Politics labelling laws

So the Greens are pushing in the Senate for stronger food labelling laws. Greens leader Christine Milne as reported in the Australian

Greens leader Christine Milne said a packet of frozen vegetables with a map of Tasmania on the front may in fact largely be comprised of imported produce. ”People would have had no idea about that because of the way labelling currently is,” she told ABC radio on Tuesday. She dismissed claims from industry that the laws would increase costs for farmers as a “complete exaggeration”.

Well what about politics labelling laws? How many of NSW voters know, for example, that Green senator Lee Rhiannon is an unrepentent purveyor of that imported extreme ideology communism? Surely it would be a ‘complete exaggeration’ for the Greens to complain that it would be too costly to publish the truth about their MPs and their background and ideology? That it be laid bare the full extent of the objectives of each MP, what types of legislation they would vote in favour, and what against?

Truth in political labelling is important as demonstrated by the replacement of Rudd by Gillard. The people in 2007 thought that they were electing Howard light. Yet this was switched during that Parliament. If full disclosure of each MP’s objectives etc was made, the people would know what to expect from a Gillard Government ex ante.

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29 Responses to Politics labelling laws

  1. Infidel Tiger

    Funnily enough when I look at the Greens I see a pack of Map of Tassies too.

  2. Jim Rose

    who would be the first in the dock under Truth in political labelling laws. those that proposed it.

    if you stream the Attack Ad Hall of Fame, most are based on the truth and are highly creative and focussed packaging of messages

    Boomerang Ads by carter against reagan was the best. Carter tried to paint Reagan as someone who was not prepared to be president.

    Reagan showed in the course of the 1980 campaign that he was prepared to lead, undermining this claim. Perhaps the best example was in the presidential debate of 1980 where Reagan came across as informed and sober in his judgment.

    labor is risking boomerang ads on abbott.

  3. Marky

    Funnily enough when I look at the Greens I see a pack of Map of Tassies too.

    An unpleasant thought, when you consider their views on deforestation…

  4. MichaelC58

    Trouble is no one bothers to read disclosures.

    Abbott has written a whole book full of disclosure in his book Battlelines. Who has bothered to read it even here? And yet people accuse him of having no ideas and no policy. Oh the irony.

  5. Peredur

    “The people in 2007 thought they were electing Howard-lite.” Yes, Me-too played them for suckers. But how things have changed! Neither He, nor Her, will be playing at Abbott-lite this time around. The mere thought of him has unhinged them from the moment he gained the leadership. They hate him because they fear him.

  6. Helen Armstrong

    when you consider their views on deforestation

    That would be a Brazilian, then?

  7. Jessie

    Didn’t Andrew Bolt get into trouble for labelling?

  8. Andrew

    Abbott has written a whole book full of disclosure in his book Battlelines. Who has bothered to read it even here? And yet people accuse him of having no ideas and no policy. Oh the irony.

    From what I have heard about Battlelines, there is some quite questionable policy in there. Abbott supposedly backs a carbon tax as an emissions reduction measure.

  9. Helen Armstrong

    From what I have heard about Battlelines,

    Why don’t you read it Andrew, and report back?

  10. thefrollickingmole

    Well if your going near Greens maps of Tassie id advise a thorough burn-off and run through with the scarafire before spreading any seed.. (tacky enough?)

  11. Andrew

    Why don’t you read it Andrew, and report back?

    I should read it. Supposedly it has a fair bit on his paid parental leave and other policies that he is known to stand for. That is why I am somewhat reluctant to read it when I know the essence of it.

  12. Helen Armstrong

    run through with the scarafire before spreading any seed..

    That is serious gear, but necessary, I think. Safe and all that.

  13. sdog

    Reagan showed in the course of the 1980 campaign that he was prepared to lead, undermining this claim. Perhaps the best example was in the presidential debate of 1980 where Reagan came across as informed and sober in his judgment

    You didn’t write that. That was written by author John G. Geer, and you have plagiarised from him word for word: http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/284996.html

    You’ve seriously got to stop trying to pass off other peoples’ published writings as your own work, Rose. It seems to be an ongoing bad habit with you.

    As I requested earlier when you tried to pass off John Lott’s published work as your own, “either start authoring your own comments or if you’re too thick to do that then at least give credit to the person who actually wrote them.”

  14. Tintarella di Luna

    Trouble is no one bothers to read disclosures.

    Abbott has written a whole book full of disclosure in his book Battlelines. Who has bothered to read it even here? And yet people accuse him of having no ideas and no policy. Oh the irony.

    I have and it is a great insight to a thoughtful mind. I read as much as I can of what this man writes and he writes all his own speeches, elegant and beautiful.

    When he became opposition leader I read his first speech in parliament to know him a little better. And there it was: a most impressive evocation of what he thinks government is about and what government should do.

    ….there is no mystery in Australia’s needs or voters’ wants. There is no secret about what governments should do. As Edmund Burke said, governments are human contrivances to satisfy human wants. People expect governments to work—and I hope honourable members opposite recognise these lines—`for the betterment of mankind, not just here but wherever we can lend a helping hand’, as Ben Chifley said in his `light on the hill’ speech. There are some things which only individuals can do; there are other things which only governments can do; and there are many things which people can do better, provided governments help. So let people run their own lives and let government do what individuals cannot.

    I stand for active government, not big government. I stand for government which gets off people’s backs, not government which opts out of the future because it cannot face hard decisions. I stand for government which backs Australia’s families with real policies and not just platitudes.

    RTWT

  15. Steve of Glasshouse

    Thank you people for the laugh of the morning..Waxing lyrical about maps of Tassie..

  16. Blogstrop

    The media know what’s in the package, but are too often acting as the advertising agency instead of the consumer’s advocate.

  17. Tintarella di Luna

    The media know what’s in the package, but are too often acting as the advertising agency instead of the consumer’s advocate.

    Nice blogstrop

  18. Abu Chowdah

    Spot, some people don’t understand how the Internet works. That’s why he thinks no one will notice.

  19. Ellen of Tasmania

    I read Abbott’s book a couple of years ago. Trouble is, he spends the introduction telling us that government shouldn’t interfere where individuals can and should manage their own lives, and then spends chapters telling us how he wants government to interfere and manage our lives.

    A government that wants to pay you to stay home with your babies or that wants to check your colon for cancer is a government that interferes way too much.

    Ditto with Costello’s book. Liberals are not a small government alternative, just a getting-bigger-slower one.

  20. Politicians cause cancer.

    There are no known health benefits to politicians.

    Politicians are highly addictive.

    Quite politicians now!

    Look, basically I’m saying it’s time we got this ‘plain packaging for politicians’ campaign in full-swing.

  21. one old bruce

    ‘Quite politicians now!’

    ‘Quiet’ and ‘Quit’ both work for me, TimT.

    Truth in packaging: the standard trick now is to bury incriminating facts in petty details, Samuel. Then emphasise petty details of your opponent, and claiming that all this is a ‘balanced’ portrayal.

  22. one old bruce

    Eg, ‘Yes, like many of that era, ‘Rhiannon’ had a flirtation with leftists politics (and Fleetwood Mac! Let’s talk about Fleetwood Mac!). She came from a charming family of endearing eccentrics, who promoted the arts…’

    I can’t even say the name ‘Rhiannon’ without smirking, or grimacing. ‘Wild in the Streets’, baby!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_in_the_Streets

  23. Jessie

    No scarifying just relabelling thefrollickingmole.

    TFM, I think it may have been you commenting in a thread a week or so ago re lack of stats on a town of 50,000.
    ABS offer quicklinks where you can compile any of their 2001, 2006, 2011 Census data using a range of sex, age, race etc.

    Basic community profiles and tables can be sourced for the local govt area or town of that size easily. A drill down can be done also, and anything above a 60 dwelling meshblocks can be obtained freely.

  24. Jessie

    ABS Community Profiles

    Definitely some pitfalls with the data but profiles will give a basic overview.

  25. Jarrah

    “You’ve seriously got to stop trying to pass off other peoples’ published writings as your own work, Rose. It seems to be an ongoing bad habit with you.”

    Ouch. I like Jim Rose’s contributions here and elsewhere, but that’s not a nice revelation.

  26. Jarrah

    “then spends chapters telling us how he wants government to interfere and manage our lives.”

    I understand seeing Abbott as the lesser of two evils, by a substantial margin, but we shouldn’t be under any illusions about his conservative statism. The best we can hope for is the conservative part outweighs the statist part.

  27. old bloke

    the Greens are pushing in the Senate for stronger food labelling laws.

    I would like to see food labelling laws which show much much extra I’m paying for unwanted Halal certification.

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