Tuesday Forum: February 19, 2013 at Catallaxy Files

Tuesday Forum: February 19, 2013

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February 19th, 2013 at 1:00 pm

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ME!

nilk

19 Feb 13 at 1:06 pm
Yay, I win!

Now what do I get?

nilk

19 Feb 13 at 1:07 pm
Sharia Law now!

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 1:07 pm
Anti-energy wacko and communist Alan Jones complained today that the Environmental Protection Agency is under-resourced.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 1:07 pm
It’s already happening, IT. By proxy with the useful idiots pushing along the normalising process.

nilk

19 Feb 13 at 1:08 pm
Aha! Gabrielle made Sinclair do this! Me six.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

19 Feb 13 at 1:13 pm
23rd, oh no, premature numeration.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 1:13 pm
Has anyone here got a durrie, so a bruvver can traditionally smoke up this forum?

Mick Gold Coast QLD

19 Feb 13 at 1:15 pm
Sorry to harp, but I am surprised at the outrage confected by the MSM at the “price war” between Coles and Woolworths and how the ACCC is going to save the day. Economies do not exist to provide people with jobs. They exist to supply demands. Consumers demand cheap prices. The system is working. Why the hell do the ACCC see a problem? Are they another institution through which the Socialists have marched?

Ooh Honey Honey

19 Feb 13 at 1:15 pm
Anti-energy wacko and communist Alan Jones complained today that the Environmental Protection Agency is under-resourced.

We are in a crazy world. The AWU wants to open the country to Coal Seam Gas exploration and the darling of the agrigan solialist set is working with the Greens to shut the industry down.

The Oz had another example of moronic Australian statism today:

Rules aplenty but no one’s policing them

It has this memerable line:

Australia’s failure to capitalise on the mining boom is in part due to a failure to enforce regulations.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 1:17 pm
So what do you suggest, Harold? (personally, I’m all for hiring a convertible and a megaphone and doing the City sights).

Nilk, I was thinking more along the lines of a public amphitheatre which are found in some parks. How quaint, using an amphitheatre for public discourse – perhaps they’ll ban him from the park. (actually there’s probably laws which apply to organises uses)

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 1:18 pm
Last week I heard communist Alan Jones advocate a mandated 20 percent market share ceiling for Coles and Woolworths. He wants businessmen in these companies arrested for supplying cheap food.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 1:19 pm
The only problem with that, Harold is that it makes Geert a sitting target for the eternal students who make up a lot of the rabble.

Plenty of lefty bludgers out there who think that welfare is a means of keeping you off the streets while you plot your way into a union or some other activist organisation.

It would only take one and you’d have a flashmob of ferals and jihadis out there baying for blood.

nilk

19 Feb 13 at 1:23 pm
Last week I heard communist Alan Jones advocate a mandated 20 percent market share ceiling for Coles and Woolworths.

We meed to put quotas on Jones’s radio station too. Restricting it to 5% of the audience sounds like a fair figure.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 1:23 pm
Mark Steyn comment on the The Corner blog NRO:

Lenin said “The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” Islam has gone the Commies one better: The modern western welfare state gives them the money to buy the rope with which they will hang us.

Sounds even more disturbingly truthful than Geert

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 1:23 pm
Gabrielle made Sinclair do this

I let it pass the first time you said that, Mick but you insist making the point here. You are quite wrong. Since when has any female been able to make a male do anything he doesn’t want to do?!

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 1:27 pm
The Greens walking away from the ALP could be a good thing for the ALP. They are separated and don’t have such strong links with loony Greens

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 1:30 pm
Muehlenberg on the Perth venue cancellation for Wilders.

I am now going to go get dressed and put on a bit of makeup for tonight’s talk.

And no, I won’t be wearing red lipstick like Anne Summers. That would be a crime against humanity.

nilk

19 Feb 13 at 1:36 pm
The Greens walking away from the ALP could be a good thing for the ~~ALP~~ the Greens. They are separated and don’t have such strong links with loony Greens ~~ALP~~

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 1:39 pm
~~Greens~~ ALP

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 1:39 pm
Good post by Muehlenberg.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 1:40 pm
Enforce your own quota IT,turn the fucker off,at least with radio stations there’s plenty of choice and they all cost the same…..nothing.With Woolworths and Coles however the alternatives are not so readily available since they’ve managed to crush their competitors and now exploit the lack of competition,what they charge for premium petrol is an excellent example,up to 20c a litre over ULP for a product that costs then about 5c a litre more.

Lew

19 Feb 13 at 1:42 pm
The Greens walking away from the ALP

Yeah … sure …

And Sydney Harbour Bridge is for sale.

The BS meter is clanging at Defcon 1 volume.

Septimus

19 Feb 13 at 1:50 pm
Look forward to your report, nilk.

I am still furious about the WA thing – especially the allegedly conservative Premier, instead of offering protection and support to a democratically elected MP from a friendly country, choosing to side with terrorists.

Disgusting.

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 1:53 pm
Johanna the ferals have found the venue for tonight, so it won’t be dull.

nilk

19 Feb 13 at 1:55 pm
New food guidelines? Does this mean the food pyramid is changing?

Low fat dairy products are recommended… milk? There’s onlyu 4% fat in milk.

If you eat low fat products they’re usually loaded with sugar which is not good.

I haven’t seen these new guidlines, just heard them on the radio.

kae

19 Feb 13 at 1:57 pm
Choosing to side with a minority. Government bows down to minorities all the time and if they happen to have ‘behead the infidels’ placards well then government feels justified. To keep the peace, you see. At the expense of freedom. The Islamists have won. No need for suicide bombers, we have government for that now.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 1:58 pm
Free speech is dead in WA. The last nail in the coffin is Barnett’s capitulation to intimidation.

Cold-Hands

19 Feb 13 at 1:59 pm
“Gabrielle made Sinclair do this

I let it pass the first time you said that, Mick but you insist making the point here”

For the fun of it, Gabrielle, only for the fun of it and not to so upset you, not by any measure.

“Since when has any female been able to make a male do anything he doesn’t want to do?!”

Since, well, regularly in my experience … with subtlety, craft, humour, poise, femininity, dignity, mutual high regard … stuff like that. Plus my lot chucked away the school issue de-knackering knife so popular in my country during the past few decades.

I’ll now depart for productive endeavour with Accountants-R-Us, to ensure “I am minimizing my tax and if anybody in this country doesn’t minimize their tax they want their heads read because as a government I can tell you you’re not spending it that well that we should be donating extra.” ™Kerry Packer.

Au revoir.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

19 Feb 13 at 1:59 pm
Linky

kae

19 Feb 13 at 2:00 pm
With Woolworths and Coles however the alternatives are not so readily available since they’ve managed to crush their competitors and now exploit the lack of competition

By crush their competitors you mean that the majority of Australians prefer to shop at Coles and Woolworths.

By this reasoning we must also break up News Ltd papers, Coke and Pepsi.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 2:00 pm
Au revoir. Typical male. Always has to have the last word.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 2:02 pm
Yuk yuk yuk. Drudge is being naughty about the POTUS-Reggie Love relationship. Check the photo that accompanies the lead.

Oh come on

19 Feb 13 at 2:03 pm
the ferals have found the venue for tonight,

and if they cause mayhem, which I expect they will, various government cowards and freedom-hating MSM will blame Wilders. How f*cked it that!

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 2:04 pm
Doing the rounds today are the sentencing remarks of a Queensland judge:

Qld judge calls serial offender ‘grub’, ‘clown’ and ‘boofhead’ in sentencing address.

The transcript of his sentencing remarks is doing the rounds of members of the state’s legal community. It is labelled: “How to impose sentence properly – by Harrison DCJ”.

Now the remarks:

“I think you heard me refer to you before as a clown or an idiot. Well you are,” Judge Harrison said. “It’s people like you who wreck it for everyone.

“Time and time again we hear how people are dissatisfied about the sentences that the courts impose and how the push is on for tougher and tougher sentences.

“And it’s because of grubs like you – and I use that word advisedly – grubs like you, that we’re hearing that.”

Judge Harrison said if he could bet on Tamou re-offending, he would become a rich man: “You will be back. If I was sure who was going to win the Melbourne Cup next year as I was about you re-offending, I would make a fortune.

“Because you’ve got no respect, have you, for this system?

“You do your block and you go hurt people. You go and assault people, you go and steal things because you don’t care.

“But you can’t just go ahead, lose the temper, put your brain into neutral, if you have got one – and I seriously question that – and then just go and do what you like.

“A month after you were sentenced in this court, you were off stealing.

“What a goose.”

Now the sentence:

“I don’t think, however upset I am with you for the contempt you have shown for this place (court), anything is to be gained by putting you back in for a short term and sending you out again.

“You are going to remain on parole now for about 10 months and it’s up to you.

“I don’t hold out any confidence (because) out will come the fist, about three seconds before the brain.”

Long story short: this idiotic judge admits that he’s putting a man back on the streets and that he’ll bash people.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 2:07 pm
The last nail in the coffin is Barnett’s capitulation to intimidation.

It was the revoltingly mincing capitulation that did it. You could almost see the piss running down his legs at the thought of non-violent peaceful Muslims rioting through the perth “community” upon hearing somebody say they they aren’t really peaceful.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 2:10 pm
The Greens walking away from the ALP

No they haven’t, it is a faux walk out, as they will continue to guarantee supply.

Piss weak, the Greens know they are going to loose seats so would rather snouts in trough for as long as they can rather than make a stand on their own principles.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 2:11 pm
By crush their competitors you mean that the majority of Australians prefer to shop at Coles and Woolworths.

By this reasoning we must also break up News Ltd papers, Coke and Pepsi.

There is actually a lot of competition in the market but people don’t bother to shop around. People always forget about places like Aldi and IGA amongst other small businesses.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 2:12 pm
It’s deafening. The sound of “moderate” Muslims in this country objecting to Barnett et al bowing down to Islamists who would protest to silence free speech.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 2:16 pm
Bazza Farrell jams another one into the state economy by marginalising coal seam gas explorers, thereby insulating NSW against the next wave of energy investment.
Bazza deomstrates to the electorate yet again that there is little point in turning up to the ballot box in the heartland of the Rum Corps.
Crikeys, you don’t want to upset those horse breeders Baz! Or Jonesy.

Uber

19 Feb 13 at 2:17 pm
I commented On Gittins article in SMH where he blamed Abbott for the mining tax failure. I simply asked “Could someone explain to me what “above-normal profits” means?” I received the following response, showing the absolute arrogance of these people: “Money in the bank earns 6%. So an business investor is usually happy with something like a 10% return on investment and above. Someone who has the interests of Australia at heart would argue that a company making over double that in profit whilst extracting a resource out of Australia’s soil (or oceans etc), is in a position to have a super profits tax applied. That is they will still be making a great return on investment during that super profit period, but some portion goes back to compensate the owners of the land/ resources (ie the Australian people).
For example BHP returned a 26% return on investment last year. There is very clearly room here for extra compensation that will in no way hurt the miner. These numbers are representative only, but the concept is correct ie a tax on a mining super profit is a fair and reasonable idea and should be done. (properly this time!)
If it had been implemented correctly it is a way for Australia to save for it’s future. The alternative is to leave this super profit to billionaires and mostly OS investors. Simple choice really.
BHP returned 26% last year (internationally”

I particularly liked “someone who has the interests of Australia at heart”. As opposed to….?

Greg

19 Feb 13 at 2:19 pm
Very disappointed to hear that Wilders won’t get a chance to speak in WA. I’m not as well versed as others here about the man or his views but what does it say about our society that someone can’t speak freely without the (implied or otherwise) threat of violence? Nothing good.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 2:23 pm
Johanna the ferals have found the venue for tonight, so it won’t be dull.

You only have to search the net to see all these lunatic groups planning action against the venues.

Australia is a leftist shithole.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 2:24 pm
Johanna the ferals have found the venue for tonight, so it won’t be dull.

Capture them on film. Their actions & signs do infinitely more damage than our words about them.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 2:30 pm
Politico via DRUDGE:

President Obama has returned to Washington, from his solo vacation. He finally talked with the press on the ride back.

AF1 wheels down Andrews at 7:45pm. POTUS came back to have a 10-minute off the record talk with pool at the end of the flight.

Reggie Love departed AF1 soon after POTUS, apparently a guest for the weekend.

Marine One wheels up 7:55 pm

Interesting.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 2:36 pm
I particularly liked “someone who has the interests of Australia at heart”. As opposed to….?

The professional, whitecollar, internet dwelling pop-left have given up on communism entirely, and in fact now actively loath the working classes and have begun shifting back to being classic fascists again. Complete with (among other things) fantasies of living folkish lives in the country, appeals to nationalism when putting the states boot onto the neck of business, a resurgent support for eugenics, hand wringing “moralising” about the nations “discourse”, open hostility towards free speech, vast jewish compsiracies and a slobbering love of the state and its “institutions”.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 2:41 pm
Yuk yuk yuk. Drudge is being naughty about the POTUS-Reggie Love relationship. Check the photo that accompanies the lead.

I like the p*sstake Drudge has on the bog standard scare campaign that accompanies boring data from the AGW cultists.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 2:42 pm
How is a holiday weekend “solo” when your former “body man” is there?

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 2:43 pm
Love your work twostix!

Greg

19 Feb 13 at 2:43 pm
What sort of married man takes solo vacations?

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 2:44 pm
Yeah it’s odd alright. I go on holidays with my mates and leave the Mrs at home but going off completely by yourself is a bit different.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 2:46 pm
I am looking for a wonderful quote along the lines that “to do wrong [behave badly] in the service of virtue is [the most something something], the most exquisite of moral treats.”

C’mon, all you polymaths. It’s somewhere on my computer, but who knows where. Help!

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 2:51 pm
You only have to search the net to see all these lunatic groups planning action against the venues

Stay safe nilk

I also had a wander around some of the sites IT did. You have to wonder about their lack of comprehension and the meaning of “free speech”

eam

19 Feb 13 at 2:57 pm
What sort of married man takes solo vacations?

One who is living ‘Down Low’.

Myrrdin Seren

19 Feb 13 at 2:59 pm
The modern left have far more in common with classic British Tories than they probably realize. The difference between an oligarchy of land owners in a central government and a central government controlling the land owners is very slim.

Of course, the toffiest of toffs like to rabbit on about organics, windmills and urban planning and the scourge of the unwashed masses. I ask you to compare to a modern green and tell me where the difference is.

brc

19 Feb 13 at 3:03 pm
Johanna the ferals have found the venue for tonight, so it won’t be dull.

Capture them on film. Their actions & signs do infinitely more damage than our words about them.

Good point becuase the msm won’t be publishing pics of muslim gone wild over Wilders.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 3:17 pm
Video: JAPAN SKYSCRAPER DEMOLISHED FROM INSIDE

Published on 19 Jan 2013

A new way of demolishing old buildings has been tried out in Japan. A landmark Japanese skyscraper, the Grand Prince Hotel Akasaka, has been taken apart from the inside.
The process is said to be safer and cleaner than standard demolition techniques that use explosives.
The Grand Prince Hotel Akasaka once towered about 140 meters in the air. That was until June 2012, when it slowly started shrinking.
There’s no wrecking ball in site, and the building is being taken apart piece by piece from the inside.
The new technique is thought to decrease dust by up to 90 percent, while reducing noise by around 20 decibels.
The hotel is the tallest building to be dismantled in Japan. But its demolition has barely made a sound.
Hideki Ichihara is the deputy manager of the construction technology development for Taisei Corporation. He says cranes and other equipment have been brought inside the building. Temporary columns have been used to buttress the roof, which is then lowered as the work progresses.
It IS certainly more time consuming, and the company faces more technological challenges.
The hotel has a complicated internal structure. But Ichihara says the method is safer and more economical.
Hideki Ichihara, Deputy Manager, Construction Technology, Taisei Corporation, said, “There are more and more skyscrapers over 100 meters that are being demolished worldwide, such as in Hong Kong and in Shanghai. I think our method is effective for demolishing buildings in cities with a high concentration of tall buildings. And we are promoting this method now. ”
Ichihara says the method can be used for nearly all types of construction.
Taisei now plans to promote the company’s internal demolition service in Japan, and later to the international market.

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 3:18 pm
Tasmanian Green-Labor Government is really on the nose with the EMRS poll.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/02/19/emrs-liberal-52-labor-27-greens-18-in-tasmania-2/

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 3:20 pm
Video: JAPAN SKYSCRAPER DEMOLISHED FROM INSIDE

They used the same crew as for the WTC.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 3:22 pm
Capture them on film. Their actions & signs do infinitely more damage than our words about them.

Good point becuase the msm won’t be publishing pics of muslim gone wild over Wilders.

Don’t forget to use Twitter to get pictures out of particularly egregious behaviour.

The usual standard of reporting was going on at the Sydney Muslim Riot before the tweets started being passed around.

Send to #auspol and create a hashtag that will get attention and trend when you post the images like #SydneyRaceRiot did

Token

19 Feb 13 at 3:24 pm
Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu said Mr Wilders was wrong and there was clear evidence that multiculturalism was a positive.

“My message to the people of Victoria is very clear: do your best to ignore this man,” he told reporters.

What a complete freedom-hating tool. If multi-culti works so well in this country then how is it that someone who speaks out on one aspect of it, the totalitarian religion, is being forced into silence?

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/stop-islamic-immigration-wilders/story-e6frfku9-1226581163914#ixzz2LJfVscDF

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 3:35 pm
“My message to the people of Victoria is very clear: do your best to ignore this man,”

“And when the MCG blows up, your wife is forced to wear a sack, bottleshops are burnt to the ground, try and ignore that shit too.

Just remember folks, I might be in the Liberal Party, but it’s liberal in name only. I’m really an inbred cockface who should be pushed in front of a tram.”

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 3:38 pm
They don’t even talk about the same thing. Wilders thinks Islam grates. Ted tells us that curry and dim sims spice up our diet.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 3:42 pm
Baillieu and Barnett are obviously in election year and are justifiably shit-scared of the monopoly leftist media.

But they do not need to abase themselves.

But Baillieu probably truly is leftist illiberal.

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 3:45 pm
Baillieu and Barnett are obviously in election year and are justifiably shit-scared of the monopoly leftist media.

Baillieu just wants to get some good press. Rarely any good news about him.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 3:48 pm
Baillieu just wants to get some good press

Has he considered jumping off the Westgate Bridge?

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 3:49 pm
“And when the MCG blows up, your wife is forced to wear a sack, bottleshops are burnt to the ground, try and ignore that shit too.

On the plus side I’ll get to grow the large unkempt ned kelly style bushy beard I’ve always wanted.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 3:51 pm
Good post by Muehlenberg.

Azazel…Azazel…Azaze….

He has his days but he is no friend of liberty.

.

19 Feb 13 at 3:53 pm
Baillieu just wants to get some good press. Rarely any good news about him.

Why is this good press? Outside of the luvvie inner-city left the 2% of the population who are muslim haven’t exactly caught the heart.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 3:56 pm
+ of

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 3:57 pm
+the nation.

good grief.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 3:58 pm
No need to vote Labor, with Fatty, Ted and now Barnett in charge. They are all utterly gutless – leap out in front of them and yell “BOO!” and they fall in a heap.

In NSW, Fatty has at least two terms, but admittedly is hampered by the agrarian socialist retards in the Coalition and a flaky Upper House. So, he manages to annoy both the left/middle with allowing shooting in national parks and the right/middle by almost banning coal-seam mining. Prepare for soaring gas bills.

Good one, Fatty!

Why isn’t Barnett embarrassed to admit that his police are not able to protect Wilders? Would he say that if the US President came to visit?

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 3:58 pm
Fatty, Ted and now Barnett in charge. They are all utterly gutless

It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.

The Islamists have already won.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 4:06 pm
A landmark Japanese skyscraper, the Grand Prince Hotel Akasaka, has been taken apart from the inside.

Just like a landmark Australian political party, the ALP.

blogstrop

19 Feb 13 at 4:07 pm
Who to vote for in WA?

Barnett is a complete cock sucking socialist, he’ll be lucky to get a decent preference.

harrys on the boat

19 Feb 13 at 4:08 pm
“I call upon the Church, in every situation, to persist in esteem for Muslims … If all of us who believe in God desire to promote reconciliation, justice and peace, we must work together to banish every form of discrimination, intolerance and religious fundamentalism.”

Pope Benedict XVI, 2011.

Mr Wilders said immigration from Islamic countries should stop

The conservative Catholics of Catallaxy are, of course, only ever interested in what Popes say about abortion.

steve from brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 4:11 pm
Talking of cock suckers, shitfer returns.

harrys on the boat

19 Feb 13 at 4:13 pm
Mr Wilders said immigration from Islamic countries should stop but asylum seekers, whose lives were at risk, were okay.

He said most Muslims are not extremists but Islamic ideology will never be able to integrate in democratic societies.

The cherry-picking freedom-hating SFB hasn’t changed.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 4:15 pm
Dear me Gab, did shitfer really cut off Wilders mid-sentence? You despicable fucker shitfer.

harrys on the boat

19 Feb 13 at 4:18 pm
I’m staggered that someone (shitfer), could quote a mans half sentence to prove a point, when the second half of the sentence destroys the point.

Un-fucking-believable.

You are a fucking disgrace shifer, now fuck off back to the ironing.

harrys on the boat

19 Feb 13 at 4:21 pm
Those idiot commentators at the SMH aren’t arrogant when they confuse the ROR of a bank term deposit with the ROR of an investment in BHP being 26%, when it should be a bit over 3%, they are simply stupendously stupid.

Crikeys if I could get 26% investing in BHP shares……….and if those Keynesians believe that, then no wonder Gillard’s Goons can’t get their taxes working – holey moley this is unbelievable.

Louis Hissink

19 Feb 13 at 4:22 pm
THE AFL has suspended former Melbourne coach Dean Bailey and the club’s ex-football operations manager Chris Connolly as result an investigation.

Connolly has been suspended for 12 months, while former coach Dean Bailey, who has been an assistant coach at Adelaide since late in 2011, was suspended for the first 16 rounds of this season.

If the AFL really wanted to penalise the Melbourne football club they should ensure Connolly spends more time at the club. (Link)

H B Bear

19 Feb 13 at 4:23 pm
” Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu said Mr Wilders was wrong and there was clear evidence that multiculturalism was a positive.”
That so?
So where is the respect for my culture of shipping the cretins straight back to IRAN with the famous cartoon depictions of Mo as an animal tattooed on their forhead. Where is the respect for my culture of using the oppressed for entertainment?

WhaleHunt Fun

19 Feb 13 at 4:24 pm
What’s your point Gab: Wilder’s position is clearly inconsistent with that of the Pope’s, unless you are contending that a ban on all non asylum Muslim migration is somehow not discrimination?

And how do you expect Muslims here with relatives overseas to react to a high profile speaker who is encouraging listeners to push the Australian government to a discriminatory migration policy that may affect them directly?

I guess the freedom loving way is for governments to offer him a venue if private land owners won’t give him one? Oh, maybe that’s not your cretinous nonsense, but IT’s. So hard to keep up.

steve from brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 4:25 pm
Lol steves lack of self control is on display for all to see.

Now after his short lived “drying out” he’ll go on an open forum commenting binge. We’re witnessing an addict backslide right in front of our eyes.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 4:27 pm
Wilders is not attacking Muslims. Neither was the Pope.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 4:28 pm
Who to vote for in WA?

Barnett is a complete cock sucking socialist, he’ll be lucky to get a decent preference.

I’m in Barnett’s electorate, so in the lower house I’ll just have to draw a giant cock n’ balls and a precis of my manifesto on the ballot paper. In the upper I’ll put 1 next to the Shooters & Fishers.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 4:30 pm
we must work together to banish every form of discrimination, intolerance and religious fundamentalism.”

and allow Wilders to speak freely, without fear for his safety, nay we must encourage him to speak out, as the Pope and SfB said.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 4:31 pm
Wilders is not attacking Muslims. Neither was the Pope.

Damn it, SoB is back making stupid absolute statements.

The holiday is over.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 4:33 pm
And how do you expect Muslims here with relatives overseas to react to a high profile speaker who is encouraging listeners to push the Australian government to a discriminatory migration policy that may affect them directly?

Riot and rampage?

Plot to blow up Australian icons?

Theaten the speaker with death?

Once upon a time for many a year Steve the addict represented himself as a “conservative catholic”. That was back in the heady days when he was shooting up 200+ comments a day though.

It’s refreshing to see that you’ve learned something from rehab steve. To bad they didn’t also teach you about the self abuse that is quote clipping.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 4:33 pm
And how do you expect ~~Muslims~~ non-Muslims here with relatives overseas to react to a high profile speaker from Islamic extremist organisations who is encouraging listeners to push the Australian government to a discriminatory ~~migration policy~~ Sharia Law that may affect them directly?

Fixed for you SoB

Token

19 Feb 13 at 4:34 pm
My old man in the UK was a town clerk for a small council in his spare time and he made the mistake of telling me that spoilt papers got read out at a meeting post election.

At the few elections I could vote in I’d be chuckling to myself in the voting booth whilst penning an expletive riddled ditty thinking of the shocked faces upon its public airing.

harrys on the boat

19 Feb 13 at 4:36 pm
Gabs point was basically you’re a lying fucking imbecile shitfer.

And she was correct.

harrys on the boat

19 Feb 13 at 4:38 pm
and allow Wilders to speak freely, without fear for his safety, nay we must encourage him to speak out, as the Pope and SfB said.

No obviously the pope specifically excluded Geert Wilders when he made that comment about banishing religious fundamentalism, discrimination and intolerance.

He surely wasn’t speaking about muslim intolerance, fundamentalism and discrimination. These things don’t exist anywhere in the world*

*Except in every single country with a muslim majority

Anyway the pope said muslims may be as fundamental, intolerant and discriminatory of Geert Wilders as they wish because he wants to talk about immigration policy.

So sayeth steve the addict.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 4:38 pm
I dare say if the organisers of tonight’s chat by that funny looking dude tell the police that there is a noisy crowd gathering outside the venue, police will turn up.

What do you want: all protesters to be water cannoned? Release the dogs? If that had happened at the carbon tax rallies, would that have been a problem?

steve from brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 4:41 pm
The conservative Catholics of Catallaxy are, of course, only ever interested in what Popes say about abortion.

That’s facile but typical dishonesty from liar-steve®

The Pope was preaching love for Muslim people.

I’d suggest the religious tolerance the Pope called for is very much to Islamic leaders who demonstrate little or even more typically the inverse .

Gilders says pretty much the same thing if more explicitly.

Islam is a political ideology and religion whose maxims (like liar-steve® and loathsome illiberal left) preaches intolerance of individual liberty and freedom of expression.

So, if what Gilders says is true diagnostically then what’s the solution?

Some of his proposed solutions such as banning Islamic immigration, could well be described as radical and extreme, but that doesn’t mean they are wrong for Australia or more pressingly for Europe.

How else can the Islamists be prevented from entering our country and becoming citizens whilst loathing the liberal democratic values we cherish?

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 4:43 pm
In the Islamic world, I was always struck by two things. I was impressed by the kindness and helpfulness of many people. But there was also their fear. Islamic societies are ruled by terror. Muslims are good people, but they live under the yoke of Islamic sharia. If they leave Islam, or even just mildly criticise it, they sign their own death verdict.

– Geert Wilders, in the Australian yesterday.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 4:49 pm
I think you will find that the various venues cancelled the meetings because their public liability insurers wouldn’t cover them. That’s why Barnett, O’Farrell etc might have their hands tied.

Louis Hissink

19 Feb 13 at 4:50 pm
He surely wasn’t speaking about muslim intolerance, fundamentalism and discrimination. These things don’t exist anywhere in the world*

*Except in every single country with a sizeable muslim ~~majority~~ population.

FTFY

In Wilder’s Netherlands, Muslims are not yet the majority, but still cause unrest through violence and advocating sharia.

Cold-Hands

19 Feb 13 at 4:51 pm
I dare say if the organisers of tonight’s chat by that funny looking dude tell the police that there is a noisy crowd gathering outside the venue, police will turn up.

Feel good steve the addict? Post again you know you want another hit.

Tell us more about tolerance and discrimination again as you laugh at the “funny looking” dutch man.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 4:51 pm
That’s why Barnett, O’Farrell etc might have their hands tied.

That doesn’t explain their gratuitous denigration of Wilders

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 4:53 pm
And how do you expect Muslims here with relatives overseas to react to a high profile speaker who is encouraging listeners to push the Australian government to a discriminatory migration policy that may affect them directly?

Well, I expect Muslims to generally defend their exploding brothers, claim Australia has invaded Muslim lands and refer to us as the ‘kaffir and ‘dhimmi’ like what has happened in the UK.

But that’s the problem. I shouldn’t be expecting that. I should expect them to denounce other muslims, relatives or not, who are going to behave like this.

John Mc

19 Feb 13 at 4:53 pm
You have to wonder how much the cretins who are agitating against Wilders know about him.

He is a pretty typical Dutch libertarian – thinks the State should get TF out of who marries whom, what drugs people choose to take and so on.

The airheads who oppose him almost certainly have nothing in common with fundamentalist Islam, and a lot in common with him.

I doubt that most of them even know this. Presumably he is “right-wing” in the same sense as Larry Flynt was. But all Get-Up et al need to do is press the “right-wing” button and all the mindless little popups appear on cue.

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 4:54 pm
dare say if the organisers of tonight’s chat by that funny looking dude

Shane Wand is on a lecture tour? Who knew.

What do you want: all protesters to be water cannoned? Release the dogs?

Yes & Yes, although i prefer teargas with a baton charge and ‘unleash the hounds’. But thats just me.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 4:55 pm
Yeah well apparently Libertarians are all hard right wing people. I’m one and whilst I’m to the right on economics, I’m not necessarily that way when it comes to drug policy and what happens in the bedroom.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 4:55 pm
What do you want: all protesters to be water cannoned? Release the dogs? If that had happened at the carbon tax rallies, would that have been a problem?

Marvelous. Totalitarian SFB is the only one to advocate a police attack upon protesters. People here have been speaking up for free speech, but not your SFB. No, he never speaks up for any freedoms the State wants to take away; he prefers to talk about inflicting violence.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 4:56 pm
I think you will find that the various venues cancelled the meetings because their public liability insurers wouldn’t cover them.

Why would they be worried about such things? It’s only the tolerant, peaceful, moderate muslim community and freedom of speech loving political left that they’re dealing with.

The insurance companies are simply bigoted, racist, hate mongers.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 4:56 pm
Strange, Islam aims at converting the whole world, as do the socialists to socialism – birds of a feather – both the Islamicists and the socialists have the same goals – one spiritual, the other in mammon, and both are intolerant of dissent as well.

And SoB doesn’t get it.

Louis Hissink

19 Feb 13 at 4:56 pm
Breaking News – Gillzilla tells AWU conference labour can win the election.

And i am a 7 foot bearded nordic man named Sven.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 4:57 pm
PS – with rippling Abs and mighty thews.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 4:58 pm
I think you will find that the various venues cancelled the meetings because their public liability insurers wouldn’t cover them. That’s why Barnett, O’Farrell etc might have their hands tied.

That and a facebook campaign boycotting the establishments that would dare to host Wilders..

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 4:58 pm
Totalitarian SFB is the only one to advocate a police attack upon protesters. People here have been speaking up for free speech, but not your SFB. No, he never speaks up for any freedoms the State wants to take away; he prefers to talk about inflicting violence.

He’s cool with young, bearded muslim men rioting through perth like they did in Sydney because a “funny looking” dutch man talks about them.

Then he lectures us about “tolerance” and “religious fundamentalism” by quoting the pope.

Quite the addled brain has steve the addict.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 5:03 pm
Make up your mind Sven… either you don’t like being called that or you claim it.

Thanks for “thews”… my word for the day.

mct

19 Feb 13 at 5:05 pm
Carpe, if you were Welsh, you could put those Thews in Trews.

There are a great many fine Welsh folks, and it is sad that She Who I Will Not Name has sullied them

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 5:05 pm
The good news is that under the proposed “Free Speech” laws, Wilders could sue Barnett and Baillieu for offense.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 5:07 pm
What do you want: all protesters to be water cannoned? Release the dogs? If that had happened at the carbon tax rallies, would that have been a problem?

Peaceful protests are fine. Everything that these solidarity douchebags turn up to end up in a riot and an orgy and vandalism and crime.

So yes, they should be water cannoned if they break the law. Typically, police let them do whatever they want.

Yobbo

19 Feb 13 at 5:07 pm
Re above:

I’m thinking the Welsh version of Bananas in Pajamas.

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 5:08 pm
mct - it is sort of if i was that deluded to believe gillzilla, then i would be sven.

But i don’t, so i’m not. Confused yet?

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 5:08 pm
Nah, S. Carpe Jugulum has such a nice ring to it.

mct

19 Feb 13 at 5:10 pm
Geert should go to the UK to learn how well multiculti is working there.

Muslim
Preacher Tells Followers Getting Welfare Cash For Holy Wars Is Easy And Right

“Ah, but you see people will say you are not working. But the normal situation is for you to take money from the Kuffar (non-Muslim) So we take Jihad Seeker’s Allowance.”

Rudiau

19 Feb 13 at 5:13 pm
I owe it all to reading books.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34541.Carpe_Jugulum

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 5:14 pm
What do you want: all protesters to be water cannoned? Release the dogs? If that had happened at the carbon tax rallies, would that have been a problem?

SoB, you really are shrill and nasty panty twisting dope.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 5:20 pm
Insisting politely that he did not want to incite or offend anyone, the anti-Islam campaigner described the Prophet Muhammed as “a warlord, terrorist and paedophile” and urged Australia to ban the Koran and all migration from Muslim countries.

Nope, nothing in there that I would expect a protest over…

steve from brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 5:28 pm
Own every book he’s written, S. Carpe.

‘Tis very sad that the end is near.

mct

19 Feb 13 at 5:33 pm
Some of his proposed solutions such as banning Islamic immigration, could well be described as radical and extreme …

On the other hand banning Islamic immigration could well be described as sensible.

jupes

19 Feb 13 at 5:36 pm
So we take Jihad Seeker’s Allowance.

AKA the Jizya.

Rabz

19 Feb 13 at 5:37 pm
Oh, f*cking great.

The return of semenblogger shitferbrains.

That’s made my week…

Rabz

19 Feb 13 at 5:40 pm
And a great book you are Carpe. I have read you well and enjoyed you too.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 5:40 pm
The social engineers at the Department of Immigration already do exert control over how many of what sort come from where, they just don’t talk about it so they don’t get labelled. Gert Wilders is just asking for the Islam knob to be turned to a trickle or to zero even, nothing particularly controversial about that on reflection.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 5:45 pm
Gert Wilders is just asking for the Islam knob to be turned to ~~a trickle or to~~ zero ~~even~~, nothing particularly controversial about that on reflection.

You know it makes sense.

jupes

19 Feb 13 at 5:47 pm
‘Tis very sad that the end is near.

Yes it is, i remember a few years ago when he was going to do a speaking tour in Oz and when it was cancelled they explained his altzheimers (dementia), very sad, i loved his sense of humour. Cohen the Barbarian was a favourite.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 5:52 pm
Watching ABC 24 while having lunch, I noticed that someone had snuck up on Tubbsy while she was baying at the moon, shot her with a tranquiliser dart, and pointed her at the Press Club.

And then the hilarity started.

She tipped a gigantic bucket of purest sh*t on Gillard, then went into an abbottabbottabbott frenzy and chewed the carpet until her handlers cudgelled her back to the podium. Aside from humping every married unionist (one would not use the word ‘men’ for such creatures), screeched this Greater Australian Loon (Latrator Luna Vespertilio), The Lying Slapper is also humping the entire Australia mining industry, it howled. This was followed by a second abbottabbottabbott frenzy which saw severe damage done to a table-leg. Tasered once more into submission and secured to the podium with a dog-chain (rabid dogs for the restraint of), this thing tipped a second bucket of sh*t on to The Lying Slapper, snarling that ‘da twayta’ Gillard had walked away from her deal with the greenfilth to exchange bodily secretions with every miner in the nation, so The Lying Slapper could take her agreement with the greenfilth, fold it until it was all pointy bits, dust it with ground glass and ram it where the sun don’t shine. Sans lube.

Brought up short by her tamer with a cattle prod to the freckle, Tubbsy went into a third abbottabbottabbott frenzy, savaging a chair and cocking her leg on the wall before guaranteeing both supply for the Slapper and the fastest possible double dissolution trigger for an incoming Abbott government by utterly refusing to permit the mining or carbon taxes to be repealed. After a final abbottabbottabbott frenzy which included hurling her own excreta at the walls, the creature demanded tremendous new spending on everything up to and including publicly funded fluffers for endangered species participating in critterporn movies.

A gobsmacked media, cowering behind a barricade of upturned tables, threw the odd softball question at the snarling, spitting, bodily-waste hurling creature whirling as a dervish in front of them like a demented Tasmanian devil on crack, but most of the replies were an unintelligible sh*tstorm of broken wails and bestial screams. Among the word fragments heard were ‘abbottabbottabbott’, ‘carbintaxforevah’, ‘abbottabbottabbott’, ‘gaiagaiagaiaoioioi’, ‘abbottabbottabbott’, ‘juliarfatslagshagsminers’, ‘abbottabbottabbott’, ‘laborscumverminfilthracetraitorsHEILgaia’ and ‘abbottabbottabbott’.

The creature’s handlers then returned her to her cage atop the parliament house flagpole, where the deep sound of her baying now echoes across Capitol Circle as she salutes the rising moon in the manner of her type of genetic reject.

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 5:53 pm
Count me as a Pratchett fan also.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 5:55 pm
everything up to and including publicly funded fluffers for endangered species participating in critterporn movies.

A++ will buy again

brc

19 Feb 13 at 5:55 pm
Well he’s suggesting to us that’s wise.

Imagine if our journalists weren’t cowards and Ted or Barnett were getting interviewed:

“In his home country the Netherlands Geert Wilders’ Party for Freedom has attracted up to 20 % of the vote, would it be your contention that 1 in 5 Dutch voters are racist?”

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 5:59 pm
I never knew there were so many Pratchettphiles here.

everything up to and including publicly funded fluffers for endangered species participating in critterporn movies.

Sounds a bit like the greens policy platform doesn’t it.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 6:04 pm
On the other hand banning Islamic immigration could well be described as sensible.

I wouldn’t ban it totally. Free-thinking sufis, secularists and homosexuals should be welcomed from the Muslim world if they are under threat. But I would take none of the jihadist “refugees” who come over here claiming to be oppressed by governments whose policies they basically support. Do the queue-jumpers seriously oppose sharia in countries like Afghanistan and Iran?

Fisky

19 Feb 13 at 6:05 pm
Mk50, I do wish you’d stop posting wishy-washy comments like this, and tell us what you really think.

P.S. You left out the electric-cooled pony-harness, with fuel injection, fuel injection …

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 6:08 pm
Harsh but fair, Mark. I loved the bit about the double dissolution trigger, which has become the new fatal death ray that the entire Green left animal enclosure is now desperately trying to evade. Pity our man Abbott lacks the necessary killer instinct — a failing which will eventually kill him.

Tom

19 Feb 13 at 6:14 pm
I note via BoltA that Wilders has a permanent bodyguard of 5 Dutch cops (who are with him in Australia).

Freedom of speech ain’t free, it seems.

johanna

19 Feb 13 at 6:14 pm
Mk 50
PURE BRILLIANCE…..talk about a great laugh…..and…it was all true!

Eyeguy

19 Feb 13 at 6:15 pm
I never knew there were so many Pratchettphiles here.

My only wish is that I’d had time to read more of his stuff Carpe. I subscribe to his Facebook page too and it often has a good amount of info on the man himself and his interests.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 6:15 pm
Freedom of speech ain’t free, it seems.

Never has been really.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 6:15 pm
Free-thinking sufis, secularists and homosexuals should be welcomed from the Muslim world if they are under threat.

No. Ban the Sufis, they are fans of Sharia. Secularists and homosexuals are not Muslim.

jupes

19 Feb 13 at 6:18 pm
Rudd at $1.70 Gillard $2.25 to be ALP leader.

Sinclair Davidson

19 Feb 13 at 6:20 pm
Sufism doesn’t champion sharia.

From Wikipedia:

Sufism is defined by its adherents as the inner, mystical dimension of Islam. A practitioner of this tradition is generally known as a sufi.

Sufis believe they are practicing ihsan (perfection of worship) as revealed by Gabriel to Muhammad, “Worship and serve Allah as you are seeing Him and while you see Him not yet truly He sees you.”

Sufis consider themselves as the original true proponents of this pure original form of Islam.

They are strong adherents to the principal of tolerance, peace and against any form of violence.

The Sufi have suffered severe persecution by their coreligionist brothers the Wahhabi and the Salafist.

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 6:25 pm
I note that Ben Roberts-Smith has just quit the SAS. Don’t spose he’d be available to do TA’s double dissolution strategy and parliamentary tactics?

Tom

19 Feb 13 at 6:25 pm
The traditional Sufi orders, which are in majority, emphasize the role of Sufism as a spiritual discipline within Islam. Therefore, the Sharia (traditional Islamic law) and the Sunnah are seen as crucial for any Sufi aspirant.

Also from wiki. (Read down).

jupes

19 Feb 13 at 6:26 pm
Rudd at $1.70 Gillard $2.25 to be ALP leader.

Wow.

That means money must be passing hands.

I still cannot see it but anything is possible.

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 6:27 pm
There’s plenty of terribly persecuted and oppressed Copts, Maronites and other Middle eastern Christians to bring in instead of more wefare shoppers and terrorists.

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 6:28 pm
There’s plenty of terribly persecuted and oppressed Copts, Maronites and other Middle eastern Christians to bring in instead of more wefare shoppers and terrorists.

There’s millions of Europeans, Asians and Americans before we even cast an eye over that shit splattered toilet known as the Middle East. Leave them all be, they deserve each other.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 6:34 pm
The Middle East Christians are being persecuted presently.

We either save them in a separate homeland there ala Israel or welcome them here with open arms.

They know how how to turn a penny.

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 6:37 pm
I note that Ben Roberts-Smith has just quit the SAS

As long as he never quits the Dockers.

Yobbo

19 Feb 13 at 6:39 pm
Nilk was right about the ferals.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/stop-islamic-immigration-wilders/story-e6frf7kf-1226581163914

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 6:41 pm
There’s millions of Europeans, Asians and Americans before we even cast an eye over that shit splattered toilet known as the Middle East. Leave them all be, they deserve each other.

Yea? There was the lunacy of allowing thousands of limey whiners in the 70′s who quickly turned into shop stewards and stuff like that. How did that work out.

Leave the Euroweenies to fester in their own filth. We don’t need them here.

As for Americans… be careful as you could end up with Californians and we know where that ends up.

Jc

19 Feb 13 at 6:44 pm
They are chanting as they push back anyone trying to get inside the venue.

Nice country we’ve got. Arrest them or smash their faces into the dirt.

The left are evil and must be crushed.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 6:46 pm
Is Wilders coming to speak in brisbane?

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 6:46 pm
WikiLeaks cables: Pope wanted Muslim Turkey kept out of EU.

Gee, I wonder why.

The pope is responsible for the Vatican’s growing hostility towards Turkey joining the EU, previously secret cables sent from the US embassy to the Holy See in Rome claim.

In 2004 Cardinal Ratzinger, the future pope, spoke out against letting a Muslim state join, although at the time the Vatican was formally neutral on the question.

The Vatican’s acting foreign minister, Monsignor Pietro Parolin, responded by telling US diplomats that Ratzinger’s comments were his own rather than the official Vatican position.

The cable released by WikiLeaks shows that Ratzinger was the leading voice behind the Holy See’s unsuccessful drive to secure a reference to Europe’s “Christian roots” in the EU constitution. The US diplomat noted that Ratzinger “clearly understands that allowing a Muslim country into the EU would further weaken his case for Europe’s Christian foundations”.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 6:48 pm
A group of about 40 protesters have blocked the gate leading into the Somerton function centre.

They have physically stopped people from entering and have pushed some people to the ground.

They are chanting as they push back anyone trying to get inside the venue.

A large number of police, including mounted police, are standing right behind the protesters and so far have made no attempt to move them.

Were any Muslims involved? Or just the usual useful idiots of Islamists. And not et he police standing back allowing violence to proceed.

The protesters say Mr Wilders is a racist.

Morons. Islam is not a race and Muslim is not a race. k’idiots.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 6:48 pm
Breaking corruption scandal:

Julia Gillard’s links to Federal Court candidate Bernard Murphy ‘not revealed’.

Also at Bolt’s.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 6:51 pm
The left of course are thick as pig shit and ugly to boot. If they’d allowed this polite Dutchman to have his say, he would have generated next to know media coverage, but thanks to their intolerance he has garnered millions of dollars of free publicity and millions of free thinking Australians have now heard his sage words.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 6:51 pm
Live breaking…

Leftist supporters of Islamic terrorism bash and assault members of the public:

PROTESTERS have pushed people to the ground as they try to stop a Melbourne speech by controversial Dutch MP Geert Wilders.

A group of about 40 protesters have blocked the gate leading into the Somerton function centre.

They have physically stopped people from entering and have pushed some people to the ground.

They are chanting as they push back anyone trying to get inside the venue.

Daily Teleraph link.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 6:54 pm
SNAP etc.

[I know - slow coach etc].

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 6:55 pm
You could try scrolling up occasionally, CL.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 6:56 pm
Breaking corruption scandal:

Julia Gillard’s links to Federal Court candidate Bernard Murphy ‘not revealed’.

If only they’d read Kangaroo Court of Australia site way back then.

http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2011/10/17/julia-gillard-appoints-bernard-murphy-her-partner-in-crime-from-slater-and-gordon-lawyers-as-a-federal-court-of-australia-judge/

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 6:58 pm
Lol

Documents released under Freedom of Information to The Australian show that the public servants who helped manage the selection process, including background checks, did not know of the long-standing relationship between Bernard Murphy and Ms Gillard until it was raised in media reports in 2011, soon after the appointment was approved by cabinet.

So every person vetting the selection didn’t figure that both Murphy and the Lying slapper worked at Slater and Gordon.

It didn’t twitch one single brain cell.

Who the fuck are they trying to kid?

The entire APS is fucking corrupt.

Jc

19 Feb 13 at 7:02 pm
What do you thinking the commie fruitcakes are chanting outside the Wilders gig? “Free free Palestine”. This is a far left propaganda event for the TV cameras. Nothing to do with Wilders.

Tom

19 Feb 13 at 7:04 pm
Arrest them or smash their faces into the dirt.

Agreed.

Why isn’t any one fighting back, FFS?

Rabz

19 Feb 13 at 7:04 pm
“One thing that Robert McClelland did when he was made Attorney General was to set up two so-called independent panels to advise on appointments. One for Federal Court of Australia judges and another for Federal Magistrates Court of Australia magistrates. (click here for more) This was for the purpose as he put it “the Government has implemented more transparent processes to ensure that appointments are clearly based on merit, so that the public can have confidence that the Government is making the best possible judicial appointments.” (Click here to read the full posting)

When Bernard Murphy was appointed a judge in April 2011 this is what Robert McClelland had to say: “In 2008, the Attorney-General introduced new processes for appointing judges and magistrates to federal courts to ensure greater transparency and public confidence in the judicial appointments process.”

“The advisory panel comprised Chief Justice Patrick Keane, Sir Gerard Brennan AC KBE, the Hon Acting Justice Jane Mathews AO and a senior official of the Attorney-General’s Department.” (Click here to read the press release) Obviously the three mentioned had no say in the appointment of Bernard Murphy but are happy to get paid and have their name used to give the appointment some credibility. All it really shows is how deceitful they are and that they have sold their soul for a dollar. Real classy people.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 7:04 pm
Why isn’t any one fighting back, FFS?

Why isn’t Mr Plod making arrests?

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 7:05 pm
Why isn’t Mr Plod making arrests?

Because victorian ‘police’ are fat, lazy, stupid, corrupt taxeating fairies.

Rabz

19 Feb 13 at 7:09 pm
A group of about 40 protesters blocked the gate leading into the Somerton function centre and were seen physically stopping people from entering, even pushing some people to the ground, as they chanted.

A large number of police, including mounted police, were on scene but have made no attempts to move them on.

Useless as tits on a bull.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 7:10 pm
Rabz – harsh but fair, welcome to Melbournistan comrade.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 7:11 pm
What chance even one of the scum would be ballsy enough to turn up if Russ Hinze was Police Minster.
We had utterly no BS in those days. Cops beat the shit out of you and the pollies went on tv to laud the cops.
That is why I love a police state

WhaleHunt Fun

19 Feb 13 at 7:16 pm
People should have brought their pet pigs. Big old sows never ever get pushed around. Even by bloody big boars.

WhaleHunt Fun

19 Feb 13 at 7:18 pm
Why isn’t any one fighting back, FFS?

I saw this older guy being pushed to the ground by a younger version of Lurch.

Leftwingers are always brave when they work in packs – or more aptly mobs.

Jc

19 Feb 13 at 7:21 pm
I need to explain that I saw it on the news.

Jc

19 Feb 13 at 7:22 pm
Live Pistorius updates via on @barrybateman on twitter.

https://twitter.com/barrybateman

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 7:32 pm
I never knew there were so many Pratchettphiles here.

I’ve always had a fondness of Terry.

I do wonder if the nuclear plant he did PR for is the one which Senator Il Duce Red Underpants shed some faux tears about.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 7:36 pm
In 2004 Cardinal Ratzinger, the future pope, spoke out against letting a Muslim state join, although at the time the Vatican was formally neutral on the question.

Can you imagine how big the economic meltdown would’ve been if Turkey was able to set up a Greek style welfare state?

Ratzinger made the rationale decision.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 7:42 pm
What the police need is water hoses used by the MFB. It would get the lefties running very quickly when they put up a fight but also give them a good clean.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 7:45 pm
The police do not go anywhere near those protesting against Israel, for Palestine, nor do they do anything about illegal union blockades or people publicly advocating beheadings in melbournistan.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 7:48 pm
if Turkey was able to set up a Greek style welfare state?

You mean like parts of south-west Sydney?

blogstrop

19 Feb 13 at 7:48 pm
Why isn’t Mr Plod making arrests?

Because victorian ‘police’ are fat, lazy, stupid, corrupt taxeating fairies.

The Vic Police have a long history of enabling violent lefties when protesting…

…Attack on Vic parliament in ’93 with bricks, the waterfront dispute, G20 conference, Baida & Grollo thuggery, the list goes on and on…

Token

19 Feb 13 at 7:49 pm
Hey CL, you read this?
Ya know about the vacation the Kenyan went on all by himself (not with his family)? Guess who was a guest?

President Obama has returned to Washington, from his solo vacation. He finally talked with the press on the ride back.

AF1 wheels down Andrews at 7:45pm. POTUS came back to have a 10-minute off the record talk with pool at the end of the flight.

Reggie Love departed AF1 soon after POTUS, apparently a guest for the weekend.

Jc

19 Feb 13 at 7:57 pm
The 7.30 Report fights back against suggestions that the ABC be defunded with a report on the Defence Force that smacks of “we didn’t really mean it last night, we actually like the JSF and assorted killing machines.”

blogstrop

19 Feb 13 at 7:59 pm
Geez, my heart just filled with the ” normal ” of my summer youth.
23 mm ( almost an inch ) of rain in 15 minutes, no wind.
Now it’s gone, still warm but cooling
Right on dusk.
Loved it.
( If I had a poetic bone in my body I would have poeticised the fuck out of this moment )

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 8:01 pm
You did, Jump, in your own way.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 8:03 pm
HaHa, thanks for saying that Gab but I know my limitations and poetry is a bigy.

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 8:07 pm
Geez, my heart just filled
with the ” normal ” of my summer youth.
23 mm ( almost an inch ) of rain
in 15 minutes, strewth!
No wind.
Now it’s gone, still warm but cooling
Right on dusk. Loved it. No foolin’

– Jumpnmcar, Poet of the Norf.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 8:11 pm
I like a good limerick though.

Roses ar red.
Violets are glorious.
Happy Valentines Day,
Mrs Pistorius.

Simple but direct.

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 8:14 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 8:15 pm
I like a good limerick though.

roses are red
violets are blue
i have sexdaily
sorry – dyslexia

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 8:17 pm
Cohen the Barbarian was a favourite.

Always a Luggage man meself..

mct

19 Feb 13 at 8:18 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

Yes it’s a bit of a crutch.

Carpe Jugulum

19 Feb 13 at 8:18 pm
What the police need is water hoses used by the MFB. It would get the lefties running very quickly when they put up a fight but also give them a good clean.

As Sam Kekovich says at 48sec:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPGSs56lZEQ

John Mc

19 Feb 13 at 8:23 pm
Oscar smoked a Reeva bro…

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 8:24 pm
Looks like Oscar is going to do a Swan it wasn’t me.

Honesty

19 Feb 13 at 8:25 pm
You’re very lucky to live where you live, Jump. But, please, four inches an hour is what the north calls useful rain, not a deluge.

Tom

19 Feb 13 at 8:26 pm
four inches an hour is what the north calls useful rain, not a deluge.

Agreed Tom but it’s normally got 75 knots of cyclone up its arse.
I like this kind.

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 8:30 pm
Swan is really out of sorts he confused being scared of the Tea Party rather than Tea Bagger McTernan.

Honesty

19 Feb 13 at 8:31 pm
Always a Luggage man meself..

I like Death, especially when Ronny Soak came back to reunite the band.

Token

19 Feb 13 at 8:34 pm
Dunno if this has been mentioned but the Tassie state Liberals are THIRTY TWO PERCENT ahead of Labor……

I think even Malcolm Farr would have a hard time spinning that……

MDMConnell

19 Feb 13 at 8:39 pm
A Troy Akin moment from the anti-Gun loonies:

Colorado Democrat: Women Don’t Need Guns If They ‘Feel Like They’re Going To Be Raped’

Token

19 Feb 13 at 8:42 pm
I don’t think its been mentioned on here just yet but the philosopher Ronald Dworkin died Thursday last week, aged 81.

dover_beach

19 Feb 13 at 9:01 pm
“Knock out game” thug shot dead…

St. Louis “Knock-Out” Artist Meets His Match – Breaks Into Home and Is Shot Dead.

In October 2011 Matt Quain was walking home from a local Schnuck’s grocery store when he was jumped by a gang in a “knock-out game” attack. Quain’s jaw was shattered. He had several broken bones on his face. He was nearly killed. St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay was the first person on the scene after Matt Quain was beaten unconscious by a mob of teens.

The thugs beat the victim with bricks on a busy St. Louis street.

Later several of the teens were arrested including 13 year-old Demetrius Murphy but charges were dropped after a witness refused to show up in court.

On Friday, Demetrius Murphy was killed by a gun-owner after being involved in a burglary.

Demetrius was shot dead.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 9:08 pm
On the nine o’clock news, Albanese says the Greens have “lost their way” since Bob Brown retired. Don’t try to do satire, Albo. Leave that to the union clowns at the ALP’s funeral.

Tom

19 Feb 13 at 9:08 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

I believe that the defence team of Oscar Pistorius are going to use a ‘roid rage angle. I think that if they use this tactic, Oscar won’t have a leg to stand on.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

19 Feb 13 at 9:10 pm
Has Rafe done this yet?

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem.

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 9:11 pm
Demetrius was shot dead.

Karma’s a SIG-Sauer toting byatch.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 9:15 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

Hasn’t got a leg to stand on …..

Leigh Lowe

19 Feb 13 at 9:15 pm
“Night Watch” is probably the best time travel novel I’ve read. It’s use of quantum uncertainty to eliminate some of the paradoxes inherent in time travel tales was logical, and its portrayal of the back story of well known Ankh-Morpork identities was clever and refreshing.

Cold-Hands

19 Feb 13 at 9:17 pm
Lefties try violence, but my experience is that they are all girls when it comes to a real fight.

Rococo Liberal

19 Feb 13 at 9:21 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

Police are stumped !!

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 9:22 pm
Rudd at $1.70 Gillard $2.25 to be ALP leader.

Coalition leadership as at next election ……. Abbott $1.02, Turnbull $5.50.

But it won’t stop Q&A devoting 20 minutes to it every week between here and the election (whenever Kevin calls it).

$1.02!!!!!
That is Black Caviar odds with a small allowance for the possibility of a bus accident.

Leigh Lowe

19 Feb 13 at 9:22 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

Shot himself in the foot.
But at least he still has a spring in his step.

Leigh Lowe

19 Feb 13 at 9:23 pm
Anyone making jokes about Oscar Pistorius are just prosthetic!

C’mon!!
Who hasn’t knocked down a few beers, been busting for a piss, and unloaded a clip into the dunny door to get the bride to stop straightening her hair and let you in.

Leigh Lowe

19 Feb 13 at 9:27 pm
“Knock out game” thug shot dead…

Never bring a brick to a gunfight…

.

19 Feb 13 at 9:31 pm
I fear a case of O. J. Pistorious coming on.

Leigh Lowe

19 Feb 13 at 9:33 pm
I fear a case of O. J. Pistorious coming on.

And the Oscar goes to…..

jumpnmcar

19 Feb 13 at 9:35 pm
Wilders to be interviewed on Channel Ten late news.

Cold-Hands

19 Feb 13 at 9:35 pm
Rudd at $1.70 Gillard $2.25 to be ALP leader.

I gave up predicting what the ALP are going to do a long time ago. Half the members of the ALP aren’t even aware of what is going on, and they’re in the party room. We the public have zero hope of working out what next from the goat rodeo.

brc

19 Feb 13 at 9:41 pm
kae at 2pm

Linky 2

Note link 1, paragraph 2 of the first academic. Pffft, not much success eh?
But good for e-health ventures, as Judith Sloan is questioning in her article.

Jessie

19 Feb 13 at 9:42 pm
A Troy Akin moment from the anti-Gun loonies:

Colorado Democrat: Women Don’t Need Guns If They ‘Feel Like They’re Going To Be Raped’

The selfish fool’s name was Todd Akin

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 9:45 pm
O. J. Pistorious is as innocent as Hanse Cronje.

Leigh Lowe

19 Feb 13 at 9:50 pm
I note that Ben Roberts-Smith has just quit the SAS. Don’t spose he’d be available to do TA’s double dissolution strategy and parliamentary tactics?
Despite News Ltd reports that he was leaving, he in fact is only taking long service leave. He could, however, still be available to consult on tactics.

Cold-Hands

19 Feb 13 at 9:55 pm
Since when has any female been able to make a male do anything he doesn’t want to do?!

All the the bloody time. Aren’t you aware of the power you have.

face ache

19 Feb 13 at 10:00 pm
Justifiable excuses for shooting into a locked bathroom door which you know your girlfriend is hiding behind:

- You really really needed to go.
- You think it’s hot watching girls pee and wanted a viewing hole.
- You thought it would help her constipation.

…he might be in some trouble Oscar.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 10:00 pm
Apparently – source: somebody on The Project last year – Roberts-Smith is so handy in the ring he could win a title in the heavy-weight or super heavy-weight division. Armed or not, this is not sombody you want to fuck with.

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 10:01 pm
Going to be medieval times in Holland for some time to come ………………………

Many Dutch households are turning to solar power in the search for green energy, according to the Dutch central statistics office, but the country lags far behind Germany and Italy, the most prolific users of solar power in Europe.

Jessie

19 Feb 13 at 10:02 pm
Ahoy, Mark50:

What did you make of the JSF story on 4 Corners?

What goes on?

C.L.

19 Feb 13 at 10:03 pm
Great Moments in Green Madness #9,367

HUNDREDS of thousands of solar panels are at risk of setting roofs on fire because of an electrical fault, Dutch authorities and media warned, with 15 roof fires already reported in Europe.

Now-bankrupt Scheuten Solar Systems has reportedly sold at least 650,000 of its “Multisol” panels in Europe and 15,000 in the Netherlands.

“These solar panels have a faulty electrical connection which constitutes a fire hazard,” the Dutch Food and Goods Authority (NVWA) said in Tuesday’s statement.

“People who have these dangerous solar panels on their roofs are advised to disconnect them in a safe manner,” it added.

Steve of Ferny Hills

19 Feb 13 at 10:10 pm
snap!

Steve of Ferny Hills

19 Feb 13 at 10:11 pm
Septimus.

Hammerfall. Glory to the Brave.

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 10:11 pm
Why is it
That the male of the species
Is so truculent?
Standing in gates
Not letting others through
As I run
Like a blue arsed fly
Buzzing about them
Amongst the Buffalo Flies on their backs.
Full of green grass and sass
Objecting with all their maleness
The necessity of drafting
Before they join the girls.
If only I could talk Bull
And tell them
‘Listen guys, work with me here
And soon you will have untold pleasure”
But no, they dodge and baulk and bellow
Outweighing me by more than 10 times
Watch a few, heads up
But most are kind
And oblige eventually
In the wet shirt humidity
Under the Thunder
With the promise of rain.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 10:19 pm
Sorry, CL, missed it all. Deep in research on Imperial policy responses to protecting the Empire’s merchant shipping 1913-14, especially regarding the development of the state War Risk Insurance scheme through the mechanisms created by the North England and Liverpool Shipowner’s War Risk Insurance Club (and others) from 1899.

FWIW my earlier comments on F-35 still stand, though. people will insist on looking at F-35 as a stand-alone aircraft, rather than as just one node in a (mostly) space and air-based networked and effects-based combat system. So long as they have that focus, they have little idea what they are talking about. And few do, really. Most people still have an ancient WWII mindset relating to aerial warfare, so they cannot possibly understand what is actually going on.

Mk50 of Brisbane

19 Feb 13 at 10:20 pm
Frankie Boyle ‏@frankieboyle
Reeva Steenkamp’s last moments must have been like a scene from Terminator

Need to say I really feel sorry for her and think Oscar is the biggest prick in the world right now.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 10:30 pm
SOMETHING startling is happening in the Muslim world – and no, I don’t mean the Arab Spring or the growth of Islamic fundamentalism. According to a leading demographer, a “sea change” is producing a sharp decline in Muslim fertility rates and a “flight from marriage” among Arab women.

Nicholas Eberstadt, a scholar with the American Enterprise Institute, documented these findings in two recent papers. They tell a story that contradicts the usual picture of a continuing population explosion in Muslim lands. Population is indeed rising, but if present trends continue, the bulge won’t last long.

Eberstadt’s first paper was expressively titled “Fertility Decline in the Muslim World: A Veritable Sea-Change, Still Curiously Unnoticed”. Using data for 49 Muslim-majority countries and territories, he found fertility rates declined an average of 41 per cent between 1975-80 and 2005-10, compared with a 33 per cent decline for the world as a whole.

Twenty-two Muslim countries and territories had fertility declines of 50 per cent or more. Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Libya, Albania, Qatar and Kuwait all recorded declines of 60 per cent or more.

Fertility in Iran declined an astonishing 70 per cent over the 30-year period, which Eberstadt says was “one of the most rapid and pronounced fertility declines ever recorded in human history”. A July 2012 Financial Times story placed the Iranian fertility rate even lower and cited a UN report warning that Iran’s population would begin to shrink in two decades and would decline by more than 50 per cent by the end of the century if present trends continued.

Jc

19 Feb 13 at 10:31 pm
WA election debate is on ABC 24 if anyone is interested.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 10:41 pm
Barnett is not debating very well. McGowan is attacking.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 10:54 pm
Bloody hell this debate is biased.

I can’t believe the softball to McGowan from Hutchison. “You once showed great personal courage…. Tell us when you have shown political courage?”

Not to mention the way they have set up
The cameras.

Infidel tiger

19 Feb 13 at 10:57 pm
Twenty-two Muslim countries and territories had fertility declines of 50 per cent or more. Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Libya, Albania, Qatar and Kuwait all recorded declines of 60 per cent or more.

Goat population is on the increase in these countries. Case closed

Splatacrobat

19 Feb 13 at 11:11 pm
On 13 Feb Reeva would have gone out with her friends, me with mine. She wanted to stay at home.
I was wathing TV. My legs were off. She was doing yoga. At the end of the evening we got into bed.
I’m accutely aware of people gaining entries to homes to commit crime, I’ve received death threats.
I sleep with my 9mm under my bed. I woke up to close the sliding door and heard a noise in the bathroom.
I was scared and didnt switch on the light. I got my gun and moved towards the bathroom. I screamed at the intruder.
because I did not have my legs on I felt vulnerable. I fired shots through the bathroom door and told Reeva to call police.
I walked back to the bed and realised Reeva was not in bed. Its then it dawned on me it could be her in there.
I kicked the door open. Called paramedics and complex security. I tried to carry her down stairs for help.
I tried to help her but she died in my arms.
with the benefit of hindsight I realise that Reeva went to the bathroom when I went to close the balcony door.
I am an international sports star, I will not evade my trial.

Guy with no legs thinks intruder is in house, doesn’t realise girlfriend is not sleeping in same bed. Proceeds to investigate without legs not thinking that it might be a good idea to get 2 legged girlfriend to help, not thinking that she is at risk too.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:11 pm
Would that be Geoff Hutchison, formerly of Twitter?

He’s off the naughty spot now. I’m sure there is no bias at all.

H B Bear

19 Feb 13 at 11:17 pm
There is something missing from this statement. A cricket bat with blood on it.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 11:17 pm
Oh right, he went to close the sliding door. So she was there when he awoke before that, but went to the crapper. He naturally thought the person in the crapper was a burglar and not his gf, and proceeded to shoot through the door without confirming if it was her. He never looked at the bed to check if she was there. Oh it was dark, how dark?

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:18 pm
Labor’s MetroNet seems like a massive cost blow out project that Labor Governments are famous for. It will not cost $3.8 billion.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 11:19 pm
fertility declines of 50 per cent or more.

Sounds a lot but if you are coming off an average of, say, 8 or 10 kids, then the result is still waaaay over 1.7 or whatever western is.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 11:19 pm
I did not have my legs on I felt vulnerable. I fired shots

but then

walked back to the bed

I kicked the door open.

uh-huh. sure.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 11:19 pm
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

Read the detail on who they actually surveyed. The survey was heavily biased towards geoscientists and engineers working in the petroleum industry and still they discovered that a third of them believe that climate change is caused by man. As one of the comments on the article points out that’s like surveying tobacco company employees and asking them if the product they sell kills people.

Chris

19 Feb 13 at 11:25 pm
The bloodied cricket bat is still missing, Harold, perhaps she hit herself in the head with it for not telling him she was going to have a wee?

My take is that he bashed her with the bat and then tried to cover it up by shooting her strong girl, she still didn’t die, even after he called his family first before the ambos, when the ambos got there she was still breathing.

He is a developing psychopath grub. Unchecked he will emerge into a psychopath blood sucking moth.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 11:25 pm
JC – that could perhaps just be down to increased access to birth control and increasing wealth and medical care (don’t need to have as many children to ensure there is someone around to look after you when you can’t)

Chris

19 Feb 13 at 11:29 pm
fertility declines of 50 per cent or more.

I’m not surprised. If I had to face making love to a duffle bag every night, I’d probably suffer a decline in libido too.

Splatacrobat

19 Feb 13 at 11:30 pm
The bloodied cricket bat is still missing, Harold, perhaps she hit herself in the head with it for not telling him she was going to have a wee?

Yea from what has been released so far there is no way he can possibly argue accidental death or self defence. The only possibility I can see of him not being guilty of murder is if there was someone else in the house – one armed man?

Chris

19 Feb 13 at 11:32 pm
Barnett came back strong in the second half of the debate. McGowan was not very definitive.

Andrew

19 Feb 13 at 11:32 pm
I know about the cricket bat but I’m not trusting everything the media has thrown up at this stage.

I don’t see any mention of a cricket bat in this present court hearing so maybe it isn’t relevant.

Most bedrooms aren’t very big and I reckon they’ll show that there was enough light in the room that he should have been aware of her. Regardless, his story is just too stupid, shooting bullets off at noises without even making himself aware of the girlfriend who would be at risk too if it was an intruder.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:34 pm
Did anyone else in Brisbane hear the interview/conversation between Steve Austin and the Qld Minister for, crap, what’s his title? Multiculti crap and aborigines.

Oh, he’s the state Minister for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander and Multicultural Affairs, Glen Elmes.

His discussion of the issue of the feuding indigenous and islander families was truly gobsmacking.

These people are a minority, the troublemakers. It’s apparently a feud between two families who were friends for eight years.

The government needs to do something so they’re going to throw money at the problem.

What they should be doing is showing zero tolerance of violence and rioting, there are laws against this and they should be enforced. Bugger “cultural” issues. It’s not good to support culture which is happy to go the biff and bash to settle a perceived problem. Why do these people get away with this?

Why is society blamed for these people who can’t live without stirring up trouble, the misfits who won’t fit in?

Throwing money at the problem, employing heaps of “liaison” officers to “educate” people; urging the youth to take notice of the elders, will not help, it will just make the perpetrators of the cultural violence feel important. They are a minority and they should have the book thrown at them when they are antisocial.

Damn, I wish I could find the interview!

kae

19 Feb 13 at 11:36 pm
If I had to face making love to a duffle bag every night,

Better a live duffle bag than a goat you have to sell to the neighboring village next day or kill and not eat. From the holy writings.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 11:37 pm
I know about the cricket bat but I’m not trusting everything the media has thrown up at this stage.

Yeah and what about the supposed depressed skull fracture to Steenkamp in addition to the bullet wounds?

JamesK

19 Feb 13 at 11:38 pm
Read the detail on who they actually surveyed. The survey was heavily biased towards geoscientists and engineers working in the petroleum industry and still they discovered that a third of them believe that climate change is caused by man. As one of the comments on the article points out that’s like surveying tobacco company employees and asking them if the product they sell kills people.

Or like surveying tax payer funded university employed career “climate scientists” and expecting them to ever admit they are wrong.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 11:38 pm
Local human population down. Goat population up.

Hmmmm. Which way has the mean daily stink level gone?
Down I would guess

WhaleHunt Fun

19 Feb 13 at 11:39 pm
OK I see he used the cricket bat to break the door down, he says. And I would presume the bad has connected with her head in the process of doing that.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:39 pm
Is this it Kae?

Splatacrobat

19 Feb 13 at 11:40 pm
I know about the cricket bat but I’m not trusting everything the media has thrown up at this stage.

Yeah and what about the supposed depressed skull fracture to Steenkamp in addition to the bullet wounds?

It’s pretty obvious what happened. They were playing indoor cricket, she disputed his call of LBW, so he beat her skull in, locked her in the bathroom and shot her 4 times through the door.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 11:43 pm
So what if tobacco kills?
Why would people in that industry be less likely to believe the obvious?
You reckon people in armaments factories don’t think bullets can be unhealthy?

WhaleHunt Fun

19 Feb 13 at 11:43 pm
connected with her head in the process of doing that.

Sure, if she was cowering against the door where the threat was coming form.

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 11:44 pm
OK I see he used the cricket bat to break the door down, he says.

No, he said he “kicked” the door in.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 11:44 pm
Nah she accidentally locked herself in and he tried to shoot the lock off like in the movies.

WhaleHunt Fun

19 Feb 13 at 11:45 pm
OK I see he used the cricket bat to break the door down, he says. And I would presume the bad has connected with her head in the process of doing that.

Does that mean the bathroom was locked? What couple in a loving relationship locks the bathroom door when having a midnight wizzer?
Oh thats right, Slipper thinks locking the bathroom door is weird.

Splatacrobat

19 Feb 13 at 11:46 pm
Does that mean the bathroom was locked? What couple in a loving relationship locks the bathroom door when having a midnight wizzer?

Have I eaten curry and half a crate of lager?

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 11:47 pm
Slipper thinks locking the bathroom door is weird.

No he said closing the bathroom door was weird.

Gab

19 Feb 13 at 11:48 pm
Read the detail on who they actually surveyed.

Chris is bullshitting everyone. That survey was done by a warmist who buried the inconvenient numbers deep in the paper. They made some whacky warmist interpretation which still supported to the preferred Consensus-TM narrative.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:48 pm
I got tweets from one guy at the scene but also ABC. ABC mentioned the cricket bat but not the other guy. Full statement will appear online.

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:50 pm
The one caution I would make in the Pistorious case is that it is South Africa. I wouldn’t believe one word from the prosecution or coroner.

It’s the sort of country where many people are shot in the forehead running away.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 11:50 pm
They were playing indoor cricket, she disputed his call of LBW

Well it wouldn’t be Oscar LBW in this case I suppose.

This fella has the worst set of excuses since OJ.

tbh

19 Feb 13 at 11:53 pm
Why would people in that industry be less likely to believe the obvious?

It’s what leftists have to tell themselves so that they can feel intellectually superior to the unthinking brainwashed masses they’re fighting against.

It’s easy for them to convince themselves that everybody who doesn’t agree with them is lying to themselves or brainwashed.

Typical projection.

They actually expect us to believe that a useful chemical scientist employed in the oil industry who can get a job in many other industries is more likely to “lie” about global warming than a taxpayer funded career “climate scientist” glorified academic with nothing but a string of broken papers behind them and no prospects but the dole queue when the funding dries up.

twostix

19 Feb 13 at 11:54 pm
that it is South Africa.

Oh I don’t know IT, Blondie from Silent Witness went there, had token sex with a black man, revisited her guilt over her black nanny and solved a case. Perhaps she or Detective Barnaby could go solve it.

Seriously, do you think ‘international interest’ will make it a bit straighter? (as in so crooked he couldn’t lay straight in bed)

Helen Armstrong

19 Feb 13 at 11:56 pm
Don’t miss this: Warmist survey of 1077 professional engineers and geoscientists finds only 36.3% are warmists, then buries that key result on page 17 of the associated paper

Lianne Lefsrud, a PhD student in the Alberta School of Business, surveyed the membership of the Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of Alberta regarding their beliefs on climate change and its causes, and on where responsibility for change rests…Lefsrud noted that while the survey data could lead some to believe that the level of disagreement would prohibit any sort of decision-making or conscious action, she says there were many common points of interest that could be pulled together to establish unity and effect change. She said all the respondents seemed to agree that there was a risk and that there needed to be some sort of action to try to mitigate it [Far be it from me to be critical, but I think she's seriously misrepresenting her own study here].

“It was interesting to see how a coalition could be built and work together to kind of patch up these factions and say, ‘OK, so what. Let’s set this aside. We all agree it’s a risk. We all agree to do something, so let’s do something,” said Lefsrud. “That was quite a hopeful message to say that we can do something here.

Yep, that’s the kind of researcher who would bias the result with a select ‘Big Oil’ sample space.

Right Chris?

Harold

19 Feb 13 at 11:57 pm
No joy, Johanna. The nearest I can find that suits some of your parameters is:

‘Would you have your husband constantly at your feet? keep him at some distance from your person. You will long maintain the authority in love, if you know but how to render your favours rare and valuable. It is thus you may employ even the arts of coquetry in the service of virtue, and those of love in that of reason.’

Mary Wollstonecraft (1759–1797). A Vindication of the Rights of Woman. 1792.

Cold-Hands

19 Feb 13 at 11:59 pm
Seriously, do you think ‘international interest’ will make it a bit straighter?

I think celebrities are entitled to one free murder, so he’ll probably walk.

Infidel Tiger

19 Feb 13 at 11:59 pm
“Climate Change” though utterly dead politically is still going to zombie on for an entire generation in academia like “Womens studies” and “Critical Theory” has.

It’s going to be a long 60 years.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 12:00 am
I kicked the door open.

Not with his blade runners then, else he would have bounced back clear out the window.

Helen Armstrong

20 Feb 13 at 12:00 am
Most of the people outside the production facilities in the oil industry are management and accounting and marketing types. They are no diff to any other industry and lean left.
The engineers and scientists are more cautious and more competent to recognise fake BS. They have models for the operation of the refining process that are far better developed than the climate models and they know how wobbly they are.

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Feb 13 at 12:02 am
one free murder,

Bugger. Not a goat. Night.

Helen Armstrong

20 Feb 13 at 12:02 am
No he said closing the bathroom door was weird.

Closing, locking, same thing Gab. The act of seeking privacy is what Slipper thought was weird.
No need to get picky over an obvious one liner.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 12:04 am
TwoStix, when I was at Uni lots of guys performed womens studies by enrolling in physiotherapy courses, womens studies, any shit where there were lots more females. Bet it still happens today.

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Feb 13 at 12:05 am
Obviously being deficient in the legs department Oscar couldn’t kick the door down.

Now who hasn’t had to smash the bathroom door down to smack some sense into a stupid girl who has locked the bathroom door in a huff once in a while?

Of course he had to keep a cricket bat by the bed in addition to the gun on the bedside table.

It could have been any blonde haired babe intruder.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 12:09 am
A Master of Art & Design thesis from 2010:

This visual arts project investigates notions of liminality and hybridity regarding the ambiguity of the interstitial position of the migrant. An examination of the migrant’s perspective and perception of cultural identity and the sense of home and belonging also underpins these studies. The project examines how the space between two cultures is experienced, and explores ways in which this might be visually expressed through the construction of fibre and textile art works. The researcher’s personal experience, as a German national now resident in the Cook Islands, provides the basis for reflections on cultural liminality and the ambivalence of feelings towards inclusion and exclusion. Material elements from European and Polynesian cultures such as cloth, fibres, and thread, and non-material elements like concepts and rituals are investigated for their potential to transcend the boundaries of their original culture to reveal the liminal space as source of energy and change.
The 80% practice based work is accompanied by a 20% written exegesis.

A translation:

I make crappy sculptures out of old rags then provide prolix explications thereof, and it’s all amazingly multicultural.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 12:11 am
I keep my cricket bat beside the bed, but I’ve not had to use it on the Mrs…..yet.

tbh

20 Feb 13 at 12:13 am
I kicked the door open.

Not with his blade runners then, else he would have bounced back clear out the window.

I suspect that, at night, he wears something other than blades. The cricket bat is a clue: he kicked the door with his stumps.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 12:14 am
This visual arts project investigates notions of liminality and hybridity regarding the ambiguity of the interstitial position of the migrant.

Wow, that really is a bit steaming pile of language vomit.

tbh

20 Feb 13 at 12:15 am
It was said that he can walk on his stumps. Born without fibulas which are bones below the knee.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 12:18 am
The measure of a man and a decent human being.

Janet Albrechtsen
on Abbott and his response to Malcolm McGregor now being Cate McGregor.

How did Abbott respond when Malcolm became Cate? With compassion and humility about human frailty. With gentle humour and stalwart friendship, too. Catholic teachings against transgender had no bearing on Abbott’s concern and support for McGregor. The Opposition Leader segued seamlessly from offering up his usual vigorous handshake to a mate to greeting his old friend with a hug and a peck on the cheek.

It is a far cry indeed from the cruel cartoon-like depictions of Abbott by his political opponents for “his misogyny”, his “macho image”, for being “a relic of another time”, “a man’s man”, “seriously dangerous” with a “narrow worldview”, a “zealot and an “ideologue”, who will “lead the country back to the dark ages”.

From the Gillard government girls to angry feminists such as Susan Mitchell (who didn’t bother to interview Abbott for her book about him because “that wasn’t the sort of book I wanted to write”), the accusations levelled at Abbott have been vicious and untrue. If a zealot is one who deliberately redoubles their efforts when the evidence suggests they are wrong, then Abbott’s critics are the zealots. Likewise, if an ideologue is someone concerned more about ideas than human beings, they are also the ideologues. Those interested to learn more about Abbott will realise that rather than talking about the “real Tony”, his authenticity comes from doing. And mostly the doing is kept away from the spin-doctors and the cameras. Whether he is spending his spare time with volunteer bush-fighters or running, swimming and cycling for charities such as the Manly Women’s Shelter or the McGrath Foundation which raises money for breast cancer nurses, Abbott doesn’t need to attach an adjective to his name to prove he is for real.

Late last year amid the cut and thrust of politics, when he was being wrongly assailed for misogyny, the alternative prime minister took time to pen a tribute in The Spectator to his friend’s book and to his friend. There was no fanfare, no strategic overtures to favoured journalists to report Abbott’s heartfelt review. Just a low-key and touching review headed “Tradition meets change”.
…
Yet the man demeaned by critics in the most insultingly fraudulent manner rarely gets a fair run in the media. Abbott’s review was published in November last year. McGregor, well known in Canberra media circles, particularly among press gallery journalists, was interviewed on ABC radio and television. Yet the curiosity of our intrepid ABC journalists did not extend beyond the author’s change of sexual identity. Journalists normally so keen to marry the political with the personal did not mention that the nation’s alternative prime minister had published a compassionate and caring tribute to a friend in need. The review is on the website of publisher Barrallier Books. Alternatively, a quick Google search of McGregor brings Abbott’s review to the screen. While Jim Maxwell, ABC’s doyen of cricketing commentary, noted Abbott’s gracious review, other members of the taxpayer-funded fourth estate seemed to fear that peeling back the truth of Tony Abbott might clash with their own political causes. And, needless to say, the rest of the press gallery was rather busy echoing the Gillard government’s misogyny line.

Should we be surprised by any of this? Not really. Labor will continue the character assassination of Abbott. Other critics and intellectually lazy members of the media will toe the same line. But neither should we be surprised by Abbott’s quiet act of loyalty and compassion. Abbott’s character is plain to see if, that is, one is open to learning more about him.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 12:19 am
Lefties try violence, but my experience is that they are all girls when it comes to a real fight.

They pick on old ladies who are in no position to fight back, or old men if no old ladies are close at hand.

The ferals won, by the way, because they forced the Q Society out of the CBD and into the suburbs in a venue that has arabic writing on the walls. I don’t recall seeing any arabic writing, but maybe I needed my other glasses.

Apparently we should have been horrified at that idea, like Jews in a building decorated with swastikas.

But they’d succeeded, so they packed up their combi with the many speakers, their megaphones, and scarpered out of the cold back to the inner suburbs.

So they didn’t get to block Geert’s arrival.

Oh, and they reckon Geert’s just as bad as Pauline Hanson, he’s all about oppressing the Palestinians and it’s class warfare. Fark it’s 1917 all over again.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 12:21 am
People will insist on looking at F-35 as a stand-alone aircraft, rather than as just one node in a (mostly) space and air-based networked and effects-based combat system. So long as they have that focus, they have little idea what they are talking about.

Actually, the JSF’s defender described the “wolf pack” nature of the aircraft – which was interesting. Though Four Corners ran the customary footage of the Sukhoi doing crazy stuff, they didn’t explain the limited relevance of its tricks vis-a-vis an aerial wolf pack – nor did the Australian war-gamer factor that in. That’s because he’s not apprised of the plane’s features, which are secret. The USAF spokesman also claimed that the JSF will have a feature (heavily classified) that will make it difficult – if not, impossible – to beat.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 12:27 am
Oh, and they reckon Geert’s just as bad as Pauline Hanson, he’s all about oppressing the Palestinians and it’s class warfare. Fark it’s 1917 all over again.

LOL.

It’s sadly funny how the bottom of the barrel Solidarity left turn up to protest about the usual broken record shit then the media simply superimposes their own narrative right on over the top using the protesters as supporting footage.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 12:30 am
It’s weird reading things like this in old newspapers:

The Sydney Morning Herald
Thursday 26 December 1929

COMMUNISTS’ TACTICS.

The annual conference of the Communist party will be opened In Sydney on Saturday. Delegates will consider the attitude of the carty towards the A.L.P.

The Communists In Australia were recently advised by their leaders in Moscow that they were adopting the wrong tactics In remaining within the Labour party. According to the Russian authorities, the Australian Communists should remain aloof from the A.L.P., and openly (fight it on every possible occasion.

Now commies pretend that the soviets had nothing to do with Australian or American communism, that the ALP had nothing to do with communism let alone soviet communism and that Shut Up.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16613173

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 12:39 am
Twostix I assumed you’d pulled that quote from today’s Herald and thought it referred to the Greens ending the Loon Alliance.

Infidel tiger

20 Feb 13 at 12:42 am
The Communists In Australia were recently advised by their leaders in Moscow that they were adopting the wrong tactics In remaining within the Labour party. According to the Russian authorities, the Australian Communists should remain aloof from the A.L.P., and openly (fight it on every possible occasion.

Tubbsie must have just found that memo.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 12:43 am
Here is Geert’s speech from tonight.

And now I’m going to bed. Need to sleep.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 12:43 am
Watched Lateline’s Wilders coverage tonight. Alberici was quite reasonable in her intro. In the packaged report, an old man was shown being thrown to the ground by mobsters in the leftist-Islamist wall. Later a young woman – evidently some kind of Turk – complained that the Wilders attendees were charging the wall. If it were any other circumstance, I’m sure an arch ABC reporter would not have allowed this hilarious chasm between witnessed reality and concocted horseshit to escape description. But the audience was left to its own interpretative devices.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 12:49 am
So in the space of a day both the Greens and the Commies have distanced themselves from Labor. On the nose doesn’t describe it.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 12:50 am
Bolta nails it

Nothing more clearly proves what seemed clear – at least to me – from the day Gillard signed the wedding register with Brown: she could have had the Greens support for nothing. Milne has now proved there was no way on earth the Greens would have ever supported the Coalition instead.

But in an astonishing misjudgment of her power and the Greens’ weakness, Gillard in 2010 bought what she could have got free – and in doing so blew every bit of credibility she had left, plus billions of taxpayers’ dollars.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 12:54 am
So in the space of a day both the Greens and the Commies have distanced themselves from Labor. On the nose doesn’t describe it.

Harold…that story was from 1929.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 12:59 am
Potemkin’s Village

I apologise Ladies. Earlier I misrepresented you… here

Grigory Potemkin

20 Feb 13 at 1:00 am
Space of a day, give or take 80 years. Jeeezuss, picky!

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 1:06 am
Mk50 @ 10.11pm

Sorry, been a bit busy tonight.

Hammerfall. Glory to the Brave.

Just watched it on Youtube. Thanks, they are very good. I’ll have to suss out the ‘Glory to the Brave’ album.

Septimus

20 Feb 13 at 1:11 am
Thanks for trying, ColdHands. It was a philosopher, I think – someone like Bertrand Russell. It’ll turn up eventually. It’s such a brilliant quote – along the lines that behaving badly in a good cause is a delicious bit of self-indulgence for the righteous.

Nilk, grateful for a report on the Wilders meeting when you have time and have had some kip.

johanna

20 Feb 13 at 1:18 am
18th of Feb 1930:

London.-Questions were asked in the British Parliament about the religious persecution in Russia. The Government formally announced that it views the continued persecution, of Christians by the Soviet with grave concern and would do all it could to secure an improvement in conditions but it was emphasised that Britain could not interfere in Russia’s internal or domestic matters.

The Soviet Press violently assailing the Pope owing to his protests against the persecutions says that he is an exploiting capitalist a friend of reaction and an enemy of the toiling masses and adds that Russia is sweeping out all superstition regardless of creed.

Lol even in 1930 the commies were a parody of themselves.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4527901

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 1:22 am
UK Telegraph: Muslim preacher urges followers to claim ‘Jihad Seeker’s Allowance’
A Muslim preacher is secretly filmed urging followers to take benefits from the state to fund a holy war.

Anjem Choudary was secretly filmed mocking non-Muslims for working in 9-5 jobs their whole lives, and told followers that some revered Islamic figures had only ever worked one or two days a year.

“The rest of the year they were busy with jihad [holy war] and things like that,” he said. “People will say, ‘Ah, but you are not working’.

“But the normal situation is for you to take money from the kuffar [non-believers].

“So we take Jihad Seeker’s Allowance. You need to get support.”

He went on to tell a 30-strong crowd: “We are going to take England — the Muslims are coming.”

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 1:29 am
Slate: The Deadly Opposition to Genetically Modified Food
Vitamin A deficiency has killed 8 million kids in the last 12 years. Help is finally on the way.

Finally, after a 12-year delay caused by opponents of genetically modified foods, so-called “golden rice” with vitamin A will be grown in the Philippines. Over those 12 years, about 8 million children worldwide died from vitamin A deficiency. Are anti-GM advocates not partly responsible?

Golden rice is the most prominent example in the global controversy over GM foods, which pits a technology with some risks but incredible potential against the resistance of feel-good campaigning. Three billion people depend on rice as their staple food, with 10 percent at risk for vitamin A deficiency, which, according to the World Health Organization, causes 250,000 to 500,000 children to go blind each year. Of these, half die within a year. A study from the British medical journal the Lancet estimates that, in total, vitamin A deficiency kills 668,000 children under the age of 5 each year.

Yet, despite the cost in human lives, anti-GM campaigners—from Greenpeace to Naomi Klein—have derided efforts to use golden rice to avoid vitamin A deficiency. In India, Vandana Shiva, an environmental activist and adviser to the government, called golden rice “a hoax” that is “creating hunger and malnutrition, not solving it.”

The New York Times Magazine reported in 2001 that one would need to “eat 15 pounds of cooked golden rice a day” to get enough vitamin A. What was an exaggeration then is demonstrably wrong now. Two recent studies in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition show that just 50 grams (roughly two ounces) of golden rice can provide 60 percent of the recommended daily intake of vitamin A. They show that golden rice is even better than spinach in providing vitamin A to children.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 1:31 am
Our Human Rights Commission has been discussed recently. This from Geert’s speech:

The Islamic countries belong to the Organization of the Islamic Conference. It is the largest voting bloc and the biggest Israel haters in the United Nations. In 1990, it adopted the Cairo Declaration on human rights in Islam, in which human rights is bound by Sharia law. It also calls for the death penalty for people who leave Islam or insult Islam, Muhammad or the Koran.

The right to die?

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 1:38 am
I am looking for a wonderful quote along the lines that “to do wrong [behave badly] in the service of virtue is [the most something something], the most exquisite of moral treats.”

C’mon, all you polymaths.

“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior ‘righteous indignation’ — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”

Aldous Huxley, Crome Yellow (1921)

sdog

20 Feb 13 at 2:02 am
http://books.google.com/books?id=_LEDaG86v08C&lpg=PA48&dq=the%20most%20delicious%20of%20moral%20treats&pg=PA48#v=onepage&q=the%20most%20delicious%20of%20moral%20treats&f=false

sdog

20 Feb 13 at 2:07 am
The Ultimate in #DogShaming featuring Maymo the Lemon Beagle: “I stole a pretzel from a goat.”

Hang in there to the end. It’s worth it if just for the panda.

sdog

20 Feb 13 at 2:11 am
sdog – legend!! Thanks.

This time I’ll store it where I can find it again.

johanna

20 Feb 13 at 4:19 am
Momma always said I was smarter’n I looked

sdog

20 Feb 13 at 5:15 am
You’re the pick of the litter, no question.

johanna

20 Feb 13 at 5:29 am
The only problem with the quotation attributed to Aldous Huxley, and alleged on dozens of websites to have come from his first novel, Crome Yellow, is that the quote cannot be found anywhere within Crome Yellow.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 6:11 am
With Labor on 30% and the Greens on 9% in polling, the Green left is devouring itself (destroying an economy and people’s livelihoods tends to do that). Tubbsy’s dummy spit was designed to increase the Green primary vote, but it’s having other unintended consequences:

While some Labor figures were privately rejoicing at the formal break with the Greens, Labor MPs agitating for a return to Kevin Rudd claimed the split could be viewed by many voters as a case of the “rats leaving a sinking ship”.

“Having the Greens abandon the PM is the ultimate act of humiliation,” one Rudd backer said.

“They are the only political entity who are more unpopular than us.”

With leadership tensions refusing to subside, other senior Rudd backers claimed that, having the Greens end an alliance which should have been torn up by Labor, Ms Gillard would be further exposed in the caucus.

Ms Milne last night would not comment on whether the Greens were now in preference discussions with the Liberal Party, over seats such as Melbourne, held by the Greens’ only MHR, Adam Bandt. Online bookmakers reported a plunge on Mr Rudd with him now favourite to lead Labor to the September 14 election.

I think Tubbsy is running a close second to the Lying Whore as a political amateur. But it’s frightening that more than a third of the adult population will vote for one or the other.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 6:23 am
A great PDF graphic identifying the Labor minister’s who’ll lose their careers in a 6% swing on current polling, which would claim 25 ALP seats for the Coalition. I remain hopeful of the 15% Can-do got in Queensland, which would decimate 61 out of 72 Labor seats — a punishment fitting the size of the crime.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 7:07 am
ShakeMyHead.com begs Gillard to go (health warning: reading this may cause projectile vomiting), while Pravda demands Rudd’s return and an immediate election. Quality journalism for fruitcake activists brought to you by Fauxfacts.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 7:49 am
while Pravda demands Rudd’s return

Featured therewith is Leunig’s effort; in four attempts he fails to write anything funny or even droll. Another sad has-been who ought to be sacked.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 7:56 am
The above-mentioned quote from Aldous Huxley comes (I’m fairly certain) from his introduction to Samuel Butler’s Erewhon (though, not having a copy, and able to find only small portions on the web, I can’t be sure whether it started as a review or had been written specially):

Men show at least as much zeal in mischief as in well doing, in folly as in wisdom. The surest way to work up a crusade in favour of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behaviour “righteous indignation”—this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats. In any cause, the best or the most atrocious, zeal is always intoxicating. A world without zeal would be a world deprived of many simple but savage pleasures: but at least half its present excuses for interfering and bullying would have been taken away from it.
English literature is a literature of zeal—zeal for righteousness; zeal for mysticism; zeal for romantic love; zeal for a no less romantic pessimism and misanthropy.

Huxley’s own zeal at about the time he wrote that review, by the way, led him to The Peace Pledge Union and the lovely idea that fascism, nationalistic militarism and wars could be stopped by a renunciation of violence, some earnest conversations and disarmament.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 8:11 am
Other great agreements that lost their way.

Stalin
Chamberlain
Nixon
Clinton

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 8:18 am
ShakeMyHead.com begs Gillard to go (health warning: reading this may cause projectile vomiting), while Pravda demands Rudd’s return and an immediate election. Quality journalism for fruitcake activists brought to you by Fauxfacts.

LOL

I’m not sure which headless chook is more deliciously tenderised, Fauxfax or da ALP.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 8:20 am
Milne last night would not comment on whether the Greenfilth were now in preference discussions with the Liberal Party, over seats such as Melbourne, held by the Greens’ only MHR, Adam Bandit.

I’ve said it before and will say it again – even if it means that labor will actually pick up at least one seat in the coming electoral annihilation, the Liberals have to bite the bullet and preference the greenfilth last.

Yes, it will save albansleazey’s flabby arse (among others) but the greenfilth have it coming. Anything less would be an absolutely inexcusable sellout and betrayal.

I want the f*cking greenfilth reduced to utter barking irrelevance.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 8:58 am
The Greens will not last. Destroying the ALP now has more utility.

I say put sitting ALP and Greens members last, then in contestable seats, the most likely to win out of the ALP and Greens, last.

Previously I said who was most likely to win, which might work if the primary votes split to the L/NP is competitive enough.

.

20 Feb 13 at 9:01 am
The Greens will not last.

What I’ve advocated above will speed up that process.

labor are going to lose 25 seats at least, so I’m not particularly fussed about them regaining melbourne.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 9:05 am
Lord mayor Robert Doyle received tens of thousands of dollars from donors connected to a property developer with big plans for Melbourne’s skyline, yet the official donation list obscures the businessman’s links to raising money for Cr Doyle’s re-election campaign.

Seriously fairfax? Do you understand how the ALP Right and property developers have coexisted, even symbotically for decades?

It’s a da Liberals who are at fault.

Imaginary Real Julia said:

Australia is now more outward-looking, more tolerant and competitive than it was when I came to office.

Completely untrue. This is just Stalinist retouching of da memories (I tells ya!).

.

20 Feb 13 at 9:05 am
ShakeMyHead.com begs gillard to go (health warning: reading this may cause projectile vomiting)

Jeez Tom, you weren’t wrong about that silly moaning herald piece. What obsequious, vomit inducing drivel.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 9:08 am
So, after the ninny hyperbole of yesterday, a bunch of lefties made a nuisance of themselves, and the State in the form of the police ensured people got to their free speech exercise led by a ninny who, incidentally, doesn’t want to cause any offence, so he’ll just politely tell Muslims in Australia that they follow a “warlord, terrorist and p**phile” and should all become Christians.

What a crisis, hey?

Wilders doesn’t deserve death threats; he doesn’t deserve standing ovations from One Nation leftovers in Australia either.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 9:22 am
It’s amazing how the Silly regarded the mysogeny speech as one of the great political manoeuvres, as late as last month, and now regard it as a mistake.

Truly amazing.

Tiny Dancer

20 Feb 13 at 9:23 am
From Bolta:

Meet Maxwell Swan, the guru Treasurer

TLS:

Addressing the Australian Workers Union national conference last night, Ms Gillard praised her “good friend” Mr Swan, who had returned from a meeting of G20 finance ministers in Russia.

“In that room, when they looked for leadership, they looked to Wayne Swan, a man honoured as the world’s best treasurer,” she said.

What the Russians really thought:

Suffice to say, that Gillard exaggerated again. Russian official sites are all about Russian contribution to the G20 agenda, which is fair since they are in charge this year.

The only mentioning of Swan I found in the Russian Business newspaper site that contained the following pearls:

(1) Swan was called Maxwell Swan (hardly a sign that this influential leader was so impressive that they could remember his first name):

No surprises that Bolta follows the Russian suggestion and draws links between Goose & Agent 86 from Control.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 9:24 am
Steve. Go steal some more bread and get down to Centrelink.

Tiny Dancer

20 Feb 13 at 9:25 am
SoB is has turned his inner Left-tard up to 11:

after the ninny hyperbole of yesterday,

Who was pedalling hypwerbowl again?

What do you want: all protesters to be water cannoned? Release the dogs? If that had happened at the carbon tax rallies, would that have been a problem?

Oh yes, it was SoB.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 9:26 am
Token: the comment was a sarcastic reference to the cries of “cowardice” ringing around here about the fact that a couple of Liberal politicians were saying they did not welcome Wilders.

I made the point that a high profile speaker who advocates stopping Muslim immigration (apart from asylum seekers) was always likely to attract protesters for that reason alone (even apart from holding pressers where he goes out of his way to annoy Muslims with his comments noted above), and hence private venue owners would be leery of having him.

The over-excitement and free speech wringing of hands was all on the part of the regulars here.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 9:33 am
Anyway, I shouldn’t tally too long here. It damages neurons, I am sure.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 9:35 am
Try “dally”…

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 9:36 am
Well fuck off then, and don’t dally.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

20 Feb 13 at 9:45 am
And so the lone leftist troll turns up to defend islamofascism’s jihad against democracy and all of the left’s favourite causes:

Women’s rights are being trampled. We are confronted with headscarves and burqa’s, polygamy, female genital mutilation, honor-killings.

Wilders also points out that because Islam forbids personal freedom, it condemns muslims to live in poverty — just like the left does sooner or later, wherever it rules.

Put on your burqa, Dogshit. It suits you.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 9:46 am
LOL

liar-steve® has his nose rubbed in his own excrement last night and bounces back in this morning whistling thru his poo-covered face as if nothing really happened.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 9:50 am
Like Mk50, JamesK has an inordinate interest in poo.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 10:08 am
That’s rich, coming from a mouth-breather whose nickname, soundly based on his lack of intelligence, is Dogshit, aka Shitfer.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 10:18 am
From the BHP media conference, lauding the work of Marius Kloppers, comes a revelation that he managed the company during

one of the worst economic periods in history.

Really?
This seems to be using “history” in much the same way as awarmists do—such as when, for example, they scream “this was hottest month in history” though it was but one of the hotter months in the last fifty years or so—as a synonym for “recently” or “as far back as we can recall”.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 10:19 am
For ‘using “history”’ please read ‘using “in history”’.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 10:27 am
The over-excitement and free speech wringing of hands was all on the part of the regulars here.

See what the peaceful citizens had to put up at Bolta.

Violent lefty thugs sling a person who is trying to attend a private event and Left-tard SoB gets agro at people who wish to stop the violence.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 10:27 am
I’ve just hammered the shit out of that tax grubbing, fascism loving lumpkin, William Bragg on the ‘Commonwealth Public Sector Numbers’ thread.

.

20 Feb 13 at 10:30 am
A fine job, Dot. Bragg is our unflushable turd — as well as that other Bondi cigar who’s just resurfaced in the Brisbane River at Pinkenba.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 10:43 am
I notice that William Bragg has a list of creditials as long as our beloved contributor mAlice.

Maybe they were classmates at Nursing college in the UK in the late 1970′s.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 10:47 am
I forgot to add Tom to the list of poo obsessed.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 11:01 am
hahaha Maxwell Swan, the surplus, “missed it by thaaat much”. Bolta.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 11:02 am
I thought that you were fucking off for fear of damaging your remaining neuron Steve.
Go away.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

20 Feb 13 at 11:05 am
The Russian press referred to him as “Maxwell Swan”?

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

“In that room, when they looked for leadership, they looked to Wayne Swan, a man honoured as the world’s best treasurer,” she said.

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 11:11 am
The Age reports that Gillard’s latest thought bubble is already a failure:

THE Gillard government’s innovation and jobs package was launched this week despite warnings from the Industry Department and the Tax Office that the $1 billion saving at the heart of the policy might never eventuate.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 11:13 am
Meanwhile, undeterred about such trivial matters as budget and revenue losses,

JULIA Gillard’s office furniture will be re-upholstered in plush Scottish leather … as the Prime Minister pitched her new Australian jobs plan in Brisbane.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 11:16 am
Abbott vindicated:

Consumers ‘paying twice’ as carbon emitters compensated.

Australia’s biggest carbon emitters are being accused of passing on the entire cost of the carbon tax while pocketing government compensation.

Analysis by consultants Carbon and Energy Markets suggests that brown coal power plants in Victoria’s Latrobe Valley could get billions of dollars in compensation over the next few years.

Director Bruce Mountain says some are passing on more than 100 per cent of the cost of the tax, meaning the government compensation amounts to windfall profits.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 11:16 am
Australia’s oldest union, the AWU, had a slick new video production prepared for its national conference. It’s narrated by Aussie actor Jack Thompson, who could make shovelling sh*t sound romantic. But Gillard supporter Paul Howes should have had a closer look at the script. “Over the past five years 130,000 manufacturing jobs gone because somebody had forgot to turn the lights on and wake Australia up,” says Thompson. He’s talking there about the last two terms of Labor government.

oops. There’s no link to the video now as it’s been removed. LOL

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 11:22 am
I’ve just hammered the shit out of that tax grubbing, fascism loving lumpkin, William Bragg

Don’t get too big-headed Dot. You had major assistance from WB himself.

Steve of Ferny Hills

20 Feb 13 at 11:24 am
Victorian police ramping up their Wilson/Gillard investigation, reports Bolt.

She’s finished.

Now enjoy the hilarity as the Rudd-hating love media pull off the most clumsy and oafish pirouette since Christine Nixon turned on her heels to grab an entire bowl of the restaurant’s complimentary mints on Black Saturday.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 11:27 am
Huxley’s own zeal at about the time he wrote that review, by the way, led him to The Peace Pledge Union and the lovely idea that fascism, nationalistic militarism and wars could be stopped by a renunciation of violence, some earnest conversations and disarmament.

LOL I wonder how long he held onto that silly idea for? Maybe he should have tried Kumbaya.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 11:30 am
Video: TSA assaults three year-old girl in wheelchair.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 11:37 am
As one jaded MP said yesterday: “I feel violated. “Sure, good riddance to the Greens. Oh, but thanks for the carbon tax.”

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 11:41 am
Video: TSA assaults three year-old girl in wheelchair.

Parents stand around making impotent snarky comments while their disabled baby daughter is frisked like a criminal by strange adults in government uniforms.

I thought Americans were all “we’ll never accept tyranny! live free or die!”.

Erm…sure.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 11:55 am
Those TSA morons deserve a damn good thrashing and then a lengthy gaol sentence.

Unfriggingbelievable…

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 11:55 am
2nd Colorado Democratic Legislator: Women Can Use “The Buddy System” or “Judo” and “Headlocks” to Defend Against Rape

Are all anti-gun advocates women hating nutjobs?

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 12:01 pm
I thought Americans were all “we’ll never accept tyranny! live free or die!”.

Its a long way from it. People get arrested for daring to grow vegetables instead of grass in their front yard.

http://www.viciousbabushka.com/2011/07/michigan-woman-arrested-for-vegetable-garden-and-no-pot-plants.html

Chris

20 Feb 13 at 12:01 pm
Its a long way from it. People get arrested for daring to grow vegetables instead of grass in their front yard.

Bluestates are like that.

Look what they do in the Obama’s home state – the Land of Lincoln if you try to record a police officer.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 12:05 pm
Burn a green, get carbon emissions. At 23 bucks a tonne it.is.still.worth it. Please please please legislate to allow burning

WhaleHunt Fun

20 Feb 13 at 12:14 pm
Fme I hadn’t realised the Human Rights Commission in 2011 gave its Human Rights Medal to Anti-free speech Merkel

Presumably Finkelstein is next.

The rot is deep.

H/t Bolt

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 12:19 pm
Vitamin A deficiency has killed 8 million kids in the last 12 years.

And people think I’m a bit radical when I advocate the Greens and Fellow Travellers guilty and put up in front of the the International Court of Justice and tried for Crimes Against Humanity.
How it can be argued they not be tried for their criminal acts leaves me bewildered.

Winston SMITH

20 Feb 13 at 12:23 pm
Whale, those gravatars are becoming more monstrous by the day!

Thanks goodness I haven’t had lunch yet.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 12:27 pm
Thanks for the update on the Huxley quote, Deadman. Whatever his personal failings, you have to admit that it was a fine turn of phrase.

The Coalition could make some hilarious campaign ads about “Maxwell Swan.” One of him talking into his shoe at an important international meeting would be good.

Can’t see JG as 99 though. Barbara Feldon was cute, nice, and virtuous to boot – no parallels there that I can detect.

johanna

20 Feb 13 at 12:33 pm
Tony Abbott did very well being grilled by Neil Mitchell this morning

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 12:58 pm
Can’t see JG as 99 though. Barbara Feldon was cute, nice, and virtuous to boot – no parallels there that I can detect.

Agreed, as well as being the brains of the operation, she was extremely cute. A fabulous exemplar of Mod fashion as well.

Groovy, baby.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 1:13 pm
Tony Abbott did very well being grilled by Neil Mitchell this morning

It was an interview that he was asked the same question repeatedly.

Andrew

20 Feb 13 at 1:18 pm
JamesK

I heard that interview and to be honest thought it was a bit underwhelming.

Abbott clearly stated first up that:

a) The Labor leadership had nothing to do with him, and wasn’t going to give a running commentary on it.

b) He would not be committing yes or no to policy specifics until he’d seen the true budget numbers.

Yet Mitchell kept asking him about the ALP turmoil and specific “can you guarantee…?” policy prescriptions over and over.

Abbott ended up answering everything with “Well as I’ve said before, I won’t be……”

MDMConnell

20 Feb 13 at 1:20 pm
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott says controversial Dutch politician Geert Wilders is “substantially” wrong in his views on Islam, arguing there is not much Australia can learn from the Netherlands on the issue of multicultural integration.

Comments from the local Crusaders?

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 1:26 pm
Comments from the local Crusaders?

He’s a vacillating nonce eager to be loved and admired by human filth (leftists). In a righteous world he would be a gardener at a monastery, not the next PM of Australia.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 1:29 pm
Wow.

Sydney Morning Herald: “Dead Woman Walking.”

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 1:30 pm
You really love those muzzies, don’t you, Dogshit? Tell us what it is about the islamic world that makes it so attractive to you. The personal freedom? The fabulous wealth? The irrelevance of what has happened to Europe?

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 1:33 pm
Comments from the local Crusaders?

Fuck off, you sycophantic dhimmi twat.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 1:35 pm
Tony Abbott said “We don’t import our politics from overseas, we don’t import our personnel from overseas.”

Seems very reasonable. What else can he say and not be branded racist red neck by the Alliance supporters.
He always has a fine line to walk and he does it well.

candy

20 Feb 13 at 1:36 pm
Steve – you seem to be lurking so…

Tell us how you’re going to switch to absolute support for Kevin Rudd.

Can we have a sneak peak at the formula you’re working on?

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 1:38 pm
Comments from the local Crusaders?

SoB, are you finally going to go through with the surgery now you know Tony will be nice to you after the snips are made?

Thinks seriously about, you can avoid all those estrogen injections which are causing you to devolve into a bubbling faux-conservative emotional wreck.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 1:39 pm
Peter Costello said “Australia is a secular state and any Muslim immigrant who cannot accept that should leave.”

Comments from perennial f-ckwit liar-steve®?

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 1:40 pm
“We don’t import our politics from overseas, we don’t import our personnel from overseas.”

WTF? Every insane, misanthropic leftist piece of idiocy that’s ever been hatched overseas is inevitably adopted by the political morons in this country.

I’ve reached a point were I’m beginning to think to a reasonable rule of thumb is that any social, economic or environmental ‘policy’ adopted in stinking toilets like the UK or Europe, we do the exact opposite.

FFS.

Rabz

20 Feb 13 at 1:41 pm
True, Candy. Abbott knows the love media want to set him up as the crazy Geert boy of Australian politics and he delights in depriving the JournoList luvvies of their meme.

But there is such a thing as principle. That’s when you take a hit (if necessary) for what’s true and right. When it comes to free speech, there are no ifs, buts and maybes. You make the case no matter what. Abbott chickened out.

Excuse me if I don’t join Albrechtsen and Bolt in lionising the Opposition Leader for hugging and kissing a transgender ‘woman’ when he distances himself from a man under 24 hour guard for defending liberty. Cowardice, pure and simple.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 1:43 pm
It’s academic, CL. I can’t see it happening.

By the way, you were in a dream the other night. The details are vague now, but it was some huge apartment building and I wasn’t sure which was mine. I went into one anyway but was worried that it was yours and I would be accused of stalking you if you turned up. I don’t think you did, though.

Then there was the time I ran into you outside of a church. Can’t remember what you looked like or what happened, though.

Just thought you would like to know….

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 1:43 pm
That kind of moronic repetition only reflects on the stupidity of the interviewer.Mitchell never disappoints.

Lew

20 Feb 13 at 1:44 pm
I hope Tony gets to talk about his views on transgender on some TV interview soon. I always enjoy him looking uncomfortable. Which is, well, every interview he ever gives.

His approval rating has been on the rise because of his recent lower profile.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 1:46 pm
Excuse me if I don’t join Albrechtsen and Bolt in lionising the Opposition Leader for hugging and kissing a transgender ‘woman’ when he distances himself from a man under 24 hour guard for defending liberty. Cowardice, pure and simple.

This is modern Australia in a nutshell. You are vilified for defending free speech, but given a street parade for lopping off your night tool.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 1:47 pm
You’re a common thief, CL. You’ve been living in Dogshit’s head for — I dunno, five years — and you haven’t paid a cent in rent.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 1:48 pm
His approval rating has been on the rise because of his recent lower profile.

So was yours until your recent reemergence.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 1:49 pm
Congratulations on a joke that doesn’t reference sex, genitals or smoking, IT.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 1:51 pm
Watch as “No Crisis” Steve manages to throw his holistic and passionate support behind Kevin Rudd (again). It’s gunna be hilarious.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 1:52 pm
Ah, it’s all the greatest hits of CL today: shock and horror when a neurotic mother freaks out about a woman TSA officer just trying to do her job; pretending I was once a Rudd supporter.

“Never a Catholic” can’t be far behind.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 1:55 pm
By the way, you were in a dream the other night. The details are vague now, but it was some huge apartment building and I wasn’t sure which was mine. I went into one anyway but was worried that it was yours and I would be accused of stalking you if you turned up. I don’t think you did, though.

Then there was the time I ran into you outside of a church. Can’t remember what you looked like or what happened, though.

Why do you dream about the commenter’s on a website?

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 1:56 pm
Thanks for drawing our attention to that piece, S.F.B:

Mr Abbott says Mr Wilders is free to “say his piece”, but says Australia’s experience of multiculturalism is different from the Netherlands.

Unlike your lot, SFB, like Bowen who tried to silence Wilders, like your mob that tried to silence Wilders last night, unlike your mob, SFB that tried to prevent people from hearing what Wilders had to say, at least Abbott said Wilders has a right to speak. Your such a pathetic slave for the fascists in this country.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 1:56 pm
Coward Colin Barnett boasts it was him who got Perth venues to blackball Wilders.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 1:59 pm
I also usually have a “meeting Steven Spielberg’ dream around the time a new movie of his is released, twostix.

I’ll start keeping a dream diary, and post details here everyday, if you like.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 1:59 pm
“Never a Catholic” can’t be far behind.

Post count increasing.

Falling into the old pathologies.

Steve’s Rehab team weeps.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 2:00 pm
Oh look, it’s “you can never be too dramatic about free speech for ninnies” Gab. Wilders has been let in; he’s been harassed to an extent by those who disagree with him. That’s life for a ninny.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 2:02 pm
Coward Colin Barnett boasts it was him who got Perth venues to blackball Wilders.

What a douche. I hope someone lops his head off with a scimitar and drags it through Forrest Chase.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 2:02 pm
Oh no, a woman has stepped out of the place SoB allocated to her.

No need to get all Oscar Pistorius Steve.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 2:03 pm
Steve the only thing we all want to hear is your official 1000th truimphal assurance that Labors polling is going to be equal with the Liberals any day now and how the election is Labors in the bag and what a wonderful job Gillard is doing. Which is where you left off last year when you had your little meltdown and went into catallaxy addiction rehab.

Let’s start there.

Then we’ll talk more about your catallaxy addiction and demonstrated complete lack of moral fibre and self control now that your back and posting more and more by the day and falling back into the old self-harming behaviours (lying, quote doctoring, hectoring the females, revising history, etc).

Also if you could answer CL re Rudd that would be great.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 2:09 pm
Funny you should mention Oscar: his case is a typical example of why many, many women who think having a legal gun in the house may make them safer in fact proves to be 100% wrong.

It would be good if someone had the ability to tally up the number of cases of “householders who successfully defended themselves with a gun” as against “householders who were threatened or killed by relative or friend with the household gun, or who had relative accidentally or deliberately shot by household gun” in any one year.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 2:11 pm
“Coward Colin Barnett boasts it was him who got Perth venues to blackball Wilders.”

I was all ready to get on board the Outrage Train, but I should have known not to trust anything you say, ever. From your link:

The Premier said on Wednesday his comment that Mr Wilders was not welcome at government buildings might have affected the right-wing politician’s ability to get a venue.

“I don’t want him here. But he’s here, and I’m not going to interfere now,” Mr Barnett told Fairfax radio.

“But he certainly is not going to use government buildings to promote his message.”

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 2:14 pm
It would be good if someone had the ability to tally up the number of cases of “householders who successfully defended themselves with a gun” as against “householders who were threatened or killed by relative or friend with the household gun, or who had relative accidentally or deliberately shot by household gun” in any one year.

Feel free to do that Steve. The results wont support your anti-gun fantasy. Do you seriously suggest that stricter gun laws would have saved her?

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 2:14 pm
So SoB, are you suggesting it is safe to live without a gun in South Africa?

Token

20 Feb 13 at 2:16 pm
The Labor Party is showing a disgraceful lack of nerve: this is not Julia Gillard’s fault.

That is all that is worthwhile saying.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 2:16 pm
Wow. Talk about jumping all over the place on topics. Seems SFB’s self-imposed exile from the Cat has done nothing other than bottle up his feelings. And now he’s decided today is the day to let his poofle valve explode like a teenager squeezing his pimple in the mirror.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 2:16 pm
Gee, Token, I don’t why I would think it would have been safer for Oscar’s girlfriend.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 2:18 pm
Gun Watch.

Collecting news reports of defensive gun use.

Eg.

We’re hearing from the family of a man whose home is at the center of a scary late-night encounter with a total stranger.
Police say a man was so intoxicated he thought he was trying to get into his home, which is actually a block away.

But the elderly homeowner thought he was a burglar, so he fired a warning shot through his front door.

It happened around 1 a.m. Saturday off West Platte Ave in Colorado Springs.

A drunken man mistook the house for his. Knocking on the door turned into pounding, then running charges as he tried to get in, using the full force of his body to bust it open.

Actions that terrified the 87-year-old homeowner and his 80-year-old wife who live there.

Obviously they would have been safer without a gun, according to gunliar Steve.

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 2:20 pm
Funny you should mention Oscar: his case is a typical example of why many, many women who think having a legal gun in the house may make them safer in fact proves to be 100% wrong.

You brain-dead moron. It wasn’t her house. She was dating a psychopath.

Did you fail reading at kindy?

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 2:21 pm
Damn!

Broke my own rule and answered a troll.

Sorry, wont happen again.

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 2:25 pm
“I don’t want him here. But he’s here, and I’m not going to interfere now,”

King Colin doesn’t want a man with the wrong ideas to visit his harmonious kingdom.

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 2:30 pm
I was all ready to get on board the Outrage Train, but I should have known not to trust anything you say, ever. From your link:

Still wounded from being caught out by me lying about waterboarding and bin Laden the other day (you skulked away), Jarrah?

Thanks for posting the paragraphs that make my point again.

?

Barnett boasts it was him who shut down Wilders.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 2:31 pm
I was all ready to get on board the Outrage Train…

You mean, like you did in relation to Obama’s illegal oil wars and his infamous policy of using drones to murder people – including US citizens?

You’re such a partisan phony, Jarrah.

Stop pretending to be a libertarian.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 2:33 pm
You’re such a partisan phony, Jarrah.

Stop pretending to be a libertarian.

Jarrah is an inanely leftist as they come.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 2:38 pm
Shitfer’s back, boring as ever and it’s SSDD.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 2:40 pm
Funny that Christopher Hitchens didn’t volunteer to be bombed by a drone.

Osama bin Laden killed: CIA admits waterboarding yielded vital information.

Thank you, George W. Bush.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 2:43 pm
“You mean, like you did in relation to Obama’s illegal oil wars and his infamous policy of using drones to murder people – including US citizens?”

LOL. You’re a broken record, CL.

“Stop pretending to be a libertarian.”

Who’s pretending? My record on free speech is impeccable.

“Jarrah is an inanely leftist as they come.”

Is English your second language, JamesK?

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 2:43 pm
You brain-dead moron. It wasn’t her house. She was dating a psychopath.

Let’s see where the case goes, but let’s not be suprised if a bit of ‘roid rage is revealed as well.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 2:47 pm
as against “householders who were threatened or killed by relative or friend with the household gun, or who had relative accidentally or deliberately shot by household gun” in any one year.

umm, doesn’t she have a cricket bat sized dent in her skull as well? I hate to tell you, but if someone is going to kill their wife/girlfriend through domestic violence, lack of a gun doesn’t usually stop them.

The Labor Party is showing a disgraceful lack of nerve: this is not Julia Gillard’s fault.

Yes, because someone else made her shack up with corrupt unionists, break election promises, invent idiotic policies and try and change her image 15 times a year. It’s that evil Abbot guy again, isn’t it.

Hate to break it to fans of Julia, but you reap what you sow. And she’s been planting bad seeds for decades.

brc

20 Feb 13 at 2:49 pm
Coincidence:

The national broadband network is being connected in Treasurer Wayne Swan’s marginal Brisbane seat, only days after a devastating poll for Labor.

Aspley, in Brisbane’s north, will be the first site in Queensland’s capital to get the optical fibre connection on Wednesday.

A ceremony is being held at the Aspley Rugby League Football Club, just two days after a Nielsen poll showed Labor’s primary vote falling to 30 per cent.

It falls on the border of Mr Swan’s seat of Lilley, which he holds by a slender 3.2 per cent margin.

Swan’s seat gets NBN connection.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 2:51 pm
Could your language affect your ability to save money?

RTWT and watch the video…

Abu Chowdah

20 Feb 13 at 2:52 pm
he’s been harassed to an extent by those who disagree with him. That’s life for a ninny.

The return of Super-ninny SoB. Stand by to be harassed, you waste of pixels.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 3:03 pm
Recently as Defense Sec Panetta admits that enhanced interrogation helped bag bin Laden

Panetta: “The real story is that in order to put the puzzle of intelligence together that led us to bin Laden, there was a lot of intelligence. There were a lot of pieces out there that were a part of that puzzle. Yes, some of it came from some of the tactics that were used at that time — interrogation tactics that were used. But the fact is we put together most of that intelligence without having to resort to that. I think we could have gotten bin Laden without that”

Previous admission as CIA chief in 2011: Waterboarding aided bin Laden raid

Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

“Enhanced interrogation techniques” were used to extract information that led to the mission’s success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.

Panetta, who in a 2009 CIA confirmation hearing declared “waterboarding is torture and it’s wrong,” said Tuesday that debate about its use will continue.

“Whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always gonna be an open question,” Panetta said.

“In the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information and that was true here,” Panetta said. “We had a multiple source — a multiple series of sources — that provided information with regards to the situation. Clearly some of it came from detainees and the interrogation of detainees but we also had information from other sources as well.”

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 3:04 pm
Is English your second language, JamesK?

Is ~~English~~ english your second language, JamesK?

TFTFY

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 3:07 pm
Gab 20 Feb 13 at 2:16 pm

And now he’s [SfB] decided today is the day to let his poofle valve explode like a teenager squeezing his pimple in the mirror.

Demonstration (Action from 2:50)

Steve D

20 Feb 13 at 3:08 pm
The national broadband network is being connected in Treasurer Wayne Swan’s marginal Brisbane seat, only days after a devastating poll for Labor.

Two and half years in, billions of dollars 1/150 parts complete.

.

20 Feb 13 at 3:12 pm
Could your language affect your ability to save money?

RTWT and watch the video…

Good article Abu.

I remember learning all the titles to use for my wife’s family for my wedding and being impressed by the level respect the Chinese have embedded in their language.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 3:14 pm
“Let’s see where the case goes, but let’s not be suprised if a bit of ‘roid rage is revealed as well.”

Sounds like it. They were only dating a few months; perhaps dating a double amputee despite his star status it wasn’t working out and she tried to break it off, and his rage got the better of him and he went after her with a cricket back.
Or he is a psychopath not previously diagnosed.

candy

20 Feb 13 at 3:16 pm
Did Jarrah, omit information from a later point in time that contradicts the slanted message he was trying to spin?

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!

Token

20 Feb 13 at 3:19 pm
The national broadband network is being connected in Treasurer Wayne Swan’s marginal Brisbane seat, only days after a devastating poll for Labor.

The Goose can now watch this in 1080p.

H B Bear

20 Feb 13 at 3:20 pm
“No nation can remain free when the state has greater influence over the knowledge and values transmitted to children than the family does.”

Ron Paul.

Ellen of Tasmania

20 Feb 13 at 3:20 pm
“Barnett boasts it was him who shut down Wilders.”

Ah, the backpedalling begins. First it was “Perth venues” that Barnett was denying Wilders. Confronted with his own link’s refutation of that claim, CL retreats to Barnett ‘shutting down’ Wilders. Except that isn’t true either – Wilders was denied use of government buildings. Last time I checked, most Perth venues aren’t government-owned.

If CL doesn’t skulk away, I guess we’ll have to endure ever-more desperate attempts to distract and derail, with ever-receding goalposts regarding the actual topic, and never an admission of error (let’s be nice and not jump to the conclusion it was a lie).

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 3:27 pm
“Is ~~English~~ english your second language, JamesK?

TFTFY”

Thanks for the chuckles, JamesK. Not sure if you’re being obliging for the sake of entertainment, or if you’re just stupid, but it’s funny either way.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 3:31 pm
That dickhead British backpacker who cost the community thousands searching for him is full of it:

“In the first day I could see I had lost weight, my trousers weren’t fitting anymore and…my hands started to get really small and frail after the first day.”

His hands started to get really small and frail after one day? Pull the other one pal, it plays Jingle Bells.

This loser should be put to work scrub-cutting and building firebreaks till he pays off what it cost to find him. Note that he also claims to have comprehensive survival training. But what can you do when your hands are shrinking?

johanna

20 Feb 13 at 3:31 pm
“But he certainly is not going to use government buildings to promote his message.”

Well as a taxpayer, I’m more than happy for Geert Wilders to use government buildings.

I object to Hizb ut Tahrir having confabs on university premises. Does my voice count?

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 3:36 pm
Thanks for the chuckles, JamesK. Not sure if you’re being obliging for the sake of entertainment, or if you’re just stupid, but it’s funny either way.

As I remarked yesterday on the Religion thread: Always a reply from Jarrah but rarely if ever a response

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 3:39 pm
Well as a taxpayer, I’m more than happy for Geert Wilders to use government buildings.

I trust you’ve given your phone number to the Premier to be consulted next time on such issues, Sister nilk.

How did the Crusade go last night, anyway?

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 3:43 pm
Skeptical Science post a discussion of cloud feedback papers, Reconciling Two New Cloud Feedback Papers.

Evidence suggests that cloud feedback is small and likely positive though possibly negative i.e. inconsequential.

Note how it ends, especially the last paragraph:

Nevertheless, both of these papers show that the short-term cloud feedback is relatively small, and most likely slightly positive (amplifying global warming). Dessler’s group is also looking at other datasets to try to obtain another short-term cloud feedback estimate to help reduce the uncertainty.

Regarding the long-term feedback, for now we will have to be satisfied with the many different lines of evidence that the net overall climate feedback is strongly positive, and climate sensitivity is between 2 and 4.5°C global surface warming in response to a doubling of atmospheric CO2.

That last paragraph isn’t even discussing cloud feedback!

Which schools teach kids to conclude an essay with a discussion of something other than the essay topic?

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 3:44 pm
This is the dangerous speech which SoB wishes his mates had stopped:

Only two weeks ago, a good friend of mine, Lars Hedegaard, a journalist from Denmark, survived an assassination attempt. A foreigner tried to shoot him through the head. Why? For the simple reason that Lars is critical of Islam.

Europe has become a dangerous place for those who criticize Islam.

How dare anyone note how, on an ongoing basis, too many who raise an opinion against Islam end up with a response involving violence.

If it was a lefty like McGeogh instead of Hedegaard who had survived an assassination attempt we’d still be hearing about the event.

Instead, silence.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 3:48 pm
“As I remarked yesterday on the Religion thread: Always a reply from Jarrah but rarely if ever a response”

Again, it’s hard to tell if it’s playing the class clown for laughs, or genuine stupidity. Could be plain old hypocrisy, I guess.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 4:01 pm
Again, it’s hard to tell if it’s playing the class clown for laughs, or genuine stupidity. Could be plain old hypocrisy, I guess.

And again……

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 4:16 pm
When it all gets a bit crazy and even hard liquor at 9am isn’t helping, there is a place I can turn to for perspective – Table Talk. Bad news for Sneakers McGowan I’m afraid,

Labor may win in Western Australia.

H B Bear

20 Feb 13 at 4:21 pm
Could be plain old hypocrisy, I guess.

Geez, Claymate, how do you stand it? Is this theatre of clowns and hypocrites the only stage that you have left to strut your ego on? Like an exile to Elba for your Napoleonic greatness?

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 4:24 pm
More Table Talk goodness,

It’s about an hour and a half before the Nielsen (I guess) comes out, and I suspect it may be good news for Labor.

If it’s so I’ll tell you why I thought this.

It’s to do with the Galaxy poll-of-women-voters in the Sunday Telegraph this morning, the details of it withheld from the interested reader.

A desperate Murdoch fraud if I ever saw one.

I could be wrong.

We’ll see.

From the guy who does Bob Carr’s thinking for him.

H B Bear

20 Feb 13 at 4:33 pm
This is the dangerous speech which SoB wishes his mates had stopped:

Wilders must be silenced. For Pete’s sake, he has views with which Steve disagrees; and John Faine disagrees; and Juanita Phillips disagrees; and Natasha Stott-Despoja disagrees; and Cate Blanchett disagrees; and that dude who always wears T-shirts on The Project disagrees.

The nerve of the guy.

James in Melbourne

20 Feb 13 at 4:45 pm
Did I call for him to be silenced?

No, I did not.

Did I say the police will get involved if the lefties try to “silence” him: yes I did.

Was he silenced: no.

Storm: teacup.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 4:48 pm
Barnett boasts about shutting down Wilders:

WEST Australian Premier Colin Barnett says he may have “played some role” in controversial Dutch MP Geert Wilders being forced to cancel his speaking engagements in Perth…

Mr Wilders was forced to cancel the speaking component of his visit to Perth when he was unable to find a venue to host him, but he still plans to visit the WA capital.

The Premier said on Wednesday his comment that Mr Wilders was not welcome at government buildings might have affected the right-wing politician’s ability to get a venue.

“I don’t want him here. But he’s here, and I’m not going to interfere now,” Mr Barnett told Fairfax radio.

“But he certainly is not going to use government buildings to promote his message.”

Mr Barnett said it was possible venue operators may have been concerned about demonstrations, which was why no one else offered their venue to Mr Wilders after a four-star hotel cancelled his booking.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 4:50 pm
Paul Howes’ own lawyer:

AWU leader Paul Howes has lost a bid to have a larger jury hear his stepfather’s defamation case against him, after his lawyer voiced concerns jurors might regard the union boss and Labor luminary as a “whinger or a sook“.

Are there normal human beings in this party of wacko freaks? It all stems from Howes’ attempt to sell a traditional ALP sob story about his sad childhood.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 4:53 pm
One Liberal finally stands up:

Liberal senator defends anti-Islam Wilders.

CONTROVERSIAL Liberal senator Cory Bernardi says visiting anti-Islam campaigner Geert Wilders should be allowed to exercise his right to free speech…

In a blog post on Wednesday, Senator Bernardi points to reports that Jews and gay people in the Netherlands no longer feel safe from attack by Islamic fundamentalists.

“These fundamentalists are the same people who want to kill Wilders and establish sharia law under a global Caliphate because Muhammad commanded them to back in the 7th century,” Senator Bernardi writes.

“And yet, it is Wilders who is characterised as an extremist.”

Senator Bernardi also questions why it was so hard for Wilders to get an Australian visa but hardline Muslims like Hizb ut-Tahrir leader Taji Mustafa seem to have no issues.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 4:55 pm
Did I call for him to be silenced?

It’s implicit in everything you and the likeminded mob of lefty media spout on the subject.
There. More time and effort wasted responding to a dufus.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:05 pm
should be allowed to exercise his right to free speech…

It is rare but of course sparks hope again when at least ONE Parliamentarian believes in freedom of speech.

.

20 Feb 13 at 5:12 pm
“Is this theatre of clowns and hypocrites the only stage that you have left to strut your ego on?”

Luckily there’s gold to be found among the dross.

“Barnett boasts about shutting down Wilders:”

Damn, I forgot the alternative to continued backpedalling – doubling down on your error. This time with the gall to put the proof of your error directly in the comment.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:15 pm
Barnett boasts about shutting down Wilders:

WEST Australian Premier Colin Barnett says he may have “played some role” in controversial Dutch MP Geert Wilders being forced to cancel his speaking engagements in Perth…

Mr Wilders was forced to cancel the speaking component of his visit to Perth when he was unable to find a venue to host him, but he still plans to visit the WA capital.

The Premier said on Wednesday his comment that Mr Wilders was not welcome at government buildings might have affected the right-wing politician’s ability to get a venue.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 5:19 pm
Wilders was effectively silenced in Perth. Barnett could have said he respectfully disagreed with Wilders but defended the right of those interested to attend his lecture in WA to attend and do so unmolested. He need not have said he was not welcome or that those interested were not welcome to attend, or that he would block any use of government buildings, or have cultivated an environment which would make private providers of facilities cave under pressure. He didn’t do any of these things because he is a moral coward.

The whole kerfuffle is an absolute disgrace. And I am not surprised that there are shameless individuals that could not care less.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 5:21 pm
Heh. Cory Bernarndi: Catallaxy hero.

Woof woof.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 5:22 pm
I’m a long time observer, rare commenter, but Jarrah, over the past few years you’ve turned to shit.

I used to enjoy your stoushes with the regulars, but now I rank you no higher than shitfer and numbers. you’ve become a complete fucking tool.

Whats gone wrong? Why have you turned into a complete twat?

harrys on the boat

20 Feb 13 at 5:23 pm
Wilders was effectively silenced in Perth. Barnett could have said he respectfully disagreed with Wilders but defended the right of those interested to attend his lecture in WA to attend and do so unmolested.

I didn’t realise Barnett had been taking lessons from Red Ted on how to take your base for granted while chasing votes from people who will never, ever vote for you.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 5:24 pm
Shitfer, spell his name right at least you useless fucker.

harrys on the boat

20 Feb 13 at 5:25 pm
Heh. Cory Bernarndi: Catallaxy hero.

Woof woof.

You are such a fucking idiot, Shitfer. Go write a weblog entry about how everyone hates you.

.

20 Feb 13 at 5:25 pm
“Wilders was effectively silenced in Perth.”

He had a press conference scheduled, until he cancelled it. Seems he silenced himself.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:26 pm
“I used to enjoy your stoushes with the regulars, but now I rank you no higher than shitfer and numbers. ”

What makes you think I give a flying proverbial?

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:29 pm
Seems he silenced himself.

Oh yeah. People do that all the time, silence themselves. Nothing to do with the campaign of aggro and denial of venues, the need for constant armed guard.
You have no credibility, Napoleon.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:29 pm
You are such a fucking idiot, Shitfer. Go write a weblog entry about how everyone hates you.

I am serious SoB, if you want to stop acting like a 16 yo girl, get the sex change operation and stop the estrogen injections.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 5:30 pm
Free speech is not free in Australia, it seems.

Andrew

20 Feb 13 at 5:30 pm
What makes you think I give a flying proverbial?

You keep coming back.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:30 pm
A press conference is not a lecture, Jarrah. He was silenced. But, anyway, I’m not so much concerned about Wilders as those who planned on attending his event.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 5:31 pm
Before I start, allow me to thank the Q Society for inviting me to your country. Thank you Debbie, Andrew, Ralf, and all the other volunteers for making this visit possible. Debbie never booked so many conference rooms in her life as in the past few weeks, and never had so many cancellations. Debbie, you are my hero. You have had a very hard time. But I bet you think twice about ever inviting me to Australia again.

The Q Society and its volunteers embody the courage for which Australians are known in Europe.
We, Europeans, owe our freedom in part to the thousands of young and brave Australians who fought, and died, at Passiondale and at Gallipoli.

These Australians – your fathers and grandfathers – persevered against all odds.
And so did the Q Society, despite the efforts of the governing establishment to discourage my visit.

First, Chris Bowen, the then federal minister of Immigration, had me wait five long weeks for a visa, forcing us to postpone my visit from October to February.
Then, the minister implicitly warned people to stay away from my speeches by writing a newspaper article in the Australian saying that I was a fringe figure from the far-right.

Western Australia’s premier Colin Bartnett went as far as to tell the media that I am “not welcome” in his state. I wonder how many public figures in the world have already been told that they are not welcome in Western Australia. Trying to find this out, I googled the words “not welcome in Western Australia.” Guess what? Only two items popped up: “Geert Wilders” and “US nuclear base.”

Private enterprises followed the example by boycotting my visit, declining the booking of venues, turning down adds, and refusing banking services.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 5:32 pm
You comment here, so therefore you’re expecting people to notice and form opinions, Jarrah. Therefore you do give a shit. Why else would you comment?

You have become a complete fucking tool, if that’s your defence.

harrys on the boat

20 Feb 13 at 5:32 pm
“Barnett could have said … He need not have said”

Sure, and as Premier I think he should have stayed out of the whole thing. But while saying different things would have been more appropriate, Barnett has the right to speak his mind too. Maybe it was just pandering to the PC crowd, but maybe it wasn’t.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:33 pm
But, anyway, I’m not so much concerned about Wilders as those who planned on attending his event.

Me too, but probably for a different reason…

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 5:34 pm
Naturally, if the lecture was about the dangers of Christianity, Wilders would not have had any venues cancel on him, would not have had any government monkeys tell him he was “not welcome” and there’d be no leftist morons protesting and preventing people from attending the lecture.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 5:35 pm
Jarrah

So if as a controversial libertarian speaker, some Marxist fuckwit threatened you, the police refused to look after you – and you pull out – you’re “silencing yourself?

It takes a heroic amount of courage to step up to that high personal standard. The fact is legally that you have been intimidated by a violent thug. Apply the same standard you are to violence against women – you wouldn’t dream of openly saying the analogous self condemnations to women, because it would sound ridiculous, unfair and downright medieval.

.

20 Feb 13 at 5:35 pm
“Therefore you do give a shit.”

About some people’s opinions. Not yours.

Commentators need to stop equating themselves with the blog at large. What was that about ego again?

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:35 pm
Barnett has the right to speak his mind too.

Sure, as a private citizen, but when he speaks as WA Premier he needs to be far more circumspect. He’s disgraced himself and abused his position.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 5:36 pm
All those trying to deny Wilders a place to have his say should have “stayed out of the whole thing”. All those who turn up intending to disrupt proceedings should “stay out of the whole thing”.
All those commenting negatively on a man who’s just pointing out the bleeding obvious (while not being PC approved) should “stay out of the whole thing”.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:40 pm
Passchendaele

Cold-Hands

20 Feb 13 at 5:40 pm
Naturally, if the lecture was about the dangers of Christianity,

He would be the keynote speaker at this years Festival of ‘Dangerous’ Ideas.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 5:40 pm
“A press conference is not a lecture, Jarrah. He was silenced.”

LOL. So now an insufficiently large audience is being ‘silenced’? A combination of spooked property owners and poor planning is being ‘silenced’?

“the police refused to look after you”

When did that happen, Dot?

“The fact is legally that you have been intimidated by a violent thug.”

That’s true. I doubt they’d be at the press conference, though.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:40 pm
What was that about ego again?

You are it, Ozymandias.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:41 pm
“Sure, as a private citizen, but when he speaks as WA Premier he needs to be far more circumspect. He’s disgraced himself and abused his position.”

Yeah, I could go along with that. Still, you have to admit Barnett’s words and actions were in no way “shutting down” Wilders.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 5:44 pm
So now an insufficiently large audience is being ‘silenced’? A combination of spooked property owners and poor planning is being ‘silenced’?

Someone’s in denial about the intimidation.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:45 pm
I have a hunch Barnett will lose the election on March 9th. This is quite good news.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 5:47 pm
poor planning

Debbie never booked so many conference rooms in her life as in the past few weeks, and never had so many cancellations.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 5:48 pm
Infidel Tiger, Barnett will win in a landslide.

Andrew

20 Feb 13 at 5:49 pm
LOL. So now an insufficiently large audience is being ‘silenced’? A combination of spooked property owners and poor planning is being ‘silenced’?

It seems you missed the use of ‘effectively’ the first time around. The rest of what you say seems rather childish.

That’s true. I doubt they’d be at the press conference, though.

Wilders didn’t come here to talk to journalists about his difficulties in speaking here, he came here under the invitation of the Q Society to address audiences on a particular topic in Australia. He was prevented from doing so in WA; ergo, he was effectively silenced.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 5:50 pm
This is quite good news.
Yeah, we had that sort of “good news” in 2007.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:50 pm
Private enterprises followed the example by boycotting my visit, declining the booking of venues, turning down adds, and refusing banking services.

What about his ‘uman rights! (I tells ya!)

.

20 Feb 13 at 5:55 pm
As Brandis has pointed out, Dot, instead of a Human Rights Commission, we have one solely obsessed with Vilification. The right to free speech has to be looked after by others.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 5:59 pm
Editorials by AlterNet, The Montreal Gazette, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, and The New York Times have accused Wilders of hypocrisy given that, in their view, Wilders has called for the ban of the sale of the Quran while simultaneously arguing for his own personal freedom of speech.[78][79][80][81]

Heh.

What say ye, modern Crusaders of Catallaxy?

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 5:59 pm
Still, you have to admit Barnett’s words and actions were in no way “shutting down” Wilders.

No, for the simple reason that, had Barnett expressed himself as you and I think he should have, the last cancellation would probably not have happened. Barnett essentially convinced the last hotel to throw Wilders, the Q Society, and the attendees under the proverbial bus.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 5:59 pm
in their view

Show us a quote where Wilders has called for a ban on the sale of the Quran, then. Go on, shouldn’t be hard.

brc

20 Feb 13 at 6:01 pm
What say ye, modern Crusaders of Catallaxy?

How many variations of “your opinions are excremental” do you fail to apprehend?

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 6:01 pm
In a briefing to President Barack Obama, he was described as “no friend of the US: he opposes Dutch military involvement in Afghanistan; he believes development assistance is money wasted; he opposes NATO missions outside ‘allied’ territory; he is against most EU initiatives; and, most troubling, he foments fear and hatred of immigrants.”[91]

He hates fundamentalist Muslims so much he doesn’t want the Dutch fighting them in Afghanistan. Right.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 6:03 pm
Don’t be surprised if this is opposed by the leftist Presbyterian alliance:

BUNDABERG is known for its spirit. Now that spirit is giving back to the flood-hit city.

Bundaberg Distilling Company is launching a special edition of its Bundy Rum to help rebuilding efforts after the city was ravaged by its worst floods ever last month.

Each household will be given a free bottle of the new Road To Recovery Series rum bearing the name of the street it is on.

The remaining bottles to be sold for $60 each and will only be available at the distillery gate, in a bid to attract more visitors to the city.

All proceeds, along with part of the sales from other Bundaberg Rum products, will go towards raising $250,000 to support flood recovery efforts.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 6:05 pm
You look good in a burqa, SFB.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 6:05 pm
See above.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 6:05 pm
Is it not possible to dislike Islam and War at the same time Steve?

I really don’t understand your post at all.

Yobbo

20 Feb 13 at 6:05 pm
If Wilders said that, of course, he is a hypocrite.

AlterNet is as credible as Stalin’s photographic department.

.

20 Feb 13 at 6:06 pm
If Wilders had turned up wishing to lecture on the dangers of the Catholic Church, he would have been awarded a guest spot on Q&A.

I’ve not read anything he said, but it’s the rank hypocrisy and fear of offending that makes me so disappointed. Why Islam is given special treatment by everyone is what makes it so curious. Why has this particular religion elevated itself to being beyond criticism? Is it because of some type of western guilt? The violent reactions to criticism? What really is going on here?

brc

20 Feb 13 at 6:06 pm
Writing in Dutch daily De Volkskrant on Wednesday Wilders said: “Ban this wretched book just like Mein Kampf is banned. Send a signal … to Islamists that the Koran can never, ever be used in our country as an excuse or inspiration for violence.”

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 6:06 pm
He hates fundamentalist Muslims so much he doesn’t want the Dutch fighting them in Afghanistan. Right.

A coherent position. Why would we want to put our own boys at risk in a part of the world that hates us and doesn’t want us there?

Fisky

20 Feb 13 at 6:07 pm
If Wilders said that, of course, he is a hypocrite.

First rule of leftism : never believe what they say until proper evidence is tabled. Remember the climate science death threats?

No doubt Wilders said something like ‘I don’t wish to buy a Quran’ and that has been spun to ‘I think they should be banned from sale’.

I’m not saying he didn’t say it, I’m saying I don’t believe it until someone finds me a quote.

brc

20 Feb 13 at 6:08 pm
OK, he did say it. He’s a hypocrite. Mein Kampf should not be banned, either.

brc

20 Feb 13 at 6:10 pm
Wilders called for the Koran to be banned because it contains numerous incitements to violence. Incitement to violence is not protected by free speech laws, and never has been.

Madam Speaker, the Koran is a book that incites to violence. I remind the House that the distribution of such texts is unlawful according to Article 132 of our Penal Code. In addition, the Koran incites to hatred and calls for murder and mayhem. The distribution of such texts is made punishable by Article 137(e). The Koran is therefore a highly dangerous book; a book which is completely against our legal order and our democratic institutions. In this light, it is an absolute necessity that the Koran be banned for the defence and reinforcement of our civilisation and our constitutional state. I shall propose a second-reading motion to that effect.

Yobbo

20 Feb 13 at 6:12 pm
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=34027

Yobbo

20 Feb 13 at 6:12 pm
Since none of us is Wilders, none of us can be accused of hypocrisy.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 6:15 pm
Andrew Bolt and anyone wishing to speculate on the motives of white “abo self-identifiers” should be free to speak or publish, according to Steve QC.
Merkel should be disciplined, and the judgement against Bolt quashed.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 6:15 pm
Mrs Clara Cowell turns 102, smoked three packs of cigs a day for 82 years.

Has only given up now because family fears fire caused by falling ash.

When she does die, her death will be attributed to smoking.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 6:16 pm
Why has this particular religion elevated itself to being beyond criticism?

Because the clergy have a nasty habit of ordering their flock to lop off critic’s heads.

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 6:16 pm
Mrs Clara Cowell turns 102, smoked three packs of cigs a day for 82 years.

She deserves a medal for all the sin tax she’s paid.

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 6:18 pm
Steve,

I think its pretty obvious Wilders is more concerned about Islam infiltrating the western world.

What it does is its own particular cesspit is a secondary concern.

duncanm

20 Feb 13 at 6:19 pm
“is its” => “in its”

duncanm

20 Feb 13 at 6:19 pm
“Why would we want to put our own boys at risk in a part of the world that hates us and doesn’t want us there?”

If only more people were as sensible as that.

“No, for the simple reason that, had Barnett expressed himself as you and I think he should have, the last cancellation would probably not have happened.”

That’s a heroic assumption, dover, based on no evidence that I can see.

“Barnett essentially convinced the last hotel to throw Wilders, the Q Society, and the attendees under the proverbial bus.”

There you go with ‘essentially’ again. I do not think it means what you think it means. Barnett never even contacted the hotel, so you’re essentially (heh) saying that Barnett has such great rhetorical power to make private businesses throw away money through the mere mention of his disapproval!

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 6:22 pm
Jees some of you guys are lazy.
Wilders calls for banning of Koran, 2007

duncanm

20 Feb 13 at 6:23 pm
“OK, he did say it. He’s a hypocrite.”

That doesn’t actually matter. His prior inconsistent behaviour doesn’t mean his claims are false.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 6:28 pm
Afghanistan was always the left’s Good War – which they’ve now lost – so Wilders’ indifference to it is unsurprising.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 6:36 pm
Wilders from the inside, where mouths are ‘more dangerous than guns’
Shakira Hussein | Feb 20,2013

Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders spoke in Melbourne last night. Shakira Hussein, a Muslim, attended for Crikey — she found it weird and at times menacing.

I toyed with the idea of wearing a Pakistani shalwar kameez to last night’s lecture by visiting Dutch anti-Muslim politician Geert Wilders before deciding to go ethnic-lite — trousers and a short-sleeved shirt covered by a long translucent Malaysian blouse and a scarf draped over my shoulders.

It wasn’t easy to get into the venue, in Melbourne’s northern suburbs, even though I’d arranged to attend as a journalist for Crikey. Every few metres, a Q Society volunteer would stop me to ask for my photo ID and media registration form — always an interesting facial expression as they took in the name “Hussein”.

One last obstacle to pass before I could get into the main hall — a 60-something door-bitch armed with a ferocious glare. “You don’t have a wristband. And your name isn’t on the list. You need to understand, we have to have security procedures,” she told me.

“Please, can’t I just go in? I have multiple sclerosis, it’s difficult for me with all these people milling around. If I get bumped, I’ll fall right over. I’ve been through the metal detectors. I don’t have a gun.”

“Mouths can be more dangerous than guns,” she responded.

When I finally got the all-clear, an older white-haired man with a fatherly manner helped me down the steps to my chair in the media zone.

“What’s your outlook, coming here tonight?” he asked. ”I’m here to listen and learn.” He persisted: ”But your outlook?” ”Well, I’m Muslim …”

“That’s OK. We don’t hate Muslims. But,” he said, sitting me down “we have very heavy security. If you interrupt, or interject, you will be immediately ejected.” He gestured towards my walking stick, my overall physical frailty. “That might injure your back. You wouldn’t want that, would you?”

“I’m not here to interrupt,” I protested. “Believe me …”

“I’m just telling you. You will be evicted and you might get hurt.” He patted my shoulder. “But I love Muslims.”

I sat back in shock, absorbing the fact this mild-mannered man had just threatened me with assault if I stepped out of line. News Limited papers describe the atmosphere inside the convention centre as “serene”. It felt menacing to me.

There were several young men “of Middle Eastern appearance” — most of them Coptic Christians, to judge by the silver crosses on their collars. There was a bearded and robed Egyptian bishop who would have fit the average Cronulla rioter’s visual preconception of a dangerous Islamic extremist. A man wearing a Jewish kippah.

But of course, it was mostly white people, ranging in age from a teenage girl in school uniform to elderly men with walking sticks. Running the gauntlet past the hostile protesters had generated an esprit de corp among them.

“Welcome. We are glad you are here,” read the Powerpoint above the lectern. And the vibe was hyped-up glad — glad and excited with flashes of terrifying.

The Q Society spokesman finally came on stage to open the formal part of the evening. He began with a preamble which he said was read out at the opening of all their meetings, in recognition of Victoria’s “abhorrent” racial and religious vilification laws. The Q Society wanted to undertake a conversation about Islam, but they respected the rule of law and they did not hate Muslims. If anyone in the audience felt “incited” by the reading out of certain Islamic texts, please leave the venue immediately.

Then Geert Wilders took to the stage to a standing ovation and rock-star reception. The familiar face, the hate-speech, the trademark hair. The audience loved him. They laughed at his jokes, applauded his denunciations of Islam, of “elites”, of cultural relativism.

A woman sitting nearby leapt to her feet with her arms outflung and an expression of almost s-xual rapture across her face when Wilders told the crowd to draw upon the Anzac spirit in the defence of their country against “Islamisation”.

Wilders introduced himself as a visitor from the Old Holland to the New Holland; he said he came to warn us of the danger that had befallen Europe and might befall us too, if we were not vigilant. He said flattering things about the brave members of the Q Society who had hosted him — “the Q society embodies the courage for which Australians are known in Europe” — in defiance of the political elites who had fallen victim to cultural relativism (“even worse than multiculturalism”) and were afraid to stand up against Islam.

The audience loved the denunciation of elites even more than they loved the denunciation of Islam.

He said there were high rates of crime among young Muslims and Moroccan men and “the victims are almost never Muslim”. At talk of the s-xual harassment of young girls, there was a low hiss from the audience.

Referring to the news Western Australian Premier Colin Barnett had said he was not welcome, Wilders said he had Googled the words “not welcome in Western Australia”, which brought up two names: Geert Wilders and US nuclear bases. There was a ripple of laughter from the audience at that.

Wilders closed with what he told us was a message of hope. It was not too late to turn back the tide of Islamisation if we took a few simple steps: halt all immigration from Islamic societies, and find and elect politicians who are not afraid to tell the truth about Islam.

I wondered what was generating the elation in the crowd. Not a sense of victory, surely. Five hundred people or so is a sizeable crowd, but it’s not enough to take over the country. Vanguardism, perhaps. The belief that you were ahead of the pack, that you were part of an advanced cohort who had were combatting a danger that others were yet to recognise.

As a member of the sinister conspiracy in question, it was a relief to go home.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 6:36 pm
… inconsistent behaviour …

You mean, like a Bushitler critic now silent about Obama the Drone murderer?

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 6:39 pm
Wilders idea of banning the Quran is pretty dumb.

I can’t think of a banned book that didn’t become more popular due in part to its illicitness.

.

20 Feb 13 at 6:39 pm
Dunno if I can wait to hear this from the ABC, but global sea ice is 73,000 square km above average at the minute.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 6:40 pm
Steve from Brisbane, as someone who was there, and is known to be a member of the Q Society, I’m happy to tell you that you have no idea of what you’re talking about.

You are not the one living under 24/7 security, you are not the one who can’t go on a holiday to the beach with your wife just because you feel like it, you are not the one being threatened with death on a regular basis.

You are too busy playing the token lefty here to the thunderous applause that echoes through the empty sinuses in your skull. Enjoy it while you can, because as history shows us again and again and again, your ilk will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

Not me. I’ve never run down my culture, I don’t elevate other belief systems above my own in the name of appeasement (oh, sorry, I meant ‘getting along’ and ‘being nice’).

When you are brave enough to stand against the politically correct crowd, then you can talk about freedom.

Until the, keep your mindless gloating to yourself. I’m really not interested and I’m sick of it.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 6:46 pm
Wilders idea of banning the Quran is pretty dumb.

Not sure if he actually said that. I think his point was that if Mein Kampf is banned (which it is in part of Europe), then the Koran should also be banned. If my memory serves me correctly I think his position is that neither should be banned.

Correct me if I’m wrong.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 6:49 pm
That’s a heroic assumption, dover, based on no evidence that I can see.

It’s a practical conclusion, Jarrah. The assumption would be: the statements of a WA premier are influential in WA. I don’t think that is at all a ‘heroic assumption’, so much so that you even agreed with me a little earlier.

There you go with ‘essentially’ again. I do not think it means what you think it means. Barnett never even contacted the hotel, so you’re essentially (heh) saying that Barnett has such great rhetorical power to make private businesses throw away money through the mere mention of his disapproval!

Dear oh dear. On the first, its connotations save me. Secondly, does he need to contact the hotel? I simply implied that his comments were the final straw in the circumstances.

dover_beach

20 Feb 13 at 6:56 pm
Enjoy it while you can, because as history shows us again and again and again, your ilk will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

Heh. Made someone cranky today and got a vague death threat-ish response. Nice.

Fundamentalist Islam is indeed problematic. But the approach of Wilders is recognised far and wide, by politicians of the left and right, and even (based on my quote the other day) your own friggin’ Pope you nauseatingly ugly advertisement for conservative Catholicism, as being counterproductive.

This does not mean that he deserves death threats. It does mean he is no hero for his positions.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 6:58 pm
your own friggin’ Pope

SFb has previously said he is a Catholic. Heh.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 7:00 pm
Nilk, is Wilders going to speak in Brisbane? if I am in town I’d like to attend and see what he has to say.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:02 pm
Lucky for you, Mk50, you won’t have to find a cold spoon to take to hit the front of your pants with because he’s not coming here.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:09 pm
Sven 4:58

Who cares how big your shoes are?

kae

20 Feb 13 at 7:10 pm
Poor Shitfer, you still theink there is some form of ‘normal’ Christianity-like islam, and that there is this different aberration-type called ‘fundamentalist islam’.

How truly ignorant you are.

What you describe as ‘fundamentalist’ islam is simply islam.

There’s only one type. There are different categories within that type (shia, sunni etc), but that’s all.

The really sad thing about cretins like you is that you hamper the efforts of Sout-East Asian muslims to turn that vile conquest ideology into a genuine religion actually akin to Christianity. Not my words, those. They come from the senior Imam at a state mosque in the state I lived in. That, he said, was the net impact of western multiculturalism and cultural relativism.

But then I have spent years living in islamic countries, and you have not. And, of course, you are also a poorly educated fantasist and complete moron.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:11 pm
More background on Benedict and Muslims:

Addressing the participants, the Pope said that professing faith in one God, the creator of all humanity, obliges Catholics and Muslims to respect one another and to work together to defend human rights and help those who are suffering. The commandments of love of God and love of neighbor are at “the heart of Islam and Christianity alike,” he said.

Pope Benedict’s Holy Land trip brought further rapprochement with Muslim leaders as the Pope visited a mosque in Jordan, made a major address to Muslim scholars there and visited the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, one of Islam’s holiest sites.

In the 2010 book, “Light of the World,” Pope Benedict said Catholics and Muslims have two basic things in common: “We both defend major religious values — faith in God and obedience to God — and we both need to situate ourselves correctly in modernity.”

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:12 pm
IT is right. Australia has become a leftist shithole. People too scared to criticise Islam to the point of silencing those who would speak out. Islamists have won.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 7:17 pm
Honorary ABC luvvie Richard Dawkins ‘There’s no God and Islam is evil’…

The 71-year-old described Islam as “one of the great evils of the world” in his lecture, The God Delusion, as part of a rare visit to the Western Isles.
…
Members of the audience cheered loudly as Prof Dawkins used the appearance to attack Islam, while stressing that the “vast majority of  Muslims” were not evil, only their religion was.

Prof Dawkins said: “We are terrified of being called ‘Islamophobic’. It is a disgrace a religion prescribes death for leaving it. The vast majority of Muslims would not dream of doing that, but they are taught it in their madrassas… and it only takes a minority to put that into practice. And, as  we have seen, terrible things happen.”

He’s been a Q&A guest hasn’t he?

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 7:17 pm
Members of the audience cheered loudly as Prof Dawkins used the appearance to attack Islam, while stressing that the “vast majority of  Muslims” were not evil, only their religion was.

Wow. The Dawk and Wilders are on the same page.

Good.

He’s been a Q&A guest hasn’t he?

Not any more.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 7:21 pm
Not being involved in your vile sexual perversions, Shitfer, and having no desire at all to help youb plumb the depths of the lake of raw sewage where your soul should be, I have no idea what your 1909 post means.

That makes me a lucky man.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:22 pm
Islamists have won.

Only a preliminary skirmish. Not the war.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 7:22 pm
You can barely get through a day’s comments without reference to someone or other’s “freckle”, you idiot Mk50. They seem to take up an inordinate amount of your imagination.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:26 pm
I think , in a debate on Islamic influence on Australian society, a distinction needs to be made between Shia and Sunni.
In my experience Shia is preferable.

jumpnmcar

20 Feb 13 at 7:28 pm
People are too afraid to speak out; hotels cancel events where someone would hold a lecture that criticises Islam; writers and cartoonists killed or under constant threat for daring to point out the cruelty of Islam; politicians call anyone who criticises the “religion” racist and Islamophobic; Christians murdered by Islamists and no one speaks out about that; security on steroids at airports etc. Yep the Islamists have won.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 7:28 pm
Stealers Wheel must have been prophetic to have written lyrics like this. Stuck in the middle with you.
Yes I’m stuck in the middle with you,
And I’m wondering what it is I should do,
It’s so hard to keep this smile from my face,
Losing control, yeah, I’m all over the place,
Clowns to the left of me , Jokers to the right
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 7:30 pm
Potemkin’s Village

Sometimes subtlety simply doesn’t cut it… here

Grigory Potemkin

20 Feb 13 at 7:32 pm
You know you’re dealing with a dud religion when the best slogan its adherents can come up with is God is great.
First of all, duh! By definition a god is great.
Second, “great” isn’t all that great. As a descriptor, it’s on par with “nice” although I suspect that says more about the general debasement of our language than anything else. But you’d think that people would move with the times or are you telling me there are no Arabic equivalents for fantastic, excellent or any similar superlatives?
Third what is He great at? Macramé? Making stuff? Daytime TV? What? I say He’s great at being an obscure git, given the multitude of sects in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. For someone who is omniscient He’s a shithouse communicator.
I see no redeeming features in Islam. At least the Christians advertise their God as a God of love. Islam appears to be misogynistic (thanks JG for ensuring that term is now common currency), self absorbed and just downright nasty.

Lloyd

20 Feb 13 at 7:33 pm
Yep the Islamists have won.

Not yet they haven’t. Things like the Wilders demonstrations tend to make otherwise unengaged people take notice.

But it takes a long time for public momentum to build.

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 7:34 pm
Yep the Islamists have won.

Not ‘won’. Winning perhaps.

We don’t live under Sharia yet. Plenty of blood to be spilt if they try make that happen here.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 7:34 pm
I notice Stepford is back after a long sojourn. I hope it doesn’t mean Monster isn’t too far away.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 7:35 pm
We don’t live under Sharia yet.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 7:36 pm
In my experience Shia is preferable.

Dunno. It’s a toss up. Saudi or Iran? Al Qaeda or Hezbollah?

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 7:36 pm
Third what is He great at?

The fire. He’s great and burning kaffurs.

For someone who is omniscient He’s a shithouse communicator.

Same with every other god.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 7:40 pm
~~and~~ at

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 7:41 pm
Oh, so that queer reference is to one of your disgusting sexual deviancies.

Thanks for confirming that, Shitfer.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:42 pm
Shitfer’s Catallaxy aversion therapy obviously wasn’t very successful.

H B Bear

20 Feb 13 at 7:43 pm
Grigory, spelling matters.

mct

20 Feb 13 at 7:47 pm
HBB:

Shitfer’s Catallaxy aversion therapy obviously wasn’t very successful.

Obviously we have to try harder.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 7:48 pm
I used to enjoy your stoushes with the regulars, but now I rank you no higher than shitfer and numbers. you’ve become a complete fucking tool.

Correct. Jarrah is a big government leftist smartarse underminer who thinks his shit doesn’t stink and barracks for the political garbage temporarily running this country.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 7:49 pm
You know you’re dealing with a dud religion when the best slogan its adherents can come up with is God is great.

Shouting allahu akbar (God is greater) worked well for this follower

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 7:50 pm
Tom

What’s your opinion of Stepford’s return. Don’t sugar coat it like you sometimes do to be nice. Offer a just and fair observation.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 7:55 pm
The only difference between Wilders and Dawkins is that Wilders has not criticised Christianity enough to endear himself to the ABC.

In other words, he’s a filthy racist.

There is one well-known atheist crusader who is pretty forthright in saying that Islam is by far the worst of the religions: Sam Harris.

There was a great discussion held with him Dawkins, Hitchens and Dennett where he basically forced the others to acknowledge this.

Yobbo

20 Feb 13 at 7:55 pm
Shouting allahu akbar (God is greater) worked well for this follower

It did Splat. You’re not looking at it in a proper context. Perhaps God blew up that fucker.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 7:57 pm
There was a great discussion held with him Dawkins,

Yobbo, why do you keep mentioning that piece of shit? His very first utterance on that stupid Q&A show was to slander Maggie Thatcher’s government calling her time the law of the jungle.

As long as he’s atheist he’s alright then, hey?

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:00 pm
Splat, this one is even funnier.

Words fail with this idiot. He’s a muslim shitfer. There is just nothing that he did not do as wrongly as it is possible to do.

Think of it as evolution in action. Baldy Achmed ain’t gonna pass these genes anywhere.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 8:02 pm
Geebus, getting those 2 comments stuck in moderation or ban- bot is deeply worrying.

jumpnmcar

20 Feb 13 at 8:04 pm
Dawkins isn’t an economist JC. I don’t look to him for his views on economics.

In fact to be fair, the main reason that the ABC aren’t threatened by someone like Dawkins is that he isn’t a politician. He calls himself an “educator”, and his only real political objective is to change school curriculums.

If he said that muslim immigration should be banned, they would probably put him on the bad people list too.

Just so happens that I agree with both Wilders and Dawkins. Religion should not be taught in schools except in history class, and religious fundamentalists should be banned from immigrating here.

Yobbo

20 Feb 13 at 8:08 pm
In my experience Shia is preferable.

The look and feel of the current Iranian doomsday cult doesn’t support that thesis. Sufism is the only branch that has any claim to “moderation”, and even then you’d have to watch them closely.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 8:08 pm
religious fundamentalists should be banned from immigrating here.

The current regime doesn’t include this test under either “health” or “security” headings.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 8:10 pm
JC, Dogshit arrived on the open thread at 9.22am this morning. His only purpose in being here is to pick fights. That is the classic definition of a troll. He is also a sexual pervert. If he isn’t gone by 9.22pm tonight, I promise him a shitrain of abuse until he has another nervous breakdown or he removes himself, whichever comes first.

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 8:10 pm
MK

I don’t get how stupid that moron was. He shoots at around the 40 second mark and the other side returns fire with the bullets hitting the building to his right, which he saw. The return was freaking close. He then goes right again in the same position. What a moron.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:13 pm
Fair and just points Tom… as always.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:14 pm
In my experience Shia is preferable.

To clarify, the Shia I have met from Afghanistan were assimilating nicely and were glad to be outside Sunni Taliban persecution.

jumpnmcar

20 Feb 13 at 8:14 pm
Dawkins isn’t an economist JC. I don’t look to him for his views on economics.

So freaking what, he’s a leftist twat and you’re making excuses for him because he agrees with your views on religious issues.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:15 pm
The only difference between Wilders and Dawkins is that Wilders has not criticised Christianity enough to endear himself to the ABC.

In other words, he’s a filthy racist.

Christians aren’t turning his country upside down.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 8:16 pm
Just so happens that I agree with both Wilders and Dawkins. Religion should not be taught in schools except in history class, and religious fundamentalists should be banned from immigrating here.

It basically is a history class, Yobbo, at least in NSW.

Yobbo – of course I know you won’t regulate private schools, and that belief questions on immigration forms are next to useless.

.

20 Feb 13 at 8:17 pm
Islamists have won.
Only a preliminary skirmish. Not the war.

They have won :

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74805

Mohamed is the most popular baby name just about everywhere in the western world. That is the future.

Arnost

20 Feb 13 at 8:21 pm
I agree questions on immigration forms are useless.

Which is why it’s in our best interest to just ban immigration from muslim countries altogether.

We can easily fill our quotas with only Chinese people.

Yobbo

20 Feb 13 at 8:22 pm
Splat, this one is even funnier.

Brave but dumb. One commenter picked up on the why.

Guy who shot the fighter saw him coming a mile away, look his shadow gives him away a few seconds before he starts firing.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 8:25 pm
Just look at these little fuckers. Stepford once said I was too optimistic about technology. What a complete imbecile.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2281403/U-S-Air-Force-developing-terrifying-swarms-tiny-unmanned-drones-hover-crawl-kill-targets.html

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:27 pm
Re Barnett’s disgraceful comments: I wonder under what piece of legislation the WA Premier can unilaterally ban a person or entity from hiring a public space owned by the State? I’m betting there is none. He is just a grandstanding jerk. And, his comments were a clear signal to private venue owners that they had better not hope for police protection if violent nutters turn up at a Wilders event.

Re Wilders and banning the Koran: if you read the Parliamentary speech quoted above, he is sticking their own anti-hate speech laws up them. He points out that the way this law is applied is highly selective, along politically correct lines. Mein Kampf, which is banned, is actually nowhere near as obnoxious in its calls for bloodshed as the Koran. So, he is challenging them to be consistent under their own legislation.

johanna

20 Feb 13 at 8:27 pm
Mohamed is the most popular baby name just about everywhere in the western world. That is the future.

No it isn’t. It’s a cause for concern but not outright pessimism.

You can’t make predictions like that without taking into account longevity potential and what future technology will do to improve lifespan.

Nothing wrong with having more old people if they are able to live productive lives.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:30 pm
Shouting allahu akbar (God is greater) worked well for this follower

One would have thought the Sun King had taught them by now the only thing they get for shouting that is a summary execution by one of his drones.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 8:35 pm
It will be interesting to see if the MSM start doubling down on the Greens now they have walked out on Labor. To date the ABC and fauxfacts have been shielding the Greens from scrutiny and have always thrown marshmellow questions at them.

The stenographers should now have the green light (pardon the pun) from the turdman to hammer Greens day and night on all their lunatic policies.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 8:37 pm
No they won’t Splat because when it’s all said and done the agreement is still there. There’s no way the Slime would cause the end of this nightmare. Tubbsie Milne bullshit was only grandstanding so as to differentiate a commodity product- in this case the two major leftwing parties.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 8:40 pm
Oscar’s story stumped by stumps…

#OscarPistorius note: the significance of the trajectory – Oscar claims he was on his stumps (lower) when he opened fire. BB

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 8:42 pm
The stenographers should now have the green light (pardon the pun) from the turdman to hammer Greens day and night on all their lunatic policies.

It is all another media stunt to distract attention, another version of the faux worst day in history of Australian sport.

I will believe there is a true divorce when the costings of Green policies gets leaked from Treasury.

Until that is the case it is all p*ss and wind.

Token

20 Feb 13 at 8:45 pm
Thank you, mct. Fixed

Grigory Potemkin

20 Feb 13 at 8:46 pm
Corangamite is the most marginal Labor-held seat in Australia. The sitting member is Darren Cheeseman, who bragged about and was one of the key backers of the air tax, which has forced two aluminium smelters in the region (Geelong and Portland) to the brink of bankruptcy, while the local Ford factory is being propped up by government subsidies. His doomed electoral strategy, in an email tonight, is to promise bribes, standover tactics, protectionism and Swanloads of promises that can’t be afforded or delivered:

Dear Tom,

Creating and supporting jobs has always been my number one priority, I have been a strong advocate for our manufacturers in Geelong.

I am proud of Labor’s response to the Global Financial Crisis that kept Geelong working and everything we have done such as the $34 million investment in Ford, $37 million carbon fibre centre at Deakin University or the $36 million to protect 600 jobs at Alcoa.

However, we all know that our local manufacturers are experiencing challenges due to the resources boom, the high Australian dollar and the rapid growth of Asian economies. To meet these challenges, Labor has just announced A Plan for Australian Jobs.

Labor’s $1 billion plan for industry is backing our local manufacturers with four key innovations. Large projects must give Australian businesses a fair chance to win work, protection for local manufacturers from unfairly dumped goods from overseas, better access for small businesses to finance, skills, technology and Government support Industry and Innovation Precincts linking business and university

There is record investment of hundreds of millions of dollars is going into major projects in Australia’s resources and infrastructure sectors. But local firms can struggle to win work on these projects, which are often run by multinationals unfamiliar with Australian suppliers. Projects worth more than $500 million will have to adopt Australian Industry Participation plans outlining how they will give local businesses a fair chance to win work on these projects. It is estimated that this change could mean extra work of around $1.6 billion a year – translating into hundreds of new jobs for Geelong.

In addition the Government will improve safeguards for local industry against unfair competition from goods dumped into the Australian market. A new Anti-Dumping Commission is being created to investigate complaints of dumping which is injuring local industry and costing local jobs.

Federally we already buy more Australian-made cars for its vehicle fleet. However, the NSW, Queensland and WA State Governments and many local councils buy significantly lower proportions of Australian-made cars. This is not acceptable – Labor has appointed a new Automotive Supplier Advocate to boost the number of Australian-made cars in State Government and private sector vehicle fleets.

Australian businesses need to be more innovative to capitalise on the economic opportunities of the future. We have incredible research going on at places like Deakin University, linking this research to jobs is what the 10 Industry Innovation Precincts Australia wide will be about – of course I will be working hard with the region to develop our bid for a Industry Innovation Precinct here in Geelong.

Please visit my web-site http://www.darrencheeseman.org.au for more information.

Yours sincerely

Darren Cheeseman MP

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 8:46 pm
and his only real political objective is to change school curriculums.

LOL

Dawkins is pedestrian leftist who loathes the Catholic Church to such an extent that like Yobbo it could described as a defining feature.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 8:50 pm
MK50 no, Geert’s not going to Brissie. He’ll be in Sydney fri evening. As I’m here in Melbourne, I have no idea what entertainments are planned for him – he got to cuddle up with a koala the other day, so there’s not much else to do really, is there? LOL

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 9:00 pm
JC. On dead baldy Achmed – yep. In the first few seconds you see that the wall’s been hit already by return fire. He’s in typical spray&pray mode, he jams the weapon and he’s obviously returning the same spot again and again for S&P. You could go on all day describing what the dumb terr was doing wrong. But I’ll just describe what he’s doing right.

Dying.

As mentioned, he’s a muzzie Shitfer.

Mk50 of Brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 9:01 pm
“You mean, like a Bushitler critic now silent about Obama the Drone murderer?”

So easy to hook you, CL.

Not only are you shamelessly using the tu quoque fallacy, it doesn’t even apply. “Now silent”? Give me a break – I called Obama a war criminal for his escalation of civilian-killing drone strikes (bringing Soon out of retirement specifically to castigate me for saying so). Apparently to you, that’s being ‘silent’.

But of course this is your aim – make up total bullshit about me so I have to defend myself, and thereby derailing the discussion about your other lies. It’s an effective tactic, I grant you, but cheap. That you resort to it says a lot about the weakness of your arguments.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 9:02 pm
Breaking:
Two bottles of testosterone and needles were found in Oscar Pistorius house.

Intruder? no. Roid rager? yes.

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 9:07 pm
So easy to hook you C.L.

Look upon my works, you mighty, and despair.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 9:11 pm
Nilk, someone here earlier linked to the Crikey ferals who sent a muslim girl wearing a “Malaysian shawl” to the Wilders event in an attempt to provoke the organisers and/or attendees. She managed to produce about 800 words of smartarse student newspaper insults and claimed to be a cripple (I’m not sure what effect she was attempting to achieve). Did you notice her? Did anyone inside the hall disrupt proceedings?

Tom

20 Feb 13 at 9:13 pm
Civilian-killing drone strikes

Oh yeah, those “civilians”.
Wouldn’t happen anywhere but for the drones, the drones!

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 9:14 pm
“The assumption would be: the statements of a WA premier are influential in WA.”

Not just influential. So influential, businesses will leave money on the table on his say-so, not their own evaluation. Heroic.

“Secondly, does he need to contact the hotel? I simply implied that his comments were the final straw in the circumstances.”

Don’t do a CL backpedal. You said he “convinced” the hotel to throw Wilders under the bus. You tried to suggest the Premier actively sought a change of mind by the hotel. Which is just silly.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 9:14 pm
The next person to invoke the tu prique fallusy gets banned, right Sinc? Listening, Shitfer? 9.22pm approaches, so be afraid. As for me, enough of this frivolity. Book beckons.

blogstrop

20 Feb 13 at 9:18 pm
“Oh yeah, those “civilians”.”

Oh my unicorn, not another one of these “all muzzies are terrorists” types.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 9:18 pm
“The next person to invoke the tu prique fallusy gets banned, right Sinc?”

How about the next one to use it? Makes much more sense… sorry, forgot who I was talking to.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 9:19 pm
One would have thought the Sun King had taught them by now the only thing they get for shouting that is a summary execution by one of his drones.

We can only hope.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 9:20 pm
I called Obama a war criminal for his escalation of civilian-killing drone strikes …

Obama is not a war criminal. The drones target terrorists not civilians. If the terrorists want to surround themselves with civvies that’s their problem.

The object of war is to win it. What is the point of allowing your enemy to have a place where you won’t go after him?

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 9:27 pm
Joe Hildebrand poleaxed the Greens and Labor with another classic rant on Paul Murray live.
Well worth viewing when it pops up on the web site .

Splatacrobat

20 Feb 13 at 9:33 pm
Tom nobody inside made trouble, although we knew there would be plants there. That’s a given.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 9:37 pm
The drones target terrorists not civilians. If the terrorists want to surround themselves with civvies that’s their problem.

It’s the civilians problem if they’re a few houses up from a supposed “terrorist”?

twostix

20 Feb 13 at 9:39 pm
It’s the civilians problem if they’re a few houses up from a supposed “terrorist”?

Yep.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 9:44 pm
“The drones target terrorists not civilians.”

Good to know you unquestioningly accept everything government tells you to believe. Lets me know to basically ignore you when it comes to questions like this.

PS Don’t tell CL, but there’s a left-wing site criticising Obama for his drone strikes. We have to keep such knowledge from him lest his brain explode from the cognitive dissonance.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 9:47 pm
Two bottles of testosterone and needles were found in Oscar Pistorius house.

Testosterone doesn’t cause aggression. Although having none can turn you into a passive aggressive little bitch.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 9:51 pm
… there’s a left-wing site criticising Obama for his drone strikes.

Really? A whole website?

But the cognitive dissonance is all yours and all the left’s. Oh what a racket you made about military tribunals and Gitmo. No need for either when you’re killing alleged terrorists (and their women and children) from the air, huh? But Bush.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 9:53 pm
You’re incoherent, CL. Go to bed, you have a big day of making shit up tomorrow.

Jarrah

20 Feb 13 at 9:55 pm
Let’s be honest. Pistorious should never have permitted to bounce along with actual runners. Now we learn that he was a drug-assisted cheat anyway.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 9:56 pm
According to your ABC, Twitter and Facebook are as addictive as tobacco or alcohol. This has already recognised in (you guessed it) the UK. Clearly we need some serious restrictions on these things, limiting access for people who can’t help themselves.

John Mc

20 Feb 13 at 10:01 pm
Might not have been testosterone, maybe just some legal herbal supp claimed to raise levels. There’s lots of that crap about (e.g. Tribulus) and it doesn’t do much. A tweet suggested that.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 10:01 pm
Good to know you unquestioningly accept everything government tells you to believe.

Do you actually believe that the US government targets civilians in the 21st century? Good to know you unquestioningly accept any old conspiracy theory.

Lets me know to basically ignore you when it comes to questions like this.

Good. As for ‘question like this’: If the US want to classify every fighting age male who dies with the terrorist as a combatant, then they are probably right. And in any case I don’t care.

This is war, not a police action. If the enemy want to dress as civilians and hide amongst civilians then that is their choice. But the consequence of that choice is that civilians will die.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 10:08 pm
Don’t be silly, Jarrah. I remember when you were Fatfingers, remember. You infested blogs with anti-Bushitler hatred, ‘passionate’ concern about ‘illegal’ wars, ‘torture’ and the human rights of civilians. But that was when Bush was president.

Not a peep from your new ‘libertarian’ persona about Obama the drone maniac.

And today – following (and because of) your self-beclowning re waterboarding and bin Laden – you lobbed here filled with grouchiness, re-quoting Premier Barnett’s boast about sidelining Wilders. (Which became evidence he wasn’t boasting about it).

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 10:09 pm
Pistorious should never have permitted to bounce along with actual runners.

Correct. Especially when the sporting administration banned him but the legal profession thought they knew better.

Then he had the chutzpah to complain that the runner who beat him in the Paralympics had blades that gave him an unfair advantage.

jupes

20 Feb 13 at 10:12 pm
@Lateline: Tonight on Lateline AWU National Secretary Paul Howes. 10:30 on ABC1 #lateline

With Tony Bones

May just be a rant about tea imbibing robber barons – but I remember that show in 2010…

Arnost

20 Feb 13 at 10:15 pm
Shakira Hussein, who was not ill-treated:

But of course, it was mostly white people

How does she know? They might have been aboriginal.
By the way, did Crikey ever send a non-muslim woman to a Hizb al-Tahrir speech?

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 10:20 pm
Plain packaging…

This is hilarious: in Victoria, you can now put a “Pokies” sign in front of your club again but…

The signs must be in white lettering on a single colour background with no ”decorative ridges or illumination”.

Because Lord knows what will happen if we allow decorative ridges or illumination.

Decade-old ban lifted on poker machine signs.

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 10:22 pm
What about a super sized poker machine out front? Like the Giant Pineapple or Coffs Harbour’s banana.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 10:26 pm
Infidel Tiger, Barnett will win in a landslide.

I’m not so sure. This election reminds me of Kennett ’99.

A week ago I would have cared, but not now.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 10:27 pm
Nilk, your put down (well deserved) of Steve is a beauty, well said.

As to the Crikey piece, funny how she had nothing to say about what was actually said by the speaker, just a collection of snide observations.

nic

20 Feb 13 at 10:29 pm
An offer too good to refuse (via Tim Blair).

Want to win a seat at the table and have the ear of Australia’s most influential woman? Then you need to tell us in 25 words or less what question you would most like to ask the Prime Minister.

Tell ‘em here.

Steve of Ferny Hills

20 Feb 13 at 10:29 pm
I look forward to the special “Gina Tax” if Labor wins in WA.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 10:30 pm
In fact, why hasn’t anyone complained that Gina could have come to the rescue of “free speech” Wilders by buying a convention centre just for his visit?

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 10:33 pm
nic: are you another mad conservative Catholic woman? Sorry, the quota’s been filled.

steve from brisbane

20 Feb 13 at 10:34 pm
CL, I don’t know about anywhere else in the country, but in Victoriastan you can’t get cash out of an atm at premises that have pokies.

It’s all about looking out for those poor problem gamblers who blow the housekeeping money on those things.

Too bad for those of us who just want to get a few bucks out to pay for drinks. Some of us get really tired of being treated as unable to look after themselves to the extent of having a bartender swipe your card, punch in the amount you want to take out of your account (although you’re allowed to key your own PIN) before going over to the actual cash dispenser.

I asked a bartender what he thought of it, and he thought it was okay. I replied that it was offensive because I rarely gamble and at 45 I don’t think I need to answer to someone else for my own spending money. It’s treating me as a problem gambler.

He’d never thought of it like that.

And then we have bars and clubs where they won’t serve you shots. I like the occasional shot of Jagermeister with a soda chaser, and I’ve had 2 places refuse to sell me those, and one other provide it to me on the sly.

In this day and age it’s ridiculous and insulting.

Bloody nanny staters.

My poor offspring is getting an extreme education in the soft socialism we’re living under. She’s learning that when you treat everyone the same, you have to keep the standards low so good drivers are punished by speed humps and traffic islands because they’re cheaper than going after hoons and dealing with them.

People who don’t gamble are treated like gamblers and don’t have unimpeded access to their own money because that looks after the gamblers. Of course rather than gamblers having to deal with the consequences of their habit – can’t feed the kids? Well lose them or lose your habit – we need to be considerate and think of their feelings, or why they became problem gamblers in the first place.

That so annoys me.

nilk

20 Feb 13 at 10:39 pm
nilk, 11:30:

I wonder how long [Huxley] held onto that silly idea for?

For the rest of his life.
The McCarran Act (1952) denied US citizenship to any person who refused to bear arms for other than religious reasons. Though almost blind, and far older than any call-up would require, at his citizenship hearing Huxley insisted that he was a pacifist and could not agree to the provision that he might bear arms for his country; the judge, doing all he could to enable such a famous literary man to finesse that requirement, asked Huxley whether he were not a religious man. Huxley replied that he was indeed a religious man but that his opposition to war was entirely philosophical. Accordingly, he was denied US citizenship.

Maybe he should have tried Kumbaya.

He pioneered psychedelics instead.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 10:50 pm
nilk at 11:30 am:

I wonder how long [Huxley] held onto that silly idea for?

For the rest of his life.
The McCarran Act (1952) denied US citizenship to any person who refused to bear arms for other than religious reasons. Though almost blind, and far older than any call-up would require, at his citizenship hearing Huxley insisted that he was a pacifist and could not agree to the provision that he might bear arms for his country; the judge, doing all he could to enable such a famous literary man to finesse that requirement, asked Huxley whether he were a religious man. Huxley replied that he was indeed a religious man but that his opposition to war was entirely philosophical. Accordingly, he was denied US citizenship.

Deadman

20 Feb 13 at 10:53 pm
Paul Howes admits Labor enemy of miners.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 10:54 pm
From their ABC

Bulgaria’s government has resigned from office after nationwide protests against high electricity prices, joining a long list of European administrations felled by austerity.

So high electricity prices are caused by austerity? Thank heavens they’re not caused by carbon madness.

Steve of Ferny Hills

20 Feb 13 at 10:59 pm
WSJ Ed: President Armageddon
The Washington Monument ploy and other Obama gambits.

President Obama returned from a long weekend with his golfing buddies on Tuesday to take up his by now familiar political stand: If Republicans don’t raise taxes in return for more spending, the world will end. We wish he’d stayed on the putting green.

Flanked by emergency medical personnel, Mr. Obama made his usual threat of Armageddon if automatic spending cuts go forward on March 1. Americans can expect more such melodrama in the coming days, so as a public service we thought we’d break down the President’s three biggest political tricks.

• The Washington Monument ploy.

…..

• The recession scare.

…….

• A tax increase disguised as “tax reform.

….

The sequester is far from ideal and it would make much more sense to work with Congress to set priorities. But Mr. Obama has rejected every meaningful reform in entitlements that Republicans or his own Simpson-Bowles commission have offered. ObamaCare will add more than $1 trillion in new costs and add some 17 million people to Medicaid, but he says this can’t be touched. In his State of the Union address Mr. Obama proposed $83.4 billion in new spending, according to a tally by the National Taxpayers Union.

If Mr. Obama really wants to eliminate the sequester, Republicans are ready to negotiate. But if he won’t drop his tax increase and negotiate in good faith, as he hasn’t during his Presidency, then the sequester is the only way that any spending is going to be cut. The economy will be better for it.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 11:03 pm
My entry for lunch with the PM,

Ms Gillard, has Tim ever complained about the size of your hands?

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 11:07 pm
Shit even the NYT was taken aback by the Obummer demagoguery:

Obama’s Forecast on Cuts Is Dire, but Timing Is Disputed

President Obama on Tuesday painted a dire picture of federal government operations across the United States should automatic budget cuts hit on March 1: F.B.I. agents furloughed, criminals released, flights delayed, teachers and police officers laid off and parents frantic to find a place for children locked out of day care centers.

“Federal prosecutors will have to close cases and let criminals go,” Mr. Obama said, flanked by law enforcement officers at the White House. “Tens of thousands of parents will have to scramble to find child care for their kids.”

While the effects may ultimately be significant, many are unlikely to be felt immediately, officials said Tuesday after the president’s remarks.

Obummer really is a thoroughgoing jerk.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 11:08 pm
F.B.I. agents furloughed, criminals released, flights delayed, teachers and police officers laid off and parents frantic to find a place for children locked out of day care centers.

It’s almost like he thinks the gov’t spending is keeping the economy going, and it would grind to a halt without it.

This must be what a lot of people actually believe.

Eddystone

20 Feb 13 at 11:19 pm
This is funny! Turnbull being interviewed about the NBN and telehealth crap.

It’s like that that Clark and Dawes duo on the ABC, but actually funny.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 11:21 pm
John Boehner, WSJ: The President Is Raging Against a Budget Crisis He Created
Obama invented the ‘sequester’ in the summer of 2011 to avoid facing up to America’s spending problem.

A week from now, a dramatic new federal policy is set to go into effect that threatens U.S. national security, thousands of jobs and more. In a bit of irony, President Obama stood Tuesday with first responders who could lose their jobs if the policy goes into effect. Most Americans are just hearing about this Washington creation for the first time: the sequester. What they might not realize from Mr. Obama’s statements is that it is a product of the president’s own failed leadership.

The sequester is a wave of deep spending cuts scheduled to hit on March 1. Unless Congress acts, $85 billion in across-the-board cuts will occur this year, with another $1.1 trillion coming over the next decade. There is nothing wrong with cutting spending that much—we should be cutting even more—but the sequester is an ugly and dangerous way to do it.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 11:22 pm
Oh my, that Turnbull interview. Good call on the Clark and Dawes comparison, Harold.

Gab

20 Feb 13 at 11:25 pm
SIMON SHARWOOD, REGISTER:

Hi, Simon Sharwood from The Register. We are a London-based publication (inaudible) and also in New York and San Francisco and so I took up your challenge and I asked my San Francisco bureau to find me an example of an FTTN going, or going well in the US and they couldn’t find me one.

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Not AT&T? Did they miss that one?

SIMON SHARWOOD, REGISTER:

They may have done. We are not the most rigorous organisation!

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

You are pulling my leg here. I mean, AT&T has got a gigantic FTTN set-up which they call U-Verse; which they’re expanding . . .

SIMON SHARWOOD, REGISTER:

I did get them after a public holiday.

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Don’t you understand? You’re basically mocking yourself here.

SIMON SHARWOOD, REGISTER:

Yeah, I do understand.

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Alright, okay. Terrific.

Harold

20 Feb 13 at 11:31 pm
Steve, does some big hairy dude let you out of the cupboard every now and then? I barely had to comment while you were locked up. Things were so pleasant. You’re still a fuckwit.

Tiny Dancer

20 Feb 13 at 11:32 pm
Splat 11:40 last night

I don’t think that’s it unless the minister was interviewed after these two. I didn’t hear them, I just heard the minister.

kae

20 Feb 13 at 11:42 pm
The Hayek/Keynes feature on a SBS was very good.

Very balanced and fair too, I think, with the possible exception of the concluding observation about the GFC being caused by the market.

I also liked Lawson’s summary of the banking industry’s lazy conceit in a market/sugar daddy state hybrid system. “Heads, we win; tails the taxpayer loses.”

C.L.

20 Feb 13 at 11:45 pm
Steve, does some big hairy dude let you out of the cupboard every now and then? I barely had to comment while you were locked up. Things were so pleasant. You’re still a fuckwit.

What are you saying TD?

The break hasn’t done him any good?

It’s early days but he might be worse.

The monster should never be fed.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 11:47 pm
The Hayek/Keynes feature on a SBS was very good.

I caught some of it and was very surprised.

I thought they did a good job of explaining him as well but I’m no economist.

JamesK

20 Feb 13 at 11:49 pm
This is funny! Turnbull being interviewed about the NBN and telehealth crap.

It’s like that that Clark and Dawes duo on the ABC, but actually funny.

I think we can all agree that the dumbest humans on the planet are IT journalists. My god that was horrendous to read.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 11:50 pm
I also liked Lawson’s summary of the banking industry’s lazy conceit in a market/sugar daddy state hybrid system. “Heads, we win; tails the taxpayer loses.”

Only thing is that’s a myth.

Who are “the banks”?

It’s the shareholders I presume and every bank that got into trouble saw their shareholders diluted to the shithouse.

Take Citigroup, one of the worst offenders. Citi stock was trading at 600 bucks a share in 2007. It traded as low as a buck in the GFC. The management also lost their jobs. To all intents the stockholders lost everything.

It’s trading at 44 bucks now because of a reverse split. In reality it’s trading at US$4.4.

And what’s happened with the new regs?

Banks dominate all facets of the US finance markets and the barriers to entry are greater still.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 11:53 pm
I think we can all agree that the dumbest humans on the planet are IT journalists.

Ummm fatboy was an It journalist.

Jc

20 Feb 13 at 11:54 pm
Ummm fatboy was an It journalist.

The prosecution is retiring to chambers for celebratory drinks.

Infidel Tiger

20 Feb 13 at 11:55 pm
Tim Blair

Christine Milne talks about the carbon tax in 2011:

It was the Greens who put this on the table after the election. It’s part of our agreement with the Prime Minister.

Labor now disputes that version of events:

Industry and Innovation Minister Greg Combet, who was a guest speaker at the conference, said Labor came up with key environmental policies, such as the carbon tax, without input from the Greens anyway.

No need to emphasize it, Combet, we know gillard lied.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 12:04 am
So Combet reckons ALP don’t need the Greens to be stupid, they can be cretinous wrecking retards all by themselves. No help needed.

Well, he would know, wouldn’t he?

WhaleHunt Fun

21 Feb 13 at 12:18 am
MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Don’t you understand? You’re basically mocking yourself here.

SIMON SHARWOOD, REGISTER:

Yeah, I do understand.

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Alright, okay. Terrific.

Oh god.

Did that actually happen in front of other people? I’m literally cringing with embarrasment for him, did the neck bearded loser cry in shame after agreeing with Turnbull that he was a loser?

twostix

21 Feb 13 at 12:29 am
Turnbull can be a smoothe media interviewee.

He was imperiously in charge with Tony Jones last Friday.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 12:33 am
The PM and the Greens haggle: “Famed Negotiating Skills”.

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 12:37 am
Steve from Brisbane: Why do you think that Gina would give Wilders a venue?

There’s nobody in Australia who is more pro-immigration than Gina Rhineheart.

Not all right-wingers are in lockstep on every issue you know. We aren’t the Greens.

Yobbo

21 Feb 13 at 12:52 am
Turnbull can be a smoothe media interviewee.

He was imperiously in charge with Tony Jones last Friday.

After reading the entire transcript he absolutely schooled the useless IT loser journos and bloggers so badly that I actually feel sorry for them.

And yet it is extraordinary you get blog after blog after blog filled with bile, uninformed bilious abuse but nobody goes out, why hasn’t somebody got on the phone and interviewed Mike Galvin who’s doing the BT broadband rollout? Have a chat to him.

No just let me finish. You professed that notwithstanding your extensive journalistic resources in the United Kingdom you don’t know anything about it so I’m just going to give you the facts.

LOL

———-

STAN BEER, IT WIRE:

We’re Australian.

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Good on you, congratulations.

TAN BEER, IT WIRE:

We can’t afford a subscription to them.

MALCOLM TURNBULL:

Well you can’t afford a phone call to the UK either apparently

———–

But I will say this though. In terms of – it would be good though that if, in the indignation that you often write with – you didn’t sort of insult the intelligence of your readers by insinuating that, you know, denying the reality that fibre to the node is much cheaper to deploy than fibre to the premises. You know there is an air of complete barking unreality about some of the commentary.

So I would really encourage you to just sort of – you know, if you want to be taken seriously, if you want to be influential, you cant just keep on confirming the prejudices of a dwindling audience. What you’ve got to do is be prepared to actually prepare examples and provide evidence – I mean, a gentleman over there mentioned Spain and fibre to the premises. I actually know why Spain’s national fibre to the premises rollout is very cost effective. Has any one here ever taken the trouble to find out? No, none of the journalists here have bothered. Haven’t picked up the phone. I have. I will tell you why – it’s quite interesting actually.

He turned a press conference into a stinging rebuke of the competence of the attendant IT loser “journalists”. He was all over his portfolio and they know nothing but what has been slopped out to them by the ALP.

My estimation of the man increased marginally.

twostix

21 Feb 13 at 12:57 am
“Jesse Jackson Jr admits fraud”:

Former US congressman Jesse Jackson Jr, the son of the well-known civil rights leader, has pleaded guilty to misusing $US750,000 ($A728,015) in campaign funds, including by buying himself a gold Rolex watch.

Would this be more widely reported, one may wonder, were he not a Democrat.

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 6:34 am
CL cited interview with Latline’s Snow Cone and The Member for Goldman Sachs

It must get tiring answering the same old questions and dealing with the same idiotic people who have no effing idea and think $40B on Internet is a steal

Dan

21 Feb 13 at 7:52 am
Senator Conroy will not rest, it appears, until black-letter law prevents, in any form or shape, in any organ, forum or venue, criticism of the Australian Labor Party.

James in Melbourne

21 Feb 13 at 7:53 am
Would this be more widely reported, one may wonder, were he not a Democrat.

Senator Bob Menendez is a kiddie fiddler and in the pocket of a multimillionaire who supplies them to him for favours and it has been known about for months with barely a mention in the MSM

Senator Bob Menendez is a Dem

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 7:56 am
James

If you had handballed through a $40/50/80/?? billion blank cheque to what is doubtless the biggest collection of Labor Maaates Consultancies Inc and friendly unions – wouldn’t you want the ability to jail anyone who dared raise their voice in an expression of concern ?

Comrade Conroy is channelling his inner Hugo Chavez.

Myrddin Seren

21 Feb 13 at 8:00 am
Johnno Kerry Gives First Foreign Policy Speech … on Climate Change

“And let’s face it – we are all in this one together. No nation can stand alone. We share nothing so completely as our planet. When we work with others – large and small – to develop and deploy the clean technologies that will power a new world, we’re also helping create new markets and new opportunities for America’s second-to-none innovators and entrepreneurs to succeed in the next great revolution.”

Kerry called for collective action to deal with this problem. “So let’s commit ourselves to doing the smart thing and the right thing and truly commit to tackling this challenge,” he said. “Because if we don’t rise to meet it, rising temperatures and rising sea levels will surely lead to rising costs down the road. If we waste this opportunity, it may be the only thing our generations are remembered for. We need to find the courage to leave a far different legacy.”

“We cannot talk about the unprecedented changes happening on our planet without talking about the unprecedented changes in its population – another great opportunity at our fingertips,” he warned

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 8:00 am
Johnno Kerry: Budget impasse a challenge for US diplomacy

WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State John Kerry says the greatest challenge to U.S. foreign policy is not emerging China or Middle East instability. It’s Congress.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 8:01 am
Wa-Po – Forecasters keep thinking there’s a recovery just around the corner. They’re always wrong.

They say that the essence of futility is to keep doing the same thing while expecting a different result. But is that what key government forecasters are doing in determining their outlook for the economy?

Throughout the halting economic recovery that began in 2009, the formal economic projections released by the Congressional Budget Office, White House Council of Economic Advisers, and Federal Reserve have displayed quite a consistent pattern: This year may be one of sluggish growth, they acknowledge. But stronger growth, of perhaps 3.5 percent, is just around the corner, and will arrive next year.

Consider, for example, the Fed’s projections in November of 2009. Sure, growth would be slow in 2010, they held. But 2011 growth, they expected, would be 3.4 to 4.5 percent, and 2012 would 3.5 to 4.8 percent growth. The actual levels of growth were 2 percent in 2011 and 1.5 percent in 2012.

What’s amazing is that the Fed’s newest projections, released in December of 2012, look like they could have been copy and pasted from 2009, just with the years changed: They forecast sluggish growth in 2013, 2.3 to 3 percent, followed by a pickup to 3 to 3.5 percent in 2014 and 3 to 3.7 percent in 2015.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 8:09 am
“We cannot talk about the unprecedented changes happening on our planet without talking about the unprecedented changes in its population – another great opportunity at our fingertips,” he warned

Given this is wrapped up as ‘a warning’, I am guessing that Kerry’s message is not – what a great opportunity for human development is presented by a rich and bountiful tapestry of emerging humanity – how many Einsteins, who many Curies ??

One dreads to think what the SecState has in mind as the solution at his fingertips to lots of little babies of various shades ?

And in any event, fertility rates are dropping all over the planet – the baby surge is ebbing in all but the most backward shitholes. The long tail of population is ever increasing lifespans and how to care for and support ever-more retirees.

That is truely unprecedented, and solutions so far seem to involve thinks the like UK NHS’s Liverpool Pathway – of topping the frail, ill and elderly asap before they cost too much.

I am reading Kerry, but the fingertips I am seeing are Montgomery Burns’.

Myrddin Seren

21 Feb 13 at 8:10 am
Douglas Murray , “A model of diversity”:

There’s nothing quite like diversity. Take Manchester. It has a large Muslim population and a lot of gays. What could possibly go wrong?

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 8:18 am
Politico – President Obama’s sequestration strategy: Shame

President Barack Obama’s sequester strategy is all about one word: shame.

With the parties at an impasse on stopping across-the-board budget cuts set to hit March 1, the White House is prepping another multimedia, cross-country drive to stoke public outrage against congressional Republicans.

Certain that the political winds are in their favor, they’re forgoing serious negotiations for a high-risk public offensive, banking almost entirely on the president’s ability to persuade. They believe that the GOP will be scared of taking the blame from an angry public — and the White House says this is just the kind of thing that gave them the victory they claimed in the fiscal cliff fight and the most recent standoff over the debt limit.

Wow even the Obummer love media are acknowledging the truth without quite acknowledging that their hero is scum happy to significantly harm the country for perceived political gain

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 8:18 am
No wonder we’re in trouble:

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/forget-gender-wars-were-still-welded-to-jobs-for-boys-and-girls/story-e6frg9jx-1226582210587

OH&S jobs jump 123% from 2006.

Boy on a bike

21 Feb 13 at 8:20 am
He turned a press conference into a stinging rebuke of the competence of the attendant IT loser “journalists”. He was all over his portfolio and they know nothing but what has been slopped out to them by the ALP.

My estimation of the man increased marginally.

The disappointment felt about Turnbull is he has the talent and the knowledge, but not the character.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 8:24 am
” I am reading Kerry, but the fingertips I am seeing are Montgomery Burns’.”

Burns is the only public figure who has inspired me since the passage of Joh and Russ.
Good to see he has other admirers.
But to compare him to Kerry is just plain impolite. Kerry couldn’t win with a gerrymander

WhaleHunt Fun

21 Feb 13 at 8:28 am
Obama & his team seem to be over endowed in conceit & hubris

* WSJ Ed: President Armageddon

* Johnno Kerry Gives First Foreign Policy Speech … on Climate Change

* Johnno Kerry: Budget impasse a challenge for US diplomacy

*Politico – President Obama’s sequestration strategy: Shame

The question is when the American people will crack as this is bad, bad government ignoring critical issues to win petty political points. We know they have a high tolerance level and the vested interests work well to keep the activists passionate.

That said, what they are doing is so incredibly divisive.

People got sick of Rudd eventually, it will happen to the Sun King as well.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 8:31 am
Aussie fuckt-rd alarmist Bill McKibben in USA
today: Building Keystone XL Pipeline Is Folly
Keystone will prolong our addiction to fossil fuels and damage the climate.

A year ago, President Obama sent the Keystone pipeline project back for more review. In the months since, Mother Nature filed compelling public testimony:

The hottest year in American history.
An epic drought that drove up the price of food worldwide.
Superstorm Sandy, with the lowest barometric pressure ever recorded north of Cape Hatteras.
An Arctic melt so intense that NASA scientists said we faced a “planetary emergency.”

Those abrupt and extreme changes in the planet’s patterns demonstrate the stupidity of prolonging our addiction to fossil fuel, which is exactly what Keystone will do.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 8:32 am
The disappointment felt about Turnbull is he has the talent and the knowledge, but not the character.

The interesting thing about what Turnbull has been saying about the NBN is that under the Coalition its going to be pretty similar to what the ALP are doing, with FTTN instead of FTTP. So for people who have decent copper to their local node they probably won’t notice much of a difference between the two. I wonder what sort of cost difference there will be as FTTN was originally considered.

Chris

21 Feb 13 at 8:33 am
Nikki Savva is the week’s must-read for me:

Restoring Rudd might convince punters Labor was righting a wrong, but it will not work if Gillard and her protectors do what he has done and refuse to lie down and die. Rudd’s many enemies in the party are in no mood to forgive his abominable behaviour as prime minister, his ceaseless posturing and – they claim – his leaking and stalking.

There is nothing subtle about Kevin, and his tactics have only made it harder for himself and waverers in caucus. Given a choice between horrible and hopeless, who do you choose? They vow not to reward his treachery, then the growing number of pessimists acknowledge it was treachery that put him and them in this position in the first place.

If Labor is to have any chance at all, there has to be one more political assassination, and it has to be what few of them are – bloodless.

Beautiful in its ugliness.

Tom

21 Feb 13 at 8:34 am
MK50 8:02 pm

I’ve suspected that allahu akbar was something screamed in hysterical terror.

This confirms my suspicion.

kae

21 Feb 13 at 8:45 am
Nikki Savva:

In all of her endeavours, the person who helps her least is Wayne Swan, the man whom she regards as her “political anchor”. Yep, she’s drowning and she’s chained to her anchor.

On Tuesday, the Treasurer showed how feckless he was when he described the financial debacle of the mining tax as “politically inconvenient”. Revenue projections fall billions short, many more billions are tied to a measure that fails to produce the money to fund them and he shrugs it off as “politically inconvenient”. Rather than immersing himself in his portfolio, Swan runs embarrassingly juvenile campaigns against real or imagined opponents as his pals in the union movement pipe in to accuse miners of being robber barons. Never mind the alleged robber barons once inside the bosom of the Australian Workers Union and the Health Services Union. Swan and Gillard pay homage to the AWU as if their lives depended on it, because they do. When Paul Howes proudly declared to Gillard “we’ve got ya back” it could be interpreted two ways – protection and ownership.

Notice how the far left fruitbat SoB was joining in a bit of Gina bashing last night. He truly is the Cat’s Maxwell Swan.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 8:51 am
While opening a new cardiac centre at Luton and Dunstable Hospital in London, Prince Philip was introduced to a Filipino nurse at the hospital, remarking to her: “The Philippines must be half empty – you’re all here running the NHS”.

He’s a badass. Prince don’t give a sh*t about pc.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 8:51 am
SNAP I guess Tom, though I emphasised a different bit of the same excellent article.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 8:53 am
He’s a badass. Prince don’t give a sh*t about pc.

I don’t see his statement as being that bad.

He is highlighting how the NHS is dependent on a foreign people who are willing to work hard while the people of his fallen nation sit on their rotund arses on welfare.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 8:55 am
No, I don’t see it as bad either, Token but the pc jihadists do. Hilarious.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 8:56 am
The interesting thing about what Turnbull has been saying about the NBN is that under the Coalition its going to be pretty similar to what the ALP are doing, with FTTN instead of FTTP.

What else can they do?

You can bet they’ll find the contracts for the NBN will be as wasteful and iron clad as those for the white elephant Desal plants that are bleeding taxpayers across the nation.

They may as eat some of that turkey meat.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 8:57 am
No, I don’t see it as bad either, Token but the pc jihadists do. Hilarious.

‘sactly, the same jihadists that believe you can’t confront the malingers.

Like you I love the way he doesn’t care and says it anyway.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 9:05 am
This is hilarious.

Piggy Howes says the AWU is going to “mobilise thousands” of its members to campaign for the government in marginal seats.

The aim, of course, is to replicate what the US union movement did with Obama.

Howes and McTernan do not appear to see the flaw at the heart of this cunning plan.

The product the US unions had to sell was the Black Jesus. Flawed as his first term may have been – OK, poor – he was still the Dalai Obama, still Young, Cool, Black & HipTM, and dragging the glamorous Michelle and their photogenic sprogs around with him.

The AWU’s product is Julia Eileen Gillard.

James in Melbourne

21 Feb 13 at 9:11 am
You can bet they’ll find the contracts for the NBN will be as wasteful and iron clad as those for the white elephant Desal plants that are bleeding taxpayers across the nation.

They have promised to honor contracts already signed, but they could say they would not sign any new ones and stop the rollout there. In 2010 they claimed that DSL was good enough. They appear to have changed their mind now – which I think is a good thing!

And the libs around here were all enthusiastically pro de-salination plant when we were in the middle of a drought and water restrictions.

Chris

21 Feb 13 at 9:15 am
Piers Akerman has been on fire of late: Gillard, Plibersek try health funding scam

THE Prime Minister pro tem Julia Gillard has been forced to restore a $107 million cut to Victorian hospitals.

Typically, the Gillard government has lied about the action.

In doing so, the disgraceful Tanya Plibersek, one of Gillard’s kitchen coven of men-hating Emily’s Listers, has been further revealed as a failed Health Minister.

Both Gillard and Plibersek attempted to blame the Victorian Liberal government for the federal Labor-Green-Independent minority government’s stuff-up.

But the Victorian government has been supported in its claims that the Gillard government used outdated figures to justify its slashing of the hospital budget.

According to reports in The Herald-Sun, the architect of Medicare John Deeble slammed the federal government’s budget cuts and described the misuse of population figures to justify them as “contentious” and “extraordinary” in a submission to a Senate inquiry.

“They deliver cuts that should be spread over several years in just a single year,” he said.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 9:16 am
from BOAB’s link:

There are 1033 backhoe operators in Australia and all but seven are men.

Abysmal. This gender imbalance must be redressed. Labor to introduce quotas shortly, with a target of 45% women backhoe operators by 2020.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 9:19 am
The AWU’s product is Julia Eileen Gillard.

Ouch. Harsh but fair.

Lloyd

21 Feb 13 at 9:29 am
And the libs around here were all enthusiastically pro de-salination plant when we were in the middle of a drought and water restrictions.

Wow, and were they as keen as you were to unwind the policies that were effective in stopping people from paying organised criminals so they could get round the legal migration system?

I don’t buy it that people believed desal plants were necessary. Like the NBN there was no cost/benefit analysis, the ALP got the contracts in place for their crony capitalist mates under cover of the AGW scam.

Chris Kenny discusses how the public feel about such tactics:

Too many of the commentators, and sadly, too many inside the ALP and the government, think this is all some big game of spin, where you can distract or mislead the public. You can’t. The voters get it. They have had their trust breached, their intelligence insulted, their money wasted and their borders rendered largely academic.

Enough of the pretence – the so-called achievements the government and its apologists point to, such as the National Broadband Network, the National Disability Insurance Scheme, the Gonski education reforms and the carbon tax, are either overly expensive, undelivered, unfunded, unnecessary or all of the above. They are not so much a legacy for Labor but a series of ideas and national policy areas future governments will have to sort out.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 9:33 am
“Piggy Howes says the AWU is going to “mobilise thousands” of its members to campaign for the government in marginal seats.”

It’s not going to work because there isn’t WorkChoices to campaign against. They’ll probably try to claim the Coalition will want to revive it, but I doubt many people are going to buy that.

Jarrah

21 Feb 13 at 9:42 am
Chris prior to the 2007 both the ALP and the coalition’s broadband policies were variations on FTTN.
The NBN with FTTP was a thought bubble cooked up on a plane between Rudd and Combet when their FTTN tender process delivered an outcome they, or more correctly their union masters, didnt like.

So bad policy announced without due process to cover up for yet another Rudd stuff up.

entropy

21 Feb 13 at 9:43 am
There are 1033 backhoe operators in Australia…

And not even one available to dig the dirt on Gillard.
This is the real reason the police are taking so long.

Keith

21 Feb 13 at 9:47 am
Cutting to the chase, this is the reality the community has come to understand:

Enough of the pretence – the so-called achievements the government and its apologists point to, such as the National Broadband Network, the National Disability Insurance Scheme, the Gonski education reforms and the carbon tax, are either overly expensive, undelivered, unfunded, unnecessary or all of the above.

Malcolm Turnbull details the consequence of the stupid approach to the NBN:

Here you’ve got this Coolum industrial park and you’ve got businesses there that have moved out because of inadequate broadband, Telstra’s not investing as they say hey we’re going to get overbuilt shortly so we can’t get a return on our investment. It is not even within the next three year building program and yet you’ve got areas which have got fibre-to-the-premises for heaven’s sake, let alone HFC that are being overbuilt, supposedly, within the next three years.

We’ve turned our telecommunications into a replica of the NHS.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 9:48 am
The Catholic who sez Obummer isn’t anti-catholic and who supports the Obamacare contraceptive and abortifacient mandates, Ej Dionne in the
Washington Post: The best choice for pope? A nun.

In giving up the papacy, Pope Benedict XVI was brave and bold. He did the unexpected for the good of the Catholic Church. And when it selects a new pope next month, the College of Cardinals should be equally brave and bold. It is time to elect a nun as the next pontiff.

Now, I know this hope of mine is the longest of long shots. I have great faith in the Holy Spirit to move papal conclaves, but I would concede that I may be running ahead of the Spirit on this one. Women, after all, are not yet able to become priests, and it is unlikely that traditionalists in the church will suddenly upend the all-male, celibate priesthood, let alone name a woman as the bishop of Rome.

Nonetheless, handing leadership to a woman — and in particular, to a nun — would vastly strengthen Catholicism, help the church solve some of its immediate problems and inspire many who have left the church to look at it with new eyes.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 10:02 am
Maybe Labor should concentrate on the (largely) unattractive team Abbott has behind him: Sophie Mirabella as Shadow Minister for Innovation Industry and Science (bloody hell), the hard to warm to figures of Eric Abetz and George Brandis; annoying twerps Christopher Pyne and Scott Morrison.

Works for me, anyway.

steve from brisbane

21 Feb 13 at 10:08 am
Just been reading Chris Kenny’s blogpost about the AWU conference.

I need someone to confirm something for me.

They don’t seriously sing a song about bosses and downtrodden workers and capital, do they?

In 20-freaking-12?

James in Melbourne

21 Feb 13 at 10:13 am
In 20-freaking-12?

And even 13!

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 10:20 am
They don’t seriously sing a song about bosses and downtrodden workers and capital, do they?

In 20-freaking-12?

I believe it is called Solidarity Forever, written by commie sympathiser Ralph Chalin in 1915 and was/is the Communist Party’s (Australian chapter) song.

Lyrics

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 10:24 am
And even 13!

Ooh, err. For some reason I’ve been doing that on every invoice I send, not a good look. I must move into the real year.

Piggy and Big Bill, on the other hand, must learn to accept that it is not 1912.

James in Melbourne

21 Feb 13 at 10:26 am
Piers Ackerman gets it said :

Let’s just call stupid stupid. By voting Green, an individual self identifies as a fool.

The Greens and Labor could never be amicable during an election campaign as both compete for votes at the idiot end of the political spectrum.

Yesterday’s announcement only highlights the futility of courting the mentally deficient.

Keith

21 Feb 13 at 10:28 am
Michael Smith keeps an eye on the latest in the Craig Thomson investigation:

POLICE have seized documents from an upmarket Sydney hotel and a union-affiliated credit union as they step up investigations into former Labor MP Craig Thomson.

Search warrants were executed on Tuesday at the Westin Hotel in Sydney’s CBD, fraud squad detectives seizing “a number of documents” as part of Operation Vespine, which is investigating claims Mr Thomson used union credit cards to pay for prostitutes and other unauthorised goods.

It is understood the documents include screen shots from hotel CCTV footage shot in 2005.

Just how long do Hotel chains hold onto their CCTV footage?

Cold-Hands

21 Feb 13 at 10:33 am
Piggy and Big Bill, on the other hand, must learn to accept that it is not 1912.

And that neither Arthur Scargill nor Jimmy Hoffa are really terribly good role models for modern unionists.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 10:35 am
And that neither Arthur Scargill nor Jimmy Hoffa are really terribly good role models for modern unionists.

Scargill at least had the awareness to say, on returning from Warsaw in the early 80s, “if that’s socialism, you can keep it.”

James in Melbourne

21 Feb 13 at 10:39 am
A problem with EJ Dionne’s bright idea of electing a nun to be pope is that women can’t be bishops and part of the job description is being Bishop of Rome.

Theoretically, a woman could be a cardinal. But not pope.

EJ Dionne should know this, especially when purporting to write about Catholicism.

David Collard

21 Feb 13 at 10:40 am
The funniest thing you’ll read today…

Taxeating warmist loon:

Feb 9: I am currently equivocating … I am willing to go to prison, I am less sure that I want to terminate my Australian Research Council Future Fellowship, nor my employment as a professor at the University of Canberra … I may postpone action ‘til second half 2014, when my fellowship is coming to an end.

It’s an emergency… but that’s no reason to waste free money.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 10:42 am
I don’t buy it that people believed desal plants were necessary. Like the NBN there was no cost/benefit analysis, the ALP got the contracts in place for their crony capitalist mates under cover of the AGW scam.

Back in 2007 – At the time the ALP was saying no to a desal plant and the liberal opposition were pushing it strongly.

Opposition Leader Martin Hamilton-Smith, after returning from a tour of the Perth plant, said yesterday he was convinced desalination was the “water technology of the future”.

Chris

21 Feb 13 at 10:47 am
Gillard Labor kills another 100 asylum seekers.

Rudd/Gillard death toll: 1100+.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 10:49 am
Defence minister Stephen Smith compares Julia Gillard to Islamic terrorist:

Kevin Rudd will act as Gillard’s human shield, says Stephen Smith.

“There’s no vacancy, and Kevin Rudd has said that if anyone challenges – and no one is out there saying they’re challenging – that he will be a human shield protecting the prime minister,” he said.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 10:52 am
I assume The Daily Mash was covering the AWU conference. The subject of the weekly e-mail was “Arsehole Jamboree”.

harrys on the boat

21 Feb 13 at 10:53 am
Chris prior to the 2007 both the ALP and the coalition’s broadband policies were variations on FTTN.
The NBN with FTTP was a thought bubble cooked up on a plane between Rudd and Combet when their FTTN tender process delivered an outcome they, or more correctly their union masters, didnt like.

I agree that FTTN was the original plan. Though in 2010 the coalition was saying that ADSL is good enough. Perhaps they thought a FTTN vs FTTP argument was too complicated for the public to understand.

My understanding of why they eventually went to FTTP was that given the Telstra monopoly over the copper they would have to pay them a considerable amount of money anyway which would have made FTTN not much cheaper or retain the status quo where Telstra use its monopolistic like powers to screw smaller ISPs.

Anyway I guess we’ll find out just how much cheaper FTTN is. I would guess that many people on VDSL will be able to get 50Mbit-100Mbit with FTTN. Others may have to get their copper replaced anyway because its in such poor condition and so it would likely be replaced with fibre. There’ll then be an extra capital cost down the line when 50Mbit is not fast enough.

Either way it will be nice for people who rely on fast broadband to be able to house hunt without having to draw 1-2km circles around telephone exchanges to see where they can live

Chris

21 Feb 13 at 10:55 am
Piggy Howes says the AWU is going to “mobilise thousands” of its members to campaign for the government in marginal seats.

At the last NSW state election, the unions marched into a number of large companies and declared a “training day”. The staff were herded onto buses and then sent out to marginal electorates to campaign for Labor. And the companies paid their wages for the day.

That’s how unions mobilise.

boy on a bike

21 Feb 13 at 11:04 am
Amusing.

The AFR’s Phil Coorey on the Labor/Greens divorce:

The government … has been suffering politically from its association with the Greens, especially over the carbon tax …

A Greens insider said the party’s internal polling showed it was being dragged down by its association with what was perceived as a dysfunctional government.

Stabilidy meets cerdundy.

Tim Blair.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 11:17 am
Either way it will be nice for people who rely on fast broadband to be able to house hunt without having to draw 1-2km circles around telephone exchanges to see where they can live

Idiotic. Up to that point you almost sounded like you knew something. Except the prior plan involved the private sector doing it economically, without being tied to a particular technological pathway. Oh, and Telstra was never in a monopolistic situation and their customer base was eroding. Prior to NBN, people could go out and purchase high speed broadband if they wanted it. They can still do this now in the certain knowledge that their purchased services will be ripped out probably without forewarning based on an indeterminate and unknown project plan. Now, do you understand how economic activity has been stifled by the dead hand of monopolistic government? No? Never mind.

Keith

21 Feb 13 at 11:22 am
Canada’s a great place, except when they pull shit like this:

The latest transgression in Quebec’s language wars involves an Italian restaurant that serves pasta.

According to restaurant owner Massimo Lecas, the Office Quebecois de la Langue Francaise has determined that pasta is not a French word, and its appearance on a menu without an adequate translation violates Quebec’s Language Charter.

Lecas, the owner of Buonanotte on St. Laurent Blvd., told reporters that his restaurant was visited by an OQLF inspector on Sept. 5, 2012, who told him there had been complaints about the menu.

“In fact they say following complaints. I’m like, complaints, or inspectors going around looking for these things?” said Lecas.

Many items on the menu at Buonanotte have names in Italian, but the descriptions are in French, and this week Lecas learned that is just not good enough to comply with the Charter.

In a letter delivered on Tuesday, the OQLF pointed out a host of infractions from writing ‘bottiglia’ instead of ’bouteille’ on the wine list, listing squid under the word ‘calamari’ and using the Italian word for meatballs.

Lecas took a photo of the letter and posted it to Twitter and Facebook where it generated considerable attention, and the restaurateur pointed out that just about the only Italian word the language inspectors did not find unacceptable was ‘pizza’.

Jarrah

21 Feb 13 at 11:36 am
We now have the idea of a “human minimum wage“

Louis Hissink

21 Feb 13 at 11:39 am
Awesome photo: Benjamin Netanyahu and Marco Rubio bump water bottles in Israel

Heh. The water bottle goes global.

That’s one way (maybe the only way) for Marco Rubio to make sure his visit to Israel gets covered by the Water-gate-happy media. Bumping water bottles with Bibi: total “career-ender.”

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 11:53 am
I learned this morning, seeing a toddler wearing one, that T-shirts spruiking “fair trade” come in very small sizes.

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 11:55 am
My God – the stoopid, it burns!

Warning: Utterly unhinged, unfunny idiocy…

Rabz

21 Feb 13 at 12:02 pm
This newly acquired News Limited crack-smoking zombie “business commentator” deserves an award for dementia:

There are several points that, for the non-rabid, fairly jump out of the past two days’ news cycles. To list them briefly: Labor is not finished; the Greens have done Julia Gillard a favour; Kevin Rudd is looking more mud-spattered than before; and Tony Abbott is in a perilous position vis-a-vis the mining industry.

Tom

21 Feb 13 at 12:03 pm
Pregnant Teen Suing Parents Over Abortion Wins Fight To Keep Child

A pregnant Texas teen who was suing her parents – claiming they were forcing her to have an abortion – has won the fight to keep her child, according to court documents, CNN reported.

A judge granted the 16-year-old girl’s lawyers a long-term injunction against her parents. With the girl 10 weeks pregnant, the injunction will last the remainder of her term, and will allow the girl to use her car for work, school and medical appointments, according to court documents, ABC News reported. The girl had been kept home from school since she refused to have an abortion and had been forced to get two jobs, her lawyers said.

“This is a tremendous victory and another life has been saved,” said Greg Terra, the girl’s lawyer and president of the Texas Center for Defense of Life, a pro-life advocacy group. “Our victory today stands for the principle that ‘choice’ goes both ways. Under Roe v. Wade and post-Roe cases, a teenage girl has the absolute legal right to choose life, even over the strong objections, pressure, and punishments of her parents.”

“We are very proud of our teenage client for being strong enough to stand against her parents to save her unborn child’s life,” he added.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 12:06 pm
Either way it will be nice for people who rely on fast broadband to be able to house hunt without having to draw 1-2km circles around telephone exchanges to see where they can live

Just how much pron and World of Warcraft are you consuming?

If super fast broadband is essential to your existence move to where it is and stop mooching.

Infidel Tiger

21 Feb 13 at 12:07 pm
Tom – this is hilarious (from your spectator lunatic):

But those swing voters who, largely irrationally, hate mining fat-cats will be a weak point in the Abbott defences.

What, all two hundred and fifty of them?

Rabz

21 Feb 13 at 12:13 pm
The dignity unleashed by Roe v. Wade:

Abortion Doc Who Killed Woman Used Horse Biz as Emergency Number.

The abortion practitioner who killed a woman earlier this month in a failed abortion gave women getting late-term abortions the phone number of his horse business as the number to use in case of emergency.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 12:13 pm
In order to raise revenue, China plans to tax emissions of carbon dioxide—as well as water and anything else that makes money somehow—but the awarmists will, as usual, jump up and down in their excitement to read this as an endorsement of our Government’s silly ‘carbon’ tax.

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 12:21 pm
Rabz, that Crikey thing you linked is absolutely nauseating – has a close resemblance to a cup of cold sick. It is a potent reminder of Poe’s Law.

Speaking of Poe’s Law, the academic quoted by BoltA today and cited by a poster above says that coal exports are worse than slavery. Yet, while he imagines that his going to jail might be an effective protest, he thinks it is prudent to wait until his grants have run out.

Worse than slavery, but not as bad as losing his grant. I guess that’s an example of why moral relativism is such a useful concept for the Luvvie Left.

johanna

21 Feb 13 at 12:22 pm
FORMER PM Kevin Rudd says the core of the Labor government’s challenge is dealing with a fractious parliament, and communicating its message.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news#ixzz2LUapPSi6

No, Kevni. It’s all the Labor infighting, the Union control over this government, the futile costly irrelevant polices and the inability to stop spending beyond our means to supply and spending based on forecasts. Basically, Kevni, the problem is Labor values.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 12:27 pm
Greg Gutfeld monologue in repsonse to Chuck Todd’s claim that conservatives are merely paranoid if they see MSM bias:

VIDEO: Denying Media Bias Is “Like Denying Science”

GREG GUTFELD: Nice goatee. Okay, look — denying the media bias at this point has to be like denying science. You’re worse than a flat-earther — you’re a no-earther. Because if you don’t believe in media bias, what else do you believe in? That men once rode dinosaurs? That Bill Maher is edgy? In order to deny media bias, you got to deny studies of voting practices of journalists, which reveal liberal purity; the frothy leftism of the journalistic launching pad that is the leafy campus; the scandals where journalists conspired to smear righties as racist; that journalistic whistle-blowing is always left on right and it’s never the reverse (see Benghazi, as opposed to [Valerie] Plame); the threesome that occurs whenever a lefty shows up on 60 Minutes.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 12:36 pm
boab @ 11.04am

At the last NSW state election, the unions marched into a number of large companies

Piggy does it again

Septimus

21 Feb 13 at 12:42 pm
The staff were herded onto buses and then sent out to marginal electorates to campaign for Labor.

Sometimes we like to exaggerate, but that REALLY is how it operates in North Korea.

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 12:45 pm
Johnno Kerry’s First Speech as Secretary of State: ‘No Longer Anything Foreign About Foreign Policy’

In his first major remarks as America’s top diplomat, secretary of state John Kerry said that he was delivering the address in the United States rather than overseas “to underscore that, in today’s global world, there is no longer anything foreign about foreign policy.” He pointed to the issue of climate change as a key example of a shift in the nature of foreign policy caused by globalization; “No nation can stand alone” on the issue, he said.

Speaking at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Kerry argued that climate change poses a significant foreign-policy challenge to the United States and warned of rising seas, superstorms, and droughts.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 12:50 pm
Chuck Todd of the WH Press Love-in on MSNBC: It’s “Mythology” That MSM Has Anti-Conservative Bias

CHUCK TODD: I think that it’s, I think that the mythology of the big, bad non-conservative media has gotten into some offices, and so that there’s this fear of, oh we can’t do, we can’t do anything that’s not–it’s sort of this–and I feel like it’s a mythology that now younger staffers believe and then it infuses, and then these guys, they actually believe the spin that’s out there, oh, my God, that’s what the mainstream media does, they do anything to disrupt the conservative agenda. And so literally, you only–Lindsey, John McCain, you know, that’s been my, I just fear that it’s sort of like this whole, there’s this whole sort of this, the mythology of this, the media’s out to get conservatives is believed among more and more actual staffers.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 12:53 pm
This newly acquired News Limited crack-smoking zombie “business commentator” deserves an award for dementia:

Please give some warning if you are going to link to Stephen Mayne’s bestie. Burgess is pure mind rot.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 12:56 pm
Why Are We Not Talking About America’s $123 Trillion In Unfunded Liabilities?

Most Americans know that our nation is spending more than it is taking in (the deficit). Though many on the Left do not seem to understand (or care about) the consequences of out of control spending, most Americans do know that the nation has America has over $16.5 trillion in debt–or, nearly $53,000 of debt for every man, woman and child.

While $16.5 trillion of debt is clearly unsustainable, what is even more alarming is what we are not talking about: The fact that, in addition to the $16.5 trillion of debt we currently have, every man, woman, and child in America also is on the hook for nearly $400,000 in unfunded liabilities–or, over $1 million for every household.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 12:57 pm
Just how much pron and World of Warcraft are you consuming?

If super fast broadband is essential to your existence move to where it is and stop mooching.

Hah you don’t need that fast a link to play an MMO like WoW. And you need to distinguish between download quotas and bandwidth.

I did end up just buying a house close enough to an exchange to have a half decent connection. Still, as I work as a programmer from home I will welcome the 100Mbit connection I’ll get from either FTTP (ALP) or FTTN (Libs) at times. Especially when someone asks me to test something and then points me at a gigabyte of data.

Decent (and reliable) bandwidth for many is one of the big blockers for IT people from making it feasible to work from home.

Chris

21 Feb 13 at 1:05 pm
Back in 2007 – At the time the ALP was saying no to a desal plant and the liberal opposition were pushing it strongly

Oh, you meant the tossers in the parliamentary Lib party. Yes, they backed desal plants in many states as part of their panic about the big dry never ending.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 1:08 pm
Piggy’s Army. Not to be confused with Oliver’s Army.

H B Bear

21 Feb 13 at 1:16 pm
Decent (and reliable) bandwidth for many is one of the big blockers for IT people from making it feasible to work from home.

So Chris Pty Ltd needs infrastructure he can’t fund and is just another financially unviable business looking for a subsidy!!

John Mc

21 Feb 13 at 1:20 pm
Yes, they backed desal plants in many states as part of their panic about the big dry never ending.

Yes, they backed desal plants in many states as part of their panic about ~~the big dry never ending~~ the monopoly leftist media attacking them.

TFTFY

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 1:20 pm
A young woman expresses her disappointment with Celtic FC in one the most restrained, dignified videos you’ll ever see (or hear).

Warning: Strong language.

Rabz

21 Feb 13 at 1:43 pm
Sorry, I can’t take anyone seriously—including entire teams—who will mispronounce celtic as seltic.
Once, according to legend, Tom Jones tried to suggest that he and Richard Burton were brothers in arms. “We’re both selts,” Jones insisted. Burton replied, “If I’m a selt then you’re a sunt.”

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 1:55 pm
“If I’m a selt then you’re a sunt.”

Quite so!

Rabz

21 Feb 13 at 1:56 pm
Okay, look — denying the media bias at this point has to be like denying science

.

Well, it’s not like denying science.

It is denying science.

http://archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 2:03 pm
Not to worry – they’ve killed “some” terrorists too.

US senator says 4,700 dead in drone strikes.

A high-ranking US senator has estimated America’s use of drone strikes has killed about 4,700 people, including civilians.

Republican Lindsey Graham is the first US government official to offer an estimate on the total number of fatalities in America’s secretive drone war.

“We’ve killed 4,700,” he was quoted as saying by the Easley Patch, a local website covering the small town of Easley in South Carolina.

“Sometimes you hit innocent people, and I hate that, but we’re at war, and we’ve taken out some very senior members of Al Qaeda,” Mr Graham told the Easley Rotary Club.

Lefties will be marching in the streets about this any day now. You just watch.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 2:13 pm
Chris Kenny receiving much applause for his Geert Wilders piece.

I have a problem with his coward’s “both sides aren’t perfect” stance. Clearly one side gave rise to the other, he needs to make that explicit.

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 2:14 pm
Okay, look — denying the media bias at this point has to be like denying science

Tim Grossclose has documented how issues are reported by the media and compared to voting intentions of the US Senate:

Among his conclusions are (i) all mainstream media outlets have a liberal bias, and (ii) while some supposedly conservative outlets—such as the Washington Times or Fox News Special Report—do lean right, their conservative bias is less than the liberal bias of most mainstream outlets.

Groseclose contends that the general leftward bias of the media has shifted the PQ of the average American by about 20 points on a scale of 100, the difference between (i) the current political views of the average American and (ii) the political views of the average resident of Orange County, California or Salt Lake County, Utah. With Left Turn, readers can easily calculate their own PQ—to decide for themselves if the bias exists. This timely, much-needed study brings fact to this often over-heated debate.

See the summary video at Prager

Token

21 Feb 13 at 2:15 pm
I did end up just buying a house close enough to an exchange to have a half decent connection. Still, as I work as a programmer from home I will welcome the 100Mbit connection I’ll get from either FTTP (ALP) or FTTN (Libs) at times. Especially when someone asks me to test something and then points me at a gigabyte of data.

Decent (and reliable) bandwidth for many is one of the big blockers for IT people from making it feasible to work from home.

You just completely contradicted yourself. “it’s not feasible to work from home”….” I work from home”

If you want fast broadband you should vote for the Libs because they will gut the NBn and allow Telstra back into competition and get thigns rolling. Thats because they want fast broadband as opposed to labor who just want to renationlaise telecoms tomhand over to hir unions. At the current rate of rollout, the average australian will get their fast broadband in 2030, and the average NBn worker will retire with a yacht and a beach house.

brc

21 Feb 13 at 2:20 pm
I have a problem with his coward’s “both sides aren’t perfect” stance. Clearly one side gave rise to the other, he needs to make that explicit.

I see that Bolta has reviewed a speaker list at an upcoming Islamic Conference:

This hypocrisy and fear is exposed best by what is misleadingly called a ”Peace Conference and Exhibition” being organised in Melbourne in March.

…And when you check precisely what a number of the speakers have said, you come up with a picture of Islam remarkably similar to the one Geert Wilders is trying to warn against.

NOTE this post is long. Bolta has a shocking quote from nearly all of the marquie speakers.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 2:22 pm
Yes I did read all of Bolt’s post. What have our feral lefties got planned for that conference?

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 2:31 pm
What have our feral lefties got planned for that conference?

Hmm, let’s see…

The big news is, alhumdulillah, that we have approached the Prime Minister, Miss Julia Gillard, now this word has to be made between us, don’t let it go out, alhumdulillah, she has agreed to be present in the conference …

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 2:43 pm
[Jews are] the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs…

Read history and you will understand that the Jews of yesterday are the evil fathers of the Jews of today, who are evil offspring, infidels, distorters of [others’] words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers… the scum of the human race ‘whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs…’ These are the Jews, an ongoing continuum of deceit, obstinacy, licentiousness, evil, and corruption…

I’d imagine the feral BDS mob, led by Moore and Rhiannon will be there in support.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 2:45 pm
Jews are the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs…

Read history and you will understand that the Jews of yesterday are the evil fathers of the Jews of today, who are evil offspring, infidels, distorters of [others’] words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers… the scum of the human race ‘whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs…’ These are the Jews, an ongoing continuum of deceit, obstinacy, licentiousness, evil, and corruption…

But other than those unfortunate, regrettable, barely noticeable characteristics, they really are wonderful people that we can live in peace with.

C’mon, Jews, you cuddly li’l descendants of apes and pigs, help make palestine a state, you know you want to!

Rabz

21 Feb 13 at 2:52 pm
The best and the brightest:

The Commission heard that the statements of Senior Constable Hill, Constable Lee Walmsley and Constable Mewing contained a number of sections which were “precisely identical”, right down to the punctuation used.

This included the claim that, in response to a direction to turn around so he could be handcuffed, Corey Barker had said: “Get f—– you c—. I’m gun a punch you in the f—— head when I get the chance.”

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 2:55 pm
Hopefully Crikey will send along their own female Muslim reporter so she can tell us all about the wonderful peace Islam will deliver unto us in this, their new land.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 2:55 pm
The PM follows up from her work with Peter Slipper and does her bit to support ~~fight~~ mysogyny:

The big news is, alhumdulillah, that we have approached the Prime Minister, Miss Julia Gillard, now this word has to be made between us, don’t let it go out, alhumdulillah, she has agreed to be present in the conference …

How dare Gert Wilders suggest people with values like this should not be given citizenship!

Another invited speaker is Abu Hamza from Melbourne-based IISNA, who has offered Muslims advice on ”how to beat your wife” to make them “shape up”:

In a lecture titled “The Keys to a Successful Marriage”, … Mr Hamza said men could beat their wives, “to shape them up”…

He also said women “must respond” if their husbands wanted to have sex, and ridiculed laws that prohibit rape within marriage…

In the sermon Mr Hamza initially tells his listeners “don’t hit your wife”.

But he goes on to detail how men should hit their wives, according to his interpretation of Islamic teachings.

He says it is permissible to hit women as a “last resort” but that “the beating the Mohammed showed is like the toothbrush that you use to brush your teeth”.

“You are not allowed to bruise them, you are not allowed to make them bleed…”

Of coures, the tape recording the ABC has from Kayser Trad which they drag out each time a shocking statement like this is made saying that the quote has been taken out of context.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 3:01 pm
Haply, Crikey will also send along a non-muslim female reporter—respectfully dressed, of course, but without any religious head-covering—so she can tell us all about the wonderful peace Islam will deliver, and how Muslims treat non-muslim women at all times with the utmost courtesy.

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 3:06 pm
Deadman – didn’t the US TV stations try that in Egypt? How did that end again?

H B Bear

21 Feb 13 at 3:17 pm
You just completely contradicted yourself. “it’s not feasible to work from home”….” I work from home”

Well duh. I was talking about people who don’t have good broadband access (I made sure I did when buying a house, but that resulted in some odd restrictions on where I could live). For those without good broadband access they have to move in order to work from home. And that’s not exactly a cheap process even if they could find an equivalent house at the same cost they could sell their own.

If you want fast broadband you should vote for the Libs because they will gut the NBn and allow Telstra back into competition and get thigns rolling. Thats because they want fast broadband as opposed to labor who just want to renationlaise telecoms tomhand over to hir unions. At the current rate of rollout, the average australian will get their fast broadband in 2030, and the average NBn worker will retire with a yacht and a beach house.

Telstra running both the core infrastructure and the retail arm has been the main source of competition problems in the first place in the ISP market. It should never have been privatised as a single company, but instead as two companies – one which did core infrastructure, and a retail arm that competes against other retail ISPs/phone companies.

For example there were many reports of customers wanting to use one ISP (that use Telstra wholesale as a backend) and being told that the Telstra wholesale system says they can’t be connected due to line issues. But when they ask Telstra retail for a connection suddenly everything is ok. Of course by then you’re locked into a 2 year contract with Telstra.

From what Turnbull has been saying the NBN will essentially continue – just with FTTN instead of FTTP. Maybe they’ll rename NBNco so they can say they shut it down He has also been claiming it will be quite a while before it can be privatised (much of the work is contracted out to private companies anyway). So as I said earlier, happily it looks like not a whole lot will be different with the Liberal party when it comes to the NBN.

Chris

21 Feb 13 at 3:53 pm
The name “Howes” comes from “howe” (from the Old Norse, haugr), which may mean “mound” or “barrow”; “barrow” can mean “castrated pig”. Paul, of course, derived from the Latin for “little” or “small”.
I’m no believer in nominative determinism, and I’m not suggesting that Paul Howes is a small, castrated pig…

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 3:58 pm
I’m no believer in nominative determinism, and I’m not suggesting that Paul Howes is a small, castrated pig…

That would be very heteronominative of you, were you to do that, deaders…

Rabz

21 Feb 13 at 4:14 pm
I’m not suggesting that Paul Howes is a small, castrated pig…

Why not? He squeals like one.

Tom

21 Feb 13 at 4:25 pm
It would just about be a first for the AWU leadership team if Howes was a ‘castrato’, as opposed to a rampaging bedroom bandicoot.

Myrrdin Seren

21 Feb 13 at 4:31 pm
How do you promote snowboarding in Siberia? Easy!

Tom

21 Feb 13 at 4:35 pm
Misogyny Freedom Fighters aka Useful Idiots

H B Bear

21 Feb 13 at 5:00 pm
He has also been claiming it will be quite a while before it can be privatised (much of the work is contracted out to private companies anyway).

He said last week it will be state owned

Andrew

21 Feb 13 at 5:07 pm
In a letter to Premier Ted Baillieu, Ms Gillard accused Victoria of “a disingenuous and purely political campaign”.

If TLS hates Ted The Useless he can’t be all bad.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 5:33 pm
It would just about be a first for the AWU leadership team if Howes was a ‘castrato’, as opposed to a rampaging bedroom bandicoot.

Farinelli Howes?

Carpe Jugulum

21 Feb 13 at 5:43 pm
This is almost a given, but Larry Pickering’s dripping vitriol kind of sums up the media reportage best – given who we are talking about here:

Affairs of the appendage and front bottom seem commonplace in AWU/ALP circles and Howes seems determined to follow in the footsteps of his predecessor, Bill Shorten.

Myrrdin Seren

21 Feb 13 at 5:51 pm
In “Post-racial America” the losers in victim poker are expressing their anger with violence which is not be universially condemned, rather the perp is treated as a victim:

Dorner’s hate-filled diatribe, which frequently self-references Christopher Dorner as a gossip columnist, revealed him to be incoherent, half-educated, and racist in his stereotyping of Latinos, Asians, and whites. His later crimes reified his abstract hatred: His chief complaint was against his Asian-American lawyer, who, Dorner claims, inadequately pressed his appeal. The first victims of his rage against a supposedly anti-minority police department, then, were the lawyer’s daughter and her mixed-race fiancé.

Dorner was apparently aware that in modern state employment, the charge of racism can be an effective antidote for career disappointment. But he was also clearly frustrated by the race and gender complexity of southern California. He lived in a city that is governed by a Mexican-American mayor and that is one of the largest cities of Mexican nationals in the world. Worse still for Dorner, he was employed by a police department in which he routinely was evaluated by women, many of them apparently lesbian, as well as Latinos, Asians, and whites. The old Rodney King white/black-oppression paradigm had become less resonant, and that disappointment showed in the baffled manner in which Dorner indicted his peers, cooked up supposed racially motivated harassment incidents, lashed out at his rivals, and finally killed innocent people of all races.

He’s not the only man who’s bigotry was reinforced by the crazy social standards of an America where all traditions and norms are being ripped apart:

During his testimony Wednesday, Thandiwe suggested that his reason for even purchasing the gun he used in the shootings was to enforce beliefs he’d developed about white people during his later years as an anthropology major at the University of West Georgia.

“I was trying to prove a point that Europeans had colonized the world, and as a result of that, we see a lot of evil today,” he said. “In terms of slavery, it was something that needed to be answered for. I was trying to spread the message of making white people mend.”

He said the night before the shooting, he attended a so-called “Peace Party” intended to address his concerns about helping the black community find equal footing, but two white people were there.

“I was upset,” Thandiwe said. “I was still upset Friday. I took the gun to work because I was still upset from Thursday night.”

Token

21 Feb 13 at 5:51 pm
From what Turnbull has been saying the NBN will essentially continue – just with FTTN instead of FTTP. Maybe they’ll rename NBNco so they can say they shut it down He has also been claiming it will be quite a while before it can be privatised (much of the work is contracted out to private companies anyway). So as I said earlier, happily it looks like not a whole lot will be different with the Liberal party when it comes to the NBN.

Ooh, how clever chris.

Can you tell us how many homes in Australia, as a per cent of the total, have a completed connection to the NBN?

Keep in mind we’re 2.5 years into the project.

.

21 Feb 13 at 6:02 pm
”Peace Conference and Exhibition” is this century’s version of the Hitler-Stalin Pact. As Hasluck wrote:

When the Soviet Union signed the non-aggression pact with Germany on 23rd August 1939, the Communist Party accepted the view that the “ruling circles of Britain and France” had been trying to “bring Germany and the Soviet Union into a collision”, and the Soviet Union, by concluding the nonaggression pact with Germany, had “frustrated the insidious plans of the provokers of war” and ensured peace between the two largest States of Europe. Henceforward, Britain and France were regarded as war-makers and the German-Soviet treaty as a “barrier against the extension of the imperialist war”.

The Left, as the new Communist Party, likes the ideas of these new demagogues.

stackja

21 Feb 13 at 6:08 pm
I would prefer they remain “faceless men”, if they look like Paul Howes.

David Collard

21 Feb 13 at 6:11 pm
Anotehr successful week for the racist killers of the alpgreenfilth!

339 illegals rocked up to collect welfare bennies and they succeeded in killing another 100 little brown people.

Tubbsy and the Lying Slapper must be so proud.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Feb 13 at 6:15 pm
Poor little Pauly is just cross that he sees his chance to move into federal politics fade before his eyes. He is forever tarred with the Gillard brush. He chose the instrument (Gillard) of his own political demise. Whatever remains of the labor party after the election will never forget this. Pauly will have to start his own party – national sinecured trough dwellers party?

Keith

21 Feb 13 at 6:20 pm
SfB, I see you are out of Rehab on the Religion Thread and back here in force behaving like a snarky little nine year old boy and annoying all the good people here who are trying to converse like grown-ups. I have had a lot of practice in the last few days correcting the political errors of indoctrinated nine-year olds, so watch out. Aunty Lizzie will be after you.

Speaking of Rehab, that is where another errant one in my ambit is now placed, with bail allowed, after a day in court for me and considerable working of the phones. All good and worthwhile.

My nephews and their injured dad (unlike the other, he is not a druggie) are now in a cleaned dwelling with copious loads of washing done by me, including the disgusting sofa covers, mould removed from windows, fresh air let in and carpets shampoo’d, so my trip was worthwhile for that too. As he is finding the cleaning difficult with his injuries I think a regular cleaner is in order and I will see what I can do. I have so much help with my own secure and beautiful children (you won’t hear me mention them much, as you know) that it gives me joy to share my good fortune and help where I can.

Thanks Cats for your support when I do this, and I am no heroine btw. I think Survivor Guilt might cover it. And HIA is the true stalwart.

The bad news is that the outcome of Da Hairy Ape’s ‘retreat’ is an ‘advance’ – he is urgently off to Hong Kong and China tomorrow, so we will be parted still.

Have to hug up big tonight.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

21 Feb 13 at 6:26 pm
Go well, Lizzie. I would love you one day to tell us about your kids — perhaps after the Cat is fumigated to get rid of the predator. I’m sure, even when you hsve him on remote control, HIA will continue to supply you with rich storylines. Keep writing. It’s good for you — and those around you.

Tom

21 Feb 13 at 6:49 pm
Welcome back, Lizzie!

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 6:49 pm
Gillard spotted jogging, downing an energy drink.

Rudiau

21 Feb 13 at 6:52 pm
Good job done, Lizzie. Beautiful soul that you are, your Sainted Mother would be proud.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 6:52 pm
Wow.

Paul Howes ‘pricks’ comment was really stupid.

Going on Lateline the night before Kevin Rudd was formally ousted was dumb as well.

There’s beginning to be a real pattern of stupidity not least seeing lotsa wookers‘s union reps housed in jupier’s gold coast for a week of piss and venom.

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 7:09 pm
Jupiter’s Gold Coast

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 7:10 pm
One of the Liberty Quotes featured Penny Wrong.
Where is Penny Wrong? Her ‘wife’ baby’s keeping her busy?

stackja

21 Feb 13 at 7:19 pm
Not married. Not wife. Partner, surely is the proper apellation?
Or am I out of date?

WhaleHunt Fun

21 Feb 13 at 7:37 pm
Nothing to hide about my kids, Tom. I am like many here and just don’t mention them much, to respect their privacy. I had them young, my ex and I share their care (works well and gives everyone a bit of time off), HIA is a great step-dad, and we all fall over backwards to try and make their lives stable and good. Private schools help and so does financial freedom.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

21 Feb 13 at 7:46 pm
WhaleHunt, I always think ‘partner’ sounds a bit like a business arrangement. I sympathise with gay people who would like another term, perhaps they could use S.O. – Significant Other. Much nicer than partner.

‘Spouse’ is old-fashioned, but I like it, and I stick to ‘husband’ and ‘wife’ too.

Just an old-fashioned girl.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

21 Feb 13 at 7:54 pm
Recall the other day was asking for more civility.

Here’s the piece of shit acting all civil.

(Pedro is one of the more pleasant people here.)

Pedro is just a troll from Catallaxy, and should be given no more credence as most of the commentators in the threads over there – ie, very little.

I’ve personally just spent the last couple of days trying to explain to them some fairly basic economics – such as the difference between a cost and a transfer (in the context of a debate about the carbon tax) – and it is evident that few if any of the usual suspects on the Cat have gotten as far as Econ 101, and that those who do actually understand some economics are alas so ideologically driven that they cannot bring themselves to use it properly when it yields points that differ from their simplistic Libertarian nostrums, or contradict “arguments” they have used in support of those nostrums.

Braggs, I know you’re reading this. The pain of getting plastered to the wall each time you show up here must make you really hurt.

You cowardly turd, Braggs.

Jc

21 Feb 13 at 8:05 pm
Should Read.

Recall the other day Braggs was asking for more civility.

Jc

21 Feb 13 at 8:07 pm
your Sainted Mother would be proud.

Well, she would certainly have had ‘words’ to say about everything, Gab. She’s up there somewhere with the spirits she used to commune with, and perhaps they are wishing she had stayed on earth a little longer where they had a turn-down switch for her.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

21 Feb 13 at 8:07 pm
I know Qld is an hour behind but I just saw the ABC news report about Paul Howes speech to the AWU conference where the fuckwit complained about MP’s “underminding” the TLS.

WTF is underminding?

Dumb fuck should have stayed at school and flicked Cuba

Tiny Dancer

21 Feb 13 at 8:08 pm
Wow great architecture.

http://www.freshpalace.com/2013/01/27/house-m-in-meran-italy-by-monovolume-architecture-design

Jc

21 Feb 13 at 8:11 pm
Howes also mentioned people being “gutless”.
Where’s that threat to close down union support for the Carbon Tax if one job was lost?

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 8:11 pm
underminding ? Is he complaining about McTernan ?

Keith

21 Feb 13 at 8:12 pm
QLD only one hour behind now? Used to be 20 years.

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 8:13 pm
“underminding”. what a scholar. Must’ve gone to the same school as gillard.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 8:13 pm
After Cuba he’s hyperbowling for Australia – well, at least for the AWU and ALP.

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 8:15 pm
So funny, Tiny. Bolt and Price just played the grab. He actually said “underminding”. Then he called the Lying Whore’s enemies “gutless fucks”. Real high class individuals we’re dealing with here. I just can’t wait for election night and I hope the prick is in Canberra, where I plan to be to tell the kleptocracy how muich I love them.

Tom

21 Feb 13 at 8:19 pm
Gab and blogstrop, they’re just towing the line.

johanna

21 Feb 13 at 8:20 pm
Paul Howes must be copping some flack from his mates, about putting Ms Gillard, first woman PM, in the top job in the first place and it’s not working out as well as planned yet.
He sounds stressed.

candy

21 Feb 13 at 8:22 pm
Must be that new language Labor MPs speak. High dungeon. (Different to Kevni’s high Mandarin)

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 8:22 pm
Some comments from Bolt’s post on the Islamic conference that won’t raise anything like the objections that the Widers-beast did from the luvvie left:
Will Gillard wear a burqa to the conference? Under sharia law, she probably should.
Glenys (Reply)Thu 21 Feb 13 (01:07pm)
Steve replied to Glenys
Thu 21 Feb 13 (01:59pm)
Oh please please please love to see her do that.
Chunks replied to Glenys
Thu 21 Feb 13 (02:06pm)
At the very least she’ll wear a head scarf to avoid offending any men who might get ideas otherwise. Feminism is the first thing overboard when the Left gets down on its knees to Islam.
frank of malvern replied to Glenys
Thu 21 Feb 13 (02:06pm)
And then give a speech warning about misonygists and sexism.
I’d like to see that!!!
Andy replied to Glenys
Thu 21 Feb 13 (03:22pm)
Why would a self confessed atheist such as Gillard be attending any religious gathering ?
Scott replied to Glenys
Thu 21 Feb 13 (03:33pm)
OK, OK, maybe we shouldn’t ban the burqua after all. I see merit in it use on this occasion…

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 8:23 pm
If we want to pick on Howes for grammar, last night he said ‘divisive’ as ‘divvissive’ rhyming with missive instead of divisive rhyming with vice-sieve.

Don’t know if it’s one of thoe baarth / bath tomarto / tomato things, but I’ve never heard it like that.

brc

21 Feb 13 at 8:24 pm
the difference between a cost and a transfer (in the context of a debate about the carbon tax) – and it is evident that few if any of the usual suspects on the Cat have gotten as far as Econ 101

A cost to me is a transfer to a moocher and rent seeker like Braggs

The impact of a cost is to increase prices, reduce sales, reduce standards of living, reduce profitability, reduce investment, reduce innovation, reduce future employment growth, reduce standard of living, provide fewer and less varied employment opportunities, reduce standards of living, reduce taxation receipts, reduce standards of living, or some combination of all of the above.

a transfer increases the standard of living for moochers and rent seekers.

Will

21 Feb 13 at 8:24 pm
WhaleHunt Fun 21 Feb 13 at 7:37 pm
‘wife’ was poor attempt at sarcasm.

stackja

21 Feb 13 at 8:24 pm
Think it has been posted a few times, but Joe Hildebrand’s anti-Greens musings is very poignant and calmly delivered:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/popcorn_oclock/

Infidel Tiger

21 Feb 13 at 8:25 pm
I don’t know why you’re all cheering at Howes being sweaty under the collar. He will still end up in the Federal ALP, we’ve got probably two decades left of listening to this little modern day Che.

brc

21 Feb 13 at 8:25 pm
Apart from the above sample (I couldn’t go on reading) the Bolt comments section looks like it remains mainly a toilet for trolls.

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 8:30 pm
Gab @ 8.22

Wallah!

blogstrop – after the painful Crikey report about the Wilders event (felt threatened although nothing at all happened, unlike to people trying to enter) – I wonder what would happen if a few chaps wearing the yarmulke went to this Islamic event?

Will obviously licentious women with uncovered heads be allowed in? I mean, all that uncovered meat …

johanna

21 Feb 13 at 8:31 pm
You cowardly turd, Braggs.

That’s “Psychiatrist Dr William Bragg BEc M Ec BSc (Hons) MBBS Ph D” to you, JC.

.

21 Feb 13 at 8:34 pm
If the Lying Slapper does not wear a headscarf, then obviously (according to catmeat hilaly) the inevitable pack rape is by sharia-loving muslim males who are blameless. Its all her fault.

Which says something about catmeat hilaly in particular and sharia savages in general, really.

Mk50 of Brisbane

21 Feb 13 at 8:37 pm
JC

Wow great architecture

Beautiful yet a little ” sterile ” for my taste.
One of my favourite shows is Grand Designs where most projects fuse old traditional with modern.
The presenter Kevin McCloud is a bit latte set but the ideas and passion of most of the owners* is a good watch.

*( sometimes the cameras capture the exact moment the owner realises ” fuck, I’m in over my head “)

jumpnmcar

21 Feb 13 at 8:44 pm
No wonder Piggy is starting to lose it. He is thinking about the Royal Commission.

H B Bear

21 Feb 13 at 8:52 pm
Gillard Labor kills another 100 asylum seekers.

Rudd/Gillard death toll: 1100+.

I read about a group of asylum-seekers from Burma being found by the Malaysian authorities. I think it was about two weeks ago. The Malaysians didn’t allow them to land, gave them some food and water and sent them on their way towards Indonesia, bound for Australia.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 8:56 pm
jump, you sadden me. A great drinking game (if you want to get drunk in an hour) is to have a shot every time that wanker McCloud says ‘sustainable’ or ‘environmentally friendly’ in the space of one program.

A particularly dishonest aspect of the program is the ‘revisited’ series, where they go back to selected sites and everyone agrees with everyone else about how fabulous it all is, and their family has been strengthened by having 800,000 quid to spend on their dream house.

It’s the ones they choose not to revisit that would make an interesting series.

johanna

21 Feb 13 at 8:57 pm
That’s “Psychiatrist Dr William Bragg BEc M Ec BSc (Hons) MBBS Ph D” to you, JC.

No it’s Dr W. Bragg – Rocket Surgeon, TLC, SFA(hons), Masters NFI.

Carpe Jugulum

21 Feb 13 at 8:58 pm
Lars Hedegaard, the Danish journalist who narrowly avoided assassination tells his story in the WSJ.

His personal telling is harrowing.

A former Marxist, he’s now considered to be on the far right even though his position on free speech and women’s equality have not changed

WSJ: The Assassin at the Door
A Danish free-speech advocate on the day a gunman disguised as a postal worker tried to kill him.

Shortly after 11 a.m., I was preparing to leave my apartment for the half-hour commute to my newspaper office in Malmo, Sweden, when the door-phone buzzed. The phone doesn’t work properly—I can hear that I have visitors but not communicate with them. Nor can I buzz them in.

I opened a window in my apartment to see who was down below at the front door. A man dressed in a red jacket with the logo of the Danish postal service was waiting at the door. He said he had a package for me. I answered that I couldn’t buzz open the door and would instead come downstairs to get the package.

I went down and opened the front door. The man repeated that he had a package, which he handed to me. As I held the package (which the police later determined was empty), he immediately pulled out a gun and fired at my head.

Between my taking the package and the shot there was less than a second, so I had no inkling of what was going on.

The distance between us must have been less than a yard. Nevertheless, he missed. He then proceeded to fumble with the gun in order to cock it for a second shot. I swung my right fist at his head, and my action confused him sufficiently for him to drop the gun. After a scuffle, he recovered the gun but couldn’t make it fire. He then fled…….

Unfortunately, the attempt on my life is one in a wave of political assassinations or attempted assassinations that has swept Europe since Ayatollah Khomeini issued his so-called fatwa against Salman Rushdie in 1989. Some have been killed—among them the Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn and Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh. Others, like writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali, have been forced to flee Europe or go into hiding.

I am determined not to be silenced, come what may. I refuse to live in a world ruled by the gun.

RTWT

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 8:58 pm
I always think ‘partner’ sounds a bit like a business arrangement.

I prefer leman. The word’s’s older than Chaucer (who uses the word), and evolved from leofman, which derived from Old English lêof, “dear” or “beloved” + man, “person”.

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 9:00 pm
You cowardly turd, Braggs.

That’s “Psychiatrist Dr William Bragg BEc M Ec BSc (Hons) MBBS Ph D” to you, JC.

The funny thing is Dot that he’s such a pompous ignoramus, in other words a leftwing moron and general douchebag.

Jc

21 Feb 13 at 9:08 pm
I swung my right fist at his head, and my action confused him sufficiently for him to drop the gun. After a scuffle, he recovered the gun but couldn’t make it fire. He then fled…….

You always hope you have the presence of mind or reflexes to take a swing at these bastards. Well done Lars. Pity about your namesake Connie, who the ABC just love for the purpose of incantation whenever climate matters come up … “Connie Hedegaard, Connie Hedegaard …”

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 9:31 pm
we’ve got probably two decades left of listening to this little modern day Che

Yeah. Someone should buy him a motorbike … but not a helmet.

Septimus

21 Feb 13 at 9:35 pm
Did Obama supporter vote 6 times in 2012? Ohio poll worker target of investigation

The Obama/Biden lawn sign remains proudly planted in front of Melowese Richardson’s Cincinnati home, three months after the presidential election.

It seems that President Obama has an especially ardent supporter in the veteran Ohio poll worker.

Richardson told a local television station this month that she voted twice last November. She cast an absentee ballot and then voted at the polls as well.

“Yes, I voted twice,” Richardson told WCPO-TV. “I, after registering thousands of people, certainly wanted my vote to count, so I voted. I voted at the polls.”

Authorities also are investigating if she voted in the names of four other people, too, for a total of six votes in the 2012 presidential election.

“I’ll fight it for Mr. Obama and for Mr. Obama’s right to sit as president of the United States,” Richardson vowed when asked about the voter fraud investigation that is now under way.

Richardson is one of 19 people suspected of illegal voting by the Hamilton County Board of Elections in the last election

Of course demanding voter Photo ID requirements is unfair and too hard on blacks and is therefore waaacist

JamesK

21 Feb 13 at 9:37 pm
One of my favourite shows is Grand Designs where most projects fuse old traditional with modern.

Love that show. Last week’s renovation of a jetty/boat slide/shed was quite amazing. That was one crazy (and rich) Irishman.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 9:40 pm
Our future, if the greenies have their way. In the UK:

power station closures could mean a 10% fall in capacity by April alone

And why? Well, because new power stations have been postponed indefinitely for many years; and more specifically because functioning coal-fired power stations have to be shut down to comply with EU directives about CO2 emissions.

Gillard is promoting the same suicidal strategy here.

It is gobsmacking to watch nations commit hara-kiri like this.

One only hopes the sluggish British public will wake up when the heat and light stops working in the middle of next winter.

At least not many factories will be inconvenienced, as most have gone already, and the rest are eyeing the exits.

It’s like watching the last days of the Jim Jones cult, or a slow-mo train crash. Surreal. Bizarre. The dopey government is still saying that windmills and solar panels (subsidised) are the way forward, as they head for the cliff.

johanna

21 Feb 13 at 9:41 pm
Hey, watching Fast Forward repeat right now and Magda Szubanski appears in the hospital soap skit as “Sister Daktari” and she’s got her face painted brown and a slave style hair-do. Asked where she’s from she has “Hobart”.

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 9:45 pm
she says “Hobart”

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 9:46 pm
London now a black majority city:

White Britons are now in minority in the capital.

620,000 white Englishmen have left the city in 10 years.

C.L.

21 Feb 13 at 9:48 pm
Hey, let’s all go work for those lovable, mendacious misanthracists, Anna Rose and Simon Sheikh, who love to “tackle” the non-problem of “climate change”. See “Join me in a bigger dream for 2013?”

As climate activist [and recognised gibbering lunatic] Bill McKibben says, the only thing a morally awake person can do when faced with a situation as important and urgent as climate change is do everything we can to change the odds [or, even better, first determine whether climate change be a problem or just a well-funded scam from self-serving activists]. […]
Running for Senate is a big commitment for Simon and I [sic]. We’re putting all of our time, talents, savings, and our hearts and soul into this. We’re doing it for the same reason I’m asking you to consider joining us: because what’s at stake is too important not to try.
The threat Abbott poses to action on climate change, to any chance of stopping coal exports through Government regulation, to tackling global poverty through increasing (or even maintaining!) the foreign aid budget, to women’s rights, to compassion for asylum seekers and to all the progressive values that we share is Just. So. Big. [sic, sic, sic] that I know this Senate campaign is the most strategic thing to work on this year. […]
So Simon and I are asking something big of you, but with the promise of something in return. We’ll make sure you have free accommodation (if you’re from Canberra, pay your rent and if you’re from interstate, find you a place to stay for free) and food for the entire duration of the campaign. You won’t get rich, but you won’t deplete your savings either. And you’ll get to be an inside part of a campaign that has a chance of making history by stopping Abbott seizing control of the Senate.

Yes, we must “tackle” global poverty by first ensuring that poor foreigners have no access to cheap electricity!
If Tony Abbott gain control of the Senate he might undo all the wonderful work over the last five years which has made the current Government an exemplar of competence and prudent governance!
Come on, people, we must help!

Deadman

21 Feb 13 at 9:49 pm
Agree IT. Joe Hildebeaste was subtle and nuanced for once. A delight to see.

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 9:50 pm
…Magda Szubanski appears in the hospital soap skit as “Sister Daktari” and she’s got her face painted brown and a slave style hair-do.

Harold, really. Its different when they do it.

Magda is a winner in victim poker. Obese lesbian lefty luvvie. To top it off watch and you’ll see go the full leftard on anyone else who does the same.

Token

21 Feb 13 at 9:52 pm
Fast Forward. Those were the days, and Tim & Debbie. We used to get some good satire once, instead of the infantile puke of The Chaser.

blogstrop

21 Feb 13 at 9:53 pm
I like the show, liked The D-Generation too. Wish they would have more balls and stand up against PC crap now. Instead they’ve become promoters of it.

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 9:56 pm
Steve Vizard and Gina Riley singing “Unforgettable”, both blacked up!

Harold

21 Feb 13 at 10:03 pm
620,000 white Englishmen have left the city in 10 years.

They all in live in Perth.

Infidel Tiger

21 Feb 13 at 10:05 pm
They all in live in ~~Perth~~ Rock’n'am or Joondalup.

H B Bear

21 Feb 13 at 10:12 pm
Agree IT. Joe Hildebeaste was subtle and nuanced for once. A delight to see.

There was another spray by Hildebrand later on in last nights Paul Murray which was directed at Labor. It was even better.

Splatacrobat

21 Feb 13 at 10:17 pm
Just opened up a new open forum.

Sinclair Davidson

21 Feb 13 at 10:18 pm
pourquoi, Sinclair? Tis only Thursday.

Gab

21 Feb 13 at 10:23 pm

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