Knowing the remuneration package of Tony Jones/Jon Faine, etc.

It is quite a few years since I was on the board of the ABC – yes, I know what you are thinking.  Fat lot of good you did, Judith.  And you are probably right.

But I just love the current efforts of the ABC to resist any meaningful disclosure of the pay packages of the top earning ABC ‘talent’.  I hesistate to use the term worker or employee; certainly, in my day, quite a lot of the ‘talent’ was employed through service companies, which also employed members of their families.  Even as a board member, it was difficult to extract any real information about the remuneration arrangements and levels of the radio and television presenters.

And yes, employing these people through service companies did probably make the ABC party to a form of tax avoidance, although the presenters would declare that they didn’t have any right of tenure as most ABC employees do.  Mind you, I always thought that a number of these presenters were engaging in a high degree of hypocrisy by publicly banging on about the evils of individual contracts and WorkChoices while taking full advantage of individual contracts themselves.

THE ABC could be forced to disclose details of the pay packets of its top broadcasters and producers at programs such as Media Watch, Four Corners and Mornings with Jon Faine after it lost two appeals to block access to the information.

The national broadcaster received $1 billion in government funding in the last financial year and spent $486 million on wages and superannuation.

But the ABC does not want to provide a breakdown of who its biggest earners are.

The network lost its most recent appeal just before Christmas when the Administrative Appeals Tribunal ruled against it, rejecting the ABC’s arguments and saying some evidence it had put forward was not relevant and “of little assistance”.

A Freedom of Information request was lodged more than two years ago by the Herald and Weekly Times, seeking access to documents “dealing with salaries, or any payments” paid to program makers working on 13 programs, including those listed above, for the financial year ending 2010.

The ABC refused to hand over the documents, which include individual employment contracts, Australian Workplace Agreements, Individual Transitional Employment Agreements, pay slips and other “payment records”.

According to the ABC’s annual report for the 2012 financial year, 401 employees earned more than $150,000 each – an increase from 312 the previous year.

The ABC employs the equivalent of 4603 full-time employees.

You really have to laugh.  According to the ABC Annual Report:

The ABC recognises its responsibility to the Australian people as a publicly-funded broadcaster, and adopts high standards of corporate governance.

Really?  If it were to adopt high standards of corporate governance, it would not be fudging its remeration report, which is pretty much what was required of companies 15 years ago.  All that can be found out are the earnings of the top six officers within bands and note that the term ‘officers’ excludes all presenters.

And openness and transparency as part of high standards of corporate governance?  I don’t think so.  Take these statements from the Annual Report.

The Freedom of Information Act 1982 (“FOI Act”) gives the public the right to access documents held by the ABC. During the past year, the ABC received 30 requests for access to documents under the FOI Act. One request was granted, four were granted in part, 20 were refused and one was withdrawn. Four requests were still being processed at the end of the financial year. Of the 20 requests which were refused, 16 were outside the scope of the FOI Act. Part IIof Schedule 2 of the FOI Act specifically excludes documents relating to the ABC’s program material from the operation of the FOI Act.

Prior to the launch of the revised ABC Editorial Policies in April 2011 (see page 85), the ABC Editorial Policies included an aim to respond to complaints within 28 days. Between 1 July 2010 and 30 June 2011, ABC Audience and Consumer Affairs responded directly to 17 241 audience contacts.Of these, 11 833 (68.6%) received responseswithin 28 days.

In other words, use every excuse under the sun to withhold information from FOI requests and dither away while ‘handling’ complaints.  (Recall the Finkelstein suggestion that complaints be handled within days … sure.) Note also that less than 10 per cent of complaints are ‘upheld’.

I had also forgotten what an incredibly SELF-CONGRATULATORY organisation the ABC is.  If anything, it seems worse than it was during my tenure on the board.  (Incidentally, the staff’s attitude to the board was completely dismissive, along the lines … well, you are here for a short time, we are here for ever, so we will ignore you.)

The Strategic Plan 2010 –13 commits the ABC to striving to maintain its leadership position as aninnovative and independent media organisationserving the needs of all Australians. It sets out six high-level strategic goals for the ABC:

Audience focused—to provide a range of mediaexperiences to meet the needs and expectations of diverse audiences

High quality—to consistently deliver content which reflects the ABC’s commitment to quality, independence and high editorial standards

Innovative—to pursue new ideas, opportunities and partnerships, and grow our capabilities for the future

Values based—to demonstrate ABC Values in every aspect of our work

Efficient—to maximise the efficient and effective use of resources

Responsible—to be visible and active in the community, setting high standards of social,environmental and regulatory responsibility.

But here’s the rub – WHEN THE ABC MARKS ITSELF ON THESE CRITERIA (sub-categories, included), THERE IS NOT ONE AREA IN WHICH IT DOES NOT REGARD ITS PERFORMANCE AS EITHER SATISFACTORY OR OUTSTANDING.  I am not making this up.

Where do you begin?

Another thought – gross misrepresentation by the ABC in its Annual Report.

“In real terms, the ABC’s operational revenue has declined over time.”

Actually, not since 1997-98, it has not.  And there were special reasons for the high figures in the mid 1980s.

And note the use of operational revenue.  The government is for ever kicking in extras here and there, including of coure the now uncontestible Australia Network, which are not counted as operational revenue.

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126 Responses to Knowing the remuneration package of Tony Jones/Jon Faine, etc.

  1. Token

    …THERE IS NOT ONE AREA IN WHICH IT DOES REGARD ITS PERFORMANCE AS EITHER SATISFACTORY OR OUTSTANDING. I am not making this up.

    Do they all get trophies for effort like they gave to the kiddies for coming 17th out of 18 participants at Little Athetics?

  2. Indeed, where do you begin. Here’s my start:

    Values based—to demonstrate ABC Values in every aspect of our work

    And they excel at it, reflecting ABC values as anti-business, anti-development, Gaia is good, etc etc.

    It’s so entrenched they mostly don’t even realise it. Reminds me of Mr Mackey in South Park on drugs.

  3. H B Bear

    According to the ABC’s annual report for the 2012 financial year, 401 employees earned more than $150,000 each – an increase from 312 the previous year.

    ALPBC Gravy Train – stopping all stations to Northcote and Balmain.

  4. C.L.

    What an extraordinary story this is.

    The salaries paid by taxpayers to ABC stars are top secret?

  5. And Another Thing

    The ABC is wrong on so many levels. First and foremost it is a news organization – yes, it really is – suppressing news. It is taxpayer-funded and has twice refused to tell taxpayers how those funds are being spent.

    The salary of just about every other public- funded position, from the prime minister down, is a matter of public record. Why should the ABC be any different.

    It used to be an organization Australia could be proud of. Now it’s there to look after the leftoids.

    The public deserves to know, for instance, what Faine gets for whining over the airwaves for about 20 hours a week.

  6. H B Bear

    I don’t expect Tone will be releasing a renumeration report for Snowcone Pty Ltd any time soon.

  7. Token

    Mind you, I always thought that a number of these presenters were engaging in a high degree of hypocrisy by publicly banging on about the evils of individual contracts and WorkChoices while taking full advantage of individual contracts themselves.

    Obviously the top ranking staff at the ABC see individual contacts are too good to share with the 99%.

  8. Toiling Mass

    Maybe the ABC has to pay large salaries to these select presenters in order to retain them – what with the likely competition among the other networks to snatch them up.

    Hahahaaa!

  9. Andrew

    Out of interest, do the ABC shops get publically funded or are they privately run?

  10. brc

    I don’t have a problem with the ‘talent’ using various legal tax strategies in order to minimise their tax liability.

    However, if any single one of them – any of them – have ever uttered ‘greed’ or ‘fatcat’ or any other envy-driven dribble, then they ought to be fired on the spot, after issuing a grovelling public apology.

    It’s funny how the noisy ones who call for income redistribution never put their hand in their pocket to lead by example. No, it’s always ‘greedy bosses’ and the like.

  11. Tintarella di Luna

    Maybe the ABC has to pay large salaries to these select presenters in order to retain them – what with the likely competition among the other networks to snatch them up.

    Oooo Toiling Mass you are naughty. Let’s see now there was Kerry O’Brien who detached from Auntie’s teat beckoned by Channel 10 to front a show was it called Assignment or Page One, nto successful at all in the competitive world of commercial reality. Kerry then hightailed it back to Auntie, couldn’t make a go of it, Ellen Fanning what happened to Ellen?

    Phillip Clark, went to 2GB lasted a little while back at Auntie though, last I heard he was on ABC radio Broken Hill,or Bourke I’m sure he’d be still at his digs at beautiful Bronte, Mike Bailey, left to challenge Joe Hockey for the ALPBC, of course we had Maxine McKew not welcome back at Auntie for the time being.

  12. C.L.

    It will be hilarious to learn what Holmes gets paid for five minutes work a week on Media Watch. And does he get holiday pay for the three months he has off every year?

  13. Grey

    It is quite a few years since I was on the board of the ABC – yes, I know what you are thinking. Fat lot of good you did, Judith.

    Not at all, I love the ABC. I wake up with Fran Kelly and I retire to bed with Philip Adams.
    I very much appreciate the time and effort you put in towards keeping it vibrant, high quality and intellectually challenging.

    Don’t let the philistines here convince you otherwise

  14. .

    Not at all, I love the ABC. I wake up with Fran Kelly and I retire to bed with Philip Adams.

    Then pay for it yourself. I would pay these fuckheads to go away, that’s about it.

  15. H B Bear

    I wake up with Fran Kelly…

    Ugghh what a thought.

    Philip Adams sends so many people to sleep he should be on the Medicare Schedule.

  16. Keith

    If individual compensation packages become publicly known imagine the hissy fits of jealous rage amongst the ‘talent’. Beautiful in its ugliness. :-)

    However, if any single one of them – any of them – have ever uttered ‘greed’ or ‘fatcat’ or any other envy-driven dribble, then they ought to be fired on the spot, after issuing a grovelling public apology.

    Not quite the same thing, but I remember Snow Cone denouncing Work Choices in very strident terms. It would be ironic (and massively funny) if he is employed under an individual agreement.

  17. Grey

    Then pay for it yourself. I would pay these fuckheads to go away, that’s about it.

    No need. The taxpayer through their infinite wisdom is more than happy to pay the 30 cents a day for such an excellent, world-class service.

    Aside from a few unhappy malcontents that is.

  18. manalive

    ALPBC Gravy Train – stopping all stations to Northcote and Balmain …

    LOL so true, you can see Faine’s house from Rushall station.

  19. Gab

    Yes. I’m more convinced that Grey is the banned Metro.

  20. jumpnmcar

    The taxpayer through their infinite wisdom is more than happy to pay the 30 cents a day for such an excellent, world-class service.

    As usual a lefty tells me how I think and feel, and is wrong.

  21. Judith Sloan

    Ah, the shops. In my day, they made a smallish profit competing on unfair terms with other retail outlets.

    Is not counted as operational revenue.

  22. Judith Sloan

    It would be interesting to know what dollars the taxpayer shells out to Red Kez to top and tail 4 Corners, which is often bought in, in any case.

    Any guesses? North of $100K would be my guess.

  23. jumpnmcar

    As an aside, i wonder how many Australians are actually net tax payers. Those that, in the wash up, pay even the $108pa to the Fed Govt.

    (leaving aside that I recon Fed Govt employees essentially pay no tax from their pay packet )

  24. JC

    It would be interesting to know what dollars the taxpayer shells out to Red Kez to top and tail 4 Corners, which is often bought in, in any case.

    Any guesses? North of $100K would be my guess.

    Ya think. Reckon it’s closer to $300 K

  25. Will

    In an incoming Abbott government, the new communications minister will undoubtedly approve a corporate plan to transfer the production Units of the ABCLP into separate corporate entities (News, Retail, Drama, Metro Radio stations, Science) and place arms length contracts between what is left (rural radio) and these companies. The companies report under the Companies legislation. The companies can then be sold off at will. The remnant ABC can purchase content from these providers, or elsewhere. Costs are variabilised. All in the name of efficiency and paying down ALP debt. The new companies with new owners are free to sell their information content to the market.

    I am sure it be be on Malcolm priority list. You know it makes sense. Grey will be happy to purchase his propaganda direct, rather than using recycled taxpayers dollars.

    and this

  26. Grey

    Grey will be happy to purchase his propaganda direct, rather than using recycled taxpayers dollars.

    No, actually if its all the same I would prefer the recycled taxpayer dollars. You know we need to do more recycling.

  27. jumpnmcar

    opps
    $108 = $0.30 x 365 days.

  28. Will

    So you agree you are a moocher

  29. Grey

    It would be interesting to know what dollars the taxpayer shells out to Red Kez to top and tail 4 Corners, which is often bought in, in any case.

    Any guesses? North of $100K would be my guess.

    And worth every penny. I don’t see it as just payment for his thoughtful and compassionate introductions and summations – much as I value them.

    I see it also in the value he provides in terms of mentoring younger journalists. I am sure Leigh Sales was channeling the Red Devil when she cornered Tony Abbott with such panache on 7:30 report.

  30. Will

    Grey, if you think he is worth every penny, I am happy to give you to opportunity to pay for it. directly, rather than mooch.

  31. Michael

    Maybe the FOI request misspelt ‘renumeration’ and the ABC didn’t know what it was requesting?

  32. Will

    You can actually have the opportunity of purchasing a stake in ABCLP News & Current Affairs Pty Ltd. I am sure both yourself and a great many other are more than happy to do so.

  33. Grey

    So you agree you are a moocher

    I expect so.

  34. blogstrop

    Gab, I reckon he’s about on a par with Hammy.

  35. blogstrop

    With about as many smarts as xevram.

  36. blogstrop

    And the persistence of a steve.

  37. blogstrop

    But it’s a shade of grey we could all live without, and even Jarrah would have to agree he’s just trolling.

  38. Will

    It can be Malcolm’s first cabinet submission – “A more efficient and effective ABC”. Can picture it now, amid the applause of the rest of Cabinet.

  39. Grey

    Blogstrop, I am only here after reading what wonderful senses of humor right wingers have compared to dour left wingers.

  40. Token

    Gab, I reckon he’s about on a par with Hammy.

    He has the intellectual clout of Hammy.

  41. candy

    The ABC does or used to do great kids shows, like Bananas in Pyjamas, so there’s that.

  42. Fred Furkenburger

    Then Grey you must have a wicked sense of sarcasm!

  43. Class warfare popps it’s ugly head up again.

  44. linecall

    The last info I had from about 2002 was that Red Kezza was raking in about $450,000 a year for the 7.30 Report, which paid for his Mosman mansion, just around the corner from Maxine McKew. But that was 10 years ago. The top salaries are probably inching towards 7 figures in 2013.

  45. jupes

    Gab, I reckon he’s about on a par with Hammy.

    Yep. Hammy’s his role model.

    He started off differently and slightly interesting, however he couldn’t maintain that so has resorted to Hammy’s shtick: bland comments as contrary as possible.

    Idiot.

  46. Wayneofperth

    NOT ONE AREA IN WHICH IT DOES REGARD ITS PERFORMANCE AS EITHER SATISFACTORY OR OUTSTANDING

    Should there be another not in there?

  47. stackja

    This is secret men’s business. All is correct. Just trust the ABC.

  48. Dan

    Andrew Denton would have to be the top earner these days. Is he still even on the damn station?

  49. 1735099

    Care to reveal your remuneration package Judith?

  50. cohenite

    I put this on another thread so apologies for the repetition:

    Slightly OT but the ABC has another bit of alarmist crap stimulated by the current heatwave oppressing Australia [ie Summer]. This is typical:

    More hot weather can easily lead to a vicious cycle that creates even more hot weather and higher electricity prices. Hot days lead to massive increases in the use of air conditioners around Australia and homes and offices fight off the heat. This kind of intensive energy adds to the problem of climate change and, not incidentally, is the reason power companies are ‘gold-plating’ their infrastructure.

    “More hot weather can easily lead to a vicious cycle that creates even more hot weather”

    I mean my IQ decreases just reading that; can you imagine what the IQ is of the fuckwit who wrote it.

    But it is a brilliantly stupid concept applicable to all left wing values; more left wing verbal diarrhea leads to even more left wing verbal diarrhea; more AGW stupidity leads to even more AGW stupidity etc.

    The point, apart from the nurturing of this abysmal idiocy from people who are better suited to stand on street corners and berate and harangue hapless passerbys, is that a truly representative viewpoint is suppressed at the abc; that and the fact our political reps actually take the abc seriously effectively means that the great majority of the Australian people are disenfranchised while similtaneously paying for a vile fringe viewpoint to practice onanism.

  51. cohenite

    Care to reveal your remuneration package Judith?

    How is that relevant you fucking goose?

  52. Token

    Slightly OT but the ABC has another bit of alarmist crap stimulated by the current heatwave oppressing Australia [ie Summer].

    Of course they do, they peddle their AGW cult’s mumbo jumbo on every day that ends in a “y”.

  53. Frank

    Tintarella di Luna,
    Ellen Fanning made Fine Line for which a number of sins could be excused. The scene in which Kerry O’Brien earnestly racks his brain trying to remember an instance of having made a mistake. He failed. Maxine McKew showing off her plummy accent that would make the most foppish Brit cringe in shame-the one she developed in QLD. Can’t have endeared herself to many with that documentary.

  54. Des Deskperson

    ‘..his thoughtful and compassionate introductions and summations’

    Remember the ABC promos from a few years back that showed O’Brien musing reflectively about his life in and contribution to TV journalism. Among other things, he bloviated about how privileged he was compared to someone who only had one bowl of rice a day.

    This sentiment struck me in particular as cheap, lazy and fatuous, and confirmed my opinion of O’Brien as just another connected and protected third rater. It was particuarly interesting that while O’Brien offered this piece of adolescent abstract compassion, the promo showed a very short (and presumably unintentional) glimpse of his bulging gut.

  55. Dan

    Probably not the right thread, but that Tony Mohr fella from Cohenite’s link works for the Australian Conservation Foundation, annual report 2011 – 2012here.

    It is a charitable organization and therefore exempt from certain levied taxes. Whatthefuckfor? Providing alms to Gaia? They spend more on staff and marketing than they receive in donations!

  56. Judith Sloan

    Fixed Wayneofperth.

    Numbers – you can go and have a look at the Westfield AR for my salary as a director to the last cent. The shareholders have every right to know.

    News Corp also publishes a thorough remuneration report, with named persons and their salaries. Sadly, I am no where near the top.

    My guess is that ABC is very unwise to resist providing this information. In the case of the BBC, all this information was eventually released and it was very embarassing, mainly because of the delays.

    And to think the BBC was paying that twat Jonathan Ross over a million quid a year! What were the governors thinking? Oh, they didn’t know?

  57. linecall

    I would not have a clue what Prof. Sloan earns, but just from my knowledge of industry gossip about general pay rates for op-ed pieces by experts in general, I’d wager Prof. Sloan gets around $1,750 per article for The Oz. The good Professor is free to laugh me off the face off the earth, or check the security of her bank account! :)

  58. Gab

    I would not have a clue what Prof. Sloan earns,

    What business is it of anyone?

  59. JC

    Care to reveal your remuneration package Judith?

    All if Judith’s directorships renums are on the public record, you goose.

    Look it up if you’re that curious.

  60. linecall

    Gab

    None of course. My point is – that unlike the ABC – those subject to market forces, can bet that information/knowledge about how their compensation is calculated is very broadly known, and therefore not very hard to work out with some accuracy if you really care that much.

  61. Gab

    Oh please stop with the act, linecall. Judith had already addressed the issue before you stuck your snout into it.

  62. JC

    Linecall

    Judith works as a journalist for a private organization. It may be news to you, but there is a slight difference between private and public organizations.

    Dude, you moniker misrepresents reality. You’re so off line they need a telescope to find the ball.

  63. Gab

    Read it slowly, linecall. I can’t dumb it down to accommodate you.

  64. linecall

    Judith works as a journalist for a private organization. It may be news to you, but there is a slight difference between private and public organizations.

    Go back to 6.46 pm and read carefully.

  65. blogstrop

    Nobody should bother to read you carefully, Linecall.

  66. Gab

    I’ve posted this elsewhere but it belongs here too.

    Backstory:

    A COALITION of environmental activists has developed an extraordinary secret plan to ruin Australia’s coal export boom by disrupting and delaying key projects and infrastructure.

    The strategy includes mounting legal challenges to up to a dozen key mines and exploiting the Lock The Gate movement against coal-seam gas to put pressure on governments to block mining.

    A funding proposal for the Australian anti-coal movement, obtained by The Australian, declares that 2012 and 2013 are critical years to stop tens of billions of dollars of investment and says the aim of the strategy is to “disrupt and delay” projects “while gradually eroding public and political support for the industry and continually building the power of the movement to win more”.

    The document – which is believed to have been written by Greenpeace Australia Pacific’s John Hepburn and CoalSwarm’s Bob Burton – issues a call to arms for coal activists nationwide before the March 24 Queensland election and the next federal election.

    The document names philanthropic consultant Sam Hardy and a foundation set up by Wotif founder and Greens donor Graeme Wood on the cover. It’s believed Ms Hardy was consulted on some versions.

    It outlines a pitch for up to $5.92 million that would be used to fund litigation to stop coal port expansions, major rail lines and new mines; to wage a “battle of Galilee” to stop “mega-mines” in central Queensland’s Galilee Basin and expose it as a “globally significant carbon bomb”; and to discredit the NSW government’s planning process for land use in the Hunter Valley that aims to determine how to allow mining and agriculture to co-exist.

  67. Lazlo

    although the presenters would declare that they didn’t have any right of tenure as most ABC employees do

    Seriously, do ABC employees have ‘tenure’. How bizarre, and on what grounds – freedom to preach? Even universities don’t use the T word any more.

  68. Alfonso

    The only thing that matters about Their ABC is what PM Abbott is going to do about its status as the left’s taxpayer funded media arm.

    This means you Scotty, you defender of the Charter you.
    Diversity of opinion from the Welfare State to rabid Greenoid nutter depopulation theory won’t cut it comrade.

    I reckon you’ll get an Arts qango to “run”.

  69. 1735099

    Judith – has any part of your salary ever been paid for from the public purse?

  70. Rabz

    But I just love the current efforts of the ABC to resist any meaningful disclosure of the pay packages of the top earning ABC ‘talent’.

    Well, you can bet on one thing – the whiny, sanctimonious, hypocritical li’l biatches don’t come cheap…

    Wankers.

  71. cohenite

    Judith – has any part of your salary ever been paid for from the public purse?

    She was on the ABC board numbnuts. Do you have a point apart from your head?

    The point of the thread is the outrageous renumeration given to abc staff who collectively represent a very narrow and parasitic viewpoint and therefore contradict the charter and purpose of the abc.

  72. Megan

    The Numerical Numpty has just proved that he is an ignorant, nosy, obnoxious, mannerless oaf. Not that we did not already know that.

    Put up or shut up you sad excuse for a weak-minded moron. You opened the batting so tell us how much you’ve ripped off from the Queensland taxpayer over the years. They sure didn’t get their money’s worth.

  73. Boambee John

    Could I just correct one point.

    These characters might be paid large sums of money from the taxpayers, but they do not earn that money.

  74. Gab

    I see where you’re coming from, Boambee however I believe they work very hard at promoting the government. They toil everyday, all day long telling us how wonderful and righteous the ALP/Unions/Greens are; how evil da Abbott. It’s an almighty effort on their part. Okay, they get their talking points from the ALP early in the day, still, they weave such spin you can almost see the perspiration on their oily little brown noses.

  75. .

    I would not have a clue what Prof. Sloan earns, but just from my knowledge of industry gossip about general pay rates for op-ed pieces by experts in general, I’d wager Prof. Sloan gets around $1,750 per article for The Oz. The good Professor is free to laugh me off the face off the earth, or check the security of her bank account!

    How about – go fuck yourself, fuckhead.

    We’re sick of paying our taxes to support Combet’s fake press conferences run by his girlfriend’s 100% taxpayer subsidised firm to push the junk science and economics behind the carbon tax.

    Again, go fuck yourself.

  76. Andrew

    Has yours, 1735099?

    He works for the ALPBC, so yes.

  77. JimD

    Sinc.Sinc.Sinc,
    Numbers just broke fred an is bean fredind an i did nuffink rongue (this time).

  78. Tom

    Judith – has any part of your salary ever been paid for from the public purse?

    Old commo traitor, have you EVER earned a dollar in your protected existence that I or the taxpayers of Queensland didn’t pay for? Didn’t think so, you fucking parasite.

  79. Token

    How many times can Numbers be-clown himself in one thread?

  80. Des Deskperson

    “Seriously, do ABC employees have ‘tenure’”

    Lazlo, a quick troll through the Australian Broadcasting Corporation Act 1983 indicates that ongoing ABC employees seem to have a great deal of protection, including through complex review and appeal processes, against involuntary redeployment or termination. They certainly seem to be better protected than Commonwealth (APS) public servants. In fact, given the overall trends toward simplification and streamlining of redeployment and separation in public sector employment, the ABC seems strangely archaic.

    The ABC Act actually includes a Tenure Appeal Board (s. 57) as part of its protections for staff against arbitrary redeployment.

  81. JimD

    The fred was? Oh yes, remuneration of Absolute Bloody Communist (aka ABC)presenters. As Ms Sloan was a board member her remuneration is outside the parameters of the fred. Re-align your sights Pte W.

  82. Tom

    a quick troll through the Australian Broadcasting Corporation Act 1983 indicates that ongoing ABC employees seem to have a great deal of protection.

    I once worked there. It’s not called the unsackable staff collective for nothing. I’ve never heard of a single staffer being sacked for laziness or incompetence. It’s a sheltered public service workshop where not a single performance metric used in the real world applies. It can’t be reformed. It can never give taxpayers value. It has become an activist political organisation. It needs new private owners to find its market. There is a market. But it can never represent the public.

  83. JimD

    “(Incidentally, the staff’s attitude to the board was completely dismissive, along the lines … well, you are here for a short time, we are here for ever, so we will ignore you.)”.
    Sounds more like Fairfaux pre Absolutely Bloody Criminal(aka ABC) Newts24 taking over the baton.

  84. Megan

    Re-align your sights Pte W.

    Might be tricky for him since he only seems to have one eye.

  85. Lazlo

    The ABC Act actually includes a Tenure Appeal Board (s. 57) as part of its protections for staff against arbitrary redeployment.

    Wow, just wow. And I thought universities were neolithic in their enterprise agreements. I speak from experience. But unis have had to wise up a bit IR-wise in the last 15 years because they have to compete – a term incomprehensible to the ABC.

    We have a real dinosaur here. Nothing will change it other than some form of competition for their rent.

  86. Lazlo

    Lazlo, a quick troll through the Australian Broadcasting Corporation Act 1983 indicates that ongoing ABC employees seem to have a great deal of protection,

    Des, does that mean that their conditions are subject to this Act rather than an enterprise agreement? If not, which instrument has precedence? (Judith might know about this)

  87. JimD

    Nice name @ 10.28pm,
    Excellent perception.

  88. Andrew

    Imagine the pay rise Tony Jones and Jon Faine would receive if the ecofascists (aka Greens) got into power?

  89. Lazlo

    Des and Judith: did my own homework on the ABC EA, so no need to respond.

    This Agreement prevails over any inconsistent provision contained in the Australian
    Broadcasting Corporation Act 1983 and the regulations, instructions, staff rules, service
    rules, or general orders made under that Act.

    Still leaves lots of wriggle room for litigants and unions I reckon but..

  90. JimD

    Lazlo,
    The young and naive wrote the Unfair Work Act in such a manner that not only they can’t make head nor tail of it the old and wise are scratching their heads as well.
    As Mrs Sloan is presumably neither the former nor ancient with nits, perhaps, but watch out she’s more a conservative economist rather than a labour lawyer or a labour economist with magnified rear vision.

  91. Des Deskperson

    Lazlo, I’m not sure that the EA, while overiding the Act in certain areas, provides much more flexibility in terms of getting rid of unwanted or incompetent staff.

    Check out, for example, cl 24 on managing underperformance, which proscribes a long and complex ‘second chance’ process before terminaton can even be considered as an option in managing efficiency. And check out the extraordinarily generous redundancy payment arrangement in cl. 55!!

  92. Lazlo

    Agree Des. Underperformance is impossible to manage effectively under provisions like these. The unions know it too.

  93. 1735099

    @Gab
    I have been paid for from the public purse (including when I was a Nasho). Currently I run a small business.
    But then, unlike Judith Sloan, and many others on this site, I’m not into the neo-McCarthyism of labelling everyone who works in the public sector a parasite.
    And I’m still waiting for Judith’s reply.

  94. JC

    I have been paid for from the public purse (including when I was a Nasho).

    Vietnam again. Fucck!

  95. Sinclair Davidson

    And I’m still waiting for Judith’s reply.

    I can just imagine the old school master using that line. 1735099 you’re not a man amongst children here – you’re talking to adults.

  96. blogstrop

    McCarthy was, for the most part, correct.

  97. JC

    Spuds

    Have you considered the fact that people may not reply to you because they simply don’t like you? You think that’s possible?… not speaking for Judith though, as I have no insight.

  98. 1735099

    Adults?
    On this site – surely you jest!
    Adults answer legitimate questions.
    Children put fingers in their ears and ignore anything unpleasant.

  99. JC

    Shut up spuds. Go away. Go write about your time in Vietnam.

  100. Sinclair Davidson

    Children put fingers in their ears and ignore anything unpleasant.

    As you well know. So why do you do it?

  101. Des Deskperson

    I don’t know when and for how long Professor Sloan was a member of the ABC Board, but according to the latest Remuneration tribunal det, a member of the ABC Board currently earns $52,910 p.a. That’s around the same level as the top of the APS 4 range in the Australian Public Service, not a great deal!!

  102. 1735099

    @Des Deskperson
    Well OK – but I didn’t ask you – I asked her, and she hasn’t replied.
    Apparently being paid by the taxpayer is OK so long as you conform to the groupthink expressed here.
    The hypocrisy is stark.

  103. .

    Mc Carthyism?

    Why the hell not. You have said you think people who are materialistic ought to be crucified, and you were’t joking.

    Personally I take that as a death threat and the authorities ought to be alerted.

  104. 1735099

    @Noname
    You can’t read (or can’t think – or both).
    Nowhere did I say anyone should be crucified. I pointed out what became of the last person who chased the money-changers out of the temple. Traders are the 21st century equivalent of money-changers.
    They contribute nothing, provide no service, but increase their own wealth at the expense of the workers and clients of the entity.
    They are spivs and thieves – the real parasites.

  105. .

    Putting forward a view and backing away from it when you are challenged.

    You are a despicable moral coward.

  106. Grey

    It would be interesting to know what dollars the taxpayer shells out to Red Kez to top and tail 4 Corners, which is often bought in, in any case.

    Any guesses? North of $100K would be my guess.

    You can’t look at any contract in isolation.
    Kez provided a lifetime of service to the nation. He is a bit like Ricky Ponting – management ask him to move aside to allow the next generation of cricketers to come forward. But cricket doesn’t then demand Ricky clean the toilets at Bellrive oval for minimum wage.

    Kerry was a leading gladiator in the battle of the people versus vested interests, like Ricky he is still a valued asset for mentoring and coaching junior players.

  107. Sinclair Davidson

    He is a bit like Ricky Ponting

    Lost the Ashes he should have been sacked years ago?

  108. Lazlo

    Kerry was a leading gladiator in the battle of the people versus vested interests

    What a joke. He was a thought leader for middle class, inner city groupthink.

  109. candy

    i thought Kerry O’Brien did some great interviews with non-politicians, he always made their stories really interesting.
    When he interviewed Mr Howard tho’ I thought he had a sort of smirking look about him in the last year or two, I think he did not like Mr Howard.

  110. Grey

    Lost the Ashes he should have been sacked years ago?

    It is true that like Michael Clarke’s procession of double centuries, Leigh Sales forensic demolition of Tony Abbott does appear to overshadow Kerry O’Brien’s end of career performances.

    But Ricky and Kerry’s records still stand very proud.

  111. JC

    When he interviewed Mr Howard tho’ I thought he had a sort of smirking look about him in the last year or two, I think he did not like Mr Howard.

    na really… I thought he loved him.

    Anyone ever seen Kerry stomach? He’s not as skinny as he appears on TV, as he’s got one of those beer bellies.

    In fact he’s basically a beer belly on legs.

  112. JC

    You can’t look at any contract in isolation.

    this is going to be a good one.

    Kez provided a lifetime of service to the nation.

    Lol.. yea, he did it for pure altruism.

    He is a bit like Ricky Ponting – management ask him to move aside to allow the next generation of cricketers to come forward.

    Are you on ice? They will literally need a jack hammer and bullsdozer to get the fucker outta building as he’s on the best wicket possible. Who else gets paid 100′s of thousands to espouse hard line left wing ideology? Okay Fat Tony Jones does and the rest of the red brigade… but the point is still valid.

    But cricket doesn’t then demand Ricky clean the toilets at Bellrive oval for minimum wage.

    I’m sure Kerry’s contract stipulates he doesn’t clean toilets, but it should.

    Kerry was a leading gladiator in the battle of the people versus vested interests, like Ricky he is still a valued asset for mentoring and coaching junior players.

    You mean brainwashing?

    You’re an idiot Greys.

  113. Grey

    Anyone ever seen Kerry stomach?

    How is Piers Ackerman’s stomach looking these days? Last time I ran into him at the wall at Kings Cross it was fairly substantial. Leigh Sales’s is like a washboard though.

    Trust JC to cut to the very essence of what makes a good journalist.

  114. JC

    Greys… Piers is a portly soul. Everyone knows that, you dullard.

    But how many people know about Kerry being a beer belly on thin legs?

    My comment is newsworthy and interesting. Yours on the other hand is just spiteful leftist swill.

    Fuck off.

  115. Token

    But cricket doesn’t then demand Ricky clean the toilets at Bellrive oval for minimum wage.

    No, they allowed Ricky to take his skills which have been well marketed on a national stage for many years to another industry. Ponting’s Sports Management company has done well in the commercial world.

    As you note, Red Kez is so unemployable he had to be parked in a cruisy job after wrecking the 7:30 brand.

  116. JC

    Hungry polar bear wants to dine on a BBC idiot. I’m torn on this one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIql1ZpHovs&NR=1&feature=endscreen

  117. Grey

    Marvelous clip!

    Gee whiz, this really is why I’ve come here. To see these animals, to get to understand them

    I can fully understand what he is saying here. Thankfully the reporter emerged unscathed. Possibly the fact that the bear’s nose was a thousand times more sensitive than his own might have something to do with it.

  118. candy

    What do you expect if you plonk yourself in a box in the middle of a wild animal’s habitat.

  119. blogstrop

    Sinc, once again you own the grey, and we’ve seen the form guide.

  120. Tintarella di Luna

    Kerry O’Brien, couldn’t crack it in the commercial world of having to deliver so scurried back quick smart to get back into the iron-lung at Aunty’s place.

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