Wednesday Forum: January 16, 2013

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  1. Tracey

    I’m sure you’re right Louis. I now think that I possibly never had a Trojan infection at all despite the error message I was getting. The mere suggestion of a virus spooks me though. Is Spamhaus itself dodgy?

  2. Louis Hissink

    I should add that my previous comment applies to Wintel machines – business types don’t muck around with niche operating systems and computers like Apfel.

  3. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Bird JimD:

    Faggot pain in the arse idiot shit from clay gut ache faggott up its arse.
    Fuck arseholes fucking fuckwits fucking fuckwit fucking shits

    yes! We have a left-wing intellectual here. One can tell from the delicacy and nuance of its written word.

    Although it’s also apparent that he enjoys both pederasty and acting out a certain German film genre with his catamite and coprophilic ‘friends’.

    Whatever floats his boat.

  4. Louis Hissink

    Tracey

    Spamhaus? Never heard of it. I run Windows 8 or Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7 back to Windows XP in the office. Never have a problem with viruses, and if so, they are quickly sorted.

    Have your computer literate offspring pay for their board and meals by resetting Outlook :-)

  5. Tracey

    I think he wants you Mk50. Really badly.

  6. C.L.

    Tracey, my experience of Bigpond’s phone techs is that they’re excellent.

  7. blogstrop

    I see I haven’t missed much – just the old one-note piccolo from a bygone age.
    I was going to mention the gold going back to Germany yesterday, but got distracted. It has some legs as a story about fear of future hyperinflation and currency collapse, the usual end to QE, isn’t it?

  8. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Tracey, that may be the funniest, and also the repellent, post I have seen in many a month.

    Well done indeed!

    To paraphrase Jed Clampett: Ah think ah’ll lock all the doors now’n fetch mah rifle.

  9. Tracey

    For peace and harmony on the blog perhaps you could just assume the position?

  10. Alice

    Come on Mk50!! LOL
    it is very very funny but you exaggerated just a tiny little weemsy bit…
    with the f words quoted from Jim D

  11. Alice

    LOL Tracey….
    is that kneel down with rifle poking out window between curtains position?

  12. John Mc

    You probably should be sending your outgoing mail via Bigpond’s SMTP servers not sending them direct. I’m not surprised that a bunch of Bigpond’s customer IPs would be blacklisted. And your IP will change over time so getting just one of them unblocked won’t really help.

    I had this problem some time back. Telstra often won’t let you use their SMTP servers through another ISP; they’ll tell you to use your ISP’s SMTP servers. However, you’ll probably find that your ISP won’t let you use their SMTP servers with the Telstra return address.

    I pissed off the Telstra email address and went to Gmail. Great decision especially across multiple platforms.

    Then I got rid of Telstra entirely. They’re popular with a lot of people but I reckon an average ISP with really poor support and a dog’s breakfast of a website.

    I’d recommend iiNet (or Netspace or Westnet; same bunch). Great support, big effort to integrate with other services and they’ve done a lot of work off their own back to oppose internet censorship.

  13. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Bob Brown or JimD I ain’t.

    Besides, you used the words ‘peace and harmony’ and ‘this blog’ in the same sentence.

    This may cause the interent to melt.

  14. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Read the following from a commenter on Michael Smith’s blog:

    Forensic experts have identified the source of the yellow snow at the ski resort and DNA proves that the yellow snow writing saying “RUDD SUX” is Swan’s, but handwriting experts confirm it is Gillard’s handwriting.

    LOL

  15. boy on a bike

    What’s your favourite ice cream to eat in this heat?

  16. Tracey

    I always enjoy a Clampett quote but when I saw an earlier post from Jim D what flashed into my mind was the ‘… but suddenly a new contender has emerged…’ from the always brilliant George Costanza.

  17. Tracey

    I’ll take that on board John Mc. I’m in a regional area though so for where I am Telstra is the only reliable option for mobile coverage, at least for now. I certainly have no fondness for them though.

  18. Gab

    Tracey, my experience of Bigpond’s phone techs is that they’re excellent.

    make mine a double on that, Tracey.

  19. Tracey

    Ice cream is no good when you’re nearing 40 degrees boy on a bike. What you need is a Paddle Pop Lemonade ice block. Or one of those old pine-orange ones. I can’t remember the brand now but haven’t seen them in years. God I loved them as a kid.

  20. Gab

    What’s your favourite ice cream to eat in this heat?

    I had a Green Apple scoop and a Coconut scoop – i.e. separate scoops from a little but upmarket homemade ice cream parlour. Yummo.

  21. Alice

    I used to love caramel triple treats and vienna chocolates except both were discontinued years ago and I dont like these monster magnums (too much chocolate and too fat) sigh.n
    Mango slushies home made have been good – just mango and ice. Pineapple might go OK in it as well.

  22. Dangph

    “Connection refused. ISP ############## is listed on the Exploits Block List.”
    When I go to the Spamhaus website and enter my ISP it brings up the CBL link.

    Don’t they tell you how to remove the block?

  23. boy on a bike

    Love a mango Weis bar – best thing to come out of Queensland.

  24. John Mc

    Your ABC reports on the fulfilment of another of the Cat’s prophecies:

    Call for tax on sugary soft drinks

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-17/call-for-tax-on-sugary-soft-drinks/4468924

  25. Dangph

    While I’m babbling, what do you gurus recommend virus protection-wise? I’ve used a few over the years and everyone seems to suggest something different.

    They often go up and down in quality. When I investigated this question last, Bitdefender seemed to be the best. I’ve been using it for a while now, and I’m pretty happy with it.

  26. Alice

    Oh bugger John Mc – another of lifes little pleasures hit with a tax

  27. Tracey

    I must be a freak. I like ice cream (Sarah Lea Ultra Chocolate, yummm) but it always makes me feel thirsty and crave water after I’ve eaten it.

  28. JimD

    Quote as in quote not faggott shot.Typical of loser/liars misrepresenting what others may have said.
    But, congratulations on collating a set of unconnected words into such a self descriptive sentence.

  29. Tom

    Haven’t lived ’til you’ve inhaled a tub of this, best washed down with a bottle of bright green liquid sugar.

  30. Gab

    best washed down with a bottle of bright green liquid sugar.

    Midori? Really?

  31. Dangph

    Call for tax on sugary soft drinks

    According to the lefty law of ironic consequences, the ban will end up making people fatter.

    It could happen like this: People will start drinking sugarless soft drinks instead. However, there is some evidence that these drinks make you fat. They mess up your brain’s ability to detect calories from sugar, so people could end up eating more than they realize.

  32. Tom

    Or a hand-made OP Bundy and Coke.

  33. Rabz

    Worst. Open. Thread. Evah.

    You people have really got to learn that the only way to respond to that self aggrandizing, staggeringly stupid, morbidly obese, syphilis addled, utterly insane ol’ boomer deadshit is to heap unrelenting abuse on unrelenting abuse.

    Do not attempt to engage the braying ol’ donkey in any kind of debate, you will merely end up looking as staggeringly stupid as it is.

    The vile sanctimonious piece of shit is not welcome here, it aggravates the regulars no end and is long overdue for a banning.

    If evah there was a more cliched, pathetic, utterly contemptibly stereotypical marxist twat totally unworthy of any serious consideration, it would be a nearing 70, drug addled boomer hippy who had the misfortune to be ‘conscripted’ during the era of peace, lurve and syphilis, man, duuhhhh.

    yourself who simply cannot go past any opportunity to point out that you were sent to Vietnam

    Where the lobotomised ol’ pansy spent its entire time peeling potatoes.

    Enough, FFS.

    In the real world no one else puts up with the sad, stupid ol’ clown – why the fuck are we?

  34. Sinclair Davidson

    Too much red cordial at the Canberra Cat Collective meeting?

  35. Dangph

    Rabz, you are probably right. I’ve learned that Numbers doesn’t argue in good faith. If you pin him down, he will just squirm around and come out with some new nonsense.

  36. hzhouswife

    You need a 20 year old tech head in the house. Seriously, they are amazing and cost nothing.

    You are VERY lucky Alice, I have one who is 21, and she costs me HEAPS !

  37. Rabz

    Too much red cordial at the Canberra Cat Collective meeting?

    This could be alleged!

  38. JimD

    Rabz,I presume you are referring to MK50 and I totally agree with you.

  39. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Well Mk50 (and others in support) haven’t you had a time of it :) bringing on Brave Warrior Bob on a day when he clearly skipped his medication.

    What a spittle flecked, intemperate – barking mad in fact – performance during today from the numbers hero. I venture those chips on his shoulders are embiggening by the day, in direct proportion to the number of times he attempts to duck direct questions by scrambling on all fours down blind alleys of deafness, obfuscation and downright lies.

    I can assure the younger ones here that the reception by the public of soldiers returning from Vietnam was nowhere near as poor as what my-many-magnificent-numbers claims. The photographic and news record is there to see of universally applauded marches, armed marches, down the main streets of cities. I have posted links here before, to show the truth of it.

    There was a small number of isolated incidents staged for the media by the minority – minority – protestor groups, but the passage of time has nurtured the hyperbowl of the maniacally extreme rewriters of history for their own nefarious purposes, whatever they are, including self aggrandisement. The people of whom this surly old goat complains are the very people he openly admits to supporting politically.

    It was the Liberal Party/National Party that decided to withdraw from Vietnam, not Comrade Gough. There was a handful of Australians remaining when he took office. The withdrawal was well advanced long before numbers went near the joint.

    I’ll repeat what I’ve noted here before – numerous mates were full time, lifetime, soldiers and air crew serving in Vietnam and many other places for significant periods, not mere months. They comport themselves with quiet dignity, just as any man proud of his craft, and they are nothing at all like numbers.

    On Vietnam now and then we give ‘em plenty on the result, and they just smile and stand defiantly in the treasured Ho Chi Minh t-shirts we struck for one of them, printed with “Silver Medallist, Asian Games, 1962-1972.”

    I’ve not heard any of them ever use this charlatan’s challenge to differing opinion of “You weren’t there/shot at/exposed to icky blood/special-like-me, what would you know?” He’s a bloody disgrace for that alone.

    He’d not be welcome in their company.

  40. Rabz

    I’ve learned that the spudpeeler doesn’t argue in good faith.

    Yes, Dan, arguing in good faith was your first mistake.

    We’re talking about the sort of indescribable imbecile who equates voluntary voting with forced disenfranchisement.

    That type of sheer gall, vanity, dishonesty and above all, staggering stupidity, is beyond parody.

  41. John Mc

    Just a thought from flicking through (online) the New York Times (I don’t know why either):

    The US is perfectly situated to conduct some experiments with gun control. Just let those states that are most keen to ban firearms get on with it, and leave the other ones alone. Pass extreme laws about illegal firearms in that state and worse ones for bringing them into the state. Have enforced gun buybacks and more gun free zones. Start with California.

    Let the other more government-orientated states like Vermont, Maine, maybe the Pacific Northwest do a Switzerland and have more laws for storage and gun free zones etc.

    And let Texas, New Hampshire, Arizona etc just do their thing largely unregulated.

    Lets see how things pan out.

  42. Rabz

    I presume you are referring to MK50 and I totally agree with you

    Oh goody – more roadkill.

  43. sdfc

    Given the freedom of movement, having unlimited gun access in some states is likely to have a detrimental effect on firearms control in other states.

  44. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Oh goody – more roadkill.”

    I’m with you Rabz me old china, but be swift in your ruthlessness ‘cos it’s Friday and I’m tired.

  45. sdfc

    Other than that it is a good idea.

  46. Mk50 of Brisbane

    Bird JimD:

    Quote as in quote not faggott shot.Typical of loser/liars misrepresenting what others may have said.
    But, congratulations on collating a set of unconnected words into such a self descriptive sentence.

    target hit and burning brightly, eh?

    All your words, child. All your words. Now crawl off and cry under your flat rock.

    You can get back to your catamites now.

    Mick – agreed. I also know quite a few Vietnam vets, hell, I’ve served with enough of them. Quiet dignity describes nearly all of them, especially the ex-ARVN guys.

    None of that with this nancyboy, though, mores the pity.

  47. Eddystone

    “Silver Medallist, Asian Games, 1962-1972.”

    Classic! That’s real Aussie humour.

    Great post Mick. I admit numbers was starting to piss me off, although I didn’t respond to him.

    You expressed better than I could what a wanker he is, past service notwithstanding.

  48. Rabz

    Thanks Mick,

    But I’m not wading back through that utter sewer.

    Whatever it is, will get what’s coming to it.

  49. John Mc

    Given the freedom of movement, having unlimited gun access in some states is likely to have a detrimental effect on firearms control in other states.

    This is always going to be an issue no matter what. There’s a third of the world’s firearms there in private hands to start with. The nature of the US’s borders are always going to the same, especially with Mexico; it’s an issue in Australia and we don’t have any borders.

    Just let those who like regulation enact more extreme laws and enforcement to get the guns out of their states. Even if it’s not perfect it could be reasonably expected that some of your desired outcomes should start to manifest, surely.

  50. Rabz

    “You weren’t there/shot at/exposed to icky blood/special-like-me, what would you know?” He’s a bloody disgrace for that alone.

    Quite so.

  51. John Mc

    I’m obviously ignoring the Second Amendment being universal and now an individual right incorporated against the states. But just do the best you can; California has been pretty creative with passing bans and taxes etc on stuff in the past in the most un-American fashion! Just continue that theme.

  52. JimD

    And, Sinc seeing as you are on deck perhaps you could extrude an apology on my behalf from rocketman for the really over the top false character inference and portrayal of random words over a period as an allin one statement.

  53. Dangph

    Yes, Dan, arguing in good faith was your first mistake.

    And my second mistake was … ?

  54. Chris

    John Mc – that only works if you’re willing to also have interstate customs inspections to the level done for international trade between states. Otherwise smuggling is trivial. Criminals basically get their guns from very few sources – buy it themselves if they are allowed to or can avoid background checks, steal it from someone who legally owns it, or buy a smuggled gun.

    Reducing the number of guns in the population and imposing restrictions on ownership helps with the first two, but you also need to address smuggling. Australia has a bit of a natural advantage which is perhaps one reason why restrictive gun legislation works here pretty well. But IIRC perhaps because of the ease of buying guns in the US most gun smuggling in the states is mostly exports – guns sent to Mexico where the laws are more restrictive in exchange for drugs (and most of it is not done by the government :-)

  55. John Mc

    “You weren’t there/shot at/exposed to icky blood/special-like-me, what would you know?” He’s a bloody disgrace for that alone.

    Take it easy on the guy. He was once used as target practice in the section circle jerk. He can’t deal with the feelings that he enjoyed it, and kept secretly hoping it would happen again.

  56. John Mc

    There is no non-porous border. Show somewhere that has stopped the drug trade.

  57. Gab

    They comport themselves with quiet dignity, just as any man proud of his craft, and they are nothing at all like numbers.

    On Vietnam now and then we give ‘em plenty on the result, and they just smile and stand defiantly in the treasured Ho Chi Minh t-shirts we struck for one of them, printed with “Silver Medallist, Asian Games, 1962-1972.”

    I’ve not heard any of them ever use this charlatan’s challenge to differing opinion of “You weren’t there/shot at/exposed to icky blood/special-like-me, what would you know?” He’s a bloody disgrace for that alone.

    Ah, Mick what a treasure you are. At times.
    Seriously though, you are correct in that people respond negatively towards someone who is the complete opposite of those brave souls who “comport themselves with quiet dignity” in terms of their service to this country. His blaring announcement of his service number was enough to make me suspicious of him. I mean who does that other than someone wanting to elicit what? Sympathy? Pity? Lord it over us thinking no one else here has been on active duty? Such arrogance! He should be ashamed of himself.

  58. Chris

    Don’t they tell you how to remove the block?

    In all likelyhood Tracey doesn’t own the IP, Telstra do. And its probably on the blacklist for a good reason such as one of Telstra’s customers used it in the past to spam. And unless she’s paid for a fixed IP address (unlikely I’d guess) it’ll change every now and then when she reconnects. I wouldn’t be surprised if whole blocks of Telstra IPs are listed in spamhaus.

    Unless you really know what you’re doing you should be using your ISP’s mail server to relay your outgoing mail for you. Quite a few ISPs simply block their customers from sending email directly as too many windows users end up with bots on their computers which send spam.

  59. Rabz

    And my second mistake was … ?

    Being civil to the narcissistic ol’ bleepgobbler.

  60. Rabz

    Apologies Dan – I take that back, you’ve dished out as much well deserved abuse as anyone.

    You only made that one mistake after all, it seems.

    Great stuff.

  61. Andrew

    Did anyone see this interview on Aunty with Malcolm Fraser?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/programs/one-plus-one/

    I understand why the guy was an unsuccessful Prime Minister, even if he was before my lifetime. Reading about him as well, makes me think that he could be up there with Whitlam, Rudd and the Slapper as Australia’s worst PM’s.

  62. Eddystone

    But IIRC perhaps because of the ease of buying guns in the US most gun smuggling in the states is mostly exports – guns sent to Mexico where the laws are more restrictive in exchange for drugs (and most of it is not done by the government

    That sounds like the old “90% of illegal guns in Mexico were bought in the USA” trick, which I’m sure you know has been thoroughly debunked.

  63. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    ” “Silver Medallist, Asian Games, 1962-1972.”

    Classic! That’s real Aussie humour.”

    Eddystone – that particular mate visited Hanoi a few years back, by air this time because, he said “I tried walking a couple of times before but it was hot and dry and people were shooting at me.”

    When he returned his wife told us of his sneaky souvenir Ho Chi Minh t-shirt purchase and she smuggled it to us to have it copied and done up as described, for presentation to him and several others at the welcome back barbeque. His grin was a sight to see.

    Thanks for your kind remarks too.

  64. sdfc

    You’re right John it should at least have some impact regardless of the law in other states.

    If only to make it harder for sad losers to get their hands on guns to shoot up schools.

  65. John Mc

    I’m pretty confident the differences would be negligible. But of course others feel differently. Let the experiment role on!

  66. John Mc

    Reading about him as well, makes me think that he could be up there with Whitlam, Rudd and the Slapper as Australia’s worst PM’s.

    Without doubt he’s in the bottom third.

  67. Andrew

    Without doubt he’s in the bottom third.

    It would be interesting to look at who people regard as Australia’s best PM over our history. Obviously some of the earlier PM’s may become unnoticed, but it would be an interesting poll or discussion.

  68. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Malcolm Fraser?

    I understand why the guy was an unsuccessful Prime Minister, even if he was before my lifetime.”

    He had a fabulous majority and the support of the people to walk back much of the rubbish Comrade Gough, National Gold Nugget, enacted. He had years to do it and some outstanding ministers, but he didn’t. He presided over one of the great wasted opportunities in post WWII politics.

  69. Skuter

    Too much red cordial at the Canberra Cat Collective meeting?

    Nowhere near enough.

  70. Rabz

    Did anyone see this interview on Aunty with Malcolm Fraser?

    Did anyone listen to the collected ‘speeches’ of juliar dullard?

    Did anyone extract their own teeth without anaesthetic?

    Etc, etc, etc.

    FFS.

  71. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Ah, Mick what a treasure you are. At times.”

    Ha! I say to you Gabrielle, just Ha!

  72. stackja

    Teen rioter Omar Halaby gets good behaviour for his role in Muslim protests

    Magistrate Pat O’Shane said she expected Halaby had already been counselled within his own community and praised Islamic leaders for condemning the violent protests.

  73. Chris

    That sounds like the old “90% of illegal guns in Mexico were bought in the USA” trick, which I’m sure you know has been thoroughly debunked.

    That still seems to demonstrate that the flow of guns is from the US to Mexico rather than vice-versa. There could be traffic in the other direction but it would be rather odd for people to be smuggling the same sorts of guns in both directions. Perhaps there are some weapons not available in the US that are smuggled from Mexico to the US, but I haven’t seen any stats on that.

  74. Dangph

    Apologies Dan – I take that back, you’ve dished out as much well deserved abuse as anyone.

    Rabz, I think Sinclair may be an evil scientist—an evil social scientist—who is observing how people people behave in a laissez-faire world.

  75. H B Bear

    How long is it taking to get rid of Pat O’Shane? Or are they waiting for her to drop off the twig like Lionel Murphy?

    She is a national disgrace.

  76. Eddystone

    Fair enough Chris, I think I missed the point! :)

  77. Gab

    Isn’t O’Shane under investigation for some of her recent judgments?

  78. entropy

    Pat O”Shane is still in business?

  79. Rabz

    … a national disgrace.

    Thanks Bear,

    I’ve just had to edit myself on this very topic.

    Sinc wouldn’t have been happy…

  80. Andrew

    Did anyone listen to the collected ‘speeches’ of juliar dullard?

    Did anyone extract their own teeth without anaesthetic?

    Etc, etc, etc.

    FFS.

    Point taken. I just think the interview highlights the earlier discussion on here about how he would be regarded in the lower third or quarter of the Australian PM’s

  81. Tracey

    “Unless you really know what you’re doing you should be using your ISP’s mail server to relay your outgoing mail for you”

    As I thought would be embarrassingly evident from my questions I’m under no illusions about my IT abilities and do use the default/recommended BigPond server settings.

  82. Rabz

    He presided over one of the great wasted opportunities in post WWII politics.

    As did frigging “BPV” hoWARd…

  83. entropy

    Reading about him as well, makes me think that he could be up there with Whitlam, Rudd and the Slapper as Australia’s worst PM’s.

    Agree with that, but you also mustn’t forget Billy McMahon, just for shear ineffectiveness. His only redeeming feature being Sonya was much better looking than her successor.

    As for best PMs, I am thinking Lyons, Hawke, and Howard in the top three.

  84. entropy

    shear=sheer. bit woolly this evening.

  85. Cold-Hands

    How many more years will we have to endure Pat O’Shane’s stupidity and incompetence? How long before mandatory retirement for age or FITH syndrome?

  86. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Pat O’Shane? …

    She is a national disgrace.”

    She was that right from the jump H B Bear. I don’t recall the year she was appointed – about ’85? – but she has been peddling snarling racist hatred and gross errors for the entire period.

    She is 72 now and bitter, bitter, bitter. Just what one needs on the bench in a modern society, eh?

  87. H B Bear

    It would be interesting to look at who people regard as Australia’s best PM over our history. Obviously some of the earlier PM’s may become unnoticed, but it would be an interesting poll or discussion.

    The first term Hawke/Keating government would be head and shoulders the best in the last 30 years IMO. Hawke had a great depth of ministers and let them get on with it. From what I have read, he made the Cabinet work very effectively – which is really what you want, not this quasi-Presidential situation that seems to have been allowed to develop in Australia.

  88. Rabz

    Andrew,

    I’m enough of a dinobore to be able to remember what a frigging pompous mediocrity fraser was – but not old enough to vote until 1983, when I voted informal.

    They (pantsoff and pissed bobby) just seemed like such vainglorious, sanctimonious ol’ wafflers at the time.

    Of absolutely no relevance whatsoever to a teenaged economics student.

  89. Gab

    MAGISTRATE Pat O’Shane failed to act impartially and treated police prosecutors in a “discourteous, pre-emptory and high-handed” way, a Sydney hearing has been told.

    Ms O’Shane, 71, faced the conduct division of the NSW Judicial Commission today in relation to complaints made against her by NSW Attorney-General Greg Smith and police Chief Superintendent Tony Trichter.

    Counsel assisting the commission, Jeremy Gormly SC, said the tribunal would hear evidence Ms O’Shane acted in a partial manner in four cases between 2007 and 2012.

    Ms O’Shane could be referred to NSW parliament for the consideration of her removal or to the chief magistrate, depending on the findings of the conduct division.

    She is due to retire next June when she turns 72.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/magistrate-pat-oshane-not-impartial-hearing-told/story-e6frg6nf-1226539679872

  90. Cold-Hands

    O’Shane faced the conduct division of the NSW Judicial Commission in December and has to retire when she turns 72 in June. I imagine that this Halaby business will be yet another case taken to the Supreme Court for Appeal. By rights she should be fined for each one of her stuff ups.

  91. Andrew

    Rabz,

    Clearly you know more about it more than me, not disregarding you at all.

  92. Infidel Tiger

    You’d love to appear before O’Shane.

    I’d be getting a quick spray tan and donning Fez if I had to.

  93. Rabz

    I think Sinclair may be an evil scientist—an evil social scientist—who is observing how people people behave in a laissez-faire world.

    Agreed.

  94. Skuter

    She is 72 now and bitter, bitter, bitter. Just what one needs on the bench in a modern society, eh?

    Fuck it, let’s make her PM. Or maybe our first president.

  95. John Mc

    As for best PMs, I am thinking Lyons, Hawke, and Howard in the top three.

    Surely Menzies would be number one.

  96. Rabz

    You’d love to appear before O’Shane.

    Oppressed minority status I is, massah boss ladee!

  97. johanna

    I can assure Sinc and all that no red cordial was consumed at tonight’s Canberra Cats meeting. Not a drop.

    In fact, we sat around in cracked leather armchairs in front of a roaring fire, puffing on cigars dipped in 60 year old cognac. In between the Chateau Latour and vintage Krug, our central objective, as usual, was to work out new ways of grinding down the poor.

    You had to be there.

  98. JC

    SDFC:

    Good luck JC. I see it it 90 overnight. What’s your target and your stop-loss.

    I think it will get to 140 in a few years. The move at the moment is anticipated but the weight of money hasn’t moved through the system yet.

    The amount of monetary easing they have to do to get to a 2% inflation target and keep it there is enormous, I think.

    Just think $85 billion the US has going nudged inflation expectations from around 1.4% to 1.7%. The japs have a 3% differential as they currently have deflation of around 1% pa. So if you equalize to the size of the US and look at in terms of the US economy… they need to push out:

    1.7 – 1.4 = .3

    3 divided by .3 = 10

    10 x 85 billion = $850 billion. That would be the size in US terms.

    US economy is around 15 trillion while japan is around 4.4

    So we should be seeing around 250 billion of asset purchases per month there. (4.4/15 x 850 = 250)

  99. kae

    Alice
    Don’t tell porkies. You weren’t banned.
    Sinclair said there was a problem with the spam filter.

  100. John Mc

    Magistrate Pat O’Shane

    ’nuff said. Every one of her rulings should be struck from the record.

  101. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Hawke had a great depth of ministers and let them get on with it. … he made the Cabinet work very effectively”

    That is correct H B Bear. Putting prefered political parties and policy crticisms aside for a moment, his Cabinet had confident, capable blokes from all corners of business and many professions. It was a place of serious examination, discussion and review (there is no such place now) and Hawke let that process run and succeed.

    He was enormously popular before and during that early period and the great contradiction is that during this time the NSW Right was a case study in party discipline and collective, disciplined action, the Melbourne Left was similarly very powerful yet Hawke led successfully without being a member of either, or any, faction (they did describe his group as Centre Unity but it was a loose and fluid grouping at best).

  102. Skuter

    Lyons has to be up there. Menzies too, if not just for longevity. Howard and Hawke can fight it out for third…

  103. John Mc

    If KRudd proves that anyone can make the top office in the land regardless of competence – and his prime ministership proves exactly that – O’Shane proves that anyone can be a High Court judge and you can make up rulings as you like.

  104. Rabz

    they did describe his group as Centre Unity but it was a loose and fluid grouping at best

    Interesting – I was part of the “student unity” faction at Uni, but in reality, only because they had the hotter birds. However, there was the odd hot commie chick…

  105. Infidel Tiger

    Australia has never had a best PM. But what more can you expect of a nation that has Ned Kelly as an icon.

  106. Skuter

    In fact, we sat around in cracked leather armchairs in front of a roaring fire, puffing on cigars dipped in 60 year old cognac. In between the Chateau Latour and vintage Krug, our central objective, as usual, was to work out new ways of grinding down the poor.

    We also discussed baby meat recipes…

  107. John Mc

    but in reality, only because they had the hotter birds

    I ask you, how many political and social choices have been made for that reason? I once took an elective at uni based solely on the fact the lecturer was extremely easy on the eye.

  108. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “at tonight’s Canberra Cats meeting … our central objective, as usual, was to work out new ways of grinding down the poor”

    Praise be to Allah the Overseer, johanna, that some of the people here have been doing serious and essential business today!

  109. John Mc

    Australia has never had a best PM. But what more can you expect of a nation that has Ned Kelly as an icon.

    There’s more to the Kelly story than Teh Left’s attempts to undermine the legend. Don’t buy into it. He’s up there with the Eureka Stockade (which, BTW, like your assessment of our PM’s, was a pretty lame rebellion but it’s all we’ve got).

  110. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “I was part of the “student unity” faction at Uni, but in reality, only because they had the hotter birds. However, there was the odd hot commie chick”

    There’s not a cigarette paper between you and Hawkie then Rabz! :) :)

  111. John Mc

    “In fact, we sat around in cracked leather armchairs in front of a roaring fire, puffing on cigars dipped in 60 year old cognac. In between the Chateau Latour and vintage Krug, our central objective, as usual, was to work out new ways of grinding down the poor.

    We also discussed baby meat recipes…

    Bless you.

  112. squawkbox

    We also discussed baby meat recipes…

    Don’t tell me you’ve run out of endangered species?

  113. Fleeced

    US politician proposes violent video games tax to “help prevent mass shootings”

    *sigh*

    From the article:

    Following the Sandy Hook tragedy, the National Rifle Association wasted no time implicating the video game industry, calling it a “callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.”

    *sigh*

    That’s the real problem. It’s not so much a case of “First they came for the smokers,” but, “First we sicced them onto the smokers…”

  114. kae

    BoaB, Tracey

    Hawaiian Delight.

    Yum!

    Now gone. :(

  115. Infidel Tiger

    There’s more to the Kelly story than Teh Left’s attempts to undermine the legend. Don’t buy into it.

    It was the left that created the Kelly myth.

    He was two bit thug. In a just and righteous society we’d build statues of the copper that shot him.

  116. kae

    As for Ice Cream, I’m with Tom. Maggie’s burnt fig, honeycomb and caramel ice cream is the only one.

    But at $8 for 0.5 litres, not often!

  117. John Mc

    This what I wrote on Menzies House:

    Before you judge Ned Kelly I think you should consider the behaviour of the police, especially in regards to the initial attempt at arrest (I think of Ned Kelly but it might have been his brother) where the constable was drunk and did not have a warrant. You should also consider the underdog nature of being Irish, the inability to advance yourself from the underclass through working, and Ned’s previous act of heroism and attempts to contact the police to open dialogue before the things got out of hand.

    You should also consider that when things were out of hand and he was supposedly holding up whole towns, that clearly the population was largely complicit.

    He wasn’t an angel but he is an Australian folk hero and embodied a type of Eureka Stockade stand against oppression. Teh Left would try to undermine the legend because they don’t like people who do that.

  118. Infidel Tiger

    In a hundred years hopefully young Aussie kiddies are celebrating the life and times of Carl Williams just as we celebrate Ned.

  119. John Mc

    The Spirit of ANZAC gets replaced with the Spirit of Underbelly!

  120. Abu Chowdah

    Best icy pole for the heat is a Lime Splice.

    As for this old ex-pube, it’s winter here and a top if 20 C. Enjoying the sun as I smoke a Diplomatico No.2 and sip a cognac.

    As you were.

  121. Fleeced

    In a hundred years hopefully young Aussie kiddies are celebrating the life and times of Carl Williams just as we celebrate Ned.

    Close… the biggest crooks atm are the ALP, and no doubt history will be re-written by the left to make them a much loved, progressive, yadda yadda yadda… oh, I can’t even finish this thought without throwing up – never mind.

  122. Best cooler is make your own by sticking a tongue depressor in a placcy cup and filling it with mango juice and pulp, and a couple of passionfruit.
    Freeze the shit out of it overnight.
    Yum.

  123. kae

    Where am I gonna get a tongue depresser?

    I had trouble getting a butterfly thingy to go on the end of a syringe for pollinating frangis.

    Oh, Winston, you should see the frangis I have now!

  124. JamesK

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  125. JamesK

    Where am I gonna get a tongue depresser?

    Buy an ice lolly

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