Of course, James’ greatest contribution was this:
JAMES PATERSON: And so, thank you, Corinne, for that excellent suggestion. But I have to take exception to one thing that Senator Evans said and that is that we can take applause on Q&A as a representative sample of the Australian population. I suspect if the Labor Government is using that instead of real polls maybe that is why they’re in such a bad state.
James Paterson is very impressive isn’t he?
That’s EXACTLY her problem. My friends cant understand how someone like Abbott would win as their entire exposure to politics is filtered through the ABC
His weekly email from the IPA lair is great.
Corinne Grant is an offensive beast. I look forward to suing her vexatiously until she withdraws from life in despair.
There was the other bit where he caught out their hypocrisy after they criticized Abbott for not appearing on breakfast television. They want serious political debate?
Impressive enough to shut up the usual sneering suspects on the panel, at least momentarily. A feat in itself.
It is about time someone youngish, and someone worth listening to, put a spoke into these people’s wheel. There should be more of it – to change metaphor, it is good to see them punctured in their self-delusional bubble by James and his powerful debating skills. Encore and bravo!
An impressive young man.
Get a load of fatty jones facial expression when James suggests that the law could help him take a case to court for offending his political views.
…
It’s like..” oh shit, how the fuck do I keep doing what I’ve done in the past if that law is passed”.
No way, Snow Cone would be a big fan of the law.
What he’d be thinking about is how to get the ABC to get the same exemption as all lefty politicians will receive.
A KKK member will be offended when people tell them that black people and white people are equal.
A free speech supporter will be offended when you tell them that offending speech should be an offence.
Can’t offend people… they really thought that one through.
Shouldn’t he actually DO something first before becoming a political animal.
I am not fond of the system where by lefties go from student politics to working in minister’s offices or advocacy groups – I think it creates stunted individuals. Why is it any better on the right?
I think left or right they just get their views formed in very small shrill echo chambers.
He has hit the nail on the head on what should be a Liberal strategists dream. The ALP care about that applause which can be a wedge to drive them into uncomfortable positions which enough people disagree with to put their vote under pressure.
CORINNE GRANT: I was being a smart arse.
No, luvvie, there’s nothing smart about you.
The shit-eating grin on Corrine Grant’s face is a sight to behold at the end; a fitting combination of cluelessness and condescension.
Blam! kapow!
I think this comment from James was the best reply.
To dumb that down for the Bogans it would be like a commission sales rep relying solely on an annual sales bonus to pay for three years worth of private health care or private school fees for their kids.
While I’d choose James any day over the rest of them, Brandis’ comment about “James adovcating Chinese government policy” was quite funny
Delusional.
Its not just the Today Show, but Lateline, AM, 7:30 report, PM. As a regular Radio National listener I am like a man wandering in desert thirsting for a few drops of Abbott’s dulcet tones.
It might be good strategy – I don’t know – I won’t vote for him anyway, so its reasonable to restrict his media appearances to friendly hosts and receptive audiences.
But the idea that response is Blam! kapow just shows out of touch and marginalised this online community is. A Qanda audience is far closer representation of mainstream audience than here.
James would make an excellent PM.
Q&A is an echo chamber for lefties but for someone like JP it’s a barrel full of fish.
You’d better send a note to Swan too.
That’d be one of the reasons Abbott won’t go on the ABC, most people who watch/listen to that dribble won’t vote for him anayway
Shut up greys.
You’re not interested in Abbott’s views. You’re just hoping he fucks up.
You pervert.
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If thats the case then we don’t need to be forced to pay for it, do we!
The ALPBC could be defunded and sold by the end of October.
To be honest, I don’t care who wins the election.
How many times has the PM gone on The Bolt Report? For that matter, how many current ALP MP’s have gone on the Bolt Report?
Hypocrisy, thy name is leftard.
That last shot made me despair.. The look on her face was non-comprehension.
The process is 3/4 of the punishment.
It would be nice to say to her, “right book all your holidays for the next 3 weeks, set aside $5,000 for a lawyer and be prepared to lose, as they dont have to prove anything”…
And see how blank she looks then.
Some ABC personalities actively try to demean Mr Abbott, perhaps he feels its serves no good to anyone appearing.
Just like the barry army doesn’t care who wins the ashes up until England is in with a sniff.
Abbott can go on the ABC when Gillard fronts the bolt report.
That’s the point. Useless idiots like Grant think they are on the side of the angels. She fails to realize at as a comedy practitioner, she could easily find herself defending ‘vexatious’ claims brought about from something she tweeted or said, bewildered why her defense of ‘it was only a joke’ still cost her 20 large in legal fees.
Considering the audience share of the Bolt Report consists of his mother and few people staggering in off their heads on pills seeking something to chill out to, is that surprising?
Admittedly Australia has turned into a country full of hairy homosexual hippies who pine for a North Korean style existence, but I still say the QANDA audience is on the fringe.
Imagine you wanted to join the Q&A studio audience. In the form you’re asked to tell them where you stand politically.
Now you happen to be a typical inner city lefty, and you ask yourself a question (HT@ Dirty Harry): which persuasion is more likely to get me on the show? You know that Q&A is a favourite of lefties and that the producers would like to show a balanced audience, so for you ticking Lab/Green is less likely to get you on.
Also being an ABC luvvie you’d like those figures to look more balanced so you can tell those Andrew Bolt fans that it is balanced.
Tick Liberal and kill two birds with one stone.
Last I saw, in terms of viewer numbers, the Bolt Report ran rings around that silly ABc show on Sunday mornings
I like the cut of that young man’s jib. Like I said last night on the OT, he was pitying fools in a way that only Mr T can rival.
Yet it out rated Insiders consistently over the year.
Note: when confronted with reality that you don’t like, you resort to abuse and name calling.
Funny that.
The bolt report has started to regularly outdo insiders for Sunday political shows. It certainly outranks is siter show meet the press.
If it is ratings you want to measure by, then the pm not going on the show is crazy.
I now wish I’d actually watched that episode of Q&A:
Grey makes shitfer resemble Einstein.
Bolts ratings easily beat the swill served up on the ABC.
QandA audience is representative? And they say we’re short of comedians in this country – you’re joke a sick joke, Grey.
And fuck off that you don’t care who wins the election! You’ll be voting Tubbsy Milne with a preference to the Lying Slapper, desperately hoping that Abbott doesn’t get in. All because thats the kind of despicable twat you are.
No doubt grey has been in on the bolt columns asking for Craig Emerson to retract his statement regarding temp rise, and posting that black is white. I even saw one comment there insisting that there is a difference between no warming and no statistically significant warming as some type of gotcha.
These days, the only warmes left fighting the fight are uneducated fools, it’s like the Germans drafting school kids at the end of the war.
I think it gets about 130-140 000 viewers in its two time slots – thats close to the equivalent of the donkey vote – people who have the TV on all the time.
Insiders usually wins the morning slot comfortably – and these are people who overwhelmingly have just turned on the TV to watch it.
Pfft! You guys turn on a tsunami of abuse and name calling all the time. I have never come across such a collection of potty mouths anywhere else on the net.
See, that’s your problem right there, you don’t think.
Which means it’s getting far more than insiders over two viewings and this doesn’t include the people, like myself, who watch it online in the evening when Bolt posts youtube links on his blog.
Face it, you got caught out and now you are making a fool of yourself.
Until Gillard goes on The Bolt Report, complaining about Abbott not fronting up for a luvvie interregation is pure childish hypocrisy.
1. We don’t give a shit what you have experienced elsewhere or here
2. Here’s your hat, be sure to let the door hit you on the arse on your way out.
Its going to an interesting campaign
Gillard: AM, PM, Lateline, 7:30 report, Insiders, SBS, Today Show, A Current Affair, Today Tonight
Abbott: The Bolt Report.
LOL.
The stacked audience of tax eating public servants, students & lefty advocates is more representative than the wide range of careers found here.
Grey.
Apparently your facts arent the same as real world ones, which do you think might be wrong??
In 2011 ratings for the show declined to 136,000 viewers for the third episode and 131,000 for the encore. This compared to 207,000 for Insiders.[5] For the remainder of 2011 The Bolt Report remained at the bottom of the free-to-air ratings for its timeslot.[6] This contrasted with The Bolt Report’s 2012 ratings share which regularly exceeded that of Insiders[
(Wiki, that uses Crikey as its source)
Changed tack now grey?
At this point in a thread, it’s customary for a ridiculed idiot to just give up.
But no, you now insist that Abbott won’t go on any other tv now, for the entire election. What a sharp intellect we have working here.
Please put your back into the trolling and give it some real effort, or pass the baton onto someone else who can form a coherent argument.
55:45, it sure is.
Gillard can go on TV 24/7 if she wants to. She could do 1000 interviews during this campaign it won’t make a difference, nobody is listening to her.
lol even WA Labor doesn’t want gillard anywhere near the state before the march election. Was the same for QLD, NSW and the ACT.
Not on the competing morning time slots. The Bolt report is just collecting a donkey vote by having a later afternoon repeat.
Gillard: AM, PM, Lateline, 7:30 report, Insiders, SBS, Today Show, A Current Affair, Today Tonight,
Crime Investigation AustraliaGrey, The Bolt Report was flogging Insiders harder than a Craig Thomson purchased hooker by the end of 2012.
So is it attracting more viewers or not?
The ABC had its stuff online as well.
Or are the same people watching the show twice?
Heres a hint, Every time the PM comes on TV she loses more votes, she is the equivalent of the “dead skunk in the middle of the road”, she stinks on ice, her reputation is rightfully crap and her own party are in despair.
How long before Grey switches from “I Don’t Care Who Wins” to “A Pox on Both Their Houses”?
It is the traditional path of the troll as they descend into madness.
Grey’s right: in the interest of balance I want to see Tony Abbott go on various television shows and read scripted answers which avoid the questions put to him too.
Yet he also runs a blog that gets over 2m hits a month.
Funny how reality just doesn’t give a shit how stupid your views are?
As BRC said, normally after a flogging like this most people would run away, yet you keep coming. Lol…
Well there’s your problem right there. The only time Craig Thomson ever slept with a hooker was when he was student and after a particular hard drinking session he accidentally pulled the President of the UNSW branch of the Young Liberals.
All those other hookers only exist in your fervid imagination.
This would suggest that the Bolt Report is beating Insiders in the AM timeslot too:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/thanks_again4/
I don’t even watch, but then again I don’t watch Insiders either. I’m too busy having brunch with the family and enjoying life on a Sunday morning.
Grey, don’t stop but I’ve got to get some more popcorn. brb.
The joke is on you! At the start of the show, they showed the percentage of voters for the major parties, and the Coalition vote was higher than the ALP. That audience last night probably was typical of Australia.
Good boy. Roll over, lick your balls and you can have a chocolate.
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Tell us again about your JFK conspiracy theories. See if you can combine your thompson hooker theory and the JFK one.
I dare ya.
Thank you Nuke Gray. Finally someone talking sense.
Actually I thought it might be interesting to compare the CVs of the various panellists.
1. Chris Evans – 20 years as a Senator, 5 years as a minister.
2. George Brandis – highly credentialed barrister and some years as a Senator
3. Corinne Grant – author, actor and stand-up comic
4. Rachel Botsman – Oxford, Harvard, author and highly regarded speaker, founder of Collaborative Lab.
And then – drum roll –
James Patterson
Which of the panelists has NOT managed to establish themselves in anything aside from offering political opinion?
Corinne Grant?
We send them all madder you know.
They generally skulk out of here thoroughly beaten and clinically depressed.
Minnesota Fats and Stepords are two of the many examples.
Oh Nuke Gray, you’re so cute.
LOL.
You can tell Nuke Grey still believes in the tooth fairy, believed Wayne Swan when he stated he will deliver a surplus this year and the MRRT would collect the projected tax.
So how does the ABC verify that #? It is as reliable as an poll on a newspage on the internet.
She probably works in the most competitive cut-throat career of them all.
Chris Evans – 20 years as a Senator, 5 years as a minister.
This guy, lol.
Snowcone?
He went to uni with my kid, which puts him in his early to mid twenties, you fucking imbecile. He hasn’t had time, which is all on his side.
Here’s bet, Greys, you pervert. I bet he won’t be peddling conspiracy theories in his mid 50′s and living a lonely existence like you, you imbecile.
1995 La Trobe Student Union president leading the Labor & Socialist ticket.
Strangely she doesn’t include that on her CV any more.
Tony Jones?
I know he is not a panelist but then he is not even a moderator, more of an Agent provocateur
Patterson was excellent. Should run for public office. Not only is his intelligence quite high but he is a very sharp debater.
His line about Qanda audience and Labor was one of the best moments ever on the show.
But there were around 15% Greens too. The Labor/Greens coalition vote was much higher than the Lib/NP vote.
Not really representative of Australia at all. In fact, it’s out by about 20 percentage points.
Test?
In mod for what?
“I think it gets about 130-140 000 viewers in its two time slots – thats close to the equivalent of the donkey vote – people who have the TV on all the time.
Insiders usually wins the morning slot comfortably”
Not any more Insiders doesn’t – Bolt outrates Insiders, and has been for months now @Grey
Talentless shrieking harpy is not a career. Except maybe on the public teat.
You are a numpty. I guess when Gillard says “There will be no carbon tax” you believe her. Please explain why every time a lefty panelist made a point, it met applause and when Brandis or Patterson made a point, it met either silence or boos?
That is if you can believe even the 43% coalition audience were really conservative voters. I suspect even this figure is optimistic if you applied a clapometer everytime a leftard panelist makes a turgid point.
How many times do we have to go through this?
When they go head to head in the Sunday Morning time slot (or an hour apart), Insiders wins comfortably.
Grey, no it doesn’t. You are wrong.
Yes it does, I am right
I see how the game is played! If the ABC don’t give any audience figures, then claim they’ve got something to hide. If they do, claim the figures are probably false. No matter what they do, paint them as cheats! And here I was deluded into believing that YOU were trying to be impartial!
There’s no point replying to him, tbh. He’s like Swan when it comes to numbers and math.
It seems that way, Gab. I don’t normally feed trolls but I couldn’t help myself this time. Won’t happen again!
Why would anyone be impartial about the abc since the abc is not impartial?
If anything, the later the morning goes by, there should theoretically be less viewers. More people will be away from their houses as time goes by in the morning because they are meeting people, playing sport, etc.
Translation: Whoops, I have just realized I am wrong, but my personality is too stunted to admit that in public.
Grey and Nuke Gray, you can tell when the Q&A audience isn’t stacked with lefties; it’s when they hit the road and host it at an area not chock full of lefties e.g. Broome, Perth, even Dandenong which was different to say the least.
“Graham Richardson on Ben Fordham’s show this afternoon said Kevin Rudd could have the numbers to topple Gillard by the end of next month.”
Nooooooooo. I want her to go to the election and see her go down like the Titanic.
“Which of the panelists has NOT managed to establish themselves in anything aside from offering political opinion?”
Well Chris Evans to begin with obviously, plus James Patterson.
Corinne Grant’s greatest he greatest claims to fame were appearing on political comedy shows on the ABC which basically just bag Howard, Abbott etc – so maybe give her half a point for when GNW went to Ch10
Rachel Botsman – well Collaborative Lab isn’t really ‘established’ and she seemed pretty political, but Ok we’ll give her and Brandis as having “scored runs outside of politics”.
You have highlighted a valid point though Grey – look at the ALP front bench, under Rudd (haven’t seen any up to date figures) they only had 13 years of private sector experience collectively, and 11 of those years were Gillard at Slater and Gordon doing employment law for unions.
No wonder their business policies are so out of touch…
I doubt she’ll go down on the Titanic unless it’s married with kids or can advance her career.
hahahahahaha.
“How many times do we have to go through this?”
Obviously once more Grey because you still don’t get it
“[Bolt's] program has so far averaged in 2012 a total of 272,000 people in both screenings…Insiders total Sunday audience (in three screenings) has fallen to 261,000 this year.”
(as at Nov 2012)
So Insiders is on three times Grey, and still gets beaten on ratings by Bolt.
So ugh you now agree this statement is correct?
I accept your concession with my trademark good grace.
Hey Gab, you were being far too polite offering Grey his hat on the way out. Only someone with a beautiful soul hidden behind that gurning homely visage could be so thoughtful.
I would have jumped on it.
I would have jumped on it.
That’s a death threat in lefty boing-boing world.
Joe, it’s time to dust off the mobile suicide watch van
From Crikey no less…….. (sorry an old browser and I don’t get the block quote symbols)
“With only an couple of episodes to go to the end the 2012 TV ratings season, right-wing ranter Andrew Bolt has had a good year. Oztam figures up to last Sunday show there has been a 11%-plus rise in viewing of his program on Sundays (the 10am broadcast and then the 4.30pm repeat) in metro markets. He’s done better this year than Insiders, where he used to feature before he was seduced by Ten to star in The Bolt Report.
His program has so far averaged in 2012 a total of 272,000 people in both screenings, up from the 258,000 who watched in 2011, when the program started. The 10am program has seen a near 12% rise in viewers, to 143,000 from 128,000, while there has been a slight fall in the audience for the 4.30pm repeat to 129,000 from 130,000. Insiders total Sunday audience (in three screenings) has fallen to 261,000 this year from 267,000 in 2011.
Bolt now attracts more viewers in total than Insiders on ABC TV does. Insiders’ ABC1 audience from 9 to 10am has fallen 11.7% to 173,000 this year (still well ahead of Bolt) from 195,000 in 2011. The News 24 simulcast audience is up more than 21% to 56,000 from 46,000 and the evening repeat on News 24 has up more than 27% to 32,000 from 26,000. On several occasions in the past three months, Bolt’s 10am audience has exceeded that of Insiders which has fallen into a bit of trough since midyear.”
Confirmation Grey, if any was needed, that you are a lying fuckhwit.
FUCKWIT…… damn fingers!
Anyone disagreeing with this
Going, going…..
The moment TLS thinks there might be a challenge she will hot foot it to the GG. Under no circumstances will she allow whet she did to Rudd to be done to her. The humiliation….She WILL go to the next election as PM, her arrogance and hubris demand it. YOu will get your pleasure Gab.
When my aunty has balls, I shall call her my uncle.
Insiders is broadcast nationally at the same time.
The Bolt Report is broadcast in two halves, because not all areas get the morning version. To work out a national audience, you need to aggregate the two.
But compare apples to oranges all you like.
BRC wins the award for the most numerical advanced Catallaxian.
Well done, sir. I would like to say you faced a lot of competition, but sadly we both now that would not be true.
Grey, how about instead of arguing by assertion, you provide some evidence and links to back it up?
Thanks
If that was an effort at an insult, I’m insulted.
Not because the words were stinging, but because they were so poor. I expect people taking the time to insult me to spend some time thinking about it.
Yes, properly insulting insults really dredge character.
Abu and James show how it is done. Check out the religion thread.
Not at all, you were hands down winner of the most numerical literate Catallaxian category.
You were only person able to figure this was correct
Congratulations.
We are not going off-thread here with insults, btw.
Note the hash tag on Sinc’s clip: one man’s description is another man’s insult. Free speech is unfortunately free.
I’d drop the ‘unfortunately’. It’s a very good thing.
As a crusty old ancient historian I once met used to say: “one man’s Mead is another man’s Persian”.
No facts to back up your assertions yet Grey?
Just watched that Q&A.
Will not watch another for years. The stench of the leftist love fest will take that long to clear from my clothes.
The joke is on you! At the start of the show, they showed the percentage of voters for the major parties, and the Coalition vote was higher than the ALP.
At current polls, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Coalition was leading even amongst a randomly selected group of lefties. At least they have the ability to be competent socialists.
Grey ” As a regular Radio National listener..snip ”
They have a cure for that now…
Jeez mate, you are stuck in your own version of the matrix..Take the blue pill
That’s it Grey? That’s the best you can do? “Insiders is watched by more viewers that TBR in one time slot, so there!”
You know, if we polled only the voters in TLS’ electorate, the ALP would look really good, wouldn’t it? Just keep narrowing the sample until you get the result that you want. Not exactly dishonest, just selective. Pathetic.
If you’re going to derail a thread about Patterson’s performance on Q&A (which was impressive whether or not you agree with his points) you really need to try harder. Talking deceptively about relative audiences between TBR and insiders is so irrelevant it’s funny; and just makes you look desperate
Hmmm
Here in Canberra, Bolt is only on at 4.30. What brc says is correct!
Comparing timeslots is inaccurate as the bolt report isn’t shown everywhere on Sunday morning. Country viewers can only watch the afternoon show.
So I repeat, grey is a lying fuckwit.
I thought I would check to see if the Bolt Report is shown in the morning in Canberra or not.
It doesn’t seem to be on anywhere around the country at the moment and all Channel 10 has is this:
So Julia Gillard is ducking an interview on a program that has been mothballed.
Greys you twit. It hasn’t been mothballed at all. The program guide you’re gawking hasn’t updated Sunday morning’s programing yet.
You ought to be mothballed, you contemptible twit.
Gawd, you’re hopeless Grey!
Bolt has said he’ll be back on 3rd March.
I’ll take your word for it, eb, at any events Channel 10 is rushing to get such prime rating material back on the air.
And I love the way JC just opens his mouth and says whatever little thought bubble forces its way into his pretty little head first.
I don’t watch the program, you mental deficient. My assumption was more likely than your stupid idea that it has been mothballed.
Lawrence Krauss is on Q and A next week. His latest book “something from nothing” explains the beginning of the universe without the need for god. Sinc, should we submit a question?
BTW Emo v Bolt on 2GB how to argue by answering the question with an answer to a different question. Boy is he annoying!
Grey, on the Phil Jones Test 2013 thread you will no doubt be pleased that your fellow AGW catastrophicist sillyfilly concedes in his words, “the planet is still warming but not significantly since 1995″. Thus confirming Sinclair’s analysis. You contested this, in words of course, nothing analytical or numerical. Now is the time for you to debunk both Sinclair and sillyfilly.
Describe your model to us, test its validity, state your hypothesis and test it, present your results. I’m sure you can do that. Otherwise people here might get the impression that you are a wannabe and an ignorant, innumerate shit for brains.
Go easy on Grey, people! Like most leftists, he suffers from a delusion that John Howard is still Prime Minister and that George W Bush is still the President of the USA!
Why?
Grey, you pea-brained intellect, what I said was that Bolt is shown at two different timeslots depending on capital city vs regional.
In order to get the National viewing, you have to add both together.
Insiders goes National because the ABC is national, and it shows at the same time.
Using your logic I could claim TBR beats Insiders because in QLD insiders is shown an hour later. Ratings only matters in a single timeslot, right?
Why you have spent so much time on an irrelevant point when you are clearly wrong, and have shown to be by many people, is something only a fellow conspiracy theorist could provide.
For the record, JC is funny and you aren’t even funny to laugh at.
It’s nice that Grey turns up to express his opinions, that’s always a good thing i reckon, to hear the other side of matters.
Absent foul abuse on his part, Grey has given as good as he got from the usual defenders of the Catallaxy line. The issue of whether Insiders attracts more viewers than Bolt is not of much moment, but it has excited these combatants. At one point, Grey observed that he had never come across such a collection of potty mouths anywhere else on the net. Without doubt, foul abuse is constantly employed by many of the usual defenders. I complained of this a few weeks ago, and invited Sinclair Davidson, the owner of this blog space, to call a halt to this practice. He declined, and referred me to his ‘Blogging as a fine art’. It is his space, and respecting his property I desisted from further complaint, but noting that the degree and spread of the foul abuse directed at Grey, I offer some comment.
(1) Sinclair’s guiding principle is that “[y]ou shouldn’t say something on a blog that you wouldn’t say in someone’s lounge”. Fair enough, but how does this permit foul abuse? (2) I suppose Sinclair appreciates that seriously defamatory comments are made frequently, and that he is at risk of being mulcted in heavy damages. Contempt of court is also quite common. (3) JC, at 4.59, made it clear that his object is to cause those such as Grey to cease making comment. Sinclair encourages commentators to be “vicious to trolls”, but does he think it consistent with libertarian values that speech by ‘trolls’ should be suppressed by abuse. Of course, he can, as the owner of this private property, exclude whoever he wishes.
Rafiki is obviously assembling his complaint submission against the Cat for when the Finkelstien laws come into play.
My apologies to your sensitivities rafiki.
“Grey is an innumerste wannabe”. Does that pass muster or should I go for another softer rewrite. I’d hate to offend anyone.
rafiki – I am not a fan of banning people and do so with great reluctance. I have unbanned people after popular outcry.
When I see defamatory comments I edit them, when defamatory comments are drawn to to my attention I edit them. No doubt many comments escape my attention. If anyone thinks that they have been defamed they are free to email me to remove the comments. This does happen and has happened. Mind you, I do not remove comments that I think are fair comment.
I have no sympathy for trolls but I do cut more slack for those individuals who comment under their real names than those who use pseudonyms.
I see no reason why the Cat should be a safe haven for lefties – if they want a ‘safe’ environment to peddle their ideas I suggest they go to the $1 billion taxpayer funded ABC to do so. But for people who subscribe to an ideology that murdered 100 million people in the 20th century they’re going to get no slack here.
rafiki – let me add this – I am not going to be murdered by the state or its apologists. None of my relatives or friends are going to be murdered by the state or its apologists either.
Especially an anonymous commenter. Imagine how distressing it must be for someone who uses their real name.
No Gab, I am not. I have an aversion to nanny state controllers. Sinclair might say that I am a social democrat who is “simply not used to being challenged by articulate, educated and intelligent individuals” (Blogging as a fine art). Do you reckon you are one such? If so, let’s hear some reasoned argument.
For the record, I’d be happy to repeat my call of ‘pea-brained intellect in my loungeroom’.
I’ve certainly said worse to those pushing the lefty line in the past. Just the other day I called a friend a naive, brainwashed simpleton when he tried to tell me the US was too dangerous to live in because of all the guns.
Okay, what would you like to argue over, rafiki?
rafiki – stand your ground. Argue your views like Grey, or m0nty – tell those who would silence you to ‘fuck off’ but don’t whinge.
OK Sinclair. This blog is your private property (your words) and I’ll back off. I will still read the lead comments – they do, in Oakshottian terms, make a valuable contribution to the conversation.
Just this. On your invitation, I read your ‘Blogging as a fine art’ and ‘Trolls’. With unfeigned respect, I feel that you have not thought through a position on the use of foul abuse.
rafiki – I differentiate between the posts and the threads. You should too. If the threadsters think that you, or anyone else, is full of shit then that is something for you (or whoever else) to reflect upon. If you think that they are full shit let them know. Anything less than a frank exchange of views is somewhat dishonest.
Gab: respond to points (1) and (3) in my post above. It is that post that you sought to ridicule.
And that’s it for me.
nah, I don’t respond to orders from strange strangers on the web.
Bye-bye.
rafiki, don’t take it so personal. I learned quickly that vigorous debate is natural on here.
Rafiki, some lounge rooms encompass more robust discussion than others. Join da Hairy Irish Ape and certain old leftie friends of Lizzie chez nous some day when the Guiness is flowing. Live with it. So that is your point one.
Rafiki, you have called me an ‘airhead’ on this blog previously, and were particularly scathing of both my lifestyle (which you both doubted and actually misinterpreted) and my intellect (ditto). I suggested to you a number of very reasonable topics for discussion in which you could demonstrate your superior capacities to any of mine, topics which you neglected to address. For example, historical arguments concerning Late Antiquity and the Fall of Rome was one area I thought worthy of your intellectual consideration as well as mine, as you appeared to claim that I had never read any book of substance. So, on your point three, that is quite enough from you as far as I am concerned.
You can dish out the abuse with the best of them. And to a lady too!!
Forsooth, Sirrah. For shame.
Oh dear, sad..
Andrew, do check up on adverbs and adjectives.
Timely and appropriate
“It shows average audiences for 7.30 and Four Corners were down 3 per cent over 2011-12 as Foreign Correspondent fell 6 per cent, the main 7pm news bulletin 8 per cent and Insiders a massive 14 per cent. The briefing notes add that while audiences for news and current affairs have fallen on ABC1, they have increased for the digital News 24 network.”
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/viewers-turning-off-abc1-just-ask-the-insiders/story-e6frea6u-1226576585548
And if you want a giggle, go read this thread on “Our ABC” where the vast majority of opinion believe that David Marr and Lenore Taylor are polite, whilst Bolt and Ackermann are rude and speak over the other guests and should be removed. What world do these people live in ?
http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Message.aspx?b=81&m=86212&ps=50&dm=1&pd=3
ABC people are just so much better than the rest of us, and the transcribers are so literate. Gillard’s deposing of Rudd, for instance, was a“midnight coo”.
in the Gillard context, that is an image that stains the mind.
To distract my mind from that vision-awful I’ll note that 7pm-ish is the new midnight.
I recall the time ‘cos TheirABC was pouting that night when no-one alerted them that it was on, and commercial TV news got to break the story.
Via comment at AB site…
Corinne Grant, assistant speechwriter hack for Gillard
I could care less I spelt her name incorrectly
Seems SBS would be in trouble with Herr Roxon’s legislation if it had been passed:
I’m sure the management of SBS will be out thanking James for standing up for their rights any time now…
It was a typo.
MGC, ABC has been pipped at the post on many big stories.
The most egregious one being how ABC24 missed the Japanese Tsunami for almost an entire day because it was a weekend. Instead they ran reruns and promo ads carping how up to date they were with News 24/7.
“He’s like Swan when it comes to numbers and math.”
This is utterly wrong. It’s ‘maths’:-) Math is obviously short for ‘mathematic’, whatever that is.
rafiki, they automatically fall back on abuse when they are losing an argument and no longer want to engage on an issue. It doesn’t matter whether the critique offered comes from a social democrat or a liberal conservative.
Leftists censor, libertarians just shrilly abuse people until they give up and go away. A good proportion of the libertarians I know are unbearable assholes.
A small group of doctrinaire ideologues who wall them off from the rest of society are never going to amount to much and haven’t.
… are never going to amount to much [impact] and haven’t.
Delete that last “correction”.
Wow, this is turning into a therapy thread.
New Gold Dream has beclowned himself many a time by not knowing the difference between a libertarian and a libertine. He also seems to have a had a traumatic experiencing with a lady that has made him as bitter and twisted as an old lesbian aunt.
QED.
You have no idea how boring you are.
Grey …
well said
The professionalization of politics is a problem to “some” degree
Tim Wilson is the first of a generation to fit into that mould and status amongst many others.
His snottiness demonstrates that quite well and they can solely focus on being political and are great for corporations.
The Australian has written about this in the last two years…
There are advantages and disadvantages and Amanda Vandstone has discussed this at length within the media
No life skills amongst many other problems…
The professional politician is more prevalent amongst gen y and the major parties now.
Ah, one of those. A thousand pardons, Andrew, I had thought it was merely the contemporary education of yoof, you being a teenager I gather. Self-education was my mainstay, and I was merely passing on the baton, not being a schoolmarm, which role would not really suit me. Just ask Rafiki. My fingernails would be far too long and polished for that and I am so insubstantial in this faded pageant that I might float away on a mere zephyr.
Costello- often appears on Bolt, he gave us surplus, a futures fund and put Australia back in the black. That show is definitely for winners. Abbott should stick to his guns, silence with Q & A (at this time) is golden. Sell the ABC and shutdown the Dept for Climate Change to save a billion.
PM- will never get done for taking performance enhancing drugs, gave us nightmares about pink batts, school halls that never get used, said she’d wear out her shoes selling the CT to the people, lasted about 3 days ’till she spoke to QLD.
The ICAC is the beginning of the end for Labor in NSW, Fraud Squad’s going after her in Victoria, so come on Grey, feed us another carrot… please.