Open Forum: January 19, 2013 at Catallaxy Files

Open Forum: January 19, 2013

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I’ve been looking so long…

Rabz

19 Jan 13 at 12:01 am
Carried over from previous thread…

US politician proposes violent video games tax to “help prevent mass shootings”

*sigh*

From the article:

Following the Sandy Hook tragedy, the National Rifle Association wasted no time implicating the video game industry, calling it a “callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.”

*sigh*

That’s the real problem. It’s not so much a case of “First they came for the smokers,” but, “First we sicced them onto the smokers…”

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:01 am
Good Grief

JQF

19 Jan 13 at 12:03 am
I’m Third!!!

JQF

19 Jan 13 at 12:05 am
Friggin’ Sinc. He lurks like a stalker in the night, then when you least expect it, bam! New Thread!

John Mc

19 Jan 13 at 12:07 am
Sixth and off to bed

Poor Old Rafe

19 Jan 13 at 12:07 am
I wonder if Hitler started out playing Civilization…

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:08 am
Bolta’s had a couple of recent posts, Blair has been on fire lol.

nic

19 Jan 13 at 12:08 am
As for Ice Cream, I’m with Tom. Maggie’s burnt fig, honeycomb and caramel ice cream is the only one.

But at $8 for 0.5 litres, not often!

Maggie’s burnt fig ice cream tastes like she would: Bitter, twisted and wanky. I’ve never liked figs and found the whole thing a massive let down.

Infidel Tiger

19 Jan 13 at 12:09 am
So, which ethnic group is McTurdman going to use for political gain this year?

Skuter

19 Jan 13 at 12:10 am
I wonder if Hitler started out playing Civilization…

Perhaps these two idiots taught how to play Risk.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 12:10 am
Following the Sandy Hook tragedy, the National Rifle Association wasted no time implicating the video game industry, calling it a “callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.”

Losers. The rate of violence in American society has fallen dramatically since video games became popular.

Just as rape has decreased since pornography became widely available.

Infidel Tiger

19 Jan 13 at 12:12 am
Evil 13th!

Abu Chowdah

19 Jan 13 at 12:15 am
That’s why we don’t have daylight saving in QLD

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:17 am
Best icy pole for the heat is a Lime Splice.
As for this old ex-pube, it’s winter here and a top if 20 C. Enjoying the sun as I smoke a Diplomatico No.2 and sip a cognac.
As you were.

Abu Chowdah

19 Jan 13 at 12:19 am
IT

Perhaps, but the trend could have been falling anyways while the impact of vid games and porn hypers up a small segment.

I’m not suggesting that they ought to be banned or anything like that. however I don;t think the impact ought to be dismissed entirely for some people.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 12:19 am
That’s why we don’t have daylight saving in QLD

So that you don’t have to stay up too late for the new Open Thread?

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:19 am
Michael Smith news is cock a hoop about something..( audioboo)
He’s keeping schtum for now..

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:21 am
The Maggie Beer ice cream, passionfruit, is the best. However I only ever get it in Business Class on Cathay Pacific.

She’s an old moll, so is the bloke she has working with her on their TV show.

nic

19 Jan 13 at 12:22 am
She’s also a far left green who peddles bullshit that buying local is the least damaging thing one can do.

Don’t buy or eat any of her stuff.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 12:24 am
Damn right Fleeced. Off to brush my toofy pegs with another chardy.
By the by, picked up a sample tube of toothpaste the other day.
Instructions..place a small amount on a CLEAN finger and wipe over sensitive teeth for a more rapid effect. Jeez..we have to be told not to use a dirty finger for the application of toothpaste.

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:27 am
Whoa, wait a sec… the Greens have a senator named “Penny Wright?”

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:27 am
Jeez..we have to be told not to use a dirty finger for the application of toothpaste.

I dunno, it seems inefficient – can’t it clean both at the same time? I mean, if you’re going for “rapid effect” and not even bothering with a toothbrush…

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:30 am
JC, ironic she says that when she sells her ice cream to be served on an aircraft flying at 30,000 feet, powered by, gasp, Avgas.

nic

19 Jan 13 at 12:32 am
Pack your traps and get out of town everyone – m0nty (climate heating) BA on a previous thread has informed us that Thermageddon is almost upon us.

Grant B

19 Jan 13 at 12:35 am
Was pretty hot in Sydney today… thank goodness for the carbon tax!

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:39 am
Well, IT. I love figs. I am sure it’s an acquired taste.

But for $9 a tiny tub for the ice cream it’s a taste I can unacquire.

kae

19 Jan 13 at 12:41 am
Fleeced..it’s a between brushing application..use the paste as an “ointment”. But, do use a clean finger. Gawd, just when you think nanny state crap can’t get any sillier..

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:41 am
Tubs of fresh figs up my way..$6. Yum

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:42 am
She’s annoying for sure with the save the world cook local (food miles and all that shyte).

Fine if you live on acreage in the friggin’ Barossa!

kae

19 Jan 13 at 12:44 am
I wonder if Hitler started out playing Civilization…

If he did he never would have left the bunker.

John H.

19 Jan 13 at 12:44 am
Not. Fair. Steve.

I have three fig trees. One fig. One. Tiny. Fig.

The trees are tiny little things, not even a foot tall. It’s been too dry to plant them out and they have roots out of the pots so I decided to leave them until I can figure out where to plant them that I can reach with the hose.

Sooooo dry here.

kae

19 Jan 13 at 12:46 am
Nice use of figs

http://www.lalorshopping.com.au/html/s02_article/article_view.asp?id=248&nav_cat_id=138&nav_top_id=63

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:46 am
In other news, having a go at gay sports people is now a bootable offense (or something)

The story includes a picture of Ian Roberts – a gay footballer (rugby league) who played for the Cowboys… no jokes immediately spring to mind.

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:46 am
It’s tough Kae. We have to make decisions about fresh lychees at 5 per kg or da figs. Oink..both.

Steve of Glasshouse

19 Jan 13 at 12:48 am
Perhaps, but the trend could have been falling anyways while the impact of vid games and porn hypers up a small segment.

Perhaps but how do we identify those at risk. Earlier in the week I read these two posts by Brandon. The posts highlight the problem of identifying those at risk. Dr. Freud, we have a problem … .

One would think that after Szazs and Rosenhan that they may have picked up their act…

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/dsm-5-ruse-by-any-other-name.html

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/flawed-statistics-make-almost-everyones.html

Not so surprising, long ago I read:

Dr. John Robert Skoyles

“Our brains differ as much as our bodies. Indeed they may differ more. One part of the brain, the anterior commissure … varies seven fold in area between one person and the next. Another part, the massa intermedia …, is not found at all in one in jour people. The primary visual cortex can very three-fold in area. Something called our amygdala … can vary two fold in nature – as can something called the hippocampus. Most surprisingly, our cerebral cortex varies in non-learning impaired people nearly two-fold in volume. “

John H.

19 Jan 13 at 12:52 am
Poor Steve of Glasshouse.

They had fresh figs for $1.65 EACH in Coles the other day.

They’ll come down.

And my fig *sigh* will ripen.

kae

19 Jan 13 at 12:53 am
Fleeced..it’s a between brushing application..use the paste as an “ointment”.

Oh, I see – not toothpaste then – which I figure is kind of like soap in it’s self-cleaning ability. Though this does remind me of the following scene from Friends:

Chandler: (About Joey finishing his cereal, licking his spoon, and putting it back in the silverware drawer) The spoon. You licked and, and you put. You licked and you put!

Joey: Yeah, so?

Chandler: Well don’t you see how gross that is? I mean that’s like you using my toothbrush. (Joey looks sheepish) You used my toothbrush?!

Joey: Well, that was only because I used the red one to unclog the drain.

Chandler: Mine is the red one! Oh, God! Can open, worms everywhere!

Joey: Hey, why can’t we use the same toothbrush, but we can use the same soap?

Chandler: Because soap is soap. It’s self-cleaning.

Joey: All right, well next time you take a shower, think about the last thing I wash and the first thing you wash.

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 12:55 am
Global warming is of particular concern for Monty. The deodorant bill for a man of his carriage is going to be enormous!

John Mc

19 Jan 13 at 12:55 am
Global warming is of particular concern for Monty. The deodorant bill for a man of his carriage is going to be enormous!

Doesn’t he just cool himself with a flannel and a bowl of water?

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 1:03 am
John H

I’m not sure you can, which means you simply accept the good side that comes with the fallen crime stats while feeling horror at the composition of the new types of ghastly crime we’re seeing more of.

Look, people seem to be focusing a great deal on guns and the gun culture, as they call it. But the fact remains that if crazies really want to cause damage and make a splash they will do so with or without gun control.

I think the issue is different and I believe the reason we’re seeing a falling crime rate along with sudden bouts of horrendous things happening is primarily due to the internet and it’s content.

The availability of porn is one thing to consider. Glance through Mangan’s blog and read what he thinks the impact has been. He suggests that some studies indicate porn for men at least is perhaps the most addictive thing that currently exists. I don’t think one can easily dismiss the harm that is is causing if some of these studies are valid and I have no reason to doubt them as they aren’t being done by climate science type loons.

Gaming is another thing that ought to be a concerning too.

I’m certainly no expert but I can’t quite dismiss that the lunatic who killed those 80 odd people in Norway was had accessed a great of his information to feed his ideology through the internet.

I’m not sure all this stuff can be dismissed.’

Have a read through Mangan’s blog on the topic of porn and what he thinks has been the impact. If the studies he cites are even partially true, it’s perhaps one of the most corrosive things that has occurred in modern civilization.

He cites one example of an academic that wanted to do a study on the impact of porn but had to discontinue the research as he couldn’t find one single male in the 20′s age bracket that hadn’t seen a lot of it through the internet.

One theory is that it’s perhaps the prime reason for the low Japanese birthrate and some of the strange sub-cultures that are springing up there.

I wouldn’t dismiss the NRA’s assertion the violent gaming has had an impact either as some leftwing idiot have..

What to d? of course I don’t think the government should get involved as Mangan suggests. However men should avoid porn at all costs and younger men should perhaps avoid gaming too.

The trouble with this stuff is the the left seem to avoid seeing this as being a problem and parts of the right push is on religious and moral grounds.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:15 am
Carried over from previous thread…

Please, no.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 1:16 am
Maggie Beer is a good cook, but everything else she says about food and politics is complete rubbish.

She had this cooking show on the ABC for a while (with an “edgy’ co-host) where every single thing had to be done with “extra-virgin olive oil.’ Leaving aside the strange theological and gynaecological implications, what a load of rubbish.

For almost every purpose, ordinary good quality olive oil is more than adequate. I mean, she used to use and advocate it it for frying, which is like using a top racehorse to pull a plough.

Their ABC provided several series of cooking programs where Maggie’s business, often part of the show, somehow escaped the net of not allowing commercial promotion. Extra (?) virgin olive oil and ‘verjuice’ were mentioned constantly, and often inappropriately. Of course, her own business sells these. But hey, promoting favoured businesses in the Barossa Valley on the ABC is all in keeping with the charter, right.

Next thing is, she’s polluting the screen with teaching schoolkids about ‘sustainability’ via school gardens. More free publicity, and mostly based on bogus science.

johanna

19 Jan 13 at 1:20 am
Dr. John Robert Skoyles
Not so surprising, long ago I read:

“Our brains differ as much as our bodies. Indeed they may differ more. One part of the brain, the anterior commissure … varies seven fold in area between one person and the next. Another part, the massa intermedia …, is not found at all in one in jour people. The primary visual cortex can very three-fold in area. Something called our amygdala … can vary two fold in nature – as can something called the hippocampus. Most surprisingly, our cerebral cortex varies in non-learning impaired people nearly two-fold in volume. “

Yea I read this and how it impacts.

No participant dared step out of the liberal playbook. There was no awareness of, dopamine downregulation and addiction, virtually zero concern as to how porn might affect male psychology, including manifestations of erectile dysfunction in men as young as their early 20s, and there was cluelessness abounding as to how free broadband video porn might be qualitatively different from old-fashioned photos of nude women.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:21 am
Below link to ‘A Post-Secular society, what does that mean?’ by Jürgen Habermas, perhaps the most popular and famous living philosopher. If you aren’t familiar with his writings, then you risk knowing practically nothing of the ideas behind the contemporary European Left. (…and may find like Don Qixote, that you waste your time tilting at windmill/strawmen…)

http://www.resetdoc.org/story/00000000926

one old bruce

19 Jan 13 at 1:26 am
Johanna

Maggie Beer is a good cook, but everything else she says about food and politics is complete rubbish.

Years ago I had the unfortunate experience of going to a dinner which this useless woman staged at a restaurant a little out of the city i live in.

She spent about 30 minutes talking absolute shit about the beauty of organic grown local food, referring to pesticides as poison, suggesting genetically altered food would kill you and peddling crap about locally grown food leaving da small eco foot print.

She is a first rate tosser.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:30 am
I wouldn’t dismiss the NRA’s assertion the violent gaming has had an impact either as some leftwing idiot have..

Nor do I but the argument can be spun so many ways as to declare so many things to be bad for us that so much of what constitutes modern entertainment would need to be regulated. One could just as well argue that Arnie, Seagal, von Damme, etc are also responsible for the rise in mass violence, or that the US using torture is encouraging violence, or Obamas use of drones makes it fine to kill innocents.

In relation to violent video games I don’t think it is just the violence, it is the dystopian context of so many of these games. The world has gone to hell, kill or be killed, you can’t trust anyone, they are all out to get you. Those messages also come through in many video games. Humans have always loved violence, watch some sporting events, the biggest cheer with the biggest hits. Or that the business community regards “The Art of War” as a business manual.

The porn is dangerous JC. I haven’t followed that up but others I know have and I accept their judgment.

The problem with both more guns and less guns is this: people intent on killing will find ways to do it. Remember, some of these mass killings were achieved by stealing the relevant weapons. Lock up your weapons? Ah a few minutes with an axe and away you go … .

I do not know the causes and have no intention of knowing because I don’t think it can be known. Everyone but me seems to know how to deal with this problem.

There was no awareness of, dopamine downregulation and addiction,

There is a online talk by Robert Sapolsky that illustrates this idea very well. Very interesting stuff JC because dopamine down regulation can lead to a loss of impulse control.

John H.

19 Jan 13 at 1:30 am
Nor do I but the argument can be spun so many ways as to declare so many things to be bad for us that so much of what constitutes modern entertainment would need to be regulated.

Which is of course true and impossible to regulate. I think that my point was that instead of focusing on the availability of guns etc., it would also be an idea to look at what’s been happening to violence on the whole. It’s obviously been falling across the board while the segment/ mass murder to make a big splash has been rising. Why? The advent of new technology has a big impact on humans.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:39 am
I think that my point was that instead of focusing on the availability of guns etc., it would also be an idea to look at what’s been happening to violence on the whole.

Sorry JC I misunderstood you. I fully concur with the above. At present the argument is polarised around guns-no guns. Not the problem. It is something else.

John H.

19 Jan 13 at 1:45 am
Michael Smith news is cock a hoop about something..( audioboo)
He’s keeping schtum for now..

I listened to it. We’ve seen a few of these radio show teases lately and then we hear nothing about it again or what you do hear is something comparatively minor. At this stage, I’m cynical given Smith’s clear desire to become a multi-media player.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 1:47 am
I saw some kids at Christmas playing a video game (or whatever they’re called now) and, frankly, I was shocked. It was all about shooting and killing people – like all of these stupid games. There’s no way I would allow it.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 1:49 am
I saw some kids at Christmas playing a video game (or whatever they’re called now) and, frankly, I was shocked. It was all about shooting and killing people – like all of these stupid games.

I reckon this is a concern on a sciency level CL.

There was no awareness of, dopamine downregulation and addiction,

There is a online talk by Robert Sapolsky that illustrates this idea very well. Very interesting stuff JC because dopamine down regulation can lead to a loss of impulse control.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:51 am
Christopher Pearson has an interesting piece today (here) in which he explains the Abbott-blocking strategy being used by Gillard and her office. He thinks she is intentionally using sentimentality to appear more human and stop Abbott from counter-attacking. He even says she used her own father’s death to render it impossible for the Opposition to describe her or her government as shameful (despite things like 1000 dead bodies at sea). On the upside, Pearson thinks – and I’m not sure I agree – that the electorate won’t fall for it in the end.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 1:53 am
High quality olive oil, like great red wine, HAS a positive effect on cooking.

But if you can’t taste it, or cook to the right standard, then any old oil or cask red is probably right for you.

Abu Chowdah

19 Jan 13 at 1:56 am
In news I missed yesterday,

RADICAL environmental activists who break the law, such as Whitehaven Coal hoaxer Jonathan Moylan, will find it tougher to access legal aid under new guidelines to be released by the NSW Coalition government.

The cabinet-approved guidelines, which have been provided to The Australian, stipulate the NSW Environmental Defenders Office and other publicly funded legal aid agencies must in future direct resources away from “activities which may reasonably be described as political advocacy or political activism”.

In a move guaranteed to provoke blowback from the legal aid and social justice sectors, community legal centres will also be barred from “public campaigning and advocacy”, including “through traditional and social media and participating in rallies or demonstrations for causes seeking changes to government policies”.

The guidelines say legal aid resources should be directed at “economically and socially disadvantaged individuals and vulnerable groups” rather than activists.

What’s NSW doing with a publically funded “Environmental Defenders Office anyway? I see its principal solicitor is “Kirsty Ruddock, the daughter of former Howard government minister Philip Ruddock”, so despite her pedigree, she’s not adverse to supping from the public teat.

Cold-Hands

19 Jan 13 at 2:17 am
So does that mean K Ruddock is now out of a job?

JC

19 Jan 13 at 2:22 am
Pirro dumps a nuclear bomb on the Westchester rag who published the names of gun owners in the area.

Verdict. What a bunch of low life cowards.

http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/video-jeanine-pirro-goes-nuclear-on-journal-news-cowards/

JC

19 Jan 13 at 2:45 am
does that mean K Ruddock is now out of a job?
The EDO still exists, it just won’t be advising or representing activists. Presumably it means jerks such as Moylan will just not identify themselves as activists to still receive legal aid unless the new guidelines are watertight.

Cold-Hands

19 Jan 13 at 2:52 am
I tried some Maggie Beer ice cream over Christmas – can’t remember what it was, and I wasn’t exactly gagging for more.

But the price! Far out….

We don’t have room for an ice cream maker in the kitchen, but you can make semifreddo without one. I whipped up two litres a few weeks ago, and it contained a good dose of mixed berries. Probably had about six bucks worth of ingredients (frozen mixed berries, not fresh). I will have to make some more today – it’s just eggs, cream, sugar, vanilla and whatever fruit you want to throw into it. I never get thirsty after eating it – I just want more of it.

Will go for a ride beforehand though – much more pleasant today. Was just a bit hot when riding home yesterday afternoon.

boy on a bike

19 Jan 13 at 6:20 am
Bob Carr is dreaming. A joint Australia- UK plea to the Obama gang to kickstart Middle East Peace process, as reported in The Australian.

The strongly worded surprise declaration, released after the Australia-Britain ministerial talks in Perth yesterday, reflects a belief that time is running out for a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians without dramatic intervention from the Obama administration.

Once again, let’s kick the Israelis, the only ones with a properly functioning country, and let’s pretend that there’s a two state solution possible, and let’s be friendly with those who despise us and our values., and want a sharia state solution for us.

Blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 7:04 am
I once knew an english lady who made lovely icecream by just blendning things like aprocots or all the blue and black berries with cream and then freezing. Very easy but probably very fattening.

Alice

19 Jan 13 at 8:09 am
All I know about Maggie beer is that her quince paste is a ridiculous price and a tiny amount.I suggest visiting some good continental delis where I have found fig jam so thick and concentrated – its just as good (even better) as a subsitute and much cheaper.

Alice

19 Jan 13 at 8:14 am
Fig trees are funny things – they can go for 5 or 6 years like my neighbours and produce one or two figs a year on one or two branches – which the possums eat (and the neighbour has vainly tried to protect by throwing netting over every year for a couple of figs) and then suddenly shoot up and have lots of figs. I have been looking at it for years thinking he was struggling in vain with this tree, but lo and behold its up and producing now. So dont ignore the baby trees. They take quite a few years to get going from what I have seen.

Alice

19 Jan 13 at 8:19 am
A good turnout to kick off the new year for Canberra Cats at the Realm last night. It was good to welcome Johanna. One Cat brought cigarettes in old school labelled boxes. Most people cellar wine, but someone has been cellaring smokes! A few social smoking Cats had a subversive puff in the Realm’s very suave outdoor smoking lounge. I can’t think of any other 5 star hotel bar with a cool smoking area where you can drink. A good evening was had by all – I had to get a taxi home.

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 8:59 am
I watched ‘The Watch’ with Ben Stiller last night. Quite funny.

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 9:06 am
ShakeMyHead.com’s “economics editor”, a shameless government troll named Peter Martin, who last week attempted to label Howard-Costello irresponsible economic managers to protect the current reckless Marxist trash, says the economy will not be a key issue in the coming election.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 9:14 am
Pirro dumps a nuclear bomb on the Westchester rag who published the names of gun owners in the area.

Verdict. What a bunch of low life cowards.

Ah a cheap US version of Today Tonight! If guns are meant to be such a great deterrent to crime why are the gun owners so reticent about their neighbours knowing they own one?

Chris

19 Jan 13 at 9:20 am
Kae

We grow fig trees in medium size pots – they don’t mind a restricted root run and are all producing well with a daily watering and occasional feed. The large one grown in ground years ago had to be caged.

foxy

19 Jan 13 at 9:21 am
Welcome to Catallaxy, where political correctness spreads to quince.

1735099

19 Jan 13 at 9:21 am
Obama’s new enemy: Anonymous. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/01/17/anonymous-warns-of-insurrection-in-america-due-to-obamas-gun-grab/

perturbed

19 Jan 13 at 9:22 am
Fleeced:

Whoa, wait a sec… the Greens have a senator named “Penny Wright?”

I hope not. If so, she’ll be hunted down and shagged to within an inch of her life by that Wong chap.

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Jan 13 at 9:27 am
one or two figs a year on one or two branches – which the possums eat

Disgraziato bastardi!

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 9:46 am
nic @ 1232

Avgas is petrol – not likely at 30,000 feet for a piston engine pax aircraft these days

I think you mean AVtur – kerosene for jet engines.

Mike of Marion

19 Jan 13 at 9:57 am
“And of course not all Muslims are self-segregating, although 57 percent of Pakistani Britons are married to first cousins, and in Bradford, Yorkshire, it’s 75 percent . . .” Steyn

Oh my…

Alfonso

19 Jan 13 at 10:11 am
although 57 percent of Pakistani Britons are married to first cousins,

No problem, even Hitler’s dad married his first cousin. That worked out well.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 10:15 am
She’s also a far left green who peddles bullshit that buying local is the least damaging thing one can do.

Don’t buy or eat any of her stuff

Even so, I will never give up her pheasant farm pate.

Helen Armstrong

19 Jan 13 at 10:17 am
Lubox Motl has this excellent post
Record temperatures and female Fields medallists

Well worth a Saturday morning read.

Jessie

19 Jan 13 at 10:17 am
Next time you read a “news” story by Alicia Simmonds, be in no doubt why she was hired as a “writer” (“journalist” being the dirty word du jour among young Hemingway wannabes) at ShakeMyHead.com:

In the late ’90s, when raving meant dancing and sun-dried tomatoes meant culinary sophistication, I joined a group at university called the Activist Left. It was the obvious choice for someone who had spent her high school years weeping over woodchips. I believed another world was possible but had no faith in parliamentary reform. Revolutionary overthrow sounded infinitely more exciting than gradual change.

Oh dear, something dreadful happened:

A Mission Australia study found the economy has overtaken the environment as the issue that most concerns young Australia. Support for the Greens among young voters has decreased from 22 per cent to 16 per cent in the past two years and Tony Abbott still leads Labor on youth first preferences since the last election by five points. Even worse, they’re stinking rich!

It seems Australia is the only country where youth are cocooned in narcissistic conservatism. They’re more concerned about their own economic future at a time of wild prosperity than environmental destruction or any number of disadvantaged groups…

…I’m not sure why Australia has been burdened with such a mind-numbing, spirit-crushingly boring generation of young people. Are they just Howard’s children? Is reducing your dreams to the size of a suburban home the price of prosperity?

All I know is that there is nothing more tragic than a generation without spirit.

Kid has no idea that she is the problem.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 10:23 am
Avgas, avtur… carbon footprint, foodmiles, chemtrails, we’re doomed, whatever.

kae

19 Jan 13 at 10:23 am
From the Christopher Pearson Article

When she calls him a misogynist and this is accepted by the majority of women in the 25-34 demographic, this neuters Abbott’s paid parental leave scheme, designed to appeal to precisely this cohort. They will never accept a women-friendly policy from someone they think is a misogynist, no matter how good it is. The polls suggest Abbott’s attempts to compete in the sentimentality stakes are not garnering him any support and he may as well forget them.

That was the demographic that Peta Credlin was targeting with the Marie Claire interview. I wonder if it will have any impact. Circulation in Oz is 97,702 and readership 434,000. Core target 25 to 39 yo women. A mag like that is less likely to be turfed very quickly too, so it may take some time for the effects to wash through. It will be interesting.

What do you reckon, CL?

Helen Armstrong

19 Jan 13 at 10:28 am
All I know is ~~that there is~~ nothing ~~more tragic than a generation without spirit~~.

Fixed.

Rabz

19 Jan 13 at 10:28 am
No Rabz, it should be, ‘All I know is a generation without spirit.’

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 10:35 am
Avgas, no. Jet A-1, fine kerosene. Avgas is 130-140 high octane petrol.

johninoxley

19 Jan 13 at 10:37 am
Good news:

TSA to remove naked-body scanners from airports

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 10:49 am
Fleeced’s link:

SPORTS spectators who heckle players with homophobic taunts risk prosecution under new anti-discrimination laws.

The Federal Government’s draft Human Rights and Anti-Discrimination Bill will bring in a legal ban on harassment in sport on the grounds of “sexual orientation”.

Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission president Gillian Triggs yesterday warned that coaches, players and spectators will have to watch their language.

“Abuse on the sporting ground or abuse by a spectator would constitute, in an appropriate circumstance, harassment,” she said.

Triggs was appointed by fascist morals campaigner Nicola Roxon. So the Gillard ‘government’ now wants to arrest people at the football.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 10:57 am
Ah a cheap US version of Today Tonight! If guns are meant to be such a great deterrent to crime why are the gun owners so reticent about their neighbours knowing they own one?

Because you have a right to privacy, fuckknuckle and the ownership of a gun in the US is perfectly legal supported by the constitution. The people named in that rag did everything that was expected of them in terms of legal requirements yet they had their names and addresses published in the leftist rag. Those who possess illegal guns weren’t. So in effect the law abiding citizens were punished for following the law.

You really are a fucking idiot, Chris.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 10:58 am
Gab, that’s definitely big news for airline travellers and will force Albanese to rethink his “we’ll do what we like” attitude to airport privacy. Australia has the same technology as the US.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 11:00 am
The man responsible for the Hurricane Katrina debacle – Democrat Party mayor, Ralph Nagle – indicted for bribery, fraud.

Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was indicted Friday on charges that he used his office for personal gain, accepting payoffs, free trips and gratuities from contractors while the city was struggling to recover from the devastation of Hurricane Katrina.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 11:01 am
Woops. I’m now told Australia has different airport scanning systems. Clarification required. Apologies.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 11:02 am
Ray Nagin, rather.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 11:03 am
Woops. I’m now told…

Lol you have your own research assistant? Cool!

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 11:04 am
Now that the election’s over, turns out “fact checker” was lying, not Mitt Romney:

PolitiFact’s ‘Lie of the Year’ Turns Out to Be True.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 11:08 am
Anti-guns loony and phony children protector, Andrew Cuomo, launches campaign to kill more children.

Andrew Cuomo’s Brave New ‘Roe’.

Cuomo’s legislation, she said, would make illegal abortion restrictions, such as parental-notification laws, informed-consent laws, restrictions on taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion bans of any kind.

The law will allow licensed medical professionals other than a physician to perform first-trimester abortions.

The Democratic governor announced in his Jan. 9 State of the State address that he would expand legal abortion as part of a comprehensive women’s-equality bill, declaring three times, “It’s her body, her choice” to thunderous applause…

Late-Abortion Green Light

Cuomo’s bill removes criminal penalties for third-trimester abortions after 24 weeks by adding a broad health exception. Current state law allows such late-term abortions if there is a danger to the mother’s life.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 11:14 am
Obama, Circa 1990s: ‘I Don’t Believe People Should Be Able to Own Guns’

Okay so some dude says Obama said that. Many will decry that as hearsay, maybe so, maybe not. So let’s look at the evidence:

1. In a 1998 questionnaire for the Illinois state legislature, Obama said he wanted to “ban the sale or transfer of all sorts of semi-automatic weapons.”

2. From 1998-2001 Obama was on the board of the Joyce Foundation, the “major funder for gun-control research” at that time.

3. Obama opposes concealed carry and always has (every state but Illinois disagrees with him).

4. Obama only sees two “legitimate” purposes for guns: “hunting and target shooting.” This means using guns for self defense is not legitimate. And this goes a long way in explaining Obama’s past support of laws banning the use of guns for self-defense in Illinois, even in one’s own home.

There will be no trashing of the second amendment under the government I lead…Heap big kenyan speaks with forked tongue…

Lott believes Obama’s lip service to the Second Amendment is simply part of an overarching Democrat strategy set forth by pollster Mark Penn, which instructs Dems to say they support the Second Amendment in order get elected and then to do everything they can to chip away at it via legislation and regulation once they’re in office.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 11:15 am
Not that it matters much now because, you know, it’s his final term and he has “more flexibility after election”….

Just a week before the New Year, Obama enjoyed his highest approval ratings of 2012. According to Gallup, 58% of Americans approved of the job Obama was doing. Survey results released today by Gallup, though, show Obama’s approval rating has plummeted to just 49%. It is a dramatic drop, especially coming over a holiday period when people traditionally pay little attention to politics. Four years ago, at his first inauguration, a full 69% of Americans approved of Obama.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 11:27 am
Bald guy is potentially the GOP candidate after Bloomberg is termed out on his short arse.

Some of you won’t like him. Trust me, he’s the best you’re going to get.

And his candidacy has also shaken up the Democrats at a time when the party thought it would finally have a chance of taking City Hall after 20 years of GOP victories.

“I certainly think Joe Lhota scares the Democratic candidates a whole lot more than any other Republican,” Blum said.

Lhota is also known for bluntly speaking his mind. After Hurricane Sandy, for example, he called Mayor Michael Bloomberg an idiot. Some, including political expert Blum, think that if he won he could turn out to be New York City’s Chris Christie.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/18/pundit-if-anyone-scares-the-new-york-city-democrats-its-joe-lhota/

JC

19 Jan 13 at 11:32 am
Now he’s just trolling.
Also porn’s great fun.

Ooh Honey Honey

19 Jan 13 at 11:37 am
the science of trolling.

it appeared that pushing people’s emotional buttons, through derogatory comments, made them double down on their preexisting beliefs.

In short, trolling and abuse do not help advance dialog. Arguments with trolls are not acceptable subsitutes for genuine disagreements or arguments with people who present their views in good faith.

dd

19 Jan 13 at 11:41 am
DD

Chris Mooney wrote that. He is the asshat who wrote a book suggesting the Republicans are anti-science while the Demorats weren’t.

Mooney in fact is the classic troll. Possibly one of the originals. In fact he went further than basic internet trolling. He wrote a book that was essentially one huge trolling effort.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 11:46 am
PJ Media’s Roger L Simon speculates that USA would be far better getting their own energy from frakking safe on US soil than dying in Mali getting gas.

Also says USA should stop all aid to Islamist world with a view to forcing them to grow up.

He links to religionofpeace.com which reports more than 20,000 deadly attacks in the name of Allah since 9/11.

Helen Armstrong

19 Jan 13 at 11:50 am
Tom:

Gab, that’s definitely big news for airline travellers and will force Albanese to rethink his “we’ll do what we like” attitude to airport privacy. Australia has the same technology as the US.

The machines used in Australian airports have a generic ‘stick figure’ display. When there’s something suss on a person (drugs, forgotten wallet, bomb, beluga whale etc), the system shows a box on that part of teh stick figure, and a hand search is carried out.

The reason this was brought in was the requirements of the Privacy Act, the distraction of the ‘naked image’ system and the sheer tackiness of the ‘naked image’ system.

What we have now is a good system wot the Howard government built and the ALPgreenfilth rabble have not managed to f*ck up.

How can this government f*ck this up?

Easy – move to a TSA-like structure where the airport security staff become federal employees. Fortunately, that would cost a bomb and there’s no special community to bribe by instituting such a disaster. So we are left with ‘ALPgreenfilth general howling incompetence’ as the only possible way it can happen.

So it’s only a 50:50 chance, I guess…..

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Jan 13 at 11:55 am
DD:

In short, trolling and abuse do not help advance dialog. Arguments with trolls are not acceptable subsitutes for genuine disagreements or arguments with people who present their views in good faith.

Of course not, and I agree with yoyur argument here.

Which leaves us all with the gentle sport of trollburning (Kae™)

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Jan 13 at 11:57 am
Some, including political expert Blum, think that if he won he could turn out to be New York City’s Chris Christie.

That’s a good thing?

I can’t stand Christie.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 12:11 pm
Bill Leak on the biggest lie and failure in Australian political history.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 12:14 pm
I must report that the goings-on at the Canberra Cats tea and scones function last night would have Nanny Government putting us all on the naughty step for the rest of our natural lives. At least one person (me) had more than two standard drinks, and that is only the tip of the iceberg of depravity.

No donuts were consumed, however – we do have standards.

johanna

19 Jan 13 at 12:14 pm
VOA has a story being featured on Google…

Very odd.

Why isn’t it a gun free zone?

Inauguration Security — A Year In The Planning.

Officials have been working on a security plan for the inauguration for more than a year. The U.S. Secret Service, which guards the president daily, is in charge and will be joined by federal and local law enforcement from more than 80 jurisdictions around the country.

They will have eyes and ears on the tops of buildings, in the sky and in the crowds…

Six thousand National Guard troops have been deputized by the Washington Metropolitan Police Department.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 12:16 pm
that is only the tip of the iceberg of depravity.

This is a G rated site so careful how you proceed!

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 12:23 pm
Much to-do about Sydney’s “hottest day EVER” yesterday from the Lance Armstrong wing of meteorology.

I looked it up. Yesterday was half a degree hotter than the previous record in 1939.

A statistically meaningless, dubious ‘record.’

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 12:24 pm
If anyone is heading up the Top End fishing this season

Give this bloke a run.

Pickles

19 Jan 13 at 12:26 pm
Yes, but “The point being it’s not the normal kind of hot”.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 12:27 pm
Catching fish, sucking piss and breaking things

Pickles

19 Jan 13 at 12:44 pm
Michael Smith letting drop some more hints as to his good news yesterday:

Yesterday afternoon I just had to let you know that there is tremendous cause for optimism about justice being done in The AWU Scandal.

We’re not having a baby, I have no specific new information about Craig Thomson, I haven’t won Lotto, haven’t got a new job – I just wanted to share with you my happiness and reinvigorated faith in justice being done in The AWU Scandal.

I am still surprised that barrackers for the Gillard camp still refuse to countenance the possibility that she is a person of interest in a police investigation.

…Hedley Thomas’s report about Victoria Police presence on the Sunshine Coast to speak with Olivia Palmer (nee Brosnahan) should have confirmed to most reasonable people that something was afoot with police.

So let me reiterate something I’ve often said on this blog. I remain a fierce advocate for the professionalism and prosecutorial expertise of the Victoria Police. The Force went through a pretty rough patch so far as its top leadership is concerned over the past decade or so – starting with the appointment of Christine Nixon as the Chief Commissioner of Police in 2001.

You will have read of her history – and perhaps you may know that Prime Minister Gillard launched Ms Nixon’s book, a biography, in August 2011. The less said about that book the better.

The Victoria Police Force is now led by a man who is respected by every serving copper I’ve spoken with. Chief Commissioner Ken Lay APM is a copper, that is all. He’s not a politician, he doesn’t want to influence diversity policy or push an agenda for bald men, or people with 3 letter surnames or any other agenda. He strikes me as a policeman.

So when’s the Mendacious Messalinist being interviewed?

Cold-Hands

19 Jan 13 at 12:55 pm
I looked it up. Yesterday was half a degree hotter than the previous record in 1939.

A statistically meaningless, dubious ‘record.’

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 12:24 pm

Which is basically the labelling precision of a glass mercury thermometer calibrated in degrees, any reading being x degrees +/- 0.5 degrees Celsius.

If you look at the y axis of those temperature anomaly graphs, the hockey stick for example, those are calibrated as +/- 0.5 degrees and most of the variation lies within that error zone. A clear case of the misuse of applied statistics and mathematics.

The frustration lies in realising that the sellers of that graph don’t realise it.

Louis Hissink

19 Jan 13 at 1:15 pm
You guys might be boiling hot in Sydney but I just came inside from minus 5 degrees and could do with a bit of hot sun. I suggested to the locals that they should be burning tyres to get a bit of global warmeaning going.

brc

19 Jan 13 at 1:22 pm
Louis, the 1939 Sydney temperature record was doctored, which was explained to me yesterday here and here.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 1:26 pm
Michael Smith is like a voice crying in the wilderness. Hopefully voters will one day hear him. Rio Albanese outed for a few billions lost while Swan is still in office. And Julia gets to pretend all is well.

stackja

19 Jan 13 at 1:28 pm
Tom

Other than outright fraud, how are they justifying messing about with temp records from many decades ago?

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:33 pm
Absolutely amazing. They’re like a fucking virus.

Even more interesting is that Simon Torok who made the adjustments did it as part of his PhD. (with Neville Nichols)

Here’s the acknowledgments posted at the end of their paper.

“Acknowledgments

Wasyl Drosdowsky produced Fig.1 Scott Power produced analyses in Fig. 5. Beth Lavery produced the spacial averages for Fig. 6. Phil Jones provided his average temperatures for the comparison in Fig.7. Neil Plummer provided the ‘Detect’ suite of programs. Alex Kariko tested Fahrenheit and Celcius thermometers. This research was a PhD project funded by The National Greenhouse Advisory Committee.”

That’s THE Phil Jones from the University of East Anglia. Torok was a student there at some stage and that’s where he learnt how to adjust climate data.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 1:35 pm
IMO, it’s fraudulent, JC, with the sole purpose of protecting a corrupt academic empire and extorting research funds from government.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 1:45 pm
Other than outright fraud, how are they justifying messing about with temp records from many decades ago?
Most of the older records have been expunged from the database on the grounds that they were not recorded in a Stevenson Screen (not universally used in Australia until 1910) or have been compared with adjoining centres and “corrected”. JoNova has a good look at the BoM and their measurements.

Cold-Hands

19 Jan 13 at 1:49 pm
So let me reiterate something I’ve often said on this blog. I remain a fierce advocate for the professionalism and prosecutorial expertise of the Victoria Police.

Yeah, Michael – don’t get too carried away, son. All of this happened 17 years ago. Hardly professionalism and prosecutorial expertise.

As for the smarts of Ken Lay, mmm.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 1:51 pm
Londoners are reportedly being terrorised by a gang of hooded men who confiscate booze and order women to cover up in Muslim neighbourhoods.

Police launched an investigation into the group, who call themselves Muslim Patrol, after footage emerged showing the men in vigilante mode, the Daily Mail reports.

In one scene the men are heard calling white women ‘’naked animals with no self-respect’’.

In another scene, the men snatch alcohol from people in the street saying it’s ‘’evil’’ …

The most recent video was uploaded on Sunday.

Shot on a mobile phone, the latest footage shows a number of men shouting ‘’this is a Muslim area’’ towards white Britons.

Of course, it will never happen here because we aren’t laying the foundations towards encouraging that type of bullying, intimidation or harassment.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 1:54 pm
Hey, serious question: re loony morals campaigner Nicola Roxon’s latest move – to arrest people for swearing and giving offence – will the police take action to shut down the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, arresting anyone who dresses as a nun or carries an anti-family or anti-Christian placard? Will Simon Overland to be charged for this hate, offence, sexism, incitement, and bigotry crime?

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 2:07 pm
Gab, and the kicker ?

Yesterday, magistrate Pat O’Shane handed him a 12-month good behaviour [bond].

Disgusting.

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 2:09 pm
I must report that the goings-on at the Canberra Cats tea and scones function last night would have Nanny Government putting us all on the naughty step for the rest of our natural lives. At least one person (me) had more than two standard drinks, and that is only the tip of the iceberg of depravity.

Good work Johanna, it was a pleasure to make your acquaintance last night. I had more than two standard drinks, and surprise surprise, no-one died nor were any animals harmed. I didn’t burden the public health system either. Wish I could have stayed longer but I had to get home to see my little man before he went to bed. We shall convene again for sure. I think you’ll find that we are a pretty diverse bunch, but our disdain and outright contempt for leftist stupidity is a common bond we all share.

Skuter

19 Jan 13 at 2:14 pm
That’s right, Jump. There is a clause in the NSW Criminal Code (enthusiastically endorsed by Fatty O’Barrell) that cases against activists must be heard by activist members of the judiciary.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 2:16 pm
I don’t think it was a jailing offence, though, so I’m not sure what O’Shane could have done. Certainly, he should pay for the windscreen.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 2:19 pm
O’Shane had a few options. http://www.armstronglegal.com.au/web/page/malicious_damage_of_property#prisonSentence

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 2:23 pm
http://www.armstronglegal.com.au/web/page/riot

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 2:24 pm
Gov. Cuomo is an utter disgrace. Of course, some people would regard such legislation as nuanced.

dover_beach

19 Jan 13 at 2:39 pm
Good news:

FEDERAL Treasurer Wayne Swan is on track to lose his seat in Queensland, a poll indicates.

The ReachTEL telephone poll was commissioned by union United Voice and surveyed 511 residents in Mr Swan’s north Brisbane electorate of Lilley on Thursday night.

According to ReachTEL, 45.2 per cent of respondents said they would vote for the Liberal National Party candidate Rod McGarvie as their preferred candidate while 38 per cent said they would vote for Labor and Mr Swan.

Just over 45 per cent of respondents (45.1 per cent) said their opinion of the treasurer was unfavourable, compared with 34.1 per cent who said they had a favourable view of him.

Almost 20 per cent (19.1 per cent) were neutral and 1.8 per cent hadn’t heard of the federal treasurer.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/treasurer-on-track-to-lose-seat-poll/story-e6frfku9-1226557239161#ixzz2IOGJgBNv

Apparently, the “Treasurer” doesn’t comment on polls.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 3:01 pm
People don’t come much lower than this.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 3:10 pm
Volume I – The Story of ANZAC from the outbreak of war to the end of the first phase of the Gallipoli Campaign, May 4, 1915 (11th edition, 1941)
CHAPTER III – THE “A.I.F.”

“The Australian of the bush is frequently called upon to fight bush-fires; and fighting bush-fires, more than any other human experience, resembles the fighting of a pitched battle. The greatest strain upon soldiers on active service is generally the want of sleep. In war men are required to work for sixty or seventy hours without closing their eyes, toiling with all their strength until they often drop from weariness. I n most countries a man lives his life without ever having to work continuously through a day and a night. But in the Australian bush that effort may become necessary at any moment during the long summer months. In 1913 a bush-fire, no more serious than usual, started at a point on the east coast of Tasmania and was driven inland by the wind towards the newly-settled farms near Campania. As tidings came of its approach. the men of the four or five farms on the edge of the bush were organised by one of the younger settlers into the usual teams for fire-fighting. On Sunday night the blaze was still apparently at a safe distance. Early on Monday morning came news that a change of the wind had brought it swiftly through the forest. At five o’clock in the morning the young farmer who organised the teams was roused, and an hour later, with his younger brother and thirty-eight men, he was in the thick of the fire-fight. From 6 a.m. on Monday until 4 a.m. on Friday the elder brother was working incessantly without sleep. The rest fought for 36 hours at a shift. Two were employed in bringing food to the fighters; the rest it turned out differently
..1913-181 THE “A.I.F.” 47
were burning firebreaks ahead of the fire and then dashing into and beating down any flames which burst out across the breaks. After 94 hours the fire was sufficiently held to allow of some respite. The young farmer, who till then had led them continuously, was able to sleep for four hours, and he then worked for another twelve until all danger was past. Three years later the younger brother, who had helped him, was recommended for a Victoria Cross after sixty hours’ fighting at Mouquet Farm.”

stackja

19 Jan 13 at 3:32 pm
FEDERAL Treasurer Wayne Swan is on track to lose his seat in Queensland, a poll indicates.

I’d like to see the polling for Ruddles and Dr Bill Glasson — here are their campaign Ts

Tintarella di Luna

19 Jan 13 at 3:42 pm
Heavy snow caused travel misery for many Britons yesterday – suspending flights, disrupting rail travel and sparking a series of road accidents.

They need some warming it seems.

stackja

19 Jan 13 at 3:50 pm
our disdain and outright contempt for leftist stupidity is a common bond we all share.

Plus most of us here seem to enjoy a good laugh. Leftie blogs have no sense of fun at all, because everything you want to laugh at is verbotten and no-one has wit enough to be interesting or understand the meaning of repartee, satire and the satisfying pleasures of good old invective.

They don’t have a regular troll bbq either, they just wipe all non-lefties without having a go at us (it’s beyond their limited capacities to burn us up anyway).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 3:51 pm
Just to add – lefties are so breathtakingly earnest once off the uni party circuit.

I’ve heard they used to be more fun in the olden days, if any olden day people here are able to confirm that. Barry Oakley’s book (reviewed in the Oz today) seems to imply quite a bit more biffo and socko. Rather like early Hairy Irish Ape.

Perhaps they were just more drunk. Before the arrival of the namby-pambies, ninnies and nannies to pollute and corrupt the working classes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 4:05 pm
Well, Lizzie, there might have been a light-hearted discussion about the inadvisability of the Aborigines taking on the Islanders in Logan …

Just one of the reasons we are permanently consigned to the Naughty Step.

johanna

19 Jan 13 at 4:11 pm
HIA says you don’t mess with those islanders. Dey are big guys wit’ da biffo.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 4:28 pm
FOX’s Jimmy Kimmel sends reporter to interview Democrat voters about the second term inauguration (which hasn’t talken place yet).

Jim Hoft:

81% of these idiots in New York voted for Barack Obama.

Hilarious.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 4:35 pm
Al Gore is now richer than Mitt Romney. Welcome to the 1%.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 4:42 pm
Lizzie

Dey are big guys wit’ da biffo.

Yep, I worked with the biggest human being I’d ever seen, a Samoan/Japanese from Broome, a happy kind generous fun loving bloke who once played for the Raiders.
They seem to revel in community and family like none I’ve met.
But threaten or insult their family and they snap like a redhead.
Should be more of em here if they can just gain a work ethic.

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 4:44 pm
CL, that’s one of the funniet things I’ve seen in weeks.

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Jan 13 at 4:48 pm
Indeed they are big, Lizzie, but that’s not all.

As the HIA correctly pointed out, their conception of violence is very different to ours. The history of the Pacific Islands is one of either being attacked by neighbouring islands, or attacking them. They were warriors.

I have known a few Maori and PI people over the years, and they are delightful, but in their view, a broken nose is just part of life. I don’t claim that every one of them is like this, but overall they quite enjoy a rumble and do not require a lifetime of counselling afterwards.

johanna

19 Jan 13 at 4:49 pm
They seem to revel in community and family like none I’ve met.
But threaten or insult their family and they snap like a redhead.
Should be more of em here if they can just gain a work ethic.

And the transition, in both directions, can be instantaneous. But I suspect that their happy disposition would not survive the development of a work ethic.

Entropy

19 Jan 13 at 5:01 pm
Oh no! Another threatened species !!
Is Globule Worming to blame? Probably.
I’m sure the Greens will be outraged by the the imminent demise of their trademark species.
It’s reassuring that they vow to keep maintaining the habitat that enables this misunderstood symbol of Greenness to survive.

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 5:09 pm
The left is a fun free zone. Not like our fabulous Canberra Cat hook ups. I must say EB is wonderful on the wine front. A long term commitment to cellaring red wine yield wonderful surprises whenever it is BYO. The Christmas Drinks 1998 Tyrell’s Vat 9 Shiraz was sensational. I have many more years of cellaring ahead of me before I can match the quality of EB.

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 5:17 pm
Oh no! Another threatened species !!
Is Globule Worming to blame? Probably.
I’m sure the Greens will be outraged by the the imminent demise of their trademark species.

As someone else said: “At last, something they can blame on Bush!”

Also, petition to preserve their natural habitat…on the We The People White House site.

(H/T Insty)

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 5:18 pm
thanks for that, jump!

Helen Armstrong

19 Jan 13 at 5:20 pm
Well, Lizzie, there might have been a light-hearted discussion about the inadvisability of the Aborigines taking on the Islanders in Logan …

Has anyone in the press mentioned that this is about racism? Or are we still to believe that only us whiteys are racist? Programs like “Living Black are constantly complaining about how evil we are. If there was a program “Living White”, imagine the uproar.

CL, I abhore the hypocrisy regarding the attitude of some in relation to these matters. Apparently one must respect minority views but the majority views are to be ridiculed at every opportunity. It is as if elements of the Left have a self-loathing, disgusted by their own culture while demanding respect for other cultures and belief systems. They do this from the comfort of their modern air conditioned homes while typing away on technology that represents one of the most stunning developments in improving human welfare.

John H.

19 Jan 13 at 5:20 pm
Just completed an “Onlineopinion” Survey.

Mike of Marion

19 Jan 13 at 5:22 pm
I think Michael Smith is seriously deluding himself if he thinks the Vic police are seriously investigating the AWU matter. How is that Vic Police investigation into Craig Thomson going? Don’t expect the Vic Police to even question Gillard when they are too scared to touch Craig Thomson. The corruption of our police is right in front of us, yet no one says a word about it.

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 5:29 pm
Just completed an “Onlineopinion” Survey.

Mike is such a tease.

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 5:40 pm
I think Gillard will remain a protected species for as long as she occupies The Lodge. She and Labor have ensured there are highly-placed friends at every level of the judicial system to guarantee she is safe.

For me the equally large story is the manner in which the majority of Australia’s print and television journalists have doggedly worked to keep this scandal covered up.

Tracey

19 Jan 13 at 5:40 pm
jumpnmcar @ 1749

Car’n on Tony

Mike of Marion

19 Jan 13 at 5:48 pm
1740

Mike of Marion

19 Jan 13 at 5:48 pm
Something we all need to know about Hammy, and that Hammy needs to hear, so I am posting it here too (it came up on Rafe’s last thread, Hammy’s celebrating the end of AGW ‘denialism’ fss):

I’ve just come back to this thread after having enjoyed a bottle or so of champagne with my wife

So – he’s human after all. A wife, no less. A woman of great fortitude to be sure. Hope she doesn’t light up – could be a problem with Kero. She deserves a drink.

We’ve broken out the champagne in hilarity so often over your nonsense Hammy, so no-one here begrudges you a sip or two, even if your reason is like your comments, totally spurious and ridiculous. It’s good to see a fellow human being (that is right, isn’t it?) living a little.

But Hammy, isn’t there something wrong with drinking champagne? From what you tell us, Nanny Roxon will be after you with her standard glass measure with all sorts of threats. You know you should protect your liver and what little there is of your brain and desist. Plus it’s from France. Think of the alcohol miles in that. And the noise pollution of the popping corks? Plus they are dangerous missiles – guns have nothing on being in the way of one of those suckers expertly directed. And all those CO2 bubbles?

Hey, how can you, Hammy, you evil man? You should reform.

All our champagne talk is having a bad effect on your robotics.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 6:04 pm
Does anybody think Tomic can beat the delectable Roger tonight?

Tracey

19 Jan 13 at 6:25 pm
I’m in Hirafu in Japan. It basically snows 24 hours a day. This year has been the best in living memory according to the locals.

No warming here. It’s getting colder.

No extremes, the temparuture is just colder than it has been for a long time.

Hardly at a tipping point.

Tiny Dancer

19 Jan 13 at 6:39 pm
Tracey

Does anybody think Tomic can beat the delectable Roger tonight?

At what odds?

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 6:41 pm
Does anybody think Tomic can beat the delectable Roger tonight?

Nope.

Fleeced

19 Jan 13 at 6:42 pm
Tomic looks in good form, for Tomic.
But Roger is in good form, for Roger.

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 6:52 pm
Then it’s curtains for Bernie methinks

Tracey

19 Jan 13 at 6:59 pm
Lizzie, I found a picture of hammyracist’s wife.

(Individual Pic is SFW, Zombietime’s coverage of the ‘event’ is not safe for viewing by any non-pervert as it’s projectile vomiting material)

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Jan 13 at 7:01 pm
Well, at least Blair has run with the Doyle interview of PM from Friday morning’s RN Breakfast. I commented on it then, but to no avail. Never mind.
Link to Blair not provided due to espaminondas overkill most times when you use two links.

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 7:01 pm
Tomic looks in good form, for Tomic.
But Roger is in good form, for Roger.

Carefully non-committal, Blogstop. Just like HIA when thrown a difficult one about whether my rear end is round or pert (a subject of female form in general, current on the Cat fairly recently).

He pleads the 5th Amendment. What’s your excuse?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 7:03 pm
Asked HIA about the tennis (I haven’t a clue).

His prediction; Roger, three sets to nil.

He doesn’t even know Tomic’s first name.

Says Tomic is nowhere near as good as he tinks he is. He’s got a big ego, dat boy. He has a very high opinion of himself. He is about to find out.

So quite definitive on that, then.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 7:07 pm
My subtle way of saying that if Roger is in good form, it’s uphill for Tomic.

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 7:37 pm
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JamesK

19 Jan 13 at 7:42 pm
Does anybody think Tomic can beat the delectable Roger tonight?

No and he’ll win fewer games than he did last year

JamesK

19 Jan 13 at 7:43 pm
1st set 6-4

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 7:45 pm
Da Ape is right Lizzie, he appears to be an arrogant little shit.

Tracey

19 Jan 13 at 8:13 pm
From the “I didn’t know that” column.

An Image of a Lost Civilization: Why?

High Schools in the USA had shooting ranges in the 1950′s, and students brought their own rifles to school.

Probably mostly in rural areas.

What has changed?

Will

19 Jan 13 at 8:23 pm
Tomic is doing well, arrogant or not.

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 8:27 pm
You’re right blogstrop, I just looked. I used to love the tennis but have lost interest somewhat in recent years.

Tracey

19 Jan 13 at 8:35 pm
Two sets to love.

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 8:38 pm
Julia’s moment of truth.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 8:43 pm
Larry Pickering has weighed in with the gossip. According to him Joe Hockey has had gastric lap-band surgery and TLS liposuction for election year. Fairly tame stuff by his standards.

Cold-Hands

19 Jan 13 at 8:51 pm
Da Ape says: Tomic is doing well, it is good experience for him, but he is not ready to beat him yet. He is not being humiliated at all. He’s putting up a very good fight. But it’s a different class. Dere was a bit of hubris going on here, prior to the game, he’s good but da idea dat he could beat Fedderer tonight is just bollocks.

Still tremendous certainty here: It’s gonna be three nil, believe me.
But – here we go Federer’s going for the break … cheeky.

I am cooking da dinner. Basic, not a triumph.

I’ve tried to explain tennis to you before, he says, you generally don’t want to know.

Yep. True.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

19 Jan 13 at 8:52 pm
The lap-band surgery is no gossip. Hockey was on the front page of the Fin this week, has lost about 20kg apparently.

sdfc

19 Jan 13 at 9:00 pm
Straight sets.

blogstrop

19 Jan 13 at 9:09 pm
Hockey … has lost about 20kg apparently.

He bloody well needed to.

Rabz

19 Jan 13 at 9:24 pm
He looked a lot better for it.

sdfc

19 Jan 13 at 9:25 pm
Oh and Sydney FC – you fucking rock!

Thanks for restoring the faith of nearly departed fan. The wanderers can continue to do just that.

Rabz

19 Jan 13 at 9:26 pm
Who will be the next on Oprahs couch ?
I’m thinking an American superhero with a freakish record.
——————————————-
In a totally non-related topic, Sarina Willaims has a very big serve, she is almost unbeatable.

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 9:42 pm
Big win and a good win for Sydney FC

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 9:43 pm
Well, back to lurking and no comments. Off to the salt mines at o-dark-hundred.

I want to see no troll unsquished!

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Jan 13 at 9:51 pm
Big win and a good win for Sydney FC

Indeedy – the little Italian fella from Juve was on fire…

Rabz

19 Jan 13 at 9:53 pm
An early candidate for Australian of the Year:

A MAD fisho pulled a drowning man from a croc-infested river and bought him a case of Jack Daniel’s cans to help him recover.

Humpty Doo concreter turned adventure fishing tour guide Wayne “Vandofish” van den Broek was at Daly River crossing when he saw a four-wheel-drive get washed off.

It quickly submerged with the three male and one female passengers fighting their way out.

His story came out after he posted a video on YouTube of him diving into the river to get the car and possessions.

RTWT

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 9:59 pm
Tom meet Pickles at 12:26pm.
Oh Tom, thanks for your 1:26pm, fucken gold ammo.

jumpnmcar

19 Jan 13 at 10:04 pm
Thanks, Jump. Missed that. Cheers.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 10:14 pm
He’s got a few vids on tube Tom. Have a look. V funny.

Pickles

19 Jan 13 at 10:14 pm
Personally, I reckon she ought to focus on looking good in a bikini.

Eva Longoria’s Next Role: Hispanic Activist in Washington

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323783704578247792990982484.html?mod=WSJ_hp_us_mostpop_read

JC

19 Jan 13 at 10:22 pm
Negotiation is your great skill, isn’t it? Anyone who’s had any dealings with you, they say you’re a wonderful negotiator. Where do these skills come from?

From an ABC ‘interview‘ with Julia Gillard.

C.L.

19 Jan 13 at 10:35 pm
That brown stain on Doyle’s nose sure ain’t zinc cream.

entropy

19 Jan 13 at 10:52 pm
A great great (now wonderful) negotiator. This is so deplorable it deserves a deplorable response.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 10:57 pm
That’s a whole lot of horseshoes. There is absolutely no evidence gillard can negotiate. She can’t even pronounce the word correctly, for heaven’s sake.

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 11:08 pm
The lying slapper is a great negotiator if you are an ALP toady who believes anything she says. If you are Marius Klopper or Tom Albanese you negotiate with the ALP and get a new tax that raises no money.

John Comnenus

19 Jan 13 at 11:09 pm
Go Brisbane Heat!!

2nd last on ladder with a few games to play and now likely to win the comp!

pete m

19 Jan 13 at 11:14 pm
I’m sure within the ALP Gillard IS a great negotiator. Gillard is a creature of the union powerbrokers due to a tumultuous history, so when she decides to negotiate, the ALP underlings listen verry verry carefully, as they don’t want to be deselected.

entropy

19 Jan 13 at 11:14 pm
Negotiating with Greens – give them what they want

Negotiating with Indep – give them what they want (but go turncoat on 1).

Yep, that is a fine record.

pete m

19 Jan 13 at 11:17 pm
Lol… I listened to the interview. It was so gay.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 11:19 pm
No but seriously, on what event(s) exactly does the love media base her “great negotiating” skills? They keep peddling this fantasy. Do people in general really believe it?

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 11:22 pm
Does mainstream Australia even give a toss?

Gab

19 Jan 13 at 11:23 pm
You can see the outline of the campaign to try and elect to the slapper and the ABC is right in the middle of it.

It was a very difficult parliament. Abbott was a complete beast, the Greens were always demanding extreme policies and the indeps were greedy. The only person able to wade through this morass was the slapper. … the world’s best negotiator.

JC

19 Jan 13 at 11:25 pm
No coincidence that Roy and HG ceased to be funny when they stopped taking the piss out of the ruling class because their creators (John Doyle and Greg Pickaver) are a couple of production-line leftwing brown-nosers for whome comedy gifts like Rudd and Gillard and Swan and Emerson and Wong and Roxon and Carr and Slipper and Thomson are off-limits.

Tom

19 Jan 13 at 11:27 pm
Apros of nothing, but a question to CL & perhaps DoverB. Does the easy access to abortion & abortifacients lessen somewhat the community reaction to rape?

Seriously beyond the enormous assault to personal dignity that the crime was punished for, the risk of pregnancy resulting was a large justification of the punishment. Rape carries as a maximum sentence life in my jurisdiction.

Just Another Bloody Lawyer

19 Jan 13 at 11:40 pm
Mates Inc:

THE Gillard government has become a Labor refugee camp for out-of-work premiers and ex-Labor government and union officials.

An analysis of recent Commonwealth appointments reads like a who’s who of former high-profile Labor figures. The Opposition has accused the Gillard government of engaging in a “jobs for the boys” program.

Appointments include former Victorian premier John Brumby to the chair of the Council of Australian Governments Reform Council on December 7.

Former Queensland premier Anna Bligh was appointed to the board of Medibank Private three days earlier.

Her South Australian counterpart Mike Rann, was given the role of Australia’s High Commissioner to the UK on August 23. In November, ex-Queensland Treasurer Andrew Fraser was appointed to Australian Sports Commission board.

A month later, Mr Fraser also joined the board of the new Moorebank Intermodal Company. Former Queensland attorney-general Cameron Dick was appointed to the chair of the Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Commission on November 30. And ex-Victor- ian Deputy Premier John Thwaites was given the chair of the National Sustainability Council in October.

Mr Thwaites was also appointed chairman of the Australian Building Codes Board in the previous year.

Former WA premier Geoff Gallop was given a job on the International Education Advisory Council and appointed chairman of the Australia Awards Board.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 12:16 am
Tom, this is, of course – or should be – criminal behaviour.

Anna Bligh, alone, presided over one of the largest administrative fuck-ups in the modern world (the nurses’ pay debacle) but she is appointed to Medibank Private.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 12:22 am
The Age is upset that the Liberal Party still has no Emily’s List:

Liberals have traditionally opposed quotas on the grounds of merit, but some are starting to wonder if it’s time for a rethink. After all, between 1994 (when Labor quotas were introduced) and 2010, the proportion of ALP women increased from 14.5 to 35.6 per cent.

Over the same period, the percentage of Liberal women only grew from 13.9 to 23.9 per cent.

In a policy paper released in 2010, then federal senator Judith Troeth called for a 40 per cent quota to rectify the glacial pace at which Liberal women were entering Parliament.

Troeth’s proposal was immediately rejected, but she made a good point: the party had always reserved 50 per cent of positions for women within its organisational wing. Why then did it not embrace a similar system to get more women into Parliament?

A look at the current rabble in Canberra indicates the riches the Libs are missing out on.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 12:59 am
BREAKING: m0nty has a new Ghostbusters t-shirt, which glows in the dark (!!!!111!!!1!) and came via airmail (!!!111!!!) and he needs the world to know.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Cat.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 1:24 am
I don’t know why people get snarky and cynical about the 800,000 completely and totally disabled people in Australia whom we must support out of our pay packets because they are simply too frail and ill to ever work at anything, ever.

If only we would give young disability pensioners like poor little Omar more money they would not be driven to things like that. Roll on the NDIS.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 1:31 am
Krispy Kreme t-shirts. Just sayin’.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 1:38 am
Does the easy access to abortion & abortifacients lessen somewhat the community reaction to rape?

Seriously beyond the enormous assault to personal dignity that the crime was punished for, the risk of pregnancy resulting was a large justification of the punishment.

Just another bloody lawyer, I don’t know. It would be interesting to look at the judicial reasoning provided over the centuries which justify distinguishing rape from other forms of assault as well as the quantum of punishment it has attracted. What is interesting however, given current attitudes to sex, is whether rape or sexual assault still amount to an “enormous assault to personal dignity” as it once did that could distinguish it from common assault or battery?

dover_beach

20 Jan 13 at 1:39 am
Does the easy access to abortion & abortifacients lessen somewhat the community reaction to rape?

JABL, I don’t think so.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 1:41 am
The horror. Do the hardships of modern women never END?

CHILDCARE centres are scrapping places for babies as working parents wait up to two years for day care.

Three in every four long day-care centres in Australia’s capital cities do not have vacancies for babies, a new survey reveals. And two-thirds do not have places left for toddlers.

Brisbane parents are having to wait up to two years for a place, forcing them to quit their jobs, rely on grandparents or hire expensive nannies or unqualified babysitters.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 1:44 am
Sin Tax #FAIL:

60.9% of all smokes in NY go untaxed

Who could have seen that coming?

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 2:33 am
60.9% of all smokes in NY go untaxed

One of the few things the US still has going for it economically is freedom of movement between states (taxation jurisdictions). Unfortunately it means blue staters who have lived under the cosh for too long move to red states and take their mendicant ways with them.

Infidel Tiger

20 Jan 13 at 4:09 am
Open borders from Eastern Europe now!:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/a-better-political-climate/story-e6freuy9-1226557260209

Infidel Tiger

20 Jan 13 at 4:21 am
Turns out Gillard’s electorate is one of the free money capitals of Australia:

The largest number of single parents affected by the federal government’s decision to reduce their welfare payments live in the Prime Minister’s electorate in Melbourne’s west.

Labor MPs represent six of the 10 electorates with the largest number of people receiving the payment, according to an analysis done by the Department of Human Services late last year.

Ms Gillard’s electorate of Lalor is home to 4829 people, mostly women, who receive the single parent payment.

The Sydney seat of Chifley, held by Ed Husic, has the next highest number – 4548.

Other Labor seats that feature in the top 10 are Wakefield in South Australia, held by Nick Champion, Rankin in Queensland, held by the Minister for Trade, Craig Emerson, Fowler in Sydney, held by Chris Hayes, and Port Adelaide in South Australia, held by the Minister for Ageing, Mark Butler.

According to the department’s figures, three of the remaining four seats in the top 10 are held by Coalition MPs. The final one is Kennedy in far north Queensland, held by Bob Katter of Katter’s Australian Party.

Mr Katter said last week he thought the January 1 change that moved single parents on to the lower-paying unemployment payment was ”savage”

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 6:48 am
The largest number of single parents affected by the federal government’s decision to reduce their welfare payments live in the Prime Minister’s electorate in Melbourne’s west.

An electorate of Julias, with the State as their Baby Daddy.

Who’da thunk it.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 7:05 am
Oxfam: it’s the fault of the super rich that there is extreme poverty.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jan/19/super-rich-fight-poverty-oxfam

Oxfam said the world’s poorest could be lifted out of poverty several times over should the richest 100 billionaires give away the money they made last year.

So you can cure poverty by giving poor people money? What happens when that lot runs out? What about not diverting food into ethanol, or providing cheap coal-fired power to save lungs from dung and wood smoke?

Biota

20 Jan 13 at 7:08 am
All care and no responsibility is our Bob. Free stuff and the politics of complaint.

Entropy

20 Jan 13 at 7:10 am
Posted here yesterday, but worth a second look. The maths are intriguing — particularly the fact that Shane Wand is 17% more popular than the Lying Slapper, yet will be tipped out in a landslide:

According to ReachTEL, 45.2 per cent of respondents said they would vote for the Liberal-National Party candidate, Rod McGarvie, while 38 per cent said they would vote for Labor and Mr Swan. Just over 45 per cent of respondents (45.1 per cent) said their opinion of the Treasurer was unfavourable, compared with 34.1 per cent who said they had a favourable view of him.

Almost 20 per cent (19.1 per cent) were neutral and 1.8 per cent had not heard of the federal Treasurer.

In 2010, Mr Swan narrowly scraped home ahead of Mr McGarvie on preferences, weathering a 4.77 per cent swing against him.

The Treasurer was more popular with respondents than the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, who was judged unfavourably by 53.2 per cent of respondents and favourably by just 28.7 per cent.

The Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, was slightly more popular than the Prime Minister, with 51.5 per cent saying they had an unfavourable opinion of him compared with 29.2 per cent who said they liked him.

It’s a mad dog world: the working class and rising landowner class of western metropolitan Melbourne may well take the Slapper’s 22% margin in Lalor to within an inch, particularly since it’s now widely known that she was a crook in a previous life and was gifted her seat by the faceless men (her margin in 2004 was only 12%). A seat to watch on election night.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 7:17 am
You can’t make the poor, rich by making the rich, poor.

All you will do is make everyone more miserable.

Which is sort of the goal of the misanthropic miserablist.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 7:20 am
Jock McSporran is contemplating one final insult before the election, which may well come early courtesy of the queen of the misogynists:

There is one ploy that has not been used by the team of image makers who created Julia Gillard, the Real Julia and the Real Real Julia (as Kath or Kim might say). That is marriage.

There are pros and cons, as was explained by a Labor apparatchik. The gay marriage mob might use a prime ministerial marriage to press their own claims for untraditional marriage and it is possible the ploy might backfire.

But others say that most young women adore weddings and really, really want to get married, no matter what they might tell the pollsters.

A marriage and then an election. Is it possible? Or is it too much even for she who created the Gillard Line?

As Slipper considers charges against him, and whether he should resign, forcing a by-election, it must be tempting for the Prime Minister to wonder whether she should not have an election at the same time “to save the nation some money”.

She will have an opportunity to lay out the Gillard Line at the National Press Club on Wednesday, January 30. It should be fascinating.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 8:00 am
Bloody hell!!!! Fancy trying to work out who are the favoured bridemaids from Emily Listers. And Tim – The Scot Turd

Mike

Mike of Marion

20 Jan 13 at 8:19 am
The First Hairdresser would have to say yes to her proposal, and agree to his surname being changed to Gillard.

Biota

20 Jan 13 at 8:28 am
The UN has just made yet another contribution to impoverishing the world via junk science – this time by trying to ban mercury

crap

Note that the mercury that is used in thermometers (which they intend to ban) is inert and pretty harmless, as long as you don’t ingest it. However, the kind in mandated CFC lightbulbs (the gas version) is indeed very dangerous – but they are not on the banned list because of the global warming furphy.

The UN is determined to destroy wealth every chance it gets, and is an absolute menace to civilisation.

johanna

20 Jan 13 at 8:32 am
In order to attack the Baillieu government, The Age yesterday led its website with a beat-up about the role of a Liberal MP in her son’s council (!) election. The Age website today leads with a second beat up of the same story. This is a “news” website, folks. FMD.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 8:32 am
Richmond, NSW. Hottest day since records commenced!

Okay. Yeah. Wow! (Read when records commenced.)

kae

20 Jan 13 at 9:06 am
The First Hairdresser would have to say yes to her proposal, and agree to his surname being changed to Gillard.
Labor types often don’t go for the surname-changing thing. Even ‘married’ they’d keep separate surnames.

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 9:12 am
More Mates Inc.

The Labor MP Premier Campbell Newman defeated to claim the seat of Ashgrove has been appointed to the board of the federally funded Landcare Council.
Former [Queensland] Environment Minister Kate Jones has been appointed to the board of the council, which encourages farmers to use sustainable agricultural techniques.
Federal Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry Minister Joe Ludwig made the announcement in a statement today.
Ms Jones was the Labor MP for Ashgrove who was defeated by Mr Newman as part of his bid to become premier from outside Queensland Parliament.

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 9:17 am
Cold Hands, that article proves that the media have been pushing a lie when they say we need to pay our pollies well to get the best.

It is clear most politicians are unemployable outside of the endless string of highly paid taxpayer funded positions.

Token

20 Jan 13 at 9:28 am
Tom, that doesn’t surprise me about The Age. What surprises me is the Coalition keep preselecting candidates that live with the delusion the ABC, Fauxfacts and the majority of Newscorp journalist would stab them with a shiv if they show their back for 5 seconds.

Token

20 Jan 13 at 9:30 am
Has the MSM just stopped reporting illegal boat arrivals or have their really been no new arrivals in 2013 since the 7th January?

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 9:35 am
Tom: In regard to Gillard’s seat and that 22% margin, I wouldn’t hold my breath. The seat might have been winnable; indeed, there was a 14% swing against Labor in the by-election that preceded Victoria’s 2010 state election. I handed out how-to-votes that day and there was no doubt the natives were restless. I heard a lot of griping about the rotten train service, traffic snarls on the Westgate Bridge, crime, vandalism, and the fact that it is bloody difficult to get the cops to come quickly if there is trouble. I know as a result of personal experience that on a typical Saturday night there may be only one divvie van on the road between Williamstown and Werribee. One, for about 300,000 residents!

It is mortgage-belt aspirational territory and, just like Western Sydney, it should be an area where Howard Battlers might relish an opportunity to turn on the Labor hacks who have taken us Westies for granted for generations.

Unfortunately, we have now had two years of Ted Baillieu, and you couldn’t ask a better dis-incentive to vote Liberal.

Transport was an issue in 2010 and the locals would have appreciated some improvements. What did Ted allow to happen? Re-routing of trains so that now, rather than a direct ride into the CBD, Westies have to change trains, take longer to get to work and cool their heels waiting for connecting trains. Ted let that happen and it didn’t win us any votes.

Police? Well, there are plenty of booze buses and mobile speed cameras, but if there’s a wild party next door you’ve got more chance of winning Tatts than getting a divvie van to your street in less than three hours.

Ted and the (lobotomised) Victorian Liberal brains trust should have targeted the West. Instead, they have not only ignored it, they have made the grumbles of 2010 even worse.

Further down the Geelong Road, our side should win Corrangamite (400-something votes). But with Ted as the state’s Liberal standard bearer, I wouldn’t even bet on that.

areff

20 Jan 13 at 9:41 am
Democrats – plus Howardians – would prefer she was raped and murdered:

12 Year Old Shoots Home Intruder.

BRYAN COUNTY, OK–A day off for fall break was anything but relaxing for a 12-year old Bryan County girl, when an intruder broke into her home on Michael Avenue.

Deputies say, the girl was home alone when a man she’d never seen before, rang the front doorbell. They say when no one answered the door, the man went around to the back of the house and kicked a door open. That’s when authorities say, the girl grabbed a gun and hid in a bathroom closet.

“He had worked his way all the way through the house and into the bathroom. And from what we understand, he was turning the doorknob when she fired through the door.” Says Bryan County Under sheriff, Ken Golden.

After the man was shot, The 12- year old ran out of the closet and called for help.

Authorities say she kept her cool despite the potential danger. “She was very brave, she stayed on the phone with the dispatcher the whole time – talked all the way through it and was still on the phone with dispatch when we got into the house.” Says Golden.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 9:43 am
Not that the lesson doesn’t bear repeating but CL, we’ve had this one before (it’s date stamped Oct 18th 2012).

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 9:48 am
areff – the section of line I’m on has deteriorated since Baillieu came to power. So, as you say, no chance Gillard will be in play and the local MP (whatshername who replaced Kosky) actually campaigns on the public transport shemoozle. I reckon she’ll have an increased majority next state election.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 9:50 am
Areff, I am in the happy position of being one of the executioners of Labor idiot and gushing air tax zombie fan Darren Cheeseman in Corangamite. Don’t worry: he’ll be the first cab off the rank in 2013. But first I will attempt to get a commitment from Lib candidate and former ABC talking head Sarah Henderson to support the sale of the ABC.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 9:55 am
Prime Minister Abbott negotiation with Indeps and Greenslime

Le Chiffre

20 Jan 13 at 9:57 am
Le Chiffre, we can only hope.

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 10:05 am
Tom, expect Gillard’s mob to throw everything at Corrangamite. As you know, re-districting means a big chunk of Belmont is now in the electorate, so there will handouts to Ford and tons of vote-buying.

And don’t discount the dirt factor. Labor tried to smear Henderson for her personal life before the last election, and its operatives used Vex News to float rumours and accusations it couldn’t say openly for fear of defamation of suits.

Expect more of the dirty same

areff

20 Jan 13 at 10:09 am
Ted and the (lobotomised) Victorian Liberal brains trust should have targeted the West. Instead, they have not only ignored it, they have made the grumbles of 2010 even worse.

I live in the electorate next to Gillard’s.

I agree with Areff.

Although Gillard’s seat would appear to be rock solid Labor at a 20% plus margin and although it might well have a very large ‘single mother’ constituency, there is a much, much larger constituency of hard working second and third generation italians, who are very much aspirational voters.

The seat may well have been rock solid Labor in the first generation of these voters, but now, that is far from the case.

The Federal Liberals could have done a hell of a lot of damage to Labor in this seat at the next election if the Liberal State government had done anything at all to appeal to these ‘Howard Aspirationals’, but Bailleau has been a complete and utter disaster for the Liberal brand, not just in this electorate but right throughout the western suburban areas of Melbourne where votes were there for the picking.

Frankly, as a long suffering Victorian conservative I don’t understand how he was ever even voted in let alone how he and his party will ever survive the next election – and that is saying something given the total mess the Bracks/Brumby Labor Party made of this State.

Seriously, it could make you weep in frustration at how useless the Bailleu government has been.

Greg James

20 Jan 13 at 10:10 am
Greg James: You’re not another inmate of Roxon’s little kingdom by the Bay, are you? Sadly, I think we’re stuck with her, come what may in the rest of the country.

Bernie Finn is a Liberal, a Westie and full of fight. But I’ve heard other, Baillieu-style bag him as an uncouth anomaly — you know, “not one of us”.

Bernie is out there every weekend, working his district and generating headlines whenever he can. For this he gets sneered at.

areff

20 Jan 13 at 10:17 am
Areff, you got it in one!

I am, most unfortunately, a captive of the Roxon Kingdom, which of course is located just to the north of the Gillard Collective.

Unfortunately, I cannot see that there are any conservative votes to be had in my own little electorate, given that it now seems to have been divvied up about 50:50 between new North African immigrants and students and inner city green wankers who are escaping the prices of Fitzroy and Carlton.

All I’m waiting for – in abject despair – is for my local 1950′s Greek Fish and Chip shop to be converted into a Chai Tea House run by two blokes called Jeremy and Simon, and then I’ll know it’s time for me to move on.

Greg James

20 Jan 13 at 10:35 am
Where I live, Willy, the last relics of the old West are

(1) the Housing Commission towers overlooking Nelson Place (Labor voters are best stored vertically)

(2) The Rose Hotel on Ferguson Street.

Beemers and doctor’s wives infest the Coles carpark on Douglas Parade. Very hard sometimes for a Yarraville-bred old timer like me to get my head around the changes.

areff

20 Jan 13 at 10:45 am
Look on the bright side I get the pleasure of putting Roxon last on the ballot and before the redistribution I got the pleasure of putting Gillard last on the ballot.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 10:49 am
Is there an outside chance that the Libs can win Canberra which includes aspirational Tugeranong and wealthy South Canberra which voted Lib in the ACT election and Woden Valley which was close.

John Comnenus

20 Jan 13 at 10:53 am
Similar in SA. Labor stinks to high heaven but they are safe as we have a very divided (faction) Liberal party currently led by a publicity shy Isobel Redmond.

Even Downer is thinking of having a go but in my view, that is not going to work with the Electorate

Mike of Marion

20 Jan 13 at 10:56 am
What I’m saying above is because the State Liberal Party is ineffectual, it will rub off in the Fed Elections.

Mike of Marion

20 Jan 13 at 10:58 am
Mike you also live in the State where the Libs keep getting well more than 50% 2PP but can’t form government. Obviously SA has the most incompetent electoral commission in Australia and a Liberal Party that is happy to stay in opposition despite winning elections. At almost every level and in every area the Libs only play by the ALP – Lefty rules.

John Comnenus

20 Jan 13 at 11:02 am
Look on the bright side I get the pleasure of putting Roxon last on the ballot and before the redistribution I got the pleasure of putting Gillard last on the ballot.

Yeah … I did the same; but it still galled me to have to even put a number against the oil-haired harridan because I knew with the inevitable distribution in my electorate she would end up with my vote.

Anyway, I suppose we all take our small pleasures as best we can.

Greg James

20 Jan 13 at 11:04 am
Police? Well, there are plenty of booze buses and mobile speed cameras, but if there’s a wild party next door you’ve got more chance of winning Tatts than getting a divvie van to your street in less than three hours.

Listening to Adam Carolla discuss the decline in LA into a high taxing law and order free welfare zone he notes his disgust at how the LA police force is been focused more and more resources to collect revenue from citizens, with the cost that those resources are not available to persecute criminals.

He posts the following images:

1. A citizen gets booked by cops manning a police trap by rolling for the disgusting crime of not stopping at a stop sign.

2. Look at the way this car is parked a mere 50m down the road when purchasing flowers from an illegal immigrant selling flowers without a permit.

I’ve now posted 3 links so I’m at my limit, so I can’t post the link to the Stossel episode where LA county persecutes licensed food vendors for minor violations, yet at the same time ignores these illegals who are selling food without a license.

That is our future.

Token

20 Jan 13 at 11:06 am
Because you have a right to privacy, fuckknuckle and the ownership of a gun in the US is perfectly legal supported by the constitution. The people named in that rag did everything that was expected of them in terms of legal requirements yet they had their names and addresses published in the leftist rag. Those who possess illegal guns weren’t. So in effect the law abiding citizens were punished for following the law.

Right to privacy is not a blanket restriction on publishing everything about a person. If you own a house its on the public record, often along with how much you paid for it. Information about gun owners was already public, the newspaper just made it easier for the general population to access.

And if you believe the claims about guns being a deterrent to crime, they weren’t punished, but rewarded with free publicity to criminals to avoid their homes and rob someone else instead. The real question is why are so many gun owners ashamed of being publicly known as owning a gun?

Chris

20 Jan 13 at 11:06 am
But first I will attempt to get a commitment from Lib candidate and former ABC talking head Sarah Henderson to support the sale of the ABC.

Good luck, most Coalition politicians are committed to provided endless funds to organisation with a mission statement to ensure the agenda of the Greens is achieved.

Token

20 Jan 13 at 11:08 am
And if you believe the claims about guns being a deterrent to crime, they weren’t punished, but rewarded with free publicity to criminals to avoid their homes and rob someone else instead.

Chris, I read on 19/1 9:20am you are happy for names and addresses of all gun owners including law enforcement officials and judges to be published.

You made it very clear that the law is only to be applied when it suits your political agenda so STFU.

Token

20 Jan 13 at 11:10 am
That is our future.

No.
If the gun crazies get their way, this is our future.

1735099

20 Jan 13 at 11:16 am
And if you believe the claims about guns being a deterrent to crime, they weren’t punished, but rewarded with free publicity to criminals to avoid their homes and rob someone else instead.

This has to be one of the most infantile arguments I’ve read.

dover_beach

20 Jan 13 at 11:54 am
EXCLUSIVE: Newspaper publishes showbusiness “news” story without the moral condemnation of young people who don’t conform to the Good German stereotype required in Nanny Roxon’s fascist leftwing toilet:

REECE Mastin and his girlfriend Rhiannon Fish looked so cool as they smoked while strolling through Queensland’s Broadbeach.

We’re just kidding. In fact, the couple, who are both looked up to as role models by Australia’s teens and tweens, looked far from cool as they sucked back on cigarettes after a big night out.

Dressed in cut-off denim shorts and an over-sized knitted sweater, 21-year-old Fish looked worse for wear as she and The X Factor winner walked to a 7-Eleven store to collect supplies near their hotel.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 12:05 pm
Meanwhile, in other Nanny Roxon toilet news, a dial-a-mob will stage a coffee morning to protest against… something:

UP TO 800 angry breastfeeding advocates will converge outside the Sydney studio of the Seven Network’s Sunrise program to protest against comments made by host David Koch.

Discussing a story about a Queensland woman who was told she couldn’t feed her baby at a public pool, Koch said on Friday he supported breastfeeding, but that women should be “classy” about it.

The comments prompted an immediate backlash with enraged nursing mothers and other breastfeeding supporters setting up a Facebook page to encourage people to participate in the Sunrise Nurse-In on Monday.

“Up to 800″, eh? It will actually be about 12 Barking Betty Balmain Mia Freeman zombies having a shriek about the fact that Kochie isn’t a moocher. Besides, he’s apparently involved with those sweaty AFL neanderthals.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 12:19 pm
Yeah … I did the same; but it still galled me to have to even put a number against the oil-haired harridan because I knew with the inevitable distribution in my electorate she would end up with my vote.

Ahhh, strictly speaking if you put them last then never do actually get your vote. They need to be able to win WITHOUT your vote in order to win at all, and after that, the election is over and done with. Thus, last preferences never get redistributed. Hope that’s a comfort to you.

Usually though, they have won even after second preferences.

Tel

20 Jan 13 at 12:39 pm
And if you believe the claims about guns being a deterrent to crime…

So why are the Obama children guarded by armed men?

GO!

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 1:10 pm
If the Gillard gets more money by resigning just before the election than she gets by going to the polls and losing, then she’ll resign and get her nose into the trough through another QANGO.
The Labor Party will have a fresh untainted face with no grubby past, and can ask for another go under new leadership.
Far fetched?
But she’s a great negotiator…

Winston Smith

20 Jan 13 at 1:13 pm
Democrats pounce, tragedy averted:

5-year-old suspended for threatening to shoot girl with pink toy that blows soapy bubbles.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 1:14 pm
A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink Hello Kitty toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.

Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days for issuing a ‘terroristic threat.’ But her punishment was reduced to two days after her mother met with school officials and had the incident dropped to ‘threatening to harm another student,’ which apparently carries a lesser punishment.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 1:16 pm
Poor old thing:

Heartbroken dog attends daily Mass.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 1:25 pm
Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution

VR

20 Jan 13 at 1:50 pm
oops here is the link.
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Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution

VR

20 Jan 13 at 1:51 pm
VR – That is a Fairfax staple – every time the government cuts welfare or increases HECS or whatever, prostitution increases.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 1:55 pm
Hi Sinc!!! I understand. I think the two key words were the labor government. And I thought they were bleeding hearts out to solve all of the world’s inequities.

VR

20 Jan 13 at 2:09 pm
Lol

JC

20 Jan 13 at 2:09 pm
VR – are you still in Melbourne?

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 2:16 pm
Been on the road, Sinc. Just got back to QLD.

VR

20 Jan 13 at 2:18 pm
Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution

Craig Thomson is heading up a task force to look into it.

Infidel Tiger

20 Jan 13 at 2:19 pm
And if you believe the claims about guns being a deterrent to crime…

The girl in the bathroom cupboard found her gun not so much a deterrent but a preventative.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/23/12-year-old-girl-shoots-home-intruder/

Tel

20 Jan 13 at 2:21 pm
Beautiful.

Remember last year’s epic Krugman-Estonia Twitter battle?

A Twitter feud in June between the Estonian president and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman who questioned the impact of Estonia’s austerity measures, is being turned into an opera, US composer Eugene Birman told AFP on Wednesday.

“Our short opera will be first performed by Iris Oja and the Tallinn Chamber Orchestra conducted by Risto Joost during Tallinn Music Week on April 7,” Birman, who moved from Riga to the US at age of six, told AFP.

The piece, in two movements, uses two voices, those of Krugman and Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves, reflecting their exchanges on the Twitter social network.

“‘Nostra Culpa’ (Our Fault) is a short 16 minutes operatic piece which takes up the age-old economic disagreement of austerity vs. stimulus,” journalist Scott Diel, who wrote the opera’s libretto, told AFP.

One of the commnenters suggests it feature helicopters.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 2:21 pm
Okay – I should be up there in around July.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 2:22 pm
Galactic Empire mocks Obama’s White House over refusal to build Death Star.

[In] an unusual press release on the official Star Wars website. Datelined “Imperial City, Coruscant”, the post crows about the “overwhelming superiority” of Imperial forces over the United States.
The post quotes one Governor Wilhuff Tarkin (not yet promoted to Grand Moff): “Such destructive power can only be wielded to protect and defend by so enlightened a leader as Emperor Palpatine.”

Tarkin wouldn’t confirm rumours that the Imperials themselves are constructing a Death Star of their own, though Admiral Conan Motti (not yet the guy who was force-choked by Darth Vader) warned the Senate not to believe the petition response’s “exaggerated claims” of a weakness in the Death Star design, “should one ever be built”.

Motti also took issue with a claim in the White House petition, based on calculations by economics students at LeHigh University, that the Death Star would cost $US852 quadrillion (or 13,000 times global GDP). The estimate was based on the market price of steel.

“The costs of construction they cited were ridiculously overestimated, though I suppose we must keep in mind that this minuscule planet does not have our massive means of production,” wrote Motti.
The White House could not be reached for comment.

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 2:25 pm
“Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution”
Julia Gillard says married women have had it too much their way for too long.

JimD

20 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm
Sinc – I most likely will also see you before that. Will be home in March

VR

20 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm
Great stuff.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 2:28 pm
Herald Sun running the prostitution story too.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 2:31 pm
So the assumption is that a large number of these women have the bodies attractive enough tobe strippers?

I’m betting against that.

JC

20 Jan 13 at 2:42 pm
Is the link completely fantastic, though, Sinclair?

(Although the sources for that story seem to be unnamed brothel ‘receptionists’ – which isn’t entirely authoritative).

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 2:44 pm
Piers Akerman discusses the “Gillard Line” and also considers a Gillard Marriage as electoral ploy.

LAST April, Julia Gillard belatedly discovered that a line had been crossed somewhere and she had to act.

This year’s election will undoubtedly see the crossing of a few more.

The most famous line in our country till now has been the Brisbane Line which, it has been argued, marked the line of defence for the nation should the Japanese attack from the north. Then there is Goyder’s Line which runs through South Australia and, using rainfall as a guide, delineates land suitable for agriculture. Above us, between Bali and Lombok in the south and Borneo and Sulawesi in the north, runs Wallace’s Line, which marks the boundary between Asian and Australian fauna.

The newest hypothetical mark on the geopolitical atlas is the Gillard Line, which doesn’t seem to mark much.

Though much was made of the crossing of the eponymous Gillard Line by the Prime Minister when she mentioned it – in terms of political reality, nothing changed.

“I do believe a line has been crossed here and because a line has been crossed, I have acted,” she said.

Acted? Play-acted would be closer to the mark because play-acting in accordance to the focus group-tested scripts is what Gillard does best.

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 2:44 pm
Sorry, forgot the link.

Cold-Hands

20 Jan 13 at 2:50 pm
Another industry saved by Gillard – prostitution!

Add that one to school shed builders, green car makers and alternate energy consultants!

pete m

20 Jan 13 at 2:54 pm
Rafe

Shiny responded to Matt Ridley.

Take a read it’s really just unhinged incoherent crap which shiny excells at.

Shiny can’t write if his next meal depended on it.

Take a look. He’s really pathetic.

JC

20 Jan 13 at 3:45 pm
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2013/01/14/matt-ridley-responds-with-a-sleight-of-hand/

JC

20 Jan 13 at 3:47 pm
Hope The Black Steam Train is OK, it’s been over 3 months since his blogs updated.
That said I’m not on facebook or twitter, so he could be doing stuff there.

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 3:55 pm
as they sucked back on cigarettes after a big night out.

Dressed in cut-off denim shorts and an over-sized knitted sweater, 21-year-old Fish looked worse for wear as she and The X Factor winner walked to a 7-Eleven store to collect supplies near their hotel.

Ah, memories. Those were days, my friend, I thought they’d never end….

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 4:05 pm
… as they sucked back on cigarettes after a big night out.

Young people smoking – it’s an outrage, I tells ya!

Rabz

20 Jan 13 at 4:08 pm
The increasingly hysterical Broken Rites anti-Catholic lobby group should perhaps just sit this one out.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 4:10 pm
I don’t know how I did it, out all night dancing and what not then straight to work, don the lab coat and put in an eight hour shift, no worries. That was earlier….but now….

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 4:11 pm
REECE Mastin and his girlfriend Rhiannon Fish looked so cool as they smoked while strolling through Queensland’s Broadbeach.

We’re just kidding. In fact, the couple, who are both looked up to as role models by Australia’s teens and tweens, looked far from cool as they sucked back on cigarettes after a big night out.

Good dogs – Nicola has a biscuit for you, yes she does.

Journalists and arbiters of cool “J. Mo & Elle” pictured here.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 4:14 pm
Chris, I read on 19/1 9:20am you are happy for names and addresses of all gun owners including law enforcement officials and judges to be published.

You made it very clear that the law is only to be applied when it suits your political agenda so STFU.

At the time the newspaper published the information it wasn’t illegal to do so. Has anyone at the newspaper been prosecuted for breaking the law?

And aside from publishing it does seem fairly reasonable that I be able to find out if a neighbour owns a gun, especially if they are acting a bit odd or aggressively.

Chris

20 Jan 13 at 4:15 pm
Heartbroken dog attends daily Mass.

How very sad, poor doggy. Look how heart-broken his body language in that picture. Brought a tear or two to my eyes. Good to see the village look after him but I do hope he gets adopted soon. God’s creatures, great and small.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 4:15 pm
Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution

Do they have to pay tax or is it cash in hand?

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 4:19 pm
Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution

Excellent, finally a Labor policy that encourages employment.
In a sane world, this would give the ALP a boost in the polls.

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 4:34 pm
It’s not the cash that is in hand. It’s the credit card. Remember the recent contretemps in Federal parliament. The one before Slipper and the one about the AWU fund.

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Jan 13 at 4:35 pm
Labor government is driving women (single mothers) into prostitution

Could be worse – they could be driven into presstitution…

Rabz

20 Jan 13 at 4:36 pm
It’s not the cash that is in hand.

I thought you were going down a different avenue with that. My bad. I’m a baaad pussygato.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 4:40 pm
Joe Biden:

“I’m proud to be President Of The United States.”

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 4:44 pm
Priceless. Mr Biden is the gift that keeps on giving. Thankyou C.L.

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Jan 13 at 5:02 pm
Gab, the dog will eventually adopt someone. He’s just going through all the menus at the moment.

Winston Smith

20 Jan 13 at 5:04 pm
Teachers are the ” go to ” experts that we entrusten to edumacate our kids.

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 5:06 pm
Dover – What is interesting however, given current attitudes to sex, is whether rape or sexual assault still amount to an “enormous assault to personal dignity” as it once did that could distinguish it from common assault or battery?

If you were a public figure this statement would be construed as an inference that comparatively liberal attitudes to sex make rape not so bad.

Adrien

20 Jan 13 at 5:09 pm
“JC, ironic she says that when she sells her ice cream to be served on an aircraft flying at 30,000 feet, powered by, gasp, Avgas.”
nic
19 Jan 13 at 12:32 am

Sorry to be repetitively painful, but once more…. jets do not use avgas. Avgas is a high octane gasoline or petrol. Aircraft with piston engines use avgas. Jets use avtur a.k.a. aviation turbine fuel a.k.a. jet fuel a. k. a. kerosine. Please feel free to ignore this, your humble pedant.

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Jan 13 at 5:11 pm
WTF?!

Adrien

20 Jan 13 at 5:14 pm
Fortunately there were no apostrophes needed in the teacher’s message. What’s the chances they would accidentally get them correct.

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Jan 13 at 5:15 pm
Rape is a particularly brutal form of assault or battery. I suppose I can’t fully imagine what it was like for a woman, but I’d rather be stabbed with a knife than rammed up the bum, especially when you consider that the offender may have AIDS or other diseases. I personally don’t feel that bashing those type of people to death, either at the moment or later, is an unreasonable response.

John Mc

20 Jan 13 at 5:15 pm
One of Fairfax’s least food-worthy zombies, a freelance writer who now has not one but now two columns a week, is distressed that anyone could refer to muzzies as “medieval fascist nutjobs” — a tag that more accurately fits Christians, he thinks. Tim Blair puts the howling little brat on his knee and explains the world to him.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 5:22 pm
Hey, why is Tim Blair mentioning Al Qaeda? Obumma told us after bin Laden went for a swim with the fishes that Al Qaeda was weakened and no longer a threat. Another bloody lie.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 5:37 pm
Yes, Gab, but that was a different type of Al Qaeda, the type of Al Qaeda we are all used to, not like now. The point being that it’s not the normal kind of Al Qaeda.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 6:17 pm
The point being that it’s not the normal kind of Al Qaeda.

LOL

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 6:31 pm
I don’t know how I did it, out all night dancing and what not then straight to work, don the lab coat and put in an eight hour shift, no worries. That was earlier….but now….

A lab coat covers a party dress very effectively, Gab. And you can blame your mucked-up eye make-up on your microscope.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

20 Jan 13 at 6:32 pm
At that stage, Lizzie, I was woring with a multinational cosmetics company so eye make-up easily fixed

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 6:35 pm
Never ceases to amaze me how you can link things up like that, CL. lol!

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 6:36 pm
Is it too much to ask for some form of advisory warning when linking to a Nanny Roxon or Mrs Magoo jpeg?

H B Bear

20 Jan 13 at 6:37 pm
I was working with a multinational cosmetics company

the Ponds Institute?

Rabz

20 Jan 13 at 6:52 pm
Is it too much to ask for some form of advisory warning when linking to a Nanny Roxon or Mrs Magoo jpeg?

Of course it is, Bear – you wouldn’t hit the linky otherwise!

Rabz

20 Jan 13 at 6:53 pm
Prime Minister Julia Gillard, who has remembered Tony Greig at a public memorial service in Sydney, says the former England captain was a towering figure.

He was a tall (6 feet 6 inches or 1.98 metres)!
McT writing again?

stackja

20 Jan 13 at 7:08 pm
HELLO Huey

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 7:12 pm
Looks like Graham but sounds like Tilman.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 7:14 pm
Next installment of the Greens & ABC campaign against Orica has been aired on the 7.00pm TV news.
These people won’t rest until there’s no industry remaining but tollgate keepers on national parks.

blogstrop

20 Jan 13 at 7:15 pm
Am I in Al Qaeda?

Yes.

If I was would I know.

No.

How do you know whether you are in the tent or not?

More mossie bites inside the tent.

That is just the beginning to the revisionism needed with your paragraph.

Thanks. Could you also sweep the front porch for me? There’s a good fellow.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 7:17 pm
That’s no Kingfish. Mere baitfish.

blogstrop

20 Jan 13 at 7:21 pm
Why do men and women have different concepts of time? Especially the time it takes to get somewhere on time – like an airport, or for us today, a boat trip? Da Hairy Ape mostly works to getting ready in a leisurely Irish time while simultaneously expecting to reach a destination in his allocated time, which is totally contingent-free and reliant on his superior driving skills.

Lizzie, you are panicking in three dimensions, he tells me with an unconcerned flourish, as I urge making haste. I take offence and go quiet, but I try to make up once we are actually on the road by observing a caravan for sale and asking if he had ever thought of buying a caravan.

No, he says dismissively and astringently without even considering it. No. You are making a good start with da random observations today, Lizzie.

He should watch out or I will book us a caravan holiday and do a Lysistrata until he agrees to spend a week in a van with me for just reward. He would not like that.

Except we had a lovely day together in the end and I am not so mean, nor so disciplined. Plus it would break his heart and his spirit.

On the political comment front: yes, all young girls (and even older ones) love finding their ideal man and getting married. There is nothing like it. So a Gillard wedding could be on the cards if she gets desperate.

And now to TV: da Vikings are on again on SBS in five minutes. My fave.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

20 Jan 13 at 7:26 pm
someone’s left the birdcage door open…

squawkbox

20 Jan 13 at 7:37 pm
Fuck me dead. Another 18-year-old knowall troll. Did you bring a pooper scooper to clean up after yourself?

Tell you what, sport. I have been a journalist for a lifetime. I am also a trained actor with a diploma in professional lying in a darkened room full of strangers. Thankfully, that experience cured me.

Yes, TV journalists are amateur actors who prepare a little soap opera every night for the six o’clock news. But they’re not liars.

You’re an amateur head case. Like a crack addict who thinks he has discovered the secret, you’re trying to wrap your shrunken brain around stuff other people have been thinking about for a century.

And now you’re lecturing us on economics. FMD.

Do it somewhere else. Fuck off.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 7:43 pm
Sinc, this one doesn’t even need to humoured or banned and lectured via private email. It’s determined to disembowel itself tonight.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 7:48 pm
Lizzie, you can try on the Lysistrata role, but don’t have your portrait done by an Aubrey Beardsley fan – they all come out pear shaped, not pert!

blogstrop

20 Jan 13 at 7:49 pm
Hilarious cats in water video.

Eddystone

20 Jan 13 at 7:50 pm
I have noticed that Bird’s visits tend to follow the lunar cycle.
While I am not sure that this nutter is Bird, is it a full moon by chance?

Huckleberry Chunkwot

20 Jan 13 at 7:50 pm
JC, sdog, Mk50, Rabz. Get here! Lefty head exploding in technicolour. Gab, you’re good at this. Whose diction is he using?

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 7:55 pm
is it a full moon by chance?

Only 63% – full moon isn’t ’til the 27th.

Tintarella di Luna

20 Jan 13 at 7:55 pm
Not a full moon at the moment. I think he turns up whenever he’s found a new conspiracy theory and wants to spread the word in his own inimitable way.

squawkbox

20 Jan 13 at 7:56 pm
Hey Bird, what ever happened to Phil the Tranny?

JC

20 Jan 13 at 7:57 pm
If you would just pretend it’s not there, it would poop in the corner and leave!

Eddystone

20 Jan 13 at 7:58 pm
It’s da Bird, Tom.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 7:59 pm
Hilarious! Eddystone that vid is priceless. There’s a cat doing the dog paddle….and lol on the kid trying to throw the cat in the pool.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 8:03 pm
[No encouraging Bird. Sinc]

Fisky

20 Jan 13 at 8:05 pm
That’s insane! Cats HATE water!!!

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 8:08 pm
Tom, it’s not a lefty, it’s just a man that occasionally forgets to take his medication.
When he is unmedicated, he pays us a visit and regales us with wild tales until Sinc realises and then bans him.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

20 Jan 13 at 8:10 pm
[No encouraging Bird. Sinc]

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 8:10 pm
Greetings, Gra Gra!

Rabz

20 Jan 13 at 8:11 pm
I loved the little kid trying to throw the cat in the water…FAIL!!

Eddystone

20 Jan 13 at 8:11 pm
And the cat all relaxed and soaking in a tub!

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 8:13 pm
Guy jumps onstage and points a little pistol at the head of a Bulgarian politician who is giving a speech.

Hilarity ensues.

(Check out the old guy right at the end!)

Eddystone

20 Jan 13 at 8:15 pm
[No encouraging Bird. Sinc]

Rabz

20 Jan 13 at 8:15 pm
Okay – the latest outbreak of Birdism has been eradicated.

Sinclair Davidson

20 Jan 13 at 8:17 pm
[No encouraging Bird. Sinc]

Fisky

20 Jan 13 at 8:17 pm
And the cat all relaxed and soaking in a tub!

That was hilarious Gab.

I’ve got a cat that likes to put her paw in the water when she drinks, but that was the first time I’ve seen a cat put it’s head under the tap to get a drink.

Eddystone

20 Jan 13 at 8:18 pm
Graeme, have you ever tried to put a cat’s head under water? I think I tried it once and had my arm shredded.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 8:18 pm
Could be worse – they could be driven into presstitution…

Haaaah what a shock Rabz am doing my catch up about 4 hours behind but that was really a shock to the system

Tintarella di Luna

20 Jan 13 at 8:19 pm
Thank you, your allknowingness.

Tom

20 Jan 13 at 8:20 pm
Oh no! The truth has been covered up AGAIN by Rothschild surrogate Professor Davidstein!

Fisky

20 Jan 13 at 8:21 pm
The evil bald fascist gnome strikes again! It’s a conspiracy I tells ya!!!

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 8:22 pm
Wow, that Huey long chap must have a very tolerant wife.
Or a sensible ex-wife.

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 8:23 pm
[No encouraging Bird. Sinc]

jupes

20 Jan 13 at 8:26 pm
Anti-guns loony and phony children protector, Andrew Cuomo, launches campaign to kill more children.

CL, I heard today that since the abortion law changed here in Vicstan recently, up to 400 babies have been aborted just before their due dates.

The lady who told me was most upset and felt that sort of information should be all over the media.

It won’t be, of course.

I will admit to not knowing how true this is, but this lady is plugged into the pro-life movement down here, so she’d have a better idea than I would. It is also not an unexpected result, given the commodification of children and babies these days.

nilk

20 Jan 13 at 8:27 pm
racism as a legitimate point of view.

Note to self: Don’t drink and post

jupes

20 Jan 13 at 8:29 pm
Faith in humanity moment.
( a bit lumpy throaty )

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 8:31 pm
Nilk, Nilk – there are bigger problems out there.

Like the fact that there aren’t enough places FOR BABIES in our ‘childcare’ facilities.

Honestly, Australian women: if you’re contemplating putting your little baby into ‘care’ all day you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 8:35 pm
If the housing market wasn’t so pumped up by various factors then people could afford to be stay-at-home mums again, which is the best child care by far.

blogstrop

20 Jan 13 at 8:42 pm
All I ever wanted was to be a stay-at-home mother like my mother was. I got my wish but only by having a child with severe disabilities. What a ride, exhausting and exhilarating and worth ever single second. Two children at both ends of the spectrum have given me a unique prism through which to view life.

Tintarella di Luna

20 Jan 13 at 8:52 pm
Honestly, Australian women: if you’re contemplating putting your little baby into ‘care’ all day you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Too right.
Mrs Jumpnmcar and I raised three kids, both of us worked fulltime, she on split shifts and nights and me all day, for 12 years.
Never wanted or demanded ” child care “.
I loath the fact some people regard ” child care ” as an “entitlement “.

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 8:53 pm
Tintarella, my 8:31pm is for you then, all the best.

jumpnmcar

20 Jan 13 at 8:56 pm
my 8:31pm is for you then, all the best.

Thanks Jump yeah saw that earlier in the day – at the risk of sounding maudling – it’s the people who need help and understanding that bring out the best in us when we give them that help and understanding.

I think that people with disabilities and people who need help have a very important role to play – it’s they who challenge us to help them be the best they can be – and in doing so it makes us the best we can be – they make us truly human.

Enough of that now.

Tintarella di Luna

20 Jan 13 at 9:03 pm
that’s maudlin -

Tintarella di Luna

20 Jan 13 at 9:03 pm
I think that people with disabilities and people who need help have a very important role to play

Absolutely 100% true. They are our most important teachers.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 9:07 pm
it does seem fairly reasonable that I be able to find out if a neighbour owns a gun, especially if they are acting a bit odd or aggressively.

The vast majority of gun crimes are committed by people with illegal, and thus unregistered, weapons. People with these guns will not show up on an “name & shame” list.

If you’re going to be shot in America (which, if you’re not black or hispanic and not involved in drug gangs is statistically just about as likely as your being shot in Australia), it will almost certinly be by someone who did NOT show up on that map, because for some crazy reason criminals intent on breaking all other laws do not feel compelled to register their illegally obtained weapons.

Registered gun owners are actually more a more law-abiding cohort than the average citizen – and by some statistics, more law-abiding than the average policeman.

The map aimed at intimidating lawful gun owners: “WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!!!” And you’re being disingenuous if you won’t admit that that was the main aim there.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 9:26 pm
The baby ‘childcare’ story here.

Hey, how can we solve this ‘crisis’?

Well, take a big guess:

Ms Bridge said the Federal Government should pay parents a higher subsidy for babies to cover the higher fees.

“It is unviable for services to provide baby care with the same rate of (government) subsidy as older children,” she told The Sunday Mail.

Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young said the survey showed the availability of day care for babies had fallen by 10 per cent over the past three years.

“Obviously there is a looming crisis in the sector,” she said.

“The government needs to be doing far more to improve both the quality and availability of childcare while also helping mums and dads cover the costs.”

The Federal Government will spend a record $4.4 billion on childcare subsidies and rebates to parents this financial year, Treasury budget papers show.

Federal Childcare Minister Kate Ellis has blamed the states and territories for the shortage of places, and demanded they fast-track planning approval for new centres.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 9:27 pm
4.4 billion on childcare – sounds like some form of despised middle class welfare.

Blogstrop

20 Jan 13 at 9:30 pm
Another issue with that map is that in New York, most gun permits are for home use only. Your gun has to stay in your home 24/7. Thus they have provided a road-map for criminals wishing to steal weapons.

Watch and wait for the gun-owner to leave the house, break in, crack open their gun safe or just steal the whole danged thing, and there you go.

It’s already happened to at least two families on the list.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 9:31 pm
“Obviously there is a looming crisis

There’s always a looming crisis in Leftyland. Everyday there’s a crisis that is looming. Not a day goes by without some lefty declaring yet more impending doom. Not only are they miserablists, they’re fake doomsayers making people depressed over their constant dooming and glooming. This is how they justify their pathetic existence. making the rest of humanity melancholic and despondent is their raison d’etre.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 9:40 pm
“Guy jumps onstage and points a little pistol at the head of a Bulgarian politician who is giving a speech.

Hilarity ensues.

(Check out the old guy right at the end!)”

With any luck the Bulgarians will charge the old dope trying to hold his colleagues back with attempted denial of their fundamental human right, and obligation, to kick the living suitcase out of the offender.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

20 Jan 13 at 9:44 pm
it does seem fairly reasonable that I be able to find out if a neighbour owns a gun, especially if they are acting a bit odd or aggressively.

Actually, thinking about it, I think it’s our right to see a map of everyone who is on SSRI antidepressants.

Sure, they’re a legal product just like guns, but given that most mass-shooters lately have been on them, don’t we have the right to “find out if a neighbour ~~owns a gun~~ is on psychotropic drugs , especially if they are acting a bit odd or aggressively”?

Also a map of everyone on food stamps, and of all families with children where the biological father is not in residence. Also, hell, a map of everyone who’s ever been treated for alcohol or other substance abuse issues. I mean, it’s not illegal to be on anti-depressants, or on the dole, or be a single mother, or be a drunk or an ex-druggie. So why should these people worry that they’re being placed on a map like dangerous pedophiles?

This is getting a bit “Lives of Others” -ish, no?

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 9:45 pm
Not only are they miserablists, they’re fake doomsayers making people depressed over their constant dooming and glooming.

Yes, I found I was far too optimistic to be a true lefty. I thought things could get better without a socialist political revolution. I also liked helping people on a personal basis which was regarded as a sign of faulty reasoning – you had to change the world, during which time it was allowable to have an appreciating house on the waterfront in Balmain and a sportscar but to consider donating to famine relief or orphanages in Africa was a bourgeois fantasy. Charity in general was a dirty word and putting yourself out for others a signal of time lost to the greater political cause.

Since the doomsaying turned green, it has got even worse.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

20 Jan 13 at 10:11 pm
So the assumption is that a large number of these women have the bodies attractive enough tobe strippers?

I’m betting against that.

If our school assembly is any guide, about 1 in 100 might cut the mustard. Unless you like having a fatty boom-ba sit on your face.

boy on a bike

20 Jan 13 at 10:20 pm
Jump – ‘he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother’.

Tintarella – that caring is love, and there can never be ‘enough of that’.

You make me want to be a better person than I am, and that is no bad thing.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

20 Jan 13 at 10:22 pm
Watch and wait for the gun-owner to leave the house, break in, crack open their gun safe or just steal the whole danged thing, and there you go.

It’s already happened to at least two families on the list.

Not particularly good gun safes then are they? Which brings me back to the point that criminals often get their guns by stealing them from people who legally own guns. The more people who legally own guns, the easier it is for criminals to get their hands on them. In NRA utopia where every non felon owns a gun, a criminal doesn’t need to look at a map to work out which house to break into steal a gun, most of them would have one there waiting for them.

Actually, thinking about it, I think it’s our right to see a map of everyone who is on SSRI antidepressants.

Being on an SSRI won’t make it easier for them to kill you or commit mass murder – it’d probably make it harder. Neither will being on welfare. Having access to a gun will.

Chris

20 Jan 13 at 10:25 pm
Vegans are demented.

The act of almost unthinkable violence in a public place will no doubt cause horror and revulsion among passers-by and curious onlookers unlucky enough to witness the event.

The demonstration will last just ten minutes but Becky, 34, hopes it will have resonance for far longer. She is a vegan – and one of a growing number of animal rights activists who are resorting to extreme tactics to make their views known.

I put it down to low cholesterol, a compound that is essential for proper functioning of the neurones.

Eddystone

20 Jan 13 at 10:34 pm
Not particularly good gun safes then are they?

So I bet you also argue that girls who are raped were “asking for it” if they did not dress “protectively” enough?

I mean, cat meat, bro. CAT MEAT.

Askin’ for it. Totes.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 10:39 pm
Which brings me back to the point that criminals often get their guns by stealing them from people who legally own guns. The more people who legally own guns, the easier it is for criminals to get their hands on them.

Patients with legal prescription narcotics in the home are a large source of prescription narcotics onto the black market – and prescription narcotics kill more Americans than guns do.

So the trick to stopping prescription narcotic deaths is OBVIOUSLY to publish maps showing which houses have the in their medicine cabinet. Because a lot of those black market prescription narcotics were stolen from legal script holders. So therefore publishing a MAP showing the way to every script holder’s house is a smart move.

Oh, wait – you’re a prohibitionist, yes? So the best way to stop prescription narcotic deaths – which, again kill more Americans than guns – is to just ban them outright, across the board, for everyone.

Punish law-abiding citizens for the illegal activities of criminals. Because that’ll work.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 10:50 pm
CL – for three years in my first marriage I looked after my two children under three in a mix and match of part-time work and childcare – as many women do due to various circumstances. For the luckier ones, the men help out too.

When I then became a single mum I had to cope somehow – and child-care helped enormously, again in a mix and match patchwork fashion, with as much part-time as I could afford to luxuriate in – which wasn’t much.

It was better than letting the state be my children’s provider. And mine.

Don’t be too hard on Australian women. I think many, many women try to stay home with their babies as long as they possibly can. Handing over a tiny baby to someone else is heartbreaking and not readily done, nor indeed placing in care a toddler.
I used Family Day Care, friends, relatives (the saner ones), Child Care Centres, and sticking them in the corner of my office with some crayons. The old lady next door became invaluable, as well as the slatternly woman across the road, who found me on the verandah howling when he first left and harshly told me the realities: ‘you’re not the first woman to be left holding babies, and you won’t be the last’. She pulled me out of self-pity and offered real help – ‘let me take the kids for a while’. The kind people up the road cued into the drama and turned up regularly with a casserole for a few weeks.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

20 Jan 13 at 10:52 pm
the slatternly woman across the road

Oh no! Your childen were subjected to passive smoking?

Witch!

Steve of Ferny Hills

20 Jan 13 at 11:19 pm
pro-choice

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 11:23 pm
Nicole Kidman, actor, promotes Swisse vitamins and mineral supplements (bringing Ellen and 400 of her audience members to Aus).

Antonia Kidman, famous for being Nicole’s sister, promotes Nature’s Way.

LOL

I thought things were bad when a popular television chef was spruiking for Swisse, but this is hilarious.

kae

20 Jan 13 at 11:28 pm
Don’t be too hard on Australian women.

No, I think we ought to be. They are not ‘entitled’ to 5 or 6 billion dollars in free money from taxpayers to look after their children. Hard cases make bad law and even worse cultural standards. We were told that sisters were doin’ it for themselves but the truth is they’re not. What’s more, they can’t. The only way the fantasy of ‘workplace gender equality’ can be putatively attained is for the Treasury to bankroll child-rearing – which is a sinister and deplorable development.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 11:30 pm
So the trick to stopping prescription narcotic deaths is OBVIOUSLY to publish maps showing which houses have the in their medicine cabinet.

Apart from the fact that prescription narcotics deaths where they occur nearly always result in the death of the person using them rather than the people the user doesn’t like, I’ll settle for regulating guns as strongly as they do prescription narcotics. Track sales by licensed dealers and only to those who can prove to the authorities that they have a real need for them. And when that need no longer exists they will not be issued any more. No private sales legal of course.

Chris

20 Jan 13 at 11:32 pm
Good God.

Michelle Obama’s new hairdo.

C.L.

20 Jan 13 at 11:40 pm
Track sales by licensed dealers and only to those who can prove to the authorities that they have a real need for them.

Yes, that’s what the British were all about. The “authorities” in that case decided that there was no “need” for any common citizen to bear arms. That bought them a war.

Sorry, but if you want to repeal the Second Amendment there is a process for that.

sdog

20 Jan 13 at 11:45 pm
No, I think we ought to be. They are not ‘entitled’ to 5 or 6 billion dollars in free money from taxpayers to look after their children. Hard cases make bad law and even worse cultural standards. We were told that sisters were doin’ it for themselves but the truth is they’re not. What’s more, they can’t. The only way the fantasy of ‘workplace gender equality’ can be putatively attained is for the Treasury to bankroll child-rearing – which is a sinister and deplorable development

But Monsignor, how will the abandoned wives feed their babies if they cannot work?

Abu Chowdah

20 Jan 13 at 11:48 pm
Michelle Obama’s new hairdo.

Edgey.

Steve of Ferny Hills

20 Jan 13 at 11:53 pm
She looks like Chewbacca’s wife.

Gab

20 Jan 13 at 11:54 pm
Joe Biden’s tall tale…

He told a mayor’s conference that he heard the gunshots from the 2006 Amish school shooting while playing golf a quarter mile away. Turns out there’s no course there…not even close.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 12:10 am
Yes, that’s what the British were all about. The “authorities” in that case decided that there was no “need” for any common citizen to bear arms. That bought them a war.

I’m no expert in US history, but gun control is not something that is often quoted as a cause of the war of independence.

Sorry, but if you want to repeal the Second Amendment there is a process for that.

On that point we agree – or the supreme court could re-interpret it again.

But as I have mentioned here in the past I don’t think gun control in the US is a magic bullet for the short to medium term. The laws have been so lax for so long there’s simply too many guns out in the public already and too many hardliners afraid of the government who will refuse to cooperate. But they are a good example to Australia and the rest of the world what not to do, and if you do how hard it can be to get back to a reasonable situation again.

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 12:11 am
“Michelle Obama’s new hairdo.”

I don’t like her. She’s rancorous.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

21 Jan 13 at 12:13 am
But Monsignor, how will the abandoned wives feed their babies if they cannot work?

Well, Senator Rhiannon – the same way they always did. Family, friends and – failing that – private charitable organisations. But you’re falling for the lefty catastrophist chicanery of accepting that childcare centres exist to cater for women on skid row. They service women who are not going to starve and nor will their children. This is simply another phony ‘entitlement’ of the kind that has bankrupted the entire Western economy.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:13 am
But Monsignor, how will the abandoned wives feed their babies if they cannot work?

They won’t be able to properly but then he gets to criticise single parents for not looking after their children properly and gloat over how much better families with a mum and dad are for the children (even if dad is using mum as a punching bag).

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 12:15 am
I’m no expert in US history, but gun control is not something that is often quoted as a cause of the war of independence.

“Anyone familiar with an accurate telling of the political truths leading up to the events of mid-April, 1775 in small towns and villages west of Boston knows that while the Colonials and their British masters were at loggerheads for the better part of a decade over a number of issues including taxation and liberty, the immediate and proximate trigger of the first American Revolutionary war was an attempt by General Thomas Gage to disarm the Colonists.”

Time to read up on the Powder Alarm, child.

sdog

21 Jan 13 at 12:19 am
Then you pay for them Chris, you moron. Even if the mother is a victim of violence ( and men are too on an increasing scale) dad’s wages can be garnished or friends and family.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 12:20 am
Long predicted – here they come…

Smug drinkers who laughed at the harrassment of smokers: you’re next.

That’s how they roll.

They also want to “regulate the food supply.”

Health curbs on alcohol mooted.

HEALTH activists are seeking public funds to lay the groundwork for bans on alcohol advertising, minimum pricing of alcoholic drinks, restrictions on certain foods and to push the case that alcohol causes cancer.

A freedom of information document reveals the Australian National Preventive Health Agency was approached for grants last year to fund projects that examined “What is the public support for regulating the food supply”, “Understanding and engaging community and policymaker support for alcohol supply control policies and practices”, and “Preparing the public interest case for minimum pricing of alcohol”, among others…

Tim Wilson, a policy director at the Institute of Public Affairs think tank, who lodged the request, said the list betrayed a bias towards taxing and regulating away personal choice rather than promoting responsible behaviour.

“Public health activists seem intent on reinventing every policy used against smoking to now target food and alcohol choices because they can casually be linked to cancer,” he said.

“When activists want to test the public’s preparedness for wartime rationing policies, you’ve got to wonder whether they understand that we live in a free society that respects individual choice.”

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:22 am
We were told that sisters were doin’ it for themselves but the truth is they’re not.

Women who demand money from others’ pay packets to foot the bill for their child-rearing choices would be more honest if they’d just do a Blanche Dubois and smile graciously whilst admitting, “I’ve always depended on the kindness of strangers.”

sdog

21 Jan 13 at 12:25 am
Michelle Obama’s new hairdo.

I don’t like her. She’s rancorous.

She’d scare a dog out of a butcher’s shop, let’s be honest.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:27 am
and gloat over how much better families with a mum and dad are for the children (even if dad is using mum as a punching bag).

Typically yes. The latter is atypical. But hey, let’s structure our approach and our society around the idea that the reverse is true, that families are typically hotbeds of abuse and that children of single parents typically outperform!

FFS, can we at least discuss reality instead of arguing over whose fantasy is more compelling???

wreckage

21 Jan 13 at 12:32 am
“new do”

My grandma always said “If you can’t say anything nice…”

kae

21 Jan 13 at 12:33 am
… how much better families with a mum and dad are for the children (even if dad is using mum as a punching bag).

Notice how Chris had to add a parenthetical lie to derail what would otherwise be axiomatic? To wit, how much better families with a mum and dad are for the children. Which is, of course, true.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:37 am
New do?

AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

kae

21 Jan 13 at 12:39 am
The act of almost unthinkable violence in a public place will no doubt cause horror and revulsion among passers-by and curious onlookers unlucky enough to witness the event
Even though the subject is a “volunteer” (who has to be held down and restrained?), surely the perpetrator would be up for unlawful assault charges? It’d be different if the act was committed in private between consenting adults but in public different rules are in play.

Cold-Hands

21 Jan 13 at 12:55 am
“Michelle Obama’s new hairdo.”

I don’t like her. She’s rancorous.

That’s a bit harsh. More like a wookie* than a rancor.

*Mallatobuck, wife of Chewbacca, from the Star Wars Holiday Special.

Cold-Hands

21 Jan 13 at 1:03 am
For Viking aficionado Elizabeth:

Archaeologists Find Clues to Viking Mystery.

For years, researchers have puzzled over why Viking descendents abandoned Greenland in the late 15th century. But archaeologists now believe that economic and identity issues, rather than starvation and disease, drove them back to their ancestral homes.

On Sept. 14, 1408, Thorstein Olafsson and Sigrid Björnsdottir were married. The ceremony took place in a church on Hvalsey Fjord in Greenland that was only five meters (about 16 feet) tall.

It must have been difficult for the bride and groom to recognize each other in the dim light of the church. The milky light of late summer could only enter the turf-roofed church through an arched window on the east side and a few openings resembling arrow slits. After the ceremony, the guests fortified themselves with seal meat.

The marriage of the Icelander and the girl from Greenland was one of the last raucous festivals in the far northern Viking colony. It all ended soon afterwards, when the last oil lamps went out in the Nordic settlements in Greenland.

Read on…

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 1:35 am
Typically yes. The latter is atypical. But hey, let’s structure our approach and our society around the idea that the reverse is true, that families are typically hotbeds of abuse and that children of single parents typically outperform!

FFS, can we at least discuss reality instead of arguing over whose fantasy is more compelling???

I don’t think you should structure your society around exceptions, but you do take it into account. And don’t let people who need help starve waiting for private charity which may or may not actually appear. Or have abused men or women stay with their spouse because they don’t think any help will be available and would rather endure ongoing harm to themselves rather than risk their children go hungry.

Then you pay for them Chris, you moron. Even if the mother is a victim of violence ( and men are too on an increasing scale) dad’s wages can be garnished or friends and family.

Dad’s (or increasingly Mum’s) wages being garnished is the first response and centrelink take that income into account even if the former spouse doesn’t actually cough up the money. Friends and family – that’s great if you are fortunate enough to have friends and family who are capable of helping you – mix in wealthy circles and you probably do. Otherwise without public help you’re in the roulette of private charity which may or may not be around.

The main problem is that its not just about the mother or father, but the child. You can either help them while they’re growing up – including food, clothing and an education – or you’ll end up paying for them when they end up as an adult with poor health and skills on welfare or in prison (which is even more expensive).

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 1:36 am
Sorry for the closing quote #fail above….

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 1:37 am
Well, Senator Rhiannon – the same way they always did. Family, friends and – failing that – private charitable organisations. But you’re falling for the lefty catastrophist chicanery of accepting that childcare centres exist to cater for women on skid row. They service women who are not going to starve and nor will their children. This is simply another phony ‘entitlement’ of the kind that has bankrupted the entire Western economy.

No, I’m not. I just read Lizzie’s post and wondered how we can change society without adversely impacting on good people, like Lizzie, having to deal with circumstances they never thought might happen to them.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 1:42 am
Attorney-General Nicola Roxon says the government will take on board any recommendations from the Senate inquiry but also says there has been a “vicious” campaign aimed at rolling back existing protections.

Ah, the old emotive “vicious” is conveniently employed to defend von Roxon’s murdering of free speech. What this totalitarian cur is referring to is the people and organisations that have spoken out against von Roxon’s utopian plan to make it unlawful to offend and insult.

Prediction: von Roxon will drag out the old standby “death threats”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/roxons-laws-can-ensnare-everyone/story-fn59niix-1226557768930

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 1:43 am
And don’t let people who need help starve waiting for private charity which may or may not actually appear.

Note again the dishonesty and hysteria.

For without them, there is no argument.

Nobody is going to “starve.”

Governments – not private charities – have allowed Aborigines to live like dogs and bash women, for decades. The left absolutely opposed John Howard’s Intervention to put a stop to it. Funny how they were non-statists on that occasion.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 1:47 am
Yeah, I saw that article, Gab.

Wow. We have a government that wants to jail people for causing “offence.”

And the David Marr left, of course, is perfectly cool with that.

They understand – wink wink – that the law is wholly intended to get conservatives.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 2:04 am
If you were a public figure this statement would be construed as an inference that comparatively liberal attitudes to sex make rape not so bad.

Adrien, not quite. Comparatively liberal attitudes to sex make it difficult to distinguish sexual assault/ rape from common/ aggravated assault or battery. Either can more or less bad but what makes them different given contemporary attitudes to pornography, prostitution, promiscuity, and so on?

Rape is a particularly brutal form of assault or battery. I suppose I can’t fully imagine what it was like for a woman,

John Mc, this sort of proves my point. Contemporary liberal attitudes tend towards thinking it is different in degree but not in kind. The testimony of those who have been sexually assaulted or raped indicates the latter. They feel degraded, humiliated, violated, and the like. The only other conduct that would illicit similar experiences would be torture.

dover_beach

21 Jan 13 at 3:11 am
The only other conduct that would illicit similar experiences would be torture.

No there are other things, such as having yourself in a pornographic video or just being shown naked to the world without your permission and especially for a female.

kelly liddle

21 Jan 13 at 3:22 am
Dad’s (or increasingly Mum’s) wages being garnished is the first response and centrelink take that income into account even if the former spouse doesn’t actually cough up the money.

For the most part, the father’s income is garnished before he sees it by the ATO so he doesn’t get a choice whether to cough up or not.

Friends and family – that’s great if you are fortunate enough to have friends and family who are capable of helping you – mix in wealthy circles and you probably do.

Honestly. My grandma, as a widow, managed to finish raising 3 children in Alexandria in the 40s and 50s with the help of family and friends; and no, she did not mix in wealthy circles. The idea that friends and family cannot help single mothers with children now is just fantastical.

The main problem is that its not just about the mother or father, but the child.

If only this were the case with liberals.

dover_beach

21 Jan 13 at 3:24 am
No there are other things, such as having yourself in a pornographic video or just being shown naked to the world without your permission and especially for a female.

Kelly, and that would for the same reasons that sexual assault/ rape is different from common/ aggravated assault/ battery; they are related to sex and intimacy.

dover_beach

21 Jan 13 at 3:47 am
Hahaha.

Mr. Morsi’s remarks that Jews are “bloodsuckers” and “descendants of apes and pigs” and that Egyptian children must be “breastfed hatred” for them were ”taken out of context.”

Steyn, via Blair.

sdog

21 Jan 13 at 3:50 am
Hey I have been listening to some Thai music and just made me think of something. In Thai language there is a word for boss “Joe Nai” , my girl friend told me that that only applies to some boss who can sack someone and does not apply to any government boss because they can’t sack anyone (she actually works in the government). I like this idea and think we should have words for boss and real boss (our current PM being Labor would not be a Joe Nai because the real bosses are somewhere behind the scene).

kelly liddle

21 Jan 13 at 4:10 am
The old lady next door became invaluable, as well as the slatternly woman across the road, who found me on the verandah howling when he first left and harshly told me the realities: ‘you’re not the first woman to be left holding babies, and you won’t be the last’

I know quite a few guys who have bailed when the young ones come along. It’s immature, self-centered and mean behaviour. It’s never a good time to abandon wife and kids, particularly to chase after other tail, but when they’re still babies or toddlers is woeful. WHat’s more, you’re going to miss out on some special years and your kid is unlikely to ever, really, truly forgive you for it. I accept that some relationships are not worth pursuing over the long term, but this should be dealt with before the pecker gets to work, not after. And even then, a lot of the causes of breakups is the stressful life changes caused by new babies. No more partying, reduced income, new mum perhaps depressed and unhealthy. Man up and deal with it, and get through the rough patches. Because kids are worth it.

brc

21 Jan 13 at 6:24 am
80% of the relationship failures I personally know of came about because ” mummy fell in love with a nicer man, that was more caring”
The other 20% was because ” daddy the arsehole couldn’t keep his dick out of a slut.
Result of survey:
Women always victim.
Men always arsehole.

jumpnmcar

21 Jan 13 at 6:44 am
50% of relationship failures is over $.

The other 50% of relationship failures is over 2 people who can no longer stand living together.

The rest is just BS window dressing.

pete m

21 Jan 13 at 6:56 am
Fair comment, brc. Apart from the kids, who can be a mixed bunch, there’s the maturing of the marriage relationship, the deepening of a longterm frienship which can only happen with time and fuller appreciation of each other.
And hopefully we go on learning from each other.

Blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 6:56 am
The majority of divorce filings in Australia and the US are instigated by women.

In the cases where men leave, maybe they’ve taken to heart the decades of feminazis railing that men are unnecessary and useless, and that their kids will be just fine (if not better off! how many MSM-hyped “studies” have we seen about how awesome single mums are and how single mum households are just as good for kiddies as “old fashioned” two-parent homes) without them?

After all, the State is so keen to stake its place as Universal Baby Daddy, and women are so adamant that they don’t need men in order to “have it all”, where is the societal and personal moral imperative to stay and be a responsible father, husband and provider (can we even use that term anymore, “provider”, or is it MISOGYNIST!!!) now?

You can’t wage a decades-long War on Men and not expect any blowback.

sdog

21 Jan 13 at 7:05 am
I used Family Day Care, friends, relatives (the saner ones), Child Care Centres, and sticking them in the corner of my office with some crayons. The old lady next door became invaluable, as well as the slatternly woman across the road, who found me on the verandah howling when he first left and harshly told me the realities: ‘you’re not the first woman to be left holding babies, and you won’t be the last’. She pulled me out of self-pity and offered real help – ‘let me take the kids for a while’. The kind people up the road cued into the drama and turned up regularly with a casserole for a few weeks.

Amen, Lizzie. I can relate to all that, and especially with respect to how we perceive people that we don’t necessarily know in our neighbourhood.

It’s also wonderful how the people around us step up out of the blue with assistance when we least expect it.

I wonder where the bleeding heart feminists were in all this?

nilk

21 Jan 13 at 7:12 am
Comparatively liberal attitudes to sex make it difficult to distinguish sexual assault/ rape from common/ aggravated assault or battery. Either can more or less bad but what makes them different given contemporary attitudes to pornography, prostitution, promiscuity, and so on?

Choice.

Just because a woman has a rape fantasy doesn’t mean she wants to be sconned and then dragged down an alley way.

The same as a clump of cells becomes a baby because the mother wants it. Otherwise it’s okay to abort.

nilk

21 Jan 13 at 7:22 am
I know quite a few guys who have bailed when the young ones come along. It’s immature, self-centered and mean behaviour.

Maybe they read the New York Times:

MEN: WHO NEEDS THEM?

With expanding reproductive choices, we can expect to see more women choose to reproduce without men entirely. Fortunately, the data for children raised by only females is encouraging. As the Princeton sociologist Sara S. McLanahan has shown, poverty is what hurts children, not the number or gender of parents.

That’s good, since women are both necessary and sufficient for reproduction, and men are neither. From the production of the first cell (egg) to the development of the fetus and the birth and breast-feeding of the child, fathers can be absent. They can be at work, at home, in prison or at war, living or dead. …

Meanwhile women live longer, are healthier and are far less likely to commit a violent offense. If men were cars, who would buy the model that doesn’t last as long, is given to lethal incidents and ends up impounded more often?

Fathers are useless – if not worse than useless – and women and children actually get on better without them. With narratives like that, can you be surprised if some young men bail?

sdog

21 Jan 13 at 7:43 am
Farmers and celebrities now realize they were all dudded by animal activist organization PETA, who used blackmail tactics to enlist retailers Abercrombie & Fitch, Country Road, and others, to pressure farmers into alternative, expensive and ultimately less efficacious ways to prevent fly strike.
This is how the world works when PC activists are supported by activist media to warp policy. It is happening in too many areas, and will need to be dealt with in a very non-pc way at some point. It is part of the overall Green/Left/Frootloop anti-industry of any sort push.

blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 8:13 am
Demonstrating the official namesign for “Kevin Rudd” in ASL.

sdog

21 Jan 13 at 8:13 am
This is how the world works when PC activists are supported by activist media to warp policy. It is happening in too many areas, and will need to be dealt with in a very non-pc way at some point.

Check out the papers today. Rather than condemning the over-reach of unelected government agencies / big Green funded non-profits, they wave through their plans to regulate what most people want the indivdual right to control & regulate:

HEALTH activists are seeking public funds to lay the groundwork for bans on alcohol advertising, minimum pricing of alcoholic drinks, restrictions on certain foods and to push the case that alcohol causes cancer.

(CL’s link @ 12:22am)

Token

21 Jan 13 at 8:21 am
At the time the newspaper published the information it wasn’t illegal to do so. Has anyone at the newspaper been prosecuted for breaking the law?

Chris, we get it you are happy for the names and addresses of all law enforcement officers and judges to be published.

Watch this blow out into a tragedy. Criminals have started using the list. In the past Cosa Nostra used such lists to target judges & law officers in the past, and they had ethics & rules by comparison to todays crime syndicates.

Have crazy stalkers been looking to find families that relocated to get away from a violent partner? Just check the list as it is likely they bought a gun.

You have to be amoral and a extremist to think this is a good idea, but then again, Chris you have admitted you are a big fan of the ALP/Green legislation that has lead to 1000+ deaths at sea, so no surprises there.

Token

21 Jan 13 at 8:37 am
With expanding reproductive choices, we can expect to see more women choose to reproduce without men entirely. Fortunately, the data for children raised by only females is encouraging. As the Princeton sociologist Sara S. McLanahan has shown, poverty is what hurts children, not the number or gender of parents.

Of cause the sociologist conveniently ignores how the largest population of children living in poverty are living in woman only single parent families.

Token

21 Jan 13 at 8:56 am
I’ve commented at length about the single parenthood/state as parent/family kangaroo court shemozzle on several occasions here.

There has been an actual war on men over the last four or so decades. The main pernicious outcome has been the skyrocketing cohort of single mothers (largely dependent on the state) and the inevitable appalling outcomes for the children unfortunate enough to have been born into these failed settings. The cost to society is unquantifiable.

One of the major agents of this destruction of the family unit has been the fucking family kangaroo court. I cannot state strongly enough how utterly furious I am about both this kangaroo court’s existence and the trail of destruction it has left in its wake.

Some of the actual family kangaroo court scenarios I could recount would make peoples’ hair curl.

I have had to financially assist friends who have been literally bankrupted by the fucking family kangaroo court. The denial of justice they have suffered is an absolute outrage. There is no excuse whatsoever, for this situation to be allowed to continue.

Enough.

The family kangaroo court must be abolished.

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 9:05 am
On a lighter note:

Although nearly 800 people pledged to attend on the Facebook event page about 100 showed up.

The ‘people’ were correctly referred to here yesterday as:

Barking betty Balmain mia freedman luvvie types

They were ‘protesting’ about a TV idiot making comments about wimmenses breastfeeding babieses.

This country is a fucking joke.

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 9:17 am
oops – linkie…

Warning: Footage of aforementioned TV idiot (and ‘protesters’).

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 9:18 am
Willful retardation at it’s finest.
Watch this video on the media and gun control. (only 4 mins)

And reward youself with the snake chase video straight after. Very funny.

Rudiau

21 Jan 13 at 9:27 am
No, I’m not. I just read Lizzie’s post and wondered how we can change society without adversely impacting on good people, like Lizzie, having to deal with circumstances they never thought might happen to them

Nobody here wants the vulnerable abandoned woman with kids to be left without support at the time when they are most vulnerable. We all want support to be provided.

What we want is a system where the woman does not stay on a support system forever and has no incentive to change her situation.

What have the found with the food stamp/voucher system in the US:

…With unemployment falling modestly in the last couple of years, food stamps have exploded by 7.2 million recipients. That’s 10,000 per day, according to Ohio University professor Richard Vedder, even in an expanding economy. Social Security disability payments also have exploded. So have long-term, extended-unemployment benefits.

It’s this simple: If you pay people not to work, they won’t work. And if they won’t work, the economy won’t grow.

Then we can talk about government incentives for families to split like rent assistance which pays a 2 partners more than a family more if they split up and the court system which finds against the father as its default setting.

Token

21 Jan 13 at 9:28 am
Paul Sheehan’s article today in the SMH (lucky they still have someone worth reading) illustrates where we’re headed – we’ll be bound and gagged while those the left luvvies snuggle up to have free range to make mischief.
The story of Gert Wilders, and the crap the local organiser has had to go through, is truly a teaching one.

blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 9:35 am
At the time the newspaper published the information it wasn’t illegal to do so. Has anyone at the newspaper been prosecuted for breaking the law?

Yes, yes, the people have a right to know. It’s also not illegal to publish other public information such as who is registered for entitlements such as Food Stamps. So why not an interesting, new map every month? The reasons for not publishing are many but generally stem from a respect for privacy and a desire not to stigmatise.

This exception is all the more glaring and nakedly partisan for that.

Derp

21 Jan 13 at 10:15 am
It’s this simple: If you pay people not to work, they won’t work. And if they won’t work, the economy won’t grow.

Ask any Keynesian, demand is what makes the economy grow. Nobody needs supply. Productivity is a bad thing, remember?

Tel

21 Jan 13 at 10:28 am
I wonder where the bleeding heart feminists were in all this?

hahaha Nilk. In bed with my husband (some of them literally) at the time!! They took the New York Times view of it all.

In my own case the ex’s shocked and helpful ageing parents rallied to pressure him to come good with some maintenance once he was employed again, and thankfully Rabz, we avoided the whole court disasters and had a fairly civilised divorce, where our children came first as they have ever since.

Hard cases make bad law and even worse cultural standards.

I agree here with CL. The cultural attitudes of the old-style working class woman over the road were the right ones. He was a louse and I had to cope with it. Which I did, believing that good men (like her man) could still be found (a surprising one turned up for me in the end). Intact families is the cultural standard I would like to encourage in law and in custom. But – with good short-term financial help (if required) and understanding support (very important – why I posted on this) when marriages breakdown. Plain old human failings (and ideological stupidities or, sadly, illness and death) ensure an end will inevitably happen to some marriages where young children are involved.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

21 Jan 13 at 10:45 am
With expanding reproductive choices, we can expect to see more women choose to reproduce without men entirely. Fortunately, the data for children raised by only females is encouraging.

So women won’t object if all men are legislatively freed from being taxed to pay for IVF, ‘childcare’ centres and maternity wards.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 11:13 am
Wow, Jackie Chan really does enjoy his role as cheerleader for a brutal totalistarian state.

Token

21 Jan 13 at 11:22 am
I wonder if Hitler started out playing Civilization…
I see him more as a “Risk” man, myself.

Cold-Hands

21 Jan 13 at 11:22 am
Slippery slope? What slippery slope?

Scientist seeks ‘adventurous female’ to give birth to Neanderthal.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 11:26 am
Wow, Jackie Chan really does enjoy his role as cheerleader for a brutal totalistarian state.

Ditto Zhang Yimou, whose films since his return to the mainland (such as Hero, or his most recent The Flowers of War) show a strong nationalistic vein that support the current regime.

Cold-Hands

21 Jan 13 at 11:32 am
Tim Blair: The Hello Kitty range of assault weapons that landed a 5-year-old girl in hot soapy water and saw her socially isolated as punishment.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 11:34 am
Gab, Tim missed this one, which would have justified all the hoo-ha if it was the ‘weapon’ involved.

Cold-Hands

21 Jan 13 at 11:43 am
Went to my daughters graduation last night. Very proud moment.

Anyway as they do they gave out phd’s first. One was awarded for “The effects on a family of returning a dog to the pound.” (Bigger words used). FFS if you are human it sucks and you feel guilt, if you are sub human you don’t give a shit. Arise Dr Woolfe.

Woolfe

21 Jan 13 at 11:43 am
She looks a bit older that five, CH.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 11:45 am
The Hello Kitty range of assault weapons that landed a 5-year-old girl in hot soapy water and saw her socially isolated as punishment.

Yes Gab, but fascist phallus obsessed gun wankers who want to kill everybody.

Because shut up.

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 11:57 am
While gillard was at home doing her best Madame DeFarge on Saturday night, Abbott was again deployed to fight fires in the Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 12:00 pm
Speaking of kitty cats…

Holly The Cat’s 200-Mile Trek Home Leaves Scientists Guessing.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:06 pm
Backbencher Kevin Rudd has quite a diverse portfolio. After jetting around the world in 2012 delivering lectures on China’s foreign policy priorities, frequent flyer Kev will again be spreading those CO2 molecules as he jets out for Davos tomorrow to chair several sessions for the World Economic Forum.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 12:08 pm
Thanks for the link to the Viking story on the ABC site, CL. Interesting that they allow the issue of ‘climate change’ to be mentioned via this article, but the BBC program slid over that in the discussion of Greenland, merely mentioning ‘changes’.

Fairly clearly, climatic changes and the end of ‘medieval warming’ (which AGW fans like to ignore) had made things difficult for Europeans in Greenland. I have read a report of one lonely skeleton found, of a young European man, whose steel knife had become a thin shred due to constant sharpening – one of those who stayed behind and got ice-locked? Ships could no longer get in, and no longer came anyway due to economic changes in Europe. Also, the Vikings were very disparaging of the Scralings – the Eskimos – and from this fact, let alone archaeological findings – we could deduce they wouldn’t have wanted to stay and join their ways.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

21 Jan 13 at 12:15 pm
800 women expected to protest against Koch’s terrible terrible breastfeeding remark…

According to the ABC, 50 front up. According to The Aged, it is 100. Hmmm….perhaps the Aged wasn’t counting heads…

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 12:21 pm
LOL.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:23 pm
After jetting around the world in 2012 delivering lectures on China’s foreign policy priorities, frequent flyer Kev will again be spreading those CO2 molecules as he jets out for Davos tomorrow to chair several sessions for the World Economic Forum.

As Bolta notes, give Gillard 5 years and she will finally get around to cover the same ground Rudd, but with a lot more hyperbowl.

So how does Gillard explain why she now needs to do over exactly the same ground covered so often before by Rudd, long touted by Labor as its true China expert?

Sources familiar with the document described it as a “much more substantial” contribution than then prime minister Kevin Rudd’s 2008 national security statement to parliament, which was criticised for being too vague and wide-ranging and was hastily rewritten in the lead-up to its delivery.

“Much more substantial”? From Gillard? Hmm.

It’s interesting that Labor decides now to disparage the national security statement presented by its own leader less than five years ago. That “vague” and “hastily rewritten” document addressing vital security issues actually represented the position of a government whose deputy leader then was … Julia Gillard.

Still, she does now promise something better. But what is this “better”?:

The Australian understands Ms Gillard’s statement will contain no new policy initiatives or resource commitments. Instead, the document focuses on Australia’s strategic environment – in particular, the growing economic, political and military clout of China.

“The remarkable growth and opportunity we see in Asia could not have happened without an environment of relative peace and stability,” Ms Gillard will tell her audience. “Continuing and deepening that atmosphere of relative peace and stability is at the forefront of Australia’s national security agenda. Indeed, nothing is more important in Australia’s security outlook.”

Wow. That’s “better”?

Token

21 Jan 13 at 12:25 pm
Choice.

Nilk, no, you’ve missed my point. I’m not asking what makes rape different from promiscuity, prostitution, and so on, but from common or aggravated assault given contemporary liberal attitudes to sex. It can’t be “choice” because no one chooses to be assaulted either.

dover_beach

21 Jan 13 at 12:33 pm
The Prime Minister will use her first important speech of the election year – to the Australian National University’s National Security College in Canberra on Wednesday – to outline Australia’s national security objectives, actions and priorities over the next five years.

Who else has five year plans?

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 12:41 pm
Governing by announcing.

It’s all this stupid, mendacious woman ever does.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:44 pm
what makes rape different from promiscuity, prostitution, and so on

Because it happens against one’s will on the inside and most private parts of your body.

Helen Armstrong

21 Jan 13 at 12:46 pm
News you can use:

Beer science: How to keep coldies cooler, longer.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:55 pm
Really good interview with Geert Wilders over at Bolt’s (Hannity does the honours). He’s really very intelligent and reasonable. Certainly, he’s welcome in this country.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 12:58 pm
… Rudd, long touted by Labor as its true China expert?

Just as emerson is labore’s true interpretive dance expert (as opposed to lurch, who’s clearly an imposter)…

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 1:07 pm
CL, how long before stubby holders will be banned from carrying advertising, such as a brewery?

nic

21 Jan 13 at 1:09 pm
Wait, wait.

This Aussie had a GUN?

But John Howard bought them ‘back’ and banished them to gun safes.

I don’t understand.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on climate bet, but worth -here,

Continuing on the Global Warming and pollution carbon dioxide theme, along with Europe’s fabulous carbon di-oxide mitigation – green power everywhere, Donna has this report from der spiegal. Europeans are stealing wood to burn wood for warmth as the cost of power escalates.

Greeks are chopping trees down in parks – how’s that greenies? Wood stoves have a resurgence in popularity and old people are three times more likely to die in cold as in hot.

Helen Armstrong

21 Jan 13 at 1:22 pm
These Americans have guns too!

Oklahoma Full Auto Shoot and Trade Show.

Presented by Oklahoma’s answer to Michelle Grattan, Alison Haislip.

God bless America.

Eddystone

21 Jan 13 at 1:40 pm
Behold the Europe the left has created. Broke, Muslim, totalitarian, bio-medically Hitlerian, demographically dying and – now – people returning to the woods for fuel.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 1:42 pm
Governing by announcing.

It’s all this stupid, mendacious woman ever does.

CL it’s the NSW disease becoming manifest — government by media release for 16 years and now the reality bites, rotting bridges, rolling stock falling apart, the bastards did nothing but scheme, graft, and thieve.

Tintarella di Luna

21 Jan 13 at 1:43 pm
Steyn on the TSA – absolute gold:

A generation or two hence, the last al-Qaeda member will die of old age in a Yemeni old folks’ home, but cowed, compliant Americans will still be shuffling shoeless through ever more decrepit airports waiting for the obergropinfuhrer to determine whether the pumpkin mix in their Thanksgiving pie is sufficiently soft to be confiscated as an illegal liquid.

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 1:45 pm
Bed-wetting gunliars pretend you can buy these over the internet in the US.

AR15 conversion on auto m16 belt fed Valkyrie Armament

Eddystone

21 Jan 13 at 1:46 pm
For me, the whole TSA thing was the point of no return vis-a-vis respecting this once fiercely freedom-loving country. The people that booted the English off their land now sheepishly allow the Federal government to digitally rape them, their children and their grandparents at airports.

That’s when all semblance of “America” flatlined.

Dead.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 1:59 pm
As Steyn has previously said, when Americans do things they have to do it big, so when they embraced big government they were always going to have the biggest and baddest of anyone.

Infidel Tiger

21 Jan 13 at 2:07 pm
The Australian’s Mumble still “moist for Malcolm“. At least he is consistent. Comments still open for a change too.

H B Bear

21 Jan 13 at 2:10 pm
David Koch terrified of lactating women, turns to guns for protection:

Police on standby as angry women prepare to march on David Koch.

Yes, you read that right.

Channel 7 has called in the police to handle bossomy young mums with their bubs.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 2:14 pm
Anyone who thinks their little bit of liberty that is still on offer is not worth hanging onto real hard, you just have to look at what goes on in the UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/9813101/Norways-fax-democracy-is-nothing-for-Britain-to-fear.html

Scroll down to the heading, Baby escapes, entire family arrested — freaking unbelievable.

Tel

21 Jan 13 at 2:14 pm
handle bossomy young mums

So to speak.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 2:22 pm
The Australian’s Mumble still “moist for Malcolm“. At least he is consistent. Comments still open for a change too.

How desperate is he getting for blog topics?

Why doesn’t he post less with worthwhile topics (like Chris Kenny & Henry Ergas) instead of resorting to trolling conservatives?

I’m guessing that unlike Chris Kenny he gets paid per comment or via a similar stupid deal.

Token

21 Jan 13 at 2:24 pm
But John Howard bought them ‘back’ and banished them to gun safes.

I don’t understand.

Don’t worry, next week they will completely outlaw all lack of understanding. After that you will be fine.

Tel

21 Jan 13 at 2:25 pm
When you read stories like Tel’s (above), you really have to entertain the possibility that some kind of civil strife (shall we say) is inevitable in the Western world – with the state being the enemy.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm
… the state being the enemy.

If you want to massively and unacceptably increase the control the state has over your life – have children.

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 2:30 pm
Don’t underestimate bossomsies, they can be a lethal weapon you know.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 2:34 pm
he gets paid per comment

A while back, conservative radio personalities were prosecuted for “cash for comment”.
But I see not even an admonishment from any of the authorities for the constant push that lobbies like the Climate Institute get from the ABC, as Don Aitken noted in his piece, belatedly published in the Australian the other day.

blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 2:36 pm
When you read stories like Tel’s (above), you really have to entertain the possibility that some kind of civil strife (shall we say) is inevitable in the Western world – with the state being the enemy.

Martin Armstrong on this. Give it another year.

DriftForge

21 Jan 13 at 2:40 pm
Don’t underestimate bossomsies

I never have, Gab!

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 2:45 pm
he gets paid per comment

If Peter Reith had that deal over on The Dumb he’d be creaming it in. Reith on The Dumb is like running a stick down a picket fence to leftys.

H B Bear

21 Jan 13 at 3:06 pm
Essential unchanged at 54/46 2PP.
Begs the question, WTF is Newspoll on about?

Huckleberry Chunkwot

21 Jan 13 at 3:22 pm
Essential still 54-46 this week.

BTW I don’t mind me a bit of Mumble. Yes he sometimes wears his Labor heart on his sleeve, but his cynicism for the political/media spin cycle mostly outweighs this. He identified Latham as an election-losing time bomb when every other political commentator was going nuts over him. And he has consistently predicted Labor losing easily in 2013.

MDMConnell

21 Jan 13 at 3:25 pm
Here is a link to Aitkin’s piece that Blogstrop referred to @ 2.36.
Well worth a read.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

21 Jan 13 at 3:30 pm
Police on standby as angry women prepare to march on David Koch.

For these women it’s a freedom of expression issue..

Lazlo

21 Jan 13 at 3:39 pm
For me, the whole TSA thing was the point of no return vis-a-vis respecting this once fiercely freedom-loving country. The people that booted the English off their land now sheepishly allow the Federal government to digitally rape them, their children and their grandparents at airports.

Yep, in that respect Al Qaeda won that part of the war. They’ve got the US stuck on a permanent war footing and wasting billions of dollars a year on security theatre. Rather ironic given how the Soviet Union collapsed because of financial reasons rather than through military means.

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 3:55 pm
Begs the question, WTF is Newspoll on about?

Media regulation of hate media

Token

21 Jan 13 at 3:57 pm
Don’t underestimate bossomsies, they can be a lethal weapon you know.

Great anecdote in the book, “Cops” about gypsy women chasing the cops around the squad. Room, squirting milk at them because they had taken a baby to process the theiving bastiges. Apparently you can get milk pretty far down range.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 4:08 pm
WTF is Newspoll on about?

(Professor) Aynsley Kelow said here in November:

Without checking for the exact figure, I think Newspoll (sample) now runs at about 1200, whereas it was previously about 2200. Essential runs about 1700 I think.

In other words, their cost-cutting coincides with their radical departure from the sort of results that Essential and Nielsen are getting. Essential’s sample is 50% bigger.

Tom

21 Jan 13 at 4:33 pm
David Koch’s great publicity stunt. Keeping abreast of issues.

stackja

21 Jan 13 at 4:36 pm
Ahahahahahahaha.

Oakeshott to Abbott: imitate Labor and I may switch to you!

Key independent MP Rob Oakeshott has urged the Coalition to bring its broadband policy more into line with the government ahead of this year’s federal election, saying it could swing his support if the poll result hung in the balance again.

Speaking to The Australian Financial Review, Mr Oakeshott said he was “all ears” for a Coalition government come the next federal election, but said it must change its broadband policy to use the same technologies being rolled out under Labor’s $37.4 billion national broadband network.

Oakeshott pushes Coalition on broadband plans.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 5:03 pm
Koch comment on boobs “illegal”.

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 5:08 pm
FFS.

Seven calls in the cops, the Australian Breastfeeding Association calls Koch’s comments “illegal”…

WTF has happened to this country?

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 5:15 pm
1. Oakeshott wont be in Parliament in 2014 so his views on coalition policy are mute.
2. Oakeshott is deleriously wetting himself on his “relevance” this year as the media will be all gung ho about another hung parliament. Media is wrong on this score.

pete m

21 Jan 13 at 5:17 pm
It’s a storm in “d” cup, I tells ya!

Rabz

21 Jan 13 at 5:20 pm
Koch comment on boobs “illegal”.

Here’s what he said, his personal opinion:

“Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. I think you should breastfeed anywhere, any time at all. It’s just that I think you’ve got to be aware of your environment and to show respect to others and common courtesy to others and they should show respect to you as well, but depending on the situation, to be discreet and to be modest,” Koch said.

His opinion is “illegal”. What a stupid comment, has the Australian Breastfeeding Association spokesman got placenta brain?

We are ruled in this country by minority activist groups.

They’ve milked this situation for all its worth and Koch has now apologised for giving his opinion. A taste of what’s to come when von Roxon’s offend and insult laws come into force.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 5:21 pm
They’ve milked this situation for all its worth

As I said above, it’s a freedom of expression issue..

Lazlo

21 Jan 13 at 5:24 pm
Oakeshott should be practising his lawn mowing during 2013 so he is ready to hit the ground running straight after the election.

H B Bear

21 Jan 13 at 5:33 pm
They’ve milked this situation for all its worth

Yeah, so much for the breastfeeding

Sandra

21 Jan 13 at 5:39 pm
Just as Russia declared war on Japan in the dying days of WW2, Oakeshott will switch to the Libs just before the election. You watch.

nic

21 Jan 13 at 5:41 pm
I’m still waiting for Tony Abbott to launch a major, nation-wide campaign to repeal any and all laws stifling free speech in this country (including the corruptly activated get-Bolt law) and educating the electorate about what that despicable fascist, Roxon, and her daffy Emily’s Lister sisters are doing.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 5:47 pm
Just as Russia declared war on Japan in the dying days of WW2, Oakeshott will switch to the Libs just before the election. You watch.

And they had better reject him as a collaborator, shave his head and paint it with gentian violet. Quisling scum.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 5:48 pm
Gab
Much as I think Koch is left-wing cheer-leading nit-wit, I thought his comments were fine.

kae

21 Jan 13 at 5:49 pm
He’s opinion is very moderate, Kae and really nothing to get the feeding bra into a knot over.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 5:51 pm
Yeah, I dunno, Kae.

He’s OK with topless bathing but nursing mothers should be “discreet” and “classy”?

He needs to be slapped.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 5:52 pm
The breastfeeding nazis are all usually lezzos.

Getting your tits out should indeed be a classy act.

Infidel Tiger

21 Jan 13 at 5:58 pm
I think we should all go topless in solidarity.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 6:01 pm
CL and Gab
I’ve seen women breastfeeding who had no modesty at all, and it wasn’t pretty!

kae

21 Jan 13 at 6:01 pm
The breastfeeding nazis are all usually lezzos.

Really? As though they had a need for them, yea?

Getting your tits out should indeed be a classy act

I wouldn’t call it classy getting a rack out in public. However they are nice things to look at at.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 6:02 pm
Where is Monty when we need him for a comment on the latest polling figures?

Aitkin was far too easy on the ABC. Practically apologizing for having any reservations about them.

Rafe

21 Jan 13 at 6:03 pm
I’ve seen women breastfeeding who had no modesty at all, and it wasn’t pretty!

I bet the rug rat was happy though.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 6:03 pm
Come, come now Kae. What’s wrong with flopping them out for all to see while others are trying to eat? Hey, even hillbillies do that! Anywhere, anytime. No need to be discreet and consider other people. No! I say in fact we should all give them a right old airing next time a breastfeeder is in session.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 6:04 pm
Where is Monty when we need him for a comment on the latest polling figures?

Why? He wrecks threads and offers absolutely no insight to anything at all other than bile and horseshit.

Why encourage the moron Rafe? You want him to show up less, not more often.

anyways, he’s tucking into his fifth Dunkins bucket by now.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 6:06 pm
Kochy’s a genius.
How many other news outlets have just given 7 a plug.
Rating season starts when the tennis finishes, i think.
Stand by for Kochys teary apology on Kerry-Anns couch, Lance/Oprah style.

jumpnmcar

21 Jan 13 at 6:15 pm
If this is accurate then Koch has been back-tracking today:
“The Seven Network star was responding to the story of Queensland mother Liana Webster who had been forced to leave her local pool when a staff member told her she could not breastfeed by the water.

Koch said it was “fair enough” Ms Webster had been asked to move, adding “I’ve never seen (breastfeeding) done in such a high-traffic area”.”

It’s ridiculous that so much attention is paid to the comment of one person, but it also surprises me that a public pool is thought to be a place where breastfeeding is immodest.

Pedro

21 Jan 13 at 6:24 pm
Oakeshott should be practising his lawn mowing

You think anyone would hire him in his hometown? He’ll have to move to Thailand. I hope the unprincipled shit starves and his family leaves him.

Tom

21 Jan 13 at 6:26 pm
Dover – Adrien, not quite. Comparatively liberal attitudes to sex make it difficult to distinguish sexual assault/ rape from common/ aggravated assault or battery.

Why? The capacity to engage in sexual activity that traditional views hold to be immoral and/or decadent does not obviate the capacity for consent.

Either can more or less bad but what makes them different given contemporary attitudes to pornography, prostitution, promiscuity, and so on?

One can consent to multiple sexual partners, enter voluntarily into employment as a prostitute, manufacture or consume pornography. This, as far as I’m aware, does not diminish the ability to consent or decline.

Adrien

21 Jan 13 at 7:14 pm
Interesting piece by an NYU academic on the practice of Chinese eugenics. It’s quite informative until the end, when the idiot goes off into some fairyland about how we must be nice and accepting.

http://edge.org/responses/q2013

JC

21 Jan 13 at 7:17 pm
Kochie:

Male – tick

White – tick

Middle-aged – tick

Heterosexual – tick

Married – tick
( double demerits for long term marriage )

Kids – tick

Capitalist – tick
( well, he tries anyway )

I think we can all see where this is going and why Tony Abbott has a LOT of questions to answer about Boobgate !

Myrddin Seren

21 Jan 13 at 7:27 pm
Married – tick
( double demerits for long term marriage )

Especially in ALP circles. That’s considered a pistol pointed at your own head.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 7:30 pm
Married – tick
( double demerits for long term marriage )

any term same-sex-marriage ALP tick

stackja

21 Jan 13 at 7:48 pm
What’s wrong with flopping them out for all to see

Gabrielle, dear, this is an aesthetic question, and one which I’m sure all the regulars will want a piece of.
The term “flopping them out” might convey an image of something signifying an item less pert and flirtatious than lugubrious and practical. No problemo from the mum’s and bub’s perspective however.
But when all’s said and done, I’m on your side. I would just like to see men retained as an important family element, and the family retained as an important societal element, and so on.

blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 7:56 pm
Bittee.

Pickles

21 Jan 13 at 8:00 pm
Sent to me recently

There’s an annual contest at the Griffith University, Australia,calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term.

This year’s term was ‘political correctness’.

The winning student wrote:

‘Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end.’

Mike of Marion

21 Jan 13 at 8:03 pm
the idiot goes off into some fairyland about how we must be nice and accepting.
I suspect that he is merely being pragmatic. China as is does not respond well to foreign pressure, and the rise of a jingoistic nationalism means that unless the Chinese themselves decide to change their policy for their own reasons, we will be seeing the results of this national experiment within a generation or two.

Cold-Hands

21 Jan 13 at 8:03 pm
The clean end of the turd comment was plagiarised. It’s been around for a long time.

Bittee – erk, pickles.

kae

21 Jan 13 at 8:05 pm
Link it Kae. There’s a dear.

Pickles

21 Jan 13 at 8:16 pm
Kae’s right. That turd analogy has circulated in offices for decades. I am sure I saw it in the early 80s on an old photocopy on a wall at a military base.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 8:18 pm
Or maybe all of these witty office things blur together after awhile.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 8:19 pm
No Pickles.
If anyone wants to see it they can look for Bitty in youtube.
Erk.

kae

21 Jan 13 at 8:34 pm
PC clean end of the turd.

kae

21 Jan 13 at 8:37 pm
Kochie:

Male – tick

White – tick

Middle-aged – tick

Heterosexual – tick

Married – tick
( double demerits for long term marriage )

Kids – tick

Capitalist – tic

Irritating pillock – tick.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 8:38 pm
Nigella time:

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2011/12/15/1226223/021023-nigella-lawson.jpg

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 8:40 pm
Mumble

‘Both sides would improve their chances at the next election with a judicious leadership change.’

If the spread narrows, you dummy both sides wouldn’t be improving their chances. Why is the OZ paying this idiot? Why?

JC

21 Jan 13 at 8:49 pm
Irritating pillock – tick.

Insufferable cad – tick Koch should have been drummed off the airwaves then – imagine if a conservative had told such a joke – Koch is a cad

Tintarella di Luna

21 Jan 13 at 8:52 pm
( climate threads over, so I’ll repeat it here)
.
This story of a CSIRO study by Asa Wahlquist didn’t make the front pages. ( PDF sorry, all the other sources I could find were $$$ )

New research has found since 1960 the frost window has lengthened by as much as three weeks in the Victorian grain belt and by two weeks in NSW.
Frosts in Western Australia have, statistically, remained the same, while eastern South Australian sites are similar to Victoria, and sites in the west of that state are more like Western Australia.
CSIRO climate application scientist Dr Steven Crimp has been studying the incidence of frosts across the grain belt between 1960 and 2011, as part of research supported by the Grains Research and Development Corporation.
“Observational data shows the incidence of frosts has increased in Australia and there have been shifts in frost occurrence to later in the year,” he says.

Warming trend?

jumpnmcar

21 Jan 13 at 8:56 pm
‘Both sides would improve their chances at the next election

lol

jumpnmcar

21 Jan 13 at 9:00 pm
Thanks for the link, CL. Nigella is like a jumping castle for grown men.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 9:02 pm
The family kangaroo court must be abolished.

Yes.

nilk

21 Jan 13 at 9:05 pm
From Kae’s link,

You’re not going to rape my mind in the butt and force me to use state approved ‘sterile speech’ so fuck off!

LOL

Huckleberry Chunkwot

21 Jan 13 at 9:09 pm
I would just like to see men retained as an important family element, and the family retained as an important societal element, and so on.

I concur, Blogstrop. Nice job on the fisking of one sentence, btw.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 9:11 pm
Bubbles Devere then Kaye? The wrestling clip.

Pickles

21 Jan 13 at 9:17 pm
Who is John Birmingham and why is his only experience in life limited to “blowjobs from a toothless crack whore”?

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/hed_know1/

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 9:19 pm
Who takes Mumble seriously?

Rafe

21 Jan 13 at 9:28 pm
Who is Mumble anyway?

blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 9:38 pm
Thanks, Gab.

blogstrop

21 Jan 13 at 9:39 pm
That’s very funny, Gab. No-one told this toothless adolescent that the internet is forever, even if you try to stuff it down the memory hole. I said yesterday he has now apparently weedled a second weekly column out of the Fairfax shareholders to support his pathetic existence as a novelist of very limited ability. He has children. I bet he’s into us for plenty.

Tom

21 Jan 13 at 9:40 pm
What are the chances that McSporran was involved in organising the boob ‘riot’ against Koche, what with his new found mummy blogger comrades.

Awaiting the response from our dear leader, the Sentimentalist, to find out.

Rousie

21 Jan 13 at 9:40 pm
Imbecile Wayne Swan: ‘No it’s not the worst president and biggest fiscal bum in history who is a threat to the world’s economy. No no…’

Swan warns Republicans against holding world to ransom.

TREASURER Wayne Swan warned the threat posed by American Republicans could damage the world economy in his speech to a G’day USA function in New York City.

After speaking about Australia’s national economic strength when so much of the world was smarting from economic crises, Mr Swan said a major threat to world financial security was the persistent battles between the Democrats led by President Barack Obama and “elements of Congress” keen to hold the US to ransom…

Quoting US economist Paul Krugman, Mr Swan said, “Threatening to hurt tens of millions of innocent victims unless you get your way, which is what the (Republican) strategy boils down to, shouldn’t be treated as a legitimate political tactic”.

C.L.

21 Jan 13 at 9:40 pm
Family Court applies the laws. Your real beef is with the framing of divorce law. And with some judicial appointments …

pete m

21 Jan 13 at 9:41 pm
I said yesterday he has now apparently weedled a second weekly column out of the Fairfax shareholders to support his pathetic existence as a novelist of very limited ability

Oh that John Birmingham. For a “novelist” he really does lack imagination if we are to judge by his pathetic repetitive insults.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 9:44 pm
But when all’s said and done, I’m on your side. I would just like to see men retained as an important family element, and the family retained as an important societal element, and so on.

Stay at home dads are becoming a lot more common. I know a couple of them who a few decades ago would have had the traditional work full time while the wife brought up the kids. They have good uni degrees and earnt well above average wages before they had children, but their wives earn even more so they became the full time parent instead.

And having both parents work part time to share the parenting role rather than have one parent work full time and the other stay at home is also very common. In the long run I think it will lead to more equal shared care cases where there is divorce as the fathers will have a history of being the primary carer for significant periods of time.

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 9:47 pm
Family Court applies the laws. Your real beef is with the framing of divorce law. And with some judicial appointments …

And there’s a great deal of space there to work with Pete m.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 9:51 pm
Just what specifically is wrong with the Family Law Act?

sdfc

21 Jan 13 at 9:54 pm
@ Rousie

“What are the chances that McSporran was involved in organising the boob ‘riot’ against Koche, what with his new found mummy blogger comrades.

Awaiting the response from our dear leader, the Sentimentalist, to find out.”
—————-

Rousie, having dipped a toe into some of the ‘mummy blogs’, believe me, there’s no need. The breastfeeding fanatics make ultra-greens look like moderates. Fortunately, most women take no notice of them.

What a joke. A hundred (or two, depending on who you believe) protestors in a city of 4.5 million people is hardly a popular uprising.

Lots of publicity for Seven and its flagging morning show, though.

johanna

21 Jan 13 at 9:56 pm
Some time back, Gab quoted:

‘’this is a Muslim area’’

so the venue for this year’s UK gay pride parade is sorted, as is bacon fest 2013.

duncanm

21 Jan 13 at 9:58 pm
see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1enmyAmpik for Billy Connolly on his Prostate Examination

Jim Rose

21 Jan 13 at 10:06 pm
Spot, if you’re lurking in the confederacy this morning, thanks for the tip. The Penn and Teller vid on organics (on the other fred) was brilliant.

Tom

21 Jan 13 at 10:06 pm
Just what specifically is wrong with the Family Law Act?

You think it’s fair on men?

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:08 pm
Just what specifically is wrong with the Family Law Act?

Nothing if you stay married.

Infidel Tiger

21 Jan 13 at 10:10 pm
Over at BoltA comment: to pee in public is now okay.

stackja

21 Jan 13 at 10:10 pm
The Act says nothing about men from memory.

sdfc

21 Jan 13 at 10:11 pm
Family Law Act has some decent fundamental ideals:

1. welfare and needs of children are paramount

2. a married couple who enter the contract willingly and share their joint efforts willingly also intend to share willingly those proceeds at the end of the contract

Where it all goes pear shaped is interpreting the best interests of the children when you have 2 parties at war with each other, flinging mountainous lies at each other, and wrecking any chance of the children having any stability during that aweful time or thereafter. Any judge is in a no win situation.

To see parents who willingly had children together then label each other pedos is frightening and too frequent for reality.

Property – I don’t really give a fig. Sensible people tend to settle and lodge consent orders. Stupid people or frauds end up in Court where few win, save the lawyers.

I’ve been heavily involved in children custody matters over a 3-4 year period and that was enough for me. Having 1 psycho mum take her child to Italy without permission, because I forgot to get the kid’s passport surrendered, was the worst time of my life. Luckily, inside 1 year we got him back and she lost almost all parental rights.

We only managed to get child recovered because our lawyer sat down privately with their chief judge (somehow this is legal over there) and explained how our Court had seizure of matter and it should be respected – the vice versa of that other recent case. The Court was reluctant to order a child away from his mother.

Anyway, it is the hardest area of law to work in and to stay neutral, sane and emotionally stable.

I’m sure Rabz has horror stories – but you’ll rarely find the laws themselves to blame – rather the system interpreting them – how lawyers weasel affidavits – the other party and their agenda – all go to not see justice done but a victor named.

And the losers are the people.

pete m

21 Jan 13 at 10:12 pm
Scottish Star Wars, part 1. NSFW but very funny.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 10:15 pm
PeteM

1. The welfare of the kids is paramount? Really? So if the father is out to work, ma finds a dude she likes. Tell hubby provider she no longer loves him and has found someone else and needs to move out.

Dad moves out and boyfriend moves in…Dad continues paying mortgage and…. the kids are better off with the mother and the new boyfriend.

That’s right yea?

Lets test it with no kids.

Dude has a Friday night port in the storm so to speak. Sees the woman for about two years on loose terms. Finds another woman he likes.

Gets a lawsuit for maintenance.

2. Couple don’t share their assets jointly. Normally the man is hosed whether there are kids or not.

I see the problems as being no fault divorce. The person breaking the contract should not get a thing from the other party. If the kids suffer then, too bad. That’s a good lesson for others.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:24 pm
The Act says nothing about men from memory.

It doesn’t need to in order to hose men of their assets and steal their kids.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:25 pm
The person breaking the contract should not get a thing from the other party.

Assuming that the conditions of contract have been respected…

Driftforge

21 Jan 13 at 10:28 pm
Assuming that the conditions of contract have been respected…

There’s a court, use the rules of evidence. No proof. Stiff shit.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:30 pm
Pete

Sorry to read that but you make my point. The Court is full of dickhead magistrates who seem to revel in making the worst possible decisions.

I’ve seen both men and women given the raw end of the stick in that place. The biggest problem seems to me to be that you can perjure yourself in that place and no-one gives a shit. From the small sample I have had exposure to, bullshitters basically get rewarded.

sdfc

21 Jan 13 at 10:33 pm
“raw end of the stick” Have I just butchered the language again.

sdfc

21 Jan 13 at 10:35 pm
SDFC

The run rate is men get absolutely reamed in the family court by the rate of perhaps close to 99%. Stop the namby pamby bullshit. That’s the facts.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:36 pm
Have I just butchered the language again.

Nit just the language son.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:37 pm
There’s a court, use the rules of evidence. No proof. Stiff shit.

No issues with that.

DriftForge

21 Jan 13 at 10:37 pm
Gets a lawsuit for maintenance.

Except under fairly unusual circumstances (say one person becomes permanently disabled during the course of a marriage) there no longer is spousal maintenance in Australia.

2. Couple don’t share their assets jointly. Normally the man is hosed whether there are kids or not.

My experience is that is simply not true. I did have pretty low expectations but discovered the law is in general not too bad. I brought in 95% of the assets and ended up after the divorce with about 60% though had feared coming out with at most 50% especially since we had a young child.

But, and this is a big but, you need to get good legal advice as soon as possible. Those I know who have been really screwed over are those who didn’t and made some mistakes early on in the divorce process. Because the law doesn’t always work the way you might expect (eg how do you handle income immediately after separation but before there has been a property settlement)

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 10:39 pm
What facts numbnuts? The one’s you read in whingey bloke monthly?

sdfc

21 Jan 13 at 10:39 pm
Every single young male ought to read these articles by Roger Devlin and this should persuade them to run a fucking mile from marriage.

http://dontmarry.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/articles-by-f-roger-devlin/

Am I being hypocritical for saying this, after all I did marry and continue to be as it’s a happy marriage.

Not in the fucking least!

If I knew the risks then as I know them now and was warned against it, I would never have married. Ever.

The risk reward is simply now there.

50% odd of marriages fail. Men basically lose their underwear in a divorce as everything is stacked against you.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:45 pm
Btw I think you do need to separate the issues with property settlement with those of custody of children. There does seem to be a default bias towards the primary carer when it comes to custody especially of young children. In practice I think they underestimate the capability of the non primary parent to fairly quickly take on a primary parent role in a shared care scenario. I was very lucky to end up with 50/50 shared care of a 2 year old which was negotiated privately but I rather doubt would have got that through the court system as most of the literature I read heavily discouraged such expectations and at that age spoke of maybe 1-2 nights a fortnight.

Chris

21 Jan 13 at 10:46 pm
Costs ought follow the event. Might make people at least think once before they ignore orders.

Pickles

21 Jan 13 at 10:46 pm
What facts numbnuts? The one’s you read in whingey bloke monthly?

No I don’t. I’ve seen several divorces go through and also what I learnt form others.

That’s unlike you who obviously read about the great things that happen to men from Metrosexual Weekly you subscribe to, Sdfc.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:47 pm
I was very lucky to end up with 50/50 shared care of a 2 year old which was negotiated privately but I rather doubt would have got that through the court system as most of the literature I read heavily discouraged such expectations and at that age spoke of maybe 1-2 nights a fortnight.

Lucky? You hit the jackpot.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 10:49 pm
Pete says re family court disputes
“Stupid people or frauds end up in Court where few win, save the lawyers.”

Reminds me of a girfriend of mine who used to break out the champagne with her husband, a divorce lawyer, whenever he got a he got a new and bitter break up heading for the courts. It was worth a lot to their standard of living. There is a better way – but professional mediation these days doesnt come cheap either. The problem often arises because of a disparity in the earnings between two partners.

If you can stay friends and do it amicably….well you arent feeding the family assets to lawyers are you?

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:02 pm
50/50 shared care of a 2 year old

Shared care I guess is the pomo phrase for parenting.

Gab

21 Jan 13 at 11:03 pm
He bloody well needed to.

He had gastric banding done so the next time Hockey talks about willpower tell him to take a flying leap. Really, he doesn’t know how to Stay Hungry? He should contact Arnie.

John H.

21 Jan 13 at 11:07 pm
“break out the champagne with her husband, a divorce lawyer, whenever he got a he got a new and bitter break up heading for the courts.”

Talk about a profession of bottom feeders!

Rafe

21 Jan 13 at 11:09 pm
JC

when did you lose your underwear ina dovorce?
You love wifey and wifey loves you and you are in for the long haul.
My hubby and I nearly almost separated a decade ago when when were both having a mid life crisis (watch out people – its real!!).
yes – we yelled “lawyers!!” at each other LOL but we went separately to see our little family solicitor who never charged much and he gave us both a reality check (his costs were bad enough).
So we had a break – its bad enough moving furniture and cooking and shopping for one and a cat and a kid half time, let alone divorcing and having to fill in forms and see lawyers. Reality crept in.

After a while I am sure the thought of all those costs to separate made us eventually miss each other (thank goodness for hubby’s scottish blood – Im sure it reminded him how to be romantic all over again).

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:12 pm
Oh great now being fat is a psycho pathology. Doesn’t compare to the latest suggestion in the DSM 5 that nail biting is an obesssive compulsive disorder, thereby making many kid a candidate for for psychiatric intervention.

Obesity a type of addiction, warns psychiatrist Dr Isabella Melca

John H.

21 Jan 13 at 11:15 pm
JC

I disagree that mean “lose half their underwear in a divorce”. They only lose the half of the whole they assumed was all theirs.

The real losers are the kids.

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:18 pm
John H

I’m not sure if you could call obesity and addiction, however I read somewhere that these people experience hunger like anyone else, which is perhaps the strongest of all human feelings.

The reason it’s hard to step down the lard and keep it down is because it really is fucking hard to do.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 11:18 pm
It’s easier to give up smoking than it is to give up eating.

kae

21 Jan 13 at 11:23 pm
I disagree that mean “lose half their underwear in a divorce”.

You reckon? The man provides the house, the living expenses and then is forced to leave and find other accommodation. Maintenance can be 70% of a man’s salary.

There’s exactly next to no chance a man would be able to start a second family with that sort of vig to support, unless he’s very wealthy in terms of assets and income.

Divorce absolutely screws men.

They only lose the half of the whole they assumed was all theirs.

Nonsense.

The real losers are the kids.

Blame whomever called for the divorce and if the kids do suffer it’s that person’s fault and ought to live with the guilt. It’s also a good lesson.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 11:23 pm
“I think they underestimate the capability of the non primary parent to fairly quickly take on a primary parent role”

Ironing pleats in two of the girls’ hockey skirts? Consider it as an engineering solution! Oh man, I’m now reminded of the ever present fatigue … We had a lot of fun, the five of us, full time through their teenage years.

It does wonders for one’s sense of humour and one’s keen eye for, and amusement at, the ridiculous. I can recall at 9am in the squifteen million dollar JV meetings (leading them!) being pre-occupied with “Did I get all those wet clothes on the line at 5am?”

The little buggers burnt the kitchen down one year in one of those “Oh my God the chips!” moments – in between Christmas and New Year, just as I was about to hook into the oysters at lunch with a colleague at the Menzies.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

21 Jan 13 at 11:25 pm
JC there is NO WAY

maintenance is 70% of a man’s salary . You are living in the past.
These days Howard capped a mans income at 100,000 grand for the purposes of child support meaning some CEO could leave his family and his income is deemed to be 100K max. Nice if the woman had three kids with him and he left her for a tenty five year old.

No – women can really lose their underwear as well these days (and in fact often do if the stats measue anything about post divorce “who does better who does worse etc??”

Women.

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:29 pm
Alice

maintenance is 70% of a man’s salary . You are living in the past.
These days Howard capped a mans income at 100,000 grand for the purposes of child support meaning some CEO could leave his family and his income is deemed to be 100K max.

Are you totally imbecilic? What % of people earn 100K? Not household income… individual income.

The median wage here is around 45K, you idiot.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 11:32 pm
If a man abandons his children the punishment should be crushing and debilitating. However, sheilas found rooting around or shacking up with some other tomcat and using the kids maintenance money for their own benefit should be showered with hot goose fat and pelted with rock salt.

Infidel Tiger

21 Jan 13 at 11:35 pm
JC

says
“Blame whomever called for the divorce and if the kids do suffer it’s that person’s fault and ought to live with the guilt. It’s also a good lesson.”

I agree with this. There is a lot to be said for hangin in there unless you have serious reasons not to. Have a male family friend though, lovely guy, who has been a serial cheater (dashing and handsome when younger and irresistable to many women) and cheated his way through three marriages and plenty of affairs in between (there is a clinic for this in the US now).
Only now is he on his own and lonely at the age of 65 and all those divorces have left him not well off. Risky business playing around.

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:35 pm
Only now is he on his own and lonely at the age of 65 and all those divorces have left him not well off. Risky business playing around.

There is an old saying: Nature makes mothers but culture makes fathers.

John H.

21 Jan 13 at 11:37 pm
JC – I object to the fact that if a mans salary is capped at 100K and he earns 500K and wants to be a bastard – all the kids might get ripped out of their private schools.

Surely you must see a problem with that?

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:37 pm
JC

I dont know where you are or where you live but if I earned 45K in Sydney I would be starting to panic.
I dont buy the “median wage around here: being 45K. Where?

Alice

21 Jan 13 at 11:43 pm
Nice to see Parramatta Council had the balls to stand up to the Gay Mafia:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/furore-as-gay-group-asked-to-take-down-sign-20130121-2d2ps.html

I understand we have to tolerate homosexuals but must they turn every event into a demonstration of their obscure lifestyle?

Infidel Tiger

21 Jan 13 at 11:45 pm
JC – I object to the fact that if a mans salary is capped at 100K and he earns 500K and wants to be a bastard – all the kids might get ripped out of their private schools.

Surely you must see a problem with that?

Not really.

JC

21 Jan 13 at 11:57 pm
Haha, John Chedid looks like a good old lebbo, the kind I like.

That’s the risk of high octane multiculturalism, poofs. Turn Pazzamatta into Lebanon and your lifestyle will be tolerated as long as it’s out of sight.

Abu Chowdah

21 Jan 13 at 11:58 pm
JC to Alice:

Are you totally imbecilic?

Is the Pope catholic?

JamesK

21 Jan 13 at 11:59 pm
The little buggers burnt the kitchen down one year in one of those “Oh my God the chips!” moments – in between Christmas and New Year, just as I was about to hook into the oysters at lunch with a colleague at the Menzies.

Hope you multi-tasked Mick and ate the salvaged oysters from your briefcase as you drove to meet the fire engine. We women know what our handbags are for in an emergency.

And pleats as an engineering solution? So – that is why HIA is so peculiar about me taking over the ironing of his shirts. I see them as a literary endeavour, a tale told in little creases and steam.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 12:02 am
understand we have to tolerate homosexuals but must they turn every event into a demonstration of their obscure lifestyle?

It offended many there. So, under Roxon rules, off they go to jail!

Lazlo

22 Jan 13 at 12:03 am
Tiger, the Pazzamatta drama reminds me…

The current Canadian government is the most conservative in their history. They came to power with a brilliant strategy. They stole a huge part of the electorate from the left by making them realize they (Muslims etc) had more in common with conservatives than with the chatterati. Pro-family, pro-religion, anti-alternative lifestyles, etc.

The left takes it for granted that immigrants will back them because when they first arrive they are welfare whores. But as generations come and go, people seek to prosper and that means being productive if you want to make more buck than you can on the dole. They go back to traditional work and family goals and in the ME that mentality is very traditional, very conservative. Of course there will always be a few chronic welfare leeches and crooks, but the conservatives need to smarten up and rip the Persian rug out from under the ALP.

Abu Chowdah

22 Jan 13 at 12:10 am
I dont know where you are or where you live but if I earned 45K in Sydney I would be starting to panic.
I dont buy the “median wage around here: being 45K. Where?

Alice, you numbnut. Parrammatta is being talked about here so lets use that seeing it also sits right in the middle of Sydney.

The median individual income is $623.00 per week and the median household income is $1314.00 per week.

http://localstats.qpzm.com.au/stats/nsw/sydney/parramatta/parramatta

JC

22 Jan 13 at 12:15 am
Man outsources own job to China.

H/T Instapundit

Steve of Ferny Hills

22 Jan 13 at 12:16 am
@ IT

“If a man abandons his children the punishment should be crushing and debilitating. However, sheilas found rooting around or shacking up with some other tomcat and using the kids maintenance money for their own benefit should be showered with hot goose fat and pelted with rock salt.”

_____________________

You don’t seem to regard men rooting around as being a problem, I notice, as long as he doesn’t ‘abandon his children’.

It is a bit sad to see posters here simultaneously trumpeting the primacy of the family, suggesting that marriage is a trap, and ignoring the fact that one of the first social welfare measures in this country was the Deserted Wives Pension.

To suggest that men running out on their families and leaving them destitute is new, or unusual, is bullshit. For those dreamers who say that family or community will pick up the slack, read the history of charities like Barnardos and those associated (on both ends) with bringing kids from England to Australia. I mean, from the perspective of the kids and their parents.

It’s a bit of a raw nerve with me because a friend of many decades died recently. Her father skipped, and she ended up in Parramatta Girls Home because her mother simply couldn’t support the family while looking after the small children. What happened to her there marked her for life.

I agree that there is way too much of a culture of entitlement around sole parent benefits. I also agree that the incentives are wrong. But, geez, get a grip, warriors. Especially those of you who want women to lose their ability to earn income and support themselves by being stay-at-home mothers while characterising them as leeches.

johanna

22 Jan 13 at 12:17 am
Johanna

70% of divorce is asked for by females. It’s actually closer to 90% when you take into account the fact the woman forces the man to leave by making his life unbearable in the marriage and does so with that objective in mind.

Men can screw around and also fall back and take care of their families. It doesn’t always happen, but your example is pretty rare.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 12:22 am
You don’t seem to regard men rooting around as being a problem, I notice, as long as he doesn’t ‘abandon his children’.

I didn’t list everything I regard as a sin. We’d run out of ink, but to be clear:

Men who get married and then continue to root around are weak dogs.

“I forsake all others” – easy to say, hard to do. Especially when it’s summer time and there is so much sweet trim walking around. It requires character.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 12:26 am
And furthermore your example doesn’t take into account what actually happened in the marriage and why he left. It’s no good telling us the husband left without providing the background information and why it occurred along with supporting evidence.

For all we know the wife was playing around during the day, he found out and took off.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 12:27 am
The current Canadian government is the most conservative in their history. They came to power with a brilliant strategy. They stole a huge part of the electorate from the left by making them realize they (Muslims etc) had more in common with conservatives than with the chatterati. Pro-family, pro-religion, anti-alternative lifestyles, etc.

About 5% of our population is Asian. That should be a rock solid voting bloc for the conservatives.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 12:28 am
“… and ate the salvaged oysters from your briefcase as you drove to meet the fire engine. We women know what our handbags are for in an emergency”

Oh Elizabeth! Some things are part of a much grander whole. Ya can’t enjoy the splendid event of oysters by shoving ya mitt into one of those cavernous clear-a-path weapons and grubbing about for them amongst the roofing nails and eyeliner lurching about in the bottom.

I do recall now that lunch was to be taken with our in-house (ex SMH) journalist (ha! to you) who knew words well, grog and life on the punt. We used argue about the simplicity of this word or that in media releases, him wanting to communicate clearly and me preferring the esoteric. He was right of course.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 12:31 am
and eyeliner lurching about in the bottom.

The things you learn about people on blogs, eh?

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 12:34 am
Your defences of men who screw around are not very convincing.

Since women who divorce (with dependent children) are overwhemingly poorer than their exes, the money-gouging thing doesn’t work. Everyone is poorer because it costs more to run two households than one.

No-one has commented on why the Deserted Wives Pension was instituted, I notice.

Make up your mind. Either, women are family nurturers who deserve economic support. Or, they are workers who just need a couple of months off now and then to have children (who can then be put into childcare, which they can afford). You have set up these categories, so which do you want?

johanna

22 Jan 13 at 12:41 am
“The left takes it for granted that immigrants will back them because when they first arrive they are welfare whores. But as generations come and go, people seek to prosper and that means being productive”

That’s interesting about the conservatives regaining lost ground in Canada, Abu Chowdah.

One tries to think ahead and there is much reason to be disenchanted (a topical example is the attack on Parramatta Council for being displeased with a fringe pack of woofs peddling their seedy wares, and the enthusiasm the media shows for supporting the smart alecs).

I don’t know that the conservatives have the will “to smarten up and rip the Persian rug out from under the ALP” – I cite ComradeLite Baillieu’s quiet surrender as evidence, and ComradeLite O’Barrell’s indolence.

I’ve witnessed an accelerating deterioration in our once self-assured culture.

I trust you are right about evolving migrant aspirations – it happened with every post war group from southern Europe, the Christian Lebanese and later with the Vietnamese and Cambodians. It’s the natural path (more money, more happy) and one trusts history repeats itself.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 12:50 am
Your defences of men who screw around are not very convincing.

Convincing? You mean like 1000′s of years of evolution?

Since women who divorce (with dependent children) are overwhemingly poorer than their exes, the money-gouging thing doesn’t work. Everyone is poorer because it costs more to run two households than one.

Then remove no fault divorce.

No-one has commented on why the Deserted Wives Pension was instituted, I notice.

First time I’ve ever heard about it and don’t know enough about it’s history. Perhaps other people are in the same boat.

Make up your mind. Either, women are family nurturers who deserve economic support.

I’m not really prepared to look at people as belonging to groups. This is why I believe that no fault divorce ought to be repealed.

Or, they are workers who just need a couple of months off now and then to have children (who can then be put into childcare, which they can afford).

Sort it out with the employers.

You have set up these categories, so which do you want?

Want as in what?

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:04 am
“and eyeliner lurching about in the bottom.

The things you learn about people on blogs, eh?”

In the olden days Gabrielle dusty blokes who mumble would deliver coal to homes for heating in sacks the size of wimminses’ modern handbags.

Just yesterday in the fruit and veges a wimminses silently thrust hers against my back three times, tired of being ignored and growled “Excuse me”, got looked at indifferently and ignored some more for her impoliteness and because she left off a word.

I made a point of protracting the conversation with the delighted young lady from the Punjab on the cash register, about that region.

I’m blessed with a Mrs Mick who needs only my pockets for her wimmenses security blanket items – a mobile and her glasses and she doesn’t own a purse.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 1:08 am
Alice, I am glad you and your old man sorted things out and that he got romantic again. It is good to hear something of the life experiences of fellow blogees, especially when all ends well. Useful advice too.

Da Hairy Ape has never been big on da romance with chocolates and flowers, but he is very good with the snuggles and declarations of adoration and the singing of songs to entertain me late into the night and being both fun and clever.

When we first met he spent the evening talking to me about football and I spent my time telling him about ballet, and neither of us had a clue what the other was talking about. The only thing we knew was that we desperately wanted to keep on talking to each other.

In many ways still, nothing has changed. We spar constantly, completely amuse and intrigue each other, miss each other madly, can’t keep our paws off each other, and somehow it works; well, we shamble along well enough, anyway, and he shows ‘character’ in spades, IT, whereas I am a terrible flirt (nothing more).

This is second time round for us both and there is no question that it is for keeps. We are both well over ‘pomo’ (now I see Gab that pomo refers to post-modernism; I hadn’t twigged before, probably because I can be very dense at times due to being hopelessly inattentive, as I am sometimes expertly reminded, as indeed can this expert be quite the thicko occasionally on matters pertaining to culture and discretion).
———————–

Johanna, them’s fightin’ words in that feisty reply up there. I’m happy to just take the economic support right now from a very willing provider, but I can see that in the past it didn’t suit me, and circumstances could arise which may not always make it my choice. Really, there is no clear answer; it’s a conundrum.

But, as I was told about being deserted – ‘you’re not the first woman to be left holding the babies, and you won’t be the last’ – a wisdom coming to me directly from the past I always thought. So I think you are right on the Deserted Wives Pension issue.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 1:09 am
…and the singing of songs to entertain me late into the night and being both fun and clever.

You have a karaoke thing going there Lizzie?

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:12 am
The Kenyan in 2006 making a speech to the senate on why he opposed an increase in the debt limit. God’s he’s a douchebag.

I rise today to talk about America’s debt
problem. The fact that we are here today to
debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign
of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S.
Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign
that we now depend on the ongoing financial
assistance from foreign countries to finance
our government’s reckless fiscal policies.
Over the past five years our federal debt has
increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion… and
over the next five years between now and 2011 the President’s budget will increase the
debt by almost another $3.5 trillion….
Our debt matters internationally. My friend,
the ranking member of the Senate Budget
Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42
Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion
of foreign held debt. This Administration did
more than that in just five years…
Increasingly, America’s debt weakens us
domestically and internationally. Leadership
means that “the buck stops here.” Instead,
Washington is shifting the burden of bad
choices today onto the backs of our children
and grandchildren. America has a debt
problem and a failure of leadership.
Americans deserve better [and] therefore I
intend to oppose the effort to increase
America’s debt limit.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:25 am
oops God he’s a douchebag..

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:28 am
He has been taken to karaoke clubs a lot when on his frequent trips to Japan, JC, but we don’t have such things at home. His songs at home are gently sung in accompaniment to stuff he hauls down from the net, old Irish ballads, and Cole Porter, and other such things, or they arise spontaneously simply from the depths within. Sometimes we dance together too and have a little party all alone, playing CD’s of our favorites. (quite a few of my happily married friends of all ages tell me that this is what they and their husbands do too).

Private lives; simple happinesses.

I’m checking out now, just look at the time!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 1:35 am
Symbolically perfect:

Rapper at Inauguration Concert Tossed From Stage After Anti-Obama Rant (Video).

Hail to the Dear Leader.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 2:03 am
Yes, JC, but that was a different type of debt limit, not the type of debt limit we were all used to, not like now. The point being that it wasn’t the normal kind of debt limit.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 2:26 am
Why? The capacity to engage in sexual activity that traditional views hold to be immoral and/or decadent does not obviate the capacity for consent.

Adrien, who said it did? You seem to have missed my point which was that:

I’m not asking what makes rape [or sexual assault] different from promiscuity, prostitution, and so on, but from common or aggravated assault given contemporary liberal attitudes to sex. It can’t be “choice” or “consent” because no one chooses to be assaulted either.

dover_beach

22 Jan 13 at 6:25 am
It takes a high-profile court case to shine a light in an election year on the electoral poison of a welfare system out of control:

HE has no trouble smashing police car windscreens with milk crates but it seems Muslim rioter Omar Halaby is not fit to work, receiving a $200-a-fortnight disability support pension.

The 19-year-old from Padstow last week escaped with a good-behaviour bond for his role in September’s violent Muslim protest in the CBD – partly because of remorse, his previous clean record and health issues he suffers that include sporting injuries and literacy problems.

When The Daily Telegraph visited his home yesterday, Halaby did not wish to talk about his reasons for claiming the pension. His father also refused to comment.

In documents tendered to the Downing Centre Local Court, Legal Aid lawyer Sophie Edin said Halaby suffered from “certain disabilities” which had seen him claim the pension for the past three years.”He has some physical problems in relation to some football accidents,” Ms Edin told the court. “He has literacy issues, a short attention span, things to that effect.”

Community Services Minister Jenny Macklin yesterday defended the eligibility criteria of the disability support pension, which can be paid up to a rate of $712 a fortnight, compared to the dole at $492.

A spokeswoman for Ms Macklin said recipients were forced to meet strict criteria to claim the disability pension.

“People do not qualify for the disability support pension because they are illiterate,” the spokeswoman said. “To be eligible for the disability support pension a person must have a permanent disability or medical conditions that make them unable to work.”

About 820,000 people are on the disability pension, costing $15 billion a year, which is predicted to balloon to $16.9 billion by 2015-16.

Halaby lives with his parents but, according to court documents, pays no board from his $200-a-fortnight taxpayer-funded allowance. He is not involved in any studies or community organisations, the documents said.

It’s the No.1 story at the Tele website, meaning close to a million people will read it this morning online or in print.

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 6:34 am
Get the frigging government out of my face:

A THIRD of Australians want their local state MP sacked, saying state governments should be abolished.

A Galaxy poll of more than 1000 people, conducted for The Daily Telegraph, reveals the level of disdain some have for our nation’s politicians: one in two Aussies think governments are too meddlesome.

Forty-nine per cent said the government had too much “control and involvement” in people’s lives, while 22 per cent wanted more government involvement in issues that affected quality of life.

About 30 per cent said the level was just right.

When asked whether state governments should be dismantled, 33 per cent replied yes, 44 per cent wanted them to remain in place and the remainder were uncommitted.

The Tele then devotes much of the rest of its story to a smartarse busybody who says people just love having government running their lives:

Social analyst David Chalke said people were “absolutely fibbing” when they said they wanted governments to step back, adding that people felt they should be left alone while “everyone else” needed regulating.

“If you say to people should there be health warnings on alcohol to stop people drinking too much, oh yeah, 80 per cent will say yes,” Mr Chalke said.

“Should there be warnings on poker machines, about 85 per cent (say yes). We love people to set rules. Not for us, but for everyone else who breaks them.”

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 6:47 am
TAXPAYERS are footing the bill for a $5.5 million advertising campaign to promote the Schoolkids Bonus because research reveals the 1.5 million parents who receive it have “very low levels of awareness” of the payment worth up to $820 a child.

It’s not so much advertising as it is propaganda.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 6:59 am
research reveals the 1.5 million parents who receive it have “very low levels of awareness” of the payment worth up to $820 a child.

They could save $5.5 million in advertising if they just put out a press release on any Friday after 5.00pm saying the bonus was being scrapped. It’s only when a “free money” scheme is about to be dropped that moochers suddenly become “very aware”. Up until then they treat bonuses as like money in the bank or forced savings.

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 7:18 am
Abu Chowdah @ 1232.

Very astute observation. As others have already stated, the State-based Libs aren’t interested/capable of tapping into the new communities and gaining their support. Perhaps some whizkid in Federal Libs might read what you have observed and get cracking on it.

Mike

Mike of Marion

22 Jan 13 at 8:05 am
The key to allowable free expression in Australia seems to be expressing yourself with so much force that you vault beyond legislative constraints and into some kind of legal free-for-all zone. Armed with milk crates, machetes or malicious media releases, you’ll be relatively safe.

Just don’t call someone a poof at the footy.

Great read.

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 8:12 am
Nice to see Parramatta Council had the balls to stand up to the Gay Mafia:

You do realise that decision was most sensible considering that some of the parents mentioned would be related to a well known group of invalid pensioners with milkcrates, who would not be shy about dropping by to express their dislike of gays?

Token

22 Jan 13 at 8:15 am
“support services for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, same-sex attracted and gender-diverse young people, their families and communities”

What about furries? They need support and understanding too.

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 8:28 am
Very astute observation. As others have already stated, the State-based Libs aren’t interested/capable of tapping into the new communities and gaining their support.

The size of the victory by Barry O’Farrell’s Libs was built on finding places where the great Labor patronage machine was breaking down due to the natural conservative values of the relevant community.

E.g. The “Chinese” community is not homogeneous and those from Singapore/Taiwan/Hong Kong who have made a staggering amount of money from free trade and open economies are not big fans of Labor style big government supressing their education options.

Token

22 Jan 13 at 8:28 am
Good to see that Gerard Henderson has started the new year well:

The fashionable left-wing view of former president George W. Bush is he invaded Muslim lands and instituted draconian national security legislation – the embodiment of which is the Guantanamo Bay military prison. According to the leftist line, all this was a manifestation of a world view labelled neo-conservatism.

Of course, al-Qaeda’s attacks in the US – which culminated in the events of September 11, 2001 – took place before the ”coalition of the willing” (US, Britain, Australia and Poland) invaded Iraq. Also, Bush was never a neo-conservative since he has been a political conservative all his adult life. But facts rarely suffice to diminish a convenient theory. And Bush – war monger overseas and human rights oppressor at home – is a phenomenon widely referred to at universities and within sections of the media.

Then moves on to squewer lefties who don’t seem to mind when socialist/lefty leaders kill terrorists via drone & air strikes:

France’s intervention in Mali in support of the government in Bamako, and in opposition to the Tuareg rebels, who include Islamists who enjoy the support of al-Qaeda in the AQIM, carries some risk. Yet the French president enjoys widespread bipartisan support in his aim of stopping Mali from becoming another Afghanistan. Even though, before narrowly defeating the conservative Nicolas Sarkozy in last year’s presidential election, Hollande promised the French people a Socialist administration would be less interventionist in Africa.

..and…

Obama may regard the term ”war on terror” as redundant. Yet his administration has substantially increased the number of drone strikes against Islamic jihadists in foreign lands. Obama’s successful ”kills” include one jihadist of American citizenship who was specifically targeted. The US is now providing logistical support to the French intervention in Mali.

Unfortunately, no matter how much support the honest people on the right provide to lefty leaders at these important moments, the reality is that dishonest lefty fruitbats will resume calling us all murders and oppressors once their team is no longer in power.

Token

22 Jan 13 at 8:39 am
“Should there be warnings on poker machines, about 85 per cent (say yes). We love people to set rules. Not for us, but for everyone else who breaks them.”

Heh. I had a chat to the bartender at a pub we sometimes have dinner at. Because there are pokies, there is also the wonderful little regulation that you can’t get money out of the atm until the machine is unlocked by the bar staff.

Last weekend, I asked the barman what he thought about it, and he thought it was a good idea, as did the majority of the patrons. In his mind, it was only an extra step and not an imposition.

He had a hard time getting his head around my suggestion that it was indeed an imposition and offensive. As someone who hits the pokies once every few years and then only for $20 at a time, why was I being treated like a problem gambler? Why do I have to get permission to take my own money out? Especially when I’m there with my offspring for dinner and looking to buy a drink?

The government can foad as far as I’m concerned.

nilk

22 Jan 13 at 8:53 am
why was I being treated like a problem gambler?

Because you’re in the majority and the ALP caters to minorities and continually legislates for stupidity thereby restricting the majority who don’t have a problem gambling. Minorities and activist groups run this country.

Same story for the impending tax on alcohol and soft drinks.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:59 am
why was I being treated like a problem gambler?

Of course no progressive would be stupid enough to think you are an adult who can resist destructive impulses without the heavy hand of big government.

Token

22 Jan 13 at 9:06 am
Hilarious. Parental leave payments are made upon the condition that your child is immunised. Not really….

Immunisation exemptions
If there is an approved reason why your child isn’t fully immunised and you want an immunisation exemption, you need to provide us with one of the following from your immunisation provider or doctor:

an Immunisation exemption for medical reasons (contraindication) form
an Immunisation exemption by conscientious objection form, or
a letter explaining why the exemption is necessary.

So, you can sponge money and have your child be a potential carrier of an infectious disease in the community and at child care centers.

Dan

22 Jan 13 at 9:21 am
The last one is “The Aristocrats” rendition of all time.

Very offensive jokes but very funny at times.

John H.

22 Jan 13 at 9:27 am
…why was I being treated like a problem gambler?
Because you’re in the majority and the ALP caters to minorities

Light bulb moment for me right there. Never seen it expressed so simply and clearly.

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 9:48 am
Seems like the invalid who has the strength to throw milkcrates at police cars may have brought to light the scam which the government is using to hide long term unemployed:

A spokeswoman for Ms Macklin said recipients were forced to meet strict criteria to claim the disability pension.

“People do not qualify for the disability support pension because they are illiterate,” the spokeswoman said. “To be eligible for the disability support pension a person must have a permanent disability or medical conditions that make them unable to work.”

Obviously that describes Omar Hillaby…

Token

22 Jan 13 at 9:50 am
Catallaxy: Have you looked at the rural sector? Banks are treating farmers abysmally. Here is a recent report into the sector: http://api.ning.com/files/RWI75JigP-IdEU6jaTbE695*u8qrFxpSg3wU-As2t9UH*0OjBP7uDa3Wp7ickpwHalBkx6L8YaKoUlB9XRhZlC5YVZz7kG0C/RuralAustraliavOrthodoxEconomics.pdf

Here also is the story of a Walgett farmer who is being booted off their property today. http://justgroundsonline.com/profiles/blogs/nab-does-hatchet-job-on-walgett-farmers

Thumbnail

22 Jan 13 at 9:50 am
I’ve never understood why people think the problem that most needs addressing in the financial sector is wages. It’s like trying to improve the education system by building toilet blocks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/21/us-reutersmagazine-davos-swiss-rich-idUSBRE90K0F420130121

Minder’s initiative goes further, forcing all listed companies to have binding votes on compensation for company managers and directors, and ban golden handshakes and parachutes. It would also ban bonus payments to managers if their companies are taken over, and impose severe penalties — including possible jail sentences and fines — for breaches of these new rules.

At least his proposal isn’t as ludicrous as this guy’s:

David Roth, the leader of the youth wing of the Social Democrats, says it won’t do much to address Switzerland’s deep inequality of wealth. Roth, 27, who organized the “Occupy Davos” camp of igloos in Davos in 2011, is pushing for a much more radical reform: Limit the annual compensation of top executives to just 12 times that of their lowest-paid worker.

Jarrah

22 Jan 13 at 9:59 am
Animal rights protesters prove their idiocy.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2013/jan/21/human-branding-animal-rights-stunt

Becky Folkard, a 34-year-old vegan from Hampshire, is promising to perform the latest form of protest today at a staged event in London where she will “hot brand” three fellow protestors to highlight the pain inflicted on dairy cattle when they are branded.

Except that:

Joseph Keating, the National Farmers Union’s livestock adviser, was perplexed by the planned protest: “I’ve never seen hot branding done in this country. It has been outlawed for a generation. I’ve only seen it in old western films. Cattle are now identified with ear tags from birth, as are sheep.

Whoops.

Jarrah

22 Jan 13 at 10:11 am
The newspaper that dare not speak its name:

areff

22 Jan 13 at 10:35 am
Catallaxy: Have you looked at the rural sector? Banks are treating farmers abysmally. Here is a recent report into the sector.

Did you hear about the dog that bit a man? Pretty exciting story, but didn’t make the news.

Tel

22 Jan 13 at 10:39 am
Oh. My. Goodness. Break out the rusty razor blades.

Poetry for teh Won.

This is absolute drivel. TS Eliot he’s not.

nilk

22 Jan 13 at 10:42 am
Obligatory awesome tilty head at 4.16 in the link above, so I feel better now.

nilk

22 Jan 13 at 10:43 am
From areff’s link:

Media buyers and sources inside the company have confirmed that mock-ups were prepared replacing the newspaper’s traditional Sydney Morning Herald masthead with the “SMH” brand.

#SMH.

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 10:52 am
Forty-nine per cent said the government had too much “control and involvement” in people’s lives, while 22 per cent wanted more government involvement in issues that affected quality of life.

About 30 per cent said the level was just right.

So the majority of Australians live being coddled by Government? This is a very sick, childish country. An unflushed toilet.

Infidel tiger

22 Jan 13 at 10:52 am
replacing the newspaper’s traditional Sydney Morning Herald masthead with the “SMH” brand.

You can put feathers on a skunk but it still don’t make him a chicken.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 10:57 am
Poetry for teh Won.

anyone who didn’t like it is racist and homphobic. LOL

Obama Inauguration poem roundly panned; Sparks hilarious Cantor face, haikus

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 10:59 am
Speaking poetry, though, you know who I really miss? Lyle, from Blair’s.

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 11:00 am
LOL Gab!

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 11:01 am
The “Chinese” community is not homogeneous and those from Singapore/Taiwan/Hong Kong who have made a staggering amount of money from free trade and open economies are not big fans of Labor style big government supressing their education options.

Agreed, the ALP don’t understand that a lot of migrants are here to look for economic opportunities and want to work hard.

In Australian electoral history there has not been a bigger mandate than the one achieved by the Liberal-Nationals Coalition on 26 March 2011. Western Sydney threw its support behind the Liberal Party and I have no doubt that the region will be an important focus of our attention over the next four years and beyond. I believe this Government was elected because the community wants to see us focusing on the fundamentals: building infrastructure, providing services and upholding family values. I can assure the House that we will not take western Sydney for granted. We will work tirelessly to deliver the opportunities, infrastructure and services that our electorates deserve.

The people of Granville are warm and culturally diverse, they are hardworking and family-oriented, and I am so proud to represent them in the New South Wales Parliament. Granville is an electorate representing much of western Sydney, a region that contributes around $80 billion to the State’s gross domestic product. Western Sydney is Australia’s third largest economy, behind Sydney and Melbourne, but it faces many challenges, including traffic and housing pressures and a transport system that does not efficiently integrate our communities within the region. Over 16 years the previous State Government promised 12 new rail lines, yet delivered only half of one, and unfortunately it was not in western Sydney.

http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/0/DD9B42B680754E41CA257869002331C0

Tony’s son is on Parramatta council too, the family seem to be well respected in the community when I have asked around.

Tel

22 Jan 13 at 11:01 am
These days Howard capped a mans income at 100,000 grand for the purposes of child support meaning some CEO could leave his family and his income is deemed to be 100K max. Nice if the woman had three kids with him and he left her for a tenty five year old.

The child support formula is primarily based on the cost to raise a child rather than the income of the parents. Which I think makes a lot more sense. After all its purpose is to look after the children not the ex even if especially with young children some money needs to go to the spouse as the time they spend looking after the children is time they can’t be working. Also a family that has income of $200000/yr probably doesn’t spend twice as much on their children as one that earns $100000. IMO it’s better that they don’t.

Then remove no fault divorce.

Whilst that might salve a bit of the need for vengeance will it really help in practice? A spouse who doesn’t want to be in a marriage can make life hell for their partner without establishing grounds for divorce for their partner. It would probably stimulate and industry of PIs and people willing to entice and entrap spouses but that’s not a particularly worthy or useful industry.

Chris

22 Jan 13 at 11:12 am
Jarrah

The Guardian is lying again as it always does delivering their AgitProp from Commie Scientist Central. Becky Folkard is actually the Hipster Queen of Hampshire and also a supermarket shelf-stacker. Her protest was the annual ‘This is Hardcore (ie Tattoos are for suburbanite dorks) Festival.

Branding is the new hardcore man. Becky’s not a vegan she likes to eat small animals raw. The Guardian is just trying to co-opt the thriving supermarket shelf stacking scene of Hampshire to lend credence to its increasingly absurd contention that heat is contained in atmospheres by CO2 etc.

Please await the hit new reality series: T’riffic Tatoo’d Trippers at Tesco, Two AM. Becky’s got potential, she could be hosting infomercials in Dallas if she plays her cards right.

Adrien

22 Jan 13 at 11:44 am
sorry if this has been mentioned
Did you know this http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-leading-article/8827441/great-news-blackadder/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=great-news-blackadder

World’s Greatest Treasurer, Part VI
We must beg our readers’ forgiveness for having neglected our duty to chronicle the innovative economic practices of the man dubbed by Euromoney magazine ‘the world’s greatest finance minister’.
Over the Christmas period, perhaps distracted by the festivities, we forgot to praise the widely-lauded ‘correction’ that our national finances demanded, namely a long overdue Return to Deficit.
Perhaps it was because we never actually believed that a surplus could be genuinely contemplated, let alone delivered, by a Treasurer whose every action makes the Whitlam-era Khemlani Loan Shark affair look like prudent economic management, and a government which long ago gave up any pretence of caring where the money to fund their extravagant, touchy-feely promises will actually come from.
Or perhaps it was because we knew that we wouldn’t have to wait long until another gem would come along, and we could bundle them up together.
We weren’t disappointed. The much-touted mining tax, for the second quarter in a row, will again be raising, er, zero dollars. Or at least, we think it might be zero but we’re not sure; Mr Swan and his wonderfully evasive sidekick Penny Wong aren’t ‘allowed’ to tell us, as their lawyers have conveniently discovered that to do so would be illegal. ‘The ATO’s current view is that disclosure of these data would breach the secrecy provisions of the Taxation Administration Act,’ they claim. Phew! The Disingenuous Duo now have a rolled-gold excuse for never again informing the electorate how much any of our taxes may or may not raise. Brilliant!
Sure beats the hell out of trying to cobble together a phony surplus.

val majkus

22 Jan 13 at 11:51 am
Hi Spot
I’ve sent Lyle a message…

kae

22 Jan 13 at 12:05 pm
Landfillharmonic

An interesting story, apologies if posted already…

Old Fridgie

22 Jan 13 at 12:12 pm
Good deal, Kae. I would’ve paid good money to have heard his version of an Inauguration Day poem.

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 12:14 pm
Haha.

I just noticed that Blair’s ROTTEN, BLOODY, POOFTER, COMMO, MONGREL BASTARDS is Legal Insurrection’s “Post of the Day” (see right sidebar).

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 12:19 pm
Nova Peris chosen by Gillard to replace Trish Crossin as the Labor Senator for the Northern Territory, becoming the first Aboriginal woman in Parliament.

m0nty

22 Jan 13 at 12:26 pm
Note: Peris is not in yet, but it’s a formality.

m0nty

22 Jan 13 at 12:28 pm
That’s really interesting Monst. I sat up when I read it.

Thanks.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 12:36 pm
The ALP are only 5 decades behind the Libs.

Let’s ask Warren Mundine how he feels about the ALP and preselection.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 12:38 pm
Nova Peris chosen by Gillard to replace Trish Crossin as the Labor Senator for the Northern Territory, becoming the first Aboriginal woman in Parliament.

I heard. She can thank Bess Price and the others for forcing the ALP to stop paying lip service to a group that has blindly supported them in elections since the ’60s.

Thank goodness for the conservatives, eh M0nty?

Token

22 Jan 13 at 12:40 pm
Fairfax obit January 22, 2013

JAMES M. BUCHANAN 1919-2013 Of the economics of the last generation, he said he was reminded of Tolkien, ”who through sheer power of imagination created a whole new world of beings, the hobbit world, in his trilogy, The Lord of the Rings. The analogy is revealing when we recall that Tolkien was writing fairy tales for children.”

stackja

22 Jan 13 at 12:40 pm
The Sun King was inaugorated with an address which came from what he learned in Fabian Socialism studies, unit 101:

The president took generalities with which we all agree and used them to imply that to carry on in the American tradition “progressive” measures favored by his base need to be implemented.

Take the enthusiastic response by liberal columnist Matthew Yglesias writing at Slate. According to Yglesias, the president’s speech was “not even slightly” anti-capitalist, but instead was a defense of economic liberalism tempered by a “robust welfare state and select government interventions in the economy.” Obama, he thinks, came off not as any kind of socialist or statist, but as a pragmatist in the American tradition who believes that fidelity to the Constitution demands a “pragmatic response to changing circumstances.”

Thus the president said in his speech that a “free market only thrives when there are rules to ensure competition and fair play.” Echoing the progressivism of the age of Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, he emphasized that a “great nation must care for the vulnerable and protect its people from life’s worst hazards and misfortune.”

…After repeating the generally accepted view of self-reliance, individuality, and rejection of central authority, the president made it clear he believes “times change,” and we must too, thus responding to new challenges through “collective action.”

In one fell swoop, President Obama moved from giving lip service to free market ideology (thereby fooling people like Matthew Yglesias) to arguing against those supposed conservatives — strawmen, really — who supposedly want to do away with Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, and whom the president claims argue that they “sap our initiative” rather than, as he would have it, “strengthen us.”

Token

22 Jan 13 at 12:43 pm
What happened to Nova Peris’ kneebone?

Token

22 Jan 13 at 12:45 pm
Echoing the progressivism of the age of Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson

That’d be right. Woodrow was the worst President in US history.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 12:50 pm
EU carbon price continues to slide.

Carbon traders had hoped that improving economic conditions in Germany, where unemployment has fallen to a 30-year low, and other factors such as the closure of German nuclear power plants, would have led to more of the fossil-fuel generated electricity that is a prime source of emissions of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas.

But so far those factors have failed to lift demand for permits.

The problems of the European carbon markets follow a major crisis in the world’s only global carbon market – the UN’s Clean Development Mechanism. Carbon prices in the UN-backed system have fallen to a record of just $0.34 a tonne, down from more than $20 a tonne in 2008. A panel set up by the UN to assess the CDM last year concluded the system had “essentially collapsed”.

Rafe

22 Jan 13 at 1:03 pm
EU carbon price continues to slide

Thank Gaia for the Labor-Greens floor price and fixed increases over the first three years then.

H B Bear

22 Jan 13 at 1:05 pm
A better link, no sub required.

Rafe

22 Jan 13 at 1:06 pm
A panel set up by the UN to assess the CDM last year concluded the system had “essentially collapsed”.

hahahhahahahahahahahahah

couldn’t happen to worse bunch of arseholes.

There’s not one thing they’ve touched that hasn’t turned to shit.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:06 pm
Media buyers and sources inside the company have confirmed that mock-ups were prepared replacing the newspaper’s traditional Sydney Morning Herald masthead with the “SMH” brand.

Fauxfacts KFC moment. Going to zero.

H B Bear

22 Jan 13 at 1:09 pm
Women really are a different species.

A few minutes ago there a buzz at the front door. I was listening to my wife cooing over some stupid cushions an interior designer brought around for a room.

How the fuck do you get excited over cushions? Cushions?

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:09 pm
Gottliebsen appears to have hallucinogens added to his tea ?:

Please, Mr Obama when you have finished your four-year term as US president would you come to Australia and show our politicians on both sides how you build a country?

Please come Mr Obama and show us what we need to do because we have the energy, the work force, the markets and the capital to duplicate the US but we don’t have the leaders.

Myrrdin Seren

22 Jan 13 at 1:11 pm
I’ll warm up the audience until Lyle arrives:

A double-act inauguration
Of stupefying long duration
Brought promises of left agenda:
Obama on extended bender.

But out in voterland it seemed
The show had already been beamed,
With jugglers, giant cake and more
“Low info voters” were in awe.

blogstrop

22 Jan 13 at 1:13 pm
Fauxfacts KFC moment. Going to zero.

I hear they got in just a bit to late, Mackers is now taken.

Token

22 Jan 13 at 1:13 pm
LOL. Very nice, Bloggy!

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 1:16 pm
Please, Mr Obama when you have finished your four-year term as US president would you come to Australia and show our politicians on both sides how you build a country?

The US is a steaming pile of rusting shit. Gottliebsen needs to be sectioned to Shady Pines Retirement Home.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 1:18 pm
Please, Mr Obama when you have finished your four-year term as US president would you come to Australia and show our politicians on both sides how you build a country?

Gottliebsen said that? What a groveling turd.

What’s with Australians groveling to the Kenyan. It really seems to be a white thing.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:21 pm
Were they good quality cushions, JC? What brand? How much? Colour range? Who was the company? Did wifey buy any?

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 1:37 pm
“To the airports, fellow activists!”

Tim Blair has the hilarious quote of the day.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 1:44 pm
lol Gab…

Dunno if they’re good quality or not.

They were a made to order thing.

Yes she did. She had a silly room renovated she calls her “office”, which I refer to as a hospital triage… Don’t ask. They are for in there.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:45 pm
LOL
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-fraudster-who-fooled-a-whole-nation-portuguese-media-pundit-exposed-as-conman-8459249.html

Yikes
“Fitch Ratings however says it thinks China might be reaching some kind of limit:

The investment-led growth model is running into tightening constraints. The first constraint arises from the ability of the financial system to fund more capital spending in light of the existing scale of leverage and emergent pressure on bank liquidity. The second constraint is that still-higher investment, without a commensurate rise in the already-stratospheric savings rate, would see China running the risk of incurring a structural current account deficit.”

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 1:47 pm
“Four Dutchmen avoid crocs but have an itch”
“They were bitten savagely by sandflies and mosquitoes and were very worried about being eaten by larger things.”

stackja

22 Jan 13 at 1:48 pm
Hilarious: Soetoro slams “nation of takers” in inaugural speech.

This from the man who got elected on a platform of free money and tampons.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 1:49 pm
She had a silly room renovated she calls her “office”

Presumably where she goes to retreat from all your high tech gadgetry, JC!

Rabz

22 Jan 13 at 1:49 pm
Heh, heh, Gab.

I don’t give a rat’s about cushions. But, I care deeply about rugs (not the kind Frank Sinatra wore).

johanna

22 Jan 13 at 1:50 pm
So Gillard has been pressured by the example of Abbott and the Liberals to preselect an actual Aborigine. Welcome to the twenty-first century.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 1:51 pm
Gottliebsen appears to have hallucinogens added to his tea ?:

maybe he forgot the sarc/

Tintarella di Luna

22 Jan 13 at 1:53 pm
I don’t give a rat’s about cushions.

I’ve gone one step further, Johanna and banned the bloody useless things.

They shall never blight my existence again!

Rabz

22 Jan 13 at 1:53 pm
I’m not long back from a mini-shopping expedition, JC. Saw some to-die for cushions, the likes of which I’ve never encountered before. Pity the colours were all wrong HOWEVER, new stock arrives in two weeks!! I’M EXCITED!!

Had my time with rugs too, Johanna. I’m over them for now.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 1:53 pm
Presumably where she goes to retreat from all your high tech gadgetry, JC!

I drove her crazy for about a month or so. I can basically do all sorts of shit from the icon on my ipad.

When she went to bed I’d turn on the TV in the bedroom and later raise the blinds, just when I think she’d be going to sleep.

Not every day… but every second or third day or so.

Drove her mad. I told her about a month later.

This sort of stuff builds character in women.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 1:56 pm
David Friedman did a series of speeches in Europe..

I thought this was a good one.

Market Failure, Considered as an Argument both for and Against Government

And this one shouldn’t be missed.

GlobalWarming, Population and the Problem With Externality Arguments

Last one strongly suggests that mitigation etc through taxes and cap&trade is a crock of shit.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 2:05 pm
Prince Harry is in great danger of making the British Royal family beloved by all right-thinking people. He and his brother are admirable young men. Despite all the shit he cops, I guess one has to give credit to Charles for raising them right.

Not traumatised:

“If there’s people trying to do bad stuff to our guys, then we’ll take them out of the game.”

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 2:05 pm
Fuck and duck, read Gottliebson’s article and have a look at Obama’s proposed tax policies. Then ask who you think might want to propose copying them.

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 2:06 pm
Then this gem from another Gottliebson article:
“To make wind power efficient you need a way of storing it and that is where the electric car is so important.”
What’s he on?

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 2:10 pm
“To make wind power efficient you need a way of storing it and that is where the electric car is so important.”

What’s he on?

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 2:11 pm
“To make wind power efficient you need a way of storing it and that is where the electric car is so important.”

What’s he on?

Prune juice and dementia meds.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 2:11 pm
Well its demented that’s for sure. How you see a connection between wind power and cars with lots of batteries is beyond me. Does everyone wait till it’s windy to plug in the Volt?

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 2:15 pm
Fuck me.

Someone tell Gottliebson that the Detroit motor show was a bust for electric cars. No one wants them.

People were going to petrol cars and bigger engines.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 2:16 pm
“To make wind power efficient you need a way of storing it and that is where the electric… toothbrush comes in.”

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 2:16 pm
Yep, it has been seriously suggested by brain-damaged greenies that whenever there is too much wind power surging through the grid and threatening to wreck it, millions of electric car owners should plug in.

Unbelievable.

The first Greens in the Senate were colloquially known as ‘the fairies at the bottom of the garden’, but they were hard-headed pragmatists compared to the current crop.

johanna

22 Jan 13 at 2:18 pm
Work with me here.

Why not cut out the middle man and attach windmills to all cars?

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 2:21 pm
OMG.

A quick Google confirms that a greeny has patented a windmill car.

Specs, images at the Green Patent Blog.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 2:22 pm
Re choppers and the Taliban, I was reminded of this classic clip at Blair’s back in 2009: WHO’S THE INFIDELS NOW, BITCHES?

The Huey’s arrival is spind-tingling.

Shame Obama lost the war.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 2:25 pm
I’m offended by the relentless cushion-bashing here. I love the things and soon, thanks to Nanny, I will make you all pay.

Tracey

22 Jan 13 at 2:33 pm
“Why not cut out the middle man and attach windmills to all cars.”
Wow, it’ll recharge as you drive! that’s genius

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 2:44 pm
Sounds like a perpetual motion machine.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 2:48 pm
IT, I heard one got invented but the oil companies bought it and destroyed the machine and plans for it. Just imagine how beautiful the world would have been with no more nasty fossil fuel.

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 2:53 pm
“It was probably a classic example of me probably being too much army and not enough prince.”

Prince Harry about his “flasher” episode.

The more I hear about Harry, the more I like this young fellow.

Pedro the Ignorant

22 Jan 13 at 2:56 pm
He’s great, Pedro. Drinks, smokes, kills Muslim terrorists, parties hard and is always looking for action with the chicks. If I hear he also goes the punt, I’ll become a royalist myself.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 3:00 pm
CL is now a Royalist:

Harry at the races.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 3:05 pm
Good stuff on line from Hendo and the Sydney Institute.

The quarterly papers from December, a late call!

Rafe

22 Jan 13 at 3:09 pm
The more I hear about Harry, the more I like this young fellow.

Have a look at the interview if you can.

We saw parts of it over brekkie this morning.

Harry’s contempt for the reptiles of the press is palpable, but no ‘boo hoo – it’s not my fault’ from him.

He says he’s no hero – he’s out there backing up the guys in the field who are the heroes;

he drops the mike and scrambles for his helo when someone fires some shots in the area; and

he has the best mop of hair of any of the males in his family.

Pity his parentage means he can’t take a higher profile on matters of public interest. Very impressive young man.

Myrrdin Seren

22 Jan 13 at 3:13 pm
Full Historic Inaugural Speech

In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

From time to time we’ve been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people.

Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?

CLICK.

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 3:14 pm
If that’s not a liberty quote, well it should be.

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 3:14 pm
TOKYO—Under strong pressure from Japan’s new government, the country’s central bank agreed Tuesday to adopt a 2% inflation target from its current looser 1% goal and strengthened its monetary easing program in a bid to rid the economy of its long-running deflationary pressures.

Expectations of new strong steps by the Bank of Japan 8301.JA -3.58% have already helped to send Japanese stock prices up sharply, with big exporters benefiting from a steep 10% fall in the yen over the past two months. With the BOJ’s announcement, stocks rose, while the yen fell sharply.

Yippee. Come to daddy.

Think about what this means. Japan is currently running a deflation rate of 1% which means the BOJ has a 3% differential to make up.

The monthly money printing will have to be enormous.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 3:22 pm
Thanks, Democrats.

Houses in Detroit now available for a buck.

http://www.news.com.au/realestate/homes-for-1/story-fncq3era-1226559204461

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 3:25 pm
“The monthly money printing will have to be enormous.”
I thought the theory was that when you get the expectations right the money printing is not so great.

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 3:30 pm
haha, lefty reviews Blair’s column:

You words are insulting,you are an ugly bespectacled fat man. the need to drop the poofter line twice shows your to stupid to come up with an other analagy to make your point. Fortunately things have changed since 1973. Being called a poofter has the same feeling as being black prick,or a stupid ugly fat bespectacled prick.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/your_to_stupid/

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 3:32 pm
Makes me wonder whatever happened to Jim Treacher’s biggest fan.

Subj: ypou are a racist
From: Randy Sexer [[email protected]]
To: Me
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:43 pm

Hello, Mr. Treacher,

I’d like to ask you, why do you hate our Black President!?

Its sad, that sometime’s people dont realize what their prejudices do truly define them. Yuo don’t even realiaze how ignorant you are. Sad.
ia
Burn in F***in Hell you Intolertant F***ing Rethuglican sheepletard crackerass hillbily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!Racist

sdog

22 Jan 13 at 3:36 pm
David Coe dead

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/former-allco-chair-david-coe-dies-of-heart-attack-in-aspen-colorado/story-fn91v9q3-1226559321526

Mike of Marion

22 Jan 13 at 3:37 pm
Yep pedro.

But I think there will have to be a years worth of printing and jawboning before people think the boj means what they say.

Just an opinion.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 3:37 pm
Oops. Perris not a member of the ALP

Lazlo

22 Jan 13 at 3:58 pm
Yeah, after decades of relentless deflation one has to expect more relentless deflation. Did you see this chart and post
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/21/january_inflation_expectations_the_evans_rule_at_work.html

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 4:02 pm
CL, that is one of my favourite YouTube clips. Thanks for the memories.

“I’ll see you in hell, mother fuckah!”

Abu Chowdah

22 Jan 13 at 4:08 pm
Oops. Perris not a member of the ALP

Looks like Gillard is happy with the results from the Peter Garrett experiment. The stupid dopes are willing to take the fall for big f**k ups.

Token

22 Jan 13 at 4:13 pm
It seems wimminses bottemsis and other beauteous bits contribute to Global Warming.

H/T the incomparable Tim Blair.

Helen Armstrong

22 Jan 13 at 4:13 pm
So Gillard has been pressured by the example of Abbott and the Liberals to preselect an actual Aborigine. Welcome to the twenty-first century.

Good to see Tony Abbott still inside her head, forcing her to act.

Bolt had some sensible advice – ignore the anti-catholic and other personal rants and just continue holding them to account for the economy and get some positive polices out there.

pete m

22 Jan 13 at 4:16 pm
Yippee. Come to daddy.

Even more yippee – i still get paid on Oz dollars.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 4:16 pm
Oops. Perris not a member of the ALP

Unfuckingbelievable!

Maybe there is still hope for Mal Meninga

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 4:18 pm
This sort of stuff builds character in women.

And would generate a quick night on the sofa for HIA and a diamond-studded apology to Lizzie, Chez Nous. I have pointed out before how your wife is a true angel, JC. Some women are. Not me though.

I am a bad character. Who likes cushions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 4:19 pm
Abbott should draft Warren Mundine as a senate candidate in the NT then it could be like during the cold war when the Ruskies and Americans fought culture wars by proxy through satellite countries.

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 4:34 pm
I hope Warren Mundine joins the Liberal party. What a slap in the face for him from The Slapper.

Tracey

22 Jan 13 at 4:35 pm
Captain’s pick. Why do I immediately think of Larry Pickering?

Steve of Ferny Hills

22 Jan 13 at 4:36 pm
I was going to say gillard would apply the Kiwi Nugget™ to her own mother if it meant more votes but decided not to say that in case it would be judged a racist comment.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 4:39 pm
The incumbent must be a really big fan of Gillard. Not.

She thought her vagina guaranteed her employment in the Senate for life.

But she forgot that an Aborigine with a vagina trumps that, hands down.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 4:39 pm
Bolt makes the case – the obvious, undeniable case – that Gillard has acted illegally in dumping Senator Crossin.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 4:42 pm
you are an ugly bespectacled fat man

Disgraceful.

You’d never witness such an abominable level of discourse on this blog, I tells ya!

Rabz

22 Jan 13 at 4:43 pm
But she forgot that an Aborigine with a vagina trumps that, hands down.

A lesbian Aborigine with a vagina who has converted to Islam would surely be untouchable, then?

papachango

22 Jan 13 at 4:44 pm
I don’t get it. Was Crossin a sitting senator? If so how could the Lying Slapper dump her?

JC

22 Jan 13 at 4:45 pm
Captain’s pick.

Hmmmmm Judging by her previous picks no one she has ever cast a gaze on with a glad eye would be fit to even carry the drinks in a backyard cricket match.

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 4:46 pm
Got it. This is for the next election.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 4:46 pm
Someone suggested Abbott replace the clothes horse with Noel Pearson as GG. I am thinking it would be even more delicious to appoint Warren Mundine.

entropy

22 Jan 13 at 4:49 pm
“But she forgot that an Aborigine with a vagina trumps that, hands down”

Emily’s blacklist anyone?

Pedro

22 Jan 13 at 4:50 pm
A lesbian Aborigine with a vagina who has converted to Islam would surely be untouchable, then?

No, a dsiabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam is the trump.

nic

22 Jan 13 at 4:50 pm
A lesbian Aborigine with a vagina who has converted to Islam would surely be untouchable, then?

Throw in a disability and a previous career as a truck driver and you have the holy grail of victimology.

Rabz

22 Jan 13 at 4:50 pm
Trish Crossing boned by a kneebone.

Tintarella di Luna

22 Jan 13 at 4:51 pm
That’s Crossin – I was thinking about Gillard and Crossing the Line

Tintarella di Luna

22 Jan 13 at 4:52 pm
She could have done better by drafting Anthony Mundine.
At least then she could have sealed a trifecta of minorities: Aboriginal, Muslim, and a big girls blouse.

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 4:52 pm
No, a dsiabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam is the trump.

A disabled lesbian Aborigine who has converted to Islam – AND who was stolen.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 4:53 pm
Relax people. There’s still plenty of time for Nova to come out.

Tracey

22 Jan 13 at 4:53 pm
More importantly that any of this fluff, the entire collection of Leisure Suit Larry is now available for Win7 and OSX.

entropy

22 Jan 13 at 4:54 pm
No, a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and now has a BA in Humanities is the Royal Flush.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 4:54 pm
Oh Gab
Is this the real Gab? – Beautiful

Tintarella di Luna

22 Jan 13 at 4:56 pm
Ha! I wish!! No, Tinta, it’s the most beautiful Rita Hayworth.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 4:58 pm
Isn’t she though good pick Cap’n

Tintarella di Luna

22 Jan 13 at 4:58 pm
A disabled lesbian Aborigine who has converted to Islam – AND who was stolen

Wait a minute guys, it is time you move into the 21st century with your thinking.

Whose to say Julie Crossin doesn’t take the Eatock 9 approach and claim she is all that?

I’d love to see the Labor politicians carpet bomb her and call her a liar like they did Rudd after that announcement. You can bet they’d be brave enough to do it*

* under the protection of the coward’s castle

Token

22 Jan 13 at 4:59 pm
So what else has gillard got cooking in terms of the race card as Australia Day nears?

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 5:11 pm
a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and now has a BA in Humanities is the Royal Flush.

Climate change must be in the mix as well.

Bear Necessities

22 Jan 13 at 5:11 pm
I’d love to see the Labor politicians carpet bomb her

Crossin has gone full retard, suggesting to me that Gillard has again shown poor political judgement and has started an internal party civil war in an election year.

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 5:12 pm
Crossin has gone full retard, suggesting to me that Gillard has again shown poor political judgement and has started an internal party civil war in an election year

I’m shocked.She really is a mendacious bumbling first rate moron.

Steddman is too good for her.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 5:13 pm
Bear Necessities, are you Humphrey’s brother? Welcome to the cauldron.

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 5:13 pm
Bear Necessities, are you Humphrey’s brother? Welcome to the cauldron.

Wow, it’s a good time to be aboriginal,partial or even one of those pretendi ones. You literally get fawned over by the left.

Thank god I from the Olympic Dam tribe.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 5:16 pm
I’m related to the Bundy Bear. Humphrey was too much of a goody too shoes and never spread his TV wealth to us Moocher Bears. I’m a bitter clinger to my Bundy Rum.

Bear Necessities

22 Jan 13 at 5:16 pm
a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions is the Royal Flush.

They ya go, Bear N.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 5:18 pm
Lol

Who the fuck are these morons kidding.

Iran is set to unveil a new “space observatory” that will serve as the centerpiece of its space program, and may launch “living creatures” into orbit “in the coming days,” according to state-run media reports.

The new space base will act as headquarters from which the Iranian military can monitor Tehran’s future “expeditionary space missions,” according to Iran’s defense minister, who was quoted Monday in Iran’s Fars News Agency.

http://freebeacon.com/mullahs-in-space/

JC

22 Jan 13 at 5:26 pm
a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities

lol… except I can think of at least one black lesbian Muslim with a humanities degree who is widely hated by the left.

papachango

22 Jan 13 at 5:27 pm
Sorry, the ex-truck driver bit would disqualify this otherwise ideal hypothetical candidate. Truck driving is productive work, which is not well received in the modern ALP.

squawkbox

22 Jan 13 at 5:28 pm
a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions is the Royal Flush.

They ya go, Bear N.

But wait there’s more…

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 5:30 pm
…and is married to a transgender.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 5:35 pm
JC: Look at that space report, I would guess the opium harvest in Afghanistan was a bumper this year.

Tel

22 Jan 13 at 5:37 pm
Another Gillard masterstroke.

H B Bear

22 Jan 13 at 5:42 pm
and is married to a transgender.

who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 5:43 pm
On a completely different note, what the hell has happened to Prof Bunyip?
It has been 3 weeks since he last posted without giving any indication that he was going away.
I hope that all is well at the billabong.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

22 Jan 13 at 5:43 pm
She survived abuse by a dwarf that took place in a church???

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 5:46 pm
She survived abuse by a dwarf that took place in a church

It’s the ALP, nothing would suprise me.

What that means the ideal candidate is married to an abused tranny dwarf.

If only one of them had a limp, it would be the ideal candidate.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 5:54 pm
Huck, good Prof Bunyip did say he would be away for certain periods this year, but I too hope he is just having a rest and at the same time sorting out some more leftie nonsense to skewer for us when he is ready.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 5:57 pm
But wait there’s more…

Lets not exclude the possibility of them being an amputee with tourettes whilst promoting the furry lifestyle.

“Fuck it’s hot in this Will E Coyote suit trying to turn pages of hansard with a mechanical fucking hand!”

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 5:58 pm
So to identify the ideal ALP Senate candidate they would be;

a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions.

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

married to a transgender.who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf

Who may or may not have a limp.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 5:59 pm
Needs to have been a union rep.

Abu Chowdah

22 Jan 13 at 6:01 pm
Okay, so who’s going to write the grant application for the new opera?

No No Nova could be a working title until someone comes up with something better.

nilk

22 Jan 13 at 6:03 pm
Vegan.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 6:05 pm
Heh. I was just thinking “where’s IT in all this?” And up he pops.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 6:06 pm
“Mzzzzzzzz Macklin said recipients were forced to meet strict criteria to claim the disability pension.

“People do not qualify for the disability support pension because they are illiterate,” the spokeswoman said. “To be eligible for the disability support pension a person must have a permanent disability or medical conditions that make them unable to work.”

I understand. My next question is how does the gummint determine if a sponger suffers “a permanent disability or medical conditions”?

They wouldn’t rely on a doctor’s medical certificate would they? A friendly doctor like, y’ know, the ones who attested to chronic back injuries gifted in those 2 mile an hour rear end car collision insurance claims that were fashionable a few years back? With all members of migrant families similarly affected in the same accident?

They’re a bit like immigration department public servants these doctors – if they’re not meeting their quota of processed scammers (or illegals) then there goes their job – no more income.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 6:17 pm
@Mick. Paging Dr. Howlong….

nilk

22 Jan 13 at 6:21 pm
I was in contact with the Bunyip last week and he indicated he’d be away until February at the earliest. Retired Professors work just as hard, if not harder, than the non-retired Professors.

Sinclair Davidson

22 Jan 13 at 6:22 pm
… survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop…

kae

22 Jan 13 at 6:22 pm
How to burn $15 million.

I can’t see any downside to this debacle.

Steve of Ferny Hills

22 Jan 13 at 6:33 pm
Working at the golf course Sinc?

Tal

22 Jan 13 at 6:33 pm
“This sort of stuff builds character in women.”

Call the counsellors – JC is courting death by ~~cop~~ wife!

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 6:34 pm
survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop.

lol

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 6:36 pm
Yesterday a car was stolen at Helensvale, Qld.
A man stopped to assist a woman in a car which it seemed had broken down. Two men of islander appearance jumped him and stole his one month old limited edition Holden ute.

On the news just now another car stolen at Carina in Brisbane and driven to Gailes after side swiping other vehicles. The occupants tried to carjack another car but the owner managed to stop them. The carjackers were of indigenous appearance. (God, it’s useless searching the TEN news site.)

I don’t know what tribe they’re from, but they should be made members of the Correctional Centre Tribe.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 6:40 pm
survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop…

I concede my befeat.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 6:41 pm
Masterful kae. Not only my hat, but my whole head is off to you.

Tracey

22 Jan 13 at 6:42 pm
So to identify the ideal ALP Senate candidate they would be;

a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions.

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

married to a transgender.who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf

Who may or may not have a limp.

She was also STOLEN.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 6:43 pm
Another photo op for the PM…I saw posted elsewhere that Senate seats are now becoming the equivalent of a baggy green cap. Whilst there is some truth in that, as a Territorian I can say quite comfortably that this is another own goal.

Dianne

22 Jan 13 at 6:49 pm
Ok – the ALP Candidate for the Senate MUST BE;

a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions.

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

married to a transgender.who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf

Who may or may not have a limp.

who also survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop.

and, thank you Abu & IT

Was a cfmeu shop stupid in a wheelchair with flat tires and smelled like wee because the fully organinc wheat free soy based vegan taco clogged the wheels.

Anything else troops?

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 6:52 pm
Someone should ask Harry Jenkins what he thinks about the latest shit sandwich his fearless leader has served up to one of his colleagues?

You think she would have learnt her lesson after the mussel man debacle.

Splatacrobat

22 Jan 13 at 6:53 pm
She was also STOLEN.

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 6:53 pm
Gab

Only dwarf I could think of.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 6:56 pm
Go on, work stolen into the job description, Carpe diem.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 6:59 pm
It was very subtle and very clever, Kae.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 6:59 pm
Apologies, that was an oompa-loompa in the pie shop.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 6:59 pm
” She was also STOLEN.

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

Oh tell me it ain’t so! Please.

What a bloody farce – why didn’t the Lying Slapper simply find a couple of spots to instal Anthony Mundine and Cathy Freeman so we could laugh for a month and a half.

What’s with the now traditional Australia Day stunts? Unbelievable.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 6:59 pm
Have an earlier comment in mod where the transgender also held a prior conviction for a certain kind of trafficking

Rousie

22 Jan 13 at 7:01 pm
Gillard’s backbone was stolen.

stackja

22 Jan 13 at 7:04 pm
You people are killing me, so the ALP Candidate for the Senate MUST be;

a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions.

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

married to a transgender.who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf

Who may or may not have a limp.

who also survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop.

and, thank you Abu & IT

Was a cfmeu shop stupid in a wheelchair with flat tires and smelled like wee because the fully organinc wheat free soy based vegan taco clogged the wheels.

Who as a young child was brutally captured in the night, nay, STOLEN, by pirates and subjected to the deprivations of the common tars in the foc’slele.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 7:10 pm
Gillard’s backbone was stolen.

Aren’t yabbies invertebrates?

Rabz

22 Jan 13 at 7:10 pm
This seems to sum it all up
Dry Bones

The toe bone connected to the heel bone,
The heel bone connected to the foot bone,
The foot bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the head bone,
The head bone connected to the neck bone,
The neck bone connected to the back bone,
The back bone connected to the thigh bone,
The thigh bone connected to the knee bone,
The knee bone connected to the leg bone,
The leg bone connected to the foot bone,
The foot bone connected to the heel bone,
The heel bone connected to the toe bone,

stackja

22 Jan 13 at 7:11 pm
A double-act inauguration
Of stupefying long duration
Brought promises of left agenda:
Obama on extended bender.

Not bad. I haven’t listened to the inauguration altho’ I’m aware of a certain ecstasy among his devoted. Obama has a statue of Lincoln on his desk. So he admires the man who put down the founding stone of the imperial presidency. Since Carter (of course) there’s been an increasingly respected and powerful counterpoint to the authority both of the Justice Department and the SCOTUS. Reagan (of course) made it worse. Dubya was outta control. Obama’s been rained in by counter-movements attempting to reign in executive excess but now…

He wants to be Great this guy, but so far he hasn’t been. The House won’t co-operate but the machinery tilts his way…

I guess one has to give credit to Charles for raising them right.

CL the aristocracy do not raise their own children. So naive.

Adrien

22 Jan 13 at 7:15 pm
Yeah, Rabz.
I don’t think she came with a spine.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 7:15 pm
How to burn $15 million.

I can’t see any downside to this debacle.

Very funny. Lefties really are pockets on singlets.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 7:23 pm
A double-act inauguration
Of stupefying long duration
Brought promises of left agenda:
Obama on extended bender.

I found the best analysis to the Bronco Bama inauguration poem was on Twitchy.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
This poem doesn’t rhyme
So get me a beer

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 7:28 pm
a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions.

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

married to a transgender.who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf

Who may or may not have a limp.

who also survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop.

and was fucking stolen.

How can you people forget that.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 7:35 pm
JC – i did stolen

You people are merciless.

Who as a young child was brutally captured in the night, nay, STOLEN, by pirates and subjected to the deprivations of the common tars in the foc’slele.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 7:53 pm
How to burn $15 million.

I can’t see any downside to this debacle.

Steve of Ferny Hills
22 Jan 13 at 6:33 pm

Where is Attard working now, dare I ask?

Entropy

22 Jan 13 at 7:59 pm
oops… okay sorry. Stolen has to be part of the provenance.

How about dad getting killed in a car accident when young?

JC

22 Jan 13 at 8:00 pm
At last, the real Gab. Sweet!

blogstrop

22 Jan 13 at 8:01 pm
Gillard’s backbone was stolen.

She now has a Kneebone. Boom!!!! Tish.

Bear Necessities

22 Jan 13 at 8:04 pm
Where is Attard working now, dare I ask?

Hopefully washing windscreens at traffic lights.

Infidel Tiger

22 Jan 13 at 8:05 pm
Wait, wait, wait.

… landlord threw them out and she lived in a car….

kae

22 Jan 13 at 8:08 pm
Fine, OK – JC, the criteria just got tougher;

So a Senate candidate MUST be;

a disabled lesbian aborigine who has converted to Islam with a previous career as a truck driver and has a BA in Humanities whose middle name is Gaia and peer reviews IPCC submissions.

Yet, still lives as a “traditional” aboriginal, organises LGBTI knitting circles and named her children Nungunal, Daktari and Fleur.

married to a transgender.who is a survivor of abuse in a church institution and a dwarf

Who may or may not have a limp.

who also survived abuse by a dwarf in a pie shop.

Was a cfmeu shop stupid in a wheelchair with flat tires and smelled like wee because the fully organinc wheat free soy based vegan taco clogged the wheels.

Who as a young child was brutally captured in the night, nay, STOLEN, by pirates and subjected to the deprivations of the common tars in the foc’slele.

Unfortunately the wheelchair bound parent was the victim of their own diet when the flat tyres on the ‘tofu’ chair slowed the vehicle to a point where the mass of a B Double turned the parent from their traditional name of Manawhealnut to their burial name of Shitaflatdik, and so our potential candidate became not just a sexually confused disabled half midget ex-pirate with a fear of pork and Jews but an orphan too.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 8:14 pm
Wait, wait, wait.

… landlord threw them out and she lived in a car….

and went without milk for five whole days.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:21 pm
I guess one has to give credit to Charles for raising them right.

CL the aristocracy do not raise their own children. So naive.

Well, there you go. No credit for the plant whisperer, then.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 8:22 pm
and went without milk for five whole days.

And the milk they eventually had was NUCLEAR!

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 8:25 pm
Bolt and Steve price are running with the Kneebone story.

blogstrop

22 Jan 13 at 8:26 pm
Where is Attard working now, dare I ask?

Her Twiter account describes her as a contributor to CNN and Hoopla. Hoopla appears to be Wendy Harmer’s vanity blog. No money there.

A search of CNN brings up 14 articles, the earliest in July, the latest being 21 November.

She’s certainly got plenty of time to take in some ironing.

Steve of Ferny Hills

22 Jan 13 at 8:26 pm
and went without milk for five whole days

I’m sorry, but you’ve gone too far. S/H/It would be too broken by such trauma to be able to function as a competent senator.

lotocoti

22 Jan 13 at 8:28 pm
It’s very hard keeping up with the ALP personal sob stories.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:28 pm
Scrimgour is mooted as another possibility, but the theory is that Peris is more attractive to voters in the federal (white southern voter)context. No concern for capability or how well the NT will be represented.

blogstrop

22 Jan 13 at 8:30 pm
It’s very hard keeping up with the ALP personal sob stories.

Where is Lizzie – she could make a novel out of this.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 8:32 pm
Warren Mundine? no chance.

blogstrop

22 Jan 13 at 8:32 pm
Ex-ALP minister Gary Johns on Price-Bolt says Gillard’s endorsement of a token Darwin urban Aborigine for the Senate is amateur, won’t make a skerrick of difference to the Labor vote and is part of a “once announcement a day” strategy by McTernan. Bolt, incidentally, reckons it’s a clear breach of the Racial Discrimination Act — the denials in the next 24 hours promise to be spectacularly hypocritical and IDWTDI (It’s Different When They Do It).

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 8:34 pm
Wow. When the First “Lady” isn’t fond of you she really shows it.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:38 pm
What about Ernie Dingo?

He’d be cool as a senator.

He’d never show up – which would make him a role model for these red-cushioned lounge lizards.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 8:38 pm
Either that or it’s a case of ‘don’t get between me and my food’.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:39 pm
God, she’s a toxic, sour shrew.

You can just tell she hates white people.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 8:44 pm
“one announcement a day strategy”. And Peris is not even member of the ALP. Apart from everything else she is, Gillard is a rank amateur who has now got a lot of noses out of joint inside the party. She is a Z-grade politician and she’s not a leader’s bumhole. And she can’t be replaced as the party has destroyed the only viable alternative.

Tom

22 Jan 13 at 8:44 pm
David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog

My inauguration: parading 100,000 fired bureaucrats to the DC city limits, followed by a kegger. #Iowahawk2016

I imagine Burge and IT would get on famously.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:48 pm
Gab,

Is your new gravatar the Shawshank Redemption lady?

Septimus

22 Jan 13 at 8:49 pm
Sept, that’s a pic of me when I was Rita Hayworth.

Gab

22 Jan 13 at 8:51 pm
Yes it is, Septimus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RijTch6B5WE

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 8:53 pm
Gillard is a rank amateur

I couldn’t rank her that high, it would mean she had some semblance of self awareness.

Every day Jock McSporran albosleazy and dancing emmo will be telling her – ‘you’re a star baby – a star’

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 8:53 pm
She has trouble chewing, too.

Shoulda married chewy, er, Chewy.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 8:56 pm
Shoulda married chewy, er, Chewy.

He already has a wife, but the Klingons are always bride hunting.

Carpe Jugulum

22 Jan 13 at 9:17 pm
that’s a pic of me when I was Rita Hayworth

Wow! It’s a good thing Margarita Carmen Cansino modelled herself on you then.

Septimus

22 Jan 13 at 9:27 pm
Looks like the screwtonium virus, as described by Iowahawk, has made its way to Australia. The never-ending series of stuff-ups and markedly dissonant announcements must be due to that. The kneebone is indeed connected …
Link

Blogstrop

22 Jan 13 at 9:30 pm
Carpe – you forgot the essential criteria for a successful career:

- in her youth joined the socialist forum but just as a stenographer

- was lead astray by girly men

- helped her third lover defraud some hick miners

- joined Emily’s List for the networking

- fudged her resume when she was out of work for 6 months

- lived a life of middle class luxury but acquired a lower class accent through sheer determination and hard work

- never exercised a day in her life but demands others eat in moderation and no sugar!

- believes every pc / greenie claptrap but refuses to bring western progress to poor countries to help them out of poverty

I could go on but it is too depressing.

pete m

22 Jan 13 at 9:42 pm
ps JC the maximum child support % of income when they still gave out that info for a totally absent dad to 4 kids was about 30%

pete m

22 Jan 13 at 9:43 pm
Also, Carpe, she must have, at some point, acquired a mental illness as the result of having been wrongfully placed in immigration detention with asylum seekers.

2dogs

22 Jan 13 at 9:46 pm
Yes it is, Septimus:

Thanks for the link CL. She was an amazingly attractive lady. Didn’t know she had early onset Alzheimer’s.

Septimus

22 Jan 13 at 10:00 pm
Lets not diss Nova Peris, Ernie Dingo or Warren Mundine.

Pickles

22 Jan 13 at 10:09 pm
“Wow. When the First “Lady” isn’t fond of you she really shows it.”

and

“God, she’s a toxic, sour shrew.

You can just tell she hates white people.”

plus she’s got the table manners of a pig.

Yet today she was crowned Queen of The 57 States, which makes her classy, just like Carla Bruni-Sarkozy and Spanish Princess Letizia … doesn’t it?

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 10:20 pm
And here’s the link that I do not yet know how to attach

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 10:21 pm
Grrrrr!

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 10:22 pm
I’ll wager the Harlot and the Kilt Lifter tried to get Cathy Freeman first, but had to settle for Nova, Australia’s first heterosexual hockey player.

Infidel tiger

22 Jan 13 at 10:23 pm
The First “Lady” isn’t fond of anyone it seems.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 10:25 pm
Given Gillard’s past form as a deal maker, what are the odds the NT branch says “Sorry slag-features, but you won’t be there this time next year, so we’ll decide who is number one on the senate ticket.”

lotocoti

22 Jan 13 at 10:29 pm
Wonder how Bess Price and Ali Anderson get on with the Olympic Gold Medallist?

Helen, any insight from the Deep North?

Pickles

22 Jan 13 at 10:31 pm
Apologies, that was an oompa-loompa in the pie shop.

So the cops are looking for Bill Shorten?

Abu Chowdah

22 Jan 13 at 10:37 pm
I think Carpe just discovered Lefty repellant.
You should bottle the stuff mate.

Rousie

22 Jan 13 at 10:39 pm
“I’ll wager the Harlot … tried to get Cathy Freeman first, but had to settle for Nova”

neither of whom would have a clue about a legislation or a division or a Cabinet paper (the IKEA assembly instructions perhaps?).

The people smile broadly and applaud … “Oh, Madge, she looks so lovely in that bright yellow dress, don’t you think? Oh my word she does!”, clearly a vital characteristic for a prospective lawmaker, yet the same dills roll their eyes at the prospect of Sarah Palin, a proven performer as State Governor, being elected to a position of power.

I don’t get that.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 10:39 pm
Where is Lizzie – she could make a novel out of this.

I have just scrolled through guys, and I am taking notes. I’m working on the ending, which as we know will not be pretty as our multi-faceted Senatorial heroine becomes embroiled in Labor’s New Byzantium. I am also having a few problems with the mandatory sex scenes trying to incorporate Jock McSporran into the free-floating gendered mix. Seedy incorporation, as we know, requires the Gillard legal touch, so Julia will also feature in a thrilling sub-plot of clapped-out boyfriends, rotting banknotes and false witness.

A real page-turner. Labor motifs running riot from one Australia Day to the next.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 10:44 pm
God, she’s a toxic, sour shrew.

You can just tell she hates white people.

So, this is the sort of overt racism that you lot get up to when all the lefties are doing something more interesting with their time.

m0nty

22 Jan 13 at 10:47 pm
The novel, Lizzie, wouldn’t need any embellishment…. truth is, indeed, stranger than fiction!

kae

22 Jan 13 at 10:48 pm
Cathy Freeman, i’m led to believe, isn’t the smartest sandwich in the picnic basket apparently.

nic

22 Jan 13 at 10:48 pm
Minty -
When the Cat is mockin’ don’t bother knockin’

Rousie

22 Jan 13 at 10:49 pm
Bing is pretty tonight

Anyway Captain said as the tropical storm closed in whilst we were in the pool

‘God they look good – are they floating?

To which I replied What, Your ? or my ?

Anyway terrifically cool now, having watched and experienced the tropical storm come in and pass ( and very mellow subsequent to several very strong pool drinks,) so night to all

And

Did I notice a slight batwing on Michelle when she was dancing the dance to save America? Too many carbs, baby mademoiselle pres

And I wouldn’t put too much on the vote for Nova – Capt’n says might be good for second senate candidate .. CLP

Night

Helen Armstrong

22 Jan 13 at 10:50 pm
No, mUnted.

It’s a statement of what is obvious, it’s not racist to say what you can see. She’s also made statements to that effect in the past – sometime about when her husband was elected she spoke of how the honkies had kept the blacks down and now was time for revenge.

Like saying someone who says that Obamessiah is black is racist. It’s a fact.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 10:51 pm
Glad you had fun in the pool, Helen.

I’m off now to dreamland too. Nighty night Cats.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

22 Jan 13 at 11:03 pm
Hey Monty, do you think it’s possible for black people to be racist toward white people?

John Mc

22 Jan 13 at 11:06 pm
Here’s the police report on the attempted carjacking at Gailes, Brisbane.

kae

22 Jan 13 at 11:08 pm
Lizzie, lizzie

Here is the sex scene. You wrote it while you were thinkin’[ about it.

On opening the door, the scent of rottenness pervades the room. Various so called Independents are tied to objects that gratify their sexual subjugation. When Nanny approaches, whip in hand, Shotte oak cries “yes me, me ,me and whimpers pitifully when she passes on to wayno and his slipper, – deep in the gloom is the hovering shadow of the Gillard Mistress of pain (and Greys all) lashing him (Wayno) salaciously with a glance he gasps after a great in pull of breath – the breath is all he is allowed, a wordless wish for the pleasure Nanny can bequeath,OR withhold -

She (Nanny)looks at him (Wayno) disdainfully (I wish there was a smaller word than this – can you help, Lizzie?)

I lashed better men than you (the short one) into submission treasurer – why would I waste my time? And turns her thoughts to the virginal Andrew and Sinclair tied to a bed together and waiting, valiantly for her pleasure, what pain could she bring them before releasing them?

Economics. Keynesian, and un-free speech and her dressed up in olive green thigh high un-leather boots. And Bob Brown licking them. Heaving breasts. Moistnees. Thrusting nipples. The Little Death, The End.

Helen Armstrong

22 Jan 13 at 11:15 pm
“Here’s the police report on the attempted carjacking at Gailes, Brisbane.”

It was going alright, kae, until the coppers went all eeeeevil racist in the second last paragraph.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

22 Jan 13 at 11:21 pm
My my Helen. You clearly should romp it in as chair of the IPCC.

Lazlo

22 Jan 13 at 11:23 pm
Jock recoiled at the smell of oz sex oozing from the room. It was different from the smell of sex in Scotland,more earthy, less constrained, less Presbyterian. It took a hard moment for him to accustom himself to the scent, doubly hard while his mistress was watching for his reaction.

You’ll do she said. I want you to electioneer for me in the NT. In the communities. It was hard for Jock, bastard that he was to fathom the absolute bastardness of her meaning.

As it sunk on in amongst the gloom that surrounded her he realized what a super shit job he had taken on. Not only did he have to write the spin, he had to walk it, too.

Fuck it he thought, it is just for a day, and think of the gazillions that follow. And he bent his head and felt for the opening, not realising that in doing so he was enthralled for ever. My name is Tim, he thought.

Helen Armstrong

22 Jan 13 at 11:33 pm
Helen and Lizzie started like the Waltons and have now fallen into sin.

Pickles

22 Jan 13 at 11:42 pm
So, this is the sort of overt racism that you lot get up to…

Only poor old Monty could try desperately to switch Michelle Obama’s racism into a charge of racism against the person pointing out her racism.

C.L.

22 Jan 13 at 11:53 pm
Civility….Lol

This past week, Bob Sheiffer of CBS compared defeating the NRA to defeating the Nazis in World War II. Not to be outdone Martin Bashir of NBC said the NRA “…deserved to be compared to Hitler.” Representative Hank Johnson (D-GA) claimed: “…they [NRA] cannot get over the fact that Obama is black.” And the ever reasonable Charlie Rangel (D-NY) in discussing gun control said: “..the Southern states have cultures that we have to overcome.”

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/the_lefts_inability_to_be_civil.html#ixzz2IhzZXK5r
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I/we should be more civil.

JC

22 Jan 13 at 11:56 pm
Only poor old Monty could try desperately to switch Michelle Obama’s racism into a charge of racism against the person pointing out her racism.

Yea, but he’s not racist at at all. But wait…..
Monster says:

Has there ever been a time when you, JC, have had an unshaven face? You’re permanently swarthy. Are you sure you’re not an Ashkenazi Jew? Your resemblance to Eugene Levy is uncanny.

JC, you should be more worried about being mistaken for a Middle Eastern Muslim. There must be an ASIO file on you already as long as your swarthy arm. There’s a spot in a cell in Guantanamo waiting for you and a hose with your name on it.

JC

23 Jan 13 at 12:13 am
Gab’s wonderful new definition of racist behaviour – rolling your eyes and eating (simultaneously). Tell me – had she done one or the other – would that have been racist?
Hilarious.

1735099

23 Jan 13 at 2:03 pm
lol Helen. Sorry I went to bed so soon last night after sketching out a few undeveloped possibilities.

You have taken things to greater heights than achievable by me, stirred only da Ape’s dulcet snoozing. Close to midnight I lacked the impetus to the ‘creative juices’ (shall we say?) provided for you by some serious imbibing and cavorting in a tepid tropic pool with the Captain of various things bobbing about.

Gillard could scorn, sneer at or deride the World’s Best Treasurer, if you want something shorter Helen. In the context, pooh poohing him would do. Or she could just short him.

Sadly, last night, another load of washing put through didn’t quite cut it for me to produce a Commo Red Room of Pain. Although perhaps it should have, come to think of it.

So thanks for that elegantly constructed ‘continuation’. Like the Grail legends, continuations of this theme could go on forever with many contributors. We could all combine to do Gillard a Festschrift in this mode.

As an aside, for long on the Cat we have had The Child Bride and Wifey (and probably others from the men), more recently joined from the girls by Da Hairy Irish Ape, Mr. Midnight, The Captain, and Alice’s Hubby. All rivals to Tim of the Lodge (aka The Hairdresser) any day.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

23 Jan 13 at 2:34 pm
Not to forget The Minister for Finance, Entertainment and WAR.

Pickles

23 Jan 13 at 2:50 pm
The New Power Class Who Will Profit From Obama’s Second Term

Contrary to the conservative claims of Obama’s “socialist” tendencies, the administration is quite comfortable with such capitalist sectors as entertainment, the news media and the software side of the technology industry, particularly social media. The big difference is these firms derive their fortunes not from the soil and locally crafted manufacturers, but from the manipulation of ideas, concepts and images.

Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft are far from “the workers of the world,” but closer to modern-day robber barons. Through their own ingenuity, access to capital and often oligopolistic hold on lucrative markets, they have enjoyed one of the greatest accumulations of wealth in recent economic history, even amidst generally declining earnings, rising poverty and inequality among their fellow Americans.

Last year the tech oligarchs emerged as major political players. Microsoft, Google and their employees were the largest private-sector donors to the president. More important still, tech workers also provided the president and his party with a unique set of digital tools that helped identify potential supporters among traditionally uninformed and disinterested voters, particularly among the young.

An even greater beneficiary of the second term will be the administrative class, who by their nature live largely outside the market system. This group, which I call the new clerisy, is based largely in academia and the federal bureaucracy, whose numbers and distinct privileges have grown throughout the past half century.

Interesting and well informed article.

96% of Donations from the Ivy League Went to Obummer

That’s a USSR-like statistic.

JamesK

23 Jan 13 at 4:38 pm

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