know….the beer releases CO2 bubbles upon opening and clearly should be banned).

    And sit down for this one son, it even transports firearms around the bush. Shocking, I know.

  58. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “I mean my IQ decreases just reading that; can you imagine what the IQ is of the fuckwit who wrote it.”

    The Minister’s office of course, then faxed off to their ABC’s fax centre for urgent delivery to the news room for immediate broadcasting.

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