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		<title>By: kae</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-2/#comment-703466</link>
		<dc:creator>kae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sniff test?

In recent years a couple of foreign tourists in Aus followed the instructions of their GPS (known in my family as &quot;the Dash Lady&quot;) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/travel/travel-news/taking-the-most-direct-route-to-straddie-20120315-1v85m.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;drove into the ocean (Moreton Bay)&lt;/a&gt;.

They could SEE the sea, but they just followed the instructions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sniff test?</p>
<p>In recent years a couple of foreign tourists in Aus followed the instructions of their GPS (known in my family as &#8220;the Dash Lady&#8221;) and <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/travel/travel-news/taking-the-most-direct-route-to-straddie-20120315-1v85m.html" rel="nofollow">drove into the ocean (Moreton Bay)</a>.</p>
<p>They could SEE the sea, but they just followed the instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jannie</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-2/#comment-703454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps the answer – is note to Belgium: ‘the next time some big power plans to use your country as a doormat invasion route – deal with it yourselves’ ??&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Its not &#039;big power&#039; invasion that they are experiencing.  The invaders are arrriving without weapons and are still being subsidised and nurtured by the erstwhile defenders.  The occupation will become evident when they replace the Napoleonic legal tradition with  Sharia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps the answer – is note to Belgium: ‘the next time some big power plans to use your country as a doormat invasion route – deal with it yourselves’ ??</p></blockquote>
<p>Its not &#8216;big power&#8217; invasion that they are experiencing.  The invaders are arrriving without weapons and are still being subsidised and nurtured by the erstwhile defenders.  The occupation will become evident when they replace the Napoleonic legal tradition with  Sharia.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrrdin Seren</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-1/#comment-702568</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrrdin Seren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Further to the above - a neat coincidence.

Daniel Hannan - who clearly is no fan of the EU, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100198481/guy-verhofstadt-unintentionally-makes-the-case-for-british-withdrawal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;posts&lt;/a&gt; this little observation:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Guy Verhofstadt, leader of the Euro-liberals, is developing an obsession with the British. He really doesn&#039;t like us. And, as you can tell from the applause and laughter in the chamber, nor do many MEPs. It has recently become fashionable, in all the political groups, to sneer at the United Kingdom.

In the above clip, the former Belgian PM pours his contempt upon a speech which he hasn&#039;t yet heard: the one David Cameron is due to deliver on Friday. It is enough for him to know that the speech will be made by the British leader.

He tells us that we – or at least the 80 per cent of us who want powers back from Brussels – are &quot;stupid&quot;. Yet, oddly, he doesn&#039;t want us to leave.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Perhaps the answer -  is  note to Belgium: &#039;the next time some big power plans to use your country as a doormat invasion route - deal with it yourselves&#039; ??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to the above &#8211; a neat coincidence.</p>
<p>Daniel Hannan &#8211; who clearly is no fan of the EU, <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100198481/guy-verhofstadt-unintentionally-makes-the-case-for-british-withdrawal/" rel="nofollow">posts</a> this little observation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Guy Verhofstadt, leader of the Euro-liberals, is developing an obsession with the British. He really doesn&#8217;t like us. And, as you can tell from the applause and laughter in the chamber, nor do many MEPs. It has recently become fashionable, in all the political groups, to sneer at the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>In the above clip, the former Belgian PM pours his contempt upon a speech which he hasn&#8217;t yet heard: the one David Cameron is due to deliver on Friday. It is enough for him to know that the speech will be made by the British leader.</p>
<p>He tells us that we – or at least the 80 per cent of us who want powers back from Brussels – are &#8220;stupid&#8221;. Yet, oddly, he doesn&#8217;t want us to leave.
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<p>Perhaps the answer &#8211;  is  note to Belgium: &#8216;the next time some big power plans to use your country as a doormat invasion route &#8211; deal with it yourselves&#8217; ??</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-1/#comment-702530</link>
		<dc:creator>.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want a crass American like the Sham-Wow! guy egging me on to advanced levels of road rage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want a crass American like the Sham-Wow! guy egging me on to advanced levels of road rage.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-1/#comment-702527</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JC, this pompous Hammy-type guy came with the package.

However, if you think I would let the Hairy Irish Ape have a &#039;seductive Irish female&#039; whispering sweet directions in his ear (he does drive my car sometimes), then you know nothing of the green-eyed jealousy bug.  Mrs. JC must be a true angel.

Without adequate reason, I suffer from that bug at times - the polite and &#039;submissively womanly&#039; female  (as the ideal that Japanese men desire) was the third voice in our Japanese hire car and sent HIA into enough of a spin for my liking. Fortunately, his car&#039;s GPS has a briskly robust chappy instructing.

Pity me, Nilk, for I also suffer from FND.  Guess I am just an oestrogenic mess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, this pompous Hammy-type guy came with the package.</p>
<p>However, if you think I would let the Hairy Irish Ape have a &#8216;seductive Irish female&#8217; whispering sweet directions in his ear (he does drive my car sometimes), then you know nothing of the green-eyed jealousy bug.  Mrs. JC must be a true angel.</p>
<p>Without adequate reason, I suffer from that bug at times &#8211; the polite and &#8216;submissively womanly&#8217; female  (as the ideal that Japanese men desire) was the third voice in our Japanese hire car and sent HIA into enough of a spin for my liking. Fortunately, his car&#8217;s GPS has a briskly robust chappy instructing.</p>
<p>Pity me, Nilk, for I also suffer from FND.  Guess I am just an oestrogenic mess.</p>
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		<title>By: BM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Someone should tamper with Gillard’s GPS. Put a restraining voice into it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmmm....

Can you imagine a GPS &lt;em&gt;with&lt;/em&gt; Gillard&#039;s voice?

&quot;At the next indersekshun, turn left.&quot;

&quot;You have lost your way.  Increase speed and keep moving forward.&quot;

&quot;There will be no Google Maps in a vehicle I lead.&quot;

/shudders violently]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Someone should tamper with Gillard’s GPS. Put a restraining voice into it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;.</p>
<p>Can you imagine a GPS <em>with</em> Gillard&#8217;s voice?</p>
<p>&#8220;At the next indersekshun, turn left.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You have lost your way.  Increase speed and keep moving forward.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There will be no Google Maps in a vehicle I lead.&#8221;</p>
<p>/shudders violently</p>
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		<title>By: nilk</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-1/#comment-702492</link>
		<dc:creator>nilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have a GPS and couldn&#039;t think of anything worse. At one stage, I had street directories for four states and used them all. 

Plotting our your trip is nearly as much fun as the getting there. 

It probably helps that I don&#039;t suffer from FND* and seem to have a knack for maps. 


*FND = Female Navigational Disorder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a GPS and couldn&#8217;t think of anything worse. At one stage, I had street directories for four states and used them all. </p>
<p>Plotting our your trip is nearly as much fun as the getting there. </p>
<p>It probably helps that I don&#8217;t suffer from FND* and seem to have a knack for maps. </p>
<p>*FND = Female Navigational Disorder.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-1/#comment-702477</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lizzie

You have the wrong car. I have a very seductive Irish female telling me what to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lizzie</p>
<p>You have the wrong car. I have a very seductive Irish female telling me what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrrdin Seren</title>
		<link>http://catallaxyfiles.com/2013/01/16/government-control/comment-page-1/#comment-702470</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrrdin Seren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lizzie

&lt;blockquote&gt;could a more independent Britain do any worse than it does right now ?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


No small question and a huge spectrum of opinion.


For example, there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/world-commentary/david-camerons-vision-of-europe-is-a-failure/story-e6frg6ux-1226555362000&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; one in today&#039;s Oz, where the author states:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Britain, as French officials repeatedly point out, has managed to shape the EU more in its own mould than the persistent national distress with this debate would imply.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Well, Britain has managed to stay out of the euro disaster AND provides a big tranche of the EU budget, so presumably has some influence.


But if you follow some of North&#039;s other commentary about the loss of much British industry due to EU regulation - most especially the absurd energy policies - well.  I would be taking French officials&#039; jaded view on Britain and the EC with a huge grain of salt.


North and his co-author Christopher Booker have pointed out that a lot of the original &#039;movers&#039; on the EU were French and Germans from both sides of the Rhine around Lorraine and the Ruhr - who had seen the armies go stomping back-and-forth in 1870 and 1914, and wanted to find a way to prevent recurrence.

They got a huge boost in the post-WW2 reconstruction, as everyone danced around to ensure there would never be a Fourth Reich.


From the perspective of the anglophone sceptic, instead of hamstringing German ambition, it seems a lot of effort of the EUrocrats now involves taking Britain back down about four pegs, and emptying the Treasury for good measure.

Long memories, some folk seem to still have a chip on their shoulders about Horatio Nelson and the Duke of Wellington ? 

The enthusiastic assent of most of the British political class to becoming mere regional administrators in the ever-rolling plan to abolish the European nation states is baffling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lizzie</p>
<blockquote><p>could a more independent Britain do any worse than it does right now ?</p></blockquote>
<p>No small question and a huge spectrum of opinion.</p>
<p>For example, there is <a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/world-commentary/david-camerons-vision-of-europe-is-a-failure/story-e6frg6ux-1226555362000" rel="nofollow">this</a> one in today&#8217;s Oz, where the author states:</p>
<blockquote><p>Britain, as French officials repeatedly point out, has managed to shape the EU more in its own mould than the persistent national distress with this debate would imply.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Britain has managed to stay out of the euro disaster AND provides a big tranche of the EU budget, so presumably has some influence.</p>
<p>But if you follow some of North&#8217;s other commentary about the loss of much British industry due to EU regulation &#8211; most especially the absurd energy policies &#8211; well.  I would be taking French officials&#8217; jaded view on Britain and the EC with a huge grain of salt.</p>
<p>North and his co-author Christopher Booker have pointed out that a lot of the original &#8216;movers&#8217; on the EU were French and Germans from both sides of the Rhine around Lorraine and the Ruhr &#8211; who had seen the armies go stomping back-and-forth in 1870 and 1914, and wanted to find a way to prevent recurrence.</p>
<p>They got a huge boost in the post-WW2 reconstruction, as everyone danced around to ensure there would never be a Fourth Reich.</p>
<p>From the perspective of the anglophone sceptic, instead of hamstringing German ambition, it seems a lot of effort of the EUrocrats now involves taking Britain back down about four pegs, and emptying the Treasury for good measure.</p>
<p>Long memories, some folk seem to still have a chip on their shoulders about Horatio Nelson and the Duke of Wellington ? </p>
<p>The enthusiastic assent of most of the British political class to becoming mere regional administrators in the ever-rolling plan to abolish the European nation states is baffling.</p>
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		<title>By: ken n</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Useful metaphor, but I&#039;ll bet the story is a myth.
It does not pass the sniff test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful metaphor, but I&#8217;ll bet the story is a myth.<br />
It does not pass the sniff test.</p>
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