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Newspoll crazy talk

I saw this exchange on Sky News today – and am glad I wasn’t the only one who thought it a bit strange. It’s up on Youtube already.

Written by Sinclair Davidson

February 25th, 2013 at 7:46 pm

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Link?????

Mark

25 Feb 13 at 7:48 pm
Yes – fixed.

Sinclair Davidson

25 Feb 13 at 7:49 pm
No kidding, is that woman on our right on medication?

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 7:53 pm
These crazy polls that disagree with my beliefs should be banned.

Infidel Tiger

25 Feb 13 at 7:54 pm
Thanks Sinc – yep weird. Beyond weird.

Basically if polls are bad for the PM and then the media, well The Australian, talks about it then that is not giving Julia a fair go. Because, well because and shut up!!

Righto. Sounds reasonable.

What an imbecile.

Mark

25 Feb 13 at 8:01 pm
Yes, it seems that there be no polling whatsoever. The Government goes along and only at the next election is there a poll. Except that’s not what she wants – she only wants polls that are positive to Labor.

Samuel J

25 Feb 13 at 8:01 pm
You know the polls are going to be bad for them when they start complaining about the poll’s existence.

The Beer Whisperer

25 Feb 13 at 8:02 pm
Except that’s not what she wants – she only wants polls that are positive to Labor.

No of course she doesn’t.

If the stupid bint had thought about it for a moment instead of opening her moronic gog, she would realize that out of all the major polls Newspoll has actually has been slightly more favorable to the Liars Party.

The idiot.

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 8:05 pm
Oh….you mean she’s anticipating her Labor mateys being touched up big time in the ongoing poll disaster that’s about to ensure Julia is catsmeat and not a drover’s dog?
Poor wee girl.

Thank god for unbiased Aussie media…….Rupert tolerates one loon too many.

Alfonso

25 Feb 13 at 8:06 pm
The muppet on the right?
Jeezuz H Christ!
It all points to one thing ….. the rambling delivery, the hairstyle, the non-sequiturs ……. she has clearly stuck a knife in the toaster this morning.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 8:10 pm
Insidious… sorry, Insiders demonstrated the point on Sunday. Bad polls for Gillard govt are dismissed, good polls are discussed.

ar

25 Feb 13 at 8:10 pm
The reasons why people are jumping over polls has as much to do with the ALP blowing up their importance in the latter half of last year as it does with their being a cypher for the opinions of the electorate.

Also, what’s with Speersy being so quiet? Is he sick?

JJP

25 Feb 13 at 8:11 pm
Insidious… sorry, Insiders demonstrated the point on Sunday. Bad polls for Gillard govt are dismissed, good polls are discussed.

All over pretty quick then?

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 8:12 pm
Does anyone know the timing of the release of Newspoll?
Tonight?

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 8:14 pm
So that’s what a troll looks like in real life.

Rousie

25 Feb 13 at 8:16 pm
Who the fvk was that insane harridan spruiking ‘teh murdoch conspiracy’ theory on polls.

Was she drunk?

Is she certifiably insane?

Has she been doing some amateur pharmacology?

WTF was she on about, really, i have never seen so much stupid condensed into 8 minutes & 55 seconds.

Carpe Jugulum

25 Feb 13 at 8:17 pm
I have trouble taking seriously a woman that wears an unkempt silky terier on her head!

Steve of Ferny Hills

25 Feb 13 at 8:22 pm
Perhaps she’s dreadfully disappointed that Ms Gillard took the top man’s job but unfortunately is not able to do it properly, so she’s become very defensive on Ms Gillard’s behalf, so it’s the journalists’ fault.

candy

25 Feb 13 at 8:24 pm
Does anyone know the timing of the release of Newspoll?

If you have twitter follow the ghostwhovotes – this person tweets polling results the night before.

Sinclair Davidson

25 Feb 13 at 8:25 pm
she has clearly stuck a knife in the toaster this morning.

LOL

Poor old Nikki looked like she wanted to get out of arm’s reach.

Given the (ahem) volatile nature of newspoll Kerry-Ann will naturally ignore it tomorrow (big if)if it turns out to be an improvement for Gilliar.

Keith

25 Feb 13 at 8:26 pm
I hope it is 54-46. That will mean that the Coalition will still be ahead but the ALP won’t get rid of Gillard, meaning ALP WILL get owned in september

Andrew

25 Feb 13 at 8:28 pm
Who the fvk was that insane harridan spruiking ‘teh murdoch conspiracy’ theory on polls.

Was she drunk?

Correct Carpe.
Latham is gong to be shitty as hell when he arrives for the Paul Murray show and finds Kerry has emptied the bar fridge.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 8:30 pm
Didn’t that harridan notice the polls late last year; and Labor talking them up as evidence of its electoral phoenix? Now the polls are turning to liquid sh*t and running through Labor’s fingers it’s all a Murdoch death eater conspiracy. Where do they find these cretins?

Brett

25 Feb 13 at 8:32 pm
If you have twitter follow the ghostwhovotes

Steady on Sincers.
Have only just graduated from the fax and telex to the electric bloggy-web.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 8:33 pm
I’m looking for a relatively good result for Gillard in Newspoll tomorrow because it will check any challenge and she is un-re-electable.

manalive

25 Feb 13 at 8:33 pm
Ahahahahahaha.

She hates the polls … because they’re bad for Gillard.

Look, having said that – The Australian does use Newspoll as a marketing tool.

For example, there is nothing particularly important about tomorrow’s poll vis-a-vis the comparably catastrophic polls of a few weeks ago.

Newspoll is not even the best poll.

Its results for a couple of months last year were clearly bullshit.

C.L.

25 Feb 13 at 8:38 pm
I’m looking for a relatively good result for Gillard

Not me I hope Abbott get’s +14 gillard -14 as preferred PM.
That would restore my faith in the voting public.

jumpnmcar

25 Feb 13 at 8:38 pm
Ooooooooooooh. She is such a leftie luvvie. They are all like that. Hair everywhere, in need of diet and exercise, and shrieking defense of all things left and female. Nikki Savva a model of rectitude, by contrast.

Interviewer – ‘but isn’t that bad news?’ and then has to remember to quickly add ‘for the government’. lol. His colours showing too.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

25 Feb 13 at 8:41 pm
I think it will take repeated polls the other side of 60-40 to shift Gillard. Or the filing of charges.

Other than that, she’s going nowhere.

Driftforge

25 Feb 13 at 8:44 pm
Argh! Go twist your electrons, Youtube! I have got HTML5 support switched on in my browser.

John A

25 Feb 13 at 8:44 pm
You know, SpectacleGate could be the proverbial straw.

C.L.

25 Feb 13 at 8:44 pm
I’m looking for a relatively good result for Gillard in Newspoll tomorrow because it will check any challenge and she is un-re-electable.

manalive, she’d have to be elected for first time before she can get re-elected.

Rob

25 Feb 13 at 8:45 pm
Latham is gong to be shitty as hell when he arrives for the Paul Murray show and finds Kerry has emptied the bar fridge.

aaaaahahahahahahaha – Champagne Comedy (its funny cause it’s true)

Carpe Jugulum

25 Feb 13 at 8:45 pm
The look on Nikki’s face when the troll suggested ‘I think we have to take her (the prime minister) on her word’, was priceless.

Rousie

25 Feb 13 at 8:50 pm
You know, SpectacleGate could be the proverbial straw.

You know, scouts honor, I bought a pair of specs from there ages ago- several years ago.

Didn’t much like the shape.

Also scouts honor, the chick that ran the store and I presume it’s the same one is a serious looker.

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 8:53 pm
Truly Carpe.
Having watched the Taxi Driver’s mate for a while now he exhibits all the indications of being half in the bag during the show.
He starts with a full head of steam, then starts to ramble and finally just goes quiet (ish).
All the signs of someone who is half cut, but hasn’t topped up for half an hour.
Note that Kerry went through the three stages of ranting, rambling and restrained all in just eight minutes.
Must have given the fridge a thrashing.
It might go some way to explaining why she looked like she had been dragged through a hedge backwards.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 8:54 pm
So the point of her argument is that The Australian’s poll is politically motivated. Fairfax and Neilson…not at all. Talk about cherry picking!

And did anyone else find the statement “We of the Fourth Estate…” utterly hilarious?

Megan

25 Feb 13 at 8:57 pm
those bad polls that Abbott gets are political interventions too.

Jim Rose

25 Feb 13 at 8:57 pm
So that’s what a troll looks like in real life.

Yep, they look exactly like a Fairfax Canberra press gallery correspondent.

Those big, mean, nasty Poles. Someone really should invade them.

Craig Mc

25 Feb 13 at 8:59 pm
Kerry-Ann more or less parroted what every Labor mouth piece has been saying for the last month or so; but there is no bias in the media!

dover_beach

25 Feb 13 at 9:01 pm
Must have given the fridge a thrashing

I think they thrashed the fridge, rolled the cleaner for his metho wipes and then skolled the brasso.

Carpe Jugulum

25 Feb 13 at 9:04 pm
Also scouts honor, the chick that ran the store … is a serious looker.

Well, thanks for that groundbreaking piece of news, Squire!

Rabz

25 Feb 13 at 9:05 pm
You’re welcome, Rabz.

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 9:06 pm
Ah yes ….. the Brasso.
I did think it was an unusual shade of lippy Kerry was sporting.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 9:06 pm
KAW, what a friggin’ awful ‘arido; and, she’ by-assed too.

amcoz

25 Feb 13 at 9:07 pm
Thrashing round like a cornered rat.

Beautiful in its ugliness.

Pedro the Ignorant

25 Feb 13 at 9:07 pm
KAW, what a friggin’ awful ‘arido;

Yea, she looks like she was hit by lightening.

She must get up in the morning and think to herself,

“Okay, what’s the stupidest hairstyle I can put on today?”

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 9:09 pm
Is it a wig? No one does that to their hair on purpose these days, surely?

Gab

25 Feb 13 at 9:12 pm
The hairdo got me too.
Looks like Bwian Mannix’s grandma.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 9:14 pm
Wow. So KAW is disgusted by the attention paid to polls? She had no trouble with polls when Howard was in government. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/02/1096527987713.html

Gab

25 Feb 13 at 9:17 pm
Gab, I reckon it’s not a wig, but she took an awful long time to get her hair just so.

Don’t like the way she said Tony Abbott was going to slap Ms Gillard around the head but she’s allowed to say that.

candy

25 Feb 13 at 9:17 pm
Nor did she have an issue discussing polls in 2011

Journalist Kerry-Anne Walsh assessed the previous week’s national politics and said there was “relief” in Labor’s ranks that the Prime Minister had got some “climate change reform” through Parliament. Fair enough. She went on to say Gillard “seems to be more confident”. A reasonable claim.

But then Walsh went over the top. She maintained the Prime Minister was “surging ahead” while “Tony Abbott seems to be falling back”. What was the evidence for this? Well, Walsh referred to “a definite vibe”. That was it. And what about the polls?

Gab

25 Feb 13 at 9:18 pm
Is it a wig?

No, it’s her hair.

No one does that to their hair on purpose these days, surely?

She’s what Americans/New Yorkers called gals with hair like that from Jersey…. Hair monsters.

She’s a hair monster.

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 9:19 pm
OK, we’ve had decent crack at the clueless bint.
But if we want to talk conspiracy, how about this?
The very day the Greens want to revive media regulation (read censorship), the mouthpieces like Kerry are out there kicking the shit out of News Ltd for ….. well …… keeping score on how many voters detest the Lying Slapper.
The other issue whipping them into a lather today was Ten employing an ex-News employee to try to save the basket-case that Ten has become.
His first item of business should be to pension off Bongiorno.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 9:20 pm
I’m not a great fan of Miss Savaa’s hairdo either, for that matter.

She’s a bit mature for a glistening dyed bob.

C.L.

25 Feb 13 at 9:20 pm
Don’t like the way she said Tony Abbott was going to slap Ms Gillard around the head but she’s allowed to say that.

No doubt said on purpose to remind people of Abbott’s alleged wall punching uni days.

Gab

25 Feb 13 at 9:21 pm
Yes, Ms Savaa’s hairstyle is … awful.

candy

25 Feb 13 at 9:22 pm
When people use the expression “all over the place like a mad woman’s s***”, I imagine they have someone like Kerry-Anne Walsh in mind.

Has she even become too fruity for Ol’ Leathery nowadays?

H B Bear

25 Feb 13 at 9:22 pm
Has she even become too fruity for Ol’ Leathery nowadays?

You kidding. He loves her.

Jc

25 Feb 13 at 9:25 pm
Hey, good get Gab!

Must instructive are the two paragraphs in the middle of this cheer-squad piece ……..

The self-confessed adulterer Ross Cameron in Parramatta has angered voters so much that the poll reveals it could be turned into a safe Labor seat with a 60 per cent to 40 per cent second preference margin.

Dobell, on a razor edge, would fall to Labor with a two-party preferred swing of 54 per cent to 46 per cent, with health concerns motivating retirees and young families.

Oh dear!
Oh deary, deary me.
How prescient to arrange the words “adulterer” and “Dobell” in close formation.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 9:25 pm
The media might be the fourth estate but Kerri-Anne definitley is part of the fifth column undercutting truth in the media. If I was totaly pissed and woke up next to her I would gnaw my arm off to avoid waking her. Thank god I don’t drink in bars in Canberra.

Disillusioned

25 Feb 13 at 9:25 pm
Nikki failing to perform as well as her writing would have predicted…

David Speers is great but slumming it here, whoah, he seems baffled that she is so clueless, but she is just silly so what does he expect?? weird. Set out to find an idiot for a panel and there is no shortage (>30% of the population still vote Labour…)

dan

25 Feb 13 at 9:26 pm
Note the violent imagery she suggests for Tony Abbott – “..smacking her around the head..”.

Did this harridan work on the Dublin wharves at some time?

James of the Glens

25 Feb 13 at 9:27 pm
I’m not a great fan of Miss Savaa’s hairdo either, for that matter.

Agree, CL. And I do think she was a little lacking in verve in that interview. The leftie hogged the floor and Savva just let it happen and let the interviewer get away with it. She writes much better than she interviews.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

25 Feb 13 at 9:31 pm
There is room for a debate about the ubiquity, frequency and psephology of polls, though.

Look at Queensland.

OMG! Newman is a failing failed failure doing a bad job because … polls!

No.

The journalists at the Courier Mail and the parliamentary press pool don’t like the historical triumph he secured so they pushed the ‘savagery’ of his ‘cuts’ to Labor’s deliberately bloated public service and, voila, he’s doing badly.

C.L.

25 Feb 13 at 9:33 pm
Most of the people who thought Savva’s hairdo was popular are still waiting to be dug up in Egypt or sitting in a glass box at the British Museum.

H B Bear

25 Feb 13 at 9:36 pm
The leftie hogged the floor and Savva just let it happen and let the interviewer get away with it. She writes much better than she interviews.

True, Lizzie. I’m prepared to put a positive spin on that, though.

She’s simply a decent, polite person.

The moderator is nto blame.

He obviously wanted the Gillard apologist to dominate.

See also Tony Jones on Q&A: three minute lecturettes if you’re Bill Shorten; “hang on, I’ll just stop you there … are you saying…” if you’re Barnaby Joyce.

C.L.

25 Feb 13 at 9:36 pm
The leftie hogged the floor and Savva just let it happen

Never interrupt idiots. Always make sure their microphone is turned on nice and loud.

Infidel Tiger

25 Feb 13 at 9:38 pm
What a Kath’n'Kim performance by the dried out has been.

Token

25 Feb 13 at 9:39 pm
I think it’s Napoleon Bonaparte’s saying, never interrupt your enemy when’s he’s making a mistake.

Louis Hissink

25 Feb 13 at 9:40 pm
The leftie hogged the floor and Savva just let it happen and let the interviewer get away with it. She writes much better than she interviews.

Savva should’ve dismissed the Hair Monter’s rant as the delusions of a nutter.

Token

25 Feb 13 at 9:42 pm
I have the same problem with my many lefty colleagues, the conversation moves from climate change to homeopathy to the horrors of free speech to vaccination and 9/11 conspiracies and really endless topics where I disagree with everything, what can you do but sit there and wait.

Although I did tell one of my colleagues that she really had to shut it when she revealed her knowledge of the 9/11 secret plans.

dan

25 Feb 13 at 9:46 pm
Real badly, CL. Why he might even lose a couple of seats. And labour would move up from a tarago to a Volkswagon bus.

But yeah, the Curious Snail hates him. Always has.

entropy

25 Feb 13 at 9:47 pm
At least one rat is not leaving the sinking ship what does that say? solidarity forever?

Honesty

25 Feb 13 at 9:48 pm
Speers looked like he got a message from the producer to follow the Australian interfering into politics statement but when she backed away they let her off. Then I am sure was told to let her go and egg her on a bit. So Savva did her bit and looked like a Journo.

Honesty

25 Feb 13 at 9:54 pm
Look when you’re confronted by a wild-eyed, wild-haired shrieking harpy the only course of action, absent a weapon, is to sit quietly and don’t make any sudden moves.

Gab

25 Feb 13 at 9:59 pm
What is the eta of ghostwhovotes newspoll results anyone know please?

Honesty

25 Feb 13 at 10:05 pm
Don’t know – expected it by about now.

Sinclair Davidson

25 Feb 13 at 10:07 pm
Bad polls was the justification for Julia to knife Rudd. So I think when Gillard is in EXACTLY the same situation then obviously they are relevent to what actions the ALP may take. To say otherwise is to be ignorant. Of course Kerri-Anne walsh is an ex-ALP staffer for Bob Hawke.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/05/20/sun-herald-loses-its-canberra-correspondent/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

LordAzrael

25 Feb 13 at 10:15 pm
Perhaps she’s dreadfully disappointed that Ms Gillard took the top man’s job but unfortunately is not able to do it properly, so she’s become very defensive on Ms Gillard’s behalf, so it’s the journalists’ fault.

Exactly, Candy. If it was Abbott rather than Gillard in trouble she’d be all for discussing his polling predicament. Her journalistic bias in flashing neon lights there. MWD will be pleased to have the material for Friday’s edition.

Ivan Denisovich

25 Feb 13 at 10:19 pm
Of course Kerri-Anne walsh is an ex-ALP staffer for Bob Hawke.

Perhaps she’s dirty that Blanche cut her lunch.

Leigh Lowe

25 Feb 13 at 10:23 pm
back in the day, the media hung off every poll as the beginning of the end of the liberal leader. he would be deposed before it was too late to rescue the election.

Jim Rose

25 Feb 13 at 10:24 pm
It’s like a meeting of Aliens Anonymous. Can they do comedy?

Chris M

25 Feb 13 at 10:52 pm
Funny, wasn’t Newspoll the left’s best friend a few weeks ago when it had Gillard showing improvement? It was all Insiders could talk about at the time.

nic

25 Feb 13 at 10:54 pm
I think Spears was utterly bemused by Kerrie Ann – hence he kept questioning her in a way that suggested “Do you really mean what you are saying?”

Viva

25 Feb 13 at 10:58 pm
“Political intervention” LOL

wreckage

25 Feb 13 at 11:01 pm
@GhostWhoVotes: #Newspoll 2 Party Preferred: ALP 45 (+1) L/NP 55 (-1) #auspol

Arnost

25 Feb 13 at 11:06 pm
@GhostWhoVotes: #Newspoll Primary Votes: ALP 31 (-1) L/NP 47 (-1) GRN 11 (+2) #auspol

Arnost

25 Feb 13 at 11:07 pm
Newspoll 45 55. In Australian

Honesty

25 Feb 13 at 11:07 pm
LOL after all that huffing and puffing from both sides, it’s a status quo result…….

MDMConnell

25 Feb 13 at 11:14 pm
Amazing. Gillard still 10 to 12 points behind and this is being discussed as a salvific number for her. She replaced Rudd because he was trailing 52 to 48.

C.L.

25 Feb 13 at 11:40 pm
How the fuck did the Greens primary go up 2 points?

Splatacrobat

25 Feb 13 at 11:43 pm
How the fuck did the Greens primary go up 2 points?
The margin of error for these polls is usually 2-3%. Thus, this is a status quo poll like MDMConnell suggests.

Cold-Hands

26 Feb 13 at 12:04 am
I know preference flows are based on 2010 results but even so I find it hard to imagine after the public bust up that L/NP primary would go down and preferences from Greens would go to Labor at the same rate?

I think 11% Greens is an artificially inflated number. If it is true then I expect Milne will use this lift as an indication that the lovers tiff has won them some Labor voters.

Splatacrobat

26 Feb 13 at 12:17 am
She’s probably the kind of person who will genuinely not understand how the ALP could lose the election because everyone she knows voted for them.

Oh come on

26 Feb 13 at 12:27 am
So long as the Greens and Labor cannibalise each other’s vote who cares? Even LNP preferencing of Greens ahead of Labor and vice versa is likely to be meaningless if the swing away from the Government holds.
The main game is now who will wind up with the balance of power in the Senate.

Lloyd

26 Feb 13 at 1:23 am
Is it a wig? No one does that to their hair on purpose these days, surely?

Only sad old bags desperately trying not to look sad and old.

Niki’s not much better, but at least her style is… age-appropriate.

Marky

26 Feb 13 at 2:13 am
Er, not in the ‘sad old bag’ stakes, in the bad hair stakes.

Marky

26 Feb 13 at 2:13 am
Wow,

KAW is seriously loopy. It’s like those YouTube take offs where the crying supporter is just screaming into the camera: ‘just leave our Julia alone, alright, (sobbing) just leave her alone…she is great.’

John Comnenus

26 Feb 13 at 4:30 am
Julia’s just a girl. Leave her alone. Fuck. Me. Dead. The idiot just shredded her credibility right there.

Tom

26 Feb 13 at 7:02 am
Polling’s statistical significance in predicting the next election result (in terms of 2pp vote) is virtually zero. It was the case for the 2004, 2007 and 2010 federal elections and various state elections (e.g Qld 2012 – remember Newman wasn’t going to win his seat). But the polls have always favoured the ALP and been used to destailise the Liberals. Based on polling at previous elections at this stage in the electoral year you should take 5% off the ALP 2pp-vote and add 5% to the Liberal 2pp-vote.

gary

26 Feb 13 at 8:13 am
Polling’s statistical significance in predicting the next election result (in terms of 2pp vote) is virtually zero. It was the case for the 2004, 2007 and 2010 federal elections and various state elections (e.g Qld 2012 – remember Newman wasn’t going to win his seat).

Anyone know where i can look at this data?

Adam Diver

26 Feb 13 at 9:01 am
I could give her the number of a milliner I know.

Jannie

26 Feb 13 at 11:25 am
…. is to sit quietly and don’t make any sudden moves. LoL

Love it Gab and good advice.

Nettie

26 Feb 13 at 12:28 pm

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