Wednesday Forum: January 23, 2013

This entry was posted in Open Forum. Bookmark the permalink.

960 Responses to Wednesday Forum: January 23, 2013

1 2 3 4
  1. Jarrah

    No-one actually cares who’s first.

  2. I care that a new thread begins the moment i finally get around to commenting on the previous thread, not just once, but four times!

  3. JC

    Lets begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today

  4. nic

    Let me be the first to say that Gillard is an idiot.

  5. sdog

    Let me be the first to say that Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure. SCOAMF.

  6. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Let me be the second to say that Gillard is an idiot; and the first to say, contrary to sdog’s view, that the Boy King is succeeding admirably in what He was sent out by His handlers to do.

  7. sdog

    Yes Mick. But for America, as opposed to his handlers, Obama is a SCOAMF.

  8. JC

    Ya know Davos used to be interesting in terms of what came out and some of the discourse was pretty enlightening. Now the ‘vironmentals have fucked it beyond recognition.

    Just look at this disgusting crap and despair.

    An unprecedented $14trn (£8.8trn) greening of the global economy is the only way to ensure long-term sustainable growth, according to a stark warning delivered to political and business leaders as they descended on the World Economic Forum in Davos yesterday.

    Only a sustained and dramatic shift to infrastructure and industrial practices using low-carbon technology can save the world and its economy from devastating global warming, according to a Davos-commissioned alliance led by the former Mexican President, Felipe Calderon, in the most dramatic call so far to fight climate change on business grounds.

  9. sdog

    Also, I was fifth. Do I get a ribbon for that? If not, I imagine I might have to sue someone.

  10. entropy

    Of course all that money has to go to improving the ‘nvirmnt in developing countries. Countries like Mexico in fact. And former Presidents are just the people with enough time on their hands to make sure its done properly.

  11. sdog

    When Ben Folds – also of NC and Australia, I might add, a rare and wonderous combination – decides to interpret a typical American rap song, the results are beautiful.

    Bitches Ain’t Shit (do I have to mention it’s NSFW?)

  12. Cold-Hands

    I’m offended that I’m not in the top ten. Whom do I sue?

  13. JC

    Ladies and gentlemen

    I give you the inside scoop at the Globe and Mail. This is what happens when a idiot hires other idiots to run a newspaper.

    A “culture of bullying, nepotism and incompetence”: insiders from Graeme Wood’s philanthropic journalism start-up The Global Mail talk to Crikey about what went so wrong so quickly.

    Many are especially aggrieved by the treatment dished out to 29-year-old Hill, whose Mid-East post was made redundant less than two weeks after having brain surgery to remove a tumour. Sharona Coutts, one of the staffers removed in a pre-Christmas purge, said: “I don’t think there’s any justification for the way they treated Jess Hill. It’s a scandal.”

    Monica Attard got the boot and then look at what happened.

    nsiders who spoke to Crikey agree Attard was not a perfect editor. While her journalistic record was formidable, the ABC veteran had never managed a large team and was a newcomer to online media.

    Still, most staffers were dismayed when she was removed as editor less than three months after the site was launched. The coup, insiders say, was led by CEO Jane Nicholls (a former People magazine editor) and approved by Wood. Attard declined to comment when contacted by Crikey.

    “The way they knifed her was so brutal and so lacking in due process that a lot of us never recovered from that,” one former reporter said. “There was such a lack of trust.”

    Alarm bells, however, really started screeching in June when Nicholls announced via email that Lauren Martin, the site’s former copy editor, would take over as editor. The job was never advertised, quashing many staffers’ hopes that a world-class editor with extensive online experience would be hired.

    “I thought, ‘this is a disaster — she is not qualified’,” Hill said. “I was amazed that with so much journalistic talent on the market in Australia this job had just been gifted to someone whose prior career highlight was editing the Martha’s Vineyard Gazette.” The Gazette, servicing the US resort island of Martha’s Vineyard, has a weekly circulation of around 8500.

    Staffers were also alarmed because Martin is married to Mike Seccombe, the site’s business and politics writer. As Crikey has documented extensively, it’s far from the only personal entanglement among senior staffers. Nicholls, the CEO, is married to national affairs correspondent Bernard Lagan. Nick Olle, the site’s former Latin America correspondent now based in Sydney, is Graeme Wood’s stepson. Sam Bungey, hired as deputy editor in August, had worked with Martin and Seccombe at the Vineyard Gazette. Photography director Mike Bowers — described independently by several insiders as a volatile and influential figure in the organisation — is close friends with Seccombe and Lagan from their days together at The Sydney Morning Herald. Board member Brooke Twyford, who conducted the review that led to the December sackings, worked with Nicholls at Time Inc in the US.

    “A building full of married couples and old friends in the late stages of their careers doesn’t exactly equate to a visionary tinderbox.”

    read it here.

  14. JC

    Lol

    It’s depressing,” said one journalist who left late last year. “It makes me really angry. It was a great opportunity for someone to do something new and different. Instead we ended up with a bunch of refugees from 1990s Fairfax … The dream of what it was going to be ended long ago.”

  15. Did anyone else notice something horribly creepy about the inauguration?

  16. JC

    Hey Monster may be safe.

    Extra Pounds Mean Lower Chance of Death

    A government study shows that people who are overweight are significantly less likely to die in any given period than people of normal weight. WSJ Health Journal columnist Melinda Beck joins Lunch Break with details.

    http://live.wsj.com/video/extra-pounds-mean-lower-chance-of-death/454EF522-22FD-44DF-9756-7B610CAF3202.html?mod=WSJ_article_outbrain&obref=obnetwork#!454EF522-22FD-44DF-9756-7B610CAF3202

    No, no no. Just kidding. Just a few pounds is fine

  17. No-one actually cares who’s first.

    Good because I have never been first.

  18. Tom

    As forecast, Gillard has started an ALP civil war over her decision to impose a Senate candidate on the Northern Territory branch:

    JULIA Gillard has risked a backlash from Labor members and stoked internal divisions after moving to dump long-serving senator Trish Crossin and install Olympian Nova Peris as the candidate to become the party’s first indigenous federal member.
    The Prime Minister said yesterday she had made a “captain’s pick” by inviting Ms Peris to join the ALP and seek preselection for the Senate for the Northern Territory. “I have made the decision, and that’s it,” she said….
    …The national executive is today expected to sign off on Ms Peris’s admission to the party and waive rules preventing her preselection. Next week, it is expected to meet to centrally preselect Ms Peris, who is not yet an ALP member, as the party’s No 1 Senate candidate in the Northern Territory.
    “I believe Nova will make a great contribution in the federal parliament, for the Labor Party, for the Northern Territory and for the nation,” Ms Gillard said, standing alongside the 41-year-old Ms Peris in Canberra.
    Ms Gillard’s decision to impose Ms Peris vetoed a planned preselection ballot between Senator Crossin and another indigenous politician, the former NT Labor deputy chief minister Marion Scrymgour, a critic of the federal intervention in indigenous communities who, sources said, was unlikely to win the ballot.
    Internal critics of the Prime Minister described the decision as “ill-judged” and a reaction to the backlash against her decision to prefer Bob Carr’s nomination for the Senate over indigenous ALP member Warren Mundine when NSW senator Mark Arbib quit last year.

    Here’s the idiocy of Gillard’s decision: Peris is from Darwin; remote tribal Aborigines swung last year’s NT election for the CLP because they had been ignored by the Labor territory government in Darwin and rebelled. Gillard now looks like she is disenfranchising tribal Aborigines again as well as pissing off the Darwin ALP machine (Crossin used to be the local Trades Hall boss).

    But there’s more: Crossin is a Rudd supporter and wanted Gillard knocked off last year.

  19. C.L.

    Australia, real life:

    Mr O’Farrell has asked the NSW parliament’s law and justice committee to examine whether anti-discrimination laws dealing with complaints about serious racial vilification constitute “a realistic test” and have kept up with public expectations… Mr O’Farrell has noted that there has not been a successful criminal prosecution since the laws came into operation in 1989…

    Bolt asked why Mr O’Farrell didn’t simply “set a quota of how many racists he wants hauled before the courts?”

    Atlas Shrugged:

    “Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against – then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

    Quoted from Roger Kimball’s lastest post:

    Ayn Rand and the criminalization of everyday life.

    An excerpt from the post:

    I’ve found that as I get older I become more and more libertarian, which I suppose means in part that I am more and more sympathetic to John Galt. Why? I’m sure there are several reasons. One is the increasing bureaucratization of life in this country, the progress of what Tocqueville called “Democratic Despotism,” i.e., the insidious proliferation of rules and regulations (and their concomitant rulers and regulators) that we’re told are being put in place for the commonweal but in fact are really put in place to squelch individual liberty and solidify state control over our lives.

    Examples are too numerous to linger over: imagine a country in which legislators tell you can no longer buy incandescent light bulbs but must henceforth purchase ones that contain a toxic substance and give off a sepulchral, Eastern-European-under-Communism sort of grimy light. Imagine a country in which other legislators (or perhaps they’re the same ones) are proposing to fit all new cars with a “black box” that will record where you’ve been, how fast you got there, and perhaps even what you had to drink before you got behind the wheel.

    Amazing that we put up with it, no?

    And this is the proverbial tip of the iceberg.

  20. Tom

    Green mouthbreathers are rejoicing because the electricity tax has helped push the non-mining economy into recession, caused tax revenue to dive and underlined Labor’s recklessness and incompetence with money:

    CARBON emissions from the electricity sector have dived in the first six months under the carbon tax, with much greater use of renewable energy and cutbacks in consumption.

    While the government believes the 8.6 per cent fall in carbon emissions shows its policies are working, it also means it will collect less from the tax than the $4 billion it anticipated this year.

    The drop in revenue comes after the minerals resource rent tax, forecast to raise $2bn this year, failed to raise any revenue from the big three miners in the first six months of the year.

    Total emissions from the electricity sector in the December half were 7.5 million tonnes lower than in the same half of 2011.

    The government cautions that a big abatement task remains, cutting total emissions by 33 million tonnes from 2011 levels by 2020. The fall in electricity demand was not anticipated by the Australian Energy Market Operator and is unlikely to have been included in Treasury’s budget forecasts.

    Tubbsy Milne has wrecked the Tasmanian economy and won’t rest until the mainland economy is a basket case, too.

  21. Tom

    Turns out the thug up on charges over the Sydney muslim riot is a welfare cheat:

    WHILE the taxpayer supports accused rioter Omar Halaby, he spruiks about terrorism and illegal drugs on his Facebook page – and even does the odd day’s work on a construction site, despite receiving a disability pension.

    Now it is understood Community Services Minister Jenny Macklin will review the 19-year-old’s case after he bragged on the social network site about being employed.

    The Padstow man, who was one of seven people charged for his role in last September’s Muslim riot in the CBD, claims to have learning and physical disabilities from a past football injury that prevent him gaining employment.

    But The Daily Telegraph can reveal that, while Halaby is collecting a $200-a- week pension, he works as a sub-contractor on a construction site.

  22. Tom

    The Gillard rabble puts an ex-union thug in charge of telecommunications — yeah, that went well…

    FOUR months after claiming he was so powerful he could force telco bosses to wear red underpants on their heads to win the bid for the mobile phone network space, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has been left red-faced.

    Two of the three main telcos have pulled out or expressed serious concerns over the $3 billion-plus sale of digital spectrum – trumpeted by Mr Conroy as the “waterfront property” of the mobile phone industry.

    Supporting the next generation of 4G mobile phones, the spectrum was also considered a key revenue raiser for the cash-strapped Gillard government under its now-abandoned budget surplus.

    In September, Senator Conroy told a conference in New York telecommunications regulation was a federal matter and he was in charge.

    “If I say to everyone in this room: ‘If you want to bid next week in our spectrum auction, you’d better wear red underpants on your head’, I’ve got some news for you. You’ll be wearing them on your head. I have unfettered legal power,” he said.

    Spectrum bidders must register by tomorrow to remain in the hunt – but they can still pull out before the auction in April.

    Communication analysts yesterday expressed concerns about a lack of competition amid industry fears a high sale price may pass costs on to consumers or restrict investment in 4G technology.

  23. Super D

    The installation of Nova Peris as lead senate candidate must be applauded on the grounds that she is:
    1. Not a union hack
    2. Not a party machine person
    3. Not a former staffer

    It really is remarkable that a person without any of these “key Labor values” would be nominated to a safe slot in the senate.

    Without meaning to be offensive to Ms Peris I’m not sure what she brings to the table aside from her Aboriginality. I think we should be thankful that we can identify her as Aboriginal ourselves. There are no doubt many self-identifying Aboroginals of the left who would love to have been the first Aboriginal Labor Senator. Indeed I wonder if the PM was provided with a colour chart of potential candidates, Peris seems a name out of left field though I suppose most of the self identifying crowd are found in the inner suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne as far a walkabout from their coloured relatives as they can get.

    Now this will no doubt be trumpeted as a masterstroke by Gillard by the capable women of the press gallery and the girly men they work with. In one sense it is. Gillard will be remembered as the Labor PM who made room for the party’s first Aboriginal Senator. This is one aspect of her legacy that can never be taken from her. Long after the mining tax and carbon tax are gone, fair work is legislated into history Gillard will still have this to her name.

    But how will it work out? Peris is the Captain’s pick. What happens when the captain moves on? Well one certainty is that Peris will not hold top billing for a second term. She doesn’t have the Labor pedigree, let alone the numbers. So we may find a situation where Gillard is gone yet Peris remains, unloved by Labor as nothing more than the legacy of a failed PM. Should the senate numbers hang on a vote this could really be quite useful. Indeed what’s to stop Peris sitting as an independent and voting with a coalition government in exchange for a legacy of herownand not just as a footnote in the Gillard memoirs.

    Could it be that the latest Gillard masterstroke is just as masterful as all those that have gone before?

  24. dover_beach

    Freezing week in New York. Currently -7 C with every day this week forecast below 0 C. Low forecast this evening, -11 C. I believe Al Gore has just flown in.

  25. 2dogs

    Re the BOF and NSW racial vilification laws, all he is calling for at this stage is an inquiry. He can still jump any way with this, e.g. he might be looking to repeal them. Don’t prejudge him on an interpretation of what he has said so far.

    Ask yourself this: what would an honest, apolitical inquiry into the questions he has asked actually come back with?

  26. face ache

    What are the odds that Peris will change her mind?

  27. Geoffff, that was one of the saddest columns I have read in years.

  28. Dan

    I’d give odds of 6-1. She didn’t handle the question of her ALP membership too well. If the press hounds her, likely she will drop out.

  29. Dan, “If the press hounds her…”
    Guess what’s not going to happen?
    That’s right, Gillard will be lauded to the heavens for her great negotiating skills.

  30. Blogstrop

    Oh, yeah, we’ve seen a lot of hounding since 2007. Of the Opposition.

  31. Blogstrop

    Belmont Club has a post on the Algerian operation.
    Among the comments, charles at 8 says that google has shut down the Gates of Vienna blog.
    Link

  32. nilk

    Yeah, Blogstrop, but Gates has moved. The Baron saw it coming.

    :)

  33. johninoxley

    I’m last for the moment. Do I get a ribbon for participation from the luvvies so my feelings arn’t hurt.

  34. Rafe

    “As forecast, Gillard has started an ALP civil war over her decision to impose a Senate candidate on the Northern Territory branch”

    On the radio last night it may have been Bolt who said that all the time spent talking about whether Abbott is or is not a misogynist is time not spent talking about the real issues like the economy and the quality of governance etc – “and we just spent an hour on Abbott…”

    Now we will all be talking about Nova instead of the real issues.

  35. Tintarella di Luna

    TLS is making a speech, I wonder if she’ll address what plans are in place to repay the debt or will she be still channeling the drunken sailor?

    Does the first will be last work here?

  36. nilk

    Wow. When the First “Lady” isn’t fond of you she really shows it.

    Gab, from the Old Fred. I looked at that little snippet, and I’ve been a parent too long – the First Wookie has her elbow on the table. That’s a hanging offence in my household.

  37. dianeh

    I agree with Rafe.

    It is something the Coallition needs to take into account, and highlight. Quickly address it (sexism, misogyny, racism etc) and then talk about the economy, carbon tax, deficit etc….

    It might even be worth highlighting during press conferences that is what Gillard is doing. “The PM raises this issue to avoid the issue of ……”.

    Attack her for it, then go to important issues. I would have publicly called her out for her ‘misogynist lies’ immediately.

  38. Tom

    PM’s fake feminism is man made

    Perhaps the brutal political realm is no place for nuanced debates about men and women. Presumably, that is how Gillard and her fellow gender warriors such as Tanya Plibersek and Nicola Roxon justify their almost daily determination to portray Abbott, the happily married man with three confident daughters, as a woman-hating ogre. But if we accept the premise that it is just politics, then don’t we also need to accept the logical next step — that these Labor women have chosen to balance a fraudulent feminist chip on their shoulder whenever it suits their political purpose?

    RTWT

  39. Max

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/hurry-up-and-die-japans-deputy-pm-tells-old-folk-20130123-2d5uf.html

    Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

  40. Token

    She didn’t handle the question of her ALP membership too well. If the press hounds her, likely she will drop out.

    No, Peris did not. If Gillard was not there next to her she would’ve been eaten live by the press over that answer.

  41. Thumbnail

    I wonder if Peris has read the Olympic Creed:

    The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win but to take part, just as the most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.

    It seems like she has abandoned the core principles of Olympic values by having her opponents kneecapped and taken out of the competition (preselection) rather than battle properly for the priviledge of Senate.

  42. Token

    Now we will all be talking about Nova instead of the real issues.

    Reading this article from the Oz, it is clear someone in the Coalition understands and is not missing the obvious opportunity:

    LABOR has hit the panic button by dumping long-serving senator Trish Crossin, Coalition sources say.

    “They’ve exposed all their fears,” one opposition strategist said yesterday.

    “Not only are they afraid of losing their Senate spot in the Northern Territory. They are desperate to shore up their numbers because they fear losing other Senate places to the Greens.”

    Seems like Christian Kerr intends to work this year. 2 good articles in 2 days.

  43. Token

    Worst government everrrrrrrr…..

    The Cabinet Ministers who cut their teeth in ambulance chasing law firms and seem to believe their job is to create more “rights” for those same firms to use to get rich have been able to open another revenue stream:

    A GROUP of Australian lawyers is preparing to sue the federal government on behalf of as many as 48 Indonesian youths who were held in adult prisons after being arrested for crewing asylum boats.

    The action has the support of Indonesia’s human rights commission, Komnas HAM, the child protection commission and House of Representatives commission responsible for foreign affairs and defence. The planned civil action will seek compensation, so far unspecified, and a formal apology from the Australian government to the 48 youngsters. They were identified by an Australian Human Rights Commission report last July as having been aged under 18 yet charged and then held in adult prisons for an average of more than six months before being released without conviction.

    Recap: This amoral government’s unwinding of the border policies has:

    1. Killed 1,000 people,
    2. Lead to a flood of at least 30,000 illegal arrivals, which the people in non-luvvie suburbs are left to deal with
    3. it also has opened the country to an endless string of law cases on the basis of the new “rights” which have been infringed.

  44. Entropy


    Re the BOF and NSW racial vilification laws, all he is calling for at this stage is an inquiry. He can still jump any way with this, e.g. he might be looking to repeal them. Don’t prejudge him on an interpretation of what he has said so far.

    Ask yourself this: what would an honest, apolitical inquiry into the questions he has asked actually come back with?

    2dogs
    23 Jan 13 at 6:29 am

    That’s not how government works, 2Dogs.

  45. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “No, Peris did not. If Gillard was not there next to her she would’ve been eaten live by the press over that answer.”

    I suspect this cunning stunt by Comrade the Lying Slapper may just turn to porridge, for the reason mentioned above and because she’s shafted one of their own, again.

    I wouldn’t bet on the bogan’s newest bestie being “eaten alive by the press” – it will be all “lovely Nova, she’s a mummy you know” for a bit but the revenge of the party members and of the local aboriginal activists will play out over time.

    Further, Missy Nova may well have under-estimated the nasty nature of the game and over-estimated her ability to handle it. From what I read she’s had no background in politics, just a lot of applause years ago for running and jumping and stuff.

  46. Rabz

    Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    Unfriggingbelievable.

  47. Bear Necessities

    Re Nova Peris

    You get the feeling that the original idea came from the inner city labor members (e.g. Albanese, Plibersek etc) to shore up their vote in their electorates. But wouldn’t of been easier to get the aboriginal challenger to Crossin in the preselection to be the candidate? But Nova is known on the eastern seaboard that is why she got the gig. Spin over substance thrown in with backstabbing confirms the personality of our PM.

  48. MDMConnell

    Once again Gillard takes what could have been a triumph of sorts and stuffs it up by going about it in such a cack-handed way.

    And once again it looks like something that’s been calculated to the nth degree rather than being done with any sort of true conviction.

  49. pete m

    Token – it is not a “new right” that a child not be restrained within an adult prison. This has only been on the statute books since we imported the common law with us.

    What is new is that this government is so incompetent that it doesn’t care that kids are being shacked up with adults, it doesn’t care that intellectually disabled are being treated like adults and it doesn’t care to provide mental health treatment when someone is regularly trying to suicide.

    We judge a society on how it treats the most vulnerable, and on this count, Australia has badly failed itself.

    1 case we have been involved in was a young adult Iranian with a mental age of 4 was treated like an insolent adult and beaten by guards and other prisoners, sexually abused and then put in solitary confinement for 59 days straight. We got him out and into a mental health hospital and now the govt has to pay half a mil for his future care needs. Geniuses.

    but what sort of society do we live in when this fellow can be treated in this manner.

    By all means lock them up and then send them back. But while in our care, exercise care.

    Imagine your 4 year old child being put in solitary for 59 days – a toilet sized cubicle with a light on for only 2 hours.

  50. Token

    I suspect this cunning stunt by Comrade the Lying Slapper may just turn to porridge, for the reason mentioned above and because she’s shafted one of their own, again.

    She is the gaffe-machine after all. Nearly every time Gillard uses her “judgement” a disaster results.

    But wouldn’t of been easier to get the aboriginal challenger to Crossin in the preselection to be the candidate?

    I thought that as well as it would pay lip service to due process & achieve similar objectives.

    Further, Missy Nova may well have under-estimated the nasty nature of the game and over-estimated her ability to handle it.

    Don’t underestimate Peris, she was able to get a gold medal in one Olympic event (Hockey) in ’96 and another (the relay) in ’00.

    What you can also learn from that history is Peris does not appear to be a very good team player and will abandon team mates if she sees something to benefit her personally.

  51. dover_beach

    Rabz, the thing is, societies like Japan have conjured up a ‘problem’ at the end of life only because they are experiencing a ‘problem’ at the beginning; too few children.

  52. Dan

    Maybe the press hounding her was an incorrect turn of phrase, but surely they will hammer her on policy issues, her morals and reasoning behind the move into parliament? We expect nothing less

    Seriously though….

    I got the impression Mal Meninga quit because he couldn’t handle sticking to a predetermined script, I think Nova will find it equally difficult. As has been noted, she doesn’t have any experience in the beast that is daily politics and trying not to step on any toes will catch her out before the NT branch of the ALP get to her.

  53. Dan

    What you can also learn from that history is Peris does not appear to be a very good team player and will abandon team mates if she sees something to benefit her personally.

    If memory seves me right, this is why she quit the hockey team. Her peers couldn’t stand the silver spoon, overwhelming sense of her own self worth and the playing of the race card.

  54. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Don’t underestimate Peris, she was able to get a gold medal in one Olympic event (Hockey) in ’96 and another (the relay) in ’00.”

    I’d have John Sattler as our local member if sporting achievement was the assessment criteria! And he is a Mighty Rabbitoh to boot.

    Nah, that sports star stuff doesn’t wash, as much as I’m a lifelong sports fan – probably because, ‘cos you get to see up close what they are NOT good at.

  55. Token

    Imagine your 4 year old child being put in solitary for 59 days – a toilet sized cubicle with a light on for only 2 hours.

    That is horrible Pete M, absolutely horrible…

    …and comparing a 4 year old with teenagers who are specifically chosen by organised criminals to traffic humans to cause trouble over this law is is pretty shabby.

    Who do you think you are talking with?

  56. jupes

    … it doesn’t care to provide mental health treatment when someone is regularly trying to suicide.

    Yea right. Get the bleeding heart psychs in. They can tag team with you bleeding heart ambulance chasers.

    Of course they are “regularly” trying to suicide. Think about that. They try it regularly. Yet they are somehow still alive to claim compo. With your help of course.

    They are scamming the taxpayers, aided and abetted by pricks like you.

  57. Token

    If memory seves me right, this is why she quit the hockey team. Her peers couldn’t stand the silver spoon, overwhelming sense of her own self worth and the playing of the race card.

    You remember her as well as I do then. The ’96 team triumph was twisted into an individual victory and the team was very angry.

    She’ll fit in well with the Emily’s Listers in the modern Labor Party.

  58. Rafe

    A celebrity showpony!

    A Lurch re-run?

    Maybe she can sing as well.

  59. Mike of Marion

    I lived in Darwin for the period 1968 to the Cyclone in 1974.

    Territorians absolutely despise ‘southerners’ who try to impose their will on Territorians.

    As I see it, the CLP candidates for the Senate might end up with two quotas!!

    mike

  60. Dan

    Borderline vacuous. Interview with Andrew Denton

    Now, I know your Aboriginality means a great deal to you, and you’re a treaty ambassador for ATSIC. What does that involve?

    Nova Peris: Um, just pretty much all… Well, actually, I became involved in it a couple of years ago, and the more…every day in life, it’s not like I sit down and read books. You know, I go out and I’m a grass-roots person. I sort of started down and I build my way up, and I think it’s really sad that we are the only country in the Commonwealth where there was a first nation’s people, and a treaty had never been signed with the first nation’s people. And when you look at Canada, where there’s over 350 treaties, in the USA, there’s over 250 treaties there with its indigenous peoples, um, you know, Australia is going towards, in terms of more people are aware of the injustices in the past, they’re walking over bridges for reconciliation… But, um, being a treaty ambassador, it’s creating awareness.

    Andrew Denton: And are people receptive?

    Nova Peris: Very receptive. Like, I speak to, um…on my way to travel, um, air hostesses. They’re like, “What are you doing?” sort of thing. And then when you tell them about certain issues, they’re, like, quite embarrassed about treatment of Aboriginals over, you know, the last couple of hundred years and all the injustices.

    Andrew Denton: Do you support that leadership?

    Nova Peris: Well, I mean, if you’re a leader, um, like me being an ambassador, you’ve got to know where you stand, and that’s a responsibility you have to take. So, where I stand, it’s just me trying to create awareness of… you know, and fighting when it comes to indigenous rights. You know, the Australian public don’t lose 200 years, but they gain 40,000 years of true history. And in terms of, you know, ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’, when I was overseas just speaking to English people, that just heartened people in the world. They’re like, “Well, we never knew Australia was like that.” And to be honest with you, Australia has a great hidden shame, you know? And it needs to be said in terms of our Constitution. You know, that’s a shame. It was 1901 when that was written up and it doesn’t even shape where our country is at the moment, you know?

  61. Rabz

    societies like Japan have conjured up a ‘problem’ at the end of life only because they are experiencing a ‘problem’ at the beginning; too few children.

    Too true, Dover.

    Japan is a bust. Demographic death spiral.

  62. Tom

    So it turns out Peris is a person of poor character. How on earth could that have happened?

    Backlash grows over PM’s decision to push Nova Peris for NT Senate spot

    JULIA Gillard says the fact that Senator Trish Crossin was a Rudd supporter had nothing to do with her ousting in favour of indigenous Olympian Nova Peris.

    “All of that is completely irrelevant,” the Prime Minister told ABC radio today, amid a growing internal backlash over her decision to push Ms Peris to the top of the Northern Territory Senate ticket.

    “This was about my desire to ensure that Labor had within its caucus (people) representing … indigenous Australians.”

    Labor Senator Doug Cameron, a fellow Kevin Rudd supporter, attacked the decision, accusing Ms Gillard of a “pretty brutal exercise of political power”.

    “I think simply a night of the long knives against a senator who has given the party a long-term commitment, a very effective commitment, is not a good message,” he told ABC radio.

  63. .

    What you can also learn from that history is Peris does not appear to be a very good team player and will abandon team mates if she sees something to benefit her personally.

    Sorry, Ric Charlesworth would not have allowed to play in the national team for 8 or so years if that were so.

    She was one of the best in her team, and when she stepped down, they still won in 2000 – whilst she won a relay gold. I don’t think she let anyone down in that regard.

    Of course she is independently minded, I agree.

    I hope she takes up the preselection, gets her quota and resigns her (new) ALP membership.

    What she needs to see is the rottenness of the ALP/Greens alliance and what it means for Aborigines – no development. A gaffe here or there from Bob Carr wouldn’t go astray.

  64. .

    Borderline vacuous. Interview with Andrew Denton

    ???

    What mistake?

  65. Israeli elections preliminary results and analysis here.

  66. Myrrdin Seren

    Demographic death spiral

    Rabz

    E.M. Smith had another of his wide-ranging pieces that touched on this subject too the other day.

    He starts talking about long-dated debt maturities and links to a story from Seekingalpha:

    Between 2020 and 2045, however, the infertility of Southern Europe will catch up with it, and the elder dependent ratio will rise to over 60%–an impossible, unmanageable number.

    So he goes looking at a site ( Populationpyramid.net ) that graphs national demographic profiles.

    And then describes the resulting chart for Greece:

    Those two small white squares are on the 20-24 age bracket and say they have 2.7% women in that group. Another 3.3% up to age 30. That’s 6% in the most likely child bearing years.

    That’s it for Greece. They won’t have enough workers to support the social welfare state; they won’t have enough workers to care for the frail, aged and infirm; and they definitely will not be able to pay their debts.

    Japan can see the writing on the all too:

    The state pension fund has become a net seller of government bonds as the aging effect reaches a critical point. Japan’s banks have become the buyers or last resort instead, pushing their holdings to 85pc of GDP. The result is to starve small firms of credit.

    And I found this comment, quite amazing when you think about it, in a Macquarie Bank report ( no link ):

    China’s working age population (15-59 years) began to contract last year, according to the latest data from the NBS. This marks the beginning of a trend that will accelerate over the next two decades, at least, and could have profound implications for aggregate growth rates and labour cost inflation in the world’s second-largest economy,

    And they wonder why Asian people are saving like crazy for their old age !

  67. Dan

    Well, um, you know, so there is, um, like a tendency to, you know, rely on, um, certain, ah, um crutches in her speech, so, like, you know, it diminishes her, um, you know… The ability to convey, you know, like, the way she feels so, um, you know, it’s there in the way she speaks without the, ah, like you know um conviction

  68. Infidel Tiger

    Terrible news for Anglophiles

    Britain has been lost.

    Britain’s final day as a real country was when they agreed to hand back Hong Kong. A proper Britain would have told the Chinks they could have Hong Kong after they took London.

  69. Tom

    The thing the moochers always leave out when they start talking up the Gillard rabble’s electability is their track record for at least one giant self-inflicted stuff-up per calendar month, which hasn’t taken a holiday for Christmas-New Year.
    December 2012: surplus abandoned.
    January 2013: pre-selection war.
    (Not to mention Conroy’s telco spectrum stuff — see upthread)
    And it’s a long list.

  70. Rafe

    “And in terms of, you know, ‘Rabbit Proof Fence’, when I was overseas just speaking to English people, that just heartened people in the world. They’re like, “Well, we never knew Australia was like that.””

    Somone explain that Rabbit Proof Fence is a pack of lies that was repudiated by the actual person who was depicted in the drama. Clive James copped a storm of abuse when it filmed in the UK. Thanks a mill Noycie!

  71. pete m

    Token – I am not comparing anything. I’m giving just 1 example of how appalling it is to put teenagers, mentally handicapped and others in a prison system designed for adults and filled with adults.

    I don’t know who I’m talking to apart from your screen name “Token”. Should I know more from that?

    jupes – the only way to change behaviour is to punish by embarassing them with these sort of claims. Nothing else works with govt – try running a petition, campaign, media, etc. Nothing else works. The only time they act / change how they treat people is with these claims. And they are done pro bono unless costs are awarded.

  72. Infidel Tiger

    Re the BOF and NSW racial vilification laws, all he is calling for at this stage is an inquiry. He can still jump any way with this, e.g. he might be looking to repeal them. Don’t prejudge him on an interpretation of what he has said so far.

    Ask yourself this: what would an honest, apolitical inquiry into the questions he has asked actually come back with?

    That is so sweet 2Dogs. Your face must light up with joy every Christmas morning when you see what old Saint Nicholas has stuffed in your stocking.

  73. entropy


    But wouldn’t of been easier to get the aboriginal challenger to Crossin in the preselection to be the candidate?


    My understanding is the indig preselection candidate has been rather outspoken about he intervention in ways that would not play well in communities outside the well heeled suburbs of Darwin. Hence the need for an indig outsider.

  74. C.L.

    Sir David Attenborough calls for less blacks in the world:

    David Attenborough – Humans are plague on Earth.

    “We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now,” he told the Radio Times…

    We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case.”

  75. m0nty

    0.2% CPI for the December quarter.

    Sinc to rehash his stagflation post in 3… 2… 1…

  76. Infidel Tiger

    CNN Journalist fanboi writes Obama a letter… every single day for 4 years.

    Nothing creepy about that.

  77. C.L.

    They call it the Green Deal. It’s the British Coalition government’s “flagship energy efficiency project.” Here’s how it works:

    The new programme enables home owners to take out a loan up to £10,000 to make their house more energy-efficient, which they then pay back gradually through the savings on their fuel bills.

    Number of British households that have signed up: 5.

    Only five households sign up to Coalition’s flagship energy project.

  78. Infidel Tiger

    We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case.”

    No one has ever starved to death in a democracy you stupid old cnut. I hope an elephant tramples you to death.

  79. Infidel Tiger

    Strike a light.

    A rather large Australian lad is about to set an NFL record:

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/monstar-set-to-ink-professional-deal-20130122-2d58h.html

  80. Infidel Tiger

    I remember someone on here telling me that NFL players were pussies compared to NRL player:

    He was born weighing 4½ kilograms at Brisbane’s Mater hospital. Last year, he bench-pressed 272.5 kilograms. The Australian NRL record is 225kgs.

  81. Pedro

    JC, if you’re there, so much for that Japanese inflation target
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/22/bank_of_japan_punts_on_higher_inflation_target.html

    “Sir David Attenborough calls for less blacks in the world”

    He’s clearly being stupid, but that’s a pretty uncharitable interpretation of what he said. Attenborough is hardly the only malthusian hand-wringer around.

  82. C.L.

    It’s not uncharitable at all.

    All of the white countries have no problem feeding themselves. All of them without exception. He’s referring exclusively to black countries – indeed, he cites one.

  83. “We keep putting on programmes about famine in Ethiopia; that’s what’s happening. Too many people there. They can’t support themselves — and it’s not an inhuman thing to say. It’s the case.”

    He sounds like one of the characters from Lionel Shriver’s novel “Game Control”.

    Eleanor Merritt, a do-gooding American family-planning worker, was drawn to Kenya to improve the lot of the poor. Unnervingly, she finds herself falling in love with the beguiling Calvin Piper despite, or perhaps because of, his misanthropic theories about population control and the future of the human race. Surely, Calvin whispers seductively in Eleanor’s ear, if the poor are a responsibility they are also an imposition.

    Set against the vivid backdrop of shambolic modern-day Africa—a continent now primarily populated with wildlife of the two-legged sort—Lionel Shriver’s Game Control is a wry, grimly comic tale of bad ideas and good intentions. With a deft, droll touch, Shriver highlights the hypocrisy of lofty intellectuals who would “save” humanity but who don’t like people.

  84. He’s referring exclusively to black countries – indeed, he cites one.

    Black, and brown. He’s hardly the first to imply that the problem with the world is that there are just too many black and brown babies in it.

    Or as PJ O’Rourke famously put it, “Just Enough of Me; Way Too Many of You.”

    CL is right.

  85. “Lets begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the lands on which we meet today”

    You mean those traditional internet lands of aboriginal folklore? Yes, let’s.

  86. Tracey

    Snap sdog. I thought of that book straight away too.

  87. Harold

    Climate Change Science: A Modern Synthesis: Volume 1 – The Physical Climate
    G. Thomas Farmer, John Cook

    Designed as an introductory text for use at the undergraduate level, Climate Change Science assumes no science background on the part of the reader.

    Only $99 at Amazon. No doubt will be prescribed reading at UQ.

  88. Cold-Hands

    A comment from Ripple Effect of Moreton Bay at Michael Smith’s that says it all:

    IT’S ALL ABOUT MERIT.

    Prime Minister Gillard has defended her decision to dump, pleasantly plump, pasty-looking, long-time incumbent Senator Trish Crossin and replace her with a fit, well-tanned Nova Peris.
    The Prime Minister today said that she had met with Senator Crossin on several occasions over the last 12 months to advise her that her work performance was unsatisfactory. Ms Gillard added that she had personally observed Senator Crossin in the hallways of Parliament House and seen just how hopeless she is at running the 200m sprint.
    But what is worse is the fact that Senator Crossin is not a team player—her performance in the 4×100 relay around The Great Hall was utterly disgraceful. Ms Gillard said that Senator Crossin is an embarrassment to all of in the ALP. “I have tried to help her as much as is humanly possible. During her employee appraisals, I have argued with her until I was black in the face, but Senator Crossin always refused to acknowledge her shortcomings. Once Nova Perris is installed as a Senator, I expect that government business will be carried out with more expediency. It’s all about merit.”

  89. Myrrdin Seren

    Ethiopia:

    If the NGOs that have launched what they call ‘a campaign to stop manmade disaster in Ethiopia’ are truly concerned about the wellbeing of Ethiopians, why are they not campaigning for the people living at the Omo’s mercy to be freed from their river-enslavement? Why are they not fighting for Ethiopians’ rights to benefit from modern facilities, like electricity, which sustain International Rivers’ offices in sunny California?

    It is because these NGOs (International Rivers, the Counter Balance Coalition, the Campaign for the Reform of the World Bank, Friends of Lake Turkana and Survival International) do not want ‘indigenous people’ to change. Instead they want to preserve them in a state of noble savagery.

    Nathalie Rothschild at Spiked

    With development, the Ethiopians ( and others ) probably could support themselves.

    So Nathalie’s thesis that the rich NGO’s want to ‘preserve’ indigenous people is probably challenged by Attenborough’s comments that there are too many of them.

    The conclusion must be that lack of development will in due course wipe out vast swathes of these people due to hunger, disease, disaster etc and that is therefore the object of the exercise.

  90. Septimus

    Rabbit Proof Fence is a pack of lies

    Yep. In Miami, Florida, last year I was talking to an American guy who was pretty keen on both Rabbit Proof Fence and Australia. I told him those movies were quite a bit far-fetched and suggested that he should watch Wolf Creek instead.

  91. Harold

    They’re not messing around when they say it’s written for undergraduates…

    G. Thomas Farmer
    Farmer Enterprises
    Las Cruces, NM, USA

    John Cook
    School of Psychology
    The University of Queensland
    St Lucia, QLD, Australia

    Amazon provides the Foreward, selected quote…

    Most scientists are realists and their primary concern is for the best future for the humanity on this planet. It is the main reason most of them became scientists. The principal driver of scientific endeavour is to advance human knowledge and to make the Earth a more pleasant place, or at least a better place; a better understood place, for future generations to live. Scientists and others may differ about their definition of “better” but most want to improve the Earth and human society.

    More comedy at the Amazon link.

  92. Which one, Trace – Shriver’s or O’Rourke’s?

  93. Token

    Is it any suprise that Tony Burke is doing everything in his capacity of Minister to Destroy Primary Industry to stop these enterprising Australians?

    THE company behind the super-trawler banned from fishing in Australia plans to use it as a floating fish freezer instead, a move that could provoke further government intervention.

    …It would see the 143m-long factory ship used only as a mothership for freezing fish caught by a fleet of at least five smaller boats, from 28m to 40m, based in Tasmania and Port Lincoln, South Australia.

    By reducing the need for the smaller boats to return to shore with every catch, it would make the fishery viable without contravening the ban on the Abel Tasman taking fish.

    Ludwig & Burke (yes 2 Ministers) are on the case to review innovations in the fishing industry:

    A spokesman for Fisheries Minister Joe Ludwig hinted that the same powers that were used to ban the super-trawler from fishing could be used to ban it from acting solely as a floating freezer.

    “Minister Burke is currently seeking advice from his department about whether this proposal is a new activity and his options for reviewing the proposal,” the spokesman said.

    …Senator Ludwig’s spokesman said that last September parliament passed legislation that provided the Environment Minister with “the power to refer methods of fishing that haven’t been used previously to an expert panel for their review”.

  94. Interesting potted history of the wool industry here

    Short excerpt:

    Now stir in the Hawke Labor Government (1983–91), which floats the currency, winds back protection and moves to deregulate the economy, all good things needed to open Australia up to the world. This reforming policy zeal plus the growing power of the AWC eventually gives us the Wool Marketing Act, 1987. The Act takes the extraordinary step of largely ceding the annual setting of the MRP to woolgrowers. Based on the relevant economics literature and experience, this was a stupid regulatory model if ever there was one!

  95. Dan

    Without despots, famine and disease are the most effective population control tools.

  96. Without despots, famine and disease are the most effective population control tools.

    Actually, education and capitalism work even better.

  97. No first-world peaceful democracies are suffering from overpopulation, despite their lack of handy despots or “famine and disease” to cull the herd.

  98. Harold

    Most scientists are excited about their science [HT to Big Kev] and they hope to be able to impart that excitement to the students that they teach or for whom they write. Scientists are among the best educated members of society and now is a great time to be a scientist [$kaching$] because knowledge is expanding astronomically, in quantum leaps. New knowledge is always exciting in one’s major field of interest, but what is being found out today about the Earth and its climate is truly amazing. New satellites are being sent into space [on rockets?? rockets are COOL!] and Earth orbit [pedantic fail, sent into space != satellite] to monitor Earth’s climate in ways never before imagined or thought possible. Scientists are learning more and more about the past climates of other planets as well as about that of the Earth. Other space vehicles are exploring other parts of the Universe and man is getting ready to explore other planets [and mine the @#%& out of them for cash!]

  99. Pedro

    “He’s referring exclusively to black countries – indeed, he cites one”

    I think there is a difference between pointing out that there are too many blacks and noting that famine is a problem in a particular part of the world. After all, famines are political problems and easily solved if there is enough food in toto and trade or donations.

    Attenborough is wrong to think there is a serious food problem, but I very much doubt he is stupid or wicked enough to think that kenyans or ethiopians should starve if they can’t grow enough food for themselves. It’s just the type of bone-headedness exposed in Against Nature.

  100. Token

    There is more to this move by Gillard than meets the eye:

    Trish Crossin: Senator for the Northern Territory

    Trish Crossin is the current National Co-Convenor of EMILY’s List Australia. She has represented the Northern Territory in the Senate since 1998 and is the first woman elected to federal parliament from the Northern Territory. Trish is Chair of the Senate Legal and Constitutional Legislation Committee and Deputy Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Rural and Regional Indigenous Communities. She was formerly the Deputy Opposition Whip in the Senate from 2001 to 2004.

    Trish has been a member of the ALP since the early 1980s and is currently President of the NT Branch. Prior to her election she was a teacher and a union official. Trish joined EMILY’s List Australia as a foundation member in 1997.

  101. Pedro

    “Without despots, famine and disease are the most effective population control tools become quite rare.”

  102. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “… you’re a treaty ambassador for ATSIC. What does that involve?

    Nova Peris: Um, just pretty much all… Well, actually, … (mumble unconnected words) … You know, I go out and I’m a grass-roots person.

    Well, I mean, if you’re a leader, um, like me being an ambassador, … (more unconnected words) … it’s just me trying to create awareness of… you know,”

    Aha, at last, the answer is – she’s an Awareness Creator Organiser Thingy! Like, you know.

    That was from a 40 year old. She’ll be in good company with Labor’s other notable barely literate wimminses, Comrade Pre-schooler Kate Ellis.

    “Borderline vacuous”? It’s disability pension-worthy Dan!

    “Sorry, Ric Charlesworth would not have allowed to play in the national team for 8 or so years if that were so.”

    You’re hypothesising Dot. Charlesworth may just have possibly maybe perhaps could-of of spent 80% of his time keeping her or them hosed down.

    “She was one of the best in her team, and when she stepped down, they still won in 2000″

    So what? That does not deny “Her peers couldn’t stand the silver spoon, overwhelming sense of her own self worth and the playing of the race card.”

    I’m reminded now (by Dan) of the trouble she generated at the time. I’ve not checked but I vaguely recall there may have been a John Steffensen-like appeal against non selection at some time as well.

    I hope the whole farce, and both wimminses involved in the stunt, fall flat on their faces.

  103. Pedro

    “No first-world peaceful democracies countries are suffering from overpopulation, but some have really crap governments and institutions.”

  104. Cold-Hands

    Trish joined EMILY’s List Australia as a foundation member in 1997.
    As did Gillard.
    Are you suggesting that there’s some score settling going on?

  105. Tracey

    Sorry sdog, I meant Shriver’s. I’m yet to read anything of hers that I haven’t enjoyed.

  106. Harold

    Everyone is doomed, even you people who thought you could escape underground and live in tunnels like the Morlocks, DOOMED!

    It is not that humans will suffocate from the additional CO2 directly [undergrad text], but that it will cause an increase in Earth’s temperature to a degree that will make the planet too hot for humans to live on it or in it.

  107. kae

    I’m pretty sure that none of our 4 year olds would find themselves in immigration detention.

  108. Token

    I just thought it is interesting how the PM is helping one of her old chums from EL.

    As did Gillard.
    Are you suggesting that there’s some score settling going on?

    We are talking about the Labor Party.

    As has been mentioned above, Crossin backed Rudd last year.

  109. Skuter

    Re the Nova Peris thing…
    Gillard is afraid of democracy, even within her own party. If she really wanted Nova Peris to be a credible entrant into the federal parliament, she would have insisted that she go through the pre-selection process. That way, Gillard and more importantly Peris would have been able to claim that she won the spot on merit. Instead, Gillard basically tells the members of the NT labor party that they are too stupid to do what is in their best interests and that only she knows what is best.
    Peris herself helped the cat today when she basically admitted this is about winning back aboriginal votes in the wake of the disastrous (for labor) NT election result.
    On another note, I am glad that a foundation member of Emily’s list has been dumped…

  110. kae

    Peris looked like a rabbit in the spotlight, Gillard looked like… um, not too sure what she looked like but I suspect…

    Botox.

  111. .

    “Borderline vacuous”? It’s disability pension-worthy Dan!

    Why are we complaining? What would Napoleon say as the Austrians shifted their artillery to their isolated left flank?

  112. Harold, a pity we hadn’t sent a probe to that asteroid that’s going to pass the Earth in February. If it’s metallic, we could mine it. If it’s rock, I could think of a particular persons head it could be dropped on.

    Rabz, take holidays in February. Preferably in Qld or WA. Bring your significant others…

  113. Rousie

    Are the Emily Lister’s eating there own now?

  114. Dan

    Thanks for fixing that for me

  115. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “What would Napoleon say as the Austrians shifted their artillery to their isolated left flank?”

    Oh there surely is that Dot, you are right. The fabulous negotiator negotiates remarkably yet again.

  116. H B Bear

    Burke & Ludwig are to politics and primary production what Burke & Wills were to exploration.

  117. Tom

    Fatty O’Barrell’s nanny state goes after rail hitch-hiker:

    Police said the train driver saw the woman climb on to the roof of the freight train as it stopped at Broken Hill about 3am on Tuesday. The train continued on its 320km journey and reached speeds of 115km/h before stopping at Ivanhoe Railway Station.

    The train driver contacted police and gave them a description of the woman. A short time later, officers stopped a woman matching the driver’s description as she walked along the Cobb Highway towards Ivanhoe’s town centre.

    The woman, who was attempting to make her way to Adelaide, was taken to Ivanhoe where other travel arrangements were made.

    The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of a train not intended for passenger use.

    She is due to appear in Broken Hill Local Court on March 11.

  118. She’s good value, Tracey. Good to see she has fans in Oz. I really liked “So Much For That” too.

  119. entropy


    Police said the train driver saw the woman climb on to the roof of the freight train as it stopped at Broken Hill about 3am on Tuesday. T

    But he still departed BH knowing the woman was on the roof..

  120. Skuter

    helped the cat

    Whoops, that should have read…”belled the cat”

  121. Myrrdin Seren

    One of the UK Tele’s oped writers picks up the obvious question from ‘Brave Dave’ Cameron’s announcement that there in fact will NOT be peace in our time:

    David Cameron anticipates a ‘generational struggle’ against al-Qaeda. With what?

    And the best rating commenter ‘gets it’:

    The denudation of Britain’s armed forces is an absolute scandal.

    No doubt Cameron believes that the slack will be picked up by some kind of Euro-army.

    Much as our own Federales hope there will be no local nastiness AND we will have lots of big friends after they have skewered our own defence capability.

    BTW – I suspect a hollowed out defence capability will be played by the Europhiles as another reason for Britain to stay in the EU.

  122. C.L.

    You know, I’m starting to wonder if Michael Smith is a peanut. I have no brief to defend Ray Hadley (a blabbermouthed idiot) but Smith’s rejection of Hadley’s scepticism regarding Gillard’s criminality goes just a smidgen over the top:

    Ray is wrong. There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth. It will take time, it’s a huge investigation, there are presently countless witnesses to be found, interviewed, statements taken and that evidence collated for presentation to a court.

    Some of the finest detectives on earth are presently investigating Julia Gillard?

  123. Pickles

    Crossin is going to fight the Captain’s Pick.

    Eggsellent. Green cans, handbags and paring knives all round. Two mates each, no holds barred.

  124. C.L.

    Earning the big bucks…

    Gillard outlines national security strategy.

    She says terrorism is a key national security risk.

  125. .

    The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of a train not intended for passenger use.

    She is due to appear in Broken Hill Local Court on March 11.

    I hope she gave them a fake identity.

    Fatty O’Barrell’s nanny state goes after rail hitch-hiker

    So, they’ve solved all of the pending murder, armed robbery and sexual assault cases then?

  126. Rabz

    I hope the whole farce, and both wimminses involved in the stunt, fall flat on their faces.

    Or failing that, on their well upholstered bottomses…

  127. C.L.

    Australian man faces 24 lashes of the cane in Singapore for foul-mouthed tirade on Tiger Airways flight. Harsh, to be sure. But I would have no objection to men being caned for wearing singlets or thongs on flights.

  128. Tom

    As Pickles mentioned, this is now out of control: the incompetent, brain-dead Lying Slapper is asking for a public, humiliating slapdown that would make her position untenable:

    TRISH Crossin will fight Julia Gillard’s attempt to install Nova Peris as her replacement in the Senate, pitting herself against the Olympian in a battle for the support of the ALP national executive.

    Senator Crossin’s vow to battle for her Senate spot comes amid a growing internal backlash over the Prime Minister’s plan to override Northern Territory Labor and push Ms Peris to the top of the Territory ticket.

    The ALP national executive committee will hold a phone hook-up later today to endorse Ms Gillard’s “captain’s pick”, and to fast-track Ms Peris’s ALP membership.

    But Senator Crossin said she intended to put her name forward if nominations for the Territory Senate seat were opened by the national executive.

    She also ruled out running as an independent and called for NT Labor members to be included in the process of selecting the Territory’s Senate candidate.

  129. You know, I’m starting to wonder if Michael Smith is a peanut.

    Being on Twitter, I’ve seen what I can only describe as small-but-enthusiastic unquestioning cults of personality form around first Pickering and then Smith.

    I’ve just tended to instinctively give them a pretty wide berth on that. A lot of it seems OTT to me.

  130. .

    The ALP cannot win here.

    Either they look corrupt, or that they spit out and use indigenous Australians.

    Do not interrupt them whilst they make the mistake, but make them remember it for a long time.

  131. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Gillard … She says terrorism is a key national security risk.”

    Good God! Now that changes everything.

  132. Infidel Tiger

    Australian man faces 24 lashes of the cane in Singapore for foul-mouthed tirade on Tiger Airways flight. Harsh, to be sure. But I would have no objection to men being caned for wearing singlets or thongs on flights.

    This is fantastic news. Mow that scum can afford to fly they need remedial lessons in manners.

  133. C.L.

    Smith said the other day (I followed a link from here and looked around) that his blog is now his only source of income. There followed his bank donation details. So when he posts teasers about the impending – always impending – doom of Julia Gillard at the hands of planet earth’s greatest detectives, do take it with a Volkswagon-sized boulder of salt.

  134. Tracey

    sdog, I liked that one too but I think my favourite (apart from We Need to Talk About Kevin) was The Post-Birthday World

  135. Tintarella di Luna

    Burke & Ludwig are to politics and primary production what Burke & Wills were to exploration.

    Ahhhhahahaha- love it HB Bear – such a great turn of phrase, vocalising is rather overrated when you come up with gems like that.

  136. Tintarella di Luna

    …officers stopped a woman matching the driver’s description as she walked along the Cobb Highway towards Ivanhoe’s town centre.

    so the train driver was a woman that looked like a stow-away — that sentence needs a bit of work — I am confused too much luna for me.

  137. Infidel Tiger

    Some of the finest detectives on earth are presently investigating Julia Gillard?

    They certainly won’t be Australian Police then. Obviously Interpol are involved.

  138. Tracey

    The donation thing bothers me about Michael Smith too CL. His wife is apparently a paid presenter on some TV channel so they should hardly be starving.

  139. Pickles

    Yes Tom it appears that every member of the NT Branch have been served up a shit sandwich by The Missus up The Big House.

    They have a choice. If they dog it, then it will be up to the NT electorate to reinforce the old NT truism that interfering Southerners aren’t welcome up here (but your big mob of cash is). As to what happens if the NTALP spits out the turd roll, I don’t know or care, but I just hope there is lots of skin and hair flying.

  140. C.L.

    Tracey, I have no problem with anyone asking for money for a service (including running a blog). The trouble is that Smith is in the impending fall of Gillard racket and his supporters imagine they’re helping the noble cause by ‘supporting his work.’

  141. Tracey

    Agreed. I still wonder what Glen Milne is doing. Does anybody know?

  142. Tom

    Pickles, and as far as the bush Aborigines are concerned — that’s the people who delivered government to the CLP last year — Nova is a city girl imposed on them by southerners. She is one of them. Just to cap off the disaster, Gillard has also gone to war with the local ALP machine. Naivety and stupidity beyond belief.

  143. Andreas

    There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth.

    Cue the entrance of Thomson and Thompson.

  144. Infidel Tiger

    There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth.

    Unless you can solve the Gillard Swindle with a radar trap and a booze bus I fail to see what role Australian Police can play in this case.

    If she’s caught going 64kmh in a 60kmh zone with a BAC of 0.051 then they’re our guys.

  145. entropy

    Just wondering, where does Nova Peris currently live?

  146. Pickles

    Now look here Tom, this is a Cunning Plan. Gillard hasn’t put a foot wrong yet and I doubt she will here. She’s the Master Negotiator and Tactician. She has pulled The Party behind her. As it were.

    Marion Scrymgour ranting. Bess Price and Alison Anderson chortling. Nigel Scullion dishing up a feed of mud crab.

  147. Tracey

    It’s difficult to reconcile how Gillard’s body (sorry) can simultaneously house such rat cunning and such monstrous ineptness and stupidity.

  148. entropy


    AN indigenous Northern Territory politician has called Nova Peris the “maid inside the house” of the Labor Party.

    “I think she’s (Prime Minister Julia Gillard) been shamed into making that decision … ” said CLP Minister Alison Anderson.

    “I think she’s been dragged kicking to preselect an Aboriginal person, which I think is a great shame.

    “Because I don’t think Territorians know her, especially Aboriginal people out in remote Aboriginal communities. And I don’t think she understands the poverty and disadvantage of the remote Territory.”

    The indigenous Ms Anderson – a former NT Labor minister – said Ms Peris would be a “maid to do the sheets and serve the cups of teas”.

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’.”

  149. C.L.

    Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Boobs, Says Equalities Minister

    Big boobs aren’t vital.

  150. Token

    The indigenous Ms Anderson – a former NT Labor minister – said Ms Peris would be a “maid to do the sheets and serve the cups of teas”.

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’.”

    Wow

  151. Myrrdin Seren

    It’s difficult to reconcile how Gillard’s body (sorry) can simultaneously house such rat cunning and such monstrous ineptness and stupidity.

    You wouldn’t want to be trapped on a life raft with her, and a diminishing supply of survival rations…..must..not..fall…asleep…must…not…..

  152. Tracey

    I would jump off the raft and take my chances with the sharks!

  153. jupes

    jupes – the only way to change behaviour is to punish by embarassing them with these sort of claims.

    You don’t get it.

    The behaviour I want the government to change is that of the freeloaders deciding to coming here by boat. I want the government to make illegal immigration a harsh experience. Very harsh. Then I want them to be sent home.

    I don’t want fuckwits like you taking taxpayer’s money and giving it to the freeloaders as extra incentive to make the journey.

  154. Fire and Ice

    another insight into the democratic process and notch up another failure, when it can be hailed as a success when a competent minister is pushed aside for a figure who has few credentials above sporting success. The cost to the electorate – huge, but unmeasured. Even if the democratic process has a bare shred of credibility this stands as an act of stupidity, indigenous nominee or otherwise. An example of political point scoring in its purest form.

  155. Pickles

    Alison Anderson doesn’t do air swings. The little Papunya girl is brutal.
    I wonder if that Larissa Behrent will tweet the “rather watch a bloke root a horse on Deadwood than listen to Alison” jibe. I dares ya. Worked out well last time.

  156. Tom

    I don’t think Territorians know her, especially Aboriginal people out in remote Aboriginal communities.

    Full-blood Aborigines have a very uncharitable phrase for mixed-race city Aborigines.

  157. C.L.

    Classic Australiana:

    A SIX-month inquiry into Victoria’s racing industry has found no evidence of systemic corruption.

    Racing Integrity Commissioner Sal Perna said his investigations led to a number of inquiries, but only one has resulted in a prosecution.

    “Based on current evidence, race fixing is not a systemic issue in Victoria,” Mr Perna said.

    Nothing broken, then. All good.

    No no.

    This is Australia, remember.

    Despite his conclusion that Victorian racing is free of endemic race-fixing, Mr Perna made 11 recommendations in his report released today, mostly relating to the need for the industry to have greater coercive powers and for the introduction of legislation to enable police to share information with racing authorities.

  158. Louis Hissink

    Putting on my best Bullwinkle J Moose voice:

    “Oooh”

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’

  159. jupes

    There’s plenty of proof, it’s being collected now by some of the finest detectives on earth.

    That would be the same detectives who have been investigating Thomo now for over a year. Of course they wouldn’t have to do too much as FWA had investigated him for over three years before that.

    In all truth, I reckon I could wrap the whole thing up in under a week.

  160. C.L.

    Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Boobs, Says Equalities Minister

    Oh, but the mention of Christina Hendricks in Mad Men is an opportunity that can’t be missed to again showcase the greatest animated gif ever made.

  161. m0nty

    You know, I’m starting to wonder if Michael Smith is a peanut.

    Smith is not a journalist any more, he’s now in public relations. The PR he’s doing is for his sources. Somehow he has figured out that it’s a good business model to do free PR for one side of politics, and beg those who agree with that side to give him alms. He believes in civil society so much that he is basing his entire career and livelihood on private donors.

    Michael Smith is the Stella Kowalski of Australian politics.

  162. Keith

    I see Nova runs a charity called “Peris Enterprises”.
    Has a nice touchy-feely ring to it, not.
    Before she runs for the Senate, can we see the books? Can we have a brief summary of its objectives and achievements to date.
    Sounds like the snout knows where the trough is, even if not yet fully in it.

  163. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    I’m loving this …

    “CLP Minister Alison Anderson – a former NT Labor minister – said Ms Peris would be a “maid to do the sheets and serve the cups of teas”.

    “Aboriginal people are welcome to the verandas of the Labor Party … but today the Prime Minister has said ‘that we have a maid inside the house’.”

    Looking around the NT News I see a Darwin bus driver was beaten around the scone yesterday with a watermelon. With a watermelon. By a non paying passenger. While his kids watched.

    Anyhow – here are a few reader comments to the various news reports about Our Nova Peris-No-Longer-Kneebone:

    “What are we, the people of the NT really gaining or losing here? On one hand you have a long term ineffectual and invisible senator in Trish Crossin, … On the other hand you have a woman brought up and schooled in a Darwin northern suburb, who only discovered her “aboriginality” once she won a gold medal and needed a job after atheletics but lived in Canberra for the last 15 years.

    Now that’s a good start for her campaign to win un-Canberra voters.

    “I saw Peris on the Today Show this morning so called answering questions OMG what an embarrassment she is going to get eaten alive and spat out in the parliament”

    Unsurprising. Followed by another similar observation.

    “Well Nova hang your head you are tainted for ever and i will never accept you as my labour senator ever,watching you on the today show made me cringe and your tears standing next to the chief is only the beginning shame shame”

    Here’s a classic:

    “Gillard said today that she wanted more women in the parliment and that is the reason she approached Nova Peris……………..What the hell does she think Trish Crossin is?”

    An obvious question:

    “Perhaps Ms. Crossin was not a high profile, well considered representative however what qualifications does Ms Peris have in this field which can contribute to politics?”

    And, yes, the likely result:

    “Nothing more than populist politics to get the aborigine vote. Look at Garret and what a fine asset he is, Nova Peris will be just as useless.”

  164. Jc 

    Monster

    What about you and that stupid site you’re running for the kids?

  165. pete m

    jupes – I’m all for the Howard policies and stopping illegal boat arrivals. I’m also in favour of dealing with them however legally we can to stop them from boarding boats in the first place, such as mandatory detention in another country etc. But that does not mean we turn ourselves into barbarians.

    M Smith is being overly enthusiastic about Vic Police for a couple of reasons I think. My view is he is setting them up so they don’t drop the investigation on him. He is also knocking back people who are being negative and dismissive of them. Good luck to him but no $ from me.

  166. C.L.

    …I see a Darwin bus driver was beaten around the scone yesterday with a watermelon. With a watermelon.

    Watermelon buyback now.

  167. Rabz

    Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Bottoms, Says CL

  168. Tom

    Smith is not a journalist any more, he’s now in public relations.

    As if you’re a fucking expert, Monty. Smith has virtually an entire beat to himself; his only competitor is The Australian. Because the rest of the ethically bankrupt media is openly barracking for an incument government and has stopped reporting the news with even a pretence of objectivity — the first time this has happened in Australian history.

    Professionally, Smith could have taken the soft option, shut his mouth and got a job being a Good German media invertebrate. Instead, he has sacrificed his career to do what no other independent journalist is doing.

    He is certainly not a gutless bumboy like you, barracking for a political ruling class that is hated by most of the population. You’re a caricature of a journalist.

  169. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Women Should Be Hot, Slutty Secretaries With Massive Bottoms, Says CL”

    I read it Rabz, and re-read it and then roared laughing.

  170. C.L.

    Just listen to this fatuous idiot. Julia Gillard has now altered the meaning of the word merit. She now claims that SHE (not God or fate or genes or luck) ‘distributes’ it:

    “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population, across genders, across races then if you are looking at an outcome where you can see lots of men or not many indigenous Australians, then people of merit are missing out,” she said.

  171. C.L.

    Christina’s bottom is not massive. It’s perfect.

  172. Michael Smith is the Stella Kowalski of Australian politics.

    Chucklehead. Leave it to you to fuck up a reference from a classic play like Streetcar.

  173. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Big boobs aren’t vital

    Whilst not vital, they certainly help!

  174. Infidel Tiger

    In the spirit of this new definition of merit, Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe.

  175. Rabz

    Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe.

    Trish Crossin misses out again…

  176. “Are the Emily Lister’s eating there own now?”

    Isn’t that what Emily’s List is about? Oh, the irony…

  177. Keith

    Watermelon buyback now.

    Only self-loading assault watermelons

  178. jupes

    jupes – I’m all for the Howard policies and stopping illegal boat arrivals. I’m also in favour of dealing with them however legally we can to stop them from boarding boats in the first place, such as mandatory detention in another country etc. But that does not mean we turn ourselves into barbarians.

    Mate you are either thick or gullible. Perhaps both. Either way, what you are doing is bad for Australia.

    We are dealing with scam artists here. They are here for free stuff. You stated they “regularly” try to commit suicide. Somehow they don’t succeed. Why is that do you think?

    Australia needs to be as harsh as necessary to get rid of these parasites and ensure no more try to come here. What we definitely don’t need is psychiatrists or lawyers getting their own noses into the trough while dipping their hands into the taxpayer’s pockets and giving it to illegal immigrants.

    That would only reward their behaviour and more will follow.

  179. C.L.

    “Are the Emily’s Listers eating their own now?”

    Isn’t that what Emily’s List is about?

    Eating, you mean?

    Yes: Christine Nixon apologises for dining out on evening of Black Saturday.

  180. “The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of a train not intended for passenger use.”

    What about for being so stupid as to travel 320kms in the wrong direction? Do we delete the train scene from Skyfall when it finally reaches FTA TV?

  181. Rousie

    “If you believe as I do fundamentally that merit is distributed equitably across the population, across genders, across races then if you are looking at an outcome where you can see lots of men or not many indigenous Australians, then people of merit are missing out,” she said.

    Surely that’s game, set & match right there. Let’s ask Nova whether she supports da new method of team based selections

  182. Dan

    Can anybody find a link to peris enterprises? Lots of references to it but no real evidence it actually exists.

    I did find her employment history though

    Employment History
    Advocate
    Aboriginal

    Treaty Ambassador
    Big Sky Publishing Pty Ltd

    Board Memberships and Affiliations
    Member
    Aboriginal

    Founder
    Peris Enterprises

    Board Member
    National Depression Institute

  183. “Gillard has also gone to war with the local ALP machine. Naivety and stupidity beyond belief.”

    Keep racking up the enemies, Gillard. I can’t see her eventual demise being anything but metaphorically bloody, unless of course she makes it to the next election and loses to Abbott, what would in effect be a mercy killing.

  184. Gab

    Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe.

    Earthians,

    This will scare off aliens from other worlds. They’ll never phone me!!

    Regards

    Bob Brown.

  185. “In the spirit of this new definition of merit, Nicola Roxon will be representing Australia in Miss Universe”

    I can only presume she would be going for the greasy-haired vote.

  186. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Christina’s bottom is not massive. It’s perfect.

    Well, it’s definitely ’round’ anyway, CL. Nothing at all ‘pert’ there.

  187. Token

    I can’t see her eventual demise being anything but metaphorically bloody, unless of course she makes it to the next election and loses to Abbott, what would in effect be a mercy killing.

    Remember how the great outpouring of relief and happiness from the Labor Caucus after the Rudd reign of terror was ended. Long sermons on how relieved they that the dark days were over. The ABC, FauxFacts & Newscorp lackeys denouncing the former leader they fawned over only 24 hours earlier.

    It is not hard to imagine we’ll see a similar event real soon…

  188. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “jupes – I’m all for the Howard policies and stopping illegal boat arrivals. … But that does not mean we turn ourselves into barbarians.”

    World peace, I too long for World Peace pete m, and no starving liddle, liddle children.

    Barbarians? Give me a break. We are the softest touch in the whole region – don’t you remember Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono suggesting we “take the sugar off the table”? He doesn’t even bother sending out his coast guard to rescue them when they deliberately spike their vessels as they cast off in Djakarta Harbour, because dopey whitey downstream will send the RAN all the way there to rescue them. Neither he should too.

    They shouldn’t be allowed in by boat, as simple as that. That’s not barbaric.

    The Singapore and Philippines Governments control their readily accessible borders with naval boats and machine guns, 24 hours a day, and they turn the illegals’ boats around. That’s not barbaric either.

    If you want to be all lovely about illegals then how about you take over all the payments whittled off my tax dollars for illegals’ preferred lifestyle, and those whittled off my childrens’ tax dollars, there’s a good lad. You can take them out into the desert to live with you ‘cos I don’t want them using facilities paid for and maintained by me.

    I’ll write a nice lovely letter to the UN telling them how lovely you are.

  189. sdog

    Can anybody find a link to peris enterprises? Lots of references to it but no real evidence it actually exists.

    Try the ABN lookup or ASIC register:

    https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/RegistrySearch/faces/landing/SearchRegisters.jspx?_adf.ctrl-state=19s4ycig6m_4 (if that doesn’t work search from here: http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/Registers?openDocument )

    Or this: http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByName.aspx?SearchText=Peris+Enterprises

  190. Dan

    Yea trying. Weird that a Pty Ltd company has no records available.

  191. “It is not hard to imagine we’ll see a similar event real soon…”

    I have a bottle of champers chilled for precisely that occasion. Ding, dong! The witch is dead! is oh so catchy…

  192. “Remember how the great outpouring of relief and happiness from the Labor Caucus after the Rudd reign of terror was ended.”

    What does that make Gillard’s reign? The reign of error?

  193. Token

    Mate you are either thick or gullible. Perhaps both. Either way, what you are doing is bad for Australia.

    Pete M has a point. The system Gillard designed and the incompetents in Labor implemented has seen over 30,000 people come to country in a rush. Think about how big an opportunity that is for big government agencies to act inhumane and to brutalise people.

    You can be it has been made worse since Bowen implemented the most amazing policies which made it a crime for staff to speak out about problems in the system.

    The staff with hearts and souls who previously spoke to people like Ray Hadley are now be afraid to report the abuse of the vulnerable by organised criminals running under the cover of this system.

    __________________

    That said, there is a real moral hazard to treat the teenagers who crew the boats in a different way to the adult crew. It created an incentive to the organised criminals to use children as crew.

    When those boats when down at sea you can bet a number of those Indonesian children went down on the boats…

  194. Harold

    That’s an R there isn’t it in “peris enterprises” ?

  195. kae

    The charity doesn’t seem to have charitable status…

  196. Dan

    You have to pay for that info! For a charity, it’s reporting is not very transparent.

    All I can ascertain is that it is not entitled to receive tax deductible gifts, and in october of last year the registered address was moved to the nt, although a web listing still remains for an office in the ACT.

  197. sdog

    I see Nova runs a charity called “Peris Enterprises”.

    The ABN registry says that there’s a PERIS ENTERPRISES PTY LTD and a Nova Peris Enterprises Pty Limited – neither are listed as “entitled to receive tax deductible gifts”. Can’t find “Peris” anything in the DGR listings either. Odd, for a charity.

    There may still be a registered charity out there but – maybe someone else can find it. I’m not as familiar with the Aussie system as I am the US one. I’m involved with an American charity and we have to post our full tax returns on the open internet for all to see.

  198. Dan

    The charity doesn’t seem to have charitable status…

    Although everybody refers to it as a charity. Yea, seems to be a vehicle to raise money for own expenses.

  199. kae

    Briefly glancing at what’s available at ABN LookUp, Peris Enterprises has shareholders.

    It is not a registered charity, which appear in ABN LookUp like this one.

  200. Gab

    Pedis Enterprises

    Former name(s): PERIS KNEEBONE ENTERPRISES PTY LTD

  201. kae

    Here’s another charitable organisation, but not a charity per se. NSW VRA.

  202. Fleeced

    Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    Meanwhile, in Australia, Macklin is accused of making a “gaffe” when she dares suggest you can live on the dole. Japan really went nuts for Croc Dundee, and had to go one up, “Haha – that’s not a gaffe… THIS is a gaffe!”

    Seriously though, the end result of socialised care is always death panels. Palin was ripped for saying it – possibly because the Left like to imagine she was stupid enough to suggest a literal panel deciding who to terminate, rather than merely stating the implicit result of the inevitable rationing of services.

  203. Gab

    Excellent analysis by Super D at 4.42am.

  204. sdog

    Seriously though, the end result of socialised care is always death panels.

    Yes. Yes, it is.

  205. Tracey

    I just saw very sad news for old Angels fans in The Australian. Chris Bailey is receiving palliative care for cancer and Doc Neeson was diagnosed with a brain tumour over Christmas.

  206. Dan

    So which bloody one is it?

    Does this seem dodgy to you lot?

  207. C.L.

    Roxon orders charges against newspaper for accurately and helpfully reporting story of woman’s criminal behaviour:

    Charges could soon be laid against The Courier-Mail for allegedly breaching the Family Law Act during its coverage of a custody battle over four Italian sisters.

    The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into the Queensland newspaper after it last year published the names and photographs of the sisters at the centre of the international dispute…

    The complaint went to the federal Attorney-General’s office before being referred to the AFP on May 22. It in turned launched an investigation into the potential breach of the Family Law Act.

    Um, the woman’s grandmother – described by the Family ‘Court’ judge as behaviourally “extremely inappropriate and bizarre” – was unlawfully at large with her great-grandchildren – this was a missing persons case, in other words. This wasn’t a court-room “challenge” to the court’s orders. The newspaper was justified in pursuing this separate story (pictures included) – involving, as it did, the apprehension of what was, in effect, a kidnapped family.

  208. Gab

    Practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube being used on young patients
    Doctor admits starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in neonatal unit

    Japan’s deputy prime minister has been forced to apologise after suggesting that old people should “hurry up and die” to save the state the cost of providing them with medical care.

    So this is what “Voluntary” euthanasia 2013 looks like. More to come.

  209. C.L.

    Those words again:

    The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into the Queensland newspaper…

  210. Gab

    Roxon orders charges against newspaper

    Von Roxon and Conroy believe they have “unfettered legal power”. More to come.

  211. Token

    The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into the Queensland newspaper…

    One would think that of all Newscorp newspapers, in any other cae the Courier Mail would get the most excited by the prospect.

    As Oakeshott promised us, this parliament & government can be beautiful in its ugliness…

  212. JamesK

    In the land of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”, the 40th anniversary has been ignored by the MSM.

    56 million unborn babies killed.

    Bravo leftists.

  213. JamesK

    40th anniversary Roe v Wade

  214. sdog

    Kae & Dan, as mentioned, charities in the US have to make their detailed IRS form 990s public for inspection, and then they get rated on them thusly.

    Australia’s system has always seemed a lot less open & transparent to me.

  215. C.L.

    Extraordinary privileges and indulgence were afforded to the women behind the unlawful kidnapping of the four sisters. If they were men, they’d be doing hard time in the Big House. It was a shocking look for the Family ‘Court’ whose Chief Justice (a woman, natch) was the one who referred the Courier to the police. I can understand why she and the sisterhood resented the attention of a (formerly) free press.

  216. C.L.

    Obama Celebrates 40 Years of Abortion, Praising Roe v. Wade.

    “On the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we reaffirm its historic commitment to protect the health and reproductive freedom of women across this country and stand by its guiding principle: that government should not intrude on our most private family matters, and women should be able to make their own choices about their bodies and their health care.”

    Killing unborn babies is now a “family” matter.

    What an evil cockhead.

  217. kae

    Dan

    Which one is it? If you’re referring to the Peris entity, look at the dates when you click into the ABN. Down the bottom there is a list of changes submitted.

    Not sure why the three of them are still active, but it isn’t that unusual.

    It looks like the company name changed leaving out the Kneebone name, if you look at the history that will give more information.

  218. Bear Necessities

    I just saw very sad news for old Angels fans in The Australian. Chris Bailey is receiving palliative care for cancer and Doc Neeson was diagnosed with a brain tumour over Christmas.

    I remember the first Angels album I bought, I think it was “Dark Room” with Doc Neeson’s eyes piercing out on the cover. Shadow Boxer is one of my favourites from their catalogue. “Ask me questions, get no answers…..”.
    I read somewhere that they even influenced Guns and Roses who did sound checks with some of their songs. Hopefully Doc can pull through and Chris Bailey is not suffering too much.

  219. sdog

    Maybe they’ll order a police raid on the newspaper, CL, like Carpenter did in Perth.

    Nothing like putting the fear of jackboots into your local journos to keep them in line.

  220. Keith

    So, the “charity” is a sham. Thanks all.

  221. kae

    Spot
    To be eligible for charity status in Aus the organisation must prove that they are a charity. There are hoops.
    I’m pretty sure a company with shareholders wouldn’t be eligible for charitable status.

  222. Poor Old Rafe

    The joy of carbon pricing. Well done warmies!

    SWISS banking giant UBS says the European Union’s emissions trading scheme has cost the continent’s consumers $287 billion for “almost zero impact” on cutting carbon emissions, and has warned that the EU’s carbon pricing market is on the verge of a crash next year.

    Describing the EU’s ETS as having “limited benefits and embarrassing consequences”, the report said there was fading political support for the scheme, the price was too low to have any significant environmental impact and it had provided windfall profits to market participants, paid for by electricity customers.

  223. Skuter

    Memo to Shane Wand…

    The orthodox Keynesians are both loud and numerous within the economics profession. However, they may be wrong. Below is a list of reasons.

    1. The historical record does not clearly support the Keynesian view. There are many instances in which fiscal expansions did not produce economic expansions and in which fiscal contractions did not produce economic contractions. For example, see some of the literature cited in a recent article by Robert Murphy, particularly footnote 5.

    2. The macroeconometric models that are trotted out to support Keynesian policies are highly suspect. (See “The Soothsayers of Macroeconometrics.”)

    3. The Keynesian rationale for deficits would imply that when the economy is not in recession, a balanced budget or surplus is in order. However, the United States has run deficits nearly every year since the Keynesian framework was adopted in the 1960s.

    4. As is well known, the Congressional Budget Office projects increasing deficits starting in about 10 years, as the full force of Baby Boom retirements hits the budget. From there on, the CBO projects ever-widening deficits. Yet no Keynesian is coming forward to suggest that perpetual deficits are appropriate. We are not always going to be in a recession. Why is there no plan to balance the budget?

    5. Technically, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research Business Cycle Dating Committee, the most recent recession ended in June 2009. In theory, the rationale for deficit spending ended on that date as well. Of course, economic conditions today are not very satisfactory. But if it is necessary to run deficits whenever conditions are “not very satisfactory,” when will we not run deficits?

    In short, giving governments the discretion to run deficits does not work out well. In theory, government is supposed to fight recessions with deficits, which should then be replaced during normal times by balanced budgets and surpluses. In practice, deficits do not necessarily have the expansionary effects predicted, nor does deficit reduction necessarily exhibit contractionary effects.

    Moreover, in practice, deficit spending tends to become permanent, not temporary. All of the major countries that have used the Keynesian rationale to justify deficit spending are now on unsustainable fiscal paths. It is all too easy for politicians to provide current services and future promises without raising enough tax revenue to pay for them. Once they are permitted to go down this road, legislators are like drug addicts. The political pain of withdrawal (returning to budget balance) is too high.

  224. C.L.

    Incidentally, the Family ‘Court’ ‘judge’ who ruled that the Italian father was entitled to get his kidnapped daughters back forced the innocent man to undertake not to lay charges against the woman. Yes, really.

    In giving his reasons, Justice Forrest sought an assurance from the father, who was back in Italy, not to lay criminal charges now or in the future against his ex-wife “should she determine to return to Italy as I sincerely hope she does”.

    The father’s Italian-speaking lawyers stepped out of the hearing room to call the father and explain the custody deal before Justice Forrest issued the warrant to return the girls.

    Nice family you’ve got there. Shame if something was to happen to them.

  225. kae

    Endorsement to access charity tax concessions. ATO.

    Perhaps some digging around here will find out more? ACNC.

  226. Pedro

    “Seriously though, the end result of socialised care is always death panels.”

    Sure, free stuff has to be rationed. But if there was no socialised medicine then poor people would be better of because …

    Seriously, death panels are hardly a valid complaint unless your position is that the public health budget should be unlimited.

  227. Dan

    Kae,

    I noticed that. But isnt it strange for a person to go around telling everybody they have a charity (which is a Pty Ltd comapny and has no tax deductibility) and not be transparent about what is actually going on? Why, apparently, seek out good legal advice to hide your financial goings on when your running a charity? Why the change in address from the NT to the ACT if your helping remote aboriginals? Why no website apart from some half arsed blog detailing a trip to South Africa? What has she given back to the community from donations received?

    What is the motivation here? Is it all above board?

  228. Infidel Tiger

    The 60 Minutes story on those “kidnapped” girls was bizarre. The mother and grandmother should be in mental asylums.

  229. kae

    Hey, Spot…
    ACNC look up the ABN for the first listed Peris Ent. brings the result:

    “There are no records.”

  230. Pedro

    “I just saw very sad news for old Angels fans in The Australian”

    No way get fucked fuck off!

  231. Tom

    Gillard has forced the ALP national executive to hold a formal vote of confidence in her leadership:

    LABOR’S national executive has admitted Olympian Nova Peris as a member of the ALP and paved the way for her to replace Trish Crossin, who’s vowed to fight for her Senate seat.

    The executive’s decision comes despite a growing internal backlash over Julia Gillard’s plan to override Northern Territory Labor and fast-track Ms Peris to the top of the Territory ticket, instead of Senator Crossin.

    ALP national secretary George Wright said members of the ALP national executive had unanimously resolved to admit Ms Peris as a member of the Northern Territory branch and credential her to stand for preselection for the number one position on Labor’s Senate ticket in the NT.

    The executive also unanimously resolved to reopen nominations for the position until 5pm (Darwin time) next Monday and to decide the preselection by a ballot of the national executive on Tuesday if that was required.

    A defiant Senator Crossin said today she planned to fight for her seat in the Senate, despite the Prime Minister effectively dumping her and endorsing Ms Peris as her “captain’s pick”.

  232. Entropy

    The curious snail would have to be the saddest little parochial rag in the Murdoch stable ( let’s face it, the NT news is very entertaining). I sometimes suspect the CM is a mouthpiece for the AWU political arm.

    But in this case, with missing children, the judge is out of line.

  233. sdog

    To be eligible for charity status in Aus the organisation must prove that they are a charity. There are hoops.

    Yes, but it’s not very easy for the average joe to check them out, is it.

    Same with other tax-exempt orgs. Look at “our” ABC. Like America’s PBS, they are a non-profit, so anyone should be easily able to inspect their records. I can find out in about 3 clicks what Big Bird gets paid, but not Jonathan Holmes?

  234. kae

    It is possible to have a NFP (Not For Profit) organisation and not be registered as a charity or for charitable status, but it seems silly when you’re supposedly doing community work.

  235. JamesK

    The New Power Class Who Will Profit From Obama’s Second Term

    Contrary to the conservative claims of Obama’s “socialist” tendencies, the administration is quite comfortable with such capitalist sectors as entertainment, the news media and the software side of the technology industry, particularly social media. The big difference is these firms derive their fortunes not from the soil and locally crafted manufacturers, but from the manipulation of ideas, concepts and images.

    Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft are far from “the workers of the world,” but closer to modern-day robber barons. Through their own ingenuity, access to capital and often oligopolistic hold on lucrative markets, they have enjoyed one of the greatest accumulations of wealth in recent economic history, even amidst generally declining earnings, rising poverty and inequality among their fellow Americans.

    Last year the tech oligarchs emerged as major political players. Microsoft, Google and their employees were the largest private-sector donors to the president. More important still, tech workers also provided the president and his party with a unique set of digital tools that helped identify potential supporters among traditionally uninformed and disinterested voters, particularly among the young.

    An even greater beneficiary of the second term will be the administrative class, who by their nature live largely outside the market system. This group, which I call the new clerisy, is based largely in academia and the federal bureaucracy, whose numbers and distinct privileges have grown throughout the past half century.

    Interesting and well informed article.

    96% of Donations from the Ivy League Went to Obummer

    That’s a USSR-like statistic.

  236. Dan

    Every article I can find refers to it being a charity, but it is not registered on the ACNC website.

    Now, where would her interviewers get that idea? Is Nova a compulsive liar? She will fit in well with the ALP

  237. Tracey

    They were great live Pedro. I will confess that many of my lustful teenage thoughts centred on Doc Neeson.

  238. Dan

    Is Rudd going to be the numbers man?

1 2 3 4

Comments are closed.