The obscenity of poll-abuse

Kerry-Anne Walsh is upset about the use of polls by the “hate media” for political intervention to derail the Government.

She went on about obsession with polls bordering on the obscene.

The most obscene obsession with polls that I can recall was the relentless hounding of Brendon Nelson by the mainstream media when he was leader of the Opposition after the fall of Howard because he was polling poorly. As if it mattered.

During that time the worst administration in living memory was embarking on a series of half-baked schemes (remember Grocery Watch and Fuel Watch?), and a raft of disastrously expensive white elephants. And the Fair Work Act. And the dismantling of the Pacific Solution, and so on. How come the commentators even bothered to report the popularity of the leader of the Opposion. Really bad things were happening and they were looking the other way.

What was Kerry-Anne Walsh commenting on at the time?

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131 Responses to The obscenity of poll-abuse

  1. C.L.

    Hey, where are Monty and Steve?

  2. Splatacrobat

    The Phillis Diller look a like could do what Crabbe and Megalogenis did last year and go on a poll diet by not commenting on polls.

  3. Gab

    TONY Abbott has a clear lead over Julia Gillard as preferred prime minister for the first time since July last year, as Ms Gillard’s personal support collapses and Labor’s primary vote languishes at a seven-month low…After weeks of Labor leadership speculation, scandalous corruption allegations against the NSW Labor Party and disputes with the states over health and education funding, the Gillard government’s primary support has remained at critically low levels and voters have turned off Ms Gillard.

    Since the beginning of parliament, voter satisfaction with Ms Gillard’s performance as Prime Minister has crashed six percentage points to 30 per cent – the lowest since August last year – and dissatisfaction has jumped from 52 to 58 per cent – the highest since the same month.

    Not so much ‘obscene’ as it is beautiful in it’s ugliness.

  4. nic

    I don’t get it. The polls aren’t hugely different than what they have been for the past year. Previously, it was dealt with ‘nothing to see here, move along’ by the leftist media. Worse, Abbott was painted as if it were he who had to play catch up. Now, similar results are a result of Murdoch’s black hand to destabilize the Government. What changed? The feeling that now, it was all too late?

  5. twostix

    Red Kerry O’brien’s relentless hounding of the Nelson Opposition was one of the triggers that finally sent me (an at the time smug pop-leftist-by-osmosis 27 year old) looking for alternative news sources to just find out what the hell Rudd, Obama, etc were actually up to. Such was the suffocating love affair with Rudd and Obama by the media that I was so revolted I actually sought out the “evil” hatemongers Ann Coulter and Andrew Bolt just to see what they had to say about what was going on in the respective governments.

    Red Kerry and the ALP love medias strategy is possibly self defeating.

  6. twostix

    I don’t get it. The polls aren’t hugely different than what they have been for the past year. Previously, it was dealt with ‘nothing to see here, move along’ by the leftist media. Worse, Abbott was painted as if it were he who had to play catch up. Now, similar results are a result of Murdoch’s black hand to destabilize the Government. What changed? The feeling that now, it was all too late?

    The polls haven’t changed since the (soon to be unemployed and moving interstate) vicious community betrayers Windsor and Oakeshotte installed the Gillard Junta in direct violation of their neighbors wishes, over two years ago.

    That was two years ago. The electorate hate Gillard the same now as two years ago, everything else has simply been a lesson in the power of the media to attempt to generate a narrative. Think of the multitudes of different narratives they’ve tried to build based on exactly the same set of numbers for the last two years.

    The only thing that has changed this week is the narrative cheat sheets being emailed out of the Prime Minister’s Office to the ALP faithful in the media.

  7. Ant

    You have to worry when reporters unashamedly drop the dacks and bare their ugly Labor backside for all the world to see yet never realise just how stupid they look and sound.

    I can only hope that she’s now reeling with embarrassment and somehow gets her impartiality mask back on.

    A fool fooling some of the Labor drones all of the time if ever I saw one.

  8. C.L.

    We must always come back to that foundational fact.

    Our democracy was suspended in 2010 by two certifiably wacko malcontens – one, Windsor, having been found to be a liar by the Australian Federal Police over the Anderson bribery story (which he invented).

    Abbott won the 2010 election but was effectively banned from being sworn in.

    This is a disgrace that makes the Kerr dismissal pale in comparison.

    The media were OK with it, though, because Abbott.

  9. Oh come on

    CL, I’ll stand in for Steve, ok? All the ALP has to do is gain 1% per month in 2PP polling between now and election day and they’re home and hosed. It’s as simple as that.

    In other news, some here may not realise that to become a billionaire by election day, you simply have to accumulate over a billion dollars in net assets between now and then?

  10. Ubique

    2013 will make up for the Eastern States’ rejection of a fine and competent, adult government and decent prime minister six very long years ago. I’m relishing every day, but the Quisling Windsor and Moonshott’s humiliation will give the greatest satisfaction.

  11. Fisky

    Red Kerry and the ALP love medias strategy is possibly self defeating.

    It was disastrous. They had two terrible Liberal leaders in a row, and their hounding caused them to be toppled for their arch nemesis, Tony Abbott, still going strong after 3 1/4 years. Tim Dunlop and LP were practically orgasmic every time a new poll came out showing Nelson behind by 20 points, John Kwiggin was shouting and thumping the table triumphantly about how there would never be another Liberal Prime Minister, etc. Enjoy PM Abbott, guys! Major own goal for the Left.

  12. Oh come on

    1 point increase per month between now and August, Fisky. That’s all it takes.

  13. Fisky

    Quisling Windsor and Moonshott’s

    Oakshitt is well-meaning, but mentally-handicapped and with a young family to feed. I would hope the Liberals can sort him out with a job down in Martin Place after the election. Given his skills, he could comfortably fill any position serving coffee at meetings, making single-sided photocopies, cleaning the privy, those sorts of tasks.

    But Windsor I wish nothing but horrible things, anguish and woe. He should be driven out of public life and shunned in private by all decent people, never to work again anywhere. On election night, a mob should place him on a scaffold as an example to all future ‘mavericks’.

  14. Fisky

    1 point increase per month between now and August, Fisky. That’s all it takes.

    Actually, I’m predicting a landslide to Gillard, and the permanent dominance of social democracy for all eternity.

  15. Fisky

    Sorry, forgot to add: /kwiggin

  16. nic

    Think of the multitudes of different narratives they’ve tried to build based on exactly the same set of numbers for the last two years.

    This is it. The lies, the sheer bald faced lies told by a supportive media during that time. It’s amazing how suddenly and universally the message has changed.

  17. C.L.

    If you missed it, Media Watch also cracked down on polls this evening.

    Ahahahahahaha.

    Reminds me of Katie Couric’s famous query after a few weeks of the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal: “Are voters suffering from scandal fatigue?”

    They couldn’t see a news angle, notwithstanding that sworn testimony existed (uncontested) that a Democrat President had ordered a powerless intern to lick his anus, soon before ejaculating all over her dress.

    Where’s the story?

  18. twostix

    but the Quisling Windsor and Moonshott’s humiliation will give the greatest satisfaction.

    The mustn’t be allowed to go quietly into the night. Unfortunately with the left having control of nearly all quangos and sinecures there is a danger they’ll be healthily rewarded for the betrayal.

    The solution for the two snakes from the north coast is to convince the left that it was they – Windsor and Oakeshotte, who are to blame for the ALP’s demise. “Think about it”, we must say, “these two rural men, ex-nationals both, bound up Gillard in leadership even when many in the ALP were crying for it to end. They urged Gillard to implement the suicidal Carbon Tax. Surely they were the greatest conservative moles of all time.

    Convince the left of that and they will immediately become unpersons.

  19. Gab

    More obscenities from Walsh. Cut&Paste:

    The obsession with the polls? Walsh interviews John Howard for The Sunday Telegraph, March 5, 2000:

    TALKING of (Kerry) Chikarovski, opinion polls this morning for her are devastating. What advice would you be giving her, prime minister, considering you’ve been in that position yourself?

    Happy Christmas, poll lovers! Walsh in The Sunday Telegraph, December 24, 2000:

    IF John Howard is taking seriously opinion polls that suggest Labor has to do nothing more than sit patiently to win government, his portfolio shuffle … has the hallmarks of a prime minister looking to the longer-term future of his party.

    Kerry-Anne Walsh, The Sun-Herald, October 3, 2004:

    THE possibility of a Peter Costello-led government will be the aggressive thrust of Labor’s last-week campaign attack on the Coalition, as exclusive Sun-Herald marginal polling reveals the opposition could seize government.

    Kerry-Anne Walsh, Sunday Age, January 16, 2005:

    LABOR’S only hope of regaining popular support is to dump its leader, Mark Latham, an exclusive Sunday Age poll reveals. As the ill leader remains in a secret location considering his future, the Sunday Age Taverner poll reveals a backlash against the party and Mr Latham since the October election. Labor faces the prospect of a leadership change within weeks, sparked by Mr Latham’s health problems and extraordinary bungling over his absence in the aftermath of the Boxing Day tsunami. The poll exposes the party as being in dangerous decline, led by a man whose appeal has dropped so dramatically that even if he remains leader he may never recover his political stocks … support has plummeted to the point where 43 per cent of voters want him to stand aside.

    Kerry-Anne Walsh and Michelle Singer, Fairfax Media, September 16, 2007:

    THE Greens have emerged as the main threat to environment minister Malcolm Turnbull’s future, with polling tracking the party’s primary vote in his seat of Wentworth at a massive 20 per cent.

    Kerry-Anne Walsh, The Sydney Morning Herald, October 14, 2007:

    PRIME minister John Howard said on Friday that the election would boil down to one question: “Which side of politics has what it takes to keep Australia strong, prosperous and secure into the future?” Today’s exclusive Sun-Herald/Taverner poll has the answer. And it’s not one Mr Howard wants to hear.

  20. Oh come on

    Look, it’s quite simple. When voters see the benefits of the carbon tax pink batts BER MRRT NBN MDMA THC LSD, the 2PP will start shifting by a point a month in the ALP’s favour and Gillard will win the election handily.

  21. Fisky

    So in other words, Walsh loves polls and is obsessed by them in fact. We can ignore her latest protests.

  22. Fisky

    Yes, you are right OCO. Gillard is going to smash Abbott once voters realise the Carbon Tax isn’t all that bad.

  23. C.L.

    Phil Coorey reports in the AFR: Gillard to sleep in western Sydney for a week!

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard will forgo her harbourside residence of Kirribilli House for a hotel room in Rooty Hill next week as part of a five-day blitz of western Sydney designed to lift Labor’s plummeting support.

    With internal and external polling showing Labor in dire trouble in western Sydney, Ms Gillard will spend the entire week in the area, including sleeping there.

    The mini-campaign will begin on Sunday night with a rally at the University of Western Sydney in Parra­matta. Ms Gillard will then visit at least seven seats over the week, including Fowler, Parramatta, Lindsay, Greenway, Banks, Werriwa and the Liberal-held Macarthur.

    The week will feature a cabinet meeting, events with ethnic communities, some of which are particularly critical of Ms Gillard, whose focus will be on education and jobs.

    Typically, Ms Gillard would campaign in western Sydney and return to Kirribilli, the Sydney residence for the prime minister.

    By staying in the area, Ms Gillard is seeking to make a statement, those close to her say.

  24. Oh come on

    If SoB’s predictions are correct (and why wouldn’t they be, given the incredible track record of wild policy triumphs this progressive and far-sighted government has under its belt), by the end of the decade the 2PP should be something like -20/120 in favour of the ALP.

  25. twostix

    It was disastrous. They had two terrible Liberal leaders in a row, and their hounding caused them to be toppled for their arch nemesis, Tony Abbott, still going strong after 3 1/4 years. Tim Dunlop and LP were practically orgasmic every time a new poll came out showing Nelson behind by 20 points, John Kwiggin was shouting and thumping the table triumphantly about how there would never be another Liberal Prime Minister, etc. Enjoy PM Abbott, guys! Major own goal for the Left.

    There is a lesson in there for the libs though. A little triumphalism is rewarded but too much hubris after the labor defeat will see Nemesis smashing down the door and installing Paul “castro supporter” Howes as PM for life post haste.

    In this regard Newmann has been the model to follow – truipmhal but not hubristic. Slothful and offensively anti-triumphal O’Farrell will eventually have his own reckoning.

  26. Harold

    I reckon the more she gets out the more votes she’ll lose.

  27. Fisky

    Agreed, Harold. She should just leave the country and run the government by correspondence. They might save about 10 seats that way.

  28. Lloyd

    Every time she opens her mouth she loses votes.
    It’s a special talent to be simultaneously unctuous and patronising whilst speaking like an illbred fishmonger’s wife, but credit goes where credit is due.

  29. NoFixedAddress

    Hay Rafe,

    Do you reckon Catallaxy can spare the data space to put up an electricity watch, you can call it “Cats Got The Power” or something similar.

    You would then have a separate division for each state and territory that had ‘prize’ winning categories for electricity increases as submitted for the last 1-2 years, 1-3 years hell you could go for 1-17 years or even 1- 30 or 40 years.

    Just a thought

  30. Ubique

    Fishmonger’s wife? Never. Fishmonger’s doxy is more like it.

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    Fishmonger’s wife? Never. Fishmonger’s doxy is more like it.

    Harsh but accurate

  32. Jeremy

    “Really bad things”

    Unhinged.

  33. Poor Old Rafe

    Brendon Nelson was not a terrible leader. He was cautious about climate change and that would have eventually earned the support that Tony Abbott got for expressing some scepticism on that issue. I think he was an excellent leader for the regrouping effort that was required at the time.

    Still the point is the overkill of the meadia on his polling while the ALP were trashing the joint.

  34. jules

    Where does she stand on an obsession with watching parody vids highlighting Gillard’s shortcomings?

  35. Popular Front

    Think about it”, we must say, “these two rural men, ex-nationals both

    Windsor stood for National Party pre-selection for the state seat of Tamworth and didn’t get it, which is why he has had a brooding resentment of the Nats ever since. He contested that state election as an independant and won it. More fool us. His great achievement in state politics was endorsing the fixed four year terms of parliament, thus further entrenching the ALP rabble.
    He then switched to the federal seat of New England and won that but the Nats shot themsleves by standing Stuart StClair in Ian Sinclair’s former seat – a real word association tactic gone horribly wrong – so Onionhead Windsor got the gig.
    Make no mistake, after his treachery in installing and continually backing the Gillard rabble the quisling Windsor is as popular around New England as scrub typhus. We are waiting for him and he knows it.

  36. Biota

    Hopefully this election will see the end or sharp demise of so-called indpendents. Most have turned indpendent because of embitterment and are no more independent that any other member of a political party. When they could have stood for principle they failed dismally.

  37. Wazsah

    w FuelWatch has been one of the poster child issues to hammer the Rudd Govt for. However if you are in WA where FueWatch operates the daily emails are very useful to consumers who want to avoid excessive fuel prices – I lived in Perth for most of the 00′s up to 2008.
    http://www.fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/fuelwatch/pages/home.jspx
    The daily FW email clicked in about 3pm and gave you the pump prices for next day – prices can not change for that 24hr period. So it lets you plan your vehicle use and refueling routine to get the best prices. Simple and easy.
    In Perth you know if you pass a station with a cheap price – that the price will stand till mid-night.
    For people in some parallel world where prices do not matter – company car accounts etc – then they do not have to be interested in FW.
    It is easy to understand how the oil industry dislikes the WA FW.
    I am not across exactly what the Rudd version had planned.
    But it is interesting the the Govt in 08 could not articulate the benefits against efficient opposition.
    On another subject beyond FW – how amazing it is that the Fed Govt does not have a fuels website that tracks and presents a range of daily world fuel prices and indices so fuel price setters might be kept a little more honest.

  38. .

    On another subject beyond FW – how amazing it is that the Fed Govt does not have a fuels website that tracks and presents a range of daily world fuel prices and indices so fuel price setters might be kept a little more honest.

    It’s called Bloomberg.

    It is easy to understand how the oil industry dislikes the WA FW.

    There virtually isn’t an “oil” industry in Australia.

    Retailers don’t like it because they cannot either raise or lower their prices once the prices are announced. They care about continuity of supply and sale of impulse items.

    If you wanted cheaper fuel, you’d want more petrol stations for more competition, more foreign competition for more brands.

    Although, if you actually wanted cheaper fuel over the “hassle” of observing pump prices as you drove around rather than logging on to your PC – you’d agitate for the 41.91 cents per litre excise and GST on excise to be abolished.

  39. .

    “Really bad things”

    Unhinged.

    Come on Jeremy. Name to your mind some good things Gillard has done, that have polled well.

    If you’re going to play the man and not the ball, at least hit the ball as you clean up the player.

    The fact is you cannot name anything that Gillard has done that polled well.

  40. The fact is you cannot name anything that Gillard has done that polled well.

    Well, she piously defended her father—by asserting that he had no sense of shame.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’ll stand in for Steve, ok?

    Now that really is taking one for the team, OCO.

    Get your head outta religion Stevie and make a guest appearance here. One only though. Like I’ve just handed you a temporary guest pass to the Qantas lounge where the drinks are free and you won’t get another unless you behave.

  42. M Ryutin

    You can only hold your breath in for so long and media partisans sometimes just ‘let go’ and the natural state of their personal political commitments come to light in public.

    What is interesting in this, though, is that while ‘blood in the water’ is usually enough to get all press gallery people going on with the Group Attack no matter what their personal views are (see Hawke in 1991, Crean, Turnbull etc) this shows that Gillard has a supporter who has lost even that fall-back “Journalist” position. For her, the personal has become the professional.

  43. Token

    But Windsor I wish nothing but horrible things, anguish and woe. He should be driven out of public life and shunned in private by all decent people, never to work again anywhere. On election night, a mob should place him on a scaffold as an example to all future ‘mavericks’.

    Windsor’s land deals with coal companies should be investigated for Obeid style transactions.

  44. Rabz

    For her, the personal has become the professional.

    Yet another of the reasons why fauxfacts is a laughing stock.

  45. .

    Gillard’s not really fucked until the media turn on her like they did to Keating in 1996.

    It’s starting but it’s not a certainty.

    If they do, the polls, indeed the election might blow out to 60%+ 2PP for the L/NP.

    I’ll only really celebrate of the ALP and Greens have a combined seat total in the House under 20.

  46. what planet am I on?

    For her, the personal has become the professional.

    With their minds full of some quasi celebrity status,
    who is surprised?

  47. Token

    How can anyone look at the way that Kerry Anne ranted and Speares responded and not see that this was a rant created to draw attention to Speares boring show?

    I repeat what I said, Kerry Anne was doing a Kath’n'Kim style – “Look at Moi, Look at Moi, Look at Moi” to the Guardian and the other havens for ex-ALP staffers.

  48. val majkus

    if you like a parody here’s the Great Pretender
    check out Conroy with a phone on his head

  49. hammygar

    vicious community betrayers Windsor and Oakeshotte installed the Gillard Junta in direct violation of their neighbors wishes

    What total rubbish. Oakeshott and Windsor were democratically voted in by their electorates, who had full knowledge of them both. The maintenance of the stance that they are leftists falsely representing conservative electorates is sheer nonsense. They are both excellent local members and will almost certainly be re-elected in 2013. The far right is being quite hysterical about them.

  50. twostix

    What total rubbish. Oakeshott and Windsor were democratically voted in by their electorates, who had full knowledge of them both. The maintenance of the stance that they are leftists falsely representing conservative electorates is sheer nonsense. They are both excellent local members and will almost certainly be re-elected in 2013. The far right is being quite hysterical about them.

    You’re trying too hard.

  51. Helen Armstrong

    Ms Gillard will spend the entire week in the area, including sleeping there. (Rooty Hill)

    She is the Queen and they are the worker bees.

    By doing this and actually announcing it, she is only drawing attention to the divide between her and the proles at Rooty Hill.

    Meaning she actually doesnt know what it is like so she is going to have a little excursion there to experience it. Like a FIFO visit to an ‘aboriginal community’. Or a camp in a swag so you can experience what it is like to be homeless. Tokenism at it’s most pathetic.

    What a joke.

    No one would have said a thing if she’d stayed at Kirribilly. It is paid for by Me (the Taxpayers), so as a fiscally responsible PM she should be staying there. Just more waste from Labor, another brilliant brain bubble from McTurd and Gillard.

  52. south

    You all wondered what Oakeshott meant when he said “beautiful in its ugliness”, didn’t you? He probably did too. Well now we all know he was talking about ALP polling figures.

  53. Tom

    They are both excellent local members and will almost certainly be re-elected in 2013. The far right is being quite hysterical about them.

    You are exactly right, Hamster. They both did exactly what their electorates asked of them and they’ll be rewarded with increased majorities at the election. You’re a legend, you know.

  54. Keith

    Windsor’s land deals with coal companies should be investigated for Obeid style transactions.

    Interesting point. MacDonald might have involvement. Maybe Windsor ‘helped’ MacDonald make the decision. The Combet and Fitzgibbon connections also need to be explored.

  55. boy on a bike

    Gerard Henderson on Kerry-Anne back in 2011: it’s all about the “vibe”

    Talk about a serious case of “the vibe”. Australians returning from a period overseas who turned on Insiders last Sunday might have got the impression that Labor and Julia Gillard were all the rage politically and it was the Coalition in difficulties – particularly the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott.

    Journalist Kerry-Anne Walsh assessed the previous week’s national politics and said there was “relief” in Labor’s ranks that the Prime Minister had got some “climate change reform” through Parliament. Fair enough. She went on to say Gillard “seems to be more confident”. A reasonable claim.

    But then Walsh went over the top. She maintained the Prime Minister was “surging ahead” while “Tony Abbott seems to be falling back”. What was the evidence for this? Well, Walsh referred to “a definite vibe”. That was it. And what about the polls?

    A slight lead … Tony Abbott’s satisfaction rating is 34 per cent, just ahead of Julia Gillard.

    Last Tuesday’s Newspoll showed a 3 per cent increase in Labor’s primary vote – from 29 to 32 per cent – and that Labor had narrowed the gap in the two-party preferred measurement from 46/54 to 47/53. Gillard’s satisfaction rating had improved slightly and her preferred prime minister rating had risen from 36 to 39 per cent.

    Certainly the poll should give encouragement to Labor and Gillard. But that’s about it. The same poll had the Coalition with a primary vote of 44 per cent. Abbott’s satisfaction rating, at 34 per cent, was slightly ahead of Gillard’s and he led her by a percentage point on who would make the better prime minister. It is most unusual for an opposition leader to head a prime minister in this category at any point of the election cycle.

    Yet the poll led Walsh to declare Gillard was surging ahead while Abbott was falling back. On November 8, the day the poll was released, Deborah Cameron said on 702 ABC Sydney that “the polls seem to indicate that people love someone with an idea who sticks to it”. No, they didn’t.

    Got it? Polls are great when Gillard is “surging”. They’re the spawn of the devil when Abbott is ahead.

  56. The far right is being quite hysterical

    hammygar, please explain what you mean by “far right”—other than “wicked people who disagree with you”—, and how you identify the members or adherents thereof.

  57. boy on a bike

    please explain what you mean by “far right”

    Easy – anyone who didn’t vote for their local Socialist Alliance candidate last time round.

  58. Richard D

    ABC radio was very quiet about Newspoll this morning (I was switching between RN & 702 Sydney). Between 6:05am & 7am not one mention (It did get a very brief mention in the 7am news).
    They did have extensive coverage of Gillards planned week in a Rooty Hill hotel though (has to be great news for the Coalition).
    The ABC must be jumping aboard the luvie poll denial/denigration strategy

  59. H B Bear

    Rooty Hill to be renamed Rooted Hill after Gillard has been there for five days. Poor mongrels – come to WA, Gillard won’t be seen here before Election Day.

  60. Token

    ABC radio was very quiet about Newspoll this morning

    Are you saying couldn’t get a comment on the polls? Even when they open the crypt door and wheeled out the Queen of the Damned to talk with “Activist” Fran at 7:40?

  61. Gab

    ABC radio was very quiet about Newspoll this morning

    Whereas ABC24 has been running the story virtually non-stop with talking heads – including the guy from Newspoll – making excuses for gillard and blaming Abbott.

  62. Gab

    Rooty Hill

    Ladies, lock up your husbands, gillard’s in town.

  63. Mark

    What total rubbish. Oakeshott and Windsor were democratically voted in by their electorates, who had full knowledge of them both. The maintenance of the stance that they are leftists falsely representing conservative electorates is sheer nonsense. They are both excellent local members and will almost certainly be re-elected in 2013. The far right is being quite hysterical about them.

    Hammy although I realise you are merely trolling let me tell you some facts as a resident of Port Macquarie for well over 30 years and fill you in on some of the fun bits of the 2010 campaign.

    The Nats have an excellent fellow by the name of Dr Gillespie running again up here after losing in 2010 (as an aside Dr G is a medico so I am happy to give him the honorific).

    Now with what can be called eerie presience Dr G throughout the 2010 campaign kept repeating the claim a vote for Rob O was a vote for Labor. Now of course Rob O kept denying this but the barbs hurt and Rob O started to make emphatic denials clearly stating for the local rag The Port News he was not a Labor boy.

    We had “full knowledge” as you say. Rob O kept telling us he would not support Labor and any accusation he would was hysterical. This of course never got a run post 2010 as it didn’t really fit the narrative of brave “Independent” striking out for a sunshine parliament full of dolphins, crystals and camp fire tales.

    I mean why should we start to hold politicians to account for what they promise pre election right?

    Your facts in this matter are totally false Hammy. Total crap. By actual positive admission for Rob O we were deceived. Dr G was right mate.

  64. steve from brisbane

    Hello.

    I put the poorer polling for Gillard down to an over-reaction against her glasses.

    That and extremely poor publicity for Labor from the NSW Right, Thompson, little money from the mining tax, worries (not actually supported by the great majority of economists) about the deficit size, and instability within Labor by nutty Rudd supporters.

    My free advice to the Prime Minister:

    a. stop talking about new spending – start talking clearly about something that has to be delayed until the money appears. (There was some talk about that in relation to Gonski, wasn’t there?, but was it just speculation.)

    b. if possible, see if Rudd will do a public “smoking the peace pipe” ceremony with you. One in which he promises to make eye contact with you, and call you “Julia” instead of “the Prime Minister”.

    c. Delay the wedding plans. I have long thought that marrying Tim would help you politically (and it is, anyway, the Right Thing to Do.) But as with the glasses, people are so insanely set on seeing manipulating evil in everything you do, you would never hear the end of it if you announced plans to marry, even it if was to happen next year.

    By the way, the only possible explanation for Abbott improving as preferred PM is by his not being in the public eye much lately. I doubt he will maintain his present position.

    That is all.

  65. Craig Mc

    Note: Rooty Hill is just a place, not an adult amusement park full of married men.

    With internal and external polling showing Labor in dire trouble in western Sydney, Ms Gillard will spend the entire week in the area, including sleeping there.

    All to the accompaniment of this tune.

  66. Mike of Marion

    SofB has surfaced – written a load of crap and now has signed off!!!!

  67. JamesK

    That is all.

    Ooooh no!

    Develop those themes liar!

    Put some meat on them bones.

  68. Gab

    Poor effort, SFB. You’re not even trying.

  69. Rabz

    I put the poorer polling for Gillard down to an over-reaction against her glasses.

    Given your indisputed honorific as this site’s resident extreme wrongologist, you indeed would. I’ll leave the rest of your delusional rantings to some other commenters to dismember.

  70. JamesK

    “Really bad things”

    Unhinged.

    That’s Jeremy Sear of Pure Poison – far leftist liar and proud turd.

    Second mini-comment of his I’ve noted in the past few days.

    Interesting, I wonder when/if the nasty little prick will make a meaningful comment.

  71. Carpe Jugulum

    Hello.

    I put the poorer polling for Gillard down to an over-reaction against her glasses.

    That and extremely poor publicity for Labor from the NSW Right, Thompson, little money from the mining tax, worries (not actually supported by the great majority of economists) about the deficit size, and instability within Labor by nutty Rudd supporters.

    My free advice to the Prime Minister:

    a. stop talking about new spending – start talking clearly about something that has to be delayed until the money appears. (There was some talk about that in relation to Gonski, wasn’t there?, but was it just speculation.)

    b. if possible, see if Rudd will do a public “smoking the peace pipe” ceremony with you. One in which he promises to make eye contact with you, and call you “Julia” instead of “the Prime Minister”.

    c. Delay the wedding plans. I have long thought that marrying Tim would help you politically (and it is, anyway, the Right Thing to Do.) But as with the glasses, people are so insanely set on seeing manipulating evil in everything you do, you would never hear the end of it if you announced plans to marry, even it if was to happen next year.

    By the way, the only possible explanation for Abbott improving as preferred PM is by his not being in the public eye much lately. I doubt he will maintain his present position.

    That is all.

    FTFY ;)

  72. Token

    All to the accompaniment of this tune.

    LOL, how apt for the girl who somehow turned her uptown Adelaide accent into a western suburb brogue.

  73. Helen Armstrong

    All to the accompaniment of this tune.

    The back up dancers even dance like she did in that other video of ‘ALP Babes Being A Rock Band.’

    I don’t have the link – even so the image is seared nightmare like onto my brain.

  74. Commentator

    It looks like the polls are saying the misogynist ploy by McTernan was a short time winner and is long term loser.

  75. candy

    my opinion is that Ms Gillard’s treatment of Trish Crossan which was incompetent and very insensitive to say the least, lost her a few points. You can’t go round treating your work colleagues like that, and as CEO of Australia …. leaves a lot to be desired.

    but the Rooty Hill thing will pick her up a few points again.

  76. Rabz

    But the Rooty Hill thing will pick her up a few points again.

    No, it won’t. This is gillard we’re talking about here, a mobile disaster area if ever there was one.

  77. Adam Diver

    but the Rooty Hill thing will pick her up a few points again.

    In your dreams. Labor have lost trust, so anything so blatantly cynical will be looked at despairingly by the punters. There is nothing like a patronising stunt, deliberately released to the media, to convert the angry mob.

  78. Rousie

    Rooty Hill to be renamed Rooted Hill after Gillard has been there for five days

    Ed Husic this morning: What the…

    May as well slate Chifley as marginal now

  79. candy

    She’s got to be shown to the general public at some stage, they can’t hide her forever, depends on how cleverly they manage it.

  80. Rousie

    Gonski, Rooty Hill, Spectacle, Industry participation, Break-up…

    Surely a golden era for sub-editors

  81. Gab

    Heh remember when gillard she would “wear out her shoe leather” selling the carbon tax? Thay lasted a whole 48 hours. And now she’s spending a week in Rooty Hill? I give it two days before she flees.

  82. Matt

    The idea that Gillard will even sleep in the Western Suburbs of Sydney – like it is a huge sacrifice – will backfire so badly it is amazing that this idea has come from an paid advisor supposedly expert in his field.

    The people who live in the west enjoy living there in the main. Seeing it treated by the PM as some remote anthropological site is insulting and demeaning.

  83. Keith

    Yes, she’ll be called away for ‘urgent government business’ if it goes pear shaped, or if you prefer, lemon shaped.

  84. Dan

    The polls are bad because

    A. Gillard doesn’t have a penis

    B. A George Bush/Murdoch conspiracy

    C. Robber barons paying people huge amounts of money

    D. People in western Sydney don’t know what’s good for them

  85. Token

    but the Rooty Hill thing will pick her up a few points again.

    I’m not sure about that Candy.

    Unlike the Love Media, the western Sydney voters seem to see through these McTiernan stunts.

  86. brc

    I dont know ow they Are going to manage the western suburbs thing. Street walks would be right out, as would shopping centers, unless they barge in at closing time with a local members family like they did in Canberra. I guess it will go school visits, local industry visits with unionists packed in tight, that sort of thing. Look for a big AWU shop, that will be where they go.

    Maybe it’s not even about winning over voters but in geeing up the troops to stop any more defections, possibly followed up with a bit of can rattling to try and get some loose change Into the reelection fund?

    Anyway, I’m with gab. A week is an impossibly long time in politics. To sit there like a lump on a log, just waiting for your haters to start turning up with placards – well, it seems stupid to me.

  87. H B Bear

    A week in Western Sydney? Ugh.

    Even I feel sorry for her now.

  88. Gab

    I recall during one election campaign, some Labor figure (was it gillard?) fronted up to the only Labor voting household in a street of angry anti-Labor voters (swing voters and Liberal voters)in the western suburbs. Expect the same this time as her Praetorian spinners do their utmost to ensure gillard only meets with friendly natives. Two days and she’s headed back to the Bogan Villa.

  89. Token

    I dont know ow they Are going to manage the western suburbs thing. Street walks would be right out, as would shopping centers, unless they barge in at closing time with a local members family like they did in Canberra.

    At the end of the week, when Gillard has finished the stunt, the power bills of the people of Western Sydney will still be 50-80% higher than it was 3 years ago.

    The cost of childcare, healthcare and everything will still be much higher than 5 years ago.

    The roads will be gridlocked.

    Finally, the Obeid, Thomson & AWU matters will be in the news.

  90. twostix

    The idea that Gillard will even sleep in the Western Suburbs of Sydney – like it is a huge sacrifice – will backfire so badly it is amazing that this idea has come from an paid advisor supposedly expert in his field.

    The people who live in the west enjoy living there in the main. Seeing it treated by the PM as some remote anthropological site is insulting and demeaning.

    It echos of the patronising “rich CEO’s sleeping rough with the workers for a night” charity thing.

  91. boy on a bike

    Gillard having to spend time out west is a pretty savage indictment of the local Labor members. Are they so useless and incompetent at representing the interests of their electorates that the PM has to turn up in person to find out what’s going on?

  92. Dan

    Have you watched David Bradbury speak BoaB?

    I think they right shafted themselves there by making him assistant treasurer, he gets tarred with the same incompetent brush as Swanee

  93. stackja

    Red Kerry and the ALP love medias strategy is possibly self defeating.

    Again have not had so much fun as did in November-December 1975. Day after day ALP in worse trouble until the election and the joy of the result. Unless enough stupids reelect the idiots.
    Ed Husic followed the usual route to Canberra now he says he supports Kev anytime someone complains about Julia.
    Why does Julia not stay in a public housing unit?

  94. Token

    Why does Julia not stay in a public housing unit?

    LOL. I’d love to see that. Jules in a fibro without airco at Emu Plains.

    Western Sydney is a hot humid swamp in Feb.

  95. Rousie

    2GB should broadcast from Rooty Hill RSL all week.
    Jones, Hadley, Smith, Fordham, Price & Bolt followed by bingo.

  96. Tiny Dancer

    David Bradbury doesn’t need to be tarred with anyone else’s brush. Anytime he opens his mouth and does more than answer a dorothy dixer he reveals himself to be quite irrelevant, jibbering tool that he is. Election day can’t come soon enough for the idiot. I hope he has a job lined up.

  97. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I have spent many good nights in Rooty Hill. I used to babysit three kids for a woman there and slept over often when they had a big night out at the Trots in Sydney. The people of Rooty Hill are good people and don’t need Gillard coming in to tell them that she is terrific. She is obviously not, and sleeping around in Rooty will not do her any good at all. Just lots of ‘Gillard slept here’ jokes.

  98. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Jules in a fibro without airco at Emu Plains.

    Western Sydney is a hot humid swamp in Feb.

    Yep. Why not go the whole hog, Jules? Try it on a slat bed with a three inch foam mattress. The sort given out by Vinnies to the unfurnished. You’re gonna love it.

    The thing is, people in Western Sydney know all about that. And they don’t like welfare bludging and they don’t want their kids to go through it. Why would they vote for you for more of the same?

  99. Rabz

    This whole western Sydney stunt is such a monumentally stupid idea that it defies explanation – that is, why would lardarse do this?

    gillard and labor are now absolutely hated (with very good reason) in Sydney’s west.

    It’s the dumping ground for every one in two insoluble, trouble making, welfare dependent third world peons that turns up in this country, rendering whole suburbs unrecognisable and quite frankly dangerous. Its infrastructure has been seriously neglected, placing further strain on residents’ quality of life – and by NSW labor, members of which are now turning up (like zombies) in the current lardarse mob. Cost of living pressures are intolerable and in direct contradiction of all of labor’s fatuous, condescending assurances to the contrary (‘carbon’ tax, anyone?). Unemployment and welfare dependence is widespread and firmly entrenched.

    Now – to have the clueless, narcissistic bogan perceived as a significant architect of all these problems front up on their doorsteps (and bring into even more clear focus why the electors are going to desert labor in droves) is quite simply, insanity.

    Oh – and the local labor ‘members’ are idiots, pure and simple. They are utterly incapable of representing their constituents if they members of this toxic collective of clowns.

  100. Tom

    Death wish:

    Labor MP Michelle Rowland, who holds the western Sydney seat of Greenway, Labor’s most marginal in NSW, said Ms Gillard’s campaign was great news.

    ”It’s actually something that I and a number of my colleagues out my way have wanted to happen for a while,” she told Fairfax Media on Tuesday.

  101. Token

    Yep. Why not go the whole hog, Jules? Try it on a slat bed with a three inch foam mattress. The sort given out by Vinnies to the unfurnished. You’re gonna love it.

    You can tell the people who have never lived the life. They can’t fake understanding it.

    I do hope she brings the bespoke glasses which caused a stir with the Love Media. You know the glasses which probably cost more than all the furnishings (and have a bigger carbon footprint) than the houses of the people she visits:

    The Prime Minister’s glasses are a hit – but who paid for them to be flown to Canberra?

    Albert Park optical stylist Sue Feldy has been inundated with phone calls after she was exposed as the woman behind Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s new glasses …

    Mrs Feldy was sworn to secrecy over her role in shaping Ms Gillard’s new look, but gained official permission to speak after being contacted by a radio station.

    “I think I knew it would cause a bit of a stir,” Mrs Feldy said.

    “We have to keep getting them in, the stockist can’t keep up!”

    Mrs Feldy flew to Canberra with 100 pairs for Ms Gillard to browse.

  102. Poor Old Rafe

    Is she sleeping with the First Bloke at Rooty Hill?

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    people are so insanely set on seeing manipulating evil in everything you do

    Goodness gracious me, Stevie. Now why would that be, do you think? Insanity throughout the land? Something in the water? Couldn’t be her though.

    Could it?

  104. candy

    It does seem like a Queen coming to visit Rooty Hill, but for five days they hope to make her seem just average and normal, a caring PM, in touch and reachable.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Is she sleeping with the First Bloke at Rooty Hill?

    Yes, among others.
    (She will be there for a whole week)

  106. candy

    Do you think the stunt will work, Lizzie?

  107. Supplice

    “I think I knew it would cause a bit of a stir,” Mrs Feldy said.

    “We have to keep getting them in, the stockist can’t keep up!”

    I don’t even… who on earth would want to look like the yabbie?

  108. Dexter Rous

    What a hoot! Which comedian thought of Rooty Hill? Didn’t he (McTurd?) realise the unfortunate connection between the Pm’s proclivity for rooting married men and her 7 night stay? Given the opportunity for ridicule, it really demonstrates the total lack of skill in the PM’s office.
    BTW it’s no longer “thought” bubble after Pickerings hilarious “knitting in the Bath” cartoon…..it’s a Fart Bubble

  109. Dexter Rous

    Who’s Kerry-Anne Walsh?

  110. Helen Armstrong

    I don’t have the link – even so the image is seared nightmare like onto my brain.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VJVw32EkIM

    Love the song, thanks, CL

  111. Popular Front

    hammygar, I don’t know where you live but I DO know that you know jack shit about New England and voter intentions. Windsor became electoral poison the same day he backed the Gillard rabble against the wishes of this electorate. I’ve lived in New England since 1969 and the ALP rabble have never been within sniffing distance of a win, except for one airhead NSW Upper House harpy, whose achievements amounted to 3/8ths of 4/5ths of fuq all. The ALP received 8.1% primary in 2010 so what does that tell you about voter trends brainiac?

  112. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Candy – no.

    She’s been to Rooty Hill Ari before and didn’t go over well. I can’t see it any different now just because she’s moved in to share the pain. She will of course offer the ‘educayshun’ lie, Gonski etc, and some will be taken in by this. Abbott needs to go in hard on the over-maxed National Credit Card line and show that the Gonski spend is another ‘school halls’ fiasco anyway.

    My hips, btw, are still sore from the slats of a week ago, and my kick-boxing class this morning was a killer because of that. I’d love to see Jules really share that pain.

  113. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    And … I am ordering a new innerspring for them.
    A bit of self interest in that of course. :)

  114. sam w

    does any one who has ever worked at the ALPBC live in rooty hill

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’ve checked how much three inches is. I think it was even thinner than that. Funny, it seemed worse this time than before. Maybe the foam sinks with use. Plus I stayed five days. The wooden slats certainly don’t get any softer over time.

    And I’ve just had some bad news. I think the miscreant has skipped bail. Nuts.

  116. steve from brisbane

    I’ve checked how much three inches is.

    Please, Lizzie, can you stop with the anecdotes about your husband?

  117. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Fuckwit Steve, if you read the last line of Lizzie’s post you can probably work out that now is not really the right time to be taking the piss.
    Not that she needs me to defend her by any means, but fuck me you are a depraved low piece of dog shit.
    You can’t help yourself can you, it always comes back to sex and bullying women with you.
    I have said it here before, I reckon that you would not be eligible for a Working With Children Check. Someone as rank as you will have something in their past that will have drawn the attention of the rozzers.
    Now just fuck off and leave the normal people alone.

  118. steve from brisbane

    Actually, I did only read the last line after my comment. She doesn’t exactly sound distraught.

  119. Rousie

    The creepy Smearer from Brisbane at it again, reminding everyone why he should be despised. News flash Steve: you suck

  120. jumpnmcar

    Spider from Brisbane, get back under your rock.

  121. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Huck, it’s OK, and thanks for your understanding. Don’t worry though. We know what to expect from Stevie; he’s more like a teenage boy than anything else really and I am sending him back to the Religion Thread for a refresher in being grown-up. And he’s right, I didn’t sound disraught, I didn’t want to give way to it, and thought if I hid it away on this thread it would be OK. Just wanted to say it, because I can’t call anyone as they will all just say ‘told you so’. But I am a bit teary, because I had put in a lot of effort and had high hopes this time.

    But hey, a million tales in the Naked City.

  122. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Huck, it’s OK, and thanks for your understanding.

    No worries Lizzie. I just can’t stand the creep.
    Isn’t the thread title a touch ironic?

  123. steve from brisbane

    See,don’t worry, Chunky. I could tell I wouldn’t put Lizzie off for long, and she would be around to tell a second flatulence on an airplane story, any time now. They amuse me, my being a teenager and all.

  124. Gab

    SFB, pull your head in, you nasty piece of work.

  125. Marky

    See,don’t worry, Chunky. I could tell I wouldn’t put Lizzie off for long, and she would be around to tell a second flatulence on an airplane story, any time now. They amuse me, my being a teenager and all.

    I got the impression that people expect you to be amused by scatological humour because you have shit for brains.

  126. .

    I’ve checked how much three inches is.

    Please, Lizzie, can you stop with the anecdotes about your husband?

    steve from brisbane
    26 Feb 13 at 5:34 pm

    You’re a winner, Steve.

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