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Tim Wilson: Human Rights Commission missing in action

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Their submission to the Senate Inquiry is here (pdf).

Written by Sinclair Davidson

February 22nd, 2013 at 9:58 am

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Tim, as usual, belted the crap out of that Hubris Rich @unt and poor little Jes-See-Car had absolutely no idea what it’s all about.

amcoz

22 Feb 13 at 10:14 am
This so-called right to free speech is NOT a human right, it’s just a claimed “right” by far right racists to vilify minorities in our community. As the Commissioner says, it’s only peessure groups that have complained about the proposed law change. Their were only 4 complaints last year about so-called free speech as against thousands on vile discrimination. Of course the HRC is giving priority to the vast weight of the real evils in our society. The right must be silenced. Wilders should never have been given a visa to spread his filth here.

hammygar

22 Feb 13 at 10:20 am
Can I just ask this question: ‘Does Australia really need the Human Rights Commission?’

James Barlow

22 Feb 13 at 10:24 am
The right must be silenced. Wilders should never have been given a visa to spread his filth here.

Hahaha, honestly I think you are just a parody or a ‘fake troll’. Nobody is this dumb and hypocritical.

On the other hand…

MattR

22 Feb 13 at 10:26 am
Hammy, my guess is the only reason why there were only 4 complaints last year is because most dinky-die Ozzies take the piss out of each other every day and don’t think anymore of it – that’s the way ‘we woz bort up’, mate.

As distinct from those that came here from god-knows-where, who don’t know the difference between a ridiculous statement and a presumed insult; which is the real Ozzie way putting down clowns like you.

amcoz

22 Feb 13 at 10:30 am
it’s just a claimed “right” by far right racists to vilify minorities in our community.

I think they should have the right to have racist views.

Andrew

22 Feb 13 at 10:30 am
Way to go, Tim.

Isn’t it ironic that the Fink has been out there defending the tanking Melbourne Football Club?

Judith Sloan

22 Feb 13 at 10:31 am
Isn’t it ironic that the Fink has been out there defending the tanking Melbourne Football Club?

The incident where the AFL found Melbourne not guilty of tanking yet fined a club half a million dollars and suspended two coaches? Only the Fink could orchestrate something like that.

Andrew

22 Feb 13 at 10:35 am
Tim Wilson surrounded by aggressive and passive aggressive Emily’s Listers was brilliant.

JamesK

22 Feb 13 at 10:37 am
The HRC woman desperately tried to talk herself out of the fact that the Commission did absolutely nothing in their Senate submission. Nothing! Shame on her and shame on the the HRC. What an apalling performance.

As for Ms Irvine, omg, she thinks that because there are more outlets to express yourself, then that must equate with more freedom about what is expressed!

Truly, Ms Irvine is clueless. Seriously thick. How is she National Economics Editor for News Ltd? What really is going on?

James of the Glens

22 Feb 13 at 10:41 am
This so-called right to free speech is NOT a human right

It’s always good when leftists expose their true colours. It doesn’t happen often enough; they even try to distance themselves from the term ‘socialism’ these days.

Well done Hammy on honestly and openly clarifying what a detestable git with revolting ethics that you are.

John Mc

22 Feb 13 at 10:43 am
This so-called right to free speech is NOT a human right, it’s just a claimed “right”

Thus spoke the advocate for an ideology based around opression.

The right must be silenced. Wilders should never have been given a visa to spread his filth here.

Seeing there is an arbitary list of names being created.

It is time Gareth Hamilton was ejected from this country. Let’s put it to a vote and if the majority (50.0001%) agrees, he will have no right to dispute the findings as per his standard, he can not object there is no right to free speech.

Token

22 Feb 13 at 10:44 am
Isn’t it ironic that the Fink has been out there defending the tanking Melbourne Football Club?

Didn’t Fink read between the lines and look at the tone of the Melbourne Football Club? It screams the need for judicial intervention.

Token

22 Feb 13 at 10:45 am
Why did the ABC invite the blonde ecomonist?

She didn’t know the subject matter and did not contribute to the discussion in any way.

Token

22 Feb 13 at 10:47 am
Why did the ABC invite the blonde ecomonist?

She not an economist.

She’s not really even a batchelorette political economist.

She’s a batchelorette of Syd Uni Political Economics – which is something else again.

JamesK

22 Feb 13 at 10:50 am
Sorry JamesK, I was using the Bunyip’s name for her. I’ll return to referring to her as the “Economics in Society” graduate.

Token

22 Feb 13 at 10:52 am
Good case for abolishing HREOC – another savings for the Coalition.

Judith Sloan

22 Feb 13 at 10:58 am
Good case for abolishing HREOC – another savings for the Coalition.

The incessant whining, shrieking and exploding heads will be an added bonus…

Rabz

22 Feb 13 at 11:04 am
How lovely to see our pet far-left racist Hammy in full-throated agreement with the National Socialist German Worker’s Party policies on freedom of speech.

Aah, hammy. He dreams of death camps…

He, Ball Bagg and Brave Sir Numbers have all proudly hoisted their totalitarian and racist colours and loudly proclaimed their totalitarianism, racist views and ardent desire for a police state this morning.

Did someone put truth serum in their morning cup of tea?

Mk50 of Brisbane

22 Feb 13 at 11:04 am
Again, once again, Jessica Irvine is wrong, this time on the preparedness of the “average person on the street” to speak about whatever they like to whomever they like.

One knows that Irvine is wrong because, indeed, the stifling effects of political correctness is a common bugbear expressed by Mr or Mrs Joe Average.

Julie Novak

22 Feb 13 at 11:04 am
Rabz, you mean like this?

Mk50 of Brisbane

22 Feb 13 at 11:05 am
JS; As soon as TA, who is a Happy Erstwhile Real Optimist, gets rid of HREOC, ‘we, the people’ will call him a HERO.

amcoz

22 Feb 13 at 11:19 am
One knows that Irvine is wrong because, indeed, the stifling effects of political correctness is a common bugbear expressed by Mr or Mrs Joe Average.

I posted this article on the OT yesterday by Victor Davis Hanson where he notes what he called the “Tangled Web of Race” feeds anger and resentment from losers in the arbitary hierarchy.

Free speech is better as it natuarally fairer (to use that open ended value statement loved by the left).

Token

22 Feb 13 at 11:21 am
Indeed, Mk. We could compile a youtube highlights video…

Rabz

22 Feb 13 at 11:21 am
[free speech] just a claimed “right” by far right racists

Really? That at least suggests that to be “far right” is not necessarily racist, or is that just a redundancy?
Anyway, hammygar, you (and many others) keep using this term “far right” which seems to have a diversity of meaning and, often (as far as I can determine), it can mean “authoritarian” or “fascist” or just “wicked”; would you please define how you use the term.

Deadman

22 Feb 13 at 11:22 am
I am currently working on the right to be free from violence

Fuck me, she said it with a straight face as well. What exactly is she doing, dressing up very night and administering HRC vigilante justice on would-be violent perpetrators?

What a depressing snippet into the battle we face.

FYI vaguely mentioning that we have decent free speech and using an example of an individual who was barred from speaking in one state by a gloating liberal premier is not protecting free speech. Free speech is being protected (so far) despite the HRC not because of it.

Adam Diver

22 Feb 13 at 11:24 am
Geez the HRC chic was aggro. i’m only surprised she didn’t tell Tim to ‘shut up’.

Gab

22 Feb 13 at 11:30 am
The antidiscrimination legislation itself is probably the biggest limitation on freedom of speech, offense provisions or not.

It’s not just about the offense provision, although that is such an overstep that it’s easily attack.

The core issue is the reservation of the responsibility for discrimination by the government to the governmnent; the change from being equal under the law to being made equal by the law.

DriftForge

22 Feb 13 at 11:35 am
I am currently working on the right to be free from violence

Must be in concert with those drones gillard is wanting to buy.

Gab

22 Feb 13 at 11:52 am
… would you please define how you use the term.

As a description of anyone who disagrees with him.

Rabz

22 Feb 13 at 11:52 am
I am currently working on the right to be free from violence

And I’m currently working on the right to be free from fuckwits.

It’s a long, arduous struggle.

Rabz

22 Feb 13 at 11:53 am
Jessica. Oh dear. Not one for the highlight reel.

Rousie

22 Feb 13 at 12:21 pm
Well done Tim and IPA. What gets me is Ms AHRC claiming to know what Australians think about Wilders. And why did it take Wilders so long to get a visa whereas and any Mo, Ahmed and Hilaly get one in record time? Not only should the AHRC be abolished, that woman should not hold any public position at all. Disgraceful stuff from the AHRC.

I can’t say anything about Jessica without expletives, sorry.

CC

22 Feb 13 at 12:41 pm
Geez the HRC chic was aggro. i’m only surprised she didn’t tell Tim to ‘shut up’.

She wanted to, but their ABC had her back with the interjecting. Tim was right to underline HREOCs silence on the proposed stifling of freedom of speech. Disappointing that the presumption of guilt included in the proposal wasn’t addressed, but the interjecting by Miss Turbine probably stopped the argument progressing to there. I guess by their silence HREOC is okay with that too.

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And I’m currently working on the right to be free from fuckwits.

Now, that’s ambitious!

Keith

22 Feb 13 at 12:51 pm
Now, that’s ambitious!

It’s a life long project, Keith…

Rabz

22 Feb 13 at 12:53 pm
Indeed it is.
Zero tolerance – it’s the only way.

Keith

22 Feb 13 at 12:58 pm
Tim was right to underline HREOCs silence on the proposed stifling of freedom of speech. Disappointing that the presumption of guilt included in the proposal wasn’t addressed, but the interjecting by Miss Turbine probably stopped the argument progressing to there. I guess by their silence HREOC is okay with that too.

Absolutely, the HRC is 100% behind it all. The HRC does not stand for free speech unless it is from a minority.

George Galloway walks out of a debate at Christ Church college at Oxford University on Wednesday. He was speaking for the motion that ‘Israel should withdraw immediately from the West Bank’. When the Respect MP for Bradford West learned that Eylon Aslan-Levy, a student opposing it, was an Israeli citizen, he leaves, saying ’I don’t debate with Israelis‘.

Pity this didn’t happen here. Under the discrimination laws, Galloway would be sunk had someone taken offense to his racist Nazi-like comment.

Gab

22 Feb 13 at 1:01 pm
@IPA

Just had a campaign idea (maybe not needed now).

Illustrate some examples from the past of famous icons who would have fallen foul of these laws.

Say for example, Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, Martin Luther King etc. Find a speech/writing where they would have offended on political grounds and provide the ticked boxes which show they would have qualified for a HRC whooping.

Harold

22 Feb 13 at 1:43 pm
So Hammy I take it you were a voice of outrage 10 years ago when all those leftist academics/artists and journalists were denoucing the Howard government for its ‘attack’ on freedom of speech.

Oh and just where do human rights come from if they are ‘claimed’? Do you think they exist in a state of nature, or maybe you believe they are handed down from god? They are all merely the claims of mankind hammy.

Since when did the human rights commission have ambit to start conducting police operations? re; the right to live free from violence.

Luke

22 Feb 13 at 3:07 pm
One knows that Irvine is wrong because

No need to add the word ‘because’ to that statement.

‘One knows that Irvine is wrong’ is sufficent.

The only thing that remains a mystery is why News Corp employers her. Anyone from the Cat could write better stuff than she does, and we would do it for less money.

johno

22 Feb 13 at 3:19 pm
I am currently working on the right to be free from violence

Maybe she’s getting some target practice in at the local shooting club.

Ellen of Tasmania

22 Feb 13 at 4:08 pm
Those women make my blood boil. They really do. I hope the HRC is abolished and everyone who works there permanently banned from government work. Put up the Freedom Commission in its place. Get some actual conservatives/libertarians to run it.

James

22 Feb 13 at 4:43 pm
I am currently working on the right to be free from violence

Don’t we already have that “right”? Don’t we already have laws to cover this? What will the oxymoronic HRC be inventing next? Ban all weaponry in Australia, save for the military and police? Yeah, that’ll stop the crims.

Gab

22 Feb 13 at 4:59 pm
I’m sick of hearing about the right of free association and free speech being a balance. That’s crap. As for Hammy above, free speech is a concept that goes back to at least the Ancient Greeks. It was fundamental to the enlightenment.
Why didn’t the so-called Human Rights Commission argue that the restrictions on free speech had already grown too far and that they should be wound back. What is wrong with the US-style absolute right?

Samuel J

22 Feb 13 at 5:26 pm
Those women make my blood boil.

Me too James. I am now so sensitised to whining, whinging, garralous gals I go absolutely spare. The Sunbather insists on having them on in the evening don’t know what channel, don’t care — that Perrett woman drives me effing crazy. I sit at my laptop with cotton wool in my ears so I don’t hear the whining bints.

Like that head-tosser Lizzie Broderick (formerly the Sex Discrimination Commissioner) and Jessica Irvine little dumpling that she is — all they did was talk bullshit. While Tim focussed on the issues those two just blathered-bloody typical leftist wymmin.

Broderick just gives me the irrits — fancy her saying that the Yuman Rights Commission champions free speech ’cause Geert Wilders is allowed to speak hear. What a cheek, as if the Human Rights Commission has been haranguing the Minister for Immigration to intervene so Wilders can speak.

You dumb head-tossing trollop — Wilders is supposed to speak here but he isn’t being allowed to, the screaming unwashed fascists won’t let him — what’ve you said Lizzie about the fact that that, have you condemned the screaming unwashed violent bastards from GetUp and the Socialist Alliance, have you condemned the violence, has the HRC said that Wilders is perfectly entitled to speak, have you condemned the use of violence by his opponents against law-abiding citizens wanting to hear Wilders speak, have you condemned that jar-head Barnett and Red Ted for their obtuseness?

Nothing — crickets. Thought not. Dumb bint.

Tintarella di Luna

22 Feb 13 at 5:34 pm
Why do you guys keep responding to Hammygar as if he is serious? It has been obvious for months that he is a Composta-style parody of the leftist commentators. You are embarassing yourselves by not getting this.

Yobbo

22 Feb 13 at 5:48 pm
I don’t see a problem with trolls like that. They add value and provide something approximating a real left-wing view to respond to.

Let’s be honest, Catallaxy is full of great people but it would only be us talking to each other a lot of the time. We’re pretty brutal to visiting lefties (the stupid ones at least) and they wouldn’t hang around. To that extent Hammy adds value, even if he is trying to have a go.

John Mc

22 Feb 13 at 6:16 pm
Put it this way: the lurkers here, and there are many, would rather read a left-wing position being taken apart than us talking to each other.

John Mc

22 Feb 13 at 6:17 pm
You dumb head-tossing trollop

Harsh but accurate.

Gab

22 Feb 13 at 6:24 pm
Hammy is a wonderful tool to get.discussion going and to get others to clarify their position.

To be honest, it wouldn’t surprise me to find that Hammy was Sinclair’s alter ego.

Driftforge

22 Feb 13 at 6:24 pm
Notice the defensive stance of the silly cow from the commission sitting to Tim’s right?

It’s suddenly becoming clear to these leftist twats that the end is coming with the election of the Libs.

Brandis stuck an IED in up their collective arses and it just blew up.

They’re gonsky and they now know it. This is just beautiful to watch in all its majesty,

Jessica is an imbecile.

Jc

22 Feb 13 at 6:49 pm
This so-called right to free speech is NOT a human right, it’s just a claimed “right” by far right racists to vilify minorities in our community. As the Commissioner says, it’s only peessure groups that have complained about the proposed law change. Their were only 4 complaints last year about so-called free speech as against thousands on vile discrimination. Of course the HRC is giving priority to the vast weight of the real evils in our society. The right must be silenced. Wilders should never have been given a visa to spread his filth here.

You’re right Hammy. Penny Easton was NOT vilified!

.

22 Feb 13 at 6:55 pm
[...] As shown in the video attached to Sinclair’s blog, Broderick claims that the Human Rights Commission [...]

Liz Broderick and the Human Rights Commission at Catallaxy Files

22 Feb 13 at 7:01 pm
The slime were totally destroyed by Tim in that clip. What a thumping.

Fisky

22 Feb 13 at 7:43 pm
No Yobbo, I’ve poked Gareth Hamilton (Hammy) a few times and a moronic 40 yo with the EQ of a 14 yo emerges.

Token

22 Feb 13 at 7:46 pm
Notice the defensive stance of the silly cow from the commission sitting to Tim’s right?

She started to try to make a case for jailing Bolt, but then pulled out at the last minute with a nervous giggle, inviting the moderator to take over.

Pathetic effort. These people have only just realised that their position is indefensible – because there has never been a serious intellectual challenge until now – and they are fumbling around for arguments. Sadly for them, there aren’t any to be found.

Total capitulation is inevitable.

Fisky

22 Feb 13 at 7:46 pm
“Human Rights” are “Collective Rights” in the eyes of the Commission. When did we become a nation where your protections and entitlements depended upon which group you belonged to or identified with?

Anti-discrimination is the logical child of Collective Rights. Without the latter you cannot have the former.

The AHRC is an Anti-Discrimination bureaucracy. It is there to protect the construct that is the collective. They do nothing to protect the rights of the Individual. See, if you protect the Individual you protect everybody.

Individual rights, Individual responsibilities. It’s not a complex equation.

James Barlowe is right to ask “Do we need a Human Rights Commission?” Dispel the myth of “Collective Rights” and they are entirely irrelevant. My answer is NO. And do away with all of the Affirmative Action equality of outcome bureaucracy while you’re at it.

ev425128

22 Feb 13 at 7:54 pm
In my opinion, one of the most fundamental human rights is the right for any human to ignore and not associate with any other human (or group) for whatever reason.

Corporations are not IMHO equivalent to humans, and a corporation must follow its charter. They do not qualify for human rights.

Tel

22 Feb 13 at 8:02 pm
When did we become a nation where your protections and entitlements depended upon which group you belonged to or identified with?

Probably been like that for some time now, however it’s been ramped up to eleventy over the last five years since these stinking rotten socialists have been in power granting more power to the likes of the AHRC that will ensure they do the bidding of the socialist doctrine. How else can you control the majority, consisting of Caucasians, other than by elevating the rights of various minority groups when resorting to martial law is not an option? Divide and conquer.

Minorities rule. Our laws reflect that more than ever and stretch to include minorities within the masses. Such as addictive gamblers – they are not the majority of people. Obesity – the majority are not obese. Smoking – the majority do not smoke, Alcohol and drugs – the majority are not addicted to these. Yet laws and regulations are continually put in place against the majority. It is called controlling the masses.

Gab

22 Feb 13 at 8:10 pm
When did we become a nation where your protections and entitlements depended upon which group you belonged to or identified with?

When haven’t we been this? Australia never progressed beyond this since days of convicts and gaolers.

John Mc

22 Feb 13 at 8:13 pm
Australia is only renowned as a freedom orientated place because:

1. Australia was a hard, rough land in the early days and it took independently-minded strong-willed people to tame it and they got the press,

2. Australia was a big place for not a lot of people so regardless of what the law said you could kind of do your own thing and no one would really care.

But legally and politically it’s never been anything different than collectivist by nature.

John Mc

22 Feb 13 at 8:18 pm
I’m supposed to pleased that the totalitarians are about to be defeated and freedom has been saved. So why do I feel I am I living in a fascist toilet?

Tom

22 Feb 13 at 10:18 pm
Word is missing. You’ve already worked out what it is.

Tom

22 Feb 13 at 10:19 pm
Wouldn’t it be wonderful to see HREOC actually disbanded. Not “reformed”, not merged into another guvvie department or “rebadged ” but genuinely shut down and eliminated.

Kingsley

22 Feb 13 at 10:26 pm
Geert Wilders is Donald Trumps fascist love child…..

Hes a snake oil salesman for wealthy creeps….

Great tie Tim and debate

Food for thought

25 Feb 13 at 12:19 am

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