Tuesday Forum: March 12, 2013 at Catallaxy Files

Tuesday Forum: March 12, 2013

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Steve of Glasshouse

12 Mar 13 at 8:44 pm
Let’s set the tone for the thread

In mid-March the Morgan Poll shows support for the L-NP is 57.5% (up 3% since February 28-March 3, 2013) cf. ALP 42.5% (down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis.

The L-NP primary vote is 47% (up 2%) clearly ahead of the ALP 31.5% (down 1.5%). Among the minor parties Greens support is 11% (up 0.5%) and Independents/ Others are 10.5% (down 1%).

If a Federal election were held today the L-NP would easily win the election according to today’s multi-mode Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention conducted over the last few days, March 7-10, 2013 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 4,626 Australian electors aged 18+.

The Roy Morgan Government Confidence Rating is now at 104pts (up 7pts in a week) with 43% (up 2.5%) saying Australia is ‘heading in the right direction,’ compared to 39% (down 4.5%) saying Australia is ‘heading in the wrong direction’ — mirroring this week’s rise in Consumer Confidence (up 1.4pts to 121.0).

Gary Morgan says:

“Today’s Morgan Poll shows the L-NP (57.5%, up 3%) increasing their lead over the ALP (42.5%, down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis despite Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s week-long stay in Western Sydney — a key battleground for this September’s election.

“The continuing leadership speculation about Prime Minister Gillard, and a possible return to the leadership of former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, continues to provide a massive distraction for the Government as it tries to improve its standing in the electorate.

“In addition, on the weekend the L-NP won a resounding victory in the WA State Election with an approximate two-party preferred result of L-NP (58%) cf. ALP (42%). During the campaign WA Opposition Labor Party Leader Mark McGowan was keen to distance the State Labor Party from the Federal Government. This is not surprising as this week’s Morgan Poll shows the Federal L-NP (69%) cf. ALP (31%) has an even stronger two-party preferred lead in WA.”

Electors were asked: “If an election for the House of Representatives were held today — which party would receive your first preference?”

Finding No. 4872 – This multi-mode Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention was conducted over the last few days, March 7-10, 2013 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 4,627 Australian electors aged 18+, of all electors surveyed 3% (up 0.5%) did not name a party. Polling was conducted via face-to-face interviewing and also via online surveying.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2013/4872/

Gab

12 Mar 13 at 8:45 pm
“I am disturbed by the tone of the political debate and the increasingly personal nature of the attacks on our PM,” he said.

“I believe we need to lay off the PM. It’s not Australian to continue to comment in a vicious and personal nature about the Prime Minister.”

So says National Party idiot Darren Chester.

Yes, she suspended Australian democracy, has attempted to ban free speech, managed to get 1100 people killed, attempted to send women and children to Malaysian brothels and has accused Tony Abbott of hating his mother and daughters. But let’s lay off he. Well no, Dazzler – we won’t.

C.L.

12 Mar 13 at 8:56 pm
4th

Carpe Jugulum

12 Mar 13 at 9:04 pm
You’re right CL. The abuse and bile that spews out from the ALP makes any comments about Gillard seem mild.

Samuel J

12 Mar 13 at 9:04 pm
5th

Tintarella di Luna

12 Mar 13 at 9:05 pm
As in the former thread – Morgan Poll – lovely numbers!!!!!!!!!

Mike of Marion

12 Mar 13 at 9:10 pm
Albanese was on Sky tonight saying the the proposed government overseer for the ‘self-regulator’, the press council, will be appointed just like the chairman of the ABC. Conroy was also spruiking that he only wanted the press council to enforce existing standards. This apparently is a ‘light touch’ regulatory model. Apparently, the ALP goons want credit for not doing worse. Are these people smoking crack? Seriously, these totalitarian fuckwits need to go urgently.

Skuter

12 Mar 13 at 9:11 pm
It’s not Australian to continue to comment in a vicious and personal nature about the Prime Minister.”

If Australians are doing it en-masse then by definition it is “Australian”.

What is “not Australian” is these recent attempts to fabricate the same sort of aura and “respect” that the yanks have for their president for the Australian Prime Minister. We reserve that sort of stuff for the Queen. At best the PM is just a jumped up public servant hack who deserves all the shit we shovel out, and that’s for a good PM, not this australia hating commie.

Stupid fucking nationals.

twostix

12 Mar 13 at 9:12 pm
“I am disturbed by the tone of the political debate and the increasingly personal nature of the attacks on our PM,” he said.

Is he talking about the names the ALP called Rudd a few months back?

Infidel tiger

12 Mar 13 at 9:12 pm
It’s not Australian to continue to comment in a vicious and personal nature about the Prime Minister.”

Where was Chester the Jester when Howard was PM? Or is it acceptable only when the PM is a conservative male?

Gab

12 Mar 13 at 9:15 pm
The nationals have a lot to answer for, given that it is two people sitting in two of their failed seats, both products of the North Coast Nationals Fail Boat that have created this nightmare.

twostix

12 Mar 13 at 9:19 pm
Albanese was on Sky tonight

Red undies boy is copping heaps on PML (Sky).

Carpe Jugulum

12 Mar 13 at 9:20 pm
Albanese was on Sky tonight saying the the proposed government overseer for the ‘self-regulator’, the press council, will be appointed just like the chairman of the ABC. Conroy was also spruiking that he only wanted the press council to enforce existing standards. This apparently is a ‘light touch’ regulatory model. Apparently, the ALP goons want credit for not doing worse. Are these people smoking crack? Seriously, these totalitarian fuckwits need to go urgently.

So they’re going full Finklestein? Government media content regulator and all?

twostix

12 Mar 13 at 9:22 pm
OK Gab. I like your “tone” suggestion.
I gather most here are Lib supporters.
2 questions:
If a pollster phoned you, which party would you say you would vote for?
Who would you say you preferred out of Gillard, Rudd, and Shorten?
Me, I’d say Labor, and Gillard.
I’m mostly an honest person, but hey, the nation’s well being is at stake here. Whilst confident the Coalition will win the election, I want Labor completely, absolutely humiliatingly SMASHED.

Norma

12 Mar 13 at 9:23 pm
Conboy is a complete Cnut.

Infidel tiger

12 Mar 13 at 9:26 pm
The Soviets would be proud of Captain Underpants.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/news-ltd-ceo-kim-williams-rejects-federal-governments-media-reform-package/story-fncynkc6-1226595433633

Andrew

12 Mar 13 at 9:28 pm
Hi Norma. No this site is mostly Libertarians with some Liberals,conservatives, decent lefties and ignorant ones plus a few others. There’s also a fake conservative, Nutjob from Brisbane who raves on about the purpose of semen and such.

If a pollster phoned you, which party would you say you would vote for?

It would depend on my mood. At the end of the day there really is only one poll that matters the most.

Gab

12 Mar 13 at 9:30 pm
“It’s not Australian to continue to comment in a vicious and personal nature about the Prime Minister.”

We have, as a people, been civil as a rule and “appropriate” in our forms of protest and expression.

Look where that’s got us. They don’t fear us, thus they don’t respect us, thus they treat us accordingly.

Paul

12 Mar 13 at 9:30 pm
The Soviets would be proud of Captain Underpants.

This will be the chance for all those courageous, highly committed, self congratulating “fight the power”, “journalists” to live out their heroic fantasies and refuse to acquiesce to the government censorship regime – going to prison and writing their columns from there if necessary.

They’ll do it for sure won’t they? I mean it’s not like they’re a bunch of bovine, star-struck, power adoring whores.

twostix

12 Mar 13 at 9:38 pm
So the government that derided concerned citizens as the Convoy of No Consequence or the Convoy of Incontinence want respect?

Good luck with that one!

nilk

12 Mar 13 at 9:40 pm
Dear PM,

You are divisive, hateful, sociopathic, destructive, unintelligent, ugly, disgraceful, hatemongering, philandering, lying, deceitful, frightening, backstabbing, incompetent and helping ruin our economy.

I have other words for you but they have been censored.

YF

Taxpayer

pete m

12 Mar 13 at 9:42 pm
Always a pleasure to see snowcone tone Jones hung out to dry, flapping in the breeze – as he was today in the Oz Cut & Paste section. Having quoted Tony J going the big bully against Scott Morrison for mentioning behavioural protocols, the C&P shows Tony’s cohort regularly using the same term. What a dick he is.
Link
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Blogstrop

12 Mar 13 at 9:44 pm
Now Now IT I am very concerned that by juxtaposing the name of Conboy and Cnut you are in fact taking in vain the name of Cnut the Great, founder of the Climate Skeptics back in the 10th century AD.

Another descriptor: the waterboy?

Tintarella di Luna

12 Mar 13 at 9:45 pm
IT..unfortunately, Conroy is nothing like a Cnut

duncanm

12 Mar 13 at 9:46 pm
pipped by Tinta

duncanm

12 Mar 13 at 9:46 pm
Morgan is a totally discredited poll – has been for years. They never get within cooee of an actual result at election time. The most accurate has always been Newspoll. Their poll shows the ALP poised to make a surge down the straight and win a third straight election. Winning from 48% down is very doable.

hammygar

12 Mar 13 at 9:50 pm
Yes hammy, being at least 3% out from every poll means it is the most representative poll. Nice work!

Andrew

12 Mar 13 at 9:52 pm
Wheels within wheels..Spartacus

Crassus: Do you steal?
Antoninus: No, master.
Crassus: Do you lie?
Antoninus: Not if I can avoid it.
Crassus: Have you… ever dishonored the gods?
Antoninus: No, master.
Crassus’: Do you refrain from these vices out of respect for moral virtues?
Antoninus: Yes, master.
Crassus: Do you eat oysters?
Antoninus: When I have them, master.
Crassus: Do you eat snails?
Antoninus: No, master.
Crassus: Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral, and the eating of snails to be immoral?
Antoninus: No, master.
Crassus: Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn’t it?
Antoninus: Yes, master.
Crassus: And taste is not the same as appetite, and therefore not a question of morals, hmm?
Antoninus: It could be argued so, master.
Crassus: My robe, Antoninus. My taste includes both snails and oysters. [approaches a balcony] Antoninus, look, across the river. There is something you must see. [looking toward Rome, as the garrison sets out] There, boy, is Rome. The might, the majesty, the terror of Rome. There is the power that bestrides the known world like a colossus. No man can withstand Rome. No nation can withstand her. How much less… a boy! Hmm? [chuckles] There is one way to deal with Rome, Antoninus. You must serve her. You must abase yourself before her. You must grovel at her feet. You must… love her. Isn’t that so, Antoninus? [turns around, and sees Antoninus gone] Antoninus? Antoninus?

Steve of Glasshouse

12 Mar 13 at 9:52 pm
Hammy ..if that ALP nag does a bolt down the home straight, it’ll be chock full of go fast juice. Kinder to just shoot the bastard now

Steve of Glasshouse

12 Mar 13 at 9:56 pm
Banks saved, but Europe risks “losing a generation”

(Reuters) – Europe has spent hundreds of billions of euros rescuing its banks but may have lost an entire generation of young people in the process, the president of the European Parliament said.

Since the region’s debt crisis erupted in Greece in late 2009, the European Union has created complex rescue mechanisms to prop up distressed countries and their shaky banking sectors, setting aside a total of 700 billion euros.

But little has been done to tackle the devastating social impact of the crisis, with more than 26 million people unemployed across the EU, including one in every two young people in Greece, Spain and parts of Italy and Portugal.

That crippling level of unemployment has led to protests and outbreaks of violence across southern Europe, raising the threat of full-scale social breakdown, including rising crime and anti-immigrant attacks that can further rattle unstable governments.

“We saved the banks but are running the risk of losing a generation,” said Martin Schulz, a German socialist who has led the European Parliament, the EU’s only directly elected institution, since January last year.

“One of the biggest threats to the European Union is that people entirely lose their confidence in the capacity of the EU to solve their problems. And if the younger generation is losing trust, then in my eyes the European Union is in real danger,” he told Reuters in an interview.

Figures released last week showed 57 percent of Greeks aged 15 to 24 are out of work, and a similar scourge is tearing apart the fabric of Spain, where some university graduates in their 30s have never had a job.

JamesK

12 Mar 13 at 10:06 pm
Fin Times: Top executives join France exodus

New evidence of top French executives leaving the country has emerged as President François Hollande battles a stalling economy and tumbling approval ratings.

Two senior executives at Moët Hennessy, the champagne and cognac arm of the LVMH luxury group, are moving to London from Paris and the head of Dassault Systèmes, the software arm of Dassault Aviation, said some senior managers of his company had left and he was considering following suit.

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LVMH, headed and controlled by Bernard Arnault – Europe’s richest man – told the Financial Times that the moves by Gilles Hennessy, an LVMH director who is also executive vice-president of commercial at Moët Hennessy, and Christophe Navarre, chief executive of Moët Hennessy and a member of LVMH’s executive committee, were not because of tax reasons.

But Bernard Charlès, chief executive of Dassault Systèmes, was sharply critical of the high tax policies of Mr Hollande’s Socialist government, telling Le Monde newspaper in an interview: “Residing in France has become a big handicap. Very largely, our hiring of top managers will have to be done elsewhere than in France.”

The news follows Mr Arnault’s own application for Belgian citizenship, leaked last September, which poured fuel on a fiery debate in France about entrepreneurship, patriotism and high taxes.

Figures released on Monday showing a worse-than-expected 1.2 per cent fall in industrial production in January over December underlined the grim outlook facing Mr Hollande, whose approval ratings have fallen this month to as low as 30 per cent.

JamesK

12 Mar 13 at 10:11 pm
32nd, Thanks Gab, the Newspoll was obviously a rogue or else a putup job by friends of Gillard to fend off Rudd or friends of the Coalition to keep Gillard in the hot seat.

Rafe

12 Mar 13 at 10:11 pm
I seem to remember someone here (Hammy? Sh!t4Brains? Munty?) citing Morgan Poll as the font of all wisdom …. it was running with a 2PP of 49:51 in favour of the Slapper-in-Chief at the time.
Yes, Morgan is all over the shop, but any of the more reliable polls point to one thing – Lardarse is gone but they can’t figure out whether to re-instal Ear-wax boy to save heir sorry arses or not.

Leigh Lowe

12 Mar 13 at 10:12 pm
Yesterday the New York Slimes’ Tom Friedman wanted Obummer to say no to the Keystone pipeline now the editor does:

NYT Editorial When to Say No

The State Department’s latest environmental assessment of the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline makes no recommendation about whether President Obama should approve it. Here is ours. He should say no, and for one overriding reason: A president who has repeatedly identified climate change as one of humanity’s most pressing dangers cannot in good conscience approve a project that — even by the State Department’s most cautious calculations — can only add to the problem.

JamesK

12 Mar 13 at 10:15 pm
A president who has repeatedly identified climate change as one of humanity’s most pressing dangers cannot in good conscience approve a project that — even by the State Department’s most cautious calculations — can only add to the problem.

Ugh America really is behind the rest of the world.

twostix

12 Mar 13 at 10:23 pm
American Progress does na excellent summary of the hit job, the MSM, Obummer and Florida did and are persisting in doing with the Trayvon Martin case:

Why Florida Persists in the Zimmerman Prosecution

“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” President Barack Obama said on March 23 of that year. In so saying, Obama gave the White House imprimatur to a politically irresistible campaign, one that both stoked the grievances of his racially sensitive base and energized his party’s gun control advocates. That the shooting took place in Florida, the most highly contested state in that year’s presidential election, made its politicization all the more inevitable.

It would take the media nearly two weeks to learn that their great white defendant was Hispanic and a registered Democrat at that, but by that time the train had long since left the station, and the railroading had irreversibly begun. Zimmerman would have to do.

JamesK

12 Mar 13 at 10:25 pm
Oh that infant we said an Israel rocket killed?

Ooops it was actually a Palestinian rocket.

Still. Eeevil Israel for forcing those nice Palis to have fire rockets in self-defence

U.N. Ties Gaza Baby’s Death to Palestinians

JERUSALEM — A United Nations report has suggested that a Palestinian infant who died in the fighting in Gaza last November may have been killed by an errant Palestinian rocket rather than by an Israeli airstrike as was widely believed at the time. The infant’s death quickly became a powerful symbol of the conflict.

The 11-month-old infant was the son of a BBC journalist in Gaza, Jihad al-Masharawi, and photographs of the distraught father carrying the body of his son, Omar, wrapped in a white shroud were printed in newspapers worldwide and widely distributed on social media.

At the time, Mr. Masharawi and human rights organizations attributed the deaths of Omar and two relatives on Nov. 14 to Israeli airstrikes as the military launched its attacks on Gaza.

A day after the deaths, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights, based in Gaza, said the Masharawi home had been hit by a missile fired by an Israeli warplane. Human Rights Watch also said that the house had been hit by an Israeli strike, citing news reports and witnesses who spoke to the group.

Paul Danahar, the BBC Middle East bureau chief, wrote on his Twitter account that an Israeli shell had come through the roof of the small Gaza home. Mr. Danahar visited his grieving colleague there on Nov. 15 and posted a photograph of a roundish hole in the roof of a burned-out room.

But a March 6 report by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights on the eight-day conflict, which ended with a cease-fire, stated that three people in the home — Omar, a woman and an 18-year-old youth — were most likely the victims of “what appeared to be a Palestinian rocket that fell short of Israel.”

JamesK

12 Mar 13 at 10:32 pm
Here’s the BBC report on the same topic:

They belittle the UN report as much as possible

JamesK

12 Mar 13 at 10:35 pm
Serious question: is Conroy retarded?

dover_beach

12 Mar 13 at 10:36 pm
Serious question: is Conroy retarded?

Yes but it’s genetic. His family members were deprived of milk for two weeks.

Gab

12 Mar 13 at 10:38 pm
The UK is insane:

Nick_Brisbane

12 Mar 13 at 10:41 pm
no link attached:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290444/Madness-How-pay-billions-electricity-bills-Britains-biggest-power-station-switch-coal-wood-chips–wont-help-planet-jot.html#ixzz2NB9VDGZX

Nick_Brisbane

12 Mar 13 at 10:42 pm
Actually, I am with Chester on this one. People should lay off the abuse of Gillard.

For the same reasons, if a pollster rings me up I will say I am voting labor and I think Gillard is the best PM Eva!

I will have my vengeance.

Entropy

12 Mar 13 at 10:49 pm
2sticks

Ugh America really is behind the rest of the world.

Yeah, so much so that they don’t even have a Carbon Tax.

The primates.

Zatara

12 Mar 13 at 11:01 pm
Actually, I am with Chester on this one. People should lay off the abuse of Gillard.

For the same reasons, if a pollster rings me up I will say I am voting labor and I think Gillard is the best PM Eva!

I will have my vengeance.

I am with you on that one entropy, I kind of support her. Okay, I hate what she is doing to the country, but I love what she is doing to the labor party!

Rob

12 Mar 13 at 11:13 pm
“Serious question: is Conroy retarded”?

He must be.

He makes Swan seem almost normal…

cynical1

12 Mar 13 at 11:16 pm
His family members were deprived of milk for two weeks.

On his uncle’s side and how far away did they live?

OMG thanks Gab for reminding me of that tosser’s performance at the 2011 National Conference when he blubbed like a panty-wetting shiela – what a chinless wonder – just like his chinless-wonder leader, crying cause the Americans landed on the moon, how embarrassment.

The Sunbather, who rarely comments on things political as he thinks I do enough for us both, said to me tonight “Can you believe Gillard is our Prime Minister?” I replied rather tetchily – don’t remind me, I’d almost forgotten for 30 seconds.

Tintarella di Luna

12 Mar 13 at 11:17 pm
“I believe we need to lay off the PM. It’s not Australian to continue to comment in a vicious and personal nature about the Prime Minister.”

In days past Doug Anthony would have National Party idiot Darren Chester over for a laconic chat:

“We are here to win, we are not here to be lovely and nice and humane to the people we have determined to crush.

You need to spend more time with your family, unburdened by public duty and well away from the media.

This gentleman here is our Coalition partner’s representative, Senator Reg Withers. He is has unselfishly offered his valuable time to further encourage you to that decision, if necessary.

Do you follow me laddie?”

Mick Gold Coast QLD

12 Mar 13 at 11:33 pm
Conroy, like Gillard, Cameron and no doubt countless others seem to have imported their socialist world view from the UK of the 1950s, 60s and 70s. Imagine a young and naive Julia sitting at the feet of her father, absorbing the inequalities and injustices that forced Gillard pere to gather his meagre chattels from their damp-ridden terrace in Wales and bravely set out for a better life on the other side of the world.

Conroy is still fighting against irradiated milk from the 1950s while staying at Eddie Obeids ski chalet. Leftys don’t have highly developed sense of either irony or hypocracy.

H B Bear

13 Mar 13 at 12:03 am
It is always interesting to see the results of a poll you replied to. I want to see the outcomes of some of the other questions.

I sit contemplating the amount of effort in filling in the other Morgan books. Tomorrow. Probably …

dismissive

13 Mar 13 at 12:07 am
LII

Cold-Hands

13 Mar 13 at 12:10 am
the 1950s, 60s and 70s. Imagine a young and naive Julia sitting at the feet of her father, absorbing the inequalities and injustices that forced Gillard pere to gather his meagre chattels from their damp-ridden terrace in Wales and bravely set out for a better life on the other side of the world.

The god awful, miserable soul destroying “Poland with TV” UK of the 1970′s was the culmination of the commie-in-all-but-name UK politics of the 1950′s and 1960′s.

That’s how smart these people are: “No we need more socialism than the shithole our parents escaped from, solidarity brother!”.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 12:18 am
Conroy, like Gillard, Cameron and no doubt countless others seem to have imported their socialist world view from the UK of the 1950s, 60s and 70s.

and

That’s how smart these people are: “No we need more socialism than the shithole our parents escaped from, solidarity brother!”.

Amen to that

tbh

13 Mar 13 at 12:30 am
If a pollster phoned you, which party would you say you would vote for?
Who would you say you preferred out of Gillard, Rudd, and Shorten?
Newspoll asked me this last weekend. However, as I answered truthfully (Lu Kewen, as he is not as beholden to the unions), I cannot be blamed for Gillard’s resurgence in the preferred PM question.

Cold-Hands

13 Mar 13 at 12:30 am
The DT have excelled themselves with this picture of that snivelling limey piece of shit Conroy:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/julia-gillards-henchman-stephen-conroy-attacks-freedom-of-the-press/story-e6freuy9-1226595971160

Infidel Tiger

13 Mar 13 at 12:47 am
hahaha that’s really giving Conroy the finger.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 12:50 am
The big story on the front page of both The Aged And the SMH is….Gina!

No mention of Joseph Conroy at all….maybe later.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 12:57 am
Ahahahahahaha, that pic of Conroy was gold.

tbh

13 Mar 13 at 1:02 am
Conroy: the man who suffers.

Also: be wary of Stephen Conroy in a public toilet.

(Read that whole thing and see why he’s the man with the famously named website).

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:07 am
lol @ The Daily Telegraph.

Now when the “regulators” come knocking lets see them get some 1825 action:

http://www.tasmaniantimes.com/jurassic/gocpress.html

The role of newspaper proprietors and editors as scrutineers of government policy and action had its roots in the early days of Australia when several editors/proprietors were thrown into gaol in the 1820s for vigorously scrutinising government through the pages of their newspapers.

In the late 1820s Edward Smith Hall, the proprietor and editor of the Monitor, was gaoled for seditious and criminal libel after speaking out continuously against the New South Wales Government. Governor Darling warned Hall that his outspokenness and dogged persistence in criticising his Government would not be tolerated and “deliberately courted martyrdom” (Historical Records of Australia, series 1, X111, pp183 -194).

The Australian’s A.E. Hayes was also effectively gagged by the government of the day when he was gaoled for seditious libel for “having declared that the Governor, on account of his ignorance and disregard for the law, was not a fit person to rule over a British colony” (Cryle, 1997, 22).

In later years other newspaper proprietors and editors fought for freedom of the press in a climate of suppression when such strategies as prohibitive recognisances against libel and strict licensing laws saw newspapers fold.( See William Nairne Clark’s Swan River Guardian).

Too bad we don’t have the mother coutnry to rely on any more:

A protest signed by 50 leading citizens claimed that the restrictions on the press were “needless, unconstitutional and debasing – an insult to the colony, and contrary to the implied engagements of the Crown when emigration was invited”. In the meantime Bent was struggling financially to keep control of his newspaper, which he had renamed the Colonial Times. To add insult to injury Arthur decreed that convicts could not be employed in printing houses, forcing Bent to dismiss his editor, the convict novelist Henry Savery. What really galled Bent was that convicts were employed in the Government press. Arthur’s actions were nothing short of persecution. Bent lost his battle to keep the Colonial Times but kept his printing press and established a monthly news magazine The Colonial Advocate and Tasmanian Monthly Review in March 1828, thus avoiding the newspaper licence.

The settler’s petition supporting Bent and freedom of the press, after being rejected by Arthur, was sent to the Home Government and in December 1828 news was received supporting the colonists and annulling both Acts (Melville, 1835 p70). But it was too late for Bent’s Colonial Times.

Labor: Taking us back to 1850.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 1:07 am
Well done, Twostix.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 1:10 am
Also: be wary of Stephen Conroy in a public toilet.

Rough as guts, no wonder he wants the press muzzled. How embarrassing for the delicate little porcelain thug.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 1:13 am
I literally wouldn’t piss on the man if he was on fire.

tbh

13 Mar 13 at 1:20 am
NSW Police state watch:

LAWYERS will be required to outline their entire case at the outset of criminal trials under radical changes to clear the backlog in NSW courts.

Uh, ok?

Why?

Mr Smith said it would allow people to plead guilty sooner, save court time, and witnesses would not need to be called unnecessarily.

Oh. So, it’s to make it vastly easier for the government to send people to gaol.

So what else are they doing?

The government will introduce a new police caution for suspects who are over 18 and facing major criminal charges.

Suspects will be given the “evidence of silence” caution in front of a lawyer, warning them that if they raise facts in court that they did not tell police about – juries could also make an adverse finding.

“These will stop criminals using silence or surprise as a weapon,” Mr Smith said.

What’s 200 years of the right to silence when the mighty NSW Premier Barry O’Farrell is in power?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/two-new-laws-will-end-court-ambushes/story-e6freuy9-1226595954605

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 1:27 am
Miranda Devine:

IS there anything this government will not tamper with?

In its mistaken belief that more legislation equals good government we are witnessing one of the most frenetic and interventionist administrations our country has ever endured.

From sport to border protection, energy to mining, hospitals to clunker cars, live cattle exports to fishing trawlers, is there a single human endeavour in which the government leaves well enough alone?

You would think after so many policy disasters it might have the wit to temper its reforming zeal. But this government seems to be in a mad race to stamp its brand over everything, no matter how destructive, just for the satisfaction of saying “Labor was here” – before Labor becomes history.

Now it is our turn. Echoes of Bob Brown could be seen in the vindictive media regulation Communications Minister Stephen Conroy unveiled Tuesday.

This bastard child born of revenge and hubris is a threat to free speech and democracy.

Conroy’s illiberal mindset is betrayed by the fact he is determined to ram it through parliament next week. No compromises.

It was Bob Brown, enraged by criticism of Gillard’s climate change policies and deal with the Greens, who first seized on the opportunity that the British phone hacking scandal presented to cow the media at home.

Even though the disgraceful practices of Fleet Street had not occurred in Australian media, as various inquiries proved, the government was happy to follow Brown’s lead.

Who could forget Julia Gillard saying News Limited, publisher of The Daily Telegraph, had “hard questions” to answer over the UK scandal? Or Conroy claiming this paper was “running a campaign on regime change”? Or a Cabinet which reportedly discussed “going to war” with News Limited. Instead of accepting criticism and arguing its case like any government in a healthy democracy, this one uses its power to destroy critics. It seems to think it has the right to dictate news, demand journalists be sacked, and write history in its own image.

The government blames the “Murdoch media” for holding it to account. I would say its anger shows we are doing our jobs properly.

After all, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald didn’t like media scrutiny of their activities but, without a free press, ICAC would never have launched the investigations which have revealed so much alleged skullduggery in NSW.

There can be little doubt that Conroy’s sole purpose is to bully the Murdoch press into submission, just as he once boasted that he had such “unfettered legal power” over telecommunications executives that he could instruct them to “wear red underpants on your head”.
This is the minister who has no problem with the ABC and Fairfax joining forces to report stories. But the minute News Limited and Channel Ten’s Meet The Press decide to work together he wants to impose legislation to stop it.

Under this government attacks on free speech have combined in a pincer movement. Now Conroy wants to create a new layer of bureaucracy to regulate the media. His powerful Public Interest Media Advocate would be responsible for giving the media a “Heart Foundation Tick” of approval, he said yesterday.

RTWT

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 1:38 am
Suspects will be given the “evidence of silence” caution in front of a lawyer, warning them that if they raise facts in court that they did not tell police about – juries could also make an adverse finding.

“These will stop criminals using silence or surprise as a weapon,” Mr Smith said.

He means alleged criminals, right?

Turd.

O’Farrell has to go. He is an embarrassing idiot.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:45 am
Who could forget Julia Gillard saying News Limited, publisher of The Daily Telegraph, had “hard questions” to answer over the UK scandal?

Wo. WOOOOOH.

Lay off, Gab. Lay off. Chester says lay off.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:46 am
“O’Farrell has to go. He is an embarrassing idiot.”

In this particular instance, he’s being an embarrassing idiot in falling for the perpetual Laura Norder contest. Overall he’s not so bad.

Jarrah

13 Mar 13 at 1:52 am
In its mistaken belief that more legislation equals good government we are witnessing one of the most frenetic and interventionist administrations our country has ever endured.

From sport to border protection, energy to mining, hospitals to clunker cars, live cattle exports to fishing trawlers, is there a single human endeavour in which the government leaves well enough alone?

Why it’s almost like they’re trying to fundamentally change the country…almost as if they’re I dunno revolutionary.

For the Left to make any real advance all these perspectives on the relationship to Labor in government need to be rejected in favour of a concept of strategic support for Labor Governments. We need to recognise the only possibility for major social change is under a long period of Labor administration. Within that administration the Left needs to be willing to participate to shape political outcomes, recognising the need to except [accept] often unpalatable compromises in the short term to bolster the prospect of future advance. The task of pushing back current political constraints by changing public opinion would need to be tackled by the Left through government, social movements and trade unions.

– Julia Gillard

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 1:55 am
Overall he’s not so bad.

Now I know he’s an idiot.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:56 am
“Now I know he’s an idiot.”

Prove it.

Jarrah

13 Mar 13 at 2:00 am
Prove it.

Hmmm … that was CL’s point … you just did!

Nanuestalker

13 Mar 13 at 3:26 am
This brilliant ad for the Fiat 500 ShitBox has been banned by the jumped-up totalitarians at the Advertising Standards Board because it is “too sexual”. So it’s OK to annoy the hell out of people with those infernal Kia ads (and don’t get me started on radio advertising troll Frank Walker), but VE MUST SCHTAMP OUT DER TITILATION!!! The Fiat ad has been running for months on Australian TV. Story here. FFS, the Advertising Standards Bureau and Board is a voluntary regime of self-policing by the ad industry, proving just what a dangerous force committees of do-gooders can be.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 4:31 am
As I suspected, most members of the Advertising Standards Board are women and include the usual assortment of fun police types who are all too eager to plant their jackboots in society’s face.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 4:38 am
While on media, women’s newfound power to cause men endless grief by lying about sexual assault is again on display with a troll congratulating herself online after hoaxing Today Tonight.

HT Bolt

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 4:48 am
Still on media, I was relieved to see the Coalition will not let stand Mad Dog Conroy’s personal vendetta against News:

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull slammed the proposals as ”bad law,” vowing to block them now or repeal them if elected.

Nevertheless, there’s a distinct chance the changes will be signed into law and the moochers may win the battle to have the welfare gravy train re-elected in September.

Fairfax reckons Conroy’s media laws are doomed, but it is also protecting him by not making a big deal of story’s story, unlike News. ShakeMyHead.com’s big story today is about Gina and an oblique attack on Rupert’s London Sun: hatred of Gina, Rupert, Jones and Bolt provides ShakeMyHead with a daily roster of page-view bait for its unemployed Green demographic.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 5:15 am
While on media, women’s newfound power to cause men endless grief by lying about sexual assault is again on display with a troll congratulating herself online after hoaxing Today Tonight.

What the fuck has that story got to do with sexual assault?

The story here is that news programs like Today Tonight and A Current Affair are so credulous and amateur that they are regularly hoaxed by people barely out of school with no media training.

Yobbo

13 Mar 13 at 6:33 am
After seeing Latham’s rant about mental illness and betrayal, who’d vote for a Labor pary that still had him in it?

Blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 6:55 am
“We took her at face value and went to every measure to ensure her story stacked up, as we do with every guest.”

Hahahahahahaha — yeah I’ll bet Channel 7 really hunted down information meticulously about this little bint — bingo we’ve got someone for that cyberbullying story quick how can we get a camera-crew there in time today for tonight.

Channel 7 owned by an attention-seeker, who wudda thunk?

Tintarella di Luna

13 Mar 13 at 7:04 am
Taking Gillard at face value was a dangerous move for the voters in 2010. Janet Albrechtsen’s article this week strays into Danish television for an alternate take on women in politics.
Many still don’t know what the real Julia is like. You can’t help but think, though, that there’s something pathological about the clinging to power in evry circumstance, and propensity to employ spin over substance at every turn.
What’s more disturbing is that many ministerial colleagues show similar traits.

Blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 7:11 am
I wonder what Paul Kelly means by “Gillard cannot get clear air because of Rudd.”
It looks more like Gillard cannot get clear air because so much polly speak is smokescreening, and she’s created quite a bit of unclear air herself. Once again the ministerial colleagues have contributed plenty of it too. Conroy’s foolish plan needs to be dumped as quickly as possible, or it will discolour the debate all the way to the election.

Blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 7:27 am
After seeing Latham’s rant about mental illness and betrayal, who’d vote for a Labor pary that still had him in it?

I agree blogstrop and apologies to any Cat having breakfast but Kim Beazley Snr’s famous quote came to mind:

“…stop using the Labor Party as a spiritual spitoon.”

Latham is just a gob hawked up from a diseased Labor body and come Spring they’ll need a bigger spitoon.

Tintarella di Luna

13 Mar 13 at 7:31 am
Gittins has overdosed on the socialist kool aid again.
What’s an economics writer doing spouting this sort of rubbish? Shows why the ABC love him long time though.

Blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 7:33 am
The Weekend Australian had an article on Shane Mortimer last weekend.

What were they thinking? Will they have to filter all readers’ responses to avoid double litigation, both on themselves and on the readers?

Under the law of lex talionis – restricting retribution to making the punishment fit the crime – justice could be satisfied by Mortimer insulting the ‘white’ professor in turn. Not stripping him of everything he’s ever earned. So only someone with deep pockets will dare to say anything in future. Does that not make me ‘disadvantaged’?

As Shakespeare said in Measure for Measure:

ANGELO

We must not make a scarecrow of the law,
Setting it up to fear the birds of prey,
And let it keep one shape, till custom make it
Their perch and not their terror

There is an even better way:

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 1 Corinthians 13

Many of us could be deeply offended by the number 6 million; it reminds us of loved ones’ ongoing trauma because their

loved ones never returned from Auschwitz, Ravensbruck and Treblinka, because they offended someone merely by being. Not in the same league as someone saying something one didn’t like!

Readers will think but be too afraid to comment, along the lines of those who responded to Anita Heiss’s book on Amazon; Am I black enough for you?

One example, “ The book title is a rhetorical question for although it begs the question in Australia you will be taken to court if you answer the question in the negative. ” JohnE |

Denise

13 Mar 13 at 7:44 am
This one is for Jaques.
The RSS feed has been broken for a while and thunderbird gives the following error message.

Timestamp: 13/03/13 07:46:29 Error: mismatched tag. Expected: </link>. Source File: http://catallaxyfiles.com/feed/ Line: 10, Column: 3 Source Code: </head>

Preceding link tag is not closed and never closes the head section.

Frank

13 Mar 13 at 7:56 am
I suppose that the following applies. Under Conroy’s proposed Gag, the reporting of the outburst from the Gallery at Parliament yesterday would be forbidden.

Therefore I would only be able to read the sanitised version of Hansard.

Mike of Marion

13 Mar 13 at 8:10 am
The Conroy of No Competence.

Leigh Lowe

13 Mar 13 at 8:27 am
Overall he’s not so bad.

Now I know he’s an idiot.

Ha ha ha!

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 8:34 am
Again.
It merely takes the burning of one to focus the minds of many.
Reintroduce burning for serious antisocial behaviour.
Try him
If convicted, burn him publicly.
Fear directs one to morality where one has none of one’s own.

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 8:35 am
The Weekend Australian had an article on Shane Mortimer last weekend.
I took it as a sly dig- it points out how not knowing that he was “an aborigine” until he was 34, he now prates about the “spirit woman” dwelling in Canberra’s hills and conducts “welcome to country” ceremonies for coin of the realm. Just presenting the facts unvarnished either way invites ridicule.

Cold-Hands

13 Mar 13 at 8:40 am
It’s simply unbelievable that this is happening, made even worse, even more insulting and infuriating by the fact that these lobotomised fascist thugs weren’t even elected in the first place.

FFS, what an unctious li’l fascist dweeb – conboy’s problem is that he wasn’t dosed with enough nuclear milk as a kiddie.

This shameful experiment in government by unelected totalitarian imbeciles really needs to end and yesterday.

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 8:43 am
I took it as a sly dig- it points out how not knowing that he was “an aborigine” until he was 34, he now prates about the “spirit woman” dwelling in Canberra’s hills*…

Seriously, if you didn’t know otherwise, you’d assume it was parody – I’m still not convinced it isn’t!

*WTF?

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 8:45 am
Interesting tht The Australian has an article noting a license fee cut to Free to Air networks (i.e. Conroy has again been transferring public assets to the publically listed companies)…

Networks score on licence fee cuts

…but the article does not drill down on the topic in the article.

Token

13 Mar 13 at 8:55 am
Compare and contrast how this meddling of government to control and pick winners has totally misunderstood the way the media industry is going.

This is the reality facing the TV industry in the US:

Nielsen is rethinking how it measures television viewing.

Responding to pressure from the television industry, the ratings company is making a bigger push to measure viewing in a way that reflects the different means by which television content is distributed and consumed in the digital age.

The first step for Nielsen is to redefine what it considers a “television home.” Starting this fall, homes that receive content on their television through video-game consoles or through broadband connections will be included in its sample. In the past, Nielsen only counted viewing that was done either through an over-the-air antenna or via a pay-TV provider such as a satellite broadcaster or cable company.

Media is being delivered by so many forms that the government will have to impose totalitarian walls (i.e. the Great Firewall of China) which muzzle as they can’t stop the global innovation.

Token

13 Mar 13 at 8:58 am
Networks score on licence fee cuts

Tokes, I’m beginning to think that they’ll be deader than dodos before fauxfacts, the way technology and televised meeja interfaces are advancing.

Personally, I avoid FTA television like the plague.

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 9:01 am
Seems voter intimidation in the US is a real concern, with the US Department of Justice actively working to support the bad guys:

The report was prepared in response to Representative Frank Wolf’s (R-VA) outrage over the New Black Panther voter intimidation dismissal. In response to the report, Rep. Wolf said today, the “report makes clear that the division has become a rat’s nest of unacceptable and unprofessional actions, and even outright threats against career attorneys and systemic mismanagement.”

The need to support voter intimidation is so imbedded in the US DoJ such that:

– Report: “We were surprised and dismayed at the amount of blatantly partisan political commentary that we found in e-mails sent by some Voting Section employees on Department computers.”

– “Numerous witnesses told us that there was widespread opposition to the Noxubee case among the Voting Section career staff.” Noxubee was a case in which white voters were victimized.

– DOJ employees opposed the bringing of a case against a black defendant to help white victims in Noxubee County, Mississippi.

The report: “Coates and other career attorneys told the OIG that they were aware of comments by some Voting Section attorneys indicating that the Noxubee case should have never been brought because White citizens were not historical victims of discrimination or could fend for themselves. Indeed, two career Voting Section attorneys told us that, even if the Department had infinite resources, they still would not have supported the filing of the Noxubee case because it was contrary to the purpose of the Voting Rights Act, which was to ensure that minorities who had historically been the victims of discrimination could exercise the right to vote.”

– Threats were made to African American employees by other Justice Department staff.

The threats were made because the black employees were willing to work on cases like the New Black Panther voter intimidation case and a case in Mississippi involving a black wrongdoer and a white victim. I testified about this disgusting hostility toward race-neutral enforcement of the law, and today’s report confirms it took place.

So what is US Atorney General Eric Holder’s position?

– Attorney General Eric Holder was approached by Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King: King complained about cases that Voting Section Chief Chris Coates was bringing. Coates had brought and managed the New Black Panther voter intimidation case.

Holder greenlighted King: do what was necessary to take care of Coates.

Token

13 Mar 13 at 9:10 am
Why not add them up and get a huge sample?

Newspoll 1200 polled, 48 52

Morgan 4627, 42.5 57.5

Essential 1948, 45 55

Galaxy 1010, 45 55

Total 8785 polled, Labor 44.1, Coalition 55.9

Of course it is dominated by the huge Morgan poll but the statistical error drops from 5% for Newpolls to 1%.

HT Bolt.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 9:13 am
The liberals lost the plot on tv with their myopic decision about web casting. Take a bow Richard Alston.

Keith

13 Mar 13 at 9:14 am
Tokes, I’m beginning to think that they’ll be deader than dodos before fauxfacts, the way technology and televised meeja interfaces are advancing.

Personally, I avoid FTA television like the plague.

Conroy wants to accelerate the process by putting legal barriers in the way of organising pooling resources and from purchasing operations which will soon be commercially vulnerable (like the country TV networks).

Token

13 Mar 13 at 9:18 am
The House of Gerrymander looks like it may benefit the conservatives in the short term:

TONY Abbott is on the verge of winning enough Senate votes to abolish the carbon tax and potentially the mining tax, and implement a royal commission into the unions.

An analysis of voting trends and the latest opinion polls published by The Australian show Labor is in danger of losing four and possibly six Senate seats, which would hand the balance of power to independents rather than the Greens.

Based on published polling, the Coalition appears poised to win at least 36 seats, which would hand the DLP’s John Madigan, South Australian independent Nick Xenophon and a Katter candidate from Queensland the balance of power on controversial legislation opposed by Labor and the Greens.

Labor is in danger of losing Senate seats in NSW, Queensland, Tasmania, Victoria and potentially South Australia.

But odd things could happen:

While the Greens could lose the balance of power, they appear on track to gain three seats to take their total representation to 12 in the Senate, based on the December quarterly Newspoll. But if the 3.9 per cent swing against the Greens in the WA election was repeated, it could save Labor’s second SA seat and its second seat in Queensland.

RTWT

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 9:35 am
test

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 9:58 am
Warmie alarmist film bombing at the box office.

Rafe

13 Mar 13 at 9:59 am
Balls! Response to Andrew Bolt

Rafe

13 Mar 13 at 10:02 am
Balls!

Well may you laugh, Rafe, but the point is they’re not the normal sized kangaroo scrotums, I tells ya!

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 10:16 am
Commie filth Doug Cameron on ABC24 behind Conroy’s restriction of the free press. He cits News Limited as the reason.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 10:26 am
Cameron says Turnbull and News Limited response to restricting the free press by government oversight is “hysterical”.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 10:27 am
Time for me to offer a cheery “Good Morning, Tom!” to my biggest fan.

And by the way, semi regular commenter John (with all the biomedical info) has commented at my blog last night and noted in passing that he has been banned from here, and would like it to be mentioned so that the reason for his absence is known.

steve from brisbane

13 Mar 13 at 10:28 am
I don’t believe John H has been banned from here, SFB. I think he’s being a drama queen.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 10:37 am
Commie filth Doug Cameron on ABC24 behind Conroy’s restriction of the free press. He cits News Limited as the reason.

Two failed pom’s escape to the colony and start pushing us around.

cits News Limited as the reason.

So it really simply is just a paranoid, hated, thugish government overtly passing laws to censor and intimidate its biggest critic immediately before an election.

If this is what they’re doing in month two, what are they going to be doing in month four?

I said it before and I’ll say it again: The most dangerous time in Australia’s history.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 10:38 am
cites

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 10:38 am
All you need to know about Mark Latham is this: he has one ball.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 10:40 am
I said it before and I’ll say it again: The most dangerous time in Australia’s history.

Careful stix – you’ll be accusing them of wanting to suspend democracy next and we know how upset some bedwetters here get about that concept being bandied around!

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 10:42 am
A mad Russian friend only has one ball. Legacy of a boozy night at the Pine Inn Hotel in Burwwod, drank the Inn dry of vodka, later meeting up with a coat hanger aerial on a Torana, way back when. Just thought I’d share.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 10:47 am
Gab, we used to get pissed at the Pine back in year 12 and after the HSC!

However, no one ended losing a testicle – at least that we were aware of…

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 10:50 am
Down the bottom, Fairfax’s most viewed LifeStyle articles.

e.g.

SMH Top 5 LifeStyle articles
Virgo
Capricorn
Gemini
Leo
Pisces

Harold

13 Mar 13 at 10:50 am
Before your time, Rabzie lad. Besides, the testicular trauma occurred in the park under the Gladesville bridge later that night.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 10:52 am
An Afghan asylum seeker living in the community while awaiting deportation is facing child sex charges after he allegedly indecently assaulted two boys at a public swimming pool in Seville Grove.

Armadale detectives allege Ali Khan Ibrahimi groped the boys, aged 11 and 14, in a pool at Armadale Aquatic Centre on a Sunday afternoon in January. The boys reported the incident to a lifeguard and centre staff notified police.

Mr Ibrahimi, a father of three young children, arrived on Christmas Island by boat last year. The Immigration Department had refused him a protection visa, despite his fears of persecution by the Taliban, but he had been allowed to live in the community while waiting to be sent home.

He is now in an immigration detention centre and will face court next month on a charge of indecent dealing with a child under 13 and indecent dealing with a child over 13 and under 16.

Well done, Labor.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 11:00 am
Careful stix – you’ll be accusing them of wanting to suspend democracy next and we know how upset some bedwetters here get about that concept being bandied around!

They’ll do something like using a referendum on changing the constitution to recognise the “first people” to cleverly stage a coup by abusing the legal process ditching the whole thing and writing a new one or using it to tack a nightmare bill of “Human Rights” through too.

Correa’s Ecuador is their model.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa

Same war with the Media:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa#Relationship_with_the_media

Tricky Coup as a template:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa#2008_Constitution

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 11:03 am
Michael O’Brien is the new Treasurer for Victoria

Andrew

13 Mar 13 at 11:06 am
Kim Wells is Police Minister, Ryan is regional Development Minister.

Andrew

13 Mar 13 at 11:07 am
Hitler’s ball-shortage was immortalised in the British Army WW2 marching song, “Hitler Has Only Got One Ball”.The chorus goes on to reveal the extent of the equipment carried by his fellow Socialists,Himmler,Goring,Goebbels etc.Our very own Socialists ,Conroy, Shorten,Emerson ,Rudd etc provide comfortable substitutes.

Lew

13 Mar 13 at 11:09 am
GetUp! ‘caught red-handed’

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 11:15 am
GetUp! ‘caught red-handed’

Let me guess, Slimy Shake was going to address the troops on why the only good voter is a Green voter.

Keith

13 Mar 13 at 11:20 am
John H banned? I very much doubt this. Sinc?

dover_beach

13 Mar 13 at 11:35 am
I’m stunned that John H commented on SFB’s blog.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 11:39 am
Mr Sheikh was the groups’s national director until leaving late last year to become the lead ACT Senate candidate for the Greens.

He denied at the time his preselection proved opposition charges that GetUp! was a front for Labor and the Greens

Indeed – I simply can’t understand how that perception might arise. /sarc off/

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 11:41 am
I have been reading and chatting with various peolpe recently and I think that, surprisingly, even in the ACT people have had enough of Gillard. My problem is that many of these people now think “she” is the problem not the ALP.

I think that if you deal with people around the place it is important to link the two. Gillard is implementing ALP policy. The ALP is not implementing Gillard’s policies.

This may well be a tactic which will pay off if they do the leader change. I note Paul Kelly today states that Rudd may not be able to escape Gillard’s legacy if he becomes leader.

The ALP legacy!!

dismissive

13 Mar 13 at 11:41 am
~~peolpe~~ people

dismissive

13 Mar 13 at 11:42 am
John H banned? I very much doubt this. Sinc?

Self confessed genius, John H is probably confusing the Wrordpress error message with him being banned.

Infidel Tiger

13 Mar 13 at 11:43 am
Dr Laura Beth Buugg, a sociologist, is currently complaining that the Catholic Church believes in old tradition, which ought to be broken!

Dr. Bugg’s research interests are the intersection of religion, place and welfare governance. She is particularly interested in the experiences of new immigrant groups in the establishment of places of worship and religious schools, and the ways in which contestations around minority places of worship and schools are mediated and controlled by local governance processes. Recent research projects have examined forms of social organization and belonging in transnational migrant religious communities in Australia and comparative research on faith-based asylum-seeker welfare organisations in Australia and the UK that examines the way in which FBOs address the religious experience and cultural specificity of asylum seekers in program delivery.

Cardinals are all men! Shocking.
If the Church were more modern, she opines, it would thrive!

Deadman

13 Mar 13 at 11:47 am
On our ABC, of course.

Deadman

13 Mar 13 at 11:47 am
I have been reading and chatting with various peolpe recently and I think that, surprisingly, even in the ACT people have had enough of Gillard. My problem is that many of these people now think “she” is the problem not the ALP.

Yes I have seen the same phenomenon. That hate Gillard but still love the ALP.

The same ALP that gave them Latham, Rudd, rolled Rudd then gave them Gillard.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 11:48 am
If you want to play with a poll …
Here is one at the SMH.

dismissive

13 Mar 13 at 11:51 am
UK that examines the way in which FBOs address the religious experience and cultural specificity of asylum seekers in program delivery

Orwell was an amateur.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 11:51 am
If you want to play with a poll …
Here is one at the SMH.

At least they’re moving into the acceptance phase – the final stage of the lefts grief that they are politically dead.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 11:56 am
Middle-class celebrity socialists like Paul Krugman have got nothing on colonial fruitcake communist John Quiggan, recently appointed to the Australian Climate Change Authority:

After decades of retreat in the face of a resurgent finance capitalism, the Left can no longer rely on the idea that the victory of the working class is inevitable, and that we should focus on organising to hasten its arrival . . . Now that finance capitalism is in crisis, and its failure to deliver its promises is evident to anyone willing to look, the possibilities for progress are opening up once again. . . . critical analysis of capitalism is no longer enough. If critical analysis were enough to bring about radical change, a socialist utopia would have arrived long ago . . . Ackerman is also right to focus on feasible steps towards a radically transformed society . . . Ackerman’s discussion of the failure of Soviet central planning, and its implications, is accurate . . . The central problems weren’t poor productivity, bad incentives or distorted prices . . . I have made some attempts to describe the kind of direction in which we should go and it is, in essence, a return to the social democratic project of decommodification, and, in particular, a drastic reduction in the average hours of market work required of people . . . The answer is not to tame financial markets . . . but to cut them down to size. A prerequisite for any positive program is a comprehensive attack on the power of financial markets . . .

If there was ever any doubt that global warmening was primarily a UN-sponsored political doctrine designed to bring down capitalism through gravy trains like the Glimate Gommission, this idiot is a fabulous advertisement. Check out this star cast of rent-seekers.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 12:01 pm
Reminder: Human Achievement Hour is coming up in 2 weeks

Andrew

13 Mar 13 at 12:06 pm
Laura Beth Bugg must have copped a lot of “hey, Bed Bug!” at school. Unless she married a Bugg. Perhaps ne Laura Norder?

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 12:22 pm
On the ABC this morning, brave Adele Ferguson shews what wordsmiths those Fairfax journalists are; on principle, she bravely asserts, she won’t reveal her sources to evil Mrs Rinehart who wouldn’t sign, um, clauses or something, as articulate Adele puts it, in favour of editorial independence, so, “the proof is in the pudding”. Ha! Take that, wicked million-heiress!

Deadman

13 Mar 13 at 12:31 pm
Woops, I mixed up the Climate Change Authority and the Climate Commission — there’s a different zombie bureaucracy for every day of the week!

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 12:33 pm
Dr Laura Beth Bugg, authoress of “Religion on the fringe: the representation of space and minority religious facilities in the rural-urban fringe of metropolitan Sydney, Australia”, is married to Bryan Gaensler, author of Extreme Cosmos, who believes all the right things:

Ever since the Tampa affair, the former Young Australian of the Year has been stewing. [He] led a group of 137 of Australia’s brightest expatriates in writing an open letter to Prime Minister John Howard criticizing his stand on asylum seekers, and decrying that “Australia’s international standing as an open and tolerant nation has been compromised”. The letter castigated “the Government’s use of language that dehumanizes and vilifies refugees trying to escape persecution”.

Deadman

13 Mar 13 at 12:40 pm
Echoing Tom’s comments (@4.31am)..

If the Fiat 500 Aberth ad is verboten for it’s sexual overtones, what does the Advertising Standards Board think about the multiple giant ‘WANT BETTER SEX?’ billboards being erected alongside freeways all over Melbourne (and no doubt Sydney, brisbane, et al)..

At least my 6yo son thinks the Fiat ad is funny, but try explaining those billboards to him…

Brian of Moorabbin

13 Mar 13 at 1:00 pm
Further to the Fiat ad, what about the ad on TV with the blonde dressed up as ‘Genie’ from the old TV show flogging those ‘dissolving mouth strips’ for better sexual performance?

I know they only run after about 9pm at night, but surely they are as ‘itittilating’ and overtly sexual as the Fiat ad..

Advertising DoubleStandards Board…

Brian of Moorabbin

13 Mar 13 at 1:04 pm
Self confessed genius, John H is probably confusing the Wrordpress error message with him being banned.

Too much choof can make one paranoid.

Token

13 Mar 13 at 1:05 pm
Jew hatred condemned in San Francisco ad campaign…

Public officials, Democrats condemn campaign as ‘Islamaphobic.’

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) – A controversy has been re-ignited this week as ten new ads go up on San Francisco Muni buses containing quotes used by terrorists.

“Killing Jews is worship that draws us closer to Allah,” reads one of the ads, which has people debating the line between free speech and hate speech.

“The purpose of our campaign is to show the reality of Jihad, the root causes of terrorism. Using the exact quotes and text that they use,” said Pamela Geller of the American Freedom Defense Institute.

Several San Francisco city leaders, including District Attorney George Gascon, have condemned the campaign.

“San Francisco won’t tolerate Islamophobic bigotry,” said Gascon. “The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to look the other way and do nothing.”

Board of Supervisors President David Chiu said the American Freedom Defense Initiative is made of “well-known hate extremists” and said he is introducing a resolution at Tuesday’s board meeting to denounce the ads.

Geller said the ads were a response to another bus ad campaign earlier this year by the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

That campaign sought to disassociate the word “jihad” with violence and reclaim its meaning as “the struggle,” which is a central tenet of Islam.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:05 pm
Damn typos… I blame still being awake 5 hours after finishing a 12-hour night shift…

Normally mi speling is muhc beter then thatt….

Brian of Moorabbin

13 Mar 13 at 1:06 pm
what does the Advertising Standards Board think about the multiple giant ‘WANT BETTER SEX?’ billboards being erected alongside freeways all over Melbourne

Brian, I think it definitely calls into question the role that Tony Abbott is playing.

Rabz

13 Mar 13 at 1:06 pm
…have got nothing on colonial fruitcake communist John Quiggan…

Isn’t that quote fascinating.

After decades of retreat in the face of a resurgent finance capitalism, the Left can no longer rely on the idea that the victory of the working class is inevitable, and that we should focus on organising to hasten its arrival…

Reading it you can see why M0nty, the Steves and the other lefty trolls go there slag of the Cat with their kindred spirits…

Token

13 Mar 13 at 1:08 pm
Normally mi speling is muhc beter then thatt…. Sure it is. You keep telling yourself that, pretty boy.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 1:08 pm
Big punch up outside Liam Jarrah’s court case.

Harold

13 Mar 13 at 1:24 pm
Baseballers – notoriously tetchy – OK about interference with play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjHSbyJuPY

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:28 pm
Catallaxy’s daily breakdown underway!

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 1:35 pm
Conroy’s hacking the Cat!!!!!

Mike of Marion

13 Mar 13 at 4:36 pm
Big punch up outside Liam Jarrah’s court case.

Why am i not shocked.

Carpe Jugulum

13 Mar 13 at 4:36 pm
and furthermore you lying, mendacious piece of…..

?

where did everybody go ?

Oh drat.

Myrrdin Seren

13 Mar 13 at 4:38 pm
where did everybody go ?

*waves enthusiastically*

Yoo Hoo, over here.

Carpe Jugulum

13 Mar 13 at 4:41 pm
Terry Mills, Chief Minister for the Northern Territory has been axed. Adam Giles will be the first Indigenous leader of a state of Territory, becoming the Chief Minister of Northern Territory.

Andrew

13 Mar 13 at 4:42 pm
Maryland joins the contest for the silliest investment in Green energy.

Just a Democrat positioning himself to run for the White House in 2016.

Rafe

13 Mar 13 at 4:48 pm
“Terry Mills, Chief Minister for the Northern Territory has been axed…”

A bit of a worry.

The Mighty Demon Liam Jarrah is in court on a charge related to that kind of thing.

Maybe axeing politicians is ok.

Rafe

13 Mar 13 at 4:51 pm
Adam Giles will be the first Indigenous leader of a state of Territory, becoming the Chief Minister of Northern Territory.

From Kalumburu to Canberra, lefty heads explode:

The news comes as former Chief Minister Terry Mills is in Japan meeting with Inpex executives to discuss job opportunities for Territorians.

Mr Mills has been informed of the coup but no one from the Government has made any official statement.

Mr Giles will be the first indigenous leader of a government in Australia’s history.

The coup ends weeks of internal jostling within the CLP.

Sources have told the NT News Mr Mills’ leadership was doomed after the four members of the Bush Coalition – Alison Anderson, Bess Price, Francis Xavier and Larisa Lee – shifted their support to Mr Mills.

If Giles turns out half-competent, the CLP has the moral high ground and Labor is out in the cold for at least two terms.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 5:08 pm
If Giles turns out half-competent, the CLP has the moral high ground and Labor is out in the cold for at least two terms.

Leaving aside they are shameless hypocrits, the ALP will have a hard time attacking this considering the way the PM is trying to shoe-horn Novis Peris into the Labor senate position.

Token

13 Mar 13 at 5:19 pm
Sad to say Tom, NT is now lead by dumb and dumber – and Giles is a blow in from Redfern a bit like obumma. Colour does not mean competent..

Fed up CLP voter

13 Mar 13 at 5:22 pm
I have an iPad. Brace you selfs.

Pickles

13 Mar 13 at 5:24 pm
Mr Ann Summers uncovers a new Alene Composta. Or has he?

Before you start laughing – you are paying for that. It makes me long for the days of quality comediennes like Catherine Deveny.

H B Bear

13 Mar 13 at 5:32 pm
iPad equalls typos, Mr Pickles … selfs, lol

Helen Armstrong

13 Mar 13 at 5:35 pm
like I can talk equalls!

Helen Armstrong

13 Mar 13 at 5:36 pm
Dem ipads thingys are demonic for typos.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 5:46 pm
Fed Up, I’d guessed there was no leadership material waiting in the wings. If he stuff up fiscal management, he and his administration will be one-termers.

Tom

13 Mar 13 at 6:18 pm
Hmm. Computers might suck a bit, but I have to agree with Jacques about WordPress. Every time there’s a wordpress problem here I have to completely clear the cache or I get the ‘Broken Ozblogistan’ page.

Mk50 of Brisbane

13 Mar 13 at 6:24 pm
Pickles, you are so screwed.

When are you next in town?

Mk50 of Brisbane

13 Mar 13 at 6:24 pm
Vital medical research in the US.

Toiling Mass

13 Mar 13 at 6:36 pm
Leaving aside they are shameless hypocrits, the ALP will have a hard time attacking this considering the way the PM is trying to shoe-horn Novis Peris into the Labor senate position.

The ALP has absolutely no qualms with being hypocrits and applying double-standards to other people’s behaviour compared to their own. Indeed, anyone who dares point it out is immediately declaimed as a ‘right-wing nutter’ or similar…

Just take a look back at last week where the various Leftists on this blog (and at Bolta’s) were shrilly squealing the ALP meme (as supplied by Danial Andrews) that the change in leadership in Victoria from Ballieui to Napthine meant that we had to go to the polls as “Napthine wasn’t elected by the people”…

… conveniently forgetting Brumby taking over from Bracks, Kirner taking over from Cain.. and let’s not even get into the political handball of the NSW Premier post within the ALP after Carr was dumped..

Brian of Moorabbin

13 Mar 13 at 6:41 pm
no leadership material waiting in the wings

Dead right there, Tom, and there is a lot to play out yet. Having lanced the boil the puss will continue to flow. Dave is using Adam as a useful idiot, and I believe that Alison may be playing both of them for useful idiots. They forget she has played indigenous politics all her life, and that is much dirtier than union politics.

Giles is speaking now, ‘he is truly humbled’ ‘Thanks Terry for doing a good job’ ‘thanks Robyn, she did a good job too’ ‘it is great to stand here as CM’ ?if they were all so good, why the change? LOL

I shake my head at the stupidity of it all. Terry was in Japan making great progress at very high level talks and he has had to can them all catch a plane in a few minutes. These galahs just don’t think in the big picture, but I’d feel confident they are very familiar with their image in the mirror and the state of their navel fluff.

All those hours down Mitchell street boozing and plotting have paid off – for the short term. No betting the honeymoon period will be short term, too.

Fed up CLP voter

13 Mar 13 at 6:51 pm
Anthony Sharwood, in the DT, “Tears flow freely as US lab chimps see sky for the first time”:

A heartbreaking video released by America’s Humane Society has captured the moment when a troupe of lab chimps see the sky and feel the bare earth for the first time.
A warning before you watch the video. You’re going to need a really big box of tissues. Seriously, grab the biggest box of Kleenex in the room and put it on your desk.
Actually, get a towel. Then watch the video.
If you’re a little short on patience or time, forward to the moment when a chimp who’s been a lab animal its whole life turns and looks at the sky for the very first time ever.
The confused yet awestruck look on its face is priceless.
Then there’s the moment about 20 second later when a chimp pats another one on the back and rubs it in a movingly human gesture.

A gesture common to all primates is “a movingly human gesture”?

And they call them animals.

Perhaps because they are animals—as are we—; but what would you call them, Anthony? Diegetic anosognosiae, Sir Oran Haut-ton, Bt., or watermelons?

Perhaps the real animals are us [sic], for keeping these beautiful, intelligent creatures in cages for much of their lives.

Hey, sooky, alleged journalist, I’m not keeping any animal in a cage. Speak for yourself.

Deadman

13 Mar 13 at 7:04 pm
Friday

Pickles

13 Mar 13 at 7:19 pm
Infidel,

I’ve been thinking about the revolution and the public hangings.

Instead of hanging them all, why not put them all in a huge line, give them all peddle pushers and get all to start producing carbon free energy for the rest of us?

Why not?

JC

13 Mar 13 at 7:23 pm
Sales is attacking the DT on the 7.30 Report because of its front page photo.

dover_beach

13 Mar 13 at 7:49 pm
No
Use them as an organ farm
That we we drink all the booze we like and get free kidneys and livers

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 7:51 pm
Sales is attacking the DT on the 7.30 Report because of its front page photo.

She’s such a good pet for Labor, isn’t she? I’ll watch it later and am sure to have a good laugh.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 7:54 pm
When the Libs are back in power free speech will be important again

Tal

13 Mar 13 at 8:00 pm
Sales is attacking the DT on the 7.30 Report because of its front page photo.

A government journalist is attacking a private newspaper in line with her government masters wishes to muzzle the private newspaper.

News at 11.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 8:01 pm
When the Libs are back in power free speech will be important again

It’ll be all catholic fascists this and right wing nazi’s that.

But it won’t matter.

Last time the libs took power there had been a twenty years since the last time the left were in power showing their disgusting hypocrisy and incompetence in all its glory.

We’re all still going to be around next year to shove their “but what about freespeech” down their throats when Abbott sells the ABC to Rupert for $1.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 8:05 pm
Well then – Gee rupert isnt going to deliver any free speech is he? At least not any stuff that criticises him.

However on a brighter note if Rupe takes over the ABC you will all get more infotainment ie who is wearing what in Hollywood, who is shagging who, who got arrested for drugs and when, and and who is divorcing who, how much they paid and who gets the kids??

Any happier??

Aliice

13 Mar 13 at 8:09 pm
Yes, Sales is on a very high horse on this one. As if the ABC didn’t push the boundaries with their characterisation of conservatives. In fact a playwright married to an ABC personality wrote the scurrilous “Two Brothers”, an ardent attack on the Howard/Costello government over boat people, up top and including assertions that a minister in that government might order the navy not to pick up distressed, shipwrecked survivors. Where is the condemnation of that bit of “tabloid” live drama from the ABC?
Instead we got further accusations from at least one journalist closely associated with the ABC that the Howard government was actively crushing dissent.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 8:12 pm
For how long?

Mk50 of Brisbane

13 Mar 13 at 8:14 pm
And Alice, give it up if you can’t recognise and comment on reality instead of the conspiracy theories and crap characterisation of the News Ltd mob.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 8:15 pm
Oh dear pardon me for noticing Rupes shortcomings Blog (and I dont even have my specs on – would you like to borrow mine blind one?).

BTW he dictched the redhead (not that redhead) who was doing his bidding and spying on people…

Apparentky the wily old bastard didnt know.

Bullshit and Rebekah is heading for jail when it should be him.

Aliice

13 Mar 13 at 8:22 pm
You’re raving again, which is why people here tend not to take you seriously. Commenting the way you do is a waste of time and space unless you lift the game a tad.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 8:23 pm
Strop

You noticed the conversation about Leigh (the skull) Sales taking sides?

JC

13 Mar 13 at 8:26 pm
Ms Sales was getting all hot in the tubes at the DT editor on 730.
Marr et al were outraged at Howard “silencing dissent” but when pressed it turned out that “silencing dissent” was, in fact, the Government not funding the dissenters to produce their dissenting views.
Compare and contrast Marr’s response when confronted with a genuine attempt to silence opponents.

Leigh Lowe

13 Mar 13 at 8:28 pm
Some nights the skull seems to be looking towards her record, giving a bit of curry to the ALP. Not that she’s done it too often until recently, when the writing was seen to be on the wall – indelibly.
Tonight was not one of those nights.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 8:30 pm
Blog – let me make myself plainer. Rupe isnt any bastion of free speech. What morte can I say to someone who doesnt get it anyway?

Aliice

13 Mar 13 at 8:32 pm
Allice check your spelling darls

Tal

13 Mar 13 at 8:33 pm
Have a look at the lineup in The Australian, Alice. They have the best record for showing multiple points of view. Thanks in no small part to the excellent work of Tom Switzer, now with the Spectator.
Why am I asking you to do the bleeding obvious?
It’s me, not you, I fear, that’s wasting effort here.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 8:36 pm
Getting back to my earlier comment, you can feel the approbrium (not!) in an interview between Faine of the ABC and Rayson at this roundup of commentary on the SIEVx.
There’s also a transcript of an interview between Cassidy and Costello from an Insiders show back then. Once again, no condemnation for the mischaracterisation from Barrie.

blogstrop

13 Mar 13 at 8:49 pm
Alice..the new improved Rupert ABC reporting on who is shagging who? Don’t think the ALP will like that. As for the drugs etc etc..

Steve of Glasshouse

13 Mar 13 at 8:52 pm
Watching Sales interview the guy from News on ABC News24. This is awesome, it’s going to raise the profile of free speech in people’s minds.

I would say this is a great coup by News. They’ve got their position promoted to everybody – through the DT and now the ABC – as the election campaign (…I mean ‘governing’ campaign) just starts to ramp up. Furthermore, he got a heap of great one-liners into the public mindset, like this is the only time in Australian history outside of wartime that a government has sought to control the free media.

John Mc

13 Mar 13 at 8:53 pm
like this is the only time in Australian history outside of wartime that a government has sought to control the free media.

They need to point out the fact that the last time somebody tried we were still a bunch of penal colonies under the control of military dictators.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 9:14 pm
Well then – Gee rupert isnt going to deliver any free speech is he? At least not any stuff that criticises him.

*facepalm*

Rupert can’t “deliver” free speech because rupert is a private citizen and can’t “take away” free speech.

Get it alice?

The only people in the entire country who can “deliver” or take away “free speech” are the people who are currently assaulting the notion of it from all sides.

You really need to get it through your thick head: Rupert Murdoch has no power to do anything except speak just like you.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 9:18 pm
Murdoch is not obliged to be balanced or fair. Not obliged to not promote the burning of Socialists and other facist scum.
Free speech means he can be as vitriolic and biasedly foul as he wants, because any idiots that are so stupid as to not want socialists burned in public are quite entitled and able to try and make a case against burning.
That is what free speech is about.
And when Conroy takes it away, I will shudder in bliss at the agonies that he will endure from the Abbott government. Year after year after year.
The proper bounds on newspaper positions are the what sells and what does not sell bounds. Nothing else

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 9:32 pm
Lucky Sydney. Down there they have a tower at each end of the bridge. So they will have somewhere to put up the heads.

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 9:34 pm
Good interview with Billy Beane, Oakland’s Baseball manager. Moneeyball was based on Billy.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/off-the-cuff/moneyball-beane-business-baseball-changed-forever-223849056.html

JC

13 Mar 13 at 11:09 pm
Hansonite Gillard to escalate Labor’s war on non-whites:

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard will today ramp up her campaign against foreign workers, declaring she will not apologise to critics of the government’s crackdown because it’s socially and economically responsible.

In a speech to an Australian Council of Trade Unions summit, Ms Gillard will argue the merits of the crackdown on 457 visas on the basis of data showing a 20 per cent increase in temporary workers this year while employment growth was only 1 per cent.

She will say there is clear evidence in some sectors importing workers was a substitute for spreading important economic opportunity to Australian working people.

The race war, the speech and press bans, the endless lies…

We’ve never seen anything like this in our history.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 11:19 pm
I could have plenty to say, but it’s been a long day at work, still 5 hours to go, and I’ll save it for the (certain to be coming) special thread on “Gillard White Australia Policy/457 visas”.

Steve at the Pub

13 Mar 13 at 11:22 pm
PRIME Minister Julia Gillard will today ramp up her campaign against foreign workers, declaring she will not apologise to critics of the government’s crackdown because it’s socially and economically responsible.

Disgusting goddamn racist whore.

Infidel Tiger

13 Mar 13 at 11:26 pm
Stupid bitch
There are 10 or 15 million workers. So one percent is a hundred thousand or hundred fifty thousands of workers.
The 20 percent of 457s is stuff all. A few thou.
The two figures are irrelevant.
How cretinously retarded can a lying adultering racist facilitator of strangely missing paperwork be and still be left unconfined.

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 11:30 pm
Respect IT.
You said all I did but in only four words

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 11:31 pm
We’ve never seen anything like this in our history

Is Australia finally growing up? It is clearly our first Junta and quite soon we will have our first revolution.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 11:32 pm
These days, the tag, Lying Slapper, seems far too tame.

JC

13 Mar 13 at 11:32 pm
Still waiting for any shred of evidence that he did not die of shame.

WhaleHunt Fun

13 Mar 13 at 11:33 pm
Well “Duckbum” is a compliment these days.

Gab

13 Mar 13 at 11:35 pm
GatewayPundit – PAPER NIGHTMARE! 20,000 Pages of Federal Regulations Create Obamacare Tower (Photo)

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) tweeted out this photo today of what he described as a #RedTapeTower – nearly 20,000 pages of #Obamacare regulations versus the original #Obamacare bill.

Mitch McConnell added this on his Facebook page:

Just take a look at this giant stack: one day’s worth of ObamaCare regulations. 828 pages in one day. Overall, there are nearly 20,000 pages – with many, many more to come. This is the owner’s manual for the health care law that’s supposed to make things better. Are you kidding? This law is a disaster waiting to happen.

ObamaCare is just too expensive, and it’s not working the way Washington Democrats promised. That’s why ObamaCare needs to be repealed. And that’s why I will continue to push for its repeal.

JamesK

13 Mar 13 at 11:36 pm
Still waiting for any shred of evidence that he did not die of shame.

Why assume that? The apple doesn’t always fall that far from the tree.

JC

13 Mar 13 at 11:37 pm
Labor relying on racism to win votes:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/labor-taps-resentment-on-457-visas-20130313-2g0so.html

If the Liberals aren’t doing everything they can to tell our Asian communities what this filthy malignant racist whore and her depraved party are up to then they should be shot.

Enough is enough.

Infidel Tiger

13 Mar 13 at 11:38 pm
PRIME Minister Julia Gillard will today ramp up her campaign against foreign workers

No wonder Pauline’s considering another run.

twostix

13 Mar 13 at 11:39 pm
Oakeshott claims he’ll sink press ban:

INDEPENDENT MP Rob Oakeshott says he will not bow to the Government’s ultimatum to pass its controversial media overhaul.

Labor figures last night said they believed the plan now faced defeat or being shelved as Mr Oakeshott’s crucial vote could be enough to sink it.

Mr Oakeshott is angry at what he described as Communications Minister Stephen Conroy’s “take it or leave it” demand that MPs approve legislation they have not yet seen by the end of next week without the chance to change it. “I’ll probably leave it,” he said.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 11:47 pm
Um, just a thought: don’t publicise CSI tracking strategies.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 11:49 pm
Oakeshott claims he’ll sink press ban:

Doesn’t matter. Katter has agreed to back it, so it will pass with the help of Australia’s ugliest woman, Tony Windsor.

Infidel Tiger

13 Mar 13 at 11:49 pm
The redoubtable Heather MacDonald in City-Journal:
To Speak of Woe That Is in Teen Pregnancy
Mayor Bloomberg dares do it, with predictable backlash

New York mayor Michael Bloomberg has drawn the ire of the poverty-industrial complex for launching a gutsy ad campaign against teen pregnancy. Posters in thousands of bus shelters and subways show tiny tots bewailing the bad news about teen pregnancy. “Because you had me as a teen,” cries one, “I’m twice as likely not to graduate high school.” Other stressed-out toddlers warn of the financial burdens their unwed mothers will face and the near certainty that their fathers won’t stick around. One little sage identifies the simplest way to avoid poverty: graduate from high school, get a job, and wait until marriage before having a child.

These are all incontrovertible facts that social science has known for decades but that professors and politicians have not dared inject into the public sphere. And the reason for their reticence is fully on display in the advocacy world’s reaction to the ad campaign.

………

The backlash illustrates two defining features of contemporary poverty discourse. First is the stigma against stigma. Accusing someone of being stigmatizing is almost as powerful a means of silencing him as calling him a racist. For millennia, humans relied on social disapproval to reduce behavior that produced disproportionate costs to individuals and the community. Now, however, one cannot point out the bad consequences of actions that generate multigenerational poverty, because that would be “judgmental.” Even abstract statements of fact, like those in the Bloomberg ad campaign, are now reviled as insensitive, even when not directed at any particular individual.

The second defining figure of our poverty discourse is the philosophical divide over poverty and causality. Planned Parenthood’s Morales told the Times that the ad campaign’s message—that teenage pregnancy leads to poverty—was “backward,” in the Times’s words. “It’s not teen pregnancies that cause poverty, but poverty that causes teen pregnancy,” she said. The question of whether poverty is the all-encompassing explanation for self-defeating behaviors or the result of those behaviors—where, in other words, personal responsibility ends and ineluctable social causes begin—forms a dividing line between what may be loosely characterized as the liberal and conservative worldviews.

RTWT

JamesK

13 Mar 13 at 11:52 pm
Say what you like about the ‘old days’ but shame, disgrace and ‘judgementalism’ were very cheap and effective deterrents to unmarried pregnancy, deadbeat dad-ism and leeching off the public purse.

Now the state is everyone’s baby-daddy and the results are plain for all to see.

All that remains is, indeed, the stigma against stigma.

C.L.

13 Mar 13 at 11:57 pm
What sort of message is that stupid tart sending to the thousands, nay millions, of legal migrants in this country?

Who have gainful employment
Who own businesses
Who pay taxes
Who in general provide more value to this country than that coterie of mendacious venal scum in the present parliamentary ALP

This is some loony White Australia policy all over again. Nearly every government we’ve had in Australia since Federation has had at least something redeeming about them. This lot are without question the worst pack of vandals we’ve ever had the misfortune to endure.

I hate them with every fibre of my being.

tbh

13 Mar 13 at 11:59 pm
This lot are without question the worst pack of vandals we’ve ever had the misfortune to endure.

I hate them with every fibre of my being.

I hope they all die of the most painful genital cancers the devil can conjure.

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 12:01 am
I hope they all die of the most painful genital cancers the devil can conjure.

Amen

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 12:03 am
I hate them with every fibre of my being.

It’s hardly enough.

Interesting how well known leftwing blogs have left Conroy’s threats alone.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 12:09 am
It’s hardly enough.

I cannae give it any more Capt’n.

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 12:10 am
Looks what these c**ts are up to:

ABOR is unveiling a spate of new policies that will help it secure the support of independent MPs for its controversial media reforms amid signs key parliamentary allies, including Rob Oakeshott, are prepared to scuttle the new laws.

The government is planning a crackdown on big supermarkets to help Australian grocery suppliers in a move that acts on some of the independents’ concerns and could smooth the ground for media legislation to be introduced into parliament today.

The strategy adds to other Labor initiatives to keep Mr Oakeshott and fellow independent MP Tony Windsor on side, including curbs on coal-seam gas projects, as the two independents emerge as the crucial two votes on the media package.

And look who else they are bribing:

Support for government oversight of the press is expected to come from two other independents, former Labor MP Craig Thomson and former Liberal MP Peter Slipper, with the latter saying last night he “strongly supports” the appointment of a public interest media advocate.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/independent-mps-score-pet-projects-from-labor-media-plan/story-e6frg996-1226596787641

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 12:11 am
Bwahahahahaha! From the Tele:

Apology:

YESTERDAY we ran a picture of Federal Communications Minister Stephen Conroy depicted as Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

It has since been pointed out that this was a grossly unfair and insulting comparison to make. And so we would just like to say: We’re sorry, Joe.

Yes, it is true that Stalin was a despicable and evil tyrant who was responsible for the death of many millions.

However, at least he was upfront in his efforts to control the media instead of pretending he supported free speech and then suggesting that cheeky, satirical or provocative newspaper coverage might be against the law. We also note that, despite his well-documented crimes against humanity, Stalin at least managed to hold a government together for more than three years.

Nonetheless, we pay tribute to our new Commissar Conroy and stand ready to write and publish whatever he instructs us to.

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 12:13 am
Lol curbs on honest migrant workers and the right to free speech and its Howard the left still rail about

Nic

14 Mar 13 at 12:14 am
So Oakeshott is lying and just angling for a crackdown on cheaper food and energy.

He should be thrown in jail.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 12:19 am
Oakeshott claims he’ll sink press ban:

Doesn’t matter. Katter has agreed to back it, so it will pass with the help of Australia’s ugliest woman, Tony Windsor.

We’re being played for mugs. It’s all theatre, probably even the legislation is theatre.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:21 am
LABOR is unveiling a spate of new policies that will help it secure the support of independent MPs for its controversial media reforms amid signs key parliamentary allies, including Rob Oakeshott, are prepared to scuttle the new laws.

What a rotten bunch of Obeids. Outright bribery. Neither caucus not the cabinet have seen the new laws yet already with the graft and Thompson and Slipper already supporting an unseen document. Pathetic and disgusting.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 12:22 am
Government by vendetta.

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 12:24 am
Support for government oversight of the press is expected to come from two other independents, former Labor MP Craig Thomson and former Liberal MP Peter Slipper, with the latter saying last night he “strongly supports” the appointment of a public interest media advocate.

Gee, I wonder why Slipper and Thompson support the media being muzzled?

They can’t possibly be this ham fisted.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:26 am
The government is planning a crackdown on big supermarkets to help Australian grocery suppliers in a move that acts on some of the independents’ concerns and could smooth the ground for media legislation to be introduced into parliament today.

The strategy adds to other Labor initiatives to keep Mr Oakeshott and fellow independent MP Tony Windsor on side, including curbs on coal-seam gas projects, as the two independents emerge as the crucial two votes on the media package.

Something’s on the boil.

Leadership spill and/or Election coming very soon?

Or are they just going to have a wee little revolution for the next four months?

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:28 am
Something’s on the boil.

I still do not understand why Conroy wants this as yet unseen legislation to be passed within a week. Why the rush and why now?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 12:30 am
Nonetheless, we pay tribute to our new Commissar Conroy and stand ready to write and publish whatever he instructs us to.

Somebody at the DT wants to get some martyrdom action going.

Excellent.

1825 approves.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:35 am
Paul Whittaker, DT, writes:

WHEN legislation cannot be explained – even by the politician who created – it you know you’re dealing with a dangerous law.

And so it is that the confusion and inconsistency in Communications Minister Stephen Conroy’s proposed new media reforms has now reached critical mass.

Quizzed about the impact or scope of his plan, Senator Conroy was vague and evasive.

On ABC NewsRadio – surely not a paid-up member of the so-called “hate media” – he was yesterday asked repeatedly about this newspaper’s provocative front page, which was clearly intended to test the nature and intent of the Minister’s attempt to regulate the media.

Sadly, our worst fears were confirmed. He at first condemned the coverage as a “disservice to journalism” – then, when pressed, further confessed he hadn’t seen it.

Worrying.

Interviewer Marius Benson then asked if it breached any of his standards.

Senator Conroy said he didn’t know but that it might do and he would have to check.

Concerning.

Benson then questioned whether it would pass the public interest test – and the Minister attempted to divert the subject by saying the public interest test applied only to enforcing media diversity.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 12:37 am
Good on the Terrorgraph for showing this bloke up for the buffoon he is. He is an utter drooling idiot.

I loved Turbull’s comment in his speech that not even the editors at the Tele had enough imagination to portray Conroy’s incompetence more than he has done to portray it himself.

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 12:41 am
I still do not understand why Conroy wants this as yet unseen legislation to be passed within a week. Why the rush and why now?

Something obvious is being missed.

It’s got to be a leadership biff.

Immediately after the WA slaughter all of this? A near hysteria and ramming of authoritarian commie legislation?

Can’t be coincidence.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:49 am
Could that simply be it?

Could all this just be to drown out any talk of the WA thumping?

A Mcternan media distraction special?

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:54 am
The end of America – a continuing story…

Chief of US Pacific forces calls climate biggest worry.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 12:55 am
It’s got to be a leadership biff.

Immediately after the WA slaughter all of this? A near hysteria and ramming of authoritarian commie legislation?

So let’s say it’s all about leadership. How does rushing this legislation through benefit gillard if she retains leadership? Or benefit the new leader if a spill happens?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 12:58 am
One thing is certain, Conroy’s legislation is not for the benefit of Australia or Australians. It only benefits Labor/Greens/Indep/Unions.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 1:00 am
I just loved the Daily Telegrapgh’s front page yesterday, and I hope they continue (while they can) with the ridicule of that awful Conroy – that page was making people laugh at my local Gloria Jeans

However unless this rotten mob go all Commie China how on earth can they seriously contemplate stopping poor plebs like me accessing news via the internet from the US or Europe?

westie woman

14 Mar 13 at 1:15 am
So let’s say it’s all about leadership. How does rushing this legislation through benefit gillard if she retains leadership? Or benefit the new leader if a spill happens?

It’s not relevant to the leadership per-se. It’s the one thing that they think they must do at any cost before they lose power.

I assumed they’d wait until August to do it – just before the election as it’s a nuclear bomb for them. Apparently they couldn’t wait and literally have to do it by next week.

Why?

Conroy says that it goes through next week or it doesn’t go through at all. That’s a threat – but to who?

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 1:19 am
how on earth can they seriously contemplate stopping poor plebs like me accessing news via the internet from the US or Europe?

Conroy’s internet filter 2.0

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 1:23 am
Gab

Conroy’s internet filter 2.0

Vanuatu is looking good – do they welcome refugees fleeing oppressive regimes?

westie woman

14 Mar 13 at 1:27 am
It’s the one thing that they think they must do at any cost before they lose power.

Well it would certainly quash an stories criticizing the government over the budget and imagine the election campaign with these draconian laws in place. No problem for the likes of Fairfax but anyone criticizing them well that would be a different tale for them.

Perhaps it’s a case of these laws just being stage 1 before other media restriction laws are implemented in time to take effect before the election as stage 2.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 1:28 am
North Korea is starting to look positively democratic, Westie.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 1:29 am
Well it would certainly quash an stories criticizing the government over the budget and imagine the election campaign with these draconian laws in place. No problem for the likes of Fairfax but anyone criticizing them well that would be a different tale for them.

Speakers Corner at the Domain in Sydney to be revived?

If the written word as criticism is banned see the rise of other forms of protest

Gawd I’m so angry at this

westie woman

14 Mar 13 at 1:37 am
That’s the thing Westie, what is Conroy gunna do now, in front of the nation no less, but kick up a stink about a montage on a bit of paper.

The electorate is just gunna laugh at the silly Cnut.

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 1:44 am
Conroy’s internet filter 2.0

This needs to be borne out.

The NBN will be filtered one way or another.

Conroy originally argued that content going across the Internet was subject to Broadcast laws (ACMA classifications – unclassifiable material would be banned). Somebody told him private networks ummm no, public networks maybe. The internet is currently made up of many private networks the NBN is a government owned and run network.

Not hard to see where that’s going to go.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 1:52 am
Well it would certainly quash an stories criticizing the government over the budget and imagine the election campaign with these draconian laws in place. No problem for the likes of Fairfax but anyone criticizing them well that would be a different tale for them.

Nah I doubt it would be all up and running properly before the election.

They just want them in place as a calling card – a bit of graffiti in the nations history: “The Labor left was ere murdoch sucks!”.

Possibly they’re hoping of a repeat of the infamous Gillard / Hartigan intimidation where she frightened the Aus into pussy footing around for six months.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 2:01 am
Ed Zaccarey.

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 2:01 am
Conroys band of criminals, homophobes and pirates love the idea of muzzling the press:

Mr Katter told Fairfax Media on Wednesday that while he would wait to see the legislation before deciding how he would vote, he agreed with Communications Minister Stephen Conroy that ”something needed to be done” about an often irresponsible press.

The independent MP singled out News Ltd’s Australian newspaper for criticism.

”It has had a constant determination to enforce a free market philosophy. It has never printed the other side,” Mr Katter said.

”If you exercise that power in such an unbalanced manner . . . Newspapers do not necessarily belong to the proprietors, they have a responsibility to society.”

Get it? The Australian is too pro-free market and so must be “regulated” because it doesn’t belong to its owners it belongs to the governme…er…society.

But this doesn’t have anything at all to do with Free Speech or muzzling The Aus.

Nothing at all.

Except according to everybody supporting it including Conroy it does.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 2:11 am
He’s got the aspect of a bully who treats other kids like shit then runs to the teacher whining for protection when they retaliate.

The masterstroke by the paper is priceless – the more of an idiot they make him appear to be, the more ludicrous his grasping for the power to prevent such things appears. The danger is that we will laugh at his silliness so much we may forget just how fucking dangerous he and his ilk will be if they get the power they want.

perturbed

14 Mar 13 at 2:12 am
Twostix, with this governments form, the regulations to the Act will be two years off.

Remember that other great legislative abortion, the Krudd carbon tax? Lurch stood there for months but couldn’t draft a two line sentence.

Or the NHHN. Another great steaming pile of nothingness.

Lets face it, the ALP officially ran out of ideas around about the time The Australian newspaper stopped running the ‘Whats left?’ column in 2009.

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 2:18 am
Looks like Keating was right about the Banana Republic but I bet he never dreamed it would result from a Labor government’s policies in 2013.

Lloyd

14 Mar 13 at 2:20 am
Any admirers of Bob Katter left?

This lazy old socialist dandy has been on the public tit since 1974.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 2:29 am
Stephen Conroy 2006: Topic – Media Regulation:

In 2006, when the Howard government made its changes to media regulation, Conroy complained to the ABC that then communications minister Helen Coonan’s announcement represented “an arrogant government that’s ramming through the parliament the most significant changes in 20 years and they’re only going to allow one month of consultations for the public“.

Two weeks is better.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/the-man-who-would-govern-our-media/story-e6frg6z6-1226596728108

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 2:30 am
In other news, ClimateGate 3 would appear to have broken…

mct

14 Mar 13 at 2:31 am
Notice something missing?

Born in Britain in 1963, Conroy arrived in Canberra in 1973. He completed an economics degree at the Australian National University, worked for Canberra MP Ros Kelly, then self-proclaimed Labor brains Barry Jones. In the second half of the 1980s he headed to Jones’s home town of Melbourne and secured a job with Robert Ray, by then a senior Hawke minister and the party’s right-wing strongman in Victoria. Soon afterwards, Ray stepped back from active involvement in factional politics and handed the baton to Conroy, who took it enthusiastically.

He served as the superannuation officer with the Transport Workers Union and on the City of Footscray council before filling the casual vacancy in the Senate created by Gareth Evans’s ill-fated move to the lower house at the 1996 election.

Like ever actually having a job?

How is “Labor” dominated entirely by people who have never worked a single day in their lives?

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 2:33 am
What’s a superannuation officer? Glorified admin assistant? (Newspeak for secretary)

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 2:49 am
Footscray council

LOL.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 2:50 am
Link for mct post

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 2:51 am
How is “Labor” dominated entirely by people who have never worked a single day in their lives?

Not a day of blue-collar work, that’s for sure. I suspect Labor’s constitution as an organisation should be amended to avoid this sort of thing in the future. Beazley Senior must be crying in his grave.

perturbed

14 Mar 13 at 3:22 am
Habemus Papam!
Still waiting to hear who he is though…

Cold-Hands

14 Mar 13 at 6:11 am
Leigh Sales attacked News for running that brilliant front page, saying it was a misrepresentation that runs counter to responsible reporting standards.
Can anybody show me where she or anyone else at the ABC attacked the gross misrepresentation of Tony Abbott as a misogynist?

Blogstrop

14 Mar 13 at 6:25 am
Rudd’s Gang of Four is now Gillard’s Gang of Two:

CABINET was cornered into backing the government’s draconian media regulations during a special meeting on Tuesday, senior Gillard ministers have confirmed.

Cabinet sources revealed that most ministers were denied time to properly read Communications Minister Stephen Conroy’s proposed media reform rules before they were rubber stamped.

“It would be fair to say there was very limited discussion,” one cabinet source said, confirming proper process had been scrapped at the meeting.

A small number of ministers are believed to have been kept in the loop, including Treasurer Wayne Swan and Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

But other key cabinet ministers said they had been given no notice of what was to come before the Tuesday meeting, nor were they given sufficient time to digest the document before it was agreed to.

It has also been revealed that caucus rules were breached when the media reform documents were dumped on a table during a subsequent caucus meeting on Tuesday, with MPs given similarly little time to digest the documents before being forced to a vote.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 7:07 am
HABEMUS PAPUM

It is George Mario Cardinal Bergoglio, (Spanish: Jorge Mario Cardinal Bergoglio), of Argentina is the new Pope Francis I

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 7:21 am
Catholici Romani Papam habent.

Deadman

14 Mar 13 at 7:31 am
In breaking news, self interest has forced Kudelka to create a cartoon that is not just another parroting of the autocratic message of the ALP/Greens alliance.

I trust he is apologising to his luvvie mates on twitter about this now and will return to supporting the closing down of free speech tomorrow. Watch for Kudelka to blame Abbott, Abbott, Abbott for Senator Benito Red Underpants legislation.

Token

14 Mar 13 at 8:25 am
Notice something missing?

Wasn’t there supposed to be a Chernobal type nuclear accident in his history?

Token

14 Mar 13 at 8:26 am
Katter would have made an excellent union leader. Plenty of public bleatings on behalf of his membership while at the same time earning far more than the membership, paid for by the membership. He should be in the ALP.

Tiny Dancer

14 Mar 13 at 8:30 am
It’s not da normal kind of cold, I tells ya!

England … has had the coldest March day in 26 years.

FFS – gerbil worming again, obviously. Is there nothing it can’t do?

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 8:31 am
Wasn’t there supposed to be a Chernobal type nuclear accident in his history?

Yes, the now legendary northern english “Nuclear Milk Disaster” of of 1956 or whenever the f*ck it was.

The incident benito actually bawled his eyes out about in that house of lobotomised parasites (aka parliament).

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 8:36 am
Well, well, well, speaking of the house of lobotomised parasites, guess which bill doesn’t appear in the list of bills before the lower house?

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 8:43 am
More anti-business policy by Labor to sweeten up the independents for the media laws

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/media/independent-mps-score-pet-projects-from-labor-media-plan/story-e6frg996-1226596787641

Basically they want to regulate the grocery market to sure up the country independents. It could be a wedge issue for the Nats and Libs.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 8:45 am
Leigh Sales channels her inner totalitarian:

CAMPBELL REID (News Ltd editorial director): There’s a difference between provocation and inaccuracy and unfairness, and if we’re thinking that really what we need in Australian society is a tort of politeness, and a shut-down media where you’re not allowed to be provocative, you’re not allowed to be interesting, you’re not allowed to be…

LEIGH SALES: You can be provocative and interesting; you just can’t be blatantly unfair…

She just explained why zombies aren’t like people in the real world who found the Tele front page scathing and humorous: they respond emotionally by closing ranks behind their government (which most peole find appalling), even if it means supporting fascist gangsters like Conroy to punish their political enemies and even if it destroys freedom of speech.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 8:47 am
I doubt enough country people care.

wreckage

14 Mar 13 at 8:49 am
unfair is undefined.

wreckage

14 Mar 13 at 9:03 am
The problem is that many of these people who think supermarkets need regulation for Milk and similar products is that it will ultimately cost the consumer. Either way, somebody loses unless farmers find more cheaper ways to produce their product.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 9:05 am
Dairy Industry (Drinking Milk) Bill 2013

Provides for: the registration of dairy regional representative bodies; Fair Work Australia to determine a modern award for dairy farmers (including the objective of providing a fair minimum return to dairy farmers for producing drinking milk); dairy farmers and processors to establish enterprise agreements; and collective negotiations.

Yep, that won’t end up costing the consumer at all.

P.S. I’d strongly recommend people have a look through that list of ‘Bills’ currently before the lower house, if you want to get an inkling of exactly how these stupid statist arseholes just can’t stop f*cking meddling in just about every aspect of society and the economy. The biggy of course, Benito Conboy’s Press Freedom Bill, is mysteriously absent.

The list is ridiculous, repellent and utterly infuriating…

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 9:17 am
The incident benito actually bawled his eyes out about in that house of lobotomised parasites (aka parliament).

I thought it was at the last Liar’s party conference. He went all teary in front of the likes of Bill Ludwig. I’m sure it brought a lump (of vomit) even to Bill’s throat.

Keith

14 Mar 13 at 9:25 am
Joel Fitzgibbon on the ALPBC lets the cat out of the explaining that Conroy’s media laws would not have allowed some of the Craig Thomson reporting. What possible motivation would the government have in limiting reporting that one of their MPs is alleged to have used his employer union funds to pay for prostitutes and that the NSW Labor Party spent $300,000 to pay his failed defamation action and legal bills so he would not be bankrupted and expelled from Parliament?

Another test for the indepence of Oakeshott and Windsor. Expect the usual – a lot of hand waving and blather, before they roll over and pass the legislation. Just as they have always done.

H B Bear

14 Mar 13 at 9:26 am
http://www.madisonmag.com.au/poll-results.htm

Women’s mag, online poll: Abbott leads Gillard nearly 2:1 as preferred PM

wreckage

14 Mar 13 at 9:28 am
Apologies, Keith, you’re proably correct – I try not to pay too much attention to liars party conferences.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 9:34 am
Yep, here we go – the whole pathetic incident recalled…

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 9:36 am
Climategate password released

Ripper

14 Mar 13 at 10:45 am
Classic Nigel Farage Slams Eurozone As “Complete Economic Disaster”

“The air is thick with denial in this chamber,” is how UKIP’s Nigel Farage begins his truthiness rant at the most recent European Council meeting. Reflecting on the Italian election and overwhelming success of ‘Eurosceptic’ political parties, Farage barks that it “is absolutely clear that Eurozone membership is completely incompatible with nation-state democracy.” The complete denial (and “unutterable drivel”) about the Eurozone crisis incenses him as he says “you’d think listening to everyone this morning that it’s over.” The real problem, he explains, is that they won’t face up to the reality that “You are not facing up to the consequences for what you’ve done,” as he tries to make the technocrats comprehend, “the Eurozone has been a complete economic disaster,” because of the Euro – and the disaster is still coming down the tracks.

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 11:06 am
Not good news on the Coalition’s side. Abbott to keep the baby bonus when the Paid Parental Leave scheme is introduced. Why keep a baby bonus when you are introducing a paid parental scheme? They are both for the same purpose ultimately.
For me personally, both should be dumped.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/16364118/abbott-derails-hockey-over-baby-bonus/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 11:16 am
Andrew Bolt denounces “foul tattooed lady” – which will come as a hurtful shock to this girl’s father and step-mistress.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 11:16 am
Fair Work Australia to determine a modern award for dairy farmers (including the objective of providing a fair minimum return to dairy farmers for producing drinking milk);

So Fair Work Australia is moving into regulating prices?

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 11:27 am
That cannot end well for Australian consumers. Farmers are business owners, so FWA should have no part to play in this.

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 11:29 am
What is it with leftists and regulating the price of milk. I remember when I was a kid it was a massive deal milk in Canberra to be “deregulated”.

I read that Gillardesqe NSW Premier Jack Lang waged a battle over regulating the price of milk.

What is it about the price of milk that so arouses lefitsts?

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 11:29 am
Why keep a baby bonus when you are introducing a paid parental scheme? They are both for the same purpose ultimately.
For me personally, both should be dumped.

With no baby bonus families where women who give up their jobs to stay at home and raise their children will literally get almost nothing while women who dump their kids in childcare and go back to work not only get tens of thousands of dollars for a holiday, then get tens of thousands of dollars a year in childcare rebates and childcare welfare payments.

Hardly “equitable”.

Scrap it all.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 11:39 am
Unemployment stays constant @5.5%. 71000 new jobs created, 3/4 of which are part time.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 11:40 am
What is it about the price of milk that so arouses lefitsts?

Those old movies where teh workers and teh peasants rise up in common cause has a lot to do with it.
Land-owning, sole trader, Australian farmers just don’t fit the peasant profile. They must be made to conform to the boilerplate lefty narrative.

Keith

14 Mar 13 at 1:00 pm
While traversing the interwebs, I came across this piece by George Orwell, written in 1946, about poor use of the English language and especially politicians dealing in double-speak and language abuse.

George Orwell, “Politics and the English Language”, 1946

An excerpt:

In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. Things like the continuance of British rule in India, the Russian purges and deportations, the dropping of the atom bombs on Japan, can indeed be defended, but only by arguments which are too brutal for most people to face, and which do not square with the professed aims of the political parties. Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenseless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements. Such phraseology is needed if one wants to name things without calling up mental pictures of them. Consider for instance some comfortable English professor defending Russian totalitarianism. He cannot say outright, “I believe in killing off your opponents when you can get good results by doing so.” Probably, therefore, he will say something like this:

“While freely conceding that the Soviet regime exhibits certain features which the humanitarian may be inclined to deplore, we must, I think, agree that a certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an unavoidable concomitant of transitional periods, and that the rigors which the Russian people have been called upon to undergo have been amply justified in the sphere of concrete achievement.”

It’s both destruction of political speak which we are still burdened with and lesson in good writing all in one essay. I feel suitable chastened for leaning on grammatical crutches and worn-out metaphors.

RTWT

brc

14 Mar 13 at 1:13 pm
Journalists being ordered to PH on rumours of a spill.
Nice work by Stephen ‘suicide bomber’ Conroy to get the media onside.

Rousie

14 Mar 13 at 3:36 pm
I’ve heard the same rumour independently.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 3:40 pm
Journalists being ordered to PH

What does PH mean?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 3:41 pm
Parliament House?

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 3:41 pm
Please keep Gillard

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 3:42 pm
Parliament House.

Rousie

14 Mar 13 at 3:44 pm
I’ve noticed an odd look of indifference on the face of Albanese and Swan this week when Gillard is up in QT pretending to be a stoic war-horse.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 3:44 pm
Both offices denying its on. So if it is on, Gillard will finish on a lie whilst Krudd will start on one. That’s how the ALP roll.

Rousie

14 Mar 13 at 3:47 pm
Rudd’s camp is denying it because he isn’t challenging. It is someone else that they have chosen to lead.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 3:53 pm
Can they get rid of Conroy instead?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 3:54 pm
Maybe there will be no challenge? Gillard will retire!!

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 4:00 pm
Now THAT is the blind optimism of youth, Andrew!

mct

14 Mar 13 at 4:01 pm
Lardarse blunders on as leader, for now.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 4:10 pm
I love the smell of burning in the afternoon.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 4:15 pm
perhaps S. Conroy is resigning or something.

candy

14 Mar 13 at 4:19 pm
gillard caught smooching up to Dave Oliver, ACTU sec.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 4:19 pm
Ewin Hannan ‏@EwinHannan

In one week, PM has met three major ACTU claims: penalty rates, arbitration of intractable disputes and right to meet workers in lunchrooms.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 4:19 pm
Where are those marshmallows?
Is she alight yet?

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 4:20 pm
NDIS is last significant thing befire the election. Maybe it has triggered some rearrangments

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 4:23 pm
So why were journos being ordered to parliament house?

OMG, it’s not going to be another Jonestown is it?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 4:23 pm
Please, not a leadership change. The myth that ‘Gilard could have won’ must not be allowed to grow.

brc

14 Mar 13 at 4:24 pm
Please, not a leadership change. The myth that ‘Gilard could have not lied nit cheated not stabbes must not be allowed to grow

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 4:34 pm
It will all happen tomorrow. Gillard will stand down because she has been tapped on the shoulder by Shorten and Shorten will be given the leadership.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 4:36 pm
Source?

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 4:39 pm
OMG, it’s not going to be another Jonestown is it?

I’ll be there Gab, tirelessly handing out the Kool-Aid.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 4:41 pm
I’d better try try and contact the Mole™…

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 4:42 pm
tirelessly handing out the Kool-Aid.

Always working for the good of all, Rabz.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 4:43 pm
The reason I ask, Andrew, is a friend of mine, who knows nothing about politics, but, like anyone, will listen to anyone who talks behind his hand, also rang me today tipping a spill, which tells me it’s a very widespread rumour invented by someone in a pub because of the ongoing leadership instability.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 4:44 pm
It might just be about the new employment figures, where some record number of jobs has been created announced just today.

candy

14 Mar 13 at 4:49 pm
Candy

If the lying slapper gets knifed, are you going to feel sorry for her too.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 4:50 pm
nope.

candy

14 Mar 13 at 4:51 pm
If the rumour is true, then Shane wand is a goner too, no?

The slapper and wand came as a pair like the bobsey twins.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 4:52 pm
The reason I ask, Andrew, is a friend of mine, who knows nothing about politics, but, like anyone, will listen to anyone who talks behind his hand, also rang me today tipping a spill, which tells me it’s a very widespread rumour invented by someone in a pub because of the ongoing leadership instability.

Just a hunch. I don’t think a media uproar occuring out of nowhere like this came from nothing.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 4:53 pm
Denis Shanahan from the Oz on Sky has Labor MPs telling him they think Conroy’s media regs circus was just a distraction from the terrible polling and the fallout from Rooty Hill was just a talking point that was never designed to succeed.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 4:55 pm
Just a hunch. I don’t think a media uproar occuring out of nowhere like this came from nothing.

There is no media uproar. Not a word of it has been mentioned in the MSM, AFAIK.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 4:56 pm
Why not?

Rudd knifed crean, so it’s not as though he didn’t have blood on his hands?

Stop with the sulking and holding grudges as I don’t tolerate that stuff.

You were going off the rails the other week, so ought to be thanking me for keeping focused and on track.

Show some appreciation at the very least, skipper.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 4:57 pm
Why not?

Rudd knifed crean, so it’s not as though he didn’t have blood on his hands?

Stop with the sulking and holding grudges as I don’t tolerate that stuff.

You were going off the rails the other week, so ought to be thanking me for keeping you focused and on track.

Show some appreciation at the very least, skipper.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 4:58 pm
Bolt simply mentioned that it was a non-story. As I say, pub talk.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 4:59 pm
Fucking iPad

One more mistake and its going out the window

JC

14 Mar 13 at 5:00 pm
Tom
Even if its crap, it shows how jumpy everyone is about the slappers hold on power.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 5:02 pm
One more mistake and its going out the window

Just leave it on the bed on wash day so Wifey can wash it.;)

eam

14 Mar 13 at 5:06 pm
Exactly, JC. There has rarely been such unstable government in this country, exacerbated by the facts that the lunatics in charge are Marxists.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 5:09 pm
MMM just reported that Julia said it was not true that Simon Crean was leading a deputation of MPs against her.

eam

14 Mar 13 at 5:10 pm
If their morality doubled every day they’ve been in power it would not be a match for that of a lunatic marxist even now.
Stop insulting Joe Stalin. The TD dioes enough of that.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 5:13 pm
Julia said it was not true that Simon Crean was leading a deputation of MPs against her.

Ah, so leadership spill is confirmed then.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 5:17 pm
it shows how jumpy everyone is

HUH! They wish.

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 5:20 pm
Kate Ellis is saying in the news that it was an eevil Liberal Party plot

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 5:25 pm
Technically it’s not a challenge if leader falls on sword first.

Derp

14 Mar 13 at 5:25 pm
Technically it’s not a challenge if leader falls on sword first.

What about ‘falling’ backwards?

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 5:26 pm
It must be true.

Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s office denies rumours of leadership spill

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/prime-minister-julia-gillards-office-denies-rumours-of-leadership-spill/story-fncynjr2-1226597507366#ixzz2NUcMjqjj

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 5:26 pm
right to meet workers in lunchrooms.

The Christine Nixon amendment.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 5:26 pm
Good one Julie Bishop – defending Michael Smith

Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop has called for Prime Minister Julia Gillard to be referred to the powerful privileges committee over comments she made about radio presenter Michael Smith.

Mike of Marion

14 Mar 13 at 5:27 pm
She [Bishop] asked Speaker Anna Burke to determine whether a prima facie breach of privilege had occurred that should be referred to the privileges committee.

Lol we all know what burke’s answer will be.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 5:32 pm
a Rudd camp source said: “There is nothing you need to know about.”

LOL.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 5:37 pm
Oh yeah: that would be the Julie Bishop who “accidentally” spoke to Blewitt (now alleged to be sexual abuser of his sister, but still seems to Michael Smith to be a really decent chap at heart who just wants to come clean.)

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 5:37 pm
Lol we all know what burke’s answer will be.

Actually according to Michael Smith who lodged his own complaint with her she has already referred the matter.

But when the committee last met (for <20 minutes) with Chairperson Comrade Roxoff the matter was not on the agenda mysteriously.

So now Julie Bishop is upping the ante.

Good on her!

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 5:38 pm
Dogshit is always ready to be Duckbum’s eunuch if he can somehow work sexual perversion into the narrative.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 5:39 pm
a Rudd camp source said: “There is nothing you need to know about.”

Hilarious. ‘Move along. nothing to see here’.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 5:40 pm
It is, frankly, a scandal that the Victorian police are investigating a complaint made by Smith about a power of attorney which had no effect on him at all, and which led to a transaction which did not cause loss or harm to Blewitt at all. Or to the lender to Blewitt, at all.

Whether the PM witnessed a POA correctly or not is a matter that would normally be dealt with a Law Society if a complaint was raised, as a matter of professional standards. Given that she no longer practices, they obviously have no interest now in what happened 19 years ago.

If no one was defrauded or suffered loss as a result of the matter, there is no reason for police to be involved.

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 5:44 pm
Good dog, SFB. Julia will give you an extra bone tonight.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 5:46 pm
I arrived here through Botla’s site. When I try my usual connection I get “Ozblogistan is broken” Equally when I try to access Catally through the Catallaxy Files headline I get the same result. I have been away for1 10 days – what has changed? What do I need to change?

Sirocco

14 Mar 13 at 5:48 pm
INTERNET TROLL LOSES SENSE OF HUMOUR WHEN HE GETS TRACKED DOWN

That’s the typical behaviour of a troll – bring them out in the same daylight as everyone else and they are nothing more than weasely cowards.

Now, which troll would I like to track down, hmm… decisions decisions.

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 5:49 pm
Sirocco, clear your browser cache.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 5:50 pm
Sirocco, you need to go to internet options and delete browsing history (make sure the top four boxes are ticked)

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 5:50 pm
I arrived here through Botla’s site. When I try my usual connection I get “Ozblogistan is broken”

Clear your cache of catallaxydotcom and repeat reload on the page if “Ozblogistan is broken” still shows

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 5:51 pm
There ya go, Sirocco, in triplicate.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 5:51 pm
It is, frankly, a scandal that the Victorian police are investigating a complaint made by Smith about a power of attorney which had no effect on him at all, and which led to a transaction which did not cause loss or harm to Blewitt at all. Or to the lender to Blewitt, at all.

Whether the PM witnessed a POA correctly or not is a matter that would normally be dealt with a Law Society if a complaint was raised, as a matter of professional standards. Given that she no longer practices, they obviously have no interest now in what happened 19 years ago.

If no one was defrauded or suffered loss as a result of the matter, there is no reason for police to be involved.

Fuck. Me. Dead.
If you cannot see how the PM of this country committing an act that would see her disbarred goes to her character and fitness to hold high office, you have no right to be commenting here.
Steve, you have swallowed the Kool-Aid and you have passed the point of no return.
You have been forever exposed as nothing more than a shill for the worst PM ever, who, from all reports is about to be given her last rites as leader.
Your wailing and gnashing of teeth will be a sight to behold.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 5:53 pm
LOL:

TIM Mathieson, the Prime Minister’s partner and a long-time motorcycle enthusiast, is about to climb into the saddle to raise $100,000 to fight child slavery in Cambodia.

He plans to ride in a pack of about 50 bikers from Kirribilli House, the Prime Minister’s residence in Sydney, to The Lodge in Canberra via Wollongong, Kangaroo Valley and the Hume Highway, astride a brand new machine on loan from BMW.

”I’ve owned four BMWs, several Triumphs and a Norton Commando over the years as well as a lot of dirt bikes, and it will feel good to be back on the road. My first bike was a little 55cc Yamaha step-through when I was six, but I don’t own anything now.”

It will be recalled that his ‘partner’ attempted to send women and children to slaving hellhole Malaysia before being stopped by the High Court.

No motorcycle money for them.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 5:55 pm
Thank you all. Blood pressure back to normal.

Sirocco

14 Mar 13 at 5:56 pm
Huck, the thing is trolls, like that piece of garbage that infest this site to pick fights, have no shame or self-respect. It’s a pathological addiction to seeking attention seen most often people of low intelligence.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 6:00 pm
C.L. 14 Mar 13 at 5:55 pm

Meanwhile another Tim:

TROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION BULLETIN
At 4 pm EST Thursday, Tropical Cyclone Tim (Category 2) with central pressure 984 hPa was located over the northwest Coral Sea near latitude 14.9 south longitude 149.9 east, which is about 495 km east northeast of Cairns and 155 km north of Willis Island.

stackja

14 Mar 13 at 6:03 pm
stakja
I’m in Mackay, beautiful sunny day here, for now anyway.

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 6:09 pm
WSJ, Daniel Henninger: Escape From Spending Hell
The sequester proved that spending cuts aren’t a political third rail.

…..

All hope is not lost. Amid the sequester smackdown with the White House, Republicans did something off-script: They called the Obama bluff. They let the sequester’s spending cuts occur, and the apocalypse didn’t descend. The only thing that cracked was the president’s approval rating.

The sequester’s big discovery was that spending reduction isn’t a political third rail. But if the winds are starting to shift, Republicans are going to need all the help they can get to convince the American people that more cuts in spending will preserve and protect their economy.

Help is at hand—economist Alberto Alesina.

….

Mr. Alesina and his colleagues wanted to answer the most basic question: What works?

They sought the answer (which they published in an August 2012 paper on “fiscal consolidations” for the National Bureau of Economic Research) by analyzing an International Monetary Fund history of all the fiscal plans that 17 OECD governments enacted between 1978 and 2009, including the U.S., Canada and Japan. Together, these countries tried everything to grow—raise spending, cut spending, raise taxes or cut them, in endless combinations. What helped?

“Adjustments based upon spending cuts,” the economists concluded, “are much less costly in terms of output losses than tax-based ones. Spending-based adjustments”—that is, cuts—”have been associated with mild and short-lived recessions, in many cases with no recession at all. Tax-based adjustments”—tax increases—”have been associated with prolonged and deep recessions.”

The debate over “failed austerity” is misleading because it emphasizes spending cuts but rarely mentions tax increases. “Austerity” plans, the Alesina studies suggest, fail to revive growth when they too heavily rely on raising taxes on income and capital—as across Europe and now in the U.S.

RTWT

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 6:24 pm
committing an act that would see her disbarred

Wrong, you idiot. There are many, many cases where the solicitor has received a fine and a reprimand.

At the very worst case here, Blewitt agreed after the contract was signed (with him as the buyer) that he would go along with the deal, including the loan.

There has never been any suggestion (of which I am aware) that Blewitt ever lost or made money on the deal. (Perhaps he should have paid capital gains tax – but that’s his look out if he agrees to go along with such a deal.) Nor is there any suggestion that the lender to him lost money – he or she was presumably repaid in full when the house was sold.

Blewitt was happy to have the house bought in his name, and (at some point) signed a power of attorney that confirmed his authorising this.

There has been no harm to anyone, even on the worst possible scenario, coming out of the witnessing the power of attorney.

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 6:24 pm
Mr FOIA:

Wealth of the surrounding society tends to draw the major brushstrokes of a newborn’s future life. It makes a huge difference whether humanity uses its assets to achieve progress, or whether it strives to stop and reverse it, essentially sacrificing the less fortunate to the climate gods.

We can’t pour trillions in this massive hole-digging-and-filling-up endeavor and pretend it’s not away from something and someone else.

If the economy of a region, a country, a city, etc. deteriorates, what happens among the poorest? Does that usually improve their prospects? No, they will take the hardest hit. No amount of magical climate thinking can turn this one upside-down.

It’s easy for many of us in the western world to accept a tiny green inconvenience and then wallow in that righteous feeling, surrounded by our “clean” technology and energy that is only slightly more expensive if adequately subsidized.

Those millions and billions already struggling with malnutrition, sickness, violence, illiteracy, etc. don’t have that luxury. The price of “climate protection” with its cumulative and collateral effects is bound to destroy and debilitate in great numbers, for decades and generations.

Conversely, a “game-changer” could have a beneficial effect encompassing a similar scope.

If I had a chance to accomplish even a fraction of that, I’d have to try. I couldn’t morally afford inaction.

Good on him, whoever he is, for wrecking Copenhagen and so greatly accelerating the collapse of the great cli-fi scam by exposing the frauds behind it.

And he says he did it for moral reasons.

he has also exposed how reactionary and racist the greens and left are.

Mk50 of Brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 6:33 pm
There has been no harm to anyone, even on the worst possible scenario, coming out of the witnessing the power of attorney.
Other than a large sum of money being money-laundered. Oh, and Bruce Wilson fraudulently claiming living-away from home allowance (small beer I know, but every little adds up).

Cold-Hands

14 Mar 13 at 6:36 pm
You just don’t get it fuckwit. The Lying Slapper is not fit for office. She should be above reproach, instead she should be in prison.
As to no harm, tell me where the money came from knob gobbler. The magical money tree so beloved of the left?
What about Wilson’s wife and kids? The fact that TLS allegedly facilitated a dodgy PoA effectively hid this assett meant that they missed out during the divorce settlement.
What about the widows and orphans in kalgoorlie?
You are an inveterate liar with nothing to contribute here, fuck off you make me sick.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 6:43 pm
“If no one was defrauded or suffered loss as a result of the matter, there is no reason for police to be involved.”

The police exist to enforce the law and arrest the breaking of it. There are many no loss offences. Laws must not be ignored because a particular instance has no complainants. The laws regarding witnessing documents exist for good reason. The fact that death by burning as a penalty in this case would do no harm and much good is no argument for applying it. Similarly an untested, but probably correct assertion of no harm in this case does not justify a failure to act.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 6:44 pm
There has been no harm to anyone, even on the worst possible scenario, coming out of the witnessing the power of attorney.

SfB the wrongologist strikes again.

It’s completely irrelevant whether or not anyone suffered any harm. The alleged actions (if true as alleged) are crimes whether or not anyone got hurt.

Your argument is equivalent to saying that it’s OK to get drunk and drive through the suburbs at 170 k.p.h. so long as you don’t crash. Maybe so, but don’t expect that sort of argument to get any sympathy from the police or the DPP. The whole point is that people can’t skive off by saying ‘but no one was hurt’.

If she did the crime she should do the time, regardless of whether or not any one suffered an actual loss.

Cato the Elder

14 Mar 13 at 6:44 pm
You are an inveterate liar with nothing to contribute here, fuck off you make me sick.

That’s about the half of it too. Don’t hold back next time.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 6:44 pm
I see Steve the self-taught sex expert is back.

blogstrop

14 Mar 13 at 6:47 pm
Sadly my marshmallows are still cold. No bonfire tonight.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 6:47 pm
Twitter:

John Mangos ‏@johnmangos

Reliable source tells me JG is about to appoint Shorten as treasurer. More to come.

H/t Bolt

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 6:47 pm
Self-sex-expert?

Say that when you’re pished.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 6:48 pm
It’s completely irrelevant whether or not anyone suffered any harm.

Actually lots of people suffered harm. If the money was legit then the members lost out.

However from what I’ve read the money came from firms being strong armed through stand over tactics to cough up loot or they would suffer industrial mayhem on their building sites.

This is the sort of shit organized crime rackets get inot and it’s out and out criminal fraud. So in effect the Lying Slapper was aiding and abetting these filthy activities.

Stepford? He’s of course fine with it, the degenerate arsehole.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 6:48 pm
Reliable source tells me JG is about to appoint Shorten as treasurer. More to come.

Lol…. So there goes Wand if it’s true. I’ll certainly miss the brainiac.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 6:50 pm
Head as big as a house. How in God’s name did that poor woman pass that? I do not like her, but God in Heaven that’s soooo big…. and soooo square!

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 6:52 pm
In today’s Chris Kenny’s blog post:

Bobwombat
Thu 14 Mar 13 (01:57pm)
A nice test of the impartiality of the ‘progressive’ media would be for the Opposition to flag a “Public Media Impartiality Advocate” whose remit is to oversee the output of the ABC and SBS.

Then leak the information that Gerard Henderson is being considered for the position.

Chris Kenny
Thu 14 Mar 13 (02:22pm)
Five paws.

Cold-Hands

14 Mar 13 at 7:02 pm
So, on the night that Sprinsteen is playing Brisbane, Swanee is up for getting the arse?

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:07 pm
Reliable source tells me JG is about to appoint Shorten as treasurer.

John Mangos is a lightweight TV mannequin. Ignore.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 7:09 pm
The witnessing of a power of attorney had nothing to do with where the money came from to buy the house.

The most Michael Smith has come up for a criminal offence is s83A of the Crimes Act, which makes it an offence to create a false document with the purpose of having someone accept it as genuine, and act on that belief to their detriment.

There is no one who has suffered any detriment in this incidence.

There is a crap witness who suffered no harm who says 18 years later that he didn’t sign a document that caused no one no harm until after the auction.

It’s rubbish that this is a matter worthy of criminal investigation.

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 7:13 pm
John Mangos is a lightweight TV mannequin. Ignore

So a more significant human being than all the Canberra press gallery then

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 7:14 pm
What about the Kalgoorlie widows cnut?

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:15 pm
John Mangos is a lightweight TV mannequin. Ignore.

Wasn’t he Gra Gra’s bitch on his Ch9 reincarnation back in the late 80′s early 90′s?

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 7:16 pm
Token 80′s TV wog Huck

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:21 pm
Yeah, something certainly did happen today. Rumours like this do not come out of nowhere. Something big will evolve out of it. We live in volatile times.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 7:22 pm
The witnessing of a power of attorney had nothing to do with where the money came from to buy the house.

Correct. It is about the integrity of the legal profession. The signature of a lawyer on a document has more credibility than the signature of an ordinary punter. Lawyers are saying ‘trust us’ and society accepts the integrity of the legal system.

When a lawyer lies on a POA, it devalues the legal profession. The legal profession loses credibility and (coincidently I’m sure) can’t charge as much for their signatures in future. That is why it’s a crime and why the legal profession is quite happy for it to be a crime.

TLS has devalued two professions.

jupes

14 Mar 13 at 7:23 pm
Steve, stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.
Face it, your idol is accused of being no more than a lying, corrupt 2 bit whore. All the evidence indicates that this is most probably correct.
The fact that you are defending this slatternly incompetent says more about you than you can know.
In case I haven’t made it clear, get the fuck out of here, no one likes you, no one cares what you say, you are a despicable piece of human filth and no amount of suffering that you endure will be enough.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 7:23 pm
It’s rubbish that this is a matter worthy of criminal investigation.

That’s why the Victorian fraud squad is investigating, Dogshit, QC.

I’d watch your back if I were you. The incoming government will be cracking down on the disability pension scam you and every other lazy bastard with a work allergy are using to defraud us.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 7:23 pm
Dan, is it because your head contains about as many neurons as your average todger that you insist on having a symbolic penis in every gravatar?

The issue of whether witnessing a power of attorney is a criminal offence has nothing to do with the source of funds used to buy a house.

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 7:27 pm
The issue of whether witnessing a power of attorney is a criminal offence has nothing to do with the source of funds used to buy a house.

Wouldn’t matter to you anyway. She could kill a dozen kittens and you’d still defend the lying slapper. Your the whore really. The slapper’s whore.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:29 pm
When a lawyer lies on a POA, it devalues the legal profession.

That is why I said it would have potentially been a matter for a complaint re professional conduct, not a criminal investigation – unless someone complained that they had suffered detriment.

You should not be using police to investigate a matter which is one relating to professional conduct.

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 7:31 pm
Gab, you really make useless sideline barracking comments all the time – you know that, don’t you?

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 7:33 pm
Actually, idiot, it’s a fertility totem from the museum of ethnology in Hanoi.

Do you know where that is?

It’s in another country.

That means Far away.

If you had a job, some self respect and an open mind you could save your wages and tour the world a bit.

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:34 pm
SFB, you’ve avoided responding to me for a couple of days now. Please keep it up.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:34 pm
You should not be using police to investigate a matter which is one relating to professional conduct.

You’re deranged. If helped perpetrate a fraud it sure does, you dishonest arsehole. Slapper’s sure did.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 7:34 pm
Well stop addressing me, Gab. (Typical of the games you play, by the way.)

Yes Dan, and I suppose the elephant trunk stand in for a penis was all about maintaining your fertility too?

steve from brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 7:36 pm
Stepford:

We’ve never had a PM with so much baggage. We’ve never really had a PM who had those shysters as friends.

We’ve never had a PM fired from a petty senior job because of assisting in fraudulent activity.

Lastly, we’ve never had a PM that was so lowrent.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 7:36 pm
sfb, in this case there was a link between the two. I wonder who that was?

Besides, how do you know that no harm was done? How do you know that the underbidder at the auction didn’t have a properly witnessed power of attorney, and was dudded out of the house via a fraudulent document? Indeed, the underbidder was dudded anyway if the document was fraudulently executed.

Next, you’ll be telling us that it is OK to embezzle money as long as you pay it back.

johanna

14 Mar 13 at 7:37 pm
Gab, you really make useless sideline barracking comments all the time – you know that, don’t you?

Relax liar-steve® and forget Tim.

Tonight in your dreams you can be the Slapper’s bitch.

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 7:37 pm
Singapore Zoo.

A delightful place.

Job=money=making something of your life

Give it a try

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:38 pm
Oh goodie… now the cat gals are sticking the high boot into Stepford. Good times.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 7:38 pm
Besides, how do you know that no harm was done?

Because SFb knows everything, or so he tells us. The slapper’s whore is on the inside, gets his talking sheets daily from Slaps herself.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:39 pm
Random thought: The initials of Bill
shorten are BS. Coincidence?

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 7:39 pm
We’ve never had a PM with so much baggage. We’ve never really had a PM who had those shysters as friends.

We’ve never had a PM fired from a petty senior job because of assisting in fraudulent activity.

Lastly, we’ve never had a PM that was so lowrent.

We’ve never had a PM who thought married women are whores either, but we do now.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:40 pm
Stepford… you’re such an omega that gals just want to get stuck into you.

Who the hell married you?

JC

14 Mar 13 at 7:40 pm
I could be wrong but we’ve also never had a PM who supported infiltrating objective education programs to manipulate the curriculum, to covertly influence students’ perceptions of social order either.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:43 pm
Who married him?

It’s fucking baffling.

She must earn a motza to pay for his bandwidth alone

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:44 pm
Gab

The slapper’s whore

Inspired by Huck I prefer ” The Slappers Slattern “

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 7:44 pm
Didn’t see Huck’s comment, Jump. I prefer the Slapper’s whore. More accurate description of what SFB is.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:46 pm
And pop Slovenly in there somewhere too.

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 7:47 pm
Bruny Island Cheese Co. latest round of cheeses on offer, including their raw milk cheese. Yum

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:49 pm
More accurate description of what SFB is.

A dog shit sandwich, without the bread?

jumpnmcar

14 Mar 13 at 7:50 pm
I really don’t like the use of “dog shit” in reference to SFB. It demeans this site.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 7:54 pm
Just this once for you, Gab, I’ll refer to Dogshit as the Lying Bitch’s Whore instead of the Lying Whore’s Bitch.

Omega, you reckon, JC? Is that the new word for shemale?

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 7:55 pm
At home with Steve

Mrs SfB walks in the door at 8pm. The house smells like Mr Sheen freshly sprayed. “Honey I’m home” she calls out, knowing full well that The Liar is on the computer. She enters the room

“All good? How was the washing machine today dear?

“Wha…?, oh yes fine. Look, I found this great article on the male ejaculate”

“That’s great dear” she walks off. ” two more years” she says to herself “two more years and the kids will move out and I can divorce this useless life sapping fucker.

She retires to the lounge room with a pint of red wine…..

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 7:56 pm
More on why men should never ever marry.

The little princess was coerced into signing a prenup.

Fme.

Wife of millionaire LI real-estate mogul gets judge to rip up her prenup

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/wife_gets_pre_nope_GZ47RjoKcu4xEDubydBtLJ

JC

14 Mar 13 at 7:57 pm
~~I really don’t like the use of “dog shit” in reference to~~ SFB. It demeans this site.

Fixed Gab.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 8:00 pm
Just saw the NT Chief Minister on 730. I know nothing of him but he looked pretty good.

Pickles

14 Mar 13 at 8:03 pm
Channel 7′s Mangos tweets that Gillard preparing to remove Swan in favour of Shorten. (Bolt).

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 8:09 pm
I thought that sfb’s reporting conditions would ban him from going within hundreds of metres from schools and using the Internet.

Tiny Dancer

14 Mar 13 at 8:12 pm
If Gillard gets to feel the knife/stands down, she will have no protection in Parliament. There she will be, sitting on the cross-benches with the Shagger, pretending to be an independent, looking all forlorn with no one to talk to. Julie Bishop will be asking the Speaker for the umpteenth time why the pair of them aren’t suspended.
sfb has foreseen this and offers a defence of the usual distraction/obfuscation variety. Once she’s deposed, sfb will immediately memory-hole the whole thing just like he did with Rudd.
Stay focused sfb, Jools needs you. No time to be angry.

Keith

14 Mar 13 at 8:16 pm
More on why men should never ever marry.

The little princess was coerced into signing a prenup.

There’s a part of me that thinks: Good on her. If marriages are mere contracts, they’re going to be subject to the same principles as other contracts.

dover_beach

14 Mar 13 at 8:23 pm
It’s funny, Gillard’s job is on the line, so she diffuses the situation by getting rid of the 2IC.

It would buy another month till the next stuff up

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 8:25 pm
Will she make it to the cross bench with all the cutlery in her back?
Gonna make it a jangley set of ashes after the burning.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 8:30 pm
Seems I failed to be rude enough bout her. Back in moderation.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 8:31 pm
Just saw the NT Chief Minister on 730. I know nothing of him but he looked pretty good.

Did a Gillard to Terry Mills…not impressed at all.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 8:33 pm
Tom:

I’ll refer to Dogshit as the Lying Bitch’s Whore instead of the Lying Whore’s Bitch.

Cripes, there’s a real choice of descriptors.

maybe Pickering can help in the decision?

Mk50 of Brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 8:38 pm
Noel Gallagher doesn’t think much of contemporary ‘rockers.’

“I saw the drummer from Muse smoking an electronic cigarette. A cigarette with a battery in. I had to say to him: ‘Really? Really? Is that where you are at? Do me a favour mate, either have a proper one outside, or don’t have one.’ It lit up green when he had a drag of it. Nonsense. He said that immortal line – ‘Oh you know how it is mate’. And I said ‘I’m sorry mate, I actually don’t’.”

Gallagher continued his outspoken views on the [Brit Music Awards] ceremony, calling the night “instantly forgettable” and rallying against young people who wear hats. “It was an instantly forgettable night,” said Gallagher. “There was nothing going on at the Brits, there was nothing going on at the aftershow parties. There seemed to be a lot of young people in hats, with iPhones. They’re either all involved in some massive video game that they’re all hooked up to, or they’re just texting each other saying ‘Where are you, what are you doing?’ And they’ve all got hats. Where did the hat come from? We’re going back to some Dickensian nightmare. I don’t understand it. People with hats and Blackberrys under the age of 30 should be shot. Or stoned to death.”

http://www.nme.com/news/noel-gallagher/69067

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 8:40 pm
I saw a group of NT ministers the other day, but couldn’t tell who was the “aboriginal”. Pleased to note that when asked by the skull on 7.30 what he proposed to do with his identity, he said “nothing”.

blogstrop

14 Mar 13 at 8:42 pm
It’s funny, Gillard’s job is on the line, so she diffuses the situation by getting rid of the 2IC.

Quoted for truth.

She’s a violently pathological individual. Her entire life is one where Julia Gillard (TM) has gone it alone, ruining dozens of peoples lives (at least two families), flouting the law, stabbing people in the back and lying to everyone, all the time.

She’s a damaged human being.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 8:52 pm
People.

We really need to start invading our collectively owned media websites.

Why we let this sort of taxpayer funded fascist nuttery and the comments section below it to go unpunished is something we all need to address.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 9:00 pm
She’s a damaged human being

Her and SfB, birds of a feather.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 9:01 pm
Twostix, dissenting comments are not tolerated at the Conversation and are quickly removed.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 9:02 pm
“… People with hats and Blackberrys under the age of 30 should be shot. Or stoned to death.”

Good ol’ Noel.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 9:08 pm
Yea Gab, but you can Report every comment as Typical Leftish Bullshit. Stuff em.

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 9:08 pm
Twostix, dissenting comments are not tolerated at the Conversation and are quickly removed.

Ah that famous leftist love of debate and dissent.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 9:12 pm
martin hirst – another sanctimonious self declared nomenklatura twat who’s (unsurprisingly) hot for government control of the mass meeja.

Oh and it seems fascist hirstie’s new identifier for the election is “Zero Dark Fourteen”, how quaint.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 9:14 pm
Federal Treasury under hot air attack:

A hot air balloon struck the side of the Treasury Building and crashed to the ground just after take-off this morning.

There was a pilot and two passengers aboard the balloon when it tried to avoid a collision with a balloon overhead and instead hit the top of the six-storey building.

No one was hurt in the incident.

A Canberra hobby photographer and visual artist Peter G. Schlumpp captured images of the balloon’s descent, and he believed it was lucky no one was seriously hurt.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 9:18 pm
twostix, its a cesspit. You don’t go in till its pumped out. And you wear full suiting to prevent infection.
Fortunately Steve’s internet use monitoring laws will allow us to identify candidates for persecution

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 9:21 pm
A hot air balloon struck the side of the Treasury Building and crashed to the ground just after take-off this morning.

Yes, heard about that incident earlier today and saw the photos. The Dark Helmet balloon is very funny.

It’s also amusing the balloons have been out in force this last week, what with all the stupid pollies in town – an untapped, almost limitless source of hot air, one would think!

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 9:23 pm
I got told today by one of my Commie lecturers that welfare helped bring the lower class to more wealth. Continually attacked right-wingers and neoliberalism while bragging about Marxism again…luckily I only have to listen to him for one more week.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 9:27 pm
Just make sure in exams you tell him what he wants to hear, Andrew. If there is one thing your typical lefty wanker can’t tolerate, it is independent thought.

entropy

14 Mar 13 at 9:36 pm
Entropy, I have always written in a centre-left slant, when required for English essays. Prefer the good mark than the ideological battle that will subconsciously turn the assessor to dislike my quality piece or writing.

Andrew

14 Mar 13 at 9:40 pm
A hot air balloon struck the side of the Treasury Building and crashed to the ground just after take-off this morning.

Oh My Lord. I don’t even need to work this one up, metaphor-wise.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 9:44 pm
Who knew? US population composed of destitute tent-dwelling snow-eating rootin’ tootin’ moppet shootin’ homosexuals dependent on North Korean aid.

I suspect the vid’s a Chinese jokester poking fun rather than actual Nork propaganda, but doubtless the Australian lefties will want to believe it….

Mk50 of Brisbane

14 Mar 13 at 9:44 pm
Yes Andrew it’s an ordinary start but he was good on TV and that seems to count for a lot these days. All very well to have a black feller here and there in various parliaments but this lot have the most significant political power in history. Brought to you by the CLP.

Pickles

14 Mar 13 at 9:45 pm
Yep, Pickles, just like the conservatives had the first Aboriginal senator (Neville Bonner) decades ago.

Mind you, now that anyone with a poofteenth of a percent of their DNA being identified as Aboriginal can be one, almost anyone whose family comes from west of the Divide in NSW could claim to be Aboriginal.

johanna

14 Mar 13 at 9:54 pm
Did the Raiders sack Dugan because he was caught drinking Bacardi Breezers? Homo.

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 9:54 pm
luckily I only have to listen to him for one more week.

Try drinking – it eases the drudgery.

Carpe Jugulum

14 Mar 13 at 9:57 pm
THE head of a taskforce investigating alleged abuses in the defence force says he’s disillusioned with the federal government’s failure to act on claims – and thinks victims may be too.

DLA Piper taskforce leader Gary Rumble told a Senate Foreign Affairs Defence and Trade hearing on Thursday that he was disappointed none of the matters raised in a 2012 report had been acted on.

Law firm DLA Piper was commissioned to examine abuse allegations following the Skype scandal at the Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA) in 2011 and uncovered 775 plausible abuse allegations across every decade since the 1950s. The earliest related to events in 1951.

“I am deeply concerned that the government’s lack of action and decision last year may have distressed individuals who were hoping for some response to their specific issue (and) worn down the willingness of those who told their stories … to continue to be involved,” Dr Rumble said.

He said he was worried the lack of action would encourage perpetrators and potential witnesses to think they could escape punishment.

When will people realise the empress has no clothes?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 10:09 pm
Amazing that so many boys were raped at the ADF for 75 years given that all of those Masonic Poo-Bah officers were free to marry.

They really should let military officers marry.

Oh wait…

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 10:23 pm
Makes the Captains Pick look weak Joanna.

Pickles

14 Mar 13 at 10:24 pm
Mk50 – I wonder where the North Koreans got the inspiration for that fantasy from? Their former masters in the Kremlin?

Louis Hissink

14 Mar 13 at 10:36 pm
Hey you lot, leave shemales alone. If you saw some of them in Thailand you would not compare them to sfb, who evidently is the lying slapper’s bitch/whore, among other nice terms of endearment.
It’s amazing how anybody could defend gillard in any way, but there you have it, the mentality of about 30% of the nation. Thailand’s ladyboy numbers are at 1% of the population, and we have 30% moron.

Peter55

14 Mar 13 at 10:40 pm
Twostix,

many moons ago I braved the trenches and stuck my head up into Quigginland and Lambertland – posting critical comments at those places is the same as being machine-gunned in no-man’s land between the trenches; an unpleasant experience and pointless when all said and done. It’s shoot the messenger syndrome.

Louis Hissink

14 Mar 13 at 10:41 pm
Law firm DLA Piper was commissioned to examine abuse allegations following the Skype scandal at the Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA) in 2011 and uncovered 775 plausible abuse allegations across every decade since the 1950s. The earliest related to events in 1951.

Three points:

This was a ‘Bringing Them Home Report’ type gig. In other words it was an invitation to make a complaint without any evidence, knowing that the complaint would become part of a report to parliament and there was the hint of compo somewhere down the track.

Despite this, they only ended up with 775 complaints from over 60 years.

I can’t remember how much DLA Piper was paid for this but I think it may have been a lazy $10 mil. Now the pricks are after their next dip into the taxpayer’s purse.

jupes

14 Mar 13 at 10:49 pm
Yes but this government makes it so easy for them, Jupes. They keep putting sugar on the table bound to attract people. (cf. asylum seekers).

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 10:51 pm
“posting critical comments at those places is the same as being machine-gunned in no-man’s land between the trenches; an unpleasant experience and pointless when all said and done. It’s shoot the messenger syndrome.”

Welcome to the internet.

Jarrah

14 Mar 13 at 10:55 pm
Settle, boys, Lady Thatcher would smile angelically while twisting your nads into a reef-knot. And I am an equal-opportunity debunker.

johanna

14 Mar 13 at 10:55 pm
Guess what the main story on Lateline is?

dover_beach

14 Mar 13 at 11:00 pm
Young people smoking less, more overweight.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/julia-gillards-henchman-stephen-conroy-attacks-freedom-of-the-press/story-e6freuy9-1226595971160

Coincidence? I think not.

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 11:00 pm
Snowcone doing a vile hit job on Benedict.

Welcome to the papacy Francis.

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 11:01 pm
Guess what the main story on Lateline is?

Gillard’s a racist whore who disgraces us as a nation?

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 11:04 pm
many moons ago I braved the trenches and stuck my head up into Quigginland and Lambertland – posting critical comments at those places is the same as being machine-gunned in no-man’s land between the trenches; an unpleasant experience and pointless when all said and done.

I used to do this with Lavatory Pronto and I thought it was great fun. Just walk in there and start a fight.

There is no better way of knowing you are on the right path when you can walk into a lefty infestation and not only hold your own, but whip the losers back into subjugation.

I’d say doing this is far from pointless.

John Mc

14 Mar 13 at 11:11 pm
Gillard’s a racist whore who disgraces us as a nation?

Watch it fella. You’re sounding like one of those foreigners with all yer abuse at the true blue aussie PM.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 11:11 pm
True blue?

She immigrated to Adelaide then moved to Melbourne

*shudder*

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 11:19 pm
Young people smoking less, more overweight.

Interesting point. Just about everyone I know who has given up smoking has put on weight.

The good news for the nanny-staters is, they can shift their disapproval, taxes and nudge-politics from smoking to obesity.

The wages of ‘sin’ are endless.

johanna

14 Mar 13 at 11:19 pm
The wages of ‘sin’ are endless.

Yes I’ve wondered what they would move onto once smoking, obesity, gambling, drinking, fast food are all banned.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 11:23 pm
Snowcone doing a vile hit job on Benedict.

If they go really hard on the pope, it will show ordinary people three things:

1. The ABC is a political organisation that taxpayers finance.

2. The ABC only complains about lack of “fairness” when the victim is a favorite of theirs; the rest of their time is spent crucifying their political enemies.

3. The ABC isn’t accountable and needs to be if the public is paying the bills and either selling it or massively reducing the public’s financial exposure is probably a good idea.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 11:23 pm
Gab

Dancing.

johanna

14 Mar 13 at 11:26 pm
But in all seriousness Tom. In today’s Oztraia how popular would it be to move the ownership of the ABC around? I frankly don’t see it happening and the Libs would be too timid to try that one on.

Here’s what I think will happen and we saw the gotcha play in the way the Right caught out the Herman rights commission over the issue of free speech.

The ABC is portrayed as a partisan organization through their own actions or some maneuver and they use that to try and make some serious changes there.

I keep hearing from inside the liberal party that they will appoint an ombudsman with the ability to fire transgressors.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 11:29 pm
Dancing.

Roxon’s handiwork and the leftwing ferals in the federal bureacracy have already illegalised the comedy industry.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 11:32 pm
I keep hearing from inside the liberal party that they will appoint an ombudsman with the ability to fire transgressors.

Unfair dismissal claims will go through the roof!

dismissive

14 Mar 13 at 11:33 pm
Government expert: Racist Gillard lying on 457 figures:

Prime Minister Julia Gillard is being accused of using rubbery figures to justify her call for a crackdown on 457 visa rorts.

Today Ms Gillard told a union conference that temporary overseas work was growing faster than employment.

She said temporary overseas worker numbers were up 20 per cent compared with the same time last year, whereas employment growth for the period was only 1 per cent.

But demographer and government adviser Peter McDonald has told 7.30 the statement does not bear scrutiny.

He says that is because the retirement of baby boomers means Australia starts each year 140,000 workers short.

“If the labour force grows by 1 per cent as the Prime Minister says, that’s about 120,000 [people],” he said.

“So we take the 120,000 growth, 140,000 we have to make up, [making a] combined 260,000 new workers that we have to get into the labour force, and 457s make up about 40,000 of that.

“I think the way the Prime Minister expressed it about growth rates, not using numbers, was really statistically misleading.”

ABC Online.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 11:34 pm
Mind you, now that anyone with a poofteenth of a percent of their DNA being identified as Aboriginal can be one, almost anyone whose family comes from west of the Divide in NSW could claim to be Aboriginal.
Much like Jason Gillespie, our “first indigenous test cricketer”. And as luck would have it, Giles is descended from the same group of indigenes as Gillespie, the Kamilaroi.

Cold-Hands

14 Mar 13 at 11:39 pm
“I keep hearing from inside the liberal party that they will appoint an ombudsman with the ability to fire transgressors.”

That’d be me and the fire would be real.
Ah ha ha ha ha.

No lodging any claims when I “fire” you.

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 11:40 pm
Mary fired a little over 280 protestants. I wonder how many lefties there are at the ABC. Did Abbott really say the could be fired or are you just telling me what you know I want to hear?

WhaleHunt Fun

14 Mar 13 at 11:48 pm
I keep hearing from inside the liberal party that they will appoint an ombudsman with the ability to fire transgressors.

I reckon that would be worse.

That’s government death by a thousand cuts

They need to make the case that a government funded media empire is utterly unnecessary in the 21Century.

Tie the money from the sale and the annual saving to funding the National Disability Insurance Scheme for example.

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 11:50 pm
James

There has to be a way of getting around it so it doesn’t become another Workchoices fest for the left.

JC

14 Mar 13 at 11:53 pm
But in all seriousness Tom. In today’s Oztraia how popular would it be to move the ownership of the ABC around? I frankly don’t see it happening and the Libs would be too timid to try that one on.

If Abbott doesn’t cut the legs out from the ABC after the disgraceful week long campaign it ran on David Marrs “wall punch” fabrication, the boosting of the mysogyny slander, etc then he’s an embarrassing softcock.

Then again I’ve been thinking about this a bit.
1. Nobody who’s going to change their mind watches the ABC.
2. The ABC’s hyper partisanship hasn’t made one whit of difference to the polls over the last two years. Not a speck.
3. The billion dollar a year leftist ABC media empire is guaranteeing that the “popular” private leftist media is permanently on life support and poverty striken.
4. The ABC hoovers up all of the leftist “talent” into one spot.

If we raze the ABC all those little communist hacks will filter out into the community – to local newspapers, to sinecures, all over the place. Creating their own papers, their own blogs, aggregators, etc some of which might even become popular.

Perhaps it’s better to leave them where they are but narrow their reach.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 12:00 am
You-tube:

Blond, blue-eyed hunk appears.

“Hello, my name is Jens, from Sweden. I am an Aboriginal. My mother, who is from Wagga Wagga in New South Wales, had an uncle with Aboriginal blood.

Soon I will be visiting Australia on a scholarship for the advancement of indigenous people. I am so happy!”

(apologies to Sven about Nordic jokes.)

johanna

15 Mar 13 at 12:08 am
She immigrated to Adelaide then moved to Melbourne

An early example of Gillard’s appalling lack of judgement.

entropy

15 Mar 13 at 12:11 am
It’s even more sinister than I thought possible:

THE federal government has designed a regulatory system for newspapers in which a part-time statutory officer, informed and advised by government officials, will have almost unfettered power to replace the Australian Press Council if it fails to control the press in a way that satisfies the new agency.

The wide powers of the proposed Public Interest Media Advocate are outlined in government bills that would establish a federal regulatory scheme for newspapers.
…
The bills would create a layered system controlled by the new PIMA, but incorporating the Press Council and other equivalent bodies that would all be vested new powers that could cripple the viability of publications that refuse to follow “remedial directions”.

The PIMA, who would be appointed for five years, on an income initially determined by the government, could not be instructed by the government, but the agency’s wide range of responsibilities indicates it may need to rely heavily on the Department of Communications, a prospect that has been foreseen and authorised by the government’s bills.

As well as regulating press standards and complaint-handling, the PIMA would have a central role in administering a new “public interest test” to determine whether transactions involving changes in control of mainstream media will result in a substantial lessening of “diversity of voices”.

The new agency will also be empowered to hold hearings and oversee online services.

Officials from the Department of Communications and other agencies will be permitted to advise the PIMA and provide information. They will also be the source of the regulator’s clerical assistance, secretariat services and other resources.

The PIMA would regulate press standards and complaint handling indirectly through its control of critical protections in the Privacy Act that are considered essential to the viability of the press.

Stalin, Mao et al were amateurs.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 12:12 am
Visited the 9/11 Memorial in NYC yesterday. It is very moving. The new towers will be beautiful – the first, 1 World Trade Centre, aka Freedom Tower, already is.

I fulfilled something I had always wanted to do, saying to three cops at the site, “my condolences to your department, I have waited a long time to come here.”

I would like every Truther nut job to be compelled to visit this site.

James in Melbourne

15 Mar 13 at 12:14 am
If we raze the ABC all those little communist hacks will filter out into the community – to local newspapers, to sinecures, all over the place. Creating their own papers, their own blogs, aggregators, etc some of which might even become popular.

Perhaps it’s better to leave them where they are but narrow their reach.

Very good points; Twostix. In this paradigm, all that needs doing is to narrow the breadth of the media empire that is the ABC: eliminate news24 and the overseas channel, but keep the rantings on the Drum, for example. And chop off a slab of its budget and insist the ‘talent’ get paid the same as APS officers.

entropy

15 Mar 13 at 12:16 am
Visited the 9/11 Memorial in NYC yesterday. It is very moving. The new towers will be beautiful – the first, 1 World Trade Centre, aka Freedom Tower, already is.

It’d want be pretty darn beautiful. Only taken them 12 years to half complete it.

Empire State was built in 18 months. Chrysler took 2 years. America used to be a can do place.

Infidel Tiger

15 Mar 13 at 12:20 am
narrow the breadth of the media empire that is the ABC

So, cancel their Urban operations as this market has many differing opinions in play. Rural only; focussed on rural matters and matters that are national/international and of grave importance; wars/storms/sporting contests.

dismissive

15 Mar 13 at 12:23 am
It’d want be pretty darn beautiful. Only taken them 12 years to half complete it.

They must have had the same builders that worked on the Sydney Opera House.

Splatacrobat

15 Mar 13 at 12:24 am
James

There has to be a way of getting around it so it doesn’t become another Workchoices fest for the left.

They have to get out on the front foot and sell.

Reagan was a salesman.

The Left are brilliant at preventing their gains from slipping whilst not in power.

This might be a significant exception

The Coalition aren’t pitted against the ALP but the institutional Left and the ALP.

Abbott knows this.

Tony has to gain the trust of voters but another issue with the ABC problem is that Turnbull is in Communications.

However he’d have the ability to reform the ABC if he put his mind to it.

Who knows? Turnbull may surprise but his first concern is the NBN

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 12:27 am
“Only taken them 12 years to half complete it.”

Lots of that was bickering about design.

Jarrah

15 Mar 13 at 12:32 am
Anyone noticed that the iPad has no fucking cache?

Why sell a product that is ostensibly used to surf the net, that HAS NO FUCKING CACHE.

Who are these skivvie wearing pinko whale loving arseholes kidding?

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:35 am
The bills would create a layered system controlled by the new PIMA, but incorporating the Press Council and other equivalent bodies that would all be vested new powers that could cripple the viability of publications that refuse to follow “remedial directions”.

So.

They’ve gone for the pure fascist model of putting a government watcher at the top of the private body.

It’s really not a very big hop from the socialist to fascist track is it?

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 12:36 am
James in Melbourne…

Is the dude on the corner there still polishing the Huge copper mural?

Man, he gives it out big time to anybody

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:37 am
Yeah, the no cache is shit.

Infidel Tiger

15 Mar 13 at 12:37 am
Anyone noticed that the iPad has no fucking cache?

Neither has Wayne Swan.

Splatacrobat

15 Mar 13 at 12:40 am
HAVING run out of interest groups in Australia to pick a fight with, the federal government now appears to have launched a war on everything. It is a development that has many Labor MPs deeply troubled.

“Until now it was hard to find a constituency we hadn’t pissed off,” said one senior caucus member after Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had dragooned his colleagues into backing his media regulations.

They cited single mums, miners, private health policy holders, people who play pokies, families who oddly like using electricity to power their homes, and the entire ethnic community. “We have also tarred and feathered every sports star in the country,” they said. “And in case people want to moan and whinge about it, we go and pick a fight with the media to shut them up.”

Yep, ’bout sums it up.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 12:40 am
It’s a fricken joke.

I tell people I love my desktop because of the terabytes, the fact i can tear bits out and replace them because they fail/need upgrading, the huge RAM and they look at me like I’m a dinosaur.

I tell them they are deranged.

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:44 am
Dan, I used to do all of that and now I just can’t be stuffed. I’ve got an iMac and an iPad and I’m happy. I have all the Unix goodness I like underneath but I don’t have to fight with the machinery when all I want to do is use the Internets and do all my audio stuff. I turn the machine over every three years (I lease mine) and be done with it.

tbh

15 Mar 13 at 12:47 am
Yep, ’bout sums it up.

Don’t forget
Smokers
Christians
Self funded retirees
Fishermen
Live stock industry

Splatacrobat

15 Mar 13 at 12:50 am
Surely time for a post on the fact that the rest of the “Climategate” emails have been released?

For those who are not completely up to speed on this, a lot of emails from the agenda-setting University of East Anglia which FOI requests could not uncover were released just before the 2009 Copenhagen conference, which tried to lock everyone into absurd “emissions reductions” which would send us all broke.

The emails revealed that the scientific basis for these suicidal policies was rubbish. It was also a nest of vipers which conspired to destroy and cut off anyone who disagreed with them.

I still think that China fully intended to sink Copenhagen, whatever. But the release of the emails was very damaging, as they showed how Western alarmists lied and fudged data and suppressed opponents for “the Cause.”

Anyway, in a landmark event in social media, the person who provided the original emails has provided the rest – 220,000 of them – to a small group of bloggers. It is an extraordinary event. Once upon a time, a leading newspaper would have got this scoop. Not only that, but the bloggers are being trusted to remove personal details before release.

It’s a big thing.

Jo Nova and WUWT have further details.

johanna

15 Mar 13 at 12:51 am
Conroy’s crusade has been such a disaster for the government this week that one senior NSW Labor Party figure asked whether he had in fact struck a secret pact with Liberal director Brian Loughnane to drive Labor’s vote down below 30 per cent.

Oakeshotte and Windsor could put the ALP out of its misery at any time.

Yet they don’t. Like true socialist giant killers those boys from the bush are hanging in there – wide eyed, white knuckled, teeth clenched they’re going to see this madness through to the end. They want nothing less than to go down in history as the men who alone… destroyed the Labor party.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 12:53 am
Richardson: Rudd camp wants to get rid of Gillard next week.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 12:54 am
terabytes

Pfft.

EMC Corporation has today announced that it is providing 2.8 petabytes of storage to help the Vatican Apostolic Library digitize its entire catalogue of historic manuscripts and incunabula (a book or pamphlet printed before 1501). One of the oldest libraries in the world, the Vatican Apostolic Library holds many of the rarest and most valuable documents in existence including the 42 line Latin Bible of Gutenberg, the first book printed with movable type and dating between 1451 and 1455.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 1:03 am
Richardson: Rudd camp wants to get rid of Gillard next week.

The problem is that people will be so relieved to be free from the current illegitimate communist regime that they’ll go overboard in the appreciation to the “saviour”. Meaning a big poll boost for Labor thanks to the weird little man who eats his earwax in public.

Will it save Labor though?

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 1:08 am
Rats. The logical time to move on Gillard was during the Ides of March.

Cold-Hands

15 Mar 13 at 1:25 am
When did Letterman become a democrat?

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 1:35 am
When did Letterman become a democrat?

He’s not a democrat, he just loves tonguing hairy dem ass and the blacker the better

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 1:40 am
JamesK, that comment says a lot more about your fantasies than it does about his.

What is it about some blokes and bums? They think they are so disgusting, that they can’t stop talking about them, at length and in detail.

Just pop the finger up the fundament and go to bed, old chap.

johanna

15 Mar 13 at 1:50 am
Sorry johanna I thought we we were at the lowest common denominator with the ‘question’ itself.

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 2:00 am
He’s not a democrat, he just loves tonguing hairy dem ass and the blacker the better

You are very unwell, JamesK, not very wholesome or Christian it seems.

Fisky

15 Mar 13 at 2:17 am
You are very unwell, JamesK, not very wholesome or Christian it seems.

I claimed neither Fisky.

But unlike you I’m a serious person.

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 2:44 am
But unlike you I’m a serious person.

Surely you can’t be serious?

I am, and don’t call me Shirley!

Splatacrobat

15 Mar 13 at 6:43 am
Roger

WhaleHunt Fun

15 Mar 13 at 6:53 am
It has been one of the most successful marketing campaigns in Australian government history: a no-strings-attached invitation to welfare benefits equivalent to professional salaries in their countries of origin for illegal immigrants:

THE number of asylum-seekers coming to Australia by boat surged in the first 2 1/2 months of this year, with a 55 per cent spike in arrivals compared to the same period last year.

Almost 1900 people have arrived in the first 73 days of this year, compared with 1209 for the same period last year, which ultimately saw a record of more than 17,200 people arriving in Australia by boat to claim asylum.

So far this year, 36 boats have arrived in Australian waters, compared with 16 during the same period last year.

Opposition border protection spokesman Michael Keenan said the increase was the result of Labor’s decision to unwind policies put in place under former prime minister John Howard, including processing visa claims in other countries.

“This year could be another record. Success breeds success, so the more people that get down here successfully using people-smugglers, then the more people who will seek out the service of a people-smuggler,” he said.

“It always gets worse until a government has the resolve to do something about it.”

Where do the rabble line up to collect their prize?

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 6:56 am
We deposit electronically into their account.
No queueing.

WhaleHunt Fun

15 Mar 13 at 7:02 am
The Slapper government and information minister Benito Conroy earn lavish praise from Fiji’s military dictatorship:

FIJI’S military ruler Frank Bainimarama and his regime say they are “flattered” Australia has followed the rogue Pacific nation and proposed a crackdown on press freedom.

Those who fled Bainimarama’s rule yesterday said the architect of Fiji’s 2010 media decree would be “laughing” at the Australian government and Communications Minister Stephen Conroy.

Leading government figures, such as Prime Minister Julia Gillard and her predecessor Kevin Rudd, have launched savage attacks on Fiji’s ruler for dispensing with democracy and a free press. Bainimarama’s spokeswoman, Fiji’s Ministry of Information secretary Sharon Smith Johns, said the Pacific nation appeared to have paved the way for Australia: “When we implemented some of the same provisions in our Media Decree two years ago, we were roundly criticised for suppressing media freedom.

“Yet it now appears, from Labor’s proposed legislation, that it actually regards us as pioneers.

“We’re flattered that Australia is emulating our lead but wonder why Fiji was subjected to such prolonged protest at the time from Labor, the unions and elements of the Australian media.”

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 7:04 am
Priceless. Gillard lauded by Pauline, and now Bainimarama

WhaleHunt Fun

15 Mar 13 at 7:07 am
Is she their love child?

WhaleHunt Fun

15 Mar 13 at 7:08 am
Turnbull is demolishing Benito’s media power grab on 2GB with AJ as we speak.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 7:27 am
Meanwhile, ShakeMyHead.com is playing elevator music, refusing to give prominence to the media crackdown because its competitor and Australia’s biggest media company is treating it as the story of the year. The fact that Benito’s News Limited vendetta now threatens the prime ministers’s leadership is a minor story with a tiny headline down the page at ShakeMyHead. Laughable.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 7:40 am
The bills would create a layered system controlled by the new PIMA, but incorporating the Press Council and other equivalent bodies that would all be vested new powers that could cripple the viability of publications that refuse to follow “remedial directions”.

Hmm. Where have I seen this before?

Well well! I see that the Lying Slapper and Commie Conroy have returned to their beloved political and intellectual roots.

This has close parallels to the system used by Walther Funk in 1933 when establishing the Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda (the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda) . They did not care who owned the media, they cared what it said.

Sound familiar, Herr Reichspropagandaleiter Conroy?

…the Propaganda Ministry were shown by the divisions Goebbels soon established: Press, radio, film, theatre, music, literature, and publishing. In each of these, a Reichskammer (Reich Chamber) was established, co-opting leading figures from the field (usually not known Nazis) to head each Chamber, and requiring them to …

I even found a nice document which Herr Reichspropagandaleiter Conroy can use for the structure of his revamped Ministry!

The Central Party Propaganda
Office of the ~~National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP)~~ ALP

The propaganda of the ~~NSDAP~~ ALP, its subsidiaries and affiliated organizations is the responsibility of ~~the~~ Reichspropagandaleiter Conroy, given the authority as a Reichsleiter by the ~~Führer~~ Lying Slapper for all propaganda. He is responsible for the entire public work of the movement, including its subsidiaries and affiliated organizations in ~~the German Reich~~ Australia, including the carrying out of the ~~Führer’s~~ Lying Slapper’s will on the part of the party apparatus and its subsidiaries and affiliated organizations. He is also responsible for the whole ~~German radio system’s~~ ABC’s organizational, cultural, and economic development, for the spreading of the National Socialist worldview to the entire ~~German~~ Australian people, and for explaining the accomplishments of the party and the state.

The press and film are at his disposal in securing these aims.

To ensure the systematic coordination of the entire propaganda apparatus, he is at the top of an organization that reaches down to the smallest local office, and is organized as follows:

Reichspropaganda-Leitung = RPL
Gaupropaganda-Leitung = GPL
Kreispropaganda-Leitung = KPL
Ortsgruppenpropaganda-Leitung = OGPL
Stützpunktpropaganda-Leitung = StPL

The seat of the Reichspropagandaleitung is in ~~Munich~~ Canberra.

The Reichspropagandaleitung is headed by Reichspropagandaleiter Minister ~~Dr. Goebbels~~ Steven Conroy.

His closest assistant is the Deputy Reichspropagandaleiter, who is also chief of staff of the RPL and the personal aide of the Reichspropagandaleiter.

There are five divisions of the Reichspropagandaleitung:

1. Active Propaganda
2. Film
3. Radio
4. Culture
5. Coordination
…

See the rest at this http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/rpl.htm, some of these parallels are rather…. interesting.

How’s this for Herr Reichspropagandaleiter Conroy’s new ALP motto? Gewerkschaften ja, Juden Raus!

Why, there’s even a catchy song he can use.

Mk50 of Brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 8:01 am
We’re flattered that Australia is emulating our lead but wonder why Fiji was subjected to such prolonged protest at the time from Labor

The Telegraph should make an ongoing series like this from various regimes around the world supportive of Conroy’s proposal…

But yes, priceless.

Driftforge

15 Mar 13 at 8:12 am
Peter Martin reports that Gillard in effect misled the House about the employment figures. The ABS briefed the government about biases that caused a likely inflated figure for jobs growth, advising that the trend estimate should be used. Gillard ignored the advice and announced the much bigger seasonally adjusted figure in Parliament. Martin makes no mitigation in his article, but the sub editor has captioned the picture of Jools “victim of variables”. Apparently the ABS is victimizing the PM. Straw-clutching to exonerate her dishonesty.

Keith

15 Mar 13 at 8:22 am
I know others have pointed to this, but it’s no wonder trolls like Monty and Dogshit identify with the worse government in Australian history:

“Until now it was hard to find a constituency we hadn’t pissed off,” said one senior caucus member after Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had dragooned his colleagues into backing his media regulations.

They cited single mums, miners, private health policy holders, people who play pokies, families who oddly like using electricity to power their homes, and the entire ethnic community. “We have also tarred and feathered every sports star in the country,” they said. “And in case people want to moan and whinge about it, we go and pick a fight with the media to shut them up.”

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 8:55 am
Lefty grandma chick tries desperately to demonstrate that she’s still “hip to da yoof” and fails miserably.

Give it away, Cass. Young people are and always have been, sheep.

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 9:12 am
Did Goose go to his musical master’s Concert last night in Brisbane??

Mike of Marion

15 Mar 13 at 9:20 am
There is no better way of knowing you are on the right path when you can walk into a lefty infestation and not only hold your own, but whip the losers back into subjugation.

I’d say doing this is far from pointless.

Given I had limited time to engage them, trawling through their responses to react took too much time. And every so often I would Google my name and discovered that Lambert’s 2004 post on me would always hit 4th in ranking. That it kept doing that for years while oceans swept under the bridge left me with the uncomfortable feeling he had some way of influencing Google ratings. Once I realised this, I gave up, which you tend to do when in a full time day job; time would support my position on climate, which it subsequently has.

Louis Hissink

15 Mar 13 at 9:30 am
There’s murmurs in the US that Obama is travelling down the centrally planned economy model

March 14, 2013
Santiago, Chile

Five-year plans in the Land of the Free? Apparently it’s not that far off from reality.

Yesterday Senator Tom Harkin introduced S. 544, “a bill to require the President to develop a comprehensive national manufacturing strategy.”

In effect, Senator Harkin wants the President to centrally plan the economy. Never mind that the President has zero experience in business or manufacturing. But hey, this worked out so well for Stalinist Russia, it’s no wonder Mr. Harkin wants to copy that model.

Seems we are heading straight into the delights of the planned economy as well – but in our own, bumbling inimitable style.

Not good.

Louis Hissink

15 Mar 13 at 9:38 am
The construction cranes in NYC fly the IUS flag.

In Australia they fly the CFMEU tea-towel.

I know which looks better.

James in New York

James in Melbourne

15 Mar 13 at 9:38 am
@ Keith 15 Mar 13 at 8:22 am

I have been interviewed many times by the ABS re household employment status and had always answered honestly.

However, since my husband died, I still have a ‘partner’ – term used by interviewer – in full time employment. When this lie started, it was because I didn’t realise it was the ABS and I wasn’t prepared to admit to someone I didn’t know, that I lived alone.

At the end of my last interview, and it will be the last, I was asked my name and when I commented there was no need for it, I was told my and my husband’s names. I said “If you say so” and hung up.

Within 40 minutes I had 3 phone calls, 2 asking for my husband by his given name and 1 asking for Mr X.

The $6 I spend each month on caller ID is my best investment yet. Now all Private numbers go to the answering machine, and surprise, surprise, I receive very few messages.

How many other people don’t answer the question truthfully? I have never been told “This is the Australian Bureau of Statistics and we are compiling stats on the rates of employment in the community” It doesn’t help the calls are from heavily accented callers.

eam

15 Mar 13 at 9:41 am
Wayne Swan – Dim light bulb, no cache.

pete m

15 Mar 13 at 10:03 am
FIJI’S military ruler Frank Bainimarama and his regime say they are “flattered” Australia has followed the rogue Pacific nation and proposed a crackdown on press freedom.

Those who fled Bainimarama’s rule yesterday said the architect of Fiji’s 2010 media decree would be “laughing” at the Australian government and Communications Minister Stephen Conroy.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 10:12 am
Oh dear. Australia’s bourgeois left national broadcaster and the ruling Chinese communist left have had a falling out:

A growing electronic blitzkrieg by Beijing – blasted by Barack Obama as ”state sponsored” hacking and now extending to the jamming of Australia’s radio news broadcasts in Asia – threatens to derail delicate negotiations for the ABC to win television rights in China.

ABC managing director Mark Scott and chairman James Spigelman are expected in China next month to launch a major children’s program co-production with Chinese state television. The trip is also another chance to lobby Chinese officials in long-frustrated efforts for the ABC to win access rights for television broadcasts in the 1.3 billion-strong market.

But the goal has been further complicated after China was accused of deliberately jamming Radio Australia broadcasts in Asia over recent weeks, a move that will also compound fears about Beijing’s aggressive attempts to hack Western computer networks.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 10:24 am
Anyone noticed that the iPad has no fucking cache?

Neither has Wayne Swan.

New keyboard required……………..

Obio

15 Mar 13 at 10:24 am
Has anyone explained to the rapidly dimming Glimmer Twin that the Minister for Defence is responsible for going to war against other people, not his own Department?

H B Bear

15 Mar 13 at 10:32 am
After the week that saw Julia Gillard move to ban a free press, Labor spokesman Barrie Cassidy writes a weird dual jeremiad about politics and sport.

In the House of Representatives, foul-mouthed demonstrators shouted abuse at the Prime Minister before being ejected. And across town, rugby league star Josh Dugan sat on the roof of his house drinking alcohol and tweeting photographs to his mates.

Whatever her failings, the Prime Minister did not deserve such disrespect, and neither did Dugan’s Canberra Raiders teammates. But such behaviour, it seems, is endemic right now.

Yes. She did.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 10:58 am
Septimus:

Symfonia – In Paradisum

Is good.

Mk50 of Brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 11:05 am
The government rabble is now emitting a crude, irrational appeal to the senses of moochers, luvvies and union factions to torch the landscape for an incoming enemy government. Dennis Shanahan:

IT’S hard not to believe that the Gillard government is now so convinced of defeat that it is ensuring Labor’s traditional enemies – big business, billionaires, media barons, Liberal states, big tobacco, mining and, of course, Tony Abbott and the Coalition – will inherit a poisoned well if the ALP does lose.

It is also clear Labor wants to do whatever favours it can for the union movement and its leaders so as to entrench union power as a third force to operate against an Abbott government and aid what would be a substantially weakened parliamentary Labor Party.

For Julia Gillard and Wayne Swan the extra advantage in bonding to the present union leadership is that it will help stave off any move to restore Kevin Rudd and encourage unions to assist in an election campaign appealing to the Labor base on job security.

There is also the tactical advantage that warmly welcomed initiatives, confrontational policies and overblown populist rhetoric will give the impression the government is doing “something” and will distract attention from the government’s hastening slide into an anarchy of confusion.

This is the national government. Frightening. RTWT.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 11:26 am
Utter Garbage

Journalism academics have been, and always will be, supporters of freedom of speech—the foundation for an independent and free media. To accuse journalism educators of anything less is an insult to an entire profession. However, we will not remain silent when unethical behaviour in certain sectors of the news media threatens the integrity of the whole. Part of our brief as both practitioners and researchers is to engage in public debate beyond the confines of industry and our universities. This is what we have done in our discussions about the Finkelstein report, and we will continue to do so.

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 11:29 am
Ol’ Leathery just joins a lot of Labor people with a very bad case of buyers remorse,

And the more prime ministers, premiers and chief ministers are chopped down by their parties midterm, the more the public loses faith in the political processes and, indeed, in democracy itself.

The Ol’ster might find that faith in democracy is actually diminished when Big Bill Ludwig and Piggy Howes decide it it time Australia has a new Prime Minister.

H B Bear

15 Mar 13 at 11:36 am
the Prime Minister did not deserve such disrespect

1000 dead and a race riot on her c.v., for starters, because of her hatred of Howard and Abbott.

Ivan Denisovich

15 Mar 13 at 11:37 am
Dan, that list of signatories, oy vey! It seems there are more people teaching journalism than are left in newsrooms.

Of course they should be charged with fraud and false pretenses. How dare they take money to prepare students for jobs they will never get upon graduation — jobs that have vanished in no small part because of the cant and groupthink those same academics instill in their charges.

areff

15 Mar 13 at 11:42 am
It has that whiff of “we are your betters, do as we say”

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 11:51 am
Mk50.

Good morning. Yes, Symfonia – In Paradisum is good

Septimus

15 Mar 13 at 11:55 am
the Prime Minister did not deserve such disrespect

No. The parliament did not deserve such disprespect, including the abuse yelled out to Tony Abbott the same time but of course that gets no mention by the media.
In any case, when gillard behaves like a PM instead of a trumped up union puppet who is hell bent on destroying this country out of her hatred for Abbott/Howard and her spite for those that are not Labor voters, then, maybe, she’ll get respect. Nah, she’ll never get respect, she’s done far too much damage.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 11:59 am
From the Dumb’s meeja quackademics’ letter to the Oz:

If the Australian public believe* the current accountability system for the press in Australia to be satisfactory (self–‐regulation via the Australian Press Council), this inquiry would never have happened.

You filthy, dishonest whores!

Lardarse, Bozo Brown, the nuclear milkman and the rest of the goat rodeo are solely responsible for the creation of this fascist Frankenstein.

How dare you claim that this living abortion was in some way sought by the Australian public.

FFS.

*Is this a typo? “believed”, perhaps?

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 12:01 pm
How dare they take money to prepare students for jobs they will never get upon graduation

Not true. They get jobs in government ‘communications’ units.

Steve of Ferny Hills

15 Mar 13 at 12:01 pm
…Or film reviewer in MX.

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:03 pm
After the week that saw Julia Gillard move to ban a free press, Labor spokesman Barrie Cassidy writes a weird dual jeremiad about politics and sport.

A week after we find out Cassidy was hangs out with his good mate Tim on the Taxpayers dime at a sporting events while Tim embarrasses everyone while mouthing off about Tony Abbott he writes about…sport?

Have these people any shame AT ALL?

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 12:10 pm
Sanctimonious egotistical buttheads with no level of self-awareness have no capacity for shame.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 12:13 pm
In the House of Representatives, foul-mouthed demonstrators shouted abuse at the Prime Minister before being ejected

I thought they yelled out Liar. Is the four letter word liar now a swear word?

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:18 pm
Journalism academics have been, and always will be, supporters of freedom of speech—the foundation for an independent and free media. To accuse journalism educators of anything less is an insult to an entire profession. However, we will not remain silent when unethical behaviour in certain sectors of the news media threatens the integrity of the whole.

The corruption of journalist training in this country is now almost complete. Here we have the trainers, who have wrestled control of the schools from the industry itself over the past 30 years, now taking the side of the government against the biggest media company* in the country. Their job is to train undergraduates to get jobs. Instead they have set themselves up as activist gatekeepers of media content that suits their political world view. As Areff says, the industry, by and large, hates the riff-raff that is being presented to them by university campuses after their indoctrination in fashionable groupthink causes.

* News Ltd employes 14,000 people. After last year’s mass retrenchments, Fairfax has about 8000 and the ABC 4600. Fairfax’s number of journalists was last year halved from 800 to 400. Last year Fairfax lost $2.7 billion on massive writedowns of the value of its newspapers. The ABC “loses” $1.2 billion p.a., while eating Fairfax’s lunch. News Limited is profitable because it has lost the least readership to the internet and is best adapted to keep its readership as it moves to new platforms as it uses a tried-and-true formula to serve its editorial markets.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 12:25 pm
Open letter to The Australian from journalism academics: However, we will not remain silent when unethical behaviour in certain sectors of the news media threatens the integrity of the whole.

ALP Media of course is always ethical!

stackja

15 Mar 13 at 12:28 pm
Just told a soft left Tutor that Marxism is irrelevant to modern society, especially western society and outlined society’s rejection of Marx ideas. The expression on the Tutor’s face was priceless.

Andrew

15 Mar 13 at 12:40 pm
I hope you enjoy repeating that subject, Andrew.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 12:41 pm
Here it is folks, the Centre for Advanced Journalism

Our Mission

To measurably improve the quality of journalism practice to the benefit of the community it serves.
To foster a dialogue involving journalists, the university community, including students, and the general public about the role of the media and the challenges confronting the media today.
To produce innovative and high quality research that contributes to contemporary understandings of journalism and contemporary journalism practice.
To offer short courses for journalists and media executives that takes advantage of the University of Melbourne’s cutting edge expertise and knowledge resources across a wide range of areas.

Hilarious, vacuous

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:45 pm
Don’t worry gab, the assessments are not going to allow me to be political and the subject is just a one off unit which nobody cares about.

Andrew

15 Mar 13 at 12:50 pm
Stay safe, Andrew. You know what they’re like and how ruthless they are.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 12:52 pm
Dan, I can throw eggs at this journalism centre in a matter of minutes if you would like?

Andrew

15 Mar 13 at 12:52 pm
the Prime Minister did not deserve such disrespect

Unless Gillard makes a full and frank apology to Michael Smith for the deliberate mistatements she made on the record in parliament, she deserves all the contempt she is give

Token

15 Mar 13 at 12:54 pm
Not eggs, some kind off DaDa prank would be appropriate for an Arts Faculty, if they’re intelligent enough to get it

Dan

15 Mar 13 at 12:56 pm
Pranks indicate an independent mind — an anathema to the delinquent left. If it’s genuinely funny, it would simply puzzle them because they wouldn’t understand it.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 1:00 pm
Only this year 14 kids were stoned to death by Shi’ite militants in Baghdad for being fans of punk music. In Burma No U Turn and Rebel Riot play to audiences of grateful kids and badly disguised undercover police. The closing court statements of Russian punks Pussy Riot remain heart-breaking promises to fight the artistic censorship that succours political oppression.

It’s easy to be underwhelmed by incremental encroachments on freedom and characterise concern as hysteria. When the Minister says The Daily Telegraph’s front page is an overreaction to the specific proposals he is correct. But the Telegraph is reacting not just to the detail of today’s proposal but to every future oppression whose way may be paved by us underreacting to today’s assault.

Overreacting to press censorship is the duty of every freedom-loving person. As a friend told me years ago when leaving her abusive boyfriend, “nobody punches you on the first date”. Or as Monty Python said, “nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition”.

Well said, Cassandra.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 1:02 pm
The joke will be on them when eggs are thrown at them. Not that hard to work that out. I could create a poster of Tony Abbott with the ‘I’m coming for you’ style shot as he uses the News Media Regulator to fuck them over.

Andrew

15 Mar 13 at 1:12 pm
Peter Beattie: Gillard a lying idiot on 457s.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 1:18 pm
I could create a poster of Tony Abbott with the ‘I’m coming for you’ style shot as he uses the News Media Regulator to fuck them over.

I’ve been wondering whether I can get a short term rental an empty office overlooking the staff entry at the ABC centre in Ultimo so I can place a similar sign in the window during the election campaign.

Token

15 Mar 13 at 1:23 pm
Oops:

Lancet publishes new Iraq War death toll.

Then: 654,965.

Now: 116,000.

So they were out by more than half a million.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 1:25 pm
A long list of corporation jokes.

Samples

A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organize a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.

A GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You re-engineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you don’t know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

California
You have two Cows, they get married and adopt a Bull who is Gay.

Pakistani Corporation.
You borrow two cows from world bank.
politicians milk cows and drink the milk until cows are dead. After 10yrs you owe 20 cows to world banks.

A Brazilian Corporation
The State Enterprise has two cows, which are running too much deficit.
The State sells one cow to the private sector for the price of one donkey. The other cow is disputed on justice, among public and private sector, traditional families and a civil group, which will take 25 years.
The private sector, who now owns the only cow that people know where it is, charges the population for the milk of a pricey exclusive Himalayan goat.

The Papua New Guinean Corporation
You have two cows.Your in-laws kills one and distribute it amongst their extended family. You sell the other one for the price of a carton of beer. Of the 24 bottles in the carton, you only drink 4, while ur parasitic brothers in-law drinks the rest with your buddies.In your case it seemed unfair, so you take your in-laws to court. The Judge would formally welcome you again to the country and add “Expect the unexpected Son”.

Poor Old Rafe

15 Mar 13 at 1:29 pm
Rick Perry at CPAC hits it out of the park, slams RINO losers John McCain and Mitt Romney, discusses media myth of flagging conservatism.

Video.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 1:34 pm
Oops:
Lancet publishes new Iraq War death toll.
Then: 654,965.
Now: 116,000.
So they were out by more than half a million.

C.L.
15 Mar 13 at 1:25 pm

Someone remind me, wasn’t there a former IT lecturer peddling the higher figure and attempting put d

JC

15 Mar 13 at 1:35 pm
Apart from fries, we’d like a link with that.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 1:36 pm
CL.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 1:38 pm
Oops:
Lancet publishes new Iraq War death toll.
Then: 654,965.
Now: 116,000.
So they were out by more than half a million.

C.L.
15 Mar 13 at 1:25 pm

Someone remind me, wasn’t there a former IT lecturer peddling the higher figure and attempting put down anyone who disagreed that the
Death toll wasn’t compounding at 30% daily. Where is that nut ball as he has a lot to answer for.
It’s not as though he’s short of time these days.

Lambert, get over here and apologise, you nimrod.

The nimbus was peddling the fraudulent figure for years . Years!

Clown

JC

15 Mar 13 at 1:39 pm
Rick Perry link not working CL

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 1:41 pm
Rick Perry at CPAC hits it out of the park, slams RINO losers John McCain and Mitt Romney, discusses media myth of flagging conservatism.

Was a real shame his bad back screwed him during the Primaries.

Infidel Tiger

15 Mar 13 at 1:41 pm
I could create a poster of Tony Abbott with the ‘I’m coming for you’ style shot as he uses the News Media Regulator to fuck them over.

A poster of a puppet Andrew Bolt sitting as judge, strings controlled by a shady caricature of Abbott with The Age, David Marr and Green Left Weekly in the dock.

Or again with the Bolt puppet theme but him holding a thick black marker and reading The Age with whole sentences crossed out and with Abbott pulling strings saying: “not in the public interest”.

The dumb fucks still won’t get it though as they think it’s definitely going to be them in Bolts position and The Age and DT in their hands.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 1:43 pm
The journalism ‘academics’ certainly have a hide.

Since when (a) do you need a degree in journalism to be a good journo; and (b) are these over-entitled wankers in charge of what working journos, their editors, and proprietors do?

Their long-term objective is clear. They want to be an accredited ‘profession’ like law or medicine and then set up standards and disciplinary bodies staffed by – guess who? And funded by – guess who? (Hint – not themselves).

Communications should be at most a couple of units in an Arts degree, or perhaps even a significant component of a technology course. The rest is pure, self-serving wankery.

Thanks to the funding model invented by the Federal Government, universities have incentives to offer so-called ‘degrees’ in anything that generates subsidised ‘customers’ – including hippie quackery like herbal remedies and massage.

johanna

15 Mar 13 at 1:45 pm
Was a real shame his bad back screwed him during the Primaries.

You could almost hear the conservative-last-hope-baloon deflate when Perry self-immolated (his back) from the other side of the world.

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 1:47 pm
@9:38 am – I meant to say, ‘the US flag.”

James in Melbourne

15 Mar 13 at 1:48 pm
Rick Perry link.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 1:53 pm
Someone remind me, wasn’t there a former IT lecturer peddling the higher figure and attempting put down anyone who disagreed that the
Death toll wasn’t compounding at 30% daily. Where is that nut ball as he has a lot to answer for.

Yeah, that rings a bell…

What was his name… um …

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 1:57 pm
I highly doubt Perry would’ve done a better job in 2012 than Romney, so he should keep his trap shut when it comes to that particular matter. Rand Paul was better than Rubio in actually fleshing out how the GOP can move forward after last year’s setback:

The GOP of old has grown stale and moss-covered. I don’t think we need to name any names, do we? Our party is encumbered by an inconsistent approach to freedom. The new GOP will need to embrace liberty in both the economic and the personal sphere. If we’re going to have a Republican party that can win, liberty needs to be the backbone of the GOP. We must have a message that is broad, our vision must be broad, and that vision must be based on freedom.

Damn right.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 1:57 pm
It’s a damning indictment of the state of the culture that in order to get the left to not support the authoritarian suppression of the media we have to try and “scare” them with scenarios that appeal to their infuckingsane conspiracies rather than reality.

The reality:

Abbott and the right outright reject any legislation regulating any private media and always have and always will.

The left absolutely support the muzzling of any press they don’t like.

So in order to convince them not to regulate the media we have to slander ourselves and venture into (and so validate) their nutbag conspiracies that we can’t be trusted with the power so they shouldn’t support it not because they will abuse it (like themselves they say they will) but because we will (but in reality won’t as we will give the power back).

We’re like hostages bargaining for our lives with a madman.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 1:59 pm
It’s a damning indictment of the state of the culture that in order to get the left to not support the authoritarian suppression of the media we have to try and “scare” them with scenarios that appeal to their infuckingsane conspiracies rather than reality.

They’re right to be worried. I’d have no hesitation in hacking their heads off and then knocking back a few schooners.

Infidel Tiger

15 Mar 13 at 2:06 pm
It’s a damning indictment of the state of the culture that in order to get the left to not support the authoritarian suppression of the media we have to try and “scare” them with scenarios that appeal to their infuckingsane conspiracies rather than reality.

You are preaching to inferior minds therefore you need to bring it down to their level where they can see the consequences of what might happen.

Andrew

15 Mar 13 at 2:07 pm
Hehe you sound like this gentle fellow, IT.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 2:09 pm
Perry’s problem is that he was an inarticulate bumbler who seemed to overdose on dexamphetamines at one point. He gave a very strange speech where he was giggling the whole time and making funny faces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJv-2qfDNc

Fisky

15 Mar 13 at 2:09 pm
The new GOP will need to embrace liberty in both the economic and the personal sphere.

Yep. The limits to ‘personal’ freedom in the US are immense.

dover_beach

15 Mar 13 at 2:10 pm
And most people seem to like it that way, Dover, so maybe the GOP shouldn’t try to swim against the tide if it wants to get elected?

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 2:13 pm
No! The GOP should run ads with the slogan “BAN CONTRACEPTION!”, preferably with an angry shouty Irishman as their poster boy. That would be enormously popular with the voters.

Fisky

15 Mar 13 at 2:17 pm
Ann Coulter promised that a socially progressive Mormon couldn’t lose, that he’d be huge amongst Southern Baptists.

It was so brilliant that it’s really difficult to understand where it went wrong.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 2:23 pm
Perry’s problem is that he was an inarticulate bumbler who seemed to overdose on dexamphetamines at one point.

He was high on painkillers I believe. I saw him and Rick Santorum freebasing Oxy before one of the debates.

Infidel Tiger

15 Mar 13 at 2:23 pm
You could almost hear the conservative-last-hope-baloon deflate when Perry self-immolated

Sucks when counting to three is beyond you.

DriftForge

15 Mar 13 at 2:25 pm
No! The GOP should run ads with the slogan “BAN CONTRACEPTION!”, preferably with an angry shouty Irishman as their poster boy. That would be enormously popular with the voters.

The whole “focussing like a laser on the economy” thing has gone really well for the last two elections.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 2:28 pm
And most people seem to like it that way, Dover, so maybe the GOP shouldn’t try to swim against the tide if it wants to get elected?

I don’t seem them running against any tide, at the moment.

dover_beach

15 Mar 13 at 2:29 pm
The GOP should seek to criminalize homosexuality as well. That’s another winning ‘social issue’ for the right.

Fisky

15 Mar 13 at 2:31 pm
The whole “focussing like a laser on the economy” thing has gone really well for the last two elections.

Not really, because they couldn’t. Obama’s going to name his next child (or dog) Sandy Akin Mourdock.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 2:40 pm
The Romney campaign itself was very disciplined about focussing on the economy. Pity about the friendly fire.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 2:42 pm
I don’t seem them running against any tide, at the moment.

No, they stay mum and allow the left to paint them as closet social cons. Rand Paul’s making the case for openly and consistently advocating liberty.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 2:44 pm
How come a billionaire believer in golden tablets, special longjohns and magic spectacles didn’t get out the vote in Elvis country?

It’s a puzzle. I JUST DON’T KNOW.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 2:44 pm
The GOP should seek to criminalize homosexuality as well. That’s another winning ‘social issue’ for the right.

It’s weird hearing serial election losers talking about what it takes to “win” elections.

Here’s a new and novel idea, how about next election we support a moderate obscenely rich man who only talks about jobs and the economy no matter what the left says.

A winning strategy for sure!

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 2:45 pm
No, he lost because large numbers of Republicans just didn’t vote.

dover_beach

15 Mar 13 at 2:46 pm
I was devastated that Romney did not appoint both Akin and Mourdock co-Vice Presidents on his ticket. Millions of voters are very concerned about natural methods of rape contraception, as well as the varying degrees of legitimacy in rape itself. Romney made a huge strategic error in not highlighting these bread-and-butter issues.

Fisky

15 Mar 13 at 2:50 pm
Not really, because they couldn’t. Obama’s going to name his next child (or dog) Sandy Akin Mourdock.

Er yeah.

That’s why Romney lost.

Because of one comment by some nutter candidate in the south.

The perfect candidate to support next election though is definitely Jeb Bush. Make sure he focusses like a laser on the economy no matter what the left says. A definite winning strategy, like the last election, and the one before that.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 2:51 pm
The argument over why Romney lost is pointless, simply because the list of reasons that are sufficient to have resulted in a loss is so long. It wasn’t just one thing.

DriftForge

15 Mar 13 at 3:01 pm
Millions of voters are very concerned about natural methods of rape contraception, as well as the varying degrees of legitimacy in rape itself. Romney made a huge strategic error in not highlighting these bread-and-butter issues.

Obama, Gillard and the mainstream left vocally support killing healthy, kicking full term babies on the operating table for no reason.

Do you think perhaps knowing things like that might turn people away from the revolting left? That the top echelons of the left are more extreme than the extreme edges of the right might be something that people would like to know?

But we’re not allowed to talk about things like that, oh the squealing, it’s “embarrasing” for the economy only lot to have to anywhere near any icky “christians”. No, the economy only serial election losers have got the wheel and it’ll be about the economy only or nothing. Like it’s been for two elections now.

twostix

15 Mar 13 at 3:02 pm
Here’s a new and novel idea, how about next election we support a moderate obscenely rich man who only talks about jobs and the economy no matter what the left says.

OK, knives away for a second. I’m not denying that Romney was not an optimal choice, or that his ‘focus like a laser on the economy’ strategy wasn’t the best he could have chosen. I do believe, however, that a social conservative platform and candidate would have done far worse. Primarily, however, I am advocating Rand Paul’s approach as spelled out in his CPAC address, which differs markedly from that of Romney or Santorum (assuming the latter would have run a SoCon platform). The fact that Romney wasn’t the best candidate the GOP could’ve fielded last year is not germane to the discussion.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 3:05 pm
Mad dog media law must go through or else, says Benito:

COMMUNICATIONS Minister Stephen Conroy is refusing to back away from his “take it or leave it” deadline for passage of his media reforms, saying the debate over the policy has dragged on too long.

Senator Conroy is demanding the bill pass the parliament by the end of next week or the reforms will be junked.

The approach is in stark contrast to his position in 2006, when he accused the former Howard government of a “disgraceful” attempt to “gag” debate because it restricted an inquiry on its media bills to three weeks.

Senator Conroy today denied he was seeking to fast-track his media bills to prevent a prolonged war with media proprietors.

He said the reports underpinning the bills had received hundreds of submissions and been the subject of hours of public consultation.

“For people to suggest that there hasn’t been an effective debate about this around the country, they’re just ignoring the facts,” he told ABC radio.
“The bills are there, people have been aware of the policy issues, we’re having discussions with all of the minor parties, and we’re in a position where the vote will be next week.”

Labor is losing ground in its fight to overhaul the media as independent MPs turn against the plans and critics warn of growing confusion over changes meant to be rammed through parliament in a week.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 3:06 pm
Andrew
If you’re a Uni sutdent and you haven’t got this book then you’re a fool to yourself and a burden on the nation.

The Little Black School Book.

Pickles

15 Mar 13 at 3:07 pm
Er yeah.

That’s why Romney lost.

Because of one comment by some nutter candidate in the south.

Well, it was two comments from two candidates. And they most certainly didn’t help. Considering the wafer thin margin of defeat (50,000 extra votes spread over 4 states and Romney would have got up), it’s perfectly plausible that those two comments plus the ammunition they gave the left and the Media Industrial Complex resulted in a Romney defeat.

I also credited Hurricane Sandy in the name of Barack Obama’s next pet. Which would be an improvement on the moniker of his current pooch, which he so modestly named after himself.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 3:09 pm
Well said, Fisky. Another winning slogan would be “ban women with children aged under 15 from the workforce.”

You know it makes sense.

johanna

15 Mar 13 at 3:14 pm
Mad dog media law must go through or else

I’m not entirely sure what he hopes to achieve by threatening self harm.

DriftForge

15 Mar 13 at 3:19 pm
More Papola for Steve Kates

“Scott,

Favorite. Post. Ever.

Now, can we unpack the way NGDP gets discussed by many Keynesians (and non-Keynesians) as a RGDP+Inflation. Ex post, that’s certainly true. But that order and summary implies that real growth creates a level of NGDP and then “inflation” somehow “adds” on top. This is wrong, is it not? Instead, isn’t it basically the reverse? At a given level of NGDP, faster real growth will REDUCE inflation. We could, for example, have 0% growth in NGDP and 5% growth of Real GDP, pushing the so-called “price level” down 5% (to be a hydraulic quantity theorist for a moment).

I see this confusion manifest all the time as a belief that real growth is “inflationary” when it is, in fact, “deflationary” and quite healthily so. Again, I see this confusion as stemming from a failure to understand both the microeconomic process which gives rise to economic growth (productivity growth that increases output per input). I also see this failure as a byproduct of an economics discipline bewitched by Keynesian-style analysis.

This post should be linked to your Say’s law post where you rightly asserted that Macro students should only be taught Say’s law and monetary equilibrium / NGDP targeting… and flush “Keynesianism” down the toilet. Damn right.

In a better future, there will be no “Keynesians”. The debate will be between nominal income targeters, free bankers and “hard money” Rothbardians. Talk of countercyclical fiscal policy will be remembered as this horrendously silly dark age we thankfully escaped. One can dream.”

http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=20017#comment-234095

Pedro

15 Mar 13 at 3:32 pm
Romney did not run a good campaign. He ran a small campaign rather than a larger ideological campaign.

The greatest single issue that for any GOP nominee but Romney would have been a winner was the country’s revulsion with the nature of Obummercare and how it was introduced.

Because he ran a small jobs campaign coupled with effective negative Obummer ads 4 million Republicans did not vote.

Romney was the candidate Obummer always wanted to face.

Twits in the US like Fisky, Oco and Kates here helped Obummer.

It was an election that an effective candidate should have won easily.

It’s a disaster for the free world that the Stupid Party did what Republicans are famous for – shooting themselves in the foot with the Evil Party dems/msm complex guiding the direction of the shotgun as usual.

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 3:34 pm
Latest Media Watch Dog

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 4:05 pm
Gillard has booted Nicola Roxon from her Twitter photo

Skuter

15 Mar 13 at 4:16 pm
from Skuter’s link:

Bolt says –

When I pointed out this transparent and ridiculous spin, I received an angry text of complaint. But now I see Gillard has misplaced her child in her latest Twitter incarnation. How careless of her:

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 4:17 pm
Andrew
If you’re a Uni sutdent and you haven’t got this book then you’re a fool to yourself and a burden on the nation.

The Little Black School Book.

Will have a look at it, certainly looks interesting.

Andrew

15 Mar 13 at 4:24 pm
Rabz, I rarely read MWD, but today’s edition was hilariously entertaining, especially Mike Carlton’s insistence on making a dribbling fool of himself in Correspondence…

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 4:46 pm
Bolt’s a funny old stick.

Yesterday he was all, ‘let’s be respectful to the prime minister.’

Today it’s “Gillard abandons child.”

Dude, make up your mind.

C.L.

15 Mar 13 at 4:47 pm
Can’t you see Bolta’s brain ticking over, CL? He’s quite successfully, in his writing and on the wireless, neutralising the leftist squeal that he is a “shock jock” and that (their buzzword) he’s “unfair”. So he’s going out of his way — bending over backwards, in fact — to be “fair”. We’re dealing with children. He’s pitching his reverse dogwhistle at the emotional receptors of a child of around 12 — the correct strategy, IMO. Remember the left doesn’t think – it feels.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 5:03 pm
From MWD – an edumacator speaks (on their ALPBC):

And I think that it conjures a picture of teachers being information transmitters and really what they’ve got to be is learning facilitators, I mean, quality education. We heard some of the benefits of a good environment in a school from Pamela…Learning’s an activity. It’s not a passive, it’s active not passive. It’s got to be engaging. And I think when I was at school many, many years ago we had a lot of didactic teaching and many kids just couldn’t keep up with that because they were at the lower end of ability and other students were just bored and so it was really teachers presenting information to the middle of the class. Teaching is much more complex and challenging than that…

And that folks, is why those z-grade centres of ignorance, AKA public schools, are churning out record numbers of young people who are illiterate, innumerate and utterly ignorant of history and basic scientific principles.

Well done, you communist cock heads.

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 5:11 pm
Rabz. A msg from a mate who found himself in The Unholy City this morning:

At Canberra airport. What a waste of human endeavour. The number of pig tailed, suit wearing oxygen thieves.

Pickles

15 Mar 13 at 5:47 pm
Today Brian J O’Brien was interviewed by Richard Fidler on ABC radio ( Richard must have run our of gay novelists and green activists ), and the the AGW topic came up ( about 42min in the podcast ) with Brian revelling scientific funding only going to “true believers ” and “targets ” being not scientifically based. You could almost smell Fidlers pain as he squirmed. Very enjoyable.
Anyway, apparently O’Brien has written something for the IPA on the subject so I’m off to find it.

jumpnmcar

15 Mar 13 at 6:32 pm
No kidding… Our kids were friends when they were youngsters. This dude is a famous architect and had a odd relationship with woman.

He’s actually a world famous architect.

Just look.

http://www.mediabistro.com/unbeige/five-things-you-didnt-know-about-peter-marino_b22883

JC

15 Mar 13 at 6:54 pm
Tonight’s ABC News:
“When this government came to power, they promised to fix the trains.”
So, off they go on a binge to criticise a government that’s been making progress during its short tenure, while never mentioning the long tenure of the ineffective Labor Party beforehand.
Can you bear it?

blogstrop

15 Mar 13 at 7:18 pm
Jump, I used to enjoy quite a few of Fidler’s programs, but he lost me big time when he and the creepy journo who moved in next door to Palin hit it off like nothing on earth. Fidler was onboard with all the anti-Palin stuff, so stuff him.
If only he’d used his talent for Good!

blogstrop

15 Mar 13 at 7:27 pm
Well said, Fisky. Another winning slogan would be “ban women with children aged under 15 from the workforce.”

Ah, I see people are here employing the tactics of Leftists. Evil when its employed against Workchoices but good when employed against those opposed against abortion.

dover_beach

15 Mar 13 at 7:33 pm
opposed to…

dover_beach

15 Mar 13 at 7:34 pm
yeh blogstrop, now it’s ” all about to writers ” .
He researches his interviewees very well normally, O’Brien flew under his radar.

jumpnmcar

15 Mar 13 at 7:34 pm
all about the writers. ffs

jumpnmcar

15 Mar 13 at 7:35 pm
Who gets to do the GST carve up post ?
Hope he ( or she bruver) is a Queenslander

jumpnmcar

15 Mar 13 at 7:55 pm
The GST is just the latest and one of the brokest parts of the fiscal mess that is the Australian federation.

H B Bear

15 Mar 13 at 8:07 pm
In a better future, there will be no “Keynesians”. The debate will be between nominal income targeters, free bankers and “hard money” Rothbardians. Talk of countercyclical fiscal policy will be remembered as this horrendously silly dark age we thankfully escaped. One can dream.”

Keynes was a nominal income targeter. If your are going to criticise a theory at least try to understand it first.

sdfc

15 Mar 13 at 8:08 pm
The cluelessness of the right wing culture warriors as to the fact that wingnuts picked a culture fight, and lost, is particularly amusing. Then again, those like Fisky who despise where the wingnutty social conservatives have led the party are equally clueless to the fact that Romneynomics made no sense and was exposed completely in that brilliant speech by Bill Clinton. The party is full of buffoonery on economics driven by faith just as much as it is full of buffoons who reject evidence in climate science also rejected on a faith basis.

You lot, as the Tea Party outlet for Australia, show the Republicans are no where near self awareness yet.

Good luck next election.

steve from brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 8:13 pm
Fuck off cocksmoker, no one cares what you think.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

15 Mar 13 at 8:18 pm
Got an update from the Mole™.

17-27 June is when lardarse needs to be watching the fat laden back, so to speak.

No challenger wants to have ownership of the next budget dumped on them, so needless to say, it will be the goose’s last.

Then ‘leadership’ matters will start getting interesting.

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 8:25 pm
The cluelessness of the ~~right~~ leftwing culture warriors as to the fact that communist wingnuts picked a culture fight, and lost, is particularly amusing.

Having sucked on the goverment money tree for three years, the wingnuts of the extreme left are so fucking delusional some of them now think they are the mainstream. They can’t quite believe the working middle class hate their guts and are about to kick their arses into the next world.

They will NEVER make the mistake again of giving extremists the reins of powers. They will never again allow communists to trick them into looting THEIR money from the national treasury.

Tell you what, you gutless fucking troll. I’m actually going to track you down just for the fun of it.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 8:45 pm
Twits in the US like Fisky, Oco and Kates here helped Obummer.

I’m in the US?

Look we’ll never get to know how Santorum would’ve fared against Obama. You think he would have creamed it, but you’re a fool, so your analysis counts for little. Santorum would have lost more heavily than Romney. He would have walked – no, sprinted – into every ideological trap the Obama campaign laid for him. Obama and his Media Industrial Complex managed to paint Romney as a terrible woman-hating reactionary conservative primarily from the moronic utterances of two people who should have known better. Imagine what they could have done to an actual candidate who came out with that stuff time and time again?

I agree that Romney didn’t deal with Obamacare well. He shouldn’t have shied away from it. The very simple response to the “Obamacare was based on Romneycare” truism would have run something like ‘With bipartisan support, I introduced what was and what still is an overwhelmingly popular policy as governor of Massachusetts. I make no apology for serving my constituents in such a way. In contrast, you and your party rammed Obamacare down the throat of every American whether they liked it or not, and a large majority didn’t like it and that majority keeps on growing the more people find out about your healthcare reforms. I would never seek to change the lives of the majority of Americans so profoundly if I knew they were not satisfied with the change, which is why I will repeal Obamacare if elected President. And you should pledge the same, but of course you won’t.”

SoB, jam a crap in it. The fact that you think Bill Clinton’s speech was brilliant…well…’nuff said. Now tell your ‘I’m a conservative catholic’ story walking, idiot.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 8:45 pm
The fact that you think Bill Clinton’s speech was brilliant

People here thought Clint Eastwood was devastating.

Yeah, sure…

steve from brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 8:56 pm
Dick Morris got one thing right during the election. His assessment of Clinton – “at heart, he’s just a southern lawyer”.

If Eastwood were talking at the Dem convention to empty chair Romney, I have absolutely no doubt you’d have been creaming your shorts with praise at his original and incisive impromptu performance. Now piss off, you pathetic phoney.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 9:00 pm
Rabz, Shanahan (or was it Richo) actually explained that today. Rudd doesn’t want to own the budget and have to repudiate it later. As it happens, budget night (May 14) is exactly four calendar months until Julia’s election fantasy. Rudd doesn’t have to go until a month before the Slapper signs the writs. The he can hold the election any time before November 30. So the Mole’s targeting of the June sitting dates — Shane Wand’s Alamo after he and the Slapper finally run out of money and credibility — is spot on.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 9:00 pm
Tom, I proposed a theory that this whole media law thing was designed to fail in order to give the Slapper an opportunity to go to an election straight away, therefore locking out Rudd and also avoiding having to bring down the budget of doom.
Nothing that I have seen in the past couple of days has weakened the theory.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

15 Mar 13 at 9:06 pm
Gawd, keep shuffling those deckchairs, Jules.

Oh come on

15 Mar 13 at 9:07 pm
Its hard to remember at times that there is still six months to September.

Then again, at other times its hard to forget.

Driftforge

15 Mar 13 at 9:08 pm
The other part of the theory was that it would be the fuckwit independents who voted against the bill, thereby giving them cause to go to their electorates saying “Look, we have saved free speech. Give us another term.”

Huckleberry Chunkwot

15 Mar 13 at 9:09 pm
Tom – I hadn’t read Shanahan’s piece, but I did read Hypertension Man™ this morning and his piece struck me immediately as crap.

As the Mole™ stated: “Hypertension Man™ runs his own very unique agenda, as always…”

Even more juicy updates to come next week.

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 9:13 pm
If Eastwood were talking at the Dem convention to empty chair Romney

weak come back. I’ve never liked Eastwood, and think his work is way over-rated. His attempt at – well, God knows what it was, really – was an embarrassment except to one eyed fools.

steve from brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 9:13 pm
I’ve never liked Eastwood

Homer will be upset!

hammygar

15 Mar 13 at 9:15 pm
Steve, said it before and no doubt will say it again, get the fuck out of here- no one gives a flying fuck at the moon about anything you say or think.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

15 Mar 13 at 9:17 pm
Keynes was a nominal income targeter. If your are going to criticise a theory at least try to understand it first.

Of course he wasn’t, numbnuts. He advocated an inflationary monetary policy which income targeting isn’t.

JC

15 Mar 13 at 9:19 pm
Huck, it’s a sound theory. People in the caucus are saying Rudd has 50 votes, but that is like believing in flying saucers: believe when you see it, especially in the ALP caucus, where certain types of voting that require hands in the air can be your death warrant after the faction enforcers have been to visit. The Slapper is quite prepared to blow up the party since she is a narcissistic sociopath and the second-rate sisters (Emily’s List) can guarantee her 10 years of fees on the speaking circuit on top of her pension … unless she goes to gaol.

Looking forward to your updates, Rabzie.

Tom

15 Mar 13 at 9:30 pm
Of course he wasn’t, numbnuts. He advocated an inflationary monetary policy which income targeting isn’t.

Keynes was all about raising nominal income. Your ignorance is astounding. Tell us about how Fed policy is tight again.

sdfc

15 Mar 13 at 9:35 pm
Dover how are you love?

Tal

15 Mar 13 at 9:40 pm
Not bad, Tal, but the other half is half a world away.

dover_beach

15 Mar 13 at 9:43 pm
Oh I feel for you darl,when will you catch up ?
And and when are you getting married?

Tal

15 Mar 13 at 9:57 pm
WASHINGTON — House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Republicans are “at war” with their “own government” by trying to “shrink” its role in society.

Pelosi added that it is impossible for Congress to balance the federal budget in one decade, as House Republicans have proposed.

“We don’t want any more government than we need, but we respect the public role, in public-private partnerships, in putting a referee on the field, a cop on — a referee for — whether it’s to monitor clean air, clean water, food safety, a cop on the beat for the protection of our neighborhoods,” Pelosi said at her weekly press briefing on Thursday.

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 10:14 pm
Obama will press Israel to mollify furious Arabs

President Barack Obama is taking a multi-day tour of Arab flashpoints next week, where he will pressure Israeli Jews to appease politically energized Arabs in Egypt, Jordan and other countries.

“It is obviously a good thing that the people in the region are seeking to express themselves democratically,” declared Ben Rhodes, the president’s deputy national security adviser for strategic communications.

“Israel needs to take into account the changing dynamic and the need to reach out to public opinion across the region as it seeks to make progress on issues like Israeli-Palestinian peace and broader Arab-Israeli peace,’ he insisted

JamesK

15 Mar 13 at 10:18 pm
All the Arab nations want Israel and the Jews annihilated. There’s your effing Arab public opinion. Is Obama really that clueless or just an Arab puppet?

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 10:22 pm
President Barack Obama is taking a multi-day tour of Arab flashpoints next week, where he will pressure Israeli Jews* to appease politically energized Arabs

All the Arab nations want Israel and the Jews annihilated. There’s your effing Arab public opinion. Is Obama really that clueless or just an Arab puppet?

Here’s hoping Bibi tells the fucking narcissist wanker to fuck off, once and for all.

*There ain’t no other fucking sort, pal…

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 10:28 pm
“at war” with their “own government” by trying to “shrink” its role in society.

She thinks they are doing something right for once?

Driftforge

15 Mar 13 at 10:33 pm
Keynes was all about raising nominal income. Your ignorance is astounding. Tell us about how Fed policy is tight again.

No he wasn’t at all, SDFC. You misunderstand even your own belief system… Keynesianism.

Keynes advocated inflation as way of getting out of recession. It’s lewd and crude.

Actually the first person to advocate targeting income was Hayek.

Stop being silly.

JC

15 Mar 13 at 10:39 pm
Rabz, I suspect that sooner, rather than later, Bibi will indeed take preshizzle(Paco™) odumbugger’s advice and ‘appease the politically energised arabs.’

With a salvo of these.

They probably use a ~150kt can of instant sunshine, and Jericho III seems to have a bus, so maybe 3 MIRV at ~80kt each. (?? no-one really knows)

You can do a lot of aaah, ‘appeasing’ with enough cans of instant sunshine.

Mk50 of Brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 10:40 pm
What is this ‘targeting income’?

Driftforge

15 Mar 13 at 10:41 pm
What is this ‘targeting income’?

In modern parlance it targeting NGDP

JC

15 Mar 13 at 10:44 pm
Instant sunshine, one can of, applied.

Mk50 of Brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 11:15 pm
“Instant Sunshine?” What are you referring too?

Atomic bomb.

boy on a bike

15 Mar 13 at 11:15 pm
Yah.

I am willing to bet that even a maniacal mahdiviat like Ahmadinejad will be a very, very well behaved little vegemite after he’s been vapourised….

And you can burrow into and destroy the Iranian nuclear weapon facilities with sequential groundbursts.

Mk50 of Brisbane

15 Mar 13 at 11:18 pm
So.. some sort of GDP corrected for inflation? How is it targeted?

Driftforge

15 Mar 13 at 11:21 pm
What other metric would you suggest, N?

JC

15 Mar 13 at 11:33 pm
“Instant sunshine, one can of, applied.”
Had one that looked like that back in my teens.
President Military Innoculation (Army Man Jab) just needs one of these

WhaleHunt Fun

15 Mar 13 at 11:37 pm
Guys, Face book has shut down my husbands page (which he uses to keep in photo contact with the grand kids) because some ALP wank said he was fake or someone was impersonating him. Just becasue John was flogging this guy over something he said about Alexander Downer.

Any way we have uploaded the photo id four times (because we live outside footprint for sms text) and another time he uploaded a valuation report by mistake (he clicked the wrong file) but three days later and they have not responded. To cut a long story short, is there any other way to contact Facebook? Does anyone have Mark’s phone number? It is like he has been evaporated.

Helen Armstrong

15 Mar 13 at 11:53 pm
Well for starters we have to recognise that we don’t want to be so simpleminded as to imagine we ought to fixate on a single metric.

Okay, so you want to give the monetary authority to basically do whatever it wants by allowing broad latitude to a group of people (economists) you don’t trust as suggested further down the comment. That’ll work

Investors use, or used to use, a number of ratios and formulas in their analysis. Whereas the economists, in acts of great anal retentiveness, seem to want to fixate on one.

Different game.

You want to stabilise aggregate demand. Well GDP is a net demand figure. Yet we see people all the time equating GDP with aggregate demand.

It’s a fairly decent marker and shows decent correlation.

We see GDP used in formulas to calculate productivity. Yet why would we use this one metric in productivity?

But we don’t. Productivity, as far as I know is worked out from a survey both in australia and the US.

Its more a figure of consumption rather then production.

Okay.

We have to at least know what we are doing. When we get these so-called high-productivity low employment recoveries,

There’s nothing new in that. That’s how recoveries always occur.

the economists make these ignorant calls merely on the basis of being too stupid to figure out that they are anomaly created by their use of GDP in this way.

Nonsense.

GDP has a pretty decent correlation to swings in income, so it’s a good marker.

JC

15 Mar 13 at 11:54 pm
Burning kids aye? Would that be from the rockets they shoot at themselves like the other day? Too far back from the front line, the manly chappies and the rockets just dont make the distance.

Helen Armstrong

15 Mar 13 at 11:55 pm
Graeme, stop your nonsense and go to bed.

Gab

15 Mar 13 at 11:56 pm
Is that Birdie? I would never….

JC

15 Mar 13 at 11:57 pm
So it is the f*cking avian!

Who’da thunk it?

Rabz

15 Mar 13 at 11:59 pm
“I keep hoping that the preshizzle (Paco™) will extend US nuclear protection to Israel”

What do you mean?

Jarrah

16 Mar 13 at 12:01 am
So.. its a balancing act trying to keep GDP growth and monetary growth aligned.

Quite randomly I just found a post on the topic over at Mendicus Moldbug. I wasn’t actually going looking, just following a link for something else.

Driftforge

16 Mar 13 at 12:07 am
jarrah.

It might just have worked.

If the US had said even as recently as three years ago that ‘any nuclear attack on Israel will result in the complete annihilation of the attacking country by a full, two-salvo US retaliatory nuclear attack’.

in other words, formally bringing Israel under the US nuclear umbrella.

But it’s too late now. No-one out there believes a word Odumbugger says, or that he’ll keep his word to anyone on anything.

The big smash is probably inevitable now. There is simply nothing to stop it side from two faint possibilities too speculative to discuss.

Mk50 of Brisbane

16 Mar 13 at 12:10 am
Looks like that spavined, frog-buggering cretin Bird has been mixing too much LSD with his crystal meth.

He really is rolling on the floor, foaming at all orifices, isn’t he?

Bird, you were Joe Vialls gay lover, weren’t you?

Mk50 of Brisbane

16 Mar 13 at 12:12 am
Forget about Bird, what about Captain’s facebook?

Helen Armstrong

16 Mar 13 at 12:14 am
Nuance is not really ur style Graeme

JamesK

16 Mar 13 at 12:15 am
JC

Keynes advocated inflation as way of getting out of recession. It’s lewd and crude.

So raising nominal income in a depressed economy is purely inflationary. Is that your argument?

sdfc

16 Mar 13 at 12:18 am
Anyhow, off to bed.

Please be as nasty as you can be to Bird. Such a donkey’s catamite truly deserves it.

Mk50 of Brisbane

16 Mar 13 at 12:18 am
Im off to bed too. Bugger Tweety.

Helen Armstrong

16 Mar 13 at 12:20 am
Fuck off Graeme.

sdfc

16 Mar 13 at 12:21 am
So raising nominal income in a depressed economy is purely inflationary. Is that your argument?

It’s the way he goes about it that makes it crude. That’s why I don;t think the Japanese experiment will succeed. They have imposed an inflation target rather than a NGDP target. It’s crude Keynesian.

JC

16 Mar 13 at 12:26 am
Bird. Fuck you are a retard.

Tiny Dancer

16 Mar 13 at 12:31 am
Birdie, call this number. Now!

GP After Hours

6 Marcel Crescent
Blacktown
NSW 2148
ph: 02 8883 2224

JC

16 Mar 13 at 12:34 am
Bird

Your rancid views are now getting to the stage where you really do need serious help and I’m not saying this to annoy you. Go get help.

JC

16 Mar 13 at 12:42 am
Btw, Bird, you used to have a certain cache around here as an interesting and proactive writer, lover of trannies and totalitarian head kicker. Now you’re just a stupid c-nut.

Go chuck sand up your arse.

Infidel Tiger

16 Mar 13 at 12:43 am
Tell us how supply problems put downward pressure on prices JC.

sdfc

16 Mar 13 at 12:43 am
The nutter bird has overtaken the interesting bird.

sdfc

16 Mar 13 at 12:44 am
Shut up SDFC and focus on Bird.

I’ll get back to answering all your stupid questions as soon as he’s back in the cage.

JC

16 Mar 13 at 12:45 am
The nutter bird has overtaken the interesting bird.

Yea bird… you at least used to be half way interesting. Now you’ve become a rabid lunatic.

JC

16 Mar 13 at 12:46 am
Sinclair will clean him up. He’s become a waste of time.

sdfc

16 Mar 13 at 12:46 am
debastating = devastating.

JamesK

16 Mar 13 at 9:28 am
Gosh, the Cat’s been feral lately!

Bloody Abbott!

Eddystone

16 Mar 13 at 9:30 am
So has Dalin revised his opinion or is he still wrong?

JamesK

16 Mar 13 at 10:41 am
This is really good. Found on bolts blog.. About the hypocrisy of the gleaming cue ball, Clive happy Hamilton.

Former Greens candidate Professor Clive Hamilton, now a member of the Climate Change Authority, attacks the federal government’s sinister attempt to stifle our free speech:

A vibrant democracy must embrace variety of opinion and encourage active engagement of institutions that are comprised of and are accountable to the people themselves. Without that engagement and participation of citizens democracy is dead. Around the world people are struggling to free themselves from authoritarian rule and develop democratic systems of government that rest on the authority of the people themselves. In Australia our own fear and complacency are allowing these same institutions to be ground down.

…When democratic institutions are eroded, authoritarianism is not far behind. In light of this, it is time to reassert the role of dissent and to praise the contribution to democracy made by those who speak out, engage in debate and criticize the powerful, no matter how uncomfortable it may make the government of the day. Dissenters should not be silenced or pilloried; as defenders of Australian democracy they deserve our gratitude.

One small problem. That excerpt from Hamilton’s Silencing Dissent attacked non-existent threats to free speech from the Howard Government.

Tony Thomas dares Hamilton to make the same speech today:

Clive Hamilton is a stout defender of the media and of political dissent. Any moment now, he will spring to the defence of press freedom against Senator Conroy’s proposed media licensing regime.

Hey, I just figured it out… Happy Hamilton is now a climate authoritarian.

Fme.

JC

16 Mar 13 at 10:46 am
Doomlord deathly instrument of the nuanced solution

JamesK

16 Mar 13 at 11:08 am
I think you’ll notice that this thread is a bit shorter than it was – the latest Bird infestation has been cleared away.

Sinclair Davidson

16 Mar 13 at 11:09 am
Excellent.

Mk50 of Brisbane

16 Mar 13 at 11:15 am

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