Chris Kenny sums up:
He is talking about a large group of single men who are not allowed to work, have not had their identities or status confirmed, face an uncertain future, and are answerable to immigration authorities, and have been placed in university accommodation among the students.
It would seem obvious, courteous and prudent to notify the students, the local police and perhaps other support agencies.
As regular Cat readers will know I’m an open-borders type. But that doesn’t mean soft-on-crime. The biggest threat to large scale immigration – even illegal immigration – is the immigration lobby. I have no problem with non-citizens who break the law being deported. In some cases that means that breaking the law here will result in torture or execution when the law-breaker gets back home. All the more incentive not to be a rapist/murderer/serious criminal here in Australia.
I keep arguing that more immigration is good for the economy. Even so-called unskilled labour adds value. But I also recognise that community support is important and nobody wants to import criminals. Not anymore. I can think of no reason why Australia shouldn’t adopt a zero-tolerance approach to crime from migrants – especially violent crime.
Really out there, was Morrison.
Not a good idea, he said, to put a bunch of dodgy, mysterious, culturally pre-historic goat-herders into a women’s dorm at a university without telling anyone.
Oh yeah: when they did, a woman was raped.
Couldn’t see that coming.
At least this time the Centrelinkers’ typical predispositions made it into the mass media.
I venture that in the western suburbs of Sydney illegals are terminally unpopular with families trying to make a quid when there are few jobs, struggling to make ends meet as power bills rise, fearful for their childrens’ safety when they can no longer rely on public transport for that; afraid of theft by the interlopers visibly wandering about with nothing else to do but eye off what they’d like; and mindful that this lot are getting a free ride on their tax dollar.
Just a snippet now and then on these shonks, who Labor lets in, will keep the pot boiling for long enough for the voters to remember in September.
So haow casual would sarah pants-downs be if I was to say “we are moving the Collingwood football boys/ ADF in the dormitory”?
Shed shit kittens, yet somehow another group of similar aged men are “better?
Thats a perverse type of racism where they cant be bad because they tick her boxes as “oppressed”.
How can this be when they can’t get employment and sponge off the taxpayer?
In John Howard’s time, our immigration reached record numbers, but they were in the main highly productive people.
Howard was vilified by open-border types for saying that “We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come”.
There are many times the current population of Australia out there who would come to Australia because our standard of living is far better here, and who can live off social services while separating themselves into tight un-integrated enclaves.
I’m in favour of immigration, but only of productive people who will fit in. I don’t fear a growing population, but I do oppose uncontrolled invasion of hordes of primitives who sponge off the existing population. That is what open borders means.
The question is not “What are they thinking?” but “Are they thinking?” And of course they aren’t. Because if something big and shovel-heavy like the Bradfield scheme were being constructed, instead of the NBN, there’d be work for ALL these new arrivals for however long it took to get claims for citizenship processed. Then they’d leave that job with savings and a reference, and probably the thanks of a grateful nation.
Instead, the fucking numpties go do this. Fuck them anally with cacti.
But they aren’t open borders types, as we’ve seen with the Labor/Greens alliance. They are very strict on keeping skilled workers out of Australia. But they love unskilled moochers on humanitarian visas. That’s because the latter vote Labor/Greens.
Open borders means no qualifications of any sort are needed for entry to a country. Within Australia, there are open borders between States. A Victorian can go and live in NSW whenever he or she wishes. With open borders millions of people living in India, Afghamistan, Iraq and Africa, for example can just arrive in Australia without any identification, without any prospects of employment and expect to go on social services.
What open border types really want is for Australia’s “unfair” high living standards to be reduced to some sort of parity with poorer countries, because it is unjust that we have a high standard of living when there is still so much poverty elsewhere in the world.
Even worse – if you have qualifications you are not wanted. It’s a perversion.
Yes, I think that is much closer to the mark.
What EXACTLY does Sinc mean by “open borders”?
Being in favour of open borders is a worry. It’s an insane attitude, even if there were strict sanctions to back up the call for best behaviour. And we know there won’t be.
Immigration can only be given support if there’s a selection process. Self- selection is not good enough.
There is also enough evidence from around the world, as well as here, to justify restricting muslim intake.
Yes. I can think of quite a few unemployed/retired peeps who’d love to just rock up to Australia – no background checks necessary – and be supported by Aussie taxpayers for the rest of their lives.
And think of all the money we’ll save by not having to screen incoming travelers at airports or applicants for the various classes of visas we currently have. Just let ‘em in. Let ‘em all in. Our taxpayer-funded health system, education system, public housing system and free-income-for-life welfare system will cope, somehow.
I hear they’re closing Detroit, basically. Charter some big cruise ships and there’s a million instant dole-bludgers for ya, for starters.
Maybe a friendly neighbor will do a Castro-style “flush-the-toilet” and clear out their prisons & mental institutions by sticking them all on boats and pointing them towards Australia?
Yeah, no. I don’t see what could go wrong.
Get ready for a mad rush and resulting massive increase in the influx as the weather improves and the election nears.
I’m predicting container shiploads on a regular basis and soon.
Personally, I’d be immediately closing the borders to any immigration, and then, for a year or four, going through all arrivals since 2007 (including all asylum-seekers, and other ‘under-the-radar’ types lobbing in from NZ) to see if any criminality or undesirable conduct has been displayed on Australian soil, and then revoking visas, citizenship, and tossing back to NZ those who have been more trouble than they are worth keeping.
After that has happened I’d reopen the borders, with strict provisos on eligibility, suitability, and ability to positively contribute to Australia in some worthwhile form – either economically, culturally, artistically, intellectually, or through wisdom accrued by age.
Being able to converse in colloquial English would be one of those provisos, along with no criminal record in any other country.
I’d also remove Australia from all of its formal refugee commitments, instead increasing foreign-aid spending and sending committed Australians overseas to build infrastructure and teach locals needed skills on how to support themselves via best practice farming and setting up small industries that they can easily manage and develop.
Another piece of campaign advertising brought to you by the honest, trustworthy, non-hypocritical team of Juliar Gillard and Goebbels McTurnip, from the Australian (White People’s) Liars Party:
“Vote A.L.P. to keep out all the hordes of darkies, chinks and foreigners!
“We in the A.L.P. don’t want those evil 457 Visa people in Australia (wrote English 457 Visa immigrant, McTurnip, and Welsh immigrant, Gillard in their joint press statement).
“These evil foreigners take jobs from Australians, and if allowed to go unchecked, who knows… one of them might even become Prime Minister one day and keep an Australian out of THAT job!
“Pauline Hanson, a good white-skinned redhead Caucasian, fully endorses the A.L.P. policy, of stopping all foreigners at our borders as does Arthur “Two Wongs don’t make a white!” Calwell, a former Federal Parliamentary Leader of the A.L.P.
“Only the A.L.P. can protect Australia’s borders from the illegal incursion of dastardly educated and skilled foreigners! We stand on our record of ONLY allowing in the ILL-educated and UN-skilled!
“We are Us!
“Vote A.L.P. to stop all foreigners, darkies, chinks, xenophobia, racism, hypocrisy and lies!”
Sieg Heil!!!
I don’t believe in completely open borders, otherwise there is no incentive to improve this country. Exactly the same reason you don’t leave your house with front door open and invite all comers to sleep on your sofa.
However, I do support the LDP policy of allowing people to buy their way in. It’s pragmatic, because the money would go to people-smugglers anyhow so at least we get the same end result efficiently and without criminal involvement. Trying to select for honest hard working people is also a good idea, but not entirely trivial to achieve.
For some comments on the results of borders open to failed 3rd world cultures perhaps the Poms, French, Dutch, Danes, Swedes, Italians, Germans and the US can provide some valuable input on cultural considerations more important than money.
Julia and Tone agree with you however….so that’s that.
To some extent, all types of free trade have a levelling effect, and why not? It doesn’t really matter if you move people to Australia, or if you move factories into China. In principle, technological benefits ripple out until everyone has the knack of how to do it, and that becomes the new baseline (admittedly, this can be a slow process, and always some backwater is left behind).
However, a nation has resources, people, culture and institutions, and these things fit together to make a coherent whole. For example, we have a legal system, based on Anglo-Saxon origins and possibly some Christian influences… it may not be perfect, but it has proven itself over time. Sharia is an alternative system, but not compatible with our own, the fact that it operates in Saudi Arabia doesn’t mean it should operate here.
There are a small number of things that a nation must keep consistent and not allow arbitrary individual variations, and a legal system is one of those. Sure you can have local laws that vary from state to state, or from city to city, but the principles and process need to be universally recognised. Otherwise we don’t really have a nation at all.
For once I agree with Sinc. But amazingly his reasonable remark about open borders has brought out the worst racist attitudes from commenters. Whyisitso in particular is a disgrace. How dare he take up the pseudo-identity of an eminent scientist like Julius Sumner Miller and express such hate messages.
In my view we SHOULD allow our extravagant, ill-gotten, so-called “standard” of living to be vastly reduced. We are poisoning the planet, killing our indigenous people, and cultivating hatred towards people with Islamic backgrounds. We certainly haven’t “achieved” our living standards by anything meritorious we’ve done. Quite the opposite.
That’s the problem, right there.
I’m surprised by this fear some people have that refugees are intrinsically bludgers. There was a report in The Australian recently featuring interviews with refugees; the common refrain was unhappiness at being shut out of the chance to work.
When I was travelling in the Middle East, I was constantly being told about the lack of opportunity, particularly for young people and recent graduates. They would say, my son is an engineer, my daughter is a qualified furniture designer, but they just can’t find work.
These complaints were often followed by a description of some convoluted scheme to get son and daughter to the US or Australia, in order that they could work. Welfare did not enter into the equation.
Hammy, worst effort yet. Or should I say Tokes?
Open borders ONLY works if there is no welfare state and obtaining citizenship is extremely difficult. Otherwise it simply attracts freeloaders.
I defintely agree that any non-citizen that commits a serious crime should be deported.
That wouldn’t have anything to do with observed reality, would it?
Yeah, boat people are coming here for “opportunities” all right. The “opportunity” to sit back and laugh as their new Aussie slaves are forced to foot the bill for them and theirs, forever.
I don’t know any sane people who mind properly-vetted 457 migrants coming here to join the labor (and taxpayer) rolls, but there’s another class of migrant entirely who shove in illegally solely to get free stuff for life, and that’s where the resentment rises.
Possibly? Give me a break.
Re: Open Borders. I’d love Sinc to unpack that one a bit too. What conditions would you have in place here, Sinc?
Sorry Huckster,
Looks like
IHammy went over the top there and full leftard inmyHammy’s Arlene Composta impression.I have absolutely no doubt that hammygar is a conservative who is vainly trying to impersonate a lefty. He’s doing it very badly because those of us who are conservative can’t really get into the mindset of someone with a left-wing view of the world. It’s a bit like a man trying to impersonate a woman. You may think you’re doing it well, but you’ll never get the nuances right because the mental processes are totally different.
Great article by Chris Kenny. Exactly what I was arguing a few days ago about Morrison’s position. What is the line? By the government’s own standard the people should be in detention.
I don’t know exactly what to think here, but there must be some problems if large numbers of people come from a completely different cultural/worldview background and significantly change the mix within the country. Perhaps looking at the problems they’ve faced in South Africa would be worthwhile. I understand their citizenship rules were pretty strict, and they were condemned for them (amongst other things).
The fact that the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand and such have a history of successful immigration doesn’t mean it will have a future of equal success if the conditions have changed significantly.
Well the Christians inherited a body of Roman law, and also a body of Jewish law, neither of which originated with Christ. You might believe that God was planning this all along, or you might believe that Catholics slapped their brand name over a lot of existing institutions (like Christmas for example). Older Anglo-Saxon traditions like “moot” were also influential in the UK and her colonies and I think you will also have trouble attributing those traditions to Christ.
At any rate, that’s an argument that will never be settled, point being that these institutions and culture have co-evolved with religious philosophy and reached a stable and productive point.
Please recognise Christianity for what it claims. Christians understand Jesus Christ to be the Messiah promised in the Old Testament. We further believe him to be the second person of the Triune God whom we worship. So, we understand our roots to go all the way back to the beginning.
The Brits, at least, understood their laws to be based on those of the Bible. See here: http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/blogs/news-blog/are-law-s-judaeo-christian-roots-withering
“Rutherford suggested that the statues ‘emphasise the Judaeo-Christian roots from which the common law of England was derived’, but noted: ‘a great deal has however happened since King Alfred and his Saxon laws, and even more has changed since Moses, King Solomon and Jesus Christ walked upon this earth. Those Judaeo-Christian principles, standards and beliefs which were accepted as normal in times past are no longer so accepted’.”
I’m sorry to Sinc for getting a bit off topic though. But the above quote does suggest that our future could look a whole lot different to our past, and affect the overall mix of values our society will have.
Discuss your Sky-Fairy in the religion thread.
Oh yeah? Try asking a fifth or sixth generation Canadian how “successful” their immigration “program” has been.
So “successful” that Toronto is now composed of more than 50% of people who are quaintly referred to as “visible minorities” – i.e. useless, insoluble, welfare bludging third world peons.
If that’s success, the politicians responsible can take it and shove it up their big fat arses.
I am sick to fucking death of the left’s unrelenting attempts to transform this country into some sort of stinking third world cesspit. If you look at large swathes of Sydney and melbourne, for example, they’ve pretty much succeeded.
Mass immigration has to cease and that’s all there is to it. The benefits, as far as I’m concerned are negligible and the negatives are utterly intolerable.
You cannot have both open borders and generous welfare policies. Basic economics say you cannot fund a bottomless pit of entitlements from a reducing number of productive tax payers and business. We seem to have forgotten that 100 years ago the welfare entitlements of today did not exist, let alone be thought of as “a human right”.
Ellen, those programs occurred when there was not a cradle to grave welfare program in place and communities placed pressure on their own to contribute.
A friend of mine is a Canadian national who made the mistake of overstaying her visitor visa in Australia about 5yrs ago by just under 2 weeks, was rounded up and put into detention at Villawood, and then deported.
She has a degree in civil engineering, her family owns a large engineering company in Toronto, worth hundreds of millions if not into the billions, and is highly regarded in Canada as a productive part of the Canadian economy in mining and resources.
She has a continuing relationship with an Australian-born man, but because of that slight overstaying infringement she can’t get permanent residence or migration rights, so they have to leave the country for 3 months every year and she has to apply for re-entry every time on a visitor visa.
Her crime is that she’s white, from a wealthy family, and has a blot on her immigration record.
Apparently it’s different for people with no docs.
Yobbo, I’m sorry. I realise it was a borderline comment, but it really was in relation to the historical roots of our law.
Token and Rabz, I was trying to refer to our history – not anything recent – although I don’t have enough knowledge to put an actual date on that.
But wasn’t there a ever a time, when lots of people came from lots of different places and agreed on lots of different things and experienced lots of similar circumstances and shaped our country’s culture in a way that made it pretty homogeneous?
Can countries exist over the long run without a certain level of cultural cohesiveness? I agree about the welfare/open border thing, but does anything else matter? Are there other things to consider? South Africa thought so, and they got into lots of trouble. Were they wrong all the way through?
(Genuine questions by the way.)
Demographics is destiny. Change the demographics and you change the country. In just a few generations European settlement will only be a footnote in the history of Australia, or whatever name this landmass will be called then.
Interesting but quite possibly true. We are fast becoming a totalitarian dictatorship where a present-day government can bind future governments by entering into binding international covenants.
For example the federal government would like to abolish the States. Unfortunately at the moment this would require a referendum needing a majority in a majority of States. It’s not going to happen that way. However get some smart lawyer to get into an international agreement that requires a centralised government in each signatory country. The High Court will uphold it and hey presto – no more States.
“What were they thinking?”
These people are governed by emotions and feelings rather than logic and real world observations. They never think!!!
For who haven’t yet seen this Curtin Detention Centre in strife.
The other problem with open borders (and indeed our current immigration system) is the policy of multiculturalism. Bringing people here and then encouraging them and even paying them to stay separate is a disaster.
You can’t have open borders AND welfare AND multiculturalism AND a nation.
457 visa holders (they’re not really migrants in that its a temporary visa and if they lose they’re job (for any reason) they have a month to pack up their stuff and leave the country and are not allowed to just get another job) do not get free stuff in the country. They don’t qualify for medicare (need to have their own health insurance), nor pay the medicare levy. I don’t think they qualify for the usual social support either – eg FTA/B, childcare rebate etc.
So they’re not a drain on the country. The only issue I have the the 457 visa is them being tied to a single employer. They should be allowed to stay in the country as long as they can find a job in the skill shortage area they were allowed to enter the country for in the first place. And it should be seen as a pathway to full residency – eg must transition to PR after a few years.
Not in Australia. Maybe in a society with a realistic minimum wage (or none) and without easy access to welfare.
And if open borders and unchecked immigration is good for the economy it carries that this should be demonstrable in countries with open borders such as in much of Africa. All these countries need to prosper is more immigrants eh? Seems to be working well for them… or not.
Transfers can occur between employers if done in the right way.
That was my parents experience arriving as teens in the 1950′s. I made my note about community as both families developed deep networks with people from their source country in the quest to find employment as quickly as possible.
“Zero tolerance”
To me that means shoot on sight.
If that is what you are suggesting then I’m all for it.
Mind you the old Japanese protocol of beheading on the beach was probably far less painful and so as a sop to lefties I would compromise and allow beheading.
Go back to playing with urself moron.
im in favour of a Reverse Migration System,any person who was not born in Australian,or has worked paying taxes for 10years is entitled to Centrelink payments.Those who do not fit these criteria,do not receive any payment at all,and are encouraged to enter a Cultural Renewal Scheme,to be Reunited with their culture in their Own Country.the costs incurred in this plan can be deducted from the foreign aid programme.All boat people will be deported Immediately..hese costs to come out of UN contributions,plus compensation for christmas Islanders to come out of Liebor politicians retirement pay outs ,public service chiefs and judges pensions and Liebor pardee Swiss bank accounts,ask Richo about them and Hokkie and Keeto ,they know!
tfm,
I don’t like the way you threw the ADF into that mix. I served 23 years in the Navy and saw nothing of what supposedly went on all those years ago, and is supposedly happening now.
Yes, it was different then, lots of sexism and derogatory remarks made about the Wrans, but mostly they were to do with the fact that, in those days, people entered based on merit, and many of the Wrans were less than attractive.
Did I do that? In some ways yes, as in when we’d march past the Wrans quarters or pass by them on the road, we’d howl like dogs. Not very mature but hey, I was 16 at the time, after first serving 12 months at HMAS Leeuwin.
We soon grew out of it.
But lumping the ADF in with those misogynistic pigs from Sri Lanka (and yes, they are that, as that is their culture, just like Indians and Arab types) is way beyond the pale. Same with those maggotpie players. Yes, there have been many incidents with football players over the years, but I also think they get a bum deal from the feminists out there who seem to lump all blokes with a penis as rapists or the like.
I’m not saying the ADF was perfect in my day, and yes, it was mostly a male dominated institution, but that is how it was and things have changed, we have women going to sea (and the reason I paid off, as I did not wish to serve with them at sea. I’d already done so on small boats, they complemented our cadre crew when we went operational, and hoo boy, but enough of that.), pretty soon the government will send them to the front lines (and this will be before the government makes it law that there is to be no separate sporting codes, especially in the professional ranks), and just like sending women to sea, it will probably be done without any forethought, any real planning, no, the sycophantic and obsequious top brass will be given the order to make it so, and voila, off they will go, with no questions asked.
I do hope that the top brass do enquire as such, unlike the idiotic senior officers of the RAN, the result of their cowardice plain for all to see, what with the events on some ships coming to light.
Sorry to go off on a bit of a ramble, but I served my country proudly, and it pains me greatly to see the RAN for what it has become today, basically nothing but a taxi service for illegal immigrants.
And yes, this is a point I was going to make, before I saw your comment, all boat people coming from Indonesia (unless they are Indonesian), are illegal immigrants. There is not one true asylum seeker or refugee from tyranny and oppression and persecution and possible death amongst them.
That little snippet, so deliberately ignored by that odious and abjectly stupid sh-y and others of her moronic ilk, of UN wording, refutes all claims by these welfare shoppers of legal asylum seeker status.
They’ve obviously been safe and secure in Indonesia for however many months they spent there prior to spending big on a people smuggler’s boat, ergo, Indonesia is their place of refuge. Which is where they should have applied for asylum.
I just wish blokes like Morrison would state this day in and day out, and backed to the hilt by Abbott. Why they do not is a mystery to me.
Maybe they don’t wish to be called racist, among other names the laborgreenslime label them with.
Show some courage boys, on this subject, and maybe I might change my mind about Abbott being able to lead the country, for he sure can’t do it now, not with him still remaining silent over gillard’s misogyny rant, and him failing, big time, to defend his wife and daughters.
Peter55
I should have been clearer, I didnt single out the ADF or the footy players as particularly “bad” groups of people. I used them as an example of a nearly 100% male group that someone like Hanson-Dung would consider as a “risk” to the poor girls regardless of their behavior.
It was to point out the silliness of accepting a large group of single males in a female dormitory. The Greens seem to think being a refugee makes you a good person automatically, it doesnt.
So apologies if you thought I was having a shot at the ADF as a “bad” group.
Roger that tfm. No apology necessary.
And speaking of men and women in uniform. Have just read that a female Army officer in the UK was told she would have to cover up her uniform when flying on Virgin Airlines. Because it was deemed to be threatening to some people.
jesus, we are truly living in a fucked up world. These same morons who made her wear flight pyjamas would have no worries allowing ‘females’, who may or may not be female, wearing that disgusting tarpaulin that saves us pathetic men from becoming too aroused and inflamed as the sight of her cankles.
Of course, once it became news, the airline PR swung into action, stating that it is not policy blahblahblah. And I hope that is true, and it was only some smug arsehole in security being a smug arsehole, aided and abetted by smug arsehole flight staff who told her if she didn’t she would not be allowed to board the plane.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/16332500/officer-told-to-cover-up-uniform-on-virgin-flight/
If you can’t speak English, you cannot become a citizen. That for mine is the main prerequisite for entry to Australia. And you must find work within 6 months of arrival, with no welfare to support you, apart from the initial, let’s make it 30 days, to acclimate yourself to the country.
And if you have no identification upon your person prior to being taxi serviced to the nearest port, no citizenship ever. Unless you go back to the hellhole you are supposedly fleeing (which they aren’t, not having come on boats from Indonesia), get your ID, and try again, this time through correct channels.
And stop all immigration from any islamic country.
There is more, but that should suffice in keeping out those who do not want to assimilate and work.
Oh, one more thing. If all Australian citizens spoke English, we would save 1000s of millions (I hate the goober version of billions) on translator services. So no speakee English, no welfare, no help whatsoever, apart from that initial 30 days.
It’s all too easy, if you have one functioning brain cell, which sadly, many of the laborgreenindependent slimalition do not have, or at lease use.
Subject: Putin’s speech on Feb.04, 2013
On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma,(Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:
“In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Shari’ya Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law. Russia does not need minorities.
Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation.
The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honourable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians
Subject: Putin’s speech on Feb.04, 2013
On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma,(Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:
“In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Shari’ya Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law. Russia does not need minorities.
Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation.
The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians
The ADF doesn’t have to be perfect, except to the PC and loopy feminist cadres. It has to be effective.
It should be a male-dominated machine. Otherwise it turns into a scurrying, slithering, hunted goup, with more PC and feminist issues on its mind than prosecuting, harrassing, containing,and, as and when necessary, killing those of our enemies who would do the same to us, given the chance.
Piett (0806):
The government (as usual) got it back to font, they should be allowed to work but NOT have access to social security, that would sort the economic migrants from the genuine asylum seekers.
Absolutely correct. With empahsis on the killing.
Obviouslyunfortunately you are not a member of the defence heirachy blogstrop.