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Wednesday Forum: January 23, 2013

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Written by Sinclair Davidson

January 23rd, 2013 at 12:01 am

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  1. No-one actually cares who’s first.

    Jarrah

    23 Jan 13 at 12:20 am

  2. I care that a new thread begins the moment i finally get around to commenting on the previous thread, not just once, but four times!

  3. Lets begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 12:26 am

  4. Let me be the first to say that Gillard is an idiot.

    nic

    23 Jan 13 at 12:45 am

  5. Let me be the first to say that Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure. SCOAMF.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 12:47 am

  6. Sickth!

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 12:53 am

  7. Let me be the second to say that Gillard is an idiot; and the first to say, contrary to sdog’s view, that the Boy King is succeeding admirably in what He was sent out by His handlers to do.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 12:56 am

  8. Yes Mick. But for America, as opposed to his handlers, Obama is a SCOAMF.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 12:58 am

  9. Ya know Davos used to be interesting in terms of what came out and some of the discourse was pretty enlightening. Now the ‘vironmentals have fucked it beyond recognition.

    Just look at this disgusting crap and despair.

    An unprecedented $14trn (£8.8trn) greening of the global economy is the only way to ensure long-term sustainable growth, according to a stark warning delivered to political and business leaders as they descended on the World Economic Forum in Davos yesterday.

    Only a sustained and dramatic shift to infrastructure and industrial practices using low-carbon technology can save the world and its economy from devastating global warming, according to a Davos-commissioned alliance led by the former Mexican President, Felipe Calderon, in the most dramatic call so far to fight climate change on business grounds.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 12:58 am

  10. Also, I was fifth. Do I get a ribbon for that? If not, I imagine I might have to sue someone.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 1:00 am

  11. Of course all that money has to go to improving the ‘nvirmnt in developing countries. Countries like Mexico in fact. And former Presidents are just the people with enough time on their hands to make sure its done properly.

    entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 1:02 am

  12. When Ben Folds – also of NC and Australia, I might add, a rare and wonderous combination – decides to interpret a typical American rap song, the results are beautiful.

    Bitches Ain’t Shit (do I have to mention it’s NSFW?)

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 1:04 am

  13. I’m offended that I’m not in the top ten. Whom do I sue?

    Cold-Hands

    23 Jan 13 at 1:07 am

  14. Ladies and gentlemen

    I give you the inside scoop at the Globe and Mail. This is what happens when a idiot hires other idiots to run a newspaper.

    A “culture of bullying, nepotism and incompetence”: insiders from Graeme Wood’s philanthropic journalism start-up The Global Mail talk to Crikey about what went so wrong so quickly.

    Many are especially aggrieved by the treatment dished out to 29-year-old Hill, whose Mid-East post was made redundant less than two weeks after having brain surgery to remove a tumour. Sharona Coutts, one of the staffers removed in a pre-Christmas purge, said: “I don’t think there’s any justification for the way they treated Jess Hill. It’s a scandal.”

    Monica Attard got the boot and then look at what happened.

    nsiders who spoke to Crikey agree Attard was not a perfect editor. While her journalistic record was formidable, the ABC veteran had never managed a large team and was a newcomer to online media.

    Still, most staffers were dismayed when she was removed as editor less than three months after the site was launched. The coup, insiders say, was led by CEO Jane Nicholls (a former People magazine editor) and approved by Wood. Attard declined to comment when contacted by Crikey.

    “The way they knifed her was so brutal and so lacking in due process that a lot of us never recovered from that,” one former reporter said. “There was such a lack of trust.”

    Alarm bells, however, really started screeching in June when Nicholls announced via email that Lauren Martin, the site’s former copy editor, would take over as editor. The job was never advertised, quashing many staffers’ hopes that a world-class editor with extensive online experience would be hired.

    “I thought, ‘this is a disaster — she is not qualified’,” Hill said. “I was amazed that with so much journalistic talent on the market in Australia this job had just been gifted to someone whose prior career highlight was editing the Martha’s Vineyard Gazette.” The Gazette, servicing the US resort island of Martha’s Vineyard, has a weekly circulation of around 8500.

    Staffers were also alarmed because Martin is married to Mike Seccombe, the site’s business and politics writer. As Crikey has documented extensively, it’s far from the only personal entanglement among senior staffers. Nicholls, the CEO, is married to national affairs correspondent Bernard Lagan. Nick Olle, the site’s former Latin America correspondent now based in Sydney, is Graeme Wood’s stepson. Sam Bungey, hired as deputy editor in August, had worked with Martin and Seccombe at the Vineyard Gazette. Photography director Mike Bowers — described independently by several insiders as a volatile and influential figure in the organisation — is close friends with Seccombe and Lagan from their days together at The Sydney Morning Herald. Board member Brooke Twyford, who conducted the review that led to the December sackings, worked with Nicholls at Time Inc in the US.

    “A building full of married couples and old friends in the late stages of their careers doesn’t exactly equate to a visionary tinderbox.”

    read it here.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 1:32 am

  15. Lol

    It’s depressing,” said one journalist who left late last year. “It makes me really angry. It was a great opportunity for someone to do something new and different. Instead we ended up with a bunch of refugees from 1990s Fairfax … The dream of what it was going to be ended long ago.”

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 1:36 am

  16. Did anyone else notice something horribly creepy about the inauguration?

    geoffff

    23 Jan 13 at 1:45 am

  17. Hey Monster may be safe.

    Extra Pounds Mean Lower Chance of Death

    A government study shows that people who are overweight are significantly less likely to die in any given period than people of normal weight. WSJ Health Journal columnist Melinda Beck joins Lunch Break with details.

    http://live.wsj.com/video/extra-pounds-mean-lower-chance-of-death/454EF522-22FD-44DF-9756-7B610CAF3202.html?mod=WSJ_article_outbrain&obref=obnetwork#!454EF522-22FD-44DF-9756-7B610CAF3202

    No, no no. Just kidding. Just a few pounds is fine

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 2:01 am

  18. No-one actually cares who’s first.

    Good because I have never been first.

    kelly liddle

    23 Jan 13 at 3:00 am

  19. As forecast, Gillard has started an ALP civil war over her decision to impose a Senate candidate on the Northern Territory branch:

    JULIA Gillard has risked a backlash from Labor members and stoked internal divisions after moving to dump long-serving senator Trish Crossin and install Olympian Nova Peris as the candidate to become the party’s first indigenous federal member.
    The Prime Minister said yesterday she had made a “captain’s pick” by inviting Ms Peris to join the ALP and seek preselection for the Senate for the Northern Territory. “I have made the decision, and that’s it,” she said….
    …The national executive is today expected to sign off on Ms Peris’s admission to the party and waive rules preventing her preselection. Next week, it is expected to meet to centrally preselect Ms Peris, who is not yet an ALP member, as the party’s No 1 Senate candidate in the Northern Territory.
    “I believe Nova will make a great contribution in the federal parliament, for the Labor Party, for the Northern Territory and for the nation,” Ms Gillard said, standing alongside the 41-year-old Ms Peris in Canberra.
    Ms Gillard’s decision to impose Ms Peris vetoed a planned preselection ballot between Senator Crossin and another indigenous politician, the former NT Labor deputy chief minister Marion Scrymgour, a critic of the federal intervention in indigenous communities who, sources said, was unlikely to win the ballot.
    Internal critics of the Prime Minister described the decision as “ill-judged” and a reaction to the backlash against her decision to prefer Bob Carr’s nomination for the Senate over indigenous ALP member Warren Mundine when NSW senator Mark Arbib quit last year.

    Here’s the idiocy of Gillard’s decision: Peris is from Darwin; remote tribal Aborigines swung last year’s NT election for the CLP because they had been ignored by the Labor territory government in Darwin and rebelled. Gillard now looks like she is disenfranchising tribal Aborigines again as well as pissing off the Darwin ALP machine (Crossin used to be the local Trades Hall boss).

    But there’s more: Crossin is a Rudd supporter and wanted Gillard knocked off last year.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 3:35 am

  20. Australia, real life:

    Mr O’Farrell has asked the NSW parliament’s law and justice committee to examine whether anti-discrimination laws dealing with complaints about serious racial vilification constitute “a realistic test” and have kept up with public expectations… Mr O’Farrell has noted that there has not been a successful criminal prosecution since the laws came into operation in 1989…

    Bolt asked why Mr O’Farrell didn’t simply “set a quota of how many racists he wants hauled before the courts?”

    Atlas Shrugged:

    “Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against – then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

    Quoted from Roger Kimball’s lastest post:

    Ayn Rand and the criminalization of everyday life.

    An excerpt from the post:

    I’ve found that as I get older I become more and more libertarian, which I suppose means in part that I am more and more sympathetic to John Galt. Why? I’m sure there are several reasons. One is the increasing bureaucratization of life in this country, the progress of what Tocqueville called “Democratic Despotism,” i.e., the insidious proliferation of rules and regulations (and their concomitant rulers and regulators) that we’re told are being put in place for the commonweal but in fact are really put in place to squelch individual liberty and solidify state control over our lives.

    Examples are too numerous to linger over: imagine a country in which legislators tell you can no longer buy incandescent light bulbs but must henceforth purchase ones that contain a toxic substance and give off a sepulchral, Eastern-European-under-Communism sort of grimy light. Imagine a country in which other legislators (or perhaps they’re the same ones) are proposing to fit all new cars with a “black box” that will record where you’ve been, how fast you got there, and perhaps even what you had to drink before you got behind the wheel.

    Amazing that we put up with it, no?

    And this is the proverbial tip of the iceberg.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 3:43 am

  21. Green mouthbreathers are rejoicing because the electricity tax has helped push the non-mining economy into recession, caused tax revenue to dive and underlined Labor’s recklessness and incompetence with money:

    CARBON emissions from the electricity sector have dived in the first six months under the carbon tax, with much greater use of renewable energy and cutbacks in consumption.

    While the government believes the 8.6 per cent fall in carbon emissions shows its policies are working, it also means it will collect less from the tax than the $4 billion it anticipated this year.

    The drop in revenue comes after the minerals resource rent tax, forecast to raise $2bn this year, failed to raise any revenue from the big three miners in the first six months of the year.

    Total emissions from the electricity sector in the December half were 7.5 million tonnes lower than in the same half of 2011.

    The government cautions that a big abatement task remains, cutting total emissions by 33 million tonnes from 2011 levels by 2020. The fall in electricity demand was not anticipated by the Australian Energy Market Operator and is unlikely to have been included in Treasury’s budget forecasts.

    Tubbsy Milne has wrecked the Tasmanian economy and won’t rest until the mainland economy is a basket case, too.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 3:56 am

  22. Turns out the thug up on charges over the Sydney muslim riot is a welfare cheat:

    WHILE the taxpayer supports accused rioter Omar Halaby, he spruiks about terrorism and illegal drugs on his Facebook page – and even does the odd day’s work on a construction site, despite receiving a disability pension.

    Now it is understood Community Services Minister Jenny Macklin will review the 19-year-old’s case after he bragged on the social network site about being employed.

    The Padstow man, who was one of seven people charged for his role in last September’s Muslim riot in the CBD, claims to have learning and physical disabilities from a past football injury that prevent him gaining employment.

    But The Daily Telegraph can reveal that, while Halaby is collecting a $200-a- week pension, he works as a sub-contractor on a construction site.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 4:07 am

  23. The Gillard rabble puts an ex-union thug in charge of telecommunications — yeah, that went well…

    FOUR months after claiming he was so powerful he could force telco bosses to wear red underpants on their heads to win the bid for the mobile phone network space, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has been left red-faced.

    Two of the three main telcos have pulled out or expressed serious concerns over the $3 billion-plus sale of digital spectrum – trumpeted by Mr Conroy as the “waterfront property” of the mobile phone industry.

    Supporting the next generation of 4G mobile phones, the spectrum was also considered a key revenue raiser for the cash-strapped Gillard government under its now-abandoned budget surplus.

    In September, Senator Conroy told a conference in New York telecommunications regulation was a federal matter and he was in charge.

    “If I say to everyone in this room: ‘If you want to bid next week in our spectrum auction, you’d better wear red underpants on your head’, I’ve got some news for you. You’ll be wearing them on your head. I have unfettered legal power,” he said.

    Spectrum bidders must register by tomorrow to remain in the hunt – but they can still pull out before the auction in April.

    Communication analysts yesterday expressed concerns about a lack of competition amid industry fears a high sale price may pass costs on to consumers or restrict investment in 4G technology.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 4:18 am

  24. The installation of Nova Peris as lead senate candidate must be applauded on the grounds that she is:
    1. Not a union hack
    2. Not a party machine person
    3. Not a former staffer

    It really is remarkable that a person without any of these “key Labor values” would be nominated to a safe slot in the senate.

    Without meaning to be offensive to Ms Peris I’m not sure what she brings to the table aside from her Aboriginality. I think we should be thankful that we can identify her as Aboriginal ourselves. There are no doubt many self-identifying Aboroginals of the left who would love to have been the first Aboriginal Labor Senator. Indeed I wonder if the PM was provided with a colour chart of potential candidates, Peris seems a name out of left field though I suppose most of the self identifying crowd are found in the inner suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne as far a walkabout from their coloured relatives as they can get.

    Now this will no doubt be trumpeted as a masterstroke by Gillard by the capable women of the press gallery and the girly men they work with. In one sense it is. Gillard will be remembered as the Labor PM who made room for the party’s first Aboriginal Senator. This is one aspect of her legacy that can never be taken from her. Long after the mining tax and carbon tax are gone, fair work is legislated into history Gillard will still have this to her name.

    But how will it work out? Peris is the Captain’s pick. What happens when the captain moves on? Well one certainty is that Peris will not hold top billing for a second term. She doesn’t have the Labor pedigree, let alone the numbers. So we may find a situation where Gillard is gone yet Peris remains, unloved by Labor as nothing more than the legacy of a failed PM. Should the senate numbers hang on a vote this could really be quite useful. Indeed what’s to stop Peris sitting as an independent and voting with a coalition government in exchange for a legacy of herownand not just as a footnote in the Gillard memoirs.

    Could it be that the latest Gillard masterstroke is just as masterful as all those that have gone before?

    Super D

    23 Jan 13 at 4:42 am

  25. Freezing week in New York. Currently -7 C with every day this week forecast below 0 C. Low forecast this evening, -11 C. I believe Al Gore has just flown in.

    dover_beach

    23 Jan 13 at 5:00 am

  26. Terrible news for Anglophiles

    Britain has been lost.

    geoffff

    23 Jan 13 at 5:26 am

  27. Re the BOF and NSW racial vilification laws, all he is calling for at this stage is an inquiry. He can still jump any way with this, e.g. he might be looking to repeal them. Don’t prejudge him on an interpretation of what he has said so far.

    Ask yourself this: what would an honest, apolitical inquiry into the questions he has asked actually come back with?

    2dogs

    23 Jan 13 at 6:29 am

  28. What are the odds that Peris will change her mind?

    face ache

    23 Jan 13 at 6:33 am

  29. Geoffff, that was one of the saddest columns I have read in years.

    Winston Smith

    23 Jan 13 at 6:43 am

  30. I’d give odds of 6-1. She didn’t handle the question of her ALP membership too well. If the press hounds her, likely she will drop out.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 6:50 am

  31. Gillard & Nova – It’s all about track records & contributions

    jules

    23 Jan 13 at 6:51 am

  32. Dan, “If the press hounds her…”
    Guess what’s not going to happen?
    That’s right, Gillard will be lauded to the heavens for her great negotiating skills.

    Winston Smith

    23 Jan 13 at 6:54 am

  33. Oh, yeah, we’ve seen a lot of hounding since 2007. Of the Opposition.

    Blogstrop

    23 Jan 13 at 6:59 am

  34. Belmont Club has a post on the Algerian operation.
    Among the comments, charles at 8 says that google has shut down the Gates of Vienna blog.
    Link

    Blogstrop

    23 Jan 13 at 7:16 am

  35. Yeah, Blogstrop, but Gates has moved. The Baron saw it coming.

    :)

    nilk

    23 Jan 13 at 7:26 am

  36. I’m last for the moment. Do I get a ribbon for participation from the luvvies so my feelings arn’t hurt.

    johninoxley

    23 Jan 13 at 7:35 am

  37. “As forecast, Gillard has started an ALP civil war over her decision to impose a Senate candidate on the Northern Territory branch”

    On the radio last night it may have been Bolt who said that all the time spent talking about whether Abbott is or is not a misogynist is time not spent talking about the real issues like the economy and the quality of governance etc – “and we just spent an hour on Abbott…”

    Now we will all be talking about Nova instead of the real issues.

    Rafe

    23 Jan 13 at 7:52 am

  38. TLS is making a speech, I wonder if she’ll address what plans are in place to repay the debt or will she be still channeling the drunken sailor?

    Does the first will be last work here?

    Tintarella di Luna

    23 Jan 13 at 8:04 am

  39. Wow. When the First “Lady” isn’t fond of you she really shows it.

    Gab, from the Old Fred. I looked at that little snippet, and I’ve been a parent too long – the First Wookie has her elbow on the table. That’s a hanging offence in my household.

    nilk

    23 Jan 13 at 8:08 am

  40. I agree with Rafe.

    It is something the Coallition needs to take into account, and highlight. Quickly address it (sexism, misogyny, racism etc) and then talk about the economy, carbon tax, deficit etc….

    It might even be worth highlighting during press conferences that is what Gillard is doing. “The PM raises this issue to avoid the issue of ……”.

    Attack her for it, then go to important issues. I would have publicly called her out for her ‘misogynist lies’ immediately.

    dianeh

    23 Jan 13 at 8:14 am

  41. PM’s fake feminism is man made

    Perhaps the brutal political realm is no place for nuanced debates about men and women. Presumably, that is how Gillard and her fellow gender warriors such as Tanya Plibersek and Nicola Roxon justify their almost daily determination to portray Abbott, the happily married man with three confident daughters, as a woman-hating ogre. But if we accept the premise that it is just politics, then don’t we also need to accept the logical next step — that these Labor women have chosen to balance a fraudulent feminist chip on their shoulder whenever it suits their political purpose?

    RTWT

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 8:16 am

  42. http://www.smh.com.au/world/hurry-up-and-die-japans-deputy-pm-tells-old-folk-20130123-2d5uf.html

    Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    Max

    23 Jan 13 at 8:17 am

  43. She didn’t handle the question of her ALP membership too well. If the press hounds her, likely she will drop out.

    No, Peris did not. If Gillard was not there next to her she would’ve been eaten live by the press over that answer.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 8:37 am

  44. I wonder if Peris has read the Olympic Creed:

    The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.

    It seems like she has abandoned the core principles of Olympic values by having her opponents kneecapped and taken out of the competition (preselection) rather than battle properly for the priviledge of Senate.

    Thumbnail

    23 Jan 13 at 8:37 am

  45. Now we will all be talking about Nova instead of the real issues.

    Reading this article from the Oz, it is clear someone in the Coalition understands and is not missing the obvious opportunity:

    LABOR has hit the panic button by dumping long-serving senator Trish Crossin, Coalition sources say.

    “They’ve exposed all their fears,” one opposition strategist said yesterday.

    “Not only are they afraid of losing their Senate spot in the Northern Territory. They are desperate to shore up their numbers because they fear losing other Senate places to the Greens.”

    Seems like Christian Kerr intends to work this year. 2 good articles in 2 days.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 8:43 am

  46. Worst government everrrrrrrr…..

    The Cabinet Ministers who cut their teeth in ambulance chasing law firms and seem to believe their job is to create more “rights” for those same firms to use to get rich have been able to open another revenue stream:

    A GROUP of Australian lawyers is preparing to sue the federal government on behalf of as many as 48 Indonesian youths who were held in adult prisons after being arrested for crewing asylum boats.

    The action has the support of Indonesia’s human rights commission, Komnas HAM, the child protection commission and House of Representatives commission responsible for foreign affairs and defence. The planned civil action will seek compensation, so far unspecified, and a formal apology from the Australian government to the 48 youngsters. They were identified by an Australian Human Rights Commission report last July as having been aged under 18 yet charged and then held in adult prisons for an average of more than six months before being released without conviction.

    Recap: This amoral government’s unwinding of the border policies has:

    1. Killed 1,000 people,
    2. Lead to a flood of at least 30,000 illegal arrivals, which the people in non-luvvie suburbs are left to deal with
    3. it also has opened the country to an endless string of law cases on the basis of the new “rights” which have been infringed.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 8:49 am


  47. Re the BOF and NSW racial vilification laws, all he is calling for at this stage is an inquiry. He can still jump any way with this, e.g. he might be looking to repeal them. Don’t prejudge him on an interpretation of what he has said so far.

    Ask yourself this: what would an honest, apolitical inquiry into the questions he has asked actually come back with?

    2dogs
    23 Jan 13 at 6:29 am

    That’s not how government works, 2Dogs.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 8:53 am

  48. “No, Peris did not. If Gillard was not there next to her she would’ve been eaten live by the press over that answer.”

    I suspect this cunning stunt by Comrade the Lying Slapper may just turn to porridge, for the reason mentioned above and because she’s shafted one of their own, again.

    I wouldn’t bet on the bogan’s newest bestie being “eaten alive by the press” – it will be all “lovely Nova, she’s a mummy you know” for a bit but the revenge of the party members and of the local aboriginal activists will play out over time.

    Further, Missy Nova may well have under-estimated the nasty nature of the game and over-estimated her ability to handle it. From what I read she’s had no background in politics, just a lot of applause years ago for running and jumping and stuff.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 9:03 am

  49. Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    Unfriggingbelievable.

    Rabz

    23 Jan 13 at 9:06 am

  50. Re Nova Peris

    You get the feeling that the original idea came from the inner city labor members (e.g. Albanese, Plibersek etc) to shore up their vote in their electorates. But wouldn’t of been easier to get the aboriginal challenger to Crossin in the preselection to be the candidate? But Nova is known on the eastern seaboard that is why she got the gig. Spin over substance thrown in with backstabbing confirms the personality of our PM.

    Bear Necessities

    23 Jan 13 at 9:11 am

  51. Once again Gillard takes what could have been a triumph of sorts and stuffs it up by going about it in such a cack-handed way.

    And once again it looks like something that’s been calculated to the nth degree rather than being done with any sort of true conviction.

    MDMConnell

    23 Jan 13 at 9:14 am

  52. Token – it is not a “new right” that a child not be restrained within an adult prison. This has only been on the statute books since we imported the common law with us.

    What is new is that this government is so incompetent that it doesn’t care that kids are being shacked up with adults, it doesn’t care that intellectually disabled are being treated like adults and it doesn’t care to provide mental health treatment when someone is regularly trying to suicide.

    We judge a society on how it treats the most vulnerable, and on this count, Australia has badly failed itself.

    1 case we have been involved in was a young adult Iranian with a mental age of 4 was treated like an insolent adult and beaten by guards and other prisoners, sexually abused and then put in solitary confinement for 59 days straight. We got him out and into a mental health hospital and now the govt has to pay half a mil for his future care needs. Geniuses.

    but what sort of society do we live in when this fellow can be treated in this manner.

    By all means lock them up and then send them back. But while in our care, exercise care.

    Imagine your 4 year old child being put in solitary for 59 days – a toilet sized cubicle with a light on for only 2 hours.

    pete m

    23 Jan 13 at 9:17 am

  53. I suspect this cunning stunt by Comrade the Lying Slapper may just turn to porridge, for the reason mentioned above and because she’s shafted one of their own, again.

    She is the gaffe-machine after all. Nearly every time Gillard uses her “judgement” a disaster results.

    But wouldn’t of been easier to get the aboriginal challenger to Crossin in the preselection to be the candidate?

    I thought that as well as it would pay lip service to due process & achieve similar objectives.

    Further, Missy Nova may well have under-estimated the nasty nature of the game and over-estimated her ability to handle it.

    Don’t underestimate Peris, she was able to get a gold medal in one Olympic event (Hockey) in ’96 and another (the relay) in ’00.

    What you can also learn from that history is Peris does not appear to be a very good team player and will abandon team mates if she sees something to benefit her personally.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 9:32 am

  54. Rabz, the thing is, societies like Japan have conjured up a ‘problem’ at the end of life only because they are experiencing a ‘problem’ at the beginning; too few children.

    dover_beach

    23 Jan 13 at 9:33 am

  55. Maybe the press hounding her was an incorrect turn of phrase, but surely they will hammer her on policy issues, her morals and reasoning behind the move into parliament? We expect nothing less

    Seriously though….

    I got the impression Mal Meninga quit because he couldn’t handle sticking to a predetermined script, I think Nova will find it equally difficult. As has been noted, she doesn’t have any experience in the beast that is daily politics and trying not to step on any toes will catch her out before the NT branch of the ALP get to her.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 9:33 am

  56. What you can also learn from that history is Peris does not appear to be a very good team player and will abandon team mates if she sees something to benefit her personally.

    If memory seves me right, this is why she quit the hockey team. Her peers couldn’t stand the silver spoon, overwhelming sense of her own self worth and the playing of the race card.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 9:36 am

  57. “Don’t underestimate Peris, she was able to get a gold medal in one Olympic event (Hockey) in ’96 and another (the relay) in ’00.”

    I’d have John Sattler as our local member if sporting achievement was the assessment criteria! And he is a Mighty Rabbitoh to boot.

    Nah, that sports star stuff doesn’t wash, as much as I’m a lifelong sports fan – probably because, ‘cos you get to see up close what they are NOT good at.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 9:37 am

  58. Imagine your 4 year old child being put in solitary for 59 days – a toilet sized cubicle with a light on for only 2 hours.

    That is horrible Pete M, absolutely horrible…

    …and comparing a 4 year old with teenagers who are specifically chosen by organised criminals to traffic humans to cause trouble over this law is is pretty shabby.

    Who do you think you are talking with?

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 9:39 am

  59. … it doesn’t care to provide mental health treatment when someone is regularly trying to suicide.

    Yea right. Get the bleeding heart psychs in. They can tag team with you bleeding heart ambulance chasers.

    Of course they are “regularly” trying to suicide. Think about that. They try it regularly. Yet they are somehow still alive to claim compo. With your help of course.

    They are scamming the taxpayers, aided and abetted by pricks like you.

    jupes

    23 Jan 13 at 9:40 am

  60. If memory seves me right, this is why she quit the hockey team. Her peers couldn’t stand the silver spoon, overwhelming sense of her own self worth and the playing of the race card.

    You remember her as well as I do then. The ’96 team triumph was twisted into an individual victory and the team was very angry.

    She’ll fit in well with the Emily’s Listers in the modern Labor Party.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 9:43 am

  61. A celebrity showpony!

    A Lurch re-run?

    Maybe she can sing as well.

    Rafe

    23 Jan 13 at 9:50 am

  62. I lived in Darwin for the period 1968 to the Cyclone in 1974.

    Territorians absolutely despise ‘southerners’ who try to impose their will on Territorians.

    As I see it, the CLP candidates for the Senate might end up with two quotas!!

    mike

    Mike of Marion

    23 Jan 13 at 9:54 am

  63. Borderline vacuous. Interview with Andrew Denton

    Now, I know your Aboriginality means a great deal to you, and you’re a treaty ambassador for ATSIC. What does that involve?

    Nova Peris: Um, just pretty much all… Well, actually, I became involved in it a couple of years ago, and the more…every day in life, it’s not like I sit down and read books. You know, I go out and I’m a grass-roots person. I sort of started down and I build my way up, and I think it’s really sad that we are the only country in the Commonwealth where there was a first nation’s people, and a treaty had never been signed with the first nation’s people. And when you look at Canada, where there’s over 350 treaties, in the USA, there’s over 250 treaties there with its indigenous peoples, um, you know, Australia is going towards, in terms of more people are aware of the injustices in the past, they’re walking over bridges for reconciliation… But, um, being a treaty ambassador, it’s creating awareness.

    Andrew Denton: And are people receptive?

    Nova Peris: Very receptive. Like, I speak to, um…on my way to travel, um, air hostesses. They’re like, “What are you doing?” sort of thing. And then when you tell them about certain issues, they’re, like, quite embarrassed about treatment of Aboriginals over, you know, the last couple of hundred years and all the injustices.

    Andrew Denton: Do you support that leadership?

    Nova Peris: Well, I mean, if you’re a leader, um, like me being an ambassador, you’ve got to know where you stand, and that’s a responsibility you have to take. So, where I stand, it’s just me trying to create awareness of… you know, and fighting when it comes to indigenous rights. You know, the Australian public don’t lose 200 years, but they gain 40,000 years of true history. And in terms of, you know, ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’, when I was overseas just speaking to English people, that just heartened people in the world. They’re like, “Well, we never knew Australia was like that.” And to be honest with you, Australia has a great hidden shame, you know? And it needs to be said in terms of our Constitution. You know, that’s a shame. It was 1901 when that was written up and it doesn’t even shape where our country is at the moment, you know?

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 9:56 am

  64. societies like Japan have conjured up a ‘problem’ at the end of life only because they are experiencing a ‘problem’ at the beginning; too few children.

    Too true, Dover.

    Japan is a bust. Demographic death spiral.

    Rabz

    23 Jan 13 at 9:56 am

  65. So it turns out Peris is a person of poor character. How on earth could that have happened?

    Backlash grows over PM’s decision to push Nova Peris for NT Senate spot

    JULIA Gillard says the fact that Senator Trish Crossin was a Rudd supporter had nothing to do with her ousting in favour of indigenous Olympian Nova Peris.

    “All of that is completely irrelevant,” the Prime Minister told ABC radio today, amid a growing internal backlash over her decision to push Ms Peris to the top of the Northern Territory Senate ticket.

    “This was about my desire to ensure that Labor had within its caucus (people) representing … indigenous Australians.”

    Labor Senator Doug Cameron, a fellow Kevin Rudd supporter, attacked the decision, accusing Ms Gillard of a “pretty brutal exercise of political power”.

    “I think simply a night of the long knives against a senator who has given the party a long-term commitment, a very effective commitment, is not a good message,” he told ABC radio.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 9:59 am

  66. What you can also learn from that history is Peris does not appear to be a very good team player and will abandon team mates if she sees something to benefit her personally.

    Sorry, Ric Charlesworth would not have allowed to play in the national team for 8 or so years if that were so.

    She was one of the best in her team, and when she stepped down, they still won in 2000 – whilst she won a relay gold. I don’t think she let anyone down in that regard.

    Of course she is independently minded, I agree.

    I hope she takes up the preselection, gets her quota and resigns her (new) ALP membership.

    What she needs to see is the rottenness of the ALP/Greens alliance and what it means for Aborigines – no development. A gaffe here or there from Bob Carr wouldn’t go astray.

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 10:02 am

  67. Borderline vacuous. Interview with Andrew Denton

    ???

    What mistake?

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 10:08 am

  68. Israeli elections preliminary results and analysis here.

    geoffff

    23 Jan 13 at 10:09 am

  69. Demographic death spiral

    Rabz

    E.M. Smith had another of his wide-ranging pieces that touched on this subject too the other day.

    He starts talking about long-dated debt maturities and links to a story from Seekingalpha:

    Between 2020 and 2045, however, the infertility of Southern Europe will catch up with it, and the elder dependent ratio will rise to over 60%–an impossible, unmanageable number.

    So he goes looking at a site ( Populationpyramid.net ) that graphs national demographic profiles.

    And then describes the resulting chart for Greece:

    Those two small white squares are on the 20-24 age bracket and say they have 2.7% women in that group. Another 3.3% up to age 30. That’s 6% in the most likely child bearing years.

    That’s it for Greece. They won’t have enough workers to support the social welfare state; they won’t have enough workers to care for the frail, aged and infirm; and they definitely will not be able to pay their debts.

    Japan can see the writing on the all too:

    The state pension fund has become a net seller of government bonds as the aging effect reaches a critical point. Japan’s banks have become the buyers or last resort instead, pushing their holdings to 85pc of GDP. The result is to starve small firms of credit.

    And I found this comment, quite amazing when you think about it, in a Macquarie Bank report ( no link ):

    China’s working age population (15-59 years) began to contract last year, according to the latest data from the NBS. This marks the beginning of a trend that will accelerate over the next two decades, at least, and could have profound implications for aggregate growth rates and labour cost inflation in the world’s second-largest economy,

    And they wonder why Asian people are saving like crazy for their old age !

    Myrrdin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 10:24 am

  70. Well, um, you know, so there is, um, like a tendency to, you know, rely on, um, certain, ah, um crutches in her speech, so, like, you know, it diminishes her, um, you know… The ability to convey, you know, like, the way she feels so, um, you know, it’s there in the way she speaks without the, ah, like you know um conviction

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 10:47 am

  71. Terrible news for Anglophiles

    Britain has been lost.

    Britain’s final day as a real country was when they agreed to hand back Hong Kong. A proper Britain would have told the Chinks they could have Hong Kong after they took London.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 10:49 am

  72. The thing the moochers always leave out when they start talking up the Gillard rabble’s electability is their track record for at least one giant self-inflicted stuff-up per calendar month, which hasn’t taken a holiday for Christmas-New Year.
    December 2012: surplus abandoned.
    January 2013: pre-selection war.
    (Not to mention Conroy’s telco spectrum stuff — see upthread)
    And it’s a long list.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 10:51 am

  73. “And in terms of, you know, ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’, when I was overseas just speaking to English people, that just heartened people in the world. They’re like, “Well, we never knew Australia was like that.””

    Somone explain that Rabbit Proof Fence is a pack of lies that was repudiated by the actual person who was depicted in the drama. Clive James copped a storm of abuse when it filmed in the UK. Thanks a mill Noycie!

    Rafe

    23 Jan 13 at 10:52 am

  74. Token – I am not comparing anything. I’m giving just 1 example of how appalling it is to put teenagers, mentally handicapped and others in a prison system designed for adults and filled with adults.

    I don’t know who I’m talking to apart from your screen name “Token”. Should I know more from that?

    jupes – the only way to change behaviour is to punish by embarassing them with these sort of claims. Nothing else works with govt – try running a petition, campaign, media, etc. Nothing else works. The only time they act / change how they treat people is with these claims. And they are done pro bono unless costs are awarded.

    pete m

    23 Jan 13 at 10:54 am

  75. Re the BOF and NSW racial vilification laws, all he is calling for at this stage is an inquiry. He can still jump any way with this, e.g. he might be looking to repeal them. Don’t prejudge him on an interpretation of what he has said so far.

    Ask yourself this: what would an honest, apolitical inquiry into the questions he has asked actually come back with?

    That is so sweet 2Dogs. Your face must light up with joy every Christmas morning when you see what old Saint Nicholas has stuffed in your stocking.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 10:54 am


  76. But wouldn’t of been easier to get the aboriginal challenger to Crossin in the preselection to be the candidate?


    My understanding is the indig preselection candidate has been rather outspoken about he intervention in ways that would not play well in communities outside the well heeled suburbs of Darwin. Hence the need for an indig outsider.

    entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 11:30 am

  77. Sir David Attenborough calls for less blacks in the world:

    David Attenborough – Humans are plague on Earth.

    “We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now,” he told the Radio Times…

    We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case.”

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 11:33 am

  78. 0.2% CPI for the December quarter.

    Sinc to rehash his stagflation post in 3… 2… 1…

    m0nty

    23 Jan 13 at 11:34 am

  79. CNN Journalist fanboi writes Obama a letter… every single day for 4 years.

    Nothing creepy about that.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 11:35 am

  80. They call it the Green Deal. It’s the British Coalition government’s “flagship energy efficiency project.” Here’s how it works:

    The new programme enables home owners to take out a loan up to £10,000 to make their house more energy-efficient, which they then pay back gradually through the savings on their fuel bills.

    Number of British households that have signed up: 5.

    Only five households sign up to Coalition’s flagship energy project.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 11:37 am

  81. We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case.”

    No one has ever starved to death in a democracy you stupid old cnut. I hope an elephant tramples you to death.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 11:37 am

  82. Strike a light.

    A rather large Australian lad is about to set an NFL record:

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/monstar-set-to-ink-professional-deal-20130122-2d58h.html

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 11:40 am

  83. Good Yuval Levin post:

    JohnB

    23 Jan 13 at 11:40 am

  84. JohnB

    23 Jan 13 at 11:41 am

  85. I remember someone on here telling me that NFL players were pussies compared to NRL player:

    He was born weighing 4½ kilograms at Brisbane’s Mater hospital. Last year, he bench-pressed 272.5 kilograms. The Australian NRL record is 225kgs.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 11:43 am

  86. JC, if you’re there, so much for that Japanese inflation target
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/22/bank_of_japan_punts_on_higher_inflation_target.html

    “Sir David Attenborough calls for less blacks in the world”

    He’s clearly being stupid, but that’s a pretty uncharitable interpretation of what he said. Attenborough is hardly the only malthusian hand-wringer around.

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 11:43 am

  87. It’s not uncharitable at all.

    All of the white countries have no problem feeding themselves. All of them without exception. He’s referring exclusively to black countries – indeed, he cites one.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 11:45 am

  88. “We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case.”

    He sounds like one of the characters from Lionel Shriver’s novel “Game Control”.

    Eleanor Merritt, a do-gooding American family-planning worker, was drawn to Kenya to improve the lot of the poor. Unnervingly, she finds herself falling in love with the beguiling Calvin Piper despite, or perhaps because of, his misanthropic theories about population control and the future of the human race. Surely, Calvin whispers seductively in Eleanor’s ear, if the poor are a responsibility they are also an imposition.

    Set against the vivid backdrop of shambolic modern-day Africa—a continent now primarily populated with wildlife of the two-legged sort—Lionel Shriver’s Game Control is a wry, grimly comic tale of bad ideas and good intentions. With a deft, droll touch, Shriver highlights the hypocrisy of lofty intellectuals who would “save” humanity but who don’t like people.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 11:46 am

  89. He’s referring exclusively to black countries – indeed, he cites one.

    Black, and brown. He’s hardly the first to imply that the problem with the world is that there are just too many black and brown babies in it.

    Or as PJ O’Rourke famously put it, “Just Enough of Me; Way Too Many of You.”

    CL is right.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 11:55 am

  90. “Lets begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today”

    You mean those traditional internet lands of aboriginal folklore? Yes, let’s.

  91. Snap sdog. I thought of that book straight away too.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 11:57 am

  92. Climate Change Science: A Modern Synthesis: Volume 1 – The Physical Climate
    G. Thomas Farmer, John Cook

    Designed as an introductory text for use at the undergraduate level, Climate Change Science assumes no science background on the part of the reader.

    Only $99 at Amazon. No doubt will be prescribed reading at UQ.

    Harold

    23 Jan 13 at 11:58 am

  93. A comment from Ripple Effect of Moreton Bay at Michael Smith’s that says it all:

    IT’S ALL ABOUT MERIT.

    Prime Minister Gillard has defended her decision to dump, pleasantly plump, pasty-looking, long-time incumbent Senator Trish Crossin and replace her with a fit, well-tanned Nova Peris.
    The Prime Minister today said that she had met with Senator Crossin on several occasions over the last 12 months to advise her that her work performance was unsatisfactory. Ms Gillard added that she had personally observed Senator Crossin in the hallways of Parliament House and seen just how hopeless she is at running the 200m sprint.
    But what is worse is the fact that Senator Crossin is not a team player—her performance in the 4×100 relay around The Great Hall was utterly disgraceful. Ms Gillard said that Senator Crossin is an embarrassment to all of in the ALP. “I have tried to help her as much as is humanly possible. During her employee appraisals, I have argued with her until I was black in the face, but Senator Crossin always refused to acknowledge her shortcomings. Once Nova Perris is installed as a Senator, I expect that government business will be carried out with more expediency. It’s all about merit.”

    Cold-Hands

    23 Jan 13 at 11:59 am

  94. Ethiopia:

    If the NGOs that have launched what they call ‘a campaign to stop manmade disaster in Ethiopia’ are truly concerned about the wellbeing of Ethiopians, why are they not campaigning for the people living at the Omo’s mercy to be freed from their river-enslavement? Why are they not fighting for Ethiopians’ rights to benefit from modern facilities, like electricity, which sustain International Rivers’ offices in sunny California?

    It is because these NGOs (International Rivers, the Counter Balance Coalition, the Campaign for the Reform of the World Bank, Friends of Lake Turkana and Survival International) do not want ‘indigenous people’ to change. Instead they want to preserve them in a state of noble savagery.

    Nathalie Rothschild at Spiked

    With development, the Ethiopians ( and others ) probably could support themselves.

    So Nathalie’s thesis that the rich NGO’s want to ‘preserve’ indigenous people is probably challenged by Attenborough’s comments that there are too many of them.

    The conclusion must be that lack of development will in due course wipe out vast swathes of these people due to hunger, disease, disaster etc and that is therefore the object of the exercise.

    Myrrdin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 12:04 pm

  95. Rabbit Proof Fence is a pack of lies

    Yep. In Miami, Florida, last year I was talking to an American guy who was pretty keen on both Rabbit Proof Fence and Australia. I told him those movies were quite a bit far-fetched and suggested that he should watch Wolf Creek instead.

    Septimus

    23 Jan 13 at 12:11 pm

  96. They’re not messing around when they say it’s written for undergraduates…

    G. Thomas Farmer
    Farmer Enterprises
    Las Cruces, NM, USA

    John Cook
    School of Psychology
    The University of Queensland
    St Lucia, QLD, Australia

    Amazon provides the Foreward, selected quote…

    Most scientists are realists and their primary concern is for the best future for the humanity on this planet. It is the main reason most of them became scientists. The principal driver of scientific endeavour is to advance human knowledge and to make the Earth a more pleasant place, or at least a better place; a better understood place, for future generations to live. Scientists and others may differ about their definition of “better” but most want to improve the Earth and human society.

    More comedy at the Amazon link.

    Harold

    23 Jan 13 at 12:18 pm

  97. Which one, Trace – Shriver’s or O’Rourke’s?

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 12:21 pm

  98. Is it any suprise that Tony Burke is doing everything in his capacity of Minister to Destroy Primary Industry to stop these enterprising Australians?

    THE company behind the super-trawler banned from fishing in Australia plans to use it as a floating fish freezer instead, a move that could provoke further government intervention.

    …It would see the 143m-long factory ship used only as a mothership for freezing fish caught by a fleet of at least five smaller boats, from 28m to 40m, based in Tasmania and Port Lincoln, South Australia.

    By reducing the need for the smaller boats to return to shore with every catch, it would make the fishery viable without contravening the ban on the Abel Tasman taking fish.

    Ludwig & Burke (yes 2 Ministers) are on the case to review innovations in the fishing industry:

    A spokesman for Fisheries Minister Joe Ludwig hinted that the same powers that were used to ban the super-trawler from fishing could be used to ban it from acting solely as a floating freezer.

    “Minister Burke is currently seeking advice from his department about whether this proposal is a new activity and his options for reviewing the proposal,” the spokesman said.

    …Senator Ludwig’s spokesman said that last September parliament passed legislation that provided the Environment Minister with “the power to refer methods of fishing that haven’t been used previously to an expert panel for their review”.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 12:21 pm

  99. Interesting potted history of the wool industry here

    Short excerpt:

    Now stir in the Hawke Labor Government (1983–91), which floats the currency, winds back protection and moves to deregulate the economy, all good things needed to open Australia up to the world. This reforming policy zeal plus the growing power of the AWC eventually gives us the Wool Marketing Act, 1987. The Act takes the extraordinary step of largely ceding the annual setting of the MRP to woolgrowers. Based on the relevant economics literature and experience, this was a stupid regulatory model if ever there was one!

    Forester

    23 Jan 13 at 12:23 pm

  100. Without despots, famine and disease are the most effective population control tools.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 12:25 pm

  101. Without despots, famine and disease are the most effective population control tools.

    Actually, education and capitalism work even better.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 12:28 pm

  102. No first-world peaceful democracies are suffering from overpopulation, despite their lack of handy despots or “famine and disease” to cull the herd.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 12:31 pm

  103. Most scientists are excited about their science [HT to Big Kev] and they hope to be able to impart that excitement to the students that they teach or for whom they write. Scientists are among the best educated members of society and now is a great time to be a scientist [$kaching$] because knowledge is expanding astronomically, in quantum leaps. New knowledge is always exciting in one’s major field of interest, but what is being found out today about the Earth and its climate is truly amazing. New satellites are being sent into space [on rockets?? rockets are COOL!] and Earth orbit [pedantic fail, sent into space != satellite] to monitor Earth’s climate in ways never before imagined or thought possible. Scientists are learning more and more about the past climates of other planets as well as about that of the Earth. Other space vehicles are exploring other parts of the Universe and man is getting ready to explore other planets [and mine the @#%& out of them for cash!]

    Harold

    23 Jan 13 at 12:31 pm

  104. “He’s referring exclusively to black countries – indeed, he cites one”

    I think there is a difference between pointing out that there are too many blacks and noting that famine is a problem in a particular part of the world. After all, famines are political problems and easily solved if there is enough food in toto and trade or donations.

    Attenborough is wrong to think there is a serious food problem, but I very much doubt he is stupid or wicked enough to think that kenyans or ethiopians should starve if they can’t grow enough food for themselves. It’s just the type of bone-headedness exposed in Against Nature.

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 12:32 pm

  105. There is more to this move by Gillard than meets the eye:

    Trish Crossin: Senator for the Northern Territory

    Trish Crossin is the current National Co-Convenor of EMILY’s List Australia. She has represented the Northern Territory in the Senate since 1998 and is the first woman elected to federal parliament from the Northern Territory. Trish is Chair of the Senate Legal and Constitutional Legislation Committee and Deputy Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Rural and Regional Indigenous Communities. She was formerly the Deputy Opposition Whip in the Senate from 2001 to 2004.

    Trish has been a member of the ALP since the early 1980s and is currently President of the NT Branch. Prior to her election she was a teacher and a union official. Trish joined EMILY’s List Australia as a foundation member in 1997.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 12:33 pm

  106. “Without despots, famine and disease are the most effective population control tools become quite rare.”

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 12:36 pm

  107. “… you’re a treaty ambassador for ATSIC. What does that involve?

    Nova Peris: Um, just pretty much all… Well, actually, … (mumble unconnected words) … You know, I go out and I’m a grass-roots person.

    Well, I mean, if you’re a leader, um, like me being an ambassador, … (more unconnected words) … it’s just me trying to create awareness of… you know,”

    Aha, at last, the answer is – she’s an Awareness Creator Organiser Thingy! Like, you know.

    That was from a 40 year old. She’ll be in good company with Labor’s other notable barely literate wimminses, Comrade Pre-schooler Kate Ellis.

    “Borderline vacuous”? It’s disability pension-worthy Dan!

    “Sorry, Ric Charlesworth would not have allowed to play in the national team for 8 or so years if that were so.”

    You’re hypothesising Dot. Charlesworth may just have possibly maybe perhaps could-of of spent 80% of his time keeping her or them hosed down.

    “She was one of the best in her team, and when she stepped down, they still won in 2000″

    So what? That does not deny “Her peers couldn’t stand the silver spoon, overwhelming sense of her own self worth and the playing of the race card.”

    I’m reminded now (by Dan) of the trouble she generated at the time. I’ve not checked but I vaguely recall there may have been a John Steffensen-like appeal against non selection at some time as well.

    I hope the whole farce, and both wimminses involved in the stunt, fall flat on their faces.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 12:36 pm

  108. “No first-world peaceful democracies countries are suffering from overpopulation, but some have really crap governments and institutions.”

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 12:37 pm

  109. Trish joined EMILY’s List Australia as a foundation member in 1997.
    As did Gillard.
    Are you suggesting that there’s some score settling going on?

    Cold-Hands

    23 Jan 13 at 12:39 pm

  110. Sorry sdog, I meant Shriver’s. I’m yet to read anything of hers that I haven’t enjoyed.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 12:45 pm

  111. Everyone is doomed, even you people who thought you could escape underground and live in tunnels like the Morlocks, DOOMED!

    It is not that humans will suffocate from the additional CO2 directly [undergrad text], but that it will cause an increase in Earth’s temperature to a degree that will make the planet too hot for humans to live on it or in it.

    Harold

    23 Jan 13 at 12:45 pm

  112. I’m pretty sure that none of our 4 year olds would find themselves in immigration detention.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 12:47 pm

  113. I just thought it is interesting how the PM is helping one of her old chums from EL.

    As did Gillard.
    Are you suggesting that there’s some score settling going on?

    We are talking about the Labor Party.

    As has been mentioned above, Crossin backed Rudd last year.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 12:49 pm

  114. Re the Nova Peris thing…
    Gillard is afraid of democracy, even within her own party. If she really wanted Nova Peris to be a credible entrant into the federal parliament, she would have insisted that she go through the pre-selection process. That way, Gillard and more importantly Peris would have been able to claim that she won the spot on merit. Instead, Gillard basically tells the members of the NT labor party that they are too stupid to do what is in their best interests and that only she knows what is best.
    Peris herself helped the cat today when she basically admitted this is about winning back aboriginal votes in the wake of the disastrous (for labor) NT election result.
    On another note, I am glad that a foundation member of Emily’s list has been dumped…

    Skuter

    23 Jan 13 at 12:50 pm

  115. Peris looked like a rabbit in the spotlight, Gillard looked like… um, not too sure what she looked like but I suspect…

    Botox.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 12:54 pm

  116. “Borderline vacuous”? It’s disability pension-worthy Dan!

    Why are we complaining? What would Napoleon say as the Austrians shifted their artillery to their isolated left flank?

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 12:56 pm

  117. Harold, a pity we hadn’t sent a probe to that asteroid that’s going to pass the Earth in February. If it’s metallic, we could mine it. If it’s rock, I could think of a particular persons head it could be dropped on.

    Rabz, take holidays in February. Preferably in Qld or WA. Bring your significant others…

    Winston Smith

    23 Jan 13 at 12:58 pm

  118. Are the Emily Lister’s eating there own now?

    Rousie

    23 Jan 13 at 12:58 pm

  119. Thanks for fixing that for me

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 1:00 pm

  120. “What would Napoleon say as the Austrians shifted their artillery to their isolated left flank?”

    Oh there surely is that Dot, you are right. The fabulous negotiator negotiates remarkably yet again.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 1:05 pm

  121. ‘sactly.

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 1:10 pm

  122. Burke & Ludwig are to politics and primary production what Burke & Wills were to exploration.

    H B Bear

    23 Jan 13 at 1:11 pm

  123. Fatty O’Barrell’s nanny state goes after rail hitch-hiker:

    Police said the train driver saw the woman climb on to the roof of the freight train as it stopped at Broken Hill about 3am on Tuesday. The train continued on its 320km journey and reached speeds of 115km/h before stopping at Ivanhoe Railway Station.

    The train driver contacted police and gave them a description of the woman. A short time later, officers stopped a woman matching the driver’s description as she walked along the Cobb Highway towards Ivanhoe’s town centre.

    The woman, who was attempting to make her way to Adelaide, was taken to Ivanhoe where other travel arrangements were made.

    The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of a train not intended for passenger use.

    She is due to appear in Broken Hill Local Court on March 11.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 1:14 pm

  124. She’s good value, Tracey. Good to see she has fans in Oz. I really liked “So Much For That” too.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 1:14 pm


  125. Police said the train driver saw the woman climb on to the roof of the freight train as it stopped at Broken Hill about 3am on Tuesday. T

    But he still departed BH knowing the woman was on the roof..

    entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 1:18 pm

  126. helped the cat

    Whoops, that should have read…”belled the cat”

    Skuter

    23 Jan 13 at 1:19 pm

  127. One of the UK Tele’s oped writers picks up the obvious question from ‘Brave Dave’ Cameron’s announcement that there in fact will NOT be peace in our time:

    David Cameron anticipates a ‘generational struggle’ against al-Qaeda. With what?

    And the best rating commenter ‘gets it’:

    The denudation of Britain’s armed forces is an absolute scandal.

    No doubt Cameron believes that the slack will be picked up by some kind of Euro-army.

    Much as our own Federales hope there will be no local nastiness AND we will have lots of big friends after they have skewered our own defence capability.

    BTW – I suspect a hollowed out defence capability will be played by the Europhiles as another reason for Britain to stay in the EU.

    Myrrdin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 1:20 pm

  128. You know, I’m starting to wonder if Michael Smith is a peanut. I have no brief to defend Ray Hadley (a blabbermouthed idiot) but Smith’s rejection of Hadley’s scepticism regarding Gillard’s criminality goes just a smidgen over the top:

    Ray is wrong. There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth. It will take time, it’s a huge investigation, there are presently countless witnesses to be found, interviewed, statements taken and that evidence collated for presentation to a court.

    Some of the finest detectives on earth are presently investigating Julia Gillard?

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 1:21 pm

  129. Crossin is going to fight the Captain’s Pick.

    Eggsellent. Green cans, handbags and paring knives all round. Two mates each, no holds barred.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 1:22 pm

  130. Earning the big bucks…

    Gillard outlines national security strategy.

    She says terrorism is a key national security risk.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 1:23 pm

  131. The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of a train not intended for passenger use.

    She is due to appear in Broken Hill Local Court on March 11.

    I hope she gave them a fake identity.

    Fatty O’Barrell’s nanny state goes after rail hitch-hiker

    So, they’ve solved all of the pending murder, armed robbery and sexual assault cases then?

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 1:24 pm

  132. I hope the whole farce, and both wimminses involved in the stunt, fall flat on their faces.

    Or failing that, on their well upholstered bottomses…

    Rabz

    23 Jan 13 at 1:30 pm

  133. Australian man faces 24 lashes of the cane in Singapore for foul-mouthed tirade on Tiger Airways flight. Harsh, to be sure. But I would have no objection to men being caned for wearing singlets or thongs on flights.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 1:33 pm

  134. As Pickles mentioned, this is now out of control: the incompetent, brain-dead Lying Slapper is asking for a public, humiliating slapdown that would make her position untenable:

    TRISH Crossin will fight Julia Gillard’s attempt to install Nova Peris as her replacement in the Senate, pitting herself against the Olympian in a battle for the support of the ALP national executive.

    Senator Crossin’s vow to battle for her Senate spot comes amid a growing internal backlash over the Prime Minister’s plan to override Northern Territory Labor and push Ms Peris to the top of the Territory ticket.

    The ALP national executive committee will hold a phone hook-up later today to endorse Ms Gillard’s “captain’s pick”, and to fast-track Ms Peris’s ALP membership.

    But Senator Crossin said she intended to put her name forward if nominations for the Territory Senate seat were opened by the national executive.

    She also ruled out running as an independent and called for NT Labor members to be included in the process of selecting the Territory’s Senate candidate.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 1:34 pm

  135. You know, I’m starting to wonder if Michael Smith is a peanut.

    Being on Twitter, I’ve seen what I can only describe as small-but-enthusiastic unquestioning cults of personality form around first Pickering and then Smith.

    I’ve just tended to instinctively give them a pretty wide berth on that. A lot of it seems OTT to me.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 1:35 pm

  136. The ALP cannot win here.

    Either they look corrupt, or that they spit out and use indigenous Australians.

    Do not interrupt them whilst they make the mistake, but make them remember it for a long time.

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 1:36 pm

  137. “Gillard … She says terrorism is a key national security risk.”

    Good God! Now that changes everything.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 1:37 pm

  138. Australian man faces 24 lashes of the cane in Singapore for foul-mouthed tirade on Tiger Airways flight. Harsh, to be sure. But I would have no objection to men being caned for wearing singlets or thongs on flights.

    This is fantastic news. Mow that scum can afford to fly they need remedial lessons in manners.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 1:37 pm

  139. Smith said the other day (I followed a link from here and looked around) that his blog is now his only source of income. There followed his bank donation details. So when he posts teasers about the impending – always impending – doom of Julia Gillard at the hands of planet earth’s greatest detectives, do take it with a Volkswagon-sized boulder of salt.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 1:37 pm

  140. sdog, I liked that one too but I think my favourite (apart from We Need to Talk About Kevin) was The Post-Birthday World

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 1:37 pm

  141. Burke & Ludwig are to politics and primary production what Burke & Wills were to exploration.

    Ahhhhahahaha- love it HB Bear – such a great turn of phrase, vocalising is rather overrated when you come up with gems like that.

    Tintarella di Luna

    23 Jan 13 at 1:38 pm

  142. …officers stopped a woman matching the driver’s description as she walked along the Cobb Highway towards Ivanhoe’s town centre.

    so the train driver was a woman that looked like a stow-away — that sentence needs a bit of work — I am confused too much luna for me.

    Tintarella di Luna

    23 Jan 13 at 1:40 pm

  143. Some of the finest detectives on earth are presently investigating Julia Gillard?

    They certainly won’t be Australian Police then. Obviously Interpol are involved.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 1:42 pm

  144. The donation thing bothers me about Michael Smith too CL. His wife is apparently a paid presenter on some TV channel so they should hardly be starving.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 1:42 pm

  145. Yes Tom it appears that every member of the NT Branch have been served up a shit sandwich by The Missus up The Big House.

    They have a choice. If they dog it, then it will be up to the NT electorate to reinforce the old NT truism that interfering Southerners aren’t welcome up here (but your big mob of cash is). As to what happens if the NTALP spits out the turd roll, I don’t know or care, but I just hope there is lots of skin and hair flying.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 1:46 pm

  146. Tracey, I have no problem with anyone asking for money for a service (including running a blog). The trouble is that Smith is in the impending fall of Gillard racket and his supporters imagine they’re helping the noble cause by ‘supporting his work.’

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 1:48 pm

  147. Agreed. I still wonder what Glen Milne is doing. Does anybody know?

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 1:50 pm

  148. Pickles, and as far as the bush Aborigines are concerned — that’s the people who delivered government to the CLP last year — Nova is a city girl imposed on them by southerners. She is one of them. Just to cap off the disaster, Gillard has also gone to war with the local ALP machine. Naivety and stupidity beyond belief.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 1:55 pm

  149. Rabz

    23 Jan 13 at 1:59 pm

  150. There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth.

    Cue the entrance of Thomson and Thompson.

    Andreas

    23 Jan 13 at 2:02 pm

  151. There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth.

    Unless you can solve the Gillard Swindle with a radar trap and a booze bus I fail to see what role Australian Police can play in this case.

    If she’s caught going 64kmh in a 60kmh zone with a BAC of 0.051 then they’re our guys.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 2:06 pm

  152. Just wondering, where does Nova Peris currently live?

    entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 2:07 pm

  153. Now look here Tom, this is a Cunning Plan. Gillard hasn’t put a foot wrong yet and I doubt she will here. She’s the Master Negotiator and Tactician. She has pulled The Party behind her. As it were.

    Marion Scrymgour ranting. Bess Price and Alison Anderson chortling. Nigel Scullion dishing up a feed of mud crab.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 2:08 pm

  154. It’s difficult to reconcile how Gillard’s body (sorry) can simultaneously house such rat cunning and such monstrous ineptness and stupidity.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 2:12 pm


  155. AN indigenous Northern Territory politician has called Nova Peris the “maid inside the house” of the Labor Party.

    “I think she’s (Prime Minister Julia Gillard) been shamed into making that decision … ” said CLP Minister Alison Anderson.

    “I think she’s been dragged kicking to preselect an Aboriginal person, which I think is a great shame.

    “Because I don’t think Territorians know her, especially Aboriginal people out in remote Aboriginal communities. And I don’t think she understands the poverty and disadvantage of the remote Territory.”

    The indigenous Ms Anderson – a former NT Labor minister – said Ms Peris would be a “maid to do the sheets and serve the cups of teas”.

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’.”

    entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 2:12 pm

  156. Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Boobs, Says Equalities Minister

    Big boobs aren’t vital.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 2:18 pm

  157. The indigenous Ms Anderson – a former NT Labor minister – said Ms Peris would be a “maid to do the sheets and serve the cups of teas”.

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’.”

    Wow

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 2:19 pm

  158. It’s difficult to reconcile how Gillard’s body (sorry) can simultaneously house such rat cunning and such monstrous ineptness and stupidity.

    You wouldn’t want to be trapped on a life raft with her, and a diminishing supply of survival rations…..must..not..fall…asleep…must…not…..

    Myrrdin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 2:20 pm

  159. I would jump off the raft and take my chances with the sharks!

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 2:22 pm

  160. jupes – the only way to change behaviour is to punish by embarassing them with these sort of claims.

    You don’t get it.

    The behaviour I want the government to change is that of the freeloaders deciding to coming here by boat. I want the government to make illegal immigration a harsh experience. Very harsh. Then I want them to be sent home.

    I don’t want fuckwits like you taking taxpayer’s money and giving it to the freeloaders as extra incentive to make the journey.

    jupes

    23 Jan 13 at 2:24 pm

  161. another insight into the democratic process and notch up another failure, when it can be hailed as a success when a competent minister is pushed aside for a figure who has few credentials above sporting success. The cost to the electorate – huge, but unmeasured. Even if the democratic process has a bare shred of credibility this stands as an act of stupidity, indigenous nominee or otherwise. An example of political point scoring in its purest form.

    Fire and Ice

    23 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm

  162. Alison Anderson doesn’t do air swings. The little Papunya girl is brutal.
    I wonder if that Larissa Behrent will tweet the “rather watch a bloke root a horse on Deadwood than listen to Alison” jibe. I dares ya. Worked out well last time.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm

  163. I don’t think Territorians know her, especially Aboriginal people out in remote Aboriginal communities.

    Full-blood Aborigines have a very uncharitable phrase for mixed-race city Aborigines.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm

  164. Classic Australiana:

    A SIX-month inquiry into Victoria’s racing industry has found no evidence of systemic corruption.

    Racing Integrity Commissioner Sal Perna said his investigations led to a number of inquiries, but only one has resulted in a prosecution.

    “Based on current evidence, race fixing is not a systemic issue in Victoria,” Mr Perna said.

    Nothing broken, then. All good.

    No no.

    This is Australia, remember.

    Despite his conclusion that Victorian racing is free of endemic race-fixing, Mr Perna made 11 recommendations in his report released today, mostly relating to the need for the industry to have greater coercive powers and for the introduction of legislation to enable police to share information with racing authorities.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 2:26 pm

  165. Putting on my best Bullwinkle J Moose voice:

    “Oooh”

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’

    Louis Hissink

    23 Jan 13 at 2:27 pm

  166. There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth.

    That would be the same detectives who have been investigating Thomo now for over a year. Of course they wouldn’t have to do too much as FWA had investigated him for over three years before that.

    In all truth, I reckon I could wrap the whole thing up in under a week.

    jupes

    23 Jan 13 at 2:33 pm

  167. Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Boobs, Says Equalities Minister

    Oh, but the mention of Christina Hendricks in Mad Men is an opportunity that can’t be missed to again showcase the greatest animated gif ever made.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 2:35 pm

  168. You know, I’m starting to wonder if Michael Smith is a peanut.

    Smith is not a journalist any more, he’s now in public relations. The PR he’s doing is for his sources. Somehow he has figured out that it’s a good business model to do free PR for one side of politics, and beg those who agree with that side to give him alms. He believes in civil society so much that he is basing his entire career and livelihood on private donors.

    Michael Smith is the Stella Kowalski of Australian politics.

    m0nty

    23 Jan 13 at 2:35 pm

  169. I see Nova runs a charity called “Peris Enterprises”.
    Has a nice touchy-feely ring to it, not.
    Before she runs for the Senate, can we see the books? Can we have a brief summary of its objectives and achievements to date.
    Sounds like the snout knows where the trough is, even if not yet fully in it.

    Keith

    23 Jan 13 at 2:39 pm

  170. I’m loving this …

    “CLP Minister Alison Anderson – a former NT Labor minister – said Ms Peris would be a “maid to do the sheets and serve the cups of teas”.

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’.”

    Looking around the NT News I see a Darwin bus driver was beaten around the scone yesterday with a watermelon. With a watermelon. By a non paying passenger. While his kids watched.

    Anyhow – here are a few reader comments to the various news reports about Our Nova Peris-No-Longer-Kneebone:

    “What are we, the people of the NT really gaining or losing here? On one hand you have a long term ineffectual and invisible senator in Trish Crossin, … On the other hand you have a woman brought up and schooled in a Darwin northern suburb, who only discovered her “aboriginality” once she won a gold medal and needed a job after atheletics but lived in Canberra for the last 15 years.

    Now that’s a good start for her campaign to win un-Canberra voters.

    “I saw Peris on the Today Show this morning so called answering questions OMG what an embarrassment she is going to get eaten alive and spat out in the parliament”

    Unsurprising. Followed by another similar observation.

    “Well Nova hang your head you are tainted for ever and i will never accept you as my labour senator ever,watching you on the today show made me cringe and your tears standing next to the chief is only the beginning shame shame”

    Here’s a classic:

    “Gillard said today that she wanted more women in the parliment and that is the reason she approached Nova Peris……………..What the hell does she think Trish Crossin is?”

    An obvious question:

    “Perhaps Ms. Crossin was not a high profile, well considered representative however what qualifications does Ms Peris have in this field which can contribute to politics?”

    And, yes, the likely result:

    “Nothing more than populist politics to get the aborigine vote. Look at Garret and what a fine asset he is, Nova Peris will be just as useless.”

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 2:47 pm

  171. Monster

    What about you and that stupid site you’re running for the kids?

    Jc 

    23 Jan 13 at 2:48 pm

  172. jupes – I’m all for the Howard policies and stopping illegal boat arrivals. I’m also in favour of dealing with them however legally we can to stop them from boarding boats in the first place, such as mandatory detention in another country etc. But that does not mean we turn ourselves into barbarians.

    M Smith is being overly enthusiastic about Vic Police for a couple of reasons I think. My view is he is setting them up so they don’t drop the investigation on him. He is also knocking back people who are being negative and dismissive of them. Good luck to him but no $ from me.

    pete m

    23 Jan 13 at 2:49 pm

  173. Ronaldo

    23 Jan 13 at 2:50 pm

  174. …I see a Darwin bus driver was beaten around the scone yesterday with a watermelon. With a watermelon.

    Watermelon buyback now.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 2:50 pm

  175. Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Bottoms, Says CL

    Rabz

    23 Jan 13 at 2:52 pm

  176. Smith is not a journalist any more, he’s now in public relations.

    As if you’re a fucking expert, Monty. Smith has virtually an entire beat to himself; his only competitor is The Australian. Because the rest of the ethically bankrupt media is openly barracking for an incument government and has stopped reporting the news with even a pretence of objectivity — the first time this has happened in Australian history.

    Professionally, Smith could have taken the soft option, shut his mouth and got a job being a Good German media invertebrate. Instead, he has sacrificed his career to do what no other independent journalist is doing.

    He is certainly not a gutless bumboy like you, barracking for a political ruling class that is hated by most of the population. You’re a caricature of a journalist.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 2:53 pm

  177. “Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Bottoms, Says CL”

    I read it Rabz, and re-read it and then roared laughing.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 2:55 pm

  178. Just listen to this fatuous idiot. Julia Gillard has now altered the meaning of the word merit. She now claims that SHE (not God or fate or genes or luck) ‘distributes’ it:

    “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population, across genders, across races then if you are looking at an outcome where you can see lots of men or not many indigenous Australians, then people of merit are missing out,” she said.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 2:56 pm

  179. Christina’s bottom is not massive. It’s perfect.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 2:58 pm

  180. Michael Smith is the Stella Kowalski of Australian politics.

    Chucklehead. Leave it to you to fuck up a reference from a classic play like Streetcar.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 2:59 pm

  181. Big boobs aren’t vital

    Whilst not vital, they certainly help!

    Huckleberry Chunkwot

    23 Jan 13 at 3:00 pm

  182. In the spirit of this new definition of merit, Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 3:01 pm

  183. Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe.

    Trish Crossin misses out again…

    Rabz

    23 Jan 13 at 3:05 pm

  184. “Are the Emily Lister’s eating there own now?”

    Isn’t that what Emily’s List is about? Oh, the irony…

  185. Watermelon buyback now.

    Only self-loading assault watermelons

    Keith

    23 Jan 13 at 3:06 pm

  186. jupes – I’m all for the Howard policies and stopping illegal boat arrivals. I’m also in favour of dealing with them however legally we can to stop them from boarding boats in the first place, such as mandatory detention in another country etc. But that does not mean we turn ourselves into barbarians.

    Mate you are either thick or gullible. Perhaps both. Either way, what you are doing is bad for Australia.

    We are dealing with scam artists here. They are here for free stuff. You stated they “regularly” try to commit suicide. Somehow they don’t succeed. Why is that do you think?

    Australia needs to be as harsh as necessary to get rid of these parasites and ensure no more try to come here. What we definitely don’t need is psychiatrists or lawyers getting their own noses into the trough while dipping their hands into the taxpayer’s pockets and giving it to illegal immigrants.

    That would only reward their behaviour and more will follow.

    jupes

    23 Jan 13 at 3:06 pm

  187. “Are the Emily’s Listers eating their own now?”

    Isn’t that what Emily’s List is about?

    Eating, you mean?

    Yes: Christine Nixon apologises for dining out on evening of Black Saturday.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 3:09 pm

  188. “The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of a train not intended for passenger use.”

    What about for being so stupid as to travel 320kms in the wrong direction? Do we delete the train scene from Skyfall when it finally reaches FTA TV?

  189. “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population, across genders, across races then if you are looking at an outcome where you can see lots of men or not many indigenous Australians, then people of merit are missing out,” she said.

    Surely that’s game, set & match right there. Let’s ask Nova whether she supports da new method of team based selections

    Rousie

    23 Jan 13 at 3:15 pm

  190. Can anybody find a link to peris enterprises? Lots of references to it but no real evidence it actually exists.

    I did find her employment history though

    Employment History
    Advocate
    Aboriginal

    Treaty Ambassador
    Big Sky Publishing Pty Ltd

    Board Memberships and Affiliations
    Member
    Aboriginal

    Founder
    Peris Enterprises

    Board Member
    National Depression Institute

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 3:19 pm

  191. “Gillard has also gone to war with the local ALP machine. Naivety and stupidity beyond belief.”

    Keep racking up the enemies, Gillard. I can’t see her eventual demise being anything but metaphorically bloody, unless of course she makes it to the next election and loses to Abbott, what would in effect be a mercy killing.

  192. Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe.

    Earthians,

    This will scare off aliens from other worlds. They’ll never phone me!!

    Regards

    Bob Brown.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 3:29 pm

  193. “In the spirit of this new definition of merit, Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe”

    I can only presume she would be going for the greasy-haired vote.

  194. Christina’s bottom is not massive. It’s perfect.

    Well, it’s definitely ’round’ anyway, CL. Nothing at all ‘pert’ there.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 3:33 pm

  195. I can’t see her eventual demise being anything but metaphorically bloody, unless of course she makes it to the next election and loses to Abbott, what would in effect be a mercy killing.

    Remember how the great outpouring of relief and happiness from the Labor Caucus after the Rudd reign of terror was ended. Long sermons on how relieved they that the dark days were over. The ABC, FauxFacts & Newscorp lackeys denouncing the former leader they fawned over only 24 hours earlier.

    It is not hard to imagine we’ll see a similar event real soon…

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 3:33 pm

  196. “jupes – I’m all for the Howard policies and stopping illegal boat arrivals. … But that does not mean we turn ourselves into barbarians.”

    World peace, I too long for World Peace pete m, and no starving liddle, liddle children.

    Barbarians? Give me a break. We are the softest touch in the whole region – don’t you remember Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono suggesting we “take the sugar off the table”? He doesn’t even bother sending out his coast guard to rescue them when they deliberately spike their vessels as they cast off in Djakarta Harbour, because dopey whitey downstream will send the RAN all the way there to rescue them. Neither he should too.

    They shouldn’t be allowed in by boat, as simple as that. That’s not barbaric.

    The Singapore and Philippines Governments control their readily accessible borders with naval boats and machine guns, 24 hours a day, and they turn the illegals’ boats around. That’s not barbaric either.

    If you want to be all lovely about illegals then how about you take over all the payments whittled off my tax dollars for illegals’ preferred lifestyle, and those whittled off my childrens’ tax dollars, there’s a good lad. You can take them out into the desert to live with you ‘cos I don’t want them using facilities paid for and maintained by me.

    I’ll write a nice lovely letter to the UN telling them how lovely you are.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 3:34 pm

  197. Can anybody find a link to peris enterprises? Lots of references to it but no real evidence it actually exists.

    Try the ABN lookup or ASIC register:

    https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/SearchRegisters.jspx?_adf.ctrl-state=19s4ycig6m_4 (if that doesn’t work search from here: http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Registers?openDocument )

    Or this: http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByName.aspx?SearchText=Peris+Enterprises

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 3:35 pm

  198. Yea trying. Weird that a Pty Ltd company has no records available.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 3:39 pm

  199. “It is not hard to imagine we’ll see a similar event real soon…”

    I have a bottle of champers chilled for precisely that occasion. Ding, dong! The witch is dead! is oh so catchy…

  200. “Remember how the great outpouring of relief and happiness from the Labor Caucus after the Rudd reign of terror was ended.”

    What does that make Gillard’s reign? The reign of error?

  201. Mate you are either thick or gullible. Perhaps both. Either way, what you are doing is bad for Australia.

    Pete M has a point. The system Gillard designed and the incompetents in Labor implemented has seen over 30,000 people come to country in a rush. Think about how big an opportunity that is for big government agencies to act inhumane and to brutalise people.

    You can be it has been made worse since Bowen implemented the most amazing policies which made it a crime for staff to speak out about problems in the system.

    The staff with hearts and souls who previously spoke to people like Ray Hadley are now be afraid to report the abuse of the vulnerable by organised criminals running under the cover of this system.

    __________________

    That said, there is a real moral hazard to treat the teenagers who crew the boats in a different way to the adult crew. It created an incentive to the organised criminals to use children as crew.

    When those boats when down at sea you can bet a number of those Indonesian children went down on the boats…

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 3:41 pm

  202. Septimus

    23 Jan 13 at 3:42 pm

  203. That’s an R there isn’t it in “peris enterprises” ?

    Harold

    23 Jan 13 at 3:44 pm

  204. The charity doesn’t seem to have charitable status…

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 3:45 pm

  205. You have to pay for that info! For a charity, it’s reporting is not very transparent.

    All I can ascertain is that it is not entitled to receive tax deductible gifts, and in october of last year the registered address was moved to the nt, although a web listing still remains for an office in the ACT.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 3:47 pm

  206. I see Nova runs a charity called “Peris Enterprises”.

    The ABN registry says that there’s a PERIS ENTERPRISES PTY LTD and a Nova Peris Enterprises Pty Limited – neither are listed as “entitled to receive tax deductible gifts”. Can’t find “Peris” anything in the DGR listings either. Odd, for a charity.

    There may still be a registered charity out there but – maybe someone else can find it. I’m not as familiar with the Aussie system as I am the US one. I’m involved with an American charity and we have to post our full tax returns on the open internet for all to see.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 3:48 pm

  207. The charity doesn’t seem to have charitable status…

    Although everybody refers to it as a charity. Yea, seems to be a vehicle to raise money for own expenses.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 3:49 pm

  208. Briefly glancing at what’s available at ABN LookUp, Peris Enterprises has shareholders.

    It is not a registered charity, which appear in ABN LookUp like this one.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 3:50 pm

  209. Dan, kae – SNAP!

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 3:50 pm

  210. Pedis Enterprises

    Former name(s): PERIS KNEEBONE ENTERPRISES PTY LTD

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 3:50 pm

  211. Snappitty doo-dah, Dawg.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 3:51 pm

  212. Here’s another charitable organisation, but not a charity per se. NSW VRA.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 3:52 pm

  213. Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    Meanwhile, in Australia, Macklin is accused of making a “gaffe” when she dares suggest you can live on the dole. Japan really went nuts for Croc Dundee, and had to go one up, “Haha – that’s not a gaffe… THIS is a gaffe!”

    Seriously though, the end result of socialised care is always death panels. Palin was ripped for saying it – possibly because the Left like to imagine she was stupid enough to suggest a literal panel deciding who to terminate, rather than merely stating the implicit result of the inevitable rationing of services.

    Fleeced

    23 Jan 13 at 3:53 pm

  214. kae

    23 Jan 13 at 3:54 pm

  215. Excellent analysis by Super D at 4.42am.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 3:55 pm

  216. Seriously though, the end result of socialised care is always death panels.

    Yes. Yes, it is.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 3:56 pm

  217. I just saw very sad news for old Angels fans in The Australian. Chris Bailey is receiving palliative care for cancer and Doc Neeson was diagnosed with a brain tumour over Christmas.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 3:58 pm

  218. So which bloody one is it?

    Does this seem dodgy to you lot?

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 3:58 pm

  219. Roxon orders charges against newspaper for accurately and helpfully reporting story of woman’s criminal behaviour:

    Charges could soon be laid against The Courier-Mail for allegedly breaching the Family Law Act during its coverage of a custody battle over four Italian sisters.

    The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into the Queensland newspaper after it last year published the names and photographs of the sisters at the centre of the international dispute…

    The complaint went to the federal Attorney-General’s office before being referred to the AFP on May 22. It in turned launched an investigation into the potential breach of the Family Law Act.

    Um, the woman’s grandmother – described by the Family ‘Court’ judge as behaviourally “extremely inappropriate and bizarre” – was unlawfully at large with her great-grandchildren – this was a missing persons case, in other words. This wasn’t a court-room “challenge” to the court’s orders. The newspaper was justified in pursuing this separate story (pictures included) – involving, as it did, the apprehension of what was, in effect, a kidnapped family.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 4:00 pm

  220. Practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube being used on young patients
    Doctor admits starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in neonatal unit

    Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    So this is what “Voluntary” euthanasia 2013 looks like. More to come.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 4:03 pm

  221. Those words again:

    The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into the Queensland newspaper…

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 4:04 pm

  222. Roxon orders charges against newspaper

    Von Roxon and Conroy believe they have “unfettered legal power”. More to come.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 4:05 pm

  223. The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into the Queensland newspaper…

    One would think that of all Newscorp newspapers, in any other cae the Courier Mail would get the most excited by the prospect.

    As Oakeshott promised us, this parliament & government can be beautiful in its ugliness…

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 4:08 pm

  224. In the land of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”, the 40th anniversary has been ignored by the MSM.

    56 million unborn babies killed.

    Bravo leftists.

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 4:15 pm

  225. 40th anniversary Roe v Wade

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 4:15 pm

  226. Kae & Dan, as mentioned, charities in the US have to make their detailed IRS form 990s public for inspection, and then they get rated on them thusly.

    Australia’s system has always seemed a lot less open & transparent to me.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 4:16 pm

  227. Extraordinary privileges and indulgence were afforded to the women behind the unlawful kidnapping of the four sisters. If they were men, they’d be doing hard time in the Big House. It was a shocking look for the Family ‘Court’ whose Chief Justice (a woman, natch) was the one who referred the Courier to the police. I can understand why she and the sisterhood resented the attention of a (formerly) free press.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 4:17 pm

  228. Obama Celebrates 40 Years of Abortion, Praising Roe v. Wade.

    “On the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we reaffirm its historic commitment to protect the health and reproductive freedom of women across this country and stand by its guiding principle: that government should not intrude on our most private family matters, and women should be able to make their own choices about their bodies and their health care.”

    Killing unborn babies is now a “family” matter.

    What an evil cockhead.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 4:21 pm

  229. Dan

    Which one is it? If you’re referring to the Peris entity, look at the dates when you click into the ABN. Down the bottom there is a list of changes submitted.

    Not sure why the three of them are still active, but it isn’t that unusual.

    It looks like the company name changed leaving out the Kneebone name, if you look at the history that will give more information.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:24 pm

  230. I just saw very sad news for old Angels fans in The Australian. Chris Bailey is receiving palliative care for cancer and Doc Neeson was diagnosed with a brain tumour over Christmas.

    I remember the first Angels album I bought, I think it was “Dark Room” with Doc Neeson’s eyes piercing out on the cover. Shadow Boxer is one of my favourites from their catalogue. “Ask me questions, get no answers…..”.
    I read somewhere that they even influenced Guns and Roses who did sound checks with some of their songs. Hopefully Doc can pull through and Chris Bailey is not suffering too much.

    Bear Necessities

    23 Jan 13 at 4:25 pm

  231. Maybe they’ll order a police raid on the newspaper, CL, like Carpenter did in Perth.

    Nothing like putting the fear of jackboots into your local journos to keep them in line.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 4:25 pm

  232. So, the “charity” is a sham. Thanks all.

    Keith

    23 Jan 13 at 4:26 pm

  233. Spot
    To be eligible for charity status in Aus the organisation must prove that they are a charity. There are hoops.
    I’m pretty sure a company with shareholders wouldn’t be eligible for charitable status.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:27 pm

  234. The joy of carbon pricing. Well done warmies!

    SWISS banking giant UBS says the European Union’s emissions trading scheme has cost the continent’s consumers $287 billion for “almost zero impact” on cutting carbon emissions, and has warned that the EU’s carbon pricing market is on the verge of a crash next year.

    Describing the EU’s ETS as having “limited benefits and embarrassing consequences”, the report said there was fading political support for the scheme, the price was too low to have any significant environmental impact and it had provided windfall profits to market participants, paid for by electricity customers.

    Poor Old Rafe

    23 Jan 13 at 4:30 pm

  235. Memo to Shane Wand…

    The orthodox Keynesians are both loud and numerous within the economics profession. However, they may be wrong. Below is a list of reasons.

    1. The historical record does not clearly support the Keynesian view. There are many instances in which fiscal expansions did not produce economic expansions and in which fiscal contractions did not produce economic contractions. For example, see some of the literature cited in a recent article by Robert Murphy, particularly footnote 5.

    2. The macroeconometric models that are trotted out to support Keynesian policies are highly suspect. (See “The Soothsayers of Macroeconometrics.”)

    3. The Keynesian rationale for deficits would imply that when the economy is not in recession, a balanced budget or surplus is in order. However, the United States has run deficits nearly every year since the Keynesian framework was adopted in the 1960s.

    4. As is well known, the Congressional Budget Office projects increasing deficits starting in about 10 years, as the full force of Baby Boom retirements hits the budget. From there on, the CBO projects ever-widening deficits. Yet no Keynesian is coming forward to suggest that perpetual deficits are appropriate. We are not always going to be in a recession. Why is there no plan to balance the budget?

    5. Technically, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research Business Cycle Dating Committee, the most recent recession ended in June 2009. In theory, the rationale for deficit spending ended on that date as well. Of course, economic conditions today are not very satisfactory. But if it is necessary to run deficits whenever conditions are “not very satisfactory,” when will we not run deficits?

    In short, giving governments the discretion to run deficits does not work out well. In theory, government is supposed to fight recessions with deficits, which should then be replaced during normal times by balanced budgets and surpluses. In practice, deficits do not necessarily have the expansionary effects predicted, nor does deficit reduction necessarily exhibit contractionary effects.

    Moreover, in practice, deficit spending tends to become permanent, not temporary. All of the major countries that have used the Keynesian rationale to justify deficit spending are now on unsustainable fiscal paths. It is all too easy for politicians to provide current services and future promises without raising enough tax revenue to pay for them. Once they are permitted to go down this road, legislators are like drug addicts. The political pain of withdrawal (returning to budget balance) is too high.

    Skuter

    23 Jan 13 at 4:31 pm

  236. Incidentally, the Family ‘Court’ ‘judge’ who ruled that the Italian father was entitled to get his kidnapped daughters back forced the innocent man to undertake not to lay charges against the woman. Yes, really.

    In giving his reasons, Justice Forrest sought an assurance from the father, who was back in Italy, not to lay criminal charges now or in the future against his ex-wife “should she determine to return to Italy as I sincerely hope she does”.

    The father’s Italian-speaking lawyers stepped out of the hearing room to call the father and explain the custody deal before Justice Forrest issued the warrant to return the girls.

    Nice family you’ve got there. Shame if something was to happen to them.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 4:31 pm

  237. Endorsement to access charity tax concessions. ATO.

    Perhaps some digging around here will find out more? ACNC.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:32 pm

  238. “Seriously though, the end result of socialised care is always death panels.”

    Sure, free stuff has to be rationed. But if there was no socialised medicine then poor people would be better of because …

    Seriously, death panels are hardly a valid complaint unless your position is that the public health budget should be unlimited.

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 4:32 pm

  239. Kae,

    I noticed that. But isnt it strange for a person to go around telling everybody they have a charity (which is a Pty Ltd comapny and has no tax deductibility) and not be transparent about what is actually going on? Why, apparently, seek out good legal advice to hide your financial goings on when your running a charity? Why the change in address from the NT to the ACT if your helping remote aboriginals? Why no website apart from some half arsed blog detailing a trip to South Africa? What has she given back to the community from donations received?

    What is the motivation here? Is it all above board?

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 4:32 pm

  240. The 60 Minutes story on those “kidnapped” girls was bizarre. The mother and grandmother should be in mental asylums.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 4:34 pm

  241. Hey, Spot…
    ACNC look up the ABN for the first listed Peris Ent. brings the result:

    “There are no records.”

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:35 pm

  242. “I just saw very sad news for old Angels fans in The Australian”

    No way get fucked fuck off!

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 4:35 pm

  243. Gillard has forced the ALP national executive to hold a formal vote of confidence in her leadership:

    LABOR’S national executive has admitted Olympian Nova Peris as a member of the ALP and paved the way for her to replace Trish Crossin, who’s vowed to fight for her Senate seat.

    The executive’s decision comes despite a growing internal backlash over Julia Gillard’s plan to override Northern Territory Labor and fast-track Ms Peris to the top of the Territory ticket, instead of Senator Crossin.

    ALP national secretary George Wright said members of the ALP national executive had unanimously resolved to admit Ms Peris as a member of the Northern Territory branch and credential her to stand for preselection for the number one position on Labor’s Senate ticket in the NT.

    The executive also unanimously resolved to reopen nominations for the position until 5pm (Darwin time) next Monday and to decide the preselection by a ballot of the national executive on Tuesday if that was required.

    A defiant Senator Crossin said today she planned to fight for her seat in the Senate, despite the Prime Minister effectively dumping her and endorsing Ms Peris as her “captain’s pick”.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 4:35 pm

  244. The curious snail would have to be the saddest little parochial rag in the Murdoch stable ( let’s face it, the NT news is very entertaining). I sometimes suspect the CM is a mouthpiece for the AWU political arm.

    But in this case, with missing children, the judge is out of line.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 4:36 pm

  245. To be eligible for charity status in Aus the organisation must prove that they are a charity. There are hoops.

    Yes, but it’s not very easy for the average joe to check them out, is it.

    Same with other tax-exempt orgs. Look at “our” ABC. Like America’s PBS, they are a non-profit, so anyone should be easily able to inspect their records. I can find out in about 3 clicks what Big Bird gets paid, but not Jonathan Holmes?

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 4:37 pm

  246. It is possible to have a NFP (Not For Profit) organisation and not be registered as a charity or for charitable status, but it seems silly when you’re supposedly doing community work.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:38 pm

  247. The New Power Class Who Will Profit From Obama’s Second Term

    Contrary to the conservative claims of Obama’s “socialist” tendencies, the administration is quite comfortable with such capitalist sectors as entertainment, the news media and the software side of the technology industry, particularly social media. The big difference is these firms derive their fortunes not from the soil and locally crafted manufacturers, but from the manipulation of ideas, concepts and images.

    Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft are far from “the workers of the world,” but closer to modern-day robber barons. Through their own ingenuity, access to capital and often oligopolistic hold on lucrative markets, they have enjoyed one of the greatest accumulations of wealth in recent economic history, even amidst generally declining earnings, rising poverty and inequality among their fellow Americans.

    Last year the tech oligarchs emerged as major political players. Microsoft, Google and their employees were the largest private-sector donors to the president. More important still, tech workers also provided the president and his party with a unique set of digital tools that helped identify potential supporters among traditionally uninformed and disinterested voters, particularly among the young.

    An even greater beneficiary of the second term will be the administrative class, who by their nature live largely outside the market system. This group, which I call the new clerisy, is based largely in academia and the federal bureaucracy, whose numbers and distinct privileges have grown throughout the past half century.

    Interesting and well informed article.

    96% of Donations from the Ivy League Went to Obummer

    That’s a USSR-like statistic.

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 4:41 pm

  248. Every article I can find refers to it being a charity, but it is not registered on the ACNC website.

    Now, where would her interviewers get that idea? Is Nova a compulsive liar? She will fit in well with the ALP

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 4:42 pm

  249. They were great live Pedro. I will confess that many of my lustful teenage thoughts centred on Doc Neeson.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 4:43 pm

  250. Is Rudd going to be the numbers man?

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 4:44 pm

  251. ACNC look up the ABN for the first listed Peris Ent. brings the result:

    “There are no records.”

    Yes, but the ACNC site itself states that it’s just a voluntarily thing:

    Registering with the ACNC is voluntary. An organisation may still be a charity but may choose not to be registered. The ACNC Register only lists charities that have chosen to register

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 4:46 pm

  252. Yes, Dan. It’s very interesting.

    I don’t understand the information on the sites and how they work deeply enough to say she’ll fit right in with the rest of the ALP scum, but I hope someone with more understanding and time to search than I can check it out.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:47 pm

  253. Yeah, Spot.
    Chosen not to register and not to apply for charitable tax exempt status.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 4:48 pm

  254. So, Nova is doing God’s work. Better leave it alone then.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 4:48 pm

  255. California’s Hispanic population to outnumber whites by end of 2013

    California’s Hispanic population is slated to become the state’s majority ethnicity by the end of this year according to a new report by the governor’s office.

    New ethnicity trends outlined in Gov Jerry Brown’s 2013-14 budget proposal revealed the state’s expected new majority while reasoning the state’s declining birth rates and increasing migration as causes.

    As early as July Hispanics are expected to be equal in size to non-Hispanic whites before outpacing them, according to the report, with both demographics in that month reaching 39 per cent of the population.

    It’s a swap that comes earlier than experts had expected.

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 4:49 pm

  256. Every article I can find refers to it being a charity, but it is not registered on the ACNC website.

    Now, where would her interviewers get that idea? Is Nova a compulsive liar?

    I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and say we’re just not looking in the right place. It’s a big deal to accuse someone of being a charity cheat – I wouldn’t like to go there unless I were 100% sure.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 4:49 pm

  257. IIR, not all charitable purposes qualify for tax free status. No ABN is weird unless she’s not actually doing anything that is an enterprise.

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 4:52 pm

  258. According to the LA Slimes’ fvoured ‘experts’:
    Like Lance Armstrong, we are all liars

    Though we profess to hate it, lying is common, useful and pretty much universal. It is one of the most durable threads in our social fabric and an important bulwark of our self-esteem. We start lying by the age of 4 and we do it at least several times a day, researchers have found. And we get better with practice.

    In short, whatever you think about Lance Armstrong’s admission this week that he took performance-enhancing drugs to fuel his illustrious cycling career, the lies he told may be no more persistent or outsized than yours, according to psychologists and others who study deception. They were just more public

    LEAVE THE LYING SLAPPER AND OBUMMER ALONE!

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 4:54 pm

  259. Yea, maybe it’s just a slush fund, those are cool.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 4:57 pm

  260. NY SLIMES: Gore Went to Bat for Al Jazeera, and Himself

    Mr. Beck’s producer Stu Burguiere added, “The guy who was vice president of the United States and was 537 votes away from being president during 9/11 is ideologically aligned, by his own definition, with the network that Osama bin Laden went to every time he wanted to get a message out.”

    Mr. Gore, who will have an unpaid seat on the board of the new Al Jazeera channel, does not see it that way. Al Jazeera, he said, is one of the most popular media companies in the world.

    “Their global reach is unmatched and their coverage of major events like the Arab Spring is thorough, fair and informative,” he said.

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 4:57 pm

  261. Roxon orders charges against newspaper for accurately and helpfully reporting story of woman’s criminal behaviour:

    Actually at the time the courier mail was very supportive of the mother printing interviews with the children alleging abuse by the father. Also publishing photos of them (which is what they are in trouble for I think). The photos were published before they went on the run. The mother was basically using the paper to drum up public support for her case.

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 4:59 pm

  262. skuter
    http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2013/01/social_security_36.html

    sdog, that’s fair enough for now, but I think this needs investigation. It would be funny if kneebone was massaging her cv.

    http://www.territorystories.nt.gov.au/handle/10070/218087

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 5:00 pm

  263. ” “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population, across genders, across races then if you are looking at an outcome where you can see lots of men or not many indigenous Australians, then people of merit are missing out,” she said.”

    For their swift and detailed investigation of the Comrade Senator Nova Peris un-charity personal expenses hoover I say kae and Dan earn a Merit Award.

    My heart swells with fundamental pride that this award can be distributed equally across genders. Here. Today.

    In the pre-Lying Slapper Gillard epoch kae would not have scored a mention.

    I am at once shamed by and grateful for the leadership of Comrade Our Greatly Helmed Person on “merit”.

    Indeed I believe a Gummint Watermelon Authority should be established – tasked with Merit Giveback and Equitable Redistribution so men can surrender their Merits, without penalty during a brief amnesty, so they can be trucked to aborigine peopleses, wimminses and otherly gendered. That last category needs to be validated by that Wong Chap ™Mk50 and Comrade L’il Adammy Bandt.

    I believe Self-loading Automatic Merit Give-Backerers should be summarily charged and gaoled.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 5:01 pm

  264. Here’s an example of what the courier mail was writing about the case:

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/1237_cm1.pdf

    Just printing the mother’s side of the story with no response from the father to the allegations made against him.

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 5:01 pm

  265. Chris, I think you’re little totalitarian beating heart is missing the point that the government is using it’s “unfettered powers” to order charges – not an investigation (which would be bad enough) but straight to charges – of a newspaper. That it’s owned by Murdoch, btw, is just icing on the olive green cake in Von Roxon’s pâtisserie.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 5:03 pm

  266. your not you’re

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 5:04 pm

  267. This just doesn’t add up. No website saying “hello, I’m Nova Peris, you might remember me from such things as my sporting achievements or my aboriginal background. Well, nowadays, I’m touring the country to raise awareness through my charity of the sit down welfare mentality of my people’s. Please donate to help the cause”

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 5:06 pm

  268. Chris, I think you’re little totalitarian beating heart is missing the point that the government is using it’s “unfettered powers” to order charges – not an investigation (which would be bad enough) but straight to charges – of a newspaper. That it’s owned by Murdoch, btw, is just icing on the olive green cake in Von Roxon’s pâtisserie.

    No investigation? Really? From the article linked to:

    The complaint went to the federal Attorney-General’s office before being referred to the AFP on May 22. It in turned launched an investigation into the potential breach of the Family Law Act.

    The complaint originated from the Chief Justice of the family court, not the government. And its pretty clear that the complain was not made because they exposed any criminal background of the mother as CL alleged. The paper was supporting the mother in her campaign.

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 5:07 pm

  269. sdog, that’s fair enough for now, but I think this needs investigation.

    Yep. Agreed.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 5:07 pm

  270. Afternoon Troops, regarding Nova Peris her ‘charity’ is a consulting company.

    http://www.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?archive_id=0&page_id=5036179069&page_url=//www.novaperis.com.au/niash.html&page_last_updated=2010-11-10T19:38:14&firstName=Nova&lastName=Peris

    http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Peris_Nova_139349662.aspx

    Via the 2nd link – Nova created Peris Enterprises, her consulting company committed to implementing culturally sensitive communication strategies and event management for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.

    My bolding.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 5:08 pm

  271. That’s a great link to newgeography.com, JamesK:

    Academics, for example, increasingly regulate speech along politically correct lines, and indoctrinate the young while the media shape their perceptions of reality.

    The new left fascist technocrats, who already control academia and the bureaucracy and effectively rule the country according to leftist groupthink regardless of which party is in power, despise democracy, are working towards neutering it and, especially in Australia, depend on the apathy of the masses to go wherever they’re being led.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 5:09 pm

  272. Okay, details, details, CHris. My comment on the government still stands. That you cannot see the egregiousness of what the government is doing, via its various agencies and promoted by the AG, in it’s heavy-handed approach to free press just makes it worse. Bring on the Finkelstein, says Chris. Who needs a free press anyway, eh?

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 5:10 pm

  273. Every Bio is the same…. Athlete, adversity, charity.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 5:10 pm

  274. Well either way the coverage by theCM was appalling. and say the father does try to prosecute the mother in Italy, what could the Australian court do about it? Send a strongly worded letter?

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 5:12 pm

  275. In giving his reasons, Justice Forrest sought an assurance from the father, who was back in Italy, not to lay criminal charges now or in the future against his ex-wife “should she determine to return to Italy as I sincerely hope she does”.

    I hope he does anyway. What’s Justice Forrest going to do?

    Eddystone

    23 Jan 13 at 5:12 pm

  276. The Professor of Public Ethics at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics and the Vice-Chancellor’s Chair in Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University – will be long remembered for stating:

    This is because the implications of 3C, let alone 4C or 5C, are so horrible that we look to any possible scenario to head it off, including the canvassing of “emergency” responses such as the suspension of democratic processes.

    Myrrdin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 5:13 pm

  277. The photos were published before they went on the run.

    From the report today:

    When the News Limited paper published the identities of the girls, they were on the run with their great-grandmother and their mother was appealing a court decision to send them back to Italy for custody hearings.

    Wrong again, Chris.

    Here’s a tip: research what you post before you press the submit button.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 5:13 pm

  278. I like your new avatar, Gab.

    Eddystone

    23 Jan 13 at 5:14 pm


  279. Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft are far from “the workers of the world,” but closer to modern-day robber barons. Through their own ingenuity, access to capital and often oligopolistic hold on lucrative markets, they have enjoyed one of the greatest accumulations of wealth in recent economic history, even amidst generally declining earnings, rising poverty and inequality among their fellow Americans.


    Nothing to do with their ability to churn out desirable products. Oh, no. They must be ripping someone off, most likely amongst those stick in rising poverty and inequality.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 5:14 pm

  280. Afternoon Troops, regarding Nova Peris her ‘charity’ is a consulting company.

    A government website calls it a “charity”. As do numerous news sources. I can’t imagine where they got that idea.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 5:15 pm

  281. government website calls it a “charity”.

    Well if nothing else sdog, she has a Gillard level of bullshit.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 5:18 pm

  282. The complaint originated from the Chief Justice of the family court…

    As I reported above.

    And from that point:

    The complaint went to the federal Attorney-General’s office before being referred to the AFP on May 22. It in turned launched an investigation into the potential breach of the Family Law Act.

    It was Roxon who referred the matter to the police.

    So Chris is wrong again.

    And its pretty clear that the complain was not made because they exposed any criminal background of the mother as CL alleged.

    I have made no such allegation or even anything approximating it.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 5:18 pm

  283. The question is does Peris call it a charity? It would be most unfair for her to be targeted for misrepresentation because of some braindea spin from the PM’s office. Mind you, lay down with dogs: get fleas.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 5:19 pm

  284. Now the web is over run with stories about the brouhaha I can’t find out how to book her for an appointment at a local school.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 5:19 pm

  285. The Professor of Public Ethics at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics and the Vice-Chancellor’s Chair in Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University

    The man is an embarrassment to my Alma Mater, another good reason not to join Alumni Associations.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 5:20 pm

  286. “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population, across genders, across races then if you are looking at an outcome where you can see lots of men or not many indigenous Australians, then people of merit are missing out,” she said.”

    WTF does this even mean? It deosn’t make any sense to me.

    Does she mean that innate ability is distributed equitably blah blah? Even if we take that as what she meant, it is a rubbish statement. Gillard has seriously lost her marbles, in addition to being a lying slapper…

    Skuter

    23 Jan 13 at 5:20 pm

  287. Auburn shooting police arrest four so far. The usual suspects? No names yet. MOMMEA? We shall see.

    stackja

    23 Jan 13 at 5:22 pm

  288. Ha ha, love this comment on the CM article on Peris:


    magillagorilla of Nassau Posted at 9:59 AM Today
    Why stop there Julia. Surely you can preselect Anthony Mundine for the seat of Griffith and boot the sitting member.
    Comment 107 of 112

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 5:24 pm

  289. If she doesn’t call it a charity, why is it reported as such and why does she not correct the record?

    Basically, peris enterprises is a way for her to earn income. It still sounds suspect.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 5:24 pm

  290. The question is does Peris call it a charity?

    The government website lists as its source for the charity claim “Source: The Official Nova Peris Website, accessed 22 February 2010.”

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 5:25 pm

  291. I suppose we should be happy she has not tried to get a government grant.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 5:28 pm

  292. sdog, that govt website specifies the source.

    Pedro

    23 Jan 13 at 5:29 pm

  293. The government website above says:

    Through her charity “Peris Enterprises” she continues to advocate and promote an active lifestyle and health checks among Indigenous children and communities.


    If that is what it spends most of its money on it’s probably not a problem. If ninety percent or so goes to pay the Peris’ wages, house and travel that would be different.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 5:30 pm

  294. “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population”

    Everybody has merit, only winners take first prize

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 5:30 pm

  295. Entropy – sdogs link has the line;

    Through her charity “Peris Enterprise

    Go up a bit further to the links i found;

    Nova created Peris Enterprises, her consulting company committed to implementing culturally sensitive communication strategies and event management for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.

    the 1st link was cached in 2010, the 2nd is from 2011

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 5:36 pm

  296. my bolding

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 5:37 pm

  297. Oh, Carpe!

    A charitable consultancy company with shareholders.

    Interesting.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 5:37 pm

  298. Roxon orders charges against newspaper

    You think we’ve got problems. Try a media controlled by the ‘colleagues’ in the EU

    Lazlo

    23 Jan 13 at 5:38 pm

  299. RIO Tinto says its policy of giving more generous redundancy payouts to non-union workers is fair, as a union launches a court challenge.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news#ixzz2ImICEwlA

    Of course it’s fair. Union members are constrained by union rules and union dictated job conditions. Suck it up, chumps.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 5:38 pm

  300. “The question is does Peris call it a charity? It would be most unfair for her to be targeted for misrepresentation …”

    What I see in these several not-really-web-sites about Comrade Our Nova Now is achievements from 16 years ago and longer, to do with running and gongs given for it.

    If Mick dot com did that you’d all tear into me for living in the past!

    Has she done – ummmm – anything much since, like a five day a week job?

    “Nova created Peris Enterprises, her consulting company committed to implementing culturally sensitive communication strategies and event management for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities”

    It is standard practice for consulting companies to have wee pages extolling their expertise, entitled Current Projects, Completed Projects, Clients, Latest News and so on, touting for more business based on their most excellent performance to date as a consultant.

    I wonder what her most recent “communication strategy” strategy was, and what “event management” events she managed last year and in 2011?

    There is no such Peris Enterprises web site!

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 5:40 pm

  301. Nova Peris: I really think that people just don’t realise, in 1967 Aboriginal people were given citizenship rights in this country

    That is just not correct. They became Australian citizens in 1949 along with everyone else.

    I am not a “first Australian” or even a second, or third, or fourth, but even I know that.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 5:41 pm

  302. A charitable for profit consultancy company with shareholders.

    Hi Kae – my little add in.

    BTW – her company is very sparse on the information it gives up apart from vague platitudes.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 5:42 pm

  303. CL – yes sorry, your right about that bit. But wrong in saying the courier mail was referred to the police for being critical of the mother. That much is very clear. They were strong advocates for her cause.

    Well either way the coverage by theCM was appalling. and say the father does try to prosecute the mother in Italy, what could the Australian court do about it? Send a strongly worded letter?

    In practice there would be very little he could do. Though the father has subsequently said she is welcome to travel to Italy to be able to get access time with the children. I think he’s been incredibly good about it.

    Okay, details, details, CHris. My comment on the government still stands. That you cannot see the egregiousness of what the government is doing, via its various agencies and promoted by the AG, in it’s heavy-handed approach to free press just makes it worse. Bring on the Finkelstein, says Chris. Who needs a free press anyway

    Suppression orders are hardly a new thing. Even if they’re increasingly irrelevant these days with the difficulty of enforcing them.

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 5:44 pm

  304. You have to wonder how much time & thought Julia gave to this “Captain’s choice”.

    Vetting, anyone?

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 5:44 pm

  305. Like Al Gore’s charity selling carbon credits?

    Sounds like the same type of scheme.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 5:45 pm

  306. Spot
    When she said it was her choice and what she says goes, she was pretty um, straight-faced.

    Botox.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 5:46 pm

  307. “Captain’s choice”.

    Sounds like he had fish for dinner. ‘We’ve been got a good haul today, Cap’n. Lots of them fish, a varied lot too. What’s your pleasure for dinner?”

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 5:47 pm

  308. Craig Thomson funded a charity for ladies.

    stackja

    23 Jan 13 at 5:49 pm

  309. “Vetting, anyone?”

    The ALP does a different kind of vetting sdog.

    For example, when the FBI files were called in on that grubby little man they made Speaker, revealing his curious after work idiosyncracies, I’d say the ALP Vetting Committee collectively gasped, exclaiming “Oh capital show chaps, he’ll fit in just perfectly by jove.”

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 5:51 pm

  310. JC, if you’re there, so much for that Japanese inflation target
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/22/bank_of_japan_punts_on_higher_inflation_target.html

    They are absolutely fucking useless, Pedro. The new PM talked about aiming the big guns and we ended up with a pop gun.

    I honestly don;t understand the mentality, never have which is why I have really made money in that shithole.

    This is basically what they telegraphed to the market.

    “oh look everyone, we’re going to keep the 1% inflation target for the rest of this year and then raise it to 2% next year”

    .

    Fucking morons.

    Also look at what they are really signaling…

    we sorta expect the economy to muddle along this year but we may need the big guns in 14 which is when we expect even steeper slowing.

    I got the fuck out of everything last yesterday and actually went the opposite way. I made really good paper profits which then turned into oakish small profits and now doing well going long the Yen because Japan is basically a country run by a bunch of clowns.

    They really are freaking clowns.

    I’m even thinking of going more long the Yen because the market seem to be caught dreadfully short yen.

    The Japanese PM, the finance Minister and the board of the BOJ ought to be placed in leg irons and thrown over the side of a boat in Tokyo Bay.

    I’ve been so disgusted in these idiots I almost didn’t look at screens all day.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 5:51 pm

  311. CL – from your original link

    Roxon orders charges against newspaper for accurately and helpfully reporting story of woman’s criminal behaviour:

    Roxon did not order any charges. She referred the matter to the AFP for *investigation*. And only after she was referred the matter herself in the first place by the Chief Justice of the family court. Don’t the police require someone to make a complaint for them to investigate in cases like this?

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 5:51 pm

  312. The stupid thing is, for all I know Peris could be a phenomenal person and, if elected in her own right, a fine Senator. It’s just the way Gillard does everything so cack-handedly that raises my hackles.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 5:53 pm

  313. The stupid thing is, for all I know Peris could be a phenomenal person and, if elected in her own right, a fine Senator. It’s just the way Gillard does everything so cack-handedly that raises my hackles.

    In a relative sense, sure, like comparing liar party senators.

    But Dude, you realize you’re talking about a Liars Party recruit and a someone individually chosen by the slapper.

    The chances are not zero that she will be a splendid senator, but it’s close enough to place your enthusiasm in question… lots.

    In other words, stop dreaming and get real. :-)

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 5:57 pm

  314. I’m a big softy JC :-D

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 6:03 pm


  315. “Nova created Peris Enterprises, her consulting company committed to implementing culturally sensitive communication strategies and event management for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities”


    So more like a vehicle for business/tax purposes, similar to the arrangements for ABC talking heads. Didn’t Peris do a stint on ATSIC too?

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 6:04 pm

  316. Didn’t Peris do a stint on ATSIC too?

    She was also an ATSIC Ambassador, whilst consulting.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 6:06 pm

  317. I’m a big softy JC

    Yea, i see. Harden the fuck up man. For a Duke university alumni I was almost shattered by that bit of softockery. The football team was never like that. You obviously didn’t sneak in on a football scholarship.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 6:08 pm

  318. Does she solicit donations?

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 6:08 pm

  319. “Don’t the police require someone to make a complaint for them to investigate in cases like this?”

    I’m a bit more concerned about the investigation being completed by now. Plod – the pretend Federal lot – only got asked to do something on May 22. They simply cannot do stuff that quickly. Did they have some school holiday work experience kiddies in for that period?

    And Chris, as to:

    “Roxon did not order any charges”

    can you not visualise the chief clerk in Comrade Limp and Dank Haired’s office striding across the room bellowing “Drop everything you lot! This request is from the Chief Justice of The All Men are Bastards Court” and the chief clerk of the AFP bellowing similarly … “Drop everything you lot! This request is from the Attorney General no less!”?

    She’d have been onto the phone the instant she sensed a Skewer Rupert opportunity “Comrade Mzzzzz Chief Justice, jot this down and send it to me on your letterhead today – today I said!”

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 6:12 pm

  320. Roxon did not order any charges.

    So what, she insinuated herself in the case, when it appeared there was no need.

    She referred the matter to the AFP for *investigation*.

    Again, there was no need.

    And only after she was referred the matter herself in the first place by the Chief Justice of the family court.

    Why would that fucking idiot refer a case to Von Roxon? What he needed hand holding?

    Don’t the police require someone to make a complaint for them to investigate in cases like this?

    They do, but why Von Roxon. Furthermore if Von Roxon is so quick to pull the trigger on this matter then why not refer both Creeper Thompson and the Lying Slapper to the AFP? Ummm.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 6:12 pm

  321. Nova is very busy indeed

    But perhaps the most extraordinary achievement Nova has had that is the establishment of the Nova Peris Girls Academy (NGPA) in St Johns College, Darwin.

    Over the last 3 years Nova has spent extensive time researching global best-in-class models of mentoring, supporting, educating and engaging young Indigenous girls. She then set up the NGPA which is an innovative female focused school ‘Life Excellence’ program aimed at keeping Aboriginal Girls’ engaged with education.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 6:13 pm

  322. It’s marvellous how a university lecturer can be a traditional aboriginal, as witnessed by Mary Graham on Richard Fidler’s Conversations (ABC Radio).If you can be bothered to listen to the best part of an hour of twaddle, you’ll be told a whole pile of mystical stuff like “The land knows its own people, it hears their language and knows their sweat.”
    According to Mary, the land was a veritable National Health Scheme. We’re used to this sort of Romancing The Stone Age, the attempts to portray it all as more noble than savage. More honest summations, by aborigines themselves, might run something along the lines of fighting, fighting, for domain over land and women.
    But the ABC and the luvvies are always ready to take people like Mary at face value, taking on the bits they like, skipping over the inconvenient truths. Her education began because there were books in the house. This may have been “traditional” then, not so much now.
    What really emerges from this story is that having a work ethic gets you places. And for some, self-identifying has become an important career move.
    But re those pale ones “The whites knew who was aboriginal, and they beat them.”
    But you can’t become aboriginal like you can become Jewish.
    Marriage doesn’t make you aboriginal, but you can become part of the Great Matrix.
    Is understanding an aboriginal world view what reconciliation is about? Well, there’s no Justice. You can’t have reconciliation wihtout justice, like Paul Keating talked about. And the big elephant in the room: Sovereignty! She wants everyone to re-look at their status. We have to work out some self-determination, and a struggle must have leaders, and a goal, and self determination must have sovereignty.
    What’s needed is more clan groups handling their own affairs, not a few whites or a few blacks speaking for everyone.
    The natural way is the small local way. How do you get to be an old country? Be more like the aboriginals.
    Can you bear it?

    blogstrop

    23 Jan 13 at 6:14 pm

  323. That would be pretty admirable.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 6:15 pm

  324. A bit more on Nova Peris ‘charity’ consulting from o6/07 (i havn’t searched for more recent years);

    http://www.health.gov.au/internet/annrpt/publishing.nsf/Content/consultancy-services-3

    Now go down to Outcome 8 – Indiginous Health and you will find Nova Maree Peris has done quite well out of the tender process.

    Peris, Nova Maree
    Indigenous child health check roadshow.
    302,154
    Direct Sourcing
    B

    Peris, Nova Maree
    Expert advice on Indigenous child health.
    34,845
    Direct Sourcing
    B

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 6:16 pm

  325. “The stupid thing is, for all I know Peris could be a phenomenal person and …”

    Oh sdog! Read Dan’s “Borderline vacuous. Interview with Andrew Denton” at 9:56am, go out into the stairwell and give yourself an uppercut!

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 6:17 pm

  326. Between Rudd & Crossin, the Emily’s Listers have confirmed that they support both early & late term career abortion.

    You go girls!

    Rousie

    23 Jan 13 at 6:24 pm

  327. Ack. OK, so she’s a chucklehead.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 6:25 pm

  328. Guess who posted this elsewhere.

    His comments on Catallaxy have never struck me as anything other than reasonable and rational, never foolish or dogmatic. Given that cesspool, I wish he commented there more frequently!

    http://johnquiggin.com/2013/01/14/sandpit-23/comment-page-2/#comment-192847

    You begin to wonder why these types comment here so frequently.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 6:26 pm

  329. Between Rudd & Crossin, the Emily’s Listers have confirmed that they support both early & late term career abortion.

    You go girls!

    Is Rudd a Lister? It wouldn’t shock.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 6:27 pm

  330. this sort of Romancing The Stone Age

    Bwhaahahahaha

    81Alpha

    23 Jan 13 at 6:27 pm

  331. Mentions in the MSM = 0.

    Winston Smith

    23 Jan 13 at 6:30 pm

  332. Oh this is good.

    Her motto for the girl’s school?

    “Educate a boy and you educate an individual. Educate a girl and you educate a community.”

    Whose catchphrase was that?

    Greg Mortenson, Charity Fraud.

    Oh dear.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 6:30 pm

  333. More tales from the Nova Dreamtime. Leftys love a Noble Savage.

    H B Bear

    23 Jan 13 at 6:31 pm

  334. cesspool

    Must be an example of the civility the left goes on and on about.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 6:32 pm

  335. Looking forward to improved cyber securiddy from a government that after six years cannot stop 17yo boys in wooden fishing boats breaching Australian maritime borders.

    H B Bear

    23 Jan 13 at 6:37 pm

  336. Spot, that motto would have to be one of the most sexist things I’ve ever heard.

    Winston Smith

    23 Jan 13 at 6:39 pm

  337. I watched Gilda last night, Gab.

    Entropy

    23 Jan 13 at 6:40 pm

  338. The stupid thing is, for all I know Peris could be a phenomenal person and, if elected in her own right, a fine Senator. It’s just the way Gillard does everything so cack-handedly that raises my hackles.

    Exactly, sdog. Like I said above, the slapper has done Peris a massive disservice. The ALP national executive knows this. That’s why they moved into damage control and reinstated the pre-selection. However, that move damages the slapper’s authority. I suppose, as someone else (dot maybe?) said above, we’d best not disrupt these arseholes whilst they’re making a mistake…

    Skuter

    23 Jan 13 at 6:41 pm

  339. Hmmmm, from the link I posted above

    This story was written by Scott Appleton, NPGA Operations Manager.

    So, what does Scott do in his spare time

    http://www.sandersonmiddle.nt.edu.au/documents/Newsletter.pdf

    Hmmm, which links to this place

    Clontarf.org.au

    Okayyy, then thisarticles

    The boys got the chance to mingle with the Chief Minister who is a big Clontarf advocate as will as the chance to meet sporting star’s of yester years: Michael Long, Nova Peris, Anthony Koatoufides, Syd Jackson and John Barnes.

    Fair enough, they have an annual report

    Income Tax
    No provision for income tax has been raised, as the entity is exempt from income tax under Div 50 of the Income Tax Assessment Act 1997.

    Employee benefits.

    11,731,286 (2011)
    9,544,97(2010)

    But she is a consultant, so who knows

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 6:42 pm

  340. Hope you enjoyed the show, Ent. Damn, she was glamorous, glorious, a vixen, a charmer, temptress, coquettish…all rolled up with that girl-next-door-apple-pie smile.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 6:44 pm

  341. Whoops, the two links quota got me into moderation town….

    But jeez this nova consultancy thing is interesting. I gather the charity aspect from the news reports comes from the fact she does a lot of consulting for actual registered charitable organisations.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 6:46 pm

  342. Earning the big bucks…

    Gillard outlines national security strategy.

    She says terrorism is a key national security risk.

    Government by announcement again. All big puffed-up talk, no new policy initiatives nor any comment on how it will be funded.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 6:51 pm

  343. I gather the charity aspect from the news reports comes from the fact she does a lot of consulting for actual registered charitable organisations.

    A large New York ad/pr agency does some video work for several very good charities that I know of.

    The founder of the ad agency does not go around using that fact as a basis to claim that he founded a charity.

    This is what an official NT government website says:

    Through her charity “Peris Enterprises” she continues to advocate and promote an active lifestyle and health checks among Indigenous children and communities. [bold mine]

    Source: The Official Nova Peris Website, accessed 22 February 2010.

    http://www.territorystories.nt.gov.au/handle/10070/218087

    So who originally made the claim that her consulting business was a charity? The website makes it sound like it came from her, but with no link it’s hard to say.

    sdog

    23 Jan 13 at 7:01 pm

  344. Good luck with this debacle, Julia.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 7:03 pm

  345. I wonder when this will be “cleared up”?

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 7:03 pm

  346. Government by announcement again. All big puffed-up talk, no new policy initiatives nor any comment on how it will be funded.

    Gab doncha know? it’s government by media release, just read and regurgitate, it’s the Layba way.

    Tintarella di Luna

    23 Jan 13 at 7:04 pm

  347. Expert advice on Indigenous child health.

    So she is a health professional now? None of that in her Bio.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 7:06 pm

  348. nor any comment on how it will be funded.

    Come now Gab, it will be funded by Rainbows, Unicorns and Fairy Farts. That is the alp modus operandi.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 7:08 pm

  349. Wait. I get it.

    Nothing will be said so therefore it will be ignored.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 7:09 pm

  350. Dog

    It smells to me as sinkhole for gov cash with the money nicely clipped before the cash hits the streets

    Jc 

    23 Jan 13 at 7:11 pm

  351. I think Ernie Dingo does the same sort of work, but doesn’t call it charity. He ought not take any calls for a while.

    The St Johns college thing sounds all right? And I don’t think it’s fair to cane her cause she’s set up a consulting job and hooked in. If it comes to pass that she’s never referred to it as a charity then there’s nothing to chuck rocks at. She mightn’t be all that smart but that’s not a disqualifier.

    Heaps more fun is watching Alison bash The Party generally.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 7:16 pm

  352. It would be really interesting to check the source of the money that hits the so called charity’s account .

    Unless I’m mistaken charities accounts are on the web. If this isn’t then you are very likely to find they’re licking up taxpayer dollars

    Jc 

    23 Jan 13 at 7:16 pm

  353. ABC TV News does a story on heavy rain in Tully, QLD.
    The Tully/Innisfail area used to be known to geography students as the highest rainfall region in Australia. Do they still teach such things?
    The local policeman said it happens every year and the residents are used to it.

    blogstrop

    23 Jan 13 at 7:17 pm

  354. Heavens. Global Warming. Then Climate Change. Now its changed back!
    ABC will be shouting for more carbon tax to stop the weather staying the same.

    WhaleHunt Fun

    23 Jan 13 at 7:23 pm

  355. Guess who posted this elsewhere.

    What a surprise JC. He is a great match for Fran Barlow.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 7:30 pm

  356. stackja

    23 Jan 13 at 7:30 pm

  357. From sdog’s first link at 6.30. The one month Capetown trip funded by…..?

    So now as we were exiting the island and walking towards the boat for our departure, Scott whisked me away to a near by table located under a beautiful big tree. He knelt down on one knee. Looked me in my eyes and said “It’s been one year to the day since I laid eyes on you, you have made me very happy and I love you. Will you marry me”? My eyes welled up with tears; it was one of the happiest days of my life. It was perfect. He then took a ring box out of his pocket and opened the box. There before my eyes one whole carrot diamond.

    Steve of Ferny Hills

    23 Jan 13 at 7:41 pm

  358. What a surprise JC. He is a great match for Fran Barlow.

    Yea token. If its a cesspool he’s just passing through :-)

    Jc 

    23 Jan 13 at 7:45 pm

  359. Tully/Innisfail

    Gorgeous area visited often to see some of the best customers evah. Salt of the earth types with keen business acumen.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 7:50 pm

  360. I notice when he’s not around, the cesspoll smell disappears.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 7:56 pm

  361. There before my eyes one whole carrot diamond.

    LOL

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 7:56 pm

  362. Whacha laughing at, Tom?

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 8:00 pm

  363. Pickles, fair enough.

    Steve of FH. Gush, gush, gush.

    For me to have been proposed to was just amazing. There was an island that people were sent to because of the supremacy of white South Africa, and here was a white man, getting down on one knee to propose his love and devote his life to a black woman. There are so many synergies that I became the happiest person I believe that day.</blockquote>

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 8:02 pm

  364. It’s a nice carrot. I likes it, my precious.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 8:03 pm

  365. That your Bugs Bunny memento from Disney World, Gab? Paris or Orlando?

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 8:05 pm

  366. I am constantly amazed by the tenuous connection made between aboriginal Australians and South African blacks, American blacks and native Americans.

    There. Is. No. Comparison.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 8:06 pm

  367. Kae, I know Samoans who call each other n*#ger.

    Dan

    23 Jan 13 at 8:09 pm

  368. There. Is. No. Comparison.

    It should be a matter of great pride for all aboriginals, considering the poor way they were treated, they never stooped to terrorism and killing the way the South African blacks did.

    Token

    23 Jan 13 at 8:10 pm

  369. Hardy har har, Tom. :P

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 8:12 pm

  370. The Samoans are morons, then.

    Like the gang members and rappers in the local indigenous community. Wannabes.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 8:16 pm

  371. Damn, she was glamorous, glorious, a vixen, a charmer, temptress, coquettish…all rolled up with that girl-next-door-apple-pie smile.

    She is probably my all-time favorite too, Gab. Even when she was Miss Sadie Thompson and played a girl who was very bad indeed. Reworked from Somerset Maugham’s ‘Rain’. I love his stories too. I have some very retro tastes and fantasise that I am a mix of Marilyn Monroe and Rita Hayworth (I know I am not).

    Why did women in the 50′s always look so fresh and wholesome, compared to the thin and artificial looks girls go for today? I am not too thin, btw, but athletic and healthily covered. HIA would not like a lady without curves (he shares that with CL and probably most men I suspect, altho’ not everyone is quite so fetishistic as CL about totally globular bottomses and massively rounded hips).

    ps. I have a red satin lace-up bustier (corset for the uninitiated) in which I look quite hippish (no, not hippy, or hepcat, but hippish or rounded hipped). Also rather big-bustish in it. These garments have their appeal for non-public or burlesque-dancing girls-only wearing. You can’t breathe, but so what?

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 8:21 pm

  372. Ever had one of those days when you find yourself stuck with a song in your head, not knowing how it got there but it was there before you even realised its presence? I had that today, only when I got rid of one, I found myself with another a bit later, whizzing around in my head unbidden. And why oh why (Who Wrote) the Book of Love and now it’s the Lonely Goatherd (Sound of Music, of all things!). Fleeced can empathise.
    I have a weird mind.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 8:21 pm

  373. Now if somebody already in parliament was to self-identify as aboriginal, the claim that Nova was to be the first would be, er … scotched.
    And nobody could object.

    blogstrop

    23 Jan 13 at 8:26 pm

  374. You think you have a weird mind?

    Cheer up Gab, start worrying when the jingle stuck in your head is

    “We are Woolworth’s the Fresh Food People
    Bringing lower prices to you”.

    (help!)

    Poor Old Rafe

    23 Jan 13 at 8:30 pm

  375. Am all cheered up after that, Rafe! Poor you.

    (help!)

    How about this then?

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 8:34 pm

  376. The Coles song drives me nuts.

    Tah-dah!

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 8:34 pm

  377. So she is a health professional now? None of that in her Bio.

    It’s the vibe.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 8:35 pm

  378. But wrong in saying the courier mail was referred to the police for being critical of the mother.

    I didn’t say the Courier Mail was referred to the police for being critical of the mother. I wrote:

    Extraordinary privileges and indulgence were afforded to the women behind the unlawful kidnapping of the four sisters. If they were men, they’d be doing hard time in the Big House. It was a shocking look for the Family ‘Court’ whose Chief Justice (a woman, natch) was the one who referred the Courier to the police. I can understand why she and the sisterhood resented the attention of a (formerly) free press.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 8:37 pm

  379. Thanks for planting the effing supermarket jingles in my head people. I now have to mourn, again, the tragedy of what Status Quo are now reduced to.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 8:43 pm

  380. I have a red lace satin bustier…in which I look quite hippish…Also rather big bustish…

    Lizzie, have you forgotten that testosterone responds to visual stimulation.

    ella

    23 Jan 13 at 8:43 pm

  381. why oh why (Who Wrote) the Book of Love and now it’s the Lonely Goatherd (Sound of Music, of all things!).

    You should be so lucky and impervious to the modern junk on the radio. They’re classics!

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 8:43 pm

  382. Poor old Rafe
    we are the fresh food people bringing old lettuces to you.
    I hate that but its eminently suitable for singing mindless songs in your brain
    I feel like chicken tonight.

    Aliice

    23 Jan 13 at 8:44 pm

  383. …not everyone is quite so fetishistic as CL about totally globular bottomses and massively rounded hips.

    I don’t have any ‘fetishes,’ particularly.

    I like women who look like women. They may be petite or they may be more full-figured. Natural is what I like – and it’s the natural elegance of the 1950s that has been lost by many women today.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 8:44 pm

  384. Check out the fashions. The lady at the piano was having fun.

    stackja

    23 Jan 13 at 8:45 pm

  385. “Why did women in the 50′s always look so fresh and wholesome, compared to the thin and artificial looks girls go for today?”

    Different cultural expectations.

    Jarrah

    23 Jan 13 at 8:47 pm

  386. in which I look quite hippish

    Pickles, don’t mention bloomers ;)

    Septimus

    23 Jan 13 at 8:49 pm

  387. In Melbourne, we have an advertising troll who voices his own radio ads. Guy’s an egomaniac who sets out to annoy people with a whiny, rasping, shouty voice. Shop’s called National Tiles. He is a rolled-gold arsehole and causes me to abandon my favorite commercial stations with the infrared remote. Almost as annoying as that troll who’s no longer here. I’d like to firebomb his shop.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 8:50 pm

  388. lol “fashion”- is that what they called it back then, Stackja? Thanks for the clip, btw.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 8:51 pm

  389. Welcome back to the cesspool, Jazzabelle. Couldn’t stay away even though we’re beneath you?

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 8:54 pm

  390. If they were men, they’d be doing hard time in the Big House.

    True. All care and attention for women, special Women’s Rooms and Legal Aid, with tea and biccies laid on, but nothing for distressed men. The very floorplan tells them what they can expect.

    I am so glad my ex and I managed to keep out of this system. Best thing ever for our kids.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 8:54 pm

  391. Lizzie, have you forgotten that testosterone responds to visual stimulation.

    Ella, you’re kidding me, right?

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 8:56 pm

  392. What a douchebag David Cameron is. He has “ruled out” an immediate referendum on Britain’s EU membership…

    …saying that the turmoil within the 17-nation zone which uses the euro single currency, of which Britain is not a member, meant that the broader European Union was heading for sweeping reforms which his government wanted to influence.

    Real reason: he hopes that five years will be sufficient to con enough voters to stay in the ludicrous and authoritarian organisation. But the people are not allowed to have their say now – because he says they can’t.

    And Barack Obama ‘insists’ that Britons stay in the EU, reports the New York Times:

    The United States has been unusually public in its insistence that Britain, a close ally, stay in the union.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 8:57 pm

  393. Septimus I know not of what you speak.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 9:00 pm

  394. I don’t have any ‘fetishes,’ particularly.

    CL, I must have looked at that gif of Joanie from Mad Men that you linked for one too many repetitions. :)

    I think it was the camera angle. I’ve always been a fan of Joan.

    I’m with you on the women-being-women look. I like to eat. Which we are now about to do. Pork chops and buttered potatoes and broccoli. With a nourishing salad. Followed by blue cheese and halva. Yum yum.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 9:01 pm

  395. “It would be really interesting to check the source of the money that hits the so called charity’s account .

    Unless I’m mistaken charities accounts are on the web. If this isn’t then you are very likely to find they’re licking up taxpayer dollars”

    JC – see Carpe Jugulum at 6:16pm:

    “A bit more on Nova Peris ‘charity’ consulting from 06/07 (i havn’t searched for more recent years);

    http://www.health.gov.au/internet/annrpt/publishing.nsf/Content/consultancy-services-3

    Now go down to Outcome 8 – Indiginous Health and you will find Nova Maree Peris has done quite well out of the tender process.

    Indigenous child health check roadshow $302,154

    Expert advice on Indigenous child health $34,845″

    Comrade Our Nova is “licking up taxpayer dollars”, no purer than the rest of ‘em. Sprinted past the finish line in the last race and ambled straight over to join the other pigs slurping at the taxpayer trough.

    Is there anyone from that lot who is not living well on the gummint?

    When lovely Nova fronted so readily for the cameras with Comrade The Lying Slapper I was suspicious about who was up who for the rent, right from the jump.

    I’ve been watching and wondering at this low grade high cost bullship since Comrade Gough the Great made Moss Cass minister back in ’73-ish and appointed hate filled aborigine racist Charlie Perkins aboriginal affairs departmental head. Not one of ‘em has a scintilla of honesty or credibility.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 9:02 pm

  396. Dinner accompanied by the B-Gees on ABC. Songs I like. HIA enthralled.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 9:03 pm

  397. Lazlo’s 5:38 pm link:

    EU officials hope to use Leveson’s proposals to ensure British press promotes ‘European values’.

    Bruno Waterfield, the Telegraph’s man in Brussels, has uncovered a truly shocking story. Apparently, a “high level” EU panel has recommended the creation of “independent media councils” in every EU member state with wide-ranging, draconian powers.

    “All EU countries should have independent media councils,” the panel concluded. “Media councils should have real enforcement powers, such as the imposition of fines, orders for printed or broadcast apologies, or removal of journalistic status.”

    But if you think that sounds bad, wait till you hear the marmalade-dropper. In the words of the panel: “The national media councils should follow a set of European-wide standards and be monitored by the Commission to ensure that they comply with European values.”

    Comply with European values? Lord help us.

    It never ceases to amaze me that an organisation putatively created to avert another European conflagration on fascistic lines becomes more and more fascist by the year. And David Cameron wonders why his countrymen want out.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 9:04 pm

  398. I like to eat.

    YAY.

    Men love women who like their food.

    I didn’t mean to sound doctrinal about women’s appearances, by the way, Lizzie. I’m very sympathetic to women and girls and the pressures they’re placed under by culture, media and – yes – men.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 9:09 pm

  399. Beautiful glowing buttermilk-coloured moon out tonight. Have a look and give Neil Armstrong a wink.
    ———————

    We now resume out normal transmission.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 9:10 pm

  400. CL on

    the natural elegance of the women of the 1950s?

    You mean like this – more like the reality? (curlers – so very 1950s)

    http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/hair%20rollers

    Aliice

    23 Jan 13 at 9:11 pm

  401. In Melbourne, we have an advertising troll who voices his own radio ads. Guy’s an egomaniac who sets out to annoy people with a whiny, rasping, shouty voice. Shop’s called National Tiles. He is a rolled-gold arsehole and causes me to abandon my favorite commercial stations with the infrared remote. Almost as annoying as that troll who’s no longer here. I’d like to firebomb his shop.

    FRANK Waaaalker heeeere from

    Naational tiiiiiiiiilesssssss….

    .

    23 Jan 13 at 9:11 pm

  402. You left out the Helllllllloooooooo, Dot.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 9:12 pm

  403. Frank Walker has come a long way since Virginia Purger. Or was it Perger.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 9:17 pm

  404. Now if somebody already in parliament was to self-identify as aboriginal, the claim that Nova was to be the first would be, er …

    How delicious if Crossin announced at a presser that she now identified as aboriginal. She could really skewer the whole industry in one go

    Rousie

    23 Jan 13 at 9:19 pm

  405. “Men love women who like their food.”

    On behalf of women everywhere C.L., bless you.

    Tracey

    23 Jan 13 at 9:19 pm

  406. Beautiful glowing buttermilk-coloured moon out tonight

    It’s a brilliant white half-moon here, look to your left and there is a single bright star.

    _________________________________

    As you were, double away smartly.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 9:21 pm

  407. I love food, I love to eat.

    Unfortunately I love it all too much.

    I’ll be following IT down the rabbit hole as soon as I get my won’t-power built up.

    kae

    23 Jan 13 at 9:28 pm

  408. It’s the monsoon Carpe. They’re a little bit restless. Flighty even.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 9:29 pm

  409. CL

    For a lot more on the question of Britain and the EU, I recommend Richard North’s

    http://eureferendum.com/

    North literally wrote the book on the subject with Christopher Booker, and is plainly no EUrophile.

    In fact, I would say he is getting very acerbic in his blogging.

    But he knows the traps, and a straight immediate in/out referendum would be doomed to fail, in his opinion.

    Not that the political elites would necessarily follow his advice, given the enthusiasm they seem to show for being merely the local satraps in the Greater Europe.

    There is a path out, but it ain’t no cakewalk.

    Myrddin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 9:30 pm

  410. They’re a little bit restless. Flighty even.

    lol

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 9:31 pm

  411. How delicious if Crossin announced at a presser that she now identified as aboriginal.

    You know it’s so right, Trish. History and Monty Python demand that you reunite with your relatives in Yuedumu. 2013 is crying out for a signature Gillard government satire as we await Misogynist Queen Slippery’s by-election grenade.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 9:31 pm

  412. Some interesting trivia, Sapporo skifields are getting a metre of powdered global warming every night.

    One of the best ski seasons ever.

    Carpe Jugulum

    23 Jan 13 at 9:33 pm

  413. JC – see Carpe Jugulum at 6:16pm:

    Thanks Mick. Shoulda looked up thread. So my suspicions were correct. Just follow the money.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 9:34 pm

  414. In Melbourne, we have an advertising troll who voices his own radio ads. Guy’s an egomaniac who sets out to annoy people with a whiny, rasping, shouty voice. Shop’s called National Tiles.

    I seriously want to kill him. Not painlessly either.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 9:38 pm

  415. HIA being hilarious about sign language.

    Why are dey having dis person waving their hands around? Who’s listening? I’ve never spoken to a deaf person. Well, I did once, but dey didn’t hear me. Dey rely on lip-reading anyway.

    I am not sure that you are right about that, I demur.

    No, neither am I darlin’, he agrees and goes off to get a beer chaser for the dinner wine.

    I turn this ‘comedy’ show off; too boring. Reach for the Cat.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 9:45 pm

  416. Lizzie

    What sort of beer does your SIO ( Significant Irish Other ) have as a chaser ?

    Myrddin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 9:52 pm

  417. Fleeced can empathise.

    Try this… then again, probably better you don’t.

    Fleeced

    23 Jan 13 at 9:54 pm

  418. “Frank Walker has come a long way since Virginia …”

    It was Perger Pickles, ‘n Tom, ‘n Richo, ‘n a lady Marrickville Council alderman’s coupla black eyes ‘n Busybody Baldwin’s well deserved bent face. There was South Sydney mayor Bill Hartup (I played league with his son, or nephew – don’t remember which) missing branch membership records, burn downs, beating ups, blokes in balaclavas – the whole shooting match. Famous days, 30 odd years back.

    There was also, of course, Tom’s boat, ‘n Virginia, ‘n Richo, ‘n other blokes, ‘n photos.

    Frank was from the Left, I didn’t like him. He’s dead.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 9:54 pm

  419. what happened to sfb, SteveC, numbers, etc? Malleted? or just on summer break?

    dd

    23 Jan 13 at 9:55 pm

  420. Thanks, Fleeced. Hope you’re convalescing well, full steam ahead, so to speak :)

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 9:57 pm

  421. “Thanks Mick. … So my suspicions were correct. Just follow the money.”

    First port of call when you’re not sure about something iffy JC. You know that.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 9:58 pm

  422. Found I can focus on playing Civ for a few hours at a time, so I guess my mind is better… If only I could do something about this Civ addiction.

    Fleeced

    23 Jan 13 at 10:01 pm

  423. Speaking of animated gifs – another favourite… One that encapsulates this site’s attitude to the endlessly catastrophic Gillard years.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/CurrencyLad/eatingpopcornrc6.gif

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 10:01 pm

  424. Uhhh Mick

    That sounds like a LOT of history you are carrying there ( typing as a denizen of Sin City ).

    Any time you want to expand on this stuff – most interested.

    Here’s a name I spit out with venom for you – Neville Wran.

    Myrddin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 10:01 pm

  425. At least he didn’t get Needy to drown her in Moore park.

    Pickles

    23 Jan 13 at 10:04 pm

  426. Hey, Fleeced. Always good to see you.

    You should have some tips for Gab’s music hook enstuckening.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 10:05 pm

  427. If only I could do something about this Civ addiction.

    Cold turkey.

    Once you’ve got Civ in your bloodstream you need a serious detox. Or you’ll end up doing this.

    dd

    23 Jan 13 at 10:05 pm

  428. Fleeced

    Found I can focus on playing Civ for a few hours at a time, so I guess my mind is better…

    great news – very therapeutic and hopefully the family will be supportive.

    If only I could do something about this Civ addiction.

    Never – we are the only ones prepared since the day the poindexters started to teach Skynet to play Civ !!

    Myrddin Seren

    23 Jan 13 at 10:06 pm

  429. enstuckening

    What? ‘Unstuckening’ surely.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 10:07 pm

  430. You should have some tips for Gab’s music hook enstuckening.

    The worst case I had was the Kate Bush one I linked to earlier… I believe it was AC/DC wot finally blasted it out of my head – thanks kindly to your own advice.

    Fleeced

    23 Jan 13 at 10:10 pm

  431. If only I could do something about this Civ addiction.

    Just remember this dude:

    10-year-long video game creates ‘hellish nightmare’ world

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 10:10 pm

  432. When it comes to beer chasers, during Silly Irish Oaf moments, Myrddin, it’s whatever is to hand in the fridge. He’s having a Tassie phase at present, so it’s Cascade or Boags, but VB is the standby, with Coopers as the general preference. Guiness when homesick. His mate’s homebrew when desperate or beyond care. Kava on South Pacific Lager when in Fiji. Sake on Sapporo (‘a crude Northern beer’) but prefers Asahi or Kerin in Japan. Tsin-dhao in China.

    He is thinking that dese people on that site of yours Lizzie are good guys with proper interests.

    I just asked him what he drank in Turkey. He can’t remember (now tells me it is Efis – ‘a bit dull’), but has gone off to hunt for a postcard of a Muslim guy holding a beer with the strap line “my favourite beer”, so that I may enjoy the moment too.

    He’s back now and on the net checking up beers of the world as tonight’s project.

    Look at dis Lizze, dat’s a nice can, he enthuses about the Asahi design.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    23 Jan 13 at 10:14 pm

  433. Septimus I know not of what you speak

    Pickles … ’nuff said.

    Septimus

    23 Jan 13 at 10:15 pm

  434. I must say, as absurd as it looks, I’m looking forward to seeing this show.

    Fleeced

    23 Jan 13 at 10:15 pm

  435. Gab,

    Just remember this dude:

    snap, at 10.05.

    dd

    23 Jan 13 at 10:25 pm

  436. Ne-Yo’s R.E.D. (Deluxe Edition) is tonight’s opening music salvo.

    Septimus

    23 Jan 13 at 10:25 pm

  437. You’re too fast and flashy for me, DD.

    :)

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 10:29 pm

  438. “At least he didn’t get Needy to drown her in Moore park.”

    Heh, heh – we all knew the spot over in Centennial Park, across Lang Road from the Showground Pickles.

    Sally Anne felt the size 10s on her neck when she got too gobby about who she was going to tell about what she knew, and started to. That was some time after that dope Lanfranchi, her boyfriend/pimp, got what was coming to him.

    Neddy’s familiar places were Alexandria, a bit of Erko and Redfern – the Souths Juniors area, where the money got washed. Tom kept his distance in Marrickville, Enmore and through to Balmain. He was just as menacing, more disciplined and very, very good at what he did for a job.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 10:34 pm

  439. The western world is in terrific shape.

    As is well known round these parts, universities nowadays are no friends of free speech, honest inquiry and vigorous debate. So I was pleasantly surprised to hear that students at Ottawa’s Carleton University had installed a “free speech wall”. I was less surprised by what happened a few hours later:

    By Tuesday morning the wall was gone, destroyed in an act of “forceful resistance,” by seventh-year human rights student Arun Smith.

    Infidel Tiger

    23 Jan 13 at 10:40 pm

  440. The western world is in terrific shape.

    I was just thinking the same thing:

    The West has now reached the point where total private and public debt, together with unfunded government liabilities, can never be repaid by an ageing demographic. One day even debt servicing will be an issue. With fewer taxpayers and lenders, the ability to take from the future to provide for the present will end. This is when we see the final collapse of the great international governmental Ponzi scheme.

    Already in Europe, where lenders and taxpayers in the peripheral countries have either fled or are bankrupt, economies are surviving on the grace and favour of others. In America, we see the future with 11 states having more people on welfare than they have in work. The employee pension fund for the state of Illinois is $US95 billion in deficit and growing at $US17 million a day.

    And central banks that became the last resort for empty treasuries now find their own balance sheets stretched, their liabilities too short and their asset quality increasingly suspect. For all their intervention, other than to defer the evil day and encourage speculation in assets, quantitative easing has done nothing for economic activity. Indeed, the Fed has recently lowered its growth forecasts.

    What has differentiated Australia is that the Hawke-Keating and Howard-Costello governments largely eschewed the public policy excesses of the major economies. This changed in 2007 and Australia is now in the process of establishing its own Ponzi scheme.

    Tom

    23 Jan 13 at 10:49 pm

  441. I didn’t say the Courier Mail was referred to the police for being critical of the mother. I wrote:

    You first wrote:

    Roxon orders charges against newspaper for accurately and helpfully reporting story of woman’s criminal behaviour:

    Which makes it appear as if it was a political decision to charge the newspaper. Which really is very misleading since she didn’t order any charges (does she even have that power?), and she just referred on a referral from the head of the family court to the AFP for them to investigate.

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 10:51 pm

  442. In Melbourne, we have an advertising troll who voices his own radio ads

    So a protege’ of Gerry Harvey. Well it works so why not do it. I am sure if I become a retailer one day I will put out annoying ads, people remember.

    kelly liddle

    23 Jan 13 at 10:58 pm

  443. “Any time you want to expand on this stuff – most interested.

    Here’s a name I spit out with venom for you – Neville Wran.”

    I rated Nifty highly Myrddin Seren. He wasn’t from (my favoured) predominantly Irish Catholic Right but he set up a formidable executive with Charlie Ferguson (Mar’n's father) as deputy and departmental head Gerry Gleeson and he ran an effective show for a long time. Many of his ministers were very good at what they did and he was the right leader at the right time for NSW.

    My great disappointment was his not taking on the Griffith mafia (in hindsight he couldn’t have succeeded) and the manner in which those mongrel opportunists of Four Corners pursued him over minor matters.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 11:06 pm

  444. Which makes it appear as if it was a political decision to charge the newspaper.

    What I wrote:

    Um, the woman’s grandmother – described by the Family ‘Court’ judge as behaviourally “extremely inappropriate and bizarre” – was unlawfully at large with her great-grandchildren – this was a missing persons case, in other words. This wasn’t a court-room “challenge” to the court’s orders. The newspaper was justified in pursuing this separate story (pictures included) – involving, as it did, the apprehension of what was, in effect, a kidnapped family.

    The CM was not reporting matters pertaining to the Family Court case proper. They were reporting on an abduction. I don’t care what the paper’s stance was; they were entitled to report on it. And given the children were officially missing, they were entitled to run photographs and names as well.

    C.L.

    23 Jan 13 at 11:14 pm

  445. “Which makes it appear as if it was a political decision to charge the newspaper. Which really is very misleading …”

    Bullship Chris – walking, talking, deliberate bullship! You were at it hours ago and got belted to leg and now you’re trying it on again.

    You’re not a case of “Wake up ya nong!” – you’re a definite “Why don’t you pack up your Party running sheet Comrade and pith off! Labor doesn’t do late night penalty rates, or didn’t they let you know about that bit?”

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    23 Jan 13 at 11:16 pm

  446. Hey Tom…

    This is the fucking arsehole polluting our airwaves.

    Since 1979, National Tiles has been providing the guaranteed lowest priced quality tiles in Australia. We regularly visit the world’s best manufacturers to bring together the finest in quality and value that the ceramic tile and laminate timber flooring industries have to offer.

    We provide quality products at unbeatable prices.
    Latest colours and styles.
    Our ranges come with a ten year guarantee.
    A full range of accessories: adhesives, glues, grouts, tools, trims, knee pads, etc.
    Over $14,000,000 worth of stock ready for door to door delivery.

    We value our customers and welcome any questions you may have. We look forward to helping you bring your new home or renovation project to life.

    Frank Walker
    Managing Director.

    Here’s the ad.. every time I get into the car. The fucking prick has caused me to listen to ABC news. That’s how bad he is.

    Here’s the ad.

    If this prick isn’t national, as he asserts, we should report him to the ACCC for lying.

    I’ve had enough and so have you by the sounds of things.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 11:19 pm

  447. every time I get into the car. The fucking prick has caused me to listen to ABC news.

    HAHAHAHA! That’s exactly what I do!

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 11:21 pm

  448. Gab

    I’m not kidding, given the chance I would wring his neck.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 11:22 pm

  449. The CM was not reporting matters pertaining to the Family Court case proper. They were reporting on an abduction. I don’t care what the paper’s stance was; they were entitled to report on it. And given the children were officially missing, they were entitled to run photographs and names as well.

    Well the court will eventually decide that – that is what the AFP has been investigating. From what I’ve seen of reporting of other cases of parental abductions of their children (they do treat them different from other abductions) the family court has to give approval for their names/faces to be published before newspapers are allowed to do so. The parent wanting to retrieve the child is required to get a publication order:

    http://www.familylawcourts.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/FLC/Home/Children's+Matters/Recovery+orders/

    Chris

    23 Jan 13 at 11:24 pm

  450. Lol… you can even get Frank Walker from national tiles ring tones.

    Everyone hates the prick.

    JC

    23 Jan 13 at 11:25 pm

  451. might change that to my new moniker for a little while.

    JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    23 Jan 13 at 11:27 pm

  452. might change that to my new moniker for a little while.

    Jc

    23 Jan 13 at 11:27 pm

  453. JC, had a lovely long chat with his daughter on a plane trip from Perth. She was very pleasant company.

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 11:27 pm

  454. JC, had a lovely long chat with his daughter on a plane trip from Perth. She was very pleasant company.

    If you ever see her again Gab, tell her there’s a posse after her dad wand we want to wring his neck. Slowly.

    Jc

    23 Jan 13 at 11:29 pm

  455. lol

    Gab

    23 Jan 13 at 11:30 pm

  456. CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER is NOT convinced yet that the US is centre-left:

    I think your theory, and there are two, is that we get the government we deserve, that Obama reflects a change in sort of the political ideology of the country. As the country has become more dependent — more people receiving the benefits of government — that there is a lot more people who want to suck on the teat of the state, if I can say that on your show, give a little spice to it. And that’s one theory, it’s certainly true of Europe, and that is where we are headed. The question you are asking, I think, is are we there?

    I don’t think that the 2012 elections is a definitive test of your proposition. And the reason is Obama did not have a opponent who presented a coherent and strong argument for let’s say the Reaganite perspective of smaller government, less taxes, less dependency. You know, Romney was a good man but he basically ran on the economy, lousy economy, we need a new CEO in washington. It didn’t work. I think we will get a good test of this in 2016.

    We’re going to have the four years of Obama’s hyper-liberalism, the kind of stuff he elucidated and enunciated yesterday in the inaugural address. And I would say that if our ideology, conservative, small government ideology is correct, it will leave a mess behind.

    But we will also need as conservatives, Republicans if you like, a standard bearer in 2016 who can make the case. And there is not a dearth of them. We have a very strong bench. We’ve got Ryan, we’ve got Rubio, we’ve got the Governors, there is a whole young generation of conservatives who can make the case. That will be the test. Although, I will say that if liberals keep winning elections, then your theory of a fundamental change in the change of the electorate and the sense of dependency at which point it becomes a point of no return would be right. I’m just saying we don’t know and history will tell us rather soon.

    ###

    KRAUTHAMMER: You are saying why would they elect the guy who is the engineer of Obamacare? Because the alternative is the guy who did RomeyCare. [H]e never offered a strong conservative alternative. If you had run a Reagan, who I admit is exceptional in his charisma and be able to explain things. But Reagan would have won. Those were [the] conditions that Republicans lost the election, and they lost it because they couldn’t make the case. The case is there to be made. And they need a candidate who will make it. I think the country would respond.

    JamesK

    23 Jan 13 at 11:30 pm

  457. I’m not buying it anymore James. This election was pretty clear. You had an unrepentant socialist with socialist policies and an okay GOP candidate who actually was pretty conservative. The voters went for the socialist turkey. You need a crisis before we see another GOPer.

    2016 was actually 2012. It already happened. The only way for the GOP to win is to send in another big government conservative like Bush who will fuck it up even more for the small government right.

    Jc

    23 Jan 13 at 11:38 pm

  458. Tom kept his distance in Marrickville, Enmore and through to Balmain. He was just as menacing, more disciplined and very, very good at what he did for a job.

    Probably working for Danny Casey – Balmain Welding.

    Remember Peter Crawford and Graham Watson?

    Lazlo

    23 Jan 13 at 11:40 pm

  459. Jc

    23 Jan 13 at 11:50 pm

  460. Green technology takes another kick in the balls. There’s always something good that comes out of something bad.

    When Federal Aviation Administration officials grounded Boeing’s fleet of 787 Dreamliner commercial jets last week due to unexplained battery fires, one of President Obama’s favorite green energy technologies got another black eye.

    Technologists and safety experts had long warned of problems with the lithium ion battery when in 2009 the president began betting billions of tax dollars that it should be the green power of choice for cars, trucks, and even aircraft.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 12:00 am

  461. No, the US electorate voted for da equality. There are too many redistributionist zombies in that country now.

    Fisky

    24 Jan 13 at 12:13 am

  462. “… Danny Casey – Balmain Welding.

    Remember Peter Crawford and Graham Watson?”

    Danny was a powerful figure – he had an specially close friendship with Richo. Woodward J tried to get him and failed. There were all sorts of stories about Balmain Welding to which I would have to put my mind to recall – Wings(?) Trael, Father O’Dwyer and such.

    When mentioning Domican earlier I omitted to note that Neddy Smith didn’t spend a lot of time out of the slammer in the ’70s and spent most of the ’80s fighting off a proposed return trip. In any event he and Tom dealt in unconnected businesses.

    You’ve shortened me up for the moment with Crawford and Watson??? Perhaps I should apply a fresh mind tomorrow.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    24 Jan 13 at 12:17 am

  463. The Blind, The Blind, The Blind, The Blind, The Blind Factory… :-P

    Steve D

    24 Jan 13 at 12:24 am

  464. “I’m not buying it anymore James. This election was pretty clear. … 2016 was actually 2012.”

    I tend more to your view JC than to Krauthammer’s, as much as I respect his prescience.

    The GOP will not be able to determine a winning strategy in the available time, and stick to it as one; Teh Wun’s handlers installed the worker bees and queen bees in all the vital bureaucratic hives during the past four years; and the whole joint is about to get wholly distracted by basic financial survival as the poor economic trends creep more south.

    Hilary is not a chance in 2016 but another Democrat journeyman with a nice smile will emerge to continue their excellent demolition job.

    Who knows, they may source someone from Chato’s Land so they can weep tears of delight that they’ve put another stupid historical guilt complex right.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    24 Jan 13 at 12:32 am

  465. I was of your view JC which is why the election was devastatingly bad.

    In fact I was depressed before the election as it became clear it would be close even though I thought Romney would still win.

    But Krauthammer is right: Romney ran on the economy rather than against an immoral ideology.

    JamesK

    24 Jan 13 at 12:36 am

  466. Perhaps James. Canada was blue for years and then went Red, or at least their version.

    However I’m pessimistic about the chances of the US turning around so quickly though.

    Look, the good side of things is that 10 million less people voted for the socialist Kenyan. But 2 million less voted for Romney than they did for McCain although McCain was also pretty useless.

    But I can’t see the marginal states except perhaps Flordia going for a GOPer.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 12:48 am

  467. So whose face are you displaying today, Gab? Cheeky and vivacious but before my time…

    Cold-Hands

    24 Jan 13 at 1:00 am

  468. However I’m pessimistic about the chances of the US turning around so quickly though.

    They need to hit rock bottom first.

    kelly liddle

    24 Jan 13 at 1:05 am

  469. Cheeky and vivacious Yes, you could certainly call her that. Spot on, Cold-hands!

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 1:15 am

  470. Bettina Arndt thinks that university-’educated’ women are now victims because there aren’t enough university-’educated’ men available on the dating market. She also condemns “promiscuous” young single men taking advantage of online dating and desperate women. That’s behaving “badly.” But young women aren’t promiscuous or behaving badly. Oh no. That’s different. That’s “fun.”

    The dating crisis for successful women in their 30s is real, a consequence of delaying the decision to settle down after devoting their 20s to education, establishing their careers and having fun. After a decade of dating, these high-flying women find themselves trying to attract a shrinking pool of men, many of whom fish outside their own pond, choosing younger and sometimes less-educated women.

    Now meet Jacob – promiscuous and bad, according to Arndt:

    Slater’s story features Jacob, a feckless, 30-something philanderer who finds himself in clover, with pretty, ambitious women lining up online to meet him. Jacob is currently juggling both a paralegal and a lawyer from the same firm, a naturopath, a pharmacist and a chef – having recently ended a two-year-old relationship with a 22-year-old.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:15 am

  471. There ought to be laws against against men like Jacob. The Men Behaving Badly Act.

    I wouldn’t put it past the Lying Slapper, Von Roxon and the very stupid Plibersek. Not for a minute.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 1:20 am

  472. “Remember Peter Crawford and Graham Watson?”

    Crawford’s name was vaguely familiar and now the penny has dropped, Lazlo. They were both of the Left and of little import to me.

    Crawford was a local alderman who got done by Dawn Fraser running as an Independent in the ’88 State election, supported by the ABC and film industry luvvies living in Birchgrove who at that time needed a puppet to run interference on the plans of evil oil companies to have redundant terminals rezoned for housing (including my evil oil company).

    I had to endure “negotiating” with truly dopey Dawn and got to enjoy the circus that was Leichhardt Council (mad Jean, Issy and the inscrutable Nick Origlass). Now there was a 10 year project which went bloody nowhere for no good reason, through the sheer bastardry of the council, the State and its planning public servants. The loony bin up at Callan Park also got caught up in that rezoning war, and Wooloomooloo Finger Wharf where NZ’s Russell Rabbitoh now lives sometimes.

    I remember Thompson profited from a favourable sentence by a friendly judge (good behaviour for car pinching) and got to stay on Marrickville Council – not a lot has changed! Both Leichhardt and Marrickville swung violently left in the mid-late ’80s, much to the displeasure of Richo’s Sussex Street.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    24 Jan 13 at 1:22 am

  473. Arndt really is cluelessly behind the times. Living back in the 70s when going to university was, like, the holy of holies. There are fewer men going to university now but there are FIFO-loads with trades and apprenticeships – and plenty of money. But to Bettina’s generation, no grease monkeys need apply.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:24 am

  474. “There ought to be laws against against men like Jacob. The Men Behaving Badly Act.

    I wouldn’t put it past the Lying Slapper, Von Roxon and the very stupid Plibersek. Not for a minute.”

    Give ‘em time, give ‘em time – they’ve been preoccupied recently getting the Invasion Day announcements sorted for Comrade Our Nova, and for the Young Darkish Australian of the Year, Jessica Mauboy (also from Darwin, targeting the same vote).

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    24 Jan 13 at 1:31 am

  475. That’s the way ya do it:

    AP: Bloomberg soda ban RACIST.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:33 am

  476. Yes, you could certainly call her that.
    I didn’t recognise her without her trademark fruity headdress.

    Cold-Hands

    24 Jan 13 at 1:42 am

  477. “AP: Bloomberg soda ban RACIST.”

    … for the reason that a certain type of American is over-represented in not just one statistical measure (jailed-ness) but two statistical measures – fatness!

    Of course the gummint has now taken responsibility to the extent that it could be sued for not exercising its undoubted, undeniable duty of care to prevent fatness. … amongst society’s most vulnerable.

    This of course collides with the fundamental human right (™Jemimah Khan) to “freedom of choice in low-income communities.”

    This is Premium Grade, thigh slapping amusing!

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    24 Jan 13 at 1:47 am

  478. That went well — and it’s got another week to run, culminating in a vote by the ALP national executive (which she fomented) on Gillard’s leadership:

    “I’m going to encourage as many branch members in the Territory who would want to nominate for this seat to do so as we did back in December when we opened nominations,” Senator Crossin said.

    Earlier, vocal Left Senator Doug Cameron attacked the decision, accusing Ms Gillard of a “pretty brutal exercise of political power . . . I think simply a night of the long knives against a senator who has given the party a long-term commitment, a very effective commitment, is not a good message,” Senator Cameron told ABC radio.

    If the party wanted an Aboriginal member of parliament it should have selected one democratically rather than “parachuting people in and saying that soothes our conscience in terms of Aboriginal representation . . . It’s a short-term fix that belies a deeper problem”.

    Former Labor deputy leader of the Northern Territory, Syd Stirling, said Ms Gillard’s move showed “breathtaking arrogance”.

    Branch president of the ALP in Alice Springs, Rowan Foley, said he was “gutted” by the move. Mr Foley, an indigenous candidate for Labor at the Territory election last August, said the Prime Minister’s intervention was a “setback” for Labor in the Territory.

    He said there were indigenous candidates in other states and questioned why a safe House of Representatives seat could not be found for NSW deputy opposition leader Linda Burney.

    Aboriginal sovereignty campaigner Michael Anderson condemned the choice of Ms Peris, saying she had not been involved in major political processes. “I do not have confidence in her ability to stand up for and fight the hard fight that is coming our way,” the founder of the tent embassy in Canberra said.

    Pickering thinks there’s a definite chance Gillard will be rolled.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 4:30 am

  479. It’s all theatre, Tom. When the national executive goes to raise their hands, the will all vote to avoid a disaster for TLS. So the next ALP senator for the NT will be Nova Peris Kneebone, the next Cheryl Kernot of Australian politics.

    Entropy

    24 Jan 13 at 7:51 am

  480. Speaking of lying slappers:

    Whether it’s because of a protest or whether a village person out for a walk decided to go kill some Americans, what difference at this point does it make?

    Absolutely fucking disgraceful. These slimy idiots have not a skerrick of shame and as a result, unfortunately, there is zero chance of them dying of it.

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 8:44 am

  481. Looks like the cops are closing in on Gillard.
    Mark Baker (Age editor) posts a helpful update.

    Mr Blewitt returned to Melbourne from his home in Malaysia this week with further documents relating to what he describes as ”a major fraud” involving hundreds of thousands of dollars taken from the AWU Workplace Reform Association – some of it used to buy the Fitzroy house.

    Keith

    24 Jan 13 at 8:53 am

  482. More on the financials of Peris Enterprises Pty Ltd

    2007 was boomin for business.

    I don’t get how a treaty ambassador is suddenly qualified to be giving out medical advice.

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 9:31 am

  483. I’d sell my soul for this kinda cash for six months work

    Contract Period 26-Apr-2007 to 19-Oct-2007
    Contract Value (AUD) $708,011.70

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 9:35 am

  484. She came to do good. And did very well indeed.

    Pickles

    24 Jan 13 at 9:38 am

  485. This is the story in the AFR today:

    Satire, commentary and historical generalisations such as accusing the Ottoman Empire of genocide could become illegal under the federal government’s plan to toughen anti-discrimination laws, according to media companies and lawyers.

    But this is the real but otherwise unexplained story (behind the paywall):

    Fairfax, which owns the AFR, faced the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal after Italian-Australians were offended by the cartoon (portraying Italy as “Berlusconia”)”.

    Who are these Eurofascists in our midst?

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 9:42 am

  486. Earlier, vocal Left Senator Doug Cameron attacked the decision, accusing Ms Gillard of a “pretty brutal exercise of political power . . . I think simply a night of the long knives against a senator who has given the party a long-term commitment, a very effective commitment, is not a good message,” Senator Cameron told ABC radio.

    The stupid slapper has absolutely no ethics, delicacy nor does she even learn from previous problems she caused.

    Has the fucking idiot stopped to think that knifing this senator in the back will remind people of the way she knifed Rudd?

    She really is human garbage.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 9:48 am

  487. ….faced the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal after Italian-Australians were offended by the cartoon (portraying Italy as “Berlusconia”)”.

    Are you kidding me? People were offended by the bunga bunga parties? How precious can you possibly get?

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 9:51 am

  488. Peris says Bolt racist.

    I suppose it’s lucky he’s not being accused of misogyny.

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 9:54 am

  489. Bolt racist, Peris says. Linky.

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 9:56 am

  490. Wow. But a dog would do that too I think. Ours would.

    Jc, thanks for that link. Dolphins are pretty amazing animals. There are active pods in Port Stephens and Jervis Bay in NSW. We have heard their clicking sounds very clearly while diving in both locations but have not been lucky enough to have an underwater encounter with them.

    Septimus

    24 Jan 13 at 9:57 am

  491. Earlier, vocal Left Senator Doug Cameron attacked the decision,

    Dougie is probably feeling a bit of an itch between the shoulder blades. He supported Rudd too.
    Basically every liarsparty member is now on notice. The “Captain’s” caprice could fall on any of them, for whatever reason. The dictator emerges. If a sitting Senator can be removed, then it could happen to anyone, simply on Gillard’s sayso.

    Keith

    24 Jan 13 at 10:23 am

  492. If a sitting Senator can be removed, then it could happen to anyone, simply on Gillard’s sayso.

    And everyone in the party has another five days to think about that before the national executive votes. Forecasts that an electorally poisonous fuckup of a leader who’s as thick as a brick will get unanimous support are premature. Popcorn.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 10:34 am

  493. I suppose behavioural patterns similar to Stalin’s modus operandi are OK for the TLS.

    Mike

    Mike of Marion

    24 Jan 13 at 10:50 am

  494. The National Exec have a clear choice. Either chuck the poo pie she has dished up straight back at her, or say pass the sauce.

    Pickles

    24 Jan 13 at 10:51 am

  495. Who are these Eurofascists in our midst?

    They could simply be colourful mischief makers, Tom.

    God knows, I find fauxfacts pretty fucking offensive…

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 10:56 am

  496. In an entirely unexpected turn of events Fauxfacts can’t let Australia Day pass without donning the black armband and engaging in some hand wringing. Let’s leave the last word to John Pilger,

    ”No country since apartheid South Africa has been more condemned by the UN for its racism than Australia.”

    That was a surprise.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 10:58 am

  497. You don’t end up on the Labor National Executive unless you do as you are told, usually by Big Bill Ludwig.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 11:05 am

  498. I sincerely hope that Tony Abbott and TLS are not in the same city this coming Saturday. Better still AbbottAbbottAbbott should release a Press Statement that he will be in Perth and then never leave home on Saturday!!

    Mike of Marion

    24 Jan 13 at 11:06 am

  499. Electoral Commissioner, Ed Killesteyn said enrolling to vote was an important part of participating in a healthy democracy and it was a continuing concern that at the start of this election year over 1.5 million eligible electors are currently not enrolled.

    What’s the bet the vast majority of these mysterious “1.5 million eligible electors” are seen as potential labore voters?

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 11:11 am

  500. 500th!!!

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 11:12 am

  501. Actually, if you have an aversion to Gillard there is no safer place to be than Perth. She only comes to WA when Stephen Smith lines up some US or UK get together here to try and reduce the swing against him this year.

    The Perth electorate will be a marginal seat after 2013 and up for grabs if one half of the Glimmer Twins decides he doesn’t like life on the other side of the House.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 11:14 am

  502. Chris Murphy rallies the troops for TLS

    Lazlo

    24 Jan 13 at 11:16 am

  503. What’s the bet the vast majority of these mysterious “1.5 million eligible electors” are seen as potential labore voters?

    You want odds? You not going going to get any. It’s a one horse race.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 11:17 am

  504. commentary and historical generalisations such as accusing the Ottoman Empire of genocide could become illegal under the federal government’s plan to toughen anti-discrimination laws

    Historical generalisations ?!

    Do a search for

    Armenian Genocide
    Assyrian Genocide
    Pontian Greek Genocide

    The Christian population of Turkey was reduced from millions pre-1890 to a few tens of thousands today – both by the Sultanate and the Young Turk officers after they took over. And it wasn’t done in the spirit of gentle persuasion of the merits of the RoP !

    That ain’t no ‘generalisation’.

    What these proposed laws are though are entirely consistent with the views of a very large faith group who are insulted when non-believers say anything about their creed, history and social structure.

    eg Look atr global pressure for blasphemy laws by the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

    I am starting to wonder whether the ‘tough new hurt feelings’ laws are yet another price to be paid to get Australia over the line for that damned Security Council seat ?

    Myrrdin Seren

    24 Jan 13 at 11:21 am

  505. There are many things, dammit, that I do not understand.

    That’s putting mildly, oh barking one…

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 11:23 am

  506. DRUDGE: Department of Homeland Security orders that Americans stretch before shovelling snow.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 11:37 am

  507. Peak Oil!

    Brisbane company Linc Energy says it has discovered a shale oil reserve of up to 233 billion barrels in the Arckaringa Basin in South Australia’s far north.

    The company says independent consultants have confirmed the finding, after drilling and seismic explorations in the area around Coober Pedy.

    Linc Energy holds rights over more than 65,000 square kilometres in the area.

    South Australian Energy Mining Minister Tom Koutsantonis says the value of the finding could be worth $20 trillion and could turn Australia into an oil exporter.

    Major oil discovery in outback SA.

    Now let’s see if Gillard and Swan can fuck this up.

    I’m guessing yes.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 11:39 am

  508. Unicorns and fairies everywhere:

    Mr Combet repeated he was confident of the Treasury modelling, which predicts a $29 a tonne carbon price in 2015/16.

    He was asked if the government would face a budget shortfall, in contrast to the $9.4 billion of revenue it had predicted the floating price would generate in the 2015/16 budget.

    “It is three years away and the Treasury modelling is something that we stand by,” Mr Combet said.

    Reality:

    Yesterday’s closing price was 5.02, today it is 4.64 ($5.86). That’s a value loss of 8% in a single day. So far, for the month of January, EUcarbon has lost almost 40% of its value, from just below $7 a ton at the end of December.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 11:44 am

  509. So at $5.86 our 23 bucks per ton means we’re 4 times over the international pwice. Nice.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 11:46 am

  510. Combat ready…

    So Hillary blubbed under questioning.

    Can you imagine Thatcher crying like that?

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 11:51 am

  511. I give up on this Peris financial thing. Looks like her consultancy firm made a cool million in and around 2007 and then nothing. She does a lot on the speakers circuit, waiting for people to get back to me about fee’s.

    So, while she isn’t running a charity, it would be more apt to describe what she is doing as philanthropy. With taxpayers money. Sounds like a sweet gig.

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 11:54 am

  512. Mr Combet repeated he was confident of the Treasury modelling,…

    Combet and Swan, the last of the True Believers.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 11:57 am

  513. On the subject of the ETS, the EU Greenfilth are hysterical about this:

    Airlines profited up to €1.36 billion last year by passing “imaginary” costs from the EU’s Emissions Trading System (ETS) onto consumers, says a study by a Dutch environmental consultancy published today (22 January).

    EU airlines stood to gain the most from the carbon trading scheme – some €758 million or almost twice their estimated returns of €400 million in 2011 – says the CE Delft study.

    Under the ETS, the EU’s market-based measure to curb greenhouse gas emissions, airlines are given a certain number of free carbon allowances. The rest they have to purchase on a ‘carbon market’.

    The free allowances covered some 85% of the sector’s emissions in 2010. The remaining 15%, plus any allowances to cover any emissions increases since 2010, needed to be purchased, with airlines recovering their costs through higher air fares in 2012, according to the environmental campaign group Transport & Environment, which commissioned the study.

    Aoife O’Leary, an aviation advisor at T&E, told EurActiv that airlines were passing on the “imaginary costs” of the free ETS allowances onto customers, generating huge profits.

    You’re allowed to work the CO2 racket only if you are a Greenfilth-approved crony.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 11:58 am

  514. You really have to read this to believe it.

    The SMH’s Alecia Simmonds calls for Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt and, indeed, anyone who disagrees with the left to be jailed.

    Do jerks deserve free speech?

    Hilarious snippet – but do RTWT:

    So how do we make sense of this seeming opposition between equality and free speech, especially given that we pinko lefty types tend to cherish both and have historically stood up for both. Perhaps it’s best to start with the fact that freedom of speech is not an unqualified right or an unqualified good. Your ‘freedom to’ say what you want can’t come at the expense of other people’s ‘freedom from’ fear, violence or hatred which may be incited by what you say. The left hasn’t given up on freedom. We just want to stretch it to include the most vulnerable members of our community.

    And here she seems to imply that Julia Gillard should be arrested – after all, Gillard is responsible for the worst violence organised by a prime minister’s office in Australian history:

    Studies have consistently shown that hate speech is not just words, but that it usually precedes an attack. Sociologists Rowan Savage and Gordon Allport describe it as part of a continuum of violence where racial vilification can slide easily into violence or genocide. Hate speech makes violence possible and is also itself a form of violence.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 12:01 pm

  515. Various news services are headlining Hilary’s appearance at the senate inquiry as “Hilary Fights Back” when in fact her outburst – the one I heard on the ABC this morning, was avoiding the question why they didn’t say it was terrorism in the first place.

    blogstrop

    24 Jan 13 at 12:02 pm

  516. That’s an oldie, ‘strop.

    Whenever a left-wing politician is being grilled and destroyed, the headline invariably says it’s a “fight-back.”

    Her comment about it not making any difference how those people died in Libya is utterly shocking.

    I have always been astonished that even intelligent people rate this coat-tail riding imbecile seriously.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 12:05 pm

  517. I wonder if Tillman is okay this morning? AAPL have had a rotten quarter (for Apple anyway).

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 12:07 pm

  518. CL, that’s the same pubescent airhead who last week revealed the qualifications she used to get a job at ShakeMyHead.com:

    In the late ’90s, when raving meant dancing and sun-dried tomatoes meant culinary sophistication, I joined a group at university called the Activist Left. It was the obvious choice for someone who had spent her high school years weeping over woodchips. I believed another world was possible but had no faith in parliamentary reform. Revolutionary overthrow sounded infinitely more exciting than gradual change.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 12:09 pm

  519. I’m guessing she didn’t study engineering at uni.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 12:11 pm

  520. I wonder if Tillman is okay this morning? AAPL have had a rotten quarter (for Apple anyway).

    It’s over for them with the iphone. Ever single firm now has to, has to make a smart device which means that stuff will be just selling at the marginal cost plus a couple of dollars either way.

    The move down has been vicious.

    The business was worth $600 billion before their $110 billion cash hoard and now it’s worth about $350 billion.

    After the 52 buck drop in the after market that’s what the valuation is for Apple after taking out the cash.

    The cash is worth around 110 bucks a share which has a multiple of 1:1 in my opinion.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 12:25 pm

  521. Is peak oil the stupidest theory ever:

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/trillion-shale-oil-find-surrounding-coober-pedy-can-fuel-australia/story-fndo471r-1226560401043

    Why the fuck are screwing around with windmills and solar?

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 12:40 pm

  522. Why the fuck are we screwing around with windmills and solar?

    It’s a fraud. the entire thing is a fraud.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 12:41 pm

  523. Al Gore and polar bears.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 12:52 pm

  524. We’ve got oil, gas, coal and uranium to power the continent for thousands of years. And in this situation – one of stupendous luck and privilege – the Labor Party has managed to make electricity a luxury, price-wise.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:00 pm

  525. “It’s over for them with the iphone”

    It’s worse than that. My computer geek 14 year old is very down on macs. Which I thought an aberation until I read a story about how Apple stopped being cool.

    Pedro

    24 Jan 13 at 1:02 pm

  526. It’s worse than that. My computer geek 14 year old is very down on macs. Which I thought an aberation until I read a story about how Apple stopped being cool.

    I have a 13 y/o version who did not want, under any circumstances, an ipad for Christmas.
    I think that Apple are now paying the price for their own success. It is simply, “If my parents own it, it can not be cool” syndrome.
    Too many parents now have apple products.

    Huckleberry Chunkwot

    24 Jan 13 at 1:10 pm

  527. Major oil discovery in outback SA.

    Excellent news. Hopefully South Australia can regain some sort of footing as an exporter and private sector job creator. And all without the Multi Function Polis.

    m0nty

    24 Jan 13 at 1:14 pm

  528. The shale oil story needs more airtime. Currently, in Oz, shale oil is merely a story about raising farmers’ hackles and worries about shaking the ground (thank you, Alan Jones). The big pic in the USA and elsewhere, and the enormous reserves world-wide, many of them in unwanted deserts (the Gobi, Upper South Oz), should be big time real time Daily Planet fare.

    Instead, your ABC produces yesterday a prime time filler story about tourism saving wildlife. That was old news twenty years ago.

    Get that shale oil story out and proud.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:14 pm

  529. just a reality check. The CEO is Peter Bond. any relation?

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 1:17 pm

  530. Crikey! Bindi Irwin is in some sort of stoush with Hillary.

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 1:18 pm

  531. Agreed, Lizzie.

    m0nty

    24 Jan 13 at 1:20 pm

  532. Sad to see Bindi’s young head has been filled with Ehlichian nonsense.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:23 pm

  533. It’s worse than that. My computer geek 14 year old is very down on macs. Which I thought an aberation until I read a story about how Apple stopped being cool.

    Funnily enough I bought an iPhone5 this week because the wanker set and the kiddies have abandoned them.

    Almost went the Galaxy but everyone else I know who has one has smashed the screen in the first month.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 1:30 pm

  534. Moe on the subject of the Iphone. Don’t they have a lock on the apps and then there’s Itunes of course.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 1:33 pm

  535. More on the subject of the Iphone. Don’t they have a lock on the apps and then there’s Itunes of course.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 1:33 pm

  536. Bindi Irwin eh?

    I preferred it when kids only spoke when spoken to. Uppity little brat.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 1:35 pm

  537. SOUTH Australia is sitting on oil potentially worth more than $20 trillion

    We don’t need it.

    Thanks to Lance’s mate Ranny, we have ample wind power.

    Eddystone

    24 Jan 13 at 1:37 pm

  538. SOUTH Australia is sitting on oil potentially worth more than $20 trillion

    My prediction is that rather than exploit this resource they’ll instead focus on getting everyone employed in eco tourism… which in South Australia means a bus that visits murder sites and is carbon offset.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 1:43 pm

  539. Apple’s products are inexcusably overpriced and iTunes just absolutely sucks arse. It is a disgrace.

    P.S. Just saw some iPad minis and they are a rip off as well.

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 1:45 pm

  540. SOUTH Australia is sitting on oil potentially worth more than $20 trillion

    We don’t need it.

    Weatherdill’s sole talking point on the subject for as long as he can get away with it.

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 1:49 pm

  541. Cote de Bogan latest:

    Australian men arrested over Phuket shooting.

    Real class demographic getting to that place.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:52 pm

  542. I got an iMac three years ago.

    It’s ok, but unfortunately wont run the programs I actually wanted it for. (I’m illiterate when it comes to computers.)

    I’ve noticed that things start to die after about three years, so far it’s been the Airport wireless thingy, the mouse and now the keyboard.

    Now the computer itself is starting to do strange things, so far quite minor, but it’s time to start looking for a PC.

    Eddystone

    24 Jan 13 at 1:52 pm

  543. Yes, South Australia is phuqued, I don’t hold out much hope for the next lot of dills that will take Labor’s place.

    I’d love to see SA become a beacon of low tax, low regulation, competitive Federalism, but unfortunately the luvvies are locked on to the taxpayers jugular.

    And a majority of the electorate think that’s ok.

    Eddystone

    24 Jan 13 at 1:58 pm

  544. Police catch up with man guilty of two brutal rapes:

    Case 1:

    On the morning of September 15, 1988, Morris broke into the Ultimo home of a woman, who was asleep after working night shift, Judge Berman said.

    “She was woken up by noise from downstairs. The offender went into her bedroom without a word,” he said.

    “The offender walked to her and punched her in the face, splitting her lower lip.

    “Not surprisingly, she was petrified and did not move.”

    Case 2:

    Less than two years later, on February 17, 1990, Morris knocked on the door of a house in Artarmon asking to see someone. The teenage girl who opened the door told him she did not know of anyone by that name.

    He then returned to the house, knocked on the door and pushed the girl to the ground.

    “He grabbed her and walked her towards the lounge room saying ‘I’ve got a knife’.

    “He pointed something metallic into her side.”

    In a victim impact statement read to the court on the 1990 victim’s behalf, she said the effects had been lifelong.

    Jeffrey Allan Morris will be eligible for parole in January 2017.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 1:59 pm

  545. Thanks to Lance’s mate Ranny, we have ample wind power.

    That’s right. The SA government is going to allow Lance Armstrong and 1000 fellow cycling drug cheats picked at random from the cycling community to work off their life bans providing the pedal power for a massive wind energy plant that doesn’t need wind, which is going to save the planet, with additional revenue from the rights to a reality TV show, Prairie Pedal Penintentiary, providing SA with a token replacement for its oil, gas and coal industry when the Gillard Marxist Liberation Front government bans all mining and buys a second term with FreeStuff™.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 1:59 pm

  546. 1000 fellow cycling drug cheats picked at random from the cycling community

    Fair go.

    That’d destroy the Glenelg and Burnside economies.

    Eddystone

    24 Jan 13 at 2:02 pm

  547. Ed, I thought cycling was banned in SA’s idea of Toorak (Burnside) as a symptom of commoner tendencies.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 2:09 pm

  548. Tom, maybe they just take their bikes to the coffee shops.

    Eddystone

    24 Jan 13 at 2:12 pm

  549. Police catch up with man guilty of two brutal rapes

    Did they ever catch up with this guy?

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 2:12 pm

  550. At times the Interwebs is just awesome in the close proximity of actual, demonstrable idiocy to help underline an assertion.

    As – ahem – I said above:

    What these proposed laws are though are entirely consistent with the views of a very large faith group who are insulted when non-believers say anything about their creed, history and social structure.

    Said large faith group illustrating the point:

    Lego has been accused of racism by the Turkish community over a Star Wars toy allegedly depicting a mosque.

    The critics claim that the Jabba’s Palace model, part of Lego’s Star Wars range, offends Muslims as it resembles the Hagia Sophia mosque in Istanbul – one of the world’s most renowned mosques.

    Members of the Turkish Cultural Community of Austria group also accused the toy manufacturer of depicting Asians as having ‘deceitful and criminal personalities’.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267062/Lego-accused-racism-Turkish-community-say-toy-offensive-based-mosque.html#ixzz2IrKjn7s6

    On this basis, Lego executives in Australia can expect to be arrested and face lengthy terms of imprisonment for ‘feelings hurty’ hate crimes.

    Myrrdin Seren

    24 Jan 13 at 2:17 pm

  551. So true:

    HE’S LINCOLN! HE’S REAGAN! Have You Noticed Liberals Always Compare Obama To Republican Presidents? “It’s funny how you never hear Democrats squeal with delight saying, Finally! Our generation’s Jimmy Carter! At Last! A Woodrow Wilson of our very own! There’s a reason for that.”

    Link.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 2:19 pm

  552. Hagia Sophia was originally an early Christian church and has just had minarets added. In its significance it is an international icon. Christians could be just as offended at the minarets if they were so inclined, which thankfully they are not. Why is it always walking on eggshells with Muslims?

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    24 Jan 13 at 2:40 pm

  553. Finally! Our generation’s Jimmy Carter!

    LOL

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    24 Jan 13 at 2:41 pm

  554. Why is it always walking on eggshells with Muslims?

    Because they’re arrogant, stupid violent deadshits and have been since the seventh century.

    End of story.

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 2:55 pm

  555. This is actually in The Australian. The unreality and the brown-nosing are epic:

    IT was vintage Hillary Clinton. For those who may have thought that prolonged illness might have taken a toll, the feisty secretary of state proved once again why she’s a force to be reckoned with.

    She may have disappeared off the radar for several weeks – felled by flu and later a blood clot caused after she fainted and suffered a concussion – but Clinton showed on Wednesday that she’s back, and in fighting form.

    For several hours, the 65-year-old Clinton gave a consummate performance displaying political skills honed over decades first working as a lawyer and then in public life as a first lady and US senator from New York…

    “Watching Hillary Clinton eye Marco Rubio as he begins questioning calls to mind the way a tiger eyes a gazelle,” tweeted one eager Twitter user.

    With a nod to her possible White House bid, Republican congressman Steven Cahot wryly told her at a later House hearing, “I wish you well in your future endeavours – mostly,” eliciting one of Clinton’s famous laughs.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 3:07 pm

  556. That fall in Apple shares is interesting. The most profitable year of any company ever, the quarterly earnings the fourth largest eva, quarterly earnings only ever beaten three times in history by Exxon, and a gross margin of over 38% and all lines growing strongly expect macs, only because they came out with new ones during the quarter and couldn’t actually deliver them. I would imagine that most tech companies would kill for that sort of year.
    And yet, APPL has a PE around 9.
    Compared with GOOG at 18 and AMZN at -9000.
    The fall in apple share price is the same as the value of two RIMs, and two Nokias, combined.

    Entropy

    24 Jan 13 at 3:19 pm

  557. I’d be shit scared about ivesting in tech firms. People are so fickle. One day you’re Blackberry! and the next day you’re… uh, Blackberry.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 3:31 pm

  558. Ent

    Snapple stock is why I sometimes have doubts on the Efficient market theory.

    Follow me on this one.

    Snapple makes the Iphone which is a major break through and they earn billions. Every other firm or geek with a top IQ is trying to better them. In other words every capable fucker in the world is trying to beat them at their own game.

    So why then would Snapple stock trade at lofty multiples when they will eventually get pecked to death by other players.

    In fact it deserves a low multiple.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 3:37 pm

  559. IT was vintage Hillary Clinton.

    I don’t understand. Why is the Australian accusing IT of impersonating Hillary? Weirdos.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 3:41 pm

  560. I also think there is a very strong element of animal spirits at the moment too though, JC.

    But in the end, a stock price is worth what the market thinks it is worth. But I think that particular company is held to quite a different standard than say, Amazon, which trades at huge PE but doesn’t make a profit.

    Entropy

    24 Jan 13 at 3:46 pm

  561. John H.

    24 Jan 13 at 3:47 pm

  562. The shale oil story needs more airtime. Currently, in Oz, shale oil is merely a story about raising farmers’ hackles and worries about shaking the ground (thank you, Alan Jones).

    Alan Jones’ big sponsor at the moment:

    http://www.manildra.com.au/

    Established in 1952 with the purchase of a single flour mill, the Manildra Group of companies has since undergone steady growth. The company is now the largest user of wheat for industrial purposes in Australia processing some 1 million tonnes of wheat per annum.

    Over the last 50 years Manildra has vertically integrated and as a result diversified the product range to include flour, pre-mixes and products derived from flour such as modified starches, glucose syrups, maltodextrine, gluten, specialty protein products and ethanol.

    Click here to view Manildra Group’s latest television commercials Ethanol one and Ethanol two, focusing on the benefits of ethanol.

    I think the frackers have more credibility.

    .

    24 Jan 13 at 3:54 pm

  563. Isn’t Monty the most qualified in commenting about the pitfalls of a tech company?

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 3:55 pm

  564. Established in 1952 with the purchase of a single flour mill, the Manildra Group of companies has since undergone steady growth. The company is now the largest user of wheat for industrial purposes in Australia processing some 1 million tonnes of wheat per annum.

    Over the last 50 years Manildra has vertically integrated and as a result diversified the product range to include flour, pre-mixes and products derived from flour such as modified starches, glucose syrups, maltodextrine, gluten, specialty protein products and ethanol.

    Click here to view Manildra Group’s latest television commercials Ethanol one and Ethanol two, focusing on the benefits of ethanol.

    In other words they are dealers in death. Wheat and its by products kills far more people each year than oil ever will.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 3:56 pm

  565. But in the end, a stock price is worth what the market thinks it is worth. But I think that particular company is held to quite a different standard than say, Amazon, which trades at huge PE but doesn’t make a profit.

    That also applies to amazon too.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 3:56 pm

  566. Isn’t Monty the most qualified in commenting about the pitfalls of a tech company?

    You think he’s learnt anything by it though. I don’t. Big idiot he is.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 3:58 pm

  567. McTernan daily stunt watch:

    Gillard visits top-secret Defence spy centre.

    I suspect the director was not impressed:

    In welcoming the Prime Minister, the DSD’s acting director, Mike Burgess, said the organisation’s work was necessarily conducted in secret.

    “That helps us protect our capabilities, that helps us generate intelligence that meets national intelligence needs,” he said.

    “It also helps us protect our men and women deployed in Afghanistan at the moment and elsewhere on military operations.

    “And as you know, it also helps us protect Australia against the cyber threat.”

    Mr Burgess then quipped: “In that regard of our work being necessarily conducted in secret, I should also acknowledge and welcome the media to Defence Signals Directorate.”

    Ms Gillard quickly responded: “Your secrets are safe with them.”

    Good one! LOL!

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 3:58 pm

  568. And yet, APPL has a PE around 9.

    Samsung’s is 10.5

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 3:58 pm

  569. Mr Burgess then quipped: “In that regard of our work being necessarily conducted in secret, I should also acknowledge and welcome the media to Defence Signals Directorate.”

    Ms Gillard quickly responded: “Your secrets are safe with them.”

    That’s certainly been her experience.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 4:02 pm

  570. It had a 15 multiple when it was 700 bucks a share!

    the rumor is that they are coming out with a geewiz TV that could revolutionize the business.

    However even if they do i can see them making as much as they did with the Iphone though. Like how may TVs are they going to sell. It wouldn’t be as big.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:03 pm

  571. oops I can’t

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:05 pm

  572. Snapple makes the Iphone which is a major break through and they earn billions. Every other firm or geek with a top IQ is trying to better them. In other words every capable fucker in the world is trying to beat them at their own game.

    So why then would Snapple stock trade at lofty multiples when they will eventually get pecked to death by other players.

    The thinking goes that they will come out with another iPhone/iPad/iPod/app store combo and wow the world. But a big part of their magic is gone and they are evolutionary rather than revolutionary now. Is not a good story at the moment, they need to come up with another world beating idea to justify their valuation.

    brc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:05 pm

  573. LNKD has a PE over 800, AMZN is apparently over 3300 to 1 and FB is no longer applicable, according the Markwt Watch.

    Explain something JC

    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/LNKD/financials

    Gross income = 397.64 mn USD

    Pretax income 22.95 mn USD

    Net income 11.91 mn USD

    Market cap 12.84 bn USD

    No dividend

    So a bunch of suckers are paying for someone to “invest” in rapidly depreciating, poor ROI assets?

    .

    24 Jan 13 at 4:10 pm

  574. Ken Parish in the news.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 4:12 pm

  575. If the stock gets down to around 350 300 a share I’ll buy

    $140 a share is straight cash which would mean the business would be around 185 bucks a share.

    their sales were 54.5 billion for the quarter and net income was around 14 bucks a share.

    say their income goes down to 10 bucks a share per Q

    that’s 40 bucks annual. that’s freaking good and Snapple being Snapple could always surprise with new products.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:17 pm

  576. Actually it would be more… if you take out the cash.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:18 pm

  577. Being the contrarian that I am, I am really embracing Apple now.

    Steve Jobs dying was the final straw. I could never own the products of a vegan who believed in alternative medicine. Now that it’s run by a geeky homo I’m cool with Apple.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 4:24 pm

  578. From CL’s link, the Lying Slapper is so catatonically stupid she has achieved the exact opposite of what she thought she was doing:

    Mr Parish said he had received a “flood” of emails couched in “pretty strong language” about the decision.

    “There’s a lot of anger within the NT Labor party – there’s no doubt about that – and within indigenous circles as well,” he told ABC radio on Thursday.

    “I think Nova Peris is going to have an uphill battle to get people supporting her on the ground in the territory.”

    Labor strategists have theorised Ms Gillard’s shock decision is part of a strategy to shore up indigenous support for Labor in the territory in an election year, after the party lost support in the last NT election.

    But Mr Parish said it wouldn’t work, and questioned Ms Peris’ credentials.

    The ALP’s NT Senate vote will actually go down as a result of this.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 4:25 pm

  579. Is not a good story at the moment, they need to come up with another world beating idea to justify their valuation.

    How about an Ivote.

    It’s a device that communicates your displeasure at politicians everytime they fuck up.

    Just hit send to the chosen numpty pollie on your pre programmed contact list and it sends a 40,000 volt taser like charge to the receiver’s phone in their pocket.

    Splatacrobat

    24 Jan 13 at 4:26 pm

  580. Gillard’s masterstroke has ensured that Nova Peris will never been seen as anything more than a tinted Cheryl Kernot. A few more days of this and I think she’ll walk.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 4:29 pm

  581. No no, Tom.

    No.

    Hear Lateline’s Suzanne Smith:

    Nova Peris a breath of fresh air for NT politics.

    Julia Gillard has faced criticism over her decision to pick Nova Peris as a Northern Territory Senate candidate in the next federal election. But Suzanne Smith says Gillard has some pretty sound reasons for her decision…

    But don’t envy her even though this is a great accolade. The road ahead will be tough. She could be eaten up by the ALP machine or she could blow a breath of fresh air into the tired and tainted recesses of Federal Parliament. Let’s hope for the latter. The electorate is looking for people like Nova to restore their faith in politics.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 4:30 pm

  582. It’s a device that communicates your displeasure at politicians everytime they fuck up.

    Kalashnikov invested that device years ago.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 4:33 pm

  583. The ALP’s NT Senate vote will actually go down as a result of this.

    She’s actually the right’s secret agent.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:34 pm

  584. Apparently those lucky schools who received $600,000 tuckshops whether they wanted them or not are now being directed to schedule school assemblies where the students shall look and listen in awe to the pie shop thug. Truly, this Government scares me shitless.

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 4:38 pm

  585. A few more days of this and I think she’ll walk.

    Yea, I’m shortening my odds to 7/2 that she will survive. She sounded nervous as fuck on that today show interview. For a treaty ambassador to call somebody a racist hardly furthers the cause.

    Then there is the matter of her (charity) income yet to be troweled through.

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 4:38 pm

  586. Hey Dog

    You wanna follow up on this atrocity. What the fucking hell happened man?

    The Canes demolition of Duke is the most complete game I’ve ever seen from a UM bb team. A night that will be talked about for long time

    And

    “Canes build big first half lead to go 8-0 at home and pick up its first …

    Dude!

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:40 pm

  587. schools ‘that’ not ‘who’

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 4:40 pm

  588. Trawled…

    Speaking of the user friendly efficacy of Snapple products.

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 4:41 pm

  589. Apparently those lucky schools who received $600,000 tuckshops whether they wanted them or not are now being directed to schedule school assemblies where the students shall look and listen in awe to the pie shop thug. Truly, this Government scares me shitless.

    Link?

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 4:42 pm

  590. The electorate is looking for people like Nova to restore their faith in politics.

    By allowing themselves to be cynically used to attract votes based on race. Yeah, no one will see through that, not even those dopes that were so easily manipulated during last Australia Day.

    Keith

    24 Jan 13 at 4:43 pm

  591. http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/01/the-true-reason-for-the-ber-16-billion-for-this.html#mor

    Can’t find it on The Telegraph website now (but only looked quickly)

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 4:50 pm

  592. Let’s hope those BER pie warmers are still working.

    H B Bear

    24 Jan 13 at 4:51 pm

  593. I wonder if Nova has thought through the reality that she will be spending most of her six years in the senate in opposition. It’s not likely that Gillard will survive as Leader or even stay in Parliament.

    I think this whole affair says more about Labor’s fear they could also lose enough Senate seats to the coalition that the LNP might even get a majority in both houses. I recall Antony Green doing some numbers based on NSW, Qld, NT, Vic swings in state elections that theoretically there are enough seats up for grabs. This modelling from memory was not based on any decline in Green votes so I suspect with the Greens now tracking below 2010 figures there should be some very nervous Green Senators as well.

    Splatacrobat

    24 Jan 13 at 4:51 pm

  594. Fair dinkum, the lying slapper was right out of the starting gate in 13.

    She just couldn’t live with herself if she didn’t fuck something up at the start of the year.

    She really is just an incompetent political troll.

    You can’t make up this shit if you tried.

    There’s never any self reflection… like oh I’ve had more than a few fuck ups so I need to tread quietly. Nope. Not for her. It’s straight out the gate and sprint to the next fucking mess.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 4:51 pm

  595. JC, there was the comment from Styant Browne along the lines of, once she makes her mind up, that’s it, no persuading her otherwise.

    She is an obstinate red headed Cnut. No offence to level headed red heads.

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 4:55 pm

  596. “Let’s hope those BER pie warmers are still working.”

    Love your work Mr Bear

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 4:57 pm

  597. 24 January 2013
    Mr [nilk]
    Sent via email: [not my regular one, although legit and with my real name]
    Dear Mr [nilk],

    Thank you for the information you have provided to the Senate Environment and Communications References Committee inquiry into recent trends in and preparedness for extreme weather events.

    The committee has considered this information and has determined that it is not directly relevant to its terms of reference. As such, the committee has agreed not to accept this information and is returning it to you.

    Should you have any further queries, please contact the secretariat on 02 6277 3526 or via email to [email protected].

    Yours sincerely,
    Sophie Dunstone
    Committee Secretary

    Well, I got a reply to my solution for extreme climate change. Too bad they can’t tell that I’m female from my real name.

    Morons.</I

    nilk

    24 Jan 13 at 5:00 pm

  598. From Tracey’s Telegraph link:

    SCHOOLS with recently finished BER buildings will be required to hold election year “recognition ceremonies” at which they are to praise the government and invite federal Employment Minister Bill Shorten to speak.

    An online kit sent to schools advises teachers they are to make “provision in the official proceedings for the minister or his representative to speak” at ceremonies which are not to be planned for parliamentary sitting days.

    Students can only be asked to speak “where possible and where time permits”.

    Schools are directed to “acknowledge the government’s assistance in all speeches and publicity issued by the school such as newsletters, websites or local media articles”.

    Staff are also told they are to “record the day through photographs or video footage” and publish the material on the school website and to provide parking for guests, with a government plaque to be fixed to the building.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 5:01 pm

  599. Hope this closes the tag.

    Amusingly enough, the rejection came in the form of a pdf, yet the salutation on the email was correctly gendered.

    Comprehension is not high on the scale of things in greenland.

    nilk

    24 Jan 13 at 5:02 pm

  600. Gillard thinks Nova Peris will save Labor’s collapsing front similar to Hitler’s faith in Steiner.

    Splatacrobat

    24 Jan 13 at 5:03 pm

  601. Is that legal?

    Dan

    24 Jan 13 at 5:05 pm

  602. Well, it does look like the police are really and truly investigating that Fitzroy P/A question. If it was rigged up, Gillard will be finished. And that’s not Smithian exaggeration. She’ll be absolutely fucked.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 5:06 pm

  603. Schools are directed to “acknowledge the government’s assistance in all speeches and publicity issued by the school such as newsletters, websites or local media articles”.

    “Dear Leader,

    Ttractor factory B49 wishes to report that we have smashed the previous record of tractor production. We are all most grateful for the bountiful harvest the state has provided and thank you for the potatoes you brought today.”

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 5:07 pm

  604. I’m looking forward to Campbell Newman’s response if they try to inflict Bill on the Qld kiddies

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 5:10 pm

  605. There’s never any self reflection… like oh I’ve had more than a few fuck ups so I need to tread quietly. Nope. Not for her. It’s straight out the gate and sprint to the next fucking mess.

    She’s very arrogant and believes she’s not made any f/ups at all. Such hubris in one so comprehensively dumb is dangerous indeed.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 5:10 pm

  606. C.L.,

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/police_step_up_investigation_into_gillards_awu_scandal/

    VICTORIAN detectives have expanded their investigation into the purchase of a Fitzroy house with union slush fund money controlled by the disgraced former boyfriend of Prime Minister Julia Gillard.…

    SMITH WAS RIGHT

    .

    24 Jan 13 at 5:11 pm

  607. Staff are also told they are to “record the day through photographs or video footage” and publish the material on the school website and to provide parking for guests, with a government plaque to be fixed to the building.

    You’ve got to be kidding me? Have they gone completely mad with power?

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 5:12 pm

  608. &#9835 Jodine, Jodine, Jodine, JODINE… &#9835

    In The Australian: Committee examines discrimination bill.

    QUEENSLAND sex worker Jodine reckons new federal legislation must outlaw the discrimination she experiences every day.

    “I have been evicted from my leased accommodation, physically locked out of my car park, my gate codes changed so I couldn’t get in. I have had money stolen by real estate agents withholding part of my rent for no reason other than I am a sex worker,” she says in a submission to a Senate committee.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 5:16 pm

  609. Stupid musical symbol html.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 5:17 pm

  610. On the other side of the spectrum, an unnamed person says society is already over-regulated and there’s a perfectly good manual for human behaviour – the Bible.

    Spot on. Obey the Golden Rule, stop coveting your neighbour’s ass and things are sweet as.

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 5:21 pm

  611. Schools are directed to “acknowledge the government’s assistance in all speeches and publicity issued by the school such as newsletters, websites or local media articles”.

    I’m surprised they haven’t asked the kiddies to also do some “strength through joy” activities to further show their appreciation to the State who feeds and educates them.

    Maybe a little book burning on the school oval with a march past by torchlight to really get the littlies enthused about who really loves them.

    Splatacrobat

    24 Jan 13 at 5:25 pm

  612. Fair dinkum, the lying slapper was right out of the starting gate in 13.

    No JC. There’s only 8 gates. We’re talking Dapto. She races all right, but in the guts of a greyhound.

    Pickles

    24 Jan 13 at 5:26 pm

  613. There’s never any self reflection… like oh I’ve had more than a few fuck ups so I need to tread quietly.

    It doesn’t matter how carefully she treads there is always another rake to step on.

    Splatacrobat

    24 Jan 13 at 5:30 pm

  614. How long before gillard/shorten/any of the freedom hating government mongrels/ dictate that school kids must report to teachers any adult who does not speak favorably of the ALP, the current government and unions?

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 5:30 pm

  615. the indoctrination of Mao, which was still inscribed on a few school walls today, was impressed in her mind as a primary school girl.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 5:32 pm

  616. It doesn’t matter how carefully she treads there is always another rake to step on.

    Spalt, the moron sprints to the next rake like her life depended on it.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 5:32 pm

  617. Population control stoush between Hill and Bindi.

    Dick Smith’s mentioned, too.

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 5:33 pm

  618. Just replaced the adult’s face with either gillard or Shorten, somebody please.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 5:35 pm

  619. If Nova Peris is being parked as a placement for Crossin then she will be number one on the ticket and will fill one of the two senate seats for the NT. she is guaranteed a win. But given her employment history of basically consulting for politicians, I suspect she will be quite comfortable with at least six years of opposition. All care and no accountability. In fact after six years she might not want to be in government. In position, is he will also be shielded from the treatment that Cheryl Kernot endured at the hands of the rank and file to a degree.

    Entropy

    24 Jan 13 at 5:37 pm


  620. “I have been evicted from my leased accommodation, physically locked out of my car park, my gate codes changed so I couldn’t get in. I have had money stolen by real estate agents withholding part of my rent for no reason other than I am a sex worker,” she says in a submission to a Senate committee.


    Isn’t it funny how trouble seems to follow some people? I suspect it isn’t actually her resume(of which many would be unaware) that is causing the problems.

    Entropy

    24 Jan 13 at 5:39 pm

  621. How long before gillard/shorten/any of the freedom hating government mongrels/ dictate that school kids must report to teachers any adult who does not speak favorably of the ALP, the current government and unions?

    And Gab, report on all teachers who fail to provide appropriate support for the Guvmint.

    Jannie

    24 Jan 13 at 5:41 pm

  622. 1.Start as early as possible.
    2.Persistently teach and praise the desired doctrine over a long period of time, preferably years.
    3.Demonize alternative views and/or insulate the child from them.
    4.Teach the child that he is not capable of making decisions about beliefs for himself (i.e., that obedience to authority is paramount).
    5.Make the child believe that he owes it to you to uphold your worldview. Make him believe he has a debt to pay. In short, use guilt.
    6.Discourage doubt by characterizing it as a weakness.
    7.Immerse the child in a social environment composed only of people with the same beliefs.

    Indoctrination of school kids the Mao/Hitler way being practiced in schools here.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 5:45 pm

  623. Gab @ 1712,

    Standard condition of a Federal Funding Contract – Labor or Lib.

    Mike of Marion

    24 Jan 13 at 5:49 pm

  624. Gab @ 1712,

    Standard condition of a Federal Funding Contract – Labor or Lib.

    Seriously?

    Have the fuckers forgotten who they work for? (Rhetorical question.)

    Eddystone

    24 Jan 13 at 5:56 pm

  625. Hey all, can’t get over the doom and devastation that’s being reported on TV about the ” weather ” up here.
    Got 250mm of rain and a little blowy, stock standard normal for this time of year.
    My prediction ?
    The sun out for Australia and normal mega humidity.( love it )
    The high coming into the bight pushes ex Oswald NE, reforms and then it’s anyones guess.

    Moral of the story: Don’t believe ” journalists “

    jumpnmcar

    24 Jan 13 at 5:57 pm

  626. 1.Start as early as possible.
    2.Persistently teach and praise the desired doctrine over a long period of time, preferably years.
    3.Demonize alternative views and/or insulate the child from them.
    4.Teach the child that he is not capable of making decisions about beliefs for himself (i.e., that obedience to authority is paramount).
    5.Make the child believe that he owes it to you to uphold your worldview. Make him believe he has a debt to pay. In short, use guilt.
    6.Discourage doubt by characterizing it as a weakness.
    7.Immerse the child in a social environment composed only of people with the same beliefs.

    Religion, too much of academia, political movements, causes, all do that.

    John H.

    24 Jan 13 at 5:58 pm

  627. Is it just me, or does anyone else suspect the real sleeper on dodgy AWU-types ‘fundraising’ is the Kalgoorlie widows and orphans fund ?

    I mean – Young & Naive skipping out of Kalgoorlie with Wilson and a carpetbag full of money intended to care for the surviving families of deceased miners that, to the best of my understanding, has vanished from sight ?

    This is just wrong on so many levels – how come it seems to have sunk to the bottom of the harbour ( so to speak ) ?

    Myrrdin Seren

    24 Jan 13 at 6:00 pm

  628. MS It aint sunk read Pickering for major news

    fey

    24 Jan 13 at 6:03 pm

  629. I never worry about children being forced-fed Left wing bullshit from an early age.

    Teenage rebellion and all that, they’ll end up hard core libertarians and conservatives for life.

    MDMConnell

    24 Jan 13 at 6:04 pm

  630. When I was directly involved in 2004, it was Brendan Nelson as Min of Ed.

    Commw wanted all kudos for the funding. Name of the game was to absolutely diminish any State Politicians and esp ministers . Plaque was attached to strict Commw criteria. mike

    Mike of Marion

    24 Jan 13 at 6:05 pm

  631. I’m shocked, shocked.

    The Washington Post reports:

    In an unfolding plot that is part “The Sopranos,” part “An Inconvenient Truth,” authorities swept across Sicily last month in the latest wave of sting operations revealing years of deep infiltration into the renewable energy sector by Italy’s rapidly modernizing crime families.

    The still-emerging links of the mafia to the once-booming wind and solar sector here are raising fresh questions about the use of government subsidies to fuel a shift toward cleaner energies, with critics claiming huge state incentives created excessive profits for companies and a market bubble ripe for fraud.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 6:14 pm

  632. You can’t make this shit up for a Soprano’s segment.

    PALERMO, Italy — Inside a midnight-blue BMW, a Sicilian entrepreneur delivered his pitch to the accused mafia boss. A new business was blowing into Italy that could spin wind and sunlight into gold, ensuring the future of the Earth as well as the Cosa Nostra: renewable energy.

    “Uncle Vincenzo,” implored the businessman, Angelo Salvatore, using a term of affection for the alleged head of Sicily’s Gimbellina crime family, 79-year-old Vincenzo Funari. According to a transcript of their wiretapped conversation, Salvatore continued, “for the love of our sons, renewable energy is important. . . . it’s a business we can live on.”

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 6:16 pm

  633. This is a fucking liberty quote.

    “for the love of our sons, renewable energy is important. . . . it’s a business we can live on.”

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 6:20 pm

  634. Ahahahahahaha.

    Don Al Gore must be the boss of bosses.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 6:21 pm

  635. Population control stoush between Hill and Bindi.

    “My party is about to start, and I hear a knock at the door. My friends are here! Only, when I open the door, 70 of my friends are standing there wanting to come to the party!

    “What do I do? My room is only big enough to fit 15, with 70 we won’t have any room to move and dance. I don’t have enough food. Do I divide the sandwiches among the 70 people? But then everyone will still be hungry. What about the party bags? Do I only give the party bags out to my closest friends? Isn’t that unfair to everyone else?

    “That is the crisis facing mother earth today.”

    Dear Bindi,
    Just tell the extra “not invited” friends to fuck off and that you have called the police to tow their vehicles back to where they came from whilst it is safe to do so.

    I understand how you feel being cooped up with 55 more moochers than you catered for, however you really need to harden up and grow some balls like I had to when Bill would invite way more interns than was healthy for a middle age man to that tiny oval office while I was away on business trips. He soon stopped when I threatened to do a Bobbit on him.

    Leave the problem of how to feed the multitudes to Jesus and get back to doing that “crikey” shit you do on TV.

    Best regards, Hillary

    Splatacrobat

    24 Jan 13 at 6:22 pm

  636. “for the love of our sons, renewable energy is important. . . . it’s a business we can live on.”

    Renewable energy more profitable for the Mafia than prostitution and drugs. And just as immoral.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:27 pm

  637. They don’t see it as immoral Gab. It’s an arbitrage with a little muscle thrown in. :-)

    What a fucking circus this renball busllshit has turned into. It’s actually fraud.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 6:28 pm

  638. You forgot the semicolon, CL.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:29 pm

  639. Drugs and prostitution are way more moral in my view Gab. If you don’t want to avail yourself of drugs and prostitution you’re not forced to foot the bill for them for those who do.

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 6:31 pm

  640. Actually, prostitution and drugs racket is nowhere near as immoral as the renewball energy scam.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:33 pm

  641. Gab
    I’m a nice chap and your feeling mean alot to me, but that is the ugliest fuckin avatar I’ve ever seen.
    .
    Respectfully yours,
    Jumpy :)

    jumpnmcar

    24 Jan 13 at 6:38 pm

  642. Standard condition of a Federal Funding Contract – Labor or Lib.

    Is it also a standard condition for both lib or lab to require schools

    to hold election year “recognition ceremonies” at which they are to praise the government and invite federal Employment Minister Bill Shorten to speak.

    And is it a standard condition that both federal partys require schools to make

    “provision in the official proceedings for the minister or his representative to speak” at ceremonies which are not to be planned for parliamentary sitting days.

    Students can only be asked to speak “where possible and where time permits”.

    Schools are directed to “acknowledge the government’s assistance in all speeches and publicity issued by the school such as newsletters, websites or local media articles”.

    Really?

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:39 pm

  643. and your feeling mean alot to me,

    What does that mean, Jump? I’m being mean to you?

    but that is the ugliest fuckin avatar I’ve ever seen.
    .

    Wait til you see what I look like. Then you can make that claim.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:41 pm

  644. Police yesterday arrested two men Raghib Raad, 26, at Chester Hill, and at Auburn, Recep Irmak, the two were involved in a drug dispute which led to a man being shot at Auburn on Sunday. Earlier this week police arrested Ali Irmak, 33, and Murat Gulasi, 24, in the suburb of Sefton.

    The usual suspects! MOMMEA!

    stackja

    24 Jan 13 at 6:44 pm

  645. Wait til you see what I look like. Then you can make that claim.

    Bullshit, your modesty is unnecessary.
    Your real identity is safe with me.

    jumpnmcar

    24 Jan 13 at 6:50 pm

  646. Whatever. When was I mean to you, J?

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:51 pm

  647. HA, oh, I got it now.
    I missed an “s”

    I’m a nice chap and your feelingS mean alot to me, but that is the ugliest fuckin avatar I’ve ever seen.

    jumpnmcar

    24 Jan 13 at 6:58 pm

  648. lol.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 6:59 pm

  649. WWIII averted.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 7:01 pm

  650. Ah, Jump, this is the real Gab

    Septimus

    24 Jan 13 at 7:04 pm

  651. No. This is me. I’m always the rebel in the middle.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 7:09 pm

  652. I see the Katterites are just total fuckwits as you’d expect.

    Pedro

    24 Jan 13 at 7:12 pm

  653. This is the most surprising poll result ever:

    http://www.theage.com.au/polls/gun-shy-20130123-2d757.html

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 7:17 pm

  654. Septimus

    Even a Roxon avatar is better than the pigdog Gabs got now.

    jumpnmcar

    24 Jan 13 at 7:17 pm

  655. Rita is nice and all, but I always had a thing for Ava Gardner, or at a pinch Hedley Hedy Lamar.

    entropy

    24 Jan 13 at 7:18 pm

  656. Your critics are correct, Gabrielle. Carmen Miranda was a B-Grader. Besides, I used to live with a very pretty cabaret actress who used to wear CM’s camp fruit hat in her act. Tawdry. Rita Hayworth is your go. All class. Put it right.

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 7:44 pm

  657. That’s Hedley!

    nilk

    24 Jan 13 at 7:45 pm

  658. She’s very pretty in my eyes, Thomas. Perhaps you need to click on the gravtar and enbiggen for a better looksee.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 8:13 pm

  659. Today we have the mad hatter’s un-birthday tea party bouncing two candidates for being homophobic. Society has gone mad along with them, or the narrative is being hijacked (as often happens) by the media, among whom are those sometimes referred to as the gay-b-c.

    Incidentally, you should have heard David Marr have a spasm on 702 Journos Forum today! The churches are apparently going to have an exemption from the discrimination act and sack all the gay cleaners, or something.

    But back to the argument. Let me know when the three major religions in our culture, Christians, the Jews and the Islamics, all have high officials saying that homosexuality is ok. Check with the Hindus ands Sikhs while you’re at it.

    I think you’ll find that as far as they’ll go is to say hate the sin and not the sinner, at least as far as the Christians are concerned. Some others may weasel word it, but you know they want to kill the homosexuals, as their teaching says to, not just “sack the cleaners”.
    So why is any party like the hatters (and bear in mind they are trying to appeal to a rural constituency!) standing up on this issue against all those religious perspectives?

    And why do we tolerate gay activism by a minority intent on pushing the whole society down the road of not just acceptance of their lifestyle, but acceptance of their proselytizing and affirmative action agenda?

    blogstrop

    24 Jan 13 at 8:23 pm

  660. I’d wanted to be nice about it, but embiggenation can’t hide the truth, young lady: CARMEN MIRANDA WAS A TRAMP!!!

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 8:24 pm

  661. Miranda was pretty cute, as are many Brazilian ladies.

    blogstrop

    24 Jan 13 at 8:25 pm

  662. Half her luck, Thomas. She had a good time on this planet.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 8:27 pm

  663. I wish all of the (modern) Brazilian star Marisa Monte’s recordings were as charming as this one, Onde Andaras. She’s hugely popular and I have several of her CDs, but this is still the standout track.

    blogstrop

    24 Jan 13 at 8:35 pm

  664. It’s started already. The idiot in the red bandanna is on 7:30 bleating about the horrors of the Union Jack being on our flag. Honestly we could just re-roll the tape year in year out. Haven’t seen Ray Martin yet but he should be along any minute now.

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 8:36 pm

  665. Katter’s woman is entitled to her opinion.

    She said she wouldn’t want either child molesters or homosexuals teaching her children.

    Well, that’s her call.

    ‘strop is right. Katter has been shown up as a gutless pansy at the first hurdle.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 8:38 pm

  666. Also on 7.30… LOL.

    And see if you pick the fatuous guilt by association…

    LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: A surge in illegal gun imports is fuelling a spike in public shootings in Australia, particularly in Sydney.

    Across the country, the illegal gun trade is booming and according to police, criminal syndicates are now importing more weapons than ever before.

    They’re alarmingly easy to get. Many are ordered online and come direct from the manufacturer straight through Australia Post.

    Adding to that, legal and licensed gun owners have more firearms today than they did before the Port Arthur massacre in 1996.

    Caro Meldrum-Hanna reports.

    So there you have it.

    Criminals do not store their guns in safes!

    They import loads of them easily!

    They’re easy to get!

    Criminals commit crimes with them!

    [*cough*]

    Law-abiding citizens also dangerous gun heads and stuff! Port Arthur ‘n that.

    http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3675337.htm

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 8:47 pm

  667. Brazilian women are vastly overrated, Strop. With their Spanish and Mapucho Indian blood, South America’s true beauties are Chilean, IMO. I was in Santiago for the return of democracy and the end of Pinochet in 1990. Fun times (apart from the water cannon and the tear gas).

    Tom

    24 Jan 13 at 8:48 pm

  668. Interesting snippet from Bolta, suggesting our prospective Aboriginal senator is part Filipino and part Danish.

    Anyway, a triumph of multiculturalism whichever way you look at it.

    Poor Old Rafe

    24 Jan 13 at 8:48 pm

  669. Criminals do not store their guns in safes!

    They import loads of them easily!

    They’re easy to get!

    Criminals commit crimes with them!

    Clearly the answer id to ban all guns and that way the crims won’t have any.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 8:52 pm

  670. A surge in illegal gun imports is fuelling a spike in public shootings in Australia, particularly in Sydney.

    This is actually just rank xenophobia, and very stupid.

    .

    24 Jan 13 at 8:56 pm

  671. On the plus side, the sneering Sales just got herself owned by Alison Anderson.

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 8:56 pm

  672. Young Caro was the work experience student sent to interview Mr Wilson wasn’t she?

    Tracey

    24 Jan 13 at 8:58 pm

  673. Anderson did well on 730. Even after Sales impugned her honesty.

    Pickles

    24 Jan 13 at 8:59 pm

  674. You forgot the semicolon, CL.

    Smarty skirt.

    C.L.

    24 Jan 13 at 8:59 pm

  675. Interesting snippet from Bolta,

    That will be Roxoned quickly.

    stackja

    24 Jan 13 at 9:01 pm

  676. Splat, 6:22

    LOLz, I like that!

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 9:11 pm

  677. Gorgeous photo of Gab (LOL) there septimus.

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 9:18 pm

  678. so how about if liberals where fear dinkum they would stop all funding for so called university’s

    NoFixedAddress

    24 Jan 13 at 9:30 pm

  679. NT Senators don’t enjoy the 2-term privilege that state Senators have.

    Peris would need to be pre-selected every 3 years.

    Jacques Chester

    24 Jan 13 at 9:37 pm

  680. peris is gone like gilliy…

    NoFixedAddress

    24 Jan 13 at 9:53 pm

  681. My dearly beloved has just toasted a French Brioche (milk and honey roll) for her dessert. It has left the pleasant aroma in the air of the Douwe Egberts pipe tobacco that I used to smoke many years ago. She says it was delicious :)

    Septimus

    24 Jan 13 at 10:00 pm

  682. Also, Peris won Olympic gold once, in 1996, as part of the Women’s hockey team.

    Jacques Chester

    24 Jan 13 at 10:03 pm

  683. Harrys on the Boat

    24 Jan 13 at 10:09 pm

  684. To all who might be interested – apparently, Gab, Lizzie and Candy are the splitting image of this young woman.

    Who’da thunk it?

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 10:26 pm

  685. Kae:

    Gorgeous photo of Gab (LOL) there septimus.

    As Gab said at 8.51pm on 22 Jan, before changing to her Carmen Miranda gravatar:

    Sept, that’s a pic of me when I was Rita Hayworth

    Septimus

    24 Jan 13 at 10:34 pm

  686. Isn’t she beautiful! I wish I resembled her, Rabz! Hey maybe the others are an 8 or 9, but not me. So have no illusions of gorgeousness about me, Rabz lest you be sorely disappointed.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 10:37 pm

  687. To all who might be interested – apparently, Gab, Lizzie and Candy are the splitting image of this young woman.

    Who’da thunk it?

    I never had a doubt. Libertarians gals are good looking for the most part.. as they should be.

    Jc

    24 Jan 13 at 10:40 pm

  688. Gab, she is beautiful. And it is a fabulous photo of her.

    I love the clothes from that era.

    Peplums, the shoes, all that stuff. So flattering.

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 10:51 pm

  689. I wish I looked like this famous redheaded actress and comedian.

    Instead I was likened to this one.

    kae

    24 Jan 13 at 11:04 pm

  690. Labor is officially at the bottom of the barrel.

    There, the desperate scrabbling of Woyne Swan has found…..ta da…….the magic bullet……..the thing that’s going to make everyone fall in love with them again……The RepublicTM!!!!!!

    The man is lameness exemplified, personified and made flesh.

    James in Melbourne

    24 Jan 13 at 11:14 pm

  691. Sinc, have you seen this academic’s work on how people form broader beliefs about climate change on the basis of localized experiences?

    Second PDF on updating.

    http://economics.mit.edu/grad/tatyanad/research

    Abu Chowdah

    24 Jan 13 at 11:14 pm

  692. All jokes aside, Swan must be functionally retarded?

    Infidel Tiger

    24 Jan 13 at 11:19 pm

  693. All jokes aside, Swan must be functionally retarded?

    He is certainly the thickest man ever to hold his office.

    But he believes it – he really, sincerely, honest-to-God believes that the Republic card will deal them back into the game.

    Remind us again, Woyne, what was the ROI on your stimulus?

    James in Melbourne

    24 Jan 13 at 11:23 pm

  694. The RepublicTM!!!!!!

    FFS, they’re trying to resurrect that fucking deceased plastic turkey?!?!?

    Go for it, you dick heads!

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 11:27 pm

  695. He is certainly the thickest man ever to hold his office.

    The cream of the ALP crop.

    Gab

    24 Jan 13 at 11:28 pm

  696. The cream of the ALP crop.

    Surpluses, forevah, I tells ya!*

    *This ALP message may bear absolutely no resemblance to reality whatsoevah. Message written and spoken by Woine Goose and Juliar Lardarse-Dullard for the ALP…

    Rabz

    24 Jan 13 at 11:37 pm

  697. Dorothy Lamour was a bit of a stunner. And she could sing.

    For zany and street smart Joan Blondell and Jean Arthur were pretty good too.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 12:02 am

  698. So congratulations are due to Nova Perris – the first Danish-Filippina senator in Australian history.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 12:08 am

  699. Barack Hussein Obama gives Jew-hating terrorist Mohammed Morsi 16 F-16s.

    For free.

    For real.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 12:17 am

  700. I’m going to get bumper stickers made, “point Peris at the Parliament”

    nic

    25 Jan 13 at 12:17 am

  701. Her great grandfather was a “white Irishman”.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 12:17 am

  702. The Republic is to Labor what a unicorn is to a leftist as in ‘oh, look, a unicorn’ when cornered in an argument they are losing.

    nic

    25 Jan 13 at 12:19 am

  703. Haven’t heard a peep out of Mal Fraser on the Republic.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 12:20 am

  704. Here we go again. Labor members start smear war against Danish-Fillipina-Irish trailblazer Nova Peris. Now watch as this is transformed into Abbott’s racism.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 12:24 am

  705. Ms Anderson, a former Labor Party member, said the ALP had been “false friends of Aboriginal people for many decades”.

    Dynamite.

    Keep wading into the mire, you clueless Danish-Fillipina-Irish narcissist!

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 12:38 am

  706. Haven’t heard a peep out of Mal Fraser Turnbull on the Republic.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 12:42 am

  707. Haven’t heard a peep out of mal fraser on the republic.

    Still trying to find his strides, no doubt.

    Per’aps they’re in mugabwe?

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 12:43 am

  708. Thanks Gab* – FFS, turnbull’s a nonentity.

    Never even realised you might have been referring to that loathsome, incompetent self aggrandising clusterfuck…

    *Why’s she on about pantsoff?! – he was thinking…

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 12:46 am

  709. An amusing must-read from James Taranto on Hillary Clinton’s media-lionised performance at the Libya embassy hearings.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 12:51 am

  710. Hey Dog

    You wanna follow up on this atrocity. What the fucking hell happened man?

    To borrow from Hillary Clinton, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!

    Oi. What a game.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 1:03 am

  711. Someone else may already have linked this, but it’s worth a read:
    Quadrant Online: The Nova Peris medicine show

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 1:05 am

  712. The Tobin post Taranto quoted is a good one, CL:

    “What Difference Does It Make? Plenty.”

    The answer to her question is clear. An administration that sought, for political purposes, to give the American people the idea that al-Qaeda had been “decimated” and was effectively out of commission had a clear motive during a presidential campaign to mislead the public about Benghazi. The fact that questions are still unanswered about this crime and that Clinton and President Obama seem more interested in burying this story along with the four Americans that died is an outrage that won’t be forgotten.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 1:12 am

  713. Nice link, spot.

    Nice work, Roger Franklin.

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 1:23 am

  714. Interesting look at the future of goods shipment around the world. If this big fucker gets off the ground it will revolutionize the movement of goods and could actually put a lot of ships outta business.

    500 tons at a time. Wow

    It could even be computerized with no need for personnel.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/a-giant-floating-airship-could-be-future-of-flight-fwQl8D1ZSjWwx5lNNvHOvg.html

    Jc

    25 Jan 13 at 1:59 am

  715. Ye, kae. It’s good to see that her website was captured by the wayback machine too.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 2:01 am

  716. “Where We Been”

    I hope they make her Education Minister.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 2:06 am

  717. Beautiful airships.

    I wonder if these newer, high-tech versions might also have passenger potential – for the more leisurely traveller.

    The video presentation skipped over the question of long-haul carriage, however. They can’t haul 500 tons across oceans or countries at 130 mph.

    ?

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 2:22 am

  718. Hey Dot

    Just for you. I love this happy bald guy. He’s a hedge fundi by the name of David Tepper and also owns the Pittsburg Steelers.

    Listen to him ironing out his investment strategy while also monkeying around with the adorable red head who seems in love with him.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/what-s-alpha-star-david-tepper-s-winning-strategy-XGkNGSi1RdCe3C3FSdhJmQ.html

    Jc

    25 Jan 13 at 2:23 am

  719. CL

    The old airships used to go from Europe to the US, so I don’t think these would have much of a long haul problem either, no?

    They could also end up taking a lot of the long truck business seeing they can basically off load in a large parking lot not requiring an airport.

    They can’t haul 500 tons across oceans or countries at 130 mph.

    They are most likely filled with helium (i think) so they wouldn’t have the issue regular planes do where the engines have to keep the weight off the ground as well as send object in a forward direction. The blurb talked about how they only need about 1/3 of the fuel. The engines would be used mostly for forward direction.

    Of course they are slower, but it would be much cheaper to move cargo around the world.

    Jc

    25 Jan 13 at 2:31 am

  720. Testing

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:35 am

  721. oh good.

    I’m changing my moniker for a couple of days or so.

    JC

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:35 am

  722. JC: No.

    Dogs Against Frank Walker

    25 Jan 13 at 2:46 am

  723. John H.

    25 Jan 13 at 4:22 am

  724. How restaurant reviews should be written:

    The sheila was back in a flash, because speed is what Bimbo’s is all about, but you’d need to do a course in speed reading to get through all the items. There must be a hundred of them. I had time to see you could get breakfast food and two soups, and she was saying What would you like. By golly she reminded me of my girlfriend’s old woman, except she knew what I would like and did her darndest to see I didn’t get it. Still, that was a lot of miles ago.

    Marvellous. RTWT. H/T Blair.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 5:19 am

  725. Having got away with it for 27 years, political activist Pat O’Shane takes the coward’s way out to avoid a finding of professional misconduct:

    CONTROVERSIAL magistrate Pat O’Shane will retire from the bench today – just weeks before she was due to face a verdict from the judicial commission which could have ruled she was unfit for the job.

    Ms O’Shane will sit for her final day prior to going on long service leave until June 19, around the time she reaches the compulsory retirement age of 72.

    It draws the curtain on a controversial 27-year career, during which she has raised the ire of police, prosecutors and the public.

    In a recent controversy last January, Premier Barry O’Farrell referred Ms O’Shane’s conduct to the judicial commission over her dismissal of charges involving a man accused of assaulting a paramedic when she accused the ambulance worker of being racist.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 5:34 am

  726. sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 5:47 am

  727. Cote de Bogan latest:

    Australian men arrested over Phuket shooting.

    Real class demographic getting to that place.

    I resemble that remark.

    Yobbo

    25 Jan 13 at 5:51 am

  728. The penny drops with the ALP backbench: as a creation of the extreme left, Gillard’s instinct is to use communist terror tactics to keep her job:

    NERVOUS Labor MPs say anxious caucus members fear Julia Gillard may dispose of them before the election in the same way Senator Trish Crossin’s career was terminated.

    There are concerns within Labor ranks the tactic used to put Nova Peris into the NT’s top Senate spot would be used to “entrench” the leadership of the party.

    Several MPs said they regarded the use of the National Executive to oust Ms Crossin, a supporter of Kevin Rudd, as an unprecedented use of power by Ms Gillard to remove a representative.

    “There are a lot of caucus members who are worrying what it means for them if they are not seen as an absolute star or a supporter,” one MP said. “It has set a very damaging precedent.”

    The anxiety generated by Ms Crossin’s knifing was exacerbated because Ms Gillard had previously seen off Kevin Rudd and Harry Jenkins from their positions, MPs said.

    One Labor MP even likened the move to end Ms Crossin’s career to communist ideology of “executing one to educate a thousand”.

    “She is heading down a dangerous path and setting a dangerous precedent if a leader can pick caucus members on the basis of patronage,” the MP said. “We are risking seeing candidates selected to entrench the leader.”

    If the backbench sheep hadn’t gone along with the execution of Rudd last year, they’d have an alternative, but they did, so they don’t.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 5:53 am

  729. Heheheh

    Lucky Abbott, ‘onya Michelle.

    Rudiau

    25 Jan 13 at 5:57 am

  730. Voters are nostalgic for what they voted to get rid of to install the thieving bastards now ransacking the national treasury:

    LITTLE Johnny Howard has proved to be a giant among his contemporaries, voted the country’s best prime minister of the past quarter century.

    But there is little cheer for Julia Gillard this Australia Day after she rated last in a new poll.

    Mr Howard was considered by 35 per cent of just over 1000 people polled by Galaxy as Australia’s best leader of a generation. Just 5 per cent felt the same about Ms Gillard.

    Among Labor voters Ms Gillard’s support (11 per cent) was almost identical to Mr Howard’s (10 per cent).

    Among all voters Ms Gillard was outshone by the man she deposed, with Kevin Rudd tying on 16 per cent with Bob Hawke.

    Older voters have also been underwhelmed by Ms Gillard, with 3 per cent of respondents aged 50 to 64 rating her as the best prime minister compared to 6 per cent of those aged 18 to 34.

    Paul Keating ranked fourth, with 9 per cent of people considering him the best prime minister of the past 25 years.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 6:04 am

  731. So in other words, 65% of people thought one of the Labor PMs was better than Howard. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, especially since that includes 30% of Liberal voters.

    Yobbo

    25 Jan 13 at 6:17 am

  732. There’s a bit of a flap on now over Azarenka’s time out. As you may recall, I had severe reservations when Zheng did it to Stosur, coming back into play like a person possessed.

    Blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 6:22 am

  733. Those polls are a sideshow and likely to be fairly abitrary.

    Blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 6:25 am

  734. Michael Smith reports the cold shoulder from Ray Hadley. So much for Faufacts Radio, it’s leaving the field open for 2GB to continue to be the one, particularly at 8 pm each weeknight!

    Blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 6:29 am

  735. Piers Morgan: Attacking Hillary Clinton For Her Incompetence In Allowing 4 Americans To Be Butchered Is “Misogyny”

    —Ace

    And criticizing Obama (as we know) is “racism.”

    There’s just no legitimate grounds whatsoever to criticize our president or his inferior servants.

    Yes, indeed, this is precisely what an advanced liberal society is supposed to look like. Not Orwellian at all.

    More… Palace Guard duty from the supposedly-independent press here, here, and of course from Andrea Mitchell.

    I’m getting a little bit weary, I’ll be honest with you, with the relentless attacks first on Susan Rice and now on Hillary Clinton. There’s a – a whisper of misogyny to it, I think, and it’s getting pretty, I think, incestuous and very Washington-orientated rather than in the national interest of America,” Morgan lamented.

    Yeah but Shuddup.

    Actually, Condoleezza Rice took some serious vitriol when she was Bush’s nominee for Secretary of State, and as the Washington Post reported, she got “the most negative votes cast against a nominee for that post in 180 years.”

    Rudiau

    25 Jan 13 at 6:36 am

  736. When are we going to hear the same accusations about the carbon market that we heard about the toxic mortgage CDO market? The European carbon market is collapsing, but the fakeness of the carbon market is somehow different?

    Blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 6:41 am

  737. BBC censors “niggers” and “wogs” references from Fawlty Towers.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 6:43 am

  738. I wish I looked like this famous redheaded actress and comedian.

    Instead I was likened to this one.

    Hi kae
    Both are gorgeous –

    Thank heavens for small mercies you aren’t anything like this one

    Tintarella di Luna

    25 Jan 13 at 6:48 am

  739. BBC censors “niggers” and “wogs” references from Fawlty Towers.
    Strange- in the re-releases of the Goon Shows, they have been restoring the sequences where Milligan and Sellers impersonate Indians, which have been long cut from the versions broadcast (excised for “timing reasons” /sarc off).

    Cold-Hands

    25 Jan 13 at 6:56 am

  740. Well this security guard should have had some of gun control.

    or

    can’t even shoot blanks now.

    Comment

    Attempting to put the best face on this, in the medical report one of the surgeons remarked that “He had to be a crack shot to hit such a small target with one shot!”

    Rudiau

    25 Jan 13 at 6:57 am

  741. Tom Maquire has been taking a second look at a lot of those “gun stats” and other claims being pushed by gun-grabbers lately. Worth a look if you’re interested in that issue.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 7:00 am

  742. I was thinking last night tha Peris should be grateful for one thing: it is much better to be known as “the captain’s pick than it would to be known as “Gillard’s pick”.

    Entropy

    25 Jan 13 at 7:10 am

  743. Whoops! Thought Hadley was 2UE. My bad. Shows how much daytime “jock” I listen to.

    blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 7:16 am

  744. Splatacrobat @ 1202,

    Your ‘Jean Arthur’ image sure looks like a young Gracie Allen – George Burn’s spouse.

    Mike

    Mike of Marion

    25 Jan 13 at 7:21 am

  745. Thank christ for that Roger Franklin Quadrant article. So, we were right to question this peris moocher.

    I hope she gets howled out of town by people like anderson or price for being part of the aboriginal inner city industry.

    Dan

    25 Jan 13 at 7:36 am

  746. So there’s another race riot going on. This time up north.
    “Hey Gingerella, didya lose a shoe? No, found one”.

    Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 7:42 am

  747. The Bolta spotlights Scott Morrison’s critique of Multiculturalism.

    THE opposition’s immigration spokesman, Scott Morrison, has reignited the debate over multiculturalism at the start of the election year, declaring a shift away from diversity to a more inclusive national identity is needed.

    The Liberal frontbencher used an address to the Menzies Centre for Australian Studies in London to outline the Coalition’s plan to reframe the debate around multiculturalism and “restore some balance” by emphasising what Australians have in common rather than social, ethnic or cultural differences.

    Outlining his vision for a “post-multiculturalism approach”, Mr Morrison said Labor had spent too much time promoting the virtues of diversity.

    Maybe there’s some hope for the Coalition.

    Cold-Hands

    25 Jan 13 at 7:46 am

  748. Abu – no I haven’t seen that work before. Just read the abstract – seems reasonable. Long term drought is likely to cause people to worry about climate change. We saw that in Australia, but when the drought broke interest in climate change broke with it. A potential problem with that paper is the Bayesian updating – the selection of prior beliefs is quite important.

    Sinclair Davidson

    25 Jan 13 at 7:54 am

  749. I wonder why so many youngsters are happy to be “disengaged”?:

    The report says the share of 15 to 24-year-olds in full-time education or training rose from 69.5 per cent in 2009 to 73.4 per cent in 2012.

    But a closer analysis shows lingering problems with the number of 20 to 24-year-olds who are struggling to find their feet.

    In this age group, the proportion not fully engaged in education, training or work rose from 19.5 per cent in 2008 to 22.2 per cent in 2009, about the time of the GFC.

    This figure has not yet returned to pre-GFC levels, remaining stubbornly high at 21.8 per cent in 2010 and 22.5 per cent in 2011.

    The disengagement among those who had not completed year 12 was more than twice that of those who had done so.

    Oh, yeah, it’s that terrible $35-a-day dole — even more if you have a disability.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 8:05 am

  750. The penny drops with the ALP backbench

    As if that bunch of jelly backed cowards would act.

    In the past 5 years they have backed the corporate psychopath Rudd (until he finally got knifed by the AWU & its clients) and then backed the worst PM in the last 25 years.

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 8:09 am

  751. Hahaha. “Looks like the academy is finally getting a lesson in the costs of big government liberalism.”

    Academics for ObamaCare stunned to find the cost

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 8:21 am

  752. Comment on Small Dead Animals.

    The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U. S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 46 million people.

    Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U. S. Department of the Interior, asks us “Please Do Not Feed the Animals.” Their stated reason for the policy is because “The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.”

    Rudiau

    25 Jan 13 at 8:26 am

  753. What altitude is Davos at? Bob Carr was clearly suffering from lack of oxygen when interviewed by John Doyle (filling in for Fran the activist) on RN Breakfast.
    Bob said that Australia had wasted too much time “pandering to denialists” and needed to catch up to the rest of the world on climate change.
    Later in the segment Bob was lured into commenting on the Israel election, and couldn’t stop himself from saying that any further settlements on the west bank would jeopardise the two-state solution, and more. Nobody who indulges this fantasy seems to have noticed that the Palis got Gaza, and failed the test. There can be no two-state solution with those guys.

    blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 8:34 am

  754. Invasion Day? Sorry, this is wrong thinking, as the Chinese say. If only the left would use their polemical abilities for Good.
    The day is clearly an opportunity to celebrate (i) the first boat people, (ii) the first wave of immigration, which we’re all supposed to celebrate, not to mention (iii) the introduction of new cultures.
    All this Invasion Day twaddle is so insular!

    blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 8:38 am

  755. It’s beginning to look like everything Julia does goes peris-shaped.

    blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 8:39 am

  756. Washington city councilman walks out on council meeting because of citizen with CCW permit.

    Scott Dudley, Mayor, supports the Constitution and gives reasons. Great man.

    H/T SDA.

    Rudiau

    25 Jan 13 at 8:47 am

  757. I do wonder if the people of NT will elect Peris. Yesterday it was faux racism claims. Today smears.

    I can see Peris is McTiernan’s type. Once in parliament Labor & the love media will be claiming racism anytime anyone disagrees with her.

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 8:48 am

  758. Token, you can be done for thinking raaaaacist like that you know.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 8:53 am

  759. Max

    25 Jan 13 at 8:58 am

  760. Also, misogynist.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 8:58 am

  761. Token, I mean. Is misogynist. Also, racist.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 9:00 am

  762. Token, I mean. Is misogynist. Also, racist.

    I trust those descriptions are against all our records on Nanny Roxon’s proscription list.

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 9:05 am

  763. Indubitably he is. Token. On Invasion Day Eve ‘n all.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 9:07 am

  764. Proscription: (derived from First Nation Wog: proscriptio) is the public identification and official condemnation of enemies of the state.

    I do so like the menace in those words!

    Soon we’ll all get to love them and our children’s children will chant them at the beginning of each school day.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 9:11 am

  765. Now Lego is “racist”

    What is startling is that you need to be unbelievably ignorant of history to make that claim.

    Austria’s Turkish community said the model was based on Hagia Sophia mosque in Istanbul…

    What is the history of the HS?

    From the date of its dedication in 360 until 1453, it served as an Eastern Orthodox cathedral and seat of the Patriarchate of Constantinople,[1] except between 1204 and 1261, when it was converted to a Roman Catholic cathedral under the Latin Empire. The building was a mosque from 29 May 1453 until 1931, when it was secularized. It was opened as a museum on 1 February 1935

    What did the Turks do when they got their hands on Constantinople?

    In 1453, Constantinople was conquered by the Ottoman Turks under Sultan Mehmed II, who subsequently ordered the building converted into a mosque.[9] The bells, altar, iconostasis, and sacrificial vessels were removed and many of the mosaics were plastered over. Islamic features – such as the mihrab, minbar, and four minarets – were added while in the possession of the Ottomans.

    PS: so George Lucas ripped of the HS for Jabba’s palace.

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 9:11 am

  766. So Gingerella had to get rid of Crossin cause she was a Ruddite. Next in the batting order was Marion. But she went off the Mission a while back and turned into just another uppity mission brung up gin, even though they let her be Deputy Chief Minister for a while.

    So Ginger needed a tame one. Here’s an idea, let’s get Nova!

    She’s broken in, she’s tame, she’ll do what she’s told, be seen when we say she should be seen, not heard the rest of the time and speak when she’s spoken to and not otherwise. What could possibly go wrong? The misogynist racists won’t be able to say a word. Splendid ! Capital! Foolproof!

    Alison Anderson pointing out to the nation that the ALP are not friends of the blackfellas any more is one thing going wrong for a start. She’s dead right. Tracker Tilmouth reckoned they were allowed to mow the lawn surrounding the ALP station house, but not allowed on the veranda. Ali says they’re even allowed inside now, but only as domestics.

    The ALP are a bunch of grader drivers. Set up the silver bullet caravan and fuel trailer just far away enough from the camp so you can’t hear them blewin all night, but close enough for sneaking after dark, with a few green cans under the arm to trade for favours. Everyone’s happy. Usually.

    Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 9:21 am


  767. Proscription: (derived from First Nation Wog: proscriptio) is the public identification and official condemnation of enemies of the state.

    I do so like the menace in those words!

    Sounds awfully heteronormative to me.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 9:30 am

  768. Dot…David Tepper…Listen to him ironing out his investment strategy while also monkeying around with the adorable red head who seems in love with him.

    He could have easily taken her out back to his Maserati if he were not a colossus of morality and a wonderful family man.

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 9:46 am

  769. Cote de Bogan latest:

    Australian men arrested over Phuket shooting.

    Real class demographic getting to that place.

    I resemble that remark.

    You think it’s accurate then?

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 10:18 am

  770. PS: so George Lucas ripped of the HS for Jabba’s palace.

    Star Wars occurred a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. So obviously if they are similar then the HS was really a copy of the Jabba the Hutt’s palace and not the other way around :-)

    Chris

    25 Jan 13 at 10:19 am

  771. Chris just made a funny. Well I do declare! :)

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 10:22 am

  772. Tim Cook from Snapple deserves the size 10. The moron should never have released the Iphone 5 without further advances.

    Jobs is rolling in grave over what’s happened.

    Another 15 to 20% fall and it could become interesting.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 10:28 am

  773. You know who else deserves the size 10? You. Every time I see your new moniker the ad with that annoying man plays in my head.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 10:31 am

  774. Frank – I love your adds. Keep them coming.

    Can you do an extra long Tilesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss in your next one.

    I love the free market.

    Bear Necessities

    25 Jan 13 at 10:35 am

  775. Tim Cook from Snapple deserves the size 10. The moron should never have released the Iphone 5 without further advances.

    If they don’t do regular “new” releases people will buy other phones because the latest iPhone is too “old”. From a games perspective developers will want the latest CPUs in them too and they definitely don’t want to fall behind in that regard. How often do people actually use their smartphones as phones these days?

    As others have mentioned I think the smartphone that looks like an iphone may be at a bit of a dead end. Just fairly small incremental improvements now and its hard to charge a premium for that – thus the rumours about a much cheaper more plastic version of the iphone so they can compete on price.

    The biggest threat to the iphone may be something that doesn’t actually look like a smartphone – Google Glasses. Assuming they can get the augmented reality working half decently I can see them displacing hand held phones for a lot of people – especially if you’re someone who wears glasses anyway.

    Chris

    25 Jan 13 at 10:36 am

  776. That’s just obsequious, Bear N.

    Ban Frank Walker from the Cat

    25 Jan 13 at 10:37 am

  777. Bear N

    We here at the Cat (except for the retarded) also love the free market. But Frank is the most annoying douchebag on radio. And loving the free market doesn’t mean I have to like Frank. I despise the fuck.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 10:38 am

  778. Hey, how come JC can change his moniker but when I do it goes into moderation?

    Ban Frank Walker from the Cat

    25 Jan 13 at 10:40 am

  779. Hey, how come JC can change his moniker but when I do it goes into moderation??

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 10:41 am

  780. “So Ginger needed a tame one. Here’s an idea, let’s get Nova!

    She’s broken in, she’s tame, she’ll do what she’s told …”

    The danger remains that the politburo con job will succeed. I saw a NT News piece commenter write “Well done, Nova. Good choice. We need more cleanskins in politics.”

    Cleanskin? I think not.

    There are platoons of mindless dills who see an apparently pleasant demeanour with a nice smile who have no idea, and make no enquiry to discover, that Comrade Our Innocent Little Nova has been grunting and slobbering in the taxpayer trough, up to her elbows for years.

    The Quadrant article points out that in 2007 alone she was favoured with gummint contracts of $950,000 and $334,000 to swan around suggesting to aboriginal children that they should clean their teeth. The post-audit of her work was “scathing”.

    This wee innocent was cunning enough to track down other gummint contracts, as detailed here during this week, doing similar community organiser un-work.

    Her Peris Enterprises “web site” has vanished. It extolled her virtues as a quickish runner and also as a quickish runner. It didn’t detail her academic or work qualifications as a para-medico. She’s demonstrated several times this week she can barely hold a conversation, you know like, even with dopey Mellie/Kochie type newsreaders Grade II.

    She lives in Canberra, not Oodnagallaby or Julia Creek (I don’t think she’d much like living there, based on my last brief visit).

    I wonder did we also get to pay for her running about following her lovely dream for sports fame a few years ago? She flogged her medals to the National Museum in 2005 for $140,000.

    She can sniff out an easy quid alright – a senator pulls $190,000 a year, $3,700 per week for sitting on their clacker, indexed upwards ’til they die. Comrade Quite Chubby Macklin showed two weeks ago how easily one can treble a handsome public service salary with allowances and an unquestioning expenses approval. Comrade Slippery too.

    In Our Nova there is way less of the innocent, naive draftee of the scheming ALP than people would like to think. She’s worked the I’m-an-aborigine angles nicely for a part Dutch, part Filipino.

    I notice the tearfully grateful Our Nova managed to swiftly shake off her vulnerable girly self one day later to launch into (also part Dutch) Andrew Bolt for being a raaaaacist.

    I don’t much like what I see in her.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 10:43 am

  781. Chris

    the Iphone is getting the shit kicked out of it because other players have basically caught up and they are prepared to sell their wares much cheaper. So the reason to own one is no longer compelling.

    Every tech company in the world has to have a smartphone or it’s suite of products is under threat because the smartphone is the gateway to the other shit.

    The biggest threat to the iphone may be something that doesn’t actually look like a smartphone – Google Glasses. Assuming they can get the augmented reality working half decently I can see them displacing hand held phones for a lot of people – especially if you’re someone who wears glasses anyway.

    Are you doing drugs, or just another male who has given up on trying to find or keep a woman? Would you actually walk around with Google glasses. I’m sure geeks will buy them. However most of them are still virgins.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 10:44 am

  782. Hey, how come JC can change his moniker but when I do it goes into moderation??

    Because i nicely asked Sinc a couple of days ago on the open Fred and he must have allowed it.

    His dispensation only applies to men and not women Gab. Bad luck I’m afraid :-)

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 10:46 am

  783. So I am to be reminded of one of this earth’s most evil, axe-murdering child molesters* every time the Artist Formerly Known as JC comments at the Cat? Great. Just great.

    In solidarity with Dogs Against Frank Walker at 2.46am.

    *I hereby propagate a new rumour about the Arsehole of Advertisingland, whose shop I will torch if he doesn’t stop using my favorite airwaves to troll for bogans stupid enough to to give this prick money.

    TomCats Against Frank Walker

    25 Jan 13 at 10:47 am

  784. We’ll see about that! You crony capitalist stocktrading misogynist.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 10:47 am

  785. “Hey, how come JC can change his moniker but when I do it goes into moderation??”

    Oh Gabrielle – I recognised JC instantly there! His DNA was all over the last bit.

    I’m so pleased that whilst I’m doddering along I’m still nearly keeping up with you quick young ‘uns. :)

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 10:52 am

  786. …nicely for a part Dutch Danish, part Filipino.

    As Milhouse van Houten discovered some people care about that difference.

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 10:58 am

  787. Every tech company in the world has to have a smartphone or it’s suite of products is under threat because the smartphone is the gateway to the other shit.

    Mr Walker

    The Windows phone, Windows 8, are better products which look better and are more user friendly and less expensive.

    Apple is no longer “virus proof” in the general sense (nor were they, ever, truly 100% virus proof).

    To quote a dear old friend of Mr Dot, Esq., … “No longer do I have to suck the Apple cock…”

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 10:58 am

  788. Google Glasses. Assuming they can get the augmented reality working half decently I can see them displacing hand held phones for a lot of people – especially if you’re someone who wears glasses anyway.

    As someone who does wear glasses and who still nearly jumps out of his skin when the iPhone the company insisted I now have plays loud music, flashes and vibrates when a call or SMS rolls in – the idea of driving when this all happens leads one to suspect there will be carnage on the roads when our eyewear starts ringing.

    Myrrdin Seren

    25 Jan 13 at 10:59 am

  789. don’t forget Mick, Her husband was also employed by Peris Enterprises Pty Ltd.

    No wonder she is so chubby these days. Life on the Gravy Train is sweet business.

    Dan

    25 Jan 13 at 10:59 am

  790. My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    Any thoughts on a suitable punishment?

    Hanging

    Guillotine

    Firing squad

    Perhaps even stoning.

    The punishment of course shouldn’t be excessive.

    JC

    25 Jan 13 at 10:59 am

  791. Those poor penniless asylum boat people are being ripped off, oi tells ya.

    ASYLUM seekers say they have lost thousands of dollars, electronic goods and other possessions while in detention in Darwin

    Iranian Iraj Taghizadeh said Serco security staff took $1200, an Italian razor, laptop and camera from him and placed them in an unmarked blue bag when he was put in detention. When he was released with 521 others on temporary protection visas in December he had to dig through numerous blue bags to find his broken laptop, camera and wallet that was missing the cash.

    I;m gathering the “asylum seeker” in this case wasn’t carrying rial.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 11:00 am

  792. My protest against the Artist Formerly Known as JC is also trapped in the inSINCerator.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 11:01 am

  793. ” …nicely for a part Dutch Danish, part Filipino.

    As Milhouse van Houten discovered some people care about that difference.”

    Don’t reveal this to a soul Token – I have never, ever seen the Simpsons show.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 11:01 am

  794. My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    Hehe. Payback for all those mean practical jokes you played on her in the past.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 11:03 am

  795. and also employed some dude called Dion Devow who named his son Dante’ and daughter D’shontea.

    Dion is b’wana of his clan for sure!

    Dan

    25 Jan 13 at 11:04 am

  796. She should be given a medal, Frank.

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 11:04 am

  797. My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    Weren’t you saying earlier this week that you used it to tease her by turning on the tele and opening the curtains while she was sleeping?

    You think this is an accident? :)

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 11:04 am

  798. I have never, ever seen the Simpsons show.

    Michael, you have just gone up in my estimation.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 11:06 am

  799. My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    Any thoughts on a suitable punishment?

    Buy her a new ironing board cover?

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 11:07 am

  800. Barnados just appointed two Lezzos as Mothers of the Year. There’s another charity that never gets another cent from me.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 11:17 am

  801. Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 11:22 am

  802. Barnardos did something a long time ago that pissed me off.

    I think it was their donation gathering and expense ratio.

    Australian charities are not charities in the true sense of the word. They are money grubbing rent seekers always ready to cop a Government grant.

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 11:22 am

  803. “and also employed some dude called Dion Devow who named his son Dante’ and daughter D’shontea.”

    … and all of ‘em live in Canberra whilst doing vital and very valuable work in Banka Banka and Muckety NT. Every one of ‘em.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 11:23 am

  804. .

    25 Jan 13 at 11:24 am

  805. Are you doing drugs, or just another male who has given up on trying to find or keep a woman? Would you actually walk around with Google glasses. I’m sure geeks will buy them. However most of them are still virgins.

    Pre-iphone people said the same about smartphones – and there were smartphones prior to the iphone which as you say the geeks bought. But Apple made smartphones sexy and mainstream desirable- and the ipod integration was fundamental to its success.

    Once people realise what augmented reality integration can do they’ll be wanting google glasses type functionality as well – whether they contain a phone or just connect to one (can they be small enough at a cheap enough price if fully integrated?) is still up for debate though. Will have fewer cases of people walking into street poles looking down at their phones too :-)

    Chris

    25 Jan 13 at 11:27 am

  806. Dot

    I can of course understand the mistake. The phone was on the bed, on top of white bed sheets which she wanted to put through the washing machine. The contrast of a black phone would be extremely challenging to figure. Even the extra weight would be difficult.

    JC

    25 Jan 13 at 11:31 am

  807. Hell hath no revenge like a woman subjected to practical jokes.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 11:33 am

  808. “Barnados … Australian charities are not charities in the true sense of the word. They are money grubbing rent seekers always ready to cop a Government grant.”

    I shunted the Red Cross after I discovered who the CEO is and then looked down the list of other salaried important people at the ALP’s post-retirement pre-retirement holding yard.

    Tim Costello’s lot also got dumped when I heard of his fabulous salary, world citizen lifestyle and regular sortie’s into none-of-his-ministering-to-the-poor business such as Global Coldery, ooops – Hottery – sorry, no – Coldery Will Kill You.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 11:40 am

  809. From Tracey’s link, the human trash running the Lying Slapper’s disinformation office hates it when the lapdog media turns feral:

    Interest in Mr Hodges’ travels and work over the past year appeared to touch a sensitive nerve in the prime minister’s office with Ms Gillard’s media director John McTernan asking “Why are you trying to contact Tony Hodges?”

    “A man nobody has ever heard of, doing a job nobody knows what it is,” Mr McTernan said.

    “It is not a story, that’s all I am saying. My staff are not stories. My former staff for f…ing sure aren’t stories. I think it is ridiculous. I don’t want to keep that to myself.

    “Tony Hodges is not a story. Tony Hodges is a private citizen, an Australian working abroad.”

    The author, Gemma Jones, stands out because she is one of only a handful in the press gallery doing the job she’s paid to do.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 11:41 am

  810. “Hell hath no revenge like a woman subjected to practical jokes the simplest practical tests and failing dismally.”

    Fixed.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 11:46 am

  811. I still give to the Salvos even though there anti-booze and anti-gambling stance sickens me to my core. They do good work and their staff are salt of the earth.

    The fact is in a rampant welfare state like Australia you’re a dead set mug if you give to charity.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 11:49 am

  812. It begins

    The Prime Minister’s star candidate Nova Peris has hit out at “malicious” rumours circulating about her conduct while working for the Northern Territory’s Education Department.

    Journalists have been told of an investigation into how funds from one of Ms Peris’s education programs were used, although the ABC understands she was exonerated.

    In a statement, Ms Peris says she is not aware of any investigation into her behaviour, and was never questioned by the department, police or any other body.

    “I did not misuse departmental assets during my time at the Northern Territory Department of Education,” she said.

    Off to a great start!

    Dan

    25 Jan 13 at 11:54 am

  813. My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    JC,
    Its possible to recover an iPhone that’s wet with rice. If that doesn’t work you could consider an upgrade. Upgrading to a new iPhone not cheap though generally cheaper than upgrading to new wife.

    Rob

    25 Jan 13 at 11:56 am

  814. My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaaha. Well done, Wifey.

    Happy Australia Day everyone. We are off in a few hours for three days in the wilds, five star (so they say) in a C19th mansion, definitely not eco but maybe no internet either or flakey iphone at best. If he is wise Abbott,Abbott,Abbott should be holed up there as well far far away during riot time.

    This is my choice. Da Hairy Irish Ape believes that dey will run out of hot water and no’ting will work. Da door handles will come off and da chintz bed will sag in da middle. He likes big name hotels.

    But he looks on the bright side. I’ll end up lyin’ on top of you, he says wickedly.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    25 Jan 13 at 11:57 am

  815. More good news for Gillard and Hamish McSporran,

    THE Liberal Party is poised to win Bass in a landslide at the next federal election, amid signs of voter anger with Julia Gillard.

    The result has converted a 6.74per cent Liberal deficit at the 2010 election into a 26-point turnaround – a result that rivals the historic swing to the Liberals in the Bass byelection of 1975.

    While you might not have much time for ReachTEL polling, even if they are half right it will be a wipeout. I don’t think the national polls are even in the ballpark.

    H B Bear

    25 Jan 13 at 11:58 am

  816. We are off in a few hours for three days in the wilds, five star (so they say) in a C19th mansion,

    Good for you, Lizzie but I gave up camping a few years ago.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 12:03 pm

  817. Everyone knows women are capable of doing more than one job at a time.

    To make a mistake and put a phone through the washer suggests to me that J C’s wife is under stress.

    I believe a voucher for an expensive day spa would rectify the problem.

    ella

    25 Jan 13 at 12:06 pm

  818. Completely true, Ella and it is written as Rule #3 in the book A Happy Wife Means A Happy Life.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 12:11 pm

  819. I believe a voucher for an expensive day spa would rectify the problem.

    Err, could you really picture JC going to an expensive day spa?

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 12:12 pm

  820. JC could get a manicure while his wife desperately negotiates with Telstra for a replacement phone.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 12:13 pm

  821. Are you doing drugs, or just another male who has given up on trying to find or keep a woman? Would you actually walk around with Google glasses. I’m sure geeks will buy them. However most of them are still virgins.

    These are the glasses I think Google, Apple, Microsoft should invent. Then distributed be to flakey Labor voters so they can see the real policies of Labor and Greens.

    They Live. One of John Carpenter’s earliest films. Famous for the line “I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I’m all out of bubblegum”.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 12:28 pm

  822. JC could get a manicure while his wife desperately negotiates with Telstra for a replacement phone

    .

    Tiger, as I said above women are capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

    JC’s wife has the manicure and rings for a replacement phone at the same time.

    ella

    25 Jan 13 at 12:29 pm

  823. H B Bear gets it all wrong, predicting a “wipeout” for Labor in Bass, with Reachtel forecasting 60:40 2PP to the Libs. No, no, no, no, no. The correct intepretation is:


    Struggle for Labor in Bass: poll

    Apparently, you have to get to 20:80 2PP before it’s a wipeout for the ecofascist government information service.

    Don’t fuck around, Tony. Sell it.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 12:35 pm

  824. Sound familiar?

    A summer brawl has surfaced in Buenos Aires between the car washers’ industry and the Argentine Meteorological service that are blamed for their poor forecasts which scares customers from the outlets.

    …“In any case the owners of the car washing stations must understand that 2012 was the fourth rainiest year since 1900”, indicated Ciappesoni.

    In the letter the chamber complains that the “reiterated errors” of the Met Service which forecast rain, storms and hail which then do not occur only help “to scare clients” from our washing stations.

    “What the news airs is considered almost a ‘holy statement’ and sometimes there are whole programs dedicated to climate change and the weather, and whenever they forecast rain, it’s a ‘dry’ day for us”, complained Calama.

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 12:36 pm

  825. I believe a voucher for an expensive day spa would rectify the problem.

    A weekend in a gorgeous old country house with antique furniture and breakfast on the terrace with all of the other guests, with patrons expected to be on time and on good early morning behaviour, followed by relaxing strolls through the gardens. Women like this. Not all men are so thrilled with the whole deal.

    Some cute diamond ear-rings are your easier option, JC, if for some reason the super-dooper luxe day spa doesn’t cut it. Good sales on at jewellers right now.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    25 Jan 13 at 12:44 pm

  826. On “charity”. And “expensive day spas”.

    I must now go and perform an act of charity, several thousand dollars worth. Quite unnecessarily I say.

    One can sleep in a decent swag anywhere, on a hard surface in cold weather, even when it’s pithing down rain. One can sleep for 5 or 50 minutes on cue, in the driver’s seat waiting for the Goddess to finish work. One has slept on a backyard timber park bench at midnight, next to the blaring speakers, while the Goddess decided to dance on for a couple more hours with the poofy mate’s poofy mates (she’s an expert Latin dancer, spectacularly so, Assassination Tango grade).

    In summary, one sleeps the sleep of the innocent. Why woodjya need a multi squillion dollar new bed?

    Because “I caaarrrn’t sleep!” My response of “Don’t tell me, ring the gummint” didn’t work. I don’t think she got it.

    At the shop the clever lady gets her to test the sort of thing Our Julian Assange’s leaky army mate is enjoying in Leavenworth. Onto the next grade up, and up, and up in a thinly disguised re-run of the Princess and the Pea.

    “Now isn’t that last one just lovely compared to the industrial machinery hardwood pallett we tried at the beginning?” they coo back and forth to each other.

    The final and successful trick is the run-out special next to the cash register, a coupla thou more than the limousine one just decided upon.

    I’m now waiting for the Armourgard cash security van to collect me so I can make my charitable donation. I know the “fabulous new bed” will be added to the home tour for visitors for the next two months. I bet she leaves the price tag on.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 12:48 pm

  827. Some cute diamond ear-ings are your easier option. JC.

    Stay clear of the “one carrot” diamonds.

    ella

    25 Jan 13 at 12:51 pm

  828. Seems a lot of mucking around just to buy a new workbench Mick.

    Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 12:53 pm

  829. “A man nobody has ever heard of, doing a job nobody knows what it is,” Mr McTernan said.

    “It is not a story, that’s all I am saying. My staff are not stories. My former staff for f…ing sure aren’t stories. I think it is ridiculous. I don’t want to keep that to myself.

    McSporryn has quite a temper when people get above their raisings and look where they are not supposed to…

    Token

    25 Jan 13 at 12:54 pm


  830. The biggest threat to the iphone may be something that doesn’t actually look like a smartphone – Google Glasses. Assuming they can get the augmented reality working half decently I can see them displacing hand held phones for a lot of people – especially if you’re someone who wears glasses anyway.

    Are you doing drugs, or just another male who has given up on trying to find or keep a woman? Would you actually walk around with Google glasses. I’m sure geeks will buy them. However most of them are still virgins.

    The thing to remember about google is it monetized everything, and I mean everything, through advertising. I am actively reducing my use of google because of this little fact. Wearing glasses will give google an unbelievable amount of information about myself that it will use to convince advertisers that they should give it money. I don’t think so.

    Entropy

    25 Jan 13 at 12:59 pm

  831. Seems a lot of mucking around just to buy a new workbench Mick.

    If you want to really impress the mattress salesman, grade it on how it feels on your knees while your holding the bedhead one handed.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 1:01 pm

  832. Tint 6:48am
    Taa.
    Thank GOD for that!

    ***

    Truly, is there anything worse than incestuous misogyny?

    Okay, there’s racism. Criticising Obama ‘cos he’s useless (aka because he’s black). Do these morons not see the ineptitude of these shut-up-card carrying idiots?

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 1:03 pm

  833. Iphones can and do survive the washing machine. One of my friends put hers through, and it dried out.

    Then she dropped it, it survived. It even survived being run over by a small car. The screen was cracked but it still worked.

    Then it got wet again.

    And died. I reckon she should have held a funeral and a wake for the thing.

    nilk

    25 Jan 13 at 1:03 pm

  834. “Seems a lot of mucking around just to buy a new workbench Mick.”

    Well done Pickles, cracked me up.

    PS I should note that they do first class marketing to the targeted one of the pair, with “Oh look at your lovely long, long black hair! And your beautiful dark skin, no wrinkles, I’m jealous. Their YOUR nails? You do them yourself? Are you from Brazil?” It’s the female version of the blokes’ “Nice tits, grrrreat bum” with an added, unstated, “Ya lucky foreign bitch.” The Goddess has heard that forever yet it still works. Females!

    I wanted a new laptop.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 1:04 pm

  835. don’t forget to rotate the mattress Mick. Always rotate.

    Dan

    25 Jan 13 at 1:09 pm

  836. I still give to the Salvos even though there anti-booze and anti-gambling stance sickens me to my core. They do good work and their staff are salt of the earth.

    They certainly have the best ads.

    Word always was that many of their clientele ended up being referred to St Vinnies.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 1:13 pm

  837. Mick,

    A good saleswomen will put you on the the most expensive bed first, and go down from there. Every other bed in the shop will seems like a compromise.

    Think yourself lucky Mick, it could of been worse.

    ella

    25 Jan 13 at 1:13 pm

  838. Interest in Mr Hodges’ travels and work over the past year appeared to touch a sensitive nerve in the prime minister’s office with Ms Gillard’s media director John McTernan asking “Why are you trying to contact Tony Hodges?”

    “A man nobody has ever heard of, doing a job nobody knows what it is,” Mr McTernan said.

    It is not a story, that’s all I am saying. My staff are not stories. My former staff for f…ing sure aren’t stories. I think it is ridiculous. I don’t want to keep that to myself.

    “Tony Hodges is not a story. Tony Hodges is a private citizen, an Australian working abroad.”

    So it is a story, then.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 1:15 pm

  839. “Think yourself lucky Mick, it could of been worse.”

    Worse! I though they were offering me an entire small coastal hamlet, including the pub.

    Anyway ella, you’re a girl and I’m not listening to girls ever again.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 1:19 pm

  840. Glad you posted that CL.

    What an arsehole McTernan is. A complete fucking twat. You can see why Gillard got him in, he’s on the same level.

    harrys on the boat

    25 Jan 13 at 1:26 pm

  841. No sign of JC. Hmmm…must be reading an awfully long riot act to Wifey.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 1:31 pm

  842. Very interesting article on the cover of the local commie rag:

    Pew Environment Group is funding the Wilderness Society to target Col Barnett’s seat in the state election and to fund the anti Kimberley development nutcases.

    Pew made all their bloody money from extracting oil from tar sands!

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 1:32 pm

  843. The world capital of “climate change” hysteria, Australia has become a breeding ground for junk science in other disciplines as well, like studies designed to coerce governments on health policy:

    Earlier this week, the journal Pediatrics published a study which claimed that childhood asthma rates fell after the English smoking ban was introduced in 2007. But a closer examination suggests the claims have been puffed up – not that the media seemed to mind.
    The study concludes: ‘The implementation of smoke-free legislation in England was associated with an immediate 8.9 per cent reduction in hospitalisations for asthma along with a decrease of 3.4 per cent per year.’ A quick look at the personnel involved should immediately arouse suspicion. The lead author is listed as Christopher Millett, an Australian social scientist who has worked in ‘obesity prevention’ and assists Stanton Glantz’s campaign to get smoking out of the movies. Glantz himself – founder of Americans for Nonsmokers’ Rights and a veteran campaigner for smoking bans – is a co-author. The study should be seen as another entry in Glantz’s unenviable canon of junk science, and as a case study in the media’s role in creating panics and distorting policy.
    First, it is necessary to understand a few things about asthma. Although many people intuitively believe that there is a close relationship between smoking and asthma, this is not borne out by empirical evidence. As the British Medical Journal (BMJ) noted in 2005: ‘A broad consensus exists that in most Western countries the prevalence of asthma increased over the last four decades of the twentieth century.’ This huge rise in asthma rates is totally inconsistent with the belief that smoking causes or exacerbates asthma, since we all know smoking rates declined sharply over the same period.

    RTWT

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 1:38 pm

  844. Don’t throw out the big plastic cover the matress comes in Mick. Might come in handy with a gallon of olive oil. Virgin cold pressed and all that.

    Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 1:43 pm

  845. JC 10:59 am

    My wife just put my iPhone in the washing machine.

    Sorry, JC. My mum taught us all that it was OUR responsibility to ensure our pockets were empty and to ensure the dirty clothes were placed in the clothes basket for washing. She never checked pockets, she never ran around the house picking up our dirty washing (if it wasn’t in the basket it didn’t get washed!).

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 1:46 pm

  846. Any way ella you’re a girl and I’m not listening to girls ever again.

    How can I make Mick feel better?

    If you spend $1000 dollars on a bed and it lasts you for 10 years then that amounts to $100 a year.

    Women spend more than $100 a year on shoes and they don’t last ten years.

    In the bedding industry, Mick, the purchase of a bed by men is regarded as a “grudge purchase”. A good saleswomen already know you would prefer a laptop, so she addresses the women directly.

    By starting at the cheapest product and going up from there the salesperson gave you the advantage.

    You got away lightly.

    ella

    25 Jan 13 at 1:46 pm

  847. Follow-up to the last post: The rise of a pseudo-scientific links lobby.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 1:48 pm

  848. My staff are not stories. My former staff for f…ing sure aren’t stories. I think it is ridiculous.

    Oh yes they are, and we don’t care what you fecking think.

    Da Hairy Ape just arrived, two hours later than I had thought he would and just on time as he believed.

    Having some tasty smoked kippers and sourdough before we leave. They kept the Vikings going, rowing across oceans on them, so they will do us for the journey.

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    25 Jan 13 at 1:48 pm

  849. Earlier this week, the journal Pediatrics published a study which claimed that childhood asthma rates fell after the English smoking ban was introduced in 2007.

    really? And yet earlier this week we were assured asthma rate on the increase and the “cause” was junk food.

    <blockquote>A new study has found a possible link between moderate to high junk food consumption and an increased risk among children of developing asthma, eczema and certain childhood allergies.

    So which is it, fellas? Smoking or junk food? Or neither.

    Junk food? Junk science blurted out to justify those taxpayer funding dollars.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 1:48 pm

  850. You’ll spend a 1/3 of your life lying on it, so finding the right one is all important. A good mattress is essential too.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 1:49 pm

  851. LOL

    What would they check for, the qualifications for Fitting In with the ALP?

    Basis for blackmail?

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 1:58 pm

  852. P’raps that should have been bases for blackmail.

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 2:01 pm

  853. “How can I make Mick feel better?

    If you spend $1000 dollars on a bed and it lasts you for 10 years then that amounts to $100 a year.”

    Terrific. I’ve got to last another 60 years to make this profligate expenditure worthwile!

    Gabriellllle! Ella wants me to be reasonable and Pickles wants me to do things that will likely put my back out! Help!

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 2:04 pm

  854. Wivenhoe Dam will release 41,000 megalitres of water in anticipation of the possible 300-400 mm of rain expected to fall in SE Queensland as a result of the decay of ex TC Oswald.

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 2:06 pm

  855. Be reasonable, Mick.

    Find a good physiotherapist.

    ;)

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 2:07 pm

  856. THis is a better article on the dam releases in SE Qld.

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 2:11 pm

  857. Ella wants me to be reasonable and Pickles wants me to do things that will likely put my back out! Help!

    Poor Micky. An expensive mattress won’t have you with an out of place spinal column. Putting a back into its proper place sans subluxation costs a small fortune – never mind about a smallish hamlet plus pub, you’d be looking at a small country plus casino! The Goddess knows this, thinks ahead and knows what’s best for you.

    You ought to buy her something nice and frilly today as a ‘thank you’ pressie for her efforts.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 2:11 pm

  858. Mick, don’t ride one hand down like IT suggests. He’s a newly married man and is wont to suggest all manner of mischief. As for you, your days of bronc riding and other bushman’s carnival pursuits are over. Like me, once the head hits the pillow captain snooze steers the ship to sleepy bo bo land.

    Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:16 pm

  859. Gabrielllle! Ella wants me to be reasonable and Pickles wants me to do things that will likely put my back out! Help!

    Mick, take no notice of Tiger, you will get body impressions in the bed, and body impressions are not covered in the guarantee.

    ella

    25 Jan 13 at 2:17 pm

  860. Women spend more than $100 a year on shoes and they don’t last ten years.

    Gab spends that much a day on shoes.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 2:19 pm

  861. Blair has a photo of The Man Nobody’s Ever Heard Of … and more here, at his preening self-absorbed tumblr.

    LOL.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 2:19 pm

  862. Gees thanks kae and Gabrielle.

    I think I must now go back to my previously announced default position for today.

    Any way ella you’re a girl and I’m not listening to girls ever again.

    We’ll take delivery tomorrow and there will be no report on new bed sleepmakingness after that ‘cos I already knew I was going to sleep well tomorrow night anyway. :)

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 2:22 pm

  863. Just in time for the renewed interest in McTernan-scripted republic ‘debate,’ the ABC reports that there is suddenly ‘renewed interest’ in changing the flag!

    What we need, apparently, is a flag that comes truly from the people and represents who we really are. So who better to come up with an alternative?

    As the country gets ready to celebrate Australia Day this long weekend, there are renewed calls to replace the current flag.

    Academic John Blaxland from the Australian National University has come up with his own design, combining a number of elements relating to Australia’s history.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 2:28 pm

  864. Pickles 2:16 pm

    As a single woman who’s a little bit older than you I am very disappointed to read that comment.

    This means it’s over… no hope for me at all. By my age men have shut down.

    *Sigh*

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 2:29 pm

  865. Women spend more than $100 a year on shoes and they don’t last ten years.

    Some man, who shall remain nameless, spends even less than that amount on sneakers and then never throws them out, thirty years later. That’s just abusive in my book.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 2:30 pm

  866. God Bless the Irish.

    Kerry council calls for legalised drink driving.

    Councilmen in Kerry, southwest Ireland, passed a motion this week asking the government to create a permit that would allow isolated farmers to legally drink a few pints and then return home in their car, or on their tractor, without fear of being busted.

    Its backers say the measure is needed to combat an epidemic of boredom and depression on farms ever since Ireland imposed tough new blood-alcohol limits on drivers in 2011.

    But Justice Minister Alan Shatter shot down the proposal during a speech in parliament, calling it “grossly irresponsible”.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 2:30 pm

  867. Used to be macka packa. Now iggle piggle.

    Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:30 pm

  868. “Academic John Blaxland from the Australian National University has come up with his own design, combining a number of elements relating to Australia’s history.”

    … featuring dot paintings which are as uber-century old traditional aboriginal as Ernie Dingo’s invented “welcome to country smoking ceremony”.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 2:32 pm

  869. Further:

    Danny Healy-Rae, who owns a pub and comes from Kerry’s most famous and flamboyant political family, says farmers should be allowed to drive tipsy on their tractors because they don’t go fast enough to kill anyone.

    He said those drinking two to three pints at a pub should be issued a permit allowing them to drive home so long as they stay below 30mph (50km/h).

    He was one of five Kerry County Council members who voted for the motion on Monday night. Three others voted against, seven abstained and 12 council members didn’t show up. Their decision has no legal standing because the national government, not councils, sets policy on road safety.

    Healy-Rae – who like his politician father is nationally famous for wearing a cap everywhere and talking in rapid-fire local dialect easy to parody but hard to understand – said pub-loving farmers “are living in isolated rural areas where there’s no public transport of any kind. They end up at home looking at the four walls, night in and night out, because they don’t want to take the risk of losing their license.”

    He said the older generation provided the sociological fuel to Ireland’s tradition of pub-based music and “craic,” Irish slang for entertaining conversation.

    “All the wisdom and all the wit and all the culture that they had, the music and the singing, that’s all being lost to the younger generation,” Healy-Rae said. “These older people might as well be living in Japan and Jerusalem, because the younger generation don’t see them at all anymore.”

    Yet even in Kerry, many have dismissed the idea as both dangerous to public safety and impossible to enforce. And alcohol-abuse campaigners say Healy-Rae’s logic is twisted, since alcohol is a depressant and hardly a cure for the blues.

    Good on you, Danny.

    C.L.

    25 Jan 13 at 2:33 pm

  870. Virtual lifelong Age scribe Shaun Carney has liberated himself from the Fairfax asylum and one of his first outings at the Herald Sun as a political columnist is an excellent piece on the takeover of politics by spin doctors:

    The upshot of this constant campaigning is that we end up with actual, formal election campaigns in the five weeks between the election being called and when we get to vote – and during those periods, the parties go close to inadvertently satirising themselves.

    How else can one interpret the Prime Minister’s announcement halfway through the 2010 campaign that she had decided that for the remaining period before polling day the voters would see “the real Julia”?

    THAT left voters with the unsettling question: who exactly had they been watching run the country up until then?

    What’s most unsettling is that the formal campaign period, when the electorate is most focused on the political contest, is when the leaders and the parties go into a bizarre lockdown.

    The 2010 campaign saw it at its most extreme. Except for a short series of successful town hall-style meetings, Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott were kept away from individuals and situations that had not been vetted by minders.

    The fear of events moving off script or, heaven forbid, generating some sort of embarrassment, drove every decision.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 2:38 pm

  871. Pickles – I’m on leave right now.
    Speaking of bitty (or not!), guess what the subject was on Dr P(h)il?

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 2:38 pm

  872. actually recalling years and years ago when I read the Age I always thought Carney was a straight arrow. Good for him leaving that unclean toilet.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:40 pm

  873. since alcohol is a depressant and hardly a cure for the blues.

    Works for me!

    blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 2:42 pm

  874. Interest in Mr Hodges’ travels and work over the past year appeared to touch a sensitive nerve in the prime minister’s office with Ms Gillard’s media director John McTernan asking “Why are you trying to contact Tony Hodges?”

    “A man nobody has ever heard of, doing a job nobody knows what it is,” Mr McTernan said.

    “It is not a story, that’s all I am saying. My staff are not stories. My former staff for f…ing sure aren’t stories. I think it is ridiculous. I don’t want to keep that to myself.

    “Tony Hodges is not a story. Tony Hodges is a private citizen, an Australian working abroad.”

    So it is a story, then.

    Of course it’s a story. I’m surprised Hedley Thomas isn’t on it because this could really blow open.

    I’m a 100% sure that Hagus was in on it too.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:44 pm

  875. ” Women spend more than $100 a year on shoes and they don’t last ten years.

    Some man, who shall remain nameless, spends even less than that amount on sneakers and then never throws them out, thirty years later. That’s just abusive in my book.”

    Gabrielle, I have selflessly, with my own hands, fashioned – hang on, I’ll have a look – two and a half beautifully finished timber racks 1700 high to accommodate the shoes on open display. There are many others concealed, which invaded my area of the main wardrobe. They exist in epidemic numbers.

    Mine get a tiny little rack behind a door – a half dozen RMs, steel caps (2), leather thongs (2) and rubber thongs (2, both in quite elegant and stylish black and white). I tried to store my Size 12 surfing flippers there too but was denied.

    $100 a year??? The one camped here obviously doesn’t self identify as one of society’s cruelly underprivileged and most vulnerable.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 2:50 pm

  876. Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 2:50 pm

  877. Whoa. Dude.

    sdog

    25 Jan 13 at 2:52 pm

  878. Dear Micky

    What a lucky man you are! You get to use your tools in the grudge and show-off your expertise. A man that is good with his hands is a great find. A wife who allows that man to display his woodworking prowess is indeed a Goddess.

    two and a half beautifully finished timber racks 1700 high

    Only two? Has she cut back on shoe procurement for your benefit? Always thinking of you and your wallet, is your Goddess.

    You hit the jackpot with her, didn’t you?. You ought to show her your appreciation by gifting her a little something…something Sparkle-y and Expensive I think.

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 3:02 pm

  879. A couple of open threads back, several Cats expressed disbelief that that the incompetent bureaucracies charged with fighting bushfires no longer allow bush ladies to cook meals for their volunteer hubbies.

    Embrace your scepticism no longer:

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/goodwill-gesture-for-firies-sparks-up-homebaked-brouhaha-20130125-2db6c.html

    areff

    25 Jan 13 at 3:06 pm

  880. From Areff’s link:

    “We are very grateful to the community and their show of support. It certainly lifts the morale of firefighters.”

    “But we have to monitor their health and safety closely and that includes serving them food that has been prepared in a commercial kitchen.

    “We can’t take any risks no matter how well meaning [donated food as been prepared]“.

    So these fucking Nazis are saying they have no intention of changing their policy. It’s simple, you moronic arseholes: volunteers sign a waiver accepting and indemnifiying food prepared by volunteers.

    Most small towns run on volunteerism. The CFA runs on volunteerism. Destroy these traditions at your peril.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 3:20 pm

  881. Academic John Blaxland from the Australian National University has come up with his own design, combining a number of elements relating to Australia’s history.

    I’ve shat prettier things than that after a week on the sauce.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 3:26 pm

  882. “We are very grateful to the community and their show of support. It certainly lifts the morale of firefighters.”

    “But we have to monitor their health and safety closely and that includes serving them food that has been prepared in a commercial kitchen.

    “We can’t take any risks no matter how well meaning [donated food as been prepared]“.

    When I am President of this flyblown shitheap, the murder of bureaucrats will be compulsory.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 3:27 pm

  883. We can’t take any risks no matter how well meaning [donated food as been prepared]“.

    I cannot adequately express the utter contempt I have for these short-sighted moronic bureaucrats. Risk? What risk? How many firefighters have died from consuming food prepared by women who cook each and every day for their families?

    Gab

    25 Jan 13 at 3:38 pm

  884. Areff, notice how the zombie editors at Fairfax instinctively never open such genuine community stories for comment, even though there would be a flood of protest? Always protecting the left – in this case the Victorian Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE), which is the main public service trojan horse and paymaster for Greens activists. Of course, One-Term Ted will never touch these bureaucracies either, because he wants the left to love him.

    Tom

    25 Jan 13 at 3:38 pm

  885. Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 3:39 pm

  886. “When I am President of this flyblown shitheap, the murder of bureaucrats will be compulsory.”

    My vote’s in the bag.

    Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 3:48 pm

  887. My vote’s in the bag.

    Thanks Tracey, but my reign as President won’t involve any voting.

    That’s a waste of productive people’s time. Every 4 years there will be a free sausage sizzle and school fetes, we just won’t have all that electioneering bull crap.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 3:53 pm

  888. Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 3:56 pm

  889. So, after a day of swallowing barrow-loads of dust and smoke, the poor firefighters can’t handle the risk of ingesting a sandwich made with dry bread.
    The meals have to sourced from a “commercial kitchen”, eh? Follow the money – as usual.
    And when the commercial kitchen is overwhelmed with demand, the firefighters can starve, as per their experience during the Victorian bushfires.

    Keith

    25 Jan 13 at 3:56 pm

  890. “Fairfax Media contacted the department and was put through to CFA spokesman Gerard Scholten. “It’s not DSE or CFA here, we’re all in this together,” he said from Heyfield. …

    “It is an unfortunate set of circumstances and we owe an apology to that lady,” Mr Scholten said.

    CFA chief officer Euan Ferguson has apologised to Mrs Rajeswaran.”

    The previous reports here, areff, informed us that the CFA is now over-run with six figure head office public servants.

    It shows:

    “Well, look, it’s not my department that ruled on this, it’s the other department too you know. Anyway, if I say a sort of mumbled “Sorry” I would hope you will go away and not disturb prospects for my Very Important Senior Executive public service 2013 performance bonus. Do you want another photo of me? Did you get that down correctly? – Senior Media Liaison Public Affairs General Manager, all in capitals, yes.”

    “Unfortunate set of circumstances” – they all speak from the same bullship script. What sort of man speaks like that? They are such a mediocre collection of mealy mouthed, feeble little fellows.

    “Most small towns run on volunteerism. The CFA runs on volunteerism. Destroy these traditions at your peril.”

    Sadly Tom I say it’s all over – they’ve been at it little by little for a decade or more, like creek erosion, regulating all conventional spontaneous community effort, thus creating new officer management, public revenue and councillor self promotion opportunities.

    All the corporatised local councils have employed starry eyed young Diploma of Community Organiser graduates to be nice to those silly old ladies at the CWA until they die off, so their history can be quietly erased.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    25 Jan 13 at 3:57 pm

  891. areff
    Quadrant

    Well done.

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 3:57 pm

  892. “Look, only after about 6 o’clock in the evening. I try to go easy til’ nightfall.”

    Beautiful words, Tone, just beautiful.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 4:01 pm

  893. I’m relieved. I saw him drinking a shandy (!) during the last election campaign and felt a bit unnerved by that.

    Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 4:06 pm

  894. I’m relieved. I saw him drinking a shandy (!) during the last election campaign and felt a bit unnerved by that.

    Not a good look for hyper-masculine misogynist. That flagrant display cost him 6 seats at least.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 4:10 pm

  895. Who let Frank Walker in?

    Tal

    25 Jan 13 at 4:24 pm

  896. Gerard Henderson’s MediaWatch back on

    Mike of Marion

    25 Jan 13 at 4:26 pm

  897. On the drink driving thing, Jeremy clarkson wrote a column a while back suggesting that drik driving should be legal provided your vehicle is fitted with a flashing light and the driver does not exceed 15mph. Pedestrians and other drivers would be warned of their approach, and they would be going to slow to hurt themselves. He wrote that disobeying the laws would be punishable by death by machine gun.

    I think the idea has merit for those who live outside urban centers.

    brc

    25 Jan 13 at 4:27 pm

  898. lol Tal.

    Frank Walker has the gates to front of the Cat. You know that.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 4:31 pm

  899. oops .. messed that one up.. The keys to the front gates.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 4:31 pm

  900. Frank Walker has the gates to front of the Cat. You know that.

    This Frank Walker is too big for his britches, frankly.

    Ban Frank Walker from the Cat

    25 Jan 13 at 4:36 pm

  901. Follow-up to the last post: The rise of a pseudo-scientific links lobby.

    The problem is completely out of hand Tom. After a lengthy on-line discussion concerning marijuana consumption I spent the early morning reading and downloading some recent studies and they are so bloody confusing. But that doesn’t stop people making all sorts of proclamations on the all too often contradictory findings. For eg. A study released a few months ago from NZ found iq drops of 8 points in adulthood arising from heavy cannabis use in the teens and suggested that cannabis is neurotoxic. Study has already ready being challenged in a PNAS publication last week. The original claims of neurotoxicity don’t make sense because the effect is not seen in adulthood and there are also studies showing light cannabis use can increase iq and even cessation of heavy use appears to return cognition to good values. It’s a bloody mess and in a desperate scramble to provide policy advice the bods are all too often clutching at straws. Heavy use in teenage years is a serious problem but to then claim any cannabis use in adulthood is dangerous is torturing the data.

    And don’t get me started on the findings of Ioannis – bloody terrifying because these suggest widespread abuse of statistics across biomedicine.

    John H.

    25 Jan 13 at 4:39 pm

  902. John H, I recall hearing some guy on the radio saying the mull-mental link is bollocks because you can’t see a rise in the incidence of schitzo after the 60s. What’s you take?

    Pedro

    25 Jan 13 at 4:46 pm

  903. John H, I recall hearing some guy on the radio saying the mull-mental link is bollocks because you can’t see a rise in the incidence of schitzo after the 60s. What’s you take?

    Professor Wayne Hall from Qld has argued the same as have many others. But only a few days ago Hall argued on an ABC Science News item in support of the NZ findings and claimed neurotoxicity was present.

    I think there is an association with heavy teenage use but most bods argue it is precipitating an underlying condition, some studies suggest otherwise but the persistent failure to find increases in schizophrenia rates, and its remarkable stable rate across populations(1%) does raise serious qtns about the claim. However, cannabis smokers who develop schizophrenia do not show the same premorbid cognitive deficits seen in non-users who develop schizophrenia. And to get really confused, there are even studies showing pot smoking schizophrenics have much better preserved cognition over the years than non-smoking schizophrenics.

    John H.

    25 Jan 13 at 4:53 pm

  904. Wow

    CBS culture is too leftwing for the new management.

    Maybe something is going on behind the scenes. Let’s hope so. I’m told the new management of the news division is well aware of the liberal culture of the place — and doesn’t like it. I’m told they’re trying to make CBS News more balanced and less biased.

    Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-viewpoint/012313-641645-cbs-political-director-dickerson-crosses-the-line.htm#ixzz2IxotI5R5

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 4:54 pm

  905. Wow John, it’s a wonder drug!

    Pedro

    25 Jan 13 at 5:12 pm

  906. sdog,

    Whoa. Dude.

    I think I’ll stay with the Conch Fritters and Coconut Shrimp and Key Lime Pie.

    :)

    Septimus

    25 Jan 13 at 5:19 pm

  907. Wow John, it’s a wonder drug!

    Cannabidiol, the non-psychoactive c, has many potential benefits. THC does promote psychotic markers and CBD does inhibit psychotic markers, the problem now is that the modern strains, a direct result of prohibition, have created a much higher THC\CBD ratio. Sustained smoking though really screws with working memory, which is a THC mediated deficit. I suspect though that some people can overcome this because I have encountered some very intelligent potheads. There have been recent studies claiming that working memory capacity is a far superior measure of intelligence than iq studies. IQ analyses are too broad, they should be focusing on much more discrete cognitive behaviors. The best thing about pot: you hear music like you’ve never heard it before, as T.S. Eliot wrote: You are the music while the music lasts.

    John H.

    25 Jan 13 at 5:32 pm

  908. Can someone explain why hipsters are now sporting beards?

    You go to a hipster type area for a meal and the dickhead waiters all have these stupid fucking Ned Kelly beards.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 5:39 pm

  909. Pickles

    25 Jan 13 at 5:41 pm

  910. You go to a hipster type area for a meal and the dickhead waiters all have these stupid fucking Ned Kelly beards.

    It’s a sharia survival tactic, Frankie!

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 5:53 pm

  911. Rabz

    I just wanna grab one by the beard and not let go. They look like fucking idiots.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 5:57 pm

  912. During the Brisbane floods many people supplied food for the mud army doing the clean up and no one from Council or the State Government objected. In fact it was positively encouraged.
    Wifey went to work baking industrial quantities of savoury type muffins and along with my kids we distributed these to people up and down flood affected streets. My wife thought that Muffins in a paper cup would be easier for people to eat on the go compared to having to stop work, and wrestle with a napkin with a sausage sandwich.

    I think getting a touch of the runs from a suspect sandwich would be the least of anyones problems during a flood or fire emergency. According to the Food Safety Council of Australia there are over 5 million cases of food poisoning cases every year.
    This is more about “We are the State and the only ones allowed to look after your welfare”.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 6:02 pm

  913. Hey, remember that chopper that hit a crane in London?

    TWO Brits should have been inside the cabin of a crane when it was hit by a helicopter in London two days ago, but remarkably, they both slept in.

    Richard Moule and co-worker Nicki Biagioni were late for work – both had overslept for the first time in years – and missed death by minutes..

    Lucky Bastards.

    “My colleague and I were both supposed to be there at 7am, but we were both late,” Moule, a 31-year-old father of two told The Daily Mail.

    http://www.constructionindustrynews.net/storyvie
    w.asp?storyid=795111532&sectionsource=s0

    jumpnmcar

    25 Jan 13 at 6:03 pm

  914. They look like fucking idiots.

    Given their total lack of testosterone, I’m surprised they can even grow beards.

    They must get transfusions from their ‘women’folk…

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 6:04 pm

  915. both overslept? There must be a God.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:09 pm

  916. Given their total lack of testosterone, I’m surprised they can even grow beards.

    They must get transfusions from their ‘women’folk…

    Oh yea, they’re all pansy little betas with attitude too.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:10 pm

  917. Having a beard is so they can hide the pastie facial features of thier vegan lifestyle.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 6:10 pm

  918. You go to a hipster type area for a meal and the dickhead waiters all have these stupid fucking Ned Kelly beards.

    They’re not beards, they’re merkins.

    Infidel Tiger

    25 Jan 13 at 6:11 pm

  919. They’re not beards, they’re merkins.

    Mystery solved.

    Thanks, Tigger!

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 6:13 pm

  920. My standard response to one of these hipster waiters when they want to tell me the vegetarian specials on the menu: ” I didn’t fight my way top the top of the food chain just to eat lettuce”.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 6:14 pm

  921. lol

    That’s very funny splat. May I use it?

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:15 pm

  922. Media Watchdog is back on deck for 2013.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 6:18 pm

  923. As for new flag designs

    THEY MUST CONFORM TO GENERALLY ACCEPTED ART DESIGN PRINCIPLES

    THEY MUST NOT USE A GAUCHE, UGLY, SPORTING DESIGN

    THIS INCLUDES KANAGAROOS, OR EXCESSIVE OR MOSTLY GREEN AND GOLD (UNLESS DONE VERY TASTEFULLY AND CONFORMING WITH THE ABOVE AND ONLY FOR GREEN AND GOLD, NO EXCEPTIONS FOR IDIOTIC ANTHROPOMORPHIC OR OTHERWISE KANAGAROOS)

    THEY MUST NOT CONTAIN ANY REFERENCE TO THE POMS OR SIMILARLY BE KOWTOWING TO ABORIGINAL SUZERANITY WHICH NEVER EXISTED, ERGO, RED, YELLOW AND BLACK OUGHT TO BE AVOIDED, ALONG WITH BRITISH EMPIRE OR INDIGENOUS MOTIFS

    Thus, all of those flags put forward FAIL. The Eureka Flag actually passes the test off the bat. As it for being a commo/nazi thing – no. This is merely historical ignorance, the Eureka stockade was a cause celebre for liberalism.

    I’m not saying it MUST be a new flag – it simply makes the cut to actually picking amongst suitable designs.

    THUS SPOKE THE DESIGN NAZI

  924. Everyone know Homer has a blog.

    He’s a blockheaded and incoherent as ever. The idiot has a real hard on for Sinc because Sinc banned him from here because of his rank stupidity.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:19 pm

  925. Ugh…tried a new moniker (FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT’S GHOST) but I forgot about moderation…

    As for new flag designs

    THEY MUST CONFORM TO GENERALLY ACCEPTED ART DESIGN PRINCIPLES

    THEY MUST NOT USE A GAUCHE, UGLY, SPORTING DESIGN

    THIS INCLUDES KANAGAROOS, OR EXCESSIVE OR MOSTLY GREEN AND GOLD (UNLESS DONE VERY TASTEFULLY AND CONFORMING WITH THE ABOVE AND ONLY FOR GREEN AND GOLD, NO EXCEPTIONS FOR IDIOTIC ANTHROPOMORPHIC OR OTHERWISE KANAGAROOS)

    THEY MUST NOT CONTAIN ANY REFERENCE TO THE POMS OR SIMILARLY BE KOWTOWING TO ABORIGINAL SUZERANITY WHICH NEVER EXISTED, ERGO, RED, YELLOW AND BLACK OUGHT TO BE AVOIDED, ALONG WITH BRITISH EMPIRE OR INDIGENOUS MOTIFS

    Thus, all of those flags put forward FAIL. The Eureka Flag actually passes the test off the bat. As it for being a commo/nazi thing – no. This is merely historical ignorance, the Eureka stockade was a cause celebre for liberalism.

    I’m not saying it MUST be a new flag – it simply makes the cut to actually picking amongst suitable designs.

    THUS SPOKE THE DESIGN NAZI

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 6:19 pm

  926. That’s very funny splat. May I use it?

    You may Frank. I don’t recall where I heard it from but it stops most non meat eaters in thier tracks and a causes a certain amount of embarrassment from my wife when we eat out in a swanky restaurant.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 6:21 pm

  927. HOMER, THE MARKING MAVEN SEZ:

    He also loks at the social cost of finance. Read Noah Smith’s linked piece as well.

    Christ. What an unemployable idiot.

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 6:21 pm

  928. and a causes a certain amount of embarrassment from my wife when we eat out in a swanky restaurant.

    Always a good reason.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:28 pm

  929. Dot

    He’s like a pet rock in some ways. He spent years here at the cat and learnt next to nothing.

    I suggested that he ought to have his threads checked for diction and he deleted the comment. Nothing ever sinks in with him.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:30 pm

  930. Channel ten actually reporting on the ugliness that was last years oz day riot.

    Dan

    25 Jan 13 at 6:32 pm

  931. Channel ten actually reporting on the ugliness that was last years oz day riot.

    Wait till they report that the Lying Slapper, Hagus and his buddies were in on it.

    That’s a story dying to get the once over.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 6:35 pm

  932. So predictable.
    Young Aust of the year – a ‘refugee’
    Local Hero – ‘Indigenous Leader’ from Redfern

    Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 6:52 pm

  933. Update – Ita for Aust. of the Year.
    I can live with that. She seems to be genuine and effective in her role as Chair of the National Alzheimer’s group

    Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 6:53 pm

  934. Potemkin’s Village

    I can stand brute force… here

    Grigory Potemkin

    25 Jan 13 at 7:15 pm

  935. Today’s story in the Telegraph of a Magazine Queen’s account being ripped off mightily by a trusted friend to the tune of $250,000 (while she allegedly was a bit the worse for wear from substances) makes Ab Fab look less like satire and more like history with names changed.

    blogstrop

    25 Jan 13 at 7:53 pm

  936. My pick for Young Aust of the year.

    I can’t wait for him to replay this question to Swan when the circus resumes.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 7:53 pm

  937. Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 7:56 pm

  938. Even in Tasmania Labor is on the nose.

    Love the last question – 65% of respondents indicated that the Gillard government’s performance has made them less likely to vote Labor, only 15% more.

    Driftforge

    25 Jan 13 at 8:01 pm

  939. Even in Tasmania Labor is on the nose.

    Quick Julia you need to snap up this guy to sandbag your southern front.

    Tasmanian Aboriginal Michael Mansell

    He has impecible credentials:
    To gain international recognition for the cause of Tasmanian Aborigines, he established an alternative Aboriginal passport. In 1988 he secured official recognition for the passport from Gaddafi who declared it valid for travel to Libya.

    Splatacrobat

    25 Jan 13 at 8:26 pm

  940. To gain international recognition for the cause of Tasmanian Aborigines, he established an alternative Aboriginal passport

    What was it written on, wallaby skin parchment?

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 8:36 pm

  941. If he’s an Aboriginal then I’m the Pope.

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 8:40 pm

  942. the cause of Tasmanian Aborigines

    Ah yes – so they weren’t all ‘wiped out’ apparently…

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 8:57 pm

  943. Hey Joe how’s the phone?

    Tal

    25 Jan 13 at 9:13 pm

  944. Hey Joe how’s the phone?

    Sod that, how was the day spa?

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 9:15 pm

  945. Hey Joe how’s the phone?

    Dead, Tal. Iphone police report says : Death by drowning :-)

    I took my kid’s old 4, dumped the back up into it and it’s as good as the old one.

    Poor Wifey, she’s been sheepish all day.

    Frank Walker from National Tiles

    25 Jan 13 at 9:51 pm

  946. Today’s story in the Telegraph of a Magazine Queen’s account being ripped off mightily by a trusted friend to the tune of $250,000 (while she allegedly was a bit the worse for wear from substances) makes Ab Fab look less like satire and more like history with names changed.

    I shouldn’t laugh at this, but there you go.

    .

    25 Jan 13 at 10:00 pm

  947. Ahem – and teh day spa?

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 10:00 pm

  948. I shouldn’t laugh at this, but there you go.

    No, you should squire.

    We’ve just had a freshly minted Ozzie of da year who’s straight out of Ab Fab.

    Time for some Bolly Stollies!

    Rabz

    25 Jan 13 at 10:03 pm

  949. I could have sworn I read somewhere that Dick didn’t want a bar (no pun intended) of this overpopulation malarky.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/bindi-in-running-for-dick-smiths-nobel-peace-prize/story-fncyva0b-1226561828041

    Tracey

    25 Jan 13 at 10:11 pm

  950. Former High Court Judge Ian Callinan breaks his silence to give his opinion on Roxon’s legislation:

    It seems as if each year the Constitution and the cohesion of our Australian community are put at some new and entirely unnecessary risk. The dangers of the current one, of the introduction of a new law to criminalize speech which might cause offence to anyone, should not be underestimated. Even the imaginative powers of George Orwell would not have conceived of an administration that would dare to try to forbid every member of society from passing adverse comment upon any other member of it. The proposed law is such a silly one that it will turn everyone into offenders. A law of this kind fails the elementary test of rational, consistent, and worse, undiscriminating application. In consequence, the cases selected for prosecution will be exactly that, “selected”, that is to say, carefully chosen, under the influence or pressure of the most vociferous pressure groups. Every Australian with an ideal of democracy – and I hope that means most Australians – should do everything they lawfully can to oppose the introduction of this outrageous law.

    It is exceedingly rare for former justices to speak up, but then again, laws of such stupidity and overreach used to be rare as well.

    H/T Bolt

    Cold-Hands

    25 Jan 13 at 10:25 pm

  951. Hey, Rabz, sorry I couldn’t make the barbie, am on the move.

    The old man’s birthday (86th) is one reason, and I found a book in a military bookshop in Parramatta about the gear they wore in the Korean War. Right down to the underwear. He was rapt, and spent most of the afternoon with a magnifying glass looking at the photos and picking out insignias etc.

    One thing I noticed was that every single photo (there were hundreds of them) depicted a moonscape. Utterly desolate, absolutely nothing but dust or mud or snow.

    He explained that the Japanese destroyed every single thing as they were leaving. He said, if there was a a sapling, or a shrub, or an outhouse, they flattened it. The people were the poorest of the poor. They literally didn’t have a pot to piss in.

    He’s been back, and South Korea is just a marvel. North Korea is just like when he left. He still hates fish sauce and kimchi with a passion, though.

    As for Nova, it’s typical that Gillard picked someone with no political sense at all. In my experience, after 200 years of dealing with “gubbas”, many Aboriginal people have a very acute understanding of how government works. There is no shortage of such people in the NT, either.

    But, she didn’t use her ‘captains’ pick’ to choose anyone with demonstrated ability or a track record, because the consequences could only be embarrassing.

    Meanwhile, as someone upthread noted, Senator Nigel Scullion is out and about cooking magnificent food wherever he goes.

    johanna

    25 Jan 13 at 10:39 pm

  952. About this Peris Enterprises thing.

    Why did the government pay her a million dollars to use facilities and people to conduct health checks when the government already provided the health workers and clinics?

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 11:42 pm

  953. Rabz/Dot
    Sure the Mag Queen wasn’t Nene King?

    kae

    25 Jan 13 at 11:44 pm

  954. Sure the Mag Queen wasn’t Nene King?

    That organ of record, A Current Affair, has a video report.

    Cold-Hands

    25 Jan 13 at 11:59 pm

  955. “About this Peris Enterprises thing.

    Why did the government pay her a million dollars to use facilities and people to conduct health checks when the government already provided the health workers and clinics?”

    From “The Nova Peris medicine show” at Quadrant, by Roger Franklin, Editor:

    “Unfortunately things did not work out quite that well, as a scathing independent audit of the programme established:

    The centrally-driven approach to the Child Health Check Initiative meant that there was insufficient consideration of the needs of the people, systems and processes already operating in the NT … for many health services the checks were a disruption to normal clinic business and other services were sometimes suspended while the checks were carried out.

    This represented a significant opportunity cost as staff attention was diverted to conducting the checks, supporting visiting teams or working to overcome community scepticism and fear about the checks.

    Once again, a big song and dance. And, once again, for all the PM’s talk of remedying Indigenous neglect, nothing more tangible than symbolism – “tokenism” if you are inclined to be blunt. One more exercise in the theatre of the six o’clock sound-byte.

    Meanwhile, as the dollars flow from Canberra, black kids are out in the mulga and going deaf for lack of attention to simple ear infections. Lofty words, millions spent and very little to show for any of it.

    Despite what her critics are saying, when she arrives at Parliament House, Peris might just fit right in.”

    Once upon a time a lousy reference from a previous employer meant one did not get the job.

    In this case the very same employer is ignoring unequivocal advice commissioned by it and offering a promotion to one of the very top jobs!

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    26 Jan 13 at 12:05 am

  956. JC vindicated:

    A leading health academic has called for fat people to be ‘shamed and beat upon socially’ in order to halt the obesity crisis.

    In a controversial article, Daniel Callahan, the 82-year-old president emeritus of The Hastings Center a New York think-tank specializing in health policy ethics, calls for increased stigmatization of obese people to try spur weight-loss across America.

    The senior research scholar says fat people should be treated like smokers who have become increasingly demonized in recent years and thus ‘nudged’ by negative attitudes of those around them into giving up the unhealthy habit.

    The Cat is always on the cutting edge. Always.

    sdog

    26 Jan 13 at 12:10 am

  957. Yes, Mick.
    That’s what I meant. Why was she paid to do something using facilities and staff already doing the job and paid for by the government?
    The system was overloaded with her promotion of health checks because there was no provision for the additional load.
    What on earth did the million or so pay for? It certainly wasn’t for health professionals to provide the service to the additional people brought in for health checks.

    kae

    26 Jan 13 at 12:11 am

  958. sdog, is JC going to get paid in carbon credits? Or does the obesity pandemic demand we unleash the genius of the market? Presumably this is a direct, prophetic reference to JC.

    wreckage

    26 Jan 13 at 12:25 am

  959. I reckon it’s up to JC, wreckage. It’s obvious that he’s the real architect of this new policy. All that time he spent in New York … he probably met this academic at a party and expounded on his views, and the dude just totally picked it up and ran with it.

    Go JC!

    sdog

    26 Jan 13 at 12:32 am

  960. “Why was she paid to do something using facilities and staff already doing the job and paid for by the government? … there was no provision for the additional load.

    What on earth did the million or so pay for?”

    A departmental head doing something to earn his bloated salary would call in the manager who ordered the extra work to make his case as to why he should not be sacked by interview’s end.

    They treat their authority to spend my money for no good purpose as applause.

    Mick Gold Coast QLD

    26 Jan 13 at 12:44 am

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