At this rate, Gillard’s ministry will have resigned within a month. Three people in three days: McClelland, then Evans and now Roxon. Of these three, she is by far the most offensive and I’ll be glad to see the last of Ms Roxon. Who’s next I wonder? Julia Gillard is running a government as shambolic as that of her role model – Caligula.
To think that she said on 24 June 2010 when replacing Rudd that she contested the leadership
because I believed that a good government was losing its way
Now she is in charge of a bad government that lost its way.
No, Samuel. Rudd’s was a bad government that had lost its way. Gillard’s is a worse government that, given its origins, never had much way to start with.
perturbed
2 Feb 13 at 3:18 am
Gillard’s government has achieved the impossible – making Whitlam’s look good. But it’s Moonshott’s disappearance into oblivion that will give the most satisfaction. I can’t believe he will run as a candidate.
Ubique
2 Feb 13 at 3:23 am
Pass the popcorn…
murph
2 Feb 13 at 3:25 am
Duly passed. Seriously, I’m going to get up early and watch the post-mortem for this on live-stream. And I will have the popcorn ready. This is going to be nothing short of awesome.
perturbed
2 Feb 13 at 3:33 am
Peturbed I didn’t say that
Rudd and Gillard were put on this earth so that Whitlam can go to his maker knowing – without doubt – that his 1972-75 government wasn’t the worst in Australia’s history.
Samuel J
2 Feb 13 at 3:47 am
The rumor is that Mobil made Roxon an offer she couldn’t refuse… a six figure sum to mine her hair for oil.
Mason
2 Feb 13 at 4:22 am
This is what the start of a collapse looks like.
faust
2 Feb 13 at 4:37 am
Samuel, I was merely making the point that you can’t lose what you never had.
perturbed
2 Feb 13 at 5:45 am
True faust, and so, so pretty to watch.
There is much more to come – Kevni will soon enough bustle importantly to the front of the media cycle and someone, somewhere will give a media barracuda the inside story on some as yet unknown pending disaster within the Pardy.
All of this could not happen to a more worthy victim.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
2 Feb 13 at 6:07 am
One senior Labor MP told The Weekend Australian late last night that “Rome is burning”. (The Australian)
Except that Nero is making exciting new fashion decisions, not fiddling.
Turtle
2 Feb 13 at 6:12 am
Roxon’s departure must put almost unworkable pressure on Labor’s working majority in the House.
Harking back to the Windsor/Oakeshott decision making rationale, I recall a strong emphasis on the goal of stable government for the duration of the parliamentary term and that’s certainly not what we’re seeing right about now. In the interest of restoring the very same stability they deemed desirable in 2010 they should immediately withdraw from their agreement to support the Govt and allow fresh elections to provide a return to some sort of normality whatever that is these days.
Tapdog
2 Feb 13 at 6:15 am
I doubt Labor will last until September. I read some commentary in the Australian this morning where some NSW Labor guy was saying that Labor was sick. I think he was referring to NSW Labor, but honestly, the entire Labor body is fatally riddled with a corrupting cancer and Gillard is the main pustule.
God I wish a Federal Labor MP or two would just throw in the towel now and walk away from it all – I don’t know how they live with themselves, evidently their morality and decency genes must have been excised at birth. The country desperately needs a ‘do over’ and the sooner the better – waiting until September is like watching Labor dying of lung cancer coughing out bloody muck and wasting away before one’s eyes. You just long to pull the pin on them and put them out of their misery.
So to recap –
Gillard calls an election for September 14
Day 1: Thompson is arrested (150 corruption charges).
Day 2: McClelland will resign.
Day 3: Evans and Roxon will resign.
Day 4: ?
A Lurker
2 Feb 13 at 6:22 am
You just long to pull the pin on them and put them out of
theirour misery. Bugger their misery, they deserve all that they get.Biota
2 Feb 13 at 6:26 am
Does anyone know any REAL specifics of just WHY Evans and Ricola Noxious are jumping ship?
Have THEY now been caught with their hands in the till?
Are THEY about to be charged with something also?
Are THEY trying to dodge another strip-search?
Somebody had better check Noxious’s handbag before she leaves Parliament House. I suspect that many of the incriminating documents her Department “lost” concerning her fearless leader, might just be found in there.
Up to now, the “S.S. A.L.P.” has distinguished itself by being the only sinking ship which misguided rats have swum out to, and boarded (Windsock, Oafshot, and Wee Willy Wilkie), but this marks the changing of the rat tide.
Up The Workers!
2 Feb 13 at 6:29 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Roxon (at the time with Maurice Blackburn Lawyers) take on the AWU account (and files) after Gillard got boote…sorry, resigned from Slater & Gordon over the AWU-WRA affair.
Perhaps the Vic constabulary are busily beating a path to her door over matters that occurred back in the 1990′s?
A Lurker
2 Feb 13 at 6:38 am
To lose one minister might be considered an accident. To lose two looks careless.
Voting with their feet in a motion of no-confidence in the leadership. It would be nice if, on the way out the door, they reimbursed the country all the money they’ve taken under the false pretense of governing.
Keith
2 Feb 13 at 6:49 am
First, it was “ten green bottles”.
Now, another tune comes to mind.
Keith
2 Feb 13 at 6:53 am
Harry Jenkins to retire?
Dan
2 Feb 13 at 6:55 am
Let me be the first to say:
“It’s all Tony Abbott’s fault – the result of his relentless negativity”.
hahahahaha
All Abbott needs to do is stay at home with the phone off the hook for a few weeks, pretending flood damage has cut him off from the media.
boy on a bike
2 Feb 13 at 7:10 am
Just like the Matrix, only no red dress pixellating ; just the red hair
Steve of Glasshouse
2 Feb 13 at 7:11 am
It’s kinda like the boats, only in reverse.
The Old and Unimproved Dave
2 Feb 13 at 7:22 am
Karmic blowback finds the People’s Commissar for Guided Speech.
I see Orwell’s hand in this.
Alfonso
2 Feb 13 at 7:24 am
I bet that’s what Gillard wants to do.
Keith
2 Feb 13 at 7:25 am
Ah got to love the Silly. Peter Hartcher has an oped in the SMH this morning.
Not a word about Chris Evans, Roxon, Thommo, Slipper, the Obeids or Tony Sheldon’s spray.
No, its about the soft and cuddly Ruddster and the dangerous and mean AbbottAbbottAbbott, helpfully with an Abbott cartoon from Rocco.
If the world was about to end in a cloud of blue steam Mr Hartcher and the collective would be still warning of the AbbottAbbottAbbott on their deathbeds.
Who needs a McTernan when you have a whole news organisation doing this stuff for you for free?
Bruce
2 Feb 13 at 7:29 am
Just rats leaving a sinking ship.
Probably hanging around for a miracle move, the call of pm on the date ended that.
I always wouldn’t be surprised if Gillard is pushing her. Roxon is poison at the moment after her continuing and baffling push against freedom of speech while ther are so many actual crime laws that need fixing.
Mundi
2 Feb 13 at 7:40 am
She’s fast approaching that P. J. O’Rourke ideal:
lotocoti
2 Feb 13 at 7:45 am
…. and put your nuclear sunglasses on.
This is already looking like quality entertainment.
Leigh Lowe
2 Feb 13 at 7:51 am
Quite so!
There can only be two reasons. A scandal is about to break, or she thinks their election prospects are so badly screwed that it is lifeboat time.
Leigh Lowe
2 Feb 13 at 7:58 am
Brings to mind the final scene of Animal House. Not sure if I wanna be D Day in the Deathmobile…Ramming Speed!!! Or the lad reading a stick book in his bedroom when a bimbo gets launched thought the window…Thank You God!!!
Pickles
2 Feb 13 at 7:59 am
Have all my birthdays come at once? Three members of the overnment pulling the pin in three days. Monday and Tuesday should be a real blast in Labor Caucus.
Mother G
2 Feb 13 at 8:00 am
No loss, my only wish is that the rest of this bunch of circus clown would resign as well.
Muphin
2 Feb 13 at 8:05 am
Don’t discount the possibility of Julia resigning.
If the alleged facts of the alleged fraudulent witnessing of the power of attorney in Perth are accurate, police must charge.
Alfonso
2 Feb 13 at 8:11 am
Wouldn’t mind seeing the back of Pliberseck, since you are asking.
anonandon
2 Feb 13 at 8:13 am
Don’t worry, Laurie Oakes on Today tells us that this is all “normal” and nothing to do with “a government in crisis”….
MDMConnell
2 Feb 13 at 8:16 am
And needless to say, Malcolm Farr views this as a chance for Turnbull to replace Abbott as Liberal leader…….
MDMConnell
2 Feb 13 at 8:19 am
So, this is what “stable” government under a female PM looks like…
Gab
2 Feb 13 at 8:20 am
You’re a bush lawyer, nothing will come of this, and the Coalition looks shaky at 51:49 2PP with plenty of time to beat an unpopular fanatical Catholic Abbot in September. You guys are the worst psephologists on the interwebs.
.
2 Feb 13 at 8:24 am
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/clinton-resigns-as-secretary-of-state/story-e6frfkui-1226567184919
The fucking gall of some people.
.
2 Feb 13 at 8:25 am
So maybe, Gillard will lose a leadership ballot when parliament resumes, The Unions will appoint their second prime minister in 3 years. Then a big reshuffle and labor will pretend that australia has a new elected government, lots of fan fair new PM, new first family moving into the lodge, everything is ok announces new visionary plans for australia, hard decisions, right thing to do, a new australia type stuff with lots of faux relief that everything is better now. Oakeshott and Windsor continue to support them. Slush fund paying Thomson’s legal fees. Miscellaneous mp’s retire to line up government appointed jobs, no bye elections held. Lots of crap about a new start, a new leader, massive union fear campaign, and at some point before 30 november an election.
Peter
2 Feb 13 at 8:27 am
As Oakey said, it will be beautiful in its ugliness.
None come uglier than this lot.
pete m
2 Feb 13 at 8:27 am
Lu Kewen can pick them up 3 % and Labor knows it.
Alfonso
2 Feb 13 at 8:28 am
Where’s SFB to tell us
ha ha.
Gab
2 Feb 13 at 8:30 am
Peter
2 Feb 13 at 8:27 am
If TLS is ‘rolled’ Tuesday, she might spite them all and resign her seat immediately – she is that sort of low life.
Mike of Marion
2 Feb 13 at 8:41 am
Shouting a few Hurrahs here!
But a sobering thought: Just what bad laws will black widow spider Roxon inflict on us prior to September?
Jazza
2 Feb 13 at 8:42 am
SMH website still leads with a story about crime levels in Bourke.
Evans resignation is down the page.
Nothing about Roxon.
And they think people will pay to look at their website come March?
johanna
2 Feb 13 at 8:44 am
Tapdog, their only concern is that this Parliament runs out its full term, maximising their relevance and entitlements. The major downside of TLS being ousted is that we’ll then have to endure a few days of Windsor and Oakeshott reminding us that their agreement for Confidence was with Gillard and having to put up with them bignoting themselves and extracting concessions before they throw their support behind the latest driver of the Labor trainwreck.
Cold-Hands
2 Feb 13 at 8:49 am
10 Green/A.L.P. pollies sitting on a wall.
10 Green/A.L.P. pollies sitting on a wall.
And if one Green/A.L.P. pollie should criminally fall,
Then Milton Orkopoulos will have a cell-mate (and maybe 9 more)
Up The Workers!
2 Feb 13 at 8:54 am
Please God, let it be Swan…as shameful as it would be for the nation…he’d fuck up so terribly.
Albanese is another contender for the chief petard hoistee.
But of course that’s just a liberal party fantasy, Gillard is romping home on preferred PM and 2PP, there’s even time for a bounce before the full term of this Parliament ends and Gillard can cement her majority in both the House and the Senate.
.
2 Feb 13 at 8:55 am
Gillard’s government is absolute proof that truth is stranger than fiction.
And Another Thing
2 Feb 13 at 9:06 am
That’s pretty much how Pickering saw it.
Cold-Hands
2 Feb 13 at 9:11 am
Shakespeare once said: “There is a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune…”
It would seem that the A.L.P.’s tide of rats has just turned.
Previously, we had the astounding spectacle of the world’s only known instance of rats swimming out to board a sinking ship (i.e. Windsock, Oafshott and Wee Willie Wilkie boarding the sinking “S.S. A.L.P.”).
Now we see McClelland, Evans and Ricola Noxious jumping overboard. The rat tide has definitely turned.
Julia’s helmsmanship and ability rivals that of the Italian Captain of the “Costa Concordia”.
Like the “Costa Concordia”, we will all shortly be able to ogle the rusting wreck of the “S.S. A.L.P.” as it lies smashed on the rocks, sunk by stupidity, deceit and incompetence.
Think I’ll break out the champagne!
Up The Workers!
2 Feb 13 at 9:16 am
Well, yes, biota, but – entertaining and richly deserved as it would be – I worry about the amount of damage that can yet be inflicted on us, and on the whole notion of “politics” in this country.
mct
2 Feb 13 at 9:18 am
Was Roxon involved in AWU-WRA?
Econocrat
2 Feb 13 at 9:19 am
Whitlam’s dropped to fifth worst, after KRudd. There’s a universe worth of daylight between TLS and fourth position.
Megan
2 Feb 13 at 9:22 am
Nanny Roxon taking her black umbrella and floating off over the distant horizon cannot come a moment too soon for me. Nasty, stupid and incompetent – a winning trifecta. Although they seem to be the key selection criteria for this mob.
Megan
2 Feb 13 at 9:27 am
The Roxon decision is quite unexpected. If we go back to the last leadership contest there were a raft of ministers coming out and publicly shovelling the dirt on Rudd and Roxon was one of the most prominent stating that she could not possibly serve under Rudd.
Given the wild decision making by Gillard over the last week it would appear that the numbers are being crunched behind the scenes and Roxon would be well aware. This decision may be an indication that the push to change leadership is gaining momentum and that Rudd may well be considered the saviour. Swan maybe the next to shake loose if this analysis is correct.
Amortiser
2 Feb 13 at 9:29 am
None, she is resigning from cabinet and will no longer be the AG.
She is so full of herself that I find it hard to believe she just got up yesterday and decided to leave cabinet, after her gushing about how she wanted to be AG cause her specialised area was law.
Something is up.
Megan, most accurate description of Roxon that Ive ever read.
dianeh
2 Feb 13 at 9:36 am
Who is going to look after me now Nanny is gone?
H B Bear
2 Feb 13 at 9:38 am
“
NicolaeComrade Tim … do I hear the peoplecheeringjeering?”“Not yet,
ElenaComrade Dear Leader, not yet … but soon.”Septimus
2 Feb 13 at 9:54 am
The timing of her resignation seems a bit rebellious, not particularly supportive of her Party. I thought she and j.gillard were great mates.
candy
2 Feb 13 at 10:07 am
On all balance you’d have to say these are the opening salvos in a campaign to carpet bomb Gillard as leader. Kind of how Abbott resigned from shadow cabinet before the Trumbull spill.
I hope I’m wrong, I usually am in these scenarios. I want Gillard to lead them into the wilderness,madding worst-ever electoral defeat to er other dubious records.
brc
2 Feb 13 at 10:19 am
Q: What is Tony Abbott’s role in this?
A: Amused spectator.
Dysfunctional doesn’t even begin to describe the Labor party of today, filled with people who are still stuck in a student politics mindset.
James X Leftie
2 Feb 13 at 10:41 am
A bit of plagiarism here from Tim Blair’s Blog
“Ships leaving a sinking rat?“
OldOzzie
2 Feb 13 at 10:43 am
No. No. No.
This is the song about the collapse of the ALP Government….
kae
2 Feb 13 at 10:59 am
I prefer this one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjiOtouyBOg
.
2 Feb 13 at 11:11 am
Julia tells Tim his days of wine and roses are over.
Septimus
2 Feb 13 at 11:13 am
This is starting to look like the last days of the last NSW Labor Government with new Ministers being rolled in on a regular basis.
Can anyone advise, if there is a Financial Advantage in Pension Emoluments, in being rolled into a Federal Ministerial Position at this point?
OldOzzie
2 Feb 13 at 11:17 am
Mark Dreyfus is an expert in planning law.
He is an expert in economic sabotage.
.
2 Feb 13 at 11:21 am
Tim replies to Julia
Septimus
2 Feb 13 at 11:26 am
Good Lord, Roxon’s speech is longer than Oakeshott’s !
Gab
2 Feb 13 at 11:27 am
I haven’t had a fag for a month. Might suck a few down today upon news of this joyous day… With a few UDL chasers.
Infidel tiger
2 Feb 13 at 11:36 am
Hahahahahahaha!!! The transcript of this press conference farce will be memorable. Gillard says the ministry changes she’s announcing today were long planned. FMD.
Tom
2 Feb 13 at 11:41 am
As predicted, Rudd loyalist Justine Elliot has been shafted.
Yvette D’Ath has been rewarded for chairing the Privileges Committee that whitewashed Thomson when he misled Parliament.
Heigh-Ho. New personnel, same catastrophe. I wonder who’ll resign next week. Roll on the election.
Cold-Hands
2 Feb 13 at 11:51 am
Oh lord, Bowen is minister for small business now. Fuck me!
Roxon then harping on about what ‘bad’ Abbott did to the health portfolio. Did more good than you have done, stupid Roxon.
Andrew
2 Feb 13 at 12:08 pm
Why did Roxon do it now? There has to be some reason, knowing her it might not make sense but what is behind the timing!
Honesty
2 Feb 13 at 12:17 pm
Nicola Roxon
It’s good to see the back of Nicola Roxon; someone who has so ferociously attacked Australian’s right to their own opinion.
Her bleating about her wish to spend more time with her family rings hollow. That anyone who aspires to the dizzy heights of the Federal Attorney General (The Nation’s First Law Officer) is incapable of juggling that job with raising one child is evidently severely out of her depth.
Her erratic and emotional behaviour plainly demonstrates that Nicola Roxon was not temperamentally, intellectually, nor psychologically suited to that office. Nor did she have appropriate legal qualifications.
She can now relax with her family, and with her skill set perhaps take a job that she will find suitable and fulfilling; perhaps as a librarian or pre-school teacher.
Dexter Rous
2 Feb 13 at 12:19 pm
Bowen truly is a deadshit. I cannot say anything positive about him.
http://ldp.org.au/federal/policies/Bowen_PR.pdf
He is a lying c**t and probably ought to be charged for lying to Parliament.
.
2 Feb 13 at 12:19 pm
Or as a stop/go sign spinner.
.
2 Feb 13 at 12:21 pm
Just heard Chris Evans on the ALPBC describing Gillard as “… the outstanding parliamentarian of her generation.”
Bwahahahahahaha … you can’t make this stuff up.
H B Bear
2 Feb 13 at 12:22 pm
Nah, the women’s weekly needs a new misandrist journalist to write gossipy garbage every week.
Andrew
2 Feb 13 at 12:30 pm
Yeah…that misogyny speech…not embarrassing at all to look like a screeching 15 year old girl yelling at the bloke she has a crush on…
.
2 Feb 13 at 12:31 pm
Kelvin Thomson as trade minister?
Bye bye cattle trade…
Hes also a Malthusian knobwit of the first water..
Heres his “10 point plan” forwards to :30 in this vid.
This humpknuckle is trade minister?
thefrollickingmole
2 Feb 13 at 12:35 pm
Nero tried to pin the blame for the destruction of Rome on Christians – an easy target at the time. Who will Queen Juya’s target be?
Roxon’s departure is the best political news we’ve had for quite a while.
Uber
2 Feb 13 at 12:40 pm
Kelvin Thompson wants Australia’s population limited to 26 million people.
Andrew
2 Feb 13 at 12:41 pm
Is there a post-Emilys List for Emilys Listers promoted well above their talents, qualifications and abilities?
Mother Russia’s impecunious fate suggests not.
H B Bear
2 Feb 13 at 12:41 pm
No females were promoted in the cabinet reshuffle. The Feminazis at Emily’s List will have to be devastated.
Andrew
2 Feb 13 at 12:51 pm
Who next? What excuse?
stackja
2 Feb 13 at 1:00 pm
Have any” journalists ” asked Mz Gillard these questions ?
She has 12 months notice apparently.
jumpnmcar
2 Feb 13 at 1:05 pm
Just saw this on da Internetz – I’m a bit slow on the uptake. Good riddance to bad rubbish, especially Nanny Roxon.
The next 8 months will be entertaining, though hopefully Shagger goes bankrupt trying to defend the criminal charges or something, because who knows what this mendacious rabble will take out on their way down.
papachango
2 Feb 13 at 1:36 pm
Keith,
The correct clip is this one, aka Intellectual Property Rights.
When Imperial Tobacco work out that the Aboriginal directed, tax payer funded industry of ‘research’ was conducted on a distorted timeline; on ever burning tailormade cigarettes which can not easily hidden in a bra, in a pocket, the fine cut emptied from the tin and packaged into hideable quantities or (rollies) shorted so easily,…. they will not be happy that such an abuse of cultural commodification took place.
Log cabin tobacco is now unavailable in remote Austraia. ?Tin or label was 2mm over the government decreed regulation. So Winfield Red and so on is the tobacco of sell. Perhaps the tins will be exported to Taliban Afghanistan as a tradeable commodity?
Good riddance to lawyers that trained in the affairs of unions. No mention of Mr Shorten as yet and the lack of detail on the NDIS?
Jessie
2 Feb 13 at 1:39 pm
@ Dexter Rous
If there is a heirarchy amongst teachers, pre-school teachers would be at the top.
Everything essential to quality of life is learned in the first five years….
1735099
2 Feb 13 at 1:45 pm
Yea right.
Only at a school where you are on staff.
jupes
2 Feb 13 at 1:56 pm
By all accounts Y’vette D’arth will also be going as she is sitting on a margin of 4.5%.
Dan
2 Feb 13 at 2:27 pm
Well thank fuck that sociopathic communist cnuts like you and your ilk don’t get their hands on ‘em until they’re six!
Huckleberry Chunkwot
2 Feb 13 at 2:50 pm
Roxon has been Attorney General for less than 13 months.
The statement that Gillard has known about Roxon’s intention to resign for 12 months does not add up, and obviously not the truth.
I thought Gillard looked rattled today, maybe it was an act, maybe not.
Good riddance to Evans and Roxon.
Peter
2 Feb 13 at 2:54 pm
So parents and child care workers that deal with 0-5 year olds, have more worth than principles and uni professors.
I agree with 6060842
jumpnmcar
2 Feb 13 at 2:54 pm
The importance of those first few years was the prime reason we decided that one of us would stay home with the kids while the other worked. Whoever earned the most (me in this case) was the breadwinner for that period of time.
tbh
2 Feb 13 at 3:12 pm
Anyway, back on topic: good riddance to that statist harridan. Worst AG ever.
tbh
2 Feb 13 at 3:18 pm
“If there is a heirarchy amongst teachers, pre-school teachers would be at the top”
I don’t think so, Grades 1 to 3 set them up. A good teacher there is invaluable, but preschool is more about socialisation and fun, it’s not rocket science to look after those little ones properly.
candy
2 Feb 13 at 3:34 pm
No, Turtle (6:12 am), we passed the ‘Rome burning’ point long ago.
We’re in Hitler-meme territory now.
Philippa Martyr
2 Feb 13 at 4:04 pm
@Frollicking Mole: Thanks for that video.
To be kind to Kelvin Thomson: Thinking is beyond him.
To be middle of the road about him: He’s a dickhead.
God help us if that crazy is allowed near any decision making.
Steve at the Pub
2 Feb 13 at 4:15 pm
Just saw the new AG applauding Roxon’s legacy of the plain packaging for ciggies. No doubt he’ll want to go cirrhosis and bowel cancer on wine bottles next.
Abu Chowdah
2 Feb 13 at 4:19 pm
Yes, I did too. She knows the end is nigh.
Septimus
2 Feb 13 at 4:24 pm
It’s just like mr Miyagi said in the Karate Kid: ‘Rox on – Rox off’.
John Comnenus
2 Feb 13 at 4:53 pm
Steve at the Pub
If you can stomach it, read his maiden speech to parliment..
Hes about as green as Bob brown.
Oh and heres his unvarnished opimion on free trade..
I also strongly support the inclusion of a social clause in the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. If you look at the way the modern world economy is structured you will see that we will need to either lower our standards or raise everybody else’s. I do not know what the coalition’s position is, but my position is that we need to raise everybody else’s. Therefore I strongly support the inclu sion of a social clause in the GATT which will incorporate the relevant ILO conventions.
In the area of consumer affairs, we need to do more to prevent people from being ripped off by shonks and charlatans. I was going to say this anyway but, following the tragedy in Port Arthur this week, it scarcely needs to be said: our society is simply too violent. We need to address the causes of this—inadequate firearm controls and too ready access to guns, violent videos, violence on TV.
Green, gun grabbing economic illiterate, what could go wrong?
thefrollickingmole
2 Feb 13 at 6:24 pm
How safe the consulship for Senator Incitatus?
Leo G
2 Feb 13 at 7:26 pm